1 00:00:23,900 --> 00:00:26,460 Okay. Good afternoon, everyone. 2 00:00:28,620 --> 00:00:34,900 We will call this meeting to order. I'm 1.1. We'll call. 3 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:40,460 Directed by Mr. Mara. Directed by Keegan. Here. Directed by Cremit. 4 00:00:43,340 --> 00:00:48,180 Here. Directed by the side. Here. Directed by. 5 00:00:48,180 --> 00:00:48,780 All right. 6 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:49,360 Here. 7 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:50,640 There's one. 8 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:54,380 How many of us are present? 9 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:55,820 Thank you. 10 00:00:56,020 --> 00:00:58,620 And at one point two, I don't know how to read you. 11 00:00:58,840 --> 00:00:59,480 I have to go. 12 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:00,860 Vice Chair, can you read this one? 13 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:01,260 Sure. 14 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:02,800 Oh, I think that way. 15 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:04,980 I have to face that way. 16 00:01:05,340 --> 00:01:06,120 You're apologize for that. 17 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:07,320 Somewhere around here. 18 00:01:07,380 --> 00:01:09,360 I've fled to lead you to the flag. 19 00:01:10,020 --> 00:01:11,400 But in the United States of America. 20 00:01:12,100 --> 00:01:13,880 And to the Republic, we have to stand. 21 00:01:14,740 --> 00:01:15,620 One thing. 22 00:01:16,100 --> 00:01:16,700 On the ground. 23 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:22,480 Thank you. 24 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:22,660 Thank you. 25 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,920 I would say play ball, but there is no ball. 26 00:01:24,940 --> 00:01:25,840 There's no ball. 27 00:01:26,020 --> 00:01:29,140 There's not a certain kind of thing. 28 00:01:29,140 --> 00:01:35,400 Or these work needs, especially putting things to day. 29 00:01:35,940 --> 00:01:45,500 Well, either 1.3 orders of the day, are there any suggestions to change the sequencing of the agenda item on today's agenda? 30 00:01:49,180 --> 00:02:02,480 Okay, hearing none. Time open for public comment or any item not to the agenda. Are there any public who is just speak to the board about items not alone today's agenda? 31 00:02:03,220 --> 00:02:11,740 Yes, I have somebody by the name of Hasi and the creeks that has raised their hand, but they may be asking for item. 32 00:02:12,180 --> 00:02:15,740 Yeah, I think that they are there on the agenda. 33 00:02:15,740 --> 00:02:24,020 Thank you. Thank you. Yes. In the end of the year. So at the end, I think seeing your apartment, 34 00:02:26,580 --> 00:02:34,560 your item is on our agenda. So we'll wait until that time to call you for your comments to 35 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:44,380 this board. And if there's no one else which is big to this board, I had the board 36 00:02:44,380 --> 00:02:55,700 or report on the status of the investigation related to the claims followed by a 37 00:02:55,700 --> 00:03:02,340 Reverend Moore. As I reported last time, I received the report and today my report is that 38 00:03:02,340 --> 00:03:19,460 I've finished reviewing the report for completeness and consistency with spoke of work and I will work with the incoming chair on the next step of distributing the findings to our board members. 39 00:03:19,460 --> 00:03:32,120 With that report, we'll move on to turn certain items at the 2.1 direction of board chair and vice chair for year 2021. 40 00:03:33,260 --> 00:03:42,380 So at this time, I'd like to open nomination for board chair of year 2021. 41 00:03:42,860 --> 00:03:45,220 Through the current shall nominate director Estamera. 42 00:03:46,660 --> 00:03:47,020 Thank you, sir. 43 00:03:47,020 --> 00:03:50,460 Okay, are there any other nomination, 44 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,720 here and none, I will close the nomination. 45 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,100 Michelle, do we do a local vote? 46 00:03:59,460 --> 00:03:59,920 Yes, yes. 47 00:04:00,060 --> 00:04:02,140 Okay, that's a do a local vote. 48 00:04:05,860 --> 00:04:06,760 Director, Mr. Mayor. 49 00:04:07,420 --> 00:04:08,000 Director Keegan. 50 00:04:09,260 --> 00:04:09,420 Hi. 51 00:04:10,180 --> 00:04:10,840 Director Cremis. 52 00:04:12,820 --> 00:04:13,440 Director Leva. 53 00:04:14,060 --> 00:04:14,360 Yes. 54 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:15,340 Director Santa. 55 00:04:15,460 --> 00:04:15,780 Yes. 56 00:04:16,300 --> 00:04:16,660 Director Verale. 57 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:17,620 Yes. 58 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:18,960 Yes. 59 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:20,460 Okay. 60 00:04:20,460 --> 00:04:24,200 I'll go to your lunches and I can leave it to you. 61 00:04:24,220 --> 00:04:24,880 Oh thank you. 62 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:25,720 For the last year. 63 00:04:25,900 --> 00:04:26,900 Oh you did the work. 64 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,340 Election and this is my day. 65 00:04:31,060 --> 00:04:32,140 That's what you said. 66 00:04:32,260 --> 00:04:35,600 That's what you said. 67 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,660 That's what you said. 68 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:40,780 Okay. 69 00:04:42,140 --> 00:04:43,200 All right. 70 00:04:45,060 --> 00:04:45,700 Thank you very much. 71 00:04:45,780 --> 00:04:49,120 We'll run along to the lecture of the vice chair. 72 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:50,040 Does the motion? 73 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,360 most of the director of Kremlin. 74 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,540 There is the Santos Mission for us. 75 00:04:54,540 --> 00:04:55,380 Let's look at that. 76 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,200 Okay, second and then all the way around. 77 00:04:59,120 --> 00:04:59,920 Have a roll call, please. 78 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,000 Okay. 79 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,060 Election and this is my day. 80 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,400 That's what you said. 81 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:06,780 That's just a question. 82 00:05:08,840 --> 00:05:10,040 That's it. 83 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,000 Cheers, as well. 84 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:19,260 Right, thank you very much. 85 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,500 Move right along to the election of the vice chair, the motion. 86 00:05:24,180 --> 00:05:27,780 Most of the director of the Senate, there's the council's motion for. 87 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,240 I'll talk about it. 88 00:05:29,780 --> 00:05:31,860 Okay, second and then all the way around. 89 00:05:31,860 --> 00:05:35,460 Do you have a roll call, please, men, men, sir? 90 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:37,940 Do you want to show you? 91 00:05:38,620 --> 00:05:39,660 Yes, Dr. Keegan. 92 00:05:40,980 --> 00:05:41,580 Dr. Kremlin? 93 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:42,360 Yes. 94 00:05:42,860 --> 00:05:43,460 Dr. Zag. 95 00:05:43,900 --> 00:05:44,140 Yes. 96 00:05:44,780 --> 00:05:45,400 What's your sentence? 97 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:45,880 Yes. 98 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:46,620 Dr. Groll. 99 00:05:47,140 --> 00:05:47,500 Yes. 100 00:05:47,860 --> 00:05:48,280 Aristotle. 101 00:05:50,740 --> 00:05:51,340 Great. 102 00:05:54,900 --> 00:05:57,880 Do you know Mr. Rick the Kremlin by chair this year? 103 00:05:59,420 --> 00:06:14,280 We'll run along to, since we have, I had a 10 page, a 10 page speech to make, I'm sorry to the chair, but because of the short agenda that we have, 104 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:25,160 where we have every item that we didn't do last year, we'll run along to the next item to point to recognition of our outgoing chair. 105 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:31,520 And we'll start with CEO and we'll launch the board our board members. 106 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:37,980 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Rick, calendar CEO, it's definitely been a pleasure to serve 107 00:06:37,980 --> 00:06:43,740 under the chair, Shua. It's always good to have someone when you have a project manager 108 00:06:43,740 --> 00:06:49,820 as well as a chair. So it's been very organized and so it's been nothing but simple 109 00:06:49,820 --> 00:06:55,140 simplicity as well as very good organization moving forward. There's a very challenging 110 00:06:55,140 --> 00:07:00,500 year if you think how we've had to serve during COVID, how we've how she had to lead on measure 111 00:07:00,500 --> 00:07:06,800 S as well as leading for a new CEO and I'm happy to be in the position I am and thankful 112 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:12,520 to be able to serve underneath her as well as being able to serve under all that's going 113 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,740 on in the nation's capital. 114 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,500 So it's definitely been a pleasure and I know that staff does, so Mr. Chairman, if you allow 115 00:07:19,500 --> 00:07:23,660 staff does have a short video they'd like to show them they'd like to turn it back over 116 00:07:23,660 --> 00:07:24,220 to you. 117 00:07:24,220 --> 00:07:27,420 Absolutely. Thanks for it. 118 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:58,220 I'm sure it is then staff's pleasure to serve underneath you and to work with you. 119 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,140 Thank you for everything. 120 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:05,160 All right, what's the matter? Okay, let's go right down the line. 121 00:10:05,340 --> 00:10:07,380 A little way to start. All right, Mr. Wood. 122 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:16,920 Thank you very much. So, Director Swayer, just want to thank you very much for your leadership, your council, your mentorship, 123 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:25,000 serving with you on various committees, listening to your leadership style and learning. 124 00:10:25,180 --> 00:10:29,120 Learning from you through your experience that you've had with a water district. 125 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:44,420 way before you were on the board. And you're a very unique way of handling some reticate board members that can really be like a wild patch of 126 00:10:44,420 --> 00:10:50,140 Well, let's just say decision makers. You've done a very excellent job, and I just want to make sure that that's heard. 127 00:10:50,140 --> 00:10:56,640 And I think I particularly appreciate your style, your wisdom, your strength, and I wish 128 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,760 you well, and I look forward to continuing working with you this year. 129 00:11:01,900 --> 00:11:02,780 Thank you. 130 00:11:03,580 --> 00:11:05,720 I would like to give you. 131 00:11:06,260 --> 00:11:07,200 Thank you. 132 00:11:07,420 --> 00:11:14,840 You know, I know that Nye doesn't like a lot of attention being paid to her, and so this is probably 133 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,960 all very embarrassing for you Nye, but I want to thank you for the bottom of my heart 134 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:24,720 for your continued dedication and service to Valley Water. 135 00:11:25,980 --> 00:11:31,660 You spent many years working as a staffer and you've spent eight more years, 136 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:37,340 plus four more to come. I do in your very best for the community and it's not easy. 137 00:11:38,140 --> 00:11:42,740 I know that this last year in particular has been very difficult for a whole variety of reasons, 138 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:53,260 But your strong ethical standards and your devotion to the organization and to the community 139 00:11:53,260 --> 00:11:54,520 are to be commended. 140 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:55,920 So, thank you. 141 00:11:56,180 --> 00:11:56,580 Thank you. 142 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:57,880 Your sense? 143 00:11:58,260 --> 00:11:58,540 Yes. 144 00:11:58,660 --> 00:11:59,620 Thank you, Mr. Chair. 145 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:04,260 It's a pleasure to address outgoing and share of you. 146 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:10,440 When you see the video, the refreshment year, me, but all the different topics we had, 147 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:18,520 plus all the challenges of C-19. The very challenge in your new CEO, outgoing CEO, 148 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:24,940 policies, challenges and environment, floods, so many issues, so many legal issues. 149 00:12:25,300 --> 00:12:29,860 But the only I did admire it all the time, and now I would say it all the time, I'm going to 150 00:12:29,860 --> 00:12:35,980 get the job done no matter what it is, and she always never rested, so she went home, came back 151 00:12:35,980 --> 00:12:41,160 and address the issues. So with that, I'm much appreciation. Thank you for the job. 152 00:12:41,660 --> 00:12:42,160 Thank you. 153 00:12:43,340 --> 00:12:44,120 The work that is up? 154 00:12:47,620 --> 00:12:49,620 You're on me a drink for a lot. 155 00:12:53,190 --> 00:12:57,130 I keep hitting the world, but now when I was going out as chair, 156 00:12:57,450 --> 00:13:02,470 I thank you for being my right hand during my chairmanship. 157 00:13:03,210 --> 00:13:07,250 And at that time having gone through a year with you, 158 00:13:07,250 --> 00:13:11,510 I had no doubt the kind of leader you would be when it was your turn 159 00:13:11,510 --> 00:13:13,050 to be chaired. 160 00:13:13,490 --> 00:13:16,650 I think your leadership through all of what we've 161 00:13:16,650 --> 00:13:20,170 been through this year reminds me of Diane Feinstein, 162 00:13:20,310 --> 00:13:23,070 when she had to take over suddenly to be mayor. 163 00:13:23,550 --> 00:13:27,890 It's a true leader who can step into numerous crises 164 00:13:28,370 --> 00:13:32,350 and finally strengthen the courage to do it fairly 165 00:13:32,350 --> 00:13:35,810 equitably and without panic. 166 00:13:36,350 --> 00:13:38,930 I think that you had numerous challenges 167 00:13:38,930 --> 00:13:43,210 that none of us really would have expected this time last year. 168 00:13:43,870 --> 00:13:46,390 So I want to thank you for your leadership, 169 00:13:46,970 --> 00:13:51,650 where you're always willing to make sure that every board member 170 00:13:51,650 --> 00:13:53,310 was heard. 171 00:13:53,850 --> 00:13:59,090 And I think that, in fact, I know that you are so anxious, 172 00:13:59,990 --> 00:14:01,230 to have turned this over to Tony. 173 00:14:02,110 --> 00:14:06,170 And that you can go back to doing the business of the district, 174 00:14:06,490 --> 00:14:07,810 which I know is your first love. 175 00:14:07,810 --> 00:14:11,470 So again, thanks for everything you've done this year, Nye. 176 00:14:11,830 --> 00:14:12,590 Thank you. 177 00:14:14,450 --> 00:14:15,090 Thank you. 178 00:14:17,970 --> 00:14:23,410 It's usually hard to be seven, be district seven, because everyone said it before. 179 00:14:24,970 --> 00:14:28,690 You know, like everyone said, tough year, exemplary, 180 00:14:32,950 --> 00:14:37,170 performance, and it reminds me of some of the things that I really appreciate you for. 181 00:14:37,170 --> 00:14:42,870 Like number one, you know, really good at process before politics and fairness and open-minded. 182 00:14:43,590 --> 00:14:48,610 I was kind of getting to the core of what's right, I remember I was reminded of that yesterday 183 00:14:48,610 --> 00:14:55,770 after a conversation we had dealing with sensitive personnel matters, listening to craziness 184 00:14:55,770 --> 00:14:59,890 including my own being thoughtful, especially during weather. 185 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,640 Thank you for your service. Thank you. 186 00:15:04,660 --> 00:15:21,040 And I'll just say my two cents, you know, when we first elected you, are you beginning, I remember I mentioned how my own experience was that at the beginning of the year, you never really know what's going to happen. 187 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:36,520 And then all of a sudden, Scott Falls, trying to stuff falls on you, you never, not only you but nobody's ever contemplated it, like COVID and all the other stuff that we're talking about. 188 00:15:36,820 --> 00:15:48,760 And it's just amazing that, and unfortunately, that that did happen that you, you were caught by a lot of different catastrophes, a lot of surprises. 189 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:56,440 My hats off to you because you stood up to every single one and believe me it's been a pleasure for me. 190 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:02,420 I've served at Vice Chair three times and it's been a pleasure for me to work with you. 191 00:16:02,460 --> 00:16:03,420 You're very collaborative. 192 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:11,320 You're a person that exhibits the positive news and you provided us tremendously to ship. 193 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,980 And I had to talk to you, I thank you very much for having 194 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,160 served, and having worked with me as a vice chair. 195 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,320 I did learn a lot. 196 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,560 A lot of times people say that, you know, 197 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,300 although you get the less you learn, but that's not true. 198 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:33,120 You taught me a lot also, and I appreciate that, thank you. 199 00:16:33,300 --> 00:16:34,420 Thank you. 200 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:36,660 Can I have 30 seconds? 201 00:16:36,660 --> 00:16:38,180 Yes, I'm like, you have it. 202 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:38,760 OK. 203 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,900 There's a why I want to thank all my colleagues, kind words. 204 00:16:45,460 --> 00:16:58,480 I really hope I've achieved your words expressed and as Barbara said that I'm not very comfortable with lots of attention on me. 205 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:27,580 I just want to take this opportunity first of all to thank all of all my colleagues working together and as I said that many times with different people that I see the role of the chair as the coordinator to support the boards overall function and I hope I did that and I also want to thank the CEO and all the staff that's working together with the CEO. 206 00:17:27,580 --> 00:17:39,440 in supporting my process for the board, trying to streamline many of the board's activities. 207 00:17:40,220 --> 00:17:47,760 So thank you very much, and I look forward to a better year under the leadership of Chair Asmera. 208 00:17:48,300 --> 00:17:48,860 Thank you everybody. 209 00:17:50,660 --> 00:17:51,860 Thank you, nice. 210 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:58,400 We'll move right along to the ceremonial swearing-in of our directors, the workforce, 211 00:17:58,580 --> 00:17:59,160 re-election. 212 00:18:00,060 --> 00:18:01,040 Director Keegan. 213 00:18:01,620 --> 00:18:02,420 Director Santos. 214 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:04,240 Director Shua. 215 00:18:08,030 --> 00:18:09,810 Thank you, Mr. Chair. 216 00:18:10,270 --> 00:18:14,510 If you allow me to, I would like to do the ceremony of falling in, swearing in 217 00:18:14,510 --> 00:18:15,410 of the three directors. 218 00:18:15,890 --> 00:18:20,630 Just for the record, I want to let everybody know that we did the official swearing in 219 00:18:20,630 --> 00:18:23,830 on December 4th, via Zoom. 220 00:18:24,130 --> 00:18:26,590 So this one is ceremonial so that the public can see it. 221 00:18:27,010 --> 00:18:28,950 So I'm going to start with a Director Keegan, 222 00:18:29,050 --> 00:18:34,450 Director Keegan, if you would stand and raise your right hand, 223 00:18:35,050 --> 00:18:36,970 unmute yourself, I guess, too. 224 00:18:38,310 --> 00:18:41,070 Every P.D. after me, I would appreciate it. 225 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,440 Raise your right hand. 226 00:18:47,340 --> 00:18:48,940 I, Barbara Keegan. 227 00:18:49,380 --> 00:18:50,260 I, Barbara Keegan. 228 00:18:50,260 --> 00:18:52,530 Do you suddenly swear or affirm? 229 00:18:53,460 --> 00:18:54,700 Do you solemnly swear? 230 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:02,610 that I will support and defend that I will support and defend the cost of tuition of the United States 231 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:12,320 the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of California and the Constitution of the State of California 232 00:19:12,770 --> 00:19:19,360 Against all enemies for an end domestic against all enemies for an end domestic 233 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:12,060 The constitution of the United States, the constitution of the state of California, and the constitution of the state of California. 234 00:20:12,060 --> 00:20:20,880 that I take this obligation freely, that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation, 235 00:20:21,580 --> 00:20:27,240 without any mental reservation, or purpose of evasion, or purpose of evasion, 236 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:35,720 and that I will well and faithfully, and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties I'm about to enter. 237 00:20:36,260 --> 00:20:39,900 Discharge the duties I am about to enter. 238 00:20:39,900 --> 00:20:41,120 Congratulations. 239 00:20:41,820 --> 00:20:46,900 These words have never meant more to me than in our recent history. Thank you. 240 00:20:47,740 --> 00:20:48,420 Congratulations. 241 00:20:50,700 --> 00:20:51,840 I will ask. 242 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,040 What on in between? 243 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,280 Let me ask because as you mentioned, 244 00:20:57,460 --> 00:21:01,260 theoretically, these are very important times. 245 00:21:01,660 --> 00:21:08,020 I want to provide an opportunity for us to address our constituents after we take the oath. 246 00:21:08,020 --> 00:21:13,180 So if you like a few words, we certainly welcome it and I'll do that with the other directors. 247 00:21:14,340 --> 00:21:21,760 Thank you very much. I posted on Facebook after Michelle swore me in back in December. 248 00:21:22,540 --> 00:21:29,780 And I said that the words had a special meaning to me given everything that we experienced back in 2020. 249 00:21:29,780 --> 00:21:44,020 Well, last week we experienced something, even worse, we experienced situations where in particular elected officials did not live up to their responsibility, some of them to protect and defend the constitution. 250 00:21:45,700 --> 00:21:53,800 It's, it's very important that we take the oath of office seriously and I know that I do and I know that all my colleagues do as well. 251 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:59,720 and in times like this, it's very poignant and meaningful to take that out. Thank you. 252 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,840 Thank you, David, the key to the third sentence. 253 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:12,790 Okay. Director Santas, the raise your right hand and repeat after me. 254 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,820 I Richard Santas. Hi, Richard Santas. Do you solemnly swear or affirm? 255 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,380 You solemnly swear or affirm. That I will support and defend. 256 00:22:22,500 --> 00:22:26,160 And I'm a supporting defendant. The Constitution of the United States. 257 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:30,140 The constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the state of California. 258 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,780 Against all enemies foreignand domestic. 259 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,700 That I bear true faith and allegiance 260 00:22:41,260 --> 00:22:46,160 To the constitution of the United States for the constitution of the United States. 261 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,040 the Constitution of the State of California. 262 00:22:48,140 --> 00:22:49,940 The Constitution of the State of California. 263 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,560 That I take this obligation freely. 264 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,300 I take this obligation freely. 265 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,580 Without any mental reservation. 266 00:22:56,700 --> 00:22:58,140 Without any mental reservation. 267 00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:59,840 Or purpose of evasion. 268 00:22:59,860 --> 00:23:01,200 Or purpose of evasion. 269 00:23:01,380 --> 00:23:04,620 And that I will well and faithfully. 270 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:05,920 I'm well and faithfully. 271 00:23:05,980 --> 00:23:08,360 This charge the duties about. 272 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,680 Am I am about to enter? 273 00:23:11,540 --> 00:23:13,600 This charge the duties I am about to enter. 274 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:18,600 to do these I'm about to do. Congratulations and welcome for another four years. 275 00:23:20,260 --> 00:23:24,600 Thank you. Thank you. And if you'd like a few words, 276 00:23:25,380 --> 00:23:30,760 I've just been very blessed. There are a lot of good support. The constituents that I serve 277 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:36,820 all around with support and make all meetings. I love what I do. It's a labor of love. I enjoy what I do every day. 278 00:23:36,820 --> 00:23:41,760 I have a purpose, not get you doing it, especially today in means even more. 279 00:23:42,380 --> 00:23:47,540 And I have served this country by election, the arm of services, fire service. 280 00:23:47,780 --> 00:23:50,780 It's just been a great career on looking forward to the next forward. 281 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:51,840 Thank you. 282 00:23:52,120 --> 00:23:52,860 Thank you, sir. 283 00:23:53,580 --> 00:23:53,940 All right. 284 00:23:54,420 --> 00:23:55,160 Thank you. 285 00:23:55,460 --> 00:23:56,240 Thank you, sir. 286 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:56,460 Okay. 287 00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:58,840 Camera. 288 00:23:59,080 --> 00:23:59,460 It's a camera. 289 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:00,740 It's a camera. 290 00:24:01,300 --> 00:24:03,200 It's a camera. 291 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,840 Okay, right here, right hand and repeat after me, I'm not sure. 292 00:24:10,300 --> 00:24:11,120 I'm not sure. 293 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,320 Do solemnly swear or affirm. 294 00:24:13,540 --> 00:24:17,700 Do solemnly swear or affirm that I will support and defend. 295 00:24:18,020 --> 00:24:24,340 I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States, the Constitution of the United States, 296 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:29,620 and the Constitution of the State of California, and the Constitution of the State of California, 297 00:24:29,900 --> 00:24:32,440 against all enemies foreign and domestic. 298 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,980 against all enemies for the End Domestic. 299 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:43,720 That I bear true faith and allegiance and I bear true faith and allegiance to the Constitution of the United States, 300 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:50,940 to the Constitution of the State of California and the Constitution of the State of California. 301 00:24:51,300 --> 00:24:57,560 That I take this obligation freely and that take this obligation freely without any mental reservation, 302 00:24:58,300 --> 00:24:59,880 without any mental reservation. 303 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:06,400 Please fully discharge the duties. I'm about to enter, discharge the duty and about to enter. 304 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,660 Congratulations. Thank you. Congratulations. 305 00:25:10,500 --> 00:25:12,000 Thank you. 306 00:25:12,700 --> 00:25:13,880 And welcome back. 307 00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:15,380 A few words, Derek? 308 00:25:17,140 --> 00:25:29,980 Yeah. Yeah. Usually, I mean, I don't make public comment about many things. 309 00:25:29,980 --> 00:25:42,000 things, but what happened last week, I think it's so important for all of us, particularly for 310 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:53,280 me that I am a first generation immigrant to this country. I made my decision when I was in 311 00:25:53,280 --> 00:26:00,940 doubt to stay in this country because I believe the system and then I believe the opportunity 312 00:26:00,940 --> 00:26:09,780 and I believe everything that's offered by this country. I decided that this is the place 313 00:26:09,780 --> 00:26:15,180 I do have a family and raise my children in this environment. 314 00:26:20,550 --> 00:26:22,930 So what happened last week was 315 00:26:22,930 --> 00:26:36,010 I just want to think about it, I feel so emotional that I feel like crying, but I think 316 00:26:36,810 --> 00:26:47,370 no matter what that all of us working together and the foundation is here, things will 317 00:26:47,370 --> 00:26:55,730 better. I look forward to a better year. I know we'll have a better year. So I 318 00:26:55,730 --> 00:27:05,210 do not have to keep in my sense because this is a really hard for me, but just 319 00:27:06,590 --> 00:27:11,750 which make us to take our job even more seriously. Okay, thank you. 320 00:27:18,270 --> 00:27:19,790 Thank you, 321 00:27:19,790 --> 00:27:26,030 of data, draft water sheds, and water utility five of the operations that make this plan. 322 00:27:26,730 --> 00:27:27,130 Melody? 323 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:30,860 Actually, I'll take this one. 324 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:31,500 Good afternoon. 325 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,740 Chairs, Remira, members of the Board. 326 00:27:33,820 --> 00:27:34,620 I'm Erin Baker. 327 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,220 I am the Business Support and Asset Management Unit Manager. 328 00:27:39,260 --> 00:27:44,360 And I do have a brief presentation on our draft water sheds and water utility five-year 329 00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:46,440 operations and maintenance plans. 330 00:27:46,820 --> 00:27:51,020 If the board would like me to proceed with that, and other ways, I'm also happy 331 00:27:51,020 --> 00:27:52,900 to answer questions on the item. 332 00:27:56,850 --> 00:27:58,430 Okay, I guess I'll go ahead. 333 00:27:58,910 --> 00:28:02,190 So this year, both plans are done out of the asset management unit. 334 00:28:03,170 --> 00:28:05,430 We've made some progress in aligning the two plans, 335 00:28:05,710 --> 00:28:07,290 but we hope to continue to make improvements 336 00:28:08,010 --> 00:28:09,650 as we move forward in the future. 337 00:28:10,130 --> 00:28:12,950 So I'll start with just some brief background information 338 00:28:12,950 --> 00:28:16,650 and then I'll give a brief overview of each plan. 339 00:28:18,510 --> 00:28:21,210 So the plans have two key purposes. 340 00:28:21,210 --> 00:28:36,510 One is to identify resources for operations and maintenance activities and this is closely related to our operations project budgeting process and then the second is to identify asset renewals and this is really related to our asset management planning process 341 00:28:38,370 --> 00:28:51,930 So this is just an overview of the O&M activities that are included in our O&M forecasts and the plans and also these are activities that are typically budgeted in our operations projects 342 00:28:55,470 --> 00:29:05,390 For asset renewals, the two plans are a little different, so for water utility, we've been planning our renewal activities for many years as part of our asset management planning program. 343 00:29:06,930 --> 00:29:16,810 So we do have a five year forecast, and these are projects that are typically managed by maintenance staff and budgeted in one of our six water utility small capital improvement projects. 344 00:29:17,230 --> 00:29:22,030 So these forecasts really kind of help define the scope and budget of those small cap projects. 345 00:29:23,030 --> 00:29:28,670 For water sheds, we don't have a five year forecast this year and past years or last year. 346 00:29:29,090 --> 00:29:35,350 The plan did include a rough estimate of potential renewal work as backlog or deferred maintenance. 347 00:29:35,810 --> 00:29:39,590 We took the cost of those costs out of the forecast this year for a couple of reasons. 348 00:29:39,990 --> 00:29:43,390 So one, we're starting a new strategic planning effort. 349 00:29:43,690 --> 00:29:51,470 And that's being done under a new safe clean water project F-8 sustainable creek infrastructure for continued public safety. 350 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:08,660 Let's identify the timing and the costs of specific projects. And also, if that work is operations, or if it's capital. 351 00:30:10,220 --> 00:30:17,600 And then also, another challenge with our watersheds forecasts is we do have annual storms that come through and can change conditions. 352 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:26,980 For example, in 2017 when a storm badly damaged a trail on Stevens Creek, and we have to then refocus resources and priorities. 353 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:35,720 So it can be challenging to do a forecast. However, we hope the strategic planning will help us better manage those shifting priorities in the future. 354 00:30:36,340 --> 00:30:41,240 So our hope is with next year's plan and future plans will have a little bit better of a forecast. 355 00:30:42,900 --> 00:30:55,340 So moving into just a real brief overview of the Water Sheds draft plan, so this is a summary of the funded and unfunded needs requests for the Water Sheds O&M division for the next five years. 356 00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:10,300 As compared to last year's plans, the unfunded needs have significantly decreased, so that's for a few reasons, one safe clean water provided additional funding for veg management and stream maintenance work. 357 00:31:10,300 --> 00:31:16,220 Also, as I just explained, we removed some of those backlog or deferred maintenance costs from the forecasts. 358 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:28,440 So that 1.2 million unfunded need would provide for contractor support for some tree removal work that was recently permitted for fiscal year 22 and 23. 359 00:31:32,710 --> 00:31:40,170 This is an overview of the strategic planning effort that I mentioned, which is sort of again in lieu of having a asset renewal forecast. 360 00:31:40,170 --> 00:31:44,390 So again, this is being done under a New Safe Clean Water Project F8. 361 00:31:44,710 --> 00:31:47,710 And the steps we'll follow in that project are shown here. 362 00:31:48,130 --> 00:31:54,770 So our goal with this effort really is to provide specific projects with refined costs and timing. 363 00:31:55,070 --> 00:32:01,210 And also to identify if the work would be done as capital, small capital, or operations projects. 364 00:32:01,930 --> 00:32:06,870 So really we're trying to find the best strategy for managing problem areas, 365 00:32:06,870 --> 00:32:13,190 whether it's continued maintenance or a more holistic capital project for areas where ongoing 366 00:32:13,190 --> 00:32:18,550 maintenance maybe isn't addressing the root cause of the problem. And then we're also trying 367 00:32:18,550 --> 00:32:23,690 to ensure that we're maintaining any past improvements to the level of flood protection that 368 00:32:23,690 --> 00:32:29,110 they were designed for. We do have a very high level estimate for the backlog asset renewal work 369 00:32:29,110 --> 00:32:34,630 and that's what was included in last year's O&M plan and that was about $100 million over the next 370 00:32:34,630 --> 00:32:44,490 But again, through this effort, we'll be working to refine that estimate and it's also important to mention that this type of work is going to continue in the future. 371 00:32:44,810 --> 00:32:50,990 So even after we get through the backlog of maintenance work, we have to continue to maintain our infrastructure. 372 00:32:51,430 --> 00:32:55,550 So we will have ongoing costs once we get through that backlog. 373 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,380 Moving on to our water utility plan. 374 00:33:00,660 --> 00:33:06,360 So this is a summary of the funded and unfunded need request for the raw water and treated 375 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,900 water division for the next five years. 376 00:33:09,460 --> 00:33:15,360 The unfunded resources shown here would provide for additional full-time support for lab operations, 377 00:33:16,380 --> 00:33:25,720 as well as some contractor or temp support for untreated water untreated surface water program planning and implementing new water rights measurement methods. 378 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:31,440 and then just to note that other unfunded needs have and may still come up through the budget 379 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,580 process and will be evaluated through the budget process. 380 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,720 Again, for water utility, we have our 381 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:44,060 maintenance work planning process that's been in place for several years. So this is a forecast 382 00:33:44,060 --> 00:33:50,350 of the planned asset renewal project scheduled for the next five fiscal years. For fiscal year, 383 00:33:50,350 --> 00:33:56,770 22, we have identified about $5 million of work, and it's 77 projects. 384 00:33:56,930 --> 00:34:01,890 Some of those significant projects are penetrant water treatment plant, Clearwell, Corrosion 385 00:34:01,890 --> 00:34:07,610 Repair, some ozone generator, shell rebuilds a penitentian sanatrisa, and then some pump 386 00:34:07,610 --> 00:34:13,110 rebuilds a coyote pumping plant, and the full list of projects will be in the plant. 387 00:34:13,810 --> 00:34:20,030 And again, these projects are typically budgeted in one of our small, water utility, small 388 00:34:20,030 --> 00:34:36,090 projects. So that is all I have. We will finalize the two plans once the board adopts the budget for fiscal year 22 and provide the plans to the board at that time. So I am happy to answer any questions on this item. 389 00:34:36,090 --> 00:34:40,270 Thank you Aaron. Questions? Yes. 390 00:34:42,630 --> 00:34:48,130 Aaron, this is a great work. These plants are getting better and better every year. 391 00:34:48,530 --> 00:34:58,270 So really excited about it. This is one quick question, so these unfunded need for the upcoming fiscal year. 392 00:34:58,450 --> 00:34:59,630 Is it time for that? 393 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,000 room, third. 394 00:35:02,340 --> 00:35:02,820 There's a motion. 395 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,320 We'll move right along then to 2.5. 396 00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:11,640 The Chamber of Reservoir, expansion, project preliminary, alternative analysis. 397 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,600 This is an action item that we'll start with, Chris, receipts. 398 00:35:17,220 --> 00:35:17,800 Good afternoon, Chair. 399 00:35:17,980 --> 00:35:19,940 I'll start with Chris. 400 00:35:20,060 --> 00:35:21,340 Good afternoon, Chair. 401 00:35:21,340 --> 00:35:23,340 I'll start with Chris. 402 00:35:23,340 --> 00:35:27,940 I'll start with Chris. 403 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,420 Chris, receipts. 404 00:35:29,580 --> 00:35:29,980 Chair, I'll start with. 405 00:35:29,980 --> 00:35:35,660 project. We've been working staff has been working with the CIP committee on additional points 406 00:35:35,660 --> 00:35:41,700 of board engagement in our planning process. Currently, our process states that we come to 407 00:35:41,700 --> 00:35:46,200 the board when the planning study report has been completed. We are revising that process 408 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,960 to have a earlier engagement right now. We have completed our feasible alternatives analysis 409 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:56,100 and have a presentation ready for your comments. Should you so choose? 410 00:36:01,220 --> 00:36:11,660 I will turn the mic over to Ryan McCartner to take the Chaco project to deliver unit manager and he will go through the alternatives analysis and cost update on the project. 411 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:12,180 Thank you, 412 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:14,440 Chris. 413 00:36:14,620 --> 00:36:14,840 All right. 414 00:36:14,860 --> 00:36:15,560 Thank you, Chris. 415 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,720 Good afternoon to the chair and the board and attendees meeting. 416 00:36:20,460 --> 00:36:20,640 Excuse me. 417 00:36:20,860 --> 00:36:24,420 One second to bring up the PowerPoint presentation here. 418 00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:40,480 Anybody see that there? 419 00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:42,280 Okay, 420 00:36:51,460 --> 00:36:56,480 I wasn't showing up on my windows there technical difficulties here. 421 00:36:56,660 --> 00:36:57,540 All right, here we go. 422 00:37:07,670 --> 00:37:08,330 So that's the delay. 423 00:37:09,030 --> 00:37:12,690 Okay, the focus of this presentation is on the five project alternatives. 424 00:37:13,050 --> 00:37:18,350 The team has been developing for the environmental impact assessment for the draft EIRs 425 00:37:18,350 --> 00:37:20,570 that will be released at the end of 2021. 426 00:37:21,830 --> 00:37:24,030 And before I dive in to the alternatives, 427 00:37:24,050 --> 00:37:28,630 I'd like to quickly review some of the background info on the project and the recent 428 00:37:28,630 --> 00:37:30,390 costing freezes that we presented. 429 00:37:32,910 --> 00:37:35,770 So Valley Water has two partners on the project currently 430 00:37:35,770 --> 00:37:38,930 that the Chaco pass water district that currently owns an 431 00:37:38,930 --> 00:37:40,870 operate the existing Chaco reservoir. 432 00:37:41,710 --> 00:37:45,010 And the San Benito County Water District are neighbor to the south 433 00:37:45,010 --> 00:37:48,510 that also receives water supply from San Luis Reservoir 434 00:37:48,510 --> 00:37:50,170 and that the Chaco conduit. 435 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,820 The project is located southeast in Southeast San Clara County 436 00:37:56,820 --> 00:37:59,840 about 30-minute drive east of Gilroy 437 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,720 situated in between Henry Co. State Park and Pacheco State Park. 438 00:38:06,220 --> 00:38:07,380 And this was our 439 00:38:07,380 --> 00:38:14,080 what's the application concept that was developed in 2017 that included a approximately 300 foot 440 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:21,280 high dam, an Earthville dam at the downstream site that made a 140,000 acre foot reservoir. 441 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:29,960 The original spillway was shown on the west debutment here in the design and the sloping intake 442 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:35,120 was shown here along with to intake and outlet works coming through a pump station here to deliver 443 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:42,520 water to and from the Chaco conduit. Those are original concept back in 2017. It also included 444 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,800 roadways and other pertances to build the project. 445 00:38:48,460 --> 00:38:50,780 So diving into the cost of the Smiths here, 446 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:58,060 the 2017 project did have a price tag of $969 million, which was in 2015 dollars, which was the 447 00:38:58,060 --> 00:39:05,080 requirement for the with the application. In 2019, the project costs was estimated to include 448 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:13,880 consultant costs and adjusted for inflation to 1.3 billion. And in 2020, sorry for their 449 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:19,760 questions. Sorry, I heard something. As presented, the recent water storage 450 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:25,240 mandatory committee in 2020, the construction cost estimate increases the project that's 451 00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:27,960 $2.5 billion with inflation considered. 452 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,940 So the factors contributed to that $1 billion construction cost increased. 453 00:39:35,740 --> 00:39:38,800 The geotechnical investigations were completed in 2020, 454 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,700 and the findings were applied to the design assumptions, 455 00:39:41,940 --> 00:39:43,280 so there are several changes there. 456 00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:44,560 I'm not going to get into them today, 457 00:39:45,220 --> 00:39:48,520 but these accounted for about 35% of the construction cost increase. 458 00:39:49,700 --> 00:39:53,000 Updates to the unit prices and quantities in the estimate itself, 459 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,400 accounted for about 20% of the cost increase. 460 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,980 And other drivers, which were project elements that were not considered or released. 461 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:07,280 The meeting was not considered to be as large in the application cost estimate counted for about 15% of the cost increase. 462 00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:15,040 And then lastly, the contingency assumption and an extended construction schedule account for about 30% of the increase. 463 00:40:19,070 --> 00:40:25,230 So, getting into the alternate answer, we have three different kind of topics of variation between the alternative. 464 00:40:25,230 --> 00:40:32,030 we have two dam site locations we're considering, two reservoir sizes and two different dam types. 465 00:40:32,230 --> 00:40:35,670 So the five alternatives are combinations of these variations. 466 00:40:38,730 --> 00:40:43,410 Just to go through there are two dam site locations we are considering the downstream site, 467 00:40:43,530 --> 00:40:51,210 which was selected for the width of the application concept back in 2017 and the upstream site shown here. 468 00:40:51,210 --> 00:41:07,230 Do you have technical investigations began with the focus on the downstream site in 2019 and in 2020 we completed our investigations of both sites and determine the upstream site has more favorable bedrock and float stability conditions. 469 00:41:09,050 --> 00:41:15,530 Also the geographic setting of the upstream site has a narrower canyon allowing for a shorter length of Dan structure. 470 00:41:18,890 --> 00:41:30,270 One of our project alternatives considers a 96,000 acre foot reservoir versus the 140,000 acre foot that is shown in the other four. 471 00:41:31,070 --> 00:41:39,430 It shows include this in our alternative assessment for comparison purposes, despite a significant reduction in the project benefits based on the reduced capacity. 472 00:41:42,090 --> 00:41:47,250 And we are considering two different dam types in the alternative, the zoned earth build 473 00:41:47,250 --> 00:41:51,990 dam that we are all accustomed to with our current reservoirs and dams with the 474 00:41:51,990 --> 00:41:56,390 have separate, still waste structures and inlet outlet works. 475 00:41:57,230 --> 00:42:02,390 And we're also considering a hard build dam, which is a newer technology similar to a lower 476 00:42:02,390 --> 00:42:07,070 compacted concrete that uses rock materials from the site mixed with cement. 477 00:42:07,690 --> 00:42:12,090 The strength of the hard-filled material can support steeper slopes resulting in a smaller 478 00:42:12,090 --> 00:42:13,230 damp footprint. 479 00:42:15,420 --> 00:42:19,660 The emergency spillway can also be integrated into the hard-filled dam structure, allowing 480 00:42:19,660 --> 00:42:25,340 reservoir overflows to spill directly over the crest of the dam, and the inlet outlet 481 00:42:25,340 --> 00:42:30,320 works can also be built within the structure itself through tunnels and the shaft to collect 482 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,640 the water in and out. 483 00:42:35,130 --> 00:42:37,390 Okay, and then jump into the alternatives here. 484 00:42:37,630 --> 00:42:39,730 This is preliminary alternative one. 485 00:42:40,450 --> 00:42:42,270 This is the same conceptual project 486 00:42:42,270 --> 00:42:44,450 and it was the fabrication from 2017 487 00:42:44,980 --> 00:42:47,270 with some design updates that were made this year 488 00:42:47,270 --> 00:42:48,650 in the feasibility study. 489 00:42:49,570 --> 00:42:51,190 And I'll go over those. 490 00:42:51,510 --> 00:42:54,090 This dam is at the downstream site 491 00:42:54,090 --> 00:42:55,370 and it is an earth filled dam. 492 00:42:56,290 --> 00:42:59,590 This so位 was moved to the east abutment 493 00:42:59,590 --> 00:43:01,210 and shown here with a curve. 494 00:43:01,510 --> 00:43:03,030 And those are pretty drastic change 495 00:43:03,030 --> 00:43:09,590 to accommodate the difficult geotechnical conditions there, and then also the sloping intake that was 496 00:43:09,590 --> 00:43:14,830 once on the east, the button was moved to the west of the button and converted to a 497 00:43:14,830 --> 00:43:21,770 shaft internal with addicts, configuration to allow for the difficult conditions there on the slope. 498 00:43:22,690 --> 00:43:26,030 So this is the $2.5 billion project that we've estimated. 499 00:43:30,970 --> 00:43:36,430 The preliminary alternative number two is the spill-to-downstream site that using the hard-filled 500 00:43:36,430 --> 00:43:41,770 dam technology that I just described, as mentioned this integrates the spillway into the 501 00:43:41,770 --> 00:43:46,290 body of the dam as well as the inlet outlet conveyance works for a hard-to-see in this figure 502 00:43:46,290 --> 00:43:49,570 here, but all those little lines in there are what I'm describing. 503 00:43:51,070 --> 00:43:55,310 And in comparison to the Earth's fill, the amount of ground-observing construction footprint 504 00:43:55,310 --> 00:43:56,570 is greatly reduced. 505 00:43:56,570 --> 00:44:00,790 You could see compared to the previous slide in area there. 506 00:44:01,530 --> 00:44:08,010 And this variation would also reduce the cost of the project by about estimated $330 million. 507 00:44:13,820 --> 00:44:18,560 Okay, I'll turn of number three, this takes the Earthville dam to the upstream site. 508 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:24,400 And by moving the 140,000 acre foot reservoir to the upstream site, 509 00:44:24,540 --> 00:44:29,340 we do encroach into Henry Co at full pool about three quarters of a mile of creature 510 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,340 That's the button for the emergency survey, which is more favorable than what we had at the downstream site. 511 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:17,180 And these just more favorable geotechnical conditions alone allow for reduced cost of about $270 million of savings, as compared to alternative number one. 512 00:45:22,110 --> 00:45:29,330 Alternative number four, this takes the hard-filled dam to the upstream site, so two variations to the original project. 513 00:45:29,330 --> 00:45:35,310 This also encroaches the same amount into Henry Co. Park as described previously and with 514 00:45:35,310 --> 00:45:40,150 these more favorable geotechnical conditions and the smaller construction footprint with 515 00:45:40,150 --> 00:45:45,910 a hard filled dam. This reduces the construction schedule considerably and also the cost 516 00:45:45,910 --> 00:45:52,370 could be about $400 million less than compared to the alternative number one. 517 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:56,840 Our last 518 00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:01,500 alternative here, number five, this is similar to alternative number three with an earth 519 00:46:01,500 --> 00:46:07,240 dam at the upstream site, except that the 96,000 acre foot reservoir does not encroach into 520 00:46:07,240 --> 00:46:12,560 Henry Koch Park. As mentioned before, we did decide it would be beneficial to include a smaller 521 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:19,980 project for comparison purposes. Even though the reservoir is reduced by 32 percent, there's 522 00:46:19,980 --> 00:46:25,720 only a cost savings of about 17 percent when compared to the alternative number one, and a 7 523 00:46:25,720 --> 00:46:30,900 percent savings when compared to alternative three, which is the larger reservoir at the same site 524 00:46:30,900 --> 00:46:32,080 And we're going to do that. 525 00:46:36,270 --> 00:46:36,590 All right. 526 00:46:38,810 --> 00:46:40,150 This is the last slide. 527 00:46:40,470 --> 00:46:43,070 I was going to share just to leave it here if there's any questions. 528 00:46:43,390 --> 00:46:46,070 The summary of the five alternate of the just described. 529 00:46:46,470 --> 00:46:49,350 The columns indicate the damn site location. 530 00:46:50,170 --> 00:46:51,530 They expanded reservoir size. 531 00:46:51,830 --> 00:46:52,790 The damn type. 532 00:46:53,130 --> 00:46:58,630 And then there's some notes here and the estimated cost for each of the alternatives in the far right column. 533 00:46:59,170 --> 00:47:04,950 And just want to point out the green text indicates factors that help improve the score of each alternative. 534 00:47:04,950 --> 00:47:08,950 and the red text are factors that contribute to lower scoring of each alternative. 535 00:47:09,850 --> 00:47:15,810 And my next slide is just a standard question slide, so I can leave it here, or we can 536 00:47:15,810 --> 00:47:16,910 complete the presentation. 537 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,460 Do the chair, I have a question. 538 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:29,400 All right, courses. 539 00:47:30,060 --> 00:47:30,080 Yes. 540 00:47:30,300 --> 00:47:38,200 That was a little bit about your red marked a technical slash permitting challenges. 541 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:43,460 I think in the past we found especially permitting challenges can 542 00:47:43,460 --> 00:47:45,120 and to costs and uncertainty. 543 00:47:45,580 --> 00:47:46,660 Tell us more. 544 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:47,220 If that's okay. 545 00:47:48,820 --> 00:47:50,920 Yeah, so we developed 13 different criteria 546 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,100 to evaluate each alternative. 547 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,640 Some of those different criteria were obviously 548 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,360 permitting challenges and environmental impact, 549 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,820 you know, public perception as well as costs, 550 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,940 you know, technical challenges and certainty, 551 00:48:06,660 --> 00:48:07,580 constructability. 552 00:48:09,020 --> 00:48:12,900 We do anticipate some permitting challenges 553 00:48:12,900 --> 00:48:15,260 So it's the hard fill, especially with DSOD. 554 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,900 We already have started talks and introduced the topic to them. 555 00:48:19,540 --> 00:48:25,780 There aren't any known, hard-filled dams per se in California that they're used to, 556 00:48:26,020 --> 00:48:28,380 although it is pretty similar to a role or compacted concrete. 557 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:33,780 Our team does think that we can present the technical information in order to get an acceptable 558 00:48:33,780 --> 00:48:35,660 permit, but it may take a little time. 559 00:48:37,380 --> 00:48:41,100 And then as far as the encroachment to Henry Coe, which you also see there, I think that's 560 00:48:41,100 --> 00:48:43,800 for you, obviously, that an environmental impact challenge 561 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,100 in public perception. 562 00:48:47,590 --> 00:48:48,430 Say answer your question. 563 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:52,580 Do you want to go ahead? 564 00:48:56,220 --> 00:48:58,770 I'm here on mute. 565 00:48:59,010 --> 00:49:02,730 At the story of the last since COVID, you're on mute. 566 00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:04,030 Yeah, right. 567 00:49:04,330 --> 00:49:07,610 What are these gross of other people's water rights 568 00:49:07,610 --> 00:49:09,830 like the Pichico Pass Water District? 569 00:49:09,910 --> 00:49:13,430 Don't they have 7,000 or 14,000 570 00:49:13,430 --> 00:49:15,850 acre-feet rights ahead of us? 571 00:49:16,630 --> 00:49:17,550 That's correct. 572 00:49:17,550 --> 00:49:24,710 These are, these are gross sizes of the reservoir volume. So there, there is a, yeah, so at 573 00:49:24,710 --> 00:49:32,890 7,250 annual acre foot water, right, that the Jacob past water district holds, as you know, 574 00:49:33,150 --> 00:49:37,850 for may not know, the releases for the fish benefits would account for almost all that on an annual 575 00:49:37,850 --> 00:49:42,730 basis. So there'd be kind of functioning in a dual purpose, since we are releasing that water 576 00:49:42,730 --> 00:49:45,990 down to Jacob Creek, which satisfies the requirement of the water, right? 577 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,000 We have a couple of others as well. Thank you. 578 00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:05,720 Director Kagan? 579 00:50:07,140 --> 00:50:16,100 Thanks. I have a quick question about the geotack, which is one of the big drivers, obviously, in the cost increases. 580 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:31,580 And in fact, I was contacted by a professional engineer in the community who was sort of critical about the fact that we, in their opinion, didn't have a 581 00:50:31,580 --> 00:50:35,260 adequate geotech information when we're first 582 00:50:35,260 --> 00:50:38,040 coping the project. So in the staff report, it wasn't 583 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:42,700 completely clear to me. I think it's time reading it. 584 00:50:42,940 --> 00:50:47,300 What when we were doing the initial construction 585 00:50:47,300 --> 00:50:50,040 cost estimate for the reservoir project, 586 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:56,080 that was in advance of us having actual geotech data, is that correct? 587 00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,620 That is correct. In 2017, there was no sub-surface data. 588 00:51:00,620 --> 00:51:03,640 There was a mapping that was done on the topography, 589 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,600 and I think some ground kind of studies and reconnaissance level, 590 00:51:08,460 --> 00:51:13,660 but there was no drilling done until we started in 2019 and completed in 2020. 591 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,500 And part of the reason is that surrounding the Chaco Passwater District property, 592 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,200 which is the existing reservoir, it's all private property, 593 00:51:21,460 --> 00:51:25,700 so it did take a lot to get access to those properties to fulfill that work. 594 00:51:26,980 --> 00:51:36,100 You know, it seems like this is just a philosophical perspective, I guess, but in the absence 595 00:51:36,100 --> 00:51:41,100 of data, we maybe should be taking sort of a probabilistic approach. 596 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:49,360 I mean, our assumption was that the geotech was going to be okay, or we assumed it was 597 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:53,900 be better than in actuality it was. And so as a result, 598 00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:01,820 you know, we, we didn't, we ended up with 599 00:52:01,820 --> 00:52:09,000 with a low estimate. And I know that it's hard to make decisions based on enough data that we 600 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:15,640 don't have, but it does tend to make our estimate skewed downwards when we take a very optimistic approach. 601 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:16,640 Thank you. 602 00:52:17,500 --> 00:52:18,180 You're welcome. 603 00:52:20,870 --> 00:52:21,950 Thank you for the questions. 604 00:52:22,490 --> 00:52:23,730 Dr. John, I have one. 605 00:52:24,110 --> 00:52:24,170 Yes. 606 00:52:24,710 --> 00:52:24,970 Third. 607 00:52:26,290 --> 00:52:31,690 So can you speak to the incursion into Henry Coe? 608 00:52:31,730 --> 00:52:32,590 What is the area? 609 00:52:32,710 --> 00:52:33,430 Is it a canyon? 610 00:52:33,650 --> 00:52:35,010 Are there trails over there? 611 00:52:35,350 --> 00:52:40,030 What are the biologic and environmental issues that you were speaking to? 612 00:52:41,910 --> 00:52:45,130 Well, let me, I do have an image that I could pop up here. 613 00:52:45,130 --> 00:52:48,170 going to have available to see here. 614 00:52:50,070 --> 00:52:53,250 So it does outline the area here in red. 615 00:52:54,150 --> 00:52:58,150 So this is a very steep canyon along the Chaco Creek here. 616 00:52:58,530 --> 00:53:00,670 I'm sorry, just to reference the screenline 617 00:53:00,670 --> 00:53:03,090 is the border of Henry Coast State Park. 618 00:53:03,150 --> 00:53:06,370 So everything to the west is Henry Coast State Park over here. 619 00:53:06,770 --> 00:53:12,170 And this is what our upstream 140,000 foot acre. 620 00:53:14,230 --> 00:53:18,950 So there's plenty of air, three miles of creek. 621 00:53:20,170 --> 00:53:26,210 Currently there is a sub-doubting adventure, and there is an entrance to Enrico Park from 622 00:53:26,210 --> 00:53:27,390 Pacheco Path Highway, 623 00:53:29,410 --> 00:53:33,590 and there are trails that do meander down to the creek, and from what I can tell 624 00:53:33,590 --> 00:53:39,550 from the satellite imagery that I've studied, one of the creeks does cross Pacheco Creek right near 625 00:53:39,550 --> 00:53:45,110 this tip. So if we were at 100% full pool, you know, there could be pretty close to that trail, 626 00:53:45,270 --> 00:53:50,490 but it doesn't look like it's going to reach it. And then everything in this area is there's 627 00:53:50,490 --> 00:53:58,290 no trails that's unenhabited. And in fact, you can see this image shows what burned in the 628 00:53:58,290 --> 00:54:05,410 SU fires, lost fall or late summer just to give some references as well. 629 00:54:05,410 --> 00:54:14,370 So, the inundation, what are some of the environmental issues there in Henry Coat? 630 00:54:14,370 --> 00:54:20,730 So, at the border of Henry Coat at full pool, it would be about 30 feet deep, maximum 631 00:54:20,730 --> 00:54:22,270 30 foot deep of water. 632 00:54:22,890 --> 00:54:30,690 So, the existing creek bed that does become full of water more often, rather than it's 633 00:54:30,690 --> 00:54:39,210 in the winter, it potentially changed the habitat by having more water available for other species 634 00:54:40,550 --> 00:54:48,150 or plants or other animals that could like that type of environment better. I'm probably not 635 00:54:48,150 --> 00:54:54,090 the best person to speak to that, but really it's just putting more water in the canyon there, 636 00:54:54,090 --> 00:54:55,490 in the creek. 637 00:54:55,610 --> 00:54:59,010 I think any, Chris. 638 00:54:59,010 --> 00:54:59,170 Chris. 639 00:54:59,310 --> 00:54:59,430 Chris. 640 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,360 Of the potential inundation area that we're looking to, we believe it will create more additional 641 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:09,540 it'll create habitat around there, which we've more beneficial right now. As Ryan said, the 642 00:55:09,540 --> 00:55:14,520 materials there were, they got burnt out through the SU fires and the trails that actually 643 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:18,280 go there. Those aren't day hiking trails. Those are, you know, for professional 644 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:22,320 hikers basically to get back there. So we think that there would be an increase in both recreation 645 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,740 as an environmental benefit to that area, but we still need to complete our studies. 646 00:55:26,580 --> 00:55:34,260 Well, are there any other four-legged animals that cross that creek in that area? 647 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,720 So are we going to be one of the things I want you to look at is are we going to be cutting 648 00:55:37,720 --> 00:55:43,720 off any cross access for any animals, any larger animals? 649 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:44,720 Yeah. 650 00:55:45,780 --> 00:55:48,840 We'll take a look at that with the extremely steep terrain. 651 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:53,140 It would probably be an animal that's either extremely small in stature and can make 652 00:55:53,140 --> 00:55:59,320 It's way through, perhaps a salamander or a frog or something that is well-versed to traversing 653 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:03,040 mountains like a goat, which we should have on particular species, but we're currently 654 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:04,860 still looking at those impacts. 655 00:56:05,820 --> 00:56:06,020 Yeah. 656 00:56:06,300 --> 00:56:11,460 I just think any incursion into Henry Coe is going to just throw red flags with so many people. 657 00:56:11,980 --> 00:56:16,100 So I think we need to have our environmental studies be really, really solid. 658 00:56:16,820 --> 00:56:22,140 And then my last question had to do with the technical and permitting issues. 659 00:56:22,140 --> 00:56:29,260 So you talked about DSOD with regard to the material for the dam. 660 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:36,220 Any other permitting issues that you see and what are some of the technical issues that 661 00:56:36,220 --> 00:56:38,020 you haven't already mentioned? 662 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,920 Well, there's many, many permits that we need to acquire along the way. 663 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:50,420 We are currently developing kind of a table that we're calling it a permitting strategy, 664 00:56:50,420 --> 00:56:53,560 So addressing all the different permits that we need. 665 00:56:54,240 --> 00:56:58,300 We have been having interagency coordination meetings with C-DFW, 666 00:56:58,460 --> 00:57:02,740 you have fish and wildlife service, you have reclamation, 667 00:57:03,540 --> 00:57:06,680 and other agencies to try to get some of these issues out in front 668 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:10,540 with our operations and what the product will look like post-construction. 669 00:57:12,380 --> 00:57:17,320 I can't really speak to a long laundry list of everything we're looking at, 670 00:57:17,700 --> 00:57:19,360 but Chris, did you want to weigh in on that at all? 671 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:24,520 Sure, so in comparison to Anderson, the permitting is more straightforward now. 672 00:57:24,900 --> 00:57:26,880 I won't be, I won't show you to go to it. 673 00:57:27,060 --> 00:57:29,180 When you're building a new dam or reconstructing a dam, 674 00:57:29,340 --> 00:57:30,220 permitting is never easy. 675 00:57:30,700 --> 00:57:35,960 We are having to consult the National Marine Fisheries Service California Department of Fish and Wildlife U.S. Department of Fish and Wildlife. 676 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:40,600 All the same players with the exception of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission. 677 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:46,760 The difference on this project is California Department of Fish and Wildlife is actually a project partner, 678 00:57:47,380 --> 00:57:54,340 Because of the benefit that is coming from the 50,000 acre-foot cold water pool, so they are actually helping us along in the process. 679 00:57:55,260 --> 00:58:02,420 So we think that the permitting timeline should be more, I would say, streamlined than in comparison to Anderson. 680 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:14,200 But no permitting is ever smooth without a few bumps in the road. So we are cognizant that could potentially delay the sort of contraction if we have some adverse opinions provided during our permitting consultation. 681 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:17,100 question. 682 00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:26,400 So if we don't pull a plug so to speak on this today, I guess your idea is to investigate 683 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:34,440 these four five alternatives. And then I guess either make a recommendation or bring it back 684 00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:40,740 to us for us to make a decision. At that point, I think it'd be very, very important for us 685 00:58:40,740 --> 00:58:46,920 you know, you know, with regard to scheduling, et cetera, et cetera, what permitting hurdles 686 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:53,380 are we looking at after you've had some, you know, some better time to hone in on them, 687 00:58:53,380 --> 00:58:56,920 because I think that's the biggest, you know, that's been the issue with Anderson, that's been 688 00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:01,180 an issue with so many things, you know, we think they're permitting's going to go, you know, 689 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:06,840 a little bit dicey, but then it turns, you know, south of us. So I think before you come back 690 00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:11,940 the board with, you know, where we get down to a, you know, picking out an alternative. 691 00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,140 That's got to be really, really flushed out heck of a lot more. 692 00:59:16,580 --> 00:59:17,200 So thank you. 693 00:59:17,540 --> 00:59:18,720 Yeah, appreciate the comment. 694 00:59:19,300 --> 00:59:19,840 Thank you. 695 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:21,480 Through the chair. 696 00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:22,680 Yes. 697 00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:27,840 So this is a government relations question. 698 00:59:28,420 --> 00:59:32,000 We actually reached out to the Secretary of Natural Resources. 699 00:59:32,940 --> 00:59:34,620 John Layers Office to determine. 700 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:43,220 And the inquiry is to their opinion on what we're looking at here in Henry Cove since it falls under the state's jurisdiction. 701 00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,360 And I believe under his guidance as well. 702 00:59:46,660 --> 00:59:51,220 Have we had conversations with the state on this particular with this particular part? 703 00:59:51,820 --> 00:59:54,600 Wait, Crow, but Larry is now a senator. 704 00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,180 That's why I'm asking, have we reached out to you? 705 00:59:59,180 --> 00:59:59,980 Did you read it? 706 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:07,860 Current members of the administration in advance, and as this progress has been going through the process, or as a subject, rather, has been going through the process. 707 01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:23,200 So those conversations are actually ongoing. In fact, we are in the process, have been in it actually for some time in seeking a more in-depth conversation with members of the natural resource agency, particularly California State Parks, to further flesh out and get their opinions and feelings about this. 708 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,480 as the board knows we're seeking some scoping meetings 709 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,400 that are coming up, I believe next time. 710 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,840 And we wanted to give the state parks folks 711 01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,500 that heads up about that, let them know 712 01:00:32,500 --> 01:00:34,060 what we're thinking about with the alternative, 713 01:00:34,580 --> 01:00:36,960 like, as currently projected. 714 01:00:38,740 --> 01:00:40,960 Okay, so we've had communicated with him, 715 01:00:41,060 --> 01:00:42,180 had we had any opinions? 716 01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,000 Any comments that have come back? 717 01:00:44,340 --> 01:00:46,620 Was it strictly exchange from the water district, 718 01:00:46,860 --> 01:00:48,700 but yet we've received no comments back? 719 01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,700 I just wanted to be clear, it's the way we're at on this. 720 01:00:51,700 --> 01:00:53,200 It's through the church of Raleigh. 721 01:00:54,580 --> 01:00:55,960 Oh, I'm sorry. 722 01:00:56,980 --> 01:00:57,780 Other stuff. 723 01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,320 All right, they were seeing you've been a bit of an echo. 724 01:00:59,820 --> 01:01:05,660 Through the church of Raleigh, they have been measured, I think, in wing, in on this, 725 01:01:06,020 --> 01:01:09,660 before they know what exactly the project is going to look like, you know, what the alternatives 726 01:01:09,660 --> 01:01:10,640 are going to look like. 727 01:01:11,020 --> 01:01:14,460 So they, I would say, they're withholding judgment at this point. 728 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:16,400 OK. 729 01:01:17,020 --> 01:01:27,780 And to the comment that I just heard from Director Lizot making a comment stating the determination might be that we might just throw this thing out the window and say we're not going to do this this project. 730 01:01:27,940 --> 01:01:30,380 That's what I think I heard maybe I'm paraphrasing her. 731 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,400 Well, that's not my position on this. 732 01:01:32,660 --> 01:01:38,940 This represents a very important part of the water supply system for the future of our constituents. 733 01:01:38,940 --> 01:01:48,840 And with Anderson down, that would make really a very poor statement from the water district as to how we're going to plan for our sustainable water supply and the future with the exception. 734 01:01:49,580 --> 01:01:55,180 The only alternative to this is continuing the conservation and expansion of our water purification facilities. 735 01:01:56,180 --> 01:02:00,100 And we're currently not even allowed to put that water into portable use. 736 01:02:00,100 --> 01:02:05,940 So it seems to me that the water district, the directors currently need to take every extreme 737 01:02:05,940 --> 01:02:12,080 measurable that we can find to continue this project, move in it forward, and working with 738 01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:16,560 the environmental groups as we always do, but finding the solution, finding the resources 739 01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:21,500 to bring this to fruition and make it happen. That's my opinion, and that's, as a director, 740 01:02:22,260 --> 01:02:27,940 I think all of this should, for the work towards completing this project, as long as it take 741 01:02:27,940 --> 01:02:31,040 is how much it ever costs. That's my opinion. 742 01:02:32,690 --> 01:02:33,390 There are symptoms. 743 01:02:33,870 --> 01:02:34,930 Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chair. 744 01:02:35,190 --> 01:02:36,890 I would second John's comments. 745 01:02:37,450 --> 01:02:39,370 There's some little differences here in here, 746 01:02:39,430 --> 01:02:42,290 but overall I told you agree that I see more positive things. 747 01:02:42,790 --> 01:02:46,550 The question I have told is that if we had this audit, 748 01:02:46,970 --> 01:02:49,190 would this change some of the issues that we're talking about? 749 01:02:49,330 --> 01:02:51,170 Or some of the numbers of some of the costs? 750 01:02:51,670 --> 01:02:53,310 Would it after some of the familiar things? 751 01:02:53,950 --> 01:02:55,150 That's what I'm just asking. 752 01:02:55,570 --> 01:02:58,290 Do we feel that that would be appropriate to do? 753 01:02:58,290 --> 01:02:59,990 because it may have a change. 754 01:03:01,210 --> 01:03:03,390 Perfect Santos, if I could speak to that. 755 01:03:03,690 --> 01:03:05,670 The audit is mostly looking at how the cost 756 01:03:05,670 --> 01:03:09,410 installation is occurred, as well as what the assumptions 757 01:03:09,410 --> 01:03:11,110 were made during the initial design. 758 01:03:11,290 --> 01:03:14,210 So, basically, as Dr. Keaton had referenced, 759 01:03:14,410 --> 01:03:17,370 some of the assumptions that were used during the 760 01:03:17,370 --> 01:03:19,750 whosapp application, well, just about at the time 761 01:03:19,750 --> 01:03:23,470 may have proven to be a bit under, not conservative 762 01:03:23,470 --> 01:03:24,270 enough, I would say. 763 01:03:24,850 --> 01:03:26,850 So, that's what the audit is going to be focused on 764 01:03:26,850 --> 01:03:32,850 how we got from the 2015 cost dollars to the current, we will be going through value engineering 765 01:03:32,850 --> 01:03:38,930 on the project as you can see the baseline alternative is up at $2.5 billion in they've already 766 01:03:38,930 --> 01:03:44,210 identified some value engineering sort of alternatives that would help reduce that cost by about 767 01:03:44,210 --> 01:03:49,010 400 million. We will continue to work with that as we go through the design process, but there's 768 01:03:49,010 --> 01:03:53,710 no specific audit that's recommended just for that design element in order to cost safe. 769 01:03:54,350 --> 01:03:57,350 I appreciate it Chris with staff is doing. 770 01:03:58,130 --> 01:04:04,010 I also think with the tunnels and all the other bureaucracy things going on. 771 01:04:04,290 --> 01:04:05,650 The source of water is being scarce. 772 01:04:05,950 --> 01:04:08,210 We're no question we're having a drought again. 773 01:04:09,390 --> 01:04:12,630 The best decision I can help make is to keep this going. 774 01:04:13,030 --> 01:04:13,990 It's not about me. 775 01:04:14,370 --> 01:04:17,470 It's not about John or Gary or Tony or whatever have you. 776 01:04:17,770 --> 01:04:21,470 But what do we do for our children and grandchildren and everybody for the future? 777 01:04:21,690 --> 01:04:22,930 Do we have a source of water? 778 01:04:22,930 --> 01:04:28,450 Before you can have water conservation and recycling you got to have water because that would be a source 779 01:04:28,450 --> 01:04:29,990 I think this is a great area 780 01:04:29,990 --> 01:04:36,790 Who I think the challenges are hard but not as hard as Anderson. I really believe we can do the job and work with everybody and 781 01:04:37,530 --> 01:04:42,670 You can be able to sell water and recapture water. There's so much water being wasted running from those hills 782 01:04:42,670 --> 01:04:47,490 That's why it was built in the first place. I'm sure back then and they had the wisdom then 783 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:10,260 So I'm in full support and wherever we can do to shorten the cost by hand then, but you know, when you don't have water, you pay more damage control. 784 01:05:10,780 --> 01:05:15,140 And so we've got that embrace what we got. That's in the course. That's my opinion. 785 01:05:17,330 --> 01:05:19,410 Any further discussion? Questions? 786 01:05:20,590 --> 01:05:21,230 Dr. Kremlin? 787 01:05:22,070 --> 01:05:23,630 You're on view. 788 01:05:24,650 --> 01:05:25,030 Dr. Kremlin? 789 01:05:25,610 --> 01:05:27,250 Always. Always. 790 01:05:27,250 --> 01:05:32,770 I think it is worth kind of looking always in a process looking backwards, especially given 791 01:05:32,770 --> 01:05:41,650 the size of the cost, change, to kind of do a little audit work through that, especially given 792 01:05:41,650 --> 01:05:47,990 kind of in 1993 there were some, I know there's a report that talked about maybe some of the, 793 01:05:47,990 --> 01:05:53,970 we weren't at the bedrock. That said, I kind of want to hear public comment on this before we 794 01:05:53,970 --> 01:06:02,590 going further. We have to come in. Do we have any? I do not have any raised hands at this point, 795 01:06:03,010 --> 01:06:07,490 but I do have a comment that was put in the chat section. My catcher urban and I'll just read it. 796 01:06:07,610 --> 01:06:12,890 That's okay, Mr. Chair. Yes. As if this project goes forward, please do more community engagement 797 01:06:12,890 --> 01:06:18,610 that has been done to date. The project delivery process shows public outreach during the alternative 798 01:06:18,610 --> 01:06:33,510 to develop it. I have Dr. Kea, I just have a quick question and I actually probably 799 01:06:33,510 --> 01:06:40,470 it's more of a comment which is, you know, I have not made my mind up about this project. 800 01:06:40,730 --> 01:06:45,590 I am disappointed, obviously, I think this will all are that the project is more complicated 801 01:06:46,450 --> 01:06:51,490 and more expensive and particularly if we're going to be facing permanent issues. 802 01:06:51,490 --> 01:06:57,650 those are all, you know, a big challenge, but we're also interested in having an adequate water 803 01:06:57,650 --> 01:07:07,190 supply as well. So I am keeping those things in my head. I think that, as this moves forward, 804 01:07:07,390 --> 01:07:14,790 I really would want to have a better understanding of what might be the potential impacts to 805 01:07:14,790 --> 01:07:27,870 You know, every year we set our rates and every year we hear from our customers that they have, you know, concerns about the price that they're paying for water and so I think that's going to be an important part of the discussion. 806 01:07:28,550 --> 01:07:31,630 So next time this comes forward to us. 807 01:07:32,190 --> 01:07:36,750 I'd really like to hear Southway and on that topic. Thank you. 808 01:07:36,750 --> 01:07:48,690 I believe our CFO will be presenting in this meeting a little bit later today, some of the impacts of the fiscal project as currently forecast it during with our costs. 809 01:07:49,090 --> 01:07:57,310 And as well as it removed from our water rates scenarios, so that will get the upper and lower bounds and then we can definitely back with alternatives and impacts. 810 01:07:57,890 --> 01:08:02,770 And generally, it goes towards the upper bound, doesn't it? Okay, thank you. 811 01:08:04,230 --> 01:08:05,670 Yes, I'll just roll. 812 01:08:07,510 --> 01:08:13,510 First of all, that I want to thank staff for following this new process, that at the critical 813 01:08:13,510 --> 01:08:19,030 point for this foreign project, bringing it earlier to the board at the appropriate time, 814 01:08:19,150 --> 01:08:21,450 so that the board can have initial feedback. 815 01:08:21,770 --> 01:08:23,310 So, thank you very much. 816 01:08:23,770 --> 01:08:29,190 And my question is about the cost estimate. 817 01:08:30,330 --> 01:08:46,970 So, Ryan, I guess this is a question for you that in this updated cause estimate, I assume it's based on our best knowledge as of now and then there's some contingency percentage for the intuit. 818 01:08:46,970 --> 01:08:51,850 Do we see, do we feel how confident we are 819 01:08:51,850 --> 01:08:59,410 on how we speak, cause estimate based on what we know as of now? 820 01:09:00,830 --> 01:09:12,550 And personally, I think likely these project costs will be updated on the, as we move on and 821 01:09:12,550 --> 01:09:19,270 as we study and as we design, the more we know about the project, the more we can do a better 822 01:09:19,270 --> 01:09:25,390 job on the cost estimate. And in most cases, that means that the numbers will become of bigger. 823 01:09:27,010 --> 01:09:34,330 So we try to use contingency to account for that. How confident we are always 824 01:09:34,950 --> 01:09:41,030 the cost estimate. Yeah so I can answer that. We did increase the design 825 01:09:41,030 --> 01:09:48,330 contingency from 10% which it was previously in the 2017 application to 25% and that's 826 01:09:48,330 --> 01:09:52,670 the account for other things that will come up in the design process or make them up and 827 01:09:52,670 --> 01:09:59,110 make sure we capture those. The construction contingency is at 20%. So with those two contingencies 828 01:09:59,110 --> 01:09:59,970 the buy-and-word. We have a- 829 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:07,680 I've continues from 30% to 100% at 10% design level, 5% design level that we're at now. 830 01:10:08,060 --> 01:10:09,900 So we're at about 50% contingency. 831 01:10:11,700 --> 01:10:24,660 Okay, thank you. As of now, I am keeping an open mind for this project. I believe that as the 832 01:10:24,660 --> 01:10:30,020 organization that these technical challenges, community challenges, and 833 01:10:30,020 --> 01:10:34,240 the permitting challenges, we know how to work through those things. 834 01:10:34,580 --> 01:10:37,360 To me, the biggest problem is the cost. 835 01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:45,520 And these other things, we work on it, we can get to a resolution. 836 01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:54,080 But the cost part, by now, and we're talking about talk about it later, we made a 837 01:10:54,080 --> 01:11:04,320 that there's going to be, I think, 40 or 49% of the costs to the, we feel long. 838 01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:11,440 We're going to expect that 20% of the costs will be paid by partners. 839 01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:21,180 And I'm not sure these assumptions are realistic, and then if the, which I think likely, 840 01:11:21,180 --> 01:11:30,840 The update and cost estimate will probably increase again or more than one time as we reviewed the progress of the project. 841 01:11:31,660 --> 01:11:36,600 So to me, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the hurdle of the cost. 842 01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:42,680 And of course, we will just continue working on it and they'll see what we are. 843 01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:46,380 But I do believe these other issues, we know how to. 844 01:11:49,740 --> 01:11:56,880 I think we will do a job in public engagement. 845 01:11:57,180 --> 01:12:02,720 Well, once we have some talk about the public, and we'll give it to you. 846 01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:07,300 I'm just, you know, this is to, you're actually sure. 847 01:12:07,660 --> 01:12:10,700 Speak, you know, we'll spend a so much money on climate change. 848 01:12:10,980 --> 01:12:14,660 And so, again, I worry about the damage control when you don't take advantage of something. 849 01:12:14,660 --> 01:12:21,660 So it's not being argumented. I do agree. We have to dress in and especially cost becomes the number one. 850 01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:30,040 But you pay way more if you don't do something when you have the opportunity down the road because I've seen it happen so many times. 851 01:12:30,440 --> 01:12:34,660 If we had the other, I remember when I first got here, I remember made the motion. 852 01:12:34,660 --> 01:12:38,080 And let's look at Calabirus area and dams over there. 853 01:12:38,220 --> 01:12:43,020 And at that time, staff wasn't getting the direction from whether they'd be the chair or 854 01:12:43,020 --> 01:12:43,980 the majority of the board. 855 01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,520 And we did do those things for these entire 20 years. 856 01:12:47,780 --> 01:12:49,520 And we could have probably two more reservoirs. 857 01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:51,020 We chose not to. 858 01:12:51,060 --> 01:12:53,780 Now we're paying triple what we could have done then. 859 01:12:53,900 --> 01:12:56,720 So I understand cost is always the driven factor. 860 01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:03,620 But when you don't have water, if you think C-19 is a chaotic situation, take waterway, 861 01:13:03,620 --> 01:13:09,900 and we'll end up killing each other. So we've got to do what we can through the chair. 862 01:13:11,460 --> 01:13:19,820 Yeah. Thank you. So there's one other major issue that is exciting to think about in my opinion, 863 01:13:20,340 --> 01:13:26,440 is we have a new administration coming into Washington. We have new control, new leadership, 864 01:13:26,440 --> 01:13:33,640 ship and all branches of government that is very proactive and very pro-environmental and water 865 01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:40,460 issues. So I think that we really need to be patient, wait to see what's going to roll out 866 01:13:40,460 --> 01:13:46,400 of Washington in the first 100 days, understand that there's chaos there at the moment, but being 867 01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:51,300 the optimist that I am, these things will work its way through. And I believe there will be some new 868 01:13:51,300 --> 01:14:00,740 opportunities for us to quote partner with those that are looking for these types of projects, 869 01:14:01,300 --> 01:14:10,500 water storage up and down the state, and I do believe that the federal government will play a larger role in California on these water storage issues. 870 01:14:10,980 --> 01:14:15,880 So I think we just need to be patient sit back and wait to see how this thing is all going to come forward. 871 01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:20,040 And not necessarily make rash decisions at the moment. 872 01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:21,020 We have time. 873 01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:22,500 We have plenty of time. 874 01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:24,260 So that's my comment. 875 01:14:24,480 --> 01:14:26,940 And I think, you know, we should all think about this. 876 01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:29,620 We've got a whole new administration coming in. 877 01:14:29,740 --> 01:14:31,920 And I think we're going to benefit from it. 878 01:14:34,220 --> 01:14:34,480 Yes, sir. 879 01:14:34,660 --> 01:14:34,900 OK. 880 01:14:34,900 --> 01:14:35,560 Thank you, Chair. 881 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:06,040 This is a roll blog, we cannot go over, but then I just had to think that this is something that 882 01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:11,560 compared to all these other issues which are there, they're all very challenging, but the cost part 883 01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:23,020 is something that we need to focus on getting solutions or support on that. And also that 884 01:15:23,020 --> 01:15:30,920 doing the CFP committee review at the chair and the director's office on the committee, we 885 01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:40,760 actually recommend that for the storage committee and the whole board to take the time and 886 01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:48,060 the director of Ramla just as you just said, take the time and then really not rushing to do it 887 01:15:48,060 --> 01:15:53,960 not to, whatever, but then go to the work and then figure it out. 888 01:15:54,300 --> 01:15:56,320 That's what's the best strategy to get forward. 889 01:15:58,000 --> 01:15:59,040 So, this. 890 01:16:00,300 --> 01:16:02,460 Yeah, this is been a good discussion. 891 01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:07,760 And it's important, you know, obviously, we'll have plenty of public participation. 892 01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:12,920 But we've got to give some of the technical questions answered first. 893 01:16:13,420 --> 01:16:15,520 So then when we do have public participation, 894 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:22,400 we'll be able to answer those questions so that the public can involve itself in policy 895 01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:30,700 questions and community questions and so on because they already have the very difficult 896 01:16:30,700 --> 01:16:37,620 to acquire technical review that we've been engaged in. So I think it's important for us to 897 01:16:37,620 --> 01:16:44,400 continue the process, keep looking at stuff, get the alternatives out so that we can share 898 01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:50,760 the public and then get to a point where we can have some true policy decisions and discussions. 899 01:16:51,520 --> 01:17:00,000 I think and then we can really make some decisions at that point. So we've got a ways to go, 900 01:17:00,440 --> 01:17:09,300 but I think it's important that we be very clear that we share information, 901 01:17:09,300 --> 01:17:19,800 a factual information often that we not be surprised by hundreds of millions of dollars 902 01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:27,420 a year later, but that we know it's going on at a continuing basis and that we share that with the community. 903 01:17:27,620 --> 01:17:37,300 I think that's really what's important because people need to have confidence in the process that we're pursuing. 904 01:17:37,300 --> 01:17:43,040 Then we'll get to the end. People will be pretty comfortable in making decisions. 905 01:17:43,660 --> 01:17:51,380 And I do agree that when we talk about cost, cost is not a disconnected thing. 906 01:17:52,100 --> 01:18:01,280 Cost is grounded in reality. And part of reality is not what it costs to not do what we're planning to do. 907 01:18:01,620 --> 01:18:06,080 Don't just look at something and say, well, it's too expensive or not. 908 01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:10,320 Whatever, you have to look at what the cost is, 909 01:18:10,460 --> 01:18:12,340 the avoidance cost, what is the cost, 910 01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:14,380 and we don't do this? 911 01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:16,820 That's the true cost. 912 01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:19,660 Let's find out both sides so we could make 913 01:18:19,660 --> 01:18:21,620 some good decisions for the community. 914 01:18:22,780 --> 01:18:25,300 So with that, Alana, let's be if the board is... 915 01:18:25,300 --> 01:18:27,000 I'm sure, sorry, the director was out of likes. 916 01:18:27,060 --> 01:18:29,520 Yes, the director was out, if the board 917 01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:31,480 would like to make a motion, the director was out. 918 01:18:31,900 --> 01:18:33,040 Yeah, I had a question. 919 01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:33,740 So, 920 01:18:36,020 --> 01:18:40,740 is staff going to actively outreach to the environmental community, or are they just going 921 01:18:40,740 --> 01:18:44,420 to wait for them to send in letters and things like that? 922 01:18:44,460 --> 01:18:46,920 I know we received a letter from the Sierra Club. 923 01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:51,700 So what's the plan and when will that take place? 924 01:18:52,540 --> 01:18:57,680 So Dr. Luzot, we will be presenting the alternatives and going for public input from both the 925 01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:01,080 environmental communities and public at large during our scoping meetings, which are currently 926 01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:10,980 I believe late February. We actually have had some input previously. As you know, this project is an alternative under the San Luis low point improvement project. 927 01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:21,040 So as it wasn't alternative, we were up in Sacramento and down in the Gilroy library for scoping meetings on that project and did get some of the feedback then. 928 01:19:21,480 --> 01:19:24,520 So we will continue to engage the public and the stakeholders as we move forward. 929 01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:42,920 You know, this is basically the beginning, we expect that the EIR, the draft, the EIR will be available for release at the end of the year, and that is still basically, you know, we get comments on the draft EIR before the board adopts the final, so there are many different times for the public to engage, and we will be doing our outreach. 930 01:19:45,460 --> 01:19:52,240 I've been to many sculpting meetings, and they're really not conducive to dialogue. 931 01:19:53,140 --> 01:19:58,320 They're really not conducive to getting a given take. 932 01:19:58,840 --> 01:19:59,980 So, you know, I think you're... 933 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:08,380 And we either engage them or we decide to, you know, climb over the wall and then look ridiculous. 934 01:20:09,420 --> 01:20:18,020 So I just want to make sure that there's real engagement. Like I said, I've been to, you know, I've been doing this to 20 years. 935 01:20:18,180 --> 01:20:25,060 And I've been to scoping meetings, and they are not a good forum for dialogue with people. 936 01:20:25,060 --> 01:20:36,560 So I hope that there's other ways, you know, in addition to letters of people sending that we have the opportunity to dialogue with the environmental community or anybody else who's interested in this project. 937 01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:39,060 Rachel Lee. Yes. 938 01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:40,000 Through the chair. 939 01:20:40,140 --> 01:20:42,340 Director Lizard, I wanted to add to what Chris mentioned. 940 01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:47,440 We've heard from the board loud and clear that there is a desire for not just one way communication. 941 01:20:47,440 --> 01:20:52,880 not just public outreach, but true, two-way dialogue and community engagement, as a Sierra 942 01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:54,840 Clubs that are asserted as well. 943 01:20:55,240 --> 01:21:00,500 I can assure you, we will be reaching out and contacting, casting a net far and wide to 944 01:21:00,500 --> 01:21:05,420 make sure that we are soliciting input and feedback on not just during these public-scoping 945 01:21:05,420 --> 01:21:08,580 meetings, but throughout this process starting effectively now. 946 01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:13,880 I want to assure that the Board has expressed a desire for this two-way dialogue for some 947 01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:14,300 time. 948 01:21:14,300 --> 01:21:24,980 And to that end, I have several affairs assumed going to be launching an additional piece of software and platform that's going to help us do that in an even more expedient and streamline fashion. 949 01:21:25,500 --> 01:21:42,840 So I wanted to definitely assure you and the other members of the board that we've heard you loud and clear that we want to facilitate that two-way dialogue, not just be talking at people and not just be having them send in letters, but absolutely get meaningful dialogue and input and feedback from our many stakeholders from across the different sectors that the board represents. 950 01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:51,260 Okay, thank you, and I'm sure we'll help from them if it isn't going well, but I think under your leadership, Rachel, I take you with you work. 951 01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:52,840 That's the premise. 952 01:21:53,140 --> 01:21:53,780 Eric, the Chairman. 953 01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:55,620 Thank you, Chair. 954 01:21:56,420 --> 01:21:58,320 You know, I've been thinking about that outreach. 955 01:21:58,540 --> 01:22:02,660 It seems to me, and I'd love to ask staff maybe, add these up. 956 01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:11,840 We've had outreach for not only when we applied for all the Prop 1, but every Prop 1 hearing that there was before the water commission, 957 01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:17,980 and there were many. Every board meeting we've had, every San Luis, low point public meeting 958 01:22:17,980 --> 01:22:23,400 there was, every Cacheco pass and water district meeting they are. These are all public meetings. 959 01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:30,320 Every San Vito County Water Agency meeting plus a bunch of our water storage meetings where this 960 01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:36,080 comes up every single time. So it's not like there's been no stakeholder engagement. No one's 961 01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:47,400 Unless I don't understand, I don't see anyone hiding here, or there's no public, like we don't listen the letters, so I'd like that staff needed to add up all those. 962 01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:51,080 Just like we did for the convenience project. 963 01:22:52,500 --> 01:22:55,520 To say, are these meetings where there was public comments allowed? 964 01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:59,200 Did we go beyond public comments and many meetings? 965 01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:03,060 Didn't we actually meet with a lot of, for example, environmentalists? 966 01:23:03,220 --> 01:23:08,140 I remember reading to our prop one, application, like for example, Jerry Smith, 967 01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:09,580 didn't we meet with us folks? 968 01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:15,320 So maybe we could detail those for people who feel there's been no outreach or engagement. 969 01:23:16,140 --> 01:23:22,500 And I would make a motion to approve the recommendation that this go before the Board 970 01:23:22,500 --> 01:23:25,200 on the committee to, let's just, I'm on. 971 01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:32,100 I'll second that. We have a motion a second to adopt the recommendation B. 972 01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:39,300 Through the chair before the vote. So, I've been on the board for a while now, but have we ever had 973 01:23:39,300 --> 01:23:47,200 a workshop, an actual workshop, with our board and the environmental groups, where we set across each other, 974 01:23:47,860 --> 01:23:54,880 and we have a dialogue where we actually listen and we comment and at some point, a document 975 01:23:55,200 --> 01:24:00,260 is published echoing the thoughts of each and every one of those environmental groups and the representatives 976 01:24:00,260 --> 01:24:06,580 at the table with the board to talk through all these issues and all these concerns. 977 01:24:07,300 --> 01:24:12,680 Has that ever happened? I don't we call participating in that in the five years that I've been on the board. 978 01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:16,100 Does anybody answer that? 979 01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:20,680 Yeah, I don't I don't we're calling that what direct sense? No, I'm just saying that you know 980 01:24:21,740 --> 01:24:27,480 given an example, we have never avoided that with how like trails meeting and we all sat down and we all 981 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:07,000 When you were not totally agree with the John, I think that's always a good idea. Don't pan or what the subject is. That's it. I don't have dialogue. 982 01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:14,160 We'll have the public invited. I mean, unfortunately, it was still meeting this way, but at some point we're all going to get back together again. 983 01:25:14,860 --> 01:25:21,280 So I would like to say things that the environmental communities are not involved. Keep on saying that you believe it. 984 01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:28,120 Since I've been here since been the opposite, we have always welcomed and have good engagement. If we can improve it, we can improve it. 985 01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:34,980 measure S wouldn't pass if everybody wasn't in a dialogue, so I know we have good communication 986 01:25:34,980 --> 01:25:38,720 but can we approve? Of course we can and I'm always up for it. 987 01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:48,420 Well I will take responsibility to coordinate with the CECO and also with Rachel so that 988 01:25:48,420 --> 01:25:56,900 we could do some form of dialogue with the environmental community out checking with each of the 989 01:25:56,900 --> 01:26:02,340 directors need to make sure that we're we're going to do it right and then we'll make the 990 01:26:02,340 --> 01:26:09,700 attempts ever to las out you got your hand raised okay okay I did I did I did I did I did I did I 991 01:26:09,700 --> 01:26:17,000 I did maybe you can do that to water storage meeting first number one and number two 992 01:26:17,820 --> 01:26:23,680 the environmental community is not a monolith that one group is right I recall in our 993 01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:27,080 application, we support from several environmental groups. 994 01:26:27,260 --> 01:26:29,040 So just because they're not showed up in the meeting, 995 01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:30,860 doesn't mean they're not supporting it. 996 01:26:31,020 --> 01:26:34,400 We've seen from measure S that there's a wide variety 997 01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:36,020 of environmental groups. 998 01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:38,260 Just as many as there's labor and business groups. 999 01:26:38,780 --> 01:26:41,160 So let's not get worked up because one or two people 1000 01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:42,420 says it one way. 1001 01:26:42,660 --> 01:26:43,300 Totally agree. 1002 01:26:43,420 --> 01:26:46,460 They have enough time during the day when there's a lot of people 1003 01:26:46,460 --> 01:26:48,940 working to put food on their table to come to these meetings. 1004 01:26:50,700 --> 01:26:53,100 So that's, as I go from prop one, there's 1005 01:26:53,100 --> 01:26:57,100 many other environmental groups that have weighed in the support of our projects. 1006 01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:00,600 Thank you. 1007 01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:01,920 Thank you very much. 1008 01:27:02,480 --> 01:27:12,900 Good discussion and I, you know, I think that ultimately, this is such a big project, such a complex project. 1009 01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:21,020 We do want to engage the public and I really want to thank Miss Gibson for her suggestions. 1010 01:27:21,020 --> 01:27:35,800 And it's yes, it's engaging the environmental community, but it's engaging many, many, many, many different communities that I think have the opportunity to provide useful input to staff and to the board. 1011 01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:47,220 So I look forward to seeing this move forward forward and gathering more information so we can all make the right decision that is ultimately going to serve our constituents. 1012 01:27:51,830 --> 01:27:58,330 Okay, yeah, I think we're talking about two different things, but we're, we're, I think we're on it. 1013 01:27:58,350 --> 01:27:59,870 We do have a motion, yes. 1014 01:28:00,050 --> 01:28:01,870 I'll just show that. 1015 01:28:01,890 --> 01:28:03,150 Let's take the motion. 1016 01:28:03,710 --> 01:28:04,490 Let's do the action. 1017 01:28:06,830 --> 01:28:06,950 Okay. 1018 01:28:07,430 --> 01:28:07,730 All right. 1019 01:28:08,210 --> 01:28:09,130 Let's do the motion. 1020 01:28:09,410 --> 01:28:11,310 And then let's vote on the motion. 1021 01:28:11,630 --> 01:28:13,030 And then we can continue discussion. 1022 01:28:14,090 --> 01:28:15,570 There's more discussion. 1023 01:28:17,150 --> 01:28:18,270 So, roll call, please. 1024 01:28:18,690 --> 01:28:19,970 Can you repeat the motion, please? 1025 01:28:19,970 --> 01:28:36,850 Yes, it's just adopting a B recommendation through the recommendation that the audit committee that we refer to the audit committee to determine the timeline associated with cost increases for the project. 1026 01:28:36,850 --> 01:28:39,370 Thank you. 1027 01:28:39,510 --> 01:28:41,830 Director Shua, yes, Director Keegan. 1028 01:28:43,210 --> 01:28:43,390 Yes. 1029 01:28:44,970 --> 01:28:51,670 Yeah. Director of the slide? Yes. Director Santas. Yes. Director Rowland. Yes. 1030 01:28:53,470 --> 01:28:58,650 Okay. Director Shu, you have something? Yeah, just just a suggestion that I don't 1031 01:28:58,650 --> 01:29:09,760 need to do it. I remember that during the the Recycle Water Committee has 1032 01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:14,320 has multiple engagement on videos with the community 1033 01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:17,360 for the four eye proliferation issues. 1034 01:29:17,620 --> 01:29:20,760 So that's one good model that maybe explore 1035 01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:23,020 toward how many of you can use. 1036 01:29:23,480 --> 01:29:26,740 And the other thing is that this is our recent 1037 01:29:26,740 --> 01:29:31,000 all engaged with activity by the team that's working 1038 01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:32,600 on the trail issue with the trail, 1039 01:29:33,140 --> 01:29:35,840 has been, again, even the smaller buildings 1040 01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:38,560 has many different opinions that have been not 1041 01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:42,720 and not have it here and not have it there. So the way that they did the all-reach 1042 01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:46,620 and engagement, that's a good example too. 1043 01:29:47,060 --> 01:29:48,680 That's what that's exactly. Yeah. 1044 01:29:49,020 --> 01:29:54,400 But I think we're talking about two different things. One is, one is a general dialogue with 1045 01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:59,640 the environmental community, whatever that is. And secondly, you know, 1046 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:09,980 To this particular issue of probably lunches, not just a particular self would also water storage. 1047 01:30:10,980 --> 01:30:24,860 So it's just a question of trying to involve everybody, which includes the environmental community, just like it includes all the other aspects of our community, which we call stakeholders. 1048 01:30:24,860 --> 01:30:33,180 But anyway, I think we'll be having some extra meetings this year and those who relate to both 1049 01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:40,840 Anderson and storage and then specifically having an ongoing dialogue with the environmental community, 1050 01:30:41,540 --> 01:30:44,940 some of who continue to say that we don't dialogue with them. 1051 01:30:45,180 --> 01:30:46,860 Let's address that. 1052 01:30:46,860 --> 01:30:57,280 I will take the initiative to work with the CEO and Rachel to figure out how we can address that. 1053 01:30:57,420 --> 01:31:03,160 And I'll come back to the board with some suggestions, and we'll do all we can. 1054 01:31:03,820 --> 01:31:10,180 At Rector Shoes says, we can solve some of these things, so we'll work on it. 1055 01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:14,140 Is there anything further would we expect to this issue any questions? 1056 01:31:14,140 --> 01:31:19,280 discusses any motions? I'd like to make a comment that I'm happy to see 1057 01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:22,260 quite a member of the environmental community is supporting 1058 01:31:22,260 --> 01:31:26,220 lots of local carats and system rates that was in the letter. 1059 01:31:26,580 --> 01:31:33,320 Yeah, same here, and of course I mentioned storage as a general issue, because we're not 1060 01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:39,300 looking at particular in an isolated way. You know, when we December when we 1061 01:31:39,300 --> 01:31:44,220 that our public discussion last time, I'd share then, 1062 01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:47,880 I made sure that we looked at overall storage, 1063 01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:50,020 and we looked at all the other projects. 1064 01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:53,300 We looked at it as overall issue, which is correct. 1065 01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:57,380 And that's what we have to look at it as part of a water supply. 1066 01:31:57,980 --> 01:31:59,320 That's how we looked at it. 1067 01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:01,700 And I think we have to continue to remind ourselves 1068 01:32:02,980 --> 01:32:06,880 that, for Traco, is it an isolated program? 1069 01:32:07,140 --> 01:32:08,660 Is that an isolated project? 1070 01:32:08,660 --> 01:32:15,640 It's related to water supply and other storage issues so so we have to look at it that way 1071 01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:21,220 and we need to talk about it that way but okay we've done it now for this one and we'll move right along 1072 01:32:21,220 --> 01:32:29,140 thank you very much staff with you help on this one and so move right along then to 2.6 1073 01:32:29,140 --> 01:32:36,460 But we're studying session on preliminary fiscal year, groundwater production charges for fiscal 1074 01:32:36,460 --> 01:32:39,800 years, 2020 to the 26th. 1075 01:32:41,670 --> 01:32:45,030 And good afternoon, Chair Estimer and members of the board. 1076 01:32:46,410 --> 01:32:55,690 Item 2.6 is a review of 22 to 26 preliminary CIP, as well as a review of the FY22 preliminary 1077 01:32:55,690 --> 01:33:03,810 water charges. And in the past couple of cycles, we have combined the discussion of the 1078 01:33:03,810 --> 01:33:09,430 preliminary CIP and the preliminary water rate analysis at the first meeting in January 1079 01:33:09,430 --> 01:33:15,830 into one agenda item so that the board could see kind of a comprehensive picture if you will. 1080 01:33:16,170 --> 01:33:23,690 That seems to have worked well in the past and so we've done it again this year. And assuming that the 1081 01:33:23,690 --> 01:33:29,030 presentation. Let me just first ask that question. Does the board want to hear the presentation? 1082 01:33:31,340 --> 01:33:39,280 Yes. All right. Thank you. One to make sure. And so with that, this will be a tag team presentation. 1083 01:33:41,140 --> 01:33:44,940 And Jessica's got on her screen. Jessica, can you go back to the previous slide? 1084 01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:52,820 The previous slide shows what we're asking of the board today through this presentation and the first 1085 01:33:52,820 --> 01:33:58,880 is to review and approve the fiscal year 22 to 26 preliminary CIP list of projects. 1086 01:33:59,580 --> 01:34:05,500 And then the second ask is to provide direction on the preliminary FY22 groundwater 1087 01:34:05,500 --> 01:34:13,020 charge analysis so that staff can consider that direction as we prepare the recommendations 1088 01:34:13,020 --> 01:34:18,860 that we're being including in the final pod report that schedule to be delivered later in February. 1089 01:34:19,700 --> 01:34:27,240 So with that, let's move to the next slide and just kind of show the outline of the presentation that we have before you. 1090 01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:32,760 It's got five parts. Part one is a discussion of the annual CIP process. 1091 01:34:33,440 --> 01:34:45,920 And then part two is highlights and updates on the preliminary FY22 to 26 CIP. Part three is a look at the preliminary financial forecast overview for funds 12 and 26. 1092 01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:59,960 And that's the watershed stream storage of fund and the Safe Clean Water or Measure S fund to give the board a complete picture and then part four is the FY22 groundwater production charge analysis and then next steps and at this point. 1093 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:29,840 There are the middle row, so October December, the CIP team evaluated projects, started doing the financial analysis. And then also the CIP committee reviewed the project plan of dates. And we just had that last meeting still last week, a follow-up meeting CIP committee meeting. So where we're at today is the board workshop and the funding scenarios looking at the preliminary CIP. So receiving the board direction regarding the preliminary list of projects that would provide an attachment to allow staff to proceed with preparing the draft. 1094 01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:43,000 Basically, you're 22, 26 CIP, the draft CIP is scheduled to bring back to the board and February where the board will review and authorized to release the draft for six to the public review period. 1095 01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:52,660 After public review and sponsors to comments are completed, the final CIP will be presented to the board in May for approval and conjunction with the 21, 22 budget. 1096 01:35:57,970 --> 01:36:08,750 Then capital projects are monitored each month by the CIP committee. This includes regular updates for projects in planning, designing construction phases, as well as amendments to the capital consultant agreements. 1097 01:36:09,410 --> 01:36:18,190 The CIP committee also reviews development of the five year CIP including review significant project plan updates and the draft preliminary CIP. 1098 01:36:21,810 --> 01:36:35,090 The capital project organized into project categories by type of, by type of the fund and we have the, we have water supply, we have flood protection, water stewardship, building ground and information technology. 1099 01:36:38,670 --> 01:36:49,930 The drivers for our capital project include the board ins policies which tie into the program plans master plans asset management program and as new projects are identified they're evaluated through the validation process. 1100 01:36:49,930 --> 01:36:53,330 before being proposed for inclusion into the CIP program. 1101 01:36:54,010 --> 01:36:57,370 Through this process, key considerations are regulatory requirements, 1102 01:36:58,270 --> 01:37:00,150 the repair and replacement of aging infrastructure, 1103 01:37:01,230 --> 01:37:06,330 value water commitments, such as to the safe clean water program and face water supply master plan, 1104 01:37:06,590 --> 01:37:09,590 and then also opportunities for leveraging external funding sources. 1105 01:37:14,300 --> 01:37:17,900 The key drivers for the water supply project is the water supply master plan, 1106 01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:20,560 which includes three stages to ensure sustainability. 1107 01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:30,340 So as you want to secure the water supply, which applies to the majority of the capital projects under water supply, water supply, mass supply and strategy 2 is to expand the water supply so 1108 01:37:30,340 --> 01:37:36,580 through water conservation, storm water capture, portable reuse projects, and then strategy 3 to optimize the existing infrastructure. 1109 01:37:40,570 --> 01:37:48,570 And then the voter approved measure S is another key driver for the capital agreement program, there's six priorities under the renewed measure, and those are shown here as a threat. 1110 01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:56,820 Now, the following slides include project highlights for each type of improvement in the CIP. 1111 01:37:57,540 --> 01:38:03,920 We've also linked each project to the key drivers and the water supply master plan and the safe thing water plan. 1112 01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:09,700 For water supply, we have 30 projects. Some of them to restore and secure existing infrastructure such as Anderson and Chaco. 1113 01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:13,840 And then we have projects to secure water conveyance, such as Omdamelli pipeline. 1114 01:38:14,480 --> 01:38:19,120 And we also have projects to improve and upgrade existing facilities of three water treatment plans. 1115 01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:25,040 I'm along with projects to expand water infrastructure, we also have the expedited water program. 1116 01:38:28,060 --> 01:38:39,740 All right, Valley Water has 18 active flood control projects, CIP categorizes these into their respective watersheds, and highlighted projects for each watershed are listed here. 1117 01:38:39,740 --> 01:38:40,200 But 1118 01:38:49,320 --> 01:38:58,220 the watershed stewardship highlights, we have a nine listed here, and we have the highlights environmental enhancement project highlights for health free. 1119 01:38:58,300 --> 01:39:00,720 How in a ballet and then these ability studies. 1120 01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:02,000 The watershed habitats. 1121 01:39:10,980 --> 01:39:19,560 And for there are eight projects in the category of building in grounds and 18, these projects meet the objectives of providing an efficient effective and safe work environment. 1122 01:39:20,580 --> 01:39:21,880 And those are listed here. 1123 01:39:30,110 --> 01:39:35,290 And the five capital projects are closing in fiscal year 2021, too, which have been removed, 1124 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:12,700 Included in future aspects, and then the 1st, 3rd and 5th, there are the main and the drone has been completed, along with the SMB mitigation and the e-discovery management system. So total being removed is 35.5 million. 1125 01:40:18,510 --> 01:40:27,250 And the next we have shown projects by fund, each individual fund here. Now, these have gone through the CIP committees. 1126 01:40:27,250 --> 01:40:31,570 And when reviewed, there's a significant host to projects here. 1127 01:40:32,090 --> 01:40:34,450 Again, there's not any new projects. 1128 01:40:34,590 --> 01:40:38,690 So what's shown here is project updates both to time and schedule. 1129 01:40:39,230 --> 01:40:40,650 And can also be project budget. 1130 01:40:41,190 --> 01:40:45,630 So we've highlighted a few, but of course if the board would like to discuss any of these in detail, 1131 01:40:45,790 --> 01:40:48,930 we can have the relevant DO go into a little more detail. 1132 01:40:49,230 --> 01:40:52,230 But once we highlighted here was obviously just coming off the discussion. 1133 01:40:52,230 --> 01:40:59,570 regarding Pacheco being a major impact to the program and still some things to be worked out there, 1134 01:40:59,570 --> 01:41:01,090 but you see that highlighted in red. 1135 01:41:03,260 --> 01:41:04,700 And so these are the fund 61 project. 1136 01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:06,960 There's a few more slides to show on these. 1137 01:41:11,810 --> 01:41:17,030 We also highlighted in red here below is the tenure pipeline and inspection rehabilitation program. 1138 01:41:17,150 --> 01:41:21,850 The reason I shown in red is just that if you look at the funds on your spreadsheet, 1139 01:41:21,950 --> 01:41:24,610 you'll see a bunch of funds shown there. 1140 01:41:24,610 --> 01:41:30,970 These, this one was updated thereafter and so you're increasing the project cost by about 30 million 1141 01:41:30,970 --> 01:41:36,570 over its lifespan. But this is highlighting just the highlight that it's not matching up with 1142 01:41:36,570 --> 01:41:40,410 what we have on the spreadsheet. So it'll be updated incorporated as part of the drafts yet. 1143 01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:51,460 And these are the last of the 61 funds that he's just listing some of the small cap updates that we're 1144 01:41:51,460 --> 01:41:53,880 reviewed again with CFP committee. 1145 01:41:57,940 --> 01:42:02,340 The next will look at fund 12 for the watershed stream 1146 01:42:02,340 --> 01:42:03,940 stewardship funds. 1147 01:42:10,380 --> 01:42:14,040 These fund 12 projects have undergone significant changes as compared to last year. 1148 01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:18,160 Some of the just highlights there are the follow up of the flood basin. I've gotten a lot of 1149 01:42:18,160 --> 01:42:19,900 attention as well as shoreline and more barriers. 1150 01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:27,140 And then these are the fund 26 projectively to 1151 01:42:27,140 --> 01:42:30,140 save clean water natural flood protection project updates. 1152 01:42:38,420 --> 01:42:40,500 Yes, so you saw a pretty August there and 1153 01:42:40,500 --> 01:42:43,060 and then I've jumping forward to, 1154 01:42:44,370 --> 01:42:47,510 jumping forward to, okay, here we go. 1155 01:42:47,930 --> 01:42:50,910 So fun 71 equipment fund, we have no updates on that. 1156 01:42:50,910 --> 01:42:52,990 And then the general fund, we're fund 11. 1157 01:42:53,170 --> 01:42:55,590 Again, we're highlighting in red here just to show 1158 01:42:55,590 --> 01:42:57,490 that this isn't necessarily included 1159 01:42:57,490 --> 01:42:59,810 on the spreadsheet that you have of the multiple projects. 1160 01:43:00,130 --> 01:43:01,810 So this will be added and wrapped in 1161 01:43:01,810 --> 01:43:04,390 to the draft CIP as part of the next stage 1162 01:43:04,390 --> 01:43:05,090 with those updates. 1163 01:43:11,340 --> 01:43:13,040 All right, the number of our projects are funded 1164 01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:16,320 by outside sources between fiscal year 22 and 26, 1165 01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:19,980 value water expects to receive 352 million 1166 01:43:19,980 --> 01:43:21,760 in grants, cost sharing, and state 1167 01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:24,080 prevention, and other reimbursements. 1168 01:43:29,810 --> 01:43:31,650 Four projects are partially funded by state 1169 01:43:31,650 --> 01:43:33,090 flood control submissions program. 1170 01:43:33,090 --> 01:43:35,250 This program accounts for 5 million of cost 1171 01:43:35,250 --> 01:43:36,390 and lower penitentiant. 1172 01:43:36,810 --> 01:43:39,510 3 million of cutting-hand flood detention certification 1173 01:43:39,510 --> 01:43:42,170 project, 9 million for lower silver creek. 1174 01:43:42,510 --> 01:43:44,730 And for lower Yagas Creek capacity restoration 1175 01:43:44,730 --> 01:43:47,290 oversee 1.1 million of funding from the program. 1176 01:43:48,190 --> 01:43:49,530 Unless otherwise directed by the board, 1177 01:43:49,590 --> 01:43:51,030 these reimbursements will be applied 1178 01:43:51,030 --> 01:43:53,950 to the respective operating and capital reserve funds. 1179 01:44:02,650 --> 01:44:03,990 We jump ahead to the next one. 1180 01:44:11,970 --> 01:44:13,530 Just figure out next slide. 1181 01:44:26,200 --> 01:44:29,080 I think just to have a difficulty there. 1182 01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:30,720 Maybe there's technical difficulties. 1183 01:44:30,860 --> 01:44:33,760 The next slide would show that for fiscal years, 1184 01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:39,100 20 through 26, the preliminary CIP, maybe she can get back up. 1185 01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:41,460 But essentially we're capturing over 80 projects. 1186 01:44:41,900 --> 01:44:45,040 Total of cost is about seven and a half billion dollars 1187 01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:48,380 on the bulk of which is comprised with why utility projects, 1188 01:44:48,380 --> 01:44:55,860 which is 5.3 billion of that 7.5 and then we had a breakdown of those if she can get those back up. 1189 01:44:58,630 --> 01:44:59,970 You know I'm wondering if we can try planned. 1190 01:45:07,890 --> 01:45:27,050 Great. Good. Great to have a backup. Thanks, Carmen. So, here's that. Here's that breakdown again. So, the total projects across that were looking at for fiscal year 22 to 26. So, roughly seven and a half billion 5.3 of that's through water supply and then the breakdown between flood protection, stewardship, building in grounds and so forth. 1191 01:45:31,740 --> 01:45:41,420 And then the next step will be for staff to compile the draft fiscal years 22 to 26 capital agreement program to bring back to the board for approval on February 23rd. 1192 01:45:46,220 --> 01:45:53,300 And then with that, if you don't have questions and those particular items, the next I'll turn it back over to Darren and you'll jump in this one question. 1193 01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:54,900 Certainly through the chair. 1194 01:45:55,480 --> 01:45:56,540 Each 15. 1195 01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:18,240 So these projects that are all done other than the salt ponds, 1196 01:46:18,460 --> 01:46:22,000 like as e-discovery management system done. 1197 01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:22,480 Right. 1198 01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:26,540 Yeah, those will be closed out before the end of this fiscal year. 1199 01:46:26,980 --> 01:46:31,020 And the 70 in the west side, we tailor inner ties, that's a done project. 1200 01:46:31,020 --> 01:46:36,360 So the west side, we're retailed in a twice, the second one down, and the fourth one down, 1201 01:46:36,420 --> 01:46:39,740 they're actually getting wrapped up into other projects. 1202 01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:43,360 So those are the ones I was coming to, and none that actually being removed. 1203 01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:49,980 So we were closing out the budget for them, but west side in particular I think is going to be wrapped up into 1204 01:46:49,980 --> 01:46:57,160 a asset management study plan to ensure where we need them and when, and so we're moving that one. 1205 01:46:57,160 --> 01:47:09,260 And the salt puns of restoration, maybe you've reached out to pitch in my understanding was I think it is being partially done through operations and part of it's being pulled out to be done in a later date. 1206 01:47:09,500 --> 01:47:10,440 Okay, thank you. 1207 01:47:10,540 --> 01:47:10,800 Just so. 1208 01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:12,000 Go ahead. 1209 01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:15,180 Do I need to dive into salt puns at all? 1210 01:47:16,140 --> 01:47:16,280 Okay. 1211 01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:19,820 I was in asking about it, but if you want to, it's up to the bellar. 1212 01:47:21,100 --> 01:47:25,620 So the salt pond is really part of what is it streams stewardship division, but I 1213 01:47:25,620 --> 01:47:40,580 can understand that the portion removed here really relates to when we do our stream removal efforts in the creeks and it's relocated there, so it's really been identified as more of an operations and maintenance program. So that's why that was. 1214 01:47:41,820 --> 01:47:47,360 Okay, I guess my one comment here is the West 7, 18,000 that's kind of a little bit 1215 01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:52,380 below what we should be doing at a board level policy, per view of stuff we should. I'm not 1216 01:47:52,380 --> 01:47:57,720 trying to diminish dollars to stick to things in the millions and you know, tens and millions 1217 01:47:57,720 --> 01:48:05,770 not with thousands or tens of dollars. We'll go crazy. Thank you. Sure, no taking. All right, thank you. 1218 01:48:07,770 --> 01:48:09,190 Thank you, Chief. Questions? 1219 01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:16,700 All right, then next group of slides is with Darren and 1220 01:48:16,700 --> 01:48:24,180 show you how these projects are affecting rates and whatnot. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. So let's move 1221 01:48:24,180 --> 01:48:31,540 to the next slide slide 29 and the next slide will provide an overview of the watershed stream 1222 01:48:31,540 --> 01:48:38,920 stewardship fund and the graph here shows the projected revenues and operations cost and capital 1223 01:48:38,920 --> 01:48:46,660 costs over the next 10 years for that fund and the key to reading this fund is just to take a look at 1224 01:48:46,660 --> 01:48:52,780 blue bars which represent the reserve balances and compare the blue bars relative to the dashed 1225 01:48:52,780 --> 01:48:58,200 line which is the reserve policy minimum. And as you can see that over the next 10 years, 1226 01:48:58,380 --> 01:49:04,640 this projection is healthy. The blue bars are above the reserve policy minimum for all of the 1227 01:49:04,640 --> 01:49:10,540 10 years and that's that's a good sign. With regard to the key assumptions listed on the right 1228 01:49:10,540 --> 01:49:16,000 side of the slide. We've got a couple listed there. In terms of the open space credit transfer, 1229 01:49:16,500 --> 01:49:24,080 this projection includes $15 million over the next 10 years in terms of transfer of funds 1230 01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:29,800 from the watershed stream stewardship fund to the Water Utility Fund to pay for the open space credit. 1231 01:49:30,220 --> 01:49:37,960 This particular open space credit transfer amount assumes a agricultural charge set at 25% of the 1232 01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:08,960 21 for agriculture at $28.86 per acre foot. And this particular assumption would carry out the board's 1233 01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:15,860 direction set back in April of 2019 to eliminate the discretionary portion of the open space 1234 01:50:15,860 --> 01:50:17,980 credit beginning in FY22. 1235 01:50:20,220 --> 01:50:27,040 The other is the ONM maintenance placeholder. We have included in this 1236 01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:34,300 particular $4 cash $2 million per year for FY22 to $25 and $7 million per year for FY26 FY31. 1237 01:50:34,380 --> 01:50:41,660 That's a total of $50 million and we heard Aaron Baker with an earlier talk about the 1238 01:50:41,660 --> 01:50:48,220 ONM forecast and that they're going to be doing more planning efforts over the next year or so 1239 01:50:48,220 --> 01:50:54,600 to identify projects that would, this placeholder would translate into, but for now we've got 1240 01:50:54,600 --> 01:51:00,900 a placeholder 50 million and Aaron Baker mentioned that you think that the overall maintenance 1241 01:51:00,900 --> 01:51:05,040 obligation is to the two of them about a hundred million dollars over the next ten years. 1242 01:51:05,180 --> 01:51:08,540 So about half of it funded through this placeholder, if you will. 1243 01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:13,820 So with that, let's look at the next slide, which is another look at the watershed stream 1244 01:51:13,820 --> 01:51:19,520 storage of fund, but change in assumptions, and that's noted in red on the right-hand side 1245 01:51:19,520 --> 01:51:26,880 the slide. In this case the open space credit transfer amount is $23.4 million over the next 1246 01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:31,900 10 years instead of $15 million. So an increase of $8.4 million being transferred to the 1247 01:51:31,900 --> 01:51:37,100 warranty utility. And this open space credit transfer amount assumes that the agricultural 1248 01:51:37,100 --> 01:51:44,220 charge is set at 10 percent of the zone W8 M and I charge or in this case $34 and 14 sense 1249 01:51:44,220 --> 01:51:54,020 in FI-22 relative to the current charge of $28 in 86 cents per acre foot and just a note that the 1250 01:51:54,020 --> 01:52:00,580 agricultural advisory committee met on January 4th and ended pass a motion requesting that the board 1251 01:52:00,580 --> 01:52:06,840 consider continuing the discretionary portion of the open space credit given the passage of measure s, 1252 01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:11,880 which has relieved some of the financial pressure in the future for for Valley Water. 1253 01:52:11,880 --> 01:52:18,760 And so as I mentioned, the impact to watershed streams stewardship of doing that is $8.4 million 1254 01:52:18,760 --> 01:52:25,640 over the next 10 years, the other part of the impact is another $8.4 million to the general fund. 1255 01:52:25,800 --> 01:52:31,300 So the board may recall that 50% of the open-space credit transfer comes from the watershed stream 1256 01:52:31,300 --> 01:52:34,660 store to fund and 50% comes from the general fund. 1257 01:52:34,660 --> 01:52:38,140 So if you add up those two impacts 8.4 million and 8.4 million, 1258 01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:43,160 the total impact is about $17 million over the next 10 years 1259 01:52:43,980 --> 01:52:47,780 to do this particular scenario to restore essentially 1260 01:52:47,780 --> 01:52:50,040 the discretionary portion of the open space credit. 1261 01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:53,860 And just to remind you, the general fund is a fund 1262 01:52:53,860 --> 01:52:57,420 that is sourced by a small amount of 1% 1263 01:52:57,420 --> 01:53:00,740 avalanct copy taxes to the tune of about $9 million a year. 1264 01:53:01,140 --> 01:53:04,520 And the rest of the funding comes from the overhead charges 1265 01:53:04,520 --> 01:53:09,860 which are allocated to the water utility and the watershed stream stewardship and the safe clean water fund. 1266 01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:15,560 And so I want to make sure that the board understood the full impact of this particular scenario. 1267 01:53:16,480 --> 01:53:21,520 So with that, I will, unless there's any questions, I will move on to the safe clean water fund. 1268 01:53:23,140 --> 01:53:23,400 Questions? 1269 01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:27,260 Okay. 1270 01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:29,900 So move it on to safe clean water. 1271 01:53:30,680 --> 01:53:57,620 So, this is our measure S fund, if you will, and again, the way to read this particular graph, is by King in on the blue bars, which represent the reserve balances, and this is reflecting the entire 15 years of the first or the first 15 years, if you will, of measure S. And by looking at the blue bars, you can see that there is, there is a little bit of trouble that we need to address in FY 28, we've got a negative reserve balance. 1272 01:53:57,620 --> 01:54:05,920 And by FY36, by the 15th year, our reserve balance is only $12 million, and that's 1273 01:54:05,920 --> 01:54:11,840 $78 million less than what we had projected in the original measure at the plan. 1274 01:54:12,540 --> 01:54:18,700 And the reason for that is, cost increases for a couple of capital projects, including 1275 01:54:18,700 --> 01:54:24,780 Upper Yagas, and Auburn Lake, and San Francisco, to Cric, that the board just heard about. 1276 01:54:24,780 --> 01:54:31,060 And other key assumptions that are baked into this projection are listed at the top of the right-hand side of the slide. 1277 01:54:31,100 --> 01:54:39,860 This does assume an $80 million reimbursement from NRCS for the Upper Yagus Creek Project, a fully-construct phase two of that project. 1278 01:54:40,060 --> 01:54:54,740 It also assumes $20 million worth of grants and partnership revenue receipts through the San Francisco Creek San Francisco, 1279 01:54:54,740 --> 01:54:59,980 question and looking at this graph is well how do we address the shortfall. We've got 1280 01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:29,700 So, I have to schedule an April 7 situation for the report. Monica from adjourned. 1281 01:55:29,700 --> 01:55:35,140 looking at potential schedule adjustments to projects without impacting the commitment to voters. 1282 01:55:35,640 --> 01:55:38,420 Also, we're looking at project costs, sharpening our pencil. 1283 01:55:38,980 --> 01:55:45,400 If you will, to see if there's any cost reductions that we could find, we're looking at borrowing rates. 1284 01:55:45,520 --> 01:55:50,180 We know that the borrowing rates have decreased since the preparation of the original measure as plan. 1285 01:55:51,200 --> 01:55:56,940 We believe there's cost savings there. Looking at cost allocation adjustments between fund 1286 01:55:57,760 --> 01:56:05,100 As we just saw, fun 12 is healthy and fun 26 is not so looking at some potential 1287 01:56:05,100 --> 01:56:09,320 allocations of costs between those two to balance things out could be another potential 1288 01:56:09,320 --> 01:56:11,640 option to solve this issue. 1289 01:56:12,260 --> 01:56:17,880 And staff plans to present proposed adjustments as part of the five year implementation plan 1290 01:56:17,880 --> 01:56:25,780 that staff will be working on in the board would see that for sure by June of 2021. 1291 01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:33,060 So I'll pause there and move on to what are utility unless you have any questions. 1292 01:56:33,440 --> 01:56:33,900 Questions? 1293 01:56:34,660 --> 01:56:35,660 Direct the key again? 1294 01:56:41,190 --> 01:56:41,670 This is okay. 1295 01:56:41,750 --> 01:56:42,030 Sorry. 1296 01:56:42,270 --> 01:56:46,850 I did not mean to I was locked out of the meeting for minutes. 1297 01:56:47,210 --> 01:56:47,950 Thank you. 1298 01:56:48,610 --> 01:56:49,170 Okay. 1299 01:56:49,170 --> 01:56:49,810 Any other questions? 1300 01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:53,240 Okay. 1301 01:56:54,300 --> 01:56:54,740 Okay. 1302 01:56:55,280 --> 01:56:58,020 So let's move to the next slide. 1303 01:56:58,200 --> 01:56:58,780 Beyond this one. 1304 01:56:59,060 --> 01:56:59,780 We'll get into the. 1305 01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:03,560 Daren hold on a second. I'm sorry. I couldn't get myself 1306 01:57:03,560 --> 01:57:09,200 unmuted. So, go on back to the open space credit. 1307 01:57:10,320 --> 01:57:12,940 Daren, I know you're doing what you were told. 1308 01:57:14,260 --> 01:57:22,920 So, it's really annoying to me that after the very serious and lengthy and 1309 01:57:22,920 --> 01:57:27,680 thoughtful conversation we had two years ago about the open space credit, 1310 01:57:27,680 --> 01:57:38,680 I mean, it was near unanimous if I'm not mistaken, and several board members were very pointed in their comments that this was it. 1311 01:57:38,860 --> 01:57:47,880 We were going to go to 25% and we gave the agricultural community two years to figure out an alternative source. 1312 01:57:47,880 --> 01:57:59,240 And, you know, my understanding is they met little of any, and I understand last year was COVID, but there's there's zoom. 1313 01:58:00,160 --> 01:58:14,500 And so to not only have this 10% presented to the board, but also to have it presented to the Ag Committee, as, you know, something we would consider is just really annoying. 1314 01:58:14,500 --> 01:58:23,680 You know, we made very clear statements that we wanted to go to 25 percent, you know, you're talking about 17 million dollars. 1315 01:58:25,220 --> 01:58:35,920 And, you know, I hope that we have a discussion about this when the presentations are done, but I wanted to make the comment, you know, while this was in front of us. Thank you. 1316 01:58:38,840 --> 01:58:46,660 Any other comments? Okay. Okay. We'll have a discussion now at the end. Okay. 1317 01:58:47,940 --> 01:58:55,440 All right. Thank you. And so, so moving on into the the the one utility rate portion of the 1318 01:58:55,440 --> 01:59:00,580 presentation, the topics are listed here. I'll spend most of the time talking about two scenarios 1319 01:59:00,580 --> 01:59:08,260 that staff has prepared for board review. And if we move to the next slide, I'll dive into the 1320 01:59:08,260 --> 01:59:20,980 The first topic, which is the water usage topic, and this is the graph that the board has seen on many occasions, it's the valley water managed water use that translates to revenue for valley water. 1321 01:59:21,140 --> 01:59:27,960 It's an stacked bar format with treated water at the bottom, and then groundwater right above that in the small amount of surface and recycled water. 1322 01:59:27,960 --> 01:59:35,120 Green is the actuals, the red in FY20 is the estimated actual at 232,000 acre feet. 1323 01:59:35,320 --> 01:59:39,860 It's probably very close to the actual, just a reminder that we do have many wells that are 1324 01:59:39,860 --> 01:59:44,580 unmetered. And so it takes us a little while to finalize that number for FY20. 1325 01:59:45,380 --> 01:59:50,240 And then for FY21, there's our budgeted amount of water usage at 233,000 acre feet. 1326 01:59:50,540 --> 01:59:55,560 And then for FY22, we're looking at 232,000 acre feet in terms of a projection. 1327 01:59:55,560 --> 01:59:59,320 we feel pretty good about this projection so far in FY21. 1328 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:15,380 Come over. This cost projection is in a stacked bar format starting from the bottom. We've got our sources to apply, cost center, that includes things like important water, groundwater management, conservation activities, recycled water activities, and the Delta Convance Project. 1329 02:00:16,180 --> 02:00:23,480 And then, beginning in FY28, we've got the P3 water services agreement in yellow, beginning in that particular year. 1330 02:00:23,480 --> 02:00:53,460 And then, right above that, raw water costs, and then an gray water treatment costs, and then in light blue are support services, including things like division management and customer relations, revenue collection, meter reading, long term planning, all those types of activities fall under that cost center, and then in green right above that is our debt service projection, which is growing, based on projected periodic debt issuances to provide upfront funding for the capital program. 1331 02:00:53,480 --> 02:00:58,540 which is at the very top, that's the top portion of the stack bar in light blue, if you will. 1332 02:00:58,860 --> 02:01:03,260 That's the capital projection, which is the key driver of the water rate projection. 1333 02:01:03,980 --> 02:01:12,140 And beginning in FY25, you see pretty large portions of that bar there, driven by the particular reservoir expansion project. 1334 02:01:12,840 --> 02:01:21,020 And any one of those years in FY25 and beyond, we're looking at $250 million worth of capital costs for that project alone. 1335 02:01:23,040 --> 02:01:27,980 One of the, one other thing to note about this graphic is we will, we will make a small 1336 02:01:27,980 --> 02:01:35,200 correction to this graphic going forward. As you see, the sources apply category drops in 1337 02:01:35,200 --> 02:01:41,580 in 2028. And that's a, that's a mistake in, in our bucketing, that portion of the stack 1338 02:01:41,580 --> 02:01:46,140 bar should continue along the trend that you see in FY27. And the green portion of where 1339 02:01:46,140 --> 02:01:49,580 the debt service is, is a little too high. So we kind of misbuck it in those things, 1340 02:01:49,580 --> 02:01:52,900 what will correct them in future versions of this graphic, 1341 02:01:53,080 --> 02:01:56,140 but the total column is the right size 1342 02:01:56,140 --> 02:01:58,160 for FY28 through FY31. 1343 02:01:59,120 --> 02:02:00,680 So apologies for that. 1344 02:02:01,380 --> 02:02:03,780 And then moving on to the scenario assumptions, 1345 02:02:03,940 --> 02:02:05,200 I did want to take a little bit of time 1346 02:02:05,200 --> 02:02:08,080 and kind of walk through the scenario assumptions 1347 02:02:08,640 --> 02:02:09,360 for the board. 1348 02:02:09,420 --> 02:02:12,640 We've got scenario one on the left and scenario two 1349 02:02:12,640 --> 02:02:13,640 on the right. 1350 02:02:13,860 --> 02:02:16,020 That's the scenario without particular reservoir. 1351 02:02:16,020 --> 02:02:24,200 So going looking at scenario one, first the key assumption there is this includes baseline projects and what do we mean by that? 1352 02:02:24,480 --> 02:02:36,900 We mean projects that are currently listed in the CIP current assets, things like the dam seismic retrofits, the Rinkanata water treatment plant, reliability improvement, tenure pipeline work so and so forth. 1353 02:02:36,900 --> 02:02:37,960 So that's what's included. 1354 02:02:38,880 --> 02:02:41,820 The next line item there is the Delta Convance 1355 02:02:41,820 --> 02:02:44,640 of Project or Participation Assumption. 1356 02:02:45,200 --> 02:02:48,720 The board authorized participation at 2.73% 1357 02:02:48,720 --> 02:02:52,940 and up to 3.23% if the opportunity presented itself 1358 02:02:52,940 --> 02:02:54,700 and my understanding is that that opportunity 1359 02:02:54,700 --> 02:02:57,780 did present itself and we are taking advantage of that. 1360 02:02:57,780 --> 02:03:00,000 So what we've modeled for this scenario 1361 02:03:00,000 --> 02:03:05,600 is participation at the 3.23% level, right below that, 1362 02:03:05,600 --> 02:03:11,640 the Anderson Dam seismic retrofit. For this particular model we have modeled a wiffy alone 1363 02:03:12,240 --> 02:03:19,000 for Anderson Dam at of course 49% of the total project costs. Right below that we've got the 1364 02:03:19,000 --> 02:03:28,430 purified water project delivered via a P3 entity and we assume that the P3 entity would 1365 02:03:29,080 --> 02:03:35,160 100% that finance a particular project. Right below that is a particular reservoir. These 1366 02:03:35,600 --> 02:03:40,400 assumptions associated with that project or familiar to the board, the prop one funding with 1367 02:03:40,400 --> 02:03:47,800 the alone and that partner agencies would pay 20% or partner to the tune of 20% of the project. 1368 02:03:48,240 --> 02:03:53,760 Right below that, we've included transfer Bethany pipeline. We have a fairly old cost estimate 1369 02:03:53,760 --> 02:03:59,560 included in there. We believe it's a conservative but we're waiting on additional 1370 02:04:00,280 --> 02:04:06,260 or an updated version of the financial model from Contra Costa water district. 1371 02:04:06,480 --> 02:04:11,440 It's called version 5.0. We believe we'll get that model in the April or May timeframe, 1372 02:04:11,620 --> 02:04:17,640 which would help us refine that transfer Bethany pipeline estimate, and also help us put together 1373 02:04:17,640 --> 02:04:22,510 an estimate to show the impact of low-specaros expansion should the board like to see that. 1374 02:04:23,290 --> 02:04:30,850 Right below that is a line item called Master Plan Projects PlaySolder, and so what is that? 1375 02:04:30,970 --> 02:04:36,630 Well, in talking to Chief Baker and his staff, the board may recall that last year, the board 1376 02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:21,460 To assume a placeholder for projects that are likely to come out of that master planning effort. And just projects related to upgrading the system of assets that we currently had have projects like new pipelines or pipeline rehabilitations, treatment plan upgrades and skated implementation projects. 1377 02:05:21,860 --> 02:05:25,480 And so we felt it was prudent to include this placeholder in the rate projection. 1378 02:05:25,480 --> 02:05:29,540 even though it's not in the CIP, it's in the rate projection, so I want to make sure that the 1379 02:05:29,540 --> 02:05:35,620 board was aware of that. To the tune of $346 million over the next 10 years, most of that costs 1380 02:05:35,620 --> 02:05:42,320 in the latter of the next 10-year timeframe. And then right below that, our assumption with regard 1381 02:05:42,320 --> 02:05:47,520 to the treated water search charge, this preliminary analysis assumes an increase in the treated 1382 02:05:47,520 --> 02:05:56,360 water search charge to $115 pricker foot relative to $100 pricker foot that it is today. We believe 1383 02:05:56,360 --> 02:06:02,280 that that increasing it to $115 pricker foot would put us closer to the point of neutrality 1384 02:06:02,280 --> 02:06:08,260 where a retailer would be indifferent economically as to whether to take treated water or take water 1385 02:06:08,260 --> 02:06:14,580 from the ground and right now we believe at $100 pricker foot. It's tilted in favor of a retailer choosing 1386 02:06:14,580 --> 02:06:19,520 treated water. And then finally, the final assumption for scenario one is that the agricultural 1387 02:06:19,520 --> 02:06:27,680 charge is set at 25% of the zone WM and I charge or $85.35 per acre foot. And then moving 1388 02:06:27,680 --> 02:06:32,200 over to the right scenario two, this is the scenario with Alpachekos who in red font you see how 1389 02:06:32,200 --> 02:06:38,340 we've crossed out the Pachekos reservoir project for this particular scenario. And then also scenario 1390 02:06:38,340 --> 02:06:44,440 two includes a down at the bottom setting the agricultural charge at 10% of the zone WM and I charge 1391 02:06:44,440 --> 02:06:49,640 or $34.14 per acre foot for the purposes of this scenario. 1392 02:06:50,760 --> 02:06:56,920 So either scenario would meet the water supply master plan level of service goal of 80% 1393 02:06:56,920 --> 02:07:00,360 of average annual water demand in drought years. 1394 02:07:01,520 --> 02:07:03,880 So if we take a look at the next slide we'll show you the impact 1395 02:07:04,440 --> 02:07:07,260 on the water rates of these two scenarios. 1396 02:07:07,880 --> 02:07:13,560 And this slide shows the M&I groundwater charge year to year growth percentage 1397 02:07:13,560 --> 02:07:16,660 across the four zones, down on the left, 1398 02:07:17,120 --> 02:07:20,660 W2, W5, W7, W8, and so for W2, 1399 02:07:20,720 --> 02:07:23,500 that's the North County Zone, scenario one. 1400 02:07:23,760 --> 02:07:27,660 We show a 9.8% per year increase in the M&I 1401 02:07:27,660 --> 02:07:29,680 ground, on our charge for the next four years. 1402 02:07:30,020 --> 02:07:33,600 And then it tapers down to 9.3% beginning in FY26. 1403 02:07:34,180 --> 02:07:37,380 And then further tapering down to 8.7% in FY30. 1404 02:07:37,740 --> 02:07:41,080 Now, if you remove the Partico Reservoir Expansion Project, 1405 02:07:41,080 --> 02:07:48,400 we go down a little bit in F522 down to 9.5% and then to 8.2% and F523. 1406 02:07:48,660 --> 02:07:54,940 So that's a 1.6% differential between the F523 rate for the two scenarios. 1407 02:07:55,400 --> 02:08:02,140 9.8 versus 8.2% and then we carry on at 8.2% until it tapers to 5% and F530. 1408 02:08:03,160 --> 02:08:10,340 For zone W5, that's the the the zone over laying the Yaga sub basin in the South County for the scenario with 1409 02:08:10,340 --> 02:08:15,400 Pachaco where at 4.6% for the tenure timeframe and then 3.8% without Pachaco. 1410 02:08:15,840 --> 02:08:23,120 Zone W7 is the coyote valley zone at 10.3% with Pachaco, 8.1% for the next 10 years without Pachaco. 1411 02:08:23,120 --> 02:08:36,100 And then zone W8, that's the small zone right below Chesbro and U.S. reservoirs at 4.4% for both scenarios, which makes sense because the particular reservoir expansion project doesn't benefit that particular zone. 1412 02:08:36,920 --> 02:08:46,120 And if we move to the next slide, this next slide shows the monthly impact to the average household from these two scenarios. 1413 02:08:46,120 --> 02:08:52,080 And I'll just kind of focus on the FY-22 year for North County Zone W2. 1414 02:08:52,240 --> 02:09:00,520 You see the range of impact there from $4.50 to $4.64 based on the two scenarios for 1415 02:09:00,520 --> 02:09:06,760 Zone W5, the youngest sub-basin zone, less than $1.00 is the range there in FY-22. 1416 02:09:07,100 --> 02:09:13,780 And then the Coyote Valley Zone W7 ranging from $1.34 to $1.71, and then South County Zone 1417 02:09:13,780 --> 02:09:17,960 W8 at 50 cents for both of those scenarios. 1418 02:09:18,720 --> 02:09:23,160 And I should add that this particular analysis doesn't include 1419 02:09:23,160 --> 02:09:26,300 any increase that a retailer would layer on top 1420 02:09:26,300 --> 02:09:30,560 of the valley water increase in wholesale water rates. 1421 02:09:30,780 --> 02:09:32,580 And I also should mention that some retailers 1422 02:09:33,300 --> 02:09:35,380 have a mix of wholesale water supplies, 1423 02:09:35,480 --> 02:09:39,860 which would cause further variation in this particular analysis. 1424 02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:10,260 Over the next 10 years for the various zones, and also showing for comparison purposes are neighbor to the North, the San Francisco PUC and the red dash line there. 1425 02:10:11,160 --> 02:10:15,880 And we probably should have added a couple of labels here so that you could see what the rates are. 1426 02:10:16,220 --> 02:10:23,820 And so let me just speak to a couple of those very quickly. And if you look at the solid blue line, that's the North County M and I charge for zone W two. 1427 02:10:23,820 --> 02:10:31,400 You look at FY20, the rate there was $1,374 per acre foot, FY20, and of course the board shows 1428 02:10:31,400 --> 02:10:38,540 to hold rates flat in FY21, so remaining at 1374. And then for scenario 1 for FY22, 1429 02:10:38,940 --> 02:10:46,480 that rate would go to 1509 per acre foot for the M and I charge. And then just looking at South 1430 02:10:46,480 --> 02:10:51,760 County M and I zone W7, that's the zone with the highest rate projection. It's in the bronze 1431 02:10:51,760 --> 02:10:59,640 color there for FY20 we're at $481 pricker foot holding flat and FY21 to $481 and then going 1432 02:10:59,640 --> 02:11:03,060 to $531 pricker foot for FY22. 1433 02:11:05,670 --> 02:11:09,370 So moving on to the next slide we'll talk about some other 1434 02:11:10,310 --> 02:11:22,910 charges and other information that this table compares FY21 to FY22 so looking at the contract 1435 02:11:22,910 --> 02:11:29,050 and increase in that contract treaty water search charge from $115 from $100 dollars from $100 dollars 1436 02:11:29,050 --> 02:11:34,030 per foot to $115 dollars per acre foot. Non contract treaty water search charge, the analysis 1437 02:11:34,030 --> 02:11:39,270 assumes maintaining that at $200 dollars per acre foot. And then a small increase in the surface water 1438 02:11:39,270 --> 02:11:46,990 master charge with regard to the state water project tax. For FY 2021 the budget shows a collection of 1439 02:11:46,990 --> 02:11:53,710 $18 million for the year, the cost of the average household is $27 per year, and then going 1440 02:11:53,710 --> 02:12:00,390 to $26 million collection in FY22, and the cost of the average household is $40 per year. 1441 02:12:01,470 --> 02:12:07,830 What we have included here, in terms of the rejection, is in terms of the South Bay aqueduct 1442 02:12:07,830 --> 02:12:12,990 repairs, we've included $50 million worth of cost that's probably on the low end, but we 1443 02:12:12,990 --> 02:12:19,910 want to include something there. That's for the repairs on the landslide area and so this 1444 02:12:19,910 --> 02:12:26,730 projection for the Statewater Project tax includes that. It would go from $26 million a year collection 1445 02:12:26,730 --> 02:12:33,690 in FY22 to $41 million a year collection by FY31 or 10 years later. So that's what we've assumed 1446 02:12:33,690 --> 02:12:42,470 for the Statewater Project tax. One other note there is that the the the the the the 1447 02:12:42,470 --> 02:12:47,510 for the county of a house of $828,000 in dyeing. 1448 02:12:48,590 --> 02:12:50,710 And right below that, we've got a small increase 1449 02:12:50,710 --> 02:12:52,550 in the 1% avalanche property taxes 1450 02:12:52,550 --> 02:12:55,030 that are allocated to the warranty utility 1451 02:12:55,570 --> 02:12:57,550 at the board's decision. 1452 02:12:57,790 --> 02:13:00,950 I dropped reserve of $10 million no change there 1453 02:13:00,950 --> 02:13:04,330 between the two years and then a cumulative amount 1454 02:13:04,330 --> 02:13:07,090 for the guiding principle number five funds 1455 02:13:07,450 --> 02:13:11,210 at $13.6 million in FY22. 1456 02:13:11,210 --> 02:13:11,250 So 1457 02:13:13,970 --> 02:13:20,230 next slide shows our schedule and I just want to point out a couple of key dates for the board. 1458 02:13:20,650 --> 02:13:24,850 The first is the February 26 date about a third of the way down the page. 1459 02:13:25,170 --> 02:13:33,250 That's a key date where we are scheduled to mail the notices of the public hearing to groundwater and surface water users. 1460 02:13:33,550 --> 02:13:38,990 And that's the date when we'll file the annual report on the protection augmentation of water supplies. 1461 02:13:38,990 --> 02:13:42,070 The next key date would be April 13th. 1462 02:13:42,070 --> 02:13:43,970 That's the opening of the public hearing. 1463 02:13:44,710 --> 02:13:47,270 And then that hearing would continue for a few more dates. 1464 02:13:47,750 --> 02:13:50,510 And then May 11th is the scheduled adoption of the budget 1465 02:13:50,510 --> 02:13:52,050 and groundware production charges. 1466 02:13:54,430 --> 02:13:56,570 And then the next slide is a summary slide. 1467 02:13:57,810 --> 02:14:02,170 At the very top, again, just to summarize the annual increases 1468 02:14:02,170 --> 02:14:04,510 to the M&I groundwater charge for the scenarios. 1469 02:14:04,510 --> 02:14:21,270 listed in the sub bullets there across the various zones. The next bullet shows the the the per month average household increase based on the various scenarios across the the four zones and then at the bottom that's probably where the board should take a look. 1470 02:14:21,930 --> 02:14:25,590 Board direction on on these following issues on on these following issues. 1471 02:14:25,770 --> 02:14:29,370 Staff would like to incorporate that into the pause report. 1472 02:14:30,070 --> 02:14:32,750 And we've listed some of the issues that we've talked about. 1473 02:14:32,890 --> 02:14:38,750 First is the issue that Director of Resop mentioned, and I've discussed also in this presentation. 1474 02:14:38,830 --> 02:14:41,230 That's the agricultural charge for FY22. 1475 02:14:41,670 --> 02:14:47,430 Certainly would like to hear the board's input on that. 1476 02:14:47,430 --> 02:14:51,630 I'll take a reservoir expansion input on that would be very welcome. 1477 02:14:52,070 --> 02:14:56,330 We've talked about the treated water search charge increase to $115 per acre foot. 1478 02:14:56,330 --> 02:14:58,670 the Master Plan Project Placeholder. 1479 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:00,280 There, 1480 02:15:03,740 --> 02:15:15,000 I'd like to do is go through that list at the bottom, at the bottom of the summary so that we can perhaps give, give staff some direction. 1481 02:15:15,580 --> 02:15:21,900 But let me just see if there any questions before that. Are there any questions, information or questions? 1482 02:15:22,660 --> 02:15:27,680 And then we'll just go down the list. So we can provide staff some direction. 1483 02:15:27,680 --> 02:15:30,000 is early on in some first step. 1484 02:15:31,020 --> 02:15:33,220 So I think it's the right time to do it. 1485 02:15:33,540 --> 02:15:35,940 But anyway, any questions, kind of key. 1486 02:15:36,520 --> 02:15:37,720 That would be the key again. 1487 02:15:38,400 --> 02:15:38,900 Thank you. 1488 02:15:39,180 --> 02:15:43,760 My question is regarding the architectural charges. 1489 02:15:43,960 --> 02:15:48,160 Should I wait until we get to that point to ask my question? 1490 02:15:52,130 --> 02:15:54,710 No, you can ask it now because I'm just going to go down there. 1491 02:15:54,990 --> 02:15:55,990 Liz, I'm going to point that direction. 1492 02:15:57,390 --> 02:15:58,710 So yeah, I'm going to go ahead. 1493 02:15:58,710 --> 02:16:09,510 Yeah, so my question on the architectural charge and, you know, my recollections may not be as accurate as some of my colleagues. 1494 02:16:11,090 --> 02:16:26,310 But I guess I would like to know what, what other kinds of discretionary activities the board could use those funds. 1495 02:16:26,310 --> 02:16:35,450 if we were not, if there was not any proposal to go back to our old agricultural subsidies. 1496 02:16:36,370 --> 02:16:39,990 I mean, that's many that there are things that we could use for other purposes. 1497 02:16:40,270 --> 02:16:44,270 And I don't have an understanding of what that total amount is, 1498 02:16:44,790 --> 02:16:51,570 and how much it could be broken up like if it were to be shared equitably amongst the seven elected districts. 1499 02:16:51,570 --> 02:16:55,570 So if staff could respond to that. 1500 02:16:56,710 --> 02:16:57,770 Yeah, I'd be happy to. 1501 02:16:58,550 --> 02:17:04,010 So as I mentioned, the total impact between the two agricultural and charged scenarios 1502 02:17:04,490 --> 02:17:08,670 in terms of the open space credit is $17 million over the next 10 years. 1503 02:17:09,330 --> 02:17:13,950 And half of that impact is a direct impact to the watershed stream stewardship fund, 1504 02:17:14,230 --> 02:17:20,750 which primarily is a fund that is there to provide flood protection. 1505 02:17:21,870 --> 02:17:25,990 across a multiple, you know, many of variety of activities, 1506 02:17:26,210 --> 02:17:27,150 foot protection activities. 1507 02:17:27,910 --> 02:17:30,990 The other portion of the impact is the impact to the general fund. 1508 02:17:31,830 --> 02:17:35,730 And the general fund essentially receives its funding from the 1509 02:17:35,730 --> 02:17:38,190 water utility, the watershed stream stewardship, and the 1510 02:17:38,190 --> 02:17:42,090 safe clean water funds. And so what this, what the scenario would 1511 02:17:42,090 --> 02:17:48,790 do to increase the open space credit would, would 1512 02:17:48,790 --> 02:17:55,690 potentially put more pressure on those three funds through the general fund, through the overhead 1513 02:17:55,690 --> 02:18:00,330 allocations, which would be a little bit higher than the otherwise would. In general overhead 1514 02:18:00,330 --> 02:18:08,310 allocations are spread 60% to the water utility, 30% to the water shed stream stewardship, and 10% to the 1515 02:18:08,310 --> 02:18:14,390 safe clean water fund. And so those funds, you know, the impact would be to those funds according 1516 02:18:14,390 --> 02:18:16,810 to that waiting for 1517 02:18:18,860 --> 02:18:18,860 you. 1518 02:18:19,000 --> 02:18:22,400 Maybe I was unclear in my question. 1519 02:18:23,380 --> 02:18:29,860 It sounds as if funds would be allocated for agricultural 1520 02:18:29,860 --> 02:18:37,020 purposes, which would be in a relatively limited part 1521 02:18:37,020 --> 02:18:38,340 of the county. 1522 02:18:39,200 --> 02:18:43,840 I mean, I don't have a lot of agriculture in my district, for example. 1523 02:18:43,840 --> 02:18:50,680 And I don't think we have, I don't think I have any agricultural rate users in my district. 1524 02:18:51,580 --> 02:18:58,360 So, if we were to subsidize it, what does that mean in practical terms? 1525 02:18:59,120 --> 02:19:04,420 Like, you said part of it could be an issue with providing flood protection. 1526 02:19:04,720 --> 02:19:09,440 So money that could be used for flood protection purposes would be used for an agricultural subsidy. 1527 02:19:09,440 --> 02:19:16,840 that's one thing. And then the other source of funding could be used for, I mean, because 1528 02:19:16,840 --> 02:19:23,940 it's essentially general fund, it could be used for anything that we would like to see. Like, 1529 02:19:23,960 --> 02:19:31,120 for example, doing more homeless train-ups or providing, I don't know, additional educational 1530 02:19:31,120 --> 02:19:36,300 opportunities to schools, things of that nature. So am I wrong in my assumptions? 1531 02:19:36,300 --> 02:19:38,400 No, I think you're correct. 1532 02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:17,640 Those four, you know, essentially anything that falls under the district act purposes for valiant water. So it could be things like facilities. It could be further flood protection. It could be, you know, any other types of activities that fall under the mission of valiant water. 1533 02:20:18,280 --> 02:20:19,520 The amount of that. 1534 02:20:20,340 --> 02:20:29,020 And so the general fund impact over the next 10 years is also 8.4 million dollars. So 8.4 to the watershed stream storage fund. 1535 02:20:29,020 --> 02:20:36,180 That's sort of a direct flood protection impact 8.4 million to the general fund, which we more of a general impact as you've described. 1536 02:20:37,500 --> 02:20:40,360 Thank you. 1537 02:20:40,460 --> 02:20:41,160 Yeah, questions. 1538 02:20:45,200 --> 02:20:46,360 Okay, let's go down to Liz. 1539 02:20:46,620 --> 02:20:52,920 That was a question related to the first item on the list, which is the act charge of fiscal year 22. 1540 02:20:56,480 --> 02:20:57,920 Anybody want to open that discussion? 1541 02:21:00,200 --> 02:21:01,380 Oh, yeah, I'd like to talk. 1542 02:21:04,200 --> 02:21:26,860 So in reference to the possibility of reinstating the open space credit, if you recall back in 2018, I go, I think that's when we decided to sunset and that budget for two more years and it was sunset at the year 2021 is what I think the issue is that we're speaking to. 1543 02:21:26,860 --> 02:21:46,260 At that point, yes, it was board agreement that the open space credit would pretty much come to a close and that agriculture would have to find a way to resource funds to offset those costs and that's what the value of those funds on the water district. 1544 02:21:46,260 --> 02:22:01,420 And I just want to walk you through some of the procedures that the farmers and the Farm Bureau took during that timeline to actively pursue an alternative funding mechanism other than the open to dependence on the open space credit. 1545 02:22:01,420 --> 02:22:14,000 The county formed a committee of ag users, environmental groups, et cetera, and I was representing the water district on that committee. 1546 02:22:14,720 --> 02:22:29,600 And went on for one year of study as to how there could be a funding mechanism through the county to offset not just our costs or our office space credit, but other ways to maintain agriculture viability and throughout the county. 1547 02:22:29,600 --> 02:22:41,100 And I won't go through the entire year's process, but at the end of the year it came out that the county found 20 million dollars that they would be able to allocate towards agriculture. 1548 02:22:42,220 --> 02:22:56,020 And so that in itself was released from many perspectives because the committees findings were coming to a close at the end of the calendar year, but the determination was that the county was going to do its effort to present it to the board from the committee. 1549 02:22:56,020 --> 02:23:00,320 the opportunity to reserve those funding for agriculture purposes. 1550 02:23:01,500 --> 02:23:03,200 A subsequent, the board met. 1551 02:23:04,220 --> 02:23:09,520 And at the same time, through the course of events that were occurring, 1552 02:23:10,340 --> 02:23:16,560 three hospitals became available for acquiring by the county. 1553 02:23:17,380 --> 02:23:22,240 And they allocated those $20 reserves for agriculture purposes. 1554 02:23:22,760 --> 02:23:35,040 And I might not have all my values correct on this and exactly the language where we're taken from that funding mechanism and put into the fund and the acquisition of those hospitals did commence as we're all aware. 1555 02:23:35,760 --> 02:23:38,100 So that funding disappeared no longer was available. 1556 02:23:39,220 --> 02:23:47,900 So we went back to square one with the open space credit being the issue and how the farmers are going to find funding mechanisms ultimately they could not. 1557 02:23:47,900 --> 02:23:52,240 they tried it in every which way they could. As a representative of the water district, I attended 1558 02:23:52,240 --> 02:23:59,500 just by every single South County Ag Farm Bureau meeting and including director Santos, 1559 02:24:00,060 --> 02:24:07,960 who attended many of those meetings as well. Let's fast forward to 2020. When we were at that point 1560 02:24:07,960 --> 02:24:14,680 advocating to the Farm Bureau to support measure S and they had their committee meetings and they 1561 02:24:14,680 --> 02:24:20,780 If they were going to be able to benefit from the endorsement of measure S, how would they benefit from that? 1562 02:24:21,500 --> 02:24:28,420 So we assured them pretty much to conversation that we would do everything we could possibly, to perhaps card out some funding mechanisms from that. 1563 02:24:29,300 --> 02:24:36,840 And we published an article in the Broadcaster, speaking directly to their distribution network of the Farm Bureau, 1564 02:24:37,260 --> 02:24:42,800 and they in turn published a letter of endorsement supporting measure S. 1565 02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:07,900 Five measures to place on the ballot. And which we ultimately did so. Members of the Farm Bureau came in with 1566 02:25:07,900 --> 02:25:16,280 a letter of support in Dorsey, measure s, and allocating s, from the board of directors. And so with the 1567 02:25:16,280 --> 02:25:23,040 implication that there would feel that there might be some carve out for them to enjoy if measure s in pass. So I think 1568 02:25:23,040 --> 02:25:28,820 from that discussion to where we are today. I think we might have the opportunity to reconsider 1569 02:25:29,820 --> 02:25:34,960 supporting agriculture in Santa Clara County and yes it does happen to be in the majority 1570 02:25:34,960 --> 02:25:40,600 issue is in district one which is my area. Agriculture is still alive and thriving, even though 1571 02:25:40,600 --> 02:25:45,680 many people are saying it's being phased out, that's not the case. It's part of the economic 1572 02:25:45,680 --> 02:25:51,100 engine to this to this county and I think from our part, whatever investment that we could 1573 02:25:51,100 --> 02:25:57,600 make to continue that would be I think a monumental in the decision-making process. So I encourage 1574 02:25:57,600 --> 02:26:03,720 board of directors to continue to look at the opportunity to use this measure as funding mechanism 1575 02:26:03,720 --> 02:26:09,640 as a way to encourage and to keep the open space credit alive. So that's my comment in my 1576 02:26:09,640 --> 02:26:12,200 information I want to share with you today. 1577 02:26:13,340 --> 02:26:13,820 Yes. 1578 02:26:15,420 --> 02:26:21,320 Through the chair, Director Verella, has the county indicated any way that they would reimbursed 1579 02:26:21,320 --> 02:26:25,460 of the funds when the hospitals and the so on start meeting on their feet or whatever 1580 02:26:25,460 --> 02:26:31,400 I think there was multiple conversations subsequent to the money that were no longer made 1581 02:26:31,400 --> 02:26:35,780 earmarked and they just know. The short answer is no. 1582 02:26:36,840 --> 02:26:45,340 I totally concur with your assessment and your presentation. I also wrote a 1583 02:26:45,340 --> 02:26:52,440 open space to have credit that it was sent to you, John, and also I'll talk further about that. 1584 02:26:52,440 --> 02:26:58,840 not say anything or, but I think there was also an up for our staff to take a look at that 1585 02:26:58,840 --> 02:27:04,560 to see if how they can apply that to the open space and it can bring some funding and some 1586 02:27:04,560 --> 02:27:12,460 other opportunities to say participation and so on. So to me, I still and when Linda first made 1587 02:27:12,460 --> 02:27:16,760 the subject comment, she was called it right, that's what the board agreed upon. 1588 02:27:16,760 --> 02:27:24,400 But the issue is to see that the land may be removed or used for housing or whatever may have 1589 02:27:24,400 --> 02:27:29,140 you or other things. I think it's a, again, of the real shame. I think we should do the way 1590 02:27:29,140 --> 02:27:34,140 from here to work with the farming community and making sure that that open space continues. 1591 02:27:36,140 --> 02:27:40,920 I agree with you, sir. Well, you know, I don't think that we need to make the decision 1592 02:27:40,920 --> 02:27:46,740 we respect to the credit itself today. We can simply make a decision that we continue to look 1593 02:27:46,740 --> 02:27:54,760 at it in the budget. I want the time comes, we can decide then. So I'm happy to entertain 1594 02:27:54,760 --> 02:28:00,900 the motion. I have another comment. Sure, of course. Sure. I was in the 1595 02:28:00,900 --> 02:28:01,820 direction of the size. 1596 02:28:04,020 --> 02:28:06,940 So regarding John's comments, 1597 02:28:10,890 --> 02:28:12,730 the CEO can answer this question. 1598 02:28:12,730 --> 02:28:20,030 I believe there was a, as part of the survey, one of the questions asked was, 1599 02:28:20,050 --> 02:28:24,210 should any measure S money be used for subsidizing farmers? 1600 02:28:25,210 --> 02:28:27,310 And I believe the overwhelming answer was no. 1601 02:28:28,130 --> 02:28:32,050 And I believe that that issue was also raised by me and maybe several others 1602 02:28:32,050 --> 02:28:36,130 at the meeting where this endorsement from the Farm Bureau came, 1603 02:28:36,510 --> 02:28:41,650 that measure S money was not going to be used for to replace the open space credit. 1604 02:28:41,650 --> 02:28:49,310 And if directors made any kind of quick pro quo with the Farm Bureau or the Farmers, 1605 02:28:49,730 --> 02:28:57,010 they were overstepping the balance because it was specifically mentioned that the 1606 02:28:57,010 --> 02:29:04,170 Open Space Credit was not going to be replaced by anything at a measure S. And so, and then 1607 02:29:04,170 --> 02:29:11,430 the canard that if we don't support the Farmers, they're all going to sell their land to home 1608 02:29:11,430 --> 02:29:25,990 Well, you know, that's not going to happen, and, you know, the, the, the, the research that was done with regard to how much land would have to be followed, you know, if the open space credit went away. 1609 02:29:26,690 --> 02:29:30,810 We have, we have that economic research and it was minimal. 1610 02:29:31,490 --> 02:29:37,370 So, you know, I guess this thing about substituting the open space credit with measure S money, 1611 02:29:37,770 --> 02:29:43,270 we specifically asked that question and I believe in the CEO to answer it, but that was a question 1612 02:29:43,270 --> 02:29:52,290 put to the people who were our, you know, that we went out and asked about what you'd be in measure S. 1613 02:29:54,940 --> 02:29:56,500 Let me see um 1614 02:29:57,080 --> 02:29:57,580 Great 1615 02:29:58,760 --> 02:29:59,800 I'm sorry. I was talking 1616 02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:05,760 Measure S. And so we did not include that in measure S because that would have been basically what 1617 02:30:05,760 --> 02:30:11,060 of Wade measure S down on any today two thirds vote. When we did meet with the farmers, the farmers 1618 02:30:11,060 --> 02:30:16,180 wanted to know that if we did look at and did we did see another source of funding, such as 1619 02:30:16,180 --> 02:30:21,660 measure S with pass, would consideration be given to the open space credit and we did indeed say we 1620 02:30:21,660 --> 02:30:27,420 would take a look and have and look at consideration upon measure S's passing and we would make 1621 02:30:27,420 --> 02:30:32,360 recommendations back. The administration has made the recommendations as you've heard 1622 02:30:32,360 --> 02:30:38,260 of in front of you that we look at 10% of the going down to 10% of the open space 1623 02:30:38,260 --> 02:30:42,580 credit. So, yes, there is a combination of things out there. I do not recall any quidbro 1624 02:30:42,580 --> 02:30:48,140 quo conversations. However, we did say that we would keep an open mind and open discussion 1625 02:30:48,140 --> 02:30:49,980 if measure s was the pass. 1626 02:30:52,580 --> 02:30:55,830 Thank you, Chair. 1627 02:30:59,010 --> 02:31:21,770 I think we've mostly answered the question, but then I just want to provide further information that it's very clear that the measure as money can only pay for what's in the proposed programming fund of the voters on November. 1628 02:31:21,770 --> 02:31:31,630 So if open space credit, and I'm sure open space credit is not a line item in the natural 1629 02:31:31,630 --> 02:31:38,790 S program, so measure S money will not be used to pay for open space credit if the board 1630 02:31:38,790 --> 02:31:45,870 decides to continue. So I think the NECB established will not be using a measure S money 1631 02:31:45,870 --> 02:31:47,410 to pay for open space credit. 1632 02:31:47,510 --> 02:31:52,770 Based on what Darren just presented that the board decides 1633 02:31:53,650 --> 02:31:58,770 to provide some percentage of discretionary open space 1634 02:31:58,770 --> 02:32:02,350 highlighted that my funding source will come. 1635 02:32:02,630 --> 02:32:05,970 The watershed is basically coming from our revenue source 1636 02:32:06,710 --> 02:32:10,970 of the property test, which is like the general fund 1637 02:32:10,970 --> 02:32:13,330 that we have that we can other board 1638 02:32:13,330 --> 02:32:16,010 can decide how far to allocate that money. 1639 02:32:16,390 --> 02:32:19,210 And then right now, it's allocated to Father Sheskin. 1640 02:32:19,290 --> 02:32:21,590 Do you want to respond in the digital general fund? 1641 02:32:21,910 --> 02:32:23,970 So that's what Darren's presentation is from. 1642 02:32:24,230 --> 02:32:29,070 Those two funds, if the board decides to pay for the discretionary 1643 02:32:29,070 --> 02:32:31,530 portion of the open space budget. 1644 02:32:31,970 --> 02:32:38,310 So yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's more 1645 02:32:38,310 --> 02:32:43,130 for, I think there's probably, I'm listening to our discussion 1646 02:32:43,130 --> 02:32:46,890 it's it's it's it's it's very clear that measure as money 1647 02:32:46,890 --> 02:32:52,110 but who said it was I don't understand yeah but then it's 1648 02:32:52,110 --> 02:32:57,830 where we're mixing these terminology yeah it could be this understood how 1649 02:32:57,830 --> 02:33:05,390 five I understand it but you right you have to clarify 1650 02:33:05,390 --> 02:33:09,440 I think if you keep on saying something that is wrong all the time that 1651 02:33:09,440 --> 02:33:13,040 I don't know, I don't know, call it how that discussion in the kind of way. 1652 02:33:13,320 --> 02:33:15,920 That's why she's that's why I I wrote the show. 1653 02:33:16,180 --> 02:33:17,320 It's correct, yeah. 1654 02:33:17,680 --> 02:33:20,060 Make sure that the share, I think it's over talk about it. 1655 02:33:21,220 --> 02:33:21,440 Sorry? 1656 02:33:21,760 --> 02:33:23,220 Cranking in a shadow game, reasonable. 1657 02:33:23,780 --> 02:33:24,260 Okay, sorry. 1658 02:33:25,520 --> 02:33:27,480 I wrote the key and then the, the, the, the, the, the, the. 1659 02:33:28,440 --> 02:33:29,400 Thank you very much. 1660 02:33:29,480 --> 02:33:36,440 I just wanted to get back to that county report, which I did read back when it was finished and 1661 02:33:37,200 --> 02:33:45,200 It really, and I'm just looking through it quickly again, it does refer on page 27 to 1662 02:33:45,200 --> 02:33:51,800 water and climate change and talks about survey of farmers identifying water access and 1663 02:33:51,800 --> 02:33:55,720 or climate changes as one of the greatest barriers to long-term farm viability. 1664 02:33:55,960 --> 02:34:01,880 So it does make mention of that, but I don't think that anything with this county's report 1665 02:34:01,880 --> 02:34:08,700 and I haven't had a chance to scrutinize it in depth was doing anything to subsidize water rates. 1666 02:34:08,940 --> 02:34:17,280 That was not part of what they were doing and it's maybe I misunderstood director Varella, 1667 02:34:17,880 --> 02:34:23,900 but it sounded as if some of that 20 million was supposed to be going to offset water costs and 1668 02:34:23,900 --> 02:34:28,120 I don't see that being the case. So I just wanted to clarify that. Thank you. 1669 02:34:28,120 --> 02:34:36,780 through the chair? Yes, I would go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead with the director. 1670 02:35:01,180 --> 02:35:08,720 I'm open to re-looking at this issue and we're not a land use policy. It's people's opinion that 1671 02:35:08,720 --> 02:35:15,520 ag land shouldn't be converted to housing. We have a huge housing shortage here. So we're not here to weigh 1672 02:35:15,520 --> 02:35:23,280 in the land use, especially given how new folks are hurt with the lack of housing and the cost of land. 1673 02:35:27,460 --> 02:35:28,000 So 1674 02:35:28,000 --> 02:35:29,740 we're looking at. 1675 02:35:38,750 --> 02:35:41,510 Anybody else on the road? 1676 02:35:44,290 --> 02:35:49,450 Yes, thank you. So to Director Keegan's comment about from the county's perspective, 1677 02:35:49,730 --> 02:35:55,590 earmarking the money directly to cover water costs. There was never discussed about water at all. 1678 02:35:56,010 --> 02:36:04,470 It was stipulated that funding would be used to offset any cost that farmers needed to supplement 1679 02:36:04,470 --> 02:36:10,430 their operations of their businesses. And again, I'm probably not using the terminology correctly 1680 02:36:10,430 --> 02:36:17,290 because I don't have the report in front of me. But again, I say there was quite a representative 1681 02:36:17,290 --> 02:36:22,310 of a cross section that sat on that committee and it was a year-long study. So it's out there. 1682 02:36:22,310 --> 02:36:28,170 It's published, but I'm giving an information, but you're correct, director Kagan. It was not supposed 1683 02:36:28,170 --> 02:36:31,810 to fund water costs and that was not discussed. 1684 02:36:32,410 --> 02:36:34,010 Thank you for that clarification. 1685 02:36:35,190 --> 02:36:36,230 You're welcome. 1686 02:36:37,130 --> 02:36:53,170 Okay, so my perspective is that, you know, I questioned the question of whether we actually had the cost and whether we could bear the cost of 1687 02:36:53,170 --> 02:37:17,010 I'll carry it, continue to carry the open space credit, and I think to the point that Darren and Stafford made is that we have an increase of revenue because of measure S, and that allows us to look at this again, and so I would, you know, I'd have to take a motion that we look at it again. 1688 02:37:17,010 --> 02:37:34,110 Now, it's not a decision point I think right now about whether we should do it or not, but rather that we continue to carry it as a possibility and then we can deal with the decision at the appropriate time. 1689 02:37:34,590 --> 02:37:46,990 This is really early on in the beginning of our review, so that's why I encourage you, and we look at it and then we'll get to a point where we make a decision either way. 1690 02:37:46,990 --> 02:37:52,470 We'll get to a point where we have public comment. We'll get to a point where we have public participation 1691 02:37:52,470 --> 02:37:58,370 and of course we'll get to a point where we will have pretty extensive substantive discussion on it 1692 02:37:58,370 --> 02:38:07,790 and then make a decision. So, I'll entertain a motion to that fact that there's another one, you do one, but I just want to keep moving on the list. 1693 02:38:08,950 --> 02:38:11,090 So, did you make a motion there second? 1694 02:38:11,090 --> 02:38:18,950 I'll second that. Okay, I'll second that. Okay, and then, yes, can I make a 1695 02:38:18,950 --> 02:38:27,430 publication, because I think on the timeline perspective that staff needs to put something 1696 02:38:27,430 --> 02:38:41,070 in the preliminary pause report and then mail it and then mail the notification out to the 1697 02:38:41,070 --> 02:38:46,430 being some direction from the course of they can put some preliminary things. And then we'll 1698 02:38:46,430 --> 02:38:55,530 go through the public process and then that time. But right now staff is downcrack me as I'm 1699 02:38:55,530 --> 02:39:00,510 wrong that you do these some directions so that you know what to put into the preliminary 1700 02:39:00,510 --> 02:39:10,730 report. That's correct. So my clarification is that the to put into the preliminary report 1701 02:39:11,070 --> 02:39:29,950 to support a staff's recommendation of increasing the discretionary open space credit from 6% to 10% or there are the 66% of staff recommendations. 1702 02:39:30,390 --> 02:39:33,070 10% of the previously 25%. 1703 02:39:34,670 --> 02:39:36,670 Yeah, exactly, yeah. 1704 02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:29,820 Remember, we start now in January, there's schedule. So, for April, we will have a number of discussions. And a final discussion before we, it's right there, April 5th at World Advisory Committee. So, it'll be before that. We can have it at any time. But generally, as we recall, we go through each section. So, when we get to it, we'll have a substantive, a pretty substantial discussion on it. 1705 02:40:30,760 --> 02:40:32,360 I have a question. 1706 02:40:32,860 --> 02:40:33,020 Yeah. 1707 02:40:33,900 --> 02:40:36,260 I didn't understand what Nye was saying. 1708 02:40:36,960 --> 02:40:39,120 What is the vote we're taking? 1709 02:40:40,620 --> 02:40:42,520 Well, what's going on? 1710 02:40:42,540 --> 02:40:42,820 Okay. 1711 02:40:43,440 --> 02:40:54,320 My clarification to the motion is that support stats, recommendation to increase the discretionary 1712 02:40:54,320 --> 02:41:00,320 portion of the open space headed on the current 6% to 10%. 1713 02:41:01,180 --> 02:41:04,120 Then we're making a decision that we're not doing 25. 1714 02:41:06,000 --> 02:41:11,360 We're making the decision to carry it as a proposal right now. 1715 02:41:11,840 --> 02:41:14,560 But not making the decision to do it yet. 1716 02:41:15,140 --> 02:41:16,380 Between the 10 and the 25. 1717 02:41:19,520 --> 02:41:21,080 Correct. Between the 10 and 25. 1718 02:41:23,060 --> 02:41:32,340 It's a present proposal from staff to that's what it is and we're adopting the proposal but not making the decision to do so. 1719 02:41:32,720 --> 02:41:38,360 We're not adopting the budget so we're not making decisions on the budget right now. 1720 02:41:38,540 --> 02:41:38,780 All right. 1721 02:41:40,060 --> 02:41:42,280 Yeah, all the rates right now. 1722 02:41:42,520 --> 02:41:42,640 Right, 1723 02:41:44,670 --> 02:41:45,530 correct. 1724 02:41:48,080 --> 02:41:49,320 Any for the question? 1725 02:41:51,750 --> 02:41:53,270 Okay, let's have a. 1726 02:41:53,650 --> 02:41:56,150 Can can we restate the motion please? 1727 02:41:56,150 --> 02:41:57,990 I'm sorry, I'm a little convinced. 1728 02:42:00,580 --> 02:42:04,160 I don't know how we can adopt today as a proposal or not be back in a decision. 1729 02:42:04,400 --> 02:42:05,500 Something going on. 1730 02:42:07,240 --> 02:42:08,180 Please, please. 1731 02:42:09,320 --> 02:42:09,840 25. 1732 02:42:11,960 --> 02:42:11,980 10. 1733 02:42:12,420 --> 02:42:14,120 That's what we just said. 1734 02:42:14,320 --> 02:42:14,440 Yeah. 1735 02:42:14,440 --> 02:42:15,120 Who is it? 1736 02:42:15,520 --> 02:42:15,940 Okay. 1737 02:42:16,240 --> 02:42:18,480 Make clarify the motion. 1738 02:42:18,860 --> 02:42:19,400 So we can. 1739 02:42:20,560 --> 02:42:21,220 So the vote on. 1740 02:42:21,240 --> 02:42:21,440 Okay. 1741 02:42:21,620 --> 02:42:27,240 The motion is to support a staff recommendation to put 1742 02:42:27,240 --> 02:42:39,940 into the preliminary possible report opens based credit in open space credit that increase from the existing 1743 02:42:39,940 --> 02:42:49,600 the dissuade, the increasing from the existing 6% of the agriculture water rate to 10% 1744 02:42:49,600 --> 02:42:54,600 10% open space credit for either culture law rate. 1745 02:42:55,820 --> 02:42:58,820 I think I have a question for parents. 1746 02:42:59,700 --> 02:43:04,420 Darren, if we put it the pause report, can we change it to 25 at some point? 1747 02:43:04,920 --> 02:43:05,580 Of course. 1748 02:43:06,680 --> 02:43:06,880 Yeah. 1749 02:43:07,760 --> 02:43:08,180 Yeah. 1750 02:43:08,380 --> 02:43:09,160 Through the chair. 1751 02:43:10,400 --> 02:43:10,640 Okay. 1752 02:43:11,380 --> 02:43:16,200 So this particular question is key because as the boy. 1753 02:43:17,520 --> 02:43:28,460 We used to do the protest procedure for groundwater charges, so to the for groundwater charges, there is no protest procedure anymore, the court said that we don't need to do that. 1754 02:43:28,820 --> 02:43:44,520 And we don't have to that. However, for our surface water rates, we still do follow the proposition to 18 process for for water utility rates and we still do a protest count. And so when we set up our notices for to surface water users. 1755 02:43:45,920 --> 02:43:55,240 If we set it at the act charge at 25% of M&I, obviously that's an act charge of $85 in change for acre foot. 1756 02:43:55,540 --> 02:44:01,580 That sets the maximum that the board can adopt for surface water agricultural charges. 1757 02:44:01,780 --> 02:44:08,720 If the board chooses to in the notice, which would be what we recommend in the pot report, 1758 02:44:08,940 --> 02:44:13,840 to set the act charge at 10% of M&I, in other words, $34 in change for acre foot, 1759 02:44:13,840 --> 02:44:20,540 Well, that sets the maximum of this water charge that the board can adopt. So, so, so, in effect, 1760 02:44:21,700 --> 02:44:27,440 that the input right now is critical to what the board can adopt in May. 1761 02:44:29,060 --> 02:44:34,380 So, if we do today, then we can't do 25 in May. Or anything above 10. 1762 02:44:38,540 --> 02:44:40,300 for making a decision. 1763 02:44:42,840 --> 02:44:45,200 I apologize I was wrong. 1764 02:44:46,700 --> 02:44:51,160 So that would be so it's not a preliminary number in a preliminary report. 1765 02:44:52,620 --> 02:44:53,940 Yeah, I assume that it was. 1766 02:44:56,620 --> 02:44:59,240 So my suggestion would be to do it at 25. 1767 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:08,100 So we don't need a motion. Okay. Yeah. Okay. We have to vote, for example. I don't think we need to vote, just as it is. 1768 02:45:08,500 --> 02:45:16,740 Precisely, yes. We all agree. Okay. Good. Well, on the same page, we don't need to motion. We carry, we carry the 25% as the max. 1769 02:45:17,180 --> 02:45:25,940 We'll deal with it when we get to it. Okay. That's fine. Thank you. Yeah, because I, I consistent with what I suggested. We're not making a decision now. So that's okay. 1770 02:45:27,120 --> 02:45:29,280 All right. Okay. We leave it as it is. 1771 02:45:29,280 --> 02:45:30,940 Sorry, I confused stuff. 1772 02:45:31,240 --> 02:45:31,700 No, it's okay. 1773 02:45:32,060 --> 02:45:33,340 I actually, you clarify it. 1774 02:45:33,540 --> 02:45:33,900 That's fine. 1775 02:45:35,140 --> 02:45:37,020 Because I understood, I got it. 1776 02:45:37,320 --> 02:45:40,740 So we want them to protect all reservoir expansion. 1777 02:45:42,880 --> 02:45:45,340 Let me discussion on that as the motion, 1778 02:45:45,480 --> 02:45:47,020 what should we do there? 1779 02:45:48,160 --> 02:45:50,580 If I can have a recommendation to the board 1780 02:45:50,580 --> 02:45:53,740 that I based on the earlier discussion 1781 02:45:53,740 --> 02:45:56,980 by the board, the board will take the time to really 1782 02:45:56,980 --> 02:46:00,000 figure it out on what to do with this project. 1783 02:46:00,000 --> 02:46:04,520 And so, yeah, so I think at this point point it's 1784 02:46:04,520 --> 02:46:07,220 included to include it in the greater analysis. 1785 02:46:07,600 --> 02:46:10,040 And then knowing that these will change, 1786 02:46:10,440 --> 02:46:13,080 timing will change, numbers may change. 1787 02:46:13,320 --> 02:46:16,520 However, we're not, we'll say, we'll say, 1788 02:46:16,860 --> 02:46:18,840 we're still moving forward. 1789 02:46:19,440 --> 02:46:21,100 Yeah, they're testing these changes. 1790 02:46:21,200 --> 02:46:23,040 So staff understands, in other words, 1791 02:46:23,280 --> 02:46:28,660 there is a consensus that we continue to look at it, 1792 02:46:28,660 --> 02:46:35,140 Do you think you actually, I was going to say something pretty much similar to what you're saying, 1793 02:46:35,280 --> 02:46:41,060 sure, as Trimera, I think that I feel that I need more information at this point. 1794 02:46:41,060 --> 02:46:47,840 And I think that the public deserves an opportunity to weigh in. So I am not willing to 1795 02:46:47,840 --> 02:46:54,360 like kill the project at this point. I think, you know, there are there may be opportunities 1796 02:46:54,360 --> 02:47:01,780 that we're not even aware of right now. And I think it's prudent just to keep on studying 1797 02:47:01,780 --> 02:47:08,440 the project and have the money reflected appropriately. Yeah, it's not so that there's a consensus 1798 02:47:08,440 --> 02:47:14,000 to that effect. So we'll keep looking at it. I'll see in the quick. 1799 02:47:17,680 --> 02:47:20,960 No, we're not there yet, but we're almost there. 1800 02:47:20,960 --> 02:47:24,820 I'm to the next, I just make what I'll require. 1801 02:47:24,820 --> 02:47:25,000 Sure. 1802 02:47:26,440 --> 02:47:33,220 This is a request to staff in preparing the analysis that just putting adequate explanation, 1803 02:47:33,900 --> 02:47:38,150 related to a particular reservoir, reflect the board's current plan. 1804 02:47:39,340 --> 02:47:39,620 Great. 1805 02:47:41,160 --> 02:47:43,020 Treat a water surcharge. 1806 02:47:44,740 --> 02:47:51,020 increase to $15, $15, $15, $1 a kick of foot. 1807 02:47:52,320 --> 02:47:56,340 I can make a motion to support that. 1808 02:47:56,860 --> 02:47:56,900 Yes. 1809 02:47:57,180 --> 02:47:57,520 Yeah. 1810 02:47:58,080 --> 02:47:59,160 Again, this is a maximum. 1811 02:47:59,480 --> 02:48:00,920 This is a carry-on point. 1812 02:48:01,080 --> 02:48:07,920 This is a tool for managing raw water versus treating the plot water is. 1813 02:48:08,100 --> 02:48:09,020 I'll second that. 1814 02:48:09,020 --> 02:48:13,820 Most of the second thing to continue the carrots search engine, which is 15 acre plate. 1815 02:48:14,300 --> 02:48:16,840 Again, that's the maximum based on all we just discussed. 1816 02:48:17,900 --> 02:48:18,840 Let's take a roll call. 1817 02:48:19,080 --> 02:48:20,340 Let's just need discussion. 1818 02:48:24,840 --> 02:48:24,860 Okay. 1819 02:48:25,240 --> 02:48:26,080 Do you want to show them? 1820 02:48:26,200 --> 02:48:26,340 Yes. 1821 02:48:26,620 --> 02:48:27,300 Do you want to keep them? 1822 02:48:27,640 --> 02:48:28,040 Yes. 1823 02:48:28,540 --> 02:48:28,740 You want to keep them? 1824 02:48:28,760 --> 02:48:29,600 I want to 1825 02:48:31,900 --> 02:48:32,900 keep them. 1826 02:48:33,460 --> 02:48:33,740 Correct. 1827 02:48:34,120 --> 02:48:34,320 Correct. 1828 02:48:35,640 --> 02:48:35,860 Correct. 1829 02:48:40,360 --> 02:48:40,840 Correct. 1830 02:48:43,800 --> 02:48:44,280 Correct. 1831 02:48:52,040 --> 02:48:58,900 I think that's fine again. 1832 02:49:00,080 --> 02:49:02,000 That's definitely a good thing to do. 1833 02:49:02,260 --> 02:49:03,880 Yeah, we've got to consider something else. 1834 02:49:04,440 --> 02:49:05,740 Okay, was there any other? 1835 02:49:05,900 --> 02:49:07,460 I don't think there was another. 1836 02:49:08,740 --> 02:49:08,940 Okay. 1837 02:49:11,640 --> 02:49:13,660 All right, I think we'll deal with, with, 1838 02:49:14,580 --> 02:49:15,600 26 then, right? 1839 02:49:15,980 --> 02:49:16,000 I don't think there was another. 1840 02:49:16,000 --> 02:49:16,060 I think we'll deal with, with, 1841 02:49:16,060 --> 02:49:23,780 I think our brief perspective, there may be a question related to the on the CIP side, but maybe 1842 02:49:23,780 --> 02:49:25,500 heat can chime in on that. 1843 02:49:27,320 --> 02:49:27,380 Keith? 1844 02:49:30,040 --> 02:49:30,140 Yes. 1845 02:49:30,220 --> 02:49:31,260 Let me get myself off mute. 1846 02:49:31,740 --> 02:49:36,860 So, Ian that this was a workshop for the CIP portion, just wanted to see if there was any additional 1847 02:49:36,860 --> 02:49:41,240 direction from the board that any of the projects that were out there, you did not want 1848 02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:04,840 I think we will clear about what to do with the jaco and the CIP before. 1849 02:50:06,000 --> 02:50:08,980 All right, then we'll plan to roll that and start turning that into the drop staff. 1850 02:50:09,320 --> 02:50:13,040 Thank you. Great. Thank you, we take care. 1851 02:50:14,000 --> 02:50:16,400 Okay, we know at the consent calendar. 1852 02:50:19,000 --> 02:50:23,180 And so I have a couple issues to take off. 1853 02:50:24,380 --> 02:50:38,180 request from speakers, 3.5 and 3.16 of the longest, the same calendar that we've had for the last year or two. 1854 02:50:39,320 --> 02:50:42,370 Are there any other ones that board members wanted to take out? 1855 02:50:43,340 --> 02:50:46,020 Those are 3.5 and 3.16. 1856 02:50:46,460 --> 02:50:47,300 Motion to approve. 1857 02:50:47,540 --> 02:50:48,880 What do you mean anything else? 1858 02:50:48,880 --> 02:50:50,280 to the end. 1859 02:50:51,280 --> 02:50:52,460 I'm not seeing any of these. 1860 02:50:52,460 --> 02:50:54,520 Okay, there's no, nobody, okay. 1861 02:50:55,320 --> 02:50:56,960 All right, is there a second then? 1862 02:50:57,060 --> 02:50:57,380 Second. 1863 02:50:58,320 --> 02:51:01,160 All right, motion a second to the consent calendar, whatever thing. 1864 02:51:01,520 --> 02:51:04,420 Except 3, 4, 5, and 3, 4, and 6, Steve. 1865 02:51:05,360 --> 02:51:06,180 Uh, I think we have resolutions. 1866 02:51:06,820 --> 02:51:07,620 Yeah, we need a roll. 1867 02:51:08,160 --> 02:51:09,160 All right, Director Shua? 1868 02:51:09,860 --> 02:51:10,080 Yes. 1869 02:51:10,540 --> 02:51:10,920 Director Keegan? 1870 02:51:11,780 --> 02:51:12,020 Yes. 1871 02:51:12,460 --> 02:51:13,060 Director's Amendment? 1872 02:51:13,640 --> 02:51:14,000 Yes. 1873 02:51:14,560 --> 02:51:15,180 Director's Law? 1874 02:51:18,400 --> 02:51:18,720 Yes. 1875 02:51:20,440 --> 02:51:21,020 Director's Hand. 1876 02:51:21,020 --> 02:51:23,580 Yes, Director Merle? Yes. 1877 02:51:23,840 --> 02:51:24,060 Yes. 1878 02:51:24,060 --> 02:51:24,160 Thank you. 1879 02:51:24,340 --> 02:51:25,740 Chair, Esther Merle. Sorry. 1880 02:51:26,940 --> 02:51:28,280 I think it's. 1881 02:51:28,540 --> 02:51:31,960 Okay, so let's move to 3.5. 1882 02:51:32,680 --> 02:51:35,680 And I claim a has the end of quick see your apartments. 1883 02:51:38,220 --> 02:51:42,940 Assume that we have a speaker from the community that wants to address us. 1884 02:51:43,720 --> 02:51:43,900 Okay. 1885 02:51:44,760 --> 02:51:45,300 Go ahead. 1886 02:51:45,560 --> 02:51:47,020 I'm whoever's here from the has the end of quick. 1887 02:51:47,280 --> 02:51:48,160 You should fail the speak. 1888 02:51:54,910 --> 02:51:55,430 Here. 1889 02:51:56,850 --> 02:51:57,450 Through the chair? 1890 02:51:58,250 --> 02:51:58,510 Yes. 1891 02:51:58,510 --> 02:52:06,920 working. This is David K. and the risk manager I also would like to present. I would be happy to present the claim. 1892 02:52:08,180 --> 02:52:09,520 All right, well let's see. 1893 02:52:11,800 --> 02:52:17,140 Let's see what the, let's see what the number of the public wants to address this on. 1894 02:52:17,900 --> 02:52:18,240 Okay. 1895 02:52:25,260 --> 02:52:30,220 All right. Thank you very much. My name is Paul and I'm from Hasea, the Great. 1896 02:52:32,220 --> 02:52:33,060 Yes. Good afternoon. 1897 02:52:50,350 --> 02:53:10,750 So, we had a fire that erupted in the back of our property, we notified the San Jose police and also put in like a fee to have someone do something about 1898 02:53:10,750 --> 02:53:20,510 that was located on Santa Clara Valley district water sign and no one did anything and then 1899 02:53:20,510 --> 02:53:30,220 like to evacuate our steamers because the property was under that of burning down. 1900 02:53:33,250 --> 02:53:33,890 I put a 1901 02:53:33,890 --> 02:53:43,630 claim to have our gate record because fire department came by and they I guess they couldn't reach 1902 02:53:43,630 --> 02:53:47,810 the other side of the fence, so then they broke down our side of the fence in order to get to 1903 02:53:49,610 --> 02:53:54,170 the homeless encampment where the fire was freaking out at and then say, 1904 02:53:56,990 --> 02:53:59,250 they don't want to pay for the damages. 1905 02:53:59,490 --> 02:54:07,190 I was just wondering if there's any way we can be compensated for that or anything. 1906 02:54:10,360 --> 02:54:18,300 But we have to, I'm sorry, we have to use some fire extinguishers and then we have to 1907 02:54:18,300 --> 02:54:20,920 like a invoice of votes for about $680. 1908 02:54:22,360 --> 02:54:26,180 So personally, I believe that 1909 02:54:28,740 --> 02:54:31,960 if it's homeless and they're not able to do anything, 1910 02:54:32,080 --> 02:54:33,460 do you think that the pandemic that's fine? 1911 02:54:33,980 --> 02:54:42,080 I totally understand that, but the fact that our property had to take damages as a result of 1912 02:54:42,080 --> 02:54:46,280 of something that could have been prevented, 1913 02:54:46,600 --> 02:54:50,000 or something that was not something that was on our side, 1914 02:54:50,700 --> 02:54:54,040 then I don't feel like that's fair, 1915 02:54:54,240 --> 02:54:56,060 because that's kind of like saying, 1916 02:54:57,700 --> 02:54:59,980 no one's gonna want to have, 1917 02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:12,160 Just squat in the back of their house or something like that. And then have something happen to their house where the half of their house gets burned down and say like, well, it's there's nothing we can do and you got to pay for the damages yourself. 1918 02:55:19,010 --> 02:55:33,270 Okay, okay, well generally the process is that, you know, you file a 100 day claim and then, you know, we accept the rejected the later on, we have some of our folks to negotiate with you. 1919 02:55:33,270 --> 02:55:38,750 So that's what we'll do. I don't think we'll be able to negotiate with you in public, in the middle of our meeting. 1920 02:55:39,830 --> 02:55:45,130 And I tell you that just so that you don't think that whatever we do today is the end of this, okay? 1921 02:55:47,830 --> 02:55:55,910 Yeah, it just feels like we invest a lot of our tax dollars into the city. 1922 02:55:55,910 --> 02:56:03,230 and a lot of the, a lot of what happens in California is dependent on like people like us to help 1923 02:56:03,850 --> 02:56:11,430 keep the state up in the live and I just feel like they're not doing their part in 1924 02:56:13,510 --> 02:56:20,470 ensuring that they are fulfilling their duties as a public servant to members in the community like 1925 02:56:24,270 --> 02:56:31,210 Okay, well, thank you for your comments and we'll take these you up now and as I mentioned our staff will 1926 02:56:31,950 --> 02:56:36,030 We'll communicate with you. Okay, thank you for addressing us. 1927 02:56:36,650 --> 02:56:37,190 Mr. Hill. 1928 02:56:38,730 --> 02:56:41,190 You wanted to address us? 1929 02:56:45,300 --> 02:56:46,480 You're on the eighth, David. 1930 02:56:48,950 --> 02:56:50,370 Sorry about that. 1931 02:56:51,110 --> 02:56:51,990 David Kaye and Rismanager. 1932 02:56:53,550 --> 02:56:54,590 Good afternoon, directors. 1933 02:56:54,590 --> 02:57:00,570 This claim arises from two small fires set by a homeless person on district property, on 1934 02:57:00,570 --> 02:57:01,490 Lower Silver Creek. 1935 02:57:02,170 --> 02:57:08,990 The property is located behind 399 East Court, which is the complex that Mr. Trong is talking 1936 02:57:09,850 --> 02:57:10,450 about. 1937 02:57:10,450 --> 02:57:17,190 On the order of access, the fire of San Jose fire department cut the top of some fencing at 1938 02:57:17,190 --> 02:57:20,430 the complex and put the fire out. 1939 02:57:21,090 --> 02:57:24,210 claim it's trying to get back as cost for the cost of that 1940 02:57:24,210 --> 02:57:28,850 pensing. The issue here is we were aware that there is a homeless 1941 02:57:28,850 --> 02:57:33,050 encampment at that area but we're not allowed to go near the homeless 1942 02:57:33,050 --> 02:57:37,370 encampment due to the pandemic and due to the dangers of the homeless 1943 02:57:38,410 --> 02:57:42,410 encampment. District can't control what happens the 1944 02:57:42,410 --> 02:57:45,690 intentional conduct of a homeless. There's homeless everywhere 1945 02:57:45,690 --> 02:57:48,610 unfortunately and unhoused and we can't control the 1946 02:57:48,610 --> 02:57:50,550 activities of unhoused population. 1947 02:57:51,590 --> 02:57:53,870 Therefore, the district doesn't 1948 02:57:53,870 --> 02:57:56,590 vary any responsibility and staff recommends 1949 02:57:56,590 --> 02:57:57,730 that the claim be denied. 1950 02:58:00,050 --> 02:58:01,490 What's the, what's the amount of the claim 1951 02:58:01,490 --> 02:58:02,110 again? 1952 02:58:02,410 --> 02:58:06,970 The claim is $833 and 42 cents representing $680 1953 02:58:06,970 --> 02:58:11,190 per the fence and the $153 and 42 cents 1954 02:58:11,190 --> 02:58:12,650 for fire extinguishers. 1955 02:58:16,660 --> 02:58:19,000 OK, I don't obtain a motion either way, anybody? 1956 02:58:19,780 --> 02:58:21,160 Through the chair, I'm going to make a motion. 1957 02:58:21,460 --> 02:58:22,600 We actually pay the claim. 1958 02:58:22,600 --> 02:58:29,480 Not because we may or may not be liable, but we got to be good neighbors here, and it's a tough situation with the pandemic. 1959 02:58:30,080 --> 02:58:34,900 I know if some neighbor had a bunch of trash, I get how complicated it is. 1960 02:58:35,400 --> 02:58:39,660 Also, we're going to spend thousands of dollars fighting it, which is a gift to public funds. 1961 02:58:39,860 --> 02:58:44,200 We probably spend thousands of dollars at staff time, so I'm going to make a motion to pay it. 1962 02:58:44,200 --> 02:58:50,560 The second. This is the second by me. The second comment tone is that, yes, you know, unfortunately the far 1963 02:58:50,560 --> 02:58:56,520 Department had to go probably to this man's, you know, property. But the same thing, they saved 1964 02:58:56,520 --> 02:59:02,760 probably the whole neighborhood. And it's all said and done. And it's too bad that the neighbor also 1965 02:59:02,760 --> 02:59:07,080 couldn't get his own insurance company to reimburse him for some time. But I think Gary's got a great 1966 02:59:07,080 --> 02:59:13,240 point and I know that you go almost doing so that's my idea of the second. Yeah, I agree. I let's have 1967 02:59:13,240 --> 02:59:19,300 call on it. Dr. Shua? Yes. Dr. Keegan? Yes. 1968 02:59:19,700 --> 02:59:22,720 Dr. Kremlin? Yes. Dr. Lizard? Yes. 1969 02:59:23,220 --> 02:59:25,820 Dr. Santon? Yes. Dr. Barrellah? Yes. 1970 02:59:26,500 --> 02:59:27,920 Terrestra Mara. Hi. 1971 02:59:27,940 --> 02:59:31,700 Your name is Paul of you still listening. 1972 02:59:33,540 --> 02:59:34,580 You've heard our decision. 1973 02:59:36,780 --> 02:59:38,980 So our staff will be in contact with you. 1974 02:59:39,380 --> 02:59:41,160 Okay? Thank you very much, directors. 1975 02:59:41,700 --> 02:59:43,140 You very welcome. Thank you. 1976 02:59:43,140 --> 02:59:47,000 all right we'll move right on to 3.16 1977 02:59:49,650 --> 02:59:56,310 okay this is a completion of contract I think 1978 02:59:56,310 --> 02:59:59,250 we spoke with this before so 1979 03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:08,220 Following on for some time, you have been very supportive of us, and we very much appreciate your support as we try to get resolution with Balfour Bating. 1980 03:00:09,380 --> 03:00:16,040 They had stopped paying us in March after the agreement had been made to close out the latter part of the job. 1981 03:00:16,440 --> 03:00:20,220 We've been working with them since then to try to get paid and taken care of. 1982 03:00:20,660 --> 03:00:29,160 We continue to work with the district and on warranty items on the project site, so we're still trying to support the facility there, 1983 03:00:29,160 --> 03:00:38,020 know we haven't been paid. There's no question that your support has forced them to continue to talk to us. 1984 03:00:38,840 --> 03:00:44,320 We appreciate that and we need to continue to get them to talk to us. We have filed a complaint. 1985 03:00:45,280 --> 03:00:49,740 The response time for that complaint is several weeks from now. It does not look like they're going to 1986 03:00:49,740 --> 03:00:56,380 respond before that time. So what we would like to do is again, thanking for your support and 1987 03:00:56,380 --> 03:01:04,640 corrects that you continue to decline to release retention until they are willing to actually settle down in the go she ate. 1988 03:01:05,000 --> 03:01:12,380 A closure of this project, there are many items that they have not paid for, which are not contested if they simply quit paying us. 1989 03:01:13,280 --> 03:01:21,680 You said we have continued to try to support the project, but we also appreciate your support for small regional contractors and vendors. 1990 03:01:21,680 --> 03:01:28,780 who essentially are getting closed out by somebody who just wants to leave the area and not complete their project. 1991 03:01:29,500 --> 03:01:34,600 So again, thank you, and I continue to request your support, at least for a few more weeks, 1992 03:01:34,840 --> 03:01:40,320 so we can try to get them to actually respond to our complaint and perhaps reach a settlement. 1993 03:01:41,880 --> 03:01:43,020 Thank you, Mr. Federson. 1994 03:01:44,080 --> 03:01:45,540 We'll have Rick. 1995 03:01:45,540 --> 03:01:48,460 You must see you all in sir. 1996 03:01:48,580 --> 03:01:48,740 Yeah. 1997 03:01:49,140 --> 03:01:54,240 And good afternoon chair chair members of board. 1998 03:01:54,720 --> 03:01:56,880 It's the administration's position right now. 1999 03:01:56,900 --> 03:02:01,380 I understand what some nail have been going through. 2000 03:02:01,760 --> 03:02:05,900 We have tried to provide as much time as we've could. 2001 03:02:06,100 --> 03:02:12,120 But at this point, it is the administrative administration's position that we should move forward with this item. 2002 03:02:16,910 --> 03:02:17,030 Yes. 2003 03:02:17,030 --> 03:02:45,990 Thank you, Chair. Yeah. I listened very carefully to the Neil Electric's comment, and I believe that what's left is an action as explained clearly in the agenda memo is doing exactly just that so that Neil Electric and Bell for the baby can reach a resolution on their issue. 2004 03:02:45,990 --> 03:02:54,830 And then we have, we've held enough money for the stop payment notices. 2005 03:02:55,450 --> 03:02:59,750 So I feel that how this staff's action is the right thing to do. 2006 03:03:00,130 --> 03:03:03,010 And I'd like to make a motion to approve staff accommodation. 2007 03:03:03,490 --> 03:03:03,830 No, certainly. 2008 03:03:04,350 --> 03:03:10,650 I motion a second to approve the acceptance of the project. 2009 03:03:10,750 --> 03:03:12,590 Any discussion? Questions? 2010 03:03:13,450 --> 03:03:15,070 I'd like to give him a couple more weeks. 2011 03:03:15,270 --> 03:03:16,190 What's the critical thing? 2012 03:03:16,350 --> 03:03:18,770 He's not asking forever now on the represented 2013 03:03:18,770 --> 03:03:19,570 of the electric. 2014 03:03:19,690 --> 03:03:22,710 Why not a couple more weeks to the next board meeting? 2015 03:03:23,190 --> 03:03:24,330 It's not infinite. 2016 03:03:25,670 --> 03:03:28,030 And Sarah had a change in my shirt, baby, Bobby. 2017 03:03:29,830 --> 03:03:31,570 I've heard to keep him alive this week. 2018 03:03:31,770 --> 03:03:32,990 Yeah, I'll have to figure it out. 2019 03:03:33,070 --> 03:03:34,970 First of all, there's a stuff we spawned to that 2020 03:03:34,970 --> 03:03:36,510 and then we'll have that written key. 2021 03:03:37,130 --> 03:03:40,330 Yes, yes, yes, he's. 2022 03:03:40,610 --> 03:03:41,250 Oh, thank you. 2023 03:03:41,250 --> 03:03:44,910 So, yeah, as a reminder, we did add additional stuff 2024 03:03:44,910 --> 03:03:46,590 to the Board of Gender Memories director, 2025 03:03:46,590 --> 03:03:49,250 she had dedicated, just given background 2026 03:03:49,250 --> 03:03:50,870 how stop payment notices work, 2027 03:03:51,270 --> 03:03:54,250 and we are withholding the full amount plus 125% 2028 03:03:54,250 --> 03:03:55,410 of the contested amount. 2029 03:03:56,570 --> 03:03:59,870 So, we don't have authorization as an owner agency 2030 03:03:59,870 --> 03:04:02,450 to just completely stop paying the contract in new time. 2031 03:04:02,510 --> 03:04:03,570 We have a stop payment notice. 2032 03:04:04,270 --> 03:04:06,550 They are relatively common on projects 2033 03:04:06,550 --> 03:04:08,290 that we receive them. 2034 03:04:08,630 --> 03:04:11,030 So, the guidelines are we hold the 125%. 2035 03:04:11,030 --> 03:04:20,750 I did also want to note to the board that we did since also receive letter from another subcontractor asking that we accept the project. 2036 03:04:21,210 --> 03:04:30,910 Because by accepting the project and releasing the notion of filing the notion of completion and releasing the attention, that obligates the main contractor to pay the other subs. 2037 03:04:30,910 --> 03:04:38,930 So, Neil is not the only sub on the contract, there's, I think, eight other ones listed and then that's only the ones listed that are over 900,000. 2038 03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:13,760 Ups that are in line to get payment and release retention. So, staff's recommendation that we go ahead and file the notes to completion. We are still with holding the funds for to cover any contingency amounts for for me. 2039 03:05:16,350 --> 03:05:19,030 Thank you. The room to take good. 2040 03:05:19,590 --> 03:05:28,310 Thank you. I'm in complete agreement with staff. I would just add that the prompts statement statutes in the state of California are pretty rigorous. 2041 03:05:28,310 --> 03:05:40,590 And so, when we, if we were to delay paying the contractor, we could be liable for pretty high interest rates as well as attorneys costs. 2042 03:05:41,130 --> 03:05:46,410 So, I think that we've done everything we can at this point. So, I support staff. 2043 03:05:47,930 --> 03:05:53,370 All right, nothing further than let's, okay, that will call them. 2044 03:05:57,430 --> 03:06:03,510 Dr. Shua? Yes. Dr. Keegan? Yes. Dr. Krami? No. 2045 03:06:04,590 --> 03:06:09,670 Dr. Liza, yes. Dr. Chantas? Yes. Dr. Dr. Merla? Yes. 2046 03:06:10,470 --> 03:06:11,870 Chair Estimara? Aye. 2047 03:06:12,050 --> 03:06:13,770 Vote passes the majority vote. 2048 03:06:15,310 --> 03:06:19,710 Okay. All right, we'll move on then to point one. 2049 03:06:20,210 --> 03:06:25,090 Set the time and place of regular meetings of the district. 2050 03:06:26,170 --> 03:06:27,310 Motion, keep it away. 2051 03:06:28,070 --> 03:06:28,590 Second. 2052 03:06:29,250 --> 03:06:31,010 Motion, second, keep it away, it is. 2053 03:06:31,010 --> 03:06:32,070 It is easy for me. 2054 03:06:33,510 --> 03:06:35,590 Okay, we'll call a roll, so that. 2055 03:06:37,660 --> 03:06:38,680 Director of Shoah. 2056 03:06:39,080 --> 03:06:39,140 Yes. 2057 03:06:39,340 --> 03:06:40,080 Director Keegan? 2058 03:06:40,860 --> 03:06:40,960 Yes. 2059 03:06:41,380 --> 03:06:42,020 Director Kremlin. 2060 03:06:42,660 --> 03:06:42,860 Yes. 2061 03:06:43,560 --> 03:06:44,500 Director of Avalor. 2062 03:06:44,940 --> 03:06:45,020 Yes. 2063 03:06:46,600 --> 03:06:47,920 Director of Avalor. 2064 03:06:48,060 --> 03:06:48,360 Director of Avalor. 2065 03:06:48,960 --> 03:06:49,480 Characters. 2066 03:06:50,000 --> 03:06:50,200 I. 2067 03:06:50,440 --> 03:06:51,280 unanimous vote? 2068 03:06:51,480 --> 03:06:51,840 Keep it away. 2069 03:06:52,200 --> 03:06:52,540 Great. 2070 03:06:52,760 --> 03:06:53,560 Keep going then. 2071 03:06:53,640 --> 03:06:55,240 We move right along to 4.2. 2072 03:06:56,880 --> 03:07:01,880 Consider the public suggested brought to the board of order committee regarding a 2073 03:07:01,880 --> 03:07:05,240 district view of the sponsorship program. 2074 03:07:08,910 --> 03:07:09,650 Good afternoon, Chair. 2075 03:07:09,810 --> 03:07:10,790 As Chairman and members of the board. 2076 03:07:11,050 --> 03:07:15,290 I'd be happy to introduce this item or turn it over to Director Keaton. 2077 03:07:17,210 --> 03:07:18,950 Whatever is the board's choice. 2078 03:07:20,470 --> 03:07:21,990 There and why don't you? 2079 03:07:22,070 --> 03:07:25,670 I'd be happy with you starting and my making some concluding comments. 2080 03:07:26,530 --> 03:07:26,990 Sounds good. 2081 03:07:26,990 --> 03:07:35,270 So this particular item is stems from a request from an interested citizen to have the board 2082 03:07:35,270 --> 03:07:42,690 audit committee consider including in the grants management audit back in July, a not a 2083 03:07:42,690 --> 03:07:49,350 valuable sponsorship program. And so that was not incorporated into the grants management audit 2084 03:07:49,350 --> 03:07:55,670 that is currently underway. However, the committee recommended that this particular request 2085 03:07:55,670 --> 03:08:01,570 brought to the full board for discussion. And so that's the purpose of this item is to discuss, 2086 03:08:01,570 --> 03:08:07,950 to discuss whether or not the board audit committee should pursue any audit-related work on 2087 03:08:07,950 --> 03:08:14,150 valley water sponsorship program. And just by way of background, the sponsorship program is essentially 2088 03:08:14,150 --> 03:08:17,710 100,000 dollars per year of cost. 2089 03:08:19,990 --> 03:08:24,030 And in order to proceed with a desk review of the sponsorship 2090 03:08:24,030 --> 03:08:32,810 program. The Board's Auditor estimates $15,000 expenditure to do that and a $50-$70,000 2091 03:08:32,810 --> 03:08:39,130 expenditure to do a full audit of the sponsorship program. And I'll pause there. 2092 03:08:39,490 --> 03:08:40,090 Thank you. 2093 03:08:40,170 --> 03:08:45,790 Through the chair, if I may just add something in terms of the committee's deliberations, 2094 03:08:45,790 --> 03:08:55,830 A concern that we had were individuals, you know, I mean, certainly we always welcome input, 2095 03:08:56,690 --> 03:09:03,250 but at the same time we go through a pretty rigorous process as a board in determining 2096 03:09:03,250 --> 03:09:10,010 what our audit plan should be and it was a pretty straightforward decision to say, well, 2097 03:09:10,890 --> 03:09:28,770 We're auditing our grant program, we are not auditing the sponsorship program, but at the same time we did not want to set a precedent by making a recommendation as to which way that we should go. 2098 03:09:29,390 --> 03:09:38,050 The options as we thought were, we could either recommend a desk audit, we could recommend against it. 2099 03:09:38,050 --> 03:09:42,950 I'm sorry, a desk review, or we could bring it forward to the full board for discussion. 2100 03:09:43,350 --> 03:09:45,970 So we didn't really want to set a precedent in this regard. 2101 03:09:46,190 --> 03:09:52,110 We wanted to hear the input from the board in terms of their thoughts on this. 2102 03:09:52,110 --> 03:09:53,690 Can I ask a question? 2103 03:09:54,050 --> 03:09:54,750 Yes, go. 2104 03:09:55,590 --> 03:09:59,970 Okay. My question is that every- 2105 03:10:17,040 --> 03:10:28,460 So I think they felt that there was an underlying issue to respond to the concern that you're raising director, 2106 03:10:31,780 --> 03:10:55,600 And we were very sensitive to that idea that again, we've gone through, you know, we've done the heat map, we've gone through a rigorous process, we've done all these things, and so, we could a desk review, be productive, perhaps, but this is also something that could be wrapped into our annual audit review. 2107 03:10:55,600 --> 03:11:00,520 you and that's why we didn't make a recommendation. So we wanted to hear from the full board 2108 03:11:00,520 --> 03:11:05,640 what your thoughts were. Well, I'm sure there's an issue we would have heard about it, but 2109 03:11:05,640 --> 03:11:16,800 any discussion? Yeah, it's just Ms. Mulvie was the one who suggested it and it feels like this 2110 03:11:16,800 --> 03:11:21,480 is a little bit. I'm reading through the lines, reading between the lines, maybe then like some 2111 03:11:21,480 --> 03:11:29,400 people who are sponsoring and I think this is so subjective, we might end up staying $15,000, 2112 03:11:30,040 --> 03:11:36,260 spending $15,000, and $50,000 to $70,000, the audit of program that didn't show up on our 2113 03:11:36,260 --> 03:11:42,580 e-map. And that's why when we discussed this, we didn't, at least I said, it just hasn't seen 2114 03:11:42,580 --> 03:11:51,040 class effective to go chase this down for such a small amount of money. Well, I think, I think transparency 2115 03:11:51,040 --> 03:11:57,960 was the issue. I remember we used to get, and maybe I've missed it. We used to get a list every year 2116 03:11:57,960 --> 03:12:03,760 of who and what was being sponsored. And I haven't seen that in a while. 2117 03:12:05,200 --> 03:12:10,580 And maybe I'm just missing it. But, you know, maybe maybe the CEO covering mind me, 2118 03:12:10,720 --> 03:12:17,860 how that is transmitted to the board. So I think if it's through a 2119 03:12:17,860 --> 03:12:20,420 a non-agenda, then it's not transparent. 2120 03:12:21,580 --> 03:12:24,860 And I wouldn't question Trish Mulvey as being, 2121 03:12:27,180 --> 03:12:30,220 concerned about who we were giving money to. 2122 03:12:30,580 --> 03:12:32,520 I just think it was an issue of transparency 2123 03:12:32,520 --> 03:12:35,060 for her, not who we were sponsoring, 2124 03:12:35,340 --> 03:12:40,440 because I think we do strive to sponsor a diverse group of people, 2125 03:12:40,760 --> 03:12:43,280 but I think it's, you know, who's getting what? 2126 03:12:43,540 --> 03:12:46,480 How often I wanted to, the other thing is how often 2127 03:12:46,480 --> 03:12:48,720 are the same groups getting the same amount of money, 2128 03:12:49,680 --> 03:12:52,020 and with $100,000, it's a lot of money. 2129 03:12:52,280 --> 03:12:56,480 Our people being left off, we've made a point 2130 03:12:56,480 --> 03:12:58,360 to the same we want to be diverse and inclusive, 2131 03:12:58,880 --> 03:13:03,520 are there people who aren't being represented 2132 03:13:03,520 --> 03:13:04,400 in this sponsorship? 2133 03:13:04,840 --> 03:13:09,440 So I don't think a desk review of who we've sponsored in the past 2134 03:13:09,440 --> 03:13:14,320 and how much, and also how that's transmitted to the general 2135 03:13:14,320 --> 03:13:30,160 public is, I think it's a, I don't think it's a waste of $15,000. I think it, you know, we want to be transparent. We want to make sure that that we're, we're letting the community know how, how this community has produced a report around. 2136 03:13:32,920 --> 03:13:43,340 Rick, when was the last time that no one produced that report? Well, again, to the chair. One of the things that we've done is we've done it every, every year and every January. 2137 03:13:43,340 --> 03:13:49,460 We have our legislative outlook where all of the sponsors are included in our legislative outlook. 2138 03:13:49,680 --> 03:13:53,640 This will be coming to your next January meeting as it always has. 2139 03:13:54,380 --> 03:13:57,360 So we've been very transparent from the administrative point. 2140 03:13:57,480 --> 03:14:02,300 This goes way back to Stan Williams to Bogoli, to Norma, and then you'll see it on myself. 2141 03:14:04,510 --> 03:14:06,390 Well, then they could look at that. 2142 03:14:06,890 --> 03:14:08,210 Motion, Mr. Chair. 2143 03:14:08,690 --> 03:14:09,530 Yes, not to have the order. 2144 03:14:09,530 --> 03:14:14,510 that all I know is that if someone has an issue, they can't do this board, we're going to 2145 03:14:14,510 --> 03:14:21,790 have these. And so I would, motion is not to suspend 15,000 over on the grant. 2146 03:14:22,610 --> 03:14:31,510 Well, rather than doing that, could we get a five-year report of how the 100,000 2147 03:14:31,510 --> 03:14:39,570 dollars has been spent over the last five years just to just to see how it's being spread around and is it being the births? 2148 03:14:39,590 --> 03:14:46,690 I don't doubt it, but it may go to Trisha's issue without spending $15,000 to do a desk audit. 2149 03:14:48,070 --> 03:14:49,370 Well, she's going to look at it. 2150 03:14:49,770 --> 03:14:55,150 Well, I'm going to make a BMR that I want to see the last five years of how that bloody was spent. 2151 03:14:55,350 --> 03:14:56,350 How's that? 2152 03:14:57,230 --> 03:14:58,350 Do what we are. 2153 03:14:58,710 --> 03:14:59,970 Is it so right? What are I doing this? 2154 03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:10,100 Senate Ms. Novea on every committee I had been on, you mixed goals, says, well, so why can't she be transparent, tell us what her concern was, and we can address that? 2155 03:15:11,180 --> 03:15:11,840 To the span of fifty. 2156 03:15:11,940 --> 03:15:13,280 You have the concern, Councillor. 2157 03:15:15,900 --> 03:15:24,320 Well, I would be on my side. I'd like to see the last five years. And not spend of fifteen thousand dollars in the designated bill. 2158 03:15:24,320 --> 03:15:27,280 That's all you can thank you for saving that $15,000. 2159 03:15:27,780 --> 03:15:29,800 All right, we'll move right along then to 1.3. 2160 03:15:30,460 --> 03:15:31,000 I love this. 2161 03:15:31,780 --> 03:15:33,560 Excuse me, just for a second. 2162 03:15:34,340 --> 03:15:37,160 So I think what I'm hearing is that the precedent 2163 03:15:37,160 --> 03:15:43,340 is that the full board wants these kinds of things 2164 03:15:43,340 --> 03:15:47,660 to be considered as part of our annual audit review process. 2165 03:15:47,840 --> 03:15:49,200 Would that be an accurate statement, 2166 03:15:49,720 --> 03:15:52,360 rather than coming piecemeal through the audit committee? 2167 03:15:53,700 --> 03:15:59,460 Yeah, I agree. Yeah, that's usually that's the process we've been using, but how many years? 2168 03:16:00,000 --> 03:16:04,980 Yeah, I just wanted to get, um, make sure we were all in the same place. Thank you very much. 2169 03:16:05,720 --> 03:16:08,120 I don't know why it came by itself, but okay. 2170 03:16:08,900 --> 03:16:11,720 4.3 board committee reports. 2171 03:16:12,580 --> 03:16:13,820 Any questions on that? 2172 03:16:15,600 --> 03:16:22,840 Yeah, I don't have a question. I have a comment on the minutes for the I am 2173 03:16:22,840 --> 03:16:28,940 seeing meeting. Jason Baker should be listed as an honorable, he's a prior elected 2174 03:16:28,940 --> 03:16:34,080 official, just like Joe had and Patrick Walker listed as honorable, so could whoever 2175 03:16:34,080 --> 03:16:35,460 does the minutes just change 2176 03:16:38,660 --> 03:16:46,480 that. Thank you. Anything else? Okay, move the 4.4, 2177 03:16:46,620 --> 03:16:49,640 to pose future board member agenda items. 2178 03:16:52,580 --> 03:16:53,940 That's Michelle's. 2179 03:16:56,490 --> 03:16:57,890 Yeah, I don't, I haven't had any 2180 03:16:57,890 --> 03:17:02,750 requests, I don't see any. Yeah. You didn't have any requests right now. Okay, we'll move right along 2181 03:17:02,750 --> 03:17:11,050 to 5.1, but that was moved to I don't 3.16, which we took care of. So we're at 6.1, 2182 03:17:12,360 --> 03:17:15,600 Water Sheds, a proven budget adjustment, 2183 03:17:18,490 --> 03:17:21,090 and I think Rochelle is setting on that one? 2184 03:17:21,590 --> 03:17:26,950 Yes, this is the KitBats interim chief operating officer for Water Sheds standing in for Rochelle. 2185 03:17:27,470 --> 03:17:35,990 This item is a budget adjustment to adjust for the amount of funding to the permanent and quick project. 2186 03:17:36,090 --> 03:17:43,730 Mostly related to the increases in costs for the removal of soil from the Rancho San Antonio Detention Basin. 2187 03:17:43,730 --> 03:17:49,870 And I'd like to turn it over to Alec Nicholas if there's any questions regarding the item. 2188 03:17:50,410 --> 03:17:51,970 Thank you. Any questions? 2189 03:17:54,860 --> 03:17:55,520 Motion to approve. 2190 03:17:56,240 --> 03:17:57,640 Motion to approve the second. 2191 03:17:58,160 --> 03:17:58,560 Second. 2192 03:17:58,960 --> 03:18:00,280 Motion to approve. 2193 03:18:01,160 --> 03:18:02,760 There's no questions in the discussion. 2194 03:18:02,960 --> 03:18:03,860 We'll go right to. 2195 03:18:05,160 --> 03:18:08,080 We have no public or no staff at the same. 2196 03:18:08,460 --> 03:18:09,460 So we'll go to a local. 2197 03:18:09,860 --> 03:18:10,960 Do you want to show up? 2198 03:18:11,180 --> 03:18:11,320 Yes. 2199 03:18:11,400 --> 03:18:12,300 Do you want to keep it? 2200 03:18:12,520 --> 03:18:12,880 Yes. 2201 03:18:12,880 --> 03:18:14,740 Good to come in. 2202 03:18:15,060 --> 03:18:15,600 Okay. 2203 03:18:15,620 --> 03:18:16,480 Greg is alive. 2204 03:18:16,960 --> 03:18:17,360 Yes. 2205 03:18:17,680 --> 03:18:18,460 Where's your Santa's? 2206 03:18:18,820 --> 03:18:18,840 Yes. 2207 03:18:18,840 --> 03:18:19,620 Drugs are growing. 2208 03:18:20,220 --> 03:18:20,320 Yes. 2209 03:18:20,780 --> 03:18:21,220 Characters. 2210 03:18:21,540 --> 03:18:21,820 I. 2211 03:18:23,560 --> 03:18:27,800 Move around along to 6.2 with a remove from the agenda. 2212 03:18:28,820 --> 03:18:32,960 So we'll go right to 7 assistant chief executive officer. 2213 03:18:33,420 --> 03:18:34,940 I think mentally and not here. 2214 03:18:41,810 --> 03:18:42,810 No report. 2215 03:18:43,290 --> 03:18:43,370 Okay. 2216 03:18:43,830 --> 03:18:45,430 There is no report from me today. 2217 03:18:45,430 --> 03:18:50,190 Well, there you are. I'm not happy. Thank you. Extend terminal fairs. 2218 03:18:54,110 --> 03:18:56,010 Nothing. Okay, CEO. 2219 03:18:58,290 --> 03:19:03,830 Yes, I'm going to go to the CEO report and I'm actually going to ask for a message. 2220 03:19:04,050 --> 03:19:09,910 We'll give some to go first. Good evening, Mayor. I'm just the board. Just a couple of very quick items, 2221 03:19:10,170 --> 03:19:13,390 including the one pages that we have as usual from the Office of Communications, 2222 03:19:13,390 --> 03:19:18,250 the Office of Civic Engagement. First and foremost, there is obviously quite a bit going on at the federal 2223 03:19:18,250 --> 03:19:25,290 level, how both recently and in between Christmas and New Year's, it's been exciting for sure. 2224 03:19:25,530 --> 03:19:30,930 Congress did pass a water resources development act of Worda and we did achieve some key 2225 03:19:30,930 --> 03:19:36,070 wins in that first and foremost. There was some language that directly benefits valing water projects, 2226 03:19:36,490 --> 03:19:41,250 including language, a continued policy and multi-purpose projects that basically allows and urges 2227 03:19:41,250 --> 03:19:45,470 the core to develop project alternatives that have multiple benefits. This could directly benefit 2228 03:19:45,470 --> 03:19:47,250 the Upper Penitentiate Creek Project. 2229 03:19:47,950 --> 03:19:52,110 And then secondly, a language pertaining to eligibility for high hazard dams. 2230 03:19:52,150 --> 03:19:56,910 This pertains to allowing hydroelectric dams with a generating capacity of 1.5 megawatts or less, 2231 03:19:57,070 --> 03:19:58,130 which Anderson is. 2232 03:19:58,430 --> 03:19:59,970 So we could potentially tap into some of that. 2233 03:20:00,000 --> 03:20:29,980 Funding for the Anderson Project. So we'll of course be engaging and continue to advocacy toward that end. And then, secondly, just a quick note from the Office of Communications, one pager of, so we had a climate change action plan, staff is produced and promoted a video, directing viewers to a survey through social media platforms, including a variety of them, so that we can capture ideas from community members that will then enhance that plan. And then from civic engagement applications for the grants program, closed on December 1st, and we're working on six applications that we will 2234 03:20:29,980 --> 03:20:34,600 be bringing to the board with recommendations next month. And finally, for the water winner, 2235 03:20:34,620 --> 03:20:38,000 when I can't even know several of you are working on selecting your applicants for the next 2236 03:20:38,000 --> 03:20:43,940 cohort that closed in December. We got 124 applications in all-time high. So we'll just be 2237 03:20:43,940 --> 03:20:48,080 waiting for the board to select their candidates and move forward. That's it for me. Thank you. 2238 03:20:48,760 --> 03:20:51,280 All right. That's everyone now. The COO, Tina Yoke. 2239 03:20:52,600 --> 03:20:57,200 Thank you, CEO, calendar. So good afternoon, Chair and members of the board. 2240 03:20:57,200 --> 03:21:11,020 With the escalated COVID cases in our community and across the state and country, I thought it would be informative to give you a summary of our COVID current status. 2241 03:21:11,020 --> 03:21:16,700 So since the beginning of the pandemic, Valley Water on today has experienced a total 2242 03:21:16,700 --> 03:21:27,160 unfortunately of 42 COVID positive cases, the totals include 29 full-time employees and 11 2243 03:21:27,160 --> 03:21:34,720 contract employees. We had a student intern as well as one temporary employee that was part of that 2244 03:21:34,720 --> 03:21:42,740 boarded total as well. 27 of the 40 cases were contracted just over the recent holidays for the 2245 03:21:42,740 --> 03:21:50,260 month of November to date. So the vast majority of those reported positives, again, are attributed 2246 03:21:50,260 --> 03:21:58,260 to the recent holiday spikes. And we had in December, we had 16 reported positives. And so 2247 03:21:58,260 --> 03:22:02,260 for this month, we've already had five reported positives. 2248 03:22:02,720 --> 03:22:05,360 The severity of our COVID-19 symptoms 2249 03:22:05,360 --> 03:22:11,760 by our employees have been reported to be mild to severe. 2250 03:22:12,220 --> 03:22:15,400 In fact, 25% of the cases here of valley water 2251 03:22:15,400 --> 03:22:19,340 are comprised of asymptomatic individuals. 2252 03:22:19,900 --> 03:22:23,020 But employees having no symptoms at all. 2253 03:22:23,380 --> 03:22:27,940 A couple of individuals have experienced a loss of taste 2254 03:22:27,940 --> 03:22:32,500 and smell while others have had varying degrees of both code 2255 03:22:32,500 --> 03:22:34,400 and flu-like reported symptoms. 2256 03:22:35,260 --> 03:22:37,800 And two of the most of your cases here of Valley Water 2257 03:22:37,800 --> 03:22:39,660 have required hospitalization. 2258 03:22:40,100 --> 03:22:42,380 One employee was admitted to the hospital overnight, 2259 03:22:43,100 --> 03:22:45,840 at least the next day, and the most of your case 2260 03:22:45,840 --> 03:22:50,160 was reported earlier in the emergency with a very extensive 2261 03:22:50,160 --> 03:22:52,020 multiple day hospitalization. 2262 03:22:52,480 --> 03:22:55,760 So with the exception of very few cases so far, 2263 03:22:55,760 --> 03:23:01,560 Those individuals have been back to work after the required 10-day isolation period. 2264 03:23:01,760 --> 03:23:07,500 And thankful for that. Most of the individuals with larger cases were able to tell the work 2265 03:23:07,500 --> 03:23:13,000 and not miss any work at all. And through the protocols here, a valley water that were implemented 2266 03:23:13,000 --> 03:23:21,140 since a very early onsite of onset of this emergency fortunately, they have been no evidence that 2267 03:23:21,140 --> 03:23:29,440 the positive cases that were contracted were attributed to workplace red here attributed to any 2268 03:23:29,440 --> 03:23:36,680 of our facilities and that concludes my report. Thank you, I will now move to Acting COO. 2269 03:23:36,900 --> 03:23:44,940 Thank you, CEO calendar. Good evening. Members of the board. I just have a couple of announcements 2270 03:23:44,940 --> 03:23:50,000 to make. On December 30, Lieutenant Colonel Cunningham from the Army Corps of Engineers signed 2271 03:23:50,000 --> 03:23:54,920 The agreement with us for the reevaluation for Upper Guadalupe River, the agreement 2272 03:23:55,640 --> 03:24:00,820 allocates 1.5 million in federal funding with matching funds from our local agency 2273 03:24:01,360 --> 03:24:07,180 for a feasibility cost sharing agreement. This is for the reach of Upper Guad from about 2274 03:24:07,180 --> 03:24:12,460 five and a half miles upstream of highway 280 so the upper reaches. So that's good news. 2275 03:24:13,160 --> 03:24:19,560 And then in your handout, there is a storm report for the period of November 24th, I believe, 2276 03:24:20,000 --> 03:24:26,500 Yes, to January 11th, of course we have not had much rain, which has resulted in our reservoirs 2277 03:24:26,500 --> 03:24:33,780 at about 29% of normal capacity. However, we are continuing to do our work in the streams and 2278 03:24:33,780 --> 03:24:38,620 watersheds to prepare for winter rains and our sandbag sites are fully stocked. 2279 03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:05,560 Thank you, Rick. Good evening. Good afternoon. Yeah, evening. 2280 03:25:06,540 --> 03:25:14,340 Chair, new chair and honorable board members. I have two announcements. The first is the retirement and recognition of service for Jerry Daylapiedra. 2281 03:25:15,200 --> 03:25:19,860 Jerry began his career at the district in 1999 as an intern in water conservation. 2282 03:25:20,580 --> 03:25:28,500 Since then, he has performed virtually every duty within the water conservation unit with his final stop as assistant officer of water supply. 2283 03:25:28,500 --> 03:25:37,000 His served as a district liaison to the California Urban Water Agency's Bay Area Water Agency's Coalition and the California Urban Water Conservation Council. 2284 03:25:37,720 --> 03:25:44,260 Jerry has received numerous leadership awards and is known for his calm demeanor in championing staff development. 2285 03:25:44,980 --> 03:25:46,180 He's also a pretty good golfer. 2286 03:25:47,000 --> 03:25:52,500 I have known Jerry for most of these years and have enjoyed working with him. He's not only a colleague, but a good friend. 2287 03:25:52,980 --> 03:25:55,560 Please join me in congratulating him on his retirement. 2288 03:26:07,480 --> 03:26:09,150 Okay, can I make a comment please? 2289 03:26:10,360 --> 03:26:11,200 Absolutely, there. 2290 03:26:11,560 --> 03:26:14,280 Yeah, this is, this is pretty sad. 2291 03:26:14,420 --> 03:26:17,090 I think Gary's been one of the calmest employees, 2292 03:26:17,540 --> 03:26:20,860 the most responsible, the most responsive. 2293 03:26:21,540 --> 03:26:24,560 I mean, all staff is like that, but he's kind of at the next level 2294 03:26:24,560 --> 03:26:27,740 to like to work with fun, and this is super sad. 2295 03:26:28,200 --> 03:26:30,540 And I suggest we just bar the door and the lead and leave. 2296 03:26:32,940 --> 03:26:38,780 Yes, Jerry, congratulations. He's also a very good softball player when we're all participating. 2297 03:26:39,580 --> 03:26:45,220 Yeah, some groups are going with a lot of fun. Like I tell you, he made the landscape with committee standing committee. 2298 03:26:45,700 --> 03:26:51,680 He just worked on through people very commonly and well respected and the best of you would be safe. 2299 03:26:54,690 --> 03:26:54,750 Thanks. 2300 03:26:56,730 --> 03:27:06,790 Jerry, I just want to say congratulations on the retirement and just cannot imagine how 2301 03:27:06,790 --> 03:27:15,890 time flies. I knew you when you were a intern. And I've always thought that you were 2302 03:27:15,890 --> 03:27:23,410 I still, I mean, age-wise that compare to mine and just seems like it's too 2303 03:27:23,410 --> 03:27:31,230 down to retire, but we all have all planned for our life and congratulations, I wish 2304 03:27:31,230 --> 03:27:36,990 all the good things and the best things for you after your retirement. 2305 03:27:37,530 --> 03:27:44,030 And thank you for your support to do everything and then everything that all the questions 2306 03:27:44,030 --> 03:27:46,770 I ask you and thank you for the support. 2307 03:27:48,930 --> 03:27:49,950 Thank you. 2308 03:27:50,270 --> 03:27:50,490 Yes. 2309 03:27:50,490 --> 03:27:51,470 Through the chair? 2310 03:27:51,990 --> 03:27:52,010 Yes. 2311 03:27:53,210 --> 03:27:53,470 Jerry. 2312 03:27:56,470 --> 03:27:57,650 You will be sorely missed. 2313 03:27:58,750 --> 03:28:02,730 So I just want to quote a very high profile, 2314 03:28:02,770 --> 03:28:05,850 a historical American, Mr. John Lewis. 2315 03:28:06,570 --> 03:28:08,050 Go on and get in some good trouble. 2316 03:28:08,930 --> 03:28:09,030 Yes. 2317 03:28:11,820 --> 03:28:14,500 And through the chair, I think the other directors 2318 03:28:14,500 --> 03:28:21,960 I just wanted to say, Gerry, it's always been a pleasure working with you, and you will be missed. 2319 03:28:24,260 --> 03:28:29,380 And like everyone says, your personality is such that you have that calming touch. 2320 03:28:30,260 --> 03:28:33,740 And yeah, best of luck. 2321 03:28:34,020 --> 03:28:34,700 Thank you. 2322 03:28:34,800 --> 03:28:35,620 Gerry, it's Linda. 2323 03:28:35,900 --> 03:28:37,680 I just wanted to say congratulations. 2324 03:28:38,320 --> 03:28:40,340 Like everyone else, you're going to be missed. 2325 03:28:41,100 --> 03:28:44,460 You're just a fantastic employee and so leveled at it. 2326 03:28:44,460 --> 03:28:49,820 I also want to thank you for the time you spent with my husband working on some of the 2327 03:28:49,820 --> 03:28:50,380 creek issues. 2328 03:28:50,880 --> 03:28:54,640 So I really, really appreciate that and good luck in everything you two. 2329 03:28:54,780 --> 03:28:55,960 Please stay safe. 2330 03:28:56,600 --> 03:28:57,740 Thank you. 2331 03:28:57,960 --> 03:29:03,080 Well, Jerry, I remember when they introduced you as a new employee in the old court of building 2332 03:29:03,080 --> 03:29:10,320 in 99, it's been a real pleasure working with you since then, believe me, every minute 2333 03:29:10,320 --> 03:29:15,680 been worthwhile, we're really going to miss you. And hopefully you might come back once in a while, 2334 03:29:17,080 --> 03:29:24,220 at least visit if not to work a little bit. But we'll miss you. Thank you. So, in congrats, 2335 03:29:24,380 --> 03:29:27,520 you earned it, man. Thank you. 2336 03:29:30,150 --> 03:29:35,250 Congratulations. Oh, I have one and just as a follow-up, 2337 03:29:36,090 --> 03:29:42,010 so we now have a new assistant officer in the Water Supply Division and that is please join me in 2338 03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:07,160 Her official start date was on December 28th. We've been trying to download everything Jerry has in the, in the, in the, in the Kristen set as fast as we can. 2339 03:30:07,640 --> 03:30:15,360 Curses worked on water quality and watershed issues for over 25 years, including 16 years with the city of San Jose, four with the city of Palo Alto. 2340 03:30:16,060 --> 03:30:26,660 In the San Jose, she led the master plan effort for the regional wastewater facility. In Palo Alto, she managed the pre-treatment and storm water compliance programs and assisted with the expansion of their recycled water program. 2341 03:30:26,660 --> 03:30:42,620 She's been with Valley Water for the last four years and served as Unit Manager over the environmental planning unit and prior to that senior water resources specialist managing the safe clean water programs related to storm water and impaired water bodies and as well as working on the climate change action plan. 2342 03:30:43,060 --> 03:30:50,000 We are excited to welcome Kirsten as to the water utility enterprise and as the assistant officer in water supply division. 2343 03:30:52,100 --> 03:31:02,760 Congratulations to Steve, look forward to your leadership, especially in the, in recycled water that I haven't excited you here and recycling so we'd like to have you on board for that, especially. 2344 03:31:04,120 --> 03:31:16,760 Thank you very much. Yeah, I'm excited about that and I know I have some very big shoes to fill with Jerry, so I'm not trying to comment to speak as quickly as possible and I look forward to working with you all on the many exciting things going on. 2345 03:31:16,960 --> 03:31:18,220 Great. Congratulations. 2346 03:31:19,500 --> 03:31:24,900 All right, and congratulations to both Jerry and Kirsten and at that I will turn back over to you that 2347 03:31:24,900 --> 03:31:27,120 It's all of the reports on the CEO 2348 03:31:29,080 --> 03:31:29,960 Thank you 2349 03:31:29,960 --> 03:31:32,540 Then we'll move running along to board member reports 2350 03:31:34,300 --> 03:31:37,820 Let's see. I don't see anything else of board member reports. Sam and Jeff 2351 03:31:38,900 --> 03:31:39,760 Thank you 2352 03:31:39,760 --> 03:31:42,920 So between all the days and coming back to 2353 03:31:42,920 --> 03:31:46,320 Be getting our first board, we didn't have too many meetings, but they were all important 2354 03:31:46,320 --> 03:32:06,500 So I hope we met with the Agriculture Advisory Committee, that was good because we were presenting to them the groundwater proposed rates that we saw today that we also presented the open space credit potential that would be applied to the rates for this year. 2355 03:32:06,500 --> 03:32:13,860 Valley Water Special Board Meeting, the Volunteer Recognition Program, which is really great. 2356 03:32:14,240 --> 03:32:22,120 I attended the BPPC meeting and had a phone call with the Board Chair of Locker Region 5. 2357 03:32:22,160 --> 03:32:28,200 We have some strategy moves that we're going to be presenting next to week at the State Aqua Board of Directors Meeting. 2358 03:32:29,140 --> 03:32:30,520 So, that's it? 2359 03:32:30,520 --> 03:32:31,240 All right. 2360 03:32:31,440 --> 03:32:32,320 Did you do this? 2361 03:32:40,360 --> 03:32:40,580 All right. 2362 03:32:40,620 --> 03:32:41,540 Some grant audit. 2363 03:32:41,860 --> 03:32:42,460 Prep meetings. 2364 03:32:43,880 --> 03:32:45,720 The special board meeting. 2365 03:32:49,180 --> 03:32:52,700 A monthly board policy and planning meeting. 2366 03:32:53,140 --> 03:32:55,940 One on one with the CEO. 2367 03:32:57,620 --> 03:33:00,140 Prep for our new spot meeting. 2368 03:33:01,040 --> 03:33:03,480 Which always makes me think about Star Trek. 2369 03:33:05,080 --> 03:33:09,480 and had a briefing on Rancho San Antonio. Thank you. 2370 03:33:14,010 --> 03:33:14,630 Thank you. 2371 03:33:14,630 --> 03:33:18,150 Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yeah, I could call to meeting with the CDO Board meeting. 2372 03:33:18,770 --> 03:33:21,170 I'll do recognition. And last night, we'll do very, 2373 03:33:21,230 --> 03:33:22,110 as a citizen to invite. 2374 03:33:22,590 --> 03:33:23,730 I actually mean. 2375 03:33:23,830 --> 03:33:24,150 Great. 2376 03:33:24,550 --> 03:33:25,230 I do a sound. 2377 03:33:26,130 --> 03:33:30,670 Let's see that financials to stay in a bill-free group met attended the World of Storage, 2378 03:33:30,810 --> 03:33:34,750 the Score, the committee, the Ag committee, Board meetings, 2379 03:33:34,750 --> 03:33:36,870 CIP committee volunteer recognition 2380 03:33:36,870 --> 03:33:38,570 at that which was wonderful. 2381 03:33:39,050 --> 03:33:41,530 The BPP C meeting, two on one meeting 2382 03:33:41,530 --> 03:33:43,550 with the CEO and director, Kegan, 2383 03:33:44,210 --> 03:33:46,450 and then a briefing on the Rikunata. 2384 03:33:48,930 --> 03:33:49,390 Sure. 2385 03:33:50,810 --> 03:33:51,190 Okay. 2386 03:33:53,030 --> 03:33:54,930 I met with the CEO, 2387 03:33:55,430 --> 03:33:58,830 Agriculture Advisory Committee meeting. 2388 03:33:58,830 --> 03:34:02,270 A CIP Committee meeting, a BPP C meeting. 2389 03:34:03,230 --> 03:34:07,710 And I attended the left call meeting yesterday. 2390 03:34:07,890 --> 03:34:17,050 This is for the special district to representative to select a 2391 03:34:19,070 --> 03:34:27,310 commissioner from the all the from the special district for the next four year time. 2392 03:34:30,570 --> 03:34:31,290 Thank 2393 03:34:34,200 --> 03:34:36,880 you, Chair. 2394 03:34:38,120 --> 03:34:46,320 Briefing on Pacheco costs, meeting on my RBMR about accounts payable, board meeting, 2395 03:34:47,780 --> 03:34:53,460 a SQL litigation volunteer event, meeting on the caffer. 2396 03:34:55,480 --> 03:34:59,820 What around the balance sheet discussion, DHCCP. 2397 03:35:04,330 --> 03:35:15,560 Here today, I forgot earlier, but I want to make sure that I say this, that congratulations 2398 03:35:15,560 --> 03:35:26,400 to staff on the advertisement of face to a of a periodist pre-project. It's only a line item on 2399 03:35:26,400 --> 03:35:33,880 I'll thank calendar, but then I know how much work there is and then the project is really moving forward. 2400 03:35:34,120 --> 03:35:41,040 I want to make sure that staff knows that way you really appreciate the hard work. 2401 03:35:41,960 --> 03:35:43,100 It's a tough project. 2402 03:35:43,620 --> 03:35:48,240 The plant is back on so big that you incorporated into the site. 2403 03:35:49,080 --> 03:35:50,760 Well, we know how much work there is. 2404 03:35:50,760 --> 03:35:53,020 The only thing the record says, 1954. 2405 03:35:54,700 --> 03:35:54,920 Yeah. 2406 03:35:54,920 --> 03:35:55,840 Well, I heard that. 2407 03:35:55,880 --> 03:35:58,080 I started up at Upper Yagus, 1980. 2408 03:36:03,140 --> 03:36:04,260 All right. 2409 03:36:04,260 --> 03:36:08,260 So we're at a company user and clarification of board requests. 2410 03:36:08,700 --> 03:36:09,540 Thank you, Mr. Chair. 2411 03:36:09,660 --> 03:36:10,620 I have a direct roll. 2412 03:36:10,800 --> 03:36:13,120 It's a lot of requests to provide report on the value 2413 03:36:13,120 --> 03:36:15,400 water sponsorships for the last five years. 2414 03:36:16,780 --> 03:36:20,280 And we're then adjourned to special close session meeting. 2415 03:36:20,280 --> 03:36:26,980 at 10 AM on January 19th. So, thank you all for our video. We'll see you all in a few minutes. 2416 03:36:29,910 --> 03:36:31,510 We're in turn, until then.