1 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:32,780 All right, let's see, it looks like it's noon time. And that means it's time to call this meeting to order. Could we have a roll call please, clerk person. 2 00:00:33,480 --> 00:00:41,560 Good afternoon to the committee. Madame Bramble on your liaison for today committee members. Please unmute yourself when we can do roll call. 3 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:52,460 Director Gary Kremlin here. Director Richard Santos. Yes. Director John Vorella. 4 00:00:53,240 --> 00:01:01,020 Here. We do have a forum. That's excellent. Okay, so now that we've taken 5 00:01:01,020 --> 00:01:08,220 role, we're going to move on to public comment. And this is public comment on items that are 6 00:01:08,220 --> 00:01:21,700 not on the agenda, but relevant to this committee, so if it's relevant to a item, feel free to speak during that time unless you can't make it, and if you can't make it, and I was a good time to do it. 7 00:01:22,220 --> 00:01:29,380 So do we have anyone who's raised their hand? Anyone who's given you any communication, Glenna, anything like that? 8 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,320 Glenna, can we heard from anyone? 9 00:01:37,860 --> 00:01:45,600 through the chair. No, sorry. I had a technical difficulty. I haven't heard from anyone. No hands raised. 10 00:01:46,060 --> 00:01:52,700 All right. Well, if that's true, we're going to move on to approve minutes of the July 19th, 2021 meeting. 11 00:01:53,660 --> 00:01:59,980 Does anyone have any questions or staff comments, board comments or public comments? 12 00:01:59,980 --> 00:02:06,680 That does motion to approve the minutes. Seconded motion. All right, we have a motion 13 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:12,740 a second. Any further public comments, clerk person, you see any? If not, we're going 14 00:02:12,740 --> 00:02:19,980 to take no at this time. Okay, so we're going to move on. Director. Okay. Director Chair 15 00:02:19,980 --> 00:02:21,640 Crimin? Yes. 16 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,960 Director Richard Centos. Yes. 17 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,420 And Director John Verella. Yes. 18 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,920 And then I will say a proof. Thank you. 19 00:02:34,100 --> 00:02:37,160 Past. Okay. We're going to move on to action items. 20 00:02:38,540 --> 00:02:39,500 Groundwater, update. 21 00:02:40,920 --> 00:02:44,100 I'm not sure I see this actually. Well, why don't we just go do it. 22 00:02:44,300 --> 00:02:48,720 Staff, could we get an update on what's going on with storage projects 23 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,740 with respect to groundwater? 24 00:02:50,740 --> 00:02:52,620 Good afternoon, Chair Kremlin. 25 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,040 This afternoon definitely for water supply division. 26 00:02:55,420 --> 00:02:59,580 I'll turn the forward to Andrew Garcia for the groundwater banking update. 27 00:02:59,980 --> 00:03:01,200 Thank you. 28 00:03:04,260 --> 00:03:04,860 Good afternoon. 29 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,460 Just take a second here today for my screen. 30 00:03:08,620 --> 00:03:10,420 Let me know when it pops up for you. 31 00:03:14,340 --> 00:03:15,360 Is that working alright? 32 00:03:19,870 --> 00:03:20,810 I'm assuming so. 33 00:03:21,150 --> 00:03:21,170 Okay. 34 00:03:21,190 --> 00:03:25,610 So we wanted to give a quick update on the groundwater banking projects for you all. 35 00:03:25,650 --> 00:03:29,630 I didn't prepare a PowerPoint as you all seen. 36 00:03:29,630 --> 00:03:36,830 There are projects and we don't have a two big of an update, but we wanted an opportunity to check in and let you all ask some questions. 37 00:03:37,730 --> 00:03:42,210 At the last committee meeting in June earlier this year, we presented this table. 38 00:03:42,770 --> 00:03:46,550 And at the request of this committee, we added that Pleasant Valley Water District. 39 00:03:47,310 --> 00:03:51,730 And they point of vista water storage district, long term exchange concept to this table. 40 00:03:51,730 --> 00:04:02,930 One update on the Buena Vista exchange, we've been asked by Buena Vista to put this discussion on forth until further notice. 41 00:04:04,430 --> 00:04:12,350 But if there's any questions on that, be happy to answer. But for now, we'll put the information here until we do resume conversations sometime next year with Buena Vista. 42 00:04:13,410 --> 00:04:19,890 I assume we have conversations with just them, not everyone else. 43 00:04:20,350 --> 00:04:21,570 That's correct. 44 00:04:22,870 --> 00:04:24,130 Thank you. 45 00:04:25,090 --> 00:04:29,490 So for, we'll start from left to right here for the McMillan groundwater bank. 46 00:04:29,590 --> 00:04:30,890 What they refer into as aquatera. 47 00:04:31,570 --> 00:04:35,190 We've been having numerous conversations with McMillan staff. 48 00:04:35,690 --> 00:04:39,970 McMillan's recently completed a draft feasibility report and the water quality analysis 49 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:11,600 At the same time, McMillan is developing a preliminary partnership agreement with terms that I know this committee will be interested in. 50 00:05:12,980 --> 00:05:19,380 And so the results of both of those documents, the agreement, the feasibility report and water quality analysis, 51 00:05:19,660 --> 00:05:27,220 with planning on bringing that to the committee, probably January of next year, once we have an opportunity to complete that analysis and bring that information to you all. 52 00:05:27,220 --> 00:05:46,300 At the same time, DWR will be completing their review of McMillan's groundwater sustainability plan, January of 2022, and we plan on having conversations with Department of Water Resources, Bureau of Reclamation, and also the local agencies that rely on the Mendoza pool and me, bring this up. 53 00:05:46,300 --> 00:05:53,940 So as a reminder, this map was in the packet, the aquatera water bank would use the 54 00:05:53,940 --> 00:05:56,380 Mendo to pool as a main conveying point. 55 00:05:56,780 --> 00:06:02,040 And so we plan on having conversations with McMillan staff and the various agencies that 56 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,840 operate in and around the Mendo to pool to better understand their interest in the project 57 00:06:05,840 --> 00:06:07,560 and how they see the project. 58 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,960 So a lot of that information, the results of those conversations and the documents are referred 59 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:16,280 to earlier, will be brought back to this committee, what were estimating around January, 60 00:06:16,280 --> 00:06:17,720 We're here next year. 61 00:06:17,860 --> 00:06:18,600 Yes, Diane. 62 00:06:19,300 --> 00:06:21,000 Don't talk to us about what you think the market. 63 00:06:22,980 --> 00:06:26,160 Let me pause there and see if you have any any questions on that. 64 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,180 We come along and talk with Tara bank. 65 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:31,860 Chairman. 66 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:33,500 Yes, sir. 67 00:06:36,190 --> 00:06:37,090 Just a comment. 68 00:06:37,910 --> 00:06:41,230 When it comes to all of these, I'm, I'm no different than you and John. 69 00:06:41,350 --> 00:06:45,410 We all are eager to get an alternate source or get whatever we can and water. 70 00:06:45,830 --> 00:06:47,230 But when it comes to all these transfers, 71 00:06:47,230 --> 00:06:53,870 one of the issues we have taught terribly about when we can't transfer what's the cost of 72 00:06:53,870 --> 00:06:59,610 pumping and is it available when we can't transfer or get the water we need when it comes time. 73 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:11,580 Yeah, so to follow up on that I think the paraphrase director Santosis we don't you know when times 74 00:07:11,580 --> 00:07:18,700 are good semi-traffic and everything south of us is good but when times are bad they're useless they're 75 00:07:18,700 --> 00:07:25,120 less than useless, because people think we have it there. Kind of like, money in the bank, 76 00:07:25,300 --> 00:07:30,040 but during a bank run, it doesn't happen. So I think what we're saying is, 77 00:07:31,260 --> 00:07:37,820 some of these need to be rank-ordered, like, Arvin, you know, Eastern Current, it just don't work because 78 00:07:37,820 --> 00:07:45,060 of that. But we need to know the cost if we had to pump. I hope it never happens, but 79 00:07:45,060 --> 00:07:48,280 No longer in this lifetime can we say anything as assured. 80 00:07:48,860 --> 00:07:51,020 So we've got to find out what that cost is because 81 00:07:51,020 --> 00:07:53,160 we really never talk about that. 82 00:07:55,290 --> 00:07:57,910 Yeah, so just to reply to that. 83 00:07:58,090 --> 00:07:59,130 Yeah, just to reply to those questions. 84 00:07:59,250 --> 00:08:00,610 I think that's a very, very good point. 85 00:08:01,010 --> 00:08:03,610 And we have this recovery pathway, criteria, 86 00:08:03,910 --> 00:08:05,550 or section in the matrix table. 87 00:08:06,450 --> 00:08:11,270 We've heard you, and we understand that the reliability 88 00:08:11,270 --> 00:08:14,210 of conveyance in return water is a main priority, right? 89 00:08:14,210 --> 00:08:19,290 If you recall, I believe it was a year ago, so probably at the next meeting, it makes sense to bring this back. 90 00:08:20,570 --> 00:08:26,190 Myself and others are an important water unit developed objectives to evaluate, to rank, just like you said, 91 00:08:26,490 --> 00:08:33,630 Director Cremant, to rank these projects based on certain criteria, one of those being the reliability of that conveyance. 92 00:08:33,750 --> 00:08:39,310 And so, as we evaluate each of these projects, we are evaluating whether there's an opportunity for direct conveyance. 93 00:08:39,310 --> 00:09:01,970 And so working with McMillan staff, for example, we're asking them to include in their feasibility work, in their engineering work, the potential for direct conveyance, whether that be utilizing the Delta Mendoza Canal, for example, and then to put a cost on it, just as director Santos mentioned, so that we can bring that to you all to understand, is there an opportunity for direct conveyance and if so, what would that cost impact be to this project. 94 00:09:02,630 --> 00:09:11,630 And on the AVAC project, we're currently evaluating, I guess we can just get right into that. 95 00:09:11,930 --> 00:09:16,070 We're currently evaluating a pilot banking program for two or three years, 96 00:09:16,590 --> 00:09:21,970 and the intent of that would be to test the feasibility of working with AVAC to see if they would 97 00:09:23,510 --> 00:09:28,330 store water in San Luis Reservoir on behalf of Valley Water as a banking partner, 98 00:09:28,330 --> 00:09:31,330 which would provide that reliability in those dry years. 99 00:09:31,730 --> 00:09:34,190 And currently the terms we're seeing has that language. 100 00:09:36,190 --> 00:09:42,350 And so when we get that to a place where we think it's ready, 101 00:10:00,750 --> 00:10:24,750 Okay? Through the chair? Yes. So, Andrew, if you could discuss what the Bureau of Reclamation and also DWR are doing in reference to blockage of exchanges at this particular time that I understand they are proposing. Do you have any information on that? 102 00:10:25,650 --> 00:10:28,550 Cindy, did you want to take that one? 103 00:10:29,690 --> 00:10:30,110 Sure. 104 00:10:31,190 --> 00:10:36,790 At this point, DWR and the Bureau are facilitating our transfers. 105 00:10:37,750 --> 00:10:42,870 We aren't engaging in exchanges at this point other than getting our semi-traffic water out. 106 00:10:43,790 --> 00:10:50,130 DWR has been extremely supportive and helpful this year in getting our semi-traffic out. 107 00:10:50,130 --> 00:10:56,770 planning to, we are expecting to get all of our anticipated take from some of my traffic this year. 108 00:10:57,130 --> 00:10:59,150 That's good news, thank you. Yeah. 109 00:10:59,490 --> 00:11:04,810 Rick or Braula, if I may ask, are you referring to the recent potential that we heard about 110 00:11:04,810 --> 00:11:09,370 due to the curtailments that there was a protection pack on the transfers? 111 00:11:10,750 --> 00:11:15,810 I guess so, yeah. I mean, I just heard this. That's why I'm asking you, you know, 112 00:11:15,810 --> 00:11:22,950 That wasn't really a blocking, it was just that the conditions in a Delta may have impacted the ability to pump out of the Delta. 113 00:11:23,250 --> 00:11:29,410 So it wasn't a regulatory or administrative action by DWR is merely the conditions in a Delta. 114 00:11:29,690 --> 00:11:30,990 But they've been very supportive. 115 00:11:31,590 --> 00:11:36,250 In fact, they had went over an extra mile to help us get our semi-traffic water out. 116 00:11:36,450 --> 00:11:40,150 And we just heard that the transfer that we purchased will be flowing through the Delta. 117 00:11:40,210 --> 00:11:43,490 Thanks to the extra rainfall we got that improved the conditions in the Delta. 118 00:11:44,330 --> 00:11:46,450 That's all good news. Thank you. 119 00:11:49,380 --> 00:11:49,380 Good. 120 00:11:51,780 --> 00:12:04,480 So moving on to the final project, the one that we just recently added back to the matrix, the Pleasant Valley Water District Water Bank, the conceptual water bank. So we put together this map just to generally show the location. 121 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:05,620 Just quick reference. 122 00:12:06,420 --> 00:12:13,300 We're on circling around this area. This is Wesleyan's Water District here. So Pleasant Valley Water District is just south of Wesleyan's Water District. 123 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,780 at the end of the Co-Alingu Canal off the California Aquaduct. 124 00:12:18,980 --> 00:12:24,940 So what this map is showing is how the potential transfer or bank would work and I think 125 00:12:24,940 --> 00:12:30,380 direct the criminal like you're saying this potential project would rely on an exchange, right? 126 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:38,300 And so because of its low case, it's being south of Samus Reservoir, south of Samus Reservoir, 127 00:12:49,520 --> 00:13:01,860 So we've been in conversation with pleasant valley. They are working on putting together a new project description. They currently are planning on submitting their groundwater sustainability plan to the water. 128 00:13:01,860 --> 00:13:11,460 I mean, if it's, if it's another semi-traffic number two, why would we go any farther? 129 00:13:16,460 --> 00:13:23,340 So, Brad Gleason, the manager down there at Pleasant Valley Water District, has put together a early project description of what this water bank could look like. 130 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:30,580 Because it would be CDP water on the CDP system, there's potential for there to be partners to have a more reliable exchange. 131 00:13:30,580 --> 00:13:34,740 And so what we're waiting for and we provided those comments exactly what you're saying, right? 132 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,040 And we need that reliability on the exchange side. 133 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,780 And so he's revising that project description now based on staff comments. 134 00:13:42,340 --> 00:13:46,220 And so once we see those comments and are able to have that follow-up conversation, 135 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,800 I believe that that point is what will make that determination of whether or not we're basically looking at another 136 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:55,580 semi-traffic scenario or whether there may be a more reliable exchange opportunity with 137 00:13:55,580 --> 00:14:02,100 VP supply, be it recognition themselves, or some other CVP contractor that may have more senior 138 00:14:02,100 --> 00:14:02,820 water rights. 139 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:08,540 All right. 140 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:20,660 So maybe why this might work different is he's a CVP contractor, isn't they out in a wide area 141 00:14:20,660 --> 00:14:21,560 out there? 142 00:14:22,300 --> 00:14:23,200 They're actually there in the seat. 143 00:14:23,300 --> 00:14:24,040 He plays a use. 144 00:14:24,220 --> 00:14:25,880 They just don't have a CVP contract. 145 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:41,980 And so they're right adjacent to Westlands, and so you can, you can imagine the potential scenarios off the aqueduct of the color link that can out down here, there we need, there we need to be conversations with less water district course or additional reclamation themselves about making an exchange happen. 146 00:14:42,100 --> 00:14:53,660 And so we're having him revise this project description, think it through a little bit on that end. I believe he has consultant working on those types of scenarios. And once he comes back to us, we'll have the conversations with the necessary agencies and see if there's a potential concept here. 147 00:14:53,660 --> 00:14:57,600 If there is, we'll continue the conversations, and if there's not anything, like you said, director 148 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,980 Kremlin, then we should, and we'll most likely... 149 00:15:00,940 --> 00:15:07,340 There are other potential exchanges that have less risk and higher confidence, and we're open to that. 150 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:15,140 But if that doesn't work out, we'll eliminate the options or recommend the main options, but we are very sensitized to exchange as a recurring method. 151 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:24,120 But right now when we do want to let the options play out and see if there's an opportunity for more higher confidence exchange mechanism. 152 00:15:24,660 --> 00:15:31,160 Of course, if there was a direct mechanism, that was a cost affordable, we would definitely have a preference to that direct recovery. 153 00:15:34,930 --> 00:15:35,270 Thanks. 154 00:15:36,750 --> 00:15:41,010 The last update I have for you all is I believe at the last storage committee meeting. 155 00:15:41,150 --> 00:15:54,450 There was a request for imported water unit folks directly working on these groundwater banks just because there is so many water banks and so many projects up and down the state to look into getting consultant support on some of the business development site. 156 00:15:54,450 --> 00:16:20,030 And so we've since gone and done that, and we've recently executed a contract to add some support out in the Sammo King Valley that are actually in the rooms with a lot of these various GSAs and water districts to help us think through some of these contacts or projects and also put us in contact with the necessary folks who may be developing new projects that we're not aware of, for example, or to help us continue these conversations more frequently. 157 00:16:23,570 --> 00:16:23,750 Great. 158 00:16:26,950 --> 00:16:30,110 So with that, that's my update unless there's any other questions. 159 00:16:38,450 --> 00:16:39,470 Let's go on. 160 00:16:44,470 --> 00:16:45,650 Sure, Criman. 161 00:16:47,330 --> 00:16:51,950 It sounds like we are, there are no fully discussions of 4.1 and we're being 2.4. 162 00:16:52,030 --> 00:16:52,950 The next time, 4.2. 163 00:16:54,030 --> 00:16:54,750 That's exactly. 164 00:16:55,070 --> 00:16:57,390 You don't have any public comment here, I guess. 165 00:16:57,590 --> 00:16:58,770 I don't see any. 166 00:16:59,090 --> 00:17:04,150 So we might as well go on to the next option. 167 00:17:06,410 --> 00:17:15,370 Thank you Chair, Elizabeth Kerbs, a reserve expansion project update for that update. We have Michael Martin on deck to provide a brief update to the committee. 168 00:17:21,270 --> 00:17:22,550 Mike, I think you're still muted. 169 00:17:23,550 --> 00:17:25,910 I am still muted. Thank you. Thank you, Vince. 170 00:17:27,110 --> 00:17:29,690 We've got to name chair, Cramon and members of the committee. 171 00:17:30,450 --> 00:17:32,810 I'm just providing a quick update a couple of major milestones. 172 00:17:34,470 --> 00:17:36,350 We've got to close with Crosis regionally hit. 173 00:17:36,870 --> 00:17:39,990 The first is the all departments approved the JPA agreement, 174 00:17:40,130 --> 00:17:42,010 and that was filed with the state on October 6th. 175 00:17:43,170 --> 00:17:45,790 Of course, the JAPO have a tone boarded director's with the representative 176 00:17:45,790 --> 00:17:47,330 from each member agency. 177 00:17:47,890 --> 00:17:50,290 Director Lizette was appointed to represent Valley Water, 178 00:17:50,450 --> 00:17:51,890 which director of Rela as the alternate. 179 00:17:53,070 --> 00:17:55,650 And over view of the JAPO with the list of all the JAPO members, 180 00:17:56,190 --> 00:17:58,650 And the alternates included in the attachment one. 181 00:17:59,390 --> 00:18:02,890 So that lists all the JPM members there or board members there. 182 00:18:03,270 --> 00:18:06,070 The first meeting of the JPM board we held in mid November. 183 00:18:06,550 --> 00:18:10,130 And that will be focusing on a lot of the administrative issues. 184 00:18:10,530 --> 00:18:12,950 Determining a chair and vice chair. 185 00:18:13,350 --> 00:18:18,770 Like I said, it will look at a lot of the administrative issues to get the GPA up and running. 186 00:18:19,990 --> 00:18:22,710 The board eventually has to come together take over project planning, 187 00:18:22,710 --> 00:18:25,970 project funding over-seek instruction and operations. 188 00:18:27,030 --> 00:18:30,630 And next to the JPLB focus on three major tasks, 189 00:18:30,950 --> 00:18:32,830 the development and interim funding agreement. 190 00:18:33,770 --> 00:18:36,810 To date, all the project planning has been split equally 191 00:18:36,810 --> 00:18:39,310 among partners, the interim funding agreement 192 00:18:39,310 --> 00:18:43,790 likely split those costs between how each agency is using 193 00:18:43,790 --> 00:18:45,530 proposing to use the facilities. 194 00:18:46,190 --> 00:18:48,750 Second agreement is a facility's use of 195 00:18:48,750 --> 00:18:50,650 with contract costs that needs to be mud. 196 00:18:50,790 --> 00:18:53,730 The use of various facilities is part of the loose-to-growth project. 197 00:18:54,770 --> 00:18:58,530 And the third is the development of service agreements with each partner, 198 00:18:59,050 --> 00:19:01,750 which will define how each partner proposes, how much storage 199 00:19:01,750 --> 00:19:04,770 they want anticipated and advance, et cetera. 200 00:19:05,450 --> 00:19:07,820 So that's all geared for next year. 201 00:19:09,730 --> 00:19:12,190 Agreement with the GPU have to be making. 202 00:19:13,230 --> 00:19:17,070 The second major milestone for the project is 203 00:19:17,070 --> 00:19:20,290 It went to the California Water Commission 204 00:19:20,290 --> 00:19:22,710 for its feasibility hearing on October 20th, 205 00:19:22,750 --> 00:19:23,610 and it was deemed feasible. 206 00:19:24,330 --> 00:19:25,870 That paved the way for continued planning 207 00:19:25,870 --> 00:19:29,310 and hearing in 2022 for a final ward of visit funding. 208 00:19:30,590 --> 00:19:32,290 So those are the major milestones 209 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:34,950 that recently come up for our most of the carols. 210 00:19:35,270 --> 00:19:37,970 You'd open down any questions from the committee. 211 00:20:11,410 --> 00:20:13,310 Gary are muted. 212 00:20:15,330 --> 00:20:27,790 Yeah, I'm having some internet challenge, just here, all with these. So sorry about that. Is there a question on the floor? People want a public comment? 213 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:45,360 I know far through the chair, Gary, is there anything going right in this pursuance of local kiddos? Because I know sure eager to get that source going is a smooth as all of partners working together, what's the latest report? 214 00:20:47,220 --> 00:20:51,620 Well, I think that wouldn't be more staff. 215 00:20:52,260 --> 00:20:57,220 I don't think the tentative deal, it wasn't a deal. 216 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,720 It was a placeholder's satisfactory at least to me. 217 00:21:01,620 --> 00:21:06,200 But now that we'll have an APA board to negotiate, 218 00:21:07,820 --> 00:21:10,610 we'll have some people to negotiate with. 219 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,760 But that's just my opinion. 220 00:21:13,740 --> 00:21:19,480 And that board hasn't met your ability, you know, I'm busy, I'm going to call in on another device. 221 00:21:19,940 --> 00:21:25,380 Sorry about this for everyone, typical internet. 222 00:21:26,260 --> 00:21:33,840 But why don't you want, I think, just to like chair, like the back, maybe John is so. 223 00:21:35,620 --> 00:21:39,400 And with my points of JTA, he has not yet met to, that's a correct. 224 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,920 They haven't met yet their first meeting will be in in November. 225 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:51,280 So after that, we'll be able to have more of information in the, I would imagine January time frame, I'm a meeting in December. 226 00:21:52,380 --> 00:21:56,000 Well, when I will provide an update after, after the meeting of November. 227 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:03,180 Yeah, that'll help us find some the timelines in terms of when decisions will need to be made and we'll be preparing the things back to the committee. 228 00:22:05,740 --> 00:22:12,780 So, any other questions, public comment and reference to the Reservoir Expansion 229 00:22:12,780 --> 00:22:13,600 Lusflikettos, 230 00:22:16,510 --> 00:22:16,790 all right? 231 00:22:17,710 --> 00:22:22,550 So, let's move on to 4.3, particular Reservoir Expansion projects, staff recommended 232 00:22:22,550 --> 00:22:24,450 alternative and project update. 233 00:22:27,350 --> 00:22:31,670 Back to your own, by short, we're allowed to have a committee, for say, except the operating 234 00:22:31,670 --> 00:22:32,530 office for the answer. 235 00:22:32,830 --> 00:22:36,870 We need to turn the floor over to Ryan McCarton, for a brief presentation, and then, says 236 00:22:36,870 --> 00:22:37,610 a big thing. 237 00:22:37,610 --> 00:22:38,930 Thank you, Chris. 238 00:22:41,140 --> 00:22:42,980 Afternoon to the committee and attendees. 239 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,360 Today we have two items to share with the committee, 240 00:22:46,940 --> 00:22:50,000 a short presentation of the draft that staff recommended alternative, 241 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,120 as well as a project update covering the status of the project, 242 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,100 including funding through WIFIA and partnerships. 243 00:22:57,220 --> 00:22:59,740 Would the committee prefer to start with a particular topic, 244 00:22:59,980 --> 00:23:02,560 or just start with the presentation and follow the order 245 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,480 in which the agenda memo has everything? 246 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,200 Yeah, let's just go through the general order of the presentation. 247 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:07,940 Okay. 248 00:23:07,940 --> 00:23:10,420 We bring that up now. 249 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,480 Have we seen that? 250 00:23:32,610 --> 00:23:32,930 All screens? 251 00:23:36,950 --> 00:23:42,130 The staff recommended alternative report is a culmination of the planning phase activities, including 252 00:23:42,130 --> 00:23:46,070 the alternative analysis performed to select the recommended alternative. 253 00:23:47,870 --> 00:23:53,330 Our team has been studying the particular reservoir expansion project site shown here for almost three years now. 254 00:23:53,570 --> 00:23:59,430 Performing field investigations, conducting analyses, and coordination of the various regulatory agencies. 255 00:23:59,430 --> 00:24:02,790 to develop the many different components of this project. 256 00:24:04,970 --> 00:24:09,810 These are the five different project alternatives that we're analyzed during our planning phase activities, 257 00:24:10,030 --> 00:24:11,770 as well as in the draft EIR. 258 00:24:12,550 --> 00:24:16,750 And these were presented to the committee in the board earlier in 2021. 259 00:24:17,030 --> 00:24:17,850 I believe in January. 260 00:24:18,950 --> 00:24:22,950 So we have the downstream site with the earth filled dam. 261 00:24:23,650 --> 00:24:27,870 As number one, the downstream site with the hard filled dam is number two. 262 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:10,080 So, the staff recommended alternative that came out on top was the fourth alternative here, which is the upstream hard fields. So, I'll give him a little bit more detail about that. 263 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:26,280 If you look at this, there we go. Here's a summary of the project design progression, starting with the with the application concept from 2017 there on the left. This was the downstream earth bill option. 264 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:34,220 that our team is analyzed, and then we advanced this configuration with two technical data 265 00:25:34,220 --> 00:25:39,260 added several features in greater detail and updated the design in 2020, if you see there 266 00:25:39,260 --> 00:25:43,480 in the middle, and this was the two and a half billion dollar project that we presented the 267 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:49,440 late last year and early in 2021. So now we have our staff recommended alternative on the right, 268 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:54,780 which is the hard-filled damage upstream site. So you can see how much we've moved and also 269 00:25:54,780 --> 00:25:58,340 that the change in the footprint there on the hard-filled dam. 270 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,200 So taking a look closer, look at the recommended alternative here, a few general points 271 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:13,040 why this alternative is preferred, does have a smaller environmental impact area, just due 272 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,720 to the less construction area needed to build a type of dam. 273 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:22,060 We have about a 10 to 15 percent reduction in the construction cost compared to the preliminary 274 00:26:22,060 --> 00:26:27,540 design we had, and it also reduces the construction schedule by one year utilizing the 275 00:26:27,540 --> 00:26:35,100 type. The upstream dam site has some definite benefits to it. There's improved geotechnical 276 00:26:35,100 --> 00:26:41,020 conditions, allowing for less foundation excavation. The site is better geographically. 277 00:26:41,220 --> 00:26:45,480 It's a smaller dam. It's a narrower part of the canyon, so it's just a smaller amount 278 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:52,260 of volume needed to build the dam. And also, moving upstream added one additional mile of 279 00:26:52,260 --> 00:26:59,020 of Creek Restoration of the existing reservoir, so we'll get to design that and have a new 280 00:26:59,020 --> 00:27:06,360 mile of restored Northport, particular Creek. Also, the pump station site is much more favorable 281 00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:12,080 with this arrangement, the flatter area, and it's got sufficient distance away from the dam 282 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,460 to kind of give us some room to build that as well. 283 00:27:19,340 --> 00:27:20,900 Okay, so here's some engineering drawings 284 00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:26,400 of the hard-filled dam. You can see the small footprint of the dam and upper left as well as 285 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:31,460 the spillway integrated within the body of the dam right here. That's what this rectangle is. 286 00:27:31,660 --> 00:27:36,120 So the spillway goes right over the center of the dam. That's also shown in this cross section here. 287 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,760 That's what that will look like. And the lower left cross section illustrates the inlet 288 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:48,020 and outlet works within the dam. This is shaft here and an outlet and there's an inlet at the bottom 289 00:27:48,020 --> 00:27:55,140 low-level inlet and then three different attets that allow flexibility in getting different water 290 00:27:55,140 --> 00:28:02,560 temperatures based on the reservoir depth. So this data is a art technology. I think I've 291 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:07,160 talked about this before, the mixture of on-site rock and cement that is a place similar to 292 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:13,020 roll or compacted concrete and it allows for the type of dam, also allows for less maintenance 293 00:28:13,020 --> 00:28:15,300 that we typically see at our Earthville dance. 294 00:28:16,340 --> 00:28:18,360 So, whether the benefits of this type of dance, 295 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,300 that we found in our analysis, 296 00:28:23,540 --> 00:28:25,060 and that's it for the presentation. 297 00:28:27,140 --> 00:28:28,020 Any questions on that? 298 00:28:28,300 --> 00:28:29,760 Well, a couple of questions for you. 299 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,320 So, in looking at the, 300 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,800 guess a slide that shows the location, 301 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:36,960 recommended alternative, 302 00:28:39,020 --> 00:28:42,300 or we are bordering the state park, is that correct? 303 00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:44,340 That is correct. 304 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:51,340 The inundation area does this go about three quarters of a mile into the state park at full pool. 305 00:28:51,620 --> 00:28:52,540 At the head of the site. 306 00:28:53,220 --> 00:29:01,300 We had discussions with the state in reference to that and also the locally elected state representatives in reference to. 307 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:07,020 The impacts that might have and are we getting positive results from those anticipated comments and statements. 308 00:29:07,020 --> 00:29:16,020 We have had conversations with state parks at the state level, the director of state parks as well as at the local level. 309 00:29:16,620 --> 00:29:18,680 And it has been pretty positive so far. 310 00:29:19,020 --> 00:29:26,000 That area of the park is just outside of the trails that are used from the Dowdy Ranch Visitor Center. 311 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:32,800 And they don't see any major impacts and again that will only be impacted at full pool when we're at 100% capacity. 312 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:39,670 So when that park part of the park is open during the summer, we likely won't be at 100% so 313 00:29:42,100 --> 00:29:49,230 We're encouraging recreation and perhaps even boating is that correct on that and that would be a county issue that we'll be working with 314 00:29:49,940 --> 00:29:53,720 Yeah, we haven't we haven't gotten too far on that topic with the county so far 315 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:58,380 But we have we have initiated discussions and presented the project to them and potential 316 00:29:59,460 --> 00:29:59,960 ideas 317 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:07,520 Is on the tribal discoveries that were recently found? Have those been mitigated? 318 00:30:09,140 --> 00:30:17,200 We're working with the tribes directly, so they were out there. They've seen the site and they've been given the data that we found out there in our discoveries. 319 00:30:17,380 --> 00:30:29,220 A lot of the sites were previously known and we also found some new sites of archaeological interest that we've been working with on a much in tribal band and bringing them out to the site. 320 00:30:29,220 --> 00:30:31,260 and there are some reverials that occurred 321 00:30:31,260 --> 00:30:32,960 from some items that were recovered. 322 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,700 And yeah, we're working together with them 323 00:30:35,700 --> 00:30:38,060 and we haven't developed what the mitigation will be 324 00:30:38,060 --> 00:30:40,920 at, but we are talking to them. 325 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:41,780 Okay, good. 326 00:30:41,780 --> 00:30:42,180 Thank you. 327 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:42,820 Those are my questions. 328 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:43,560 I appreciate it. 329 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,240 Do I have to say something to you? 330 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:45,780 Do you have a question? 331 00:30:46,300 --> 00:30:48,720 Yeah, John, thanks for bringing that up. 332 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,440 Here's a suggestion I have. 333 00:30:50,780 --> 00:30:52,240 And again, I'm not giving direction. 334 00:30:52,500 --> 00:30:54,840 I'm just suggesting this. 335 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,940 Because of John's relationship with Senator Anna 336 00:30:58,940 --> 00:31:02,840 and also Mr. Revis, I would hope that staff, 337 00:31:03,460 --> 00:31:06,380 when you guys get a chance and you're having those discussions, 338 00:31:07,260 --> 00:31:11,200 that see if we can get Director Barrel involved in that, 339 00:31:11,340 --> 00:31:13,280 because the relationship has already been started. 340 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,320 John has had these conversations years ago about recreation. 341 00:31:16,860 --> 00:31:19,020 And this is the only way we're going to be able to protrude 342 00:31:19,020 --> 00:31:22,880 at the Henry Co. Park, if that, and what gets me is this, 343 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,540 I mean, it's going to be helpful. 344 00:31:24,540 --> 00:31:31,540 Once people see that the director is there, being involved, it just shows more importance. 345 00:31:31,940 --> 00:31:35,840 And so I sure appreciate what you're doing Ryan and Christopher, you're doing a great job. 346 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:41,790 But I really would suggest that so John, if we need a direction or consensus, let's do that. 347 00:31:42,100 --> 00:31:43,580 That's my suggestion first. 348 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,680 I think that's a really very good point, director. 349 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,880 I've already started my discussions as you are well aware, 350 00:31:50,880 --> 00:32:00,360 with Assemblymember Robert Revis, as recently yesterday, and also with state-centered John 351 00:32:01,660 --> 00:32:02,180 Laird. 352 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:07,120 So, these people are very much involved and wanted to do that to work with us on whatever 353 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:11,460 issues there might be in reference to the Jacob, and also with, of course, Senator 354 00:32:11,460 --> 00:32:12,880 Kaviyerov as well. 355 00:32:13,180 --> 00:32:20,260 And including Congressman Jimmy Penetta, who is also very involved in wanting to see this project 356 00:32:20,260 --> 00:32:26,020 come to fruition. So these these folks have political cloud. They will help us also and 357 00:32:26,020 --> 00:32:30,720 getting funding that we might need. So let's make sure that we engage them in conversation 358 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,320 on all these issues pertaining to our water storage projects. 359 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:39,960 What other point, John, is that the reason I'm saying this also, because let's just say, 360 00:32:40,220 --> 00:32:45,540 I sure hope so everything works out. That'll have a relationship that's going to 361 00:32:45,540 --> 00:32:50,840 Go over to Sergeant for Ranch and everything else for the future. Yes, and we're successful there 362 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,400 It makes things just that much 363 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,560 Never gonna be easy, but better 364 00:32:56,340 --> 00:32:58,600 You're right. Thank you. Appreciate that 365 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:05,840 So anyway, you know, those are very strong points of director Santos has brought up and that we're we're you know 366 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:11,740 We're engaging with those elected folks that can make the big difference for us on these on these major projects 367 00:33:14,900 --> 00:33:22,840 direct rattle. I'd like to add on that. Well, I think we, I know we've had COVID, but now 368 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:27,680 that we've had better rules. These are some big decisions. I know I'd like to get out and 369 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:37,240 see the site again. Now that we're more deterministic. So I'd like, does anyone, would all 370 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,160 of us like to go and check it out. 371 00:33:39,340 --> 00:33:42,360 Well, in chair trim, and I didn't know you were back on some glad you were. 372 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:43,680 That's an excellent idea. 373 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,220 We need to keep on top of this and push it. 374 00:33:46,220 --> 00:33:47,760 You know, I made a statement while I'm back, 375 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,920 and I'll do it publicly later on. 376 00:33:50,300 --> 00:33:51,940 You and I and John and our staff, 377 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,820 we all know the particular zone important. 378 00:33:53,980 --> 00:33:55,040 We know this. 379 00:33:55,380 --> 00:33:56,880 But you know, as we now were talking, 380 00:33:57,220 --> 00:33:59,500 you know, a hundred years ago, when Shauna's seen, 381 00:34:00,220 --> 00:34:02,560 and my whole and all those people were taking the hits. 382 00:34:02,980 --> 00:34:04,260 And here we are, a hundred years later, 383 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:05,380 all proven to be right. 384 00:34:05,380 --> 00:34:24,740 Well, the value of water district 20 years from today is going to be proven right when we get this thing done because this is an opportunity that just cannot let go and there's only those do sayers and I welcome the critics, but I also look at the people that want to be positive we got agriculture issues that we talked about today John and I are farming. 385 00:34:24,740 --> 00:34:31,580 This is all relative. We're losing water in a soap lake, going to the ocean. It's all ridiculous. 386 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,540 We know what we're doing. Our staff knows what they're doing. 387 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,280 Water, and we're going forward with it. So thank you. 388 00:35:06,700 --> 00:35:09,120 Okay. Anything else on? 389 00:35:09,620 --> 00:35:15,220 You're going to coordinate with us on getting us out there on a tour of the different sites. 390 00:35:17,190 --> 00:35:18,990 To the existing reservoir. 391 00:35:20,130 --> 00:35:21,750 We want to see the different alternatives. 392 00:35:22,390 --> 00:35:22,430 Yeah. 393 00:35:22,890 --> 00:35:23,490 I do. 394 00:35:24,930 --> 00:35:25,910 Hey, I have an idea. 395 00:35:26,390 --> 00:35:29,530 Hey, Dick, let's get Cal Fire to fly us over there. 396 00:35:29,530 --> 00:35:35,710 And you, John, you're totally right to the chair, they need to be included because that's a source that needs each other. 397 00:35:37,550 --> 00:35:39,390 Good. Good. 398 00:35:41,150 --> 00:35:43,770 Yeah, we'll coordinate with the directors on that. 399 00:35:46,010 --> 00:35:47,090 Thank you. Okay. 400 00:35:48,490 --> 00:35:48,770 All right. 401 00:35:49,650 --> 00:35:55,590 So moving on to the part B, just the project status update and discussion of a few topics on the checkout. 402 00:35:56,650 --> 00:36:00,830 So we're coming to the end of our draft EIR work, which has been a tremendous lift. 403 00:36:01,130 --> 00:36:05,010 The draft EIR is on track for public release in November. 404 00:36:05,010 --> 00:36:07,070 I think the 23rd is the current date. 405 00:36:07,290 --> 00:36:08,850 So that's the Tuesday before Thanksgiving. 406 00:36:09,210 --> 00:36:11,990 So we're really excited to get that done. 407 00:36:13,390 --> 00:36:17,370 The design phase activities are continuing with development of the 30% 408 00:36:17,370 --> 00:36:21,530 design and additional field investigations are being planned together 409 00:36:21,530 --> 00:36:25,510 information to refine the design elements of the project. 410 00:36:26,990 --> 00:36:30,250 That's just kind of the general work we've been doing on the environmental 411 00:36:30,250 --> 00:36:35,950 and design stuff and then so on to funding with water storage investment program with it. 412 00:36:37,410 --> 00:36:42,290 We're approaching the three milestones. The deadline for our with the funding and are 413 00:36:42,290 --> 00:36:47,290 on track to meet the deadline by January 1st 2022. So that's right around the corner and we're 414 00:36:47,290 --> 00:36:54,310 we're on track. We've submitted the updated feasibility documentation to the CWC staff for review 415 00:36:54,310 --> 00:36:59,750 that all look really good and they're going to let us know if it's have any comments on that. 416 00:36:59,750 --> 00:37:05,910 before they present to their to the commission. The draft environmental documentation will be available 417 00:37:05,910 --> 00:37:13,190 for public review as I mentioned with the draft EIR next month and our finance team has drafted 418 00:37:13,710 --> 00:37:19,450 board resolution for the commitment to fund 75% of the non-public funded portion of the project 419 00:37:20,070 --> 00:37:25,990 and this resolution is planned to be presented aboard on November 9th. So given these three milestones 420 00:37:25,990 --> 00:37:32,270 are achieved. The project is scheduled for its eligibility hearing with the CWC on December 15th of this year. 421 00:37:34,390 --> 00:37:36,450 So I'll on track there. Any questions on that? 422 00:37:38,630 --> 00:37:45,090 Through the chair, just a comment. I know to staff and so on and sometimes we come on this 423 00:37:45,090 --> 00:37:50,410 community comes on very strong and we hope we don't hurt nobody's feelings because we're trying to 424 00:37:50,410 --> 00:37:53,770 work so hard. We're with you and you guys are doing a great job. Here's the deal. 425 00:37:53,770 --> 00:38:03,770 You know Anderson is going to take 10 years and the way things are going, this might be able to be done before that, but whatever it takes, we're going to keep on having droughts. 426 00:38:04,650 --> 00:38:11,110 This committee is in a hurry and you guys are working very hard. We've got to uncover every rock, every possible grant. 427 00:38:11,450 --> 00:38:20,430 And please explore the potential President's infrastructure bills, see through some money there. I understand, you know, you can't even go to Europe right now is all worried about it. 428 00:38:20,430 --> 00:38:25,290 too. We all are, but we're gonna look at every possible way because we know we get criticized 429 00:38:25,290 --> 00:38:29,330 continue about water rates. We went through that again today. That's an ever going to go away. 430 00:38:29,370 --> 00:38:35,170 And I got no problem. All I know is this, regardless of rates, water comes first. So Ryan, 431 00:38:35,250 --> 00:38:39,430 thank you. She's bigger. You guys, you're in your staff and Chris of Rehanks. 432 00:38:39,850 --> 00:38:44,470 All you guys, the meetings I've been having with our committees, I couldn't be more satisfied. 433 00:38:45,150 --> 00:38:50,110 The way you guys are working so hard. And I'll tell you, the public out there is supportness. 434 00:38:50,430 --> 00:38:59,010 And so you know what? We got a great opportunity here. We got this committee here has been aggressive for Pacheca from the day one and I've before I get out of here 435 00:38:59,010 --> 00:39:02,070 I hope we can get this thing like Senator Feinstein said about 436 00:39:02,730 --> 00:39:08,550 Why life and other things? Let's do it in our lifetime. So that's a little preaching. Thank you for listening 437 00:39:09,250 --> 00:39:16,510 Thank you, Director Santos. We do appreciate the support. I have two more topics if you'd like to hear more good news 438 00:39:16,510 --> 00:39:17,870 Go for it. 439 00:39:18,390 --> 00:39:24,010 On the withia front, the water infrastructure finance and innovation act, so earlier this year, 440 00:39:24,110 --> 00:39:30,250 we were selected to apply for $660 million in federal funding through withia. 441 00:39:30,730 --> 00:39:36,990 And in July 2021, we submitted a second letter of interest for an additional $575 million 442 00:39:36,990 --> 00:39:41,330 to bring in the total to $1.2 billion in federal loans through withia. 443 00:39:41,330 --> 00:39:46,970 And we were just notified this week, verbally, that this second letter of interest was accepted 444 00:39:46,970 --> 00:39:51,950 by the EPA, allowing us to apply for that $1.2 billion allowance. So really exciting news, 445 00:39:52,470 --> 00:39:57,570 we just talked to the EPA earlier today, and they're very excited, not as well. So great news there. 446 00:40:00,620 --> 00:40:04,620 And then the last topic I have is partnerships. So we are continuing. 447 00:40:04,780 --> 00:40:08,560 And what's the rate? What's the rate on that loan again? 448 00:40:09,380 --> 00:40:14,480 Charlene, I'll have to tell you, but it's like you make money by getting this loan. Sound like. 449 00:40:15,220 --> 00:40:20,140 Yeah. So it's during the chair. This is Charlene's son, Treasury and Data Officer for Valley Water. 450 00:40:20,580 --> 00:40:26,020 With your loan rates are set by as they pay to the Treasury rates. 451 00:40:26,020 --> 00:40:32,000 So, the actual final rate we will find out when we close on the low, but that's for the 452 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:40,100 loans that have closed recently have all been 2% to 1.5% is. So, compared to our regular 453 00:40:40,100 --> 00:40:47,260 tax exempt and tax will long-term financing rates, with your loans are very favorable. There are also 454 00:40:47,260 --> 00:40:53,580 other features associated with a with your loan that makes it very advantageous. For example, 455 00:40:53,580 --> 00:40:59,800 You know, we would not be incurring any interest until we actually draw down on the known. 456 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,940 So for a $1.2 billion loan, that is very advantageous. 457 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,840 We can secure the loan without having to pay interest carry costs until we actually draw on it. 458 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,960 So those are a couple of key points with Wifia. 459 00:41:15,690 --> 00:41:16,690 Thank you. 460 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:20,640 We'll move on to the partnerships. 461 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:27,640 So we're continuing our outreach and now have some experts supporting our efforts with our potential partners. 462 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:33,240 We've brought on water and land solutions, as well as added scope to our contracts with 463 00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:36,640 stand-tech and west water specifically for supporting us in partnerships. 464 00:41:38,940 --> 00:41:43,920 I'm going to be helping us identify partners, performing outreach to potential partners and 465 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:49,640 developing partnerships in areas and working with these folks, so that's good health there. 466 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:55,520 Much needed. On October 14th, just two weeks ago, I was asked to give a presentation to the 467 00:41:55,520 --> 00:42:23,440 central coast water authority on potential partnerships for the Jacob and they responded just this week with a lot of interest representing eight cities and water districts on the central coast that are interested in discussing partnerships with us on the Jacob. So it's very exciting there at the state water contractor. So good news there. And we'll keep working on that lot the work ahead as we develop that kind of list of partners and and develop the outreach for that. 468 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,560 That's all I have today if there's any questions. 469 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:29,760 Hey, work. 470 00:42:30,620 --> 00:42:35,860 But we got a team if we recall our board's number two after Andersen, and of course the 471 00:42:35,860 --> 00:42:40,480 drought is getting partners for Pacheco, so we don't end up taking all the costs ourselves. 472 00:42:41,020 --> 00:42:42,940 So it's good you that some letters of interest. 473 00:42:43,460 --> 00:42:44,480 There's a bunch of big names. 474 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:45,740 I'm not hearing anything about. 475 00:42:45,900 --> 00:42:50,780 I won't go into it now, but I think we definitely want to discuss that first thing 476 00:42:50,780 --> 00:42:51,580 at our next meeting. 477 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,600 I don't know what the risk and director's thing about. 478 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:58,600 I think we need to pursue that dairy post-haste. I do. I think we need to know who's 479 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:03,140 important. I don't know who you're talking about. And I think we need to set those targets up and 480 00:43:03,140 --> 00:43:06,620 start, hey, we're salespeople, let's go and start selling this. 481 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:10,160 That's right. 482 00:43:13,620 --> 00:43:16,540 Great. So you hear how important 483 00:43:16,540 --> 00:43:21,800 this is to the board. So great. That you're paying attention. Okay, why don't we move on to the next 484 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:32,720 ready. Thank you for the chair. We'll have a hand raised by Stephen Jordan. Mr. Jordan, 485 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:40,440 director Jordan. Welcome. Good to see you. Yes, sir. Thank you. I just a quick. I want to say as 486 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:46,640 a member of the public congratulations on the progress on Pacheco. This is fantastic that the 487 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:52,400 budgets down the storage is the same and the partners are up. So, you know, this is I would 488 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,920 a great news. Thank you. Thank you. 489 00:44:06,150 --> 00:44:10,290 All right. Why don't we move on to the next item unless there's any more public comment. 490 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:23,360 Seeing none chair, Clement. Okay, then we can move on to the next item. 491 00:44:31,220 --> 00:44:34,980 Vince, would you would you the on the standing out of report? Would you like to. 492 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:16,680 Members, Vince, again, we have three standing items for verbal update. We have Andrew Garcia on deck for semi-traffic and sites. And subsequently, we have Cindy Gao for the BF system raise project update. So with that, I turn the floor to Andrew. 493 00:45:20,370 --> 00:45:20,950 Thanks, Vince. 494 00:45:22,010 --> 00:45:28,450 So for semi-traffic, quick update. Through September, we've recovered an estimated 17,700-day graffiti. 495 00:45:28,450 --> 00:45:37,430 from the bank, we have about 315,000 acre fee remaining in storage, about 90% full at this point. 496 00:45:38,150 --> 00:45:41,770 And we've been working pretty closely, we've kept you informed throughout the year. 497 00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:47,770 Pretty closely with DWR, South African tractors and other agencies on recovering our supplies from some atrophic. 498 00:45:48,330 --> 00:45:55,050 And DWRs, but confirmed the rest of this year, we're not looking at any challenges with recovering our water. 499 00:45:55,050 --> 00:46:01,270 for this year, if next year is dry, we are currently working with DWR and SAP contractors as well 500 00:46:01,270 --> 00:46:07,230 on planning for the worst, which would be a reverse flow project. If we need it, the signs are 501 00:46:07,230 --> 00:46:12,390 pointing to, we hopefully won't need it, but we are working to plan for that just in case. 502 00:46:16,070 --> 00:46:27,370 On on sites, the main and three to the current public board. Can you tell us why you think we're 503 00:46:27,370 --> 00:46:34,930 So we've been working with the operations office at DWR, looking at the storage in the system, 504 00:46:35,130 --> 00:46:42,550 the supplies that they have, and directly from the operations office all the way up the chain 505 00:46:42,550 --> 00:46:50,070 there at DWR, they've conveyed to us that they're not expecting challenges based on the supplies they 506 00:46:50,070 --> 00:46:55,730 have in storage. They are telling us however to obviously plan for the worst nothing is certain in 507 00:46:55,730 --> 00:47:01,890 California water. So we're planning on having that in place. One way or the other, at least having a project shelf ready. 508 00:47:04,690 --> 00:47:11,670 That's kind of the short of it is that from what we're hearing from the operations offices, they're not anticipating any any issues. 509 00:47:11,710 --> 00:47:20,130 However, if there is, that potentially would be later in the year. And so to have a project in place in preparation for the end of the year would be a competent decision. 510 00:47:20,130 --> 00:47:25,930 Yeah, and Andrew, I could add on to that we had recently had a meeting with DWR operators 511 00:47:25,930 --> 00:47:32,290 and some of their executive staff and they were observing that next year they will likely 512 00:47:32,290 --> 00:47:39,230 be public health and safety water pumped at banks and if that's the case or semi-traffic 513 00:47:39,230 --> 00:47:45,790 withdrawals will fall into the category of public health and safety withdrawals so they will 514 00:47:45,790 --> 00:47:51,370 be able to pump that water as long as they're able to physically pump from banks. 515 00:47:52,370 --> 00:47:59,070 They indicated that if, you know, if salinity is such that they have to stop pumping, 516 00:47:59,310 --> 00:48:04,690 not because of regulations or anything like that, but they, it's so dry in the fall next year 517 00:48:04,690 --> 00:48:10,150 that they cannot pump, then that's where we would need the reverse flow project. And they're anticipating 518 00:48:11,110 --> 00:48:16,250 If it turns out to be the case, we may need it for three to four months. 519 00:48:17,610 --> 00:48:21,190 They don't anticipate that that would happen until the fall. 520 00:48:21,490 --> 00:48:25,690 Of course, it depends on hydrology and the probability is quite low. 521 00:48:26,350 --> 00:48:31,210 It's never been the case historically that Banks has been shut off for that long. 522 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,260 Well, seems to me before we do this very expensive bad for the environment, 523 00:48:39,260 --> 00:48:41,880 because of all the diesel generated reverse flow, 524 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:46,300 we should be out there purchasing people's water supplies 525 00:48:46,300 --> 00:48:52,620 that they decide not to plant either in the exchange 526 00:48:52,620 --> 00:48:54,640 contractors, place near us. 527 00:48:54,820 --> 00:48:57,500 I think that has to be the absolute last resort. 528 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,340 Right, we're moving forward with the design 529 00:49:02,340 --> 00:49:06,700 so that we can have it available, shelf ready, in case we need 530 00:49:06,700 --> 00:49:09,160 to go there, but definitely it's the last resort. 531 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:18,380 So, who is spending the effort to go by north, south of Delta, but north of or water in San Luis? 532 00:49:18,980 --> 00:49:20,620 Who's doing that right now? 533 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,640 That would be our group. 534 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,160 So, tell us about it. 535 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,120 Well, it's a bit early in the year. 536 00:49:28,900 --> 00:49:35,080 Sellers are not really talking about or they don't have the mentality right now to sell water. 537 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:41,900 it's early, but I think that conversation is going to be coming up pretty quickly. We're entering 538 00:49:41,900 --> 00:49:49,380 the beginning of the next water year. Director, Borrell of Basin, your experience in the commercial 539 00:49:49,380 --> 00:49:53,800 world, don't don't people want to say, I don't want to talk right now when they're offered money, 540 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:55,920 sometimes, can you sort of mind? 541 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:57,540 Floor answers, yes. 542 00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:58,460 I don't know. 543 00:49:59,140 --> 00:49:59,680 You know what I mean? 544 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:08,040 Your experience in the commercial world, don't they don't people want to say, I don't want to talk right now and they're offered money. They sometimes can't use their mind. 545 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:25,040 Your answer is yes. You want to know what the details are beforehand, not at the moment. So I think we need to do some exploratory deeper dive of, you know, use that terminology to find out what's out there, what's available and let's start those negotiations. 546 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:25,920 Yeah. 547 00:50:26,220 --> 00:50:26,360 Wait. 548 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,840 We can definitely do that. 549 00:50:28,980 --> 00:50:33,260 Directors will absolutely, triumphantly reach out and invite a conversation. 550 00:50:34,060 --> 00:50:39,920 We know the typical sellers and rather than wait for normal timing, we'll initiate that process 551 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,720 and start convening meetings. 552 00:50:42,220 --> 00:50:45,760 Well, I think we need to be proactive and start that process from bellywaters perspectives. 553 00:50:45,940 --> 00:50:46,580 Absolutely. 554 00:50:47,100 --> 00:50:47,600 Not reactive. 555 00:50:49,020 --> 00:50:50,160 We'll start the invitations. 556 00:50:50,380 --> 00:50:51,220 We'll reach out. 557 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:07,180 quick update on sites reservoir, the amendment 3 to the current project agreement and its work plan. 558 00:51:07,420 --> 00:51:13,540 It bet that covers 36 months was approved by the Reservoir Committee and the JPA Board in September. 559 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:18,940 We're currently working on our analysis, including modeling and financial analysis, 560 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:23,000 to bring information back to this committee. Approximately, February next year, 561 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:29,260 sites pass out to that individual participants seek approval from their own boards by the end of March. 562 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:43,140 sites also received an additional 80 million in wind act funding for development design and construction of the site's reservoir project, which brings the total to roughly 104 million in total wind act funds appropriated for this project. 563 00:51:44,180 --> 00:51:50,680 So you'll hear more in February on the amendment 3 and participation so on and so forth. 564 00:51:57,170 --> 00:52:04,410 I mean, members, if there are no other questions at sites, we can move on to an update on BFC's project with Cindy Cal. 565 00:52:06,460 --> 00:52:07,740 Sure, let's hear it. 566 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,400 Okay, this is going to be pretty brief. 567 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:16,220 The final feasibility study for the system project was submitted last December. 568 00:52:16,300 --> 00:52:22,700 We reported on that previously that report presented a range of participation approaches. 569 00:52:22,700 --> 00:52:29,840 OMB requested that reclamation submit and addendum to the feasibility study that identifies a single participation approach. 570 00:52:30,460 --> 00:52:35,060 The authorities working with the Bureau and its member agencies to identify the approach. 571 00:52:36,220 --> 00:52:44,360 There are issues that need to be worked out primarily focusing on cost allocation, the split between M and I and Ag agency participation. 572 00:52:44,980 --> 00:52:48,980 There's also work that needs to be done to clarify how the project would be operated. 573 00:52:50,220 --> 00:52:56,980 recommendations targeting early 2022 for an initial cost allocation agreement for final design. 574 00:53:01,500 --> 00:53:04,680 That's pretty much my report, unless there are any additional questions. 575 00:53:09,490 --> 00:53:12,410 I don't have any, does anyone have any questions? 576 00:53:27,540 --> 00:53:29,460 All right, I don't want to go on to the next item. 577 00:53:35,780 --> 00:53:37,080 Why don't we move on to the next item? 578 00:53:44,760 --> 00:54:06,820 I'm here. Sorry. I was waiting to make sure we didn't have anybody else. I'm basically I'm starting on page 45 has been only half. What we've done throughout the year. What's going to be contained on today's meeting and following the next year. I don't think we'll meet until the end of the year. 579 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:13,540 So we need to look at what we would like to have on the agenda starting for 2022. 580 00:54:15,930 --> 00:54:20,270 I don't know, Glenn, I think we need to meet every day over Christmas, myself. 581 00:54:22,250 --> 00:54:24,710 Can't so Christmas for water. 582 00:54:27,470 --> 00:54:28,510 Okay, Scrooge. 583 00:54:29,230 --> 00:54:30,010 Bon, Bon. 584 00:54:31,050 --> 00:54:32,090 All right. 585 00:54:32,190 --> 00:54:36,130 As of today, I think we fulfilled all of the items that we need. 586 00:54:36,130 --> 00:54:43,950 I heard some items coming back within their future in February, I don't know if there's any 587 00:54:43,950 --> 00:54:51,870 people to take a or anything coming up in January. So I just stand open to director Kremlin 588 00:54:51,870 --> 00:54:58,730 and to the other committee members and also to the director staff is to what would be on the agenda. 589 00:54:59,250 --> 00:54:59,970 And if they want to work. 590 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,240 We had a meeting recently with the Pacheco-Bass Water District. 591 00:55:07,150 --> 00:55:14,570 During the was a meeting last night, we were not in attendance. They are still talking about their structure and what to do with the still way. 592 00:55:14,890 --> 00:55:26,350 So we are in contact with them on a regular basis. If you'd like to pursue a joint session that has started meeting in person, mass required of course, prior to this it had been only in virtual. 593 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:29,740 Did we have anyone there? 594 00:55:31,820 --> 00:55:40,160 I thought where our direction was always at one person there in case, you know, they're changing their mind or they want to name it after you or something. 595 00:55:43,420 --> 00:55:49,180 I would probably be good suggestion if you don't mind that they are join us on the tour. 596 00:55:49,900 --> 00:55:50,680 Great idea. 597 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,740 We can be chosen for that. 598 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,900 I like the idea of how to count fire tickets there too. 599 00:56:01,900 --> 00:56:10,780 Yeah, they could join us. Thank you because there's a lot of fighter issues in that area and and we know what's been happening in our state and Mr. Chair 600 00:56:10,780 --> 00:56:16,800 We never know that with a calfara, we can end up getting a grant or be helpful in any kind of way. 601 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,020 I heard they might have money especially in the area. 602 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:21,040 That's my point. 603 00:56:21,260 --> 00:56:21,700 Yeah. 604 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:26,920 They're going to get money because the four fighters cannot continue. We ain't going to have a state map. 605 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:27,900 Mm-hmm. 606 00:56:27,900 --> 00:56:35,240 I continue. All right. I guess this meeting is adjourned unless we hear anything else. 607 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:36,580 Well, come in, Mr. Chair. 608 00:56:38,020 --> 00:56:43,400 I want people to sit back and remember, I could be what five years ago, whatever it may be. 609 00:56:44,660 --> 00:56:49,900 But the director of a row of myself, we played a role in our chair, brought people together from 610 00:56:50,660 --> 00:56:56,980 Sabanito and Pacheco water district and they had a damn up there that the spill wasn't working it was going nowhere 611 00:56:56,980 --> 00:57:04,200 So just thinking about where we were then and Mr. Chair. I want to say thank you because you brought the energy and the passion 612 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:08,060 We built relationships up that we're at the day, so I'm excited 613 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:15,940 Well, thank you for saying that, but I'm following what you've actually told me since I got on this board 614 00:57:15,940 --> 00:57:23,220 Which is it is about relationships and we were in a place where we didn't had that many external relationships 615 00:57:23,220 --> 00:57:31,840 Who are in an incredibly focused so I think this is all a really good thing. So we got a lot of work to do. Let's all work together on this 616 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:34,640 Well stated 617 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:37,160 nicely done 618 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:41,780 All right, meeting adjourned. Yeah, thank you. Well, no, thank you 619 00:57:41,780 --> 00:57:42,400 Right, right. 620 00:57:42,980 --> 00:57:43,820 Yeah. 621 00:57:44,420 --> 00:57:44,440 Yeah.