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Absent, Director Eisenberg, Absent, Director Estimera, Absent, Director Keegan, Director Santos, Director Rerella, Chair Shua, here,

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we have a

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The board is back from its closed session. We will start with item 2.6 District Council report on closed session.

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Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm sorry. I got a sort of District Council.

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The board met in closed session on items 2.1 and through 2.4 inclusive with all directors participating.

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On items 2.1, 2.2 and 2.3 direction was given to staff. On item 2.4, no reportable action was taken.

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The board met in close session on item 2.5 with all directors except director Eisenberg and no

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reportable action was taken.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Item 3.1.

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Pledge of Allegiance.

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Ms. Gibson.

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Can you lead us for the,

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Thank you.

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Item 3.2.

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Oh, there's of the day.

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Are there any requests to change the sequencing of items on today's agenda?

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free time open for public comment on any item not on the agenda. Do we have a request to speak

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to the board?

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Thank you Madam Chair. At this time on Zoom I have a hand raised by Tom.

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Okay, Tom.

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Can you please mute yourself?

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Tom?

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To the correct of the board, the user has been requested to mute via the system and is not a meeting.

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okay then uh yeah we'll okay then we'll go to the next person

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this is I'm sorry

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I can't read the word I'm not sharing let me help you so the next person I

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have on zoom with the hand raised is Bridget Bridget yeah Bridget please go

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ahead

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we can hear you but not clearly there's some noise background noise

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Pardon me?

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Okay, please go ahead.

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I'll please go ahead.

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Come here soon. Maybe we'll

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try later. Okay, I do have a tool.

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This is Bridget, right?

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So we have

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Okay, go ahead and speak and see if we can hear you clearly.

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Yeah, yeah, good. Now it's good.

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Okay, so my name is Bridget, and I own a phone on Tim with Avenue.

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And we share the effect line with the federal and water district. My factor is about 150 feet of shared

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bit and bit and bit and bit and then there's the driveway and at the dead end of China. I contacted

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the board, probably almost on a weekly basis for the last two or three years. And we finally

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less than half because we couldn't take it anymore. The homeless were destructive. There

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was fires, there was noise, there was police activity. We couldn't take it anymore. And

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we left. Our home will now not shut up. It's been on the market for 54 days. We have

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lower the price. We've said everything we can to make it simple while other houses in the

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neighborhood that we not have the buildings at home would have sold for over $1.6 million

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are rolling and on crap.

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We, some lower their price, like I said, but every time anyone

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even makes a drawer door, they say, oh my God,

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those homeless, us disgusting, we can't

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waste beer.

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So no one's at least putting a disgusting offer on our house.

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We would like for the water district to put a fence up

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that was designed for the EI8 that we know for whatever

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reason underground wires, power lines, budget, whatever it is that was supposed to be the

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spring which would have helped us to all our house. We want you to put fencing up the

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high of the homeless from the disability of our house. We're not going to do this a good

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neighbor fence because we're not going to pay $8,000 to the fence in when they can still

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seize up on the levelling and everything else. So we want you to make sure that the homeless

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are on the other side of the river. You have to put some guidelines on where they can be.

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You have to start making some rule where they're not lighting fires, so large, that people in the neighborhood are having respiratory issues.

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We were promised the GI8 and now we have nothing.

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Nothing is happening. People are debating, but they're moving to your location in front of our house and our house.

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It's getting to be prioritized.

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Bridget, are you finished with your comment?

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Okay, thank you.

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Based on this public's comment that staff should be familiar with the situation and since we cannot discuss this at the meeting, that's work offline on this request.

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Yeah. Okay.

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Oh, we have.

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I hear your concern that just I feel filled for it, but then since this item is not on our agenda today, we really cannot discuss it. So we will make sure that we get back to you.

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It's...

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I can put on the agenda.

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So our staff is familiar with your situation.

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We will definitely circle back to you and then go from there.

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Thank you very much for coming to the board meeting.

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Do we have another one?

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Is that William?

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Can you please unmute yourself?

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Do the board the user has been requested to unmute?

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Is that a meeting themselves?

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We have Dave.

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They have been through the board. They have been requested on me.

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They are on medium self. They are not meeting them themselves.

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What's going on? Let's go to the people who are here at the boardroom, Josephine

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Yes, please.

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I am here on behalf of the MedCath neighborhood association. I have some maps. If you would like to look at them, the location. If you wanted to pass that around. What has happened recently is the upgrading of the dam, right by MedCath Park.

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And also we have a lot of construction on Monterey Road, or not sure, is heavy construction there.

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But I'm here because we've had pigs come into our complex, California misson complex.

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And we used to have a few of them, and we were able to deal with fences and, you know,

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after the, let's see, the damn work,

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which has been ongoing.

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I think started in May of last year.

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Has that been completed yet?

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You're nodding your head, but I don't know.

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I've left messages for, is it Tiffany, Chao,

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and let's see who's the other gentleman?

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Tony, Marcotta, that I haven't heard back from them.

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So, our concern is the cost and also our property values, certainly decreased with, we

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had used to have beautiful landscaping there.

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So, I'm wondering who, what jurisdiction and who at each jurisdiction could I speak with

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Because I'm looking at the maps, the city of San Jose Planning Department, recently, is in the process of rezoning to open space, all around us.

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And I did happen to talk to one of your water district employees when I was down in Market Hill.

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And I asked if he could tell me where the county or the valley water district or whatever

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line is near us and it's not clear.

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I'd like to know what jurisdictions are there.

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So I may speak with the appropriate people to help us with the wild pigs.

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They are being hit by cars on Monterey Road.

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We have huge dead pigs that are very good and large,

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but then they have their little piglets.

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So a city of San Jose takes about two weeks to clean that up.

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So we will get back to you about the jurisdiction.

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The staff have a quick answer at this point.

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or, yeah, we'll get back up to, yeah.

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So we have your information and then we'll get back to you.

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Thank you for coming to the board meeting

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and give us the, I don't think you have all my information.

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And can you please leave the information with our staff?

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We'll make sure that we talk, if we're good.

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Yeah, we did you want to give some on-apps

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of our association of the, okay, we'll go ahead.

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I want to ask a quick question of you.

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Thank you so much for telling me about this.

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I'm wondering if you've alerted animal rescues

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or animal services.

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Pigs are extraordinarily intelligent animals.

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They're sacred under many religions,

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and they're just such amazing.

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This is really, really upsetting to hear.

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Have you notified animal rescues?

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You may want to get the mic if the chair says so.

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Yeah, just, okay, can we have a quick answer to Dr. Eisenberg's question?

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Yeah, because we, again, design them is not of the agenda.

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We should receive your report and then we'll get back to you.

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Yes, many of the individual owners in Kalmasan have called about it.

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One of them offered to have her husband and father who hunt pigs, have them come on to our property and kill them,

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put them in cages.

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You feel free to contact me directly to talk about pig

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rescues, Rebecca, Eisenberg, will you get that to me?

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Yeah, we'll give that to you.

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Because I know a bit about animal rescue.

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So thank you, sir.

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But it's important.

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I'm happy to be here at the meeting because tomorrow

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is our board meeting at Calametson.

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And there has been a survey.

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And many people are upset about them killing.

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Oh, I imagine that's one thing about the need of us.

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That's move on to a mischievous tattoo.

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Yes, thank you Madam Chair, person. Thank you board for listening to me. I live and own property on Tonino Drive back up to your property, the Guadalupe Creek.

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For the last three years we've had the homeless problem. We have tents immediately behind our property.

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number of times over the last few years we've had large fires one time the fire department

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actually ran hoses through our property to put out the fire this is getting beyond

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tiresome we listen to them every night you know we one of the reasons we bought the house

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in the first place was there was no backyard neighbor. At that time it was just farmland

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to be on the creek and now of course that's the Alden Ranch which is not an issue.

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But if we had actual backyard neighbors who did the things that these homeless are doing,

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the police would be there constantly. They would probably be forced out of their home,

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arrested, whatever I don't know.

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But this is getting tiresome. This is your private property.

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Supposedly there is no trespassing. Obviously other than the public paths for use.

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But I would think that anyone actually camping in the land would be considered trespassing.

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I just don't understand why nothing gets done.

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Thank you for listening to me. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for coming to the

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for me. Joe, I wish that we'll get back to you. Okay. That's a circle back to

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those public who wish to speak to us on Zoom. Do we have any? No. Okay.

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So, is Arlie the next one to request to speak to the board?

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Is that?

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I'm not seeing any hands raised at this time on this.

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Okay, everybody's done.

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Everybody's done.

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Now moving on to item 3.4.

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This is a public meeting.

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I'm where we're opening a public hearing on a groundwater production

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charges. I have a statement to read first and then staff will do a presentation.

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So good afternoon, my name is Nyshir and I am the Santa Clara Valley Water District Board

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of Directors Chair. This item 3.4 is a public hearing for the recommended groundwater

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production and other water charges for fiscal year 20, 24, 25.

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The district ad requires that valley water prepares a report, containing a recommendation

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as to whether a groundwater production charge should be levied in any zone of valley water.

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And a proposal of the charge per acre foot for production of agricultural water and the charge per acre foot for production of all water other than agriculture water.

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So the district act requires that a public hearing

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be held on the annual report on the protection

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and augmentation of water supplies,

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so that the public may appear and submit comments

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and information to the Board of Directors

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on the charges proposed by staff for the upcoming fiscal year.

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And that's what we're doing today under this item.

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After today's session, the hearing will be continued to the special board meeting scheduled for 7pm April 11, 2024, in-person at the Gilroy City Council Chambers City Hall at 777-351 Rosanna Street in Gilroy, or via teleconference Zoom meeting.

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We will first have a presentation by staff on the proposed charges for fiscal year 20, 24, 25.

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Then we will hear comments from the public.

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So if you would like to provide comments on this item, please either complete a public comment card

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and submitted to the clerk or use the race hand tool in Zoom to identify yourself.

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And request to speak. Following staff's presentation on this item, I will recognize speakers one at a time and give access to make comments.

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So, with that, I would now like to introduce Aaron Baker, Chief Operating Officer of the Water Utility Enterprise to begin the staff presentation and provide additional details on the subject matter.

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Thank you, Chair and Honourable Board of Directors.

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Valley Water Remains and Anair of Investment.

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Climate change has also brought the possibility of more frequent and prolonged droughts

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and the need for new infrastructure investments.

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The effort to develop Valley Water's 2050 water supply master plan is underway.

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When completed, it will guide critical investments for projects, programs to increase the

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future of water supply reliability.

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The proposed groundwater production charges for fiscal year 2024 and 25 will be presented in

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the staff presentation.

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These groundwater projection charges are necessary to pay for the ongoing maintenance of the existing water system,

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investments in water supply infrastructure rehabilitation and upgrades, and the new water supply

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reliably investments. Now I'd like to introduce Ms. Carmen Narayanan, who will give the staff

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presentation. Wonderful. Thank you. Good afternoon, Chair Swayan members of the board.

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Today's public hearing has three specific objectives. First, to present the annual report on

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water activities to ensure reliable water supply and recommended groundwater

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production charges second to provide an opportunity for any interested person to

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appear and submit evidence concerning the subject of the written report to

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the board and third to determine an effects groundwater production and other water

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charges for FY2425.

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Our 53rd annual report, the annual protection and

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augmentation of water supplies report was released at the end of February and it

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available online and this report provides information and accountability for our groundwater

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production charges and the water utility. We'll be covering several topics today as listed

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here.

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And this map does a great job highlighting the comprehensive and flexible water system that

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value water manages and as the groundwater stewed for the county and the primary wholesaler

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wholesale water provider. We operate the system that serves over 2 million people here in Santa

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care county and you can see what's highlighted reservoirs, many acres of recharge

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ponds, pipelines, we have three water treatment plants, our water purification center

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and multiple pump stations.

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We have four groundwater production charge zones, which are highlighted on the map, a zone

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W2 in North County is shown on the left in our three South County zones on the right.

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Our board's pricing policy maximizes effective water use and a key concept is that groundwater

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charges are levied within each zone for the benefits received.

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And another key concept is the polling concept or all water sources and facilities contribute

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to the common benefit within a zone regardless of cost.

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Our board pricing policy further limits the agricultural water charge to no more than 10% of

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M&I rates.

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The rate setting process is consistent with props to 1826, and the groundwater charge process

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consistent with prop 26 and to qualify as a non-tax fee, the charge is established at an

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amount that is no more than necessary to cover reasonable cost of the government activity,

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and the manner in which the costs are allocated, bear a fair, reasonable relationship to the burden

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on or benefits for see from the government activity. Our surface water charge setting process is

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consistent with prop 2018 and that's defined in board resolution 12-10.

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All right, this graph

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here highlights our district manage water use, district manage water use translates to revenue for

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water utility and we show of different types of water being treated water, groundwater, and then

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surface of recycled water. Prior, your actuals are shown in blue. Current, or current projections,

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future projections are shown in green and then our current adoptive budget is there in orange

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for FY24. So our current adoptive budget is 207,000 acre feet. We're looking to be on track for

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achieving that water use. This fiscal year, our prior year, actuals came in a little bit higher

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budget at 198,000. And for the upcoming rate setting cycle, we're projecting our budgeting

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district manage water use around 222, 223,000 acre feet of water. That does assume some rebound

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ongoing rebound from the drought. And we've seen rebound from the drought happen. It's happened

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from the last several droughts over the previous several decades. To what level is the question

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that rebound and I'd like to note that the future projections are actually lower than our most recent

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drought or prior projections from that church.

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We've shown in the highlighted, or the shaded gray area above. We've heard feedback from our retailers, about flattening demand and hardening conservation, where we're very aware of that and taking that into consideration.

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And we're looking forward to see what the summer tells us. What will water usage be? It's looking like there's no drought right? There is no drought this year.

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people start watering their gardens again. We're embarking on a study to look into water use

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projections and we're looking forward to that informing next great setting cycle on FY26.

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Alright another another graph where you all this highlights are long-term cost projections for

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the water utility stacked by cost category so we have our source of supply, raw water,

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treatment and distribution on going debt service is highlighted there in green and a key

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takeaway from this graph is the grade blue bars along the top and that represents our capital

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investments and capital expenditures over the next 10 years and it really is a key driver

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of our water rates and what is built into these projections I'll be covering in a future slide.

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We recognize that recent inflation trends have put upward pressure on water rates as Chief

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We mentioned we remain in an era of investment for our existing water supply and infrastructure.

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It was built decades ago, we're fixing Anderson Dam, ongoing upgrades at Rintonautow Water Treatment Plan.

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Continue and we are addressing seismic deficiencies at multiple dams on a more expedited schedule.

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We continue planning work to build local storage, including the Chaco Reservoir Expansion Project,

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expanding purified water locally here in the county and investing in out-of-county storage,

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such as the Lose Picarus Reservoir Expansion Project and the Systemories Project.

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And finally, we're looking forward to the results from the Water Supply Master Plan 2050,

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which will shed light on what new infrastructure investments are recommended.

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So what is included in our FY25 rate assumptions?

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I already covered the district manage water use projected at around 220,000 acre feet next fiscal year

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to secure existing supplies and infrastructure.

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We have a suite of baseline projects that include the Brinkonautal Water Treatment Plan upgrades and the Art tenure pipeline reliability project.

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The Anderson dam seismic retrofit project.

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The suite of projects is included as well as the DM safety program that I just mentioned.

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That is a preliminary placeholder.

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We have master plan project placeholders.

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There are currently three master plans underway.

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And we're projecting the need for capital projects that will be recommended as an outcome of that.

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The key assumption is that the state water project tax will continue to pay for 100% of our state water project cost.

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I'll note that that excludes the state water project portion of the Delta Convance project.

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We are also including the Delta Convance project, our Valley Waters portion of that at 3.23% in our baseline rates.

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For expanding conservation and reuse, we have a phase 1 demonstration facility as

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San Jose Purified Water project included as well as a preliminary placeholder for a phase

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2 full scale facility for that purified water.

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And then I already mentioned the Chaco, Loast Piccadros, and Systemories to secure additional

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supply and storage.

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One strategy, one strategy for funding all of those large capital projects is through

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financing. This graph reflects our debt service components, including principal interest and our

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commercial paper program. We're looking at around $87 million total on FY25 and that grows to around

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317 million by FY34. We always targeted 2.0 debt service coverage ratio or better to ensure

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financial sustainability and that helps us maintain high credit ratings.

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I mentioned before we

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We have four different groundwater production zones and so one question we hear is why do we have different rates among those zones and also different rate increases as projected and all cover those in just a moment.

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And it really comes down to infrastructure.

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Some of our infrastructure is shared and benefits all users in the county some benefits only North County such as our water treatment plants and multiple reservoirs.

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some of our infrastructure benefits only South County, such as the Yves and Chesbro Reservoirs

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and the Scrawler Cycle Water System. And it serves as a reminder that cost-follow infrastructure

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and rates-follow costs.

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Diving into some numbers, this is a 10-year groundwater charge increase

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projection for all four zones. I've highlighted next upcoming fiscal year of 2025 in the red box.

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So for North County Zone, W2 staff recommended increases.

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It's 12.9% over current adopted rates. We'll be going over those in a little more detail momentarily.

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So, 12.9% next year, followed by 9.9% per year for many years, out through FY33.

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In South County, zone W5, a 6.6% rate increase in South County zone W714.2% and finally in South County, zone W8 and 8% increase.

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We're able to maintain smooth and stable rate increases for our South County zones.

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It's also important to note that lower water use rebound would add upward pressure on our water rates.

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If we break down those rate projections to the monthly impact to an average household,

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in North County it would be about $8 in 70 cents per month next fiscal year,

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and in South County ranging from $1.10 to $3.20 per month to the average household.

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And for all rates that we're going over today,

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it does not include any additional increases

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that a retailer may layer on top.

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And taking those rape projections of this graph highlights,

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not only our agricultural groundwater production charge,

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which is in purple at the bottom of the graph,

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and then we have our three South County zones

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and orange green and, I guess, a golden color

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and finally our North County zone W2 in the blue.

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I've boxed in next fiscal year

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and you could see the trend that we're looking at.

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All right, next up,

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Perzone all walk us through some numbers so again North County zone W2 highlighted here on the map before you it's staff recommendation is a 12.9% increase

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that translates to a maximum proposed rate of $2,229 per acre foot for M&I

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or as I mentioned before about eight dollars and 78 cents per month to the average household

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We're recommending our contractor to water surcharge, remain the same at $115 per acre

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foot, and the non-contractor to water surcharge at $200 per acre foot.

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And we believe maintaining this surcharge, it'll maintain the point of neutrality, where

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retailer with the choice would be economically indifferent as to whether they should take

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treated water or pump groundwater.

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In our South County zone W5, again highlighted in the map, this overlays the Yagas sub basin,

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The staff recommended 6.6% increase translates to a maximum proposed rate of $579 per acre foot or about a dollar 22 per month to the average household.

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I'll note that our surface water master charge is recommended at $61 per acre foot and zone W5 also has recycled water and the maximum proposed rates for M&I is $559 per acre foot

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or $70 and 15 cents per acre foot for agricultural water use.

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In South County, zone W7, which is in the Coyote Valley,

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of staff recommended rate increase of 14.2 percent,

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translates to an M&I charge, again maximum per pellet of $750,

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and 50 cents per acre foot, or about $3.20 per month to the average household.

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And we do see higher rate increases in zone W7 compared to our other South County zones,

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because it's a dynamic sub basin that requires more district managed recharge.

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And finally, in South County, zone W8,

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South recommendation is an 8% rate increase, which translates to

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maximum and an I charge of $430 per acre foot or about 110 per month.

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And then I'd like to point out that our agricultural water charge

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is at or under 10%, technically it's a 9.25% increase.

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that were, excuse me, it's set at 9.25% of our zone W8

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M&I rate and that translates to $39.80 per acre foot,

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and that the agricultural rate is the same across all four of our zones.

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And when we compare those rates that I just went over,

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these are the maximum proposed, excuse me,

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this is translated to a monthly impact.

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But if we look at other retail agencies and the monthly average monthly bill

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for the four zones that I just went over, those are highlighted in the yellow color and then some of our

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local retailers are in the darker blue compared to other agencies across the state. You could see that the

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the groundwater production charges are on the lower side. One compared to other agencies.

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I think that's

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good point. Excuse me. Okay. We also like to compare our rates to wholesale, other wholesale

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agencies, including Orange County, Zone 7, San Diego, and the SFPUC, and I'd like to

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note my apologies that the data on this graph is outdated.

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However, the correct rates are shown in Exit 6 of attachment 1, which is page 7.

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And I will note that the trend is very similar, so all the dollar amounts are a little different

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the trend is...

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The same and our three South County zones are on par with Orange County Water District and our North County,

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so NW2 rates are in alignment with San Diego, SFPZ and Zone 7 in Alameda County.

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And finally, I wanted to highlight our state water project tax recommendations.

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We're recommending setting the tax at $28 million.

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Last, next year, current tax was set at $27 million, so $1 million increase.

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That translates to a bill for the average single family home here in Santa Clara County of around 42 dollars per year on their property tax bill

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And if we did not love either state water project tax it would have real impacts to our rates over a hundred and fifty five dollars or our

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M&I rate and North County zone W2 could be up to a hundred and fifty five dollars higher than what I shared with you today and

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Similar in South County the impact ranges from twenty nine dollars per acre foot to fifty five dollars per acre foot

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higher if we did not let be the state water project tax, and then it would also impact our open space credit by eliminating nearly

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790,000 dollars of revenue that benefits the open space credit.

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All right, here we are today opening the public hearing.

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We are sharing this information tomorrow at the water commission meeting.

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We're continuing the public hearing in South County.

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there's an open house starting at six in that meeting scheduled for 7 p.m. at Giora City Hall,

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and then we're set to come back on April 23 to conclude this public hearing.

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Ideally, are by annual budget, the groundwater production charges I just covered,

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and our CIP are adopted at the May 14th meeting.

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And as part of our red setting process, we share this information with many groups and

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and committees, including our water retailers, the agricultural advisory committee.

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And so we have heard from our water retailers, I'd just like to report out, they have

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at our recent retailers meeting in March, they expressed appreciation for valley water and

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all the work that we're doing that investments in infrastructure, but that was tempered

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with concern over rising rates and rising rates over the long term.

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We heard that ongoing water conservation is hardening and that demand is flattening out and that the request was made to keep future rate increases as low and reasonable as possible.

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And then yesterday we shared similar information at the Agricultural Advisory Committee and they passed a motion to recommend that the board suspend agricultural water rate increases until an ecosystem benefit study is completed, which would include the impacts of carbon sequestration.

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And then I'd just like to note, we do send out notices of public hearing and outreach materials to our private well owners and surface water customers, but to date staff hasn't heard anything directly from our customers.

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And I'll just close with we remain in an era of investment.

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We're looking forward to the recommendations that'll come out of the water supply master plan 2050.

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the proposed maximum FY-25 groundwater production charge in North County would equate to an average,

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excuse me, equate to an increase of about $8.78 per month for the average household for groundwater

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and trade water. And then again, ranging from $1.10 to $3.20 per month for our three South County

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zones. And like I said, we will obtain feedback from the water commission tomorrow and share that

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with you as we continue the public hearing on April 11th.

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And with that, I am available for any questions.

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Thank you very much for the presentation.

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I think based on the procedures we're in right now

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we're in the public hearing.

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And the next step is for the board to receive public comments.

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And then we will ask for more members questions or comment or direction to staff.

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So we may call on you later about questions.

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But now we will receive the public's comments on the recommended groundwater production

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and other water charges for fiscal year 2425.

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Again, as a reminder, as I said earlier, if you would like to provide comments on this item,

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please either complete a public comment card and submit it to the clerk of the board.

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Let's see what it looks like this.

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Or you can use the raise hand to, in Zoom, to identify yourself and request to speak.

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And I will recognize us speakers the one at a time and give access to make comments.

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So with that, any public who wish to provide comments related to the groundwater production.

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I don't have any requests for people who are in the board room. Do we have any raise hand?

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Thank you, Madam Chair. I have a hand raised on Zoom from Cacha Urban.

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Yes, Ms. Urban, please go ahead.

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We're

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now turning in chair, Shua, and having gotten a lot of informed directors and staff.

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This is Carter Irving with the Sierra Club, Illinois Fair of the Chapter.

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We're going to have our committee join this year's CIP budget and rate-tening process,

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since or commented in the process, since we know we're experiencing that our concerns will not be addressed through this process.

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Nevertheless, we want to stay for the record that issues that we have brought up before many times in the past.

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Before I get into that, I would like to express appreciation to staff for making some changes since the last presentation on rate increases to moderate those increases.

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Let's go to see if there's concern about this issue. We encourage you to continue to

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examine opportunities to reduce rate increases over the next 10 of the

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units. In the past, we have consistently expressed our concern that future

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increases in water demand should be more conservative. On its pace, the water demand

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rebound used for the rate-centered process seems questionable. The expected rebound

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and not occurred in 2023. So it's unclear why 16,000 Haker per year we found this forecast

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in February of 2024 and 2025. Historically, water used to have gone up and down with their

441
00:41:41,450 --> 00:41:48,050
general downward trend. The assumption that water use will only go up in the future seems unrealistic.

442
00:41:49,050 --> 00:41:54,630
There will be droughts in reduced usage between now and 2030-4. That said, you do appreciate

443
00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:57,130
a lot of us move towards more concerted demand

444
00:41:57,130 --> 00:41:59,190
projections over the past several years.

445
00:41:59,910 --> 00:42:02,690
More importantly, we are concerned about the particular

446
00:42:02,690 --> 00:42:05,350
reservoir project and the Delta Command's project,

447
00:42:05,710 --> 00:42:09,310
which are huge and very violently destructive projects.

448
00:42:10,010 --> 00:42:12,410
Current cost estimates for these projects are preliminary

449
00:42:12,410 --> 00:42:15,930
and extremely large and unprecedented projects,

450
00:42:15,950 --> 00:42:20,090
such as these, will have unpredictable future cost increases.

451
00:42:20,850 --> 00:42:23,390
The cost increases for a recent reservoir are indicative,

452
00:42:23,390 --> 00:42:25,670
even though it is much less complex.

453
00:42:26,650 --> 00:42:28,370
Now we've castled bar bills already

454
00:42:28,370 --> 00:42:30,610
are forecasted to increase more than $100

455
00:42:31,250 --> 00:42:34,830
over the per month, over the next 10 years.

456
00:42:35,530 --> 00:42:38,290
These projects go forward and increase this will undoubtedly

457
00:42:38,290 --> 00:42:41,450
be significantly more than that.

458
00:42:41,510 --> 00:42:44,190
It will continue far beyond the current 10 year projection.

459
00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:46,870
As a sign note, it's a run-of-hole

460
00:42:46,870 --> 00:42:49,550
that we do not have updated costs protections

461
00:42:49,550 --> 00:42:52,170
for the potato and the delta defense.

462
00:42:52,170 --> 00:42:57,630
This information is crucial for the water supply master plan update, and we urge you to make sure that new

463
00:42:57,630 --> 00:43:00,990
estimates are available if integrated into that plan update.

464
00:43:01,910 --> 00:43:11,790
These kinds apply to all three persons this process with setting budget, CFE, and thank you very much for your consideration.

465
00:43:11,790 --> 00:43:23,630
Okay, thank you, Ms. Irvin, and I also want to recognize that a written comment was submitted

466
00:43:23,630 --> 00:43:28,970
before the meeting and Ms. Irvin just read from the written comment. We're moving

467
00:43:30,750 --> 00:43:33,250
on to Ms. Maldi Colton.

468
00:43:39,050 --> 00:43:43,870
Directors, this is Molly Colmus, the article of California. Thank you, staff, for bringing

469
00:43:43,870 --> 00:43:49,230
important item to the board. As I'm sure we're all aware, we are experiencing an affordability

470
00:43:49,230 --> 00:43:54,450
crisis from the cost of housing, diversity, and utilities. People are struggling in

471
00:43:54,450 --> 00:43:59,190
the Bay Bills and make ends meet. Battlewater is not immune to these agonized difficulties and

472
00:43:59,190 --> 00:44:04,950
uncertainties. Battlewater is facing a $300 million deficit resulting in our iron grease.

473
00:44:05,650 --> 00:44:10,450
Blooming cost increases of products like Anderson Dan, Pachico, and the Delta Tunnel only

474
00:44:10,450 --> 00:44:12,950
exacerbate the current affordability crisis.

475
00:44:13,790 --> 00:44:19,210
I agree with Dr. Kiggen's comment, and a recent San Jose Sparklet Spotlight article stating

476
00:44:19,210 --> 00:44:23,710
it's time to take the serious look at which projects can wait before the district throws

477
00:44:23,710 --> 00:44:24,510
around money.

478
00:44:25,190 --> 00:44:29,450
Immediately, I was expected to release an updated cost estimate on the dust tunnel project

479
00:44:29,450 --> 00:44:31,630
sometime in the spring, which is any data.

480
00:44:32,330 --> 00:44:35,700
The laboratory would wait to finalize the water supply next to the plant until the

481
00:44:35,700 --> 00:44:41,100
cost estimates are released for both the JBL project as well as the next time. Thank you for

482
00:44:41,100 --> 00:44:45,480
considering considering the impact of cost increases on already overburden rate here as the

483
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:54,180
community. This concludes my thoughts today. Okay, thank you. Ms. Coden. Next one is a Mr. Jim Co.

484
00:45:00,340 --> 00:45:09,520
Good afternoon. I have basically two comments. I will incorporate it into a single comment.

485
00:45:11,770 --> 00:45:25,370
The first one is the plan to attach an outing, warm presentation really is not as clear as it could be. And some additional information is needed.

486
00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:33,310
Sure, a lot of great changes within and without inflation would be helpful.

487
00:45:34,410 --> 00:45:40,870
The second point is, is that by more county zone two compound unit cost drivers that are causing

488
00:45:40,870 --> 00:45:51,630
the water rates to increase using fiscal year 23 as a baseline and project what the impact

489
00:45:51,630 --> 00:45:59,210
Dryers are the fiscal year 28, fiscal year 31, and fiscal year 34.

490
00:46:01,530 --> 00:46:10,370
The next comment is the Sheryl North County Zone to Glorys, from the baseline with,

491
00:46:10,430 --> 00:46:18,290
and without the Chamber of Resort, San Luis Resort, and the Los Veracles Resort,

492
00:46:18,290 --> 00:46:22,510
expansion and the double, that's the time to share.

493
00:46:24,910 --> 00:46:28,750
Looking at the proposed growth and

494
00:46:28,750 --> 00:46:29,490
rigs,

495
00:46:31,670 --> 00:46:41,690
it appears that North County, W.W., will double from fiscal year 23 by fiscal year 28,

496
00:46:41,690 --> 00:46:54,990
It will quadruple by fiscal year 31 and will go up 14 times in 11 years.

497
00:46:55,750 --> 00:46:58,170
This seems excessive.

498
00:46:59,570 --> 00:47:10,690
It's not clear to me what the impact of those outstanding increase will be on the consumers.

499
00:47:11,770 --> 00:47:17,690
water bill that we receive from retailers such as House A Water Company.

500
00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:25,070
I just go quite understand the numbers that are being thrown out of staying very small.

501
00:47:25,530 --> 00:47:30,190
I believe they only reflect this school year 25 who are looking at it.

502
00:47:30,730 --> 00:47:33,930
So we need those projections for these hour and years.

503
00:47:33,930 --> 00:47:37,410
Another span is major infrastructure projects,

504
00:47:37,870 --> 00:47:39,930
how are impact in those rates,

505
00:47:40,390 --> 00:47:43,350
because it just doesn't seem to do all the work.

506
00:47:45,620 --> 00:47:53,500
The recommendation I have is valley water needs to make a formal public

507
00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:02,580
that is attractive to look at the plan for major projects in our structure,

508
00:48:03,420 --> 00:48:10,900
makes problems and evaluate each one of those options and do it within pretty much.

509
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,660
The conclusion about the vision

510
00:48:19,980 --> 00:48:24,260
of progress should be an option that is identified

511
00:48:24,260 --> 00:48:28,300
without a partner and with a partner.

512
00:48:30,830 --> 00:48:35,430
Pre-assessment bowl would be the best information that should be conducted to establish

513
00:48:35,430 --> 00:48:38,130
the best infrastructure project mix.

514
00:48:38,130 --> 00:48:46,010
So we'll make the water supply reliable and affordable for our spend deeper drugs and good products.

515
00:48:48,340 --> 00:48:50,900
Thank you, Ms. Mr. Cole.

516
00:48:51,480 --> 00:49:06,360
And I also want to recognize that Mr. Cole has submitted several written comments before the meeting in more details about what he just presented.

517
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:14,620
And of course all these written comments, staff will take a seriously and then addressing

518
00:49:14,620 --> 00:49:16,720
or answer the questions.

519
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:23,020
Are there any other public comments?

520
00:49:25,700 --> 00:49:35,700
So not seeing a public request, I just want to remind everybody who is listening also on

521
00:49:35,700 --> 00:49:44,220
Zoom that this public hearing of the recommended ground weather production charges will

522
00:49:44,220 --> 00:49:55,120
continue and the deadline to submit your comment to this board is April 23rd, 2024.

523
00:49:56,060 --> 00:49:59,980
So there is still time for you to get into the issue and then.

524
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:11,340
I submitted your comment to us by April 23, 2024. And also, we will hold a South County special board meeting

525
00:50:11,340 --> 00:50:19,100
about the same topic and that's another, that's a schedule for Thursday, April 11, which is this week, Thursday.

526
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:26,860
And that's an opportunity for you to appear in person before the board, if you have additional

527
00:50:26,860 --> 00:50:34,920
comment. So with that, I will now ask board members if you have any questions or comment

528
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,480
with direction to staff.

529
00:50:39,770 --> 00:50:43,630
Okay, I have a, okay, I'm sorry, I pressed the wrong button. I have

530
00:50:43,630 --> 00:50:47,770
a direct to Eisenberg first. Thank you.

531
00:50:51,910 --> 00:50:56,510
Is that right? We got it. Thank you. Okay. And so thank

532
00:50:56,510 --> 00:51:03,050
you for the presentation. Really helpful. Can you go to slide 12, please? Yes, give me

533
00:51:03,050 --> 00:51:04,530
Just a moment. We need to reload.

534
00:51:17,540 --> 00:51:28,040
This is it's like? Yeah. So here you say that debt service coverage ratio is 2.0.

535
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:39,180
We target 2.0. Define. Define debt service ratio here. Sure. So let's say that you took out $100 million.

536
00:51:39,940 --> 00:51:44,180
under your formula, what then would be the cost of repayment?

537
00:51:51,390 --> 00:51:53,010
Let me see, there's two questions.

538
00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:56,130
I've at least if I can answer your, I think the just of your question.

539
00:51:57,170 --> 00:52:00,690
A, a service coverage ratio, the definition of it would be,

540
00:52:00,690 --> 00:52:06,090
you're ongoing revenue, leisure, operational costs, equals an amount.

541
00:52:06,370 --> 00:52:10,930
That amount is targeted to be two times your debt service payment.

542
00:52:10,930 --> 00:52:23,410
If that target is met, but we found other targets, we will maintain a very high credit rating and therefore lower the lowest possible barring costs for value art.

543
00:52:23,630 --> 00:52:27,150
Okay, great. So yeah, so that's it. But stay there.

544
00:52:28,530 --> 00:52:31,030
So what year do we start paying back the Wifjellones?

545
00:52:35,450 --> 00:52:39,690
Take for example the Wifjellone that was closed in October 31, 223.

546
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,240
I think we got this answer this question at the last board meeting.

547
00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:45,720
Well, that's here again.

548
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:52,800
Interests starts in FY32 for the WIFI alone for Pacheco and for Anderson.

549
00:52:55,600 --> 00:53:05,080
And for San Jose DPR, FY39, and for our assumptions for Anderson and for the Dam Safety Program,

550
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,620
under a core WIFI program would be FY36 and FY39 respectively.

551
00:53:10,300 --> 00:53:13,400
So, why isn't there a step up in 2032?

552
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,100
20, I'm looking at that chart.

553
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,180
2032 is the year.

554
00:53:19,380 --> 00:53:22,380
You just said that we start paying back.

555
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:24,040
Many of those loans.

556
00:53:25,020 --> 00:53:31,500
So, I see a very minimal change between 2031 and 2032.

557
00:53:32,660 --> 00:53:34,180
Yes, you see it there, interest only.

558
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,940
So, we start paying back, we haven't started paying back the loans

559
00:53:38,940 --> 00:53:40,720
and then we start paying back the loans.

560
00:53:41,380 --> 00:53:46,160
So what will be the interest payments in 2032?

561
00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:49,680
The new interest payments, the marginal increase.

562
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,020
I would have to go back and get that information.

563
00:53:53,500 --> 00:53:58,760
So I guess what I'm saying is I just based on my understanding of math

564
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,020
and your explanation of repayment schedules.

565
00:54:01,700 --> 00:54:05,600
I'm not seeing that the interest charges being reflected in this.

566
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:13,000
Because we know that the $92 million or $93 million loan that you took out on October 31,

567
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,100
2032, I mean sorry, 2023,

568
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,810
the cost of repayment is approximately $290 million,

569
00:54:22,340 --> 00:54:33,640
just for that small loan. So given 20 years of repayment, and an almost $300 million obligation,

570
00:54:34,620 --> 00:54:42,660
That should be, you know, let's say, okay, so 300 divided by let's say, it's paid over 10 years.

571
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:48,580
So that would be like a $30 million increase per year if you're paying back over 10 years.

572
00:54:49,260 --> 00:54:56,080
And I don't see a $30 million increase in interest reflected here.

573
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,660
Let us go back and get some more information.

574
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:29,980
So the math is that you're not repaying these loans at all. And then you start repaying them in 2032. So you've paid zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero. And now you pay these loans. And what I quoted you is just for the $200 million loan. So if you're going to have a billion dollars of loans, that would be significantly more expensive.

575
00:55:29,980 --> 00:55:35,160
to repay. So, you should see a step up the year you start repaying alone.

576
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:42,120
Well, sorry to interrupt. So, conversation. That's put on slide number nine. I think that's actually

577
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:47,900
that was a, I was very happy to see this slide number nine. I thought that's, that's answering

578
00:55:47,900 --> 00:55:52,740
the director of key director, Eisenberg's question at the last board meeting.

579
00:55:54,300 --> 00:56:02,900
So, this dark green bar, that's listed as Wifi at Death Service and the light green bar is the Death Service.

580
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:04,840
So, that's the winter projection.

581
00:56:05,140 --> 00:56:08,220
So, staff is showing those with respect to the charge.

582
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:10,620
I'm trying to be helpful.

583
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:11,820
So, if there's any questions.

584
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:13,060
So, yes.

585
00:56:13,540 --> 00:56:18,120
That reflects the same mathematical inconsistency that I'm pointing out.

586
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:25,440
So, Chair, you may not have understood the question as I said it, which is that we start paying back the loan in 2032.

587
00:56:26,260 --> 00:56:28,720
So, I guess it doesn't answer the question.

588
00:56:29,580 --> 00:56:36,060
So, here, see the green line there? See the green part of the bar? That represents interest payments, okay?

589
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,020
It doesn't or it's something else. What does that represent?

590
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:45,360
That's for the interest payments for the planning and design loan, the construction loan interest would start in FI37.

591
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,300
and so beyond the time for him to show it.

592
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:53,760
So, you know, and you're right that I keep asking these questions, but I'm not getting

593
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:54,420
any answers.

594
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,300
So, you know, what do I want?

595
00:56:58,900 --> 00:57:04,620
I know, actually, director Sha, this doesn't answer the question.

596
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,720
He just said that we don't start repaying the loan, these loans until 2037.

597
00:57:09,300 --> 00:57:14,220
I think it's important that my colleagues understand what I'm asking, what I'm asking is

598
00:57:14,220 --> 00:57:21,860
information so we can actually see the impact of these loans on water rates. We still have

599
00:57:21,860 --> 00:57:29,840
not been shown the actual impact of these loans on water rates. In this case, chair, we don't

600
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:39,200
start repaying those loans until 2037. 2037 is not indicated on this chart. Why is that important?

601
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:45,280
because we pay zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero,

602
00:57:45,620 --> 00:57:49,520
and tell 2037 and then we pay a number.

603
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:52,500
We don't know what that number is.

604
00:57:53,180 --> 00:57:56,980
So that number needs to be provided to us.

605
00:57:57,220 --> 00:58:02,700
And I'm again asking you to please give us and give the public

606
00:58:04,580 --> 00:58:13,600
Complete information about how these extraordinarily expensive loans it will impact their

607
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:18,260
water rates we deserve to know they deserve to know and if you don't want to give

608
00:58:18,260 --> 00:58:24,660
information about rates give us at least how much interest will be paying each year that

609
00:58:24,660 --> 00:58:30,380
is part for the course and I get that some people don't I understand my question but just

610
00:58:30,380 --> 00:58:32,860
because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's wrong.

611
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,460
So I have a background that's a bit different

612
00:58:37,460 --> 00:58:38,800
than from how others are.

613
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,820
So, second, first I just want to say as a side point

614
00:58:41,820 --> 00:58:44,780
that I completely support the Agricultural Committee

615
00:58:45,630 --> 00:58:48,560
in their argument that, you know,

616
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:53,740
until we have investigated the positive impact

617
00:58:53,740 --> 00:58:58,560
of their sustainable agriculture practices

618
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:06,660
and their carbon benefits to us, agriculture actually converts carbon to oxygen.

619
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,140
It is extraordinarily positively impactful.

620
00:59:11,180 --> 00:59:13,160
It is better than an oxygen machine.

621
00:59:14,020 --> 00:59:16,840
We can live without planes, trains, and automobiles.

622
00:59:17,060 --> 00:59:22,980
We can live without fashion, we can live without movies, we cannot live without food.

623
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:28,460
Agriculture is extraordinarily important, and as an environmentalist, I also am here to

624
00:59:28,460 --> 00:59:31,440
It's also extremely important from an environmental impact, too.

625
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:33,440
So I'm going to support them,

626
00:59:35,460 --> 00:59:35,460
too.

627
00:59:36,100 --> 00:59:39,460
OK, asked about, oh, he on page eight.

628
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,680
Here's another question I've asked you all

629
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,680
that I haven't gotten an answer to yet.

630
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:49,060
So on page eight, here again, you have a chart

631
00:59:49,060 --> 00:59:54,280
where you have a relationship between cost of water

632
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:55,540
and uses of water.

633
00:59:55,540 --> 00:59:59,640
So, having, again, observed both the agricultural

634
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:18,500
Committee as well as the retailers, committee meeting. There is a unanimous agreement outside of this particular group of leaders that the more expensive the water gets, the less water is used.

635
01:00:18,500 --> 01:00:31,720
And I know as a big pain and not toughest the other week when I said, please give me an analysis of the elasticity of pricing on usage.

636
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:45,120
In other words, these charts continue to rest on the presumption that we can keep raising water rates without devastating water usage.

637
01:00:45,780 --> 01:00:55,100
But the analyses of our biggest retailers and agricultural, you know, leaders, flies in the face of that.

638
01:00:56,100 --> 01:01:05,000
So at some point, I'm wondering, can you please present to me your analysis of how higher prices will impact usage?

639
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:12,400
Because I'm sure you understand what I mean by saying that if we continue to price water so high, we're not going to increase revenue.

640
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,700
We're going to start decreasing revenue by devastating usage.

641
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:20,800
We also could potentially be creating a black market for water, and that seems crazy.

642
01:01:21,620 --> 01:01:24,520
But that's what happens when prices become out of reach.

643
01:01:25,540 --> 01:01:33,120
So I'm going to ask for that again, because these numbers, these figures, this relationship between price and usage,

644
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:41,740
is not supported by the experts that we actually rely on to advise us.

645
01:01:41,740 --> 01:02:06,620
Okay, and so last, for now, the last, oh first, page 23, on page 23, you make an analysis of our water rates as compared with what you consider to be comparable agencies and in that agency, you listed the PUC.

646
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:19,780
So, SFPUC, as I'm page 23, so my understanding is that the SFPUC is both the wholesaler and

647
01:02:19,780 --> 01:02:21,480
the retailers that correct.

648
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:24,000
That's correct.

649
01:02:24,500 --> 01:02:29,960
So, we the wholesaler are comparing our rates to a retailer.

650
01:02:30,660 --> 01:02:32,020
That's, they are also a wholesaler.

651
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:33,360
We're comparing wholesale to wholesale.

652
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:40,980
Right, but in this case San Francisco, you rate payers pay the wholesale price, don't they?

653
01:02:42,820 --> 01:02:48,480
The answer is yes, because they are the wholesale and the retailer. Well, as of PUC, wholesale

654
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:55,000
spotter to cities such as Palo Alto. Yeah, but we're time them. Yeah, and then they have a retail system within the city itself.

655
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:59,260
Right, so which one are you using? And so which one we're comparing

656
01:02:59,260 --> 01:03:02,000
are rates to their wholesale rates,

657
01:03:02,140 --> 01:03:05,100
what they sell the water to other retail agencies.

658
01:03:06,460 --> 01:03:10,180
But it looks like all their customers in San Francisco

659
01:03:10,900 --> 01:03:13,600
can't pay their wholesale rates.

660
01:03:14,860 --> 01:03:17,940
Their rate schedule is, they have a published rate schedule

661
01:03:17,940 --> 01:03:20,780
that highlights retail rates that,

662
01:03:20,820 --> 01:03:22,960
like as a resident or a resident or a business

663
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:24,800
you would pay versus the wholesale rate.

664
01:03:24,940 --> 01:03:25,500
And they're different.

665
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,760
So for if your San Francisco rate pair,

666
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,280
You're paying a markup on this?

667
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:33,180
Because I didn't say I would just go for 20 years.

668
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:34,480
And we didn't.

669
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,100
I would have to look at their rates schedule.

670
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,420
So I think it's important that we compare apples with apples

671
01:03:40,420 --> 01:03:42,760
and not apples with apple pie.

672
01:03:44,460 --> 01:03:47,880
So I don't know how many others of these are actual,

673
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:49,300
both wholesalers and retailers,

674
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,080
but in less of our comparing with the actual wholesalers

675
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,340
that then experience a markup.

676
01:03:56,040 --> 01:04:02,680
wholesalers, tell, sell to retailers, retailers, sell to rate payers, there's a markup in between, right?

677
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:04,960
So, let's be honest here.

678
01:04:05,740 --> 01:04:07,940
So, I, this chart, I think, need some clarification.

679
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,500
Okay, so finally, I just want to make a point, a general point.

680
01:04:12,940 --> 01:04:21,200
One thing you said, which I understand to be the strategy followed by previous boards.

681
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:37,040
And although some people here don't like new people, younger people coming in and shaking things up sometimes sometimes there are really big fundamental flaws in strategies that I think need to be rethought.

682
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,280
And this is not the first time I said this.

683
01:04:40,620 --> 01:04:41,920
But here's what you said,

684
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:48,940
Costs follow infrastructure and rates follow cost and I've heard that more than once and so

685
01:04:48,940 --> 01:04:54,180
You know, you said that and my understanding is that reflects the thinking of many of my colleagues

686
01:04:54,180 --> 01:04:59,960
So in other words, we decide what infrastructure we want to build

687
01:05:01,650 --> 01:05:07,970
And then we see what the costs are. And once we know the costs, we set the rates to pay for it.

688
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:13,840
That is a fundamentally flawed system.

689
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:21,720
We should not be choosing our infrastructure without considering cost.

690
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:29,300
We have no right to be a cost blind decision maker.

691
01:05:29,300 --> 01:05:36,220
We don't operate with unlimited money even the wealthiest people and I know many of the wealthiest

692
01:05:36,220 --> 01:05:36,520
people.

693
01:05:36,660 --> 01:05:41,320
I live in a city with one of the highest ratios of billionaires and I'm telling you you don't

694
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:47,260
get to be a billionaire without thinking looking at how much things cost before making a decision

695
01:05:47,260 --> 01:05:48,600
about what you should do.

696
01:05:49,420 --> 01:05:58,820
So I think, you know, here I come, shaken things up, I think we need to consider cost when

697
01:05:58,820 --> 01:06:06,080
decide what infrastructure we are going to build. And until we start to do that, we will be

698
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:20,900
fundamentally harming the public and harming the ratepayers. We must have a cost drive infrastructure.

699
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:32,040
Infrastructure follows costs not the reverse and we must think about the impact on rates before deciding what to do.

700
01:06:33,540 --> 01:06:40,460
And, you know, I miss Collins, you know, I've heard you say that and it reflects the current approach of this board.

701
01:06:41,140 --> 01:06:49,400
Until we change that approach, we are never going to be financially responsible to those whom we are supposed to be serving.

702
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:56,980
No one in the world makes, cause, makes decisions without knowing how much things cost.

703
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:01,720
I mean, would you buy a house for the same house as on the market?

704
01:07:01,860 --> 01:07:04,200
One is $1 million, the other is $10 million.

705
01:07:05,140 --> 01:07:10,080
One of them is painted blue, the other is painted pink, and you prefer blue.

706
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,900
So do you choose the $10 million dollar house?

707
01:07:14,340 --> 01:07:16,000
No, you don't.

708
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:29,560
You choose the one million dollar house and you pay $10,000 to repaint it. So, we are operating differently than any rational decision maker.

709
01:07:30,460 --> 01:07:39,620
So, we need to rethink this. We need to make a decision as to what infrastructure we do based on how much it costs.

710
01:07:39,620 --> 01:07:44,220
And until we change that, we're just ripping people off.

711
01:07:44,460 --> 01:07:47,040
So I'm not going to be supporting any of this,

712
01:07:47,140 --> 01:07:51,280
because A and support of the Ag, you know, my friends and colleagues

713
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,760
and partners and agriculture, I am from Wisconsin,

714
01:07:54,300 --> 01:07:56,460
and agriculture state, I respect them.

715
01:07:56,860 --> 01:07:57,860
We need them.

716
01:07:58,420 --> 01:08:02,000
And B, because it is a broken, it's a broken strategy

717
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,400
to be cost-blind while making infrastructure decisions.

718
01:08:06,100 --> 01:08:07,720
I recognize that's how it's been done.

719
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:11,720
But we got to change it. Thank you.

720
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:20,680
Okay. Director Horaela, I think I accidentally deleted you earlier in that, right?

721
01:08:21,420 --> 01:08:25,520
Yeah. So go ahead. I think you want to second one.

722
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:29,000
Okay. Thank you, Chair. I appreciate that.

723
01:08:29,220 --> 01:08:31,360
Carmen, can you go to page 22, please?

724
01:08:33,980 --> 01:08:40,640
So, myself and Director Santos attended and directed about attended the Agriculture Committee

725
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:50,020
in yesterday, and we heard a quite a few statements, several were concerning, and referenced

726
01:08:50,020 --> 01:08:51,480
to our infrastructure projects.

727
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:59,460
One was targeting Anderson Dam, suggesting that we should demolish that project entirely,

728
01:08:59,460 --> 01:09:04,260
and going from what it is to perhaps upon that some sort.

729
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:06,340
And I thought, well, that's interesting.

730
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,380
In a community of Santa Clara County,

731
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,180
which exponentially is growing,

732
01:09:14,100 --> 01:09:17,320
although there are some reports that we're losing people.

733
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:18,760
They're moving away from California.

734
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:21,540
Other suggest people are coming to California

735
01:09:21,540 --> 01:09:24,460
because there are job opportunities here.

736
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,620
Earlier, we attended and listened to

737
01:09:28,620 --> 01:09:31,940
of joint venture silicon valley state of the valley index,

738
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:33,720
which is an annual event,

739
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:38,040
but gives you a perspective of what is happening

740
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:39,400
in silicon valley.

741
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,600
And we are the technology center of the planet, essentially.

742
01:09:44,140 --> 01:09:48,100
Others look to the valley as to innovation,

743
01:09:49,020 --> 01:09:52,580
a project development, and cookie cuttering that

744
01:09:52,580 --> 01:09:53,900
and taking to other parts of the world,

745
01:09:54,060 --> 01:09:55,000
and other parts of the country.

746
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:57,780
But that's what we represent, and that's what we are.

747
01:09:58,900 --> 01:09:59,980
And in those meetings,

748
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:10,100
I hear positive comments from various leaders, such as the President of Stanford University, the President

749
01:10:10,100 --> 01:10:17,280
from San Jose State, CSU program, Santa Clara University, and the leadership and education from those

750
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:23,280
institutions about what they see and how they see the growth and development within our communities.

751
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:28,660
And I use the word development because we are growing. Each of our cities, if you look around

752
01:10:28,660 --> 01:10:34,060
with the city of San Jose, he's growing exponentially, city of Morgan Hill, where I live is growing,

753
01:10:34,500 --> 01:10:40,660
city of Morgan Hill, Gilroy is growing, and the unincorporated area of the county is also growing.

754
01:10:42,060 --> 01:10:47,580
At yesterday's agriculture meeting, we heard comments being mentioned that agriculture is

755
01:10:47,580 --> 01:10:56,180
diminishing, that it's dying in the valley, and that we need to look at what we as valley water

756
01:10:56,180 --> 01:11:04,060
are doing to be part of the cause for that diminishing productivity of agriculture within our

757
01:11:04,060 --> 01:11:09,120
county. And primarily in District 1, which is what I represent. And the reason why I wanted

758
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:13,920
us to take a look at this graph in front of a sweet tail agencies. If you look at this graph,

759
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:21,540
and this tells you, is you a view of what other regions in the state, what their costs

760
01:11:21,540 --> 01:11:31,580
are for water, wholesale costs, etc. Now if you go to the bottom part of this chart, that shows

761
01:11:31,580 --> 01:11:40,880
you what valley water costs are in comparing other key residential suburban agricultural regions

762
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:48,480
in the state of California are paid. Our threshold is one of the lowest and cost of water

763
01:11:48,480 --> 01:11:52,820
to our constituents, the two men and people that we

764
01:11:52,820 --> 01:11:56,080
plus or minus, depending on who's counting heads today,

765
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:57,540
that we represent.

766
01:11:58,580 --> 01:12:00,780
That is the bottom line.

767
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:02,840
That tells the whole story.

768
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:05,020
So sure, there are opinions.

769
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:07,900
Very important to listen to those opinions,

770
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:10,640
but that's all they are, are opinions

771
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:14,060
of what they see as what we are not presenting

772
01:12:14,060 --> 01:12:18,280
to the value of what agricultural represents in this area.

773
01:12:19,540 --> 01:12:22,860
Our my perspective on that is, well, just look at the graph.

774
01:12:23,860 --> 01:12:25,000
Now, let me ask you a question.

775
01:12:25,440 --> 01:12:28,620
If the open space credit, if the open space credit did not exist,

776
01:12:29,020 --> 01:12:32,360
if that was not part of the process, what would our water reach be?

777
01:12:33,220 --> 01:12:37,560
Well, for agriculture, the water rate would be the same as that

778
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:39,360
and then I rate within all four zones.

779
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:43,020
And we're projecting the open space credit to provide nearly $13 million.

780
01:12:43,020 --> 01:12:45,800
next year to offset that full cost of revenue.

781
01:12:46,180 --> 01:12:50,640
So that keeps the cost of water at a much lower rate.

782
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:55,380
And without that in place, the agricultural rate

783
01:12:55,380 --> 01:12:58,140
should be the same as every community in the county, essentially.

784
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:03,120
Our agricultural rates would be the same as the M&I rates by zone.

785
01:13:03,440 --> 01:13:04,320
OK, that's it.

786
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:05,160
As I went over earlier.

787
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:05,860
OK, by zone.

788
01:13:06,440 --> 01:13:09,480
So again, I want to repeat that yesterday's meeting

789
01:13:09,480 --> 01:13:11,260
was rather contentious.

790
01:13:11,260 --> 01:13:19,600
There was vitriol, there was anger, there was finger pointing at valley water, and I'm thinking,

791
01:13:20,480 --> 01:13:22,220
you know, this is really interesting.

792
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:29,880
I know Director Santos and I am Dr. Bell have said on other agriculture water agencies up and down the region.

793
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:36,880
From San Luis, Delta, Mendoza, which is the breadbasket and some people's opinions of the entire United States,

794
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,140
from Bakersfield to Sacramento.

795
01:13:41,020 --> 01:13:44,380
Water resares, like Westland's water,

796
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:49,180
Bryant, and other major water providers in that region.

797
01:13:49,860 --> 01:13:52,580
And we never hear these kinds of discussions or arguments

798
01:13:52,580 --> 01:13:55,120
from the largest agricultural center in the planet

799
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:59,980
on the West Coast, from the central coast

800
01:13:59,980 --> 01:14:02,240
from Santa Barbara to San Francisco.

801
01:14:02,740 --> 01:14:05,120
The salad bowl from Salinas, Monterey,

802
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:09,640
The Santa Cruz region of farmers that ice it on their boards along with director Santos.

803
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:15,580
We don't hear the complaints that we're hearing here from the agriculture community.

804
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:17,440
So I personally don't get it.

805
01:14:17,740 --> 01:14:19,040
I really don't.

806
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:23,400
Yeah, they're requesting certain things and we're going to perform.

807
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:25,840
We're going to give them the information that they request.

808
01:14:28,210 --> 01:14:30,590
Ask in the board to delay our process.

809
01:14:30,970 --> 01:14:33,190
Well, that's a question whether or not we choose to do that.

810
01:14:33,230 --> 01:14:35,650
That's an action decision that could be made by this board.

811
01:14:35,650 --> 01:14:40,530
So I just wanted to give you one director's perspective on what agriculture now.

812
01:14:41,010 --> 01:14:42,430
Do we need farming in this region?

813
01:14:42,910 --> 01:14:43,550
Is it important?

814
01:14:43,690 --> 01:14:44,130
Absolutely.

815
01:14:44,610 --> 01:14:45,130
It is.

816
01:14:45,830 --> 01:14:52,950
But from their own mouths, they're saying agriculture in this region is dying from their own mouths.

817
01:14:53,870 --> 01:14:58,330
I don't see that happening, but they know things I don't though, because that's how I make my living.

818
01:14:58,390 --> 01:14:59,190
They do that.

819
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:05,900
I see it friday. In the regions where I live, most of the farming area is located.

820
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:13,340
So, again, it's an opinion, but that's my opinion. That's what I see. That's what I want to say to you.

821
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:18,860
Okay, thank you. The next one is Director Bell.

822
01:15:22,700 --> 01:15:29,200
appreciate their presentation. I know we're going to be working on this over the next

823
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:36,580
month with the public, my colleagues, and staff.

824
01:15:39,440 --> 01:15:44,020
So my question is on the fiscal financial

825
01:15:44,020 --> 01:15:54,000
outlook of the water utility systems. Can I ask a question? Does conservation save the tax

826
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:55,260
Okay.

827
01:15:58,750 --> 01:15:59,030
Pardon?

828
01:15:59,970 --> 01:16:00,230
Yes.

829
01:16:00,350 --> 01:16:01,350
In the long run it does.

830
01:16:04,210 --> 01:16:11,490
Is there an indication in this budget anywhere, and I'm looking at the financial outlook,

831
01:16:12,010 --> 01:16:18,030
exactly how much money or what's our proposed conservation, water conservation,

832
01:16:20,950 --> 01:16:21,690
budget would

833
01:16:21,690 --> 01:16:33,130
what kind of action specifically and in a way where we can evaluate whether or not we're doing

834
01:16:33,130 --> 01:16:39,450
the best we can because we'll save money. We'll save money. So are we doing the best

835
01:16:39,450 --> 01:16:50,930
we can and what other things can we do? That is to me, something I don't see here and

836
01:16:50,930 --> 01:16:55,790
maybe you can get some supplemental information on that, okay.

837
01:16:58,030 --> 01:17:04,710
The other part is that we turned to that, I guess it's the estimated

838
01:17:04,710 --> 01:17:10,010
conservation, you know, how much, you know, we're spending, you know, I'm saying,

839
01:17:10,170 --> 01:17:14,010
we're going down to Home Depot, we're going down to Lowes, we're buying all kinds of plants,

840
01:17:14,750 --> 01:17:20,610
we're going, we're going in to put in drip irrigation systems, all that all

841
01:17:20,610 --> 01:17:30,110
homeowners are having projects and we're building modern buildings that have better

842
01:17:30,110 --> 01:17:31,010
conservation.

843
01:17:34,410 --> 01:17:44,490
What kind of savings do we attribute to conservation? When I look at the chart

844
01:17:44,490 --> 01:17:54,190
on page 8 there. It looks like essentially none. No, no, no, no attribution of conservation.

845
01:17:56,730 --> 01:18:05,150
And I think actually we're projecting a pretty good increase in water usage over the next

846
01:18:05,150 --> 01:18:16,590
for four years, that kind of flattens out a little bit, but my concern is that we talk

847
01:18:16,590 --> 01:18:25,530
about the drought bounce back, but we should also be talking about the laws, the technological

848
01:18:25,530 --> 01:18:27,050
improvements on construction,

849
01:18:29,090 --> 01:18:38,730
all the water conservation efforts that we can institute, which

850
01:18:38,730 --> 01:18:49,870
are really cost effective in terms of spending our taxpayer's money to protect the taxpayer

851
01:18:49,870 --> 01:18:58,490
from large rating increases. The other thing that conservation does is it allows us a little

852
01:18:58,490 --> 01:19:03,970
more flexibility on looking long range in terms of when we need some of these major capital

853
01:19:03,970 --> 01:19:05,050
improvement programs.

854
01:19:07,730 --> 01:19:12,210
If you plan to capital budget over a long period of time and you have

855
01:19:12,210 --> 01:19:22,310
little bit extra conservation. Maybe you don't need to complete them in an expeditious

856
01:19:22,310 --> 01:19:29,910
quick manner. Maybe you have a little more time to look at how we're doing on conservation.

857
01:19:31,030 --> 01:19:44,600
And I think it's worth something to look at. When I looked at source of supply in the

858
01:19:48,790 --> 01:19:53,890
I'd like to know what the total cost of all the projects that relate to importing water is.

859
01:19:54,090 --> 01:19:58,730
Okay, we import what percentage of our water is imported, like 40 percent, right?

860
01:19:59,050 --> 01:19:59,970
40, plus the future.

861
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:07,260
You see another 10%. Well, if you take out the P.C. part and look at the other 40 percent, how much money

862
01:20:07,260 --> 01:20:12,440
are we spending on all the projects? I'm talking going from sites, I'm talking to Delta

863
01:20:12,440 --> 01:20:20,020
Companions, which I just spent all day, Thursday, touring, talking to him about it,

864
01:20:25,980 --> 01:20:26,940
learning, learning

865
01:20:26,940 --> 01:20:36,820
Now upgrade fixed, the cis dam raise, the pipelines in our county that we are building,

866
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:42,060
the rehabilitation of those pipelines over the, we're going to do some rehabilitation

867
01:20:42,060 --> 01:20:46,860
over the next 50 years I assume, the pipes I'm going to last forever, we have to fix them

868
01:20:46,860 --> 01:20:49,920
everyone's, you know, every few years.

869
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:54,140
So what is total cost of the importing water,

870
01:20:56,460 --> 01:21:00,340
and how is that fit into this?

871
01:21:00,340 --> 01:21:02,120
What is the cost of that?

872
01:21:02,980 --> 01:21:05,100
So I would like to answer this on that.

873
01:21:06,500 --> 01:21:16,790
The other thing I noticed in the report, I tried to find out, okay, we were talking about

874
01:21:17,730 --> 01:21:25,190
For my tenure here, I've been talking about, I know the board has been supporting this,

875
01:21:26,470 --> 01:21:29,090
trying to get the advanced water purification program.

876
01:21:30,310 --> 01:21:38,490
And what we were talking about was we wanted to put an emphasis not just on the so-called

877
01:21:38,490 --> 01:21:44,290
test advanced water treatment facility, but the bigger picture

878
01:21:45,950 --> 01:21:51,530
facility, and I noticed that in the budget that they have the financial

879
01:21:51,530 --> 01:21:57,270
outlook in some page 59, it says it is an unfunded capital improvement

880
01:21:57,270 --> 01:21:59,270
program. It's not funded.

881
01:22:01,440 --> 01:22:04,920
So that's not been considered in this particular

882
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:09,620
plant. So it's is unfunded.

883
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:22,180
A lot of the cost of capital projects has since 2020, 2019,

884
01:22:22,300 --> 01:22:29,300
you know, pre-COVID, COVID hit us, all the capital budgets went airy, you know, these

885
01:22:29,300 --> 01:22:32,620
to go up, like, for what 4%, I think,

886
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:35,800
cow transges to say, 4%, 5% infrastructure,

887
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:40,100
cost increase, no longer since 2019.

888
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:43,740
I mean, we're talking, like, 10, 12%, correct?

889
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:53,210
So the question is, on this, how much cost increase

890
01:22:53,210 --> 01:22:59,050
are we using as a reasonable estimate based on the last five

891
01:22:59,050 --> 01:23:01,350
and it's based on certain things.

892
01:23:01,550 --> 01:23:05,730
It's based on supply, materials, labor costs,

893
01:23:06,270 --> 01:23:07,730
those things are going up.

894
01:23:07,770 --> 01:23:11,190
Labor supply shortage, it's an index.

895
01:23:11,490 --> 01:23:14,330
And we see they evaluate this very carefully.

896
01:23:15,670 --> 01:23:16,590
And it's an index.

897
01:23:17,450 --> 01:23:19,370
And it goes up and up and up.

898
01:23:19,450 --> 01:23:27,310
And we're looking at 10, since COVID, 10, 12% a year.

899
01:23:27,310 --> 01:23:31,090
I mean it goes up and down sometimes more than that, sometimes a little less,

900
01:23:33,310 --> 01:23:34,670
so we see what

901
01:23:34,670 --> 01:23:41,110
happened with the Anderson Project, what happened quite a bit, and you know, I don't blame the staff,

902
01:23:41,290 --> 01:23:50,210
I don't blame the board, I don't blame anybody, it's a bigger global national international

903
01:23:51,430 --> 01:23:52,510
issue, okay?

904
01:23:54,590 --> 01:23:58,470
Because the supply shortage is affecting the whole world, basically.

905
01:23:59,410 --> 01:24:04,870
Steel, where are you going to get steel? Where are you going to get materials? Labor shortage

906
01:24:04,870 --> 01:24:10,070
people are not working anymore. We need to have more people working. Where are you going

907
01:24:10,070 --> 01:24:17,810
to get those people? So in terms of this budget though, where what is real, how does that relate

908
01:24:17,810 --> 01:24:25,770
to the projected costs, construction costs, indexes that we see in general since in other places.

909
01:24:26,150 --> 01:24:30,650
You know, do we have a, understand, now I've asked this before, I never really got an answer

910
01:24:30,650 --> 01:24:31,470
of this.

911
01:24:31,870 --> 01:24:38,370
That had no response, but I want to get the answer on that and I want it in writing and I want

912
01:24:38,370 --> 01:24:41,130
it for the public to peruse so we can have a discussion.

913
01:24:41,130 --> 01:24:55,090
Okay, so the groundwater is the groundwater program, a cost effective in terms of your water supply.

914
01:24:58,430 --> 01:24:58,510
Yes.

915
01:24:58,990 --> 01:24:59,330
Yes.

916
01:24:59,530 --> 01:24:59,710
Yes.

917
01:25:01,980 --> 01:25:15,500
So is there a way we can maximize the groundwater recaptured programs? Do we have a better plan on that? Is there some options we could take?

918
01:25:17,660 --> 01:25:25,080
We need to look at, we want to, this is like a 10-year thing. We're not just looking at the budget or five-year looking over 10-year.

919
01:25:25,780 --> 01:25:38,740
So, the groundwater recapture, I think, could be a viable answer to people that are concerned

920
01:25:40,460 --> 01:25:45,920
about the rating creases, they could say, well, we can save water, we can do this, we

921
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:46,800
could be smart.

922
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:56,140
We could try to expedite some of these cost-effective, smarter scale kind

923
01:25:56,140 --> 01:26:00,500
of projects all over the county. Some of the guys at the Ag meeting yesterday talked

924
01:26:00,500 --> 01:26:10,000
about pawns, you know, things like that. I mean, there were sometimes that's feasible,

925
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:17,320
sometime it isn't. So I'm making my comments here. I'm not forming conclusions. I'm asking for

926
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:24,200
information. I want information. I've asked for some of this before. When I went out of the

927
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:29,860
Delta, I said, you know, I only asked one question, the whole tour. You know what the question was?

928
01:26:31,340 --> 01:26:33,880
When was your cost estimate done?

929
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:39,340
Because you know how I am. I want to know if it was done.

930
01:26:39,340 --> 01:26:49,500
yesterday and it was, you know, it was done, it was done in 2020 and in 2019 so I was

931
01:26:49,500 --> 01:26:53,200
saying, okay, you estimate $20 billion.

932
01:26:57,950 --> 01:27:04,230
2019 numbers, what's the 2025 number? What's

933
01:27:04,230 --> 01:27:12,460
the 2030 number? I think it's very important when we talk about these large-scale

934
01:27:14,220 --> 01:27:21,140
construction projects to be transparent about what the cost to date and in the future

935
01:27:21,140 --> 01:27:29,120
during our water supply discussion, setting rates for people, tell them how much taxes

936
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:35,240
they're going to have to pay. I don't like to go in and say, well, you're going to have

937
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:42,340
a $8, $10 increase per month over $100 a year and then say, well, we made a little

938
01:27:42,340 --> 01:27:48,240
state because we got this bill from this and we got bill from this construction project and

939
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:52,780
now it's going to be $200 so you can have another $100 and

940
01:27:55,310 --> 01:27:56,710
that's why that's why we have

941
01:27:56,710 --> 01:28:02,250
to be honest and when we're making decisions we base it on what's the most cost effective.

942
01:28:04,030 --> 01:28:11,690
What's the most cost effective? So when we throw out things because we're using numbers that

943
01:28:11,690 --> 01:28:21,910
no good. That is not being a good fiscal watchdog. So I want to be a good fiscal watchdog

944
01:28:21,910 --> 01:28:28,690
in doing this plan. And I'm asking these questions so that we get answers. And I'd

945
01:28:28,690 --> 01:28:31,190
like to have the staff to have a chance to give me the answers.

946
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:34,280
Because I know I can get

947
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:40,220
the answers elsewhere. But I'd like to have the staff, you know, let's get the real answers

948
01:28:40,220 --> 01:28:46,340
year. I've asked them before. I want the answers. Thank you.

949
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:49,560
Director Keegan.

950
01:28:51,700 --> 01:28:55,960
Thank you and thank you to staff for a very thorough presentation.

951
01:28:56,280 --> 01:29:04,060
And I'd also like to thank my colleagues today for bringing up a number of important ideas.

952
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:10,140
Some questions that might be helpful, not just for the board, but for the community to have a better

953
01:29:10,140 --> 01:29:22,800
understanding of what's going on here. I'm a few specific questions if we look at page 14 of attachment to that shows the infrastructure.

954
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:25,300
Great.

955
01:29:27,500 --> 01:29:34,860
So I really like this graphic because it's helpful for people. They're able to look at, okay, here's North County, here's South County, here's what's shared.

956
01:29:34,860 --> 01:29:41,380
So, I still always have this feeling that advanced purified water, since it improves overall

957
01:29:41,380 --> 01:29:47,620
system reliability, is something that should be a shared cost, but I'll save that argument

958
01:29:47,620 --> 01:29:49,020
for another time.

959
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:58,300
Looking at the shared projects, Anderson Coyote, Pacheco, and the imported water from the Central

960
01:29:58,300 --> 01:29:59,220
Valley Project.

961
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:04,620
How do we allocate those costs between North County and South County?

962
01:30:06,900 --> 01:30:08,700
Thank you, Director. I can put a question.

963
01:30:09,620 --> 01:30:16,700
So we use several different allocation methods to allocate costs between North and South County, and it really comes down to the benefits provided.

964
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:24,340
So for imported water, it could be based on the volume of water, right? That is used in North County versus the South County zones.

965
01:30:24,540 --> 01:30:27,700
We therefore allocate those costs based on that relative proportion.

966
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:38,430
So given the fact that

967
01:30:40,480 --> 01:31:01,920
South County has a lot of agriculture, they actually use more water but they're getting a diminished charge, if you will, but in terms of like individual homeowners, so less water means less people in South County, more water consumption because there's more people in North County.

968
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:10,420
But looking at the average household, what would be, are they paying relatively equal costs for that?

969
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:17,900
If I could go back to the common on the egg rate, just briefly, if you don't mind.

970
01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:24,580
So about half the water, district manage water use in South County is egg, right?

971
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:29,640
And that's, we do have the lower rate, it's offset by the open space credit, right?

972
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:37,020
and so that's non-brain revenue being used to offset those costs. Now when you ask about the average

973
01:31:37,020 --> 01:31:42,420
household, do you mean a well owner or do you mean a retail customer, like a Morgan Hill or

974
01:31:42,420 --> 01:31:47,080
Gayle? I'd say probably the easiest way would be a retail customer because that way we're

975
01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:52,900
comparing apples to apples, right? Because most of the residents or water users in North County

976
01:31:52,900 --> 01:31:59,320
are retail users. Sure, and so I guess I would respond that if you're a retail customer,

977
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:04,780
Morgan Hill are you pay for their cost on top of the cost of the wholesale water that they

978
01:32:04,780 --> 01:32:09,800
pump from the ground that we provide and it's based on their distribution system in their

979
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:14,900
own infrastructure and so their rates would be relatively similar but still different.

980
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:20,380
Perhaps I'm not understanding your question clearly.

981
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:30,590
I guess that I just want to make sure that like, you know, I have many low-income residents

982
01:32:30,590 --> 01:32:39,490
in my community, Director Estromera has even more, and those people are more impacted by

983
01:32:39,490 --> 01:32:47,130
these increases in water rates, right? And so I just want to see that it's an equitable split.

984
01:32:47,230 --> 01:32:55,780
If the costs are increasing by, you know, I don't know, let's say $5 on someone's bill,

985
01:32:55,980 --> 01:33:01,640
because these shared things, is it roughly equivalent to $5 in North County and the $5 in

986
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:05,960
South County or is it $5.00 in North County and $1.50 in South County?

987
01:33:06,340 --> 01:33:10,800
I just want to know if there's a certain level of parity and I don't have an intuitive

988
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:12,780
understanding of that.

989
01:33:13,220 --> 01:33:19,760
I think I can answer that question by saying that our wholesale water rates are different

990
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:21,040
across different zones.

991
01:33:21,660 --> 01:33:28,180
So in Zone W2, what staff is recommending is an increase in the wholesale water rate that

992
01:33:28,180 --> 01:33:34,900
impact an average homeowner to the tune of just under nine dollars per month, whereas the wholesale

993
01:33:34,900 --> 01:33:40,440
water rate recommended increase in the South County ranges from a dollar to three dollars.

994
01:33:40,980 --> 01:33:48,120
In terms of impact to the average homeowner, and in our costs are based on the benefits provided

995
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:55,120
in each particular zone. So the graphic here is meant to show why is there a different rate

996
01:33:55,120 --> 01:34:00,640
amongst the different zones. It's not meant to reflect decision making into the future with

997
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:06,500
regard to water supply projects. It's meant to show that given this infrastructure and

998
01:34:06,500 --> 01:34:11,520
the costs and weigh the water flows through that infrastructure based on how the water

999
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:16,940
flows, for example, for Anderson Dam, 80% of the water flows to North County, 20% of

1000
01:34:16,940 --> 01:34:21,460
water flows for South County. Therefore, North County bears 80% of the cost of that product,

1001
01:34:21,460 --> 01:34:24,520
South County bears 20% of the cost of that project.

1002
01:34:24,860 --> 01:34:30,320
So our costs flow in the way that infrastructure

1003
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:34,480
or is driven by infrastructure as our rates are today.

1004
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:38,240
So what's the population difference between North County

1005
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:43,180
and South County wouldn't that be in the 80, 20 kind of range?

1006
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:46,160
And that's all factored into the rate projection, right?

1007
01:34:46,500 --> 01:34:48,800
So when you think about your costs

1008
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:57,680
And the simple calculation of your water rates is costs divided by water use, or based on your water use, right?

1009
01:34:58,140 --> 01:34:59,980
So the population is going to...

1010
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:05,900
Use a certain amount of water. So that's all reflected in the water rates that we are projecting here for you today.

1011
01:35:07,100 --> 01:35:12,960
I guess I need to see some more detailed information on that. So if staff could provide that, it would be helpful.

1012
01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:30,820
Thank you so much. And if we look at, if we look at page 15 and we look at the cost increases that we're looking at.

1013
01:35:33,260 --> 01:35:43,600
A big driver for these increase increases in the groundwater, charge is due to our CIP, correct?

1014
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:45,220
Yes, that is correct.

1015
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:52,540
So what percentage of the increase would we say?

1016
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:56,380
So we're like North County, 12.9 percent of that, 12.9 percent.

1017
01:35:56,440 --> 01:36:01,020
How many percentages are related to infrastructure?

1018
01:36:04,670 --> 01:36:06,230
And if you don't have an answer.

1019
01:36:06,630 --> 01:36:07,110
Yeah, thank you.

1020
01:36:07,470 --> 01:36:08,670
It's a good question.

1021
01:36:09,090 --> 01:36:09,370
It's a good question.

1022
01:36:09,370 --> 01:36:10,090
It's a good question.

1023
01:36:10,550 --> 01:36:12,330
We could come back with that information.

1024
01:36:12,650 --> 01:36:16,950
And I'd also just like to highlight the information that was presented at the March 26th

1025
01:36:16,950 --> 01:36:22,990
Board meeting, where we broke down this, where we broke down by zone,

1026
01:36:23,570 --> 01:36:26,890
our, what's included in our rates with those incremental capital investments.

1027
01:36:27,350 --> 01:36:29,790
So we, but we can get back with that information.

1028
01:36:30,470 --> 01:36:37,030
You know how it is, the first time you hear something, you need that power of repetition, right, to hear it over and over again.

1029
01:36:37,350 --> 01:36:46,010
So thank you for that. And then, you know, lastly, I just have to say,

1030
01:36:50,290 --> 01:36:56,350
over the last 12 years, this is my 12th time of going through something like this.

1031
01:36:56,350 --> 01:37:00,530
I've been questioned by constituents on our groundwater,

1032
01:37:02,630 --> 01:37:06,350
charge, increasing on the cost of water to them, increasing.

1033
01:37:07,870 --> 01:37:09,090
And I've defended that.

1034
01:37:09,090 --> 01:37:12,270
I've said, you know, we're making a reinvestment and infrastructure.

1035
01:37:12,810 --> 01:37:17,470
There's things that we need to do, deferred maintenance from the past.

1036
01:37:17,690 --> 01:37:20,370
And I felt comfortable with my response.

1037
01:37:20,370 --> 01:37:27,890
But I have to say, I think we've reached a point where I no longer feel that it's

1038
01:37:27,890 --> 01:37:29,790
defensible in that same way.

1039
01:37:30,270 --> 01:37:36,550
I really think, and when we talk about the CIP, I think that's the opportunity for talking

1040
01:37:36,550 --> 01:37:37,750
further about it.

1041
01:37:37,950 --> 01:37:48,070
But I feel like our CIP, we need to scrutinize it more carefully as director Bell was saying,

1042
01:37:48,070 --> 01:37:52,930
Maybe there is an opportunity to defer some projects,

1043
01:37:54,250 --> 01:37:57,870
maybe even, you know, downscale some projects.

1044
01:37:57,990 --> 01:38:01,230
Whatever it might be, or even the validity of some projects.

1045
01:38:01,390 --> 01:38:06,210
I think that if I felt like we'd exhausted all those things,

1046
01:38:06,290 --> 01:38:10,470
I could get back to the point where I'd be able to defend these projects

1047
01:38:10,470 --> 01:38:12,730
or, you know, these costing creases.

1048
01:38:13,270 --> 01:38:15,970
And I've a feeling that what we hear from the water condition,

1049
01:38:16,530 --> 01:38:21,270
They're not going to be happy about these either and those are the people that we have

1050
01:38:21,270 --> 01:38:26,090
to respond to because they represent our constituents in the individual communities.

1051
01:38:27,690 --> 01:38:33,810
So thank you again for the presentation and if I could have those questions answered it would be

1052
01:38:33,810 --> 01:38:34,110
wonderful.

1053
01:38:34,390 --> 01:38:34,930
Thank you so much.

1054
01:38:35,490 --> 01:38:36,610
Thank you.

1055
01:38:45,390 --> 01:38:45,950
Okay.

1056
01:38:45,950 --> 01:38:49,730
of our capital improvements continues to come up.

1057
01:38:50,030 --> 01:38:55,770
We're not reviewing that we need these infrastructure like we haven't put off a number of projects.

1058
01:38:56,490 --> 01:39:08,790
So I really do think that we ought to have a work study session where we do review the CIP because it's important for us to look at every single one of the projects.

1059
01:39:09,570 --> 01:39:12,950
I know that some of the projects in my own district have been put off.

1060
01:39:14,190 --> 01:39:17,150
There's a number and other districts that have been put off.

1061
01:39:19,090 --> 01:39:26,550
I don't think that we have time halls here, but the only way that people are going to

1062
01:39:26,550 --> 01:39:32,930
believe that is for us to review it and show it, because as we continue to mention, when

1063
01:39:32,930 --> 01:39:40,570
a situation where we have to rebuild a lot of our infrastructure, much of our infrastructure

1064
01:39:40,570 --> 01:39:46,010
isn't seen. It's not like you drive down the street and you see all our pipes hanging out and

1065
01:39:46,010 --> 01:39:53,890
you see them being destroyed. We don't want to wait until they start blowing up and flooding neighborhoods.

1066
01:39:55,290 --> 01:39:59,970
So we need to talk about that. I think for us to have a committee that looks like

1067
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:10,000
We're looking at it once in a while. We're looking at it once for each project when it comes up or when it's absolutely necessary to do.

1068
01:40:11,140 --> 01:40:17,380
It's fine for us, but I think it's important for the public to look at what it is that we're doing.

1069
01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:26,260
They're just like when we talk to people in the neighborhoods who have a treatment plan.

1070
01:40:27,340 --> 01:40:35,820
In their neighborhood, why they haven't there, what it means, what protections we provide for it,

1071
01:40:35,820 --> 01:40:37,120
why it costs so much more.

1072
01:40:37,880 --> 01:40:43,420
It's why when we have public hearings, it costs us a lot to have public hearings.

1073
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:45,240
Why?

1074
01:40:45,900 --> 01:40:48,860
Because we have to review what's going on.

1075
01:40:49,180 --> 01:40:52,280
We have to have a lot of staff present.

1076
01:40:52,580 --> 01:40:54,620
We have to have contractors present.

1077
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:57,160
So then we can add some questions and we can make presentations.

1078
01:40:57,740 --> 01:40:58,580
So all of that costs.

1079
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:00,320
But it's value.

1080
01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:01,220
It's necessary.

1081
01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:03,560
And we want to provide that.

1082
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:05,220
What is the same thing for infrastructure?

1083
01:41:05,220 --> 01:41:09,240
in that situation where we're, well, gee,

1084
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:15,200
what can, what can we do? We've got, we've got to make up infrastructure.

1085
01:41:16,300 --> 01:41:22,960
I never forget when direct the census knife went to a public meeting there in, in very, yes or?

1086
01:41:23,200 --> 01:41:31,560
Well, the neighborhood thought that we, we need to look for projects to build because we got nothing else to do.

1087
01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:39,920
And the folks ran stuff out and said, you know, get lost, we don't want these projects, get out of here.

1088
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:42,760
And then we have to come back and say, wait a minute.

1089
01:41:43,740 --> 01:41:45,720
We don't have a problem if you don't want the project.

1090
01:41:46,860 --> 01:41:48,570
But we don't want you to come back to us.

1091
01:41:49,780 --> 01:41:50,060
Okay?

1092
01:41:50,440 --> 01:41:57,650
When you have the situation that we had in 2017, and in President's day,

1093
01:41:57,650 --> 01:42:03,920
and then get in and date it and then come back to us and say, why did you do some about it?

1094
01:42:04,890 --> 01:42:11,970
So we don't run around looking for projects to create infrastructure because that's the business we're in.

1095
01:42:12,310 --> 01:42:15,900
We're doing it because it relates to public safety in those cases.

1096
01:42:16,690 --> 01:42:23,690
And each one of our projects that are flood control related projects are all related to public safety.

1097
01:42:23,690 --> 01:42:40,310
And secondly, the infrastructure projects that we have is because we don't want to come back with a destroyed infrastructure like the feds did and end up having to pay three times as much because we didn't maintain it correctly.

1098
01:42:41,570 --> 01:42:48,370
So we have to review these projects in public so that people can see what it is that we're doing.

1099
01:42:48,370 --> 01:42:54,930
I agree. That's what we need to do. So I think we need to have a study where we review the projects.

1100
01:42:55,690 --> 01:43:01,450
So we can have people come up here and say, we don't want this project in our neighborhood. It's okay if we get flooded.

1101
01:43:02,090 --> 01:43:06,750
We don't mind. It's all right. Because we want to save three dollars.

1102
01:43:08,570 --> 01:43:10,070
That's what I think we need to do.

1103
01:43:11,570 --> 01:43:26,330
Okay, thank you. Actually, I agree. I think that's a good idea that I'm thinking that maybe our stoichi particularly they want to utility projects since the entire

1104
01:43:26,330 --> 01:43:31,270
While the utility is a infrastructure is a system,

1105
01:43:32,410 --> 01:43:34,790
it cannot be cutting to pieces.

1106
01:43:35,490 --> 01:43:36,510
It's a county-wise system.

1107
01:43:37,250 --> 01:43:40,890
So putting that aside, I was just thinking

1108
01:43:40,890 --> 01:43:45,590
that maybe the April 20 nice strategic planning session

1109
01:43:45,590 --> 01:43:47,770
will be a good opportunity to dedicate

1110
01:43:47,770 --> 01:43:52,670
a significant portion of that issue for that issue.

1111
01:43:52,670 --> 01:44:02,670
If we cannot get these basic stuff, I'll figure it out and everybody is on the same place

1112
01:44:02,670 --> 01:44:11,470
and talking about our strategies for the future, I think it's probably only NASA's stable foundation.

1113
01:44:12,430 --> 01:44:20,130
So our work with the CEOC, how do we structure that and then the opportunities to do that in April 2019?

1114
01:44:20,130 --> 01:44:26,410
Okay, so at this point, I do want to, okay, vice chair.

1115
01:44:27,510 --> 01:44:28,290
Yes, thank you, Madam Chair.

1116
01:44:28,450 --> 01:44:32,090
Since everybody was talking pros and cons on mysville,

1117
01:44:32,390 --> 01:44:35,330
see a few things like we've been teaching each other here.

1118
01:44:35,410 --> 01:44:37,430
We have opinions and then we have facts.

1119
01:44:38,330 --> 01:44:40,770
And as far as I'm concerned, I have facts.

1120
01:44:42,230 --> 01:44:42,710
I agree.

1121
01:44:42,870 --> 01:44:43,830
We need public education.

1122
01:44:44,070 --> 01:44:46,270
There's no question that's what we should be doing all the time,

1123
01:44:46,270 --> 01:44:46,910
but we continue.

1124
01:44:47,590 --> 01:44:49,270
I'm very satisfied with our staff and

1125
01:44:49,270 --> 01:44:53,430
CEO and the majority of this board has been doing for years.

1126
01:44:54,290 --> 01:44:59,970
Years ago, the buck was passed to us because of previous boards that didn't take pre-planet for the future.

1127
01:45:00,210 --> 01:45:16,970
As I've said over and over and over, it's just like police in California. We don't have enough dams for the future. I got mine. Do we want less police officers? No, the public said it's just the opposite. And I'm saying the same thing.

1128
01:45:18,790 --> 01:45:24,710
of a relic that I like it was, Tony says it like it is, so does chair shoe.

1129
01:45:25,970 --> 01:45:33,110
We are planning for the future. We got ours. We want your grandkids and great grandchildren to have a source of reliable water.

1130
01:45:33,450 --> 01:45:42,630
That's why we plead plan. That's why people keep on telling you like fellow busters about a bunch of stuff that sticks to the wall and preaching you can confuse.

1131
01:45:43,190 --> 01:45:46,290
aquifers are wonderful. We've got our awards because we have a great

1132
01:45:46,290 --> 01:45:51,810
aquifer, a water-managed plant, but it don't last forever. You need that

1133
01:45:51,810 --> 01:45:55,990
this water stories. Just a couple years ago we had the packed house

1134
01:45:55,990 --> 01:45:59,930
tell us, we need water. What are we going to do? Because the important one to

1135
01:45:59,930 --> 01:46:05,410
$2,000 an acre foot. So we're trying to use all the water we have here before we

1136
01:46:05,410 --> 01:46:12,610
buy other water that costs way too much, 50% or more. We have a great

1137
01:46:12,610 --> 01:46:18,410
aquifer plan, we have damped, that need to be completed, and nine of them has seismic conditions.

1138
01:46:18,990 --> 01:46:25,450
We didn't build them, we inherited them. We have to pay for them. It takes money. You pay now,

1139
01:46:25,570 --> 01:46:31,750
you pay more in damage control. Serity is going to rain. Wonderful, but it don't rain forever.

1140
01:46:32,350 --> 01:46:38,150
So we have to recapture. Find out the best way of doing it and so on. We have so many things,

1141
01:46:38,150 --> 01:46:47,250
But here's the main thing, what this staff and this board, the majority has been doing, planning for the future, and you can't live without water.

1142
01:46:47,590 --> 01:46:55,610
All the other things somehow you can make it, but you can't. You got the best water in California, quality of water, prices are down.

1143
01:46:56,590 --> 01:47:06,090
Just think what would you do if you didn't have water, and droughts follow storms, and pretty soon you'll all be here a couple of years since they say, what are we going to do?

1144
01:47:06,090 --> 01:47:10,430
We need funding, but you'd rather pay now than pay later.

1145
01:47:10,930 --> 01:47:15,530
It's less now than it will be later, and I hope everybody has water for the future for

1146
01:47:15,530 --> 01:47:16,410
your children.

1147
01:47:16,950 --> 01:47:17,630
Thank you.

1148
01:47:21,140 --> 01:47:28,540
At this point, I do not have any requests for board members to know in the public.

1149
01:47:29,220 --> 01:47:34,940
So this public hearing, again, thank you staff for your great work, this public hearing

1150
01:47:34,940 --> 01:47:41,160
will continue, and we will close the public here in April 23rd.

1151
01:47:41,340 --> 01:47:48,600
So you have now until April 23rd, I'll just time to submit your comment to us related

1152
01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:50,580
to the groundwater protection charges.

1153
01:47:51,100 --> 01:47:55,320
And now we will go back to our regular agenda.

1154
01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:59,360
The next item is item 3.5.

1155
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:02,960
It is also a public hearing.

1156
01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:07,840
So, I have my prepared statement to read first.

1157
01:48:09,540 --> 01:48:12,980
Item 3.5 is the public hearing

1158
01:48:12,980 --> 01:48:15,240
to consider value-waters,

1159
01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:17,200
capital improvement program,

1160
01:48:17,280 --> 01:48:19,780
draft capital improvement program.

1161
01:48:20,180 --> 01:48:24,100
For fiscal year 2025 through 2029,

1162
01:48:24,340 --> 01:48:26,080
this is a five-year plan.

1163
01:48:27,780 --> 01:48:31,640
And the public hearing is to consider value-waters

1164
01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:43,360
the CIP and February 27, 2024, the board directed staff to update the CIP draft fiscal year

1165
01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:51,600
2025 through 29, five-year plan prior to release for public review to reflect the staff

1166
01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:59,060
recommended assumptions presented in the 2024 protection and augmentation of water supply reports.

1167
01:48:59,060 --> 01:49:10,000
So these two documents are greatly related to each other, one feed into the other.

1168
01:49:10,540 --> 01:49:19,160
Following this direction on March 13, 2024, the update is the IP draft fiscal year 25 through 29.

1169
01:49:19,160 --> 01:49:25,160
five year plan was released to all cities and land use authorities in Santa

1170
01:49:25,160 --> 01:49:32,420
Card County and the county of Santa Clara for review as to its consistency with the

1171
01:49:32,420 --> 01:49:36,800
general, with their individual agencies general class.

1172
01:49:37,240 --> 01:49:44,920
Pursuant to California government code 65403D before adopting a

1173
01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:51,920
important program, the governing body of a special district is required to hold at least one

1174
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:59,300
public hearing. And that's what we're doing in the under-dis item. The public hearing is being

1175
01:49:59,300 --> 01:49:59,960
out of.

1176
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:18,660
For value waters, five year plan, so that representatives of the city, townships, county, or the public may appear in the mid-commence and information to the Board of Directors regarding this draft five year CIP plan.

1177
01:50:20,380 --> 01:50:38,300
So welcome to the public hearing for the five-year step, five-year CIP, if you would like to provide comments on this item, please submit a speaker card to the clerk or use the raise hand to a tool located in the Zoom.

1178
01:50:38,300 --> 01:50:45,700
I will recognize speakers one at a time and to give access to make comments.

1179
01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:50,260
Speakers comments should be limited to three minutes.

1180
01:50:51,320 --> 01:50:55,700
We will now receive the public comments to consider very well as five-year plan.

1181
01:50:56,000 --> 01:51:01,180
So apparently there is no staff presentation on the draft CFP plan.

1182
01:51:01,200 --> 01:51:02,560
There's no plan to do that.

1183
01:51:02,740 --> 01:51:03,500
No presentation.

1184
01:51:03,740 --> 01:51:04,500
No presentation.

1185
01:51:04,500 --> 01:51:08,740
So we'll go directly into the public comment period.

1186
01:51:09,740 --> 01:51:12,040
So if you have comment, as I said earlier,

1187
01:51:12,600 --> 01:51:15,760
usually raise hand too or submit a speaker card.

1188
01:51:18,810 --> 01:51:22,290
As of now, I don't have any speaker cards submitted.

1189
01:51:24,010 --> 01:51:27,670
Are there any raise hand on the Zoom?

1190
01:51:28,250 --> 01:51:31,150
Thank you, Madam Chair, at this time. I have no hands raised in Zoom.

1191
01:51:34,170 --> 01:51:34,850
And

1192
01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:43,480
are there any board comment directions?

1193
01:51:44,980 --> 01:51:49,040
It's a very much related to the previous public hearing.

1194
01:51:49,940 --> 01:51:50,500
Yeah, sure.

1195
01:51:51,540 --> 01:51:52,800
Okay, Director Keegan.

1196
01:51:53,980 --> 01:51:54,740
Thank you.

1197
01:51:54,860 --> 01:51:58,370
You know, I just had one suggestion, which is,

1198
01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:05,240
I know for a long time we just circulated our CIP to cities

1199
01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:14,760
cities to see what there is any incompatibility with their general plans and things of that

1200
01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:15,160
nature.

1201
01:52:16,020 --> 01:52:19,800
But I think we've sort of limited ourselves and just asking for that feedback.

1202
01:52:20,060 --> 01:52:26,500
I mean, I think that what should be asking in a broader sense in terms of what they might

1203
01:52:26,500 --> 01:52:29,420
feel are the priorities as part of our CIP.

1204
01:52:29,420 --> 01:52:35,340
You know, I think we're coming to a time of constrained resources, and it's better for us to know

1205
01:52:36,260 --> 01:52:41,900
which projects are more broadly supported by the larger community, particularly the engineering community.

1206
01:52:42,360 --> 01:52:49,440
So that is just a suggestion that I will make. I don't know if that any of my colleagues feel that that's something important but I do.

1207
01:52:51,610 --> 01:53:09,690
Okay, I'm sure anyone who wants to be engaged in the CIP, we will come that for the land use agency that was required by California government co-hosts, that's why we do that's why we specifically call it out.

1208
01:53:09,970 --> 01:53:13,450
But then everybody else has the welcome to be engaged.

1209
01:53:13,450 --> 01:53:15,770
Okay, Dr. Astralmarra.

1210
01:53:15,950 --> 01:53:16,770
Yeah, thank you, man, chair.

1211
01:53:17,330 --> 01:53:18,730
Just wanted to point out that, you know,

1212
01:53:18,910 --> 01:53:21,450
unlike cities who are required to have to see us, peace.

1213
01:53:22,430 --> 01:53:25,770
We didn't have, we're not required to, and we didn't have one.

1214
01:53:26,410 --> 01:53:28,770
It's been a number of years now that we've had a CIP

1215
01:53:28,770 --> 01:53:30,630
that we share with everybody.

1216
01:53:31,370 --> 01:53:32,370
We get their feedback.

1217
01:53:33,390 --> 01:53:36,390
And then we talk about it, and we have a number of public hearings.

1218
01:53:37,030 --> 01:53:41,930
But I'm pretty satisfied that we will, as the chair said,

1219
01:53:41,930 --> 01:53:49,790
We will spend a little time publicly reviewing each of these projects in the public settings.

1220
01:53:50,310 --> 01:53:58,130
So we can share with people why it is that we're doing this 10 year pipeline rehab or any of these things, the pumping plant.

1221
01:53:59,030 --> 01:54:03,010
You know, there's nothing sexy about a pumping plant. There's nothing sexy about any of this stuff.

1222
01:54:03,570 --> 01:54:11,510
But when you look at it, what happens if we don't do it? If you don't do it, what happens? That's what we got to tell the public.

1223
01:54:11,510 --> 01:54:13,670
Okay, we don't do this pumping plan.

1224
01:54:13,990 --> 01:54:22,570
What's gonna happen if we don't have a 10 year pipeline rehab program where we invest,

1225
01:54:23,050 --> 01:54:29,710
making sure that we have that in stock, rather than to wait for a number of years when

1226
01:54:29,710 --> 01:54:34,170
something's going on in your neighborhood, you're inundated and we got to wait to find some

1227
01:54:34,170 --> 01:54:34,810
steal somewhere.

1228
01:54:35,110 --> 01:54:35,850
Good luck.

1229
01:54:36,610 --> 01:54:41,090
And it's at their sacrifice, not ours.

1230
01:54:41,950 --> 01:54:43,670
That's why we've got to review this with people.

1231
01:54:43,850 --> 01:54:46,250
So let's see what it is that we're trying to do.

1232
01:54:46,510 --> 01:54:48,410
What this CIP is doing.

1233
01:54:49,830 --> 01:54:54,430
So yeah, we will definitely work with CIO and this other staff

1234
01:54:54,430 --> 01:54:55,950
to schedule that.

1235
01:54:56,510 --> 01:54:59,770
And in the meantime, that this public hearing.

1236
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:12,620
We will continue into our public board meetings throughout April and the public hearing will be closed on Tuesday, May 14, 2024.

1237
01:55:13,180 --> 01:55:18,600
So there's lots of opportunities for people to be engaged in the CIP.

1238
01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:21,480
With that, there are two Eisenberg.

1239
01:55:22,500 --> 01:55:24,000
Thank you so much.

1240
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:33,500
So, with appropriate respect, I vet vehemently disagree with the comments just said by my colleague.

1241
01:55:34,080 --> 01:55:47,040
First of all, we are not doing the public any favor by disclosing to the public how we are spending our 10 billion with a billion.

1242
01:55:47,040 --> 01:55:53,620
Remember, Dr. Evil, you know, billion dollar capital improvement plan.

1243
01:55:55,420 --> 01:56:01,400
You know, other districts don't have a CIP. I believe that other districts do it better.

1244
01:56:02,020 --> 01:56:09,420
The CIP program is a failure. We know that already. The process is problematic.

1245
01:56:10,280 --> 01:56:16,280
The auditor, the outside auditor, said that. You know, it was urgently important for us to audit.

1246
01:56:16,280 --> 01:56:19,820
And this board voted not to audit.

1247
01:56:20,640 --> 01:56:25,000
So I think that we know that there are issues with the process.

1248
01:56:25,000 --> 01:56:31,940
We know there are issues with the CIP and we are not doing the public a favor by disclosing to them.

1249
01:56:33,640 --> 01:56:44,420
And they're actually our laws in place starting with the Brown Act and the District Act and a whole slew of state and federal laws that require us to share

1250
01:56:45,800 --> 01:56:53,460
thorough information, complete information about how we are spending the public's money and we

1251
01:56:53,460 --> 01:57:01,860
are not doing that at all. So we need to do better. Our ratepayers deserve it, public deserves

1252
01:57:01,860 --> 01:57:07,120
it, immediate deserves it, our colleagues deserve it, everyone deserves to know more about

1253
01:57:07,120 --> 01:57:12,500
how we're spending our money. I shouldn't have to ask the question about how interest payments

1254
01:57:12,500 --> 01:57:18,860
impact water rates literally for a year, you know, I shouldn't have to, you know, it is

1255
01:57:18,860 --> 01:57:25,740
a reasonable question to know once we start paying interest in 20 years then what will happen

1256
01:57:25,740 --> 01:57:33,380
to the water rates. This stuff is not brain surgery. These are pretty obvious questions. So

1257
01:57:33,380 --> 01:57:39,980
I would say public should not be grateful. The public should demand more and the public deserves

1258
01:57:39,980 --> 01:57:46,960
more. Second is, our job is not to explain to the public what we're doing and why we're doing

1259
01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:55,300
it. Our job is to include the public with our decision-making. And you may laugh, Director

1260
01:57:55,300 --> 01:58:01,920
Estimera, your laughter is disrespectful. You do not know more than everyone in our community.

1261
01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:06,800
You, Director, I said, okay, you just make your comment and that's not a point.

1262
01:58:06,940 --> 01:58:08,900
So, not point finger as individuals.

1263
01:58:09,040 --> 01:58:11,260
Okay, so an individual was laughing.

1264
01:58:12,040 --> 01:58:17,300
And for the record, it should be known that director Estimera was laughing at what I was saying.

1265
01:58:17,660 --> 01:58:22,180
That was disrespectful, that was rude, that was offensive, not just to me, but to the public.

1266
01:58:22,680 --> 01:58:22,700
Director.

1267
01:58:22,700 --> 01:58:25,960
I said, but guys, seriously, I hope that you consider what I just requested.

1268
01:58:26,620 --> 01:58:28,030
And I go on to say,

1269
01:58:29,870 --> 01:58:37,230
Our job is not to tell the public what we're doing and try to convince them that we're

1270
01:58:37,230 --> 01:58:38,430
right and they're wrong.

1271
01:58:39,150 --> 01:58:43,410
And since I was elected to this committee, as has been complained about me time and

1272
01:58:43,410 --> 01:58:51,130
time again, my insistence that we take the community more seriously and include their

1273
01:58:51,130 --> 01:59:01,970
factors and their opinions and their experiences and their facts in our decision-making is

1274
01:59:01,970 --> 01:59:07,410
an opinion and a belief I'm going to stick with. It is called democracy. Democracy is not

1275
01:59:07,410 --> 01:59:15,450
the elected officials bullying the public to believe that we're right. Democracy means this

1276
01:59:15,450 --> 01:59:26,990
government by the people for the people to ensure the benefit of the people and by making decisions

1277
01:59:26,990 --> 01:59:32,530
and then pushing them down onto the people and assisting we know more than they do is wrong,

1278
01:59:32,730 --> 01:59:43,410
it is ethically wrong, it is socially unjust and it is, in my opinion, goes against the spirit and the

1279
01:59:43,410 --> 01:59:50,910
of the laws that enable us, we need to include the public in our decision-making and everything

1280
01:59:50,910 --> 01:59:57,930
said by my colleagues who spoke on the day is here. It's established the fact that we do not

1281
01:59:57,930 --> 01:59:58,810
complete the public.

1282
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:15,560
I find it, I don't have words to express my disappointment to hear one of my colleagues dismiss the words of the agricultural committee leaders who know a lot more about their finances than we do.

1283
02:00:16,000 --> 02:00:21,240
To hear someone say they say they're suffering but I look around and I think they're thriving.

1284
02:00:21,240 --> 02:00:36,020
How dare we? How dare anyone say that? You know, the point of DEI is to embrace and listen to alternate experiences and perspectives.

1285
02:00:36,580 --> 02:00:45,140
And if we have a board member, utterly dismissing the experience of experts who are appointed to advise us, what are we doing here?

1286
02:00:45,140 --> 02:00:46,860
Why are we?

1287
02:00:47,340 --> 02:00:49,500
Can we focus on CIP?

1288
02:00:49,940 --> 02:00:50,160
Yes.

1289
02:00:50,560 --> 02:00:52,180
And so my point about...

1290
02:00:52,180 --> 02:00:52,420
Yes.

1291
02:00:52,520 --> 02:00:53,600
That's focused on CIP.

1292
02:00:53,780 --> 02:00:57,660
Is that we need to, including everyone here.

1293
02:00:58,120 --> 02:00:59,860
We need to listen to the public.

1294
02:01:00,580 --> 02:01:02,780
We need to learn from the public.

1295
02:01:02,940 --> 02:01:05,040
We need to take the public seriously.

1296
02:01:05,880 --> 02:01:12,580
And we need to change our plans after, after learning from them.

1297
02:01:13,060 --> 02:01:14,340
We don't know everything.

1298
02:01:15,080 --> 02:01:19,720
They know some things, you know some things that we don't know.

1299
02:01:20,160 --> 02:01:22,380
So I'd like to thank the public for your involvement.

1300
02:01:22,720 --> 02:01:24,240
Thank you all who reached out to me.

1301
02:01:24,580 --> 02:01:28,140
Thank you for sharing my, you know, sharing your experiences.

1302
02:01:28,560 --> 02:01:31,360
Even though some of my colleagues won't listen, I will.

1303
02:01:31,700 --> 02:01:33,920
And it's come to remember, we'll have more who listen to.

1304
02:01:34,280 --> 02:01:36,120
Because you deserve better.

1305
02:01:39,960 --> 02:01:40,900
Director, that's from there.

1306
02:01:41,120 --> 02:01:41,660
Thank you, Director.

1307
02:01:42,900 --> 02:01:44,660
You know, it's pretty offensive, man.

1308
02:01:44,660 --> 02:01:54,020
When we make a commitment to share with the public, then we get lectured to that we're not providing information to the public.

1309
02:01:54,920 --> 02:02:03,820
That's pretty offensive. When we're responsive, and then we get lectured that we're trying to tell the public what to do.

1310
02:02:05,810 --> 02:02:09,710
It really is pretty ridiculous to hear that kind of opinion.

1311
02:02:09,710 --> 02:02:10,470
I

1312
02:02:13,670 --> 02:02:21,110
felt we would be responsive by saying that we would share even more than what we already do and we share and offer a lot

1313
02:02:23,130 --> 02:02:29,490
and then to be lectured that, oh well, no. You're not being responsive, you're going to go tell the people what the story is.

1314
02:02:30,770 --> 02:02:40,930
We have a responsibility to tell the public exactly what it is that we're doing, what we plan to do and what we ask them, we should be doing.

1315
02:02:40,930 --> 02:02:46,610
We have public hearings. That's why we have public hearings. We haven't during the day we haven't in the evening.

1316
02:02:47,270 --> 02:02:54,390
This is the public hearing. That's what it was. We were listening to the public, whoever had something to say we heard them.

1317
02:02:55,210 --> 02:03:04,550
And even then still we said we would have more public hearings and I requested an opportunity to share with the public what it is that we're doing.

1318
02:03:05,860 --> 02:03:12,240
And then got lectured that well no you you you you you you're going to go you're going to go tell the public what to do

1319
02:03:12,240 --> 02:03:15,930
No, we're going to go tell the public what it is that we're planning and ask them

1320
02:03:16,700 --> 02:03:25,070
What they think about that that's what a public hearing is all about that's why we share what we do the reason we did the CIP was exactly for that same reason

1321
02:03:25,500 --> 02:03:28,880
To let people know what it is that we're doing

1322
02:03:28,880 --> 02:03:30,960
Now what's wrong with that?

1323
02:03:42,580 --> 02:03:45,500
I'm just going to get clarification here.

1324
02:03:46,400 --> 02:03:49,600
Item 3.4, the one we just did was the protection,

1325
02:03:50,080 --> 02:03:51,960
augmentation, water supplies.

1326
02:03:53,020 --> 02:03:56,080
So that was the water supply stuff.

1327
02:03:57,260 --> 02:04:01,380
And it looked like from a reading report like 10 years.

1328
02:04:01,660 --> 02:04:03,540
Here's what we're going to do.

1329
02:04:03,860 --> 02:04:05,200
Water supplies stuff.

1330
02:04:05,600 --> 02:04:09,560
This item is the five years CIP.

1331
02:04:10,360 --> 02:04:20,920
So this item is, this is 3.5, this is the capital and true in budget for both water supply, and a flight control and so forth.

1332
02:04:21,240 --> 02:04:22,500
The complete capital budget.

1333
02:04:22,620 --> 02:04:23,140
That's correct.

1334
02:04:23,160 --> 02:04:24,280
It has both.

1335
02:04:24,300 --> 02:04:24,820
Both.

1336
02:04:25,540 --> 02:04:27,060
Water utility and water flickering.

1337
02:04:27,560 --> 02:04:30,960
But this is only the five year.

1338
02:04:31,520 --> 02:04:33,820
Five year CIP, right?

1339
02:04:35,080 --> 02:04:38,730
It does have some stuff in there about future projects.

1340
02:04:38,730 --> 02:04:42,830
projects on the kind of the weight list or whatever.

1341
02:04:43,770 --> 02:04:51,990
Then the next item, 3.6, is that's the change of the projects.

1342
02:04:51,990 --> 02:04:59,970
It's not the projects, but the change of the projects on the Safe Queen Water.

1343
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:16,660
Our national flag protection program, the one that was approved by the boat, by the boaters. Correct? So, I want to make it clear that we're only talking about those areas that are on the agenda.

1344
02:05:17,060 --> 02:05:19,720
That's correct. That's correct. All this other stuff.

1345
02:05:19,720 --> 02:05:22,380
Yeah. And I

1346
02:05:24,650 --> 02:05:28,690
want to make it clear that my remarks on the first item only applied to the

1347
02:05:28,690 --> 02:05:36,310
utilities not to flag control. Okay, the only applied to that pause report. I wasn't commenting

1348
02:05:36,310 --> 02:05:44,710
on the flag controls. I don't have any comments on 3.5 because 3.5 is a public hearing to

1349
02:05:44,710 --> 02:05:51,530
hear the public or not adopting that now. We're simply continuing to hearing the chair indicated

1350
02:05:51,530 --> 02:05:57,930
that we're going to have a hearing, maybe have a report at the special meeting we're going

1351
02:05:57,930 --> 02:05:58,370
to have.

1352
02:05:58,570 --> 02:06:00,050
Okay, can I interrupt?

1353
02:06:00,690 --> 02:06:07,470
So what I just said is that the public hearing for the CIP will continue and then the closing

1354
02:06:07,470 --> 02:06:13,750
date of the public hearing is on May 14th which during this period of time there will be

1355
02:06:13,750 --> 02:06:17,330
regular board meetings and then it will be on the agenda every minute.

1356
02:06:17,330 --> 02:06:21,350
So Pover has multiple opportunities

1357
02:06:21,350 --> 02:06:25,650
to submit comments to us that way.

1358
02:06:26,010 --> 02:06:32,090
And I also suggested that we can have a dedicated portion

1359
02:06:32,090 --> 02:06:36,770
of our strategic planning session, which is scheduled for April 29th.

1360
02:06:36,790 --> 02:06:41,150
That's a special board meeting to focus on the next level

1361
02:06:41,150 --> 02:06:45,830
of detail of what's in the five-year CIP.

1362
02:06:45,830 --> 02:06:52,330
So, but then that's something that I need to work together with staff to plan it out.

1363
02:06:52,690 --> 02:06:57,930
So there's plenty of opportunities for now until we adopt the budget, which is May.

1364
02:07:00,350 --> 02:07:09,550
The board can comment, people can come to us, give us their thinking, and then so our job is to make it as transparent as open.

1365
02:07:09,550 --> 02:07:12,210
and then pull by the opportunity as we can.

1366
02:07:12,530 --> 02:07:13,690
Yeah, okay, that's the whole point.

1367
02:07:14,070 --> 02:07:15,910
That explains what explains to you.

1368
02:07:15,930 --> 02:07:17,330
So I'm gonna make it clear.

1369
02:07:17,790 --> 02:07:22,470
Okay, the positive part is not gonna be,

1370
02:07:22,590 --> 02:07:25,230
it's gonna be distressed in the schedule

1371
02:07:25,230 --> 02:07:26,650
indicated on the agenda.

1372
02:07:27,590 --> 02:07:32,670
Okay, and then we're gonna have a part of our strategic planning

1373
02:07:32,670 --> 02:07:36,490
to talk about the five-year capital.

1374
02:07:36,510 --> 02:07:38,930
Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

1375
02:07:38,930 --> 02:07:48,230
Yeah, I can't change it and I get into just in the five years CIP it's updated every year and then it's more of a

1376
02:07:48,230 --> 02:07:55,490
Flooking into the next five years, but they are projects in the five years CIP if we know the estimated

1377
02:07:55,490 --> 02:08:03,990
Estimated all projected costs beyond the five year period. It is also included in the five years CIP. Yeah, so that's

1378
02:08:05,370 --> 02:08:08,810
That's that's a that's a clarification. Okay, so the

1379
02:08:08,930 --> 02:08:14,850
Just my comments on the five-year CIP, those are projects that I hope we're going to build

1380
02:08:14,850 --> 02:08:19,590
as quickly as possible because they're pretty much projects that have been kind of thought

1381
02:08:19,590 --> 02:08:20,130
out.

1382
02:08:20,370 --> 02:08:21,110
They're ready to go.

1383
02:08:21,330 --> 02:08:22,870
They're kind of like projects we're doing.

1384
02:08:23,970 --> 02:08:28,130
So, because it's five years, only five years, that's pretty, that's kind of a short timeline

1385
02:08:28,130 --> 02:08:28,790
for construction.

1386
02:08:29,690 --> 02:08:34,170
So, my basic comment on those is let's get them done as quickly as possible.

1387
02:08:34,970 --> 02:08:38,310
I mean, you know, let's do the best we can, you know, this is horrible.

1388
02:08:39,190 --> 02:08:48,390
labor market, a horrible supply market, there might be some ways we can save money if we

1389
02:08:48,390 --> 02:08:56,310
can, but those are projects that we've already decided will be projects we want for the most part, right?

1390
02:08:57,150 --> 02:09:02,400
They're for the most part, but they are project that will future investment, that's still

1391
02:09:02,400 --> 02:09:08,720
still rely on the 2050 water supply master plan to give it more clarity on which project

1392
02:09:08,720 --> 02:09:10,040
to invest on.

1393
02:09:10,380 --> 02:09:16,520
So there's still those uncertainties but then for transparency reasons that we've included

1394
02:09:16,520 --> 02:09:24,000
everything, every document that we're preparing even though the 2050 master plan study may

1395
02:09:24,000 --> 02:09:29,120
tell us to delete a specific project because it's not that we're going to invest in or whatever.

1396
02:09:29,120 --> 02:09:37,780
So everything is a process, but then they all come together on the road, which is need to go through it to step a step.

1397
02:09:38,840 --> 02:09:47,920
Okay, so I'm asking these questions because I think when we discuss some of these items we've got 100 crossover from one item to another.

1398
02:09:47,920 --> 02:09:49,100
I'm glad you asked me.

1399
02:09:49,100 --> 02:09:53,920
You know, so we get it clear and thank you, Madam Chair for providing that clarity.

1400
02:09:53,920 --> 02:09:59,960
And the next item will be just to talk about.

1401
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:05,260
That renewed safe clean water and natural public control program. So that's item 3.6.

1402
02:10:06,060 --> 02:10:14,000
So we're moving along with agenda. I'm just kind of, the only comment I had on the Capitol budget was a.

1403
02:10:15,000 --> 02:10:27,080
Get it done and be, you know, try to fix, like I think some of the other board members were saying, we don't want the facilities and, you know,

1404
02:10:27,080 --> 02:10:34,020
of flood control projects and the utility projects to have maintenance repair problems.

1405
02:10:34,260 --> 02:10:41,480
We should try to are best to not let that happen and for the future generations we should

1406
02:10:41,480 --> 02:10:43,940
fix those as a priority.

1407
02:10:44,360 --> 02:10:45,100
So that's the only comment.

1408
02:10:45,360 --> 02:10:46,780
I'm a fix it first kind of guy.

1409
02:10:47,480 --> 02:10:53,720
I mean, I think we're doing the big project we did this year is perfect in that description.

1410
02:10:53,720 --> 02:11:01,080
And that's the Labyrinth Annada plant, which I think is we don't get enough credit for making

1411
02:11:01,080 --> 02:11:05,680
decision to go ahead and move that despite the big cost item.

1412
02:11:06,720 --> 02:11:09,420
But that's going to be an investment for the next 50 years.

1413
02:11:09,420 --> 02:11:18,580
It's kind of a good clean, well-treated water for the community,

1414
02:11:20,620 --> 02:11:23,040
and to me, I think that

1415
02:11:23,040 --> 02:11:27,600
was, that's going to be a spectacular project when you finish it, I mean, I'm just

1416
02:11:27,600 --> 02:11:32,560
a proud of the staff and the board and all the people that are working on that project

1417
02:11:32,560 --> 02:11:36,800
down to the guys planning the trees around the project.

1418
02:11:37,440 --> 02:11:47,600
So I think that's a great project and I consider that the ALIS to maintenance repair projects

1419
02:11:47,600 --> 02:11:52,860
that we need to do, and let's give them some credit for that.

1420
02:11:53,980 --> 02:11:54,600
Thank you.

1421
02:11:56,000 --> 02:11:56,660
Thank you.

1422
02:11:57,220 --> 02:12:02,620
So, as I said, more than one time already that this public hearing will continue.

1423
02:12:03,400 --> 02:12:07,620
And then now we're going back to our regular agenda.

1424
02:12:08,360 --> 02:12:10,720
We're now on item 3.6.

1425
02:12:11,520 --> 02:12:17,280
This is conduct a public hearing on proposed changes to project under priorities.

1426
02:12:17,280 --> 02:12:24,640
A-E-N-F, for the renewed safe clean water and natural flow protection program.

1427
02:12:25,620 --> 02:12:32,620
Before I read my statement, I want to remind everybody that these proposed changes to the

1428
02:12:32,620 --> 02:12:40,820
Queensland Creek program, KPI, were about to the full board at our last board meeting and

1429
02:12:40,820 --> 02:12:46,260
board, it's left explained the rationale for these changes and the board

1430
02:12:46,260 --> 02:12:53,460
directed staff that yes that have a public hearing to hear public comments related

1431
02:12:53,460 --> 02:13:03,840
to these proposed changes. So, with that, this public hearing is now open on July 21,

1432
02:13:03,840 --> 02:13:13,140
2020, the board adopted Resolution Number 264, which specified the limits and conditions

1433
02:13:13,140 --> 02:13:20,620
by which value water is authorized to institute a special parcel tax for the renewed

1434
02:13:20,620 --> 02:13:26,820
safely water and natural flow protection program. As all-lined in the resolution, the board

1435
02:13:26,820 --> 02:13:33,600
of directors may direct that the proposed projects in the safely water program be modified

1436
02:13:33,600 --> 02:13:40,980
or not implemented due to several factors, including federal and state funding limitations.

1437
02:13:41,840 --> 02:13:47,840
To modify or not implement a proposed project, the board must hold a public hearing,

1438
02:13:48,000 --> 02:13:52,620
and that's what we're doing today at this moment on the matter,

1439
02:13:53,020 --> 02:14:01,240
which will be noticed by publication and notified two interested parties before the adoption

1440
02:14:01,240 --> 02:14:06,340
of any such decision to modify or not implement a project.

1441
02:14:07,140 --> 02:14:14,000
At its meeting on March 26, 2024, the board said the time and place for a formal

1442
02:14:14,000 --> 02:14:20,180
public hearing are April 20, 2024, which is today, and then that's what I referred to

1443
02:14:20,180 --> 02:14:26,280
at the last four meeting, March 26, 2024, staff explained in detail to the board about

1444
02:14:26,280 --> 02:14:27,560
these proposed changes.

1445
02:14:28,220 --> 02:14:33,500
Staff prepared and published an advertisement in Santa Clara County

1446
02:14:34,440 --> 02:14:40,580
consistent with the two-week notice requirements in government code section

1447
02:14:40,580 --> 02:14:42,380
six and zero six-six.

1448
02:14:42,920 --> 02:14:47,800
Staff also conducted outreach to project and program stakeholders.

1449
02:14:50,420 --> 02:14:55,360
We will begin with a staff presentation on the proposed changes and then here

1450
02:14:55,360 --> 02:14:56,260
public comments.

1451
02:14:56,260 --> 02:14:59,960
Again, anyone wish to provide comments to the...

1452
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:06,960
The Board, you can do it either by filling out the speaker card if you are already in here.

1453
02:15:07,620 --> 02:15:14,740
Or you can use the raise hand to in the Zoom meeting to provide your feedback.

1454
02:15:15,780 --> 02:15:24,820
I would now like to introduce Jessica Collins, business planning and analysis unit manager responsible for the implementation

1455
02:15:24,820 --> 02:15:30,640
of the Safe Clean Water Program to begin the staff presentation and provide additional details

1456
02:15:30,640 --> 02:15:32,100
on the subject matter.

1457
02:15:32,880 --> 02:15:36,520
Good afternoon, Shushway and Members of the Board, I'm pleased to be here this afternoon.

1458
02:15:37,500 --> 02:15:41,880
I may please the Board, I'm here for you today, to present the proposed recommended changes

1459
02:15:41,880 --> 02:15:46,540
to three projects under Priority A, Priorities A, E and F of the Renewed Safety

1460
02:15:46,540 --> 02:15:48,500
Motor Natural Club Protection Program.

1461
02:15:52,060 --> 02:15:55,940
Today's board actions include conducting the public hearing on the proposed changes to the

1462
02:15:55,940 --> 02:16:01,280
program. And if approved, adopting resolutions for each of the projects, if the project

1463
02:16:01,280 --> 02:16:05,000
deaf nine resolution is adopted, we're also requesting that the Board approve a text

1464
02:16:05,000 --> 02:16:08,960
adjustment to the description of the project to align with the proposed modification.

1465
02:16:12,190 --> 02:16:16,170
Today's public hearing is being held in accordance with the program's change control process,

1466
02:16:17,070 --> 02:16:21,850
which is established the process to modify, not implement or adjust projects, which was adopted

1467
02:16:21,850 --> 02:16:27,490
by the Board via resolution number 264. On March 26, the Board set the time in place for the

1468
02:16:27,490 --> 02:16:31,270
Today's public hearing and public hearing notices were published in compliance with government

1469
02:16:31,270 --> 02:16:36,570
code section 66, additionally Valley Water Conduct Outreach directly to project

1470
02:16:36,570 --> 02:16:37,390
and program stakeholders.

1471
02:16:39,750 --> 02:16:44,810
The catalysts for today's proposed changes include rising infrastructure costs, which resulted

1472
02:16:44,810 --> 02:16:49,090
in funding shortfall for the nearly shovel ready Sunnyvale East West Philippe Protection

1473
02:16:49,090 --> 02:16:49,690
Project.

1474
02:16:50,310 --> 02:16:54,510
The board directed increased level of service for the incoming cleanup project, and I am

1475
02:16:54,510 --> 02:16:59,330
Recommendation to modify KPI 2 of the Upper Guadalupe River Flow Protection Project to include

1476
02:16:59,330 --> 02:17:05,050
benefits to all native fish species. Expansion of Project F9 grants of partnerships, KPA

1477
02:17:05,050 --> 02:17:09,650
number 4 to include all community members seeking assistance for watershed activities as opposed

1478
02:17:09,650 --> 02:17:12,810
to restricting it to small municipalities and special districts.

1479
02:17:14,830 --> 02:17:20,410
I'll now provide an overview of the proposed changes. The first proposed change is to not implement

1480
02:17:20,410 --> 02:17:25,310
Project A1, the Pecheco Reservoir Expansion Project, under the program, thereby not implementing

1481
02:17:25,310 --> 02:17:30,670
the fund transfer of up to 10 million, which would provide 0.36% of the project's total

1482
02:17:30,670 --> 02:17:35,750
project cost. The Pecheco Project would remain in the Capital Improvement Program, and the absence

1483
02:17:35,750 --> 02:17:40,530
of a 10 million allocation would not have significant impact on the project's progress and can be

1484
02:17:40,530 --> 02:17:50,390
absorbed under the current water rate projection. The 10 million can then be released into the

1485
02:17:50,390 --> 02:17:57,450
combined with additional debt proceeds with more flexible terms can help to complete the construction

1486
02:17:57,450 --> 02:18:02,510
of the Sunnyvale project that the voters approved in 2000 and bolster project F5 to help

1487
02:18:02,510 --> 02:18:06,830
sustain the enhanced level of service directed by the board this past August in order to meet the

1488
02:18:06,830 --> 02:18:09,530
growing needs of the community, including the in sheltered community.

1489
02:18:12,560 --> 02:18:13,720
The second proposed change is

1490
02:18:13,720 --> 02:18:18,980
to modify project E8, the upper Guadalupe River flood protection project. This request for

1491
02:18:18,980 --> 02:18:23,760
modification was made by the IMC, the independent monitoring committee for the program, to include

1492
02:18:23,760 --> 02:18:29,000
reference to all native-fist species in KPI number 2, and on March 12, the board accepted

1493
02:18:29,000 --> 02:18:32,580
the staff response agreeing to propose the modification via a public hearing.

1494
02:18:33,920 --> 02:18:38,060
The third proposed change is to modify project F9 grants and partnerships for safety motor

1495
02:18:38,060 --> 02:18:43,100
flood protection and environmental stewardship. The proposed modification is the KPI number 4,

1496
02:18:43,440 --> 02:18:47,040
which currently provides up to 3 million for partnerships with small municipalities,

1497
02:18:47,040 --> 02:18:50,360
which today has received no successful applications.

1498
02:18:50,900 --> 02:18:53,960
Meanwhile, community members have expressed interest in receiving

1499
02:18:53,960 --> 02:18:56,900
value water assistance to implement water-shed activities that provide

1500
02:18:56,900 --> 02:19:01,180
community benefits, such as bank repair, sediment removal, and down-tree management.

1501
02:19:01,880 --> 02:19:06,120
Therefore, staff recommends the KPI number 4 be modified to broaden and expand access

1502
02:19:06,120 --> 02:19:10,800
beyond small municipalities and special districts and include individuals with a

1503
02:19:10,800 --> 02:19:13,220
rebate program covering water-shed stewardship activities.

1504
02:19:15,400 --> 02:19:15,880
My apologies.

1505
02:19:15,880 --> 02:19:24,400
If the F9 project resolution is adopted, we're also requesting that the Board approve a text adjustment to the description to align with the proposed modification.

1506
02:19:25,960 --> 02:19:36,580
Having received the overview of the proposed changes, I'll now ask the Board to consider adopting the resolutions for projects A1, E8, and F9, and approve the corresponding text adjustment to project F9.

1507
02:19:36,820 --> 02:19:41,720
And I'll now stand up in any questions after which tertiary will receive the public's comments on the proposed changes.

1508
02:19:45,020 --> 02:19:47,940
Thank you, Ms. Collins.

1509
02:19:49,040 --> 02:19:54,460
Okay, so we will now take the public comment.

1510
02:19:55,740 --> 02:19:59,980
Related to what Ms. Collins just presented about.

1511
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:12,540
These proposes changes to the KPI's under the Safeway Water Program. I don't have any speaker request.

1512
02:20:13,400 --> 02:20:26,320
And I see Jeff. Okay. Yeah. Mr. Here. Yeah. Who is the chair of our IMC? Has the hand raised? Can we allow him to speak?

1513
02:20:28,720 --> 02:20:37,100
Yes, good afternoon. I'll make this great. Thank you very much. As to obviously Project

1514
02:20:37,100 --> 02:20:47,180
DA, I actually did review this and I'm going to look at Project A1. The proposal here

1515
02:20:47,180 --> 02:20:55,500
to not implement. I'm curious how this will be reflected in the annual report. This will

1516
02:20:55,500 --> 02:21:00,820
be permanently taken off of the IMC's annual report?

1517
02:21:03,120 --> 02:21:07,900
Yes, the proposal is to remove the project from the Safe Clean Water Program, not remove

1518
02:21:07,900 --> 02:21:11,820
the project from the Capital Improvement Program rather, but not implement the project under

1519
02:21:11,820 --> 02:21:15,760
the Safe Clean Water Program, which was basically the fun transfer of up to 10 million.

1520
02:21:17,360 --> 02:21:24,140
Okay, and I know that our the IMC recommendation was simply a request here to reflect all

1521
02:21:24,140 --> 02:21:30,620
the other sources of funding for that project, as so long as it was part of the measure

1522
02:21:30,620 --> 02:21:32,340
S project.

1523
02:21:32,680 --> 02:21:37,780
So if it's being removed, I might correct to assume that there will be no other reporting

1524
02:21:37,780 --> 02:21:39,380
regarding this project.

1525
02:21:40,200 --> 02:21:41,460
I can respond to that.

1526
02:21:41,820 --> 02:21:48,180
So as this action is being taken in this current fiscal year, fiscal year 24, fiscal year 24,

1527
02:21:48,400 --> 02:21:53,120
fiscal year 24 annual report will address the IMC's recommendation that was approved

1528
02:21:53,120 --> 02:21:57,060
by the Board to provide all information regarding the funding sources for the project.

1529
02:21:57,560 --> 02:22:01,920
We'll still provide all of that information in this coming annual report as well as a summary

1530
02:22:01,920 --> 02:22:07,840
of the any board action taken today regarding the public hearing and then moving forward

1531
02:22:07,840 --> 02:22:12,180
any board action taken today would be reflected in the following annual reports.

1532
02:22:12,180 --> 02:22:23,630
Okay, thank you very much. Appreciate that. Okay. We have, uh, next one is, uh, Loma

1533
02:22:23,630 --> 02:22:26,950
Pareta, Resource Conservation District.

1534
02:22:31,470 --> 02:22:33,590
I'm also the Chair of that Water Advisory

1535
02:22:33,590 --> 02:22:40,650
Committee. And, uh, I like the concept of, uh, the fish mitigation, and some of these

1536
02:22:40,650 --> 02:22:44,650
of the watershed because I think that's very, very important.

1537
02:22:45,990 --> 02:22:48,370
I'm just curious about the funding of this.

1538
02:22:48,390 --> 02:22:50,510
I know there's already a flood control parcel tax.

1539
02:22:50,650 --> 02:22:52,750
Is there going to be a new tax added to this?

1540
02:22:53,030 --> 02:22:56,510
Or is it going to be, are we going to do all three grants?

1541
02:23:00,010 --> 02:23:01,270
Jessica, can you answer that?

1542
02:23:01,270 --> 02:23:02,430
You want me to answer it?

1543
02:23:02,730 --> 02:23:06,190
The funding for the E8 project.

1544
02:23:06,790 --> 02:23:10,830
The funding for the E8 project is, was that the question,

1545
02:23:10,830 --> 02:23:12,690
or for implementation.

1546
02:23:13,610 --> 02:23:15,110
Yes, for this black and roll product.

1547
02:23:15,350 --> 02:23:17,410
I think for all three proposed changes.

1548
02:23:18,370 --> 02:23:19,670
So yes, so the funding,

1549
02:23:21,170 --> 02:23:23,530
essentially for the projects under the

1550
02:23:23,530 --> 02:23:25,970
sickly-mutter natural flood protection program,

1551
02:23:26,070 --> 02:23:27,850
are funded through our special parcel tax,

1552
02:23:27,910 --> 02:23:31,210
which was a voter approved special parcel tax in 2020.

1553
02:23:32,470 --> 02:23:35,590
And those dollars are reflected any

1554
02:23:35,590 --> 02:23:39,410
shared funding sources are reported out in the Indian report.

1555
02:23:39,410 --> 02:23:45,190
And we report on that every year and provide information to the public.

1556
02:23:45,710 --> 02:23:54,490
So I think one of the, I think part of the questions are they going to be additional tests.

1557
02:23:55,430 --> 02:23:59,570
No, they won't be, they won't, yeah, they will not be additional tests.

1558
02:23:59,750 --> 02:24:04,150
So this is more of a change existing program element,

1559
02:24:04,150 --> 02:24:12,910
so that we can more efficiently use the voter approved safe clean water program.

1560
02:24:13,010 --> 02:24:16,990
Okay, great. That's a real location of funds that are in place. Yes, yes, yes.

1561
02:24:17,650 --> 02:24:19,710
Oh, thank you very much for following that.

1562
02:24:20,150 --> 02:24:28,530
Okay, thank you for asking the question, okay, any anything else? I don't have anything.

1563
02:24:31,310 --> 02:24:37,370
Okay, then, what we're still in the public hearing.

1564
02:24:38,830 --> 02:24:44,940
Okay, and we're in line.

1565
02:24:46,220 --> 02:24:49,700
Okay, we're just to receive the public comment period.

1566
02:24:49,700 --> 02:24:59,970
And then now we heard a-

1567
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:14,820
Staff presentation and then we answered public questions and this, it is time now to close the public hearing for consideration of board discussion and motion.

1568
02:25:14,820 --> 02:25:22,360
So, different, different than the previous two public hearing that will continue into the

1569
02:25:22,360 --> 02:25:30,900
into NAVPRO or mid-May. This public hearing, this is the one meeting public hearing and then

1570
02:25:30,900 --> 02:25:36,990
we're at the point that we're ready to close the public hearing and this is the time for

1571
02:25:36,990 --> 02:25:41,690
board to ask questions and then I'll give the question to that.

1572
02:25:42,830 --> 02:25:47,750
Okay. Second. Would you have a question from Director Keegan?

1573
02:25:50,250 --> 02:25:51,270
Thank you.

1574
02:25:51,830 --> 02:25:54,990
Ms. Collins, perhaps you can answer this question for me.

1575
02:25:55,330 --> 02:26:02,770
It's related to E9 and that was a request from the IMC.

1576
02:26:02,770 --> 02:26:07,250
And so it talks about providing up to $3 million for 15-year period

1577
02:26:07,250 --> 02:26:10,350
for a Greek-side neighbor rebate program for watershed activities,

1578
02:26:10,650 --> 02:26:13,890
including bank repair, sediment removal, and down tree management.

1579
02:26:14,730 --> 02:26:17,330
So that's roughly $200,000 a year.

1580
02:26:19,690 --> 02:26:24,070
I mean, I'm supportive of this idea of opening it up more.

1581
02:26:24,370 --> 02:26:28,250
And specifically, we do hear concerns about bank repair,

1582
02:26:28,250 --> 02:26:32,830
sediment removal in trees that are impeding flow

1583
02:26:32,830 --> 02:26:33,830
in the creeks.

1584
02:26:35,350 --> 02:26:37,410
My question, well, a couple of questions.

1585
02:26:37,670 --> 02:26:41,930
One is, are we going to be providing any assistance

1586
02:26:42,810 --> 02:26:47,670
in terms of getting permits or things like that

1587
02:26:47,670 --> 02:26:52,030
or at least advising people who get these grants us

1588
02:26:52,030 --> 02:26:54,330
to what their responsibilities are to do work

1589
02:26:54,330 --> 02:26:55,030
within the channel?

1590
02:26:55,150 --> 02:26:58,050
I mean, sediment removal is kind of a big deal,

1591
02:26:58,050 --> 02:27:03,670
right. So this is the first step in the process is getting authorization to establish this type

1592
02:27:03,670 --> 02:27:09,130
of rebate program. The details of how to implement that rebate program I believe will be brought

1593
02:27:09,130 --> 02:27:15,370
back to the board for further discussion. Okay and so other questions that I have and you may not

1594
02:27:15,370 --> 02:27:22,150
be able to answer them right now but I would be curious about is like for example this could be an

1595
02:27:22,150 --> 02:27:27,770
individual perhaps an individual who's who's bank is failing behind their property and they're

1596
02:27:27,770 --> 02:27:33,210
asking for some assistance and so we it sounds like that would be something that would be

1597
02:27:33,210 --> 02:27:37,610
eligible and we might come up with some criteria right like cost sharing and things of that

1598
02:27:37,610 --> 02:27:43,190
nature so so these are things I'm getting into the details that are going to

1599
02:27:43,190 --> 02:27:48,810
staff is going to work with the IMC and with the community to develop those further and then

1600
02:27:48,810 --> 02:27:52,130
bring those back to the board am I hearing correctly yes okay thank you

1601
02:27:52,130 --> 02:27:53,210
Thank you so much.

1602
02:27:54,830 --> 02:27:56,110
Director Arsonberg.

1603
02:28:04,820 --> 02:28:08,240
So, kind of get a little closer to the mic.

1604
02:28:10,300 --> 02:28:16,380
With regard to the Pacheco, not spending choosing not to implement this expense.

1605
02:28:17,780 --> 02:28:26,260
First, I just want to point out that, you know, I'm going to reiterate my objection to the use of the number 140,000.

1606
02:28:26,260 --> 02:28:39,440
And where you state that it will up to 140,000 acre feed of storage, since we know that we will not be able to do this project,

1607
02:28:39,780 --> 02:28:50,500
if without 35% participation, we know that we will not be able to do this project without 35% of the storage going to those participants,

1608
02:28:50,500 --> 02:28:57,840
which means that actually the maximum is 91,000 acre feet.

1609
02:29:02,590 --> 02:29:04,190
Well, that's...

1610
02:29:04,190 --> 02:29:06,570
This is a binomial post.

1611
02:29:08,210 --> 02:29:11,370
But this is actually a factual misrepresentation

1612
02:29:11,370 --> 02:29:15,790
that I keep pointing out, even in a slide that says,

1613
02:29:15,870 --> 02:29:19,530
we're not implementing this, there's still a misrepresentation

1614
02:29:20,070 --> 02:29:21,350
of what this project would do.

1615
02:29:21,350 --> 02:29:37,810
So I, that bothers me, but please explain to me, you're thinking behind not implementing this and it tell me how much money from this pool of money will still be spent on Pacheco.

1616
02:29:37,930 --> 02:29:47,150
We know that you are not going, if I understand correctly, this means you won't be spending what 10 million on it.

1617
02:29:47,150 --> 02:29:53,090
So, how much will you still be spending on it and what was your thinking behind this?

1618
02:29:53,530 --> 02:29:59,970
Certainly. So, the $10,000 fund transfer to date. No funds have been transferred. Those were...

1619
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:07,440
Transfers that were scheduled for future fiscal years. So, today, no safe clean water funds have been spent on the Czech arrest of our expansion project.

1620
02:30:08,960 --> 02:30:24,040
Under the safe clean water program fund 26, as a funding source. And so, there are no other funds allocated to this project. Under the safe clean water program, the only allocation was that $10 million transfer spread over multiple years.

1621
02:30:24,040 --> 02:30:29,080
And so, through the board's action today, should you adopt the resolution to not implement

1622
02:30:29,080 --> 02:30:31,820
this project, no fund transfer would take place.

1623
02:30:32,260 --> 02:30:37,060
Therefore, no safely water funds would be expanded on the Czech Republic's expansion project.

1624
02:30:37,900 --> 02:30:46,000
The rationale for why we're proposing this is because this project, the $10 million fund transfer

1625
02:30:46,000 --> 02:30:53,460
makes up about 0.36 of 1% of the total project cost, estimated total project cost, and in

1626
02:30:53,460 --> 02:30:58,080
essence, the project will still be able to move forward without this one transfer, however

1627
02:30:58,080 --> 02:31:04,660
these funds could be reallocated into the Safe Clean Water Program to help implement other

1628
02:31:04,660 --> 02:31:09,700
projects and actually get those projects delivered. And so the two projects that were given

1629
02:31:09,700 --> 02:31:14,320
is examples were the Sunnyvale East West Floor Protection Project, which has currently a funding

1630
02:31:14,320 --> 02:31:17,020
for fall for the Sunnyvale East Channel portion,

1631
02:31:17,600 --> 02:31:19,340
and this would help close that funding gap,

1632
02:31:19,600 --> 02:31:25,740
along with financing and be able to allow us to move forward

1633
02:31:25,740 --> 02:31:27,860
with construction, hopefully next fiscal years,

1634
02:31:28,100 --> 02:31:29,440
this project is nearly shovel ready.

1635
02:31:30,380 --> 02:31:34,360
The other item that could be supported through this action

1636
02:31:34,360 --> 02:31:37,320
is the enhanced level of service for the Enchaimment Cleanup Project.

1637
02:31:38,260 --> 02:31:39,580
Thank you for that.

1638
02:31:39,580 --> 02:31:48,120
So then, so on that when I look at the State Water Commission's website and the Prop 1 page for

1639
02:31:48,120 --> 02:31:54,300
Pateco, it says that $24.1 million was approved for early funding.

1640
02:31:56,200 --> 02:32:00,560
That is not related to the sickly water and natural flood protection program.

1641
02:32:01,080 --> 02:32:06,140
Okay, so basically that means we're not getting taking money from the flood prevention program.

1642
02:32:07,180 --> 02:32:14,280
We're not, no funds beyond this ten million dollar future funding for Pacheco for Pacheco

1643
02:32:14,280 --> 02:32:14,840
and allocated.

1644
02:32:15,640 --> 02:32:17,000
So from fun 26.

1645
02:32:17,740 --> 02:32:18,340
Okay, great.

1646
02:32:18,720 --> 02:32:22,580
So in a future meeting when it's not off topic, I would love to have.

1647
02:32:22,800 --> 02:32:25,320
And since I'm not allowed to meet with staff anymore,

1648
02:32:25,640 --> 02:32:28,160
I have to ask these questions at board meetings,

1649
02:32:28,600 --> 02:32:33,140
but I would love to have a breakdown of all the different funds

1650
02:32:34,220 --> 02:32:40,780
And what projects that those funds have been allocated to because we know we've been spending money on

1651
02:32:40,780 --> 02:32:41,360
Pacheco.

1652
02:32:41,680 --> 02:32:45,540
And again, I don't want to be off topic for this meeting, but in the future I'd like to understand

1653
02:32:46,080 --> 02:32:52,080
what funds have been spent on Pacheco because there's a number of different funds, right?

1654
02:32:52,460 --> 02:32:54,680
And here we're talking about just fund 26.

1655
02:32:55,580 --> 02:33:00,820
So, again, staying on topic, you know, and again, I have all these off topic questions because

1656
02:33:00,820 --> 02:33:04,500
because my inability to meet with staff or staff to.

1657
02:33:04,500 --> 02:33:06,200
And I can answer that.

1658
02:33:06,460 --> 02:33:11,440
The water utility enterprise fund 61 is Valley Waters funding source

1659
02:33:11,440 --> 02:33:13,240
for the particular reservoir expansion project

1660
02:33:13,240 --> 02:33:17,200
and that funding source essentially are water rates.

1661
02:33:17,640 --> 02:33:22,160
But we are here today about 20, 6, which is a larger approval.

1662
02:33:22,520 --> 02:33:25,080
Right, so in the fund water, I would love that information.

1663
02:33:25,320 --> 02:33:28,100
Because I think the public may be confused like I am

1664
02:33:28,100 --> 02:33:31,240
that this actually would be taking away some funding from Pateco,

1665
02:33:31,380 --> 02:33:35,740
but really what it's doing is not taking flood protection.

1666
02:33:36,100 --> 02:33:38,320
Money, not paying for Pateco with flood protection,

1667
02:33:38,480 --> 02:33:43,200
which I think is in line with the purpose of that fund.

1668
02:33:43,200 --> 02:33:47,280
The Pateco does not have flood protection as one of it.

1669
02:33:47,820 --> 02:33:51,380
To clarify, the sixth and what are natural flood protection program

1670
02:33:51,380 --> 02:33:54,320
is a voter approved special parcel text

1671
02:33:54,320 --> 02:33:56,420
that not only funds flood protection,

1672
02:33:56,420 --> 02:33:59,800
but it also funds water supply projects as well.

1673
02:34:00,500 --> 02:34:02,220
And each and every project that is funded

1674
02:34:02,220 --> 02:34:04,600
through the safety and water program was approved by the voters.

1675
02:34:05,060 --> 02:34:09,560
And so that is essentially outlined in the annual report

1676
02:34:09,560 --> 02:34:11,920
and the program document and five year plans.

1677
02:34:12,300 --> 02:34:12,800
I get it.

1678
02:34:12,860 --> 02:34:14,500
And I do think this is in within line.

1679
02:34:14,640 --> 02:34:15,160
So thank you.

1680
02:34:15,320 --> 02:34:15,460
OK.

1681
02:34:15,840 --> 02:34:17,300
Thank you.

1682
02:34:17,820 --> 02:34:19,640
When you have the motion and the second,

1683
02:34:20,820 --> 02:34:22,940
I think we need to take a roll call vote.

1684
02:34:23,040 --> 02:34:24,100
This is a resolution.

1685
02:34:25,220 --> 02:34:33,520
Director Bel, Director Eisenberg, I, Director Estimera, Director Keegan, Vice Chair Santos,

1686
02:34:34,160 --> 02:34:34,980
Director Berla.

1687
02:34:35,880 --> 02:34:36,460
Sure, sure.

1688
02:34:36,960 --> 02:34:37,100
Yes.

1689
02:34:37,540 --> 02:34:38,440
May you name a spoke?

1690
02:34:40,960 --> 02:34:49,040
I won't just say one sentence that I really appreciate staff's initiative, F.N.I,

1691
02:34:53,180 --> 02:34:53,180
that

1692
02:34:53,180 --> 02:34:59,420
a property owner or neighborhood group, I think that's building a lot of bridges

1693
02:34:59,420 --> 02:34:59,980
It's a hard one.

1694
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:13,000
So, yeah, that's a big step on public agencies. So, thank you, staff, for your initiative. Okay, we're moving on to

1695
02:35:13,000 --> 02:35:24,200
I do have a public request Mr. Mark Wise for item 4.1, so I think I would just pull

1696
02:35:24,200 --> 02:35:30,000
item 4.1 for discussion first, and then we'll vote on the council and calendar.

1697
02:35:30,620 --> 02:35:31,660
Mr. Wise, please.

1698
02:35:37,410 --> 02:35:42,950
Good afternoon, board members, and staff, my name is Mark Wise.

1699
02:35:42,950 --> 02:35:49,170
I lived in Palo Alto, I wanted to commend you on acknowledging through your proclamation

1700
02:35:49,170 --> 02:35:59,670
Earth Day, April 22, 2024, and when I read that item in your packet, I immediately thought

1701
02:35:59,670 --> 02:36:07,530
of the song that I first heard on the radio as a kid, but the Dooby Brothers, black waters,

1702
02:36:07,670 --> 02:36:12,790
their number one hit in 1975, is their first hit, and they're from this neck of the woods.

1703
02:36:12,790 --> 02:36:20,130
In fact, Patrick Simmons, he, I believe, went to, he was a Lee, Longhorn, which is only

1704
02:36:20,130 --> 02:36:27,630
three miles from here up, Blossom Hill Road, and, you know, to be brothers have, I mean,

1705
02:36:27,790 --> 02:36:32,550
that song, you know, it's about the Mississippi, but they've brought a lot of claim to our area,

1706
02:36:32,630 --> 02:36:39,030
and I think they're environmentalists, Mr. Bill, Mr. Bell has it, what? And San Jose

1707
02:36:39,030 --> 02:36:47,270
stay as was Ken Kameniti. Anyways, baseball player for me. All right, so, but I'm wondering

1708
02:36:48,830 --> 02:36:54,690
maybe this board could sponsor a songwriting contest because that's song with Adobe Brothers.

1709
02:36:54,930 --> 02:37:00,830
As catchy as it is, it's about the Mississippi River. It might be interesting to see not the

1710
02:37:00,830 --> 02:37:05,270
Adobe Brothers but the next generation. There's a lot of great songwriters and up-and-coming songwriters.

1711
02:37:05,270 --> 02:37:07,570
They don't have to be students, but there's a lot of indie,

1712
02:37:08,130 --> 02:37:09,930
let's just say anyone who's not a major label,

1713
02:37:10,610 --> 02:37:12,610
signy, excluding the Dooby Brothers.

1714
02:37:12,730 --> 02:37:13,970
Maybe the Dooby Brothers could be a judge.

1715
02:37:14,030 --> 02:37:16,050
I think we great to have a songwriting contest

1716
02:37:16,050 --> 02:37:19,070
where Santa Clara County and people in your districts,

1717
02:37:19,690 --> 02:37:22,170
write a song about water, about our crics,

1718
02:37:23,830 --> 02:37:26,810
and our environmental theme, maybe not this year,

1719
02:37:27,010 --> 02:37:29,770
but going forward might be a fun project

1720
02:37:29,770 --> 02:37:32,370
for a value water community engagement

1721
02:37:33,650 --> 02:37:40,610
with my additional 70 seconds. I wanted to shout out Wallace Stegner. Wallace Stegner was my

1722
02:37:40,610 --> 02:37:47,750
neighbor for half of my life during his lifetime in that he was a leading environmentalist

1723
02:37:47,750 --> 02:37:51,170
and professor at Stanford and very involved. I'm not sure what his history is with value

1724
02:37:51,170 --> 02:37:59,860
water, but I like to look it up. But at the 1992 Earth Day in Palo Alto he was supposed to be

1725
02:37:59,860 --> 02:38:04,940
our keynote speaker, but unfortunately he died in a car accident and was never able to attend

1726
02:38:04,940 --> 02:38:05,600
that event.

1727
02:38:06,700 --> 02:38:11,460
I believe perhaps they published what he would have said at the 92 Earth Day in Palo Alto.

1728
02:38:11,960 --> 02:38:19,240
Yes, one little quibble, as I would say, in terms of your proclamation, it is more accurate

1729
02:38:19,240 --> 02:38:24,280
to not just say that Earth Day was founded in the United States, it was actually founded

1730
02:38:24,280 --> 02:38:33,280
in our county in that a huge part of the organization was done in Palo Alto by people like

1731
02:38:33,280 --> 02:38:38,720
Pete McCloskey who wrote a book about the experience and our Congress person at the time.

1732
02:38:39,060 --> 02:38:47,280
I believe and it's before my time really in Palo Alto and Peter Druckmire in 2004, the

1733
02:38:47,280 --> 02:38:53,120
20 second anniversary of it, he later became a water administrator, he probably know him and

1734
02:38:53,120 --> 02:38:56,860
our mayor, he came out of the Earth Day movement on the 20th anniversary of all that.

1735
02:38:57,020 --> 02:39:04,440
As did I. Okay, thank you. Thank you. And thank you for your suggestion. So we, uh, uh,

1736
02:39:04,560 --> 02:39:11,820
is there a motion? Uh, okay. Second, okay. Uh, we need to do a roll call vote.

1737
02:39:12,100 --> 02:39:18,600
We'll come all concerned calendar 4.1, 2, 4.4. Director Bell. Director Eisenberg.

1738
02:39:18,600 --> 02:39:25,640
I direct to Ress Mera, direct to Keegan, vice chair of Santa's, direct to Brawla, chair

1739
02:39:25,640 --> 02:39:32,260
Shua, yes, heavy and I'm a spoke, and Mr. Wise, we hope to see you at the National River

1740
02:39:32,260 --> 02:39:33,620
Cleanup Day.

1741
02:39:35,690 --> 02:39:44,750
Okay, moving on, item 5.1, consider the November 6th, 2023 and January 2nd, 2024 recommendations

1742
02:39:44,750 --> 02:39:49,990
from the board to policy and planning committee to adopt the one-water

1743
02:39:50,990 --> 02:39:54,690
Guadalupe and Upper Pajaro Watershed Plants.

1744
02:39:56,310 --> 02:39:59,970
Lisa, yes, thank you, good afternoon board, I'm Lisa Van Cache, assistant office.

1745
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:12,700
Sir, Watershed, Stewart-Chicken Fanning. And I've got a number of staff who contributed to the Watershed Plan. So, this item is for the Board to adopt the Wadalube and Upper Watershed Pahara Watershed Master Plan.

1746
02:40:14,000 --> 02:40:28,360
These will come back, these recommended actions within the plans will come back to the Board for approval also at a later date as they are folded into operating and capital projects and programs.

1747
02:40:29,100 --> 02:40:35,320
So, again, I do want to thank staff for their contributions to this tremendous two-year effort.

1748
02:40:36,020 --> 02:40:37,940
And I do have a brief presentation.

1749
02:40:38,580 --> 02:40:39,340
Should it please support?

1750
02:40:39,420 --> 02:40:41,500
Or we can go directly to questions and discussion.

1751
02:40:42,140 --> 02:40:45,400
Let's do the presentation because I think this is a big milestone.

1752
02:40:45,860 --> 02:40:48,060
It is very important work.

1753
02:40:49,580 --> 02:40:50,100
Thank you.

1754
02:40:50,940 --> 02:40:54,900
Okay, so today I'll just talk briefly about the watershed planning process.

1755
02:40:54,900 --> 02:41:07,380
So, and then we'll talk including the both flood vulnerability assessment, which was developed as part of this program and one one program, and then focus more attention on the priority actions that are recommended.

1756
02:41:08,880 --> 02:41:22,180
So, like other master planning processes here at Valley Water, Watershed Master plans engage the community and use equitable metrics to identify flood protection and stream stewardship priority actions for sustainable future.

1757
02:41:22,180 --> 02:41:28,620
And one water plans go one step further, so they bring in actions from water supply

1758
02:41:28,620 --> 02:41:34,880
master plan and asset management plan, so they function as truly integrated long-range

1759
02:41:34,880 --> 02:41:37,860
plans for the agency wide.

1760
02:41:39,460 --> 02:41:46,020
The planning process is data-driven, there are five objectives, and baseline and targets are

1761
02:41:46,020 --> 02:41:50,800
established to identify gaps and measure progress towards each

1762
02:41:50,800 --> 02:41:51,380
subjective.

1763
02:41:52,920 --> 02:41:54,940
This is an example metric.

1764
02:41:55,660 --> 02:41:58,540
So this map shows the unprotected portions

1765
02:41:58,540 --> 02:42:02,300
of the upper-poweral watersheds stream buffer lands.

1766
02:42:02,760 --> 02:42:05,560
It's an example of how data is used to identify

1767
02:42:05,560 --> 02:42:07,900
watershed priorities, in this case,

1768
02:42:08,120 --> 02:42:10,860
to develop partnerships to protect the buffer lands.

1769
02:42:14,520 --> 02:42:16,460
And the flood vulnerability assessment

1770
02:42:16,460 --> 02:42:20,820
is another way data is used to identify watershed management priorities.

1771
02:42:24,290 --> 02:42:28,510
So flood vulnerability is a combination of community characteristics

1772
02:42:28,510 --> 02:42:34,750
and the physical extent of frequent flooding to find as the 25 year event.

1773
02:42:35,110 --> 02:42:38,630
The goal is to provide health and safety to the entire community

1774
02:42:38,630 --> 02:42:42,790
or to entire county rather prioritizing underserved communities.

1775
02:42:45,310 --> 02:42:48,470
So this map shows flood vulnerable areas in the Guadalupe watershed.

1776
02:42:48,470 --> 02:42:54,810
But as you can see, there's several areas of risk identified, including Ross, Canoes, and the upper

1777
02:42:54,810 --> 02:42:55,290
blood.

1778
02:42:55,870 --> 02:42:59,350
Please recall these maps as I'll go back to them later.

1779
02:43:00,370 --> 02:43:05,390
Flood vulnerable areas identified in the assessment in the U.S. and U.S. and U.S. and include

1780
02:43:05,390 --> 02:43:10,330
and I just want to note there's additional hydraulic modeling needed in this watershed,

1781
02:43:10,770 --> 02:43:16,150
but you'll see a number of vulnerable areas, such as the east-west little U.S. area, as well

1782
02:43:16,150 --> 02:43:18,590
as the U.S. around Highway 25.

1783
02:43:22,220 --> 02:43:25,420
So what our should management needs to involve the entire community

1784
02:43:25,420 --> 02:43:27,900
to be effective at addressing priorities.

1785
02:43:28,780 --> 02:43:31,160
The public in-person process is very robust

1786
02:43:31,160 --> 02:43:34,120
because it's really the core of the planning process.

1787
02:43:35,900 --> 02:43:37,720
Each watershed plan involved outreach

1788
02:43:37,720 --> 02:43:38,980
to a number of organizations.

1789
02:43:39,320 --> 02:43:42,520
This is just an example, neighborhood groups and individuals.

1790
02:43:43,260 --> 02:43:46,300
We also outreach to Board Advisory Committee's

1791
02:43:46,300 --> 02:43:48,540
following review by the Board Policy and Planning Committee

1792
02:43:48,540 --> 02:43:49,980
Earlier this year.

1793
02:43:52,400 --> 02:44:06,960
Here's an example of a focus workshop. We held this workshop with members of the Guadalupe adapted management team and very engaged stakeholders such as CalChout and the goal was to develop an ecological vision for each sub watershed in the Guadalupe.

1794
02:44:07,660 --> 02:44:20,240
This resulted in targeted recommendations for fish habitat improvement and these generally align with the face implementation plan but they can also serve as objectives for adaptive management for that program.

1795
02:44:23,120 --> 02:44:30,840
Now, I'll highlight the actual key results of the planning process, the priority actions for each watershed.

1796
02:44:31,420 --> 02:44:35,100
I can't cover all the actions here. There's over a hundred between the two plans,

1797
02:44:36,240 --> 02:44:38,920
but no each plan includes a detailed table.

1798
02:44:39,540 --> 02:44:45,960
And the actions are organized by phase where short phase is zero to 10 years.

1799
02:44:46,280 --> 02:44:51,900
Medium is 11 to 20 and long-term is 21 to 30 years post plan adoption.

1800
02:44:51,900 --> 02:44:59,520
This map shows the distribution of priority actions across the Guadalupe watershed.

1801
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:09,360
265 in total. And short-term priorities in the watershed for flood risk reduction include conducting

1802
02:45:09,360 --> 02:45:16,500
two planning studies at flood vulnerable areas. And I'd just recall the map I showed earlier,

1803
02:45:17,200 --> 02:45:23,440
particularly at Canoes and Colero, or recommended in the short term. And the goal of these studies

1804
02:45:23,440 --> 02:45:31,400
is to define a feasible project project one that is affordable and protects critical assets

1805
02:45:31,400 --> 02:45:40,000
and the community. And I also want to point out that these actions include critical asset management

1806
02:45:40,000 --> 02:45:46,420
projects. Total short-term actions for flood risk reduction in the Guadalupe would cost up to

1807
02:45:46,420 --> 02:45:48,160
13 million in the short-term.

1808
02:45:51,870 --> 02:45:55,570
Sure-term ecological priorities include improving habitat for

1809
02:45:55,570 --> 02:46:01,890
had of course, as well as salmon on these creeks, the Wadalupe, assessing feasibility of fish passage

1810
02:46:01,890 --> 02:46:08,130
at Almanin Dam, modifying the Alameda's drop structure to enhance habitat, again a feasibility study,

1811
02:46:08,650 --> 02:46:15,050
and partnerships to address other priority barriers, notably the Highway 17 wildlife and trail

1812
02:46:15,050 --> 02:46:23,310
crossing project. We've got about $100 million of estimated that would in the short term for

1813
02:46:23,310 --> 02:46:30,770
ecological actions. A number of these actions would be covered by face implementation funds,

1814
02:46:31,690 --> 02:46:38,990
but because we don't know precisely which we're planning for an additional 100 million for these projects.

1815
02:46:41,750 --> 02:46:48,190
Water quality improvement would also be another additional 100 million, and this is focus on

1816
02:46:48,190 --> 02:46:50,930
addressing impacts of encampments in the watershed.

1817
02:46:54,660 --> 02:46:57,540
Moving on to the upper part, there are 48 priority

1818
02:46:57,540 --> 02:47:05,960
actions recommended in this watershed. And key actions also include flood actions would complete

1819
02:47:05,960 --> 02:47:10,540
the hydraulic modeling, which is necessary, as I mentioned, as well as conducting

1820
02:47:10,540 --> 02:47:18,360
several new planning studies and completing the lower Yagus capacity restoration projects,

1821
02:47:18,760 --> 02:47:21,840
and these costs are projected to be up to 110 million.

1822
02:47:25,170 --> 02:47:32,830
He ecological actions in the upper power watershed focus on partnerships with agricultural and other

1823
02:47:32,830 --> 02:47:41,610
rural land managers to look at floodplain restoration, including at the PAHO River Agricultural

1824
02:47:41,610 --> 02:47:42,190
Preserve.

1825
02:47:42,330 --> 02:47:48,710
So this is at the confluence of the Agas and the PAHO Rivers and at San Felipe Lake.

1826
02:47:51,950 --> 02:47:54,810
And again, water quality actions focus on partnerships.

1827
02:47:54,810 --> 02:48:02,370
this time with RCDs, the county and municipalities to address sedimentation and bacterial impairments in the creeks.

1828
02:48:05,820 --> 02:48:12,600
So that concludes my presentation. As I mentioned, next steps with adoption,

1829
02:48:13,420 --> 02:48:19,340
staff would include these priority actions into operational and capital programs as funding allows.

1830
02:48:19,340 --> 02:48:25,920
We would integrate the ecological actions into capital projects, potentially as conservation

1831
02:48:25,920 --> 02:48:31,080
or mitigation measures, allowing for these projects to be multi-benefits.

1832
02:48:32,900 --> 02:48:37,540
We would also move on to completing the next two watershed plans, which are the final

1833
02:48:37,540 --> 02:48:41,380
two of the five watershed master plans for the lower peninsula and west valley.

1834
02:48:42,260 --> 02:48:48,500
And then finally, we would conduct a county-wide flood risk prioritization process, so basically

1835
02:48:48,500 --> 02:48:54,540
taking the results of all the county-wide flood vulnerability assessments and allowing the board to

1836
02:48:54,540 --> 02:48:55,940
have input on prioritization.

1837
02:48:59,740 --> 02:49:02,080
So thank you for listening. I'm available for questions.

1838
02:49:02,200 --> 02:49:08,380
Okay. Questions from, well, member, we have, I'll start with direct, direct, direct, what

1839
02:49:08,380 --> 02:49:11,840
relevant. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Yeah, thank you. Question.

1840
02:49:13,480 --> 02:49:17,720
So both the direct or census and I sit on the part where river watershed, flood protection,

1841
02:49:17,720 --> 02:49:22,440
authority, they had their meeting last Friday. I wasn't able to attend because of a conflict

1842
02:49:22,440 --> 02:49:27,540
with another meeting. Was this presented at their meeting? This presentation that you

1843
02:49:27,540 --> 02:49:31,480
present to us tonight, or has it been? Because I don't recall this ever being presented

1844
02:49:31,480 --> 02:49:32,480
to that authority.

1845
02:49:32,640 --> 02:49:38,080
I'm going to ask Nick Maskera to address the question. As I said, we've had, I think, over

1846
02:49:38,080 --> 02:49:42,060
a hundred and twenty meetings. So I want to make sure to talk about this specific region.

1847
02:49:43,020 --> 02:49:46,180
Good afternoon, Directors. And everyone is in my name is Nick Maskera, all of the associate

1848
02:49:46,180 --> 02:49:50,000
environmental planner and project manager for this upper water shed plan.

1849
02:49:50,360 --> 02:49:53,480
This item has not gone to the authority that you're referencing.

1850
02:49:53,840 --> 02:49:59,660
Dr. Varella, however, we're well aware of that authority and we have staff that also are coordinating and following that.

1851
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:05,720
Information has been built into the work that we've done in the plan, but it has not gone to a presentation.

1852
02:50:06,820 --> 02:50:13,840
Correct. If I heard there were 48 actions at a cost of 110 million and we're taking on partners.

1853
02:50:15,600 --> 02:50:21,780
That has to be some explanation as to what that means to that particular region and who are those partners.

1854
02:50:21,780 --> 02:50:29,040
And is the water authority inclusive in that, and are they inclusive in the sharing cost of that as well?

1855
02:50:29,380 --> 02:50:30,100
That's what I'm asking.

1856
02:50:31,040 --> 02:50:35,740
So we do have a table in the plan that identifies partners, but I believe the Pahoro River

1857
02:50:35,740 --> 02:50:41,080
Flag Protection Authority is concerned with the lower Pahoro Watershed.

1858
02:50:41,100 --> 02:50:46,900
And we are concerned in this watershed plan with the upper Pahoro Watershed since that is within our county.

1859
02:50:46,900 --> 02:50:53,100
There are a few actions and one in particular I'm thinking of which has to do with the

1860
02:50:53,100 --> 02:50:59,720
soap-lake flood clean and looking at the flood detention benefits, potential of and restoration

1861
02:50:59,720 --> 02:51:05,360
opportunities at soap-lake, and that in particular would be a project that we would coordinate

1862
02:51:05,360 --> 02:51:10,600
closely with the Parharole, and since it does have very clear downstream benefits.

1863
02:51:10,600 --> 02:51:18,160
Well, the other partners in that, the levees in that region reach constantly, and there's a

1864
02:51:18,160 --> 02:51:24,120
breach last year and I think two years ago, creates major flooding, and much of the habitat

1865
02:51:24,120 --> 02:51:29,000
is destroyed in a particular area surrounding the levees, and that's mostly in a agriculture,

1866
02:51:30,100 --> 02:51:35,500
and out places the workers, which are primarily low-income labor forces that live on these

1867
02:51:35,500 --> 02:51:38,860
particular areas, which takes away their incomes as well.

1868
02:51:38,860 --> 02:51:43,720
The Army Corps of Engineers had very engaged in all these projects in that particular region.

1869
02:51:44,300 --> 02:51:45,760
Are they engaged in this as well?

1870
02:51:46,280 --> 02:51:48,720
And they're bringing their resources to this with each dollars?

1871
02:51:49,720 --> 02:51:55,560
So as I mentioned, another way to think about that watershed plan that I'm referring to is the U.S.

1872
02:51:55,680 --> 02:51:57,320
Yagas watershed plans.

1873
02:51:58,900 --> 02:52:01,240
So we call it the upper-power watershed.

1874
02:52:01,820 --> 02:52:04,140
That's kind of a catch-all for U.S. Yagas.

1875
02:52:04,140 --> 02:52:12,180
But I believe that the Army Corps project is in on the Pocro River, Main Sam, which is outside of Santa Clara County.

1876
02:52:12,620 --> 02:52:14,620
And so therefore is not included in this planning effort.

1877
02:52:15,100 --> 02:52:20,020
Okay. I think it just need a better understanding as to you mentioned partners, the cost,

1878
02:52:20,620 --> 02:52:25,320
and that there are 48 actions, so that I can have a better understanding director Santos when we attend these meetings.

1879
02:52:25,640 --> 02:52:30,240
And questions come up and I think we need to have this presentation offered to that board of directors as well.

1880
02:52:30,920 --> 02:52:32,260
Okay. Thank you.

1881
02:52:32,260 --> 02:52:33,500
That's a good suggestion.

1882
02:52:36,260 --> 02:52:37,260
Director Eisenberg.

1883
02:52:38,180 --> 02:52:38,800
Thank you.

1884
02:52:39,680 --> 02:52:42,780
So looking at slide 16.

1885
02:52:44,880 --> 02:52:48,440
So here you talk about flood risk reduction,

1886
02:52:49,080 --> 02:52:52,020
but I'm not seeing any habitat restoration

1887
02:52:52,020 --> 02:52:58,320
in this to plan to use the strategy

1888
02:52:58,320 --> 02:53:01,900
that is viewed by scientists and many scientists

1889
02:53:01,900 --> 02:53:12,380
as the most effective means of lowering risk of floods, habitat restoration in this, that

1890
02:53:12,380 --> 02:53:18,060
is habitat restoration is not something that engineers generally do, it's something that

1891
02:53:18,060 --> 02:53:22,340
scientists usually do, so is habitat restoration part of your plan?

1892
02:53:23,520 --> 02:53:29,500
Absolutely, so the natural flood protection program was developed to actually prioritize

1893
02:53:29,500 --> 02:53:36,660
projects that incorporate habitat restoration and other means of natural flood protection. That's

1894
02:53:36,660 --> 02:53:42,380
hence the name. So it's really inherent in the planning process for each of our flood protection

1895
02:53:42,380 --> 02:53:49,020
projects to look at potential restoration opportunities for inclusion. It's not addressed

1896
02:53:49,020 --> 02:53:56,540
in words in these actions, but it is described in a little bit more detail in the planet

1897
02:53:56,540 --> 02:54:00,700
itself as well as on our procedures for natural flood protection.

1898
02:54:01,380 --> 02:54:06,520
Given the fact that habitat restoration is viewed by many to be both the most effective

1899
02:54:06,520 --> 02:54:14,600
and the most low and the lowest cost means of protecting our communities from floods,

1900
02:54:15,100 --> 02:54:20,880
I think it is worthy of having a line item for that.

1901
02:54:21,820 --> 02:54:26,520
In fact, I don't know if we're going to be asked to approve this, but I can't approve anything,

1902
02:54:26,520 --> 02:54:33,800
if I don't see habitat restoration as an essential component, if not the primary aspect of any

1903
02:54:33,800 --> 02:54:40,720
of these plans. You know, although I criticize and even centering for centering for saying this,

1904
02:54:41,300 --> 02:54:49,680
we know for a fact that it is engineering that has led to flood problems and it is science that

1905
02:54:49,680 --> 02:54:59,980
going to solve those problems. So we can not engineer ourselves out of science issues and other

1906
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:28,100
So engineering has a role, I'm just not saying science here, I'm not saying habitat, I'm not saying protection, you know, the embracing of if we include, if we, we improve the ground cover, water can go down and that act. If we remove cement and create porous surfaces on the ground. I mean, these things are all explained and all the books on the subject. So I know you recognize the importance of these strategies.

1907
02:55:28,100 --> 02:55:35,640
I'd like to see him reflect it and I guess I pointed out page 18, also I've been

1908
02:55:35,640 --> 02:55:38,460
note about page 18 with regard to that too.

1909
02:55:39,960 --> 02:55:45,580
So yeah, so again, so here we're talking about partnering this water quality monitoring

1910
02:55:45,580 --> 02:55:46,300
that.

1911
02:55:46,540 --> 02:55:56,640
Another aspect of water quality that at least my constituents tell me about is our urgent need

1912
02:55:56,640 --> 02:55:58,760
to take action,

1913
02:56:01,060 --> 02:56:08,280
to lobby and otherwise convince our elected officials to have stronger prohibitions

1914
02:56:08,280 --> 02:56:20,040
on polluting from industrial sites, oil and gas industry, other businesses that harm the

1915
02:56:20,040 --> 02:56:35,380
on behalf of Profit and all the time there are proposed laws in the books and, you know, my elected official, you know, in peddle also does a good job with that.

1916
02:56:35,720 --> 02:56:44,040
So I think that we, that should also be a part of it, is really taking on,

1917
02:56:45,300 --> 02:56:51,680
taking on, you know, we will have cleaner water when industries, when companies stop

1918
02:56:51,680 --> 02:56:56,840
looting it. That's kind of the fastest way to get to cleaner water, right? And then finally,

1919
02:56:57,060 --> 02:57:04,660
there was a slide I didn't write down which one, were you talked about basically embracing

1920
02:57:05,880 --> 02:57:13,280
farmers and landowners about better sustainable agricultural practices that was towards the

1921
02:57:13,280 --> 02:57:18,260
beginning and basically like educating them and assisting them.

1922
02:57:19,540 --> 02:57:28,240
So if you listen to the agricultural committee, they seem pretty darn up to speed on what's sustainable and what isn't,

1923
02:57:28,460 --> 02:57:30,580
but they do state a lot of needs.

1924
02:57:31,840 --> 02:57:42,400
So again, this is kind of an opportunity I think for us to be educated by them to understand what their deeds are and what is holding them back.

1925
02:57:42,400 --> 02:57:49,460
You know, again, like we will not be able to convince people that actually they can afford to do something when they can't.

1926
02:57:50,960 --> 02:57:55,660
You know, and doesn't matter how many times we say yes, you can afford it, yes, you can afford it.

1927
02:57:55,760 --> 02:58:02,880
If they can't they can't. So I don't know the answer of what the farmers need in order to empower them.

1928
02:58:03,280 --> 02:58:04,380
But they do.

1929
02:58:05,380 --> 02:58:10,740
So rather than we educate them, I'd like us to be educated by them.

1930
02:58:10,740 --> 02:58:16,780
So maybe kind of work that into our plan too. As I said before, we all have a lot to learn from

1931
02:58:18,060 --> 02:58:26,720
those who's hands get dirty every day in this in this in this in the processes and our shared goals of

1932
02:58:26,720 --> 02:58:31,120
Saving the world so that people can have clean water

1933
02:58:31,120 --> 02:58:34,360
Because there's no clean water when there's no world

1934
02:58:34,360 --> 02:58:39,560
So I appreciate your work and I know you show these goals. So thank you

1935
02:58:44,070 --> 02:58:44,830
to Dr. Keegan

1936
02:58:46,090 --> 02:58:48,190
Thank you, Chersho.

1937
02:58:49,930 --> 02:58:51,190
Hello Ms. Bancosh.

1938
02:58:51,530 --> 02:58:54,610
I would like to commend you and your staff

1939
02:58:54,610 --> 02:58:56,730
for an excellent work product.

1940
02:58:57,310 --> 02:59:02,370
I know this has been many, many hours of hard work and effort

1941
02:59:02,370 --> 02:59:04,750
and pulling a lot of things together.

1942
02:59:04,830 --> 02:59:08,630
And I hesitate to praise anyone in particular

1943
02:59:08,630 --> 02:59:11,390
because there have been so many people that have worked on this

1944
02:59:11,390 --> 02:59:13,730
but I would like to commend you for your leadership

1945
02:59:13,730 --> 02:59:23,730
and also Mr. Mendenhall, who has been slaving away for many, many years on this, and I also just wanted to call out

1946
02:59:25,980 --> 02:59:50,840
I've seen Ruhani and Demerous Villobos Gildenda, who aren't with us anymore, but I mean they're with us a little larger sense, but they're not here at Bellywater anymore and they've made many great contributions and I'm glad to see that they were acknowledged here.

1947
02:59:51,600 --> 02:59:59,320
You know, one of the things that I just wanted to point out is that on page 13.

1948
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:27,320
It talks about what is the vision for this and so the one water vision I just want to read this out, because, you know, maybe not everyone found this little tidbit of information, but one water seeks to manage Santa Clara County water resources, holistically and sustainably to benefit people in the environment in a way that is informed by community values. And I think that's a great vision to have and I think it really encapsulates what this is all about.

1949
03:00:29,620 --> 03:00:37,060
One thing, and I'm probably very conscious of this because a lot of people in my community

1950
03:00:37,060 --> 03:00:41,440
have to pay flood insurance, and either they have to pay flood insurance or they need

1951
03:00:41,440 --> 03:00:46,500
flood insurance, and they really can't afford it because a lot of low income people do live

1952
03:00:47,040 --> 03:00:47,840
by the creeks.

1953
03:00:48,600 --> 03:00:57,180
So we're not explicit about it, but reduced flood risk is item C, and so I'm assuming

1954
03:00:57,180 --> 03:01:04,700
that's implicit within that reducing flood risk. Correct. So that's correct. So there is the flood

1955
03:01:04,700 --> 03:01:11,980
vulnerability assessment does start with a 25 year flood event and that's the modeling that is

1956
03:01:11,980 --> 03:01:18,480
the basis for that vulnerability assessment. Now as you know it would be the 100 year flood that

1957
03:01:18,480 --> 03:01:25,100
would actually remove people from the flood plane and reduce the insurance. So that's why we need to take

1958
03:01:25,100 --> 03:01:32,960
Once we have those vulnerable areas, for example, along Kanois, we know that's a vulnerable

1959
03:01:32,960 --> 03:01:38,860
area. We would then take it a step further in planning to determine what is the level of

1960
03:01:38,860 --> 03:01:43,820
service. Can we get to a 100-year in a sustainable and affordable way?

1961
03:01:44,960 --> 03:01:48,200
Thank you for that clarification. Again,

1962
03:01:50,660 --> 03:01:56,240
a beautiful report and a useful report. So, thank you again.

1963
03:01:56,640 --> 03:01:59,680
Thank you.

1964
03:01:59,900 --> 03:02:00,720
Dr. Bell.

1965
03:02:01,840 --> 03:02:02,640
Did it work?

1966
03:02:03,500 --> 03:02:04,740
Yeah, everything's fine.

1967
03:02:05,880 --> 03:02:06,840
Good job.

1968
03:02:07,180 --> 03:02:08,720
I want to echo the comments.

1969
03:02:10,660 --> 03:02:17,420
And I appreciate the format and the way it was presented is very clear.

1970
03:02:18,520 --> 03:02:25,640
I wanted to extend my remarks to protecting homeowners and people that live in.

1971
03:02:25,640 --> 03:02:35,540
apartments, condos, and so forth, in terms of flag protection because I think that we're

1972
03:02:35,540 --> 03:02:43,580
dealing with people that are paying extra insurance and it's getting really bad with

1973
03:02:43,580 --> 03:02:50,860
the insurance, some other insurance. It's getting really bad and people are having the insurance

1974
03:02:51,900 --> 03:03:00,720
cancels. People are concerned about insurance companies using this kind of issue to raise the

1975
03:03:00,720 --> 03:03:10,360
insurance on people's proper homes. And I've got a lot of seniors and low-income families

1976
03:03:10,360 --> 03:03:19,240
that are really stressed out about that. So completing the projects or as important. The other

1977
03:03:19,240 --> 03:03:30,700
issue for me was partners. I think we can be aggressive in planning projects with county

1978
03:03:30,700 --> 03:03:38,640
city agencies that have like like I know when they build almedine expressway down the

1979
03:03:38,640 --> 03:03:44,560
street here. I'll just this is like a gripe that the whole neighborhood knows about.

1980
03:03:48,500 --> 03:03:49,220
It's

1981
03:03:49,220 --> 03:04:01,440
People told the county roads department that the cobert under Ross Creek was built to small.

1982
03:04:01,640 --> 03:04:03,380
People told them that.

1983
03:04:03,760 --> 03:04:05,620
Yet they went ahead and they didn't change their design.

1984
03:04:05,880 --> 03:04:11,340
They built the cobert at a small, now they're going back and we're studying it.

1985
03:04:11,340 --> 03:04:21,700
find, well, it's way too small. It causes a backup of the creek and causes dangerous flooding.

1986
03:04:22,420 --> 03:04:29,620
I think a five-year level, five-year, ten-year level, for all the homers up the creek, and

1987
03:04:29,620 --> 03:04:36,960
that little blockage when the creek goes underneath Almond Expressway is part of the problem.

1988
03:04:36,960 --> 03:04:41,720
So I think going to the county and saying, well, we need your help in fixing this.

1989
03:04:41,720 --> 03:04:49,400
This was not done correctly when the road was built in the first place, and I think we

1990
03:04:49,400 --> 03:04:57,020
have those kind of situations where we can request, we can make requests, we can put it

1991
03:04:57,020 --> 03:04:59,980
on the table so that people know we're trying to...

1992
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:08,140
Trying to solve their problems, help them with their affordability crisis at their end.

1993
03:05:11,700 --> 03:05:13,060
It's very important

1994
03:05:13,060 --> 03:05:18,320
that we show up for the people in that regard. And I think the plan, now we have a plan.

1995
03:05:29,380 --> 03:05:29,980
Let's

1996
03:05:29,980 --> 03:05:39,040
kind of a picture of what we can do and let's let's all commit to making it happen and

1997
03:05:39,040 --> 03:05:39,960
they can a reality.

1998
03:05:45,060 --> 03:05:45,570
Dr. Estromera.

1999
03:05:46,160 --> 03:05:46,280
Thank you.

2000
03:05:46,480 --> 03:05:54,160
Madam Chair, I just wanted to thank the team for congratulating for great job and move the recommendations.

2001
03:05:54,500 --> 03:05:55,040
Both recommendations.

2002
03:05:56,820 --> 03:05:59,500
So we have, okay.

2003
03:05:59,500 --> 03:06:14,560
I want to say one thing that in addition to everybody who said good job and thank the team particularly Brian, I understand you're not on this effort any longer but congratulations.

2004
03:06:17,280 --> 03:06:27,460
Earlier we talked about how the current five year CIP is overwhelming and how the ongoing maintenance of our facilities

2005
03:06:28,340 --> 03:06:33,500
is so needed or also how we're going to get into

2006
03:06:35,060 --> 03:06:38,080
conditions that we can serve to people.

2007
03:06:38,680 --> 03:06:42,460
Look at these watershed, massive plants that all work.

2008
03:06:43,620 --> 03:06:46,360
Well, never, never get done.

2009
03:06:47,060 --> 03:06:54,080
So many services and then good things that we can do for the community.

2010
03:06:54,080 --> 03:07:02,060
So, yeah, it's good to have a blueprint of what's out there for us in the future.

2011
03:07:02,720 --> 03:07:04,940
So, thank you very much.

2012
03:07:05,520 --> 03:07:07,900
We have a motion in a second.

2013
03:07:08,100 --> 03:07:09,420
Madam Chair, may I interrupt?

2014
03:07:10,520 --> 03:07:11,280
Oh, I forgot.

2015
03:07:12,380 --> 03:07:13,380
I'm sorry.

2016
03:07:13,860 --> 03:07:13,920
I apologize.

2017
03:07:14,700 --> 03:07:16,560
I have two hands.

2018
03:07:17,180 --> 03:07:20,240
So, Loma Pareda resource conservation district.

2019
03:07:23,620 --> 03:07:27,740
Yes, thank you chair shoe. This is Peter and I can get him to press that button.

2020
03:07:27,920 --> 03:07:28,720
Hi, Peter. Yeah.

2021
03:07:28,720 --> 03:07:30,220
The director is with the land trust.

2022
03:07:31,720 --> 03:07:38,960
And we've done some collaborative work with you on both in both the positions of the land trust and the LPRCB.

2023
03:07:39,620 --> 03:07:44,560
You know, of course, down in that watershed that floods and the copper over the water district.

2024
03:07:44,700 --> 03:07:50,980
Also, I mean, the Carnegie River water district also has land, basically adjacent to the land we manage.

2025
03:07:52,560 --> 03:07:57,520
So we've partnered some things down there, like in the area cleaned up, and we're going

2026
03:07:57,520 --> 03:08:00,820
to some of the growers and our business that we're having some issues with garbage

2027
03:08:00,820 --> 03:08:02,340
and whatnot.

2028
03:08:03,240 --> 03:08:09,880
Other than that, I believe that the U.V. is a fairly protected creek for steelhead, and

2029
03:08:09,880 --> 03:08:13,680
possibly maybe a future shift at the Senate, which actually used to run up some of these

2030
03:08:13,680 --> 03:08:19,760
where I'm here, according to the so-called all-time fold times that I've talked to over

2031
03:08:19,760 --> 03:08:26,500
my lifetime. So I think it's a paramount force that you and really unhappy that this

2032
03:08:26,500 --> 03:08:34,220
report focuses on a fish mitigation attack. I think that's a paramount force. And I think

2033
03:08:34,220 --> 03:08:40,100
I want to mention, so Blake, I believe there's a merit effort to get some conservation

2034
03:08:40,100 --> 03:08:45,860
these minutes going in that area to help protect that part of the water shed and the

2035
03:08:45,860 --> 03:08:51,600
toxic span of wetland. I've heard a talk of that. I think most of it's in San

2036
03:08:51,600 --> 03:08:55,140
Anita County, because I asked this question yesterday, I was just wondering if you

2037
03:08:55,140 --> 03:09:00,660
know if the water's involved in any of that, if the water's involved in any of that,

2038
03:09:00,660 --> 03:09:05,280
if you're currently in a basement, stay on there. That's just one question. There's

2039
03:09:05,280 --> 03:09:10,980
another issue I see on the office, and that's the, that invasive, a random door of

2040
03:09:10,980 --> 03:09:17,020
don't ask. I think it's called, you're familiar with that, correct? Correct. Yes, and that

2041
03:09:17,020 --> 03:09:23,220
is pretty much taking over a law of the channel in Sam Martin's, is there going to be an

2042
03:09:23,220 --> 03:09:29,620
effort to mitigate that, get rid of that stuff? So we do have a county-wide invasive plant management

2043
03:09:29,620 --> 03:09:36,480
program and her Rindo as you mentioned a terrible problem particularly in South County.

2044
03:09:37,640 --> 03:09:42,880
You know, we prioritize areas as we have funding so we certainly will take that input and ensure

2045
03:09:42,880 --> 03:09:49,340
that's included as a priority if possible. And then your other question was regarding soap

2046
03:09:49,340 --> 03:09:54,020
lake and though valley water is not directly involved or with the efforts to

2047
03:09:54,020 --> 03:09:59,980
to acquire lands for preservation and so click, we do...

2048
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:12,680
Meet regularly with regional partners, as you mentioned, to provide information regarding, of course, you know, our areas of expertise, hydrology, hydraulics, other technical information and support of those efforts.

2049
03:10:13,780 --> 03:10:20,760
Yeah, you know, I like, you know, I've seen some of the valley waters of watershed and wetlands,

2050
03:10:20,960 --> 03:10:24,220
restorations, projects, and they're fantastic.

2051
03:10:24,860 --> 03:10:30,240
These lakes of America, and what you're going down on the carnivores is, I think that's great.

2052
03:10:30,640 --> 03:10:32,280
It would be great if we could see more of that.

2053
03:10:32,280 --> 03:10:34,700
I'm not sure if you guys have the funding for that.

2054
03:10:34,940 --> 03:10:39,660
Although, I mean, there's grant money out there that is secure to you, so that, because I'll

2055
03:10:39,660 --> 03:10:44,700
has to do a lot of flight control, have to do a lot of plane water, and the wetlands will be

2056
03:10:44,700 --> 03:10:46,320
a great car and sponge.

2057
03:10:47,360 --> 03:10:50,660
There's a lot of benefit to wetlands and what nature does.

2058
03:10:52,080 --> 03:10:55,980
Well, the only other thing I want to mention, Director Keegan mentioned the vision.

2059
03:10:57,260 --> 03:10:59,420
But I didn't see that she mentioned acting that vision.

2060
03:10:59,560 --> 03:11:01,160
It was people and some other stuff.

2061
03:11:02,000 --> 03:11:03,260
But you might want to put that in that vision.

2062
03:11:03,360 --> 03:11:09,020
To be exact, it's a really important, really important component of preservation of

2063
03:11:09,020 --> 03:11:13,200
you want to shed water quality to everything because most of the forms are right of all of these

2064
03:11:13,200 --> 03:11:18,100
partnerships or with it. So anyway those are just my comments. I appreciate this thing to me.

2065
03:11:18,620 --> 03:11:22,180
Thank you. The next one, I think Miss Irvin.

2066
03:11:30,430 --> 03:11:36,170
Good afternoon. I want to admit that a lot of staff on the process to develop these plans

2067
03:11:36,170 --> 03:11:42,590
aside from the chaplain and these are multiple plans. The concern now should be implementation.

2068
03:11:42,590 --> 03:11:48,730
it. Therefore, I suggest that the projects identified the watershed master plans be considered

2069
03:11:48,730 --> 03:11:55,250
and discussed as part of the annual Capital Improvement Plan process. And there should

2070
03:11:55,250 --> 03:12:02,010
also be periodic view of the progress implementing the plans. That's what you see. And

2071
03:12:02,010 --> 03:12:08,610
your review is preferable, or at least every two years. Therefore, our progress report on

2072
03:12:08,610 --> 03:12:16,130
Highly Creek Waterset Plan which was approved in March of 2022 to be scheduled as soon as possible.

2073
03:12:16,270 --> 03:12:17,990
Thank you.

2074
03:12:18,150 --> 03:12:19,390
Thank you for your comment.

2075
03:12:19,810 --> 03:12:36,690
I believe that Ms. Van Krashe at her opening remark has stated that there will be part of the process to include it in the operation plan and also the capital improvement plan as we should.

2076
03:12:36,690 --> 03:12:45,370
Okay, are there any, there's no more public comment and I think we have, we have a motion in the second.

2077
03:12:45,950 --> 03:12:47,510
On your favor say aye.

2078
03:12:48,850 --> 03:12:49,430
Opposed?

2079
03:12:52,590 --> 03:12:55,770
Motion carries six to one.

2080
03:12:58,060 --> 03:12:58,080
Okay.

2081
03:12:58,520 --> 03:13:06,820
Moving on to item five point to consider the January 2nd, 2024 board policy and planning committee recommendation

2082
03:13:06,820 --> 03:13:11,260
to adopt the proposed changes to board governance policy,

2083
03:13:11,520 --> 03:13:15,520
executive limitation, EL-3, human resources.

2084
03:13:17,220 --> 03:13:23,380
So, yeah, this is something that's more of a administrative update to EL-3,

2085
03:13:24,700 --> 03:13:29,100
and the PPC reviewed it and recommend the board to approve it.

2086
03:13:29,720 --> 03:13:32,620
So, Patrice, do you go to say something?

2087
03:13:32,620 --> 03:13:40,600
Just in the interest of time, the information is here I am here for questions unless you want me to provide additional summary.

2088
03:13:42,060 --> 03:13:48,720
Can we have a brief summary for the, you know, for the pleasure of the public and others watching.

2089
03:13:49,660 --> 03:13:54,300
And for me, doesn't feel long one. More information is always better right y'all.

2090
03:13:54,580 --> 03:13:57,500
Maybe we can put on the red line version.

2091
03:13:59,060 --> 03:14:00,580
Can we do that?

2092
03:14:05,970 --> 03:14:06,210
Have it.

2093
03:14:06,470 --> 03:14:07,310
I don't have it.

2094
03:14:07,610 --> 03:14:08,650
I'm going to get help.

2095
03:14:08,950 --> 03:14:09,370
Thank you.

2096
03:14:10,530 --> 03:14:11,390
How do you find it?

2097
03:14:17,250 --> 03:14:18,190
Not it shouldn't be on

2098
03:14:21,040 --> 03:14:21,400
that.

2099
03:14:21,580 --> 03:14:22,860
It was not a presentation.

2100
03:14:24,580 --> 03:14:27,420
However, why don't I just provide you the information?

2101
03:14:28,200 --> 03:14:28,520
I'm verbally.

2102
03:14:29,220 --> 03:14:36,360
And what we did for this one is we proposed revisions for the EL changes in the district.

2103
03:14:36,860 --> 03:14:40,860
So we changed the district to valley water just to be in line with our

2104
03:14:40,860 --> 03:14:50,860
our naming. We revised 3.7 and 3.17 and then let me just let you know those revisions

2105
03:14:50,860 --> 03:14:59,560
of 3.7 and 3.17. 3.7 we said we would retain no more than the number of unclassified positions.

2106
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:25,880
Approved by the board in the budget. It was a number, and we thought, why don't we ensure that whatever the board approves be implemented. And then on 3.17, we just changed to say, operate an environment where there are good labor relations with the workforce and the bargaining units. So we just clarified that sentence.

2107
03:15:25,880 --> 03:15:48,380
And then we removed the reference to board appointed officer interpretation and removed the board appointed officer interpretations so that we can have really just one policy that we go to not two documents but one policy and that policy is the board policy document.

2108
03:15:48,500 --> 03:15:49,940
Thank you.

2109
03:15:50,880 --> 03:15:54,100
Any further questions after that explanation?

2110
03:15:55,360 --> 03:16:04,540
Okay. Are there any public comment? Thank you, Mayor Chair. I have no request to speak at this time.

2111
03:16:05,000 --> 03:16:13,720
Okay, then can I entertain a motion? Okay. We have a motion and a second.

2112
03:16:13,720 --> 03:16:17,500
and all in favor say aye.

2113
03:16:17,520 --> 03:16:18,440
All right.

2114
03:16:19,480 --> 03:16:20,180
Opposed?

2115
03:16:20,620 --> 03:16:22,160
Motion carries unanimously.

2116
03:16:27,430 --> 03:16:34,690
And moving on to item 5.3, consider the January 2nd 2024 board policy and planning committee

2117
03:16:34,690 --> 03:16:40,930
recommendation to adopt the proposed changes to board governance policy, executive limitation

2118
03:16:40,930 --> 03:16:45,550
the EL-8 inclusion, equal opportunity,

2119
03:16:47,730 --> 03:16:51,010
discrimination, harassment, prevention, and diversity.

2120
03:16:52,270 --> 03:16:53,810
Put your seats, that's yours again.

2121
03:16:54,530 --> 03:17:01,210
Yes. On behalf of time, I can do a summary, or I can answer questions as.

2122
03:17:03,570 --> 03:17:06,110
Okay. Okay.

2123
03:17:06,110 --> 03:17:11,210
I don't see any requests to provide further detail.

2124
03:17:11,350 --> 03:17:13,030
Are there any public comment?

2125
03:17:14,050 --> 03:17:14,610
Thank you Madam Chair.

2126
03:17:14,730 --> 03:17:16,090
I have no requests at this time.

2127
03:17:17,090 --> 03:17:19,810
So we have motion and second on in favor say aye.

2128
03:17:21,550 --> 03:17:21,670
Okay.

2129
03:17:21,770 --> 03:17:22,370
Opposed?

2130
03:17:22,790 --> 03:17:23,030
No.

2131
03:17:23,570 --> 03:17:24,710
Motion carries unanimously.

2132
03:17:26,190 --> 03:17:26,270
Okay.

2133
03:17:26,270 --> 03:17:27,330
Thank you, Patreise.

2134
03:17:29,010 --> 03:17:31,430
I have been five points for board committee reports.

2135
03:17:32,030 --> 03:17:34,310
We have quite a few under the attachment.

2136
03:17:34,310 --> 03:17:43,170
any questions from board member related to any of these attachment, then the responsible

2137
03:17:43,170 --> 03:17:53,390
committee chair can report back. Okay, I'm not hearing any requests. Are there any

2138
03:17:53,390 --> 03:18:00,250
public comments? Thank you, Madam Chair. I have no request at this time. Okay, we don't need

2139
03:18:00,250 --> 03:18:04,410
to take an action, this is for information only,

2140
03:18:05,050 --> 03:18:10,610
and then the next item on our agenda is CEO and Chiefs report.

2141
03:18:11,350 --> 03:18:12,910
I'll turn it to let's see you all.

2142
03:18:12,990 --> 03:18:15,630
Yes, I'd good afternoon, Chair Schill and members of the Board.

2143
03:18:15,830 --> 03:18:17,410
We're a calendar, I'll see you all today.

2144
03:18:17,530 --> 03:18:18,470
We have several reports.

2145
03:18:18,590 --> 03:18:20,850
I'm going to start off with Chiefs Goodson.

2146
03:18:21,510 --> 03:18:22,550
Thank you, CEO, calendar.

2147
03:18:22,690 --> 03:18:24,270
Good afternoon, Chair Schill and members of the Board.

2148
03:18:24,570 --> 03:18:25,990
You have before you the monthly one

2149
03:18:25,990 --> 03:18:28,390
pages for the offices of civic engagement and government

2150
03:18:28,390 --> 03:18:32,830
relations just a couple highlights denote from each. First on March 9th, the Campbell Little League

2151
03:18:32,830 --> 03:18:37,230
hosted its opening day ceremony at Campbell Little League field to kick off the start of the baseball season,

2152
03:18:37,750 --> 03:18:41,710
and promote the new water bottle refill station made possible through a valley water refill station

2153
03:18:41,710 --> 03:18:45,010
grants. That's been a fit the entirely for the rest of the season and beyond.

2154
03:18:45,810 --> 03:18:51,410
Secondly, 82-409, that's Valley Waters, Bill Proposal, that's sponsored by the Calvary Municipal Utilities

2155
03:18:51,410 --> 03:18:55,470
Association, was referred to the Assembly Water Parks and Wildlife Committee, so it continues to

2156
03:18:55,470 --> 03:18:59,430
progress. It's expected to be heard on April 16th and we're working very closely, of course,

2157
03:18:59,590 --> 03:19:03,270
with CMUA on briefing the members of the committee and preparing for that here in presentation.

2158
03:19:03,770 --> 03:19:09,470
That concludes my report. I'm going to move towards acting chief your PUTU for the board of Sheds.

2159
03:19:13,090 --> 03:19:18,950
Thank you, sir. You calendar, Bavaniya Puthit. Chief of the Board of Sheds,

2160
03:19:19,250 --> 03:19:23,890
acting chief of the board of Sheds. The storm report is in front of your, as a hand out today,

2161
03:19:23,890 --> 03:19:27,130
it's continued to be relatively bad season,

2162
03:19:27,630 --> 03:19:30,630
no unusual activities other than our typo bit debris

2163
03:19:30,630 --> 03:19:33,610
and sediment removal, along with preparing

2164
03:19:33,610 --> 03:19:37,370
about 1200 linear feet of our creek banks.

2165
03:19:37,670 --> 03:19:39,150
And that's all, I have.

2166
03:19:41,190 --> 03:19:43,670
All right, and then I'm going to round the south with the report

2167
03:19:43,670 --> 03:19:45,230
that I was right, please be able to give

2168
03:19:45,230 --> 03:19:47,690
I think a little piece of good news here.

2169
03:19:48,030 --> 03:19:50,130
And it's still to have purified water bottling

2170
03:19:50,130 --> 03:19:52,550
I'm going to ask for a brand in the Nigerian or go ahead

2171
03:19:52,550 --> 03:19:58,930
hand out the first official opportunity for us to pass out with advanced

2172
03:19:58,930 --> 03:19:59,970
terrified water and

2173
03:20:00,640 --> 03:20:16,400
This is a major milestone. We just were updated on our multi-year effort to get here and finally got a approval just last week. Just to let you know, we are the first agency to bottle a purified water for outreach purposes under the new regulations under 2017.

2174
03:20:17,020 --> 03:20:27,740
We are the second agency in California, but we're the first one to do it under the regulations and third in the nation to bottle purified water as part of the conference of outreach and education program.

2175
03:20:27,740 --> 03:20:35,940
As a result of us being able to do this right now, we have 16,000 bottles of purified water which were approved for distribution by our regulators.

2176
03:20:36,900 --> 03:20:43,400
This gives you the opportunity to taste our purified water and this effort has been ongoing since 2018.

2177
03:20:43,400 --> 03:20:53,620
I do want to point out all the staff and if you're standing, if you can wave your hands, I think this is really the accomplishment of staff from the recycling purified water unit.

2178
03:20:56,200 --> 03:20:58,500
Our officers, civic engagement,

2179
03:21:00,860 --> 03:21:04,660
operations, water quality and laboratory services.

2180
03:21:05,040 --> 03:21:09,020
This is truly an accomplishment and I wanted to make sure the directors were the first

2181
03:21:09,020 --> 03:21:13,260
to be able to obtain and hopefully taste the purified water.

2182
03:21:13,600 --> 03:21:15,480
This time we'll turn it over to you, my chair.

2183
03:21:16,280 --> 03:21:17,280
Madam Chair, may I?

2184
03:21:17,560 --> 03:21:18,440
Well, last year.

2185
03:21:18,980 --> 03:21:23,360
Yeah, I'd like to take the time, thank you, CEO calendar, because I was part of the team

2186
03:21:23,360 --> 03:21:30,120
Tony put together 20 something years ago, with Downey Orange County, we drank their water, now we're drinking ours.

2187
03:21:30,460 --> 03:21:32,280
We actually know first tone.

2188
03:21:39,770 --> 03:21:42,230
And that will conclude the CEO report.

2189
03:21:42,410 --> 03:21:42,750
Okay.

2190
03:21:42,970 --> 03:21:43,390
Thank you.

2191
03:21:43,470 --> 03:21:43,810
Great.

2192
03:21:45,270 --> 03:21:45,370
Thank you.

2193
03:21:46,830 --> 03:21:47,530
Thank you everybody.

2194
03:21:49,170 --> 03:21:49,730
Okay.

2195
03:21:49,730 --> 03:21:50,470
Oh, good.

2196
03:21:51,210 --> 03:21:52,370
It's out.

2197
03:21:54,330 --> 03:21:54,890
It's out.

2198
03:21:55,850 --> 03:22:06,270
Okay, well move on to item 11.1, consider side letter agreement to memorandum of understanding

2199
03:22:06,270 --> 03:22:12,930
between the Santa Clara Valley Wallet District and Employee Association, ask me local 101

2200
03:22:12,930 --> 03:22:23,230
Engineer Society, IFPTE, local 21, and Professional Managers Association, IFPTE, local 21, and

2201
03:22:23,230 --> 03:22:31,530
up resolution approving terms of side-led agreement and approving force amended compensation plan

2202
03:22:31,530 --> 03:22:37,190
for unrepresented employees in the executive service.

2203
03:22:37,670 --> 03:22:38,870
So, the trees.

2204
03:22:39,330 --> 03:22:43,910
Thank you. Again, in the honor of time, you have the information in front of you.

2205
03:22:44,010 --> 03:22:48,270
If you'd like a brief summary, I can definitely provide it, or I can answer questions.

2206
03:22:51,440 --> 03:22:51,920
Okay.

2207
03:22:52,720 --> 03:22:52,840
Yeah.

2208
03:22:56,600 --> 03:22:57,080
Good question.

2209
03:22:58,020 --> 03:22:58,660
Just clear, Frank.

2210
03:22:58,900 --> 03:23:00,980
So this has been approved by both sides.

2211
03:23:01,220 --> 03:23:02,900
And now it's just up to us.

2212
03:23:03,720 --> 03:23:03,880
Yes.

2213
03:23:04,860 --> 03:23:06,740
The site letters have already been.

2214
03:23:06,740 --> 03:23:09,240
The site letter has already been approved by the three.

2215
03:23:09,480 --> 03:23:10,700
The man is an envoy labor.

2216
03:23:11,080 --> 03:23:14,360
And now it's up to us to just approve what they already decide.

2217
03:23:15,360 --> 03:23:17,920
The site letter has already been approved by the bargain.

2218
03:23:17,920 --> 03:23:21,320
It's once you approve this, I will sign on behalf of them.

2219
03:23:21,860 --> 03:23:22,400
Got it.

2220
03:23:22,400 --> 03:23:23,500
Okay, thank you.

2221
03:23:23,560 --> 03:23:23,980
It's just great.

2222
03:23:24,020 --> 03:23:24,360
I understand.

2223
03:23:25,560 --> 03:23:26,120
Okay.

2224
03:23:26,260 --> 03:23:27,640
Are there any public comment?

2225
03:23:28,580 --> 03:23:29,340
Thank you, Madam Chair.

2226
03:23:29,440 --> 03:23:30,960
I have no requests at this time.

2227
03:23:34,700 --> 03:23:36,000
We need to take a vote.

2228
03:23:36,820 --> 03:23:39,340
And this is a local vote.

2229
03:23:40,640 --> 03:23:41,660
Director Bell?

2230
03:23:42,500 --> 03:23:42,900
Absent?

2231
03:23:42,900 --> 03:23:43,760
Director Eisenberg?

2232
03:23:44,360 --> 03:23:45,320
Director Esmerra?

2233
03:23:46,420 --> 03:23:47,120
Director Keegan?

2234
03:23:47,620 --> 03:23:47,840
Yes.

2235
03:23:48,280 --> 03:23:49,400
Vice Chair Santas?

2236
03:23:50,660 --> 03:23:51,380
Director Braille?

2237
03:23:52,740 --> 03:23:52,780
Yes.

2238
03:23:52,780 --> 03:23:53,260
Chair Shua?

2239
03:23:53,880 --> 03:23:54,160
Yes.

2240
03:23:55,240 --> 03:24:09,720
Okay, I'm going to be approved for moving on to item 13.1, review the fiscal year 2023, 2024 for policy planning calendar.

2241
03:24:10,360 --> 03:24:18,500
I will do a quick review for the public of what's at the changed schedule on two items.

2242
03:24:18,500 --> 03:24:27,200
Under Section 5, secure existing water supply and water supply infrastructure, and update on the Delta

2243
03:24:27,200 --> 03:24:30,900
Convince Project will be coming in the full board in May.

2244
03:24:31,400 --> 03:24:41,060
So that is a desk I do has changed, and I know many public is very interested in that.

2245
03:24:41,460 --> 03:24:47,200
Item 18 provided affordable and cost effective level of services, the grants that is

2246
03:24:47,200 --> 03:24:55,300
report timing was updated to every other months starting in January. So on the report you see

2247
03:24:55,300 --> 03:24:59,840
the crossed out every other month which means that the report will come to us.

2248
03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:10,800
So those are the two changed changes that happened with our planning calendar. So is that any questions?

2249
03:25:10,800 --> 03:25:13,160
And yes, the record will

2250
03:25:16,740 --> 03:25:22,860
probably be hot number I am 11

2251
03:25:26,700 --> 03:25:33,900
Okay, he was he was out that item 11. That's that's the side letter agreement

2252
03:25:33,900 --> 03:25:37,300
We said the street bargaining units and also the

2253
03:25:37,880 --> 03:25:43,460
Represent employee is there to summers as a service. So you

2254
03:25:45,520 --> 03:25:47,840
Director Bellevue and

2255
03:25:47,840 --> 03:25:52,060
Okay. We will note that for the record for the record. Okay.

2256
03:25:52,600 --> 03:26:03,720
I have it. And so, so, this is, I'm on item 13.1, which is the board policy planning calendar.

2257
03:26:04,320 --> 03:26:07,140
I have a question from Director Eisenberg.

2258
03:26:08,760 --> 03:26:12,980
Okay. Are there any public comment on the board planning calendar?

2259
03:26:13,580 --> 03:26:15,940
Thank you, Madam Chair. I have no request at this time.

2260
03:26:15,940 --> 03:26:27,480
Okay. Thank you. Moving on to 14 Board Member Reports Announcements. So we'll start from this end to Director Keegan.

2261
03:26:32,600 --> 03:26:34,680
Sir, our policy will have to do it every time.

2262
03:26:35,660 --> 03:26:39,040
Okay, change. Every meeting. Okay.

2263
03:26:40,040 --> 03:26:45,580
We can change our policy if you, but as of now, we have to do it every time.

2264
03:26:45,580 --> 03:26:49,060
So that's to a real quick.

2265
03:26:49,580 --> 03:26:51,300
I'll do that to attend this.

2266
03:26:51,300 --> 03:27:00,500
Since the last meeting, I attended an audit committee prep meeting went through the board

2267
03:27:00,500 --> 03:27:09,400
diversity training and attended the water when a one academy, and that's it.

2268
03:27:12,860 --> 03:27:16,980
Okay, director, we're out last week.

2269
03:27:17,300 --> 03:27:19,100
Send the rest out the Mendoza Water Authority.

2270
03:27:19,640 --> 03:27:21,500
We'll be met with the Reclamation.

2271
03:27:22,400 --> 03:27:23,760
Oh, hello, I need this.

2272
03:27:24,940 --> 03:27:26,940
Meet with the Santa, we start the Mendoza Water Authority.

2273
03:27:27,080 --> 03:27:30,160
We met with the Bureau of Reclamation and New Director.

2274
03:27:30,360 --> 03:27:32,240
And we had a meeting with him.

2275
03:27:32,640 --> 03:27:33,560
And that went very well.

2276
03:27:33,720 --> 03:27:40,100
And also a lunch at Mr. Michael Cannon's home.

2277
03:27:40,100 --> 03:27:44,420
And business, it was really a terrific day and a terrific meeting.

2278
03:27:45,600 --> 03:27:52,300
Also of course, Valley Water Meeting, many occupations, and just seems like I have meetings

2279
03:27:52,300 --> 03:27:54,240
more than I have a life.

2280
03:27:55,620 --> 03:27:57,880
But it's all good, but it's all good.

2281
03:27:58,140 --> 03:27:58,940
It's all good.

2282
03:27:58,940 --> 03:27:58,960
It's all good.

2283
03:27:59,620 --> 03:27:59,660
Yeah.

2284
03:28:00,480 --> 03:28:01,360
Director Astramar.

2285
03:28:01,360 --> 03:28:03,600
I think we all have that same experience.

2286
03:28:04,160 --> 03:28:05,180
And I don't all of us.

2287
03:28:05,200 --> 03:28:08,280
So I had a recycled committee meeting,

2288
03:28:08,280 --> 03:28:20,440
with the CEO, the general council, also the Rutheran Table, with the board members of Ola and also

2289
03:28:20,440 --> 03:28:21,900
a supervisor Cindy.

2290
03:28:22,420 --> 03:28:22,980
Chavez.

2291
03:28:25,180 --> 03:28:33,620
My report, since our last board meeting, I attended the career pathway meeting,

2292
03:28:36,000 --> 03:28:36,660
the San Francisco

2293
03:28:36,660 --> 03:28:46,740
a JPA meeting, also that the landscape, committee meeting, special board meeting on diversity

2294
03:28:46,740 --> 03:28:49,500
training and

2295
03:28:52,380 --> 03:29:04,620
the briefing with staff on the upcoming DC trip and that's it.

2296
03:29:08,420 --> 03:29:11,740
Thank you Madam Chair for seeing like you and I and Rick has met every day.

2297
03:29:11,740 --> 03:29:18,160
It's been educational and we're up for the challenges, like Tony said I've met with Ola.

2298
03:29:18,220 --> 03:29:22,860
Probably had about 15 minutes, I just mentioned a few various community last night on last

2299
03:29:22,860 --> 03:29:27,480
gaping great committee and of course the Sunningville and House, many important issues.

2300
03:29:27,900 --> 03:29:32,420
A lot of agencies are all working together to try to not just solve but try to do the best

2301
03:29:32,420 --> 03:29:36,620
weekend, which is a very difficult time, of course diversity, training, thank you.

2302
03:29:36,620 --> 03:29:44,740
Director Eisenberg. Well, as y'all know, you removed me from all my committees and JPAs and I didn't have a lot to start with.

2303
03:29:45,380 --> 03:29:49,840
So I did observe all the meetings that I could.

2304
03:29:50,440 --> 03:29:56,680
And I learned a lot and also I attended in person the San Frisquito Creek JPA.

2305
03:29:57,100 --> 03:29:59,980
And although Valleywater threw me, I had served it.

2306
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:09,720
Vice chair of that, JPA. Director Shah was not chosen to be Vice chair, so now we lost the leadership

2307
03:30:09,720 --> 03:30:17,520
role on that JPA. So, and we'll probably lose the chair shift that I was on track to get

2308
03:30:17,520 --> 03:30:23,220
through next year, but I'm sure you believe you acted with good intentions. So, that's it.

2309
03:30:23,220 --> 03:30:26,220
Okay, thank you, Director Bell.

2310
03:30:28,200 --> 03:30:34,040
Last week I took the Delta condensed tour during a rainy day.

2311
03:30:34,160 --> 03:30:38,660
I went to spend the whole day there, run around the Delta looking at the project

2312
03:30:38,660 --> 03:30:41,300
and talking to the staff, they did a great job.

2313
03:30:41,420 --> 03:30:47,620
They have a presentation, I'll give copies to anybody that would like to copy.

2314
03:30:47,620 --> 03:30:55,580
I had two Latino meetings, I'm on the Finance Committee, which does the budget, and we proved

2315
03:30:55,580 --> 03:30:58,500
that, and then the last lap come in and we proved the budget.

2316
03:31:00,100 --> 03:31:12,040
I did my diversity training with my colleagues that was important and communicated with

2317
03:31:12,040 --> 03:31:23,280
I had meeting with Councilman Peter Ortiz at his request to talk about a number of issues

2318
03:31:23,780 --> 03:31:28,660
and talk to different

2319
03:31:31,410 --> 03:31:39,510
organizations in Sacramento, including Senator McGuire and Senator

2320
03:31:39,510 --> 03:31:40,610
Cortesi.

2321
03:31:45,060 --> 03:31:54,640
Okay, that's it. Okay, and the next item is click review and clarification on board requests.

2322
03:31:55,340 --> 03:32:03,020
Thank you, Madam Chair. I have one request from Director Keegan to provide it. Excuse me, Director, Director Eisenberg, I correct myself. Sorry.

2323
03:32:03,420 --> 03:32:08,200
To provide a breakdown of all value water funds and which projects have been allocated to each fund.

2324
03:32:08,740 --> 03:32:11,260
I'm, I meant the clean water funds.

2325
03:32:11,260 --> 03:32:15,320
Okay, the basic creep ones. Yeah, and I also asked again for

2326
03:32:16,900 --> 03:32:25,020
For financial information of the impact of interest charges once the with the alone's are starting to be paid back

2327
03:32:25,020 --> 03:32:30,260
Because we keep stopping before those with the alone start to be paid back and

2328
03:32:30,260 --> 03:32:35,420
We need to know how the interest and the principle on those loans will impact

2329
03:32:36,020 --> 03:32:40,660
What are ratepayers are paying and impact our bottom line. Thank you

2330
03:32:41,260 --> 03:32:48,680
And actually, I requested some additional information on the groundwater rate increases.

2331
03:32:49,820 --> 03:33:01,200
Yeah, I think since the public hearing will continue, and then one of the purpose of is for staff to take all of our questions in the comments.

2332
03:33:01,620 --> 03:33:07,700
And then remember in the previous years that they all come back with the answers to our questions.

2333
03:33:08,640 --> 03:33:09,060
Vice Chair?

2334
03:33:09,060 --> 03:33:13,280
Yes, ma'am, one more time for the purification personnel. Thank you.

2335
03:33:13,420 --> 03:33:16,100
This is the, actually, it tastes good. It tastes good.

2336
03:33:18,900 --> 03:33:19,900
16.1.

2337
03:33:20,220 --> 03:33:34,140
Under adjourned, I want to close our meeting today by acknowledging that doing April, communities across the nation come together to honor Arab American heritage,

2338
03:33:34,140 --> 03:33:41,220
Middle Eastern and North African heritage and autism accepted months.

2339
03:33:41,740 --> 03:33:49,820
The heavy water is proud to continue to support inclusion and equity within our workforce and the communities we serve.

2340
03:33:50,560 --> 03:34:00,600
So with that, our next meeting is special meeting in the city of Gioro, a council chamber of April 11, 2024, 7 p.m.

2341
03:34:00,880 --> 03:34:02,780
So we'll see everybody in two days.

2342
03:34:02,780 --> 03:34:03,580
Thank you everybody.