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Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm going to make a quick announcement before we start. District 6 chairperson, Tony

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Estrimera has requested to attend today's board meeting remotely for medical reasons. In compliance

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with AB2449. During the roll call, please state for the record if any individuals over 18 years

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page or present in the room. And if so, what the individual's general relationship to you is,

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please note that in compliance with AB2449, all votes taken in today's meeting will be conducted

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by a roll call vote. As a reminder, your camera must remain on.

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Okay, Director Bounder, Director Bell, Director Eisenberg, absent, Director Shua, Vice Chair

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Santas, Director Verella, absent, Chair Estimera.

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Hi, thank you madam chair, there's no one in the room, just me.

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So at this time we're going to go into closed session, we have a number of items, so we'll

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back up on a clock. Thank you.

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Yeah, for the director Rebecca Eisenberg, directors here. Thank you.

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And Mr. Chair before we go in a close session with respect to item 2.1,

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the claims or other writings giving rise to this close session are available for inspection

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in accordance with the Brown Act. Thank you. Thank you.

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Mr. Chair, are you here also okay?

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Mr. Chair, Tony,

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are you getting in response to him? Yeah, okay.

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Yeah, Tony, it's up.

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You got it.

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We'll call the meeting in the order, please.

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So we'll go back.

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We have the district council report on the closed session.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Carlos Loreana, District Council.

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With respect to the board met in closed session with all directors participating and with respect to item 2.1.

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Direction was given to staff.

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With respect to item 2.2 on a motion by chair.

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Mr. Maris seconded by Director Shua and a vote of 6 to 1 with Director Eisenberg voting

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no, the board at CEO Rick Calendor's request has placed Rick Calendor on paid an

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administrative leave beginning March 15th, 2025, and lasting until further notice.

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The board has further directed that CEO Calendor make himself available for interviews

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in any workplace investigations upon commencement of paid administrative leave.

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With respect to item 2.3, no reportable action was taken, with respect to item 2.4 on

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motion by Director Verella, seconded by Vice Chair Santos, and a vote of 6 to 1 with the

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Director Eisenberg voting. No, the board directed staff to file an answer in the action

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identified in the agenda disclosure for this item. Thank you. Thank you, Council.

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I will have the

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move everything forwards so we'll just go right

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Right through the, we'll just go right to the agenda and sometime during the meeting we'll take a 10 minute break, just so we can take a break in between.

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So we'll move right along to 3.3 time open, public comment on any item that under agenda.

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Now's the time for any members of the public that might want to address us on any issue that's under agenda today.

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Madam Clerk, do we have any requests?

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Thank you chair.

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We have no requests to speak at this time.

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Thank you.

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Then we'll move right along to 3.4.

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Receive the safe clean water and natural flood protection program.

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It depends on the monitoring companies and the reports of this school year.

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News.

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Good afternoon.

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Good afternoon chair.

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Mr. Mariam.

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Members of the board.

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My name is Luis Piniac.

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I serve as an assistant officer over seeing the coordination and alignment of several key programs

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to which are the Safe Clean Water and the CIP Capital Improvement Programs.

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So every year, the Independent Monitoring Committee meets to assess the previous

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years progress of our Safe Clean Water Programmer projects.

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They do this by looking back at its review of our Valley Water Safe Clean Water report.

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And in this case, they review the annual report for fiscal years 2023 to 2024.

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IMC, Chair, Jeffrey Hare is participating via Zoom today due to a scheduling conflict.

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However, here in person is one of our newest IMC members representing district

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for, which is Vice Chair Susan Landrie, who will present the IMC report today.

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And then we'll pause for questions in an item 3.5, our business planning analysis unit

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manager Jessica Collins will present value waters management response to that report.

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Thank you, it was

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good afternoon, Mr. Landrie.

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Oh, hi. So as he mentioned, I'm Susan Landrie. I think I know most of you on the board.

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I was appointed by Jim Bell and this is my first year, I'm currently the vice chair.

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You always see our letter from the independent monitoring committee so I'm just going to kind of quickly summarize.

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So as a board, we wish to state our appreciation and recognition to staff for the timely response and assistance in preparing the report.

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I am C at the first meeting in December set up subcommittees to review the safe water clean water program progress and to make this report today.

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There were six subcommittees. E-tone was around a priority area A through F plus the appendix of the financial report.

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We had General Recommendations, they were broken into three categories, A, procedural recommendations, B, program recommendations and C specific recommendations.

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Overall, the IFC members agree with the status of each item in the preport from the fiscal year 2324 Safe Clean Water Program Annual Report.

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procedural recommendations. We've had some problems getting a quorum and part of it is

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each district does not currently have two representatives. So we strongly encourage you to

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make sure that everybody has two representatives.

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Also, the public is becoming more and more

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aware of the impacts of climate change. Staff should provide more specific details on how some

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the proposed construction projects are actually beneficial in this context.

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Specifically something like Anderson Reservoir provide more information

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how effects climate change.

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The city continues to recommend staff work on improving the presentation.

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We got kind of nitpicky of colors of the bar charts and size of fonts

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and too much widespread space on the page, but overall the report was well prepared.

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Regarding program recommendations, generally the committee recommends that the annual report

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should provide greater clarity as to specific sources of funding for each different

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project and include a more detailed explanation and description of the sources of that income.

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That was program requirements, under specific recommendations, one of the things that's very

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apparent on water district projects is the jurisdictional complexities and that includes

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permitting external funding and inflammatory factors.

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The committee would request a presentation from staff about the relative overall impact of these

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jurisdictional complexities as it progresses through the next year and look at some

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innovative approaches that the committee could understand what valuable water district may be doing.

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The financial appendix was reviewed and requests that more information explaining the purpose and importance of long-term debt, repayment, timeline, debt costs and different financing options that may be available and how those support the program goals.

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So that's some re of our report.

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The one thing we do want is some tours and presentation.

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We have four listed.

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Ceratoga Creek has a TVMobile Anderson Dam

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size of the retrofit and coyote Creek flood protection.

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And the last one was a hail Creek enhancement pilot project.

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It's a geomorphological.

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We do have the channel in a constrained situation.

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it's pilot program and we thought that one would also be good to present. So at this point

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that's my presentation. If you have questions, I don't know if you're interactive to me or

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Great. Thank you, Ms. Landrieg. Well, yeah, when any board member asks you questions,

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we'll have you come up. Okay, thank you. Thank you.

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Yes, Ms. Chair, we got Dr. Shua.

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Yeah, direct to Shua.

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Thank you, Chief.

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Is there questions for Ms. Landrie?

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It's not a question.

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Okay, sorry.

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The request for our Ms. Landrie, that I read it in your report that the report is to have a full

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IFC committee.

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And then the year that I was on the board's representative on the IMC, I heard this

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constantly that this is a working committee that everybody wrote their his or her slave

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said then actually do work, not just receiving report from our staff, so maybe you can

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stress the importance for the, well generally the I know the clerk stays on top of you know

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So I'll ask the clerk to review the membership and let direct us know if there are any vacancies

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so that they can make immediate appointments.

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Yeah, that will be great.

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I have a quick question for our clerk of the board that does the appointed IMC member needs to

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recite within a specific district in order for that? No, as much as Santa Clara County. Correct.

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Okay. Okay. Thank you. I think that's that's important that that that definitely gives

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a more room for the director to find the appropriate person to serve on the

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the committee. Yes. Thank you. Okay, loose. We have director Rebellard. Oh, sorry,

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director Bellard.

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I actually was going to say exactly what director Shua said. And so I'm just

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going to underscore what she said. And I want to say for the record that my two seats are full. And

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I just want to peer. Blash publicly shame. Whoever my fellow directors are in terms of

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not having your slots full. This is a lovely part of our democracy to have folks serving in this role,

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so I would just encourage my colleagues to get their positions full. Mr. Chair, we have a

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direct horizon group. Thank you. I just want to say I would love to build my seats,

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but unfortunately everyone I have tried to recruit has looked at what this organization has done to me

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and wants doesn't want to have anything to do with it. So I'm hoping that can resolve over the time.

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Well, you claim to have 55,000 folks in your district, so we should be able to find some of them.

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Next. They're watching. Good. Next. I had somebody else on the there. Is that what you

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Director Bell, were you on there? John? Anybody else? No. Okay. So, loose.

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Mr. Chair, there's a point.

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Some of the committees we need to look at the criteria and change some. An example like a dagger

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culture. There's been vacancies and we can't fill them, not because people don't want to.

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Some of the criteria need to be changed so it encourages more to apply. So that's something

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you probably can give direction to review some of these committees and we'll go from there. Thank you.

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Nose? Yes and just for reference we have three vacancies. One in district one in district four

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and want to restrict seven to your terms.

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So this concludes this item and we're going...

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We want to move on to the next item, where Jessica Collins, our business planning analysis unit manager, will provide a response to the IMC report.

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Thank you. Jessica, good afternoon.

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Good afternoon.

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Chair, Mr. Marra and members. The Board, I'm pleased to be here this afternoon to present the management response to the IMC's annual report and review of the FY24 safety motor annual report.

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Before diving in, I did want to take a moment to thank the IMC members.

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This is no easy task.

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It takes a lot of hard work over the last few months.

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And I'm as always very impressed and appreciative of the role that you play and how seriously

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you take that role in the amount of time and effort that you put into your jobs.

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I also wanted to take a moment to thank bellywater staff that participated in this year's review process.

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There are everyone from the Secretary Water Project team that is under my unit as well as all of the project managers that are involved in development of the report and working with the IMC.

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Let's move on to the presentation.

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I think we have PowerPoint.

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Thank you.

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Okay, great.

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So in today's presentation, I'm going to be reviewing the management response to the IMC report.

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And allow the Board to, or ask the Board to accept the response and provide any direction as needed.

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So first I did just want to acknowledge that in review of the FY24 in your report,

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the IMC did agree with the status of all 32 projects, and there were no project specific recommendations, as mentioned.

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There were procedural and program level recommendations and in summary, management acknowledges and agrees to address or implement all of the recommendations.

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these include taking steps to ensure that each district has two representatives,

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continuing to provide more specific details on how some of the projects are beneficial

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in addressing climate change, using more differentiated colors, lines or symbols and maps

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graphs or presentations to improve accessibility, providing additional details to better explain

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the differences between the different funding sources and including highlighting and explaining

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any change in confidence levels from previous years including information in the summary chapter explaining

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the purpose and importance of long-term debt financing and finally exploring the use of a

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site paper for annual reports. I stated earlier there were no project specific recommendations

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and that brings us to today's staff recommendations for the board which are to accept the

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management response and provide any additional direction as needed on the stand-up and for questions.

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Thank you. Thank you. Questions?

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Vice chair, any?

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No, no, no, no. Okay. Okay. Any public comments?

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Thank you, Chair. There are no requests to speak at this time.

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All right. Well, thank you very much for the presentation.

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And also, thank you very much, Mr. Landrieff, for both the service and the report.

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Certainly, do appreciate all the time and effort that you and all the members put into your work.

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Thank you.

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I would like to say that.

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Yes, thank you.

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Second.

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All right, Roko.

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Director Ballard.

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Director Bell.

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Director Eisenberg.

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Director Shewak.

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Yes.

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Vice chair centers.

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Yes.

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Director Verella.

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Chair Estomer.

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Aye.

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Motion carries.

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Thank you Madam Chair.

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We move right along to 3.6, except the 2024 board advisory, I would close to the water advisory committee, environmental water resources committee.

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And the commissioners of accomplishments reports.

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We have Mr. Chair, Mr. Peter Vendite.

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Thank you. Good afternoon, Mr. Vendite.

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Good afternoon, all members of the board and you two, Chair.

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How are you today?

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Good.

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Thank you.

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My honor.

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So things must be good for you.

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Thank you.

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Yeah.

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We've made some accomplishments.

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Although we have to keep in mind that everything's in progress still because basically,

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a lot of the things that we've dealt with our informational.

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There has not been a lot of motions on certain items.

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You know, we elected the chair in 2024, which is myself and vice chair.

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And we were reelected again in January by the committee.

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And we are, we kind of approve the accomplishment report, even though there's not much to it.

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One of the accomplishments was that we,

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We moved and voted to hopefully keep aggregates down, because that's the biggest impact on agriculture

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would be taxes and the utilities that it takes to get that water on the ground, keeping in

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mind at the majority of agriculture in South County now and we are totally dependent on groundwater.

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So for us, that's one of the biggest issues that we want to make sure that this board

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and the water district itself maintains those groundwater supplies the quality and the levels as best

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if they can. We are totally dependent on groundwater.

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So one of the emotions that we voted on was to keep

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the rates frozen. If that's possible, it's just a recommendation. The board does what it wants to do.

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So that's, you know, this is long as we can keep it down for agriculture so that we can survive.

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we are the low-run of the economic ladder in this valley now, where we used to be the top-run

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when this board was formed in one of those at the 30s, I believe. So we've received a lot of

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information and reports on the master plan, the value waters, master plan. We've made comments on

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that but we have not voted on any of the recommendations. It's still informational and that's still

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progress, the one water, upper-power, water shed plan, that's all these issues are in progress,

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even though we've accomplished commenting on them and making recommendations.

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We've also discussed

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the benefits that agriculture has when it comes to mitigating climate change and carbon sequestration,

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where they only industry in the valley that has the capacity and the capability to sequester

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carbon. I don't think there's any other industry in the value. There's organizations that can help

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and there's, of course, the open space trust that help, but agriculture is going to be the key

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to sequestering carbon, because that seems to be the big issue at all the meetings I go to

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is climate change in carbon. So we've got to keep that in mind going forward when it comes

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that we've discussed most of the work we've done has been taking in information and trying to form policy recommendations to the board.

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We've worked on the work plan and I'm working very closely as the chair with Darren and Vince.

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We are trying to come up with the, first of all, we're trying to figure out how to maintain

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a form of this board since there aren't many farmers left in the county and most of them

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that are left are Asian and Hispanic.

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So there's language barriers and a lot of those folks don't want to get involved in the committee

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because they don't, they fear government.

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Let me just put it that way, you know, so they don't get involved.

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So we're Darren and Vincent I've been talking about maintaining sort of an abridged committee if that's possible if that's allowed in the charter. That's one of the plans we're discussing.

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Because I think it's very important that we have an ag water advisory committee.

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And even if it's a small one, it's very important.

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So, that's pretty much it for accomplishments other than, you know, the climate goal.

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That seems to be the big issue and Ag is going to play a very big role in that, because

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all the agencies that I deal with and all the committees and boards that I send on, the

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big pushes for climate mitigation.

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So, thank you very much for your time and I hope that helps.

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Thank you Mr. Van Dyke for your work and your report and also your service.

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Any questions for the board? Mr. Vetscher?

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Yeah, Mr. Chair, we have Director Verella.

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Yes. Director Verella?

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Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Mr. Van Dyke for coming up and giving this to you.

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Yeah, John.

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So I think as a member of the committee,

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I know, along with my colleagues, we're very committed to agriculture.

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agriculture is what this valley represents and has represented for many, many years.

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Way before we, we more from Valley of Hearts Delight to Silicon Valley and a very, very

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short period of time.

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What I see happening, what we see happening in the South County where mostly of the agriculture

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is happening, it still exists, is the two largest cities in that area both Morgan Hill.

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And the city of Gilroy are annexing property and building homes and building more residential communities.

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And that's taking away infrastructure and taking away, not infrastructure, but taking away life that are agriculture.

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So I don't think I can stop that, it's growth, it's continuing to grow.

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But we've seen exponential, I've lived in Morgan Hill 48 years. And when I moved there, there was less than 20,000 people were,

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over 150,000 people now. And Gilroy is no different. So there is an encroachment of land going towards

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development that's taken away agriculture in our communities. So, and much of this can be stopped,

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and can be avoided by attending left-go and leading left-go meetings are represented in Mr. Bell.

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It can be a spokesperson on that issue. With the ad folks, if that's something that you think is necessary

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to do, to stop this growth pattern that's happening. Other than that, it's going to continue,

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unless we can find ways for it now to continue. But from the perspective that

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aggregates, I know that we will continue, in my opinion, to support agriculture and maintain

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those rates, as long as agriculture is continuing in this region, to support your businesses as they

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are existing today. So that's a commitment from this Board of Directors.

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Thank you, John.

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I attend quite a bit of, I attend the Lafcom meetings too, and I think that what we need

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is an advocate, and I think your organization has a lot of power.

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You can advocate for us on the local level with the supervisors, the planning department and

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Lafcom.

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Has your supervisor been there for you, has that individual been there?

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not since the person attend any of your meetings?

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No. No, she doesn't. And she hasn't had staff. I've reached out to her as my position on the

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Land Trust Anna and at Loma Create a Resource Conservation District. And I have gotten no response

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with several times. So I don't think she's really interested in that. Her push is more towards

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housing and social justice type issues. No, I don't know if she realizes how important

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agriculture is especially for the what I consider the underserved communities, because they rely on

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act for jobs and at a lot of times housing. And that continues all the way into the Pahoto Valley

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the region as well with the farmers in that particular area. Mostly Latinos in that particular area have

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language barrier issues and being able to communicate their responses to that part of the region in that

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county of Monterey County area as well and Santa Cruz County. So it's a problem that we all need to be

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something he wants to say on this issue. Yeah, well, I, I, I, I attended the

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Barrow Resilience meeting yesterday, which involved Sanctuary's

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Monterey Sanctuary, Sanctuary, and, and, and we said on that, that

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she's doing, and Zoe, Dingerie was there. She, and she always attends those

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meetings. So we, we have a good relationship, but there's, there's a lot of

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issues facing the Barrow River watershed. Well, most of them, like you said,

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have to do with development. Yes. And with that development comes non-point

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source pollution and that's becoming a worse and worse and problem and also there's the issue of

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the wildlife corridors and the and the of course the encroachment and development on the

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Class A soils. Fortunately at this point, east of Giroi still has a 48-year minimum zoning that

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that could change with the leadership in the county and of course there is there is a agricultural

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farm plan that the planning department put together through Michael Mehan

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where they help with marketing and issues that involve farmers.

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The biggest problem is that there's a lot of small farmers and they're from what I consider underserved classes.

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And they're the ones that are not being represented.

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I agree.

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One of the things if I might, through the chair, you're a well aware of Sergeant Ranch in that region.

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You know that property is for sale.

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I know that properties for sale. Again, we are land trust has jurisdiction over property on the east side of that property.

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On the east side, we have land on the east side that we have easement on 388 years or so.

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And you have a piece of property on the district has a piece of the acre parcel or so that we're trying to get somebody to farm.

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Well, if there's a way that their land trust can acquire that entire property that would be under your control for future otherwise it could be a target for development.

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I don't think that will be because it's in the flood plain and I don't I don't think the county's gonna

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allow that to happen down in that area, but I don't know I don't think the land trust can

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afford to buy the easement off that property if you you know you might want to call

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Talk to our office, our executive director,

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Tena Heizner, and...

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If you want to donate any easement, we want to do a range of meetings we can talk about. I can do that. Let's do it. Okay. Any other questions? Any other questions, Mr. Vice Chair?

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Well, Tony, I might have accidentally cut somebody else someone to go to director Eisenberg.

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Director Eisenberg.

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Thank you. Mr. Van Dyke, thank you for your volunteer work.

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I have attended, as you may have noticed, I have attended every single agricultural committee meeting,

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even though I am not allowed to directly serve on it.

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As you know, I am from an agricultural state of Wisconsin and the agricultural, the farming community,

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was deeply influential on my family, my values and the culture with which in which I grew up.

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And so I also have gratitude to you for your work as a farmer, as an organic farmer, as a, you know, in a community of farmers who have been supporting each other and helping each other as farmers do, you know, through tough times and I admire your work and I'm truly grateful for us as they often say we don't need computers or cars, but we do need food. Thank you. So you sustain us.

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I also, you know, and with that said, I hear your need for an advocate and I fully agree with that.

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I wish I could be your advocate on a formal basis, you know, again, given my values enough bringing,

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but perhaps I can, but as you know, I can't because of the decisions made by my colleagues, but in the

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use these words to encourage my colleagues who have the opportunity to serve more directly

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to explore measures that you brought up regarding regenerative farming. It is a very

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big exciting field of regenerative farming practices. There are some agricultural efforts,

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communities, organizations that are starting to leverage the trillion dollars lying around in

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carbon credits, and I do think that value water can have a role in helping open up this

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flow of funds. I also hope that I can do a better job of convincing my colleagues to let

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go of some of the most financially and environmentally damaging proposed projects like the Delta

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tunnel, and like the Pacheco Dam. So that you can have lower water rates and less pollution,

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which not only would be helpful to you, but would be helpful to everyone. So again, thank you

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for your work. I deeply appreciate it. I appreciate it. Mr. Chair, let me see, is anyone else

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Jim, anybody? Well, this is real quick when I go culture chair, Van Dyke, director of a

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There's numerous times I've asked and requested and I hope you guys will hook up with the Delta

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Mandoda group. I think I'll give you more leverage. This way you can work with our government

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relations and see if we can get some bills or some support and other areas and make water

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conservation continually, which you guys do a great job. Yeah. I wish to share it back to you.

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I'm kind of motion to accept the report.

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So, there's the motion by Santos, the second by Eisenberg, director Eisenberg.

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Excuse me, Mr. Chair.

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Sorry, I have another speaker.

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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Oh, Charles, Ice from the EWRC.

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Oh, okay, sorry.

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Oh, nope.

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I'm sorry.

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Good afternoon, Chair.

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Sorry about that.

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Sorry, it's a combined agenda item.

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I know there's a lot of questions.

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Yes, I'm sorry.

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It's a very welcome.

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Thank you.

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So thank you.

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I'm going to be quick for the sake of time.

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I understand you got a lot on your agenda.

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So again, Charles, Ice, I'm the current chair,

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as well as past year's chair for the environment

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and water resources committee.

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here to present the accomplishments report, which is included in your board packets, so I'm not going to go through it again.

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I'm here to answer any questions, and I was going to ask which had already been stated by several of you already to

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please continue to appoint all your a lot, a lot of appointments that you can not only this committee, but all the committees.

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The more voices her, the better representation of better product.

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So with that, I will conclude. Thank you.

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Thank you sir. Questions? I missed the vice chair.

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Questions of comments?

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No, okay. Don't. Okay. All right. Then I'll let it take that motion.

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I'm sorry. Who was the motion?

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The second.

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It was Dr. Shua and Vice Chief.

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Okay, I believe it was Director Santas and Director Eisenberg. Yes. Motion and second. Okay, roll call.

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Okay, roll call. Director, oh, Director Baller, Director Bell, Director Eisenberg, Director Shua, yes. Vice Chair Santas? Yes. Director Verella, chair, chair.

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Hi. Motion carries. Thank you. The eyes have it will move right along to 3.7, which is to consider those committees.

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work plans and your work plans. If there are no questions, comments, I'll in the

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table of motion. So move, Santos. Yes, Director.

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Yeah. Thank you, Chair. Quick

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question on the work plan for the water commission. I just really hope that

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they'll spend the time to do some in-depth understanding of the

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water utility infrastructure, repair, and

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rebuild and how is that being a significant part of the

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water rate. So that we don't repeat the same

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cycle. Thanks, yeah. Thank you.

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Yeah, Mr. Chair, did you want to speak on this?

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Okay, thank you. Go ahead, Chair, back to you.

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Thank you. All right, I want to take the motion to accept those plans.

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So move.

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Okay, motion the second roll call, please.

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Director Baller. Director Bell. Director Eisenberg.

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3.7.

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Director Shua. Yes. Vice Chair Santos. Yes.

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Director Verella. Chair Estimera. Hi. Motion carries.

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All right, the eyes have a 3.8, Dr. Resolution Certifying the final EIR,

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for the coyote quick selection project and approve the project.

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What was that?

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What was that?

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What was that?

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You had a motion by the record for Rela, second by myself, and director Eisenberg wants a presentation.

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You recall Mr. Chair?

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Let's have a short presentation.

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Okay.

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Hi.

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All right.

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Good afternoon, Chair.

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As you may remember, so the Board, Vavani, you're put through Deputy Operating Officer

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Board of Shared Design Construction.

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I'm going to turn it over to Madhu Tubalu, who is the Engineering Unit Manager, and

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Andrew Martin, the Environmental Planer for the Project.

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There will run through slides.

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We have a very short presentation that we'll watch the project description.

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Thank you, Vavani.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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Good afternoon, Chair.

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As you may remember, so the Board.

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Good afternoon.

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capital engineering manager in the water shed design and construction division.

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We go over your previous presentation.

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We'll briefly talk about the project objectives, project area, overall schedule,

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then the AR process and the proposed board actions we're hoping to take today.

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The primary objective of this category,

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00:38:22,940 --> 00:38:28,340
flat production project is to particularly the homes, schools, businesses, and transportation infrastructure

446
00:38:28,340 --> 00:38:31,800
from a flat event equivalent to the February 27th event.

447
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:36,500
it is also referred to as a 20 year written period event.

448
00:38:38,540 --> 00:38:40,540
And here is a quick overview of the project area.

449
00:38:40,940 --> 00:38:52,140
The project is approximately 9 miles long from along the PITICREE and Tali Road being the southern limit of the project and the Montjeque Expressway.

450
00:38:52,420 --> 00:38:55,440
Up North is the northern limit of the project.

451
00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:02,580
The project was divided into two projects in response to the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission.

452
00:39:02,580 --> 00:39:08,680
also refer to as a fork 2020 order to express the construction of the tunnel at Anderson Dam.

453
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:14,420
The initial project that is tied to the forecorder is referred to as a high degree flood management

454
00:39:14,420 --> 00:39:21,700
measures project and included construction of like 8500 like linear feet of flood walls between

455
00:39:21,700 --> 00:39:28,640
old Auckland road and interstate 280. A hydraulic pressing system like referred to as a geek and

456
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:35,980
and Piler was used for installation of these flood walls to reduce the noise and vibration when we are doing the work next to the residences.

457
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:46,140
And the CITICAL FIT Protection Project, the construction is almost complete, and the staff will be coming back to the board in May for acceptance of the civil work.

458
00:39:47,500 --> 00:39:56,440
And the second phase of the project retained its original name CITICAL FIT Protection Project, and it covers approximately 60% of the original nine mile project.

459
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,980
This project is currently in design phase, staff prepared and

460
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,840
Environmental impact report for this project and is in front of the board for final certification.

461
00:40:07,470 --> 00:40:11,570
And the criteria for that protection project consists of like four types of flat protection elements.

462
00:40:12,070 --> 00:40:18,370
One is the flat walls. Two types of flat walls. One is a concrete flat wall. And then the other one is a sheep pile flat wall.

463
00:40:18,870 --> 00:40:26,570
And then the second type is the passive barriers, which lay at the ground surface. And then they'll get deployed whenever there is a flood event that triggers them.

464
00:40:26,570 --> 00:40:32,450
the third one being that emperors are embankments and the final one being the flat gates which are

465
00:40:32,450 --> 00:40:38,090
installed in the storm drain network system and so that way they can prevent the back flow

466
00:40:38,090 --> 00:40:44,750
when there is a high flow in the creek and here is a quick overview of the project schedule.

467
00:40:45,550 --> 00:40:50,910
So as I mentioned earlier, Ketic Creek flood management measures project that is up on the top

468
00:40:51,470 --> 00:40:56,610
that's almost the construction is almost complete and it is the project area is ready to handle

469
00:40:56,610 --> 00:41:00,870
any flows that are coming out of the new tunnel at the end of the end of the end of the end.

470
00:41:00,870 --> 00:41:07,010
And the CITCRIC fluid protection project, the 90% design is complete. And the construction

471
00:41:07,010 --> 00:41:13,250
is scheduled to start early to mid next year and will be completed in the before the winter of like

472
00:41:13,850 --> 00:41:20,430
2828. And this construction is also tied to the bigger end of the end of the end of the project.

473
00:41:20,790 --> 00:41:26,590
And the project needs to be complete before the stage to the different end of the end of the

474
00:41:26,590 --> 00:41:34,270
And let's take acquisitions and the permit regulatory permits coordination is ongoing and we'll be complete by end of this year.

475
00:41:36,050 --> 00:41:40,510
Now I'll hand door to Andrew Martin in environmental planner for the year process.

476
00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:42,650
Thank you.

477
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,160
Afternoon, Characters and board members, some more.

478
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:57,140
Yeah, I'm just going to give you a little rundown of the IR process for this project in November 22,

479
00:41:57,140 --> 00:42:02,380
On November 22, 2023, we circulated the notice and preparation for the draft of the IR,

480
00:42:02,580 --> 00:42:08,800
notifying the public that we were preparing in the IR. In December 6, 2023, we held a

481
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:14,780
scope meeting to present the project, identify key and environmental issues to be evaluated in the

482
00:42:14,780 --> 00:42:22,580
IR and to solicit comments from the public. At that same time, we also notified the local tribes

483
00:42:22,580 --> 00:42:30,300
of the opportunity to consult during the IR process, and then in July of 2024, we circulated

484
00:42:30,300 --> 00:42:37,420
the draft EIR for a period of 45 days, which closed on August 26, 2024. We held a public meeting

485
00:42:37,420 --> 00:42:47,680
on July 25, 2024 to indicate to people how they could comment on the EIR. And then the final EIR

486
00:42:47,680 --> 00:43:03,680
was released late last month, we received comments from three agencies and three individuals in the, in the, in the, in the final we are, we responded to all of the comments and also included revisions to the IR and the project description.

487
00:43:07,870 --> 00:43:19,350
So, for most, what the, yeah, are concluded is that for most of the resource areas impacts for either less than significant, or there was no impact, however, for some of the impacts.

488
00:43:19,590 --> 00:43:30,430
Some of the resource areas impacts needed to be mitigated to less than significant, that included biological resources, cultural resources and tribal cultural resources,

489
00:43:30,430 --> 00:43:37,390
geology, soils, and seismicity, hazardous and hazardous materials, vibration and noise and vibration,

490
00:43:38,010 --> 00:43:41,670
most of the impact related to noise and vibration and transportation and traffic.

491
00:43:45,900 --> 00:43:50,580
Daytime construction activities, including power driving and other noise generating equipment,

492
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:58,440
would have a temporary impact on people and the project vicinity, creating excessive noise levels,

493
00:43:59,380 --> 00:44:04,960
Even after all of the feasible mitigation measures are implemented to reduce that impact,

494
00:44:05,220 --> 00:44:09,040
the impact would still be significant and therefore is significant and unavoidable.

495
00:44:12,830 --> 00:44:18,410
The project team considered a variety of alternatives to proposed project.

496
00:44:18,550 --> 00:44:23,890
Most of those were considered and dismissed either because they didn't meet the project objectives.

497
00:44:24,530 --> 00:44:28,330
They would not adequately reduce the significant impacts of the project,

498
00:44:28,330 --> 00:44:30,830
or they were not technically invisible.

499
00:44:33,250 --> 00:44:35,450
It moved forward with two alternatives,

500
00:44:36,230 --> 00:44:37,390
the no project alternative,

501
00:44:38,710 --> 00:44:42,250
in which none of the project objectives would be met

502
00:44:42,250 --> 00:44:44,210
that the project would not be constructed

503
00:44:44,210 --> 00:44:47,230
and there would continue to be a flood risk

504
00:44:47,230 --> 00:44:48,610
to the community in the future.

505
00:44:49,250 --> 00:44:51,090
A second alternative that was evaluated

506
00:44:52,770 --> 00:44:55,610
involved acquiring and making enhancements

507
00:44:55,610 --> 00:44:59,970
several properties on the east side of Cairdy Creek instead of building.

508
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:09,020
In a football, however, that alternative would not meet all of the project objectives, and therefore was not the environmentally superior alternative.

509
00:45:12,650 --> 00:45:28,270
So today, you're being asked to consider the benefits, costs and the benefits of the project, the project would benefit the community by reducing flooding to homes, businesses, transportation infrastructure.

510
00:45:28,930 --> 00:45:48,490
It would also ensure that if it was completed by or to construction, prior to operation of the phase 2 diversion system for the Anderson dam, the seismic retrofit project that people would be protected from elevated flows released from the stage 2 diversion system.

511
00:45:48,490 --> 00:45:55,590
So today, you're being asked to adopt the resolution,

512
00:45:57,370 --> 00:46:01,150
certifying the IR, adopting findings of fact,

513
00:46:01,570 --> 00:46:04,030
for all the significant effects of the project,

514
00:46:04,750 --> 00:46:07,230
adopting a statement of a variety of considerations,

515
00:46:07,950 --> 00:46:12,150
finding that the benefits of the project

516
00:46:12,150 --> 00:46:15,570
outweigh the significant unavoidable noise impacts,

517
00:46:15,570 --> 00:46:26,550
And finally, adoption and mitigation monitoring reporting program that tracks all of the mitigation measures that would be implemented during project implementation and approve the project.

518
00:46:30,460 --> 00:46:32,020
I think that's about it.

519
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:33,640
I guess there's one other thing.

520
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:43,500
Staff anticipates requesting boards adoption of the final plans and specifications and authorization for obtaining construction beds at the beginning of 2026.

521
00:46:43,500 --> 00:46:51,200
and starting construction in summer of 2026. That's it. Mr. Chair, we have director Eisenberg.

522
00:46:53,990 --> 00:47:02,310
Just a couple brief questions. First, thank you for your hard work and I can know how long this has been going on.

523
00:47:02,530 --> 00:47:09,490
And that I think that many people are happy that it has received some additional progress.

524
00:47:10,450 --> 00:47:25,610
So my question really is, is that we're supposed to consider the environmental effects of this project and I saw that 120 page documents, you know, which I appreciate, you know, in our attached to this agenda.

525
00:47:26,270 --> 00:47:32,990
I'm wondering if you, well, first of all, I want to make sure that the public has an opportunity to speak. I don't know if that has happened on the other agenda item.

526
00:47:32,990 --> 00:47:34,810
And so first just putting that out there.

527
00:47:34,930 --> 00:47:37,130
Second, I'm wondering if you could summarize

528
00:47:38,370 --> 00:47:40,110
for the public and for the board,

529
00:47:40,350 --> 00:47:44,230
what the primary objections other than sound were,

530
00:47:44,970 --> 00:47:46,830
and how those were resolved.

531
00:47:47,270 --> 00:47:48,150
And I guess in particular,

532
00:47:48,410 --> 00:47:51,130
I want to understand whether there are any groups

533
00:47:51,130 --> 00:47:54,470
that are still unhappy with it,

534
00:47:54,490 --> 00:47:57,290
just to assess our risk of litigation.

535
00:47:57,490 --> 00:47:59,810
Since there's a lot of litigation against us.

536
00:48:01,890 --> 00:48:07,290
I'm going to turn it over to John and his team to respond to those individual comments or anything.

537
00:48:07,590 --> 00:48:15,170
As far as I'm aware, we do not have any outstanding comments that have not been answered or any that we have received since posting of this agenda,

538
00:48:15,430 --> 00:48:16,330
but I like John.

539
00:48:16,850 --> 00:48:17,730
I appreciate it.

540
00:48:18,190 --> 00:48:18,630
Thank you.

541
00:48:18,630 --> 00:48:19,050
Thank you.

542
00:48:19,050 --> 00:48:21,230
I specifically need to answer to their satisfaction.

543
00:48:21,950 --> 00:48:22,470
I'll then, you know.

544
00:48:23,670 --> 00:48:24,630
Thank you.

545
00:48:25,670 --> 00:48:26,330
Good afternoon, John.

546
00:48:26,410 --> 00:48:28,490
Boosh, Rod, Deputy Officer, Watershed, stewardship and planning.

547
00:48:28,850 --> 00:48:28,910
Yes.

548
00:48:29,730 --> 00:48:31,230
You know, it's a long linear project.

549
00:48:31,230 --> 00:48:34,730
So there are impacts that are unavoidable.

550
00:48:35,210 --> 00:48:37,530
There were some tree impacts that had to be.

551
00:48:37,750 --> 00:48:40,390
We tried to very hard to stay out of the recurring

552
00:48:40,390 --> 00:48:40,890
corridor.

553
00:48:41,490 --> 00:48:44,390
There were some impacts to believe of that colony

554
00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:46,610
that were Jason, and that was the main,

555
00:48:46,750 --> 00:48:49,350
the primary biological resource that was at risk,

556
00:48:49,550 --> 00:48:52,450
and that had to be mitigated for.

557
00:48:52,550 --> 00:48:53,430
How do you tell

558
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:56,380
me?

559
00:48:56,380 --> 00:48:58,420
You might need to help me with the details on that.

560
00:49:00,970 --> 00:49:03,130
Actually, it was more than one type of bat.

561
00:49:03,130 --> 00:49:09,130
It was pallid-bat, Townsend's Bigger Adbat, and Western Redbat.

562
00:49:10,950 --> 00:49:15,090
And those two-first species pallid and Bigger Townsend's

563
00:49:15,090 --> 00:49:17,290
are have a really low probability of occurrence.

564
00:49:17,830 --> 00:49:20,610
The Western Redbat has a moderate probability.

565
00:49:20,930 --> 00:49:24,810
Therefore, the mitigation for the species was to do surveys,

566
00:49:25,050 --> 00:49:27,230
habitat assessment ahead of time.

567
00:49:28,070 --> 00:49:32,650
And if necessary, do habitat modification to discourage

568
00:49:32,650 --> 00:49:40,750
roasting by bats in the project vicinity. This wouldn't occur during times when there's

569
00:49:40,750 --> 00:49:47,250
during maternity times when the bats are producing offspring or during hibernation times,

570
00:49:48,210 --> 00:49:53,770
but this will all be done under the guidance of a qualified biologist and it would all depend on

571
00:49:53,770 --> 00:49:59,530
surveys and whether or not the species were present in the project area. And the trees because of course

572
00:49:59,530 --> 00:49:59,970
We know each.

573
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,720
Given a million baby trees won't replace a mature trees?

574
00:50:04,540 --> 00:50:12,080
Well, there were, fortunately, I think, 69 trees totaled it would be impacted by this project

575
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:18,720
and right-parent area. Roughly 47, native and 22, non-native.

576
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:21,880
And, you know, typically

577
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:27,360
for impacts to right-parent habitat, there would have to be some mitigation.

578
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:34,080
that mitigation includes payment into an in-loop fee program and the Valley Habitat Plan

579
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:40,800
as well as paying tree permit fees for tree removal permit fees to the city of San Jose

580
00:50:41,420 --> 00:50:47,100
within the city of San Jose jurisdiction. And so those are some of the main ways that we're dealing

581
00:50:47,100 --> 00:50:52,160
with loss. So basically paying money in order to destroy mature trees.

582
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:01,680
Yeah, those fees go toward other habitat enhancements elsewhere.

583
00:51:02,340 --> 00:51:02,660
Right.

584
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,240
Thank you.

585
00:51:06,710 --> 00:51:10,650
Just to share that, we get John who's all the way from New Orleans.

586
00:51:13,990 --> 00:51:16,030
Anything else, Vice Chair?

587
00:51:16,630 --> 00:51:18,050
Yes, we have Director Bell.

588
00:51:18,710 --> 00:51:19,630
Director Ballard?

589
00:51:21,030 --> 00:51:24,170
I also wanted to make sure we...

590
00:51:24,170 --> 00:51:28,090
Thank you so much for the opportunity for the public to comment if there are comments.

591
00:51:28,290 --> 00:51:31,910
Typically, I'll wait until after we hear from the public to ask questions.

592
00:51:32,190 --> 00:51:35,470
Since we started the question asking process, I'll just file on.

593
00:51:36,430 --> 00:51:37,210
We do have one.

594
00:51:37,490 --> 00:51:38,230
Okay, great.

595
00:51:39,110 --> 00:51:41,110
Well, then I'd love to hear that first before I comment.

596
00:51:41,630 --> 00:51:42,030
Thank you.

597
00:51:42,030 --> 00:51:45,250
Well, after you did, Clark, it looks like we have caught you.

598
00:51:46,870 --> 00:51:49,230
Yes, we have caught you, Irvin, online to speak.

599
00:51:50,210 --> 00:51:51,450
Good afternoon, Mr. Irvin.

600
00:51:51,450 --> 00:51:56,170
Good afternoon, Chair Estomerra and members of the Board. Can you hear me?

601
00:51:57,530 --> 00:51:57,570
Yes.

602
00:51:57,890 --> 00:52:04,390
I wanted to just say that I'm really pleased that the in-create crossing will no longer occur.

603
00:52:05,610 --> 00:52:08,770
Because that will decrease the impacts a lot.

604
00:52:09,410 --> 00:52:18,990
So I'm very happy that I found the alternative solution to use the property that is on your consent calendar for purchase.

605
00:52:18,990 --> 00:52:28,230
But I'm also hoping that staff can describe how all the changes since the draft EIR has changed

606
00:52:28,230 --> 00:52:35,490
the impacts and mitigations because there have been a lot of changes since the draft EIR.

607
00:52:36,250 --> 00:52:48,870
In particular, I'm somewhat concerned about water quality and other impacts due to the

608
00:52:48,870 --> 00:52:56,330
created new creek outfalls that will be implemented with the new

609
00:52:57,370 --> 00:53:02,590
berms and I don't know if there's going to be any additional maintenance

610
00:53:03,970 --> 00:53:08,690
roads or staging areas that it kind of look like that would increase and

611
00:53:09,790 --> 00:53:16,410
there might be impacts on grading or runoff and then I'm not sure if that

612
00:53:16,410 --> 00:53:24,370
that the acquired property on Brookwood is going to be demolished, what are the impacts of that.

613
00:53:25,470 --> 00:53:32,670
The EIR, there's no changes in the EIR and the amount of excavated material,

614
00:53:33,890 --> 00:53:37,930
which seems like I have a hard time believing that.

615
00:53:38,130 --> 00:53:45,610
Just given all these changes so maybe staff could explain a little bit about the changes

616
00:53:45,610 --> 00:53:54,570
since the draft EIR and how that impacts the mitigations and impacts of the project.

617
00:53:56,150 --> 00:53:57,030
Thank you.

618
00:54:03,330 --> 00:54:04,830
Thank you for your question.

619
00:54:05,730 --> 00:54:10,670
There were some changes to the EIR or to the project description as you noted.

620
00:54:11,450 --> 00:54:14,390
Removing of the creek crossing was a significant change.

621
00:54:14,390 --> 00:54:24,470
It resulted in fewer impacts to right-parent habitat and there were no impacts to in water habitat, which was a big benefit.

622
00:54:25,230 --> 00:54:33,850
For the other changes to the project, there were changes to the configuration of flood risk reduction components.

623
00:54:33,850 --> 00:54:39,730
as you noted more firms, then had been previously planned,

624
00:54:39,890 --> 00:54:45,230
extension of a flood wall in one particular case.

625
00:54:46,430 --> 00:54:53,370
And, you know, the impacts were consistent with what was evaluated in the EIR previously.

626
00:54:53,490 --> 00:54:59,070
So there was not a significant change that required

627
00:54:59,070 --> 00:54:59,130
Good.

628
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:23,020
Additional mitigation, or that would worsen impacts the IR. So that's the long and short of it that, you know, in consideration of the additional changes to the project description in between the draft and finally IR, there were no significant new or worsened impacts because of those changes.

629
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:32,000
And I think Medio, our engineer is going to talk to the book.

630
00:55:32,180 --> 00:55:34,320
See to the book on property question.

631
00:55:35,660 --> 00:55:36,420
Thank you.

632
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,960
Regarding the Brooklyn property that's on the board agenda that's coming up next.

633
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:46,980
So initially that area, we are building like a flood wall that's like approximately 15 feet high.

634
00:55:47,380 --> 00:55:54,820
One of the issues is like that area the houses are really close by and there is no easy construction access to get to the back of these properties.

635
00:55:54,820 --> 00:56:04,200
So, this property was identified as one of the potential candidates and full acquisition was offered to the property owner and he agreed with it.

636
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:11,480
So, we are going to recommend into the board for full acquisition of this one property that's coming up next in the board agenda.

637
00:56:12,380 --> 00:56:22,320
So, and as for as like once the construction is complete, I think our real estate unit will take over and then come a bit to determine like what to do with that property.

638
00:56:27,820 --> 00:56:30,000
Thank you for the questions.

639
00:56:36,770 --> 00:56:40,130
Thank you for your questions and throughout the battle.

640
00:56:41,310 --> 00:56:42,390
Yeah, thank you.

641
00:56:44,270 --> 00:56:50,850
So I went to a few of the community meetings because part of this is in my district and that was great to see this progress.

642
00:56:51,890 --> 00:56:59,230
And then prior to this agenda, I had to reach out to several folks who live in the area that I met over the course of those community meetings just say,

643
00:56:59,230 --> 00:57:12,990
Hey, it's coming, you know, anything else you've, have you been following anything you want to say or communicate? And so I just wanted to relay and give you all a chance to comment on some of the things that you've heard from the community and incorporated and address.

644
00:57:14,310 --> 00:57:38,990
And so one of them is, one of the meetings you all, and this is my understanding of the story is, you know, around one of the parks, big park in Nagli Park, you know, it's not particularly attractive to just put a big wall up around the park, and of course the community said we don't want firms, we don't want walls, come up with something better.

645
00:57:38,990 --> 00:57:41,270
And you went to the drawing board, and you did.

646
00:57:41,370 --> 00:57:44,110
You came up with this disappearing magical wall thing.

647
00:57:44,970 --> 00:57:48,050
And I was at the community meeting where you all introduced this concept,

648
00:57:48,050 --> 00:57:50,270
and people were like, what is this?

649
00:57:50,350 --> 00:57:53,170
And there was this mixture of like,

650
00:57:56,390 --> 00:57:58,550
bafflement of skepticism.

651
00:57:59,310 --> 00:58:01,690
So I'm wondering if you could just talk a little bit about the wall,

652
00:58:01,850 --> 00:58:04,570
since it's new, this wall that's in the ground,

653
00:58:04,770 --> 00:58:06,710
when the water seeps in, it's going to pop up.

654
00:58:06,710 --> 00:58:19,230
And ways to address some of the skepticism that the community, you know, just because it's a new concept, or a new thing to the community and how we maintain it, how we make sure it's going to work when we need it.

655
00:58:19,230 --> 00:58:23,250
So that's one thing that I wanted you to just talk about because it's kind of cool.

656
00:58:24,830 --> 00:58:34,170
And then another thing is just, you all know those and it's in the documents, but you noted that there's a lot of sound and construction impacts.

657
00:58:34,170 --> 00:58:40,490
and so having that point of contact with the district or that system for when when things aren't

658
00:58:40,490 --> 00:58:47,810
going particularly well, the community has someone to be working through, and so that's great.

659
00:58:48,070 --> 00:58:53,690
It's there. And so I wanted to highlight that. And then the last thing I wanted to mention for all my

660
00:58:55,830 --> 00:59:02,530
my folks in the bike community is, and I did a search in the EIR for the word trail, and it comes

661
00:59:02,530 --> 00:59:09,730
up 147 times. Clearly all have been talking with the city of Tenoise and exploring the opportunities

662
00:59:10,850 --> 00:59:17,030
to make sure that that whole trail system gets built out and we're coordinating. So I wanted to just

663
00:59:18,050 --> 00:59:22,050
give you an opportunity to comment on those conversations as well. And that's it.

664
00:59:22,830 --> 00:59:28,930
Yep. Thank you. I think regarding the Asubarir, so there are proposed mainly around the William Street

665
00:59:28,930 --> 00:59:35,950
part and the Salmawal Inter part. So these are definitely like a new technology. It's we did use it on other

666
00:59:35,950 --> 00:59:42,890
one more value water project and they have been used quite extensively and other parts of the USA. So

667
00:59:43,410 --> 00:59:50,450
none of the, they were tested like multiple times during floods and it never failed basically. It

668
00:59:50,450 --> 00:59:58,910
worked as it was intended to. So the way it works is like basically these are all you made out of

669
00:59:58,910 --> 00:59:59,810
gets under these.

670
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,140
So, the water pressure kind of pushes the systems off. As the water level rises, this passive

671
01:00:05,140 --> 01:00:10,180
virus will also rise, but the beauty of it is like because they stay at the ground surface like

672
01:00:10,180 --> 01:00:17,180
for the rest of the year, when there is no flood, people can walk over it, drive over it, and their day to day access to the

673
01:00:17,180 --> 01:00:25,560
park will not be impacted. So, that's about the passive barriers and in case for any reason, if

674
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:30,160
don't deploy as intended. They do have a backup system which is called like hydraulic

675
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:36,140
system. All our maintenance has to do is like go there. Kind of there is a button to press it

676
01:00:36,140 --> 01:00:42,480
and you'll manually like lifting them up like that and they'll act like a flood wall. So I think we

677
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:47,540
have like a backup system in case yeah if it doesn't work as intended and that I directly system

678
01:00:47,540 --> 01:00:52,260
also helps in terms of maintenance when our maintenance crews need to maintain it before the

679
01:00:52,260 --> 01:01:01,280
and starts, they can push this button and it lets us up and clean whatever they need to do in there.

680
01:01:02,460 --> 01:01:07,700
And coming to your second comment regarding the point of contact during the construction for compliance and all that,

681
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,260
we will have a point of contact for all value order projects.

682
01:01:12,540 --> 01:01:17,540
When the construction is going on, right before the construction start, there will be a pre-concession meeting,

683
01:01:17,540 --> 01:01:23,800
and that's where we'll probably like kind of give out the number for number email address in the

684
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:28,660
name of the point of contact. So yeah, that does work and it will be on the value water project

685
01:01:28,660 --> 01:01:29,860
webpage also.

686
01:01:32,970 --> 01:01:36,550
Oh, sorry. Yeah, and the last one like regarding the city of San Jose trials.

687
01:01:36,670 --> 01:01:41,130
Yeah, there are a few locations where we do have to close the existing trial,

688
01:01:41,230 --> 01:01:45,990
like especially near that somehow we'll interpar during the construction just for public safety.

689
01:01:45,990 --> 01:01:55,970
So we are closely coordinating with the city of San Jose, PR&S like Parks and Recreational Neighborhood Services Department about these part closures.

690
01:01:56,170 --> 01:02:04,070
They are aware of it and we are already working with them like how soon we need to put out the public notices like in order to inform the public.

691
01:02:04,970 --> 01:02:12,530
And while construction is going on there will be details for the public to let them know that this AI is closed and this is how they can go around that work.

692
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:19,440
Okay.

693
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:26,600
Thank you, Director Ballad. If I can add one more thing, we just finished the other part of this project, the first part of it.

694
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:33,500
We did have that pretty extensive outreach through the neighbourhood through next door post and regular connection with the neighbourhood.

695
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:35,520
Thanks to our communications team, that's done.

696
01:02:36,420 --> 01:02:42,100
Fabulous job connecting with them. We've had one complaint so far in the two plus years of construction on that.

697
01:02:42,100 --> 01:02:47,160
Well, we're fairly confident that we've made this down on how to execute a project like this.

698
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:48,140
So close to the neighbors.

699
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:50,280
So we hope to continue with that.

700
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,480
Thank you.

701
01:02:52,860 --> 01:02:53,280
Thank you.

702
01:02:54,100 --> 01:02:54,280
Thank you.

703
01:02:54,340 --> 01:02:55,000
For the questions.

704
01:02:58,160 --> 01:02:59,040
It's about share.

705
01:02:59,860 --> 01:03:00,980
No, I'm seeing like it's okay.

706
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:01,500
Comment.

707
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:02,460
I like to make as that.

708
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:03,900
I used to work there that far.

709
01:03:03,980 --> 01:03:04,180
Awesome.

710
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,040
Seventeen Street for years.

711
01:03:06,500 --> 01:03:08,220
And to go back and see all the improvements.

712
01:03:08,580 --> 01:03:09,760
What our staff has done.

713
01:03:09,940 --> 01:03:10,900
Talking to the neighbors.

714
01:03:10,900 --> 01:03:13,980
Meet with Jeffrey here and part of the environmental committee

715
01:03:14,900 --> 01:03:22,240
Guys doing of course we have the media day a lot of good comments and the media coverage. Thank you all back to you, Chair

716
01:03:25,980 --> 01:03:26,660
Go ahead Mr.

717
01:03:32,010 --> 01:03:33,490
Chair. Tony are you there

718
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,100
are you in mute on?

719
01:03:42,420 --> 01:03:45,040
Through the chair hitting it froze for him

720
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,380
One second. It sounds like our wages in frozen

721
01:03:57,060 --> 01:04:01,620
You okay, Tom? Yes, all right. Yeah, I throw those friends from all over

722
01:04:02,180 --> 01:04:10,180
that's right back to you. All right well yeah just my comments are of course certainly appreciate

723
01:04:10,180 --> 01:04:18,120
all the staffstone on this project you know I share I share the district the this community

724
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:25,220
would direct the ballard and also with the vice chair all three of us and this has been a

725
01:04:25,220 --> 01:04:31,880
great project is moving fast the community is very happy with it so at this point I'll entertain

726
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:40,920
the motion for adopting the EIR and also approving the Cognitive Crete flood protection project.

727
01:04:44,750 --> 01:04:50,390
Yeah, we got a motion, Tom. So roll call, please. Is there a second? Yes. Okay.

728
01:04:51,290 --> 01:04:59,970
Roll call. Director Baller. Director Bell. Director Bell. Director Eisenberg. I don't feel comfortable yet. I don't like

729
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,500
Distraction of trees. All right, just vote. This is a roll call.

730
01:05:03,900 --> 01:05:17,700
I'm okay. No. Director Shua? Yes. Vice Chair Santa? Yes. Director Varella. Chair Estimera. Aye. Motion carries. Thank you. Thank you.

731
01:05:18,740 --> 01:05:28,360
We'll move right along to 3.9. What's the right distribution of the district CIP also loose?

732
01:05:35,620 --> 01:05:36,540
Good afternoon, Chair.

733
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:51,400
We have prepared a presentation that Jessica Collins can present, our business planning and analysis unit manager.

734
01:05:52,820 --> 01:05:59,600
If the board pleases, or we can go ahead and approve the CIP draft.

735
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:05,240
take questions and approve the CIP draft this clear 26th of 30. What we've prepared though

736
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:14,220
are the changes between the preliminary which you saw in January to today. Current changes.

737
01:06:18,020 --> 01:06:18,900
All right, any requests?

738
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:22,720
We've had a number of presentations.

739
01:06:24,100 --> 01:06:28,520
Yeah, yes, I'd like to see the presentation that this staff member. All right, let's just have the update.

740
01:06:33,860 --> 01:06:39,500
Thank you, Luz. Good afternoon again, Chair of Stramarine, members of the Board and please

741
01:06:39,500 --> 01:06:45,440
to be here to present the CIP draft FY206 to 35 year plan. If you haven't already received

742
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:49,800
your copy, you should have one waiting for you with the clerk at the board. Before diving in,

743
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:54,660
I just want to take a quick moment to thank the CIP team who works very hard every year to produce

744
01:06:54,660 --> 01:06:59,560
this document along with all of the capital managers who we work with very closely through the

745
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:01,500
AP Development and Delivery Process.

746
01:07:03,140 --> 01:07:07,300
Today's board's act, board actions are to review the CAP draft five-year plan and authorize

747
01:07:07,300 --> 01:07:11,640
the release of the plans to all of the cities in Santa Clara County in the land use of

748
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:16,780
authority, along with the county itself, for them to review and confirm with consistency

749
01:07:16,780 --> 01:07:18,320
with their general plans.

750
01:07:19,020 --> 01:07:23,980
In today's presentation, we will cover the annual CAP plan development, including a project

751
01:07:23,980 --> 01:07:29,260
plan update summary and overview by type of improvements, a review of how we leverage external

752
01:07:29,260 --> 01:07:33,640
funding and projects that are planned for closure, and then we'll be discussing next steps.

753
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:39,100
This slide serves as a reminder of where we're at in our annual process and how the CIP by

754
01:07:39,100 --> 01:07:44,360
annual budget and water charges are all developed together in parallel. And here we're focusing

755
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:51,300
in on the CIP development process. The board reviewed the CIP preliminary five year plan in January

756
01:07:51,300 --> 01:07:59,240
and at that meeting the board provided direction regarding key capital investments under the

757
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:03,760
and provided feedback regarding the watershed stream stewardship fund, fund 12, and the

758
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:08,440
safety and water program fund, fund 26. In response to the recommendations presented,

759
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:12,320
for funds 12 and 26, the board directed staff to hold a public hearing to consider

760
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:18,500
modifications to the safety and water program, fund 27. The public hearing was held on February

761
01:08:18,500 --> 01:08:25,200
11, 2025, and continued February 25th. And on February 25th, rather than provide direction

762
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:29,180
on the post modification during this year's CIP development cycle, the board directed

763
01:08:29,180 --> 01:08:32,460
step to hold a public hearing during next year's CIP Annual Development

764
01:08:32,460 --> 01:08:37,960
Cycle to align with the development of the CIP FY27 to 31-5-year plan.

765
01:08:38,340 --> 01:08:42,840
Based on board's direction, the San Francisco Bay Shoreline Project EA11, Project E7

766
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:47,660
under the Safety and Water Program, Project Cost increase approximately 87 million

767
01:08:47,660 --> 01:08:53,200
will results in a funding shortfall in fun 12 for fiscal years 28 through 32, and that

768
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:56,460
will be addressed during next year's CIP Annual Development Cycle.

769
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,240
In response to the Board's direction for all funds,

770
01:08:59,300 --> 01:09:03,380
staff is prepared to see IP draft five year plan for fiscal year 26 to 30.

771
01:09:03,900 --> 01:09:07,220
After the draft five year plan is authorized for release,

772
01:09:07,380 --> 01:09:10,240
we will begin our 60 day public review process,

773
01:09:10,500 --> 01:09:14,260
which includes a public hearing and outreach to the cities and counties and land use authorities.

774
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:16,400
Following this public review process,

775
01:09:16,540 --> 01:09:20,740
the final five year plan will be presented to the board for approval via a resolution on May 27.

776
01:09:21,340 --> 01:09:24,820
But the final document being prepared no later than June 30.

777
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:32,080
We'll now dive into our project plan updates from the board adopted, FY 2025 to 295-year plan.

778
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:36,800
As part of this year's annual process, there have been 54 project plan updates.

779
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,860
28 will change the schedule and cost.

780
01:09:40,340 --> 01:09:42,300
12 will change the scope schedule and cost.

781
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,740
3 projects had changes to schedule only.

782
01:09:44,980 --> 01:09:49,000
9 projects had changes to cost only and 2 projects changes to scope and cost.

783
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:55,300
And then our small capital project updates were produced for seven of our small

784
01:09:55,300 --> 01:09:56,020
cap projects.

785
01:09:56,660 --> 01:09:59,980
I did want to note that all of these changes are reflected in deep.

786
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:02,140
In

787
01:10:04,510 --> 01:10:17,550
addition to those project plan updates, we have identified additional updates that have been implemented since January 14th, which is when we were last before the board.

788
01:10:17,550 --> 01:10:25,450
This list here is also included in the attachment to and is reflected and is reflected in the draft five year plan.

789
01:10:25,710 --> 01:10:40,950
Most notable of the changes are the Anderson Dam Tunnel Project. There was a total project cost increase of approximately 42 million due to the modification and project scope and you will be receiving a full presentation on that later in today's agenda.

790
01:10:40,950 --> 01:10:43,790
And then for the Anderson dams seismic bridge of fit,

791
01:10:44,270 --> 01:10:47,050
there was a project scheduled delay by one year

792
01:10:47,050 --> 01:10:49,270
due to the FERC issued scheduled update,

793
01:10:49,730 --> 01:10:52,170
which did result in a total project cost increase

794
01:10:52,170 --> 01:10:56,350
of approximately 69 million due to inflation only.

795
01:10:56,870 --> 01:11:00,010
And that was presented to the board earlier in the year.

796
01:11:01,190 --> 01:11:03,490
In addition, we've identified the following projects

797
01:11:03,490 --> 01:11:05,490
that have potential project plan updates.

798
01:11:05,850 --> 01:11:08,430
Please note these are pending changes and not yet finalized

799
01:11:08,430 --> 01:11:11,670
and therefore they are not incorporated into the draft five year plan.

800
01:11:11,990 --> 01:11:18,190
Once they are finalized, we will be updating the document and this information will be included

801
01:11:18,190 --> 01:11:20,450
and incorporated for the May 27th Board meeting.

802
01:11:23,650 --> 01:11:27,790
Finally, following the board's direction of feedback provided on January 14th,

803
01:11:27,910 --> 01:11:31,890
include the three new projects into the draft five year plan, and those are the enterprise resource

804
01:11:31,890 --> 01:11:35,790
planning system replacement project, the CAUTI danceized mixed stability project,

805
01:11:35,830 --> 01:11:37,790
and the pipeline maintenance program.

806
01:11:37,790 --> 01:11:41,190
I will now provide an overview by type of improvement.

807
01:11:42,070 --> 01:11:48,650
The CEPFY-2630 draft five-year planning includes 76 funded projects distributed among the following categories.

808
01:11:48,870 --> 01:12:07,770
There are 43 water supply projects, totaling approximately 7.9 billion, 12 water resources stewardship projects, totaling approximately 140 million, 14 flat protection projects, totaling approximately 2.1 billion, 3 buildings and grounds projects, totaling approximately 96 million and 4 information technology projects.

809
01:12:07,770 --> 01:12:12,710
totaling approximately 70 million. Key capital investments under water supply

810
01:12:12,710 --> 01:12:15,930
including the Anderson dams that make budget for it project and particular reservoir

811
01:12:15,930 --> 01:12:18,930
expansion project along with a ranking out of water treatment plant reliability

812
01:12:18,930 --> 01:12:24,010
improvement project. For water resources stewardship we would like to highlight the

813
01:12:24,010 --> 01:12:28,510
Ojo Ponds Creek Lake separation project and under flood protection we have the

814
01:12:28,510 --> 01:12:34,290
Abriagus Creek flood protection project which is under construction and nearing its final

815
01:12:34,290 --> 01:12:39,630
phase and the Kaori Creek flood protection project for which you just adopted the EIR

816
01:12:39,630 --> 01:12:41,750
proceeding this item.

817
01:12:43,390 --> 01:12:47,670
And here you can see the valley waters prior your actuals and future year plan expenditures

818
01:12:47,670 --> 01:12:50,130
and funding are broken down by type of improvement.

819
01:12:51,090 --> 01:12:57,910
With the nearly 10.3 billion included, it does account for both received and planned

820
01:12:57,910 --> 01:13:00,610
outside funding of approximately 1.3 billion.

821
01:13:00,610 --> 01:13:05,250
includes grants from nonprofits, local public agencies, special district, state and federal

822
01:13:05,250 --> 01:13:10,630
brand agencies, states, states, and venture reimbursements and cost share partnerships, and that

823
01:13:10,630 --> 01:13:16,170
brings us to our slides on leveraging external funding. Between fiscal years 26 and 30,

824
01:13:16,370 --> 01:13:23,050
we are anticipating to receive nearly $273 million, this includes $197 million in grants and agreements,

825
01:13:23,470 --> 01:13:28,150
and $76 million in unsecured funding. This does not include the pending grant applications

826
01:13:28,150 --> 01:13:33,490
totaling approximately 100 million. Here you can see the breakdown by agency of the

827
01:13:33,490 --> 01:13:37,970
secured grants and agreements with the projects that have secured the funding. And I

828
01:13:37,970 --> 01:13:42,930
didn't want to note that appendix A of the CIP draft plan does include a complete list of

829
01:13:42,930 --> 01:13:44,590
planned capital reimbursements.

830
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,360
The two sources of funding that are planned and forecasted

831
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:54,510
but considered unsecured are the S of CJPA partnership's and grants funding, along with the S of

832
01:13:54,510 --> 01:13:58,690
I.A.A.A. 11 states of Ventionary Embrcments.

833
01:13:59,970 --> 01:14:03,870
And as referenced earlier, there are several pending grant applications totaling approximately

834
01:14:03,870 --> 01:14:08,050
100 million, securing these grants is not currently forecasted, but will help with the

835
01:14:08,050 --> 01:14:09,830
health of each respective fund.

836
01:14:11,390 --> 01:14:18,310
Moving on, we have projects planned for closure and these projects listed here will remain in

837
01:14:18,310 --> 01:14:23,970
the CIP fifth school year 26 to 35 year plan to allow for closed out reporting on fiscal year

838
01:14:23,970 --> 01:14:29,690
25 Actuals. The projects will then be removed from the CIP at boy 27 to 31 five year plan,

839
01:14:29,910 --> 01:14:34,250
unless a project plan update occurs, uh, necessitating an extension of the schedule.

840
01:14:34,930 --> 01:14:38,850
And that brings us to today's board actions. And next steps, we are asking that the board

841
01:14:38,850 --> 01:14:43,090
authorized the release of the document to all cities in Santa Clara County and the County of

842
01:14:43,090 --> 01:14:48,170
Santa Clara for a review as to consistency with their general plans. And following this, we will begin

843
01:14:48,170 --> 01:14:52,970
the 60 day public review period, which includes a public hearing before returning to the board in May

844
01:14:52,970 --> 01:14:59,650
with a resolution for approving the CIP final FY26 to 35-year plan.

845
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:08,660
Thank you, Jessica. Questions? Yes, Mr. Chair. We have to direct a relevant, followed by Director Eisenberg.

846
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:17,460
Director Verella. Thank you, Chair. So on the grants for the 273, 73 million outside grants.

847
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:23,040
Are there any federal dollars involved in that in due to the effects of the in jeopardy and nothing received?

848
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:47,500
Yes, we do have grants that are federal and here is the slide and during the January 14th meeting we did have an attachment that outlined the projects that have secured funding that has not yet been received and any unssecured federal funding as well.

849
01:15:47,500 --> 01:15:52,040
that attachment is something that we can bring back if you're interested for the final

850
01:15:52,700 --> 01:16:00,200
May item as well, but at this point we have not received to my understanding

851
01:16:00,780 --> 01:16:05,200
indication that we are specifically not receiving any of these funds and so we're proceeding

852
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:11,700
as planned at present. Okay, so I'm understanding we have not received those dollars. They're pending.

853
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:17,240
There are projects with secured funds that have not yet been received.

854
01:16:17,700 --> 01:16:22,520
Okay, so that's what I'm concerned. Yes, and those funds understand it. Do we have a dollar amount on that?

855
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:24,800
I can

856
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:30,500
See if we can get that. I think we have access to that from a prior attachment.

857
01:16:31,460 --> 01:16:36,500
Secondary, the other question is how if we do not receive those. How would that impact these overall projects?

858
01:16:37,700 --> 01:16:39,060
I think timelines that we're looking at.

859
01:16:39,060 --> 01:16:45,420
Good afternoon, Darren Taylor, Chief Financial Officer. The largest federal grant that we have is the $80 million

860
01:16:45,420 --> 01:16:47,880
from the MSCS for Upper Yagus Phase 2B.

861
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:52,360
And we are just about ready to submit our first claim

862
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:56,620
for reimbursement and what we've heard from NRCS

863
01:16:56,620 --> 01:17:02,440
is that it could take a little while to process our request.

864
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:07,660
We have not heard that receiving those reimbursements

865
01:17:07,660 --> 01:17:08,640
would be in jeopardy.

866
01:17:08,820 --> 01:17:11,380
What we've heard is that due to staffing cutbacks

867
01:17:11,380 --> 01:17:14,100
at the federal level, that it would take a little more time

868
01:17:14,100 --> 01:17:18,200
process those requests. So that's kind of where we're at with that. But the $80 million is the

869
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:24,980
biggest piece and obviously that would, you know, that is critical to getting that project done.

870
01:17:25,420 --> 01:17:28,730
Okay, thank you for those answers to those questions. Those are my questions. Thank you.

871
01:17:29,700 --> 01:17:31,080
Thank you. Thank you. The right size number.

872
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:38,400
Great questions. My first, I have three quick questions. First is to clarify. We're only

873
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:43,020
approving it to be released to the public. We're not approving it. Okay, good.

874
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:49,220
And second question is the reference to the San Frisquito Creek. Since since we

875
01:17:49,220 --> 01:17:56,660
did agree that we would discuss this later, right, the movement of funds, what specifically then

876
01:17:56,660 --> 01:18:06,740
is the change? Oh, you referring to the pending project plan updates. Yeah. So the or the

877
01:18:06,740 --> 01:18:11,640
project plan updates, I think, process between now and January 14th.

878
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:13,600
For some of the Skido Creek, there was a scheduled change.

879
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:17,560
It did result in an increase to the total project cost.

880
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:19,460
But it was due to inflation only.

881
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:21,980
I think only roughly around.

882
01:18:22,300 --> 01:18:23,640
It was 7 million.

883
01:18:24,980 --> 01:18:27,000
I think 7 million for the whole project.

884
01:18:27,380 --> 01:18:27,740
I think.

885
01:18:28,380 --> 01:18:29,080
That's correct.

886
01:18:29,220 --> 01:18:30,380
7.74 million.

887
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:31,520
And there's five participants.

888
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:34,480
So for us, it's 1 million something.

889
01:18:34,480 --> 01:18:52,380
So, okay, great. Just want to understand. And then third is, you had a slide that talked about, I think, the four or six different buckets, do you mind pulling it back up? I just want to understand what those different categories were, yeah, right before that one though.

890
01:18:52,380 --> 01:19:00,780
Okay, five different, five different buckets. So, which category is dedicated to

891
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:09,960
ecosystem, conservation and rehabilitation specifically? Well, specifically what a resources

892
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:14,620
stewardship however many of our projects are multi-benefit projects. And so they do include

893
01:19:14,620 --> 01:19:21,980
those components. Do they usually include them as mitigations or do they include them as standalone?

894
01:19:22,380 --> 01:19:29,220
I believe it can be oftentimes resulting from mitigation, but sometimes they handle them.

895
01:19:30,060 --> 01:19:42,880
So I just want to point out what a small percentage of this money is going towards ecosystem, conservation, and regeneration.

896
01:19:43,460 --> 01:19:52,780
And just my little plug for climate action, we are in a crisis right now, so I would always encourage more money spent on that.

897
01:19:52,940 --> 01:19:59,980
I mean, of course, the substance debate will happen later and you'll hear a lot about that from, you know, my, my friends.

898
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:05,000
In the environmental communities, but okay, thank you for answering those questions. I appreciate it.

899
01:20:05,380 --> 01:20:07,160
Mr. Chair, we have Director Bill.

900
01:20:07,580 --> 01:20:08,580
That would be well.

901
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:10,280
Yeah, thank you.

902
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:23,620
I wanted to find out of the projects either. Can you give me specifics about any projects for the Guadalupe River?

903
01:20:25,440 --> 01:20:32,880
The Guadalupe River Floor Protection Project is a current commitment under the Safe Clean Water and Natural Floor Protection Program.

904
01:20:33,020 --> 01:20:34,440
That project is proceeding.

905
01:20:36,220 --> 01:20:44,780
I believe with the US Army Corps of Engineers at this time, and we are waiting on our general reinvestigation that he results.

906
01:20:44,780 --> 01:21:00,920
So they're, well, well, yeah, but okay, so there's, so you're depending on Trump to get the money to us, but how, how, how, how much money is in this plan for the well of you river, that's the question I have.

907
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:03,600
How much money for this in this plan?

908
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:06,540
We're looking out now here today.

909
01:21:06,860 --> 01:21:09,040
Certainly, I can absolutely.

910
01:21:09,180 --> 01:21:11,160
I'd like to provide you with that information.

911
01:21:11,260 --> 01:21:12,680
That's a specific project.

912
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:27,800
It's a, sorry, the, well, bear with me one moment for the Guadalupe River Flood Protection Project

913
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:32,860
Interstate 280 the Blossom Hell Road that's considered Project E8 under the Safety and Water

914
01:21:32,860 --> 01:21:40,520
and Natural Flood Protection Program. The amount of funding or reaches 7 through 12,

915
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:49,700
The revised total project cost is 85.6 million inflated of that.

916
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:56,660
69.4 million roughly was expanded in prior fiscal years.

917
01:21:57,260 --> 01:22:01,920
Part of that was the acquisition of real estate needed for the project,

918
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:04,940
which is considered part of our local share moving forward,

919
01:22:04,940 --> 01:22:07,000
which was what allowed us to move forward

920
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:10,460
with that funding allocation reduction

921
01:22:10,460 --> 01:22:13,040
while still maintaining our commitment under the program.

922
01:22:14,220 --> 01:22:17,440
So how much money is in this plan?

923
01:22:18,480 --> 01:22:22,740
Five-year plan for the Guilupier River.

924
01:22:23,020 --> 01:22:24,280
So moving forward.

925
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:25,300
A particular plan.

926
01:22:25,700 --> 01:22:26,540
I am looking at.

927
01:22:26,540 --> 01:22:28,420
I'm talking about what's been spent in the past.

928
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:31,100
I'm approximately 17 million.

929
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:39,980
So, I have all the project $17 million to, well, what is that?

930
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:44,440
17 million in future years, yes. Yeah, what's that specifically for?

931
01:22:45,440 --> 01:22:51,780
And I can call on our deputy officer, Bavanna Yerapotu to speak to that.

932
01:22:56,590 --> 01:22:59,610
Thank you, Jessica. Through the sheriff, I may.

933
01:22:59,610 --> 01:23:07,630
The 17 million plus that Jessica mentioned, director Bell, is going to be for our local

934
01:23:07,630 --> 01:23:13,030
share, going forward staff costs as well for the Army Corps project that they're still

935
01:23:13,030 --> 01:23:17,570
developing their design and revised cost estimates for.

936
01:23:17,950 --> 01:23:19,710
Okay, what's the time of the Corps of Engineers?

937
01:23:24,870 --> 01:23:26,310
So, we...

938
01:23:26,310 --> 01:23:27,790
Engineering on that.

939
01:23:29,190 --> 01:23:39,870
Right now, they are asking us for a workshop to go through their revised estimates and we are hoping to have that workshop scheduled before the end of this month.

940
01:23:40,390 --> 01:23:55,790
And sometime this summer, we're hoping to get a revised benefit cost ratio as well as the updated costs for the overall project after which they'd have to go through their process to get approval for moving the project forward for.

941
01:23:56,550 --> 01:24:00,290
approval through headquarters and then move it into a design.

942
01:24:00,690 --> 01:24:12,290
Do we have a priority list that we have established for the Army Coral and Ninja's funded project?

943
01:24:15,740 --> 01:24:25,220
I mean, all of our projects in the CIP are assumed to be funded to whatever level that we have funded in there.

944
01:24:25,220 --> 01:24:35,920
So I would say the shorter project is an active project and then the Guadalupe there are only two projects that are really active Army Corps of Engineers projects in the city.

945
01:24:38,230 --> 01:24:41,830
How much is in the budget for the shoreline project?

946
01:24:43,570 --> 01:24:54,630
So as referenced earlier, shoreline EA 11 does have a approximately $87 million funding shortfall as a result of not moving forward with the recommended modification.

947
01:24:55,150 --> 01:24:58,110
that will be addressed in next year's CIT planning cycle.

948
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:24,600
At present, that project does remain under fund 12. Going back to the question on prioritization, we do have both our funding filters for prioritization that are then combined with business risk exposure scores for existing infrastructure to place all of our capital projects into one of three funding categories with category one being the highest risk category two being middle risk and category three being lower risk. Again, that attachment was provided.

949
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:29,040
based on last year's adopted CIP at the January meeting,

950
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:30,620
we can include that attachment again

951
01:25:30,620 --> 01:25:32,980
for the upcoming final board meeting in May.

952
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:37,140
So, yeah, I didn't do very much about that.

953
01:25:37,260 --> 01:25:43,120
That's interesting question, but in terms of the core of engineers,

954
01:25:44,540 --> 01:25:48,540
criteria, which they now have changed.

955
01:25:48,540 --> 01:26:08,760
But the core engineers looks at the valuation in a less way for determining criteria for the projects and that correct valuation of potential lost flow control.

956
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:11,180
Is that true?

957
01:26:13,100 --> 01:26:15,700
I'm not sure I understand the complete question.

958
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:19,320
They do have their criteria for how they evaluate the economics.

959
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:21,160
That's one interesting question.

960
01:26:21,980 --> 01:26:23,720
I want the board to know about that.

961
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:32,520
I see, we did provide an updated right and I think there was a response in last

962
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:38,300
votes memo that we included as a CEO bulletin item director, Bell, that we can refresh.

963
01:26:38,300 --> 01:26:46,500
So they do have the criteria by which they go and evaluate the economic benefits to regional

964
01:26:46,500 --> 01:26:51,760
or what they consider national economic benefits and that they had new principles and

965
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:56,180
guidelines that they have developed but the actual implementation of that is still pending

966
01:26:56,180 --> 01:27:02,120
on how they quantify non-economic benefits in other words the environmental social benefits

967
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:05,380
that they would put a dollar number to.

968
01:27:07,110 --> 01:27:10,550
At the Capital Improvement Program Committee,

969
01:27:10,550 --> 01:27:16,530
I asked that the staff looked at smaller scale,

970
01:27:18,970 --> 01:27:23,590
flood control, critical flood control projects

971
01:27:23,590 --> 01:27:25,090
on the Guadeloupe River.

972
01:27:25,090 --> 01:27:29,730
Are there any projects in this five-year plan

973
01:27:29,730 --> 01:27:35,130
for those sorts of projects, smaller scale projects

974
01:27:35,130 --> 01:27:40,970
that would not complete the full plug control that

975
01:27:45,970 --> 01:27:49,970
provides some flood control, but not the entire amount.

976
01:27:50,650 --> 01:27:53,790
Are those projects in the five-year plan here?

977
01:27:54,950 --> 01:27:59,110
I'm going to look to Chief Hakes to respond to that next

978
01:27:59,110 --> 01:28:00,090
Thank you.

979
01:28:00,090 --> 01:28:01,470
Who are you looking to?

980
01:28:01,490 --> 01:28:04,770
It takes Chief of Writing Officer for one of those projects in there.

981
01:28:05,110 --> 01:28:05,470
So currently.

982
01:28:05,570 --> 01:28:06,110
It's kind of buoyant.

983
01:28:06,250 --> 01:28:07,710
He was right on here.

984
01:28:08,430 --> 01:28:13,150
Currently we do not have any subsets of the Guadalupe Project Incorporated in the CIP committee.

985
01:28:13,570 --> 01:28:13,870
Excuse me.

986
01:28:13,950 --> 01:28:14,470
CIP plan.

987
01:28:14,790 --> 01:28:18,810
Although we are coming back to the CIP committee with an update in the July or August timeframe

988
01:28:18,810 --> 01:28:24,170
in order to discuss whether a smaller, more focused project would be something that

989
01:28:24,170 --> 01:28:25,130
the value water would be pursuing.

990
01:28:31,050 --> 01:28:31,610
Okay,

991
01:28:33,650 --> 01:28:37,090
what I get out of this is that there's no projects in the Guadalupe River.

992
01:28:37,570 --> 01:28:39,470
Okay, and I'm not happy about that.

993
01:28:39,530 --> 01:28:49,190
I think that was not what was told to us last year and I find that unacceptable.

994
01:28:51,190 --> 01:28:55,970
I think people ought to be really straight about what is going on with the Guadalupe River.

995
01:28:55,970 --> 01:29:03,190
not getting the answers. It's not fair to me as the representative of that area. It's not

996
01:29:03,190 --> 01:29:08,410
fair to the city government, which is trying to get answers on this. It's not fair to

997
01:29:08,410 --> 01:29:11,210
constituents that are trying to get answers to this.

998
01:29:13,930 --> 01:29:17,270
People would like to know, does the water

999
01:29:17,270 --> 01:29:25,370
district have any plans and is there any vote of getting flood control projects that would protect

1000
01:29:25,370 --> 01:29:29,690
all these people that are paying higher insurance, they're in danger of floods,

1001
01:29:31,390 --> 01:29:39,150
along thousands of homes along the Kuala P River and the Chibitory rivers of the Kuala P River.

1002
01:29:40,050 --> 01:29:45,970
And we would like to know the answer to that in the future hearings on the five-year budget

1003
01:29:45,970 --> 01:29:50,870
Mr. Chairman and those are my comments. Thank you. Mr. Chair, we have Director Bellard.

1004
01:29:51,630 --> 01:29:59,970
before we do that direct the bell, we can at the end of the one we usually talk about our schedule.

1005
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:08,140
We can, could you please raise that so we can include it for a, uh, uh, worst question on that.

1006
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:13,280
When we get to the schedule, the schedule in portion at the end.

1007
01:30:14,620 --> 01:30:19,440
Oh, and to I hear the answer, basically, thank you.

1008
01:30:19,900 --> 01:30:22,900
Okay, I'll start with the ballot.

1009
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:24,480
Yeah,

1010
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:44,840
I was based on Director Bell's comments I was going to ask she takes to mention that at an upcoming CIP meeting, there will be more in depth discussion on this and so you did that, thank you.

1011
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:52,420
But yeah, that's it. Go ahead, Mr. Chair, any members of the public?

1012
01:30:52,900 --> 01:30:54,200
Yeah, nice you, director.

1013
01:30:54,580 --> 01:30:57,200
Oh, director, sure. Thank you, Chair.

1014
01:30:58,140 --> 01:31:03,860
This my comment is about San Francisco Creek.

1015
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:09,800
And I think it's important to clarify for everyone that's a whole listening

1016
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:15,660
that Mr. Miss Collins earlier mentioned that the seven million dollars

1017
01:31:15,660 --> 01:31:22,400
increase to service the Skido Creek. That's based on the existing project and then the

1018
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:32,620
inflation cost increase is the $7 million. However, that existing project does not meet

1019
01:31:33,180 --> 01:31:43,420
the safely water KPI to provide 70-year flow protection and service the Skido Creek JPA has reaffirm

1020
01:31:43,420 --> 01:31:54,540
that is still, it's go to implement that project that's providing 70 years for protection,

1021
01:31:55,020 --> 01:32:05,360
was invested in CEDO Creek. So JPA is restarting what's if a project should be. And this project

1022
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:12,840
likely will be different from the project that's existing and then what's in our CEPIC.

1023
01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:15,260
So we don't know what this new project is going to be yet.

1024
01:32:15,480 --> 01:32:22,240
So I just want to clarify that within a short near future,

1025
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:26,300
likely there'll be a new custom cost estimate

1026
01:32:26,300 --> 01:32:29,940
for San Francisco Creek based on this new project

1027
01:32:29,940 --> 01:32:32,000
that's providing 70 year for protection.

1028
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:38,500
So this is $7 million increase is based on existing project,

1029
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:42,340
which likely will not be the project for San Francisco Creek.

1030
01:32:42,340 --> 01:32:50,970
Thank you. Thank you. Anything further, vice chair? No, it looks okay. Any public comments?

1031
01:32:52,190 --> 01:32:57,750
Thank you chair. We have no requests to speak. Okay. So, uh, um, anything

1032
01:32:57,750 --> 01:33:03,870
emotional to authorize release of this document? I'll make a motion to, um,

1033
01:33:04,790 --> 01:33:09,970
for to authorize release of the document to all cities, uh, and then use agencies instead of

1034
01:33:09,970 --> 01:33:12,370
county to receive feedback.

1035
01:33:12,790 --> 01:33:13,350
Click on the motion.

1036
01:33:14,450 --> 01:33:14,810
All right.

1037
01:33:15,070 --> 01:33:15,590
Roll call.

1038
01:33:19,450 --> 01:33:20,490
Director Ballard.

1039
01:33:21,110 --> 01:33:21,910
Director Bell.

1040
01:33:23,610 --> 01:33:24,730
Director Eisenberg.

1041
01:33:26,170 --> 01:33:26,850
Director Shua.

1042
01:33:28,050 --> 01:33:29,010
Vice Chair Santas.

1043
01:33:29,030 --> 01:33:29,310
Yes.

1044
01:33:29,710 --> 01:33:30,630
Director Verella.

1045
01:33:31,590 --> 01:33:32,430
Chair Estimera.

1046
01:33:33,850 --> 01:33:34,630
Motion passes.

1047
01:33:35,090 --> 01:33:35,230
Yes.

1048
01:33:35,410 --> 01:33:35,910
I have it.

1049
01:33:36,310 --> 01:33:37,210
3.10.

1050
01:33:38,110 --> 01:33:39,470
Receive the fiscal year.

1051
01:33:39,470 --> 01:33:43,290
0.25, 26 second pass by annual budget overview.

1052
01:33:54,380 --> 01:33:57,420
Mr. Chair, this is information only. Yes,

1053
01:33:58,900 --> 01:34:02,340
Baron O'Reake was.

1054
01:34:04,620 --> 01:34:07,980
Good afternoon, Chair. Mr. Minata. Yes, and Reake. Good afternoon.

1055
01:34:08,480 --> 01:34:14,100
Good afternoon, sir. Good afternoon to the board members. I'm in again, the budget manager and here with me,

1056
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:19,320
a team member of mine, Chris to reason this is a senior analyst in budget office. No, so see a full tailor.

1057
01:34:20,220 --> 01:34:26,080
So this evening, this afternoon, I'll be walking you through the second pass by annual budget update presentation as a reminder.

1058
01:34:26,480 --> 01:34:34,520
This is the second presentation of three budget presentations that will take place throughout the budget process before the formal adoption of the budget in the month of May.

1059
01:34:35,340 --> 01:34:47,140
The first pass presentation, which took place on January 25th was a high level budget summary consistent with the information provided to the board during the work study sessions on the CIT and the groundwater production charges on January 9.

1060
01:34:47,140 --> 01:34:52,100
The second pass presentation brings forth updated budget assumptions along with an attachment

1061
01:34:52,100 --> 01:34:57,780
that includes all budget retail pages for operations and the projects.

1062
01:34:58,440 --> 01:34:59,860
Any direction they provide today?

1063
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:04,680
We'll be including the third pass of our budget and share with the budget on the board during the worst

1064
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:09,580
stations in late April. With that in mind, these are the topics that we'll cover during today's

1065
01:35:09,580 --> 01:35:10,220
presentation.

1066
01:35:14,910 --> 01:35:18,190
I'd like to refer you to the top portion of the slide. These are the dates for the

1067
01:35:18,190 --> 01:35:23,870
fiscal year 26 final budget updates that we have, or we'll be presenting to the board. The proposed

1068
01:35:23,870 --> 01:35:29,310
budget will be complemented by the boardwork, study sessions towards the end of April, which will

1069
01:35:29,310 --> 01:35:33,970
very thorough. We can see that we're on track to adopt the budget at the end of May.

1070
01:35:37,460 --> 01:35:42,240
So we'll start off with the revenue assumptions. We have a total of water charge revenue of $423.3 million

1071
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:49,460
in fiscal year 26 and $477.000 in fiscal year 27. The revenue assumptions include the water rate,

1072
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:54,360
the water rates here and the usage highlight on the slide, which aligns with the information provided

1073
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:58,600
to the board during the first pass. As mentioned in the first pass presentation,

1074
01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:04,060
the one percent that below in property tax receipts assumption is based on the growth rate

1075
01:36:04,060 --> 01:36:09,000
growth rates forecast in the most recent SoneClarer County assessors report. The state clean

1076
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:14,880
water special parcel tax assumptions currently assume a 2% increase but maybe adjusted based on the

1077
01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:22,760
Bay Area CPI index. In total we are budgeting 744 million dollars in fiscal year 26 and 766.2 million

1078
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:28,580
dollars in fiscal year 27. The 48.8 million dollar increase in fiscal year 26 versus fiscal

1079
01:36:28,580 --> 01:36:31,380
you're 25, primarily driven by three things.

1080
01:36:31,700 --> 01:36:34,200
The water charges capital reimbursement assumptions

1081
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:36,240
and also the property tax receipt of assumptions.

1082
01:36:39,580 --> 01:36:41,500
In terms of district-wide highways,

1083
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:44,440
we include the operating costs, the debt service,

1084
01:36:44,540 --> 01:36:47,160
and the capital projects, operating projects,

1085
01:36:47,220 --> 01:36:50,160
funding is up $23.5 million in fiscal year $26

1086
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:52,520
over the prior year, and capital projects,

1087
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:55,580
funding is up $46.9 million, that's

1088
01:36:55,580 --> 01:36:56,400
good for the prior year.

1089
01:36:57,180 --> 01:36:59,040
Project costs, you talk pages, as I mentioned,

1090
01:36:59,220 --> 01:37:00,280
are aligned with the operating

1091
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:05,380
and that service outweighs on this slide and they're quite as as attachment to this board

1092
01:37:05,380 --> 01:37:10,140
agenda item for your reference. Additionally, the capital outweighs funding align with the

1093
01:37:10,140 --> 01:37:14,540
cap one from a program that was presented to a board on February 25th.

1094
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:17,700
The slide six shows these

1095
01:37:17,700 --> 01:37:22,540
salaries and benefits in a tabular format with total salaries, relatively flat in fiscal year 26

1096
01:37:22,540 --> 01:37:28,120
that's compared to fiscal year 25, which assumes a decrease of regular positions from 921 positions

1097
01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:34,880
to 876 positions. As compared to the first pass, these costs now include five release frozen

1098
01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:39,760
positions in fiscal year 26, which have been proposed by senior management to address various

1099
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:46,100
workload priorities and help with achieve outcomes and projects. In summary, total salaries

1100
01:37:46,100 --> 01:37:51,140
expense remain relatively flat in fiscal year 26, primarily due to the hiring freeze,

1101
01:37:51,620 --> 01:37:57,920
only increasing by 0.4 million dollars, and total benefits cost is up by 3.9 million dollars

1102
01:37:57,920 --> 01:38:01,660
and fiscal year 26 did to the various benefits that are listed here on the slide.

1103
01:38:02,480 --> 01:38:07,100
In summary, the total salaries and benefits cost increased by $4.3 million in fiscal year

1104
01:38:07,100 --> 01:38:10,840
26, assuming a decrease of 45 frozen positions.

1105
01:38:14,980 --> 01:38:19,080
Understable, the slide shows the total position increase from the first pass to the second

1106
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:20,640
pass on the right hand side.

1107
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:25,920
It illustrates the five release frozen positions, which increases a budget head count from

1108
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:32,340
871 to 876 positions in fiscal year 26, the release positions will benefit the administrative

1109
01:38:32,340 --> 01:38:35,560
services, water utility and the watershed divisions.

1110
01:38:39,230 --> 01:38:43,490
Slide 8 shows a breakdown of the operating expenditures by fund, along with the variances,

1111
01:38:43,850 --> 01:38:49,790
in total $531.8 million in fiscal year 26, it's an increase of $7.6 million versus fiscal

1112
01:38:49,790 --> 01:38:53,150
year 25, or 1.4%.

1113
01:38:53,150 --> 01:38:57,970
The fiscal year 26 operating expenses increase was minimized by the impact of the frozen

1114
01:38:57,970 --> 01:39:03,310
positions as compared to fiscal year 25. As indicated on the slide, the general fund now includes

1115
01:39:03,310 --> 01:39:08,650
the funding for the water rate assistance program to the tune of $1.3 million per year for

1116
01:39:08,650 --> 01:39:10,630
both fiscal year 26 and fiscal year 27.

1117
01:39:16,260 --> 01:39:18,680
This slide shows the capital expenditures by fund in fiscal

1118
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:24,840
year 26 at least, or $1.11.7 million for capital projects that are aligned with the CIP presentation

1119
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:29,320
provided to the board on the very 25th. As we know, capital expenditures vary,

1120
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:33,420
noticeably year or year due to construction schedules of such projects.

1121
01:39:34,020 --> 01:39:38,260
Not also both on the balances for the capital projects are noted on the slide and have been

1122
01:39:38,260 --> 01:39:41,380
previously discussed as part of the various draft safety presentations.

1123
01:39:42,460 --> 01:39:46,420
Major capital provisions are detailed on slide 20 in the appendix for your reference.

1124
01:39:49,400 --> 01:39:54,340
In terms of estimated fiscal year 26 reserve balances recurrently estimating to end the fiscal year 26

1125
01:39:54,340 --> 01:39:59,960
at $550.9 million or $52.7 million lower than the fiscal year.

1126
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:06,040
225 projected estimate. As you are aware, fiscal year 26 estimates are based on projections for revenue,

1127
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:13,480
our various financing assumptions and operating account books, benatures that have been discussed with the board during today's meeting.

1128
01:40:14,380 --> 01:40:22,340
Objectives for our financial planning are to ensure that we have sufficient resources for our current services and obligations and to prepare for future anticipated funding requirements,

1129
01:40:22,340 --> 01:40:24,280
and any unforeseen events.

1130
01:40:24,980 --> 01:40:25,820
To meet these objectives,

1131
01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:27,920
Valley Water will strive to have sufficient

1132
01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:29,920
funding available to meet its current

1133
01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:32,500
and future operating capital obligations

1134
01:40:32,500 --> 01:40:34,780
along with the debt service cost obligations.

1135
01:40:37,290 --> 01:40:40,830
To conclude, the next steps will be

1136
01:40:40,830 --> 01:40:43,730
an April 23rd for the budget work study session

1137
01:40:43,730 --> 01:40:46,510
and where each division will provide a very detailed overview

1138
01:40:46,510 --> 01:40:49,210
of their fiscal year 26 budget and their outlook.

1139
01:40:49,890 --> 01:40:52,570
In the appendix, you may find a detailed historical budget

1140
01:40:52,570 --> 01:40:57,110
information to provide you with the additional context for the fiscal year 26 proposed budget.

1141
01:40:57,710 --> 01:41:00,730
This is the end of the second post presentation and we're ready for any questions.

1142
01:41:02,790 --> 01:41:03,190
Questions?

1143
01:41:05,500 --> 01:41:06,040
What's the advice here?

1144
01:41:06,700 --> 01:41:08,640
Mr. Chair, we have Director of Reload.

1145
01:41:09,480 --> 01:41:10,160
Director of Reload.

1146
01:41:11,340 --> 01:41:14,160
Thank you, Chair. Yes, I'm going to ask you the same question.

1147
01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:20,600
I ask previously on a presentation on the current cutbacks that are coming through the federal government

1148
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:27,660
that are affecting many public agencies on your forecasts here, are you looking at potentially

1149
01:41:27,660 --> 01:41:33,340
having an impact on our estimated revenue streams due to the cutback to the coming potentially

1150
01:41:33,340 --> 01:41:37,380
coming to us? Are you looking at that? And if so, how are you looking at that?

1151
01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:44,740
Thank you, Director. Vrala, to answer your question, we're not assuming that there's going to be any

1152
01:41:44,740 --> 01:41:51,720
reduction to revenue streams. I think we talked about the $80 million grant for from NRCS for the

1153
01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:53,240
for your office phase 2B project.

1154
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:56,340
We're not anticipating that that grant would be eliminated.

1155
01:41:57,260 --> 01:41:59,040
So we're proceeding forward with assuming

1156
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:00,760
that that grant is going to happen.

1157
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:04,500
Other impacts that are out there.

1158
01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:06,400
We've obviously got federal loans.

1159
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:09,780
We've got with field loans for Anderson Dam,

1160
01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:12,880
seismic retrofit, the Pacheco Reservoir expansion

1161
01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:16,040
project, as well as a couple of flood protection

1162
01:42:16,040 --> 01:42:18,260
projects under the Safe Clean Water Program.

1163
01:42:18,260 --> 01:42:29,400
We were successful in getting our first drawdowns on the Anderson loan and on the safe clean water loan in February, so just a couple of weeks ago.

1164
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:33,100
And so we believe that those loans are solid.

1165
01:42:33,340 --> 01:42:41,540
We have not heard anything with regard to, you know, a change as it relates to existing inhand loans.

1166
01:42:41,540 --> 01:42:47,020
We are still working on a couple of loans, federal loans,

1167
01:42:47,560 --> 01:42:50,400
a dam safety program loan on the core with the program.

1168
01:42:50,980 --> 01:42:54,500
We have not heard that there's anything changing with regard to that.

1169
01:42:54,580 --> 01:42:56,340
We're moving forward with submitting the application.

1170
01:42:57,140 --> 01:43:02,200
We are likely going to submit that application for that loan in late March or early April.

1171
01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:04,800
And we are working on our second LOI.

1172
01:43:05,380 --> 01:43:10,180
We are working on the application for the second loan as it relates to Anderson.

1173
01:43:10,180 --> 01:43:24,640
And, and so again, we're looking at submitting that application in late March or early April, again, we haven't heard anything that things have been derailed as far as moving forward on on on those two loans.

1174
01:43:25,780 --> 01:43:31,620
So so with that, I would say that in general, we're moving forward. We're not anticipating any

1175
01:43:32,700 --> 01:43:37,740
You know, negative consequences from what's going on at the federal level with our budget as it stands today.

1176
01:43:38,340 --> 01:43:42,620
So when you say we haven't heard, who would you be hearing that from?

1177
01:43:43,620 --> 01:43:46,120
What federal agency would you be hearing that from?

1178
01:43:46,300 --> 01:43:46,760
Sure, sure.

1179
01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:56,100
So with regard to WIFI alone to be the EPA, with regard to the 80 million dollar loan.

1180
01:43:56,100 --> 01:43:58,700
for the opportunity to be at the NRCS.

1181
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:01,160
Okay, thank you for that, appreciate it.

1182
01:44:01,300 --> 01:44:02,680
Chair, we have Director Bill,

1183
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:04,600
followed by Director Eisenhower.

1184
01:44:04,980 --> 01:44:05,480
Director Bill?

1185
01:44:07,340 --> 01:44:09,980
Okay, okay,

1186
01:44:13,480 --> 01:44:18,620
North County zone two water charge

1187
01:44:18,620 --> 01:44:20,860
increase of 9.9.

1188
01:44:23,500 --> 01:44:34,860
What kind of assumptions are made regarding that, regarding holding the line on the cost of the scope of our projects?

1189
01:44:35,380 --> 01:44:40,400
Are we assuming an inflation for the projects?

1190
01:44:41,180 --> 01:44:46,080
Is that 9.9 continued in the future years?

1191
01:44:48,060 --> 01:44:57,780
What kind of inflation and project scope controls are we imposing to make sure that doesn't go higher than that?

1192
01:45:00,940 --> 01:45:25,320
Yes, you're correct. With regard to the W2, the water rate projection is 9.9% for FY26, and that 9.9% increase continues for the next eight or nine years after that to pay for the CIP, the Water Utility CIP, which is consistent with what the board just saw from the last presentation, the draft CIP there.

1193
01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:31,460
And there are inflations, assumptions included in that and that's baked into the water rate model.

1194
01:45:32,380 --> 01:45:37,460
The inflationary assumptions range from 5% to 7% per year, as we look forward.

1195
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:40,720
So that's what these assumptions we have in there. 5% to 7% per year.

1196
01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:53,820
getting a copy of what the inflation by the year you're projecting is so we can see how that applies to these projects.

1197
01:45:54,520 --> 01:46:06,660
I would like to know also if in designing the projects are there scope changes or they identified in terms of increasing the cost of projects.

1198
01:46:07,620 --> 01:46:24,340
The design changes could be the cost of land improvement, engineering goes up, project delays, those kinds of things cause a project cost to go up.

1199
01:46:24,340 --> 01:46:31,340
And I like to know what assumptions are made regarding those issues when you estimate the 9.9.

1200
01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:35,600
I don't like to tell people what you're rating Chris going to be 9.9.

1201
01:46:35,940 --> 01:46:37,060
Then we say, well, never mind.

1202
01:46:37,260 --> 01:46:43,220
It went up and we have all these other reasons why it's going up because of the project foster going.

1203
01:46:44,180 --> 01:46:45,280
So I would like to know.

1204
01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:48,780
I mean, I think it's fair to ask,

1205
01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:54,980
because frankly, crossing crease is one of the big problems

1206
01:46:54,980 --> 01:46:55,940
of this agency.

1207
01:46:57,600 --> 01:47:00,620
We haven't been able to have a consistent,

1208
01:47:01,560 --> 01:47:02,700
crossed level.

1209
01:47:04,420 --> 01:47:08,340
I would like to just make my statement please.

1210
01:47:08,820 --> 01:47:11,980
I would like to know, get that information to me.

1211
01:47:12,180 --> 01:47:13,440
So I would have that.

1212
01:47:13,440 --> 01:47:18,100
So I can tell my constituents what assumptions are in this budget

1213
01:47:19,100 --> 01:47:24,120
Yeah, thank you. And if I could just kind of respond to the first part the inflation assumptions

1214
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:29,220
That's going to be that is in the five-year plan and we can also bring that back

1215
01:47:29,220 --> 01:47:32,760
One of the things that I'd like to do is capture questions and bring it back to the budget

1216
01:47:32,760 --> 01:47:34,020
What's that session and April?

1217
01:47:34,860 --> 01:47:43,200
Yep, come later. I'll be I'm not going anymore. Okay. Got you on that and then with regard to your second question on I'm gonna ask

1218
01:47:43,440 --> 01:47:47,700
Jessica Collins to kind of help answer that question that the second part of your question.

1219
01:47:48,020 --> 01:47:52,700
Thank you, Darren. Can you guys, can you hear me? Okay. Okay. All right. So,

1220
01:47:53,600 --> 01:47:57,240
changes to scope schedule and cost are reviewed every single year with all capital

1221
01:47:57,240 --> 01:48:02,340
project managers, our team meets with them. Any updates to scope schedule or cost are

1222
01:48:02,340 --> 01:48:07,760
tracked and documented via change management memos. And then that information is provided to

1223
01:48:07,760 --> 01:48:12,600
both the CIP committee and the board. It was included in our last board item as attachment to

1224
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:26,740
It's a summary of all changes, so that's something that we share in a very transparent way with the board in the public and all of those changes are what feed into the water charge of water resetting process every year.

1225
01:48:27,280 --> 01:48:30,280
Yeah, so what is the way you go about.

1226
01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:38,760
When we have like a budget and then we say it's going to be 9.9.

1227
01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:48,420
And then there's crossing breeze, you might give us a list but then how does that translate to higher rates?

1228
01:48:48,900 --> 01:48:51,260
How do we know we don't see that?

1229
01:48:52,420 --> 01:48:55,700
So I think not the time to ask that question.

1230
01:48:56,700 --> 01:49:00,560
It's not during the couple of budget times during the budget time in my opinion.

1231
01:49:00,740 --> 01:49:07,200
So I can look at how you view these things in terms of performance

1232
01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:12,320
in terms of the budget. So I would like some answers on that if you could give me back to the answers.

1233
01:49:12,700 --> 01:49:14,320
I appreciate it. Thank you.

1234
01:49:18,500 --> 01:49:19,720
Okay. Have a nice number.

1235
01:49:22,170 --> 01:49:26,150
Thank you so much. So I incorporate my reference.

1236
01:49:26,150 --> 01:49:34,270
By reference my request that we spend more money on ecosystem protection and rehabilitation.

1237
01:49:34,830 --> 01:49:40,510
With a notation also that when you spend money in ecosystem protection and rehabilitation,

1238
01:49:40,510 --> 01:49:50,770
you also mitigate flood risk, fire risk, and you help farmers, as along with many other positive benefits.

1239
01:49:51,390 --> 01:49:58,210
So that is pretty much the biggest bang for the block is ecosystem, conservation, and rehabilitation.

1240
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:21,740
I also would like to see in the next version, and we've discussed this before and direct about kind of hit on some of this too, is it, you know, it's kind of funny that you mentioned we hear from the EPA, while our president and his buddy Elon Musk have been planning on destroying the EPA.

1241
01:50:21,740 --> 01:50:41,940
So, now, when it comes to these withy-alones, I could see how maybe they would hold onto them because if the borrower ultimately can pay, and that's a big if they are extremely profitable to the federal government and extremely expensive to the borrower.

1242
01:50:42,960 --> 01:51:07,500
And, you know, that's because, as you know, a 5% interest rate with a whiffy alone due to the 30 year, you know, beginning of the repayment schedule results in and the interest compounding on every single year that goes by by the time you start paying the stuff back, you've compounded 30 years of interest.

1243
01:51:07,500 --> 01:51:18,400
So you're paying back in our case more than three times the amount that you've borrowed so these aren't really ideal for anyone in my opinion.

1244
01:51:18,680 --> 01:51:35,620
So what I keep asking and I'd love to repeat is can we please look for alternative funding methods, then these with your loans and if we can't find any other alternative funding methods, maybe those projects do not belong in the budget.

1245
01:51:35,620 --> 01:51:44,200
because we need to be serious about our projects and if you look at the termination rights

1246
01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:51,860
of the federal government in those wifia loans, if we default meaning even delaying the project,

1247
01:51:52,600 --> 01:51:58,460
they can actually accelerate meaning calling and full, not just the loan for that project,

1248
01:51:59,040 --> 01:52:02,080
but for every project. That's actually in the loan agreement.

1249
01:52:02,080 --> 01:52:09,300
So anyway, the bomb line is, I really think we need to prioritize projects that are more financially sustainable.

1250
01:52:10,320 --> 01:52:17,660
And then finally, I'm still kind of hung up on that number of independent contractors in the hiring freeze.

1251
01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:19,700
I just can't get past that.

1252
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:29,700
You know, at an earlier meeting, when I did ask for, and I know Director Bell has asked for a lot of this too, you know, for actual financial cost of hiring,

1253
01:52:29,700 --> 01:52:37,500
the independent contractors, it didn't, I wasn't convinced that there's any cost savings

1254
01:52:38,080 --> 01:52:44,520
to hiring independent contractors. So here we are in what is considered by many to be among

1255
01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:51,600
the worst job markets in recent history for job seekers.

1256
01:52:53,660 --> 01:52:55,860
There are a lot of really qualified people

1257
01:52:55,860 --> 01:53:03,520
looking for jobs, additionally with the federal layoffs, there are even more qualified people looking

1258
01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:09,680
for jobs. I fundamentally believe it's our legal obligation as well as our ethical obligation

1259
01:53:10,330 --> 01:53:19,300
to hire full-time employees. Absolutely, it's not possible. And I when our ethical obligations

1260
01:53:19,300 --> 01:53:25,450
of lines with what's in the best interest of the district as would happen in this case.

1261
01:53:26,580 --> 01:53:35,200
I continue to push for a budget that has more permanent employees and fewer independent contractors.

1262
01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:36,540
Thank you for considering.

1263
01:53:38,760 --> 01:53:43,750
So, my share next. Well, Mr. Chair, I would imagine our staff will give

1264
01:53:43,750 --> 01:53:49,550
or Bell, a bit of explanation that I just got to receive from Blue Shield and PG&E on their

1265
01:53:49,550 --> 01:53:50,070
increase.

1266
01:53:51,850 --> 01:53:53,570
So, nobody else go ahead, Mr. Chair.

1267
01:53:55,150 --> 01:53:55,430
All right.

1268
01:53:55,610 --> 01:53:57,790
That was the information item.

1269
01:53:58,430 --> 01:54:06,450
So, let's go to our consent calendar next four, item four, and then after that, we will take

1270
01:54:06,450 --> 01:54:13,250
ten minutes recess. So I'll entertain the motion to approve the consent calendar.

1271
01:54:14,390 --> 01:54:19,650
Second. Second. Second. Okay. Motion is second. We have a roll call, please.

1272
01:54:20,670 --> 01:54:28,050
Director Baller. Director Bell. Director Eisenberg. Director Sheila. Yes. Vice chair

1273
01:54:28,050 --> 01:54:31,710
Yes. Director of Aurella, Chair and Srimara.

1274
01:54:32,590 --> 01:54:47,050
I motion passes. Okay, the ice have it. So, let's take a 10 minute recess. Let's see. We'll come back at the five, come back at the three minutes after three,

1275
01:54:50,120 --> 01:54:51,460
slightly 10 minutes.

1276
01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:44,960
Mr. Chair, is prior to going on. There's a Deborah Goldine wants to speak on 5.2 because she has to leave with your permission. Can we get her to say a few words before she has to leave?

1277
01:56:45,860 --> 01:56:48,840
Well, let me public comment.

1278
01:56:51,980 --> 01:56:53,700
Let me just give you a head of time.

1279
01:56:55,540 --> 01:56:57,600
All right. The director's all back?

1280
01:57:01,980 --> 01:57:03,100
Everybody's here Mr. Chair.

1281
01:57:03,500 --> 01:57:03,720
All right.

1282
01:57:03,980 --> 01:57:04,720
Good. Thanks.

1283
01:57:05,380 --> 01:57:08,380
All right. We'll have Miss Messing address us.

1284
01:57:09,750 --> 01:57:11,350
This is Deborah Golden here.

1285
01:57:11,630 --> 01:57:12,070
Miss Golden.

1286
01:57:12,950 --> 01:57:13,450
Go ahead Tony.

1287
01:57:16,730 --> 01:57:17,410
Yes, Miss Golden.

1288
01:57:19,090 --> 01:57:20,570
Thank you for hearing me.

1289
01:57:20,630 --> 01:57:22,890
I have to be in back in Palo Alto at four.

1290
01:57:24,570 --> 01:57:24,850
Yeah.

1291
01:57:25,130 --> 01:57:31,850
So it was came as news to me that you could actually have a complaint against a board member.

1292
01:57:31,850 --> 01:57:38,210
bought and put on a agenda, and if I had known that, I would have done that years ago.

1293
01:57:39,370 --> 01:57:44,170
I have some very serious concerns with some of the ethical behavior, and I've been

1294
01:57:44,170 --> 01:57:48,650
watching this board closely for about four years because of that.

1295
01:57:50,250 --> 01:57:57,090
So I just want to say that I hope when I bring my complaint against a particular board member,

1296
01:57:57,090 --> 01:58:03,630
who will not be Rebecca Eisenberg to this board that it also gets put on the agenda and

1297
01:58:03,630 --> 01:58:09,630
considered with the same gravity that Peter sends complaint has been considered.

1298
01:58:13,010 --> 01:58:19,530
And before you consider Mr. Peterson's complaint, I would like the board to investigate.

1299
01:58:19,670 --> 01:58:26,890
I mean, before you act on it, I would like to know what Mr. Peter sends connections to

1300
01:58:26,890 --> 01:58:33,630
Jacob Dam Projector, I suspect he has a vested interest in that project, because at the end of his

1301
01:58:33,630 --> 01:58:40,270
letter, he puts in, he says that the particular, stop, put Jacob Dam is a well-funded organization.

1302
01:58:41,610 --> 01:58:45,190
I mean, I almost spit out my coffee when I heard that because it's like,

1303
01:58:45,250 --> 01:58:51,770
I'm, no, it's not. So, you know, he is excoreating Ms. and his letter, Ms. Eisenberg,

1304
01:58:51,770 --> 01:58:59,230
for being dishonest and he lists a number of, he has a long list of allegations, and he's

1305
01:58:59,230 --> 01:59:05,250
being dishonest dishonest in a way that's provable. Here, so before you take his allegations

1306
01:59:05,250 --> 01:59:11,210
seriously, I think it requires some due diligence to, for him to provide evidence support,

1307
01:59:11,210 --> 01:59:12,250
his allegations.

1308
01:59:14,550 --> 01:59:25,930
And yeah, I'm also concerned that this was put on the agenda as a sort

1309
01:59:25,930 --> 01:59:33,990
of a payback and I don't know. It was put on as a personal, there was a personal motive in

1310
01:59:33,990 --> 01:59:40,650
putting this on the agenda. So when I come with my complaint forward, if it is accepted or rejected,

1311
01:59:40,650 --> 01:59:45,650
I guess I will have confirmation of that suspicion. Thank you for your time.

1312
01:59:46,210 --> 01:59:54,300
Thank you. All right, with respect to respect to 5.2, this is the process

1313
01:59:55,020 --> 01:59:59,960
that we have. When there's a complaint, I guess the board member, it doesn't matter who it is or what it

1314
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:06,180
It is and whatever the story is, whatever that complaint is, this is what the policy is.

1315
02:00:06,420 --> 02:00:13,520
So just following the policy, which is to have the board have the chair deal with the complaint.

1316
02:00:14,200 --> 02:00:19,860
I don't have not gone any way other than to receive the complaint and not going to do anything

1317
02:00:19,860 --> 02:00:23,860
until the board assigns me to handle the complaint. That's the way the policy works.

1318
02:00:23,860 --> 02:00:28,300
with every complaint against a board member from a member of the public.

1319
02:00:28,680 --> 02:00:31,200
That's what our policy says and that's all following today.

1320
02:00:31,680 --> 02:00:33,060
That's why it's here.

1321
02:00:33,700 --> 02:00:37,140
So I'd entertain a motion to that effect.

1322
02:00:38,080 --> 02:00:38,640
So move.

1323
02:00:40,760 --> 02:00:41,300
There's second.

1324
02:00:41,660 --> 02:00:42,840
Can you clarify?

1325
02:00:43,920 --> 02:00:46,040
I already clarified it.

1326
02:00:46,280 --> 02:00:48,740
That's what the policy says.

1327
02:00:50,980 --> 02:00:51,820
Mr. Chair.

1328
02:00:55,840 --> 02:01:03,040
We're not on five two. Tony is just responding to the complaint by the complaint of the last person. That's all.

1329
02:01:03,200 --> 02:01:05,180
We'll come back to that. Go ahead, Tony.

1330
02:01:05,740 --> 02:01:07,760
Yeah. Okay. So back to five point one.

1331
02:01:08,160 --> 02:01:09,700
On five point one.

1332
02:01:10,920 --> 02:01:17,160
This one was a request that was made by Director Eisenberg who raised this issue.

1333
02:01:17,740 --> 02:01:19,920
I responded to it along with that.

1334
02:01:19,920 --> 02:01:31,520
the Shua. And we said that these policies from the committee would to have come to the board,

1335
02:01:31,820 --> 02:01:39,620
but we realized that it already came to the board. And so I put this on so that we asked the board

1336
02:01:39,620 --> 02:01:44,840
to refer this issue to the committee, and then of course the committee would deal with whether

1337
02:01:44,840 --> 02:01:48,780
There should be a policy or not, or what it is, and make a recommendation to the board

1338
02:01:48,780 --> 02:01:49,900
to that effect.

1339
02:01:50,200 --> 02:01:54,520
Also, direct the battle to also inquire regarding this.

1340
02:01:56,420 --> 02:01:59,140
Mr. Chair, we have director Eisenberg, would you like to speak?

1341
02:01:59,700 --> 02:01:59,900
Yes, sir.

1342
02:02:00,240 --> 02:02:00,460
Eisenberg?

1343
02:02:01,180 --> 02:02:10,740
I need to be very clear that I never advocated for any old complaint, especially an ad hominom complaint,

1344
02:02:10,740 --> 02:02:16,760
which, as you know, is a Latin term for personal attacks,

1345
02:02:17,520 --> 02:02:20,500
I'd never would have or did advocate

1346
02:02:20,500 --> 02:02:24,540
for every complaint made by any individual

1347
02:02:24,540 --> 02:02:26,320
to be put on the agenda

1348
02:02:26,320 --> 02:02:29,880
because we would be having a lot of agenda items

1349
02:02:29,880 --> 02:02:32,520
about every single one of these board members

1350
02:02:32,520 --> 02:02:35,820
and not just me. This is an unprecedented agreement.

1351
02:02:35,840 --> 02:02:37,180
That's what the policy says.

1352
02:02:37,180 --> 02:02:46,620
Okay, that is what the newly changed policy you just created in the board policy and

1353
02:02:46,620 --> 02:02:52,860
clinic commission. So we need to be committee. So we need to be very clear. This policy did

1354
02:02:52,860 --> 02:03:02,880
not exist until you recently made it in a committee that you took me off of that and replaced

1355
02:03:02,880 --> 02:03:08,000
me. And this was what you decided should be the brand

1356
02:03:08,000 --> 02:03:12,360
in policy. Well, you say you, when you say you, if you talk about the

1357
02:03:12,360 --> 02:03:17,800
creator, I, I, I, I, I, I was a reading that I was in Europe

1358
02:03:17,800 --> 02:03:22,520
visiting my sister, where you discussed defunding my

1359
02:03:22,520 --> 02:03:27,520
creed authority project. You, I have attended every single one of

1360
02:03:27,520 --> 02:03:31,980
these for planning and whatever you call policy and whatever

1361
02:03:31,980 --> 02:03:36,880
you call it now, committee, the committee IE was on. So just what is done by the committee?

1362
02:03:38,280 --> 02:03:46,440
So I say that because I object for the record that this was anything I asked for. This

1363
02:03:46,440 --> 02:03:54,700
is not something I asked for. It makes zero common sense. It's also anti-democratic. The way to

1364
02:03:54,700 --> 02:04:01,560
deal with an elected representative if you don't like them is you have many means. One is to

1365
02:04:01,560 --> 02:04:09,400
organize a real talk. I agree with you, but you're discussing 5.2. We are now in 5.1.

1366
02:04:09,720 --> 02:04:16,460
5.1, I'm looking at it. It's a policy that you claim I had something to do with.

1367
02:04:16,600 --> 02:04:18,320
Board appointed officers.

1368
02:04:21,640 --> 02:04:26,320
Oh, yes, I opposed that, too. Because, yes, thank you. This was also a

1369
02:04:26,320 --> 02:04:29,560
There was no policy, you requested at the last meeting.

1370
02:04:29,620 --> 02:04:31,840
Actually, there was a policy.

1371
02:04:32,000 --> 02:04:44,540
The policy was that board appointed officers were excluded from the right to file complaints against board directors.

1372
02:04:45,180 --> 02:04:49,240
But they were specifically not listed.

1373
02:04:49,240 --> 02:04:59,980
And what I said regarding that is the entire $600,000 investigation that was done against me as well as the $2 million dollar.

1374
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:07,760
The dollar lawsuits that have followed against me were never authorized by the codes. That is my legal opinion

1375
02:05:07,760 --> 02:05:14,020
as well as that of my attorneys, which unfortunately I was forced to higher without my condemnification

1376
02:05:14,020 --> 02:05:23,280
clause that you agreed with, to give. This has been my legal opinion and my personal opinion that these

1377
02:05:23,280 --> 02:05:29,800
investigations are unauthorized. That is completely apart from the fact that there was no authorized

1378
02:05:29,800 --> 02:05:36,820
ethics committee at the time to actually make this recommendation. So there are numerous

1379
02:05:36,820 --> 02:05:43,240
problems with the way this problematic investigation against me was launched. In addition

1380
02:05:43,240 --> 02:05:48,060
to the fact that the investigations didn't even stay to claim. So all that is being handled

1381
02:05:48,060 --> 02:05:54,700
unfortunately in the courts because because of these investigations, what value water then does

1382
02:05:54,700 --> 02:05:57,880
is spent millions of dollars on deepest litigation

1383
02:05:57,880 --> 02:05:59,800
that only makes things worse.

1384
02:06:00,220 --> 02:06:03,420
What Valley Water needs to do is learn to grow up

1385
02:06:03,420 --> 02:06:06,040
and learn to treat other people

1386
02:06:06,040 --> 02:06:09,940
with professional respect, including the issue of safety.

1387
02:06:09,960 --> 02:06:12,160
Yes, that goes for all of us.

1388
02:06:12,180 --> 02:06:16,040
It's wrapped others, land utility to be okay

1389
02:06:16,040 --> 02:06:17,480
with disagreements.

1390
02:06:17,780 --> 02:06:18,320
We're done.

1391
02:06:18,320 --> 02:06:22,260
It's part of my ethnicity and part of my religion.

1392
02:06:22,720 --> 02:06:23,580
We are done.

1393
02:06:24,340 --> 02:06:27,900
We're not done. We are done.

1394
02:06:28,400 --> 02:06:30,220
You are done. You are done. You are done. You are done.

1395
02:06:30,660 --> 02:06:35,880
You cut me off. Not in issue that we are not at this issue.

1396
02:06:37,060 --> 02:06:39,640
So, you are done.

1397
02:06:39,980 --> 02:06:42,240
Mr. Vice Chair, what else is there?

1398
02:06:42,540 --> 02:06:45,060
Okay, we have Director Valor then we have Director Bill.

1399
02:06:45,660 --> 02:06:46,200
Director Valor.

1400
02:06:50,000 --> 02:06:50,540
Great.

1401
02:06:50,940 --> 02:06:56,440
So, I wanted to just bring the conversation back and make sure we're all on the same agenda item.

1402
02:06:57,640 --> 02:07:05,580
Yeah, I just want to make sure everybody understands that because we started with someone commenting on 5.2.

1403
02:07:05,920 --> 02:07:09,080
So I think it makes people up. So we are now.

1404
02:07:09,620 --> 02:07:25,100
I want to just say that part of the context here is the all remember on December 10th, we the board adopted the policy that now is being

1405
02:07:26,060 --> 02:07:38,000
discussed in 5.2. That is the process that is triggered when a complaint is filed against a board member by a member of the public or by an employee.

1406
02:07:40,120 --> 02:07:53,440
As we the board have been going about what we do, some of us noticed that, hey, we have a process for when someone files a complaint against a board member.

1407
02:07:53,440 --> 02:08:00,420
that's the one we adopted on December 10th. We have a process for when someone files a complaint

1408
02:08:00,420 --> 02:08:08,220
against an employee should we have a process for BALs given that the board fires and fires those

1409
02:08:08,220 --> 02:08:15,280
folks and so that that is what this agenda item is. It is asking the board policy and monitoring committee

1410
02:08:15,280 --> 02:08:23,320
I think I'm getting the name right to have a conversation about whether we should and if so

1411
02:08:24,240 --> 02:08:28,480
let's let's figure out what that process would look like. So I support that. I would go ahead

1412
02:08:28,480 --> 02:08:36,100
and make a motion to have that referral move forward and that's all. Thank you. Is there a second?

1413
02:08:36,180 --> 02:08:41,300
Yes. By night, I got a director's shoe and there's a second. Go ahead, don't. Okay, I'll direct the bell.

1414
02:08:42,820 --> 02:08:43,380
What's a motion?

1415
02:08:45,280 --> 02:08:50,080
I heard the motion to be a that proved the referral. Is that correct? So we'll be discussed.

1416
02:08:52,140 --> 02:09:03,280
I support this. I thought, okay, this is good. I mean, we'll go ahead and do this. I want to I want to recognize some special things that think about in that committee. Okay.

1417
02:09:03,280 --> 02:09:16,240
One of them is sort of the power, power relationship issue and making sure that people feel comfortable

1418
02:09:16,240 --> 02:09:25,840
in a way of applying their rights to have a complaint against somebody that has power.

1419
02:09:25,860 --> 02:09:27,200
I think that's important.

1420
02:09:27,200 --> 02:09:56,660
You know, to look at that in a fair way, I mean, I think there's been a lot of talk about that in the country that people, it's hard to complain against somebody that has power over you in some way in terms of your employment or in terms of other things, you know, political things, other things.

1421
02:09:57,200 --> 02:09:58,800
So um

1422
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:27,840
That's important. If we do the referral, I think those kinds of issues should be talked about. I think the way you get around that is sort of having some kind of neutral, you can talk to professionals about this, but neutral sort of evaluator, arbitrator kind of person to weigh in judge that case.

1423
02:10:27,840 --> 02:10:33,320
So if you want to say it that way, to make it fair decision on the issue, okay?

1424
02:10:33,840 --> 02:10:40,160
So I make any comments in a way where it doesn't have the appearance of political,

1425
02:10:42,180 --> 02:10:43,380
it is more fair

1426
02:10:43,380 --> 02:10:46,700
and it's neutral, have a neutral evaluator.

1427
02:10:47,340 --> 02:10:52,260
So I'm just, you know, off of when that comes back from the committee, some of these things are considered.

1428
02:10:52,580 --> 02:10:54,300
And I appreciate the referral.

1429
02:10:54,400 --> 02:10:55,320
Thank you very much.

1430
02:10:55,580 --> 02:10:56,540
I support it.

1431
02:10:58,400 --> 02:11:00,200
I think further, Vice Chair.

1432
02:11:01,100 --> 02:11:02,560
No, I'm going to have chair.

1433
02:11:03,220 --> 02:11:04,680
All right, roll call please.

1434
02:11:05,300 --> 02:11:06,220
Director Ballard.

1435
02:11:06,820 --> 02:11:07,460
Director Ball.

1436
02:11:08,040 --> 02:11:09,060
Director Eisenberg.

1437
02:11:12,580 --> 02:11:14,080
To this existing committee.

1438
02:11:15,000 --> 02:11:16,780
The committee as it exists now.

1439
02:11:16,860 --> 02:11:18,320
Then the answer is no.

1440
02:11:19,140 --> 02:11:19,880
Director Shua.

1441
02:11:20,540 --> 02:11:20,740
Yes.

1442
02:11:21,100 --> 02:11:21,940
Vice Chair Santos.

1443
02:11:22,000 --> 02:11:22,340
Yes.

1444
02:11:22,860 --> 02:11:23,720
Director Varella.

1445
02:11:24,380 --> 02:11:25,200
Chair Estramara.

1446
02:11:25,620 --> 02:11:25,860
Aye.

1447
02:11:26,420 --> 02:11:27,120
Motion passes.

1448
02:11:28,400 --> 02:11:30,600
Right. Five point two.

1449
02:11:32,860 --> 02:11:34,800
I'll undertake motion since we've, I think, discussed.

1450
02:11:34,800 --> 02:11:37,280
Oh, Mr. Chair, we have a couple of speakers on five, too.

1451
02:11:37,500 --> 02:11:37,820
Okay.

1452
02:11:38,540 --> 02:11:41,840
Additionally, I've never been informed of any charges against me.

1453
02:11:45,460 --> 02:11:47,520
Good word, Ed. Chair, do you want me to go ahead and.

1454
02:11:47,560 --> 02:11:47,820
Yes.

1455
02:11:48,720 --> 02:11:52,040
Okay. The first speaker we have is a Doug Peterson.

1456
02:11:52,900 --> 02:11:54,740
Five point. Please. Please come in.

1457
02:11:55,940 --> 02:11:57,880
Followed by Peter Van Dyke.

1458
02:11:59,220 --> 02:11:59,620
This is Peter,

1459
02:12:09,160 --> 02:12:09,160
sir.

1460
02:12:09,160 --> 02:12:22,940
Hello again, my name is Doug Peterson, and I value my constitutional right to speak about agenda item 5.2 which focuses on two formal complaints that I filed against director Rebecca Eisenberg.

1461
02:12:23,700 --> 02:12:35,840
I did not intend to speak here today, but her defamatory online references to me posted last night have left me no choice but to appear before you again and defend my good name.

1462
02:12:35,840 --> 02:12:43,600
My first complaint was signed and filed in person on February 13th in accordance with the

1463
02:12:43,600 --> 02:12:45,780
government, the board's governance procedures.

1464
02:12:46,960 --> 02:12:50,860
Recent events led me to file a second complaint on March 4.

1465
02:12:52,180 --> 02:12:59,260
Last night, two online narratives posted by director Eisenberg, alleged that my grievances

1466
02:12:59,260 --> 02:13:07,280
are part of a coordinated effort led by chairperson Esfremara and are somehow connected to a matter

1467
02:13:07,280 --> 02:13:18,060
concerning the CEO. I categorically deny director Eisenberg's false characterization of my

1468
02:13:18,060 --> 02:13:25,880
actions and motives. I composed my formal complaints on my home desktop computer using my own

1469
02:13:25,880 --> 02:13:33,160
intellect and resources, believing that director Eisenberg's dishonest and defamatory online

1470
02:13:33,160 --> 02:13:39,740
statements violate the board's code of ethics and conduct. I have never spoke to the chair

1471
02:13:39,740 --> 02:13:48,960
or any other district official about my complaints prior to filing them. After I filed my

1472
02:13:48,960 --> 02:13:55,820
This complaint, Chair Estimera contacted me to provide a basic understanding of the process

1473
02:13:55,820 --> 02:13:59,980
that would likely be followed and our conversation was brief.

1474
02:14:01,080 --> 02:14:07,040
When he contacted me about the second, I expressed my desire to have the closely related

1475
02:14:07,040 --> 02:14:12,360
complaints adjudicated concurrently, and it is my understanding that this is how the board

1476
02:14:12,360 --> 02:14:15,940
will proceed if it agrees to process my grievances.

1477
02:14:15,940 --> 02:14:23,740
If necessary, my personal handwritten notes and my computer's search history could verify that I

1478
02:14:23,740 --> 02:14:26,220
compose both complaints independently.

1479
02:14:27,360 --> 02:14:33,240
I was not encouraged, directed, or aided by any official from Valley Water.

1480
02:14:34,240 --> 02:14:39,600
I will conclude by saying that the first amendment of the U.S. Constitution was not put

1481
02:14:39,600 --> 02:14:46,440
place to protect the rights of government officials to defame and humiliate folks like me.

1482
02:14:47,100 --> 02:14:52,720
It was enacted so that ordinary citizens could openly express their thoughts about their

1483
02:14:52,720 --> 02:14:59,640
government and seek redress for their grievances free from fear of retaliation or intimidation.

1484
02:15:00,370 --> 02:15:07,130
Director Eisenberg is obligated by her privileged position to speak in a way that honors the thoughtful

1485
02:15:07,130 --> 02:15:13,010
stretchers outlined in the board's code of ethics and conduct, and I am well within my rights

1486
02:15:13,010 --> 02:15:20,470
to seek redress for blatant conduct violations that cause significant harm to me and others.

1487
02:15:21,170 --> 02:15:27,890
I am fully confident that this board will treat them at her fairly, and I will be at peace with

1488
02:15:27,890 --> 02:15:30,210
any outcome of your deliberations.

1489
02:15:30,950 --> 02:15:32,990
Thank you again for all that you do.

1490
02:15:33,050 --> 02:15:34,050
Mayor's fine to that.

1491
02:15:34,050 --> 02:15:35,590
I think there's no, you may not respond.

1492
02:15:36,070 --> 02:15:37,130
Well, you're not going to miss the Peterson.

1493
02:15:37,530 --> 02:15:38,790
This is, this is public comment.

1494
02:15:38,790 --> 02:15:40,310
There is no reference like that.

1495
02:15:40,310 --> 02:15:43,190
Mr. Van Dyke, I do not mention it by name on a website.

1496
02:15:43,530 --> 02:15:45,510
Out of order, or usual.

1497
02:15:46,290 --> 02:15:47,250
OK, I'm after that.

1498
02:15:48,230 --> 02:15:51,430
But the way you treat me right now is completely out of line.

1499
02:15:52,710 --> 02:15:56,290
So, I thought that the ad committee for several years,

1500
02:15:56,290 --> 02:16:00,570
And I've been attending a lot of the board meetings

1501
02:16:00,570 --> 02:16:02,210
because I need to learn about the district

1502
02:16:02,210 --> 02:16:05,150
and what goes on even though I was on the resource

1503
02:16:05,150 --> 02:16:07,510
conservation board of directors back in the 90s

1504
02:16:07,510 --> 02:16:08,630
as a young man.

1505
02:16:11,410 --> 02:16:16,330
And the only way the boards can function properly

1506
02:16:16,330 --> 02:16:17,630
is to have continuity.

1507
02:16:19,010 --> 02:16:21,290
And Mr. Peterson mentioned the first amendment.

1508
02:16:21,850 --> 02:16:24,870
I don't think he fully understands it.

1509
02:16:24,870 --> 02:16:30,110
Because I believe that her first amendment rights might be violated in this case.

1510
02:16:31,110 --> 02:16:39,870
You know, when I first, she first came to one of our committee meetings, I was really put off by her because of her personality, her brashness.

1511
02:16:40,990 --> 02:16:42,390
I'm just being honest.

1512
02:16:43,630 --> 02:16:54,810
You know, but because I believe in freedom and freedom of speech, I said okay, let her say what she needs to say at this meeting.

1513
02:16:55,610 --> 02:17:02,110
And I just don't, I don't agree with putting people down, censoring people, I mean, even

1514
02:17:02,110 --> 02:17:07,110
Al Green in the Congress the other day, I thought that they should just let him speak.

1515
02:17:07,870 --> 02:17:10,310
He had something to say, so he interrupted his speech.

1516
02:17:11,910 --> 02:17:15,710
I think he had a right to speak to say what he needed to say.

1517
02:17:16,870 --> 02:17:22,750
And I've looked at the investigations, I've looked at it all, and I just, I just, your board's

1518
02:17:22,750 --> 02:17:28,110
a function better if you can communicate these things out. And just accept her for who she is,

1519
02:17:29,630 --> 02:17:34,310
which you know, she still kind of puts me off in a lot of ways, you know, but it has just

1520
02:17:34,310 --> 02:17:40,750
her personality. We got to accept people for who they are and we got to move on and get beyond

1521
02:17:40,750 --> 02:17:48,150
these petty little differences that everybody seems to focus on and focus on the job that we have to

1522
02:17:48,150 --> 02:17:53,430
to you, all of us. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Van Dyck.

1523
02:17:55,440 --> 02:17:56,660
Mr. Chair, we have a very

1524
02:17:56,660 --> 02:17:57,580
great director.

1525
02:17:59,500 --> 02:18:04,480
So first of all, I want to thank both of the speakers. I recognize that what you said

1526
02:18:04,480 --> 02:18:11,800
to me was pretty hurt my feelings a lot both of you, but I'm not going to fail a complaint

1527
02:18:11,800 --> 02:18:18,200
about you because you have the right to speak. And the way I was taught growing up where I

1528
02:18:18,200 --> 02:18:27,480
And by religion and my ethnicity, is that the response to speech is more speech, the response to speech is more speech.

1529
02:18:27,780 --> 02:18:33,780
First of all, I want to say that anyone could look at my blog at our L.E.

1530
02:18:33,960 --> 02:18:47,160
My initials Rebecca Lynn Eisenberg at me dot medium dot com and you will see for yourself, I never once come close to mentioning Doug Peterson.

1531
02:18:47,160 --> 02:18:57,160
In any way whatsoever, at the last meeting, Mr. Peterson alleged that when I referred to Mr. Burns, I was referring to Mr. Peterson.

1532
02:18:57,900 --> 02:19:04,840
No. Mr. Peterson is not Mr. Burns. Mr. Burns is the mean boss on the Simpsons.

1533
02:19:05,440 --> 02:19:13,060
And all I had was a cartoon from the Simpsons because I love Lisa Simpson and I stand by that. And you're welcome not to us, Lisa Simpson.

1534
02:19:13,060 --> 02:19:21,320
It's okay. I love her. First of all, I want to say that the fact that this has been escalated to this level.

1535
02:19:21,920 --> 02:19:27,270
It's embarrassing for all of us. I get that the point of this is again to publicly humiliate me.

1536
02:19:27,980 --> 02:19:42,860
But I can stand this. I have you all have taught me so well how to keep my chin high when people say things to me that hurt my feelings. You have helped me gain the strength to know that self-esteem comes from within.

1537
02:19:42,860 --> 02:19:53,120
And as long as I know that I'm always behaving in a high integrity manner, I can look myself in the mirror, I feel good, and that is the case.

1538
02:19:53,300 --> 02:19:59,980
I never would have mentioned Doug Peterson in my post, I did not mention Doug Peterson in my post, and I don't know where, what if he's...

1539
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:06,160
Looking at the right place. Maybe he's looking somewhere else, but that was incorrect. And so I agree with the earlier

1540
02:20:06,160 --> 02:20:11,440
speaker, Ms. Goldeen, that this board should actually take a look at this complaint before

1541
02:20:11,440 --> 02:20:17,220
deciding to elevate it because that is just a provably false accusation. And again, I encourage

1542
02:20:17,220 --> 02:20:23,700
you all to read it. Second, I think the fact that this has been escalated possibly might be retaliation

1543
02:20:23,700 --> 02:20:28,680
against me because I put a reason to believe that some of you may have found out about

1544
02:20:28,680 --> 02:20:32,700
the six hours I spent being interviewed by the FBI.

1545
02:20:34,280 --> 02:20:40,320
Yes, I was interviewed by the FBI and I believe that some of you learned that even though

1546
02:20:40,320 --> 02:20:47,100
I have been keeping that confidential and so these statements that Mr. Peterson is so

1547
02:20:47,100 --> 02:20:49,880
certain of calling, defamatory, and untrue,

1548
02:20:50,620 --> 02:20:54,380
are not being considered so by the federal authorities.

1549
02:20:55,500 --> 02:21:01,260
So I think that there are genuine disputes over fact.

1550
02:21:01,860 --> 02:21:03,660
There are genuine disputes over law.

1551
02:21:04,200 --> 02:21:06,460
And when there are genuine disputes over facts

1552
02:21:06,460 --> 02:21:10,180
or law, our democracy with our three branches of government

1553
02:21:10,180 --> 02:21:12,740
has means of handling this.

1554
02:21:13,220 --> 02:21:16,680
If Mr. I only got 55% of the vote,

1555
02:21:16,680 --> 02:21:19,020
which is pretty good against a two-term incumbent.

1556
02:21:19,400 --> 02:21:22,720
That means at 45% of the people voted for the other guy.

1557
02:21:24,120 --> 02:21:25,700
I've actually, if anything on my blog,

1558
02:21:25,840 --> 02:21:28,280
I've tried to extend an olive branch to Mr. Peterson

1559
02:21:28,280 --> 02:21:31,740
because his words express a lot of environmentalism.

1560
02:21:31,800 --> 02:21:34,340
And I think we could actually work together really well.

1561
02:21:34,640 --> 02:21:35,380
I'm a lawyer.

1562
02:21:35,480 --> 02:21:38,840
I work together with people of all personalities.

1563
02:21:39,520 --> 02:21:40,620
It's what I do.

1564
02:21:41,280 --> 02:21:43,180
I mean, I worked for Peter Teele.

1565
02:21:43,260 --> 02:21:44,340
I worked with Elon Musk.

1566
02:21:44,340 --> 02:21:46,580
I can work with people and be amicable.

1567
02:21:47,080 --> 02:21:48,180
Could you please wrap up?

1568
02:21:48,720 --> 02:21:51,340
So, I don't think I need to.

1569
02:21:51,540 --> 02:21:53,700
So, this is a very big thing

1570
02:21:53,700 --> 02:21:56,280
you're asking my colleagues to vote on.

1571
02:21:56,620 --> 02:21:58,820
And I deserve the chance to address it.

1572
02:21:59,160 --> 02:22:00,940
The way that, especially because I didn't

1573
02:22:00,940 --> 02:22:03,060
heard about this today, no one bothered

1574
02:22:03,060 --> 02:22:04,880
to tell me that actual complaint.

1575
02:22:05,520 --> 02:22:07,280
So, they're under a democracy.

1576
02:22:08,080 --> 02:22:11,800
There are means of taking action when you hate

1577
02:22:11,800 --> 02:22:12,980
your elected representative.

1578
02:22:13,500 --> 02:22:24,960
One of them is to get together with other people who hate your elected representative, and try to file for a, some giving the word, you know, forced impeachment.

1579
02:22:26,000 --> 02:22:32,400
So he could, he is, he is free. Anyone is free to try to get me and peach. That is part of our democracy.

1580
02:22:33,080 --> 02:22:38,240
Another option open to him is to write as many letters to the press and speak as much as he wants in these meetings.

1581
02:22:38,240 --> 02:22:48,300
And I welcome these thoughts because please wrap up, so yes, I am. I welcome these. Yes, will you please not interrupt. I am.

1582
02:22:48,740 --> 02:22:51,560
You've been on this for 15 minutes.

1583
02:22:53,380 --> 02:22:56,530
So I hope that when the public watches these.

1584
02:22:57,560 --> 02:23:05,800
They will see who actually is being rude and who is being polite because I want to say to Mr. Peterson, I don't have anything against you.

1585
02:23:05,800 --> 02:23:09,640
I have been you, I have been really frustrated with my elected official.

1586
02:23:10,300 --> 02:23:13,180
I understand how much, how much that sucks.

1587
02:23:13,700 --> 02:23:19,620
I get the feeling of feeling like your elected official is really, really like you said.

1588
02:23:19,660 --> 02:23:22,660
I want to say, I can't.

1589
02:23:22,660 --> 02:23:22,980
I can't.

1590
02:23:23,140 --> 02:23:23,720
Last time.

1591
02:23:24,040 --> 02:23:25,040
What I am trying to...

1592
02:23:25,040 --> 02:23:25,740
You're out of order.

1593
02:23:25,980 --> 02:23:27,360
This is not even the agenda.

1594
02:23:27,520 --> 02:23:27,780
I'm trying to do this here.

1595
02:23:27,960 --> 02:23:28,660
I'm trying to do this here.

1596
02:23:28,660 --> 02:23:29,780
You are out of order.

1597
02:23:30,040 --> 02:23:30,460
We're done.

1598
02:23:31,180 --> 02:23:33,200
I am reaching an amulet right here.

1599
02:23:33,320 --> 02:23:34,680
I'm proposing an...

1600
02:23:34,680 --> 02:23:43,960
Vice chair is there any is there any of the motion is that it I just want to make peace with Mr.

1601
02:23:43,980 --> 02:23:48,800
Peters and his all and then go talk to him. I would I think we can vote this

1602
02:23:48,800 --> 02:24:03,300
without another $600,000 being spent on an investigation and another to the vice chair I'm in

1603
02:24:03,300 --> 02:24:07,960
Walker, Mr. Walker, Mr. Chair, I know.

1604
02:24:08,840 --> 02:24:10,260
Hi, everyone, I'm Luke Walker.

1605
02:24:10,500 --> 02:24:10,740
I'm Mr. Walker.

1606
02:24:10,740 --> 02:24:11,220
Yes, Mr. Walker.

1607
02:24:11,240 --> 02:24:11,400
Mr.

1608
02:24:15,200 --> 02:24:21,520
Walker, just from me observing today, I definitely am one of many,

1609
02:24:21,720 --> 02:24:29,640
a growing meaning that are standing behind her on how she is clearly targeted,

1610
02:24:29,640 --> 02:24:37,620
Clearly met with bias and I can't hear you and can she start over we couldn't hear you

1611
02:24:38,360 --> 02:24:43,580
No, we couldn't their my colleagues have said they can your your at home. So you maybe have a different system

1612
02:24:44,800 --> 02:24:53,880
Yes, I just want to say I am one of many many many many many behind Miss Eisenberg and I do hope that in the future this board does

1613
02:24:56,080 --> 02:24:59,980
as able to contact.

1614
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:10,000
Business with dignity and class and respect. That's what I'm going to add today, but I'm definitely looking into.

1615
02:25:10,700 --> 02:25:26,200
I'll be looking at your past board meetings as well and presenting potentially in the future additional information, but we are 100% behind Miss Eisenberg, and I do hope you guys can conduct business with a little bit more dignity.

1616
02:25:29,560 --> 02:25:34,700
at this point. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. Anybody else?

1617
02:25:35,940 --> 02:25:44,780
So I share. Okay. This is point. I want to ask the general council to please explain to us

1618
02:25:45,240 --> 02:25:50,000
what this personal policy is with respect to the point.

1619
02:25:50,780 --> 02:25:56,440
I don't know because there is actually a dispute going on between

1620
02:25:56,440 --> 02:26:00,860
myself and the discount he's going to I want him to recite the

1621
02:26:00,860 --> 02:26:07,300
what the I want him to recite you have not been he is not nice do not

1622
02:26:07,300 --> 02:26:11,480
have been recognized but he is incapable of of answering this without being

1623
02:26:11,480 --> 02:26:16,640
inflicted and if the general of the accused himself from this then there will be no

1624
02:26:16,640 --> 02:26:22,140
the representative general council read the policy not out of order this

1625
02:26:22,140 --> 02:26:26,340
policy that we're talking about. Mr. Chair, this is kind of

1626
02:26:26,340 --> 02:26:29,660
so the answer to your counsel. So the policy is stated in the

1627
02:26:29,660 --> 02:26:32,900
Board of Gender Memo, which was approved by the Board as a whole on

1628
02:26:32,900 --> 02:26:36,800
December 10th of last year. So the policy provides that anyone

1629
02:26:36,800 --> 02:26:39,940
quote, anyone may bring a formal complaint against the Board member

1630
02:26:39,940 --> 02:26:44,180
from this conduct and importance with this section. The chair shall remove

1631
02:26:44,180 --> 02:26:47,240
complaints to determine if you've complaints to determine that they

1632
02:26:47,240 --> 02:26:51,600
articulate sufficient basis for further consideration. The chair may

1633
02:26:51,600 --> 02:26:56,360
is not required to attempt informal resolution of a complaint with the complainant and the accused

1634
02:26:56,360 --> 02:26:57,100
board number.

1635
02:26:58,320 --> 02:27:02,600
The thing goes on to provide, if informal resolution is unsuccessful or is not attempted,

1636
02:27:02,920 --> 02:27:07,520
the chair shall make a timely request to the board to form an ethics and conduct ad hoc

1637
02:27:07,520 --> 02:27:12,080
committee to address the complaint. As part of this request, the chair shall nominate an additional

1638
02:27:12,080 --> 02:27:16,780
member for the committee, which shall consist of the chair and one other. The chair's request

1639
02:27:16,780 --> 02:27:20,560
shall be agendized for a public meeting of the board of directors. That's where we are.

1640
02:27:20,560 --> 02:27:33,700
So, it's up to the board to determine whether they're doing a border, was there first a requirement that in former resolution be attempted, because there has been no informal resolution. That's actually what I was arguing for.

1641
02:27:34,680 --> 02:27:35,840
There's no requirement.

1642
02:27:37,980 --> 02:27:39,600
I proposed that.

1643
02:27:39,600 --> 02:27:40,760
Yes, we did again.

1644
02:27:41,000 --> 02:27:41,540
Yeah, attempted.

1645
02:27:42,580 --> 02:27:46,020
I mean, this is something that two runners can work out.

1646
02:27:46,380 --> 02:27:48,100
Mr. Chair, she's on a border.

1647
02:27:51,760 --> 02:28:05,500
It's real simple to resolve this thing, it's to go through the process. I have not even, I have not just set down $1,000 bestigation simple.

1648
02:28:06,200 --> 02:28:15,860
There is kind of hiring freeze. You are assuming you are, you know, you want to talk about fairness, you are assuming stuff that absolutely hasn't happened.

1649
02:28:15,860 --> 02:28:21,700
You're just assuming the investigation against me because 600,000 and the litigation

1650
02:28:21,700 --> 02:28:30,400
are assuming that's been 2 million. Yeah, no that is not assuming that is fact and you admitted that the district admitted that so that is

1651
02:28:30,400 --> 02:28:35,820
There's no assumption it's not necessary to share we have to write we're on a hiring freeze and you

1652
02:28:35,820 --> 02:28:42,560
you are out of order again and again and again and again and again we're going to get to a point

1653
02:28:42,560 --> 02:28:44,400
We have to ask you to leave

1654
02:28:44,400 --> 02:28:53,380
I we have to conduct this meeting according to the rules now you are out of order ten times now. Okay, I'll tie the yonning

1655
02:28:54,960 --> 02:28:59,340
To the chair of the security rocket if we have to record your bellard. I'll write your ballard

1656
02:29:01,580 --> 02:29:03,860
two things I wanted to say

1657
02:29:03,860 --> 02:29:17,420
One, I wanted to go ahead and make a motion that we direct the chair to pursue some sort of resolution that falls in the category of an informal process first and foremost.

1658
02:29:17,680 --> 02:29:23,200
I do agree that we should have adults sit down and figure things out.

1659
02:29:23,200 --> 02:29:33,720
So that would be a motion that I make, it's within the, I think it falls within what is outlined in the memo here and the recommendation.

1660
02:29:34,780 --> 02:29:41,100
But I would like for it to be some sort of like, let's try to sit down and work this out in a informal way.

1661
02:29:41,100 --> 02:29:46,100
And then, and then I wanted to also ask for some clarification.

1662
02:29:47,240 --> 02:29:50,820
Director Eisenberg mentioned that she was not notified,

1663
02:29:51,460 --> 02:29:53,340
or was not aware that there was a complaint.

1664
02:29:54,600 --> 02:29:57,600
I know that I received, given the complaint.

1665
02:29:58,420 --> 02:29:58,980
I know.

1666
02:30:02,740 --> 02:30:29,540
Can I respond, let me respond, let me respond. First of all, I personally did notify her by email. Second, no, not notice of the complaint. Not with the complaint. Notice of the complaint. Again, that's the policy. It says notice of the complaint doesn't say,

1667
02:30:29,540 --> 02:30:31,980
in any case. Let me respond.

1668
02:30:34,120 --> 02:30:35,100
Let me respond again.

1669
02:30:37,200 --> 02:30:39,460
Let me respond to that. Let

1670
02:30:42,080 --> 02:30:43,480
me respond

1671
02:30:43,480 --> 02:30:51,680
to direct the ballard. Direct the ballard. I have seen this as I can't sit down and deal

1672
02:30:51,680 --> 02:30:59,500
with this unless I first have an intake and speak with the complainant. Then figure out

1673
02:30:59,500 --> 02:31:07,180
to do. I was the person on the committee that suggested informal complaints, first of all,

1674
02:31:07,480 --> 02:31:14,740
an informal complaint process because of this, and secondly, that there always be an attempt

1675
02:31:14,740 --> 02:31:22,940
that mediation. So, not everything ends up at investigation, especially if there's no question

1676
02:31:22,940 --> 02:31:30,820
fact. But I don't see myself with being able to talk to a complainant without going to the process.

1677
02:31:31,480 --> 02:31:36,380
So this is what the process is. I have not discussed this with with the complainant

1678
02:31:37,720 --> 02:31:43,360
because this is what the process is. The only thing I discussed with the complainant was

1679
02:31:43,360 --> 02:31:46,870
to let them know that this is the process to one that we're following now.

1680
02:31:47,890 --> 02:31:54,110
And, secondly, I only discussed with him that he had a second complaint. We put both complaints together.

1681
02:31:54,830 --> 02:32:02,710
That's it. I didn't feel that I was able, as a person who's got to deal with the complaint,

1682
02:32:03,190 --> 02:32:10,030
that I was able to go talk to him and talk to everybody and conduct a meeting without going through this process.

1683
02:32:10,430 --> 02:32:13,390
That's what the process requires. That's why I had the council reading.

1684
02:32:13,390 --> 02:32:23,130
So, that's all I'm doing is following the process, I imagine after I do an intake that I might even consider that there is no no no basis for the complaint.

1685
02:32:23,310 --> 02:32:27,190
But that's what that's what this sets, this is a formal complaint.

1686
02:32:28,090 --> 02:32:30,510
We have a process for informal complaints.

1687
02:32:31,530 --> 02:32:34,710
Once the complaint is said, this is a formal complaint, it's a formal complaint.

1688
02:32:34,870 --> 02:32:36,550
So I'm following that process.

1689
02:32:37,110 --> 02:32:42,510
It's a cumbersome process, but I can't say if I'm not, if I'm a disinterested person,

1690
02:32:43,070 --> 02:32:48,090
then go talk to the complainant because then of course, the response is going to be

1691
02:32:48,090 --> 02:32:52,450
that the complainee, I've been talking to the complainant.

1692
02:32:53,530 --> 02:32:58,110
So that's what I'm trying to avoid by going strictly to the process.

1693
02:32:58,290 --> 02:33:03,850
So once I go to the process, you assign as a board to me to go talk to people that I

1694
02:33:03,850 --> 02:33:05,810
do that.

1695
02:33:05,950 --> 02:33:07,290
Okay, can I?

1696
02:33:07,610 --> 02:33:11,250
So two things, one, thank you for clarifying.

1697
02:33:12,490 --> 02:33:15,750
I think all of us want to get beyond this

1698
02:33:15,750 --> 02:33:20,350
and just get to, I think someone was saying earlier about doing the good work of

1699
02:33:20,350 --> 02:33:21,170
this organization.

1700
02:33:22,890 --> 02:33:27,530
So, there's a lot between an informal complaint

1701
02:33:27,530 --> 02:33:32,350
and an investigation, and I think we're not, we're not authorizing

1702
02:33:32,350 --> 02:33:38,750
and investigation. No. So I just want to make that clear because it seems like some people are feeling like we're

1703
02:33:38,750 --> 02:33:44,350
you know director Eisenberg said spending $600,000 for an investigation. Or not, that's not at all what

1704
02:33:44,350 --> 02:33:49,390
were, that's not the ways that we're at at this point. And then the other thing I just wanted to clarify was

1705
02:33:50,430 --> 02:33:56,830
I distinctly remember getting two different communications from Doug Peterson outlining grievances.

1706
02:33:56,830 --> 02:34:05,930
they were a part of our board packet, they were, they were there, so I'm wondering if, you know,

1707
02:34:06,030 --> 02:34:11,390
drug drives number, you mentioned that you weren't alerted, you didn't know what the complaint was, but they were in our board packet.

1708
02:34:11,750 --> 02:34:16,590
I mean, I recognize Dr. Ballad that you're the newest member of this board and I welcome you.

1709
02:34:16,590 --> 02:34:20,390
Well, heartedly, and I appreciate what you said earlier, but this is really unprecedented.

1710
02:34:21,110 --> 02:34:27,830
people write all sorts of negative things about all sorts of different board members, including the chair.

1711
02:34:28,210 --> 02:34:32,470
There have been all sorts of mean nasty personal tax given to every single one of us.

1712
02:34:32,730 --> 02:34:36,690
And that's what happens when you're elected official. This is the first time.

1713
02:34:36,850 --> 02:34:41,170
This is the first time. This is the first time and it that and that this has ever been put on the agenda.

1714
02:34:41,730 --> 02:34:46,170
I mean, this is a really expensive meeting we're having and this isn't a really expensive amount of time.

1715
02:34:46,170 --> 02:34:58,810
This is not cost free to the public that this has been made on the agenda, especially because we're operating within the context of our CEO, having multiple complaints about him for sexual harassment and potential assault.

1716
02:34:58,810 --> 02:34:59,970
What's it? What's it?

1717
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:11,060
And once again, once again, once again, once again, once again, once again, once again, once again, once again, once again, once again, once again.

1718
02:35:12,260 --> 02:35:23,040
So that is, this is worth saying. What I think also what needs to be clarified is that direct that chair, as to Mara's words in that email.

1719
02:35:23,040 --> 02:35:30,700
different entirely from what he just said. I have determined that the complaints and its

1720
02:35:30,700 --> 02:35:36,520
supplement are to articulate a sufficient basis for further consideration. Now, he has

1721
02:35:36,520 --> 02:35:42,340
not considered any other of the critical emails that have arrived at any other board director

1722
02:35:42,340 --> 02:35:49,880
to warrant board consideration. And that within the context of the FBI looking into him,

1723
02:35:49,880 --> 02:35:52,000
This was a formal complaint.

1724
02:35:53,940 --> 02:35:56,840
It was filed as a formal complaint.

1725
02:35:57,000 --> 02:35:58,600
It's not a letter or an email.

1726
02:35:59,200 --> 02:36:01,260
Now, in response to it, I have made many.

1727
02:36:01,580 --> 02:36:04,260
Once again, none of them have been because I've

1728
02:36:04,260 --> 02:36:08,300
complained about, yeah, I have complained about sex discrimination.

1729
02:36:08,800 --> 02:36:10,760
Because I've complained about it.

1730
02:36:11,640 --> 02:36:15,100
In response to direct the ballot, direct the ballot,

1731
02:36:15,300 --> 02:36:19,140
the different letters that we received,

1732
02:36:19,140 --> 02:36:24,440
It are not the complaint the complaint is I don't know almost 30 pages long

1733
02:36:24,440 --> 02:36:25,320
so

1734
02:36:25,320 --> 02:36:27,540
You know

1735
02:36:27,540 --> 02:36:31,360
Those are different letters like any other letters that we'll be seeing so is it?

1736
02:36:31,580 --> 02:36:39,060
I didn't so complain from why did to the victim to the accused no, there's nothing that says that and when we get to that

1737
02:36:40,140 --> 02:36:46,880
We've gone through this because what he said out there was provably on true his name is never mentioned in my God

1738
02:36:46,880 --> 02:37:00,120
I do not wish we've gone way beyond way beyond way beyond this this is a very simple request.

1739
02:37:00,480 --> 02:37:08,460
The board can obviously vote no and then you know we'll have we'll have Mr. Peterson do something else.

1740
02:37:09,760 --> 02:37:13,240
So, is there a motion or either way?

1741
02:37:13,860 --> 02:37:15,120
Let's move on.

1742
02:37:15,560 --> 02:37:17,620
We've done with this.

1743
02:37:17,960 --> 02:37:18,500
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

1744
02:37:18,580 --> 02:37:21,180
I make a, I support that request and a motion.

1745
02:37:21,680 --> 02:37:22,860
Is there a second?

1746
02:37:24,300 --> 02:37:26,040
Ms. Ballard, Dr. Ballard, have you?

1747
02:37:26,100 --> 02:37:26,460
Sure will.

1748
02:37:26,720 --> 02:37:27,360
Is there a second?

1749
02:37:27,760 --> 02:37:29,020
The second please.

1750
02:37:33,280 --> 02:37:34,800
Have the clerk read the motion back.

1751
02:37:38,370 --> 02:37:40,890
The motion is to consider the request of chair,

1752
02:37:40,890 --> 02:37:48,210
Mr. Mayor, pursuant to GP6.5.7 to form in ethics and conduct ad hoc committee, consisting of chair,

1753
02:37:48,350 --> 02:37:54,350
Mr. Mayor and vice chair centers to address a complaint from a member of the public, against a board member.

1754
02:37:55,850 --> 02:37:56,630
And

1755
02:37:58,810 --> 02:38:07,330
there is a motion by director Bale, to handle this.

1756
02:38:08,530 --> 02:38:10,930
Excuse me, you had a border.

1757
02:38:11,610 --> 02:38:12,070
Hi, sir.

1758
02:38:12,870 --> 02:38:13,750
Yes, go ahead, Tony.

1759
02:38:14,170 --> 02:38:14,830
Do we have a motion?

1760
02:38:15,110 --> 02:38:16,170
What's going on?

1761
02:38:16,470 --> 02:38:18,390
We have a motion for 5.2.

1762
02:38:19,110 --> 02:38:19,750
Is there a second?

1763
02:38:20,570 --> 02:38:22,190
We had a second by nice human.

1764
02:38:22,910 --> 02:38:24,430
All right, then roll call.

1765
02:38:26,800 --> 02:38:30,040
So the most, the substitution emotion is withdrawn.

1766
02:38:31,120 --> 02:38:31,400
Yeah.

1767
02:38:31,660 --> 02:38:33,180
One point two is what it says here.

1768
02:38:33,180 --> 02:38:34,520
What it says we're voting on.

1769
02:38:34,900 --> 02:38:38,220
Okay. And just to be clear, because I thought I had an original motion from director

1770
02:38:38,220 --> 02:38:39,200
Ballard and a second.

1771
02:38:39,200 --> 02:38:40,200
It's the suggestions.

1772
02:38:41,960 --> 02:38:42,200
Okay.

1773
02:38:43,420 --> 02:38:44,740
The answer is my motion.

1774
02:38:44,920 --> 02:38:45,680
I believe this happens.

1775
02:38:46,140 --> 02:38:46,200
Okay.

1776
02:38:46,820 --> 02:38:47,760
So I'm sorry. Could you repeat?

1777
02:38:47,780 --> 02:38:50,660
Who made the, the next one?

1778
02:38:51,240 --> 02:38:52,880
The motion and then the second.

1779
02:38:53,760 --> 02:38:54,600
Thank you.

1780
02:38:56,960 --> 02:38:57,220
Okay.

1781
02:38:57,220 --> 02:39:05,080
roll call director Ballard director Bell director Eisenberg. I oppose the creation of a new ethics.

1782
02:39:05,380 --> 02:39:09,860
Just say no. This is a roll call.

1783
02:39:09,920 --> 02:39:11,920
Director Shua. Yes.

1784
02:39:12,580 --> 02:39:13,900
Is chair Santas? Yes.

1785
02:39:14,500 --> 02:39:21,320
Director Varella chair and Stramara. Hi. Motion passes. Thank you.

1786
02:39:23,700 --> 02:39:24,780
Board committee reports.

1787
02:39:28,610 --> 02:39:29,210
Any questions?

1788
02:39:30,730 --> 02:39:32,150
Nothing, Mr. Chair, go ahead.

1789
02:39:32,350 --> 02:39:38,430
And his question, okay, we'll move right along then two, five, eight point one.

1790
02:39:38,990 --> 02:39:42,420
We do have a couple of speakers, Mr. Chair, how you want to handle it.

1791
02:39:43,110 --> 02:39:43,410
Right ahead.

1792
02:39:43,570 --> 02:39:46,510
Well, let's start our presentation then we'll then we'll do this speaker's.

1793
02:39:46,510 --> 02:39:47,590
Thank you.

1794
02:39:47,730 --> 02:39:49,330
We'll take public comment after that.

1795
02:39:49,510 --> 02:39:51,990
Yeah, we have two speakers. Don't just let me make sure you have.

1796
02:39:52,150 --> 02:39:55,550
We have a David Kennedy in the Peter Van Dyke.

1797
02:39:55,970 --> 02:39:56,390
Okay.

1798
02:39:56,390 --> 02:39:59,130
Just line up, please later, go ahead, Mr. Chair.

1799
02:40:01,040 --> 02:40:08,560
All right. Good afternoon, Chairs from Aera and Board of Directors, Submarine McCartor, Deputy Operating Officer at the Dam Safety and Capital of Delivery Division.

1800
02:40:09,240 --> 02:40:20,880
Today, we have an item 8.1. It's the informational update on the Pacheco Reservoir Expansion Project, so we have a presentation today that was given at our January 27th water supply and demand management committee meeting.

1801
02:40:20,880 --> 02:40:23,400
And it's also accompanied by an FAQ sheet.

1802
02:40:23,620 --> 02:40:26,720
We have some questions that have come in over the past couple of years

1803
02:40:26,720 --> 02:40:29,620
that we wanted to kind of memorialize in that answer there.

1804
02:40:30,220 --> 02:40:32,280
So, that further ado, if you'd like to have the presentation,

1805
02:40:32,460 --> 02:40:34,700
I'll pass it over to Julianne O'Brien.

1806
02:40:39,740 --> 02:40:41,020
Good afternoon, Julianne.

1807
02:40:41,020 --> 02:40:44,020
Good afternoon, Julianne O'Brien, engineering unit manager

1808
02:40:44,020 --> 02:40:45,780
overseeing the potato project.

1809
02:40:47,280 --> 02:40:52,260
OK, so we've been giving quarterly updates on the project for some time.

1810
02:40:52,260 --> 02:41:09,880
And in October, we went to the then Water Supply, I don't remember a committee, and presented a list of future topics for to kind of guide these updates moving forward, and then that went to the full board in November of 2023.

1811
02:41:09,880 --> 02:41:16,540
the next topic that we talked about was then description of project operations and benefits that was

1812
02:41:17,080 --> 02:41:21,680
later that same year December to committee and then full board in January.

1813
02:41:23,440 --> 02:41:30,920
And then in 2024 we had a discussion and review of project costs to the wisdom committee

1814
02:41:30,920 --> 02:41:37,800
they water supply demand management committee in May of 2024 and then the full board in June

1815
02:41:37,800 --> 02:41:43,260
that year. And then the most recent one was the discussion and review of requirements unique

1816
02:41:43,260 --> 02:41:48,360
to the project which went to committee in August and the full board in October. And then

1817
02:41:48,360 --> 02:41:53,040
as Ryan mentioned earlier this presentation has already gone to the committee and that was

1818
02:41:53,040 --> 02:42:00,720
in January of this year. And then additionally we have that list of questions and responses from previous

1819
02:42:00,720 --> 02:42:07,720
presentations that's part of the attachment. And that will continue to be updated periodically

1820
02:42:07,720 --> 02:42:14,320
as needed. Okay, so moving forward, some of the other future topics still on that

1821
02:42:14,320 --> 02:42:20,000
ruthless from 2023 are a discussion review of current partnership approach in the board,

1822
02:42:20,020 --> 02:42:25,760
directed partnership percentages, and a discussion in the connection between the project and

1823
02:42:25,760 --> 02:42:33,960
the 2025 water supply master plans portfolio recommendation, as well as the review of the

1824
02:42:33,960 --> 02:42:39,080
in environmental impacts and mitigation measures, and then any additional topics that are

1825
02:42:39,080 --> 02:42:44,100
end up being requested by the Board or the committee. And as of right now, we are planning

1826
02:42:44,100 --> 02:42:49,640
that our next topic is actually going to be a combination of bullet points, uh, the first two bullet points.

1827
02:42:53,550 --> 02:42:54,290
So what is your problem?

1828
02:42:56,530 --> 02:43:01,950
Okay. So, um, what is to provide some project updates, um, from the geotet,

1829
02:43:02,010 --> 02:43:08,150
on the geotet technical investigation side? So originally we were pursuing a geotet

1830
02:43:08,150 --> 02:43:12,270
of a work under a categorical assumption to seek out which is kind of standard procedure.

1831
02:43:13,030 --> 02:43:19,650
In May of 2023, that those design-level geotechnical investigations were stopped by court order.

1832
02:43:20,710 --> 02:43:26,910
In spring and response to that court order, staff prepared a draft initial study, mitigated nec-negative declaration.

1833
02:43:28,170 --> 02:43:31,130
In June, that was released for public review.

1834
02:43:31,870 --> 02:43:37,490
And then in August of 2024, we transitioned to preparing a design-level geotechnical investigation

1835
02:43:37,490 --> 02:43:44,050
environmental impact report in consideration of public and agency comments. And that environmental

1836
02:43:44,050 --> 02:43:48,730
impact report actually was released for public review today. So that is now out for public review

1837
02:43:48,730 --> 02:43:56,500
and that comment period is slated to close April 25th. And then on the environmental side

1838
02:44:00,260 --> 02:44:02,400
what on my notes got out of order.

1839
02:44:07,540 --> 02:44:14,140
Okay, so in July of 2021, PG&E let us know that we would need to

1840
02:44:14,140 --> 02:44:19,220
provides an additional transmission line which has now been determined to be approximately two

1841
02:44:19,220 --> 02:44:26,900
additional miles. In September of 2023, the Army Corps was identified as the Federal National

1842
02:44:26,900 --> 02:44:34,260
Environmental Protection Act Lead Agency and they also requested that we separate our environmental

1843
02:44:34,260 --> 02:44:40,580
impact statement and our particularly attractive IR up to that point we had been planning on having

1844
02:44:40,580 --> 02:44:41,680
that be a joint document.

1845
02:44:43,420 --> 02:44:46,100
After some internal review and discussions,

1846
02:44:46,880 --> 02:44:48,540
we made the decision to formally

1847
02:44:48,540 --> 02:44:51,920
separate those documents in September of 2024.

1848
02:44:52,960 --> 02:44:56,120
And then also in September of 2024,

1849
02:44:57,740 --> 02:44:59,860
became parent that we needed to do some

1850
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:14,600
Additional modeling, due to state model, statewide model updates by the Department of Water Resources, and to include state and federal biological impacts of the Delta, moving from the Kelsen to the House of Three.

1851
02:45:15,480 --> 02:45:28,540
And this modeling updates are going to be required for the EIR. The resturculated draft EIR, as well as permitting down the road to make sure we meet the regulatory requirements.

1852
02:45:30,910 --> 02:45:41,010
Okay, so this resulted these two phase impacts resulted in an approximate 18 month schedule of vision.

1853
02:45:41,850 --> 02:45:50,970
The categories here are the phases. So, for example, for construction, the new start date of one January 1, 2021,

1854
02:45:51,890 --> 02:45:55,610
is not necessarily shovels in the ground. That's just the start of the construction phase.

1855
02:45:55,610 --> 02:45:57,750
that was something that wasn't clear earlier.

1856
02:45:57,890 --> 02:46:01,090
So these are the new projected start

1857
02:46:01,090 --> 02:46:03,970
and my dates of those phases.

1858
02:46:06,100 --> 02:46:10,120
We also updated the environmental design milestone timeline

1859
02:46:10,120 --> 02:46:11,380
that we had to chair previously.

1860
02:46:11,400 --> 02:46:13,620
I'm not going to go through all the updates.

1861
02:46:14,360 --> 02:46:18,460
There's a lot that the, and based on the 18 month delay

1862
02:46:18,460 --> 02:46:20,840
was the key takeaway here.

1863
02:46:22,040 --> 02:46:25,000
This is the one that kind of shows where we are

1864
02:46:25,000 --> 02:46:33,960
As I mentioned earlier, the draft EIR for the design level due to animal investigations was released today, and so that kind of lines up with where we are.

1865
02:46:35,020 --> 02:46:36,980
And then the.

1866
02:46:37,200 --> 02:46:44,460
We circulated draft EIR development for the larger project is kind of re initiated as well.

1867
02:46:53,340 --> 02:46:54,700
Okay, current project efforts.

1868
02:46:54,700 --> 02:47:16,520
So, we are continuing to progress the design towards 60% design, a few elements that are not dependent on the results of the design level geotechnical investigations have already reached that 60% design, and again, we talked about the draft EIR for the geotech, which was really today.

1869
02:47:17,420 --> 02:47:31,240
We are having ongoing coordination with PG&E on the new transmission line, and to that end, the facility study report has been completed with PG&E, and we are currently coordinating with PG&E on the interconnection agreement, which is the next step.

1870
02:47:32,400 --> 02:47:45,440
We're continuing to move forward with the her circulated draft EIR for the larger project, and then, as mentioned earlier, we have separated the environmental impact statement from the her circulated draft EIR.

1871
02:47:47,420 --> 02:47:49,700
upcoming milestones.

1872
02:47:51,720 --> 02:47:58,720
The draft EIR was completed and is released for public review. We are

1873
02:47:58,720 --> 02:48:05,060
depending on the comments received and how intensive those are. We are anticipating

1874
02:48:05,060 --> 02:48:12,360
certifying the final geotech EIR and getting the necessary permits in August. And then with

1875
02:48:12,360 --> 02:48:20,140
resume that work in September of this year. We will then complete that work in June at

1876
02:48:20,140 --> 02:48:27,820
2026. Some of that will, again, be dependent on weather and when we actually certify and

1877
02:48:27,820 --> 02:48:33,300
resume that work. And then with the goal of completing the 60% design next September.

1878
02:48:36,540 --> 02:48:37,280
Any questions?

1879
02:48:40,320 --> 02:48:45,170
Mr. Chair, since the information we do have a person online and there's

1880
02:48:45,170 --> 02:48:48,010
speakers here, whatever you want to do.

1881
02:48:52,120 --> 02:48:54,780
Okay, he's telling you, you know, let's say questions

1882
02:48:54,780 --> 02:49:00,900
and only questions and then we'll have public comment and then we can have board discussion.

1883
02:49:01,540 --> 02:49:05,840
Although this is an information only item. So let's treat it as such.

1884
02:49:06,180 --> 02:49:09,800
Well, we have Mr. Chair, we have Director Bell. Yes, Director Bell.

1885
02:49:11,460 --> 02:49:18,800
Because it's such a large project and an independent evaluation be done on the project

1886
02:49:18,800 --> 02:49:21,260
in terms of its cost, timeline, and scope.

1887
02:49:28,900 --> 02:49:30,860
Yeah, we can certainly consider that.

1888
02:49:32,570 --> 02:49:33,070
Independent.

1889
02:49:33,650 --> 02:49:40,930
I mean, somebody can outside evaluate it as a social large project, I think we need to

1890
02:49:40,930 --> 02:49:42,770
look at the reality here.

1891
02:49:45,530 --> 02:49:50,410
Well, don't we have regulators looking at it and now the board did the water board?

1892
02:49:50,930 --> 02:49:52,750
Yeah, I'm just asking for this.

1893
02:49:55,270 --> 02:49:56,770
Most people don't agree with that.

1894
02:49:56,990 --> 02:49:57,230
That's fine.

1895
02:49:57,230 --> 02:49:58,530
So that's what I'm asking for.

1896
02:50:00,020 --> 02:50:11,000
I didn't say I disagreed. I was asking whether we, that's what I want. That I thought we had the the water board looked at it and a number of regulators have looked at it.

1897
02:50:11,000 --> 02:50:16,240
members keep changing and we need to have an end of evaluation. Thank you.

1898
02:50:16,340 --> 02:50:17,280
Mr. Chu, have to record.

1899
02:50:18,080 --> 02:50:19,160
Yes, I have to record.

1900
02:50:20,900 --> 02:50:28,720
I second, third class made by Dr. Bell, and I expect it will be attended to because he made it.

1901
02:50:29,260 --> 02:50:39,240
I also want to refer to the lengthy document that I submitted about probably a little more than a year ago.

1902
02:50:39,240 --> 02:50:50,260
before I was taken off the committee, it was the water storage committee. I can find it for you,

1903
02:50:50,420 --> 02:50:58,080
or I'm sure that the clerk would be able to locate it or I can, you know, for you, where I

1904
02:50:58,080 --> 02:51:04,000
asked a large number of questions, you know, about 14 months ago, and none of them have yet been answered.

1905
02:51:04,500 --> 02:51:08,780
And I don't want to waste time, so I'd want to refer to that. And if you don't have the

1906
02:51:08,780 --> 02:51:13,740
document, I'll make sure you have it. I do and actually a lot of that information was incorporated

1907
02:51:13,740 --> 02:51:20,520
in that case. It wasn't a word for word, but we tried to consolidate a lot of the questions

1908
02:51:20,520 --> 02:51:27,600
and information that had been requested over the last 18 months into a new document. Okay, well,

1909
02:51:28,040 --> 02:51:34,100
maybe I could be, some of that could be walked through, tried with me. I would really appreciate

1910
02:51:34,100 --> 02:51:41,260
it, so I can better understand the changes that have been made, you know, as this is an extremely

1911
02:51:41,260 --> 02:51:49,380
expensive project that is going to be funded with extremely in my opinion risky loans and

1912
02:51:49,380 --> 02:51:54,680
expensive loans. So I appreciate your attention to that. I look forward to hearing more. Thank you.

1913
02:51:58,150 --> 02:52:03,310
Mr. Vice Chair, next. Yes, Mr. Chair, if you would mind with your permission, take the two people

1914
02:52:03,310 --> 02:52:08,730
in-house so they could be the traffic. Sure. Sure. A lot of line. So that was Kennedy and

1915
02:52:08,730 --> 02:52:14,140
have a Kennedy. Okay. Thank you.

1916
02:52:17,480 --> 02:52:18,460
Good afternoon, Miss Kennedy.

1917
02:52:24,870 --> 02:52:26,230
Okay. Well, thank you very much.

1918
02:52:26,490 --> 02:52:36,170
What a enlightening meeting this has been. I obviously against the Pajaco dam. I don't

1919
02:52:36,170 --> 02:52:41,530
believe we need that. I believe we can use our resources in a different way in a more efficient way.

1920
02:52:43,450 --> 02:53:02,970
The presentation. This is my second board meeting. So this is only really the second time that I've seen this, but I think whatever every presentation that you present this project to the to the public, you should have the total cost of this this project presented real plain and simple what's the total cost and also what is the impact of ratepayers.

1921
02:53:02,970 --> 02:53:08,650
So at every meeting, you should say, this is the total cost of this point, this is the impact to the rate players at this point.

1922
02:53:08,990 --> 02:53:14,910
You should also have, which was suggested, the independent investigators look into it,

1923
02:53:15,130 --> 02:53:23,810
you should also have their opinion of the project listed so that we know what all these other agencies are saying.

1924
02:53:24,070 --> 02:53:32,870
And I believe from my previous encounters that a lot of the agencies outside say that this is not a project we should be doing.

1925
02:53:33,490 --> 02:53:37,930
There's too much money. I'm a proud member of District 6.

1926
02:53:38,930 --> 02:53:44,410
As to Mara, I am totally unhappy with the way that you are performing here today.

1927
02:53:44,730 --> 02:53:50,710
Very unprofessional. I don't know what you have against District 7, in the size of Merck,

1928
02:53:51,190 --> 02:53:56,030
but it's obvious. I've only been here twice. The first time I was like,

1929
02:53:56,390 --> 02:54:01,810
wow, what are you and the vice chair having answered? We are in the second day. I see it again.

1930
02:54:01,810 --> 02:54:18,050
So I would like to say that when it comes to this, I will be talking to my neighbors, I will be going on instant the media to let them know what I've seen here today.

1931
02:54:19,090 --> 02:54:20,630
I would expect a more professional.

1932
02:54:22,330 --> 02:54:29,290
You're running through things really fast in a way that is disrespectful to your fellow colleagues.

1933
02:54:30,710 --> 02:54:33,990
There are clear questions that you are not answering.

1934
02:54:34,750 --> 02:54:36,970
There are clear procedures that you are not following.

1935
02:54:37,510 --> 02:54:39,850
You are picking and choosing your procedures that you follow.

1936
02:54:41,830 --> 02:54:43,930
For this point of order of Mr. Chairman.

1937
02:54:44,690 --> 02:54:47,770
For this procedure here, I do not agree.

1938
02:54:48,950 --> 02:54:49,510
Mr. Chairman.

1939
02:54:50,310 --> 02:54:52,030
Public comment, go run ahead, please.

1940
02:54:53,450 --> 02:54:53,950
Go ahead, Mr. Kennedy.

1941
02:54:54,090 --> 02:54:55,210
Yeah, let me speak, Jim.

1942
02:54:55,570 --> 02:54:56,450
All right, all right.

1943
02:54:57,310 --> 02:54:58,110
Just let me speak.

1944
02:54:58,110 --> 02:54:59,390
you have your time.

1945
02:54:59,770 --> 02:54:59,970
Awesome.

1946
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:06,380
So, which is what happens often. You all get to speak after me. And after I spoke last time in front of this committee,

1947
02:55:07,140 --> 02:55:17,360
Santos said, well, because there are so many people again, just want to hear what everybody says, I want to hear what all my 2 million people have to say, but yet you don't put any vehicle out there to get their opinion.

1948
02:55:18,120 --> 02:55:26,940
I did, if you put that out there, and you get the opinion of all the people in this county, and whether we need that damn, you will get a clear and resounding no.

1949
02:55:28,080 --> 02:55:28,880
Thank you.

1950
02:55:28,880 --> 02:55:29,980
Thank you, Mr. Kennedy.

1951
02:55:30,540 --> 02:55:31,040
Mr. Van Dyne.

1952
02:55:31,660 --> 02:55:32,780
Thank you.

1953
02:55:35,970 --> 02:55:37,950
Thank you, Mr. Chair and Board.

1954
02:55:39,050 --> 02:55:42,730
My family had five generations of farming in this valley.

1955
02:55:44,810 --> 02:55:49,250
And we're intertwined with the land, the ecology, and the people.

1956
02:55:49,530 --> 02:55:55,610
Everything from the Hispanics that have been here for generations to the native peoples that have

1957
02:55:55,610 --> 02:55:59,310
been here for generations, I've had interactions with all of them.

1958
02:55:59,310 --> 02:56:01,090
a lot of them have worked on our farms.

1959
02:56:03,250 --> 02:56:05,630
And I just want to make some comments

1960
02:56:05,630 --> 02:56:09,030
that we could be considered when you think about going forward

1961
02:56:09,030 --> 02:56:09,990
with this project.

1962
02:56:11,030 --> 02:56:13,870
I think Mr. Kennedy covered my analysis.

1963
02:56:14,170 --> 02:56:15,350
So I don't have to go ahead.

1964
02:56:15,990 --> 02:56:19,170
But the one thing I wanted to point out is that the Jacob pass

1965
02:56:19,170 --> 02:56:23,930
for probably 12,000 years in more has been a corridor

1966
02:56:23,930 --> 02:56:25,430
for trade for the native people.

1967
02:56:25,430 --> 02:56:30,410
So it's like has a significant cultural impact there.

1968
02:56:31,050 --> 02:56:33,170
And you know, maybe we don't feel anything about it,

1969
02:56:33,290 --> 02:56:38,330
but it's deeply ingrained in their culture and their being

1970
02:56:38,330 --> 02:56:39,150
and their emotion.

1971
02:56:39,390 --> 02:56:41,350
I've talked a lot about this.

1972
02:56:41,910 --> 02:56:45,810
And in that corridor for trade, regional trade,

1973
02:56:47,450 --> 02:56:51,330
that particular North Fork area was pretty much a center point.

1974
02:56:51,730 --> 02:56:54,470
So that's something that needs to be considered when this is going through

1975
02:56:54,470 --> 02:56:57,510
and you need to really talk to the tribes about this, too.

1976
02:56:57,750 --> 02:56:59,130
And you gotta get them involved.

1977
02:57:00,270 --> 02:57:03,530
The other issue is that we're gonna be in a dating

1978
02:57:03,530 --> 02:57:06,590
because on the conservation district board of directors,

1979
02:57:07,290 --> 02:57:09,930
we're gonna in a date, Sikmoor Habitat,

1980
02:57:10,910 --> 02:57:14,270
which there is far less than 40% of that left in California.

1981
02:57:15,430 --> 02:57:18,370
And the Sikmoor has an incredible symbiotic relationship

1982
02:57:18,370 --> 02:57:22,450
with riparian corridors in how it provides shade

1983
02:57:22,450 --> 02:57:28,430
and also sunlight, the bark is evolved to reflect sunlight into the waters and yet keep them cool.

1984
02:57:28,910 --> 02:57:32,570
And that's very important. We're going to be losing that habitat, so that's a pretty big

1985
02:57:32,570 --> 02:57:38,010
ecological impact there because there's not much sick and more habitat left, especially the old

1986
02:57:38,010 --> 02:57:39,430
heirloom western sick and more.

1987
02:57:42,600 --> 02:57:45,220
So Mr. Peterson covered the cost.

1988
02:57:46,940 --> 02:57:51,100
And I know that that's that you're going to build this reservoir. It's proposed to build built

1989
02:57:51,100 --> 02:57:52,800
and an alluvial plane.

1990
02:57:53,340 --> 02:57:55,740
So I'm wondering how much the cost of just getting down

1991
02:57:55,740 --> 02:57:59,260
to a foundational rock, there's going to be,

1992
02:57:59,540 --> 02:58:02,600
and what that expense is, and if the district has researched

1993
02:58:02,600 --> 02:58:06,760
that, to see if perhaps a site upstream might be better

1994
02:58:06,760 --> 02:58:09,400
that wouldn't have that big impact

1995
02:58:09,400 --> 02:58:12,160
on the ecology of the right-parent corridor.

1996
02:58:13,600 --> 02:58:16,380
So I'm not sure if that's an issue,

1997
02:58:16,520 --> 02:58:17,700
but I know that area well,

1998
02:58:17,780 --> 02:58:19,640
because my family's been around here for so long,

1999
02:58:19,640 --> 02:58:25,080
It's a lot of gravel and sand and loose rock and it's not good for a foundation.

2000
02:58:25,240 --> 02:58:31,840
You're going to have to go quite a way to get the bedrock guarantee that I noticed from working with weld drillers in the area.

2001
02:58:32,940 --> 02:58:40,310
The other thing is that there was a reservoir post there.

2002
02:58:41,530 --> 02:58:43,430
Just kind of finish your quick as my last point.

2003
02:58:43,430 --> 02:58:44,650
Good, wrap it up.

2004
02:58:44,950 --> 02:58:47,010
In 1973, there was a reservoir of proposed,

2005
02:58:47,010 --> 02:58:48,510
and there were three partners in that,

2006
02:58:48,510 --> 02:58:49,710
moment-samped needle county,

2007
02:58:49,970 --> 02:58:53,290
moment-south county, water conservation district,

2008
02:58:53,410 --> 02:58:54,430
and valley water.

2009
02:58:54,690 --> 02:58:56,970
That proposal, and you can look it up.

2010
02:58:57,150 --> 02:59:00,290
I found this online, was rejected by the Department

2011
02:59:00,290 --> 02:59:02,950
of the State Resources California State Resources

2012
02:59:02,950 --> 02:59:06,630
Control Board based on the Department of Fish and Wildlife

2013
02:59:06,630 --> 02:59:12,910
and Fish and Game saying that that Creek is a steelhead

2014
02:59:12,910 --> 02:59:14,470
and Sam and Habitat Creek.

2015
02:59:15,530 --> 02:59:17,930
So that's another thing that we need to consider

2016
02:59:17,930 --> 02:59:20,350
forward going forward in this work.

2017
02:59:21,690 --> 02:59:23,930
And I'm just wondering if it would be better

2018
02:59:23,930 --> 02:59:27,010
to invest as money perhaps in the semi-tropic

2019
02:59:27,010 --> 02:59:29,670
and some other groundwater storage somewhere else

2020
02:59:29,670 --> 02:59:31,850
in the state and use that for horse trading.

2021
02:59:32,930 --> 02:59:36,090
And save the rate payers a lot of money in the long run.

2022
02:59:36,650 --> 02:59:38,390
There's a lot of options here.

2023
02:59:38,730 --> 02:59:39,970
And I think the board needs to consider

2024
02:59:39,970 --> 02:59:45,490
instead of being narrowly focused on one thing. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Rendak.

2025
02:59:47,630 --> 02:59:49,570
Right, Chair. I think you said there was somebody online.

2026
02:59:49,910 --> 02:59:53,670
Actually, Chair, right before the two online people, we had Director Bell.

2027
02:59:54,330 --> 02:59:56,110
Yes, Director Bell. John Dorello.

2028
02:59:56,270 --> 02:59:59,810
I have spoken. I don't know. Director Dorello?

2029
03:00:00,940 --> 03:00:02,560
In this matter,

2030
03:00:05,080 --> 03:00:31,500
thank you, Chair. So I recently had the opportunity to visit with the San Benito Water District and the Particle Advocates in that particular region, two, three weeks ago. And we did a tour of the dams and reservoirs in that particular region. And they are a partner with us on this project, as you are all aware.

2031
03:00:32,860 --> 03:00:42,180
Additionally, I have met with the Native American tribe, legal tribes, chiefs, on the Amumatsin

2032
03:00:42,180 --> 03:00:49,840
with Velopens, chief Velopens, and the Castanoan chief Ann Marie Sears, and although they

2033
03:00:49,840 --> 03:00:58,600
have their concerns as to the particular involvement of their history, Mr. Lopez has agreed

2034
03:00:58,600 --> 03:01:04,640
in principle, to work with Valleywater on the study of this particular project.

2035
03:01:05,340 --> 03:01:10,780
So we're not ignoring any of these, any of the history in this particular region.

2036
03:01:12,560 --> 03:01:19,480
Emery Sayers, a tribal chief of the Castanoan, her land constitutes the area that we spoke

2037
03:01:19,480 --> 03:01:23,840
about earlier about the Sergeant Ranch, and she's in that particular region in the southern

2038
03:01:23,840 --> 03:01:27,160
and hills of Hollister, beautiful, beautiful property,

2039
03:01:27,580 --> 03:01:30,100
and I've been with her and I visited her property many, many times.

2040
03:01:31,360 --> 03:01:34,500
So again, I suggest you that,

2041
03:01:34,940 --> 03:01:37,180
although they have concerns about the environmental issues

2042
03:01:37,180 --> 03:01:40,620
that could happen from, they're not opposed to,

2043
03:01:40,680 --> 03:01:42,940
they're working with us, they're speaking with us.

2044
03:01:43,400 --> 03:01:45,420
And we've also met with the,

2045
03:01:45,420 --> 03:01:47,360
and I'm on the board of the Pavel River

2046
03:01:47,360 --> 03:01:48,940
flood protection authority,

2047
03:01:49,380 --> 03:01:53,340
along with Richard Santos, and they too,

2048
03:01:53,340 --> 03:02:00,600
favor this project, because it will provide flood protection for a region that floods historically

2049
03:02:01,100 --> 03:02:05,900
in agricultural area of that particular area, monitoring county, Santa Cruz, County, etc.

2050
03:02:07,300 --> 03:02:10,820
So although there are people that are standing up and saying this is not what we want,

2051
03:02:11,220 --> 03:02:14,540
there are also those that are saying we need this and we need to continue with this.

2052
03:02:14,880 --> 03:02:19,400
So I just wanted to go on the record to share that information that has been shared with me.

2053
03:02:27,560 --> 03:02:32,280
Can we finish the public comment first, and then I'd love to have a chat?

2054
03:02:32,700 --> 03:02:34,560
Did we finish the public comments?

2055
03:02:35,020 --> 03:02:36,540
We can two people we have.

2056
03:02:37,700 --> 03:02:40,120
Let me find out who keeps on interrupting me.

2057
03:02:40,360 --> 03:02:41,000
There's something you need.

2058
03:02:42,320 --> 03:02:42,340
Okay.

2059
03:02:42,680 --> 03:02:44,580
So what we got is Micah Vina.

2060
03:02:44,960 --> 03:02:45,900
We have Katja Irvin.

2061
03:02:46,620 --> 03:02:46,860
Yes.

2062
03:02:52,340 --> 03:02:52,620
Yeah.

2063
03:02:52,960 --> 03:02:53,840
Micah was there.

2064
03:02:54,360 --> 03:02:56,780
You know, yeah, thank you.

2065
03:02:56,860 --> 03:02:58,840
Mike, if you're here with Solary Miserable,

2066
03:02:59,020 --> 03:03:01,340
we represent the Stop the Chaker Dam Coalition,

2067
03:03:02,200 --> 03:03:03,760
I just have a few brief comments

2068
03:03:03,760 --> 03:03:06,720
that I'd like to respectfully provide for your consideration.

2069
03:03:07,560 --> 03:03:09,900
Yes, first, we just want to reiterate

2070
03:03:09,900 --> 03:03:12,120
that the public benefits of this project

2071
03:03:12,120 --> 03:03:15,160
are speculative and the cost is too high.

2072
03:03:15,860 --> 03:03:17,480
We maintain that the dam would flood

2073
03:03:17,480 --> 03:03:19,920
rare wildlife habitat in the Diablo range

2074
03:03:19,920 --> 03:03:22,120
that is not warranted relative to the benefits.

2075
03:03:22,120 --> 03:03:27,400
We also just want to flag the issue that the dam would require an amendment to the Henry

2076
03:03:27,400 --> 03:03:29,640
Coast State Park General Plan.

2077
03:03:30,080 --> 03:03:34,220
In addition, the facility may be contrary to the public resources, code requirement,

2078
03:03:34,440 --> 03:03:37,800
section 5,000 and 1.9B.

2079
03:03:38,160 --> 03:03:44,540
And I quote, no new facility may be developed in any unit of the state park system unless

2080
03:03:44,540 --> 03:03:47,380
it is compatible with the population of the unit.

2081
03:03:47,380 --> 03:03:54,220
And then finally, I just want to flag the issue that the recent approval to raise San Luis

2082
03:03:54,220 --> 03:04:01,640
Reservoir by 10 feet will add 130,000 acre feet of water capacity per year.

2083
03:04:01,860 --> 03:04:06,540
So there is less urgency for the Pacheco Dam Reservoir Expansion Project.

2084
03:04:06,860 --> 03:04:13,740
The additional volume in San Luis would be enough to serve approximately 650,000 people annually

2085
03:04:13,740 --> 03:04:16,140
and support the functions of Valley Water.

2086
03:04:18,440 --> 03:04:22,040
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Sabina. Mr. Irvin?

2087
03:04:33,680 --> 03:04:34,280
Let's cut you on.

2088
03:04:34,400 --> 03:04:35,760
Okay, good afternoon.

2089
03:04:36,120 --> 03:04:36,460
Thank you.

2090
03:04:37,240 --> 03:04:38,880
Alley waterboard and staff.

2091
03:04:39,480 --> 03:04:42,740
Cut here Irvin with the CRCled Luma Predator Chapter.

2092
03:04:44,920 --> 03:04:47,440
I hope you had time to read the comments I submitted.

2093
03:04:47,960 --> 03:04:53,000
Encouraging you to ask questions about the cost and viability of the Particle Reservoir project.

2094
03:04:54,020 --> 03:04:59,980
And also in my comments, I want to emphasize that this project will.

2095
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:07,940
We have significant impacts on tribal cultural resources, which should be documented in these staff reports.

2096
03:05:09,700 --> 03:05:19,300
I also want to thank staff for updating the milestone timeline, and for providing attachment to the Partica Reservoir FAQ.

2097
03:05:20,180 --> 03:05:29,980
At the January Waters Plan Demand Management Committee, I suggested that this FAQ should be available from the project page on the website.

2098
03:05:31,840 --> 03:05:43,260
There's an old FAQ there from February 2021, so it seems appropriate to post this one as well, and I think it would be very informative for the public.

2099
03:05:45,120 --> 03:06:13,220
Also, at the WSDM committee, I asked about what it says there's permits that still need to be acquired for the Geotechnical Investigation, and that was answered verbally by staff at that meeting, but that might be something I think hopefully staff can, again, let you all know what the permits are, so you know what's happening there with the Geotechnical Investigation.

2100
03:06:14,780 --> 03:06:22,860
And then lastly, it would also be useful to know the status of consultant contracts for the investigations.

2101
03:06:23,800 --> 03:06:36,640
Do any new contracts need to be executed or do existing contracts need to be updated before the investigations can recommence?

2102
03:06:37,680 --> 03:06:39,140
So those are my comments.

2103
03:06:40,840 --> 03:06:50,820
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Could staff tell us anything about the both of those, the consultant contractors or the permits?

2104
03:06:51,560 --> 03:07:07,160
Yeah, so the permits, we did have permits for the technical investigations back in 2023 before they stopped. A few of those need to be updated and we'll are in the process of being updated another the EIR is out there.

2105
03:07:07,160 --> 03:07:13,060
and so some of those permits include the Lake and Stream, Stream Medalturation Agreement,

2106
03:07:13,700 --> 03:07:20,640
the 401, 401, 401, and 1602 certifications, and then the geotechnical investigations will also

2107
03:07:20,640 --> 03:07:28,320
be covered under the Valley Habitat permit. And then as far as the consultant agreements I believe

2108
03:07:28,320 --> 03:07:37,140
we will need to get some potentially modify a task order for the drillers that I could get back

2109
03:07:37,140 --> 03:07:45,140
to you on that. Okay, and maybe we could include that, some of that information in the next update.

2110
03:07:46,020 --> 03:07:53,100
Yes. No, that'll keep us up. Okay. Any other speakers? Yes, we have Director Ballard,

2111
03:07:53,480 --> 03:07:59,340
and then we have Director Shoewa, and we have Director Eisenberg. Okay, Director Ballard. Thank you.

2112
03:07:59,440 --> 03:08:05,880
And Jim Bell. So we got this update in the wisdom committee. That was great. And I had questions then

2113
03:08:05,880 --> 03:08:08,580
And then I reread things, and I had all sorts of new questions.

2114
03:08:09,600 --> 03:08:17,360
Good news is a lot of my questions pertain to the briefings that you already have scheduled for us.

2115
03:08:17,800 --> 03:08:22,300
So as I'm reading, I have questions about, oh, the partnership aspect of this.

2116
03:08:22,320 --> 03:08:23,320
What is that looking like?

2117
03:08:23,380 --> 03:08:25,980
What are our milestones there, and it sounds like we're going to get a briefing.

2118
03:08:26,200 --> 03:08:27,060
So that's great.

2119
03:08:27,720 --> 03:08:30,980
Same with how this fits into the water supply master plan.

2120
03:08:31,020 --> 03:08:34,200
Sounds like we're going to get a special briefing on that as well.

2121
03:08:35,880 --> 03:08:39,940
But given that we have a couple letters from folks

2122
03:08:39,940 --> 03:08:43,820
within environmental leaning that had some of some similar questions,

2123
03:08:44,120 --> 03:08:46,620
I was wondering if you could just maybe comment

2124
03:08:46,620 --> 03:08:48,900
and give us a little bit of a preview.

2125
03:08:50,100 --> 03:08:52,220
And we heard this from one of the speakers online,

2126
03:08:52,280 --> 03:08:53,700
but also read a Norton's letter.

2127
03:08:54,380 --> 03:09:00,180
She mentions here, just with the standless dam.

2128
03:09:01,380 --> 03:09:02,400
How does that impact?

2129
03:09:02,400 --> 03:09:09,300
how do you now view this project? How do we view this project given that that's looking good

2130
03:09:09,300 --> 03:09:13,700
moving forward? So that's one of the things that I was wondering if you could this briefly respond to.

2131
03:09:13,740 --> 03:09:21,520
And then the other is kind of the cost pieces that Hacha raised around probably updating those.

2132
03:09:23,260 --> 03:09:25,220
And then one other question I had for you, sorry.

2133
03:09:27,820 --> 03:09:30,740
Was the FAQ which is really fantastic and great?

2134
03:09:30,740 --> 03:09:44,720
Is it a living document? Are you adding to it as we go? Yes, so I'll start with that one. Yes, it the intent is it will be a living document in this additional questions come up. We we may not attach it to every update.

2135
03:09:44,840 --> 03:09:52,020
We may just wait until there's some substantial updates to that, but the intent is it will be a living document moving forward.

2136
03:09:52,020 --> 03:09:57,600
as to how this project fits in with the others.

2137
03:09:58,120 --> 03:09:59,980
It's not necessarily...

2138
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:08,240
One or the other, part of that's going to be up to kind of water supply master plan, but some of these projects are actually going to work well together.

2139
03:10:10,280 --> 03:10:17,080
Delta conveyance, if it's there, and Pichaco's there, great, that's a good way to get the water from the Delta to Bichaco.

2140
03:10:17,360 --> 03:10:26,580
If Delta conveyance does not happen, then Pichaco is even more important as an emergency supply in case there is a Delta outage.

2141
03:10:27,740 --> 03:10:50,440
with the San Luis Damiries, while that would allow for more storage in San Luis, it still doesn't address the low point issue that Valley Water has in Pacheco would allow us to move our water out of San Luis earlier in the year to Pacheco to help with help mitigate the low point issue with where our intake valves are in San Luis.

2142
03:10:50,440 --> 03:10:53,000
So they could work nicely together.

2143
03:10:54,620 --> 03:10:57,700
And then, sorry, there was, you had a third question.

2144
03:10:58,000 --> 03:10:58,820
Cut to the question.

2145
03:10:59,180 --> 03:11:01,520
Cut to the section in her letter on costs.

2146
03:11:01,760 --> 03:11:03,100
And we were kind of updating the loop.

2147
03:11:03,300 --> 03:11:07,360
So we have not had a updated cost estimate.

2148
03:11:07,560 --> 03:11:12,240
And we don't anticipate it having a new cost estimate until the 60% design is complete.

2149
03:11:12,640 --> 03:11:15,460
There's just a lot of moving pieces still.

2150
03:11:15,460 --> 03:11:22,100
that being said, the latest CIP number did show a decrease in the cost because of it in the total

2151
03:11:22,100 --> 03:11:28,380
project cost due to a decrease inflation now that the project is being stretched out a couple

2152
03:11:28,380 --> 03:11:29,640
years further.

2153
03:11:33,740 --> 03:11:39,520
Okay, anything further? Director? Yeah, Director Shoo. Yeah, no, I was wondering

2154
03:11:39,520 --> 03:11:42,140
to direct the balance then.

2155
03:11:42,960 --> 03:11:43,560
Okay.

2156
03:11:43,680 --> 03:11:44,620
I'm going to start to show.

2157
03:11:45,680 --> 03:11:46,500
Thank you, Chair.

2158
03:11:48,320 --> 03:11:54,240
I have a couple of comments for staff to consider for suggestions.

2159
03:11:55,440 --> 03:12:01,160
That first of all, this is the frequent frequently asked questions.

2160
03:12:01,400 --> 03:12:03,100
I think it's really good.

2161
03:12:03,400 --> 03:12:05,420
And then we continue maintaining it.

2162
03:12:05,420 --> 03:12:13,200
at last, at the last, the manager committee meeting, we got some positive feedback from the community

2163
03:12:13,200 --> 03:12:21,580
on that. So I thought, yeah, thank you for that work. I do have two suggestions. One of the

2164
03:12:21,580 --> 03:12:30,340
question in there is how is the water supply master plan developed and then, but the critical

2165
03:12:30,340 --> 03:12:33,200
which critical July year, multi-ajoyer, that kind of thing.

2166
03:12:33,420 --> 03:12:38,640
I think it's important to point out under that question

2167
03:12:39,840 --> 03:12:48,100
that it's all go to meet the board policy level of service

2168
03:12:48,100 --> 03:12:52,140
to provide at least 80% of the demand

2169
03:12:52,140 --> 03:12:55,680
doing a critical July year or a multi-ajoyer.

2170
03:12:55,680 --> 03:13:03,400
because if we can, if everybody can live with a lower level of service to 60%, we definitely

2171
03:13:03,400 --> 03:13:10,960
can do less less than it. But then I don't think that's the, that's, yeah. So it's, it's

2172
03:13:10,960 --> 03:13:18,580
it's important for people who read us to understand that under these extreme weather conditions,

2173
03:13:19,460 --> 03:13:24,960
our goal of providing the level of service and that those two things come together. That's

2174
03:13:24,960 --> 03:13:27,120
of a supply and mass supply is developed.

2175
03:13:27,760 --> 03:13:30,040
I think that's an important concept.

2176
03:13:30,760 --> 03:13:32,800
So we seldom talk about that.

2177
03:13:34,320 --> 03:13:38,460
The other question under the question list

2178
03:13:38,460 --> 03:13:41,080
is there's something about process

2179
03:13:41,080 --> 03:13:44,000
for a land acquisition process.

2180
03:13:44,840 --> 03:13:48,360
I think one important thing is that

2181
03:13:49,540 --> 03:13:54,340
we need to have approved ERR before we can purchase any property.

2182
03:13:54,340 --> 03:14:01,440
I think that's an important component in that in your current explanation.

2183
03:14:03,220 --> 03:14:11,920
And then I have some thoughts related to Sarah Klopp, Ms. Kacha Irvin's common matter.

2184
03:14:12,680 --> 03:14:22,560
The first one is that she suggested that the environmental justification and equity section of our agenda memorandum

2185
03:14:25,260 --> 03:14:31,420
be from the point out that including tribal and cultural impact.

2186
03:14:32,020 --> 03:14:33,040
I think that's a good idea.

2187
03:14:33,520 --> 03:14:37,400
Yeah, you said something in there already, but just be more specific,

2188
03:14:38,220 --> 03:14:41,680
that there is a tribal and cultural impact.

2189
03:14:41,800 --> 03:14:46,000
Even though we don't know how we're going to do it or mitigate it,

2190
03:14:46,140 --> 03:14:48,000
but then we know there's things in the impacts.

2191
03:14:48,000 --> 03:14:56,600
The other two things that in her leather, it's about cost.

2192
03:14:57,940 --> 03:14:59,760
One is the...

2193
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:24,660
She asked for a cost benefit analysis, a discussion of all the project that I think that our currently looking at, I think that this is, to me, I think this is a pretty challenging, challenging topic, particularly for how do we quantify benefits for certain things.

2194
03:15:24,660 --> 03:15:31,640
I mean, there's easy quantification for any things that we can assign a dollar amount to

2195
03:15:31,640 --> 03:15:36,640
it to the CEC, but there are many, many advantages, it's hard to assign a dollar amount.

2196
03:15:38,860 --> 03:15:48,560
And also that all these opportunities we're looking at really is number one is to meet

2197
03:15:48,560 --> 03:15:51,900
of the water demand in the future condition.

2198
03:15:52,920 --> 03:15:56,380
So in a ways that every project should have that benefit.

2199
03:15:59,240 --> 03:16:05,780
So I said, I think it's a topic that's probably worse

2200
03:16:05,780 --> 03:16:15,820
our effort to have a more complete and comprehensive analysis.

2201
03:16:15,820 --> 03:16:23,120
because I think it's going to be something that it's an easy question that as we move forward

2202
03:16:23,120 --> 03:16:25,860
the people who are interested in this project.

2203
03:16:26,340 --> 03:16:29,540
That's an obvious question that many people will ask.

2204
03:16:30,160 --> 03:16:35,380
I think we should look into exactly when we answer this question.

2205
03:16:35,740 --> 03:16:40,080
What's the methodology that we're going to use?

2206
03:16:40,080 --> 03:16:48,840
And my suggestion is that maybe this is the topic that we can add to the list.

2207
03:16:49,500 --> 03:16:58,620
That's the board approved for the specific area updates.

2208
03:16:59,380 --> 03:17:04,400
Well, since the audio list was approved by the board, so if we're adding something to that list,

2209
03:17:04,620 --> 03:17:09,380
I think it's going to require the board's action to that.

2210
03:17:09,380 --> 03:17:13,800
So that's the first, her first question related to the cause.

2211
03:17:14,260 --> 03:17:21,760
The second, there's a, she mentioned something about the Pacheco project cause is low,

2212
03:17:22,160 --> 03:17:32,440
and then the rationale being that in comparison to Anderson-Dem project, Anderson-Dem was kind of a

2213
03:17:32,440 --> 03:17:40,440
as smaller compared to a projectile.

2214
03:17:42,420 --> 03:17:47,720
So the conclusion is the cost estimate of the projectile

2215
03:17:47,720 --> 03:17:50,500
down is too low.

2216
03:17:51,540 --> 03:17:56,180
So I think that's another topic that staff

2217
03:17:56,180 --> 03:18:00,260
can spend some time because I could be wrong.

2218
03:18:00,260 --> 03:18:04,360
with the mind, I looked at a Jacob and Anderson.

2219
03:18:04,940 --> 03:18:08,900
They're both challenging an expensive object,

2220
03:18:09,480 --> 03:18:12,320
but to me, they're a two different project.

2221
03:18:12,780 --> 03:18:17,240
One more Anderson, number one thing is Anderson is currently

2222
03:18:17,240 --> 03:18:20,680
the center of operation of all entire

2223
03:18:20,680 --> 03:18:22,220
one of your two of these systems.

2224
03:18:22,960 --> 03:18:24,520
So doing the construction, we're still

2225
03:18:24,520 --> 03:18:26,360
need to make our system work.

2226
03:18:26,640 --> 03:18:29,640
It cannot be that system just stops because Anderson

2227
03:18:29,640 --> 03:18:32,760
is all of a commission.

2228
03:18:33,760 --> 03:18:35,340
So we have to do other things.

2229
03:18:36,520 --> 03:18:39,940
And the pipeline, the cross-value pipeline,

2230
03:18:41,120 --> 03:18:43,100
extension, the coyotey pergulation,

2231
03:18:43,340 --> 03:18:49,100
dam replacement, the actual angle of handset

2232
03:18:49,100 --> 03:18:54,640
that has something to do with that after the 2017 flooding.

2233
03:18:56,140 --> 03:18:58,300
And several other other projects.

2234
03:18:58,300 --> 03:19:02,000
And I'm not talking about the mitigation project,

2235
03:19:02,400 --> 03:19:04,860
just the project that's required in order

2236
03:19:04,860 --> 03:19:09,280
to make the system to perform its function

2237
03:19:09,280 --> 03:19:11,540
when Anderson is out of the mission.

2238
03:19:12,100 --> 03:19:15,800
And all those costs are adding to the Anderson Dam project.

2239
03:19:16,200 --> 03:19:19,940
So Anderson Dam project is really the cost of this whole,

2240
03:19:21,040 --> 03:19:22,780
I don't know how to describe it,

2241
03:19:22,800 --> 03:19:25,740
I can't go over it, it's not just Anderson Dam.

2242
03:19:25,740 --> 03:19:37,920
So to me that they're different. So using the cause of Anderson to reflect that political cause as

2243
03:19:37,920 --> 03:19:46,120
Glance is not accurate. I don't think it's an accurate comparison. And of course I don't

2244
03:19:47,320 --> 03:19:53,300
be wrong, but it's definitely a topic. I think it's worth some effort that we have a story together

2245
03:19:53,300 --> 03:19:59,180
and then we can explain to people, yeah. So that's my, that's my comment.

2246
03:20:02,040 --> 03:20:15,000
I do ask my colleagues approval to add this cost benefit analysis of all this different project to the list of things, because

2247
03:20:15,000 --> 03:20:22,740
it's not something that can just come back, we need to, we need to figure it out and then the methodology, but why is this on the list?

2248
03:20:22,740 --> 03:20:31,740
then it's a it will get it will get for that. So it's a okay that make that motion now.

2249
03:20:35,750 --> 03:20:39,150
Chair is that okay that I make that only now.

2250
03:20:39,310 --> 03:20:45,590
You mean how do you mean you're muted Tony Tony you're muted.

2251
03:21:04,530 --> 03:21:05,570
Okay. Sorry.

2252
03:21:06,830 --> 03:21:11,650
yes. Oh, I was going to save. This is off information only, but we could do it

2253
03:21:11,650 --> 03:21:16,770
directive though. Good. Good. Do a board directive.

2254
03:21:17,570 --> 03:21:22,990
The board. Because if they originally know this was approved by the

2255
03:21:22,990 --> 03:21:26,610
whole board. So I don't know what I don't know. I don't know what's the right thing

2256
03:21:26,610 --> 03:21:31,740
but I think to do. Mr. Cherokee, we just asked for a castle for

2257
03:21:36,240 --> 03:21:37,040
Thank you.

2258
03:21:37,100 --> 03:21:38,600
Through the chair, Carol Solana, District Council.

2259
03:21:38,720 --> 03:21:42,840
This item is a gender solely to receive an informational update.

2260
03:21:43,340 --> 03:21:47,740
However, I think that has captured your feedback and can bring an item back at a future date.

2261
03:22:01,200 --> 03:22:01,720
On the future, on the future,

2262
03:22:01,720 --> 03:22:05,160
reports as we will with the consultants contracts and the permits.

2263
03:22:05,700 --> 03:22:12,460
That right. Yeah, my, my request is very simple, just add that topic to it. Yeah.

2264
03:22:12,460 --> 03:22:21,060
Yeah, I think that works along with we more mentioned the consultant contracts and the permits for the next update.

2265
03:22:21,740 --> 03:22:24,920
Yes. Anybody else, right, sir.

2266
03:22:25,580 --> 03:22:30,360
Yes, you have director Eisenberg. We have. We have Mr. Rowell.

2267
03:22:30,360 --> 03:22:31,140
Thank

2268
03:22:33,290 --> 03:22:39,490
you and I request that you not interrupt me like the same respect you gave to my colleague.

2269
03:22:40,390 --> 03:22:45,090
Now, I first want to just point out how inflation works and I don't mean to condescend.

2270
03:22:46,270 --> 03:22:51,230
But when the inflation rate goes down, prices still go up.

2271
03:22:51,870 --> 03:22:57,510
It's just that prices go up at a slower rate, but they're still going up.

2272
03:22:57,510 --> 03:23:04,670
there is, as long as there is inflation, prices are rising. So, that is just the case.

2273
03:23:04,810 --> 03:23:10,810
There is no reduction in inflation, that leads to reduction in price. As long as there's inflation,

2274
03:23:11,450 --> 03:23:16,850
prices are going up. And you can fact check that and everything later on. But I hope you will

2275
03:23:16,850 --> 03:23:21,710
understand that this is such an important concept. Now, I looked at some of the

2276
03:23:21,710 --> 03:23:28,130
of other projects and how they increased over the years. And so when I ran for this office,

2277
03:23:28,490 --> 03:23:34,270
the cost of Anderson Dam, which is at least the second most expensive project that this

2278
03:23:34,270 --> 03:23:40,030
Board has taken on. It's a completely different project. I utterly agree with the reason stated by

2279
03:23:40,030 --> 03:23:45,250
my colleague that, for example, Anderson Dam is arguably far more important.

2280
03:23:45,250 --> 03:23:58,690
And, while this one doesn't have the same value, so, but nonetheless Anderson Dam was 648 million

2281
03:23:58,690 --> 03:24:07,070
when I ran for office, it then doubled in price to approximately 1.3,

2282
03:24:11,810 --> 03:24:15,230
and then as of

2283
03:24:16,130 --> 03:24:23,110
The cost of Anderson Dam has more or less doubled and doubled again, for almost quadruple.

2284
03:24:23,450 --> 03:24:30,130
Additionally, when I was running for the office, the state of cost of Cacheco was $750 million.

2285
03:24:30,750 --> 03:24:35,070
By the time I was elected, I'm more than a billion.

2286
03:24:35,070 --> 03:24:45,770
Now it is, if you include the 35% that I believe we should not be deducting for financial

2287
03:24:45,770 --> 03:24:53,770
partners because they don't exist, under staff's own analysis, we're talking more than

2288
03:24:53,770 --> 03:24:59,970
billion dollars. $750,000,000. The five billion, which includes the controversy of

2289
03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:10,880
So 35% of whether or not they exist partners, but they don't exist. So that is more than doubling and then doubling again.

2290
03:25:11,240 --> 03:25:19,240
But the actual cost of the Chaco have not, we have not been given updated costs in approximately two years.

2291
03:25:19,240 --> 03:25:32,280
And that during that time, it is expected that the cost at least double, at least double because that is what happens to these costs.

2292
03:25:32,280 --> 03:25:40,480
More and even more so, Pacheco, Dam, and Reservoir is a project that is more complicated,

2293
03:25:41,200 --> 03:25:49,320
more expensive, and more regulatory, you know, heavy than any project this agency has ever taken on.

2294
03:25:50,000 --> 03:25:58,660
We have to use, you know, we have to do takings on people who don't want to give up their land.

2295
03:25:58,660 --> 03:26:08,160
We have to somehow convince the state parks system to give up a genuine piece of the state park.

2296
03:26:08,780 --> 03:26:24,000
At a time when our president is actively eliminating federal parks, I do not think that state will or should give up even a square foot of state park.

2297
03:26:24,000 --> 03:26:26,800
There is such a thing as environmental justice.

2298
03:26:27,380 --> 03:26:30,220
These state parks are absolutely 100% necessary.

2299
03:26:32,260 --> 03:26:36,620
And all the approvals of the various very important

2300
03:26:36,620 --> 03:26:40,100
interest groups and regulators don't

2301
03:26:40,100 --> 03:26:44,840
seem anywhere close to reality as others have brought out.

2302
03:26:45,160 --> 03:26:48,580
Fish and wildlife, no, there really

2303
03:26:48,580 --> 03:26:59,140
is not any of these regulators who are the least fit, least fit, you know, sure or positive about

2304
03:26:59,140 --> 03:27:07,480
the ultimate impact. You know, I think done a lot of processing on this. I really have to wonder,

2305
03:27:07,860 --> 03:27:14,100
you know, whether some people know that this jam in Reservoir isn't going to happen. If maybe this

2306
03:27:14,100 --> 03:27:20,340
about spending the money every year and whatever value water is doing with the money it's spending

2307
03:27:20,340 --> 03:27:28,380
because our chair has managed to delay the audit of those finances, not for three years,

2308
03:27:29,220 --> 03:27:33,740
so we don't really know how this money is being spent and what money is spent,

2309
03:27:34,100 --> 03:27:38,720
well we have received answers anywhere between 30 million and a hundred million dollars being spent

2310
03:27:38,720 --> 03:27:44,740
year. And we don't know how much money is being spent each year on this project that is unlikely

2311
03:27:44,740 --> 03:27:51,140
to occur. Couple other quick things we actually do absolutely know where the Indigenous tribes

2312
03:27:51,140 --> 03:27:59,980
stand. They are an explicit member of the Stop Pacheco Dam coalition. These are the local ones.

2313
03:28:00,140 --> 03:28:07,920
They were part of the lawsuit against us, where they won and we lost and we lost so badly.

2314
03:28:07,920 --> 03:28:11,340
We had to pay their attorney's fees,

2315
03:28:14,020 --> 03:28:15,400
we know they oppose it.

2316
03:28:15,760 --> 03:28:20,600
We know that the environmental community opposes this because again, they are part of the

2317
03:28:20,600 --> 03:28:23,320
stock at Shaco Dam coalition.

2318
03:28:24,320 --> 03:28:28,120
And there is just simply no question about that.

2319
03:28:28,120 --> 03:28:34,540
We also know that the private homeowners are not keen to give up their land nor should

2320
03:28:34,540 --> 03:28:35,940
they be forced to.

2321
03:28:35,940 --> 03:29:04,720
There are so many problems with this project that, again, I believe this board needs to put a pin in it and just take it off the CIP because while we continue to spend tens or hundreds of millions of dollars on public money on looking into this, we are not doing things that are absolutely essential if we want to continue to have people living in California.

2322
03:29:04,720 --> 03:29:11,720
One of those things is non-potable water recycling, we're not doing that we claim we can't.

2323
03:29:13,960 --> 03:29:20,200
I don't believe that we can't. If we can do potable water recycling we sure can do non-potable.

2324
03:29:20,980 --> 03:29:26,900
It's easier. We are still using drinking water to water outside spaces.

2325
03:29:27,340 --> 03:29:34,220
We are using drinking water in our toilets. We have made no efforts to move towards systems of conservation

2326
03:29:35,760 --> 03:29:39,280
and responsible reuse of water.

2327
03:29:40,200 --> 03:29:47,020
And these, we still have no system in place on a systemic basis.

2328
03:29:47,380 --> 03:29:51,680
Other than tiny water barrels and trust me, I still don't know how to set that thing up.

2329
03:29:51,960 --> 03:29:53,160
And it costs a lot of money.

2330
03:29:53,460 --> 03:29:55,880
But anyway, other than these individual water barrels,

2331
03:29:56,300 --> 03:29:59,140
we have no system of storm water capture.

2332
03:29:59,140 --> 03:29:59,960
which is

2333
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:08,000
Basically, free water. And all this matters because we have already heard that there is a large and growing

2334
03:30:08,000 --> 03:30:17,060
percentage of people in our county who are spending far more than 10 percent. I'm sorry, did I miss something?

2335
03:30:18,100 --> 03:30:23,560
What I think it might be important for you to consider that in your districts, both of your districts,

2336
03:30:23,560 --> 03:30:32,520
You have constituents and voters who currently right now spend more than 10% of their income on water.

2337
03:30:33,700 --> 03:30:39,620
And we need to keep these folks in mind.

2338
03:30:40,500 --> 03:30:41,940
We make our decisions.

2339
03:30:42,820 --> 03:30:46,160
We need to think about the people we impact.

2340
03:30:46,160 --> 03:30:56,540
The fact that since I was elected to this board, I have not once been able to vote in any manner whatsoever about this

2341
03:30:57,160 --> 03:31:04,360
Pateco Dam in Reservoir, there is something wrong with that situation.

2342
03:31:05,400 --> 03:31:12,220
I was elected on a platform where I stayed in my opposition to it.

2343
03:31:12,220 --> 03:31:21,350
My my the constituents oppose this and I think Mr. Kennedy for his words which which speak for my

2344
03:31:21,700 --> 03:31:23,500
Those words speak to my

2345
03:31:24,100 --> 03:31:27,180
constituents in power in power

2346
03:31:29,260 --> 03:31:37,640
Yes, I think it's time plenty of time director. I think there are other people that need to speak

2347
03:31:38,660 --> 03:31:39,100
our

2348
03:31:40,200 --> 03:31:41,020
losses

2349
03:31:42,400 --> 03:31:51,300
We need to stop sinking money into this money pit because there are people that depend on us and we report to them.

2350
03:31:51,740 --> 03:31:52,040
Thank you.

2351
03:31:54,170 --> 03:31:54,530
Who's next?

2352
03:31:54,810 --> 03:31:55,370
Vice Chair.

2353
03:31:55,950 --> 03:31:58,130
We have Director Bell and then we have Director Grille.

2354
03:31:58,810 --> 03:31:59,330
Director Bell?

2355
03:32:01,660 --> 03:32:02,100
Yeah.

2356
03:32:02,220 --> 03:32:02,540
Thanks.

2357
03:32:03,840 --> 03:32:06,760
This is going to make it clear a couple of things.

2358
03:32:08,020 --> 03:32:13,180
There is going to be some kind of proposal coming back to us because we can act on anything right now.

2359
03:32:13,180 --> 03:32:19,780
So, this is an item, the attorney just told us it's an item, a view, it's not an item of

2360
03:32:19,780 --> 03:32:25,940
action on the agenda, so we can't direct anything, but we can have stuff, we can act in.

2361
03:32:27,260 --> 03:32:36,380
They have stuff come back to us and my, my request again would be to have an independent

2362
03:32:36,380 --> 03:32:46,080
it costs for you by independent cost and scope review of this project done at this time due to

2363
03:32:46,080 --> 03:32:56,440
the fact that we have so many changes in our budget and turmoil in our funding sources.

2364
03:32:56,860 --> 03:33:02,220
I would like to see that done and I would like to see that agenda is input on the agenda

2365
03:33:02,220 --> 03:33:06,300
and discuss so that we can decide if we want to have an independent

2366
03:33:07,360 --> 03:33:23,020
review of the cost of this project and, you know, it kind of determines to me because I see the numbers on all the other projects change so much, and the shifting of money and costs, I just want to see that.

2367
03:33:23,020 --> 03:33:29,840
done for this project, this way beyond the cost of any other project that we are going to have.

2368
03:33:31,440 --> 03:33:38,580
So I really believe that would be necessary. And I think if we do approve the project,

2369
03:33:39,340 --> 03:33:45,980
such an activity would result in a carefully planned, a better carefully planned

2370
03:33:45,980 --> 03:33:52,840
and cost it out project that wouldn't take away money down the road from other projects

2371
03:33:53,540 --> 03:33:58,980
that we need to do in our five-year cap on prudent budget.

2372
03:33:59,080 --> 03:34:04,520
I don't want this to be the project that drains the resources of the agency from other

2373
03:34:04,520 --> 03:34:05,120
projects.

2374
03:34:05,560 --> 03:34:08,060
And that's the concern I have given our trends.

2375
03:34:08,520 --> 03:34:11,400
I also think that another question, Ligley.

2376
03:34:11,840 --> 03:34:18,800
And one time I asked, there was a, who is asked the question when I first got on the board.

2377
03:34:18,880 --> 03:34:27,580
I think it was in about a year ago, a year and a half ago, I said, well, who is this partner

2378
03:34:28,040 --> 03:34:33,540
that we're talking about? And I kind of was told to shut up, you know, you can't talk about that.

2379
03:34:33,760 --> 03:34:39,280
It's not, you know, I got criticized for it, you know, right here at the meeting told you,

2380
03:34:39,280 --> 03:34:48,360
I was private, you can't really bring that up and I wanted to know who was and they said we don't know.

2381
03:34:49,380 --> 03:34:52,280
So I got a concern about that.

2382
03:34:53,620 --> 03:34:59,840
My concern is if somebody is negotiating with partners.

2383
03:35:00,000 --> 03:35:05,620
I want to know who it is, and I want to know who it is, and I want to know who it is, private, and I want to know if we

2384
03:35:05,620 --> 03:35:13,740
how, what is the relationship between the board and that negotiation should the board members be involved in that? No, probably.

2385
03:35:14,580 --> 03:35:22,180
But I think it's not really clear given the fact that people are coming to board members, obviously we heard today

2386
03:35:22,180 --> 03:35:29,740
and suggesting that they be partners with us. So if that's not clear, I think there's some problems

2387
03:35:31,040 --> 03:35:44,050
I think there's some problems and I think that has to be very clear how that's done in the process for that.

2388
03:35:44,530 --> 03:35:54,830
So that we are conducting ourselves with integrity and fairness and we are looking out for the taxpayers of Santa Clara County.

2389
03:35:54,830 --> 03:36:01,930
When those kind of arrangements or agreements are done, and I think it's very fair, it's very, it's a very fair question.

2390
03:36:02,170 --> 03:36:09,610
I think maybe we ought to have a process for that, so I would suggest that be clarify.

2391
03:36:11,270 --> 03:36:12,550
Thank you.

2392
03:36:12,890 --> 03:36:14,070
Thank you, Chair.

2393
03:36:14,790 --> 03:36:16,010
Direct of Aurella?

2394
03:36:17,130 --> 03:36:18,170
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

2395
03:36:18,170 --> 03:36:28,790
So, recently we've learned that the Lasvaceros project from Costa County has been dissolved

2396
03:36:28,790 --> 03:36:39,050
and being a member of the JPI as a representative of Valley Water and Director Santos as an alternate.

2397
03:36:39,050 --> 03:36:47,050
We've learned that there's approximately $100 million that have been collected from all the various

2398
03:36:47,050 --> 03:36:49,890
partners on this particular project.

2399
03:36:51,870 --> 03:37:01,930
So, in having some discussions with folks in the know, those dollars could potentially be available

2400
03:37:01,930 --> 03:37:07,490
to transfer those partners to the Particle Project.

2401
03:37:08,310 --> 03:37:11,630
And it's not a given, but it's a potential.

2402
03:37:13,010 --> 03:37:16,430
Water storage is extremely important in our region.

2403
03:37:17,930 --> 03:37:22,490
As our county, Santa Clara County, it continues to exponentially grow.

2404
03:37:23,530 --> 03:37:25,890
Water storage is a must.

2405
03:37:26,910 --> 03:37:30,390
Now, I hear people talk about the quality of our water.

2406
03:37:31,110 --> 03:37:34,450
Our treated water is north of Bailey Avenue.

2407
03:37:34,450 --> 03:37:39,270
in southern Santa Clara County up into San Jose.

2408
03:37:40,190 --> 03:37:44,430
Three water treatment facilities, one water purification facility,

2409
03:37:44,930 --> 03:37:46,790
from Bailey Avenue south to Gilroy.

2410
03:37:47,810 --> 03:37:50,430
All the water that is potable water is groundwater.

2411
03:37:51,430 --> 03:37:53,350
No attitudes, no filtration.

2412
03:37:54,110 --> 03:37:56,830
It's the purest cleanest water in our reach.

2413
03:37:57,170 --> 03:38:00,590
Use for agriculture, use for watering our lawns,

2414
03:38:01,410 --> 03:38:03,890
washing our cars, and for drinking and taking a bath.

2415
03:38:04,550 --> 03:38:13,030
So, and that's the largest part of our account, so when we talk about water issues affecting the entire county, it's not affecting South County.

2416
03:38:13,670 --> 03:38:24,330
So I think it's important that we, and by the way, we recently attended a luncheon with Mr. Stock, who is the executive director of the Bureau of Reclamation,

2417
03:38:24,330 --> 03:38:34,470
with the San Luis Delton and daughter water authority members, and ultimately that resulted in a tour with him here at our Anderson Reservoir Project.

2418
03:38:35,310 --> 03:38:42,090
Ryan was there, and others were there, we met him, and we spoke with him, and he has a check-up.

2419
03:38:42,990 --> 03:38:53,530
He represents a federal government, and he has interested to learn how perhaps, perhaps, there could be an involvement with the federal dollars in addition to Lithia

2420
03:38:53,530 --> 03:38:59,610
that we're looking at, how they can involve themselves in water storage projects in the Santa Clara

2421
03:38:59,610 --> 03:39:05,430
County. So again, we're at a what? Approximately two million people, plus or minus? What are we going

2422
03:39:05,430 --> 03:39:11,150
to look like in 10 years? Are all those people going to be leaving and we're going to have less people

2423
03:39:11,150 --> 03:39:17,910
or more people coming into California? A just certain report yesterday. The city of Morgan Hill

2424
03:39:17,910 --> 03:39:24,690
is building an additional 4,000 homes, 4,000 homes in the town that I live in.

2425
03:39:24,950 --> 03:39:28,850
That's one little town, that's insane, that's incredible, but it's happening.

2426
03:39:29,610 --> 03:39:31,850
So I think the exponential growth that we're experiencing,

2427
03:39:32,530 --> 03:39:36,610
there are opportunities to partner with federal agencies, with state agencies,

2428
03:39:37,190 --> 03:39:40,790
all we have to do is ask and sit at the table with these folks.

2429
03:39:41,310 --> 03:39:43,970
They put their hands out, they said, what can we do?

2430
03:39:44,810 --> 03:39:46,390
So let's sit down, let's make a deal.

2431
03:39:47,130 --> 03:39:55,950
That's what I'm talking about. Thank you. Who else about you? Everything's okay, Tom, go right ahead.

2432
03:39:56,970 --> 03:39:59,210
Um, just wanted to ask staff.

2433
03:40:00,000 --> 03:40:07,120
How much money did, from Proposition 1 did the board allocate to, not our board, but I mean, the

2434
03:40:07,120 --> 03:40:11,220
water board allocate to the loss for carols project?

2435
03:40:12,760 --> 03:40:20,100
I don't have that number off the top of my head, but they are voting next week and two on what they

2436
03:40:20,100 --> 03:40:22,820
are going to do with that number or that amount.

2437
03:40:22,820 --> 03:40:25,780
And I'm standing in the case in...

2438
03:40:25,780 --> 03:40:27,720
No, I'm not. Sorry.

2439
03:40:28,520 --> 03:40:30,700
The CWC meeting is the 19th.

2440
03:40:30,720 --> 03:40:40,300
Yes, I understand the indication is that most of the members support distributing that money to all of the other approved projects, including particular.

2441
03:40:41,360 --> 03:40:45,640
That's what it sounds like, but they have not made a formal difference.

2442
03:40:45,980 --> 03:40:47,340
So they have their meeting, yes.

2443
03:40:47,340 --> 03:40:54,260
Okay, I don't have anything further. There's anything further. There's nothing further than we'll move right on to our next item.

2444
03:40:59,120 --> 03:41:00,240
8.2.

2445
03:41:04,860 --> 03:41:05,980
Thank you, Ryan.

2446
03:41:06,780 --> 03:41:08,140
Yes, good evening.

2447
03:41:10,280 --> 03:41:15,360
I'm a charter deputy operating officer, dam safety and capital, delivery division.

2448
03:41:15,960 --> 03:41:19,400
Yes, tonight we have an item for the Anderson Dam Tunnel Project.

2449
03:41:19,400 --> 03:41:24,780
This is a change order that requires a board approval based on its size of $17 million.

2450
03:41:25,680 --> 03:41:30,960
There's a couple of pieces in your packet that go back on the history of this, the most recent.

2451
03:41:31,460 --> 03:41:35,920
In January of this year, the board approved an additional $40 million in contingency.

2452
03:41:35,920 --> 03:41:40,380
This $17 million dollar change order would be coming out of that $40 million dollars.

2453
03:41:40,460 --> 03:41:43,920
So that's the main thing that that $40 million dollars was allocated for.

2454
03:41:44,340 --> 03:41:47,100
It's for this big change that we knew was coming.

2455
03:41:47,520 --> 03:41:50,840
For quite some time and we finally got a cost in the past couple of weeks.

2456
03:41:51,260 --> 03:41:54,800
And we're bringing this forth because we really need to approve this quickly.

2457
03:41:55,460 --> 03:41:59,820
The steel market is expected to drastically spike in material costs.

2458
03:42:00,200 --> 03:42:04,000
And the contractor needs to get going on this work right away and put in the orders for the steel.

2459
03:42:04,000 --> 03:42:29,120
So appreciate the special CIP committee that was held last week to expedite this item and there's a couple other items that are included in your packet back into 2021 when the contract was awarded we did have a additional or the original contingency of $40 million in the different levels of approvals were stated in that May 2021 or agenda memo.

2460
03:42:29,120 --> 03:42:35,780
The attachment for the April 27, 2021 board agenda memo, actually the wrong attachment got put in there.

2461
03:42:36,040 --> 03:42:42,900
You got 7.1, that was a county parks P-way that was related to Anderson, but what you needed was 7.3.

2462
03:42:43,180 --> 03:42:52,820
And that was the contractor's bid as well as the engineers estimate, but have no fear that was included as an attachment in your January 2025 packet.

2463
03:42:53,160 --> 03:42:55,180
So you could go look at that if you'd like.

2464
03:42:55,180 --> 03:43:04,480
So that's kind of the background. I have a short presentation. If you'd like to see some superstars of this work that we're talking about, it's going to cost us a lot of money to complete.

2465
03:43:05,960 --> 03:43:11,160
Yeah, Ryan, I think it's important to explain how we got here.

2466
03:43:12,120 --> 03:43:12,940
Yes. So go on.

2467
03:43:13,340 --> 03:43:15,740
Yeah, it is quite a history.

2468
03:43:16,560 --> 03:43:19,340
So kind of starting off with the project itself.

2469
03:43:19,340 --> 03:43:23,960
The FERC order compliance project is how the Anderson Dam Tunnel Project came to be.

2470
03:43:24,000 --> 03:43:32,740
It was originally part of the ADSRP conglomerate as Dr. Shua mentioned or the program as I like to call it.

2471
03:43:33,020 --> 03:43:40,380
And so that came out in 2021 and sort of pulled the Anderson Dam Tunnel portion out of that program and became its own contract.

2472
03:43:40,520 --> 03:43:49,120
And we were only at about a 60% design at that time, so we seriously worked to complete a package to put out to bid for construction to expedite this work.

2473
03:43:49,120 --> 03:43:54,300
as fast as possible. So the design wasn't completely approved and a lot of different aspects

2474
03:43:54,300 --> 03:44:01,060
by FERC and DSOD when we did award the contract and we went in knowing that. It's not a preferred

2475
03:44:01,060 --> 03:44:05,940
way to conduct a project, but that's what we were faced with at the time. So there were some changes

2476
03:44:05,940 --> 03:44:11,440
off the bat once we did get the approvals from FERC and DSOD. And then as we went through the

2477
03:44:11,440 --> 03:44:17,100
contractor got the new changes and looked at them and then started developing shop drawings, actual

2478
03:44:17,100 --> 03:44:22,680
rebar details. We noticed some discrepancies where we weren't able to wrap the bars around in the

2479
03:44:22,680 --> 03:44:28,520
section based on their size, the bigger radius for wrapping. It was a pretty technical analysis

2480
03:44:28,520 --> 03:44:33,280
they went through, so we came up with a different way to place these bars in the structural

2481
03:44:33,280 --> 03:44:38,500
section using t-heads and I'll show you some pictures of what I mean by that. And then most recently

2482
03:44:38,500 --> 03:44:44,620
we did a articulated joint mock-up, so we actually built a couple of these sections outside the tunnel

2483
03:44:44,620 --> 03:44:49,140
to see what the kind of construction challenges we're going to be, because it's very complicated.

2484
03:44:49,460 --> 03:44:52,900
It says in your run in the bill, steel reinforcement and concrete structure.

2485
03:44:53,540 --> 03:44:56,520
And so we did a articulated joint mock-up, had some additional changes,

2486
03:44:56,740 --> 03:44:59,980
got an idea of how the sequencing of the work would have to be done.

2487
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:07,060
In order to complete it efficiently and so that gave us kind of a time and that's how we were able to develop a new cost for this.

2488
03:45:07,320 --> 03:45:22,080
And along with the cost is some material escalation since we awarded the contract. So there has surely been a large impact on steel prices since 2021 when the steel market was a little bit different, then it had become over the subsequent years.

2489
03:45:22,680 --> 03:45:28,760
So that's kind of the history, but now I'll get into what are we actually talking about here with these articulated segments.

2490
03:45:29,400 --> 03:45:35,400
So here you have kind of overview of the tunnel project, the reservoir is on the right side of the screen here.

2491
03:45:35,620 --> 03:45:40,120
And the tunnel takes the water to the left side here into the coyote creek north channel.

2492
03:45:40,380 --> 03:45:44,500
These are going to be the diversion flows for the Anderson dam seismic retrofit project.

2493
03:45:44,900 --> 03:45:51,600
And then we'll be converting this tunnel into basically our utility tunnel during ADSRP and putting a pipe through it.

2494
03:45:51,600 --> 03:45:56,040
of about six and a half foot diameter pipe as well as a smaller three-foot diameter pipe inside

2495
03:45:56,040 --> 03:46:00,920
of this tunnel and crews will be able to walk through and inspect these pipes and these articulated

2496
03:46:00,920 --> 03:46:05,720
segments are built to kind of move throughout the tunnel. I'll show you that on a subsequent slide.

2497
03:46:06,440 --> 03:46:10,620
But what we found during this project and one of the reasons this project has taken quite some time

2498
03:46:10,620 --> 03:46:17,580
is some new fault traces that kind of run pretty much north-south near the dam and those cross

2499
03:46:17,580 --> 03:46:21,700
through the tunnel and we had identified those in geotechnical

2500
03:46:21,700 --> 03:46:25,200
borings and then we found more details on that when we did

2501
03:46:25,200 --> 03:46:27,680
trenching on the surface and then when we tunneled through

2502
03:46:27,680 --> 03:46:31,360
the section we saw those first hand we reached out and touched them

2503
03:46:31,360 --> 03:46:34,240
and map exactly where those are so that's where we place these

2504
03:46:34,240 --> 03:46:37,100
articulated segments that I'll show you on this next page here.

2505
03:46:38,720 --> 03:46:42,900
So let's start on the right this is a 3D analysis software that the

2506
03:46:42,900 --> 03:46:46,100
designer uses and this is showing one of these

2507
03:46:46,100 --> 03:46:53,540
You can see the offset, so a part of the ground is pushing up into the left and the other part next to it.

2508
03:46:54,000 --> 03:46:59,200
On the other side of the fault zone is pushing down to the right, the offset that the tunnel could experience.

2509
03:46:59,600 --> 03:47:03,280
This is like feet, this is like three to four feet of offset that could occur.

2510
03:47:03,380 --> 03:47:08,560
If one of these seismic faults becomes active and displaces right through the tunnel.

2511
03:47:09,220 --> 03:47:15,720
So these articulated segments you can see them along here, they're modeled to be basically discontinuous sections of concrete.

2512
03:47:15,720 --> 03:47:20,160
and very, very heavily structured concrete with a lot of rebar inside of them.

2513
03:47:20,460 --> 03:47:23,580
And so they're either 5 feet or 10 feet in length throughout the tunnel,

2514
03:47:23,600 --> 03:47:28,100
and we place them right where we identify these false zones in order to protect the tunnel

2515
03:47:28,100 --> 03:47:31,840
and then then of one of these seismic events. And then like I said, they'll be

2516
03:47:31,840 --> 03:47:35,700
eventually a pipeline that runs through this tunnel, then the pipeline will be on sliding

2517
03:47:35,700 --> 03:47:41,180
supports. And so if the concrete moves around it, the pipeline can maintain and still be

2518
03:47:41,180 --> 03:47:44,600
able to get water out of the reservoir after a large seismic event.

2519
03:47:44,600 --> 03:47:51,020
And just to give a little bit of scale on the left here, this is the completed tunnel excavation.

2520
03:47:51,280 --> 03:47:56,420
So this is about eight inches of shot-create that was used to just support the ground as we excavated the tunnel.

2521
03:47:57,060 --> 03:48:03,400
So this articulated segment will go inside of this and run the whole length of the tunnel as well as standard

2522
03:48:03,400 --> 03:48:10,700
cast-and-place concrete, but it's about a two-foot thick wall that goes in between this initial excavation

2523
03:48:10,700 --> 03:48:14,560
final or initial lining, and also on the ground of the tunnel or the

2524
03:48:14,560 --> 03:48:17,200
inwards. So it's about a two-foot section all the way around.

2525
03:48:19,220 --> 03:48:20,020
So here's some of the

2526
03:48:20,020 --> 03:48:22,960
the progress of the work. So we've actually started this in the downstream

2527
03:48:22,960 --> 03:48:26,780
leg of the tunnel, so we can see what it looks like. So you see that on the left

2528
03:48:26,780 --> 03:48:32,280
the water proofing is a PVC membrane. This will prevent water from coming into the tunnel

2529
03:48:32,280 --> 03:48:35,880
that's best as we can. And you can kind of see the operation in here in the background.

2530
03:48:36,140 --> 03:48:40,240
There's three different scissor lifts putting in these steel reinforcement bars. And then on

2531
03:48:40,240 --> 03:48:45,660
right, you can see some completed sections of that arch. And so each one of these five foot

2532
03:48:45,660 --> 03:48:50,780
sections. So from here to here this is one five foot section. There's 24 of these large

2533
03:48:50,780 --> 03:48:55,600
diameter steel bars that go all the way around the arch of the tunnel. And then these little dots

2534
03:48:55,600 --> 03:48:59,960
you can see are the the t-heads I was talking about. So instead of wrapping those transverse bars

2535
03:48:59,960 --> 03:49:04,800
around the large bars we have t-heads that kind of just really just look like a t at the end

2536
03:49:04,800 --> 03:49:09,940
and lock in all those bars into place. So that's kind of what the profile looks like and then they

2537
03:49:09,940 --> 03:49:14,820
start of putting in the form work for the invert concrete that will go in the base of the tunnel.

2538
03:49:15,040 --> 03:49:19,060
So you can kind of start to see what the difference in the size of the tunnel look like there.

2539
03:49:21,010 --> 03:49:25,190
So this is when we did our articulating segment mock up outside the tunnel.

2540
03:49:25,330 --> 03:49:27,730
So we've got an idea of what the form work will look like.

2541
03:49:27,850 --> 03:49:31,270
So once we complete all that steel reinforcement or rebar placement,

2542
03:49:31,630 --> 03:49:34,770
we'll start putting in the form work and pouring concrete behind this form.

2543
03:49:34,930 --> 03:49:39,610
So these are collapsible forms made especially for for tunnel concrete work.

2544
03:49:39,610 --> 03:49:48,650
And so you can see that the work going into this is pretty high tech system here and then on the right, you see the completed product here.

2545
03:49:48,830 --> 03:49:59,810
So this is you can see that two foot thick concrete section has all that heavy steel reinforcement in it. We did one five foot section up to this kind of maroon line here and then a 10 foot section. So we practice both.

2546
03:50:00,000 --> 03:50:06,600
Of the different kind of details we have throughout the tunnel. This red section here is actually a low strength

2547
03:50:06,600 --> 03:50:11,980
concrete that we put in between the segments. So there's a gap in between with just air. But we

2548
03:50:11,980 --> 03:50:17,480
fill that with concrete because in order to pass the diversion of flows. Once we start ADSRP, we have to

2549
03:50:17,480 --> 03:50:22,560
actually put water right through this tunnel like this. And then during ADSRP, we make that conversion

2550
03:50:22,560 --> 03:50:27,200
and run the pipeline through it. So this tunnel will at first carry water right through it. And

2551
03:50:27,200 --> 03:50:28,600
that's why we need to fill the gaps.

2552
03:50:28,800 --> 03:50:30,400
And then those, that'll be chipped out later

2553
03:50:30,400 --> 03:50:33,240
when they perform the pipeline work inside.

2554
03:50:36,120 --> 03:50:37,240
That's all I had to share.

2555
03:50:37,820 --> 03:50:39,260
Hopefully that all sunk in real well.

2556
03:50:39,740 --> 03:50:40,160
Thank you.

2557
03:50:40,380 --> 03:50:41,340
Thank you, Ryan.

2558
03:50:42,560 --> 03:50:46,160
Let's see if there's some questions left here.

2559
03:50:47,320 --> 03:50:48,880
Anybody to my left, right?

2560
03:50:49,020 --> 03:50:49,360
Any questions?

2561
03:50:51,460 --> 03:50:51,720
Public?

2562
03:50:52,600 --> 03:50:54,760
OK, let's send it, take a motion then.

2563
03:50:57,420 --> 03:51:01,220
There's a motion by director Verella, a second by director

2564
03:51:01,220 --> 03:51:06,120
issue, there's a now a question was comment by director Eisenberg.

2565
03:51:10,100 --> 03:51:15,160
First of all, I want to say Mr. Carter that I have great respect for your work.

2566
03:51:15,840 --> 03:51:16,900
You do a lot here.

2567
03:51:17,100 --> 03:51:24,720
You contribute a ton and you do many things at the same time and it's I appreciate what

2568
03:51:24,720 --> 03:51:25,420
you do.

2569
03:51:26,180 --> 03:51:32,430
It's not quality and when I say that it's not any criticism of your work.

2570
03:51:32,430 --> 03:51:37,800
I think what the comment I'm making is I think more of a criticism of the way this

2571
03:51:38,490 --> 03:51:45,610
word and this district operates and that is a problem that I have had for a while and again

2572
03:51:45,610 --> 03:51:52,750
it doesn't reflect on any staff member and certainly not on you. And that is that it seems to me that

2573
03:51:52,750 --> 03:51:54,310
we don't

2574
03:51:54,310 --> 03:52:00,230
require ourselves to stick to the budgets we give ourselves and

2575
03:52:00,230 --> 03:52:04,270
We don't have any discipline about that.

2576
03:52:04,910 --> 03:52:10,610
And that has always battled me because I don't come from money.

2577
03:52:11,290 --> 03:52:14,270
You know, and when you don't have an unlimited budget,

2578
03:52:14,430 --> 03:52:17,610
which I think experience many of us share in our,

2579
03:52:17,770 --> 03:52:22,170
as we grew up, you, you have no choice but to stick to your budget.

2580
03:52:22,610 --> 03:52:25,330
There is no going and asking for money.

2581
03:52:25,330 --> 03:52:32,170
You just go without dinner, or you cancel that vacation plan, or you don't replace your car when it breaks.

2582
03:52:32,690 --> 03:52:37,850
I mean, these are things that people on a budget experience.

2583
03:52:38,230 --> 03:52:44,530
Now, here we are managing billions of dollars of public money.

2584
03:52:45,310 --> 03:52:55,310
And I don't feel comfortable that we don't manage it with even more discipline than we manage our person.

2585
03:52:55,310 --> 03:53:01,750
money, because this money is not our money. We hold it in trust on behalf of the taxpayers

2586
03:53:01,750 --> 03:53:06,430
and the right payers. So I think that's why we need to be even more disciplined about this.

2587
03:53:06,870 --> 03:53:13,870
And what I've seen us do is that when we see that we're going over budget, we increase the

2588
03:53:13,870 --> 03:53:23,190
buffer. We increase the size of the, what do you, the allowed to go over zone. And then we increase

2589
03:53:23,190 --> 03:53:29,250
of increase the cost and we say we're not really increasing it because it's within this extra

2590
03:53:29,250 --> 03:53:34,790
money we already set aside for it. That is not something that people can replicate in real life.

2591
03:53:35,430 --> 03:53:40,170
That is something that exists within a reality distortion field that many government entities,

2592
03:53:40,450 --> 03:53:46,590
not just ours. Often exist within where the money does seem like it is unlimited,

2593
03:53:48,790 --> 03:54:03,470
But our money is not unlimited and I, again, you know, I just, I can't keep approving these things because I feel like I'm sending the wrong message and this is not a message to you.

2594
03:54:03,710 --> 03:54:12,090
This is a message to my colleagues that we need more discipline and if we engage in things and this is not to you, but if we engage in things like more audits.

2595
03:54:12,090 --> 03:54:19,290
more if we actually had a finance committee, if we were more transparent about how we're spending

2596
03:54:19,290 --> 03:54:27,910
our money, which I've been demanding from the beginning, if we actually opened our books as we

2597
03:54:27,910 --> 03:54:35,290
should be doing, we then could actually even allow the community to participate in helping us

2598
03:54:35,290 --> 03:54:41,350
improve our systems. But this keeps repeating the same feeling over and over again, asking us to

2599
03:54:41,350 --> 03:54:47,470
trust you, but that there was no other way to do it because my colleagues refused to spend money

2600
03:54:47,470 --> 03:54:55,090
on saving money. I'm not going to support this, although it is not because you. I think you're

2601
03:54:55,090 --> 03:54:59,590
fantastic. It is because I think we need to invest in accountability.

2602
03:55:00,780 --> 03:55:06,640
Transparency, and far more oversight. That is my opinion. Thank you.

2603
03:55:06,760 --> 03:55:16,120
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Ryan. Thank you for the good work that you do. It's great.

2604
03:55:17,040 --> 03:55:26,300
So a couple of things that public may not be aware of. How many regulatory agencies are we responsible to that have to sign up on this project?

2605
03:55:27,120 --> 03:55:30,080
I think we say 14 usually when we're asked that question.

2606
03:55:30,520 --> 03:55:32,180
So every time there's a reply,

2607
03:55:32,460 --> 03:55:34,760
there's a request, there's a delay in this project,

2608
03:55:35,140 --> 03:55:37,620
because we have to respond before we can continue on that project.

2609
03:55:37,920 --> 03:55:37,960
Exactly.

2610
03:55:39,180 --> 03:55:42,460
Yeah, there's a lot of processes that are very complicated that require

2611
03:55:42,460 --> 03:55:43,920
approval outside of our control.

2612
03:55:44,200 --> 03:55:48,800
Okay, and also on the contractors that we've hired to do this project,

2613
03:55:49,880 --> 03:55:54,260
we're there to recently into re-emotivating union contracts that

2614
03:55:54,260 --> 03:55:58,980
potentially escalated the cost to the contractor, which in turn has passed on to Valley Water.

2615
03:55:59,640 --> 03:56:05,740
I'm not certain. Well, that's what I understand is occurred. And so some of these costs that

2616
03:56:06,420 --> 03:56:12,340
impacting our decision making are created outside of our bounds, and I just want to make sure that

2617
03:56:12,340 --> 03:56:17,440
the public is aware of what we have, we make decisions, but other people are also making decisions

2618
03:56:17,440 --> 03:56:23,240
on their game and what they benefit from the work that they do on the project and your money that you

2619
03:56:23,240 --> 03:56:24,620
our pain for these projects.

2620
03:56:25,020 --> 03:56:27,000
So that just want to go on the record on that.

2621
03:56:27,380 --> 03:56:30,560
Well, I also want to ask Ryan to explain to us

2622
03:56:30,560 --> 03:56:34,860
as you did to our committee, our CIP committee,

2623
03:56:36,180 --> 03:56:38,400
how we got to this 17 million.

2624
03:56:38,720 --> 03:56:44,940
This is not a situation where we have engineers

2625
03:56:44,940 --> 03:56:48,260
look at a dam and all of a sudden know everything

2626
03:56:48,260 --> 03:56:50,000
that there is to do.

2627
03:56:50,480 --> 03:56:52,480
And therefore, no exactly how much it's going to cost.

2628
03:56:52,480 --> 03:56:53,960
and then can tell us, they won.

2629
03:56:54,600 --> 03:56:55,700
This is what it takes.

2630
03:56:56,000 --> 03:56:57,140
This is what's going to happen.

2631
03:56:57,460 --> 03:56:58,680
Every time we dig in here,

2632
03:56:58,740 --> 03:56:59,660
this is what's happening.

2633
03:57:00,000 --> 03:57:01,180
This is what it's going to cost.

2634
03:57:01,580 --> 03:57:04,480
How do we get here with this $17 million specifically?

2635
03:57:06,360 --> 03:57:09,300
Yes, so once the contract is awarded to the contractor,

2636
03:57:09,880 --> 03:57:13,320
any changes to the design or the scope,

2637
03:57:13,840 --> 03:57:16,800
really kind of opens up the book for them to reprise these things.

2638
03:57:16,900 --> 03:57:18,100
So that's essentially how this went.

2639
03:57:18,140 --> 03:57:22,040
When we got the design finalized by the regulatory agencies

2640
03:57:22,040 --> 03:57:27,540
after the contract was awarded, we gave that to the contractor to review and price out, right?

2641
03:57:27,540 --> 03:57:31,700
And then like I mentioned, they went into great detail and really looking into the shop drawings

2642
03:57:31,700 --> 03:57:35,820
of how they were going to then this rebar and install it and then they had some more questions

2643
03:57:35,820 --> 03:57:40,100
that actually changed the design even more through a request for information process and our

2644
03:57:40,100 --> 03:57:45,300
engineer record. And then that goes back to the contractor for them to price that out again.

2645
03:57:45,640 --> 03:57:49,520
And then as I mentioned, there was kind of the third round of changes through the articulated

2646
03:57:49,520 --> 03:57:53,580
mock-up that would have come when we started installing it in the tunnel, how do we not

2647
03:57:53,580 --> 03:57:56,860
done this mock-up outside the tunnel. So there's some really great lessons learned.

2648
03:57:57,540 --> 03:58:02,240
What we're building here is really a novel idea. I mean, this is we're not copying it from

2649
03:58:02,240 --> 03:58:07,380
another project. This is something that our engineer record came up with to meet the requirements

2650
03:58:07,380 --> 03:58:12,700
that Furkin DSOD had for seismic safety and reliability of this tunnel when we're done with ADSRP.

2651
03:58:13,840 --> 03:58:19,500
That's really kind of the nexus of how we came up with that. But these costs that the

2652
03:58:19,500 --> 03:58:24,720
have tons and tons of backup and spreadsheets. We have a very qualified professional construction

2653
03:58:24,720 --> 03:58:29,800
management team, outside consultant team that works with our own internal staff daily in the

2654
03:58:29,800 --> 03:58:34,440
field that reviews these cost estimates the contractor provides for each and every change order

2655
03:58:34,440 --> 03:58:38,400
and goes through these a great length looking at the schedule and the sequencing and the cost

2656
03:58:38,400 --> 03:58:43,200
of the materials the cost of the labor and really analyzing every single dollar. These guys keep it

2657
03:58:43,200 --> 03:58:49,480
really really tight for us. This is the job that they do and we're overseeing it and they're

2658
03:58:49,480 --> 03:58:54,900
So this is the number we arrived at is just under 17 million for this final lining work

2659
03:58:54,900 --> 03:59:01,200
But there was I think the original bid was about 9 million for the same work. So that was what was in the original

2660
03:59:01,200 --> 03:59:06,620
Mister chair me. I just make us yes, but it sounds like this cathedral look internal

2661
03:59:07,380 --> 03:59:13,680
We probably came the right time because when I read the news this morning it said steel it went up

2662
03:59:13,680 --> 03:59:15,280
I believe over 50% terror.

2663
03:59:15,880 --> 03:59:17,740
So I want to say thank you.

2664
03:59:17,920 --> 03:59:18,540
And John, you're right.

2665
03:59:18,640 --> 03:59:20,760
We started out think, but tell Rick,

2666
03:59:21,120 --> 03:59:22,800
12 regulatory, and now it's 14.

2667
03:59:23,280 --> 03:59:24,540
So we can go on and on.

2668
03:59:24,780 --> 03:59:27,760
That is, we got to think we have a motion on the floor.

2669
03:59:29,500 --> 03:59:29,900
Yes.

2670
03:59:30,700 --> 03:59:33,280
All right, so we'll call, roll call then.

2671
03:59:35,060 --> 03:59:38,100
Mr. Chair, do we have another comment from the virtualizing room?

2672
03:59:38,180 --> 03:59:39,360
Yes, Derek, that is a burden.

2673
03:59:40,360 --> 03:59:52,120
I just want to say that there are people who are CFOs for hire, who can actually help build risk models into any initial projection of cost.

2674
03:59:53,200 --> 03:59:59,400
So while you don't know how much the price of steel is going to go up, or how contracts are going to be renegotiated.

2675
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:26,040
A CFO for higher or other financial planning professional can build risk into the model and round up instead of down. Businesses and the private sector do this all the time. It's better to under promise and over deliver. So make your initial, initial estimate higher instead of going over the lower one and you avoid these problems. So that's my point. Thank you.

2676
04:00:28,820 --> 04:00:30,060
Roko.

2677
04:00:31,400 --> 04:00:32,640
Director Baller.

2678
04:00:33,040 --> 04:00:33,900
Director Ball.

2679
04:00:34,500 --> 04:00:35,560
Director Eisenberg.

2680
04:00:36,720 --> 04:00:37,640
Director Shua.

2681
04:00:39,240 --> 04:00:40,240
Vice Chair Santas.

2682
04:00:41,220 --> 04:00:42,040
Director Verella.

2683
04:00:42,920 --> 04:00:43,720
Chair Estimera.

2684
04:00:45,180 --> 04:00:45,800
Motion passes.

2685
04:00:46,640 --> 04:00:46,880
Yes.

2686
04:00:46,960 --> 04:00:47,180
I'm sorry.

2687
04:00:47,320 --> 04:00:50,780
We moved right along to CEO and Chief reports.

2688
04:00:53,270 --> 04:00:53,430
Yes.

2689
04:00:53,510 --> 04:00:54,210
Good afternoon.

2690
04:00:54,790 --> 04:00:55,790
Chair and members of the Board.

2691
04:00:55,950 --> 04:00:57,030
Because of the late hour,

2692
04:00:57,190 --> 04:00:59,190
I'm going to just do one important C.

2693
04:00:59,190 --> 04:01:03,810
report and ask Chris Akes to do that place. Thank you. Good evening. Again,

2694
04:01:03,830 --> 04:01:07,730
Characama members of the board. We have the Storm Report February 25th through March

2695
04:01:07,730 --> 04:01:12,670
10th attached. We did get a light storm system if through in the area at that point,

2696
04:01:12,870 --> 04:01:16,490
but no flooding was observed. However, we would like to call out the fact that on upper

2697
04:01:16,490 --> 04:01:23,730
penitentiary, we did remove about 90 cubic yards of woody debris in order to mitigate some

2698
04:01:23,730 --> 04:01:28,190
flooding that occurred during the February 13th storm. So that work was completed over

2699
04:01:28,190 --> 04:01:31,550
this weekend, so I'll big shout out to our crews for doing the overtime to get that done.

2700
04:01:32,090 --> 04:01:34,390
Mr. Chair, I also want to comment on that. Thank you, Chris.

2701
04:01:35,010 --> 04:01:38,730
Yes. We get a lot of my residents are calling and they really appreciate the work,

2702
04:01:38,850 --> 04:01:39,990
so thank you.

2703
04:01:41,170 --> 04:01:44,050
Understand, and then some more to come in Wednesday and after?

2704
04:01:45,030 --> 04:01:50,170
Yes. Correct. We've got a forecast. It storms mostly to hit Thursday, two fronts,

2705
04:01:50,410 --> 04:01:54,610
one early and one late. They were supposed to come earlier in the week, but they've shifted back.

2706
04:01:57,760 --> 04:01:57,980
All right.

2707
04:01:59,340 --> 04:02:10,040
There's nothing further on the reports, but move to our review of the fiscal year 2020-2025 board policy planning calendar.

2708
04:02:11,760 --> 04:02:15,880
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just have a couple of updates to the board policy and planning calendar.

2709
04:02:16,500 --> 04:02:24,140
The CIP update and the Bichaco Reservoir expansion project update were scheduled for February, but were heard today in March.

2710
04:02:24,140 --> 04:02:31,140
The water supply master plan update scheduled for the March has been canceled due to the lack of new information.

2711
04:02:32,420 --> 04:02:38,400
The greenhouse gas reduction plan will now be presented alongside the Climate Action Plan in June.

2712
04:02:39,400 --> 04:02:47,620
And the proposed revisions to EL6 acid management has been added to the calendar and will be going to the full board for an update in March.

2713
04:02:47,820 --> 04:02:49,140
And that's it. Thank you.

2714
04:02:50,760 --> 04:02:55,100
Thank you. Okay, there's nothing further. We'll move right along to a boy member reports.

2715
04:02:55,360 --> 04:02:58,800
We'll start with direct the bell this time from the other side.

2716
04:03:06,020 --> 04:03:07,800
Quickly, I got, you know, there we go.

2717
04:03:09,740 --> 04:03:15,600
I wanted to tell the staff that a great job with the landscape summit on Zoom that was wonderful.

2718
04:03:17,720 --> 04:03:30,660
Even I learned a lot, I actually tore all the lawn out in my front yard with Pat, my wife and we planted native species in the front yard.

2719
04:03:31,800 --> 04:03:37,360
So, I got inspired and I said, well, what can other people do that?

2720
04:03:37,480 --> 04:03:42,860
Native species, little water users, you know, like we could do more of that.

2721
04:03:42,860 --> 04:03:54,060
So I'm working on my Valley Water Board newsletter, describing how Pat and I did our project.

2722
04:03:55,880 --> 04:04:01,620
Okay, so it's first thing, I went to the Emergency Operational Council chair by members

2723
04:04:03,520 --> 04:04:31,500
We had the discussion of the system of project in Los Banners at the Joint Powers Authority, meaning the Santa Trees, the Fodials Association met with me and staff on the Los Alamedos Canal, which is a several mile long canal.

2724
04:04:31,500 --> 04:04:38,580
that we have an easement in the centuries, the hills behind us over here, and we don't

2725
04:04:38,580 --> 04:04:44,760
use it. We haven't used it for a long time, but we maintain it and we're spending a lot

2726
04:04:44,760 --> 04:04:53,660
of money maintaining it. So I think the city put on their master plan that would be a trail,

2727
04:04:53,660 --> 04:04:59,760
So now everybody's walking along Ark property, a trail, thank you very much.

2728
04:05:01,530 --> 04:05:21,870
Bicycles are not allowed. So, but I think there has to be some kind of transition if we're not going to use it, but we're spending a lot of dough maintaining this. And we got budget problems, we got other money, everything's spent our money on, right? So anyway, so that's the discussion there.

2729
04:05:23,710 --> 04:05:28,370
joint venture state of the valley was very interesting. I think we should have the

2730
04:05:28,370 --> 04:05:31,130
slideshow sent to all the board members.

2731
04:05:33,370 --> 04:05:36,910
And I generally don't like David Brooks,

2732
04:05:37,270 --> 04:05:45,290
the ninth columnist too much, because I certainly like his East Coast snobbery. But he actually

2733
04:05:45,290 --> 04:05:54,510
a good speech at San Jose State. And last night, I attended the VGA. The VGA is working on the

2734
04:05:54,510 --> 04:06:05,050
brand-em station housing. It's located actually on a park and ridelaut that's adjacent to

2735
04:06:05,610 --> 04:06:12,410
Canoe's Creek. Okay, and they have these parking lots that they're going to convert to

2736
04:06:13,850 --> 04:06:23,410
housing sites. And some of these parking lots are adjacent to our property. So there might be some room for some kind of like collaborative

2737
04:06:24,470 --> 04:06:37,490
activity kind of like what we did on Cherria Avenue in terms of the homeless. And, you know, I think I think it's worth looking at that's my opinion. So, and we're going to discuss more of this in our committee,

2738
04:06:37,490 --> 04:06:43,370
with your sandals, and I think next week we're having a meeting, right?

2739
04:06:44,150 --> 04:06:57,030
So, very good week, I just hope that all these federal employees that are being laid off

2740
04:06:57,030 --> 04:07:06,070
aren't working on our projects, I think they are, but I'm particularly worried about the federal

2741
04:07:06,070 --> 04:07:08,770
impact, and here's for more.

2742
04:07:09,250 --> 04:07:10,690
They're not there to give us permits.

2743
04:07:10,930 --> 04:07:11,970
We're really going to be a trouble.

2744
04:07:12,210 --> 04:07:17,470
People want to know if these federal layoffs at these agencies,

2745
04:07:17,850 --> 04:07:19,710
they're supposedly reviewing our projects,

2746
04:07:20,270 --> 04:07:22,770
are working on funding our projects,

2747
04:07:23,290 --> 04:07:27,530
are is this going to cost us more money, taxpayers?

2748
04:07:28,250 --> 04:07:30,230
Yeah, I think we ought to find,

2749
04:07:30,650 --> 04:07:34,490
maybe we have our folks come up with some kind of report for us, okay?

2750
04:07:34,490 --> 04:07:38,490
Anyway, I think that's something to watch out for, okay? Thank you.

2751
04:07:39,430 --> 04:07:48,350
Thank you. And I believe our delegation into Washington DC hopefully will have some answers.

2752
04:07:48,650 --> 04:07:51,570
We'll see. They're right to Eisenberg.

2753
04:07:53,130 --> 04:07:59,570
Yeah, it's a tough time. But I read the books, especially Octavia Butler's parable of a sewer.

2754
04:07:59,570 --> 04:08:04,950
everyone needs to read. You know, and what happens next is the state like California objects,

2755
04:08:05,470 --> 04:08:11,030
then comes the Civil War, and then comes the military dictatorship. So let's not, let's try to figure

2756
04:08:11,030 --> 04:08:18,970
out a way to amicably resolve disagreements, which is what I always say. As to my report,

2757
04:08:19,730 --> 04:08:25,970
you know, it's going to rain and because of the hostility towards the project that protects my

2758
04:08:25,970 --> 04:08:33,930
neighborhood, including my street, which is almost entirely immigrant and not all in English

2759
04:08:33,930 --> 04:08:38,970
speaking. And we were the street among the like the three streets hit the hardest in the 1998

2760
04:08:38,970 --> 04:08:44,150
flood. I was told the what I'm renting. I was told the water went up five feet. Every time

2761
04:08:44,150 --> 04:08:51,270
it rains, I'm surrounded by mostly seniors who don't speak much English who are scared.

2762
04:08:52,210 --> 04:08:59,970
So I hope that's another issue we can resolve amicably and that I can be there to stand up for my neighbors who are wishing I were there.

2763
04:09:00,650 --> 04:09:03,490
So, yeah, thank you.

2764
04:09:05,560 --> 04:09:06,080
Vice Chair.

2765
04:09:07,060 --> 04:09:07,920
Yeah, thank you, Tom.

2766
04:09:08,280 --> 04:09:13,340
I'm just want to show the hand here in the small business development center.

2767
04:09:13,760 --> 04:09:16,800
Yeah, we take out the work of small films for all of us.

2768
04:09:16,800 --> 04:09:19,700
It was given to me at the Royal Toronto table.

2769
04:09:20,140 --> 04:09:26,140
They were very proud of the appreciated artwork to help support small businesses and that's

2770
04:09:26,140 --> 04:09:26,560
our part.

2771
04:09:26,680 --> 04:09:27,240
They were a great job.

2772
04:09:27,340 --> 04:09:28,160
And thank you all.

2773
04:09:29,460 --> 04:09:29,480
Also, I

2774
04:09:31,760 --> 04:09:37,540
want to thank John Barrella, who is meeting with the Anderson Damon or a staff.

2775
04:09:37,840 --> 04:09:42,980
It was still sticks out with such a very excellent meeting with good questions and John's

2776
04:09:42,980 --> 04:09:44,140
on top of all those issues.

2777
04:09:44,140 --> 04:09:49,620
I'm looking forward to meeting soon addressing fire, environment, and all those other issues.

2778
04:09:50,260 --> 04:09:53,400
So, you got the mayor with them and so on and those are good things.

2779
04:09:53,800 --> 04:09:55,260
Now, I've said that it tremendous job.

2780
04:09:55,480 --> 04:09:56,980
I'm answering questions under pressure.

2781
04:09:57,880 --> 04:09:59,840
I wanted to bury us the citizen advisory last night.

2782
04:10:00,000 --> 04:10:28,260
System of the year, and we also had the Portuguese culture event, which former March Matthews, Portuguese American, Vice Mayor Spoke, and myself, mid-Presidentation, which we'll have with Rachel, we'll have here in June. We'll be our Portuguese Heritage Month, right, shallow? All right, these are with us, so also want to take the time to recognize, to recognize you, because we are committed with the JPA and San Francisco.

2783
04:10:28,260 --> 04:10:34,580
It would nice expertise, we're going to make sure it's done properly, accountability, make sure

2784
04:10:34,580 --> 04:10:39,280
the taxpayers getting what's worth, but at the same time, making it a project good to

2785
04:10:39,280 --> 04:10:39,940
save lives.

2786
04:10:40,400 --> 04:10:44,720
The night, thanks for standing up, I've joined you and our staff, I want to thank you for the

2787
04:10:44,720 --> 04:10:49,660
participation and the facts will come out in Melanie, getting the board here, just recently,

2788
04:10:50,100 --> 04:10:52,360
taking a lot of issues on and working with everybody.

2789
04:10:52,360 --> 04:10:58,800
so I'm looking forward to Max and Kenneth. Thanks. Good job today. Thank you.

2790
04:11:01,590 --> 04:11:02,170
Sorry to show.

2791
04:11:04,050 --> 04:11:09,610
Come on, sorry. Direct the valley. Are you forgot me last time too?

2792
04:11:09,770 --> 04:11:12,650
Oh, I know. That's called I'm not there. Are you all the time in a row?

2793
04:11:15,910 --> 04:11:23,090
Sorry about that. I hope we're there at the next meeting, present, so. Yeah. All right.

2794
04:11:23,650 --> 04:11:28,190
things that I've been up to since the last board meeting went to the Urban Water Institute

2795
04:11:28,190 --> 04:11:32,250
conference and that was just amazing. It was nice to network with folks who

2796
04:11:32,250 --> 04:11:38,270
and meet people that I've only seen on Zoom as an alternate to Charistromera on the DCA.

2797
04:11:38,590 --> 04:11:43,690
So that was very cool and I learned a ton. Yesterday did a site visit of a homeless

2798
04:11:43,690 --> 04:11:49,890
encampment that a lot of the folks that I represent in D2 have been interested in and wanted

2799
04:11:49,890 --> 04:11:54,850
give a shout out to our staff, they were there and have been so excellent at working with

2800
04:11:54,850 --> 04:12:01,350
the community and so responsive. And it was nice to just tag along and see how see all that

2801
04:12:01,350 --> 04:12:10,810
works. I've had more briefings as the new board member briefing on face projects in my district in

2802
04:12:10,810 --> 04:12:18,890
particular Guadalupe. Budget had a briefing on the Santa Clara Habitat Agency, which I'm a new

2803
04:12:18,890 --> 04:12:25,490
member of, met with Auditor, met with Deputy and the Housing Department, the City of San Jose,

2804
04:12:25,670 --> 04:12:31,310
again related to the homeless encampment visit yesterday, attended the Special District

2805
04:12:31,310 --> 04:12:38,810
Association meeting, and then the most exciting thing that I wanted to mention was a gathering

2806
04:12:38,810 --> 04:12:45,330
that is going to be a regular thing of the district to appointees to the various committees

2807
04:12:45,330 --> 04:12:51,610
on the water district. So we met for coffee. There were about five of us who serve on committees

2808
04:12:51,610 --> 04:12:56,990
and live in D2 and just sharing information amongst each other, balancing things around,

2809
04:12:56,990 --> 04:13:00,010
talking about upcoming agendas and that kind of stuff. It was really fun.

2810
04:13:02,240 --> 04:13:04,260
All right, sure. Thank you. That worked to show.

2811
04:13:04,860 --> 04:13:10,500
Okay. Thank you, Chair. I'll say it's my last report. I attended our last landscape summit.

2812
04:13:10,500 --> 04:13:18,380
the San Francisco Creek JPA and I want to thank all the staff for your support and just special

2813
04:13:18,380 --> 04:13:25,500
CIP coming the meeting that was CEO 101 and today's for meeting.

2814
04:13:27,240 --> 04:13:27,640
Thank you.

2815
04:13:27,840 --> 04:13:28,620
Eric, do I have a rail?

2816
04:13:30,040 --> 04:13:30,660
Thank you, Chair.

2817
04:13:31,560 --> 04:13:32,560
Thank you.

2818
04:13:33,300 --> 04:13:34,540
Vice Chair Santos, for that shot.

2819
04:13:34,760 --> 04:13:39,280
I want to talk about that meeting that we had in Morgan Hill a couple of weeks ago.

2820
04:13:39,280 --> 04:13:42,440
It was the update on the EIR on Anderson Dam.

2821
04:13:42,780 --> 04:13:44,080
It was very well intended.

2822
04:13:44,360 --> 04:13:47,560
We had 50 people in the room and 40 people online.

2823
04:13:48,140 --> 04:13:51,320
And I got to tell you, our staff, they're just amazing.

2824
04:13:52,120 --> 04:13:54,160
They capture the people in the room,

2825
04:13:54,440 --> 04:13:56,020
they're attentive, they're listening,

2826
04:13:56,280 --> 04:13:57,600
but they're also taking notes.

2827
04:13:58,100 --> 04:14:00,340
And the notes scare me because that's going to be lead to questions.

2828
04:14:01,040 --> 04:14:02,700
And so there were some questions in that

2829
04:14:02,700 --> 04:14:07,080
after the meeting and one of the many of the people had some comments,

2830
04:14:07,080 --> 04:14:12,680
one woman stood up and say, can't you put your IEIR, the thousand page document on a single page?

2831
04:14:13,500 --> 04:14:18,980
That's a great idea. How do we do that? That was an idea. That was a suggestion.

2832
04:14:19,900 --> 04:14:27,320
But the one that really, really captured my attention was this one individual who stood up and talked

2833
04:14:27,320 --> 04:14:34,900
about fire. If fire in the holiday lakes of states, those of you that are not familiar with this,

2834
04:14:34,900 --> 04:14:45,380
This is a, about six to seven thousand residents that live up in the eastern foothills of Morgan Hill, and there's one road in and one road out.

2835
04:14:45,840 --> 04:14:49,000
Think of the Oakland Hills fire 10, 15 years ago.

2836
04:14:49,760 --> 04:14:54,740
This is the exact same situation that exists in the city of Morgan Hill today.

2837
04:14:55,280 --> 04:14:59,960
So we were talking about how do 6,000, 8,000 people.

2838
04:15:00,440 --> 04:15:07,780
A potential fire coming down that one row done Avenue, while wire safety equipment is trying to get up the hill to fight that fire.

2839
04:15:08,760 --> 04:15:11,040
That's a question that we all need to talk about.

2840
04:15:12,700 --> 04:15:19,140
So, the mayor and I, by the way, was interesting as he was talking about that, the mayor was sitting behind this person.

2841
04:15:19,340 --> 04:15:22,180
I was sitting in front of the mayor, Mr. Mayor Turner.

2842
04:15:22,520 --> 04:15:25,780
Sue used to work here for Valleywater for those of you who would not aware.

2843
04:15:26,260 --> 04:15:30,100
And he was looking at me and I'm looking at him because we've been talking about this.

2844
04:15:30,640 --> 04:15:35,000
And so what we're doing is we're going to have a fireware and his fire preparedness

2845
04:15:35,960 --> 04:15:37,980
symposium coming up in the next month or so.

2846
04:15:38,140 --> 04:15:39,540
We're putting together all the pieces.

2847
04:15:39,880 --> 04:15:42,840
We're talking to all the people, you know, there's been a realignment, maybe you're not

2848
04:15:42,840 --> 04:15:43,040
aware.

2849
04:15:43,120 --> 04:15:47,380
There's been a realignment of fire fighting in Santa Clara County, in the southern part of

2850
04:15:47,380 --> 04:15:53,140
the county, which impacts Morgan Hill, Sam Martinez and Gilroy, major alignment.

2851
04:15:53,740 --> 04:15:55,480
And so we want to talk about these things.

2852
04:15:55,480 --> 04:16:00,580
we want to talk about is skate routes. Earlier we talked about one road in one road out, we need

2853
04:16:00,580 --> 04:16:04,660
the county to participate in building an exit route. Well, here's an example of why that

2854
04:16:04,660 --> 04:16:11,220
needs to happen. Because God forbid, if the next fire that happened in Oakland Hills happens in Morgan

2855
04:16:11,220 --> 04:16:18,940
Hill, we've got a real serious problem. So I'll keep you posted as to how this develops and how

2856
04:16:18,940 --> 04:16:23,540
the the committees and the people that want to be involved in this and everybody's calling

2857
04:16:23,540 --> 04:16:28,660
in John, how do I be involved in this? So we're lining them up and we'll keep you posted. So that's my report.

2858
04:16:30,320 --> 04:16:39,760
Thank you. And my report very quickly had of course a number of meetings at a number of agenda review meetings,

2859
04:16:40,040 --> 04:16:47,520
recycled committee, that would the interim CEO, the general council, the BPMC committee meeting,

2860
04:16:48,320 --> 04:16:59,660
special CIP meeting and meetings at CDC and with the board chair, the chair there, the

2861
04:16:59,660 --> 04:17:10,200
CEO there and we're here today. So I asked the clerk to read any of the much

2862
04:17:11,240 --> 04:17:16,680
observances, I don't have the sheet with me so. No problem. Thank you.

2863
04:17:22,500 --> 04:17:23,040
We are closing

2864
04:17:23,040 --> 04:17:28,380
In today's meeting by sharing in the month of March is Women's History, Irish American Heritage,

2865
04:17:28,880 --> 04:17:30,800
and Greek American Heritage Month.

2866
04:17:32,160 --> 04:17:37,300
We invite all of us to reflect on the lived experiences of different communities that make

2867
04:17:37,300 --> 04:17:43,700
up our society and help elevate their histories to raise awareness and build a more inclusive

2868
04:17:43,700 --> 04:17:45,900
and equitable future for all.

2869
04:17:46,540 --> 04:17:52,620
This month we celebrate the achievements of women, as well as Irish and Greek Americans throughout

2870
04:17:52,620 --> 04:17:59,600
history. Thank you. And lastly, the Kirk review and clarification of board requests. I have no

2871
04:17:59,600 --> 04:18:05,980
board requests for this meeting. Thank you. Okay. So we'll move then to adjourn it. So we adjourn

2872
04:18:05,980 --> 04:18:13,900
then to the 1 p.m. regular meeting on March 25th here at our headquarters. Thank you all. Good afternoon.

2873
04:18:13,900 --> 04:18:15,680
I'll close the mean.