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All right, everybody, good

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morning. Welcome. Thank you for

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joining us for today's JANUARY

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15th meeting of the sba board.

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For the record, my name is Bob

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Olson. I am the chair of sb

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2026. MADAM Clerk, please

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facilitate the roll call.

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Director Rouse here. Director.

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Perotti here. Director. Patino

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here. Director. Mosby here.

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Director. Lee here. Director.

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Lavagnino. Director. Julian.

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Here. Director. Hartman here.

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Director. Clerk. Director.

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Capps here. Director. Brown

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here. Vice chair. Silva and

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chair Nelson here for you all.

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Please stand and join me to

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pledge allegiance to the flag.

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Ready to begin. I pledge

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allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America. And

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to the Republic for which it

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stands. One nation under GOD,

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indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all. Okay. Right to

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public comment. This is a

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public comment period for items

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not on today's agenda. Speakers

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have up to three minutes each

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with a total of 15 minutes

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allotted for public comment.

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MADAM Clerk, do we have any

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public comment here today? Yes.

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There are two requests to speak

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forms and for any members of

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the public on the zoom webinar,

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if you wish to speak, would you

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please use the raise Hand

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feature and I will call upon

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you. Our first speaker is Scott

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Wentz. Cars are sick. Welcome

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MR. Wentz. Happy New Year

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MISTER Chair. Members of the

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board Scott was representing

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Kaiser again. Happy New Year to

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all of you. I'm here to address

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the issue of Caltrans NOVEMBER

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comment about 154 and 246 cars

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are basic. Really, really

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objected to this. That was a

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project that was ill advised,

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has hurt people, had multiple

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damage, just had another

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rollover accident. There was an

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injection. This is a roundabout

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that has to be taken out

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because Caltrans played

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political games out of

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Sacramento. We have to have a

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roundabout. We gave Caltrans an

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alternative that would have

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cost him $650,000. It would

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have taken away the visual

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issue that was at that

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intersection, and it would have

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been worked fine. This has to

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stop the city of Lompoc and the

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city of Solvang using their

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sphere of influence, said to

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Caltrans. We do not want this

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roundabout here. You have more

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traffic, more commercial

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traffic on this road. Now,

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whenever Gaviota gets cut off,

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boom. Guess what? They come

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over. 154 you have the

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expansion of the casino. You

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have the expansion of of of

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residents in the area. This

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cannot continue and wait until

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the two reservation starts

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doing as Camp Ford. That is

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going to really add a lot of

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there. It was badly designed.

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It's badly run. Caltrans just

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admitted in NOVEMBER that they

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were going to fix the problem

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by doing more striping and

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putting lighting on there. You

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can't fix bad design. You can't

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fix what causes accidents. And

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this goes to the same thing

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that we have to say about La

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Purisima. You know, you already

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killed one firefighter over

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there under difficult

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circumstances, the people of

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the valley did not want this.

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Let me repeat that again. For

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anybody listening, the people

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of Valley did not want that

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roundabout. That roundabout has

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proven to be an absolute

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disaster. You need to use your

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authority and press on the

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state of California to get that

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damn thing out of there. And

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we'll give you our design,

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because Ceqa says if you have

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an alternative design that

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meets 90% of the issue you have,

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the government has to do that.

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Guess what? They played the

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forefinger discount. That's

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what they told cab. And that's

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what's causing the accidents in

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the valley. Thank you. Thank

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you, MR. Wentz. Our next

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speaker is Karen Hammerstein.

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Hello, County leaders, Karen

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Hauenstein from North County. I

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am born and raised in Lompoc

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and I live there now. I am here

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as a matter of public record,

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placing you on notice and

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informing you in 2023 inside

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the Lompoc Police Department,

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we had a suspicious death that

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has not yet been fully

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investigated. There's been an

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official complaint made to the

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police officer standards and

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training. You need to be aware

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of that and follow it through

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to its completion. Liliana

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Cecilia Zuniga. She was an

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abused woman who needs to be

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remembered by this county more

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than any other people who are

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just passing through. Karen.

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One second. MADAM Clerk, will

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you pause public comment for a

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moment? Karen, public comment

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when it comes to sb, cag needs

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to be on issues that are under

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our jurisdiction. Public safety

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in our county. We're

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transportation

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multi-jurisdictional agency for

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transportation. Okay. So so

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let's try to get our comments

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to something that's under the

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jurisdiction of this

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organization. I mean, what you

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had would have been perfect. So

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that would be okay. I'm just

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placing that on record. Yeah.

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Okay. Because you guys are the

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leaders of our county.

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Understood. But I want to focus

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general public comment. Okay.

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So then the under the

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jurisdiction of this body okay.

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So the the bridges across the

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Santa Ynez River that were

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promised to Lompoc to connect

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and start public comment again.

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Thank you. That would be for

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this place. Yes. Okay. Well,

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thank you for also letting me

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use the public comment to lodge

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my complaints and make sure

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they're followed up on publicly.

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Happy New year. Happy New year.

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If there are any other members

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of the public on the zoom

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webinar who wish to speak,

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would you please use the Raise

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Hand feature and I will call

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upon you. There are no speakers.

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All right. Well, that concludes

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public comment. That brings us

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to our consent calendar. MADAM

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Clerk, are there any changes to

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the consent calendar? There are

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no changes to the consent

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calendar. And there are no

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announcements for the consent

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calendar. All right. Are there

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any items on the consent

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calendar that members or

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directors would like to pull? I

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know that supervisor or sorry

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Director Hartman has pulled g.

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Anything else not seen up here

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in Santa Barbara? In Santa

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Maria? Are there any items that

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you wish to pull? I'd like to

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pull a okay, so that would be

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the approval of the minutes. So

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for Pitino and that's just

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that's just to to vote to

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abstain from them. That's not a

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discussion. Thank you, Director

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Pitino. We'll go ahead and make

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sure we have a separate vote on

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that. MADAM Clerk, is there any

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members of the public pulling

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any items on the consent

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calendar? Are there any members

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of the public on the zoom

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webinar who wish to speak? If

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so, please use the raise Hand

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feature and I will call upon

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you. There are no requests to

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speak. There is one in North

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County that is for right in 166.

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Which which item is that? That

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is later on in the agenda. Okay.

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Understand? Thank you. Before I

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move to ask for a motion

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supervisor Hartman, are you

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looking potentially for a

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separate vote on g or just want

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to pull it to discuss that?

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a motion at least on the

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minutes. So if I can get a

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motion on item a, which is the

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approval of the minutes, the

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last motion to approve okay.

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Motion. Motion from Silva, a

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second from Perotti. MADAM

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Clerk, please do a roll call.

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Director. Rousse. Director.

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Perotti. Director. Pitino.

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Abstain. Director. Mosby. Hi.

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Lavagnino. Director. Julian. Hi.

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Director. Hartman. Director.

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Clerk. Director. Capps.

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Director. Brown. Vice chair.

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Silva and chair. Nelson, I. I

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assume the motion passes. All

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right, let's go ahead. And

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before I make a motion for the

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balance, let's go ahead and

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read into the record the item

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that's been pulled by

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supervisor department. If if

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it's everything's fine with

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that, then we'll just take a

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motion for the balance of the

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agenda. After that, Santa Ynez

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River valley, Santa Ynez Valley

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River trail contractor

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agreement to approve an

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authorized executive director

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to execute an agreement with

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Psomas similar to the attached

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and based upon review and

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concurrence by legal counsel

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for planning and engineering

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work associated with the Santa

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Ynez River trail project in an

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amount not to exceed of 796 638,

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with a period of performance

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extending between execution of

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the agreement and DECEMBER 31st,

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2028. To authorize the

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Executive Director to approve

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immaterial amendments to the

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agreement. All right, Director

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Hartman, thank you. So I have

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several questions. The first

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has to do with timing. I see

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that it's this is expected to

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be done in two years. And I

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just wondered how that fits

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with the the atp grant state.

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We're trying to get this done

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to fit into the cycle for atp.

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And I, I think then we got to

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wait what, another two years or

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just Director Hartman, the atp

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cycle and you can correct me if

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I'm wrong, is accepting

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applications this summer for

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the next cycle. And then it's

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every two years. So two years

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from this coming summer would

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be the next cycle, which would

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be the one that would be aiming

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for for this project. Okay. So

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so that fits. And then first of

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all, I'm just really excited to

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see this. Let me the next

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question has to do with the

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federal grant and how that

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would fit with this contract.

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Very good question, Director

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Hartman. The federal grant was

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awarded to the Chumash Indians

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in the amount of $1.4 million,

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and it has a required match,

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which is this project. The

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match is what we're doing now.

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So we have been coordinating

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with the tribe. The tribe has

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been approached by the Federal

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Highway Administration, the

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grantor, and there's the

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current state is we've worked,

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Fred Luna and I, to work on the

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agreement between the tribe and

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FHWa. That goes back to FHWa.

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And once it's agreed upon, then

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the funds that agreement will

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run up the chain at FHWa for

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execution on their side. And

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assuming it does become

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executed, I think there's no

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guarantee but that right now it

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looks likely. Then in all

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likelihood, sba will take on

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the work for that, just as we

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did, because part of today's

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action is to approve an

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agreement with the contractor.

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But part of the funding behind

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that was awarded to the tribe,

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and it was probably about four

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months ago. We came and had an

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agreement between sb tribe for

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sb, kg to take on management of

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that grant, and that's what we

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expect to happen for this one

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as well. So when we advertise

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the work, there are a variety

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of optional tasks included in

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the agreement, which are the

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ones that would be filled in

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with the federal grant. So does

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it seem like this contractor

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would take it on or. We're not

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sure yet? That's a good

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question. Supervisor Hartman or

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Director Hartman, assuming we

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can negotiate in good faith

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with the contractor and come to

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an agreement on price. So it's

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part of today's agreement, says

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that the contractor would have

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to honor the same hourly rates

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that they're doing for the work

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that hopefully gets approved

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today. So if we can come to an

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agreement, we can amend it into

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the contract. Otherwise we'd go

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back out to bid for those

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optional tasks. So so we MAY

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just fold it in and not have to

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go out again through the

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process. If, if they can, if

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and once again if there's a

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there's a lot of moving pieces

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with this. One of them is that

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that grant award is federal.

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And all the other money that

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we've had to this point is

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either state or local, and

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there's different contracting

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requirements. So we would have

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to ensure that the ph is

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allowing us to to go this route.

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Otherwise we'd have to go out

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to bid to. I see okay. Thank

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you. And my final question, as

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I look to the environmental

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piece and the contract, it

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doesn't make any mention of the

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recreation master plan eir,

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which was designed to be

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programmatic and to tear off.

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So how will that work? Another

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great question, Director

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Hartman, for the environmental.

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So the agreement that's being

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approved today is a work

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package. One is 100% of the

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environmental work within the

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city of Buellton. So at the

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conclusion of this project, the

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trail will be construction

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ready for city of Buellton.

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Outside of the city, the

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environmental work is an

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optional task, and we are also

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we're paying attention to the

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county's process of the

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recreation Master plan. And

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when that is approved, then we

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could tear off of it. We can't

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tear off of in anticipation of

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it being approved. But that is

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certainly something that we are

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keeping our eyes on as this

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goes forward. It's coming soon.

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Thank you. And thank you for.

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And then the person for sb, k

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who is the contact for this for

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this work isn't your friend. Is

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that typical? No, it's Tom Vo

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who's sitting right back here.

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Tom works in planning Division

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under me. Okay, I'll be

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involved. Fred will be involved

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because this is a mix of

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planning and engineering. It's,

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you know, perhaps I can't be a

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good advisor on engineering

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aspect. And Fred can't be a

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good advisor on the planning

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aspect. So it's a team. And

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Tom's going to keep us

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organized and pointing in the

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right direction. Okay. Well,

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again, I'm I'm absolutely

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delighted to see this. Thank

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you. All right. Thank you,

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Director Patino, any other

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questions from board members?

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Public comment item item g, are

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there any members of the public

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on the zoom webinar who wish to

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speak on item g? Please use the

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raise hand feature and I will

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call upon you. There are no

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paper requests to speak forms

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and there are no attendees who

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wish to speak. Okay, supervisor

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Director Hartman, no reason for

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a different vote on that. So

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with that, I could get a motion

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for the balance of the agenda,

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which would be items four b

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through four. I moved by Brown.

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I need a second, second, second

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from Hartman. Can we please do

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a roll call? Vote. Director.

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Rouse. Director. Perotti.

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Director. Patino. I director.

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Mosby. Hey, director. Lee. Hi.

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Director. Lavagnino. Director.

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Julian. Hi. Director. Hartman,

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I director. Clark. Director.

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Capps. Director. Brown. Vice

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chair. Silva and chair. Nelson.

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Hi. Motion passes. All right.

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Thank you. We'll go ahead and

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move on to the discussion items.

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Item five a MADAM Clerk, will

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you please read that item to

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the record? Item five a sb 2026

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Committee appointments

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recommended actions one.

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Appoint one delegate an

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alternate to the California

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Association of Councils of

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Governments to appoint one

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delegate and an alternate to

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the Los Angeles, San Diego, San

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Luis Obispo Rail Corridor.

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Agency three appoint one

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delegate and alternate to the

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Coast Rail Coordinating Council.

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For appoint one member and one

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alternate to the Board of

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Directors. Five appoint members

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to the highway 154 Safety

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Committee six appoint members

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to the Executive Committee

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chair, vice chair, immediate

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past chair and chairs of North

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County and South Coast Regional

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seven. Appoint an sb, k board

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delegate to participate in the

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Central Coast Coalition.

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Sacramento Legislative Advocacy

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Day scheduled for MARCH 17th

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and 18th, 2026. Eight appoint

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the sb, k chair, Vice Chair and

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immediate past chair to serve

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as the Washington, dc

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legislative delegation

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representing sb kegs interest

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in Washington, dc the week of

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MARCH 23rd, 2026. All right.

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Thank you. So let's go.

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Director Kern, Liana went

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through the list of

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appointments. This is your

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annual chance to appoint your

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yourself or others to

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committees that meet throughout

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the year. I'd be happy to

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answer any questions about

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about the appointments or the

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committees, if you have any.

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But otherwise, normally we just

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go through the committees and

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ask for volunteers. Okay, great.

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Thank you. Thank you, Director

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Kern. And typically, you know,

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a lot of these committees,

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there's a bit of value in

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having some background in it.

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So those that are already in it

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are often, you know, favored by

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the board because they've got

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some that experience there.

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Although this is also the time

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for somebody that says, hey,

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that's something I would be

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interested in in the future. So

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it's also good for us to know

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that this is our opportunity to

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have those conversations. We'll

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go ahead and start off with Cal

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Cog. I'm the regular member and

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director. Patino is the

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alternate there this year. I

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have quite a bit of work on my

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on my calendar already on

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chairing this and other things

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throughout. I've talked to

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Director Silva about

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potentially being the regular

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member, and I think he's

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interested in that. I don't

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know if Director Patino would

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like to stay on as alternate

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for that. I'm happy to move to

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alternate position if she

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doesn't want that, but I'd be

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happy to let her stay there as

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well. Director Nelson, I would

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I would like to be the member

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on that because I've been the

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alternate. Okay, so. And maybe

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Director Silva would take the

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alternate. That works for me.

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That sounds great. So any other

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not seeing anybody jump up and

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down here. Thank you, Director

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Patino for jumping up on that

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down in Santa Maria. And again,

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if any of these items that

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you're interested in Santa

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Maria, please don't hesitate to

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00:34:08,927 --> 00:34:11,195
to to speak up. The next item

564
00:34:11,195 --> 00:34:14,795
here is Lausanne. I believe we

565
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,269
got here. And currently we have,

566
00:34:18,269 --> 00:34:19,704
I believe, director and

567
00:34:19,704 --> 00:34:21,940
Director Lee as the regular

568
00:34:21,940 --> 00:34:23,374
alternate members. Are you both?

569
00:34:23,374 --> 00:34:25,142
I'd like to stay on Lausanne.

570
00:34:25,142 --> 00:34:27,212
I'm happy as alternate. Okay.

571
00:34:27,212 --> 00:34:28,713
Great. Seeing no objection,

572
00:34:28,713 --> 00:34:30,615
we'll keep moving on to the

573
00:34:30,615 --> 00:34:31,983
Crcc, which is the Coast Rail

574
00:34:31,983 --> 00:34:33,918
Coordinating Council. Currently

575
00:34:33,918 --> 00:34:35,353
we have Director Rousse. And as

576
00:34:35,353 --> 00:34:37,222
the regular member and director

577
00:34:37,222 --> 00:34:38,923
Brown as the alternate. I'm

578
00:34:38,923 --> 00:34:40,658
fine with the status quo. Okay,

579
00:34:40,658 --> 00:34:42,293
we got some thumbs up up here.

580
00:34:42,293 --> 00:34:44,629
Everybody good down there?

581
00:34:44,629 --> 00:34:46,331
Looks like it. Moving on to the

582
00:34:46,331 --> 00:34:47,532
California Vanpool Authority

583
00:34:47,532 --> 00:34:49,932
Caravans. Currently I'm a

584
00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:51,102
regular appointed member and

585
00:34:51,102 --> 00:34:52,769
director Julian is the

586
00:34:52,769 --> 00:34:55,139
alternate. It's a preference

587
00:34:55,139 --> 00:34:56,241
for me to stay on that. I am on

588
00:34:56,241 --> 00:34:57,308
the executive committee. I have

589
00:34:57,308 --> 00:34:59,142
stepped away from being the

590
00:34:59,142 --> 00:35:00,311
vice chair, which I had been

591
00:35:00,311 --> 00:35:01,479
for the last couple of years,

592
00:35:01,479 --> 00:35:02,547
but we're going through some

593
00:35:02,547 --> 00:35:04,348
major changes of management,

594
00:35:04,348 --> 00:35:06,216
happy to pass it on in the next

595
00:35:06,216 --> 00:35:07,385
year or two if somebody is

596
00:35:07,385 --> 00:35:09,387
interested, but I think I need

597
00:35:09,387 --> 00:35:10,488
to be on that for the purposes

598
00:35:10,488 --> 00:35:11,522
of the continuity, with no

599
00:35:11,522 --> 00:35:13,291
objections. And Director Julian,

600
00:35:13,291 --> 00:35:15,159
are you okay staying on as the

601
00:35:15,159 --> 00:35:16,294
alternate? I am, sir. Thank you,

602
00:35:16,294 --> 00:35:17,762
thank you. Moving along to the

603
00:35:17,762 --> 00:35:19,762
State Highway 154 Safety

604
00:35:20,732 --> 00:35:23,501
Committee, I think we have five

605
00:35:23,501 --> 00:35:26,360
directors on that at this point.

606
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:27,805
Is that correct? That correct?

607
00:35:27,805 --> 00:35:28,940
Just for the record, that's

608
00:35:28,940 --> 00:35:31,420
that is Director Hartman,

609
00:35:31,420 --> 00:35:32,110
director Capps, director Prodi,

610
00:35:32,110 --> 00:35:33,978
director Silva and director

611
00:35:33,978 --> 00:35:35,460
Brown. So that's the kind of

612
00:35:35,460 --> 00:35:36,113
those areas, the second and

613
00:35:36,113 --> 00:35:37,150
third district of the

614
00:35:37,150 --> 00:35:38,249
supervisors and the three

615
00:35:38,249 --> 00:35:41,249
cities that are kind of

616
00:35:41,286 --> 00:35:42,987
impacted there as well. Are you

617
00:35:42,987 --> 00:35:44,255
guys all happy staying on that?

618
00:35:44,255 --> 00:35:45,990
Okay. So the direction of the

619
00:35:45,990 --> 00:35:47,125
board currently is to and the

620
00:35:47,125 --> 00:35:48,993
motion will make is to keep

621
00:35:48,993 --> 00:35:51,596
that the same status quo. The

622
00:35:51,596 --> 00:35:53,164
sb, cag Executive Committee,

623
00:35:53,164 --> 00:35:55,564
which is traditionally the

624
00:35:56,334 --> 00:35:57,902
chair and the vice chair and

625
00:35:57,902 --> 00:35:59,537
chair, vice chair, former past

626
00:35:59,537 --> 00:36:00,939
chair and the chairs of the

627
00:36:00,939 --> 00:36:02,707
subregional. So five five

628
00:36:02,707 --> 00:36:05,107
members. Okay. Any objections

629
00:36:05,977 --> 00:36:07,478
there. Yeah. Do we have the the

630
00:36:07,478 --> 00:36:08,780
Subregionals already voted on.

631
00:36:08,780 --> 00:36:10,782
Yes. Who are the chairs of the

632
00:36:10,782 --> 00:36:13,182
director Julian and Director

633
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,489
Lee okay. Past chair is Rouse.

634
00:36:18,489 --> 00:36:19,924
Yeah. So be Rouse Nelson, Silva

635
00:36:19,924 --> 00:36:21,759
Julian and Lee for the

636
00:36:21,759 --> 00:36:23,560
executive committee. All right.

637
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,630
Since Central Coast coalition

638
00:36:25,630 --> 00:36:27,630
state legislation, legislative

639
00:36:30,268 --> 00:36:33,204
advocacy day. Who wants to go

640
00:36:33,204 --> 00:36:34,404
to Sacramento. So how many how

641
00:36:34,404 --> 00:36:36,507
many numbers do we we send to

642
00:36:36,507 --> 00:36:40,107
this. We normally take one. At

643
00:36:41,279 --> 00:36:42,980
least one okay. I will be I

644
00:36:42,980 --> 00:36:45,830
think unavailable at that time.

645
00:36:45,830 --> 00:36:46,350
So I'm not able to do that or

646
00:36:46,350 --> 00:36:47,484
else I would volunteer. But is

647
00:36:47,484 --> 00:36:49,884
there anybody that's interested

648
00:36:52,657 --> 00:36:55,657
in potentially going to state?

649
00:36:57,896 --> 00:37:00,197
State Legislative Advocacy Day,

650
00:37:00,197 --> 00:37:03,197
MARCH? I might be unavailable

651
00:37:04,602 --> 00:37:07,638
as well. Okay. Can we, per the

652
00:37:07,638 --> 00:37:09,274
motion, make that a CHAIRMAN's?

653
00:37:09,274 --> 00:37:10,942
Can I appoint somebody at a

654
00:37:10,942 --> 00:37:12,176
later date? If you guys would

655
00:37:12,176 --> 00:37:14,110
make that part of the motion is

656
00:37:14,110 --> 00:37:15,246
I will appoint somebody to go

657
00:37:15,246 --> 00:37:17,140
to that. And once you guys

658
00:37:17,140 --> 00:37:18,182
check your schedules, you guys

659
00:37:18,182 --> 00:37:20,180
let me know and I'll find

660
00:37:20,180 --> 00:37:21,152
somebody. And we can take more

661
00:37:21,152 --> 00:37:22,387
than one if necessary. If more

662
00:37:22,387 --> 00:37:23,388
than one is interested. Okay.

663
00:37:23,388 --> 00:37:25,890
Thank you, Director Kern.

664
00:37:25,890 --> 00:37:25,857
Moving on to the Washington, dc

665
00:37:25,857 --> 00:37:27,250
legislative delegation.

666
00:37:27,250 --> 00:37:28,359
Typically, again, this is the

667
00:37:28,359 --> 00:37:29,761
former past chair, the current

668
00:37:29,761 --> 00:37:30,862
chair and the vice chair, which

669
00:37:30,862 --> 00:37:32,463
would traditionally be Rouse,

670
00:37:32,463 --> 00:37:34,863
Nelson and Silva. Everybody's

671
00:37:37,769 --> 00:37:40,238
good with that. Okay. MADAM

672
00:37:40,238 --> 00:37:43,838
Clerk, did you catch all that?

673
00:37:44,342 --> 00:37:45,910
Okay. Any discussions from

674
00:37:45,910 --> 00:37:47,145
anybody else that would like to

675
00:37:47,145 --> 00:37:49,130
you know, this is kind of speak

676
00:37:49,130 --> 00:37:50,810
now or forever hold your peace

677
00:37:50,810 --> 00:37:52,984
in Santa Maria. Any other

678
00:37:52,984 --> 00:37:54,686
thoughts? None up here. All

679
00:37:54,686 --> 00:37:55,720
right. Thank you, Director

680
00:37:55,720 --> 00:37:57,689
Patino. MADAM Clerk, is there

681
00:37:57,689 --> 00:37:59,524
any public comment? If there

682
00:37:59,524 --> 00:38:00,724
are any members of the public

683
00:38:00,724 --> 00:38:02,593
on the zoom webinar who wish to

684
00:38:02,593 --> 00:38:03,728
speak, would you please use the

685
00:38:03,728 --> 00:38:05,597
raise hand feature and I will

686
00:38:05,597 --> 00:38:07,398
call upon you. There are no

687
00:38:07,398 --> 00:38:09,330
paper requests to speak forms,

688
00:38:09,330 --> 00:38:10,535
and there are no attendees who

689
00:38:10,535 --> 00:38:13,360
wish to speak. Okay. MADAM

690
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,740
Clerk, is it clear from the

691
00:38:16,740 --> 00:38:19,740
discussion up here if somebody

692
00:38:20,578 --> 00:38:21,713
says a motion to appoint the

693
00:38:21,713 --> 00:38:23,548
committees as discussed by the

694
00:38:23,548 --> 00:38:25,830
board, that that. Yes. Good

695
00:38:25,830 --> 00:38:26,651
enough for you on the motion,

696
00:38:26,651 --> 00:38:27,785
or do we need to rephrase the

697
00:38:27,785 --> 00:38:30,185
appointees and delegates the

698
00:38:30,321 --> 00:38:32,523
record. Okay, okay. We're good.

699
00:38:32,523 --> 00:38:34,192
Okay. So I'm looking for a

700
00:38:34,192 --> 00:38:35,693
motion of a slate of appointees

701
00:38:35,693 --> 00:38:38,496
based on the discussion we had

702
00:38:38,496 --> 00:38:40,297
up here just now, I got a move

703
00:38:40,297 --> 00:38:41,798
to approve. Okay. Motion from

704
00:38:41,798 --> 00:38:44,198
Brown, second, second from

705
00:38:44,269 --> 00:38:46,204
Silva. All right. Can we go

706
00:38:46,204 --> 00:38:47,272
ahead and do a roll call? Vote,

707
00:38:47,272 --> 00:38:48,673
please. Director. Rouse.

708
00:38:48,673 --> 00:38:50,673
Director. Perrotti. Hi.

709
00:38:51,943 --> 00:38:54,343
Director. Patino. Hi. Director.

710
00:38:55,413 --> 00:38:57,813
Mosby. Director. Lee. Director.

711
00:38:59,150 --> 00:39:01,251
Lavagnino. Director. Julian. Hi,

712
00:39:01,251 --> 00:39:03,651
director. Hartman, I. Director.

713
00:39:03,821 --> 00:39:05,821
Clark. Director. Capps.

714
00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:08,390
Director. Brown. Vice chair.

715
00:39:08,459 --> 00:39:10,961
Silva and chair. Nelson I.

716
00:39:10,961 --> 00:39:12,297
Motion passes. All right, just

717
00:39:12,297 --> 00:39:13,364
for a moment of agenda.

718
00:39:13,364 --> 00:39:15,700
Management is our is our

719
00:39:15,700 --> 00:39:16,868
presenter for five here. Okay.

720
00:39:16,868 --> 00:39:18,802
So we're gonna go ahead and

721
00:39:18,802 --> 00:39:19,903
move on to item five b. MADAM

722
00:39:19,903 --> 00:39:21,500
Clerk, would you please read

723
00:39:21,500 --> 00:39:22,473
that item into the record?

724
00:39:22,473 --> 00:39:23,942
Final state 166 comprehensive

725
00:39:23,942 --> 00:39:25,376
corridor study recommended

726
00:39:25,376 --> 00:39:27,478
actions one. Approve the final

727
00:39:27,478 --> 00:39:29,478
State Route 166 comprehensive

728
00:39:29,714 --> 00:39:30,882
quarter study and two direct

729
00:39:30,882 --> 00:39:31,882
staff to file a notice of

730
00:39:31,882 --> 00:39:33,151
exemption with the Santa

731
00:39:33,151 --> 00:39:35,551
Barbara County Clerk pursuant

732
00:39:36,154 --> 00:39:37,755
to section 15738b2 of the

733
00:39:37,755 --> 00:39:39,755
California Environmental

734
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:43,761
Quality Act, Ceqa guidelines.

735
00:39:43,761 --> 00:39:44,928
All right. I guess staff will

736
00:39:44,928 --> 00:39:46,564
have a presentation for us.

737
00:39:46,564 --> 00:39:48,833
Thank you. Good morning, chair

738
00:39:48,833 --> 00:39:51,636
and directors and happy New

739
00:39:51,636 --> 00:39:54,439
year. I'm Michael Carney from

740
00:39:54,439 --> 00:39:57,439
sp, cag programing. And today

741
00:39:58,443 --> 00:40:01,346
we will be presenting the final.

742
00:40:01,346 --> 00:40:03,746
There you go. 166 Corridor

743
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,284
Study. I will be using this I

744
00:40:12,423 --> 00:40:14,726
think. Okay. Sb cag has been

745
00:40:14,726 --> 00:40:17,228
working with Caltrans, City of

746
00:40:17,228 --> 00:40:19,597
Santa Maria, City of Guadalupe

747
00:40:19,597 --> 00:40:23,197
and the county to develop this

748
00:40:23,601 --> 00:40:26,601
study with our consultant dcs

749
00:40:29,741 --> 00:40:32,644
and Somas. As a reminder, the

750
00:40:32,644 --> 00:40:34,879
study focuses on State Route

751
00:40:34,879 --> 00:40:37,150
166 between City of Guadalupe

752
00:40:37,150 --> 00:40:40,615
and City of Santa Maria, as

753
00:40:41,286 --> 00:40:42,554
well as the parallel facilities.

754
00:40:42,554 --> 00:40:44,455
Excuse me, Chair Nelson, could

755
00:40:44,455 --> 00:40:47,324
you ever speak up a little bit,

756
00:40:47,324 --> 00:40:50,924
please? Yes, yes. Is this okay

757
00:40:51,729 --> 00:40:55,900
if I bring it closer to me?

758
00:40:55,900 --> 00:40:57,969
Perfect. There is a little

759
00:40:57,969 --> 00:40:59,971
button on your right to raise

760
00:40:59,971 --> 00:41:02,971
the platform. Oh, this actual

761
00:41:03,741 --> 00:41:05,410
platform. Got it. Okay, let's

762
00:41:05,410 --> 00:41:07,450
do it. Okay. Does this help?

763
00:41:07,450 --> 00:41:09,379
Yeah. Do a test. All right. I

764
00:41:09,379 --> 00:41:10,514
just have to project. So I'll

765
00:41:10,514 --> 00:41:12,884
just go over this part real

766
00:41:12,884 --> 00:41:15,386
quick. As a reminder, the the

767
00:41:15,386 --> 00:41:17,255
study focuses on State Route

768
00:41:17,255 --> 00:41:18,957
166 from Guadalupe to Santa

769
00:41:18,957 --> 00:41:21,957
Maria. And it includes the

770
00:41:23,394 --> 00:41:25,794
parallel facilities as well.

771
00:41:26,563 --> 00:41:29,868
Nope. Okay. The goal of this

772
00:41:29,868 --> 00:41:32,770
study is to develop a list of

773
00:41:32,770 --> 00:41:34,839
improvements to address the

774
00:41:34,839 --> 00:41:36,307
issues along the corridor.

775
00:41:36,307 --> 00:41:38,707
Examples of those issues

776
00:41:39,911 --> 00:41:41,911
include safety, congestion,

777
00:41:42,380 --> 00:41:44,649
goods movement, and multimodal

778
00:41:44,649 --> 00:41:47,490
connections. The study also

779
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,655
helps us prepare for future

780
00:41:50,655 --> 00:41:52,557
funding and sets us up for

781
00:41:52,557 --> 00:41:54,557
future grants, competitive

782
00:41:54,591 --> 00:41:56,270
grants, and it also helps us

783
00:41:56,270 --> 00:41:58,229
identify any projects that we

784
00:41:58,229 --> 00:42:01,829
MAY want to include in our

785
00:42:03,334 --> 00:42:05,470
measure a renewal. So I'm going

786
00:42:05,470 --> 00:42:07,939
to pass it off to Jim Danko

787
00:42:07,939 --> 00:42:11,539
from dcs, who is helping us

788
00:42:15,446 --> 00:42:19,460
with the study. Oh, that's for

789
00:42:24,622 --> 00:42:26,257
you. Okay. MR. Chair, members

790
00:42:26,257 --> 00:42:28,526
of the board again, Jim, I'm a

791
00:42:28,526 --> 00:42:30,328
principal at dcs associates. We

792
00:42:30,328 --> 00:42:31,529
are also joined by Thomas

793
00:42:31,529 --> 00:42:33,398
Engineering for civil support

794
00:42:33,398 --> 00:42:36,334
to help support sb, cag in this

795
00:42:36,334 --> 00:42:37,869
study. I'll quickly go through

796
00:42:37,869 --> 00:42:39,436
the aspects of the study, the

797
00:42:39,436 --> 00:42:41,720
existing conditions analysis,

798
00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:43,720
our community engagement

799
00:42:43,208 --> 00:42:44,676
efforts, the performance

800
00:42:44,676 --> 00:42:46,910
assessment, and then quickly go

801
00:42:46,910 --> 00:42:47,979
through the the cip

802
00:42:47,979 --> 00:42:50,848
improvements that some of you

803
00:42:50,848 --> 00:42:54,419
have already seen and wrap up

804
00:42:54,419 --> 00:42:56,220
with implementation. So for

805
00:42:56,220 --> 00:42:58,122
existing conditions, we took a

806
00:42:58,122 --> 00:43:00,158
pretty deep dive. We looked at

807
00:43:00,158 --> 00:43:01,392
the socioeconomic

808
00:43:01,392 --> 00:43:03,270
characteristics of the area. So

809
00:43:03,270 --> 00:43:04,929
city of Guadalupe, Santa Maria,

810
00:43:04,929 --> 00:43:05,997
Orchard area, but also the

811
00:43:05,997 --> 00:43:07,997
socioeconomic characteristics

812
00:43:08,866 --> 00:43:10,902
of the users that are on 166 on

813
00:43:10,902 --> 00:43:13,471
a daily basis. We did that

814
00:43:13,471 --> 00:43:14,939
through cell data, big data. We

815
00:43:14,939 --> 00:43:17,442
looked at goods movement, we

816
00:43:17,442 --> 00:43:19,978
looked at operations. And in

817
00:43:19,978 --> 00:43:21,790
terms of delay and travel time

818
00:43:21,790 --> 00:43:22,981
reliability, which is kind of a

819
00:43:22,981 --> 00:43:24,682
new metric that is of key

820
00:43:24,682 --> 00:43:26,384
interest. Obviously, we looked

821
00:43:26,384 --> 00:43:28,620
at safety, looking at the

822
00:43:28,620 --> 00:43:30,855
collision history and where the

823
00:43:30,855 --> 00:43:32,890
hotspots tend to be. And we as

824
00:43:32,890 --> 00:43:34,358
part of that, we also performed

825
00:43:34,358 --> 00:43:36,794
a roadway or road safety audit,

826
00:43:36,794 --> 00:43:38,162
which is a method prescribed by

827
00:43:38,162 --> 00:43:39,764
Federal Highway Administration,

828
00:43:39,764 --> 00:43:41,232
which actually took our team

829
00:43:41,232 --> 00:43:42,634
out there and walked the

830
00:43:42,634 --> 00:43:43,667
corridor, took lots of

831
00:43:43,667 --> 00:43:45,870
observations, and that included

832
00:43:45,870 --> 00:43:48,270
staff from Guadalupe, Santa

833
00:43:48,473 --> 00:43:50,407
Maria, Caltrans, sb, cag, and

834
00:43:50,407 --> 00:43:52,377
the consultant team. We looked

835
00:43:52,377 --> 00:43:55,245
at multimodal access in terms

836
00:43:55,245 --> 00:43:57,810
of ped, bike and transit, and

837
00:43:57,810 --> 00:43:59,551
then looked at how stressful it

838
00:43:59,551 --> 00:44:00,718
is for those active

839
00:44:00,718 --> 00:44:02,487
transportation users within the

840
00:44:02,487 --> 00:44:03,555
corridor. As you might imagine,

841
00:44:03,555 --> 00:44:05,390
it's very stressful, which

842
00:44:05,390 --> 00:44:07,425
keeps people from wanting to

843
00:44:07,425 --> 00:44:08,860
bike or walk the corridor. And

844
00:44:08,860 --> 00:44:11,763
then finally we looked at we

845
00:44:11,763 --> 00:44:14,298
used a series of Caltrans

846
00:44:14,298 --> 00:44:16,801
website tools to look at equity

847
00:44:16,801 --> 00:44:18,303
and vulnerable network as it

848
00:44:18,303 --> 00:44:20,703
relates to extreme weather

849
00:44:21,506 --> 00:44:23,308
events. So in terms of our

850
00:44:23,308 --> 00:44:25,708
community engagement, we used

851
00:44:26,578 --> 00:44:28,746
all our our resources to make

852
00:44:28,746 --> 00:44:30,582
sure we did a good job of this.

853
00:44:30,582 --> 00:44:31,950
We had a project website. We

854
00:44:31,950 --> 00:44:33,418
had an interactive web based

855
00:44:33,418 --> 00:44:34,819
tool that allowed folks in the

856
00:44:34,819 --> 00:44:37,322
comfort of their own home to

857
00:44:37,322 --> 00:44:39,490
provide public input. We did a

858
00:44:39,490 --> 00:44:41,890
community survey, both online

859
00:44:43,827 --> 00:44:45,290
and in person, and a lot of

860
00:44:45,290 --> 00:44:46,397
collateral materials to make

861
00:44:46,397 --> 00:44:49,601
sure folks were aware of that

862
00:44:49,601 --> 00:44:52,470
the study was going on. We also

863
00:44:52,470 --> 00:44:53,937
did about five pop ups where we

864
00:44:53,937 --> 00:44:56,441
don't ask people to come to us,

865
00:44:56,441 --> 00:44:57,876
we go to where they are. I'm

866
00:44:57,876 --> 00:44:59,444
happy to say we exceeded our

867
00:44:59,444 --> 00:45:01,813
goals in terms of the number of

868
00:45:01,813 --> 00:45:04,213
community surveys that were

869
00:45:04,782 --> 00:45:07,510
performed by the public. We

870
00:45:07,510 --> 00:45:10,510
also the lion's share over 70%

871
00:45:10,955 --> 00:45:12,824
were done by Hispanic speakers.

872
00:45:12,824 --> 00:45:14,893
And we also shout out to the

873
00:45:14,893 --> 00:45:16,361
county who allowed us to use

874
00:45:16,361 --> 00:45:18,897
Promotoras, which are folks who

875
00:45:18,897 --> 00:45:19,931
speak Mexican, who that

876
00:45:19,931 --> 00:45:21,366
community does not have a

877
00:45:21,366 --> 00:45:22,967
written language. So the only

878
00:45:22,967 --> 00:45:24,568
way you can get their input is

879
00:45:24,568 --> 00:45:26,803
verbally. That was a really

880
00:45:26,803 --> 00:45:28,206
nice resource, and we did very

881
00:45:28,206 --> 00:45:29,607
well with our community

882
00:45:29,607 --> 00:45:30,675
engagement and exceeded our our

883
00:45:30,675 --> 00:45:32,911
community engagement goals. I

884
00:45:32,911 --> 00:45:34,979
think we got close to 500

885
00:45:34,979 --> 00:45:36,581
surveys filled out. And then in

886
00:45:36,581 --> 00:45:37,982
addition to that, we did go and

887
00:45:37,982 --> 00:45:39,284
hold two public workshops, one

888
00:45:39,284 --> 00:45:40,785
in Guadalupe, one in Santa

889
00:45:40,785 --> 00:45:42,987
Maria, where we asked folks to

890
00:45:42,987 --> 00:45:44,220
come and provide input on the

891
00:45:44,220 --> 00:45:45,856
improvement concepts that were

892
00:45:45,856 --> 00:45:47,659
under consideration. And then

893
00:45:47,659 --> 00:45:49,561
last but not least, we had

894
00:45:49,561 --> 00:45:51,961
meetings with our stakeholder

895
00:45:52,664 --> 00:45:53,932
advisory committee, with the

896
00:45:53,932 --> 00:45:55,932
subregional planning committee

897
00:45:59,137 --> 00:46:00,205
of sb, cag, as well as tac.

898
00:46:00,205 --> 00:46:01,706
Okay. The performance

899
00:46:01,706 --> 00:46:04,706
assessment. We did look at

900
00:46:06,900 --> 00:46:07,780
roughly 11 types of

901
00:46:07,780 --> 00:46:09,120
improvements in the world we

902
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,448
live in in terms of federal

903
00:46:10,448 --> 00:46:12,417
grants. It's all performance

904
00:46:12,417 --> 00:46:14,352
based. So that's we're looking

905
00:46:14,352 --> 00:46:15,320
at not only the costs of the

906
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:16,788
improvements, but also the

907
00:46:16,788 --> 00:46:18,560
monetized benefits of the

908
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:19,224
improvements. And from that you

909
00:46:19,224 --> 00:46:20,758
can get a benefit cost

910
00:46:20,758 --> 00:46:22,260
assessment. It's not the only

911
00:46:22,260 --> 00:46:23,594
metric, but it's a key metric

912
00:46:23,594 --> 00:46:24,862
that drives a lot of funding

913
00:46:24,862 --> 00:46:26,264
decisions made by the

914
00:46:26,264 --> 00:46:28,264
California Transportation

915
00:46:28,666 --> 00:46:30,335
Commission and federal highways.

916
00:46:30,335 --> 00:46:31,802
So we looked at the benefits as

917
00:46:31,802 --> 00:46:33,972
it relates to collision

918
00:46:33,972 --> 00:46:35,874
reduction, delay reduction,

919
00:46:35,874 --> 00:46:37,874
travel time, reliability

920
00:46:38,276 --> 00:46:40,979
improvement, fuel use on road,

921
00:46:40,979 --> 00:46:43,130
mobile source emissions, so on

922
00:46:43,130 --> 00:46:45,616
and so forth. So we didn't we

923
00:46:45,616 --> 00:46:46,985
tried not to leave any rock

924
00:46:46,985 --> 00:46:48,520
unturned in terms of monetizing

925
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:49,988
benefits. We didn't want to

926
00:46:49,988 --> 00:46:52,900
leave any on the ground or, you

927
00:46:52,900 --> 00:46:53,490
know, off the table. But there

928
00:46:53,490 --> 00:46:55,260
are some you can't capture all

929
00:46:55,260 --> 00:46:56,794
in one that the growers are

930
00:46:56,794 --> 00:46:58,794
Shippers Association pointed

931
00:46:59,931 --> 00:47:01,733
out that we could not be on the

932
00:47:01,733 --> 00:47:03,601
scope of our study, but we do

933
00:47:03,601 --> 00:47:05,435
recognize it is the cost of

934
00:47:05,435 --> 00:47:07,435
agriculture for transporting

935
00:47:07,872 --> 00:47:10,272
perishable goods every hour

936
00:47:10,408 --> 00:47:11,543
between cut and in the in the

937
00:47:11,543 --> 00:47:13,440
Coolidge storage is a day of

938
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:14,979
shelf life that's lost. And

939
00:47:14,979 --> 00:47:16,948
that has economic implications,

940
00:47:16,948 --> 00:47:18,316
of course. So we we do talk

941
00:47:18,316 --> 00:47:20,218
about it, but we didn't

942
00:47:20,218 --> 00:47:21,586
monetize that, which basically

943
00:47:21,586 --> 00:47:24,155
means that our, our benefit

944
00:47:24,155 --> 00:47:26,324
cost ratio, which was very good

945
00:47:26,324 --> 00:47:28,324
2.66 is probably underestimated.

946
00:47:28,459 --> 00:47:30,962
We didn't take that into

947
00:47:30,962 --> 00:47:33,362
account. But again freight

948
00:47:33,531 --> 00:47:35,931
movement is improved. Gross

949
00:47:35,967 --> 00:47:38,870
regional product in the region

950
00:47:38,870 --> 00:47:39,737
adds about $12 million. If the

951
00:47:39,737 --> 00:47:41,172
construction of these

952
00:47:41,172 --> 00:47:42,974
improvements takes place, and

953
00:47:42,974 --> 00:47:44,509
then that will create jobs as

954
00:47:44,509 --> 00:47:46,411
well. So a lot of economic

955
00:47:46,411 --> 00:47:47,912
benefit and then, you know,

956
00:47:47,912 --> 00:47:49,981
benefit cost is not the only

957
00:47:49,981 --> 00:47:51,883
thing. So we did look at policy

958
00:47:51,883 --> 00:47:53,418
consistency. Not only the local

959
00:47:53,418 --> 00:47:54,519
agency general plan policies.

960
00:47:54,519 --> 00:47:56,287
That's the city of Guadalupe

961
00:47:56,287 --> 00:47:58,223
and the city of Santa Maria and

962
00:47:58,223 --> 00:47:59,290
the county. And as well as the

963
00:47:59,290 --> 00:48:02,290
regional policies of sb, cag

964
00:48:02,627 --> 00:48:04,280
and their rtp, but also

965
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:05,897
Caltrans. Of course, it's their

966
00:48:05,897 --> 00:48:07,365
facility. And so we looked at

967
00:48:07,365 --> 00:48:08,633
their climate change

968
00:48:08,633 --> 00:48:10,301
initiatives and their policies

969
00:48:10,301 --> 00:48:12,437
to see how congruent each of

970
00:48:12,437 --> 00:48:15,437
the projects were. And that's

971
00:48:17,508 --> 00:48:19,210
what this matrix shows. And in

972
00:48:19,210 --> 00:48:20,311
terms of we did have a public

973
00:48:20,311 --> 00:48:21,278
draft. It was released in

974
00:48:21,278 --> 00:48:23,678
OCTOBER. We did receive

975
00:48:23,948 --> 00:48:25,316
comments from Caltrans, sb, cag,

976
00:48:25,316 --> 00:48:27,318
the North County Subregional

977
00:48:27,318 --> 00:48:28,653
Planning Committee, as well as

978
00:48:28,653 --> 00:48:30,121
the stakeholder advisory

979
00:48:30,121 --> 00:48:31,722
committee. And just real quick,

980
00:48:31,722 --> 00:48:34,122
I'll just summarize those

981
00:48:34,993 --> 00:48:37,862
comments for you. So for sb and

982
00:48:37,862 --> 00:48:39,664
Caltrans, the typical editorial

983
00:48:39,664 --> 00:48:40,765
suggestions but in better

984
00:48:40,765 --> 00:48:42,634
resolution list of acronyms,

985
00:48:42,634 --> 00:48:44,670
which is now part of the draft.

986
00:48:44,670 --> 00:48:46,237
And then some clarifications on

987
00:48:46,237 --> 00:48:47,705
the performance assessment for

988
00:48:47,705 --> 00:48:50,174
Caltrans, the North County Sub

989
00:48:50,174 --> 00:48:52,574
Regional Committee, they desire

990
00:48:52,810 --> 00:48:54,646
to see a four lane widening 166

991
00:48:54,646 --> 00:48:56,281
as part of a aspirational list

992
00:48:56,281 --> 00:48:58,149
of projects that are longer

993
00:48:58,149 --> 00:48:58,750
term. This. The planning

994
00:48:58,750 --> 00:49:01,352
horizon for this study is

995
00:49:01,352 --> 00:49:03,870
roughly 20 to 25 years. So

996
00:49:03,870 --> 00:49:04,589
short term, if you will, when

997
00:49:04,589 --> 00:49:06,357
it comes to transportation

998
00:49:06,357 --> 00:49:08,757
improvements. But the longer

999
00:49:08,826 --> 00:49:10,295
term are equally as important

1000
00:49:10,295 --> 00:49:13,196
because, of course, measure a

1001
00:49:13,196 --> 00:49:14,650
will sunset in 2040. And if

1002
00:49:14,650 --> 00:49:15,799
there's a renewal effort,

1003
00:49:15,799 --> 00:49:16,801
there's a desire to have new

1004
00:49:16,801 --> 00:49:19,201
regional improvements that can

1005
00:49:19,671 --> 00:49:21,873
be made part of that referendum.

1006
00:49:21,873 --> 00:49:23,775
They also suggested that the

1007
00:49:23,775 --> 00:49:25,777
Bonita School Road or Bonita

1008
00:49:25,777 --> 00:49:28,177
School itself should be

1009
00:49:28,446 --> 00:49:30,515
relocated. We agreed with that

1010
00:49:30,515 --> 00:49:31,716
as well as the stakeholder.

1011
00:49:31,716 --> 00:49:32,750
Well, the stakeholder advisory

1012
00:49:32,750 --> 00:49:34,619
committee strongly agreed with

1013
00:49:34,619 --> 00:49:37,388
that as well. So that was an

1014
00:49:37,388 --> 00:49:39,290
interesting input. And then

1015
00:49:39,290 --> 00:49:40,525
just one good question was, was

1016
00:49:40,525 --> 00:49:42,560
there any regional differences

1017
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,662
in the public input? In other

1018
00:49:44,662 --> 00:49:45,964
words, do residents of City of

1019
00:49:45,964 --> 00:49:47,365
Guadalupe have different

1020
00:49:47,365 --> 00:49:48,800
opinions of what they'd like to

1021
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,350
see in terms of improvements

1022
00:49:51,350 --> 00:49:52,203
and other aspects versus Santa

1023
00:49:52,203 --> 00:49:54,205
Maria and orchid? So we did go

1024
00:49:54,205 --> 00:49:56,700
back and take a look at that.

1025
00:49:56,700 --> 00:49:57,108
For the most part, they were

1026
00:49:57,108 --> 00:49:59,344
very congruent, but there was

1027
00:49:59,344 --> 00:50:02,344
some differences. City of Santa

1028
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:03,948
Maria Orcutt were more pro for

1029
00:50:03,948 --> 00:50:06,348
more enforcement in the

1030
00:50:07,518 --> 00:50:08,586
corridor. They were also more

1031
00:50:08,586 --> 00:50:09,987
advocating active

1032
00:50:09,987 --> 00:50:11,823
transportation improvements

1033
00:50:11,823 --> 00:50:13,625
versus the Guadalupe side,

1034
00:50:13,625 --> 00:50:16,250
which they advocated more

1035
00:50:16,294 --> 00:50:18,694
transit, which was interesting.

1036
00:50:19,130 --> 00:50:20,999
And people in Guadalupe use 166

1037
00:50:20,999 --> 00:50:23,768
a lot more than folks in Santa

1038
00:50:23,768 --> 00:50:25,904
Maria. So that was a pretty

1039
00:50:25,904 --> 00:50:27,105
clear from the separating those

1040
00:50:27,105 --> 00:50:29,474
two. So that's now documented

1041
00:50:29,474 --> 00:50:30,241
in the report. And then the

1042
00:50:30,241 --> 00:50:31,642
advisory committee, I've

1043
00:50:31,642 --> 00:50:33,478
already mentioned some of this.

1044
00:50:33,478 --> 00:50:34,546
They wanted to see more

1045
00:50:34,546 --> 00:50:35,947
operational improvements in

1046
00:50:35,947 --> 00:50:38,182
lighting on bed Arabian Black

1047
00:50:38,182 --> 00:50:41,119
Road as well as Black and Stole,

1048
00:50:41,119 --> 00:50:43,519
which we incorporated also

1049
00:50:43,688 --> 00:50:45,189
again, Bonita School location

1050
00:50:45,189 --> 00:50:46,758
is problematic. And the reason

1051
00:50:46,758 --> 00:50:48,626
that is, is that it's in the

1052
00:50:48,626 --> 00:50:50,327
middle of the ag fields, and

1053
00:50:50,327 --> 00:50:51,229
there's a lot of windblown

1054
00:50:51,229 --> 00:50:52,596
particulates. Those

1055
00:50:52,596 --> 00:50:54,366
particulates typically have

1056
00:50:54,366 --> 00:50:55,867
pesticides, herbicides, and you

1057
00:50:55,867 --> 00:50:57,350
have a sensitive receptive

1058
00:50:57,350 --> 00:50:58,970
group with young children right

1059
00:50:58,970 --> 00:51:00,705
in the middle of all that. So

1060
00:51:00,705 --> 00:51:01,873
all the students come from

1061
00:51:01,873 --> 00:51:04,273
Santa Maria. That's where

1062
00:51:04,742 --> 00:51:06,878
they're they live. So it makes

1063
00:51:06,878 --> 00:51:09,278
sense to possibly examine

1064
00:51:10,215 --> 00:51:11,883
relocation of that school. And

1065
00:51:11,883 --> 00:51:12,951
then again, recognition that

1066
00:51:12,951 --> 00:51:15,951
the benefit cost does not

1067
00:51:17,689 --> 00:51:19,856
reflect perishable goods. And

1068
00:51:19,856 --> 00:51:21,358
so this is a a matrix of how

1069
00:51:21,358 --> 00:51:23,610
our stakeholder advisory

1070
00:51:23,610 --> 00:51:24,620
committee scored each of the

1071
00:51:24,620 --> 00:51:25,129
improvements. And I'll walk

1072
00:51:25,129 --> 00:51:27,650
through those pretty well. But

1073
00:51:27,650 --> 00:51:29,566
for the most part there was a

1074
00:51:29,566 --> 00:51:32,437
lot of support. They had the

1075
00:51:32,437 --> 00:51:33,872
option of showing support,

1076
00:51:33,872 --> 00:51:36,872
being neutral or indifferent to

1077
00:51:37,750 --> 00:51:39,143
the improvement, or did not

1078
00:51:39,143 --> 00:51:41,112
support and then support with

1079
00:51:41,112 --> 00:51:42,580
the condition. And as you can

1080
00:51:42,580 --> 00:51:43,581
see, there was only two

1081
00:51:43,581 --> 00:51:45,450
improvements that they could

1082
00:51:45,450 --> 00:51:47,517
not support or a few of them

1083
00:51:47,517 --> 00:51:49,320
did not support. It was 5050.

1084
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:50,822
And that was the roundabout

1085
00:51:50,822 --> 00:51:52,190
alternatives to some of the

1086
00:51:52,190 --> 00:51:53,658
improvements. They preferred

1087
00:51:53,658 --> 00:51:55,526
signalized intersections. And

1088
00:51:55,526 --> 00:51:57,961
that's fine. We provide both

1089
00:51:57,961 --> 00:52:00,164
options. And then the Santa

1090
00:52:00,164 --> 00:52:02,734
Maria River levee Trail, about

1091
00:52:02,734 --> 00:52:03,735
half the group were not very

1092
00:52:03,735 --> 00:52:05,870
supportive of that improvement

1093
00:52:05,870 --> 00:52:09,207
being included as part of the

1094
00:52:09,207 --> 00:52:12,443
package. And then for the long

1095
00:52:12,443 --> 00:52:13,745
term improvement, a couple as a

1096
00:52:13,745 --> 00:52:16,714
condition of support, wanted to

1097
00:52:16,714 --> 00:52:17,815
see the class one trail

1098
00:52:17,815 --> 00:52:19,951
decoupled from the four lane

1099
00:52:19,951 --> 00:52:22,654
widening. We included them as a

1100
00:52:22,654 --> 00:52:25,123
couplet, so that would be a

1101
00:52:25,123 --> 00:52:27,491
class one trail from connecting

1102
00:52:27,491 --> 00:52:28,493
Santa Maria to Guadalupe

1103
00:52:28,493 --> 00:52:30,762
bidirectional, and that would

1104
00:52:30,762 --> 00:52:32,430
be on the south side of the

1105
00:52:32,430 --> 00:52:35,990
facility. And then the widening

1106
00:52:35,990 --> 00:52:36,167
of 166, which is very costly in

1107
00:52:36,167 --> 00:52:37,969
the subregional planning

1108
00:52:37,969 --> 00:52:40,238
committee, asked for a cost of

1109
00:52:40,238 --> 00:52:43,238
that based on construction year

1110
00:52:44,576 --> 00:52:46,576
of 2040. It's about $320

1111
00:52:50,582 --> 00:52:52,450
million. So not cheap. So real

1112
00:52:52,450 --> 00:52:54,850
quick, the improvement concepts.

1113
00:52:55,987 --> 00:52:59,557
This is an overall map. We do

1114
00:52:59,557 --> 00:53:02,460
reflect the purple bubbles that

1115
00:53:02,460 --> 00:53:04,295
that's the existing Gaps cap m

1116
00:53:04,295 --> 00:53:06,397
project that is currently

1117
00:53:06,397 --> 00:53:08,797
moving forward with planned

1118
00:53:09,634 --> 00:53:11,634
completion by 20 2829. That

1119
00:53:11,803 --> 00:53:13,803
includes a signalized

1120
00:53:14,706 --> 00:53:17,106
intersections in Guadalupe, as

1121
00:53:17,208 --> 00:53:18,610
well as some bike facility

1122
00:53:18,610 --> 00:53:20,544
improvements within the city of

1123
00:53:20,544 --> 00:53:22,460
Santa Maria. The green bubbles

1124
00:53:22,460 --> 00:53:24,115
are those that were identified

1125
00:53:24,115 --> 00:53:26,851
as part of this study, and I'll

1126
00:53:26,851 --> 00:53:29,851
walk through those very quickly.

1127
00:53:31,189 --> 00:53:34,789
So that's a rendition of the

1128
00:53:34,826 --> 00:53:36,494
Gaps cap m project, which we

1129
00:53:36,494 --> 00:53:37,695
did not reflect in the benefit

1130
00:53:37,695 --> 00:53:39,530
cost, but we wanted to include

1131
00:53:39,530 --> 00:53:40,632
because we're leveraging those

1132
00:53:40,632 --> 00:53:43,501
improvements as part of this

1133
00:53:43,501 --> 00:53:47,701
study. But as far as hours. So

1134
00:53:47,739 --> 00:53:49,507
a signalization of the Cmis 166

1135
00:53:49,507 --> 00:53:51,900
intersection, which additional

1136
00:53:51,900 --> 00:53:53,900
channelization for operational

1137
00:53:56,130 --> 00:53:58,413
and safety improvements. Some

1138
00:53:58,649 --> 00:54:00,785
formalizing of the access to

1139
00:54:00,785 --> 00:54:01,886
Bonita School Road from 166,

1140
00:54:01,886 --> 00:54:03,354
again for safety and

1141
00:54:03,354 --> 00:54:05,754
operational benefits, as well

1142
00:54:05,924 --> 00:54:08,260
as formalizing the parking and

1143
00:54:08,260 --> 00:54:09,527
some ingress egress

1144
00:54:09,527 --> 00:54:11,927
characteristics going into the

1145
00:54:14,365 --> 00:54:17,365
school itself. Ray Road in

1146
00:54:18,802 --> 00:54:19,837
mainline. This is basically

1147
00:54:19,837 --> 00:54:21,837
formalizing that stop

1148
00:54:23,107 --> 00:54:24,943
controlled at the northbound to

1149
00:54:24,943 --> 00:54:26,411
provide an extended right and

1150
00:54:26,411 --> 00:54:28,790
left turn storage, because

1151
00:54:28,790 --> 00:54:29,147
right now cuz pretty

1152
00:54:29,147 --> 00:54:31,316
significantly causing a lot of

1153
00:54:31,316 --> 00:54:32,784
delay. And that's also a safety

1154
00:54:32,784 --> 00:54:33,985
improvement for improved sight

1155
00:54:33,985 --> 00:54:36,985
distance for those turning left

1156
00:54:38,890 --> 00:54:40,580
and right. Okay. This is for

1157
00:54:40,580 --> 00:54:41,426
Hansen. And this is extending

1158
00:54:41,426 --> 00:54:42,894
this is only in the westbound

1159
00:54:42,894 --> 00:54:44,262
direction right now. The lane

1160
00:54:44,262 --> 00:54:46,662
drop occurs roughly around

1161
00:54:46,998 --> 00:54:48,399
Hansen. And but there's a lot

1162
00:54:48,399 --> 00:54:50,101
of businesses on the on that

1163
00:54:50,101 --> 00:54:52,570
north side with driveways. That

1164
00:54:52,570 --> 00:54:55,570
causes a lot of friction

1165
00:54:55,806 --> 00:54:57,609
turning movements that are are

1166
00:54:57,609 --> 00:54:59,176
creating safety issues. So the

1167
00:54:59,176 --> 00:55:02,680
idea here is that we extend

1168
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:03,681
that lane drop beyond Hansen

1169
00:55:03,681 --> 00:55:05,850
and beyond where those

1170
00:55:05,850 --> 00:55:07,352
driveways are. So it's a much

1171
00:55:07,352 --> 00:55:09,752
smoother transition from 2 to 1

1172
00:55:11,689 --> 00:55:13,791
lane. And then we also

1173
00:55:13,791 --> 00:55:16,791
identified pave way or paved

1174
00:55:17,940 --> 00:55:18,962
driveway aprons. And this is a

1175
00:55:18,962 --> 00:55:20,665
safety because it adds traction

1176
00:55:20,665 --> 00:55:22,330
to ingress and egress vehicles

1177
00:55:22,330 --> 00:55:24,736
coming out of those driveways

1178
00:55:24,736 --> 00:55:27,204
and those fields. But also it

1179
00:55:27,204 --> 00:55:28,473
cuts down on dust and marine

1180
00:55:28,473 --> 00:55:29,774
train road dust. So dust

1181
00:55:29,774 --> 00:55:31,109
abatement strategy. And this

1182
00:55:31,109 --> 00:55:34,109
was very popular among the

1183
00:55:35,779 --> 00:55:37,215
stakeholder advisory group. And

1184
00:55:37,215 --> 00:55:38,650
also the need for lighting. So

1185
00:55:38,650 --> 00:55:40,552
we heard this loud and clear

1186
00:55:40,552 --> 00:55:42,287
from the public and is an issue

1187
00:55:42,287 --> 00:55:43,655
particularly around key

1188
00:55:43,655 --> 00:55:46,550
intersections. So we identified

1189
00:55:47,292 --> 00:55:48,793
additional lighting for various

1190
00:55:48,793 --> 00:55:51,193
key locations within the

1191
00:55:51,329 --> 00:55:54,329
quarter. And also on Betteravia

1192
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,769
Road. We also are advocating

1193
00:55:57,769 --> 00:56:00,169
the purchase of 15 additional

1194
00:56:00,238 --> 00:56:01,739
vans from Cal Van to provide

1195
00:56:01,739 --> 00:56:04,139
exclusive service for ag

1196
00:56:04,209 --> 00:56:06,444
workers. We work closely with

1197
00:56:06,444 --> 00:56:08,880
Cal Vans to identify what the

1198
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,449
potential demand was for these

1199
00:56:11,449 --> 00:56:12,584
added vehicles, and there is a

1200
00:56:12,584 --> 00:56:14,520
demand there. Calvin's is

1201
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:15,385
already doing a lot of work in

1202
00:56:15,385 --> 00:56:16,321
this corridor, but they

1203
00:56:16,321 --> 00:56:19,321
recognize that it's not enough

1204
00:56:19,324 --> 00:56:21,125
and they can do more. So we're

1205
00:56:21,125 --> 00:56:23,125
advocating additional 15 cal

1206
00:56:23,795 --> 00:56:25,163
vans and then also for Santa

1207
00:56:25,163 --> 00:56:26,564
Maria Regional Transit, which

1208
00:56:26,564 --> 00:56:28,366
has now assumed control of the

1209
00:56:28,366 --> 00:56:29,767
Guadalupe Flier service between

1210
00:56:29,767 --> 00:56:32,704
Guadalupe and Santa Maria to

1211
00:56:32,704 --> 00:56:33,905
reduce those headways from 60

1212
00:56:33,905 --> 00:56:35,640
minutes to 30 minutes. That's

1213
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,409
going to require a purchase of

1214
00:56:38,409 --> 00:56:40,478
an additional 35 foot bus. And

1215
00:56:40,478 --> 00:56:43,470
so transit service would be

1216
00:56:43,470 --> 00:56:44,147
much more, I think, convenient,

1217
00:56:44,147 --> 00:56:46,160
particularly for those

1218
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,160
residents in Guadalupe who rely

1219
00:56:49,153 --> 00:56:52,156
on transit to go to Santa Maria

1220
00:56:52,156 --> 00:56:53,490
and back. Okay, so this is the

1221
00:56:53,490 --> 00:56:55,393
Surface Transportation

1222
00:56:55,393 --> 00:56:58,393
Assistance Act Star. This is

1223
00:56:58,630 --> 00:57:00,597
for truck circulation. And I

1224
00:57:00,597 --> 00:57:01,666
just want to make it clear from

1225
00:57:01,666 --> 00:57:04,435
the beginning the trucks are

1226
00:57:04,435 --> 00:57:05,737
already out there. So so any of

1227
00:57:05,737 --> 00:57:07,572
these improvements are not

1228
00:57:07,572 --> 00:57:09,374
allowing trucks where they

1229
00:57:09,374 --> 00:57:11,142
currently aren't operating.

1230
00:57:11,142 --> 00:57:12,610
That that is a misconception.

1231
00:57:12,610 --> 00:57:14,345
It's just trying to formalize

1232
00:57:14,345 --> 00:57:16,247
the network for not only the

1233
00:57:16,247 --> 00:57:19,847
truckers, but also for chp who

1234
00:57:19,851 --> 00:57:22,251
must enforce the regulations

1235
00:57:22,687 --> 00:57:25,189
and and also for the city of

1236
00:57:25,189 --> 00:57:27,250
Santa Maria, who's trying to

1237
00:57:27,250 --> 00:57:29,127
preclude the number of heavy

1238
00:57:29,127 --> 00:57:30,595
duty trucks, five axle plus

1239
00:57:30,595 --> 00:57:33,595
trucks that have to traverse

1240
00:57:33,798 --> 00:57:35,967
through their downtown on 166.

1241
00:57:35,967 --> 00:57:37,769
So and and we did find that not

1242
00:57:37,769 --> 00:57:39,170
only are the trucks there, but

1243
00:57:39,170 --> 00:57:41,406
they're growing in numbers and

1244
00:57:41,406 --> 00:57:43,474
they're growing faster than the

1245
00:57:43,474 --> 00:57:45,276
traffic overall is growing. So

1246
00:57:45,276 --> 00:57:48,279
the mix of heavy duty trucks is

1247
00:57:48,279 --> 00:57:51,279
increasing in this region. So

1248
00:57:52,183 --> 00:57:53,283
we've identified stay signage

1249
00:57:53,283 --> 00:57:55,530
improvements as well as some

1250
00:57:55,530 --> 00:57:56,821
other safety improvements. But

1251
00:57:56,821 --> 00:57:58,289
to formalize the network so

1252
00:57:58,289 --> 00:58:00,458
truckers know where to go and

1253
00:58:00,458 --> 00:58:01,526
where they should be. And we

1254
00:58:01,526 --> 00:58:03,727
identified a number of

1255
00:58:03,727 --> 00:58:05,129
alternative networks. There's

1256
00:58:05,129 --> 00:58:07,232
roughly six that are shown in

1257
00:58:07,232 --> 00:58:09,801
the report. I would say that

1258
00:58:09,801 --> 00:58:12,302
the city of Santa Maria is

1259
00:58:12,302 --> 00:58:14,539
advocating just bringing the

1260
00:58:14,539 --> 00:58:16,939
star signage, allowing trucks

1261
00:58:18,443 --> 00:58:21,645
to be on 166 up to Blosser Road

1262
00:58:21,645 --> 00:58:23,214
rather than to 135. And there's

1263
00:58:23,214 --> 00:58:24,916
various alternatives. And then

1264
00:58:24,916 --> 00:58:26,351
the advisory committee really

1265
00:58:26,351 --> 00:58:28,751
advocated, including Stoll Road

1266
00:58:32,523 --> 00:58:33,892
as part of the network as well.

1267
00:58:33,892 --> 00:58:35,727
And okay, so this intersection

1268
00:58:35,727 --> 00:58:38,127
improvements at Betteravia and

1269
00:58:38,229 --> 00:58:39,697
Mahoney, that's a very funky

1270
00:58:39,697 --> 00:58:41,465
intersection today. It's a

1271
00:58:41,465 --> 00:58:43,401
picture of it in the top right.

1272
00:58:43,401 --> 00:58:45,690
But this is to make it more of

1273
00:58:45,690 --> 00:58:46,871
a traditional intersection.

1274
00:58:46,871 --> 00:58:48,239
This will facilitate goods

1275
00:58:48,239 --> 00:58:50,141
movement trucks as well as

1276
00:58:50,141 --> 00:58:51,909
safety for vehicular traffic.

1277
00:58:51,909 --> 00:58:53,444
So this is the signalized

1278
00:58:53,444 --> 00:58:55,513
version of the improvement. And

1279
00:58:55,513 --> 00:58:57,615
we also included a roundabout

1280
00:58:57,615 --> 00:58:58,750
version. You know folks have

1281
00:58:58,750 --> 00:58:59,851
mixed feelings about

1282
00:58:59,851 --> 00:59:01,652
roundabouts. And we heard that

1283
00:59:01,652 --> 00:59:03,120
loud and clear from the

1284
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:04,988
advisory group as well as some

1285
00:59:04,988 --> 00:59:06,724
others in the public. But those

1286
00:59:06,724 --> 00:59:09,193
are options. And then last but

1287
00:59:09,193 --> 00:59:10,261
not least, the us 101

1288
00:59:10,261 --> 00:59:12,261
Betteravia interchange

1289
00:59:12,462 --> 00:59:14,599
improvement. So this is

1290
00:59:14,599 --> 00:59:16,401
changing the circulation of the

1291
00:59:16,401 --> 00:59:18,801
northbound ramps, but also

1292
00:59:18,937 --> 00:59:20,805
providing class one bike and

1293
00:59:20,805 --> 00:59:23,205
pedestrian facilities, as well

1294
00:59:24,309 --> 00:59:26,709
as intersection improvements at

1295
00:59:27,545 --> 00:59:29,279
at Nicholson as well. And this

1296
00:59:29,279 --> 00:59:30,815
is primarily driven by the need

1297
00:59:30,815 --> 00:59:33,685
to make sure Betteravia is

1298
00:59:33,685 --> 00:59:34,852
becoming a better Sta route.

1299
00:59:34,852 --> 00:59:37,255
There's already a lot of trucks

1300
00:59:37,255 --> 00:59:38,389
using it, so this will help

1301
00:59:38,389 --> 00:59:40,258
formalize that, but also the

1302
00:59:40,258 --> 00:59:41,326
city of Santa Maria, as part of

1303
00:59:41,326 --> 00:59:43,610
their general plan update, are

1304
00:59:43,610 --> 00:59:46,610
now targeting growth on the

1305
00:59:46,331 --> 00:59:47,365
east side of 101. And so you

1306
00:59:47,365 --> 00:59:48,433
you'll have residential and

1307
00:59:48,433 --> 00:59:49,367
then all the shopping

1308
00:59:49,367 --> 00:59:51,335
opportunities on the west side

1309
00:59:51,335 --> 00:59:52,503
of Betteravia. So you want to

1310
00:59:52,503 --> 00:59:54,339
make that more accessible to

1311
00:59:54,339 --> 00:59:56,741
pet and bikes as well as to

1312
00:59:56,741 --> 00:59:58,943
vehicles. And then the Santa

1313
00:59:58,943 --> 01:00:01,579
Maria levee, River Levee Trail

1314
01:00:01,579 --> 01:00:03,548
and that's included. This is a

1315
01:00:03,548 --> 01:00:04,983
very popular improvement, I

1316
01:00:04,983 --> 01:00:06,818
would say folks are concerned

1317
01:00:06,818 --> 01:00:09,530
about undue detour. Does it

1318
01:00:09,530 --> 01:00:10,455
really provide that that

1319
01:00:10,455 --> 01:00:12,455
parallel connection between

1320
01:00:13,658 --> 01:00:16,561
Santa Maria and Guadalupe? We

1321
01:00:16,561 --> 01:00:18,329
feel it does. But our analysis

1322
01:00:18,329 --> 01:00:19,564
did take into consideration the

1323
01:00:19,564 --> 01:00:20,965
buffer distance that people

1324
01:00:20,965 --> 01:00:22,300
would actually use this

1325
01:00:22,300 --> 01:00:24,135
facility to make those

1326
01:00:24,135 --> 01:00:25,870
connections. But make no

1327
01:00:25,870 --> 01:00:27,672
mistake, we recognize that

1328
01:00:27,672 --> 01:00:31,272
having a bike and ped facility

1329
01:00:31,743 --> 01:00:32,844
along the 166 is is much more

1330
01:00:32,844 --> 01:00:34,612
efficient, but again, it's much

1331
01:00:34,612 --> 01:00:35,747
more costly. This improvement

1332
01:00:35,747 --> 01:00:37,415
is moving along. It's already

1333
01:00:37,415 --> 01:00:38,583
in its environmental phase. And

1334
01:00:38,583 --> 01:00:42,183
so we're including it as part

1335
01:00:42,420 --> 01:00:44,989
of our package. And then here's

1336
01:00:44,989 --> 01:00:47,892
the, you know, the this the

1337
01:00:47,892 --> 01:00:49,794
widening. There you go. You can

1338
01:00:49,794 --> 01:00:52,163
see the bike path there, the so

1339
01:00:52,163 --> 01:00:53,264
the the profile cross section

1340
01:00:53,264 --> 01:00:55,667
in the middle. That's what

1341
01:00:55,667 --> 01:00:57,969
exists today. And you can see

1342
01:00:57,969 --> 01:00:59,303
the extent of what would be

1343
01:00:59,303 --> 01:01:01,239
required in terms of right of

1344
01:01:01,239 --> 01:01:04,750
way to make it a four lane

1345
01:01:04,750 --> 01:01:07,110
facility. Caltrans will need a

1346
01:01:07,110 --> 01:01:09,780
center median to a divider for

1347
01:01:09,780 --> 01:01:12,650
this. For safety, folks felt

1348
01:01:12,650 --> 01:01:13,718
from the stakeholder committee,

1349
01:01:13,718 --> 01:01:15,787
they questioned the need for

1350
01:01:15,787 --> 01:01:17,288
that. But I can guarantee you

1351
01:01:17,288 --> 01:01:20,858
Caltrans is going to want that.

1352
01:01:20,858 --> 01:01:22,827
And then the class one

1353
01:01:22,827 --> 01:01:25,227
bidirectional trail south side

1354
01:01:25,997 --> 01:01:27,498
of the state route 166. And

1355
01:01:27,498 --> 01:01:30,340
again, it comes at a hefty

1356
01:01:30,340 --> 01:01:31,202
price. So this is really only

1357
01:01:31,202 --> 01:01:34,706
possible, I think, as part of a

1358
01:01:34,706 --> 01:01:36,700
measure, a renewal package. And

1359
01:01:36,700 --> 01:01:36,908
then in terms of our

1360
01:01:36,908 --> 01:01:38,576
implementation, we looked at

1361
01:01:38,576 --> 01:01:40,445
all the various funding sources.

1362
01:01:40,445 --> 01:01:42,146
Again, as Maya said, we're

1363
01:01:42,146 --> 01:01:43,514
targeting at least for the the

1364
01:01:43,514 --> 01:01:45,914
package that we're identified

1365
01:01:46,184 --> 01:01:47,919
for these next 20 years, state

1366
01:01:47,919 --> 01:01:49,753
and federal grant funding to

1367
01:01:49,753 --> 01:01:52,753
try to get these projects

1368
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:54,826
implemented. And then we phased

1369
01:01:54,826 --> 01:01:57,226
the improvements from short

1370
01:01:57,594 --> 01:01:59,497
term mid-term and then that

1371
01:01:59,497 --> 01:02:00,765
longer term 20 plus years. And

1372
01:02:00,765 --> 01:02:02,000
that's where you see the four

1373
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,600
lane widening, as well as the

1374
01:02:06,104 --> 01:02:08,540
class one trail along 166. So

1375
01:02:08,540 --> 01:02:11,408
with that, I'll open it up to

1376
01:02:11,408 --> 01:02:13,440
questions. All right. Questions

1377
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:14,746
among directors I see. Director

1378
01:02:14,746 --> 01:02:16,280
Lee, you have a question I do.

1379
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:17,916
So the levee trail that you

1380
01:02:17,916 --> 01:02:20,510
spoke about, did you reach out

1381
01:02:20,510 --> 01:02:22,554
to the local farmers impacted

1382
01:02:22,554 --> 01:02:25,356
by that construction, or was

1383
01:02:25,356 --> 01:02:28,356
there any feedback or any

1384
01:02:28,726 --> 01:02:31,726
negative impacts to them? You

1385
01:02:32,630 --> 01:02:33,965
know? Director Lee, the Levee

1386
01:02:33,965 --> 01:02:35,833
Trail project is a county

1387
01:02:35,833 --> 01:02:36,968
project. We've included it

1388
01:02:36,968 --> 01:02:38,736
because it's moving forward.

1389
01:02:38,736 --> 01:02:40,238
It's complementary. It's

1390
01:02:40,238 --> 01:02:42,173
related to our study. So it's

1391
01:02:42,173 --> 01:02:44,242
the county that is advancing

1392
01:02:44,242 --> 01:02:45,376
the project. However, just on

1393
01:02:45,376 --> 01:02:47,376
our stakeholder advisory

1394
01:02:47,378 --> 01:02:48,112
committee, we did have

1395
01:02:48,112 --> 01:02:50,112
representatives of the

1396
01:02:50,315 --> 01:02:52,315
agricultural community that

1397
01:02:52,450 --> 01:02:54,886
were involved in the process.

1398
01:02:54,886 --> 01:02:55,987
And you did see on the when the

1399
01:02:55,987 --> 01:02:57,555
stakeholder Advisory Committee

1400
01:02:57,555 --> 01:02:59,256
took its support, don't support

1401
01:02:59,256 --> 01:03:02,193
votes that this is one of the

1402
01:03:02,193 --> 01:03:03,995
ones that had a couple do not

1403
01:03:03,995 --> 01:03:06,130
supports. Okay. And so going

1404
01:03:06,130 --> 01:03:07,265
back to the your study, did you

1405
01:03:07,265 --> 01:03:09,634
consider the early morning

1406
01:03:09,634 --> 01:03:12,237
traffic happens on the road?

1407
01:03:12,237 --> 01:03:14,839
Because we did from 2 to 5 I

1408
01:03:14,839 --> 01:03:17,508
believe it's like busy. Yes we

1409
01:03:17,508 --> 01:03:19,711
did. And that was a so there

1410
01:03:19,711 --> 01:03:21,813
was an early morning peak which

1411
01:03:21,813 --> 01:03:24,182
is at early Age-related Peak.

1412
01:03:24,182 --> 01:03:26,251
And we did the peak as well.

1413
01:03:26,251 --> 01:03:28,119
Got it. And adjusted completion

1414
01:03:28,119 --> 01:03:29,187
will help with that traffic

1415
01:03:29,187 --> 01:03:32,187
burden. And the completion of

1416
01:03:32,190 --> 01:03:33,825
this project will help with

1417
01:03:33,825 --> 01:03:35,727
that. Yes, yes. And the the

1418
01:03:35,727 --> 01:03:37,395
congestion that particularly in

1419
01:03:37,395 --> 01:03:40,265
Santa Maria that backs up for

1420
01:03:40,265 --> 01:03:41,766
that westbound trips in the Am

1421
01:03:41,766 --> 01:03:43,868
that drove a lot of the

1422
01:03:43,868 --> 01:03:45,436
improvements that you saw,

1423
01:03:45,436 --> 01:03:47,836
especially that the extension

1424
01:03:48,973 --> 01:03:50,575
of Hanson or 166 lane drop past

1425
01:03:50,575 --> 01:03:52,510
Hanson. Okay. That's the

1426
01:03:52,510 --> 01:03:54,177
benefit that issue as well.

1427
01:03:54,177 --> 01:03:56,881
There's you know, when we look

1428
01:03:56,881 --> 01:03:59,751
at the the congestion and the

1429
01:03:59,751 --> 01:04:02,751
travel time variance, we saw

1430
01:04:03,354 --> 01:04:05,156
that it was very unreliable on

1431
01:04:05,156 --> 01:04:06,224
an ongoing, you know, it was

1432
01:04:06,224 --> 01:04:07,425
reliably bad. That's what I'm

1433
01:04:07,425 --> 01:04:09,260
trying to say, which you don't

1434
01:04:09,260 --> 01:04:10,361
see very often. So it does

1435
01:04:10,361 --> 01:04:12,363
indicate a really significant

1436
01:04:12,363 --> 01:04:13,765
problem for that early morning

1437
01:04:13,765 --> 01:04:15,600
ag commute. And during your

1438
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,350
study on the road, did you see

1439
01:04:17,350 --> 01:04:18,803
anybody going off road to

1440
01:04:18,803 --> 01:04:20,304
bypass the traffic? You know,

1441
01:04:20,304 --> 01:04:21,973
our roadway safety audit, we

1442
01:04:21,973 --> 01:04:23,410
did recognize that. But we

1443
01:04:23,410 --> 01:04:24,242
heard that plenty from the

1444
01:04:24,242 --> 01:04:25,977
public that folks use the

1445
01:04:25,977 --> 01:04:27,478
shoulder as a bypass lane. And

1446
01:04:27,478 --> 01:04:29,314
that's not good. So we we

1447
01:04:29,314 --> 01:04:31,482
recognize that as a major issue.

1448
01:04:31,482 --> 01:04:32,884
Thank you. Yeah. And I will say

1449
01:04:32,884 --> 01:04:34,180
that the stakeholder advisory

1450
01:04:34,180 --> 01:04:36,870
committee regarding the Santa

1451
01:04:36,870 --> 01:04:38,456
Maria River Levee trail, one of

1452
01:04:38,456 --> 01:04:39,724
the big concerns was, was there

1453
01:04:39,724 --> 01:04:41,559
going to be adequate fencing to

1454
01:04:41,559 --> 01:04:44,559
protect the ag fields from

1455
01:04:45,269 --> 01:04:48,269
folks who are using the

1456
01:04:50,277 --> 01:04:50,501
facility and cost estimates, as

1457
01:04:50,501 --> 01:04:50,942
well as our description of the

1458
01:04:50,942 --> 01:04:51,400
project is, yeah, it'll be two

1459
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:55,000
layers of fencing to keep folks

1460
01:04:56,347 --> 01:04:56,518
from compromising or getting

1461
01:04:56,518 --> 01:04:56,679
into the I believe I spoke to

1462
01:04:56,679 --> 01:04:57,408
the farmers locally there and

1463
01:04:57,408 --> 01:04:58,476
they are concerned about people

1464
01:04:58,476 --> 01:04:59,543
that are going through the

1465
01:04:59,543 --> 01:05:01,279
landfill. That's very important.

1466
01:05:01,279 --> 01:05:02,380
Thank you for doing that. I

1467
01:05:02,380 --> 01:05:03,280
agree, thank you. Director Lee,

1468
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:04,515
Director Hartman, director,

1469
01:05:04,515 --> 01:05:06,915
then director Lavagnino. And

1470
01:05:07,151 --> 01:05:09,520
then I'll go to Santa Maria. I

1471
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,520
was just curious about your

1472
01:05:13,570 --> 01:05:16,570
analysis for benefit cost. So

1473
01:05:16,461 --> 01:05:19,631
the cost takes in the entire

1474
01:05:19,631 --> 01:05:21,650
set of projects, including the

1475
01:05:21,650 --> 01:05:23,234
vans and the bus transit.

1476
01:05:23,234 --> 01:05:24,869
Correct. And then describe more

1477
01:05:24,869 --> 01:05:26,470
how you calculate the benefit.

1478
01:05:26,470 --> 01:05:29,720
You said what wasn't part of it,

1479
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:31,509
but how do you how do you nail

1480
01:05:31,509 --> 01:05:33,311
that down? Right. So yeah, you

1481
01:05:33,311 --> 01:05:35,790
know, costing improvements

1482
01:05:35,790 --> 01:05:36,146
that's been around for a long,

1483
01:05:36,146 --> 01:05:38,383
long, long, long time.

1484
01:05:38,383 --> 01:05:40,184
Engineers are very good at that.

1485
01:05:40,184 --> 01:05:42,584
Monetizing benefits is really

1486
01:05:42,754 --> 01:05:45,156
the the new aspect of of of all

1487
01:05:45,156 --> 01:05:46,623
this. And it's all based on

1488
01:05:46,623 --> 01:05:47,992
data that's published by

1489
01:05:47,992 --> 01:05:49,961
Caltrans. It's called the

1490
01:05:49,961 --> 01:05:51,629
societal costs. And they you

1491
01:05:51,629 --> 01:05:54,566
know, there's there's value to

1492
01:05:54,566 --> 01:05:56,340
time. So that value of time is

1493
01:05:56,340 --> 01:05:58,340
incorporated into delay

1494
01:05:58,169 --> 01:06:00,169
reduction travel time

1495
01:06:00,371 --> 01:06:02,140
reliability because it's called

1496
01:06:02,140 --> 01:06:04,420
buffer time. If you want to

1497
01:06:04,420 --> 01:06:06,442
reach your destination 95% of

1498
01:06:06,477 --> 01:06:07,512
the time, but because of the

1499
01:06:07,512 --> 01:06:09,460
conditions of the facility,

1500
01:06:09,460 --> 01:06:10,715
makes that very variable. And

1501
01:06:10,715 --> 01:06:12,617
we have 12 months of data to

1502
01:06:12,617 --> 01:06:14,185
show how variable it is. It's

1503
01:06:14,185 --> 01:06:15,853
the amount of time people have

1504
01:06:15,853 --> 01:06:17,880
to leave early to make sure

1505
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:19,570
they can get to their

1506
01:06:19,570 --> 01:06:21,259
destination. 95% of the time,

1507
01:06:21,259 --> 01:06:21,926
that's their time. So it can be

1508
01:06:21,926 --> 01:06:23,494
monetized. You know, they'd

1509
01:06:23,494 --> 01:06:25,630
rather be at home with their

1510
01:06:25,630 --> 01:06:27,498
families than leaving early and

1511
01:06:27,498 --> 01:06:29,167
maybe arriving work early, but

1512
01:06:29,167 --> 01:06:31,200
maybe on time they don't know.

1513
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,838
So that can all be monetized by

1514
01:06:33,838 --> 01:06:36,673
the value of time on road,

1515
01:06:36,673 --> 01:06:38,476
mobile source emissions, all

1516
01:06:38,476 --> 01:06:39,978
those, you know, criteria.

1517
01:06:39,978 --> 01:06:41,412
Health based pollutants have a

1518
01:06:41,412 --> 01:06:42,914
societal cost associated with

1519
01:06:42,914 --> 01:06:45,914
them. That's all been developed

1520
01:06:46,117 --> 01:06:48,285
by epa and Caltrans. And so we

1521
01:06:48,285 --> 01:06:51,189
have a whole list of all those

1522
01:06:51,189 --> 01:06:52,590
monetized costs that we can

1523
01:06:52,590 --> 01:06:54,359
calculate the measure

1524
01:06:54,359 --> 01:06:56,594
effectiveness and monetize that

1525
01:06:56,594 --> 01:06:58,296
benefit. And and then could you

1526
01:06:58,296 --> 01:07:01,296
elaborate on the gross regional

1527
01:07:01,466 --> 01:07:03,268
product, the 12 million value,

1528
01:07:03,268 --> 01:07:04,535
how that relates or doesn't. So

1529
01:07:04,535 --> 01:07:06,937
that that is a good question.

1530
01:07:06,937 --> 01:07:08,373
That is specific to the

1531
01:07:08,373 --> 01:07:09,440
construction activity. So

1532
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:10,909
assuming that all the

1533
01:07:10,909 --> 01:07:12,909
improvements get constructed,

1534
01:07:13,478 --> 01:07:16,470
that's going to add jobs to the

1535
01:07:16,470 --> 01:07:17,282
construction sector. Yeah.

1536
01:07:17,282 --> 01:07:18,549
Thank you. All right. Thank you,

1537
01:07:18,549 --> 01:07:20,485
Director Hartman. Director

1538
01:07:20,485 --> 01:07:22,487
Lavagnino, thank you. And well,

1539
01:07:22,487 --> 01:07:25,622
first I just want to thank sb,

1540
01:07:25,622 --> 01:07:26,891
cag staff and the members that

1541
01:07:26,891 --> 01:07:28,260
this is this is something

1542
01:07:28,260 --> 01:07:29,861
that's been a long time coming.

1543
01:07:29,861 --> 01:07:31,129
I mean, this we probably should

1544
01:07:31,129 --> 01:07:32,897
have started this 15, 20 years

1545
01:07:32,897 --> 01:07:33,932
ago so that we were actually

1546
01:07:33,932 --> 01:07:35,732
doing work now instead of

1547
01:07:35,732 --> 01:07:36,868
looking at what we could be

1548
01:07:36,868 --> 01:07:38,736
doing. But, you know, we've got

1549
01:07:38,736 --> 01:07:39,771
a lot of priorities in this

1550
01:07:39,771 --> 01:07:40,938
county. So I understand. But

1551
01:07:40,938 --> 01:07:42,941
it's I appreciate where we are

1552
01:07:42,941 --> 01:07:44,108
right now. So can you just

1553
01:07:44,108 --> 01:07:47,108
refresh my memory when when

1554
01:07:47,745 --> 01:07:50,181
does measure a when do we

1555
01:07:50,181 --> 01:07:51,583
finish measure a expires in

1556
01:07:51,583 --> 01:07:53,983
2040 okay. This board has

1557
01:07:54,850 --> 01:07:57,685
directed to pursue a measure in

1558
01:07:57,722 --> 01:07:59,324
2032. Okay. Great. So so what

1559
01:07:59,324 --> 01:08:00,458
I'm hearing is in that short

1560
01:08:00,458 --> 01:08:01,459
term, those ones that you've

1561
01:08:01,459 --> 01:08:02,626
identified, which two of them

1562
01:08:02,626 --> 01:08:04,329
are actually construction on,

1563
01:08:04,329 --> 01:08:05,430
the other two are, you know,

1564
01:08:05,430 --> 01:08:07,310
kind of working around some,

1565
01:08:07,310 --> 01:08:09,431
some issues we're anticipating

1566
01:08:11,690 --> 01:08:13,171
we would do those before 2040

1567
01:08:13,171 --> 01:08:14,571
with the current measure a,

1568
01:08:14,571 --> 01:08:15,840
there is no measure a

1569
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,642
identified for this corridor at

1570
01:08:17,642 --> 01:08:18,743
this point in time. So what

1571
01:08:18,743 --> 01:08:20,110
we're saying is we could

1572
01:08:20,110 --> 01:08:21,946
identify state funding and

1573
01:08:21,946 --> 01:08:23,414
federal funding possibly to to

1574
01:08:23,414 --> 01:08:24,515
to do these. It would be

1575
01:08:24,515 --> 01:08:26,351
outside these other ones that

1576
01:08:26,351 --> 01:08:28,720
are in the midterm. They would

1577
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:29,887
be a a wish list that we would

1578
01:08:29,887 --> 01:08:31,689
send to voters that these are

1579
01:08:31,689 --> 01:08:32,890
things that we would like to

1580
01:08:32,890 --> 01:08:34,826
get done. And inside of that,

1581
01:08:34,826 --> 01:08:36,561
are we or are we not. Do you

1582
01:08:36,561 --> 01:08:37,695
anticipate now talking about

1583
01:08:37,695 --> 01:08:40,231
widening to four lanes, or is

1584
01:08:40,231 --> 01:08:43,231
that something outside of that?

1585
01:08:43,501 --> 01:08:46,370
It's up to this board okay.

1586
01:08:46,370 --> 01:08:47,805
Okay. So just I'm curious on

1587
01:08:47,805 --> 01:08:49,974
these just on these even in the

1588
01:08:49,974 --> 01:08:51,420
midterm ones, but on the even

1589
01:08:51,420 --> 01:08:52,844
in the intersection lighting

1590
01:08:52,844 --> 01:08:54,879
and the pavement driving is

1591
01:08:54,879 --> 01:08:56,780
that 42 million seems pretty

1592
01:08:56,780 --> 01:08:58,616
low to me, which it does. It's

1593
01:08:58,616 --> 01:09:00,718
only because we deal with so

1594
01:09:00,718 --> 01:09:01,920
many high numbers here. But is

1595
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:03,488
that actually have we looked at

1596
01:09:03,488 --> 01:09:05,389
the right of way because some

1597
01:09:05,389 --> 01:09:06,523
of those farms I mean, I know

1598
01:09:06,523 --> 01:09:08,392
we're going to be taking

1599
01:09:08,392 --> 01:09:09,394
anytime you do any work on the

1600
01:09:09,394 --> 01:09:11,394
166, you're talking about

1601
01:09:11,930 --> 01:09:13,310
impacting Prime ag. And I'm

1602
01:09:13,310 --> 01:09:14,866
just curious if we've done

1603
01:09:14,866 --> 01:09:16,967
those studies, looked at that,

1604
01:09:16,967 --> 01:09:18,369
we did for the lighting. You

1605
01:09:18,369 --> 01:09:20,238
know, a lot of these are low

1606
01:09:20,238 --> 01:09:22,400
cost improvement concepts. And

1607
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:23,808
so that's the beauty of it. But

1608
01:09:23,808 --> 01:09:25,760
very astute observation. 42

1609
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:28,676
million in the big scheme of

1610
01:09:28,746 --> 01:09:30,615
things is not that much. And so

1611
01:09:30,615 --> 01:09:32,383
the lighting in terms of the

1612
01:09:32,383 --> 01:09:33,651
cobra heads and the poles, a

1613
01:09:33,651 --> 01:09:35,553
lot of that can be done within

1614
01:09:35,553 --> 01:09:38,890
right of way. So there wouldn't

1615
01:09:38,890 --> 01:09:40,358
be any take the driveway aprons.

1616
01:09:40,358 --> 01:09:42,927
That's a mix. There probably

1617
01:09:42,927 --> 01:09:44,796
will be some some right of way

1618
01:09:44,796 --> 01:09:46,598
that's not Caltrans to make

1619
01:09:46,598 --> 01:09:48,998
those effective. We think

1620
01:09:49,634 --> 01:09:51,769
that's a good public private

1621
01:09:51,769 --> 01:09:54,705
type of improvement that folks

1622
01:09:54,705 --> 01:09:58,900
can rally behind. But we'll see.

1623
01:09:58,900 --> 01:09:59,344
But I think most of the

1624
01:09:59,344 --> 01:10:00,778
businesses, the ag, they would

1625
01:10:00,778 --> 01:10:02,146
welcome that because it's a,

1626
01:10:02,146 --> 01:10:03,147
you know, it's a safety issue

1627
01:10:03,147 --> 01:10:04,816
for their people, their

1628
01:10:04,816 --> 01:10:06,184
vehicles, their workers. And

1629
01:10:06,184 --> 01:10:07,685
then final question, I guess,

1630
01:10:07,685 --> 01:10:09,821
is so in your professional

1631
01:10:09,821 --> 01:10:11,956
opinion, how do you think these

1632
01:10:11,956 --> 01:10:13,858
midterm projects would rack and

1633
01:10:13,858 --> 01:10:16,327
stack against, you know, as far

1634
01:10:16,327 --> 01:10:17,795
as being able to actually see

1635
01:10:17,795 --> 01:10:19,197
possibility of funding? Yeah,

1636
01:10:19,197 --> 01:10:20,965
it depends on the program

1637
01:10:20,965 --> 01:10:22,767
itself. One program that we

1638
01:10:22,767 --> 01:10:24,201
highlight that we feel is

1639
01:10:24,201 --> 01:10:25,670
probably the strongest is the

1640
01:10:25,670 --> 01:10:27,670
Trade Quarter Enhancement

1641
01:10:28,540 --> 01:10:30,308
program from Caltrans sb one,

1642
01:10:30,308 --> 01:10:32,544
and that is a competitive

1643
01:10:32,544 --> 01:10:35,113
program. I think we have a very

1644
01:10:35,113 --> 01:10:36,447
competitive benefit cost. We

1645
01:10:36,447 --> 01:10:38,415
have safety improvements. You

1646
01:10:38,415 --> 01:10:40,585
know, we have a lot of a good

1647
01:10:40,585 --> 01:10:43,540
mix of projects from transit

1648
01:10:43,540 --> 01:10:44,155
vans, you name it, driveway

1649
01:10:44,155 --> 01:10:45,490
aprons, which is very unique.

1650
01:10:45,490 --> 01:10:47,191
This is the first quarter study

1651
01:10:47,191 --> 01:10:49,127
that I've been a part of. I've

1652
01:10:49,127 --> 01:10:50,461
been part of too many. But that

1653
01:10:50,461 --> 01:10:51,729
driveway aprons was even an

1654
01:10:51,729 --> 01:10:54,729
improvement. So it's kind of

1655
01:10:55,660 --> 01:10:56,834
unique. So my my aspiration is

1656
01:10:56,834 --> 01:10:57,834
that we can compete well for

1657
01:10:57,834 --> 01:11:00,234
the trade quarter enhancement

1658
01:11:00,305 --> 01:11:01,706
program. Another good one is

1659
01:11:01,706 --> 01:11:03,706
highway Safety Improvement

1660
01:11:03,807 --> 01:11:05,376
program. Okay. Thank you. By

1661
01:11:05,376 --> 01:11:08,213
the way, that was former sb

1662
01:11:08,213 --> 01:11:10,613
member Larry Lavagnino calling.

1663
01:11:10,715 --> 01:11:11,983
I have a correction. There is a

1664
01:11:11,983 --> 01:11:14,850
project in the current measure,

1665
01:11:14,850 --> 01:11:15,320
a program that's the Betteravia

1666
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:16,454
101 project that is funded

1667
01:11:16,454 --> 01:11:18,223
through the measure a, that we

1668
01:11:18,223 --> 01:11:20,257
will be applying for additional

1669
01:11:20,257 --> 01:11:22,160
funds to implement that project,

1670
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:23,928
but it's not on the 166. So

1671
01:11:23,928 --> 01:11:25,290
thank you. Thank you. All right.

1672
01:11:25,290 --> 01:11:26,431
Thank you. I'm gonna go to

1673
01:11:26,431 --> 01:11:28,666
Santa Maria for some comments

1674
01:11:28,666 --> 01:11:30,602
or questions. Then I'm going to

1675
01:11:30,602 --> 01:11:31,970
come back up here for then for

1676
01:11:31,970 --> 01:11:34,739
Director Silva. Thank you. And

1677
01:11:34,739 --> 01:11:37,375
I know this is about the Bonita

1678
01:11:37,375 --> 01:11:38,676
Bonita school. And I know we've

1679
01:11:38,676 --> 01:11:39,944
had discussions about this

1680
01:11:39,944 --> 01:11:41,980
before. And Director Nelson, I

1681
01:11:41,980 --> 01:11:44,380
can't remember exactly what,

1682
01:11:44,482 --> 01:11:46,651
but I know that property was

1683
01:11:46,651 --> 01:11:49,254
deeded only to be used as a

1684
01:11:49,254 --> 01:11:52,220
school. And and so there's just

1685
01:11:52,220 --> 01:11:53,958
a lot of problems getting into

1686
01:11:53,958 --> 01:11:55,293
what happens. And I know the

1687
01:11:55,293 --> 01:11:56,761
school district spoke to us

1688
01:11:56,761 --> 01:11:57,995
several years ago, and you

1689
01:11:57,995 --> 01:12:00,832
probably know more about it

1690
01:12:00,832 --> 01:12:02,166
than I do, but it's it's really

1691
01:12:02,166 --> 01:12:03,668
a challenge to have to deal

1692
01:12:03,668 --> 01:12:05,690
with that. And of course, those

1693
01:12:05,690 --> 01:12:06,771
students do come from Santa

1694
01:12:06,771 --> 01:12:10,371
Maria and they are bust out

1695
01:12:11,976 --> 01:12:14,780
there. I want to ask about I

1696
01:12:14,780 --> 01:12:16,948
really want to confirm the the

1697
01:12:16,948 --> 01:12:19,317
time, the peak hours study

1698
01:12:19,317 --> 01:12:20,485
again, because you've got black

1699
01:12:20,485 --> 01:12:22,687
and betteravia, you've got

1700
01:12:22,687 --> 01:12:25,890
black and stole and you've got

1701
01:12:25,890 --> 01:12:28,890
Blosser that concern us. What

1702
01:12:30,228 --> 01:12:32,830
time was that peak hour study?

1703
01:12:32,830 --> 01:12:36,430
So the the what we're calling

1704
01:12:38,469 --> 01:12:41,673
the early am, I believe is from

1705
01:12:41,673 --> 01:12:44,209
5 to 6 and then the commuter Am

1706
01:12:44,209 --> 01:12:47,111
is the typical seven, you know,

1707
01:12:47,111 --> 01:12:48,713
8 to 9 or 730 to 830. I'll have

1708
01:12:48,713 --> 01:12:50,748
to check. And then the

1709
01:12:50,748 --> 01:12:53,148
traditional pm peak is 435

1710
01:12:55,453 --> 01:12:57,222
three. Because that 5:00 is

1711
01:12:57,222 --> 01:12:58,823
it's it's really important.

1712
01:12:58,823 --> 01:13:00,390
8:00 9:00 it doesn't really

1713
01:13:00,390 --> 01:13:03,390
matter because that's not when

1714
01:13:05,163 --> 01:13:07,966
that is so impacted there. On

1715
01:13:07,966 --> 01:13:10,902
Blosser and 166 we really need

1716
01:13:10,902 --> 01:13:13,902
the two left turn northbound

1717
01:13:15,273 --> 01:13:17,709
lanes going east, going north.

1718
01:13:17,709 --> 01:13:19,143
And I didn't see that there. So

1719
01:13:19,143 --> 01:13:21,346
that's something that we need.

1720
01:13:21,346 --> 01:13:24,346
Then coming down Blosser and

1721
01:13:24,549 --> 01:13:26,718
going west on 166 again that

1722
01:13:26,718 --> 01:13:28,519
left turn pocket gets gets

1723
01:13:28,519 --> 01:13:30,221
packed. It just gets packed.

1724
01:13:30,221 --> 01:13:32,357
The it is probably bumper to

1725
01:13:32,357 --> 01:13:35,326
bumper from Main Street all the

1726
01:13:35,326 --> 01:13:38,196
way up to probably betteravia.

1727
01:13:38,196 --> 01:13:40,465
I know pastel so that's really

1728
01:13:40,465 --> 01:13:42,200
an impact. And so that I know

1729
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:45,200
when we went through the

1730
01:13:45,370 --> 01:13:48,970
roundabout issue and we did the

1731
01:13:50,108 --> 01:13:52,508
the signalized intersection at

1732
01:13:52,577 --> 01:13:55,113
166 and black, that went on for

1733
01:13:55,113 --> 01:13:56,548
years. And, and I went to all

1734
01:13:56,548 --> 01:13:58,948
those meetings with focus

1735
01:13:59,117 --> 01:14:01,986
groups. Not one person, not one

1736
01:14:01,986 --> 01:14:04,220
person at that time ever, ever

1737
01:14:04,220 --> 01:14:06,758
spoke in favor of a roundabout.

1738
01:14:06,758 --> 01:14:08,660
And yet we spent years going

1739
01:14:08,660 --> 01:14:11,796
through that. And it was it was

1740
01:14:11,796 --> 01:14:13,464
like Caltrans. Caltrans was

1741
01:14:13,464 --> 01:14:14,499
trying to push that on us, and

1742
01:14:14,499 --> 01:14:16,401
everyone was saying that it

1743
01:14:16,401 --> 01:14:17,769
doesn't work. So I just think

1744
01:14:17,769 --> 01:14:21,369
that those kinds of things are

1745
01:14:22,173 --> 01:14:25,760
important. The I'm thinking of

1746
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:27,879
the day that we were out on 166

1747
01:14:27,879 --> 01:14:28,880
in black and celebrating the

1748
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:30,481
intersection, and I'm sitting

1749
01:14:30,481 --> 01:14:32,649
there watching and there's chp

1750
01:14:32,649 --> 01:14:35,787
there, and a car runs the red

1751
01:14:35,787 --> 01:14:37,422
light and and then a little

1752
01:14:37,422 --> 01:14:39,824
while later, a truck runs the

1753
01:14:39,824 --> 01:14:42,392
red light. So it is a very,

1754
01:14:42,392 --> 01:14:44,429
very dangerous road. And during

1755
01:14:44,429 --> 01:14:46,698
those peak hours it's four

1756
01:14:46,698 --> 01:14:49,670
lanes and not two lanes. So

1757
01:14:49,670 --> 01:14:50,234
it's something that we between

1758
01:14:50,234 --> 01:14:52,770
Guadalupe and Santa Maria we do

1759
01:14:52,770 --> 01:14:53,838
care about. There's a lot of

1760
01:14:53,838 --> 01:14:56,407
accidents out there all the

1761
01:14:56,407 --> 01:14:57,942
time. And I want to ask you and

1762
01:14:57,942 --> 01:14:59,277
Margie, maybe you know this,

1763
01:14:59,277 --> 01:15:00,945
but I heard on the radio that

1764
01:15:00,945 --> 01:15:03,281
California has the most unsafe.

1765
01:15:03,281 --> 01:15:05,717
We're number one in the most

1766
01:15:05,717 --> 01:15:09,317
unsafe roads. And I didn't know

1767
01:15:10,154 --> 01:15:12,900
what study that was done.

1768
01:15:12,900 --> 01:15:13,558
Anyway, our public works

1769
01:15:13,558 --> 01:15:17,158
director is here. If he would

1770
01:15:19,130 --> 01:15:21,900
like to comment on anything.

1771
01:15:21,900 --> 01:15:22,667
Thank you. All right. Director

1772
01:15:22,667 --> 01:15:24,335
Patino, do you have a question

1773
01:15:24,335 --> 01:15:27,372
for him that you'd like to have

1774
01:15:27,372 --> 01:15:28,940
answered? Or you? I yes, for

1775
01:15:28,940 --> 01:15:30,410
you. I just wanted to make

1776
01:15:30,410 --> 01:15:31,175
those comments. Okay. Yeah.

1777
01:15:31,175 --> 01:15:32,343
Thank you. And if you'd like to

1778
01:15:32,343 --> 01:15:33,944
speak during public comment,

1779
01:15:33,944 --> 01:15:35,480
we'll absolutely give him that

1780
01:15:35,480 --> 01:15:37,314
opportunity to or the directors

1781
01:15:37,314 --> 01:15:38,449
up here or down there will have

1782
01:15:38,449 --> 01:15:39,517
some questions for him. We'll

1783
01:15:39,517 --> 01:15:40,552
make sure that's available.

1784
01:15:40,552 --> 01:15:42,320
Okay. And I'm sure Director

1785
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:43,588
Julian has things to say. Thank

1786
01:15:43,588 --> 01:15:46,240
you. I'm sure he has director

1787
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:47,725
Julian. Yes. Thank you for the

1788
01:15:47,725 --> 01:15:49,761
update. And one of the, one of

1789
01:15:49,761 --> 01:15:51,950
the things that local residents

1790
01:15:51,950 --> 01:15:53,565
are looking at, chp, I know

1791
01:15:53,565 --> 01:15:57,165
that there was a study with

1792
01:15:57,235 --> 01:15:58,636
about a quarter of the chp

1793
01:15:58,636 --> 01:16:00,400
ticketing, and that is a big

1794
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:01,239
issue. We still have people,

1795
01:16:01,239 --> 01:16:02,941
especially if you're not going

1796
01:16:02,941 --> 01:16:05,577
to have a four lane for for

1797
01:16:05,577 --> 01:16:07,979
decades or whatever. We need

1798
01:16:07,979 --> 01:16:09,847
chp doing more of the, you know,

1799
01:16:09,847 --> 01:16:12,283
roads, routes out in that area.

1800
01:16:12,283 --> 01:16:13,418
You know, trucks are not a

1801
01:16:13,418 --> 01:16:15,286
problem. Maybe because we're

1802
01:16:15,286 --> 01:16:17,210
used to that. Trucks slow

1803
01:16:17,210 --> 01:16:19,424
people down to the 55 miles an

1804
01:16:19,424 --> 01:16:20,959
hour. So trucks, we have a good

1805
01:16:20,959 --> 01:16:22,526
relationship with the truckers.

1806
01:16:22,526 --> 01:16:24,996
And one of the things too, and

1807
01:16:24,996 --> 01:16:27,298
I know that director Nelson is

1808
01:16:27,298 --> 01:16:29,600
on caravans, but when people

1809
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:31,369
from Santa Maria go to San Luis

1810
01:16:31,369 --> 01:16:32,737
County, across the bridge,

1811
01:16:32,737 --> 01:16:35,137
Santa Maria River bridge,

1812
01:16:35,139 --> 01:16:36,908
there's a lot of development,

1813
01:16:36,908 --> 01:16:39,644
not a lot of development, a lot

1814
01:16:39,644 --> 01:16:41,479
of grow. Right after the bridge

1815
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:44,616
on the on the north side, north

1816
01:16:44,616 --> 01:16:46,851
side of the river, literally

1817
01:16:46,851 --> 01:16:49,721
hundreds of cars are there. And

1818
01:16:49,721 --> 01:16:50,855
we need to. And especially

1819
01:16:50,855 --> 01:16:53,855
Guadalupe. I know that there's

1820
01:16:54,425 --> 01:16:56,194
a call for more chp or Caltrans.

1821
01:16:56,194 --> 01:16:57,462
That's a good that's a that's

1822
01:16:57,462 --> 01:16:59,330
really necessary. But what we

1823
01:16:59,330 --> 01:17:01,232
need to do in terms of

1824
01:17:01,232 --> 01:17:03,501
Guadalupe is to make I see very

1825
01:17:03,501 --> 01:17:05,904
few caravans, vehicles in the

1826
01:17:05,904 --> 01:17:07,405
city of Guadalupe. And if we're

1827
01:17:07,405 --> 01:17:09,400
having 15 additional fans

1828
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:11,743
really need to do our homework

1829
01:17:11,743 --> 01:17:13,211
and make sure that the local

1830
01:17:13,211 --> 01:17:14,312
farmworkers know that that's,

1831
01:17:14,312 --> 01:17:15,880
you know, that's there for

1832
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:18,616
their use. Also, the increase

1833
01:17:18,616 --> 01:17:19,817
in road trips from an hour to

1834
01:17:19,817 --> 01:17:21,619
30 minutes to and from Santa

1835
01:17:21,619 --> 01:17:23,354
Maria is is really helpful for

1836
01:17:23,354 --> 01:17:25,560
the community of Guadalupe. And

1837
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:27,225
then in the future, we've got

1838
01:17:27,225 --> 01:17:28,393
another 18 acres of commercial

1839
01:17:28,393 --> 01:17:29,327
that hopefully that'll be

1840
01:17:29,327 --> 01:17:31,129
developed to where people don't

1841
01:17:31,129 --> 01:17:32,630
have to go to Santa Maria for

1842
01:17:32,630 --> 01:17:35,300
every everyday shopping in

1843
01:17:35,466 --> 01:17:38,269
terms of groceries. And and

1844
01:17:38,269 --> 01:17:39,437
again, our most of our people

1845
01:17:39,437 --> 01:17:41,272
are employed in Santa Maria. So

1846
01:17:41,272 --> 01:17:42,273
it really makes a difference in

1847
01:17:42,273 --> 01:17:43,574
making improvements on this

1848
01:17:43,574 --> 01:17:46,344
highway. 166 so thank you for

1849
01:17:46,344 --> 01:17:47,712
the report. All right. Thank

1850
01:17:47,712 --> 01:17:49,981
you. Thank you, Director Julian.

1851
01:17:49,981 --> 01:17:51,182
Director Silva, thank you. Just

1852
01:17:51,182 --> 01:17:52,182
kind of piggybacking off of

1853
01:17:52,182 --> 01:17:53,351
what Director Hartman mentioned

1854
01:17:53,351 --> 01:17:54,953
with societal benefit. I just

1855
01:17:54,953 --> 01:17:56,721
was curious. I don't know if

1856
01:17:56,721 --> 01:17:57,822
it's the factoid of you saying

1857
01:17:57,822 --> 01:17:59,691
one hour equals one day of

1858
01:17:59,691 --> 01:18:00,858
shelf life, considering the

1859
01:18:00,858 --> 01:18:02,727
fact that we have a traffic

1860
01:18:02,727 --> 01:18:03,995
issue going on right now. I was

1861
01:18:03,995 --> 01:18:05,663
curious if you could maybe walk

1862
01:18:05,663 --> 01:18:06,798
through, do we anticipate while

1863
01:18:06,798 --> 01:18:07,832
we're looking at a 20 year

1864
01:18:07,832 --> 01:18:09,100
construction plan, whatever

1865
01:18:09,100 --> 01:18:10,702
that looked like, exacerbating

1866
01:18:10,702 --> 01:18:12,537
the traffic issue? And was that

1867
01:18:12,537 --> 01:18:14,239
analyzed in the cost of the

1868
01:18:14,239 --> 01:18:15,406
project, or are we I just don't

1869
01:18:15,406 --> 01:18:17,242
know how you would mitigate

1870
01:18:17,242 --> 01:18:18,443
that. Are we possibly as a body

1871
01:18:18,443 --> 01:18:20,345
just so that we're aware? Are

1872
01:18:20,345 --> 01:18:21,880
we going to have to expect that

1873
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:23,314
there will be delays by nature

1874
01:18:23,314 --> 01:18:25,830
of construction taking place,

1875
01:18:25,830 --> 01:18:25,884
and that could impact the

1876
01:18:25,884 --> 01:18:27,485
transportation going on and

1877
01:18:27,485 --> 01:18:30,822
what that has been studied or

1878
01:18:30,822 --> 01:18:32,900
what that looks like. Okay. Two

1879
01:18:32,900 --> 01:18:34,225
questions. The first question

1880
01:18:34,225 --> 01:18:36,728
is that the the existing

1881
01:18:36,728 --> 01:18:39,197
conditions analysis was and the

1882
01:18:39,197 --> 01:18:40,198
public input predicated our

1883
01:18:40,198 --> 01:18:41,865
selection of the improvements.

1884
01:18:41,865 --> 01:18:43,902
But the performance analysis of

1885
01:18:43,902 --> 01:18:45,969
those improvements was based on

1886
01:18:45,969 --> 01:18:48,473
future conditions. And so we

1887
01:18:48,473 --> 01:18:50,708
rely on sb travel demand model

1888
01:18:50,708 --> 01:18:52,510
and other resources to know how

1889
01:18:52,510 --> 01:18:55,130
much traffic was going to grow.

1890
01:18:55,130 --> 01:18:56,514
So when these improvements were

1891
01:18:56,514 --> 01:18:58,383
operational, open to the public

1892
01:18:58,383 --> 01:19:00,150
and the traveling public, that

1893
01:19:00,150 --> 01:19:02,253
that benefit was derived from

1894
01:19:02,253 --> 01:19:04,655
the from future demand. So I

1895
01:19:04,655 --> 01:19:07,225
think that address your first

1896
01:19:07,225 --> 01:19:09,270
question. The second question,

1897
01:19:09,270 --> 01:19:10,828
can you repeat it? I'm sorry.

1898
01:19:10,828 --> 01:19:12,863
It's really just understanding

1899
01:19:12,863 --> 01:19:14,132
in in once these improvements

1900
01:19:14,132 --> 01:19:16,634
start taking place, do we have

1901
01:19:16,634 --> 01:19:17,869
an understanding of if we would

1902
01:19:17,869 --> 01:19:19,637
anticipate delays that will

1903
01:19:19,637 --> 01:19:21,390
have economic impact? Is there

1904
01:19:21,390 --> 01:19:22,106
ways that we have gone through

1905
01:19:22,106 --> 01:19:23,241
with how we're going to

1906
01:19:23,241 --> 01:19:24,441
mitigate that? I just wasn't

1907
01:19:24,441 --> 01:19:26,211
sure exactly of being mindful

1908
01:19:26,211 --> 01:19:27,378
of actions taken. It's not

1909
01:19:27,378 --> 01:19:28,545
saying we don't need to solve

1910
01:19:28,545 --> 01:19:30,181
the problem, but there's always

1911
01:19:30,181 --> 01:19:31,181
that when you're solving a

1912
01:19:31,181 --> 01:19:32,316
problem, you know, the

1913
01:19:32,316 --> 01:19:33,318
treatment can often cause some

1914
01:19:33,318 --> 01:19:34,419
issues. While we're going

1915
01:19:34,419 --> 01:19:36,221
through that, I just curious

1916
01:19:36,221 --> 01:19:37,355
what that looks like or if

1917
01:19:37,355 --> 01:19:38,323
we've done that study. No. Good

1918
01:19:38,323 --> 01:19:39,357
question. Construction, phasing

1919
01:19:39,357 --> 01:19:40,792
and delays associated with the

1920
01:19:40,792 --> 01:19:42,126
construction of improvements

1921
01:19:42,126 --> 01:19:44,596
that is not incorporated into

1922
01:19:44,596 --> 01:19:45,830
our study. Like I said before,

1923
01:19:45,830 --> 01:19:47,932
the good news is that many of

1924
01:19:47,932 --> 01:19:50,435
these are not significant in

1925
01:19:50,435 --> 01:19:53,338
terms of disruption to existing

1926
01:19:53,338 --> 01:19:55,907
traffic. In my opinion, the

1927
01:19:55,907 --> 01:19:58,307
experience that 166 and Black

1928
01:19:58,376 --> 01:20:00,511
Road, I don't know what the

1929
01:20:00,511 --> 01:20:02,280
history when that project was

1930
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:05,280
implemented to install a signal,

1931
01:20:05,617 --> 01:20:07,385
but it would be similar to that

1932
01:20:07,385 --> 01:20:09,120
is a good analogy in terms of

1933
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:11,220
disruption to traffic. Now, of

1934
01:20:11,220 --> 01:20:12,724
course, that longer term

1935
01:20:12,724 --> 01:20:14,225
improvement that's going to be

1936
01:20:14,225 --> 01:20:16,260
significant and construction

1937
01:20:16,260 --> 01:20:17,895
phasing will be pretty

1938
01:20:17,895 --> 01:20:19,697
complicated on how we can keep

1939
01:20:19,697 --> 01:20:21,632
the traffic moving on. 166

1940
01:20:21,632 --> 01:20:24,320
while that's being constructed,

1941
01:20:25,736 --> 01:20:27,505
if it ever does. Yeah, right.

1942
01:20:27,505 --> 01:20:29,905
Director Perotti. Thank you.

1943
01:20:31,142 --> 01:20:32,911
Chair. Going back to Director

1944
01:20:32,911 --> 01:20:35,450
Pitino's question about the

1945
01:20:35,450 --> 01:20:36,781
schools, the school. What's the

1946
01:20:36,781 --> 01:20:39,500
issue at the school? Is it

1947
01:20:39,500 --> 01:20:41,519
traffic? Getting into the class,

1948
01:20:41,519 --> 01:20:45,119
into school by parents? Is that

1949
01:20:45,490 --> 01:20:47,890
kids walking, biking busses?

1950
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:49,827
What what's their their concern?

1951
01:20:49,827 --> 01:20:51,629
And I'm assuming you've gone to

1952
01:20:51,629 --> 01:20:53,730
the school and talked with the

1953
01:20:53,730 --> 01:20:56,334
parents. Yeah. So there's a

1954
01:20:56,334 --> 01:20:58,336
number of issues that go on. So

1955
01:20:58,336 --> 01:21:00,271
during school let out, there's

1956
01:21:00,271 --> 01:21:02,730
the queuing of the busses. And

1957
01:21:02,730 --> 01:21:04,309
our road safety audit was out

1958
01:21:04,309 --> 01:21:06,711
there to witness that firsthand.

1959
01:21:06,711 --> 01:21:08,179
And it's messy. All those

1960
01:21:08,179 --> 01:21:10,315
busses they queue up, there's

1961
01:21:10,315 --> 01:21:11,849
not enough storage for them in

1962
01:21:11,849 --> 01:21:12,917
terms of the internal

1963
01:21:12,917 --> 01:21:14,385
circulation where they pick up

1964
01:21:14,385 --> 01:21:15,853
the kids on campus, and then

1965
01:21:15,853 --> 01:21:16,955
they're all making a left

1966
01:21:16,955 --> 01:21:18,656
because they they all go to

1967
01:21:18,656 --> 01:21:21,560
Santa Maria, 100% of the

1968
01:21:21,192 --> 01:21:23,828
student body kids are living in

1969
01:21:23,828 --> 01:21:26,197
Santa Maria. Strangely, most,

1970
01:21:26,197 --> 01:21:27,699
if not all, the faculty come

1971
01:21:27,699 --> 01:21:30,168
down from the North because

1972
01:21:30,168 --> 01:21:32,360
they live in Nipomo and

1973
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:34,572
elsewhere, and they use Santa

1974
01:21:34,572 --> 01:21:36,274
Benito School Road. And so it's

1975
01:21:36,274 --> 01:21:38,109
just it's kind of a confluence

1976
01:21:38,109 --> 01:21:39,878
there. So there's no formalized

1977
01:21:39,878 --> 01:21:42,460
parking really on campus. So

1978
01:21:42,460 --> 01:21:44,782
there's no stalls, white lines,

1979
01:21:44,782 --> 01:21:45,950
painting, striping. So we put a

1980
01:21:45,950 --> 01:21:47,785
lot of thought into that. But

1981
01:21:47,785 --> 01:21:49,200
you know that's just a concept,

1982
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:50,788
you know, do you want diagonal

1983
01:21:50,788 --> 01:21:51,789
parking. Do you want you know

1984
01:21:51,789 --> 01:21:52,891
there's all these different

1985
01:21:52,891 --> 01:21:54,625
variables. But so that's an

1986
01:21:54,625 --> 01:21:57,625
issue in terms of just

1987
01:21:57,628 --> 01:21:59,630
circulation of the student body.

1988
01:21:59,630 --> 01:22:01,650
You know, the parents drive

1989
01:22:01,650 --> 01:22:03,268
their kids to. And so there's

1990
01:22:03,268 --> 01:22:04,802
just a the the confluence of,

1991
01:22:04,802 --> 01:22:06,236
of the vehicles from the

1992
01:22:06,236 --> 01:22:07,205
employees to the students. And

1993
01:22:07,205 --> 01:22:09,400
then that school let out time

1994
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:10,909
with the queuing of the busses.

1995
01:22:10,909 --> 01:22:12,610
Okay. I was just curious about

1996
01:22:12,610 --> 01:22:14,212
what the problem was there.

1997
01:22:14,212 --> 01:22:16,281
Yeah. The stakeholder advisory

1998
01:22:16,281 --> 01:22:18,281
committee advocated really

1999
01:22:18,750 --> 01:22:21,252
putting in a a much more

2000
01:22:21,252 --> 01:22:23,530
prominent right turn

2001
01:22:23,530 --> 01:22:24,956
channelization from for

2002
01:22:24,956 --> 01:22:26,291
westbound traffic. And that's

2003
01:22:26,291 --> 01:22:28,560
mentioned in our report. It's

2004
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:29,894
not technically included in the

2005
01:22:29,894 --> 01:22:31,663
improvement, but I think that's

2006
01:22:31,663 --> 01:22:33,364
had a lot of merit. So we

2007
01:22:33,364 --> 01:22:35,330
included it by okay. Thank you

2008
01:22:35,330 --> 01:22:36,990
reference. Thank you, Director

2009
01:22:36,990 --> 01:22:37,268
Parodi. And I actually would

2010
01:22:37,268 --> 01:22:39,370
like to speak to the school

2011
01:22:39,370 --> 01:22:40,104
issue just for a moment,

2012
01:22:40,104 --> 01:22:41,272
something that I've always kind

2013
01:22:41,272 --> 01:22:43,107
of been tracking as well. The

2014
01:22:43,107 --> 01:22:44,642
issue is it's four miles from

2015
01:22:44,642 --> 01:22:46,100
the nearest house to the school,

2016
01:22:46,100 --> 01:22:47,450
just all through this entire

2017
01:22:47,450 --> 01:22:48,120
traffic areas, there's nobody

2018
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:49,147
riding their bikes, there's

2019
01:22:49,147 --> 01:22:52,182
nobody walking there. And it is

2020
01:22:52,182 --> 01:22:53,651
a traffic issue. I know you

2021
01:22:53,651 --> 01:22:55,530
mentioned the pesticide issue.

2022
01:22:55,530 --> 01:22:56,354
I think that that was

2023
01:22:56,354 --> 01:22:57,522
inappropriate. You know, that

2024
01:22:57,522 --> 01:22:59,324
site has been tested for the

2025
01:22:59,324 --> 01:23:00,525
last few years and they've had

2026
01:23:00,525 --> 01:23:03,260
a zero detect for pesticides.

2027
01:23:03,260 --> 01:23:04,229
So I know there's always that

2028
01:23:04,229 --> 01:23:05,363
concern out there. I think it's

2029
01:23:05,363 --> 01:23:06,998
the bigger concern is probably

2030
01:23:06,998 --> 01:23:07,665
the cooler with the ammonia

2031
01:23:07,665 --> 01:23:08,999
than there's actually

2032
01:23:08,999 --> 01:23:10,680
pesticides. There's a really a

2033
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:11,602
great amount of responsible use

2034
01:23:11,602 --> 01:23:13,404
of pesticides in that area. And,

2035
01:23:13,404 --> 01:23:14,405
you know, in general, but

2036
01:23:14,405 --> 01:23:16,241
specifically because it's near

2037
01:23:16,241 --> 01:23:17,642
a school. So they've had a

2038
01:23:17,642 --> 01:23:19,443
again, a zero detect. So

2039
01:23:19,443 --> 01:23:21,813
actually no pesticides in the

2040
01:23:21,813 --> 01:23:23,414
actual regions. Sensor that's

2041
01:23:23,414 --> 01:23:25,316
put out by Department of

2042
01:23:25,316 --> 01:23:27,118
Pesticide Regulations is on the

2043
01:23:27,118 --> 01:23:28,586
fence line of the playground.

2044
01:23:28,586 --> 01:23:29,988
And again the zero detect. So

2045
01:23:29,988 --> 01:23:31,823
just want to make sure that was

2046
01:23:31,823 --> 01:23:33,491
you talk about that that you

2047
01:23:33,491 --> 01:23:34,626
don't spread any false

2048
01:23:34,626 --> 01:23:36,427
assumptions or rumors about

2049
01:23:36,427 --> 01:23:37,295
that. So no I totally

2050
01:23:37,295 --> 01:23:38,930
appreciate that. And that's

2051
01:23:38,930 --> 01:23:40,364
great news to hear. I would

2052
01:23:40,364 --> 01:23:42,166
just say fine. Particulates

2053
01:23:42,166 --> 01:23:43,601
with no herbicides or

2054
01:23:43,601 --> 01:23:44,836
pesticides attached to them is

2055
01:23:44,836 --> 01:23:46,137
not a good thing. So it's still

2056
01:23:46,137 --> 01:23:47,705
a health based issue.

2057
01:23:47,705 --> 01:23:49,607
Absolutely. But I do think that

2058
01:23:49,607 --> 01:23:50,808
the big issue for that for a

2059
01:23:50,808 --> 01:23:51,942
long time has been the traffic

2060
01:23:51,942 --> 01:23:53,745
issue. You know, there's this

2061
01:23:53,745 --> 01:23:54,879
is the most early on when I

2062
01:23:54,879 --> 01:23:56,714
started working for the county,

2063
01:23:56,714 --> 01:23:59,384
I heard from chp officer. They

2064
01:23:59,384 --> 01:24:01,685
said it's the most unmanned

2065
01:24:01,685 --> 01:24:03,554
vehicle accidents in the state

2066
01:24:03,554 --> 01:24:04,556
are on this. And I go, what do

2067
01:24:04,556 --> 01:24:05,657
you mean unmanned? Because

2068
01:24:05,657 --> 01:24:06,791
there's accidents and they show

2069
01:24:06,791 --> 01:24:08,660
up and there's nobody there.

2070
01:24:08,660 --> 01:24:10,228
And so they have the cars that

2071
01:24:10,228 --> 01:24:11,296
are there. So it's definitely a

2072
01:24:11,296 --> 01:24:12,397
corridor with many, many

2073
01:24:12,397 --> 01:24:14,499
accidents. Obviously we've been

2074
01:24:14,499 --> 01:24:16,000
talking about significantly the

2075
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:19,000
traffic issues. My son actually

2076
01:24:19,236 --> 01:24:21,372
works at a farm at 166 in Black

2077
01:24:21,372 --> 01:24:22,840
Road. And so, you know, he

2078
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:24,642
spends he lives five miles away

2079
01:24:24,642 --> 01:24:26,811
and it's a 30 minute plus drive

2080
01:24:26,811 --> 01:24:28,346
for him to get there. So I see

2081
01:24:28,346 --> 01:24:30,800
this and it impacts so many of

2082
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:31,616
our residents, especially those

2083
01:24:31,616 --> 01:24:34,180
who have the least time to

2084
01:24:34,180 --> 01:24:35,420
share on on a commute. So a

2085
01:24:35,420 --> 01:24:37,488
couple a few things I just

2086
01:24:37,488 --> 01:24:38,923
wanted to. Also, did you guys

2087
01:24:38,923 --> 01:24:39,991
look at Black Road with the

2088
01:24:39,991 --> 01:24:41,159
flooding that happens there?

2089
01:24:41,159 --> 01:24:42,260
Did that? You know, you talked

2090
01:24:42,260 --> 01:24:44,660
about extreme weather events,

2091
01:24:45,196 --> 01:24:46,831
black road floods significantly,

2092
01:24:46,831 --> 01:24:48,433
multiple feet of water. Did you

2093
01:24:48,433 --> 01:24:50,301
guys kind of look at that as

2094
01:24:50,301 --> 01:24:52,370
part of the study? It was

2095
01:24:52,370 --> 01:24:54,873
brought to our attention in

2096
01:24:54,873 --> 01:24:56,808
terms of the vulnerability to

2097
01:24:56,808 --> 01:24:59,744
extreme weather events. I think

2098
01:24:59,744 --> 01:25:02,800
that's a chronic issue. But we

2099
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:04,682
do identify quite a swath of

2100
01:25:04,682 --> 01:25:08,282
area that is subject at risk,

2101
01:25:08,453 --> 01:25:09,754
vulnerable to flooding. But

2102
01:25:09,754 --> 01:25:11,889
yeah, that that did come into

2103
01:25:11,889 --> 01:25:15,426
play. We did not explicitly try

2104
01:25:15,426 --> 01:25:17,595
to address the, you know, the

2105
01:25:17,595 --> 01:25:19,396
the flooding issue that

2106
01:25:19,396 --> 01:25:21,796
currently happens at that

2107
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:23,334
location. You also went through

2108
01:25:23,334 --> 01:25:25,203
the truck routes, and I think

2109
01:25:25,203 --> 01:25:26,204
that got a lot of people's

2110
01:25:26,204 --> 01:25:28,106
attention. What's the next

2111
01:25:28,106 --> 01:25:29,240
steps on truck routes and that

2112
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:30,542
conversation? Because I think,

2113
01:25:30,542 --> 01:25:31,609
you know, you presented a lot

2114
01:25:31,609 --> 01:25:32,810
of different options. I don't

2115
01:25:32,810 --> 01:25:33,811
know who makes those decisions,

2116
01:25:33,811 --> 01:25:35,647
whether that's our board or

2117
01:25:35,647 --> 01:25:37,681
that's someone else. I think

2118
01:25:37,681 --> 01:25:38,750
also the city of Santa Maria,

2119
01:25:38,750 --> 01:25:40,284
with the potential of the

2120
01:25:40,284 --> 01:25:41,920
Amazon Center in stool that

2121
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:43,154
plays into it, you know, what

2122
01:25:43,154 --> 01:25:44,923
are all those things that we're

2123
01:25:44,923 --> 01:25:46,457
looking at. So who who makes

2124
01:25:46,457 --> 01:25:49,294
those next decisions on truck

2125
01:25:49,294 --> 01:25:52,564
routes. So. Well, I'll just say

2126
01:25:52,564 --> 01:25:53,998
it varies across the state.

2127
01:25:53,998 --> 01:25:55,733
Typically I think what's

2128
01:25:55,733 --> 01:25:57,435
typical they allow it to

2129
01:25:57,435 --> 01:26:00,435
organically happen. So it comes

2130
01:26:00,438 --> 01:26:01,906
from the, the the property

2131
01:26:01,906 --> 01:26:04,809
owners and the business owners

2132
01:26:04,809 --> 01:26:07,245
that they request through their

2133
01:26:07,245 --> 01:26:10,245
local agency or member regional

2134
01:26:10,547 --> 01:26:12,416
agency to ask Caltrans formally

2135
01:26:12,416 --> 01:26:14,118
designate and test it. So most

2136
01:26:14,118 --> 01:26:15,353
of the state does that. But

2137
01:26:15,353 --> 01:26:17,121
there are jurisdictions that

2138
01:26:17,121 --> 01:26:18,789
are more proactive. And I would

2139
01:26:18,789 --> 01:26:20,925
say this kind of a proactive

2140
01:26:20,925 --> 01:26:23,294
step that, hey, there's there's

2141
01:26:23,294 --> 01:26:25,763
there's no Sta routes east west,

2142
01:26:25,763 --> 01:26:26,864
that's a huge issue. And

2143
01:26:26,864 --> 01:26:28,131
everybody that we talked to

2144
01:26:28,131 --> 01:26:30,668
from the growers and shippers

2145
01:26:30,668 --> 01:26:32,837
and chp, it just has never

2146
01:26:32,837 --> 01:26:34,606
really formally been looked at.

2147
01:26:34,606 --> 01:26:38,206
And it's an issue because the

2148
01:26:38,309 --> 01:26:39,343
chp will not enforce the Sta

2149
01:26:39,343 --> 01:26:40,811
regulations because really the

2150
01:26:40,811 --> 01:26:42,881
truckers don't have any choice.

2151
01:26:42,881 --> 01:26:44,382
There's no signage, there's no

2152
01:26:44,382 --> 01:26:46,184
navigation. So they'll just go

2153
01:26:46,184 --> 01:26:47,285
where Siri tells them to go.

2154
01:26:47,285 --> 01:26:48,386
And sometimes they find

2155
01:26:48,386 --> 01:26:49,754
themselves on roadways that

2156
01:26:49,754 --> 01:26:50,755
were never designed to

2157
01:26:50,755 --> 01:26:52,457
accommodate those vehicles. And

2158
01:26:52,457 --> 01:26:54,158
you can see the damage at

2159
01:26:54,158 --> 01:26:55,660
intersections from the the

2160
01:26:55,660 --> 01:26:57,261
light poles and all that. They

2161
01:26:57,261 --> 01:26:58,830
have visible damage from the

2162
01:26:58,830 --> 01:27:00,631
trucks off tracking and not

2163
01:27:00,631 --> 01:27:02,901
being able to accommodate that

2164
01:27:02,901 --> 01:27:04,869
sharp of a turn. But I'll pass

2165
01:27:04,869 --> 01:27:05,970
it over to Margie. Sounds like

2166
01:27:05,970 --> 01:27:07,972
this is a perfect issue for sb

2167
01:27:07,972 --> 01:27:08,973
to take up at some point, maybe

2168
01:27:08,973 --> 01:27:09,874
within the North County

2169
01:27:09,874 --> 01:27:11,142
subregional, because we have

2170
01:27:11,142 --> 01:27:12,877
all the different parties that

2171
01:27:12,877 --> 01:27:14,746
are going to impact so so that

2172
01:27:14,746 --> 01:27:17,515
we can come up with something

2173
01:27:17,515 --> 01:27:19,683
to advocate to Caltrans to

2174
01:27:19,683 --> 01:27:21,850
formalize. So the steps in the

2175
01:27:21,850 --> 01:27:22,860
planning process is this is a

2176
01:27:22,860 --> 01:27:23,321
study and we incorporate it

2177
01:27:23,321 --> 01:27:23,955
into our regional

2178
01:27:23,955 --> 01:27:25,757
transportation plan. So it

2179
01:27:25,757 --> 01:27:26,824
could be an action item in our

2180
01:27:26,824 --> 01:27:28,824
next regional transportation

2181
01:27:28,893 --> 01:27:30,662
plan to identify a truck route

2182
01:27:30,662 --> 01:27:32,630
and working with Caltrans. So

2183
01:27:32,630 --> 01:27:33,798
all right. And just one thought

2184
01:27:33,798 --> 01:27:34,799
I had on the paved driveways.

2185
01:27:34,799 --> 01:27:36,500
You know, that seems like

2186
01:27:36,500 --> 01:27:37,835
that's a great public private

2187
01:27:37,835 --> 01:27:39,804
partnership opportunity. I

2188
01:27:39,804 --> 01:27:41,306
think if we gave encroachment

2189
01:27:41,306 --> 01:27:42,340
permits, many of those

2190
01:27:42,340 --> 01:27:43,841
landowners would actually

2191
01:27:43,841 --> 01:27:45,210
install those for us, which

2192
01:27:45,210 --> 01:27:46,711
would be a huge cost savings,

2193
01:27:46,711 --> 01:27:48,346
I'd imagine. So, you know,

2194
01:27:48,346 --> 01:27:49,614
could be one of those things

2195
01:27:49,614 --> 01:27:50,915
where the local jurisdictions

2196
01:27:50,915 --> 01:27:52,517
helped them with the permitting.

2197
01:27:52,517 --> 01:27:54,185
You know, that's our cost and

2198
01:27:54,185 --> 01:27:56,120
investment in those those farms

2199
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:57,188
would put in the paving. I mean,

2200
01:27:57,188 --> 01:27:57,855
they're they have construction

2201
01:27:57,855 --> 01:27:59,757
material. They're able to do

2202
01:27:59,757 --> 01:28:01,759
those types of things. I know

2203
01:28:01,759 --> 01:28:02,760
that a lot of this is going to

2204
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:03,928
be potentially on their

2205
01:28:03,928 --> 01:28:05,763
property as well. So I'm just

2206
01:28:05,763 --> 01:28:06,998
going to throw that out there

2207
01:28:06,998 --> 01:28:08,866
as a concept that I think would

2208
01:28:08,866 --> 01:28:10,768
be embraced. And then my last

2209
01:28:10,768 --> 01:28:11,903
final thought on this is that I

2210
01:28:11,903 --> 01:28:13,738
think that this is a great

2211
01:28:13,738 --> 01:28:15,730
start, but I think this needs

2212
01:28:15,730 --> 01:28:16,741
to be kind of a living document

2213
01:28:16,741 --> 01:28:17,876
for us, because there's other

2214
01:28:17,876 --> 01:28:19,100
things coming down the line. I

2215
01:28:19,100 --> 01:28:20,745
don't think Betteravia is a

2216
01:28:20,745 --> 01:28:21,880
settled idea of what is

2217
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:23,748
proposed here. I think this is

2218
01:28:23,748 --> 01:28:24,282
just a concept. So I think

2219
01:28:24,282 --> 01:28:25,850
there's greater discussion

2220
01:28:25,850 --> 01:28:27,850
there. The city of Santa Maria

2221
01:28:27,850 --> 01:28:28,753
is looking at McCoy interchange,

2222
01:28:28,753 --> 01:28:29,754
what happens there and how that

2223
01:28:29,754 --> 01:28:30,922
impacts everything. And they

2224
01:28:30,922 --> 01:28:32,900
also are looking at bringing

2225
01:28:32,900 --> 01:28:33,825
McCoy out to Mahoney. You know,

2226
01:28:33,825 --> 01:28:35,260
the county at some point is

2227
01:28:35,260 --> 01:28:36,761
looking at Uni Valley Parkway

2228
01:28:36,761 --> 01:28:37,295
out to highway one. And so

2229
01:28:37,295 --> 01:28:38,830
having additional corridor

2230
01:28:38,830 --> 01:28:39,997
routes in the future and how

2231
01:28:39,997 --> 01:28:41,766
those all kind of play into

2232
01:28:41,766 --> 01:28:42,867
future investments, I think are

2233
01:28:42,867 --> 01:28:44,200
really important. So I think

2234
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:44,969
that this is something we

2235
01:28:44,969 --> 01:28:46,771
should probably bring back

2236
01:28:46,771 --> 01:28:47,906
every couple of years and, and

2237
01:28:47,906 --> 01:28:48,907
maybe amend the study to the

2238
01:28:48,907 --> 01:28:49,974
current circumstances and the

2239
01:28:49,974 --> 01:28:51,776
current planning. You know, the

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01:28:51,776 --> 01:28:52,744
city of Santa Maria moves

2241
01:28:52,744 --> 01:28:54,120
forward, the Amazon Center.

2242
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:55,880
Then this is this changes a lot

2243
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:57,749
of things here. And we're going

2244
01:28:57,749 --> 01:28:59,751
to have to go refresh that as

2245
01:28:59,751 --> 01:29:00,952
well. So I just want to kind of

2246
01:29:00,952 --> 01:29:02,954
throw that out there for all of

2247
01:29:02,954 --> 01:29:04,756
us is to think about that. This

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01:29:04,756 --> 01:29:05,757
is a start. But we should

2249
01:29:05,757 --> 01:29:06,858
probably be, you know,

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01:29:06,858 --> 01:29:07,892
refreshing this on a on a

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01:29:07,892 --> 01:29:08,993
semi-regular basis for the

2252
01:29:08,993 --> 01:29:10,762
corridor chair. Nelson, when

2253
01:29:10,762 --> 01:29:11,963
you don't speak into the mic,

2254
01:29:11,963 --> 01:29:13,310
we can't hear you up here. I

2255
01:29:13,310 --> 01:29:14,832
apologize there, Director

2256
01:29:14,832 --> 01:29:15,967
Patino. I was trying to hide it

2257
01:29:15,967 --> 01:29:17,769
from you anyway, so it's all

2258
01:29:17,769 --> 01:29:18,970
good. All right, so, MADAM

2259
01:29:18,970 --> 01:29:20,104
Clerk, do we have any public

2260
01:29:20,104 --> 01:29:21,272
comment on this item? Chair,

2261
01:29:21,272 --> 01:29:22,740
I'm confirming written public

2262
01:29:22,740 --> 01:29:24,420
comment was received for this

2263
01:29:24,420 --> 01:29:24,943
item in advance. The comments

2264
01:29:24,943 --> 01:29:26,377
were uploaded online and

2265
01:29:26,377 --> 01:29:27,478
provided to the board, and

2266
01:29:27,478 --> 01:29:29,614
those comments were received

2267
01:29:29,614 --> 01:29:31,449
from Guthrie Leonard, Timothy.

2268
01:29:31,449 --> 01:29:33,218
Mahoney, Jeffrey. Jeffrey.

2269
01:29:33,218 --> 01:29:34,419
Wheeler. And if there are any

2270
01:29:34,419 --> 01:29:36,420
members of the public who wish

2271
01:29:36,420 --> 01:29:37,554
to speak on the zoom webinar,

2272
01:29:37,554 --> 01:29:39,157
please use the Raise Hand

2273
01:29:39,157 --> 01:29:40,425
feature and I will call upon

2274
01:29:40,425 --> 01:29:42,160
you. We do have one request to

2275
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:44,462
speak in Santa Barbara and

2276
01:29:44,462 --> 01:29:45,797
three up north in Santa Maria.

2277
01:29:45,797 --> 01:29:46,931
And so our first speaker in

2278
01:29:46,931 --> 01:29:49,467
Santa Barbara is Barry. Remus.

2279
01:29:49,467 --> 01:29:53,667
If you can please come up to

2280
01:29:55,907 --> 01:29:57,341
the podium. Good evening.

2281
01:29:57,341 --> 01:29:58,810
Excuse me. Good afternoon,

2282
01:29:58,810 --> 01:30:00,411
Chair Nelson and directors. My

2283
01:30:00,411 --> 01:30:03,548
name is Barry Remus and I'm

2284
01:30:03,548 --> 01:30:06,548
with Santa Barbara County. We

2285
01:30:07,850 --> 01:30:08,552
countywide empower, educate and

2286
01:30:08,552 --> 01:30:10,755
advocate for those who walk,

2287
01:30:10,755 --> 01:30:12,891
bike and use public transit. So

2288
01:30:12,891 --> 01:30:15,260
what a perfect opportunity to

2289
01:30:15,260 --> 01:30:16,427
address the route 66 multimodal

2290
01:30:16,427 --> 01:30:18,296
corridor. And we really do want

2291
01:30:18,296 --> 01:30:20,765
to highlight the fact that

2292
01:30:20,765 --> 01:30:23,165
multimodal has been emphasized

2293
01:30:23,268 --> 01:30:26,170
or highlighted in the study

2294
01:30:26,170 --> 01:30:27,505
numerous times. And while we do

2295
01:30:27,505 --> 01:30:29,774
realize that this is clearly

2296
01:30:29,774 --> 01:30:33,110
going to be a large balancing

2297
01:30:33,110 --> 01:30:34,445
act of numerous priorities, and

2298
01:30:34,445 --> 01:30:36,845
recognizing the immense benefit

2299
01:30:36,981 --> 01:30:38,810
that this agricultural corridor

2300
01:30:38,810 --> 01:30:40,752
provides for everybody, we also

2301
01:30:40,752 --> 01:30:41,986
want to emphasize as well, that

2302
01:30:41,986 --> 01:30:44,889
it's more than just a truck

2303
01:30:44,889 --> 01:30:47,158
route, and that we fully

2304
01:30:47,158 --> 01:30:48,158
support the opportunity here,

2305
01:30:48,158 --> 01:30:49,561
and it certainly is an

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01:30:49,561 --> 01:30:51,290
opportunity. And also, Chair

2307
01:30:51,290 --> 01:30:52,797
Nelson, as you mentioned, to be

2308
01:30:52,797 --> 01:30:54,865
able to treat this as a living

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01:30:54,865 --> 01:30:56,401
plan that obviously will need

2310
01:30:56,401 --> 01:30:57,769
to be reevaluated and

2311
01:30:57,769 --> 01:30:59,404
reassessed as the years go on

2312
01:30:59,404 --> 01:31:00,638
and some things are going to

2313
01:31:00,638 --> 01:31:02,400
take a lot longer than others.

2314
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:03,908
But while we certainly support

2315
01:31:03,908 --> 01:31:04,642
the class one multi-purpose

2316
01:31:04,642 --> 01:31:06,440
path that

2317
01:31:06,440 --> 01:31:07,879
would be fully

2318
01:31:07,879 --> 01:31:10,810
separated and protected for

2319
01:31:10,810 --> 01:31:11,482
active transportation users,

2320
01:31:11,482 --> 01:31:13,170
bike riders, pedestrians, and

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01:31:13,170 --> 01:31:14,552
also the ever growing bike

2322
01:31:14,552 --> 01:31:16,186
riding population, that is also

2323
01:31:16,186 --> 01:31:17,255
a lot of commuters. That would

2324
01:31:17,255 --> 01:31:19,230
probably be going back and

2325
01:31:19,230 --> 01:31:21,626
forth between farms as e-bikes

2326
01:31:21,626 --> 01:31:24,260
become more affordable. But

2327
01:31:24,270 --> 01:31:26,997
also and we're also on record,

2328
01:31:26,997 --> 01:31:29,567
supporters of the Santa Maria

2329
01:31:29,567 --> 01:31:30,268
levee Trail as and we

2330
01:31:30,268 --> 01:31:31,769
understand that there's the

2331
01:31:31,769 --> 01:31:32,970
balance between that, too. But

2332
01:31:32,970 --> 01:31:34,772
we feel that there are ways to

2333
01:31:34,772 --> 01:31:36,700
be able to work that

2334
01:31:36,700 --> 01:31:38,176
arrangement out, to be able to

2335
01:31:38,176 --> 01:31:40,211
provide protected space for the

2336
01:31:40,211 --> 01:31:42,413
agricultural owners, while also

2337
01:31:42,413 --> 01:31:44,716
providing a good alternative

2338
01:31:44,716 --> 01:31:46,684
route for active transportation

2339
01:31:46,684 --> 01:31:49,320
users from and to Guadalupe and

2340
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:50,388
Santa Maria, but also the

2341
01:31:50,388 --> 01:31:51,522
agricultural workers and the

2342
01:31:51,522 --> 01:31:53,691
commuters, the farm workers

2343
01:31:53,691 --> 01:31:56,227
that depend upon transit, and

2344
01:31:56,227 --> 01:31:59,630
so that idea of increasing the

2345
01:31:59,630 --> 01:32:00,798
caravans opportunities and also

2346
01:32:00,798 --> 01:32:03,198
increasing the headways for

2347
01:32:04,102 --> 01:32:05,502
smart transit all, all, all are

2348
01:32:05,502 --> 01:32:07,705
wonderful ways that through

2349
01:32:07,705 --> 01:32:09,674
funding availability can be

2350
01:32:09,674 --> 01:32:12,100
more near-term solutions to be

2351
01:32:12,100 --> 01:32:14,770
able to address the county's

2352
01:32:14,770 --> 01:32:16,477
climate action plans, reducing

2353
01:32:16,648 --> 01:32:18,648
emissions, reducing vehicle

2354
01:32:19,183 --> 01:32:20,718
miles traveled, and also to be

2355
01:32:20,718 --> 01:32:22,220
able to provide for so many of

2356
01:32:22,220 --> 01:32:24,620
the agricultural workers coming

2357
01:32:24,889 --> 01:32:27,250
out of Guadalupe. To Director

2358
01:32:27,250 --> 01:32:28,260
Julian's points, to be able to

2359
01:32:28,260 --> 01:32:29,227
provide that opportunity for

2360
01:32:29,227 --> 01:32:31,290
them to get there safe routes

2361
01:32:31,290 --> 01:32:32,960
to school is paramount for us,

2362
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:34,496
and we appreciate Director

2363
01:32:34,732 --> 01:32:36,100
Perotti's questions and MR.

2364
01:32:36,100 --> 01:32:37,869
Nelson's questions about the

2365
01:32:37,869 --> 01:32:39,337
school, any amount of dust

2366
01:32:39,337 --> 01:32:40,705
mitigation and the particulate

2367
01:32:40,705 --> 01:32:42,607
matter for the safety and the

2368
01:32:42,607 --> 01:32:44,475
future health of our children

2369
01:32:44,475 --> 01:32:47,178
is, is, is is an excellent idea

2370
01:32:47,178 --> 01:32:49,800
that the paved driveway aprons

2371
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:51,182
as well. And just lastly also

2372
01:32:51,182 --> 01:32:51,916
going to point out that for the

2373
01:32:51,916 --> 01:32:53,284
Guadalupe side, we had to

2374
01:32:53,284 --> 01:32:54,719
highlight that Caltrans is

2375
01:32:54,719 --> 01:32:57,119
holding a community meeting

2376
01:32:57,322 --> 01:33:00,322
next Wednesday, the 21st, to

2377
01:33:00,592 --> 01:33:02,592
highlight Guadalupe oriented

2378
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:04,229
action projects as well. So we

2379
01:33:04,229 --> 01:33:06,640
want to bid you all a Happy New

2380
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:08,866
Year. And thank you very much.

2381
01:33:08,866 --> 01:33:09,867
Thank you. Our next speaker is

2382
01:33:09,867 --> 01:33:12,267
Claire Weinman, followed by

2383
01:33:25,490 --> 01:33:27,719
Brett Fulgoni. In Santa Maria.

2384
01:33:27,719 --> 01:33:30,719
Claire, you're up. We can't

2385
01:33:31,489 --> 01:33:34,692
hear you yet. Now we can now,

2386
01:33:34,692 --> 01:33:35,760
please. Good morning. My name

2387
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:37,270
is Claire Wyman. I'm the

2388
01:33:37,270 --> 01:33:37,929
PRESIDENT Of the Grower Shipper

2389
01:33:37,929 --> 01:33:39,597
Association of Santa Barbara

2390
01:33:39,597 --> 01:33:41,990
and San Luis Obispo counties.

2391
01:33:41,990 --> 01:33:42,433
We appreciate the opportunity

2392
01:33:42,433 --> 01:33:43,468
to serve on the advisory

2393
01:33:43,468 --> 01:33:44,669
committee, and it's always a

2394
01:33:44,669 --> 01:33:47,438
pleasure to work with the sb,

2395
01:33:47,438 --> 01:33:48,806
cag team. This is an essential

2396
01:33:48,806 --> 01:33:50,708
corridor for safe and efficient

2397
01:33:50,708 --> 01:33:52,477
and effective movement of

2398
01:33:52,477 --> 01:33:54,877
people, equipment and fresh,

2399
01:33:55,130 --> 01:33:56,347
perishable produce. Agriculture

2400
01:33:56,347 --> 01:33:57,782
drives employment and

2401
01:33:57,782 --> 01:34:00,351
businesses that many rely on.

2402
01:34:00,351 --> 01:34:01,352
In North County. We've provided

2403
01:34:01,352 --> 01:34:02,786
detailed comments throughout

2404
01:34:02,786 --> 01:34:04,355
the process and would like to

2405
01:34:04,355 --> 01:34:07,355
highlight a few key points

2406
01:34:08,590 --> 01:34:10,459
before approval today. First,

2407
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:12,864
our number one ask is widening

2408
01:34:12,864 --> 01:34:14,866
166 to 4 lanes in a modest,

2409
01:34:14,866 --> 01:34:16,834
compact design. We're sensitive

2410
01:34:16,834 --> 01:34:18,703
to the cost and complexity of

2411
01:34:18,703 --> 01:34:20,370
pursuing a very wide design and

2412
01:34:20,370 --> 01:34:21,839
would look to a modest and

2413
01:34:21,839 --> 01:34:23,675
achievable design which would

2414
01:34:23,675 --> 01:34:25,910
better suit the location and

2415
01:34:25,910 --> 01:34:28,460
use needs through a design

2416
01:34:28,460 --> 01:34:29,447
variance. As many of you are

2417
01:34:29,447 --> 01:34:31,215
already aware, we strongly

2418
01:34:31,215 --> 01:34:32,750
oppose the Santa Maria River

2419
01:34:32,750 --> 01:34:34,452
Levee Trail due to the

2420
01:34:34,452 --> 01:34:36,287
significant food safety and

2421
01:34:36,287 --> 01:34:38,687
operational concerns with that

2422
01:34:38,790 --> 01:34:40,258
specific location. As mentioned,

2423
01:34:40,258 --> 01:34:41,693
the majority of the advisory

2424
01:34:41,693 --> 01:34:44,261
committee also did not support

2425
01:34:44,261 --> 01:34:46,129
the trail at that location and

2426
01:34:46,129 --> 01:34:49,729
asked it to be removed from

2427
01:34:50,168 --> 01:34:51,536
this package. Many of you are

2428
01:34:51,536 --> 01:34:53,237
also aware of our concerns

2429
01:34:53,237 --> 01:34:54,639
about roundabouts and areas

2430
01:34:54,639 --> 01:34:56,740
frequented by agricultural

2431
01:34:56,740 --> 01:34:58,474
equipment, and specifically the

2432
01:34:58,977 --> 01:35:00,478
mix of vehicle types, and would

2433
01:35:00,478 --> 01:35:02,878
oppose roundabouts at Mahoney

2434
01:35:02,914 --> 01:35:05,314
Road and Betteravia and 101

2435
01:35:05,450 --> 01:35:07,850
favor Signalization for these

2436
01:35:08,319 --> 01:35:10,154
locations. Finally, we strongly

2437
01:35:10,154 --> 01:35:11,890
support a variety of east west

2438
01:35:11,890 --> 01:35:13,758
travel corridors for trucks.

2439
01:35:13,758 --> 01:35:15,493
This would provide resiliency

2440
01:35:15,493 --> 01:35:18,960
and reduce undue pressure on

2441
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:19,631
any one pathway. We strongly

2442
01:35:19,631 --> 01:35:22,310
support maintaining Main Street

2443
01:35:22,399 --> 01:35:24,268
to 101 and further support

2444
01:35:24,268 --> 01:35:26,668
additional options for highway

2445
01:35:26,738 --> 01:35:28,840
one and semis, as well as Stoll

2446
01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:31,142
Road, Union Valley Parkway and

2447
01:35:31,142 --> 01:35:32,476
Clark. This would most closely

2448
01:35:32,476 --> 01:35:33,878
align with the modified

2449
01:35:33,878 --> 01:35:35,313
alternative five and six, and

2450
01:35:35,313 --> 01:35:38,149
would like to remain very

2451
01:35:38,149 --> 01:35:39,684
engaged in this process. We

2452
01:35:39,684 --> 01:35:41,418
appreciate your attention and

2453
01:35:41,418 --> 01:35:42,887
leadership to these important

2454
01:35:42,887 --> 01:35:44,220
details, and look forward to

2455
01:35:44,220 --> 01:35:45,490
continuing to serve our

2456
01:35:45,490 --> 01:35:47,959
community as these move forward

2457
01:35:47,959 --> 01:35:50,695
as projects. Thank you. Thank

2458
01:35:50,695 --> 01:35:52,629
you, MISS Wyman. And our next

2459
01:35:52,629 --> 01:35:55,290
speaker is Brett Fulgoni,

2460
01:35:56,968 --> 01:35:58,703
followed by Maribel Aguilera.

2461
01:35:58,703 --> 01:36:00,238
Good morning, Chair Nelson,

2462
01:36:00,238 --> 01:36:01,639
directors Brett Fulgoni, public

2463
01:36:01,639 --> 01:36:03,741
works director for the City of

2464
01:36:03,741 --> 01:36:06,100
Santa Maria. And first of all,

2465
01:36:06,100 --> 01:36:08,146
thank you all very much for the

2466
01:36:08,146 --> 01:36:09,581
work that went into this, this

2467
01:36:09,581 --> 01:36:11,382
study. A couple of things I

2468
01:36:11,382 --> 01:36:13,651
just wanted to comment on. I

2469
01:36:13,651 --> 01:36:15,620
recall back in NOVEMBER, there

2470
01:36:15,620 --> 01:36:18,556
was some discussion about and

2471
01:36:18,556 --> 01:36:19,958
you did listed in the the

2472
01:36:19,958 --> 01:36:21,826
comments that that you took

2473
01:36:21,826 --> 01:36:24,826
that information in. I didn't

2474
01:36:25,630 --> 01:36:28,663
see it analyzed in the options

2475
01:36:28,733 --> 01:36:31,133
analysis. So black and

2476
01:36:31,169 --> 01:36:33,370
betteravia stolen black. And

2477
01:36:33,370 --> 01:36:34,973
then also very importantly the

2478
01:36:34,973 --> 01:36:38,443
two the two left hand turn

2479
01:36:38,443 --> 01:36:40,178
lanes eastbound eastbound 166

2480
01:36:40,178 --> 01:36:41,979
onto northbound Blosser in

2481
01:36:41,979 --> 01:36:44,816
earlier Jim I heard talking

2482
01:36:44,816 --> 01:36:46,651
about the the am peak which I

2483
01:36:46,651 --> 01:36:49,487
think you nailed but I wasn't

2484
01:36:49,487 --> 01:36:51,189
sure about that pm peak. And we

2485
01:36:51,189 --> 01:36:53,291
see anecdotally the peak we

2486
01:36:53,291 --> 01:36:55,226
think is probably around 3 to 4

2487
01:36:55,226 --> 01:36:57,495
P.M. At that location where you

2488
01:36:57,495 --> 01:36:59,197
get that left hand turn

2489
01:36:59,197 --> 01:37:01,597
movement onto northbound. So

2490
01:37:02,233 --> 01:37:03,534
really stacking up west. So we

2491
01:37:03,534 --> 01:37:05,737
just want to make sure that

2492
01:37:05,737 --> 01:37:06,804
that, that that gets addressed.

2493
01:37:06,804 --> 01:37:08,339
Anecdotally we looked at it

2494
01:37:08,339 --> 01:37:10,775
through engineering on our team.

2495
01:37:10,775 --> 01:37:11,509
If we had four 11 foot lanes

2496
01:37:11,509 --> 01:37:13,278
through there, which would

2497
01:37:13,278 --> 01:37:14,679
require Caltrans design

2498
01:37:14,679 --> 01:37:16,346
exception, we think we could

2499
01:37:16,346 --> 01:37:18,283
get two left hand turn lanes

2500
01:37:18,283 --> 01:37:20,830
onto that northbound Gloucester

2501
01:37:20,830 --> 01:37:21,252
corridor. And so, you know,

2502
01:37:21,252 --> 01:37:23,354
perhaps a short term solution

2503
01:37:23,354 --> 01:37:24,989
could be a design exception

2504
01:37:24,989 --> 01:37:27,625
through 11 foot lanes. Then as

2505
01:37:27,625 --> 01:37:29,694
we move toward the medium, the

2506
01:37:29,694 --> 01:37:31,396
medium term, we could widen

2507
01:37:31,396 --> 01:37:32,430
that back out if needed because

2508
01:37:32,430 --> 01:37:34,132
of the truck traffic. Although

2509
01:37:34,132 --> 01:37:35,733
we do have many 11 and ten foot

2510
01:37:35,733 --> 01:37:38,536
lanes throughout the city of

2511
01:37:38,536 --> 01:37:41,371
Santa Maria on truck routes or

2512
01:37:41,371 --> 01:37:43,541
unofficial truck routes. Let's

2513
01:37:43,541 --> 01:37:45,475
see if I have anything else. So

2514
01:37:45,475 --> 01:37:46,477
yeah, I just want to make sure

2515
01:37:46,477 --> 01:37:47,645
that those intersections were

2516
01:37:47,645 --> 01:37:48,880
fully studied that I mentioned

2517
01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:51,880
and that we've captured the

2518
01:37:52,830 --> 01:37:54,586
correct pm peak on that

2519
01:37:54,586 --> 01:37:56,986
eastbound 166 to block. Thank

2520
01:37:57,188 --> 01:38:00,191
you. Thank you Brett. And our

2521
01:38:00,191 --> 01:38:02,591
next speaker is Maribel

2522
01:38:07,932 --> 01:38:09,434
Aguilera. Chair and chair and

2523
01:38:09,434 --> 01:38:10,602
members of the board I'm

2524
01:38:10,602 --> 01:38:12,770
Maribel Aguilera, Santa Maria

2525
01:38:12,770 --> 01:38:15,500
city council. I strongly

2526
01:38:15,500 --> 01:38:16,307
support the final State Route

2527
01:38:16,307 --> 01:38:18,109
166 Comprehensive Corridor

2528
01:38:18,109 --> 01:38:19,577
Study and urge approval today,

2529
01:38:19,577 --> 01:38:21,779
with a further consideration to

2530
01:38:21,779 --> 01:38:23,715
include the widening of the 166

2531
01:38:23,715 --> 01:38:25,984
to 4 lanes. The people of Santa

2532
01:38:25,984 --> 01:38:27,252
Maria Guadalupe deserve a safe,

2533
01:38:27,252 --> 01:38:29,252
reliable corridor connecting

2534
01:38:29,587 --> 01:38:31,856
our communities. Every day,

2535
01:38:31,856 --> 01:38:33,591
Guadalupe residents travel the

2536
01:38:33,591 --> 01:38:35,930
166 to reach medical

2537
01:38:35,930 --> 01:38:37,610
appointments, go shopping, get

2538
01:38:37,610 --> 01:38:38,630
to work and access essential

2539
01:38:38,630 --> 01:38:40,131
services in Santa Maria and

2540
01:38:40,131 --> 01:38:41,599
Santa Maria. Residents depend

2541
01:38:41,599 --> 01:38:43,601
on this same corner to reach

2542
01:38:43,601 --> 01:38:45,136
the coast. Some work in

2543
01:38:45,136 --> 01:38:46,304
Guadalupe, visit family and

2544
01:38:46,304 --> 01:38:48,304
support businesses throughout

2545
01:38:48,706 --> 01:38:50,874
the region. For too long, our

2546
01:38:50,874 --> 01:38:52,977
families have navigated roadway

2547
01:38:52,977 --> 01:38:55,146
plagued by safety concerns,

2548
01:38:55,146 --> 01:38:57,146
heavy agricultural traffic,

2549
01:38:57,715 --> 01:38:59,350
limited visibility, congestion

2550
01:38:59,350 --> 01:39:01,350
and inadequate infrastructure

2551
01:39:01,619 --> 01:39:03,540
at key intersections. We've had

2552
01:39:03,540 --> 01:39:04,822
far too many serious accidents

2553
01:39:04,822 --> 01:39:06,758
on this road over the years.

2554
01:39:06,758 --> 01:39:08,126
The study represents years of

2555
01:39:08,126 --> 01:39:10,126
thoughtful collaboration

2556
01:39:10,328 --> 01:39:12,130
between sb, cag, Caltrans,

2557
01:39:12,130 --> 01:39:13,865
Santa Barbara County and both

2558
01:39:13,865 --> 01:39:15,333
cities of Santa Maria Guadalupe,

2559
01:39:15,333 --> 01:39:16,801
and I am encouraged by the

2560
01:39:16,801 --> 01:39:18,801
strong community engagement.

2561
01:39:18,869 --> 01:39:20,305
Nearly 500 survey responses,

2562
01:39:20,305 --> 01:39:22,807
with outreach in both English

2563
01:39:22,807 --> 01:39:24,642
and Spanish at events such as

2564
01:39:24,642 --> 01:39:26,110
Mexican Independence Day

2565
01:39:26,110 --> 01:39:27,477
celebrations to our Parade of

2566
01:39:27,477 --> 01:39:30,381
Lights, and with the benefit

2567
01:39:30,381 --> 01:39:33,251
cost ratio of 2.66, this is

2568
01:39:33,251 --> 01:39:35,853
clearly a sound investment. The

2569
01:39:35,853 --> 01:39:37,589
identified improvements signal

2570
01:39:37,589 --> 01:39:39,790
signalization at Siemens Road,

2571
01:39:39,790 --> 01:39:41,192
enhanced lighting, intersection

2572
01:39:41,192 --> 01:39:42,327
safety upgrades and

2573
01:39:42,327 --> 01:39:44,950
transcendent Katzman's will

2574
01:39:44,950 --> 01:39:46,197
provide real safety and

2575
01:39:46,197 --> 01:39:48,197
operational benefits. However,

2576
01:39:48,398 --> 01:39:51,350
I do want to address the timing

2577
01:39:51,350 --> 01:39:53,471
and I do appreciate the request

2578
01:39:53,471 --> 01:39:54,939
for four lane widening because

2579
01:39:54,939 --> 01:39:56,808
that's really shouldn't be for

2580
01:39:56,808 --> 01:39:59,177
long term planning because the

2581
01:39:59,177 --> 01:40:01,145
need is now. During peak

2582
01:40:01,145 --> 01:40:02,347
traffic times, it takes 45

2583
01:40:02,347 --> 01:40:04,249
minutes to get from Santa Maria

2584
01:40:04,249 --> 01:40:06,840
to Guadalupe. So I'd really

2585
01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:07,552
encourage us to look at that

2586
01:40:07,552 --> 01:40:10,552
and widening the road and

2587
01:40:10,889 --> 01:40:13,258
looking at peak times 5 to 6

2588
01:40:13,258 --> 01:40:14,859
A.M. And 3 to 4 P.M. As someone

2589
01:40:14,859 --> 01:40:16,160
who has spent over a decade

2590
01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:17,527
serving our region's families

2591
01:40:17,527 --> 01:40:19,464
on the Planning Commission and

2592
01:40:19,464 --> 01:40:21,199
City council, I know firsthand

2593
01:40:21,199 --> 01:40:22,634
how critical this corridor is

2594
01:40:22,634 --> 01:40:25,340
to our community's well-being

2595
01:40:25,203 --> 01:40:26,971
and economic vitality. I ask

2596
01:40:26,971 --> 01:40:29,473
that you include the four lane

2597
01:40:29,473 --> 01:40:31,420
widening now, not as a long

2598
01:40:31,420 --> 01:40:32,744
term goal, because the families

2599
01:40:32,744 --> 01:40:34,579
of Guadalupe and Santa Maria

2600
01:40:34,579 --> 01:40:37,579
need that today. Thank you.

2601
01:40:37,782 --> 01:40:38,883
Thank you, COUNCILWOMAN. There

2602
01:40:38,883 --> 01:40:40,652
are no further requests to

2603
01:40:40,652 --> 01:40:42,487
speak. All right. Any other

2604
01:40:42,487 --> 01:40:44,887
questions from directors in

2605
01:40:48,626 --> 01:40:50,562
Santa Maria? Or comments? Did

2606
01:40:50,562 --> 01:40:52,931
you have a comment? No, I have

2607
01:40:52,931 --> 01:40:55,900
a comment on the comprehensive

2608
01:40:55,900 --> 01:40:58,236
corridor study that is part

2609
01:40:58,236 --> 01:40:59,770
part of the the River trail. I

2610
01:40:59,770 --> 01:41:02,240
should say the River trail is

2611
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:04,640
part of that. That

2612
01:41:08,379 --> 01:41:10,379
comprehensive corridor study.

2613
01:41:11,315 --> 01:41:12,317
Director Patino, the the trail

2614
01:41:12,317 --> 01:41:13,918
along the levee is a county

2615
01:41:13,918 --> 01:41:16,918
project that was included in

2616
01:41:18,220 --> 01:41:20,758
the the study. Okay. And that

2617
01:41:20,758 --> 01:41:22,493
was already agreed to and

2618
01:41:22,493 --> 01:41:24,262
passed. But four years ago or

2619
01:41:24,262 --> 01:41:25,363
five years ago, I believe it's

2620
01:41:25,363 --> 01:41:26,698
my understanding that the

2621
01:41:26,698 --> 01:41:29,400
county agreed to fund certain

2622
01:41:29,400 --> 01:41:30,468
segment or certain phases. I

2623
01:41:30,468 --> 01:41:32,868
believe the environmental phase,

2624
01:41:34,672 --> 01:41:36,841
which is currently ongoing.

2625
01:41:36,841 --> 01:41:38,676
Thank you. All right. Any other

2626
01:41:38,676 --> 01:41:41,760
questions or comments? Santa

2627
01:41:41,112 --> 01:41:44,112
Maria? Yes. Yes there is.

2628
01:41:44,382 --> 01:41:46,951
Please. I've got a comment here.

2629
01:41:46,951 --> 01:41:48,353
What I made before and it's in

2630
01:41:48,353 --> 01:41:50,187
regards to the trail. I know

2631
01:41:50,187 --> 01:41:51,990
the county is well aware that

2632
01:41:51,990 --> 01:41:53,240
they have a superior court

2633
01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:55,260
ruling about introduction of

2634
01:41:55,260 --> 01:41:56,261
people and pests into

2635
01:41:56,261 --> 01:41:57,629
environmentally sensitive

2636
01:41:57,629 --> 01:41:58,663
habitats, and how would you be

2637
01:41:58,663 --> 01:42:01,630
getting around the Superior

2638
01:42:01,299 --> 01:42:02,367
Court ruling by obviously

2639
01:42:02,367 --> 01:42:04,168
introducing people and pets

2640
01:42:04,168 --> 01:42:06,168
into environmentally sensitive

2641
01:42:07,380 --> 01:42:08,339
habitats, agriculture, as it's

2642
01:42:08,339 --> 01:42:10,275
recognized in the Superior

2643
01:42:10,275 --> 01:42:11,643
Court ruling. So it seems to me

2644
01:42:11,643 --> 01:42:13,744
that you're doing kind of the

2645
01:42:13,744 --> 01:42:14,946
opposite of mandates that

2646
01:42:14,946 --> 01:42:17,682
you've done in other areas of

2647
01:42:17,682 --> 01:42:19,183
the county. But buyer beware

2648
01:42:19,183 --> 01:42:20,184
with a trail, because I can

2649
01:42:20,184 --> 01:42:21,352
guarantee what's going to

2650
01:42:21,352 --> 01:42:22,587
happen. You might as well just

2651
01:42:22,587 --> 01:42:24,187
call it the strawberry picking

2652
01:42:24,187 --> 01:42:25,890
trail or something like that.

2653
01:42:25,890 --> 01:42:27,492
But I've advised before that if

2654
01:42:27,492 --> 01:42:28,626
you want to see what happens

2655
01:42:28,626 --> 01:42:30,495
when you put trails in these

2656
01:42:30,495 --> 01:42:31,563
type of areas, come to Lompoc.

2657
01:42:31,563 --> 01:42:34,499
There's plenty of video that

2658
01:42:34,499 --> 01:42:36,301
show out what happens there.

2659
01:42:36,301 --> 01:42:38,670
But just for the record, I it

2660
01:42:38,670 --> 01:42:40,538
just very curious how the

2661
01:42:40,538 --> 01:42:43,141
county in one area can say no

2662
01:42:43,141 --> 01:42:44,275
to recreation and trails in one

2663
01:42:44,275 --> 01:42:46,177
area, but another area they can

2664
01:42:46,177 --> 01:42:48,460
just turn a blind eye to it,

2665
01:42:48,460 --> 01:42:49,113
even when the people owning the

2666
01:42:49,113 --> 01:42:52,113
property around are saying no

2667
01:42:53,451 --> 01:42:55,720
and it moves forward. All right.

2668
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:57,555
Thank you. Director, can I. Can

2669
01:42:57,555 --> 01:42:58,690
I answer that? Sure. Yeah,

2670
01:42:58,690 --> 01:43:00,558
absolutely. Director. So as far

2671
01:43:00,558 --> 01:43:02,227
as calling it a blind eye,

2672
01:43:02,227 --> 01:43:03,928
we've studied this thing upside

2673
01:43:03,928 --> 01:43:06,328
down, backwards and frontwards.

2674
01:43:07,131 --> 01:43:10,731
It has had plenty of public

2675
01:43:10,735 --> 01:43:13,605
comment. The project that is

2676
01:43:13,605 --> 01:43:15,440
that there is really no even

2677
01:43:15,440 --> 01:43:16,941
we're in the very beginning

2678
01:43:16,941 --> 01:43:17,975
stages of this. We all

2679
01:43:17,975 --> 01:43:20,210
understood the reason why it's

2680
01:43:20,210 --> 01:43:22,313
not done right now is because

2681
01:43:22,313 --> 01:43:23,715
of the farmers input, and we

2682
01:43:23,715 --> 01:43:24,883
realize that we can't do it

2683
01:43:24,883 --> 01:43:27,883
without a huge investment that

2684
01:43:29,387 --> 01:43:31,787
would include lighting, fencing,

2685
01:43:33,570 --> 01:43:34,225
paving, all kinds of

2686
01:43:34,225 --> 01:43:36,594
engineering to keep people out

2687
01:43:36,594 --> 01:43:39,197
of those fields. So staffing,

2688
01:43:39,197 --> 01:43:40,764
staffing, if if we had turned a

2689
01:43:40,764 --> 01:43:42,660
blind eye, we would have said,

2690
01:43:42,660 --> 01:43:43,902
okay, here's a Santa Maria

2691
01:43:43,902 --> 01:43:45,236
River levee trail and it's open

2692
01:43:45,236 --> 01:43:47,205
and all hell would have broke

2693
01:43:47,205 --> 01:43:49,600
loose. So because of the input

2694
01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:51,750
of the farmers and our ability

2695
01:43:51,750 --> 01:43:53,211
to then dial it way down and

2696
01:43:53,211 --> 01:43:56,214
say, okay, this obviously is an

2697
01:43:56,214 --> 01:43:57,415
area of concern. I got to be

2698
01:43:57,415 --> 01:43:59,250
honest, I think it has not been

2699
01:43:59,250 --> 01:44:00,451
in blind eye. We've gone in

2700
01:44:00,451 --> 01:44:02,353
with eyes wide open and tried

2701
01:44:02,353 --> 01:44:05,890
to listen to what the comments

2702
01:44:05,890 --> 01:44:07,926
were and change what even the

2703
01:44:07,926 --> 01:44:09,193
proposal is. That's why it's

2704
01:44:09,193 --> 01:44:10,528
not going to happen tomorrow.

2705
01:44:10,528 --> 01:44:12,997
It's not going to happen next

2706
01:44:12,997 --> 01:44:14,365
Friday. It is a long term

2707
01:44:14,365 --> 01:44:15,532
project that is going to take a

2708
01:44:15,532 --> 01:44:18,403
lot of funding to do it the

2709
01:44:18,403 --> 01:44:19,804
right way. So the reason why

2710
01:44:19,804 --> 01:44:22,707
it's going to take a long time

2711
01:44:22,707 --> 01:44:23,808
is because we have decided to

2712
01:44:23,808 --> 01:44:24,875
really implement everything

2713
01:44:24,875 --> 01:44:27,779
that we've heard from the

2714
01:44:27,779 --> 01:44:29,614
public. So, you know, I think

2715
01:44:29,614 --> 01:44:32,483
it's easy to throw rocks at

2716
01:44:32,483 --> 01:44:34,252
this and act like nobody's

2717
01:44:34,252 --> 01:44:36,530
paying attention to it when the

2718
01:44:36,530 --> 01:44:37,155
exact opposite is true.

2719
01:44:37,155 --> 01:44:38,590
Everybody's paying attention to

2720
01:44:38,590 --> 01:44:40,725
it. We're on top of it, and

2721
01:44:40,725 --> 01:44:41,759
we're really analyzing it. So I

2722
01:44:41,759 --> 01:44:43,294
just want the public to

2723
01:44:43,294 --> 01:44:45,630
understand that this is not

2724
01:44:45,630 --> 01:44:46,497
just a Wild West, free for all

2725
01:44:46,497 --> 01:44:47,932
trail running through ag

2726
01:44:47,932 --> 01:44:49,300
property. All right. I want to

2727
01:44:49,300 --> 01:44:51,100
kind of bring this back though.

2728
01:44:51,100 --> 01:44:53,237
So this is just referenced in

2729
01:44:53,237 --> 01:44:54,906
the study. And today all we are

2730
01:44:54,906 --> 01:44:56,140
doing is receiving and filing

2731
01:44:56,140 --> 01:44:57,575
the study. Right. We're not

2732
01:44:57,575 --> 01:44:59,377
actually adopting these

2733
01:44:59,377 --> 01:45:01,212
projects any of these designs.

2734
01:45:01,212 --> 01:45:02,313
We're just hearing a

2735
01:45:02,313 --> 01:45:05,313
presentation on what we paid

2736
01:45:05,949 --> 01:45:08,520
for. We are asking for the

2737
01:45:08,520 --> 01:45:09,354
board approval as a study. And

2738
01:45:09,354 --> 01:45:10,989
then it gets incorporated into

2739
01:45:10,989 --> 01:45:12,390
the plan as priorities as we

2740
01:45:12,390 --> 01:45:14,158
move forward. So the board will

2741
01:45:14,158 --> 01:45:15,292
have discretion on what

2742
01:45:15,292 --> 01:45:16,361
priorities get incorporated

2743
01:45:16,361 --> 01:45:17,428
into the regional

2744
01:45:17,428 --> 01:45:19,597
transportation plan as we move

2745
01:45:19,597 --> 01:45:21,466
forward. But this is just basic

2746
01:45:21,466 --> 01:45:22,834
information to inform your

2747
01:45:22,834 --> 01:45:24,402
future decision making, right?

2748
01:45:24,402 --> 01:45:26,271
So no actual decisions will be

2749
01:45:26,271 --> 01:45:27,472
made on projects or designs at

2750
01:45:27,472 --> 01:45:29,908
this point. Correct? Correct. I

2751
01:45:29,908 --> 01:45:31,442
just want to make sure I think

2752
01:45:31,442 --> 01:45:32,677
it's a good, good discussion

2753
01:45:32,677 --> 01:45:33,645
debate, and it's good to get

2754
01:45:33,645 --> 01:45:34,646
information out there. I

2755
01:45:34,646 --> 01:45:35,780
appreciate both perspectives

2756
01:45:35,780 --> 01:45:37,714
and having that opportunity to

2757
01:45:37,714 --> 01:45:38,783
say that, but I do want to get

2758
01:45:38,783 --> 01:45:39,851
us moving along towards

2759
01:45:39,851 --> 01:45:41,653
finishing up this item so we

2760
01:45:41,653 --> 01:45:42,787
can get this meeting finished

2761
01:45:42,787 --> 01:45:44,389
in a timely manner. So with

2762
01:45:44,389 --> 01:45:46,789
that supervisor sorry, Director

2763
01:45:49,794 --> 01:45:52,663
Hartman. Go ahead. Okay. All

2764
01:45:52,663 --> 01:45:54,980
right. So not seeing too many

2765
01:45:54,980 --> 01:45:56,601
other lights up here. Any other

2766
01:45:56,601 --> 01:45:58,836
lights again that could get us

2767
01:45:58,836 --> 01:46:00,504
back to this item is to receive

2768
01:46:00,504 --> 01:46:02,340
this study. The action on the

2769
01:46:02,340 --> 01:46:04,175
agenda is to approve the final

2770
01:46:04,175 --> 01:46:05,643
study, the comprehensive

2771
01:46:05,643 --> 01:46:07,412
corridor study, and to direct

2772
01:46:07,412 --> 01:46:07,912
staff to file a notice of

2773
01:46:07,912 --> 01:46:10,312
exemption with the Santa

2774
01:46:10,981 --> 01:46:12,500
Barbara clerk for a sequa. So

2775
01:46:12,500 --> 01:46:13,184
the study is not an

2776
01:46:13,184 --> 01:46:15,190
environmental document, though.

2777
01:46:15,190 --> 01:46:16,421
It's it's exempt from

2778
01:46:16,421 --> 01:46:17,589
environment because it's just a

2779
01:46:17,589 --> 01:46:18,890
study. You're not making

2780
01:46:18,890 --> 01:46:20,124
official decisions or

2781
01:46:20,124 --> 01:46:22,124
priorities. It's information

2782
01:46:22,260 --> 01:46:23,595
for your future decision making

2783
01:46:23,595 --> 01:46:26,595
okay. We're not making those

2784
01:46:26,798 --> 01:46:28,660
decisions today. All right. So

2785
01:46:28,660 --> 01:46:29,434
I just need a motion to that

2786
01:46:29,434 --> 01:46:31,834
motion okay. Motion from

2787
01:46:32,437 --> 01:46:33,338
Hartman and a second from Silva.

2788
01:46:33,338 --> 01:46:35,338
Further discussion. Supervisor

2789
01:46:36,641 --> 01:46:38,420
or director Patino. Yes. I

2790
01:46:38,420 --> 01:46:39,844
would really like to go on

2791
01:46:39,844 --> 01:46:41,880
record saying I do oppose the

2792
01:46:41,880 --> 01:46:43,800
River trail being in on that

2793
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:44,883
study. And I know we've gone

2794
01:46:44,883 --> 01:46:46,170
through it over and over. I

2795
01:46:46,170 --> 01:46:48,386
don't think that people realize

2796
01:46:48,386 --> 01:46:50,954
the impact and the challenges

2797
01:46:50,954 --> 01:46:52,790
to the growers in our community,

2798
01:46:52,790 --> 01:46:54,626
and they are extremely

2799
01:46:54,626 --> 01:46:57,128
important. Ag is the the engine

2800
01:46:57,128 --> 01:46:59,264
that fuels our community. And i

2801
01:46:59,264 --> 01:47:01,199
just I didn't like it when it

2802
01:47:01,199 --> 01:47:03,167
was passed and I don't like it.

2803
01:47:03,167 --> 01:47:04,369
I don't like it now. I just I

2804
01:47:04,369 --> 01:47:06,471
don't think people realize that

2805
01:47:06,471 --> 01:47:09,340
even with birds going into

2806
01:47:09,340 --> 01:47:11,175
fields and contaminating

2807
01:47:11,175 --> 01:47:13,343
whatever is going in the fields

2808
01:47:13,343 --> 01:47:14,879
makes those fields unusable.

2809
01:47:14,879 --> 01:47:16,581
And, and I think when you've

2810
01:47:16,581 --> 01:47:17,749
got people going down the levy

2811
01:47:17,749 --> 01:47:19,517
on their bicycles and they have

2812
01:47:19,517 --> 01:47:20,685
their dogs with them, and I

2813
01:47:20,685 --> 01:47:22,487
realize we have in here is

2814
01:47:22,487 --> 01:47:24,722
going to do fencing, but

2815
01:47:24,722 --> 01:47:26,758
somehow we go down the road and

2816
01:47:26,758 --> 01:47:28,793
things get turned around. And

2817
01:47:28,793 --> 01:47:30,695
so I would love to see if that

2818
01:47:30,695 --> 01:47:32,664
could be removed from this

2819
01:47:32,664 --> 01:47:35,664
study, the approval of the

2820
01:47:36,401 --> 01:47:37,802
study. Thank you. Other

2821
01:47:37,802 --> 01:47:41,402
comments on the motion that we

2822
01:47:41,806 --> 01:47:43,174
have right now. Okay. I see no

2823
01:47:43,174 --> 01:47:44,576
additional comments on the

2824
01:47:44,576 --> 01:47:47,512
motion. MADAM Clerk, can you

2825
01:47:47,512 --> 01:47:49,470
please have a roll call? Vote.

2826
01:47:49,470 --> 01:47:51,470
Director. Rouse. Director.

2827
01:47:55,860 --> 01:47:57,486
Perotti. Director. Patino. No.

2828
01:47:58,656 --> 01:48:01,560
Director. Mosby. No. Director.

2829
01:48:02,994 --> 01:48:05,394
Lee. Hi. Director. Lavagnino.

2830
01:48:06,164 --> 01:48:08,564
Director. Julian. Hi, director.

2831
01:48:09,434 --> 01:48:11,834
Hartman, I. Director. Clark.

2832
01:48:12,270 --> 01:48:14,270
Director. Capps. Director.

2833
01:48:14,839 --> 01:48:17,375
Brown, I vice chair. Silva, I

2834
01:48:17,375 --> 01:48:20,375
and chair. Nelson, I. Motion

2835
01:48:21,412 --> 01:48:22,947
passes. 11 two. Do you mind

2836
01:48:22,947 --> 01:48:24,249
calling out just the number for

2837
01:48:24,249 --> 01:48:26,840
the public? Was that what it

2838
01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:28,920
was? Yes, it was 11 to 2. Thank

2839
01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:31,756
you. All right. We're moving on

2840
01:48:31,756 --> 01:48:33,224
to our final discussion item,

2841
01:48:33,224 --> 01:48:34,893
item five c. MADAM Clerk, would

2842
01:48:34,893 --> 01:48:36,461
you please read that into the

2843
01:48:36,461 --> 01:48:38,229
record? Expanded peak hour

2844
01:48:38,229 --> 01:48:40,300
intercity rail service update.

2845
01:48:40,300 --> 01:48:40,764
Recommended actions, received

2846
01:48:40,764 --> 01:48:42,330
presentation and provide

2847
01:48:42,330 --> 01:48:43,635
direction to staff regarding

2848
01:48:43,635 --> 01:48:46,137
the proposal by the Los Angeles,

2849
01:48:46,137 --> 01:48:48,390
San Diego, San Luis Obispo Rail

2850
01:48:48,390 --> 01:48:49,841
Corridor Agency to operate

2851
01:48:49,841 --> 01:48:50,942
expanded intercity passenger

2852
01:48:50,942 --> 01:48:53,110
rail service between Ventura

2853
01:48:53,110 --> 01:48:56,110
and Santa Barbara counties. MR.

2854
01:49:00,552 --> 01:49:02,952
Bonfiglio, please. Good morning.

2855
01:49:03,388 --> 01:49:05,356
All right. Good morning, MR.

2856
01:49:05,356 --> 01:49:06,658
Chair. Board of Directors. For

2857
01:49:06,658 --> 01:49:07,691
the record, my name is Aaron

2858
01:49:07,691 --> 01:49:09,691
Bonfiglio, director of

2859
01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:11,795
multimodal programs for sb cag.

2860
01:49:11,795 --> 01:49:13,865
And with me today is Jason

2861
01:49:13,865 --> 01:49:14,999
Jewell from the Rail Corridor

2862
01:49:14,999 --> 01:49:17,399
Agency, the managing director,

2863
01:49:19,671 --> 01:49:21,206
to help with the presentation.

2864
01:49:21,206 --> 01:49:22,907
So today's presentation and

2865
01:49:22,907 --> 01:49:24,420
we'll try to move through it

2866
01:49:24,420 --> 01:49:26,277
quickly. I don't want to stand

2867
01:49:26,277 --> 01:49:29,130
between you all and lunch. It's

2868
01:49:29,130 --> 01:49:30,548
a hard place to be. We'll

2869
01:49:30,548 --> 01:49:31,849
provide you all with a quick

2870
01:49:31,849 --> 01:49:34,249
background of this project

2871
01:49:34,452 --> 01:49:36,554
where we are with regard to Los

2872
01:49:36,554 --> 01:49:38,723
Angeles and board direction. As

2873
01:49:38,723 --> 01:49:39,891
far as their updated proposal

2874
01:49:39,891 --> 01:49:41,993
is concerned, because there was

2875
01:49:41,993 --> 01:49:43,828
some action at the recent board

2876
01:49:43,828 --> 01:49:44,495
that has triggered some new

2877
01:49:44,495 --> 01:49:46,895
information. And then next

2878
01:49:54,539 --> 01:49:56,374
steps with regard to timeline.

2879
01:49:56,374 --> 01:49:58,610
Okay. We'll try again. All

2880
01:49:58,610 --> 01:50:02,210
right. New clicker. So as the

2881
01:50:02,513 --> 01:50:05,416
board will recall in 2018 sb

2882
01:50:05,416 --> 01:50:06,851
cag began a service with the

2883
01:50:06,851 --> 01:50:09,200
Pacific Surfliner, the rail

2884
01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:10,855
corridor agency, to operate

2885
01:50:10,855 --> 01:50:12,223
additional train service from

2886
01:50:12,223 --> 01:50:13,658
the south into Santa Barbara

2887
01:50:13,658 --> 01:50:15,627
County to address the peak hour

2888
01:50:15,627 --> 01:50:17,695
morning commute period. This is

2889
01:50:17,695 --> 01:50:19,731
a long standing commitment that

2890
01:50:19,731 --> 01:50:21,933
sb cag has made to the voters.

2891
01:50:21,933 --> 01:50:24,702
The Lane and a train was part

2892
01:50:24,702 --> 01:50:27,702
of the 2008 measure, a renewal

2893
01:50:27,739 --> 01:50:29,173
or push for the current local

2894
01:50:29,173 --> 01:50:31,573
self-help sales tax measure

2895
01:50:32,430 --> 01:50:33,478
that's here today, and we've

2896
01:50:33,478 --> 01:50:35,280
achieved much of the lane and

2897
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:37,749
had fits and starts with the

2898
01:50:37,749 --> 01:50:39,684
train. So as it relates to our

2899
01:50:39,684 --> 01:50:40,952
ongoing efforts, I'm here to

2900
01:50:40,952 --> 01:50:42,820
tell you that we have some good

2901
01:50:42,820 --> 01:50:43,955
news. Over the past two years,

2902
01:50:43,955 --> 01:50:45,690
we've been working very closely,

2903
01:50:45,690 --> 01:50:46,958
both with Lausanne and our

2904
01:50:46,958 --> 01:50:48,993
partners in Ventura County, but

2905
01:50:48,993 --> 01:50:49,994
also with the regional Rail

2906
01:50:49,994 --> 01:50:51,195
Authority in Southern

2907
01:50:51,195 --> 01:50:52,897
California, Metrolink, to come

2908
01:50:52,897 --> 01:50:54,465
up with a solution to help

2909
01:50:54,465 --> 01:50:56,465
expedite additional train

2910
01:50:57,534 --> 01:50:59,370
service. Over the years. We had

2911
01:50:59,370 --> 01:51:02,370
a discussion with this group

2912
01:51:02,974 --> 01:51:05,510
that effectively was to provide

2913
01:51:05,510 --> 01:51:06,911
on loan a slot from the Rail

2914
01:51:06,911 --> 01:51:09,112
Corridor Agency that they have

2915
01:51:09,112 --> 01:51:10,915
track access to. With the Union

2916
01:51:10,915 --> 01:51:12,317
Pacific right of way. It's very

2917
01:51:12,317 --> 01:51:15,119
important. U.P. Is the owner of

2918
01:51:15,119 --> 01:51:17,210
the tracks from for much of our

2919
01:51:17,210 --> 01:51:19,224
area as far north as the Bay

2920
01:51:19,224 --> 01:51:21,259
area, and in order to operate

2921
01:51:21,259 --> 01:51:23,659
trains, Union Pacific must

2922
01:51:23,928 --> 01:51:26,300
provide that access and we must

2923
01:51:26,300 --> 01:51:27,532
reimburse them. Lausanne has

2924
01:51:27,532 --> 01:51:28,566
access as well as Metrolink

2925
01:51:28,566 --> 01:51:30,335
throughout the Southern

2926
01:51:30,335 --> 01:51:31,603
California area, but

2927
01:51:31,603 --> 01:51:33,204
effectively Lausanne was unable

2928
01:51:33,204 --> 01:51:34,372
to provide the additional train

2929
01:51:34,372 --> 01:51:37,507
service when we went back to

2930
01:51:37,507 --> 01:51:39,577
them in 2022, in early 2023,

2931
01:51:39,577 --> 01:51:40,645
and creatively, they suggested

2932
01:51:40,645 --> 01:51:41,880
that, you know who does have

2933
01:51:41,880 --> 01:51:42,981
train equipment that could

2934
01:51:42,981 --> 01:51:44,749
operate this service. Well,

2935
01:51:44,749 --> 01:51:46,551
maybe they don't have access is

2936
01:51:46,551 --> 01:51:47,752
Metrolink. And so we began on

2937
01:51:47,752 --> 01:51:49,487
an effort to work with both

2938
01:51:49,487 --> 01:51:50,855
Metrolink and Lausanne in our

2939
01:51:50,855 --> 01:51:52,657
in our partners in Ventura

2940
01:51:52,657 --> 01:51:54,192
County to establish a set of

2941
01:51:54,192 --> 01:51:56,560
agreements that would allow for

2942
01:51:56,560 --> 01:51:58,960
Metrolink to temporarily use

2943
01:51:58,960 --> 01:51:59,897
Lausanne's track access for a

2944
01:51:59,897 --> 01:52:01,933
period of time until such time

2945
01:52:01,933 --> 01:52:03,434
that Lausanne could operate

2946
01:52:03,434 --> 01:52:04,836
additional Pacific Surfliner

2947
01:52:04,836 --> 01:52:06,400
services funded by the state,

2948
01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:07,380
and through the additional

2949
01:52:07,380 --> 01:52:09,607
equipment that they would need

2950
01:52:09,607 --> 01:52:11,376
in order to operate. We got

2951
01:52:11,376 --> 01:52:12,777
very far along and earlier this

2952
01:52:12,777 --> 01:52:15,146
summer approached Union Pacific

2953
01:52:15,146 --> 01:52:16,681
with approximately eight months

2954
01:52:16,681 --> 01:52:19,681
to go before our anticipated

2955
01:52:19,984 --> 01:52:21,553
start date. Union Pacific was

2956
01:52:21,553 --> 01:52:23,655
initially receptive to the idea

2957
01:52:23,655 --> 01:52:25,356
and began to review some of the

2958
01:52:25,356 --> 01:52:26,456
internal or the initial

2959
01:52:26,456 --> 01:52:28,456
documents, preliminary

2960
01:52:28,660 --> 01:52:30,261
schedules and so forth. But but

2961
01:52:30,261 --> 01:52:31,396
the bottom line was, is that

2962
01:52:31,396 --> 01:52:32,530
Union Pacific has a process

2963
01:52:32,530 --> 01:52:33,998
that it must go through, and

2964
01:52:33,998 --> 01:52:36,398
that Lausanne's agreement with

2965
01:52:36,568 --> 01:52:37,702
U.P. Specifically identified

2966
01:52:37,702 --> 01:52:39,470
Amtrak as the operator of

2967
01:52:39,470 --> 01:52:41,906
record on any of the Up

2968
01:52:41,906 --> 01:52:43,408
corridor north of Moorpark

2969
01:52:43,408 --> 01:52:45,808
station. In addition to

2970
01:52:45,944 --> 01:52:47,744
Metrolink and Ventura County,

2971
01:52:47,744 --> 01:52:49,147
in order to utilize Lausanne's

2972
01:52:49,147 --> 01:52:51,810
agreement, an additional

2973
01:52:51,810 --> 01:52:52,784
agreement with U.P. Would be

2974
01:52:52,784 --> 01:52:54,219
required. And while U.P. Was

2975
01:52:54,219 --> 01:52:56,619
receptive and eager for

2976
01:52:58,555 --> 01:53:00,325
business, they had to let us

2977
01:53:00,325 --> 01:53:01,593
know in no uncertain terms that

2978
01:53:01,593 --> 01:53:03,361
they had other priorities, and

2979
01:53:03,361 --> 01:53:05,290
in particular, their merger

2980
01:53:05,290 --> 01:53:06,464
with Norfolk Southern was

2981
01:53:06,464 --> 01:53:07,665
underway, and there was quite a

2982
01:53:07,665 --> 01:53:09,667
bit of scrutiny that they had

2983
01:53:09,667 --> 01:53:11,869
to address and would be able to

2984
01:53:11,869 --> 01:53:13,671
review our proposal and our

2985
01:53:13,671 --> 01:53:16,710
agreement options in the

2986
01:53:16,139 --> 01:53:17,942
beginning of 2026. As I

2987
01:53:17,942 --> 01:53:19,444
mentioned, this is an effort

2988
01:53:19,444 --> 01:53:20,945
that to put this train into

2989
01:53:20,945 --> 01:53:22,981
service with additional train

2990
01:53:22,981 --> 01:53:24,415
service since 2008, if not

2991
01:53:24,415 --> 01:53:26,351
prior to that. I think the

2992
01:53:26,351 --> 01:53:27,752
first study I read, looking at

2993
01:53:27,752 --> 01:53:30,752
train service in the corridor,

2994
01:53:30,955 --> 01:53:32,390
was done by Scag in 1998, if

2995
01:53:32,390 --> 01:53:33,892
not a little bit earlier than

2996
01:53:33,892 --> 01:53:35,192
that. The final report before

2997
01:53:35,192 --> 01:53:37,362
both Santa Barbara and Ventura

2998
01:53:37,362 --> 01:53:39,998
counties around that time, and

2999
01:53:39,998 --> 01:53:43,598
at that time, and most recently

3000
01:53:43,935 --> 01:53:45,536
in 2000, seven studies were

3001
01:53:45,536 --> 01:53:47,105
done that showed that Lausanne

3002
01:53:47,105 --> 01:53:48,940
was ultimately the best

3003
01:53:48,940 --> 01:53:50,441
available operator to operate

3004
01:53:50,441 --> 01:53:52,176
additional peak hour service.

3005
01:53:52,176 --> 01:53:53,645
Because a simple retiming, or

3006
01:53:53,645 --> 01:53:54,746
what we presume would be a

3007
01:53:54,746 --> 01:53:56,681
simple retiming, would be the

3008
01:53:56,681 --> 01:53:57,782
best way to go, as there is

3009
01:53:57,782 --> 01:53:59,617
already a state supported

3010
01:53:59,617 --> 01:54:01,152
service. So we did that in 2018

3011
01:54:01,152 --> 01:54:03,210
and unfortunately, during the

3012
01:54:03,210 --> 01:54:04,622
pandemic, due to declining

3013
01:54:04,622 --> 01:54:05,890
ridership and some changes with

3014
01:54:05,890 --> 01:54:06,891
the availability of train

3015
01:54:06,891 --> 01:54:08,425
equipment, we were unable to

3016
01:54:08,425 --> 01:54:10,825
reestablish that service. Hence

3017
01:54:11,930 --> 01:54:13,664
the Metrolink expansion option.

3018
01:54:13,664 --> 01:54:15,266
As I mentioned, U.P. Responded

3019
01:54:15,266 --> 01:54:16,701
to Lausanne this summer and a

3020
01:54:16,701 --> 01:54:17,835
little bit after our last

3021
01:54:17,835 --> 01:54:20,235
presentation, which was in

3022
01:54:20,605 --> 01:54:21,739
AUGUST of 2025, to the board,

3023
01:54:21,739 --> 01:54:24,909
that they would be able to

3024
01:54:24,909 --> 01:54:27,909
begin on that agreement in 2026.

3025
01:54:28,580 --> 01:54:30,580
Unfortunately, Union Pacific

3026
01:54:30,847 --> 01:54:32,500
had indicated to both Lausanne

3027
01:54:32,500 --> 01:54:33,218
and Metrolink that there'd be

3028
01:54:33,218 --> 01:54:34,619
some additional requirements or

3029
01:54:34,619 --> 01:54:36,154
potentially new requirements on

3030
01:54:36,154 --> 01:54:37,588
Lausanne Agreement with them,

3031
01:54:37,588 --> 01:54:38,856
which opens up a new can of

3032
01:54:38,856 --> 01:54:40,758
worms where Lausanne previously

3033
01:54:40,758 --> 01:54:43,661
already has access to that

3034
01:54:43,661 --> 01:54:46,610
service. In NOVEMBER of 2025,

3035
01:54:46,464 --> 01:54:49,330
Lausanne's board took action to

3036
01:54:49,330 --> 01:54:50,935
prioritize their Amtrak Pacific

3037
01:54:50,935 --> 01:54:52,270
Surfliner service as the

3038
01:54:52,270 --> 01:54:53,671
temporary period of time, which

3039
01:54:53,671 --> 01:54:55,540
we envisioned Metrolink to

3040
01:54:55,540 --> 01:54:58,540
operate was quickly coming on

3041
01:54:59,770 --> 01:55:01,713
to the horizon. So effectively,

3042
01:55:01,713 --> 01:55:02,747
Lausanne had seen some

3043
01:55:02,747 --> 01:55:04,549
expansion or, excuse me,

3044
01:55:04,549 --> 01:55:06,384
increase in their train

3045
01:55:06,384 --> 01:55:07,451
capacity, their train equipment

3046
01:55:07,451 --> 01:55:09,187
capacity. They had ability to

3047
01:55:09,187 --> 01:55:10,855
operate additional services.

3048
01:55:10,855 --> 01:55:12,790
We're looking towards expansion

3049
01:55:12,790 --> 01:55:14,259
in the near term. And

3050
01:55:14,259 --> 01:55:15,692
Metrolink's proposal, which was

3051
01:55:15,692 --> 01:55:17,128
still yet to be determined and

3052
01:55:17,128 --> 01:55:19,528
finalized with Union Pacific,

3053
01:55:19,597 --> 01:55:21,997
calls for two conflicting

3054
01:55:22,320 --> 01:55:23,901
efforts. And where we are today

3055
01:55:23,901 --> 01:55:25,737
is to bring you that update on

3056
01:55:25,737 --> 01:55:27,605
how Lausanne's board saw fit to

3057
01:55:27,605 --> 01:55:30,108
work with sb cag in Ventura

3058
01:55:30,108 --> 01:55:32,243
County to still achieve that

3059
01:55:32,243 --> 01:55:33,344
expansion, but to do so with an

3060
01:55:33,344 --> 01:55:35,179
alternative proposal. And so

3061
01:55:35,179 --> 01:55:36,281
here with me today, I mentioned

3062
01:55:36,281 --> 01:55:37,649
Jason Doyle. He's going to

3063
01:55:37,649 --> 01:55:39,117
bring you some additional

3064
01:55:39,117 --> 01:55:41,117
information regarding the

3065
01:55:41,586 --> 01:55:42,754
latest Lausanne board activity,

3066
01:55:42,754 --> 01:55:45,690
as well as briefly describe

3067
01:55:45,690 --> 01:55:49,290
some of the proposal. It's down

3068
01:55:53,131 --> 01:55:56,131
to click forward. Great. Gets

3069
01:55:57,167 --> 01:55:59,300
set up real quick. Great. Thank

3070
01:55:59,300 --> 01:56:00,438
you Aaron and good morning

3071
01:56:00,438 --> 01:56:01,973
Chair Nelson and members of the

3072
01:56:01,973 --> 01:56:03,208
board. As Aaron mentioned my

3073
01:56:03,208 --> 01:56:04,108
name is Jason Jewell. I'm the

3074
01:56:04,108 --> 01:56:05,710
managing director of the

3075
01:56:05,710 --> 01:56:07,450
Lausanne Rail Corridor Agency.

3076
01:56:07,450 --> 01:56:08,713
And I wanted to mention that I

3077
01:56:08,713 --> 01:56:10,748
am a ucsb graduate and started

3078
01:56:10,748 --> 01:56:12,584
my career in government service

3079
01:56:12,584 --> 01:56:13,785
many moons ago with the County

3080
01:56:13,785 --> 01:56:15,620
of Santa Barbara, right here in

3081
01:56:15,620 --> 01:56:17,222
this building. And I don't want

3082
01:56:17,222 --> 01:56:18,990
to age myself. But that was

3083
01:56:18,990 --> 01:56:20,124
back when Congressman Salud

3084
01:56:20,124 --> 01:56:21,926
Carbajal worked for First

3085
01:56:21,926 --> 01:56:23,628
District Supervisor Naomi

3086
01:56:23,628 --> 01:56:24,795
Schwartz. And the reason why I

3087
01:56:24,795 --> 01:56:26,898
mentioned this is because I

3088
01:56:26,898 --> 01:56:29,100
used to take the Amtrak Pacific

3089
01:56:29,100 --> 01:56:30,400
Surfliner train to Santa

3090
01:56:30,400 --> 01:56:32,300
Barbara, back to my home in

3091
01:56:32,300 --> 01:56:34,839
Ventura County. And I also used

3092
01:56:34,839 --> 01:56:36,908
to drive the 101 many times to

3093
01:56:36,908 --> 01:56:38,443
get to and from home. So I

3094
01:56:38,443 --> 01:56:40,245
recognize the importance of

3095
01:56:40,245 --> 01:56:41,779
having multiple transportation

3096
01:56:41,779 --> 01:56:43,815
options for the region. And I'm

3097
01:56:43,815 --> 01:56:44,849
here today representing the

3098
01:56:44,849 --> 01:56:46,684
Lausanne Rail Corridor Agency,

3099
01:56:46,684 --> 01:56:48,152
of course. And we also

3100
01:56:48,152 --> 01:56:49,153
recognize the importance of

3101
01:56:49,153 --> 01:56:51,220
alternative transportation

3102
01:56:51,220 --> 01:56:53,220
options and specifically

3103
01:56:53,190 --> 01:56:54,626
intercity rail options as

3104
01:56:54,626 --> 01:56:56,527
transportation focal point of

3105
01:56:56,527 --> 01:56:58,396
ours. And I wanted to just take

3106
01:56:58,396 --> 01:56:59,664
a few minutes to give you a

3107
01:56:59,664 --> 01:57:01,310
little bit of background on the

3108
01:57:01,310 --> 01:57:03,201
Lausanne Rail Corridor Agency.

3109
01:57:03,201 --> 01:57:05,403
We are a joint powers authority

3110
01:57:05,403 --> 01:57:07,238
with nine member agencies

3111
01:57:07,238 --> 01:57:08,640
comprised of regional

3112
01:57:08,640 --> 01:57:09,741
transportation and planning

3113
01:57:09,741 --> 01:57:11,508
agencies, as well as rail

3114
01:57:11,508 --> 01:57:13,344
owners and operators spanning

3115
01:57:13,344 --> 01:57:15,446
six counties from San Diego all

3116
01:57:15,446 --> 01:57:18,316
the way up to San Luis Obispo.

3117
01:57:18,316 --> 01:57:19,450
And sb 1225 is really the

3118
01:57:19,450 --> 01:57:21,218
legislation that paved the way

3119
01:57:21,218 --> 01:57:22,719
for the Lausanne Agency to

3120
01:57:22,719 --> 01:57:23,755
manage the Amtrak Pacific

3121
01:57:23,755 --> 01:57:25,189
Surfliner intercity rail

3122
01:57:25,189 --> 01:57:27,725
service, which we have been

3123
01:57:27,725 --> 01:57:29,725
doing successfully since 2015.

3124
01:57:29,861 --> 01:57:31,662
Now we have an 11 member board

3125
01:57:31,662 --> 01:57:33,898
and which I'd like to recognize

3126
01:57:33,898 --> 01:57:35,967
and thank director Perotti for

3127
01:57:35,967 --> 01:57:38,169
her representation and support

3128
01:57:38,169 --> 01:57:40,672
on our board, as well as

3129
01:57:40,672 --> 01:57:42,473
Alternate Director Lee, and

3130
01:57:42,473 --> 01:57:43,708
touch upon the intercity rail

3131
01:57:43,708 --> 01:57:45,710
corridor and the service itself.

3132
01:57:45,710 --> 01:57:47,245
Real quickly. The Amtrak

3133
01:57:47,245 --> 01:57:49,347
Pacific Surfliner service spans

3134
01:57:49,347 --> 01:57:51,816
the entire length of the

3135
01:57:51,816 --> 01:57:54,216
corridor, which is 351 miles

3136
01:57:54,385 --> 01:57:56,187
long. We currently stop at 29

3137
01:57:56,187 --> 01:57:57,555
stations, and it is the

3138
01:57:57,555 --> 01:57:59,230
nation's second busiest

3139
01:57:59,230 --> 01:58:00,959
intercity rail corridor in

3140
01:58:00,959 --> 01:58:03,600
terms of ridership outside of

3141
01:58:03,600 --> 01:58:05,196
the Northeast Corridor. The

3142
01:58:05,196 --> 01:58:07,298
corridor itself is very unique.

3143
01:58:07,298 --> 01:58:09,500
It has seven right of way track

3144
01:58:09,500 --> 01:58:11,900
owners, two freight operators,

3145
01:58:12,337 --> 01:58:14,172
a Up and bsf, as well as two

3146
01:58:14,172 --> 01:58:16,307
commuter regional rail services.

3147
01:58:16,307 --> 01:58:17,742
In addition to that, the us

3148
01:58:17,742 --> 01:58:19,210
Department of Defense has

3149
01:58:19,210 --> 01:58:20,678
identified it as part of the

3150
01:58:20,678 --> 01:58:22,447
Strategic Rail Corridor network

3151
01:58:22,447 --> 01:58:24,582
for its access to the Marine

3152
01:58:24,582 --> 01:58:26,117
Corps Base Camp Pendleton down

3153
01:58:26,117 --> 01:58:28,686
in San Diego, as well as the

3154
01:58:28,686 --> 01:58:30,540
Port of San Diego. So I wanted

3155
01:58:30,540 --> 01:58:32,857
to dive a little deeper into

3156
01:58:32,857 --> 01:58:34,726
the effort that Aaron had been

3157
01:58:34,726 --> 01:58:36,561
talking about, that we have

3158
01:58:36,561 --> 01:58:38,630
before you today, as we have

3159
01:58:38,630 --> 01:58:40,131
been working to expand

3160
01:58:40,131 --> 01:58:41,899
intercity rail service. And I

3161
01:58:41,899 --> 01:58:43,468
wanted to start off by thanking

3162
01:58:43,468 --> 01:58:46,170
both the sb, cag team as well

3163
01:58:46,170 --> 01:58:47,272
as the ctc teams for their

3164
01:58:47,272 --> 01:58:49,140
coordination and support

3165
01:58:49,140 --> 01:58:52,140
through this effort. But most

3166
01:58:52,343 --> 01:58:53,510
of all, their patients. As as

3167
01:58:53,510 --> 01:58:55,547
mentioned, this has been a long

3168
01:58:55,547 --> 01:58:58,483
time coming. This started off

3169
01:58:58,483 --> 01:59:00,617
as a request several years ago

3170
01:59:00,617 --> 01:59:02,820
from sb, cag, and vtc to the

3171
01:59:02,820 --> 01:59:03,988
Lausanne Agency to support

3172
01:59:03,988 --> 01:59:06,357
restoring peak period service

3173
01:59:06,357 --> 01:59:07,759
to the regions, and at that

3174
01:59:07,759 --> 01:59:09,227
time, we did not have the

3175
01:59:09,227 --> 01:59:11,290
equipment, resources available

3176
01:59:11,290 --> 01:59:13,231
or the funding available to run

3177
01:59:13,231 --> 01:59:14,632
the service. However, it has

3178
01:59:14,632 --> 01:59:15,767
always been the intent and

3179
01:59:15,767 --> 01:59:17,835
included in the plans of the

3180
01:59:17,835 --> 01:59:19,304
Lausanne Agency to implement

3181
01:59:19,304 --> 01:59:21,505
expanded service to Goleta as

3182
01:59:21,505 --> 01:59:22,907
well as San Luis Obispo, which

3183
01:59:22,907 --> 01:59:25,476
is included in our annual

3184
01:59:25,476 --> 01:59:26,911
business plans for fiscal year

3185
01:59:26,911 --> 01:59:29,311
2627 and consistent with State

3186
01:59:29,379 --> 01:59:31,150
Rail Plan goals. So, as Aaron

3187
01:59:31,150 --> 01:59:33,351
mentioned, together we explored

3188
01:59:33,351 --> 01:59:34,786
the possibility of

3189
01:59:34,786 --> 01:59:36,654
subcontracting the service to

3190
01:59:36,654 --> 01:59:38,389
Metrolink and allowing them to

3191
01:59:38,389 --> 01:59:40,190
temporarily utilize the

3192
01:59:40,190 --> 01:59:41,292
Lausanne Agency's track access

3193
01:59:41,292 --> 01:59:43,394
rights that we currently have

3194
01:59:43,394 --> 01:59:44,829
with Union Pacific. We have

3195
01:59:44,829 --> 01:59:46,664
this access agreement directly

3196
01:59:46,664 --> 01:59:48,399
with Union Pacific, which

3197
01:59:48,399 --> 01:59:49,867
currently allows us to run the

3198
01:59:49,867 --> 01:59:51,867
Amtrak Pacific Surfliner

3199
01:59:52,437 --> 01:59:54,272
service. So the Lausanne sb,

3200
01:59:54,272 --> 01:59:56,700
cag, ctc and Metrolink teams

3201
01:59:56,700 --> 01:59:57,842
worked together on this path

3202
01:59:57,842 --> 01:59:59,777
when really two major milestone

3203
01:59:59,777 --> 02:00:01,412
or events happen that created

3204
02:00:01,412 --> 02:00:02,980
the opportunity that we

3205
02:00:02,980 --> 02:00:04,983
currently have before us. And

3206
02:00:04,983 --> 02:00:06,918
these events do tie into the

3207
02:00:06,918 --> 02:00:07,919
Lausanne board direction to

3208
02:00:07,919 --> 02:00:09,754
prioritize the intercity rail

3209
02:00:09,754 --> 02:00:11,856
service expansion that I will

3210
02:00:11,856 --> 02:00:13,324
get into. The first is really

3211
02:00:13,324 --> 02:00:15,493
in the JULY time frame. The

3212
02:00:15,493 --> 02:00:17,695
Lausanne Agency, as Aaron had

3213
02:00:17,695 --> 02:00:19,429
mentioned, had learned that Up

3214
02:00:19,429 --> 02:00:20,564
would require a completely new

3215
02:00:20,564 --> 02:00:22,964
operating agreement between the

3216
02:00:23,768 --> 02:00:25,503
Lausanne Agency and up and up

3217
02:00:25,503 --> 02:00:27,338
to identify Metrolink as an

3218
02:00:27,338 --> 02:00:28,573
alternative operator. This

3219
02:00:28,573 --> 02:00:30,174
requirement became necessary

3220
02:00:30,174 --> 02:00:32,430
for Union Pacific because

3221
02:00:32,430 --> 02:00:33,444
Metrolink transitioned from

3222
02:00:33,444 --> 02:00:35,246
contracting directly their

3223
02:00:35,246 --> 02:00:37,415
operations, with Amtrak over to

3224
02:00:37,415 --> 02:00:38,550
Alstom. Up also communicated,

3225
02:00:38,550 --> 02:00:39,918
as Erin had mentioned, that

3226
02:00:39,918 --> 02:00:41,152
given their resources being

3227
02:00:41,152 --> 02:00:43,221
fully dedicated to their work

3228
02:00:43,221 --> 02:00:44,889
on their national merger, that

3229
02:00:44,889 --> 02:00:46,900
as soon as they could provide a

3230
02:00:46,900 --> 02:00:48,693
draft agreement for us to

3231
02:00:48,693 --> 02:00:50,461
review would be q1 of 2026. And

3232
02:00:50,461 --> 02:00:52,564
of course, once received that

3233
02:00:52,564 --> 02:00:54,299
draft agreement, we would need

3234
02:00:54,299 --> 02:00:55,800
to that agreement would need to

3235
02:00:55,800 --> 02:00:57,268
be reviewed and negotiated,

3236
02:00:57,268 --> 02:00:59,360
which really made the timing of

3237
02:00:59,360 --> 02:01:01,360
the Metrolink subcontract

3238
02:01:01,205 --> 02:01:03,474
really time uncertain. So the

3239
02:01:03,474 --> 02:01:06,474
second major event was really

3240
02:01:06,611 --> 02:01:08,460
the clarity around equipment

3241
02:01:08,460 --> 02:01:09,112
availability. Equipment

3242
02:01:09,112 --> 02:01:10,915
availability has been one of

3243
02:01:10,915 --> 02:01:12,650
the primary constraints for the

3244
02:01:12,650 --> 02:01:13,918
Lausanne Agency to be able to

3245
02:01:13,918 --> 02:01:15,687
implement additional service

3246
02:01:15,687 --> 02:01:18,122
north of Los Angeles, but in

3247
02:01:18,122 --> 02:01:19,290
late SEPTEMBER, we received a

3248
02:01:19,290 --> 02:01:21,250
Pre-award authority letter from

3249
02:01:21,250 --> 02:01:23,250
the Federal Railroad

3250
02:01:23,528 --> 02:01:24,795
Administration committing to

3251
02:01:24,795 --> 02:01:26,931
$27 million in a Restoration

3252
02:01:26,931 --> 02:01:29,634
and Enhancement Grant award to

3253
02:01:29,634 --> 02:01:31,369
the Lausanne Agency to support

3254
02:01:31,369 --> 02:01:32,537
intercity rail service

3255
02:01:32,537 --> 02:01:35,106
restoration. And I'm proud to

3256
02:01:35,106 --> 02:01:36,875
say that this is the first

3257
02:01:36,875 --> 02:01:38,610
federal grant awarded to the

3258
02:01:38,610 --> 02:01:39,878
Lausanne Agency, and it

3259
02:01:39,878 --> 02:01:42,278
supports the full restoration

3260
02:01:42,614 --> 02:01:44,415
of pre-covid service levels by

3261
02:01:44,415 --> 02:01:46,584
restoring the 11th, 12th and

3262
02:01:46,584 --> 02:01:48,686
13th round trips between la and

3263
02:01:48,686 --> 02:01:51,589
San Diego. We were running 13

3264
02:01:51,589 --> 02:01:52,657
round trips pre-covid, and I'm

3265
02:01:52,657 --> 02:01:54,225
pleased to share that we have

3266
02:01:54,225 --> 02:01:56,294
already implemented the 11th

3267
02:01:56,294 --> 02:01:57,829
and 12th round trips and just

3268
02:01:57,829 --> 02:01:59,464
announced this week our plans

3269
02:01:59,464 --> 02:02:01,332
for the implementation of the

3270
02:02:01,332 --> 02:02:04,202
13th round trip between la and

3271
02:02:04,202 --> 02:02:06,337
San Diego starting JANUARY 26th.

3272
02:02:06,337 --> 02:02:07,472
So to support this service

3273
02:02:07,472 --> 02:02:09,872
restoration, Caltrans and the

3274
02:02:11,376 --> 02:02:13,611
three California Jpas agreed on

3275
02:02:13,611 --> 02:02:15,346
a redeployment plan to be able

3276
02:02:15,346 --> 02:02:17,248
to redeploy equipment from the

3277
02:02:17,248 --> 02:02:18,950
Northern California fleet down

3278
02:02:18,950 --> 02:02:21,850
to the Lausanne Agency to be

3279
02:02:21,850 --> 02:02:22,554
ready for service restoration.

3280
02:02:22,554 --> 02:02:24,880
This equipment that is needed

3281
02:02:24,880 --> 02:02:26,157
for our service restoration for

3282
02:02:26,157 --> 02:02:28,260
the 13th round trip will also

3283
02:02:28,260 --> 02:02:29,426
provide sufficient capacity to

3284
02:02:29,426 --> 02:02:31,930
allow for service expansion in

3285
02:02:31,930 --> 02:02:33,163
the North. So with these

3286
02:02:33,163 --> 02:02:35,133
developments back in NOVEMBER,

3287
02:02:35,133 --> 02:02:36,900
the Lausanne Agency Board

3288
02:02:36,900 --> 02:02:39,300
directed staff to prioritize

3289
02:02:39,470 --> 02:02:41,272
efforts to pursue the Pacific

3290
02:02:41,272 --> 02:02:42,707
Surfliner service expansion,

3291
02:02:42,707 --> 02:02:43,908
including the six round trip to

3292
02:02:43,908 --> 02:02:45,977
Goleta and the third round trip

3293
02:02:45,977 --> 02:02:47,712
to San Luis Obispo as the

3294
02:02:47,712 --> 02:02:50,480
pathway to provide additional

3295
02:02:50,480 --> 02:02:51,950
service. So I know Aaron will

3296
02:02:51,950 --> 02:02:53,151
dive into a little bit more of

3297
02:02:53,151 --> 02:02:54,953
the details on the next slide.

3298
02:02:54,953 --> 02:02:56,521
As far as the expanded service

3299
02:02:56,521 --> 02:02:58,156
pilot proposal itself, however,

3300
02:02:58,156 --> 02:02:59,991
I did want to mention that we

3301
02:02:59,991 --> 02:03:01,920
do view this as a great

3302
02:03:01,920 --> 02:03:03,492
opportunity to advance State

3303
02:03:03,661 --> 02:03:05,290
Rail plan goals, maximize the

3304
02:03:05,290 --> 02:03:07,564
investment the state has made

3305
02:03:07,564 --> 02:03:08,633
in the U.P. Owned territory,

3306
02:03:08,633 --> 02:03:10,568
provide not only greater

3307
02:03:10,568 --> 02:03:12,568
regional benefits, regional

3308
02:03:12,937 --> 02:03:14,105
rail benefits by providing peak

3309
02:03:14,105 --> 02:03:16,139
period service to Ventura and

3310
02:03:16,139 --> 02:03:17,609
Santa Barbara, but also

3311
02:03:17,609 --> 02:03:20,900
expanding service along the

3312
02:03:20,111 --> 02:03:21,579
entire corridor with a midday

3313
02:03:21,579 --> 02:03:23,979
departure southbound from San

3314
02:03:24,148 --> 02:03:26,551
Luis Obispo just after the 12

3315
02:03:26,551 --> 02:03:28,720
P.M. Slot. This will also

3316
02:03:28,720 --> 02:03:30,255
provide additional rail service

3317
02:03:30,255 --> 02:03:32,724
options for the World Cup

3318
02:03:32,724 --> 02:03:35,627
coming up very soon. And so we

3319
02:03:35,627 --> 02:03:37,600
are proposing a 12 month pilot

3320
02:03:37,600 --> 02:03:39,600
utilizing temporary funding

3321
02:03:39,964 --> 02:03:42,133
from both Vctc and sb cag, as

3322
02:03:42,133 --> 02:03:43,868
well as a portion of Lausanne

3323
02:03:43,868 --> 02:03:45,703
Agency's estimated operational

3324
02:03:45,703 --> 02:03:47,572
budget savings. To fund this

3325
02:03:47,572 --> 02:03:48,940
pilot, the Lausanne Agency

3326
02:03:48,940 --> 02:03:50,375
intends to continue to include

3327
02:03:50,375 --> 02:03:51,843
the proposed service in our

3328
02:03:51,843 --> 02:03:54,243
annual business plan and

3329
02:03:54,345 --> 02:03:57,345
funding request to the state.

3330
02:03:57,582 --> 02:03:59,751
However, given the state's

3331
02:03:59,751 --> 02:04:01,886
outlook on the the next budget

3332
02:04:01,886 --> 02:04:03,321
proposal, we will also be

3333
02:04:03,321 --> 02:04:05,523
working with stakeholders to

3334
02:04:05,523 --> 02:04:07,324
identify and pursue any federal

3335
02:04:07,324 --> 02:04:08,660
funding sources or any other

3336
02:04:08,660 --> 02:04:10,194
funding sources that MAY be

3337
02:04:10,194 --> 02:04:12,630
able to sustain the service

3338
02:04:12,630 --> 02:04:13,398
after the 12 month period. So

3339
02:04:13,398 --> 02:04:15,165
we're going to be taking the

3340
02:04:15,165 --> 02:04:16,634
lead on on doing that to make

3341
02:04:16,634 --> 02:04:18,436
sure that we can identify

3342
02:04:18,436 --> 02:04:20,238
funding to be able to sustain

3343
02:04:20,238 --> 02:04:22,638
this service beyond the 12

3344
02:04:22,774 --> 02:04:24,908
months. So now I will hand it

3345
02:04:24,908 --> 02:04:26,578
back over to Aaron to provide a

3346
02:04:26,578 --> 02:04:27,812
little bit more details on the

3347
02:04:27,812 --> 02:04:29,280
Amtrak Pacific Surfliner

3348
02:04:29,280 --> 02:04:31,416
service proposal itself, as

3349
02:04:31,416 --> 02:04:35,160
well as as it relates to

3350
02:04:37,855 --> 02:04:39,855
Metrolink's proposal. Jason.

3351
02:04:40,792 --> 02:04:41,859
All right. So much of the

3352
02:04:41,859 --> 02:04:43,228
proposal by Lausanne is

3353
02:04:43,228 --> 02:04:44,529
actually quite like what we've

3354
02:04:44,529 --> 02:04:46,929
seen from Metrolink already.

3355
02:04:46,930 --> 02:04:48,166
And in fact, the timetable

3356
02:04:48,166 --> 02:04:49,400
northbound is nearly identical

3357
02:04:49,400 --> 02:04:50,935
to what was previously

3358
02:04:50,935 --> 02:04:53,710
presented to the board. And

3359
02:04:53,710 --> 02:04:54,771
I'll show that in just a moment.

3360
02:04:54,771 --> 02:04:56,241
So specifically, the train will

3361
02:04:56,241 --> 02:04:58,420
travel north from La Union

3362
02:04:58,420 --> 02:04:59,510
Station through the area of

3363
02:04:59,510 --> 02:05:00,612
Ventura County and into Santa

3364
02:05:00,612 --> 02:05:02,347
Barbara County, getting to

3365
02:05:02,347 --> 02:05:03,514
Goleta at approximately the

3366
02:05:03,514 --> 02:05:05,490
same time. From there, it'll

3367
02:05:05,490 --> 02:05:06,251
continue north into San Luis

3368
02:05:06,251 --> 02:05:08,486
Obispo. And as Jason mentioned,

3369
02:05:08,486 --> 02:05:10,655
we'll return south, providing a

3370
02:05:10,655 --> 02:05:11,856
corridor wide train. There are

3371
02:05:11,856 --> 02:05:13,157
cost savings associated with

3372
02:05:13,157 --> 02:05:14,591
this proposal that were not

3373
02:05:14,591 --> 02:05:15,727
previously available under the

3374
02:05:15,727 --> 02:05:16,361
Metrolink, and that is

3375
02:05:16,361 --> 02:05:18,563
specifically because we're able

3376
02:05:18,563 --> 02:05:20,365
to help we're able to leverage

3377
02:05:20,365 --> 02:05:21,599
Lausanne's buying power and and

3378
02:05:21,599 --> 02:05:23,401
ability to work with Amtrak,

3379
02:05:23,401 --> 02:05:25,436
but also that their r&d grant,

3380
02:05:25,436 --> 02:05:26,404
this federal grant that they

3381
02:05:26,404 --> 02:05:27,538
received, we're able to

3382
02:05:27,538 --> 02:05:29,700
leverage that with the advent

3383
02:05:29,700 --> 02:05:30,108
of the additional train

3384
02:05:30,108 --> 02:05:30,909
equipment. So there's some

3385
02:05:30,909 --> 02:05:33,309
significant cost savings that

3386
02:05:33,711 --> 02:05:34,779
are coming, not to mention the

3387
02:05:34,779 --> 02:05:36,314
increase in passenger fare

3388
02:05:36,314 --> 02:05:38,160
revenue that's anticipated for,

3389
02:05:38,160 --> 02:05:39,450
in particular, that southbound

3390
02:05:39,450 --> 02:05:40,285
train that is a bit more

3391
02:05:40,285 --> 02:05:42,186
productive, as it will head

3392
02:05:42,186 --> 02:05:44,220
from all the way from San Luis

3393
02:05:44,220 --> 02:05:45,220
Obispo to San Diego. So there's

3394
02:05:45,220 --> 02:05:46,900
additional fare revenues or

3395
02:05:46,900 --> 02:05:47,291
operating revenues that will be

3396
02:05:47,291 --> 02:05:49,159
borne as a result of this

3397
02:05:49,159 --> 02:05:51,329
additional service. And then

3398
02:05:51,329 --> 02:05:52,764
lastly, as a as a buyer of

3399
02:05:52,764 --> 02:05:54,566
services from Metrolink

3400
02:05:54,566 --> 02:05:56,434
separate from their existing

3401
02:05:56,434 --> 02:05:58,502
jpa, both Vctc and sb, cag

3402
02:05:58,502 --> 02:05:59,671
would have to wholly fund their

3403
02:05:59,671 --> 02:06:01,439
entire cost of the project,

3404
02:06:01,439 --> 02:06:02,640
which would include their

3405
02:06:02,640 --> 02:06:04,640
self-insured retention policy,

3406
02:06:05,376 --> 02:06:06,844
which was a significant cost

3407
02:06:06,844 --> 02:06:08,646
associated with the service.

3408
02:06:08,646 --> 02:06:10,646
Approximately $5 million

3409
02:06:16,120 --> 02:06:17,188
self-insured retention pool would be made available if,

3410
02:06:17,188 --> 02:06:18,957
in fact, Metrolink were to

3411
02:06:18,957 --> 02:06:21,392
proceed forward, and so there's

3412
02:06:21,392 --> 02:06:22,594
some expedited in scheduling

3413
02:06:22,594 --> 02:06:25,530
that's anticipated to. As a

3414
02:06:25,530 --> 02:06:26,598
result, with regard to the

3415
02:06:26,598 --> 02:06:27,998
schedule, these are the two

3416
02:06:27,998 --> 02:06:29,866
trips that would be added

3417
02:06:29,866 --> 02:06:31,603
highlighted in yellow. You'll

3418
02:06:31,603 --> 02:06:33,504
notice the time into Goleta is

3419
02:06:33,504 --> 02:06:35,206
is close to, if not the same as

3420
02:06:35,206 --> 02:06:37,800
what was previously presented.

3421
02:06:37,800 --> 02:06:38,475
There have been some minor time

3422
02:06:38,475 --> 02:06:40,110
adjustments by the host

3423
02:06:40,110 --> 02:06:41,512
railroad in particular, which

3424
02:06:41,512 --> 02:06:42,747
would have been true whether or

3425
02:06:42,747 --> 02:06:44,150
not it was Metrolink operating

3426
02:06:44,150 --> 02:06:45,516
on the corridor or Lausanne.

3427
02:06:45,516 --> 02:06:46,618
These are the exact same trip

3428
02:06:46,618 --> 02:06:48,853
times that are feasible given

3429
02:06:48,853 --> 02:06:50,221
the existing slot. The

3430
02:06:50,221 --> 02:06:51,689
southbound trip, which, as

3431
02:06:51,689 --> 02:06:53,491
Jason mentioned, will begin

3432
02:06:53,491 --> 02:06:54,592
just after noon in San Luis

3433
02:06:54,592 --> 02:06:56,728
Obispo, will travel the whole

3434
02:06:56,728 --> 02:06:58,663
corridor and through Union

3435
02:06:58,663 --> 02:07:00,663
Station at approximately 5:50

3436
02:07:04,335 --> 02:07:05,637
P.M. And further south. So what

3437
02:07:05,637 --> 02:07:07,171
are some of the next steps? As

3438
02:07:07,171 --> 02:07:09,240
Jason mentioned, the the

3439
02:07:09,240 --> 02:07:11,750
agreement or rather the the

3440
02:07:11,750 --> 02:07:12,877
proposal is before sb, cag and

3441
02:07:12,877 --> 02:07:14,678
Vctc. Right now we're in

3442
02:07:14,678 --> 02:07:16,114
negotiations. The the final

3443
02:07:16,114 --> 02:07:18,349
draft proposal we hope to bring

3444
02:07:18,349 --> 02:07:20,585
back to the board in FEBRUARY.

3445
02:07:20,585 --> 02:07:21,953
There is the expectation that

3446
02:07:21,953 --> 02:07:23,721
the state's approval process

3447
02:07:23,721 --> 02:07:25,823
will be completed by then. We

3448
02:07:25,823 --> 02:07:27,659
hope that that will be positive.

3449
02:07:27,659 --> 02:07:28,993
But ultimately this is a state

3450
02:07:28,993 --> 02:07:30,528
supported service, and so they

3451
02:07:30,528 --> 02:07:31,996
have to sign off on any

3452
02:07:31,996 --> 02:07:33,197
expansion. So there is there is

3453
02:07:33,197 --> 02:07:34,532
that waiting period where we're

3454
02:07:34,532 --> 02:07:36,634
looking forward to the state's

3455
02:07:36,634 --> 02:07:37,868
review of this, where before we

3456
02:07:37,868 --> 02:07:39,537
come back to you in FEBRUARY,

3457
02:07:39,537 --> 02:07:42,407
we anticipate getting that that

3458
02:07:42,407 --> 02:07:43,875
green light following the board

3459
02:07:43,875 --> 02:07:45,677
approvals. We'll begin on the

3460
02:07:45,677 --> 02:07:46,778
concerted marketing efforts

3461
02:07:46,778 --> 02:07:48,213
between Ventura County and

3462
02:07:48,213 --> 02:07:49,247
Santa Barbara County. Largely

3463
02:07:49,247 --> 02:07:50,748
speaking, Ventura will work

3464
02:07:50,748 --> 02:07:51,816
with its residents and

3465
02:07:51,816 --> 02:07:53,840
constituencies in the South,

3466
02:07:53,840 --> 02:07:54,850
and we'll work with the

3467
02:07:54,850 --> 02:07:55,186
employers and the larger

3468
02:07:55,186 --> 02:07:57,880
organizations here in the North

3469
02:07:57,880 --> 02:07:58,323
to make sure that word is out

3470
02:07:58,323 --> 02:08:00,910
and that all of the available

3471
02:08:00,910 --> 02:08:01,292
riders know of the service and

3472
02:08:01,292 --> 02:08:02,460
are ready to use it. We also

3473
02:08:02,460 --> 02:08:04,162
have some additional grant

3474
02:08:04,162 --> 02:08:05,263
funds that were awarded to sb,

3475
02:08:05,263 --> 02:08:06,564
cag previously by the state

3476
02:08:06,564 --> 02:08:08,333
that were made available

3477
02:08:08,333 --> 02:08:09,600
specifically to assist with the

3478
02:08:09,600 --> 02:08:11,202
the ticket pricing with regard

3479
02:08:11,202 --> 02:08:12,737
to Amtrak Pacific Surfliner,

3480
02:08:12,737 --> 02:08:14,471
which will go into effect as

3481
02:08:14,471 --> 02:08:15,807
well. And we'll be helpful in

3482
02:08:15,807 --> 02:08:17,408
buying down the fares and

3483
02:08:17,408 --> 02:08:19,410
making costs affordable to the

3484
02:08:19,410 --> 02:08:20,511
riders. So I mentioned the

3485
02:08:20,511 --> 02:08:22,713
timeline ahead, and with that,

3486
02:08:22,713 --> 02:08:24,315
I'd be happy to answer any

3487
02:08:24,315 --> 02:08:26,715
questions. All right. Questions

3488
02:08:26,985 --> 02:08:28,486
from directors I see Director

3489
02:08:28,486 --> 02:08:32,860
Capps. And then I'll come to

3490
02:08:33,858 --> 02:08:36,258
Director Hartman over. Sorry

3491
02:08:36,461 --> 02:08:40,610
about that. Just a little cozy

3492
02:08:40,698 --> 02:08:43,268
down here in Goleta. Well,

3493
02:08:43,268 --> 02:08:46,236
thank you for this. And I just

3494
02:08:46,236 --> 02:08:48,673
applaud the the plan b, and

3495
02:08:48,673 --> 02:08:52,243
although I know our high hopes

3496
02:08:52,243 --> 02:08:54,112
are have been dashed, it's not

3497
02:08:54,112 --> 02:08:55,880
for lack of all of the work

3498
02:08:55,880 --> 02:08:57,282
that this agency went into. You

3499
02:08:57,282 --> 02:08:59,551
did everything. You lined up

3500
02:08:59,551 --> 02:09:00,985
the funds, the operator. And

3501
02:09:00,985 --> 02:09:02,686
it's really the stumbling block

3502
02:09:02,686 --> 02:09:04,455
that I understand has been in

3503
02:09:04,455 --> 02:09:05,957
place for a long time. So I

3504
02:09:05,957 --> 02:09:07,580
just before I ask about that.

3505
02:09:07,580 --> 02:09:09,227
And MR. Jewell, thanks for

3506
02:09:09,227 --> 02:09:12,163
being here. Welcome back to the

3507
02:09:12,163 --> 02:09:14,650
county. I just kind of want to

3508
02:09:14,650 --> 02:09:16,734
get my head around a little bit

3509
02:09:16,734 --> 02:09:19,237
with Union Pacific. They just

3510
02:09:19,237 --> 02:09:21,439
basically said we're we can't

3511
02:09:21,439 --> 02:09:24,976
we're too busy with our merger

3512
02:09:24,976 --> 02:09:26,811
to focus on this. Is that is

3513
02:09:26,811 --> 02:09:28,947
that the understanding? You

3514
02:09:28,947 --> 02:09:30,148
know, I will have to defer to a

3515
02:09:30,148 --> 02:09:31,683
managing director, Jewell, with

3516
02:09:31,683 --> 02:09:33,510
regard to the specific response

3517
02:09:33,510 --> 02:09:34,185
from Union Pacific. But that's

3518
02:09:34,185 --> 02:09:36,200
our understanding, is that they

3519
02:09:36,200 --> 02:09:37,255
would be able to begin working

3520
02:09:37,255 --> 02:09:39,570
on the agreement. Mind you,

3521
02:09:39,570 --> 02:09:40,491
just starting off on that

3522
02:09:40,491 --> 02:09:41,960
process at about this time or

3523
02:09:41,960 --> 02:09:43,393
sometime between now and the

3524
02:09:43,393 --> 02:09:44,796
end of the first quarter. And

3525
02:09:44,796 --> 02:09:47,332
so because they own the tracks,

3526
02:09:47,332 --> 02:09:48,967
they essentially control the

3527
02:09:48,967 --> 02:09:51,967
timeline of when this would

3528
02:09:52,360 --> 02:09:54,539
have gone forward. Okay. But so

3529
02:09:54,539 --> 02:09:56,700
again, just just trying to

3530
02:09:56,700 --> 02:09:57,442
clarity but because there's

3531
02:09:57,442 --> 02:09:58,610
already agreement with Lausanne,

3532
02:09:58,610 --> 02:09:59,978
it can be expanded without

3533
02:09:59,978 --> 02:10:02,113
having to go through all of

3534
02:10:02,113 --> 02:10:03,114
that process with with them.

3535
02:10:03,114 --> 02:10:04,349
That's my understanding. For

3536
02:10:04,349 --> 02:10:06,117
that, I'll defer to Jason on

3537
02:10:06,117 --> 02:10:07,352
the exact number of trips, and

3538
02:10:07,352 --> 02:10:09,220
I just want to. So the nature

3539
02:10:09,220 --> 02:10:11,222
of my question is just to say,

3540
02:10:11,222 --> 02:10:13,910
like, are we are we on a good

3541
02:10:13,910 --> 02:10:15,590
path here? It sounds like with

3542
02:10:15,590 --> 02:10:16,127
the tone of your voice is very

3543
02:10:16,127 --> 02:10:18,696
optimistic. But again, we we

3544
02:10:18,696 --> 02:10:20,965
had a lot of optimism here for

3545
02:10:20,965 --> 02:10:22,967
the other plan. Yeah. Through

3546
02:10:22,967 --> 02:10:24,802
the chair, Director Capps. Yes,

3547
02:10:24,802 --> 02:10:26,571
we do have, as I mentioned, our

3548
02:10:26,571 --> 02:10:28,740
direct access agreement with Up.

3549
02:10:28,740 --> 02:10:30,909
It provides us two additional

3550
02:10:30,909 --> 02:10:32,709
train slots on the north end of

3551
02:10:32,709 --> 02:10:34,112
the corridor that we have

3552
02:10:34,112 --> 02:10:35,213
access to. So this would

3553
02:10:35,213 --> 02:10:37,480
utilize one of those train

3554
02:10:37,480 --> 02:10:39,617
slots moving forward. We do

3555
02:10:39,617 --> 02:10:40,752
have plans long term,

3556
02:10:40,752 --> 02:10:42,860
consistent with our state rail

3557
02:10:42,860 --> 02:10:44,288
plan, long term goals to

3558
02:10:44,288 --> 02:10:45,657
fulfill that second slot and

3559
02:10:45,657 --> 02:10:47,125
provide an additional service

3560
02:10:47,125 --> 02:10:48,259
beyond the six round trip to

3561
02:10:48,259 --> 02:10:50,328
Goleta and third round trip to

3562
02:10:50,328 --> 02:10:52,129
San Luis Obispo. But to

3563
02:10:52,129 --> 02:10:53,932
directly answer your question,

3564
02:10:53,932 --> 02:10:55,533
yes, Upea has confirmed that

3565
02:10:55,533 --> 02:10:57,168
under our current agreement

3566
02:10:57,168 --> 02:10:58,236
with them, there's no other

3567
02:10:58,236 --> 02:11:00,380
additional amendments or

3568
02:11:00,380 --> 02:11:02,239
anything necessary. We have the

3569
02:11:02,239 --> 02:11:03,975
rights to to utilize those

3570
02:11:03,975 --> 02:11:07,575
slots and to utilize them as

3571
02:11:07,979 --> 02:11:10,114
soon as we want to. Okay, so so

3572
02:11:10,114 --> 02:11:12,830
no more additional funding

3573
02:11:12,830 --> 02:11:13,351
commitments are needed. Again,

3574
02:11:13,351 --> 02:11:15,190
I just you know, what the

3575
02:11:15,190 --> 02:11:16,120
reason, the nature of my

3576
02:11:16,120 --> 02:11:17,322
questions is that, you know,

3577
02:11:17,322 --> 02:11:19,220
we've all been dealing with the

3578
02:11:19,220 --> 02:11:20,225
101, all of the implications.

3579
02:11:20,225 --> 02:11:22,759
We don't need to go through

3580
02:11:22,759 --> 02:11:23,828
them. But from a computer

3581
02:11:23,828 --> 02:11:25,230
perspective, the impacts that

3582
02:11:25,230 --> 02:11:26,664
has on people's lives and also

3583
02:11:26,664 --> 02:11:28,166
our climate and Union Pacific

3584
02:11:28,166 --> 02:11:29,534
has been such an incredible

3585
02:11:29,534 --> 02:11:30,735
roadblock. And now here we are

3586
02:11:30,735 --> 02:11:32,804
with all this excitement about

3587
02:11:32,804 --> 02:11:34,606
this Metrolink plan and all the

3588
02:11:34,606 --> 02:11:37,842
work. I just want to I just

3589
02:11:37,842 --> 02:11:39,677
want to hear what potential

3590
02:11:39,677 --> 02:11:41,445
challenges lay ahead. But so

3591
02:11:41,445 --> 02:11:42,981
far you haven't outlined any

3592
02:11:42,981 --> 02:11:44,549
serious ones that this board

3593
02:11:44,549 --> 02:11:46,840
needs to be concerned about at

3594
02:11:46,840 --> 02:11:47,952
this point. Right. The only

3595
02:11:47,952 --> 02:11:50,952
other potential challenge as I,

3596
02:11:51,122 --> 02:11:53,691
as I alluded to, is future

3597
02:11:53,691 --> 02:11:55,793
funding. Okay. This is being

3598
02:11:55,793 --> 02:11:57,629
proposed between the three

3599
02:11:57,629 --> 02:12:00,290
stakeholders as a 12 month

3600
02:12:00,130 --> 02:12:01,999
pilot, really, to not only

3601
02:12:01,999 --> 02:12:04,502
understand the demand and the

3602
02:12:04,502 --> 02:12:06,304
trends and look at how the

3603
02:12:06,304 --> 02:12:07,739
train performs, but also

3604
02:12:07,739 --> 02:12:09,541
because this, as Aaron

3605
02:12:09,541 --> 02:12:10,909
mentioned, our intercity rail

3606
02:12:10,909 --> 02:12:13,845
service has historically been a

3607
02:12:13,845 --> 02:12:16,381
state funded program. The state

3608
02:12:16,381 --> 02:12:17,749
has signaled that the interest

3609
02:12:17,749 --> 02:12:19,250
that the state budget as a

3610
02:12:19,250 --> 02:12:21,510
whole, but particularly the

3611
02:12:21,510 --> 02:12:22,487
intercity rail budget moving

3612
02:12:22,487 --> 02:12:23,955
forward, they have concerns

3613
02:12:23,955 --> 02:12:25,323
about. So we will continue to

3614
02:12:25,323 --> 02:12:26,791
work with them through our

3615
02:12:26,791 --> 02:12:28,426
annual budget requests that we

3616
02:12:28,426 --> 02:12:29,660
do through our annual business

3617
02:12:29,660 --> 02:12:30,828
plan submittal with them, as

3618
02:12:30,828 --> 02:12:32,564
well as, as I mentioned, look

3619
02:12:32,564 --> 02:12:34,964
for other funding opportunities

3620
02:12:35,660 --> 02:12:36,668
that can help sustain not only

3621
02:12:36,668 --> 02:12:38,369
this pilot program moving on

3622
02:12:38,369 --> 02:12:41,539
into the future, but also our

3623
02:12:41,539 --> 02:12:43,308
our intercity rail program. So

3624
02:12:43,308 --> 02:12:45,900
the funding in the future is

3625
02:12:45,900 --> 02:12:46,611
always a concern of ours when

3626
02:12:46,611 --> 02:12:47,478
we hear about the state budget

3627
02:12:47,478 --> 02:12:49,480
outlook. And that's something

3628
02:12:49,480 --> 02:12:51,716
that we do work with the state

3629
02:12:51,716 --> 02:12:53,384
on, on an annual basis. So I'm

3630
02:12:53,384 --> 02:12:56,984
sure you're all aware of the

3631
02:12:57,210 --> 02:12:59,290
the governor's address for the

3632
02:12:59,290 --> 02:13:01,359
the governor's address and some

3633
02:13:01,359 --> 02:13:03,293
of the state budget concerns

3634
02:13:03,293 --> 02:13:04,429
that are lying ahead. So, like

3635
02:13:04,429 --> 02:13:06,731
I mentioned, we will continue

3636
02:13:06,731 --> 02:13:08,967
to work with the state on that

3637
02:13:08,967 --> 02:13:11,436
funding and do everything we

3638
02:13:11,436 --> 02:13:13,238
can to ensure not only that our

3639
02:13:13,238 --> 02:13:14,672
intercity rail services, our

3640
02:13:14,672 --> 02:13:16,740
baseline services, can be

3641
02:13:16,740 --> 02:13:18,643
funded, but also that this 12

3642
02:13:18,643 --> 02:13:21,112
month pilot program can be

3643
02:13:21,112 --> 02:13:23,281
sustained as well. Thank you

3644
02:13:23,281 --> 02:13:25,483
again. I just applaud the

3645
02:13:25,483 --> 02:13:27,318
tenacity and trying to just to

3646
02:13:27,318 --> 02:13:29,870
look for another plan when this

3647
02:13:29,870 --> 02:13:30,855
one, the first one that we all

3648
02:13:30,855 --> 02:13:32,657
voted for and we had a lot of

3649
02:13:32,657 --> 02:13:34,492
enthusiasm, didn't pan out and

3650
02:13:34,492 --> 02:13:36,261
I expressed just my frustration

3651
02:13:36,261 --> 02:13:38,620
towards Union Pacific for,

3652
02:13:38,620 --> 02:13:39,897
again, just being such a block

3653
02:13:39,897 --> 02:13:42,330
on something that all of us

3654
02:13:42,330 --> 02:13:43,340
wanted to do. So thank you.

3655
02:13:43,340 --> 02:13:44,903
Thank you, Director Caps,

3656
02:13:44,903 --> 02:13:46,404
Director Hartman, I'm just

3657
02:13:46,404 --> 02:13:47,939
trying to be clear in my own

3658
02:13:47,939 --> 02:13:51,420
mind about the number of trips.

3659
02:13:51,420 --> 02:13:52,477
I think you said that 11 and 12

3660
02:13:52,477 --> 02:13:54,877
pre-covid have been restored,

3661
02:13:55,380 --> 02:13:58,181
and 13 is about to come. I

3662
02:13:58,181 --> 02:14:00,351
heard advertisements on on the

3663
02:14:00,351 --> 02:14:02,554
radio today about expanded

3664
02:14:02,554 --> 02:14:04,689
service. And so what you're

3665
02:14:04,689 --> 02:14:06,858
talking about is additional.

3666
02:14:06,858 --> 02:14:09,727
Could you lay that out for me?

3667
02:14:09,727 --> 02:14:12,664
Sure. Definitely. So yes. So we

3668
02:14:12,664 --> 02:14:14,198
have restored our 11th and 12th

3669
02:14:14,198 --> 02:14:15,833
round trips between Los Angeles

3670
02:14:15,833 --> 02:14:16,935
and San Diego. As I mentioned,

3671
02:14:16,935 --> 02:14:19,136
pre-covid, we had 13 round

3672
02:14:19,136 --> 02:14:21,673
trips between la and San Diego,

3673
02:14:21,673 --> 02:14:23,808
so we restored 12 of those just

3674
02:14:23,808 --> 02:14:27,450
about to be 13 later this month.

3675
02:14:27,450 --> 02:14:28,780
So north of la, we have

3676
02:14:28,780 --> 02:14:30,181
historically ran five round

3677
02:14:30,181 --> 02:14:32,784
trips to Goleta and two to San

3678
02:14:32,784 --> 02:14:34,953
Luis Obispo. So this expansion

3679
02:14:34,953 --> 02:14:36,754
would essentially expand to six

3680
02:14:36,754 --> 02:14:38,323
round trips to Goleta and three

3681
02:14:38,323 --> 02:14:40,230
round trips to San Luis Obispo.

3682
02:14:40,230 --> 02:14:43,230
So the advertisement on the

3683
02:14:43,261 --> 02:14:46,861
radio today was San Diego to

3684
02:14:47,232 --> 02:14:48,999
slo. Is is what they said. So

3685
02:14:48,999 --> 02:14:51,569
to clarify, yes, that third

3686
02:14:51,569 --> 02:14:53,738
round trip to San Luis Obispo

3687
02:14:53,738 --> 02:14:56,738
would actually span the entire

3688
02:14:56,908 --> 02:14:59,908
corridor. Yeah, okay. Thank you,

3689
02:15:02,247 --> 02:15:04,582
Director Brown. I'd like to go.

3690
02:15:04,582 --> 02:15:06,982
You had mentioned the $27

3691
02:15:07,518 --> 02:15:08,953
million grant for equipment. Is

3692
02:15:08,953 --> 02:15:10,955
that for new rolling stock, or

3693
02:15:10,955 --> 02:15:12,790
is that rehabilitation of

3694
02:15:12,790 --> 02:15:15,260
existing stock and where's that

3695
02:15:15,260 --> 02:15:17,950
stock coming from? Yeah. And to

3696
02:15:17,950 --> 02:15:18,863
clarify the $27 million grant

3697
02:15:18,863 --> 02:15:20,331
award, the federal Fra

3698
02:15:20,331 --> 02:15:21,799
Restoration Enhancement Grant

3699
02:15:21,799 --> 02:15:23,568
award, it's actually

3700
02:15:23,568 --> 02:15:24,969
specifically for operations. So

3701
02:15:24,969 --> 02:15:26,838
unfortunately not for capital,

3702
02:15:26,838 --> 02:15:28,706
only for operations, and

3703
02:15:28,706 --> 02:15:30,775
specifically only to restore

3704
02:15:30,775 --> 02:15:32,977
our pre-covid service levels.

3705
02:15:32,977 --> 02:15:35,480
So it cannot be used for any

3706
02:15:35,480 --> 02:15:37,248
type of expansion beyond that

3707
02:15:37,248 --> 02:15:39,248
baseline pre-covid service

3708
02:15:40,518 --> 02:15:41,753
levels, which is 13 round trips.

3709
02:15:41,753 --> 02:15:44,153
So that's specifically what

3710
02:15:44,422 --> 02:15:45,590
they approved the award for.

3711
02:15:45,590 --> 02:15:46,624
All right. Thank you, Director

3712
02:15:46,624 --> 02:15:48,920
Brown, I've got a quick

3713
02:15:48,920 --> 02:15:49,494
question here. I'll take chair

3714
02:15:49,494 --> 02:15:50,595
prerogative to ask. So the

3715
02:15:50,595 --> 02:15:52,730
funding that's coming from sb

3716
02:15:52,730 --> 02:15:54,299
cag is funding. That's part of

3717
02:15:54,299 --> 02:15:55,967
the South County region. I just

3718
02:15:55,967 --> 02:15:57,902
want to make sure I clarified

3719
02:15:57,902 --> 02:15:59,938
that. Yes, that's correct. It's

3720
02:15:59,938 --> 02:16:01,372
through the the South Coast

3721
02:16:01,372 --> 02:16:02,840
program, the inter-regional or

3722
02:16:02,840 --> 02:16:04,509
passenger rail program. All

3723
02:16:04,509 --> 02:16:05,609
right. So there's not any North

3724
02:16:05,609 --> 02:16:06,911
County funds that are going

3725
02:16:06,911 --> 02:16:08,513
towards this this project. Nope.

3726
02:16:08,513 --> 02:16:10,682
The South County funds will run

3727
02:16:10,682 --> 02:16:12,150
the train north to to San Luis

3728
02:16:12,150 --> 02:16:13,618
Obispo on the South County.

3729
02:16:13,618 --> 02:16:16,618
Okay. Just wanted to clarify

3730
02:16:18,288 --> 02:16:20,458
that. Sorry, director Silva, I

3731
02:16:20,458 --> 02:16:21,526
think I just so I can further

3732
02:16:21,526 --> 02:16:22,594
understand the timeline because

3733
02:16:22,594 --> 02:16:24,395
there's a lot going on there.

3734
02:16:24,395 --> 02:16:26,264
So just so I understand so that

3735
02:16:26,264 --> 02:16:27,498
we can explain it, because I

3736
02:16:27,498 --> 02:16:29,267
know we were all very excited

3737
02:16:29,267 --> 02:16:30,368
when we voted last year to

3738
02:16:30,368 --> 02:16:31,469
bring Metrolink to it. So we

3739
02:16:31,469 --> 02:16:33,271
approved Metrolink. We want to

3740
02:16:33,271 --> 02:16:34,371
enter into that agreement. We

3741
02:16:34,371 --> 02:16:35,907
knew there were some risks

3742
02:16:35,907 --> 02:16:37,750
involved. There was mergers and

3743
02:16:37,750 --> 02:16:39,475
corporate things taking place

3744
02:16:39,878 --> 02:16:41,880
and all that. In JULY, we

3745
02:16:41,880 --> 02:16:43,448
become aware that it might be

3746
02:16:43,448 --> 02:16:44,515
more complex, there might be

3747
02:16:44,515 --> 02:16:45,717
new agreements needed to be

3748
02:16:45,717 --> 02:16:48,519
done. And then I'm just trying

3749
02:16:48,519 --> 02:16:50,722
to understand that from JULY on,

3750
02:16:50,722 --> 02:16:52,123
was it that we were trying to

3751
02:16:52,123 --> 02:16:53,925
figure out how to make

3752
02:16:53,925 --> 02:16:55,493
Metrolink work, or were we

3753
02:16:55,493 --> 02:16:57,562
operating under trying to find

3754
02:16:57,562 --> 02:16:58,662
the most easy solution, looking

3755
02:16:58,662 --> 02:16:59,731
for alternatives? I'm just

3756
02:16:59,731 --> 02:17:01,833
trying to know what the

3757
02:17:01,833 --> 02:17:03,902
timeline was for the pivot and

3758
02:17:03,902 --> 02:17:05,137
are for the sake of clarity.

3759
02:17:05,137 --> 02:17:06,905
It's just I want to make sure

3760
02:17:06,905 --> 02:17:07,971
we're making the decision to

3761
02:17:07,971 --> 02:17:09,774
support the project that is

3762
02:17:09,774 --> 02:17:11,209
best for the commuting

3763
02:17:11,209 --> 02:17:12,644
experience and the the customer,

3764
02:17:12,644 --> 02:17:14,379
and not the most convenient one.

3765
02:17:14,379 --> 02:17:15,413
I just was curious if you could

3766
02:17:15,413 --> 02:17:16,580
elaborate the timeline of how

3767
02:17:16,580 --> 02:17:18,416
this all fell into place,

3768
02:17:18,416 --> 02:17:20,285
because I know it took a long

3769
02:17:20,285 --> 02:17:21,386
time to get Metrolink going. Is

3770
02:17:21,386 --> 02:17:22,453
this just path of least

3771
02:17:22,453 --> 02:17:23,488
resistance, or is this the

3772
02:17:23,488 --> 02:17:26,324
ideal option that we can

3773
02:17:26,324 --> 02:17:27,759
provide? So to the first

3774
02:17:27,759 --> 02:17:29,193
question, the the response from

3775
02:17:29,193 --> 02:17:30,628
Union Pacific in the summer was

3776
02:17:30,628 --> 02:17:32,430
simply that we would need a new

3777
02:17:32,430 --> 02:17:33,965
agreement later in the fall.

3778
02:17:33,965 --> 02:17:35,333
They let us know that that

3779
02:17:35,333 --> 02:17:37,134
timeline would be to begin

3780
02:17:37,134 --> 02:17:40,134
working on it sometime this

3781
02:17:40,738 --> 02:17:41,972
quarter. So we knew at about

3782
02:17:41,972 --> 02:17:43,641
mid-OCTOBER that the pivot MAY

3783
02:17:43,641 --> 02:17:45,777
be necessary. Los Angeles

3784
02:17:45,777 --> 02:17:48,313
credit went to the board, asked

3785
02:17:48,313 --> 02:17:50,181
for authorization to prepare an

3786
02:17:50,181 --> 02:17:51,916
alternative proposal and work

3787
02:17:51,916 --> 02:17:54,385
with the stakeholders sb, cag,

3788
02:17:54,385 --> 02:17:56,654
and Vctc on a potential

3789
02:17:56,654 --> 02:17:59,540
alternative. Later that year,

3790
02:17:59,123 --> 02:18:01,226
in NOVEMBER, they got the

3791
02:18:01,226 --> 02:18:03,728
direction to proceed with that

3792
02:18:03,728 --> 02:18:05,196
proposal in prioritize it over

3793
02:18:05,196 --> 02:18:07,799
other options that might be

3794
02:18:07,799 --> 02:18:09,534
coming. With regard to the

3795
02:18:09,534 --> 02:18:10,635
convenience factor, I mean,

3796
02:18:10,635 --> 02:18:12,270
ultimately, Union Pacific is

3797
02:18:12,270 --> 02:18:13,471
the track owner. And so there

3798
02:18:13,471 --> 02:18:15,340
is a there is a lead time

3799
02:18:15,340 --> 02:18:16,541
concern. No matter what we do

3800
02:18:16,541 --> 02:18:18,877
when it comes to working with

3801
02:18:18,877 --> 02:18:19,978
the host railroads. But but

3802
02:18:19,978 --> 02:18:21,412
specifically the agreement

3803
02:18:21,412 --> 02:18:22,847
previously with Metrolink was

3804
02:18:22,847 --> 02:18:24,282
that we would have them prepare

3805
02:18:24,282 --> 02:18:26,117
a startup plan, working with

3806
02:18:26,117 --> 02:18:28,953
the host railroads. That was

3807
02:18:28,953 --> 02:18:30,421
simply just a plan to prepare

3808
02:18:30,421 --> 02:18:31,823
operations. And that low sand,

3809
02:18:31,823 --> 02:18:33,258
through its work with Metrolink,

3810
02:18:33,258 --> 02:18:34,392
would come up with a

3811
02:18:34,392 --> 02:18:36,227
subcontractor or operations and

3812
02:18:36,227 --> 02:18:37,562
maintenance program that was

3813
02:18:37,562 --> 02:18:39,630
still going to be Pacific

3814
02:18:39,630 --> 02:18:41,630
Surfliner service, just

3815
02:18:41,232 --> 02:18:43,340
subcontracted with Metrolink.

3816
02:18:43,340 --> 02:18:44,768
So while it was a metrolink

3817
02:18:44,768 --> 02:18:46,603
train, the tickets were going

3818
02:18:46,603 --> 02:18:47,972
to be through Amtrak. The

3819
02:18:47,972 --> 02:18:49,841
schedule was going to be within

3820
02:18:49,841 --> 02:18:51,643
the Amtrak schedule of service.

3821
02:18:51,643 --> 02:18:52,744
And the the passenger, for all

3822
02:18:52,744 --> 02:18:54,546
intents and purposes, will be

3823
02:18:54,546 --> 02:18:55,380
getting on another Pacific

3824
02:18:55,380 --> 02:18:58,820
Surfliner train as it relates

3825
02:18:58,820 --> 02:18:59,918
to the northbound commute. So

3826
02:18:59,918 --> 02:19:01,152
from a rider mystique

3827
02:19:01,152 --> 02:19:02,253
standpoint, helping to explain

3828
02:19:02,253 --> 02:19:03,621
that to the riders, it's

3829
02:19:03,621 --> 02:19:05,323
actually a bit simpler when

3830
02:19:05,323 --> 02:19:07,125
you're talking about having one

3831
02:19:07,125 --> 02:19:09,327
type of trainer, one railroad

3832
02:19:09,327 --> 02:19:11,462
operator on the corridor. Add

3833
02:19:11,462 --> 02:19:12,897
to that that the cost is

3834
02:19:12,897 --> 02:19:14,897
considerably lower. We

3835
02:19:15,900 --> 02:19:17,900
anticipate approximately 30 to

3836
02:19:18,970 --> 02:19:21,172
50% less costly to sb and ctc.

3837
02:19:21,172 --> 02:19:21,906
The the. It's not only more

3838
02:19:21,906 --> 02:19:23,875
convenient both to the rider,

3839
02:19:23,875 --> 02:19:25,108
but potentially more efficient

3840
02:19:25,108 --> 02:19:26,911
for sb, cag standpoint to be

3841
02:19:26,911 --> 02:19:29,213
able to proceed forward should

3842
02:19:29,213 --> 02:19:30,915
this pilot continue. And then

3843
02:19:30,915 --> 02:19:32,383
my only other question is I

3844
02:19:32,383 --> 02:19:33,384
maybe it's because I when we

3845
02:19:33,384 --> 02:19:35,190
looked at the Metrolink

3846
02:19:35,190 --> 02:19:36,221
agreement back in the day with

3847
02:19:36,221 --> 02:19:38,122
the afternoon one, I believe it

3848
02:19:38,122 --> 02:19:40,358
was we were leaving Goleta. I

3849
02:19:40,358 --> 02:19:42,360
had the notes here, so we would

3850
02:19:42,360 --> 02:19:44,760
have left Goleta around 1035

3851
02:19:44,895 --> 02:19:47,799
and gotten to Union Station

3852
02:19:47,799 --> 02:19:50,340
about 230. And now we have the

3853
02:19:50,340 --> 02:19:51,202
new plan of, oh, I'm sorry, we

3854
02:19:51,202 --> 02:19:53,103
left 1035 and would have gone

3855
02:19:53,103 --> 02:19:54,272
to the station at 130. And the

3856
02:19:54,272 --> 02:19:56,174
new afternoon plan is we leave

3857
02:19:56,174 --> 02:19:58,420
Goleta at 233, and we get to

3858
02:19:58,420 --> 02:19:59,143
Union Station at 5:50 P.M. The

3859
02:19:59,143 --> 02:20:00,440
morning route. It's only about

3860
02:20:00,440 --> 02:20:01,145
eight minutes. Inconsequential,

3861
02:20:01,145 --> 02:20:02,680
really, when you think about

3862
02:20:02,680 --> 02:20:05,483
that. I guess it feels like

3863
02:20:05,483 --> 02:20:06,583
this new plan. I don't know any

3864
02:20:06,583 --> 02:20:07,719
commuter who's like, boy, I've

3865
02:20:07,719 --> 02:20:10,521
been wanting to get to Union

3866
02:20:10,521 --> 02:20:11,956
Station at 5:50 P.M. And so I

3867
02:20:11,956 --> 02:20:14,459
just was trying to understand

3868
02:20:14,459 --> 02:20:15,593
when we say that this is a more

3869
02:20:15,593 --> 02:20:17,761
beneficial route to get from

3870
02:20:17,761 --> 02:20:19,970
San Luis Obispo to that, it

3871
02:20:19,970 --> 02:20:20,932
just I don't understand what's

3872
02:20:20,932 --> 02:20:22,400
the market question for me, I'm

3873
02:20:22,400 --> 02:20:24,269
confused by the market decision

3874
02:20:24,269 --> 02:20:25,636
of who's the customer who needs

3875
02:20:25,636 --> 02:20:26,737
to get out of Goleta at 230,

3876
02:20:26,737 --> 02:20:27,972
because it doesn't match with

3877
02:20:27,972 --> 02:20:29,641
our early train route. You're

3878
02:20:29,641 --> 02:20:30,808
not a worker who's coming into

3879
02:20:30,808 --> 02:20:32,644
Goleta at 8:00, likely needing

3880
02:20:32,644 --> 02:20:34,245
to leave at 230. So I just

3881
02:20:34,245 --> 02:20:35,113
wasn't sure. Again, what's the

3882
02:20:35,113 --> 02:20:36,648
anticipated benefit or who's

3883
02:20:36,648 --> 02:20:39,648
the target market we're trying

3884
02:20:39,684 --> 02:20:41,452
to capture here? Certainly. So

3885
02:20:41,452 --> 02:20:42,854
as as the board MAY recall, in

3886
02:20:42,854 --> 02:20:44,688
2008, the target market and has

3887
02:20:44,688 --> 02:20:45,757
always been the case to try and

3888
02:20:45,757 --> 02:20:46,958
alleviate the congestion headed

3889
02:20:46,958 --> 02:20:48,993
northbound during peak hour, as

3890
02:20:48,993 --> 02:20:50,161
well as the southbound during

3891
02:20:50,161 --> 02:20:52,630
the peak hour on the south

3892
02:20:52,630 --> 02:20:53,640
coast. So that would be in the

3893
02:20:53,640 --> 02:20:54,465
afternoon going southbound. And

3894
02:20:54,465 --> 02:20:56,601
in fact, this additional train

3895
02:20:56,601 --> 02:20:57,635
from San Luis Obispo will

3896
02:20:57,635 --> 02:20:59,437
operate through the Santa

3897
02:20:59,437 --> 02:21:01,272
Barbara area in that afternoon

3898
02:21:01,272 --> 02:21:03,410
period. So it does add some

3899
02:21:03,410 --> 02:21:04,474
capacity in the afternoons as

3900
02:21:04,474 --> 02:21:06,878
well, which we don't presently

3901
02:21:06,878 --> 02:21:07,779
have. The 10:30 A.M. Southbound

3902
02:21:07,779 --> 02:21:09,346
trip under the Metrolink

3903
02:21:09,346 --> 02:21:10,548
proposal was simply to get that

3904
02:21:10,548 --> 02:21:12,250
train back into revenue service

3905
02:21:12,250 --> 02:21:13,851
in the in the Metrolink service

3906
02:21:13,851 --> 02:21:15,486
area. Okay, so that original

3907
02:21:15,486 --> 02:21:16,754
one was not the idea of having

3908
02:21:16,754 --> 02:21:18,156
a the original plan was not

3909
02:21:18,156 --> 02:21:20,358
about the benefit being getting

3910
02:21:20,358 --> 02:21:22,260
someone down from mid-morning

3911
02:21:22,260 --> 02:21:23,394
to la and back. It's really we

3912
02:21:23,394 --> 02:21:25,263
were just trying to get the

3913
02:21:25,263 --> 02:21:26,431
train back down there. And this

3914
02:21:26,431 --> 02:21:27,565
proposal is just saying if we

3915
02:21:27,565 --> 02:21:29,234
need afternoon traffic, the

3916
02:21:29,234 --> 02:21:31,169
idea is that there might be

3917
02:21:31,169 --> 02:21:32,470
people who need to get down to

3918
02:21:32,470 --> 02:21:34,272
la in that 230 to 5:00 benefit.

3919
02:21:34,272 --> 02:21:36,174
So we weren't trying to do a

3920
02:21:36,174 --> 02:21:38,176
round trip. This is just send

3921
02:21:38,176 --> 02:21:39,310
it back down and call it a day.

3922
02:21:39,310 --> 02:21:40,478
Precisely. And in fact, to try

3923
02:21:40,478 --> 02:21:41,512
and get people to Ventura

3924
02:21:41,512 --> 02:21:43,381
County, specifically in the

3925
02:21:43,381 --> 02:21:45,381
afternoon at about 330 4:00.

3926
02:21:45,483 --> 02:21:46,618
But between the hours of and, I

3927
02:21:46,618 --> 02:21:48,453
can tell you that there's a

3928
02:21:48,453 --> 02:21:49,621
peak hour, much like with the

3929
02:21:49,621 --> 02:21:50,955
the ag community, that actually

3930
02:21:50,955 --> 02:21:52,656
precedes what is the typical

3931
02:21:52,656 --> 02:21:54,659
peak hour in the South coast.

3932
02:21:54,659 --> 02:21:55,659
So if you look on the roads at

3933
02:21:55,659 --> 02:21:56,761
any given afternoon from

3934
02:21:56,761 --> 02:21:58,662
between 230 and say, four,

3935
02:21:58,662 --> 02:21:59,831
there's quite a few cars on the

3936
02:21:59,831 --> 02:22:01,320
road headed south. So this this

3937
02:22:01,320 --> 02:22:02,634
is an additional trip that

3938
02:22:02,634 --> 02:22:04,602
should provide benefit there as

3939
02:22:04,602 --> 02:22:06,337
well. Thank you. Okay. Thank

3940
02:22:06,337 --> 02:22:07,572
you, Director Silva. Any other

3941
02:22:07,572 --> 02:22:09,972
questions? Any questions on

3942
02:22:12,143 --> 02:22:13,977
Santa Maria for the presenters?

3943
02:22:13,977 --> 02:22:16,180
Yes, sir. This is Julien.

3944
02:22:16,180 --> 02:22:17,549
Director Julien on the

3945
02:22:17,549 --> 02:22:20,510
schematic in terms of time and

3946
02:22:20,510 --> 02:22:22,200
and the expanded route to San

3947
02:22:22,200 --> 02:22:25,200
Luis Obispo, it mentions Goleta

3948
02:22:25,123 --> 02:22:26,324
to slow. What about Guadalupe?

3949
02:22:26,324 --> 02:22:27,992
The train will be stopping at

3950
02:22:27,992 --> 02:22:29,360
all the stations, including the

3951
02:22:29,360 --> 02:22:31,696
Lompoc station, as well as

3952
02:22:31,696 --> 02:22:34,696
Guadalupe. Yes. Okay, good. All

3953
02:22:35,199 --> 02:22:36,334
right. Thank you. Thank you,

3954
02:22:36,334 --> 02:22:38,734
Director Julien. Anything else

3955
02:22:39,137 --> 02:22:40,371
down there or up there? Okay.

3956
02:22:40,371 --> 02:22:42,500
Seeing none. MADAM Clerk, do we

3957
02:22:42,500 --> 02:22:43,208
have any public comment on this

3958
02:22:43,208 --> 02:22:45,430
item? Are there any members of

3959
02:22:45,430 --> 02:22:46,211
the public on the zoom webinar

3960
02:22:46,211 --> 02:22:47,879
who wish to speak? Would you

3961
02:22:47,879 --> 02:22:49,470
please use the raise hand

3962
02:22:49,470 --> 02:22:50,148
feature and I will call upon

3963
02:22:50,148 --> 02:22:51,883
you. There are no paper

3964
02:22:51,883 --> 02:22:52,984
requests to speak forms that

3965
02:22:52,984 --> 02:22:54,252
were received. However, we did

3966
02:22:54,252 --> 02:22:55,887
receive one public comment for

3967
02:22:55,887 --> 02:22:57,121
this item in advance, and the

3968
02:22:57,121 --> 02:22:58,690
comment was uploaded online and

3969
02:22:58,690 --> 02:23:00,240
provided to the board. And that

3970
02:23:00,240 --> 02:23:02,424
comment was received from

3971
02:23:02,926 --> 02:23:04,950
Claudia Show, and there are no

3972
02:23:04,950 --> 02:23:05,930
attendees on the line who wish

3973
02:23:05,930 --> 02:23:07,966
to speak. All right, back to

3974
02:23:07,966 --> 02:23:09,601
the board. This is to receive

3975
02:23:09,601 --> 02:23:11,536
the presentation and direction

3976
02:23:11,536 --> 02:23:12,804
to Staff Director Kern. What

3977
02:23:12,804 --> 02:23:14,906
kind of direction are you

3978
02:23:14,906 --> 02:23:16,407
looking for from us? I'm hoping

3979
02:23:16,407 --> 02:23:18,760
that you're supportive of this

3980
02:23:18,760 --> 02:23:19,811
new direction, and that your

3981
02:23:19,811 --> 02:23:20,945
direct us to bring a operating

3982
02:23:20,945 --> 02:23:23,447
agreement back to the board,

3983
02:23:23,447 --> 02:23:25,283
hopefully in FEBRUARY. Okay. So

3984
02:23:25,283 --> 02:23:27,485
I'm going to ask for a motion

3985
02:23:27,485 --> 02:23:28,887
to receive the presentation and

3986
02:23:28,887 --> 02:23:32,487
request staff to bring back an

3987
02:23:33,224 --> 02:23:35,460
operating agreement in FEBRUARY.

3988
02:23:35,460 --> 02:23:37,195
I'd like to make that motion.

3989
02:23:37,195 --> 02:23:39,130
Second. Okay. Motion from Brody

3990
02:23:39,130 --> 02:23:40,465
and a second from Hartman. Also

3991
02:23:40,465 --> 02:23:41,332
make a comment. Yeah,

3992
02:23:41,332 --> 02:23:43,334
absolutely. And so any further

3993
02:23:43,334 --> 02:23:44,802
comment on the motion, director

3994
02:23:44,802 --> 02:23:47,672
Brody? Thank you. I just want

3995
02:23:47,672 --> 02:23:49,807
to acknowledge all the work

3996
02:23:49,807 --> 02:23:54,700
that was put into this by the

3997
02:23:54,946 --> 02:23:56,314
Scag board. Ctc. They're

3998
02:23:56,314 --> 02:23:59,314
working on the agreement with

3999
02:23:59,517 --> 02:24:00,919
them. And then how excited we

4000
02:24:00,919 --> 02:24:03,530
were that we thought it would

4001
02:24:03,530 --> 02:24:06,790
work out in OCTOBER. And I know

4002
02:24:06,790 --> 02:24:08,159
that there was there was

4003
02:24:08,159 --> 02:24:09,627
excitement from the community

4004
02:24:09,627 --> 02:24:12,597
as well, thinking that it was

4005
02:24:12,597 --> 02:24:15,399
coming back. So it was a great

4006
02:24:15,399 --> 02:24:17,869
pivot, as you put it. In fact,

4007
02:24:17,869 --> 02:24:20,371
an alternative way around this,

4008
02:24:20,371 --> 02:24:23,274
thing, situations changed and I

4009
02:24:23,274 --> 02:24:24,876
look forward to having this

4010
02:24:24,876 --> 02:24:27,278
happen sooner than later, as

4011
02:24:27,278 --> 02:24:28,980
soon as we can. Because, you

4012
02:24:28,980 --> 02:24:31,249
know, we have a train station

4013
02:24:31,249 --> 02:24:32,984
and Goleta now almost ready to

4014
02:24:32,984 --> 02:24:34,419
go. So we want those trains

4015
02:24:34,419 --> 02:24:35,586
rolling through. Thank you.

4016
02:24:35,586 --> 02:24:36,888
Thank you, Director Perotti,

4017
02:24:36,888 --> 02:24:39,123
any other comments on the

4018
02:24:39,123 --> 02:24:40,424
motion? Seeing none. MADAM

4019
02:24:40,424 --> 02:24:43,161
Clerk, will you please call the

4020
02:24:43,161 --> 02:24:45,561
roll director. Rousse. Director.

4021
02:24:46,364 --> 02:24:48,764
Perotti. Director. Patino. Hi.

4022
02:24:48,833 --> 02:24:51,233
Director. Mosby. By director.

4023
02:24:51,369 --> 02:24:53,369
Lee. Director. Lavagnino.

4024
02:24:54,205 --> 02:24:56,205
Director. Julian. Director.

4025
02:24:56,841 --> 02:24:58,841
Hartman. Director. Clerk.

4026
02:24:58,977 --> 02:25:00,977
Director. Capps. Director.

4027
02:25:01,446 --> 02:25:03,348
Brown. Vice chair. Silva and

4028
02:25:03,348 --> 02:25:05,449
chair. Nelson. Aye. Motion

4029
02:25:05,449 --> 02:25:06,583
passes unanimously. All right.

4030
02:25:06,583 --> 02:25:07,886
Let's keep moving this thing

4031
02:25:07,886 --> 02:25:09,200
along. And now we'll move to

4032
02:25:09,200 --> 02:25:11,200
Caltrans. Caltrans director

4033
02:25:11,189 --> 02:25:13,589
report from Veronica Lazara,

4034
02:25:14,791 --> 02:25:16,594
Caltrans branch chief. Oh,

4035
02:25:16,594 --> 02:25:18,730
sorry, did I skip you,

4036
02:25:18,730 --> 02:25:20,865
executive director, just real

4037
02:25:20,865 --> 02:25:22,767
quick. Absolutely. Yeah. It's

4038
02:25:22,767 --> 02:25:24,402
all good. It's one item I would

4039
02:25:24,402 --> 02:25:25,570
like to announce. I would like

4040
02:25:25,570 --> 02:25:27,970
to introduce our newest

4041
02:25:28,406 --> 02:25:30,608
employee, Naomi Compton. She

4042
02:25:30,608 --> 02:25:31,608
joined the agency as an account

4043
02:25:31,608 --> 02:25:33,177
technician with experience in

4044
02:25:33,177 --> 02:25:35,460
the public sector finance. And

4045
02:25:35,460 --> 02:25:38,516
she's back here in the back

4046
02:25:38,516 --> 02:25:40,840
corner. She will help us with

4047
02:25:40,840 --> 02:25:41,419
finance, procurement and

4048
02:25:41,419 --> 02:25:42,554
administrative support. She's

4049
02:25:42,554 --> 02:25:43,721
originally from the Houston

4050
02:25:43,721 --> 02:25:44,989
area and holds a master's

4051
02:25:44,989 --> 02:25:45,723
degree in finance and

4052
02:25:45,723 --> 02:25:47,859
previously worked for the

4053
02:25:47,859 --> 02:25:48,960
University of Houston in

4054
02:25:48,960 --> 02:25:50,428
supporting their accounts

4055
02:25:50,428 --> 02:25:52,297
payable accounting and payroll

4056
02:25:52,297 --> 02:25:54,365
and tax information. She said

4057
02:25:54,365 --> 02:25:56,167
she was drawn to sbf by its

4058
02:25:56,167 --> 02:25:57,435
focus on public service and the

4059
02:25:57,435 --> 02:25:58,636
opportunity to support projects

4060
02:25:58,636 --> 02:26:00,438
that improve communities, so

4061
02:26:00,438 --> 02:26:02,273
please join me in welcoming

4062
02:26:02,273 --> 02:26:04,409
Naomi to the team. So thank you.

4063
02:26:04,409 --> 02:26:06,578
And that concludes my report.

4064
02:26:06,578 --> 02:26:08,379
Welcome, Naomi. As long as

4065
02:26:08,379 --> 02:26:11,979
you're not an Astros fan okay.

4066
02:26:12,650 --> 02:26:15,253
Moving along to Caltrans now,

4067
02:26:15,253 --> 02:26:16,988
directors and chair Nelson

4068
02:26:16,988 --> 02:26:18,456
again. Veronica. Veronica, on

4069
02:26:18,456 --> 02:26:20,856
behalf of District Director

4070
02:26:21,692 --> 02:26:23,461
Scott Eads, I have a couple of

4071
02:26:23,461 --> 02:26:25,461
announcements this afternoon.

4072
02:26:26,764 --> 02:26:28,299
First, starting with the some

4073
02:26:28,299 --> 02:26:31,690
exciting news to start off the

4074
02:26:31,690 --> 02:26:32,837
new year. Really right. Hot off

4075
02:26:32,837 --> 02:26:34,672
the press. Wanted happy to

4076
02:26:34,672 --> 02:26:37,720
announce that Highway one

4077
02:26:37,542 --> 02:26:39,310
through Big Sur has reopened.

4078
02:26:39,310 --> 02:26:41,478
Actually, it opened yesterday.

4079
02:26:41,478 --> 02:26:43,347
That is about three months

4080
02:26:43,347 --> 02:26:46,217
ahead of schedule. We wanted to

4081
02:26:46,217 --> 02:26:47,986
extend an appreciation to local

4082
02:26:47,986 --> 02:26:48,786
business owners, residents and

4083
02:26:48,786 --> 02:26:51,589
visitors, as well as those

4084
02:26:51,589 --> 02:26:52,991
other agencies who were

4085
02:26:52,991 --> 02:26:55,126
responsible and involved in the

4086
02:26:55,126 --> 02:26:56,995
success of that reopening.

4087
02:26:56,995 --> 02:26:58,730
Second, Caltrans will host an

4088
02:26:58,730 --> 02:27:01,130
important public meeting next

4089
02:27:02,433 --> 02:27:04,369
week on JANUARY 21st from 530

4090
02:27:04,369 --> 02:27:06,638
to 7 P.M. At the Guadalupe City

4091
02:27:06,638 --> 02:27:09,638
Hall. This meeting is in

4092
02:27:10,240 --> 02:27:12,777
relation to the Waterloo area

4093
02:27:12,777 --> 02:27:14,579
projects. My team and I walk

4094
02:27:14,579 --> 02:27:16,140
through the city of Guadalupe

4095
02:27:16,140 --> 02:27:17,782
last week and provided some

4096
02:27:17,782 --> 02:27:19,751
information to the public, so

4097
02:27:19,751 --> 02:27:21,753
it was nice to hear how excited

4098
02:27:21,753 --> 02:27:23,955
the community is about these

4099
02:27:23,955 --> 02:27:25,390
future investments in the area.

4100
02:27:25,390 --> 02:27:26,758
And that concludes my report.

4101
02:27:26,758 --> 02:27:28,426
Happy to take any questions

4102
02:27:28,426 --> 02:27:30,395
that the board MAY have. Thank

4103
02:27:30,395 --> 02:27:33,395
you. Any questions for MISS

4104
02:27:34,465 --> 02:27:36,701
Lizama from Caltrans. Or for

4105
02:27:36,701 --> 02:27:38,690
Director Kern, based on the

4106
02:27:38,690 --> 02:27:38,903
Executive Director's report,

4107
02:27:38,903 --> 02:27:41,903
anything in Santa Maria either

4108
02:27:42,473 --> 02:27:43,808
for either party? Nothing here.

4109
02:27:43,808 --> 02:27:45,276
Okay. Great. Thank you. So

4110
02:27:45,276 --> 02:27:47,812
we'll go ahead and move on to

4111
02:27:47,812 --> 02:27:49,614
committee meetings. First one

4112
02:27:49,614 --> 02:27:51,382
up is myself and Caverns.

4113
02:27:51,382 --> 02:27:52,816
Caverns is plugging along.

4114
02:27:52,816 --> 02:27:53,885
We're looks like we're gonna

4115
02:27:53,885 --> 02:27:55,720
have some leadership changes on

4116
02:27:55,720 --> 02:27:57,121
executive director there who

4117
02:27:57,121 --> 02:27:58,223
just actually resigned

4118
02:27:58,223 --> 02:28:00,358
yesterday. So we've got some

4119
02:28:00,358 --> 02:28:03,958
changes ahead of us, but we're

4120
02:28:04,295 --> 02:28:05,830
confident that we're putting a.

4121
02:28:05,830 --> 02:28:07,599
Pieces in place to move the

4122
02:28:07,599 --> 02:28:08,700
organization forward. You know,

4123
02:28:08,700 --> 02:28:10,635
people know that there was a

4124
02:28:10,635 --> 02:28:11,803
prop for allocation to caravans,

4125
02:28:11,803 --> 02:28:12,837
and that's going to be an

4126
02:28:12,837 --> 02:28:14,380
important part of moving

4127
02:28:14,380 --> 02:28:15,573
caravans into the future. And

4128
02:28:15,573 --> 02:28:16,908
so we're we're excited about

4129
02:28:16,908 --> 02:28:18,760
those opportunities as well.

4130
02:28:18,760 --> 02:28:20,144
Expanding service, whether it's

4131
02:28:20,144 --> 02:28:21,245
on the 166 or anywhere else

4132
02:28:21,245 --> 02:28:22,881
throughout the state of

4133
02:28:22,881 --> 02:28:25,216
California, we are navigating

4134
02:28:25,216 --> 02:28:27,180
some of the changes in the

4135
02:28:27,180 --> 02:28:29,153
landscape around field work and

4136
02:28:29,153 --> 02:28:31,220
farm labor, and most of our

4137
02:28:31,220 --> 02:28:32,550
users are actually farm labor

4138
02:28:32,550 --> 02:28:33,570
contractors and h-2a workers

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throughout the state of

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California. And so those

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changing programs are going to

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impact caravans over the next

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couple of years. So we're

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trying to be attentive and and

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look over those things as they

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proceed through. So that's my

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report on caravans as far as

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Lausanne director Lee, I think

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you had your report. I think

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the report. Okay. And now one

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minute reports, any brief

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announcements from any of my

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colleagues not seeing any down

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here in Santa Barbara, any

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announcements in the Santa

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Maria board hearing room? None

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here. Thank you. Thank you,

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Director Patino. Okay, we'll go

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ahead and adjourn today's

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meeting. The next meeting will

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