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It's five minutes after 11. We will call the board meeting of February 13 to order a roll call, please.

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Director Vell. Director Eisenberg. Director Estimera.

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Director Tegan.

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Director Santos.

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Chair Swayer.

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Here.

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We have a quorum present.

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Thank you.

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Before the board goes into co-session, there are two sentos that has an announcement.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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I appreciate it very much.

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I met the young lady, one of our employees about a year ago.

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So we're going to farm your meetings and do a different things.

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And we started talking.

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And of course, we honor all our veterans here.

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We do a great job in the district on a yearly basis.

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and our employment with our veterans is very appreciative.

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Anyway, her name is Nadia Webster.

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We started talking and she said, you know, I'm going to...

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Oh, I won't be here.

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I'll blah, blah, blah, blah.

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I've been being called up. I have a critical MOS. I'm a staff sergeant in the Air Force. I'm not going to be called Iraq. So I thought it was going to be for six months and time goes by. Go back to the farm bureau. She walks in. I said, no idea how you're doing. She just surprised me. So what's the permission of the chair and a film of board members. I like to take the time.

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Do the pledges and then honor. Welcome back after you're in Iraq. I'm going to say any more because she has a curfell MOS and she can only say limit to things she's back safely. So I think they introduced our employee or for staff sergeant, not a weapon.

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I'm very happy we have the time.

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We have a party of all ecosystem and so you work so please stay and enjoy me.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and then to the Republic for which his fans.

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What nation.

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I'm the god and invisible.

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With liberty justice for all.

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You're not yet, so that I'm my chair.

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Oh, feel free.

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And thank you.

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Have a few words.

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We appreciate your service, Georgia.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Director Santos and the board and Valley Water for your continue with support.

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It was a really long seven months overseas.

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I was on orders for almost a year for a good part of last year, but I always felt the continuous support of everybody here.

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And that meant the world to me. It's really good to be back whenever I wanted to people and the building everyone's welcoming back and it feels really good.

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So thank you.

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Welcome back.

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Thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you for your strength. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Chair.

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Okay.

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Now the board will go into our closed session that schedule for 11 a.m.

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We will be back at 1 p.m. this afternoon.

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Madam chair.

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Yeah. I just want to further record say that there are no requests from public comment on item 2.1.

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Thank you.

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District Council report on close session and today we'll have our work of the board.

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Ms. King to report on the close session. Thank you Madam Chair. The board met in close session to take

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item 2.1 with all members present, less director Verella, and the board has weighed the attorney

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client close session privileges as to the information contained in the executive summary

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of the investigation into allegations made by Rick calendar, Carlos Arlana, and other employees

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contained in pages 32 to 40 of the executive summary of the investigation, and the January

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2020's 2023 email referenced in the investigation.

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This waiver is for the limited purpose

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of allowing release of the information

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in the executive summary and email

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and does not extend to other information disclosed

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in closed session or subject to the attorney client

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privilege on this or any other matter.

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The executive summary will be included in the agenda packet

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for the February 22nd, 2024 board meeting.

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Thank you, Ms. King. And moving on to item 3.2.

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Item 3.1 is pledge of allegiance.

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The board did a pledge of allegiance before one into the co-session.

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So go directly to item 3.2, which is orders of the day.

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Are there any changes by board members about orders of items on today's agenda?

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Okay, hearing none. Item three.

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Director As for Mera.

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It is a different way.

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Thank you.

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What a request that we re-agenda is 5.5.1.

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Since all the board members in our present today.

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I'll do it at the next board meeting.

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Okay, this is a 5.1 board review of 2024 board committee and board advisory committee.

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So if we continue this to the next board meeting then the assignment to serve on these committees will come after that meeting.

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That will be sometime in March.

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I said, that's, I'll see. Are there any objections? Are there any objections? No, no. Okay. Yeah. I think it was a good

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body. Yeah.

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Is it great? Okay. Good. Got it. Thank you, Chair. I guess I just say that I would like us to begin

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able to begin our work. There's so many things that we're excited to do at least about the

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committee's I'm on. And I hate for additional delay, but of course I see to the majority of

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the board if they want to delay further. What we don't need. What we don't need to turn you those in.

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That's that's correct. Yeah, that's correct. Yeah, that's that that's that that's correct statement.

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Yeah, so in the meantime that if we don't make any changes the existing structure just continues

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Yeah existing assignment just continues. So I did not hear any

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Okay, so so we we were talking about the

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Recommendation the chair vice chair recognition guarding yeah

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Consolidation yeah, yeah, so that's on the five point that's all five point one. Yes, yeah, okay. Thank okay

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Director Eisenberg, do you have the second one?

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Because at least all of my most of my committee meetings were canceled for this month,

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pending a resolution on the re-constitution and the

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Conventional, I guess they actual combination of committees.

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And I'm just a little confused if this, you know.

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Okay, just I don't believe there's any direction or anything from the board to cancel all

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common meeting for this month. If there's nothing to put on the agenda, then the committee does not

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meet. So I think I just want to be clear about that. If there are things to be discussed

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beyond the agenda as a common member, you can always ask for the attitude to have the meeting.

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Okay, because I was pretty sure that the communications sense said that the meetings were being taken off calendar pending the resolution.

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Okay, then we have to clarify. We'll have to clarify.

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Okay, and the meantime. Yeah, that's the things continue. So thank you. Okay.

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Well, that's item,

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we were on item 3.2, okay. Now item 3.3, time open for public comment or any

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item that's not on today's agenda. I do have a request from Mr. Herman Garcia to speak under

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Item 3.3.

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Hey, is I am the founding president of Cheer Coastal Habitat Education and Environmental Restoration.

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And we've been existence for about 22 years and we're an ad hoc committee for about 30 years before that.

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But as cheer as an organization, this past year we took out almost 500,000 pounds of garbage out of our watersheds, we cover over 2,000 square miles of watersheds and over 2,000 miles of streams.

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And a lot of the garbage we took out of the coyote creek and water loop and river jungles this year this past year, but also, in the 22 years of our existence, we have taken out 62 vehicles out of our waterways, over 10,000 tires.

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eight boats, one airplane, one motorcycle, and seven bodies. So we keep busy. We're all volunteer, we're out there every day, and over the decades that we've been working with different boards, and 76 years old. So I've been around a long time working with the various boards here at the water district.

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And I'm always complaining, complaining, complaining, complaining, but today I'm here because I want everybody in this room to give the board a hand.

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For the U.S. Creek Balsa Road Fish Ladder, it was just completed and you guys did an amazing job. I don't think we're going to have to maintenance it three or four times every winter this year, because it was done the right way. And fish are already using it. They started the adult fish, started coming in.

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last week. So, to you guys, thank you, thank you. The existing fish ladder has always been

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a problem and now it's remedy. So, thank you to all of you. Thank you, Ms. Ankel Mr. Garcia.

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I trust in hard coming through and spot committee following them up.

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Great job, great job.

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And also, then, Mr. Garcia, thank you for your service all these years.

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We've always supported of what you did, particularly with the youngsters.

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Yeah, thank you.

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Item 3.4.

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conduct a public hearing to determine the necessity for the Board of Directors to be

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compensated for up to 15 days per calendar months and to consider meeting compensation amount

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for calendar year 2024. So this is a public hearing and the sport will open the public hearing

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that allows for the board to determine the necessity of the board of directors to be compensated

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for up to 15 days per calendar months and to consider compensation amount for calendar year 2024.

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If you would like to provide comments to the board on this item, please use the race hand

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to in the Zoom program, or present a speaker card to the clerk if you're in our board room attending this meeting.

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In accordance with California Wada Code Section 20202, and in compliance with Board Governance Policy, GP 10.6 and District Act Section 33C, the board is holding this public hearing

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to receive public comment on the Board of Directors meeting compensation for up to 15 days per calendar months and to consider compensation amount for calendar year 2024 and I will call speakers in the order of requests received and each speaker will have three minutes to adjust to the board.

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So, is that, do we have any requests or to make comment to this board related to forward this topic?

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Thank you, Madam Chair.

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I have no request at this time.

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Would the board like me to give out a little report on the information pertaining to this item?

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So, without our staff, our staff has a short,

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presentation about this item. So, Ms. King, please go ahead.

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Thank you, Madam Chair. So, as you stated, this is the board's public hearing

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to determine an necessity for the board of directors to be compensated

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for up to 15 days per calendar month and to consider meeting

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compensation amount per calendar year 2024. So, on the January 29, 2024,

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board meeting the board set the public hearing for today to determine

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an necessity for directors to be compensated for up to 15 days per calendar month

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and consider director's compensation for the county or 2024.

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And notice the public hearing is published in newspaper

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a general circulation as well in community newspapers

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throughout Santa Clara County,

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notifying the public of the opportunity

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to provide comment in public hearing if they so choose.

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As you stated, the hearing is held pursuant

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to Santa Clara Valley Water District Act, section 33C,

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government code section 532321,

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and California Water Code sections 2200

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through 2002-07. A little background on setting the monthly meeting limit, AB 1889 by Cabalero

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enacted by the Governor on September 5, 2018, and taking effect on January 1, 2019, amended

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the District Act by adding Section 33C, authorizing the Board to annually adopt a written policy

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describing based on findings supported by substantial evidence, why more than 10 meetings per month,

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but not more than 15 meetings per month are necessary for the effective operation.

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AB-939 Pellerin enacted by the Governor on September 9, 2023 extends the aforementioned previous provisions, excuse me, identified. The determination of whether a director's activities on any specific day are compensable shall be made pursuant to section 5, 3, 2, 3, 0.1 of the government code. So, in accordance with the Board of Policy, GP-10.6.1, a finding could be made based on substantial evidence, including but not limited to the bill.

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following. Many of the water's responsibilities such as water supply,

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fire protection, and environmental stewardship are in other jurisdiction of jurisdictions

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spread across separate governmental entities. These functions require numerous meetings

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since that courses of action based on input from the community and other stakeholders.

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The number and scope of board and committee meetings, public hearings, committee meetings,

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and other meetings, directors must attend to accomplish value water's business are extensive.

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the board has 21 internal and or joint policy committee working groups and the director serve

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on a total of 19 external board and committees for other intergovernmental, regional or public policy entities.

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Valley water is the only water agency in California that is both a state and federal water

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contractor to the state water project and the central valley project.

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Putting valley water at the heart of complex water policy debates in both Sacramento and Washington.

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This is greatly expands the number of meetings necessary to ensure reliable water supplies for

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Santa Clara County as compared to other regions.

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In 2023, the maximum meeting days for a month of directors could be compensated with 15 per

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Ordinance 2301.

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Dear 2023, the Valley Water Board of Directors reported 970 meeting days that were paid

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and 74 that were unpaid because they have seated the maximum number of meeting days

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allowed for the state in month.

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The table was, could the data that was attached to the agenda memo is attachment three.

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So the board could consider the following monthly meeting limits.

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Make a binding based on substantial evidence that there is an operational need to compensate

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directors for up to 15 days per calendar month and set the meeting limit accordingly.

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Effective April 14th, 2024, for calendar year, 2024, or determined there is no operational

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need to compensate directors for more than the current 10 days per county or per California water code.

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The second part of your item is meeting compensation, and California water code section 20202

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authorizes the board to annually consider through public hearing and ordinance adoption process

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compensation increases at a rate not to exceed an amount equal to 5 percent annually. Any board

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approved changes in the director's number of compensate and meetings per month and meeting

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compensation rate will be effective beginning 60 days after date of ordinance adoption,

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pursuant to California Water Coast Section 20204. The board's last compensation adjustment

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was an April of 2023 in accordance with the regulatory process. The board held the public

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caring on February 14, 2023 for public comment on the Director's compensation amount.

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And at that board meeting, the board adopted ordinance 2301, enacting a compensation increase

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of 5% effective April 14th, 2023.

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The board could consider the following monthly compensation options.

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Keep the directors compensation at the current amount of 365, 87 per day of to 10 or 15 days

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per month, as previously determined, reduce the director's compensation to a specific amount

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below the current 365, 87 per month, excuse me, per day of to 10 or 15 days per calendar

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month, or approve an increase of up to 5% in Berkshire's compensation in accordance with

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California water code, 2000 through 20707 for up to 10 or 15 days for Calamans as determined

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by the board to be effective April 14th, 2024. And with that, I turned over to the board for

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discussion and any action. Okay. Thank you, Ms. Kate. Just check one more time that we do not have any

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request to comment to that's four. Thank you madam chair that is correct at this time I have no

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request to speak. Okay then this public hearing is closed. Now it's time for the board members to

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discuss these this item and so if the board has any discussion please go ahead.

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Are there any comments from board member or any discussions from the board?

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If not, can I entertain the motion?

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Is there a second director?

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Just a second, yeah, I have the district council on the wants to speak to us. Did I do anything wrong? No, thank you for having shared. Just as a matter of process, any motion would need to include the appropriate findings for the motion to be.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you. And Director Astramarra.

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Thank you, Madam Chair. I was going to make a point that there's a finding of substantial evidence that

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more than 10 really per month, but not more than 15 mean per month.

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I necessary for the effective operation at this rate.

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So I second that motion.

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Okay. So this motion is only for the number of days per month.

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Yeah, should we do another motion for the motion?

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I thought that the motion included 5% above current compensation.

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I didn't say thank you don't okay. So and I consider that's a second, right? So you made the motion that's a second. Okay.

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And I think the motion is complete and it's a roll call vote. Can we have a roll call vote?

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Director Bel, Director Eisenberg,

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Director Estimera, Director Keegan, Vice Chair Santas,

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Chair Shua. Yes.

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Okay. Motion carries unanimously with Director

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Now we're moving on to consent calendar, this is consent calendar 4.1, 2, 4.4.

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Is the motion to approve?

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Okay.

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I think we need to have a roll call on consent calendar also.

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Director Bell, Director Eisenberg, Director Estimera, Director Keegan, Vice Chair Santas, Chair Shua.

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Okay.

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Thank you, everyone.

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And then we're moving on.

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5.1 as we discussed earlier, the board,

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well, the board agrees to continue item 5.1 to the following board meeting.

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And then now we're on item 5.2 board committee reports.

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We have two reports on one from the Recycle Water Committee and one from the board of the committee.

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Are there any questions from board member related to those two summary reports?

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Okay, hearing none.

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Thank you for the two committees preparing this summary for the board's information.

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Now, we're on item 5.3, consider the recommendation of the board ethics and conduct

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at how committee to set a public hearing within 30 days on whether to censure

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director Rebecca Eisenberg based on alleged misconduct occurring on January 29th.

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So I ask for a public comment and also a board comment. I just want to be very clear that this item is for the board to decide whether to have the public hearing or not.

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if the board decides to have the probability hearing, then the board supports preference to

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have it on the regular board meeting or a special board meeting and more schedule in meeting accordingly.

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So it's not intended to discuss how the issue itself, but then only to set whether to set

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public hearing related to this issue.

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So, and I think the agenda item and with the attachment

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have pretty detailed information related to this

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I like alleged misconduct, I want to ask the

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ethics and conduct at how committee members

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are there anything any comment that the committee member

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wants to provide.

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Okay, Director Keegan.

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I have nothing additional to add, but I wanted to thank you chair for making very clear

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what it is we're supposed to be doing today, so I appreciate that.

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Okay, thank you.

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Okay, any other board member?

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I'm not going to do work.

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I'm going to do work.

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I'm going to do work.

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Thank you, Madam Chair. Just on behalf of the committee, I chair as not present today. I just wanted to mention that the

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The recommendation from the committee is based on the attachments, the memorandums that are attached.

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And as you mentioned, the one question for us is whether we should have said as public hearing.

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I would move that we have this public hearing.

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Okay. Okay. Okay. We do have a public requesting to speak on this item. And also that I have director Eisenberg, as the next one to request to speak, director Eisenberg come to you first.

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Does it work? Okay.

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Yeah, I just want to point out that I do not believe that this Ethics Committee met in compliance with the Brown Act.

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The meeting wasn't noticed and that Ethics Committee is not actually revealed on the website or anywhere else.

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I also believe that in making the decision to lodge this, the investigation against me, that also violated the Brown Act.

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As similarly, the Ethics Committee meeting was not noticed, and the committee members were not

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have not been and still are not publicly disclosed, and maybe in some documents that have since been released, but not in the regular way.

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But more importantly, I want to point out that the Ethics Committee made a decision about, you know, and did refer this issue to the police who called me.

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and they sent an individual who was apparently a private detective dressed as a valley water employee

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who was pretending to be a processor to my house late at night and that was really disruptive to my

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family and woke up my kids and my daughter is autistic as my colleagues know so that actually

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caused a lot of distress for my family members. You don't mostly because the private detective

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of dressed as a valley water employee who was pretending to be a process server would not stop

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ringing the doorbell for 10 minutes. If anyone knows about autism, these types of noises,

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especially accompanied by two dogs barking, can be not just emotionally, you know, distressful,

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but physically painful. I, I, I, I, to this day, I have no idea why these types of why the district

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keeps doing this type of thing to me. Anyway, what I want to say about that

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investigation, which I first saw when it was delivered to my door, by this

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pretend process server, because again, a server of processes delivering things

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that are that compelling person to appear and court and a process server needs to be

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independent, not wearing the clothing of a, I guess, a party and it's kind of scary

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When someone shows up saying I'm serving you with documents, dressed as, you know, an agency that you work for and it's your job that oversee and they're saying that here are the documents I'm serving you with that in every way signals that

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Valleywater was suing me.

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I'm sorry. I guess I said that this item in front of you consider to remain or not it's not relevant to me. Please allow me to speak chair and I want that this is for the board to decide whether to write and then everything you just said it's more appropriate

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the public hearing. So either board decides, so we have a public hearing the board to have a public hearing.

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I mentioned many times that my own, my own neurological difference ADHD, as I've said many times, means that when I'm interrupted, it actually sets me far back, interrupting me, because my neurology, my neurological difference, which is considered to be an 88.

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disability makes it much harder on me to interrupt me.

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I don't to me. So, hearing to discuss whether or not, as I'm saying,

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please don't interrupt your chair. It's inappropriate.

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As I'm saying, I hearing to discuss whether or not I did something that I never denied based on an investigation of me that did not include me.

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This 20 pages of investigation that the ethics committee relied on.

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interview all sorts of people right there. I am not there. That's in

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verb. And I let me say it one more time. We are not here today to talk

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about how that you let University University report. We're here to discuss the

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board ethics and how to conduct a committee recommendation to the full board to

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set up public hearing. So you don't understand the point I'm getting to. I don't

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me and I'm not getting to it. I understand, but also I have a meeting to conduct. So please

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please, that's and also we have a, I mean, I mean, honestly, God, please, that is big.

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So we have it, we, we, we, we, we, we, anything that's on the agenda needs to be discussed. Anything

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that's not on the agenda, we should provide the appropriate timing and information so everybody can

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have that discussed. Okay, right now, this board gives you some rise. What do you want to say? Yes,

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but can you promise not to interrupt me? I promise not to interrupt you, but can you give me a

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time about three minutes? Four minutes. Four minutes. Michelle, can you start checking the time?

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I am saying that this decision and choice to have a hearing about me impacts me and it impacts my family.

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Having a hearing dedicated to whether or not I did something that I never denied doing is unnecessary.

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Facing that decision on an investigation where the investigator talked to 20 people, but didn't talk to me, is highly unusual, unprofessional, and arguably corrupt.

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have the investigator spoken to me. I would have admitted, taking the pages because I'm entitled to them.

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Any confidentiality they have is confidentiality that belongs to me. Every single page is about me.

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I, you know, I brought it home, which I never denied, and I put it in a locked secure place.

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I learned for the first time that the district found this to be believed that this was theft because I need to repeat I did not take the digital file.

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I took home a printout. I had asked the clerk to print a copy for me. She denied. She said, I don't have time.

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So, fine, she can do it later. But I took all the printouts that I'm entitled to. I never denied it. I left through the front door. No one ever asked me about it.

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And no one asked me for it back.

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The first time I learned that anyone had a problem with it

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was when I read about it in a blog post

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for the Sanders A spotlight,

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which is an organization that the CEO used to sit on the board of

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and that he has given in the past at least $10,000

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of district funds to as a charitable donation.

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That is not really a credible source,

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but that is the first time I heard

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that the district's thought I did anything wrong.

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It estranged me that no one called me up and asked me for them back.

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The defense, the response, the district response to this, is that on Friday, after they already

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alerted the police and the press that I had stolen, what is the word they use, something

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like items of national security, documents, after they alerted the press, then their lawyer

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contacted my lawyer. Now, I am significantly in debt, you know, to my lawyer and expecting

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me to have a paid interaction with my lawyer in order to know that I've supposed to bring

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these documents back is irrational. I was even at the district on Wednesday night and it

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interrupted with lots of people including the CEO and no one told me that they thought he

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should have taken the print out and they wanted it back. This district had so many entities since

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someone to my house, to not take fast for the print out back, but to send me a bunch of documents

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and to scare the living of Jesus out of me and my daughter who's autistic and my dogs

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and my tuna kittens. I mean, there is no reason to do then when this valley water dressed person

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without my house giving me something like could have emailed, that was a time they could have asked me

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back and they didn't. This has been very odd. It's I have never denied taking that

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I have not shared it with anyone. I will never share it with anyone. I haven't even shared it with my lawyer, even though I'm entitled to.

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I haven't looked at it myself because I'm too anxious about it. It's because I'm too afraid. I pray that if I look at it, the police is going to show up and arrest me. I mean, this is a lot of anxiety that is being caused to me.

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So having this hearing about whether or not it did something I don't deny doing is unnecessary.

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It's it's it's cruel.

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It'll do our part of the family.

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I got eight seconds.

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So now we have another two.

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No, no.

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Go.

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It is and I have another four.

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Having a hearing and something I don't deny is unnecessary arbitrary and cruel.

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And I urge my colleagues to not do it since I don't deny taking this print out.

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Thank you.

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Director Estomeran.

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Thank you, Mayor chair.

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Mayor chair, all of each one of the directors here receive a memo from you.

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Expressing exactly what process we're going to use.

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informing us that this was a privilege, confidential process, that each one of us would

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require, were allowed to review the report, under the auspices of the clerk. The clerk

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was to allow us to read the reports, but not take them with us and return them to the clerk.

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In fact, the clerk, each one of us, receive from the clerk the full report, including attachments.

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We were put in a room, a lot of companies room.

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We were allowed to review the reports, and then they were returned to the clerk.

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Consistent with her instructions, each and every single one of us did that, except for that recognize her.

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who removed the reports,

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knowing that she was told not to remove them.

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That actually came out after.

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And in fact, in fact,

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they're not exactly like we usually do where her car was parked.

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I did it. It was closest to the car.

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I didn't interrupt you.

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That means interrupt.

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That means interrupt both of you.

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Yeah, I give Director Eisenberg the same caution that we're talking about, whether to have the public hearing or not.

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And then, I will give.

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Yes, ma'am, I was responding to issues that were raised.

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Secondly, I would like council to explain whether or not the ethics committee appropriately met consistent with the Brown Act.

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Okay. That's a good. That's a good. Yeah. Go ahead. That's not your main to whether or not we should have a hearing. I have no, it's still not your main. I was told that this is not related. So I think that if it was not your main for me. Sure. I don't understand. It's essentially the district council is the person who filed against me. You're not in your own fire. I. I also have another director wants to speak.

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I think that's all Haqq take a step back and then focus on why we're here on what this item.

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Director Bell, what you're going to say is related to that, whether to have a public hearing or not have a public hearing.

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We adopted a rules of order of Rosenberg to understand.

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Yes. And I have to turn this in everybody, a copy of the Rosenberg's Rules of Order. I believe the League of

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Cities publishes a copy that we can get. The Rules of Order described decorum at the meetings in

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erupting with Christ. I don't believe we adopted the Rosenberg. I believe our discussion was that

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It's the our existing board policy is very consistent with that and as far as we follow our existing policy. So definitely I do not believe we did yeah, I do not believe we did yeah, but then we did

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So I decided at the next time and then the board, the board can use it as we move forward. So, and then, I, I just, I'm more time, we're here to talk about whether to have a,

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I'm sure.

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Public hearing or not, which we'll call her.

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Uh-huh.

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Uh-huh.

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Did you just call me?

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Did you?

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Yes, Madam Chair.

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We, as a public comment, then please call for the question.

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We have a motion.

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Time to call for a motion.

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We listen very carefully.

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We have the information in front of me.

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Let's go to work.

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Thank you.

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Uh-huh.

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So, uh,

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that's, I have a public comment, and a great question.

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Yeah. Is that related to whether to have a public hearing or not?

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Can you, can you limit your question or comments to a minute?

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Yes. So even though no one else gets a time in it.

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So I see that there is information redacted from my statement.

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And as you know, California's Public Record Act requires that each

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reduction requires a statement of privilege that applies to each reduction, and

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overwhelm umbrella explanation doesn't constitute reason to redact information, this

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much information pages of my statement from the public purview. Also, I note that this

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board just voted to lift the closed session privilege and the attorney's client privilege

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as to these matters, so that means there is not privilege as to many of these things.

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And finally, as still kind of in in 18 seconds, 17 seconds.

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But finally, to the extent that a lot of these items are confidential,

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I own the confidentiality, and I have the right to wave my own confidential information,

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which I did when I published this. So for this reason, these redactions are inappropriate.

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that they're not in compliance with California law.

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00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,200
They don't, which requires that each redaction has

427
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,900
a specific explanation.

428
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,020
It sites personnel records, which I think

429
00:47:18,020 --> 00:47:21,000
apply in a very less redaction to personal records

430
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:27,400
of the CEO, which are certainly not considered privileged

431
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,340
according to state law.

432
00:47:30,780 --> 00:47:33,600
So to the extent to any of this personnel record

433
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:40,000
have been deleted from the applied to the CEO that was inappropriate to redact it.

434
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:46,800
So I think that the public is entitled to read my statement, and I think that these redactions

435
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:47,440
are inappropriate.

436
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:56,080
Thank you, Director Eisenberg, and I just want to make a clear to the public, or whoever

437
00:47:56,080 --> 00:48:02,480
is listening to the board discussion in this agenda item, they're say legislative paths,

438
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:11,840
text, there's attachment one, attachment two and attachment three. None of these attachment has any redempted

439
00:48:13,620 --> 00:48:19,940
one in those in those of in those attachments. That's because you didn't include my statements

440
00:48:19,940 --> 00:48:25,720
in the attachments. So like I asked you to, so the fact that you didn't include my attachment is

441
00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:31,440
even more evidence that you are not giving me the right to speak that I'm entitled to under state law.

442
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:39,380
So maybe federal law too. Thank you. And then the public deserves. Okay. Mr. Mark Wise.

443
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:46,340
Do you want to make a comment to this board related to either 5.03. Yes, please go there.

444
00:48:47,500 --> 00:48:49,320
And as stage your name and address,

445
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:57,280
are you talking? Good afternoon, board members. Thank you

446
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:02,740
for your service. My name is Mark Wise. I'm a high school basketball coach in Palau at the California

447
00:49:02,740 --> 00:49:09,640
I drove 26 miles to get here today because I'm very concerned about what's going on here.

448
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:16,180
Actually, if you permit me with my two minutes and 44 seconds, a bit of a digression.

449
00:49:16,380 --> 00:49:17,740
I'm holding up a collectible.

450
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:10,840
He was the Heisman Trophy winner, which is the award for the greatest football player in the nation. He played for Stanford University, which is near Palo Alto and near my home.

451
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:17,660
But he also has relevance here in the South Bay because he went to James-Lick High School.

452
00:50:18,500 --> 00:50:23,640
And Mr. Mr. Bell might also be the alumnus of Parenthood.

453
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:24,980
Well, God bless you, sir.

454
00:50:25,740 --> 00:50:35,480
And I'm a football fan, what I'm trying to get to indirectly, if you permit me is that Mr.

455
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,820
Plunkett was both a football hero and a wrestling champion.

456
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:45,000
And by the time he was a senior high school, he's a very famous person.

457
00:50:45,540 --> 00:50:49,760
And he was sort of pride for the whole county in the whole Bay Area.

458
00:50:49,940 --> 00:50:52,620
And eventually, naturally, he won a Super Bowl.

459
00:50:54,860 --> 00:51:01,080
And because I've become involved, I'm an assistant volunteer JV coach for gun high school

460
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:01,740
the Titans.

461
00:51:02,380 --> 00:51:05,140
I've played there years and years ago as well.

462
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:12,660
I've been following sports, and according to a fairly reputable website, Max Preps,

463
00:51:12,940 --> 00:51:16,840
James Lyck, compared to the days of Jim Plunkett is not doing as well.

464
00:51:16,860 --> 00:51:22,240
I don't mean to be shaming James Lyck, but the lowest rate football team, the lowest

465
00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:29,520
basketball team in the entire county. And what I'm getting at is, you know, we really appreciate

466
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:35,180
all the hard work Valley Water does over the years, but you have to, you know, we have to,

467
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:40,360
we the citizens, we the people have to engage and keep track of what goes on here and make sure

468
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:46,880
our water is pure and our floods are, our creeks are safe. And I do call on my fellow citizens

469
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:54,100
the tune in here and, you know, cheer on our elected leaders and our paid staff, but also, you know,

470
00:51:54,100 --> 00:51:58,800
hold them accountable. And what I'm saying here is, I think this is an extreme waste of time,

471
00:51:59,060 --> 00:52:03,740
Rebecca Eisenberg, and a personally, I voted for when Samantha City Council in Palo Alto. I voted

472
00:52:03,740 --> 00:52:09,300
for her and worked on her campaign, I think, when she ran for this seat. I knew Gary, he was my neighbor.

473
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:13,680
I knew Greg's Lotnick, who was both an old old friend, elected to that seat,

474
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,100
I've served in that seat for a few months as well.

475
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:24,180
I really think we should just move on and do things that are a benefit for the taxpayers like myself and the voters like myself

476
00:52:24,180 --> 00:52:25,860
do not waste any more of our time of money.

477
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,120
$600,000, that's disgraceful with due respect.

478
00:52:30,500 --> 00:52:32,880
Thank you for your comment, Mr. Weiss.

479
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:45,560
And I think your point is right on that we should move forward and then our job is to manage

480
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:50,440
water for Santa Clara County and we should really focus on what our job is.

481
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:57,080
So we have a motion and are there any other public comment?

482
00:52:59,300 --> 00:52:59,540
Yes.

483
00:52:59,540 --> 00:53:00,300
Thank you, Madam Chair.

484
00:53:00,460 --> 00:53:03,000
We have a couple of hands raised in online.

485
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:08,140
the first one, I apologize if I mispronounce your name, Dan Steading.

486
00:53:12,220 --> 00:53:16,020
The Mr. Dan, please go ahead.

487
00:53:24,130 --> 00:53:26,950
You're still muted, I think.

488
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:33,160
Through the chair.

489
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:35,640
His audio is not coming through.

490
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,240
Audio is not coming through.

491
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:40,520
From his mic, yes.

492
00:53:40,740 --> 00:53:45,320
Okay, then maybe we'll go to the next one and then come back to Dan.

493
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,500
Dan, I don't know if that's a first name or last name.

494
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,660
Okay, the next hand I have raised is Deborah Goldie.

495
00:53:53,660 --> 00:53:57,100
Ms. Goldie, please go ahead.

496
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,180
Hi, the board of Goldie. I'm Paula with the California.

497
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,280
I'm retired. I have been reading for years,

498
00:54:05,620 --> 00:54:07,380
editorials in the Mercury News.

499
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:14,760
I'm, you know, just a very critical of Santa Clara Valley Water District

500
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:19,880
and how they operate, and it is on my to-do list and retirement to keep a closer eye on y'all.

501
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:28,020
And I don't know whether there should be a public hearing on this or not, but if there is

502
00:54:28,020 --> 00:54:32,940
going to be public hearing on it, I am going to be there, I am going to speak, I am going to speak

503
00:54:32,940 --> 00:54:38,480
in favor of Rebecca Eisenberg, and hopefully I'm going to bring the press with me. Thank you.

504
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,340
Thank you.

505
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,940
Let's go back to Dan.

506
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,940
Chair, he unmuted, we still cannot hear him through his mic.

507
00:55:04,780 --> 00:55:05,460
Okay,

508
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:30,200
if we cannot hear you, that's maybe if you don't mind stay on the Zoom and then trying to figure out what's the problem and we can come back at the end and ask for your feedback.

509
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:37,560
Yeah, there's a good suggestion that you can call us, right?

510
00:55:39,060 --> 00:55:41,660
And then we can hear you.

511
00:55:45,590 --> 00:55:47,690
To see the number to call.

512
00:55:49,230 --> 00:55:49,910
Thank you, Manachari.

513
00:55:50,050 --> 00:55:52,470
It's listed on the agenda, the call number that means.

514
00:55:53,610 --> 00:55:56,330
So can you please try to do that?

515
00:55:57,270 --> 00:56:01,870
And when you're through, then we will call you immediately.

516
00:56:01,870 --> 00:56:03,170
Okay.

517
00:56:12,770 --> 00:56:19,650
We cannot move forward to vote until we hear this public comment.

518
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:28,220
Then through

519
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:44,860
the chair I asked twice to unmute through the zoom option.

520
00:56:45,660 --> 00:56:50,400
It's you are on you are unmuted from our end.

521
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:59,040
Is that is that down so we can hear him right? No, that's not him.

522
00:56:59,580 --> 00:57:04,600
Um, no, through the chair, uh, this is, uh, Walter from, I see department.

523
00:57:05,060 --> 00:57:09,040
We have him unmuted. He is, we're not getting any audio from his site.

524
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:11,400
Okay.

525
00:57:22,180 --> 00:57:24,960
Good chair. Would you like me to, um, call out to Mr.

526
00:57:25,460 --> 00:57:28,720
Stegink about the phone number. He could try calling me a video.

527
00:57:29,060 --> 00:57:34,640
Yeah, because, uh, OAS were stuck in the middle off the side and we, uh, we cannot move forward.

528
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:55,640
You can use the call-in number that's listed on the agenda at 1, 6, 6, 9, 9, 0, 0, 9, 1, 2, 8, and the ID number you want to put in is 8, 4, 4, 5, 4, 5, 4, 5, 1, 5, 5, 9, 7, 5, 5, 5, 5, 9, 7, 5.

529
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:19,620
Do the chair. I think he is actively trying because I just call them at the number I know him to have.

530
00:58:19,620 --> 00:58:25,040
and I heard basically this meeting in the background.

531
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:26,440
So I'm not sure what's happening,

532
00:58:27,260 --> 00:58:27,960
but I think he's trying.

533
00:58:35,690 --> 00:58:35,970
Okay.

534
00:58:35,970 --> 00:58:39,830
He probably, and he's trying to speak this way,

535
00:58:40,270 --> 00:58:42,710
or is, I don't know, I don't think so.

536
00:58:43,030 --> 00:58:43,970
Yeah, because we cannot,

537
00:58:45,490 --> 00:58:47,650
they're asking him for ID.

538
00:58:51,180 --> 00:58:53,240
Oh, then you have to.

539
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,440
Oh, he's providing ID and they can explain

540
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:57,920
what's the technical problem.

541
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:05,190
I'm on mute it. I've used zoom in the last 24 hours. I'm used to probably $100 in

542
00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:10,810
the last year. When I click on that link, I'm happy to have it.

543
00:59:13,690 --> 00:59:16,210
If I hand this to that

544
00:59:16,210 --> 00:59:21,950
IT department, can I can they do it that way? I don't understand what legal prohibition there

545
00:59:21,950 --> 00:59:27,070
is on having somebody who's going to speak on my behalf, speak to this because he couldn't

546
00:59:27,070 --> 00:59:36,530
get through. I'm saying. Okay, if I can, that's, that's, that's, maybe the IT can

547
00:59:36,530 --> 00:59:42,030
figure it out, but in the meantime, I don't think, I don't think it's a good idea for

548
00:59:42,030 --> 00:59:48,730
all of us to sit here and then waiting until this technical difficulty is resolved.

549
00:59:48,730 --> 00:59:59,970
So my proposal is that we will hold this and then hold the item 5.3 and then now I'm moving on to item 7

550
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:09,220
necessary, because it's related to the Ragnar Creek Erosion Repair Project, a resulting from the flooding emergency,

551
01:00:09,820 --> 01:00:16,820
and that project is complete. The board is approved under the consent calendar, so we don't need to

552
01:00:16,820 --> 01:00:27,860
continue this emergency declaration. So that's item 7.1. Okay. I will ask one more time that

553
01:00:27,860 --> 01:00:31,620
Can we can we can we get Mr.

554
01:00:33,020 --> 01:00:33,420
Dent

555
01:00:33,420 --> 01:00:40,160
Sue can can I T or the clerk or someone call him he said he

556
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:53,600
No, there's a rule and can can I can then can you please work it out how we saw our staff and in a meantime

557
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:57,740
I can't work it out with IT because he doesn't have a reach IT

558
01:00:59,150 --> 01:01:02,350
Oh, do you have any advice for us?

559
01:01:02,730 --> 01:01:04,630
Through the chair, I'll explain what the legal requirements are.

560
01:01:04,810 --> 01:01:09,290
The Brown Act requires that it means be available for public comment for people who are in person.

561
01:01:09,850 --> 01:01:15,570
We have added about the board has showed them to add a Zoom option as a courtesy to those who are not able to attend.

562
01:01:15,670 --> 01:01:20,470
No legal requirement to allow anybody to speak via Zoom or through any other format.

563
01:01:20,970 --> 01:01:26,830
So it's a discretion board whether to allow an alternative further alternative means.

564
01:01:26,830 --> 01:01:29,630
I would note that for equity purposes, if it's off,

565
01:01:29,630 --> 01:01:32,230
I'll turn if domains is provided for one person that you should be made available to

566
01:01:32,230 --> 01:01:33,170
an entire fellow.

567
01:01:33,830 --> 01:01:34,370
It's great.

568
01:01:34,570 --> 01:01:36,530
That it made available to everyone.

569
01:01:36,930 --> 01:01:37,430
Why not?

570
01:01:37,550 --> 01:01:38,730
More comments, to better.

571
01:01:39,850 --> 01:01:43,690
Is that the, say we have a.

572
01:01:44,050 --> 01:01:44,450
Do you know related to them?

573
01:01:44,850 --> 01:01:45,990
I don't understand what I think is.

574
01:01:45,990 --> 01:01:46,370
They're eyes in bird.

575
01:01:46,390 --> 01:01:48,750
Please, okay, you are not hearing.

576
01:01:49,150 --> 01:01:49,370
You're.

577
01:01:49,370 --> 01:01:51,450
Well, I don't understand the, that are equal.

578
01:01:51,450 --> 01:01:51,630
Okay.

579
01:01:51,710 --> 01:01:56,310
I shouldn't allow people to speak or not what anonymous march is.

580
01:01:56,310 --> 01:02:11,070
And as a person who's threatening possibly to sue me and nobody is saying that not allowing people to speak, but we have to allowing people to speak to consistent with the ground at requirement.

581
01:02:11,070 --> 01:02:25,750
So if we can take a time and work through that fair down here, I want to add to 8.1 and just say I guess

582
01:02:25,750 --> 01:02:35,430
a warning to our public speaker that either 4.1, he says he's on.

583
01:02:35,430 --> 01:02:48,050
Lancy like leak to be a lancy. So that's okay. Okay, so not point of order. Okay, that's so he is can we hear you. Can you say something? Can we hear you?

584
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:52,520
Can we hear him?

585
01:02:54,480 --> 01:03:05,200
Through the chair. I have unmuted him again twice. Okay, and then and we have nothing. He now unmuted himself, but we still here no audio from him. Okay, then I

586
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:10,160
Mr. Dan, we really need this thing to be worked out.

587
01:03:10,260 --> 01:03:13,420
In the meantime, I will move on to either 8.1.

588
01:03:13,860 --> 01:03:17,860
So, as I said earlier, this can take some time.

589
01:03:18,220 --> 01:03:23,560
It's a lengthy bail-ancy discussion by the board for either 8.1.

590
01:03:23,700 --> 01:03:30,000
So, thank you for your patience and I want to thank our board members for your patience as we're going through this.

591
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:40,560
Item 8.1, receive and update on the particular reservoir expansion project, project number 9195402.

592
01:03:41,820 --> 01:03:51,100
And this, the recommendations to receive the information update on the operations and benefits of particular reservoir expansion project.

593
01:03:51,100 --> 01:03:55,080
And before I ask staff for presentation,

594
01:03:56,520 --> 01:04:02,460
then the purpose of this item is this is the first one

595
01:04:02,460 --> 01:04:08,240
of a slew of topic related to this project

596
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:12,200
that the board actually approved several months ago

597
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:18,440
to come back to the board for the board to have in-depth discussion

598
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:30,200
the understanding of these complex topic and also for opportunity for the public to get engaged

599
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:38,200
through these individual topic, because it's helping all of us to reaching to the decision-making

600
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:45,920
process. So again today, we are not deciding whether to move forward or not move forward on this

601
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:53,900
project. We are starting this topic number one for particular as well project and expecting

602
01:04:53,900 --> 01:04:59,960
further discussions on different topics in the next several months.

603
01:05:00,140 --> 01:05:05,480
So, with that introduction, Ryan, please go ahead.

604
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:11,520
Yes, thank you. Good afternoon, chair and directors and appreciate the introduction from the chair there.

605
01:05:11,580 --> 01:05:15,160
It's exactly what we're doing is providing a presentation here.

606
01:05:15,380 --> 01:05:20,180
It's a multi-presentation format, so this is the first in a series.

607
01:05:20,980 --> 01:05:27,320
And we did come to the board in November of last year presented our different topics that we'd be presenting during the series.

608
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:55,320
And this is the first of that, and we presented this to the water storage explorer committee in December, and planned to bring this to the board in January, however, there's changes in the agenda. So here we are on February 13, not January 23, it's shown there. So I'll go on with the presentation on the operations and benefits of the project. So we've seen this slide many times before in many different ways. And what this really does is summarize the needs that this project can address.

609
01:05:55,840 --> 01:06:07,520
And this is also sort of a breakdown of what this presentation will go through and I will be starting off with the emergency water supply benefit and how the project addresses that need.

610
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:11,380
And then I will pause and we can take questions on that portion of it.

611
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,720
That's the full of it going through the operations and that's slide nine.

612
01:06:14,860 --> 01:06:24,340
I think it will be my last slide and then I'll hand the mic over to the engineering unit manager Julianne O'Brien to go through the other four needs there and go into a little bit more detail

613
01:06:24,340 --> 01:06:26,900
and we can take questions at the end on those as well.

614
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:33,600
So these five needs here, the number one is our emergency water supply.

615
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,340
And that's what we're addressing in the water supply master plan,

616
01:06:36,540 --> 01:06:38,400
but the very critical part of this project is something

617
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:42,240
that value water needs the most out of these and the others are secondary needs,

618
01:06:42,380 --> 01:06:47,660
but also very important, and it makes this a nice opportunity for a multi-benefit project.

619
01:06:50,740 --> 01:06:54,380
So this is going through how the operations work kind of at the grand scale.

620
01:06:54,380 --> 01:07:02,960
So really the way to sum up how the expanded the Chaco reservoir works is there's two inputs of water and two outputs of water.

621
01:07:03,260 --> 01:07:04,780
Really the easiest way to sum it up.

622
01:07:05,340 --> 01:07:11,560
So we received water through a board of water supply from the Delta down through the state water project and CVD aqueducts.

623
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,240
And it comes into the O'Neill 4 bag.

624
01:07:14,380 --> 01:07:22,440
It's pumped up into San Luis Reservoir and stored and then we take it for our use through the Chaco pumping plant that exists right there at the west side of San Luis Reservoir.

625
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,860
And it comes down the hill through the gray line there,

626
01:07:26,020 --> 01:07:29,580
splits off into the Santa Clara conduit and the Hollister conduit,

627
01:07:29,740 --> 01:07:32,340
which go to Santa Clara County in San Benito County,

628
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:33,000
respectively.

629
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:35,540
That's all existing infrastructure.

630
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:37,600
That's how we receive our water now.

631
01:07:38,380 --> 01:07:42,180
So what the Pacheco expansion would include is a new tie-in

632
01:07:42,180 --> 01:07:46,380
to this pipeline that you can see there in the kind of light blue line

633
01:07:46,380 --> 01:07:47,860
showing up and down there.

634
01:07:48,140 --> 01:07:51,700
And we would tie into that existing conduit into the expanded reservoir,

635
01:07:51,700 --> 01:07:57,220
so that we could put water into the reservoir and wet years and take water out of the reservoir

636
01:07:57,220 --> 01:08:01,860
and dry years into our pipeline system that we currently have and bring that board of water supply

637
01:08:01,860 --> 01:08:08,300
into our county and the San Manido could do a very similar thing on a smaller scale based on their

638
01:08:08,300 --> 01:08:15,200
size and supply needs. The other operation that happens here is the other input, which is the natural

639
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:20,720
watershed and with the Pateco Creek, gets from the watershed around it in the rain and collecting

640
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:28,300
water into the expanded reservoir. The existing dam that is there now is much smaller and fills

641
01:08:28,300 --> 01:08:34,840
and spills in moderate wet years, not even in the extreme wet years. So we'd be able to capture

642
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:39,560
a lot more water than currently is able to be captured. And then we would use that water in our

643
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:45,320
other output way, which is releasing water in the Chaco Creek, which would both recharge ground water

644
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:49,820
in the area and the Chaco pass water district to currently owns the dam in their service area,

645
01:08:49,820 --> 01:08:52,140
which is shown there in the darker green.

646
01:08:52,660 --> 01:08:55,020
And then also improving the steel head habitat

647
01:08:55,020 --> 01:08:57,340
and other aquatic species along the Chico Creek,

648
01:08:57,380 --> 01:08:58,880
which does go dry in most years.

649
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,280
So it's a very flashy system currently,

650
01:09:01,540 --> 01:09:04,920
very wet, some winters and very dry to the point

651
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:06,800
where the creek goes completely dry

652
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,900
in portions throughout the summer and early fall.

653
01:09:11,260 --> 01:09:13,460
And then also shown on this graphic here

654
01:09:13,460 --> 01:09:15,440
is the yellow lines on the right side.

655
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,620
That's kind of going through what our refuge deliveries look like.

656
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:09,340
So that happens north of sandless reservoir. So that water doesn't ever actually make its way to us. It's more our portion of our contract water that we use to exchange.

657
01:10:12,440 --> 01:10:22,480
Okay, so this slide was added after we did the water storage exploratory committee presentation and it's really going through the all the numerical modeling. How we looked at all these different operations.

658
01:10:22,480 --> 01:10:36,680
And this is a pretty complex flow chart, but I thought it was good just to see the complexity of it and show how much is really going into all the numbers that we're driving through and the planning of this project and looking at how the operations work.

659
01:10:37,460 --> 01:10:48,580
And there's eight main numerical tools that we use in here and these are the best available tools are used statewide and the same systems that we use for our own value water analysis and planning for our water supply.

660
01:10:48,580 --> 01:10:56,520
And we also got days worth of federal and state resource agency feedback through workshops and meetings with the resource agencies.

661
01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:02,160
On this approach and how we're looking at these different numbers and models and assumptions that we're putting through.

662
01:11:02,780 --> 01:11:12,320
So just to sum it up, essentially what we do is we look at the statewide system and look at the hydrology in the state and the important water deliveries that come year after year in the state.

663
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,740
And then we bring that down into the valley water

664
01:11:14,740 --> 01:11:18,440
at Santa Clara County level and how that would feed into us.

665
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:20,820
And then break the down even further into the Pachico Creek

666
01:11:20,820 --> 01:11:24,260
watershed and the Pachico Creek releases that will happen there

667
01:11:24,260 --> 01:11:26,680
through the Pachico Creek habitat suitability model,

668
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:28,920
which was developed prior to this project,

669
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:32,420
but it's being used and updated as we work through all the details.

670
01:11:33,480 --> 01:11:37,320
So lots of great outputs here on hydrology, water temperature,

671
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:39,960
how much power will take to operate the pump station

672
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,340
to move water in and out of the expanded reservoir.

673
01:11:42,700 --> 01:11:45,900
This is really the basis of how we came up with all these numbers

674
01:11:45,900 --> 01:11:48,540
that we've been using throughout the project there

675
01:11:48,540 --> 01:11:52,380
in our draft EIR and our water storage investment program,

676
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:54,780
feasibility documentation that was submitted in 2021,

677
01:11:55,420 --> 01:11:57,960
and really having really quantify the benefits

678
01:11:57,960 --> 01:11:59,780
that the operations bring for this project.

679
01:12:02,980 --> 01:12:05,520
This is just one output that we get from the modeling,

680
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:09,660
and I think it's useful to show what the reservoir volume

681
01:12:09,660 --> 01:12:13,520
would look like over kind of a virtual period.

682
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:17,520
So what we do is we take the year of storms

683
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,220
from the years of storms from 1922 to 2003,

684
01:12:20,980 --> 01:12:24,140
and look at how those would affect the Pacheco Resort

685
01:12:24,140 --> 01:12:26,900
it was in place in our system with all the data

686
01:12:26,900 --> 01:12:29,240
from the state and all of our value water data

687
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:30,180
that we have now.

688
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:32,880
And just using that virtual kind of rainfall

689
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:37,080
and situational data to look at what the output would be.

690
01:12:37,380 --> 01:12:39,000
So you can see in the 30s,

691
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:44,140
we had a major drought. So that's kind of simulated what a future long extended drought would

692
01:12:44,140 --> 01:12:49,700
look like for the reservoir as well is the late 80s early 90s drought. So kind of shows what

693
01:12:49,700 --> 01:12:55,620
the reservoir would do. And the black line is the total storage. And of course, I'm capping out

694
01:12:55,620 --> 01:13:00,480
at the 140,000 acre beats. So you can see it's full at a lot of times throughout that period.

695
01:13:00,900 --> 01:13:05,820
But also drops down in these extended droughts. And another really good example to point out is the

696
01:13:05,820 --> 01:13:08,980
in 1978, we had almost completely dry year.

697
01:13:09,480 --> 01:13:11,360
So the Chaco Reservoir booths in place

698
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:12,880
would have been called down.

699
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:15,100
But that's using today's demands,

700
01:13:15,580 --> 01:13:19,460
but using the water data from that 83-year period.

701
01:13:20,480 --> 01:13:22,220
The other thing to note on this graphic,

702
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:26,760
which is important is those two inputs that I was talking about.

703
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:28,980
The import water supplies are shown there on top

704
01:13:28,980 --> 01:13:31,460
and the light grayish blue, and on the bottom

705
01:13:31,460 --> 01:13:33,840
is what the natural inflow would bring into the reservoir.

706
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:41,640
So, combining those two water sources and how much of each of those water sources would take up the volume of the water and the reservoir.

707
01:13:45,390 --> 01:13:59,690
Okay, so get into the emergency water supply, need and the benefit of this project brings, I think I mentioned earlier, but there's 45% of our water is imported from the Delta, so that's a major piece of our water supply each and every year.

708
01:13:59,690 --> 01:14:06,010
And there is a 72% chance of a 6.7 or greater magnitude occurring in the Bay Area by 2043.

709
01:14:06,650 --> 01:14:10,090
So that's a lot of scientists have been studying this and talking about this.

710
01:14:10,090 --> 01:14:13,030
And that doesn't include the Delta and Levy system.

711
01:14:13,270 --> 01:14:14,570
That's that includes the Bay Area.

712
01:14:15,110 --> 01:14:19,730
And what could happen if there was a Levy failure or any other kind of pipeline

713
01:14:19,730 --> 01:14:23,090
outage long that import water system before it gets to Santa Clara County,

714
01:14:23,470 --> 01:14:27,210
where we would be able to receive maybe zero water in any given year.

715
01:14:27,210 --> 01:14:33,870
So, that would, the Jacob would really provide a emergency water supply for Valley Water in that kind of event.

716
01:14:34,770 --> 01:14:41,350
And just going through the bullets here with the levee failure, but also in the past 25 years or so,

717
01:14:41,490 --> 01:14:47,270
the other large water agencies around the state, including Metropolitan Water District and San Francisco Public Utilities Commission,

718
01:14:47,370 --> 01:14:51,930
have made huge investments into emergency water supply because they have the same concerns.

719
01:14:51,930 --> 01:14:54,830
They rely heavily on their different,

720
01:14:55,090 --> 01:14:57,130
the respective imported water systems

721
01:14:57,890 --> 01:14:59,750
and in an earthquake or other.

722
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:07,060
The chances are we would have somewhere around this average. I'm just over 100,000 acre feet available, if value

723
01:15:07,060 --> 01:15:12,680
water had full control over the water. This is not considering partners, but two partners as well.

724
01:15:12,900 --> 01:15:17,040
They were part of this, they would have a share of that emergency water supply as well.

725
01:15:17,340 --> 01:15:24,800
And you can see we've modeled Santa Nito County Water District's storage at 10% as the purple color shaded there up on top.

726
01:15:24,980 --> 01:15:28,800
So that kind of shows what they would be using during that same time period.

727
01:15:32,580 --> 01:15:38,900
So, just to put a cap on that emergency water supply, there's a major risk of Delta export

728
01:15:38,900 --> 01:15:43,920
outages, and this reservoir increases our local surface storage capacity by 90 percent.

729
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:47,220
So, almost doubles what we could have in a given year.

730
01:15:47,900 --> 01:15:52,240
So, obviously, a pretty major benefit, and we're looking at it through our water supply,

731
01:15:52,260 --> 01:15:57,700
master plan, pretty carefully, is a, our main water storage option that controlled by

732
01:15:57,700 --> 01:15:58,180
water.

733
01:16:00,770 --> 01:16:07,630
So the project will also enhance water supply through water storage. So this isn't new water supply.

734
01:16:07,950 --> 01:16:13,730
We're not counting on new water from the watershed that we'll be taking and using, although that is an option,

735
01:16:14,090 --> 01:16:21,610
depending on how the rain falls out of the sky, the future that could happen. But we're not counting on that when we analyze these benefits.

736
01:16:21,610 --> 01:16:30,610
We're really trying to keep it separate between what we store from our excess imported water supplies and wet ears and using dry ears is our our water supply function.

737
01:16:31,130 --> 01:16:35,870
But without this additional storage that additional water supply wouldn't be there.

738
01:16:36,570 --> 01:16:47,310
And the way we're modeling it is the Chaco is kind of the last call for water in our we model and how the water supply looks at it. So it doesn't really play into the demand.

739
01:16:47,310 --> 01:16:52,850
there's more than is demanded in our water supply and that's why it doesn't model out like a good

740
01:16:52,850 --> 01:17:00,610
new water supply as it could. So there could be up to 24,000 acre feet available in some years

741
01:17:00,610 --> 01:17:06,110
for water supply to come in, but we think the demands are only around up to 8,000 acre feet for

742
01:17:06,110 --> 01:17:11,590
Pacheco and just a regular annual supply and demand type year. This is not talking about emergencies

743
01:17:11,590 --> 01:17:18,190
vaccinated droughts. This is just in a typical year. So having that additional water supply

744
01:17:18,190 --> 01:17:23,590
available definitely helps us in all of our our goals and booting contribute into our

745
01:17:23,590 --> 01:17:28,690
groundwater management goals and preventing subsidence and overdrafting of our groundwater system.

746
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:35,180
And now we'll pass it over to Juliano Bryant to do the rest of the presentation. Unless there's

747
01:17:36,660 --> 01:17:41,540
Okay, we have Director Eisenberg has a question.

748
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:50,380
I'd like to request board members that if you can limit your question to three minutes

749
01:17:50,380 --> 01:17:56,060
and I don't, it's not the intent for you not to ask question.

750
01:17:56,180 --> 01:18:00,540
I just want to make sure that every board member can rotate through

751
01:18:00,540 --> 01:18:06,640
And then, if I'll finish the question, we'll just continue in that sequence so that everybody

752
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:10,120
has the opportunity to ask their questions.

753
01:18:11,700 --> 01:18:17,840
So, Chair, if I might interject, I would like to suggest that we leave the questions until the

754
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:18,660
end of the presentation.

755
01:18:19,440 --> 01:18:19,520
I think I can.

756
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:24,140
My question, I'd directly to Ryan, so in direct response to what you're saying.

757
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:27,720
Ryan, we'll be here throughout the whole item.

758
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:43,720
So the reason for it is, I think that my questions will be going across the different things, and I would like to make sure that we focus on getting the questions that we need answered answered.

759
01:18:44,180 --> 01:18:45,080
I'm like my colleague.

760
01:18:46,140 --> 01:18:49,340
That's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that was my personal statement.

761
01:18:49,380 --> 01:18:54,060
I mean the same in such a, you should that my question may be explained later.

762
01:18:54,540 --> 01:19:01,780
So my question will not be explained later, because it is directly related to what Ryan said can I go ahead and ask you a question.

763
01:19:01,980 --> 01:19:03,300
It is a question. So.

764
01:19:04,580 --> 01:19:09,820
So by the way, as you know, according to our governance rules, the chair does not have the right to limit the speaking.

765
01:19:09,820 --> 01:19:13,080
I mean, I went out with my report.

766
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:15,260
It's a little bit like we're best to you.

767
01:19:15,540 --> 01:19:18,400
Yeah, if it doesn't work, if it doesn't work,

768
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:20,800
I'll ask for the, but then at this point,

769
01:19:21,020 --> 01:19:24,300
it's my request and I hope you please give me back these

770
01:19:24,300 --> 01:19:25,980
with 20, 20 seconds.

771
01:19:26,140 --> 01:19:28,900
This is a little bit nutty and you don't do this to anyone else.

772
01:19:29,380 --> 01:19:30,840
So here's one one question.

773
01:19:30,980 --> 01:19:35,120
Can you go back to the slide where you talked about how this damn

774
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:39,080
wood this reservoir would actually provide protection from earthquakes.

775
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:43,820
So, it's pretty well known

776
01:19:43,820 --> 01:19:52,660
that the the best biggest risk in earthquakes is to imported water. So, what water fills this reservoir

777
01:19:52,660 --> 01:19:58,920
is it imported water? Yes, imported water and water from the watershed. Okay. So,

778
01:19:58,920 --> 01:19:59,240
words.

779
01:19:59,460 --> 01:19:59,640
Yeah.

780
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:08,160
So, imported water will be impacted by an earthquake. So, that means that this reservoir won't

781
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:14,880
is very likely not to receive imported water from an earthquake. So, that is why the met and other

782
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:21,260
water districts, pretty much universally, have decided that local water sources are actually the only way

783
01:20:21,260 --> 01:20:28,800
to earthquake proof. And that is why the met and other water districts are actually investing in water recycling.

784
01:20:29,860 --> 01:20:32,700
and stormwater capture and other technologies.

785
01:20:33,260 --> 01:20:38,720
So given that, first quick resilience wasn't one of the stated purposes of this dam

786
01:20:39,540 --> 01:20:45,420
and reservoir, and that it's actually a stretch to say that this would provide any earthquake

787
01:20:45,420 --> 01:20:46,040
perfection.

788
01:20:47,420 --> 01:20:50,900
Maybe could you consider revising this, this, your statement?

789
01:20:51,700 --> 01:20:53,260
Well, I don't have time actually.

790
01:20:53,440 --> 01:20:54,560
It was because they're going to cut me up.

791
01:20:54,560 --> 01:21:02,600
So another question is that, in this, you say that 8,000 acre feet is pretty much what this

792
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:10,820
that's written out would provide a year. So that is that inclusive of the 35 percent

793
01:21:10,820 --> 01:21:18,680
acre feet that would go to theoretical partners or that offer us. Because the price as a reminder,

794
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:25,560
the cost figure that we give is only 65% of the actual cost to account for 35% contribution

795
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:34,920
by partners that don't exist. So with that same calculation in mind, is that 8,000 in next

796
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:39,180
number, what we would get or a gross number, whatever one would get.

797
01:21:39,940 --> 01:21:42,620
Got to the chair. I can answer both of those questions frequently.

798
01:21:44,700 --> 01:21:50,520
Okay, yes, so yeah. Okay. Okay. So the back to the earthquake, we do consider having the

799
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:56,220
Pacheco Reservoir expansion would be a local water supply that we could call on in that type

800
01:21:56,220 --> 01:22:00,020
of emergency. But you're right, we wouldn't be able to get water there after an earthquake, but the

801
01:22:00,020 --> 01:22:07,140
idea is that we'd get it there before an emergency. And it's there. Yeah, similar to what MWD did

802
01:22:07,140 --> 01:22:08,200
with diamond valley.

803
01:22:08,460 --> 01:22:10,840
So we're talking about 8,000 acre feet.

804
01:22:10,900 --> 01:22:14,380
I don't know, up to up to 24,000.

805
01:22:14,660 --> 01:22:16,280
No, that in an emergency, there's much more

806
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,160
than we'd be needed, right?

807
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:21,300
So that 8,000 is based on our demand.

808
01:22:21,620 --> 01:22:24,200
So what would the maximum amount be?

809
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,120
That's up to 100,000 acre feet if we had.

810
01:22:27,180 --> 01:22:29,140
And so is that for all the participants?

811
01:22:29,340 --> 01:22:31,040
Yes, that's for all that's a gross number.

812
01:22:31,420 --> 01:22:35,260
So given that we give that 65% I'm still asking my question,

813
01:22:35,260 --> 01:22:38,260
given that we give a 65% number as to the cost.

814
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:40,080
What is, so are you actually saying

815
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:42,140
that it'd be more like 65,000?

816
01:22:42,540 --> 01:22:45,420
We're not offering a 65% value on the cost.

817
01:22:45,860 --> 01:22:46,560
The full amount of citizens.

818
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,540
The CFO has the state of here, and he can respond

819
01:22:49,540 --> 01:22:53,660
that in the board voted to add that 2.78 is actually

820
01:22:53,660 --> 01:22:55,900
net of 35% contribution.

821
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:57,940
Are you saying that that's no longer the case?

822
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:01,740
I believe that's the financing model, not the total project

823
01:23:01,740 --> 01:23:02,100
costs.

824
01:23:02,300 --> 01:23:05,040
OK, so the total project costs

825
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:11,440
advertising the CIP is actually lower than 2.78. So again, I'm going to point out the inconsistency

826
01:23:11,440 --> 01:23:20,100
in claiming a cost of 65%, but claiming a benefit of 100%. That is a huge inconsistency.

827
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:24,800
I disagree that there's an inconsistency. Okay, I recognize that you disagree.

828
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:40,480
Okay. Okay, that's, that's, that's, let's move on. Okay. And I think Director Kiegas,

829
01:23:41,380 --> 01:23:48,120
suggestion earlier, make sense for all more members that we will finish the presentation

830
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:54,380
and then not take turn to ask questions. And my request to everybody is to give other more

831
01:23:54,380 --> 01:23:56,400
a chance to ask questions.

832
01:23:57,680 --> 01:23:58,180
Q&A.

833
01:23:58,760 --> 01:23:59,140
Go ahead.

834
01:23:59,300 --> 01:23:59,720
Good afternoon.

835
01:24:00,500 --> 01:24:01,620
Ms. Ryan mentioned earlier.

836
01:24:01,780 --> 01:24:04,420
I'm Juliano Bryant, the engineering unit manager overseeing the

837
01:24:04,420 --> 01:24:05,240
Particle Project.

838
01:24:05,980 --> 01:24:10,600
And I'm taking over on the San Luis Reservoir low-point

839
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:11,620
water quality issues.

840
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:17,660
So the need here is the fact that the upper intakes,

841
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:21,780
which are the intakes that value water uses to remove water from

842
01:24:21,780 --> 01:24:26,880
stimulus reservoir are much higher than the other

843
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:11,540
Or the water receives beyond that level. Or the algae blue is in that area in the screen, here impacting the taste and quality of the water.

844
01:25:11,540 --> 01:25:20,460
odor and taste, if the water that we take from the reservoir, excuse me, and provide to our

845
01:25:22,380 --> 01:25:31,420
resellers. And so what we will, how to take a walk with that is personally,

846
01:25:35,140 --> 01:26:01,400
And so how we will use Pacheco to help with that issue is during the cooler months before the algae bloom occurs, or when the reservoir levels are higher, we will move water from San Luis into Pacheco to have in Pacheco to then use during the warmer months when there's the issues with San Luis.

847
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:06,660
or to blend with that water in San Luis to combat those concerns.

848
01:26:09,630 --> 01:26:11,570
And so this would prevent 63

849
01:26:11,570 --> 01:26:17,150
months of impaired water quality deliveries based on the analysis period that we looked at,

850
01:26:17,210 --> 01:26:28,430
which was a 97% reduction by delivering the supplies earlier in season and capturing the water

851
01:26:28,430 --> 01:26:41,110
source and kind of for perspective going back to this slide, that's this one. They intake

852
01:26:41,110 --> 01:26:48,330
level elevation is 376 feet and the current reservoir levels today are 482 feet. So you can see

853
01:26:48,330 --> 01:26:56,330
in February, the reservoir levels are much higher than the intake levels but later in the year they

854
01:26:56,330 --> 01:26:57,410
changes.

855
01:27:05,820 --> 01:27:11,620
And then while the Chaco itself may still have,

856
01:27:11,660 --> 01:27:16,520
it may end up having some of the same concerns with algae levels in the reservoir,

857
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:23,620
the design of the reservoir is such that the intake levels will be much lower

858
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:27,320
and so well below whatever algae may grow in the Chaco,

859
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:31,940
as well as the shape of the reservoir itself is much deeper.

860
01:27:32,700 --> 01:27:34,720
And so the water will stay cooler,

861
01:27:34,900 --> 01:27:36,680
which will benefit the fish with you talk about later,

862
01:27:37,060 --> 01:27:40,500
as well as make it less conducive for algae to grow.

863
01:27:43,980 --> 01:27:46,140
So, bring us to the fish, the steelhead.

864
01:27:47,100 --> 01:27:49,520
So, this picture is native in non-native feed,

865
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:51,580
fish, and you're one at Avenue.

866
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:55,600
And the need is there was a 90% decline

867
01:27:55,600 --> 01:28:02,320
of steel head in Paharao from between the 1960s to the 1980s, partially has

868
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:06,560
but shape of creek dries out during the summer months. There's insufficient flow. And then when

869
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:13,820
there is water, it is much elevated in temperatures, which is not conducive for the fish.

870
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:27,400
And so the red line here shows the typical releases on a monthly basis throughout a year of

871
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:36,540
go without a project. As things are, if the current reservoir was not restricted in flow right now,

872
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:43,060
the valve is continuing to open, they're all allowed to store water there. And the blue line

873
01:28:43,060 --> 01:28:51,780
shows what the proposed releases would be with the project. As you can see, there's in much higher

874
01:28:52,780 --> 01:29:00,900
I love it, excuse me, releases throughout the year and it's much more consistent throughout the year than currently.

875
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:23,430
And so, the project will support the federal release right into your head recovery by making, by improving the habitat and making it more conducive for the fish to survive in the, in the creek.

876
01:29:23,430 --> 01:29:28,990
And the flow regime that we developed was through a series of workshops including

877
01:29:30,170 --> 01:29:32,910
NIMS, CDFW and other regulatory and project partners.

878
01:29:33,730 --> 01:29:39,770
And the models and results that we came up with were reviewed by the California Work Commission and CDFW

879
01:29:39,770 --> 01:29:42,990
Ryan had showed the flow chart on a lot of that earlier.

880
01:29:44,490 --> 01:29:48,070
And providing you around flow into measure benefits, make the creek.

881
01:29:48,110 --> 01:29:50,870
We'll make the creek more conducive to

882
01:29:50,870 --> 01:29:59,770
We have a, we work in this habitat for recovery and we, the cohorts for will be increased between.

883
01:30:00,940 --> 01:30:14,840
And so, as part of the water storage infrastructure, there's a requirement to help collectively reduce this issue.

884
01:30:15,260 --> 01:30:27,520
And so, a take-a would contribute to that by diverting up to 2008 for wetlands in below normal water years.

885
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:34,380
And so this combined with similar contributions from other projects would help increase

886
01:30:34,380 --> 01:30:48,180
what food supply from migrating Pacific, lie away waterfall, foul and other species

887
01:30:48,180 --> 01:30:50,300
that are in the wetlands.

888
01:30:51,060 --> 01:30:57,600
And then for an idea of the impact between 2012 and 2022, there were three below normal

889
01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:03,620
years that would have received a total of 6,000 acre feet from the Chaco if it's part of

890
01:31:03,620 --> 01:31:09,460
a minute place. And so this would be done via exchanges as Ryan mentioned earlier, so the water

891
01:31:09,460 --> 01:31:14,080
would from our CBP water would divert to this before we would get to the Chaco.

892
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:28,580
And then the communities downstream of the reservoir have received extensive flooding, even for

893
01:31:28,580 --> 01:31:35,880
frequent small events last year, there was some significant flooding in January, and then also in 2017,

894
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:42,220
there was some significant flooding as well. And while this project is not planned to be operated

895
01:31:42,220 --> 01:31:49,080
for flood control, it will provide some incidental flood control just by by existing and being a much

896
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:58,560
larger reservoir that will reduce the peak flows by having a much larger space for the

897
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:07,720
water to get both who before it, get downstream and based on our modeling, we expect that we can reduce

898
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:14,680
the peak flows by up to 46% in the Chaco Creek. That's only one portion of it, but it would still

899
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:18,420
be a incidental benefit to the people downstream.

900
01:32:21,900 --> 01:32:22,000
I

901
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:29,440
think that's all of the

902
01:32:29,440 --> 01:32:30,760
Thank you, Julian.

903
01:32:31,440 --> 01:32:33,120
And then I'll award questions.

904
01:32:33,540 --> 01:32:35,220
Who will start with the Director Kegan?

905
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:40,040
Thank you, Churchway.

906
01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:42,920
And thank you, staff, for the presentation.

907
01:32:43,780 --> 01:32:46,740
So I think I want to start out with sort of more

908
01:32:46,740 --> 01:32:48,760
global questions and comments.

909
01:32:49,860 --> 01:32:51,700
And I think Mr. McCartor is going to have

910
01:32:51,700 --> 01:32:54,400
to answer some of these questions.

911
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:58,860
I'll just start out by saying, I kind of feel a little bit

912
01:32:58,860 --> 01:33:09,390
deja vu with Anderson. I think it's an organization. We tend to have, we tend to identify

913
01:33:09,970 --> 01:33:19,110
what's the project we want to do and not necessarily look into deviating from that or

914
01:33:19,110 --> 01:33:25,430
or seriously considering other options. I realize that's just a philosophical comment so I don't

915
01:33:25,430 --> 01:33:33,030
respect staff to respond to that, but it does concern me because I think I look at Anderson

916
01:33:33,030 --> 01:33:38,990
and I think, yes, we face the challenging regulatory environment, but there's things that

917
01:33:38,990 --> 01:33:47,590
could have been done with poor sight like, for example, having it not be a, having decoupled

918
01:33:47,590 --> 01:33:55,290
from Burke many years ago when we were first planning to do the project. So one of the issues

919
01:33:55,290 --> 01:34:01,650
that I have with this is I feel like there's a lack of specificity, Rita Norton, who was formerly

920
01:34:01,650 --> 01:34:04,970
the head of Environmental Services for the City of San Jose.

921
01:34:05,330 --> 01:34:20,730
She has the first comment that was submitted today and she suggested that this looks more

922
01:34:20,730 --> 01:34:40,730
Like an advocacy kind of report for the project rather than perhaps a more realistic one that may be identifying some of the concerns and some of the issues and some of the challenges that we need facing and I have a tendency to agree with her.

923
01:34:40,730 --> 01:34:44,250
I also think the serial club brought up a number of good points.

924
01:34:45,070 --> 01:34:53,690
My first question is going to be, and I realize staff will probably not be able to identify

925
01:34:53,690 --> 01:34:59,970
this, um, absolutely, but I want to know how much money are we-

926
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:05,660
We're going to be expanding on a monthly basis on fake shakeout. Like for example, in the upcoming year,

927
01:35:05,860 --> 01:35:09,980
how much money do we anticipate spending? Because I think it's a lot.

928
01:35:11,580 --> 01:35:15,600
Yeah, I don't have that number off the top of my head. I do know that in previous presentation,

929
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:20,680
where we had the timeline, we did have that marked out.

930
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:22,700
and maybe we will offer.

931
01:35:23,660 --> 01:35:27,160
Yeah, if I had to take a guess, I think it's around 20 million

932
01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:30,800
on average per year in planning and design

933
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:33,360
environmental pervading efforts.

934
01:35:35,540 --> 01:35:41,080
So between one and a half and two million a month to move forward with this.

935
01:35:41,380 --> 01:35:43,380
Okay, thank you for that answer.

936
01:35:43,380 --> 01:35:53,420
Um, we have got, um, with the alums, uh, for Patreco. Um, did we disclose the fact that we're

937
01:35:53,420 --> 01:35:58,720
going to have an impact on a park as part of this project in our low in application?

938
01:35:59,660 --> 01:36:02,660
Did we, did we disclose the excuse to repeat the question?

939
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:05,660
We're going to be impacting a state park, correct?

940
01:36:06,460 --> 01:36:07,280
As part of the project?

941
01:36:07,500 --> 01:36:07,680
Correct.

942
01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:10,360
Did we disclose that on our WIFI applications?

943
01:36:11,180 --> 01:36:25,800
I'm not sure if it was explicitly in the application, but as an attachment, the draft EIR and all the different components in the impacts were included for the review and there was actually a NEPA review associated with the with the alums.

944
01:36:26,660 --> 01:36:28,020
So that was disclosed.

945
01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:36,160
I don't know if it was the environmental document. There's a lot of things in environmental document. I mean, how many pages did that run to?

946
01:36:36,160 --> 01:37:05,160
of 2000 or so. So sometimes it's hard to separate the week from the shaft. The reason that I'm sensitive to that and I know we're dealing with a different situation, but certainly the federal highway administration and the requirements of section for where they're quite tough on effects on Parklands and I have to think that we should be aware of the fact that people that don't like this project are going to be looking for any opportunity.

947
01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:09,800
to raise those kinds of issues.

948
01:37:12,140 --> 01:37:17,300
I think at this point, I would like to go through the slides.

949
01:37:20,470 --> 01:37:27,330
Sorry, I'm having to pull up various things here.

950
01:37:28,790 --> 01:37:30,870
Okay, so if we,

951
01:37:35,860 --> 01:37:41,260
if we go to the emergency water supply slide,

952
01:37:41,260 --> 01:37:49,140
We talk about the chance of an earthquake in the Delta and that's something that I've been

953
01:37:49,140 --> 01:37:58,280
concerned about for a long time. That's why I felt it was appropriate for this agency to be looking

954
01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:05,480
at participation in the Delta Finance project given the significant impacts that we would see

955
01:38:05,480 --> 01:38:17,880
with an earthquake. So one of my questions here is how long would our water supply

956
01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:27,180
in Patreco Dam last and what I've heard is optimistically it would take about two years to recover

957
01:38:27,180 --> 01:38:35,460
from a seismic event in the Delta. So have we done any sort of analysis in terms of if it

958
01:38:35,460 --> 01:38:41,800
was low water in the dam versus sort of the average in the dam.

959
01:38:42,180 --> 01:38:44,420
How long would that water supply last since?

960
01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:50,500
So when we monetize the emergency water supply benefit,

961
01:38:50,540 --> 01:38:52,060
as part of the WCIP documentation,

962
01:38:52,260 --> 01:38:54,140
we didn't look at different scenarios

963
01:38:54,140 --> 01:38:56,360
and what an average of the bike and how long.

964
01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:59,660
And it all really depends on when that emergency

965
01:39:00,260 --> 01:39:02,280
or situation happened right now

966
01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:03,500
much water was in the reservoir.

967
01:39:05,220 --> 01:39:13,800
On average, we think that in most circumstances, we can cover an emergency like that for a 12 to 18 month average.

968
01:39:14,660 --> 01:39:17,740
And that's if the reservoir was that capacity.

969
01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:20,580
Yeah, we're above average.

970
01:39:21,320 --> 01:39:21,340
Okay.

971
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:30,500
What about if it was one of those significant valleys in terms of, as you're showing up?

972
01:39:30,500 --> 01:39:32,080
extended route, if there was emergency,

973
01:39:32,480 --> 01:39:34,900
there wouldn't be a lot of emergency supply available.

974
01:39:35,120 --> 01:39:37,100
So that would be a pretty unfortunate timing.

975
01:39:38,260 --> 01:39:40,040
So if it was an earthquake,

976
01:39:40,180 --> 01:39:42,280
and it route simultaneously,

977
01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:19,360
Relates to long-term storage of the expanded reservoir. And it kind of fits in with what you are already saying. But I think it's simplistic to say that we can count on the average storage.

978
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:24,700
I mean, I think maybe we need to do some sort of simulation to be able to see under varying conditions

979
01:40:24,700 --> 01:40:31,800
how much water capacity we would actually have because that helps us figure out what's the real benefit, right?

980
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:37,120
And that's something I think that we're looking at.

981
01:40:40,260 --> 01:40:44,340
The project enhances water supply. That's fine.

982
01:40:44,340 --> 01:40:57,340
If we look at slide 9, the project will enhance water supply, the next one, the next one, the next one, nine, yes.

983
01:40:58,080 --> 01:40:58,280
Okay,

984
01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:08,180
so it says that it will reduce drought risk to M&I and agricultural water users.

985
01:41:08,180 --> 01:41:22,740
You know, as I represent probably the most urbanized because it's the smallest district of all the districts in the county and and we pay a lot more for water than South County does.

986
01:41:22,900 --> 01:41:34,820
And so what I see here is that there's a benefit to agricultural water users, but who's going to be paying the biggest proportion of this project and and you may not have an answer to that right now.

987
01:41:34,820 --> 01:41:38,260
But I'd like to see something so I could respond to my constituents,

988
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:40,200
because they're going to be asking me that question.

989
01:41:40,900 --> 01:41:43,560
I think there's a breakdown in the agenda memo.

990
01:41:43,740 --> 01:41:47,020
If not, this one, some of the others that shows each water zone

991
01:41:47,020 --> 01:41:49,740
and what the percentage applied to the project is.

992
01:41:49,820 --> 01:41:54,200
I think we need to be more explicit about that because if we're saying it's

993
01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:59,560
going to enhance water supply and it's providing a greater benefit to one

994
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:05,740
part of the county than another, and yet they're painless, I think we need not just that

995
01:42:05,740 --> 01:42:11,700
we're listing how the cost gets split, but I think we need to really showcase that.

996
01:42:11,900 --> 01:42:18,660
I think, you know, the benefit really is kind of overall across the whole groundwater management

997
01:42:18,660 --> 01:42:24,760
zone because the main thing it can do is recharge groundwater and then supplement other supply

998
01:42:24,760 --> 01:42:29,480
or a treatment plan. So it kind of spreads across all zones. You know, you're right,

999
01:42:29,580 --> 01:42:35,920
I'm probably not equally, but you know, it's multi-basseted. Well, one of the things that I've seen

1000
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:42,140
and I've had some, I don't want to say arguments with Mr. Taylor, our budget director, but

1001
01:42:42,140 --> 01:42:51,280
had some discussions is that I feel like North County pays for buffers to the system, that

1002
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:55,920
that the whole county. And I get that that's something that's difficult to quantify, but I think

1003
01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:59,900
we should at least be making an attempt at that.

1004
01:43:02,220 --> 01:43:10,800
So some of the other issues, I think that the

1005
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:17,880
San Luis water point, I won't, I won't repeat the comments that the Sierra Club have made,

1006
01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:19,640
but I think they bring up good points

1007
01:43:19,640 --> 01:43:23,940
and I would like to see staff identify those answers,

1008
01:43:24,460 --> 01:43:27,960
same thing with 15.

1009
01:43:33,700 --> 01:43:36,260
So, the steel head,

1010
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:42,460
that's something where, again, we hear from the Sierra Club

1011
01:43:42,460 --> 01:43:47,960
that they think that we are overstating that benefit

1012
01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:55,140
and who's verified that 147% increases in cohorts for.

1013
01:43:55,660 --> 01:44:17,060
So again, you may not have a specific answer to it, but I right now, but I think that we need to flesh that out a little bit more and reducing flooding and downstream communities would bring up the issue of that there's been so many floods in prior years.

1014
01:44:18,520 --> 01:44:32,460
You know, the old Anderson dam that we just removed, that provided incidental flood benefits, and we still have flooding, so I think I would like to see quantified.

1015
01:44:33,380 --> 01:44:46,400
If we look at the past and if we look at what would that flooding look like if this dam was in place, I think we're going to claim there's some sort of benefit we should be able to quantify it and that should not be.

1016
01:45:01,240 --> 01:45:06,320
And then lastly, getting back

1017
01:45:08,530 --> 01:45:19,390
to looking at things in a more global way, you know, I'm not sure I'm ready to accept this report, because I feel like there are a lot of unanswered questions.

1018
01:45:20,030 --> 01:45:29,090
And I think in particular, this is sort of painting a glowing picture of the project, which, you know, that's okay.

1019
01:45:29,090 --> 01:45:32,670
We all want to advocate for projects that we think are important.

1020
01:45:33,370 --> 01:45:37,970
I think at the same time, we need to identify what are some of the challenges.

1021
01:45:39,810 --> 01:45:46,610
And I woulder some of the areas where we could run into issues,

1022
01:45:47,070 --> 01:45:53,090
like the potential on this project for litigation when we have people that

1023
01:45:53,630 --> 01:45:56,670
have stated opposition to the project,

1024
01:45:56,670 --> 01:46:01,670
And also have the financial wherewithal to take us to court.

1025
01:46:03,110 --> 01:46:06,750
And then there's just challenges in terms of the regulatory environment.

1026
01:46:07,390 --> 01:46:11,950
There's challenges in terms of the fact that we may be,

1027
01:46:11,950 --> 01:46:17,170
we will be impacting Parklands and what kind of response will we get to that.

1028
01:46:17,630 --> 01:46:23,630
So I just always like to anticipate the worst and then make sure that we have a response

1029
01:46:23,630 --> 01:46:27,630
that would would be able to to deal with that.

1030
01:46:28,250 --> 01:46:34,970
So those so I feel like I need answers to the questions that I've raised,

1031
01:46:35,430 --> 01:46:39,410
that the Sierra Club is raised, that the other commenters have raised.

1032
01:46:39,930 --> 01:46:43,950
Before I'm willing to say, you know, put a stamp on this.

1033
01:46:44,650 --> 01:46:48,830
So I do not think that I want to accept the report at this time.

1034
01:46:49,610 --> 01:46:57,950
If it comes back with some specific answers to the issues that I brought up and others have that could be a different consideration.

1035
01:46:58,570 --> 01:46:59,350
So thank you very much.

1036
01:46:59,490 --> 01:47:01,270
I appreciate it.

1037
01:47:01,350 --> 01:47:01,510
Okay.

1038
01:47:01,770 --> 01:47:02,130
Thank you.

1039
01:47:02,290 --> 01:47:03,930
If you're actually keen for your question.

1040
01:47:04,510 --> 01:47:12,510
One thing I want to clarify is that I don't think the intent of the item is for the board to accept this report.

1041
01:47:12,510 --> 01:47:41,130
Again, we have planned out a member of 607 specific issues related to this complicated project to support the board in reaching a decision or actually helping the board in its decision making process.

1042
01:47:41,130 --> 01:47:47,710
So, it's not like this is the thing, actually, the question that you just asked, that's in their perfect.

1043
01:47:48,530 --> 01:47:51,330
It's the intent of this, the decision.

1044
01:47:51,870 --> 01:47:58,610
So, that staff can take our question and also the public's questions and engagement.

1045
01:47:59,870 --> 01:48:01,710
So, that's how they can come back.

1046
01:48:02,310 --> 01:48:05,730
So, I see this as a, I can force her process.

1047
01:48:06,550 --> 01:48:10,570
Again, it's to help the board so that we don't see one report and say,

1048
01:48:10,570 --> 01:48:12,930
Okay, let's do this or that's not do that.

1049
01:48:13,210 --> 01:48:15,490
So thank you for your comment.

1050
01:48:19,430 --> 01:48:22,710
I have a director, I think Burke, I'll next,

1051
01:48:22,970 --> 01:48:24,330
but since you already asked your question,

1052
01:48:24,450 --> 01:48:26,110
I think I'll ask my question first,

1053
01:48:26,410 --> 01:48:27,610
and then I'll call on you.

1054
01:48:28,950 --> 01:48:33,350
My question is related to the environmental benefit

1055
01:48:35,150 --> 01:48:40,450
that so this requirement from the

1056
01:48:40,570 --> 01:48:50,790
taking a grand money from a prop one to release water to refuge

1057
01:48:51,770 --> 01:49:01,370
in your dryer year up to 2000 acre feet. So that's the water that's our water

1058
01:49:02,230 --> 01:49:09,430
on the contract water for CBP water. It's that water before it reaches several

1059
01:49:09,430 --> 01:49:17,190
rest of all, it will be released to the. So to so basically we're losing 2,000 acre feet on

1060
01:49:17,190 --> 01:49:24,610
that specific year we're losing 2,000 acre feet. Is that am I reading this correctly? Yes,

1061
01:49:24,630 --> 01:49:31,790
that's correct. Yeah, so it's already a dryer year but then because of the dryer we're losing another

1062
01:49:31,790 --> 01:49:38,110
2,000 acre feet. Yeah, the concept is that we would have 2,000 acre feet stored from previous

1063
01:49:38,110 --> 01:49:42,650
what year that we would otherwise just bring in as if it was our normal contract delivery

1064
01:49:42,650 --> 01:49:47,550
through our normal import water. Supplies that makes sense. So we kind of trade what we had in

1065
01:49:47,550 --> 01:49:53,810
the check-up for what we give. So yeah, I understand how to do this. The concept is that

1066
01:49:55,510 --> 01:49:59,970
So the Pachinko Reservoir was served as this...

1067
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:28,820
Or contract water, or our CVP water, to the refuge. Is that good, we're looking at, yeah, I just, I just need to understand these, how dynamics, because it, there's, there's numbers every, every word and I understand that each number represents a, in your agenda memo and Sierra Club raised a question, but each number has a specific scenario attached to as I just want to understand that.

1068
01:50:28,820 --> 01:50:36,000
So, and then it's related to that question, and then in that year, which is the dry year in theory, it should be a dry year.

1069
01:50:36,700 --> 01:50:48,100
And as our understanding at this point, it's still required that we release water to particular creek for the fishery.

1070
01:50:48,100 --> 01:51:11,600
Yeah, okay. So, and so those needs of environmental water is actually more, more needed, in the dry year compared to in the, uh, not, not, not, not trying to hear that is like, is that a way to look at it. Yeah. So, okay.

1071
01:51:12,680 --> 01:51:15,620
Okay, I think that's that's my question.

1072
01:51:17,100 --> 01:51:28,000
I want to say just now that I want to single out, single out, meaning I could weigh that

1073
01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:37,040
Sierra Club's common letter. I appreciate reading the letter that I think you actually

1074
01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:45,380
putting a lot of effort and hours in putting together this common letter because it's very specific

1075
01:51:45,380 --> 01:51:55,500
you as the question, and then we, it's our job to provide the answer or explanation. So I really

1076
01:51:55,500 --> 01:52:03,260
appreciate Sierra Club putting effort to do that. It's not the very high level general advice

1077
01:52:03,260 --> 01:52:08,940
comment that you should be doing recycled water. So I'm doing this back in a comment. So thank you

1078
01:52:08,940 --> 01:52:18,140
much, and I do want to make a request to staff. I think Sierra Clubs was there for a page

1079
01:52:18,140 --> 01:52:26,080
of comment. They deserve a person out in face to face meeting with our staff to discuss

1080
01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:34,180
some of the, the sometimes that I write two sentences in there. It's still not as good as

1081
01:52:34,180 --> 01:52:39,060
and I see somebody in person in a half or two-way dialogue.

1082
01:52:39,720 --> 01:52:42,300
So I'm not trying to add workload to all of you,

1083
01:52:42,440 --> 01:52:45,920
but I think it will be helpful in this overall process.

1084
01:52:46,180 --> 01:52:47,620
That's what we're trying to do.

1085
01:52:48,320 --> 01:52:49,600
We're not making any decision,

1086
01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:52,640
but then hopefully these steps will help us

1087
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:54,000
all make decisions together.

1088
01:52:54,900 --> 01:52:55,800
So would that be a request?

1089
01:52:57,040 --> 01:52:59,940
Okay, now we have director Santos.

1090
01:53:03,400 --> 01:53:07,420
Thank you. Madam Chair, Ryan, Young Lady, excellent presentation.

1091
01:53:10,100 --> 01:53:11,540
I understand the updates

1092
01:53:11,540 --> 01:53:17,240
of so on. Let's go and do want to make a comment when Director Kagan asked on many of those

1093
01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:22,320
questions. I think they are important because it helps me to be more educated and what I'm

1094
01:53:22,320 --> 01:53:27,040
looking at and so on. So I appreciate those comments. And it helps us down the road, whatever

1095
01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:31,880
challenges we have, the more information we get, the better we can overcome, whatever those

1096
01:53:31,880 --> 01:53:36,100
challenge as are. The other issue I have in just a small one, but I think it's it's a major

1097
01:53:36,100 --> 01:53:44,700
contributor right on on Highway 152. That along with the so-called recreation is I remember

1098
01:53:44,700 --> 01:53:49,160
the director of relis, not here today, but I remember the meeting he had with Senator

1099
01:53:49,160 --> 01:53:54,280
Caballero and before that assembly woman. And she talks about the enhancements of recreation

1100
01:53:54,280 --> 01:53:59,860
with this project. So I want to make sure that we touch upon that. Maybe John could bring

1101
01:53:59,860 --> 01:54:04,820
some more information on my just conversations, because that was a plus with speculation.

1102
01:54:05,540 --> 01:54:10,700
The other issue of 152, if that's led to you talking about all kinds of transportation

1103
01:54:10,700 --> 01:54:15,640
issues, the economy, not just to give away both science, the travel, whatever, so I think

1104
01:54:15,640 --> 01:54:18,640
there's more to do in that area of the benefits I believe.

1105
01:54:19,100 --> 01:54:24,000
The other issue is, I was always questioning, why was it built in 1939, and must have been

1106
01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:25,940
for many of the reasons that we're looking at now?

1107
01:54:25,940 --> 01:54:28,260
And I don't know if we ever done the research.

1108
01:54:29,300 --> 01:54:31,940
I understand the depression, but all that water was coming down.

1109
01:54:32,060 --> 01:54:33,460
I must have been flooding that area.

1110
01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:38,180
When FDR said, let's enhance this storage.

1111
01:54:38,860 --> 01:54:40,980
So there's got to be some more history there,

1112
01:54:41,060 --> 01:54:42,260
why it was built in the first place.

1113
01:54:42,640 --> 01:54:45,860
I realize it's below that whole area at the time.

1114
01:54:46,200 --> 01:54:48,940
So there's probably other things we can take a look at.

1115
01:54:50,180 --> 01:54:50,640
Okay.

1116
01:54:53,120 --> 01:54:55,300
Director Esmerdo, do you have a question for staff?

1117
01:54:57,030 --> 01:54:59,970
I don't want to just want to encourage step to it.

1118
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:29,980
Responding as you mentioned, I think it's important for us to also look at the opportunities that we're going to miss. If we don't build this facility. For instance, when we talked about the question of a huge earthquake in the Delta, you know, what would happen if we have it, what would happen if we didn't have it. I think we've got to look at those things. I always say it's not good enough to look at.

1119
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:36,880
what happens if we do something, what we need to look at is also what happens if we don't do something.

1120
01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:39,940
I think it's important to look at both sides of the equation.

1121
01:55:41,340 --> 01:55:44,100
Thank you. Director Bell, do you have question for Steph?

1122
01:55:49,340 --> 01:55:50,420
I have one.

1123
01:55:52,460 --> 01:55:58,760
Can you tell me the names of the organizations or entities that have expressed interest in

1124
01:55:58,760 --> 01:56:02,080
participating in the financing of this facility?

1125
01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:15,520
So, PPWD and San Bernardino County Water District, we have an MOU with San Bernardo, and we have an agreement with PPWD as well.

1126
01:56:15,700 --> 01:56:29,480
We have talked to several other agencies and have had a lot of meetings, especially within the last six months, kind of progressing those partnerships, but they have not yet submitted.

1127
01:56:29,480 --> 01:56:32,240
And who are those people?

1128
01:56:32,740 --> 01:56:35,140
Well, because they haven't yet submitted an MLU,

1129
01:56:35,240 --> 01:56:36,560
we don't have any agreements with them.

1130
01:56:37,560 --> 01:56:40,300
I'm not going to, we're not going to need them at this point.

1131
01:56:40,560 --> 01:56:45,160
But we have had a lot of additional conversations

1132
01:56:45,160 --> 01:56:48,760
and including some follow-up ones

1133
01:56:48,760 --> 01:56:49,960
with some of these agencies.

1134
01:56:50,180 --> 01:56:54,000
So you don't want to give us a list of those?

1135
01:56:54,520 --> 01:56:58,620
And director, about that topic is one of the topics

1136
01:56:58,620 --> 01:57:06,820
that the board approved to come back and following a future discussions on Pacheco.

1137
01:57:07,400 --> 01:57:14,460
So I'm sure at that time that if staff has information, they can share with us, they will.

1138
01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:20,080
But there's also an opportunity for us to talk about is it realistic for where we're assumed

1139
01:57:20,080 --> 01:57:28,260
35% is it's not realistic? If it's not realistic, how do we do that? That was in the plan.

1140
01:57:28,260 --> 01:57:30,880
and how for the board to actually go into detail

1141
01:57:30,880 --> 01:57:33,220
of that insight, correct that.

1142
01:57:33,640 --> 01:57:37,800
And then it's in the next few months,

1143
01:57:38,340 --> 01:57:39,140
a welcome back.

1144
01:57:39,420 --> 01:57:43,080
Yeah, I'm asking for the communications

1145
01:57:43,080 --> 01:57:46,620
that have transpired between the staff,

1146
01:57:46,760 --> 01:57:49,700
board members, other people, expressing interest

1147
01:57:50,480 --> 01:57:53,320
in this particular project and participating

1148
01:57:53,320 --> 01:57:54,960
in the financing of it.

1149
01:57:56,240 --> 01:57:56,560
Yeah.

1150
01:57:56,560 --> 01:58:04,940
Yeah, I have not got an answer, yeah, after asking, I asked this previously so I asked

1151
01:58:04,940 --> 01:58:05,480
it again.

1152
01:58:06,180 --> 01:58:08,860
So you're not giving me the answer, thank you.

1153
01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:18,520
And keep asking this the same question, and that's what has, when Stavis already did, it's

1154
01:58:18,520 --> 01:58:19,740
on the list to come back.

1155
01:58:20,340 --> 01:58:28,180
So I, I just second, I have director giga director, I some book on the loose and director giga

1156
01:58:28,180 --> 01:58:33,340
giga giga in a wait after director, I said book because, very quick follow up, okay.

1157
01:58:34,960 --> 01:58:35,740
So my question.

1158
01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:47,680
Your, how much money has actually been not just MOUs or not just maybe will deal with you

1159
01:58:47,680 --> 01:58:55,640
Has anyone come up with any money is anyone offering to help us out with this almost $2 million a month that we're expanding.

1160
01:58:59,710 --> 01:59:04,110
Just the just the water commission C to be see with the really funding agreement from the recipient.

1161
01:59:05,390 --> 01:59:06,470
Thank you.

1162
01:59:06,950 --> 01:59:07,510
Okay.

1163
01:59:08,810 --> 01:59:09,130
Okay.

1164
01:59:11,460 --> 01:59:12,020
Okay.

1165
01:59:12,280 --> 01:59:14,480
Director Eisenberg and then Director Santos.

1166
01:59:14,600 --> 01:59:15,400
What's taking turn?

1167
01:59:15,600 --> 01:59:15,780
Okay.

1168
01:59:17,300 --> 01:59:18,400
Is it my turn?

1169
01:59:18,980 --> 01:59:19,500
Great.

1170
01:59:19,660 --> 01:59:20,280
Thank you.

1171
01:59:20,860 --> 01:59:21,320
So.

1172
01:59:24,140 --> 01:59:40,720
So what is the deadline for when we're finally going to stop, you know, stop, keep trying to get financial partners, because this has been an open ended thing for how many years seven.

1173
01:59:40,720 --> 01:59:52,260
And we still at per your admission don't have any signed commitments to share, to actually provide material financial contributions.

1174
01:59:52,660 --> 01:59:56,160
What's the deadline after which we are no longer going to keep trying?

1175
01:59:57,060 --> 01:59:59,840
I don't know that we have a specific deadline on the trying.

1176
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:07,320
We do have a timeline for the various steps in the partnership process. We can go through that in more

1177
02:00:07,320 --> 02:00:13,160
depth and we do the partnership presentation. But there's several steps in that process. And we anticipate

1178
02:00:13,160 --> 02:00:25,340
having the process completed in 27 when we go to advertise and award the project. So I think anyone would agree

1179
02:00:25,340 --> 02:00:33,920
with the fact that people are less likely to financially contribute when the price is $1.5 billion,

1180
02:00:34,140 --> 02:00:42,300
which is the price right now. That is the, so backing up as the CFO has multiple times

1181
02:00:42,300 --> 02:00:51,140
clicks, you know, explained that $2.78 billion figure is net as the board voted and decided to

1182
02:00:51,140 --> 02:00:57,680
is net of the 35 percent. Yes, that is what has been represented at time and time again.

1183
02:00:58,260 --> 02:01:06,000
Didn't the CFO show a chart? So can you maybe explain what that chart was? You showed a number that

1184
02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:13,780
was 2.78 and then you provided a number without financial contribution and what was that number?

1185
02:01:14,540 --> 02:01:20,840
Sure, thank you for the question. The total project cost without financing is 2.78 billion.

1186
02:01:20,840 --> 02:01:31,160
without, without, without partnerships. Now, without financing, which is loans, but without the 35%

1187
02:01:31,780 --> 02:01:36,180
partnership. That's the total project cost without financing, 2.78 billion.

1188
02:01:36,320 --> 02:01:42,080
Okay. No partnership consideration at all, total project costs 2.78 billion. So, when you

1189
02:01:42,080 --> 02:01:48,620
had that chart showing 2.78 billion, and then 4.5 billion, what did you mean by that?

1190
02:01:48,620 --> 02:01:54,620
But the chart, I think that you're referring to that I showed back in March of 2023 showed

1191
02:01:54,620 --> 02:02:00,240
a total project cost of 2.78 billion when you add financing costs onto that.

1192
02:02:00,440 --> 02:02:10,000
You would have a total cost net of 1 grant of 5.5 billion if we were to achieve a 35% partnership.

1193
02:02:10,580 --> 02:02:13,200
That net cost would be 3.3 billion.

1194
02:02:13,200 --> 02:02:18,960
3.3 billion with partners, 5.5 billion without partners, including financing.

1195
02:02:21,400 --> 02:02:23,880
So you're saying that financing charges how big?

1196
02:02:25,720 --> 02:02:29,080
The financing cost is 3.2 billion.

1197
02:02:31,560 --> 02:02:35,480
And that is based on how big of a loan?

1198
02:02:38,540 --> 02:02:43,780
That's based on total debt proceeds of about $1.6 billion.

1199
02:02:43,780 --> 02:02:50,880
So you're saying that $1.6 billion would result in a finance charge of how much?

1200
02:02:51,660 --> 02:02:52,600
3.2 billion.

1201
02:02:53,180 --> 02:02:58,460
So you're saying that finance charges will be twice the cost of borrowed capital.

1202
02:02:59,840 --> 02:03:04,780
So in the last year, I believe it was October 31st.

1203
02:03:04,780 --> 02:03:24,620
I remember correctly, the CO signed a loan that the release I was never notified about in the board didn't approve it was based on a earlier general resolution that CO signed a loan agreement to about approximately 93 million dollars.

1204
02:03:25,340 --> 02:03:31,900
And according to your statements, the repayment obligation was approximately 290 million, is that correct?

1205
02:03:32,440 --> 02:03:36,760
Yeah, you're talking about the planning and design loan for WIFIA, which is the board of

1206
02:03:36,760 --> 02:03:36,880
permission.

1207
02:03:36,880 --> 02:03:38,940
I'm going to take that.

1208
02:03:38,940 --> 02:03:44,520
In a six to one vote on December 13th, you voted, no, rest of the board members voted

1209
02:03:44,520 --> 02:03:45,260
yes.

1210
02:03:45,700 --> 02:03:47,860
And it's a 92 million dollar loan.

1211
02:03:47,920 --> 02:03:51,680
Currently projected at a $285 million payback, including principle.

1212
02:03:52,640 --> 02:03:52,840
Okay.

1213
02:03:53,420 --> 02:03:57,540
So, again, I don't recall voting on that particular loan.

1214
02:03:57,540 --> 02:04:00,220
I'm getting no no.

1215
02:04:01,680 --> 02:04:13,060
Are you talking about what's in the agenda?

1216
02:04:13,240 --> 02:04:16,760
There is no, your question.

1217
02:04:17,140 --> 02:04:18,440
We don't have that information.

1218
02:04:19,020 --> 02:04:20,200
We're just hearing these numbers.

1219
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:10,900
And then, as I said earlier, that that's a major topic that's going to come back to the sport for more detailed discussion, when staff has the information.

1220
02:05:11,460 --> 02:05:20,020
We can, at the time, we can tell our staff that your assumption is not feasible, your 35% is not because it's not going to come in.

1221
02:05:20,100 --> 02:05:21,520
I mean, don't think of anything else here.

1222
02:05:21,520 --> 02:05:23,980
I don't have the right to tell me this is a domain.

1223
02:05:24,640 --> 02:05:26,340
My constituents are here about the cost.

1224
02:05:26,720 --> 02:05:29,840
And then I share your constituents' concern.

1225
02:05:29,980 --> 02:05:31,780
My constituents have the same concern.

1226
02:05:31,980 --> 02:05:33,160
I go to the City Council meetings.

1227
02:05:33,720 --> 02:05:35,300
Everybody's asking me the same question.

1228
02:05:35,460 --> 02:05:36,240
Is it too expensive?

1229
02:05:36,880 --> 02:05:42,980
However, we need to have the pretty information in our agenda

1230
02:05:42,980 --> 02:05:45,440
member, and so that we can all discuss

1231
02:05:45,440 --> 02:05:46,960
based on the same information.

1232
02:05:46,960 --> 02:05:47,600
That is.

1233
02:05:47,600 --> 02:05:51,220
So with that, with that, I'm going to try and

1234
02:05:56,560 --> 02:05:59,880
I'm not successful. I'm not successful. You.

1235
02:06:00,020 --> 02:06:00,820
I'm not successful. You. But I'm.

1236
02:06:01,100 --> 02:06:04,440
I'm trying to give that way.

1237
02:06:04,860 --> 02:06:10,940
I finish and I will show you how it's on topic interrupting me and claiming what I'm saying is not on topic.

1238
02:06:11,380 --> 02:06:13,980
Does not enable me to demonstrate you how it's on topic.

1239
02:06:14,320 --> 02:06:16,720
I resent that you don't do that to anybody else.

1240
02:06:16,920 --> 02:06:18,680
It is unfair. It's unprofessional and a violation.

1241
02:06:18,680 --> 02:06:21,380
There's no budget here to what you just did.

1242
02:06:21,780 --> 02:06:23,000
I'm not even answering questions.

1243
02:06:24,060 --> 02:06:29,180
I'm trying to keep this moving forward without my

1244
02:06:29,180 --> 02:06:29,500
contribution.

1245
02:06:29,920 --> 02:06:30,340
I understand.

1246
02:06:31,080 --> 02:06:34,120
So the point I am making, can you have one minute?

1247
02:06:34,520 --> 02:06:36,040
No, no one else had a time limit.

1248
02:06:36,220 --> 02:06:37,240
I don't, I reject.

1249
02:06:37,260 --> 02:06:39,500
But then you're not talking about what you're not.

1250
02:06:39,860 --> 02:06:41,580
And that we get to what's on the agenda.

1251
02:06:41,600 --> 02:06:42,340
Let's take five.

1252
02:06:42,360 --> 02:06:43,000
This is ridiculous.

1253
02:06:43,700 --> 02:06:43,960
No.

1254
02:06:44,780 --> 02:06:45,280
Okay.

1255
02:06:46,080 --> 02:06:46,180
Yeah.

1256
02:06:48,040 --> 02:07:16,160
I don't understand why I'm not allowed to do that. I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to get to my other questions that the public, I'm going to, I'm going to take a vote to take a vote that we limit the discussion to what's on the topic. I think I need to, you are not allowed to explain how this is on the topic and I will explain how it's on the topic.

1257
02:07:20,030 --> 02:07:24,110
But you are assuming that it's not on the top of without letting me make my-

1258
02:07:24,110 --> 02:07:26,690
I haven't heard anything that's not on the top of the top of the top of the top.

1259
02:07:26,710 --> 02:07:29,170
I understand that you don't understand how this is on the topic.

1260
02:07:29,710 --> 02:07:31,990
That has been heard. That doesn't mean it's not on the topic.

1261
02:07:33,090 --> 02:07:36,070
So, I get it. But how much time do you need?

1262
02:07:36,930 --> 02:07:37,890
Five minutes.

1263
02:07:38,130 --> 02:07:38,910
No, that's too long.

1264
02:07:40,150 --> 02:07:41,150
I have other questions.

1265
02:07:42,390 --> 02:07:42,970
Okay, fine.

1266
02:07:43,570 --> 02:07:45,930
I think the public has heard that.

1267
02:07:45,930 --> 02:07:50,290
Okay. So, I believe that, well,

1268
02:07:50,370 --> 02:07:54,950
let me change course because I think the public heard how right now,

1269
02:07:55,050 --> 02:07:58,530
finance classes are running three to one, not two to one,

1270
02:07:58,710 --> 02:08:02,270
but getting back to these benefits that are claimed.

1271
02:08:03,190 --> 02:08:06,470
Have you, have you attached cost figures to any of these benefits?

1272
02:08:10,280 --> 02:08:12,480
For the purpose of this presentation, we have not.

1273
02:08:12,500 --> 02:08:18,600
We have analyzed these benefits in their costs and what their monetized values are.

1274
02:08:18,600 --> 02:08:21,680
in other documentation, which we will present later.

1275
02:08:22,000 --> 02:08:24,700
Oh, so I'd like to make a board director request for later.

1276
02:08:25,320 --> 02:08:28,040
The first request I want to make is,

1277
02:08:28,320 --> 02:08:31,860
I recognize that staff did not have an accurate,

1278
02:08:32,120 --> 02:08:34,220
you know, didn't have available to them and accurate.

1279
02:08:34,220 --> 02:08:37,960
It's bigger about how much money this district has been spending on Pacheco.

1280
02:08:38,880 --> 02:08:45,620
I would like an accounting of exactly how much money this district has been spending on Pacheco.

1281
02:08:45,620 --> 02:08:49,520
I asked for it in legible, easy to understand form.

1282
02:08:50,440 --> 02:08:55,620
I asked for it with reference to what the source of the funds is

1283
02:08:56,660 --> 02:09:00,640
and what the money is being spent on.

1284
02:09:00,900 --> 02:09:04,000
And by that, you can be provided on a monthly basis.

1285
02:09:04,500 --> 02:09:09,040
Since I think the public is not aware of what is currently spent

1286
02:09:09,040 --> 02:09:23,500
And given that we did, was a $93 million loan with a $290 million payback application, this is serious money we're talking about, serious money. And that is going to be, and you can provide that later.

1287
02:09:24,960 --> 02:09:28,300
And, and that was in direct response to something you said.

1288
02:09:29,180 --> 02:09:35,280
I also quickly want to follow up on, you know,

1289
02:09:35,400 --> 02:09:40,020
it's my earlier comment that so much of this is based on the assumption

1290
02:09:40,020 --> 02:09:43,080
that we're going to have 35% funding partners,

1291
02:09:43,880 --> 02:09:48,540
but we have had no success in obtaining any funding partners.

1292
02:09:50,420 --> 02:09:53,400
And for seven years, as the price tag has gone up,

1293
02:09:53,600 --> 02:09:56,700
so I request that I request this at every meeting

1294
02:09:56,700 --> 02:09:59,180
that there be a deadline set.

1295
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:05,640
I propose that that date is June 30th of this year, because this has been going on for too long.

1296
02:10:06,280 --> 02:10:13,360
If it's going to be a different date, I'm happy to consider a different date, but this open undetended golden spigot spending.

1297
02:10:13,880 --> 02:10:27,180
On a project that is unlikely to ever happen because we're not going to get the 35% and we are not able to do it without the 35% under our own resolution.

1298
02:10:27,180 --> 02:10:34,880
and that happened before I joined, it is irresponsible to continue to spending money on this, especially

1299
02:10:34,880 --> 02:10:41,500
when money costs were trying to get before 3 to 1 at a 5% interest rate. And interest rates are now

1300
02:10:41,500 --> 02:10:48,200
7%, which translates more to like a 4 to 1 or 5 to 1 ratio, meaning every million dollars we spend

1301
02:10:48,200 --> 02:11:02,960
now. Yes. Yes. Okay. This is, I, you know, okay, I want to point out, yes, summary, I want to point out that my colleague think that the cost of this is irrelevant, this cost is around.

1302
02:11:03,240 --> 02:11:12,580
I think right, I need to turn off the, I need to turn off the speak to the speaker. Yeah, and you made, you made your request staff got your request.

1303
02:11:12,580 --> 02:11:27,760
When staff comes back, please include those requests as part of the agenda memorandum so that all of us can discuss this and I'm sure you've already considered any of these things, but it's not part of today's agenda.

1304
02:11:27,760 --> 02:11:42,640
So with that, I don't see any, any, but any other board members. Yeah, we still have public comment. Okay. And Mr. David Duper wrote, I

1305
02:11:42,640 --> 02:11:50,460
sorry if I missed pronounce your last name, you said 8.1 and 8.2. Do you want to make two separate

1306
02:11:50,460 --> 02:11:52,340
public comment or just one?

1307
02:11:58,110 --> 02:12:02,030
Thank you. Thank you, Chair David Duper wrote. I would like to make a comment

1308
02:12:02,030 --> 02:12:05,090
I point one and I'll reserve one at a point.

1309
02:12:05,310 --> 02:12:06,770
Yeah, I'll go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead.

1310
02:12:07,530 --> 02:12:08,370
Yeah, thank you.

1311
02:12:08,390 --> 02:12:09,010
Thank you.

1312
02:12:09,930 --> 02:12:10,390
Thank you.

1313
02:12:10,570 --> 02:12:11,490
Yes, I'm David DuPoreal.

1314
02:12:11,650 --> 02:12:16,330
I've been a homeowner and a right pair of voter, a citizen taxpayer.

1315
02:12:17,290 --> 02:12:20,250
I am a customer of Valley Waters since 1987.

1316
02:12:21,470 --> 02:12:25,210
I hope to actually continue in each of those roles for a few more years anyway.

1317
02:12:26,670 --> 02:12:34,810
And I want to thank the staff and the board for paying attention to this important issue,

1318
02:12:35,010 --> 02:12:39,270
but also for all the other good things, the projects that have been done over the years,

1319
02:12:39,410 --> 02:12:41,230
because we have good quality water and scouting.

1320
02:12:42,250 --> 02:12:45,910
I think we've done a good job in investing in infrastructure in smart ways.

1321
02:12:48,590 --> 02:12:55,190
But so far, based on what I've seen and read, I don't think this project qualifies as a good

1322
02:12:55,190 --> 02:13:02,150
investment in our infrastructure. I mean, director, S. Remy, you've said, think about what

1323
02:13:02,150 --> 02:13:08,170
happens if we don't invest in it. You're right. There's costs and there's disadvantages

1324
02:13:08,170 --> 02:13:15,910
not to build this project, absolutely. But what about what about the what we could do with that

1325
02:13:15,910 --> 02:13:21,210
five and a half billion dollars if we didn't invest in this project? We could accomplish many of

1326
02:13:21,210 --> 02:13:28,530
goals and benefits of this project much more efficiently, much more cost effectively than on this

1327
02:13:28,530 --> 02:13:35,010
one project. And I would like, I think that to the points that have been made by some of the

1328
02:13:35,010 --> 02:13:41,430
the directors, let's think about that. What's the opportunity cost of that five and a half billion

1329
02:13:41,430 --> 02:13:47,250
dollars? We could do so much on other projects that would accomplish these different things that this

1330
02:13:47,250 --> 02:13:56,830
One giant out-of-control project are meant or at least predicted to accomplish.

1331
02:14:04,000 --> 02:14:09,180
So, personally, I worked on a lot of big projects in my career.

1332
02:14:11,660 --> 02:14:13,560
I get invested in some of my projects.

1333
02:14:13,940 --> 02:14:15,440
You know, you work on something for months and years.

1334
02:14:15,580 --> 02:14:20,880
You put your heart into it and you want to see it through and you want to see it work.

1335
02:14:20,880 --> 02:14:26,040
you want to see it be successful. You want to persuade everyone that it's right and you want to get it done and you want to

1336
02:14:26,040 --> 02:14:33,900
deliver the benefits that is supposed to deliver it. But also in my career I've had to stop. I've been

1337
02:14:33,900 --> 02:14:40,460
I've had clients to say stop, we're done, you know, and I've been taken off projects that I was in

1338
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:09,920
Invested so much in it. I get it. The board members and staff have put a lot of hard blood sweat and tears and money and their heart and soul into this project.

1339
02:15:10,920 --> 02:15:27,880
But at some point, we need to step back and say, is this really the best use of five and a half billion dollars? Is this really what we want our staff spending all their time on? Is this really what we want the public to view our agency? All about it's negative. It's not positive.

1340
02:15:29,620 --> 02:15:31,660
Let's focus on something that's positive.

1341
02:15:32,600 --> 02:15:33,760
Thank you for your comment.

1342
02:15:34,120 --> 02:15:37,620
Actually, that's exactly why we're doing what we're doing today

1343
02:15:37,620 --> 02:15:39,320
and then in the near future.

1344
02:15:39,940 --> 02:15:45,200
So I hope you continue to engage with us on this future topic.

1345
02:15:46,280 --> 02:15:52,820
I'm going to call on, I think I have a sequence kind of a sequence

1346
02:15:52,820 --> 02:16:07,100
you might hit on the zoom miss voting first and then miss Irvin and then come back to

1347
02:16:07,100 --> 02:16:12,820
Mr. Mark Wise and then go that's always those three first. Miss voting first.

1348
02:16:14,020 --> 02:16:19,400
Hi, the board of Goldine again from Palo Alto. Oh, am I yeah, here we go.

1349
02:16:20,260 --> 02:16:48,180
I read this here at Club Report also and what is I find a little unsettling about this presentation is that the water district has been allowed to take what I don't know 20 minutes of time to give a very thorough detail presentation and the counter to this which is just as thorough and just as detailed and brings up a lot of very serious, very important issues is not been given.

1350
02:16:48,180 --> 02:16:49,680
I haven't been given any time.

1351
02:16:50,300 --> 02:16:52,820
So if you want confidence from the public,

1352
02:16:52,820 --> 02:16:55,380
I think you need to let the CR club come in also

1353
02:16:55,380 --> 02:17:00,740
and say their piece, it sure seems to me like the dam

1354
02:17:01,580 --> 02:17:06,180
is, you know, we have a state attitude towards water

1355
02:17:06,180 --> 02:17:08,640
and water management seems to be, you know,

1356
02:17:08,680 --> 02:17:10,880
we have a hammer, so every problem looks like a nail.

1357
02:17:11,860 --> 02:17:13,620
And, you know, dam building is their solution.

1358
02:17:13,620 --> 02:17:19,580
And it's not the solution, it's just going to cause more problems.

1359
02:17:20,100 --> 02:17:28,980
I, as far as this proposal goes, I think it's very one sided and I would, I don't

1360
02:17:28,980 --> 02:17:32,640
think it's valid for that point because the other side has not been considered.

1361
02:17:33,000 --> 02:17:33,980
Thank you.

1362
02:17:34,820 --> 02:17:35,920
Thank you for your comment.

1363
02:17:35,940 --> 02:17:43,540
I hope you heard my earlier comment about the R.A. clubs and how led or to us that it's

1364
02:17:43,540 --> 02:17:51,400
really seriously appreciate their effort in writing as the letter and staff is going to have a

1365
02:17:51,400 --> 02:17:59,100
sit-on meeting with them to have detailed discussion. So, next one is Ms. Urban.

1366
02:18:06,720 --> 02:18:10,980
Good afternoon, Chair Shua. Members of the board, can you hear me? Yes.

1367
02:18:12,280 --> 02:18:15,340
This is Katia Urban with the Sierra Club Lama Prieta chapter.

1368
02:18:16,320 --> 02:18:21,400
Thank you, Chair Shoe, for asking staff to reach out to the Sierra Club for a meeting.

1369
02:18:22,900 --> 02:18:30,480
We also want to ask the Board to request a written response to our comments with additional information about

1370
02:18:30,480 --> 02:18:32,580
take a reservoir benefits and operations.

1371
02:18:33,840 --> 02:18:40,480
Then everyone can learn more about these topics, rather than having just a closed or meeting with the Sierra Club.

1372
02:18:41,420 --> 02:18:45,860
It's disappointing that this update provides so little new information.

1373
02:18:47,100 --> 02:18:51,940
What we learned about benefits is that a flow-release schedule was developed and will result

1374
02:18:51,940 --> 02:18:58,120
in a 147% increase in the projected steel-head cohort score.

1375
02:18:58,900 --> 02:19:05,040
However, there's no information about what that cohort score means for the Paja Ro watershed

1376
02:19:05,040 --> 02:19:13,720
overall. And what we learned about operations is the protected monthly storage in the reservoir,

1377
02:19:14,040 --> 02:19:20,040
monthly deliveries to and from the reservoir, and the protected mean monthly releases from the

1378
02:19:20,040 --> 02:19:27,640
reservoir, but what we need is what we need to know is how operational decisions will be made.

1379
02:19:29,180 --> 02:19:34,240
We are looking forward to the five upcoming updates about other topics related to

1380
02:19:34,240 --> 02:19:36,280
check a reservoir and we hope they will be

1381
02:19:36,280 --> 02:19:37,920
mediaer than this one.

1382
02:19:39,060 --> 02:19:40,820
It would be very helpful to have a

1383
02:19:40,820 --> 02:19:42,700
proposed schedule for those presentations

1384
02:19:42,700 --> 02:19:44,280
of the board and the public

1385
02:19:44,280 --> 02:19:45,680
know what to expect.

1386
02:19:46,720 --> 02:19:47,960
Thank you for your consideration.

1387
02:19:49,280 --> 02:19:50,380
Okay, thank you for your

1388
02:19:50,380 --> 02:19:50,840
comment.

1389
02:19:52,580 --> 02:19:53,680
Mr. Mark Weiss.

1390
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:29,260
Good afternoon, directors and staff. Thank you for your leadership. Thank you for your service. My name is Mark Wise. I live in Palo Alto. Actually, I spoke earlier at the meeting and that I was very concerned about the fact that the woman I voted for, as my elected Rebecca Eisenberg, in the time that she's been on this board, that you keep throwing obstacles at her sending detectives to her house to ring her doorbell the midnight, accusing her of being meaned.

1391
02:20:29,260 --> 02:20:36,960
men on the staff, all these outrageous obstacles and accusations and harassment, and I've been

1392
02:20:36,960 --> 02:20:41,460
sitting here for three hours before I finally dawned on me that the item that you're discussing

1393
02:20:41,460 --> 02:20:47,500
with Chicago Dam is exactly the thing that distinguished the incumbent Gary Kremens, who was my

1394
02:20:47,500 --> 02:20:52,820
neighbor, and I know Gary fairly well. And Rebecca, and at the time, of course, Gary is for the

1395
02:20:52,820 --> 02:20:57,980
Now Rebecca was against the dam, but at the time they said Gary was supporting the $500 million

1396
02:20:57,980 --> 02:20:58,500
dam.

1397
02:20:59,240 --> 02:21:04,500
So the same dam has tripled in cost in the time that she's been the thorn in your paw.

1398
02:21:04,880 --> 02:21:08,340
And by the time this meeting is over, it's going to double again, come on, let's move on.

1399
02:21:08,520 --> 02:21:14,300
Let's do things that actually helps citizens and not classic or projects, or she said

1400
02:21:14,300 --> 02:21:15,140
the Golden Spigget.

1401
02:21:15,460 --> 02:21:16,220
This is ridiculous.

1402
02:21:17,280 --> 02:21:18,000
Thank you.

1403
02:21:18,820 --> 02:21:18,980
Okay.

1404
02:21:19,660 --> 02:21:25,500
Now, we're going back to the Zoom, Mr. Jim Cole.

1405
02:21:42,400 --> 02:21:45,480
Jim, can you please click the button to unmute your mic?

1406
02:21:47,560 --> 02:21:47,760
Yeah.

1407
02:21:51,890 --> 02:21:53,770
What can I hear you now? Please go ahead.

1408
02:21:56,550 --> 02:21:57,870
Okay, can you hear me now?

1409
02:21:58,190 --> 02:21:59,030
Yes, yes.

1410
02:21:59,090 --> 02:22:00,010
Okay, I'm sorry.

1411
02:22:00,690 --> 02:22:01,430
It's a little confusing.

1412
02:22:03,770 --> 02:22:09,810
I will go back to a theme that I mentioned earlier in the last board meeting on Parttico.

1413
02:22:11,870 --> 02:22:20,090
First of all, as I understand the presentation, they're talking about 8,000 acre-feet

1414
02:22:20,090 --> 02:22:28,990
per year provided during drought years as the beneficial result of having the Chaco reservoir

1415
02:22:28,990 --> 02:22:29,910
expansion.

1416
02:22:29,910 --> 02:22:52,290
If you consider alternatives as such, as the osmosis-priceless process or waste water recovery and desalmization for this 5.6 or 5.3 billion dollars,

1417
02:22:53,230 --> 02:22:57,790
You could have a hundred percent guarantee of the water available.

1418
02:22:58,690 --> 02:23:01,330
You wouldn't have to worry about algae blooms.

1419
02:23:02,070 --> 02:23:04,990
You wouldn't have to worry about earthquakes in the Delta.

1420
02:23:07,340 --> 02:23:13,100
So my message is, you should, I encourage the staff there.

1421
02:23:13,580 --> 02:23:16,800
I know they have a lot of vested interest seven years

1422
02:23:16,800 --> 02:23:19,120
in the Pacheco Reservoir expansion,

1423
02:23:19,880 --> 02:23:29,400
But the consider viable options that would be more cost-of-the-than-a-taco-expansion.

1424
02:23:29,600 --> 02:23:31,020
Thank you.

1425
02:23:31,100 --> 02:23:32,940
Thank you.

1426
02:23:33,920 --> 02:23:37,080
Ms. Molly Cotin?

1427
02:23:41,200 --> 02:23:42,120
Hi, can you hear me?

1428
02:23:42,700 --> 02:23:43,140
Yes.

1429
02:23:43,740 --> 02:23:47,100
Hi, board directors. This is Molly Cotin with Sierra Club California.

1430
02:23:47,660 --> 02:23:51,960
I don't have much to do to say on this, but I wanted to thank Director Keegan and Director Eisenberg.

1431
02:23:51,960 --> 02:23:54,680
For asking these critical questions about this project,

1432
02:23:55,120 --> 02:23:57,180
especially regarding seismic risk and cost,

1433
02:23:57,640 --> 02:23:58,760
these are important questions,

1434
02:23:59,000 --> 02:24:02,420
especially considering that the cost of the seismic retrofit of Anderson Dam

1435
02:24:02,420 --> 02:24:05,840
is tripled from two years ago, as well as costly decisions.

1436
02:24:06,340 --> 02:24:08,780
I thank the Valley Water staff for presenting these updates

1437
02:24:08,780 --> 02:24:11,920
at regular board meetings, and Sierra Club looks forward to continuing

1438
02:24:11,920 --> 02:24:15,120
to engage and provide input on these updates. Thank you.

1439
02:24:15,460 --> 02:24:20,220
Yeah. Thank you. And then we look forward to your continuity engagement

1440
02:24:20,220 --> 02:24:22,020
and these major projects.

1441
02:24:23,480 --> 02:24:26,040
Okay, next one is

1442
02:24:29,650 --> 02:24:31,890
Ms. Dan, Mr.

1443
02:24:33,790 --> 02:24:35,590
Thank you, Chair. Can you hear me?

1444
02:24:35,870 --> 02:24:37,350
Now we can hear you.

1445
02:24:37,670 --> 02:24:38,030
Excellent.

1446
02:24:38,650 --> 02:24:43,050
I'd just like to read it on 8.1, the comments that

1447
02:24:43,050 --> 02:24:47,130
Sarah Cubs Irvin made that the forward-looking schedule

1448
02:24:47,130 --> 02:24:50,590
in some advance for updates would be extremely useful.

1449
02:24:50,590 --> 02:24:54,750
I'd like to thank all the commissioners who asked detailed questions about this.

1450
02:24:55,450 --> 02:24:55,910
I'm like this.

1451
02:24:55,910 --> 02:24:59,970
Thanks, Sierra Club for being there and also director and former senator.

1452
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:16,040
In the video board directors questions are followed up, so I will do my best to ensure that. Thank you. And that's all the public comment I have. Any further board questions, director? Santos?

1453
02:25:17,280 --> 02:25:22,940
Yeah, thank you, Chair. There's a couple of other things that doesn't mean it's the only thing you just trouble things to consider.

1454
02:25:23,740 --> 02:25:31,240
When I go by 152 on a muslim basis, I see millions of gallons of soap lake, so there's a better way of recapturing it.

1455
02:25:31,380 --> 02:25:37,920
I think that one way is, you save it before it gets there, because we're losing water all the time that contributes to the flooding in the Sahara.

1456
02:25:38,820 --> 02:25:49,480
The other issue is that when Director of Rhello was here, him and I took a ride with CDF, but he'll be caught here and looked at all those fire potential hazards for the future.

1457
02:25:51,020 --> 02:25:56,580
and a check-up can be a very good source for all those mountains and I can go on and on

1458
02:25:56,580 --> 02:26:01,060
property and forest and those things and that's being considered continually. I think

1459
02:26:01,060 --> 02:26:06,820
Mr. Drupal, that's the right name, you consider other alternatives and I have continually,

1460
02:26:07,660 --> 02:26:12,240
and if we could probably put recycling plants all over the place, unless it costs, that might

1461
02:26:12,240 --> 02:26:18,300
be the result. I think we also, it's totally recommended, but we've always talked about the future.

1462
02:26:18,300 --> 02:26:27,180
You know, we got ours, but your great grandkids need water and this is one way I believe that can have a better future and pay less than damage control.

1463
02:26:28,000 --> 02:26:31,660
The other is she was about 20 something years ago.

1464
02:26:31,980 --> 02:26:37,280
CEO Rick calendar and I was in San Francisco with Jim Coleman.

1465
02:26:38,120 --> 02:26:47,000
And we had a meeting's up there with San Francisco and all the different talk talk about water sources and very boats and rescue people during earthquakes.

1466
02:26:47,000 --> 02:26:52,040
and I remember it was sitting there and we're talking about all the opportunities and how it's

1467
02:26:52,040 --> 02:26:58,600
real serious. And at that time, that was quoted with 62% and next 20 years of having earthquake.

1468
02:26:59,180 --> 02:27:06,120
Now it's 72. So folks, first courts are happy. All the time we're in a earthquake area.

1469
02:27:06,420 --> 02:27:12,140
I don't care where you build what you do. It's there and we need to really take all those horses we can

1470
02:27:12,140 --> 02:27:15,460
because there's a serious issue and losing water

1471
02:27:15,460 --> 02:27:17,220
in the future, Silicon Valley.

1472
02:27:17,720 --> 02:27:20,940
The public, the biggest issue is jobs in the economy boost.

1473
02:27:21,300 --> 02:27:23,220
There's so many things that we need to explore

1474
02:27:23,220 --> 02:27:24,740
and I believe it could be helpful.

1475
02:27:24,860 --> 02:27:25,580
Thank you.

1476
02:27:25,780 --> 02:27:27,360
Okay, let's thank you.

1477
02:27:27,580 --> 02:27:28,240
Thank you.

1478
02:27:28,320 --> 02:27:30,660
Any further comments from board?

1479
02:27:31,140 --> 02:27:31,920
Okay, hearing none.

1480
02:27:32,320 --> 02:27:35,980
We don't have any public requests to speak, any.

1481
02:27:37,820 --> 02:27:47,700
With that, now that we are able to solve the technical problem, I want to go back to item 5.1.

1482
02:27:48,460 --> 02:28:00,220
We already had a motion and then a second, Mr. Dan, can you now provide your public comment on item 5.1?

1483
02:28:00,480 --> 02:28:03,360
Excuse me, Mr. Chair, Madam Chair, I think it was 5.3.

1484
02:28:03,360 --> 02:28:05,260
I'm sorry, 5.3.

1485
02:28:20,220 --> 02:28:20,540
Thank you.

1486
02:28:20,600 --> 02:28:21,420
Can you hear me?

1487
02:28:21,860 --> 02:28:22,100
Yes.

1488
02:28:23,000 --> 02:28:23,340
Excellent.

1489
02:28:24,420 --> 02:28:31,120
I appreciate Director Santos efforts to preserve public comment.

1490
02:28:31,980 --> 02:28:39,220
I'm not regular waterboard follower and we bit of a due process fan.

1491
02:28:40,100 --> 02:28:43,780
And we're some of you have some illustrious legal backgrounds.

1492
02:28:43,780 --> 02:28:59,540
And I don't want to be that guy telling you, I want you to room full of lawyers what the Constitution means, but I'm going to draw attention here to the, the presumption of innocence and the due process right out of the Fifth Amendment.

1493
02:29:00,320 --> 02:29:08,020
And I'm also going to call attention to the confrontation cause of the Six Amendment that provides all criminal prosecutions.

1494
02:29:08,020 --> 02:29:13,680
you're accused, shall enjoy the right to be confronted with the witnesses against him.

1495
02:29:13,820 --> 02:29:17,140
And we'll include here in there for this reason.

1496
02:29:17,860 --> 02:29:23,820
I first found about this issue through the San Jose Spotlight, which is a pay-to-play

1497
02:30:00,300 --> 02:30:27,860
The groundwork laid for them. I would suggest that the physical agenda here is out of order, in addition to the amount of harm that cannot be clawed back on here. The ultimate goal of the board, I'm assuming with a approval of this motion, would be to convict one of the directors of a crime.

1498
02:30:27,860 --> 02:30:34,980
crime that the the DA is not charged anyone with has not commented on I would suggest that

1499
02:30:34,980 --> 02:30:42,780
all this get postponed until after the DA has made a recommendation on this case you really

1500
02:30:42,780 --> 02:30:48,620
have put the cart before the horse and I'll use both possible meanings of the word out of order

1501
02:30:48,620 --> 02:30:55,780
here. Every one of your directors, everyone has a right to confront the accused, they have a right

1502
02:30:55,780 --> 02:30:57,800
all the information against them.

1503
02:31:01,050 --> 02:31:04,530
And also, you know, the due process clause of innocence until

1504
02:31:04,530 --> 02:31:11,930
proven guilt. However, this was dumped on the San Jose spotlight was not a normal journalistic

1505
02:31:12,470 --> 02:31:17,550
endeavor. They've had 4,500 donors in the last five years. They were there. Most of them

1506
02:31:17,550 --> 02:31:24,510
guessing under $10. It's paid to play. You donate $5,000 to run a story for you. You donate $10,000

1507
02:31:24,510 --> 02:31:26,710
still run a poll for you.

1508
02:31:28,390 --> 02:31:37,010
Petty squabbles, disagreements between staff and commissioners should be handled handled

1509
02:31:37,010 --> 02:31:38,590
on an inside basis.

1510
02:31:39,650 --> 02:31:41,630
They don't need to be, they're not the public's business.

1511
02:31:42,390 --> 02:31:48,410
The public and yourselves, there's no benefit on their horizon for any of you guys by pursuing

1512
02:31:48,410 --> 02:31:49,010
this.

1513
02:31:49,150 --> 02:31:53,510
But the DEI handle it, and let the chips fall where they may thank you very much.

1514
02:31:54,410 --> 02:31:55,670
Thank you.

1515
02:32:00,100 --> 02:32:08,660
So we are not heard all the public comments related to five three. We already have a motion in the second.

1516
02:32:09,640 --> 02:32:19,060
And so this motion second is to have a public here to set the public hearing and then if the board

1517
02:32:20,000 --> 02:32:23,680
approved that then we'll talk about the dates.

1518
02:32:24,380 --> 02:32:25,140
Director Keegan.

1519
02:32:26,340 --> 02:32:33,600
Thank you. I'm Chair Shway. I just want to get back to our original comments and what you laid out.

1520
02:32:33,800 --> 02:32:38,060
This is just to have a hearing. This is just to answer questions.

1521
02:32:38,320 --> 02:32:49,040
This is not any decision at this point on the part of anyone on the board as to what the conclusion of this will

1522
02:32:49,040 --> 02:32:50,620
or should be.

1523
02:32:52,750 --> 02:32:59,210
Thank you for that clarification and also that it is following our own policy.

1524
02:32:59,930 --> 02:33:05,990
So it is an internal internal activities. So okay.

1525
02:33:09,070 --> 02:33:09,930
Do you have a question?

1526
02:33:11,210 --> 02:33:18,570
Okay. Okay. Go ahead. So I'm a little confused that it's just to ask questions because

1527
02:33:18,570 --> 02:33:25,730
The decision to put this on the agenda was made without my ability to speak to it.

1528
02:33:25,950 --> 02:33:30,550
The investigation of me occurred without my inclusion.

1529
02:33:32,190 --> 02:33:38,650
So, looking at the board policies, it's fairly clear that that violated board policies.

1530
02:33:38,650 --> 02:33:47,270
season. If I may come in since, you know, when the police detective called me last week and told

1531
02:33:47,270 --> 02:33:52,770
me that you all had reported me for a crime, I asked him what crime, and he thought for a little

1532
02:33:52,770 --> 02:34:00,030
bit, and he said, petty theft. I said, what did I steal? And apparently I stole a printout. I said,

1533
02:34:00,030 --> 02:34:06,230
you know, I will offer to pay for it using my district funds, discretionary funds. I mean,

1534
02:34:06,230 --> 02:34:32,910
So anyway, so what I'm saying here's that all of this was done without my involvement, it doesn't make sense to have a hearing about me, that doesn't include me and to have the decision about whether you're going to have a hearing about me without me, none of the materials on which you made your decision to put this on the agenda.

1535
02:34:34,130 --> 02:34:44,770
included my input, and that violates human decency, in addition to common sense, in addition

1536
02:34:44,770 --> 02:34:51,310
to all standard rules. In fact, I asked the detective. I said, I'm just curious, in your

1537
02:34:51,310 --> 02:34:57,230
experience, when you do an investigation of someone about whether or not they committed

1538
02:34:57,230 --> 02:34:59,970
fine. Do you in

1539
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:13,060
Do you involve the accused person? And he said, of course, I said, could you imagine an investigation into

1540
02:35:13,060 --> 02:35:25,020
weather of person committed a crime without the inclusion of interviewing that accused person? And he said, I cannot imagine that.

1541
02:35:25,020 --> 02:35:33,400
I said, well, the investigation they did at me, it must have taken a lot of time and money.

1542
02:35:33,840 --> 02:35:38,600
They interviewed a lot of people, they looked at video footage, wow, there are a lot of cameras

1543
02:35:38,600 --> 02:35:43,540
watching us all go and, but they did not ask me.

1544
02:35:44,000 --> 02:35:53,420
So I think that it is premature and inappropriate to decide whether to have a hearing about

1545
02:35:53,420 --> 02:35:56,360
whether or not I should be censured,

1546
02:35:56,740 --> 02:35:59,900
I hear you that will cause irreparable damage to me.

1547
02:36:00,180 --> 02:36:02,760
And my reputation, and likely my family,

1548
02:36:03,020 --> 02:36:07,180
who are already receiving harassment based on this.

1549
02:36:07,400 --> 02:36:11,660
As I need to tell you, I have a kid still in high school

1550
02:36:11,660 --> 02:36:15,020
at a public school who is hearing about this

1551
02:36:15,020 --> 02:36:17,540
and is not friendly.

1552
02:36:18,460 --> 02:36:22,020
So to extent, you think that having a hearing

1553
02:36:22,020 --> 02:36:28,280
about whether or not I should be censured is harmless to me.

1554
02:36:28,880 --> 02:36:36,120
I don't think that is supported by any common sense, any integrity or any lived reality.

1555
02:36:37,960 --> 02:36:40,380
I truly believe that this is premature.

1556
02:36:41,020 --> 02:36:48,020
I believe it should be sent back to the Ethics Committee in a brown act approved, you know,

1557
02:36:48,020 --> 02:37:03,660
In a way that includes an interview of me, where these questions can be asked of me rather than on everyone else and their sister and mother without me.

1558
02:37:04,420 --> 02:37:09,080
So if you choose to hold this, think if you choose to hold this investigation anyway.

1559
02:37:09,880 --> 02:37:20,160
You are doing so in violation of all past practice, all common sense, and stated common rules of investigations.

1560
02:37:20,540 --> 02:37:29,720
As reported by this detective and any detective you'll possibly talk to, it is unheard of to investigate something without talking to the accused.

1561
02:37:30,340 --> 02:37:36,720
And as one of the colors said, it may even be unconstitutional, especially because you felt criminal charges against me or you tried to.

1562
02:37:36,720 --> 02:37:43,820
So I can't control what this board does and Lord knows I can't predict it, but please know that

1563
02:37:43,820 --> 02:37:49,960
if you do put this year and on, you will be causing harm, irreparable harm to me and to my family,

1564
02:37:50,380 --> 02:37:58,480
including my two children. Thank you. Okay. We. Yeah. So if there's no other comment that's take

1565
02:37:58,480 --> 02:38:07,740
vote, I think that's do a real call vote. So this is to consider the recommendation of the board

1566
02:38:07,740 --> 02:38:14,900
asks in conduct at our committee to set a public hearing. We think 30 days on whether true

1567
02:38:14,900 --> 02:38:23,980
national director Rebecca Isham verb based on a last misconduct occurring January 29, 2024. So so

1568
02:38:23,980 --> 02:38:28,200
will be sometime 30 days from today, if the board

1569
02:38:28,200 --> 02:38:33,020
approves this recommendation. So is that that's take a vote?

1570
02:38:33,920 --> 02:38:37,800
Director Bell. Director Eisenberg.

1571
02:38:39,080 --> 02:38:44,440
Oh. Director Estimera. Director Keegan. Vice chair Santos.

1572
02:38:45,280 --> 02:38:50,220
Chair Schwit. Yes. Motion passes. Okay. So then

1573
02:38:50,220 --> 02:38:56,020
But with that approval from majority of the board,

1574
02:38:56,600 --> 02:39:00,960
my question to the board, what's your preference in a special meeting,

1575
02:39:01,180 --> 02:39:05,400
or a part of a regular board meeting, special meeting?

1576
02:39:05,840 --> 02:39:11,580
OK, then we will schedule a special meeting about 30 days from today.

1577
02:39:11,920 --> 02:39:13,300
OK, thank you very much.

1578
02:39:13,300 --> 02:39:16,280
I'll move on to item 8.2.

1579
02:39:16,280 --> 02:39:18,760
OK, OK.

1580
02:39:18,760 --> 02:39:38,760
Approved amendment number 1 to agreement number A4215A with AECOM technical services ink for planning design and environmental documentation and permitting support for the particular reservoir extension project project number 9195402

1581
02:39:38,760 --> 02:39:45,000
or two, modifying retention, requirements, and extending the agreement term.

1582
02:39:46,680 --> 02:39:48,400
Mr. Churr, MacArthur.

1583
02:39:48,700 --> 02:39:52,980
Yes, good afternoon. Again, Ryan MacArthur, Deputy Operating Officer of the Dam Safety and

1584
02:39:52,980 --> 02:39:59,980
Capital of Delivery Division. So this item here has a little bit of history as laid out in the

1585
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:09,680
Some flexibility for releases of retention at points throughout the project. That hasn't transpired as we planned, based on the schedule of the project and activities being completed.

1586
02:40:10,380 --> 02:40:27,280
So what we've done is made a lot more flexible language that would allow us to release retention with approval. So we would go through a reasonable discussion with the consultant, you know, if they had a good case, we would release the amount of retention that they claim. So that would be done through a staff approval process.

1587
02:40:27,280 --> 02:40:34,160
So that's what the essence of this all all is and what it means it's at this point, it's about a $400,000

1588
02:40:35,140 --> 02:40:40,320
total of retention to be released mainly for self-contractors, actually all for self-contractors.

1589
02:40:41,500 --> 02:40:49,620
To date we just checked today we've paid a comm just under $50 million as part of this contract and we've retained 5 million.

1590
02:40:49,860 --> 02:40:52,280
So this is less than 10% of the 10%.

1591
02:40:52,280 --> 02:40:57,780
So that's kind of just some perspective on the magnitude of all this and just what it means.

1592
02:40:58,460 --> 02:41:03,820
And this work this retention was for work that's already completed.

1593
02:41:04,360 --> 02:41:13,200
Yes, that have already checked the work and then it's all to standard and also that majority of these subcontractor are small contractors.

1594
02:41:13,320 --> 02:41:14,500
That's correct.

1595
02:41:15,940 --> 02:41:18,580
Questions from board members.

1596
02:41:20,080 --> 02:41:25,120
Okay, I do have a potential public comment, Mr.

1597
02:41:27,240 --> 02:41:29,420
David, to perform.

1598
02:41:30,060 --> 02:41:32,480
Do you want to make a comment on 8.2 also?

1599
02:41:37,280 --> 02:41:38,020
No, thank you, Chair.

1600
02:41:39,460 --> 02:41:42,120
Okay. Thank you. Now, we have a motion and second.

1601
02:41:43,160 --> 02:41:45,260
Oh, okay. Sorry.

1602
02:41:46,000 --> 02:41:47,460
There are tricky. Can you have a question?

1603
02:41:48,480 --> 02:41:49,700
I just have a comment.

1604
02:41:49,700 --> 02:42:04,400
It concerns me to vote, yes, on anything associated with Pacheco given that I feel we're spending a lot of money in advance of unanswered questions on this project.

1605
02:42:04,520 --> 02:42:14,820
However, given the fact that small businesses are being hurt at this point, I am reluctantly going to go along and book this.

1606
02:42:14,820 --> 02:42:24,740
Okay. Then we'll take a vote on favor say I. I. Okay. Opposed? No. Okay. We have five

1607
02:42:24,740 --> 02:42:27,420
years and one, no motion carries.

1608
02:42:31,560 --> 02:42:37,540
Okay. Item 8.3. Authorised execution of an option to

1609
02:42:37,540 --> 02:42:48,660
purchase for real property interest from Rolando Bellemini and Aida Bellemini, trustees

1610
02:42:48,660 --> 02:42:57,580
of the Bellemini family trust for the benefit of Rolando Bellemini and Aida Bellemini.

1611
02:42:57,580 --> 02:43:06,100
APM number A9A 35006, real estate file number 9155-11.

1612
02:43:08,180 --> 02:43:10,200
Is there a staff explanation on this?

1613
02:43:10,880 --> 02:43:11,000
No.

1614
02:43:11,660 --> 02:43:12,200
Second.

1615
02:43:13,440 --> 02:43:14,400
Do we have questions?

1616
02:43:14,820 --> 02:43:15,000
Okay.

1617
02:43:15,280 --> 02:43:16,540
We have Director Keegan.

1618
02:43:17,380 --> 02:43:18,020
Thank you.

1619
02:43:19,020 --> 02:43:19,720
I'm sorry.

1620
02:43:19,880 --> 02:43:22,120
You may have answered this in the staff report,

1621
02:43:22,460 --> 02:43:24,840
but I wasn't able to see it.

1622
02:43:24,840 --> 02:43:34,940
So, as I read it, we're entering into a four-year option agreement for the sum of 500,000.

1623
02:43:35,660 --> 02:43:39,140
So, we will be expanding that.

1624
02:43:39,280 --> 02:43:44,220
And then, with a 3.5 purchase price.

1625
02:43:44,760 --> 02:43:47,560
So, is that price locked in?

1626
02:43:48,220 --> 02:43:53,480
Yes, that was what is currently on the open market for sale at,

1627
02:43:53,480 --> 02:43:55,240
That was the price that, right?

1628
02:43:55,340 --> 02:43:59,700
But they couldn't, like, in three years, say, well, properties were a lot more here.

1629
02:43:59,900 --> 02:44:01,600
And so it is locked in.

1630
02:44:01,920 --> 02:44:02,040
Okay.

1631
02:44:02,140 --> 02:44:02,740
Thank you.

1632
02:44:03,060 --> 02:44:03,080
Yeah.

1633
02:44:03,400 --> 02:44:03,840
Okay.

1634
02:44:04,660 --> 02:44:05,640
Director Eisenberg.

1635
02:44:06,420 --> 02:44:08,380
What project is this related to?

1636
02:44:09,200 --> 02:44:15,780
So this would, the intent would be that this would be mitigation property for

1637
02:44:15,780 --> 02:44:16,560
Pacheco.

1638
02:44:16,780 --> 02:44:22,220
But it has mitigation value for potentially other projects as well beyond just that project.

1639
02:44:22,220 --> 02:44:26,540
So we cannot fully purchase it until the SQL document is complete.

1640
02:44:26,760 --> 02:44:30,420
But if another project were to have a completed SQL document

1641
02:44:30,420 --> 02:44:31,760
that could be used at this mitigation,

1642
02:44:31,960 --> 02:44:34,460
it could be purchased for that property as well or project as well.

1643
02:44:34,760 --> 02:44:36,760
What's the proposed source of funds?

1644
02:44:38,900 --> 02:44:40,160
The project funds?

1645
02:44:40,900 --> 02:44:41,740
Which project funds?

1646
02:44:41,980 --> 02:44:42,220
Pachicle.

1647
02:44:43,320 --> 02:44:46,000
So what's the source of those project funds?

1648
02:44:46,480 --> 02:44:48,800
In terms of the, is it prop one funds?

1649
02:44:48,820 --> 02:44:50,080
Is it the wiffy alone?

1650
02:44:50,400 --> 02:44:50,680
No.

1651
02:44:51,480 --> 02:44:53,460
What is the sort of,

1652
02:44:54,500 --> 02:44:56,780
But what are you to leave on?

1653
02:44:57,660 --> 02:44:59,960
And what if utility funds are funded by...

1654
02:45:07,350 --> 02:45:11,610
Okay. Good afternoon. Water quality. Fund is funded primarily by water rates.

1655
02:45:12,430 --> 02:45:18,910
I water rates. So the question is, should rate pay half a million dollars, which is less than they paid

1656
02:45:18,910 --> 02:45:23,810
on the investigation against me. That was 600,000. Should they pay 500,000 dollars for the acquisition

1657
02:45:23,810 --> 02:45:27,870
of this property that may or may not be related to Pacheco?

1658
02:45:30,160 --> 02:45:33,480
Yes. Okay. Thank you.

1659
02:45:34,240 --> 02:45:37,180
Okay, and you further questions.

1660
02:45:40,260 --> 02:45:43,380
We have any public comment on this item.

1661
02:45:44,080 --> 02:45:44,560
Thank you, Manager.

1662
02:45:44,560 --> 02:45:46,240
I have no requests at this time.

1663
02:45:47,600 --> 02:45:52,860
We have for motion as second, which I go vote on favor say aye.

1664
02:45:55,380 --> 02:45:56,020
Opposed?

1665
02:45:56,180 --> 02:45:56,680
No.

1666
02:45:56,820 --> 02:45:58,820
I think great payers are more than enough.

1667
02:45:59,800 --> 02:45:59,980
No.

1668
02:46:03,520 --> 02:46:07,380
So we have four years.

1669
02:46:07,380 --> 02:46:13,400
and two knows. And I collect. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Motion carries.

1670
02:46:18,010 --> 02:46:18,010
Hey,

1671
02:46:22,210 --> 02:46:22,730
there's nothing

1672
02:46:22,730 --> 02:46:31,590
under external affairs. Are there any? No. Chief Executive offers officer report 10.1.

1673
02:46:33,570 --> 02:46:38,250
Yes, good afternoon, Madam Chair, Members of the Board. We're calendar CO today. We will only have

1674
02:46:38,250 --> 02:46:42,210
one quick report and I'll turn it over to acting in COO, Jennifer Codian.

1675
02:46:51,030 --> 02:46:58,870
Sorry about that. Acting COO, Jennifer Codian, here to give the storm report. So our

1676
02:46:58,870 --> 02:47:04,390
precipitation levels are above average and all watersheds for the year. And the reservoir levels

1677
02:47:04,390 --> 02:47:12,390
are at 38%, but over 70% on average for this time of the year. Beyond that, this last storm event,

1678
02:47:12,390 --> 02:47:18,730
we had crews operating and removing debris throughout the county. And we kept up on a

1679
02:47:18,730 --> 02:47:23,360
sandbag, sandbag's county wide tube. And that's really all I have to report.

1680
02:47:24,670 --> 02:47:29,710
Okay, thank you. That's the same. Let's just questions that would in the CEO's report,

1681
02:47:30,130 --> 02:47:41,670
Churchill. Okay. Questions? Okay, no. Okay, nothing under 11, nothing under 12. And then 13.1,

1682
02:47:41,670 --> 02:47:49,310
reviewed the fiscal year 2023, 2024 board policy planning calendar. As I said, at the last

1683
02:47:49,310 --> 02:47:59,350
board meeting, I like to make it a regular thing that we looked at what's coming up on our agenda.

1684
02:48:00,390 --> 02:48:08,630
And so, if you open up the attachment for the board policy planning calendar for

1685
02:48:08,630 --> 02:48:15,630
February, we moved this particular resource extension part of the Census report from January 2,

1686
02:48:15,690 --> 02:48:24,170
February, that's what we did today. And I heard a public comment about trying our best to

1687
02:48:24,170 --> 02:48:33,010
schedule those upcoming topics related to Pacheco Festival. I will take that and work with the

1688
02:48:33,010 --> 02:48:37,650
the UN staff to do all of that as to schedule, to schedule it.

1689
02:48:38,050 --> 02:48:42,630
And then, there's another important item

1690
02:48:42,630 --> 02:48:44,590
that Delta Convenience Project.

1691
02:48:44,870 --> 02:48:49,870
It was planned to have a board for boards briefing

1692
02:48:50,290 --> 02:48:54,090
in February with some cost information

1693
02:48:54,090 --> 02:48:58,310
that's currently being studied by a state of California,

1694
02:48:58,310 --> 02:48:59,150
the WR.

1695
02:48:59,150 --> 02:49:08,450
So step is waiting until we find out more about that study and then helping the status of Delta

1696
02:49:08,450 --> 02:49:10,730
comments project to the food board for briefing.

1697
02:49:11,290 --> 02:49:22,990
So those are the important items that's for the rest of the February and that's it for

1698
02:49:22,990 --> 02:49:28,550
item. Any comments from board? Anything you want to add to our

1699
02:49:28,550 --> 02:49:29,790
trying to cannot calendar?

1700
02:49:36,360 --> 02:49:43,040
Okay. Okay. And item 14 board member reports

1701
02:49:43,920 --> 02:49:49,340
announcement maybe that just focus on board member reports that earlier in

1702
02:49:49,340 --> 02:49:59,980
Our votes on our number of meeting dates and then the permitting compensation, we were reminded that high.

1703
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:10,500
In our own policy, it is required us to report on the meetings that we intend to submit for

1704
02:50:10,500 --> 02:50:20,300
reimbursement per our policy. So it is required that we report on the meetings that we attended.

1705
02:50:20,300 --> 02:50:33,120
So, is that how I will start with Director Keden, what would we, that our party says the following meeting, we can change our policy, but at this point that's what the policy said.

1706
02:50:37,120 --> 02:50:43,120
Okay, but today please, I know it's a long meeting, so let's just do it.

1707
02:50:43,120 --> 02:50:47,760
will fast. We just need to report the kind of the meetings that you

1708
02:50:47,760 --> 02:50:51,600
are trying to understand it. I don't need to get it to the detail.

1709
02:50:53,300 --> 02:50:58,320
Thank you, Director Shway. I may include some meetings that are

1710
02:50:58,320 --> 02:51:02,740
interested in the community, but that I don't necessarily plan on asking for money

1711
02:51:02,740 --> 02:51:06,740
from. I was the alternate to the DCA board meeting, Director

1712
02:51:06,740 --> 02:51:18,160
as the representative. I attended the 2024 state of the county address where a new chair, Susan

1713
02:51:18,160 --> 02:51:25,320
Ellenberg was picked, attended a special water conservation and demand management meeting,

1714
02:51:27,260 --> 02:51:32,340
also attended a stream planning and operations committee meeting,

1715
02:51:33,420 --> 02:51:40,260
board audit committee prep meeting, the volunteer recognition event where which was great

1716
02:51:40,260 --> 02:51:47,440
and it was wonderful to meet so many volunteers that don't dedicate their time to valley water.

1717
02:51:47,820 --> 02:51:52,340
It's much appreciated kind of meeting with the Sierra Club.

1718
02:51:55,810 --> 02:52:01,830
Board ethics and ad hoc meeting, meeting on board audit committee self assessment.

1719
02:52:04,810 --> 02:52:16,720
I'm meeting with District Council and Valley Water Town Hall meeting and I represented Valley

1720
02:52:16,720 --> 02:52:22,000
Water at the Lunar New Year Day Celebration, the TEP Festival with the Raising of the

1721
02:52:22,000 --> 02:52:28,520
Vietnamese Flag, which was a wonderful event and it was a privilege to represent the district

1722
02:52:28,520 --> 02:52:30,900
there and that's it.

1723
02:52:31,160 --> 02:52:32,300
Thank you.

1724
02:52:32,300 --> 02:52:35,280
Director Asfina. Yes, Madam Chair.

1725
02:52:36,020 --> 02:52:37,760
Thended the spark committee meeting,

1726
02:52:38,220 --> 02:52:39,760
recycled committee meeting.

1727
02:52:39,960 --> 02:52:44,580
Met with the DCA CEO. Also that board meeting,

1728
02:52:44,800 --> 02:52:48,160
appropriate meeting there. The town hall meeting.

1729
02:52:48,200 --> 02:52:50,340
Met with the CEO or the general council.

1730
02:52:51,600 --> 02:52:57,020
Okay. My report since our last report, I attended the

1731
02:52:58,340 --> 02:53:01,760
Special Water Conservation and Management Committee meeting.

1732
02:53:01,760 --> 02:53:13,820
that was special outside council and then Agenda Weekly Agenda Review meeting was the

1733
02:53:13,820 --> 02:53:26,220
CACO and the vice chair landscape committee meeting and and then independent monitoring

1734
02:53:26,220 --> 02:53:31,590
committee meeting director Santos.

1735
02:53:32,210 --> 02:53:36,810
Thank you, Madam Chair, numerous meetings, but I'll just mention a few that the last

1736
02:53:36,810 --> 02:53:43,470
gap in meeting with Chair Shua, Audit Committee, Paris, the Citizen Advisory Committee

1737
02:53:43,470 --> 02:53:44,470
last night.

1738
02:53:45,390 --> 02:53:52,770
We have the in-house in Sunnyvale, our important meetings, and Farm Bureau, and on February 29th,

1739
02:53:52,810 --> 02:53:56,430
I think it's going to be our ninth year as a landscape in summer, so if you get a chance,

1740
02:53:56,790 --> 02:54:00,770
come here at 9 o'clock and learn a lot about what to reuse and what are conservation and

1741
02:54:00,770 --> 02:54:02,270
all the good things, thank you.

1742
02:54:02,290 --> 02:54:03,850
Thank you, Dr. Arsonberg.

1743
02:54:04,550 --> 02:54:07,430
Most of my meetings, somehow, were cancels.

1744
02:54:07,890 --> 02:54:10,890
So I used the time to attend everybody else's meetings

1745
02:54:10,890 --> 02:54:12,370
and they've already described those.

1746
02:54:12,850 --> 02:54:15,330
The one thing that I, which is always interesting

1747
02:54:15,330 --> 02:54:16,750
to attend other people's meetings,

1748
02:54:16,930 --> 02:54:18,970
I learned so much and it's so bunch.

1749
02:54:19,910 --> 02:54:22,630
One, one event that was different from that

1750
02:54:22,630 --> 02:54:27,810
is that I had a delightful time speaking to a universal church.

1751
02:54:27,810 --> 02:54:28,970
Great, that's a good unit tier.

1752
02:54:29,210 --> 02:54:32,030
You know, somebody tell me this word, unit, terrian.

1753
02:54:32,930 --> 02:54:34,290
You know what I'm talking about.

1754
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:21,000
And it was lovely. And we had a wonderful time singing, you know, none denomminational hymns and talking about nature and the group was phenomenal. And I so enjoy speaking with the community. So, and I think that the presentation given by one of our engineers, one of our experts in.

1755
02:55:21,000 --> 02:55:32,500
I might forget this name right now. I'm so sorry. I thought you were amazing. I thought that the presentation that he did was phenomenal and the Q&A afterwards is wonderful. So I love those events. Thanks.

1756
02:55:33,180 --> 02:55:34,020
To talk to Bill.

1757
02:55:36,830 --> 02:55:38,390
Thank you.

1758
02:55:38,930 --> 02:55:43,570
A lot of me. I drove him to a couple to go to the California Transportation Commission meeting.

1759
02:55:43,570 --> 02:56:13,530
And I talked to the commissioners, chair of the Assembly Transportation Committee, and Director, Tony Tobaras, I had a discussion about our Bayland's project with him and how if the court engineers approached the looking at it would turn highway 101 into a lake and whether or not he would

1760
02:56:14,250 --> 02:56:25,090
converted to a boating freeway due to the core of engineers approach and asked for his

1761
02:56:25,090 --> 02:56:35,650
support in our attempts to get core priority for the valence projects. And I also talked

1762
02:56:35,650 --> 02:56:41,770
to many of the commissioners about the same thing. They were very interested in that and I also

1763
02:56:41,770 --> 02:56:55,930
talked to him about the cis dam raise and realignment of Highway 152 and also the Delta

1764
02:56:55,930 --> 02:57:05,670
Mendoza Canal upgrades and in fact that we needed his support for stay highway crossings

1765
02:57:05,670 --> 02:57:16,670
really can now. Of course we all realize if the state transportation department is designing

1766
02:57:16,670 --> 02:57:23,850
their own facilities and they choose to design them at their pace then we have to follow

1767
02:57:23,850 --> 02:57:31,920
their schedule in building those facilities which may not be the timeline that we want to

1768
02:57:31,920 --> 02:57:43,320
get our projects going. I talked to Gene Cohen, my former staff member who's out now at the head

1769
02:57:43,320 --> 02:57:50,260
of the Labor Council and Gene was very supportive of the Valley Water and all their projects.

1770
02:57:51,400 --> 02:58:00,280
We had a constituent meetings on Ross Creek issues, especially during the flooding. There was a

1771
02:58:00,280 --> 02:58:10,400
concerned about Ross Creek overflowing. It didn't happen this time, but people are concerned about it.

1772
02:58:13,400 --> 02:58:20,580
I had coffee with Carvardino later and talked about the same projects. I talked to Tony Rivera.

1773
02:58:23,100 --> 02:58:29,540
Carvard was in Modesto and I met him there, but he wanted to have a special coffee,

1774
02:58:29,540 --> 02:58:30,880
So I met with him.

1775
02:58:31,440 --> 02:58:34,180
I met with my former district director,

1776
02:58:34,400 --> 02:58:38,180
who's now the district director

1777
02:58:38,180 --> 02:58:41,220
for a semi-monosh callerum, Sles Walker.

1778
02:58:42,000 --> 02:58:45,740
And we talked about the implementation

1779
02:58:46,940 --> 02:58:53,680
of AB 1469, and how thankful we were

1780
02:58:53,680 --> 02:58:58,160
for all the hard work you did last year on getting that bill passed.

1781
02:58:58,160 --> 02:59:27,420
I attended a laugh come meeting and it's a very short meeting and lastly I attended a meeting in Sacramento where the new speaker was sworn in and I got a chance to meet the Governor Brown again, yeah, it's very kind of hard to see Governor Brown but he's been in retirement but he came down, we talked and Governor knew some had a nice discussion with the Attorney General

1782
02:59:27,420 --> 02:59:33,880
Rob Bonta and all my former colleagues, it was nice to be up there talking to all my colleagues.

1783
02:59:34,080 --> 02:59:38,260
They let me sit on the floor with them next to the governor.

1784
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:08,060
Being a couch potato at home, they were happy that was actually doing some stuff. Mike McGuire is going to be a great leader.

1785
03:00:10,240 --> 03:00:15,340
We're so happy that David Cortesi was appointed chair of the Senate Transportation Committee.

1786
03:00:15,340 --> 03:00:25,320
And Scott Weiner is now a budget committee chair, so we were very pleased that our local

1787
03:00:25,320 --> 03:00:32,500
people are going to be in a position of authority in Sacramento, so those are the meetings

1788
03:00:32,500 --> 03:00:33,120
I attended.

1789
03:00:33,540 --> 03:00:34,620
Thank you.

1790
03:00:35,460 --> 03:00:36,440
Thank you everybody.

1791
03:00:36,440 --> 03:00:39,740
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