[5:28] Okay. All right. Well welcome [5:29] everyone and thank you for [5:30] joining us for today's rainy [5:32] FEBRUARY 19th sb board meeting. [5:33] For the record, my name is [5:35] David Silva and I'm the vice [5:36] chair on the sb Kag board. [5:38] MADAM Clerk, could you please [5:40] facilitate roll call? Director [5:44] Perotti here. Director Patino [5:46] here. Director Mosby here. [5:50] Director. Lee here. Director. [5:52] Lavagnino here. Director. [5:53] Julian here. Director. Hartman [5:56] here. Director of Friedman here. [6:00] Director. Clerk. Here. Director. [6:03] Capps here. Vice chair Silva [6:04] here. And Chair Nelson is [6:07] absent. Great. Didn't hear my [6:09] name. Oh, director Brown, my [6:12] apologies. And Director Brown's [6:14] here. If we could please stand [6:18] for the Pledge of Allegiance. [6:20] Ready again? I pledge [6:22] allegiance to the flag of the [6:24] United States of America. And [6:26] to the Republic for which it [6:29] stands. One nation under GOD, [6:31] indivisible, with liberty and [6:37] justice for all. All right, [6:39] next up, we'll move into public [6:40] comment for items not on [6:41] today's agenda. Speakers have [6:43] up to three minutes each with a [6:44] total of 15 minutes allotted [6:45] for public comment. Is there [6:47] any public comment today? If [6:48] there are any members of the [6:50] public on the zoom webinar who [6:51] wish to speak, would you please [6:53] use the Raise Hand feature and [6:55] I will call upon you? I do not [6:57] have any paper request to speak [6:59] forms, and there are no [7:01] attendees on zoom who wish to [7:03] speak at this time. Splendid. [7:04] Moving along, we'll move on to [7:12] approval of consent calendar. [7:14] Oh. I'm sorry. First time [7:16] caller, longtime listener. So [7:17] is there any announcements for [7:19] the consent calendar at this [7:20] time? There are no [7:22] announcements for the consent [7:23] calendar. And did we receive [7:24] any public comment on any items [7:27] on the consent calendar? We do [7:29] have one hand raised on zoom, [7:30] and if there are any other [7:32] attendees on the zoom webinar [7:33] who wish to speak, would you [7:35] please use the Raise Hand [7:36] feature for the consent [7:37] calendar and we will call upon [7:41] you. Our first speaker is Barry [7:44] Remus. If you can, please [7:47] unmute yourself. Thank you. [7:49] Good morning, Chair Silva and [7:51] board members. My name is Barry [7:53] Remus and I'm representing Move [7:56] Santa Barbara County and we [7:57] advocate and educate and [8:00] encourage people who walk, bike [8:01] and take public transit. Just [8:03] want to to make a quick [8:05] statement in support of item [8:07] consent. Item number four f as [8:11] in not a freeway. We would like [8:14] to voice our support for the [8:16] appropriation of the additional. [8:19] The $100,000 in measure a [8:22] funding for bike, ped and Safe [8:23] Routes to school project for [8:26] the Buellton highway 246 [8:27] improvements project for bike [8:30] and pedestrian. This would be a [8:32] reduction in lane width and [8:34] addition of bike lanes with [8:36] buffers and pedestrian safety [8:38] amenities, and this would bring [8:40] improved safety to the area, [8:42] which, as we know along highway [8:45] 246, is a fast moving corridor [8:47] by avenue of the flags. And [8:49] this would bring not only [8:51] increased public safety for [8:53] improvements for pedestrians, [8:55] bicyclists and Ada access, but [8:57] also economic vitality in [8:59] making them a more welcoming [9:01] environment that calms traffic [9:03] and improves the area immensely. [9:06] So we would certainly want to [9:08] endorse the support of and [9:11] support the appropriation and [9:13] encourage your vote in support [9:15] of the consent item. Thank you [9:18] very much. Thank you very much. [9:20] MR. Remus. Is there any other [9:21] public comment at this time? [9:22] Are there any other members of [9:24] the public on the zoom webinar [9:25] who wish to speak? Would you [9:27] please use the raise Hand [9:28] feature and I will call upon [9:31] you. And there are no responses. [9:33] Thank you. Would any any [9:34] directors like to pull an item [9:38] at this time? All right. If not, [9:40] then I would look for a motion. [9:42] Second, Hartman moves approval [9:46] of the consent agenda. Second. [9:47] Splendid. We have a roll call. [9:51] Vote director. Perotti. Hi. [9:54] Director Patino. Director Mosby, [9:57] I, director. Lee. Hi. Director. [9:59] Lavagnino. Hi. Director. [10:01] Jillian. Director. Hartman. I [10:04] director. Friedman. I director. [10:09] Brown. Director. Clark. Hi. I [10:11] director Clark. I believe I [10:15] heard an I MR. Caps I and vice [10:17] chair Silva I and chair Nelson [10:20] is absent. Great. Now moving on [10:21] to item five a MADAM Clerk, [10:23] will you please read item five [10:25] a into the record. Item five a [10:26] expanded intercity passenger [10:28] rail service recommended. [10:30] Action one approve and [10:30] authorize the Executive [10:32] Director to execute a [10:33] cooperative funding agreement [10:34] with the Los Angeles, San Diego, [10:38] San Luis Obispo Rail Corridor [10:39] Agency, Lausanne with the [10:41] Ventura County Transportation [10:43] Commission ctc to provide [10:44] expanded intercity passenger [10:46] rail service to be negotiated, [10:47] comparable to the attached for [10:51] a 2,000,219 $240 with sb k [10:53] contributing an amount not to [10:56] exceed 1,109,620. Similar to [10:58] the attached upon approval by [11:00] legal counsel and two approving [11:01] authorized Executive Director [11:04] to take actions required to [11:05] implement the agreement per [11:10] article six. Great. And it [11:11] looks like we have Whitney Rush [11:13] to give the presentation. Yes. [11:16] Good morning. Directors. In [11:18] 2008, voters approved a measure [11:20] a with a simple promise, a lane [11:23] and a train. And today we are [11:25] closer than we have been in [11:26] years on finally delivering [11:28] that train. My name is Whitney [11:30] Rush. I'm a senior [11:31] transportation planner in the [11:33] Multimodal Programs division, [11:34] and today I'm excited to [11:36] present the next chapter in a [11:38] story that has had a couple [11:40] route adjustments, but one that [11:41] we are genuinely excited to [11:44] bring to you today about [11:45] expanded intercity passenger [11:48] rail service. This presentation [11:50] very closely mirrors what [11:51] Director of Multimodal Programs [11:53] Erin Bonfiglio presented to the [11:54] South Coast subregional last [11:56] week. The subregional did [11:58] approve both staff [11:59] recommendations, and we're [12:00] excited today to bring this [12:03] item to the full board. Today's [12:04] presentation will give a [12:05] background on the project. [12:06] We'll give a status update with [12:09] key benefits and also seek your [12:11] authorization for sb Executive [12:13] Director to move into a [12:14] cooperative agreement for this [12:22] expanded intercity rail service. [12:27] Q Lauren. Okay, fantastic. No [12:28] better place to begin than at [12:30] the beginning with measure a, [12:33] it was passed in 2008 by voters [12:36] with the goal of bringing [12:39] increased rail service to the [12:42] corridor. To reach that end, we [12:44] would need a coordinated effort [12:46] to expand service and [12:48] operational plan cooperative [12:49] agreements and eventually a [12:52] pilot demonstration. In 2018, [12:55] sb did launch a morning train [12:57] and as you MAY recall in 2020, [12:59] that train was canceled due to [13:02] Covid and never resumed. Nearly [13:04] three years ago, sb began the [13:06] careful work to retrace these [13:09] steps to provide expanded [13:11] service and restore that [13:15] service to our community. [13:19] Lauren. So, as a reminder, [13:21] measure a is a dedicated South [13:23] Coast subregional project. When [13:24] it was passed, it set aside [13:27] dedicated funding of $25 [13:29] million over 30 years. This [13:31] money could be used on things [13:33] like reducing congestion, [13:34] alternative to driving on [13:36] highway 101, capital and [13:38] operating costs and promotions, [13:39] marketing and connecting [13:41] service to make this a full [13:43] mobility option for our [13:49] commuters. Next, sb, cag [13:51] recognizes that this is only [13:53] possible through sustained and [13:54] strong partnerships, in [13:56] particular with Vctc, the [13:57] Ventura County Transportation [14:00] Commission, and the Los Angeles, [14:02] San Diego San Luis Obispo Rail [14:04] Corridor Agency that manages [14:07] the Pacific Surfliner. Vctc in [14:09] particular, has been a valued [14:10] partner, and they have agreed [14:13] to jointly fund this new pilot [14:16] project. 50 over 50. Many [14:17] pieces had to fall into place [14:20] to make this moment possible, [14:21] and over the past six months, [14:23] many of them have made this [14:25] option most feasible and better [14:28] than all previous iterations. [14:30] One was the state equipment [14:31] redeployment, one of the [14:33] biggest barriers in prior [14:35] attempts to get the service [14:36] going was that there just [14:39] wasn't existing train equipment. [14:41] Last year, the state redeployed [14:43] train equipment from northern [14:45] California to the corridor, and [14:47] now Lausanne has the capacity [14:48] to add this additional round [14:51] trip service. Additionally, [14:53] intercity ticket sales from Los [14:54] Angeles clear through to San [14:56] Luis Obispo will help offset [14:59] the cost of this train. Also, [15:01] by working directly with [15:03] Lausanne, we have Union Pacific [15:04] access. In previous attempts of [15:06] this service that have been a [15:07] large barrier, and so by [15:08] working directly with Lausanne, [15:10] we have that Union Pacific [15:12] access. And probably one of the [15:14] biggest benefits is that [15:17] significantly reduces sb kags [15:19] insurance risk by leveraging [15:21] Amtrak's national agreements. [15:24] And finally, the the goals set [15:26] out by Lausanne are fulfilling [15:28] a lot of the state rail plan [15:30] goals for the region. So we're [15:32] excited that a lot of pieces [15:34] fell into place in the past six [15:35] months to make this option not [15:37] only feasible, but the best [15:39] option possible. So let's get [15:40] into the details and look at [15:42] this proposed schedule for the [15:44] new train. As I mentioned, it [15:45] will start at Los Angeles Union [15:50] Station at 5:13 A.M. Arrive at [15:53] Moorpark at 6:31 A.M. And begin [15:55] its Ventura County pickups. [16:00] Camarillo 643, Oxnard, 657 and [16:01] Ventura at the very easy to [16:04] remember time of 711. [16:06] Carpinteria 737 and arrive into [16:07] Santa Barbara just before 8 [16:10] A.M. And Goleta at 811. The [16:11] train will then continue on to [16:13] San Luis Obispo, where it will [16:15] turn around and provide a new [16:18] midday southbound service. This [16:20] service can work for tourists, [16:22] those commuters with flexible [16:23] schedules, or anyone who wants [16:25] to get to downtown Los Angeles [16:28] in time for dinner. However, sb [16:30] Commute Focus will be on the [16:31] currently existing southbound [16:34] train 790, highlighted a little [16:36] bit in red there on the right [16:37] side. That train currently [16:40] departs Goleta at 4:25 P.M. [16:43] Santa Barbara at 440, and gets [16:45] passengers into Ventura at 5:26 [16:51] P.M. Next slide Lauren. And to [16:54] make this schedule a reality, [16:57] we're asking you to approve sb [16:58] Executive Director to enter [17:00] into a cooperative agreement [17:03] with Vctc and Lausanne. Some [17:04] key elements of that [17:07] cooperative agreement include a [17:10] fixed fee agreement of about [17:11] $2.2 million, again split [17:14] evenly between sb and Vctc, so [17:17] we would be in at $1.1 million. [17:19] It's a 12 month service pilot, [17:22] but it will run 365 days a year. [17:23] This is not a Monday through [17:24] Friday train. This does not [17:26] take off for holidays. It will [17:29] run 365 days a year. The [17:30] estimated fare revenues are [17:33] expected to be around $2.3 [17:35] million, and commuter tickets [17:36] and passes will be available, [17:38] including a subsidized ten ride [17:41] pass and monthly pass. We're [17:43] excited that this cooperative [17:45] agreement has already been [17:47] approved by the Ventura County [17:48] Transportation Commission at [17:49] their meeting on FEBRUARY 6th, [17:51] and was just approved by the [17:54] board two days ago on February [17:55] 17th. So with this board's [17:57] approval, it is the last and [17:59] truly monumental step to make [18:01] this schedule a reality. And [18:02] with that, we can look to [18:03] launch this service in late [18:08] APRIL or early MAY. Lloyd. And [18:09] so, just as a reminder for both [18:11] of you to for all of you today, [18:12] the two staff recommendations [18:14] in front of you are to approve [18:15] and authorize the Executive [18:17] Director to execute a [18:19] cooperative funding agreement [18:21] with Lausanne and Vctc, and [18:22] then to approve and authorize [18:24] the Executive Director to take [18:26] actions required to implement [18:28] the agreement. With that, I [18:30] thank you for your time, and [18:32] I'm available for any questions. [18:33] Thank you very much. Are there [18:35] any questions for staff at this [18:39] time? I do or okay. Director [18:41] Lee we'll go. We'll go remote [18:42] first. Let's go for that down [18:43] in Santa Barbara. So, director [18:46] Lee, thank you. Thank you. [18:48] Chair. Vice chair Silva. So the [18:51] question is the Ortega railing [18:53] on that project? Does it have [18:54] any effect on this commuter [18:56] rail approval. Well, it delay [19:00] it or affected in any way as I [19:01] understand it, no. The Ortega [19:03] siding project will not have [19:06] any effect on this train coming [19:07] online and will not impact the [19:09] schedule as proposed to us by [19:11] Lausanne. Got it. That's my [19:13] question. Thank you, director [19:16] Lee. Any further questions down [19:19] in Santa Barbara? Okay. We'll [19:21] bring it back here to Santa [19:22] Maria. Director Patino. Yes. [19:24] Could you go back to the slide [19:35] on the schedule? Yes. Of course. [19:36] Okay. I don't see Guadalupe in [19:38] there. It's not going to stop [19:40] in Guadalupe. It is. This [19:42] doesn't include. There's a lot [19:43] of stops between Los Angeles [19:44] Union Station Moorpark and a [19:46] lot of stops between Goleta and [19:49] San Luis Obispo. We can provide [19:50] directors with the full [19:51] schedule, but yes, it will stop [19:53] in Guadalupe serve, because I [19:55] don't think that. I don't think [19:56] the people in Santa Maria even [19:58] know that they can drive out to [20:00] Guadalupe to get on the train. [20:02] Yeah. In fact, I was talking to [20:03] some people yesterday about it [20:04] because I was at Vandenberg and [20:07] say, when you drive the take [20:08] the train, say Guadalupe to [20:09] Santa Barbara, it's just the [20:11] beautiful ocean view that you [20:12] don't get any other way other [20:14] than the train. It is so [20:15] beautiful. And yes, we can [20:16] definitely look into increasing [20:17] our efforts, especially the [20:18] Santa Maria. Again, this is [20:20] really focused on connecting [20:21] Ventura County and Santa [20:22] Barbara County, but more people [20:23] on the train throughout the [20:28] corridor is our goal. Thank you. [20:30] Any other questions here? I had [20:32] a couple. I just wanted to know. [20:34] I was just curious. I know this [20:35] is a 12 month service pilot [20:36] program that we're looking at, [20:38] and that this is being split [20:41] between the vc, vc and sb. Cag, [20:43] get all my acronyms correctly. [20:44] Will there be a chance after [20:46] that 12 months to know how many? [20:48] You know, I think about like [20:49] there's other agencies that are [20:50] benefiting from this rail as [20:52] well. So I think it's going [20:53] into the San Luis Obispo County [20:55] and it's going down to la. Will [20:56] we be able to know how many [20:58] like how those agencies are [20:59] also participating in this or [21:00] utilizing this? Because I would [21:02] think that there might be a [21:03] discussion about funds sharing [21:04] after the 12 months, seeing how [21:06] it might be more agencies who [21:07] MAY want to participate in the [21:09] cost sharing of this, if those [21:10] agencies are also benefiting [21:11] from this. Yes, of course, the [21:13] benefits will extend throughout [21:14] the corridor. I believe you MAY [21:15] be able to answer. I can answer [21:17] that. I was looking to see if [21:19] you wanted me to. Well, the [21:20] goal is to have it state funded [21:22] from after this pilot project, [21:23] which is it was in the [21:24] statewide rail plan to have [21:26] this route start, but we're [21:28] starting it a year early. So [21:30] we're providing subsidy at this [21:32] time to get it started. But [21:33] ultimately, it's hoped that it [21:35] will be covered by the [21:37] statewide budget for rail from [21:39] San Luis Obispo all the way to [21:40] San Diego. So that's the goal. [21:43] But you're right. If that is [21:44] not achieved, then we'll be [21:46] looking at other agencies, [21:47] possibly participating. If we [21:49] wanted to continue with this [21:51] service at at subsidizing it [21:52] with our local dollars. But we [21:53] would have to answer that [21:56] question probably six months [21:57] before the end of the pilot [22:01] project. So yes. Thank you. [22:03] Director Brown. In that same in [22:06] that same fashion, do you have [22:09] any partnerships established or [22:12] proposed with employers that [22:15] would benefit from this? Yes. [22:16] I'm very excited to talk about [22:18] those opportunities. We [22:19] recognize that the train won't [22:21] be a success without that last [22:23] first mile, last mile options. [22:24] So the things that we're [22:25] looking to complement the [22:27] service are free shuttles to [22:28] and from the train station to [22:31] employer sites, bicycle lockers [22:33] at Carpinteria, Santa Barbara [22:36] and Goleta, and bicycle trials, [22:37] the bike share system in [22:39] downtown Santa Barbara. And [22:40] then as part of getting the [22:42] word out about the train and [22:43] all these complimentary [22:44] programs, we're looking to host [22:46] an employer forum and really [22:47] engage and really lean on those [22:48] strong relationships that we [22:50] have with employers throughout [22:52] the South Coast. So, yes, [22:54] working with large employers is [22:56] one of our largest outreach [23:00] efforts. Yeah, it looks like we [23:01] have a few more questions [23:04] possibly. Or. Oh, okay. Perfect. [23:07] Vice chair. Vice chair. Silver. [23:10] Yes. Director. Caps. I just [23:11] wanted to build on Director [23:12] Brown's question because that [23:14] that was my nature of questions [23:17] to just again, I applaud the [23:19] pivot from the original or the [23:21] first plan to this plan. And I [23:22] know that the original plan had [23:23] a lot of outreach with [23:25] employers, and I just am [23:28] wanting to hear a bit more on [23:30] the assurances with the, the [23:32] the change in sort of this plan [23:35] b of those communications. It [23:36] sounds like they're happening. [23:37] I just want to hear that [23:39] fleshed out a bit more to make [23:40] sure that passengers get on [23:44] these trains. Yes, 100%. It is [23:45] the same outreach. If not, it's [23:48] been expanded. There is some [23:50] simplicity in this being a low [23:51] San Amtrak Pacific Surfliner [23:53] train. Before we are looking at [23:55] Metrolink in the morning, [23:56] Amtrak in the afternoon. How do [23:58] we message this to commuters? [24:00] This is a lot more digestible [24:01] for commuters, and we're [24:03] planning a large employer forum [24:05] where we will invite all the [24:06] employers that we have these [24:08] relationships with to really [24:10] highlight the benefits of [24:11] making this a possibility for [24:14] their employees. We have [24:15] numerous email lists that we [24:17] will lean on. We're also [24:21] developing a program to give [24:25] $50 train ride passes to [24:26] employees. And then as they use [24:27] them, they have the potential [24:30] to earn additional ones. So yes, [24:31] we are working with employers [24:33] throughout the South Coast. [24:34] We're planning a lot of [24:36] outreach events, and I'll let [24:38] Lauren speak to any others that [24:39] we're planning on. When you [24:41] talk about the ctc effort, [24:42] which we didn't have in the [24:44] last. Yeah. Go ahead. Yes. [24:47] We're excited with ctc being [24:48] such a valuable partner and [24:50] being even more engaged this [24:51] time around. We're looking at a [24:53] lot of events in Ventura County. [24:55] In previous years, a lot of our [24:56] efforts focused on Santa [24:57] Barbara. But of course the [24:58] commuters live in Ventura and [25:00] they work here. And so Ventura [25:01] County is planning on [25:03] presenting at all their boards, [25:04] all their commissions, getting [25:05] out in the farmers markets, [25:07] meeting with all their [25:09] employers so that we're not [25:10] just targeting the employers [25:11] here in Santa Barbara and then [25:13] relying on them to pass the [25:14] word on. We're really working [25:17] with ctc to reach the people in [25:18] Ventura County that can most [25:22] benefit from this train. Yes, [25:24] please. Lauren, I just wanted [25:26] to add just one more thing is [25:27] that it's a coordinated [25:29] marketing and outreach effort. [25:31] So it's Lausanne, sb, cg, and [25:33] ctc all working together to [25:35] work on shared resources both [25:37] with our collateral materials [25:40] as well as our outreach. And so [25:42] those are regular meetings that [25:44] we are having and instituting. [25:46] And yes, it is a similar [25:48] marketing effort that we had [25:49] planned with the previous [25:51] service that we're just kind of [25:53] working with this better and [25:56] more commuter friendly [26:00] opportunity. Director Hartman, [26:01] last time we did this, that is [26:03] when we had first inaugurated [26:05] the train. One of the key [26:07] concerns was reliability. Would [26:09] it be on time? And we worked [26:11] hard to get a bus to pick up [26:13] the slack when the train wasn't [26:15] there. What do we anticipate [26:17] this go around? Yes, we [26:20] recognize that that was one of [26:21] the largest barriers to the [26:23] train that launched in 2018 was [26:25] its reliability with this [26:26] service. Yes, it does still [26:28] begin in Los Angeles Union [26:29] Station. But not only is this [26:31] service an hour later coming in [26:34] the train surrounding it on the [26:35] corridor have also adjusted. [26:38] Before, there was a lot of [26:39] negotiations that had to happen [26:41] with freight service, but Union [26:42] Pacific has adjusted their [26:44] freight schedules. All the host [26:46] schedules on the corridor have [26:47] adjusted so that we are [26:48] anticipating significantly [26:50] higher reliability. With this [26:51] morning train coming in the [26:53] spring. So that will be [26:55] something I think key to [26:58] communicate. Yes. And that will [27:01] be part of one of our hopeful [27:02] audiences, of course, are those [27:03] that really love the 2018 train [27:05] but stopped because of [27:06] reliability. And we know that [27:07] question will come up and we [27:09] have the assurances from all [27:10] the host railroads that this [27:12] one will be significantly more [27:15] reliable. Right before going to [27:17] public comment, I want to check [27:18] and make sure there's no one [27:20] Santa Barbara with any further [27:22] questions. Okay. Do we have any [27:23] public comment on this item? [27:24] There are any members of the [27:26] public on the zoom webinar who [27:28] wish to speak. Would you please [27:29] use the raise Hand feature and [27:33] I will call upon you? We did [27:35] not receive any public comment [27:37] for this item in advance, and [27:38] there are no attendees on zoom [27:40] who wish to speak. All right. [27:41] We'll bring it back to the [27:42] board for discussion and a [27:46] possible motion. Chair. Vice [27:49] chair Silva, this is pretty [27:51] high. When you're ready for the [27:54] motion, I. I'd be honored to to [27:56] make that motion since I sit on [27:58] the Lausanne board and I tried [28:02] to make that motion when the [28:03] whole board was present. And I [28:05] will tell you, they're all very [28:06] enthusiastic about this service, [28:08] and and I missed my chance. I [28:11] guess I was, too, to slow in [28:13] raising my hand. So. Well, then [28:15] we'll do a very slow, dramatic [28:16] pause so you can make the [28:18] motion at this time for you. [28:19] Director Paradiso, would you [28:20] like to make the motion? I [28:23] would thank you and Hartman [28:25] seconds. And I just want to say, [28:26] I thought that was a really [28:29] well done staff report. Yes. [28:30] Great. If we could have a roll [28:34] call. Vote director. Perotti, I [28:36] director Patino. I director [28:40] Mosby. Director. Lee I director [28:43] Lavagnino. Director. Julien. [28:45] Director. Hartman I director [28:49] Friedman. I director. Clark. I [28:52] director. Capps I director. [28:55] Brown. I vice chair. Silva I [28:57] and chair. Nelson. Absent [28:59] motion passes. Yes. Thank you [29:00] to the staff for that [29:01] presentation. And thank you to [29:02] Director Perotti for making the [29:03] motion and making sure that's [29:05] on the record for that. I look [29:06] forward to us all becoming [29:08] ambassadors for the train to [29:09] make sure that we get people on [29:11] to that. Moving on. We'll move [29:13] to item b now and our staff [29:14] presentation. Oh I'm sorry. [29:15] Read into the record item five [29:16] b please. Sustainable community [29:17] strategy planning process and [29:18] potential reform update [29:20] recommended action. Receive a [29:21] presentation on the planning [29:22] process for the Sustainable [29:24] Community Strategy and the [29:25] current efforts to reform the [29:27] associated law. All right. [29:28] Thank you very much, MR. Becker. [29:30] All right. Thank you, chair and [29:31] directors. I'm Mike Becker of [29:33] Staff. And this morning I'm [29:35] going to provide a presentation [29:37] on Senate Bill 375, which is [29:39] the Sustainable Communities and [29:40] Climate Protection Act and how [29:47] that impacts sb. In 2006, [29:49] Governor Schwarzenegger signed [29:51] Assembly Bill 32, the Global [29:53] Warming Solutions Act, and ab [29:56] 32 changed California and began [29:57] a coordinated effort to reduce [29:59] greenhouse gas emissions across [30:01] all sectors. Senate Bill 375, [30:05] or sb 375, followed the visible [30:08] or tangible part of sb 375 is [30:09] the Sustainable Community [30:11] Strategy, which is included [30:13] within each regional [30:14] transportation plan. Today, [30:16] I'll touch on why the law [30:17] matters, how it impacts our [30:19] region, and reform efforts that [30:23] are underway across the state. [30:25] So, onto why it matters. The [30:28] original intent of sb 375 was [30:29] good, though whether or not it [30:32] has achieved its objectives [30:34] remains to be seen. And this [30:35] matters to you for a variety of [30:37] reasons. When the law first [30:39] passed, there was no tie to [30:40] funding. That changed with [30:42] Senate Bill one, which now [30:43] requires a compliant, [30:44] sustainable community strategy [30:46] to be eligible for certain [30:48] funding programs. In addition, [30:50] there's ties between sb 375 and [30:56] Rina, sb 375 and Sequa. There [30:59] are good aspects of the [31:01] requirements related to sb 375, [31:03] including planning, land use [31:05] and transportation in tandem, [31:06] though this is good practice [31:12] with or without that law. I [31:14] mentioned that ab 32 became law [31:18] in 2006. Ab 32 focused on [31:19] reducing greenhouse gas [31:23] emissions across all sectors. [31:25] Sb 375 was passed in 2008, two [31:27] years later, with a focus on [31:29] light duty vehicles, so to [31:31] reduce greenhouse gas emissions [31:33] from light duty vehicles, which [31:35] I describe as the types of cars [31:37] or trucks that you or I would [31:40] drive. Therefore, sb 375 [31:43] implements one component or one [31:46] aspect of the much broader ab [31:50] 32. The California Air [31:53] Resources Board, by the powers [31:55] given to them by sb 375, sets [31:57] greenhouse gas emission [31:58] reduction targets for each [32:01] region in California. For sb kg, [32:04] our current target is 17% below [32:07] 2005 levels for target year [32:09] 2035, and that is on a per [32:12] capita basis. The target is [32:15] achieved or not through a [32:16] combination of laying out land [32:17] use development patterns, as [32:19] well as the transportation [32:20] projects and policies included [32:22] within the Regional [32:24] Transportation plan. The per [32:26] capita point is important to [32:29] highlight for two reasons [32:31] primarily, but number one, as a [32:33] per capita target, greenhouse [32:35] gas emissions in theory could [32:37] rise in aggregate and the law [32:40] still be satisfied. And number [32:43] two, the per capita aspect [32:44] enables us to tackle it or [32:46] address it from two different [32:48] angles. First, we have an [32:51] existing population that lives [32:52] in existing land use, [32:53] development patterns and so [32:55] forth that we can try to [32:57] influence their travel [32:59] behaviors to a more sustainable [33:01] manner. So that's one way to [33:02] address the law. The other is [33:04] to focus on the growing aspect [33:07] of the region. As we grow, we [33:08] can grow more sustainably so [33:10] that that new population has [33:12] less of a transportation impact [33:13] compared to the existing [33:17] population. The law requires us, [33:20] sb, cag to lay out a variety of [33:22] scenarios, and those are [33:23] combinations of land use [33:24] development patterns as well as [33:27] the transportation projects and [33:30] policies. We take that through [33:31] a public process. And [33:32] ultimately, this board selects [33:34] the scenario that is included [33:35] within the Sustainable [33:37] Community Strategy. And the [33:38] Regional Transportation plan is [33:40] built around. You can expect to [33:44] do that next in 2028. For our [33:50] 2029 plan. This is what a jobs [33:51] housing imbalance looks like on [33:53] a chart. A few long commutes [33:55] can outweigh almost all of the [33:59] short ones. The dark bars are [34:01] the share of commuters by the [34:03] distance buckets on the bottom. [34:05] So the far left is, you can see [34:07] less than a half mile commute. [34:09] And then the lighter bars are [34:12] the the resulting vehicle miles [34:16] from that population. The left [34:17] side of the chart shows we're [34:19] doing a great job in terms with [34:20] a lot of our population. They [34:22] have short commutes, MAY use [34:23] alternative modes of travel, [34:25] and have little transportation [34:27] impact. The right side shows [34:30] the imbalance. When we have a [34:31] portion of our workforce that [34:34] we need to import, or that have [34:36] very long commutes, it makes it [34:40] much more difficult to address [34:43] the requirements of sb 375. You [34:45] have the 5% associated with [34:48] that longest commuting cohort [34:49] is produces the same vehicle [34:52] miles as the 86% that's [34:53] included within all but the [34:55] last two bars. So just that [34:57] final bar equals 86% of the [35:04] commuting population. Through [35:06] our experience, we've developed [35:07] for sustainable community [35:09] strategies since the law came [35:10] into effect. And we found that [35:12] we cannot achieve the [35:15] requirements of sb 375 without [35:16] addressing the jobs housing [35:18] imbalance. The bars on the [35:20] right are there for a variety [35:21] of reasons, including the lack [35:23] and unaffordability of housing. [35:25] A friend of mine was a founder [35:26] of a tech company in Goleta, [35:28] and conversations with him, [35:30] I've learned that that company, [35:31] as well as other companies are [35:33] founded here, begin to grow [35:34] here, but then forced to grow [35:35] elsewhere, which then exports [35:39] the economic benefit. I do want [35:42] to transition to some of the [35:42] challenges that are related [35:46] with Senate Bill 375. They're [35:47] divided into four categories [35:50] land use, economics and [35:52] politics, population, jobs and [35:54] housing. And then finally, [36:00] recognizing that change is slow. [36:01] Where people live, work and [36:03] play creates demands on the [36:05] transportation system. So [36:06] therefore land use is central [36:08] to understanding travel [36:10] patterns. The image on this [36:12] slide shows Levittown, which is [36:14] among the first postwar suburbs [36:16] in the United States. And since [36:18] that was built, we've had about [36:19] 75 years of building in similar [36:22] manner. And the vast majority [36:23] of that housing stock still [36:25] exists. That type of growth is [36:28] not conducive to successful [36:30] transit services. It separates [36:32] all land uses, so every trip [36:34] requires a vehicle and so on. [36:35] But the point is, is we have a [36:37] built environment that produces [36:40] travel behaviors that are very [36:43] difficult to change. And I will [36:45] point out that sb 375 requires [36:47] us to lay out a land use [36:48] development pattern for the [36:50] region. However, sb 375 [36:52] explicitly gave us no land use [36:58] authority. When economic [36:59] development and housing [37:00] development do not keep pace [37:03] with one another, problems are [37:04] created in our region. That [37:06] problem is a jobs housing [37:07] imbalance. The point that I [37:09] want to make with this slide is [37:11] on the lower left, and this is [37:12] related to how I described. [37:13] There's two ways to addressing [37:15] it, either through changing [37:17] travel patterns or travel [37:20] behaviors, or by growing in a [37:22] more sustainable manner. Last [37:24] week at the subregional, we [37:26] presented the draft Regional [37:28] Growth forecast and region wide [37:30] or county wide. We expect the [37:32] population to grow by about 10% [37:37] out to 2060. If you said all of [37:39] that new growth had just half [37:40] of the transportation impact of [37:42] the existing population, that [37:43] would only reduce greenhouse [37:45] gas emissions, or vmt, which is [37:48] the proxy by about 2.8%, our [37:58] target 17%. Yeah. And it really [37:59] highlights that it puts us in [38:02] this difficult situation where [38:05] it's we're challenged to change [38:07] existing travel behaviors while [38:08] also not being able to rely [38:10] heavily on new growth to bring [38:14] down the per capita aspect. [38:15] When you walk out of your front [38:17] door and go somewhere, there's [38:18] a high likelihood that you're [38:20] either going to spend money or [38:21] going to make money. And by [38:23] definition, that is economic [38:26] activity. Economic activity is [38:28] directly related to travel. And [38:31] sb 375 asks us to push back [38:33] against that a little bit. The [38:35] cost of travel MAY affect [38:37] travel behaviors. Californians [38:39] pay about 150% of the national [38:42] average for gasoline. Yet the [38:44] last time I was in Los Angeles, [38:47] the 405 was still packed. There [38:49] are when they're not convenient [38:50] and easy alternatives, people [38:53] will choose what works for them. [38:54] And I highlight, prior to [38:56] coming to sb kg in 2014, I [38:57] worked for about eight years [38:59] for the mpo in the Philadelphia [39:01] region. I think I drove to work [39:03] twice. I would walk to the [39:05] train station, ride the train [39:08] to the city, walk to my office. [39:10] What was different? It was [39:11] quicker to take the train and [39:13] it was cheaper because I didn't [39:16] have to pay $20 a day to park a [39:19] car in the center city, but it [39:21] just highlights that transit [39:23] can be effective when the [39:26] conditions align. But really, [39:28] the point that I want to make, [39:30] there's a lot that goes into [39:32] defining the behaviors of the [39:33] traveling public that do not [39:35] come to this board for a [39:38] decision yet sb 375 kind of [39:40] holds us to account for those [39:41] decisions, or the lack of [39:47] decisions. Okay, so sb 375 asks [39:49] us to reduce greenhouse gas [39:50] emissions from light duty [39:52] vehicles by 2035. The good news [39:54] is, is the transportation [39:55] projects that we have in the [39:56] land use developments in the [39:58] region can bend the curve. The [40:00] bad news is that doesn't happen [40:02] overnight. A couple of [40:03] rhetorical questions. Director [40:05] Friedman. There are two Macy's [40:06] sites in the city of Santa [40:07] Barbara with significant [40:09] housing developments proposed. [40:11] It was three and a half years [40:12] ago that actually right here in [40:13] this room, we were talking [40:15] about a specific plan for one [40:16] of them. When will the [40:18] residents move in? Director [40:20] Hartman, how long have we been [40:21] trying to get a trail across [40:23] the Santa Ynez Valley? Director [40:25] Patino. The city of Santa Maria [40:27] is redeveloping its downtown. [40:29] When will that be complete? [40:31] It's. We are making progress. [40:33] But these things are slow. The [40:35] 101 is almost done. It was [40:37] about 20 years ago that the [40:39] first shovel went into the [40:42] ground. So we are doing a good [40:44] job of advancing the projects [40:46] that support more sustainable [40:47] travel and travel behaviors. [40:49] But they do not happen as fast [40:53] as sb 375 wants. And one other [40:55] point on this slide that I'd [40:57] like to make is a lot of the [40:58] major transportation projects [41:00] that we advance and the ones [41:02] that are supportive of [41:04] sustainable travel require the [41:06] use of competitive grant funds. [41:08] Those funding programs are [41:10] extremely oversubscribed. And, [41:11] for example, the state's active [41:13] transportation program has [41:20] roughly a 20% success rate. So [41:23] Ab32 became law in 2006. Sb 32 [41:24] followed in 2008, and since [41:26] then there's been a variety of [41:27] other laws and regulations that [41:29] came on line that are trying to [41:31] achieve the same objectives as [41:34] sb 375, and they define how we [41:37] plan regionally with or without [41:41] sb 375. For one, the arena [41:43] process, how we allocate [41:45] housing across the region has a [41:47] series of five statutory [41:48] objectives that we must follow. [41:51] We're required to follow, [41:52] however, they're aligned with [41:55] sb 375. So we would be [41:57] allocating consistent with this [41:59] law with or without the law. [42:01] Senate Bill 743 changed the [42:03] California Environmental [42:04] Quality Act, the transportation [42:06] impact aspect of it, to align [42:10] it with Senate Bill 375. The [42:12] state was trying to reduce [42:14] greenhouse gas emissions by [42:15] electrifying the vehicle fleet [42:17] that's currently on hold. But [42:19] ultimately, it would negate [42:21] Senate Bill 375. And finally, [42:24] by way of executive orders, the [42:26] state has the Climate Action [42:27] Plan for transportation [42:29] infrastructure as well as [42:31] Caltrans System Investment [42:33] Strategy, which essentially [42:34] focused transportation [42:35] investments consistent with [42:38] Senate Bill 375. And all these [42:40] things would happen with or [42:45] without that law. So on to [42:49] reform. When Senate Bill 375 [42:50] first became law, there were [42:54] two target years 2020 and 2035. [42:56] 2020 is in the past, 2035 is [42:58] not too far away for a variety [43:00] of other challenges. There are [43:01] efforts across the state to [43:04] reform the law. First, sb, kg [43:06] partnered with the San Luis [43:07] Obispo Council of Governments, [43:10] or sacog the staff there to [43:12] write a white paper which was [43:13] attached to your staff report. [43:15] The paper lays out many of the [43:17] issues I spoke of and lays out, [43:18] or suggests a better way [43:20] forward, but what does that [43:21] better way forward look like? [43:22] Essentially, it's moving from [43:24] an idealistic law to a [43:29] pragmatic law. We suggest that [43:30] targets should consider [43:32] expected population growth [43:32] because, as I mentioned, [43:34] there's two ways to address the [43:37] greenhouse gas emissions. We [43:39] would like to keep the focus on [43:41] the decisions that this board [43:43] has authority to make, and not [43:44] hold us to account for [43:45] decisions that this board [43:48] doesn't make. In addition, the [43:50] state should provide the level [43:51] of funding necessary to [43:54] implement a state law and to [43:56] reduce the heavily, heavily [43:57] quantitative aspects of the law [44:01] to get more into a softer [44:03] analysis, and finally, to [44:04] improve the required [44:05] collaboration with the [44:07] California Air Resources Board. [44:08] So that's the white paper which [44:11] is attached. There's also [44:15] another effort across the state. [44:19] So the largest four MPOs in the [44:22] state came together to develop [44:24] a draft proposal. The draft [44:25] proposal does share some [44:27] similarities to ours, and much [44:29] of it would be a benefit. I [44:30] don't want to say the whole [44:33] thing would, but much of it [44:36] would be an improvement. They [44:38] want to focus more on [44:39] implementation. They would like [44:40] to move from a four year to [44:44] eight year cycle, and another [44:45] important component is they [44:47] want MPOs to be able to take [44:49] credit for all things that [44:50] reduce greenhouse gas emissions [44:52] from light duty vehicles. For [44:53] instance, we get zero credit [44:54] for the electrification of the [44:58] vehicle fleet, which by itself [45:00] is extremely effective at [45:01] reducing greenhouse gas [45:05] emissions. So that's the big [45:07] four proposal. So the next [45:08] steps in a minute you'll hear [45:11] from Gus Corey and see that sb [45:13] 375 is included in our draft [45:14] legislative platform. And Gus [45:15] MAY have other comments on the [45:18] law. We will keep you informed [45:21] of proposals, including if they [45:22] impact your city council or [45:24] Board of Supervisors role, and [45:25] when there are concrete [45:26] proposals, we will return to [45:29] seek your direction on how to [45:31] address those or to try and [45:33] influence those. With that, I'm [45:36] happy to take any questions. [45:37] All right. Do we have any [45:39] questions from director, [45:40] director Brown? Director [45:44] Hartman, go first. Thank you [45:46] for it's good report, but I [45:50] find that some of the I think [45:53] we skew the the statistics [45:55] significantly. Solvang. [45:59] Particularly with where we have [46:00] almost everybody coming in [46:02] through we have over a million [46:04] visitors a year. And I promise [46:06] you, most of them are spending [46:07] more than an hour on the road [46:10] to get there, but they're not [46:14] part of our population or per [46:17] capita, I guess. So I'm seeing [46:20] skews in that way. If I [46:23] understand your statistical [46:25] model correctly. Right. Good [46:27] question, Director Brown. So [46:29] the the chart that I showed was [46:31] focused just on the journey to [46:32] work. But we are responsible [46:35] for most travel is included [46:39] within the umbrella of sb 375. [46:42] There are differences and I [46:45] can't speak completely on [46:47] whether or not the trip starts [46:48] outside of our region or it [46:49] just passes through our region. [46:50] Like for instance, if somebody [46:52] was coming up from Los Angeles [46:54] to go visit Solvang, we would [46:56] probably only be taking credit [46:58] for from the county line of [46:59] Carpinteria up to Solvang in [47:02] terms of the miles. But yes, I [47:03] hear you. And that's actually [47:06] an interesting point, is if you [47:07] have this law, that's a state [47:10] law that's asking people to [47:11] essentially trying to get [47:14] people to drive less. Yet, you [47:16] know, we still very actively [47:18] promote tourism and so forth [47:20] that encourages people to drive [47:24] more. And it's not just solving, [47:25] it's also the casino and many [47:29] other entities that are [47:31] inviting Santa Barbara. So if [47:33] those if the tourism to the [47:35] city of Solvang, the casino or [47:36] wherever else the tourists are [47:38] going in Santa Barbara County [47:39] continues to grow, it just [47:41] makes our challenge even harder [47:42] because we're focused on a per [47:44] capita basis, so that the total [47:45] number of miles is divided by [47:47] the population. Population [47:49] stays stagnant and the miles [47:52] grows. So your your proposed [47:53] solution is a modification of [47:58] sb 375. Sb 375 is going to [47:59] change whether we influence it [48:01] or not. There's enough motion [48:03] behind it that it's it's going [48:04] to change probably in the [48:05] current legislative session. [48:07] Gus can add more to that, but [48:09] there's a variety of things we [48:12] want to do. Like, for instance, [48:14] there's a lot that impacts [48:16] travel behavior like tourism, [48:18] that there's no question that [48:19] ever comes to the board that [48:22] says yes or no. It's happening [48:24] outside of the purview of sb, [48:26] kg, yet we are the ones [48:27] responsible for it. So to kind [48:29] of focus it more on what this [48:32] board controls rather than [48:35] travel behavior in general. And [48:37] the same goes for land use that [48:40] we lay out a regional land use [48:42] development pattern. We have no [48:43] land use authority. The cities [48:45] and the county can do what they [48:48] please. Yet we're kind of held [48:49] to account for if it doesn't [48:53] happen. Through the chair. [48:55] Director Brown, I think the [48:56] point that we're trying to make [48:59] is sb, cag has been doing the [49:02] the spirit of 375 for the last [49:03] 20 years. I mean, the one on [49:06] one is an hov lane. We've been [49:07] promoting bicycle, we've been [49:09] promoting regional transit. So [49:11] we're doing 375 regardless of [49:15] the law. If the law is making [49:18] it a challenge for for me as an [49:19] executive director of this [49:21] agency, of being able to [49:23] continue to do those good [49:25] things when if we don't meet [49:27] the target, I, we as an agency [49:29] MAY get punished and not be [49:31] eligible for funding at the [49:32] state level because of it. And [49:35] that's a problem when when as a [49:37] region, you know, we're not [49:38] growing. So that per capita, [49:41] the the delta of that change is [49:44] mathematically impossible to [49:45] achieve the 17% reduction [49:47] because we're not growing [49:51] enough. Yeah. So it it's a it's [49:55] a it's a conundrum. Right. So [49:57] so my goal here is to make the [50:00] law the spirit of the law, [50:02] which was good to balance [50:04] transportation and housing and [50:06] funding in one document, which [50:09] is good, but not punish people [50:12] for not because we have other [50:13] goals. Reducing greenhouse [50:15] gases is not your only goal of [50:17] this agency. It's providing [50:19] transportation for the [50:20] traveling public. It's really [50:23] our goal. So again, I'm trying [50:24] to I know we didn't get it [50:26] really into the nitty gritty. [50:27] And you don't want to because [50:29] this is a very bureaucratic law. [50:32] It's from my perspective. And [50:34] working with it is very [50:36] challenging to achieve the [50:38] goals like we just achieved. In [50:40] your last item of getting a [50:42] train started, you know, it's [50:44] it's not it's not helping the [50:46] cause. It MAY be hurting our [50:49] cause. These are unintended [50:52] consequences. And our [50:53] accountability is it doesn't [50:56] reflect our engagement. Correct. [50:58] And this bill MAY make sense in [50:59] the larger areas where they [51:00] have more tools and more growth [51:03] and more or more incentives for [51:05] funding and funding different [51:06] things. It MAY make more sense [51:08] in the bigger areas, but for a [51:11] rural county like ours or [51:12] semi-rural, it, it's not [51:15] working. So somebody has to say, [51:17] time out here, we need to do [51:18] something different. And this [51:19] is our our communication of [51:21] that. Thank you, Director [51:24] Hartman. Yeah. Listening to you, [51:27] i mean, it's hard to think of a [51:31] regional agency in the county [51:32] that could pull the various [51:36] entities together. So. So if [51:38] you don't do it here, you know, [51:39] where would you do it? That's. [51:42] I think that is the conundrum. [51:43] I just wanted to ask for the [51:49] regional land use development. [51:51] Pattern. If you're working with [51:54] Lafco. Lafco just got a major [51:57] grant from the sustainable [51:58] agricultural community, and [52:00] they have a process to try to [52:03] figure out where where should [52:06] growth occur around cities and [52:09] where not because of [52:12] environmental or other reasons. [52:14] So I just wanted to make sure [52:16] that, you know, it's important [52:19] that we collaborate and have [52:20] consistency to the extent that [52:23] we can. So that's the other [52:25] regional entity that's trying [52:27] to struggle with this, and I [52:29] did. That's actually exciting [52:30] to hear that they got their [52:31] grant because I did contribute [52:32] to their application. And I [52:34] when I did, I mentioned if you [52:36] get funded please include me in [52:39] your. Okay. Well, those of us [52:40] who serve on the board, [52:41] Director Nelson and I and [52:44] Director Patino will carry that [52:46] message back. But you know now [52:53] to thank you, Director Mosby. [52:56] As an alternate here. I think [52:58] you did. You guys did a great [53:00] job with arena. And I think the [53:02] complexity of arena is it just [53:04] sticks on that top circular [53:07] layer. And this is a spiraling [53:08] tornado. So it goes down [53:10] historically through time. And [53:12] what you're focused on housing, [53:13] you're missing one of the [53:15] aspects of the jobs housing [53:17] imbalance. And that's the jobs. [53:20] So as an example in the [53:21] community of Lompoc, what has [53:24] happened? Well, land is zoned [53:25] pcd, planned commercial [53:26] development going to housing, [53:29] land zoned ppe, going to [53:31] housing. We have [53:32] recommendations for churches to [53:35] be torn down for housing, [53:36] restaurants torn down for [53:38] housing, other social halls [53:41] converting to housing. And the [53:43] complexity is, is, is people at [53:44] the higher level who don't live [53:46] in the community, who don't [53:48] understand the community, are [53:49] making decisions for the [53:51] community. You know, somehow [53:53] the agricultural protectionism [53:54] has gotten to the point that [53:57] that housing is an endangered [53:59] species. Broccoli isn't, but [54:01] broccoli is treated more [54:02] importantly than than quality [54:05] housing for the people. But at [54:06] Multilayers it goes down. [54:10] People say, well, exasperating [54:11] those mileage aspects of it is [54:13] the community of Lompoc. You [54:15] know, we're over 10,000 people [54:17] leave the town all the time to [54:18] go find a job. I think it's [54:20] well over 60% of the people. If [54:22] you have a job, you commute for [54:25] that job. So you said it's it's [54:26] difficult for you to get to [54:28] that answer. We can't get there. [54:30] But I think it's important, [54:32] which I get chastised for, for [54:33] bringing up historical [54:35] components and how we got where [54:37] we are. And it's understand the [54:38] balance that you have to have [54:40] to get through, but it needs to [54:42] be based on not just the top [54:43] layer. And I'll give you an [54:45] example. In one step, the [54:47] county eliminated 7642 home [54:50] sites around the city of Lompoc, [54:52] eliminated 292 acres of light [54:54] industrial and commercial [54:55] properties around Lompoc. And [54:57] all of a sudden, you wonder why [54:59] a town can't feed itself. And [55:00] then you get way overly complex [55:02] and long term plans that were [55:04] this bp zoned land that was [55:07] going to bring jobs. But now [55:08] we're going to build housing [55:10] and we're going to be the [55:11] solution. I've been told by [55:12] South County people they would [55:13] support workforce housing for [55:15] us. What does that exacerbate [55:17] the jobs if it's workforce [55:19] designed for South County? Now [55:21] the complexity is we don't [55:22] necessarily get to harvest all [55:24] the jobs that are at the base, [55:25] which hits the 135 out here. [55:27] You go out here and there's an [55:28] hour wait because we haven't [55:30] built it. Last year we built [55:32] zero homes. Year before that, [55:34] we built two homes. We built a [55:36] built a number of low income [55:38] stuff. So you want to redirect [55:40] people who don't have jobs to a [55:41] community that doesn't have [55:44] jobs. And then you thus [55:45] exasperate. And it's the way [55:47] this has to be lifted up. You [55:49] know, we need to bring the jobs [55:51] as you guys did. Thank you for [55:53] the above moderate component so [55:54] we can try to bring that. And [55:55] this year we should be looking [55:58] at 350 houses built this year. [56:00] And we're directing that more [56:01] towards bringing the people [56:03] working at the base to the [56:04] community. But I think when you [56:06] guys mentioned the jobs housing [56:07] imbalance is also to look at [56:09] the job component, but also [56:10] historically, how did [56:12] communities get designed? If [56:14] you look at the 5859 general [56:16] plan maps and zoning maps of [56:18] the community, you'll see the [56:19] complexity that happened to the [56:20] community of Lompoc and the [56:22] Lompoc Valley. And I think I [56:23] brought it to you guys [56:24] attention before. But studies [56:26] from 1968 said Lompoc, by the [56:29] year 2020 would be 196,000 [56:32] people. And you wonder what [56:35] happened. You wonder why we are [56:37] where we are and why you have [56:38] the conundrum of trying to [56:39] solve the problem. And it is [56:41] very complicated. And it can't [56:42] just be on a simple arena [56:44] without storing the deep [56:45] analytics of how we got where [56:47] we are. And you guys are doing [56:51] a great job, I get it, but [56:52] remember, it's it's like I said, [56:54] in the case of Lompoc, it's a [56:57] spiraling downward tornado. And [56:59] it's got us where it's a much [57:01] more complicated than. And I [57:03] think Director Levin brought [57:04] something up very important [57:06] about 6 or 7 years ago. And as [57:09] the success of Rina and we do [57:11] all this studies, do all these [57:12] analytics, we put something [57:13] together. And then what happens [57:14] now? This time the state's [57:16] trying to put a few more teeth [57:17] in it and change rules. But [57:19] these rules are going to [57:21] exacerbate the problem. They [57:22] really are that people can [57:25] blindly just, you know, convert [57:27] land how it wants to in such [57:29] the way they do, or the states [57:30] will mandate or they'll come in. [57:33] And, you know, in our case, [57:34] land, it was zoned bp is not [57:36] going to have 80 houses on [57:40] instead of 350 jobs. How do you [57:44] solve that? Yeah. Thank you. [57:46] Any questions down in Santa [57:51] Barbara for staff. Okay. I just [57:54] had one. I was just curious. [57:55] The only piece that I feel like [57:57] maybe is a blinder. Maybe this [57:58] isn't the appropriate place to [57:59] do it, but I was wondering. [58:01] There's no mention about kind [58:02] of the infrastructure support [58:04] that we can provide for, like [58:05] telecommuting, which I feel [58:07] like is a position that a lot [58:08] of solutions are available for [58:09] shrinking the vmt. I know that [58:11] I, you know, I'm on the high [58:13] chart. I drive more than 32 [58:14] miles for my job when I go. And [58:16] so I just was wondering, is [58:17] there a means of advocacy about [58:19] counting a means of decreasing [58:21] vmt from providing the [58:22] infrastructure to provide more [58:24] tele telecommuting jobs [58:24] available? Is that something [58:26] that's available or that we can [58:28] advocate for? Yes, a very good [58:30] question. So we do take credit [58:32] for telecommuting and the [58:33] pandemic. One of the benefits [58:35] that came out of that is we see [58:36] much higher levels of [58:38] telecommuting post-pandemic. [58:40] And then on the sb side, what [58:42] can we do to promote that? Two [58:43] things. Number one, we have a [58:45] travel demand management [58:46] division, the multimodal [58:48] programs that works. And that's [58:50] Whitney to connect people with [58:51] sustainable modes of [58:54] transportation or things that [58:58] reduce trips. So therefore, [59:01] working at home and also [59:02] started with Margie and then [59:04] went through planning. And now [59:05] it's with project delivery as [59:07] the broadband aspect of trying [59:08] to build out a broadband [59:10] network that fully enables [59:12] remote work. Thank you, [59:16] Director Hartman. I think what [59:19] Director Moseby says is, is [59:21] really important. And I keep [59:24] thinking, what is sb k's role [59:26] in economic development and job [59:31] creation? And I wonder if one [59:33] thing we could do is invite [59:35] reach to make a presentation. [59:37] I'm not sure that all the [59:39] directors are are as involved [59:41] in that as some of us. And I [59:45] think they're looking both at [59:48] slo County and Santa Barbara [59:50] County as a whole. And and I [59:54] think it might at least [59:56] generate some, some new ideas. [59:58] So I would put that forward as [1:00:02] a recommendation. Okay. Any [1:00:06] further questions? Okay. Do we [1:00:07] have anyone else presenting on [1:00:09] this time. No. Next is the next [1:00:11] item okay. Is there any public [1:00:13] comment on this item? Are there [1:00:14] any members of the public on [1:00:15] the zoom webinar who wish to [1:00:17] speak? Would you please use the [1:00:18] raise Hand feature and I will [1:00:21] call upon you? We did not [1:00:22] receive any public comment for [1:00:24] this item in advance, and there [1:00:26] are no members of the public [1:00:28] who wish to speak. Okay. Seeing [1:00:29] no further comments from the [1:00:31] board, we'll go. This is just a [1:00:32] presentation only, no action. [1:00:34] So we will move on to item five. [1:00:36] C could you please read that [1:00:37] into the record item five c [1:00:39] draft 2026 State and federal [1:00:41] Legislative Platform [1:00:42] recommended actions one. [1:00:44] Receive and file a report from [1:00:46] sb federal lobbyist Dawn [1:00:48] Gilchrist of Thomas Walters and [1:00:49] Associates, Inc. To receive and [1:00:51] file a report from sb state [1:00:53] lobbyist Gus Corey of Corey [1:00:55] Consulting. Three approve sb [1:00:57] Cags 2026 federal and state [1:01:00] legislative platforms and four [1:01:01] authorize the sb Executive [1:01:02] Director to execute any [1:01:04] necessary documentation to add [1:01:06] sb kg. As a signatory to the [1:01:09] California's federal Surface [1:01:11] Transportation Reauthorization [1:01:13] Principles. Thank you very much. [1:01:15] Thank you, and good morning, [1:01:17] everyone. For the record, my [1:01:19] name is Lauren Bianchi, Clemen, [1:01:20] director of Government affairs [1:01:22] and public information for sb [1:01:24] cag. Today, I'll be presenting [1:01:27] the agency's 2026 state and [1:01:28] legislative platforms. These [1:01:31] definitely guide our advocacy [1:01:32] efforts in Sacramento and [1:01:34] Washington, dc, to secure [1:01:36] funding and advance policies [1:01:37] for high priority [1:01:40] transportation projects and [1:01:42] measure a investments when [1:01:43] major funding decisions are [1:01:45] made by the state and federal [1:01:46] governments, regions that speak [1:01:49] clearly and consistently [1:01:51] compete well for those funds. [1:01:53] So our platforms are how our [1:01:54] cities and the county can [1:01:56] coordinate in one regional [1:01:58] voice. These platforms are [1:02:00] updated annually and input from [1:02:02] and contain input from our [1:02:04] advisory committees, transit [1:02:06] partners, advocates, our [1:02:08] legislative advocates, regional [1:02:09] associations, associations like [1:02:12] the California Association of [1:02:14] Council of Governments. I also [1:02:16] want to recognize the sb case [1:02:18] management team. We meet [1:02:20] annually in the fall to kind of [1:02:22] set our priorities and look at [1:02:23] what the region's needs are. So [1:02:25] they really help shape these [1:02:26] platforms that are before you [1:02:29] today. So before you take [1:02:30] action on the platforms, you [1:02:33] will hear from our federal. [1:02:34] You'll hear about our federal [1:02:37] and state outlooks. And and [1:02:38] they will help provide context [1:02:40] for what we're proposing this [1:02:42] year. You'll first hear from [1:02:44] Don Gilchrist of Thomas Walters [1:02:46] and Associates, followed by Gus [1:02:49] Corey of Corey Consulting. Also [1:02:51] included in your action today [1:02:54] is allowing sb cag to join in [1:02:57] the Statewide Reauthorization [1:03:00] Principles document or support [1:03:02] the state's efforts on that. [1:03:03] And that's consistent with sb [1:03:07] cag reauthorization priorities. [1:03:08] This is an important time to do [1:03:10] that, because Congress is [1:03:11] renewing the federal [1:03:14] transportation law that funds [1:03:17] highways, bridges, transit, and [1:03:19] programs nationwide. So that [1:03:21] current law expires on [1:03:22] SEPTEMBER 30th of this year. [1:03:24] And so being at that forefront [1:03:26] and lending our voice not just [1:03:27] only with our priorities, but [1:03:29] with the state, is an important [1:03:31] path forward. So the draft [1:03:33] platforms are attached to your [1:03:35] report. It's included a track [1:03:37] changes version that documents [1:03:39] what's been changed since last [1:03:42] year, and a clean copy for your [1:03:43] consideration. So with that, [1:03:46] I'm going to pause and welcome [1:03:48] Don Gilchrist to talk about our [1:03:51] federal outlook. And then after [1:03:52] his, we can have a discussion [1:03:54] on the federal platform and [1:03:58] then move on to the state. [1:03:59] Thank you. And good morning, [1:04:01] Vice Chair Silva. Members of [1:04:02] the board, Don Gilchrist, I'm [1:04:04] PRESIDENT Of Thomas Walters and [1:04:06] Associates. And I do want to [1:04:08] just give you a little bit of [1:04:10] an update on the federal [1:04:11] legislative situation. As you [1:04:14] look at the platform real [1:04:17] briefly. Last year was a very [1:04:20] interesting year. We [1:04:22] surprisingly, there was an [1:04:23] incredible number of executive [1:04:24] orders that came out of the [1:04:27] white House that really shaped [1:04:30] things and shook things up. I [1:04:31] think that's going to continue [1:04:34] this year. Last year it seems [1:04:36] like a distant memory, but H.R. [1:04:37] One, the Budget Reconciliation [1:04:40] Act, was signed into law in [1:04:42] JULY, and that has huge impacts [1:04:46] for sba. It unfortunately took [1:04:47] away some of the opportunities [1:04:49] and options for you to pursue [1:04:51] renewable energy incentives and [1:04:54] things like electric vehicle [1:04:55] charging infrastructure. Many [1:04:57] of those incentives were [1:05:00] repealed in H.R. One and then [1:05:02] appropriations. Always a [1:05:03] difficult thing for Congress to [1:05:05] do to get the appropriations [1:05:07] bill signed into law. We had [1:05:09] that really long shutdown in [1:05:11] OCTOBER and NOVEMBER. So it was [1:05:13] a very difficult year. But as [1:05:16] of FEBRUARY 3rd, 11 of the 12 [1:05:18] bills have been signed into law, [1:05:20] including the transportation [1:05:21] bill. And that's the one that [1:05:24] really counts a lot for you. As [1:05:27] part of that, $1.5 million has [1:05:29] been signed into law for the [1:05:30] Cabrillo Project, and this was [1:05:31] something that Representative [1:05:33] Carbajal worked very hard on. [1:05:36] He requested this for sb, kg, [1:05:37] and his support was [1:05:39] instrumental in that being [1:05:40] included. And then, as Lauren [1:05:44] said, we are looking for a new [1:05:46] reauthorization for the Surface [1:05:47] Transportation Program [1:05:49] legislation. And last year we [1:05:50] started to lobby on that to get [1:05:52] ahead of the curve. And so it [1:05:54] was a very busy year. If we go [1:05:56] to the next slide, I did want [1:05:58] to talk a little bit more about [1:05:58] the transportation [1:05:59] appropriations bill, since [1:06:01] that's so important for you. [1:06:02] Essentially, this is a [1:06:04] compromise. Some of the [1:06:05] reductions that PRESIDENT Trump [1:06:08] was proposing were included in [1:06:11] this legislation. And notably, [1:06:12] there were there was a [1:06:13] rescission of funding for the [1:06:15] electric vehicle infrastructure [1:06:17] program, also a really big [1:06:18] rescission of funding for high [1:06:21] speed rail projects. But by and [1:06:24] large, the cuts that he was [1:06:25] proposing were rejected. And [1:06:27] the news is generally good for [1:06:29] sb, kg. Most of your funding [1:06:31] comes through the highway and [1:06:33] transit formulas, and they were [1:06:34] fully funded. And there are [1:06:36] some other opportunities in the [1:06:37] legislation for competitive [1:06:38] grants. What I wanted to make [1:06:41] sure to mention is that this is [1:06:43] the final year of the [1:06:45] additional funding for [1:06:46] transportation programs that [1:06:48] was provided by the [1:06:49] Infrastructure Investment and [1:06:51] Jobs Act. That is, in addition [1:06:53] to funding that is enacted [1:06:54] through the appropriations [1:06:56] process. And so as that comes [1:06:57] to an end, that just highlights, [1:07:00] again, how important the [1:07:01] reauthorization will be as we [1:07:03] work through this year. If we [1:07:05] go to the next slide, I do want [1:07:06] to just talk about that process [1:07:09] a little bit. Just first of all, [1:07:11] how important this is was [1:07:13] demonstrated during that long [1:07:15] government shutdown. There was [1:07:17] no interruption to the highway [1:07:18] program. There was no [1:07:19] interruption to the transit [1:07:21] program. And that was because [1:07:22] of funding that was enacted [1:07:24] through the infrastructure law. [1:07:25] And that illustrates how [1:07:27] important this is for you to [1:07:30] provide not only a robust [1:07:33] funding, but reliable funding. [1:07:35] The big challenge, how are we [1:07:37] going to pay for it? The [1:07:40] Highway Trust Fund will be [1:07:42] insolvent by 2028. That's [1:07:44] because motor fuels taxes are [1:07:47] not keeping up with spending. [1:07:48] So that's a big challenge to [1:07:50] getting the next surface [1:07:51] transportation bill put [1:07:55] together for you. We're really [1:07:57] emphasizing increasing the size [1:08:01] of the formula programs and [1:08:02] allocating as much of that [1:08:04] funding down to your level as [1:08:06] possible. And there's a number [1:08:07] of other programs that we're [1:08:09] working on, the metropolitan [1:08:10] planning programs, very [1:08:12] important for you, passenger [1:08:14] rail, transit, active [1:08:16] transportation, all those are [1:08:18] part of our lobbying effort. [1:08:20] And then there's the broadband [1:08:21] component that was included in [1:08:23] the infrastructure law. And we [1:08:25] want to see that continue if [1:08:27] possible. That's a little bit [1:08:28] controversial, but we're hoping [1:08:30] that something can be done for [1:08:32] that. I think what we're going [1:08:35] to see is a House bill come out [1:08:37] in the spring, and that's going [1:08:39] to give us a lot of help [1:08:40] understanding where this is [1:08:41] going. Is it going to be a [1:08:43] Partizan bill that the [1:08:44] committee chair puts together, [1:08:47] or is he going to keep it a [1:08:49] bipartisan process? And then a [1:08:50] little bit later, closer to the [1:08:53] summer, I think the Senate will [1:08:54] show their hand on what they're [1:08:57] going to be doing. This slide [1:08:59] just gives a summary of the [1:09:01] federal platform that's in your [1:09:03] packet. We'll just say there's [1:09:05] a lot of continuity with the [1:09:09] previous year. I think we've [1:09:11] updated it in a few places just [1:09:15] to account for the status of [1:09:18] legislation, but I'm [1:09:20] recommending that sb, cag again [1:09:23] come to dc this time in MARCH, [1:09:25] with board members and staff to [1:09:27] be able to lobby on your [1:09:29] federal platform. I think that [1:09:30] would be a great time for you [1:09:32] to be there. It's going to be [1:09:33] an interesting year again, a [1:09:35] difficult year with lots of [1:09:36] challenges. But I think if you [1:09:38] think see how the [1:09:39] appropriations process in [1:09:41] particular came together, it [1:09:43] does show that an aggressive [1:09:45] advocacy program does make a [1:09:47] difference. And some of these [1:09:49] things are important enough. We [1:09:50] can fight these battles and we [1:09:52] can win these battles. So I'll [1:09:54] pause there to see if I can [1:09:56] respond to any questions you [1:09:57] have. But I'm looking forward [1:09:58] to working with you throughout [1:10:01] the rest of this year. Thank [1:10:02] you very much. I ask Director [1:10:06] Hartman, why is broadband [1:10:07] controversial? Just sort of [1:10:09] public private responsibilities, [1:10:13] or does it go deeper? It's [1:10:14] certainly been targeted by the [1:10:18] Trump administration. The the [1:10:22] criticism that they levied was [1:10:23] that all this money has been [1:10:26] spent and no results have been [1:10:27] accomplished. I don't think [1:10:29] that's a fair assessment. I [1:10:32] don't think it is everything [1:10:33] that they're thinking about. [1:10:34] Broadband is just the most [1:10:37] convenient thing to say, but it [1:10:39] is definitely an area where [1:10:41] this additional funding that [1:10:43] was provided through the [1:10:45] infrastructure law isn't [1:10:46] necessarily going to be that [1:10:47] easy to replicate this time [1:10:52] around. Republicans in Congress [1:10:54] do have an interest in this, [1:10:55] but we've seen that they have [1:10:59] been not that excited about [1:11:00] going against the white House. [1:11:02] So we'll see how this goes, how [1:11:03] this plays out. No one really [1:11:05] has a really good feel for how [1:11:07] this is going to happen in the [1:11:10] area of broadband yet. Yeah, I [1:11:11] guess I don't understand. I [1:11:13] mean, I think of freeways and [1:11:15] railroads and there's always [1:11:18] been a huge federal investment, [1:11:19] government investment, along [1:11:21] with private money if we want [1:11:24] to make a difference. So I'm [1:11:25] and a lot of the money was [1:11:27] never even allocated. It's not [1:11:29] like it got rolled out the door. [1:11:35] So I'm still puzzled. I am too. [1:11:36] Any other questions up here in [1:11:40] Santa Maria? Any questions down [1:11:45] in Santa Barbara? Okay. Not [1:11:47] seeing. Thank you very much. [1:11:48] Great. So before we move on to [1:11:50] the state, I did want to [1:11:51] highlight that we are now that [1:11:53] the 101 is almost done using [1:11:55] this opportunity on our federal [1:11:56] platform to raise awareness [1:11:58] about the final four measure a [1:12:00] projects. So that is one of the [1:12:01] big changes that you see in the [1:12:02] legislative platform. And one [1:12:04] of our big efforts. We're [1:12:05] really looking forward to kind [1:12:06] of talking about those final [1:12:07] four projects, giving fact [1:12:09] sheets, raising awareness so [1:12:11] that it can help prepare us for [1:12:13] the funding, future funding [1:12:15] that we'll need on those [1:12:17] projects and any questions. And [1:12:19] so and so that's it for the [1:12:21] federal platform. So with that, [1:12:23] it is my pleasure to invite Gus [1:12:26] Corey up to talk about our [1:12:30] state outlook. Good morning [1:12:31] directors. Pleasure to be here. [1:12:32] Gus Corey state legislative [1:12:34] advocate for sb, cag. Have a [1:12:35] very short PowerPoint [1:12:37] presentation here. Exciting [1:12:39] times in Sacramento, as you [1:12:41] would expect. Maybe not as [1:12:45] exciting as D.C. But. Just to [1:12:47] briefly look at our [1:12:48] accomplishments, just to have [1:12:49] perspective. And so we talk [1:12:51] about the one on one being [1:12:52] almost done from the [1:12:53] construction side. From the [1:12:54] funding side, I think we're [1:12:56] done, knock on wood. So just to [1:12:58] give some perspective, the hard [1:13:00] work that this body did to get [1:13:03] measure a approved, we've [1:13:05] leveraged more than six times [1:13:05] the amount of money that the [1:13:08] measure provides in order to [1:13:12] make the 101 a reality. And so [1:13:14] $916 million has been secured [1:13:18] since 2016, $400 million for [1:13:21] rail for sb, cag and Lausanne, [1:13:23] including getting the rail [1:13:26] station funded. This was thanks [1:13:27] to Director Kern and her [1:13:29] leadership and staff, all the [1:13:30] great applications that we put [1:13:32] in and our advocacy, we were [1:13:33] able to help create some of [1:13:36] these programs to make this a [1:13:38] reality. So active [1:13:39] transportation, there's been [1:13:40] less funding, but we've been [1:13:43] very successful over $102 [1:13:44] million that's been secured [1:13:47] since 2017. So as director said, [1:13:49] we've been throwing the kitchen [1:13:51] sink at trying to provide a [1:13:54] truly multi-modal region. This [1:13:56] is, you know, whether or not sb [1:13:58] 375 or any other state law was [1:14:00] even being contemplated. So cap [1:14:04] and invest, this was previously [1:14:05] monikered as the cap and trade [1:14:08] program that was extended. We [1:14:10] had a significant role in [1:14:12] moving the ball forward on this. [1:14:13] Senator lemon was the author of [1:14:15] one of the bills that had the [1:14:16] expenditures in there. What [1:14:19] they did is there used to be [1:14:20] continuous appropriations based [1:14:22] on a percentage share for [1:14:23] transit and housing. They now [1:14:25] made those line items. So it'll [1:14:25] be a little bit more [1:14:26] challenging. I'll talk about [1:14:28] that in a second. But it did [1:14:30] retain funding for some [1:14:31] affordable housing, sustainable [1:14:33] Community strategies funding [1:14:34] and then for transit capital [1:14:37] and operations. And then the [1:14:38] reprogram this was supplemental [1:14:39] funding for you guys to be able [1:14:41] to build affordable housing in [1:14:44] the region. And so we fought to [1:14:45] protect against some of the [1:14:48] cuts that Governor Newsom had [1:14:49] proposed last year. He wanted [1:14:51] to cut about $300 million. We [1:14:54] were able to save, recoup about [1:14:55] 250 million of that. So out of [1:14:58] a $600 million program, we kept [1:15:00] intact, 550 and that protected [1:15:02] 772 units in the county. Next [1:15:04] slide. So opportunities and [1:15:08] challenges $18 billion versus a [1:15:09] $2.9 billion general fund [1:15:11] deficit. That's the $18 billion [1:15:12] the Leos estimate. The [1:15:15] governor's estimate is 2.9. [1:15:16] It's based upon the fact that [1:15:18] the Leo factors in, hey, we [1:15:19] predict that the stock market's [1:15:21] going to go down by 20%. We [1:15:23] literally rely on the stock [1:15:25] market. It's capital gains, [1:15:26] personal income tax and [1:15:28] corporate taxes that fund the [1:15:30] general fund. The good news is [1:15:32] that we're fairly insulated [1:15:34] from that conversation, because [1:15:35] transportation relies on the [1:15:37] gas tax and then vehicle [1:15:39] registration fees for the most [1:15:41] part. But we get stung anytime [1:15:42] that we rely on the general [1:15:44] fund. So when there was a [1:15:45] surplus a couple years ago and [1:15:46] the legislature had approved [1:15:49] Senate Bill 125, we got a $53 [1:15:52] million formula, formulaic [1:15:55] share of a 5.1 statewide pot. [1:15:56] We have not received the full [1:15:58] balance of that money. And [1:15:59] what's happened is it was a [1:16:01] general fund obligation. It got [1:16:02] moved over into the greenhouse [1:16:04] gas reduction fund. Legislature [1:16:05] said, hey, we need to fund Cal [1:16:08] Fire. So we're going to it [1:16:10] creates less capacity. So we're [1:16:11] still waiting on about $14 [1:16:13] million worth of funding to [1:16:14] help out with our transit [1:16:15] operations and capital needs in [1:16:18] the county, and then on air [1:16:21] equality, as MR. Becker's [1:16:23] presentation pointed out, just [1:16:24] context there. So there has [1:16:26] been legislation that was [1:16:27] introduced a couple days ago, [1:16:30] Senate Bill 1087 by Senator [1:16:32] Cabaldon. He represents Yolo [1:16:35] County. It's just it's been a [1:16:36] one size fits all approach, [1:16:37] which has been really [1:16:38] frustrating. And MR. Becker [1:16:39] would tell you and Director [1:16:42] Kern would tell you that 87% of [1:16:43] the state's population lives in [1:16:45] the big four mpo. So Sacramento, [1:16:48] San Diego, Scag region and the [1:16:50] Bay area mtc. So that leaves 14 [1:16:52] other MPOs having to try to [1:16:55] address vehicle miles traveled [1:16:58] where the the mission doesn't [1:17:00] always befit the practicality [1:17:02] of our uniqueness as a as a [1:17:03] region. So if you're able to [1:17:05] build more housing, you get [1:17:06] dinged because you're creating [1:17:07] a new hot spot, because there [1:17:09] isn't money to have transit [1:17:10] oriented development, because [1:17:13] they've cut funding for rail or [1:17:16] for or for transit. 40% of our [1:17:17] economy, at least along the [1:17:19] Central Coast, relies on [1:17:23] tourism. When 5 or 99 shut down [1:17:24] due to inclement weather, the [1:17:26] one on one becomes your only [1:17:27] north south connector in the [1:17:28] state. And it's been an [1:17:30] evacuation route, as we've seen [1:17:32] time and time again. So those [1:17:33] conversations need to be [1:17:35] factored in. So what the bill [1:17:36] currently does right now, it's [1:17:39] going to change, I'm sure of it. [1:17:41] And we're fortunate that [1:17:42] Senator Lindeman is now the [1:17:44] Senate PRESIDENT Pro tem of the [1:17:45] Senate. So we have a strong [1:17:50] advocate there. But it delays [1:17:52] it, gives sb, cag more time in [1:17:53] order to put the Sustainable [1:17:55] Community Strategies plans [1:17:56] together, which is fine, [1:17:57] because we get into this [1:17:58] redundancy of just doing plan [1:17:59] after plan, but then they're [1:18:01] trying to fix some money to [1:18:03] their endeavor because us [1:18:05] coming out of pocket again for [1:18:06] unfunded state mandate doesn't [1:18:07] seem quite fair. So we're [1:18:08] trying to see how that shakes [1:18:11] out. So conversations will be [1:18:13] ongoing. Will be we'll play a [1:18:14] large role in that conversation. [1:18:17] And then the gas tax conversion, [1:18:20] this has been an ongoing thing. [1:18:22] The last time Senate Bill one [1:18:24] was sort of a band aid. It was [1:18:26] one time funding at the time [1:18:28] where we thought, hey, we can [1:18:29] increase the gas tax, have a [1:18:30] registration fee, and then [1:18:32] we'll convert over to something [1:18:33] else. Well, we haven't done [1:18:34] that since 2017. And so prior [1:18:37] to 2017, the last time that we [1:18:38] increased funding for [1:18:40] transportation was 1994. So [1:18:42] there's some misinformation on [1:18:44] the the road user charge or vmt [1:18:46] fee, however you want to refer [1:18:49] to it. And it's it is a [1:18:50] conundrum. It's a dichotomy [1:18:52] because the state wants to [1:18:53] reduce vehicle miles traveled, [1:18:54] yet they're trying to possibly [1:18:55] rely on vehicle miles traveled [1:18:57] to fund our infrastructure. [1:18:58] You're going to wind up having [1:19:00] the same problem as the gas tax. [1:19:01] It's a declining revenue source [1:19:02] because people telecommute more. [1:19:04] There are more electric [1:19:05] vehicles, although there's such [1:19:07] a small segment of the current [1:19:08] fleet that's out there, they're [1:19:11] about 7%. There's 32 million [1:19:12] registered cars in the state. [1:19:14] So we need something that's [1:19:15] more sustainable. Our [1:19:16] suggestion was maybe just [1:19:19] converting over to a vehicle [1:19:20] registration fee, which already [1:19:22] exists. It's progressive. Cars [1:19:23] depreciate, you pay less. It's [1:19:25] stable, predictable funding. [1:19:27] You can have people save money [1:19:30] there too. So that's an ongoing [1:19:31] conversation that we're happy [1:19:33] to engage the board on. And [1:19:34] then next slide please. So our [1:19:37] state platform protect and [1:19:40] acquire state funding a focus [1:19:42] of ours is on the broadband [1:19:44] piece. So sb cag was a [1:19:46] recipient. It was one time [1:19:47] funding that we received from [1:19:50] the feds where we have a $15 [1:19:52] million share. We've received [1:19:55] about $4 million. There's about [1:19:56] 11 million outstanding of the [1:19:58] puc owes us. So we want to talk [1:20:00] to Senator Assemblymember Hart [1:20:03] and others about trying to get [1:20:04] the full balance of that to [1:20:05] drive down vehicle miles [1:20:07] traveled to provide more [1:20:08] accessibility to others, you [1:20:10] know, within the region to work [1:20:12] from home, study from home, [1:20:14] whatever it is with the [1:20:15] Olympics. I know that we had [1:20:18] the picture earlier with [1:20:20] Director Comey. I know Director [1:20:21] Kern's been working with him. [1:20:22] So however, we can collaborate [1:20:24] and looking for resources to [1:20:26] help out with logistics and [1:20:27] facilitating a successful event. [1:20:29] And what we expect to be, a lot [1:20:31] of people are going to want to [1:20:32] come up this way to see what [1:20:34] the Central Coast has to offer [1:20:35] enhancing transit services, [1:20:36] trying to get the full balance [1:20:40] of our 125 funding, expanding [1:20:42] passenger rail service. That's [1:20:43] there's a gap in service. [1:20:45] Really low end terminates in [1:20:48] San Luis Obispo. And then [1:20:49] you've got Cap corridor and [1:20:51] others that terminate in San [1:20:53] Jose. So there's about a 153 [1:20:55] mile gap. If we clear that gap [1:20:57] you'd probably help encourage [1:20:59] mode shift. There's more [1:21:00] discretionary riders along the [1:21:02] coast and then addressing [1:21:03] climate change excess revenues. [1:21:05] So there was discussion when we [1:21:07] passed the cap and Invest [1:21:09] program that because of the [1:21:10] market stability, that there [1:21:12] would be excess revenues [1:21:13] produced through the auctions. [1:21:15] If so, we'd like to see that [1:21:17] augmented towards transit, [1:21:19] whether that's operations and [1:21:21] capital, maybe even active [1:21:22] transportation, because that's, [1:21:23] you know, been dwindling. If [1:21:24] that's something that the sb [1:21:26] cag wants to pursue and then [1:21:29] House money is reap was one [1:21:30] time funding. We need more of [1:21:32] it clearly because otherwise [1:21:34] your arena documents are just a [1:21:36] concept that you can't really [1:21:38] execute on. So we're looking [1:21:39] for some assistance there. And [1:21:41] maybe the sb 375 exercise will [1:21:42] help provide some clarity on [1:21:44] that. So that concludes my [1:21:46] report. And I think the [1:21:47] trapdoor is going to open if i [1:21:49] go longer. So I'll take any [1:21:51] questions. Director Lavagnino [1:21:52] thank you, MR. Chair. So I want [1:21:54] to go back to the gas tax [1:21:56] because seems like a lot of [1:21:57] concern in the community. And I [1:21:59] think a lot of it is there's [1:22:02] just because it just gets a lot [1:22:03] of misinformation out there [1:22:06] right away. So first off, how [1:22:07] much per gallon are we paying [1:22:09] just in like a state gas tax, [1:22:12] sb one attached to it. So all [1:22:14] in it and it's adjusted for [1:22:15] inflation. Every single year we [1:22:20] pay 61.2 cents. And then if [1:22:22] we're talking about a vmt or [1:22:24] what I like better is your idea [1:22:26] of a registration. And I'd like [1:22:28] to see how far that idea is if [1:22:29] that's getting any traction. [1:22:33] But is that in lieu of or in [1:22:34] addition to the $0.61 that [1:22:36] we're paying the the road user [1:22:38] charge or vmt charge would be [1:22:40] in lieu of the gas tax. And so [1:22:41] currently it's being tested at [1:22:43] two and a half cents. That was [1:22:45] the most recent pilot. And so [1:22:47] it's the gas tax generates [1:22:50] about $8.1 billion per year. So [1:22:51] that's the nut that they have [1:22:52] to kind of crack right. Going [1:22:54] forward. Kind of got to work it [1:22:55] backwards a little bit. Yes [1:22:57] okay. So I mean there's a lot [1:22:58] of reasons and I've heard a lot [1:23:01] of them why vmt is is just kind [1:23:04] of a bad tool. It kind of just [1:23:06] it's a disadvantage to people [1:23:07] in rural communities, those [1:23:09] types of things. So I like the [1:23:13] idea of, of of moving to it. So [1:23:15] how would the registration EVs [1:23:16] they register the same? I don't [1:23:18] have one, but they register the [1:23:20] same as every other car. Yeah. [1:23:22] So what currently happens is [1:23:23] it's called the transportation [1:23:25] improvement fee. So there's [1:23:27] it's a tiered flat fee based on [1:23:29] the valuation of your vehicle. [1:23:30] And so I think it's gone up. [1:23:32] It's like $33 if your car is [1:23:34] worth less than 5000, which is [1:23:36] about 41% of all cars in the [1:23:38] state, believe it or not. And [1:23:40] then another 30% are cars that [1:23:42] are 25,000 or less. They pay [1:23:45] about $66, and so only 3% of [1:23:46] cars in the state are worth [1:23:49] over $60,000. And so but cars [1:23:50] depreciate, so you pay less. [1:23:51] But that revenue source has [1:23:53] been going up because it's [1:23:55] indexed for inflation. So in [1:23:57] 2018 it generated 1.7 billion. [1:24:00] And now it generates over $2.5 [1:24:01] billion. The electric vehicles. [1:24:02] It's interesting how those are [1:24:04] treated. So in Senate Bill one [1:24:06] there was a new fee they pay in [1:24:07] addition to the registration [1:24:09] fee, a fee just for electric [1:24:11] vehicles. And so there's about [1:24:13] 2.5 million, but not all of [1:24:16] them pay it. It was all it was [1:24:19] cars after 2020. And there were [1:24:21] about 700,000 of them in [1:24:24] existence before 2020. And so [1:24:27] that's about $121 annually that [1:24:28] they pay. So I think there's a [1:24:30] way to just have all 32 million [1:24:33] cars pay. Or if you wanted to [1:24:35] do it by by driver, I guess you [1:24:36] could do that. But it's [1:24:37] probably better per vehicle. [1:24:39] And then it would reduce the [1:24:40] amount if you convert over from [1:24:42] what people currently pay from [1:24:43] a gas tax. And the current [1:24:44] registration fee is, is there [1:24:46] anything out there that tells [1:24:47] you what the average person [1:24:49] pays in gas tax year? I'm just [1:24:50] trying to think of how many [1:24:52] gallons I go through and what [1:24:53] that would look like on a [1:24:54] registration. So the rough, the [1:24:56] rough math is and I'd have to [1:24:58] defer to Caltrans or to others, [1:25:00] but all we can go off of is [1:25:03] what's published. So the [1:25:04] California Department of Tax [1:25:05] and Fee Administration [1:25:06] publishes the amount that's [1:25:08] generated for the gas tax. And [1:25:09] then the Energy Commission [1:25:10] publishes the amount of gallons. [1:25:12] And so the rough estimate is [1:25:18] that it's about $291 per driver [1:25:21] and per vehicle. It's about [1:25:25] $270 or so. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. [1:25:27] The only I like the [1:25:29] registration idea. I mean, [1:25:30] theoretically your gas prices [1:25:32] would drop, but then you'd also [1:25:34] but in lieu of that, you're [1:25:36] being hit with this other fee. [1:25:38] I'm curious if there's any talk [1:25:39] of the thing is, when you're [1:25:40] buying gas, you're buying it [1:25:42] once a week or whatever, you [1:25:44] spread it out as opposed to you [1:25:45] get this big bill one at, you [1:25:47] know, in APRIL and it says, hey, [1:25:49] you owe x. I could see that [1:25:51] being a problem for people, but [1:25:52] I'm sure they're looking at [1:25:54] that. They are. And I think the [1:25:56] method of collection, I think [1:25:57] is to be determined. But [1:25:58] there's nothing to preclude the [1:25:59] legislature from saying, hey, [1:26:00] let's collect this monthly. I [1:26:02] think that was the intention [1:26:03] with the road user charge. [1:26:05] That's going to be a little bit [1:26:07] trickier. I think just some of [1:26:08] the backlash has been, well, [1:26:09] it's a privacy concern. People [1:26:11] don't really want the [1:26:12] transponder. Although our cell [1:26:14] phones and our cars have gps. I [1:26:15] think it's just it's more overt [1:26:17] for some. So legislators [1:26:18] haven't wanted to touch that. [1:26:20] It is a fairness issue, the [1:26:22] rural versus urban dynamic, you [1:26:24] know, that kind of a thing. But [1:26:25] so where are we at on this? I [1:26:26] mean, like what's kind of [1:26:28] timeline or is it just going to [1:26:30] fade away and we're going to be [1:26:32] paying gas tax? My fear, my [1:26:33] fear is that there has been [1:26:34] misinformation about the road [1:26:36] user charge. Doing nothing is [1:26:37] the absolute worst option, [1:26:39] because we're projected to lose [1:26:41] about $5 billion in gas tax [1:26:43] revenue over the next decade. [1:26:44] So we have to do something. And [1:26:46] if we don't do something under [1:26:47] this current administration, [1:26:48] which I know it's his last year [1:26:50] governor, Governor Newsom, the [1:26:52] new governor, is going to not [1:26:53] going to want to do this in [1:26:55] their first year, either. It's [1:26:56] going to take a while and who [1:26:58] knows what their priorities are [1:26:59] going to be. So, you know, [1:27:01] we're happy to come back and [1:27:02] give more of a deeper dive, you [1:27:06] know, on this. But I think the [1:27:07] Road User Task force has been [1:27:09] looking at this for 12 years, [1:27:10] and they haven't moved the [1:27:11] needle on the conversation. So [1:27:13] it's time to look at different [1:27:14] alternatives. And we already [1:27:15] collect the vehicle [1:27:16] registration fee. And it's not [1:27:17] something that you really hear [1:27:19] much about. And again cars [1:27:20] depreciate so you wind up [1:27:21] paying less which is kind of [1:27:23] the beauty of it. So it's [1:27:24] progressive and there's a way [1:27:26] for people to save especially [1:27:28] on the lower end. So it kind of [1:27:30] checks the box on affordability. [1:27:32] Thanks. Of course, Director [1:27:35] Mosby, I'd be more apt to [1:27:38] support a vmt. I have eight [1:27:40] vehicles that I have, but each [1:27:41] vehicle is used for different [1:27:43] purposes and different reasons. [1:27:45] They have it so you'd be paying [1:27:48] an increased dmv charge for [1:27:49] registering a vehicle that's [1:27:52] parked, you know, six out of [1:27:56] seven days. It's kind of a I [1:27:57] guess you can blame it because [1:27:59] somebody has the ability to own [1:28:00] more vehicles. That's more fair [1:28:03] to to burden them than somebody [1:28:04] who's actually using the roads [1:28:05] in the driving. And like you [1:28:08] say, the vehicles are already [1:28:09] watched significantly all the [1:28:12] way around. So one of the [1:28:13] aspects that you didn't put up [1:28:14] there, some states are able to [1:28:16] build asphalt for significantly [1:28:18] less. I think Texas was, what, [1:28:21] three a third as much per mile [1:28:23] or something. I'm trying to [1:28:25] remember my visit there, but I [1:28:27] mean, if you could maybe find [1:28:29] ways to be call it efficiency [1:28:32] or whatever it is, but other [1:28:33] states are able to do this and [1:28:35] save a significant amount of [1:28:39] money by. Multiple different [1:28:41] ways. And that wasn't one of [1:28:42] your things is how can we how [1:28:44] can we do it more efficiently? [1:28:45] What is their trigger there to [1:28:48] be able to do it? I know a lot [1:28:49] of the answer that's there, but [1:28:51] people hate to say that as many [1:28:52] times we spend more money [1:28:53] studying a problem than fixing [1:28:56] the problem. And like you [1:28:56] mentioned, sometimes it can [1:28:59] take ten years to get a project [1:29:01] up and going. And again, we [1:29:03] just sit there and study, study, [1:29:05] study. Or I've seen it. When we [1:29:06] send people out to study a [1:29:07] project, you might have 15 [1:29:09] people coming out looking at [1:29:10] the white line on a street, but [1:29:12] maybe there's ways that we can [1:29:13] get more efficient with this [1:29:14] and save a significant amount [1:29:17] of money. Right? Yeah, I think [1:29:19] the legislature's open. They [1:29:20] don't have a good solution. And [1:29:23] so they're open. It's just so [1:29:24] far the road user charges has [1:29:26] not resonated. It hasn't had [1:29:29] any any traction. So but doing [1:29:30] nothing is absolutely the worst [1:29:35] option. Any questions down in [1:29:41] Santa Barbara. Okay. So just [1:29:43] aside from that, MR. Vice Chair, [1:29:44] we look forward to hosting you [1:29:46] on MARCH 18th for the Central [1:29:48] Coast Coalition Legislative day. [1:29:49] So we go up to Sacramento every [1:29:51] single year. We work with Santa [1:29:53] Cruz on down to meet with, you [1:29:54] know, the entire delegation, [1:29:56] and we'll meet with the policy [1:29:57] committee chairs and such. And [1:29:59] so look forward to having a [1:30:00] productive day. Thank you so [1:30:03] much. All right. So we talked [1:30:05] about the actions before you [1:30:06] today. So it's approving the [1:30:08] state and federal legislative [1:30:09] platforms. We can certainly [1:30:11] follow up with some additional [1:30:12] opportunities for the board. If [1:30:14] you want to do a deep dive a [1:30:16] little bit more on the road [1:30:17] user charge and some things [1:30:20] that are happening around there, [1:30:22] and then with that, looking to [1:30:24] get some authorization from you [1:30:26] for to sign on to the state [1:30:28] federal reauthorization [1:30:30] principles. And that's before [1:30:32] you. Thank you very much. Is [1:30:33] there any public comment on [1:30:35] this item? There are any [1:30:36] members of the public on the [1:30:38] zoom webinar who wish to speak? [1:30:39] Please use the raise Hand [1:30:41] feature, and I will call upon [1:30:45] you. We did not receive any [1:30:47] public comment for this item in [1:30:48] advance, and there are no [1:30:50] attendees on zoom who wish to [1:30:51] speak. Okay, we'll bring it [1:30:53] back to the board for [1:30:54] discussion and a possible [1:31:02] motion. Not hearing much [1:31:04] discussion. Is there anyone who [1:31:05] would like to make a motion? [1:31:07] I'll move one through four. In [1:31:10] today's staff report, I have a [1:31:11] first from Director Hartman. Do [1:31:14] we have a second? Second with [1:31:15] the second from Director Patino? [1:31:17] If we could do a roll call. [1:31:19] Vote, please. Director Perrotti [1:31:22] I, director Patino. I director [1:31:27] Mosby I director Lee I director [1:31:29] lavagnino. Director. Julian. [1:31:31] Director. Hartman. Director. [1:31:35] Friedman I director Clark. I [1:31:38] director. Capps I. Director. [1:31:41] Brown. I, vice chair. Silva and [1:31:43] chair. Nelson is absent. Motion [1:31:45] passes. Wonderful. We'll now [1:31:47] move on to our executive [1:31:48] director report by Director [1:31:49] Kern. Thank you, MR. Vice [1:31:50] Chairperson, members of the [1:31:53] board. First of all, I want to [1:31:54] thank you for approving the [1:31:55] Intercity passenger Rail [1:31:57] Service agreement. This is a [1:31:59] major accomplishment for this [1:32:01] agency. And I also want to [1:32:02] acknowledge the major [1:32:03] accomplishment of the [1:32:05] multimodal divisional staff. [1:32:07] Aaron Bonfiglio couldn't make [1:32:09] it today. He's in la for a [1:32:10] meeting on the Low Sand [1:32:12] Corridor working group, so he [1:32:14] felt he needed to represent sb [1:32:15] cag down there. But Whitney [1:32:17] Rush has been actively involved [1:32:19] in the the development of the [1:32:21] agreements and the negotiations [1:32:22] throughout. So I just really [1:32:24] want to thank them for all [1:32:26] their efforts to get us to this [1:32:28] place. It's been a long, [1:32:30] frustrating road, but the [1:32:31] change in direction just [1:32:33] happened a few months ago, and [1:32:35] here we are today approving [1:32:37] this new agreement and [1:32:38] hopefully starting rail service [1:32:39] in the next month or so. So [1:32:41] thank you. Thank you for that. [1:32:43] I also want to thank Gus and [1:32:44] Don for their presentations and [1:32:46] their work representing sb, cag [1:32:48] at the state and federal level. [1:32:50] We have two legislative visits [1:32:51] coming up, which they mentioned [1:32:52] the first in Sacramento with [1:32:55] the Central Coast Coalition and [1:32:57] director, excuse me, vice Chair [1:32:58] Silva has volunteered [1:32:59] graciously, graciously [1:33:01] volunteered to represent sb cag [1:33:03] on that day. So thank you for [1:33:05] committing to that trip. And [1:33:08] then our dc trip with Chair [1:33:09] Nelson, Vice Chair Silva and [1:33:10] Director Rouse will happen as [1:33:13] well. Later this month, Cal cog [1:33:14] is hosting the Regional [1:33:16] Leadership Forum in MARCH as [1:33:18] well, and Director Pitino is [1:33:19] representing sb cag on this [1:33:21] board, so she'll be attending [1:33:22] the board meeting as well as [1:33:24] attending the conference itself. [1:33:27] And then last but not least, [1:33:29] measure a citizens advisory [1:33:31] committee will be meeting on [1:33:32] MARCH 4th to review the annual [1:33:34] report and an update on the [1:33:35] train schedule and from Ventura [1:33:38] to Goleta. So it will be a very [1:33:40] full agenda. And MARCH is going [1:33:44] to be a very busy month for us. [1:33:45] So with that, I'll pass it over [1:33:48] to the chair. Vice chair, thank [1:33:51] you very much. Caltrans [1:33:54] Director of Planning and Modal. [1:33:56] Thank you. Chair or vice chair [1:33:58] and directors brandy rider. [1:34:00] Just for the record planning [1:34:03] and modal deputy for district [1:34:04] five. I just really have only [1:34:05] one announcement today. [1:34:08] Caltrans recently announced a [1:34:09] $25 million Community Cleanup [1:34:11] and Employment Pathways grant. [1:34:14] We had four awards in district [1:34:17] five and one award here in [1:34:18] Santa Barbara County with [1:34:21] Guadalupe received about [1:34:24] 280,000 for a City of Guadalupe [1:34:25] beautification project. So [1:34:28] we're excited to see a local [1:34:30] agency get that funding. And [1:34:31] with that, I don't really have [1:34:33] any other updates, but I'd be [1:34:34] happy to answer any questions [1:34:40] of the board. Any questions? [1:34:44] Anyone in Santa Barbara? All [1:34:46] right, we're moving right along. [1:34:49] Okay. Next up, we will go to [1:34:51] our committee meeting. Report [1:34:52] updates. Director Patino, do we [1:34:54] have anything from Cal Cog? Yes. [1:34:56] Thank you very much. This is my [1:35:00] first meeting and there was an [1:35:02] exploration of establishing a [1:35:05] 500 and 1c3. It's right now it [1:35:07] operates with 500 1c4. And so [1:35:09] there was discussion and [1:35:10] information on that. We [1:35:12] discussed the regional [1:35:14] leadership forum which will be [1:35:15] coming up MARCH 11th, ninth [1:35:18] through 11th and got an update [1:35:20] on the state legislature, which [1:35:23] is what we're talking about, a [1:35:24] 2.9 billion deficit. We'll see [1:35:28] what the MAY revise is. Then we [1:35:31] had a brief discussion on sb [1:35:33] 375. Today was much more [1:35:34] clarified. Thank you, MR. [1:35:37] Becker, for that. And then [1:35:38] they're looking for a vice [1:35:40] PRESIDENT Nomination and nobody [1:35:41] volunteered. And that's about [1:35:45] it. Thank you. Great. Okay. And [1:35:46] then we'll go to Director [1:35:47] Perrotti to provide an update [1:35:51] on Lausanne. Thank you, vice [1:35:53] Chair Silva. Well, the main [1:35:56] topic of that meeting was the [1:35:59] extended rail service. And it [1:36:00] was met with a lot of [1:36:04] excitement and and positive [1:36:06] responses. We also talked a [1:36:08] little bit about we got a [1:36:12] briefing on the draft business [1:36:14] plan. I was able to get in two [1:36:17] edits and it'll come back for a [1:36:19] vote next, next meeting. And [1:36:22] the edits were that we would [1:36:27] make sure that was critical to. [1:36:31] The and the critical need for [1:36:35] service to continue via state [1:36:37] support. So we we talked about [1:36:39] making sure that that was in [1:36:40] there, that the necessary [1:36:42] funding from state be provided [1:36:45] to ensure we have not have to [1:36:49] reduce service and risk long [1:36:51] losing out on the benefits of [1:36:53] that. This particular service [1:36:56] will provide to San Luis from [1:36:58] la to San Luis Obispo, [1:37:00] especially with the Olympics, [1:37:02] you know, coming. So it does [1:37:04] benefit the whole corridor. So [1:37:06] that was that's end of my [1:37:08] report. Thank you very much, [1:37:09] director and director Perotti, [1:37:11] for those reports. We'll now go [1:37:12] to any one minute reports. [1:37:13] Anyone have anything they'd [1:37:16] like to. Oh doctor Julian I do [1:37:19] three three quick items. One is [1:37:20] thank you Caltrans for the for [1:37:21] the funding. It's very [1:37:23] important to us. And then [1:37:25] Senator Schiff was here in [1:37:26] Guadalupe and other other areas, [1:37:28] and they helped support the [1:37:29] learning center in Guadalupe [1:37:31] and also the senior center. And [1:37:33] then lastly, I'd like to thank [1:37:35] Lauren and Margie for braving [1:37:38] the winter, the snowstorm, the [1:37:39] hurricanes to meet with me this [1:37:40] morning. So appreciate that [1:37:43] update. Okay. Thank you. [1:37:44] Director Patino, did you have [1:37:46] an update you wanted? No I do [1:37:49] okay, perfect I. Director Mosby. [1:37:51] Yeah. Just will probably [1:37:53] announce we're in Lompoc. Going [1:37:56] to try to put a half cent [1:37:59] asphalt tax on me, MR. Anti-tax, [1:38:00] but we're reaching out trying [1:38:02] to piggyback and piggyback [1:38:04] match what you guys and your [1:38:06] success that you did with MR. A, [1:38:07] and we have $70 million of [1:38:09] deferred maintenance in our [1:38:11] town with the pci. I think [1:38:13] we're like 54. I mean, it's [1:38:15] just falling and falling. So we [1:38:17] have to do something and I will [1:38:18] brag about the successes and [1:38:20] the leveraging that you've done [1:38:23] with MR. Right now, the county [1:38:24] is trying to give me measure a [1:38:26] on this for the ballot. And I'm [1:38:28] like, no, no, give us something [1:38:29] else. Right? I mean, I don't [1:38:31] want to steal your thunder and [1:38:32] stuff, but if any of the [1:38:34] directors want to get on board [1:38:35] and help support that, it can [1:38:37] help me sell this measure. I'd [1:38:38] appreciate it, Director Hartman. [1:38:39] Oh, just a question. So, is it [1:38:41] a special tax or general [1:38:43] general tax? Special tax for [1:38:45] asphalt sidewalks and storm [1:38:47] drains. That's a supermajority, [1:38:50] right? Yes. Two thirds like you [1:38:53] got 79% that you passed with [1:38:55] MISS Reyes. I think we have a [1:38:56] really good chance. When I [1:38:57] pulled it out, 80% of the [1:38:59] people felt a need to fix the [1:39:00] streets in town. It's driven [1:39:02] down enough that it. I think we [1:39:04] have a really good chance to do [1:39:06] this. I don't trust City Hall [1:39:07] with a general tax. We we did [1:39:09] that already and they already [1:39:12] spent all the money. So thank [1:39:13] you very much. Are there any [1:39:15] one minute reports down in [1:39:20] Santa Barbara? I do Perotti. [1:39:23] I'd just like to report that [1:39:24] the two roundabouts that are [1:39:27] part of the Project Connect are [1:39:29] scheduled to open to traffic by [1:39:31] the the morning of MARCH the [1:39:34] 2nd. And I only laugh because I [1:39:36] think our phones will start [1:39:38] ringing again. But we're doing [1:39:40] a massive outreach to help [1:39:42] people understand how you [1:39:44] navigate. If you've never done [1:39:45] a roundabout or a double lane [1:39:47] roundabout, how you navigate [1:39:49] that. So but we're looking [1:39:52] forward to it finally becoming [1:39:55] available. Thank you. All right. [1:39:58] Anyone else in Santa Barbara? [1:39:59] Okay. Well then we the next [1:40:01] meeting will be MARCH 19th, [1:40:03] 2026, in Santa Barbara. And we [1:40:04] will adjourn this meeting at [1:40:05] this time. Thank you all for [1:40:23] your time. Thank you.