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Okay, it's 407, and we'd like to call this regularly scheduled, Santa Clara City Council work meeting to order. I am mayor wait and with this we have Councilman Kaplan, Councilman Burton and Councilwoman Hinton. We will excuse Councilman Hendrickson. He's out leading a tour for economic development in our city. He'll be back for our council meeting and then Councilman Pond is traveling with his family. So we'll jump right into our working agenda. Item A1 of our general business is introduction of the new Cana.

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unit presented by our police chief, Sharon Studdley. Come on up.

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Maybe introduce

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anybody else that's with you. It'd be good. Anybody else? Well, I actually wanted to

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deviate slightly from this. No raised eyebrows from Brock. So we have Officer

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Bartriff. He obviously came to us from the city of Washington and he came with

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K9 for us, so we're excited to have him.

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He's our only explosives detection dog in Washington County.

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And so with that, Lance has a pedigree.

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He'd love to tell you all about force accomplishments.

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That's the force.

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My name's Lance Bartreff.

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I've been in law enforcement for 16 years now.

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Been with the bomb squad for 10 of those years.

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We're able to get forest to be a bomb dog.

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He also does guns, so if we have cases

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is what we need to find guns, stuff like that,

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he's very helpful in tracking that stuff down.

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So of course it been deployed three times

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to Afghanistan and once to Jordan,

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so he's done a lot of work.

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And we're excited to be here.

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Can I see him?

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Yeah, council, any questions?

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Well, yeah, we want to say hi to everybody.

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And he's one of the police dogs that you're more

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than welcome to pet.

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They're asking everybody that for us

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the way. Please don't try to pet the other one. Please, please, please. But I also wanted

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to highlight mayor that we, with a new budget year, we allocated a position for investigations

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and I asked Detective Katie with what would come here so that she could, she could be seen

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so you would know who your investigators are with the department. But I don't think she

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wants to talk so. Okay, well, welcome.

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She'd love to say hi. I'll pay for that later.

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I'm Katie Wyplow. I've been with the department since April of 2025. I have been

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in investigations for about a month. So I'm excited to be here. Yeah, awesome. We're

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excited to have her and bring a different perspective to our investigations unit. So

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Okay, very good. Thank you very much and thanks for the introductions.

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Very good. When we move on to our next discussion item which is regarding a wildland urban interface,

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a city map presented by Chief Cousier.

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After the Mayor and Council, as you recall, we had a discussion about wildland urban interface.

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The acronym is Louis and as we go through this discussion, just understand that

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That's kind of the definition and the reason for this highly talked about area is it's where

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undeveloped property or wild land property interfaces with developments.

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And so understanding that there's a risk involved there, going to do something to get this

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map up there,

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you're saying they need to drag it over, huh?

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There we go.

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Just understanding a couple things first before we get real deep because I know that a couple

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of you probably haven't been through in depth discussion on really.

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So some large fires across the nation including California and then obviously including Utah

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as well.

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There have been a large, some large lost property and then lies as well and so what's what's

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consequently what's happened is you have insurance companies that are dropping coverage on

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homes and property and then

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And the other thing we've seen is these huge increases in the cost of insurance, fire insurance. So, the state's insurance division has come up with the statewide wooly map. And obviously that map has affected every city, including Santa Clara.

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And what the state's hoping to do is we're hoping to have these insurance companies

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of justification for large increases or dropping coverage.

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So, so with that, the cities had been tasked with making a map.

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We adopted, we already adopted the state map.

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We realized that it was probably not what was in the best

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interest of the city of Santa Clara and a couple of ways.

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One is we felt like there was areas that were in the map that

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shouldn't have been in the map and then we realized there was

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areas that were left out that we should on a city level make

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make sure that we build the homes to a certain standard to prevent, to hopefully prevent damage

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if there were a fire in some of our areas that do have a lot of risks.

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So I mean, the obvious one is Santa Clara River, lots of growth down there.

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We don't have the opportunity to go through and mitigate that risk inside the river, but

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we do have the ability in our subdivisions, our single family, lots to do that.

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The question you're going to ask is, okay, so now as an insurance company going to come

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look at our map and decide, oh, you put this in a high risk area, the clerk needs the

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answer to that as no, they cannot come use our map to justify an increase for dropping

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somebody. They're going to go off the state map. But I do believe, and it's common practice

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to better identify these areas in each city, adopt the map. We know the map is going to change

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from year to year or maybe maybe not every year but from time to time the maps will change and so what

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this representation the red area that represents is an area that we feel like is a higher risk the

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interface area is a higher risk and so the homes that would be built in there whether it's a new subdivision

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or a home that's on an open lot not not built on yet would just be built to a construction standard

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that includes fire-rated assemblies that are roof assemblies and exterior walls.

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I know that's kind of a lot to try and absorb, but that's really what these maps,

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the city map would represent. As you recall, there were a couple of areas in the state map.

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One was the area that you'll see, is

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that my phone?

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smarter than I am, apparently. I don't want to call anybody.

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So the water tank and the

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buffer zone around that was identified as an area of hazard.

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There are some things up

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there that we'd like to not burn. I know there's like a power line is in the area. Obviously

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that power line itself wasn't identified but the tank was. Also a big area, kind of on

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on the north end of our city that is in the black desert

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was in there as well.

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And so we have elected to pull that out

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because we don't like there's a lot of risk there

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with the lava in the small amount of natural vegetation.

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So let's kind of get into the Santa Clara River area

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and I want to get some some feedback on on what the council would like to see

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there so what you see here is an outline of the river and an eighth of a mile

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buffer on each side so put that in feet that's about 660 feet either side of

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the river that's a common amount of space I see that happening with a lot of

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cities they decided eighth mile buffer is the right number we don't have to

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8th mile, we could get onto a 16th of a mile, which is 330 feet either side of the river.

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Keep in mind, there's a lot of homes that are built in this area already, there's no

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requirement of those homeowners to do anything just to recognize that they're in higher risk.

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And hopefully what the end result is, is the residents who live in those structures would harden

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their property on their own.

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And when we talk about hardening, we're talking about removing dead debris, removing fuels

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that could burn, being smart with plants, they choose to plant in those areas, and creating

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space between the home and anything that could burn on the property.

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So, that's what when we talk about hardening, that's what we're talking about.

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So, look

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at my notes here. So, with the state, I told you that we had provided feedback that we're pulling some areas away. Still, as of today, those areas have not been pulled out, but you'll also notice that we have not identified those on this map, because we don't feel like there's a huge risk there.

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So, let's talk about areas that are not on here that we may look to add. So, we look at our washes.

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So, to a con wash, the area of the arboretum, let me zoom in on that just a little bit.

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Is this map on the website, the GIS maps?

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It is on our website, yes.

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So, the area of the arboretum, so historically the fire department has tried to do some

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mitigation on a regular basis, it's been about every two to three years in my understanding.

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and we'll actually burn off the cat tails of things that grow right just above

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little league drive down through past the ball fields and it's been suggested

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that we do that on a regular on an annual basis rather than every other year

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every third year it's been beneficial it's taking a lot of that dead and dying to

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debris out of there. If we go north into this wash area, I think it's important to understand

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that there is going to be the lake where it's already started for a conservation easement.

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This can encompass a good share of the lava and even over and through the wash area. And

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so I don't know that we look to add this. I don't foresee anything being developed in there.

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and so I don't know that we have this to the map.

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However, we do have an area as we go up to Ocon Wash,

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right through here, they're going to develop that.

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And quite honestly, I don't see a lot of natural vegetation

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currently growing there.

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And I think as I develop that area,

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I believe that we're going to work hand in hand with them

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to mitigate any any issues that we might find on the property.

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As we go up to a con wash, to a con wash comes up over this way, the H.

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husband through their last year and taken most of the the native reads and

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things out of there that could burn easily in that area today is in pretty good

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shape.

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This wash that we think is a lava flow wash but we're not sure what's

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is an area that does have quite a bit of overgrowth in it currently, and we do have fires there occasionally.

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In fact, we had one there, and I think it was in May, they burned a good share of it off.

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So it's another area we might consider, including in here, the only thing that kind of leads me away from this

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is that you have a school on the north side and a park on the south side.

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So, we're not going to build in there, but if you feel like it would be wise to add those

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areas in the well done urban interface map, we can certainly do it.

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Another area, as we go to the west,

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another area is going to, is graveyard wash that's going

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to be in reservoir, and I know that the city is potentially looking to annex some of this

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property it's possible I guess and maybe at that point in time we come back

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revisit this and update the map but I don't I don't know that it makes sense to

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add anything in there that's the reservoir itself obviously is water and then

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we'd only be worried about anything that might be built around the area which I'm

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uncertain of what that could look like right now.

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Moving just a little bit

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south and this yellow line represents the city boundaries but I don't think it's

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It's been updated because you've got big rock sub-evisions to be built in this

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Louis area as well as the rest of their property.

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So it's going to sit right here and that is, and it's important to understand and recognize

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especially tonight as we go through that that is in the Wildland Urban Interface zone and

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we don't anticipate changing that.

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That will remain inside that zone.

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only other area that I'm back and forth on is our heel side right to the north of Santa

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Clara Drive that does have some areas, have some natural vegetation overgrowth right there as well.

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So fire, we're going to start out the base of that hill. It's going to be to the top by the time we even arrive on scene. So again, those are areas of our city that have been developed homes already there. We don't just pay a lot of, I mean, obviously that the subdivisions are in place. So there might be a home here and there that gets build on a big lot, but not a lot of potential for growth right through there. And you'll see that it does because of that eighth mile buffer. It does encompass a little bit of that.

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So I guess I want to answer any questions you have, and then I want to open it for discussion on just a few of the items we've talked about.

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So the red is not currently in our woolly map, or it is currently in our woolly map.

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So the current woolly map, it ends in this area just inside the city limits.

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That's the state's woolly map.

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And as it goes west and into Ivan's, it's a lot.

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Ivan's is heavily affected by the current state and

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will his own map.

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And this is for our city, will we map?

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Does not do anything to affect the state, will we map?

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We don't even share the information with the state.

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This is just on a city level.

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And so it would just be our building inspector or

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whatever who would determine what, you know, if you've met the standard of.

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That is correct.

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roof and walls. Yeah, and again, maybe I can elaborate a little bit on that. So when you talk about

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exterior walls and the roof of the structure, there's a material that you would use to

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sheet the walls and the roof that creates that one hour. It's kind of like a one hour firewall

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that you might see in different settings, but there isn't added cost to that. It's not extreme.

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It's been projected that most homes would be in that probably an additional $20,000 to $30,000

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a penny on the size of the home.

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I don't, that's not a hard cost, but that's kind of an estimate that a lot of the builders

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have felt comfortable in estimating.

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And then we don't use these any other time, except for new development, or didn't we use

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these for fireworks?

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So there's a fireworks map that's different than this.

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Obviously there's some similarities for sure with the fireworks map.

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No, this will not replace the fireworks map.

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So it only affects new development.

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For instance, the hill across the street.

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I can see why you say we wouldn't put that there.

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Because it only affects new developments.

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Is that right?

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New development or an existing developed property that has an unbuilt home.

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Oh, and like said, let's say that they can still in a subdivision, or if you were

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doing an ADU or something without a doubt.

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ADU, correct.

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Okay.

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But there is no requirement from an existing homeowner to go in and do any work at all.

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Again, this is, as you know, with the state map, there is going to be an annual assessment.

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The properties are in the state's map, the properties in our map will not be subject

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to the same inspection.

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Okay.

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Sorry, so there's an annual assessment or inspection from the state if you're in the

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state map.

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That's correct.

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The state map does, I'm just looking at my own home right now in the hills, the entire

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hills is in there.

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The state map it's not, like a portion of the hills is.

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I should have brought the state map with me, I could pull it up, but my understanding, unless

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It's updated since last time I looked, my understanding is it includes some of this area, but not all of it.

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It does come into the hills, somewhat.

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And I did mention earlier that we've submitted changes to the county who's going to submit a county map to the state with changes we felt were pertinent to our city.

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And then they may be updating it.

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They will be, I don't have a timeline, they haven't even suggested a timeline to us yet.

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did it include all this that we're looking at the red not all of it okay as it

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goes west outside of our city some of that's in there some of it is it's

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actually larger than what in what you're seeing okay and as I mentioned

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earlier as you go into islands it's it's all along highway 91 and then of

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course through can to and it kind of goes literally around their city one of the

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with the state map as they take into historical fire data as one of their factors when they

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made the map.

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So, you're going to have a-

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The larger fires in an area that takes the fire department longer to respond to, and as well as vegetation that can burn. So, we've had some larger fires, like on the reservation, and near the city of Ivan's in the past. So, it's been, that's been one of the factors. And that's the reason why you see. Like, Ivan's been pretty hard with it. If, if you like, I have the state map, we can show if you like.

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to see that council. Sure.

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State map right here. Yeah. And so you'll notice through the

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block desert development area we've excluded that or we've suggested that the state excludes

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it and we don't intend on putting that in our city map.

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And so again the impact of the effect

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of being in the area it's with the state if you're in the state area they're going to do an annual

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assessment. When you say the assessment you're not talking about a financial assessment you're talking

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about a just an inspection.

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It'll be a risk assessment, a wild land or an interface risk assessment.

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Yeah, okay, and then that's the only impact for the city.

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If it's something's going to be building a house or building something on their property

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and it's in the zone, then they'll be required to do the roof and the exterior with this.

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And it's, you know, from the building perspective, they call it fire rated assemblies.

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so and it's clearly defined as X2 walls in a roof. So just trying to create a space of time that a

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fire could be you know impinging on the side of your house and that it would give us time to where it

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wouldn't catch the house on the fire as quickly. And there's a lot more to that. I mean you you know

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when you stuck a wall you come down on the bottom of the wall has a piece of J metal on it right and

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And so if you have debris up against your house and that starts on fire and burns that's going to get behind that assembly.

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So that's where we talk about hardening your home.

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You get the combustible materials away from your house to where you have a little more assurance that your house won't catch on fire.

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So this is a new code for the roof that buildings being built now, that's kind of a requirement.

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You're talking about the new code, so the way we code is requiring it and it is new.

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The code itself isn't new, but it wasn't required to be adopted until last year.

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So we've adopted it last year because we need to stay compliant with State of Utah.

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So if there was a fire in our city and we use state resources, we're responsible financially

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to pay for that if you're not compliant.

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okay what's it called again? What? You're talking about woolly? Yeah wildland urban

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interface. It's where wildland and your city meet. Okay.

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So do you like an 8th

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mile buffer would you prefer something smaller? This is 8th mile seem reasonable.

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It's hard to picture what the difference is. I know. I don't know. So your property most

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properties in our 110 zone have a hundred foot frontage so you know you're

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looking at between if if a road were to go into a zone like into like perpendicular

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to the river yeah I would you want it to be three houses or do you want to be six

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in a in a traditional R 110 zone now if you look at it properties south of the

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the river, they're not the traditional 100 feet of frontage.

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Some of those lots are square, some of them are not.

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Council, Annie, particular ideas,

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or do you wanna see what it would look like

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with a smaller distance?

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Yeah, can you zoom in?

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I couldn't find it online.

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Can you zoom in on ours?

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Like on Benelli Drive along the river?

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Something that's a good one to look at.

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And going up Vernon Street or

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But he wants to be on our just curious high-priced map goes under the current one

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I guess if you could switch over to the other yeah, the city map

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All right, you want me to zoom in a little more is that enough if you could zoom in a little more my eyes

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Sometimes when you zoom in it zooms a lot so here's Benelli and then Vernon

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Is it right there? So it's going to encompass the space from the river to the road and then probably two more homes.

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Which in this case, where that is, it's roughly one home. Yeah, you're roughly one home. It's roughly one. It's on a large lot. So yeah, it's, yeah, it was like two half acre lots combined. So it's roughly one one home. Looks like. And so what our decision ends up affecting is new builds.

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if they're in that zone, whether they'll be required to have the fire, whatever you say, fire rateed assemblies, that's all it's going to affect as far as people building a home.

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That's correct.

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Okay, and if you look at there on Manelli trail there there's I think two or three lots there between

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Vernon Street and it's Gowon Road that are on the built that no homes are on that so they would

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They would be required to meet the code and they're currently required because this went into effect a year ago

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So they're currently not required because the map that the whole Louis code went into effect a year ago, but the map itself we used

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up until currently has been the state map, which did not include the Santa Clara River.

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And I don't think anybody will argue that there's a risk, there's a fire risk inside

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the river and adjacent to the river.

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To those homeowners, I mean, I guess you're not the insurance expert, do they typically

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get a break on their homeowners insurance if they have the fire-rated assemblies?

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So what will happen, so I think this is more speaking to the inspections or the assessments.

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So every home that's in the state's wooly map that gets inspected, you're going to

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fall into one of three categories from extreme risk to the lower end of high risk.

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So depending on what category your home is in, not this type of is, not your neighbor's

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but your home will have could have or probably will have an effect on your fire insurance.

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The category. But if I build my home and I have a fire-rated roof and fire-rated walls,

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does that? Yeah, you'll fit in the lowest category. Then I go into the lowest category rather than a higher

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category. Yeah. Okay. Yes.

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And is your recommendation the eighth of a mile or what's your recommendation?

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I was laying in toward 16th of a mile. We did 8th of a mile just to show you what what it looks like

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But I think even if we go to a 16th, I don't know that it changes anything on Benali your own farm road

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I think it's still going to include the front part of those properties, which would put them in the zone

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I think those are the ones that are undeveloped right now, right? Or unbuilt is those two cornerways. I think so

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I think when you look at the overall cost of a building to build a home in a

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development like that. I'm not trying to downplay this at all, but those are huge

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homes and I don't think it's going to discourage somebody from wanting to

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build on a home. And it only hardens their house anyway. So. So sorry, you may have

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answered this already. Are there landscape requirements within this as well?

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There's landscape suggestions, and then if you're in the state woody map, then the more

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you do to harden your home, the better your overall score is going to be, so there is

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a list in the woody code of suggested plants, and they're all fire-wise type plants, things

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that won't burn easily.

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That's kind of the challenge we find with some of our rivers is, you'd think when things

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are green, they don't want to burn, but it's exact opposite. Some of our, some of our

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things that are in the rivers actually burn better when it's, when they're, when they're

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in the middle of the summer. Yeah.

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Well, if you're looking for direction for me, I think based

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on your recommendation, I'm good with the one-sixteenth. Okay. That's right, ladies as well.

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The one-sixteenth. Because this is also used to just kind of help somebody if they're looking

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moving here and buying a home, like you just check the map and be like oh I'm

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feeling more careful with my landscaping or isn't used for that as well right?

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That's correct yeah and that's how I look at it as a resource to members of our

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community yeah. Okay any other feedback or any other questions you have for

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Council.

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Any recommendation on the to a conwashed? We leave it out and you guys want it in. I think since there's not going to be any building there, it makes sense to leave it out. I mean, any new homes built there. I agree. Yeah. Yeah. So there is a subdivision going in that would that that might benefit from just knowing that they're in the zone and others that could follow.

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Rock, I might need your help. Is it right here in this?

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I think it's right in this corner, but that one, that's where solace.

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Yeah, so I think that wash is running right through their property.

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It has been, it has been grubbed out by the H crew and right now it's in really good shape

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and it doesn't make any sense to include it today.

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But if it doesn't, if we don't do regular maintenance on all of our washes

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that will end up growing back.

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So maybe that one makes sense then to keep in?

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maybe I don't know what our plan is to ensure that we don't have a bunch of

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overgrowth. It's also a place that tends to collect trash. You know when blows it

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ends up in the bottom and cardboard and papers and different things. So in

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other solos town homes the wash intersects in the I guess phases phase one that's

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on the west side of the wash is, those are already being built, they're probably getting

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relatively close to completion. The ones on the east side, I don't believe they've

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started that construction yet, but the west side is, they'll probably be close to CEO

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in the next month or two, I would guess.

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So then you really are talking about just the

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be signed.

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Gotcha.

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Yeah, council, do you have a particular view on that area?

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It's not very familiar with the washer right there.

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That's current that's in the state one right now?

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No, that's not. That's not okay. We'd be recommending it. Yeah, that's more local, local intel.

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Local. If it's just for informational purposes, then maybe it's a good idea because I don't think we

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can guarantee that we're going to be maintaining it the same way. Correct.

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I'm not sure it makes a difference for this development.

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They're moving forward already.

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It's not defined today in our map.

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I don't know that we have any teeth to make it happen,

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but I don't think it hurts to identify it

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if you'd like it to be identified in the map.

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I'm good with that.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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All right, any further questions or comments?

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I just have a question on the hills,

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the entire hills and the entire

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like all the farms and stuff right there are all included in our map and I'm

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just wondering what accounts for that and not just so you look at the fields

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themselves and they probably won't burn but you get the river that goes kind of

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you know halfway like it almost encompasses the whole field and so you take

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that eighth of a mile and you buffer it out and that's what you end up with the

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hills itself has has quite a bit it's not very thick and it's not very

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tall but there's a lot of natural vegetation out there. The other thing you have to understand

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recognize that as the city grows and as these areas get grubbed and developed the maps going to change

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and it will see these areas get smaller. As we go south you're going to see the risk less and less

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or the map is going to move away you know further and further away. The fire is going to burn up

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I feel a lot faster than it comes down here.

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So risk is much greater on the top side of the hill

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and is at the bottom.

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And I think it's important to recognize

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to this map is a work in progress.

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I don't, I hope you don't feel like what I'm presenting today

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is a finished product, it's far from it.

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What's the timeline for?

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I can have it.

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We can have it done in a week or two

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with your recommendation.

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and it's not hard, it's not hard for him to update, it's just getting on the list and prioritized and completed.

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We will be coming back to adopt the map, you know, as a city map.

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But I'd want to see how that, making it a 16th amount, how that would affect the hills,

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because it's probably going to be a lot different, I'm guessing.

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that it is tricky with the river skulls.

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I think there's one unbuilt law along the river in the hills. I guess there's a couple right there on the edge. There's one kind of in the middle that's unbuilt that I'm curious if that falls in. Now that I'm looking at this little more detail, I think this is further than we had asked for. I think what we wanted was this line to come closer to the line that is dark right through there. Gotcha.

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Yeah, I've overlooked that. I apologize.

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Okay. Yeah, so that'd be my only question. And then I think the one 16th instead of the one 8th. Yeah, and that wash up in solace, I'm in different personally, our big, our big fires, where there's big loss, you know, happens in certain conditions. So on Friday, last week, Friday, Washington City had a fire. It's

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started between the home and the garage.

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People who on the home were gone at the time.

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It burned long enough to get both the home and the garage on fire.

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It wasn't really windy that day, but it was just windy enough to where it picked up

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members about two blocks away.

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It started another house on fire and burned another garage down to the ground.

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So when we come to you with these concerns, that's what we're trying to avoid,

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is we're trying to avoid fire spread.

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so whether it's coming from the wildland itself into a home or whether it's

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going from home to home that's what we want to avoid so by making these zones

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smaller it does increase our risk but I think it's I think it's minimal I'm

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perfectly fine with 16th of a mile

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okay sounds great all right thank you chief

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all

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right I'll move on to our next item which is discussion regarding resident

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and communication strategies presented by LANS.

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Good evening, Marin Council.

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I kind of wanted to discussion around how we reach out

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to residents when there are emergencies,

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power outages, water, and whatnot.

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Right now, obviously, we have our YAPIFI,

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which since text messages out, and we have Facebook.

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Those are our two primary mechanisms for reaching out,

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which both have pros and cons.

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Text are great because they're immediate.

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Everybody kind of sees them,

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assuming your data is up to date.

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but when we lead into later hours, I think one time we had sewer problems or water problems at three in the morning, obviously

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who wouldn't want to send a text out at that time.

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Facebook has a great reach. A lot of people see it, but the problem is there.

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That's not necessarily an authoritative source, and there are people who don't have Facebook, don't want Facebook.

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And so we've been trying to figure out a way to how do we bridge the gap and what's the best way and what do you guys feel is the best way to reach our residents.

426
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Kind of solicits and feedback from staff. I think the general consensus of an idea is more

427
00:38:11,100 --> 00:38:14,860
going to the website. Right now we don't really post those things on the website at all.

428
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:20,540
But developing kind of a, here's emergency notices or you know imperative notices, whatever,

429
00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:25,460
we'll find a good word for it. And then teaching the residents, sharing that this is where

430
00:38:25,460 --> 00:38:29,540
you'll find it no matter what. If the power's out and you want to know why instead of, oh,

431
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,740
I didn't get a text or let me go check Facebook and figure out where that might be with the

432
00:38:33,740 --> 00:38:36,220
onslaught of comments, it'll just be on the top.

433
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,600
Now, I'm not saying that we could get rid of the texting

434
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,160
and all that as well, but it would be kind of,

435
00:38:40,260 --> 00:38:42,040
here's a texting, hey, where are this?

436
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,200
Please check the website for further information.

437
00:38:45,940 --> 00:38:47,840
And then my thought was kind of like a news article

438
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,900
when they updated, it would just be scrolling history

439
00:38:49,900 --> 00:38:52,280
with the most recent at the top, and you can go through

440
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:52,780
and see.

441
00:38:53,140 --> 00:38:55,240
And so really just wanted to get your feedback

442
00:38:55,240 --> 00:38:58,360
on that kind of an idea or if there are other ideas out there

443
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,640
that just how can we do better with communicating

444
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:07,020
with residents because as much as we try, there's always seems to be holes we find as we go down,

445
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:11,440
you know, like maybe we could do better with this or how do we make sure that mainly the most

446
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:17,620
people who can see it are able to see the message. It's interesting that you brought this subject up.

447
00:39:17,780 --> 00:39:26,360
There's a person in, he was up in the hills, but he said he didn't understand why we couldn't

448
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:34,480
push out e-mails and I'm thinking okay that's a lot of people get too many e-mails and they get

449
00:39:35,220 --> 00:39:41,140
you know it's not a good way to get communication but some people still use them like e-mails.

450
00:39:41,340 --> 00:39:46,400
You reckon actually I forgot we do e-mails as well. When the Shopify goes out it's both a text and an

451
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:52,360
e-mail but we're seeking up with it and that's where part of the problem is is we have a system

452
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,740
this kind of disjointed from where our authoritative source of information is

453
00:39:56,740 --> 00:39:59,780
we try to use what is in Polaris, our accounting

454
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:29,520
We're building software for utilities. So part of this may also be not just messaging, like, here's where you can find things that are going on with the city when you need to, but maybe more outreach on that as well. It's like, hey, make sure you're calling in, and if you're not getting these kind of bulletin, disinformation, you're not getting the text, you're not getting the emails. Let's get your information updated because you should be, if you're a resident, those should be included in there. But I know we've had some issues across the board, really.

455
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,460
making sure that that data that's in Polaris matches what's in Yachtify and all

456
00:40:33,460 --> 00:40:38,320
the other systems out there because everybody's got a small crew you know when

457
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,960
it's 10 o'clock at night and power it's it's generally Gary calling me or whoever

458
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,940
so it's how do we make sure we cross all of those and get all of those out in the

459
00:40:46,940 --> 00:40:53,780
right way right but email is included but right it does get lost in the mix so I

460
00:40:53,780 --> 00:40:57,340
think you could funnel to the website but I still think there's value in the

461
00:40:57,340 --> 00:41:01,640
texting like you talked about. And I still think Facebook, I mean, I'm of a certain demographic,

462
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,440
but if something happens in St. George, I look at St. George's Facebook page or their

463
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:10,660
police department Facebook or Instagram to get kind of in real time, what's happening

464
00:41:10,660 --> 00:41:15,640
or at least the quickest update in my opinion. I like how they update it, even if you then

465
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,760
funnel them to the website and say for more, you know, check back the website for more information

466
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:25,220
or information will be updated there. I feel like they update as well, those posts, you

467
00:41:25,220 --> 00:41:27,960
as new information comes in, but I wouldn't discount.

468
00:41:28,460 --> 00:41:29,720
You say that it's not the authority,

469
00:41:29,860 --> 00:41:31,420
but you have the city website,

470
00:41:31,580 --> 00:41:33,140
which is the, or the city Facebook page,

471
00:41:33,140 --> 00:41:34,140
which is the authority.

472
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,240
The city Instagram account, same thing, is the authority.

473
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,140
I would still use both.

474
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:40,960
Absolutely have both.

475
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:42,760
My, you were kind of thinking one post

476
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:43,840
that links to the website.

477
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,280
And when I say on the Facebook,

478
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,180
what I noticed last time is based on their algorithms,

479
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,060
certain updates were pushing to the top

480
00:41:50,060 --> 00:41:52,040
that weren't necessarily the most recent.

481
00:41:52,740 --> 00:41:54,380
Not the latest power outage,

482
00:41:54,380 --> 00:41:59,100
but the one before that, somehow the first one kept being the, you know, what is the most

483
00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:02,500
recent status when I would go look at it, but I'm the one who posted it.

484
00:42:02,580 --> 00:42:05,300
I know that actually this other status, it's like, hey, we're going to be cutting it out

485
00:42:05,300 --> 00:42:06,260
at 10 and going on.

486
00:42:06,740 --> 00:42:08,440
That might look different for everybody too.

487
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:08,700
Right.

488
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:13,380
And that's where it gets confusing when we try to figure out the best way to do that.

489
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:14,320
Do we do multiple posts?

490
00:42:14,460 --> 00:42:15,500
Do we comment on a post?

491
00:42:16,020 --> 00:42:19,460
Do we have one post that says, here's on Facebook, it links to the website, go here.

492
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,960
That's what I just want to eliminate that kind of confusion on what is right.

493
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,060
what's the most recent, what changes have happened?

494
00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:31,800
Could you, I mean, would we have the budget or desire to boost it then

495
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,700
or kind of amplify that post?

496
00:42:35,460 --> 00:42:41,260
If it, we'd have to have a policy on what deems important enough to boost,

497
00:42:41,620 --> 00:42:44,100
boosting actually doesn't cost that much. I mean, you could do it for $5.

498
00:42:44,460 --> 00:42:46,660
Sure. Rock can find the money, you always does.

499
00:42:47,060 --> 00:42:49,420
But maybe that could overcome the algorithm or whatever.

500
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,060
We could do that and that's a quick and easy fix as well on the Facebook side.

501
00:42:53,060 --> 00:42:58,620
So yeah, that's an option I just know I know I'm of a different demographic than a lot of people in the city, but

502
00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:06,600
My first thought is not to go to the website my first thoughts go to the social media because that's most easily updated or at least it seems

503
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,300
It is and it seems like the younger generation

504
00:43:10,780 --> 00:43:15,420
I'll use the Facebook a lot of people that are older or not gonna have a Facebook

505
00:43:15,420 --> 00:43:20,560
I'm the same way I look on Facebook. Yeah, but it's kind of I had a resident

506
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,300
And he actually told me that, you know, I'm an adult.

507
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,220
I don't have Facebook, so I'm not sure what to do here.

508
00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:29,680
Well, I think Instagram hits a younger demographic.

509
00:43:30,340 --> 00:43:31,580
Facebook hits an older.

510
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,960
The website is the good source of truth

511
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,300
if you need to have a lot of information

512
00:43:36,300 --> 00:43:38,460
or always people can go back to it, I think.

513
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,240
And then the text, I just think you have to hit all those boxes.

514
00:43:41,940 --> 00:43:43,440
I don't think you can choose just one.

515
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:44,860
Is that the question?

516
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,760
Not necessarily one, but we're being OK with.

517
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:52,500
So, say we have another, sorry Gary, I'm going to use power, another power outage.

518
00:43:52,620 --> 00:43:57,900
We send a notification that goes out across all platforms, but that notification is essentially

519
00:43:57,900 --> 00:43:58,360
like a link.

520
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,880
When we post an article on our website right now, it goes to Facebook, but when you click

521
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,220
on that, it actually takes you back to the website.

522
00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:09,520
Similar to that, where we're going to go through all of them, but you're going to get one,

523
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,320
one on Facebook, one via text, all of the sources.

524
00:44:12,500 --> 00:44:16,680
When you go to that, you just click it and it's like, okay, the most recent status is, because

525
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:21,680
Again, we do have things that happen after hours, and some may be okay getting a text at 10

526
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:21,920
PM.

527
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:22,820
Others may not.

528
00:44:23,140 --> 00:44:26,700
And it's trying to bridge that gap of how do we make sure that if somebody wants to

529
00:44:26,700 --> 00:44:29,680
know, and we have the means to give them that information, we're doing it, but not being

530
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,860
too obtrusive at the same time.

531
00:44:31,900 --> 00:44:36,240
But if it's an emergency, I don't think most people would care about getting a text at

532
00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:37,480
late in the night.

533
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,140
If it's an emergency.

534
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,320
And we were just talking about that today too, is what, also, where's that line of what,

535
00:44:43,460 --> 00:44:44,460
is a true emergency?

536
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:45,120
Yeah.

537
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,640
you know, if it powers out, especially across Washington County, does that constitute a true

538
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:55,280
emergency where everybody needs to be notified right away? Sometimes, yes, sometimes no.

539
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:59,340
Now, a water line break, it depends, you know.

540
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,740
If it's affecting a few homes, is it worth that effort in terms of sending out that text at three in the morning? That's difficult. Well, for the whole county, that would have been pertinent. So is there an opt out at the end of our text messages on Yachtify? Not as clear as it probably should be, but all carriers, if you just take, if you reply stop, they'll just stop. So what if our text message was, we're aware of the power outage, check the, you know, basically check the website for

541
00:45:29,740 --> 00:45:32,440
updates, and that's where they're all posted, and then it's just the one

542
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,200
communication, and then people can continue to go back to the website if they

543
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,560
want more. Exactly. That's same on Facebook.

544
00:45:39,860 --> 00:45:42,280
The other challenge is we just

545
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:47,100
limited on staff, so it's hard to, it's already a game of telephone, because we

546
00:45:47,100 --> 00:45:51,240
don't have everybody that has access to all platforms. You have to find

547
00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:55,640
easier because we can give access to a good number of people, but Facebook's a

548
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,240
little weird in how they manage that, so it's, we have to kind of maintain

549
00:45:59,240 --> 00:46:03,360
control of who has access to that without, could give it to everybody, but there is a risk

550
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:04,120
with that as well.

551
00:46:04,220 --> 00:46:08,220
Not anybody can do anything bad, but just remembering who you are at the time, changing

552
00:46:08,220 --> 00:46:08,520
and check.

553
00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:13,340
Because I've seen, I've accidentally posted as somebody else when I was saying, okay, caught

554
00:46:13,340 --> 00:46:13,560
that.

555
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,880
So there's a bit of a risk there too, and that's why we're trying to simplify how we get those

556
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:18,160
out.

557
00:46:18,740 --> 00:46:23,460
And if we go to a kind of unified system, then it's really just posting on the website, which

558
00:46:23,460 --> 00:46:27,960
would automatically trigger all the others without having to, or now if powers out Gary calls

559
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:28,500
one of us.

560
00:46:28,500 --> 00:46:33,780
So I can do Facebook and website, but I'm not necessarily a Yoplify, so I go to Pristell. She does the Yoplify

561
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:38,560
It's very kind of disjointed and when we're trying to get things out quickly, it really just slows it down

562
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:45,640
I like the idea of having it on the website and having that as the primary place and the text of email or whatever drives them to the website

563
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:51,440
And it would be the end goal is it's all automated whoever post it and actually gets it out there all they have to do

564
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:57,320
They go to one place they go to the back end of our website post it select the right kind of whatever work category

565
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,120
We're going to call this a public alert.

566
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,560
And when that happens, OK, that drives all

567
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,220
of the other actions to come out of that.

568
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:05,380
It'll send a text.

569
00:47:05,540 --> 00:47:08,500
It'll send Facebook, Instagram, all sources, or head,

570
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,500
all at once, and then maybe some rules on texting.

571
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,180
Maybe we do to say, OK, if it's whatever, after midnight

572
00:47:15,180 --> 00:47:17,120
or whatever, we don't send a text.

573
00:47:17,220 --> 00:47:18,700
But we'll still send an email on Facebook.

574
00:47:19,020 --> 00:47:22,360
That way, we can kind of, we'll never make everybody happy.

575
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,480
But we can try and see if we can cross over as many

576
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,300
as we can so that it's like, OK, we've

577
00:47:27,300 --> 00:47:30,180
hit 90% they're okay with our communication.

578
00:47:30,860 --> 00:47:32,260
We'll try our best to get the other talent.

579
00:47:32,500 --> 00:47:34,920
It's really hard to challenging to get all of them.

580
00:47:35,220 --> 00:47:37,120
When you post to Facebook and Instagram,

581
00:47:37,260 --> 00:47:39,420
can you post so that it goes to the story as well?

582
00:47:39,540 --> 00:47:41,060
Not just a post because a lot more people

583
00:47:41,060 --> 00:47:42,720
will see stories I think than posts.

584
00:47:44,060 --> 00:47:44,780
I don't know.

585
00:47:45,180 --> 00:47:45,860
I will look at that.

586
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,220
That might be an option.

587
00:47:47,380 --> 00:47:48,260
We haven't done that in the past.

588
00:47:48,460 --> 00:47:49,640
The stories you see when we do post,

589
00:47:49,780 --> 00:47:50,680
those are manual actions.

590
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,180
We can look into that for sure.

591
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:55,840
I think those will be a lot more visible

592
00:47:55,840 --> 00:48:01,860
And then you won't have to that algorithm problem of the others popping up it would be the most reason stories go up at the top

593
00:48:01,860 --> 00:48:02,900
Yeah, that's a good idea

594
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:06,360
Mayor can we hear from?

595
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,800
Yeah, you just need to come to the mic so

596
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:13,960
you need to come up to the mic so you get shot in minutes

597
00:48:15,500 --> 00:48:17,100
You just have to say your name

598
00:48:17,780 --> 00:48:18,480
You have to say

599
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:19,200
Live from

600
00:48:19,780 --> 00:48:20,120
Okay

601
00:48:21,140 --> 00:48:26,840
The bottom line is this, I was in the middle of the great blackout of 2026.

602
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,420
I immediately hooked up my generators and went next door to my 86-year-old neighbor

603
00:48:31,420 --> 00:48:35,640
and her partially paralyzed daughter and held out.

604
00:48:36,220 --> 00:48:40,720
Now initially we did get messages, people were on Facebook and stuff, and the first message

605
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:45,040
is everybody was coming across, saying, oh my God, a plane ran into the thing.

606
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,460
So everybody's like, oh, this is going to be down for two days.

607
00:48:47,460 --> 00:48:53,920
The most effective message came from our public works department, which came over messenger

608
00:48:54,460 --> 00:49:00,400
and basically said to everybody, you know, things are going to be down until late in the morning.

609
00:49:01,020 --> 00:49:05,980
The problem with going to the website and Facebook is that there's so many people on the phone networks,

610
00:49:06,340 --> 00:49:10,900
you can't get a hold of the internet, you can't use AI either to connect up,

611
00:49:11,180 --> 00:49:15,600
because the system is dragged down by the amount of usage of everybody on their phones.

612
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:26,440
So you necessarily can't go to the website, but it was a wondrous moment when we did get that message and it was like, okay, things are going to be, you know, back to status quo.

613
00:49:26,900 --> 00:49:29,180
Okay, that's the take I want to have. Thank you, okay.

614
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:30,280
Thank you.

615
00:49:30,500 --> 00:49:40,420
So Lance, the other concern that I have is making sure that people can enroll in that because if it's just the appifying, it's just connected with the original phone number.

616
00:49:40,420 --> 00:49:41,700
I think, Chris, that we were talking about.

617
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:42,880
It was your...

618
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,380
Well, I didn't, I haven't been getting notifications for a while.

619
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:45,840
All these phones.

620
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:51,600
So, able to opt in at our number or email so that we can...

621
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:52,840
We're looking at that as well.

622
00:49:52,940 --> 00:49:54,240
And that's kind of what's driving this too

623
00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:56,760
is what's our best source, you know,

624
00:49:56,900 --> 00:49:58,700
right now with all the systems being separate.

625
00:49:59,460 --> 00:49:59,980
We're also...

626
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:29,140
Can we just same thing with like our newsletter, just all one system? Maybe it looks at Polaris, but it isn't that. You can have people that come in and say, you know, maybe they're renting it, you know, or they're here for a little while, but they're not permanent. They want to get these notifications, too, or they have family here, you know. My parents loved to know what's going on here. Maybe they want to sign up and see that, you know, just so they know all kinds of situations that aren't handled just with that. So yeah, we can look at that as well, try to figure out the best way and then also to start.

627
00:50:29,140 --> 00:50:33,900
We're reaching out more to say, hey, make sure that your information's up to date similar

628
00:50:33,900 --> 00:50:38,340
to how, if you look at the Washington County and the reverse 911 system, they'll send it

629
00:50:38,340 --> 00:50:41,340
out, you know, you need to go sign up and you need to make sure your information's up

630
00:50:41,340 --> 00:50:41,760
to date.

631
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:46,940
A similar kind of messaging campaign to make sure that they are double checking and the

632
00:50:46,940 --> 00:50:50,480
right numbers are being contacted because I know that some numbers in there are still

633
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:51,480
landlines.

634
00:50:54,590 --> 00:50:54,950
Okay.

635
00:50:55,490 --> 00:50:56,090
Very good hope.

636
00:50:56,190 --> 00:50:56,890
That's a good direction.

637
00:50:56,890 --> 00:51:02,510
I think I also like the idea of a unified way to just post on the website and then send

638
00:51:02,510 --> 00:51:05,150
out to other other mediums and that makes sense.

639
00:51:06,730 --> 00:51:07,290
Okay.

640
00:51:07,530 --> 00:51:08,070
Thank you.

641
00:51:09,310 --> 00:51:10,030
All right.

642
00:51:10,150 --> 00:51:14,490
Our next item is discussion regarding proposed provision of construction design standards to

643
00:51:14,490 --> 00:51:18,570
coincide with a new sensitive lands ordinance, ordinance presented by Casey.

644
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,000
Good evening, Mayor and council.

645
00:51:26,300 --> 00:51:40,640
In last week's meeting, during Rick's presentation, he spoke to changes that we were going to need to do to our construction design standards to coincide with the new sensitive lands that's being created.

646
00:51:42,020 --> 00:51:50,280
Those changes are needing to happen to 3.4 of our design standards, which is the drainage and flood control design.

647
00:51:50,280 --> 00:52:00,420
The main changes that are meeting to happen are a lot of the direction that this section

648
00:52:00,420 --> 00:52:12,540
gave to developers was being affected by our 100-year flood zone and those were the

649
00:52:12,540 --> 00:52:17,580
The main area is being affected with the new sensitive lands ordinance.

650
00:52:18,460 --> 00:52:30,300
That is where the developers will be directed and that's what will set what the new requirements

651
00:52:30,300 --> 00:52:35,140
are for their permits and approvals through the city.

652
00:52:35,140 --> 00:52:36,600
If

653
00:52:38,740 --> 00:52:45,700
you go through this new one, you scroll up to the top.

654
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:58,400
So a lot of what is happening in the changes is clean up and remove all of those sections

655
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:06,940
that refer to the 100-year flood zone and in its place are just the new sections for

656
00:53:06,940 --> 00:53:08,600
were addressing the sensitive lands.

657
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,040
The spaces that you can see, large spaces between paragraphs

658
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:19,820
are where we have removed something in the current set.

659
00:53:20,620 --> 00:53:23,860
That first space was just to clean up.

660
00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:29,240
It's just a removal of a sentence that was almost

661
00:53:29,240 --> 00:53:33,780
the exact verbiage of the first sentence of 3.4.

662
00:53:33,780 --> 00:53:44,280
so it's just a cleanup of that one. When you start in 3.4.1 the city right now is

663
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:54,700
currently updating our city stormwater master plan so we have added in mid-paragraph

664
00:53:54,700 --> 00:54:00,360
the word current city stormwater master plan just so it brings their attention

665
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:06,500
that there is a new version in case anyone is holding on to an older version of

666
00:54:06,500 --> 00:54:11,720
that they can look in reference to the new version of that when we get it

667
00:54:11,720 --> 00:54:12,180
completed.

668
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:23,120
The second big space is just the removal of a short paragraph that

669
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:27,220
was addressing the 100-year flood zone.

670
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:30,640
Each

671
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,060
development should handle its stormwater runoff

672
00:54:37,060 --> 00:54:44,740
in such a manner that no increase in the 10 or 100-year peak storm runoff. That is going

673
00:54:44,740 --> 00:54:52,420
to be addressed in the sensitive lands zone and isn't needed in this section here in

674
00:54:55,370 --> 00:54:55,830
general.

675
00:54:58,170 --> 00:54:59,830
It's also a

676
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,940
We've changed a word in this next paragraph.

677
00:55:08,190 --> 00:55:26,870
Drainage from sheet flow to point discharge flow, while the amount of water may be controlled, the effects of all point discharges must be handled to ensure no detrimental effects to downstream properties. The previous version is a paragraph just addressing those downstream properties.

678
00:55:28,980 --> 00:55:33,620
The next large space is another

679
00:55:33,620 --> 00:55:43,800
removal of verbiage about, and this analysis needed based on 100-year flooding will

680
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:49,280
back

681
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,020
up just a little bit please.

682
00:55:54,460 --> 00:56:02,360
So in lieu of the 100-year flood zone we've added in this

683
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:06,540
section that is instead including wetlands,

684
00:56:06,660 --> 00:56:11,120
intermittent streams, washes, drainage basins,

685
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,780
larger than 0.15 square miles.

686
00:56:14,980 --> 00:56:18,540
And then we are directing them to the Santa Clara City

687
00:56:18,540 --> 00:56:21,920
floodplain development permit, including

688
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,420
all applicable for myths from the Utah State

689
00:56:24,420 --> 00:56:28,120
Engineer, FEMA, and the Army Corps of Engineers.

690
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:34,760
is all added in and that will coincide with the sensitive lands.

691
00:56:55,330 --> 00:57:04,410
This paragraph that's being removed was just stating what needed to happen for any modifications

692
00:57:04,410 --> 00:57:13,310
to a drainage channel and all of those are now addressed in our sensitive lands maps and

693
00:57:13,310 --> 00:57:21,550
And they will have to go to that committee to get any kinds of approvals and permits for

694
00:57:22,050 --> 00:57:24,550
changing any drainage channels.

695
00:57:26,150 --> 00:57:35,290
In 3.4.2, we have new standards for low impact development.

696
00:57:36,170 --> 00:57:41,650
Any property exceeding one acre has to abide by the new LED standards.

697
00:57:41,650 --> 00:57:51,510
So, we are adding that in here, this section before was named an erosion control, is what

698
00:57:51,510 --> 00:58:02,590
3.4.2 is, the verbiage is almost the same, other than now they have to abide by a higher

699
00:58:02,590 --> 00:58:09,570
standard of the LED and we do have that broke out in our construction design

700
00:58:09,570 --> 00:58:10,230
standards.

701
00:58:12,630 --> 00:58:13,430
3

702
00:58:20,310 --> 00:58:27,590
.4.3 irrigation ditches used to be a lot longer section. We're

703
00:58:27,590 --> 00:58:34,530
leaving the first line of it in just for any existing ditches that may exist in

704
00:58:34,530 --> 00:58:42,070
city still but there was a 3.4.3.1 that we're removing which is how you can use

705
00:58:42,070 --> 00:58:48,190
those ditches none of them are in use anymore for any kind of irrigation so we

706
00:58:48,190 --> 00:58:56,810
felt like it could be removed and then there was a 3.4.3.2 section which is a

707
00:58:56,810 --> 00:59:02,050
requirement to get the irrigation company approval to use any of those ditches

708
00:59:02,050 --> 00:59:06,330
which isn't really needed anymore.

709
00:59:08,150 --> 00:59:15,830
The rest of 3.4.4 follows exactly the current standards.

710
00:59:16,610 --> 00:59:25,160
That's the only proposed changes that we're proposing for 3.4.

711
00:59:26,700 --> 00:59:27,740
Any questions?

712
00:59:31,260 --> 00:59:33,180
Council, anything you'd like to discuss?

713
00:59:33,180 --> 00:59:33,400
Yes.

714
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:38,220
Okay.

715
00:59:38,340 --> 00:59:38,920
I think it sounds good.

716
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:39,520
It's pretty straightforward.

717
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:39,940
Thank you.

718
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:41,260
Thank you for the presentation.

719
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:44,020
All right.

720
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:48,940
Move on to item number five, which is a discussion regarding the Spence gun improvements presented

721
00:59:48,940 --> 00:59:49,540
by Ryan.

722
00:59:55,610 --> 00:59:56,830
Good afternoon, Mayor and Council.

723
00:59:56,830 --> 00:59:59,970
I don't know in the last time I was in...

724
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,200
Any of you are up at Spence Gunfield, but hasn't changed much.

725
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:28,200
Fencing and lighting, I believe, is the original. Fencing and lighting, when that was built 300 and some odd years ago. So it needs to be updated and needs to be replaced. The lighting, obviously need to replace with some LED, some of this works better is more efficient. Fencing, other than being a bad shape, isn't adequate. It's a safety concern.

726
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:32,720
The backstop isn't tall enough or wide enough to protect spectators or cars.

727
01:00:33,580 --> 01:00:37,040
The outfield fence, I believe, is somewhere around five feet tall and directly

728
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:41,200
outside to left field. You've got the trail and then you've got substations.

729
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:46,440
So I just imagine riding my bike or walking down that trail during a game and getting

730
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:50,320
hit inside. Hit inside the head with the baseball, probably ruined your day.

731
01:00:52,220 --> 01:00:57,480
So yeah, if you've been around, you've known it in the last few budget retreats,

732
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:03,260
is been on our list and we just felt like this is something the revenue we bring in from

733
01:01:03,260 --> 01:01:07,520
all our tournaments is something we should go after the county and try to get some TRT funding

734
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:16,840
to help with the project. So that's what we did this year and with the help of Lance we put

735
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:25,940
in the request. So they have a 50% match which would be somewhere around $180,000 and that's what

736
01:01:25,940 --> 01:01:33,120
we asked for. We were granted 135,000, which isn't what we're aiming for, but it's enough

737
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:39,940
that we fear we need to get this off the list and get it done. So that's what we're planning

738
01:01:39,940 --> 01:01:45,940
on doing. One of the bids I used was for the fencing was three years old, so we're going

739
01:01:45,940 --> 01:01:52,020
to have to go get an updated bid. And that also didn't include the, and we'll show you on

740
01:01:52,020 --> 01:01:56,040
picture in the minute, how high we wanted to go on the outfield fence, we decided that

741
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:56,500
afterwards.

742
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:01,540
So that's why I let you know if this picture right here, we searched far and wide, and

743
01:02:01,540 --> 01:02:05,780
we couldn't find anybody that could do an AI picture to give you a good representation.

744
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:11,880
So if I found a guy here in the building who's named Brock, say, let me give it a shot.

745
01:02:12,100 --> 01:02:14,900
So this, this what he came up with, and it's pretty dang good.

746
01:02:15,740 --> 01:02:20,820
So anyway, what we want to do from left field, at least to right center, if not all the way

747
01:02:20,820 --> 01:02:28,380
is 15 feet high and we you know with the recommendation of a former mayor

748
01:02:28,380 --> 01:02:32,640
Rick you want to look like a mini green monster out there so that's where

749
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:36,340
that the green renderings is and you've got options you can paint it but you

750
01:02:36,340 --> 01:02:41,720
can't really tell so most likely what I'm doing is doing green slats down through

751
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:46,300
the chain link if we decide to go this route and give it that green look it'll

752
01:02:46,300 --> 01:02:52,520
look sharp. The lighting we're cutting down, right now we're using, we have eight poles

753
01:02:52,520 --> 01:03:00,620
with lights on them. The schematics we got from Musco, we'll drop that down to six. So

754
01:03:00,620 --> 01:03:05,020
we'll go from four in the outfield just to two and then two on the left field side, two on

755
01:03:05,020 --> 01:03:11,140
the right field side. And those, I don't know if you're familiar with Musco, but so Musco

756
01:03:11,140 --> 01:03:17,560
We have other places in the city. We use them pick a ball is probably the main one we deal from the most

757
01:03:18,700 --> 01:03:26,260
Whenever there's something wrong their system detects before we do that there's a problem whether it's a bowl about it

758
01:03:26,260 --> 01:03:32,640
Just the text says something's wrong. So they'll send us myself and Dane and Ryan and alert and then we go investigate

759
01:03:33,260 --> 01:03:38,800
And if it's something we can't do it's a bowl about then they hire a company to come out and fix it

760
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:42,040
It's all under warranty when they do it for several years after they're done.

761
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:48,480
So right now when these, someone goes out and we have to call Port Eric and get them out

762
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,300
there at the boom truck and it's a pain.

763
01:03:53,020 --> 01:03:58,580
So anyway, it'll be much better, much more efficient, full bleed out into the neighborhood hood

764
01:03:58,580 --> 01:03:59,880
like the ones do right now.

765
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:06,680
Lights we have right now, we turn them off and try to turn them back on, it sometimes takes

766
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:09,080
and an hour and a half to get back on.

767
01:04:09,460 --> 01:04:10,700
It's usually around half hour,

768
01:04:10,780 --> 01:04:12,180
but sometimes it can think a while.

769
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,680
We learned that with Murray in the car show,

770
01:04:14,860 --> 01:04:16,080
and he had turned off for the drone show,

771
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,560
and it took a lot longer to come back on than we expected.

772
01:04:20,260 --> 01:04:22,640
So anyway, we just wanted to let you know what we're doing

773
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:27,380
and get your thoughts on what we have planned.

774
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,980
And then also the fence is going down from the dugout

775
01:04:31,980 --> 01:04:34,500
all the way down to the outfield fence right now.

776
01:04:34,500 --> 01:04:36,900
All those are relief five feet tall.

777
01:04:37,420 --> 01:04:39,040
We are going to raise those to at least eight.

778
01:04:40,740 --> 01:04:47,170
Get them tall enough to where you have to really try to get in the field if we have it locked.

779
01:04:48,310 --> 01:04:53,590
So when we go prep all our fields for tournaments, right, if we got tournaments starting tomorrow

780
01:04:53,590 --> 01:04:58,190
we got the fields prepped, we lock them, let people know we can't get on them because we've

781
01:04:58,190 --> 01:04:58,990
got tournament tomorrow.

782
01:04:58,990 --> 01:04:59,830
Little

783
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:22,700
We can't keep them off. Those fences are so short, they want to get on, they're going to get on. Same thing with here. So we're not, no way we can actually keep them out if they want to get on, but at least, deter them a little bit. They can, or they have to climb and think about it. But also for protection, people standing down the sidelines, you know, watching the games, taller the fence and more protection they have.

784
01:05:26,690 --> 01:05:31,210
So any thoughts? Sorry, the height on the,

785
01:05:32,930 --> 01:05:35,110
each side. How tall are you saying?

786
01:05:35,290 --> 01:05:38,470
We're looking at eight feet. Eight feet on the sides.

787
01:05:39,150 --> 01:05:42,750
And then 15 feet left and center maybe on the way around.

788
01:05:43,090 --> 01:05:44,330
Yeah, at least to right center.

789
01:05:45,030 --> 01:05:47,410
And that's going to depend on, they might have to

790
01:05:48,190 --> 01:05:50,530
put in different poles to go up that high if they do.

791
01:05:50,630 --> 01:05:52,530
We're not going to go any further than right center.

792
01:05:52,950 --> 01:05:54,310
And then drop down to 10 feet.

793
01:05:54,950 --> 01:05:57,550
Eight to 10 feet, probably 10 feet from there to the corner.

794
01:05:59,670 --> 01:06:04,930
So I mean that's how a lot of baseball fields are if you look they're kind of dropped down in right field

795
01:06:04,930 --> 01:06:07,810
That's why I'm glad my son's a left he has a better chance

796
01:06:09,950 --> 01:06:12,390
He didn't play baseball, but he missed his shot

797
01:06:13,830 --> 01:06:18,990
So total cost is about 360 ask for 180 from the county. They're given 135

798
01:06:19,970 --> 01:06:24,050
They did 135 yes and the bid I have from and I

799
01:06:24,910 --> 01:06:27,590
So from allied fencing from

800
01:06:28,370 --> 01:06:36,370
three years ago was 123,000. And again, that was 20 feet in the outfield fence, but I

801
01:06:36,370 --> 01:06:43,870
believe half of that was netting because that was their cheaper option. And so it's

802
01:06:43,870 --> 01:06:49,510
obviously going to go up a little bit. But what we got from the county will pay for the

803
01:06:49,510 --> 01:06:53,930
fencing, then that's great. We got a two for, you know, we can do the lighting. The bid

804
01:06:53,930 --> 01:07:00,050
from musco for the lighting we got two dids from them approximately 150,000 just for all the materials,

805
01:07:00,290 --> 01:07:05,950
lights, poles and we install everything and I had them lay let's monitor costs you guys do

806
01:07:05,950 --> 01:07:14,270
everything sub it out and it was around 210 for them to do everything installation and that's going

807
01:07:14,270 --> 01:07:20,790
to be running you know a lot of conduit because up there there's nothing in conduit all the sprinkler

808
01:07:20,790 --> 01:07:30,850
I don't mind. Everything else is done by volunteers. Every time we run a trencher through there, we rip out sprinkler wire. There's no, so that all have to be run, come do it for the wiring.

809
01:07:31,810 --> 01:07:34,830
Be a project. There needs to be done.

810
01:07:38,500 --> 01:07:40,340
Okay, yeah. Council, any feedback or?

811
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:42,400
Sounds great to me.

812
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:49,260
I was going to add Melody Finlinson that's helping out with the sensitive lands.

813
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:54,440
She lives on the cutie corner from the ball fill and she says she has a bucket of balls

814
01:07:54,940 --> 01:07:56,460
that they make it all the way to her yard.

815
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:05,340
So I mean, I don't think a tall offense would even help with that, but yeah, I think if

816
01:08:05,340 --> 01:08:06,020
you look good.

817
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:10,100
I haven't gotten a few calls from people that live right across the street asking if we could

818
01:08:10,100 --> 01:08:13,740
put up some netting or something because those balls, foul balls go right and hit their

819
01:08:13,740 --> 01:08:18,760
cars. The backstop power, backstop water, backstop, there was definitely help with that.

820
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:25,660
It's not going to stop them all. They will definitely help. So I guess one of the risks

821
01:08:25,660 --> 01:08:33,300
of living right next to a ball field. Yeah. Okay. Anything else, council? All right.

822
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:40,080
We'll

823
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,040
We'll move on to item number three, our staff reports.

824
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,120
And she's lovely, would you mind starting?

825
01:08:52,070 --> 01:08:53,090
Thank you, Mayor and Council.

826
01:08:54,150 --> 01:08:56,950
Two weeks ago, we met with a public safety work group

827
01:08:56,950 --> 01:08:58,510
and felt like it was really productive.

828
01:08:59,630 --> 01:09:01,490
We want to report again, Officer Bartreff

829
01:09:01,490 --> 01:09:04,070
is off of field training and he's now working a shift.

830
01:09:05,650 --> 01:09:09,210
Officer Brayton Tobler is in the middle of field training,

831
01:09:09,210 --> 01:09:12,610
but on what day was it?

832
01:09:13,670 --> 01:09:21,710
Last week he gave birth to his wife GIF birth to their first child, the bow tobler.

833
01:09:21,970 --> 01:09:22,670
So we're pretty excited.

834
01:09:22,930 --> 01:09:28,870
We've had, this is the fourth, but we'll have five baby boys born from the individual

835
01:09:28,870 --> 01:09:33,190
sonaric department or their wives, spouses, that's been pretty neat.

836
01:09:34,230 --> 01:09:38,890
We did an active threat training at Rocky Vista for their staff, so it's pretty cool to identify

837
01:09:38,890 --> 01:09:40,630
by some of the things we need to train on

838
01:09:40,630 --> 01:09:42,910
in a big facility like that.

839
01:09:44,090 --> 01:09:45,570
And then just upcoming this month,

840
01:09:45,690 --> 01:09:48,070
we have Heritage Day, Swiss Days and the PGA event,

841
01:09:48,210 --> 01:09:49,830
which we're excited about.

842
01:09:51,110 --> 01:09:52,170
And that's all I got.

843
01:09:53,690 --> 01:09:54,990
Today, council, any questions?

844
01:09:56,830 --> 01:09:57,570
Okay, thank you.

845
01:09:58,230 --> 01:09:59,070
Oh, we have a question.

846
01:09:59,270 --> 01:09:59,970
Who, what was the,

847
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:07,260
I forget the name of the K-9 officer. What's his name again? Lance Bartreff in the K-9 is

848
01:10:07,260 --> 01:10:18,000
forced with one R, totally odd to me. Okay. Lance, L-A-Y-N-C. And then Bart, Bartreff. Bartreff,

849
01:10:18,260 --> 01:10:20,940
B-A-R-T-R-U-F-F.

850
01:10:23,220 --> 01:10:25,440
Okay, very good. All right, Lance.

851
01:10:31,290 --> 01:10:33,410
Really don't have too much this time, so

852
01:10:33,410 --> 01:10:37,770
So working through a lot of our migrations we're about 80% done with getting what we had

853
01:10:37,770 --> 01:10:43,170
on cloud back on prem just pushing full steam ahead because as soon as we get it done

854
01:10:43,170 --> 01:10:48,970
the more money we save so almost done we did get Ivans fully migrated onto our RJS so

855
01:10:48,970 --> 01:10:54,430
when that headaches kind of over so we'll just keep pushing through in questions.

856
01:10:56,070 --> 01:10:57,410
Thank you very much.

857
01:10:58,210 --> 01:10:59,370
All right Ryan.

858
01:11:03,540 --> 01:11:08,120
It's been a minute since we've had an update, so yeah, it's been about a month, I think.

859
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:09,720
Yeah, a lot's been going on.

860
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:13,300
Pickable courts, we have one court down.

861
01:11:14,820 --> 01:11:19,940
We have a problem up there with players tightening the nets themselves.

862
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:25,640
So you've got a contraption on there, the wheel we've taken that off, but it leaves a nice

863
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:26,140
square.

864
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,060
If you have a crescent wrench, you can still do it and they bring their own tools.

865
01:11:30,180 --> 01:11:34,700
so they get them so tight that the poles are in a sleeve down through the post

866
01:11:34,700 --> 01:11:39,440
tension concrete and it finally puts them in a bind where it bends that pole

867
01:11:39,440 --> 01:11:43,920
and then the net sags you can't tighten it anymore. So this is the second time

868
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:47,700
we've had it and it got so bad they had to cut it off. Clint Sportcourt's been

869
01:11:47,700 --> 01:11:52,800
working on it and cut it off in core drill, get it out, put a new one in and pour

870
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:58,680
concrete back in to fix it. So we think we've come up with a way to make it so they

871
01:11:58,680 --> 01:11:59,720
They can't tighten them anymore,

872
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,200
figure we'll drill a hole right through that square

873
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:03,200
and put a lock on it.

874
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:05,420
So so far it's working.

875
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:06,360
We'll see.

876
01:12:07,540 --> 01:12:08,920
But he's hoping to have that done tomorrow.

877
01:12:09,260 --> 01:12:11,040
New poll in there and we'll have the net back up.

878
01:12:11,540 --> 01:12:12,260
Still something good.

879
01:12:12,420 --> 01:12:14,580
If you remember, we had two more courts to resurface.

880
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:18,280
They are gonna be here if not next week, the week after.

881
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:19,820
They've got a big project up north,

882
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,320
they've got to finish up and then they'll be down here.

883
01:12:22,540 --> 01:12:24,520
So we'll get those last two refinished.

884
01:12:25,780 --> 01:12:31,560
Ivan's reached out to us, they're looking, they have an intern and he has to have a project

885
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,940
for part of his course and his project is to do a pickleball league.

886
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:39,280
So they want to know if they can use our courts at Boobler.

887
01:12:40,340 --> 01:12:43,400
The reason they want to use our courts, they have their own courts, but they don't have

888
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,600
any with lights, so they can't do anything in the evening.

889
01:12:46,980 --> 01:12:52,000
And this will be, they want to do it Monday nights, only Monday nights for about six weeks.

890
01:12:53,140 --> 01:12:57,440
And so we met with them and see what we would charge them to rent the courts and everything.

891
01:12:57,620 --> 01:13:02,680
So they're going through all logistics to see if it works and they get a leak going that let us know.

892
01:13:02,780 --> 01:13:04,560
So if they do, it'll be Monday nights.

893
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:07,520
If you want to play on a pickable league, it's going to be by skill level.

894
01:13:07,660 --> 01:13:09,560
I guess there's skill levels.

895
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:10,680
I don't know.

896
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:12,300
It's not ages.

897
01:13:12,300 --> 01:13:13,120
It's skill levels.

898
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:17,560
So if you're into that kind of thing, keep an eye out for it.

899
01:13:17,700 --> 01:13:18,680
They're going to advertise it.

900
01:13:18,740 --> 01:13:19,220
They do it.

901
01:13:19,220 --> 01:13:25,240
So other than that, guys finished up the overseeing project, had some strategically placed

902
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:28,780
storms that helped out nicely, it should be a good year for the grass up there.

903
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:35,320
And now they're just down here, trimming branches down the center clear drive and city hall

904
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:39,780
getting ready for Swiss days and they'll be touching up the benches outside and getting

905
01:13:39,780 --> 01:13:40,400
ready for Swiss days.

906
01:13:41,700 --> 01:13:42,420
That's all I've got.

907
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:42,960
Any questions?

908
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:48,160
Do you want to share maybe where you had some moors down and what's going on with that?

909
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:55,700
Oh, yeah. So, when I passed, no. Overseering takes its toll on our mowers. But other than that,

910
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:59,240
we already had two mowers down when we started that project. We've been down four mowers

911
01:13:59,740 --> 01:14:05,000
the past few weeks. Both of our big mowers and two of the little ones. So the guys have been trying

912
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:12,020
to do everything with the two little mowers. So they've been behind and got two of the three of the

913
01:14:12,020 --> 01:14:17,040
four back. So now they're catching up. So if you've noticed a couple things maybe didn't get

914
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:21,920
take my load one week and that's why, not because they decided not to, we're just trying

915
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:27,940
to do what we can with what we had. But they're fixed, we should be getting the last one

916
01:14:27,940 --> 01:14:29,400
back next week and good to go.

917
01:14:31,060 --> 01:14:35,460
Okay, any questions for Ryan? Okay, thank you very much, scary.

918
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:38,740
Meeting Mayor and Council.

919
01:14:41,020 --> 01:14:43,320
First slide in my hand, it was just a Rocky Mount Power

920
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,360
outings that we had on the 27th of August.

921
01:14:47,820 --> 01:14:51,160
I appreciate Lance and working for working

922
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:57,280
all the communication efforts, get the word out a little bit better. That outage was just

923
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,680
a little bit different where the whole county was out.

924
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:11,460
Chair, Chair, I keep you mentioned that the cell towers were just overwhelmed and we tried

925
01:15:11,460 --> 01:15:17,280
to get another Shopify message out, but Jamie wasn't even able to hardly get enough

926
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:21,600
cell service to get on to the site to send out another notification just because it

927
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:28,860
was just overwhelmed. So, but anyway, I think it went fairly well for this wide outages

928
01:15:28,860 --> 01:15:31,680
it was that we got the power on as much as we did.

929
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:34,720
Having the generation down there really helped.

930
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,420
We were able to get more on all at once.

931
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:42,720
Other cities they don't have the ratio of a generation to load.

932
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:49,060
So we were able to get all of our residents on pretty much at the same time with the exception

933
01:15:49,060 --> 01:15:53,640
to Councilman Chaplain's area.

934
01:15:55,740 --> 01:15:59,660
I took a little bit long, we had a switch that malfunctioned a little bit so we'd like

935
01:15:59,660 --> 01:16:03,080
to figure out where it was and got that switch closed in again.

936
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,300
But anyway, overall I think it went pretty well.

937
01:16:07,420 --> 01:16:08,720
My guys did a great job.

938
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:21,400
We had another dig in, a subcontracting crew that's doing work for CenturyLink, putting in

939
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:23,500
and they just, they're boring machine,

940
01:16:23,660 --> 01:16:25,940
hit some cables, third last Thursday night.

941
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:28,360
Thanks to Casey and his crew for sending out

942
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:29,880
a couple of guys in their back truck

943
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:30,920
to help with the excavation.

944
01:16:31,060 --> 01:16:33,080
Cause there was a lot of communication cables

945
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:35,540
and power cables in that, in that trench.

946
01:16:36,700 --> 01:16:38,680
They were there to tell about three in the morning,

947
01:16:39,020 --> 01:16:42,500
Friday morning getting that fixed and buttoned up.

948
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:48,980
Crew's been busy doing the preventing maintenance work,

949
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:54,060
pulling wire into the black deserts phase of Sylvoree.

950
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:59,880
They're just about done with that by, I think, around the 22nd, 23rd of the month

951
01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:01,240
they should have everything done up there.

952
01:17:05,370 --> 01:17:09,990
One thing I want to mention is about the power bill that we got in July.

953
01:17:10,530 --> 01:17:15,130
Some of you have heard how high it was. It was probably one of our highest we've had.

954
01:17:16,070 --> 01:17:19,750
It was over about $900,000 for the month of July.

955
01:17:19,750 --> 01:17:49,430
A lot of that was, you know, it wasn't hot, but a lot of it is the transmission costs, and that, and through EDAM, all their charges, the Kaisal charges, I did just for do the memo from UAMS, kind of explaining what's included in that bill and what's still to come from that bill because there's a lag in getting all the transmission and Kaisal charges added to those bills, and they actually have two years.

956
01:17:49,430 --> 01:17:56,530
to go back and true up anything that they've missed or miscalculated so it can

957
01:17:56,530 --> 01:18:02,930
be kind of a mess for a while until they get it healthiered out. So anyway if

958
01:18:02,930 --> 01:18:07,730
you have any questions on that just get with me on that power bill. I've got more

959
01:18:07,730 --> 01:18:12,850
questions for you, Amazon, why it was so high that month but a lot of it is the

960
01:18:12,850 --> 01:18:20,290
transmission charges in that. Our generation generators are all running good we're still running

961
01:18:20,290 --> 01:18:25,070
them a bit but we're starting to slow down a little bit on on the run time so with that cooler

962
01:18:25,070 --> 01:18:31,810
temperatures. One thing about that generation building it has its own transformer. The generators

963
01:18:31,810 --> 01:18:38,870
generate at 7200 volts. It goes through a transformer backwards so what's using it is a step up

964
01:18:38,870 --> 01:18:44,570
transformer comes out at 69,000 volts to go out on our transmission line. That

965
01:18:44,570 --> 01:18:50,250
transformer is failing. We do oil tests every year and there's the gases and

966
01:18:50,250 --> 01:18:54,870
stuff that are in the oil. Kind of tell what's going on inside. It looks like some

967
01:18:54,870 --> 01:19:01,150
of the insulation is deteriorating and failing in that transformer. We have no

968
01:19:01,150 --> 01:19:07,750
idea how long it's going to last. So we're looking at getting that one rebuilt.

969
01:19:09,810 --> 01:19:10,970
One option we have,

970
01:19:10,970 --> 01:19:16,570
if we add another generator, that transformer is not big enough to handle it, we'd have to get

971
01:19:16,570 --> 01:19:23,370
a size-bear transformer to handle another generator. And so our thought process is getting and ordering

972
01:19:23,370 --> 01:19:29,850
a bigger transformer to handle one more generator and maybe two depending on what council wants to see

973
01:19:29,850 --> 01:19:38,850
down there and then have that 10 MVA rebuild and keep it as a spare for our other substations.

974
01:19:39,410 --> 01:19:45,130
Our other substations are all 10 MVAs and you've got to match that same size so you

975
01:19:45,130 --> 01:19:46,610
can tie them together if needed.

976
01:19:48,970 --> 01:19:55,110
So I'll have more on that time comes, but I'll be looking at getting some bids for a bigger

977
01:19:55,110 --> 01:19:59,870
transform probably that I'll bring that to you in a work meeting.

978
01:20:00,270 --> 01:20:15,310
There's a lot of good information. Just want to give you heads up of what we're looking at. And a transformer, they're almost $1 million right now. So it's a big expense. But if that transformer fails, we don't have a spare to put down there to run our generators.

979
01:20:19,990 --> 01:20:24,950
The U.A. conference went really well. There's a lot of good information.

980
01:20:27,530 --> 01:20:30,250
I think we plan on for a work meeting on the 23rd to

981
01:20:30,250 --> 01:20:36,490
give you a more formal update. I've downloaded all the PowerPoint presentations

982
01:20:36,490 --> 01:20:40,810
that the presenters had, and I'll get those together and email them out to you.

983
01:20:41,030 --> 01:20:46,550
So if you want to view them, you can. But I will give you an update on that on the 23rd.

984
01:20:49,270 --> 01:20:49,710
Any questions?

985
01:20:53,060 --> 01:20:55,120
Okay, thank you for good. Thank you, Casey.

986
01:20:58,700 --> 01:21:04,900
As a crew, they've been busy out replacing sidewalks. We had ended up with

987
01:21:04,900 --> 01:21:11,760
a longer list than we like of sidewalk panels that were pulled to do water leaks. So they've

988
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:19,800
been trying to get caught up on that list. And we started a project down at Little League that

989
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:27,380
we've been working with Councilman Hendrickson on to remove a little bit of the soil behind all

990
01:21:27,380 --> 01:21:35,920
of the back stops and replace that with asphalt roto mill with our paper with a little

991
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:42,740
bit of heat and rolling it down like asphalt it'll set up very hard almost as good as asphalt

992
01:21:42,740 --> 01:21:52,020
will so it'll help eliminate mud issues that we've been having and it rains down there it'll

993
01:21:52,020 --> 01:22:02,840
buy us some time on the part. We have the bid packet ready to send out to build

994
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:09,060
the grade control structure in the river behind Swiss Village. So probably in

995
01:22:09,060 --> 01:22:15,740
the next two to three weeks that will be going out to bid. So a month or two you

996
01:22:15,740 --> 01:22:20,160
might see equipment down in the river behind Swiss Village and they're just

997
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:27,660
going to build a check-down system there so that any future flooding can't cut

998
01:22:27,660 --> 01:22:29,000
it channel and

999
01:22:31,140 --> 01:22:33,260
the river anywhere above there.

1000
01:22:35,940 --> 01:22:36,500
Any questions?

1001
01:22:39,450 --> 01:22:40,210
Okay, very good. Thank

1002
01:22:40,210 --> 01:22:46,070
you. Chief. Good evening, Mayor Council. Just for an update on our wildland

1003
01:22:46,070 --> 01:22:49,210
deployments. We're on our 13th deployment right now.

1004
01:22:49,210 --> 01:22:57,310
crews in Texas and looks like 95% sure they're going to do what's called a crew

1005
01:22:57,310 --> 01:23:03,410
swap so they'll get extended on the fire and we're seeing activity statewide

1006
01:23:03,410 --> 01:23:08,850
kind of do undil just this time of year storms that have come through cooler

1007
01:23:08,850 --> 01:23:12,930
temperatures don't really know if we're going to go out out again this year or not

1008
01:23:12,930 --> 01:23:15,630
but we're still available.

1009
01:23:17,660 --> 01:23:23,390
Of those fires, we've had this year, I told you that we've done 13 deployments and we've

1010
01:23:23,390 --> 01:23:34,410
been on 14 major fires, big, large fires, probably another 18 to 20 smaller fires, and this

1011
01:23:34,410 --> 01:23:36,250
does not include any fire within our jurisdiction.

1012
01:23:36,710 --> 01:23:38,350
So busy, busy year.

1013
01:23:40,620 --> 01:23:44,680
We advertised last week for our part-time admin assistant for the fire department.

1014
01:23:45,380 --> 01:23:49,840
As of Thursday, we had a couple of applicants and then Tia's off this week,

1015
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:53,660
so I don't really know how many we have today, but I know it's more than two.

1016
01:23:55,420 --> 01:23:57,340
Super excited to get that position filled.

1017
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:02,020
Lots of events this time of year, Heritage Day, Swiss Days, PGA.

1018
01:24:03,100 --> 01:24:05,140
Friday is 9-11.

1019
01:24:06,540 --> 01:24:13,460
And there's a few events in the county, probably more than a few, but we're going to do a couple local, just inside of our two-city boundaries.

1020
01:24:13,940 --> 01:24:21,120
So, Rocky Vista University is doing a flag ceremony there. We're going to be involved in, there's a few other things too.

1021
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:31,840
So, crews are busy doing that. I'm not sure if I'm giving you an update on our grants, but we have a major grant that's come available in the last couple of months.

1022
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:42,280
where we have most of that submitted for five-year grants, so most of that information has been

1023
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:47,420
submitted and is trying to tie it up and get it done. It's due, I think, in two to three more weeks.

1024
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:54,860
But the value of that grant is it's over a million dollars, 1.2 million, I think. So it's super

1025
01:24:54,860 --> 01:24:59,660
excited for that possibility as well and we're still in the waiting game on the

1026
01:24:59,660 --> 01:24:59,980
See for...

1027
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:00,140
Thank you, Grant.

1028
01:25:02,460 --> 01:25:13,440
Maybe in the next three to four weeks, we'll start issuing awards on that. So again, super excited for that one as well. It's all I have for now. Do you have any questions?

1029
01:25:15,940 --> 01:25:31,420
Okay. Thank you. Brock. Quickly, you know, auditors are here. We're with our annual audit. We'll have that back to you before the end of the calendar year. And then the other thing is Utah, League of Cities and Towns, October 27th and 28th.

1030
01:25:31,420 --> 01:25:37,240
in Salt Lake if you plan to attend please let me know so we can get registered

1031
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:38,740
as well as accommodations so.

1032
01:25:40,500 --> 01:25:44,300
What's the dates again? October 27th and 28th it's a Tuesday Wednesday.

1033
01:25:45,180 --> 01:25:46,000
I'll be going.

1034
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:56,320
No, no, no, no.

1035
01:25:56,420 --> 01:25:58,380
No counts woman hit and we'll be attending as well.

1036
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:02,900
So we'll be getting sworn in.

1037
01:26:03,060 --> 01:26:03,860
A point to the other.

1038
01:26:04,260 --> 01:26:04,900
Whatever it's called.

1039
01:26:05,140 --> 01:26:05,440
President.

1040
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:06,260
We'll see what happens.

1041
01:26:06,260 --> 01:26:12,040
I should be there, but I'll confirm with you shortly.

1042
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:12,660
Okay.

1043
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:16,580
All right, that's it.

1044
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:17,320
Good.

1045
01:26:18,060 --> 01:26:18,920
Okay, very good.

1046
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:19,840
Selling anything?

1047
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:22,780
Okay, very good.

1048
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:24,640
All right, with that, we will adjourn.

1049
01:26:24,780 --> 01:26:26,360
I'll be back here at six for a regular meeting.

1050
01:26:26,900 --> 01:26:27,380
Thank you, everyone.