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Good morning. And welcome to Santa Clara Valley Water District Board of Directors Meeting. Tuesday, December 13, 2022.

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Important notices and participation instruction, Santa Clara Valley Water District, Valley Water Board of Directors Board Committee meetings are held as a hybrid meetings conducted in person, as well as by telecommunication, and is compliant with the provisions of the Ralph M. Ronack.

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To maximize public safety, while still maintaining transparency in the public access, members of the public have an option to participate by teleconference slash video conference or attend in person.

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To observe and participate in the meeting by teleconference video conference, please see the link located at the top of the agenda.

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If attending in person, you're required to comply with the ordinance 22-3.

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And ordinance of the Santa Clara Valley Water District Specifying Rules of Decorum for Participation in Board and Committee Meetings located at our website as indicated.

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So, good morning, everybody.

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The notice of the public.

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The Board of Directors meets in close session in accordance with the Ralph M. Brown Act.

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Following the conclusion of the close session, discussion, the Board will return for the remaining items on the regular meeting agenda.

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Before we get into that, do we have any public comments?

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At this point?

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I'd like to share I do not, but I do need to take a roll.

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Wow, that's a good idea.

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A little mad in a procedural.

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Okay, please do.

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Director Bell.

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Director Eisenberg.

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President.

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Director Estimera.

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Director Shua.

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Director Keegan.

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Director Santos.

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Chair Verella.

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Here.

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We have all members present.

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Great.

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You know that we've done that. There are two items on the close session agenda.

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Item pursuant code section four five four nine five six nine D one.

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Stop to take a damn project coalition in Santa Clara Valley Water District.

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Item two point two.

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Pursuant to government code section five four nine five six nine D one.

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San Francisco.

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Bakekeeper for Santa Clara Valley Water to Santa Clara County Super Superior Court.

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Case number two two C V four zero three five two three.

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Any comments from the board before we adjourn to closed session?

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Okay, we will be returning here at one PM for a regular session.

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We are adjourned to close session.

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That you get a kick out of that.

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Wonderful.

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Thank you.

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Better coming from you.

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Why? It just, it just is. You know, you don't, you don't why?

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It's morning and by director Esfamera's son.

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I know, how exciting is that.

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Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Members of the board. Welcome back. We'll come in at a close session.

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Mr. Council, do we have anything to report?

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Thank you chair, President. Item is 2.1 and 2.2. The board met in close session with all directors present and no report will action was taken on either item. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Next item on the agenda is the Pledge of Allegiance.

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Director Eisenberg, which are pleased

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leaders in the Pledge of Allegiance.

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The flag flag is right here.

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That's just this law.

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Orders of the day.

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I don't think we have anything to change as at this point.

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Time for public comment.

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Anybody who wishes to speak on any item that's not on today's agenda,

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please bring your speaker card to the clerk of the board for

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And the next item on the agenda will be we're going to have a bit of a delay until everyone is present on the administration and it's ceremonial oath of office.

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But before that, I would like to welcome directors Jim Bell representing district four and director Rebecca Eisenfield representing district seven.

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We welcome them as our new board members, we're excited to have them with us, new energy, new direction, new ideas.

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So join me in a round of applause to welcome our new board members.

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Director Bell, I know you're a man of few words, so would you like to say something?

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Director Eisenberg, would you like to say something?

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I want to say thank you to everyone and the community is so important to all seven of us.

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So, speaker, I hope next time people talk at public comment because we want to hear what you have to say.

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Very good.

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We have any members of the public that would like to offer a comment.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair. I have no hands raised and no speaker cards at this time.

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Okay.

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So our next is our ceremonial what do you want us to do?

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Okay, direct us.

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Thank you. We have a special guest with us today.

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We let you in.

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And I will let Director Estomeran give a great introduction to our guest.

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We are honored.

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Well, my pleasure. I'm honored to introduce to you my son, the Honorable Mikhail Estomeran.

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I'm going to swear this afternoon, so I'll go down and take the oath.

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Can we go down with you?

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I guess each one who's going to...

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Yeah.

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Absolutely.

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Do you want us all down?

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One at a time?

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Okay?

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Okay.

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Right here.

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Test.

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There you go.

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All right.

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Let's go land up over here.

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We

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don't usually have a judge of sort and sense or that's why. Trying to figure it out.

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Thank you for the invitation. May I have you raise your right hand.

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Yes sir.

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I Antonio Tony Estromerra.

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I Antonio Tony Estromerra.

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Do solemnly swear or firm.

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Do solemnly swear and affirm that I will support and defend.

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that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of California.

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The Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of California.

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Against all enemies foreign and domestic.

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Against all enemies foreign and domestic.

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That I will bear true faith and allegiance that I will bear true faith and allegiance.

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To the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of California.

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to the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of California.

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Then I take this obligation freely that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion.

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Without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion.

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And I will well and faithfully.

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And that I will well and faithfully.

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This charge the duties upon which I am about to enter.

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This charge the duties upon which I am about to enter.

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Congratulations.

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Thank you.

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I'll just take a minute to say a few quick words, so I've introduced my son also my wife

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who's here in Yelanda and I invited him and of course my wife because I want to

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you know that public service is very important to me. It runs in my family. My son was the

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the Fender for number years. My wife was a public health nurse for number years. She served in

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any elected position as a trustee of San Jose Evergreen community college district. And so

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where family that's devoted to public service. And this is probably my last term and so I wanted

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to be shown in by my son, and many of you might know that in the old days, the county in Santa Clara, the Board of Supervisors and the county building was the old county building where the district attorney now has his offices, that used to be the county administration building, and up on the top floor was the county.

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uh... cafeteria

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where

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my

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father

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was the bus boy

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This is how far we've come.

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And I remember

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the comedian, the Russian comedian guy, when you say, what a country, what a country. So thank all of you for sharing with us today, especially for me and my family.

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Think, do

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you want to do the earth together?

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Oh, we could do it.

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You're going to take off.

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Sure.

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Thank you, do that.

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All right.

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Then we'll do the names individually.

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Yep.

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That's why.

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And then repeat the old.

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And then we'll repeat the earth together.

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So we'll do the names separately and then we'll do the earth together.

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So I'll begin with you.

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I, Rebecca Eisenberg.

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I, Rebecca Eisenberg.

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Hi, Jim Bell.

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Hi, Jim Bell.

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I, John Brella, I, John L, Burella, do solemnly swear or affirm that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of California.

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The Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of California.

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against all enemies, foreign and domestic, against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will

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bear true faith and allegiance to the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution

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of the State of California, and the Constitution of the State of California.

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Then I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or

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purpose of evasion.

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And then I will well and faithfully discharge the duties upon which I am about to enter.

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Thank you, congratulations.

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Thank you, gentlemen.

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Thank you.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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I'll take just a brief momentous acknowledge.

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The ceremonial process that we've just

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I've completed here.

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This is my seventh sworn in process.

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started in the city of Morgan Hill being elected to the city council and then

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mayor and to where I am today. So this will be my 12th year of public service

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all told and it's an amazing opportunity to be a servant of the people, to be in

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front of you, providing you with the needs and services that you require.

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And from

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as a board, there are three tenants, water supply, protect the environment and flood protection.

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So those three things are so important, but when you look at water, also look at food,

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which we are involved in that as well through agriculture.

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In California feeds not only the state of California, but it feeds the world, and I am

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so honored and so privileged to be a part of the agriculture community statewide on all

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boards and committees that I represent and serve so thank you for the honor and the opportunity

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to represent you.

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Thank you.

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I too want to express my gratitude to this group, to the community, you know, to the voters,

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and I can't begin to tell you how much this means to me and I too am trying to cry and seeing the father

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in science, the situation, what we just thought, to me is everything.

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You know, public service is about you.

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The opportunity to serve you, to help you, starting with the most silenced, starting

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with the most vulnerable and the most underserved, is a blessing to be able to fill that

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role.

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And this morning, I was a little late in part because I was crying thinking about my grandmother,

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and what a role model she was for me, and you know, she two faced problems having to end school at age after eighth grade so work in the factory, you know at age 13 in Milwaukee, and that's

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The story of immigration is the story for so many of us. She worked alongside the African Americans who had come up because of the great migration to find work in Milwaukee.

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And that is a world we cherish, is a world of people working with each other, not at age 13. But you know, a world where everyone has the opportunity to contribute, where everyone is treated with respect.

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And I've dreamed of having that opportunity and I especially wanted to have that opportunity

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amongst people with heart, with heart.

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And I believe I now have that opportunity because it is so clear to me that my colleagues

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have heart and we are going to use that heart in order to always work in the best interests

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of the community.

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And I think we ask you to participate, we ask you to speak your mind, let us know if we want to work together.

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So thank you so much for giving me this chance.

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I'm so honored and so proud.

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First I'd like to introduce my wife Pat and my grandson Jack right here.

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And this is my 41st year of elected office, and I'd appreciate the judge because I knew

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your parents before you were born,

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right?

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So to me, it's an honor to be here, and it's an honor to be selected by the people of the

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and all the staff to make us do all the beautiful things we want to do here, and that's my basic goal.

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We want to create this environment where we're being creative, we're excited about doing all the things we want to do,

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and enjoy ourselves as we do it.

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So those are my calling signs that I always have.

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And I invite the public to help us and participate in all the joyful work that we're going to be doing here.

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So thank you very much everybody.

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Appreciate it.

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All right, let's get to work everybody.

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Give us a

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few minutes to everybody get seated.

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Okay, thank you everybody.

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Appreciate the kind words.

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We're going to move on to the agenda.

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First item on the agenda, item 2.8, I'll re-throw it, adopt a resolution authorizing the execution

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and delivery of water infrastructure, finance and innovation act, wifya, installment purchase

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agreements, wifya master agreement, wifya loan agreements, and wifya term sheets and certain

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other documents, with respect to the water utility authorizing certain acts and connection,

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therewith to attain with the loans of up to $2,500,000 in parentheses, $2,500,000 for certain

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water utility and enterprise projects. There are two action items. This will be a roll call vote.

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Do we have any public speakers on this item at this point?

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Thank you, Mr. Chair. I do have a member of the public on Zoom that has raised her hand. Would you like to take the public comment now?

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Yeah, let's do that.

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Catch our urban.

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I have a second one after the survey.

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Catch you.

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Get your hearers.

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Hello.

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Can you hear me?

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Yes, we can.

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Bye.

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Aye, congratulations to all the new board members.

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I want to, I'm I'm with the Sierra Cunlomer free at a chapter, and this with the alone will be a massive need debt for the district and to be carefully considered.

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Specifically, now is not the time to enter into Olympia, Master of Rement, Barrow, almost

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1.5 billion for them to take a reservoir project.

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The Sierra Club is concerned about the impacts of the particular reservoir project on

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valley waters capital improvement program, budget, and water rates.

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We see the project slamming down the work on other water supply projects, such as recycled

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water and retrofitting existing dams due to the lack of funding and staff resources.

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The Oligwater needs to seriously consider whether or not to move forward with this project

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during an upcoming capital improvement program five year plan update process.

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A comprehensive update on the status of the particular reservoir was due to the water storage

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for a Tory committee in November, but did not take place. Certainly in the board should not go

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forward with this agreement until you have an in-depth discussion about the project risks

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and benefits compared to other waters to fly and reservoir storage projects. For example,

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resources now go to Picheka, Picheka, Picheka, Picheka, Picheka, Picheka, Picheka, Picheka,

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Picheka, Picheka, Picheka, Picheka, Picheka, Picheka, Picheka, Picheka, Picheka, Picheka,

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and the project is still being feasible and cost effective and turning into funding that

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remains might make more sense.

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However, given the current state of the project, it is best not to be formed with this

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WIPI alone for potato reservoir.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. President.

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I appreciate your comments.

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Do we have another speaker?

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Yes.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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I have two more Zoom hands raised and then I have a public card speaker card.

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Our next person on Zoom is Oshia Mazur.

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Good afternoon.

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More members.

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This is James Crowder.

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I'm an attorney at the Solarium Mazur.

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We represent the stop of Jacob Amco Listen, which is my group comprised of Marno

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groups, residents, and other concerns, others that are concerned about the Jacob Amco

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Project.

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Yesterday, we submitted a comment letter on this item, so that you all have a written

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I would first like to point out that although the forward data had a closed session regarding the lawsuit that the coalition has filed against valiant water regarding the chief of technical investigations.

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This lawsuit is not mentioned in the documents contained in the media materials for today.

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I think this is important because in order to obtain funding from the EPA, they request that you let them know about ongoing litigation in under scheduled 12th after the master agreement says that there's none.

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I would also like to note that the meeting material state that some of these loans would be issued under

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categorical exclusions from the national marginal policy act are just wayfully myelates me,

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but which are the peace meals project in separate phases, which the federal regulations do not allow.

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So therefore, no part of the ban should be excluded from me for review.

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There is also a large discrepancy between the project cost that has been provided to the public

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for the past 18 months or so, and the information contained in today's meeting materials.

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But for the checker ban, Bellywater is requesting roughly 1.235 billion dollars in order

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to fund that amount of money. It would cost closer to $3 billion dollars, and that would only

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fund 49% of the profit, therefore the cost. With financing included, appears to be closer to

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$4.5 billion, not the $2.5 billion that the public has been told recently.

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Given this intervention, we think there are other alternatives that could produce the

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$3600 acre foot of water per year that the feasibility reports in the EIR state to

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take a damn project would produce.

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And we request that to the Jacob Sam, be removed from the loan agreements entirely.

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This would allow less controversial projects.

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If Sam is in damn tired with free projects to proceed with with the funding,

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without being burdened by the uncertainty of the Jacob Sam project,

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thank you for your time and listening to my comments.

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Thank you, Mr. Croito, appreciate your comments.

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We have another speaker. Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. Lawrence Abbott.

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Lawrence Abbott?

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Hi, thank you. My name is Lawrence and I'm an old retired wildlife biologist and ecologist. This lived in the

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Bay Area in my whole life and spends a lot of time out there. The all the local classes take

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students out to that area because of its unique and desert-like habitat. That's really great for studying rare plants and rare owls.

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So, I'm very familiar with that area and I just want to say that I think it's a very, very costly mistake if you, you know, go this route.

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This is a time-and-down where dams are coming down throughout the state and for good reason,

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when

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dams gore, you know, loses so much water to evaporation, especially in an area that is very

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desert-like, it actually has a lot of desert plants and desert animals.

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It gives you the feeling that you have plenty of water when the reservoirs are full, then all

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reservoirs go empty at the same time and you don't have water. So building

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extra reservoirs doesn't help when you need water, it's exactly when you

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don't have water. So that alone is probably the most important reason not to do

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this, but also the sense of nature of that area. It's a critically important

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environmental area and of course you'll see that in the environmental review and

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and all the lawsuits that will be happening.

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Also, the price tag is definitely rocks.

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Definitely going to be over four and a half billion

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for reasons you've just heard.

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It's descriptive and ignores climate impacts.

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Again, we're destroyed over 1,500 acres of

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sensitive natural communities, including greenhouse gas.

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Contribute to increasing greenhouse gases,

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emissions and only provide a small amount of water

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for the valiant water customers in any given year and of course only in those years when water is

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already abundant. So thank you so much for listening and I can have a feeling that I think

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your minds are already made up at this point. I know you guys always listen to public comments

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right at the end before you're going to vote and don't really tend to consider them, but please do

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because this is going to cost a lot of money and be able a lot of wasted money. Thanks so much

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Thank you, Mr. Abbott.

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We have another.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Ms. Molly Colton.

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Ms. Colton.

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I thank you.

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Good afternoon, Board members.

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My name is Molly Colton, and I'm speaking on behalf of Sierra Club, California.

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We are the legislative and regulatory branch of the Sierra Club in California.

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Sierra Club and other conservation groups opposed the Pacheco Reservoir Expansion Project.

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And we urge this project to be a move from the WIFIA loan program and violent water's investment portfolio entirely.

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The drug environmental impact report states that approximately of 5,600 acres and 28,000 acres of designated critical habitat

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or within the project's study area as well as the assessment area.

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The environmental impact of this project will be much greater than any supposed environmental benefits to fish

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on Pacheco Creek as well as rather wildlife refuges in San Joaquin Valley.

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The project was opened the loss of hundreds of acres of oak and sick and more forests

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and acres of red care and habitat as well as threatened federally protected species such as

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golden eagles. This project will introduce four water quality in the Central Valley water

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project into Pacheco Creek, the Pajaro River and the Monari Bay, which will likely harm water

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quality and therefore fish and other water-offended species in these ecosystems.

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Further, the cost of this project is outrageous and will only continue to get more expensive

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what's time.

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Valley Waters continued to assert that the project would only cost $2.5 billion.

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However, this figure that is out future financing costs.

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The real cost of this project is likely already more than $4.5 billion.

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This money would be much better spent on other local and regional projects that Valley Waters

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already doing such as water purification, water efficiency and recycling. Thank you for listening

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to these concerns and congrats to the new board members who look forward to working with you on these

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issues. Thank you, Ms. Colton. I appreciate your comments. Do we have any other virtual?

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Thank you, Mr. Chair. I have no other hands raised in zip. Okay, we have two speakers in house.

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First speaker is Meg Gibson.

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Good afternoon, board members. My name is Meg Giverson. Thank you for the opportunity to comment. I would urge that the Pecheca Reservoir Project be removed from your consideration, because the capacity, the cost, the end dollars and the cost to the environment and the climate do not cancel out. Those things would require that a person who looks at this project would say, no, no, no, no, let's look elsewhere.

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And the reasons are that, first of all, the surface water storage, such as reservoirs behind dams,

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are more expensive than groundwater storage.

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And the Santa Clara Valley Water District figures also show that.

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And who pays for these expensive projects?

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Well, 90% of the dollars in California for water utility projects come from the public, from the ratepayers.

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And unfortunately, that's especially hard on the one-third of the California rate pairs

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who are low-income.

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So please consider that when you're looking at these expensive projects.

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Excuse me, projects.

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Groundwater storage, as I mentioned, is more extensive and it's more extensive because

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it's eight times more of it for a new groundwater storage than there would be for new

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storage behind, storage behind dams. So Stanford, those are Stanford statistics, excuse me, I'm

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getting ahead of myself. So we have the cost of the storage, we have the fact that there's

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much more groundwater storage than there is behind dams. Additionally, as another speaker has already

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said, there is a huge problem with the evaporation. Surface storage in California loses about

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two million acre-feet a year, and that's almost a third of what California urban people use.

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That's a huge amount, building another yet another evaporative surface does not make sense.

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Further, the Pecheco Dam will be generating its own harmful algal blooms, which are toxic.

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It will also be taking algal bloom water from San Luis Reservoir.

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The carbon footprint is a similarly bad problem, GHG, greenhouse gases are known to be associated

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with the reservoirs because reservoirs generate methane, which is the worst of the gases.

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It doesn't make sense.

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The carbon footprint would be really bad for our climate.

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These state water resources board pointed out in 2013 that we now have an unparalleled

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opportunity in California to move aggressively toward a more sustainable water

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future. A strongly encouraged local and regional water agencies, and I would point out

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this is one of those, towards a sustainable water future. We are looking for sustainable

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water that will be clean, abundant, and local. This is achieved the state board said

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Through water recycling, water conservation in the use of storm water, which are job proof for liable and minimize our carbon footprint, and could be sustained over the long term, and I would add my plea to theirs.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you, Ms. Caberson, for your comments.

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Ms. Vimi's Redberg.

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Good for not to die correctly.

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Thank you.

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Good for not.

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Okay.

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Hello.

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Thank you so much for the time for public comments.

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Good afternoon, Chair and Directors, especially New Sworn and Directors.

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My name is Mimi Spredri, my pronouns are she, her.

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I'm a member of Orchard City Indivisible Environmental Justice, as well as a colleague of

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divestile Acon Valley, which is a local and digitally led organization.

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The Pacheco Dam is too controversial and would put too big of a burden on county constituents.

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The money needs to be spent on other important projects, such as for the Lexington Dam, for

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example, I was an evacuee of the San Jose floods in 2018, and that has not been fully resolved.

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I now live in San Jose District 4, but this is still a danger to downtown San Jose.

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Not to mention the indigenous lands of the Amalutesan, which would be impacted.

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There are better and more sustainable ways to preserve water, less expensive as well in this time of great drought in California.

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And I am because of climate crisis, I'm truly afraid for our younger generations.

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And that's a big prerogative for us.

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I think I'm a little younger than most of you here on the board.

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But we need to think ahead for sustainability for our children and our grandchildren and the generations to come.

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Thank you so much for allowing public to comment, have a great

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker for your comments. So, that's the last of our public speakers at this particular time. So, we have a presentation, Darren Taylor, you're in charge.

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Good afternoon, Chair for Tim, for Farella and the members of the board. My name is Charlene Sun of the Treasury and Data Manager for Belly Water.

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And in the front here, we have our panel financing the financing team that's being involved in this project for the last year.

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We have Mr. Doug Brown, our Bond Council from Strabbling, Mr. Edson from Public Resources Advisory Group.

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Mr. Brian Hopper, who's our district council from District Council's office in CFO, Daren Taylor.

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We have a brief presentation. If the police is the board, we can proceed with the presentation.

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So

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staff will be going over our recommendations, the financing schedule and in the general description of the with your loan program and the master credit agreement key terms and the assumptions and legal covenants related to this program.

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The staff recommendation is for the board to approve up to $2.5 billion of the water utility master credit agreement to fund the water utility projects that are currently entertained.

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In terms of the financing schedule, we are here today December 13 for the board to consider this item.

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We actually, just five minutes ago, received the credit rating from Fitch for this particular

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with yellow and Fitch did assign us with a double A plus credit ratings. We are very pleased

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with that rating. If the board approves the item today, we would expect to be able to close

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on this master agreement by the end of January. So generally, the with yellow program is very flexible.

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It's administered by the United States Environmental Protection Agency.

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It will fund up to 49 percent of the project costs.

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The mass-requetted agreements describes the terms and conditions under which the loan will be drawn

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in the terms and conditions under which interest will occur.

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and interest will not accrue to any of this loan until we actually do a draw-down.

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And for projects such as Pacheco, where perhaps the board still needs a little bit of time to make deliberations,

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of staff would have no plans to draw on that loan, and therefore no interest will accrue to the Pacheco portion of the with the loan.

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The lone repayment is very flexible and staff has negotiated with the EPA to allow us to defer interest and principle so that we can push out all that payment a little bit farther down the road to help smooth out our long-term rate projection without this mechanism our long-term rate projection would be materially impacted.

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The interest rate will be locked at the time of each loan execution.

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And right now, we're contemplating loan number one and loan number two to be funding

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planning and design costs only.

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And as of last week, that loan rate is right now 3.68%.

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It could change by the time we get to January and it could increase over time if we delay

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this particular financing. And this slide outlined some of the key terms.

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So right now, staff has negotiated for the loan to be available for us to draw down any time

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over the next eight years, over ten loans, up to ten loans.

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So, you know,

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right so think of this as a line of credit you set it up you draw on it if you need to but if you

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don't need to no one is forcing you to draw on it and therefore if you don't draw on it then there's no

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obligations created the with your loan is set up to be a subordinate lean so but if there is ever a

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an event of default we would spring to senior lean there is no pre-payment penalty there are additional

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Covenants, for example, the 1.25,

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rate covenant, and 1.1 times for a subordinate rate covenant.

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There are various reporting requirements and remedies.

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Our highlight in this table here. One thing that is a little bit different about with your loan is there is a concept of a development default. So that if the borrower does not achieve substantial completion within 24 months of the state of substantial completion, then it could be

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completion date would be the date that we have provided them with our final plans and steps prior to construction.

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00:50:38,300 --> 00:50:45,320
So that would be the deliverable. As long as we are able to provide that deliverable then we will not be in development default.

450
00:50:49,130 --> 00:50:59,470
So some of the details of the longs are outlined here. So as I mentioned, low number one is set up for Anderson planning and design costs.

451
00:50:59,470 --> 00:51:07,390
right now it's budget at 73.9 million closing date, closing date is end of January 1st

452
00:51:07,390 --> 00:51:15,630
interest is December of 2029. 1st principle is June of 2049. Final principle is June of 2059

453
00:51:15,630 --> 00:51:21,670
and you can really see how we're able to push this out and the objective is to achieve this kind of

454
00:51:21,670 --> 00:51:27,410
debt service profile where over the very long term we're trying to achieve a level debt service

455
00:51:27,410 --> 00:51:33,470
over the very long term by pushing out all of that with your debt to the back end of this curve.

456
00:51:34,130 --> 00:51:38,350
Now, again, if the board ultimately decides not to continue any particular projects,

457
00:51:38,870 --> 00:51:44,590
we would not be drawing on that loan, and therefore this kind of like projection would decrease

458
00:51:44,590 --> 00:51:45,950
course one in length.

459
00:51:48,720 --> 00:51:52,940
So in terms of the legal structure, I mentioned that there is a rate

460
00:51:54,160 --> 00:52:10,800
which is outlined here, and this is what we call a flow funds to show you where the water utility rates and charges and water utility system revenues has to be utilized in accordance with our water utility master agreements.

461
00:52:12,380 --> 00:52:20,900
So in conclusion, we want to emphasize that staff's recommendation is for the board to approve the master credit agreement.

462
00:52:20,900 --> 00:52:27,700
we believe that it's to our benefits. It does not obligate the board to make any decisions about

463
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:36,020
any projects at this time, whether it's Pacheco or Anderson. It does not limit the board's ability to make

464
00:52:36,620 --> 00:52:42,180
determinations later on in the project development process. In terms of the good faith estimate

465
00:52:42,740 --> 00:52:50,240
and mentioned that as of last week, the current interest rate is at 3.68% and this would generate a

466
00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:55,580
but over $2 billion in proceeds and total debt service payment over that very long period of

467
00:52:55,580 --> 00:52:57,600
time is 4.78 million.

468
00:52:58,060 --> 00:53:04,260
And this is a structure that will allow us to save up to $889 million over the life of

469
00:53:04,260 --> 00:53:06,640
the loan compared to other financing mechanisms.

470
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:16,180
I did have a brief conversation with the EPA this morning and inquired about what if the

471
00:53:16,180 --> 00:53:24,020
board approves the master credit agreement today and what if later on the board decides not to continue with a project.

472
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,780
Sorry, let me just flip back to that page.

473
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:37,760
And based on that discussion, the EPA said that they would, you know, they would be willing to work with us to provide some kind of substitution

474
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:46,260
if that were the case, because they don't want to be in the position of not being able to

475
00:53:46,260 --> 00:53:49,400
to help us finance our projects either.

476
00:53:50,260 --> 00:53:57,060
So they understand that there is some controversy with Pachekos specifically, and they're willing to work with us on that.

477
00:53:57,420 --> 00:54:03,880
By approving the master agreement today, it's really just setting the ceiling and setting up the financing mechanism

478
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:08,200
that will allow the board to make the decision on the project leader on.

479
00:54:08,460 --> 00:54:17,420
And it will also help us set up the fiscal year 24 rate setting process by enabling us to

480
00:54:17,420 --> 00:54:20,440
embed those assumptions. Current rate projection as soon as possible.

481
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,020
I'm going to interrupt you for a minute. We have a question from Board Member Rebecca.

482
00:54:23,180 --> 00:54:30,220
I'm sorry. I've done. Rebecca, I have I think you chair. I have questions

483
00:54:30,820 --> 00:54:36,100
comments later. But this is just a clarification question. What exactly did you say the size

484
00:54:36,100 --> 00:54:41,000
of our interest payments? That would be due because I thought you said million just right now,

485
00:54:41,140 --> 00:54:48,020
but I thought I had read billion. Okay. So the debt proceeds that would be generated from this package

486
00:54:48,020 --> 00:54:55,560
is a little bit over $2 billion. And total payment over time is $4.78 billion billion.

487
00:54:59,980 --> 00:54:59,980
Okay,

488
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,520
Okay, thank you. Continue. That's it? Yes.

489
00:55:04,700 --> 00:55:07,900
Okay. Thank you. Any questions from the Board? Do you come out?

490
00:55:10,410 --> 00:55:10,870
Dr. Bell?

491
00:55:16,150 --> 00:55:16,370
Yes.

492
00:55:19,490 --> 00:55:26,910
The dollar amount for the loan is based on what criteria.

493
00:55:27,210 --> 00:55:28,750
Where did you come up with that number?

494
00:55:30,260 --> 00:55:36,720
So, the dollar amount of the loan is based on 49% of total eligible project costs for

495
00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:39,720
a Patechekle, Anderson, and the percolation dam.

496
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,760
Okay, so then you have it broken up into 10 pieces.

497
00:55:44,940 --> 00:55:47,040
10 loans, 1 through 10.

498
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:54,200
Not necessarily, so the way the loan will work as it's structured right now is there is a

499
00:55:54,200 --> 00:56:01,820
planning a design loan right now that the EPA can enter into, but in the future when we get

500
00:56:01,820 --> 00:56:06,220
to the construction, if the board approves the project for construction, then we have the

501
00:56:06,220 --> 00:56:11,820
opportunity then to take that construction loan over time. Instead of getting one giant construction

502
00:56:11,820 --> 00:56:19,320
loan, we have the option to break it up over time to meet then business needs, maybe there

503
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:23,380
will be interest rate considerations. So it's an option that we have. We don't have to

504
00:56:23,380 --> 00:56:30,240
exercise all 10 or 10 dollars a month doesn't change. We'll have that dollar amount. It doesn't go

505
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:38,540
bigger every year. Correct. It's locked in right now. The EPA's appropriation or funding allocation to

506
00:56:38,540 --> 00:56:46,300
value water is $2 billion. There's no ups. There's no going up. Okay, so in terms of this financing

507
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:58,340
based on what you just said, the value of projects that are completed earlier is to

508
00:56:58,340 --> 00:57:03,560
are advantage to complete the projects earlier because you've got a fixed dollar amount

509
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:11,140
that doesn't respond to inflation where a construction cost will go up a certain percent

510
00:57:11,140 --> 00:57:20,920
every year, is that correct? Over time, over ten years, construction cost index goes up

511
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:24,560
and then your dollar amount that you got on this loan is at fixed amount.

512
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,280
Certainly, that's generally the case, right?

513
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:40,120
Okay, so then the advantage of getting projects that you can build, say in the next three or four or five years,

514
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:48,220
using this vehicle is that the value of the projects you get better value for your money

515
00:57:48,220 --> 00:57:54,340
than say some projects that are going to take 10-15 years. Is that correct?

516
00:57:57,700 --> 00:58:02,500
I want to invite someone maybe see a full tailored to respond to that question.

517
00:58:05,450 --> 00:58:07,010
You, you off mic?

518
00:58:09,580 --> 00:58:13,980
So the advantage is to build projects faster, as what I'm saying.

519
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:20,000
It's better to use this to build projects faster and using the whip alone process.

520
00:58:20,420 --> 00:58:25,700
Dr. Bell, that is true in general. One of the things to consider is the size of the projects.

521
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:31,460
The biggest projects in front of Valley Water today are Pacheco, Anderson, and the Purified Water Program.

522
00:58:32,100 --> 00:58:35,620
There are other projects that pale in comparison to the size.

523
00:58:35,620 --> 00:58:40,400
So, that's another consideration when you think about overall value of moving forward or

524
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:41,920
or 10-year project versus a three-year project.

525
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:47,880
So, if we put a package of projects that told the same amount of money that the whip alone

526
00:58:50,100 --> 00:59:05,600
allows us to do with that fixed amount of money, if we put a package of projects as you

527
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:14,040
would be to our advantage financially in projects that would take a longer period of time for the same amount of money in my correct?

528
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:15,080
In theory, that's true.

529
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:22,100
Okay, so I think that that's something to look at during the capital improvement budget workshop,

530
00:59:22,260 --> 00:59:32,420
and I'd like to refer to the capital project workshop to determine which projects we can complete faster due to the fact

531
00:59:32,420 --> 00:59:39,600
this would be a cost saving to the taxpayers by using and it would be the most advantage

532
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:44,840
to us to complete projects that we can complete faster for the same amount of money.

533
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:51,260
I'm not talking about particular projects, but I know we have a long list of projects.

534
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:58,220
One of the things I found out is the Valley Water has a long list of projects folks, and

535
00:59:58,220 --> 00:59:59,960
And I think we have to figure out.

536
01:00:00,500 --> 01:00:12,860
How we can get bang for a buck here financially in building the projects that we can complete fast and and that's something to look at.

537
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:24,120
I like to have that referred to the, I don't need to deal with it now, but I think it's something to analyze between now and January 10th of capital improvement workshop.

538
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:29,760
Mr. Chairman, is that the schedule I'm I'm I'm I'm correct right so I think we ought

539
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:37,500
to study that because I think financially it would be to our branch to to find projects

540
01:00:37,500 --> 01:00:43,720
we can expedite and complete faster the other the only other question I have is what's

541
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:50,080
source of money can be used to pay back the loan can it could be used money from other governmental

542
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:55,760
entities, local governments, state governments, regional governments to use money from any source

543
01:00:55,760 --> 01:01:02,640
to pay back the loans, or we restricted on what money we can use to pay these loans back.

544
01:01:03,220 --> 01:01:10,400
So, generally, the loan is secured by our water utility rating charges, however, to the extent

545
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:16,640
that we have lined up partners who want to contribute to the project, they would certainly be

546
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:20,000
be allocated their fair share of the debt service payments.

547
01:01:20,500 --> 01:01:27,660
So we get our people all over the state using these, this means correct, I think I'm

548
01:01:27,660 --> 01:01:28,340
correct, right?

549
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:36,800
So what it be the advantage of the state to piggyback and try to do something to expedite

550
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:42,520
financing and California for all the water projects to piggyback and have the state help

551
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:50,000
local governments like the water district to complete as many California projects as possible.

552
01:01:50,900 --> 01:01:54,120
Now I can't help but folks I have to think like a state senator,

553
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:57,120
this is just my first

554
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:02,220
meeting so I'm thinking like a state senator financing projects in California and I think

555
01:02:02,220 --> 01:02:09,600
California needs to expedite and maximize its return on its dollar because we never get our fair

556
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:23,700
from the federal government, and we ought to use every means we can to get our fair share of the dollars coming back to California, and specifically coming back to the Santa Clara Valley Water District in my opinion.

557
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:38,420
So is that using the state looking at the state, can we understand that the state could help find the debt service on these loans?

558
01:02:38,420 --> 01:02:47,620
The state through the the whistle program proposition one has provided valley water with a little bit over

559
01:02:47,620 --> 01:02:55,580
$500 million in maximum eligibility for that grant that is available to fund the project cost.

560
01:02:56,460 --> 01:03:05,000
Okay, so can we have that issue looked at I'm going to bring it up again when it comes to the legislative program by the way.

561
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:13,560
morning folks. But can we have that issue brought up again at the budget capital budget

562
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:22,020
workshop as well and how we can maximize the state matching our big projects. I think

563
01:03:22,020 --> 01:03:29,280
the big projects, hopefully are the ones the state can match or if you want to put

564
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:35,480
another way, they got to become one thing I know about the budget, I think the status

565
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:42,880
and put enough money into water projects. I'll just say that flat out. They have to put

566
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:50,420
up their monitor for sure. We got President Biden come through with this one and all the

567
01:03:50,420 --> 01:03:59,260
federal program, but we need the state to come through with a water project program this

568
01:03:59,260 --> 01:04:09,840
I mean, that's my opinion, so if that could come back again at January workshop, I don't think

569
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:13,080
we're going to solve all the problems in January, by the way, I think we need concepts

570
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:13,560
here.

571
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:18,840
So we keep working, we've got to keep working on these things over time, so do you have any

572
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:19,720
comments on that?

573
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:28,720
The state of the state expressed interest in helping us other than the $500 million allocation

574
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:36,080
Go ahead.

575
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:37,240
Through the chair.

576
01:04:37,380 --> 01:04:38,040
Director Bell.

577
01:04:38,340 --> 01:04:39,380
The short answer is yes.

578
01:04:39,540 --> 01:04:44,400
In fact, we have Bart Brume, who in the audience have taken here who can speak more

579
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:44,780
to that.

580
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:45,700
But the short answer is yes.

581
01:04:45,820 --> 01:04:50,160
In fact, the state legislative team, that's one of their biggest priorities is I think

582
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:54,180
the board will see actually in a future agenda item later on down this agenda.

583
01:04:54,700 --> 01:04:59,000
But yes, we actively advocate with the governor's office as you know with the state senate,

584
01:04:59,100 --> 01:04:59,960
the state, the entire state legislature.

585
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:07,000
Legislature to make sure that our projects and our portfolio is well positioned to receive every dime of state funding that we can qualify for.

586
01:05:07,260 --> 01:05:15,060
And we do have legislative meetings with our board with the elected in the state and also at the federal level twice a year.

587
01:05:15,380 --> 01:05:19,940
So we'll have that opportunity to address our elected locally to raise those questions that you have.

588
01:05:19,940 --> 01:05:22,020
you're going to be involved in that yourself.

589
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,300
Yes, sir's an aqua.

590
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:26,560
No, that's the board of director.

591
01:05:26,740 --> 01:05:28,980
But aqua has its own negotiating agency as well.

592
01:05:29,500 --> 01:05:31,600
So, you know, we were multi-tasked with all that.

593
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:32,560
Did you have any other comments?

594
01:05:32,620 --> 01:05:33,040
I'm done.

595
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:33,460
OK.

596
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:34,340
Director Kagan.

597
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:39,680
Thank you.

598
01:05:41,620 --> 01:05:43,740
So, I have a couple of questions.

599
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:49,280
And in some ways, they relate to director Bell's comments.

600
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:59,540
My first is a question how and when we have two projects included in this application, and clearly, you know, Anderson is pretty straightforward.

601
01:05:59,820 --> 01:06:00,980
It's our number one priority.

602
01:06:02,420 --> 01:06:07,260
We're even in the middle of construction of one of the projects.

603
01:06:07,500 --> 01:06:09,140
So it makes sense that it was included.

604
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:16,920
But how, what projects were considered, and when did the board check in with,

605
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,260
It being Anderson and Pacheco.

606
01:06:25,940 --> 01:06:27,380
Anderson is pretty clear.

607
01:06:28,380 --> 01:06:33,520
With Pacheco, given it's the biggest project in front of us, and what in the past

608
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,920
we've heard from the full board is it's the number two priority for the full board.

609
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,440
And given the size of it, that's the reason why we looked at it.

610
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:41,560
We did look at other projects.

611
01:06:41,620 --> 01:06:43,580
We looked at, for example, purified water.

612
01:06:44,580 --> 01:06:49,860
In fact, we do have plans to pursue wiffy alone for the purified water program.

613
01:06:49,860 --> 01:06:57,000
But we need to advance the project further until such that we would be ready to submit a

614
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:57,500
yellow eye.

615
01:06:57,740 --> 01:07:02,280
There's a whole process that goes into place and seeking a WIFI alone.

616
01:07:02,620 --> 01:07:08,840
Those two projects were the projects that were ready, where we could involve the federal

617
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:15,540
compliance aspects of it, into the contracts that were put in together for these two projects.

618
01:07:16,140 --> 01:07:21,160
looked at Rinkanata, just wasn't a project that was, it was already in construction, low

619
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,700
dollar amounts at the time, relative to these two projects.

620
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:27,640
So when you think about vang for the buck and where the boards, priorities were in terms

621
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:32,500
of number one priority, Anderson number two, Pateco, that was why staff did what we did.

622
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:37,700
I guess I would just suggest that I think it would have been a good idea to have check

623
01:07:37,700 --> 01:07:43,800
back in with the board because I don't think there was a unanimity of support for Pateco.

624
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:48,660
So I personally was neutral, you know, I was willing to proceed with the environmental analysis

625
01:07:48,660 --> 01:07:54,040
and see where that led, but I always had some questions about it and I don't think

626
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:59,580
I'm the only of the past board members that felt that way and certainly we have new board

627
01:07:59,580 --> 01:08:02,700
members coming in who may have a difference of opinion.

628
01:08:03,260 --> 01:08:13,120
I think it was maybe premature to decide not to include purified water because pretty consistently

629
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:22,820
that's what I hear from the community as being their highest priority. They're very interested in recycled water and

630
01:08:22,820 --> 01:08:25,400
being able to treat

631
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:29,380
waste water to drinking water standards. So

632
01:08:29,380 --> 01:08:34,040
maybe we could have had a little bit of a reality check. I would like to follow up though on

633
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:37,280
Director Bell's comments, which is looking at a portfolio

634
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:40,480
of projects that can be delivered more quickly

635
01:08:40,480 --> 01:08:47,820
is advantageous. I mean, we see even under normal conditions, the escalation costs for projects

636
01:08:47,820 --> 01:08:56,080
and right now, we see in our own bids, right, that there's a lot more volatility and we

637
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:59,420
continue to pay higher and higher prices for projects.

638
01:09:03,440 --> 01:09:07,580
So, that's kind of my thought process.

639
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:17,000
I did think could we apply for a part of it, you know, right now, can we, like, for example,

640
01:09:17,500 --> 01:09:22,840
if we were all in agreement that we wanted to pursue this for Anderson, could we just move

641
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:28,360
forward with that component of it while taking a look at what other projects might be considered,

642
01:09:28,540 --> 01:09:33,460
something that could be delivered shorter term, something that might include purified water,

643
01:09:33,460 --> 01:09:39,040
or could we enter into an agreement and this last part is probably not, but where we have

644
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:46,400
identified some of the projects, or we've identified Anderson, but had more loosely defined

645
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:55,140
what the other funds could be for. And then lastly, when I was reading through this, I didn't

646
01:09:55,140 --> 01:09:59,980
really click until I'm a son, made the presentation and the whole...

647
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:21,860
The issue of the development defaults problem. If we had an issue during construction or a claim or a contractor he defaulted, I think we're running a little bit of a risk there that I'm not used to on these kinds of projects and maybe that's just a lack of familiarity on my part.

648
01:10:21,860 --> 01:10:46,160
But I do think particularly for projects where we may have permitting issues, we could be finished with the design and I'm sorry with the design and ready to go to construction but we could have a lot of issues if somehow we aren't able to get the permits in time or if there are changes in permit requirements or things of that nature.

649
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:56,060
So, to summarize, my thoughts, I agree with the idea of looking at other, more achievable

650
01:10:56,060 --> 01:11:01,460
projects in the near term to bring forward, and my higher priority, if we're just looking

651
01:11:01,460 --> 01:11:09,780
at the big projects, would be purified water, rather than Pachaco, given the fact that I don't

652
01:11:09,780 --> 01:11:13,240
think we know what to do with Pachaco at this time.

653
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:21,480
I'm not, you know, hammering a nail in the coffin, but I also see that there's some issues

654
01:11:21,480 --> 01:11:23,940
and challenges associated with the library of that.

655
01:11:24,140 --> 01:11:25,960
So I'll leave it at that for now.

656
01:11:26,780 --> 01:11:27,940
Thank you, Director Kiki, can you do it, Chrysler?

657
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:32,160
Thank you so much.

658
01:11:32,220 --> 01:11:33,520
First I want to thank the staff.

659
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:39,580
I know that my legal nerd background actually is in secured loans.

660
01:11:40,300 --> 01:11:45,060
My dad has retired bankruptcy judge and my professor in mentor in law schools Elizabeth Warren,

661
01:11:45,060 --> 01:11:48,680
who really made her career start of her career with secured loans.

662
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:50,480
And this is a secured loan.

663
01:11:50,660 --> 01:11:53,300
A secured loan is any loan as many people know

664
01:11:53,300 --> 01:11:55,880
that is backed by supported by collateral.

665
01:11:56,940 --> 01:11:59,640
And in the water, just given some legal background

666
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,760
to general public for water projects,

667
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:06,360
often what's unusual about these secured loans

668
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:09,500
is that they're actually secured on many of them.

669
01:12:09,660 --> 01:12:12,000
Not just on the assets, the value of the assets

670
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,700
that we're building, but actually on the projected

671
01:12:14,700 --> 01:12:24,400
revenues. So if it turns out that a project we're building ends out not having any revenues,

672
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:30,800
it is in that I looked at the loan agreements, it's very similar to other loan agreements.

673
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:37,000
I've drafted and negotiated. We could actually have our loan pulled and fully accelerated,

674
01:12:37,540 --> 01:12:44,260
meaning our loan is completely pulled and we owe all two billion immediately if we've taken out two

675
01:12:44,260 --> 01:12:51,860
billion because of the events of default, which includes the collateral not being as valuable

676
01:12:51,860 --> 01:12:54,800
as what we have stated, and collateral again needs future revenues.

677
01:12:56,220 --> 01:13:02,760
So we risk if it turns out we don't have these revenues from this dam and the reservoir,

678
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:06,680
we risk having to pay two billion dollars immediately.

679
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:13,760
So I think that is a huge risk that from a legal and risk perspective that I think we need

680
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:19,200
consider, you know, additionally, I mean, I always focus on risk. That's really what lawyers do, right?

681
01:13:20,020 --> 01:13:24,340
And I mean, first I want to state everyone knows I'm opposed to this damn for social justice reasons, right?

682
01:13:24,340 --> 01:13:29,080
So you all know that my bias, I'm going to put it out there. I'm opposed to the damn, because I don't want

683
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:35,300
the Amulet to try hurt and I don't want our environment hurt. And if impossible to do the damn without doing

684
01:13:35,300 --> 01:13:41,100
those two things. So I'm opposed to it, but here I'm just talking about financial terms, financial terms

685
01:13:41,100 --> 01:13:44,520
that would come to pass with a project I support, like water recycling.

686
01:13:45,660 --> 01:13:48,800
So anyway, so I believe we face significant risk

687
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:52,640
due to this uncertain collateral, collateral that

688
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:56,960
really truly hasn't yet been determined because we had a plan

689
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:57,900
for a dam.

690
01:13:58,280 --> 01:13:59,960
We were told it was unfeasible.

691
01:14:00,540 --> 01:14:02,400
So truly, I think we're at the same stage

692
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,920
with this dam project that we are with water recycling.

693
01:14:05,480 --> 01:14:08,980
We're no further ahead because with both projects,

694
01:14:09,060 --> 01:14:10,200
we don't even have a plan.

695
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:17,900
So I think it's a little bit inaccurate to say that we're ahead in any way, but I want to talk about the risks of the loan.

696
01:14:18,460 --> 01:14:22,720
Also, I asked the question about, did we disclose the litigation?

697
01:14:23,220 --> 01:14:26,180
Because when I looked at the application, I didn't see it.

698
01:14:26,420 --> 01:14:34,340
Now I'm aware that they're probably aware of the litigation, but that is not how the legal process works.

699
01:14:34,340 --> 01:14:43,560
It could be considered a material misrepresentation that we don't include the litigation front

700
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:44,260
in center.

701
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:51,060
Now, I recognize that the legal costs of litigation may not be that high relatively speaking,

702
01:14:51,440 --> 01:14:59,380
low legal costs for this organization is like a million dollars, but that doesn't matter.

703
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:07,680
It is, we are experiencing costs as Ms. Richardson explained the other day. We are experiencing costs due to delay.

704
01:15:08,780 --> 01:15:15,880
So, what I understand that the filing of this lawsuit has increased our cost by anywhere between $10 and $200 million.

705
01:15:16,580 --> 01:15:24,100
And that is a significant risk that we have, additionally, truly the only way to settle this lawsuit.

706
01:15:24,100 --> 01:15:27,160
And I'm not talking anything that's in the private session.

707
01:15:27,220 --> 01:15:29,580
This is stuff I said during my campaign.

708
01:15:29,940 --> 01:15:31,720
So you know, this is all based on my reading

709
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:35,920
of publicly available documents, not saying anything.

710
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:36,700
That's not public.

711
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:39,380
My assessment of it is that really can't make this law

712
01:15:39,380 --> 01:15:40,960
to go away without giving up the damn.

713
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,580
So in the private sector, we call it a bet the company case.

714
01:15:45,440 --> 01:15:47,220
So for sure, bet the company case.

715
01:15:47,620 --> 01:15:48,740
These are the front and center.

716
01:15:49,300 --> 01:15:52,740
Now why am I concerned that this application

717
01:15:52,740 --> 01:15:59,440
didn't have front and center of material risk. Well first because we could be considered unethical

718
01:15:59,940 --> 01:16:05,420
and unprincipled and I don't even want to risk the appearance of that. Even though it might

719
01:16:05,420 --> 01:16:11,040
be strictly legal, not to include it, I think we need to always err on the side of high integrity.

720
01:16:11,660 --> 01:16:21,000
So also because it puts our relationship at risk with the EPA. As does having a project, the biggest

721
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:25,280
project in this loan application. I think that what I'm trying to get at is I think there's a risk.

722
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:28,980
This is premature. It's what I'm trying to get through. There's a risk to filing an application

723
01:16:28,980 --> 01:16:35,620
with a project that the new board hasn't been briefed on. I had a project that so many circumstances

724
01:16:35,620 --> 01:16:40,560
have changed. Everything like interest rates have climbed significantly since it was first agreed

725
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:50,620
upon to a continuing problem with importing matters from overseas to the higher cost of labor,

726
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:58,240
So, I think we really need to understand the full totality of the risk, and again, I just

727
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:01,900
can never agree to us filing an application for a project we don't know for doing.

728
01:17:02,480 --> 01:17:09,060
It will have cost, and we want to be, we want to be a squeaky clean, always as we can be.

729
01:17:09,740 --> 01:17:12,620
So I hope you can refusence and then re-bring this back up to us.

730
01:17:12,620 --> 01:17:17,940
Maybe we will agree, but swapping project for project is never as easy as described.

731
01:17:17,940 --> 01:17:21,720
It has different collateral, it'll take a different due diligence process.

732
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:26,300
So I hope we can be brief fully before this is brought to us.

733
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:27,300
Thank you.

734
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:29,240
Thank you, Director Director, I swear.

735
01:17:34,250 --> 01:17:34,910
Thank you.

736
01:17:34,910 --> 01:17:35,750
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

737
01:17:36,530 --> 01:17:39,310
Just tell me a quick comment, you know, these.

738
01:17:41,690 --> 01:17:48,310
I would say that, well, I'd say positively more than a majority of our projects into generational

739
01:17:48,310 --> 01:17:49,170
projects.

740
01:17:49,170 --> 01:17:55,950
They generally go from one board to the next and sometimes one board to five boards later

741
01:17:55,950 --> 01:17:59,810
Having been on here so many boards later. I can assure you that that's the case

742
01:18:00,330 --> 01:18:08,930
More than half of the projects in our CIP none of us here will ever see even though we'll still do them, but we won't see them

743
01:18:10,170 --> 01:18:15,350
It's all intergenerational. So that's what we're talking about and generally every year

744
01:18:15,350 --> 01:18:20,470
We go through this trying to figure out how we're going to finance our projects and again

745
01:18:20,470 --> 01:18:24,850
Finance our CIP and our CIP again. It's intergenerational

746
01:18:26,310 --> 01:18:28,570
Most of it is all planned

747
01:18:28,570 --> 01:18:35,090
Some of it is designed half of it is only proposed and

748
01:18:35,090 --> 01:18:37,370
Imagine and so

749
01:18:38,130 --> 01:18:45,190
We still have to do the real thing which is to figure out how to pay for things and this is the way that we pay for them

750
01:18:45,350 --> 01:19:10,530
you know, with borrow money. This is a simple credit line issue. And, you know, I'll read from the memo just for the record, says to the extent that any future board actions result in reduction in the wiffier loans, the deaf service payment schedules would be proposed to be adjusted in a corresponding manner. We don't borrow it, we don't pay for it.

751
01:19:10,530 --> 01:19:21,450
That valuable water would not draw on any of these loans for the construction of any projects and to laugh to the board has approved the construction projects for these projects.

752
01:19:22,350 --> 01:19:27,790
So, you know, we are making a proposal to get us a credit line.

753
01:19:28,470 --> 01:19:35,230
When we're ready to spend it, we get it, and then we decide how we're going to pay pay for it.

754
01:19:35,790 --> 01:19:38,190
That's the nature of the business.

755
01:19:39,250 --> 01:19:45,270
sure every year we look at our in fact our CIP capital improvement plan is

756
01:19:45,270 --> 01:19:52,090
is on the agenda today so every year we look at you know what our projects are

757
01:19:52,530 --> 01:19:59,810
what we're doing with our projects they're always there so we do that

758
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:08,800
We look at our projects every year. We figure out whether we should add more and subtract them, give some up, move some over and so on and out of pay for them.

759
01:20:09,420 --> 01:20:16,400
So that's a process that goes on pretty often more than once, but we do it through our CIP.

760
01:20:18,480 --> 01:20:26,960
And we would respect the Pacheco, you know, I agree, my position on Pacheco has pretty clear

761
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:28,640
I've expressed it many times.

762
01:20:29,340 --> 01:20:33,640
We don't have all the answers, and until we do, we can't make a final decision.

763
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:36,180
So what's the prudent thing to do?

764
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:41,620
I say the prudent thing is to continue to investigate, to look at it until we get to a point.

765
01:20:42,220 --> 01:20:46,260
What we know exactly what is going to cost, what we know what the challenges are, what

766
01:20:46,260 --> 01:20:50,840
we know where the real benefits and the determinants are, and then we make a decision, that's

767
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:55,960
not going to be done by this board. It's an intergenerational project. It's going to be done

768
01:20:55,960 --> 01:21:00,440
by another board, because that's how long it's going to take. But does that mean that because

769
01:21:00,440 --> 01:21:07,320
all of our projects take a long time that we stop now? Then we never get anything done. If you look

770
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:12,040
at all, again, half of the projects that we have, they're necessary, they're required. But

771
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:17,100
some of them will not be done because at the end we decided that they cost too much, they

772
01:21:17,100 --> 01:21:21,860
didn't make any sense, they weren't necessary, they're not required, we shouldn't do

773
01:21:21,860 --> 01:21:22,320
them.

774
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:25,840
So that's the way Pacheco is to me.

775
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:30,820
We're not at a point where we can make a decision but we need to be prudent to preserve a future

776
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:34,340
boards, ability to take advantage of an opportunity.

777
01:21:34,660 --> 01:21:37,880
If it is an opportunity, and if it isn't, to kill it then.

778
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:50,960
And so I don't see the problem of the risk in approving a proposal to get a credit line that we won't use until we want to use it.

779
01:21:51,100 --> 01:21:52,540
It's a simple example.

780
01:21:53,820 --> 01:22:04,800
So I'm ready to make a motion to adopt the recommendation of staff whenever we were through without discussions.

781
01:22:05,780 --> 01:22:09,500
I've got a motion and a second to continue on the discussion.

782
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:11,300
Thank you, Director Estomerra.

783
01:22:11,700 --> 01:22:12,020
Director Schwer.

784
01:22:15,390 --> 01:22:16,170
Thank you, Chair.

785
01:22:17,130 --> 01:22:21,950
I think my comment is similar to Director Estomerra's comment,

786
01:22:22,650 --> 01:22:24,270
but then I think it's important.

787
01:22:25,330 --> 01:22:27,110
I will either read maybe in different words,

788
01:22:28,010 --> 01:22:29,030
but it means the same.

789
01:22:29,690 --> 01:22:34,270
In my mind, I'm seeing this item that's that brought to us

790
01:22:35,190 --> 01:22:36,770
as a financing mechanism.

791
01:22:36,770 --> 01:22:51,210
This is not a project decision question that's in front of the sport and to be very clear that the board did make a decision.

792
01:22:51,830 --> 01:23:00,610
We found Anderson Damway actually awarded part of the Constitution contract with detailed plans and specifications.

793
01:23:00,610 --> 01:23:05,290
But then for Pachekor as a war, it's still being studied.

794
01:23:05,590 --> 01:23:09,850
This board has not made a decision on the project yet.

795
01:23:10,990 --> 01:23:14,930
And there's going to be many analysis coming before this board.

796
01:23:14,990 --> 01:23:17,750
You know, therefore, this board to make a decision on the project.

797
01:23:18,270 --> 01:23:19,770
And I agree with the Director Bill.

798
01:23:19,850 --> 01:23:22,010
I don't think on January 10th,

799
01:23:22,070 --> 01:23:25,610
even though we asked them to bring a detailing more in detail information.

800
01:23:25,610 --> 01:23:32,790
for Chaco, probably the sports bill will need more information to make, so just to be clear

801
01:23:32,790 --> 01:23:38,910
that the support has not made a decision to proceed with Chaco Reservoir project.

802
01:23:39,630 --> 01:23:45,410
And this item in front of us is not the item for us to make a decision on Chaco Reservoir.

803
01:23:45,610 --> 01:23:50,610
If we do that, it's pretty much going to be based on our gut feeling, it's not based on

804
01:23:50,610 --> 01:23:58,290
science and engineering environmental analysis and those are the analysis that we need in order to do that.

805
01:23:59,170 --> 01:24:06,270
So I see this very simply as a mechanism, just like staff indicated that quite a line.

806
01:24:07,270 --> 01:24:14,490
And by the time, if we actually decide to withdraw money for a particular reservoir,

807
01:24:14,490 --> 01:24:20,210
I think Ms. Sun has stated earlier that there will be the board

808
01:24:20,210 --> 01:24:25,650
designed to award a construction contract with approved plants and specifications.

809
01:24:27,590 --> 01:24:30,250
That's way down the road.

810
01:24:31,750 --> 01:24:39,750
And it's that kind of an action that will drive us to start with drawing money from this law.

811
01:24:39,750 --> 01:24:46,590
So, as of now, I see this is a cheap, not cheap as a bad word.

812
01:24:47,630 --> 01:24:57,490
Low interest rate, low interest rate money for us compared to go to the market and borrowing money.

813
01:24:58,130 --> 01:24:59,550
So, I...

814
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:09,660
I applaud staff's initiative and then all this technical work, and together with the support of our consultant.

815
01:25:11,100 --> 01:25:21,600
So I will support this item and if you'd like to ask your model, make the motion I would like to ask in that.

816
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:22,480
We did have a second.

817
01:25:22,480 --> 01:25:23,860
Okay, Ben, I'm sorry.

818
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:26,620
We have a couple more board members that have the testimony.

819
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:29,580
So thank you, Director Schwerier, for that Director's Santos.

820
01:25:38,020 --> 01:25:39,080
We're still learning.

821
01:25:43,180 --> 01:25:45,540
Good. Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chair, appreciate it.

822
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:48,500
Yeah, when I looked at this, I wasn't just looking at Pacheco.

823
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:52,140
I was looking at this opportunity to make sure we had reliable water supply.

824
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:56,180
We got ours when we want to make sure the other generations had the same opportunity.

825
01:25:56,540 --> 01:25:58,480
This is an opportunity for credit.

826
01:25:58,480 --> 01:26:13,200
And the question I have learned, this is prevent us from also example being partnerships with what it be lost by carols or other places, or is it just because of projects we have by ourselves, is it limit us?

827
01:26:14,180 --> 01:26:19,660
There's no limitation here in terms of the board's participation in other projects like those for carols.

828
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:24,020
What's before the board today is simply putting in place a financing mechanism.

829
01:26:24,020 --> 01:26:25,880
I just want to know the province.

830
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:30,040
And for Bacheco and Anderson, and potentially even a substitution project in the future,

831
01:26:31,580 --> 01:26:32,700
it's a great loan.

832
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,060
I have to say it's a low cost loan.

833
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:36,280
Very flexible terms.

834
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:38,580
It's a good thing.

835
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:40,540
Yeah, and that's my point.

836
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:42,800
Like, share of it just commenting on it.

837
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:47,060
Yes, it doesn't prevent us from partnerships, which is John and I have talked about

838
01:26:47,060 --> 01:26:48,480
and other board members.

839
01:26:49,060 --> 01:26:51,140
This idea is to, the opportunity is now.

840
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:53,940
I don't want to lose this opportunity with low interest rates.

841
01:26:53,940 --> 01:26:58,000
because we don't know the next president or whoever may be, things could change.

842
01:26:58,860 --> 01:27:01,600
So when you have that opportunity, you embrace it and do it.

843
01:27:01,780 --> 01:27:03,580
We all got homes, we've been through this.

844
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:04,740
So it's the same situation.

845
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:08,280
So as I second that I will be supporting this.

846
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:09,140
Thank you, Directors.

847
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:10,740
Something so.

848
01:27:11,300 --> 01:27:14,600
I have two more speakers, and then I want to wrap up this discussion,

849
01:27:15,180 --> 01:27:17,760
because we've been a little bit over an hour on this one agenda item.

850
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:19,840
We've got a whole agenda in front of us.

851
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:21,320
So Director Bell,

852
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:26,340
And then director Eisenberg, you'll have the last word on this and then we're going to take the vote.

853
01:27:28,570 --> 01:27:39,150
I think it's that long one is Anderson only and then probably long two and three will be Anderson projects.

854
01:27:41,010 --> 01:27:49,730
And we're not going to get into any other projects for quite a bit of time. Is that correct?

855
01:27:50,290 --> 01:27:52,790
Am I looking at that? Am I thinking correctly?

856
01:27:53,850 --> 01:27:58,910
So we want to use this really to expedite the Anderson project.

857
01:27:59,290 --> 01:28:02,830
That's the primary reason I would support this.

858
01:28:03,830 --> 01:28:07,990
My other thought is that the motion with the understanding,

859
01:28:08,230 --> 01:28:09,890
I don't know, asked to make her the motion,

860
01:28:10,610 --> 01:28:19,610
that we would have a discussion at the CIP study session on the projects

861
01:28:19,610 --> 01:28:28,310
that could maximize the value of this loan process and projects that we can expedite.

862
01:28:29,450 --> 01:28:37,510
I sort of have a lot of questions about what about, you know, I'm always a fix it first kind of guy.

863
01:28:38,710 --> 01:28:40,290
You know, you don't, you don't let

864
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:49,220
under maintain facilities catch up with you because then they end up costing more money.

865
01:28:49,220 --> 01:28:59,460
So I don't know what lists of those kinds are modernizations of the treatment plants, other kinds of things like that.

866
01:28:59,900 --> 01:29:02,120
Do I develop, I might interject for you?

867
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:04,840
Yeah, I would like to have that understand.

868
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:07,740
Sure, there's no need to amend the motion at all.

869
01:29:07,900 --> 01:29:12,260
What you could do is do a board member request for your discussion.

870
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:14,000
That's a procedure.

871
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:16,900
I want to know if everybody feels about that.

872
01:29:16,900 --> 01:29:19,020
Yeah, we all support.

873
01:29:20,260 --> 01:29:26,680
I'm glad we respond as a member of the member that made the motion and also, of course,

874
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:32,200
as a member of the CIP committee, that's what is on the agenda is exactly what you're

875
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:32,560
saying.

876
01:29:33,020 --> 01:29:36,460
Is a review of the projects that's what the CIP is about.

877
01:29:36,900 --> 01:29:42,860
And then we have our reports on the status of the projects that's so on, and then recommendations

878
01:29:42,860 --> 01:29:48,560
of what to do with them, and that's when we talk about what goes forward right away, what

879
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:53,040
goes in two years, what goes in three and so on. So, you're absolutely right. We need to

880
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:56,780
do that, and we're doing that. It's something that's what is on the agenda.

881
01:29:58,040 --> 01:29:58,580
Thank you, Director.

882
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:09,080
You have the last word, but right now we have a majority in support of this. So please make your comments brief as possible at this point.

883
01:30:10,180 --> 01:30:20,220
Thank you chair. I think a missing piece here. So having this legal knowledge about commercial loans means that I actually read the whole packet. I read all the agreements.

884
01:30:20,220 --> 01:30:32,940
And I'm close to certain that I read that we are legally required only to apply for loans for projects that we agree we are going to do.

885
01:30:34,220 --> 01:30:44,360
We cannot apply for a loan for a project that we have not agreed that we have not agreed we're going to do that would violate our agreement out of the gate.

886
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:53,740
So all of us, well, right now you know my opinion, I'm opposed to the damn, but everyone else has said they still need to think about it.

887
01:30:54,380 --> 01:30:58,240
We just publicly knowledge that we're in violation of these terms.

888
01:30:58,420 --> 01:31:06,020
So I want to state for the record because I'm a member of the bar that I do not want to violate the terms of this agreement out of the gate.

889
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:12,940
And let me tell you why it makes sense that we need to be committed to a project before applying for a loan about it.

890
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:16,040
I know it seems nice to keep our options open.

891
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:23,440
But the EPA, who would be the funder of this loan, is a greatly under-resourced organization.

892
01:31:24,340 --> 01:31:31,440
If every single water district and other public entity just applied for loans to keep their options open,

893
01:31:31,440 --> 01:31:39,180
The EPA would be spending all of their time at a huge taxpayer expense, reviewing loans

894
01:31:39,180 --> 01:31:43,640
for to let public agencies keep their options open.

895
01:31:44,300 --> 01:31:51,920
I think we are legally prohibited from applying for this loan, given that the board is not in agreement yet,

896
01:31:52,180 --> 01:31:57,740
if ever, that we're going to do this, and that troubles me, and that's new information.

897
01:31:57,740 --> 01:32:04,240
Additionally, I totally get that loans are how we funded everything in the past, but thanks

898
01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:11,060
to President Biden, who signed into, you know, signed into law, the very recent inflation

899
01:32:11,060 --> 01:32:18,580
reduction act, and thanks to our Governor Gavin Newsom, who on August 10 announced his water

900
01:32:18,580 --> 01:32:26,600
policy, what we have is we have the promise of both federal and state funds in the form

901
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:33,520
grants. Now that's because our grants are gifts of money that don't cost any interest. So while

902
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:43,260
a $2.5 billion loan may over all cost our community $7.5 or $8 billion. A $2.5 billion

903
01:32:43,260 --> 01:32:50,860
grant cost the community nothing. So we're talking about an $8 billion next to difference between

904
01:32:50,860 --> 01:32:57,420
grants and alone for the same amount of money. I think if we want to keep our options open,

905
01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:04,200
we need to quickly urgently look into what projects grants are available for. I can promise you

906
01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:09,440
grants are not available for dams because grants are only available for sustainable projects

907
01:33:09,440 --> 01:33:16,580
and dams are known in a grid upon universally to be anti-sustainable, not just non-sustainable,

908
01:33:16,580 --> 01:33:25,840
But harmful, dams will never receive grants, but recycling and water treatment and so many other things on a list will.

909
01:33:26,580 --> 01:33:44,200
So here we are asked to whether we should actually agree to apply for a loan to receive funding, you know, a loan that based on a project that we are not in agreement yet that we want to do, which in my interpretation puts us into breach.

910
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:51,620
In the context of a loan application that I believe is in breach, because it lacks the true assessment of our risk.

911
01:33:53,200 --> 01:34:01,200
And in order to obtain a project that will never, grants will never be available for, and that will cost our taxpayers even at today's rates,

912
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:07,080
three times the amount, and actually what's the difference between zero and eight billion,

913
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:10,540
and monumentally more than a project that we can do for free.

914
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:16,120
I think it's unethical for us to approve this now.

915
01:34:16,480 --> 01:34:18,160
I'm really putting that out there.

916
01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:21,020
And I think it's lawyers disagree.

917
01:34:22,140 --> 01:34:25,280
I believe our inter-to-consult said this is fine.

918
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:29,600
I have different, in my background with commercial loans,

919
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:33,640
and my dad, the bankruptcy judge, I believe differently.

920
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:41,760
And I believe that if there's even a risk that will be called that this application could be considered in

921
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:45,720
Breach because we publicly acknowledge we haven't yet approved this.

922
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:47,480
Do we really want another scandal?

923
01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:49,040
I think we need to wait.

924
01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:51,280
And obviously I'm going to vote no on this.

925
01:34:51,300 --> 01:34:52,700
I would vote an alternate.

926
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:55,500
Can I make an alternate motion?

927
01:34:55,500 --> 01:34:59,980
And I mean, I'm moved that we found a group.

928
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:09,360
A phone application that does not include Pachaco, but that includes the other projects. And that we consider

929
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:14,520
the Pachaco loan at a later date. Does anyone second that?

930
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:18,180
Okay, there are no fails for that.

931
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:27,520
So, would you finish with your comment? Thank you. Thank you. Okay. So, Darren, would you respond to

932
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:31,040
comments that were made in reference to the questions that were asked?

933
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:41,880
I can respond to the legal questions, but in terms of the proposal to approve Anderson

934
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:47,860
and other projects, there's a whole process that it takes to go through with the EPA to propose

935
01:35:47,860 --> 01:35:53,360
a project for which the EPA will loan us money. And so if we want to propose other projects,

936
01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:59,300
there's a process that we would have to submit a letter of interest. It takes months to prepare

937
01:35:59,300 --> 01:35:59,620
that.

938
01:36:03,350 --> 01:36:07,890
Okay, thank you very much, Director. Thank you for your comment. So we have a motion on the

939
01:36:07,890 --> 01:36:11,590
floor and I'm going to call for the vote. It's a roll call vote.

940
01:36:18,940 --> 01:36:20,220
Well, there's okay. We have

941
01:36:20,220 --> 01:36:25,740
a motion and we have a substitute motion and we have a first in a second. So I'm going to take

942
01:36:25,740 --> 01:36:28,780
direction from the board. Where do you want to go from here board?

943
01:36:31,270 --> 01:36:32,570
Okay, then the subsequent motion

944
01:36:32,570 --> 01:36:33,570
will commence.

945
01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:41,400
So I'm going to take a roll call on the second motion. Director Bell,

946
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:43,920
Director Eisenberg,

947
01:36:46,130 --> 01:36:47,090
Director Estimera?

948
01:36:47,110 --> 01:36:47,730
No.

949
01:36:48,070 --> 01:36:48,810
Director Shua?

950
01:36:49,370 --> 01:36:49,490
No.

951
01:36:50,050 --> 01:36:50,610
Director Keegan?

952
01:36:51,450 --> 01:36:52,110
Director Santos?

953
01:36:53,450 --> 01:36:54,050
Chair Varrell?

954
01:36:54,150 --> 01:36:54,410
No.

955
01:36:54,710 --> 01:36:55,750
Motion fails?

956
01:36:59,090 --> 01:37:00,490
Okay, now the motion on the original?

957
01:37:00,710 --> 01:37:01,070
Okay.

958
01:37:01,350 --> 01:37:06,970
Now I will take a roll call on the original motion which is to adopt staff's recommendations

959
01:37:07,230 --> 01:37:07,790
A and B.

960
01:37:08,610 --> 01:37:09,070
Director Bell?

961
01:37:10,650 --> 01:37:11,330
Director Eisenberg?

962
01:37:11,550 --> 01:37:11,890
No.

963
01:37:12,490 --> 01:37:13,450
Director Estimera?

964
01:37:13,750 --> 01:37:14,090
All right.

965
01:37:14,090 --> 01:37:17,590
Dr. Shua? Yes. Dr. Keegan? Yes.

966
01:37:18,050 --> 01:37:18,950
Director Santos.

967
01:37:19,950 --> 01:37:22,170
Chair Verella? Yes. Motion passes.

968
01:37:22,370 --> 01:37:25,030
That motion passes. Thank you, Board.

969
01:37:25,870 --> 01:37:26,550
Good discussion.

970
01:37:27,710 --> 01:37:31,130
We're going to move on to the agenda item 2.9.

971
01:37:31,750 --> 01:37:35,230
This is a monthly drought emergency response in water supply update.

972
01:37:36,030 --> 01:37:37,830
And this is an information item only.

973
01:37:38,810 --> 01:37:39,330
Aaron Baker.

974
01:37:41,350 --> 01:37:41,990
Thank you, Chair Verella.

975
01:37:41,990 --> 01:37:46,410
Chief, in honor of board members, Mayor Baker, Chief Operating Officer of the Water

976
01:37:46,410 --> 01:37:50,270
Utility and Privacy. I'd like to introduce Assistant Officer Kirsten Strew to give a

977
01:37:50,270 --> 01:37:52,010
presentation if it pleases the board.

978
01:37:54,660 --> 01:37:55,960
Yeah, then. All right, Kirsten.

979
01:37:56,200 --> 01:38:00,560
Good afternoon. I'll be filling in today to get you out of the draft yet.

980
01:38:01,780 --> 01:38:07,160
Well, that's what I'll talk about. So, our recent rains, including this weekend rain,

981
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:13,400
have been helpful and storage in our reservoirs increased from 15% to 19% over the last week.

982
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:19,300
The snowpack in the Sierra has been improving and is currently above average for this time of year.

983
01:38:20,120 --> 01:38:26,460
But according to the US drought monitor, our county currently remains in severe drought with the eastern edge in extreme drought.

984
01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:28,460
And the same thing happened last year.

985
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:33,080
We had some rains early in the wet season and then it was dry.

986
01:38:33,740 --> 01:38:35,680
And so we're preparing for another dry year.

987
01:38:35,940 --> 01:38:42,940
We would need above average local rainfall during the wet season and significant snowpack in the Sierra's to help us move out of drought.

988
01:38:45,510 --> 01:39:08,210
In October, our county was able to exceed valley waters conservation target with a savings of 16% compared to October 2019 and we very much appreciate our community's efforts to respond to the call and all our outreach efforts conservation programs and enforcement of water use restrictions have helped us achieve these savings and as you can see we've really shaped of the summer peak.

989
01:39:10,540 --> 01:39:15,960
We generally achieve higher savings than our state in most months in October. Our county

990
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:22,340
continue to exceed our governance call by reducing 15% compared to 20 terrain. We actually

991
01:39:22,340 --> 01:39:30,100
got to 17% and we are also well above the state's cumulative savings at 13%.

992
01:39:32,860 --> 01:39:33,440
On December

993
01:39:33,440 --> 01:39:40,380
1, DWR announced we received an initial allocation for 2023 from the state water project of 5%.

994
01:39:40,380 --> 01:39:42,660
They also announced they intend to work with agencies.

995
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:46,580
We're requesting human health and safety supplies to confirm their allocation.

996
01:39:47,440 --> 01:39:51,400
And we have submitted an initial health and safety request and will work with DWR

997
01:39:51,400 --> 01:39:54,180
to refine the request as the winter unfolds.

998
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:05,160
While you want to reduce groundwater recharge, starting in November due to a pipeline rehab project expected

999
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:10,860
to last three months, this will not impact our annual total recharge, which is projected to be

1000
01:40:10,860 --> 01:40:16,340
closed to normal by the end of this year. Groundwater levels have stabilized in much of the county.

1001
01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:21,560
They are increasing in many areas due to recharge and water conservation by the community, but

1002
01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:25,700
as the drug continues achieving the board's call is still very important.

1003
01:40:29,070 --> 01:40:29,930
We are seeing landscape

1004
01:40:29,930 --> 01:40:34,830
The rewrite participation waterways reports decreasing as we had into winter, which we would expect,

1005
01:40:35,790 --> 01:40:39,210
but participation is still very high compared to previous years.

1006
01:40:43,660 --> 01:40:48,660
We've had over 1,800 waterways complaints since our program was launched in June.

1007
01:40:49,180 --> 01:40:53,780
We've received seven repeat complaints showing that most waterways is addressed at the first

1008
01:40:53,780 --> 01:40:54,520
complaint.

1009
01:40:55,920 --> 01:41:00,720
And our last water conservation demand management committee, we were asked where most of our waterways

1010
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:05,760
complaints are coming from and we looked into this and single family homes are the majority

1011
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:06,860
of cases.

1012
01:41:09,580 --> 01:41:13,620
Oh, yes to saving water campaign continues on TV, radio, print, and online.

1013
01:41:14,580 --> 01:41:19,040
And we are continuing our conservation campaigns during the winter months, unlike previous

1014
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:23,780
years where we typically don't continue conservation campaigns in the winter, staff launched

1015
01:41:23,780 --> 01:41:29,140
a winter water conservation campaign promoting our animation series, which includes animations

1016
01:41:29,140 --> 01:41:33,960
on gray water, the landscape, rebate, and dialing back on irrigation during winter months.

1017
01:41:34,700 --> 01:41:39,180
In the same S2 saving water public service announcements involving local professional sports

1018
01:41:39,180 --> 01:41:43,400
teams who are published on valley waters, social media channels, and with that, I'm

1019
01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:44,440
open for any questions.

1020
01:41:45,580 --> 01:41:50,160
Thank you very much, Kristen, and we have any public comment on this.

1021
01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:53,200
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I have no public comment at this time.

1022
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:59,200
Okay, board members, I have a comment from the recreation book.

1023
01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:02,200
Is that correct? You're rather right.

1024
01:42:02,940 --> 01:42:03,100
Okay.

1025
01:42:04,020 --> 01:42:06,280
First, thank you so much for doing this work.

1026
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:08,760
It's, you know, I recognize it takes a while.

1027
01:42:09,020 --> 01:42:13,700
Can you show that that slide again that had the bar graphs?

1028
01:42:16,580 --> 01:42:19,800
It was, you know, with the two, oh, I'm sorry, not a bar graph.

1029
01:42:19,980 --> 01:42:21,200
A line graph, my dad.

1030
01:42:21,820 --> 01:42:22,080
Okay.

1031
01:42:24,020 --> 01:42:25,240
I'm trying to get there.

1032
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:26,200
Okay.

1033
01:42:26,860 --> 01:42:27,620
We're good.

1034
01:42:27,820 --> 01:42:28,220
That one?

1035
01:42:28,340 --> 01:42:29,080
That one.

1036
01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:30,400
Okay.

1037
01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:38,320
So I'm a bit confused because so this is 19, 2019 and this is 2022.

1038
01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:43,460
So this is showing just to make sure I understand the red is showing that.

1039
01:42:43,500 --> 01:42:47,580
We are using that sweater now than we were before.

1040
01:42:48,020 --> 01:42:52,660
So I remember watching a board meeting about this and this question was asked and I guess

1041
01:42:52,660 --> 01:43:10,660
really, there's been, I think it's hard to answer, but I just want to put on the record that I think we need to answer this, like urgently, is I asked the question, how much of this change do we know is due to conservation versus how much of this change might be due to, you know,

1042
01:43:10,660 --> 01:43:16,040
Um, engine people, nothing able to pay the water bills, how much of this change might be

1043
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:21,960
due to our growing rates of, you know, growing unhoused population, how much of this change

1044
01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:27,240
might be due to, um, uh, businesses leaving the area, et cetera.

1045
01:43:27,500 --> 01:43:33,160
Like we, we don't really know what's causing the reduction in water use.

1046
01:43:33,420 --> 01:43:37,680
I was, what it was told, I was told last time or what the board and I assume that's the same

1047
01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:38,160
now.

1048
01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:46,400
So I guess I just want to put it out there that since I guess it's not in our retailer agreements that we need to do everything we can

1049
01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:51,120
to really understand what is led to this reduction.

1050
01:43:52,500 --> 01:44:04,260
And maybe it's just, maybe it is conservation as an indoor outdoor so that we can really be more focused in our policies to address the gaps.

1051
01:44:04,260 --> 01:44:07,500
So, and if I, if I said something wrong, please correct that.

1052
01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:08,540
Thank you.

1053
01:44:09,700 --> 01:44:11,120
Thank you, Director of Summer.

1054
01:44:11,580 --> 01:44:12,000
Excuse me.

1055
01:44:12,140 --> 01:44:12,540
Director Keegan.

1056
01:44:14,790 --> 01:44:15,570
Thank you.

1057
01:44:15,590 --> 01:44:20,710
I should have asked this question at the water conservation and demand management, but I didn't

1058
01:44:20,710 --> 01:44:21,490
and I apologize.

1059
01:44:23,410 --> 01:44:32,870
You know, are we still aggressively preaching the water conservation philosophy as part of our

1060
01:44:32,870 --> 01:44:33,970
education program?

1061
01:44:33,970 --> 01:44:39,690
I know in the past, the neighborhood children were like really excited about saving water and actually

1062
01:44:39,690 --> 01:44:41,710
were lecturing their parents on that.

1063
01:44:42,150 --> 01:44:47,210
So I just think it would be, I'm seeing people nodding so clearly we are doing that.

1064
01:44:47,710 --> 01:44:54,190
So maybe if we could just give a brief, a brief little blip about what we're doing and results

1065
01:44:54,190 --> 01:44:54,690
for seeing.

1066
01:44:54,690 --> 01:44:55,270
Miss Gibson.

1067
01:44:55,990 --> 01:44:56,550
You'd like to respond.

1068
01:44:57,290 --> 01:44:57,870
I think that's a blip.

1069
01:44:57,870 --> 01:44:58,510
Okay, please.

1070
01:44:59,030 --> 01:44:59,970
Yeah, so it's actually-

1071
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:08,620
In the drought report, as a specific header to have our water conservation education. And in November, we supported 66

1072
01:45:08,620 --> 01:45:16,900
educators and 1,200 for students during 23 school presentations and three tours. We've also worked with the Youth Commission.

1073
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:29,220
And yeah, so we do detail our efforts related to education in the drought report. And if you'd like to see it highlighted more in the presentation, we can do that.

1074
01:45:30,820 --> 01:45:41,980
That's fine, I just think we should take some credit for the fact that we're doing good work in that area and certainly children are amazing ambassadors for water conservation.

1075
01:45:42,260 --> 01:45:44,340
I mean, it's really exciting to see that.

1076
01:45:44,480 --> 01:45:45,520
So thank you.

1077
01:45:46,700 --> 01:45:47,340
Director Smare.

1078
01:45:48,500 --> 01:45:50,850
Thank you.

1079
01:45:50,850 --> 01:45:51,210
Thank you.

1080
01:45:55,410 --> 01:46:00,550
I want to respond to Director Eisenberg's question because,

1081
01:46:00,550 --> 01:46:10,790
I know we can't get these kind of data from the from probably from our retailers and I but I'm just as interested she is

1082
01:46:11,710 --> 01:46:19,570
When when we have our surveys, maybe we could add that as questions so when when's the next time we're going to have a we're going to do a survey

1083
01:46:20,730 --> 01:46:22,210
Hey Firter Aaron

1084
01:46:27,330 --> 01:46:28,370
Rachel

1085
01:46:29,610 --> 01:46:30,130
Thanks

1086
01:46:30,130 --> 01:46:31,130
Sorry

1087
01:46:34,430 --> 01:46:39,950
through the chair director's fire. Yes, we do, as you mentioned, conduct polling on a

1088
01:46:39,950 --> 01:46:42,990
pretty frequent basis to make sure that the messages that we're putting out in the community

1089
01:46:42,990 --> 01:46:47,370
resonate with the people that we serve. So we're looking at doing the next one I think in

1090
01:46:47,370 --> 01:46:52,270
another month-ish we want to try to get through a bulk of the rain of the winter rainy season first

1091
01:46:52,270 --> 01:46:56,610
because obviously people are thinking about rain right now and we want to make sure that we're

1092
01:46:56,610 --> 01:46:58,030
just in our messaging accordingly.

1093
01:46:58,450 --> 01:47:01,190
So Kirsten did mention that we have adjusted that already

1094
01:47:01,190 --> 01:47:03,770
in terms of the winner toolkit that's gone out

1095
01:47:03,770 --> 01:47:05,630
and that we're sharing with all of our retailers and partners.

1096
01:47:06,190 --> 01:47:09,470
And we'll be sure to include that additional question

1097
01:47:09,470 --> 01:47:10,070
in the next one.

1098
01:47:10,570 --> 01:47:13,030
The best way we can get it, because we can't do it through.

1099
01:47:13,070 --> 01:47:14,770
I don't think we could do it through a retailers

1100
01:47:14,770 --> 01:47:16,290
because they're there.

1101
01:47:17,130 --> 01:47:19,870
Their data isn't really good enough, but if we ask people

1102
01:47:19,870 --> 01:47:22,710
directly, we can find out a little bit better.

1103
01:47:22,950 --> 01:47:25,010
I think because we can include it on our survey,

1104
01:47:25,830 --> 01:47:27,470
We can start getting some answers.

1105
01:47:28,270 --> 01:47:28,310
Great.

1106
01:47:30,010 --> 01:47:30,430
Okay.

1107
01:47:31,230 --> 01:47:32,490
There was information only.

1108
01:47:32,850 --> 01:47:33,790
Anybody else to speak?

1109
01:47:33,970 --> 01:47:34,490
We have no public.

1110
01:47:35,190 --> 01:47:35,730
We have access.

1111
01:47:37,250 --> 01:47:37,950
Excuse me.

1112
01:47:38,750 --> 01:47:39,030
Yes.

1113
01:47:39,070 --> 01:47:39,770
Thank you, Mr. Sherman.

1114
01:47:39,890 --> 01:47:42,290
I take just a brief moment to kind of um,

1115
01:47:42,590 --> 01:47:47,490
so I've heard here about how we do in the water supply and the drought and so on.

1116
01:47:47,770 --> 01:47:52,010
And I want to take the time because Chief Baker and his staff is doing an extraordinary job.

1117
01:47:52,830 --> 01:47:57,270
It's called the Bulletin, the office magazine of Santa Clara County Medical Association.

1118
01:47:58,050 --> 01:47:59,210
It's going to be a raw work and that's...

1119
01:47:59,550 --> 01:48:04,150
I was just taken back because it talks about climate change, drought, and that less is a flint.

1120
01:48:04,770 --> 01:48:10,250
All kinds of articles and quotes here about Santa Clara Valley Water District, and then the water supply and recycling.

1121
01:48:10,790 --> 01:48:13,750
But I want to take the time to make sure you and everyone else knows,

1122
01:48:14,070 --> 01:48:20,050
mention some of the names of Kristen Strove, Dr. Samantha Green, Maddie Senake,

1123
01:48:20,050 --> 01:48:25,110
There's so many others that contributed to this, and I read this stuff, and I was so proud

1124
01:48:25,110 --> 01:48:28,690
because here it is, and I'm medical association, talking about what we're doing.

1125
01:48:29,170 --> 01:48:32,790
So, to answer all the questions, and I'm on the last statement, committee, with nice

1126
01:48:32,790 --> 01:48:36,010
you, director, and our last committee is Paramah.

1127
01:48:37,030 --> 01:48:38,550
Education is coming continually.

1128
01:48:39,190 --> 01:48:39,810
We go to schools.

1129
01:48:39,910 --> 01:48:40,750
We do everything.

1130
01:48:41,690 --> 01:48:43,350
I've just, last night, the virus activity.

1131
01:48:43,730 --> 01:48:45,410
Again, talking about the citizen training.

1132
01:48:45,410 --> 01:48:49,070
but we're sure it's a beer drop and people are, quote, thirsty for information.

1133
01:48:49,650 --> 01:48:52,010
You're taking the opportunity for the last statement.

1134
01:48:52,270 --> 01:48:55,290
They're doing it all. So we are really doing well and we've got to continue.

1135
01:48:56,290 --> 01:49:01,370
This rain is, you know, temporary. And we know that. So to all our staff,

1136
01:49:01,630 --> 01:49:03,770
Chief Baker, you're proof. Thank you. Thank you, Chair.

1137
01:49:04,470 --> 01:49:14,190
Yeah. Okay. Moving forward. We're next on the consent calendar item 3.1 through 3.6.

1138
01:49:14,190 --> 01:49:20,790
This is a roll call. I need a motion in a second. I have a motion in a second. This is a roll call any board

1139
01:49:21,710 --> 01:49:23,710
Leave this at this point

1140
01:49:23,710 --> 01:49:30,510
Okay, and no public comments. I have no public comment. Okay, take the vote, please. All right

1141
01:49:30,510 --> 01:49:31,430
Director Val

1142
01:49:33,550 --> 01:49:34,510
Director Eisenberg.

1143
01:49:37,460 --> 01:49:44,340
Okay. I'll circle back. Director Estimara. All right. Director Shua. Yes, Director Keegan. Yeah, Director Santos

1144
01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:46,200
Chevrolet.

1145
01:49:47,060 --> 01:49:47,260
All right.

1146
01:49:47,340 --> 01:49:48,460
Director Eisenberg, do you need?

1147
01:50:00,910 --> 01:50:13,750
What are we discussing? Thank you. Okay, so we have a unanimous seat. Yeah, I miss that vote on that. Thank you. Thank you board members appreciate that. So moving

1148
01:50:15,960 --> 01:50:29,280
on, we're going into Board of Directors 4.1, response to Santa Clara County civil grand jury October 7, 2022 final report, recommendation action.

1149
01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:31,840
So, we have Tina Yoke.

1150
01:50:35,470 --> 01:50:35,950
Good afternoon, Tina.

1151
01:50:36,330 --> 01:50:37,810
Good afternoon, Chair.

1152
01:50:38,130 --> 01:50:39,890
Members of the Board, Tina Yoke.

1153
01:50:40,150 --> 01:50:42,550
Chief Operating Officer for Administrative Services.

1154
01:50:43,290 --> 01:50:46,330
Just very briefly with your meeting packet.

1155
01:50:46,870 --> 01:50:51,250
There is staff's recommendation option one.

1156
01:50:51,770 --> 01:50:57,270
And then option one was in response to the Santa Clara County

1157
01:50:57,270 --> 01:51:05,210
grand jury letter and report that our agency received on October the 10th, that grand jury

1158
01:51:05,210 --> 01:51:13,590
letter and report had findings one, which with three recommendations for which our agency

1159
01:51:13,590 --> 01:51:20,930
is required to provide a response, no later than January 5th, our response has four options,

1160
01:51:20,930 --> 01:51:25,370
either indicate that the recommendations were implemented.

1161
01:51:26,670 --> 01:51:29,870
Second, is the recommendations that has not been implemented.

1162
01:51:30,050 --> 01:51:31,190
And we provide a timeline.

1163
01:51:32,230 --> 01:51:34,950
Third, was that analysis is pending.

1164
01:51:35,850 --> 01:51:39,830
And lastly, four options is the recommendation will not be implemented.

1165
01:51:41,270 --> 01:51:47,370
Because our agency believes that those recommendations are not warranted.

1166
01:51:47,370 --> 01:52:16,730
So, since I put forth with staff the original option one recommendation, there's a handout in front of the board today, which is a secondary option for the board's consideration, that second option is a recommendation to provide a response that indicates that staff would like to take this letter and the report to our BPPC.

1167
01:52:16,730 --> 01:52:23,430
no later than March 31st and then of course proceed from there.

1168
01:52:23,710 --> 01:52:29,690
And so I'd like to stand for questions on either of the two options or some other direction

1169
01:52:29,690 --> 01:52:31,590
at the board of the light.

1170
01:52:31,970 --> 01:52:32,630
Thank you.

1171
01:52:32,690 --> 01:52:33,570
The direction.

1172
01:52:34,450 --> 01:52:34,990
I have a motion.

1173
01:52:36,150 --> 01:52:37,490
Do you have a second on that?

1174
01:52:40,310 --> 01:52:40,350
Okay.

1175
01:52:41,410 --> 01:52:41,670
Okay.

1176
01:52:41,870 --> 01:52:42,030
Hang on.

1177
01:52:42,250 --> 01:52:42,810
Hang on.

1178
01:52:43,090 --> 01:52:43,610
Let's see your calendar.

1179
01:52:43,690 --> 01:52:44,810
Do you have a comment on this?

1180
01:52:47,630 --> 01:52:53,130
No, I just would be looking from in the board, which option you'd like for C, right?

1181
01:52:53,350 --> 01:52:54,350
I'm hopefully everyone's happy.

1182
01:52:54,590 --> 01:52:55,990
We'll have to see the point of option, too.

1183
01:52:56,490 --> 01:52:57,670
Okay, Director Schweyer.

1184
01:53:01,230 --> 01:53:01,890
Thank you, Chair.

1185
01:53:02,810 --> 01:53:07,390
I would support moving forward with option two.

1186
01:53:07,630 --> 01:53:12,570
I'm hoping that my colleague can support that.

1187
01:53:13,050 --> 01:53:18,310
I really believe this response is a board business.

1188
01:53:18,310 --> 01:53:28,610
I don't feel this is a staff business, so I think the board needs to talk about it either going through a committee or not going through a committee.

1189
01:53:29,650 --> 01:53:33,230
Either way it's fine with me, but I just feel like it's a board business.

1190
01:53:33,550 --> 01:53:39,470
The board needs to talk about it and then have an end thereafter to prepare the response.

1191
01:53:39,470 --> 01:53:42,110
So that will be my

1192
01:53:42,110 --> 01:53:43,230
I guess

1193
01:53:44,090 --> 01:53:46,330
Support for the option too. Okay.

1194
01:53:47,830 --> 01:53:49,210
Okay. Okay. I have a motion.

1195
01:53:49,510 --> 01:53:51,510
Did you make a motion on that?

1196
01:53:53,850 --> 01:53:55,470
She did not formally make a motion on that.

1197
01:53:55,490 --> 01:53:57,690
Should I make a motion on that?

1198
01:53:57,770 --> 01:53:58,010
I have a motion.

1199
01:53:58,350 --> 01:54:00,110
Director Santos, but

1200
01:54:00,110 --> 01:54:01,830
Director Santos, did you want to

1201
01:54:02,970 --> 01:54:04,790
Follow your motion on that?

1202
01:54:05,050 --> 01:54:06,950
Support about item two?

1203
01:54:07,670 --> 01:54:09,070
Okay. So I have motion in a second.

1204
01:54:10,790 --> 01:54:13,110
So it's a motion for option two.

1205
01:54:13,390 --> 01:54:14,110
Option two.

1206
01:54:14,130 --> 01:54:14,570
Directors.

1207
01:54:14,990 --> 01:54:15,090
Directors.

1208
01:54:16,790 --> 01:54:18,750
Well, it's right now we're just going to hear that.

1209
01:54:18,890 --> 01:54:20,150
We're just acknowledging the motion.

1210
01:54:21,190 --> 01:54:23,810
Okay, so Santos and Eisenberg.

1211
01:54:23,850 --> 01:54:24,910
Option two.

1212
01:54:26,750 --> 01:54:26,970
Okay.

1213
01:54:27,670 --> 01:54:32,270
So do we have any board members that have any comments on that?

1214
01:54:32,510 --> 01:54:33,390
Director of Stamara?

1215
01:54:34,350 --> 01:54:34,970
Right, I got you.

1216
01:54:35,350 --> 01:54:38,050
Yeah, I just quickly wanted to say that.

1217
01:54:38,050 --> 01:54:45,550
Yeah, I think it's appropriate for us to have take a little time to go through the report and have a discussion and

1218
01:54:46,130 --> 01:54:55,110
Have the ability of the new members to engage and we've got three three months that was adequate and you know, we have a committee so that it's so we could take advantage

1219
01:54:55,110 --> 01:54:59,970
I think of the committee to to be the forum and then we can all participate in that discussion

1220
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:03,680
So, okay. Director Christopher?

1221
01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:17,460
Thanks. I think, you know, I really strongly agree with, you know, my colleagues in their recommendation for delay, and I just want to kind of say why.

1222
01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:26,620
I think it's so important that we are able to work together cohesively, you know, and this is such a charge to issue.

1223
01:55:26,620 --> 01:55:56,600
And, you know, I'm one of the newcomers, so I wasn't there during this, you know, and I feel like, you know, any discussion of this issue right now, maybe would put some of us in a position where maybe we would speak negatively about each other, and I hate that idea of, you know, really even having that conversation right now, because it's, I think it's so important that we really work together cohesively, you know, we may disagree.

1224
01:55:57,420 --> 01:56:05,380
But as I said in my earlier talk, I believe we really share mutual goals, and I really

1225
01:56:05,380 --> 01:56:12,520
want us to focus on what we agree with more, and I think it's really complicated whether

1226
01:56:12,520 --> 01:56:21,140
we want to say that our current colleagues maybe made a mistake or maybe that's what the board

1227
01:56:21,140 --> 01:56:28,720
would come to but I don't want to do that right now. I really trust my colleagues and I really want

1228
01:56:28,720 --> 01:56:33,500
to show them I really want to give everyone the benefit of the doubt and move together cohesively.

1229
01:56:34,040 --> 01:56:39,340
So that's why I wanted to lay. So thank you. Thank you, Director. So we have a motion in a second.

1230
01:56:41,020 --> 01:56:42,420
And do I have to bail?

1231
01:56:46,420 --> 01:56:49,560
The one I read this, the one issue that came to mind for me was having

1232
01:56:49,560 --> 01:56:53,120
I'm going to remember the County Board of Supervisors for 12 years.

1233
01:56:54,520 --> 01:56:58,260
The County Council is our lawyer as a County Supervisor.

1234
01:56:58,500 --> 01:57:03,320
They're not the lawyers of the Water District Board of Directors, and I can see,

1235
01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:06,560
or I feel

1236
01:57:06,560 --> 01:57:16,930
that there's a conflict of interest somewhat between the County Council office, you know,

1237
01:57:16,930 --> 01:57:28,090
the county board of supervisors lawyer and this entity. So I'm a little, I think it's kind of a

1238
01:57:28,090 --> 01:57:28,650
conflict.

1239
01:57:31,770 --> 01:57:39,630
And discussing how we do things better is fine, I think that's fine, but I think as, I don't

1240
01:57:39,630 --> 01:57:46,190
want somebody else's lawyer doing things to recommend to me when I have my own lawyer

1241
01:57:46,190 --> 01:57:53,450
to do it. And I prefer to have my own lawyer to do it quite frankly. So that's, I just wanted

1242
01:57:53,450 --> 01:57:59,390
to point that out. This conflict. If the Board of Supervisors doesn't like what we submit

1243
01:57:59,950 --> 01:58:08,850
and the county council is writing a opinion for us, that's to me. I don't know. I mean,

1244
01:58:08,850 --> 01:58:15,350
it looks like a conflict to me. I mean, thank you. So we have a motion in a second. So

1245
01:58:15,350 --> 01:58:21,390
The clerk of the board read, paid the motion, and what we're supporting on the vote.

1246
01:58:22,050 --> 01:58:22,250
Thank you.

1247
01:58:22,330 --> 01:58:23,330
This is not a roll call.

1248
01:58:23,570 --> 01:58:23,850
Yes.

1249
01:58:23,850 --> 01:58:24,550
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

1250
01:58:24,790 --> 01:58:30,570
So I have a motion by Director Santos, the second by Director Shua, to go with option 2 letter,

1251
01:58:30,990 --> 01:58:33,710
which is a distributed as a handout 4.18.

1252
01:58:34,930 --> 01:58:37,010
The motion second was on the right direction for the reaction.

1253
01:58:39,050 --> 01:58:41,210
The right direction for the second motion.

1254
01:58:41,730 --> 01:58:42,430
I will correct that.

1255
01:58:42,510 --> 01:58:42,750
Okay.

1256
01:58:42,750 --> 01:58:49,010
So, we'll hear that. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed? That motion passes.

1257
01:58:52,690 --> 01:58:57,650
Okay, we're moving on to item 4.2. Discuss the vacancy on the Santa Clara Valley War,

1258
01:58:57,770 --> 01:59:04,650
the Water District Public Facilities Financing Corp, Board Directors and provide direction on the process to fill the vacancy.

1259
01:59:05,210 --> 01:59:07,990
The recommendation as I just mentioned, Michelle King.

1260
01:59:08,690 --> 01:59:10,990
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm talking to the board.

1261
01:59:10,990 --> 01:59:17,990
So I'm bringing this item back before the board today to get some additional input on filling

1262
01:59:17,990 --> 01:59:22,890
the vacancy for the Public Facilities Financing Corporation back in August the board authorized

1263
01:59:22,890 --> 01:59:29,890
me to contact prior PF, I'm going to abbreviate Public Facilities Financing Corporation as the

1264
01:59:29,890 --> 01:59:31,650
PFC, it's easier to say.

1265
01:59:32,050 --> 01:59:37,650
To do outreach to the prior applicants and to advertise vacancies on the local community papers,

1266
01:59:37,650 --> 01:59:45,410
perform outreach to our neighborhood associations and to our water ambassadors and that outreach was all performed

1267
01:59:45,410 --> 01:59:53,270
with a deadline of any applicants to submit letters of interest by October 31st of this year.

1268
01:59:54,110 --> 01:59:59,970
And that deadline approached and passed I received one application which I included in your

1269
02:00:00,700 --> 02:00:11,000
So, at this time, I stand up for the board to give me some additional input. If you want to, what options you have, we could move forward and schedule a time to interview the one applicant.

1270
02:00:11,740 --> 02:00:17,800
I can do some additional outreach. If that's what the board prefers or anything else that the board has suggested at this time.

1271
02:00:18,340 --> 02:00:19,200
Okay, board.

1272
02:00:19,960 --> 02:00:24,120
For discussion, recommendation, the request and bird.

1273
02:00:28,020 --> 02:00:29,660
First, thank you for your efforts with this.

1274
02:00:30,280 --> 02:00:34,720
I know it can be hard to find people to do this complicated and time-consuming work,

1275
02:00:34,840 --> 02:00:36,420
especially when they're doing it as a volunteer.

1276
02:00:37,240 --> 02:00:39,740
So it's not easy. I acknowledge that.

1277
02:00:39,740 --> 02:00:44,400
You know, that said, I believe in competition in the marketplace.

1278
02:00:45,160 --> 02:00:49,300
You know, and I feel like, you know, this is a new board.

1279
02:00:49,300 --> 02:01:02,900
You know, and we don't even know exactly how we're going to be, you know, but we're going to be different in some way and often people choose to participate in these volunteer positions based on with whom they'll be working.

1280
02:01:04,020 --> 02:01:10,840
Additionally, maybe I saw that, again, I barely even read this application and I saw

1281
02:01:10,840 --> 02:01:17,840
I mean no judgment about this person, but I just want to say, I saw the existing members

1282
02:01:17,840 --> 02:01:24,820
have names that, except for with one, whose name as I think Kim, they seem to be identified

1283
02:01:24,820 --> 02:01:31,080
as male, you know, and I'm not sure of their, you know, about their diversity in other

1284
02:01:32,080 --> 02:01:43,060
You know, I think that it's really, really important that we have a diverse and representative committee and as we all know, diversity and representation only come with effort.

1285
02:01:43,540 --> 02:01:45,640
It doesn't just happen, you know, organically.

1286
02:01:45,640 --> 02:01:51,540
And so I would say let's, I think it would be nice if, and I'll volunteer myself of all

1287
02:01:51,540 --> 02:01:57,100
but board members maybe could reach out to our communities, to maybe, you know, to

1288
02:01:57,100 --> 02:02:03,220
underrepresented, underrepresented groups that are in our communities, you know, if we have, you

1289
02:02:03,220 --> 02:02:08,600
know, vulnerable communities, immigrant communities, non-English speaking communities, et cetera.

1290
02:02:09,080 --> 02:02:14,920
This might be, you know, a really nice opportunity to show our commitment to representation

1291
02:02:14,920 --> 02:02:22,000
inclusion, inclusion, plus I really think any committee is better through when it's diverse.

1292
02:02:22,440 --> 02:02:23,420
So thank you.

1293
02:02:24,930 --> 02:02:26,270
Thank you, Director, for that.

1294
02:02:29,010 --> 02:02:30,210
So board.

1295
02:02:31,830 --> 02:02:36,290
So we'll just go back to the board to make that decision that director.

1296
02:02:36,910 --> 02:02:37,930
So that's fine.

1297
02:02:38,030 --> 02:02:39,810
If it's a board's pleasure, I will continue.

1298
02:02:39,950 --> 02:02:44,150
I will do some additional outreach, including providing some information or each director

1299
02:02:44,150 --> 02:02:49,050
can share with their communities, if you be whatever mechanisms we can use, I'm not sure

1300
02:02:49,050 --> 02:02:49,950
if next door allows that.

1301
02:02:49,950 --> 02:02:51,450
Two process were you previously?

1302
02:02:51,570 --> 02:02:56,230
Which we did previously, but we'll bump it up a little, see if I could bump it up a little

1303
02:02:56,230 --> 02:02:56,490
bit.

1304
02:02:57,530 --> 02:02:57,650
Okay.

1305
02:02:58,950 --> 02:03:00,510
I'll create another deadline.

1306
02:03:00,990 --> 02:03:06,550
The PFFC did just meet this year, so I think we have a little bit of time, and we had

1307
02:03:06,550 --> 02:03:12,050
a core each time, so I'll continue to outreach and bring it back to the board after I

1308
02:03:12,050 --> 02:03:14,410
that deadline passes and hopefully we'll get some more apple.

1309
02:03:14,490 --> 02:03:15,170
Okay, great.

1310
02:03:15,430 --> 02:03:16,110
Do I have to kick in?

1311
02:03:18,380 --> 02:03:24,940
I do agree that it's good to have more than one application but I would like to point out

1312
02:03:24,940 --> 02:03:32,380
that I do think highly of the applicant and he is a diverse candidate.

1313
02:03:32,860 --> 02:03:33,580
Okay, great.

1314
02:03:33,920 --> 02:03:35,540
Did we have any public comment on this slide?

1315
02:03:36,860 --> 02:03:37,740
That's for that.

1316
02:03:38,120 --> 02:03:39,640
I do not have any public comment at this.

1317
02:03:39,640 --> 02:03:42,540
Okay, so we're finished with item 4.2.

1318
02:03:42,540 --> 02:03:49,600
Moving on 4.3, consider the October 18th, 2022 Environmental Creek Cleanup Committee recommendation

1319
02:03:49,600 --> 02:03:55,820
to review and propose solutions-based proposals for addressing waterways, challenges posed

1320
02:03:55,820 --> 02:04:03,480
by unhoused in campus. This is an action item, Jennifer. Good afternoon members of the board.

1321
02:04:03,660 --> 02:04:09,480
Good afternoon. As discussed, this is an action item that the Environmental Creek Cleanup Committee

1322
02:04:09,480 --> 02:04:13,940
meeting had asked that we received feedback and direction from the board as a large.

1323
02:04:14,580 --> 02:04:21,500
There is eight proposed encampment-based solutions and I'm happy to discuss any one of them.

1324
02:04:21,840 --> 02:04:26,760
I think it's important to share that if you could so that our new members understand exactly what we're

1325
02:04:26,760 --> 02:04:27,660
referencing here.

1326
02:04:28,520 --> 02:04:34,320
So the first one was to continue discussions with the city of San Jose on the possibility

1327
02:04:34,320 --> 02:04:42,520
of no camping areas or buffers along the waterways. And we've really been concentrating on

1328
02:04:42,520 --> 02:04:47,820
the upcoming COD Creek flood measures project in regards to, you know, I don't know if we'll

1329
02:04:47,820 --> 02:04:54,380
decide to call it a camping band, but to basically ensure that unhoused are not camping in an

1330
02:04:54,380 --> 02:04:59,980
area along COD Creek that they would be subjected to life risk. And so that's ongoing discussion.

1331
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:07,840
And we are currently hoping to see a draft MOA from the City of San Jose, possibly by the end of this week.

1332
02:05:11,100 --> 02:05:17,480
Number two was to pursue strength and renew local partnerships. And this is also something that is ongoing.

1333
02:05:17,860 --> 02:05:31,420
We will be creating two MOA agreements for the upcoming COD Creek flood measures project work, one with the City of San Jose, and that is really to assist us with providing outreach services, the possibility of housing.

1334
02:05:32,780 --> 02:05:38,480
and other actions to move forward with construction of that project.

1335
02:05:38,880 --> 02:05:53,840
Additionally, we will also be pursuing an MLA with the San Jose Police Department, and that's to assist us on what we know is going to need to occur for construction of that project, and that is the abatement of approximately 60 encampments just for Phase 1.

1336
02:05:56,240 --> 02:06:03,160
Number three was expanding cleanup crew staffing and that's something that we want to consider as we move forward.

1337
02:06:03,440 --> 02:06:09,600
However, with this upcoming large project that we need to begin work on for a coyote creek.

1338
02:06:09,960 --> 02:06:13,180
We're a little hesitant to expand the cleanup crew staffing at this point.

1339
02:06:13,180 --> 02:06:18,980
We want to see how much work this upcoming project is over the course of the next few years before we make that decision.

1340
02:06:19,480 --> 02:06:26,220
However, it is one solution that has been proposed and really that's been proposed because our cleanup crews are

1341
02:06:26,220 --> 02:06:32,520
only really able to clean these heavily-in-camped reaches of Creek on it two to three months

1342
02:06:32,520 --> 02:06:37,260
schedule, because there are so many reaches that need to be cleaned. So that discussion

1343
02:06:37,260 --> 02:06:43,560
of maybe, you know, increasing the clean up crew staffing and being able to clean these routine

1344
02:06:43,560 --> 02:06:50,460
areas on a more regular basis is something that we could consider. Number four, increase an

1345
02:06:50,460 --> 02:06:56,640
invest in increased police support. This is something that is currently in progress and that, again,

1346
02:06:56,680 --> 02:07:04,120
is part of the new MOA that will be put together for the San Jose Police Department to assist us

1347
02:07:04,120 --> 02:07:11,740
with the upcoming Hayote Creek flood measures project. And this is really to increase the amount

1348
02:07:11,740 --> 02:07:17,840
that we're able to pay them on our databases to encourage more of their staff to sign up for efforts

1349
02:07:17,840 --> 02:07:25,360
like this and that that currently is in progress and will be completed soon. So that's good news.

1350
02:07:25,500 --> 02:07:30,880
We'll be able to hire more officers to assist us on these and commit cleanup efforts and

1351
02:07:30,880 --> 02:07:32,600
to ensure that our staff are supported.

1352
02:07:34,740 --> 02:07:37,860
Number five and invest in an agreement contract to ensure

1353
02:07:37,860 --> 02:07:45,600
adequate outreach services. We did kind of try this a few ways and ultimately we decided that

1354
02:07:45,600 --> 02:07:49,320
This would be something best served by either the city or the county.

1355
02:07:49,940 --> 02:07:54,440
And so that is something, again, that we're currently working with the city of San Jose

1356
02:07:54,440 --> 02:08:00,700
for the MOI specific to the outreach services that we know will need on the CIAD Creek project.

1357
02:08:02,580 --> 02:08:05,380
Number six, increased use of expanded mental sensing.

1358
02:08:07,160 --> 02:08:11,800
That is something that was recommended by the committee and will most likely be moving forward

1359
02:08:11,800 --> 02:08:14,960
with that and increasing the funding that we have

1360
02:08:14,960 --> 02:08:16,440
for this expanded metal fencing.

1361
02:08:16,440 --> 02:08:19,560
What we're finding is that the typical fencing we use

1362
02:08:19,560 --> 02:08:21,460
in these secured breaches of Creek

1363
02:08:21,460 --> 02:08:25,240
is really easily damaged and it ends up costing a lot more

1364
02:08:25,240 --> 02:08:28,600
to repair the damage than it would to in some areas

1365
02:08:28,600 --> 02:08:31,300
construct this expanded metal fencing.

1366
02:08:36,220 --> 02:08:38,240
Okay, and number seven,

1367
02:08:38,460 --> 02:08:41,340
discuss expansion of a value water cash for trash program.

1368
02:08:41,840 --> 02:08:43,980
This is something that the committee's interested in

1369
02:08:43,980 --> 02:08:48,360
And I will be bringing back to the committee in the January meeting to discuss what that might

1370
02:08:48,360 --> 02:08:49,220
look like.

1371
02:08:49,760 --> 02:08:53,440
And so there will be continued discussions on that.

1372
02:08:53,580 --> 02:08:56,080
But basically, the idea is that we pay the city of Sen.

1373
02:08:56,080 --> 02:08:59,940
I was there right now through a grant fund to do their cash for trash program on Valley

1374
02:08:59,940 --> 02:09:00,900
Water Creek lands.

1375
02:09:01,640 --> 02:09:06,320
And while that is a very good program and effective, there are only visiting the sites once

1376
02:09:06,320 --> 02:09:06,760
a week.

1377
02:09:07,080 --> 02:09:12,200
And so it might be nice to supplement that with a Valley Water program where we can ensure a

1378
02:09:12,200 --> 02:09:17,520
consistent trash pick up on these areas that we know really need it.

1379
02:09:18,000 --> 02:09:20,140
And lastly, number eight was to permit the use of

1380
02:09:20,140 --> 02:09:21,840
Valleywater property for bridge housing.

1381
02:09:22,360 --> 02:09:25,940
This is something that we have proposed to the city, the Cherry

1382
02:09:25,940 --> 02:09:29,440
Ave site, an upland area on Guadalupe River, has been

1383
02:09:29,440 --> 02:09:32,760
proposed and it's my understanding that that site will go

1384
02:09:32,760 --> 02:09:35,740
to city council sometime this new year for consideration.

1385
02:09:37,620 --> 02:09:40,400
And that's all I have. So if there's any questions or any direction

1386
02:09:40,400 --> 02:09:41,980
and not the board would like to give?

1387
02:09:42,380 --> 02:09:46,420
Sure. Dr. Santos did you have any comments that you'd like to offer from?

1388
02:09:46,900 --> 02:09:49,640
Okay. So I have Dr. Bell.

1389
02:09:51,850 --> 02:09:52,350
Thank you.

1390
02:09:54,290 --> 02:09:59,830
One of the reasons I ran for the board here was to...

1391
02:10:00,080 --> 02:10:23,560
See if I can use my skills, if you want to say that way, having worked in the legislature, the city council, and the board of supervisors on housing and homeless issues, and I think the district act needs to be amended.

1392
02:10:24,660 --> 02:10:28,000
And we need to modernize the district act.

1393
02:10:30,440 --> 02:10:39,040
There are sections of the district act that could be modified, such as where it says abatement.

1394
02:10:39,900 --> 02:10:43,180
Talks about abatement in terms of people causing new senses.

1395
02:10:43,280 --> 02:10:46,900
It doesn't talk about using

1396
02:10:49,880 --> 02:10:50,760
a different phrase,

1397
02:10:53,980 --> 02:10:58,720
finding a home for people that don't have a home that happened to be living in our

1398
02:10:58,720 --> 02:11:06,960
creeks and it's not really abatement in terms of getting rid of a quote

1399
02:11:07,640 --> 02:11:08,160
nuisance.

1400
02:11:10,460 --> 02:11:13,960
It's dealing with human beings that are in the creeks that we need

1401
02:11:13,960 --> 02:11:23,540
help that are on our property, our property that we have, and finding ways of accommodating

1402
02:11:23,540 --> 02:11:32,460
the relocation of these people to safer better for the environment to cleaner and

1403
02:11:32,460 --> 02:11:34,020
more healthy locations.

1404
02:11:35,860 --> 02:11:42,810
And I think it's in our interest in terms of doing that because we are spending a lot

1405
02:11:42,810 --> 02:11:51,690
money on their traditional ways of cleaning up and relocating people and working with the city

1406
02:11:51,690 --> 02:11:57,290
in the camps and then people come back and then it goes over and over and over and over again

1407
02:11:57,290 --> 02:12:08,530
we're spending a lot of money. That to me is not the way to be proactive attacking a problem.

1408
02:12:08,530 --> 02:12:24,130
So I think that working in a more serious way a more deeper way to help people living in the creeks is the answer.

1409
02:12:24,210 --> 02:12:25,890
And we have to figure out how to do that.

1410
02:12:26,070 --> 02:12:31,870
I mean we don't know all the answers right now, but we have to figure out how to do that.

1411
02:12:31,870 --> 02:12:38,210
That remains one of my, Mr. Chairman, I know a lot of you are concerned about the same issues.

1412
02:12:38,810 --> 02:12:43,910
So that remains one of my primary things I would like to accomplish on the board.

1413
02:12:46,110 --> 02:12:46,630
So,

1414
02:12:49,300 --> 02:12:57,680
I think the first step is to look at the district gap to find out how we can amend it to make our agency serve the people of Santa Clara County better

1415
02:12:57,680 --> 02:13:05,380
regards to homeless people on the property and in the creeks in the

1416
02:13:05,380 --> 02:13:11,460
repairing quarters around the dams, around our other facilities, and how we can

1417
02:13:11,460 --> 02:13:21,180
work with other agencies in a proactive way to help solve the problems. Now we need

1418
02:13:21,180 --> 02:13:29,560
We also need to be taking a look at proposals, legislation, whether it's local or state

1419
02:13:29,560 --> 02:13:36,500
or federal that help people that are homeless and take active, active, straightforward,

1420
02:13:37,160 --> 02:13:45,320
priority positions on it so that we can be advocates for the governor and the president

1421
02:13:45,320 --> 02:13:49,560
and other people helping us solve this problem.

1422
02:13:49,560 --> 02:13:53,600
And we're part of the problem, we're not the whole problem because the homeless people

1423
02:13:53,600 --> 02:13:59,100
are not necessarily in our creeks, but what happens when there's, I notice when there

1424
02:14:00,480 --> 02:14:06,400
was an abatement, you want to call it that, it's the way I would describe it.

1425
02:14:06,400 --> 02:14:11,060
And Santa is the airport approach zone, there was a requirement that the city had to, and

1426
02:14:11,060 --> 02:14:19,540
I know this very well because I was involved in buying out all the properties under the

1427
02:14:20,900 --> 02:14:24,940
They are required by the federal government to relocate those people.

1428
02:14:26,140 --> 02:14:32,660
And it's requirement that was made when the city took grants to finance the building of

1429
02:14:32,660 --> 02:14:34,560
the airport in San Jose.

1430
02:14:35,440 --> 02:14:39,660
You can't receive this money unless you relocate these people and have no people living

1431
02:14:39,660 --> 02:14:41,140
under the airport of Procone.

1432
02:14:41,160 --> 02:14:45,540
That was the requirement of the grants back in the 80s and 90s.

1433
02:14:45,540 --> 02:14:48,300
So what happened was the city started to

1434
02:14:50,100 --> 02:14:59,980
Find places and they weren't able to find places for everybody and then people drifted down into the creeks next to the airport. I know that

1435
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:10,460
That's the case because you can just go out there and you can see it. And they drifted, up and down, the Guadalukey River, and even the County Creek.

1436
02:15:12,560 --> 02:15:27,880
And so when there's an abatement in one area, whether it's the city, Cal Trans, or some other agency, oftentimes they just move to some other area, and oftentimes is the creeps.

1437
02:15:29,190 --> 02:15:43,980
So, I would like to have a redefinition of our role in looking at this from the district

1438
02:15:43,980 --> 02:15:49,940
Act of supporting legislation, actually maybe getting proactive grants to help people

1439
02:15:49,940 --> 02:15:50,680
find housing.

1440
02:15:51,320 --> 02:15:57,880
You know, the governor has his motel program, that would be the most obvious one, short-term

1441
02:15:57,880 --> 02:16:05,000
housing that we could apply for grants for the governor, we can say governor, we want 300 slots,

1442
02:16:05,300 --> 02:16:14,160
so we can rent some of your motel rooms and move people out of the creeks into the hotel rooms.

1443
02:16:15,200 --> 02:16:18,680
We can find the hotel rooms and relocate people.

1444
02:16:19,780 --> 02:16:21,220
So that would be an answer.

1445
02:16:21,340 --> 02:16:22,260
That's a kind of answer.

1446
02:16:22,720 --> 02:16:27,040
I'm sure there's other ideas from people that know how to deal with this better.

1447
02:16:28,940 --> 02:16:35,550
I'm the board, the board might know I might work on mental health and I've been chairman of the

1448
02:16:35,550 --> 02:16:36,610
mental health committee.

1449
02:16:36,850 --> 02:16:41,730
I was the chair for eight years and had many legislative successes in the area of mental

1450
02:16:41,730 --> 02:16:42,450
health funding.

1451
02:16:43,310 --> 02:16:54,190
And I think a large number of our homeless people in our creeks have developmental mental health

1452
02:16:54,190 --> 02:16:56,550
and substance abuse issues are all three.

1453
02:16:56,550 --> 02:17:01,690
There's a difference between a developmental issue and a mental health issue.

1454
02:17:02,550 --> 02:17:05,490
So I think working with nonprofit agencies,

1455
02:17:07,190 --> 02:17:13,050
a momentum for mental health is one, other destination home, other groups that have specific

1456
02:17:13,050 --> 02:17:21,620
wraparound services to help people that are going through traumatic experience of living

1457
02:17:21,620 --> 02:17:25,540
by definition, if you're homeless, you're going through a traumatic experience.

1458
02:17:27,140 --> 02:17:30,140
And you know why I know, because I was homeless at one point.

1459
02:17:32,630 --> 02:17:37,990
My house, when I was young, my parents lost their house to a fire,

1460
02:17:39,970 --> 02:17:43,730
and Director Santos knows the story, because he served it.

1461
02:17:44,590 --> 02:17:50,670
We lost our house, and we have place to live for about a year and a half.

1462
02:17:50,670 --> 02:17:59,350
for 12 people. I have nine brothers and sisters. So I went through that process.

1463
02:18:04,990 --> 02:18:06,050
And it appears

1464
02:18:06,050 --> 02:18:07,630
to me that

1465
02:18:09,650 --> 02:18:18,870
even if we take a more aggressive stand, it might make us better able to fulfill

1466
02:18:18,870 --> 02:18:28,250
our mission of keeping the creeks environmentally safe, clean, and repairing quarters, and all

1467
02:18:28,250 --> 02:18:32,550
that kind of, all the goals we have that are in the goal statement. That's what our goals

1468
02:18:32,550 --> 02:18:41,570
are. To have people live in the creeks with interaction, the garbage stuff.

1469
02:18:44,090 --> 02:18:45,210
I think in

1470
02:18:45,210 --> 02:18:54,770
other places that has caused a environmental health problem and not only for the

1471
02:18:54,770 --> 02:18:59,930
creeks around the creeks but for the bay and for the region. I wonder if algae

1472
02:18:59,930 --> 02:19:06,150
problems exist because of the bacteria counts going up all those kinds of issues.

1473
02:19:06,150 --> 02:19:10,830
of vermin, all that kind of thing.

1474
02:19:12,810 --> 02:19:22,680
So taking care of people who need help in taking care of themselves

1475
02:19:22,680 --> 02:19:24,640
is a top priority government.

1476
02:19:27,160 --> 02:19:28,780
We can't ignore it.

1477
02:19:29,400 --> 02:19:32,080
So I would like, I would like to more fuller discussion

1478
02:19:32,080 --> 02:19:36,000
with my colleagues, I'm initiating it today.

1479
02:19:36,000 --> 02:19:46,060
I have, as you understand, strong police about this, is the reason I decided to join you.

1480
02:19:47,520 --> 02:19:48,800
Thank you.

1481
02:19:49,820 --> 02:19:50,060
Yes.

1482
02:19:51,020 --> 02:19:51,740
Thank you.

1483
02:19:52,060 --> 02:19:54,020
Director Bell, that was an amazing.

1484
02:19:54,820 --> 02:19:55,880
Mr. Chair of the story.

1485
02:19:56,200 --> 02:19:56,220
Yes.

1486
02:19:57,340 --> 02:19:58,680
I want to...

1487
02:19:58,680 --> 02:19:59,960
Yeah, real quick.

1488
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:07,280
I'm the chair of the House of Committee of the Environmental Creek Cleanup. It's very sensitive

1489
02:20:07,740 --> 02:20:12,600
to Jim Bell, director. We're really appreciate your comments. I know it comes from the heart

1490
02:20:12,600 --> 02:20:16,620
and it makes it even feel better. I want to assure you that we're doing all those things you

1491
02:20:16,620 --> 02:20:23,560
talked about, but with your help in terms of the District Act, potential legislation and those

1492
02:20:23,560 --> 02:20:29,900
other areas, these MOUs would put measureists together to something like 30 million dollars.

1493
02:20:30,120 --> 02:20:33,580
This is supposed to be going to county and social issues, but they have to do that part

1494
02:20:33,580 --> 02:20:35,340
of the job and we do ours.

1495
02:20:35,680 --> 02:20:39,460
And we need more partnerships and then even chair of a relis suggested on another last

1496
02:20:39,460 --> 02:20:39,760
meeting.

1497
02:20:40,240 --> 02:20:42,060
Let's get a GAPA in the county.

1498
02:20:42,440 --> 02:20:43,640
Those are good thoughts.

1499
02:20:44,140 --> 02:20:49,320
So along with your help and sensitivity, talking about the district gag and those words

1500
02:20:49,320 --> 02:20:52,460
that you use, I'm looking forward to your input,

1501
02:20:53,000 --> 02:20:54,460
and together we'll do a better job.

1502
02:20:54,920 --> 02:20:57,840
We do a good job, but we're always can do better.

1503
02:20:58,220 --> 02:21:00,940
Remember, I was around when you were around in 1976.

1504
02:21:02,020 --> 02:21:05,020
I was the firecamp and you were a city hall

1505
02:21:05,020 --> 02:21:07,280
when rigging through all the folks out in the creeks.

1506
02:21:07,700 --> 02:21:08,940
So I know another story.

1507
02:21:09,240 --> 02:21:12,020
My calls went for 150 a month, the 350 a month,

1508
02:21:12,100 --> 02:21:15,780
trying to get folks in veterans, which I am out of the creeks.

1509
02:21:15,940 --> 02:21:17,040
And they put them back in.

1510
02:21:17,320 --> 02:21:18,980
So I really appreciate what the said.

1511
02:21:18,980 --> 02:21:23,380
I'm looking for a chair of a relative when he makes his commitments to committees that we

1512
02:21:23,380 --> 02:21:24,420
all get together.

1513
02:21:24,980 --> 02:21:26,060
I look forward to working with you.

1514
02:21:26,600 --> 02:21:27,860
I really feel good about that.

1515
02:21:27,860 --> 02:21:28,400
Thank you.

1516
02:21:28,440 --> 02:21:28,780
Thank you.

1517
02:21:28,880 --> 02:21:33,360
And I think if somebody dies in the creeks, we should have a morning here.

1518
02:21:34,840 --> 02:21:35,220
You know?

1519
02:21:35,620 --> 02:21:35,780
Okay.

1520
02:21:36,080 --> 02:21:46,600
We should have if somebody passes because of the cold, because of the water, it's living in our

1521
02:21:48,080 --> 02:21:50,660
that's, we should have a zero tolerance.

1522
02:21:53,240 --> 02:21:55,700
That's our property that they're dying on.

1523
02:21:57,560 --> 02:22:00,460
We're the guardians of that property.

1524
02:22:01,500 --> 02:22:02,280
Thank you.

1525
02:22:02,600 --> 02:22:03,620
Okay, thank you.

1526
02:22:04,360 --> 02:22:04,780
CEO, calendar.

1527
02:22:07,550 --> 02:22:08,250
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

1528
02:22:09,230 --> 02:22:12,730
Through the chair, first I want to say very well aware

1529
02:22:12,730 --> 02:22:17,070
and appreciate the Senator of Director Bell's long-held

1530
02:22:17,070 --> 02:22:21,990
a true belief in dealing with the issues of the unhoused mental health and the

1531
02:22:21,990 --> 02:22:22,350
creak.

1532
02:22:22,930 --> 02:22:27,850
We do have item 8.1 on the agenda, so I'm going to ask the staff to make sure that we

1533
02:22:28,750 --> 02:22:31,090
proactively address that in item 8.1.

1534
02:22:31,190 --> 02:22:37,610
We are looking at potential changes to the district, and the next legislative session, and

1535
02:22:37,610 --> 02:22:41,910
so I would hope that the staff would be prepared to be able to address what Senator

1536
02:22:41,910 --> 02:22:46,810
Bell has been talking about in terms of how to make sure that we're addressing unhoused and

1537
02:22:46,810 --> 02:22:53,750
the way that is not only takes an account on mission and our vision around the environment,

1538
02:22:54,130 --> 02:23:01,230
but in a way that is doing so and takes an account, the lives of the individuals ever in

1539
02:23:01,230 --> 02:23:01,430
the creek.

1540
02:23:01,610 --> 02:23:04,810
So we will be prepared to address that item 8.1.

1541
02:23:06,110 --> 02:23:06,610
Thank you, sir.

1542
02:23:12,960 --> 02:23:19,360
First of all, I want to thank the committee and staff for bringing this in front of the

1543
02:23:19,360 --> 02:23:26,360
a great work. I definitely support Steph's recommendation. I just have one question about

1544
02:23:27,500 --> 02:23:34,640
this proposal number two establishment of a joint power authority made up of local agencies

1545
02:23:34,640 --> 02:23:42,600
or municipalities to exercise powers. They have income to adjust income and issues along

1546
02:23:42,600 --> 02:23:44,800
other ways throughout the county.

1547
02:23:47,220 --> 02:23:51,720
I mean, this is something that I think in my first one on

1548
02:23:51,720 --> 02:23:57,240
one meeting with Mr. Calendar when he became the CEO. I said, why don't we look into this

1549
02:23:57,240 --> 02:24:06,700
having a JPA? Yeah. And so it's something that I definitely feel that this kind of structure

1550
02:24:06,700 --> 02:24:17,960
that can make a progress in this problem, not in the video agencies cannot make a good progress.

1551
02:24:18,480 --> 02:24:19,560
So definitely support that.

1552
02:24:19,680 --> 02:24:26,780
My question is that maybe there's discussion at the committee, do we need to say a long

1553
02:24:26,780 --> 02:24:27,760
waterways?

1554
02:24:28,180 --> 02:24:32,180
Do we need to limit the GPA to be along the waterways?

1555
02:24:32,180 --> 02:24:39,480
can we make it wider, just trying to think that only along the other ways is not going to

1556
02:24:39,480 --> 02:24:47,060
still go on that go on. So it's all connected. So it's all connected. So it's my question,

1557
02:24:47,340 --> 02:24:55,480
and then if it, if I hope we can take, remove this along the other ways and just

1558
02:24:55,480 --> 02:24:59,300
can then issue throughout the county. So that's my question in comment.

1559
02:25:01,800 --> 02:25:02,320
Okay,

1560
02:25:04,880 --> 02:25:07,680
so much my head is filled with so many things. Director Eisenberg?

1561
02:25:15,870 --> 02:25:21,230
There you go. This is a great conversation, and having met with the staff and having met with each

1562
02:25:21,230 --> 02:25:28,370
director over the past two weeks, I am positive that every single person working on this cares

1563
02:25:28,370 --> 02:25:35,070
deeply about this issue very much, and I am so grateful to work with people who care so deeply.

1564
02:25:35,070 --> 02:25:37,930
And I'm truly grateful.

1565
02:25:39,870 --> 02:25:42,690
So one legal thing and then a heart thing.

1566
02:25:43,330 --> 02:25:48,250
So the legal thing is, I'm really grateful also for our work's gym and net act.

1567
02:25:48,290 --> 02:25:49,790
And I think it's extremely important.

1568
02:25:50,390 --> 02:26:04,170
But I wonder whether the act as written actually does prohibit us from taking more, you know,

1569
02:26:04,170 --> 02:26:09,390
conversation for offline and I'm sure this conversation has been having had elsewhere, but the

1570
02:26:09,390 --> 02:26:14,210
way I read the act is really about provision of water, safe, clean water, taking care of our

1571
02:26:14,210 --> 02:26:26,210
riparian, protecting the natural environment. But it seems to have weakened, I think, that our

1572
02:26:26,210 --> 02:26:31,790
provision of water depends on certain actions that we take with regard to our unhoused

1573
02:26:31,790 --> 02:26:38,850
populations. Specifically, our on-house populations right now do not have safe, consistent, affordable

1574
02:26:38,850 --> 02:26:46,550
access to clean water. And we are not, we are actually not to do to any of the fall to the

1575
02:26:46,550 --> 02:26:52,090
board and maybe in part due to lawyers fall to interpret this act numerally, but we are actually

1576
02:26:52,090 --> 02:26:54,310
failing our on-house populations.

1577
02:26:56,330 --> 02:26:59,730
It's inappropriate and I know the board agrees because I've met with

1578
02:26:59,730 --> 02:27:04,050
And I know all of us care so much about on-house people and we recognize that that could

1579
02:27:04,050 --> 02:27:06,390
be us and that they are us.

1580
02:27:06,730 --> 02:27:14,050
It was a bad buck, very at most of the time that put someone into the unhoused side of

1581
02:27:14,050 --> 02:27:14,550
the equation.

1582
02:27:15,030 --> 02:27:16,150
It's just bad luck.

1583
02:27:16,750 --> 02:27:20,450
You know, Elizabeth Warren found, you know, me, it had a statistical study proving that, you

1584
02:27:20,450 --> 02:27:23,070
know, what makes a family enter bankruptcy.

1585
02:27:23,770 --> 02:27:27,150
Go, go, impoverished, often it's just a medical bill.

1586
02:27:27,650 --> 02:27:28,110
They can't afford.

1587
02:27:28,110 --> 02:27:35,890
So these are us, these are people who are us, and we are not providing them safe, consistent, clean water.

1588
02:27:36,830 --> 02:27:41,130
And when we fix that problem, then we will be fulfilling our goals.

1589
02:27:41,310 --> 02:27:43,990
So I actually think we're obligated to help them.

1590
02:27:44,330 --> 02:27:50,930
And whether you interpret an act broadly or narrowly, is really just a difference between lawyers and policymakers.

1591
02:27:51,650 --> 02:27:57,290
When we talked about that application for the loan, that the requirements of that loan were interpreted broadly.

1592
02:27:57,290 --> 02:27:59,470
And sometimes things are interpreted broadly.

1593
02:28:00,350 --> 02:28:04,450
But here we're interpreting an act that governs what we can do narrowly.

1594
02:28:04,850 --> 02:28:10,330
So I think it'd be valuable to take another look at that act and maybe we can be the first

1595
02:28:10,330 --> 02:28:16,010
water district to interpret our act in a way that obligates us to help the unhoused.

1596
02:28:16,410 --> 02:28:17,730
I'd be very proud of that.

1597
02:28:17,970 --> 02:28:18,890
I think it's worth discussing.

1598
02:28:20,070 --> 02:28:23,630
So I agree with all of your proposals, except for one.

1599
02:28:23,630 --> 02:28:30,810
And I do want to respond to, I didn't really understand why the hesitation over cleaning

1600
02:28:31,310 --> 02:28:31,790
up.

1601
02:28:31,790 --> 02:28:38,050
You know, the areas because I do think one of our required goals is to clean up, is to keep

1602
02:28:38,050 --> 02:28:38,890
keeping areas clean.

1603
02:28:39,750 --> 02:28:44,250
So I don't understand the hesitation other than possibly, and I'm not saying you believe

1604
02:28:44,250 --> 02:28:49,170
this, but I know that many in the general public have a belief that is an unproven belief

1605
02:28:49,170 --> 02:28:52,690
that when we fail to provide services, to populations,

1606
02:28:53,450 --> 02:28:55,910
that that somehow can make things better,

1607
02:28:55,990 --> 02:28:57,730
or have those populations go elsewhere.

1608
02:28:58,570 --> 02:29:01,430
And just as a little background, I'm from the city,

1609
02:29:01,610 --> 02:29:03,970
you know, in a place, you know, the Jewish population in Milwaukee,

1610
02:29:04,170 --> 02:29:06,070
and I think I referred to this when I, in the square,

1611
02:29:06,530 --> 02:29:10,510
like for the very few Jewish immigrants who could afford to buy a house

1612
02:29:10,510 --> 02:29:14,110
when they came over, you know, in between 1890 and 1910,

1613
02:29:14,170 --> 02:29:17,350
which is when most of the Jewish people in our country came over to this country, right?

1614
02:29:17,350 --> 02:29:25,550
So very few Jewish people like my family could afford to buy a home, even though in Milwaukee that was like a $300 thing to buy a home.

1615
02:29:26,570 --> 02:29:28,850
But my father's father could.

1616
02:29:30,670 --> 02:29:39,290
And no neighborhood allowed Jewish people to buy homes except for Bronzeville, which is where the African American middle class lived.

1617
02:29:39,510 --> 02:29:41,130
They weren't allowed to buy anywhere either.

1618
02:29:41,130 --> 02:29:49,950
So my father grew up in an embassment entirely African-American neighborhood and attended

1619
02:29:49,950 --> 02:29:53,690
African-mostly, entirely African-American schools.

1620
02:29:55,230 --> 02:29:59,290
And there's another bad part of this about the city knocking down their homes, but that's

1621
02:29:59,290 --> 02:29:59,970
not relevant.

1622
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:09,040
But it's sad and upsetting. Anyway, my father and my family has been a witness to what happens when a city

1623
02:30:09,040 --> 02:30:19,000
when a government digests energy and resources in a neighborhood. And it results in slums. And these unhoused

1624
02:30:19,000 --> 02:30:27,640
And my grandmother stayed in her neighborhood as a police and others divested in it, just stopped serving it.

1625
02:30:28,320 --> 02:30:31,400
And, you know, there's white flight, but my grandparents refused to move.

1626
02:30:32,020 --> 02:30:37,800
And my grandfather died in that house, and my grandmother would have to, if my parents, if she weren't age 90 in my parents,

1627
02:30:38,280 --> 02:30:39,600
made her move closer to them.

1628
02:30:40,520 --> 02:30:43,180
So, and this is going to get to my other point too.

1629
02:30:43,180 --> 02:30:56,960
So the first point the story gets to is that under-serving are vulnerable populations only causes harm and not good and that we absolutely need to clean up the environment where the communities of on-house people live.

1630
02:30:57,240 --> 02:31:02,840
These are people as my colleagues have said. These are human beings, like us, and we need to serve them.

1631
02:31:03,360 --> 02:31:08,720
And we need to make sure they have access. The other point this brings up is my hesitation to work with the police.

1632
02:31:09,560 --> 02:31:15,660
So again, another experience you have when you are like a white Jewish family or you know any family living in a primarily

1633
02:31:16,340 --> 02:31:24,100
African-American neighborhood is the experience of in Milwaukee, this is for Jewish people, like around in the 50s and 40s,

1634
02:31:24,300 --> 02:31:26,380
is the experience of the police not being on your side.

1635
02:31:28,260 --> 02:31:33,900
So my grandfather wanted to stay in this neighborhood because it was the only neighborhood where he felt safe

1636
02:31:33,900 --> 02:31:37,560
And as we all monks, the African-American families there,

1637
02:31:37,560 --> 02:31:39,880
and his prize possession was the police scanner.

1638
02:31:41,260 --> 02:31:45,320
So he could don't wear to go away from.

1639
02:31:45,680 --> 02:31:47,800
And in Milwaukee specifically, in many cities,

1640
02:31:48,020 --> 02:31:50,640
Jewish people were actually at great risk.

1641
02:31:51,500 --> 02:31:53,180
And beating up his price killers,

1642
02:31:53,480 --> 02:31:56,000
and this doesn't happen now, they just watch.

1643
02:31:56,600 --> 02:31:59,520
And but it's something I'm always sensitive to.

1644
02:31:59,800 --> 02:32:02,980
Working with a police sometimes, even today,

1645
02:32:02,980 --> 02:32:06,920
because we saw so many police officers involved in January 6th.

1646
02:32:07,040 --> 02:32:10,220
Sometimes today, police don't keep everyone safe.

1647
02:32:10,980 --> 02:32:12,040
Sometimes they're the danger.

1648
02:32:12,440 --> 02:32:14,200
And this is a very controversial state,

1649
02:32:14,380 --> 02:32:16,760
but I'm just going to put it out there.

1650
02:32:17,140 --> 02:32:22,760
Because it's my reality, it's my lived experience and observation.

1651
02:32:23,620 --> 02:32:25,140
And I think it's worth thinking about.

1652
02:32:25,200 --> 02:32:27,200
The other reason I'm hesitant to work with a police

1653
02:32:27,200 --> 02:32:30,260
because it's because poverty in homelessness is not a crime.

1654
02:32:31,420 --> 02:32:36,580
And we could work with armed officers or we could work with social service professionals.

1655
02:32:37,880 --> 02:32:44,060
And I believe that armed officers have no place at all in addressing our unhoused population.

1656
02:32:44,560 --> 02:32:45,680
It's no place at all.

1657
02:32:46,020 --> 02:32:46,720
And quite frankly,

1658
02:32:49,240 --> 02:32:54,500
the only thing worse in my imagination and my research and my discussion with others,

1659
02:32:54,680 --> 02:32:58,120
the only thing worse than being unhoused, it's big unhoused with a police record.

1660
02:32:59,260 --> 02:33:07,540
So, I profoundly object to partnerships with police over this and request that we investigate

1661
02:33:07,540 --> 02:33:12,080
partnerships with social service agencies instead.

1662
02:33:13,380 --> 02:33:16,880
I also fear the guns near there.

1663
02:33:17,300 --> 02:33:24,440
I mean, so I hope we can explore that instead, because we're not here, I mean, on how

1664
02:33:24,440 --> 02:33:29,440
people offer, provide, I'm not dangerous, and we shouldn't treat them like the dangerous

1665
02:33:29,440 --> 02:33:30,040
or criminals.

1666
02:33:30,760 --> 02:33:31,760
They're all of us.

1667
02:33:32,060 --> 02:33:32,740
Thank you.

1668
02:33:33,140 --> 02:33:33,260
Okay.

1669
02:33:33,660 --> 02:33:37,480
I'd like to address your hesitation to clean up just to make it clear.

1670
02:33:38,120 --> 02:33:41,320
We do have an encampment cleanup crew that operates on a daily basis.

1671
02:33:41,920 --> 02:33:47,260
And so we are routinely cleaning these areas and removing almost 100 tons of encampment

1672
02:33:47,260 --> 02:33:49,740
generated trash and debris on a annual basis.

1673
02:33:50,180 --> 02:33:52,440
So it's not that there's a hesitation to clean up.

1674
02:33:52,440 --> 02:33:57,780
It's just that second crew, obviously, would be a whole additional crew that a supervisor

1675
02:33:57,780 --> 02:33:58,900
would need to take on.

1676
02:33:59,020 --> 02:34:03,920
And so there is kind of a commitment to agreeing to that, right?

1677
02:34:04,040 --> 02:34:06,260
So I think we just need to think more about that.

1678
02:34:07,140 --> 02:34:11,160
And then, you know, secondly, the police, the reason we do have the police to support us on

1679
02:34:11,160 --> 02:34:15,640
the cleanup events is because the outreach workers don't want to be present on the cleanup

1680
02:34:15,640 --> 02:34:22,860
of that. So, you know, and, and assaults do happen. I want to put that out there. We did just

1681
02:34:22,860 --> 02:34:28,100
have one of our staff members assaulted a couple of weeks ago. And luckily, the police were

1682
02:34:28,100 --> 02:34:35,160
on site and able to prevent him from being hit. This salt was with the baseball bat through

1683
02:34:35,160 --> 02:34:39,340
the window of the truck as staff were leaving the cleanup site, right? And so that's just one

1684
02:34:39,340 --> 02:34:44,840
example. We could get into many other examples. And so, while I agree with you, it would be

1685
02:34:44,840 --> 02:34:51,940
great to have something else available to support our staff. I'm just not aware of what that would be at this point.

1686
02:34:52,580 --> 02:34:56,120
Thank you. Thank you for those comments and there's responses. Director Estamara.

1687
02:34:56,960 --> 02:34:57,840
Thank you.

1688
02:34:58,540 --> 02:34:59,700
Thank you Mr. Chairman.

1689
02:35:01,500 --> 02:35:24,240
I think we've gotten far ahead of where we've been. And we have a committee that's very active in trying to coordinate all of the aspects that we as a district can and direct veils correct, that we have a number of restrictions, I think, on our act that we've got to deal with.

1690
02:35:24,240 --> 02:35:35,780
But my suggestion is that we either have a board workshop in January or I thought we should

1691
02:35:35,780 --> 02:35:42,040
refer this back to the committee, not necessarily the recommendations here, but I mean discussing

1692
02:35:42,660 --> 02:35:47,360
the questions that direct the bell raise with respect to the acted self.

1693
02:35:48,340 --> 02:35:52,400
And then some of the other issues that direct the Eisenberg and some of the rest of us direct

1694
02:35:52,400 --> 02:36:05,900
I think we need a forum to discuss this, I don't think the committee is good enough because, you know, we want to involve everybody on the board.

1695
02:36:06,180 --> 02:36:19,640
So I think if we set up a board study session in January where we can really dialogue and come out as we've done before with a comprehensive approach on this,

1696
02:36:20,780 --> 02:36:29,380
We have a lot of new mayors in the county. We've got two brand new members on the board of supervisors.

1697
02:36:30,060 --> 02:36:35,080
We've got all kinds of new mayors. As I mentioned, it sounds like they've not beat us any way or so on.

1698
02:36:35,680 --> 02:36:40,820
Mountain view, I mean, I go on and on and proud of also. And many new council people.

1699
02:36:40,820 --> 02:36:49,100
So I think we need to look at it, comprehensively, what our role would be, what others

1700
02:36:49,100 --> 02:36:56,000
role would be, so that then we can consider and a result of this study session could also

1701
02:36:56,000 --> 02:37:04,040
be, you know, what we'd like to see with respect to legislative relief of some sort, whether

1702
02:37:04,040 --> 02:37:10,340
it's, you know, amending our act or both, that and seeking funding and other other stuff.

1703
02:37:10,740 --> 02:37:17,280
But I think if we do that, I think, you know, we have some progress, because otherwise it's

1704
02:37:17,280 --> 02:37:18,040
too bifurcated.

1705
02:37:18,160 --> 02:37:22,540
The committee does one thing, the board wants to do another, you know, all the other say everybody

1706
02:37:22,540 --> 02:37:23,180
is involved.

1707
02:37:23,840 --> 02:37:29,300
So, I think if we do it that way, we will centralize our work, the staff will all be involved.

1708
02:37:29,300 --> 02:37:41,880
And then we can come out, I think, with a real good product, and from there, we'll have some action steps that both the board can take and staff can take.

1709
02:37:42,800 --> 02:37:57,480
And so I think we can accept the recommendation today, understanding that we're going to look at not only that, but, you know, a couple of densely, how we want to participate in finding solutions.

1710
02:37:57,480 --> 02:38:04,480
You know, this toward all of our members have always been dedicated to addressing these issues.

1711
02:38:05,220 --> 02:38:20,000
But, you know, we avoid the limited we feel and we felt by our act and by, you know, the reluctance of other public officials to, you know, to stand up and do what they should be doing on their part.

1712
02:38:20,000 --> 02:38:25,020
So I think this might, we might get a new license

1713
02:38:25,020 --> 02:38:28,300
I'm being able to approach the other public officials

1714
02:38:28,300 --> 02:38:33,060
that have to work with us, now that we have new public officials

1715
02:38:33,060 --> 02:38:36,640
that are probably dedicated to finding solutions

1716
02:38:36,640 --> 02:38:37,460
to these problems.

1717
02:38:38,700 --> 02:38:43,260
So I think I've ever just made a motion to adopt the recommendation

1718
02:38:43,260 --> 02:38:46,760
to staff the night second it, including,

1719
02:38:47,300 --> 02:38:49,460
I was going to say and you probably want to add

1720
02:38:49,460 --> 02:38:56,240
including that we should have this, yeah, I have, okay.

1721
02:38:57,120 --> 02:39:00,480
Well, I'm not allowed just along the waterways.

1722
02:39:00,700 --> 02:39:04,680
Well, no, as part of the motion, well, yeah, understood that, yeah, because, you know,

1723
02:39:04,820 --> 02:39:07,860
they're not just, you know, folks, they're going everywhere.

1724
02:39:08,300 --> 02:39:08,700
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1725
02:39:08,700 --> 02:39:09,820
Okay, that's not.

1726
02:39:10,020 --> 02:39:17,140
It would not include you, but also that we have the board work study session in January

1727
02:39:18,340 --> 02:39:23,800
to look for comprehensive solutions that, you know, that we want to participate in.

1728
02:39:24,820 --> 02:39:25,260
Okay.

1729
02:39:26,660 --> 02:39:27,180
I direct a cake.

1730
02:39:29,740 --> 02:39:31,040
Thank you.

1731
02:39:32,240 --> 02:39:37,700
And I do support Director Estimera's suggestion for a workshop.

1732
02:39:37,920 --> 02:39:46,040
I think this is an issue that all the board members, as well as our community, are really interested in and think that it's important.

1733
02:39:46,040 --> 02:39:51,660
And one of the reasons that I've long been advocating for some kind of

1734
02:39:51,660 --> 02:39:59,980
jing powers authority or group of that nature is that we're spending a lot of time in

1735
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:26,760
And when I say we, I'm talking about the larger community, but we are not seeing results. We are seeing the homeless population ever increasing. And we're also seeing an extreme level of frustration and upset on the part of the communities. And these are not people who are unkind. But these are people who, my fence was burnt down in the middle of the night.

1736
02:40:26,760 --> 02:40:33,620
or, you know, my catalytic converters have been stolen twice or, you know, a whole variety

1737
02:40:33,620 --> 02:40:40,640
of issues and or I don't feel safe walking down the trail system. I hear that all the time.

1738
02:40:41,220 --> 02:40:50,040
And so what we want to do is have a strategy with measurable results like more people being housed

1739
02:40:51,520 --> 02:40:59,460
that are recreation areas are safe for recreation again and that, you know, the, the unhoused

1740
02:40:59,460 --> 02:41:04,380
are not going to die in a flood or from the cold or anything like that.

1741
02:41:04,680 --> 02:41:11,620
You know, we, we want to get them housed again and we want to gain community acceptance

1742
02:41:11,620 --> 02:41:17,460
of our strategies because right now, you know, someone will say, well, people are living

1743
02:41:17,460 --> 02:41:21,760
under the freeway by your creek. I'm like, well, I think that might be a counter-ransition,

1744
02:41:22,060 --> 02:41:27,260
but I'll follow up on it. You know, it's like, they don't want to hear that. They don't want to hear us pointing fingers at someone else.

1745
02:41:27,680 --> 02:41:37,860
And I really think a big component of this is dealing with people who have untreated mental health conditions,

1746
02:41:37,980 --> 02:41:43,200
because I think that's driving some of the substance abuse and other issues that we're seeing.

1747
02:41:43,200 --> 02:41:51,500
It's people are self-medicating because they're in a lot of emotional and physical pain and we need to be able to help them with that.

1748
02:41:51,700 --> 02:42:01,400
And that may be including, you know, building new, in, in, in, in, in, in, in patients facilities to provide short-term mental health treatment,

1749
02:42:01,780 --> 02:42:08,310
rather than arresting people and putting them into jail, people need to, if, you know, they fall into that category of,

1750
02:42:08,310 --> 02:42:09,830
of meeting mental health services,

1751
02:42:10,030 --> 02:42:11,750
that there's something available for them.

1752
02:42:11,770 --> 02:42:13,990
And I think that would be a big win with the community.

1753
02:42:14,410 --> 02:42:16,430
But I could go on and on and on,

1754
02:42:16,530 --> 02:42:18,590
but we've kind of all gone on and on.

1755
02:42:18,910 --> 02:42:21,490
But I do think having a specific workshop

1756
02:42:21,490 --> 02:42:24,730
to talk about some identifiable strategies,

1757
02:42:24,930 --> 02:42:26,410
how we work with other people,

1758
02:42:26,510 --> 02:42:27,790
people that provide housing,

1759
02:42:28,030 --> 02:42:30,630
people that provide mental health treatment,

1760
02:42:30,870 --> 02:42:32,310
or physical health treatment,

1761
02:42:32,470 --> 02:42:35,790
or all those different things is really important.

1762
02:42:35,870 --> 02:42:37,670
So I look forward to having that discussion

1763
02:42:37,670 --> 02:42:38,830
and I'll support the motion.

1764
02:42:40,030 --> 02:42:40,830
Thank you.

1765
02:42:41,070 --> 02:42:43,370
So I have a motion in a second.

1766
02:42:44,070 --> 02:42:45,770
A motion from Director of Stamarin,

1767
02:42:45,930 --> 02:42:47,030
second by Director Schwer.

1768
02:42:47,970 --> 02:42:48,810
This is an action item.

1769
02:42:48,870 --> 02:42:50,990
Do you have any public speaking up with speakers on this?

1770
02:42:51,690 --> 02:42:52,550
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

1771
02:42:52,610 --> 02:42:54,110
I have no public comment at this time.

1772
02:42:54,570 --> 02:42:54,830
OK.

1773
02:42:55,050 --> 02:42:56,370
So we have an action item here.

1774
02:42:56,430 --> 02:42:58,270
All those in favor, signify by say aye.

1775
02:42:59,030 --> 02:42:59,690
All opposed?

1776
02:43:00,350 --> 02:43:01,530
The motion passes unanimously.

1777
02:43:01,930 --> 02:43:02,730
Thank you.

1778
02:43:03,490 --> 02:43:03,630
Yes.

1779
02:43:07,270 --> 02:43:09,910
What's your speaker on?

1780
02:43:12,270 --> 02:43:13,390
Let's see if I can get it right.

1781
02:43:14,570 --> 02:43:15,350
Yeah, I got it.

1782
02:43:15,950 --> 02:43:22,190
Because the staff mentioned that there was some kind of altercation.

1783
02:43:24,730 --> 02:43:26,290
There's been quite a few.

1784
02:43:27,310 --> 02:43:34,470
What I want to suggest is I will work with the director on connecting them with NAMI and other organizations

1785
02:43:34,470 --> 02:43:45,730
to do some training for the staff on working, interacting with people that have mental health issues.

1786
02:43:46,390 --> 02:43:55,650
I authored the both legislation with the help of the highway patrol and other law enforcement

1787
02:43:55,650 --> 02:44:02,910
agencies for police training for people, law enforcement training for people with mental

1788
02:44:02,910 --> 02:44:10,030
and we trained 80,000 police officers in California as a result of the bills we've got past

1789
02:44:10,030 --> 02:44:22,810
a two-fifth SB 10 and 29. I think that the training is available. So when we have staff that

1790
02:44:22,810 --> 02:44:31,370
will be working in those areas where they would have interactions, we should have a training

1791
02:44:31,370 --> 02:44:36,650
for them. And I work with you to make sure that happens.

1792
02:44:39,170 --> 02:44:40,490
We have been very involved in

1793
02:44:41,310 --> 02:44:48,390
NAMI, National Alliance for Mill Hill. I wife and I both are very involved in it. And they

1794
02:44:48,390 --> 02:44:55,790
have training for not only staff of agencies, but also family members that have another family

1795
02:44:55,790 --> 02:44:59,810
member that has a mental health issue so we have all those kinds of

1796
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:07,340
Programs available to help people. And I will work with the directors and the staff on that.

1797
02:45:07,340 --> 02:45:07,920
Thank you.

1798
02:45:08,020 --> 02:45:10,420
Thank you, Director. I really appreciate it.

1799
02:45:10,440 --> 02:45:13,000
We're going to move on on the agenda item 4.4.

1800
02:45:14,300 --> 02:45:17,700
Lost the catalyst, reservoired, joint powers authority, appointment of interim,

1801
02:45:17,700 --> 02:45:23,000
an interim board member representation, representative, and alternate representative.

1802
02:45:23,920 --> 02:45:31,580
A appointment interim has indicated, so a way of notification, we needed to take action on

1803
02:45:31,580 --> 02:45:42,140
this relatively quickly, so we had a meeting recently with CEO and appointed director

1804
02:45:42,140 --> 02:45:46,020
as to Mara, as primary and director Baralla, as alternate.

1805
02:45:47,480 --> 02:45:49,260
So we can have board discussion on that.

1806
02:45:49,600 --> 02:45:54,340
At this point, we have a motion to approve.

1807
02:45:56,040 --> 02:45:57,900
Who gave me Mr. Bell?

1808
02:46:10,700 --> 02:46:11,080
Go ahead.

1809
02:46:13,600 --> 02:46:14,360
Thank you.

1810
02:46:14,660 --> 02:46:19,760
Well, I actually think that it's premature to make appointments.

1811
02:46:19,760 --> 02:46:27,260
You know, one of the things that I've noticed is that we have no women on our storage committee.

1812
02:46:27,800 --> 02:46:30,260
Committees either internally or externally.

1813
02:46:30,980 --> 02:46:33,900
And I think having gender priorities important.

1814
02:46:34,600 --> 02:46:41,680
Also, I would rather look at the assignments comprehensively in January or February.

1815
02:46:41,680 --> 02:46:50,420
And in the interim, we could have the board members who are replacing the prior representatives

1816
02:46:50,420 --> 02:46:51,560
to serve on that.

1817
02:46:51,680 --> 02:46:57,320
So that would mean Director Eisenberg as the representative.

1818
02:46:58,800 --> 02:47:05,500
And if we need an alternate to have Director Bell service the alternate.

1819
02:47:05,780 --> 02:47:09,140
Because I do think that we need to be equitable.

1820
02:47:09,140 --> 02:47:25,120
The other option would be, I looked at the agenda for tomorrow, I think the only thing that's important on it is there's a technical ad hoc committee that we would probably be interested in voting on but we could request that they defer that till their next meeting.

1821
02:47:25,640 --> 02:47:28,080
So, again, that would be my preference.

1822
02:47:28,500 --> 02:47:28,740
Thank you.

1823
02:47:28,840 --> 02:47:31,340
Director, I think

1824
02:47:36,620 --> 02:47:43,020
by colleague, Director Kigan and actually I agree.

1825
02:47:43,020 --> 02:48:00,180
I, with everything, first I think that it's premature, you know, because, at least I'll speak for myself, I, you know, I'm not sure which committees, the best fit for my skills and, you know, and I do think we should take a comprehensive look.

1826
02:48:00,180 --> 02:48:12,520
It makes the most sense, I agree that we need to look a lot harder and make a stronger commitment to gender equity that that is important.

1827
02:48:13,140 --> 02:48:23,280
And I think that's especially important in matters where women often are not, don't get a place at the table, which is the big stuff and the money stuff.

1828
02:48:23,880 --> 02:48:30,480
And, you know, I think that all the women here have really dealt, you know, have built careers,

1829
02:48:31,440 --> 02:48:34,220
you know, dedicated to big stuff and money stuff.

1830
02:48:34,500 --> 02:48:40,320
And, have a lot of experience working in rooms where almost everyone else or everyone else is male.

1831
02:48:41,320 --> 02:48:43,900
So, you can count on us to hold our own.

1832
02:48:44,440 --> 02:48:49,140
You know, and thinking of storage, that actually is something I'm extremely concerned about.

1833
02:48:49,140 --> 02:48:55,680
It was one of my biggest campaign promises is that, you know, I posed the dam because I think

1834
02:48:55,680 --> 02:49:00,120
there are better ways of storage and, you know, and that's why I also think it should

1835
02:49:00,120 --> 02:49:05,240
be fresh blood because a lot of these better ways of storage didn't become as clear that

1836
02:49:05,240 --> 02:49:10,520
they're better until they're recently based on science, you know, the things that we hear

1837
02:49:10,520 --> 02:49:16,640
about evaporation rates and this is excessive other counties are having at water recycling

1838
02:49:17,200 --> 02:49:19,040
and storm water capture.

1839
02:49:19,900 --> 02:49:22,580
So I think it's, you know, I believe in term limits,

1840
02:49:22,600 --> 02:49:24,000
by the way, for this reason, too.

1841
02:49:24,020 --> 02:49:26,720
I think it's really helpful to have, you know,

1842
02:49:27,120 --> 02:49:30,740
no offense or insult to my colleagues who've been here a long time.

1843
02:49:31,000 --> 02:49:33,000
I just think this helps the Democratic process

1844
02:49:33,000 --> 02:49:37,060
to have new ideas replaced for the older ideas regularly.

1845
02:49:37,680 --> 02:49:39,360
And so I would say on every committee,

1846
02:49:39,460 --> 02:49:41,460
there needs to be at least one of, I mean,

1847
02:49:41,560 --> 02:49:43,300
to the extent we move, whenever possible,

1848
02:49:43,440 --> 02:49:44,220
we should have a new person.

1849
02:49:44,440 --> 02:49:45,320
So for all those reasons,

1850
02:49:45,320 --> 02:49:51,800
I think we should delay. I'd be happy to take my predecessors role, you know, a part tomorrow,

1851
02:49:52,080 --> 02:49:58,580
especially since it's not a big agenda, and I think you can trust me for that agenda item.

1852
02:49:59,340 --> 02:49:59,940
And...

1853
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:07,840
Yeah, because again, I think we share the same goal, the same overall goals. And that's all. Thank you.

1854
02:50:08,240 --> 02:50:16,140
Thank you, Director, Director Estimara. Thank you Mr. Chairman. Yeah, I have no problem with that suggestion.

1855
02:50:17,000 --> 02:50:25,420
I know you made the appointment because we have previously actually worked with Coco County, kind of number of issues.

1856
02:50:25,420 --> 02:50:28,460
So I have no problem with doing that.

1857
02:50:29,200 --> 02:50:31,840
I'm sure that right doesn't work and represent us adequately.

1858
02:50:34,110 --> 02:50:34,170
OK.

1859
02:50:35,150 --> 02:50:37,570
Any public comments on that?

1860
02:50:40,650 --> 02:50:43,010
The aim is to share and know I have no public comment at this time.

1861
02:50:43,790 --> 02:50:44,010
OK.

1862
02:50:45,410 --> 02:50:48,150
So from what I hear, the recommendation would

1863
02:50:48,150 --> 02:50:53,490
be to have Director Eisenberg of District 7 be the primary

1864
02:50:53,850 --> 02:50:57,730
and Director of the Director of Bell of District 4 be the alternate.

1865
02:50:57,730 --> 02:51:10,990
Is that what I understand on an interim basis until board appointed committees are done with the appointment of the chair and January?

1866
02:51:11,970 --> 02:51:13,830
So that's the motion director Santos.

1867
02:51:14,010 --> 02:51:15,930
Will you amend your motion to approve that?

1868
02:51:16,390 --> 02:51:18,090
And do I have a second on that?

1869
02:51:21,230 --> 02:51:22,210
Okay, Mr. Mayor.

1870
02:51:22,690 --> 02:51:25,390
Okay, so we all understand the action on that.

1871
02:51:25,530 --> 02:51:27,410
So all those in favor signify by saying aye.

1872
02:51:27,410 --> 02:51:31,870
All right, all those opposed, unanimous. Congratulations.

1873
02:51:32,730 --> 02:51:35,670
Meeting tomorrow at 9 o'clock, it's only 500 miles away, good luck.

1874
02:51:40,060 --> 02:51:43,320
And it's no zoom, beginning January, so have fun.

1875
02:51:47,220 --> 02:51:50,960
Well, that's key word, by the way. Okay, moving on to the agenda, 4.5.

1876
02:51:51,420 --> 02:51:55,500
Consider the February 16th, 2022 Board, Audit Committee,

1877
02:51:55,500 --> 02:52:02,340
Recommendation to approve revised clarifying language to the board audit committee audit charter

1878
02:52:03,600 --> 02:52:04,980
So during Taylor

1879
02:52:05,520 --> 02:52:10,000
Spotlights on you. Good afternoon. Chair for the members of the board during Taylor chief financial officer

1880
02:52:10,000 --> 02:52:14,260
This item 4.5 is a recommendation from the board audit committee to

1881
02:52:14,260 --> 02:52:17,560
Rebise the board audit committee's audit charter

1882
02:52:17,560 --> 02:52:21,400
What it does is adds language to ensure that the financial auditors

1883
02:52:21,400 --> 02:52:25,680
communities, communicate any issues or concerns that they may come across during their

1884
02:52:25,680 --> 02:52:30,140
audits, which may pose a risk to value water, that they communicate those to the

1885
02:52:30,140 --> 02:52:34,180
board out of committee in a timely manner, and it's added language with regard to

1886
02:52:34,180 --> 02:52:38,300
the frequency and intent of training provided by the independent auditor to the

1887
02:52:38,300 --> 02:52:39,340
board out of committee.

1888
02:52:43,240 --> 02:52:44,200
Director Schwerier?

1889
02:52:46,550 --> 02:52:51,290
And I'd like to make a motion to approve committee's recommendation.

1890
02:52:51,290 --> 02:52:53,310
We have a motion to have a second.

1891
02:52:53,830 --> 02:52:55,070
We have a motion in the second.

1892
02:52:55,150 --> 02:52:57,190
Do we have public comment on this item?

1893
02:52:57,950 --> 02:52:58,510
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

1894
02:52:58,550 --> 02:53:00,050
I have no public comment at this time.

1895
02:53:00,490 --> 02:53:00,550
Okay.

1896
02:53:01,810 --> 02:53:03,690
Any other board discussion on this item?

1897
02:53:09,590 --> 02:53:09,790
Okay.

1898
02:53:09,890 --> 02:53:10,950
Darren, you want to explain that?

1899
02:53:11,190 --> 02:53:12,850
As far as what we're approving.

1900
02:53:13,430 --> 02:53:13,670
Sure.

1901
02:53:14,030 --> 02:53:16,970
So one of the committees that the board has is the board audit committee.

1902
02:53:17,730 --> 02:53:19,790
And they are governed by a charter.

1903
02:53:21,790 --> 02:53:24,330
And so periodically we bring the charter in front of the board.

1904
02:53:24,330 --> 02:53:50,150
Today, we're bringing a couple of revisions to that charter, just language that would solidify that the financial auditors, as they're doing their audit work each year, for value water, if they come across any issues concerns, make sure they report that to the Board Audit Committee in a timely manner, and then there's another some revised language on with regard to training that the Board Audit Committee receives on an annual or buying your basis.

1905
02:53:50,910 --> 02:53:56,510
And so, that's, I guess, I'll stop there if that answers the question.

1906
02:53:58,590 --> 02:54:00,670
It does thank you for that explanation.

1907
02:54:01,990 --> 02:54:03,170
Okay, thank you, Director Keegan.

1908
02:54:03,830 --> 02:54:04,630
Oh, you're done.

1909
02:54:05,070 --> 02:54:10,550
Okay, so we have a motion and a second to approve the item on the agenda, all those by

1910
02:54:10,550 --> 02:54:16,830
in favor of signify by say aye, aye, all opposed, good job board, you guys are doing great.

1911
02:54:17,770 --> 02:54:17,870
Wow.

1912
02:54:17,870 --> 02:54:18,870
and pressed.

1913
02:54:19,110 --> 02:54:25,810
You're moving on the agenda 4.6 review the fiscal year 2023 board policy planning calendar.

1914
02:54:26,370 --> 02:54:30,330
Recommendation review the fiscal year as I just said information input only.

1915
02:54:32,750 --> 02:54:32,750
Yes?

1916
02:54:34,070 --> 02:54:35,090
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

1917
02:54:35,290 --> 02:54:36,170
I bet that was down.

1918
02:54:36,170 --> 02:54:37,070
King Clark of the board.

1919
02:54:37,590 --> 02:54:44,790
So this is your monthly reoccurring item or the board to review your fiscal year 23 board policy planning calendar.

1920
02:54:44,790 --> 02:54:59,970
A test to your packet, as a attachment one, is the updated calendar, which has been updated to include some additional committee items that are coming before the committee on drought response plan, delta-convance project, drought risk.

1921
02:55:00,580 --> 02:55:19,460
Let's see what else. I think that's it. So, very few updates. The looks like we are, you know, halfway through the year, and looks like we're making a new progress. So at this time, I stand up on for any changes, additions, or any additional information.

1922
02:55:21,900 --> 02:55:46,120
Thank you, Chair, just the request for CEO and Kirk of the board to discuss with the chair to include what this board discussed in today's meeting to add those items to the planning calendar and maybe come, maybe come, maybe come.

1923
02:55:47,760 --> 02:55:48,760
Dr. Kagan?

1924
02:55:52,290 --> 02:55:59,090
Thank you. Director Shua, I don't think you are explicit about the unhoused workshop.

1925
02:55:59,370 --> 02:56:00,890
Is that what you were referring to?

1926
02:56:01,310 --> 02:56:01,890
Okay, thank you.

1927
02:56:04,570 --> 02:56:05,170
See you, calendar.

1928
02:56:07,810 --> 02:56:10,690
Yes, for the, actually through the chair for the unhoused workshop,

1929
02:56:11,090 --> 02:56:17,410
I actually just sent off a message to Michelle King, the clerk,

1930
02:56:17,410 --> 02:56:21,510
That's a request of special meeting on the 17th that the Board

1931
02:56:21,510 --> 02:56:25,730
we pulled for a special meeting on the 17th for not only the unhoused workshop,

1932
02:56:26,010 --> 02:56:28,150
but potentially another item to be added.

1933
02:56:28,710 --> 02:56:32,650
But so we can have a large workshop on at least one item of not two.

1934
02:56:34,750 --> 02:56:35,350
Thank you.

1935
02:56:35,570 --> 02:56:36,510
Director Bell?

1936
02:56:39,310 --> 02:56:45,770
Just for everybody's information, I like to have opportunities in my district to do like

1937
02:56:45,770 --> 02:56:51,650
town hall meetings on water conservation and other activities. I don't know if I need to put it on the calendar, but

1938
02:56:51,650 --> 02:56:58,610
Okay, so I just point a point. I'll get somebody to help me with that. The other the other issue is

1939
02:57:00,450 --> 02:57:01,410
Earth Day

1940
02:57:02,890 --> 02:57:07,630
It might be a good idea that we start a planning committee to do a lot of activities on

1941
02:57:08,810 --> 02:57:13,790
April, Earth Day and do some kind of

1942
02:57:13,790 --> 02:57:15,650
This is just a thought that I have.

1943
02:57:16,090 --> 02:57:20,810
I think it's important that we, as a leading environmental

1944
02:57:20,810 --> 02:57:25,790
organization in Santa Clara County, to do a lead off on

1945
02:57:25,790 --> 02:57:29,410
Earth Day about water conservation, you know, tree

1946
02:57:29,410 --> 02:57:32,390
plannings, other kinds of activities that we can do

1947
02:57:32,390 --> 02:57:33,410
educating children.

1948
02:57:36,490 --> 02:57:39,390
I don't know if we have anybody that does education,

1949
02:57:39,390 --> 02:57:41,430
environmental education,

1950
02:57:43,790 --> 02:57:47,190
that kind of thing, but just a thought that Earth Day is coming

1951
02:57:47,190 --> 02:57:55,530
up in April. So maybe we can have a discussion of this at some point on our agenda, or maybe

1952
02:57:55,530 --> 02:57:57,510
I don't know what committee would work on that, so.

1953
02:57:57,650 --> 02:58:02,730
I know that we have done programs in the past year, so I think let's do a big one this

1954
02:58:02,730 --> 02:58:08,930
time. I think that would be good for us, good image, good, good, it's our job in my way

1955
02:58:08,930 --> 02:58:09,370
Thank you.

1956
02:58:09,730 --> 02:58:10,250
Thank you.

1957
02:58:11,330 --> 02:58:12,010
Thank you.

1958
02:58:13,490 --> 02:58:13,930
Rachel.

1959
02:58:14,910 --> 02:58:15,490
Thank you chair.

1960
02:58:15,650 --> 02:58:15,990
Pardon, brother.

1961
02:58:16,550 --> 02:58:19,670
Through the chair, Director Bell, I wanted to make sure that the board is also aware that

1962
02:58:19,670 --> 02:58:24,070
we do actively participate in a number of Earth Day events in our various partner cities.

1963
02:58:24,410 --> 02:58:25,490
All across Santa Clara County.

1964
02:58:25,990 --> 02:58:30,370
We have in fact a very robust community events program where we go out with water district

1965
02:58:30,370 --> 02:58:34,070
branded booths, with water district grade giveaways, and of course the literature.

1966
02:58:34,410 --> 02:58:37,610
We're going to be talking about the projects in those areas as well as the urgent need

1967
02:58:37,610 --> 02:58:38,330
for water conservation.

1968
02:58:38,330 --> 02:58:40,010
I just want to make sure the board was aware.

1969
02:58:40,810 --> 02:58:41,270
Thank you, Rachel.

1970
02:58:42,350 --> 02:58:42,610
Okay.

1971
02:58:43,250 --> 02:58:44,850
So that was information only.

1972
02:58:45,090 --> 02:58:46,510
Moving on to 4.7.

1973
02:58:47,110 --> 02:58:48,710
Board committee reports.

1974
02:58:49,630 --> 02:58:53,330
Any board members choose to give a report out at this particular time?

1975
02:58:56,420 --> 02:58:57,860
I'll give you a brief one.

1976
02:58:58,660 --> 02:59:06,520
We had the aqua fall conference last week, two weeks ago in Indian wells, which is next to

1977
02:59:06,520 --> 02:59:07,080
Palm Springs.

1978
02:59:07,080 --> 02:59:08,760
It's an amazing complex.

1979
02:59:10,540 --> 02:59:13,200
We were, we had a week of intense meetings.

1980
02:59:15,240 --> 02:59:18,940
I gave you a handout on the Aquaclamic Change Policy

1981
02:59:18,940 --> 02:59:21,140
Principles, that's for your pleasure to read.

1982
02:59:21,260 --> 02:59:23,520
That was adopted at the conference

1983
02:59:23,520 --> 02:59:26,360
with the Board of Directors, which I said on the Board

1984
02:59:26,360 --> 02:59:26,840
of Directors.

1985
02:59:26,840 --> 02:59:30,580
And also, California Farm Bureau issued a bulletin

1986
02:59:30,580 --> 02:59:34,820
and a memo on the problems that they're experiencing

1987
02:59:34,820 --> 02:59:41,420
up and down the state in water scarcity, and fascinating, and my wife and I were driving

1988
02:59:41,420 --> 02:59:48,200
down I-5 from Los Banners to Bakersville. It was like I was driving through the Mojave Desert.

1989
02:59:49,060 --> 02:59:57,320
It was absolutely bizarre. Nothing was growing. No crops. Brownscape dust, and it was actually

1990
02:59:57,900 --> 02:59:59,600
frightening to see that.

1991
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:08,940
That is our major economy for the State of California's agriculture. We feed not only California, but we feed the world from that region, other region.

1992
03:00:08,940 --> 03:00:19,800
I'm fortunate enough to sit on several different agriculture from the committees and boards, from the central coast of the Central Valley, as director Estimera and now also director.

1993
03:00:19,800 --> 03:00:25,620
The Santos do with the San Luis Delta Medota Water Authority, but seeing that, it was a frightened

1994
03:00:25,620 --> 03:00:29,920
example of what is happening in the state and an entire west coast, on the entire

1995
03:00:29,920 --> 03:00:32,020
west coast, with water scarcity.

1996
03:00:33,840 --> 03:00:37,700
So, some of us are all about water storage, some of us are not about water storage.

1997
03:00:38,000 --> 03:00:42,600
The most important thing is we need to find the solutions that makes sense to everybody and

1998
03:00:42,600 --> 03:00:47,600
the cost parameters that don't impact all our repairs and all these collaborative meetings that

1999
03:00:47,600 --> 03:00:52,220
having and I keep talking about joint power authorities, several of them are in conversation

2000
03:00:52,220 --> 03:00:53,300
in the works.

2001
03:00:54,780 --> 03:01:02,620
So it was just a brief moment, and of course, that particular medium, the Oculus first-ever

2002
03:01:02,620 --> 03:01:09,440
foundation on diversity equity inclusion was formed approved, and yours truly was appointed

2003
03:01:09,440 --> 03:01:15,500
the Board Trustee's chair of that committee, and we have our first meeting in Sacramento

2004
03:01:15,500 --> 03:01:21,020
this Friday, and we have a myriad of ideas that we're going to be working toward what Mr.

2005
03:01:21,120 --> 03:01:26,020
Bell has been talking about, finding resources and funding for water career path education

2006
03:01:26,020 --> 03:01:32,220
to those young bright students that don't necessarily have a pathway because not who the

2007
03:01:32,220 --> 03:01:37,940
arts but where they live and what they represent, what the color their skin is, what language they speak,

2008
03:01:38,020 --> 03:01:42,760
you might have an accent but they're brilliant and they're smart. So these are going to be some of

2009
03:01:42,760 --> 03:01:45,040
targets that we're going to be looking at to educate.

2010
03:01:45,580 --> 03:01:52,140
Our board of trustees is amazing, the cross section of education, water of managers, women

2011
03:01:52,140 --> 03:01:55,080
and water, which is another advocate that we're going to be working toward.

2012
03:01:55,740 --> 03:02:01,140
And so I'm particularly proud to be part of this, and I will keep you post as we move forward.

2013
03:02:01,400 --> 03:02:02,440
So that's my report.

2014
03:02:03,140 --> 03:02:03,660
Chair?

2015
03:02:04,280 --> 03:02:04,340
Yes.

2016
03:02:04,340 --> 03:02:10,100
I have the CIP coming report, but I also related to that report.

2017
03:02:10,100 --> 03:02:13,720
I have to have more member requests, so I'll report it on the 12.1.

2018
03:02:14,960 --> 03:02:15,240
All right.

2019
03:02:15,400 --> 03:02:16,300
Anybody else?

2020
03:02:17,060 --> 03:02:17,260
Great.

2021
03:02:17,420 --> 03:02:18,420
Moving on?

2022
03:02:18,720 --> 03:02:18,880
Oh.

2023
03:02:19,260 --> 03:02:19,480
All right.

2024
03:02:20,040 --> 03:02:20,880
Mr. Dredgresenberg?

2025
03:02:21,400 --> 03:02:25,480
I just want to say congratulations to the chair for being appointed to that.

2026
03:02:26,680 --> 03:02:27,780
Well, thank you very much.

2027
03:02:28,660 --> 03:02:29,880
It's quite an honor, believe me.

2028
03:02:30,060 --> 03:02:36,060
And by the way, that's the first foundation of 501c3 ever from Aqua.

2029
03:02:37,280 --> 03:02:40,860
And the President and the Vice President are women.

2030
03:02:41,480 --> 03:02:42,880
That's another first.

2031
03:02:43,920 --> 03:02:48,700
So we're changing that organization to more reflect the communities

2032
03:02:48,700 --> 03:02:50,460
that we all come from.

2033
03:02:51,400 --> 03:02:53,620
And that our two new board members were alluding to today.

2034
03:02:54,100 --> 03:02:55,800
We want to look like who we represent.

2035
03:02:56,020 --> 03:02:59,840
And that's happening statewide through the representation and this foundation.

2036
03:03:01,040 --> 03:03:02,220
So I'll stop talking.

2037
03:03:02,700 --> 03:03:05,460
Okay, let's go move on to what do utility enterprise 5.1.

2038
03:03:05,460 --> 03:03:14,140
approved amendment number 1 to agreement number A4418A with Kaui, North America, and

2039
03:03:14,140 --> 03:03:20,560
corporated for construction management services for the Anderson Dan project number 9186406.

2040
03:03:20,720 --> 03:03:31,460
Case file number 5155 increasing fee by $8,584,817, dollars for total revised fee of $29,449,870.

2041
03:03:31,460 --> 03:03:39,200
in District 1. Hello, Morgan Hill. It's an action item. Do we have one to make a motion to

2042
03:03:39,200 --> 03:03:45,280
approve staff recommendation? A motion in a second. Any board discussion on this?

2043
03:03:49,830 --> 03:03:55,530
Director Eisenberg. Thank you. I'm just, again, newbie. I'm just showing for a quick overview

2044
03:03:55,530 --> 03:04:00,520
about what we're being asked to approve. Okay. The menu, are you? Would you like to give a brief

2045
03:04:00,520 --> 03:04:21,640
Good afternoon, sir. Good afternoon, Chair. Direct as a member of the public. This amendment is to add a scope of work to the construction management firm on the understand tunnel project that we're doing right now.

2046
03:04:21,640 --> 03:04:33,780
It's to enable us to do parameter quality monitoring, to meet the requirements of the Bay Area Quality Management District,

2047
03:04:34,400 --> 03:04:42,540
to be able to meet the permits and all the requirements that they've imposed on the tunnel project.

2048
03:04:45,050 --> 03:04:46,430
Okay, thank you.

2049
03:04:47,490 --> 03:04:48,650
Anderson, there, I'm the tunnel project.

2050
03:04:48,710 --> 03:04:51,850
I know this is definitely what are we intending to do specifically.

2051
03:04:53,710 --> 03:04:59,230
What you're doing is to read the requirements.

2052
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:09,380
We do a quality monitoring, and we take else samples, which we have to do daily, and we take 14 samples

2053
03:05:09,380 --> 03:05:19,140
per 24 hour spans, and then we take it to the lab, and then the samples are tested at the lab,

2054
03:05:19,660 --> 03:05:27,740
and the results are then sent to the quality monitoring management district, for them to

2055
03:05:27,740 --> 03:05:33,480
see how they are doing the tunneling and mixed up the soil.

2056
03:05:34,000 --> 03:05:35,200
It's happening on the project.

2057
03:05:37,280 --> 03:05:38,660
So, okay, anybody else?

2058
03:05:38,900 --> 03:05:40,300
Any public comments on this?

2059
03:05:41,120 --> 03:05:42,020
I had a question.

2060
03:05:42,940 --> 03:05:43,920
Oh, Director Keegan, I didn't see you.

2061
03:05:44,640 --> 03:05:45,800
Thank you.

2062
03:05:46,960 --> 03:05:54,560
So, what we're doing here essentially is that we removed some work from the design consultant's

2063
03:05:54,560 --> 03:05:58,200
contract and put it with the construction management firm.

2064
03:05:58,460 --> 03:06:03,500
Why did we originally include it with the design consultant?

2065
03:06:04,560 --> 03:06:08,060
During the design phase and the permit acquisition,

2066
03:06:08,440 --> 03:06:12,820
we had to start with the whole process.

2067
03:06:13,460 --> 03:06:15,720
And the initial setup at that time,

2068
03:06:15,880 --> 03:06:18,200
the construction management firm was not on board,

2069
03:06:18,300 --> 03:06:19,760
because we were not in construction.

2070
03:06:19,760 --> 03:06:41,660
And so we started off with the design consultant, but then when we started construction and when we had a meeting with the Bay Area Quality Management District, it was agreed that this should be performed by the construction management fair.

2071
03:06:41,660 --> 03:06:48,780
And so we moved it from the design consultant from into the work for the construction management.

2072
03:06:49,400 --> 03:06:56,120
So did we have a limited scope of services for the design consultant? In other words, we didn't

2073
03:06:56,120 --> 03:07:06,680
cut whatever it is like $9 million from the design consultant and move it over to the construction consultant.

2074
03:07:06,680 --> 03:07:13,760
We just had a small or amount of money to essentially do that initial scoping so yeah, okay

2075
03:07:13,760 --> 03:07:17,540
So there is actually a net increase yes, in the

2076
03:07:19,220 --> 03:07:22,220
Okay, all right think that answers my question

2077
03:07:22,220 --> 03:07:24,890
Okay, got that any other comment from the board

2078
03:07:25,280 --> 03:07:27,780
Do we have public comments on this item?

2079
03:07:32,080 --> 03:07:38,760
Chair, thank you. We do not have any raised hands. Okay, so I have a motion in a second all those in favor signify by saying aye

2080
03:07:38,760 --> 03:07:48,060
I, I'll oppose the action passes unanimously moving on to water sheds item 6.1.

2081
03:07:48,060 --> 03:07:50,180
We have a series of these, by the way.

2082
03:07:51,100 --> 03:07:55,520
So authorized acquisition of real property interest from granite rock company for the

2083
03:07:55,520 --> 03:07:58,320
co-opocrine flood management measures project.

2084
03:07:58,560 --> 03:08:05,680
Anderson Dam Federal Energy Regulatory Commission order compliance number project 9186407

2085
03:08:05,680 --> 03:08:11,720
the APN-241-05-001-APN-241-05-001-05-001-05-001-05-001-071-05-001-05.

2086
03:08:14,620 --> 03:08:20,280
Okay, so this is an action item from the board, so we have the vanity.

2087
03:08:20,600 --> 03:08:21,900
Where are you?

2088
03:08:22,160 --> 03:08:25,680
Actually, it'll be Chief Black here reporting out.

2089
03:08:26,480 --> 03:08:29,200
Mr. Hates, you get the straw.

2090
03:08:30,060 --> 03:08:30,440
Well, sir.

2091
03:08:30,820 --> 03:08:33,660
But vanity is currently in India, so since this is Amberson,

2092
03:08:33,660 --> 03:08:37,400
related, I'll feel free to go to the step-up place, the cheap blank and also fill in some

2093
03:08:37,400 --> 03:08:37,680
legap.

2094
03:08:37,800 --> 03:08:43,300
So, this is an acquisition that's currently needed for the Coyote Creek Flood Mitigation

2095
03:08:43,300 --> 03:08:47,980
Measures Project, which is a component of the FERC Ordered Compliance Project, which is

2096
03:08:47,980 --> 03:08:53,340
our February 20th Ordered Project by the under emergency mandate by the Federal Energy

2097
03:08:53,340 --> 03:08:55,940
Regulatory Commission for any board members that may be unaware.

2098
03:08:56,300 --> 03:08:59,980
So, this is a property acquisition required in order to complete the project.

2099
03:09:00,740 --> 03:09:04,860
We do have staff available for specific questions about the negotiations if they are any.

2100
03:09:05,100 --> 03:09:06,880
Otherwise I won't leave it to the board for discussion.

2101
03:09:07,340 --> 03:09:07,640
Very good.

2102
03:09:07,680 --> 03:09:08,740
Thank you very much.

2103
03:09:09,460 --> 03:09:11,240
I have a motion and a second.

2104
03:09:12,320 --> 03:09:13,200
Board discussion.

2105
03:09:14,380 --> 03:09:15,180
Public comment.

2106
03:09:15,560 --> 03:09:16,280
On this item.

2107
03:09:16,460 --> 03:09:17,840
Go public comment at this time.

2108
03:09:18,140 --> 03:09:18,360
Okay.

2109
03:09:18,520 --> 03:09:20,460
So we have a motion and a second to move this forward.

2110
03:09:20,840 --> 03:09:22,680
All in favor signified by saying aye.

2111
03:09:23,380 --> 03:09:23,960
All opposed.

2112
03:09:24,480 --> 03:09:26,040
That passes again unanimously.

2113
03:09:26,380 --> 03:09:27,700
Well, you guys are on a roll.

2114
03:09:30,840 --> 03:09:31,140
Okay.

2115
03:09:33,440 --> 03:09:38,040
Moving on, somewhere here, 6.2.

2116
03:09:38,640 --> 03:09:42,220
All right, another, I'm not going to read it all, but it's to approve the amendment number

2117
03:09:42,220 --> 03:09:46,820
3b to agreement number 3, 4, 8, 4, 2, 3, 6, 3, with Klein-Feldir Inc.

2118
03:09:47,060 --> 03:09:51,600
for on called you technical engineering services to increase the not to exceed

2119
03:09:51,600 --> 03:09:56,360
fee of 1 million result in the total not to exceed fee of 2, made in 750,000

2120
03:09:56,360 --> 03:09:59,440
2,000 to items in action, who have a motion.

2121
03:10:00,560 --> 03:10:10,880
I have a motion and a second. Board discussion, direct a swerve or wait a minute. Do you just direct, I some very

2122
03:10:10,880 --> 03:10:11,140
curious.

2123
03:10:13,000 --> 03:10:20,720
My name is a question. So, you know, sometimes with the on-call services, sometimes we use third-party

2124
03:10:20,720 --> 03:10:26,620
services that aren't unionized. We do have a union, you know, a trade agreement, you know, clearly,

2125
03:10:26,620 --> 03:10:33,460
but sometimes there are exceptions to this, I just would like to know if this third party is

2126
03:10:33,460 --> 03:10:38,820
provides a unionized flavor, and if not if we start out unionized labor for that.

2127
03:10:39,200 --> 03:10:43,980
So the on-call agreement is actually with two separate consultant firms. So basically these are

2128
03:10:43,980 --> 03:10:50,440
designers in the private industry who are not unionized typically. It's something that we generally

2129
03:10:50,440 --> 03:10:56,300
don't run across if it's not a construction trade. So this is the augment staff's abilities to

2130
03:10:56,300 --> 03:11:01,220
work in a short basis, but I do not believe either a company is unionized.

2131
03:11:04,480 --> 03:11:06,120
Did we look for unionized labor?

2132
03:11:07,020 --> 03:11:11,060
We have our typical process, which we do a consultant selection where we reach out.

2133
03:11:11,400 --> 03:11:14,280
I do not believe that unionization is a requirement.

2134
03:11:14,940 --> 03:11:16,660
It may be something that is considered.

2135
03:11:17,320 --> 03:11:22,940
I would have to defer to Tina Yoke as to our selection process in the waiting of any unionization.

2136
03:11:24,100 --> 03:11:24,920
Thank you very much.

2137
03:11:24,920 --> 03:11:27,780
Tina Yoke, Chief Operating Officer, Administrative Services,

2138
03:11:28,260 --> 03:11:30,860
went through a competitive bid process initially.

2139
03:11:31,480 --> 03:11:35,900
And no, we do not require unions as part

2140
03:11:35,900 --> 03:11:39,540
of the selection criteria for a contract award.

2141
03:11:40,960 --> 03:11:43,420
That's not in our union contract.

2142
03:11:47,150 --> 03:11:52,030
For projects, for projects that fall under

2143
03:11:52,030 --> 03:11:55,770
are newly approved policy approved

2144
03:11:55,770 --> 03:12:01,530
project labor agreement of $2 million in above, you know, those are new projects under that

2145
03:12:01,530 --> 03:12:08,910
criteria that we'll have a project labor agreement component to that. We're talking about

2146
03:12:08,910 --> 03:12:12,130
a prior pre-existing contract.

2147
03:12:14,350 --> 03:12:19,510
Yes, take a proof something new. I have a comment to help answer your

2148
03:12:20,170 --> 03:12:22,690
assistant to CEO Melanie Richardson?

2149
03:12:26,420 --> 03:12:28,160
Yes, thank you, Chair Vorella.

2150
03:12:29,060 --> 03:12:32,040
I was just going to add that these are professional services,

2151
03:12:32,700 --> 03:12:34,100
engineering, professional services,

2152
03:12:34,960 --> 03:12:37,820
not in a labor type trades for construction,

2153
03:12:38,200 --> 03:12:42,520
and they require qualifications based selection

2154
03:12:42,520 --> 03:12:44,340
through our process that we have.

2155
03:12:44,640 --> 03:12:46,760
And so it's different than a construction trades.

2156
03:12:47,060 --> 03:12:50,040
And I think Miss Yoke would be willing to sit down

2157
03:12:50,040 --> 03:12:54,940
talk you through that? Yes. He would like more info, but yes, this is a typical process, not just

2158
03:12:54,940 --> 03:13:01,380
of our agencies, but all agencies that do this type of work. Yes, so. Okay.

2159
03:13:05,660 --> 03:13:07,660
I'll just concur with

2160
03:13:07,660 --> 03:13:15,440
what Ms. Richardson said. I've done lots of consulting contracts. Why did some here? City of

2161
03:13:15,440 --> 03:13:20,680
and these are not typically things where the workers are unionized.

2162
03:13:21,180 --> 03:13:23,580
And it is a different kind of situation.

2163
03:13:23,880 --> 03:13:28,980
And I will say that I think that our staff is very diligent in trying

2164
03:13:28,980 --> 03:13:34,000
to make sure that we hire unionized workers wherever and whenever it's appropriate.

2165
03:13:35,520 --> 03:13:36,500
We're very proud of you.

2166
03:13:36,500 --> 03:13:37,160
Great to hear.

2167
03:13:37,540 --> 03:13:39,840
So do I have a motion and a second to approve this item?

2168
03:13:40,120 --> 03:13:40,360
Item assembly?

2169
03:13:41,980 --> 03:13:42,360
I do.

2170
03:13:43,240 --> 03:13:43,680
We'll give it.

2171
03:13:43,860 --> 03:13:45,420
We'll give it.

2172
03:13:45,420 --> 03:13:49,920
You have Mr. Chair, you have a motion by Director Santos and a second by Dr. Shield.

2173
03:13:49,920 --> 03:13:52,280
I knew that. Thank you very much.

2174
03:13:52,840 --> 03:13:57,080
Okay, so all those in favor of signify by saying aye, aye, all opposed?

2175
03:13:57,820 --> 03:14:00,120
That motion passes again.

2176
03:14:03,180 --> 03:14:09,140
7.2 authorized acquisition of real property, the interest of Rebecca Grace Watkins at the

2177
03:14:09,140 --> 03:14:14,380
How Tann Lee Atal, for the Anderson Dam Tunnel Project, as part of the Federal Energy

2178
03:14:14,380 --> 03:14:18,700
regulatory commission order compliance project under the Anderson Dam

2179
03:14:18,700 --> 03:14:23,320
size of Metro Fit project with all those numbers. This is an action item.

2180
03:14:23,320 --> 03:14:28,140
I have a motion and a second. For discussion.

2181
03:14:30,590 --> 03:14:32,690
Mr. Chair, I'm sorry. I'm

2182
03:14:32,690 --> 03:14:36,750
you said 7.2. I want to make sure we're really on 7.1 correct.

2183
03:14:38,170 --> 03:14:40,310
I just am just the same name. It's different parts.

2184
03:14:40,610 --> 03:14:44,270
I just we just finished 7.1. I had 6.2.

2185
03:14:47,850 --> 03:14:55,750
We did, okay, I beg you for another one 7.1, okay same motion. Okay same motion

2186
03:14:55,750 --> 03:14:59,970
All those of you ever signify by saying aye aye aye that motion passes thank you

2187
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:09,060
Thank you for corrected me. 7.2. I have a motion in the second board discussion. Public comment.

2188
03:15:10,160 --> 03:15:11,320
We have no public comment.

2189
03:15:11,960 --> 03:15:20,420
Okay, that's an action item. All those in favor signify by saying aye, aye, that motion also passes. Thank you very much.

2190
03:15:20,420 --> 03:15:22,980
Now we go to item 7.3.

2191
03:15:25,360 --> 03:15:26,960
I've got a motion and a second.

2192
03:15:28,020 --> 03:15:28,820
It's okay.

2193
03:15:29,240 --> 03:15:30,280
Any board discussion?

2194
03:15:32,240 --> 03:15:32,940
Public comment?

2195
03:15:33,340 --> 03:15:34,860
We have no public comment at this time.

2196
03:15:35,100 --> 03:15:35,960
Okay, action item.

2197
03:15:36,180 --> 03:15:36,640
All those in favor.

2198
03:15:36,800 --> 03:15:38,700
On 7.3, signify by saying aye.

2199
03:15:39,460 --> 03:15:40,040
All opposed.

2200
03:15:40,680 --> 03:15:41,980
That item passes also.

2201
03:15:42,160 --> 03:15:43,200
Thank you.

2202
03:15:43,380 --> 03:15:45,640
Moving on to 7.4.

2203
03:15:46,340 --> 03:15:47,800
Authorized acquisition of real property.

2204
03:15:47,800 --> 03:15:52,580
for guide to heal for the Anderson Dam project and federal energy regulatory commission everything

2205
03:15:52,580 --> 03:15:58,640
I said before. So this is a forward action. Do I have a motion?

2206
03:16:01,460 --> 03:16:03,580
Okay. Board discussion?

2207
03:16:04,560 --> 03:16:09,980
Public comment? We have no public comment at this time. Okay. Thank you. Board action. All those in favor

2208
03:16:09,980 --> 03:16:18,360
signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed that I also pass. Thank you. Moving on to external affairs.

2209
03:16:18,360 --> 03:16:25,760
Item 8.1, approve recommended 2023 legislative policy proposals and guiding principles.

2210
03:16:26,680 --> 03:16:32,420
This is also a board action. Do you have a report out? Mr. Broom is in the house.

2211
03:16:33,120 --> 03:16:36,020
My God, did you write on your broom to get down here, by the way?

2212
03:16:36,240 --> 03:16:41,080
Oh, absolutely. I always bring it with me. This is our Sacramento representative for those of you

2213
03:16:41,080 --> 03:16:42,860
with new board members. Welcome.

2214
03:16:45,940 --> 03:16:47,520
Thank you, Chair Pro Ten members of the board.

2215
03:16:47,520 --> 03:16:52,940
Bart Brum is assistant officer in our Sacramento office is going to leave the presentation on this item if the board desires

2216
03:16:52,940 --> 03:16:58,520
Yeah, you got five minutes or less. Okay. You can keep it to that. I will talk fast

2217
03:16:59,420 --> 03:17:06,520
Before you are the proposed 2023 legislative policy proposals in guiding principles for the office of government relations

2218
03:17:06,520 --> 03:17:15,480
The board annually reviews and adopts proposals and principles that direct staff advocacy at the local state and federal levels

2219
03:17:15,480 --> 03:17:21,820
They are developed through a process that collects input from staff, senior management, and the board itself.

2220
03:17:23,080 --> 03:17:30,720
Attachment 1 begins with approximately 80 guiding principles, changes from last year's principles are highlighted in red.

2221
03:17:31,720 --> 03:17:38,400
We understand a concern was raised about a principle regarding endowments on page 4.

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03:17:38,400 --> 03:17:46,000
staff proposes that item C2 at the top of page 4 be deleted and restated as follows.

2223
03:17:47,080 --> 03:17:52,840
Support alternatives to endowments for public agency funding of mitigation site maintenance.

2224
03:17:54,240 --> 03:18:03,960
This would clarify that we seek alternatives only for public agency funding of mitigation sites and not to change private developer funded endowments.

2225
03:18:03,960 --> 03:18:08,340
Other changes to the principles are as noted in the document.

2226
03:18:09,440 --> 03:18:13,960
At the state level, staff recommends two proposals for

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03:18:14,560 --> 03:18:19,280
Valley Water Sponsored Legislation and three proposals for state bills

2228
03:18:19,280 --> 03:18:21,700
to be sponsored by statewide organizations.

2229
03:18:22,760 --> 03:18:27,400
On page 7, the attachment is a description of the first bill proposed

2230
03:18:27,400 --> 03:18:29,060
by Valley Water Sponsorship.

2231
03:18:29,060 --> 03:18:36,000
that's the District Act Reform legislation, which would update financing mechanisms to reduce

2232
03:18:36,000 --> 03:18:42,740
the cost of borrowing, modernized, antiquated language, and renew a sunsetting provision

2233
03:18:42,740 --> 03:18:44,740
related to board member Pradeem.

2234
03:18:46,180 --> 03:18:54,400
Staff has heard the board discussion, not only in our discussions with Director Bell prior

2235
03:18:54,400 --> 03:19:00,140
to this meeting about the interest in seeking changes to the District Act to allow us more

2236
03:19:00,140 --> 03:19:06,740
flexibility to address the human, the human and environmental disaster of unhousing

2237
03:19:06,740 --> 03:19:13,120
cabinets on our property. Government relations is already in discussions with District

2238
03:19:13,120 --> 03:19:21,840
Council on the issue. However, we face challenges in this effort. We may not have a lawful

2239
03:19:21,840 --> 03:19:25,200
funding source to expand into human services.

2240
03:19:26,220 --> 03:19:31,960
State funds aren't directed directly available to independent special districts, and that's

2241
03:19:31,960 --> 03:19:36,200
something that we're actually seeking to change through budget language, and I'll get

2242
03:19:36,200 --> 03:19:37,640
to that later in my presentation.

2243
03:19:38,940 --> 03:19:44,800
Also, in 2017, the Board approved and we pursued legislation that would actually modify

2244
03:19:44,800 --> 03:19:54,480
the Mission of the District Act to include an ability to address encampments, and it didn't

2245
03:19:54,480 --> 03:19:59,140
get out of its first committee, and the reason was that the committee raised concerns.

2246
03:20:00,000 --> 03:20:29,980
We're first, there was duplication of services. Mission creep, which is something that they've cited repeatedly, and then that we were seeking police powers that would be inappropriate for a special district. After that experience in looking back at that, my recommendation would be that if we pursue this, that we would pursue it in a very narrow scope of precisely what would we do in regard to this.

2247
03:20:30,000 --> 03:20:36,820
this and, you know, we're in discussions again with district council to talk about what might

2248
03:20:36,820 --> 03:20:42,040
possibly be viable in the legislature and at the same time provide real benefits in more

2249
03:20:42,040 --> 03:20:49,740
flexibility for what we can do to address the encampments of unhouse people. I'm going to proceed

2250
03:20:49,740 --> 03:20:58,780
with the rest of the description and then maybe we can take any questions. So also on page 7 is the second

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03:20:58,780 --> 03:21:03,920
bill proposed for Valley Water Sponsorship. It's the California Public Employees Retirement

2252
03:21:03,920 --> 03:21:10,660
System Classic Tier II Reform. The bill would allow the Valley Water Board to prospectively

2253
03:21:10,660 --> 03:21:18,080
apply the same pension benefit formula that applies to all Calpers Classic Employees. This

2254
03:21:18,080 --> 03:21:24,220
change will enable Valley Water to better retain experience Calpers Classic Employees and recruit

2255
03:21:24,220 --> 03:21:31,160
new classic employees by providing a benefit formula that is comparable to what is available

2256
03:21:31,160 --> 03:21:35,100
to most other public agencies in our region and across California.

2257
03:21:36,940 --> 03:21:42,260
In the agenda memo, you'll find three legislated proposals recommended for legislative

2258
03:21:42,260 --> 03:21:47,460
action through an external sponsor, so not sponsored by Valley Water, but by a membership

2259
03:21:47,460 --> 03:21:48,080
organization.

2260
03:21:48,080 --> 03:21:58,180
The first would streamline the permitting for water supply and flood risk reduction projects and will be sponsored by the association of California water agencies.

2261
03:21:59,080 --> 03:22:07,660
The second would make independent special districts eligible for grant funding through the Encampment Impact Resolution Program.

2262
03:22:07,660 --> 03:22:18,580
This is the funding for special districts that I had mentioned earlier, the California Special District's Association is seeking state budget language to do this.

2263
03:22:19,320 --> 03:22:27,080
And then the last one would be to renew local agency authorization to use design build project delivery.

2264
03:22:27,860 --> 03:22:31,240
Staff is still seeking an external sponsor for this effort.

2265
03:22:31,240 --> 03:22:55,760
At the local level, at the local level, on page six of the attachment, staff proposes to continue legislative efforts from 2022 to increase water use efficiency through updates to local ordinances and at the federal level on page 11 of the attachment there are three policy positions proposed for deletion because the issues have either been resolved or have been addressed by other needs.

2266
03:22:56,660 --> 03:23:03,100
You know, you can see there's a lot that the Office of Government Relations works on in a year.

2267
03:23:03,740 --> 03:23:12,520
We have representatives of our federal state and local program here to help answer any questions you have about any of the proposals for guiding principles.

2268
03:23:13,140 --> 03:23:15,100
And I'll ask for any questions.

2269
03:23:15,560 --> 03:23:16,340
Thank you, Mr. Bruno.

2270
03:23:16,520 --> 03:23:17,900
I was a very comprehensive report.

2271
03:23:18,480 --> 03:23:20,020
Directors have questions?

2272
03:23:23,470 --> 03:23:23,670
Aye.

2273
03:23:23,870 --> 03:23:24,350
Do I have to sway?

2274
03:23:26,570 --> 03:23:27,270
Thank you.

2275
03:23:27,270 --> 03:23:34,070
I just want to compliment staff for your foresight to include support efforts to reduce no

2276
03:23:34,070 --> 03:23:37,650
function or turn through building standards and other beats.

2277
03:23:38,010 --> 03:23:42,770
I think that's the next thing we need to focus on for the many years to come.

2278
03:23:43,590 --> 03:23:44,290
Thank you.

2279
03:23:44,330 --> 03:23:44,890
Thank you, Director.

2280
03:23:45,050 --> 03:23:46,350
Any other comments from the board?

2281
03:23:47,310 --> 03:23:47,570
Okay.

2282
03:23:47,590 --> 03:23:48,610
Any public comments?

2283
03:23:52,000 --> 03:23:53,600
I have no public comments.

2284
03:23:53,780 --> 03:23:54,020
Okay.

2285
03:23:54,260 --> 03:23:54,640
Board actually.

2286
03:23:54,660 --> 03:23:55,860
Do I have a motion to approve?

2287
03:23:56,960 --> 03:23:57,120
Pardon?

2288
03:23:57,920 --> 03:23:58,340
Oh.

2289
03:23:58,340 --> 03:24:00,800
I didn't see it there, do I care about

2290
03:24:09,990 --> 03:24:10,610
it?

2291
03:24:10,610 --> 03:24:13,790
In regards to the first of all, regards to the homeless, I don't agree with you.

2292
03:24:13,990 --> 03:24:16,250
Okay, I don't think we should be narrow. I think we should be broad.

2293
03:24:17,310 --> 03:24:20,430
I think you have to redefine what our role is on that.

2294
03:24:21,570 --> 03:24:27,710
And I think the public, my constituents, other people's constituents are saying we have to deal with that.

2295
03:24:28,710 --> 03:24:34,870
And therefore we should try to broaden our perspective and the responsive to them.

2296
03:24:34,870 --> 03:24:41,190
different things we can do. Joint powers authority is one of them. Other things we can

2297
03:24:41,190 --> 03:24:49,990
do is find other financing vehicles and we certainly should redefine and rewrite our

2298
03:24:49,990 --> 03:24:57,030
district gap that allows us to take all flexible actions we need to take. We should be

2299
03:24:57,030 --> 03:24:58,530
broader about our interpretation.

2300
03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:13,220
Because once we write the district act and is locked in, you know, the district act is our Bible that we operate under and, you know, I know how hard it is to write a chapter in the Bible.

2301
03:25:15,460 --> 03:25:27,540
So, you know, we need to write the right way as broadly as possible so that we, we have the ability to function in the way we want to function.

2302
03:25:27,540 --> 03:25:32,920
And I personally think that there's a lot of openness to that.

2303
03:25:33,000 --> 03:25:38,820
I mean, for example, the mayor of Los Angeles is declared a state of emergency on homelessness.

2304
03:25:40,060 --> 03:25:49,920
There's going to be a lot of discussion about interagency cooperation on it.

2305
03:25:49,920 --> 03:26:06,920
I already see legislation that allows housing financing and housing, and the legislation that's already written a draft, even if it's spot language, it says special districts actually, I saw that, so it actually refers to special districts.

2306
03:26:06,920 --> 03:26:07,320
So,

2307
03:26:10,330 --> 03:26:14,450
the other one I want to address is streamlining review.

2308
03:26:15,310 --> 03:26:21,430
I noticed that Senator Caballero has got a bill now.

2309
03:26:21,470 --> 03:26:22,370
It has to be 23.

2310
03:26:22,570 --> 03:26:23,430
I think it's called.

2311
03:26:23,430 --> 03:26:25,190
It's a spot bill now.

2312
03:26:25,830 --> 03:26:34,590
I would like to fill that vessel with some language that we need to maybe expedite our projects.

2313
03:26:34,670 --> 03:26:39,350
And if we can expedite projects just one or two years,

2314
03:26:39,350 --> 03:26:47,290
We're saving literally hundreds of millions of dollars for the taxpayer, so that's another

2315
03:26:47,290 --> 03:26:55,250
comment that I would like to make. I support working with the senator to achieve that.

2316
03:26:55,250 --> 03:26:58,850
I think Senator Dodd has some bills on water as well.

2317
03:27:01,670 --> 03:27:03,450
But I think the housing bills

2318
03:27:03,450 --> 03:27:06,230
should include special districts,

2319
03:27:08,430 --> 03:27:11,550
we should, we should, at the very minimum, include that

2320
03:27:11,550 --> 03:27:15,470
and then also support the bills. I mean, we should take state. We don't have a section

2321
03:27:15,470 --> 03:27:19,850
saying we should support the bills. We should, you know, there's going to be a proposal for

2322
03:27:19,850 --> 03:27:28,710
housing as Celia Aguilar Curie and Assembly has got a housing bill that mentioned special districts

2323
03:27:28,710 --> 03:27:31,170
that we should look at support.

2324
03:27:32,110 --> 03:27:38,810
There's other legislative efforts that we should support.

2325
03:27:38,810 --> 03:27:43,130
We should also support mental health bills and substance abuse bills.

2326
03:27:45,050 --> 03:27:47,230
Mr. Chairman, I think we talked about that.

2327
03:27:47,590 --> 03:27:49,950
Many of the board members may comments on that.

2328
03:27:50,330 --> 03:27:53,210
We should support increased services and

2329
03:27:56,550 --> 03:27:59,150
hospitalizations and other kinds of activities.

2330
03:27:59,150 --> 03:27:59,530
These,

2331
03:28:01,890 --> 03:28:07,510
if the board likes, I can show them my op-ed, I wrote last month in the Mercury News

2332
03:28:07,510 --> 03:28:15,550
on the deck of particular subject regarding federal and state legislation, there's a

2333
03:28:15,550 --> 03:28:22,910
federal law that says you can't have more than 16 people in a psychiatric hospital facilities

2334
03:28:22,910 --> 03:28:32,430
and receive federal Medicaid dollars, which stifles the ability of people to create these

2335
03:28:32,430 --> 03:28:40,430
medical facilities that we need desperately to put seriously mentally ill people in.

2336
03:28:40,430 --> 03:28:43,510
And I think we have to change those federal laws.

2337
03:28:45,610 --> 03:28:46,670
So those are my comments.

2338
03:28:46,670 --> 03:28:54,830
I want to see the district act change with housing included homeless actions and collaborating

2339
03:28:54,830 --> 03:28:58,710
with mental health and substance abuse programs.

2340
03:29:00,030 --> 03:29:01,910
That will achieve the goal that we have.

2341
03:29:02,310 --> 03:29:06,810
Our mission, it's not a mission creep, it's actually fulfilling our mission.

2342
03:29:06,870 --> 03:29:11,980
I don't call mission creep leaving the creeks the way they are filled with people in

2343
03:29:11,980 --> 03:29:13,480
I'm creating environmental hazard.

2344
03:29:13,740 --> 03:29:16,900
That's not our mission, permission is to deal with that problem.

2345
03:29:17,880 --> 03:29:24,820
So we need to deal with our problem, and I hope that we direct the staff to improve

2346
03:29:24,820 --> 03:29:28,760
this to correct that in the legislative report.

2347
03:29:28,900 --> 03:29:30,300
Thank you.

2348
03:29:30,580 --> 03:29:31,200
Thank you, Director.

2349
03:29:31,460 --> 03:29:32,160
We'll see you, calendar.

2350
03:29:36,390 --> 03:29:40,830
Yes, through the chair, what I did wanted to do is make sure that the policy principle

2351
03:29:40,830 --> 03:29:44,310
is, I think, dealing with housing, mental health and what you've addressed.

2352
03:29:45,050 --> 03:29:59,930
So that the board can consider what's in front of you today that we will make sure that we're prepared to bring those back on the mid January meeting which will now be either the 17th or the 18th for my understanding is so that you'll actually be able to see the language so that we're not

2353
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:04,780
Do we get on the fly, but hopefully you'll be able to consider the policy principles today, and then we'll bring

2354
03:30:04,780 --> 03:30:07,280
them back, and less than a month for future consideration.

2355
03:30:07,880 --> 03:30:08,720
Thank you.

2356
03:30:14,640 --> 03:30:15,500
Before, right?

2357
03:30:16,520 --> 03:30:21,620
The Governor's budget is expected, and not the first week of January, but the beginning

2358
03:30:21,620 --> 03:30:22,660
of the second week.

2359
03:30:25,830 --> 03:30:33,950
A report on the Governor's budget is going to be a bad budget, so we have to get the fiscal

2360
03:30:33,950 --> 03:30:41,010
reality here. So it's going to be not fun looking at that budget. Not as bad as once we

2361
03:30:41,010 --> 03:30:50,170
had 10 years ago, but they were horrible. That was a 30% cut. Yeah, they take. Thank you.

2362
03:30:50,170 --> 03:30:57,160
Do I drive some for you? Thank you. Thank you for your work. I enjoyed the presentation the other

2363
03:30:57,160 --> 03:31:04,180
day last week. I recognize what a great job. There are certain things in here that I'm personally

2364
03:31:04,180 --> 03:31:09,000
very grateful for. Now they're not coming to me. I thought I have it. I saw it and it's like,

2365
03:31:09,100 --> 03:31:15,020
yeah, exactly. I just first I want to state my agreement, which each and every word

2366
03:31:15,020 --> 03:31:20,560
just stated by Director Bell and I'm not going to repeat any of that. So just everything is

2367
03:31:20,560 --> 03:31:28,600
that I agree with. So then just a couple other things is that as to, this is actually just kind of

2368
03:31:28,600 --> 03:31:32,540
going on a little bit about what he said. So I agree that we should have a broad interpretation,

2369
03:31:32,540 --> 03:31:37,140
And you know, under the act, and but specifically I said this earlier and I still really believe

2370
03:31:37,140 --> 03:31:41,780
it from the old point of view is that I don't see how we can fulfill our mission of ensuring

2371
03:31:41,780 --> 03:31:48,500
a reliable supply of healthy clean drinking water if we don't provide temporary housing to

2372
03:31:48,500 --> 03:31:53,780
the unhoused because the unhoused is not getting, it does not have a reliable supply of healthy

2373
03:31:53,780 --> 03:31:55,880
clean drinking water, they just don't.

2374
03:31:56,740 --> 03:32:01,480
So we cannot succeed in our mission without the freedom to do those things.

2375
03:32:01,920 --> 03:32:06,480
So, also a couple of other things I noticed in here, a couple,

2376
03:32:07,500 --> 03:32:10,660
some, oh, and also in terms of what we should should advocate for.

2377
03:32:10,780 --> 03:32:13,580
I agree with Dr. Bell, everything I think we need to join in,

2378
03:32:13,600 --> 03:32:14,740
and I want to add one more.

2379
03:32:15,120 --> 03:32:19,740
I think we need to also advocate for environmentalism

2380
03:32:20,340 --> 03:32:23,900
and against oil and gas and other abilities

2381
03:32:23,900 --> 03:32:26,700
to predict rights to pollute.

2382
03:32:27,100 --> 03:32:29,620
Because the pollution we have makes our job much harder,

2383
03:32:29,620 --> 03:32:36,680
having visited treatment facilities I see that it how greatly it increases our cost to clean up all that

2384
03:32:36,680 --> 03:32:42,300
pollution in addition to the fact that's the right thing to do. You know it pollution harms us

2385
03:32:42,300 --> 03:32:46,900
We it's so much more expensive when we have to clean up the stuff that is dumped. You know out there

2386
03:32:46,900 --> 03:32:48,240
I think we all agree with that

2387
03:32:48,800 --> 03:32:50,620
There are some there okay

2388
03:32:50,620 --> 03:32:54,560
But also there were some requests here about loosening regulations and again

2389
03:32:54,560 --> 03:32:58,760
I'm opposed to loosening regulations because they make our life harder

2390
03:33:01,300 --> 03:33:08,560
But one thing that kind of pinged out at me is something about expediting removal of trees, hazardous trees.

2391
03:33:09,940 --> 03:33:14,340
It's to me that's just to Lucy Goosey, often people will call it trees. Sometimes trees are hazardous.

2392
03:33:15,580 --> 03:33:19,080
But all the times they're just called hazardous. And they're removed.

2393
03:33:19,320 --> 03:33:25,040
And I know that all of us in science says that we cannot replace mature trees.

2394
03:33:25,040 --> 03:33:28,900
like mature trees are actually non-replaceable.

2395
03:33:29,140 --> 03:33:31,780
We could plant a million baby trees

2396
03:33:31,780 --> 03:33:33,660
if we take down an ancient tree,

2397
03:33:34,180 --> 03:33:37,420
but it will never serve the good within our lifetimes

2398
03:33:37,420 --> 03:33:39,720
or for a thousand years,

2399
03:33:40,080 --> 03:33:42,040
it won't do the job of an ancient tree.

2400
03:33:42,640 --> 03:33:45,480
So I think we need to be very clear

2401
03:33:45,480 --> 03:33:48,040
that we are not in favor of removing trees

2402
03:33:48,040 --> 03:33:49,980
unless we absolutely have to,

2403
03:33:50,280 --> 03:33:51,640
because when we remove trees,

2404
03:33:51,860 --> 03:33:53,560
we make it harder for us to succeed.

2405
03:33:53,560 --> 03:33:58,260
And we want to succeed, you know, I visit the treatment plants, they're cleaning up

2406
03:33:58,260 --> 03:34:05,360
yuck, trees, health, earth, and instead of loosening regulations, maybe we could ask for

2407
03:34:05,360 --> 03:34:05,700
funding.

2408
03:34:06,440 --> 03:34:12,560
I get that the budget is going to be difficult, but it used to be that we had read an $80 billion

2409
03:34:12,560 --> 03:34:16,760
surplus, and now we have like $20 billion in the red.

2410
03:34:16,920 --> 03:34:20,220
I mean, there is a lot of flexibility there.

2411
03:34:20,220 --> 03:34:25,440
You can't convince me otherwise, and we need how we need money, we need grants.

2412
03:34:25,800 --> 03:34:35,580
Loans are nice, grants are better, and I think we should be aggressive about money in grants to us,

2413
03:34:36,300 --> 03:34:43,180
so we can succeed in all of our missions, protecting our planet and providing water, and loosening regulations.

2414
03:34:43,800 --> 03:34:47,300
I fear that's going to really make things harder. Thank you.

2415
03:34:47,300 --> 03:34:51,060
Thank you. Thank you Director Dr. Smera.

2416
03:34:54,450 --> 03:34:59,970
Thank you. That was why I was talking about having our session.

2417
03:35:00,000 --> 03:35:10,060
So that we could talk a little bit more in detail about exactly what it is that we're trying to do with respect to homeless and how we can help and so on.

2418
03:35:11,060 --> 03:35:19,440
And so I think we could take care of the wording of some of this and we'll respect to the policy.

2419
03:35:19,940 --> 03:35:25,480
I think we're going to adopt what we have today with the understanding that we have our session.

2420
03:35:25,480 --> 03:35:31,620
and we're of course I'm gonna improve what we've got today I think what we've got today is it's pretty good

2421
03:35:32,240 --> 03:35:38,540
But I agree that you know we can we can certainly improve it when we when we meet in January

2422
03:35:39,160 --> 03:35:45,460
So I'd approve I'd move to approve it we have again with the understanding that in in

2423
03:35:45,460 --> 03:35:49,580
January after our session we'll have more more to add

2424
03:35:51,300 --> 03:35:54,900
Got a problem. That's worth that's how it works. Yeah. Thank you director

2425
03:35:55,480 --> 03:35:58,380
Director Keegan, you have the last words for the Board at this point?

2426
03:35:58,960 --> 03:36:04,900
Okay, just since we're being expansive and looking at stuff a little bit in the future,

2427
03:36:06,100 --> 03:36:10,580
some cities provide more than their fair share of housing and some cities do not,

2428
03:36:10,900 --> 03:36:18,360
and I really think that we should support legislation that helps to correct either the jobs,

2429
03:36:18,460 --> 03:36:24,120
housing imbalance or engage in regional sales tax sharing or other things of that nature,

2430
03:36:24,120 --> 03:36:28,280
because certain cities are not doing their fair share

2431
03:36:28,280 --> 03:36:31,480
and it exacerbates things like the homeless problem

2432
03:36:31,480 --> 03:36:39,220
or even the fact that more residential kinds of cities

2433
03:36:39,220 --> 03:36:42,560
aren't able to provide the services for their residents

2434
03:36:42,560 --> 03:36:45,300
as much as those cities that have a very large business

2435
03:36:45,300 --> 03:36:45,860
presence.

2436
03:36:46,180 --> 03:36:47,560
That's it.

2437
03:36:47,860 --> 03:36:48,460
Thank you, Director.

2438
03:36:48,580 --> 03:36:49,920
You're going to appreciate that.

2439
03:36:50,200 --> 03:36:51,340
That's all for discussion.

2440
03:36:51,460 --> 03:36:53,340
Do we have a public comment on that?

2441
03:36:54,800 --> 03:36:57,200
Thank you, Mr. Chair. We have no public common in these things.

2442
03:36:57,460 --> 03:36:58,980
Okay, so this is an action item.

2443
03:36:59,700 --> 03:37:01,540
I have a motion from Tony.

2444
03:37:01,780 --> 03:37:04,340
Director Estimera and a second by Director Eisenberg.

2445
03:37:05,340 --> 03:37:07,340
All those in favor signify by saying aye.

2446
03:37:07,700 --> 03:37:08,880
Aye. All the pose.

2447
03:37:09,520 --> 03:37:11,060
That motion passes.

2448
03:37:12,020 --> 03:37:13,040
Thank you very much.

2449
03:37:13,180 --> 03:37:14,160
Thank you very much.

2450
03:37:14,840 --> 03:37:18,480
And that's the last item that we're going to be voting on tonight.

2451
03:37:18,600 --> 03:37:20,940
So the next from Chief Executive Officer.

2452
03:37:22,000 --> 03:37:28,920
9.1, receive an overview of the fiscal year 2023-24 rolling by annual budget process.

2453
03:37:30,690 --> 03:37:33,850
Mr. Taylor, oh,

2454
03:37:42,300 --> 03:37:43,000
who is that, Mr.

2455
03:37:44,280 --> 03:37:49,140
Good afternoon, I'm going to take it down the budget manager for value water and now we

2456
03:37:49,140 --> 03:37:52,960
provide you with an overview of the fiscal year 2024 rolling by annual budget process.

2457
03:37:53,280 --> 03:37:56,980
The purpose of this presentation is for you the board to receive a high level overview

2458
03:37:56,980 --> 03:38:02,260
planning process and at the same time for you the board to provide any feedback as we work

2459
03:38:02,260 --> 03:38:08,760
through the process itself. I will be going over the financial process where I will touch

2460
03:38:08,760 --> 03:38:15,100
and governance policies, the financial planning process as we develop the by annual budget and

2461
03:38:15,100 --> 03:38:21,240
also highlight a few delivery key dates. Next I'll speak to the themes such as a drought, inflationary

2462
03:38:21,240 --> 03:38:26,020
pressures, and the possibility of a recession that may affect the financial development of the

2463
03:38:26,760 --> 03:38:32,180
This will be followed by a high-level review of the inputs that are assumed as part of the first stage,

2464
03:38:32,220 --> 03:38:39,680
as part of the first pass of the budget, and will review the boardwork, plans strategies that are considered as part of the budget development process.

2465
03:38:40,480 --> 03:38:43,400
I will include a presentation by reviewing what the next steps are.

2466
03:38:48,080 --> 03:38:55,100
So, until the next slide, the district develops the Bionneau budget in five-year capital improvement program to allocate public funds,

2467
03:38:55,100 --> 03:39:01,200
necessary to provide silicon valley with safe clean water. The development of the budget and the

2468
03:39:01,200 --> 03:39:06,660
capital improvement program are accomplished in an open and transparent process into the guidance

2469
03:39:06,660 --> 03:39:11,960
of the board, and we also provide opportunity for public input. The district's financial

2470
03:39:11,960 --> 03:39:18,040
processes are governed by the district that section 13 for taxation, section 20 for the adoption

2471
03:39:18,040 --> 03:39:23,960
of the budget, section 26 for the levee and collection of water charges, and the board of governance

2472
03:39:23,960 --> 03:39:30,400
policies EL4 guide the financial management, the planning, the budgeting, and ongoing financial

2473
03:39:30,400 --> 03:39:30,860
activities.

2474
03:39:32,020 --> 03:39:37,600
The district's financial processes comply with all applicable laws, regulations, and any

2475
03:39:37,600 --> 03:39:39,860
policies at state level.

2476
03:39:42,330 --> 03:39:48,010
In terms of high-level financial view of the planning process, it all begins back in the

2477
03:39:48,010 --> 03:39:50,290
month of August and it works its way through the month of June.

2478
03:39:50,910 --> 03:39:54,790
Over the past couple of months, staff has been very busy working on updating the long-term

2479
03:39:54,790 --> 03:39:59,970
forecast on the CIP. We're now in the middle of the budget and come to

2480
03:40:00,000 --> 03:40:14,360
January will be running three processes side by side. We'll have the budget groundwater production charges, the CIP process and also the budget process. And we think of all together to make sure that we don't develop any funding gaps as we put them all together to bring to the board.

2481
03:40:17,580 --> 03:40:28,980
In terms of proposed key dates that affect these processes, there's one on this slide. For the operating capital budget, on January 24th, we're scheduled to bring you the first possible budget update.

2482
03:40:28,980 --> 03:40:33,840
Of March 14th, we'll bring you the second pass, which will be more detailed in nature.

2483
03:40:34,800 --> 03:40:41,600
We'll include and provide you with any new positions or and or any input that you provide after the first pass budget.

2484
03:40:42,880 --> 03:40:53,540
Lastly, on April 26th, we will have our board budget or study sessions and those are very detailed in nature, so we'll review the decision by the decision.

2485
03:40:53,540 --> 03:41:10,380
On January 10th, we will bring forth a preliminary groundwater charge analysis and also the CIP so that the board may see and discuss the CIP and also the right analysis that is affected by all the funding decisions that you make.

2486
03:41:10,780 --> 03:41:15,620
On April 11th to the 25th, you'll have the public hearing schedule.

2487
03:41:15,620 --> 03:41:21,900
In terms of the CIP for February 21st, the draft CIP will be brought to the board for approval.

2488
03:41:22,820 --> 03:41:26,520
And then we kick off the 16-day review process with the local cities.

2489
03:41:27,340 --> 03:41:31,660
On April 11th, we have the public hearings on the CIP and that's when they begin.

2490
03:41:32,760 --> 03:41:39,880
Also, as part of each summary cycle, each summary cycle may be different as you may recall during the COVID-19 happened.

2491
03:41:39,880 --> 03:41:45,720
So we can obviously include more check-ins with the board or adjust the schedule as necessary.

2492
03:41:50,180 --> 03:41:55,360
And in terms of major budget themes, the continuing drought, increasing inflation,

2493
03:41:56,240 --> 03:41:59,360
and the possible recession are affecting the development of our budget.

2494
03:41:59,980 --> 03:42:05,100
On the water utility side, we expect short-term pressures on water rates due to the drought,

2495
03:42:05,940 --> 03:42:10,240
and long-term pressures due to increasing capital project causes we've discussed.

2496
03:42:10,240 --> 03:42:20,000
As planned, last fiscal year, we also plan to draw on the fiscal year 24 reserves to help us minimize the impact of the rate increases.

2497
03:42:20,880 --> 03:42:28,120
For the watershed's extreme stewardship fund, we anticipate the need to prioritize projects due to the inflation of capital projects.

2498
03:42:28,720 --> 03:42:35,840
While also being aware that we may have a potential recession that may affect property taxes, which is a primary source of revenue for this fund.

2499
03:42:36,600 --> 03:42:41,120
Lastly, for the safety and water fund, we also anticipate the need to prioritize capital

2500
03:42:41,120 --> 03:42:46,120
projects in order to address inflationary pressures or affecting the projects themselves.

2501
03:42:50,000 --> 03:42:54,840
So a high level overview of the major inputs to the budget, we are maintaining the fiscal

2502
03:42:54,840 --> 03:42:59,940
year 23 authorized positions in our budget, and also assuming the fiscal year 24 plan

2503
03:42:59,940 --> 03:43:00,440
positions.

2504
03:43:01,000 --> 03:43:04,820
That being said, the fiscal year 24 plan positions, if I'm going to be reviewed with

2505
03:43:04,820 --> 03:43:09,940
CEO and the final recommendation will be brought to the board in the second pass after the first

2506
03:43:09,940 --> 03:43:10,640
pass.

2507
03:43:11,180 --> 03:43:17,020
So I'll reason benefits assume the approved labor contracts and we're also ensuring that the

2508
03:43:17,020 --> 03:43:20,420
supplies and services requests are aligned with the board priorities.

2509
03:43:21,460 --> 03:43:27,300
Lastly, the proposed budget for capital projects will be based on the fiscal year 24 to 28

2510
03:43:27,300 --> 03:43:31,820
five year CIP program and those will be discussed on January 10th.

2511
03:43:34,700 --> 03:43:43,580
In terms of the board work plan strategies, we have the board strategies that were developed for fiscal year 23, including as part of the development of the first pass.

2512
03:43:44,160 --> 03:43:48,620
The second pass will reflect any new or revised strategies that board made the right.

2513
03:43:49,420 --> 03:43:54,580
Any new board direction before the end of January would be incorporated as part of the second pass budget.

2514
03:43:58,990 --> 03:44:05,430
In conclusion, the next test would be to incorporate any new board work plan strategies or direction that you provide to ourselves.

2515
03:44:05,430 --> 03:44:10,670
And we'll execute on the touch points or the touch point dates that I've highlighted on the prior slide.

2516
03:44:11,350 --> 03:44:16,950
And with that I'm ready to answer any questions that the board may have or address any direction that you do provide.

2517
03:44:17,630 --> 03:44:18,390
Thank you.

2518
03:44:18,510 --> 03:44:20,390
Thank you for your report, Director Eisenberg.

2519
03:44:22,190 --> 03:44:23,190
Thank you so much for this.

2520
03:44:23,190 --> 03:44:25,430
And I know that we're going to continue to discuss this.

2521
03:44:25,510 --> 03:44:29,090
So this isn't any sort of, you know, conclusion there or whatever.

2522
03:44:29,530 --> 03:44:32,710
And that we're going to work on this together, you know, as a group.

2523
03:44:32,710 --> 03:44:35,890
So my question is, I didn't really realize

2524
03:44:35,890 --> 03:44:40,230
that we have taxation power, which it looks like we have.

2525
03:44:41,350 --> 03:44:42,290
So exciting.

2526
03:44:43,610 --> 03:44:46,050
So my question is, do we have a working group

2527
03:44:46,050 --> 03:44:51,250
or a committee who can discuss appropriate uses of taxation?

2528
03:44:51,510 --> 03:44:56,810
And by that, I mean, passively taxing the biggest polluters

2529
03:44:56,810 --> 03:44:59,150
to the extent they, and else I mean

2530
03:44:59,150 --> 03:44:59,970
in a pro-gressive.

2531
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:10,140
In a way, not a regressive way. You know, the biggest polluter is like Cisco. You know, they could be taxed differently from if it's neighborhood mom and pop shop.

2532
03:45:10,200 --> 03:45:28,460
You know, that kind of thing, as well as taxing water abusers, that kind of thing. So I think there might be some good ability to pay for the remediation of of the market externalities. That way. I love tax. Thank you.

2533
03:45:28,460 --> 03:45:30,160
when it's done right.

2534
03:45:30,160 --> 03:45:39,300
Question to be asked if there is a group called the financial sustainability working group

2535
03:45:39,300 --> 03:45:46,120
that does meet on an ad hoc basis to discuss issues like pursuing alternative revenue

2536
03:45:46,120 --> 03:45:51,380
sources and things like that and this could be a topic that the financial sustainability

2537
03:45:51,380 --> 03:45:56,440
working group could pursue and discuss at an upcoming meeting.

2538
03:45:57,480 --> 03:46:00,720
How do you fantastic and I love information about it?

2539
03:46:01,220 --> 03:46:02,860
Yeah, I mean more money is good.

2540
03:46:02,860 --> 03:46:04,440
Good, good, good, good.

2541
03:46:04,440 --> 03:46:04,920
You have to swear.

2542
03:46:06,980 --> 03:46:08,200
Thank you, Chair.

2543
03:46:10,660 --> 03:46:12,000
This is my answer.

2544
03:46:12,580 --> 03:46:13,420
It's so request.

2545
03:46:14,100 --> 03:46:16,920
I'm bringing everybody down to the implementation level.

2546
03:46:18,100 --> 03:46:23,620
So we're starting the second year of this two year rolling budget.

2547
03:46:23,620 --> 03:46:42,420
And the idea that our hat, we started a year ago, that for this two year budget, is so that it's a more efficient process that our planning for two years simultaneously instead of to plan one every year.

2548
03:46:42,420 --> 03:46:51,820
So, with what we're facing today, recession, inflation, and all the issues, and then likely

2549
03:46:52,420 --> 03:47:03,100
make your changes in CIP and then financial resources, reallocation to various projects.

2550
03:47:03,480 --> 03:47:07,960
And I don't even know what are the impact on the operations side.

2551
03:47:07,960 --> 03:47:15,140
So my request is that staff to come back to the board later.

2552
03:47:15,600 --> 03:47:16,960
All the process is complete.

2553
03:47:17,500 --> 03:47:19,800
Maybe July, August, time turned.

2554
03:47:20,120 --> 03:47:20,640
Not now.

2555
03:47:21,220 --> 03:47:22,180
Everybody's busy.

2556
03:47:22,860 --> 03:47:25,660
Maybe at the beginning of the next fiscal year.

2557
03:47:25,760 --> 03:47:31,100
Just lessons learned that just this two year planning process work.

2558
03:47:31,220 --> 03:47:35,760
Or it's basically the same thing as we're planning every year.

2559
03:47:35,760 --> 03:47:38,060
So, that's the request.

2560
03:47:38,880 --> 03:47:40,180
It's a good question, good comment.

2561
03:47:40,920 --> 03:47:41,520
Good to be all.

2562
03:47:45,340 --> 03:47:45,940
Budgeting?

2563
03:47:46,400 --> 03:47:47,000
Budgeting?

2564
03:47:47,020 --> 03:47:48,160
Can you hear me?

2565
03:47:49,220 --> 03:47:50,260
Okay, I'll turn that off.

2566
03:47:51,760 --> 03:47:53,020
With regard to capital budgeting,

2567
03:47:53,260 --> 03:47:57,100
I'd like to see total project cost.

2568
03:47:57,460 --> 03:47:59,880
Okay, what I mean is how much money was spent?

2569
03:48:00,060 --> 03:48:04,420
The previous year is how much money was spent in the current fiscal year

2570
03:48:04,420 --> 03:48:08,680
and then the five-year, during the five-year CIP,

2571
03:48:09,040 --> 03:48:11,400
and then beyond the five-year CIP.

2572
03:48:11,720 --> 03:48:17,380
So I get a good feel for how much money am I spending on this?

2573
03:48:17,660 --> 03:48:20,420
And what I mean by that also is the categories

2574
03:48:20,420 --> 03:48:25,760
of spending acquisition, planning, engineering,

2575
03:48:26,800 --> 03:48:27,340
construction.

2576
03:48:28,300 --> 03:48:31,820
So I get a real good idea of the total cost of a project.

2577
03:48:31,820 --> 03:48:37,540
Now I can get a handle on, you know, is this an effective investment, okay?

2578
03:48:39,380 --> 03:48:42,200
I'm interested in unfunded liabilities.

2579
03:48:43,440 --> 03:48:44,820
They can be personal liabilities.

2580
03:48:44,820 --> 03:48:56,640
So they could be equipment, physical facilities, you know, you know, what needs to be fixed.

2581
03:48:56,960 --> 03:49:00,280
I mean, what I'm always, I'm kind of a,

2582
03:49:00,280 --> 03:49:04,580
I've been, I've always traditionally affix it for a savacate.

2583
03:49:05,420 --> 03:49:08,240
I want to know what your liabilities are out there.

2584
03:49:09,920 --> 03:49:13,420
I don't know, this building looks nice, but I don't know.

2585
03:49:13,820 --> 03:49:19,540
I have some other buildings that need to be, you know, like it's time,

2586
03:49:20,280 --> 03:49:25,500
or any of the treatment facilities or other facilities that we have,

2587
03:49:26,100 --> 03:49:28,200
pipelines, other kinds of things.

2588
03:49:28,200 --> 03:49:35,820
what's on the list, what do you see down the road that we need to start planning on,

2589
03:49:35,840 --> 03:49:39,400
chopping away at the unfunded liabilities.

2590
03:49:41,440 --> 03:49:47,120
And then the last thing would be if you have

2591
03:49:47,120 --> 03:49:53,820
that list and other things, what are the unfunded list of things that we have on our list

2592
03:50:00,000 --> 03:50:07,420
Sometimes you got to look at what's not in the budget. You know, what's the unfunded stuff?

2593
03:50:10,200 --> 03:50:11,880
You know, in terms of our mission.

2594
03:50:12,220 --> 03:50:25,140
You know, what are we doing? So I'm interested in those are my informational kind of things that I use to make a judgment when I look at budgets.

2595
03:50:25,140 --> 03:50:32,640
I also mentioned earlier in the meeting that I'd like to do community forums and stuff like that.

2596
03:50:32,640 --> 03:50:37,380
I think I'd like to do one on the budget, just to see what kind of reaction I get.

2597
03:50:37,640 --> 03:50:49,280
Maybe go to a community center and invite public and have a discussion on the whole issue of the water district.

2598
03:50:49,280 --> 03:50:52,280
I think that's really good thing to do.

2599
03:50:53,200 --> 03:50:57,620
I used to annually do a pancake breakfast,

2600
03:50:58,580 --> 03:51:01,340
and I'd always invite like the superintendent of schools

2601
03:51:01,340 --> 03:51:03,480
or some other official.

2602
03:51:04,900 --> 03:51:08,220
We've had various legislators come and speak,

2603
03:51:08,640 --> 03:51:12,040
budget people, department heads, and so forth,

2604
03:51:12,140 --> 03:51:13,900
and they come and speak to the community

2605
03:51:13,900 --> 03:51:16,120
and give a little presentation,

2606
03:51:16,120 --> 03:51:22,800
and then people would enjoy it, sometimes most of people just want to hear what's going on.

2607
03:51:23,000 --> 03:51:25,340
You know, so they like to show up and hear what's going on.

2608
03:51:25,900 --> 03:51:35,380
And I think those kinds of efforts are very important for public agencies to do in terms of outreach on their budget.

2609
03:51:35,820 --> 03:51:35,820
Okay?

2610
03:51:38,360 --> 03:51:41,880
People like to be asked what they think of things.

2611
03:51:42,080 --> 03:51:46,920
You know, that's very important. They just like to be asked, maybe they don't want to have an opinion about it.

2612
03:51:47,640 --> 03:51:55,340
But, you know, you never know, you might have some 20-year-old come in, look at your

2613
03:51:55,340 --> 03:52:04,580
come to your meeting, and then 10, 15 years ago, later the 20-year-olds running the

2614
03:52:04,580 --> 03:52:05,420
water district.

2615
03:52:06,000 --> 03:52:13,920
You know, you know, I'm saying, I mean, that's literally true, it's actually happened when

2616
03:52:13,920 --> 03:52:23,280
And I had interns in my office from the university coming in as juniors at San Jose State

2617
03:52:23,280 --> 03:52:29,340
and coming in, and then later becoming the city manager of San Jose, for example,

2618
03:52:29,720 --> 03:52:31,780
Noberto Doña, so he'll give me his name.

2619
03:52:32,760 --> 03:52:38,460
So you know, you stimulate these people by going out, having the community meetings and

2620
03:52:38,460 --> 03:52:45,520
encouraging, you know, an interest in, you know, we always have to stimulate people's interest

2621
03:52:45,520 --> 03:52:51,540
in what the agency is doing because that's, you know, that's really our best recruitment

2622
03:52:51,540 --> 03:53:01,540
tool for staff. People that become interested in this and young people attending our meetings

2623
03:53:01,540 --> 03:53:07,300
is the way we get people interested in what we're doing and recruiting people. I love to, I love

2624
03:53:07,300 --> 03:53:10,740
to mentor young people in that way.

2625
03:53:12,700 --> 03:53:14,860
So thank you for your budget presentation.

2626
03:53:15,100 --> 03:53:16,760
Those are my comments, Mr. Chairman.

2627
03:53:18,820 --> 03:53:20,220
Thank you, Director Bell.

2628
03:53:20,300 --> 03:53:22,200
I'm very, very comprehensive comments indeed.

2629
03:53:22,580 --> 03:53:23,100
The Director Kigan.

2630
03:53:24,060 --> 03:53:24,520
Thank you.

2631
03:53:24,520 --> 03:53:26,740
This is actually through the chair just to clarify

2632
03:53:26,740 --> 03:53:29,940
a question for Director Bell.

2633
03:53:30,220 --> 03:53:32,800
I think what I heard you say is that you want to see

2634
03:53:32,800 --> 03:53:34,640
total project costs in the budget.

2635
03:53:34,640 --> 03:53:38,440
And that would include ongoing operations and maintenance, correct?

2636
03:53:39,220 --> 03:53:40,240
Absolutely, great.

2637
03:53:40,320 --> 03:53:41,140
Thank you, I agree.

2638
03:53:42,680 --> 03:53:43,400
Very good.

2639
03:53:44,020 --> 03:53:45,660
That was the last board member to speak.

2640
03:53:45,720 --> 03:53:48,300
Do we have any public comments at all?

2641
03:53:48,700 --> 03:53:49,000
I guess.

2642
03:53:49,600 --> 03:53:50,460
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

2643
03:53:50,460 --> 03:53:51,980
I have no public comment at this time.

2644
03:53:52,320 --> 03:53:53,960
OK, this item was informational.

2645
03:53:54,180 --> 03:53:55,640
Only thank you for that report.

2646
03:53:55,760 --> 03:53:56,620
I appreciate that.

2647
03:53:56,920 --> 03:54:00,660
And next item is 9.2 CEO and Chiefs Report.

2648
03:54:01,760 --> 03:54:02,040
All right.

2649
03:54:02,380 --> 03:54:03,340
Good afternoon.

2650
03:54:03,340 --> 03:54:06,720
Chair Pro Tembrella, members of the board, Rick Kalander.

2651
03:54:06,980 --> 03:54:09,120
A CEO today will have a few reports.

2652
03:54:09,660 --> 03:54:15,500
The first one we're going to be having, you actually do have a handout, which says local state federal grant update.

2653
03:54:15,840 --> 03:54:20,040
And I'm going to ask for CFO Taylor to make a presentation on that.

2654
03:54:21,740 --> 03:54:23,000
Then good afternoon again.

2655
03:54:23,600 --> 03:54:26,840
And yes, you do have before you a

2656
03:54:26,840 --> 03:54:35,840
The first grants update report, we plan to provide this report to the board on a regular basis going forward.

2657
03:54:36,300 --> 03:54:49,400
We have a proactive and aggressive grant seeking team, folks from all over Valley Water, get together regularly to discuss what's out there from the external affairs team to finance to the capital team.

2658
03:54:49,400 --> 03:54:53,280
And what we have before you on this is just kind of an update.

2659
03:54:54,020 --> 03:54:59,800
We flex some successes that we've had in 2023, fiscal year 2020.

2660
03:55:00,000 --> 03:55:10,500
We've been able to obtain $6.7 million with the grants, including a grant award, including 5.8 million for the cross-value pipeline extension.

2661
03:55:11,220 --> 03:55:28,140
We have pending grant applications, meaning either submitted or about to be submitted, totaling just under $30 million, including $14.9 million that we're seeking for the coyote percolation dam replacement project and another 5 million for the coyote creek flood protection project.

2662
03:55:28,140 --> 03:55:54,260
The report also highlights future grant opportunities that we're watching closely, including the large scale water recycling program created under the bipartisan infrastructure law, in which 450 million is available for eligible projects, which would include our own purified water project and the urban community drought relief program, which we're developing two proposals for 30 million dollars to support drought relief, and I'll pause there.

2663
03:55:58,960 --> 03:56:04,860
All right, unless there's any questions which I do here, why do I do it this way?

2664
03:56:05,800 --> 03:56:06,820
What about me?

2665
03:56:07,040 --> 03:56:08,320
Okay, do I go ask me?

2666
03:56:09,120 --> 03:56:15,380
This is just kind of a point of order really, and which is that the digital link, I should have said this before,

2667
03:56:15,620 --> 03:56:16,280
like, it wasn't working.

2668
03:56:16,580 --> 03:56:21,780
So can you can summarize this a little and I'll ask one of my colleagues to glance at their,

2669
03:56:21,780 --> 03:56:23,100
because I don't want to print out.

2670
03:56:28,960 --> 03:56:30,260
You want me to summarize the...

2671
03:56:30,260 --> 03:56:31,740
Yeah, it possibly would be nice to hear.

2672
03:56:32,160 --> 03:56:33,740
Or I can just look at it. It's up to you.

2673
03:56:33,740 --> 03:56:52,460
Sure. And I did provide a very high level summary. Oh, there it comes right there. With regard to it's basically divided into a couple of sections one being the grant awards in fiscal year 23. Then we've got pending value water grant applications and then details on future grant opportunities both on the federal level and the state level.

2674
03:56:57,570 --> 03:57:00,410
Thank you for your hard work and hopefully they'll be more coming.

2675
03:57:01,330 --> 03:57:06,510
Now I'd like to go to Chief Benike to talk about our storm report.

2676
03:57:06,910 --> 03:57:14,090
Sure, you have before you two sighted one page on the board, which reflects the storms up through yesterday afternoon.

2677
03:57:15,270 --> 03:57:24,670
Since December 1st, we've seen 3.43 inches increase and two date through December 12th.

2678
03:57:24,670 --> 03:57:27,530
in the Central San Jose storm gauge.

2679
03:57:27,990 --> 03:57:32,050
In addition, the reservoirs total unrestricted capacity

2680
03:57:32,050 --> 03:57:36,470
increased about 14% to 19% since December 1st.

2681
03:57:37,590 --> 03:57:39,250
This is a good start to our winter.

2682
03:57:39,890 --> 03:57:41,450
We hope to see additional rains.

2683
03:57:41,810 --> 03:57:44,150
And just want to remind everyone it's important

2684
03:57:44,150 --> 03:57:46,670
that community just continues to keep on conserving.

2685
03:57:47,530 --> 03:57:51,090
This past weekend, Valley Waters EOC opened

2686
03:57:51,090 --> 03:57:54,650
at the monitoring level three for the duration of the weekend.

2687
03:57:54,650 --> 03:58:01,350
We had crews out in the area looking at our what we call hotspots, which is a bridge pure

2688
03:58:01,350 --> 03:58:06,590
noses, et cetera, to ensure debris doesn't build up, and there was only minor flooding

2689
03:58:06,590 --> 03:58:12,630
reported in parts of South County, specifically Mark and Hill at Westville, Yagas, close to

2690
03:58:12,630 --> 03:58:17,810
Watsonville Road, and in Gilroy, a Malong Uvis Creek at Noir Avenue,

2691
03:58:19,890 --> 03:58:21,570
and on Saturday, the tenth,

2692
03:58:21,570 --> 03:58:28,530
Like I said, crews just spent their time cleaning racks, and that was I update if you have any questions that may not

2693
03:58:29,590 --> 03:58:35,470
Thank you. That was great. And we have a tour of it. We're now for Chief Gibson to talk about

2694
03:58:36,290 --> 03:58:41,970
Communications and the civic engagement activities. Okay. Thank you. See you calendar. Good afternoon.

2695
03:58:42,070 --> 03:58:49,870
Chair Poitemembers of the Board of Rachel Gibson. She fixed one of the fairs. You have before you the monthly one-pager from the Office of Communications and one to just highlight a couple of items off that

2696
03:58:49,870 --> 03:58:54,310
First of all, last month, we joined with Sacred Heart Community Service and the Chair

2697
03:58:54,310 --> 03:58:59,050
Pro Tem to host a joint press conference to promote the importance of the low-income water-rate

2698
03:58:59,050 --> 03:59:00,070
assistance program.

2699
03:59:00,530 --> 03:59:05,490
The media garnered much local media interest, including coverage by NBC Bay Area, ABC 7,

2700
03:59:05,810 --> 03:59:06,930
Delimundo, and Univision.

2701
03:59:07,870 --> 03:59:11,470
And then in our ongoing drought and our conservation campaign, we've again teamed up with the

2702
03:59:11,470 --> 03:59:12,110
San Jose Sharks.

2703
03:59:12,630 --> 03:59:16,770
This time, on a public service announcement, it's going to feature Logan Kature, you might

2704
03:59:16,770 --> 03:59:19,710
have already seen it actually on the television, continuing the important

2705
03:59:19,710 --> 03:59:22,090
message of saying yes to say in water.

2706
03:59:22,270 --> 03:59:26,310
To date, that video marks the third say yes public service announcement with a professional sports

2707
03:59:26,310 --> 03:59:28,210
team that staff is produced and distributed.

2708
03:59:28,870 --> 03:59:35,510
And then one quick set of engagement highlights applications for the fifth annual Water 101 Academy

2709
03:59:35,510 --> 03:59:40,630
will be opened this week on December 15th, so we'd encourage all residents of Santa Clara County

2710
03:59:40,630 --> 03:59:44,410
with an interest in learning about our agency and the three pillars of our mission to

2711
03:59:44,410 --> 03:59:44,850
apply.

2712
03:59:44,850 --> 03:59:52,410
Applications close on January 20th and the board will of course receive all applications for your district for appointment to the Academy

2713
03:59:52,410 --> 03:59:56,060
That concludes my report. Thank you. I suggest you reach out to pretty boy

2714
03:59:57,490 --> 03:59:58,710
Mr. irrelevant

2715
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:02,080
We're talking about. Come on.

2716
04:00:03,440 --> 04:00:04,040
The 409.

2717
04:00:04,040 --> 04:00:06,500
The hottest NFL player in the nation.

2718
04:00:07,940 --> 04:00:12,120
We will definitely do that in a big, big, big, big, big, big.

2719
04:00:12,220 --> 04:00:12,460
Mr. Chair.

2720
04:00:12,460 --> 04:00:18,660
Mr. Chair, barring any other questions of me that will complete the CEO report.

2721
04:00:19,240 --> 04:00:22,880
Any questions from the board? On these comments? On these reports?

2722
04:00:24,600 --> 04:00:31,620
Well, that concludes our board meeting for today.

2723
04:00:33,340 --> 04:00:35,040
Oh, that, that, that, hang on.

2724
04:00:35,740 --> 04:00:36,260
Director Swail.

2725
04:00:36,880 --> 04:00:37,280
Thank you.

2726
04:00:37,360 --> 04:00:38,060
A bigger part.

2727
04:00:41,630 --> 04:00:42,350
We're on 12.

2728
04:00:42,810 --> 04:00:42,830
Yeah.

2729
04:00:42,930 --> 04:00:43,170
Administration.

2730
04:00:43,530 --> 04:00:43,830
There's nothing.

2731
04:00:44,810 --> 04:00:45,770
So, board reports.

2732
04:00:47,510 --> 04:00:48,190
Thank you, Chair.

2733
04:00:49,390 --> 04:00:49,610
No.

2734
04:00:49,770 --> 04:00:50,730
It's close to five o'clock.

2735
04:00:50,950 --> 04:00:52,670
I will be as brief as I can.

2736
04:00:52,670 --> 04:01:08,930
I'm reporting the CFP committee meeting this week and then our request for staff to bring to the

2737
04:01:08,930 --> 04:01:17,150
January 10th work study session specifically related to

2738
04:01:17,150 --> 04:01:23,390
a particular dam project. And I, in, in the discussion, I forgot

2739
04:01:23,930 --> 04:01:28,050
two areas that I'd like to bring it up and then make

2740
04:01:28,050 --> 04:01:32,090
test her board member request and add it on top of all the CFP

2741
04:01:32,090 --> 04:01:36,890
committee requests the staff for the January test. So, a little bit

2742
04:01:36,890 --> 04:01:39,970
background that what they say have become

2743
04:01:39,970 --> 04:01:42,030
media asked after, or bring back related

2744
04:01:42,030 --> 04:01:45,770
to a particular past, a particular reservoir.

2745
04:01:46,450 --> 04:01:50,390
The first area is the affordability of the project.

2746
04:01:51,350 --> 04:01:56,770
And then the second one is the, we call it,

2747
04:01:56,770 --> 04:01:58,030
we call it a committee called the operation

2748
04:01:58,030 --> 04:02:01,010
of efficiency and effectiveness that we know that

2749
04:02:01,010 --> 04:02:04,630
particular reservoir needs to be an integral part of

2750
04:02:04,630 --> 04:02:17,070
existing infrastructure and so are there any existing issues with the infrastructure that's

2751
04:02:17,070 --> 04:02:23,510
going to affect using the water from a particular reservoir. For example, that we know

2752
04:02:23,510 --> 04:02:30,430
Clara Reservoir is on the hub of our operation if we won't be able to do Clara Reservoir

2753
04:02:30,430 --> 04:02:39,230
continue under the restriction for another 20-30 years, the exact effect of Pachico's

2754
04:02:39,790 --> 04:02:45,330
operation or Elm of the Papp launch, same similar thing that the exact effect of Pachico's

2755
04:02:45,330 --> 04:02:45,910
operation.

2756
04:02:46,210 --> 04:02:53,230
So that's a second area that the committee asks staff to come back with.

2757
04:02:53,750 --> 04:03:00,410
And then the third one is the adequate humor resources, both in the number and also the

2758
04:03:00,410 --> 04:03:08,010
talent and then skills in managing our current capital improvement program.

2759
04:03:08,250 --> 04:03:16,190
It's already big and with particular reservoir, what kind of resource that staff is anticipating

2760
04:03:16,190 --> 04:03:17,530
is that feasible.

2761
04:03:18,350 --> 04:03:24,570
And what I was driving home, I forgot that the most important thing that every time I have

2762
04:03:24,570 --> 04:03:32,130
opportunity I would like to ask the same question is that how this this storage opportunity

2763
04:03:32,990 --> 04:03:38,290
it's connected to our water supply master plan. So in the water supply master plan that

2764
04:03:38,290 --> 04:03:43,690
how we're looking at other storage opportunities, how for example the groundwater banking

2765
04:03:43,690 --> 04:03:54,550
outside the county, there's sites where there's lots of local cameras in addition to

2766
04:03:54,550 --> 04:04:02,410
to both meeting the work study session for the annual map process staff proposed a decision

2767
04:04:02,410 --> 04:04:03,110
framework.

2768
04:04:04,250 --> 04:04:10,130
So I don't know whether it can be used for this annual tenure work study session to help

2769
04:04:10,130 --> 04:04:13,070
the board in that regard.

2770
04:04:13,370 --> 04:04:24,530
So that's one request to the second request is that under the affordability staff informed

2771
04:04:24,530 --> 04:04:28,790
from the CIP committee that there will be much longer term

2772
04:04:28,790 --> 04:04:31,850
but not our water rate projections for 10 years.

2773
04:04:32,250 --> 04:04:35,170
And then on January 10th, there will be the young 10 years

2774
04:04:35,170 --> 04:04:35,750
projection.

2775
04:04:37,010 --> 04:04:40,730
So I think it will be helpful to board members

2776
04:04:41,260 --> 04:04:48,130
to in that discussion to include that if we are supporting

2777
04:04:48,130 --> 04:04:52,890
the agriculture water rate at 10% of the NNI rate.

2778
04:04:52,890 --> 04:04:59,670
So we'll see one rate going this very steep slope that subs.

2779
04:05:00,210 --> 04:05:15,390
I know people hate that word, subsidy, but that number will just be bigger. So how does that work? And then for the money come from. So that's my tool request for the January 10 meeting.

2780
04:05:15,790 --> 04:05:16,690
All right. Thank you.

2781
04:05:17,970 --> 04:05:18,530
Director Keegan.

2782
04:05:22,330 --> 04:05:22,890
Oh, you don't have anything?

2783
04:05:23,310 --> 04:05:29,350
Okay. So I'm going to suggest that we postpone our reports until next year.

2784
04:05:29,350 --> 04:05:35,810
It's going to be fair to our two new board members, but we have nothing to report out, director Santos, what do you have to say?

2785
04:05:36,570 --> 04:05:43,250
Yeah, thank you for that. I do want to make a little exception here. I think you're going to chance to say goodbye to director Kremlin.

2786
04:05:43,850 --> 04:05:49,370
It had the opportunity to welcome Rebecca Eisenberg, our new director, and of course Jim Melod, known for years.

2787
04:05:49,790 --> 04:05:54,430
So of course, I was a wonderful and sorrow family here today, we talked about the baseball player and so on.

2788
04:05:54,430 --> 04:05:58,310
But I do want to take the time to recognize Director Kremlin.

2789
04:05:58,750 --> 04:06:00,370
And thank you for the service of his listening.

2790
04:06:00,990 --> 04:06:04,410
There's many things he did that were really helpful.

2791
04:06:05,370 --> 04:06:09,250
And by the way, also, I want to take the time for the older group here in the water district.

2792
04:06:09,430 --> 04:06:11,410
I had my 39th annual.

2793
04:06:11,530 --> 04:06:12,790
I'll be so sad to program.

2794
04:06:13,110 --> 04:06:17,370
Probably 100% we used the word very loosely around there about diversity inclusion.

2795
04:06:17,930 --> 04:06:19,510
Well, this advantage community.

2796
04:06:19,930 --> 04:06:23,150
And they were there with toothpaste and brushes and everything else.

2797
04:06:23,150 --> 04:06:28,850
So going back to director Kremlin, I want to take the time because the came to his extraordinary

2798
04:06:28,850 --> 04:06:36,730
leadership during the water storage committee that I'll stand in job prior to the drought and after the drought.

2799
04:06:37,650 --> 04:06:41,850
And also with security and course the assistant water rate program, we really appreciate the

2800
04:06:41,850 --> 04:06:43,090
him and Tony worked on that.

2801
04:06:43,250 --> 04:06:50,710
And the last thing is he helped make his story, a point was here, the district, it was four of us.

2802
04:06:50,710 --> 04:06:57,110
And one of them was Gary Crenner, who led the leadership, helped appoint the first Asian Hispanic

2803
04:06:57,110 --> 04:07:04,270
American to this position of CEO. He also was very, very helpful in supporting our first

2804
04:07:04,270 --> 04:07:10,570
black American, Red Calendar CEO. And also our first Hispanic legal counsel that a fantastic job

2805
04:07:10,570 --> 04:07:14,890
that leadership. So I didn't have to teach Gary anything, he knew it. He came from the background.

2806
04:07:15,050 --> 04:07:18,950
He represented a District 7 fine. And if you're listening, Gary, it'd best to you and your family.

2807
04:07:18,950 --> 04:07:20,950
Thank you, Chair.

2808
04:07:21,150 --> 04:07:22,110
Thank you, Director Santos.

2809
04:07:22,230 --> 04:07:23,090
That was a nice honor.

2810
04:07:24,470 --> 04:07:26,930
So, Mr. Bell, did you have your...

2811
04:07:30,740 --> 04:07:32,500
I wanted to make a request.

2812
04:07:33,300 --> 04:07:42,500
I'm interested in how many vacancies exist in the water district personnel.

2813
04:07:43,900 --> 04:07:46,780
And I can talk to you later about it.

2814
04:07:47,100 --> 04:07:50,720
But I think it's something that we should review, like to see.

2815
04:07:50,720 --> 04:07:56,140
like we keep, okay, we keep asking them to do stuff, okay, and that's our

2816
04:07:56,140 --> 04:08:02,660
snake concease. So sometimes, you know, we hit a point where, you know, they

2817
04:08:02,660 --> 04:08:07,900
can't do all the stuff we wanted to do. And so I'd like to be aware of that

2818
04:08:07,900 --> 04:08:14,860
or draw awareness to that subject by asking for just informing us about

2819
04:08:16,120 --> 04:08:23,860
may be the management vacancies and so forth, so please please maybe we can develop a way of

2820
04:08:24,500 --> 04:08:32,560
having a running tally of how we're doing, you know, hiring top staff and all that kind of thing.

2821
04:08:32,640 --> 04:08:35,900
I'd like to be more closely aware of what's going on.

2822
04:08:36,200 --> 04:08:36,920
Thank you.

2823
04:08:36,920 --> 04:08:37,520
It's a good request.

2824
04:08:39,960 --> 04:08:43,360
Director, did you have your, okay, I didn't see your signal of yourself?

2825
04:08:46,560 --> 04:08:47,020
Oh, we quick.

2826
04:08:47,160 --> 04:08:47,440
I promise.

2827
04:08:47,800 --> 04:08:53,220
So I, I was thinking, I, you know, I agree so often with what my colleagues are saying.

2828
04:08:53,640 --> 04:08:58,200
I just thought maybe we could explore having, um, to save time on behalf of, you know, a

2829
04:08:58,200 --> 04:09:02,320
public, maybe we could have, I've seen this done elsewhere, like a plus one sign or something

2830
04:09:02,320 --> 04:09:07,260
that we can indicate, you know, just also to show support for the ideas of our colleagues

2831
04:09:07,260 --> 04:09:17,420
And also kind of to expedite meetings and tell, it's something to consider, you know, so we don't have to say, like I sometimes say, I really agree with so and so, just to just another thought.

2832
04:09:18,040 --> 04:09:32,520
You know, oh, quickly to I wanted to thank Director Santos for his comments about my predecessor, and I want to make it really clear that I think nobody is all good or all bad, and I think that it's always best to give other people the benefit of the doubt.

2833
04:09:32,520 --> 04:09:40,700
In terms of their goals and their priorities and and I absolutely do that with my predecessor and and you know, and I

2834
04:09:40,700 --> 04:09:46,460
You know, I think there were content he may contributions and I'm happy to honor that I'm very honored to be here

2835
04:09:46,820 --> 04:09:51,960
But I of course I give respect to those who came before me. Just once it was very kind

2836
04:09:53,140 --> 04:09:53,700
So

2837
04:09:54,620 --> 04:09:57,500
Proposed future board agenda items 12.2

2838
04:10:05,260 --> 04:10:14,340
Are you wanting a list of future agenda item? There is quite a list. I have document in all the agenda items.

2839
04:10:14,640 --> 04:10:19,620
Okay, you know what? We've got it. I have. So can you give the clarification on the board request?

2840
04:10:19,960 --> 04:10:21,560
Okay. I'll put it that way.

2841
04:10:22,020 --> 04:10:35,240
All right. Well, we'll do that. I have several requests here. I have a request from Director Bell for the January CIP work city session to identify projects that can be completed faster and save money for the constituent.

2842
04:10:35,240 --> 04:10:44,180
of the county. Also looking to state funding matching opportunities for our projects, especially

2843
04:10:44,180 --> 04:10:51,500
with the California Water Projects Bill, I believe that was just passed. Schedule the in-house

2844
04:10:51,500 --> 04:10:58,080
workshop in January of 2023, which I'm sorry.

2845
04:11:02,400 --> 04:11:05,120
Okay, well I originally docked documents across

2846
04:11:05,120 --> 04:11:06,400
and become an action.

2847
04:11:07,540 --> 04:11:11,700
And then I have the Request from Director Shua, the in July of August, the next year to return

2848
04:11:11,700 --> 04:11:14,380
with the lessons learned on the two-year budget process.

2849
04:11:15,140 --> 04:11:22,100
And then the two requests that you stated Director Shua, one, was include with the CIP, the

2850
04:11:22,100 --> 04:11:27,800
Chaco information for the CIP in January, that how the Pachaco storage opportunity connects

2851
04:11:27,800 --> 04:11:29,580
to the water storage master plan.

2852
04:11:30,220 --> 04:11:34,380
And then I'm sorry, I didn't catch your whole Request regarding the Ag Water Rates.

2853
04:11:34,380 --> 04:11:38,020
So I can touch faces with you afterwards on that.

2854
04:11:38,300 --> 04:11:41,180
And then director Bell's request to provide

2855
04:11:41,180 --> 04:11:43,740
and reoccurring report on the number of vacancies

2856
04:11:43,740 --> 04:11:45,780
in the value water personnel.

2857
04:11:48,290 --> 04:11:49,050
Thank you.

2858
04:11:49,630 --> 04:11:54,210
So the last item on the agenda is to say to each and every single one

2859
04:11:54,210 --> 04:11:58,130
of you, a very happy holiday, happy Hanika,

2860
04:11:58,830 --> 04:12:01,770
happy Kwanza, Merry Christmas, happy New Year.

2861
04:12:02,190 --> 04:12:04,570
And this was an amazing, wonderful meeting.

2862
04:12:04,570 --> 04:12:09,150
welcoming our new board members here, the meeting flowed very, very well, I'm very pleased.

2863
04:12:09,950 --> 04:12:13,010
We are adjourned until January 10th.

2864
04:12:19,670 --> 04:12:21,230
I'm sorry, I didn't see that.

2865
04:12:23,540 --> 04:12:24,700
Yeah, sure, of course.

2866
04:12:30,050 --> 04:12:35,690
Marisol in San Jose, she's the head of the Washington Neighborhood Association, she was hit

2867
04:12:35,690 --> 04:12:43,910
by a car and killed as she was marching with the community on a Pasada march down first street

2868
04:12:43,910 --> 04:12:53,590
and Carter didn't hit her, killed her, and I'll get the name, it's a long name, it's

2869
04:12:55,350 --> 04:12:58,730
got, but Marie Marisol, is her name.

2870
04:13:00,910 --> 04:13:07,110
I'll get the full name for you, and we'd like to adjourn her memory, and send the family

2871
04:13:07,110 --> 04:13:07,850
or condolences.

2872
04:13:07,970 --> 04:13:10,610
Absolutely, the memory of Marie is Marisol.

2873
04:13:10,610 --> 04:13:18,330
Marisol, with our condolences to the family, this Board of Directors meeting is adjourned

2874
04:13:18,330 --> 04:13:20,030
in her name and her memory.

2875
04:13:20,730 --> 04:13:25,010
And we will reconvene one PM on January 10th, 2023.

2876
04:13:26,550 --> 04:13:27,290
Thank you, Board members.

2877
04:13:27,570 --> 04:13:28,090
Thank you, Public.

2878
04:13:29,750 --> 04:13:30,350
We are adjourned.