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Good morning, everyone.

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This is the regular board meeting and we will call this meeting to order. Starways, roll call, please.

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Director Bell Absent, Director Eisenberg Absent, Director of Stamera, Absent, Director Keegan.

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Here.

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Vice Chair Santos.

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Director Verella.

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Chair Schwell.

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Here.

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Okay.

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That constitutes quorum of the board.

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Thank you.

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Item two.

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Close session.

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This.

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The board scheduled.

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A close session between.

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Ten.

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A clock.

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One will come back.

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Approximately one.

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PM.

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For.

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It's.

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procession. So at this point, we will be going into the

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co-session. Thank

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good afternoon everyone. The board just completed its

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co-session and we're coming back to the scheduled

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open session. We'll start with item 2.3 district council report closed session. So as district council to report item 2.1.

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Thank you Madam Chair, Carlos, what are you on a district council? The board meant in close session with all directors except for director Eisenberg participating with respect to item 2.2 direction to staff is given.

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Okay.

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And I would do the item 2.2.

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This is about public employee performance evaluation.

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The board members were present except director Rebecca Eisenberg.

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And then there's no reportable actions.

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What's taken?

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And now we'll move on to either 3.1, pledge of allegiance, Mr. Puffroch, you're here.

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I don't believe that's for the pledge of allegiance.

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Thank you.

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Item 3.2 orders of the day are there in the request to change the orders of the printed agenda.

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Okay, very none. Item 3.3. Time open for public comment or any item that's not on the agenda.

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Do we have the request to speak for the board?

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Thank you, Madam Chair. I have no hands raised in Zoom and I have no request to speak for members of the public.

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Is there any request to pull items from the consent calendar or there's, I can entertain a motion to approve consent calendar.

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So we have a motion.

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Two motions.

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All right, Vice Chair, along with the motion and then Director Estomeris, but the Director for Ella, second, the motion.

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This requires a roll call vote.

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Student roll call vote.

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Okay, item 5.1, board committee reports under the attachment of item 5.1.

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We have reports from the joint research, while the resource committee, the board,

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community and also the water supply and demand management committees meeting summary. Are there any questions from board members or comments on this meeting summary? Okay, very none.

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on or move on to item

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8.1, receive an update on cost associated with the Pacheco Reservoir

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Expansion Project, Project Number, 9195402, Santa Clara County, District 1, Mercedes County.

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And the recommendation is to receive an information on the cost associated with the Pacheco

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as a voice mentioned project. And I'm just a reminder to all of us that this is again receiving

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information on the most current information. This is not a decision or taking the action

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by the board and the board scheduled several main topics that are of our time and paying attention to and so that by the time the board is making decision on particular residential expansion project.

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We have these technical and then difficult issues already work through.

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So that's the purpose of today's item as one of those topics, the board compliance

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to go through on the regular basis.

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So is that Mr. Mkater?

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Yes, thank you, Chair.

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Good afternoon, directors.

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And thank you for that introduction, Chair.

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You described it well.

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This isn't an update on the cost.

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This is just a project update in the topic.

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It is the costs and financing.

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So, appreciate that.

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I've got about seven slides of content here that I can go through relatively quickly.

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We brought this presentation to the water supply and demand management committee on May 17th.

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And I had some follow-ups.

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We have a handout attached with Q&A from the Sierra Club and some responses to their

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questions they had during that committee meeting. And so those are also attached to the agenda.

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Okay, so what we wanted to do here is really differentiate the different cost figures that are

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being thrown out there for this project. And really that breaks down into the total project

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costs and the finance costs are kind of the main two figures that we deal with regularly.

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So, first we start out with a construction cost estimate. That's the purple rectangle you see there.

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There, currently we have a 30% estimate that has other contingencies applied to it, well,

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is inflation, but what you see there is about a $2 billion price tag for the construction

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phase.

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So one of the follow-up questions we had was the numbers that we provided on the added up to

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about $1.8 billion, so that other $200 million is for the soft cost or construction like

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construction management and engineering services during construction, which is one to answer

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question right out in front. So then we take that cost and then we add in our design costs which I'll

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go over on the next slide and in the planning environmental phase stuff real estate so that's

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not about another 200 million. So that gives us our our five year CIP total project cost without inflation.

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We put all these numbers into the CIP model for each year and then what we intend will spend

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throughout construction throughout the entire project and those numbers get calculated and

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formulas for inflation and get spit out basically our final.

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Total Project costs in the CIP. You see there is about 2.8 billion. And now you can start seeing a discrepancy between the FY2428 and the FY2529 numbers. And that's because there were changes to that formula that they used to calculate the inflation. So that was done with a review of market trends and using an outside consultant to look at projected inflation throughout those years. So that's why you see discrepancy between those two CIP reports.

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So the next we have the projected finance cost, so this is something we don't typically

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just talk about in great detail in our total project cost and what the finance cost will

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But because of the size of this project, there has been a lot of questions on what it will

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take to pay for this project, the full finance cost.

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So the fourth bubble you see there is a projected finance cost with 35% partnership assumption.

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And the last one you see there is the projected finance cost without the 35% partnership.

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So there's a slide later on that we've shared before that I'll go into in more detail about what all that means and what the different financing is.

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Okay, so this is a breakdown of that total project costs beyond what was shown on the previous slide in these different categories for planning, design, environmental, right away, real estate, and then also the construction.

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So you can see that it was top four rectangles.

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Those that up to about 200 million,

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then you've got your construction base at $2 billion.

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That's where we come up with the uninflated CIP value

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of $2.2 billion.

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And then as I mentioned, we put that into the CIP model

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with time considered and when all that money will be spent

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and then inflate a cost comes back to $2.75 billion.

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So let's just showing how that all goes into the model.

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So moving on to our expenditures to date.

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There's been questions about our expenditures

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and how much money we've spent and what it's being spent on, so there's a, this is a, just a little bit more of a broken down summary here.

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These different categories as I mentioned on the previous slide at what we spent so far for the planning environmental design.

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And right away, and you can see the breakdown in those columns includes both labor and services and supply.

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So labor is value water staff.

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It's been paid value water staff to develop a project over the years, and the services and supplies are consultants and other contractors that we pay.

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And there will be further breakdowns on that.

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In fact, there's another handout along with the agenda that has a much more

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broken out version that has exactly which consultant we paid and how much

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over these different years the project development.

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And then you can see that breakdown in the categories of the services

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and the files there on the right as well.

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So putting all that data out there.

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So project funding got a few different things in the air here that we're dealing with

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funding this project. So I'm just going to go over these. This is not a high chart. This is just really just showing four different kind of sources.

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And I'm going to start with the lower left with the water storage investment program grant. This is the application we submitted in 2017 and we're awarded

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conditionally $504 million in grant funding in 2018 from the California Water Commission.

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So we went through our process and remained eligible in 2021 that was part of the requirements

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for the water storage investment program. And then we also have been reimbursed $24.2 million

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in early funding. That was initially 5% of our conditional award we were able to use to develop the project.

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And the remainder of those funds will be available once we get all the approvals to begin construction and start building the project. That's when the rest of that grant money will become available.

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Next up is the WIFI alone. I'm going to go counterclockwise and you'll see why on the next slide.

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WIFI alone is federal financing. So it's essentially alone and we do have to pay that back.

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We were, I'm conditionally awarded a $1.4 billion loan from the Environmental Protection Agency.

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And we did close a loan for $92 million for planning designed to help finance the cost that we've been incurring so far developing the project.

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Next up, top right, we have the Water Utility Fund, and this is what the rate pairs are paying through the Water Utility.

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And that's from water rates, so you can see the breakdown there, 84% from zone W2, 16% from zone W5.

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That's throughout the years of the project, as well as the financing years.

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You'll see that on the next slide.

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And then lastly, on the upper left, we have the value water partners.

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So we did have a target participation of 35% to maximize the partners.

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Still make the project beneficial to value water with that maximum amount.

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And there is no, just want to know that there is no requirement of participation with the California Water Commission.

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This is a Valley Water.

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so we've shared this slide before, but this is kind of just going through the different funding sources and how the project is financed.

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So, you'll see I'll go in the same order, I went on the previous slide and how the financing gets applied to the project.

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So, column B, you can see the capital costs, that's what we're spending in these years.

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And you can see FY 19 through 23 there's the top and you see the breakdown at five years at a time to sum up with those costs would be because we're going way out in the future there at the bottom out to FY 67.

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So we can see in Column B those are the actual costs that we're going to be paying out to contractors and consultants to build the project.

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Column C that has our our prop one grant or the wiss it with funding that five hundred and four million dollars and you see how we project that will be paid back.

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the value water to compensate for those costs and column B. Next up you have the withia debt proceeds

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that are our loans will be taken out and those will be applied back to the column B to the

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capital cost of responding. And then in column E you see the revenue debt proceeds through the

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the debt financing through regular bonds we do for most of our other projects that will be

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contributing back to the project cost will be spending in column B. And then in column F this is where

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value water gets back into paying for the wifthialones as well as those bonds and calling G.

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So you can see throughout the years and out years what we will be paying to pay back those

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funds that were borrowed through Wifthia or through the bond debt service.

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And lastly, you have calling H. This is with the assumption of 35% partner payments that would

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compensate throughout those years and offset our financing costs and bring us down to basically

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cash flow to pay for the project. So we also wanted to show here what the cost would be without

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the partners. And so basically you just delete column H and you lose that incentive of paying

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back some part of that money. And so you can see the total there would go from 3.1 or about 3.2

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billion with finance costs to about 5.3 billion for our total cost with financing without partners.

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Okay, so I know that was a lot on that slide, but I'll move on and can answer questions at the end.

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This slide shows those projected rate impacts for what the water utility rate pairs will be paying.

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And this is a breakdown that shows three different terms from F by 29 to 33, FY 34 to 53.

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So that's kind of a current children's generation, then the next generation beyond that, out to FY 67.

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So, this is what we would expect the average monthly impact would be to the average household each month.

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They'd be paying.

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So, for example, let's say, without partners between FY 29 to FY33, it's about $11 per month,

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more that rate per would be paying more that the Jacob project.

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So, they can see the table below just in another way to break out the same information,

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but then also including what those dollars for acre foot impacts would be.

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Okay, this is the last slide for the

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presentation that has content and this is just a summary of the WIFI program just a lot of notes

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and really summarizing what all the terms of that program are. There's been a lot of questions about that.

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So I just want to put that out here. I will not read it to you, but it's all there in the presentation.

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There's any questions. I can take the note.

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Okay, thank you Ryan.

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questions from board member?

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Okay, so can you press the button?

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I actually have Director Keegan first.

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If you press the button, then I can press enough.

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Yeah, okay.

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Then we'll go with Director Bell.

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Is it all?

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Okay.

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What's the cost, the total cost of the imported water with the

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Pachaco project and without the Pachaco project?

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Total cost of the imported water would not change with or without the project.

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That would be a rate paid to either the Bureau of Reclamation through our central

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product or capital cost.

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As far as, do you mean what it would cost to store it in Pachaco, like the pumping cost?

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These are total costs of the imported water, operational

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capital with the Particle Project and without the Particle Project.

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I don't think I have that information in front of the readily available, but I think I know what you're asking is if we didn't have a particular project just importing the water that may be, you know, what it's projected to be now, there would be no change, but then there may be, maybe there's no other costs.

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that's right, there'd be like the system,

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there'd be like deltamin dota canal, probably just sites

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reservoir, delta, advance, project, other projects, OK?

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So I asked this before, that's why I'm raising it now.

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I haven't gotten an answer yet, though.

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I'd like to know what the cost is.

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That's all.

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I would like to have that prepared.

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I mean, it's not available.

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So it's kind of hard to judge the comparative cost when you're only looking at one aspect.

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Okay.

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So that's the kind of thing I think we need to see and it would help us in evaluating this.

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What would be the total cost of importing water, all the import water cost?

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So, the cost is to move it's operation, deliver it's capital and then compare that to, you know, like, the rest of the budget and look at the other aspects of our water supply program, figure out whether that's cost effective.

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So, I, you know, we're sort of having a study session here,

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so I asked this question before.

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I think it's important to get.

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I haven't got it yet.

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I'd like to know.

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Thank you.

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Yeah.

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Well, thank you for asking the question again.

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I think that's the purpose of this.

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All right.

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The sessions, which is new.

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We do need to figure out a way that,

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When questions are asked, doing these sessions,

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how do the response come back to,

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so make sure that everybody's on the same pace.

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I think we do need to figure that out.

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So Rick, do you have something related to this before

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call director Kiki?

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Yes, Madam Chair, we're a calendar CEO.

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I did want to respond.

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Through the chair to the right to Bell.

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I know the right to Bell has asked, actually,

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a couple times the cost of imported water.

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We are compiling that, and we will be providing, we have our water supply master plan update on the 25th, so it's your next meeting that you'll be able to look at a comparison of the cost of all the different types of water that's moving forward and immediately following that.

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You'll have a presentation on the Delta Finance project, and so we will make sure that you have that information prior to that, so then you can look at the cost of imported water versus other kinds of water supply projects recycled water,

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to take a look, etc. So there will be a lot of detail in next two weeks for now's presentation.

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Yeah, thank you. I appreciate that. I'd like to maybe get the components of what you

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consider important water. I would consider the ones I mentioned, but maybe the water bank

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programs that we have, other kinds of operational costs. So we get the total financial costs

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to the Sanctuary Valley Water District. So we understand the cumulative cost of importing water.

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And just have that information broken down so we can understand it. And it should be done

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cost over time, you know, like as you did on this particular project, you know,

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Chaco,

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I had one more question if I could. What is the current status of the sharing

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discussions regarding the Chaco project with the 35% of the class going coming from

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some other party.

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What is that?

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Status of our discussions on partnerships, is that?

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Yeah, you put it in your program, your presentation.

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You said, you kind of like said,

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OK, it's going to be $2 billion, more than $2 billion coming

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from this source.

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And since you put it in your program,

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maybe

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to be an important to understand that a little more.

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And I'd like to find out who we talking about sharing. We had a discussion before. We had a few months ago, but I want to know if there's any current information regarding that or contacts or inquiries regarding that.

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So what is the status of that? And where would be our potential sources for that?

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Sure. Yes, so we have had several conversations with different different groups.

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There's some interest, but we are working to develop more information on how the operations

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will pan out with our water rights. There's a lot of technical details and how we'll

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be using the facility and how that ties into our water rights and also with our agreements

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with both the state water project and central value projects. There's a lot of new

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water related projects, and so we're kind of work out those details so we can really

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present a package of what is possible to these interested partners.

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So it'd be government agencies?

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Correct, yeah, water agencies.

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So other government agencies have a process regarding purchasing water from a

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patriarchal project as well?

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Yeah, they've expressed interest.

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We've given them presentations and had conversations.

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we did a presentation to the Central Coast Water Authority to one of their committees,

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can't remember, it was earlier this year, representative, they represent several water agencies

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along the Central Coast, including Santa Barbara and the Pomo and other state water project agencies.

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I think it's important that since we're talking about $2 million that just become a more

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transparent process, and I have real questions about whether or not it's transparent enough

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for the public interest in light of the fact that we're asking them to pay for such

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a large project. So I don't, I don't deserve this as it stands out adequately transparent.

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And I think at some point we can address that.

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Yeah. Yeah, it was a public meeting with the Central Coast Water Authority and the materials are all out there.

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Be able to the public. We're happy to share that presentation with you.

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Okay.

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Director Kigan.

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Thank you, Director Shua.

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You preface this presentation director's show up by saying today is not the day when we're going to be making decisions on whether to support this project or not, and I think that begs the question, when will we make the decision number one and number two, how much money will we have extended by that time.

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And I just want to, and before getting an answer to that, I want to refer to a communication

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we receive from Ms. Rita Norton, who is a very well-regarded environmentalist, as well as having

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worked for another public agency. And she asked a couple of questions, and she's asking us

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directors to indicate at what point would this project no longer be feasible to us if some

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of our expectations don't hold out. So at what point if there aren't additional funding partners

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would we continue to support the project? And at what cost forecast would we no longer support

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the project. You know, the worst case exposure right now is 5.5 billion, but if we look at the

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historical increases in our project costs, it's not at all unusual for projects to double

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in cost. So getting back to my original point is when are we currently expecting that this board

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will make a formal decision as to continue to pursue the project and how much money will we have

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expended by that point.

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So I think you're asking me that question and actually I was referring

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to staff but if you want to take a stab at it. I don't want to, I'm not sure I can take a stab at it

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So one thing I do want to stress is that we've always this board, not being personally or me personally too, that as part of the board, that

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We're making these future investment decisions as part of the Water Supply Master Plan study process.

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And so we have multiple opportunities that we're all looking at.

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And right now, there's not a opportunity that we're at the point that we say that's dropped this opportunity or that's keep this opportunity.

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So, and we, we said that our staff, that that's what the supply of massive planning process is supporting the board to make investment for the future.

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Investment for future includes water conservation, purified water, and maybe storage, and stone water retention, even though there are lots of things that we're looking at.

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So, anyway, if staff have anything to add to that with the time gone, they'll be good.

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Yeah, thank you, Jared. Thanks for the question, Director Keegan.

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I think that said that WARS Prime Master Plan is really going to give us a lot more information

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on decision-making, on moving forward with the project. There's a lot of projects out there that

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you'll be hearing more about in two weeks. The CEO, Caroliner mentioned, and you know,

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weighing a which project to move forward with will be, you know, ultimately a decision that comes out

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water supply master plan process just to add the natural decision points for the board directors

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for any project are typically approving the final EIR which we anticipate in 2026 and then also

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approving the project to go to advertise for bits for construction bits which we anticipate in 2027.

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So those are the natural points at which the board would make you know final decisions whether

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before or not.

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So I don't feel like my question has been completely responded to. So what I

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just heard is what we could make a decision at the time of reviewing the water supply master plan.

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We could make a decision at the point where we finalize the EIR or we could make a decision

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when we decide to award a project and each and I agree with that. But each of those points,

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there will be a dollar figure associated with our expenditures. And I think what we're hearing

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from the public is they do have a concern about the cost and the cost is going to be ever

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increasing. Obviously, the further we go along that timeline. So I'm not sure that you

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have an answer right now as to what those costs might be, but I think it's important.

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From a sense of transparency, as my colleague, Director Bell brought up, is to provide

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that information.

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And just parenthetically, I'll say that I feel like we're taking a very sort of narrow engineering

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approach S and we want to have a definitive analysis, right? Like, how much is something actually going to cost?

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And I think what we're hearing from the Sierra Club, what we're hearing from is Norton is we don't have to take something, you know, to the, the very, the very end process at some point we could say we don't have any funding partners.

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should we continue? And that could happen before we have an approved environmental document.

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It was certainly happened before we were ready to award a project. And also, if, as frequently

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happens, as almost universally happens with our projects, that we see a big project increase.

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And, you know, I'm not, I'm not saying that it's unexpected for project budgets to go up,

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particularly the projects like this where there's many, many moving parts and things can increase,

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but historically we see cost increases, not cost reductions and not staying the same as before.

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So my perspective and this I'm saying to my colleagues here is I think that Miss Norton brings up some good points,

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which is, there may come a point where we say the project isn't feasible, or it is feasible,

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but we should have criteria that we're going to be applying.

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So that's just, you know, my input, but I would like to know, what are the expenditures

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going to be at those three inflection points or decision points that you talked about, and

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You may not have the answers right now, but I...

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I would like to see those answers.

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Surely we can get those answers.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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I do think Director Keegan raised an important point.

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I mean, we're being talking about decision making for this project.

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And one, there's likely it could be more than one decision and then the decision of the point that if we determine that 35% partnership is just not feasible then that should be continuing and that can be a point that on the board have some serious discussion.

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So, Director Eisenberg,

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thank you.

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I'm grateful to Director Keegan and Director Bell for raising some of the questions I've been raising for a year and a half.

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That still don't have answers.

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But I do want to take this opportunity to thank you to staff for doing something else I've been asking for for a long time, which is listing the parties.

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that have been receiving some of this money.

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I'm really grateful.

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I do see that you've responded to that

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and I'm very grateful for that.

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So thank you so much for spending the time.

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I'm doing that and now that you've done that,

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I want to ask you for clarification about it.

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So here when you look at the budget,

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you see that the vast largest piece of the budget

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is consulting services, almost 62 million.

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Right? And that is really, you know, for means of efficiency and transparency and accountability, that's really the piece that's also, I think is the most important to break down.

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It's also the piece that is most right for abuse as stated in the outside auditors recommendation when you have a, you know, as is known in the auditing world when you have a category like consulting.

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often you have situations with the huge money projects, not just here, and I'm not making

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any accusation as to here. But that's why you have an auditing function. You know, that's

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where you would theoretically have things like two different consultants paid for the same project,

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which is just a very kind of like common correction, you know, action for, you know, which is why there's

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auditing. Just to confirm that there was no problem like that left. So I guess I would want to say

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that that consulting line to be broken down.

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And when I look at the, in particular,

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when I look at the P.E.s that you were very,

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you know, what you visited, which again,

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for which I'm so grateful.

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When you look at the P.E.s,

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you will see, there's not really any kind of explanation.

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So, you know, I'm guessing Solurium is a law corporation

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that that's probably listed under consultants.

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But that $155,000 that we paid to them

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was actually a penalty for the varying motions that we filed that I earlier had urged that

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district council not to file for which I was actually censored for telling him not to file.

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Those were the motions. That was the penalty we paid for those motions that we lost in court

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and we lost in court and such a humiliating and large way where we did look like d-bags.

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You know like I said we probably would that we actually were required to pay the legal fees of

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the other side. So that 155,000 is how we paid for the legal fees for the party that sued us.

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So we paid the legal fees for the party that sued us, making them whole, that's how wrong we were

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according to the court. So I think that doesn't belong in consulting services. That's like a penalty

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we paid for what the court decided were extremely egregiously bad decisions made by the legal

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functions. So that needs to be separated out. Additionally, I also saw that we made a payment

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to one of the parties that actually is suing us. That's only because I'm familiar with what

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these parties are and because I was opposed to the actions that we took that, of course, I noticed

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when we were forced to pay the law fee,

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legal fees, of the other side who sued us.

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So I think it'd be helpful to have these broken down

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because I don't know what these different payments are for,

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and I think the public from a point of view of transparency

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deserves to know, like when it comes to consultants,

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what are we considering consultancies?

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Are we considering salori-misserve?

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I don't think that belongs there.

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So most of the breakdown, most of this money

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is, of course, paid to ACOM, which is helpful.

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But it might be good to know what exactly we paid them for. Same with mock McDonald's, you know, those of us who are new, we not know exactly what the difference is between McDonald and E. Cup. So it's just kind of a summary. You know, I say this, well, also getting a lot of gratitude to you for doing this, because this is so helpful.

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It's really what the public deserves and what I've been asking for. So with gratitude, I mean, no criticism, just give us a little more information also.

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And then finally, I do want to say it, it's been brought up now, okay, I was sworn in December 2022 and now it's June 20, 24, like since that day, many of us have been actually just asking for that deadline that is referred to by Director Keegan, it's really, you know, for a year and a half, we've been saying, what is your deadline when you're finally going to admit, you know, that we're not going to get, you know, people to help pay for this project.

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And there've been no zero financial commitments.

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Sure, lots of people are in favor of this project

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when they get it for free,

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who wouldn't be in favor of something

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that they get for free, but, you know,

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without agreeing committing to spending money on it,

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that's not any kind of commitment.

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It's basically like waiting in line

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at a true, like Steve Jobs House for true trading,

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where you know, you're gonna get a big bad account.

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Anybody would put their name on that list.

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So, Steve Johnson widows house.

434
00:41:29,620 --> 00:41:30,560
And his memory would be a blessing.

435
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,900
So, I think we, I don't think it's unreasonable to ask

436
00:41:34,900 --> 00:41:36,280
what that deadline is.

437
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:41,100
And, you know, I hope the chair will take leadership,

438
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,420
because I've heard the chair actually,

439
00:41:43,420 --> 00:41:45,160
you know, mentioned this also in the past.

440
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,100
Just pick a day, any day.

441
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,940
It's now been what like, how many years, seven years,

442
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:51,520
eight years, do you know, Ryan?

443
00:41:52,220 --> 00:41:55,280
How many years we've been trying to get partners for this?

444
00:41:55,280 --> 00:42:00,680
So partners weren't part of the original project concept that was that came out in 2021.

445
00:42:00,980 --> 00:42:03,660
That was one of the earlier slides. The date was on their flea beach April.

446
00:42:04,340 --> 00:42:07,240
Okay. So anyone? So we're about three years in. Yeah.

447
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,840
Okay. And since that time, the price of the project has gone up.

448
00:42:11,180 --> 00:42:15,680
The price of the project was already. That's actually what stimulated the idea to have partners

449
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:20,620
when the project cost went up. Okay. That wasn't the history I was given of it.

450
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:25,160
But okay. I'll still let you and say that's it. The price has gone up because interest rates have

451
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,480
considerably. So that means the price has gone up.

452
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,240
You can disagree, but it's just a

453
00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:36,000
fact-jack, as they say. So interest rates have gone up, which means the price of the

454
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,640
project has gone up. We all know the price of the project has gone up because everything

455
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:44,760
is more expensive now than it was three years ago. So do you think it's more or less likely to

456
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:50,180
get financial partners now to hire price than it was at a lower price, assuming that it is a

457
00:42:50,180 --> 00:42:54,860
higher price, doesn't make it easier or harder in your experience? That's hard to say. I don't

458
00:42:54,860 --> 00:42:57,740
know exactly what their needs are and what their cost thresholds are.

459
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,760
Well, universally it's much harder to get interest

460
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,000
at a higher price than it is at a lower price.

461
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,080
That's like one of the fundamental rules of economics.

462
00:43:06,820 --> 00:43:08,600
When you have a higher price, you have less demand.

463
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:10,760
We have a much higher price.

464
00:43:11,460 --> 00:43:15,760
So the likelihood of getting a partner now is lower than it was three years ago.

465
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,180
So I think it's reasonable now to have a deadline.

466
00:43:21,260 --> 00:43:34,880
And I hope the chair will pick a deadline, maybe December 31, 2024. Why not? Because as we delay with this deadline, we're spending money. That doesn't belong to us.

467
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:45,620
And we owe it to the right pairs. And just as into the taxpayers, not to spend their money, when we could stop spending their money, let's just have a deadline.

468
00:43:46,260 --> 00:43:50,480
everybody wants it. It was not some of my colleagues. It makes us

469
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,780
sweet. And so I hope if nothing else happens, the chair will decide to do that. Thank you.

470
00:43:57,290 --> 00:44:02,450
Director Estromera. Thank you, Madam Chair. We're looking at other storage

471
00:44:03,670 --> 00:44:07,150
opportunities, aren't we? That's correct. We're looking to be partners with

472
00:44:07,150 --> 00:44:13,050
other in other projects. And how long have we been doing that? How long have we been

473
00:44:13,050 --> 00:44:17,770
negotiating and looking at other projects to participate as partners?

474
00:44:18,530 --> 00:44:29,770
It's been a while. I don't know off top my head, but there's actually some upcoming presentations at the water supply demand management committee on Monday, where you'll hear a little bit more detail and maybe be able to ask those questions for

475
00:44:30,330 --> 00:44:31,590
Let's prepare us sites.

476
00:44:31,590 --> 00:44:36,590
That's what we didn't commit and signed up first week for the first year.

477
00:44:38,430 --> 00:44:40,690
Any of these projects as partners.

478
00:44:43,330 --> 00:44:45,430
I don't have an answer to why we committed.

479
00:44:45,910 --> 00:44:46,950
Why didn't we sign?

480
00:44:47,130 --> 00:44:48,030
Why didn't we?

481
00:44:48,050 --> 00:44:48,790
We come partners.

482
00:44:49,390 --> 00:44:50,190
Completely commit.

483
00:44:51,290 --> 00:44:55,350
Because we didn't know the cost because the projects weren't there yet.

484
00:44:55,510 --> 00:44:57,230
No difference in this project.

485
00:44:59,110 --> 00:44:59,970
So when we talk about it.

486
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:07,960
We've got wanting and hoping to get more partners and engage in negotiations just like we're doing with these other projects.

487
00:45:08,660 --> 00:45:17,560
It takes time because you got to get to a point where the project is designed in the chores so that people know what the project is going to be like.

488
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:23,000
What the project is going to cost. What the water is going to cost and so on.

489
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:34,900
And it's no different than what we are engaging with other prospective partners in other projects, like Sykes, all of the carols.

490
00:45:36,300 --> 00:45:37,040
It's not different.

491
00:45:38,340 --> 00:45:42,620
They did come up with a cost the first week, the first year.

492
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,560
Thank you, Director Keegan.

493
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:53,780
Thank you very much.

494
00:45:53,780 --> 00:46:06,400
You know, I just looked up the central coast water authority and looked at their overall budget, and it looks to me like their annual budget.

495
00:46:07,620 --> 00:46:21,460
They say they're total that they're recommending or were recommending for the fiscal year 23, 24 budget was about 56 and a half million dollars.

496
00:46:21,460 --> 00:46:33,600
And so I think it would be helpful as we come forward with potential partners to actually identify, you know, how much money they have available because

497
00:46:35,070 --> 00:46:39,750
56 and a half million dollars total budget

498
00:46:40,450 --> 00:46:44,930
doesn't seem to indicate that they would be able to contribute a lot

499
00:46:48,110 --> 00:47:10,160
I think just having that information available will help us put it in context because we could have a large number of people interested or agencies interested in participating but if they don't have the financial wherewithal to make up that 35% you know that's something we have to consider so it would be helpful I think if we had that information provided to us so thank you.

500
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:22,260
Yeah, through the chair, maybe unclear what they're financing terms could be with borrowing or other types of money to invest in something it's it's hard to say it's hard to speak for them. I can't really do that.

501
00:47:22,500 --> 00:47:26,320
Yeah, we can't speak for them, but we can certainly identify what they're.

502
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,300
Yeah, we can do this right now because thank you.

503
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:35,520
Okay, for the questions on board, okay,

504
00:47:38,060 --> 00:47:39,020
director of Iran.

505
00:47:40,060 --> 00:47:40,620
Thank you, Chair.

506
00:47:41,140 --> 00:47:42,080
This isn't a question.

507
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,320
It's just some observations recently.

508
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,060
Conversations that I've been engaged in.

509
00:47:49,230 --> 00:47:51,610
Many of you are aware that in addition to value water.

510
00:47:53,030 --> 00:47:55,430
I have privileged to sit on several other.

511
00:47:55,430 --> 00:48:02,110
boards and directors of other agencies, one being Aqua, which is the Association of California.

512
00:48:02,890 --> 00:48:08,650
Water agencies, there are 477 members, small meeting in large water managers and water agencies.

513
00:48:08,910 --> 00:48:10,750
It's very similar to Valley Water.

514
00:48:12,210 --> 00:48:14,590
And then the San Luis Delta Mendoza Water Authority,

515
00:48:15,750 --> 00:48:19,390
where myself, director Santos and director Val, sit on that board.

516
00:48:19,390 --> 00:48:28,670
And that's pretty much agriculture from the Bakersfield to Sacramento in that valley.

517
00:48:29,030 --> 00:48:34,190
Some of the largest water managers in the state, perhaps in the country, are in that region.

518
00:48:35,230 --> 00:48:40,990
And that's primarily sort of agriculture. And valley waters in a unique situation.

519
00:48:41,250 --> 00:48:47,470
We are one of the only water agencies in the state of California that serves both urban and agriculture.

520
00:48:48,750 --> 00:48:52,030
Agriculture still survives and thrives in Santa Clara County.

521
00:48:53,070 --> 00:48:57,710
Many of you that were here many years ago remember that this region was once called value

522
00:48:57,710 --> 00:48:58,890
of heart still light.

523
00:48:59,710 --> 00:49:05,250
Before in the mid-70s it became Silicon Valley where we went from processing apricot chips

524
00:49:05,250 --> 00:49:06,550
to Silicon chips.

525
00:49:07,410 --> 00:49:13,290
So the demand for water from the urban area is enormous and we continue to grow and develop

526
00:49:13,290 --> 00:49:16,950
in our regions in our area in Silicon Valley, Santa Clara County is no different.

527
00:49:16,950 --> 00:49:22,190
We are growing. Yes, people are leaving, but people are also coming in and the unique

528
00:49:22,190 --> 00:49:30,270
this about agriculture is the fact that that's our food source. And I attended a board meeting

529
00:49:30,270 --> 00:49:36,310
this week with the aqua board of directors and there was a presentation by agriculture.

530
00:49:37,170 --> 00:49:43,170
But one of our members would in Bardo, who sits on the advice president of Harris Wetch, and

531
00:49:43,170 --> 00:49:48,990
The purpose slash shows that they also manage cattle, and you may be familiar with who they are.

532
00:49:49,310 --> 00:49:56,930
And he's also a educator at the CS2 program in Fresno, California State University on agriculture, and food supply in water management.

533
00:49:58,130 --> 00:49:59,970
So when we look at this, and I look at this.

534
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:07,880
Those two ways that were providing water for our constituents for you and I, but we also have to provide water for our agriculture to keep it thriving.

535
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:13,380
And that's a large percentage of water that we use here in the state, and the region goes to agriculture.

536
00:50:14,460 --> 00:50:26,020
So, when we look at water storage, up and down the state, people are looking for additional partnerships where they can, and to develop and build water storage in those regions as well.

537
00:50:26,020 --> 00:50:30,300
We're no different. We're planning for our future. It's not going to happen tomorrow.

538
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:37,120
It's going to happen way beyond the fact that I'm no longer part of this board and the rest of us will be replaced.

539
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:42,940
So we're looking at the future of what our water needs are. And cutting us costs are escalating on everything.

540
00:50:43,300 --> 00:50:48,820
You know, I remember when I back in my day, I paid 12 cents a gallon for gas for fuel for my car.

541
00:50:48,820 --> 00:50:58,220
on being $5.50, $5.50 a loaf of bread with what? $39, $3.00 and $2.50 and so on and so on.

542
00:50:58,660 --> 00:51:04,020
When we look at these things, we really have to look at it with an open mind. As far as what

543
00:51:04,020 --> 00:51:09,100
we're looking at costs, the reality is we don't know what those costs are today. That's why we're

544
00:51:09,100 --> 00:51:13,780
having these discussions and looking at the future and planning them. We're not making any decisions

545
00:51:13,780 --> 00:51:19,940
today. We're getting information that you were providing to us and we are responding to that.

546
00:51:20,380 --> 00:51:23,360
And when we're ready to make that decision, believe me, you'll be engaged in that conversation.

547
00:51:24,020 --> 00:51:29,800
But remember, again, food supply is very much a important part of what we're engaged in,

548
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:34,820
and that's agriculture, and we support agriculture as well as our urban needs, which are you and I.

549
00:51:35,260 --> 00:51:40,520
Thank you. Thank you. Director Eisenberg.

550
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:45,680
Just putting out here that the agricultural community is opposed to the particular dam.

551
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,840
They do listen at the agricultural committee meetings.

552
00:51:49,180 --> 00:51:50,340
They're opposed to this.

553
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,080
So we're really going to help agriculture.

554
00:51:52,340 --> 00:51:55,000
The first thing we could do is listen to the farmers.

555
00:51:56,300 --> 00:51:58,160
And actually respond to their needs.

556
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,340
And they are opposed to this.

557
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,700
As are the water retailers are opposed to this.

558
00:52:05,580 --> 00:52:10,500
So it's just always I think it's I think it's a bit arrogance.

559
00:52:10,500 --> 00:52:15,500
to say we know better than the farmers about what's best for the farmers, and the farmers say

560
00:52:15,500 --> 00:52:24,520
this is a bad idea. So, we got to listen to them. Sorry. And not sorry. And so, you know, one

561
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:31,440
of the problem, many problems with this project is that the community is opposed to us. As a reminder

562
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:38,260
to my colleagues and to the public, we are being used with regard to this. We are being sued to

563
00:52:38,260 --> 00:52:46,900
stop this by our own constituents, and by the people we are supposed to be serving, the people

564
00:52:46,900 --> 00:52:54,900
who are suing us include the Alma-Mutsen Tribal Band. The indigenous population here is suing

565
00:52:54,900 --> 00:53:01,800
us to stop it. It's not just guessing what they feel. They are suing us to stop it. We know they

566
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:08,260
proposed to it. The Sierra Club, which represents environmental interest in our environmental

567
00:53:08,260 --> 00:53:17,960
constituency, is suing us to stop it and private land owners, including ranchers and farmers

568
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:24,780
in the private side are also suing us to stop it. So I think it's at this point, it is

569
00:53:24,780 --> 00:53:31,640
and earlier, it is simply goes against the facts and logic and reason for us to claim that this

570
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:39,620
good for farmers. When farmers have stated their opinion, have stood us and have made

571
00:53:39,620 --> 00:53:47,600
it clear, they don't want this. So I just needed to add some facts to this. Thank you.

572
00:53:55,240 --> 00:54:01,220
District Council, do you have something related to this or have another director involved?

573
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:06,180
Yes, Madam Chair, just briefly for the charity for the public. There's no currently pending lawsuit

574
00:54:06,180 --> 00:54:08,360
against Valley Water, but they had to this project.

575
00:54:08,820 --> 00:54:10,540
Okay, thank you.

576
00:54:10,940 --> 00:54:11,380
Director Bill.

577
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:12,320
I'm sorry.

578
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,520
I need to say, we lost the lawsuit.

579
00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:18,640
They sued us and they won, and we lost.

580
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:19,800
Director Bill?

581
00:54:25,670 --> 00:54:37,390
When we develop a partner, do we look at our climate change policy, and our energy use policy,

582
00:54:37,390 --> 00:54:45,040
And in terms of evaluating those kinds of projects,

583
00:54:47,860 --> 00:54:53,820
I think the obvious thing is that

584
00:54:53,820 --> 00:54:58,820
So, Coastal Range, Mount Hamilton Range, and...

585
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:16,410
We'll light the agriculture on the other side, and then there's other agricultural interest that are on the same side as the particular reservoir down to power river, for example.

586
00:55:21,030 --> 00:55:33,110
is the use of electric power or power to pump water part of the idea of having a partner,

587
00:55:33,870 --> 00:55:38,650
to pump the water somewhere where you mentioned Santa Barbara. That's quite a long way to

588
00:55:38,650 --> 00:55:46,590
That would engage significant amount of energy use.

589
00:55:46,830 --> 00:55:47,430
Is that correct?

590
00:55:49,750 --> 00:55:51,030
That would be correct.

591
00:55:51,710 --> 00:55:54,350
However, that type of partnership would have to be

592
00:55:54,350 --> 00:55:57,330
done through an exchange of water.

593
00:55:57,970 --> 00:56:00,170
That they would otherwise have delivered.

594
00:56:01,150 --> 00:56:04,150
And so, in a wet year, they would they would bank water

595
00:56:04,150 --> 00:56:05,450
in Bacheco.

596
00:56:05,870 --> 00:56:08,530
And then in a rire or time when they wanted it,

597
00:56:08,530 --> 00:56:10,130
they would basically do what we do in exchange.

598
00:56:10,210 --> 00:56:13,010
And then they have to use power to pump the water.

599
00:56:13,070 --> 00:56:15,070
We would send our water, it wouldn't come to Pachaco.

600
00:56:15,270 --> 00:56:16,870
It wouldn't physically come from Pachaco.

601
00:56:16,990 --> 00:56:17,910
It would come through the system.

602
00:56:18,050 --> 00:56:19,970
It would come through a system.

603
00:56:20,190 --> 00:56:21,670
The perid state water project system.

604
00:56:21,910 --> 00:56:21,930
Yeah.

605
00:56:21,930 --> 00:56:26,230
So we have to engage other partners to transport the water, correct?

606
00:56:26,590 --> 00:56:31,290
Yeah, there's a lot of nuances on how these things will have to work through the water projects.

607
00:56:33,020 --> 00:56:57,900
Okay, I'm one of our policies is to increase regional self-reliance through water conservation and reuse and incentivize water conservation and promote stone water capture and so forth.

608
00:56:57,900 --> 00:57:01,340
that's one of our existing, existing policies.

609
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:07,400
In terms of planning for water supply,

610
00:57:07,540 --> 00:57:12,800
one of our policies is to reduce impact on climate change

611
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,420
and a certainly energy use is an impact on climate change.

612
00:57:20,270 --> 00:57:25,270
And I believe I'm asking that in light of the letter

613
00:57:25,270 --> 00:57:28,870
from Rita Norton.

614
00:57:28,870 --> 00:57:32,330
Of course, Rita was our energy director for the City of San Jose

615
00:57:32,330 --> 00:57:34,850
when I was on the San Jose City Council.

616
00:57:35,470 --> 00:57:39,350
So she is quite experienced in that particular issue.

617
00:57:43,260 --> 00:57:46,520
If we have discussions with partners

618
00:57:47,180 --> 00:57:51,340
and their public agencies shouldn't that be a public discussion

619
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,640
and is there a process to report those discussions

620
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,920
to the board of directors and get direction?

621
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:04,420
Yeah, I think eventually we would be at a stage where those would be more or less public

622
00:58:04,420 --> 00:58:09,400
discussions through some sort of, you know, open public meeting with those water agency,

623
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:15,380
but we're right now just presenting what we're working on, what are the details are and

624
00:58:15,380 --> 00:58:17,720
just looking for perspective partners.

625
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:25,360
So you're having a list of perspectives, partners are going to other elected officials, essentially

626
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,300
and presenting this idea,

627
00:58:31,220 --> 00:58:34,500
in that case, I think it's very important that we have report

628
00:58:34,500 --> 00:58:42,200
that goes to the board directors exactly who you are presenting these discussions too,

629
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:46,060
so the board can be informed that you're talking to other elected officials.

630
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:53,220
I think that's necessary. It's a transparency issue and I think it's

631
00:58:53,220 --> 00:58:58,840
And then what is the discussion, the prim, do we have primers for those discussions?

632
00:58:59,980 --> 00:59:01,040
What are the primers?

633
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:07,040
So those kinds of issues have to be addressed still.

634
00:59:07,260 --> 00:59:09,360
I'm not, it's not in a way of criticize.

635
00:59:09,500 --> 00:59:15,000
I'm just saying we have to recognize if you're talking to other agencies, public agencies.

636
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:22,560
There are obviously getting directions from their board.

637
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:30,560
And the boarder of being informed that Valley Waters doing this project and they're,

638
00:59:31,260 --> 00:59:36,340
they would like to know whether or not we want to participate, et cetera.

639
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:43,060
The Valley Water Board would like to know who you're talking to.

640
00:59:43,660 --> 00:59:44,660
I think that's fair.

641
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:46,840
I understand.

642
00:59:47,300 --> 00:59:51,900
I think that's a public process and we should have more transparency.

643
00:59:51,900 --> 00:59:57,560
that's one of the reasons I think we should have more transparency. And we should know what the parameters are.

644
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:07,960
So those are some questions. Madam Chair, we're not really making decisions today, but I'm raising some issues. I think is important.

645
01:00:10,500 --> 01:00:27,580
There's no transparency. It presents a problematic situation to me as an elected official that direction is not being given by the board about the parameters and who we talk to, what kind of impacts they have.

646
01:00:28,460 --> 01:00:35,680
So, I would like to see answers to these questions in the future.

647
01:00:36,060 --> 01:00:36,580
Thank you.

648
01:00:37,860 --> 01:00:38,340
Thank you.

649
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,420
And you all right, there are two about that.

650
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:55,500
And as I said earlier that we do need to figure out from the process point of view that how the questions that's raised by the board and then need to answer on certain specific thing that will come back to the board.

651
01:00:55,500 --> 01:01:05,760
And then those response may generate that additional discussion, and that's what the whole purpose of this process that we're putting place on to start from.

652
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:12,880
And I will take the responsibility to work with staff on those things.

653
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,980
Any other thing from board member?

654
01:01:18,700 --> 01:01:19,240
Okay.

655
01:01:19,660 --> 01:01:20,360
Go ahead.

656
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:26,820
Yeah, thank you, men, I'm sharing, everybody's got an opinion and you will hear people say,

657
01:01:26,940 --> 01:01:30,640
well, the public saying this and that they don't really know, they're just saying what

658
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:36,140
they feel is right, just like they're able to joe out through the common person, South

659
01:01:36,140 --> 01:01:44,380
Labor represents them. That's the working class and they're all for it. Well, here we go.

660
01:01:44,500 --> 01:01:48,240
We have someone who always wants to be rude and erupt, but of course I didn't say a thing

661
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,500
when you talked, did I with respect?

662
01:01:51,660 --> 01:01:52,840
Something you should learn.

663
01:01:53,420 --> 01:01:56,820
So anyway, as I represent the regular labor person,

664
01:01:57,780 --> 01:02:01,680
you know, the same public invests in football stadiums

665
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,460
and $45 billion, nobody says a word.

666
01:02:04,780 --> 01:02:08,600
They're not around today, but water will always have to be here.

667
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:10,020
That's my obligation.

668
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,900
We're spending a couple million dollars or $5 billion,

669
01:02:13,900 --> 01:02:15,200
whatever it may be.

670
01:02:15,540 --> 01:02:17,140
It'll be here. We hope forever.

671
01:02:17,140 --> 01:02:22,840
we're working for the next generation. All these decisions were passed to us when

672
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:26,800
other boards before us should have took action they didn't. So we are today we're

673
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:32,040
doing it. So when you have an issue 10 or 15 years so they have me not be here.

674
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:36,180
You can call the people who are debating against it because you don't have any water.

675
01:02:37,340 --> 01:02:40,920
So we want to make sure we have water and that's what our obligation is. I hope the

676
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:44,860
majority of this board continues what we're doing. I don't know if we want to reveal all

677
01:02:44,860 --> 01:02:50,300
different potential partnerships until we get that. Because that's negotiations. We shouldn't put our

678
01:02:51,340 --> 01:02:56,360
staff in a bad situation. We should be here opening and this is actually the question best

679
01:02:56,360 --> 01:03:00,860
we can't for a cause. But you know, you'll pay more damage to control if you listen to the wrong

680
01:03:00,860 --> 01:03:06,940
people. I like to say this. My obligation is to make sure that I sit at many times to the next generation.

681
01:03:07,420 --> 01:03:13,080
We owe it to them. And it'll be less cost 20 years from today. And if you take care of it now,

682
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:18,690
We had the same issues when that was a young person with the in-house, which we call on us.

683
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:27,900
That was all debated back in 1976 and 77 and everybody just sat under butts and didn't do a damn thing and the governor closed the hospitals down

684
01:03:27,900 --> 01:03:30,120
So here we are today panzyliens

685
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:37,890
So I'm saying it's the same such a ratio for water. Think about the next generation. It'll be less cost

686
01:03:37,890 --> 01:03:41,450
let's proceed solely with the majority of us are doing.

687
01:03:42,210 --> 01:03:45,890
And when you make those phone calls, remember who we call. Thank you.

688
01:03:47,250 --> 01:03:47,610
Okay.

689
01:03:48,430 --> 01:03:52,530
I don't have for the questions or comments from Paul Members.

690
01:03:52,970 --> 01:03:54,950
We'll go to public comment.

691
01:03:55,450 --> 01:04:01,410
Before I call on individuals, I want to recognize that

692
01:04:01,410 --> 01:04:07,630
we did receive a written comment before this board meeting.

693
01:04:08,410 --> 01:04:22,990
that's posted as handout, A, all the way through I, so thank you for your time to submit written comments on this item.

694
01:04:24,090 --> 01:04:33,690
And for we have, we don't have anyone in Borgung who wants to speak to us, do we?

695
01:04:33,910 --> 01:04:36,230
Thank you Madam Chair, no we do not have anyone in the book.

696
01:04:36,230 --> 01:04:45,110
we have people on the zoom race their hands. Okay, so I will start with you call the game.

697
01:04:45,310 --> 01:04:48,950
The first person we have is Osham Azirov.

698
01:04:49,750 --> 01:04:53,430
Okay, Osham, please go ahead.

699
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:14,600
Okay,

700
01:05:20,750 --> 01:05:23,170
a mutual self, and is start?

701
01:05:27,370 --> 01:05:30,310
Hi, can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you now.

702
01:05:30,710 --> 01:05:33,470
Sorry, I was, yeah, no problem.

703
01:05:33,670 --> 01:05:35,990
No problem, yeah, yeah, please go ahead.

704
01:05:36,870 --> 01:05:36,870
Anyway,

705
01:05:38,910 --> 01:05:41,010
thanks for taking public comment.

706
01:05:42,470 --> 01:05:46,370
My name is Ocean Reserve. I represent the stops of the particular dam,

707
01:05:48,510 --> 01:05:52,030
I'm glad the board is getting these updates,

708
01:05:54,070 --> 01:05:56,930
perhaps it will be in another update, but

709
01:05:56,930 --> 01:06:02,210
as was mentioned earlier, the ability to care about other water supply options and the relative

710
01:06:02,210 --> 01:06:10,190
cost of those options and the risks of those options is really important.

711
01:06:10,190 --> 01:06:17,870
in particular storage in San Luis and the caros, which are two expansion projects that

712
01:06:18,670 --> 01:06:24,230
true expansion projects, not new dams, basically, as this one is, that would end up in

713
01:06:24,230 --> 01:06:26,910
a day, 1500 new acres.

714
01:06:28,610 --> 01:06:34,610
I want to point out in case folks just to remind that Chaco Creek is a pretty small

715
01:06:34,610 --> 01:06:41,810
crakes in North fork of the Chico Creek, it's ranch land, it's wild land, it's habitat,

716
01:06:42,390 --> 01:06:49,130
it's in private ownership, and it's not really expected to be much of a new source of water.

717
01:06:49,410 --> 01:06:54,630
The report that you'll submit it to the water commission says that in dry years it might be as

718
01:06:54,630 --> 01:07:01,970
little as 50 acre feet. In addition, valley water doesn't currently hold water rights to

719
01:07:01,970 --> 01:07:08,530
Kuchiko Creek, the main source of info would be the rights you already have or the contracts

720
01:07:08,530 --> 01:07:18,170
you have with the CBPN, SWP, so it's not like it's not on stream storage and it would

721
01:07:18,170 --> 01:07:23,990
be a huge water rights process and basically end up attempting to take the water and land

722
01:07:23,990 --> 01:07:29,350
away from somebody else in order to build this project and it really might not be much water

723
01:07:29,350 --> 01:07:31,630
all in a lot of years.

724
01:07:33,670 --> 01:07:40,710
Also, I think that there's going to be a lot more resources available

725
01:07:40,710 --> 01:07:50,070
for better water supply projects that are doing recycling, reuse, conservation, ground water

726
01:07:50,070 --> 01:07:55,850
storage. There's going to be a lot more public funds and interest for those types of projects.

727
01:07:55,850 --> 01:08:01,170
I think, you know, you kind of people have voted with their feet in terms of not signing

728
01:08:01,170 --> 01:08:06,770
that for this project because it's such high cost and high risk and it's, you know,

729
01:08:06,990 --> 01:08:11,510
that was, you know, some three years ago since your staff started looking.

730
01:08:12,170 --> 01:08:17,030
I totally agree with the comments from the board about they need to be a prize of what's

731
01:08:17,030 --> 01:08:22,390
being told to these other districts in terms of what, you know, they could buy into and it's

732
01:08:22,390 --> 01:08:26,970
that they understand the high risks from from this project and the unlikely good that it

733
01:08:26,970 --> 01:08:34,990
would ever yield very much water. So yeah, those are my comments for now before I really think

734
01:08:34,990 --> 01:08:40,050
the board should make a decision about you should have a timeline and so that you can start spending

735
01:08:40,050 --> 01:08:47,090
your time and your rate hares money on better projects. Okay, thank you, Miss.

736
01:08:48,850 --> 01:08:53,670
And we now have the Coach, this Coach Irvin.

737
01:08:54,870 --> 01:08:55,050
Okay.

738
01:08:55,450 --> 01:08:56,090
Yes, Madam Drurkin.

739
01:08:57,110 --> 01:08:58,090
Go ahead.

740
01:09:00,480 --> 01:09:00,700
Good afternoon.

741
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:02,740
Good afternoon, Chair Shua.

742
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:04,960
And Valley Water Directors.

743
01:09:05,020 --> 01:09:06,660
This is Coach Irvin with the C.R.

744
01:09:06,660 --> 01:09:10,320
C.R.C.R.C.R.C.R.C.R.C.R.C.R.C.R.C.R.C.R.

745
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:12,920
I want to start by saying thank you to Chair Shua.

746
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:17,320
and for asking staff to respond to our comments

747
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:19,920
from the water supply and demand management committee

748
01:09:20,440 --> 01:09:24,380
and to Ryan McCartor's team for putting the response together.

749
01:09:25,460 --> 01:09:29,100
I'm hoping we can also get answers to our follow-up questions

750
01:09:29,100 --> 01:09:33,200
attached to this item as handout 8.1A.

751
01:09:34,540 --> 01:09:37,400
In addition, I want to thank the chair for putting out a notice

752
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:41,240
about the meeting to your list of Pateco interested parties.

753
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:50,520
And it would be helpful to send out a notification that list when Pacheco items come up to the committee as well as to the board.

754
01:09:51,780 --> 01:09:56,800
Otherwise, I want to emphasize some of the issues related to the cost for the Pacheco Dam project.

755
01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:59,960
First, the 2.2 billion.

756
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:09,620
And cost estimate is clearly low. That is about the same as Anderson Dam Retrofit project. If you've been out to

757
01:10:09,620 --> 01:10:15,520
Doudie Ranch at Henry Coe, you get an idea of the distance and the type of roads and the additional

758
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:22,400
costs to work in such a remote location. Second, the water supply benefits that would result from this

759
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:29,020
project are not worth the cost. A small amount of emergency supply and some supposed water quality

760
01:10:29,020 --> 01:10:36,820
benefits are not worth 2.5 billion. Third, the impact of this project on rate payers will

761
01:10:36,820 --> 01:10:41,760
be significant. We should not be burdened to that extent for so little benefit.

762
01:10:43,420 --> 01:10:48,860
Lastly, I want to emphasize the extreme environmental impact this project would cause

763
01:10:48,860 --> 01:10:54,600
the environmental cost is immense and should be reason enough to cancel this project.

764
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:56,760
Thank you for your consideration.

765
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:01,800
Thank you.

766
01:11:03,140 --> 01:11:07,040
And I'll always have

767
01:11:09,090 --> 01:11:12,210
this, Mr. Forest, Peterson.

768
01:11:15,580 --> 01:11:16,320
Thank you, Chair.

769
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:20,740
Lord, the name is Dr. Peterson.

770
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:23,020
I'm an engineer here at Stanford University.

771
01:11:24,060 --> 01:11:27,280
I specialize in workforce technology.

772
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,660
And the reason why I'm speaking is

773
01:11:30,660 --> 01:11:41,820
I saw on your expenditures that there's tribal consultation of $50,000 and engineering of $50 million.

774
01:11:42,740 --> 01:11:58,560
Now I understand people want to be efficient and but I want to be the voice that says, I think we should probably share in the community benefits in the discussion of the project a little bit more with the tribal.

775
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:05,920
the impact of tribes, and I know they be, you know, even finding those tribes because it hits your California could be a challenge.

776
01:12:07,900 --> 01:12:26,560
But, and to put this within the research that I do at Stanford and workforce technology and education, as a suggestion of Palo to try to make sure that before we get into the environmental impacts that, you know, and mitigations were probably, you know, some tribal benefits might be part of that.

777
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:30,560
during the project, but in the discussion for the project is maybe

778
01:12:31,180 --> 01:12:40,660
filled in internships or even some kind of funding for tribal members in the Santa Clara County region

779
01:12:40,660 --> 01:12:50,340
as part of the engineering team as part of the water district or give scholarships to students in the workforce

780
01:12:51,160 --> 01:13:19,740
building trays and things like that. So that is not such disparity. I'm actually here at Stanford and my colleagues are standing here watching this with me and to a global audience of engineers who who see this that number was a little bit shocking when it stood out. So I'll stop there. And I thank you for all the discussion. And then just to mention, I am essentially a lifetime concrete labor myself. So I'm actually pretty much on the fence on this project. But all that aside, seeing that number, please.

781
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:27,000
I'll try and put a little bit more in the tribal, the tribal wine that you are self-preciate. Thank you.

782
01:13:28,020 --> 01:13:31,320
Thank you for that comment. Miss Molly Koten?

783
01:13:36,740 --> 01:13:41,840
Good afternoon, board members. This is Molly Koten, and I'm commenting on behalf of Sierra Club California.

784
01:13:42,660 --> 01:13:49,540
I want to thank the board members for this great discussion on this item today, and for the excellent questions raised by board directors,

785
01:13:49,540 --> 01:13:55,000
Bell, Keegan, and Eisenberg, especially relating to cost and transparency of the Pachico project.

786
01:13:55,640 --> 01:14:00,020
We also thank staff for taking time to answer our questions about the information given in the

787
01:14:00,020 --> 01:14:05,820
staff presentation that we've outlined in our comment letter. This is an expensive project, especially

788
01:14:05,820 --> 01:14:11,180
when the lack of project partners is taken into account. We look forward to continuing to engage in this

789
01:14:11,180 --> 01:14:16,240
process and look forward to the water supply master plan update at the June 25th meeting. Thank you.

790
01:14:17,700 --> 01:14:19,060
Okay, thank you.

791
01:14:20,180 --> 01:14:24,440
Do we have any other requests to speak to this one?

792
01:14:25,020 --> 01:14:25,900
Thank you, Madam Chair.

793
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,160
We have no more requests to speak at this time.

794
01:14:28,460 --> 01:14:28,700
Okay.

795
01:14:30,140 --> 01:14:31,000
Thank you, everybody.

796
01:14:31,660 --> 01:14:39,920
And as I said, twice already that I will take that responsibility and work with staff.

797
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:50,140
and then the purpose of these sessions is to answer a bold question, so we will figure out a way to do that.

798
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:58,480
Okay, how moving on to Tim, I think it's 10.01, CEO and Chief's report, I'll turn the meeting to CEO.

799
01:14:59,020 --> 01:14:59,780
Yes, Madam Chair.

800
01:15:01,220 --> 01:15:06,800
We'll have a short report. We'll start with Acting Chief of Installal Affairs Lugo.

801
01:15:11,260 --> 01:15:18,020
Good afternoon, chair and board members. I'll start with our highlights for the Office of Government Relations.

802
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:27,700
In terms of the state budget process, it continues on May 10, the governor presented his May revise budget to address a 27.6 billion shortfall,

803
01:15:27,700 --> 01:15:32,560
retaining cuts to dam safety, sea level rise, and recycle water and proposing to shift

804
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:37,200
excess e-wrap funding from counties and special districts to charter schools. However,

805
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:43,400
on May 29, the Senate and Assembly released their mutual budget proposal rejecting the e-wrap

806
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:49,060
funding ship and the cut to dam safety while partially restoring modest funding for recycled water

807
01:15:49,060 --> 01:15:57,020
and sea level rise. The legislator has until June 15 to pass the fiscal year 2024 25 state budget

808
01:15:57,020 --> 01:16:00,620
stop continues to advocate for protecting existing

809
01:16:00,620 --> 01:16:04,860
value water project funding and is now focusing on increasing

810
01:16:04,860 --> 01:16:08,760
funding through a proposed climate resiliency bond for the November

811
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:10,640
2024 election.

812
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,420
And then in terms of our highlights for the office of civic

813
01:16:14,420 --> 01:16:17,720
engagement, we did have our National River Cleanup Day,

814
01:16:18,300 --> 01:16:20,280
Valley Water and Purnership with the Creek Connections

815
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:22,780
Action Group coordinated another successful cleanup event

816
01:16:22,780 --> 01:16:26,180
instead of our county on Saturday, May 18th.

817
01:16:26,180 --> 01:16:32,100
There were 42 clean-up sites all together throughout all seven valley water districts and around

818
01:16:32,100 --> 01:16:37,640
700 volunteers cleaned 66 miles of creeks, shorelines, and natural areas were moving up

819
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:41,760
approximately 17,255 pounds of litter.

820
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:47,000
The Q-commission also hosted a site at Valley Water Headquarters where director Bell tended

821
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:48,860
and provided opening remarks.

822
01:16:49,700 --> 01:16:55,280
Stop also participated in the DPR workshop, which is a direct political reuse workshop here

823
01:16:55,280 --> 01:17:00,640
our headquarters last month, a staff coordinated a presentation with Dr. Stephen Jackson, who's the chair

824
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:05,740
of the Environmental Health Committee with the Center for Accounting Medical Association. Dr.

825
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:10,420
Jackson shared with the committee, his support for adding purified water to Center for Accounting

826
01:17:10,420 --> 01:17:15,800
is drinking water supply, and the importance of medical professionals supporting portable reuse.

827
01:17:16,220 --> 01:17:21,740
A staff also presented an overview of value waters public outreach efforts. And then to wrap up

828
01:17:21,740 --> 01:17:28,480
But under our grants program, we had a save by nature's grant funded event on May 11.

829
01:17:28,660 --> 01:17:35,920
Stop attended, save by nature's headwaters to the Bay event, which was at Lake Almedin

830
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:37,240
in Valley Water Headquarters.

831
01:17:37,620 --> 01:17:47,240
It included in a hike and a partition, partitionally funded up to $84,000 from the

832
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,360
clean water, F-9 standard grant.

833
01:17:49,700 --> 01:17:54,120
There were 13 participants that began the day at Valley Water Headquarters and

834
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:57,700
hiked around our Las Alameda's Proculation Pond and

835
01:17:57,700 --> 01:17:58,880
Alameda Lake Park.

836
01:17:59,980 --> 01:18:03,980
They've included open-air remarks from Director Bell and

837
01:18:03,980 --> 01:18:07,720
an educational environment that involves escape demonstration hosted by

838
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:09,780
Valley Water's Education Outreach Team.

839
01:18:10,220 --> 01:18:11,600
And that concludes my report.

840
01:18:12,020 --> 01:18:12,720
Thank you.

841
01:18:13,480 --> 01:18:14,180
And let me share that.

842
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:16,020
We'll conclude the CEO and cheese reports.

843
01:18:16,020 --> 01:18:27,780
Okay. Thank you. Okay. I will move on to the item 13.1 review the fiscal year 2023-24

844
01:18:27,780 --> 01:18:36,420
board policy planning calendar. And the planning calendar is listed as the attachment of this

845
01:18:36,420 --> 01:18:45,520
item for this specific board meeting. There was no proposed modifications to the plan schedule.

846
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:57,660
It's everything that's listed there right now is as planned to end then to happen in those months.

847
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:04,740
Okay, now item 14 board member reports and announcements.

848
01:19:05,620 --> 01:19:08,080
Well, start with Director Keegan.

849
01:19:12,910 --> 01:19:17,590
Okay. Whoops. Madam chair.

850
01:19:19,750 --> 01:19:23,030
In terms of, sorry,

851
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:27,980
I've multiple calendars up at the same time.

852
01:19:29,480 --> 01:19:43,460
So I was present at the Sanitla Ra County Special District Association. I sat in on the, or actually

853
01:19:43,460 --> 01:19:51,340
attended the water 101 graduation and it was wonderful to talk to you all those folks who had

854
01:19:53,220 --> 01:19:59,940
gone through our program and they were all very complimentary of the program. I think they just felt like they're

855
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:11,880
It would be even more information, but they really enjoyed that. I met with the CEO and that's it.

856
01:20:22,170 --> 01:20:28,790
Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Chair. So, 40th anniversary of the Mushroom Festival in Morgan

857
01:20:28,790 --> 01:20:34,810
Hill, for I'm going to call the Mushroom Artigrant, attended two weeks, two days, over the last

858
01:20:34,810 --> 01:20:43,550
weekend of May and Valley Waters' sponsor of that event. Board meetings here, also another

859
01:20:43,550 --> 01:20:50,590
Morgan Hill, elevate the economic mobility symposium and Morgan Hill, which all the major

860
01:20:50,590 --> 01:20:55,650
movers and checkers of the region were in attendance about 200 people participated in

861
01:20:55,650 --> 01:20:56,550
that event.

862
01:20:57,890 --> 01:21:03,930
Let's see, we have the South County wastewater facility meeting.

863
01:21:04,310 --> 01:21:06,270
Sound of the East Delta Mendoza meeting.

864
01:21:06,810 --> 01:21:17,670
Santa Clara, can't be far and be all meeting, it's just close on it. Okay, let's see, and I think that's about it for now.

865
01:21:18,030 --> 01:21:20,130
Okay, do I have to, uh, Hester Marra?

866
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:23,420
Thank you, Madam Chair.

867
01:21:24,220 --> 01:21:29,660
We had a joint, recycled, uh, committee meeting with the City of San Jose.

868
01:21:29,660 --> 01:21:38,380
So, very good meeting, we had some great discussion and we all agreed to meet more often

869
01:21:38,380 --> 01:21:47,580
and to try our best to assimilate the project as fast as we can.

870
01:21:47,580 --> 01:22:17,560
Also had oversight, redevelopment oversight, board meeting where we approved the sale of last project in Santa Clara large office building for $25 million, so we expect as an independent district to receive some of that.

871
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:27,060
some of that income. Also, rather around table, meeting I attended and at the special districts,

872
01:22:28,220 --> 01:22:39,460
meeting was also during the week. And also, I have a meeting with the CEO from the Delta

873
01:22:39,460 --> 01:22:46,500
of Spain's disparity. And lastly, I just wanted to mention shout out to Mexico for electing

874
01:22:47,440 --> 01:22:54,400
their first woman president and also for electing their first Jewish president. I thought it

875
01:22:54,400 --> 01:23:01,740
was very significant and I know many people both in this country and around the world feel very

876
01:23:01,740 --> 01:23:06,460
positive about that. I think that there are going to be some really great changes. Both from Mexico

877
01:23:06,460 --> 01:23:10,060
but also for the United States, because of that in the next.

878
01:23:11,140 --> 01:23:13,380
Thank you. Thank you.

879
01:23:13,380 --> 01:23:13,880
Thank you.

880
01:23:14,620 --> 01:23:17,660
My report, I was on vacation for two weeks,

881
01:23:18,740 --> 01:23:20,500
so no report on meetings,

882
01:23:21,100 --> 01:23:23,600
but I do want to take this opportunity to share

883
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:26,140
a thought on how I was my colleague that.

884
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:27,900
So right before I went on vacation,

885
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,400
I did participate on the National River

886
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:34,380
calling up day and at the Colabassist Creek.

887
01:23:35,700 --> 01:23:38,780
And I've been doing this for many years.

888
01:23:39,660 --> 01:23:43,390
And when I first started, the most garbage I picked up

889
01:23:45,140 --> 01:23:47,260
was cigarette butts.

890
01:23:47,700 --> 01:23:50,920
So it's a lot of cigarette butts.

891
01:23:51,060 --> 01:23:54,340
And it's gradually decreasing in this time.

892
01:23:54,500 --> 01:23:56,740
I was there for almost three hours.

893
01:23:56,740 --> 01:24:07,680
I did not find a single single above us, so I just feel like many things that education and

894
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:16,520
communication is hard. It takes time. It takes decades, but we should not give up on anything that

895
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:25,020
we're trying to communicate and educate our constituents and just keep working at the results.

896
01:24:25,020 --> 01:24:31,380
We will see even though it's going to be next week. So just like this year that was there everybody

897
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:37,700
Director Santos. Yes, thank you. I want to all those meetings plus more when you're in the case

898
01:24:39,340 --> 01:24:42,140
Thank you. I forgot the thank you

899
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:48,900
No problem a lot of trepid what a bit. But I will mention all of them

900
01:24:48,900 --> 01:24:54,100
But I was a very impressed with our procurement meeting with the small Lord's business here

901
01:24:54,100 --> 01:24:59,980
It was a packed house, Tina, you're staffed by you guys, it was a great job, really nice and...

902
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:15,180
A chance to engage with some of the owners and small business people and they were all very happy and got the direction they needed and so on. And then, of course, the ambassador, one in one, the graduation was top of the mark. Thank you.

903
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:16,340
Director Eisenberg.

904
01:25:18,180 --> 01:25:18,440
Thank you.

905
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:24,060
Thank you so much. First, thanks to the chair for mentioning that about the cigarette, but that was a really important comment.

906
01:25:24,060 --> 01:25:31,680
And also thank you to Director Estimera for mentioning that news, Jewish, female elected

907
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:38,980
president of our sister country and neighbor, Mexico, a democracy, you know, which, and

908
01:25:38,980 --> 01:25:42,880
Mexico, actually, as I'm sure you're aware, has done really amazing things.

909
01:25:43,700 --> 01:25:48,340
It's a pretty progressive and enlightened country, every country has issues and problems,

910
01:25:48,980 --> 01:25:53,740
but Mexico has really done a great job, my sister lived in Mexico for a long time, so,

911
01:25:53,740 --> 01:25:54,800
And it's great.

912
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:58,260
In fact, I do want to say real quickly before I say what I'm talking about, that there

913
01:25:58,260 --> 01:26:06,140
is actually a very, very active and exciting, flourishing Jewish population throughout the

914
01:26:06,140 --> 01:26:06,940
Latin American world.

915
01:26:07,260 --> 01:26:13,980
As most Latinos know, I've read this in Chile, and there's a big Jewish population in Argentina.

916
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:20,800
Argentina was one of the countries that did best at taking in survivors from the Holocaust.

917
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:24,680
So cheers to Latin America, always a friend of the Jews.

918
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:29,460
So speaking of Jews, and I want to talk about tonight's holiday,

919
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:30,860
which is Shabuot.

920
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:34,260
Shabuot is a holiday, like many years' holidays,

921
01:26:34,420 --> 01:26:36,720
because Judaism is one of our oldest world religions,

922
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:40,500
and it's very, very integrated with nature.

923
01:26:40,540 --> 01:26:44,360
Of course, Christianity has a lot of the Jewish stuff too,

924
01:26:44,460 --> 01:26:45,240
as this is lived.

925
01:26:47,100 --> 01:26:50,400
So Judaism is a lot of the natural holidays work

926
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:55,660
and tonight's holiday is particularly special for those of us who are friends of the trees, all of us,

927
01:26:55,700 --> 01:27:03,380
and the environment. Chavuot means weeks, but it's Chavuot is a week. But it's really about,

928
01:27:04,020 --> 01:27:08,740
it's a night where we stay up all night and study. It is real that they didn't have much

929
01:27:08,740 --> 01:27:13,220
luck in the last step on night holiday, but that's not going to happen this time. The commandment is

930
01:27:13,220 --> 01:27:19,740
to stay up all night and study together with Jews and with the larger community and study ways

931
01:27:19,740 --> 01:27:21,660
of how to make the world a better place.

932
01:27:23,140 --> 01:27:26,080
And one thing, and specifically, it commemorates the day

933
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:33,800
that supposedly Hashem, God gave the commandments to Moses

934
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:36,040
or the leader at that time.

935
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:38,220
And the commandments, many people don't know

936
01:27:38,220 --> 01:27:40,400
that there's actually 613 commandments,

937
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:43,260
and not just that 10, which is one reason why so many

938
01:27:43,260 --> 01:27:46,680
Jews are lawyers and so rural or into 613 commandments.

939
01:27:46,860 --> 01:27:49,160
And a really big number of them are devoted

940
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:56,140
to how we take care of agriculture, how we take care of agriculture, and 49 and 7 are both

941
01:27:56,140 --> 01:28:01,000
very important numbers in Jewish commandments, because just like human beings are commanded

942
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:07,720
to rest every seven days, Jews are commanded to give the land a rest every seven years.

943
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:14,780
And after 49 years, there's this thing called the Jubilee, where all the lands, so every seven

944
01:28:14,780 --> 01:28:17,300
years of plot of land, wrote on a rotating basis,

945
01:28:17,540 --> 01:28:21,500
rest, and then in year 50, all the land at the same time

946
01:28:21,500 --> 01:28:21,820
rest.

947
01:28:21,940 --> 01:28:23,640
And that's a celebration called the Jubilee,

948
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:27,020
and how do we feed people with the food we've

949
01:28:27,020 --> 01:28:29,420
stored up responsibly over those 49 years?

950
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:33,020
And what's so cool about how it is based on the number 7?

951
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:37,180
Is that it really teaches us that it's so important

952
01:28:37,180 --> 01:28:38,420
to take time and reflect?

953
01:28:38,940 --> 01:28:42,660
I know we're all so busy, but taking that break once every seven

954
01:28:42,660 --> 01:28:47,920
years and once every seven days to join together and study and work out ideas and

955
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:52,940
disagreement is something that's really actively valued and treasured in my

956
01:28:52,940 --> 01:28:53,260
religion.

957
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:56,760
So, when you talk about people who have different points of view and different

958
01:28:56,760 --> 01:29:00,200
perspectives, if you talk with them directly, that's how you come to the truth.

959
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:04,220
Which is why I really welcome and I cherish and I'm grateful times that we as a

960
01:29:04,220 --> 01:29:06,080
board disagree about things.

961
01:29:06,540 --> 01:29:10,820
In my culture and ethnicity and religion, we're commanded to disagree with each other.

962
01:29:11,300 --> 01:29:18,500
Only by disagreeing with each other, listening to each other, you know, and really in compromising and exploring things deeply.

963
01:29:19,440 --> 01:29:27,240
Well, we get to the right answer, and the right answer is the most righteous thing, and the most righteous thing is the thing that serves others the most.

964
01:29:27,980 --> 01:29:33,940
So tonight, whether you're Jewish or not, I hope you all will join me in just taking some time to talk to someone with whom you disagree.

965
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:37,980
And to talk about it, it's a topic that's difficult.

966
01:29:38,980 --> 01:29:43,320
And with that person with whom you disagree, share your ideas and listen to theirs

967
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:51,820
and try to find a common ground and try to get to the truth because only by talking with those with whom we disagree will we get to the best answer.

968
01:29:52,060 --> 01:29:56,560
So thank you for listening to this long talk and I wish you all a happy show about it.

969
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:58,140
Thank you, Director Bell.

970
01:29:59,480 --> 01:29:59,980
Yeah, thank you.

971
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:13,540
Thank you. This isn't directly related to Valley Water in a sense, but this last couple weeks,

972
01:30:15,660 --> 01:30:27,860
we

973
01:30:27,860 --> 01:30:35,340
as my father's situation, his history,

974
01:30:38,220 --> 01:30:42,820
I also attended the Ericsson Homeowner Association meeting,

975
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:49,860
concerning mainly concerning homeless, but also maintenance on the creek, staff with

976
01:30:49,860 --> 01:30:54,040
there did a good job presenting some of the issues.

977
01:30:54,040 --> 01:31:02,160
water 101 graduation was very interesting. I attended that with my colleagues and I attended

978
01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:16,060
Lafco, the Lafco meeting. I was excited to attend East Ridge, light rail Saturday, the groundbreaking

979
01:31:16,060 --> 01:31:25,340
for the light rail project, especially since seeing some of my legislation come to fruition

980
01:31:25,340 --> 01:31:29,740
in terms of getting the funding for that project. It was very exciting.

981
01:31:32,180 --> 01:31:36,640
I met with some veterans

982
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:50,000
It's kind of informally, and we were talking about the VA Center and having the idea of having

983
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:56,760
some kind of like area along Coyote Creek, which is right next to the VA Center, where

984
01:31:56,760 --> 01:32:03,210
we can put some benches or some outdoor kind of contemplative ideas.

985
01:32:03,210 --> 01:32:08,950
probably maybe do a referral when I have that firm duck. I want the board to know I'm working

986
01:32:08,950 --> 01:32:17,190
on that with the staff. I talked to Mr. calendar about it and others, but there's some interest

987
01:32:17,810 --> 01:32:21,830
in that as part of the veterans organizations.

988
01:32:25,370 --> 01:32:28,210
We have a group called the Minority Mental Health

989
01:32:29,070 --> 01:32:36,490
a social group and they are having a minority mental health fair at the African-American Community Center in Lake

990
01:32:36,490 --> 01:32:45,650
Jantelai and I'm helping them organize that. They used to be a hellier park, but they kind of got

991
01:32:45,650 --> 01:32:53,730
kicked out of hellier park. The county, I don't know what the rules are, but they're sort of like maybe

992
01:32:55,210 --> 01:33:03,810
come on county. You're the county government. You should be going out of your way to help that kind of organization, right?

993
01:33:04,270 --> 01:33:09,330
Because the county provides the mental health services for starting a little bit. Okay. Well, I'll help them out.

994
01:33:09,590 --> 01:33:22,470
I also talked to the share, the communicate with the sheriff and the day about encampment issues to get their perspectives on incarceration, prosecution, so forth.

995
01:33:22,470 --> 01:33:25,770
And that was very interesting here where they had to say.

996
01:33:27,750 --> 01:33:38,350
So lastly, Madam Chair, at some point a lot of us have known, I've known Victor Garza for

997
01:33:38,350 --> 01:33:39,750
40 years, okay?

998
01:33:40,090 --> 01:33:41,830
Lots of known, at least that long.

999
01:33:43,170 --> 01:33:48,590
And I think it's very important to do something special for Victor at some point.

1000
01:33:48,590 --> 01:33:52,150
And I'd like to hear the opinions of my colleagues,

1001
01:33:53,050 --> 01:33:56,250
maybe we can adjourn a future meeting in this name,

1002
01:33:56,850 --> 01:33:58,670
but also do some special for Victor.

1003
01:33:59,030 --> 01:34:05,330
I think Victor just had so much influence on so many people

1004
01:34:05,330 --> 01:34:10,230
in terms of social justice, in terms of civil rights,

1005
01:34:13,690 --> 01:34:17,510
just over a long decades and decades,

1006
01:34:18,190 --> 01:34:22,790
and had influence on many of us in terms of what we did.

1007
01:34:26,370 --> 01:34:29,160
So, to me, it was very sad to see him pass

1008
01:34:31,410 --> 01:34:35,730
and at some point we can honor him in some way more and just adjuring the debate.

1009
01:34:36,170 --> 01:34:38,050
Okay, well we'll come on that. Okay.

1010
01:34:40,410 --> 01:34:44,770
Okay, there's so now we're under 16

1011
01:34:44,770 --> 01:34:54,430
a journey. As we end today's meeting, I invite you all to join valley water and community

1012
01:34:54,430 --> 01:34:59,970
nationwide in celebrating June as LGBTQI.

1013
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:11,540
By a to ask plus, right months, celebrating LGBT plus people's contribution to the field of medicine and healthcare.

1014
01:35:12,480 --> 01:35:21,620
Also, Caribbean, American heritage months honoring the dreams and achievements of Caribbean Americans.

1015
01:35:21,620 --> 01:35:33,020
and immigrants heritage months, which allow us to explore our immigration heritage and celebrate our shared diversity annually.

1016
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:50,240
So in alignment with the value of diversity, equity, and inclusion, we honor the history and achievement of LGBTQIA to us to ask plus Caribbean American

1017
01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:53,440
and immigrant communities nationwide.

1018
01:35:54,440 --> 01:35:56,900
So with that, we'll adjourn this meeting

1019
01:35:56,900 --> 01:36:01,900
to a special closed session board meeting

1020
01:36:01,900 --> 01:36:05,940
that scheduled at 23 today.

1021
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:11,120
And so this meeting is adjourned

1022
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:12,920
and as full member to stay,

1023
01:36:13,060 --> 01:36:15,560
because we need to restart the meeting

1024
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:18,120
again for this special closed session meeting.

1025
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:19,900
So thank you, thank you everybody.