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2019, Board of Surveys meeting and asked the clerk to call a roll.

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Good morning. Supervisor Leopold.

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Here, friend.

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Capit.

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A person?

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And chair, community.

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Thank you.

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And I'm going to ask you to join me in a moment of silence in the pledge of allegiance.

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Sposios, do we have any late additions or additions or deletions to the agenda?

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Yes, we have a couple.

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On the regular agenda item 10, there's a revised attachment, a page 151.

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On regular agenda item 11, there's a revised detachment A, packet page 185.

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On the consent agenda item 66, there's a correction, the item should read approve amendments

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to two contracts for tenant-based rental assistance services housing authority to increase

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by $60,000 for a total of 181,875.

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on item 69, there's a revised attachment, packet page, 1159.

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Thank you.

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Great, thank you.

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And now I'm going to ask my fellow board members if they have any items they'd like to pull from today's agenda.

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Yeah, I'm going to pull 663.

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So that is for the public.

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That's the approve and allocation of $3.5 million in low and moderate income.

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housing asset funds, sorts of purchase of APNO-48-221-09 by midpin housing and authorized

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the planning director to negotiate a funnel for the housing agreement.

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Okay, so we will make that item, like 20.1, it'll be heard this afternoon.

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If anyone is here for that item, and would like to speak to that item, you're welcome to do so during public comment if you can't come back for that item.

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Does anyone else have anything like to like the poll?

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Okay.

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Seeing none, let's move on to public comment.

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This is an opportunity for members of public to speak to us about a couple different things.

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First, they can speak to us about items that are not on our agenda today but are within the

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purview of the Board of Supervisors. That's public comment. Second, they can speak to us

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about items that are on the consent agenda. Third, you can speak to us about items that are on

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our closed session agenda. Or, for if you can't stay, because you have to get to work or you have

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another obligation and you want to speak to us about one of our regular item agendas. You can speak

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to us now but you won't be able to speak to us when that item comes up. I'd ask if you're interested

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and speaking to us during this part, it's a police stand up and get in a line and we'll

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have you come forward and talk.

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I know whether I should say you're honors or whatever, but I just wanted to make a brief

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statement about plastic.

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The item before you today isn't the last item you'll see about plastic.

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I don't want to preach to you about information that's fairly widely available to film

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blue, there are many other sources, it's everywhere, it's not just a surface, it's a 3000 feet,

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we already just proven that and it's all over.

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If we don't start asking grocery stores and other places to replace the plastic with other

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devices, we won't get in there and it will still show up on our shores and it will be ugly

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and so forth.

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So, and the fish will die, and I just don't want to go into all the information.

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It's readily available.

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All I want to say is, it's very important.

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You can do something about it.

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I've heard that there is a grocery chain for instance in England that's already done

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without plastic.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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My name is Tony Crane representing a group in Apthos, California, in Objection to the Second

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Story Program.

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It has come to our attention that County Council has requested that you not speak to our

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community too to the threat of a lawsuit.

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We have not made any such explicit threats.

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If we had in the beginning of this debacle two years ago, or you have misinterpreted

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anything, we have said recently, you can just regard that thought.

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That burden of fixing a problem you created should not be put on the fixed income retirees

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and young families in our community.

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If we thought our best action was to file a civil lawsuit, we would have done that a long

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time ago.

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In fact, we believe it is not necessary.

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We have not been collecting evidence for a lawsuit on just doing your job for you.

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You have sworn to uphold the law and I don't believe you are doing so.

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In lieu of a civil action, I have simply reported the crimes that we believe have occurred

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and that I have represented to you in the last several meetings and I have given that

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information to the district attorney.

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I've been presenting the evidence we possess in meetings to you two minutes at a time

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move any chance of plausible deniability. These are extremely serious issues that you have

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just regarded. I assume at the recommendation of County Council. In my estimation, they have

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made several errors along the way, including one email in which it appears that a member of County

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Council intentionally provided misleading information to the zoning department in the midst of

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So, let me be clear, we have not and do not intend to file a lawsuit against the county at this time. I stand here before you simply as a witness to and have credible evidence of acts by county and encompass employees that I believe amount to crimes against the taxpayers of California and especially the citizens of Santa Cruz County.

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So any directive from County Council not to communicate with a witness to a reported crime would be unwarranted and possibly obstructive.

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Thank you.

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Good morning.

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Supervisors.

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Mr. Plasios.

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My name is Mike McConnell.

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I'm the Division Director for Adult Services for the Human Services Department.

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We want to thank you for your proclamation.

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Recognizing June as elder abuse awareness months.

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I have a couple of our key partners with me.

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speak after me from the District Attorney's Office and Sheriff's Office. As a

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proclamation states, there are fewer than one in 24 reports of elder abuse and

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neglect that are actually brought to the attention of adult protective services

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are law enforcement. Last year in Santa Cruz County about 1500 reports were made

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to adult protective services, not stellar at math, but I think the actual numbers

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are probably much higher than that, and we just wanted to thank you for the proclamation,

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and also for your consistent support of programs aimed at preventing and stopping elder abuse.

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Thank you.

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Thank you for your work.

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Good morning.

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Todd Leverie.

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I'm a little bit sure of myself.

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Again, Teco, Mike, we just want to thank you very much for your proclamation and the help

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help that this does raise community awareness or this very serious crime. Thank you very much.

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Jeff Rosell District Attorney, I just wanted to say that elder abuse is something that we deal with

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on a daily basis, Ed Brown, who will you'll hear a few words from to my left deals with it in our office along with several other attorneys.

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And we just want to thank you for the support that we feel and that the citizens of our

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community feel and you have a commitment as you always have from the DA's office to provide

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education to assist in investigation and the prosecution of these cases.

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This is just want to thank you very much.

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I'm Ed Brown and when the prosecutors that prosecutes these cases, I want to thank the board

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for the proclamation.

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I also thank the community for the information we get, the banks, the neighbors, the stores

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to bring the information to us at let us prosecute these cases.

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Thank you for your important work.

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It's critically important that we have a great team that helps us protect seniors from abuse

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and I appreciate all the different departments that provide that service.

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Dagmar, like we on, Liz Alvabeech.

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I'm here because I support the ban on the sale of plastic models.

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Mr. Leopold, I heard you last Friday on KZSU's book Shweckers.

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Thank you for taking my call or my text on the air.

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I understand you support the ban on the sale of plastic bottles,

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but that you need more community conversation.

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So here we are.

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And just a few facts to set the stage.

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You may already this might not be new information for any of you,

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but I find these facts,

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particularly startling.

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12 million tons of plastic is dumped in the ocean every year.

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Of the five top pieces that are found on beaches, plastic bottles exist in the top five.

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Every minute, one million plastic bottles are sold throughout the world.

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And the most frightening of all statistics that I've come across recently is that by 2050,

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that is in 30 years.

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If any of you have children in elementary school, they'll be 30 or 40 years old starting their family.

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And guess what?

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There's going to be more plastic in the ocean than fish.

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So, I have a question both for the board and for the audience.

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I'd like to see a show of hands who supports the ban on the sale of plastic bottles.

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And my second question for the board is what are the action items that the board is looking at.

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This is start with a county-wide ban, first of all in the county buildings and events, and then

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for, for their own.

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Thank you.

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Oh, and just let you know, in my three minutes, that was three million plastic bottles that

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were sold.

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Thank you.

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Those two minutes.

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Yeah, heading to both, and normally it's three.

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Star's enter, please.

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Thank you.

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Good morning.

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That was startling.

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My name is Bob Morgan.

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And I'll just follow up on what the lady said regarding plastics and looking forward to

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your August 6th on plastic reductions proposals that are being proposed by the county

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to come to you to review.

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I also want to say thank you for offering the Association of Counties Challenge Awards,

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recognizing different departments in the county, and in particular I want to recommend

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in zero waste headed by Tim Guncheroff as a very good recipient of that county challenge

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award, and I wish zero waste team good luck.

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I also want to comment on the approved contract for Dudek to begin the EAR process for

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the Sustainable Plan.

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I'm representing Sustainable Sokel, and thanking you for beginning that process, that contractual

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agreement with Dudek. We believe in the sustainable plan. We think it is an excellent

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document and we want to thank the Board of Supervisors for beginning the EIR process

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to get this sustainable plan regulated on the books and law. Thank you very much, supervisors.

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Good morning, supervisors. I'm Helen, you and historian, the assistant director for the

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community action board and I definitely support a plastic bottle ban. But I'm here this morning,

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really too think the Homosexual Partnership, a continuum of care for recommending and hopefully

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very soon you're bored for proving on your consent agenda this morning, three Homeless

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Emergency Aid Program contracts with our agency.

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So building on cabs successful existing programming we're very excited and honored to be able

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to expand our rental assistance to avoid eviction and homelessness, programming to an

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in addition to serving additional $5.25 per year, homeless and a company at-

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With youth and young adults, in achieving their housing, employment, and educational goals, with our collaborative

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partner, county office of education. And we're very excited to launch the Watsonville Works Experience Program in

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collaboration with our partner city of Watsonville Public Works to provide work experience for homeless

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residents of Watsonville and to provide that work experience, the housing and stability

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supports. All at the same time is promoting the health safety and really the

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beautification of the city of Watsonville. So thank you so much for your confidence

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in cab and delivering this impactful programming. And we want to thank you also for

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supporting effective solutions to homelessness, equity, equity, equity throughout the

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Thanks so much.

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If you could restart that, I'd appreciate it if you got it down to two minutes, Mr. Chairman.

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Please go ahead.

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That's outrageous.

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You can building a parallel government and it's been attack on local government for a long time

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and you know it.

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The founders of the country had studied various systems of government throughout history,

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and they found that the United States is not a democracy.

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Never was and never was and intended to be.

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We just pledge allegiance to the Republic.

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I can go through Alexander Hamilton and Thomas Jefferson,

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who talks about turning into dictatorships.

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John Adams has remembered a democracy never lasts long.

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It's soon wasted itself and burgers itself, James Madison.

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It's been incompatible with personal security rights.

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It has been shortened as it has been violent and it's death.

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And, of course, we have programs throughout the county that Zack Friend and Sam Farbe

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Long, too.

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It's their hope for democracy.

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Any educated person in the United States knows democracy is evil.

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The same person that's a media consultant on there has various people at his broadcasts.

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One of them includes many Ben Doka, who is co-chairman of Leon Fennett, is California

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Forward, who wants to get rid of 80% of the governments and you know it.

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Sam Far, the speaker on here, lied on KSCO, he lied before Democratic meetings, and he lied

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before this lady here, when she was a member of the Watsonville Council, and he said he

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don't know anything about agenda 21.

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Yet he wrote the front page saying he would introduce agenda 21 throughout the area.

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Agenda 21 is anti-American.

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And it has to do with regionalism and you are guilty of that.

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You've been expanding regionalism, which is no more than Soviets.

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And I'd like my extra five minutes, Mr. Coonerty.

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No, no, for a second.

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At the same time, no thanks.

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You're amazing.

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Next speaker, please.

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Hi.

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My name is Alisa The Kiwag, and I have the privilege to be the clinical and program manager of the

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Gemma Transitional Housing Program.

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We decided to come here today because we know that reducing

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recidivism, gender-responsive programming and addiction are

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really hot topics these days, and so I brought with me here

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a woman who can speak a little more closely to what her journey

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has been like with those three items, Jessica Postler.

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Hi, I'm Jessica Postler and I am a resident at Gemma

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approaching my graduation date.

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A year ago, if you had seen me in this building, it would have been for a very different

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reason. I was lost in my addiction and I was out committing crimes to support my drug

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habit. All of that has changed and although I put in the work the Gemma House gave me

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the structure support and a safe place to work on my recovery. I felt shaming guilt for

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the way I behaved in my addiction. The weighty's at Gemma have helped me work through that and

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become a healthy member of our community. They have encouraged me to build my sober support network

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through any volunteer my time to help the less fortunate with the food not-bombs program

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and cheered me on when I interviewed for the position as a manager at a local spa.

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Jim has helped me to completely turn my life around and I know there are hundreds of women

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like me in our community that need this program and I'm here to show you that the funding

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that you have offered has really changed my life and

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can change the life of others.

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Thank you.

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Great story.

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Good morning.

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Jim Helmer, Sam Lorenzo Valley resident.

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As you enter into your budget hearings next week,

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I wanted to make a first off.

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I would like to congratulate the board and the RTC

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for the Highway 9 Complete Street Study in SLV as well

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as the passage of measure D. Highway 9 is often closed due to mudslides, trees down

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car crashes, and we have essential streets that border highway 9 that are your responsibility,

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like Bear Creek Road, Jamieson Creek, Alburode, Phelton Empire, and others. And most of

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roads are very steep, they've been carved into the sides of mountains, and in 2016 we had eight feet

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of rain fall on those roads and in 2018 we had another six feet of rain fall. Essentially it's

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critical, it's critical that our toe ditches are maintained every summer and our culverts and

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headballs are opened to provide for free flow of water. I commend our public works crews both locally

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as well as health trans for the good work they do.

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But as you enter your budget hearings,

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I would ask you, is there a possibility for new funding,

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dedicated funding for summer time, the tow ditch cleaning,

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not only in the SLV area, but certainly in the so-called

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hills in the core leadous Watsonville area.

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The last point I'd like to make is the San Lorenzo Valley,

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or the Bin Loman Park, for years it was a great,

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tourist attraction and swimming venue and all I ask on these hot summer days is

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our way we could open up the river again for our feet and our dogs and for just

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generally cooling down. Thank you.

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Hi, my name is Mimi Snowden and I'm here to talk to you just briefly about the cannabis

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ordinance, I spoke last week, I have been very negatively impacted by growing around me.

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And I would just hope and self my neighbors.

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So I would just hope that if you are planning on giving permits for cannabis growing, that

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you would allow people that border the agricultural properties that have residences or residential

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property, they need to be notified.

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Not being notified is really not okay.

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there are other issues that occur with cannabis growing that make life very difficult for a lot of us.

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The smell, the generators, the pesticides, possibly, the lack of knowledge on some of the cannabis growers. We had a grow next to us illegally last year. We were told it was legal. They left their trash. They lived in trailers. It's really not the kind of environment if you purchased your very valuable home and someone set up all around you that you probably want. But if you were going to get it, you would probably want some kind of notification before they were granted a permit.

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So I would ask that you consider that when you decide to pass that amendment.

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Good morning.

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Supervisors.

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Katherine today would save our shores.

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I have to imagine you saw the front page news yesterday regarding the study the Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute published.

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Late last week about the extent of plastic pollution really crisis in our beloved Monterey Bay.

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It states among other stunning facts that in parts of the bay there are more swirling microplastics than in the great Pacific garbage patch.

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The study makes our local need to mitigate plastics very weak real.

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We are not talking about a non-visible, non-measurable, much-hyped way offshore phenomenon.

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This is, we are talking about the reality in our sanctuary.

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Santa Cruz and Save Our Choice has been at the forefront of the fight to stop offshore oil and gas.

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exploration and drilling in the establishment of our National Marine Sanctuary.

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We, therefore, cannot sit back idling and allow the Sanctuary our community work

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so hard to establish and protect from fossil fuel.

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Now, be polluted by one of the most ubiquitous fossil fuel products, plastics.

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The irony is tragic.

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Don't let this community down when action is most urgent.

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You signaled interest in taking bold action back in February when you passed a director of requiring the DPW to bring you recommendations regarding plastic pollution mitigation upon which you could act.

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We know we received the recommendations and we know they were broad and reflected the input of your commission on the environment and other agencies and organizations with which you instructed BTW to consult.

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We also know action has been delayed for May to June, and now until August, please don't let

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these delays to act continue.

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Nothing less than our marine environment, our sea life, our human health, and climate change

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mitigation is at stake.

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We continue to have faith in you.

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Please act.

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Thank you very much.

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Good morning.

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My name is Ali.

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I'm speaking on behalf of Sir Frider Santa Cruz, but also on behalf of the Monterey Bay, which

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doesn't have a voice. Millions of secretures that cannot touch you. I am also here in support

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of limiting our plastic production in Santa Cruz and what we allow to sell. I'm told that

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we're looking for more community support and I'm actually excited about that because I know

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this community and I know that we can pull people together and prove to you that this is what we

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want. We're a very tourist tourism driven place and to me I see the excitement of people coming

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here and seeing a different city as city that's ahead of everywhere else and a city that

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educates them on issues like this. I'm very confident that we're going to pull the community

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together so I'm really hopeful that you guys will also listen to us and make things happen

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because that's where the power is. We've always been really ahead of the rest of the country

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and the rest of the world and we're starting to kind of fall behind. The things that we want

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might seem radical but they're not, they're the way of the future. The world is heading toward

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living plastic production and we can be a really major part of that and we should be because

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of where we live. Thank you.

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Good morning to our community and board members. My name is Ashley

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Blake O. Draker. I'm with O. Sienna. I'd first like to thank you again for your November action

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to prohibit single-use plastic toiletry bottles in exchange for reusable options as well as the

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as expressed by others, hopefully that initiative will go county wide.

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In the light of the studies that were just shared conducted in Monterey Bay, it's clearer

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than ever that microplastics are a pervasive problem.

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They're in the bellies of the tiniest plankton to the largest whales and they're literally

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contaminating our waterways that are that we breathe and our own health.

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And recognizing that you had previously taxed the Department of Public Works with coming up with a range of recommendations for some priority single use plastic products, but that those recommendations have not yet been agendized for presentation and discussion at a public meeting yet, respectfully request echoing the comments of others, that those recommendations.

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receive a presentation and the opportunity for your thoughts and comments from the public at

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your first available meeting in August. I also wanted to mention it's my understanding that you

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have already supported two pieces of legislation SB 54 and AB 1080 that are making their way

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through the capital. So I want to thank you for supporting those bills and it's she and is

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will begin to set some high standards for single-use plastic policies in the state, and hopefully

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that will inspire action nationwide.

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But given that Santa Cruz County has a tremendous environmental legacy, we believe that

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you shouldn't be holding off to see what happens with that legislation, hopefully continue

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to support it, but also continue to move forward with taking action on other single-use products

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care that are pervasive in our county for the benefit of wildlife, human health, and our economy

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as well.

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Thank you very much.

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Good morning.

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My name is Becky Steinburner, I'm a resident of rural Aptos.

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I sent your board a communication light last night asking you to pull three items from the

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consent agenda.

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Number 43, you must pull because if you don't, you will be violating state law on the

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Brown Act by not publicly discussing Mr. Policios pay increase.

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to any of you planned to pull this.

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All right, is he no action?

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And I'm quite appalled that County Council will allow this to occur, but you will be violating the Brown Act by passing this and consent agenda.

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It is not public discussion.

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So I will move along and is quite a good transition into what I'd like to talk with you about.

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And that is your policy that you adopted almost a year ago.

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We're in members of the public, can no longer pull consent agenda items that they feel merit

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better public discussion.

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We are beholding to you to do it for us.

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I have written your board on many occasions.

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I have written individual supervisors on many occasions.

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The answer has always been no with one exception from supervisor capit.

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This began with his recommendations from Mr.

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Palacio to reduce public.

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I'm in and make board meetings run more efficiently. In March of last year, there was a subcommittee

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that included some of you. Supervisor Kennedy and Supervisor McPherson, along with county council,

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that group met again in May and Mr. Palacio came up with recommendations. Your board adopted

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those recommendations with the addition. Thank you, Supervisor Leopold, for asking that there

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be a report back to your board in six months on the effectiveness of them that reports

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never come. I have filed five public records act requests to get information, and I just

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want to point out reading from one in an email from Rachel Dan, a supervisor, co-inities,

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an analyst, two Mr. Co-inities, commenting, I guess if we're solely thinking of Becky,

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then sure it might save some time, and maybe Zack will decline to request a poll items. I

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think we should think about the other fact that the frequent flyers that staff is trying

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to quail or women, Marilyn and Becky, primarily.

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And this is an all-male board.

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The optics aren't great.

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I'm so not just so sure that these changes

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will make much of a positive difference

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and may just generate a negative perception.

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Thank you.

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So what I read was just this.

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Right, so I'm starting to write here.

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Hi, my name is Rachel Spalding,

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and I'm just picking out from where Becky left off,

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I'm going to start at the beginning of the email from Rachel Dan to Ryan Cunity.

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Recommended action number three makes it seem like staff can change the policies and procedures

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with regard to board meetings without board approval.

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This can't be right, but I would like to ask about it.

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If this is the case, then I think that recommendation should be removed.

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It's ordered in a way that makes the direction difficult to understand.

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Number two recommendation says, approve attached policies and procedures changes.

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But we don't see the attachment, if it's adopting the Rosenberg rules, that's one thing, and I don't see a big issue with that.

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But if there are additional recommended rules, changes, then I think we should know what staff will be recommending before we put this out there.

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I'm a little uncomfortable that they are putting your name on this, though they are careful not to attribute the recommendations to your Bruce.

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In general, I guess this is okay, depending on the specifics, but I wonder about unintended consequences

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that we aren't thinking of that maybe cause this change to be more troubled than it's worth.

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For example, they are pushing this issue of not letting the public pull items and instead making

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the public go through the board member.

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Board members are then in the position of having to triage consent item request and be the

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one to make people unhappy if we say no.

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I'm not sure board members will say no, so what is the benefit in the end except making it look like we are less accessible to the public.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Good morning.

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My name is Edgar Ross, I'm from Scotts Valley.

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I'm a guided-moderate-bay aquarium.

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It does sit at Henry Cow.

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I collected this and some more stuff that wouldn't fit on the trade.

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In the 20 minutes that took me to walk from the end of Highway 17 to here on Ocean Boulevard.

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There's lots of stuff here, lots of straws, as you probably guess, paper cuffs are not

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actually paper, they include a plastic liner that's how the coffee doesn't melt through

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and come into your lap when you're driving.

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These things were reworked and maybe 40 years ago, they didn't like the pollution of these things

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they thought that if they created a version that would break up in the little pieces, it would

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be better. But with a realized, is it the little pieces that are still plastic, there's

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still non-digestable by anything? And it's a little fish that get eaten by bigger fishes

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that eat the little stuff. This stuff that we can't even see. And I'll remove this because it

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I would like to thank you.

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Any members?

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It's hard breaking for me to bring this back up again on the 26th

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for the consent agenda, the bending of tobacco flavors.

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I am an ex-smoker at the same time, so I quit smoking myself.

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And I think it's a choice we make.

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But it breaks my heart as well to see all this business going to the internet

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sales and to other counties that other people benefit from.

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And as of today, I might lose one of my businesses and

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which has been there for 10 years, plus and I've always done the right things, follow the rules, and I've ran a clean tobacco shop, not a smoke shop.

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So please reconsider this if you can, begin to choose and ask the CHP's and the police departments on who runs the best clean shop.

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Please consider it. Thank you.

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Maryland Garrett I think coming here almost 20 years since I retired from teaching and are

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purpose and speaking as to advocate for public health, the well-being, the community community

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quality of life here. How try to bring forth facts on adverse policies and impacts from

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development and corporate policy. I've been focused on wireless technology. Your obligation,

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why we have government, is to protect the public and the community well-being. But what are

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you doing instead supporting big development, corporate interests? And you don't want to hear

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from the public, why are you here, if you don't want to hear

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or public input, and take it into consideration,

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and adjust your policies accordingly.

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Your censorship of the consent agenda items is outrageous.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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I've watched a Nevada County Board of Superbizers meeting the other day.

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What a contrast of listening to the public.

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There was an appeal case of a cell tower.

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The appellant has 30 minutes, so did AT&T.

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need to go back to the other policy and Ryan, you did this when you were on the Santa

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Cruz City Council two minutes for everyone. There's a lot of assault or demeaning of women

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demeaning of whistleblowers in this country and we need more people to speak out and give you

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direction and then public ensures. Thank you.

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Good morning, members of the board. My name is

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Senator Estadia, I'm an organizer with Copa and I'm here representing thousands of families

454
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,960
that are part of Copa from our eight.

455
00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:44,240
I'm here to speak on item number 63 that was pulled for this afternoon. All across the county, I've been hearing numerous stories about congregations shrinking, because of the affordable housing crisis.

456
00:37:45,660 --> 00:37:55,980
Families overcrowding up to four or five families and one household teachers that are not able to afford to live in this county because of the housing crisis.

457
00:37:55,980 --> 00:38:01,380
We're here to support this allocation of funding because we believe this is part of the solution

458
00:38:01,380 --> 00:38:04,180
to start addressing the affordable housing needs.

459
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:11,340
We support this allocation of funding that item number 63 allows and that we hope that this afternoon you do so as well.

460
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:12,180
Thank you.

461
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:22,520
Good morning, gentlemen.

462
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:30,940
Stony Brook, and I'm here on behalf of your veterans, Lea as on to our Human Services Commission.

463
00:38:30,940 --> 00:38:36,580
I want to mention that on Thursday June 6th, the 75th anniversary of DDA, the Allied

464
00:38:36,580 --> 00:38:40,140
invasion of Europe to liberate world from Nazi domination.

465
00:38:41,300 --> 00:38:49,020
156,000 troops, 6,000 vessels, and 11,500 aircraft participated in the largest amphibious

466
00:38:49,020 --> 00:38:50,300
assault in history.

467
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,920
Although the war in Europe continued for another 11 months this marked the beginning

468
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,760
of the end of World War II.

469
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:03,700
On that single day, Santa Cruz County lost one of our sons on D.D. Army Sergeant Carl

470
00:39:03,700 --> 00:39:09,520
N. Riggs, H.24, and a graduate of Watsonville High School. He was a paratrooper and

471
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:15,120
easy company, 566 Parasute Regiment, 100, and 1st Airborne. His infantry squad company

472
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:20,620
commended for Sergeant Robert, a twin-engine C.47 in route to England from their drop zone.

473
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:26,220
The plane was damaged by an aircraft fire over Normandy and crash in the lost of all 22 soldiers

474
00:39:26,220 --> 00:39:26,880
and crew.

475
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:34,020
Overall, Santa Cruz County lost 97 residents in World War II and combat and other

476
00:39:34,020 --> 00:39:39,000
causes and hundreds more were wounded or traumatized. And we consider the county population

477
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:46,040
of that time was approximately 47,000 people for the whole county. That loss must have had

478
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:55,740
a tremendous impact on our community. Please remember to honor the sacrifices of these

479
00:40:02,180 --> 00:40:07,840
If I can get that name of the Watsonville High School, I'd like to make sure it's names

480
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,060
on that memorial in front of the Watsonville High School.

481
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,320
You could submit it here, and then I'll get it.

482
00:40:16,350 --> 00:40:17,210
Thank you.

483
00:40:17,570 --> 00:40:17,930
Next speaker.

484
00:40:21,820 --> 00:40:22,340
Good morning, Board.

485
00:40:22,380 --> 00:40:23,780
My name is Rafael Edmundis.

486
00:40:23,900 --> 00:40:25,740
I'm with the Monterey Bay Economic Partnership.

487
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:33,020
I just wanted to make a couple of comments on the allocation to mid-Pen.

488
00:40:33,020 --> 00:40:38,560
As you may know, Monterey-Bacon, my partnership works on different initiatives.

489
00:40:39,420 --> 00:40:47,300
I'm working the housing initiative, which supports housing at all different levels, close

490
00:40:47,300 --> 00:40:52,700
to transit, close to services and work to prevent sprawl.

491
00:40:52,700 --> 00:41:01,820
I don't need to elaborate on the housing context in which we all work and operate in and

492
00:41:01,820 --> 00:41:11,400
which you make decisions in, I just wanted to say the given that we want to use every tool

493
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:22,520
available and have every opportunity to work toward the issue that is central to almost

494
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:23,320
all issues.

495
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:52,420
We think about health care, education, workforce development, housing impacts, I used to be a teacher and I worked with housing because I realized whether I wanted to or not I had to deal with housing because before I stood, wakes up to go to school, she wakes up in the housing situation before an employer, an employee wakes up to work, same thing to housing situations there and that impacts

496
00:41:53,260 --> 00:41:57,000
outcomes and packs, the economy, et cetera, et cetera.

497
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:02,800
So I just wanted to say, given that context and given what we know and hear all the time

498
00:42:03,420 --> 00:42:10,460
about the housing situation, I just want to say let's make sure we have every tool available,

499
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:18,620
every opportunity to deal with this situation that impacts us on all levels whether we are aware

500
00:42:18,620 --> 00:42:19,420
of it or not.

501
00:42:19,820 --> 00:42:20,400
Thank you very much.

502
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:21,600
Thank you.

503
00:42:25,630 --> 00:42:25,650
Thank you.

504
00:42:25,650 --> 00:42:26,490
Let's be our final speaker.

505
00:42:29,420 --> 00:42:30,380
I have anything to talk about.

506
00:42:32,380 --> 00:42:33,520
You know, it's very disrespectful.

507
00:42:34,540 --> 00:42:37,040
This is my victory hat from the threat from down below.

508
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:41,400
People that are coming down from below, right, in the political system, just a corruption.

509
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,300
There, you're imposing our barrier to sure, we're all, I want to be able to remind

510
00:42:45,300 --> 00:42:48,140
California residents, man, we're good Americans.

511
00:42:48,260 --> 00:42:49,580
This is a constitutional republic.

512
00:42:49,700 --> 00:42:54,080
You need to respect our brown right, right, right, and restore it.

513
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:54,600
This is shameful.

514
00:42:54,600 --> 00:43:01,540
We might as well just get rid of the county board of cigarettes because you guys did the do nothing, right, and let Carlos Plaza exert him will save money.

515
00:43:02,300 --> 00:43:05,520
Because he's imposing all this arbitrary ruin. You guys are following his guidance.

516
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:11,060
You know the American public, we, hey, this sounds scripted reality that people are watching my activism.

517
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,260
I want to be able to share members of the public. We had a victory today, the American public.

518
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:23,680
I took on the whole establishment in Santa Clara County on EBT, a being oppressed by the whole system, the whole corruption, and I prevailed.

519
00:43:25,260 --> 00:43:25,660
election.

520
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,500
Code allows for members of the public to come up in here and to engage in VMM protests.

521
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,700
We have a right to bring our political props into the challenge of the system and to keep

522
00:43:33,700 --> 00:43:34,440
it accountable.

523
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:39,740
Listen, I'm not embarrassed of my humanity, I'm not embarrassed of my humanity because

524
00:43:39,740 --> 00:43:43,100
you guys want to sit here and pose this arbitrary rule and totally disrespect the

525
00:43:43,100 --> 00:43:43,760
American public.

526
00:43:43,980 --> 00:43:44,940
I find it very shameful.

527
00:43:46,740 --> 00:43:50,260
I had good things to say, but it's very shameful.

528
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,440
I want to be able to share members of the public that we have a new heavy weight

529
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,140
Mexican champion, and I'm proud of that.

530
00:43:57,340 --> 00:44:01,340
I've been American-born Mexican, and I won my victory as an American,

531
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:03,860
and then respecting my constitutional rights,

532
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,140
and I want to be able to tell people that, you know,

533
00:44:06,140 --> 00:44:10,440
I'm trying to get back home, because I'm in political exile, right?

534
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,780
And I'm wearing this hat, I remember the public about this,

535
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:14,900
after one of my activists, friends about this,

536
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,880
so I can sport it, and I appreciate that.

537
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,520
I appreciate the members of the public's prayers, emails,

538
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:27,080
a support in helping me out. I appreciate Gary Arnold looking out for me. He's a good man.

539
00:44:27,660 --> 00:44:32,520
Thank you. Thank you. That concludes of a comment. I'm going to bring it back to the board.

540
00:44:32,700 --> 00:44:37,420
Unless there's anyone else who was waiting to speak. Okay. I'll bring it back to the board for

541
00:44:37,420 --> 00:44:42,900
action on the consent agenda. These are items 22 through 91 with the exception of 63.

542
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,420
And I'll ask four members if they have any comments. Supervisor Friend.

543
00:44:48,490 --> 00:44:49,330
Thank you, Chair. Good morning.

544
00:44:50,270 --> 00:44:59,970
Just a couple of things I appreciated the work that the Parks Commission did in regarding to the parking lot work and that we're going to be seeing that item through on item 35 on item 35 on item.

545
00:45:02,140 --> 00:45:10,140
It's nice to see this sustainable plan going forward. Hopefully this process will move and a more expedited fashion moving forward.

546
00:45:14,420 --> 00:45:30,280
I know the

547
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,180
to stand top of this storm damage even with some of the changes at the federal level, to

548
00:45:34,180 --> 00:45:37,820
know that we're moving forward to what we can do, especially out on tropical, to a mean

549
00:45:37,820 --> 00:45:41,400
a lot for the residents that live in the rural areas.

550
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:47,080
Lastly, on Adam 87, I know this is a deferral regarding the shared mobility of new

551
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:47,380
abilities.

552
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:53,280
The service just to continue to express our concerns about scooters, which I know are currently

553
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:57,720
banned within county code, but I think that it should maintain explicit that way.

554
00:45:57,720 --> 00:46:01,920
I think that a lot of the communities that have these shared mobility services, specifically

555
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,180
the scooters, have a lot of safety issues, a lot of kids are getting hurt.

556
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,920
And I have concerns with other communities that have done it.

557
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,760
I don't think that that's something that we should allow here, so when that comes back

558
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,960
in August, I'll be looking for that explicit ban on that regard.

559
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:15,700
Thank you.

560
00:46:15,720 --> 00:46:16,000
Thank you.

561
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:16,620
Supervisor Leopold.

562
00:46:17,420 --> 00:46:18,180
Thank you, Chair.

563
00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:18,740
Good morning.

564
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,540
There are a number of items here on the consent agenda.

565
00:46:22,720 --> 00:46:24,440
I won't comment on all of them.

566
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:36,580
I'll comment on a few of them that I feel are important on item number 34, which is the report on the preliminary recommendations from the Justice and Gender Task Force.

567
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:42,520
I appreciate the work of our County Administrative Office on going with the Task Force.

568
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:53,940
I think as we heard from the testimony this morning during oral communication that providing safe housing for women who are coming out of jail,

569
00:46:53,940 --> 00:46:56,580
can really make a difference and turn around people's lives.

570
00:46:56,900 --> 00:47:03,640
And so we need to continue to work on this issue to have these options if we want to

571
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,720
lower recidivism and be a safer community.

572
00:47:09,340 --> 00:47:16,880
On item number 35, this is the issue of the parking lot and the Parks Commission, I was

573
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,580
glad to see that the Parks Commission was able to weigh in on this.

574
00:47:19,580 --> 00:47:28,020
I think they came up with a reasoned set of recommendations on glad that it's something that

575
00:47:28,020 --> 00:47:33,800
we can do and meets a lot of different needs, which is providing more space for people

576
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:39,780
here, as we've heard from previous testimony, but also making sure that there is some ongoing

577
00:47:39,780 --> 00:47:45,120
support for our parks department, which is always a need of resources and is very valued

578
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,240
by members of the community.

579
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,340
On item number 41, I appreciate the work that my colleagues,

580
00:47:52,860 --> 00:47:56,820
supervisor Cooody and McPherson did to work with the city of Santa Cruz

581
00:47:56,820 --> 00:48:01,720
on our UC Santa Cruz growth plans response.

582
00:48:02,380 --> 00:48:07,460
I think it's very important that when we look at impacts both on campus

583
00:48:07,460 --> 00:48:12,700
and off campus that those off campus impacts also include

584
00:48:12,700 --> 00:48:14,400
in the unincorporated area.

585
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:22,120
In Live Oak, we have seen an increasing number of students who live there and you can always tell

586
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:29,020
when the school year is over because the mattresses come out and everything else, but the impact

587
00:48:29,020 --> 00:48:34,440
of university growth is not just a city issue, it's a county issue and I just want to make sure

588
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:40,860
in the work that goes on. I like the idea of hiring someone to help do the organizing around

589
00:48:40,860 --> 00:48:43,740
And I think that's critical when I appreciate the work by my colleagues.

590
00:48:46,300 --> 00:48:54,500
On item number 58, which is resolution approving a grand application to the state, I want

591
00:48:54,500 --> 00:48:55,680
to thank the Parks Department.

592
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:02,420
The Farm Park is a park that was promised to the community over 20 years ago.

593
00:49:02,700 --> 00:49:07,940
We've been working very hard to build all the pieces of that park.

594
00:49:07,940 --> 00:49:12,760
I know the Parks Department is very committed to that, and I think that with the investment

595
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:17,960
that we've made with the community is made, that it should be a very attractive grant application,

596
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:23,820
and I have high hopes for success and given the recent success at the Parks Department is having grants,

597
00:49:25,740 --> 00:49:27,380
I have cautiously optimistic.

598
00:49:29,020 --> 00:49:35,060
On item number 62 and 63, I would just point out that these are two important items,

599
00:49:35,060 --> 00:49:46,200
or not 62 and 62 and 65, these are two very important items, items, in which we know

600
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:51,520
that there's going to be a lot of input from the public.

601
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,000
They both involve the planning department.

602
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:59,060
One is around our public safety and hazard management general plan.

603
00:49:59,060 --> 00:50:05,180
amendments and one about the study session on what's going to be going into the EIR for

604
00:50:05,180 --> 00:50:11,320
the sustainability update. If we're going to be successful in looking at both these

605
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:17,060
issues, it's going to be important for us to think about our agenda on the 24th to make

606
00:50:17,060 --> 00:50:22,380
sure that we have time to actually go over these issues sufficiently. I just want to put

607
00:50:22,380 --> 00:50:28,120
that out to the planning department that we need to be prepared for that because I think that

608
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,660
What we heard from community members is they're ready for us to move forward with the EIR

609
00:50:31,660 --> 00:50:36,680
on the sustainability update, and I don't want to push off having that discussion

610
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,240
before we start that process.

611
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:44,820
On item number 72, I want to thank public works for their work on Main Street.

612
00:50:45,980 --> 00:50:50,540
This has been some work that's been long time coming, and I appreciate the efforts of the

613
00:50:50,540 --> 00:50:55,020
department to make sure that this safety improvements can be made for the school and the

614
00:50:55,020 --> 00:50:56,640
report it really makes a difference.

615
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,440
And then, lastly, on item number 87, this is another deferral.

616
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,480
This is our second deferral for the shared mobility and mobility as a service.

617
00:51:06,820 --> 00:51:10,460
I look forward to a robust item on August 6.

618
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:16,800
The community is very interested in looking at the shared mobility opportunities and we've

619
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,100
seen the success of jump bikes.

620
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,640
And I hope that on August 6 we have a chance to really talk about that.

621
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:22,760
Okay.

622
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:28,340
You said there's some items that I'd like to come in on number one is the number 26 on

623
00:51:28,340 --> 00:51:29,160
flavor tobacco.

624
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:34,480
I've heard from so retailers in my district concerned about losing revenue from the sale

625
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:39,940
of mental cigarettes as well as other non tobacco products and the customers buy when they

626
00:51:39,940 --> 00:51:44,460
come in to buy their offices or if they're sourced by cigarettes.

627
00:51:45,300 --> 00:51:50,540
I agree that if we ban these products it would be ideal if nearby jurisdictions consider

628
00:51:50,540 --> 00:51:54,460
doing the same so that we don't really create an unfair competition.

629
00:51:55,560 --> 00:52:00,600
I'd like to give additional direction on that issue to the Health Services Agency to work

630
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:01,900
with the other jurisdictions.

631
00:52:03,300 --> 00:52:10,100
In the ban on county and possibly adopt us having those other cities, possibly adopt us.

632
00:52:10,300 --> 00:52:13,500
Similarly, we're going to send report back to us in January of 2020.

633
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,920
I think they would give them enough time to do that.

634
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:25,920
On item number 40, I want to thank Senator U.S. Senator Diane Feinstein for recommending additional federal funding to address the homelessness issue.

635
00:52:26,660 --> 00:52:29,960
We need a greater investment to supplement the local and state funds.

636
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:34,560
Meaning, for what is really a national program, it's everywhere, you go.

637
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:40,080
On item number 41 that's been mentioned, I want to thank my colleagues, Supervisor Coonerty, for bringing

638
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:45,340
aside into the board and happy to support it on UCSE growth.

639
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:51,760
We have an obligation in this community and throughout the state of California to educate

640
00:52:51,760 --> 00:53:00,900
Californians in our university system and UCSC is a big part to play and that were to really uphold

641
00:53:00,900 --> 00:53:09,160
UC world-class research institution that it is. But we also are a small community and with

642
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:15,800
finite resources and I think this gives us a voice with the university to help shape what the future

643
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:21,800
looks like and how we mitigate the impacts, where there'd be in housing, water, transportation,

644
00:53:22,140 --> 00:53:28,020
and I'd like to say that as the University has grown and has had a substantial impact

645
00:53:28,020 --> 00:53:34,280
in our county, no question about it, that they have really come forward and done some really

646
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:38,660
great work on reducing their use of water. I mean, they have thousands of more students

647
00:53:38,660 --> 00:53:43,560
and they're using less water than they did 20 years ago. They, the student of the Metro

648
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:48,540
service of which I'm a board member. That's half of our ridership that goes to UCSC and

649
00:53:48,540 --> 00:53:55,840
they pay a portion of that to have that increased ridership. So UCSC has tried and succeeded

650
00:53:55,840 --> 00:54:00,760
in being a good partner with this county. We just want to make sure that when they are looking

651
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:07,260
at this growth that is going to be going up or going throughout the UCC system that they have

652
00:54:07,260 --> 00:54:13,540
our voice and our concerns about how they address particularly housing and its impact on this

653
00:54:13,540 --> 00:54:20,640
community on this county in the future, but I think they have done some positive things as

654
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:21,140
they have grown.

655
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:22,640
So we shouldn't forget that.

656
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,740
It is with us and it's going to stay with us and it's going to grow so we just have to

657
00:54:26,740 --> 00:54:32,280
see how we can make that impact as less severe on the rest of the community as possible.

658
00:54:33,700 --> 00:54:38,460
And number 44, the retirement of Betsy Lindberg, who lives in my district and public works

659
00:54:38,460 --> 00:54:38,920
department.

660
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:44,800
And she has been stellar, she has been fantastic and working on several items and the public

661
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,300
works department, and I just wish her well on a retirement.

662
00:54:49,020 --> 00:54:51,980
I'd like to see her come back from time to time and give us some advice.

663
00:54:52,220 --> 00:54:53,840
I'm sure she'd like to do that.

664
00:54:55,080 --> 00:55:02,540
But in number of 51, our new Health Officer, Dr. Gail Newell, we look forward to meeting with

665
00:55:02,540 --> 00:55:05,040
you and working with you and the future and congratulations.

666
00:55:05,740 --> 00:55:11,960
There's some serious issues health related as we know, and we're going to be discussing some of them today and later in the day.

667
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:18,320
I also like to mention on item 64 and five, the Sustainable Santa Cruz County.

668
00:55:19,020 --> 00:55:25,520
I'm glad to see the environmental review coming forward that this has been a work in progress for four or five years,

669
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:31,660
and it's going to be a real critical element in how this county grows in the future.

670
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:39,400
And lastly, on an item's 85 and 6th storm repairs, I'm very glad to see the contracts awarded

671
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,520
for a storm repair in Boulder Creek and near Scotts Valley.

672
00:55:43,060 --> 00:55:47,360
As it have been throughout the county, our public work department has been under the gun.

673
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:54,480
We've had some benefits, of course, with Measure D and SB-1 being upheld from the state

674
00:55:54,480 --> 00:56:01,300
to get additional revenue, but Santa Cruz County has also been the, I had the storm and

675
00:56:01,300 --> 00:56:05,900
several of these storms that have happened in the last four, five years and some of them

676
00:56:05,900 --> 00:56:10,220
would we have half of the road repair work that needs to be done in the state of California

677
00:56:10,220 --> 00:56:17,040
or in our county. I know a lot of people are frustrated that there's damaged in roads and

678
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:22,780
pop holes in front of their streets and so forth, but we're trying to address what we can as quickly

679
00:56:22,780 --> 00:56:28,940
as we can with the most heavily traveled roads for the safety of the travelers in our county.

680
00:56:29,900 --> 00:56:34,480
Public works really, and everybody in that department from Matt Machado, the director on

681
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:41,320
down Steve Weisner in charge of the deputy in charge of the robber pairs, I think they should

682
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:41,880
have a real.

683
00:56:42,340 --> 00:56:42,960
Thank you.

684
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:49,120
Big thank you from all of us for directing what we can do with what we have in monetary resources

685
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:50,400
as quickly as it can.

686
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:54,140
It's a huge job, but we're getting it done,

687
00:56:54,240 --> 00:56:55,940
road by road, pothole by pothole.

688
00:56:56,140 --> 00:56:57,320
So thank you for your patience,

689
00:56:57,860 --> 00:56:59,260
but thank you to the Public Works Department

690
00:56:59,260 --> 00:57:00,540
for staying with us.

691
00:57:00,860 --> 00:57:01,740
Thank you.

692
00:57:03,380 --> 00:57:04,000
Thank you.

693
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:04,560
Thank you.

694
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,200
I'll just comment on number 62.

695
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,920
That concerns the Watsonville Regional Airport.

696
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:17,280
And I don't know, it's not clear.

697
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,000
And it will be brought up August 27th

698
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:27,600
in September, 24th, but it's a two mile radius around what's the alert port.

699
00:57:28,180 --> 00:57:33,760
We have the information on what, what change are we looking for?

700
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,160
I don't know if you've got any idea.

701
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,100
I'm sorry, I don't have that information in that.

702
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:47,580
It is coming back.

703
00:57:47,660 --> 00:57:51,340
It is scheduled for August 27th, and we will be sure and get that information.

704
00:57:52,020 --> 00:57:52,540
Oh, here you go.

705
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:00,420
These are changes to, this is David Carlson from the Planning Department, and these are

706
00:58:00,420 --> 00:58:04,980
changes to bring our county code in general plan policies in compliance with the State of

707
00:58:04,980 --> 00:58:08,780
California Airport Land Use Planning Handbook.

708
00:58:09,380 --> 00:58:15,920
But we're changing the noise all about, involves changes to the noise element and changes

709
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:21,340
to the land use element and changes to one chapter of the county code to incorporate the requirements

710
00:58:21,340 --> 00:58:25,180
to the handbook into the county's policies and ordinances.

711
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:35,420
Okay, the second restrict the airport from having flights is it's certain in hours.

712
00:58:35,740 --> 00:58:40,380
It does not involve restrictions on the airport and it involves restrictions on land use around

713
00:58:40,380 --> 00:58:40,900
the airport.

714
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:42,720
Thank you.

715
00:58:42,860 --> 00:58:43,060
All right.

716
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:44,160
Thank you.

717
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:45,900
Did I draw any comment?

718
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:47,440
Okay.

719
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:52,000
And then, so I just have a couple of comments on the items today.

720
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,020
On the item number 35, we just got government center parking.

721
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:59,480
I was glad that the Parks Department, our Parks Commission was able to take a look at it.

722
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:04,180
I'd like to ask General Services to look at, come back with a plan to bring us a couple more

723
00:59:04,180 --> 00:59:11,300
picnic tables for the remaining green area outside so people can enjoy their lunch in that space.

724
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:16,680
On item number 45 on the AB 109 contracts, I want to appreciate the probation departments.

725
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:23,180
real driven, being driven by outcomes and adjusting contracts accordingly.

726
00:59:23,780 --> 00:59:27,980
Unlike in the future, all board items regarding AB 109 contracts should include outcome

727
00:59:27,980 --> 00:59:33,040
data from the contractors previous AB 109 contract, if there was a previous contract so we

728
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:40,120
can see how they did not only, how they plan to do going forward but how they did coming

729
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:41,140
into it.

730
00:59:41,140 --> 00:59:59,800
And then on item number 56 was a thrive by three, I just want to say how thrilled I am with the progress this program is continuing to grow and continuing to have a really great impact on children and babies in our community and I want to become a model around the state and I really forward to the report.

731
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,980
And then we're going to have in September around this. And I'm actually sorry, an item number 41, which is the UCSE growth and measure you. This is really a commitment that we made after the voters overwhelmingly approved measure you to say that when we look at the potential impact of 10,000 new students on campus, that we are going to advocate that for reduced impacts and traffic water housing, and all the ways and make sure that our voices heard among policy makers in Sacramento who are really looking for.

732
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,020
driving these decisions.

733
01:00:33,100 --> 01:00:37,060
So now I'll look for a motion on item number on the consent agenda with the exception of

734
01:00:37,060 --> 01:00:37,780
item number 63.

735
01:00:38,060 --> 01:00:39,700
I will move the consent agenda as amended.

736
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:45,480
Okay, a motion by Leopold and a second by McPherson, all those in favor, please say aye.

737
01:00:46,780 --> 01:00:47,140
Opposed?

738
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:48,660
That passes unanimously.

739
01:00:49,580 --> 01:00:52,840
We're moving on to item number seven, which is a public hearing to consider ordinances

740
01:00:52,840 --> 01:01:02,160
of Mending Santa Cruz County Code, Chapter 7.128, and 13.10 to relating to non-retail commercial

741
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:07,740
cannabis regulations and making findings of exemption from CEQA scheduled the ordinances

742
01:01:07,740 --> 01:01:13,740
for a second reading and final adoption on June 25th, 2019 and take related actions as outlined

743
01:01:13,740 --> 01:01:15,920
in the memorandum of the CAO.

744
01:01:48,030 --> 01:01:48,510
So, the report?

745
01:01:48,830 --> 01:01:50,310
Yeah, go for it.

746
01:01:55,470 --> 01:02:01,330
At the April 23rd Board of Supervisor meeting, staff stated that the last 10 months of code implementation

747
01:02:01,330 --> 01:02:04,770
have revealed the time-consuming nature of the use permit process.

748
01:02:05,370 --> 01:02:09,430
And this process is taking much more time than it was expected, especially for our existing

749
01:02:09,430 --> 01:02:10,990
commercial agricultural operators.

750
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:20,520
Staff identified various areas of county code, which can be perceived as creating difficulty

751
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:26,280
in the process and sought input on the board from the board on various recommendations.

752
01:02:29,140 --> 01:02:34,820
Our recommendations included the incorporation of a nursery and processor license type,

753
01:02:35,260 --> 01:02:41,000
aligning canopy and definitions with the state regulations, removal of general eligibility

754
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:50,400
restrictions, increasing the cultivation area in the CAC4 and M zones, and removal of cultivation

755
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,740
and size limits in the CA zone for indoor operations.

756
01:02:55,460 --> 01:03:02,420
These recommendations were incorporated into 7.128 and 1310 for the board to review at the

757
01:03:02,420 --> 01:03:08,440
May 14th reading, and these were provided to the Planning Commission for review at the May 29th

758
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:08,720
meeting.

759
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:16,860
While incorporating recommendations, staff identified a need for additional terms to make the

760
01:03:16,860 --> 01:03:21,720
modifications to code work, so we added several terms to the definition section and

761
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:25,100
modified the canopy definition to mirror state regulations.

762
01:03:28,010 --> 01:03:33,030
We proposed incorporating a nursery license type to allow for immature plant growth, genetic

763
01:03:33,030 --> 01:03:39,330
development and cloning, so that growers don't have to pay state license fees based on mature

764
01:03:39,330 --> 01:03:41,190
plant canopy for nursery operations.

765
01:03:42,150 --> 01:03:47,670
These types of operations have to meet the eligibility restrictions in the T.P. and RA zones

766
01:03:47,670 --> 01:03:49,410
that the board has previously approved.

767
01:03:51,260 --> 01:03:57,400
Cannabis processing was previously included, but the activity of processing was not defined.

768
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:02,500
To process cannabis means to dry, trim, store, and package.

769
01:04:03,260 --> 01:04:08,260
Processing is allowed as part of cultivation operations, but we are proposing to allow processing

770
01:04:08,260 --> 01:04:11,140
to be done at an independent offsite facility.

771
01:04:12,060 --> 01:04:19,440
We're proposing to incorporate a processor license in the CA, C4 and M zones, as staff is identified

772
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:24,820
this as a gap in the market. Currently we have multiple outdoor growers cultivating cannabis

773
01:04:24,820 --> 01:04:30,820
who are not processing cannabis on site due to financial costs associated with complying with

774
01:04:30,820 --> 01:04:36,460
fire code. They are shipping all their cannabis off site and out of county, which is increasing

775
01:04:36,460 --> 01:04:39,960
stresses on our roadways and decreasing tax dollars for the county currently.

776
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:43,400
Originally,

777
01:04:44,060 --> 01:04:50,420
eligibility restrictions were put in place to protect the local market but were proposing to remove

778
01:04:50,420 --> 01:04:57,420
the registration requirement based on only 2% of registrants have applying for a use permit

779
01:04:57,420 --> 01:05:01,780
and just over 10% have completed the pre-oplication process at this point.

780
01:05:04,490 --> 01:05:10,390
We're proposing to increase the cultivation area in the CA zone by differentiating the cultivation

781
01:05:10,910 --> 01:05:17,490
area from the canopy. This increase does not apply to the coastal zone and the canopy is the mature

782
01:05:17,490 --> 01:05:23,870
plant area or the flowering area where the cultivation area is the immature and mature plant

783
01:05:23,870 --> 01:05:24,250
area.

784
01:05:24,750 --> 01:05:32,490
This additional space will provide cultivators an extra 1.2 and extra 1.25% of the land for

785
01:05:32,490 --> 01:05:38,010
a single operator or up to 2.5% of the partial size for multiple tenants.

786
01:05:40,500 --> 01:05:47,140
We're proposing something similar for the C4 and M zones by providing additional space to cultivators

787
01:05:47,140 --> 01:05:51,820
to maintain sufficient immature plant stock to maintain continuous flower operations.

788
01:05:52,620 --> 01:05:55,740
This is in line with other jurisdictions and with state code.

789
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:04,100
We're proposing to allow development in the CA zone of existing impervious areas,

790
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:07,400
as long as the area was permitted or legally non-conforming.

791
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:13,380
This development would not have a cultivation area limit tied to the size of the parcel,

792
01:06:13,380 --> 01:06:19,040
Similar to how cultivation size is not limited by personal size in the C4 and M zones.

793
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:26,320
This would allow redevelopment of existing infrastructure and hardscape while restricting any takes of agricultural soil.

794
01:06:27,420 --> 01:06:32,320
The goal is to eliminate pressure on the C4 and M zones while preserving agricultural lands.

795
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:43,520
We're proposing to change all use permits to level 3 for existing buildings in the CA, C4 and M zones,

796
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:48,520
and allow crop conversions in the CA zone to be completed via a Level 3 review.

797
01:06:49,260 --> 01:06:53,920
This will decrease processing time for use permits by up to three months.

798
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,720
Now, prior to the May 29 planning commission meeting,

799
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:06,540
staff prepared a revised version of the use charts in 1310 based on board concerns expressed

800
01:07:06,540 --> 01:07:07,840
at the May 14th meeting.

801
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:19,260
The revised use charts include a permit level of three or four for all cultivation sites in the CA, C4 and M zone parcels, which are currently a level four or six review.

802
01:07:20,020 --> 01:07:26,040
A review level four includes a public comment period of 21 days to provide feedback.

803
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:29,960
All cultivation sites, which are adjacent to a park, or a...

804
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:42,640
Partial with a different zoning and have a home will be subject to the level four review under the proposed version. Now, the planning commission recommended this version, and this is what has been provided to the board and the attachments.

805
01:07:45,620 --> 01:07:45,620
Questions?

806
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:53,940
Any questions? Seeing none, let's open up for public comment. Is there anyone who can public would like to comment?

807
01:07:56,650 --> 01:07:58,930
Please line up if you have a comment today.

808
01:07:59,830 --> 01:08:03,450
Good morning, Darren's story with Santa Cruz County,

809
01:08:04,030 --> 01:08:05,970
cannabis alliance down in South County,

810
01:08:06,210 --> 01:08:09,950
a group of 20 farmers working on getting streamlined

811
01:08:09,950 --> 01:08:11,890
and getting these operations up and running.

812
01:08:13,010 --> 01:08:16,850
I hear a mention quite a bit about increasing tax revenues,

813
01:08:17,230 --> 01:08:18,870
but it's not really about that.

814
01:08:19,710 --> 01:08:22,510
It's about increasing jobs and economic vitality.

815
01:08:22,930 --> 01:08:24,630
It helps to reduce crime.

816
01:08:25,310 --> 01:08:28,630
Keeps kids off the streets and really just adds benefit

817
01:08:28,630 --> 01:08:30,370
to the community in general.

818
01:08:31,110 --> 01:08:34,890
I was down in Greenfield yesterday at a processing facility there.

819
01:08:35,110 --> 01:08:36,270
They built it from scratch.

820
01:08:37,150 --> 01:08:39,870
They provided 350 jobs to the local residents,

821
01:08:40,350 --> 01:08:41,930
and it's going pretty well.

822
01:08:43,230 --> 01:08:45,670
Not another facility somewhere that up in Mendocino,

823
01:08:45,990 --> 01:08:48,910
they're able to rehabilitate the Fetsor winery,

824
01:08:49,470 --> 01:08:52,570
which had been in disarray for over a couple decades.

825
01:08:53,210 --> 01:08:55,630
They now have 286 people on staff.

826
01:08:55,950 --> 01:08:58,270
They're continuing to make improvements.

827
01:08:58,270 --> 01:09:02,890
not of these are new buildings, they're just rehabilitating existing agricultural buildings

828
01:09:02,890 --> 01:09:07,370
and providing jobs, doing it right, doing it correct, working with the community, all the

829
01:09:07,370 --> 01:09:13,150
stakeholders, neighbors, you name it, just trying to create a new business and a new industry

830
01:09:13,150 --> 01:09:18,410
and we like to do the same thing here in Santa Cruz County. We've been trying to do this for

831
01:09:18,410 --> 01:09:23,350
over three years in the meantime that people in Greenfield and Mendocino are already up and running

832
01:09:23,350 --> 01:09:25,610
and providing quite a bit of jobs.

833
01:09:26,310 --> 01:09:28,270
And right now we have about 50 people on staff.

834
01:09:28,830 --> 01:09:30,950
We'd like to create a process and facility

835
01:09:30,950 --> 01:09:32,910
that would be similar to these facilities.

836
01:09:33,530 --> 01:09:37,070
Keep all those jobs and the economic vitality here

837
01:09:37,070 --> 01:09:40,330
in Santa Cruz County and hopefully some tax revenue as well.

838
01:09:40,570 --> 01:09:42,730
That's always nice, but it's not the main point.

839
01:09:43,490 --> 01:09:45,270
Thank you.

840
01:09:45,910 --> 01:09:47,590
Hi, Pat Mello.

841
01:09:47,850 --> 01:09:51,130
First, let me say thanks for going forward with these changes.

842
01:09:51,130 --> 01:09:55,870
it's really going to help at least the folks who are still struggling to make this work and

843
01:09:55,870 --> 01:10:00,610
the commercial acts on. But we've got a bigger problem. I think that all of you are aware

844
01:10:00,610 --> 01:10:05,690
at this point that we had hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of registrants folks who are

845
01:10:05,690 --> 01:10:13,910
interested in going from what was legal medical businesses now into this new state system of regulation.

846
01:10:14,390 --> 01:10:18,910
And we've done absolutely terrible about getting those folks in. And some of them weren't

847
01:10:18,910 --> 01:10:20,690
community members, some of them left.

848
01:10:20,970 --> 01:10:23,550
Most of them work community members and are still here.

849
01:10:24,010 --> 01:10:28,010
And my big problem with that is that we've actually pushed them

850
01:10:28,010 --> 01:10:33,530
into now, you know, not as criminalized, but a criminal channel.

851
01:10:34,030 --> 01:10:37,670
And now we're spending all this money, which we should be spending on thrive

852
01:10:37,670 --> 01:10:42,910
by three children, unmet needs in the community, on enforcement.

853
01:10:43,370 --> 01:10:46,270
So it's kind of just a, where did we go?

854
01:10:46,270 --> 01:10:53,130
forwarder backwards. And, you know, my, the main issue that it's not just these folks

855
01:10:53,130 --> 01:10:58,290
who now have to figure it out in this, you know, criminalized channel, it's that we took,

856
01:10:58,450 --> 01:11:05,470
you know, the whole Santa Cruz Mountains and what used to be by 7.126 legal gardens

857
01:11:05,470 --> 01:11:12,410
are now illegal. And, you know, we have no protections for the environment, no protections

858
01:11:12,410 --> 01:11:18,110
for the people who are going to use those products and no tax revenue at all off of any

859
01:11:18,110 --> 01:11:18,810
of those things.

860
01:11:19,050 --> 01:11:25,690
So we can sit here and celebrate the changes that are long overdue and necessary for a

861
01:11:25,690 --> 01:11:30,050
certain number of folks, but we really need to get moving on everything else, or all we're

862
01:11:30,050 --> 01:11:34,290
going to have is illegal cannabis in Santa Cruz Mountains, and that was not the goal.

863
01:11:34,850 --> 01:11:39,390
And you're right in your district, Bonnie Dune, only has illegal cannabis at this point.

864
01:11:40,070 --> 01:11:40,910
It's not a success.

865
01:11:40,910 --> 01:11:48,290
So, thank you. I'm really sorry. This is my hometown. I wish that all of you guys knew what it was like to have this happen.

866
01:11:48,430 --> 01:11:49,210
Thank you.

867
01:11:54,310 --> 01:12:02,370
Good morning. I'm Ray Pasquale. I have over 35 years experience in the highly regulated food and agricultural industries for major companies on the East Coast and the West Coast.

868
01:12:02,930 --> 01:12:07,570
Over the past 21 years, I served as a leader of the many of these companies as either present or CEO.

869
01:12:07,570 --> 01:12:13,570
I'm honored to represent our company, HQP, Incorporated, or High Quality Products, an extremely

870
01:12:13,570 --> 01:12:18,390
proud to serve as CEO of HQP in an exciting new legal industry.

871
01:12:18,870 --> 01:12:25,030
We are highly respected and highly established licensed cultivator and licensed distributor

872
01:12:25,030 --> 01:12:28,570
located in Mosslining, California, in the County of Monterey.

873
01:12:29,010 --> 01:12:34,250
I am here in hopes the Board of Supervisors will favorably consider amendments to Santa Cruz

874
01:12:34,250 --> 01:12:35,690
County's cannabis regulations.

875
01:12:35,690 --> 01:12:42,410
Our company supports the amendment to increase allowable canopy space, input, and pervious areas

876
01:12:42,410 --> 01:12:45,550
based on the discretion of the cannabis licensing official.

877
01:12:47,710 --> 01:12:51,150
Well, HQP currently operates our business in Monterey County.

878
01:12:51,430 --> 01:12:57,410
Our company has an acid purchase agreement for five acres in Santa Cruz County.

879
01:12:57,630 --> 01:13:01,790
In order to maximize the company's investment, our business client calls for redevelopment

880
01:13:01,790 --> 01:13:05,330
of these impervious areas in the commercial agricultural zone.

881
01:13:05,330 --> 01:13:09,930
Currently, cultivation in Santa Cruz County is limited based on parts of size, two-and-a-half

882
01:13:09,930 --> 01:13:15,230
for parts of size for single occupants, or 5% for parts of size for multiple occupants.

883
01:13:15,790 --> 01:13:20,290
The proposed amendment will change, but not only have a change in limit, but based on

884
01:13:20,290 --> 01:13:23,650
parts of size up to the discretion of the cannabis licensing official.

885
01:13:24,430 --> 01:13:29,550
High quality products has many young and energetic workforce that will provide a future

886
01:13:29,550 --> 01:13:30,770
foundation for our company.

887
01:13:30,770 --> 01:13:37,390
We currently employ total of 67 employees, about 40 of those, or 60% of workforce commute

888
01:13:37,390 --> 01:13:39,290
from Santa Cruz County to Monterey County.

889
01:13:39,850 --> 01:13:43,170
Our team members commute five days a week, and because we are a cultivator, we have several

890
01:13:43,170 --> 01:13:45,810
team members who cultivate during the weekends.

891
01:13:46,550 --> 01:13:50,370
The amendment to increase a allowable kind of space in pervice and would solidify our

892
01:13:50,370 --> 01:13:55,510
business decision and not restrict our investment on the Santa Cruz County.

893
01:13:56,290 --> 01:13:59,730
The benefits of operating the Santa Cruz County for our current employees will allow for

894
01:13:59,730 --> 01:14:03,390
to contribute, can you do seem to congestion a high travel?

895
01:14:03,390 --> 01:14:03,950
Thank you.

896
01:14:04,110 --> 01:14:04,750
Highways, well.

897
01:14:05,170 --> 01:14:06,110
So thank you very much.

898
01:14:09,870 --> 01:14:11,950
All right, Robert Kidney, I'm like Kid Allen Brothers.

899
01:14:12,610 --> 01:14:14,090
And I just wanted to speak today.

900
01:14:14,530 --> 01:14:16,170
I did want to thank the supervisors.

901
01:14:16,450 --> 01:14:22,270
I think since the last meetings in May, there has been a change in attitudes by the

902
01:14:22,270 --> 01:14:28,390
county towards trying to move the process forward, as far as applicants I want to appreciate

903
01:14:28,390 --> 01:14:29,270
that.

904
01:14:29,270 --> 01:14:35,670
House of support, the recommendations of the CLO, and I think the CLO was really working

905
01:14:35,670 --> 01:14:41,010
now to create a sustainable cannabis business in Santa Cruz County.

906
01:14:41,950 --> 01:14:47,030
The main message that I want to talk about today is we're not concerned, you know, if we

907
01:14:47,030 --> 01:14:52,130
can get through the process, we're not concerned about competing against Mendocino or Monterey

908
01:14:52,130 --> 01:14:56,790
or Carpenteria, because I think they're all pretty much going to be on a level playing field.

909
01:14:57,590 --> 01:14:59,970
But I've been going to a lot of different...

910
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:28,440
Some seminars were there talking about the future. And in the future, when no one knows what it will be, if it will be legally, federally legal, but there's a good chance. And we know very well about competition from offshore. So I've just heard that there's going to be 50 to 100,000 hectares of cannabis now going to be grown in the Savannah of Bogotá. And I do know about competition from Bogotá and from Colombia.

911
01:15:28,440 --> 01:15:34,860
And I just want you to know that make sure that all of this effort we're putting into to build

912
01:15:34,860 --> 01:15:41,540
cannabis industry in Santa Cruz is in just a short-term blip with a lot of effort, but that five years now.

913
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:52,560
It doesn't exist because we over-regulated, we overcast, and we put too many restrictions that we could be competitive on a world market.

914
01:15:52,560 --> 01:16:02,240
I think Santa Cruz has potential to have a very good, profitable cannabis industry if we grow good quality clean product for a local market.

915
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:07,860
But I just want to make sure that we are able to have a business for a long term.

916
01:16:07,860 --> 01:16:08,580
Thank you very much.

917
01:16:11,460 --> 01:16:11,720
Okay.

918
01:16:12,060 --> 01:16:13,340
It's me, me, Snowden again.

919
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:14,140
No, Mike.

920
01:16:14,540 --> 01:16:14,700
Mike, Mike.

921
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:16,740
You already spoke to this issue.

922
01:16:16,740 --> 01:16:24,660
So, can I have a question, can I just know what a level four is, what the kind of levels

923
01:16:24,660 --> 01:16:25,740
in order to get permits?

924
01:16:26,740 --> 01:16:27,760
Well, that's what it was.

925
01:16:28,020 --> 01:16:29,440
The planning department has asked that question.

926
01:16:29,780 --> 01:16:30,320
That's fine.

927
01:16:34,170 --> 01:16:34,990
Good morning, Board.

928
01:16:35,610 --> 01:16:36,490
My name is Robert Singleton.

929
01:16:36,570 --> 01:16:38,710
I'm the Executive Director of the Santa Cruz County Business Council.

930
01:16:39,110 --> 01:16:43,410
I just want to say that our organization considered a lot of these changes, reviewed them,

931
01:16:43,410 --> 01:16:47,170
and just want to say we support the direction of your board's moving, and I'm making it easier

932
01:16:47,170 --> 01:16:53,350
for local business owners to bring their products to market, to make the process easier to

933
01:16:53,350 --> 01:16:58,050
conform to and ultimately just to make it so that more people are helping to produce and provide

934
01:16:58,050 --> 01:17:02,710
community and economic vitality here at Santa Cruz County. Obviously we think there should

935
01:17:02,710 --> 01:17:08,430
be a lot more done in terms of helping to facilitate these businesses and allowing for more

936
01:17:08,430 --> 01:17:14,950
legal access and more legal ability to start your business to get permanently and get up and running

937
01:17:14,950 --> 01:17:19,670
As I would cut down the black market and help generate more tax revenue, but this is a step in the right direction, so

938
01:17:19,670 --> 01:17:21,890
Just saying what the changes. Thank you.

939
01:17:25,460 --> 01:17:25,700
Good morning.

940
01:17:26,480 --> 01:17:35,560
And he was Jesse Roberto, and today I'm speaking to you as a member of community prevention partners and we do appreciate what the Board has done and

941
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:45,300
the proposed changes we do support that and with that said, there is a strong need for local non retail cannabis businesses to be rapidly licensed and

942
01:17:45,300 --> 01:17:47,500
participating in the regulated market.

943
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,120
Regulation benefits our whole community.

944
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:56,260
It decreases youth access, supports responsible cannabis businesses, protects the environment

945
01:17:56,260 --> 01:17:57,740
and brings in tax revenue.

946
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:05,880
So we also support the proposed public notice hearing at a level four for adjacent properties

947
01:18:06,220 --> 01:18:08,560
that are residential to the C.A.A. zones.

948
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:19,460
And we also support an annual review process that also gives the public a chance to bring any concerns in at that time as well.

949
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:29,780
The current reviews process through planning, as you all know, had not been entirely effective and inadvertently promotes an illicit market.

950
01:18:29,780 --> 01:18:43,580
So even with the recommendations today, we still have barriers in the licensing program and the planning department in order to meet the school of the 75 licensed businesses.

951
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:55,740
We needed to continue to identify clearly name and address barriers to participation in the regulated market or else we will continue to have the opposite of what we intended and want as a community.

952
01:18:55,740 --> 01:19:05,080
We urge you to use these quarterly reports from the cannabis licensing office to assess incrementally

953
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:07,920
if the shifts in this ordinance are working.

954
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:14,440
And then be able to adjust accordingly in a timely manner and ensure that the system is working

955
01:19:14,440 --> 01:19:17,420
and that we're on track to meeting these licensing needs.

956
01:19:18,480 --> 01:19:23,800
We all stand for well-being of use of the environment of neighborhoods and of local individuals

957
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:28,280
to be financially sound enough to meet their needs and stay in Santa Cruz.

958
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:33,020
So, policy is one of the best tools to achieve that impact, but it only works when the

959
01:19:33,020 --> 01:19:35,580
regulatory system is designed to protect the community.

960
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:36,900
It's working for.

961
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:37,320
Thank you.

962
01:19:37,580 --> 01:19:37,600
Thank you.

963
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:38,760
Thank you so much.

964
01:19:44,790 --> 01:19:59,410
Marlon Garrett, the last statement I want to pick up on that it only works when the

965
01:19:59,410 --> 01:20:04,290
a determination of exemption from sequo,

966
01:20:04,630 --> 01:20:08,410
California environmental quality at wood,

967
01:20:10,210 --> 01:20:15,830
you know, disclosed if this is harmful to the environment or not.

968
01:20:16,230 --> 01:20:24,310
And I think sequo is vitally important to any big projects

969
01:20:24,310 --> 01:20:26,730
or developments in here too.

970
01:20:26,730 --> 01:20:30,570
I've heard that some cannabis growing,

971
01:20:31,230 --> 01:20:36,070
they use rodent and sides or different pesticides on the crop.

972
01:20:36,590 --> 01:20:39,670
That's really environmentally damaging

973
01:20:39,670 --> 01:20:45,110
anyway you look out of the way it gets into the larger environment.

974
01:20:45,810 --> 01:20:48,030
The use of water is another question.

975
01:20:48,510 --> 01:20:54,530
What's happening to the drain so I think this should be changed

976
01:20:54,530 --> 01:21:05,110
to say that you require CEQA, California Environmental Quality Act, criteria to be met.

977
01:21:05,850 --> 01:21:09,230
That's, I think it's vital importance, that's my point.

978
01:21:09,330 --> 01:21:10,150
Thank you.

979
01:21:10,470 --> 01:21:11,350
Thank you.

980
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:13,940
Speaker of final speaker.

981
01:21:14,340 --> 01:21:15,680
Anyone else?

982
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:21,060
Secretary Kennedy, members of the Board, Kirk Schmidt, appearing, again, addressing new

983
01:21:21,060 --> 01:21:29,320
As to existing green houses on C.A. land, I support the changes that have been made, particularly

984
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:34,800
the changes dealing with license registration to open it to a broader group instead of

985
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:40,280
restricting it to pre-registerance and also the changes as to zoning.

986
01:21:40,820 --> 01:21:47,280
There were some minor errors that were cleaned up by the Planning Commission two weeks ago,

987
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:58,000
And I appreciate that, however, there was one remaining error that I would not notice until now, and it deals with the definition of a greenhouses, which is definition of age.

988
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:12,420
This in your proposal, and this is a new definition, and the word used is just incorrect. It says constructed of glass or an opaque material which allows natural light to enter.

989
01:22:12,420 --> 01:22:17,220
OPEC does not allow natural light to enter the correct order, which would be translucent,

990
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:22,260
which transparent, much like government should be transparent instead of OPEC.

991
01:22:22,860 --> 01:22:28,400
So I request that you make this one minor change to definition H.

992
01:22:28,820 --> 01:22:29,980
And last May.

993
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:38,760
In 2018, when you approved this ordinance the first time, it came back for the second reading of the following month.

994
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:45,660
And it was bifurcated so that that portion of the ordinance that was not within the coastal zone could go into effect at that time.

995
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:50,060
And I assume that this will be the same procedure of this occasion. Thank you very much.

996
01:22:50,540 --> 01:22:59,980
Thank you. That's our final speaker. I think I'll first turn to planning and ask you to quickly review the implications of a level four permit.

997
01:22:59,980 --> 01:23:00,060
as

998
01:23:03,070 --> 01:23:05,830
was asked.

999
01:23:05,890 --> 01:23:08,930
A level four permit is an administrative permit.

1000
01:23:09,270 --> 01:23:12,410
There is however public noticing on two different occasions.

1001
01:23:13,010 --> 01:23:16,010
The planning director or the staff is the decision-making body,

1002
01:23:16,410 --> 01:23:19,490
but level four permits are appealable by anyone,

1003
01:23:19,690 --> 01:23:21,810
and they would be appeal to the zoning administrator.

1004
01:23:22,590 --> 01:23:23,670
Great. Thank you.

1005
01:23:24,010 --> 01:23:27,370
Now, are there any other questions from my fellow board members?

1006
01:23:28,010 --> 01:23:34,190
Well, maybe staff could just address the issue about the definition that was just brought up by our last speaker.

1007
01:23:38,510 --> 01:23:39,470
Anybody want to give it a shot?

1008
01:23:40,790 --> 01:23:41,970
I guess you drew the short straw.

1009
01:23:42,630 --> 01:23:42,750
Yes.

1010
01:23:44,190 --> 01:23:56,410
The term opaque was put in maybe incorrectly, but I we thought it was correct because we used opaque to me in a material where light can come in, but you can't actually see directly through it.

1011
01:23:56,410 --> 01:24:02,550
because some greenhouses are made of a material that you can't see through, but it allows light to come in.

1012
01:24:03,250 --> 01:24:06,170
So I will leave it at that.

1013
01:24:08,370 --> 01:24:12,170
I don't know whether Council wants to weigh in.

1014
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:18,960
My impression was that it matches the definition in state law. I was just trying to find it.

1015
01:24:18,980 --> 01:24:22,420
Perhaps we could move on and I'll see if I can find it.

1016
01:24:22,420 --> 01:24:24,060
Okay. Are there any other questions?

1017
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:25,820
For comments?

1018
01:24:26,580 --> 01:24:26,660
Super.

1019
01:24:27,980 --> 01:24:29,960
I'll leave just brief on the comments.

1020
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:32,260
I think that my position on this is pretty well known.

1021
01:24:32,420 --> 01:24:34,400
I appreciate the fact that the planning commission attempted

1022
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:38,520
to or did come back with additional noticing

1023
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:39,980
adjacent to residences.

1024
01:24:40,180 --> 01:24:42,100
I still don't actually think it goes far enough.

1025
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:44,340
I think that we should recognize just in general

1026
01:24:44,340 --> 01:24:46,100
on the noticing that.

1027
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:50,240
You'll now for overwhelmingly on cannabis-related issues

1028
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:52,080
in Santa Cruz County, you'd have more notice

1029
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:53,620
if a vacation rental was in your neighborhood

1030
01:24:53,620 --> 01:24:55,200
than if the cannabis grow is occurring.

1031
01:24:55,980 --> 01:24:57,420
And I just think that's a policy decision

1032
01:24:57,420 --> 01:24:59,180
that board can make, but we should at least be honest

1033
01:24:59,180 --> 01:25:01,980
about the fact that this noticing,

1034
01:25:02,020 --> 01:25:05,760
especially if the administrative level really rarely changes

1035
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:08,720
the outcome with conditions and probably doesn't make

1036
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:09,460
them much of a difference.

1037
01:25:09,480 --> 01:25:12,400
But with that said, I mean, I think that it's an attempt

1038
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:14,380
to at least provide information to neighbors

1039
01:25:14,380 --> 01:25:18,620
with that work, getting it before immediately after the last vote.

1040
01:25:18,620 --> 01:25:21,280
We did receive it a lot of concerns from people that way.

1041
01:25:21,420 --> 01:25:26,700
I also think that this is a larger expansion on cultivation policy than it's actually been presented.

1042
01:25:27,420 --> 01:25:30,880
It's really been proposed as to Minimus, but it's actually larger than that.

1043
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:36,680
I share Mr. Kidney on this concern about international competition, but I share it in a slightly different way,

1044
01:25:36,780 --> 01:25:44,220
which is to say that one of the reasons that we have so many of these underused greenhouses is because of the issues that were brought up.

1045
01:25:44,220 --> 01:25:51,320
My concern about allowing for the construction even on impervious locations is that it should the market collapse.

1046
01:25:51,540 --> 01:25:56,580
As, by the way, has been predicted by a lot of people that come to before the board,

1047
01:25:56,860 --> 01:25:59,180
then will be stuck with the exact same situation.

1048
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:03,840
We can't deregulate our way out of that situation on international competition,

1049
01:26:04,020 --> 01:26:07,500
because there's a lot of other elements on labor rates, which is the number one drive on that,

1050
01:26:07,500 --> 01:26:09,140
that the county has no impact on.

1051
01:26:09,140 --> 01:26:14,660
So, realistically speaking, if you don't want the entire

1052
01:26:14,660 --> 01:26:18,160
pop-ro valley to look functionally different in the next five years,

1053
01:26:18,300 --> 01:26:29,440
and then the next five years after that, which is to say that you'd have a lot of new structures that serve no value, then you would want to be pretty restrictive on what you can allow these constructs, and this construct doesn't allow that.

1054
01:26:30,060 --> 01:26:38,640
So, I just can't support it. I understand why staff is going that way. I respect the concerns from the community about the black market.

1055
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:40,860
I think a lot of the comments have been self-fulfilling

1056
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:41,680
prophecies.

1057
01:26:41,780 --> 01:26:45,020
I mean, asking for regulation, allowing them to create a regulatory framework,

1058
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:46,740
and asking for deregulation, because you don't

1059
01:26:46,740 --> 01:26:50,440
like what the regulation is, is a difficult policy

1060
01:26:50,440 --> 01:26:52,520
making process, but it's a fluid process.

1061
01:26:53,660 --> 01:26:57,200
Even if it's a bit opaque sometimes, it's a fluid process.

1062
01:26:58,300 --> 01:26:59,780
But I'm not supporting it.

1063
01:26:59,780 --> 01:27:01,500
And I think that there's more that can be done.

1064
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:03,820
I know that this issue is going to continue to come back to us.

1065
01:27:03,900 --> 01:27:05,180
And I think, unfortunately, the only thing that's

1066
01:27:05,180 --> 01:27:07,280
going to continue to come back to us is more and more

1067
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:14,880
of regulation and protections for neighborhoods and these agricultural areas, and I'm just concerned

1068
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:20,060
about what that I'll mean for the value moving forward, but I guess time will tell how that

1069
01:27:20,060 --> 01:27:20,980
pans out.

1070
01:27:21,940 --> 01:27:22,000
Thank you.

1071
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:23,320
Thank you.

1072
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:24,200
Thank you, Chair.

1073
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:29,720
Thank you for the comments from members of the public as everyone knows we spent a lot of

1074
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:38,160
I'm talking about this business, this industry, the change in laws and trying to come up with

1075
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:39,660
something that actually worked.

1076
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:46,780
I respect my colleague, Comin' Although, I don't agree, because, you know, that just

1077
01:27:46,780 --> 01:27:55,020
this weekend, I went down to the Kitty Island Brothers farm for the Gerber Daisy festival.

1078
01:27:55,020 --> 01:28:02,280
And it was a great event and I recommend everybody attend that festival whenever it gets put on.

1079
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:07,620
But you can just see the acres of green houses that sit empty.

1080
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:17,020
And thinking that that that that could be used in a successful way here in our county is a good thing.

1081
01:28:17,260 --> 01:28:19,660
It helps a local business, a local farmer,

1082
01:28:19,660 --> 01:28:26,640
people who contributed to the community to continue doing what they know how to do which is

1083
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:34,580
grow plants with flowers and contribute to the economic base of our county. We could live

1084
01:28:34,580 --> 01:28:42,240
in fear of the future and say let's not do anything because we might be challenged in the

1085
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:49,380
future with international trade and so therefore we shouldn't do it. I don't agree. I think

1086
01:28:49,380 --> 01:28:56,340
that the balance that's struck here, which is not going into agricultural soil.

1087
01:28:57,020 --> 01:29:01,780
But using areas that have already been disturbed, or which there might already be in

1088
01:29:01,780 --> 01:29:04,560
pervious surface, is a good balance.

1089
01:29:05,060 --> 01:29:10,380
That is going to be a business decision by farmers and landowners about whether they want

1090
01:29:10,380 --> 01:29:14,380
to make investments in their property, whether we want them to redevelop their spots,

1091
01:29:14,480 --> 01:29:16,900
whether they want to invest in new technologies.

1092
01:29:16,900 --> 01:29:34,580
And I think that's worthwhile, and I think that it will be no surprise to any of us here that over the next five years we're going to be doing a lot of recalibration, because a lot of our policy has been driven by the unknown, fear of the unknown.

1093
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:46,580
And as this state regulatory structure reveals itself and we try to fit in with that and it's clear what the market looks like.

1094
01:29:46,580 --> 01:29:49,240
We're going to need to recalibrate.

1095
01:29:49,900 --> 01:29:51,720
That's not necessarily deregulations.

1096
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:54,400
I would argue that's effective policy,

1097
01:29:54,860 --> 01:29:59,960
because we shouldn't just stay the way.

1098
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:11,440
We think in 2008 or 2018, if we know more in 2020 or 2008. We're going to know a lot more about this industry.

1099
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:17,160
We're going to know about its impact. We're going to know a lot more about its economic contribution to the county.

1100
01:30:17,380 --> 01:30:21,120
We're going to know a lot more about what's happening nationally or even internationally.

1101
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:24,400
And we will have to make changes to that.

1102
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:27,140
That's what we do, especially in an area,

1103
01:30:27,860 --> 01:30:31,040
which we don't have any previous regulatory experience,

1104
01:30:32,300 --> 01:30:35,560
and which there are so many differences

1105
01:30:36,480 --> 01:30:39,840
county to county, state by state country to country.

1106
01:30:40,820 --> 01:30:45,000
So I think these are reasonable changes

1107
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:47,680
that don't open the door too wide,

1108
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:51,340
but allow good commercial activity to go on,

1109
01:30:51,660 --> 01:30:53,760
the addition at the planning commission

1110
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:57,460
to deal with those commercial ag properties

1111
01:30:57,460 --> 01:31:00,280
that are joined residential or park properties,

1112
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:03,740
is a balance, and I think that's a good balance.

1113
01:31:04,460 --> 01:31:05,820
And notification is important.

1114
01:31:07,180 --> 01:31:09,620
And there's a lot of vacation rentals in my neighborhood.

1115
01:31:09,860 --> 01:31:11,480
They all get those same blue cards

1116
01:31:11,480 --> 01:31:17,660
that people will get now if they join CA Parks

1117
01:31:17,660 --> 01:31:25,380
that is going to have cannabis. So I'm not exactly sure that they're going to be less regulated

1118
01:31:25,380 --> 01:31:33,320
than vacation rentals. It's pretty light. That's a couple hundred dollars. It's a form for

1119
01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:38,800
some people you fill it out once and that's it. The folks here have to go through a tremendous

1120
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:44,730
amount of investment. They have to clear a lot of regulatory hurdles. They have to be

1121
01:31:48,100 --> 01:31:55,460
overseen by not only the local authorities, but the state authorities, and they have to pay a tremendous amount of taxes.

1122
01:31:56,380 --> 01:32:02,360
And so I don't agree there, but I understand the point that he's making.

1123
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:05,500
He just wants to make sure we have a well-regulated industry.

1124
01:32:05,580 --> 01:32:11,560
I think this is well-regulated, and commercial ag is a policy choice that we're making,

1125
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:15,800
which makes sense that plants grow in the places where we've designated for plants to be grown.

1126
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:18,900
So I would move the staff recommendations.

1127
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:23,180
So we have a motion, a second, a second, a second.

1128
01:32:23,180 --> 01:32:24,080
Was there any other comments?

1129
01:32:24,540 --> 01:32:28,120
Yeah, I just would like to, this has been a work in progress

1130
01:32:28,120 --> 01:32:30,680
for, and we're still progressing, so to speak,

1131
01:32:30,940 --> 01:32:32,680
and we still have a long way to go, maybe.

1132
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:36,540
But I do appreciate working with the agriculture department,

1133
01:32:36,860 --> 01:32:38,240
county agriculture department.

1134
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:42,760
I know that we have worked to try to stay independent

1135
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:48,900
and make our own rules as far as possible, but there is also some, we have to recognize

1136
01:32:48,900 --> 01:32:51,300
some state regulations too as we move along.

1137
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:56,140
But I do support the level four, proposed sites in your parks and residential areas.

1138
01:32:57,340 --> 01:33:03,080
We have, we really, this has been an effort to strike a balance between lowering the

1139
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:09,300
various for cannabis industry and also protecting public safety and providing some public

1140
01:33:09,300 --> 01:33:10,060
notification.

1141
01:33:10,060 --> 01:33:14,420
And I think this is what we're proposing meets that balance.

1142
01:33:15,340 --> 01:33:21,080
I do also support the losing of restrictions around pre-registration because I think

1143
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:24,760
that's been a tremendous stumbling block that we've had.

1144
01:33:25,340 --> 01:33:30,160
We set up a program really in a way that was designed to give our local growers an advantage

1145
01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:35,600
but it doesn't seem to have worked out that way to achieve the result that we were seeking.

1146
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:40,480
And so I do support what we're moving toward.

1147
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:46,520
I mean, I mean, I'm concerned about the medicinal marijuana aspect of this and us having

1148
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:47,900
that be available.

1149
01:33:49,020 --> 01:33:52,000
And that will continue to work on that, I believe.

1150
01:33:52,900 --> 01:33:57,580
And I also, I know that there are some concerns about, especially in the mountain areas,

1151
01:33:57,880 --> 01:34:00,560
which is a lot of my district and the center runs of valley.

1152
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:02,760
They would like to have a commercial license.

1153
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:10,120
But there's many, many concerns, public safety concerns regarding fire, roadways, and so forth

1154
01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:14,940
that is going to be very difficult for us to meet some of those requirements.

1155
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:19,440
I think to make that happen in a general response.

1156
01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:24,100
But in general, I do support what has been proposed.

1157
01:34:24,540 --> 01:34:28,580
And I thank everyone for their patience and working with this.

1158
01:34:28,580 --> 01:34:33,400
And I do really do appreciate the office for our licensing officer, too.

1159
01:34:33,480 --> 01:34:34,700
Thank you very much.

1160
01:34:35,260 --> 01:34:35,340
Thank you.

1161
01:34:35,340 --> 01:34:35,400
Thank you.

1162
01:34:36,060 --> 01:34:39,420
I think everything has been mentioned here.

1163
01:34:40,260 --> 01:34:40,580
Excuse me.

1164
01:34:41,100 --> 01:34:43,740
I think all the arguments have been mentioned.

1165
01:34:46,300 --> 01:34:49,840
I guess what bothers me is this never stops.

1166
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:55,680
We keep backing up and we keep saying we're going to get rid of another restriction.

1167
01:34:56,060 --> 01:34:57,220
We're going to get rid of this.

1168
01:34:57,220 --> 01:35:06,780
We're going to keep, we've ridden some rules, and we finally have to enforce them.

1169
01:35:07,380 --> 01:35:10,920
I do understand the state requirements,

1170
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:19,220
exactly if you could just clarify it for me here.

1171
01:35:19,220 --> 01:35:34,220
We're allowing, we're going with the state regulation of this, or are we, we're lining with various pieces of the state regulations, specifically with the nursery license and with the processor license.

1172
01:35:35,020 --> 01:35:42,780
We're not adopting other portions of the state regulations by any means. We're just aligning with them on those two aspects.

1173
01:35:44,180 --> 01:35:45,660
So if we're not,

1174
01:35:49,670 --> 01:35:52,090
anyway, let's go ahead and vote.

1175
01:35:53,010 --> 01:35:56,790
Well, before we vote, I want to ask to be figure out the

1176
01:35:56,790 --> 01:35:57,850
step-inational question.

1177
01:35:59,900 --> 01:36:02,700
I find that the state law uses the word greenhouse.

1178
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:04,600
I can't find a definition for it.

1179
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:08,500
I suggest that since we are trying where we can to be consistent with

1180
01:36:08,500 --> 01:36:12,360
state law, that you give us the authority to be consistent with

1181
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:14,440
state law after this meeting.

1182
01:36:14,620 --> 01:36:15,820
I would add that to my motion.

1183
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:38,860
I'm supportive of the motion, and I'm going to call the vote, so just to be clear the motion before us is the staff recommendation with the additional direction for county council to make sure our greenhouse definition is compliant with state definitions or consistent with state definitions.

1184
01:36:38,860 --> 01:36:42,200
Okay, all those in favor, please say aye.

1185
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:43,520
Opposed?

1186
01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:45,660
Sorry.

1187
01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:46,500
Okay.

1188
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:48,400
So that passed three to two.

1189
01:36:49,420 --> 01:36:56,560
And we will now move on to our 1030 scheduled item, which is the Santa Cruz County Board of Directors

1190
01:36:56,560 --> 01:37:00,680
Flood Control and Water Conservation District zone five.

1191
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:02,660
And I'll ask the clerk.

1192
01:37:04,440 --> 01:37:04,840
Sorry.

1193
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:13,180
It was three to two with supervisor, friend and cat, but now we're moving to Zone 5 and I'm

1194
01:37:13,180 --> 01:37:14,100
asked you to call the role.

1195
01:37:37,500 --> 01:37:39,900
Do you want to call us on five roll?

1196
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:41,520
Direct?

1197
01:37:47,930 --> 01:37:48,990
Direct, really, a poll.

1198
01:37:49,290 --> 01:37:49,430
Here.

1199
01:37:49,830 --> 01:37:50,050
Friend?

1200
01:37:50,990 --> 01:37:51,310
Cabinet.

1201
01:37:52,070 --> 01:37:53,290
Excuse me, chair, sir.

1202
01:37:55,010 --> 01:37:55,410
And committee?

1203
01:37:55,750 --> 01:37:55,970
Here.

1204
01:37:57,510 --> 01:37:59,190
Are there any late additions to the agenda today?

1205
01:37:59,430 --> 01:37:59,970
No, they're not.

1206
01:38:02,250 --> 01:38:05,090
So, any additions to lesions or corrections?

1207
01:38:06,130 --> 01:38:09,470
Okay. Let's move on to item number one, which is oral communication.

1208
01:38:09,470 --> 01:38:11,210
It's an opportunity for members of public

1209
01:38:11,210 --> 01:38:13,530
the speakers about items that are within the purview of

1210
01:38:13,530 --> 01:38:15,350
zone five, but not on today's agenda.

1211
01:38:26,230 --> 01:38:27,810
Good morning, Becky Steinburner.

1212
01:38:28,090 --> 01:38:29,090
I have a request.

1213
01:38:30,310 --> 01:38:33,450
I try to attend these flood control meetings,

1214
01:38:33,810 --> 01:38:36,070
but it is always somewhat of an enigma to me.

1215
01:38:36,150 --> 01:38:38,150
What zones cover what areas?

1216
01:38:38,430 --> 01:38:40,590
They are never described in your agenda.

1217
01:38:41,090 --> 01:38:44,090
And it would be very helpful to members of the public

1218
01:38:44,090 --> 01:38:47,150
if they could understand what these areas,

1219
01:38:47,150 --> 01:38:50,150
these specific zones are.

1220
01:38:51,250 --> 01:38:54,350
I would like some clarification, I believe, that is our own five-covers

1221
01:38:54,350 --> 01:38:55,010
Capitola.

1222
01:38:55,290 --> 01:38:55,930
Is that correct?

1223
01:38:56,390 --> 01:38:57,150
Thank you.

1224
01:38:57,450 --> 01:39:02,550
So to that end, I would like to discuss with you a recent appeal

1225
01:39:02,550 --> 01:39:07,530
that I brought before your board, regarding a self-assility

1226
01:39:07,530 --> 01:39:12,990
that will because you didn't take action to stop it,

1227
01:39:12,990 --> 01:39:15,550
be built in the flood zone,

1228
01:39:18,750 --> 01:39:22,570
it will require a block of concrete, basically seven feet high.

1229
01:39:23,030 --> 01:39:31,190
And I want to make clear that the building itself will not be flood-proofed as is required

1230
01:39:31,190 --> 01:39:38,330
by the 50% significant improvement rule because of changes that were made in the project description.

1231
01:39:38,330 --> 01:39:45,910
And that concerns me, especially with the rise in flood levels as climate change models are

1232
01:39:45,910 --> 01:39:46,690
being predicted.

1233
01:39:47,530 --> 01:39:52,230
And I really think that you're bored and the planning director need to take a look at these

1234
01:39:52,230 --> 01:40:00,590
policies and make sure that the public will be protected in the event of increasing flood

1235
01:40:00,590 --> 01:40:02,590
in the Reparion Zone.

1236
01:40:03,230 --> 01:40:04,030
Thank you very much.

1237
01:40:07,590 --> 01:40:08,310
Thank you.

1238
01:40:09,070 --> 01:40:13,650
to move on to item number two, which is to approve zone five minutes.

1239
01:40:15,410 --> 01:40:19,650
I'll make a motion to approve in a quick comment that to direct a much

1240
01:40:19,650 --> 01:40:24,550
out of that we had talked about the possibility of coming back with consent items associated with

1241
01:40:24,550 --> 01:40:28,270
zone five and seeing that happen. A number of these items appear to be things that could be on a

1242
01:40:28,270 --> 01:40:33,110
consent calendar. I'll just recommend it action on the minutes with that additional

1243
01:40:33,110 --> 01:40:33,390
comment.

1244
01:40:34,670 --> 01:40:38,410
So, we have a motion, and we have a second, all those in favor, please say aye.

1245
01:40:38,570 --> 01:40:39,010
Aye.

1246
01:40:39,490 --> 01:40:40,530
That passes unanimously.

1247
01:40:41,290 --> 01:40:44,670
Item 3, as the Board of Directors of the Santa Cruz County Flood Control

1248
01:40:44,670 --> 01:40:51,010
Water Conservation District, so in 5, except in 5, the third quarter report for the fiscal year

1249
01:40:51,590 --> 01:40:57,030
2018 and 19, so in 5, expansion infrastructure revenue has outlined minimum random of the district

1250
01:40:57,030 --> 01:41:04,510
Thank you, Chair and Directors, Matt Machado, the Zone 5 District Engineer.

1251
01:41:05,490 --> 01:41:09,410
The item before you is the Zone 5 Extension Construction Revenue for our third quarter.

1252
01:41:09,810 --> 01:41:15,070
The recommended action is to accept and file this report and I can answer any questions you

1253
01:41:15,070 --> 01:41:16,030
may have.

1254
01:41:16,690 --> 01:41:18,230
Any questions from the Board members?

1255
01:41:18,970 --> 01:41:19,990
Any public comment?

1256
01:41:21,070 --> 01:41:22,250
Seeing none, I'll bring it back to the Board.

1257
01:41:22,330 --> 01:41:23,110
We'll recommend it.

1258
01:41:23,110 --> 01:41:27,570
The motion by Leopold, second by friend, all those in favor, please say aye.

1259
01:41:27,570 --> 01:41:28,050
Aye.

1260
01:41:28,550 --> 01:41:29,690
That passes unanimously.

1261
01:41:30,650 --> 01:41:34,790
Item number four is as Board of Directors of the Santa Cruz County Flood Control,

1262
01:41:34,970 --> 01:41:40,010
Water Conservation Zone five, Consider Resolution, Accepting Uninticipated Revenue of

1263
01:41:40,010 --> 01:41:44,990
$56,000 into the Santa Cruz County Zone five budget as outlined.

1264
01:41:45,890 --> 01:41:46,890
Thank you.

1265
01:41:46,890 --> 01:41:47,410
Thank you, Director.

1266
01:41:47,870 --> 01:41:49,170
Thank you Chairman and Directors.

1267
01:41:49,170 --> 01:41:55,490
The item before you is revenues that resulted from increased plan review and permit processing

1268
01:41:55,490 --> 01:41:59,310
application fees for land development projects in zone five.

1269
01:41:59,310 --> 01:42:03,550
The recommended action is to adopt the resolution accepting and appropriating and

1270
01:42:03,550 --> 01:42:09,610
attestigated revenue of $56,000 into Santa Cruz County flood control and water conservation

1271
01:42:09,610 --> 01:42:14,810
district zones five expansion construction budget and with that I can answer any questions

1272
01:42:14,810 --> 01:42:15,390
even now.

1273
01:42:15,510 --> 01:42:16,350
Move to approve.

1274
01:42:16,650 --> 01:42:16,850
Hold on.

1275
01:42:16,850 --> 01:42:18,110
Is there any public comment?

1276
01:42:18,510 --> 01:42:20,750
Seeing not only about the board, we've got a motion by CAPIT.

1277
01:42:21,550 --> 01:42:21,990
Second.

1278
01:42:22,110 --> 01:42:24,390
Second by friend, all of us in favor, please say aye.

1279
01:42:25,350 --> 01:42:26,370
That passes unanimously.

1280
01:42:27,290 --> 01:42:31,310
On item number five, which is, as the board of directors of zone five,

1281
01:42:31,470 --> 01:42:35,650
consider accepting and approving the proposed budget for 2019, 2020,

1282
01:42:36,150 --> 01:42:38,490
zone five and the zone five expansion and circulation budgets

1283
01:42:38,490 --> 01:42:40,890
as outlined in the memorandum of the district engineer.

1284
01:42:42,210 --> 01:42:43,330
Thank you, chair and directors.

1285
01:42:43,610 --> 01:42:45,790
I do want to highlight a few items in our budget

1286
01:42:45,790 --> 01:42:53,050
our proposed budget this year. Under our Zone 5 Master Plan update, we've shown a proposed

1287
01:42:53,050 --> 01:43:00,330
budget of just $70,000. We are hoping to get a better number for you. And as part of

1288
01:43:00,330 --> 01:43:04,930
our final budget, we will be recommending that number to go to $600 and $70,000. We'll

1289
01:43:04,930 --> 01:43:12,270
be pulling that $600 additional $600,000 from our capital reserves. We believe that that's

1290
01:43:12,270 --> 01:43:16,390
going to be a budgetary number for the master planning effort.

1291
01:43:17,030 --> 01:43:21,750
We hope to bring an item to you in the next three months to release an RFP for that effort.

1292
01:43:21,810 --> 01:43:26,970
This is a critical effort for so-and-five so that we can better understand our deficiencies

1293
01:43:26,970 --> 01:43:31,470
and look at a better streamlined process for development in the area.

1294
01:43:32,250 --> 01:43:33,950
And so I just alert you to that.

1295
01:43:33,970 --> 01:43:36,810
It's not shown here in your proposed, which is okay.

1296
01:43:36,930 --> 01:43:41,810
We'll bring it as part of the final, but I think it's a critical item to share with you.

1297
01:43:41,810 --> 01:43:49,170
With that, the rest of the items are fairly consistent with prior year, and I can answer any questions that you may have.

1298
01:43:49,490 --> 01:43:57,490
The recommended action is to accept and approve the proposed 2019-2020 zone 5 and zone 5 expansion construction budgets.

1299
01:43:59,190 --> 01:44:04,950
All right. Are there any questions? Seeing none. Is there any public comment? Seeing none? Come back.

1300
01:44:04,950 --> 01:44:10,230
chair. I'll just say I look forward to this additional item being brought forward. I think it will help

1301
01:44:11,130 --> 01:44:21,210
it get some clarity for development projects because right now it's a one-off thing and we don't always know and it creates a lot of

1302
01:44:21,210 --> 01:44:28,950
lack of clarity about what's going on. So I look forward to that item. I would move the budget though as in the recommended actions as suggested here.

1303
01:44:28,950 --> 01:44:33,250
Motion by Leopold. Second by friend, all those in favor, please say aye.

1304
01:44:34,190 --> 01:44:35,810
Aye. Opposed? That passes unanimously.

1305
01:44:37,970 --> 01:44:44,830
That adjourns are zone five meeting. We'll now come back to our regular Board of Supervisors meeting and we will

1306
01:44:45,350 --> 01:44:50,590
take up item number eight, which is a public hearing to consider confirming the Establish Benefit Assessment

1307
01:44:50,590 --> 01:44:56,970
Service Charge for County Service Area 12 wastewater management for fiscal years 2019-2020

1308
01:44:56,970 --> 01:44:59,130
as outlined in the Director of Health Services.

1309
01:45:01,460 --> 01:45:06,900
Good morning. I'm John Recker, Water Resources Division Director and the Health Services Agency.

1310
01:45:07,580 --> 01:45:17,820
We're recommending that you adopt the service charge reports for the CSA-12 fees, which support various activities for management of onsite

1311
01:45:17,820 --> 01:45:21,200
So, it's treatment systems, septic systems in the county.

1312
01:45:22,160 --> 01:45:26,140
The fee levels are unchanged from previous years.

1313
01:45:27,100 --> 01:45:36,520
We're recommending $6.90 for CSA-12, $18.54 for the San Lorenzo Valley, CSA-12A, and a range

1314
01:45:38,300 --> 01:45:43,580
of $101 to $501 for the non-standard systems.

1315
01:45:43,580 --> 01:45:50,780
We're recommending that your board opened the public hearing to hear any comments or protests.

1316
01:45:51,320 --> 01:45:59,240
Close the public hearing and adopt the attached resolution, improving the assessment service charges for CSA-12.

1317
01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:01,060
And I'd be happy to answer any questions.

1318
01:46:01,820 --> 01:46:02,720
Are there any questions?

1319
01:46:03,380 --> 01:46:04,520
Let's open the public hearing.

1320
01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:15,380
Thank you, Becky Steinbriner.

1321
01:46:15,940 --> 01:46:16,880
I live in the rural area.

1322
01:46:17,060 --> 01:46:19,220
We have a septic tank and system.

1323
01:46:19,220 --> 01:46:30,300
And I really appreciate this service to the county's world residents because it maintains good water quality in our systems water in our county's waterways.

1324
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:36,880
This is especially critical in the San Lorenzo Valley where Santa Cruz City takes some of it.

1325
01:46:37,140 --> 01:46:49,200
It's a good amount of it's portable water supply and is looking to expand its place of use say delivery of water to the mid county area in water transfer.

1326
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:54,780
to come up with a regional solution for groundwater over draft in the mid-County area.

1327
01:46:55,360 --> 01:47:01,100
So I'm very supportive of this service and I want to thank the Environmental Health for making it happen.

1328
01:47:01,820 --> 01:47:02,560
Thank you.

1329
01:47:02,820 --> 01:47:03,660
Thank you.

1330
01:47:03,880 --> 01:47:06,260
Seeing no other speakers, I'll close the public hearing.

1331
01:47:06,440 --> 01:47:07,580
Bring it back to the board for action.

1332
01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:09,180
Second.

1333
01:47:09,440 --> 01:47:11,060
Motion by McPherson.

1334
01:47:11,380 --> 01:47:12,080
Second by Leah Pold.

1335
01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:14,020
All those in favor, please say aye.

1336
01:47:14,840 --> 01:47:15,220
Opposed.

1337
01:47:15,300 --> 01:47:16,340
That passes unanimously.

1338
01:47:17,260 --> 01:47:18,500
Moving on to item number nine,

1339
01:47:18,500 --> 01:47:19,320
which is the public hearing.

1340
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:24,340
You can consider county service area 48 and county service area 4, fire protection assessment

1341
01:47:24,340 --> 01:47:25,440
service charge report.

1342
01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:31,320
For fiscal year 1920, a doctor resolution confirming the service charge reports for CSA 4 and

1343
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:34,680
CSA 48 as recommended by the Director of General Services.

1344
01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:38,900
Let me ask if there's anyone have any questions.

1345
01:47:40,500 --> 01:47:41,800
Let's open the public hearing.

1346
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:42,820
Would anyone like to speak?

1347
01:47:42,820 --> 01:48:01,780
You know, I just want to question on CSA 48, I just want to point out that there's going to be some real financial challenges coming for that in the measure that just barely lost several years ago, but that's something that I think is going to need a good look at and maybe they would be commenting on that briefly as well.

1348
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:05,020
But I'm kind of sort of a serious 48 in particular.

1349
01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:06,880
Thank you.

1350
01:48:07,140 --> 01:48:08,420
Now, well up in the public hearing.

1351
01:48:11,360 --> 01:48:15,260
Thank you, Becky Steinrunner, resident of rural optos.

1352
01:48:15,980 --> 01:48:20,280
I really support County Fire, and I really want you to fund it.

1353
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:26,760
I understand what we're talking about today is just cost of living increase, but you've

1354
01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:35,180
got to fund it in a good way, because this county residents, environment, tourism, all depends

1355
01:48:35,180 --> 01:48:38,100
on good fire safety and good fire protection.

1356
01:48:39,060 --> 01:48:48,240
One hundred eight million, eight, proposition 172 brings in so much money,

1357
01:48:48,940 --> 01:48:51,340
18 million dollars every year.

1358
01:48:51,780 --> 01:48:56,440
That was supposed to go to fund some of County Fire.

1359
01:48:56,940 --> 01:48:59,360
Zero goes to County Fire.

1360
01:48:59,920 --> 01:49:04,060
Measure G, the half-cent sales tax was sold to the voters last fall

1361
01:49:04,060 --> 01:49:08,660
when we were all worried about fire as funding, fire.

1362
01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:11,980
I've submitted a public records act request

1363
01:49:11,980 --> 01:49:14,540
where that measure table money will go.

1364
01:49:14,700 --> 01:49:17,520
Zero will go to county fire.

1365
01:49:18,280 --> 01:49:19,480
Now this has got to stop.

1366
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:21,980
And I understand that you're bringing something

1367
01:49:21,980 --> 01:49:25,540
to the voters with a paper ballot to increase things.

1368
01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:29,080
But I'm here to ask you, as a rural resident,

1369
01:49:29,080 --> 01:49:33,620
Please fund county fire in a sustainable way.

1370
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:36,160
There's plenty of money coming in.

1371
01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:40,440
All you have to do is give a little piece of that prop 172

1372
01:49:40,440 --> 01:49:44,600
and measure G money to fund county fire and not take it away.

1373
01:49:45,440 --> 01:49:46,240
That's what I'm asking.

1374
01:49:47,780 --> 01:49:48,860
Thank you.

1375
01:49:49,480 --> 01:49:51,920
That closes the public hearing and I'll bring back to the Board

1376
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:53,000
for action.

1377
01:49:53,620 --> 01:49:55,140
We will approval the recommended action.

1378
01:49:55,480 --> 01:49:56,220
Motion by Liverpool.

1379
01:49:56,720 --> 01:49:57,640
Second by McPherson.

1380
01:49:57,640 --> 01:49:59,800
All those in favor, please say aye.

1381
01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:00,780
Aye.

1382
01:50:00,780 --> 01:50:01,160
Opposed?

1383
01:50:01,180 --> 01:50:02,140
That passes unanimously.

1384
01:50:03,100 --> 01:50:06,640
Moving on to item number 10, which is the public hearing to consider the 2019-2020

1385
01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:10,720
Benefit Assessment Service Charge reports for various county service areas.

1386
01:50:10,940 --> 01:50:14,500
Approved the engineering reports for CSA-9A residential lighting.

1387
01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:17,440
And a doctor resolution, confirming the benefit assessment.

1388
01:50:18,140 --> 01:50:22,300
Service charge reports is outlined in the memorandum of the Deputy CAO Director of Public Works.

1389
01:50:22,900 --> 01:50:23,440
Thank you, Chairman.

1390
01:50:23,680 --> 01:50:27,420
Board of Supervisors, Matt Machado, Director of Public Works and Deputy CAO.

1391
01:50:27,420 --> 01:50:35,300
The item before you as a public hearing, this is with regard to CSA 9A. It's a residential lighting district.

1392
01:50:36,240 --> 01:50:39,740
There is a bit of a change this year and it's a really good one. It's positive one.

1393
01:50:39,980 --> 01:50:48,540
The engineers report has increased the scope of services to include additional pedestrian safety improvements.

1394
01:50:48,540 --> 01:51:18,360
And so the report here is for your approval, it does include a public hearing and so the recommended action today is to approve the injured report for CSA-9A, residential lighting, to hold a public hearing to hear objections or protest if any to the proposed 2019-20 benefit assessment and service charge reports for various county service areas and following the public hearing adopt resolution confirming the benefit assessment service charge reports for various county service areas.

1395
01:51:18,540 --> 01:51:22,300
I will add that this report does not include an increase.

1396
01:51:22,420 --> 01:51:23,700
There is no increase in assessment.

1397
01:51:23,980 --> 01:51:25,500
This is just a scope modification.

1398
01:51:26,160 --> 01:51:27,560
I can answer any questions you may have.

1399
01:51:27,940 --> 01:51:28,520
Any questions?

1400
01:51:29,540 --> 01:51:32,740
Well, I'll just say I want to express my appreciation to Mr.

1401
01:51:32,860 --> 01:51:38,500
Mishado and the Public Works staff who have seen this through this chain will really help

1402
01:51:38,500 --> 01:51:44,960
out in something that we hear about all the time, which is safety lighting for crosswalks,

1403
01:51:44,960 --> 01:51:50,580
which could be very expensive in which we have resources that we haven't been able to tap until

1404
01:51:50,580 --> 01:51:52,920
an engineering report was done.

1405
01:51:54,080 --> 01:52:00,980
So I know this was on your list when you came here and you've been dogoted to make sure

1406
01:52:00,980 --> 01:52:05,980
that it gets done and I'm glad we're at this day and I have a number of constituents who

1407
01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:10,980
will be who I just spoke to on Friday night who was saying, once it gonna happen and are

1408
01:52:10,980 --> 01:52:14,860
excited that we're finally making moving forward on this.

1409
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:15,580
Thank you.

1410
01:52:15,700 --> 01:52:16,300
Thank you.

1411
01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:16,540
Thank you.

1412
01:52:16,740 --> 01:52:18,800
I'll open up the public hearing.

1413
01:52:19,960 --> 01:52:22,780
Seeing none, I'll close the public hearing and bring it back to the board for action.

1414
01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:25,160
I will move approval of the recommended action.

1415
01:52:25,580 --> 01:52:28,620
It's got a motion by Leah Paul, then a second by friend, all in favor.

1416
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:29,480
Please say aye.

1417
01:52:30,620 --> 01:52:38,420
Opposed? That passes unanimously. Moving on to item number 11. As a public hearing, consider the 2019-2020 benefit assessment

1418
01:52:38,420 --> 01:52:45,700
charge reports for sanitation county service areas 2, 5, 7, 10, and 20, and adopt a resolution

1419
01:52:46,320 --> 01:52:52,180
confirming the 2019-2020 benefit assessment service charge reports as outlined in a memorandum

1420
01:52:52,180 --> 01:52:57,560
of the Deputy CAO and the Director of Public Works. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Board of Supervisors.

1421
01:52:57,560 --> 01:53:02,960
again, Matt Machado. Thank you for the introduction. I will just add that for all of these

1422
01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:11,420
various CSAs for these sewer districts, we are proposing a moderate increase. It's a CPI

1423
01:53:11,420 --> 01:53:17,600
increase of 4.5% to keep up with the cost of doing business in these sanitation districts.

1424
01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:22,660
With that, the recommended action is to open the public hearing and hear objections or protests

1425
01:53:22,660 --> 01:53:29,540
If any, to the proposed 2019-2020 Benefit Assessment Service Charge Reports for Sanitation County

1426
01:53:29,540 --> 01:53:36,140
Service Series 257-10 and 20, to close the public hearing and to adopt resolutions confirming

1427
01:53:36,140 --> 01:53:40,640
the 1920 Benefit Assessment Service Charge Reports for various Sanitation County

1428
01:53:40,640 --> 01:53:43,260
service areas and with that I can answer any questions you may have.

1429
01:53:43,620 --> 01:53:44,240
Any questions?

1430
01:53:45,160 --> 01:53:46,880
Okay, I'll open the public hearing.

1431
01:53:47,980 --> 01:53:49,760
Seeing none, I'll close the public hearing.

1432
01:53:49,760 --> 01:53:52,200
for you back to the Board for Liberation Action.

1433
01:53:52,380 --> 01:53:53,920
I will move the recommended actions.

1434
01:53:54,700 --> 01:53:56,380
Motion by Leah Poll, second by McPherson,

1435
01:53:56,540 --> 01:53:58,380
all those in favor, please say aye.

1436
01:53:58,740 --> 01:54:00,020
Aye. Opposed?

1437
01:54:00,060 --> 01:54:01,120
That passes unanimously.

1438
01:54:01,960 --> 01:54:04,480
Moving on, item number 12 is public hearing

1439
01:54:04,480 --> 01:54:06,120
to hear objections or protests of any

1440
01:54:06,120 --> 01:54:09,300
to the proposed 2019-2020 benefit assessment

1441
01:54:09,300 --> 01:54:10,740
rates for county service areas.

1442
01:54:11,220 --> 01:54:16,080
15, 18, 26, 42, 58, and 59.

1443
01:54:16,700 --> 01:54:19,160
Consider submittal of all ballots for the proposed assessment.

1444
01:54:19,160 --> 01:54:25,540
and continue the public hearing to June 25th, 2019 to allow for tabulation and certification

1445
01:54:25,540 --> 01:54:29,400
as outlined in the memorandum of the day of PCA on the Director of Public Works.

1446
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:32,760
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Board of Supervisors, again, Madam Shauto.

1447
01:54:33,380 --> 01:54:34,380
Thank you for the introduction.

1448
01:54:35,200 --> 01:54:38,780
The increases, as proposed in these CSAs are driven by the people.

1449
01:54:39,260 --> 01:54:45,100
When the people request additional services, we support them in their request of increases.

1450
01:54:45,100 --> 01:54:50,740
That is before you, and as you outlined, the recommended action is open the public hearing

1451
01:54:50,740 --> 01:54:52,160
to your objections or protests.

1452
01:54:52,620 --> 01:54:58,220
If any, to the proposed benefit assessments for those listed CSAs to request a submittal

1453
01:54:58,220 --> 01:55:04,160
of all ballots for the proposed 1920 benefit assessment, assessments for those CSAs and to continue

1454
01:55:04,160 --> 01:55:09,960
the public hearing to June 25, 2019, to allow for tabulation and certification of the ballots,

1455
01:55:10,320 --> 01:55:12,320
but that I can answer any questions you may have.

1456
01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:22,540
Any questions? I'll open the public hearing. I'll see them. I'll close the public hearing and bring it back to the board of deliberation action, but I will remove the recommended actions motion by the uphold.

1457
01:55:23,620 --> 01:55:29,340
Second by friend all in favor, please say aye. I oppose that passes unanimously.

1458
01:55:31,420 --> 01:55:38,560
Item number 13 as Board of Directors of the Davenport County Sanitation District, a public hearing and proposed ordnancement ordinances,

1459
01:55:38,560 --> 01:55:44,640
amending the district code to establish the 2019-2020 water and sewer service charges scheduled

1460
01:55:44,640 --> 01:55:49,160
public hearing on August 6, 2019 to consider the service charge reports and take related

1461
01:55:49,160 --> 01:55:53,080
actions as outlined in a memorandum of the district engineer, Mr. Adler.

1462
01:55:53,540 --> 01:55:55,680
Good morning, Mr. Chair and Board of Supervisors.

1463
01:55:56,160 --> 01:55:59,340
Kent Adler, Assistant Director of Special Services with the Department of Public Works.

1464
01:56:00,180 --> 01:56:04,800
On April 23, 2019, the boards set today as the date of the public hearing to consider

1465
01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:07,840
an ordinance which establishes the water and sewer service charges for

1466
01:56:07,840 --> 01:56:13,140
to have an important county sanitation district that will become effective on July 1, 2019.

1467
01:56:14,040 --> 01:56:19,020
The water service charges are being proposed with an overall 4.4% increase with an individual

1468
01:56:19,020 --> 01:56:25,460
maximum of 4.5%. The sewer service charges are being proposed with an overall 4.2% increase

1469
01:56:25,460 --> 01:56:30,860
with an individual maximum 4.8%. The increase is necessary to adequately fund the maintenance

1470
01:56:30,860 --> 01:56:35,680
and operations as well as capital improvements for the districts. For the district, we're recommending

1471
01:56:35,680 --> 01:56:40,240
that the board takes the following actions. And there's a number of them. Number one, open the

1472
01:56:40,240 --> 01:56:45,000
public hearing to consider the ordinance. Eight number 89, the Mending District Code, Title

1473
01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:54,480
3, Chapter 3.08, Article 3, Section 3.08, Point 1, 6, 0, through, 3.08, 1, 8, 0, 4, water

1474
01:56:54,480 --> 01:57:00,400
service charges. And ordinance number 90, the Mending District Code, Title 4, Chapter 4.08,

1475
01:57:00,400 --> 01:57:11,340
Article 3, sections 4.08, 0.160 through 4.0810 for service charges and close the public hearing.

1476
01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:16,060
Two approved and concept ordinances, number 89 and 90.

1477
01:57:16,940 --> 01:57:20,380
Three, scheduling the ordinances for final adoption on the next available agenda.

1478
01:57:21,480 --> 01:57:24,440
Four, set Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 9 a.m.

1479
01:57:24,440 --> 01:57:28,660
or thereafter as the date and time for a public hearing on the service charge reports.

1480
01:57:29,000 --> 01:57:32,600
On the service charge reports and five direct the clerk of the board to publish the notice

1481
01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:36,120
of public hearing once a week for two weeks prior to the hearing and the newspaper of

1482
01:57:36,120 --> 01:57:38,720
general circulation and I'm available for any questions.

1483
01:57:39,540 --> 01:57:39,840
Thank you.

1484
01:57:39,980 --> 01:57:41,100
Are there any questions?

1485
01:57:42,280 --> 01:57:42,660
Seeing none.

1486
01:57:42,880 --> 01:57:44,480
I'll open the public hearing,

1487
01:57:46,540 --> 01:57:48,220
seeing no one to speak.

1488
01:57:48,460 --> 01:57:52,120
I will close the public hearing quick note to folks who are waiting.

1489
01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:55,700
We're going to do item number 14, we're going to take a 15 minute break and then come back

1490
01:57:55,700 --> 01:57:58,640
to the remainder of the items this morning.

1491
01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:04,620
So if you want to take a longer break, feel free right now.

1492
01:58:06,020 --> 01:58:09,560
But so on item number 13, I'm looking for a motion.

1493
01:58:09,980 --> 01:58:11,100
I would move the recommendations.

1494
01:58:13,180 --> 01:58:13,400
All right.

1495
01:58:13,520 --> 01:58:16,760
We've got a motion by McPherson, a second by Leopold,

1496
01:58:16,820 --> 01:58:18,860
all those in favor, please say aye.

1497
01:58:19,780 --> 01:58:21,200
Opposed, that passes unanimously.

1498
01:58:22,040 --> 01:58:24,300
On item number 14 is the Board of Directors

1499
01:58:24,300 --> 01:58:29,380
as the Freedom County Sanitation District, public hearing needs that are 2019-2020.

1500
01:58:30,180 --> 01:58:36,140
Freedom County Sanitation District, sewer charges, reports, and resolution confirming 2019-2020.

1501
01:58:36,440 --> 01:58:39,480
sewer service charge report is outlined in the memorandum of the District and Chair.

1502
01:58:40,120 --> 01:58:40,500
Mr. Adler?

1503
01:58:41,140 --> 01:58:41,960
Good morning again.

1504
01:58:43,020 --> 01:58:48,800
On May 19, 2019, the Board approved the 2019-2020 service charges for the Freedom

1505
01:58:48,800 --> 01:58:52,940
County Sanitation District, and set today as the date of the public hearing on the 2019

1506
01:58:52,940 --> 01:58:59,020
service service charge report. In order to complete the 2019-2020 service

1507
01:58:59,020 --> 01:59:02,500
charge repeat proceedings, the one that we necessary for board to open the

1508
01:59:02,500 --> 01:59:07,400
public hearing, take testimony, consider objections, and protests. If any to the

1509
01:59:07,400 --> 01:59:10,440
service service charge report and at the conclusion of the public hearing,

1510
01:59:10,560 --> 01:59:13,980
adopt the resolution confirming the service charge report for the Freedom

1511
01:59:13,980 --> 01:59:17,720
County Sanitation District, and I'm available for any questions. Any questions?

1512
01:59:18,460 --> 01:59:23,800
We'll open the public hearing, seeing no one, we'll close the public hearing and bring

1513
01:59:23,800 --> 01:59:24,840
back to the board for action.

1514
01:59:24,840 --> 01:59:25,460
And the actions.

1515
01:59:25,900 --> 01:59:27,260
Motion by Leopold.

1516
01:59:28,100 --> 01:59:28,820
Second by friend.

1517
01:59:29,220 --> 01:59:31,140
All those in favor, please say aye.

1518
01:59:32,100 --> 01:59:32,580
Opposed?

1519
01:59:32,660 --> 01:59:33,660
That passes unanimously.

1520
01:59:34,360 --> 01:59:35,700
We're now going to recess to 11.

1521
01:59:36,720 --> 01:59:39,880
20, where we'll come back and continue our morning agenda.

1522
01:59:39,880 --> 01:59:40,580
We

1523
01:59:43,500 --> 01:59:44,720
were not going to get to that to the F.

1524
01:59:47,310 --> 01:59:48,390
We got one.

1525
01:59:50,670 --> 01:59:52,030
We got one, just coming in.

1526
01:59:52,930 --> 01:59:55,310
I just want to tell you, I think Joe will.

1527
01:59:55,550 --> 01:59:55,910
Toby got it.

1528
01:59:57,350 --> 01:59:57,430
Yeah.

1529
01:59:57,470 --> 01:59:58,710
We can get there.

1530
01:59:59,390 --> 01:59:59,830
All right, I'll just.

1531
02:00:11,190 --> 02:00:34,330
All right, and we'll re-camine. Thank you. And we're back and we're moving on to item number 15, which is to consider an ordinance

1532
02:00:34,330 --> 02:00:35,670
of the county clerk.

1533
02:00:36,010 --> 02:00:36,390
Hello.

1534
02:00:36,890 --> 02:00:37,250
Hi.

1535
02:00:37,430 --> 02:00:38,970
Gail Paloran, Santa Cruz County Clerk.

1536
02:00:39,750 --> 02:00:44,030
And this ordinance would basically align our county ordinance with state law.

1537
02:00:44,470 --> 02:00:47,630
Aligning us with the deadlines for filing the campaign statements.

1538
02:00:48,210 --> 02:00:50,110
And as well as the statement of organization.

1539
02:00:51,870 --> 02:00:51,890
Great.

1540
02:00:52,210 --> 02:00:54,310
Are there any questions, Mr. Cabinet?

1541
02:00:56,770 --> 02:01:01,390
I see on there at raises from 400 to 500 from individuals.

1542
02:01:01,390 --> 02:01:09,450
I didn't see anything that limits unions or businesses from any limit at all.

1543
02:01:09,970 --> 02:01:11,690
So that section was taken out.

1544
02:01:12,370 --> 02:01:13,710
That was all taken out.

1545
02:01:13,710 --> 02:01:14,350
That was taken out.

1546
02:01:14,350 --> 02:01:19,570
Is there any limit on a business or a pack?

1547
02:01:19,710 --> 02:01:22,330
No, because we basically aligned that with court case.

1548
02:01:23,130 --> 02:01:28,670
So I'm going to hypothetically then they could give ten thousand dollars if they wanted to.

1549
02:01:28,830 --> 02:01:29,590
There is no limit.

1550
02:01:29,590 --> 02:01:38,610
Okay. I mean, why the drastic change? Why are we going from $1,000 to $1,000 to, we decided

1551
02:01:38,610 --> 02:01:44,210
to go ahead and align it with what was currently happening in the courts in the law and the

1552
02:01:44,210 --> 02:01:49,470
Plutachary Form Act. Okay, but nobody's challenging us? Not that I know it.

1553
02:01:49,790 --> 02:01:55,810
Right. Okay. So, I'm a supervisor, Captain. I share some of your concerns.

1554
02:01:55,810 --> 02:02:06,110
You know, I think one of the things that has kept Santa Cruz election politics rooted in the

1555
02:02:06,110 --> 02:02:11,050
community is that we've had good campaign finance restrictions, and I appreciate the work

1556
02:02:11,050 --> 02:02:18,950
that Ms. Pellarand does every day and the way she sports community and bring some changes

1557
02:02:18,950 --> 02:02:25,290
that align with state regulations makes sense, but I think here in Santa Cruz, we should have

1558
02:02:25,290 --> 02:02:36,070
a higher standard of the campaign process than other places, and our campaign restrictions

1559
02:02:36,070 --> 02:02:42,750
has been for a long time, probably over four decades, that we had a contribution limit,

1560
02:02:43,530 --> 02:02:49,570
And we didn't allow businesses to contribute and we had limits on how much political actions

1561
02:02:49,570 --> 02:02:51,330
committee could be.

1562
02:02:51,550 --> 02:02:55,030
And I think we should keep those limits.

1563
02:02:56,270 --> 02:03:05,990
And I, you know, the section 8.04.050, I think that we should keep that that has our restrictions

1564
02:03:05,990 --> 02:03:10,110
on business and labor contribution limits.

1565
02:03:10,630 --> 02:03:20,290
I also think that we should keep the notification requirements lower, you know, it has been

1566
02:03:20,290 --> 02:03:26,710
for a long time as someone contributes to $1,000 or more, that they have to be noticed

1567
02:03:26,710 --> 02:03:27,910
that they have to file a forum.

1568
02:03:28,510 --> 02:03:34,350
This would raise another piece in here that would raise the $2,000, I think, that we should

1569
02:03:34,350 --> 02:03:36,630
maintain those limits, because those limits are helpful.

1570
02:03:36,630 --> 02:03:42,790
So if we look to our neighboring county in Monterey County, the lack of limits have changed

1571
02:03:42,790 --> 02:03:50,650
the nature of local elections and in my last re-election campaign, I spent $35,000, but

1572
02:03:50,650 --> 02:03:53,730
Jane Parker spent close to a half million dollars.

1573
02:03:54,890 --> 02:03:58,830
That won't be a good change for politics here in Santa Cruz.

1574
02:03:59,290 --> 02:04:02,810
It'll change the nature of politics in Santa Cruz.

1575
02:04:03,670 --> 02:04:05,750
I'm fine doing whatever the will of the board is.

1576
02:04:05,830 --> 02:04:07,370
I know you're doing the best you can.

1577
02:04:07,870 --> 02:04:08,150
Thank you.

1578
02:04:08,170 --> 02:04:09,250
Just trying to keep it consistent.

1579
02:04:09,570 --> 02:04:12,250
The limit, the individual limits will go up to 500.

1580
02:04:12,750 --> 02:04:16,390
And then every two years, they'll increase by $25 beginning in 2022.

1581
02:04:16,970 --> 02:04:18,450
It's the other pieces filled into this.

1582
02:04:19,070 --> 02:04:20,510
But we still have the problem.

1583
02:04:21,130 --> 02:04:25,350
What I'm worried about is we've become like Santa Clara County,

1584
02:04:26,050 --> 02:04:27,330
and also Alameda County.

1585
02:04:27,490 --> 02:04:29,550
I believe the few years back.

1586
02:04:29,550 --> 02:04:38,610
to tell me the county had one candidate spent $2 million for a supervizorial seat and the

1587
02:04:38,610 --> 02:04:48,050
one she was running against spent $1.5 million. And then Santa Clara County we had one

1588
02:04:48,050 --> 02:04:55,690
about four or five years ago where it was in the millions of dollars also. So Santa Cruz is definitely

1589
02:04:55,690 --> 02:04:59,490
We're actually one of just 15 of the 58 counties that have limits at all.

1590
02:04:59,970 --> 02:05:05,010
And it gives too much influence to the people with a lot of money.

1591
02:05:05,070 --> 02:05:05,250
Gotcha.

1592
02:05:07,130 --> 02:05:07,790
So anyway,

1593
02:05:10,230 --> 02:05:15,970
are you going to John and you saying that one stay with the 1,000?

1594
02:05:16,830 --> 02:05:25,670
Yeah, I would recommend that we keep Section 8.04.050, which is currently, which is about

1595
02:05:25,670 --> 02:05:32,350
business and labor union contribution limitations, and the other part that I would just change

1596
02:05:32,350 --> 02:05:39,350
is a notification piece. I'm just looking to see whether it is. I think it's in 8.04.070.

1597
02:05:39,930 --> 02:05:44,430
So the original statement of organization, like what qualifies you as committee, because current

1598
02:05:44,430 --> 02:05:55,650
law has that at 2,000 that triggers you as having to file a 410 and you want to keep it out of

1599
02:05:55,650 --> 02:06:02,030
office for clearing up something that happened during my campaign, I did get a contribution

1600
02:06:02,030 --> 02:06:10,270
from a pack for $1,500, which was good news when I got it, but then I realized that it

1601
02:06:10,270 --> 02:06:17,770
was over the limit. I talked to your office that I called FPPC or whatever, and they said

1602
02:06:17,770 --> 02:06:23,730
basically I had to give it back, which I did. And then by the time they sent me a check

1603
02:06:23,730 --> 02:06:30,930
for $1,000, it was July 1st, it was past the June election.

1604
02:06:31,810 --> 02:06:38,090
So then I was stuck, I can only get one contribution rather than two.

1605
02:06:39,130 --> 02:06:43,950
So anyway, I lived with it, and I think it's good.

1606
02:06:45,390 --> 02:06:45,610
Okay.

1607
02:06:46,190 --> 02:06:50,110
I just also want to thank County Council for all the work they did on this day and I, Jason and

1608
02:06:50,110 --> 02:06:52,870
David, they did a tremendous job putting all this together for us.

1609
02:06:52,870 --> 02:06:56,030
Thank you. So first let me see if there's any public comment.

1610
02:06:57,690 --> 02:06:59,350
I see none. I'll bring it back to the board.

1611
02:06:59,910 --> 02:07:05,870
Well, I would ask that this come back to us with the change in.

1612
02:07:05,910 --> 02:07:07,730
We get the number one more time.

1613
02:07:07,850 --> 02:07:14,410
8.04.0.050, which is maintaining the language that's there.

1614
02:07:14,410 --> 02:07:26,250
and the reporting requirements in 8.04.070, just so you know, super, as supervisor

1615
02:07:26,250 --> 02:07:29,770
cap it and the

1616
02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:39,500
And it's of $400 to $500, and the escalator every two years of $25, I'm not suggesting change.

1617
02:07:40,400 --> 02:07:44,100
Unless there's a will of the board to keep it that the way this is.

1618
02:07:45,200 --> 02:07:48,480
The last time we raised it was in 2009.

1619
02:07:50,760 --> 02:07:59,100
I checked, I used my calculator, my inflation calculator, now is available, and to keep

1620
02:07:59,100 --> 02:08:06,000
The same buying power for $400, it would be, you need to spend $476 from 2009.

1621
02:08:06,880 --> 02:08:13,900
So I was the first concerned about it, and then if we have those $25 piece, we probably

1622
02:08:13,900 --> 02:08:15,040
keep up with inflation.

1623
02:08:15,700 --> 02:08:15,720
Yes.

1624
02:08:16,160 --> 02:08:16,780
That's the intent.

1625
02:08:17,780 --> 02:08:17,940
Okay.

1626
02:08:17,940 --> 02:08:19,120
So we have all second.

1627
02:08:19,280 --> 02:08:20,040
And a second.

1628
02:08:20,320 --> 02:08:21,360
Is that an amendment?

1629
02:08:22,980 --> 02:08:23,200
No.

1630
02:08:23,200 --> 02:08:29,960
But I was just pointing out that I wasn't changing that individual contribution limit.

1631
02:08:31,560 --> 02:08:34,360
And so, unless there's a will, the board did do that.

1632
02:08:34,740 --> 02:08:43,060
I'm supporting, I'm asking the motion, I supported, I think, that I've been asked a lot about our campaign finance program here,

1633
02:08:43,160 --> 02:08:48,060
and as a model across the state, I think that there's a sense across the country that, as I'm doing influence,

1634
02:08:48,060 --> 02:08:52,400
and they're absolutely correct. I think that moving the number up in the individual contribution

1635
02:08:52,400 --> 02:08:56,680
limit, by the way, puts us in line with a couple other counties, we're currently the lowest

1636
02:08:56,680 --> 02:09:00,700
or one of the lowest in the state. But I think that the bigger concern isn't the individual

1637
02:09:00,700 --> 02:09:06,160
contribution limit at $500. The bigger concern is clearly an unlimited amount of money being

1638
02:09:06,160 --> 02:09:10,340
able to be contributed by business and political action committees, which, as Supervisor

1639
02:09:10,340 --> 02:09:18,040
we pulled noted in some of our neighboring counties, people are cutting checks in the six

1640
02:09:18,040 --> 02:09:23,600
appropriate. So I think that we should hold strong with our campaign finance if it's in the

1641
02:09:23,600 --> 02:09:30,000
values of our community. It's much more of a grassroots proposal and so I'll second the motion.

1642
02:09:30,800 --> 02:09:36,460
Okay. So we have a motion and we have a second. All those in favor please say aye.

1643
02:09:37,780 --> 02:09:40,680
Opposed that passes unanimously. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

1644
02:09:42,340 --> 02:09:47,240
Item number 60 is a presentation of key findings of the regional farm worker housing study

1645
02:09:47,240 --> 02:09:52,500
and action plans for the Swedish Valley, and Power of Valley, and endorse goals and actions

1646
02:09:52,500 --> 02:09:56,640
that would increase farmer work or housing within the unincorporated area as outlined

1647
02:09:56,640 --> 02:09:58,340
in the memorandum of the planet director.

1648
02:09:59,160 --> 02:10:01,940
We have Ms. Conway here to present to us today.

1649
02:10:09,790 --> 02:10:14,830
Morning Board, Julie Conway, Housing Manager with the Planning Department, and please to be

1650
02:10:14,830 --> 02:10:18,350
able to talk to you this morning about farm worker housing ever so briefly.

1651
02:10:19,790 --> 02:10:22,850
As you know, farming was Santa Cruz County's first industry.

1652
02:10:22,850 --> 02:10:26,310
It continues to play a central role in the economy,

1653
02:10:27,050 --> 02:10:30,790
protecting agricultural land and preserving the viability of the industry

1654
02:10:30,790 --> 02:10:33,690
is a foundational responsibility of the county.

1655
02:10:34,330 --> 02:10:39,110
The industry is suffering dramatic impacts as a result of the shortage and expense of housing,

1656
02:10:39,570 --> 02:10:41,790
making it difficult for farmers to find workers.

1657
02:10:44,360 --> 02:10:48,520
Knowing this, the county was the first jurisdiction to join the city of Selenus

1658
02:10:48,520 --> 02:10:53,300
when they initiated a farm or housing study in order to better understand the problem

1659
02:10:53,300 --> 02:10:56,840
and identify approaches that could help to address it.

1660
02:10:57,120 --> 02:11:00,820
A few key findings of the study finished in 2018 include

1661
02:11:00,820 --> 02:11:04,340
that there is a severe shortage of housing for farm workers.

1662
02:11:04,920 --> 02:11:10,500
A majority of farmers interviewed said labor shortage is the main challenge to their success.

1663
02:11:11,540 --> 02:11:13,880
Shortage of housing is affecting the industry.

1664
02:11:14,720 --> 02:11:17,640
In areas with a high percentage of farm workers,

1665
02:11:18,060 --> 02:11:19,900
there is a high incidence of overcrowding,

1666
02:11:19,900 --> 02:11:23,620
and farm workers are severely overcrowded.

1667
02:11:24,460 --> 02:11:28,600
The majority of workers in agriculture live here year-round,

1668
02:11:29,140 --> 02:11:31,540
and they live in larger than average households.

1669
02:11:33,820 --> 02:11:39,680
The study establishes an immediate need for 1,314 units

1670
02:11:39,680 --> 02:11:44,920
of farm worker housing in the Pauro Valley, 1,314 units.

1671
02:11:45,880 --> 02:11:49,020
There are a number of steps that can be taken to address the need.

1672
02:11:49,020 --> 02:12:00,940
First and foremost, to acknowledge the need and the community impacts of a shortage of housing and work with the city with farmers and others in the community to address it.

1673
02:12:01,200 --> 02:12:08,220
To start this process, staff is recommending that the county adopt goals for the creation of two types of farmer for housing.

1674
02:12:09,620 --> 02:12:14,520
The first type of farm worker housing are small, sometimes temporary projects.

1675
02:12:15,320 --> 02:12:19,940
Under state law, farmers have the right to place housing for their employers on their land.

1676
02:12:20,420 --> 02:12:29,240
The county can support farmers by updating the county code that treats projects of 12 units or 36 beds as an agricultural use like a barn.

1677
02:12:29,440 --> 02:12:33,000
It can also provide clear guidance on where the housing can be created,

1678
02:12:33,000 --> 02:12:37,460
how to meet other requirements such as systems development.

1679
02:12:38,520 --> 02:12:41,900
This type of housing does not restrict the rent amount,

1680
02:12:42,220 --> 02:12:44,480
but it does restrict the occupancy.

1681
02:12:45,120 --> 02:12:48,020
The county will ensure that the housing targets farm workers

1682
02:12:48,020 --> 02:12:51,100
and only farm workers consistent with state law.

1683
02:12:51,840 --> 02:12:55,400
Staff is recommending that we target the creation of 300 beds

1684
02:12:55,400 --> 02:12:58,460
of his type through clarification of the code,

1685
02:12:58,460 --> 02:13:02,720
outreach to farmers and analysis of the obstacles to building the housing.

1686
02:13:04,700 --> 02:13:10,100
The second type of farm worker housing is affordable rental housing for families.

1687
02:13:10,940 --> 02:13:14,080
The majority of farm workers in the Power of Valley live in families.

1688
02:13:14,740 --> 02:13:18,820
For this reason, legislation has been proposed and it's recently passed the assembly

1689
02:13:18,820 --> 02:13:24,020
that would treat certain types of housing for farm worker families as an agricultural use as well

1690
02:13:24,020 --> 02:13:26,880
similar to the smaller projects built by farmers.

1691
02:13:26,880 --> 02:13:30,640
This type of housing would be narrowly defined and

1692
02:13:30,640 --> 02:13:33,720
deep restricted to be affordable and available

1693
02:13:33,720 --> 02:13:35,760
only to farmer-care families.

1694
02:13:36,640 --> 02:13:38,720
By establishing a target for these properties,

1695
02:13:39,300 --> 02:13:42,480
the county would be addressing a number of long-established housing

1696
02:13:42,480 --> 02:13:43,480
element policies.

1697
02:13:44,380 --> 02:13:47,820
Staff is recommending the county adopt a goal to identify sites

1698
02:13:47,820 --> 02:13:52,280
that would accommodate 200 units of this type over the next 24

1699
02:13:52,280 --> 02:13:53,180
months.

1700
02:13:54,400 --> 02:14:02,080
Building housing for farm workers is consistent with the county mandate to support agriculture.

1701
02:14:03,780 --> 02:14:10,360
First step in identifying sites for housing for farm workers is to establish this target of 200 units of housing.

1702
02:14:11,240 --> 02:14:16,140
Viable multifamily rental projects have about 40 to 60 units.

1703
02:14:16,140 --> 02:14:20,480
So it's similar in size to the recently completed PIP and Orchard Project.

1704
02:14:21,180 --> 02:14:25,300
To meet the target, we would need to identify four or five sites.

1705
02:14:26,220 --> 02:14:31,120
As stated earlier, the study made clear that the majority of farm workers live in families

1706
02:14:31,120 --> 02:14:34,040
and most family members in the household work in agriculture.

1707
02:14:35,160 --> 02:14:38,120
Families need access to services available in urban areas.

1708
02:14:38,620 --> 02:14:44,240
And for this reason, sites that are adjacent or near urban services would work the best.

1709
02:14:44,240 --> 02:14:54,700
There are excites that have a 2-3-acre portion of the site that is not ideal for growing and these would be the areas that we would want to evaluate for housing.

1710
02:14:55,940 --> 02:14:59,980
Development by non-profit housing corporations such as Eden or Mid-Pants.

1711
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:05,820
Housing, we'll ensure that the housing is managed in a long term to meet the mandate of meeting the need for

1712
02:15:05,820 --> 02:15:12,720
Farmorker Housing. So it's recommended that your board endures a county goal to increase this

1713
02:15:12,720 --> 02:15:18,060
apply of Farmorker Housing and direct staff to undertake activities to support Farmorker Housing

1714
02:15:18,060 --> 02:15:25,560
Supply and include status reports in the general plan annual report. And that includes my presentation.

1715
02:15:27,380 --> 02:15:28,320
Any questions?

1716
02:15:30,060 --> 02:15:30,980
I have a quick question.

1717
02:15:31,120 --> 02:15:31,800
I also have a quick comment.

1718
02:15:32,060 --> 02:15:32,860
Thank you for this.

1719
02:15:33,180 --> 02:15:35,720
This is actually, although this is a short item.

1720
02:15:35,880 --> 02:15:39,500
This is one of the most important things I think that we could actually accomplish in the

1721
02:15:39,500 --> 02:15:43,520
South County, especially regarding some of the substandard conditions that many of the agricultural

1722
02:15:43,520 --> 02:15:44,580
workers live in.

1723
02:15:44,800 --> 02:15:50,840
I did have a question regarding item 3 subsection C, which deals with temporary housing.

1724
02:15:51,440 --> 02:15:56,840
I just wanted to ensure that I had an understanding of what temporary housing really is because

1725
02:15:56,840 --> 02:16:01,740
the county has a pretty strict program in regards to people being able to live and say

1726
02:16:01,740 --> 02:16:04,760
RVs and their own property, even properties that can accommodate this.

1727
02:16:04,760 --> 02:16:10,240
And I don't want to create sort of a two-tiered system where we deem it acceptable for agricultural

1728
02:16:10,240 --> 02:16:14,100
workers to live in conditions that we've deemed unacceptable for the rest of the populist

1729
02:16:14,100 --> 02:16:18,700
to live in. I would have a concern with that. Do we have a sense of what temporary housing

1730
02:16:18,700 --> 02:16:21,220
would mean both in length and in use.

1731
02:16:21,520 --> 02:16:23,320
Yeah, it's a really good point.

1732
02:16:23,580 --> 02:16:26,800
And as part of our incorporating the employee housing

1733
02:16:26,800 --> 02:16:29,720
act updates and state law into our code,

1734
02:16:30,100 --> 02:16:31,420
it's one of our concerns.

1735
02:16:31,760 --> 02:16:34,800
We know that farmers are very much interested

1736
02:16:35,580 --> 02:16:39,140
in understanding how they can create this housing

1737
02:16:39,140 --> 02:16:40,360
on their property.

1738
02:16:41,260 --> 02:16:44,800
And we are concerned about it being decent safe and sanitary,

1739
02:16:45,480 --> 02:16:47,880
and also that it not create environmental impacts.

1740
02:16:47,880 --> 02:16:58,400
So, those are exactly the questions that we'll be grappling with before we take this update to the code back to you, which we hope to do within the next four or five months.

1741
02:17:00,400 --> 02:17:00,900
Thank you.

1742
02:17:02,080 --> 02:17:02,880
Supervisor Capit.

1743
02:17:03,640 --> 02:17:05,040
Thank you.

1744
02:17:05,560 --> 02:17:07,980
I'm all for the Farm Worker Housing.

1745
02:17:08,620 --> 02:17:15,960
It does say there's no restriction on rental, we're talking about monthly rental price.

1746
02:17:15,960 --> 02:17:19,100
What stops in abuse of that?

1747
02:17:19,560 --> 02:17:20,680
And that's a good point.

1748
02:17:20,800 --> 02:17:24,380
And again, we are referring to two different types of housing.

1749
02:17:25,540 --> 02:17:33,040
That the small projects of 12 units to 36 beds to be consistent with state law,

1750
02:17:34,220 --> 02:17:38,420
that the ability to create that unit, those units,

1751
02:17:38,940 --> 02:17:43,520
is a right that a farmer has, and it is expected that they will be built privately,

1752
02:17:43,520 --> 02:17:48,580
and that they will be built by a farmer to meet his or her needs.

1753
02:17:50,080 --> 02:17:55,820
So we can restrict the occupancy and we will ensure that it is a farmer that's living in it.

1754
02:17:56,480 --> 02:18:05,340
And it assumes that the farmer will charge whatever rent they need in order to create and operate that housing.

1755
02:18:05,880 --> 02:18:08,180
Because again, what they need is housing for workers.

1756
02:18:08,180 --> 02:18:13,800
We expect, as we see, that housing, that the majority of it is going to be housing that

1757
02:18:13,800 --> 02:18:15,100
targets single individuals.

1758
02:18:16,020 --> 02:18:23,400
And it may be designed really to meet the sort of a surge in that farmers need for planting

1759
02:18:23,400 --> 02:18:24,060
and harvesting.

1760
02:18:25,020 --> 02:18:34,760
Okay, that to be a very important state law would back up some sort of a stop gap from abuse

1761
02:18:34,760 --> 02:18:39,460
of the cost of rent for the farm worker's family.

1762
02:18:40,460 --> 02:18:46,800
State law prohibits the county from limiting rent on those units.

1763
02:18:47,420 --> 02:18:52,180
On the other units, the second type, let's see if I can get back to it.

1764
02:18:52,960 --> 02:19:00,340
The farm worker housing for families, those will be very strictly restricted as to the occupancy

1765
02:19:00,340 --> 02:19:04,500
by farm worker families, and as to that affordable rent.

1766
02:19:05,980 --> 02:19:09,560
So those are the ones that those are the sites we're looking for,

1767
02:19:09,580 --> 02:19:13,320
four or five sites that will very specifically target

1768
02:19:13,320 --> 02:19:17,560
farm worker families to be permanent, affordable housing.

1769
02:19:17,640 --> 02:19:23,100
Okay, affordable rent would be tied to low and very low income.

1770
02:19:23,220 --> 02:19:26,460
That's right, it will target the rents that.

1771
02:19:26,460 --> 02:19:34,140
I don't know if anybody else here holds enough to remember an old song, but I'm not going to sing it because I can't sing.

1772
02:19:34,780 --> 02:19:45,400
But at the end of it, it goes, I owe my soul to the company's store where they're working and then they're paying to the same owner of the one who's paying the higher prices.

1773
02:19:46,220 --> 02:19:48,560
Do you remember that? Does anybody else...

1774
02:19:48,560 --> 02:19:48,920
Of course.

1775
02:19:53,680 --> 02:19:58,880
The board of supervisors sing along will be happening towards the end of the meeting.

1776
02:20:02,390 --> 02:20:08,830
I'm glad we're doing this is very much needed for a critical industry to fill in need,

1777
02:20:09,230 --> 02:20:17,510
but just to study established a goal of creating 53 hundred and we're looking at three and five,

1778
02:20:17,510 --> 02:20:21,070
And we have to start somewhere, so I really think this is great

1779
02:20:21,070 --> 02:20:22,110
that we're getting on to this.

1780
02:20:22,990 --> 02:20:25,530
But we've heard about housing at one type or another,

1781
02:20:25,790 --> 02:20:29,710
whether it's young families, or firemen, or police,

1782
02:20:30,190 --> 02:20:33,590
or teachers, or whatever, but boy, this is upon us everywhere.

1783
02:20:33,810 --> 02:20:37,130
We look for everything that people do in our community.

1784
02:20:38,330 --> 02:20:41,210
As Monterey County doing a similar study,

1785
02:20:41,610 --> 02:20:44,330
at Pius Parro Valley, it smells over.

1786
02:20:44,330 --> 02:20:44,750
Yeah.

1787
02:20:45,430 --> 02:20:51,770
So are they focused on the Pahro Valley section of Monterey County in the same type of goals?

1788
02:20:52,630 --> 02:20:59,350
And that's a good question and of those immediate units that are needed 1,314 of those

1789
02:20:59,350 --> 02:21:02,010
units are attributable to the Pahro Valley.

1790
02:21:02,990 --> 02:21:10,850
And there is a very active process that has continued and it's actually been convened by

1791
02:21:10,850 --> 02:21:17,510
and the jurisdictions in the part and the different entities that participated in the study

1792
02:21:17,510 --> 02:21:25,810
continue to work on addressing some real solutions. One part of that was the state legislation

1793
02:21:25,810 --> 02:21:35,150
that recently passed the Assembly AB 1783 that would extend the buy-right use for farm worker family

1794
02:21:35,150 --> 02:21:41,690
housing. So I expect we'll be hearing a lot more about that. And there is very much

1795
02:21:41,690 --> 02:21:44,390
an active follow-up on the part of all of the jurisdictions.

1796
02:21:45,470 --> 02:21:48,670
I'm glad we're getting started on this. It's really important.

1797
02:21:49,950 --> 02:21:51,050
This is one quick question.

1798
02:21:52,530 --> 02:21:59,450
Maybe you said this and I missed it, but we can actually place those restrictions for

1799
02:21:59,450 --> 02:22:03,110
farm workers only. I know it's always a problem with non-profit housing about what kind

1800
02:22:03,110 --> 02:22:04,810
restrictions we can place on it.

1801
02:22:04,950 --> 02:22:09,570
There's just a couple of circumstances that allow you to place to basically discriminate

1802
02:22:09,570 --> 02:22:14,050
and favor as opposed to discriminated against, which is what our legal structure lets

1803
02:22:14,050 --> 02:22:14,970
that up to do.

1804
02:22:15,590 --> 02:22:22,710
And one of them is a very targeted funding and housing that is created to target specific

1805
02:22:22,710 --> 02:22:23,310
populations.

1806
02:22:23,310 --> 02:22:27,610
We will definitely be able to do that and that is allowed now for former housing.

1807
02:22:28,050 --> 02:22:28,130
All right.

1808
02:22:28,150 --> 02:22:29,070
Thank you.

1809
02:22:30,000 --> 02:22:34,300
Now we're going to open out for public comment. Please come forward.

1810
02:22:40,750 --> 02:22:45,690
Good. Still morning. Good morning. Again, Board, I'd like to highlight an undismonerary

1811
02:22:45,690 --> 02:22:51,570
economic partnership. I just wanted to make a couple comments in support.

1812
02:22:52,070 --> 02:22:55,030
What Ms. Conway is presenting here.

1813
02:22:55,030 --> 02:23:04,190
And that, as was stated, is tasked, along with working with the City of Swinus, to help

1814
02:23:04,190 --> 02:23:12,110
the implementation of the Action Plan, last 57 steps that focus on four areas, housing

1815
02:23:12,110 --> 02:23:16,790
types, suitable sites, financing, and regulatory reform.

1816
02:23:16,790 --> 02:23:20,550
It is, there's two separate values,

1817
02:23:21,410 --> 02:23:23,790
Pajoton Slin is value, but it is a regional issue.

1818
02:23:25,530 --> 02:23:30,330
And we're tracking progress and here to support

1819
02:23:30,330 --> 02:23:34,290
the implementation of the plan as well as organizing subcommittees

1820
02:23:34,290 --> 02:23:38,750
around those, those four areas of work

1821
02:23:38,750 --> 02:23:41,350
and convening the oversight committee meetings,

1822
02:23:41,370 --> 02:23:43,210
which was kind of way as a part of.

1823
02:23:43,210 --> 02:23:53,110
And I just want to say we're here to help answer questions, support, and address the issues

1824
02:23:53,110 --> 02:23:56,310
that we're so clearly presented just now.

1825
02:23:56,990 --> 02:24:00,810
So feel free to reach out and know that we're here to help this.

1826
02:24:01,050 --> 02:24:01,930
Thank you.

1827
02:24:02,050 --> 02:24:02,730
Thank you.

1828
02:24:06,170 --> 02:24:09,990
Good morning, Jane Bar with Eden Housing, Affordable Housing, Development, Development

1829
02:24:09,990 --> 02:24:13,030
Santa Cruz County, and a member of the Farm Worker Housing Study.

1830
02:24:13,030 --> 02:24:17,190
I want to thank the county for their participation and support of the study.

1831
02:24:19,830 --> 02:24:24,590
The study showed the dire need of housing for farm markets to support our local

1832
02:24:24,590 --> 02:24:30,230
ag industry and housing for farm workers also affects the large community as additional

1833
02:24:30,230 --> 02:24:35,430
housing helps the end-met to reduce the end-met demand for housing.

1834
02:24:35,870 --> 02:24:40,250
The suggestion goals and actions to increase farm worker housing in the county are achievable.

1835
02:24:40,250 --> 02:24:47,350
I believe that we can even exceed the 200 allocated for non-Aglant and you don't

1836
02:24:47,350 --> 02:24:49,930
want to be happy to partner with the county to meet these goals.

1837
02:24:50,270 --> 02:24:50,790
Thank you.

1838
02:24:50,910 --> 02:24:51,770
Thank you.

1839
02:24:57,290 --> 02:24:57,530
Hi.

1840
02:24:57,750 --> 02:24:57,950
Good morning.

1841
02:24:58,170 --> 02:25:00,070
Betsy Wilson with mid-Pen Housing Corporation.

1842
02:25:00,850 --> 02:25:05,210
I just wanted to speak in support of staff's recommendations and underscore the need for

1843
02:25:05,210 --> 02:25:08,090
farm worker housing, particularly out in the Watsonville area.

1844
02:25:08,670 --> 02:25:13,190
We recently opened Pippen Orchards, which did not have any specific restrictions for farm

1845
02:25:13,190 --> 02:25:13,630
workers.

1846
02:25:14,430 --> 02:25:21,150
When you take those 46 units and you remove the small percentage of special needs units that were set aside for targeted populations,

1847
02:25:21,830 --> 02:25:27,990
half of the head of households at PIP and Orchards are receiving the majority of their income from agricultural work.

1848
02:25:28,590 --> 02:25:35,070
So we had 2,500 applications and it was a random lottery and half of the people living in that property are farm workers.

1849
02:25:35,070 --> 02:25:44,710
So that really I think underscores the incredible need to target additional housing permanent housing for families who are working in agriculture down in Watsonville. Thank you

1850
02:25:44,710 --> 02:25:46,210
Thank you

1851
02:25:46,770 --> 02:25:50,850
All right that will conclude public comment. I'll bring back to the board for action

1852
02:25:52,510 --> 02:25:57,230
motion by friend second by my fearsome all those in favor please say aye aye

1853
02:25:58,090 --> 02:26:04,970
Opposed that passes unanimously. I'm going to think I think because we have Julie here and we have mid pin here

1854
02:26:04,970 --> 02:26:13,050
Why don't we take item number 20.1, which is previously item number 63, that supervisor

1855
02:26:13,050 --> 02:26:18,190
cap it pulled, and we'll do this side of now.

1856
02:26:21,340 --> 02:26:24,020
They are related, actually, and that would be great.

1857
02:26:25,980 --> 02:26:32,300
What I'll do is I'm going to go through this real quick, it's a lot of stuff I know, and then

1858
02:26:32,300 --> 02:26:40,680
we can fold on it. But mid-pen has been a good partner in the past and I appreciate the way

1859
02:26:40,680 --> 02:26:42,140
they look after their property.

1860
02:26:45,800 --> 02:26:51,140
There's comments in the proposal that the city of

1861
02:26:51,140 --> 02:26:57,440
Watteville pulled out of the 450 units that they were going to build in the same area, but

1862
02:26:57,440 --> 02:27:03,240
different property. It says because of the lawsuit, that was one reason. The other reason was the

1863
02:27:03,240 --> 02:27:08,540
housing market collapse and then all of a sudden there was no interest in proceeding forward.

1864
02:27:09,500 --> 02:27:18,780
Then the other is in the wording, it's very unclear about 64 units or up to 80. It says up to 80.

1865
02:27:19,160 --> 02:27:26,860
So I have a problem with that up to 80. I'd like to be more specific here. I do like the part where

1866
02:27:26,860 --> 02:27:36,020
is low, very low income. That's good. Then it says 3,500,000 is available in the low to

1867
02:27:36,020 --> 02:27:42,700
moderate income levels fund. But we're not going to have moderate income levels. Is that correct?

1868
02:27:43,620 --> 02:27:50,340
The name of the fund that receives repayments from investments from the former redevelopment

1869
02:27:50,340 --> 02:27:58,820
agency is called by state law the low and moderate income housing asset fund. So the name of

1870
02:27:58,820 --> 02:28:05,840
that fund doesn't include the term moderate. The housing that will be built if mid-pend brings

1871
02:28:05,840 --> 02:28:14,020
projects forward, all of the units will be deeply targeted to low, very low and extremely low

1872
02:28:14,020 --> 02:28:24,180
And then later states that this is part of 174 units in different phases,

1873
02:28:26,880 --> 02:28:33,680
and that's my concern, and I'll explain that in a second here, and I'm getting to impacts.

1874
02:28:34,780 --> 02:28:42,560
Any time, I've seen this like a knee jerk reaction at one time we had the housing collapse

1875
02:28:42,560 --> 02:28:44,420
and we didn't do anything.

1876
02:28:44,740 --> 02:28:47,860
People were saying, oh, we can't build, we can't build, we're not going to do anything.

1877
02:28:48,420 --> 02:28:54,440
Now we're saying that we have a housing crisis and let's build and build and keep building.

1878
02:28:54,440 --> 02:29:08,260
We have to understand that I'm going by state statistics 528 children on a based on 174 units that

1879
02:29:08,260 --> 02:29:17,300
three per unit if we're going to include a state statistic and you account the adults that

1880
02:29:17,300 --> 02:29:27,920
about 870 residents and then miles on the roads on that concern would increase up to about

1881
02:29:27,920 --> 02:29:38,900
3,800 miles per day. Two cars, 11 miles per car, 22 miles. So that's one concern I have

1882
02:29:38,900 --> 02:29:46,220
if we're talking about 172 units. I want to make it clear. I have no problem with 60 units,

1883
02:29:46,220 --> 02:29:52,680
may be even 62, but I don't like the language of 174 possible.

1884
02:29:54,240 --> 02:29:59,980
The answer to the question on the three, we're asking for 3 million out of the fund of three.

1885
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:17,840
Point 5 million. Is that correct? We're asking for a total of, we're recommending a total of 3.5 million. 3 million will be for acquisition. 500,000 will be for pre-development activities, which is very typical for our investment.

1886
02:30:18,140 --> 02:30:21,840
I didn't see that wording. Is that a wording in there? Yes, it is.

1887
02:30:21,840 --> 02:30:26,160
It is in there. The 500,000. It's in the executive summary.

1888
02:30:27,000 --> 02:30:29,540
I didn't see it specifically.

1889
02:30:31,480 --> 02:30:34,400
The other, we have to look at as public schools,

1890
02:30:34,620 --> 02:30:38,080
especially elementary schools in the South County.

1891
02:30:38,660 --> 02:30:39,920
They're basically full.

1892
02:30:40,300 --> 02:30:43,000
They're not as full as they were about two years ago,

1893
02:30:43,340 --> 02:30:44,180
but they're packed.

1894
02:30:45,560 --> 02:30:47,980
So anytime we're adding this much housing,

1895
02:30:48,760 --> 02:30:53,120
this quick, we have to also be looking out for a site

1896
02:30:53,120 --> 02:30:54,980
for another elementary school.

1897
02:30:55,940 --> 02:31:02,260
That's rather than reacting to Jerk to what a problem we have now, we have to think down the road.

1898
02:31:03,160 --> 02:31:11,240
Okay, that also we have to worry about the Watsonville police and fire department.

1899
02:31:12,280 --> 02:31:17,500
Basically, once we build in a city area that's surrounded by the city of Watsonville,

1900
02:31:18,100 --> 02:31:22,540
we are heading towards, they would finally take over an annex that part.

1901
02:31:22,540 --> 02:31:28,260
And then that would put a tremendous burden on the police and fire department there in Watsonville.

1902
02:31:29,380 --> 02:31:32,480
And so I'm trying to get a, you know, some specifics.

1903
02:31:33,200 --> 02:31:38,680
We also have water and garbage pickups that would probably end up going to the city also.

1904
02:31:39,500 --> 02:31:48,560
And the other, what I don't see here, when we're doing all this building, we're not putting aside at least some acreage for parks.

1905
02:31:49,120 --> 02:32:07,080
So what I would like to see is maybe a two acre park or something added in that area, so kids don't have to walk all the way across town somewhere and the cross streets and whatever, trying to get to a park to play a little bit of baseball or soccer.

1906
02:32:07,840 --> 02:32:13,500
So, this could be a good plan, if we look ahead, we do it right.

1907
02:32:14,100 --> 02:32:23,680
I'm just asking that we specifically say we're for 60 up to 62 units, and we dropped

1908
02:32:23,680 --> 02:32:29,960
the language that we're also going ahead with 174 units.

1909
02:32:30,000 --> 02:32:31,360
That could be brought up later.

1910
02:32:31,360 --> 02:32:42,560
I don't want to vote for a locomotive, a train that's going forward, and then we can't stop it at any point.

1911
02:32:44,320 --> 02:32:47,600
Thank you. Those are really important points that you've brought up.

1912
02:32:48,060 --> 02:32:59,800
And the first thing that I'd like to be very clear about is that the recommended action today will allow mid-pan housing to acquire the overall site.

1913
02:32:59,800 --> 02:33:02,320
That's the action today.

1914
02:33:02,840 --> 02:33:06,340
There is no project being proposed at this time.

1915
02:33:06,860 --> 02:33:12,500
Obviously, the only reason that we're recommending using low and moderate income housing funds

1916
02:33:12,500 --> 02:33:21,340
for this acquisition is because we anticipate mid-pen developing a project as they seek input on the site.

1917
02:33:22,020 --> 02:33:27,840
But I do think it's important to note that we aren't talking about how many units

1918
02:33:27,840 --> 02:33:34,700
are going to be in a particular project or in a particular phase, I think you raise all the

1919
02:33:34,700 --> 02:33:42,080
points that you raise are a big part of consideration for any project. And any project

1920
02:33:42,080 --> 02:33:48,020
or really likely projects that will be coming forward will pay school fees to the PAHO

1921
02:33:48,020 --> 02:33:54,240
Valley Unified School District. They will pay traffic impact fees. And the impacts of the

1922
02:33:54,240 --> 02:34:00,300
development will be under consideration within any of those projects that are brought forward.

1923
02:34:00,940 --> 02:34:02,820
So your points are well taken.

1924
02:34:03,610 --> 02:34:10,260
Your point about the park is also well taken and I didn't bring it up with me, but you

1925
02:34:10,260 --> 02:34:17,420
may remember from the earlier specific plan and planned unit development that the city and

1926
02:34:17,420 --> 02:34:25,620
county did together, there was a significant park anticipated in the city area of the specific

1927
02:34:25,620 --> 02:34:26,080
plan.

1928
02:34:26,420 --> 02:34:32,540
And I would anticipate that that's an important need and certainly your interest in that

1929
02:34:32,540 --> 02:34:33,560
is noted today.

1930
02:34:33,560 --> 02:34:42,880
And I'll just pretty much come to a conclusion the we're talking,

1931
02:34:52,130 --> 02:35:09,310
so basically it's, well, I want to get, you know, specifically what exactly we're voting on, and the public input, I've seen, I'm going to point out the city.

1932
02:35:09,310 --> 02:35:11,430
I was on the city council before,

1933
02:35:13,450 --> 02:35:14,850
and there was public

1934
02:35:14,850 --> 02:35:20,530
important on that 450 project, which is not part of this,

1935
02:35:20,850 --> 02:35:22,050
but it's right next door.

1936
02:35:23,150 --> 02:35:27,850
The public came, we had people from the Bruins in Avenue,

1937
02:35:29,470 --> 02:35:31,970
Rogers Street, Stanford Street.

1938
02:35:32,450 --> 02:35:36,150
They would become thoroughfares going through there in order to connect.

1939
02:35:37,250 --> 02:35:43,690
It got really bad, and the people speaking overwhelmingly said that they would go for maybe

1940
02:35:43,690 --> 02:35:45,150
200 units, right?

1941
02:35:45,530 --> 02:35:54,070
The city of Watsonville came back on a four-and-a-three vote that 450 is what they were

1942
02:35:54,070 --> 02:35:55,390
going to stick with.

1943
02:35:55,950 --> 02:35:58,510
The public input was almost totally ignored.

1944
02:35:59,590 --> 02:35:59,990
Totally ignored.

1945
02:35:59,990 --> 02:36:08,750
So when I'm getting out here as we're going to have a lot of public input once we go past the 60 units for 62.

1946
02:36:09,670 --> 02:36:17,090
I know it doesn't include brewing and being opened up right now, but if it does in the future on 174 units,

1947
02:36:17,810 --> 02:36:23,610
or on what the city has planned for the acreage around us, that's going to be a huge issue.

1948
02:36:24,650 --> 02:36:27,010
And there'll be a lot of pushback.

1949
02:36:27,010 --> 02:36:44,750
So, I just, if you could read to me exactly what we're voting on right now, no extra language that's in here that says 174 units, and that I'm okay, but I'm going by what was presented to me in the explanation.

1950
02:36:46,490 --> 02:36:52,290
Okay, so what are we exactly voting on? And nothing more that can be inferred.

1951
02:36:56,540 --> 02:37:18,120
Yeah, the recommended actions are outlined in the staff report and they are to approve an allocation to mid and housing corporation of $3 million in low and moderate income housing assets funds for the acquisition and for the acquisition of the property and 500,000 and pre-development funding for the purpose of affordable housing development.

1952
02:37:18,120 --> 02:37:24,860
that's action one. Action two is to authorize the planning director to negotiate and finalize

1953
02:37:24,860 --> 02:37:29,960
an affordable housing agreement with mid and housing consistent with the terms outlined in

1954
02:37:30,000 --> 02:37:36,220
This memo. Okay. So we have no numbers in there right now. Do we?

1955
02:37:36,600 --> 02:37:43,500
The acquisition of this site, and it is the overall site, and I know you've seen the map involved

1956
02:37:43,500 --> 02:37:50,160
it can be a little bit confusing, because there was, there were phases identified when the city

1957
02:37:50,160 --> 02:37:55,560
was involved in their specific plan. That is no longer on the table, and it isn't anything

1958
02:37:55,560 --> 02:38:02,520
the county has any jurisdiction under, but we have is just the county portion that was approved.

1959
02:38:03,060 --> 02:38:04,500
It has been entitled.

1960
02:38:04,960 --> 02:38:11,120
Sequinals is complete and it is only the county portion that we're talking about at this

1961
02:38:11,120 --> 02:38:11,420
time.

1962
02:38:12,440 --> 02:38:13,860
And I just want to make it clear.

1963
02:38:14,440 --> 02:38:19,440
Carlos, you were a city manager and he remembers that I remembered on the City Council.

1964
02:38:19,900 --> 02:38:23,120
I don't want to be in a mess in the future.

1965
02:38:23,120 --> 02:38:30,000
I'm okay with 60 to 62, but I'm going to have a problem when we start adding number.

1966
02:38:30,240 --> 02:38:39,260
So I should clarify that that overall large project that was a city and county joint project

1967
02:38:39,260 --> 02:38:47,860
is not moving forward. The county did in title 200 units and we had to do this because of a state lawsuit.

1968
02:38:47,860 --> 02:39:00,600
We entitled 200 units for the county portion of Actonson Lane and that is all that is being discussed with this action.

1969
02:39:00,600 --> 02:39:01,860
Thank you.

1970
02:39:02,640 --> 02:39:03,820
Just a brief question.

1971
02:39:04,500 --> 02:39:07,900
Is the property in the city or the city's sphere of influence?

1972
02:39:08,640 --> 02:39:15,760
It is in the county and it is in the city's sphere of influence for sewer and water.

1973
02:39:15,760 --> 02:39:25,260
You know, Ms. Wilson, remember we as little tortures at the city of Watsonville to get them to annex the previous project in.

1974
02:39:25,940 --> 02:39:30,300
So, hopefully we won't have a repeat of that but when one comes time to build this project.

1975
02:39:32,260 --> 02:39:33,280
Yeah, yeah.

1976
02:39:34,860 --> 02:39:37,840
There were a lot of dotted lines, a lot of colors, hard to figure out.

1977
02:39:38,180 --> 02:39:44,380
No, without a doubt, and when a project does come forward on an application is made for a project,

1978
02:39:44,380 --> 02:39:51,480
It will be reviewed by Lafco, and all of those issues will be on the table, and they will be thoroughly discussed.

1979
02:39:52,700 --> 02:40:05,120
And my last comment is, again, I've said it before, and we've seen some progress, not all the affordable housing is in District 4, but it goes countywide.

1980
02:40:05,660 --> 02:40:10,680
We do have affordable housing being built in the live oak area, I think that's wonderful.

1981
02:40:11,700 --> 02:40:15,520
We've had a lot of work done at the App to our area in District 2.

1982
02:40:16,280 --> 02:40:17,600
That's remarkable also.

1983
02:40:18,480 --> 02:40:26,160
So when we're looking at this, I just don't want to see it all in District 4 and not spread out through the rest of the county.

1984
02:40:26,500 --> 02:40:28,860
To put too much pressure all in one area.

1985
02:40:28,860 --> 02:40:34,880
And that's why I mentioned parks, and I mentioned schools, and I mentioned infrastructure.

1986
02:40:35,540 --> 02:40:37,240
Thank you.

1987
02:40:37,720 --> 02:40:37,900
Okay.

1988
02:40:38,780 --> 02:40:39,920
Is there any public comment?

1989
02:40:47,560 --> 02:40:49,400
Hi again, Betsy Wilson, mid-Pen Housing.

1990
02:40:49,620 --> 02:40:51,480
Thank you for consideration of this item.

1991
02:40:52,940 --> 02:40:55,140
A couple of comments and thoughts.

1992
02:40:56,520 --> 02:40:59,000
I think it's a good idea for us to go and meet with the school district.

1993
02:40:59,320 --> 02:41:04,060
Now that Pippin' Orchards is open, we've got students who are enrolling from there, so we'll

1994
02:41:04,060 --> 02:41:09,900
get a good feel from the local elementary school as to what their capacity looks like and how our

1995
02:41:09,900 --> 02:41:16,080
housing has maybe changed that or altered that. 67% of the folks who moved in to Pippin

1996
02:41:16,080 --> 02:41:20,480
Orchard's already lived in Watsonville, Freedom or Pahara, so they're really already within

1997
02:41:20,480 --> 02:41:24,840
the community there for a large part. And I think what you're seeing is folks

1998
02:41:24,840 --> 02:41:29,440
are able to move out of overcrowded situations and into our housing units as opposed to

1999
02:41:29,440 --> 02:41:34,280
folks from the outside. So we're really serving a need that's already existing within the

2000
02:41:34,280 --> 02:41:40,520
community amongst people who already live there. As far as parks, so we do provide our own

2001
02:41:40,520 --> 02:41:45,440
onsite amenities as you've seen and we're hoping to have some more generous space for that

2002
02:41:45,440 --> 02:41:51,700
at this property. Additionally, Crestview Park is a two-acre park right adjacent to the property.

2003
02:41:51,940 --> 02:41:59,420
So we already have a two-acre park that's right there within that area. And then I do want to

2004
02:41:59,420 --> 02:42:05,100
The underlying entitlement for this site does require access to be taken off of brewing

2005
02:42:05,100 --> 02:42:05,480
tin.

2006
02:42:05,880 --> 02:42:11,820
So, Pippin Orchard comes off of Atkinson Lane, but the requirement under the EIR and

2007
02:42:11,820 --> 02:42:15,840
entitlements is for brewing tin to be the access point for this location.

2008
02:42:16,440 --> 02:42:22,520
So the 60 to 70 may be homes we can build in phase one will be over towards the Atkinson

2009
02:42:22,520 --> 02:42:27,260
side because that's outside of the agricultural buffer, but folks will have to access the

2010
02:42:27,260 --> 02:42:28,260
site from brewing tin.

2011
02:42:32,130 --> 02:42:36,550
This site, the primary access for residents will be off of Brewington Lane.

2012
02:42:37,450 --> 02:42:42,850
It will not be opened up. Brewington will not open up and connect to the 60.

2013
02:42:43,490 --> 02:42:47,410
No it will. It must. That's the requirement under the entitlement.

2014
02:42:47,630 --> 02:42:49,150
It doesn't come off of that concern Lane.

2015
02:42:49,570 --> 02:42:51,490
So Wagner, Wagner is not.

2016
02:42:51,490 --> 02:42:53,010
No, it would be brewing tonight.

2017
02:42:53,090 --> 02:42:53,410
Correct.

2018
02:42:53,610 --> 02:42:55,550
We're going to have a big problem on that.

2019
02:42:56,050 --> 02:43:00,170
I've started speaking with the city staff and we'll be holding community meetings as well

2020
02:43:00,170 --> 02:43:04,130
and doing our best to educate folks and be responsive to community interests.

2021
02:43:06,590 --> 02:43:13,490
That changes a lot of neighborhoods in Watsonville by opening it up.

2022
02:43:14,820 --> 02:43:16,040
Is that true?

2023
02:43:17,380 --> 02:43:17,760
Brunton's.

2024
02:43:19,960 --> 02:43:30,900
Yes, that was part of the original environmental impact report analysis was that Brunton was going to open up into this property.

2025
02:43:30,900 --> 02:43:32,760
And it was part of measure you as well.

2026
02:43:32,960 --> 02:43:36,720
Measure you included that plan as well.

2027
02:43:39,290 --> 02:43:39,610
Good.

2028
02:43:40,050 --> 02:43:41,430
I'm going to have to vote no one.

2029
02:43:42,810 --> 02:43:43,750
Thank you very much.

2030
02:43:44,350 --> 02:43:46,090
I think that concludes public comment.

2031
02:43:46,690 --> 02:43:49,050
I'll bring it back to the board for deliberation and action.

2032
02:43:50,130 --> 02:43:51,530
I will move approval of the recommendation.

2033
02:43:52,090 --> 02:43:53,550
We've got a motion by Leopold.

2034
02:43:54,230 --> 02:43:55,350
Second by friend.

2035
02:43:56,090 --> 02:43:57,710
All those in favor, please say aye.

2036
02:43:58,850 --> 02:43:59,150
Opposed?

2037
02:43:59,350 --> 02:43:59,630
No.

2038
02:43:59,970 --> 02:44:00,230
All right.

2039
02:44:00,230 --> 02:44:03,050
That passes four to one with a surprise or capet voting now.

2040
02:44:03,610 --> 02:44:05,610
Thank you very much.

2041
02:44:07,090 --> 02:44:09,570
Getting back to our regular schedule.

2042
02:44:12,290 --> 02:44:14,590
Then thank you everyone for your patience in waiting.

2043
02:44:16,670 --> 02:44:19,770
We're going to move down to our 17, which is considered a final appointment of a list

2044
02:44:19,770 --> 02:44:22,490
that we're going to run into the workforce development board as a local business representative

2045
02:44:22,490 --> 02:44:25,850
for a term to expire June 30th, 2022.

2046
02:44:27,470 --> 02:44:28,450
Is there any public comment?

2047
02:44:28,450 --> 02:44:35,670
seeing non-abranded approval. Motion by Leopold. Second by McPherson. On favor, please say aye.

2048
02:44:36,610 --> 02:44:42,650
Aye. Opposed. That passes unanimously. We will now have a steady session on the 2019-2020

2049
02:44:42,650 --> 02:44:49,470
capital improvement program and direct public works to present the 2021 CIP incorporating all the

2050
02:44:49,470 --> 02:44:55,510
changes. The board's adopt is part of the 2019-2020 budget hearings on the CIP. Related

2051
02:44:55,510 --> 02:44:59,970
judge documents on her before May 22nd, 2020 as recommended by the CEO.

2052
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:04,320
A.o. Director of Public Works. Deputy, say aye, Director of Public Works.

2053
02:45:05,340 --> 02:45:13,000
Thank you, Chair. Board of Supervisors, and good morning, or good afternoon. Matt Machado, and I am

2054
02:45:13,000 --> 02:45:18,360
part of a team this morning. We've got a great team assemble to give you a presentation and

2055
02:45:18,360 --> 02:45:25,760
opportunity to dialogue about our updated capital improvement program. Our team this morning

2056
02:45:25,760 --> 02:45:27,280
consists of Steve Weeser.

2057
02:45:27,480 --> 02:45:31,000
He's our assistant director in public works.

2058
02:45:31,680 --> 02:45:35,060
We have Michael Beaton, our GSD director,

2059
02:45:36,080 --> 02:45:38,380
and we have Jeff Daphne, our director of parks.

2060
02:45:38,960 --> 02:45:40,200
So we've got a great team assembled.

2061
02:45:41,420 --> 02:45:42,960
But the team is much larger than that.

2062
02:45:42,960 --> 02:45:46,140
There was quite a few staff members

2063
02:45:46,140 --> 02:45:47,960
from each of our departments to contribute

2064
02:45:47,960 --> 02:45:51,160
to this program, into this document.

2065
02:45:51,780 --> 02:45:55,140
It was led by Amy Miyakusu from public works.

2066
02:45:55,140 --> 02:46:01,340
she did a great job and all of our staff contributed greatly so we're very proud of it and

2067
02:46:01,340 --> 02:46:03,300
what that will get started.

2068
02:46:04,440 --> 02:46:06,040
Can we turn his on?

2069
02:46:06,300 --> 02:46:07,040
Mine going.

2070
02:46:07,400 --> 02:46:08,360
I may be hit it.

2071
02:46:11,700 --> 02:46:12,360
That's okay.

2072
02:46:12,640 --> 02:46:13,460
I don't really need it.

2073
02:46:20,230 --> 02:46:21,490
Thank you.

2074
02:46:33,600 --> 02:46:34,800
There you go.

2075
02:46:37,980 --> 02:46:40,100
Excuse our set up here.

2076
02:46:42,250 --> 02:46:42,550
All right.

2077
02:46:42,770 --> 02:46:43,270
Here we go.

2078
02:46:45,050 --> 02:46:54,470
So Santa Cruz County's Capital Improvement Program is a five-year program, it's the implementation plan for projects that we've planned.

2079
02:46:55,230 --> 02:46:57,650
It does establish a logical process.

2080
02:46:58,210 --> 02:46:58,870
That's critical.

2081
02:46:59,510 --> 02:47:01,350
It's a forecast for our next five years.

2082
02:47:01,530 --> 02:47:05,130
We do update it annually, so it's not just a five-year go.

2083
02:47:05,130 --> 02:47:12,910
And probably one of the most critical elements of a CIP is that it's physically constrained.

2084
02:47:13,130 --> 02:47:15,950
And so there are certainly more needs in the county than resources.

2085
02:47:16,630 --> 02:47:23,630
But the CIP is an effort to prioritize those projects that we can identify resources to

2086
02:47:23,630 --> 02:47:26,250
begin project development or project implementation.

2087
02:47:26,970 --> 02:47:32,450
The projects do include public works, county facilities, libraries, health safety and parks.

2088
02:47:32,450 --> 02:47:39,070
Each project page does include the project type, the status, the description of background,

2089
02:47:39,850 --> 02:47:45,970
estimates, funding sources, and schedule, as best we know.

2090
02:47:48,670 --> 02:47:54,790
As part of our countywide Primo Continuous Improvement efforts, we are proposing and implementing

2091
02:47:54,790 --> 02:48:00,650
a once a year update to the CIP in the past, this was twice a year, and it took quite

2092
02:48:00,650 --> 02:48:05,170
bit of resources and did not add much value.

2093
02:48:05,490 --> 02:48:11,510
So we think this is an improvement and we're excited about the new efforts.

2094
02:48:12,430 --> 02:48:17,890
The format of course will continue to update and improve as we get the bugs out of it.

2095
02:48:17,970 --> 02:48:23,750
This is our second year with the new format and of course it supports transparency and

2096
02:48:23,750 --> 02:48:24,310
efficiencies.

2097
02:48:29,950 --> 02:48:35,270
So one of the areas that we're really going to focus on is the program versus unprogrammed

2098
02:48:35,270 --> 02:48:43,030
project areas. So the program areas are those that have been budgeted some funds. Some of them

2099
02:48:43,030 --> 02:48:48,770
completely budgeted, some of them just to get started. And in the unprogrammed section, are

2100
02:48:48,770 --> 02:48:54,350
those projects that do not have funding identified yet, but are important to the county and

2101
02:48:54,350 --> 02:49:00,710
to each of your districts. And this coming year, we plan to truly vet out the unprogrammed section

2102
02:49:00,710 --> 02:49:07,330
to get better descriptions, better estimates, so that when we talk about the future, we have a better vision

2103
02:49:07,330 --> 02:49:12,470
of the needs and the resources needed to bring those projects into the program sections.

2104
02:49:16,380 --> 02:49:20,820
Next up, we will highlight a handful of public works projects.

2105
02:49:21,520 --> 02:49:27,140
And at this time, I will turn it over to Assistant Director Steve Wiesner.

2106
02:49:28,120 --> 02:49:29,380
Thank you, and good afternoon.

2107
02:49:29,880 --> 02:49:38,520
Okay, so I'm going to talk about the public work section of the CIP, and you know, it's arranged by district and there's a few different ways to look at this.

2108
02:49:39,020 --> 02:49:46,180
I'm going to present to you today based on we have a lot of projects in the CIP, really dozens and hundreds if you include the storm damage repair projects.

2109
02:49:46,920 --> 02:49:52,140
So I'm going to describe the projects by their category according to the programs that public works is responsible for.

2110
02:49:52,140 --> 02:49:54,600
So, most of the projects that we have in the CIP

2111
02:49:54,600 --> 02:49:57,160
fall into five basic categories would be

2112
02:49:57,160 --> 02:50:00,120
Pave in Management, Bridge Projects,

2113
02:50:00,220 --> 02:50:03,300
Community Development and Congestion Management Projects,

2114
02:50:03,400 --> 02:50:05,320
Stormed Management Repair Projects,

2115
02:50:05,340 --> 02:50:09,480
and Community Service Area and Special District Projects.

2116
02:50:09,860 --> 02:50:11,800
So, looking in the CIP, you're going to find a number of

2117
02:50:11,800 --> 02:50:13,080
Pave Management Projects,

2118
02:50:13,460 --> 02:50:15,580
and I know it's no secret to you all that the county struggled

2119
02:50:15,580 --> 02:50:18,320
with identifying funds for its Pave Management Program

2120
02:50:18,320 --> 02:50:20,880
in the past decade, decade and a half.

2121
02:50:20,880 --> 02:50:23,600
However, with the passage of measure D locally,

2122
02:50:24,260 --> 02:50:27,720
the new waste hauler's franchise fee for road impacts,

2123
02:50:29,980 --> 02:50:33,220
and some federal highway regional surface transportation funds

2124
02:50:33,220 --> 02:50:34,660
that we get annually.

2125
02:50:35,380 --> 02:50:38,340
The county now has a much more robust paid management program,

2126
02:50:38,640 --> 02:50:41,380
and we'll be putting out annual resurfacing projects,

2127
02:50:41,520 --> 02:50:43,640
utilizing these resources to address the needs.

2128
02:50:44,520 --> 02:50:46,620
So listed here are projects that are funded

2129
02:50:46,620 --> 02:50:48,340
and are currently in the queue for construction.

2130
02:50:49,220 --> 02:50:54,500
on their page numbers or reference there, and I think I should say that you guys are welcome to ask any questions.

2131
02:50:54,700 --> 02:50:59,520
I think we'll have some time for Q and A at the end of the presentation if you want to say them for that.

2132
02:51:01,180 --> 02:51:02,300
Okay, moving on to bridge projects.

2133
02:51:03,780 --> 02:51:08,360
So the county is responsible for approximately 150 roadway bridges county wide.

2134
02:51:08,800 --> 02:51:14,980
Many of these bridges are near or at the end of their useful lives, or have some type of geometric or structural deficiency,

2135
02:51:14,980 --> 02:51:19,220
which requires some sort of rehabilitation work or in some cases full replacement.

2136
02:51:20,660 --> 02:51:26,620
The good news is that the federal highway bridge program is alive and well and it provides funds for these critical needs.

2137
02:51:27,260 --> 02:51:32,260
The county currently has 16 bridges in the program and they're all at various stages in development.

2138
02:51:33,500 --> 02:51:38,540
And we anticipate rolling out building one of these at approximately about a rate of one per year.

2139
02:51:38,540 --> 02:51:45,100
We currently have one in construction that's down in the southern Coralitos area of the county.

2140
02:51:45,900 --> 02:51:50,360
It's the Redwood Road Bridge, which is over attribute area to Brown's Valley Creek,

2141
02:51:51,240 --> 02:51:54,100
and construction is anticipated to be completed this summer.

2142
02:51:54,400 --> 02:51:57,860
But you can expect to see, like hopefully, about one a year for the next many years.

2143
02:51:59,380 --> 02:52:04,260
Okay, moving on to the community development slash congestion management projects.

2144
02:52:04,260 --> 02:52:10,600
So, this list is comprised of a variety of projects that impact our county maintain roads.

2145
02:52:10,900 --> 02:52:16,060
They're road widening projects, they're traffic signal installations, operational improvements,

2146
02:52:17,000 --> 02:52:21,200
some are streetscape projects and pedestrian facility and bike lane projects.

2147
02:52:22,480 --> 02:52:27,560
So, some of these projects you'll note that are left over from the previous redevelopment agency era

2148
02:52:27,560 --> 02:52:29,980
and have just a small amount of what we call...

2149
02:52:30,000 --> 02:52:38,920
Feed money from say traffic impact fees so that we can continue development of the project and seek out grant funds, you know, for these needs.

2150
02:52:39,620 --> 02:52:46,220
Others on the list are actually long-time community development projects that have been around for a while that will be implementing within the next few years.

2151
02:52:46,780 --> 02:52:56,380
And they include a myriad of roadway and roadside improvements to modernize or beautify, say, a downtown core area, you know, and improve traffic operations.

2152
02:52:57,900 --> 02:53:01,400
So, and then you're also going to note that there's others listed here, which are strictly

2153
02:53:01,400 --> 02:53:07,300
for traffic improvements, such as signalized intersections, right-hand turnpockets, things

2154
02:53:07,300 --> 02:53:11,040
of these nature, and these projects are all at various stages of development.

2155
02:53:13,860 --> 02:53:16,360
So, moving on to storm damage repair, Project X.

2156
02:53:16,420 --> 02:53:23,340
So, as your board is aware, the list here represents the monumental task that the Department

2157
02:53:23,340 --> 02:53:27,200
public works in our county has in repairing the many roads that were damaged as a result

2158
02:53:27,200 --> 02:53:29,340
of the 2016-2017 storms.

2159
02:53:30,180 --> 02:53:33,660
Today, we've completed permanent repairs to nearly 30 sites.

2160
02:53:34,400 --> 02:53:39,900
However, we still have almost 170 sites left to repair, which is currently estimated to cost

2161
02:53:39,900 --> 02:53:40,980
around $75 million.

2162
02:53:42,280 --> 02:53:46,500
In the department, we continue to work with our state and our federal partners to deliver

2163
02:53:46,500 --> 02:53:47,480
these projects.

2164
02:53:48,220 --> 02:53:52,640
And while we're confident in our own abilities to repair our roads, we have had some difficulty

2165
02:53:52,640 --> 02:53:59,560
and securing all the necessary funding as your board is aware, and also we're utilizing

2166
02:53:59,560 --> 02:54:05,720
most of our SB1 funding as our required local match for these repairs, and we anticipate

2167
02:54:05,720 --> 02:54:11,600
that'll be for many years, for a few years anyway, 35 years to come. So, you know, in this

2168
02:54:11,600 --> 02:54:15,180
program, we're just going to continue to deliver these projects. We're going to work very closely

2169
02:54:15,180 --> 02:54:20,680
with CaloES, FEMA, FHWA, Cal Trans, and our state and federal legislatures along with the county

2170
02:54:21,400 --> 02:54:25,000
and your board to make sure that funding is available to enact these repairs.

2171
02:54:25,960 --> 02:54:30,440
You know, we made really resolute and this is a big focus for the road department, for sure.

2172
02:54:31,800 --> 02:54:36,820
Okay, moving on to community service areas and special district projects.

2173
02:54:37,220 --> 02:54:39,140
There's a number of projects in here.

2174
02:54:39,480 --> 02:54:48,280
Public Works is responsible to maintain and operate and administer many community service areas, CSAs, and special districts throughout our county.

2175
02:54:49,720 --> 02:54:55,600
And many of these CSA's and special districts are set up to provide services like wastewater

2176
02:54:55,600 --> 02:55:00,940
collection and treatment systems and also clean drinking water facilities as well.

2177
02:55:01,380 --> 02:55:04,940
So several of these projects listed here, they're also in various stages of development

2178
02:55:04,940 --> 02:55:07,740
and we'd have to be happy to answer any questions at the end of the presentation.

2179
02:55:08,400 --> 02:55:12,600
So with that, I think I'm turning it over to Michael, who's going to cover the county facilities

2180
02:55:12,600 --> 02:55:13,100
summary.

2181
02:55:13,100 --> 02:55:13,680
All

2182
02:55:19,820 --> 02:55:27,540
right, for the county's facility side, this CIP plan has actually been a partnership of three main departments, and I'd like to call it the

2183
02:55:27,540 --> 02:55:31,640
Sure, microphone on. It is on. Okay. Sorry, I'm going to go closer.

2184
02:55:32,320 --> 02:55:41,620
All right, so this has kind of been a big partnership between the Department of Public Works, General Services and Parks. I like to refer to us as the Larry Curley and Mo.

2185
02:55:41,620 --> 02:55:45,080
I'd like to say I'm Mo.

2186
02:55:47,720 --> 02:55:56,280
For the county facilities, we've been working pretty good on developing systems in place to evaluate the projects that we have coming to our to your board.

2187
02:55:57,260 --> 02:56:01,480
Identified today are going to be some of the highlights of some of the projects that we currently have.

2188
02:56:02,180 --> 02:56:05,200
Some of them have been completed that we're just waiting to come back to the board on.

2189
02:56:05,200 --> 02:56:06,940
For example, the first two items on the list,

2190
02:56:07,140 --> 02:56:09,080
the 1080 MLA and first floor remodel,

2191
02:56:09,580 --> 02:56:11,560
which had an estimated cost of about $6 million.

2192
02:56:12,080 --> 02:56:13,900
It expanded our behavioral health unit.

2193
02:56:14,080 --> 02:56:16,400
I'm sorry, our federally qualified health center

2194
02:56:16,400 --> 02:56:18,840
by additional 10 to 14 exam rooms.

2195
02:56:19,320 --> 02:56:20,920
The construction is pretty much complete

2196
02:56:20,920 --> 02:56:22,820
with some final finishings.

2197
02:56:22,900 --> 02:56:24,320
We're ponding having a notice of completion

2198
02:56:24,320 --> 02:56:26,000
to this board in August.

2199
02:56:26,960 --> 02:56:29,800
We also have the Watsonville Health Center remodel,

2200
02:56:29,980 --> 02:56:34,040
which was a remodel of the waiting area

2201
02:56:34,040 --> 02:56:41,480
And the addition of three exam rooms for the Watsonville Health Center that is also complete and will be returned to your board in August

2202
02:56:41,480 --> 02:56:45,220
We're just working at some small finalization of some items

2203
02:56:45,880 --> 02:56:51,500
We also have the behavioral health unit, which is in a behavioral health office unit, which is in the South County

2204
02:56:51,500 --> 02:56:55,220
It is identified to hopefully be ready for occupancy July 1

2205
02:56:55,840 --> 02:57:00,580
We are finalizing the fire system with the fire marshal this week

2206
02:57:00,580 --> 02:57:08,040
We are also looking at finishing the landscaping and the art component to that project within the next month or so.

2207
02:57:08,200 --> 02:57:11,640
We do plan on having again occupancy of that building by July 1.

2208
02:57:12,780 --> 02:57:15,740
We also have the 1080 Emeline HFEC replacement project.

2209
02:57:16,620 --> 02:57:22,320
This is currently underway with plans and specs as well as coordination with the

2210
02:57:23,300 --> 02:57:27,220
the Canadian Rearoof Project as they kind of go both hand in hand.

2211
02:57:28,760 --> 02:57:33,700
The Government's Summer Rearoof for this building is currently identified in the

2212
02:57:33,700 --> 02:57:39,460
planning and specs phases to identify how we can mitigate some of the rain buckets

2213
02:57:39,460 --> 02:57:44,460
that we have holding the roof leaks at bay.

2214
02:57:45,060 --> 02:57:49,160
As well as we are also working on the Harbour Vet site to work with the Health Services Agency

2215
02:57:49,160 --> 02:57:54,260
to determine programming as well as some cost-modelings on the different ideas that they are

2216
02:57:54,260 --> 02:57:56,500
working on for programming for that site.

2217
02:57:57,360 --> 02:58:02,560
And we're planning coming back to the board sometime in June, if not later, with a little bit of a better plan.

2218
02:58:04,200 --> 02:58:09,200
With that said, we have brought some pictures to kind of identify a long way.

2219
02:58:09,780 --> 02:58:17,360
To kind of identify some of the, since we can't bring the board to the sites at this time, we've brought some pictures to the board.

2220
02:58:17,360 --> 02:58:22,620
We have an example of the 1080 first floor remodel, which is an example of a medical exam room.

2221
02:58:23,160 --> 02:58:27,200
We also have the 1080 MLINE exterior paint project that was completed.

2222
02:58:32,210 --> 02:58:36,210
We have a picture of the behavioral health unit building that I just spoke about in Watsonville.

2223
02:58:36,350 --> 02:58:38,410
As you can see, the hunting is up, the paint's on.

2224
02:58:38,990 --> 02:58:42,530
We are just working on landscaping at this time as well as some fire code.

2225
02:58:43,150 --> 02:58:45,510
The picture to the right is the Watsonville Health Center remodel.

2226
02:58:45,590 --> 02:58:48,190
That's the new waiting area.

2227
02:58:53,180 --> 02:58:57,200
So, sir, July 1, is that correct?

2228
02:58:58,140 --> 02:59:00,220
Yes, it is actually done now.

2229
02:59:00,320 --> 02:59:03,440
We're just working on some final finishings for the building,

2230
02:59:04,260 --> 02:59:05,620
but it is done July 1.

2231
02:59:06,380 --> 02:59:06,440
Yes,

2232
02:59:09,340 --> 02:59:10,140
please.

2233
02:59:10,860 --> 02:59:11,420
Thank you.

2234
02:59:12,020 --> 02:59:15,840
In addition, just to highlight some two other projects that we've completed this last year,

2235
02:59:15,960 --> 02:59:18,580
which is the 1070 M.O.A.M. Siding Project,

2236
02:59:18,800 --> 02:59:22,600
as well as the Davenport Communication Project, and those are the total costs.

2237
02:59:23,120 --> 02:59:28,200
With that, from here, we'll transition this over to Director Gaffney, who I believe is Larry.

2238
02:59:28,880 --> 02:59:29,340
Thank you, Mo.

2239
02:59:29,540 --> 02:59:30,860
I appreciate it.

2240
02:59:31,020 --> 02:59:34,880
Jeff Gaffney, Director County Parks, and I'll see if I hold it up.

2241
02:59:34,900 --> 02:59:35,600
There we go.

2242
02:59:36,160 --> 02:59:37,080
I think it likes me better.

2243
02:59:37,980 --> 02:59:40,840
So thank you for listening to some of our projects today.

2244
02:59:41,540 --> 02:59:45,700
We have over 30 somewhat projects that we would like to get done in County Parks,

2245
02:59:45,820 --> 02:59:48,040
but we're highlighting a few of them for you today.

2246
02:59:48,040 --> 02:59:52,580
Shannickler Park, as you may or may not be aware, the heart of Shannickler is actually Leo's haven.

2247
02:59:53,440 --> 02:59:56,680
It is fully funded in under construction right now, and things are going well.

2248
02:59:56,980 --> 02:59:59,980
Very happy to have that moving...

2249
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:03,800
Long on a good timeline, hoping that everything works out, fingers crossed.

2250
03:00:06,540 --> 03:00:11,740
A heart of so-called, this is a completion of the so-called village plan, and we actually were

2251
03:00:11,740 --> 03:00:17,540
very lucky, and actually, I'd say it was some skill with our grant folks in the department as

2252
03:00:17,540 --> 03:00:23,380
well, that we were able to obtain at 1.5 million our grants, so we do have full funding for this project.

2253
03:00:23,780 --> 03:00:29,160
This will connect together main arteries within the community of so-called, and be able to

2254
03:00:29,160 --> 03:00:34,080
can walk to school from a couple of different routes and also do some really solid protection

2255
03:00:34,080 --> 03:00:36,980
of the repairing corridor along there.

2256
03:00:37,460 --> 03:00:44,340
Simpkins Family Swim Center, as we all know, this Swim Center is very popular and it is

2257
03:00:44,340 --> 03:00:49,160
also over 20 years old, there are a number of deferred maintenance items that need to be addressed

2258
03:00:49,160 --> 03:00:53,440
as well as plant construction for a library annex as part of the facility.

2259
03:00:54,180 --> 03:00:58,180
So we're hoping to coincide that construction with the improvements that we can get done

2260
03:00:58,180 --> 03:01:00,460
at that time, we are short a little bit on the funding,

2261
03:01:00,620 --> 03:01:03,540
but we'll continue to look for grants for that.

2262
03:01:04,000 --> 03:01:08,640
Aptos Village Park, a very well-used park, very popular.

2263
03:01:09,320 --> 03:01:11,500
We also have the recent construction of the Aptos Village

2264
03:01:11,500 --> 03:01:14,320
Project itself, in conjunction with that,

2265
03:01:14,420 --> 03:01:17,600
there was a small park that was dedicated to the county.

2266
03:01:18,200 --> 03:01:20,660
So some of the project maintenance that we need to do

2267
03:01:20,660 --> 03:01:23,360
in Aptos Village Park here, probably should be coordinated

2268
03:01:23,360 --> 03:01:25,520
with that to make sure we're not redundant in our services

2269
03:01:25,520 --> 03:01:26,220
that we provide.

2270
03:01:26,220 --> 03:01:32,020
We also have some cosmetic improvements we can do, and probably replace some of the appliances.

2271
03:01:32,580 --> 03:01:36,920
This has become a popular place for weddings, so we'll probably really do some

2272
03:01:36,920 --> 03:01:38,740
improvement in landscaping as well.

2273
03:01:41,000 --> 03:01:45,700
Seek Cliff Village Park, we're very happy to have the opportunity to get a bathroom in

2274
03:01:45,700 --> 03:01:46,000
here.

2275
03:01:46,120 --> 03:01:50,380
This always the big thing for us is we love when we get a bathroom in, so we're hoping to

2276
03:01:50,380 --> 03:01:54,280
get a bathroom and a skate park here within the next six to 12 months.

2277
03:01:55,220 --> 03:02:01,200
And that is, because we're fortunate enough to have a couple of benefactor stepping forward

2278
03:02:01,200 --> 03:02:04,120
to probably help us out with a couple of portion of that project.

2279
03:02:05,380 --> 03:02:06,560
We're working with them right now.

2280
03:02:06,860 --> 03:02:07,420
It's a damn important landing.

2281
03:02:07,620 --> 03:02:08,400
Also a bathroom.

2282
03:02:08,720 --> 03:02:09,900
It can't really go wrong with that.

2283
03:02:09,960 --> 03:02:11,660
It's only taken us three years, but we're there.

2284
03:02:11,940 --> 03:02:13,940
We're actually hoping to do a construction this summer.

2285
03:02:14,880 --> 03:02:17,340
And once again, we get excited about bathrooms at parks.

2286
03:02:19,020 --> 03:02:20,580
And then South County parks.

2287
03:02:20,580 --> 03:02:25,220
We're actually working with both the city of Watsonville and the Fairbord and a couple of

2288
03:02:25,220 --> 03:02:25,680
non-profits.

2289
03:02:25,680 --> 03:02:30,220
We're looking to see where we can best utilize the funding that we have down in South

2290
03:02:30,220 --> 03:02:35,580
County to provide youth services, primarily looking at the potential for soccer fields.

2291
03:02:36,240 --> 03:02:42,860
We're working with a couple of specific identified individuals, stakeholders down there,

2292
03:02:43,080 --> 03:02:47,520
that have some ideas on how we can best utilize it, but I'm taking direction and support

2293
03:02:47,520 --> 03:02:49,700
from the city of Watsonville Parks Department right now.

2294
03:02:51,560 --> 03:02:54,420
I felt an nature discovery park.

2295
03:02:55,020 --> 03:02:59,020
This also, we should be looking at opening bids on June 18th,

2296
03:02:59,480 --> 03:03:03,780
and we think we've reached the complete gap on the funding for this right now,

2297
03:03:03,820 --> 03:03:05,060
as long as our estimates hold,

2298
03:03:05,460 --> 03:03:08,860
we actually will have this completely funded and hopefully built

2299
03:03:08,860 --> 03:03:11,400
almost in conjunction with the library's completion,

2300
03:03:12,200 --> 03:03:14,080
probably within six months after that we're hoping.

2301
03:03:14,800 --> 03:03:16,440
So that concludes the parks courses.

2302
03:03:16,440 --> 03:03:23,140
So as we wrap up here, I would like to also share the recommended action today.

2303
03:03:23,620 --> 03:03:29,440
The action is to direct public works to present our next year's CIP program incorporating

2304
03:03:29,440 --> 03:03:36,020
all changes of the board will adopt as part of the 1920 budget hearings in capital improvement

2305
03:03:36,020 --> 03:03:40,500
program related budget appropriations on or before May 22nd of 2020.

2306
03:03:40,800 --> 03:03:42,660
So next year's update.

2307
03:03:42,660 --> 03:03:47,720
So with that, we are all here and available to answering your questions you may have.

2308
03:03:49,480 --> 03:03:50,560
You bet.

2309
03:03:52,040 --> 03:03:54,880
Hula had college in 152.

2310
03:03:55,460 --> 03:03:56,140
Which is easily,

2311
03:04:01,520 --> 03:04:03,100
has that been to put off again?

2312
03:04:04,520 --> 03:04:11,800
Well, we are wrapping up the final design currently and completing the right-of-way acquisition needed.

2313
03:04:12,200 --> 03:04:18,020
We are short-funded and so we're pursuing funds to complete that project through construction.

2314
03:04:18,020 --> 03:04:25,280
but being shelf-ready is of real value, and so as we wrap up that design and right away this summer

2315
03:04:25,280 --> 03:04:29,620
we'll be in a good position to secure the funds needed to complete the project.

2316
03:04:30,060 --> 03:04:34,600
We don't yet have a schedule because of the funding but we're pursuing it currently.

2317
03:04:35,320 --> 03:04:40,700
You've had, and real quick, the road divided reflectors are constantly road.

2318
03:04:41,240 --> 03:04:47,000
They were coming off. I had a big bag of somebody collected them all off the road.

2319
03:04:47,000 --> 03:04:56,520
what caused that is it was just a lack of glue or the lack of what you know yeah I can't

2320
03:04:56,520 --> 03:05:01,100
really actually say until I'd look at the look the specific situation but thanks for

2321
03:05:01,100 --> 03:05:04,680
noting that and you know obviously we'll have our crews take a look at that and reinstall

2322
03:05:04,680 --> 03:05:09,360
and we're this somebody lives out there brought me two big bags probably about 50

2323
03:05:09,360 --> 03:05:13,280
reflectors I'll make a note of that thank you

2324
03:05:13,280 --> 03:05:19,480
And then the behavioral health center really looking forward to getting that going.

2325
03:05:20,220 --> 03:05:24,720
I want to thank you very much for having that project and the South County.

2326
03:05:25,620 --> 03:05:29,740
And then, Parks, it does say 250,000.

2327
03:05:30,140 --> 03:05:32,200
We have a little bit more than that, don't we?

2328
03:05:32,420 --> 03:05:33,780
From leftover from before.

2329
03:05:34,240 --> 03:05:36,280
It just depends on specifically that there.

2330
03:05:36,400 --> 03:05:38,860
If you're what fund you would specifically be talking about.

2331
03:05:38,980 --> 03:05:41,160
So that's the money we've allocated to work with this city.

2332
03:05:41,160 --> 03:05:44,140
wants to know, but there are some other funds that we have in South County.

2333
03:05:44,440 --> 03:05:50,040
Does that include any new funding that we get from the measure we passed and what was

2334
03:05:50,040 --> 03:05:51,000
measured G?

2335
03:05:51,380 --> 03:05:51,620
That does.

2336
03:05:52,720 --> 03:05:54,760
That's so that was the the portion that was included.

2337
03:05:55,040 --> 03:05:55,060
Yeah.

2338
03:05:55,140 --> 03:05:57,560
There was somebody before to the correct.

2339
03:05:58,360 --> 03:05:58,400
Yes.

2340
03:05:58,580 --> 03:05:58,880
Sorry.

2341
03:05:59,840 --> 03:06:02,840
We have funding in several different.

2342
03:06:03,400 --> 03:06:07,320
There's several different funds depending on the development area and or projects that

2343
03:06:07,320 --> 03:06:07,680
we have.

2344
03:06:07,680 --> 03:06:11,140
also you're probably talking about the unfunded mandate money I think is what you're talking

2345
03:06:11,140 --> 03:06:16,620
about yes we also have some funding that's correct thanks a lot I appreciate it we're going to

2346
03:06:16,620 --> 03:06:20,760
we're going to finally find a place yeah absolutely we're working very hard to and the city

2347
03:06:20,760 --> 03:06:25,380
watching those we're very lucky to have the city parks director down there we do he's very motivated

2348
03:06:25,380 --> 03:06:31,680
and I think we're going to find something together I just want to say ball for parks and everybody's

2349
03:06:31,680 --> 03:06:35,600
district that I just want to make sure we have one of our.

2350
03:06:36,820 --> 03:06:41,540
It's like that line of animal farms, parks should be everywhere except more parks in my district.

2351
03:06:42,960 --> 03:06:48,080
Yeah, this is very encouraging to see that we're able to do some things and I really appreciate

2352
03:06:48,080 --> 03:06:51,860
that good comprehensive report that we have here.

2353
03:06:52,500 --> 03:06:59,600
This is where the people really want to see what we're doing to make better living conditions

2354
03:06:59,600 --> 03:07:03,000
for them, whether it be on the road or in the parks or in the health care facility.

2355
03:07:03,660 --> 03:07:07,660
So if you've covered all the bases and I think you've spread it around very well too.

2356
03:07:07,940 --> 03:07:09,320
So I really appreciate that.

2357
03:07:09,400 --> 03:07:16,520
I know how those and each of our districts are just very excited about the prospect of getting

2358
03:07:16,520 --> 03:07:17,980
to some things done very late.

2359
03:07:17,980 --> 03:07:19,180
So thank you very much.

2360
03:07:21,610 --> 03:07:21,710
Yeah.

2361
03:07:21,770 --> 03:07:22,270
Thank you.

2362
03:07:22,510 --> 03:07:23,810
I just have a couple of questions.

2363
03:07:25,330 --> 03:07:29,970
First of all, I appreciated the inclusion of the agenda on East Cliff Drive.

2364
03:07:30,000 --> 03:07:48,160
I've, you know, what we've seen from the Twin Lakes Beach Fund project is when we make these investments that they make a big difference in the lives of people who live in those neighborhoods and the people who visit the area. Twin Lakes Beach gets over 500,000 visitors a year.

2365
03:07:48,160 --> 03:07:56,380
And it started to do even the first prep work on looking about how we can make it easier for

2366
03:07:56,380 --> 03:08:02,560
people to walk from that beach up to East Cliff Village shopping center changes of the

2367
03:08:02,560 --> 03:08:09,480
economic dynamics in the neighborhood, it increases the livability of her people who live there.

2368
03:08:09,480 --> 03:08:17,440
And it's been a long sought after project that I hope that we would have gotten done before.

2369
03:08:18,300 --> 03:08:22,420
redevelopment one away and now you know we have to find other sources but I

2370
03:08:22,420 --> 03:08:26,260
think what we saw with twin-like speech front is that there you know there's

2371
03:08:26,260 --> 03:08:30,360
support from groups like the Coastal Conservancy and the Commission to support

2372
03:08:30,360 --> 03:08:35,380
these kind of projects that increase coastal access and so getting it to

2373
03:08:35,380 --> 03:08:39,600
just a fall on the list of projects that are never going to get done means that

2374
03:08:39,600 --> 03:08:44,380
we have a better chance of moving this forward so I appreciate that work. I did

2375
03:08:44,380 --> 03:08:51,060
We have one question on the Highway 17 to so-called Court or Re-Surfacing Project.

2376
03:08:51,580 --> 03:08:53,420
North Rode of Gold is listed on there.

2377
03:08:53,600 --> 03:08:58,800
I was a tentative meeting with North Rode of Gold's residents over the weekend concerned

2378
03:08:58,800 --> 03:09:02,160
about fire safety, but part of that is related to the condition of the road.

2379
03:09:02,540 --> 03:09:08,160
We do have some storm repairs there that I know we're not going to get done until 2020, but

2380
03:09:08,160 --> 03:09:16,120
is resurfacing, what can I tell them about the $800,000 that's listed here that might be

2381
03:09:16,120 --> 03:09:17,480
used on Northford Air Gulch?

2382
03:09:18,640 --> 03:09:22,460
So the idea for that project is to implement it as soon as possible.

2383
03:09:22,620 --> 03:09:25,080
I believe that's stiff funding that we have is that right, Casey?

2384
03:09:26,220 --> 03:09:31,440
We've got stiff funding, few more hoops to jump through, then if it was RSTP funding, we'll

2385
03:09:31,440 --> 03:09:32,340
say that.

2386
03:09:33,500 --> 03:09:37,260
But our goal with these resurfacing projects is to get them out on the street as soon

2387
03:09:37,260 --> 03:09:42,240
possible and we try to combine roads where it makes sense geographically so we can get

2388
03:09:42,240 --> 03:09:47,380
you know better bang for our buck. What we'll do in situations where we're re-surfacing

2389
03:09:47,380 --> 03:09:51,680
roads that have existing storm damage will try to make a logical kind of terminate.

2390
03:09:51,760 --> 03:09:56,200
You know before the damage and afterwards but I certainly wouldn't want to stop us from

2391
03:09:56,200 --> 03:10:01,100
re-surfacing you know miles of roadway when we're waiting for you know 100 feet of road

2392
03:10:01,100 --> 03:10:01,720
to be repaired.

2393
03:10:02,380 --> 03:10:09,680
North for the Air Gulch waited five or six years for the damage from the 2011 storms to be

2394
03:10:09,680 --> 03:10:10,000
done.

2395
03:10:10,440 --> 03:10:12,700
And then in the 2017 storms it took some more hits.

2396
03:10:13,460 --> 03:10:20,860
And so the residents understand that Mother Nature is cruel to that road, but the resurfacing

2397
03:10:20,860 --> 03:10:23,320
would really help them out in a lot of different ways.

2398
03:10:23,620 --> 03:10:28,960
And so anything we can do to advance that would be a long way with that neighborhood who's

2399
03:10:28,960 --> 03:10:34,880
waiting for repairs and understands the permitting issues and the funding issues with the storm damage repair.

2400
03:10:35,480 --> 03:10:40,780
Agreed, and I think we have that project specifically program for not this summer, but the following summer, construction 2020.

2401
03:10:41,700 --> 03:10:42,200
All right.

2402
03:10:42,360 --> 03:10:53,500
On parks, one of the things we talked about with Measure G was our capital investments being frontloaded.

2403
03:10:53,500 --> 03:11:02,420
And so people would see that right away, and I want to get your sense of what you think is as going to happen at the farm park at a near-term

2404
03:11:03,180 --> 03:11:06,180
Before the end of the year. Let's say

2405
03:11:06,180 --> 03:11:06,560
I

2406
03:11:06,560 --> 03:11:12,980
Definitely we're pushing everything we can to get something to happen at farm park. It's been a long time coming as you mentioned earlier today

2407
03:11:12,980 --> 03:11:15,400
And we hope to at least get

2408
03:11:16,140 --> 03:11:20,620
Construction started on potentially the bike pump track and or even a

2409
03:11:20,620 --> 03:11:26,300
a taught lot in or the playground area, I don't know that we can get the bridge and that was the

2410
03:11:26,300 --> 03:11:29,420
one thing I was really hoping we could get done this summer, but that may not happen.

2411
03:11:29,940 --> 03:11:36,240
Yeah, I mean, one of those elements that getting done this year would be a go along way to

2412
03:11:37,040 --> 03:11:41,160
telling the folks and so Cal that we're actually moving forward on this project. Absolutely.

2413
03:11:42,340 --> 03:11:46,980
And then the last thing on the harbor vet building, I know that we had a deferral letter today.

2414
03:11:46,980 --> 03:11:48,900
I'm really looking forward to seeing that project.

2415
03:11:50,000 --> 03:11:54,340
And I think there's a real critical need for crisis

2416
03:11:54,340 --> 03:11:57,180
stabilization or something else at that site.

2417
03:11:57,420 --> 03:12:00,160
And so whatever we can do to fast-track that

2418
03:12:00,160 --> 03:12:04,540
will be a long way to addressing a county-wide concern,

2419
03:12:04,920 --> 03:12:06,320
as well as the first district concern.

2420
03:12:11,080 --> 03:12:14,160
I'll be brief and not actually speak specific to my district

2421
03:12:14,160 --> 03:12:16,680
about a more macro component of how the CIP reads,

2422
03:12:16,680 --> 03:12:18,000
and specifically the unprogrammed.

2423
03:12:18,000 --> 03:12:22,860
I appreciate that you are taking a second look at it and maintaining it at least in the short

2424
03:12:22,860 --> 03:12:28,800
term, because as all of these, as all of my colleagues know, we receive a lot of requests

2425
03:12:28,800 --> 03:12:32,680
for service that we cannot initially need, but I think people want to know that it's

2426
03:12:32,680 --> 03:12:33,440
within the system.

2427
03:12:33,640 --> 03:12:36,400
They want to know that it's being looked at, there's been some sort of design, it's been

2428
03:12:36,400 --> 03:12:39,420
costed out, but it's something that's a priority for the county, even if it's not an immediate

2429
03:12:39,420 --> 03:12:39,700
county.

2430
03:12:39,700 --> 03:12:45,020
Something you can point to to show that it is on a list, should there be potentially a federal

2431
03:12:45,020 --> 03:12:47,980
infrastructure bill or something, an infusion of money that we didn't anticipate

2432
03:12:47,980 --> 03:12:53,920
paid. So maintaining that list is important, I believe. I know that it may be cluttered up a little

2433
03:12:53,920 --> 03:12:57,140
bit of the CIP, but it's an important thing for us to be able to point to and I just wanted

2434
03:12:57,140 --> 03:13:02,560
to ensure that that does maintain its existence since the CIP is moving forward. Thank you.

2435
03:13:11,420 --> 03:13:16,740
Hi, good afternoon, Mr. Chairman and members of the Board. Toby got a long-term resident of

2436
03:13:16,740 --> 03:13:21,820
Live Oak. I want to thank the comments of the supervisors already today. I'm standing up here to support

2437
03:13:21,820 --> 03:13:37,280
The project that is a community development project in the list is the Pedestrian Improvement Project, the East Cliff Drive from 7th to 12th otherwise known as B-03-67, it's in the next last page in your recommended CIP.

2438
03:13:37,920 --> 03:13:50,440
Three reasons why I'm here will number one first and foremost is public safety. There's no safe way to make it your way as a pedestrian around that section of East Cliff Drive that wraps around Chwan Lake.

2439
03:13:50,440 --> 03:13:57,200
Number two, it's a vital connection between the county and the city that people use all the time.

2440
03:13:57,440 --> 03:14:00,700
It's part of the sanctuary scenic trail, but it's a gap that we have.

2441
03:14:01,060 --> 03:14:02,780
Number three, it's just completion.

2442
03:14:02,940 --> 03:14:05,100
Don't think of this as a project by itself.

2443
03:14:05,600 --> 03:14:10,920
This project was on a list on the former redevelopment implementation plan for ever along with

2444
03:14:10,920 --> 03:14:16,420
the fifth and like project and the severe successful twin-like speech run program.

2445
03:14:16,420 --> 03:14:19,460
So this is a really continuation of an existing project,

2446
03:14:19,460 --> 03:14:22,340
and we really would like to see it come to reality.

2447
03:14:22,960 --> 03:14:24,220
A couple other quick considerations.

2448
03:14:24,660 --> 03:14:27,140
There's some future undergrounding that might help us along.

2449
03:14:27,700 --> 03:14:30,600
It's mostly within the counties right of way,

2450
03:14:30,780 --> 03:14:32,380
so property acquisition is minimal,

2451
03:14:32,960 --> 03:14:35,480
and it's consistent with your strategic plan.

2452
03:14:35,920 --> 03:14:38,440
So thanks to your staff for putting this,

2453
03:14:38,480 --> 03:14:40,820
resuscitating it from the unfunded CIP list

2454
03:14:40,820 --> 03:14:45,160
into your CIP, and I'm just here to really ask for your support

2455
03:14:45,160 --> 03:14:50,040
to keep this a county priority. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for your

2456
03:14:50,040 --> 03:14:52,780
testimony. I know as someone who works in the public sector. You understand

2457
03:14:52,780 --> 03:14:59,320
how difficult this can be and I can appreciate your continued advocacy. Sure. So that concludes

2458
03:14:59,320 --> 03:14:59,900
public comment.

2459
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:22,440
Right back to the Board of Directors. I just had with the uncertainty of the federal level of some of the federal highway issues. How much would that impact, what we have here, I would be in the transportation sector. I'm sure, but just generally, or do we still wait to try to get them in, I could hit us in the face, but how much of an impact could that have?

2460
03:15:22,440 --> 03:15:28,700
Sure. So if we continue to struggle with the federal highway side as you alluded to,

2461
03:15:30,440 --> 03:15:36,920
that would put a bigger burden on our SB 1 funds for a longer period of time, so that would be less

2462
03:15:36,920 --> 03:15:42,040
future resurfacing dollars. And so that could certainly delay out some of those future

2463
03:15:42,840 --> 03:15:48,940
more general road maintenance type projects. That was our vision for that SB 1 funding was to go into

2464
03:15:48,940 --> 03:15:50,780
roadway resurfacing and maintenance.

2465
03:15:51,280 --> 03:15:54,820
Today we're using as a match for the Federal highways and the FEMA projects.

2466
03:15:55,320 --> 03:15:59,580
And if Federal highways, if we do lose some of that funding, then that would put a greater

2467
03:15:59,580 --> 03:16:00,560
burden on SB1.

2468
03:16:00,880 --> 03:16:03,620
So, it could hurt our maintenance program dramatically.

2469
03:16:05,740 --> 03:16:06,240
Thank you.

2470
03:16:06,960 --> 03:16:07,260
All right.

2471
03:16:07,600 --> 03:16:08,900
So, thank you very much.

2472
03:16:09,480 --> 03:16:10,820
Is this an exception file?

2473
03:16:12,180 --> 03:16:12,460
I don't.

2474
03:16:12,640 --> 03:16:13,680
I'm moved to recommend it.

2475
03:16:13,860 --> 03:16:14,180
Perfect.

2476
03:16:15,140 --> 03:16:20,460
So, motion by, we uphold, second by friend, all those in favor, please say aye.

2477
03:16:21,520 --> 03:16:22,460
That passes unanimously.

2478
03:16:22,900 --> 03:16:23,820
Thank you.

2479
03:16:24,560 --> 03:16:25,080
Thank you.

2480
03:16:25,980 --> 03:16:27,960
We're now going to move into closed session.

2481
03:16:28,100 --> 03:16:29,440
Will there be any reportable action?

2482
03:16:30,560 --> 03:16:30,900
Okay.

2483
03:16:32,380 --> 03:16:35,860
And then we'll return at 1.30 for our afternoon agenda.

2484
03:16:53,950 --> 03:16:54,750
Yeah, we're there.

2485
03:16:54,810 --> 03:16:55,270
They walk it up.

2486
03:16:55,670 --> 03:16:55,830
Yeah.

2487
03:16:55,830 --> 03:16:59,070
I mean it's going to start a little bit.

2488
03:16:59,150 --> 03:16:59,330
I mean it's going to start a little bit.

2489
03:16:59,850 --> 03:17:01,350
I'm going to operate the remote.

2490
03:17:01,770 --> 03:17:02,630
That one's up.

2491
03:17:03,570 --> 03:17:04,530
We'll look into it.

2492
03:17:04,710 --> 03:17:07,270
This is going to start to slide.

2493
03:17:08,610 --> 03:17:10,770
We'll try to start stoking about the conservatory.

2494
03:17:10,950 --> 03:17:12,370
So it's going to start.

2495
03:17:12,370 --> 03:17:12,950
You saw it never.

2496
03:17:14,810 --> 03:17:16,570
That's not going to be enough.

2497
03:17:17,770 --> 03:17:18,830
I don't know what else we'll do.

2498
03:17:19,010 --> 03:17:20,230
That's not going to be enough.

2499
03:17:21,470 --> 03:17:21,850
Yeah.

2500
03:17:23,630 --> 03:17:25,810
That's not going to be enough.

2501
03:17:25,810 --> 03:17:26,770
I don't think that's a problem.

2502
03:17:26,770 --> 03:17:28,950
I don't think that's a problem.

2503
03:17:29,630 --> 03:17:31,730
But in our initial population, we have a lot of people

2504
03:17:31,730 --> 03:17:32,550
that are bald and the herd.

2505
03:17:34,590 --> 03:17:37,810
So I think we can end up having a wide and towards the lake

2506
03:17:37,810 --> 03:17:38,590
that helps a lot of the area.

2507
03:17:39,170 --> 03:17:41,890
And we have a lot of places that we've been waiting for

2508
03:17:41,890 --> 03:17:43,430
and we're even the redeemed fall on the outside.

2509
03:17:43,730 --> 03:17:44,510
It's very, very expensive.

2510
03:17:45,270 --> 03:17:47,530
And when this week's fall, we're not going to have those big places.

2511
03:17:48,750 --> 03:17:49,870
We've got a couple of children.

2512
03:17:50,310 --> 03:17:51,950
I think they're going to die.

2513
03:17:53,290 --> 03:17:58,530
space there's no way everything is about wait something so we use a distance there is

2514
03:18:03,070 --> 03:18:04,030
all

2515
03:18:13,060 --> 03:18:18,480
right good afternoon everybody I'm going to call the meeting back to order I do

2516
03:18:18,480 --> 03:18:23,240
want to announce that the air conditioner is broken so it's hot and here it's not just the

2517
03:18:23,240 --> 03:18:28,880
potential debate we're about to have but it's actually a short of air conditioning so they're

2518
03:18:28,880 --> 03:18:34,640
working on it and hopefully it'll improve in a few minutes so we are going to consider

2519
03:18:34,640 --> 03:18:40,540
the only item on our agenda for this afternoon, which is consider that 2017 to 2019 by

2520
03:18:40,540 --> 03:18:45,680
Annual Report and Presentation of the Surin Services Program, SSP, and direct the Health

2521
03:18:45,680 --> 03:18:50,720
Services Agency to return in September and December 2019 with reports as outlined in

2522
03:18:50,720 --> 03:18:53,100
a memorandum of the Director of Health Services.

2523
03:18:54,780 --> 03:18:56,440
And we have Mimi Hall here to present.

2524
03:19:11,240 --> 03:19:11,660
Thank you.

2525
03:19:11,800 --> 03:19:16,060
I'm very pleased to be here and thank you Chair Coonerty and Honorable Members of the Board.

2526
03:19:16,780 --> 03:19:18,280
I'm here with our intro-

2527
03:19:18,280 --> 03:19:18,580
Hold on.

2528
03:19:18,760 --> 03:19:19,400
Do you have your-

2529
03:19:19,400 --> 03:19:20,760
I want to go close to the microphone.

2530
03:19:22,440 --> 03:19:23,300
Is that better?

2531
03:19:23,540 --> 03:19:23,840
Yes.

2532
03:19:24,060 --> 03:19:24,600
Okay.

2533
03:19:25,840 --> 03:19:26,320
Good afternoon.

2534
03:19:27,060 --> 03:19:30,140
I'm here with our interim health officer, Dr.

2535
03:19:30,240 --> 03:19:33,580
David Guilerducci, and also our director of

2536
03:19:33,580 --> 03:19:37,060
Nursing, who also oversees the Suringe Services Program

2537
03:19:37,060 --> 03:19:39,300
in our Public Health Division, Jen Herrera.

2538
03:19:41,520 --> 03:19:46,040
And we will be-

2539
03:19:46,040 --> 03:19:50,640
requirement to come to the board by annually with report on our syringe services program.

2540
03:19:51,760 --> 03:19:56,520
And I'd like to start off by telling the board that we've worked really hard as a health

2541
03:19:56,520 --> 03:20:02,880
services agency, particularly over the last year, to strengthen our program and our services

2542
03:20:02,880 --> 03:20:08,740
to capitalize and leverage all of the other services that we have expanded over the last couple

2543
03:20:08,740 --> 03:20:14,320
of years, ranging from whole person care, integrated behavioral health, drug medical expansion,

2544
03:20:14,320 --> 03:20:21,500
and our medication assisted treatment program to create a situation in which the syringe services

2545
03:20:21,500 --> 03:20:28,940
program is truly something that is a gateway to the other services that we provide and we feel

2546
03:20:28,940 --> 03:20:36,680
like we've made great strides in that and the other thing that I wanted to mention is we find ourselves

2547
03:20:36,680 --> 03:20:43,280
in a situation today where as a new director I look back over the years and I see that the

2548
03:20:43,280 --> 03:20:49,400
operations of our program has slowly been sort of limited and constrained year after year and we hope

2549
03:20:49,400 --> 03:20:55,000
that we can turn the tides for that and ensure the board that we have the capacity,

2550
03:20:55,340 --> 03:21:01,920
the interest and the ability to provide excellent oversight for this program and use it as, again,

2551
03:21:01,920 --> 03:21:05,960
a lever to enter people into recovery and health care.

2552
03:21:06,580 --> 03:21:07,780
So with that,

2553
03:21:11,440 --> 03:21:16,240
today, you'll be hearing the general overview that you will receive today

2554
03:21:16,240 --> 03:21:21,780
is the background of the County Suringe Services Program, the recent opportunities that I

2555
03:21:21,780 --> 03:21:23,380
briefly spoke of just now.

2556
03:21:23,700 --> 03:21:29,060
An overview of our program, Dr. Gailor Ducci, will be going over the relevant programmatic

2557
03:21:29,060 --> 03:21:29,460
data.

2558
03:21:29,460 --> 03:21:35,740
And then finally we will end with the recommendations that we have as an agency for your board to consider,

2559
03:21:39,210 --> 03:21:41,670
and I'm going to go ahead and turn it over to Jen Herrera.

2560
03:21:44,100 --> 03:21:50,060
So as a reminder, there are four ways to lawfully provide syringe services in California.

2561
03:21:51,300 --> 03:21:56,160
The California Department of Public Health may authorize syringe services programs anywhere in the state.

2562
03:21:56,160 --> 03:22:08,500
City and county governments may authorize SSPs in their jurisdiction, physicians and pharmacies may provide an unlimited number of syringes without a prescription to anyone over the age of 18 and syringes may be prescribed.

2563
03:22:10,700 --> 03:22:14,500
HSA's Surringe Service Program received its authorization through the county.

2564
03:22:17,280 --> 03:22:22,020
A syringe services program provides clean syringes and safe disposal of use syringes.

2565
03:22:22,020 --> 03:22:28,160
they have existed since the 1970s. In the 1980s, baby came more widely available, playing a

2566
03:22:28,160 --> 03:22:29,980
central role in dramatically reducing age.

2567
03:22:30,000 --> 03:22:38,640
A V-infection among people who inject drugs. SSPs are one piece of the harm reduction paradigm for promoting health and safety with people who use drugs.

2568
03:22:39,160 --> 03:22:42,500
And it's never just the syringes. It's always part of a system of care.

2569
03:22:45,820 --> 03:22:53,520
The program is at the intersection of multiple epidemics. It is a well-known evidence-based intervention to prevent HIV and hepatitis C.

2570
03:22:53,900 --> 03:23:02,200
Research indicates that it is also an effective strategy to prevent overdose and other infectious diseases, such as wound botulism, hepatitis A,

2571
03:23:02,200 --> 03:23:05,100
and a craditis and skin is off tissue infections.

2572
03:23:06,400 --> 03:23:11,080
The core purpose of the syringe services programs is to create a safer and healthier community

2573
03:23:11,760 --> 03:23:17,880
by reducing the risk of exposure to infection and disease and by acting as a gateway to integrated services.

2574
03:23:18,620 --> 03:23:26,380
Accessible clean syringes and supplies allows person who inject drugs, the option of using clean equipment with every use.

2575
03:23:26,380 --> 03:23:32,940
This reduces the risk of sharing and reusing equipment which reduces the prevalence of disease and infection in our community.

2576
03:23:33,640 --> 03:23:40,180
By being accessible, the SSB is a gateway for services for a population that does not typically engage with health and social services.

2577
03:23:42,420 --> 03:23:48,420
In this operational period, the landscape of our health systems has evolved on the federal state and local levels.

2578
03:23:48,940 --> 03:23:55,840
The opioid crisis in the state's HIV getting to zero strategic plan has led to the following funding priorities across HSA in the community.

2579
03:23:55,840 --> 03:23:59,960
Whole-person care, drug medical organized delivery system,

2580
03:24:00,480 --> 03:24:03,160
integrated behavioral health, and medication assisted treatment.

2581
03:24:05,240 --> 03:24:08,700
Since 2017, HSA has increased integration

2582
03:24:08,700 --> 03:24:10,380
of these broad reaching initiatives.

2583
03:24:11,040 --> 03:24:13,880
This new capacity created an opportunity to optimize

2584
03:24:13,880 --> 03:24:16,780
SSP as a venue to reach populations who are homeless,

2585
03:24:17,360 --> 03:24:19,320
mentally ill, and struggling with addiction.

2586
03:24:20,080 --> 03:24:22,000
Populations who otherwise would not

2587
03:24:22,000 --> 03:24:24,260
access available health and social services.

2588
03:24:24,260 --> 03:24:33,640
In February 2019, the SSP was reorganized from a stand-alone part-time program to operate within the public health division's communicable disease unit.

2589
03:24:34,280 --> 03:24:43,800
Collaborative planning resulted in a new multidisciplinary staffing structure, which includes public health nurses, public health staff, and certified addiction counseling staff.

2590
03:24:44,320 --> 03:24:50,740
With these changes, the program's metrics and performance indicators are being evaluated for sustainable continuous quality improvement.

2591
03:24:50,740 --> 03:24:58,520
The evolution of the SSP during this operational period supports an improved gateway to healthcare, treatment, services and support.

2592
03:24:59,980 --> 03:25:05,920
Even with HSA's expansion, there are many barriers for people who inject drugs to access services,

2593
03:25:06,400 --> 03:25:12,780
some of which include the Sigma run substance use, personal trauma, being isolated, lack of trust in the system,

2594
03:25:13,200 --> 03:25:17,260
not being ready for change, and the inaccessibility of health and social services.

2595
03:25:17,260 --> 03:25:22,580
It is difficult to outreach to this population since some have not access healthcare in years.

2596
03:25:23,720 --> 03:25:29,380
The Surringe Services Program creates opportunities to connect persons to inject drugs with health and social services.

2597
03:25:30,240 --> 03:25:33,520
People access SSP to reduce harm to themselves in the community.

2598
03:25:34,240 --> 03:25:38,900
With this action, they have a shared responsibility to contribute to a safer environment.

2599
03:25:39,540 --> 03:25:46,460
The SSP builds rapport with participants in a safe space, providing education, referrals, and warm hand-offs to various services.

2600
03:25:46,460 --> 03:25:51,240
It's not just the syringes, the SSP supports an effective system of care.

2601
03:25:53,260 --> 03:25:56,760
Santa Cruz program has three components with very specific goals.

2602
03:25:57,320 --> 03:26:02,660
Distribution and collection has a goal of reducing the risk of exposure to infection in disease in Santa Cruz County

2603
03:26:02,660 --> 03:26:04,240
through safer injection practices.

2604
03:26:05,340 --> 03:26:10,180
Safety disposal has a goal of eliminating syringe litter in public spaces through proper syringe disposal

2605
03:26:10,180 --> 03:26:15,560
and enhanced referrals has a goal of linking participants to clinical, behavioral and social services

2606
03:26:15,560 --> 03:26:17,480
when they determine they are ready for change.

2607
03:26:20,370 --> 03:26:23,470
For distribution and collection, the HSA Divisions Partner

2608
03:26:23,470 --> 03:26:25,830
to provide one for one sewerage distribution

2609
03:26:25,830 --> 03:26:27,930
and collection services at the M-Line

2610
03:26:27,930 --> 03:26:29,370
and Watsonville Clinic locations.

2611
03:26:30,130 --> 03:26:32,470
For a safe disposal, HSA has partnered

2612
03:26:32,470 --> 03:26:33,930
with the Department of Public Works

2613
03:26:33,930 --> 03:26:35,570
to increase coordinated and ongoing

2614
03:26:35,570 --> 03:26:37,230
sewerage disposal in the community

2615
03:26:37,230 --> 03:26:39,970
and maintains three sharpskiyos throughout the county

2616
03:26:39,970 --> 03:26:40,850
for public use.

2617
03:26:41,670 --> 03:26:44,310
The program also provides free personal sharps containers

2618
03:26:44,310 --> 03:26:45,930
and safe disposal education

2619
03:26:45,930 --> 03:26:47,670
for all SSP participants.

2620
03:26:48,990 --> 03:26:53,610
For enhanced referrals, the program maintains a multidisciplinary staffing structure and coordinates

2621
03:26:53,610 --> 03:26:57,470
with clinics, IVH and other services for stream-line referrals.

2622
03:26:58,330 --> 03:27:03,590
The program also provides on-site rapid HIV and hepatitis C testing as well as on-site

2623
03:27:03,590 --> 03:27:05,050
Narcantraining and Distribution.

2624
03:27:08,980 --> 03:27:11,400
Good afternoon, Mr. Chair, boards, board members.

2625
03:27:12,360 --> 03:27:17,800
I'd like to go over some of the data that we've collected through the SSP and I obviously

2626
03:27:17,800 --> 03:27:24,480
We won't read this entire chart to you, but some of the key takeaways I believe are we've

2627
03:27:24,480 --> 03:27:33,620
seen about 7,500 visits across the county for SSP services, this encompasses about 870

2628
03:27:33,620 --> 03:27:34,380
individuals.

2629
03:27:35,660 --> 03:27:40,420
We think we know that the majority of these patients go to the M-Line Clinic, although the

2630
03:27:40,420 --> 03:27:43,440
Watsonville Clinic also sees quite a few.

2631
03:27:43,440 --> 03:27:50,760
Most of these patients are male, most of them inject heroin, although 50% of this group also use

2632
03:27:50,760 --> 03:27:53,920
methamphetamine, which is a significant issue as well.

2633
03:27:56,970 --> 03:28:01,990
Our KIA has actually been quite successful in terms of collecting syringes, and as you can

2634
03:28:01,990 --> 03:28:06,390
see, there has been a 300% increase over the last two years, or three years rather.

2635
03:28:07,090 --> 03:28:14,590
And so that continues to be a significant source of return needles, but when you look at what

2636
03:28:14,590 --> 03:28:21,330
that our SSP sites, the two sites, you see that there's a pretty close match between the number

2637
03:28:21,330 --> 03:28:28,010
of syringes collected and the number of syringes dispensed. In fact, in 2018 we actually collected

2638
03:28:28,010 --> 03:28:36,350
more syringes than we dispensed. And so, I think what that shows between the two slides is about

2639
03:28:36,350 --> 03:28:44,010
900,000 needles. Obviously, since we've only distributed 600,000, that there is a significant

2640
03:28:44,010 --> 03:28:46,090
source of other needles out there in the community.

2641
03:28:48,580 --> 03:28:54,780
Over the years, we've seen a gradual decline in the number of clients that come to our

2642
03:28:54,780 --> 03:28:59,220
services, but the number of syringes distributed has actually increased.

2643
03:29:00,000 --> 03:29:02,000
And this might seem to be a curious relationship.

2644
03:29:02,780 --> 03:29:06,280
The reason for this, we believe, is something called secondary exchange.

2645
03:29:06,920 --> 03:29:13,520
And this is a phenomena where one person may go on behalf of many other people, bring their

2646
03:29:13,520 --> 03:29:18,100
ranges in on there be half and collects ranges back, you know, sterile

2647
03:29:18,100 --> 03:29:22,200
ranges back on there be half. And so we may find more of this kind of

2648
03:29:22,200 --> 03:29:27,640
proxy relationship happening. We believe that this is continues to be a

2649
03:29:27,640 --> 03:29:32,200
important thing to do because these are people that what otherwise not

2650
03:29:32,200 --> 03:29:37,080
necessarily come themselves to the site to get claims ranges. So we believe

2651
03:29:37,080 --> 03:29:42,520
from a safety perspective in terms of preventing disease that it's important.

2652
03:29:42,520 --> 03:29:47,720
And however, we do lose the opportunity to actually interact with the individuals and the

2653
03:29:47,720 --> 03:29:52,180
social services that we want to hook them into, the mental health, the clinical services,

2654
03:29:52,320 --> 03:29:54,460
vaccinations and testing.

2655
03:29:55,940 --> 03:29:57,700
So there's a little bit of a double-edged sword.

2656
03:29:57,840 --> 03:29:59,980
We do believe that secondary exchange is important.

2657
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:08,260
But also need to find ways to increase access to patients that otherwise would not come to us directly at the two clinic sites.

2658
03:30:10,910 --> 03:30:17,130
Looking at HIV, fortunately, the numbers are relatively low, but these are newly diagnosed cases over the years.

2659
03:30:17,570 --> 03:30:25,590
And as you can see, there's been a gradual decline, a significant proportion continue to be persons who inject drugs, the PWID.

2660
03:30:26,650 --> 03:30:33,530
That is probably an artifact of not only new infections, which we believe continue to happen

2661
03:30:33,530 --> 03:30:36,690
despite our efforts, but also our improved detection techniques.

2662
03:30:37,290 --> 03:30:45,190
Now that we have more access to that inject drugs, we're able to test them and identify infections

2663
03:30:45,190 --> 03:30:46,890
that otherwise would not be identified.

2664
03:30:48,050 --> 03:30:50,730
So part of what you're seeing here is that artifact.

2665
03:30:53,580 --> 03:31:00,120
There we go. Hepatitis C, kind of a similar situation here and it would appear on the face

2666
03:31:00,120 --> 03:31:04,560
as though the program itself is not working because it looks like infections are going

2667
03:31:04,560 --> 03:31:08,840
out, but I again want to stress that what we're actually seeing here is increased detection

2668
03:31:08,840 --> 03:31:14,660
and not necessarily new infections. So it's important that we identify people with Hepatitis

2669
03:31:14,660 --> 03:31:19,580
C so that we can make sure that they get the appropriate treatment. In some cases there's

2670
03:31:19,580 --> 03:31:24,180
actually a cure for this, but that can't happen unless we know that they're infected.

2671
03:31:26,480 --> 03:31:32,480
For hepatitis B, we are seeing, again, a similar trend, a downward trend, they're relatively

2672
03:31:32,480 --> 03:31:33,780
known low numbers.

2673
03:31:34,700 --> 03:31:41,100
As you may know, back in the late 90s, hepatitis B vaccinations became routinely available

2674
03:31:41,100 --> 03:31:42,060
to adolescents.

2675
03:31:42,900 --> 03:31:48,540
So I think in the blue bar, what we're seeing mostly here are patients that did not get vaccinated

2676
03:31:48,540 --> 03:31:53,540
for one reason or another, and as the older age groups, of course, probably acquired their

2677
03:31:53,540 --> 03:31:58,560
infections, and never did have an opportunity for vaccinations, so that is a service

2678
03:31:58,560 --> 03:31:59,220
that we offer.

2679
03:32:01,280 --> 03:32:06,240
And then finally, you may remember back in 2017, we had a significant hepatitis A outbreak.

2680
03:32:07,300 --> 03:32:13,220
And you can see that hepatitis A would happen every once in a while in the years prior to 2017.

2681
03:32:13,960 --> 03:32:19,500
But in 2017, this outbreak was clearly amongst the group of people who inject drugs.

2682
03:32:20,340 --> 03:32:27,200
And I think what's important here is that in the orange or the yellow bar, rather, is that

2683
03:32:27,200 --> 03:32:32,200
this is actually a disease process that is so communicable that it broke outside of this kind

2684
03:32:32,200 --> 03:32:33,720
of traditional risk group.

2685
03:32:34,420 --> 03:32:41,030
And so when we think about vaccination, we're, you know, we obviously are concerned about the

2686
03:32:41,030 --> 03:32:47,110
of people who inject drugs, but this is also an issue that affects people who are outside of that community,

2687
03:32:48,430 --> 03:32:55,710
in general public. And my last slide here is what we call an epidemic curve that shows, again,

2688
03:32:56,530 --> 03:33:02,710
the sort of smoldering infection rate for hepatitis A and then this rapid increase that happen in June and July

2689
03:33:02,710 --> 03:33:10,930
of 2017 and again mostly in the PWID group. But as you can see, that's the orange

2690
03:33:10,930 --> 03:33:18,590
the blue bar shows infections in people who are not PWID or a person who inject drugs.

2691
03:33:19,570 --> 03:33:22,470
So you can see how it transferred from one group to the next, right?

2692
03:33:23,310 --> 03:33:29,550
And then the blue line that you see there actually represents the vaccinations that we performed at the SSP.

2693
03:33:30,370 --> 03:33:38,430
And this is I think a good demonstration of how the SSP is kind of the tip of the spear in terms of managing these kinds of outbreaks.

2694
03:33:38,430 --> 03:33:47,570
because as we increased our vaccinations, the PWID group went down as did the people in the non-PWID group.

2695
03:33:48,370 --> 03:33:55,470
So I think it's an important public health avenue to reach people that otherwise are very difficult to reach.

2696
03:34:00,060 --> 03:34:07,240
During this operational period we received feedback on the SSP from the civil grand jury in the SSP advisory group.

2697
03:34:07,280 --> 03:34:11,100
We've used this feedback to develop our recommendations for the program.

2698
03:34:12,160 --> 03:34:20,520
In 2017, the civil grand jury published the following findings and recommendations in its report on the SSP titled Sharper Solutions.

2699
03:34:21,380 --> 03:34:28,380
The findings include that the SSP currently operates without a budget or permanent staff, which hinders the success of program goals.

2700
03:34:29,020 --> 03:34:36,780
Limited hours, space, and staff, hamper referrals to counseling, treatment, and support programs, reducing the number of people receiving assistance.

2701
03:34:36,780 --> 03:34:44,260
Some injection drug users don't travel to SSP sites, thus preventing them from receiving assistance from other health programs.

2702
03:34:45,180 --> 03:34:54,960
The recommendations from this report include that HSA should devote more time and resources to community outreach to promote rehabilitation and counseling of SSP clients.

2703
03:34:55,940 --> 03:35:01,040
HSA should implement a mobile needle exchange unit to increase access to SSP services.

2704
03:35:01,040 --> 03:35:07,480
And HSA should post hazardous waste signs with a single contact number for advice or reporting

2705
03:35:07,480 --> 03:35:11,820
available 24-7 in areas where syringes are commonly found.

2706
03:35:13,910 --> 03:35:20,370
On April 30, 2019, the SSPs advisory group provided the following recommendations, which

2707
03:35:20,370 --> 03:35:24,370
align with best practices noted by the California Department of Public Health.

2708
03:35:24,930 --> 03:35:31,730
This includes increased accessibility of the SSP, maintain secondary exchange, ensure dedicated

2709
03:35:31,730 --> 03:35:37,210
resources for the SSP, improve awareness of current law that prevents criminal prosecution

2710
03:35:37,210 --> 03:35:42,510
for possession of syringes and associated materials, transition to a needs-based distribution

2711
03:35:42,510 --> 03:35:48,910
of syringes, increase accessibility of syringes disposal kiosk, utilize the citizen-connect

2712
03:35:48,910 --> 03:35:53,770
application to report syringe litter, and formalize the advisory board membership.

2713
03:35:55,470 --> 03:36:00,490
Given this feedback, we recommend that your board direct the HSA to implement the following

2714
03:36:00,490 --> 03:36:04,130
recommendations to the Surringe Services Program.

2715
03:36:05,030 --> 03:36:08,310
Expand SSP hours at the Immeline Campus in Watsonville,

2716
03:36:08,550 --> 03:36:10,810
Hust Center up to 20 hours per week,

2717
03:36:11,230 --> 03:36:12,830
as staffing resources become available

2718
03:36:12,830 --> 03:36:14,510
from collaborating programs.

2719
03:36:15,350 --> 03:36:18,350
Incorporate SSP into the homeless person's health project

2720
03:36:18,350 --> 03:36:19,830
clinical field services.

2721
03:36:20,630 --> 03:36:23,170
Collaborate with a California Department of Public Health

2722
03:36:23,170 --> 03:36:25,290
to complete a study of Surringe Liter

2723
03:36:25,290 --> 03:36:27,530
to be conducted in Santa Cruz County

2724
03:36:27,530 --> 03:36:33,310
and return to the board by September 24, 2019 to report on the findings and provide recommendations.

2725
03:36:34,430 --> 03:36:38,830
And choose the results of this orange-liter study to develop a pilot program to reduce public

2726
03:36:38,830 --> 03:36:49,530
orange-liter using the Citizen Connect application and return to the board by December 31, 2019 with a proposed plan implementation and evaluation for the pilot program.

2727
03:36:55,130 --> 03:36:57,690
Thank you, Jen, and Dr. Villager-Ducci.

2728
03:37:00,540 --> 03:37:06,250
With that, I would like to end our presentation by summarizing that the focus of our

2729
03:37:06,250 --> 03:37:10,970
syringe services program is, as Jennifer Herrera mentioned, three-pronged.

2730
03:37:11,230 --> 03:37:17,610
The primary focus is to ensure that we reduce the risk of exposure to diseases that can be

2731
03:37:17,610 --> 03:37:20,210
experienced by persons who inject drugs.

2732
03:37:20,210 --> 03:37:29,970
The second goal or the second prong of our program is to focus on syringe litter regardless of the source of syringe litter and it's clear to us.

2733
03:37:30,000 --> 03:37:42,160
That much of the source of syringe litter comes from outside HSA's program, we feel like public safety is an important and we see ourselves playing a role in overall syringe litter regardless of where it comes from.

2734
03:37:42,460 --> 03:37:58,340
And then thirdly, we really do focus on engaging the community and its stakeholders. We've had a lot of discussions internally amongst staff about methods where we can more efficiently communicate to the public, towards stakeholders.

2735
03:37:58,340 --> 03:38:09,040
And also to those who utilize our services, we recognize that we can learn a lot about how to improve our services and how to reduce the community impacts of those services.

2736
03:38:09,860 --> 03:38:15,320
By talking to the people who avail themselves of the services that we provide.

2737
03:38:16,120 --> 03:38:22,180
Because they provide the most information on how we can best meet their needs as well as serve the needs of the community.

2738
03:38:22,180 --> 03:38:34,500
So with that, we have these recommendations before the board and I will say that these recommendations do fall short of best practices and we do recognize that.

2739
03:38:34,520 --> 03:38:41,320
We make these recommendations based on the funding, the capacity, and the staffing that we have at this moment.

2740
03:38:41,900 --> 03:38:45,340
I would like to add that in the governor's budget that's been proposed.

2741
03:38:45,340 --> 03:38:55,820
And there is funding for specifically for HIV, STDs, and Hepsy, and it's an ongoing allocation

2742
03:38:55,820 --> 03:38:57,200
to local health jurisdictions.

2743
03:38:57,620 --> 03:39:01,980
And there's also $40 million airmarked for chemical disease control.

2744
03:39:02,820 --> 03:39:08,120
And we haven't put those into our budget request for this year, because it's not finalized.

2745
03:39:08,720 --> 03:39:11,380
The budget will be finalized on June 15th.

2746
03:39:11,380 --> 03:39:18,380
Governor has 12 days to respond, but there is a potential source of funding for us to expand

2747
03:39:18,380 --> 03:39:25,480
services if the board would so allow. And three of those funding streams for HIV, STDs,

2748
03:39:25,520 --> 03:39:29,760
and Hep-C will be ongoing allocations. Thank you.

2749
03:39:30,900 --> 03:39:33,780
I want to open it up now for board member questions.

2750
03:39:38,590 --> 03:39:40,750
I mean, there's, I have a lot of questions

2751
03:39:40,750 --> 03:39:47,890
comments. So, I mean, I think I could maybe let's, let's wait and hear from the public.

2752
03:39:48,470 --> 03:39:53,750
So, if you are interested in speaking today, I'd actually to please line up if you can.

2753
03:39:55,570 --> 03:39:57,330
And we'll take testimony.

2754
03:40:01,650 --> 03:40:03,050
This too, yeah.

2755
03:40:04,090 --> 03:40:10,950
Dear supervisors, my name is Rick and Chalberg. I live in the Soquel. I'm a member of John

2756
03:40:10,950 --> 03:40:20,730
of Paul's district, lived here in Santa Cruz in 2002, and I love living here, and I'm

2757
03:40:20,730 --> 03:40:28,070
really concerned about where we are today. We have the numbers on number of homeless people

2758
03:40:28,070 --> 03:40:37,090
here, I think the count is up for debate, but roughly, the number of chronically homeless

2759
03:40:37,090 --> 03:40:44,570
people here has gone from 54 to 62 percent. Just a data point. There's roughly 40 percent

2760
03:40:44,570 --> 03:40:49,530
who have mentally issues, 40 percent who have persistent drug issues and these numbers

2761
03:40:49,530 --> 03:40:50,350
don't change.

2762
03:40:52,750 --> 03:40:57,890
30 percent of these people visit Yale at least once a year as well. I mean,

2763
03:40:58,210 --> 03:41:02,510
I'm bringing this up because you can context of the program here, it matters, because these

2764
03:41:02,510 --> 03:41:05,430
are the customers for this program, largely.

2765
03:41:06,370 --> 03:41:11,710
Now I have a question on the objectives for the syringe program in the mission statement

2766
03:41:11,710 --> 03:41:12,710
that's available online.

2767
03:41:12,850 --> 03:41:14,370
They're really just two objectives.

2768
03:41:14,630 --> 03:41:15,190
Not three.

2769
03:41:15,310 --> 03:41:16,850
Sounds a little bit surprised today.

2770
03:41:17,070 --> 03:41:22,010
Maybe the documentation needs to be updated, but it's about to avoid the spread of disease

2771
03:41:22,630 --> 03:41:25,790
and to address the concerns around syringe later.

2772
03:41:26,090 --> 03:41:27,190
That's it.

2773
03:41:28,030 --> 03:41:31,530
So I don't know where the additional objective comes from.

2774
03:41:31,530 --> 03:41:37,930
I would strongly recommend that you add an objective, though, about rehabilitation and providing

2775
03:41:37,930 --> 03:41:39,930
a way out of drug use.

2776
03:41:40,410 --> 03:41:45,210
To do that, you need to close a massive loophole that you're having in this program.

2777
03:41:45,810 --> 03:41:50,230
The thing that you guys call the secondary exchange, it's not working.

2778
03:41:50,910 --> 03:41:56,630
The only way for that to work is to have professionals who are trained, who are out there

2779
03:41:56,630 --> 03:42:02,350
to provide services to cover all three objectives, assuming that we have those.

2780
03:42:03,270 --> 03:42:08,070
Having someone, I can, I'm sorry, I appreciate it, thank you.

2781
03:42:08,390 --> 03:42:10,350
And we got your, we got your emails earlier.

2782
03:42:12,370 --> 03:42:12,970
Thank you.

2783
03:42:13,110 --> 03:42:18,150
My name is Jennifer Hastings, Dan Hastings, and I'm a family practice physician practicing

2784
03:42:18,150 --> 03:42:20,150
for over 20 years in this community.

2785
03:42:20,190 --> 03:42:26,050
I'm currently at in Compass Community Services, providing MAT, and I work at the Health Improvement

2786
03:42:26,050 --> 03:42:32,590
partnership. I just want to state my support for this range program that the county is proposing.

2787
03:42:32,970 --> 03:42:38,010
I would love to see it move closer to best practices. The comment that was made about

2788
03:42:38,010 --> 03:42:43,770
treatment is incredibly important and one can never force treatment. That is, it needs the

2789
03:42:43,770 --> 03:42:49,470
principles of harm reduction and engagement which was the third piece. And so within engagement

2790
03:42:49,470 --> 03:42:55,490
of both users and our community, I think we can move towards success. But I encourage our community

2791
03:42:55,490 --> 03:43:01,150
to work together and that the principles of harm reduction are incredibly important.

2792
03:43:01,410 --> 03:43:07,990
They follow principles that are working towards evidence-based practices, decreasing this

2793
03:43:07,990 --> 03:43:13,190
spread of disease, increasing healthy behaviors, but we can't do that with force.

2794
03:43:13,370 --> 03:43:14,190
Thank you.

2795
03:43:17,230 --> 03:43:17,370
Hi.

2796
03:43:17,490 --> 03:43:18,050
Good afternoon.

2797
03:43:18,130 --> 03:43:19,550
My name is Gabrielle.

2798
03:43:19,630 --> 03:43:21,790
I am a constituent of John Leopold.

2799
03:43:21,790 --> 03:43:27,630
I'm also a member of Take Vaccina Cruises Needle Solutions Team and I also happen to be an

2800
03:43:27,630 --> 03:43:40,630
So the team asked me to take a look at a practice that's been happening recently and that is a third party non-profit group going to the Syrian services program and using

2801
03:43:41,710 --> 03:43:49,310
signing up as clients and getting hundreds of needles under the open secondary exchange provisions.

2802
03:43:49,310 --> 03:43:54,110
So the question was, is that permissible under the Health and Safety Code, I'd term into

2803
03:43:54,110 --> 03:43:54,650
no?

2804
03:43:55,090 --> 03:43:59,350
Is that permissible under the SSP's own policies and preach seizures?

2805
03:44:00,410 --> 03:44:00,590
No.

2806
03:44:01,010 --> 03:44:04,550
There's only two ways that a syringe program like that can be authorized.

2807
03:44:05,130 --> 03:44:10,350
One is by the state and one in accounting such as this is by the county board of suit

2808
03:44:10,350 --> 03:44:10,710
providers.

2809
03:44:11,110 --> 03:44:18,110
And there has been no authorization by this board for a third party group to be passing out

2810
03:44:21,530 --> 03:44:29,870
The code makes it very clear that it has to be both board and the health officer, not just the health officer unilaterally.

2811
03:44:30,870 --> 03:44:35,270
It's also not permissible by the SSP's own policy.

2812
03:44:36,410 --> 03:44:44,310
Clients and SSP participants is not defined, but obviously that would mean IV drug users or close friends and family.

2813
03:44:44,990 --> 03:44:50,570
So some just suggestions to close this loophole, so it doesn't happen again.

2814
03:44:52,090 --> 03:44:56,610
The policies and procedures could be amended to add a cap on the number of syringes

2815
03:44:56,610 --> 03:44:59,430
given out a secondary because we recognize there will be situations.

2816
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:11,940
Where there needs to be a secondary exchange, so limit that number or explicitly state that syringes can't be picked up and distributed by a whole unauthorized group.

2817
03:45:13,340 --> 03:45:23,140
And then also on page 12 of the syringe policy, there's a list of reasons for termination of participants, so that could be amended as well. Thank you.

2818
03:45:25,320 --> 03:45:31,700
Hey, my name is Sharon. I'm a 43 year resident of Santa Cruz County and I'm a

2819
03:45:31,700 --> 03:45:37,260
constituent of a supervisor, Mick Fiercen. First I want to thank you all for this

2820
03:45:37,260 --> 03:45:42,500
presentation. I know that was a lot of hard work and I fully support the county

2821
03:45:42,500 --> 03:45:47,760
in expanding its syringe services program, increasing hours. If you can get more

2822
03:45:47,760 --> 03:45:53,100
staff, I'm happy to hear there's possibly more money allocated for that. I think

2823
03:45:53,100 --> 03:45:57,220
It's extremely important that clients that come in here

2824
03:45:57,220 --> 03:46:00,200
get the wrap around services that are available.

2825
03:46:02,200 --> 03:46:05,920
The window of opportunity, when an addict wants to get clean

2826
03:46:05,920 --> 03:46:09,760
is so small, I'm in long-term recovery from the addiction.

2827
03:46:10,160 --> 03:46:13,220
I was blessed to have somebody to talk to to hold my hand

2828
03:46:13,220 --> 03:46:18,300
through that time and she was a long string of people

2829
03:46:18,300 --> 03:46:19,820
that helped save my life.

2830
03:46:19,820 --> 03:46:25,160
when I was in treatment, I read something alcohol and drugs gave me wings and then they took

2831
03:46:25,160 --> 03:46:33,060
away this sky. That might not resonate with everybody, but I finally saw that somebody knew

2832
03:46:33,060 --> 03:46:39,960
how I felt. And addiction is complicated and can't be summed up in one sentence, but it gave

2833
03:46:39,960 --> 03:46:49,800
it words. And I've been graced with over 27 years clean now and comforted and knowing that if a

2834
03:46:49,800 --> 03:46:54,700
of opportunity to open up that someone could say here, come on, let's get you in treatment.

2835
03:46:56,180 --> 03:47:00,620
Secondary syringe services run by volunteers cannot offer that.

2836
03:47:01,160 --> 03:47:05,860
And I took a look at the Santa Cruz County harm reduction coalition Facebook page,

2837
03:47:06,140 --> 03:47:10,880
and saw a post that said, at it is hate speech to oppress drug users.

2838
03:47:11,320 --> 03:47:16,960
Those are not the people you want handing out syringes that are people that are suffering out there.

2839
03:47:16,960 --> 03:47:22,640
that narrative and delivering needles is assisting them in suicide on the installment plan.

2840
03:47:23,220 --> 03:47:27,260
And I don't talk about this from judgment. I talk about it from the experience.

2841
03:47:28,960 --> 03:47:30,060
That's it. Thank you.

2842
03:47:34,000 --> 03:47:40,160
Hello board members. My name is Gus Gusman and I've been a heroin addict for 15 years

2843
03:47:40,160 --> 03:47:48,620
and lived here all my life. I was part of the law and partner of the met program and also

2844
03:47:51,200 --> 03:47:56,820
The syringe program, you know, it worked for me, I was part of that, and accountability

2845
03:47:56,820 --> 03:47:57,480
part.

2846
03:47:57,800 --> 03:48:01,260
You get one needle, you get one needle back, you know, you get five, you get one back.

2847
03:48:02,860 --> 03:48:10,360
I hear that, you know, and I don't know where it comes from, but that needle exchange promotes

2848
03:48:10,360 --> 03:48:11,320
drug use.

2849
03:48:11,820 --> 03:48:18,220
And 15 years of me using, I never once heard anybody say, well, I saw the needle program,

2850
03:48:18,220 --> 03:48:24,200
I'm going to go use some Maryland, you know, it doesn't work that way, you know.

2851
03:48:24,760 --> 03:48:32,260
But it worked, before I was involved in a New York sin program, I got diagnosed with

2852
03:48:32,260 --> 03:48:38,840
hepatitis C, you know, and I wish I had that long time ago, maybe I wouldn't have gotten

2853
03:48:38,840 --> 03:48:39,440
it.

2854
03:48:39,440 --> 03:48:53,240
But, you know, it's time that the county that you get involved in this addiction potential

2855
03:48:53,240 --> 03:49:01,160
for spreading diseases is really big, you know, I believe in the program and, you know,

2856
03:49:01,860 --> 03:49:03,120
I hope for the best for this county.

2857
03:49:03,580 --> 03:49:04,100
Thank you.

2858
03:49:09,900 --> 03:49:10,460
Good afternoon.

2859
03:49:11,240 --> 03:49:16,300
My observation of the SSP is that in order for it to be successful in this primary mission,

2860
03:49:16,460 --> 03:49:20,080
which is to stop the spread of disease, two things must happen.

2861
03:49:21,120 --> 03:49:26,300
The program must be as transparent as possible, and addiction must be taken seriously.

2862
03:49:26,660 --> 03:49:28,700
Today, neither has happened.

2863
03:49:29,200 --> 03:49:34,120
The program policies last published revision was five years ago, despite their own requirements

2864
03:49:34,120 --> 03:49:35,600
that they'd be updated annually.

2865
03:49:35,760 --> 03:49:36,720
You guys said nothing.

2866
03:49:37,560 --> 03:49:45,120
The SSP claims that they are unable to physically count collected syringes, I'd dislike those who say they can't do something.

2867
03:49:46,000 --> 03:49:48,680
One for one is a non-starter for me.

2868
03:49:49,320 --> 03:49:51,880
Figure out how to do it. You're all college graduates.

2869
03:49:52,740 --> 03:49:54,440
It should be easy for you. I've got a GED.

2870
03:49:55,280 --> 03:49:57,260
And I can think of half a dozen ways to do it safely.

2871
03:49:58,660 --> 03:50:02,400
Include the public and every opportunity before making changes to the program.

2872
03:50:02,980 --> 03:50:09,080
As anyone reached out to the neighbourhood surrounding, the MLA clinic, regarding expanded hours.

2873
03:50:10,380 --> 03:50:15,660
If an opioid addiction is a health crisis and treated as such, secondary exchange must

2874
03:50:15,660 --> 03:50:17,660
be eliminated from the program services.

2875
03:50:18,420 --> 03:50:23,060
I would cite that the recent example of the coalition road show and the death misery

2876
03:50:23,060 --> 03:50:27,600
and destruction they were allowed to create, addicts need to be seen in a clinical setting

2877
03:50:27,600 --> 03:50:31,220
by health care professionals, or subject to local oversight.

2878
03:50:37,900 --> 03:50:39,800
Hello, my name is Carol Pohamis.

2879
03:50:39,840 --> 03:50:41,960
Thank you for listening to my comments.

2880
03:50:42,960 --> 03:50:45,680
I'm a retired teacher and high school principal.

2881
03:50:45,960 --> 03:50:50,520
I ran two environmentally focused high school programs in Santa Cruz County.

2882
03:50:50,900 --> 03:50:56,340
And in the course of our study we would take kids high school students out to the beach to beach cleanups routinely.

2883
03:50:57,240 --> 03:51:00,940
Ten years ago was extremely rare to find a needle on the beach.

2884
03:51:00,940 --> 03:51:04,040
Now, it's extremely rare not to find one.

2885
03:51:04,700 --> 03:51:08,220
I understand the whole concept of harm reduction, and I believe in it.

2886
03:51:08,460 --> 03:51:12,300
I also don't think it should come at the cost of public safety.

2887
03:51:12,920 --> 03:51:14,700
We need to have accountable programs.

2888
03:51:14,820 --> 03:51:19,760
We need to have programs with expanded hours of necessary, run by professional people

2889
03:51:19,760 --> 03:51:24,800
who again can offer counseling to people at that golden moment when they might be open

2890
03:51:24,800 --> 03:51:25,700
to the suggestion.

2891
03:51:25,700 --> 03:51:35,740
to allow volunteers who are untrained, even though eager, to distribute hyperduring needles is irresponsible.

2892
03:51:36,680 --> 03:51:38,420
Please think about that.

2893
03:51:44,000 --> 03:51:49,020
I, my name is Mai Dal and I am of been a resident amount of hermen for 20 years.

2894
03:51:49,400 --> 03:52:00,220
And I'm here today to offer my strong support for the Nail Exchange Program and for the harm reduction coalition as an active part of San Cruz initiative for the health of its city.

2895
03:52:00,220 --> 03:52:03,760
Today, June 11th, would have been my older sister's birthday.

2896
03:52:04,020 --> 03:52:09,900
She died a couple of years ago at the young age of 62 of early onset Alzheimer's that was

2897
03:52:09,900 --> 03:52:14,580
no doubt due to the chronic use of opioids and prescription drugs.

2898
03:52:15,180 --> 03:52:17,960
I've asked this question over and over and over all this time.

2899
03:52:18,140 --> 03:52:19,180
Why my older sister?

2900
03:52:19,640 --> 03:52:20,100
Why not?

2901
03:52:20,240 --> 03:52:21,560
Me or my older brother?

2902
03:52:22,120 --> 03:52:26,220
We came from the same privilege background growing up in Cupertino attending one of the best

2903
03:52:26,220 --> 03:52:26,820
high schools.

2904
03:52:26,820 --> 03:52:29,920
What I do know is that this is a very complicated

2905
03:52:30,000 --> 03:52:36,740
It had questioned to which there are no simple answers, answers I have racked and searched for, and that I'm still searching for years later.

2906
03:52:37,420 --> 03:52:53,040
What was already an epidemic years ago, when my sister became a chronic user, is only worsened by several waves since then, and it's been hitting our community, especially hard since the introduction and chronic use of pharmaceuticals.

2907
03:52:53,040 --> 03:52:56,440
The long-term effects are only starting to be felt by this way.

2908
03:52:56,800 --> 03:53:02,020
The bottom line is no one in this room will be unaffected by chronic drug use,

2909
03:53:02,200 --> 03:53:04,300
either they're owned or by a family member.

2910
03:53:05,100 --> 03:53:08,400
They are all your family members, the chronic users in this city.

2911
03:53:08,580 --> 03:53:15,160
They may be in another city, but we shouldn't be othering them anymore than those people

2912
03:53:15,160 --> 03:53:19,260
we seek to hopefully help our own family members in another city.

2913
03:53:19,260 --> 03:53:26,000
Pretty much my entire family abandoned my sister when she was struggling with her opioid use.

2914
03:53:26,580 --> 03:53:35,620
So we do we want to abandon our citizens in this, I don't have a problem with people not caring,

2915
03:53:35,840 --> 03:53:39,380
or bearing their heads and their heads in the sand about it.

2916
03:53:39,380 --> 03:53:46,740
But I do have a problem with them throwing branches and intimidating and harassing anyone willing to help.

2917
03:53:46,740 --> 03:53:51,220
Please I implore you, bring these vital services to our county.

2918
03:54:06,380 --> 03:54:11,080
I board members of my name is Jennifer Rainford Brown and I'm here in support

2919
03:54:11,080 --> 03:54:13,240
of the County Surin Jax S program.

2920
03:54:13,720 --> 03:54:19,700
I am part of the harm reduction coalition and I have been out for every single outreach.

2921
03:54:20,440 --> 03:54:25,940
I'm an employee right now of Beckin and Dickerson and I'm a biomed tech.

2922
03:54:26,440 --> 03:54:29,540
I also work for the Public Authority here in Santa Cruz.

2923
03:54:30,580 --> 03:54:35,720
I have a degree in political science, I'm masters in criminal law, from the College of Women

2924
03:54:35,720 --> 03:54:36,600
and Mary in Virginia.

2925
03:54:37,880 --> 03:54:44,220
I have been part of harm reduction for a while, I have a son who has a substance used

2926
03:54:44,220 --> 03:54:45,400
to sort of use 25.

2927
03:54:45,980 --> 03:54:46,740
He's in Virginia.

2928
03:54:47,100 --> 03:54:48,420
He's OD3 times.

2929
03:54:49,100 --> 03:54:57,760
He has now contracted hepatitis and he is in and out of rehabilitation because they actually

2930
03:54:57,760 --> 03:55:08,920
beds there. So they, I am here because the county allows what the state allows. And

2931
03:55:08,920 --> 03:55:18,000
they help in safety codes. 1, 2, 1, 3, 4, 9, 0.1, 3, allow secondary exchange. If we

2932
03:55:18,000 --> 03:55:25,000
didn't do that, things like my neighbor who just contracted HIV because she didn't know she

2933
03:55:25,000 --> 03:55:36,300
was having sexual intercourse with a man who had HIV or was HIV or AIDS and now she is 49

2934
03:55:36,300 --> 03:55:40,620
years old and she never used to drug in her life.

2935
03:55:41,100 --> 03:55:47,360
I'm asking you guys to just go buy what the state recommends in Rona, Virginia.

2936
03:55:48,120 --> 03:55:54,980
They went buy what best practices here in California and they almost eliminated serenity

2937
03:55:54,980 --> 03:56:04,260
later. It was horrible. And open up the beds, open up the hours, just allow us to refer

2938
03:56:04,260 --> 03:56:06,840
people more people to services.

2939
03:56:08,400 --> 03:56:08,720
Please.

2940
03:56:21,720 --> 03:56:27,180
Good afternoon. My name is Erin McLaughlin. I'm a senior manager of Residential Services

2941
03:56:27,180 --> 03:56:34,140
for encompass community services. And two of our programs are C. C. Boyde and Santa Cruz

2942
03:56:34,140 --> 03:56:39,380
recovery services, which are substance use disorder treatment plans.

2943
03:56:41,380 --> 03:56:47,160
I am speaking in support of the county syringe services program, and here's why.

2944
03:56:49,960 --> 03:57:02,840
To decrease the rates of HIV and hepatitis in our community and to increase treatment opportunities for people in this county who struggle with opioid addiction.

2945
03:57:04,090 --> 03:57:11,090
A study by the CDC in 2018 found that syringe distribution programs decrease the frequency

2946
03:57:11,090 --> 03:57:17,450
of syringe sharing and reuse, and this has significant impacts on decreasing the rates

2947
03:57:17,450 --> 03:57:24,630
of infectious diseases like HIV and hepatitis, which is often spread through sharing needles.

2948
03:57:25,330 --> 03:57:30,730
The study also found that people who participate in programs like the syringe services program

2949
03:57:30,730 --> 03:57:34,390
are more likely to seek treatment for substance use disorders.

2950
03:57:35,130 --> 03:57:40,030
This program is an important part of the continuum of care, and Santa Cruz that leads

2951
03:57:40,030 --> 03:57:46,370
clients to participate in the treatment programs like SIRR and CCAPWETA.

2952
03:57:48,210 --> 03:57:54,570
So in closing, I'd like to urge your support for this very important program, which helps

2953
03:57:54,570 --> 03:58:00,250
people in Santa Cruz County find their way to treatment and ultimately, a path towards health

2954
03:58:00,250 --> 03:58:02,470
recovery. Thank you very much.

2955
03:58:06,440 --> 03:58:09,280
Good afternoon. I'm a constituent of

2956
03:58:09,280 --> 03:58:13,260
Zach friend. My name is Katrina Liesma. I'm a nurse and associate

2957
03:58:13,260 --> 03:58:17,100
marriage and family therapist working at the Medication Assisted Program

2958
03:58:17,100 --> 03:58:21,660
and in Compass Community Services. Matt services are not directly involved

2959
03:58:21,660 --> 03:58:26,940
with the Suringe Services Program but I serve the same clients and we are part of

2960
03:58:26,940 --> 03:58:30,460
the substance use disorder treatment services for this county. Our

2961
03:58:30,460 --> 03:58:32,880
production is much more than needle exchange.

2962
03:58:33,120 --> 03:58:37,600
It is a practical approach to help people change with safety, front and center.

2963
03:58:38,140 --> 03:58:43,480
What I see by working daily with this population is that meeting with people exactly where

2964
03:58:43,480 --> 03:58:47,820
they are leads to trusting relationships where people are more likely to ask for help,

2965
03:58:48,080 --> 03:58:53,960
make safer choices, seek and receive medical and behavioral healthcare, and keep coming back.

2966
03:58:54,520 --> 03:59:00,220
Because of the surge services and other outreach programs, many of my clients and our

2967
03:59:00,220 --> 03:59:05,020
community members have been linked to our services, which help them recover and stop using.

2968
03:59:06,080 --> 03:59:11,400
I support an expansion of the SSP. Services Santa Cruz County needs to adopt a

2969
03:59:11,400 --> 03:59:15,000
harm reduction model of care for providing these services. Thank you.

2970
03:59:17,520 --> 03:59:20,780
I'm crashing. Sorry, can I ask you, ma'am, can I ask you a question?

2971
03:59:22,500 --> 03:59:24,160
So I'm pleased to come to the floor to come back to the microphone.

2972
03:59:25,320 --> 03:59:30,740
Which is where everyone here is interested in getting more people connected to treatment and

2973
03:59:30,740 --> 03:59:36,800
lining the syringe services. We constantly ask how many people from syringe services are getting

2974
03:59:36,800 --> 03:59:42,720
Matt and getting rolled and the answer is we don't know because it's anonymous. But if you

2975
03:59:42,720 --> 03:59:47,840
just made a claim that you get a lot, can you tell me what percentage of your new clients

2976
03:59:47,840 --> 03:59:53,980
are SSP users or they monthly users? How do we know this?

2977
03:59:54,300 --> 03:59:59,980
That's a really good question. I don't have specific numbers. I can tell you that this

2978
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:13,780
Population tends to be rather chaotic. They can't remember things. Their day to day living is really chaotic, so they don't necessarily track these kind of things.

2979
04:00:15,320 --> 04:00:28,120
I can't give you numbers, but I'm sure we can probably find some at some point. But I know that the continuation of care as other people have spoke of, the connection to all these services happens as a partnership, a community partnership.

2980
04:00:28,820 --> 04:00:35,620
it's a porous, a non-porous system, and I see people that come in and out of all these different

2981
04:00:35,620 --> 04:00:42,480
services, outpatient, inpatient, raw scamp, treatment, out, you know, the whole thing, right?

2982
04:00:43,000 --> 04:00:45,820
So I think going forward would be very good to get this information.

2983
04:00:46,520 --> 04:00:47,520
Right now it's anecdotal.

2984
04:00:47,740 --> 04:00:48,440
Right, thank you.

2985
04:00:48,480 --> 04:00:48,840
Thank you.

2986
04:00:52,620 --> 04:00:56,720
I can just add there is also lots of documented research if you wanted us to share that with you

2987
04:00:56,720 --> 04:00:57,680
outside of Santa Cruz.

2988
04:00:58,700 --> 04:00:59,480
I'm more, yes.

2989
04:00:59,540 --> 04:01:01,000
I'm interested in Santa Cruz, but yeah.

2990
04:01:01,000 --> 04:01:05,660
Okay. Good afternoon. My name is Savannah O'Neill and I'm a manager at the National

2991
04:01:05,660 --> 04:01:09,420
Hermit Action Coalition, which is a national capacity building in advocacy agency.

2992
04:01:09,980 --> 04:01:14,360
I have 12 years of providing volunteer search service programs. I'm a addiction, treatment

2993
04:01:14,360 --> 04:01:19,560
counselor and social worker. And I first worked in search exchange programs here in Santa Cruz

2994
04:01:19,560 --> 04:01:25,440
in 2008 for five years. In my current rural, I work statewide to strengthen community-based

2995
04:01:25,440 --> 04:01:28,580
perm reduction programs, link people to care, and build safer communities.

2996
04:01:29,440 --> 04:01:34,620
I support county run, organization run, and volunteer run programs across the state, all who provide

2997
04:01:34,620 --> 04:01:36,280
essential life-saving services.

2998
04:01:36,700 --> 04:01:41,860
I support expanding services and Santa Cruz County, currently only 20% of Santa Cruz residents

2999
04:01:41,860 --> 04:01:46,360
live within five miles of a syringe exchange program, making it really difficult for people to

3000
04:01:46,360 --> 04:01:46,860
access.

3001
04:01:47,420 --> 04:01:50,680
So with the additional mobile services, we know we would reach more people.

3002
04:01:50,680 --> 04:01:55,700
When we look at HIV rates, hepatitis C rates, and overdose across all California counties,

3003
04:01:56,200 --> 04:02:00,560
and we compare to Santa Cruz, Santa Cruz is at a high comparative rate of a potential HIV

3004
04:02:00,560 --> 04:02:05,900
outbreak, and Santa Cruz has far more restrictive and less services than most counties

3005
04:02:05,900 --> 04:02:10,960
in California, reducing people's chances to connect and the most marginalized people.

3006
04:02:11,540 --> 04:02:16,520
In 2017, hermediction coalition, the National Organization conducted a need assessment

3007
04:02:16,520 --> 04:02:22,100
where we talk to 70 people who use drugs and providers in the county, and we heard that they were

3008
04:02:22,100 --> 04:02:26,380
mostly only having contact with outreach workers, and those outreach workers were essential

3009
04:02:26,380 --> 04:02:31,360
links to healthcare and treatment offering people support in the field. For these reasons, I support

3010
04:02:31,360 --> 04:02:35,560
the expansion of services that we know are based in evidence, save lives, reduce infections,

3011
04:02:35,800 --> 04:02:40,220
and treat people with humanity. I also support because people in the county want these services,

3012
04:02:40,320 --> 04:02:43,370
and they want to be a county that stands in support of public health. Thank you.

3013
04:02:47,350 --> 04:02:47,830
Hi.

3014
04:02:48,030 --> 04:02:48,290
Good afternoon.

3015
04:02:48,390 --> 04:02:49,590
My name is Jenna Haywood.

3016
04:02:49,690 --> 04:02:53,590
I'm also with the national harm reduction coalition that was my colleague Savannah.

3017
04:02:54,190 --> 04:02:57,510
I won't repeat some of what she said about the statistics we know in Santa Cruz.

3018
04:02:57,670 --> 04:03:01,850
But I will share that I'm also someone who is an IV drug user for over a decade.

3019
04:03:02,010 --> 04:03:04,150
And I now do consider myself to be in recovery.

3020
04:03:04,650 --> 04:03:08,950
And I want to talk about the fact that we need more, not less tools for people who use drugs,

3021
04:03:09,130 --> 04:03:14,570
people seeking recovery, or people just seeking to stay alive and whatever state they happen to be in a net day.

3022
04:03:14,570 --> 04:03:20,330
So when I hear a lot of people talk about the fact that secondary syringe programs are not equipped to

3023
04:03:20,330 --> 04:03:25,830
actually serve the needs of people who use drugs, I want to talk about my own experience with peer-based support.

3024
04:03:26,290 --> 04:03:30,250
That yes, I have used medical providers and I have gone to the doctor for support,

3025
04:03:30,470 --> 04:03:35,410
but when I struggle with my recovery, I go to peers because I know that is what works for me.

3026
04:03:35,670 --> 04:03:40,570
And so why wouldn't that model of peer-based services and harm reduction also be effective?

3027
04:03:40,690 --> 04:03:42,350
And in fact, we know that it is.

3028
04:03:42,350 --> 04:03:46,930
there is ample evidence to show that peer-based support is what works for people.

3029
04:03:47,510 --> 04:03:51,590
I also want to mention that we have advocated at the National Heart Reduction Coalition

3030
04:03:51,590 --> 04:03:57,930
for money in the state budget this year for peer navigators to link people to treatment who

3031
04:03:57,930 --> 04:04:02,610
access services that syringe services programs. So it is at the governor's desk right now.

3032
04:04:02,710 --> 04:04:08,250
There'll be $15 million every authorized syringe program syringe services program can have a

3033
04:04:08,250 --> 04:04:12,270
peer navigator. Why did we do this? Because we talked to people who use drugs that said

3034
04:04:12,270 --> 04:04:13,570
We want to get into treatment.

3035
04:04:14,030 --> 04:04:18,190
We don't necessarily trust mainstream medical providers all the time for different reasons

3036
04:04:18,190 --> 04:04:20,750
because of oppression, because of trauma.

3037
04:04:21,310 --> 04:04:24,830
And so there actually are going to these programs, and that's what's helping to link them

3038
04:04:24,830 --> 04:04:25,310
to care.

3039
04:04:25,590 --> 04:04:29,390
But programs don't have enough money to do that warm hand off, to actually help somebody

3040
04:04:29,390 --> 04:04:30,670
get to the treatment provider.

3041
04:04:31,350 --> 04:04:36,210
And so with this funds, hopefully it will pass, and this will allow Santa Cruz some

3042
04:04:36,210 --> 04:04:40,010
more resources to meet that unmet need.

3043
04:04:40,010 --> 04:04:45,190
but we have to support all of the different kinds of ways of reaching these people, and that's why

3044
04:04:45,190 --> 04:04:49,670
I encourage you to expand these services, but also to really rethink the secondary syringe.

3045
04:04:49,950 --> 04:04:52,030
It's legal and it works. Thank you.

3046
04:04:57,750 --> 04:05:03,450
Hello, my name is Patricia Olson-Riman, and I am a 40-plus-year resident of San Andrews County,

3047
04:05:04,430 --> 04:05:09,310
and my children have come to go on the public school here. My husband has his own business here,

3048
04:05:09,570 --> 04:05:12,610
and I've been working in the non-profit world for over 20 years here.

3049
04:05:12,610 --> 04:05:21,790
Right now, I am the program manager of the San Cruz AIDS Project at in Compass Community Services as well as I work with the in Compass Matt program.

3050
04:05:22,710 --> 04:05:30,250
I'm only here to just say a couple things and mostly is that it's highly imperative that we support the SSP.

3051
04:05:30,850 --> 04:05:40,690
If not the best practices watching the presentation was really wonderful to watch, but the 20 hours a week was kind of a little bit of a discrepancy for me.

3052
04:05:41,370 --> 04:05:45,710
Working in the nonprofit world, we are working in the frontline, very rarely do you come

3053
04:05:45,710 --> 04:05:50,290
to a situation such as this and see reports such as the presentation today, we're working

3054
04:05:50,290 --> 04:05:52,210
with the people every day.

3055
04:05:52,970 --> 04:06:00,530
And we are seeing their suffering, we're seeing the disease and how it's progressing and we're

3056
04:06:00,530 --> 04:06:03,130
seeing their isolation and depression and anxiety.

3057
04:06:04,030 --> 04:06:09,670
And so I think, but I just want to say, as I just, you know, we really want to support

3058
04:06:09,670 --> 04:06:14,370
the county's program. And I want the county to work with us. I think that's the other key

3059
04:06:14,370 --> 04:06:18,350
thing. I think there's a missing link and really working together with encompassed

3060
04:06:18,350 --> 04:06:23,810
resources that map program in the Santa Cruz AIDS project. We're seeing the people at our

3061
04:06:23,810 --> 04:06:28,430
offices and we need to be able to have that relationship with the county to work with them

3062
04:06:28,430 --> 04:06:33,470
closely so that we can have them over and have them do the hand warm off to the medical

3063
04:06:33,470 --> 04:06:35,510
services there. Thank you.

3064
04:06:40,650 --> 04:06:43,310
Good afternoon board. My name is Damon Bruder. I'm an addict and a

3065
04:06:44,450 --> 04:06:46,090
I'm here with my personal experiences.

3066
04:06:46,410 --> 04:06:47,830
I'm here with my family, my grandchildren.

3067
04:06:49,510 --> 04:06:53,930
Nobody that I've heard speak so far today is against the Serenance Service's program.

3068
04:06:54,270 --> 04:06:56,310
Everybody is for harm reduction.

3069
04:06:57,350 --> 04:07:00,350
Everybody believes that harm reduction does good for our community,

3070
04:07:00,430 --> 04:07:04,050
whether it be the addicts or just your average citizen.

3071
04:07:04,770 --> 04:07:06,030
Nobody wants to step on a needle.

3072
04:07:06,350 --> 04:07:09,970
That's part of harm reduction, keeping the citizen safe as well as the clients.

3073
04:07:11,650 --> 04:07:16,650
That being said, as an addict, I needed to have

3074
04:07:16,650 --> 04:07:19,210
wraparone services to help me get clean and sober.

3075
04:07:19,470 --> 04:07:21,410
I needed to be able to walk into a place and get told,

3076
04:07:21,750 --> 04:07:23,290
hey, there's an option for you.

3077
04:07:23,470 --> 04:07:25,550
Hey, there's a place you can go, hey, are you okay?

3078
04:07:25,810 --> 04:07:26,850
We're here to help you.

3079
04:07:27,290 --> 04:07:29,090
That doesn't happen in the field.

3080
04:07:29,830 --> 04:07:29,930
Any?

3081
04:07:30,000 --> 04:07:36,540
Expansion of the SSP should be done under the umbrella of the county and our health services agency.

3082
04:07:36,880 --> 04:07:42,500
Ms. Hall misherter, I have both shown a great interest in being more transparent and fixing

3083
04:07:42,500 --> 04:07:47,220
and tweaking the things that are wrong with the program and trying to make it better for everybody.

3084
04:07:47,900 --> 04:07:52,160
More work and hard for that. Part of their advisory panel at the moment, hopefully hoping to be

3085
04:07:52,160 --> 04:07:59,120
more help to them in the future. What we need, we need more hours of accessibility for the SSP.

3086
04:07:59,120 --> 04:08:02,760
We need more beds for the people that need help.

3087
04:08:02,940 --> 04:08:05,420
There has to be a bed available when people want help.

3088
04:08:05,980 --> 04:08:08,900
And we need to close the loophole of the secondary exchange.

3089
04:08:09,320 --> 04:08:12,880
We need to put a cap on that of approximately 50 needles per secondary exchange.

3090
04:08:13,540 --> 04:08:17,660
The secondary exchange that was going on by the harm reduction coalition dropped the client

3091
04:08:17,660 --> 04:08:22,460
numbers seen at the SSP by over 40 percent in a three month time.

3092
04:08:22,880 --> 04:08:28,460
40 percent of the people that used to go and get their supplies from the SSP stop going.

3093
04:08:28,460 --> 04:08:34,160
stopped having access to medical, mental health and recovery possibilities because the secondary

3094
04:08:34,160 --> 04:08:40,720
exchange took needles to them. It was room service. Please do something about that loophole.

3095
04:08:41,180 --> 04:08:45,500
I'm available anytime, anytime anybody wants to talk one-on-one. I'm easy to find.

3096
04:08:50,970 --> 04:08:55,470
Hi, my name is Savannah Carlson. I graduated from Cabrillo and I work as a caregiver with adults

3097
04:08:55,470 --> 04:09:01,010
with developmental disabilities and Santa Cruz. I'm here today to support every expansion of

3098
04:09:01,010 --> 04:09:05,090
services around harm reduction. I hope that the Board of Supervisors State can vote to allow

3099
04:09:05,090 --> 04:09:09,510
the program to begin to move towards the advisory groups recommendations, which are backed

3100
04:09:09,510 --> 04:09:14,090
by local and national data on how to best support public health. The program has been stopped

3101
04:09:14,090 --> 04:09:18,310
from enacting breast practices for a long time, and it's time to move towards science-backed

3102
04:09:18,310 --> 04:09:24,910
policies, which all forms of harm reduction are. Also to make it personal, my mom has been

3103
04:09:24,910 --> 04:09:29,750
addicted to heroin for a long time, and I am honestly grateful that she doesn't live here. She

3104
04:09:29,750 --> 04:09:37,590
I live in a county where services are much more expanded, including peer-based support, and those policies have saved her life multiple times.

3105
04:09:38,070 --> 04:09:40,370
I wouldn't have a mom without them.

3106
04:09:40,750 --> 04:09:41,610
Thank you.

3107
04:09:50,740 --> 04:09:52,600
My name is Olympia.

3108
04:09:53,100 --> 04:09:56,580
I'm a recent graduate from the Community Studies Program at the UCSC.

3109
04:09:56,580 --> 04:09:58,760
I've lived in Santa Cruz for almost four years.

3110
04:09:58,760 --> 04:10:03,560
And in the past year I spent six months doing a participatory observation at the Homeless

3111
04:10:03,560 --> 04:10:08,040
Persons Health Project and also volunteering at the county, Sir and Services Program.

3112
04:10:08,680 --> 04:10:13,920
During my time at HPHP and SSP, I met people who were current and past drug users, some

3113
04:10:13,920 --> 04:10:17,920
of whom access county services regularly visiting the exchange on a weekly basis.

3114
04:10:18,540 --> 04:10:22,400
Many clients I built relationships with, however, were not accessing SSP for a very

3115
04:10:22,400 --> 04:10:23,220
idea of reasons.

3116
04:10:23,820 --> 04:10:28,140
The data presented on SSP demonstrates a clear need for programs like this in our community,

3117
04:10:28,140 --> 04:10:34,020
However, after six months of outreach, it became clear that SSP sees only a fraction of drug users in our community.

3118
04:10:34,640 --> 04:10:38,080
While the lack of ours at SSP was one of the barriers to accessing services,

3119
04:10:38,440 --> 04:10:41,720
a trepidation of entering county buildings guarded by security officers,

3120
04:10:42,460 --> 04:10:46,220
as well as mobility issues preventing people from actually getting to the online campus

3121
04:10:46,220 --> 04:10:49,140
to exchange needles seem to be an even larger barrier.

3122
04:10:49,980 --> 04:10:53,320
In order to fulfill its goal of acting as a gateway to integrated services,

3123
04:10:53,320 --> 04:11:03,780
services. The Syrian service program should be complemented with mobile exchanges and street outreach in order to engage with folks who aren't able to access the online campus or the Watson Bill location.

3124
04:11:04,360 --> 04:11:14,380
As has been stated in previous comments today, harm reduction means people meeting people where they're at and that means symbolically but also physically, which is what mobile exchanges do.

3125
04:11:14,760 --> 04:11:15,360
Thank you.

3126
04:11:19,780 --> 04:11:20,080
Good afternoon.

3127
04:11:20,080 --> 04:11:26,860
My name is Josie Roberto, and I'm speaking to you today as a concerned mother.

3128
04:11:27,620 --> 04:11:34,480
I have four adult children, two teens, and two three young children including my grandchildren.

3129
04:11:35,000 --> 04:11:36,900
They're all being raised in Santa Cruz County.

3130
04:11:38,340 --> 04:11:43,980
I am here in support of the Suringe Services Program and Best Practices.

3131
04:11:43,980 --> 04:11:59,480
I'm not as versed in what that is, but I can tell you my experience in the community and my concern about prevention and about how the compassion for all our community members and what I've seen.

3132
04:12:00,440 --> 04:12:09,780
We spend a lot of time downtown and local beaches and on Westcliffe and we do participate in beach cleanups and we have found needles.

3133
04:12:09,780 --> 04:12:17,740
we have interacted with people on the streets and I think it's important that the board

3134
04:12:17,740 --> 04:12:23,800
remember they are human beings and I teach my kids and raise them to treat people with respect

3135
04:12:23,800 --> 04:12:29,500
even if they seem you know doesn't mean I want them to know them but treat people with respect

3136
04:12:29,500 --> 04:12:32,920
we don't know where they've come from and what they've seen and what they've been through

3137
04:12:33,460 --> 04:12:38,740
and you know I'm going to remind the board what we've been doing in our cannabis industry for the

3138
04:12:38,740 --> 04:12:45,640
for years, you, the Board, encourage us to, instead of attacking other members in our community

3139
04:12:45,640 --> 04:12:52,640
or other programs or other neighbors, you encourage us to listen to their side with respect.

3140
04:12:53,140 --> 04:12:58,520
You encourage us to make the compromises necessary to come to agreements and I thought that

3141
04:12:58,520 --> 04:13:04,280
was really important lesson. I actually bonded with the people that were absolutely opposite

3142
04:13:04,280 --> 04:13:11,940
side of the scale as what I believed in, and by finding that common bond and respect, I think

3143
04:13:11,940 --> 04:13:18,240
that the county can find a way to not demonize these people, and to not attack these other

3144
04:13:18,240 --> 04:13:21,520
programs, because they're coming from a place of compassion, and they want to help.

3145
04:13:22,040 --> 04:13:22,700
Thank you very much.

3146
04:13:27,060 --> 04:13:32,360
Hello, my name is Danny Driesdale, I'm a constituent of Zach Friend and a lifelong resident

3147
04:13:32,960 --> 04:13:34,840
I was born and raised here.

3148
04:13:35,540 --> 04:13:37,960
I'm speaking with strong and unequivocal support

3149
04:13:37,960 --> 04:13:41,120
for all possible strengthening of the county SSP.

3150
04:13:41,520 --> 04:13:44,340
And I have the same level of support for our secondary exchange program.

3151
04:13:45,180 --> 04:13:48,100
I'm a proud and active volunteer with the local harm reduction

3152
04:13:48,820 --> 04:13:50,440
coalition's secondary outreach efforts.

3153
04:13:50,840 --> 04:13:51,780
I got there every week.

3154
04:13:52,020 --> 04:13:54,920
I believe that my support to other addicts as their peer

3155
04:13:54,920 --> 04:13:57,040
is deeply important to the health of our community.

3156
04:13:58,360 --> 04:14:01,020
I went to Aptos Junior High and Aptos High School.

3157
04:14:01,020 --> 04:14:07,680
It was there when I was 13 years old that I started using drugs very heavily when I was 14 and became a daily user of cocaine

3158
04:14:08,700 --> 04:14:18,000
That same year. I found out that my mom also had the same addiction when she was my age and I spent my entire teenage years struggling with that

3159
04:14:18,000 --> 04:14:22,960
Because of the common beliefs around addiction that are especially prevalent in Santa Cruz. I came to believe that I was broken

3160
04:14:23,420 --> 04:14:30,500
I was racked with shame and I almost took my own life on multiple occasions and kids here should not be growing up with that shame and post on them

3161
04:14:30,500 --> 04:14:34,460
A community that believes itself to be progressive should not be flooded with these narratives

3162
04:14:34,460 --> 04:14:37,620
that I learned as a teenager, and it should definitely not have some of the most restrictive

3163
04:14:37,620 --> 04:14:38,740
programs in the state.

3164
04:14:39,400 --> 04:14:41,880
But as I'm learning now, Santa Cruz is a massive aberration.

3165
04:14:42,240 --> 04:14:46,340
It is specifically, is a specifically regressive community on the question of drugs.

3166
04:14:46,780 --> 04:14:49,140
I blame that fact directly for my traumatic teenage years.

3167
04:14:49,740 --> 04:14:53,340
There is no doubt of the support of the claims of opponents of harm reduction, the SSP, or

3168
04:14:53,340 --> 04:14:54,300
the secondary exchange.

3169
04:14:54,740 --> 04:14:58,300
The arguments against secondary are in complete contradiction with public health research.

3170
04:14:58,660 --> 04:14:59,980
But as a queer person, as a trans...

3171
04:15:00,460 --> 04:15:08,700
I can't help but remember the AIDS crisis. Public health data and the stories of victims were completely ignored, leading directly to the loss of many thousands of lives.

3172
04:15:09,380 --> 04:15:16,660
There was a point in the AIDS crisis early on where half the country believed that all AIDS victims should be quarantined and forced into that kind of care.

3173
04:15:17,480 --> 04:15:28,620
And we have the same kind of messed up, misinformed public opinion here in Santa Cruz and I don't think that should Trump public health opinion. I don't think it shouldn't Trump the need for care that me and my fellow volunteers provide every week in this county.

3174
04:15:36,050 --> 04:15:42,250
Good afternoon, Board of Supervisors. My name is Melissa Friedburn. I am a registered nurse. I'm a former

3175
04:15:42,250 --> 04:15:47,730
mat nurse. I'm a nurse who worked at your local jail and I currently am a supervisor at a state

3176
04:15:47,730 --> 04:15:54,510
prison in Sullivan. I come here to advocate for vulnerable populations like I have since the beginning

3177
04:15:54,510 --> 04:16:01,590
of this campaign. Drug addicts deserve the same level of medical care and outreach that every citizen

3178
04:16:01,590 --> 04:16:08,290
in this county deserves. And what that means is that we don't leave this population in the hand

3179
04:16:08,290 --> 04:16:16,510
of unqualified. While they mean well, it is misguided. Untrained volunteers going and handing

3180
04:16:16,510 --> 04:16:24,370
out needles and Narcan and not being able to offer somebody HIV Hep C testing on site, not really

3181
04:16:24,370 --> 04:16:30,750
understanding what that means when they hand the Narcan. I understand that. I am that nurse who

3182
04:16:30,750 --> 04:16:35,610
to a man down of an inmate who is blue, who is dead.

3183
04:16:36,150 --> 04:16:37,250
I pump on that chest.

3184
04:16:37,330 --> 04:16:41,830
I administer five doses of Narcan in a correctional setting,

3185
04:16:42,270 --> 04:16:45,030
where, yeah, I work around a lot of people who don't think

3186
04:16:45,030 --> 04:16:48,230
and feel the same way that these people are still human beings.

3187
04:16:48,370 --> 04:16:51,050
Even after they've committed a crime and they're incarcerated,

3188
04:16:51,630 --> 04:16:54,610
because what's missing from this conversation with all these people

3189
04:16:54,610 --> 04:16:58,330
is that the end result of a heavy duty drug addiction

3190
04:16:58,330 --> 04:17:04,130
is that you will end up dead, you will end up incarcerated, or you will recover.

3191
04:17:04,630 --> 04:17:09,270
There is nothing else. There is nothing else, unless you are extremely wealthy,

3192
04:17:09,390 --> 04:17:14,750
and you can maintain a heroin or meth addiction over the course of your lifetime,

3193
04:17:14,810 --> 04:17:21,790
and that is paid for by someone else. So I am in full support of the county taking this program back,

3194
04:17:21,790 --> 04:17:28,590
and stopping secondary exchange by people who are not trained, they cannot link people to services,

3195
04:17:28,910 --> 04:17:32,650
they have zero data to support that they can help anybody.

3196
04:17:32,950 --> 04:17:37,370
And until they come under the umbrella of the county, you have to stop this.

3197
04:17:46,870 --> 04:17:48,250
Hi, my name is Dana Anderton.

3198
04:17:48,670 --> 04:17:52,790
I work for the HIV education prevention project of Alameda County.

3199
04:17:53,310 --> 04:17:58,030
I'm here because I originally moved to Santa Cruz when I was four and I lived here until I was 27.

3200
04:17:58,030 --> 04:18:03,630
And I really, I really feel like I call this place home because it was the place that

3201
04:18:03,630 --> 04:18:06,670
raised me and it's the place that I really feel like is special in California.

3202
04:18:07,830 --> 04:18:13,350
I'm also here because I wholeheartedly support the Surge Service Program and all of its best

3203
04:18:13,350 --> 04:18:14,610
practices in harm reduction.

3204
04:18:17,590 --> 04:18:19,010
I have lived in this county.

3205
04:18:19,150 --> 04:18:20,330
I've been homeless in this county.

3206
04:18:20,750 --> 04:18:26,050
I spent a primary portion of the time that I lived here in the mountain area of Santa Cruz.

3207
04:18:26,050 --> 04:18:30,210
I first moved up to Lampico and I lived in Boulder Creek and the moment and felt all over

3208
04:18:30,210 --> 04:18:30,850
that area.

3209
04:18:31,470 --> 04:18:35,850
I can tell you because it is a more removed area.

3210
04:18:36,670 --> 04:18:40,410
It is very difficult to get access to the program in Santa Cruz and throughout my entire

3211
04:18:40,410 --> 04:18:44,330
time growing up, I knew people who suffered from addiction who really needed to help the

3212
04:18:44,330 --> 04:18:49,030
certain services program offered in Santa Cruz and it was very difficult for any of them

3213
04:18:49,030 --> 04:18:50,130
to get down there.

3214
04:18:51,150 --> 04:18:56,030
I work in data so I can tell you from a data perspective, from a science perspective, secondary

3215
04:18:56,970 --> 04:19:03,450
service is work. All of these programs, all these best practices actually work. They help save

3216
04:19:03,450 --> 04:19:09,030
the county money. They help reduce syringe litter. If we really want to see reduce syringe

3217
04:19:09,030 --> 04:19:12,850
litter, if we really want to see more people in recovery, if we really want to see this county

3218
04:19:12,850 --> 04:19:18,170
get more help expanding. The syringe services program in every way possible is the best way to do

3219
04:19:18,170 --> 04:19:22,370
that and there's lots of data that shows why. So please, if you could do.

3220
04:19:29,100 --> 04:19:30,500
Good afternoon, I'm stuck

3221
04:19:30,500 --> 04:19:43,540
program and I'm like to refer to this item 20, you got it as 20.i, exhibit 9, it's in

3222
04:19:43,540 --> 04:19:52,480
your folders and it's from the Office of AIDS, the California Office of AIDS and it says

3223
04:19:52,480 --> 04:20:02,700
The Department of Public Health advises syringe exchange programs to needle-based distribution

3224
04:20:02,700 --> 04:20:08,480
policies with a goal of ensuring that participants have a new, sterile needle each time

3225
04:20:08,480 --> 04:20:09,480
they use.

3226
04:20:10,920 --> 04:20:20,480
Under the program that you currently have at I'm Aline, you're doing a one for one exchange,

3227
04:20:20,480 --> 04:20:25,400
which is not needs-based, and now there's different levels of exchanges, there's like

3228
04:20:25,400 --> 04:20:29,140
the one plus where people can get more than one needle,

3229
04:20:31,320 --> 04:20:34,080
and what is the best practice

3230
04:20:34,080 --> 04:20:41,800
according to this document is the needs-based where the person comes in, and they might have needles,

3231
04:20:42,020 --> 04:20:50,460
they might have put all their needles into a bin somewhere. So having the ability to

3232
04:20:50,460 --> 04:20:55,400
get the number of needles they need is what's going to be the healthiest thing.

3233
04:20:55,600 --> 04:21:04,060
I had friends that died of AIDS, and it's possible that that epidemic could come back

3234
04:21:04,060 --> 04:21:06,620
if you let it.

3235
04:21:07,280 --> 04:21:15,160
So I would urge you to work with the harm reduction coalition to work out a way that that program

3236
04:21:15,160 --> 04:21:24,180
can exist in this county and help them work with the different areas where they want to

3237
04:21:24,180 --> 04:21:32,140
do distributions and go into those areas and do public relations with you and the health

3238
04:21:32,140 --> 04:21:35,960
department to ensure that these things happen.

3239
04:21:36,360 --> 04:21:37,260
Thank you.

3240
04:21:42,230 --> 04:21:45,130
My name is Danny Conthritis, I'm the Health Service Manager of the Medication Assistance

3241
04:21:45,130 --> 04:21:53,590
treatment program for the County of Santa Cruz, I would urge you to accept or approve the

3242
04:21:54,930 --> 04:22:01,290
county's recommendations. I say this because I started at the county in 2016 and I worked

3243
04:22:01,290 --> 04:22:06,030
in the Surin Service Program for about a year and a half and through that I was able to connect

3244
04:22:06,030 --> 04:22:10,070
with people that probably nobody else could connect to. And through those services I was able

3245
04:22:10,070 --> 04:22:15,410
to get people into IVH to especially mental health, to medication assisted treatment and sometimes

3246
04:22:15,410 --> 04:22:19,910
that is just building a relationship with people. Every single time they come in, yeah they might

3247
04:22:19,910 --> 04:22:23,750
not be looking good. But hey, you got an app says let me get you to the nurse. Are you ready

3248
04:22:23,750 --> 04:22:27,670
for treatment yet? Here's my phone number. Every single time. Here's my phone number. Here's the

3249
04:22:27,670 --> 04:22:29,970
brochure. Here's some other services. You might not want to.

3250
04:22:30,000 --> 04:22:34,040
Okay, but here, keep it just in case you want to later, or you change your mind. All of our drug and

3251
04:22:34,040 --> 04:22:40,200
alcohol counselors, we have five drug and alcohol counselors underneath me who all are doing shifts

3252
04:22:40,200 --> 04:22:44,760
in the syringe service program. And all of them are providing those services, are connecting

3253
04:22:44,760 --> 04:22:49,900
people to services throughout the county, whether that's whole person care, IBH, drug,

3254
04:22:49,900 --> 04:22:55,240
medical, connecting to in-campus, C-suppway, they Santa Cruz, residential, alto, whatever

3255
04:22:55,240 --> 04:22:59,040
drug program that is. But it's basically just working with people, where they're at and providing

3256
04:22:59,040 --> 04:23:01,160
the services and we're just laying it out for them.

3257
04:23:01,260 --> 04:23:04,420
You know, we're showing them love when sometimes somebody else won't show them love, right?

3258
04:23:04,420 --> 04:23:08,320
And we're being a voice or advocate for them when they're sometimes they can nobody can

3259
04:23:08,320 --> 04:23:10,400
hear their pain or what's going on with them.

3260
04:23:10,560 --> 04:23:14,960
Some of these people have severe trauma, severe stuff that you don't know or nobody knows that

3261
04:23:14,960 --> 04:23:20,620
they've never shared what people, I have watched people come from the bushes and have nothing

3262
04:23:20,620 --> 04:23:24,260
when we didn't have the map program and watch the warehouse in there and we were still rolling

3263
04:23:24,260 --> 04:23:31,360
it out, they would get homeless, try to find a bus or a ride to HP HP to get mad, and

3264
04:23:31,360 --> 04:23:34,840
continually strive and struggle, and that came through this range service program.

3265
04:23:35,480 --> 04:23:38,840
One of those persons, a couple of those persons wanted to come here today, but they were

3266
04:23:38,840 --> 04:23:41,400
not able to, because they're working, they're getting housing some of the other persons,

3267
04:23:41,720 --> 04:23:45,120
but they got full-time jobs now, they're going to college, they're working, I'll be coming

3268
04:23:45,120 --> 04:23:50,000
drug and alcohol counselors, and they're doing a lot of awesome amazing work, and they're

3269
04:23:50,000 --> 04:23:51,720
helping people else recover too.

3270
04:23:52,240 --> 04:23:52,920
Thank you.

3271
04:23:58,070 --> 04:24:10,110
Good afternoon. My name is Matt Nathanson. I have been a resident of Santa Cruz City in the county for 25 years. I'm a constituent of supervisor communities. I also am a public health nurse.

3272
04:24:10,470 --> 04:24:17,810
I've worked for 21 years in homeless services for this county. And I'm here to speak in support of the recommendations.

3273
04:24:17,810 --> 04:24:24,630
I actually think there is more that we could be doing, but I think they represent a political compromise

3274
04:24:24,630 --> 04:24:27,990
of where sort of the community is at.

3275
04:24:28,110 --> 04:24:30,590
I don't think they necessarily represent the best science.

3276
04:24:31,010 --> 04:24:34,950
But the good things in it, I guess what I would want to say is first of all,

3277
04:24:35,110 --> 04:24:37,490
Santa Cruz used to be a leader in syringe exchange.

3278
04:24:37,950 --> 04:24:42,490
Back in the 90s when I started working here, we were a model for other places,

3279
04:24:42,510 --> 04:24:46,090
and I think that was largely in response to the HIV epidemic at the time.

3280
04:24:46,090 --> 04:25:00,550
I think part of the problem has been over the last several years, we've lacked leadership in the health department to move forward on this issue and I'm really excited today to see the health department leadership bringing forward these proposals.

3281
04:25:01,030 --> 04:25:14,550
I think that's great. I think what I want people to, there's a lot of focus on this syringe and as a nurse, my view of this is, if somebody's going to be injecting drugs, I want them to be injecting drugs with a clean needle every time.

3282
04:25:14,550 --> 04:25:28,430
Because every time they use a dirty needle they're at risk of contracting as we've heard HIV, hepatitis, there's lots of people with endocarditis in the hospital with really severe abscesses, there's a huge economic cost as well as personal costs.

3283
04:25:29,290 --> 04:25:38,730
So you, from a medical, from a nursing perspective, it's just like somebody who shoots insulin for their diabetes. I want them to not reuse their needles. I want them to use clean needles.

3284
04:25:39,650 --> 04:25:42,970
There's no moral judgment there, it's just about people safety.

3285
04:25:43,410 --> 04:25:47,630
I also think that I'm glad that there is the study about syringe litter.

3286
04:25:47,890 --> 04:25:53,210
I think that that issue causes a lot of fear for people and I understand that, but you

3287
04:25:53,210 --> 04:25:57,970
can ask your epidemiologists how many people in the county have contracted HIV or hepatitis

3288
04:25:57,970 --> 04:26:02,830
from an accidental needle stick in the environment stepping on it versus how many people

3289
04:26:02,830 --> 04:26:06,970
have gotten it from sharing needles, you'll find the numbers are dramatically different.

3290
04:26:06,970 --> 04:26:08,970
Anyway, I'm out of time. Thank you.

3291
04:26:14,390 --> 04:26:15,750
You can pull it down.

3292
04:26:16,430 --> 04:26:17,150
No, no, no, no.

3293
04:26:17,950 --> 04:26:18,390
The other one.

3294
04:26:18,390 --> 04:26:18,450
The other one.

3295
04:26:18,450 --> 04:26:19,570
What's going on?

3296
04:26:20,730 --> 04:26:20,970
Don't start.

3297
04:26:21,290 --> 04:26:22,090
Which reset my time.

3298
04:26:24,530 --> 04:26:26,090
Hi, my name is Anne Elisea.

3299
04:26:26,310 --> 04:26:29,650
And everyone I came here with today lives in Santa Cruz County.

3300
04:26:30,570 --> 04:26:31,890
Okay, let's make that clear off the bat.

3301
04:26:32,710 --> 04:26:34,410
We can talk about this for a long time.

3302
04:26:34,910 --> 04:26:39,190
And I'm proud to say that everyone, at least that I've heard that is stood up

3303
04:26:39,190 --> 04:26:40,090
is not against SSP.

3304
04:26:40,090 --> 04:26:42,290
that's not what this is about.

3305
04:26:42,610 --> 04:26:43,790
We're for our harm reduction.

3306
04:26:44,270 --> 04:26:47,570
We believe that that is absolutely part of the answer.

3307
04:26:48,290 --> 04:26:51,290
I do sit on the sheriff's advisory team,

3308
04:26:51,970 --> 04:26:54,970
and the harm reduction coalition did come in,

3309
04:26:55,150 --> 04:26:56,890
and I did get a chance to hear them out.

3310
04:26:58,570 --> 04:27:01,130
I was really alarmed.

3311
04:27:01,410 --> 04:27:03,690
And I, hopefully all of you have read all the holes

3312
04:27:03,690 --> 04:27:07,010
that have been put into this harm reduction coalition

3313
04:27:07,010 --> 04:27:09,330
and state application that went through,

3314
04:27:09,890 --> 04:27:12,470
but things like questions about data.

3315
04:27:13,050 --> 04:27:16,690
So how many people did you refer to to rehabilitation

3316
04:27:16,690 --> 04:27:17,850
or any kind of services?

3317
04:27:17,950 --> 04:27:19,410
This person is hit rock bottom.

3318
04:27:20,910 --> 04:27:23,510
They have said, I need help right now.

3319
04:27:24,850 --> 04:27:26,170
What do you do now?

3320
04:27:26,290 --> 04:27:26,590
Are you ready?

3321
04:27:26,970 --> 04:27:28,890
Let's grab that person, throw him in the back of your car

3322
04:27:28,890 --> 04:27:30,470
and get him where they need to be.

3323
04:27:30,690 --> 04:27:33,630
The answer was, I have no information about that.

3324
04:27:33,630 --> 04:27:40,090
Do you follow up? Do you call it like find that guy? Hey, you know, what happened with that? No

3325
04:27:40,090 --> 04:27:50,610
This is secondary services problems this idea of getting needles from the SSP and calling ourselves a client. This is shady

3326
04:27:51,510 --> 04:28:00,270
This is shady things and I want you to look through all this shadyness that all of us have been seeing on this state application

3327
04:28:00,270 --> 04:28:05,470
which I see Swiss cheese that doesn't have this many holes in it and I want you to think about

3328
04:28:05,470 --> 04:28:07,350
what we're doing, who we want to be as a county.

3329
04:28:07,750 --> 04:28:10,530
I want every single person who wants help to find it.

3330
04:28:10,730 --> 04:28:14,570
And I know you guys read the grand jury findings and those weren't all their findings.

3331
04:28:15,030 --> 04:28:16,370
It's things like that.

3332
04:28:16,670 --> 04:28:19,950
Little bits of information that are kept out of the conversation

3333
04:28:20,510 --> 04:28:22,970
when they're brought to you and when they're brought to the community.

3334
04:28:23,570 --> 04:28:24,050
Thank you.

3335
04:28:27,700 --> 04:28:34,140
Hi, I'm Denise Ellerick and I'm the supervisor of friends constituent and I was at a different meeting that Anne Elisey is speaking about

3336
04:28:34,140 --> 04:28:43,700
Because I explained the data that we do collect we have collaborated with Mimi Hall and Jessica Altman's we collect data on male female age do you use the SSP

3337
04:28:45,060 --> 04:28:49,860
the locks on distribution, all that, and we turn it over to Jessica, so the county data

3338
04:28:49,860 --> 04:28:55,180
includes our secondary data. And you need to know that excessive data collection is not

3339
04:28:55,180 --> 04:29:00,660
best practices for any syringe program, be it the public health department or all volunteer.

3340
04:29:01,320 --> 04:29:04,960
And what I'd also like to highlight, I know everybody wants to see how many people are cured,

3341
04:29:05,580 --> 04:29:11,280
but curative substance use goes a spectrum of it can be decades. And so if somebody doesn't use

3342
04:29:11,280 --> 04:29:13,480
for one day, and they're on suboxone,

3343
04:29:13,700 --> 04:29:15,860
but then the next day they use that still a win.

3344
04:29:16,240 --> 04:29:17,420
And it's going to be very hard

3345
04:29:17,420 --> 04:29:20,720
to ask for measurable outcomes on substance use curing

3346
04:29:20,720 --> 04:29:23,960
when you're not using an evidence-based practice program.

3347
04:29:24,660 --> 04:29:27,560
The real measurement of effective program

3348
04:29:27,560 --> 04:29:29,720
is when you get that client into medication

3349
04:29:29,720 --> 04:29:32,120
assisted treatment, are they HIV-negative?

3350
04:29:32,260 --> 04:29:33,840
And do they have hepatitis C?

3351
04:29:34,060 --> 04:29:35,680
And do they have hemocarditis?

3352
04:29:35,760 --> 04:29:37,640
Are they dying in the hospital of pneumonia

3353
04:29:37,640 --> 04:29:39,600
from an unsafe, unclean injection?

3354
04:29:39,600 --> 04:29:45,180
Those are measurable outcomes that we all have control over and I value the search program

3355
04:29:46,160 --> 04:29:55,580
Incredibly I don't have a fake account. I go in there. We talk by name. I'm a surpa. I met people that asked for this program because it was raining cats and dogs

3356
04:29:55,580 --> 04:29:59,980
The programs closed on Mondays the holidays. They were closed on Fridays after things

3357
04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:29,720
And people were incredibly needy. They are in wheelchairs and walkers of mud. It was an insane winter. And I look forward to connecting with our community. I have driven people to the SSP. I have driven people to the MLN clinic for wound care. I drove a gentleman. I have driven two men to the emergency room. Long story. I'm not going to waste my time on that. But there is a way to connect people to services. And it's done every day all over the state of California. We're not here to talk about any supplemental program.

3358
04:30:30,000 --> 04:30:31,520
We're here to say thank you to Mimi.

3359
04:30:32,020 --> 04:30:32,780
Thank you to Jen.

3360
04:30:33,340 --> 04:30:35,540
Go with expansion of your program.

3361
04:30:35,940 --> 04:30:37,200
Thank you very much.

3362
04:30:43,150 --> 04:30:43,670
Good afternoon.

3363
04:30:44,230 --> 04:30:47,450
I was a supervisor, community, and Board of Supervisors.

3364
04:30:47,570 --> 04:30:48,470
My name is Eddie Kappa.

3365
04:30:48,650 --> 04:30:53,710
The Achavez, and I'm the CEO of Bajo Valley Prevention and Student Assistance located in the

3366
04:30:53,710 --> 04:30:55,570
heart of the Paro Valley in Watsonville.

3367
04:30:56,250 --> 04:31:03,010
We provide counseling and outpatient substance abuse services to youth, living in the greater

3368
04:31:03,010 --> 04:31:06,550
and that, of course, includes our beautiful community and app toss.

3369
04:31:07,170 --> 04:31:11,890
We are very proud to be a partner in the county's behavioral health continuum of care.

3370
04:31:12,010 --> 04:31:17,370
And when I say behavioral health, I'm talking about mental health and substance abuse services.

3371
04:31:18,330 --> 04:31:27,270
Well, at PVPSA, we work really diligently to prevent youth from swimming deeper into the continuum of need.

3372
04:31:27,270 --> 04:31:42,250
We recognize that there are people along that entire continuum and so it is therefore imperative that we provide services no matter where people are at in that swimming pool whether that the shallow end or at the deep end.

3373
04:31:43,010 --> 04:31:56,730
And therefore I'm here today to say that the SSP proposal before you is a very sound and very public health-minded approach to addressing the needs of the people on the deeper end of the pool.

3374
04:31:57,270 --> 04:32:09,390
It articulates a very comprehensive and systematic approach to increasing the opportunity for wellness for those individuals while ensuring the public's health.

3375
04:32:10,930 --> 04:32:22,630
I want to thank the county team for being so diligent with conducting all the research and gathering the information needed to present to you a very articulate and a very research-based proposal.

3376
04:32:22,630 --> 04:32:29,090
I am very excited to be a partner knowing that I have partners around me that do have expertise

3377
04:32:29,090 --> 04:32:35,090
in working with folks that are in that deeper end of the pool and I stand ready to work with

3378
04:32:35,090 --> 04:32:41,210
them in whatever way possible to expand whatever service needs to be done, but I will continue

3379
04:32:41,210 --> 04:32:47,450
to try to prevent our youth swimming deeper into the pool. Thank you.

3380
04:32:50,580 --> 04:32:56,600
Chairman Kennedy, members of the Board, I'm Arnold Lath, I'm a resident of Boulder Creek,

3381
04:32:57,360 --> 04:33:00,940
and former currently a retired health officer.

3382
04:33:02,800 --> 04:33:12,080
All I can say to all of you is, do what needs to be done to decrease the amount of

3383
04:33:12,080 --> 04:33:13,900
substance use in this community.

3384
04:33:13,900 --> 04:33:24,120
By doing, by increasing the availability of the syringe services program, you will, in fact, do that.

3385
04:33:24,800 --> 04:33:37,080
By increasing the syringe services program, you ultimately will decrease the amount of syringe waste in the community, not increase it.

3386
04:33:37,080 --> 04:33:48,200
By allowing the county to increase their hours, give them as much flexibility as you can by doing that.

3387
04:33:48,440 --> 04:33:57,080
You will decrease the substance use in this community and you will decrease the amount of syringe waste in this community.

3388
04:33:57,800 --> 04:34:03,080
All the evidence shows that. All the science shows that.

3389
04:34:03,080 --> 04:34:27,740
Please follow the evidence, follow the science, don't do what some people in Washington do and reject the evidence and the science that supports these programs because they do in fact prevent disease, they do in fact decrease the amount to syringe waste in the community.

3390
04:34:27,740 --> 04:34:41,700
And more and as importantly, they save a lot of illness and a lot of resources that have to be used to correct serious disease.

3391
04:34:42,060 --> 04:34:43,080
Thank you.

3392
04:34:47,870 --> 04:34:48,530
Hi, my name is Eric.

3393
04:34:50,550 --> 04:34:58,130
So at the beginning of the presentation, the director said that this that SSP is not just about needles.

3394
04:34:59,330 --> 04:35:01,770
But the third party is about needles.

3395
04:35:02,990 --> 04:35:05,730
When you've got two people handing out 600 needles a day,

3396
04:35:06,130 --> 04:35:08,090
they're not sitting down, they're not doing testing.

3397
04:35:08,890 --> 04:35:10,290
They're not having pure counseling.

3398
04:35:10,750 --> 04:35:11,630
They're handing out needles.

3399
04:35:13,510 --> 04:35:17,430
And I think one to one is the way to go.

3400
04:35:18,350 --> 04:35:20,850
So the numbers show that there are fewer visits,

3401
04:35:21,290 --> 04:35:22,950
but more needles being handed out.

3402
04:35:23,410 --> 04:35:26,870
So again, that's not consistent with it being not just about the needles.

3403
04:35:28,750 --> 04:35:34,450
Finally, I'm not a health service worker. I'm a finance guy. I know money. I know numbers.

3404
04:35:35,550 --> 04:35:41,330
So, they say that they collected more needles than they distributed by weight. So, I have to ask you.

3405
04:35:41,330 --> 04:35:47,510
If I came and paid my property taxes by weight, would you accept the container and trust me?

3406
04:35:47,930 --> 04:35:48,470
Thank you.

3407
04:35:55,480 --> 04:36:06,940
Hello, my name is Craig Reinerman, I'm a 30 year resident of Santa Cruz, retired professor at UCSC, and a member of the Serene Services Program Advisory Group.

3408
04:36:08,120 --> 04:36:20,500
I was around in the early 90s when we did a evaluation of the Santa Cruz AIDS project, Santa Cruz Needle Exchange project, under Santa Cruz AIDS project.

3409
04:36:20,500 --> 04:36:29,320
And I was struck by how many people we learned, that was the first step, showing up and

3410
04:36:29,320 --> 04:36:34,620
exchanging yields was the first step they had ever taken in their lives to take responsibility

3411
04:36:34,620 --> 04:36:36,020
for their own health.

3412
04:36:37,580 --> 04:36:41,000
Nothing has convinced me otherwise since then.

3413
04:36:41,960 --> 04:36:46,000
Serene services do not close drug problems by themselves.

3414
04:36:46,000 --> 04:36:52,560
And I'm here just to add my voice to support the expansion of the hours and the services,

3415
04:36:53,680 --> 04:37:00,100
the connection to HP, HP, and particularly the distribution of fentanyl strips, which

3416
04:37:00,100 --> 04:37:03,000
will help prevent overdose deaths.

3417
04:37:03,300 --> 04:37:04,000
Thank you.

3418
04:37:05,200 --> 04:37:06,420
Thank you.

3419
04:37:09,130 --> 04:37:09,750
Good afternoon.

3420
04:37:10,170 --> 04:37:10,690
Just one second.

3421
04:37:10,810 --> 04:37:11,710
Is this our final speaker?

3422
04:37:11,890 --> 04:37:13,750
Is anyone else like to speak to us?

3423
04:37:14,170 --> 04:37:15,150
This will be our final speaker.

3424
04:37:15,150 --> 04:37:21,470
Good afternoon, everyone. My name is David Junini and I'm a recovered alcoholic and drug

3425
04:37:21,470 --> 04:37:29,830
and drug addict 29 years clean and sober. But it's emotional for me because what I see

3426
04:37:29,830 --> 04:37:29,970
Thanks for watching, and I'll see you in the next video, and I'll see you in the next video.

3427
04:37:30,000 --> 04:37:43,080
For me, is so much possibility, so much can be done when we have an opportunity to interact with someone who's in the throws of addiction.

3428
04:37:44,140 --> 04:37:57,240
Being able to garner the trust of that person, when they make that rare decision to do something about the situation that they're in, that is a golden moment.

3429
04:37:57,240 --> 04:38:24,640
And, however you decide to structure this program, I would advise you to keep in the back of your mind the possibility of having trained professional addiction counselors available when a person has that golden moment where they wake up and they decide that maybe I can do something about my life.

3430
04:38:24,640 --> 04:38:28,140
Maybe I don't have to continue to live this way.

3431
04:38:29,020 --> 04:38:31,660
Whatever, however, you structure this program,

3432
04:38:32,360 --> 04:38:33,600
please keep that in mind.

3433
04:38:34,000 --> 04:38:34,540
Thank you.

3434
04:38:38,130 --> 04:38:40,510
So that concludes the public comment.

3435
04:38:40,570 --> 04:38:42,370
I'll bring back to board for deliberation discussion.

3436
04:38:42,870 --> 04:38:45,490
First, I want to begin by thanking everyone

3437
04:38:45,490 --> 04:38:46,330
who came out today.

3438
04:38:46,830 --> 04:38:50,970
That's the most thoughtful and respectful conversation

3439
04:38:50,970 --> 04:38:54,630
I've heard around this issue in 15 years in politics.

3440
04:38:54,630 --> 04:39:12,570
And I think we're all much closer than often, not least, on social media, we appear and I want to thank everybody for the thoughtfulness and for taking the time and sitting in a warm room as well to make sure your comments are heard.

3441
04:39:13,410 --> 04:39:20,450
I'm going to call myself first, I have some broad comments, and then I supervise it with

3442
04:39:20,450 --> 04:39:27,130
Pearson and I have some motion that we'd like to bring forward, and then have discussion

3443
04:39:27,770 --> 04:39:28,810
and changes.

3444
04:39:29,690 --> 04:39:36,870
So the first thing I want to say is, I very much support SSP, and I think, and I want to congratulate

3445
04:39:36,870 --> 04:39:43,270
them for the for the good work they do and the public health staff at the county are absolutely

3446
04:39:43,270 --> 04:39:49,730
amazing. I've seen them from early childhood and babies all the way through disease prevention

3447
04:39:49,730 --> 04:39:57,110
and Dr. left heroic efforts around hepatitis A last year saved many lives. It was stated that there

3448
04:39:57,110 --> 04:40:03,350
were three goals for the SSP program and I believe that there are three goals but I believe that

3449
04:40:03,350 --> 04:40:07,590
We've over-emphasized one at the exclusion of the other.

3450
04:40:07,970 --> 04:40:15,090
And when we talk about reducing needle litter, the goal has to be there is no needles in

3451
04:40:15,090 --> 04:40:17,990
our parks, beaches, neighborhoods, or other public spaces.

3452
04:40:18,710 --> 04:40:24,210
Once a week, a parent comes up to me and says, I no longer, or a grandparent, I no longer

3453
04:40:24,210 --> 04:40:29,630
take my child to a park, to the parks, or to the beaches, or to the library, because

3454
04:40:29,630 --> 04:40:32,630
I, we went once and there was a needle or I heard about a needle.

3455
04:40:32,630 --> 04:40:39,990
Now I can tell them what the epidemiologists say, but that is not a conversation that they want

3456
04:40:39,990 --> 04:40:41,550
to have or will believe.

3457
04:40:41,690 --> 04:40:51,710
And so, Father, beyond children, there is no conversation that I can have where my child

3458
04:40:51,710 --> 04:40:52,370
steps on needle.

3459
04:40:52,550 --> 04:40:55,410
It's okay because the relative chance of disease or small.

3460
04:40:55,970 --> 04:40:58,450
It has to be a zero-prosability.

3461
04:40:58,450 --> 04:41:10,530
And when you have whole substance sections of our public, no longer engaging in our public spaces out of fear, that's a public health crisis, and it needs to be treated as seriously as the spread of disease.

3462
04:41:10,630 --> 04:41:21,170
Similarly, the efforts to expand access to treatment, and I commend the HSA staff whose expanded treatment, and hopefully we'll continue to expand it going forward.

3463
04:41:21,170 --> 04:41:28,890
And the work from people like Danny at HSA, I mean, that is exactly what the kind of outreach

3464
04:41:30,850 --> 04:41:35,230
and compassion and passion that we need to help people with good treatment.

3465
04:41:36,030 --> 04:41:39,350
So the short answer is we have an obligation to serve the needs of the entire community,

3466
04:41:39,850 --> 04:41:42,670
and I'm not sure the answer to too many needles is more needles.

3467
04:41:43,310 --> 04:41:49,330
Santa Clara has seven times our population and gives out one third of the needles that we give out

3468
04:41:49,330 --> 04:41:53,910
in just 12 hours of clinic time. Monterey has 12

3469
04:41:53,910 --> 04:41:57,170
two times population and gives out 20% of the needles

3470
04:41:57,170 --> 04:42:00,210
and their disease data is not different than ours

3471
04:42:00,210 --> 04:42:02,090
in fact, Santa Clara is better than ours.

3472
04:42:03,430 --> 04:42:07,510
And in fact, we followed science and we are now giving out

3473
04:42:07,510 --> 04:42:09,870
three times the needles that we're giving out in 2014.

3474
04:42:11,250 --> 04:42:14,990
We haven't seen a statistically big difference

3475
04:42:14,990 --> 04:42:17,390
in the amount of disease and yet there's far more need

3476
04:42:17,390 --> 04:42:20,230
waste that I ever remember they're being.

3477
04:42:21,670 --> 04:42:27,650
So I think we need when we look at this to figure out how we approach this in a way that

3478
04:42:27,650 --> 04:42:28,750
will work in this community.

3479
04:42:29,570 --> 04:42:37,170
The slide about the reduction in the number of clients from September 17, of 385 clients

3480
04:42:37,170 --> 04:42:43,110
to 167 clients last month or an April means that we're not having any of those conversations.

3481
04:42:43,110 --> 04:42:48,230
Means are we're not connecting people to services and we don't have people like Danny who's who's

3482
04:42:49,010 --> 04:42:55,230
Those that's half the conversation to guess to have with people and we that means that we both are getting fewer people

3483
04:42:56,330 --> 04:43:00,170
Referred to treatment, but we also when we talked about and rightfully

3484
04:43:00,170 --> 04:43:06,690
Celebrate our hep A response which wasn't spread through dirty needles, but was because we had a relationship

3485
04:43:06,690 --> 04:43:12,490
We have half the relationships that we had in September of 2017 to be able to do with the hep A outbreak

3486
04:43:13,530 --> 04:43:20,330
For leaders, the downtown streets claim has cleaned up so far, and it's not even a year yet,

3487
04:43:20,390 --> 04:43:21,450
6000 needles.

3488
04:43:23,370 --> 04:43:28,890
It was not the purpose of the downtown streets team to be a needle abatement strategy.

3489
04:43:29,350 --> 04:43:32,350
They just happened to be out cleaning trash and it's job training program.

3490
04:43:32,930 --> 04:43:40,090
But for that program, which had nothing to do with needles, we would have 6000 needles in

3491
04:43:40,090 --> 04:43:40,610
our community.

3492
04:43:40,610 --> 04:43:45,330
We have 217 reported by state of our shore, thousands by the city parts of our men, thousands

3493
04:43:45,330 --> 04:43:46,430
by community members.

3494
04:43:47,470 --> 04:43:49,930
We have to figure out a way to drive that to zero.

3495
04:43:50,110 --> 04:43:53,990
So when we look at some of the solutions, I'm absolutely supportive of Kiosk, I've gone

3496
04:43:53,990 --> 04:43:56,950
to city council members and asked them to put up Kiosk.

3497
04:43:57,110 --> 04:43:59,310
But we had a Kiosk at the Gateway Camp.

3498
04:43:59,350 --> 04:44:00,450
There was 20 feet away.

3499
04:44:00,510 --> 04:44:06,090
We had HP HP, there was a stone throw away, and there were hundreds of needles on the ground

3500
04:44:06,090 --> 04:44:10,090
in our waterway when that camp disbanded.

3501
04:44:10,090 --> 04:44:13,510
with a kiosk, with services there.

3502
04:44:14,330 --> 04:44:16,370
When I look at systems, this isn't connect,

3503
04:44:17,310 --> 04:44:18,990
I, in general, like the idea,

3504
04:44:19,710 --> 04:44:22,130
but SAMHSA's goes spend $700,000 a year

3505
04:44:22,130 --> 04:44:24,930
to have a 24th seven needle program,

3506
04:44:25,370 --> 04:44:27,270
and SAMHSA's goes an unmitigated disaster

3507
04:44:27,270 --> 04:44:28,190
for needle waste.

3508
04:44:28,810 --> 04:44:33,130
So it's trying to figure out how we address that

3509
04:44:33,130 --> 04:44:35,550
without spending $700,000 a year,

3510
04:44:36,190 --> 04:44:38,030
and because once we have a system connect app,

3511
04:44:38,390 --> 04:44:39,770
when somebody reports that,

3512
04:44:39,770 --> 04:44:43,730
I'm going to expect as a homeowner if I find a needle in front of my house that somebody

3513
04:44:43,730 --> 04:44:46,630
will be there within the hour to clean it up.

3514
04:44:46,770 --> 04:44:52,130
That is an expensive proposition and I've tell you talking to city Santa Cruz they're not

3515
04:44:52,130 --> 04:44:55,890
going to send people they expect us to send people we're distributing needles so the

3516
04:44:55,890 --> 04:44:59,970
County is going to be running a countywide program trying to connect.

3517
04:45:02,420 --> 04:45:16,100
And then we look at expansion, whether it's, and I do believe I am supportive of some expansion, but if you look at HPHP, coral street is a complete public health and public policy failure right now.

3518
04:45:16,240 --> 04:45:21,360
You have every child that's trying to participate in a summer program, driving through an open air drug market.

3519
04:45:22,660 --> 04:45:30,020
It's totally unacceptable situation and to add yet another service into that area without talking to the neighbors and without having a strategy.

3520
04:45:30,640 --> 04:45:36,560
For what's going on, you cannot have coral street look the way it is and ask to expand programs.

3521
04:45:36,560 --> 04:45:42,840
Similarly, I am supportive of Hispanic, but if you look at, but if the third problem is

3522
04:45:42,840 --> 04:45:46,660
really about community outreach, how many conversations have we had with the neighborhoods

3523
04:45:46,660 --> 04:45:51,920
before we tell, before we advocate for expansions?

3524
04:45:52,740 --> 04:46:01,560
So I think I want to support, and I will support SSP, I will support the very good public health

3525
04:46:01,560 --> 04:46:08,000
people who are trying and expansion of treatment, but we just can't keep saying, we have

3526
04:46:08,000 --> 04:46:13,640
these schools of winter payment, and then, I mean, but for the fortune of bringing the downtown

3527
04:46:13,640 --> 04:46:18,400
association, connecting with Street's team, there's 6,000 needles that would have been picked

3528
04:46:18,400 --> 04:46:21,480
up by citizens, parts workers, or somebody else.

3529
04:46:21,800 --> 04:46:24,460
And that's 6,000 needles that shouldn't have been picked up in the first place.

3530
04:46:25,140 --> 04:46:33,960
And so I think I appreciate the efforts but it's not working right now and so it's very, very challenging

3531
04:46:34,860 --> 04:46:39,280
to advocate for expansions when it's very much not working.

3532
04:46:39,660 --> 04:46:46,660
And in other counties that have much, much smaller programs, even though they're dramatically larger, their programs are working.

3533
04:46:47,280 --> 04:46:53,140
So it's hard to figure out what exactly is going on here when you want to look at the data and you want to look at best practices.

3534
04:46:55,040 --> 04:46:58,340
Thank you for indulging me.

3535
04:46:58,700 --> 04:46:59,760
And I'm going to ask, I'm going to ask,

3536
04:46:59,760 --> 04:47:01,100
I suppose, first of all, we'll work

3537
04:47:01,100 --> 04:47:03,480
away around the board, everyone can have comments.

3538
04:47:03,620 --> 04:47:04,040
Thank you.

3539
04:47:04,280 --> 04:47:05,040
I agree with that.

3540
04:47:05,420 --> 04:47:07,480
I, you know, string exchange, excuse me.

3541
04:47:07,720 --> 04:47:09,460
This string exchange has been an important

3542
04:47:09,460 --> 04:47:12,060
element in reducing our communicable, but disease.

3543
04:47:12,440 --> 04:47:14,380
Nobody disagrees with that, and it's proven

3544
04:47:14,380 --> 04:47:16,800
positive outcome here in elsewhere.

3545
04:47:16,840 --> 04:47:18,180
And I'm really grateful for it.

3546
04:47:18,740 --> 04:47:21,320
And I want to thank the Health Services Department,

3547
04:47:21,320 --> 04:47:29,140
agency to having brought this report to us and having to air this out as we should do probably

3548
04:47:29,140 --> 04:47:35,520
more than each every two years. But I think that we have the county does have an obligation

3549
04:47:35,520 --> 04:47:45,120
to find out what our program may be contributing to or against or for the program. Needle exchanges

3550
04:47:45,120 --> 04:47:49,380
has been in my district and supervisor cap, it's district up to now.

3551
04:47:50,620 --> 04:47:57,320
I'm also troubled as stated that according to SSP, we've seen the number of unique

3552
04:47:57,320 --> 04:48:08,920
ID clients fault 40% in the past four years, but then we also have syringes that we're

3553
04:48:08,920 --> 04:48:16,280
giving out a nearly tripled, we're seeing fewer clients and giving out more needles.

3554
04:48:17,460 --> 04:48:18,380
That's troubling to me.

3555
04:48:18,600 --> 04:48:19,820
That doesn't seem to fit, right?

3556
04:48:19,900 --> 04:48:21,500
Doesn't make good math to me.

3557
04:48:22,660 --> 04:48:27,900
We must help more people treat their addiction rather than just manage it.

3558
04:48:27,900 --> 04:48:37,140
And I do agree with much of what supervisor clearly said, if it's proper to like to move

3559
04:48:37,140 --> 04:48:43,200
motion. It's a pretty lengthy one of one I've thought about and would like to move

3560
04:48:43,200 --> 04:48:52,540
a motion to prove the recommended action and to accept HSA Bionial Report for SSP, and

3561
04:48:52,540 --> 04:48:58,380
that we give this additional direction. There are seven points that have been down.

3562
04:48:59,160 --> 04:49:05,640
Direct HSA to reduce the maximum number of clean syringes exchanged per person, per visit,

3563
04:49:05,640 --> 04:49:08,720
at SSE sites from 150.

3564
04:49:10,140 --> 04:49:18,040
Suringes returned to the county should be in clear containers as to be visible to staff receiving the syringes and be weighed.

3565
04:49:18,740 --> 04:49:24,540
This step will more closely align our procedures with our board approve one to one exchange policy.

3566
04:49:25,760 --> 04:49:32,640
Second, in order to encourage more people to use primary exchange as a six-month pilot,

3567
04:49:32,640 --> 04:49:38,080
That we direct health services agency to increase the hours at the M-line and lots of

3568
04:49:38,080 --> 04:49:44,400
ill clinics to 15 hours per week and to conduct a community meeting to address any concerns.

3569
04:49:44,880 --> 04:49:50,600
I would ask for a report back in six months to determine whether the increased hours and fewer

3570
04:49:50,600 --> 04:49:54,860
needles per visit serve the purpose of encouraging greater use of our exchange.

3571
04:49:56,320 --> 04:50:02,620
Number three, direct the county administrative officer to manage a 90-day waste-stream assessment

3572
04:50:02,620 --> 04:50:08,660
using mark syringes to determine the extent to which syringes exchange by the county, this

3573
04:50:08,660 --> 04:50:12,240
county, are contributing to the needle litter.

3574
04:50:13,160 --> 04:50:15,220
That's an unnecessary answer to question now.

3575
04:50:15,740 --> 04:50:20,640
The assessment should be conducted by an independent provider that is needed the county or state

3576
04:50:20,640 --> 04:50:21,660
department of health.

3577
04:50:22,960 --> 04:50:27,500
The assessment will be confidential and conducted for a period of time with specific markings

3578
04:50:27,500 --> 04:50:33,300
It's not made known to the SSP clients and the results reported back to the board within six

3579
04:50:33,300 --> 04:50:34,240
months of completion.

3580
04:50:36,680 --> 04:50:42,960
For, correct the Health Services Agency to return to the board by September 24th, 2019 with

3581
04:50:42,960 --> 04:50:50,220
an ordinance to change the SSP advisory group to a seven member SSP advisory commission subject

3582
04:50:50,220 --> 04:50:55,780
to the Brown Act with one seat appointed for district and two seats appointed at large.

3583
04:50:57,120 --> 04:51:03,240
five direct health service agency to work with the local jurisdictions to explore additional

3584
04:51:03,240 --> 04:51:09,920
options for installing safe sharps disposal containers at HSA's expense if jurisdictions

3585
04:51:09,920 --> 04:51:12,820
agreed to the placement of the containers.

3586
04:51:15,020 --> 04:51:21,660
Six direct the HSA to start tracking the number of SSP clients successfully referred to

3587
04:51:21,660 --> 04:51:23,180
assist in treatment.

3588
04:51:25,160 --> 04:51:29,920
And lastly, number seven, on mobile services and the homeless person's health project,

3589
04:51:30,740 --> 04:51:35,280
while there may be benefits to the county providing additional services by public health

3590
04:51:36,150 --> 04:51:36,800
in the future.

3591
04:51:36,940 --> 04:51:38,380
Now it's not the time.

3592
04:51:38,600 --> 04:51:43,760
Given our concerns about the current exchange, and mobile exchange should involve community

3593
04:51:43,760 --> 04:51:50,000
input about appropriate sighting and timing, if that decision is to be made, there's the

3594
04:51:50,000 --> 04:51:50,680
motion I have.

3595
04:51:50,680 --> 04:51:52,540
And I'll second that.

3596
04:51:52,820 --> 04:51:53,820
Supervisor Capit?

3597
04:51:56,270 --> 04:51:58,850
I think we're pretty much ready for a vote.

3598
04:51:59,830 --> 04:52:02,090
I want to thank everybody for coming here.

3599
04:52:04,730 --> 04:52:07,690
And it's an honor to be a part of the board

3600
04:52:07,690 --> 04:52:11,390
and actually showing everybody where I had

3601
04:52:11,390 --> 04:52:16,270
of what it looked like it was coming down from the state.

3602
04:52:16,770 --> 04:52:18,470
It was very disorganized.

3603
04:52:18,470 --> 04:52:23,470
And we've always been on top of this for quite a while

3604
04:52:23,470 --> 04:52:25,770
and we're trying to improve it.

3605
04:52:26,670 --> 04:52:27,850
So we're ready to go.

3606
04:52:27,990 --> 04:52:29,970
I think this is good for South County and it's...

3607
04:52:31,600 --> 04:52:35,140
So, I think it's a slam dunk on the vote.

3608
04:52:35,480 --> 04:52:36,520
Supervisor Leopold.

3609
04:52:38,060 --> 04:52:43,200
Thank you, Chair. Thank you for everyone's testimony today.

3610
04:52:43,420 --> 04:52:50,120
I really appreciate it, and I continually learn from the public as I engage in conversations about this.

3611
04:52:51,200 --> 04:52:58,280
I've had the place of watching needle exchange or Syrian services over the past 25 years,

3612
04:52:58,280 --> 04:53:02,860
when the county passes first ordinance about this in 1995.

3613
04:53:03,420 --> 04:53:05,640
I was the executive director of the AIDS project.

3614
04:53:07,440 --> 04:53:09,840
And so over that period of time,

3615
04:53:09,940 --> 04:53:12,480
I've seen the ups and downs of this program.

3616
04:53:14,100 --> 04:53:16,840
And there's a couple of things that stand out to me.

3617
04:53:17,200 --> 04:53:22,180
One is that when there has not been a strong institutional program,

3618
04:53:22,740 --> 04:53:26,860
volunteers have filled the gap, because we are a compassionate community.

3619
04:53:26,860 --> 04:53:51,460
And so, as that way, when it started back in 94s, the first time, I became aware that there was a needle exchange program in Santa Cruz, eventually the Santa Cruz AIDS project took it over, and then as that organization was suffering great difficulties, volunteers then showed up again as street outreach supporters.

3620
04:53:52,460 --> 04:54:00,800
their actions cause the county to take the program over, but we have consistently shrunk

3621
04:54:00,800 --> 04:54:09,960
our program, and that has resulted in volunteers stepping up to fill the gap, because

3622
04:54:10,820 --> 04:54:16,560
regardless of how you compare us to other counties, we have people who inject drugs in Santa

3623
04:54:16,560 --> 04:54:17,280
Bruce County.

3624
04:54:19,700 --> 04:54:28,280
The other thing that is kind of clear to me is that when you have a well-run program

3625
04:54:28,280 --> 04:54:31,180
that's actually following best practices, it can do good things.

3626
04:54:32,980 --> 04:54:41,380
And for 15 or 17, or maybe more of those years, that there was some kind of needle exchange

3627
04:54:41,380 --> 04:54:49,220
certain services program, we didn't hear and did not see needle litter in the same way that

3628
04:54:49,220 --> 04:54:50,920
we have in the recent past.

3629
04:54:53,820 --> 04:54:57,440
We should not feel comfortable with the level of needle waste

3630
04:54:57,440 --> 04:55:01,880
in our community. It's unacceptable, it's unhealthy,

3631
04:55:04,410 --> 04:55:12,030
and we shouldn't just look at that as an

3632
04:55:12,030 --> 04:55:19,710
waste problem that HSA is connected to it because there's a public health strategy that involves

3633
04:55:19,710 --> 04:55:22,870
needles and then there are needles out in the community.

3634
04:55:24,130 --> 04:55:30,070
It doesn't mean that HSA is the one that's responsible for that and there was a needle

3635
04:55:30,070 --> 04:55:32,710
little problem before HSA was involved.

3636
04:55:33,350 --> 04:55:41,870
So, you know, this idea that somehow that our program is the cause of this is just not born

3637
04:55:41,870 --> 04:55:48,870
And it, it was not born out by looking at other communities that also have need a little program problems.

3638
04:55:49,690 --> 04:55:53,070
Santa Cruz is not the only community that has a need a little problem.

3639
04:55:54,610 --> 04:55:58,530
And that is also a recent vintage in other communities.

3640
04:55:58,810 --> 04:56:04,390
As the state laws have changed about the accessibility of needles, there are other places to get needles.

3641
04:56:04,390 --> 04:56:11,370
And as a result, there are more needles in our community and other communities.

3642
04:56:12,510 --> 04:56:21,330
We should not sit still or assume that it will just take care of itself.

3643
04:56:21,990 --> 04:56:24,850
We need to be aggressive in that.

3644
04:56:25,010 --> 04:56:30,490
And that's aggressive in terms of having places where people can place needles, having people

3645
04:56:30,490 --> 04:56:35,850
to clean up needles, working with other jurisdictions to also do the same.

3646
04:56:36,830 --> 04:56:43,310
We have tried to get other communities that where their residents have complained about

3647
04:56:43,310 --> 04:56:50,090
needles to take kiosk, and we have been rejected consistently with a few exceptions.

3648
04:56:51,750 --> 04:56:59,390
So as I look at this motion, I think that that is a failed strategy to just say let's

3649
04:56:59,390 --> 04:57:07,230
to work with them. If Grand Street Park or cows beach or another park or coral street has needles,

3650
04:57:07,850 --> 04:57:11,930
we should work to place kiosk there. Not wait.

3651
04:57:15,240 --> 04:57:19,700
We should also use good science that we do care

3652
04:57:19,700 --> 04:57:24,700
about that. We had a science march here in Santa Cruz County. We said that we cared about

3653
04:57:24,700 --> 04:57:32,200
good science. We criticize legislators for not following good science. And so we shouldn't

3654
04:57:32,200 --> 04:57:40,940
accept something that I understand the perfect, I understand the motivation for people wanting

3655
04:57:40,940 --> 04:57:46,520
to do things, but it's not backed up by the research. It's not backed up by the science.

3656
04:57:48,420 --> 04:57:55,400
And so it's hard for me to support an arbitrary cut from a hundred to fifty. Why should it be

3657
04:57:55,400 --> 04:57:59,220
seventy-five? Should it be twenty-five? Should it be cut at all?

3658
04:58:01,860 --> 04:58:04,100
When I see, when I understand

3659
04:58:04,100 --> 04:58:09,900
the concerns about the number of needles giving out and the reduction in the number

3660
04:58:09,900 --> 04:58:17,700
of individuals coming into the SSP program, we could look at that as saying, you have the

3661
04:58:17,700 --> 04:58:24,400
so little, under 10 hours a week, that you have to increase secondary exchange because we're

3662
04:58:24,400 --> 04:58:30,880
just not available to people. And so people that people who are in need find someone to

3663
04:58:30,880 --> 04:58:38,800
take their needles in because nine hours isn't enough. So maybe we should increase the number

3664
04:58:38,800 --> 04:58:47,820
of hours and look at that impact in six months and assess whether that actually gets more

3665
04:58:47,820 --> 04:58:52,880
people through the door and into the program into the things we say we care about.

3666
04:58:53,420 --> 04:59:04,460
Because I think HSA has worked very hard to tie in their syringe services program with

3667
04:59:04,460 --> 04:59:12,220
trying to connect people to clinics and services and it takes really good staff to be able

3668
04:59:12,220 --> 04:59:12,780
to do that.

3669
04:59:13,020 --> 04:59:19,500
We need dedicated staff, people who are used to doing it because say what you will about

3670
04:59:19,500 --> 04:59:25,740
the harm reduction, Rocho, and I understand the concerns that were raised there.

3671
04:59:27,460 --> 04:59:33,840
But the idea that someone's out there trying to help people and that a secondary exchange

3672
04:59:33,840 --> 04:59:39,180
is a bad thing if they don't include hep C testing or HIV testing.

3673
04:59:39,280 --> 04:59:43,420
When I was at the AIDS project, we had health outreach workers who regularly met with people.

3674
04:59:43,660 --> 04:59:44,560
They didn't give out needles.

3675
04:59:44,740 --> 04:59:50,860
That wasn't something the AIDS project did, but they gave out condoms, they gave out supplies

3676
04:59:51,780 --> 04:59:57,540
for people to inject carefully and they worked to get them into testing.

3677
04:59:58,520 --> 04:59:59,980
And we actually, at that time, had...

3678
05:00:00,000 --> 05:00:07,880
Much more robust testing program and community testing spots that we don't have today, or the same kind today.

3679
05:00:13,320 --> 05:00:14,180
When

3680
05:00:18,920 --> 05:00:35,380
we went to link our successful and recognized program of homeless person's health project, with the problems down a choral street, you know, they aren't the reason.

3681
05:00:36,080 --> 05:00:38,240
that there are problems down the course street.

3682
05:00:38,580 --> 05:00:42,120
We place the program because that's where the people were, right?

3683
05:00:42,140 --> 05:00:47,260
And so I believe in community outreach and community meetings.

3684
05:00:47,760 --> 05:00:48,760
I think that that's critical.

3685
05:00:50,960 --> 05:00:54,240
But let's not say that our effectiveness in placing programs

3686
05:00:54,240 --> 05:00:56,620
where the problems are, are the reasons

3687
05:00:56,620 --> 05:00:59,800
where we shouldn't do something for that population.

3688
05:01:00,360 --> 05:01:02,500
That was the whole strategy to begin with.

3689
05:01:04,130 --> 05:01:06,790
I take everybody at their word.

3690
05:01:07,450 --> 05:01:11,150
I didn't hear people speak about us against the Syrian service program.

3691
05:01:11,290 --> 05:01:12,910
I heard a lot of support for it.

3692
05:01:13,170 --> 05:01:16,070
And I'm grateful that we're past that part of the discussion.

3693
05:01:17,530 --> 05:01:20,670
And I think we should try to use science wherever possible

3694
05:01:20,670 --> 05:01:27,170
because it's a very loaded issue.

3695
05:01:28,190 --> 05:01:30,710
And there's a lot of emotion in it.

3696
05:01:30,710 --> 05:01:34,010
And sometimes a motion doesn't make the best policy.

3697
05:01:34,530 --> 05:01:36,390
Science helps makes it the best policy.

3698
05:01:37,890 --> 05:01:41,390
And we can't let the perfect get away

3699
05:01:41,390 --> 05:01:43,730
of the good, understand that.

3700
05:01:44,270 --> 05:01:47,030
And so I see that the staff has come with something

3701
05:01:47,030 --> 05:01:48,490
that's not perfect.

3702
05:01:50,130 --> 05:01:52,130
It's good, not perfect.

3703
05:01:53,790 --> 05:01:59,510
And we have to be aspiring to following the best practices.

3704
05:01:59,510 --> 05:02:05,570
the state office of AIDS, the National Association of Counties, the National League of

3705
05:02:05,570 --> 05:02:13,890
Cities, the Republican Congress Congress that funded needle exchange last year, these

3706
05:02:13,890 --> 05:02:22,750
aren't crazy left-wing anarchist organizations, right? I mean, these are reputable

3707
05:02:23,650 --> 05:02:29,490
organizations, organizations that we are part of, we choose to be part of, and

3708
05:02:29,490 --> 05:02:37,190
and they support this activity, and we know public health works too, because if you look

3709
05:02:37,190 --> 05:02:42,510
at our safe RX campaign as provided in the data, we can see that the opioid prescriptions

3710
05:02:42,510 --> 05:02:46,950
have gone down because of the interaction and the public education that's gone on.

3711
05:02:50,250 --> 05:02:54,310
When I look at this motion, I can't support it.

3712
05:02:54,310 --> 05:03:05,810
It's far too broad, reducing it for 150 to me that does not seem like anything that's backed by science.

3713
05:03:06,530 --> 05:03:08,290
It feels completely arbitrary.

3714
05:03:10,850 --> 05:03:13,190
Six-month pilot about extra hours.

3715
05:03:14,610 --> 05:03:17,070
That might be something that will work.

3716
05:03:18,090 --> 05:03:24,530
The waste stream assessment, again, I don't even know whether it's possible to do this.

3717
05:03:24,950 --> 05:03:26,710
I don't know what it would cost to do this.

3718
05:03:26,990 --> 05:03:34,710
It's hard to support something that is so amorphous that you can't figure out exactly what

3719
05:03:34,710 --> 05:03:42,830
it is you're buying into, and to try to figure out what, I think it came back with a suggestion

3720
05:03:42,830 --> 05:03:47,350
about how that would be done and what would be cost, we can make an assessment of it, but

3721
05:03:47,350 --> 05:03:52,550
just given today what's written here, I don't feel like I could sign on to it.

3722
05:03:53,670 --> 05:04:00,870
When I look at the SSP Advisory Commission, you know, I remember when we set this up and we

3723
05:04:00,870 --> 05:04:07,490
have a bunch of professionals on there and law enforcement was invited to participate and a

3724
05:04:08,350 --> 05:04:17,490
a couple of the members spoke today, Damon, and Dr. Rinerman, both spoke, I think you're

3725
05:04:17,490 --> 05:04:23,470
both on it. And we have a bunch of health professionals, and it seems like those people

3726
05:04:23,470 --> 05:04:29,490
who actually know something about disease prevention are useful. And whether there should be

3727
05:04:29,490 --> 05:04:33,990
other people as part of that. Okay, that's a good idea too,

3728
05:04:36,730 --> 05:04:38,530
but I want us to be directed

3729
05:04:38,530 --> 05:04:47,350
by good public health data and science, not just emotion. When it comes to working with local

3730
05:04:47,350 --> 05:04:52,170
jurisdictions, I think we should have something a little bit stronger. For instance, I think

3731
05:04:52,170 --> 05:04:56,750
we should direct the chair to write a letter to the mayor of the city of Santa Cruz and ask

3732
05:04:56,750 --> 05:04:58,990
them to respond back to us.

3733
05:04:59,290 --> 05:05:01,650
So there's something in writing, because I've had those conversations.

3734
05:05:02,570 --> 05:05:06,250
And every council member, I talk to you and say, well, yeah, sure, that sounds like a good

3735
05:05:06,250 --> 05:05:06,510
idea.

3736
05:05:06,850 --> 05:05:12,370
But we never get it to the place where there's one actually place unless there's a crisis

3737
05:05:12,370 --> 05:05:14,050
as there was with the Rossing Campman.

3738
05:05:14,570 --> 05:05:20,210
So I think that we should have something stronger and ask them to tell us that they don't want

3739
05:05:20,210 --> 05:05:20,810
these things.

3740
05:05:21,150 --> 05:05:25,550
So there's citizens can understand that they don't want to participate, that it's in writing

3741
05:05:26,170 --> 05:05:33,290
because the county has key us in the warehouse ready to deploy, but we don't have, we don't

3742
05:05:33,290 --> 05:05:38,570
have support from cities to place them. It's not, it's not the magic bullet. It won't

3743
05:05:38,570 --> 05:05:43,290
make the problem go away, but we should at least attempt to place these because we've seen

3744
05:05:43,290 --> 05:05:47,430
that where we place them, at least it collects some of the needleways that's in our community.

3745
05:05:50,370 --> 05:05:57,330
I don't know the answer about SSP clients successfully referred because, again, you might make

3746
05:05:57,330 --> 05:06:04,950
the referral, but if they never show up, it's hard to, I don't know what the appropriate

3747
05:06:04,950 --> 05:06:06,070
measure for that.

3748
05:06:06,350 --> 05:06:08,150
It's an admirable goal.

3749
05:06:10,130 --> 05:06:16,230
And if we want to hold off on the mobile services until we see what's happening with the expanded

3750
05:06:16,230 --> 05:06:22,890
hours great, but for all I can tell from the discussion that's going on about the harm reduction

3751
05:06:22,890 --> 05:06:30,810
roadshow, is that there appears to be people using drugs outside the city of Santa Cruz. And

3752
05:06:32,590 --> 05:06:38,130
we should think about how we get those services available to people outside the city of Santa Cruz.

3753
05:06:40,820 --> 05:06:47,280
And mobile services were once part of the array of services that we had for exchange, and

3754
05:06:47,280 --> 05:06:50,440
stop for various reasons, and maybe we need to think about that again.

3755
05:06:51,140 --> 05:06:52,200
We don't have to do that right away.

3756
05:06:52,420 --> 05:06:58,100
I don't think the staff was suggesting right away, but I'd be happy to come back and

3757
05:06:58,100 --> 05:07:00,240
take a look at that.

3758
05:07:00,840 --> 05:07:05,600
We should not accept need of waste, and we should do everything we can, and we're going to have

3759
05:07:05,600 --> 05:07:10,040
to spend money in order to help clean up the community.

3760
05:07:11,760 --> 05:07:16,840
We should use the best science to make decisions about how to practice public health, because

3761
05:07:16,840 --> 05:07:21,920
We've seen that when public health practice does those best practices, we have good results.

3762
05:07:24,120 --> 05:07:29,500
And we should operate not about trying to limit this, but trying to make it successful.

3763
05:07:30,000 --> 05:07:59,980
Actually, meets the need. And the research tells us if you have a program that does a better job of meeting the need, you can actually see less litter. That is, there is national research on that. We got information in our packet about state research on that. That's clear. And so if we're committed to that, we have to take in all those pieces. We can't just pick and choose from that. So I don't support the motion and I hope that we can.

3764
05:08:00,000 --> 05:08:03,660
talk about making some amendments to it in the hopes to make it stronger.

3765
05:08:06,920 --> 05:08:10,840
Thank you, Chair, before we're using our health professionals for heat stroke treatment

3766
05:08:10,840 --> 05:08:13,300
I'll try and make this a much faster here.

3767
05:08:13,360 --> 05:08:16,680
I think that we can actually get to a motion that can be supported by the majority of the board.

3768
05:08:17,180 --> 05:08:19,280
I have two brief questions of the health staff.

3769
05:08:20,120 --> 05:08:23,940
The first one is just on the point here of reduction from 150.

3770
05:08:26,120 --> 05:08:30,200
Do you have a number of a sense of what the average giveaway per person would be?

3771
05:08:30,200 --> 05:08:33,720
What the reduction would mean as far as access components?

3772
05:08:34,800 --> 05:08:35,120
I agree.

3773
05:08:35,260 --> 05:08:37,400
Let's do a visorally a poll that this is an arbitrary cut.

3774
05:08:37,760 --> 05:08:40,600
The question is what does that cut actually mean,

3775
05:08:41,040 --> 05:08:42,900
as far as that delivery services would be concerned?

3776
05:08:44,520 --> 05:08:49,960
I think there's a difference right between 50 for primary

3777
05:08:49,960 --> 05:08:52,180
and 50 in a secondary exchange.

3778
05:08:52,220 --> 05:08:55,480
We're saying that essentially you treat all exchanges as

3779
05:08:55,480 --> 05:08:56,340
primary exchanges.

3780
05:08:56,340 --> 05:09:04,020
So for people who are primary exchanges, obviously cause a reduction of people who are getting,

3781
05:09:04,020 --> 05:09:09,660
or operating secondary exchanges, with the idea that we're trying to drive, I'd like to see

3782
05:09:09,660 --> 05:09:14,840
100% increase the number of people that use the clinic, so we're trying to drive that up.

3783
05:09:16,300 --> 05:09:20,860
So there's a lot of people who are using secondary exchange, who aren't coming there, and this

3784
05:09:20,860 --> 05:09:23,500
would obviously drive them trying to get those people there.

3785
05:09:23,500 --> 05:09:27,900
So, I got that, but I mean, then you would do something that regulate the secondary exchange.

3786
05:09:28,180 --> 05:09:31,660
I mean, so, meaning that you might be going out at the wrong way.

3787
05:09:31,700 --> 05:09:38,400
If what you're trying to do is eliminate an independent or non-transparent or whatever

3788
05:09:38,400 --> 05:09:42,560
adjective you want to use, third-party exchange, and everything would be under the controls of the county,

3789
05:09:42,840 --> 05:09:44,840
then make that statement, I mean, just ban them.

3790
05:09:45,300 --> 05:09:50,060
But then what you would do then is then not regulate what the county says is the best practice

3791
05:09:50,060 --> 05:09:53,900
in the distribution under that regulated model because those are mutually exclusive things.

3792
05:09:54,620 --> 05:10:00,180
So what I'm asking then is what the reduction from a hundred to fifty would mean.

3793
05:10:00,560 --> 05:10:07,820
I did actually hear by the way remarkable amount of common ground even though people were approaching it differently, which was interesting.

3794
05:10:09,160 --> 05:10:16,200
So I think that there's a way to actually get there that would even if people didn't actually recognize it actually make this motion something that could be done.

3795
05:10:16,200 --> 05:10:24,320
So if we went from 150 had detrimental and essence with that fee, to me, I would be willing to keep it

3796
05:10:24,320 --> 05:10:28,160
at 100, unless I could be shown that there's a reason that the reduction would actually

3797
05:10:28,160 --> 05:10:32,940
do something that would meet the public health interests that are being expressed or concerns that are being expressed from my colleagues.

3798
05:10:33,440 --> 05:10:34,040
Ms. Hall?

3799
05:10:35,620 --> 05:10:38,040
So that's actually moving in the wrong direction.

3800
05:10:38,600 --> 05:10:45,240
We were very conservative in our request to the board, because we recognize that we're not close to best practice.

3801
05:10:45,240 --> 05:10:52,980
What we're trying to do is balance what capacity and resources that we have and expand it slowly.

3802
05:10:53,940 --> 05:10:59,520
I truly believe, and I believe that Dr. Guilerjuchi and Jen, you may also chime in.

3803
05:10:59,760 --> 05:11:03,820
But I think the first thing that we need to do is expand access and availability.

3804
05:11:04,840 --> 05:11:12,820
The primary reason I believe that we're seeing this large reduction in folks physically coming in is because we don't have access.

3805
05:11:12,820 --> 05:11:17,880
being open 10 hours a week or five hours a week and Watsonville does not.

3806
05:11:18,180 --> 05:11:23,940
And so I believe you were open 10 hours a week in 2014 and you had 40% more people.

3807
05:11:24,820 --> 05:11:28,660
So the hours haven't changed and you're seeing what has changed.

3808
05:11:28,780 --> 05:11:33,380
What has changed is that someone in the community or a few someone's in the community

3809
05:11:33,380 --> 05:11:36,480
recognize the gap and decided to step in.

3810
05:11:36,680 --> 05:11:42,320
So my understanding of how the secondary exchange started was last Memorial, a year ago Memorial Day.

3811
05:11:42,320 --> 05:11:45,840
I wasn't around, but from what I understand of the history

3812
05:11:45,840 --> 05:11:48,840
that County was closed on a Monday on a county holiday.

3813
05:11:49,580 --> 05:11:53,820
And it started kind of informally to provide the service to folks

3814
05:11:53,820 --> 05:11:55,820
because we only provided three days a week.

3815
05:11:56,380 --> 05:11:59,560
So if we have a county holiday on a Monday and or a Friday,

3816
05:12:00,200 --> 05:12:03,460
that three days a week turns into two or one days a week.

3817
05:12:03,600 --> 05:12:08,200
And what we have heard in terms of feedback from our clients is that

3818
05:12:08,200 --> 05:12:11,000
they'll carry around a hundred needles waiting for our students

3819
05:12:11,000 --> 05:12:15,120
Because they're not exactly sure that they can actually access us every time we're open.

3820
05:12:15,820 --> 05:12:24,420
And so I think it would be more prudent to allow us to expand our hours, see how those hours change.

3821
05:12:24,780 --> 05:12:32,480
Because now we have different items that play now than we may have had a couple of years ago.

3822
05:12:32,500 --> 05:12:36,180
The other thing that I want to say is our program has changed dramatically.

3823
05:12:36,340 --> 05:12:39,040
When I first got here, I've been director for seven months.

3824
05:12:39,040 --> 05:12:50,780
When I first got here, our exchange was located, and I will call it a hole, like a 100-square-foot hole, in the back end of our building, our clients have a proper waiting room.

3825
05:12:51,260 --> 05:13:00,940
We have changed that so that there is a dedicated space. It's bright, it's open, it has privacy, has the ability to conduct multiples exchanges at one time.

3826
05:13:00,940 --> 05:13:04,860
every one of Danny's mat staff, they staff a shift.

3827
05:13:05,560 --> 05:13:08,780
Everyone of those shifts are staff by public health nurse.

3828
05:13:09,120 --> 05:13:10,280
Everyone of those shifts.

3829
05:13:11,220 --> 05:13:14,780
So I would say that the changes that we've made have just happened

3830
05:13:14,780 --> 05:13:18,800
very recently and it's only been since February that I'd asked Jen

3831
05:13:18,800 --> 05:13:21,640
to transition this under the communicable disease unit.

3832
05:13:22,020 --> 05:13:23,220
And we've made these changes.

3833
05:13:23,720 --> 05:13:27,920
So I asked the board allow us to test the changes that we've had

3834
05:13:27,920 --> 05:13:34,500
to continue to document the successes that we have, grant us what we're requesting so that we can

3835
05:13:34,500 --> 05:13:39,200
come back and show if it makes a difference. What I really fear from a scientific standpoint

3836
05:13:39,200 --> 05:13:46,940
is that we pick some kind of arbitrary marker or information and make an assumption that that means

3837
05:13:46,940 --> 05:13:53,280
some certain kind of outcome. You know, we are a program is staffed by epidemiologist, a physician,

3838
05:13:53,280 --> 05:13:57,500
in public health nurses, my self as a public health professional,

3839
05:14:01,320 --> 05:14:02,560
certified addiction counselors.

3840
05:14:02,760 --> 05:14:09,200
I feel like we have the best brains on staff, and we have a great community advisory group

3841
05:14:09,200 --> 05:14:09,780
as well.

3842
05:14:10,220 --> 05:14:15,700
And so I feel, but come at this from DeRainville, which is I believe all that, and I want

3843
05:14:15,700 --> 05:14:21,220
more people to go to return, who we're, who we're using in a line, who's stopped using

3844
05:14:21,220 --> 05:14:24,520
online to return to MLINE to do all the things that you want.

3845
05:14:25,220 --> 05:14:31,520
But in a world of secondary exchanges, they won't return because, because, and there may

3846
05:14:31,520 --> 05:14:36,160
be lots of public health reasons for both, but if we want to eliminate secondary, as a policy

3847
05:14:36,160 --> 05:14:41,900
matter, if we want to eliminate secondary exchanges and in an anonymous system, somebody comes

3848
05:14:41,900 --> 05:14:45,160
in with 100 needles, how do you know it's their needles and they're not getting some from

3849
05:14:45,160 --> 05:14:45,760
somebody else?

3850
05:14:45,760 --> 05:14:51,640
It doesn't seem to be a way to eliminate a secondary exchange without reducing this number.

3851
05:14:52,100 --> 05:14:53,640
Well, may I make a suggestion?

3852
05:14:54,560 --> 05:14:59,740
I think a better way would be to ask staff to examine what that way could be.

3853
05:15:00,000 --> 05:15:05,700
So I admit we have a lot of work to do. There was a constituent that said we had an updated our policies and procedures.

3854
05:15:06,240 --> 05:15:10,840
Again, we've been really busy revamping this program and we're happy to address our shortfalls.

3855
05:15:11,520 --> 05:15:15,900
But one of the things that we can do is examine our secondary exchange practices.

3856
05:15:16,940 --> 05:15:25,080
We have talked about things like having training standards, protocols, policies, having certain kinds of entities,

3857
05:15:25,080 --> 05:15:28,180
enter into agreements to conduct exchange on our behalf.

3858
05:15:28,760 --> 05:15:33,320
There are all kinds of possibilities for us to provide that I think

3859
05:15:33,320 --> 05:15:36,420
the accountability that the board and some of the public is looking for

3860
05:15:36,420 --> 05:15:38,020
and we're happy to pursue that.

3861
05:15:38,300 --> 05:15:42,440
We could come back to the board in September after putting some thought

3862
05:15:42,440 --> 05:15:45,380
into that and provide some recommendations for the board.

3863
05:15:45,820 --> 05:15:52,140
I think that that's a better path than to choose, you know,

3864
05:15:52,140 --> 05:15:56,040
reduce the number that we exchange, then to kind of take a stab at different strategies.

3865
05:15:57,780 --> 05:16:00,200
And then we can test that and see if it really works.

3866
05:16:03,810 --> 05:16:05,030
American, continue on this.

3867
05:16:05,870 --> 05:16:11,810
So that answer the question and for me, I'm comfortable with it being, so, so I, we all

3868
05:16:11,810 --> 05:16:17,250
received, you know, over a thousand emails and contacts associated with the harm reduction

3869
05:16:17,250 --> 05:16:18,430
road shown a lot of suggestions.

3870
05:16:18,590 --> 05:16:23,310
So overwhelmingly what people said, except for the outliers, right, was that they wanted

3871
05:16:23,310 --> 05:16:29,150
this to be run by the county, that they wanted it to be under the county's control.

3872
05:16:30,070 --> 05:16:32,670
I think one of the things that's important is that you have to accept the fact that that

3873
05:16:32,670 --> 05:16:35,670
means an expansion of county services, what that actually means. I mean, I don't know that

3874
05:16:36,230 --> 05:16:39,110
everybody's necessarily internalized with that really means, but that actually means that

3875
05:16:39,110 --> 05:16:44,670
you'll see more hours. What I would like to see before we move into a world of mobile that

3876
05:16:44,670 --> 05:16:49,390
may have externalities that we can account for yet is to at least expand the fixed point

3877
05:16:49,390 --> 05:16:54,690
to a point that we can at least say that it is or is not meeting the need of the community

3878
05:16:54,690 --> 05:16:58,590
after a certain period of time. What I'm seeing here is a movement toward that number

3879
05:16:58,590 --> 05:17:03,150
too, but I think that we should move toward what's being requested, which is of 20 hour a week

3880
05:17:03,670 --> 05:17:08,490
on that with the same six-month return. I think that some of these other recommendations are actually

3881
05:17:08,490 --> 05:17:13,970
okay. I'm maybe in sight disagreeing with my colleague on item four, which was in creation of this

3882
05:17:13,970 --> 05:17:18,150
group, the SSP advisory group, because I think there should be community buy-in too, and I think

3883
05:17:18,150 --> 05:17:44,590
And one of the ways that you do that is actually by having community members that aren't necessarily from the field sometimes have say and input into the system because as you can see most of the people that are showing up are from the community and feel a lot as sense of powerlessness in regards to a program that they don't really understand that they don't feel like they can control and feel like is being thrust on them in a way that they aren't having any kind of input in and I don't think that's reasonable. I think that there should be that that element.

3884
05:17:45,050 --> 05:17:49,190
I agree with my colleague as well that the chair should write the letter on number 5.

3885
05:17:49,550 --> 05:17:51,370
I think number 6 is what it is.

3886
05:17:51,610 --> 05:17:55,530
And for number 7, I just think that you adhere to the same timeline of a six month return.

3887
05:17:55,770 --> 05:18:00,070
So I mean, I think that there's a way to do this, which is I'm going to make a proposal

3888
05:18:00,070 --> 05:18:03,130
and amendment to the motion and we'll see whether we can get there.

3889
05:18:03,170 --> 05:18:05,610
I think that we eliminate number 1.

3890
05:18:05,750 --> 05:18:08,250
I think we change number 2 to 20 hours.

3891
05:18:08,290 --> 05:18:10,970
I think we can try number 3 because we'll see whether it works.

3892
05:18:10,970 --> 05:18:15,030
But I think that we may find out that it actually doesn't.

3893
05:18:15,270 --> 05:18:16,950
I'm fine with keeping number four.

3894
05:18:17,310 --> 05:18:20,770
Number five, I say we re-worded to say direct the chair to write local jurisdictions

3895
05:18:20,770 --> 05:18:22,550
and request a response.

3896
05:18:23,270 --> 05:18:26,630
Number six, we'll see whether tracking SSP clients is possible.

3897
05:18:26,630 --> 05:18:30,110
And number seven, that should be a six month as well.

3898
05:18:30,370 --> 05:18:32,210
I'll make that as an amendment to the motion.

3899
05:18:32,510 --> 05:18:38,210
I would, it's a second, it would, it would just be helpful on number three.

3900
05:18:38,210 --> 05:19:06,470
If we could get some report next week about what is my cost, I mean, we're doing budgets, hearings, I have no idea whether this is a $5,000 thing or a $50,000 item and it would just be good to know as to whether that's it's actual possible and so if I would I want to second your motion and I hope that you see that as a friendly amendment.

3901
05:19:06,470 --> 05:19:10,790
with a, with a, come back during budget to explain what, what number three would mean financially?

3902
05:19:11,370 --> 05:19:23,290
I guess, I, well, I would say this, which is, on the number one, okay, but we don't,

3903
05:19:23,450 --> 05:19:27,710
we're not going to expand hours until we know what their plan is to reduce secondary exchange,

3904
05:19:28,270 --> 05:19:32,590
because if you're just expanding hours and it's just more needles out the door,

3905
05:19:32,590 --> 05:19:39,950
like bringing forward a plan that matches the hours that makes people comfortable, but just

3906
05:19:39,950 --> 05:19:46,070
expanding hours, and then maybe having a secondary plan that we don't know yet is okay.

3907
05:19:46,950 --> 05:19:51,310
Yeah, I just the second area, I mean, somebody can come in and get hundreds of needles, and we don't

3908
05:19:51,310 --> 05:19:59,490
have any idea where they're going. I get it. We just, I think the board's unanimous in that

3909
05:19:59,490 --> 05:20:04,370
the question is whether or not what you're proposing gets you there and we're trying to get

3910
05:20:04,370 --> 05:20:09,590
the board's trying to get there. And I think that it may not be just if you can cut it down

3911
05:20:09,590 --> 05:20:16,690
to 25 needles, 50 needles, and I saw 10 people, 15 people show up from a road show that are

3912
05:20:16,690 --> 05:20:21,070
ready to get another 50 people that will now just be 50 people with 50 needles. So I mean if you're

3913
05:20:21,070 --> 05:20:24,750
trying to get rid of the secondary exchange, there's going to get more people to show up with less

3914
05:20:24,750 --> 05:20:29,470
needles to each person. That's not accomplishing your goal. Your goal is-

3915
05:20:29,470 --> 05:20:32,010
So if those people show up, they're by land and by land and by land.

3916
05:20:32,590 --> 05:20:38,750
Maybe Ms. Hald, you have an idea of what it would take to come back to us with a plan

3917
05:20:38,750 --> 05:20:47,550
for increased hours and managing the secondary exchange in a more meaningful way.

3918
05:20:48,650 --> 05:20:53,330
I mean, is that something that could be done in biogas, or September?

3919
05:20:53,770 --> 05:20:59,270
I mean, I think, well, I think the interest here and the chair can correct me if I'm wrong.

3920
05:20:59,270 --> 05:21:05,350
I think we do have an interest that we want as many people as possible going into this county

3921
05:21:05,350 --> 05:21:09,730
program that we feel like has all the elements that we want.

3922
05:21:10,870 --> 05:21:13,650
And so the question is, how do we best get there?

3923
05:21:14,510 --> 05:21:22,590
And if the concern is secondary exchange and we want to try to find a way to do hours and have some limits on

3924
05:21:22,590 --> 05:21:26,430
Well, let's talk about what that plan will look like.

3925
05:21:27,810 --> 05:21:30,330
And it doesn't stop us from doing the advisory commission.

3926
05:21:30,990 --> 05:21:35,230
If this waste thing is, you know, whatever that is,

3927
05:21:36,690 --> 05:21:40,270
but before we expand hours, we get information about what that program

3928
05:21:40,270 --> 05:21:42,890
might look like with expanded hours and costs.

3929
05:21:43,450 --> 05:21:45,550
I think that's a win for everybody.

3930
05:21:47,010 --> 05:21:49,690
So I will say that the current program that we have,

3931
05:21:49,690 --> 05:21:54,230
We dramatically changed our program from what it looked like six to nine months ago to what

3932
05:21:54,230 --> 05:21:59,490
it looks like today, without expanding more dollars, what we did was we took advantage

3933
05:21:59,490 --> 05:22:04,750
of leveraging the additional staff that we had that we were able to acquire through pragmatic

3934
05:22:04,750 --> 05:22:09,750
health, through our Matt grants, through whole person care, and we layered the staff that

3935
05:22:09,750 --> 05:22:15,050
we already have to ensure that their expertise was lent to the Surgeon Services program.

3936
05:22:15,050 --> 05:22:21,010
And so it's not so siloed as if we need X number of new dollars in order to expand these

3937
05:22:21,010 --> 05:22:21,350
hours.

3938
05:22:21,610 --> 05:22:27,230
We'll mean as going to the drawing board, taking a look at how we schedule people's shifts,

3939
05:22:27,950 --> 05:22:29,970
so I think that there's a positive bill.

3940
05:22:30,000 --> 05:22:39,240
That increasing to 20 hours could cost no extra dollars. There's a possibility that we find a way that we feel is better that would cost extra dollars.

3941
05:22:40,120 --> 05:22:45,080
And I think that we would have an idea of what those extra dollars might be after the governor's budget passes.

3942
05:22:45,680 --> 05:22:52,260
Regarding the key asks, we do have key asks sitting in a warehouse ready to be rolled out.

3943
05:22:52,660 --> 05:22:59,680
I'm absolutely, actually I had talked with staff about rolling out those key asks in some of our other jurisdictions or maybe other areas of the county.

3944
05:23:00,460 --> 05:23:05,060
And in the case where it was in other jurisdictions, I agree with you, supervisor Leopold.

3945
05:23:05,780 --> 05:23:10,720
I believe that if we didn't have a syringe services program at all, we would still have a syringe

3946
05:23:10,720 --> 05:23:11,480
litter problem.

3947
05:23:12,020 --> 05:23:16,760
I was able to order a box of 100 syringes from Amazon for less than $18.

3948
05:23:17,140 --> 05:23:20,760
And they were delivered to my doorstep, nobody asked me if I was over 18 or where I lived.

3949
05:23:21,540 --> 05:23:25,920
So I know that there is an ability to access syringes through other methodologies.

3950
05:23:26,980 --> 05:23:31,700
The people who have homes aren't ordering from Amazon and leaving syringes in the street.

3951
05:23:31,760 --> 05:23:32,560
No, I understand that.

3952
05:23:32,560 --> 05:23:34,160
I was going to say about the Kiosk.

3953
05:23:34,740 --> 05:23:39,700
We had actually talked about internally with staff that we would be willing to fund the

3954
05:23:39,700 --> 05:23:44,340
cost of servicing the Kiosk for the first year, and if it showed that they were well-utilized

3955
05:23:44,340 --> 05:23:49,020
and other municipalities have an agreement with that municipality to take over the cost, because

3956
05:23:49,020 --> 05:23:51,320
it is for the benefit of that municipality.

3957
05:23:51,820 --> 05:23:53,940
So, there are lots of different options that we could.

3958
05:23:53,940 --> 05:23:58,900
So let me just say, from my, our motion is that we would maintain the, we were maintaining

3959
05:23:58,900 --> 05:24:00,000
those in perpetuity.

3960
05:24:00,280 --> 05:24:01,460
We're the ones disturbing the needles.

3961
05:24:02,120 --> 05:24:03,200
We will pay for the chaos.

3962
05:24:03,380 --> 05:24:05,420
We're going to pay for the, the cleansing.

3963
05:24:05,980 --> 05:24:13,260
So my expectation of what I was going to send to the cities was that, that HSA would, would maintain

3964
05:24:13,260 --> 05:24:14,600
that on or on going basis.

3965
05:24:14,840 --> 05:24:20,780
And I would say that there are, um, about just over 2,000 tons of needles a year we collect

3966
05:24:20,780 --> 05:24:28,380
in the Kiosks, over and above what we distribute and collect in our personal services, they're

3967
05:24:28,380 --> 05:24:30,200
coming from somewhere outside of our program.

3968
05:24:30,960 --> 05:24:34,980
So just to address this issue though, we were asking something very specific, and so Chair,

3969
05:24:35,160 --> 05:24:38,320
I hear what you're saying, what Supervisor McPherson is saying is that you don't want to extend

3970
05:24:38,320 --> 05:24:42,600
hours until you know that the secondary exchange is, there's a plan for that correct?

3971
05:24:43,720 --> 05:24:50,300
Could a plan come back on September 24 for addressing the secondary exchange issue that I think

3972
05:24:50,300 --> 05:24:52,980
the board unanimously has a concern with.

3973
05:24:53,900 --> 05:24:54,460
I believe so.

3974
05:24:54,540 --> 05:24:54,800
Okay.

3975
05:24:55,220 --> 05:24:55,980
Then why don't we just.

3976
05:24:56,600 --> 05:24:56,840
Okay.

3977
05:24:57,700 --> 05:25:05,320
And why don't we, if this is true then, then we would get rid of number one, in essence, we would

3978
05:25:05,320 --> 05:25:08,960
get rid of number two contention upon this coming back.

3979
05:25:09,060 --> 05:25:14,800
So number two would come back on September 24th with a plan for how to manage the secondary

3980
05:25:14,800 --> 05:25:15,300
exchanges.

3981
05:25:15,500 --> 05:25:16,500
We would keep number three.

3982
05:25:16,660 --> 05:25:17,960
We would keep number four.

3983
05:25:17,960 --> 05:25:20,740
of the comeback going budget hearing, so we know we are fine.

3984
05:25:21,020 --> 05:25:24,000
Excuse me, on number three, the budget hearing, I'm sorry, Mr. Plasios.

3985
05:25:24,760 --> 05:25:26,760
Number five would be the direct to chair.

3986
05:25:27,880 --> 05:25:30,980
Number six would say, number seven would also,

3987
05:25:33,660 --> 05:25:39,440
well, we had a six month after we actually increased the hour.

3988
05:25:39,640 --> 05:25:42,800
So it would be six months past the time of when those hours were increased.

3989
05:25:43,780 --> 05:25:47,880
So that's all fine, although I would expect that you would hold a community meeting

3990
05:25:47,880 --> 05:25:53,960
in advance in the, in fact, the neighborhoods before expanding hours.

3991
05:25:53,980 --> 05:25:55,360
Yeah, we're happy to do that.

3992
05:25:55,540 --> 05:26:00,920
Yeah, and I hope that when we hold meetings that an involves both supervisors who represent that area.

3993
05:26:01,340 --> 05:26:07,980
You know, I represent the Amaline area, the vast majority of it, and a lot of surrounding neighborhoods as well.

3994
05:26:08,080 --> 05:26:14,880
So I would hope that in the future when we do that, that we have meetings that both our offices are aware of.

3995
05:26:15,880 --> 05:26:16,060
Sure?

3996
05:26:16,920 --> 05:26:22,700
So those are, I pose those as an amendment and there is a second to the amendment.

3997
05:26:24,360 --> 05:26:26,600
So I think I think we're accepting them as friends.

3998
05:26:27,280 --> 05:26:29,220
All except those is friendly amendments.

3999
05:26:30,120 --> 05:26:31,800
So we're going to come back.

4000
05:26:32,180 --> 05:26:33,840
It budget hearings on number three.

4001
05:26:34,980 --> 05:26:37,800
That's correct with the cost estimate and feasibility analysis.

4002
05:26:38,680 --> 05:26:42,180
Because this is just something that people just want to get an assessment.

4003
05:26:42,460 --> 05:26:42,740
You're right.

4004
05:26:42,740 --> 05:26:47,320
There's nothing we can do about these orders, you know, through Amazon or wherever, that's

4005
05:26:47,320 --> 05:26:48,120
out of our hands.

4006
05:26:48,320 --> 05:26:52,800
We just have to try to do manage our situation better than we're managing it.

4007
05:26:52,800 --> 05:26:57,960
Now, and I want to say that my hats off to the Health Services Agency and everybody's

4008
05:26:57,960 --> 05:27:06,080
working on this, this is not easy, this is not always friendly, sort of speak, but I think

4009
05:27:07,040 --> 05:27:13,860
there's a vast room for improvement and it's not your fault for why we need to improve it.

4010
05:27:14,040 --> 05:27:20,780
We just need to improve it because it's not working well right now and there's two parts.

4011
05:27:21,240 --> 05:27:30,220
As we go to stop the expansion of communicable diseases and reduce the number of improperly

4012
05:27:30,220 --> 05:27:35,420
discarded syringes. That's the key point. Probably that we want to get to as much as anything

4013
05:27:35,420 --> 05:27:40,140
right here. We just have to earn the trust of the general public and they don't have it in

4014
05:27:40,140 --> 05:27:47,960
our syringe exchange program right now. Thank you. And so I think I think we're all close to it.

4015
05:27:47,980 --> 05:27:52,400
Let me just say, I think a waste stream study is science and that waste stream saves it all

4016
05:27:52,400 --> 05:27:56,220
time and we have a lot of talk about it. It's our needles, it's not our needles, it's for mammals

4017
05:27:56,220 --> 05:28:00,120
on, like, we should know where the needles are from.

4018
05:28:00,240 --> 05:28:03,360
And also, the Citizens Connect proposal in this thing,

4019
05:28:03,420 --> 05:28:06,860
as I pointed out, is a several hundred thousand dollar a year,

4020
05:28:07,040 --> 05:28:09,820
running a 24-7 county-wide cleanup operation.

4021
05:28:10,060 --> 05:28:13,500
I agree, is a major, major cost.

4022
05:28:14,360 --> 05:28:16,620
If we're going to do it in a way that the community expects,

4023
05:28:16,840 --> 05:28:18,380
which is, if I see it, and you don't, for my house,

4024
05:28:18,560 --> 05:28:20,960
I expect to be cleaned up within an hour or two.

4025
05:28:21,740 --> 05:28:23,680
That is no small task.

4026
05:28:23,680 --> 05:28:29,980
So let's be clear that if we're serious about addressing need a leader, we're looking at a huge expenditure.

4027
05:28:31,320 --> 05:28:38,100
And that is why we're suggesting that we attempt a pilot, gather information, do a process of evaluation and report back to the board,

4028
05:28:38,400 --> 05:28:44,840
because it allows us a chance to evaluate the success or lack of success and what the resources may be needed.

4029
05:28:45,180 --> 05:28:48,060
And I do want to say I appreciate the board working together.

4030
05:28:48,060 --> 05:28:55,040
I know that there are members with different points of view and I appreciate the public and as well as our staff.

4031
05:28:55,160 --> 05:29:06,520
I think we have an amazing staff that has worked really hard especially in the last year to take this program from what it is and what it has been, which is harm reduction.

4032
05:29:07,000 --> 05:29:15,140
But grow it into something that brings so much hope to our community and they ability to really meet people where they're at,

4033
05:29:15,140 --> 05:29:19,380
get them into any kind of service, whether it's healthcare services, medication assisted treatment.

4034
05:29:20,000 --> 05:29:24,100
And I do believe that with all of the expansion of the services that we've had on the

4035
05:29:24,100 --> 05:29:30,040
behavioral health and the health care side, that this is our way to reach our most at-risk

4036
05:29:30,040 --> 05:29:30,520
clients.

4037
05:29:30,700 --> 05:29:33,420
And so I wanted to thank the Board for their work and also our staff.

4038
05:29:34,080 --> 05:29:34,160
All right.

4039
05:29:34,420 --> 05:29:35,460
Are we clear on the motion?

4040
05:29:35,680 --> 05:29:36,460
I do have a question.

4041
05:29:36,760 --> 05:29:37,160
Thank you, Chair.

4042
05:29:39,000 --> 05:29:49,800
Does your recommendations and amendments supervisor McPherson circumvent the recommendations that the HSA has made on their report?

4043
05:29:50,580 --> 05:29:51,160
Thank you.

4044
05:29:52,360 --> 05:29:53,460
Okay, so we have them.

4045
05:29:54,340 --> 05:29:56,880
Except we are accepting the HSA report.

4046
05:29:58,080 --> 05:29:58,380
All right.

4047
05:29:58,860 --> 05:29:59,300
Yes.

4048
05:30:00,000 --> 05:30:08,040
Okay, so we have a motion. One last thing, the syringe-liter study, don't we want that also to move forward?

4049
05:30:09,600 --> 05:30:15,260
I did. I mean, so, this question is super seeding. That's what, to be clear,

4050
05:30:19,180 --> 05:30:19,180
what?

4051
05:30:19,640 --> 05:30:23,500
The number three supersedes the recommendation from.

4052
05:30:23,920 --> 05:30:31,300
We reviewed health. From us, we reviewed the orange county study and it wasn't what we were trying.

4053
05:30:31,300 --> 05:30:35,500
It doesn't provide the information that we were trying to get out.

4054
05:30:35,800 --> 05:30:37,780
So we thought this would be a better use of time.

4055
05:30:37,780 --> 05:30:45,000
No, the waste streams assessment is you're saying in place of or in place of or can it be in addition to?

4056
05:30:45,160 --> 05:30:50,320
I mean, is there a, maybe I looked to staff on this.

4057
05:30:50,560 --> 05:30:54,780
I don't know whether the California Department of Public Health is paying for that study.

4058
05:30:55,760 --> 05:30:56,860
So it's no cost to us.

4059
05:30:56,860 --> 05:31:03,020
And so I'd like the Belt and Suspenders method, right?

4060
05:31:03,040 --> 05:31:08,600
I mean, if we can do this waste assessment and do this study and have a couple of points,

4061
05:31:08,920 --> 05:31:13,560
because our goal is to reduce needle litter in our community.

4062
05:31:14,040 --> 05:31:18,220
And the best ways to do that, and to figure out where it's coming from, right?

4063
05:31:18,340 --> 05:31:20,620
I mean, that's what we're interested in.

4064
05:31:20,860 --> 05:31:24,900
So that's why I'm asking the question, if someone else is paying for the study and the staff

4065
05:31:24,900 --> 05:31:26,180
It's still work on it.

4066
05:31:28,280 --> 05:31:29,140
I don't see the downside.

4067
05:31:30,940 --> 05:31:32,900
I feel like we're asking a lot of staff

4068
05:31:32,900 --> 05:31:35,620
between now and September on a small program.

4069
05:31:37,420 --> 05:31:40,840
I'd like to do this and then come back.

4070
05:31:41,500 --> 05:31:44,000
And if we don't get the answers, we need.

4071
05:31:44,320 --> 05:31:46,820
We can go to and we can engage in the state.

4072
05:31:48,160 --> 05:31:50,080
But is it too much to me to ask?

4073
05:31:51,060 --> 05:31:52,940
No, it was a recommendation.

4074
05:31:53,560 --> 05:31:56,660
And to answer your question, yes, the state is fine.

4075
05:31:56,660 --> 05:32:00,580
advancing it, they have federal dollars as well as state dollars, and they use a consultant

4076
05:32:00,580 --> 05:32:02,260
that has been doing this type of work,

4077
05:32:04,480 --> 05:32:06,800
so it's part of the reason we made the recommendation

4078
05:32:06,800 --> 05:32:12,260
is because we can have an outside entity that runs the office of AIDS due to this on our

4079
05:32:12,260 --> 05:32:15,340
behalf, and then use that data to develop our litter program.

4080
05:32:17,640 --> 05:32:21,640
So I just, I think we accept the report.

4081
05:32:21,640 --> 05:32:31,640
We do the this study. We do the change the the amended motion. That's that's what we're voting on.

4082
05:32:33,240 --> 05:32:38,820
And you're fine with the maker? Sure fine with the second. Okay, I'm sorry. So one quick.

4083
05:32:40,060 --> 05:32:49,340
So the recommendations with the friendly amendments and then maybe including seven of your recommended or see of your recommended actions.

4084
05:32:50,220 --> 05:32:50,700
Correct.

4085
05:32:51,120 --> 05:32:51,860
It is seen.

4086
05:32:52,460 --> 05:32:52,700
Okay.

4087
05:32:52,980 --> 05:32:53,300
Thank you.

4088
05:32:53,620 --> 05:32:53,920
Great.

4089
05:32:54,480 --> 05:32:54,720
Okay.

4090
05:32:54,900 --> 05:32:55,220
Thank you.

4091
05:32:55,240 --> 05:32:56,580
We got a motion and we have a second.

4092
05:32:56,740 --> 05:32:57,380
All those in favor.

4093
05:32:57,700 --> 05:32:58,420
Please say aye.

4094
05:32:59,680 --> 05:33:00,160
Opposed?

4095
05:33:00,980 --> 05:33:02,060
That passes unanimously.

4096
05:33:03,300 --> 05:33:07,340
We are going to adjourn to our budget hearings which will be available next week.

4097
05:33:07,860 --> 05:33:09,100
Starting at 9 a.m.

4098
05:33:09,200 --> 05:33:10,740
Here on Monday.

4099
05:33:10,740 --> 05:33:11,360
I'm

4100
05:33:18,150 --> 05:33:25,050
surprised as well you can do it in a report in September, but you're going to have to do it.