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Good morning and welcome to the September 28th, 2021 meeting of the Santa Cruz County Board of Supervisors, please go the roll.

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Supervisor Cone.

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Here.

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Friend.

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Coonerty.

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Here.

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Out there.

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Yeah.

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First thing.

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Here. Thank you, Chair. You have a quorum.

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Thank you.

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We'll now have a moment of silence.

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And then the place of allegiance.

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Mr. Chair, if I may dedicate the moment of silence for a one brief second.

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to the passing of Bill Matthews, and absolutely wonderful, wonderful person kind, gentle,

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soul, brilliant, loving father and husband who just recently passed away. Please keep

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Cynthia and the entire family in your prayers and thoughts. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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President

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Lee Jens, I would say to Mayor, if you'd have a good

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Republic, we're going to ask you, Stan's, a nice nation, under

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gun, individual, and most of the already injured.

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Great.

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The consideration of late edition to the agenda, or the yes, Senator

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Regular Jendas?

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Yes, Chairmanperson and members of the board.

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On the regular agenda item number nine, there's additional

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materials. There's a revised attachment A, which replaces packet page 74. On item number 12,

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there's additional materials. That can's degree results memo 2021 attachment A insert

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after packet page 163. There's an addendum to the regular agenda, close session,

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and

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of litigation pursuant to paragraph 4, subdivision D, section 549, 5 6.9, 1 case, and then on the

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consent agenda, there's additional materials on item number 26, ADM 29, attachment C, insert

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after packet page 317. That concludes the corrections and revision to today's agenda.

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Thank you. We item number 4 announcement by board members, if they want to have any items removed

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from consent to the regular agenda?

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No, I'll make a quick comment, though, a number.

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We'll wait until after the public comment,

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just for a minute.

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You have any, say no.

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We'll now move to public comments, Stephanie.

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Do you want to go ahead?

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Now's the time for public comment.

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If you wish to comment and are joining us through Zoom,

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please find the hand icon at the bottom of your screen

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and click the icon to raise your hand.

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This will place you in the line to speak.

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If you're here in chambers, please line up at the podium.

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When is your turn, I will call you by your name,

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and you'll see a pop-up on your screen.

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This is if you're on Zoom, and you'll need to unmute yourself.

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Please accept this and start speaking.

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Your microphone will meet automatically at the end of your two minutes.

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Now, this is the input that we're going to activate.

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Supervisors.

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So, see you in the comments.

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If you would like to comment on Spanish,

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then we'll see you in the comments.

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See you in the comments.

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and it's the only one through this Zoom.

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Busque, busque, busque,

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the icon of the hand,

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in the bottom of the screen,

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and click to raise the hand.

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This is what I call it in the field to speak.

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When I say to you,

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you'll have to call it for your name

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or the last four digits of your number of phones.

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You'll have to see a screen

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in front of your screen,

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asking if you want to activate your microphone.

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For sure, accept it and you'll have to speak.

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If you have joined by phone,

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please tell Star9 to raise your hand.

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Yes, the University of the University of Arizona,

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please mark it as three or nine.

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Your microphone will meet at the end of your two minutes.

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The final that the source of the minute

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was to make a microphone off,

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Sarah, this activated automatically.

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Thank you.

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I'll make a comment to the comments must be directed

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down today's consent or closed agendas.

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And you have to be heard out of it on the regular agenda.

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Or on a topic not on today's agenda,

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right within the jurisdiction of the board.

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Supervisors will take comments.

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It's just going to be a little different today.

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We have a Senate, California Senator John Laird

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going to address it at exactly 9.30 and probably will be speaking for 30 minutes or so.

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He has to leave by 10. So, we'll take public comments now and if necessary, we'll just add

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on after Senator Laird has finished his comments. Thank you. Go ahead.

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Well, good morning. I'm Nancy Macy and I'm today speaking as chair of the Valley Women's Club's

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Environment and Mental Committee. It's great to be here in person. It's been a long time.

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I'm here first to thank the board for their formal complaint to the CPUC regarding PG&E's destructive

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tree clearing.

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Clare beyond this right of way without notice to property owners immediately after the

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CZU fire lasting for months and leaving the mess behind.

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We appreciate the courage and concern that demonstrates and come in the excellent work

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by the county council's legal team.

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We want to be sure that you and the members of the public make note of the fact that every formal complaint that gets

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adopted by the CPC's administrative judges is assigned to one of the five commissioners to oversee the complaint proceedings.

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And Santa Cruz County's complaint is being overseen by the president of the CPC Mary Bell Batcher herself.

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That means they're paying attention.

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We thank Supervisors McPherson and friend for their request now on the consent agenda that the Board

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and List of CPC to investigate the dozens of recent power outages.

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It's pitch in is simply trying to retrofit the old equipment.

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Oh, excuse me, it's important to investigate the to do this because we wonder if PGD isn't simply trying to retrofit old equipment

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when modern computerized equipment should be used as happening in Southern California.

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This is important to ask, and you may want to state that you will no longer tolerate

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the antiquated distribution system that is the fundamental reason for PG&E's destructive deadly wildfires.

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I brought you a couple of pages from PG&E's website entitled Community Wildfire Safety Program.

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You'll see that in the previous three years, PG&E hardened 24 miles of Santa Cruz County's

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electric distribution system, some of which actually burned in the fire.

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PG&E hopes to complete nine more miles this year, but wait, the poles are being replaced

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with wood poles, and the new wires we've seen are bear wires, thus still vulnerable to almost

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all wildfire ignition drivers.

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This piecemeal effort is not the comprehensive overall modernization needed in this

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counties high utility associated wildfire threat areas.

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That should include steel core, triple insulated conductor, not bear wire.

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And this is being done in Southern California by Southern California Edison successfully

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preventing wildfires.

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Thank you for the opportunity to be here in person.

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It's a pleasure to see you all.

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Thank you.

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I thought it was waiting for a mother May I here.

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I have this in article, Gary Richard Arnold.

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When I have this in article here in Wall Street Journal by Joe Biden, which he says he

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learned to love the new world order and how he's going to replace a world order on the ashes of

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the United States. And that makes sense since the borders were wide open and the COVID scam is

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really exercising communism. COVID is communism. The community foundation is a matter of fact,

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which has a Justice Foundation named after a highly famed Chinese communist by which

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you have which which you still maintain the backs out here on the courthouse steps because

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you're so, and I ideologically together with that. The community foundation had Lady

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the side, which one fourth or one third of businesses crashed inside the Santa Cruz County.

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I choose paid by a secret donor. Carlos Flasio is the California, the county administrative

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officer. I was a member of that board in his pictures taken next to Margaret Tru or I forgot

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her first name. There are so many people that are involved in this communist activity, it's pathetic.

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The Zach Ren worked for two people at a former that are red Chinese lobbyist.

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Mr. McPherson, of course, got $30,000 from a triple spy front page U.S. news and

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world report.

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McPherson was also involved in creating a alternative, a counter government, a parallel

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government called Ambegg, both the paparonian and the Times in the office reflected the

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And after I said it was similar to something they would see.

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I'm paraphrasing that goals would have done inside the inside of Nazi Germany that people were taking literature out of other people's hands.

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The promoters, which was Sam Far, Stas and Ruth McPherson staff.

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Anyway, there's a full intelligence report on communist activity in the state of California.

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It includes the attack on the police, both inside this magazine here when it names those

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police that are endangered by Antifa, indivisible, and a bunch of others that includes

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California forward of which Bruce McPherson has been a proud member of and was founded

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by Leon Penetta who gave military and policy information to a Chinese communist spy

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that

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Yes, it's a spark and so it'll actually be the time that's coming from my phone.

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Okay,

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morning, my name is James Ewing women today, September 28, 2021.

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I have spoken briefly here upon several subjects in front of this coctacostrophy Board of Supervisors

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Santa Cruz County.

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International disease codes were law enforcement can bill for choking a community member to death.

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And the military can bill for providing an injection that kills the community member.

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And at the time of about a year ago,

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where any two medical experts can provide the ability

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to lock up anyone indefinitely.

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I've spoken about the contact tracing.

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I've spoken about the August 2021 CZSU fires,

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where I have proof that these are from directed energy weapons.

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I'm afraid only to be silent.

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Maybe sharing tonight on a radio program

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certain details about how to detox from these kill stings, which we are breathing, drinking,

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and eating for decades.

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What does the bill in the Linda Gage Foundation, the Community

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Foundation Santa Cruz County, and the Aspen Institute doing playing a role in Santa Cruz

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County politics?

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Simply planning to profit heavily off the genocide of 95% of the world's population

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by 2030. This may be accomplished much sooner. Who are the leading mass puppets in this county besides

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the three men in front of me, but two that are speaking on Zoom in John Leopold, who my left is

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Carlos Pinedos, a violent, attired gun who used to be the executive CEO of Kaiser Permanente,

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Margaret LePaz. Susan Tru is the CEO of the Community Foundation Santa Cruz County.

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What role then does Gayle Nuel play? And what role then does the sheriff corner gym heart play?

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Thank you.

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The other comments from the public.

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Thank you.

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Carol, your microphone is available.

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Good morning.

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My name is Carol Bjorn.

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I'm here to ask you to post any COVID-19

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VACS mandates in this county.

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I hope you all have had a chance to see the

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FDA that by Lieutenant Colonel Theresa Long MD.

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She was a field surgeon for 10 years.

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She holds a master's degree in public health.

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She's been trained by the combat readiness center

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and has trained in medical management of chemical and biological casualties.

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She has also a board certified in-flight aerospace medicine and board eligible and occupational medicine.

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Based on observing, studying and analyzing available data, information samples, experiences, histories, and results of treatments and inoculation.

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She has formulated a professional opinion documented in her affidavit. In the affidavit, she said, the shots carry M RNA that causes the recipient to create trillions of spike proteins. This is a problem for five reasons. First, it turns out the spike proteins are not remaining locally in the injection sites, but have been found circulating in the blood and virtually all organs of the body. Second, the spike proteins themselves have been shown to be pathogenic.

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Attaching to endothelial, pulmonary, and other cells, forming clots and attacking heart cells.

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Third, the spike proteins and their lipid nanoparticles cross the blood-brain barrier,

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with unknown long-term effects on the brain and high concern for chronic neurodegenerative disorders.

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For these spike proteins interact with many signaling pathways,

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which may trigger tumor formation, cancer, and other serious disease.

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Fifth, according to Pfizer's Japanese Distribution Study of LNP Accumulation, unexpected sequestering

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and reproductive organs, and explained, raise very serious long-term concerns.

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Further, the labels for commonality and bionotech clearly state that the vaccination

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should not be given to individuals that are allergic to the ingredients.

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One of the listed primary ingredients of these injectables is PEG, which is closely in molecular

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make up

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all or two nine one and five or microphone is available.

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Good morning. This is Becky Steinbriner,

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can you hear me? Yes. Thank you. I want to speak first to consent agenda item 36,

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where in the board is going to, finally, and thank you for taking this action demand that

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how fire issue and after action review of the CZU fire.

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How fire is an odd done this?

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It says in the report, the county has done your own study,

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regarding county fires, interactions.

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I would like a copy of that report

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and request that you make it publicly available

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as an attachment, perhaps, to this agenda item.

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I have filed many public record debt requests.

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trying to find the after-action review and that's how I determine finally it has never been done.

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And I appreciate you including the Car Fire after-action report there as a model.

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Thank you very much.

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I hope that you will pursue this and give Car Fire a deadline.

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Otherwise, I think they will continue to ignore this very important piece of work that needs to be done

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to improve future responses in any disaster in the county. I would also like to speak to item

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number 45 regarding water. I'm confused why Mimi Hall wrote this rather than our county

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water resources managers here at Orion. That needs to be explained. There has already been action

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by your board to require metering. It talks about perhaps this is the time to do that in the staff

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analysis. But on August 4th of 2015, your board already required that, and that was

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supposed to have been completed by October 1st, 2017. So I would like to ask your board

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to request of staff a status report of the Metering Action

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Collin User 1, your microphone is available.

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he's press star allowed in their sentence anyway.

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This is Marilyn Garrett, can he hear me?

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How rude it is to cut off people in mid-sentence.

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And I noticed she don't do that to those who are there in person.

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Very discriminatory.

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I did appreciate Nancy Maydsey's excellent statement.

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well as James and Carol Bjorn. When we have declared emergency, it's the architecture for

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oppression with this permanent emergency and we have destruction of livelihoods and destruction

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of democracy.

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I want to read an excerpt from children's health defense. This is a notice.

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for employers, universities, and other institutions mandating COVID-19 masks, and from July 14th,

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this serves as notice that the mandate for any individual to wear a mask against COVID-19 as a

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by a late federal law. All COVID-19 masks, whether surgical and 95, or other respirators,

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are authorized under an emergency is authorization only. They are not approved or licensed by

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the federal government. You can see there's some children's health events and just a little bit

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the Food and Drug Administration status and authorized face masks must be labeled accurately

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and may not be labeled

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all or 1965 or microphone is available.

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This is our nine to unmute your

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Good morning, can you hear me? Yes. Good morning. I'm just here to voice my support for the

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the fire victims. I ask the board to please reconsider the mandate that's going to require them

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to put the covenant on their title. It seems that it is harder for them to be built and

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will have initially said than I just asked that that be reconsidered and that more support is given

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Thank you, the Fire Survivor. Thank you.

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5907, your microphone is available.

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Can you hear me?

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OK. Hi.

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This is Kristen Sandell.

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I'm a resident of the moment.

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And we have had nine non-PSPS power outages

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in September 7.

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Each last thing between three and 18 hours

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and all without any significant wind or weather of any kind.

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Teaching is increased in the fast trip sensitivity

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that system is making life for people

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here extremely difficult. And it's purely stop-gap measure to avoid updating their infrastructure

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with triple insulate lines, which would not be tripped by a squirrel or a stray branch.

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It's a dangerous for people with medical equipment needing electricity. It's devastating for

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local businesses, and it's costing all of those hundreds of dollars in gas for generators,

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spoiled food, and lots of water for people on well systems. It's not working as a means of

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for a risk mitigation when actually upgrading and hardening the system as Southern California

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as a medicine has done is the correct solution. Please do everything you can to address this

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very dangerous situation. Thank you for the opportunity to speak today and thanks for all of your

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work on this issue.

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Dahlia, Eperson, your microphone is available.

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Hi, yes. My name is Dahlia Eperson.

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I am running from Congress in November 2022 against Canada by the way. I want to seek again

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the mask bandits. Everybody who wants to mask, God bless them like the mask. But those of us who

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don't want to mask, we don't feel the need to mask, always retain the choice, not to mask.

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We've already seen some devastating effects for children who are being masked and we also are seeing

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effects or adults including pneumonia, bronchitis. And of course there's always the

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exceptions, only the exceptions. My sister has extreme asthma. She can't have to

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mask. So the mask pandas are simply a denial of choice and you're also telling us

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that we're too stupid to decide for ourselves if we should mask or not. That is such an

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breach of government. Any kind of that, any kind of mandates like that, where a freedom

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of choice is taken away is not the American way, it's an overreach. And so I am really

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speaking out against it and really pleading with you guys, not doing not to do another

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our vast mandate.

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Thank you very much for your time.

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Thank you, Chair.

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Another speakers.

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I'm going to go to.

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I think I'll go ahead now introduce.

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I just want to make clear that we do not have a mask mandate in the county.

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We request that our county employees do be vaccinated.

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I think about 90% of them have been if they're not there.

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They need to have a weekly test, but we do not have an outright mandate.

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I'm going to make that clear.

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Now it's my pleasure to introduce my friend and colleague Senator John Laird.

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John is not a stranger to most of us or you.

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He has endless energy and worth that ethic and makes friends everywhere he visits.

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He was elected to the State Senate last November and serves on a legislative committee,

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which in my experience is almost unheard of.

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The Secretary of Natural Resources under Governor Brown for eight years and prior that represented the Monterey Bay area in the state assembly for six years.

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He was a trustee of a real college. He was a council member of the city of Santa Cruz and he has made public service as Collins insgraduated from UCSC in 1972 after John's presentation he will leave for time for questions, but the senator has a busy day and has to leave by 10 o'clock.

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So I welcome you Senator Laird, it's great to have you here.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much, it's great to be here.

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It's first time I've been in the room since you've been socially distancing.

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So it is an interesting setup, having spent an incredible number of hours in my life in this room.

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I'd like to maybe go through a bunch of things and then answer questions and just as with you social distancing.

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I think this was a strange time to land to the legislature.

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We were not allowed friends or family at the swearing in.

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Only 33 of the senators were there.

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They didn't even allow the chaplain in.

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I gave the prayer for swearing in day.

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This entire time we've never been allowed more than three staff members

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in our Sacramento office at the same time.

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In fact, I got an award from a quality California a few weeks ago.

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it was the first time my nine staff members in Sacramento had all been in the same place together since I had been in the

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the Senate and as Chair McPherson said, I'm on an incredible number of committees and it is really helped

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represent this area. I'm on the rules committee which does confirmations and on the state

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I walked them all the way through Big Basin and what they were planning to do, and there have been

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all hosts of confirmations like that, where that's been good.

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I'm the Senate lead on the joint legislative audit committee, which is put in the middle of the

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EDD meltdown, and I have a bill that will address that.

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The chair of the Natural Resources Committee socially distanced for four months, so I ended up

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what you put on myself and a lot of issues here, and I chair the education budget subcommittee

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which is half the budget and I was working with leaders in Santa Cruz County in education

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and County Superintendent Fair Sabah and it was one of the lead negotiators in the school reopening

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issue. So I hit the ground running and this budget was different than any budget I've ever experienced

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because I was budget chair for most of my run in the state assembly and we had 75 billion dollars above

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revenues that were projected. And so half of that or the equivalent of half of that went into reserves or was returned to the public.

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And then the other half was used to address real long-term intractable issues. So we lowered the age for Medicaid to 50.

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We added, we'll add 100,000 students to grants in the higher education system.

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We increased childcare slots and increased rates for the reimbursement.

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There's $12 billion over multiple years for homelessness.

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And take to 12, budget is just higher than it has been at any time in the University of California

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and CSU of real concern to our community which was caught during the initial COVID budget.

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Not only was brought back to its pre-COVID levels, but had a 5% increase, so there have been

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major things that were addressed as part of that budget.

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And I think there's some that are real effect locally.

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Yeah, obviously, there's a tremendous amount of money for fire prevention and there's an...

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A number of us that had a real effort that that go local way, that there be grants and that go to local areas across California.

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There's a water package, which addresses a lot of issues with regard to water.

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And it's the one disappointment I had in the budget. I had a special pot carved out for central coast route projects.

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And I got moved into next year. It is in the budget, but it's next year. I'm working with the Finance Department to move that up.

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because eligible would be, for projects would be the pipe from the big-dation

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water district to the San Renzo Valley Water District would be upgrade of wells in the

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Santa Cruz system that would be projects in the Pajro Valley, Monterey Peninsula,

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southern Monterey County, and San Luis Obispo, even though this is it within the

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purview of Santa Cruz County, like San San Antonio and San Antonio, the 9% and 14%

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capacity. One is a dead pull, and the other one is not allowed before, or releases, unless it's an emergency,

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and that goes into the silliness river basin, and so everybody that's on silliness river water

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is tremendously hampered. Right then, we're at the second year of this drought, where we were at

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the end of the fourth year of the drought that was in a few years ago. So that's dramatic.

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And with the partnership of Mark Stone, there's 14.5 million dollars, of course, the same

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cruise area to address homeless issues, and my real point was, is that if you look at the

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homeless programs across the state, it's done on a recap of the basis and it's really targeted

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to the urban areas, and if you look at the homeless population in the last census that was

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all in Santa Cruz, the per capita population of homelessness was higher than Oakland San Francisco,

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Los Angeles in San Diego and yet the money does not come to the area. So we did a slug of one time

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money with the idea that we tried to budget for impact and hope in a year when we absorbed the other

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money that's coming from the budget that real progress can be made and I know there's a meeting

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being set up between the city and the county and and some of us to talk about how that will be implemented and so, so that is coming and another thing through the education budget subcommittee.

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The University of California funds cooperative agriculture extension which provides research assistance to our farmers in the area.

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And that has been contracting and contracting over 15 or 20 years.

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We did a huge slug of an increase to bring it back to where it was 15 or 20 years ago.

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So cooperative agricultural extension can be of two service to the farmers in the state and the region.

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And I really worked on that personally to make that happen.

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If you look at the bills, fortunately, everything is timing and it's nice to be here on the

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day that DeSentno has a headline about the Povera River bill that the governor signed on Friday,

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and SB4-96, and I work for Supervisor Thrend on that, and I've been working with Congressman

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Panata.

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It is big because if you look at the Povera Levy Project, where there is five-year flood

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protection right now and the project would bring it to a hundred-year flood protection.

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And as a county employee in 1995, I had to go down and to shift of

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proctoring out of the hundreds of people that were dislocated and housed at the fairgrounds.

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And that is literally what we face if we don't upgrade this and they are historically disadvantaged

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communities in the state share was capped at 70 percent. And so additional money kept being

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gotten for the project. And all it would do is display other money and not get to 100 percent.

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So what this bill does is allow the state to pay 100 percent. And in reality, in implementation,

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you can even technically get 209 percent if there are overruns or other things. So this is big

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on the farmers or residents of the Parkrow Valley that will now be done by the state.

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So that is really good news and I think it really will help then it was a hard bill and I

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had to take amendments or negotiate amendments that really said this was unique in a way to get

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it signed and to insert the Department of Water Resources Director in the process who coincidentally

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I have pointed to the past, so that is a very good thing.

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Additionally,

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I have a bill on the Governor's desk with regard to fire.

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And I have not appeared in front of you since the season, you fire a year ago,

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which was a horrific and which we are all still bearing the brunt of crime

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to bring people back, trying to deal with all the impacts of that.

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at the state where there were forced practice rules and the national draft wouldn't have allowed

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people to rebuild and we worked on that. I've been working with PG&A as I mentioned to the

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Valley Women's Club over the weekend at the risk of popping to a non-popular thing. The only

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meeting I took the last week of session when we were just meeting 14 hours a day in really busy

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was with the new CEO of P.J. Me and she came to my office in the camp at all and I met with her

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for half an hour. I was encouraged by one thing. She headed up to Utility and Michigan and she

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has that Midwestern sense of ability and affect that I think is good. But as I said to the valley

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women's club, she's taking over a ship that is sinking and pointed it in the wrong direction

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and while there's commitments to do the right thing, she's going to have a tough time making good

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them and making them happen. But we as an office have been working with PG&A for a number of months,

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and we have pressured them into a green or more notice and cutting down trees in the emergency

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and for taking the trees away if it's okay with the property owner and trying to let the county

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in a settlement make sure that that's there and enforceable and then we can move on to vegetation management

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And we can move on with the public safety shut-offs because let's have been going on in the last few weeks is just in a hardship to anybody in the Santa Cruz Mountains.

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And so I wanted to bring that voice to that meeting and make sure they know and the fire bill that I have on the governor's desk right now when we do fire prevention.

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We basically at the state level to whatever we put in the budget for a year for prescribed fire or.

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It feels management and this would say we would have a five year or more plan, we would know what we exactly have as targets for that period of time and fire prevention.

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We would have a transparent public process report on exactly what has happened, so it's not up to the press to dig it out.

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And I think that will be great progress, and I'm hopeful that the governor will sign it.

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Additionally, I have a bill on a desk with regard to the Williams and Act.

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And even though I would like to state to be a full partner again in the Williams and act with local governments.

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And since before I was even,

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The resources I've turned after I left the legislature, the state has pulled back.

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This relieves some of the reporting requirements and other things to make the support system manageable.

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And we put money to a program that I started at resources for agricultural conservation.

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is not just a part to deal with Hong-Hag land and preserved in that use and then the employment development

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department has been a complete meltdown and we are during the COVID crisis and we received an audit

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from the state auditor and it's interesting because one of the recommendations was,

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is there be a recession plan that in fact the minute a recession is tripped there's a plan

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completely in place on how to expand to deal with the increased needs that people have when that happens.

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There was an auto-recommendation in 2010 to do that, and it wasn't implemented by the then governor,

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or the next governor, and now the thing has happened under a third governor.

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And so I have a bipartisan bill that's on the governor's desk that requires an ongoing recession plan

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updated public participatory, so that this never happens again this way. I also have a bill in

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the governor's desk about cannabis testing and having equal standards that it comes out of a lot

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of entities here so that there's not a disadvantage. I have a bill that's sort of been signed with regard

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to when I had a design crazy project. It was our dream that people would live to hold that

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it was not happening, now 50% of the people with HIV in California over the age of 50.

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And so the bill, and the governor signed it already, puts as a category of special need,

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older Californians with HIV and make sure services are informed of surfaces, and there's outreach

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under the older Americans to deal with that. And then I had one very fun bill,

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which is the governor appointed the first woman to be ahead of the highway at all and yet the entire

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statute refers to he and him as the commissioner of high-light patrol. So I have a bill that

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00:40:14,380 --> 00:40:19,620
fixes that and once I got into it, how far is that all our statutes say firemen, so to

443
00:40:19,620 --> 00:40:26,400
how fire in all the conservation core statutes say core men I put that in. And then I work with the

444
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,420
general of the National Guard and it turns out their statute is so screwed up that we just

445
00:40:30,420 --> 00:40:37,560
agreed to do a bill next year not mess it up with this. So the governor has signed that bill as well.

446
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:44,380
And then maybe two other issues before. Oh, and one other bill that really directly affects you,

447
00:40:44,380 --> 00:40:52,460
that's on the governor's desk is that there's a mandate for landfills to move to organic waste.

448
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:59,560
And it has been considered cities and counties have been really stressed by it. And so I have

449
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:06,460
bill that does a one-year holiday on enforcement of that mandate, even what's been going on,

450
00:41:06,620 --> 00:41:10,700
even though people still move toward it, and that was used to leverage money, so there's

451
00:41:10,700 --> 00:41:16,480
70 million dollars in the budget for the local grants to implement that now. So it is great on both

452
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:21,780
scores. I got an award from the League of Cities last week for doing it, and we're confident that

453
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:28,640
the governor will sign that. And then the two sort of high profile bills this year,

454
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:40,560
We've had to do with housing SB 9 and SB 10 and they both had some measure of overriding local land use.

455
00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:45,920
We go allow for additional units of housing SB 10.

456
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:57,400
They took amendments to make it voluntary, but it also has a provision that allows boards of supervisors and city councils by two thirds vote to override.

457
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:23,020
citizen approved measures on housing, and then SB9 allows for ADUs additional to be built on single family zoning and the amendments were taken in that bill that allow local governments to override this requirement if there's health and safety historic or other things and so when those came to me for the final vote.

458
00:42:23,020 --> 00:42:29,660
given all the amendments, I voted for SB 9, but I voted against SB 10, because I thought

459
00:42:29,660 --> 00:42:33,580
the override of local ballot measures was a bridge too far.

460
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:42,860
And I had conversations with the author about specific local initiatives about Major J about

461
00:42:42,860 --> 00:42:49,360
the Watsonville initiative about annexation, about Major O, and the Green Belt major in Santa Cruz.

462
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:58,200
And the author said that it had to be uniquely about housing, but I was still concerned that that was a type we written.

463
00:42:58,540 --> 00:43:01,380
And so I am concerned about that provision.

464
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,660
The governor has sent those bills into law.

465
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:11,220
And then lastly, and I know this is of great interest to supervisor Cunity.

466
00:43:12,100 --> 00:43:17,040
I sent a bill to the Regents on Sunday about the long range development plan.

467
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:29,940
It seems like it's relatively short notice that it was just going on via agenda because I think it was hard for the city in the county to take formal action before the deadline for letters last weekend.

468
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:43,060
And in my letter I deferred to the city and the county on the practical issues of transportation, housing, water, fire, the things that I think are the granular issues that are most at issue.

469
00:43:43,060 --> 00:43:52,640
And I held two up for the regents and the first one was is I tried to set the context for this because I sat next to a regent at an event.

470
00:43:53,140 --> 00:43:58,500
We said, oh, everybody knows it's just an empty thing in Santa Cruz and I said long long long long.

471
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,560
It is much more nuanced and complicated than that.

472
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:19,920
You basically have an exemption from local land use no requirement to mitigate and you have a university of 20,000 people within a city of almost 60,000 people, which creates amazing problems within that lack of a requirement to mitigate.

473
00:44:21,060 --> 00:44:28,200
And so and I said, this does not exist this way with any other the other nine campuses that aren't here for you see.

474
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:40,780
And I think that has to be recognized, and then secondly, that given the Constitutional exemption that the University of California has, they have no requirement to do what they say they're going to do.

475
00:44:41,420 --> 00:44:43,820
And so I really urged the regents.

476
00:44:44,580 --> 00:44:52,560
I did something when I was in the legislature the first time that if a university campus got bond money for a building.

477
00:44:53,780 --> 00:44:58,720
I have language that still on the books that say they have to mitigate all the impacts from that bill,

478
00:44:58,780 --> 00:44:59,980
ring before they can get money.

479
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:29,980
And that sets up a framework that should work for this client. If they really should face this, lay out what they're going to do each phase and not move to the next phase until they've mitigated it and have a major of enforceability in that. And this is not just the issues of growth. This is the issues for faculty and staff and students of having academic infrastructure in place and not just growth.

480
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,160
So that they don't have an experience that's appropriate in this either.

481
00:45:35,020 --> 00:45:37,980
So I have personally sent that to individual regions.

482
00:45:38,700 --> 00:45:40,700
I filed it with the entire Board of Regents.

483
00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:43,540
And I have been working with them.

484
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,920
The Housing Project is proposed up there.

485
00:45:45,980 --> 00:45:47,460
It was a split-photo approval.

486
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:52,620
And I just don't understand why in a 3000-unit housing project,

487
00:45:53,260 --> 00:45:55,900
they can't take the 150 units that are controversial

488
00:45:55,900 --> 00:45:58,000
and move them to another place in the project.

489
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,800
It wouldn't make the opposition go away.

490
00:46:01,500 --> 00:46:04,140
We support 3,000 units because they need it,

491
00:46:04,140 --> 00:46:09,580
but just don't do it in a way that causes opposition

492
00:46:09,580 --> 00:46:13,360
and leads into the LRDP with bad feelings.

493
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,860
And so I am uniquely positioned as chair

494
00:46:17,860 --> 00:46:19,700
of the education budget subcommittee.

495
00:46:20,540 --> 00:46:22,660
The Chancellor of the CSU system and the President

496
00:46:22,660 --> 00:46:25,380
of the UCC system are my new best friends.

497
00:46:25,380 --> 00:46:33,240
And now I've been using these conversations to raise these issues so that they are clear on what it means.

498
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:39,000
I want to go longer than I wanted to, but I want to give you a comprehensive update on what's going on.

499
00:46:39,260 --> 00:46:41,660
How it fits here and in whatever times remain.

500
00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:45,020
Whatever time you have left and I just want to make it.

501
00:46:45,020 --> 00:46:49,120
I want to thank you for everything you're doing in so many areas.

502
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:54,980
it's very much appreciated and I know you're very highly respected and people listen to you

503
00:46:54,980 --> 00:47:01,460
up at the Capitol, for where that I want to thank you too for the supporting the expansion

504
00:47:01,460 --> 00:47:05,460
of broadband, a high priority and the legislative list of this county and the county

505
00:47:05,460 --> 00:47:10,800
state association of California, the state association of counties, expanding broadband

506
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:16,580
and these fire threatening days is going to be critical so we can have a communication

507
00:47:16,580 --> 00:47:18,160
with people in the rural areas.

508
00:47:19,660 --> 00:47:23,360
One thing that I decided, I was watching 60 minutes and they were talking about these new

509
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:28,160
helicopters that could see at night where the fires are and they could pull the thought

510
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:33,540
3,000 gallons of water in minutes and for some reason they haven't been able to transport

511
00:47:33,540 --> 00:47:34,320
of their headquarters.

512
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,780
I think in Orange County the way I understand it, I just wanted to, if you could look

513
00:47:38,780 --> 00:47:43,200
into that to get the Department of Forestry and the local fire agencies to get their act

514
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,900
together so we can get those when we when see how she sees you happen there is the fire is going

515
00:47:47,900 --> 00:47:53,460
on all over the place I understand but they weren't used to their full ability let's put it that

516
00:47:53,460 --> 00:48:01,040
way so let me just speak to that for a moment yes happy to look into it and and when I was resources

517
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:09,340
secretary the entire fleet of helicopters was Vietnam era helicopters and we went through an

518
00:48:09,340 --> 00:48:16,560
was the process where I think we might have even been sued for two years to basically come up with

519
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:23,740
a new RFP and to start the process of replacing every helicopter. And so before we left the

520
00:48:23,740 --> 00:48:31,620
administration, we bought the first one. And then Gavin Newsom to his credit, got there and

521
00:48:31,620 --> 00:48:36,940
realized he had a little bit of a surplus and the best thing to do is to spend it for one time

522
00:48:36,940 --> 00:48:42,660
things and not build on going expenses. So he took the helicopters that were supposed to be

523
00:48:42,660 --> 00:48:49,020
purchased over five, six or nine years and moved them all forward. And so it's just a question

524
00:48:49,020 --> 00:48:55,360
of when they're delivered. And to be honest, I am not sure of their capability with regard to

525
00:48:55,360 --> 00:49:01,240
night flight, because that was not an absolute requirement at the time. But I think that they can

526
00:49:01,240 --> 00:49:08,240
they did for that that because the issue, the other issue that you mentioned that's worth talking about

527
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:17,100
is when the CZU fire happened, a million acres were burning across the state, and they did not commit

528
00:49:17,100 --> 00:49:21,380
resources here for three or four days while it was burning through rural residential areas.

529
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:26,440
And even though I was a private citizen, I was pounding people in Sacramento about it.

530
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:36,840
And we have a mutual aid system that relies on fire departments across the state responding and a lot of them are holding their fire units because they felt like they were in danger.

531
00:49:38,420 --> 00:49:44,100
And so the real question is as well as making sure that never happens again.

532
00:49:44,100 --> 00:49:50,760
And we have already approved additional conservation core, additional firefighters, we're trying to

533
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:57,440
We jigger the prison firefighter issue, but that is front in the center.

534
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:58,980
So anyway, I didn't mean it, but

535
00:49:58,980 --> 00:50:02,840
Okay, I'm going to go to supervisor friend and community first for

536
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,080
Requestions, just because you

537
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,740
Medjust some issues that were in their district specifically supervisor friend.

538
00:50:09,540 --> 00:50:12,640
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Senator Layard. Thank you.

539
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:17,320
Obviously, for everything you've done in regards to the Paparoa, one thing you didn't mention,

540
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:18,520
this was the continuum.

541
00:50:18,900 --> 00:50:23,360
Actually, we were building upon work that you had done when you were in the legislature previously.

542
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:28,280
It really had set the stage for the possibility of even what you were able to get through the governor.

543
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,680
Most recently, to underscore what you were saying.

544
00:50:33,100 --> 00:50:37,480
This fundamentally changes the trajectory of what's possible on the Paparoa River,

545
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:42,460
we're moving a significant burden from two disadvantaged communities in both counties.

546
00:50:43,220 --> 00:50:48,420
It allows me to work more with the Biden administration to show that we absolutely have

547
00:50:48,420 --> 00:50:53,400
the work with all to make this project happen because of this state investment in previous

548
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:57,820
meetings with the Office of Management and Budget and Previous Administrations just even

549
00:50:57,820 --> 00:51:03,660
having the 70 percent was clearly a unique identifier for us being able to now show that

550
00:51:03,660 --> 00:51:06,900
we have 100 percent of the local share because they have a lot of projects, Army,

551
00:51:06,900 --> 00:51:13,480
or projects or the locals are unable to actually deliver on their end of the deal after congressional

552
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:14,480
appropriation.

553
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:19,480
So, this really does show that we're in a very unique position across the country to

554
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:19,780
do it.

555
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:24,340
And it's a due and no small part to you as well as just some of the members who have us in

556
00:51:24,340 --> 00:51:24,680
stone.

557
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:29,360
We would like to invite the three of you and anybody from the administration that would

558
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:30,260
be interested.

559
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:36,380
We'd like to work with your team on setting up a tour, not that you need to know more about

560
00:51:36,380 --> 00:51:40,820
the proper river, but we think it would be good to bring you out there again with anybody

561
00:51:40,820 --> 00:51:44,760
that you think would be useful from the administration to really continue to highlight

562
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:45,460
this project.

563
00:51:45,940 --> 00:51:49,820
And as well as anything that you think would be useful from the governor's office in regards to

564
00:51:49,820 --> 00:51:54,100
the Biden administration, we do have obviously a congressional and federal delegation on board

565
00:51:54,100 --> 00:51:58,620
but having none of the governors taken a position on this individual project if he has

566
00:51:58,620 --> 00:52:03,580
interest in or your recommendation of the administration reaching out to our federal administration

567
00:52:03,580 --> 00:52:04,020
on this.

568
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:05,440
That would be useful too.

569
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:35,420
Thank you. I'm just happy to do that. Happy to to tour and reach out on tours and in what he was referring to is in 2006. I did the build that allowed for share at all from the state for this project and then his budget share mature. The money was in the flood bond went to the voters that year. So it's been a very nice continuum and nobody ever thanks the department of water resources had for anything. So my guess is she would jump at the chance to tour this and do that.

570
00:52:36,940 --> 00:52:38,060
Thank you.

571
00:52:38,060 --> 00:52:38,760
Thank you.

572
00:52:38,780 --> 00:52:39,660
Supervisor Coordey.

573
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:42,180
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

574
00:52:42,660 --> 00:52:44,200
Thank you, sir, Lair, for joining us.

575
00:52:44,260 --> 00:52:47,740
And thank you for your work and the most difficult times.

576
00:52:48,620 --> 00:52:51,920
It's usually very difficult to govern in the state of California.

577
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,180
The last year and a half have been extraordinary.

578
00:52:56,740 --> 00:52:59,540
And I appreciate your focus both on statewide efforts.

579
00:52:59,700 --> 00:53:04,600
But also remembering where you came from and helping the communities in your district.

580
00:53:05,540 --> 00:53:22,920
All the all your bills have been and work and advocacy has been tremendous and as you mentioned, we really appreciate the money that you delivered for us to address homelessness, which is as you pointed out a far out of proportion to many communities.

581
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:30,540
our size. And I appreciate your efforts to say that the City of Accounting need to work together

582
00:53:30,540 --> 00:53:39,120
to find solutions and we will do that and then we'll be looking for longer-term funding to

583
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:45,960
ensure that we can continue these efforts and make sure we're doing the problem solving that

584
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:50,640
that is needed at the individual level to address each person experiencing homelessness,

585
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:56,880
there needs and there are the opportunities we have to help them out of that condition and then

586
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:01,140
reduce the impacts on the community. But I'm just so grateful for your constant communication

587
00:54:01,140 --> 00:54:06,040
advocacy and recognition of the of the real issues we've faced on the ground.

588
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:11,880
Thank you. And let me say we've been working closely together on the North Coast issues and

589
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:18,560
to both of our advocacy, the coastal conservancy allocated $100,000 last week to that process.

590
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:25,360
I wish it had been a little more, but it was enough to really launch it in a way that we can address those issues.

591
00:54:25,780 --> 00:54:31,640
Absolutely, and I see, and I thank you to state parks for partnering to get us the rest of the way there.

592
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:36,760
And thank you for your advocacy and your letter on Thursday as a Registment Forward.

593
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:46,820
I assure your desire that we have to have a binding enforcement of growth to provide the infrastructure necessary.

594
00:54:46,820 --> 00:54:57,720
So, the students can be successful, you're not creating educational access if students show up and they're experiencing homelessness or skipping meals struggling to find housing or classes.

595
00:54:58,620 --> 00:55:03,260
It's imperative that if we're going to create educational access and we're all committed to it.

596
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,280
As you pointed out in your letter, this is not a nimbee.

597
00:55:06,700 --> 00:55:08,880
The community is not taking a nimbee position.

598
00:55:09,180 --> 00:55:15,040
We understand the need for growth in an economy based on a knowledge-based economy.

599
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:28,180
But it has to be real access, which includes building appropriate housing and infrastructure, as well as producing water and traffic impacts.

600
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:34,800
And I was surprised at the level of hunger that was an issue amongst students.

601
00:55:35,020 --> 00:55:42,000
And you just mentioned it and one of the things that hasn't been heralded in this budget is that when institutional

602
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:46,440
meal sites couldn't deliver meals at the time of COVID.

603
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:51,340
Food banks stepped up and the National Guard came in and did it and in this budget

604
00:55:51,340 --> 00:55:57,880
we got $300 million to go directly to food banks to continue that effort into the next fiscal

605
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:03,900
year and when I was up at campus it turns out that the cowel coffee house is now what they

606
00:56:03,900 --> 00:56:11,440
refer to as a non-transactional cafe where people have the ability to eat and when I was

607
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,540
there I said how wonderful would be to serve in the legislature

608
00:56:14,540 --> 00:56:17,420
with somebody that was non-transactional whenever right over

609
00:56:17,420 --> 00:56:18,980
to head to some of the students.

610
00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:20,200
Thank you.

611
00:56:20,340 --> 00:56:21,360
Thank you very much for joining us.

612
00:56:21,380 --> 00:56:22,140
Thank you, Chair.

613
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:23,320
Thank you, Senator Laird.

614
00:56:23,660 --> 00:56:28,040
Your experience and really shows in the way you've been able

615
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,120
to address so many of these issues in a very tactical way

616
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,860
and bringing more resources into your district,

617
00:56:35,020 --> 00:56:37,800
specifically our county as well as addressing many

618
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,020
of the environmental challenges we're facing today.

619
00:56:40,020 --> 00:56:46,440
And I would just want to ask you briefly since you have dedicated so much of your career to our environment.

620
00:56:46,860 --> 00:56:55,060
What do you see, what do you currently pursuing or what are some of your colleagues pursuing proactively to help reduce our emissions statewide?

621
00:56:55,180 --> 00:57:04,540
That is a great question because this budget did great things for water and fire to deal with the impacts and the government are designed to build.

622
00:57:04,540 --> 00:57:10,800
That will set up collaborative up and down the coast to take the next steps to deal with sea level rise.

623
00:57:11,260 --> 00:57:13,980
But that's all on the adaptation side and resiliency.

624
00:57:14,180 --> 00:57:20,160
That's not on the emissions side and the legislature did not do a good job this year.

625
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:26,780
On the emissions side and the airborne is doing its next coping plan in the next 12 months,

626
00:57:27,540 --> 00:57:31,060
which is to line out the ways that we will meet our goals.

627
00:57:31,060 --> 00:57:37,000
We had a goal of 33% electricity in the renewable portfolio by 2020.

628
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,360
We met it and the next goal was 50%.

629
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:44,940
We had the Kyoto Accords put on California in 2006.

630
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,320
And so we went back to the emissions of 1990 by 2020.

631
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,540
We met that goal but then we have a next goal.

632
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:53,320
And we have a series of other ones.

633
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,180
Wind energy was just signed into law and added as a goal.

634
00:57:57,180 --> 00:58:07,740
And the question is, what we do on the granular level to meet those goals, and one of the hardest ones is the transportation sector is where significant amount of the emissions comes from.

635
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:20,800
So I think that that's where we're going to spend a bunch of time on additional charging on additional subsidies if possible for electric vehicles, different things to help us move to the next stage.

636
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:27,500
but stay tuned because in the two weeks we've been on a session, that's the one thing about next year

637
00:58:27,500 --> 00:58:32,780
that I've started to talk to stakeholders and colleagues about it because we have to be ready.

638
00:58:34,020 --> 00:58:37,340
So, and look forward to working with you on that. Thank you.

639
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:38,840
Okay, so Vice-Captain, any questions?

640
00:58:43,580 --> 00:58:52,600
Yeah, I'd just like to voice my appreciation for all the work you've done for the residents

641
00:58:52,600 --> 00:59:00,400
live there, the whole river of 100-year flood prevention project.

642
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:06,920
There's been many years people have been looking forward to getting something done

643
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:15,380
and your work on this has been a major push forward and I can't thank you enough.

644
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:21,300
Thank you. I don't know if there's any questions from the public that he does have to

645
00:59:21,300 --> 00:59:24,860
and a clock and he has a deadline. Is there any, is there any questions?

646
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,080
I can speak your songs in. How many?

647
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,280
Two. You want to say, John, I do. You have to do it.

648
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:31,680
I'll do it. I'll do it.

649
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:32,340
Make it briefly.

650
00:59:32,500 --> 00:59:35,180
Leave me. That's the lengthening. As long as I have brief questions.

651
00:59:35,460 --> 00:59:37,240
I'll do my best to have the brief answer.

652
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,160
Colonies are one. Your microphone is available.

653
00:59:48,860 --> 00:59:51,040
This is Maryland, Garrett. Hi, John.

654
00:59:53,140 --> 00:59:57,900
Hi, I applaud your heroic decades long efforts on behalf

655
00:59:57,900 --> 00:59:59,920
It's a month or two, and...

656
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:10,440
The context of what I think is a corporate dictatorship. Please help stop AT&T corporate plans to

657
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:16,440
and copper, landline, safe and reliable service.

658
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:22,640
We depend upon copper, landlines for our lives,

659
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,100
basically it's the only thing I have.

660
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:31,080
And my second question is, are you speaking

661
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,880
and how can we contact you during this time

662
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:38,340
in the county or are you speaking elsewhere?

663
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:39,380
Thank you.

664
01:00:39,380 --> 01:01:02,140
I'm speaking all over the place and and you could go to my web page and call Santa Cruz office and if anybody was listening there's also one in Monterey and San Luis Obispo or the capital office and and they'll like you know places I might be speaking or answer whatever questions you have so thanks for calling.

665
01:01:02,140 --> 01:01:04,640
I'm a person, your microphone is available.

666
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:07,380
Hi.

667
01:01:07,740 --> 01:01:13,380
I've been reading and researching that our power grid is already lacking.

668
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,060
I mean, brownouts, blackouts.

669
01:01:15,420 --> 01:01:19,700
So if we're going to increase our electric car production,

670
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,820
I don't see a path.

671
01:01:22,940 --> 01:01:28,060
I don't hear a plan about how we're going to fix our current grid situation.

672
01:01:28,660 --> 01:01:31,460
We can't handle what we have right now.

673
01:01:31,460 --> 01:01:38,180
And Sun panels aren't really a long-term answer because Sun panels, every time it rains,

674
01:01:39,900 --> 01:01:47,880
there's an ingredient in there that has leaks arsenic into our soil every single time it rains.

675
01:01:47,900 --> 01:01:49,380
That's what Sun panels do.

676
01:01:49,740 --> 01:01:51,280
That's a side effect of Sun panels.

677
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:57,380
So can you let me know about the electrical grid and what the plan is for this?

678
01:01:58,020 --> 01:01:58,340
Yes.

679
01:01:58,340 --> 01:02:02,620
Let me speak briefly to what is a very complex issue.

680
01:02:03,740 --> 01:02:07,440
And there are plans to make sure the grid would be resilient

681
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,720
and would handle those needs.

682
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,600
And there are really long-term goals of microgrids

683
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,900
to try to run a more regional basis,

684
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,940
make sure that there's enough electricity regionally.

685
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:24,140
And there are different things that are being added to balance everything off.

686
01:02:24,500 --> 01:02:26,540
So with wind and sun,

687
01:02:26,540 --> 01:02:32,980
then batteries are required to be able to cover the time when they are least providing things into the grid,

688
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:40,440
and I think over time, it's going to be the opposite of what we've come to be used to,

689
01:02:40,660 --> 01:02:46,440
because if solar is really available during the sunlight hours, we're going to be asking everybody

690
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:51,480
to use electricity during sunlight hours as opposed to putting it off with fossil fuel until

691
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,400
such time as it's dark or light at night.

692
01:02:55,020 --> 01:02:58,220
And so there are real plans to meet the need

693
01:02:59,420 --> 01:03:02,220
through a very complementary alternatives

694
01:03:02,220 --> 01:03:04,160
in a micro grid.

695
01:03:05,460 --> 01:03:07,300
And it will be a transition,

696
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:09,960
but that's where we need to be.

697
01:03:10,100 --> 01:03:11,600
Anyway, I know we've run out of time.

698
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:12,500
So thank you.

699
01:03:12,820 --> 01:03:14,980
Thank you Senator Lair for everything you're doing.

700
01:03:15,140 --> 01:03:16,900
We'll keep in contact with you,

701
01:03:16,940 --> 01:03:18,760
whether you want it or not,

702
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:20,820
but you have been very receptive to it.

703
01:03:20,820 --> 01:03:23,920
This is Santa Cruz County. You don't have to ask people to go right.

704
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,860
Okay. Thank you, Senator. Have a good day. Thank you.

705
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:30,100
Hey, we will.

706
01:03:31,300 --> 01:03:34,080
Maybe I should go back. Are there any other.

707
01:03:34,380 --> 01:03:35,300
Public comments.

708
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:36,880
Yes, there was one.

709
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:37,580
One more.

710
01:03:41,610 --> 01:03:41,870
Thank you.

711
01:03:41,950 --> 01:03:42,910
Your microphone is available.

712
01:03:44,630 --> 01:03:48,050
Thank you. This is Becky Steinburner. Can you hear me?

713
01:03:48,190 --> 01:03:48,450
Yeah.

714
01:03:48,450 --> 01:03:59,590
Thank you. I will follow up with Senator Layard in his quarters, but thank you for having him here this morning. I appreciate that overview very much.

715
01:04:00,130 --> 01:04:11,030
I would have asked him if he would help support your effort to get考fire to provide an after-action review of the CZU fire. That's important.

716
01:04:11,030 --> 01:04:15,510
And he can use his influence to make sure that it happened.

717
01:04:15,770 --> 01:04:17,970
So I will follow up with him on that.

718
01:04:18,250 --> 01:04:22,410
I'm concerned about the lack of calfar resources in this county.

719
01:04:23,310 --> 01:04:29,390
As of two weeks ago, there were only seven calfar engines in this county.

720
01:04:30,110 --> 01:04:33,950
Most of them have had been sent out to strike teams elsewhere.

721
01:04:34,990 --> 01:04:40,970
When calfar goes, most of our type three fire engines that are the best to take up.

722
01:04:40,970 --> 01:04:44,330
into the rural mountain areas with substandard roads,

723
01:04:44,670 --> 01:04:47,850
those leaves, they take them with them on the strike teams.

724
01:04:48,110 --> 01:04:51,470
County fire only has two type three engines.

725
01:04:52,470 --> 01:04:55,090
So I am concerned and I hope that Senator Laird

726
01:04:55,090 --> 01:04:59,050
will help get more resources that can stay more locally

727
01:04:59,050 --> 01:05:02,790
in our area to help protect our citizens.

728
01:05:03,850 --> 01:05:06,090
Thank you very much again for having him here

729
01:05:06,090 --> 01:05:07,990
and I will follow up privately.

730
01:05:08,210 --> 01:05:09,190
Thank you very much.

731
01:05:09,190 --> 01:05:11,510
Okay. Thank you.

732
01:05:11,510 --> 01:05:12,290
And now they're speaking.

733
01:05:13,970 --> 01:05:17,830
We will now go to the consent agenda item number six.

734
01:05:18,010 --> 01:05:22,150
Are there any remarks from the board members?

735
01:05:22,890 --> 01:05:23,850
Yes, thank you chair.

736
01:05:24,110 --> 01:05:29,250
Of course on item 36 that is wanted to thank you chair McPherson as well as supervisor

737
01:05:29,250 --> 01:05:30,570
Cleanerty for bringing this forward.

738
01:05:30,750 --> 01:05:36,010
It's been mentioned several times, but the after action report on the CZU complex fire is definitely much needed.

739
01:05:36,010 --> 01:05:40,610
And then on item 45, acknowledging the drought emergency and

740
01:05:40,610 --> 01:05:47,570
requesting a 15% reduction in use, I just wanted to use the opportunity to make it perfectly clear what situation we're in.

741
01:05:47,650 --> 01:05:54,610
I think Senator Laird mentioned it as well, but we saw 77% of the average rainfall two years ago, 53% of the last year.

742
01:05:55,310 --> 01:06:01,930
And our drought today in the second year of the drought has already worsened it was with four years of drought previously.

743
01:06:02,510 --> 01:06:09,290
And we are expecting 70% of the 70% percent chance that we'll see another dry year this year.

744
01:06:09,950 --> 01:06:11,190
So please, please, please.

745
01:06:11,270 --> 01:06:14,350
I hope everyone will do their part and reduce water use at least 15%.

746
01:06:14,450 --> 01:06:16,510
We've been historically very good at that in our county.

747
01:06:16,870 --> 01:06:19,090
And I hope everyone will continue to care that forward.

748
01:06:19,930 --> 01:06:20,690
Those are all my comments.

749
01:06:20,770 --> 01:06:21,170
Thank you, Chair.

750
01:06:21,470 --> 01:06:21,850
Thank you.

751
01:06:22,050 --> 01:06:22,970
Supervisor Friend.

752
01:06:24,150 --> 01:06:25,190
I thank you, Mr. Chair.

753
01:06:25,750 --> 01:06:30,930
Briefly, just like to welcome Dr. Bill of Social Sciences on her appointment on item 35.

754
01:06:30,930 --> 01:06:38,150
on item 37, I appreciate the chair joining with me and the comments from Ms. Mayce and others.

755
01:06:38,430 --> 01:06:43,810
We received so many letters in regards to the PG&E issues, not just to my district, but to

756
01:06:43,810 --> 01:06:49,870
Verizon. For instance, district, we held two town halls, although to be fair, they were really

757
01:06:49,870 --> 01:06:55,770
controlled by PG&E, and so there was a lack of back and forth quite frankly at those town halls,

758
01:06:55,770 --> 01:06:59,070
but there was a remarkable turnout.

759
01:06:59,070 --> 01:07:01,470
I have to say that for our two world,

760
01:07:01,750 --> 01:07:03,330
these two world portions are a district

761
01:07:03,330 --> 01:07:05,210
to have that level of number of people

762
01:07:05,210 --> 01:07:06,070
to turn out on these webinars

763
01:07:06,070 --> 01:07:09,550
goes to show the import of this issue.

764
01:07:10,150 --> 01:07:12,850
Less than 24 hours after PG&E held the webinar,

765
01:07:13,070 --> 01:07:16,190
at least in my district, it's

766
01:07:16,190 --> 01:07:18,310
finding that they had made significant changes

767
01:07:18,310 --> 01:07:20,750
to the fast trip sensors and changing

768
01:07:20,750 --> 01:07:24,510
their health sensitive, they were that area last hour,

769
01:07:24,510 --> 01:07:29,830
Again, so clearly what they're doing isn't quite meeting the market at this point, and as

770
01:07:29,830 --> 01:07:34,710
Chairman First and I believe that realistically, the only way to amplify the voices to get the

771
01:07:34,710 --> 01:07:40,250
CPC involved with the situation to actually look into this process.

772
01:07:40,390 --> 01:07:43,470
I mean, PG&E has got a lot of challenges throughout the state.

773
01:07:43,770 --> 01:07:47,190
It's no different here, but people rely on this power.

774
01:07:47,290 --> 01:07:51,650
I received an email from a constituent yesterday who has cancers.

775
01:07:51,650 --> 01:07:54,230
She requires an in-home treatment that requires power.

776
01:07:54,490 --> 01:07:56,410
There's been the power's been so episodic.

777
01:07:56,590 --> 01:07:59,630
It's been unreliable for health reasons at home.

778
01:07:59,870 --> 01:08:01,910
It, if we're losing food, just village,

779
01:08:02,110 --> 01:08:05,410
they're unable through their septic as well as their well system

780
01:08:05,410 --> 01:08:08,590
to operate either water or any sort of sewer-based system

781
01:08:08,590 --> 01:08:09,990
because of loss of power.

782
01:08:10,130 --> 01:08:11,670
People that have been working remotely,

783
01:08:11,890 --> 01:08:13,910
which is something that this board has been encouraging,

784
01:08:14,710 --> 01:08:16,750
have been unable to do so.

785
01:08:16,930 --> 01:08:19,930
At this point, the average power loss

786
01:08:19,930 --> 01:08:24,810
And my district anyway is almost seven hours at a time that it's gone, and there's absolutely

787
01:08:24,810 --> 01:08:26,290
no notices to win at all occur.

788
01:08:26,290 --> 01:08:29,690
And if you look outside, we don't even have the weather that normally causes these kinds

789
01:08:29,690 --> 01:08:33,510
of power losses at this point, so I can only imagine what could happen.

790
01:08:33,750 --> 01:08:36,690
And not just with PSPS, moving forward, but just with the winter in general.

791
01:08:37,310 --> 01:08:42,890
So there's a really problematic situation with no solution presented quite frankly from PG&E

792
01:08:42,890 --> 01:08:43,610
at this point.

793
01:08:43,690 --> 01:08:47,470
And so we're encouraging our colleagues who've been absolutely so supportive in the past

794
01:08:47,470 --> 01:08:51,590
on this to help us work with the CPC to do some sort of additional oversight.

795
01:08:52,410 --> 01:08:53,130
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

796
01:08:53,790 --> 01:08:54,150
Thank you.

797
01:08:54,330 --> 01:08:55,470
Thank you.

798
01:08:58,010 --> 01:08:58,630
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

799
01:08:58,730 --> 01:09:00,050
I have no comments today.

800
01:09:00,290 --> 01:09:00,630
Thank you.

801
01:09:00,750 --> 01:09:01,530
Supervisor Capit.

802
01:09:02,930 --> 01:09:03,770
Thank you.

803
01:09:03,770 --> 01:09:04,690
Thank you.

804
01:09:04,910 --> 01:09:05,890
Number 35.

805
01:09:06,130 --> 01:09:19,210
I want to welcome Nancy Billisuch to the

806
01:09:19,210 --> 01:09:23,570
Green Valley road to East Lake Avenue,

807
01:09:24,210 --> 01:09:25,130
who Lehan road.

808
01:09:27,010 --> 01:09:29,630
That's gonna help out a lot in the traffic.

809
01:09:30,550 --> 01:09:35,230
And then this is related, I don't think 47, I don't think 50.

810
01:09:36,010 --> 01:09:37,490
The intersection that,

811
01:09:37,650 --> 01:09:44,710
who Lehan and I were 152 near the Lakeview Middle School,

812
01:09:45,450 --> 01:09:47,190
that'll be a great improvement there

813
01:09:47,190 --> 01:09:48,410
for the traffic also.

814
01:09:49,670 --> 01:10:00,030
Thank you. Thank you. I have a couple of items I wanted to address. I remember 24 the new updated operational plan for fiscal years 2021 through 23.

815
01:10:01,350 --> 01:10:10,410
This is a great pamphlet. The importance of this operational plan really cannot be overstated. It's really the roadmap to what this county's going to do.

816
01:10:11,290 --> 01:10:16,550
effectively guiding what the staff has, we get community input, and staff input of what

817
01:10:16,550 --> 01:10:23,290
our priorities, and it's really encouraging to see that we're able to complete 73% of the

818
01:10:23,290 --> 01:10:29,450
objectives that we're set for in the past two years that we set for ourselves. I think it's a tremendous

819
01:10:29,450 --> 01:10:34,690
accomplishment and I want to compliment the CAO for putting this in place to begin with when

820
01:10:34,690 --> 01:10:40,910
It became our CAO, our Carlos Flausios, and every one of the county employees who has participated in this.

821
01:10:41,510 --> 01:10:48,250
It's critical and if people want to know where the county is going or what its plans are, this operational plan will give you a great idea.

822
01:10:48,670 --> 01:10:52,370
And it's not a long read, so I encourage you to look at it.

823
01:10:52,670 --> 01:11:01,890
Also on the autumn 2036, a supervisor, Coonerty, and I brought this forward because we need to be fully prepared to learn

824
01:11:01,890 --> 01:11:10,210
And our lessons from the last fire and what we can do to learn from what happened to CZU

825
01:11:10,210 --> 01:11:11,210
complex fire.

826
01:11:11,890 --> 01:11:19,170
We have the county fire has conducted an evaluation of the local collective response for

827
01:11:19,170 --> 01:11:20,070
the CZU.

828
01:11:20,450 --> 01:11:25,090
And now we're requesting Cal Fire to conduct a similar review of the state's response.

829
01:11:25,310 --> 01:11:31,270
They did have a town halls, but it wasn't what they called the conventional hot wash.

830
01:11:31,270 --> 01:11:40,370
And we think we deserve that, and we want that, and we thought that we were going to get it in the first place, but we're requesting it again now to have them come before us.

831
01:11:42,370 --> 01:11:47,630
On item number 37 the CPUC to investigate the fast trip outages.

832
01:11:48,590 --> 01:11:59,870
Thank you supervisor friend for bringing this item forward with me to work on with my office to get PG&E to schedule a community meetings, which we did, but as you said, it was on their terms.

833
01:12:01,270 --> 01:12:05,770
But I think an investigation by the Public Utilities Commission could provide more information

834
01:12:05,770 --> 01:12:11,170
and perhaps some requirements of how PG manages the wildfire prevention efforts.

835
01:12:13,410 --> 01:12:19,670
I think there's a lot more answers we need and for what they're seeing how they're going

836
01:12:19,670 --> 01:12:22,050
to correct some of the issues we're facing now.

837
01:12:22,510 --> 01:12:31,030
On item number 41 housing matters, I want to thank the housing matters, they're really

838
01:12:31,030 --> 01:12:33,510
providing some critical sheltering in our community.

839
01:12:33,890 --> 01:12:36,930
There's sheltering 125 people in one year.

840
01:12:37,430 --> 01:12:40,250
And that means not sound a lot like a lot

841
01:12:40,250 --> 01:12:42,350
when we have identified in the last census,

842
01:12:42,470 --> 01:12:44,450
I think, towards about 2,500.

843
01:12:45,370 --> 01:12:49,310
But the amount of work it takes and the amount of cost it takes,

844
01:12:50,150 --> 01:12:53,070
I don't think people understand how costly

845
01:12:53,070 --> 01:12:58,310
and how dedicated an organization or the county has to be

846
01:12:58,310 --> 01:13:01,290
to make this happen just for 125 people.

847
01:13:02,110 --> 01:13:04,830
But it's too many return to the streets.

848
01:13:05,430 --> 01:13:07,630
And as we know, but we appreciate the good work

849
01:13:07,630 --> 01:13:10,930
of housing matters, their team and investment.

850
01:13:11,250 --> 01:13:15,490
They are making on their campus to provide these additional 125

851
01:13:15,490 --> 01:13:15,890
units.

852
01:13:16,070 --> 01:13:17,290
It's very much appreciated.

853
01:13:17,730 --> 01:13:21,330
They had a great effort to raise funds to address that.

854
01:13:21,570 --> 01:13:24,170
And as was mentioned by Supervisor Koenig on the drought,

855
01:13:25,270 --> 01:13:33,250
We're in a deeper situation than we have been other, and the impact that has on the ground

856
01:13:33,250 --> 01:13:34,110
water levels.

857
01:13:34,350 --> 01:13:39,830
We have now some ground water agencies, the mid-county has completed its plan.

858
01:13:40,710 --> 01:13:48,610
Now we have one, it's going to be completed for the Santa Margarita, and we need to have

859
01:13:48,610 --> 01:13:50,230
that done by the first of next year.

860
01:13:50,230 --> 01:13:53,950
So the state doesn't come in and tell us how to manage that.

861
01:13:54,430 --> 01:13:58,930
So we are very much impressed and pretty hopeful

862
01:13:58,930 --> 01:14:01,290
that we can have a plan that meets our efforts.

863
01:14:01,530 --> 01:14:02,810
And we do encourage you.

864
01:14:02,810 --> 01:14:06,770
Please reduce your water usage by at least 15%.

865
01:14:06,770 --> 01:14:09,650
What we save now is going to be so much so valuable.

866
01:14:09,650 --> 01:14:12,270
If we have another drought, come to Sember, January.

867
01:14:13,930 --> 01:14:15,450
We need a lot more help in that.

868
01:14:15,450 --> 01:14:17,370
So I do appreciate that.

869
01:14:18,770 --> 01:14:29,510
I think that would do it for the, and thank you for that, with that I would entertain a motion to approve the consent agenda.

870
01:14:30,690 --> 01:14:32,430
All move.

871
01:14:32,430 --> 01:14:38,130
I think the term of person, this is small potential modification on your item with supervisor

872
01:14:38,130 --> 01:14:43,590
Cunary on item 36 for the speaker, Ms. Steinburner's comment.

873
01:14:43,730 --> 01:14:48,390
Maybe we just also direct the board to chair to run a letter to the Department of Forestry.

874
01:14:48,450 --> 01:14:52,850
And also just CCR or legislative delegation or state legislative delegation in case they

875
01:14:52,850 --> 01:14:54,070
can help with that process.

876
01:14:55,070 --> 01:14:59,210
So hopefully you consider that a friendly amendment to just add that CC on to that letter.

877
01:14:59,630 --> 01:14:59,970
Yeah, I certainly.

878
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:11,960
I think people don't know how much we've communicated, so to speak, with PG&E and CPUC and others to try to get more answers.

879
01:15:12,980 --> 01:15:15,420
Thank you. Yeah, except that amendment for sure.

880
01:15:15,500 --> 01:15:15,760
Thank you.

881
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:16,300
Thank you.

882
01:15:16,300 --> 01:15:17,520
I'm sure we'll too.

883
01:15:18,180 --> 01:15:23,780
Okay. So the maker of the motion, are you okay with moving the consent agenda as amended then?

884
01:15:23,780 --> 01:15:24,280
Yes.

885
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:24,960
Yes.

886
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:32,020
Yes, I think the motion was from directly from supervisor cap. It's just confirming you're okay with that amendment that is an agenda that my name

887
01:15:33,990 --> 01:15:39,030
That's okay. Yeah, you said yes, okay. Thank you

888
01:15:39,030 --> 01:15:39,610
Okay

889
01:15:39,610 --> 01:15:41,970
Any other comments

890
01:15:43,230 --> 01:15:44,430
All right

891
01:15:44,430 --> 01:15:47,270
And for clarity supervisor friend is a seconder

892
01:15:49,050 --> 01:15:50,690
It's a razor cone egg

893
01:15:50,690 --> 01:15:50,990
I

894
01:15:51,610 --> 01:15:52,210
Friend

895
01:15:52,210 --> 01:15:52,810
I

896
01:15:52,810 --> 01:15:53,690
Security?

897
01:15:54,510 --> 01:15:55,970
How did?

898
01:15:56,270 --> 01:15:57,570
Make fair soon.

899
01:15:57,930 --> 01:16:00,010
I think you must incapacitate unanimously.

900
01:16:00,450 --> 01:16:06,610
Okay, we will now move to the regular agenda, Senator Laird having already addressed

901
01:16:06,610 --> 01:16:07,470
us.

902
01:16:07,550 --> 01:16:14,550
Item number 8 is a public hearing to consider the report on the year 2022 growth rule adopt

903
01:16:14,550 --> 01:16:15,710
a resolution established.

904
01:16:15,710 --> 01:16:22,390
We have received a 0.25% for the year 2022 in the unincorporated portion of the county

905
01:16:22,390 --> 01:16:26,310
and authorized a planning staff to file a the sequence notice of exemption as outlined

906
01:16:26,310 --> 01:16:28,010
in the memorandum of the planning director.

907
01:16:28,670 --> 01:16:34,550
We have a resolution to adopt the growth role for 2022, the sequence notice of exemption,

908
01:16:34,970 --> 01:16:40,750
a year 2022 growth goal report, planning commission resolution, and planning commission

909
01:16:40,750 --> 01:16:48,350
staff report of September 8th, 2021, and here to present to this will be Natasha Williams,

910
01:16:48,690 --> 01:16:52,510
a planner, a sustainability and special projects for our planning department.

911
01:16:52,830 --> 01:16:54,330
Good morning, Supervisors.

912
01:16:56,750 --> 01:17:02,030
The county's growth management system was instituted in 1979 following the adoption of Measure

913
01:17:02,030 --> 01:17:07,950
J to address the resource and public services impacts of population growth in Santa Cruz County.

914
01:17:08,990 --> 01:17:13,350
As part of the growth management system, each year the county is required to set an annual

915
01:17:13,350 --> 01:17:17,290
growth goal for the upcoming year that represents a fair share of the state's growth.

916
01:17:18,010 --> 01:17:21,910
The 2022 growth goal report is before you today for consideration.

917
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:37,360
Its report examines various factors used in establishing the year 2022 growth goal for the

918
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:43,320
unincorporated area, and includes analysis of population growth trends, resource constraints,

919
01:17:44,020 --> 01:17:52,680
The status of this year's allocations, the county's housing needs, including progress towards meeting the county's required regional housing needs allocation or arena.

920
01:17:53,480 --> 01:17:59,680
A review of the demolition permits and density bonus projects approved in the past year as well as the ADU annual report.

921
01:18:00,380 --> 01:18:09,120
This year's report also includes a discussion of the permanent room housing project applications, as well as impacts of recent state law on the county's growth management system.

922
01:18:15,970 --> 01:18:25,450
We've noted in the growth goal report, the unincorporated area of Santa Cruz County had an estimated negative 0.43% growth rate last year.

923
01:18:26,090 --> 01:18:34,270
All jurisdictions, except for Scott Spally, also saw negative growth rates, and the county as a whole has seen declining population totals in recent years.

924
01:18:34,270 --> 01:18:46,110
The state this year also decreased by negative 0.46% sorry in 2020 and that is the first annual decline since the state population estimates have recorded.

925
01:18:47,050 --> 01:18:59,950
Population estimates for cities and unincorporated counties are determined using the housing housing unit method, which means that the number of new housing units constructed each year plays a large part in determining annual population estimates.

926
01:18:59,950 --> 01:19:07,470
The DOF also notes that the states unprecedented negative growth rate last year is the result of three major factors.

927
01:19:08,350 --> 01:19:13,070
The first is continuing declines in natural increase, which is birth minus deaths.

928
01:19:13,650 --> 01:19:19,270
The second is continuing declines in foreign immigration, which were accelerated by recent federal policy.

929
01:19:20,110 --> 01:19:27,570
And the third is deaths associated with the COVID-19 pandemic, which increased deaths across the state last year,

930
01:19:27,570 --> 01:19:31,730
by 51,000 or 19% above the average death rate.

931
01:19:33,330 --> 01:19:42,270
That's related to the pandemic decline and with federal policy changes is expected that the state will return to a positive annual growth rate in coming years.

932
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:58,780
Recent population estimates for Santa Cruz County indicate continuing downward trend of population growth rates in the decades since the 1960s and 70s when the county grew much faster than the state.

933
01:19:58,780 --> 01:20:04,600
The 2020 census is expected to provide more precise and upstate population numbers for our

934
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:04,980
county.

935
01:20:05,440 --> 01:20:09,380
However, insufficient data was available at the time that the GOF population estimates were

936
01:20:09,380 --> 01:20:12,240
prepared, so these two years will be included in next year's report.

937
01:20:18,990 --> 01:20:23,830
The growth goal report also summarizes the current status of the 2021 residential building

938
01:20:23,830 --> 01:20:24,850
permit allocations.

939
01:20:25,430 --> 01:20:34,350
This year, 2021 allocations have been granted as a July 1st, if demand continues at the

940
01:20:34,350 --> 01:20:37,230
will be granted by the end of the year.

941
01:20:37,690 --> 01:20:41,270
This is comparable to last year when 20 building permit allocations

942
01:20:41,270 --> 01:20:43,690
had been granted by July 1st, 2020.

943
01:20:44,730 --> 01:20:48,350
Demand for allocations has remained low compared to previous decades

944
01:20:48,350 --> 01:20:50,990
and staff and to space there will be more than enough permits

945
01:20:50,990 --> 01:20:53,470
available for the remainder of this year.

946
01:20:58,180 --> 01:21:00,760
In accordance with the Housing Crisis Act of 2019,

947
01:21:01,140 --> 01:21:02,480
Senate Bill 330,

948
01:21:03,460 --> 01:21:05,760
Santa Cruz County will continue to not enforce

949
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:11,520
the Measure Drake Grove goal limit on residential allocations within affected county areas while

950
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:18,480
this statue is in place. And originally this was from January 1st, 2020 to January 1st, 2025,

951
01:21:19,260 --> 01:21:22,960
but the recent passing SBA extends this to 2030.

952
01:21:25,180 --> 01:21:28,580
In San Cruz County this includes the following CDPs,

953
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:36,280
Live Oak, Pasta Tampo, Paradise Park, and a messy as shown in blue on this map.

954
01:21:37,300 --> 01:21:46,420
All other aspects of Measure J unrelated to limiting building permit or population such as the county's affordable housing requirements are not impacted by this bill.

955
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:52,480
And staff will continue to track Measure J allocations and subsequent building permit issuance for reporting purposes.

956
01:21:53,400 --> 01:22:01,760
The CZU Lightning Complex Fire is another aspect that we've analyzed in preparing this report.

957
01:22:02,220 --> 01:22:09,540
In addition, pursuant to San Cruz County Code Section 12.02, 0.020.

958
01:22:10,220 --> 01:22:15,100
All residential units impacted by the CZU August Lightning Fire Complex fires.

959
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:19,420
We'll continue to be exempt from the Measure J residential allocation system.

960
01:22:24,580 --> 01:22:32,900
Based on the analysis detailed and the report staff recommends that the growth goal be set at 0.25% for calendar year 2022.

961
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:38,520
In past years, the county's growth goal has been consistent with the state of California's growth rate,

962
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:42,960
constituting our fair share of population growth as dictated by a measure chain.

963
01:22:43,860 --> 01:22:47,940
However, as noted earlier, there were a number of anomalies in the state's recent,

964
01:22:47,940 --> 01:22:57,360
The state's 2020 growth rate that contributed to population decline and state population estimates are expected to show a return to positive growth in coming years.

965
01:22:57,980 --> 01:23:08,960
Setting this past year side if you look at state population growth over the last three years the state grew by an average of 0.25% which is commensurate with a recommended growth goal.

966
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:20,920
It's important to note that the county of Santa Cruz is in the final few years of the 2014 to 2023 reign of cycle, but currently more than half of the units allocated to a region have not been built.

967
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:32,160
Also important to consider is the recent state housing in ADU laws that continue to be refined by the state, including the recent passage of SB 9.

968
01:23:33,020 --> 01:23:35,920
That increased in filled development in our area.

969
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:40,880
potential financial development. Additionally, both GOF and Ambad population

970
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:46,580
projects, population projections for cast growing populations in our region.

971
01:23:47,580 --> 01:23:53,860
And in light of all of this, staff is recommending a 0.25% growth rate for calendar year 2022

972
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:58,680
as required by the county code representing our fair share of population growth.

973
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:04,940
This growth rate would result in an allocation of 130 market rate units,

974
01:24:04,940 --> 01:24:11,100
available for the year 2022, allocations will be distributed between the urban and rural areas

975
01:24:11,100 --> 01:24:17,980
of the county at a 75% to 25% ratio in order to recognize the greater potential for

976
01:24:17,980 --> 01:24:24,080
infield development in urban areas. The 2022 growth goal report also recommends as in previous

977
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:30,640
years, but the unused market rate allocations from 2021 be carried over to 2022 in accordance

978
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:36,600
with policy 3.2 of the general plan housing element. This would result in a total projected

979
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:43,940
219 market rate residential building permit allocations available for 2022.

980
01:24:44,540 --> 01:24:51,220
This has found that establishment of the 2021 growth rate, sorry, growth goal is exempt

981
01:24:51,220 --> 01:24:55,640
under the California Environmental Quality Act, and a notice of the exemption has been prepared.

982
01:24:57,420 --> 01:25:01,280
The year 2022 growth goal was also presented

983
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:03,160
with plenty of commission on September 8th

984
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:04,520
and recommended for approval.

985
01:25:07,770 --> 01:25:10,610
Trats therefore recommend that the Board of Supervisors

986
01:25:10,610 --> 01:25:13,390
conduct public hearing to consider the report

987
01:25:13,390 --> 01:25:16,950
on the year 2022 growth goal and close the public hearing.

988
01:25:17,210 --> 01:25:20,290
Adopt the attached resolution, establishing a year 2022

989
01:25:20,290 --> 01:25:23,870
growth goal of 0.25% for the unincorporated portion

990
01:25:23,870 --> 01:25:26,450
of the county and authorize the filing

991
01:25:26,450 --> 01:25:30,990
the secret notice of the exemption with the clerk of the board. This concludes the presentation,

992
01:25:31,310 --> 01:25:35,470
and we'd be happy to answer any questions. Thank you. I think I'll open up to the public. Is there

993
01:25:35,470 --> 01:25:38,230
anybody for the public who would like to address us on this issue?

994
01:25:43,210 --> 01:25:46,450
I'm going to want to make a

995
01:25:46,450 --> 01:25:51,410
couple of comments myself. I do have public comments. I'll excuse me. Yeah, on the phone.

996
01:25:51,410 --> 01:25:54,430
Call or two nine one five your microphone is available.

997
01:25:57,860 --> 01:26:01,220
Hello, this is Becky Steinburner, can you hear me?

998
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:01,980
Yeah.

999
01:26:02,700 --> 01:26:03,480
Thank you.

1000
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:09,260
Thank you for that report and I'm happy to see the good growth goal report here.

1001
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,220
I was concerned at first that it was much shorter.

1002
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:21,700
What I don't see is any address of the impacts of dance infill on infrastructure.

1003
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:30,420
road improvements, mass transportation to serve those areas, especially with new legislation

1004
01:26:30,420 --> 01:26:38,580
that exempt parking requirements for infill development within, I think, it's a half

1005
01:26:38,580 --> 01:26:45,940
mile or so of a mass transportation line. So we do need to look at that. I'm curious

1006
01:26:45,940 --> 01:26:53,040
That's why Ambegg still feels that this area will have an increase in population when

1007
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:55,660
clearly the trends are going down.

1008
01:26:56,420 --> 01:27:00,280
I would appreciate that discussion on that.

1009
01:27:00,740 --> 01:27:09,620
I also note that Measure J will not be enforced in areas due to SB 330 that are considered

1010
01:27:09,620 --> 01:27:10,660
disadvantaged.

1011
01:27:10,660 --> 01:27:18,560
You may be interested to know that recently the state water board added tapotola to the disadvantaged communities.

1012
01:27:19,440 --> 01:27:26,580
So I think that that should also be included in those areas where measure J will not be enforced.

1013
01:27:27,440 --> 01:27:32,000
Finally, I'm concerned about the counties not meeting the green and numbers.

1014
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:41,100
I appreciate that there are projects coming along, but the state is moving to penalize communities,

1015
01:27:41,340 --> 01:27:46,500
counties and cities that do not meet those green and numbers, and I would like a discussion

1016
01:27:46,500 --> 01:27:54,240
by the board what they see as being able to award that off. Can we put in those pilot shelter

1017
01:27:54,240 --> 01:28:00,380
communities that the board has set money aside for and really get moving on affordable

1018
01:28:03,170 --> 01:28:06,050
On user one, your microphone is available.

1019
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:22,000
We wanted to be here at the rest to walk back to sign Bruno, but saying, how rude to cut off people.

1020
01:28:22,660 --> 01:28:32,420
My basic comments are, I understand that the county has lost population by about 3.4%.

1021
01:28:32,420 --> 01:28:37,040
But there are still increased building permits.

1022
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:46,620
I would like to see Measure J enforced, not exempt from enforcement.

1023
01:28:47,740 --> 01:28:55,860
And also we need public housing, low-cost housing for everyone because we're going to

1024
01:28:55,860 --> 01:29:03,340
Many massive numbers of people out on the street, the unemployment has been taken away

1025
01:29:03,340 --> 01:29:05,460
and they're likely hoods destroyed.

1026
01:29:06,300 --> 01:29:13,020
Where are their efforts for public housing instead of big developments, Mike, for

1027
01:29:13,020 --> 01:29:17,120
Spencer, and what's going on in downtown Santa Cruz?

1028
01:29:17,740 --> 01:29:21,220
Where is the housing for the poor people?

1029
01:29:21,220 --> 01:29:26,340
who is helping food, not bombs, that's what is needed.

1030
01:29:27,140 --> 01:29:31,040
We need a change of structure that provides for the poor

1031
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:33,620
and working class people.

1032
01:29:34,020 --> 01:29:35,100
Thank you.

1033
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:40,400
There are no other speakers on the same.

1034
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:42,820
Okay, I'd like to make a couple of comments.

1035
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:46,300
Thank you for that realistic overview of housing.

1036
01:29:48,380 --> 01:29:53,900
And it's unrealistic to think this county, honestly,

1037
01:29:53,900 --> 01:29:59,800
is going to meet when I used to serve on Ambegg and do not know at this point but to meet the housing.

1038
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:04,900
And demands of the state, I mean, they try to show this on our throat, but it's just not realistic

1039
01:30:04,900 --> 01:30:09,680
of what they're trying to have everybody do. And if they penalize this county, they're going

1040
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:14,820
to be penalized in every city and county in the state, probably. It's really a frustrating

1041
01:30:14,820 --> 01:30:19,740
situation. Everybody sees the need, but let's get real. You know, it's not happening. I would

1042
01:30:19,740 --> 01:30:27,600
like to say that since Measure J was past 42 years ago, there was a requirement for 15% of the housing

1043
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:34,920
be affordable. And as a matter of fact, 15.6% of all new residential development has been affordable housing.

1044
01:30:35,780 --> 01:30:42,340
So that part of the goal has been met with measure J that we, the voters pass in 1978, I believe it was.

1045
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:51,720
But these, these growth goals are difficult to meet, given the challenges we face to construct new housing units, especially affordable units.

1046
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:58,800
And in light of the water and transportation limitations that we have as we speak in a drought

1047
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:04,440
serenessent in the face, we need new sources of funding if we're going to have these affordable units.

1048
01:31:05,140 --> 01:31:10,380
But another challenge historically has been our own system for processing billing permits.

1049
01:31:11,220 --> 01:31:19,540
And I'd like to ask a question, do we anticipate that the new permitting center might encourage more permits year to year that's going to be in place

1050
01:31:19,540 --> 01:31:28,000
I believe, but the first part of next year, do we expect the consolidation to set targets for getting closer to the growth goal?

1051
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:48,420
Thank you, Chair McPherson. Perhaps I can help with that. Yes, the intent to the UPC is certainly to streamline the permit approval process, so that permits that have historically taken a long time will take a shorter period of time and therefore more permits can be.

1052
01:31:48,420 --> 01:31:50,580
That's probably the most welcome news I've heard today.

1053
01:31:51,020 --> 01:31:55,960
That is the intent. It may take a little bit of process improvement to get there.

1054
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:02,620
Thank you. I'll entertain questions from board members.

1055
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:04,580
Yeah, thank you chair.

1056
01:32:05,220 --> 01:32:10,860
You mentioned that we hadn't met our renegals in this cycle and as chairman Pearson alluded to,

1057
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:14,120
the numbers from the state in the next cycle are about triple.

1058
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:16,160
what they have been in this cycle.

1059
01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:22,560
So it does appear like it will be a serious challenge to meet those, whether it's possible at all.

1060
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:27,020
We, yes, first of all, if you've done the math,

1061
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:32,700
you know, would even meet the next renacycals goals on market rate housing,

1062
01:32:32,700 --> 01:32:37,160
is it possible that this growth goal, assuming we continue it,

1063
01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:39,900
at this rate, which is required by county code,

1064
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:41,680
is it at some point going to come in a conflict?

1065
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:47,180
Yeah, that was one of the factors that we used to determine are growth goals.

1066
01:32:47,500 --> 01:32:48,560
Mike, I'm sure.

1067
01:32:50,360 --> 01:33:02,700
Yeah, we looked at the rena numbers and insured that the growth goal we're proposing would not prevent us from reaching our annual rena requirement for market rate.

1068
01:33:02,700 --> 01:33:08,540
is okay right because I mean I understand that we've really fallen short on the affordable and

1069
01:33:08,540 --> 01:33:14,060
or I should say low income and very low income number of units in the growth goal so that makes sense

1070
01:33:14,060 --> 01:33:20,040
but if you've done that map for the next renacycle and I know that it hasn't actually been allocated

1071
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:26,620
to our specific area but even if we were just to say triple the amount in the current renacycle

1072
01:33:26,620 --> 01:33:28,580
would this come in the conflict?

1073
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:31,700
You know, the, the, the, the, the,

1074
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:34,700
the first goal is set based on kind of the recent trends

1075
01:33:34,700 --> 01:33:37,820
and then what we see coming forward in the next year.

1076
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:41,980
We do not have our rena numbers yet for the sixth cycle.

1077
01:33:42,500 --> 01:33:46,180
We have an inkling given that, as you know,

1078
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:50,960
the overall rena number was about three times the fifth cycle.

1079
01:33:51,300 --> 01:33:55,440
So as we continue to absorb that,

1080
01:33:55,440 --> 01:34:00,900
work on our housing element next year we'll really try to figure out how we're going to accommodate

1081
01:34:00,900 --> 01:34:06,580
those units and the go school will kind of track that and follow along and if we can

1082
01:34:06,580 --> 01:34:12,120
if we can possibly get to a point where we are accommodating more growth and are able to meet

1083
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:16,820
that, then you'll see those adjustments in the next couple of goals.

1084
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:21,800
I see so you're suggesting that because the state has basically troubled the

1085
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:42,800
The renegals for most of the jurisdictions that have received their numbers statewide, and because the growth goal is tied to overall state growth that we might see the growth goal just continue to to increase the growth goal is quite low and it's been heading in that trend for for a while as you know.

1086
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:52,600
I'll try to adjust our policies and regulatory environment to allow better use of our urban lands.

1087
01:34:53,400 --> 01:35:00,080
And that, along with the legislative actions that have been taken this year, the past couple of years,

1088
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:04,820
we'll continue to see openings and hopefully the economy sticks with us.

1089
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:09,540
We'll see that growth level rise as it will in the state and other jurisdictions.

1090
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:10,300
We're hoping.

1091
01:35:10,300 --> 01:35:33,080
Okay, thank you. And just one last question, maybe for county council actually, I mean, is if there were to be a conflict in the future and you know someone didn't receive a permit because because of the growth goal and the number of permits have already been given out is it possible that that we could be sued for this and that it would this even stand up is this limit legal.

1092
01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:56,180
Well, we were sued a number of years ago, back in 2005, actually, around our housing element associated with not meeting our renegol. So the answer to your first question is can we be sued is yes. And we can be instructed by the court as we were in that case to adjust some of the things that we were doing at the time. This is a growth goal.

1093
01:35:56,180 --> 01:36:07,180
You know, and there are mechanisms in place to address when we don't hit our goal, you know, going forward.

1094
01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:11,480
So, you know, can we be sued? Yes, we can be sued.

1095
01:36:11,740 --> 01:36:18,340
But other than that, you know, it gives you a level of abstraction in concept that I wouldn't probably really want to go into.

1096
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:20,820
Because point or it just wouldn't be reliable.

1097
01:36:20,820 --> 01:36:30,000
I mean, we'll only reframe the question, have other jurisdictions been challenged on growth goals like this and and lost.

1098
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:45,040
I have not heard of any of any lawsuits around growth goals or being challenged on and and government's losing, but we, you know, we have a with measure J in place, you know, we have a pretty.

1099
01:36:47,620 --> 01:36:57,840
robust and specific code regarding how we address growth in this county that a lot of other jurisdictions to have.

1100
01:36:59,860 --> 01:37:00,200
Okay.

1101
01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:00,960
All right.

1102
01:37:01,660 --> 01:37:04,820
Maybe one last point of clarification.

1103
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:07,960
I know that the CZ rebuild our exempt.

1104
01:37:08,180 --> 01:37:10,620
If someone were to choose, you know,

1105
01:37:10,620 --> 01:37:12,940
maybe this is five years down the road,

1106
01:37:13,100 --> 01:37:15,620
we've seen, you know, worse case scenario,

1107
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:17,360
we continue to see natural disasters,

1108
01:37:18,300 --> 01:37:19,920
and so much it shows not to rebuild

1109
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:21,120
in the exact same location,

1110
01:37:21,300 --> 01:37:23,880
but rather in, that's had a different part of our county,

1111
01:37:24,700 --> 01:37:26,660
with that still fall under the exemption

1112
01:37:27,460 --> 01:37:28,580
from the growth cooler,

1113
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:31,420
but then count as a new unit that, you know,

1114
01:37:31,500 --> 01:37:32,800
mark the right unit.

1115
01:37:33,980 --> 01:37:36,920
You're saying it would be upside of this TZU in Pactateria?

1116
01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:47,100
Yeah, I based on our the way our resolution is where they don't think that that would apply. I think it would if it's outside of this year, it would not be exempt.

1117
01:37:50,850 --> 01:37:53,990
All right. Well, we'll cross those bridges and get back.

1118
01:37:54,230 --> 01:38:00,990
I think I think before going to supervisor friend, I need to formally close the public hearing. There's nobody else on the phone is that right.

1119
01:38:01,450 --> 01:38:06,890
Okay. I will close the public hearing and then continue our comments from board members. Supervisor friend.

1120
01:38:06,890 --> 01:38:12,710
I just appreciate the presentation. I know just a little questions. Actually, Supervisor Conegast,

1121
01:38:12,710 --> 01:38:14,890
a couple of things that were of interest. So I appreciate it.

1122
01:38:15,930 --> 01:38:16,650
Thank you. Two of the advisory.

1123
01:38:17,610 --> 01:38:22,250
And I'm sure, thank you. Thank you for the presentation and the report on a very useful.

1124
01:38:22,690 --> 01:38:30,890
Just two quick questions. One is it seems pretty obvious that at least in the city, there were like 5,000 students

1125
01:38:30,890 --> 01:38:34,130
or so will probably undercounted because the pandemic.

1126
01:38:35,590 --> 01:38:39,830
So the population numbers may not reflect the reality

1127
01:38:39,830 --> 01:38:43,390
where we're back into, can you have any idea

1128
01:38:44,510 --> 01:38:47,930
or sense of how the pandemic may have affected other

1129
01:38:47,930 --> 01:38:49,190
population counts?

1130
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:55,940
Yeah, I know specifically, like you mentioned,

1131
01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:59,540
we saw a negative 13% I believe.

1132
01:39:00,620 --> 01:39:02,620
Population growth in the city of Santa Cruz

1133
01:39:02,620 --> 01:39:19,500
And that was, I did reach out to the DLF to understand where the numbers come from and that was mostly attributed to the, the, you know, the pandemic and then the reason that the, the students were weren't here like they normally are.

1134
01:39:19,500 --> 01:39:23,600
Um, so you, he had to, but they attribute it to that to the, uh,

1135
01:39:24,340 --> 01:39:28,800
for the UC's, um, the students being missing. I don't know of any other,

1136
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:32,620
besides the, you know, increased death rate that they mentioned in the report.

1137
01:39:32,740 --> 01:39:38,400
I don't know any other specific populations that were impacted by COVID that might have changed these numbers.

1138
01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:39,440
And they do have estimates.

1139
01:39:40,260 --> 01:39:42,460
Now appreciate that. And, um,

1140
01:39:44,820 --> 01:39:48,960
My second very question was about the number of ADU applications.

1141
01:39:50,640 --> 01:39:58,880
Given that the state has liberalized rules, and we at the county have also tried to liberalize the creation of ADU's,

1142
01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:02,560
the numbers of ADU's didn't seem to reflect that.

1143
01:40:02,580 --> 01:40:08,120
Do you have a sense of what's going on and what we can do to increase ADU production?

1144
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:21,060
Yeah, I know that we saw, yeah, I know that we did see a slight increase in the last couple years.

1145
01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:33,620
You know, and since our rates now are in the high 30s, and that's commensurate to what we saw before the 2008 to 2010 housing crisis.

1146
01:40:33,620 --> 01:40:42,280
So the rates have increased significantly and I would say that we will probably continue to see that increase as permits move through our permitting system.

1147
01:40:42,980 --> 01:40:47,380
Okay, so there's nothing you're hearing that is a that is a barrier.

1148
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:59,740
Probably other than high materials construction costs right now, I know our bones fighting for the same limited number of contractors, but is there is there anything else that you're seeing.

1149
01:41:01,380 --> 01:41:20,380
You know, I think the people will be returning with the revised ADU ordinance next week to the board and whatever actions board can take to help keep these permits ministerial to help make the application process.

1150
01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:29,720
As easy as possible, we'll help to eliminate some of those barriers.

1151
01:41:30,180 --> 01:41:32,480
We'll also be returning to the board,

1152
01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:37,460
believe in December, to look at the three of report on the fewer

1153
01:41:37,460 --> 01:41:40,880
options that we did back then.

1154
01:41:41,900 --> 01:41:45,480
And the board will have an opportunity to look at whether to continue those

1155
01:41:45,480 --> 01:41:51,520
those exemptions and reductions, so all those things could could help, but we just

1156
01:41:52,220 --> 01:41:57,720
recommend not adding to the process in any way if they're all possible.

1157
01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:00,640
Thank you.

1158
01:42:00,920 --> 01:42:03,220
I think we should realize our gap in any questions.

1159
01:42:05,180 --> 01:42:06,660
Thank you for the report.

1160
01:42:07,340 --> 01:42:08,080
Pretty much everything.

1161
01:42:08,180 --> 01:42:08,560
Thank you.

1162
01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:09,760
Your microns.

1163
01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:10,400
Yeah.

1164
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:10,920
Yeah.

1165
01:42:11,140 --> 01:42:12,200
Thank you.

1166
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:14,380
Okay.

1167
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:19,080
Okay, we've close the public, I entertain a motion.

1168
01:42:19,140 --> 01:42:21,570
Thank you for your presentation, Ms. Williams, and

1169
01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:25,240
the entertainer motion on move the recommended actions.

1170
01:42:26,380 --> 01:42:26,400
Second.

1171
01:42:27,980 --> 01:42:28,520
Seconded.

1172
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:29,540
Please call the roll.

1173
01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:30,740
Supervisor Coneck.

1174
01:42:31,880 --> 01:42:32,240
Friends.

1175
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:34,080
Trinity.

1176
01:42:34,780 --> 01:42:35,020
Hi.

1177
01:42:35,660 --> 01:42:36,160
Tap it.

1178
01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:37,540
My first in.

1179
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:37,860
Hi.

1180
01:42:38,020 --> 01:42:39,000
Thank you, Mr. Passagina.

1181
01:42:39,300 --> 01:42:39,420
Honestly.

1182
01:42:40,760 --> 01:42:52,260
We will move to item number nine to conduct a steady session on the core investment stakeholder engagement and a request for proposals framework recommendations.

1183
01:42:53,080 --> 01:43:04,100
Direct the human services department to include associated allocations in the fiscal year 2022, 23 proposed budget and take related actions as outlined in a memorandum of the human services director.

1184
01:43:04,100 --> 01:43:10,200
We have some funding areas, a core engagement meetings, and survey, initial proposed funding

1185
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:15,260
allocation methods and distribution, core hybrid funding description.

1186
01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:17,140
Thank you.

1187
01:43:17,440 --> 01:43:19,260
This has been a really successful program.

1188
01:43:19,620 --> 01:43:22,860
Mr. Morris, our director of human resources.

1189
01:43:23,820 --> 01:43:26,220
Good morning, Chair McPherson board members.

1190
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:29,700
I'm Randy Morris, Director of the Human Services Department.

1191
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:31,780
And I'm going to be giving this morning's presentation.

1192
01:43:31,780 --> 01:43:37,860
but I want to recognize that I'm joined by Emily Bali, our Deputy Director, and sorry to

1193
01:43:37,860 --> 01:43:41,680
spring this on your Emily, but I think with her retirement this number this might be her last

1194
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:50,560
public presentation perhaps, so I just want to take a minute to thank her. I don't have any

1195
01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:56,300
authority to do so despite my efforts, but any I do want to Emily's here to help with question and

1196
01:43:56,300 --> 01:43:59,840
answer because she has been involved every step of the way in this process before I got here

1197
01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:02,100
since I've been here is real link to this street.

1198
01:44:02,260 --> 01:44:02,860
So thank you, Emily.

1199
01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:06,440
And before we bring the PowerPoint slide up,

1200
01:44:06,500 --> 01:44:09,700
I want to make a few introductory comments.

1201
01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:15,080
This effort in front of you today is the first time

1202
01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:16,600
we've been in front of you since February

1203
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:19,540
when we gave a study session update on this program.

1204
01:44:19,980 --> 01:44:21,480
And there's been a tremendous amount of work

1205
01:44:21,480 --> 01:44:22,860
that's been done by a lot of groups.

1206
01:44:22,860 --> 01:44:25,600
And I want to recognize, within our human services department,

1207
01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:27,140
a lot of the administrative staff,

1208
01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:29,260
particularly our finance staff and contract staff

1209
01:44:29,260 --> 01:44:32,760
who have done a lot of work in the COVID environment,

1210
01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:35,320
the fires, and with all the complexities of what

1211
01:44:35,320 --> 01:44:36,120
played all last few years.

1212
01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:38,820
And there's a lot of work they do to help this program move forward.

1213
01:44:40,100 --> 01:44:42,040
I also want to recognize this is a collaboration

1214
01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:43,400
with the city of Santa Cruz.

1215
01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:45,080
So the city of Santa Cruz, I believe,

1216
01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:46,180
is going to be watching in today.

1217
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:48,780
And I will be watching in at their council meeting this afternoon,

1218
01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:51,660
because we intentionally coordinate our efforts

1219
01:44:51,660 --> 01:44:53,420
with our legislative bodies, because this

1220
01:44:53,420 --> 01:44:55,160
is a collaboration with both bodies.

1221
01:44:55,960 --> 01:44:57,800
But I mostly want to highlight and recognize

1222
01:44:57,800 --> 01:44:59,680
any of our community-based organizations.

1223
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:19,660
That are listening in today and might choose to make public comment, because as you will hear, in the presentation today, the last many months we've spent a lot of time engaging in conversations with the providers who receive court funding and those who hope to apply for might not receive today and hopefully the spirit of that collaboration is woven through this presentation.

1224
01:45:21,200 --> 01:45:29,660
A few, a few quick comments, I want to make. I'm very mindful that I sit here a year and a half in as the human services director.

1225
01:45:29,660 --> 01:45:33,460
and this is a program that's been in existence for over three decades, so I think I'm probably

1226
01:45:33,460 --> 01:45:39,680
the fifth director, who is at a role in this program, and I just want to share some of my

1227
01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:45,100
observations over the last six months when I've really dug into this preparing for today and the

1228
01:45:45,100 --> 01:45:51,080
actions in front of you today. The most communities, most counties do not take all of their general

1229
01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:57,240
fund money and organize it in one big bucket and put it out to community providers. So in many

1230
01:45:57,240 --> 01:46:01,640
regards this is quite a gift to this community. Many communities spread it out, so it's more

1231
01:46:01,640 --> 01:46:08,060
diffused. But I also learned in the last many months what how many inherent challenges there are

1232
01:46:08,060 --> 01:46:13,240
in trying to figure out how to take a bit of money that's not enough to help the most role in

1233
01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:17,760
the broader community and put it out in a way that's most helpful. It's been very challenging and

1234
01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:23,220
hopefully what you hear today is our best efforts to make this some make sense. So what this topic

1235
01:46:23,220 --> 01:46:31,980
is about is the program core CORE is the acronym that refers to collective results in evidence-based

1236
01:46:31,980 --> 01:46:39,520
investments. This is the first effort after 30 years of a program called community programs

1237
01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:46,720
that shifted to in those words collective results in evidence-based. Identify that it shifted

1238
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:53,960
to a collective impact model, trying to get funders to all work under one framework, to build

1239
01:46:53,960 --> 01:47:00,700
in more results, and to have the programs built on more evidence-based and best-practice programs.

1240
01:47:02,580 --> 01:47:08,320
Today, this program represents $4.4 million of county general fund money.

1241
01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:15,980
There's also an additional 1 million plus of city of Santa Cruz money that lives in 83 different

1242
01:47:15,980 --> 01:47:19,960
programs through 44 different agencies throughout the community.

1243
01:47:20,440 --> 01:47:24,660
So it's a fairly large broad-based funding to help

1244
01:47:24,660 --> 01:47:28,580
community-based organizations help the most vulnerable in Santa Cruz County.

1245
01:47:29,340 --> 01:47:32,760
I would like to put that $4.4 million in perspective.

1246
01:47:34,220 --> 01:47:40,060
Our Department Human Services is about $175 million organization and we have

1247
01:47:40,060 --> 01:47:44,080
outside of core $34 million of contracts in the community.

1248
01:47:44,980 --> 01:47:50,480
Why I'm sharing that is, I feel it's really important to set expectations that as much

1249
01:47:50,480 --> 01:47:55,620
as $4 plus million is, we are by definition of safety net program and there are still

1250
01:47:55,620 --> 01:47:56,820
a lot of unmet needs.

1251
01:47:57,380 --> 01:48:01,300
So there's a lot of amazing things our community based organizations do, but I think it's very

1252
01:48:01,300 --> 01:48:05,520
fair to respect the work they do that this isn't enough money to solve all the issues,

1253
01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:10,040
but again, I think it is a great opportunity to have this money to put out into the community

1254
01:48:11,860 --> 01:48:38,280
So today, when we start the presentation, I want to share with you that we did our best effort in a very complicated time with a lot of crises going on to have a very robust and dynamic stakeholder process to get a lot of feedback from the community based organizations so that what's in front of you is a representation of our best efforts to think through how to move this effort forward based on and informed by conversation with the service provider network.

1255
01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:44,600
So, with those comments, Ms. Guerrero, if you could load up the PowerPoint, we'll sort of walk through.

1256
01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:50,180
And if you can just confirm for me to be able to forward, let's see.

1257
01:48:50,520 --> 01:48:51,360
Wait, where's your software?

1258
01:48:52,540 --> 01:48:53,520
Like in person?

1259
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:54,940
What's that?

1260
01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:55,680
Click the wheel.

1261
01:49:03,780 --> 01:49:04,640
It's not moving.

1262
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:05,560
You're going to help.

1263
01:49:05,740 --> 01:49:05,980
Thank you.

1264
01:49:06,740 --> 01:49:07,060
Okay.

1265
01:49:08,220 --> 01:49:10,260
So, today's agenda.

1266
01:49:10,260 --> 01:49:19,140
We're going to do a brief review of the process in timeline that's played out before we got here today and what we're looking out on the horizon.

1267
01:49:19,940 --> 01:49:25,120
We're then going to summarize the stakeholder engagement process and highlight who has participated.

1268
01:49:25,900 --> 01:49:35,700
And this all funnels into what's really in front of your board today, which is our recommendations for how to frame the next public procurement process to get feedback from you,

1269
01:49:35,700 --> 01:49:40,260
which then leads to the next steps which is to come back to your board in early November with

1270
01:49:40,260 --> 01:49:44,360
the actual RFP to be released next slide and thank you for the help.

1271
01:49:45,140 --> 01:49:50,460
So here's the summary of the time from I'm not going to read all these but in the spring,

1272
01:49:51,200 --> 01:49:55,760
we had agreed to move forward with your board support after we gave the study session to

1273
01:49:55,760 --> 01:50:02,040
get ready to release the RFP upcoming and we spent the summer going to the stakeholder process

1274
01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:03,860
which will describe in more detail in a minute.

1275
01:50:04,440 --> 01:50:07,360
And today is the beginning of the upper right, the fall,

1276
01:50:07,480 --> 01:50:08,660
which is September 28th,

1277
01:50:08,700 --> 01:50:10,060
we're in front of your board today,

1278
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:13,320
and the city will be in front of the city council this afternoon.

1279
01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:18,040
We then, in one of the things we've heard loud and clear

1280
01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:20,200
from our community-based partners,

1281
01:50:20,440 --> 01:50:22,660
is to really create a reasonable amount of time

1282
01:50:22,660 --> 01:50:25,020
for them to apply for these funds.

1283
01:50:25,220 --> 01:50:28,840
And so we are recommending that we release the RFP,

1284
01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:30,780
pending your board's approval in early November.

1285
01:50:30,780 --> 01:50:38,860
And ask for responses to be an early mid February to give a reasonable amount of time given the struggles the community based organizations are going through.

1286
01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:54,000
We'll then spend the spring reviewing them and then coming back to your board and the city will go to their council with recommendations hopefully to start the contracts July 1st for new contract term. So that's the basic timeline. Next slide. Thank you.

1287
01:50:55,800 --> 01:51:10,120
So, this is a picture of core, the picture of what the model is, and this is something just as a reminder your board has approved as a framework to use through the study sessions over the last many years.

1288
01:51:10,120 --> 01:51:11,960
so we continue to use this.

1289
01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:15,100
This was the level set that we used

1290
01:51:15,100 --> 01:51:18,740
for all the stakeholder engagement to remind everyone

1291
01:51:18,740 --> 01:51:21,620
that these are the core conditions of well-being

1292
01:51:21,620 --> 01:51:24,060
that we want to organize the programs around.

1293
01:51:24,820 --> 01:51:27,360
We highlighted that these are all interconnected,

1294
01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:29,340
since you can see all the dotted lines.

1295
01:51:29,900 --> 01:51:32,740
And that equity is, of course, front and center.

1296
01:51:33,600 --> 01:51:37,040
And in this network to help make sure

1297
01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:38,720
that we have a healthy and thriving community.

1298
01:51:38,720 --> 01:51:56,600
the next slide. So this is a little bit more information for your board and for anyone listening. There is an attachment to the materials, which gives a great summary of all of the stakeholder work that was done over the last many months.

1299
01:51:56,840 --> 01:52:05,840
And so I'm not going to go through this in detail because those materials are in attachments, but I do want to just highlight that career boards directive we did meet with funders.

1300
01:52:05,840 --> 01:52:10,560
We talked to all the city jurisdictions with one being a city of Santa Cruz who's participating

1301
01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:13,640
about potential for participating and joining in this effort formally.

1302
01:52:14,440 --> 01:52:19,040
Also foundations, we had meetings and you can see the numbers that were here.

1303
01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:23,500
Our partnership with the city of Santa Cruz, they have a community program committee that

1304
01:52:23,500 --> 01:52:27,920
they work with, a subset of their elected officials, three council members that we met with

1305
01:52:27,920 --> 01:52:28,820
as well.

1306
01:52:29,040 --> 01:52:33,220
We then had a number of community partner meetings and you can see the number of participants

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01:52:33,740 --> 01:52:34,780
that were involved.

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We then had a combined community partner and funder meeting and we also put out a survey to get responses for how we should prepare this framework that's in front of you today.

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And then in September just before this presentation, the core steering committee, which is existed throughout the life of corn the last three years met.

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We gave a presentation of the Human Service Commission and then we went back to the city of Santa Cruz committee in prep for their meeting today.

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So this is just to let you know that we have spent a lot of time

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01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:07,680
trying to get feedback and leave that feedback

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01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:08,940
into today's recommendations.

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So next slide.

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These were the two main questions we asked.

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01:53:15,440 --> 01:53:18,500
These are at the sort of at the center of what we're

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01:53:18,500 --> 01:53:21,540
going to be presenting to you today, which is how can we use this framework,

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01:53:21,740 --> 01:53:26,660
the core conditions of well-being, to make decisions about how to put

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01:53:26,660 --> 01:53:28,280
this money out into the community.

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01:53:28,960 --> 01:53:31,920
And second, how can we make sure equity remains

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01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:36,440
at the center and how do you actually operationalize that. So that was what was discussed in all of these

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01:53:36,440 --> 01:53:37,940
stakeholder efforts. Next slide.

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01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:46,660
What we heard, the first one, a variety of ideas that might be a

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01:53:46,660 --> 01:53:53,740
little bit euphemistic for it was very, very difficult to find consensus. I think we walked away with

1325
01:53:53,740 --> 01:53:59,060
an understanding that there are many ways to look at how to recommend to your board to put money

1326
01:53:59,060 --> 01:54:03,100
to the community, given there's so many unmet needs and so many populations

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01:54:04,060 --> 01:54:09,600
deserving. And I appreciated the many comments from our community-based providers

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01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:15,140
recognizing that this is not an easy task to organize this to take $4 plus million dollars

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01:54:15,140 --> 01:54:21,100
to help the community. Some of the detailed feedback we got is there was a great

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01:54:21,100 --> 01:54:25,540
appreciation of community organizations who experienced philanthropic foundations

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01:54:25,540 --> 01:54:31,660
creating more streamlined applications. I would say every service provider was all in on the issue

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01:54:31,660 --> 01:54:36,140
of equity and very eager to work with us and be a participant in this conversation so that

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01:54:36,140 --> 01:54:43,340
any of this money helps address inequities in the community. There was a very strong push for

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01:54:43,340 --> 01:54:55,520
as much transparency and clarity as possible and a request for technical assistance so that the

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01:54:55,520 --> 01:55:10,240
Because all of that was build up to say to give you history and background to say this is what we have staff are recommending to your board and this is what we're asking you to say yes or no to today and this is what we're inviting the community providers who might make public comment to share their perspectives on this.

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And then after today's presentation we'll then work on writing the RFP based on if this framework is agreeable to you.

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01:55:18,360 --> 01:55:28,700
So the first recommendation is we want to have a contract term of three years, this allows us to reset this funding cycle to match with the county's two year budget cycle.

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And then core funding.

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01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:49,340
So I mentioned in my introduction we currently have $4.4 million and these are four specific actions that we're recommending your board take, which are kind of the ins and outs that then move the base funding from $4.4 million to just shy of $4.8 million.

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01:55:49,560 --> 01:55:51,580
And I'm going to take just a minute to talk through each of these.

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01:55:52,280 --> 01:56:08,640
So the first is your board prior to my appointment here, had directed the county and the Human Services Department to allocate $150,000 to have a program called SETA side and it was small grants through a different process in the actual procurement cycle.

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So we are recommending that that money be reallocated and built into the core base funding and you'll see when we get to the tiered investment strategy how that sort of folds into what we're recommending.

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Number two is a very specific action because right before the end of the before this presentation a couple months ago a program ran by encompass the core housing pathways program shut down

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01:56:33,120 --> 01:56:49,920
It's actually ran at river street and so we've coordinated with encompass and they're welcome to a comment if they disagree or agree during public comment if they'd like but we are recommending because the program no longer exists at $75,000 be put back into the core funding base at $25,000 a year.

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Number three, the senior's council is the local nonprofit organization that runs the area agency on aging and we have detailed and the report the specifics of why and I'm not going to go through all of them, but it has been my experience that this is an absolute orange compared to the apples of all of the core programs that we run.

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It is a 100% administrative program.

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01:57:15,900 --> 01:57:18,740
It is a federal and state mandated entity,

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and it is required to draw base funding

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01:57:21,660 --> 01:57:23,100
to draw that federal and state money.

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So just sits aside and different from all the other programs.

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01:57:26,420 --> 01:57:28,320
So we're recommending the current contract

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01:57:28,320 --> 01:57:31,060
that seniors council has of $131,000.

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01:57:31,420 --> 01:57:34,240
Be removed from the base and be reallocated

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01:57:34,240 --> 01:57:37,200
to human services for a direct contract to work with them.

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01:57:37,540 --> 01:57:40,220
And then the final is in collaboration

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01:57:40,220 --> 01:57:46,080
with the CAO's office. We have been authorized to share our recommendation. This would all be pending

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01:57:46,080 --> 01:57:50,800
your boards approval during the budget cycle, but at least for planning purposes that we increase

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01:57:50,800 --> 01:57:57,640
the core base by $500,000. Like most grants we receive as human services when we apply to federal

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01:57:57,640 --> 01:58:01,760
and state grants were used to getting grants that I've stayed flat for two or three or four years,

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so this is kind of the normal way funding works. But we also recognize a program that's been

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01:58:09,620 --> 01:58:11,980
to talk about a meaningful face increase.

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So $500,000 is our recommendation.

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So next slide.

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So this is where I mentioned the set aside reference.

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We are recommending that we use the current spread

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of core funding grants that we have today,

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01:58:29,310 --> 01:58:31,790
which fall into kind of small medium and large buckets,

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if you will, by keeping a tier of small grants

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in the five to twenty five thousand dollar range for the procurement, but that's where we

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01:58:42,870 --> 01:58:49,370
fold the set aside funds into. And then maintaining a tier of medium sized grants and

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large size grants. One of the things we heard from the state stakeholder efforts was that

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01:58:56,010 --> 01:59:00,670
the community-based organizations appreciated particularly for small grant amounts having very

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01:59:00,670 --> 01:59:06,490
small, streamlined application processes, and we do want to disclose, we mentioned it in the

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01:59:06,490 --> 01:59:11,150
member that we are in conversation with the community foundation. We have a meeting later this week

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01:59:11,830 --> 01:59:17,890
to explore whether or not we have a sort of an alignment of some of their funding to add to our

1376
01:59:17,890 --> 01:59:22,270
funding to work together on these small grants and if so we'll be able to increase the amount of money

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01:59:22,270 --> 01:59:26,050
and we want to know that until we go through our process but hopefully when we come back to

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01:59:26,050 --> 01:59:30,290
November we'll be able to confirm if we indeed have some augmentation through community foundation

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01:59:30,290 --> 01:59:31,230
partnership.

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So we'll go to the next slide, which is where we're going to recommend how we organize the funding. And if your board approves this approach, it would not only be a small medium and large, but I'll call it an extra large by adding one seven hundred and fifty thousand dollar deeper investment opportunity. I just want to take a minute to explain why we've listed these three options here.

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These three options are

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02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:05,620
Our representative of the dialogue with our community-based partners and funders, and I just want

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02:00:05,620 --> 02:00:08,960
to take a minute to name each and tell you why we're recommending the hybrid approach.

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02:00:10,440 --> 02:00:18,560
I targeted. There was some appetite in the conversation about looking at switching from a broad-based

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02:00:18,560 --> 02:00:22,300
funding approach where there's a lot of money spread out in a lot of ways and a question

1386
02:00:22,300 --> 02:00:27,360
whether or not that's really having an impact given it's not enough money. And whether or not we need

1387
02:00:27,360 --> 02:00:32,380
really just get bold and just shift to just two or three very very large grants to really

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02:00:32,380 --> 02:00:37,540
make a dent on some very serious issues in the community. But we sort of agreed as staff and

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02:00:37,540 --> 02:00:41,560
with our partners that were sort of not at the place to really be able to recommend to your board

1390
02:00:41,560 --> 02:00:46,340
where would we target such a small money? And the impact that would have on a lot of these community-based

1391
02:00:46,340 --> 02:00:51,040
organizations who from these small and medium grants is really meaningful for them. So we are not

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02:00:51,040 --> 02:00:56,260
recommending this, but we wanted to share that this was the topic of consideration and actually

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02:00:56,260 --> 02:00:58,660
feeds into why we have the hybrid approaches our recommendation.

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02:01:00,200 --> 02:01:03,200
The second is to really sort of keep the funding as is.

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02:01:03,240 --> 02:01:04,620
Keep the funding very broad.

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02:01:05,700 --> 02:01:09,320
And we as staff felt like that is not moving the effort forward.

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02:01:10,020 --> 02:01:13,160
We understand and appreciate that a broad based approach is helpful,

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02:01:13,460 --> 02:01:16,600
but there's also been plenty of recognition that we really need to consider

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02:01:16,600 --> 02:01:20,080
targeting money to have a deeper impact in some places,

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02:01:20,260 --> 02:01:22,260
which leads to why we're recommending number three.

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02:01:22,260 --> 02:01:28,320
And number three, the hybrid approach keeps the broad approach spreads the money around

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02:01:28,320 --> 02:01:33,460
and small medium large, but sort of carves off a little bit of money to create one large

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02:01:33,460 --> 02:01:36,080
$750,000 deeper investment.

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02:01:37,020 --> 02:01:42,180
We would look at this as an opportunity to let our community partners tell us where they think

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02:01:42,180 --> 02:01:47,040
some of the biggest issues are, where the biggest need is through the application process.

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02:01:47,980 --> 02:02:03,180
we'd encourage collaboration. This wouldn't have to be one organization. We'd be much more specific in this approach to having equity and racial equity be at the center of something that this money would be worked on and really look at root causes of issues.

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And Ms. Cabrera, if you could click on the blue hyperlink, because this takes us to this is in the attached materials, but we just wanted to let you see visually.

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02:02:15,020 --> 02:02:21,500
But this is how the money would be spread around if your board approves this approach and this would then be built in the RFP will bring back to November.

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02:02:22,920 --> 02:02:36,180
small medium and large if shows how much county funding which totals to our 4.799 and then you can see the cities funding which in their public materials for their meeting this afternoon is at 1 million plus.

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02:02:36,660 --> 02:02:42,540
And you can see that taking 750,000 dollars leaves the amount of money that are listed here.

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02:02:42,660 --> 02:02:44,600
So just wanted to highlight that for the community and your board.

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02:02:44,780 --> 02:02:47,220
That's what we're recommending for your consideration.

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02:02:47,220 --> 02:02:50,440
And if so, this is how it organized the funding and the RFP.

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02:02:51,120 --> 02:02:52,580
So if you could, yes, thank you.

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02:02:52,840 --> 02:02:55,600
So then the next slide, which is our last slide.

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02:02:56,980 --> 02:02:59,620
So here are the proposed next steps.

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I specifically want to make sure any of the community-based organizations

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02:03:03,660 --> 02:03:07,060
listening that have a lot of outstanding questions

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02:03:07,060 --> 02:03:10,420
about how are we going to recommend in the RFP.

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02:03:10,420 --> 02:03:13,640
The application process will look like, how will we make sure it's

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02:03:13,640 --> 02:03:16,840
very clear what sort of TA is going to be available to them,

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02:03:16,840 --> 02:03:21,380
we're going to organize rating panels and make sure the award-deplunding decisions are fair.

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02:03:22,660 --> 02:03:27,780
We will build all of the answers to those questions in the RFP, but we want to create the stakeholder

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02:03:27,780 --> 02:03:32,700
process one more time to hear from the community-based organizations directly. We also want

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02:03:32,700 --> 02:03:36,660
your board to know that if you get calls and if there's public comment today, this is a place we

1426
02:03:36,660 --> 02:03:41,360
say. We see as an opportunity to sit down and talk this through. We think we developed some very

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02:03:41,360 --> 02:03:44,760
good conversations and a good spirit of collaboration

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02:03:44,760 --> 02:03:45,980
in those stakeholder meetings.

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02:03:46,260 --> 02:03:48,200
And we see no reason why we won't work together

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02:03:48,200 --> 02:03:49,960
to come up with the answers to those questions

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02:03:49,960 --> 02:03:51,720
and build those into the RFP itself.

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02:03:52,540 --> 02:03:54,700
We're proposing, and it's one of the recommendations

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02:03:54,700 --> 02:03:57,240
for your board to direct us to return on November 9th

1434
02:03:57,240 --> 02:03:59,700
with the actual RFP itself that gives your board

1435
02:03:59,700 --> 02:04:02,120
one more opportunity to give us feedback

1436
02:04:02,120 --> 02:04:04,000
before the RFP's released.

1437
02:04:04,600 --> 02:04:06,900
And I do want to let your board know

1438
02:04:06,900 --> 02:04:16,960
When we return to your board to accept the recommended actions in the spring, that's yet one more opportunity for you to give direction and make adjustments.

1439
02:04:17,800 --> 02:04:29,160
So just want to be clear today does create a trajectory but it does not limit your opportunity as our elected officials to make recommendations and adjust where things are going throughout the process.

1440
02:04:29,160 --> 02:04:39,360
I mentioned earlier proposals do early mid February and then we would be back in front of your board in May in the City Council in May with the recommendations and then start contracts in July.

1441
02:04:41,060 --> 02:04:49,660
So, I believe that ends the formal presentation and I turn it back to your board and we and will in our here for any questions and look forward to public comment and your questions.

1442
02:04:49,660 --> 02:04:51,740
I'll ask for any public comment.

1443
02:04:51,900 --> 02:04:53,980
Is there any public comment?

1444
02:04:54,720 --> 02:04:55,540
You're seeing none.

1445
02:04:55,680 --> 02:04:56,400
Is there any on the phone?

1446
02:04:56,520 --> 02:04:56,780
Yes.

1447
02:04:56,860 --> 02:04:57,460
I do have several.

1448
02:04:58,960 --> 02:04:59,480
I'm soon.

1449
02:04:59,780 --> 02:05:00,980
Ellen, you're one story.

1450
02:05:01,180 --> 02:05:02,100
Your microphone is available.

1451
02:05:03,840 --> 02:05:04,600
Thank you.

1452
02:05:04,860 --> 02:05:06,200
Good morning, chair, and supervisors.

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02:05:06,660 --> 02:05:07,720
I'm Helen, you and story.

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02:05:07,920 --> 02:05:10,840
Assistant Director for the Community Action Board of Santa Cruz County.

1455
02:05:11,520 --> 02:05:15,300
As you know, CAB has been the county's designated community action agency,

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02:05:15,660 --> 02:05:16,940
tasked with eliminating poverty,

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02:05:16,940 --> 02:05:20,200
in creating social change for over 55 years.

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02:05:20,460 --> 02:05:25,980
We serve over 10,000 low-income individuals annually through youth and adult employment services,

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02:05:26,740 --> 02:05:33,100
immigration legal and advocacy services, community building, and homelessness prevention and intervention services.

1460
02:05:33,780 --> 02:05:39,300
Cap has been actively engaged in the evolution of the core investments framework over the last four years,

1461
02:05:39,900 --> 02:05:43,860
with our executive director Marlene Delegarsis sitting on the core steering committee.

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02:05:43,860 --> 02:05:50,840
And I and my cab colleagues with me today attending many core conversations and partner meetings over the years.

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02:05:51,560 --> 02:06:00,260
We've greatly appreciated the level of stakeholder engagement in the process, as well as the attention and commitment to increasing equity through the core framework.

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02:06:00,260 --> 02:06:06,800
CAHPS supports the HSD staff recommendation, including to increase the overall level funding

1465
02:06:06,800 --> 02:06:12,480
for the core base allocation and the option 3 allocation method that will support both

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02:06:12,480 --> 02:06:17,860
broad safety net service funding as well as a deeper investment in an equity initiative.

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02:06:18,840 --> 02:06:22,740
CAHPS looks forward to continuing to partner with the county and our many fellow community

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02:06:22,740 --> 02:06:28,300
base partners through the core process in order to support a more equitable community where

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02:06:28,300 --> 02:06:30,720
all can thrive. Thank you.

1470
02:06:34,570 --> 02:06:35,150
Thank you.

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02:06:35,370 --> 02:06:36,370
Your microphone is available.

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02:06:41,100 --> 02:06:42,000
Hi, supervisors.

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02:06:43,080 --> 02:06:48,500
I wanted to say thanks to staff and for your consideration of the recommendation to

1474
02:06:48,500 --> 02:06:51,300
fund the AAA through a separate process.

1475
02:06:51,920 --> 02:06:53,520
You've heard me talk about this before.

1476
02:06:53,720 --> 02:06:56,160
If we don't do it, somebody else has to do it.

1477
02:06:56,300 --> 02:06:58,440
And really the board of supervisors become

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02:06:58,440 --> 02:07:01,060
that a fault entity to look at.

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02:07:01,740 --> 02:07:04,380
So we think this investment is a good one.

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02:07:04,380 --> 02:07:12,460
it saves the county of a variety of funds and expenses, but also allows us to react quickly if there's

1481
02:07:13,320 --> 02:07:18,680
community needs or needs facing older adults. So if there's any questions about that, I want to

1482
02:07:18,680 --> 02:07:24,400
be here to answer those and also just share that this is the perfect time to do this. That's

1483
02:07:24,400 --> 02:07:30,640
as most of you know, the senior population over the last decade is grown by about 50% in the state

1484
02:07:30,640 --> 02:07:33,320
and even greater in Santa Cruz County.

1485
02:07:33,820 --> 02:07:37,460
And the under 50 population is grown by about 1%.

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02:07:37,460 --> 02:07:42,040
So we truly are at a just explosion of older adults right now

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02:07:42,040 --> 02:07:44,880
and with that goes more demand for older adult services.

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02:07:45,780 --> 02:07:47,480
So the timing fits perfectly.

1489
02:07:48,120 --> 02:07:52,260
And it goes a long ways towards stabilizing our organization

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02:07:52,260 --> 02:07:53,320
in our role.

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02:07:53,740 --> 02:07:55,560
So we're thrilled about it.

1492
02:07:56,080 --> 02:07:58,780
And also I just want to echo and support the things

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02:07:58,780 --> 02:08:01,160
that Helen, you and the story just said.

1494
02:08:01,460 --> 02:08:04,240
But just add that age is also an equity issue,

1495
02:08:04,720 --> 02:08:06,440
and looking forward to working together

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02:08:06,440 --> 02:08:09,480
with all of you and staff to address those challenges.

1497
02:08:12,700 --> 02:08:14,060
Are there speakers on Tim?

1498
02:08:14,560 --> 02:08:16,940
Hey, I'll bring it back to the board.

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02:08:17,200 --> 02:08:19,080
This is just a supervisor Cuderdee.

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02:08:20,820 --> 02:08:21,580
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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02:08:21,780 --> 02:08:23,820
I just want to appreciate staff's work.

1502
02:08:24,400 --> 02:08:26,840
And the outreach they've done across the community

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02:08:26,840 --> 02:08:30,040
in a challenging time for both our partners

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02:08:30,040 --> 02:08:33,140
to provide services for those need as well,

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02:08:33,520 --> 02:08:37,400
for county staff to respond to COVID and fires

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02:08:37,400 --> 02:08:39,120
and everything else going on.

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02:08:39,360 --> 02:08:40,720
When we reform this process,

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02:08:40,880 --> 02:08:42,320
there were essentially three goals,

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02:08:42,600 --> 02:08:45,120
one was to get more outcomes,

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02:08:45,520 --> 02:08:48,220
a better outcome driven process for both these funds

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02:08:48,220 --> 02:08:51,000
as well, Director Morris mentioned,

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02:08:51,320 --> 02:08:53,880
the other millions of millions of more dollars

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02:08:53,880 --> 02:08:55,020
that the county spends.

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02:08:55,020 --> 02:09:08,320
The second one was to be able to evaluate and fund new and emerging needs instead of just sort of rolling it over on a more ongoing basis.

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02:09:09,640 --> 02:09:14,680
And finally the last piece was to coordinate across jurisdictions as well as other funders.

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02:09:15,200 --> 02:09:18,980
And I think I appreciate the work that's been done to reach those three goals.

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02:09:18,980 --> 02:09:25,300
this is an ongoing process and we'll need to be updated, you know, every cycle in order to make sure

1518
02:09:25,300 --> 02:09:29,140
with the continue to reach those goals and more importantly, meet the needs of community,

1519
02:09:29,400 --> 02:09:35,200
but I want to appreciate the efforts that have been done thus far, and I look forward to supporting this

1520
02:09:35,200 --> 02:09:40,620
going forward. Thank you. Supervisor Coonerty, or excuse me, Captain.

1521
02:09:43,630 --> 02:09:44,350
Thank you, Chairman.

1522
02:09:46,150 --> 02:09:54,590
You know, you put a lot of work in this and I think we've improved in a little bit and I want to commend you on that.

1523
02:09:56,790 --> 02:10:06,910
Thank you. I've gotten community input and people seem to be like accepting the

1524
02:10:10,210 --> 02:10:11,770
So, thank you very much.

1525
02:10:13,250 --> 02:10:13,910
Thank you.

1526
02:10:14,250 --> 02:10:14,910
Thank you.

1527
02:10:16,210 --> 02:10:16,710
Thank you chair.

1528
02:10:16,890 --> 02:10:19,410
I just want to express my appreciation to Deputy Director Bolly.

1529
02:10:20,610 --> 02:10:22,730
And wish you well in your next chapter.

1530
02:10:23,230 --> 02:10:25,250
And thank you, Director Morris, as well.

1531
02:10:25,450 --> 02:10:27,830
It's clear that the two of you have done a great job listening to the community.

1532
02:10:28,490 --> 02:10:34,050
I totally agree with all your recommendations to the first five but the size of the different

1533
02:10:34,050 --> 02:10:38,570
investments, as well as to separate out the one that doesn't look like the others, the

1534
02:10:38,570 --> 02:10:43,930
area agency on aging, and I look forward to supporting this.

1535
02:10:46,450 --> 02:10:52,770
The Board of Supervisors for years ago approved this approach to be getting a process of really

1536
02:10:52,770 --> 02:10:58,150
aligning the investments to the real needs of the community-based programs and the county

1537
02:10:58,150 --> 02:10:59,790
strategic objectives.

1538
02:11:00,690 --> 02:11:02,830
The staff throws a little to evolve the core.

1539
02:11:03,250 --> 02:11:07,290
Funding model in the next phase is really, really welcome.

1540
02:11:07,710 --> 02:11:09,750
I really want to thank you for your outreach efforts.

1541
02:11:10,150 --> 02:11:13,170
And I want to also commend the community-based organizations

1542
02:11:13,170 --> 02:11:15,230
who've participated so much in this.

1543
02:11:15,330 --> 02:11:18,690
I know they're invaluable with what they have.

1544
02:11:18,730 --> 02:11:22,090
And I also want to thank the CEO and the Director of Human Services

1545
02:11:22,090 --> 02:11:26,670
for creating a regular budget line for to provide local match

1546
02:11:26,670 --> 02:11:29,470
for the agency on the aging.

1547
02:11:30,410 --> 02:11:35,710
One question I have, equity is a real big issue today.

1548
02:11:37,070 --> 02:11:38,150
I'm just concerned, I mean,

1549
02:11:38,150 --> 02:11:40,530
I think equity and age is one of them,

1550
02:11:40,530 --> 02:11:42,350
as was mentioned by Mr. Camp,

1551
02:11:42,850 --> 02:11:44,530
but how are we gonna measure

1552
02:11:44,530 --> 02:11:46,470
if we're doing a better job in that regard?

1553
02:11:46,650 --> 02:11:50,570
Is there a measurements that we were only giving so much

1554
02:11:50,570 --> 02:11:52,550
to seniors and now we're giving more,

1555
02:11:52,550 --> 02:12:00,510
Or what's I'm just, it's probably, it's going to be in the process that you're going to be going through in the next few months.

1556
02:12:01,150 --> 02:12:10,090
But I just want to, I think we have tried to be equitable in the first place, so I just want to know how we're going to improve on that.

1557
02:12:10,950 --> 02:12:21,350
The excellent question, it's a necessary question and question in the moment that I think all public systems who put public funds out are being challenged to be more specific.

1558
02:12:21,350 --> 02:12:24,810
It's an easy word to use.

1559
02:12:25,470 --> 02:12:31,930
The short answer is we will talk about how to operationalize equity and track equity in what

1560
02:12:31,930 --> 02:12:34,750
we bring forward to in November 9th.

1561
02:12:34,890 --> 02:12:39,690
I do want to give some recognition to the community-based organizations who I didn't say

1562
02:12:39,690 --> 02:12:42,670
in the presentation in the interest of keeping that kind of succinct.

1563
02:12:43,370 --> 02:12:47,930
That was a very active part of the conversation, which is how do we operationalize equity

1564
02:12:47,930 --> 02:12:49,710
and we've got some great feedback from them.

1565
02:12:49,710 --> 02:12:54,390
So part of what we want to do is strike the right balance of listening to our community-based

1566
02:12:54,390 --> 02:12:59,330
organizations tell us in the application what they see as inequities in the community,

1567
02:12:59,950 --> 02:13:05,130
how they see they will address those inequities and how they think is reasonable with whatever

1568
02:13:05,130 --> 02:13:09,230
funding they're awarded to be able to show progress on addressing inequity issues.

1569
02:13:09,450 --> 02:13:14,050
So I think we just want to have a reasonable respect and difference to our service providers

1570
02:13:14,050 --> 02:13:17,150
who know the answer to that question from what they're seeing in the community.

1571
02:13:17,150 --> 02:13:37,070
I think what's at the guts of the challenge here is, and the reason I gave the numbers that were 175 million dollar organization by definition, we are completely a safety net program, and there is still suffering in the community, is to try to be realistic that, if this is what goes forward, five million dollars isn't going to solve the issues of equity in the community.

1572
02:13:37,070 --> 02:13:43,810
So, I think we're just going to have to be realistic, concrete, and respect the perspective

1573
02:13:43,810 --> 02:13:48,190
our service providers have in their experience in the application process and setting up

1574
02:13:48,190 --> 02:13:53,850
the scope of work so that we can track the answer to question how is progress being made.

1575
02:13:54,250 --> 02:13:56,070
Yeah, I want to thank you for doing that.

1576
02:13:56,630 --> 02:13:58,810
And it's a big issue.

1577
02:13:59,710 --> 02:14:02,790
Countywide Statewide Nationwide, and I think it would be good.

1578
02:14:02,790 --> 02:14:05,050
When we come in with the final report, just to say,

1579
02:14:05,290 --> 02:14:10,330
to specify how we're trying to under these hearings that you're going to have and recommendations

1580
02:14:10,330 --> 02:14:17,350
that you're going to receive that we're fulfilling our obligation for more equity,

1581
02:14:18,050 --> 02:14:18,870
the best of our ability.

1582
02:14:19,710 --> 02:14:23,150
And I appreciate your efforts, but be interesting.

1583
02:14:23,610 --> 02:14:28,290
And lastly, I just want to thank Emily Bolly for her services for so many years for the county.

1584
02:14:28,330 --> 02:14:29,530
It's been much appreciated.

1585
02:14:29,530 --> 02:14:34,430
what a professional approach that you take to so many different issues of human services.

1586
02:14:34,730 --> 02:14:36,570
So thank you very much.

1587
02:14:37,650 --> 02:14:39,750
Does you have a, yes, Mr. Frank.

1588
02:14:39,850 --> 02:14:40,610
Yes, Mr. Frank.

1589
02:14:41,230 --> 02:14:41,690
Yeah, thank you.

1590
02:14:42,050 --> 02:14:46,450
And thank you to also to Ms. Molly for your outstanding service for so long.

1591
02:14:46,570 --> 02:14:47,770
And I appreciate this presentation.

1592
02:14:48,090 --> 02:14:53,850
You know, we've come a long way in the last four or five years compared to the previous 30 in front of that.

1593
02:14:54,370 --> 02:14:56,930
And for those of us that served on the board for a little while,

1594
02:14:56,930 --> 02:14:59,970
I think it's very telling that we don't have a reep.

1595
02:15:01,380 --> 02:15:13,840
Community Service providers disappointed with the approach that the board is taking right now, which I think is very telling in the fact that the modifications that we made to the program, there's a lot of concerns, four or five years ago, and we went through this process.

1596
02:15:14,560 --> 02:15:24,900
And valid concerns, understanding that the change could be hard, as Supervisor Kennedy noted, the board had a set of goals, and I believe that we're getting closer now to those goals with what's being presented.

1597
02:15:24,900 --> 02:15:28,180
And today I also appreciate the tiered system.

1598
02:15:28,320 --> 02:15:29,980
I think it cleans up from the set aside

1599
02:15:29,980 --> 02:15:32,580
to what the Ford's real goal was was just ensuring

1600
02:15:32,580 --> 02:15:37,240
that some of the smaller or greater change programs

1601
02:15:37,240 --> 02:15:40,100
that may not have either the resources for an application

1602
02:15:40,100 --> 02:15:41,600
or maybe they just need a small amount of money

1603
02:15:41,600 --> 02:15:43,100
or maybe there's a small emerging need

1604
02:15:43,100 --> 02:15:44,960
can be addressed more quickly.

1605
02:15:45,020 --> 02:15:48,020
It seems like that this provides greater flexibility

1606
02:15:48,020 --> 02:15:49,940
than the board had actually done previously

1607
02:15:50,520 --> 02:15:52,280
by locking in a very specific number

1608
02:15:52,280 --> 02:15:54,300
in a very specific process.

1609
02:15:54,300 --> 02:15:59,160
I think that having that flexibility to emerging needs, having the flexibility that you can

1610
02:15:59,160 --> 02:16:03,360
base the amounts that are being awarded functionally on not just need, but the number

1611
02:16:03,360 --> 02:16:07,040
of applications and the amount that people are asking for is important.

1612
02:16:07,840 --> 02:16:12,740
And I think this is overall shift meets the board schools, but more importantly, the board

1613
02:16:12,740 --> 02:16:16,940
schools are always tied to the community need and just ensuring that this might help address

1614
02:16:16,940 --> 02:16:17,600
that.

1615
02:16:17,740 --> 02:16:23,440
Recognizing as a director more said, there never will be an investment that's enough, and as I've

1616
02:16:23,440 --> 02:16:28,740
and every budget meeting in regards to core, I think our goals should be one day or such

1617
02:16:28,740 --> 02:16:33,000
such funding for programs and these programs and cells aren't needed because ultimately

1618
02:16:33,000 --> 02:16:37,520
they're providing a safety net because we're failing in other areas in our world and it's

1619
02:16:37,520 --> 02:16:41,240
so ideally we'd be able to invest in a way on the front end where these wouldn't be needed,

1620
02:16:41,400 --> 02:16:45,240
but I definitely appreciate those that are doing the work to ensure that we can prop up that net

1621
02:16:45,240 --> 02:16:49,340
for those that desperately need it right now. I'm fully supported to this and appreciate the work

1622
02:16:49,340 --> 02:16:50,840
It's been done.

1623
02:16:51,400 --> 02:16:51,760
Thank you.

1624
02:16:52,280 --> 02:16:54,480
This is a study session, but I think it'd be

1625
02:16:54,480 --> 02:16:56,780
a formally we should accept the report

1626
02:16:56,780 --> 02:17:00,200
that from human services to have a motion to accept.

1627
02:17:00,520 --> 02:17:01,760
I'll move the recommended actions.

1628
02:17:04,420 --> 02:17:06,820
Second, second, but community, please hold the roll.

1629
02:17:07,040 --> 02:17:07,980
Supervisor Coneg.

1630
02:17:08,540 --> 02:17:09,440
Hi, friends.

1631
02:17:11,500 --> 02:17:11,760
Hi.

1632
02:17:12,260 --> 02:17:12,720
Apped?

1633
02:17:12,920 --> 02:17:13,240
Hi.

1634
02:17:13,420 --> 02:17:13,920
McPherson?

1635
02:17:14,280 --> 02:17:14,500
Hi.

1636
02:17:14,640 --> 02:17:16,260
Thank you, Motion Passage Jan, Ms. Lake.

1637
02:17:17,040 --> 02:17:18,820
Thank you very much for your hard work.

1638
02:17:18,820 --> 02:17:26,220
and outreach. Item number 10 is to consider recycling and solid waste services progress

1639
02:17:26,220 --> 02:17:31,740
report on zero waste planning and direct public, public works department to return by September

1640
02:17:31,740 --> 02:17:37,300
2022 with a recycling and solid waste long-term planning progress report and direct public

1641
02:17:37,300 --> 02:17:43,380
works to return by February 2022 with recommendations for proceeding with a protest vote

1642
02:17:43,380 --> 02:17:49,460
to increase the county's CSA-9C assessment and to return with the report on the community support

1643
02:17:49,460 --> 02:17:54,280
for allowing the county to collect a percentage of single-use cup and single-use bag

1644
02:17:54,280 --> 02:17:59,940
charge fees as outlined in the memorandum of the Deputy CAO and Director of Public Works.

1645
02:18:01,460 --> 02:18:06,940
Today we have Mr. Ken Eller, the Assistant Director of Public Works Special Services, Mr. Eller.

1646
02:18:07,440 --> 02:18:11,440
Good morning, Chair. And board members, I, Chair McPherson said,

1647
02:18:11,440 --> 02:18:13,740
I am Kent Edler, Assistant Director of Public Works.

1648
02:18:13,800 --> 02:18:16,300
I have with me today to my right, Casey Colossas,

1649
02:18:16,840 --> 02:18:19,080
who is the recycling and solid waste services manager

1650
02:18:19,080 --> 02:18:20,100
for public works.

1651
02:18:20,700 --> 02:18:22,260
And also to my left is Go Hawksford,

1652
02:18:22,440 --> 02:18:24,500
who is our recycling and solid waste analyst.

1653
02:18:25,060 --> 02:18:26,620
And so we're going to give an update today

1654
02:18:26,620 --> 02:18:28,440
on the recycling and solid waste program.

1655
02:18:28,500 --> 02:18:31,260
There's a lot of things going on with recycling and solid waste.

1656
02:18:31,380 --> 02:18:33,440
So we want to come here and provide an update.

1657
02:18:35,100 --> 02:18:39,020
So quickly, outline, we're going to go through some of our accomplishments

1658
02:18:39,020 --> 02:18:53,180
So, over the past few years, current programs, future initiatives, we'll talk a little better about SB 1383 implementation, which is really affecting all recycling and solid ways agencies throughout the state.

1659
02:18:53,700 --> 02:19:01,780
Talk about some planning for the eventual closure of the landfill, some current expenses, then we'll get into future needs and future revenue options.

1660
02:19:03,500 --> 02:19:04,300
Next slide.

1661
02:19:04,300 --> 02:19:05,460
The

1662
02:19:08,660 --> 02:19:10,100
case is going to go over the accomplishments.

1663
02:19:11,280 --> 02:19:14,300
Is one of the accomplishments for our initiative?

1664
02:19:18,640 --> 02:19:20,000
Regarding the accomplishments,

1665
02:19:20,700 --> 02:19:23,960
the board has approved ordinances to reduce single use items,

1666
02:19:24,060 --> 02:19:25,660
such as bags, cups,

1667
02:19:26,280 --> 02:19:28,900
takeoutware, which is the skip of the stuff ordinances,

1668
02:19:30,400 --> 02:19:32,800
and the personal care items that hotels and motels,

1669
02:19:33,500 --> 02:19:36,820
plus a ban on polystyrene cups, playware, and coolers,

1670
02:19:36,820 --> 02:19:40,580
Also, an ordinance that required certified

1671
02:19:40,580 --> 02:19:42,200
compostful takeout cups,

1672
02:19:42,520 --> 02:19:44,500
playware, cutlery, clamshells,

1673
02:19:45,220 --> 02:19:46,080
be used at restaurants.

1674
02:19:46,680 --> 02:19:48,680
And the board has also approved an ordinance

1675
02:19:48,680 --> 02:19:51,560
for the three drop-off of sharps and pharmaceuticals

1676
02:19:51,560 --> 02:19:55,640
through an industry-funded program called the Santa Cruz Met Project.

1677
02:19:56,980 --> 02:19:58,780
The county's franchise agreement

1678
02:19:58,780 --> 02:20:02,320
provides two program coordinator, county staff positions

1679
02:20:02,320 --> 02:20:04,380
to do outreach and education

1680
02:20:04,380 --> 02:20:08,620
to increase diversion, recycling, including food waste,

1681
02:20:08,640 --> 02:20:12,180
that businesses, multi-family dwellings, and that special events

1682
02:20:12,180 --> 02:20:13,760
like the Santa Cruz County Fair.

1683
02:20:14,320 --> 02:20:16,200
They have also made efforts to address

1684
02:20:16,200 --> 02:20:19,440
illegal dumping and littering, which has recently been

1685
02:20:19,440 --> 02:20:21,340
focused on the North Coast beaches.

1686
02:20:22,380 --> 02:20:25,300
And Bo King provides more information on the

1687
02:20:25,300 --> 02:20:26,720
illegal dumping accomplishments.

1688
02:20:28,860 --> 02:20:29,460
Thank you.

1689
02:20:30,280 --> 02:20:32,580
Yes, in addition to our road, special crews,

1690
02:20:32,580 --> 02:20:35,100
We have collaborate with community partners,

1691
02:20:35,460 --> 02:20:38,240
Santa Cruz County Parks, downtown streets teams,

1692
02:20:38,420 --> 02:20:41,460
save our shores, Watsonville works most recently,

1693
02:20:42,340 --> 02:20:44,020
and clean teams to coordinate litter

1694
02:20:44,020 --> 02:20:45,880
and legal dumping of the pavement efforts,

1695
02:20:46,300 --> 02:20:48,560
which includes also syringe litter.

1696
02:20:49,760 --> 02:20:51,780
We've seen an uptake in a legal dumping

1697
02:20:52,640 --> 02:20:55,040
and in general over the last half year

1698
02:20:55,040 --> 02:20:57,780
and a half due to more daily visitors

1699
02:20:57,780 --> 02:21:01,000
to our community and to our region from COVID.

1700
02:21:01,000 --> 02:21:07,000
A legal dumping is actually a risen throughout the state on the same fine time scale.

1701
02:21:07,900 --> 02:21:14,920
On the North Coast, we've installed five signs at five of our most of our hot spot areas.

1702
02:21:15,840 --> 02:21:21,140
Including Scott Creek, Bonnie Dune, the Davenport Beach's.

1703
02:21:21,880 --> 02:21:30,400
We work with parks and downtown streets and both have permitted back that they have seen the reduction in the amount of litter that's escaping.

1704
02:21:30,400 --> 02:21:39,180
the car accident and we see on the roads. We've also increased capacity and a number of pickups per week

1705
02:21:39,180 --> 02:21:45,960
at all of our public receptacle pickups along the beaches and coastal access and such as this.

1706
02:21:48,000 --> 02:21:52,440
And now Casey will bring us back and talk to us about current programs.

1707
02:21:54,280 --> 02:22:00,680
Greenways. So the Greenways recovery franchise agreement allows for three

1708
02:22:00,680 --> 02:22:02,940
people, the item per site pickups,

1709
02:22:03,640 --> 02:22:05,240
her residential company, our customer.

1710
02:22:05,900 --> 02:22:08,600
This includes items such as furniture appliances,

1711
02:22:08,900 --> 02:22:10,360
mattresses and barbecues.

1712
02:22:10,880 --> 02:22:14,080
This has been effective in reducing the legal dumping

1713
02:22:14,080 --> 02:22:15,880
along county roads of these items.

1714
02:22:16,500 --> 02:22:18,420
We have community partnerships.

1715
02:22:18,820 --> 02:22:21,460
We work with the Parks Department to provide

1716
02:22:21,460 --> 02:22:24,440
other parks for trash and recyclables at Parks

1717
02:22:24,440 --> 02:22:27,800
and Beach Access Areas, the Coastal Watership Council

1718
02:22:27,800 --> 02:22:33,180
and onel C. Odyssey for the county's Green School program, downtown streets team and

1719
02:22:33,180 --> 02:22:38,300
Saber Shores for litter patrols of public space and beaches, and the Gray Bears

1720
02:22:38,700 --> 02:22:41,500
that operates three recycling centers in the county.

1721
02:22:46,880 --> 02:22:51,560
Our also three household hazardous waste facilities located in the county that provides safe and

1722
02:22:51,560 --> 02:22:57,240
legal disposal of hazardous waste for residents and small businesses. Green Waste Recovery

1723
02:22:57,240 --> 02:23:01,020
provides mixed recyclables and organic tripside collection service.

1724
02:23:01,020 --> 02:23:09,020
The county disposal sites provide recycling for guard waste and wood waste tires, mattresses, carpet, and electronic waste.

1725
02:23:09,400 --> 02:23:18,660
Great bears operates recycling centers at the one of us to landfill and then moment transportation that except scrap metal, bottles, cans, glass, cardboard, and paper.

1726
02:23:19,380 --> 02:23:25,860
And the Great Bears Mid County Shannick Clear location also accepts electronic waste and polystyrene foam.

1727
02:23:26,300 --> 02:23:29,520
And both can talk more about the educational and outreach efforts.

1728
02:23:29,520 --> 02:23:34,940
Yes, as Casey mentioned, recycling is always services does manage the green schools and green

1729
02:23:34,940 --> 02:23:40,720
business programs for the green schools program.

1730
02:23:41,040 --> 02:23:45,840
We contract with the coastal watershed council, and they do education outreach at all

1731
02:23:45,840 --> 02:23:52,300
county schools, K-312, and also for the elementary and middle schools, we collaborate with

1732
02:23:52,300 --> 02:24:02,240
and NSLug string band, as well as unions unit that do musical assemblies that have a environmental messaging.

1733
02:24:04,020 --> 02:24:16,300
For the, we also contract with environmental innovations that conducts education and support outreach to current recognized being businesses as well as

1734
02:24:16,300 --> 02:24:21,840
doing recruitment outreach efforts to businesses to bring more businesses into the

1735
02:24:21,840 --> 02:24:28,300
pre-investance network. This year, environmental innovations is partnering with

1736
02:24:28,300 --> 02:24:33,740
coastal watershed council as well to help bring some of the schools to become pre-investance

1737
02:24:33,740 --> 02:24:39,600
as well. The county is also a member of what is the Central Coast Recycling Media Coalition,

1738
02:24:40,820 --> 02:24:45,460
which is it's a coalition of local jurisdictions from Monterey, San Benito,

1739
02:24:45,460 --> 02:24:51,980
and our county and all of the local cities that we tool the money so that we have a more

1740
02:24:53,040 --> 02:24:58,740
more more money to advertise for common environmental interests along the coast.

1741
02:24:59,860 --> 02:25:03,100
And that case he will now discuss some more of our future initiatives.

1742
02:25:06,760 --> 02:25:11,680
So we track off federal and state extended producer responsibility legislation and

1743
02:25:11,680 --> 02:25:16,480
worked with our Santa Cruz County cities through the integrated waste management local task force

1744
02:25:16,480 --> 02:25:19,280
to create ordinances when needed to address

1745
02:25:19,280 --> 02:25:21,280
difficult to handle and of life products.

1746
02:25:22,140 --> 02:25:25,000
There is existing EPR policy for paint,

1747
02:25:25,020 --> 02:25:26,960
mattresses, sharps, and farms.

1748
02:25:27,500 --> 02:25:29,300
You'll have chronic waste and carpet.

1749
02:25:30,140 --> 02:25:32,300
Extended for deusory responsibility policy

1750
02:25:32,300 --> 02:25:35,560
is needed for batteries, plastic, treated wood waste,

1751
02:25:35,780 --> 02:25:38,100
and mixed material items, such as solar panels

1752
02:25:38,100 --> 02:25:42,340
that are very challenging and have hazardous components

1753
02:25:42,340 --> 02:25:52,540
and need to be recycled. We continue to monitor plastic reduction legislation and will bring ideas to your board for guidance.

1754
02:25:53,340 --> 02:26:02,480
Funding will dictate the pace of these efforts as having resources to do outreach implementation and compliance enforcement is critical for an effective program.

1755
02:26:02,480 --> 02:26:06,920
There are several free drop-off, sharps, kiosk in the county.

1756
02:26:07,640 --> 02:26:11,200
Locations are available on the SE Med Project website.

1757
02:26:12,320 --> 02:26:17,520
Public Works is working with health services to evaluate and improve and expand this program as needed.

1758
02:26:18,560 --> 02:26:22,420
Public Works is increasing efforts to divert food waste from the landfill.

1759
02:26:22,840 --> 02:26:29,180
This requires a many our green-maced recovery franchise agreement to include residential food waste pickup.

1760
02:26:29,180 --> 02:26:34,700
And Keith A company contract for increased costs to process and compost food waste.

1761
02:26:35,140 --> 02:26:40,760
Residential food waste collection service is planned to begin and of 2021 with the initial

1762
02:26:40,760 --> 02:26:44,780
start of a few select routes in gradual ramp up to full implementation.

1763
02:26:45,520 --> 02:26:50,440
Public works is working with green waste recovery to provide customers with educational information

1764
02:26:50,440 --> 02:26:54,060
to place food waste in the existing green or ganache cart.

1765
02:26:57,030 --> 02:26:58,190
Next slide please.

1766
02:26:59,270 --> 02:27:03,350
So, as Casey alluded to, one of the biggest things that's affecting the recycling-solved

1767
02:27:03,350 --> 02:27:09,510
waste group is this implementation of SB 1383, which is legislation that was passed a

1768
02:27:09,510 --> 02:27:12,530
couple of years ago when it takes effect beginning of 2022.

1769
02:27:13,650 --> 02:27:19,450
So, SB 1383 at its core is really climate change legislation that's aimed at reducing greenhouse

1770
02:27:19,450 --> 02:27:20,030
gases.

1771
02:27:20,270 --> 02:27:26,430
And one of the biggest focuses on SB 1383 is methane, since it's significantly more potent than carbon

1772
02:27:26,430 --> 02:27:26,930
dioxide.

1773
02:27:26,930 --> 02:27:32,730
And the state has determined about 20% of the methane that's released comes from landfills

1774
02:27:32,730 --> 02:27:35,930
to do-to-the-buried, the buried organic waste.

1775
02:27:37,510 --> 02:27:42,310
So that's if the 1383 is going to affect our program financially in two really big ways.

1776
02:27:42,710 --> 02:27:47,490
First, this case, you mentioned that all customers are going to have to start separating food waste

1777
02:27:47,490 --> 02:27:50,790
from their garbage and put those in the green bins.

1778
02:27:51,390 --> 02:27:54,470
And secondly, we're going to have to process all of this organic waste.

1779
02:27:54,470 --> 02:27:57,870
So we're going to need our facility to do so.

1780
02:27:57,930 --> 02:28:00,190
And we're looking at a location at the Buena Vista Lampo,

1781
02:28:00,330 --> 02:28:01,710
where we can do this.

1782
02:28:01,970 --> 02:28:04,770
And related to this, we're going to have to amend our agreements

1783
02:28:04,770 --> 02:28:07,010
with our franchise and all our green list recovery,

1784
02:28:07,210 --> 02:28:11,110
and also our another consultant that we had key pay company

1785
02:28:11,110 --> 02:28:13,890
who currently processes our organic son and much,

1786
02:28:13,950 --> 02:28:15,070
a much smaller scale.

1787
02:28:15,650 --> 02:28:16,510
Next slide, please.

1788
02:28:18,190 --> 02:28:23,070
So currently, our most recent survey of Buena Vista Lampo shows

1789
02:28:23,070 --> 02:28:28,210
that there's about eight to 10 years of life left at the point of the landfill.

1790
02:28:29,330 --> 02:28:34,350
All of the recycling efforts and initiatives that we've done obviously affects the life

1791
02:28:34,350 --> 02:28:35,090
of the landfill.

1792
02:28:35,590 --> 02:28:40,670
On average, we're currently doing about 100,000 tons per year.

1793
02:28:41,010 --> 02:28:44,550
I'm as what we put in the landfill, but that can fluctuate some years.

1794
02:28:44,690 --> 02:28:49,130
We do as many as 120,000 tons and other years we do 60,000 tons.

1795
02:28:50,110 --> 02:28:52,750
So all the efforts as far as, you know,

1796
02:28:52,870 --> 02:28:56,590
diverting recyclables on some of the SB 1383 requirements

1797
02:28:56,590 --> 02:29:00,510
if we're diverting more, keeping some of the organics out of the waste

1798
02:29:00,510 --> 02:29:04,230
stream. And those efforts will all help to extend the life of the

1799
02:29:04,230 --> 02:29:07,210
landfill. We're also doing efforts such as our Ben Lomen

1800
02:29:07,210 --> 02:29:10,150
transfer station. We're taking that, the waste that comes

1801
02:29:10,150 --> 02:29:13,450
up there. We're hauling that directly to the marina land fill.

1802
02:29:13,450 --> 02:29:16,910
So that extends the life of our landfill a little bit longer. I

1803
02:29:16,910 --> 02:29:25,870
I should also mention that there's some areas that will affect the length of the landfill and probably a negative way is that we're planning for a future transfer station.

1804
02:29:26,850 --> 02:29:40,330
So as part of that planning process, we're designing where the transfer station or actually probably going to need to at the point of this landfill and that's going to take up some of the capacity that we have there at the Atlanta due to roads and sighting and so forth.

1805
02:29:43,410 --> 02:29:49,150
So we are currently working with a planning department right now to work on the rezoning efforts.

1806
02:29:49,690 --> 02:29:54,310
Right now the landfill is it has a split zoning.

1807
02:29:54,430 --> 02:29:59,970
Half of it is appropriately zoned as as a public facility and the other half is zoned as commercial act.

1808
02:30:06,800 --> 02:30:19,040
So we're working to plan the Department of the Coastal Commission to write those before we get into the permitting process to start constructing the transfer station and really moving forward.

1809
02:30:19,040 --> 02:30:24,260
heavily with the planning and design and so forth. Next slide, please.

1810
02:30:26,900 --> 02:30:31,660
So these we want to get into some of our the numbers of the supports kind of cost and so

1811
02:30:31,660 --> 02:30:36,840
for so on the operational side of things we spent about 15.6 million dollars annually just

1812
02:30:36,840 --> 02:30:41,660
operate the landfill and the point of us to transfer station. About a million dollars is spent on

1813
02:30:41,660 --> 02:30:46,360
recycling, repeat the abatement, streetsweeping, litter cleanups as well as a legal dumping.

1814
02:30:46,360 --> 02:30:51,320
about $800,000. We spent on engineering for our consultants for designing and so forth.

1815
02:30:52,720 --> 02:30:56,680
Green school screen business programs, some of those things that what Bo was talking about

1816
02:30:56,680 --> 02:31:02,300
about $200,000 a year, and then there's miscellaneous capital costs that would include things like

1817
02:31:02,300 --> 02:31:10,380
equipment and then upkeep of our facilities. Next slide, please. So I talk about the need for a

1818
02:31:10,380 --> 02:31:14,180
transfer station as well as an organic processing facility. So you can see as those numbers,

1819
02:31:14,180 --> 02:31:21,060
those are really high numbers that we're going to need to figure out how to pay for.

1820
02:31:21,680 --> 02:31:23,660
We also have some needs at the Ben Lomen Transportation.

1821
02:31:24,000 --> 02:31:29,460
That's about a 30-year-old facility, so it needs some upgrades out there as well.

1822
02:31:30,920 --> 02:31:38,360
I should also note that on the back with the previous slide about the current annual expenses,

1823
02:31:38,600 --> 02:31:43,580
we expect those to be those costs to be going up as well due to SB 1383,

1824
02:31:43,580 --> 02:31:50,460
and we'll have to hire additional staff and so forth for that. Next slide please. So what

1825
02:31:50,460 --> 02:31:57,220
this all means and is that so this slide shows the projected revenue and then what the expenditures

1826
02:31:57,220 --> 02:32:04,400
would be if we're going to bond for some of the costs to do the the transfer station as well as

1827
02:32:04,400 --> 02:32:10,220
the improvements of the enrollment transfer station and the organic facility. So as you can see as

1828
02:32:10,220 --> 02:32:12,720
that projects out if it gets pretty dire.

1829
02:32:14,180 --> 02:32:15,980
And so there's a large funding gap.

1830
02:32:16,400 --> 02:32:17,220
Next slide, please.

1831
02:32:18,260 --> 02:32:19,960
But we do have a plan.

1832
02:32:20,120 --> 02:32:21,680
We've been working with our consultant

1833
02:32:21,680 --> 02:32:25,060
on a revenue measure, which will increase our 9 C funds.

1834
02:32:25,440 --> 02:32:28,840
That would bring in close to $5 million in additional revenue,

1835
02:32:28,900 --> 02:32:31,840
which would get us close to where we need to be.

1836
02:32:32,260 --> 02:32:34,580
What that means for an existing single-family dwelling

1837
02:32:34,580 --> 02:32:38,960
is that the current 9 C charge would go from about $57 a year

1838
02:32:38,960 --> 02:32:48,400
about $140 a year. We planned to bring to come back to the board in February 2022 with more details on this.

1839
02:32:49,280 --> 02:32:54,740
The board has also expressed interest in a possible ballot measure to bring back a portion of the

1840
02:32:54,740 --> 02:33:00,600
single use cup and bag charges to the county. We estimate that this would generate on the order of about a million dollars

1841
02:33:00,600 --> 02:33:06,920
annually. And we have a consultant who's just about ready to start pulling on this and we'll be

1842
02:33:06,920 --> 02:33:11,960
bring back the results of the polling efforts back to the board for additional direction on whether

1843
02:33:11,960 --> 02:33:13,500
or not we want to move forward with that.

1844
02:33:14,820 --> 02:33:18,700
And I'd also like to mention that in addition to these, the green waste recovery customer

1845
02:33:18,700 --> 02:33:23,160
fees are also expected to increase about six to eight percent in the upcoming year.

1846
02:33:24,140 --> 02:33:25,040
Next slide, please.

1847
02:33:25,540 --> 02:33:29,340
And we'll have Bo go over some of our operational justice for the department.

1848
02:33:30,160 --> 02:33:30,600
Thank you.

1849
02:33:30,940 --> 02:33:35,560
Everything that you've heard from us today feeds into the smart objectives to develop further

1850
02:33:35,560 --> 02:33:41,220
cycling and following way services division as part of the county's 2021-23 operational plan.

1851
02:33:41,840 --> 02:33:46,560
These objectives include ensuring syringe litter is collected within 48 hours,

1852
02:33:47,480 --> 02:33:51,780
looking at specific collection routes to target outreach to increased diversion.

1853
02:33:53,140 --> 02:33:59,040
Looking and really advocating for EPR or extended producer responsibility or legislation

1854
02:33:59,040 --> 02:34:02,500
regarding batteries, treated wood waste and solar panels, for instance,

1855
02:34:02,500 --> 02:34:05,120
are designing and permitting compost,

1856
02:34:05,120 --> 02:34:07,820
a compost facility at the point of the landfill,

1857
02:34:09,060 --> 02:34:13,100
also completing a plan for a new transfer station at the point of the landfill.

1858
02:34:14,080 --> 02:34:18,520
And lastly, it includes fully implementing organic waste diversion

1859
02:34:18,520 --> 02:34:21,940
for all businesses, off single family,

1860
02:34:22,100 --> 02:34:24,840
and multifamily residences within the county.

1861
02:34:27,040 --> 02:34:27,920
Next slide.

1862
02:34:29,200 --> 02:34:31,620
So if there's any additional direction from the board today,

1863
02:34:31,720 --> 02:34:32,680
we'd love to hear it.

1864
02:34:32,680 --> 02:34:39,020
And if we need to, we can chip course or change direction, if we need to, before we recommend

1865
02:34:39,020 --> 02:34:43,540
it actions, we really want to express our gratitude for our staff who worked out at the

1866
02:34:43,540 --> 02:34:45,600
one of the Stalempo and the Venoment Transportation.

1867
02:34:46,480 --> 02:34:50,180
It's been a tough year and a half, a tough year and a half for them out there doing with COVID

1868
02:34:50,860 --> 02:34:55,980
and some customers who aren't really happy about the face covering and masking requirements

1869
02:34:55,980 --> 02:35:01,860
as well as some of the state requirements that have been put on us for instance regarding treated

1870
02:35:01,860 --> 02:35:06,760
woodways and so forth. So there's just an amazing group of folks out there, men and women, and

1871
02:35:06,760 --> 02:35:12,800
we really just want to express our appreciation for them. So moving on to the recommended actions,

1872
02:35:13,840 --> 02:35:18,540
so as except in file, recycling solid-less long-term planning progress support and recommendations

1873
02:35:18,540 --> 02:35:24,520
on zero-ways planning and direct the public works department to return by September 2022 with a recycling

1874
02:35:24,520 --> 02:35:31,060
solid-less long-term planning progress support, and direct the Department of Public Works to return

1875
02:35:31,060 --> 02:35:36,540
by February 2022, with the recommendations for proceeding with a protest vote to increase the county

1876
02:35:36,540 --> 02:35:42,000
CSA-9C assessment to fund the county-solid-based facilities and finally, direct the

1877
02:35:42,000 --> 02:35:46,960
Public Works Department to return by February 2022 with the report on community support for

1878
02:35:46,960 --> 02:35:51,480
allowing the county to collect a percentage of single-use cup and single-use bag charge fees.

1879
02:35:51,900 --> 02:35:53,460
And we are available for any questions.

1880
02:35:53,460 --> 02:35:55,300
We're good. Thank you for the.

1881
02:35:55,420 --> 02:35:56,520
I'm a retirement person.

1882
02:35:56,880 --> 02:35:57,620
I'm a retirement person.

1883
02:35:57,940 --> 02:35:58,340
This is Carlos.

1884
02:35:58,860 --> 02:35:59,100
Yes.

1885
02:35:59,400 --> 02:36:02,220
If I could just comment on item number three on their recommendation.

1886
02:36:03,580 --> 02:36:07,180
This is on the cup fee and back fee.

1887
02:36:07,820 --> 02:36:08,300
Issue.

1888
02:36:08,720 --> 02:36:11,280
Just remind the board that we're also trying to coordinate.

1889
02:36:11,480 --> 02:36:12,560
This is a ballot measure.

1890
02:36:12,760 --> 02:36:13,980
They're talking about in 2022.

1891
02:36:14,840 --> 02:36:16,120
And we're trying to coordinate.

1892
02:36:16,820 --> 02:36:17,660
Other county.

1893
02:36:17,660 --> 02:36:26,140
needs such as a possible sales tax or hotel tax also in 2022 so I just wanted to remind

1894
02:36:26,140 --> 02:36:30,700
the board that those are also county wide priorities and I know the department has this

1895
02:36:30,700 --> 02:36:36,140
to the priority and they've integrated into part of their funding plan for these improvements

1896
02:36:36,140 --> 02:36:41,320
but I wanted to remind the board that we've also had discussions about other county wide initiatives

1897
02:36:41,320 --> 02:37:09,860
So we're going to have to integrate these plans into other plans you might have for either hotel tax or a sales tax because it's a crowded ballot as you can imagine in 2022 and so there's going to be a lot of initiatives and I just want to remind the board that this has to really be and it can't be viewed by its own right it's and a ballot initiative that really needs to be thought of and in the whole context of the 2022 ballot.

1898
02:37:09,860 --> 02:37:19,900
And all the other needs that the county has for both it's, especially it's a general fund, homeless initiatives, affordable housing initiatives. And so that's all you.

1899
02:37:19,960 --> 02:37:22,860
I just want to make sure you're reminded about that.

1900
02:37:23,660 --> 02:37:28,860
As you go into your discussions. Yeah, very good. Thank you for mentioning that. I appreciate it.

1901
02:37:28,860 --> 02:37:31,820
The comments from the public on this.

1902
02:37:32,120 --> 02:37:33,860
I have one speaker, I'm Zoom.

1903
02:37:36,820 --> 02:37:37,420
I'm calling you, sir.

1904
02:37:37,580 --> 02:37:39,040
Your microphone is available.

1905
02:37:56,560 --> 02:37:57,900
This is Maryland Garrett.

1906
02:37:58,100 --> 02:38:00,800
As I'm listening, I'm thinking about

1907
02:38:00,800 --> 02:38:03,220
a statement that corporations

1908
02:38:04,520 --> 02:38:08,900
privatize the profit and they socialize the cost.

1909
02:38:09,520 --> 02:38:13,740
Producing all these platforms and other chemicals

1910
02:38:13,740 --> 02:38:21,780
and you just said county spending over 15 million dollars on all of those, and I am hearing

1911
02:38:21,780 --> 02:38:31,460
that there's now more mass in the ocean than plastic bottles. And I quote this book,

1912
02:38:31,780 --> 02:38:38,320
toxic sludge is good for you. Lies, damn lies, and the public relations industry.

1913
02:38:38,320 --> 02:38:45,300
And one of these public relations firm states, the role of our communication is to manage

1914
02:38:45,300 --> 02:38:51,880
perception, which motivates behavior to create business results.

1915
02:38:52,620 --> 02:38:56,700
So one example of that is all this plastic takeout.

1916
02:38:57,040 --> 02:39:03,080
Personal protective stuff, man, boy, what big business results.

1917
02:39:03,940 --> 02:39:06,100
And you're talking about illegal dumping.

1918
02:39:06,100 --> 02:39:18,640
I think the corporations are doing illegal dumping of all this plastic and other chemicals on the public, and we need to go to the source of the contamination.

1919
02:39:18,640 --> 02:39:25,940
And the doctors and the sign-grabbers states, it's intolerable to regulate monitor,

1920
02:39:26,180 --> 02:39:33,660
permit, known and suspected carcinogens into the environment rather than prohibiting

1921
02:39:33,660 --> 02:39:37,120
their generation in the first place.

1922
02:39:37,500 --> 02:39:44,620
We need to stop the toxins, the plastic, et cetera, at their source.

1923
02:39:44,620 --> 02:39:49,580
This is a drop in the bucket, like you're proposing to

1924
02:39:53,380 --> 02:39:54,620
any other speaker sunset.

1925
02:39:55,100 --> 02:39:56,500
Okay, I'll return it to the board.

1926
02:39:56,800 --> 02:39:56,940
Thank you.

1927
02:39:57,420 --> 02:39:58,520
Thank you.

1928
02:39:58,520 --> 02:39:58,940
Thank you, Chair.

1929
02:39:59,240 --> 02:40:01,940
And thank you at all three for the fantastic presentation.

1930
02:40:03,760 --> 02:40:05,040
Just a clarifying question.

1931
02:40:06,220 --> 02:40:08,980
Our CAO will explain that, you know, I,

1932
02:40:09,240 --> 02:40:11,920
the third recommendation here would also need to go to a public photo.

1933
02:40:12,320 --> 02:40:16,160
The second one on increasing CSA nine C funds.

1934
02:40:16,160 --> 02:40:19,060
would that also ultimately be a public vote or is that something the board?

1935
02:40:19,280 --> 02:40:23,020
That's a public vote to be an up to 18 essentially a protest vote.

1936
02:40:23,360 --> 02:40:26,100
So you're saying, like, so there's, I mean, it would be a separate ballot.

1937
02:40:27,100 --> 02:40:34,640
We'd, we'd meal ballots to every, um, every person in the county that would be assessed the, the nine sea charge.

1938
02:40:34,780 --> 02:40:43,000
And then we would counts the, um, the number of, well, we would, if we get a majority protest from all the ballots, then it wouldn't pass.

1939
02:40:43,000 --> 02:40:50,520
So say if there's 10,000 ballots, we know that it's going to be a lot more than that, but say if there's 10,000, we'd have to get 5,000 plus 1,

1940
02:40:50,660 --> 02:40:54,980
5,000 1 ballots return back, that would be opposing it for not to pass.

1941
02:40:55,340 --> 02:40:58,860
I see, so that's why it's called a protest vote because it passes and wants it to protest,

1942
02:40:59,120 --> 02:41:02,580
it's correct. Got it. Thank you. And that's to come, that's it. That's not right.

1943
02:41:03,020 --> 02:41:11,540
Yeah, okay, right. And then, obviously, some really interesting stuff going on with our composting,

1944
02:41:13,520 --> 02:41:23,260
Is there is there any way that we would incentivize people to compost on site or is there you know, is there going to be an additional charge or

1945
02:41:23,260 --> 02:41:30,680
To individual homes when we collect compostful items, you know, sir. Yeah, how does that incentive system going to work.

1946
02:41:30,680 --> 02:41:32,180
Well, let's get the answer down.

1947
02:41:33,520 --> 02:41:36,060
It's already included in your rate.

1948
02:41:36,220 --> 02:41:38,500
As of now, those rates may go up in the future.

1949
02:41:39,820 --> 02:41:43,960
But the plan is because there's an existing green yard

1950
02:41:43,960 --> 02:41:46,560
trends, yard waste cart, that the food

1951
02:41:46,560 --> 02:41:49,760
component could go in there and be collected

1952
02:41:49,760 --> 02:41:52,280
along with the yard waste and all that material

1953
02:41:52,280 --> 02:41:54,720
would then be composted.

1954
02:41:54,940 --> 02:41:57,540
There is other incentives that we have.

1955
02:41:57,540 --> 02:42:02,700
we fund a workshop for home composting that we have.

1956
02:42:03,240 --> 02:42:06,440
They've been on actually, they have one in person outside,

1957
02:42:06,940 --> 02:42:09,100
COVID compliant just last week and I believe.

1958
02:42:09,820 --> 02:42:12,720
We have four or five of those events per year,

1959
02:42:13,500 --> 02:42:15,660
where we teach people, we have a master composter

1960
02:42:16,500 --> 02:42:19,900
who teaches people how to compost at home.

1961
02:42:20,220 --> 02:42:21,520
Okay, yeah, that sounds like a great program.

1962
02:42:21,520 --> 02:42:25,680
I look forward to attending it at some point, but there's no,

1963
02:42:25,680 --> 02:42:34,140
But if I chose to compost at home, I wouldn't see any direct financial benefit because I'm saving money on my garbage bill or anything like that.

1964
02:42:34,540 --> 02:42:42,180
The way right now in the regular refuse your food waste is going, so you potentially could reduce your service level.

1965
02:42:43,640 --> 02:42:46,760
We don't anticipate that would happen to a lot of people though.

1966
02:42:46,920 --> 02:42:55,600
Yeah, it was interesting to see in the report that organic or that food waste accounts for nearly half really of residential.

1967
02:42:58,540 --> 02:43:10,440
So, you know, with the current eight to 10 year estimate of the, for the landfill, is that that's based on current, you know, the 100,000 average of 100,000 times per year.

1968
02:43:10,740 --> 02:43:23,900
So, if, if we do successfully implement the organic food waste program and are composting all of that could we potentially, you know, close to double the life expectancy.

1969
02:43:23,900 --> 02:43:38,340
I don't think it would double it, I think, you know, say if we reduce it, you know, if we get all that 50% it's certainly going to add some years on to there, we might be able to, you know, add another four to five years on there.

1970
02:43:38,820 --> 02:43:53,640
But again, remember that we're also going to be losing some of our capacity as we design for the transportation as well. So it's, it's a range, it's, it's, you know, the amount that we get in kind of ebs and flows with the economy as well.

1971
02:43:53,640 --> 02:44:05,500
So it's it's it's hard to say and we get we do waste characterization studies every fall and we get the report back in the in the spring so every year we keep on top of that and we can report back to the board annually.

1972
02:44:05,500 --> 02:44:11,220
I think as what is what we normally do is to where we are with the capacity of the

1973
02:44:11,220 --> 02:44:11,620
landfill.

1974
02:44:12,060 --> 02:44:22,100
But there's certainly a valuable capacity if we are available, we can get an extra capacity

1975
02:44:22,100 --> 02:44:25,640
of the more people to take the organic waste out of the waste strength.

1976
02:44:26,700 --> 02:44:26,820
Okay.

1977
02:44:27,000 --> 02:44:27,340
Thank you.

1978
02:44:27,540 --> 02:44:28,680
Thank you for the report.

1979
02:44:29,420 --> 02:44:34,660
Thank you for the team for this presentation.

1980
02:44:34,660 --> 02:44:39,220
And as obviously the way I'm filled falls into my district, this has been of keen interest

1981
02:44:39,220 --> 02:44:43,660
and I have to say that I just appreciate Casey and others continuing to work on an issue

1982
02:44:44,360 --> 02:44:49,260
that in and of itself doesn't have a general constituency behind it in the sense that there

1983
02:44:49,260 --> 02:44:53,020
is in people that are pushing for these kinds of things, but these are the kinds of infrastructure

1984
02:44:53,020 --> 02:44:58,380
investments that the county doesn't make at pre-significant catastrophic consequences on the

1985
02:44:58,380 --> 02:44:58,780
back end.

1986
02:44:58,920 --> 02:44:59,840
So I appreciate that planning.

1987
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:07,900
The process has continued the entire time we've been on the board. We've made some adjustments in the last five or six years, but the next phase is essential.

1988
02:45:08,640 --> 02:45:17,440
I'm fully supportive of moving forward with the fee on the cuff and bag scenario. This is something that this board has talked about for a couple of years.

1989
02:45:17,660 --> 02:45:25,140
In fact, it took quite some time to actually get the initial report back. The initial report actually estimated a higher estimate than a million dollars.

1990
02:45:25,140 --> 02:45:27,120
we had an over $2 million estimate.

1991
02:45:27,600 --> 02:45:29,440
As I said at previous meetings, I think the majority,

1992
02:45:29,920 --> 02:45:32,540
the community doesn't realize that the money that's collected

1993
02:45:32,540 --> 02:45:34,360
from these fees does not go to the county.

1994
02:45:34,520 --> 02:45:36,500
It just goes back to the point of sale.

1995
02:45:36,600 --> 02:45:38,820
I think having some sort of hybrid approach

1996
02:45:38,820 --> 02:45:41,300
that benefits the business while also benefiting

1997
02:45:41,300 --> 02:45:43,920
the environmental programs would be very important.

1998
02:45:44,120 --> 02:45:46,740
These are the, this is money that the county's paying for anyway.

1999
02:45:47,060 --> 02:45:49,680
So, a way to take that off the table,

2000
02:45:49,700 --> 02:45:51,500
I think would be really important.

2001
02:45:51,580 --> 02:45:54,900
Obviously, it looked forward to what the community survey shows

2002
02:45:54,900 --> 02:45:59,320
in the business survey shows, but I think that this is something that seems like a no-brainer

2003
02:45:59,320 --> 02:45:59,620
to me.

2004
02:45:59,720 --> 02:46:02,320
I mean, this is a feat that somebody's already paying, it's not an increase in any way

2005
02:46:02,320 --> 02:46:02,860
shaped before.

2006
02:46:03,020 --> 02:46:07,280
You can make the businesses whole and you can also pay for environmental programs at the

2007
02:46:07,280 --> 02:46:12,860
same time, reminding that in 2022 we have two ballots, both in a primary and general election.

2008
02:46:13,120 --> 02:46:18,040
So I think that there will be space during the course of the year to allocate money for environmental

2009
02:46:18,040 --> 02:46:22,740
programs while also having a conversation about CO2 or whatever else needs to be happening throughout

2010
02:46:22,740 --> 02:46:23,520
the other ballots.

2011
02:46:23,520 --> 02:46:25,300
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

2012
02:46:25,600 --> 02:46:26,060
Thank you.

2013
02:46:26,120 --> 02:46:27,060
Some raise our community.

2014
02:46:28,680 --> 02:46:28,700
There.

2015
02:46:29,020 --> 02:46:43,020
So first I just want to take a moment and appreciate the efforts to reduce dumping and waste across the county and especially in the North Coast and the collaborations with the streets team and.

2016
02:46:43,020 --> 02:46:44,800
and you'll see how to see to educate.

2017
02:46:45,640 --> 02:46:49,140
It's been really beneficial and I want to just appreciate

2018
02:46:49,140 --> 02:46:51,560
your the proactive activity and the engagement

2019
02:46:51,560 --> 02:46:55,540
and hope it continues and hope to see we see reduction

2020
02:46:55,540 --> 02:46:58,620
and waste left in our beaches and our parks

2021
02:46:58,620 --> 02:47:01,620
and waterways and everywhere else.

2022
02:47:02,480 --> 02:47:05,760
And then I appreciate the conversation we're having

2023
02:47:05,760 --> 02:47:09,280
about the future of diversion and the landfill.

2024
02:47:10,320 --> 02:47:12,820
I think we're all facing a reckoning

2025
02:47:12,820 --> 02:47:21,780
of reduced or more costly resources and the need that we have to make new investments to

2026
02:47:21,780 --> 02:47:29,020
make our systems last for future generations and more resilient and more environmentally

2027
02:47:29,020 --> 02:47:39,940
beneficial. And then finally, you know, I do want to reduce plastic cups and other impacts

2028
02:47:39,940 --> 02:47:47,700
an environment and I also want to be aware as the CAO mentioned of the competing needs of the county and how things

2029
02:47:47,700 --> 02:47:53,120
confid into one another and and I do look forward to the survey of the community and the businesses,

2030
02:47:53,540 --> 02:47:59,280
particularly small businesses who may not have point of sale systems that are able to capture it and what

2031
02:47:59,280 --> 02:48:05,560
what that looks like for them from an implementation point of view. But thank you for all your efforts.

2032
02:48:05,560 --> 02:48:08,260
Thank you. Supervisor Kevin.

2033
02:48:10,200 --> 02:48:11,040
Thank you.

2034
02:48:11,680 --> 02:48:12,960
Yeah, good to see you guys.

2035
02:48:13,620 --> 02:48:15,660
And thanks for your report.

2036
02:48:17,660 --> 02:48:30,460
I apologize if maybe you mentioned it, but I did we lose a couple of years because of the pandemic and everything like that.

2037
02:48:30,460 --> 02:48:33,740
But a couple of years of capacity at the landfill, is that your question?

2038
02:48:34,580 --> 02:48:44,180
Yeah, like two years ago did we have instead of eight to ten years left that we have like 12 years or...

2039
02:48:44,180 --> 02:48:48,980
You know, the study has been coming back at about eight to ten years for the last couple of years.

2040
02:48:49,140 --> 02:48:58,060
We have seen a bit of an uptick in the last two to three years in the amount of waste coming into the landfill.

2041
02:48:58,060 --> 02:49:04,540
and that's good economy's doing really well right now and construction is going really busy

2042
02:49:04,540 --> 02:49:11,840
and throughout the county. So when that happens we see a higher update. So we have lost some

2043
02:49:11,840 --> 02:49:18,700
some additional years or maybe I'd probably say about a year or so capacity. But there's so many

2044
02:49:18,700 --> 02:49:22,320
variables in there. It's hard to say. It's an estimate and it's a range.

2045
02:49:23,360 --> 02:49:32,320
And then there was, over by the one and what's an original airport, there was a composting area there.

2046
02:49:35,500 --> 02:49:38,080
What's that with that right now?

2047
02:49:39,760 --> 02:49:47,140
That's not there anymore, the last time I checked that was, there's a landscaper trucking

2048
02:49:47,140 --> 02:49:56,020
over there that had like mulch and garden products and soil, many years back there was a compost

2049
02:49:56,020 --> 02:50:01,300
in area there next to the the driving range that I believe was through the city of Watsonville,

2050
02:50:01,660 --> 02:50:07,880
but that hasn't been there for several years. Okay. Yeah. And then one question real quick

2051
02:50:07,880 --> 02:50:18,960
on artificial turf, a lot of places put both fields and things like that. What's the

2052
02:50:18,960 --> 02:50:25,900
real high school changed their artificial turf and they put a new one in about a couple

2053
02:50:25,900 --> 02:50:36,680
months ago? They said now instead of going to a landfill with the old artificial turf, it

2054
02:50:36,680 --> 02:50:43,120
actually goes back to where does it go to be recycled or what?

2055
02:50:44,880 --> 02:50:50,180
Yeah, I'm not aware of a facility that takes artificial turf back to recycle, but I'm

2056
02:50:50,180 --> 02:50:55,660
glad to hear it, because I know a lot of fields do have artificial turf, and then needs to be replaced.

2057
02:50:57,520 --> 02:51:03,620
That's, you know, like, that could fill up a, you know, fill up a landfill real fast.

2058
02:51:03,620 --> 02:51:21,620
Yeah, it would be a lot of material that wouldn't decompose and be problematic to landfill plastic materials often difficult to recycle because if it's mixed with other materials, it's hard to separate and it's it's a very involved process, but hopefully there are just all these that can do it.

2059
02:51:21,620 --> 02:51:34,740
we'll get back to, I think on one year's plastic, we kind of lost it a little bit because

2060
02:51:34,740 --> 02:51:43,100
the pandemic and everything like that, you know, instead of people buying using their own

2061
02:51:43,100 --> 02:51:51,600
coffee cup and all that. So I don't know, the plastic is still the biggest problem we have right

2062
02:51:53,030 --> 02:52:02,990
Because it's not as recyclable as the down cycles as you recycle it, it doesn't always get made into another cup because it's made into another product that cannot be recycled.

2063
02:52:04,030 --> 02:52:09,030
So we have your more passing ordinance for compostable to go where.

2064
02:52:09,610 --> 02:52:19,450
So all the cups and the unincarparate accounting and plateware clam shells should be compostable and that's good because once we fully implement the food waste program.

2065
02:52:19,450 --> 02:52:21,890
and those compulsory moment sure else can't go in that,

2066
02:52:22,050 --> 02:52:24,350
but the food waste can be composted.

2067
02:52:25,450 --> 02:52:27,290
And I'll just make a comment.

2068
02:52:27,510 --> 02:52:29,450
I think one of the things I'm thinking of

2069
02:52:31,350 --> 02:52:35,850
is proactively manufacturers are going to have to come up

2070
02:52:35,850 --> 02:52:41,070
with a compulsory compostable material

2071
02:52:41,070 --> 02:52:46,270
and to replace a lot of plastic, I don't know how they're going to do it,

2072
02:52:46,270 --> 02:52:53,610
And it seems like we're going to have to come up with something otherwise it's going to end up

2073
02:52:53,610 --> 02:52:57,810
the little plastic particles you're going to end up everywhere.

2074
02:53:01,420 --> 02:53:02,020
There you go.

2075
02:53:02,360 --> 02:53:03,060
Thanks a lot.

2076
02:53:04,380 --> 02:53:06,340
I do address this.

2077
02:53:07,180 --> 02:53:09,300
You ever changed your regulations on.

2078
02:53:09,320 --> 02:53:11,420
Our landfill has been around for decades.

2079
02:53:11,740 --> 02:53:14,300
And it seems like it's getting more complex for you down the road.

2080
02:53:14,300 --> 02:53:28,220
But I've no doubt that this county is going to develop a good strategic plan so we can be forward thinking as necessary to stay in compliance with ever changing or always new state mandates.

2081
02:53:29,080 --> 02:53:42,400
I don't think it's worth mentioning that the gray bears recycling operations for the county at the benoma transfer station are going very well and I want to compliment everybody in public or superman for making that happen and working so well.

2082
02:53:42,400 --> 02:53:51,080
And my thanks to the gray bears and the public works for its hard work and putting together the structure for those programs and going partnership.

2083
02:53:52,340 --> 02:53:54,360
I do agree with Ms. Garrett.

2084
02:53:55,440 --> 02:54:01,120
The extending extended producer responsibility is probably the biggest thing that can change this whole scenario.

2085
02:54:01,340 --> 02:54:04,680
And it's not going to be Santa Cruz County. It's going to be state and national.

2086
02:54:04,680 --> 02:54:13,500
We've got a really pressure those who are producing these disposable items, shall we say.

2087
02:54:14,700 --> 02:54:19,220
And making them be more responsible or changing their method of operation.

2088
02:54:20,700 --> 02:54:23,840
You mentioned, and I want to thank the Downtown Streets Program.

2089
02:54:24,000 --> 02:54:30,100
It's been a tremendously successful program and getting some of the homeless people to participate

2090
02:54:30,100 --> 02:54:37,000
and cleaning up our streets and rivers and so forth and speaking of rivers and the coastal clean up that we had just last

2091
02:54:37,000 --> 02:54:43,400
weekend that I participated in, the watershed council and C. Odyssey and for what they did along the coast.

2092
02:54:44,100 --> 02:54:48,360
And then for the Valley Women's Club and the Sanomans of Valley Rotary Club and Sanomans of Valley for cleaning up.

2093
02:54:48,360 --> 02:54:52,640
I think they had a thousand pounds of of litter that they cleaned up along the Sanomans of rivers.

2094
02:54:53,120 --> 02:54:59,240
So that's very, very encouraging. I do appreciate your report, your insights

2095
02:54:59,240 --> 02:55:12,040
And the challenges that we have ahead in their opponents, and they're getting more, I do use that word again challenging with the state that we have, but I think that we are certainly on the right track and I really appreciate your report.

2096
02:55:13,040 --> 02:55:19,580
This is just a report, but I think we should have a motion to accept the report.

2097
02:55:19,700 --> 02:55:21,180
I'll move the recommended actions.

2098
02:55:22,700 --> 02:55:23,820
Please hold the roll.

2099
02:55:23,820 --> 02:55:25,780
Supervisor Coneg. Hi.

2100
02:55:26,080 --> 02:55:26,420
Friend.

2101
02:55:27,620 --> 02:55:27,760
Good.

2102
02:55:27,760 --> 02:55:27,900
Good.

2103
02:55:30,620 --> 02:55:32,940
Thank you, motion passes unanimously.

2104
02:55:33,640 --> 02:55:35,440
We will now take up item number 11.

2105
02:55:36,080 --> 02:55:38,820
The last item on our regular agenda for this morning.

2106
02:55:39,420 --> 02:55:43,960
Consider adoption of an ordinance repealing and replacing chapters 7.207.212.

2107
02:55:45,460 --> 02:55:52,000
2, 3, 2, 4, 2, 5 and 2, 6 of the Santa Cruz County code relating to solid waste as recommended by the deputy

2108
02:55:52,000 --> 02:56:20,620
CIO, Director of Public Works. We have several chapters of this strikeout version of those that I just mentioned 20, 21, 23, 24, 25 and 26. So I do appreciate this report that we're going to do yet. I guess you're going to be just me. Oh, go ahead. Casey, excuse me. Thank you. Good morning, chair McPherson and board members.

2109
02:56:20,620 --> 02:56:32,520
Casey Klaus of Public Works, the ordinance before you today, consolidates existing county code chapters into one comprehensive chapter for solved waste, which will be the new chapter 7.20.

2110
02:56:33,360 --> 02:56:41,480
This simplifies the county code by combining co findings, purposes, definitions, enforcement and exemption provisions into single sections.

2111
02:56:41,480 --> 02:56:48,700
It also updates language to the line with county's franchise hall or agreements and county cycles terminology for solid waste.

2112
02:56:49,380 --> 02:56:56,020
There are some new provisions in the consolidated code to be in compliance with Senate Bill 1383 regulations.

2113
02:56:56,720 --> 02:57:03,300
This includes provisions for diversion of all organics including food waste scraps from landfill disposal.

2114
02:57:03,300 --> 02:57:10,700
It also expands the universal service area for required refuse and recyclables kerbside collection service

2115
02:57:10,700 --> 02:57:20,040
through the entire unincorporate county, but has exceptions for cell followers and exemptions for low density population areas.

2116
02:57:21,740 --> 02:57:25,600
This ordinance also includes provisions for edible food recovery.

2117
02:57:25,600 --> 02:57:33,060
So, some other important changes include, it has an expanded list of solid waste related definitions,

2118
02:57:34,120 --> 02:57:38,840
standardized trash and recyclable container color and capacity specification requirements,

2119
02:57:39,620 --> 02:57:48,100
and updated language for required diversion of recyclable materials, which include inspection of carts and bins,

2120
02:57:48,100 --> 02:57:59,820
and provision for businesses to provide clearly labeled and color-coded blue recyclables and yellow food waste bins along with trash containers at front of store for their customers.

2121
02:58:00,760 --> 02:58:10,820
These updates to the county-sold waste code support the county's climate action strategy and zero waste plan and strategic plan element for sustainable environment.

2122
02:58:10,820 --> 02:58:32,800
They're recommended actions are adopt ordinance repealing 7.20, 7.21, 7.23, 7.24, 7.25, and 7.26 of the Santa Cruz County code relating to solid waste and replacing them with a revised chapter 7.20.

2123
02:58:33,540 --> 02:58:38,280
And schedule the ordinance for final adoption on October 19th, 2021.

2124
02:58:39,160 --> 02:58:43,400
Thank you. Thank you for that report. Is there any comments from the public?

2125
02:58:47,440 --> 02:58:48,260
Bring it back to you.

2126
02:58:48,260 --> 02:58:48,840
Thank you. Have put on some.

2127
02:58:49,060 --> 02:58:50,000
Oh, excuse me on the phone.

2128
02:58:50,300 --> 02:58:50,380
Yes.

2129
02:58:50,960 --> 02:58:53,120
Calling user one, your microphone is available.

2130
02:59:08,400 --> 02:59:09,460
Take a look at their hands.

2131
02:59:11,200 --> 02:59:12,980
This is Maryland Garrett again.

2132
02:59:13,840 --> 02:59:16,360
I don't think this is zero waste.

2133
02:59:16,440 --> 02:59:19,980
It sounds good, but I think it's forever waste.

2134
02:59:19,980 --> 02:59:28,360
like corporations produced these plastics and they're in the environment forever and we have these

2135
02:59:28,360 --> 02:59:38,140
micro plastics we have pesticide all over over recycling it's a misnomer it's pollution for

2136
02:59:38,140 --> 02:59:48,060
ever more and the plague of plastic especially Ralph Nader had a good quote he said recycling

2137
02:59:48,060 --> 02:59:59,820
is a corporate scam. It puts the public to sleep. Why are we taking care of and paying for

2138
02:59:59,820 --> 02:59:59,980
Thank you.

2139
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:10,960
Waste and toxins that are poisoning us. They should be prohibited from generating anything that is not proven

2140
03:00:10,960 --> 03:00:22,560
safe in the environment. You're always talking about safety. Toxic chemical, plastics, pesticides, cell phones,

2141
03:00:22,560 --> 03:00:30,640
our radio station is not safe. It should be prohibited. That's my comment. Thank you.

2142
03:00:32,670 --> 03:00:39,370
There are no other speakers. Thank you. I'll bring this back to the board. I appreciate all

2143
03:00:39,370 --> 03:00:45,970
the works once again for this report and the planning how we're going to meet these state mandates.

2144
03:00:47,230 --> 03:00:51,490
And I'm certain that this county is going to meet the moment when it comes to food waste.

2145
03:00:52,010 --> 03:01:16,550
Actually, I think we can lead by example, and I think there's an opportunity here having been one of the initial organizers of my Ray Bay community power and now in central coast community energy I can see where we can have some of this food waste the resource for production of renewable power and I think there's a real opportunity there and I think we're going to be a leader we can be a leader in making that happen.

2146
03:01:20,970 --> 03:01:31,790
Thank you, Mr. Colesat, for the extensive rewrite on this clearly, it was a long past time to clean up our house and ordinances here, and so appreciate the work.

2147
03:01:32,630 --> 03:01:33,270
Thank you.

2148
03:01:33,310 --> 03:01:35,030
Supervisor, friend, you comments?

2149
03:01:36,150 --> 03:01:36,590
You're okay.

2150
03:01:37,210 --> 03:01:38,570
I'll just move the recommended actions.

2151
03:01:38,910 --> 03:01:39,190
Thank you.

2152
03:01:39,870 --> 03:01:42,750
Second, you have any other comments from board members?

2153
03:01:44,210 --> 03:01:45,330
Please call the rule.

2154
03:01:45,330 --> 03:01:47,890
Supervisor Coneg. Hi. Hi. Friend.

2155
03:01:49,970 --> 03:01:50,550
Hi. Hi.

2156
03:01:53,050 --> 03:01:55,970
Make first. Hi. Thank you. Motion testing now.

2157
03:01:56,030 --> 03:01:57,950
It's just past the new hour.

2158
03:01:58,590 --> 03:02:00,710
We were going to go into closed session now.

2159
03:02:01,050 --> 03:02:02,490
Whether it be any reportable items.

2160
03:02:02,870 --> 03:02:05,290
Yes, there may be a reportable item when we come back at 130.

2161
03:02:05,850 --> 03:02:06,510
Okay, we.

2162
03:02:06,690 --> 03:02:11,170
If there is a reportable item, we will report that before we go into the

2163
03:02:11,170 --> 03:02:19,210
report schedule for 130 PM on the Atkins Degree Flow Float has a hudzer study. So this will

2164
03:02:19,210 --> 03:02:21,950
will recess into closed session and return at 130.

2165
03:02:32,020 --> 03:02:38,300
September 28th, 2021, the Santa Cruz County Board of Supervisors, we have a scheduled item

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at 130 to consider report and results of the Atkins Degree Flow. First of all, excuse me,

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we had a closed session. County Council, is there anything reportable from the closed session?

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Yes, thank you. This has directed to item E on the closed session agenda. The board approved by a 50 vote, the filing of litigation against an entity that will be named to the later date. Thank you.

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All right, not through the 130 item that's scheduled.

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Consider report on the results of the Atkins debris flow flood hazard study prepared for the burn area.

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of the August 2020 ECCU, Lightning Complex Fires, and take related actions as outlined

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in the memorandum of the Planning Director, presenting will be Carolyn Burke, or Senior Civil

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Engineer.

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Good afternoon, and thank you for the opportunity to present the results of the Act

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CZU flood and debris flow studied prepared by Act Engineering, graciously funded by the

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and supported in collaboration with the County of Santa Cruz Planning Recovery Permit Center in OR-3.

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With an overview of the geologic evaluations conducted in the CZU burn area and actions taken to

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assist those rebuilding areas subject to potential debris flow. In late August in early September of 2020,

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the state watershed emergency response team conducted a rapid largely qualitative evaluation

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of geologic hazards and debris flow potential throughout the burn area to determine immediate

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life safety and property risks in a system evacuation planning for the winter months ahead.

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The work report stressed that more detailed study of debris flow hazards was necessary to

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refine and characterize hazards in the identified debris flow areas. Shortly after the county

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requested a more focused study of historical debris flow risks in the Boulder Creek area,

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which was conducted by the California Geological Survey and published in November 2020.

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The county also conducted their own detailed field reconnaissance and geologic

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mapping throughout September 2020 to support emergency planning for the upcoming winter,

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walking drainage basins to understand where mud would flow in the event of a debris flow

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and ensuring that homes in harm's way would be aware of the risk during a triggering storm of

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it. While ensuring emergency response personnel were supported by the county's local geologic

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expertise, many staff were simultaneously preparing to assist those rebuilding and debris flow

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prone areas. County staff consulted with Santa Barbara County personnel to determine the best

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next steps to characterize the debris flow hazard, and it was clear that a quantitative modeling study

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would be required to refine the predicted path of potential debris flows and understand the relative risk levels in different areas of the basins.

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This type of study had been conducted in Santa Barbara County, just after their debris flow, event in Monocido in 2018,

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in plain of firm specializing in such modeling, Atkins Engineering.

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Throughout the fall of 2021, County staff consulted with representatives of the National Resources Conservation Service and Cal OES, conducting field tours and informational meetings to burner support for mitigation grant funding and determine how we could bolster our case for additional support from state and federal agencies.

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March of 2021, planning staff submitted a FEMA hazard mitigation grant application,

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for funding to hire a consultant to conduct a quantitative flood

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in the brief O hazard modeling study in the CZU burn area.

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Post-application consultation with Cal OES staff indicated that the funding review and approval

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process would take more months to complete than rebuilders because of Ford.

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In May of 2021 or three staff approached the community foundation Santa Cruz County to let them know the opportunity to provide valuable assistance to those rebuilding and debris flow hazard areas.

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We have funding the detailed flood and debris flow modeling study. The foundation jumped at the chance to assist and authorized funding for the act and study in June.

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The study was estimated to take 10 to 12 weeks to complete, and Actons was able to maintain

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that timeline with the final product delivered at the end of last week.

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As noted in the previous slide, early debris flow evaluation and mapping efforts were largely focused

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on supporting evacuation planning, and were necessarily conservative in the determination

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of hazard boundaries to ensure that all standing structures at risk of impact during the winter

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months were identified and noticed prior to triggering winter storms. Early mapping did not

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differentiate between risk levels within debris flow hazard areas, resulting in a generally

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undetermined level of risk for home sites in these areas. Without further quantitative evaluation

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of debris flow hazard risks and operating under Santa Cruz County Code chapter 1610, geological

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reports were required for rebuilding and identified hazard areas, and communicated to rebuild

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The benefits of a detailed quantitative evaluation of areas at risk of debris flow hazards are numerous from 18 rebuilders and those subject to evacuation in the near term to serving as a basis for long term community protection be a community wide mitigation grants.

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The quantitative modeling of the detailed study results in a refinement of risk areas by not only considering topography, as was done in early evaluations, but also an anticipated volume of material, defining a geographic boundary for areas that would be subject to impact from debris flows.

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Modeling the flow of water and mud also provides volume and velocity data at different points in the flow channels.

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In addition to informing relative risk and potential for destructive impacts,

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this data can also provide the basis for mitigation design on individual lots or community wide,

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such as debris flow nets higher up in the channels.

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Finally, a relative level of risk for different areas prone to debris flows,

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allows for more detailed evacuation prioritization in planning.

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At a detailed flood in debris flows study was commissioned by the Community Foundation

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Santa Cruz County and performed by Actons Engineering.

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Linda Potter, engineering Actons is here to present the methodology and results of her study.

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Thank you. Hello. As Carolyn mentioned, my name is Linda Potter and I'm with Actons

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and I was the lead investigator on this program. Next slide, please.

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The

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purpose of the study was to provide a post-burn runoff and debris risk analysis, and this was done for the watershed that you see on your right, which was impacted by the burn.

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And the work performed consist of hydrologic and hydraulic modeling, which is also known as the amount of water that's expected and where it might go, and also a creation of risk zones and areas. Next slide please.

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The modeling was performed using the Army Corps of Engineers HEC Razz 6.0, which is a publicly available software that's also kind of the industry standard for this type of modeling, and models were produced for both pre and postburn scenarios.

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And the reason this is done is because higher runoff is expected from burned areas as well as a higher concentration of sediment.

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The model employed Rain on Grid, which is actually applying rainfall to the watershed and seeing where water collects and how it travels.

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And is routed on a two-dimensional flow grid to determine inundation areas, depths and velocities.

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And I just like to note that this modeling that was done does not replace any existing FEMA mapping, which was solely done for the purpose of quantifying risks.

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Next slide please.

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The creation of risk zones was done in certain areas of the watershed.

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The risk due to the rainfall vary across the watershed, and we have three types of identified

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risks that may occur.

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This would be debris flow, flooding kind of the muddy water flow, debris flow is different

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from the muddy water flow in physical characteristics and tends to be more damaging.

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And there are also a chance of landslides and landslide initiated debris flows, but note

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but that is not covered by this analysis.

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So this left areas chosen for the creation of the risk stones

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and the more detailed analysis was due to development

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and rebuilding areas and also on certain flow paths.

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So some of the watershed was not studied in detail

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for debris flow, however, the entire watershed was studied

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for flooding.

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And multiple factors were evaluated during the creation

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of these risk stones.

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So all of the previous studies that

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mentioned, as well as a site specific geomorphologic investigation, looking at slopes,

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alluvial fans, and many other physical factors in the watershed. Next slide please.

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There's an example of the risks zones that were created on the right hand side,

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and you'll see some different colors here, with the red being what's expected to be the primary

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debris flow path. And so this is the path predicted by the model, the HEC RAS model,

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And this is going to be the main transfer corridor for water mud and debris.

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This is often the most hazardous area and also has higher depths and velocities.

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The next color you'll see is the orange color.

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These are uncertain debris flow paths.

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So we expect that the high hazard, if a debris flow occurs, the high hazards

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own might have flow breaking out from the main channel.

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otherwise known as Evolgens, and once they leave the main channel, they often do not return.

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So these orange zones or these uncertain to brief up past are created in areas where we might expect flow to break out from the main channel.

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We also have what's called the inundation area, and this is kind of our mud or muddy water area that's also predicted by the model.

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So we expect these to have flood type of impacts during a large event.

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And outside of that we have what's called the unstudied zone.

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So you'll see a boundary there, the yellow color.

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So this would be everywhere where we have the hydrologic and hydraulic model,

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but we did not study for debris flow.

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And then finally the lower risk areas, which are shown in the green color,

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All right, within our study, water said boundaries where we've looked at the hazards and determined them to be lower rests than the other ones.

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Next slide, please.

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One of the other great things that has come out of the study are these depth and velocity grids.

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These are presented on a spatial basis where you can actually find a spot on a map, click on it, and get your predicted depth or velocity,

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which greatly aids in rebuilding efforts to know what kind of hazards you need to design for.

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I'll turn it back to Carolyn.

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Thank you, Linda.

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I'd like to take this opportunity to recognize the exceptional work performed by Linda as lead for

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Atcons Engineering and her team's willingness to go above and beyond to meet the time bound needs of our rebuilders.

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That can study benefits for both those rebuilding and debris flow prone areas, as well as their communities in variety of ways.

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An initial benefit derived from the refined debris flow hazard zones and the actions detailed study areas is an estimated 20% reduction in the number of potential rebuild structures identified as being in a debris flow risk zone.

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when compared with initial state and county mapping in these areas.

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The quantitative modeling employed in the study constitutes the best available data

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for levels of risk due to the debris flows and replaces county debris flow hazard maps

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when screening rebuild proposals for debris flow hazards in the actions detailed study areas.

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Another benefit of actions quantitative modeling is as a resource for the technical

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community working on rebuild proposals, the availability of depth and velocity data for potential

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debris flow conditions provided at a scale that can be used by the consulting geotechnical

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engineers, geologists, and design teams. The scope of the modeling conducted during the

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act and study would be prohibitively expensive if conducted on an individual basis.

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And the resulting data is a valuable reference for technical professionals, potentially reducing

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in the scope and costs of their reports.

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In some cases, the Arkansas data may even eliminate

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the need for additional geologic evaluation.

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That can study establishment of relative risk levels

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in primary and uncertain debris flow paths.

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Characterizes the level of risk for rebuild sites

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that cannot be achieved by qualitative evaluation alone.

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Determining where a mudble travel

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during a potential debris flow event allows those

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building to make informed decisions about where to cite their rebuilt structure and some

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homesites may be able to be relocated out of harm's way. Finally, that can study provides valuable

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source of documentation for future community scale mitigation grant applications.

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During the county's consultation with the National Resources Conservation Service in Cal

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OES staff regarding mitigation grants, it was made clear that those communities that can

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quantify the scale of the hazard in the number of sites that would potentially benefit from

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a mitigation project are more likely to receive funding than those who cannot provide this data.

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My marine uncertain debris flow paths have been referenced throughout our presentation today

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because these zones will be utilized by the county geologist, drain his evaluation of

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rebuild sites. It is worth reviewing the similarities and differences between the two.

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Primary debris flow paths are based on debris flow volume and topography and generally are subject to higher velocity channelized flows because the primary debris flow path is more predictable sites located in these areas are at higher risk of impact from potential debris flows.

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uncertain debris flow paths are based on a change in channel grade and or a channel blockage

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resulting in the dispersion of debris via unpredictable paths. This dispersion means that sites

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in the uncertain debris flow path have a lower individual chance of impact and if affected

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would likely expand slower depths and velocity of debris. It is important to note that while

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the two zones have differing flow characteristics, sites in either primary or uncertain debris

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slope has are subject to potential lay safety and property risks, and are considered geologic hazards

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areas for the county geologic hazards or events.

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With a better understanding of the study

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results, the question of the forefront is what these results mean for those rebuilding and the

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Ackens detailed study areas. Geologic pre-application occurrences will clear rebuild sites if they

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are located outside the Ackens primary and uncertain debris slope has, and there are no other geologic

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hazards affecting the site. For those within the actions to brief those zones that choose

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to rebuild for the CZU rebuild directive passed by the board on September 14, no geology report is

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needed to meet the requirements of chapter 1610. In these cases that I can study velocity and depth

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data may assist the project to your technical engineer and meeting the design requirements of the

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The Ackon Study data may also serve to characterize the previously unknown level of risk,

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described in the Covenant required under the provisions of the CZ Rebuild Directive,

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narrowing the field of risk evaluated by Lenders and Insurance.

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Finally, should one opt not to take the CZ Rebuild Directive Path and instead rebuild and compliance

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with county code chapter 1610. The Ackon Study remains a valuable data source for

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and geotechnical engineers on their design teams.

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During the September 14th board meeting,

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to consider options for rebuilders to not consider

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the requirements of county code chapter 1610.

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There was robust discussion regarding

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the recordation of a covenant on title

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that confirms property owners

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that seem the risk of rebuilding

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in an area subject to geologic hazards.

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Staff was remiss and not providing a broader context

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for this type of recorded document.

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And for the past 25 years, a declaration of geologic hazards has routinely been recorded

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on title as a condition of approval for building an area subject to geologic hazards.

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The document is streamlined and format and content in an addition to assumption of risk

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and indemnification of the county, includes a description of the studies conducted, characterize

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the hazard and where to locate these files.

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To be, we have not been made aware of any significant hardship

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resulting from the stock implementation being on title.

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The concerns heard from the rebuilding community regarding

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the recorded covenant include the fact that the sample covenant provided

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in the board packet described as an exhaustive range of geologic hazards

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that may be present on their personal and of unknown risk to occupants

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and property.

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Bears were expressed regarding how such broad statement would be considered

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by lenders ensures in future potential on buyers.

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To be emphasized, the Covenant provided as an attachment to the September-14th agenda item

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was intended to be a draft document that can be adjusted based on state-specific circumstances,

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and was not meant to be a one-size-fits-all document that must be recorded as is on every property.

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In response to concerns raised by rebuilders, county staff began deeper discussions,

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with individual rebuilders as well as lending and insurance industry representatives to determine

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how the sample covenant could be modified while maintaining the three main objectives of

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notification of potential geologic hazards to future property owners in demnification of the county

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and assumption of risk by those building and potential hazard area.

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Suggested modifications to the sample covenant provided on September 14 are guided by the format

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and content of the current declaration of geologic hazards, which has not resulted in the potential

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negative outcome noted by others. These modifications include replacing the sample covenant with

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the notice of geologic hazards that would narrow the description of potential geologic hazards

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based on the action study and or other investigations which would also be cited in the notice

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03:22:51,960 --> 03:22:58,020
as the basis for that characterization. The notice of geologic hazards would include a simplified

2373
03:22:58,020 --> 03:23:03,660
format based on the declaration required as prem practice and eliminate the agreement to

2374
03:23:03,660 --> 03:23:09,400
evacuate from the recorded document. This could be accomplished via a separate non-recorded agreement.

2375
03:23:12,350 --> 03:23:18,450
Next steps, county staff should receive the final act in studying memo. Last Thursday and will

2376
03:23:18,450 --> 03:23:25,370
reassessing the 46 pre-application geologic clearances where site-specific geological reports

2377
03:23:25,370 --> 03:23:31,490
for required, revising those where necessary based on the action study results. In the

2378
03:23:31,490 --> 03:23:36,730
coming days, we also plan to finalize the covenant and declaration format to be used by those

2379
03:23:36,730 --> 03:23:43,590
who opt to rebuild for the CZU rebuild directive. County staff will undertake outreach and education

2380
03:23:43,590 --> 03:23:50,110
efforts among the rebuilding community, including development of a frequently asked questions list

2381
03:23:50,110 --> 03:23:55,970
specific to the Actons study on the rebuild website, and hold individual neighborhood community

2382
03:23:55,970 --> 03:23:59,550
meetings among the basins within the Actons detailed study areas.

2383
03:24:00,850 --> 03:24:05,210
County Geologic Engineering staff understand that supporting our rebuilders

2384
03:24:05,210 --> 03:24:10,170
includes supporting their consultants and their interpretation and use of the Actons study data.

2385
03:24:10,170 --> 03:24:22,390
To that end, County staff will meet with Geotechnical Engineers and Geologists to discuss the study results and determine the best way to make the raster data from the study available for their use.

2386
03:24:23,190 --> 03:24:35,030
We strongly encourage those rebuilding and actions detailed study areas to begin discussions with their geotechnical and geologic consultants right away to determine how the data may inform their design options.

2387
03:24:35,030 --> 03:24:43,050
We understand that these steps take time in everyday counts when you're waiting to re establish your family's home.

2388
03:24:43,690 --> 03:24:51,090
But like take this opportunity to dress a concern that has been raised in the rebuilding community regarding the county's winter grading moratorium.

2389
03:24:51,810 --> 03:24:57,030
The prohibits grading activities between October 15th and April 15th.

2390
03:24:57,030 --> 03:25:11,610
This prohibition does not extend to excavations for foundations, utility, trenching, or minor grading activities, as my panties painted when rebuilding in kind, where driveways and infrastructure are already largely established.

2391
03:25:12,750 --> 03:25:23,070
We will continue to listen to feedback from the rebuilding community and evaluate our practices to ensure we can provide options to keep rebuilders building throughout the season.

2392
03:25:24,640 --> 03:25:32,240
I conclude our presentation today and we're interim planning director, Pia Levine,

2393
03:25:33,220 --> 03:25:37,920
David Reed, director of the Office of Response, Recovery, and Resolancy in our County

2394
03:25:37,920 --> 03:25:42,900
Geologists, Jeff Nolan, are present and available to answer any questions from the board.

2395
03:25:49,910 --> 03:26:00,570
I want to say once again, thanks to the fires of the survivors who have been in communication with this board and staff.

2396
03:26:00,670 --> 03:26:06,250
Another staff, besides at once before you, sure there are concerns about the process.

2397
03:26:07,650 --> 03:26:09,770
Let's spend a frustrating experience.

2398
03:26:09,770 --> 03:26:16,790
Our ultimate goal is to provide relief for our survivors and our actions haven't been that successfully to date.

2399
03:26:17,510 --> 03:26:18,750
We need to make adjustments.

2400
03:26:20,550 --> 03:26:27,730
I hope you want to thank members of the Lending Insurance and Real Estate and other fields who have provided feedback to our process.

2401
03:26:28,510 --> 03:26:39,470
And last year I'd like to thank the board for their unanimous support of the date of district five and three efforts to address

2402
03:26:39,470 --> 03:26:42,190
to be building delay caused by the geological hazards

2403
03:26:42,190 --> 03:26:44,530
code of the county of Santa Cruz.

2404
03:26:45,290 --> 03:26:47,890
And by dropping their climate for the CZU survivors

2405
03:26:47,890 --> 03:26:52,090
to address that code 1610 is referred to.

2406
03:26:52,250 --> 03:26:55,950
We have made all a policy designed to reduce the cost

2407
03:26:55,950 --> 03:26:58,950
of time and stress for rebuilding.

2408
03:27:00,830 --> 03:27:02,990
And to further simplify this, I'd like to see

2409
03:27:02,990 --> 03:27:05,690
us go back to utilizing the standard notification

2410
03:27:05,690 --> 03:27:13,130
of geological hazards and endendentification that have been used by this county for many years.

2411
03:27:13,190 --> 03:27:18,810
I think 20, 25 years without negative ramification to the property orders.

2412
03:27:19,630 --> 03:27:24,910
Since our action on September 14, the Board offices have heard from fire survivors and

2413
03:27:24,910 --> 03:27:33,950
for your experts about the, the original, the covenant related to accepting our survivors from

2414
03:27:34,610 --> 03:27:40,190
1610, that it was still too honest and potentially harmful. I say, let's just get back

2415
03:27:40,190 --> 03:27:48,090
to the basic basics and help people get rebuilding as soon as possible. I think without further

2416
03:27:48,090 --> 03:27:52,410
comment from me, I don't know if they had doubt that any other board members have anything at this

2417
03:27:52,410 --> 03:27:58,430
point, but I would like to open that to the public to see if they have any comments.

2418
03:28:13,310 --> 03:28:14,130
Thank you.

2419
03:28:14,470 --> 03:28:14,570
Thank you.

2420
03:28:14,570 --> 03:28:16,250
My name is Becky Steinburner.

2421
03:28:16,350 --> 03:28:22,950
I do not live in the CZU fire area, but I know a lot of people who do who did and who are trying

2422
03:28:22,950 --> 03:28:25,750
to rebuild and it's not an easy task.

2423
03:28:26,070 --> 03:28:27,190
I do live in the mountains.

2424
03:28:27,770 --> 03:28:33,070
And so what happens here today can happen to any of us in the mountains in any disaster.

2425
03:28:33,070 --> 03:28:36,670
So I appreciate the report.

2426
03:28:37,890 --> 03:28:41,690
I had difficulties seeing exactly where those

2427
03:28:41,690 --> 03:28:43,230
virus zones are.

2428
03:28:43,370 --> 03:28:47,810
There was really no way to identify where those are exactly.

2429
03:28:48,510 --> 03:28:51,470
So if we could have some sort of

2430
03:28:51,470 --> 03:28:56,550
marker on those, is it along the river, along the road.

2431
03:28:56,810 --> 03:29:00,450
We are exactly in the county, is it with some road

2432
03:29:00,450 --> 03:29:03,510
identification that will help people.

2433
03:29:04,270 --> 03:29:07,510
I appreciate community foundation doing this study.

2434
03:29:07,910 --> 03:29:12,810
I understand is going to help the county get a lot of money that it would not have been able to get,

2435
03:29:13,010 --> 03:29:15,510
because that's what the grand tours want.

2436
03:29:16,430 --> 03:29:19,870
But I have concern about a private entity,

2437
03:29:20,430 --> 03:29:26,390
funding, private studies that will, in fact, affect public policy.

2438
03:29:26,390 --> 03:29:37,370
And I'm not clear about the claim that it would reduce 20% of structures in the debris flow area.

2439
03:29:37,930 --> 03:29:49,550
Does that mean there will be 20% fewer possible rebuild structures affected that were on the list to have to comply with 1610

2440
03:29:49,550 --> 03:29:54,850
or does it mean that 20% fewer of those structures that were there will be able to be built.

2441
03:29:54,850 --> 03:29:58,490
So some clarification will be very helpful.

2442
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:14,000
And I find it interesting that it focused on debris flow, not landslides, which is something we really do need to know about, but the model that used in Santa Barbara was much different.

2443
03:30:14,880 --> 03:30:22,000
The vegetation was not considered a lot of the topography, but I heard nothing about vegetation.

2444
03:30:23,000 --> 03:30:30,020
The redwood forest is a much different system than the scrub and shaper out of Southern California.

2445
03:30:30,860 --> 03:30:33,900
So the soils and the integrity of the slopes are much different.

2446
03:30:34,020 --> 03:30:35,260
Thank you very much.

2447
03:30:36,240 --> 03:30:37,520
I don't know.

2448
03:30:37,640 --> 03:30:40,040
I don't know if we might have several speakers.

2449
03:30:40,040 --> 03:30:45,600
You just want to take down some notes and if we can answer the questions, would you prefer to answer them right now?

2450
03:30:45,880 --> 03:30:46,880
Wouldn't be your preference?

2451
03:30:50,400 --> 03:30:53,120
If we can answer them right away, I think it'd be good.

2452
03:30:54,420 --> 03:31:09,340
Yeah, so to address the 20% reduction in structures that may be rebuilt, that's it was based on the damage assessments in the in the jail location of the damage assessments conducted post fire.

2453
03:31:09,340 --> 03:31:26,940
And it was a rough approximation because we haven't been able to refine that, we haven't had the data for more than a couple of days now, so it's our best estimate of how many may potentially be rebuilt in those detailed study areas.

2454
03:31:26,940 --> 03:31:37,120
and so from our initial county and state mapping to the refined areas produced by the Atkins study,

2455
03:31:37,420 --> 03:31:45,040
that's where we got the 20% reduction. And then the high risk zones are if you go to our

2456
03:31:45,040 --> 03:31:53,780
the recovery website. There is the Atkins study memo posted and then Atkins study map books.

2457
03:31:54,540 --> 03:32:07,100
There's also an independent GIS viewer for the Ackon study data so that you can actually type in an address and look around and that does have the street names.

2458
03:32:07,640 --> 03:32:15,540
And if you look on the upper right there is a legend that includes the high risk zones if you're interested in that specifically.

2459
03:32:15,540 --> 03:32:19,560
Okay. Thank you. Did you have any of the for the comment?

2460
03:32:21,080 --> 03:32:26,860
It's a very. Yeah, they read director or three. The only other question that was brought up was around vegetation.

2461
03:32:27,360 --> 03:32:38,520
And so it's common that these types of studies, especially in Montecito are repeated on an annual or every other year basis to take into consideration the re vegetation post fire.

2462
03:32:38,520 --> 03:32:44,880
So one option for us would be to look at looking at this type of a study in future years to evaluate how

2463
03:32:44,880 --> 03:32:49,780
Revegitation has changed the risk of for the elevated risk of debris flow.

2464
03:32:51,080 --> 03:32:52,700
Yeah, I just want to I make one

2465
03:32:54,360 --> 03:32:56,700
I'm in a community foundation listen

2466
03:32:56,700 --> 03:33:06,040
We are very thankful that they stepped up and they put $2 million into the study. We didn't have that obviously this was them

2467
03:33:06,040 --> 03:33:13,160
And on scheduled event, so we are very, very supportive and thankful that community foundation

2468
03:33:13,160 --> 03:33:19,020
came to our support and offered the $2 million to have an independent agency to the

2469
03:33:19,020 --> 03:33:19,860
study.

2470
03:33:21,140 --> 03:33:21,740
The next speaker.

2471
03:33:23,520 --> 03:33:26,900
My name is Antonio Bradford and I lost my home in the CZU fire.

2472
03:33:27,040 --> 03:33:30,360
After the last board meeting, it seems the outrage of the community is not falling in

2473
03:33:30,360 --> 03:33:30,640
the fear.

2474
03:33:30,740 --> 03:33:35,500
So I thank the board for continuing this conversation to modify the resolution so it not

2475
03:33:35,500 --> 03:33:40,040
protects the county from liability, but serves the fire communities need to rebuild their homes and

2476
03:33:40,040 --> 03:33:45,180
lies without doing long-term harm. After all, this is to be a contract between two parties and

2477
03:33:45,180 --> 03:33:49,120
it must serve both sides of the table, not just the county. I think that has pertinent that the

2478
03:33:49,120 --> 03:33:52,920
board delay any decision on these new proposed pathways of waivers for two weeks of the community

2479
03:33:52,920 --> 03:33:56,960
and the professionals and the industries related to home ownership have the time to fully

2480
03:33:56,960 --> 03:34:01,820
flesh out with this means for us. In that time, a panel needs to be created so the county can work

2481
03:34:01,820 --> 03:34:04,160
with the fire community rather than against them.

2482
03:34:04,240 --> 03:34:05,500
This panel should include professionals

2483
03:34:05,500 --> 03:34:06,800
from the appropriate industries

2484
03:34:06,800 --> 03:34:08,840
and one or two people from the fire community.

2485
03:34:09,540 --> 03:34:10,780
These are representatives need to be strong

2486
03:34:10,780 --> 03:34:12,240
and vocal advocates from the community

2487
03:34:12,240 --> 03:34:14,440
and not someone who is receiving some kind of compensation

2488
03:34:14,440 --> 03:34:16,720
from the county or otherwise for fire recovery

2489
03:34:16,720 --> 03:34:18,660
since that would be a conflict of interest.

2490
03:34:19,380 --> 03:34:20,880
We need to work together in a transparent

2491
03:34:20,880 --> 03:34:22,800
and honest way to protect all of our best interests

2492
03:34:22,800 --> 03:34:24,960
because thus far it's been incredibly one-sided.

2493
03:34:25,780 --> 03:34:27,180
Lastly, within the resolution itself,

2494
03:34:27,460 --> 03:34:28,400
Pilevine has given herself

2495
03:34:28,400 --> 03:34:30,680
an abundance of discretionary and arbitrary power

2496
03:34:30,680 --> 03:34:34,500
that absolutely must be rained back. Within the code is it stands seemingly

2497
03:34:34,500 --> 03:34:38,040
covenants can be removed from one's D, but it gives no pathways and how to do that

2498
03:34:38,040 --> 03:34:42,080
except by the discretion of the planning director. There needs to be transparent and concise

2499
03:34:42,080 --> 03:34:45,660
protocols that show fire families that choose to get advantage of the covenants specifically

2500
03:34:45,660 --> 03:34:50,000
what they can do to remove it. It cannot be vague or left up to the interpretation of a

2501
03:34:50,000 --> 03:34:54,200
singular individual. The planning director cannot and should not be given that much discretion,

2502
03:34:54,380 --> 03:34:57,720
especially if the best interest of the fire community are truly in the hearts of our elected

2503
03:34:57,720 --> 03:35:01,980
more supervisors. I trust in the last meeting every last one of you has been listening and

2504
03:35:01,980 --> 03:35:06,280
taking in the feedback. Our community and I'm not just taking a fire victims and assist

2505
03:35:06,280 --> 03:35:10,760
the county do better by us. We just want to rebuild our homes and hopefully we're getting closer to doing

2506
03:35:10,760 --> 03:35:12,400
just that. Thank you.

2507
03:35:19,950 --> 03:35:25,950
Hi. I really might down a little please. Oh, sorry. I really thank you for

2508
03:35:25,950 --> 03:35:34,350
taking another look. I know this is a really tiring process to go through. So I agree with

2509
03:35:34,350 --> 03:35:41,310
replacing get ditching the covenant. I'm still not sure why it can be put on the building permit

2510
03:35:41,310 --> 03:35:48,610
because building permits are public records and when you sell your house you disclose that kind of

2511
03:35:48,610 --> 03:35:55,170
information. Also when we bought our house we didn't sign a release of liability so I'm not sure

2512
03:35:55,170 --> 03:36:02,290
why that is necessary and I have some great questions about what you mean by indemnity clause

2513
03:36:02,290 --> 03:36:10,610
because the clause that I saw was really large and exhaustive and puts an enormous burden on

2514
03:36:10,610 --> 03:36:15,550
fire victims for a lot of situations that are out of their control.

2515
03:36:17,090 --> 03:36:25,590
So, and I think I agree with you about the disclosure should be as specific as the county

2516
03:36:25,590 --> 03:36:30,950
can make it based on the Actions report, I really enjoyed reading about that and I hope I

2517
03:36:30,950 --> 03:36:39,870
find it on your site so I can see the specifics and I also agree about if you were denied

2518
03:36:39,870 --> 03:36:46,010
geo-plarence before the akin report I'm glad that you think that we should get that reviewed.

2519
03:36:47,150 --> 03:36:52,050
But I would also like on the disclosure something about the county's intention to

2520
03:36:52,050 --> 03:36:58,050
fund community mitigations and that that would be updated whether it's on the title or the

2521
03:36:58,050 --> 03:37:00,890
when those mitigations take place.

2522
03:37:02,350 --> 03:37:04,730
So thank you again for taking the time.

2523
03:37:05,890 --> 03:37:10,330
And during this ride, and I hope we can make a lot of people

2524
03:37:10,330 --> 03:37:12,670
happy homeowners, including me.

2525
03:37:12,670 --> 03:37:14,090
Thank you.

2526
03:37:17,590 --> 03:37:18,830
I want to stand corrected.

2527
03:37:19,690 --> 03:37:22,870
The ad can study was $200,000, wasn't $2 million.

2528
03:37:23,310 --> 03:37:23,870
I'm sorry.

2529
03:37:27,970 --> 03:37:29,370
Please, I'm sorry, yeah.

2530
03:37:29,910 --> 03:37:31,430
My name is Elena Casada.

2531
03:37:31,430 --> 03:37:37,490
I live in Boulder Creek and I'm one of the lucky ones whose house and neighborhood survived the CZU fire.

2532
03:37:37,790 --> 03:37:41,070
I stand in solidarity with the CZU fire victims.

2533
03:37:41,750 --> 03:37:47,030
I speak on behalf of all of Boulder Creek when I ask you to please support our neighbors who lost

2534
03:37:47,030 --> 03:37:49,710
her house to that awful fire last year.

2535
03:37:50,190 --> 03:37:52,850
You see what happened to them affects all of us.

2536
03:37:53,050 --> 03:37:56,770
It's nothing short of a miracle that Boulder Creek wasn't completely destroyed.

2537
03:37:57,510 --> 03:38:00,750
Even so, it's safe to say that virtually everyone

2538
03:38:00,750 --> 03:38:04,390
in Boulder Creek knows at least someone who lost their homes to the fire.

2539
03:38:05,330 --> 03:38:08,890
In fact, I dare to say most of us know several people who did

2540
03:38:09,370 --> 03:38:12,050
are beloved Holly who runs their ex-center,

2541
03:38:12,330 --> 03:38:13,410
lost her house to the fire.

2542
03:38:13,930 --> 03:38:16,490
Her parents, lost her house to the fire.

2543
03:38:16,670 --> 03:38:18,530
That's the house where she grew up.

2544
03:38:19,210 --> 03:38:21,650
Joko, who owns ease mountain in the moment

2545
03:38:21,650 --> 03:38:24,390
where my husband has practiced yoga for years,

2546
03:38:24,390 --> 03:38:30,630
loss her house to the fire. Jenny, who owns her beloved Chinese restaurant in Boulder Creek,

2547
03:38:30,950 --> 03:38:36,850
loss her house to the fire. Several of my own friends lost their house as well.

2548
03:38:37,430 --> 03:38:45,010
Antonia, Adrian, Cindy, Karen, Brandy, Cherie, many others can very close to losing their homes as well.

2549
03:38:45,410 --> 03:38:50,630
I am talking about the fire coming as close to two feet through their homes.

2550
03:38:50,630 --> 03:39:00,130
So please don't think for a second, we don't care about the CZU fire victims, we do very much so thank you.

2551
03:39:09,520 --> 03:39:12,820
And I'm Connie Lannison here with Anderson Christy Real Estate.

2552
03:39:13,420 --> 03:39:20,800
I am meeting a letter that our brokers wrote and signed by majority of our realtors in our office.

2553
03:39:21,860 --> 03:39:28,480
Dear county supervisors, we wanted to write to you to express our concerns with the resolution and covenant,

2554
03:39:28,480 --> 03:39:34,040
But this easy fire survivors, these restrictions need to be reconsidered to help

2555
03:39:34,040 --> 03:39:39,440
fire survivors rebuild and not be subject to the covenant that has potential

2556
03:39:39,440 --> 03:39:43,540
negative financial implications, below or a few of our concerns.

2557
03:39:44,640 --> 03:39:46,800
The covenant is heavy handed in unfair.

2558
03:39:47,460 --> 03:39:53,040
The covenant indemnifies the county from anything that might happen to the lack of proper permits.

2559
03:39:53,040 --> 03:40:01,760
that it does not endenify lenders with an unknown cost to cure geologic issues and no legal

2560
03:40:01,760 --> 03:40:07,200
protection, conventional lenders wouldn't finance a covenant property when the owners need

2561
03:40:07,200 --> 03:40:12,560
to refinance or for a future buyer at the time of sale. This would drastically impact the

2562
03:40:12,560 --> 03:40:18,700
reseal value as conventional financing would not be available to the buyers. The covenant inadvertently

2563
03:40:18,700 --> 03:40:22,980
effects people who lost their homes while leading surviving neighbors untouched.

2564
03:40:23,540 --> 03:40:27,840
With no obligation to spend money to upgrade their properties to meet current geological

2565
03:40:27,840 --> 03:40:33,120
requirements, with no deed restriction in place, surviving neighbors can refinance and

2566
03:40:33,120 --> 03:40:36,640
fill their homes at fair market value to prospective buyers.

2567
03:40:37,780 --> 03:40:42,840
Much of the CZU burn zone is among the most affordable areas in the Santa Cruz County

2568
03:40:42,840 --> 03:40:43,360
to live.

2569
03:40:43,360 --> 03:40:51,680
So, I'm to teachers, first responders, service employees, retirees, and others who are not as wealthy as homeowners elsewhere in the county.

2570
03:40:52,400 --> 03:41:01,460
In addition, many of the fire survivors were under, under insured to begin with and cannot afford to absorb any additional financial burdens.

2571
03:41:02,400 --> 03:41:12,000
Our fear is that further restrictions and expenses will discourage people from rebuilding and causing to relocate to other areas and reduce the already low inventory of housing.

2572
03:41:12,000 --> 03:41:17,340
We was strongly encouraged you to not realize solely on what the planning department says.

2573
03:41:17,540 --> 03:41:23,060
Rather, give more community input and expert opinions outside of the planning department.

2574
03:41:23,580 --> 03:41:24,800
Thank you very much.

2575
03:41:25,120 --> 03:41:26,000
This is.

2576
03:41:26,780 --> 03:41:29,960
Money land is and I'm Chris Clayton and we're with Anderson Fisty.

2577
03:41:30,080 --> 03:41:34,800
And I also wanted to add that I thank you for sounds like you have been listening to the community.

2578
03:41:35,340 --> 03:41:40,960
And we've been really advocating to all of our realtors and lenders and everyone to speak up and let you know and be heard.

2579
03:41:40,960 --> 03:41:53,500
You know, and so thank you for that. And we hope that whatever you come up with it, it will be reviewed before, you know, by the community again before you decide that's what you're going to do.

2580
03:41:53,820 --> 03:42:00,200
The other thing that I don't know if you're aware of is that we do have a statutory disclosure, but we have a statutory disclosure.

2581
03:42:00,200 --> 03:42:04,080
When we saw a house, it's called a geo hazard report.

2582
03:42:04,780 --> 03:42:06,100
And it's required by the state.

2583
03:42:06,600 --> 03:42:09,000
And now in that, I just had one the other day,

2584
03:42:09,200 --> 03:42:12,080
that it does describe the debris flow area.

2585
03:42:12,500 --> 03:42:15,180
If it is, you know, when you pull up a property,

2586
03:42:16,260 --> 03:42:18,800
it does have it be a parcel by the person number,

2587
03:42:18,820 --> 03:42:21,560
and everything you present that to a potential buyer.

2588
03:42:22,000 --> 03:42:23,880
Again, it's a statutory requirement.

2589
03:42:24,980 --> 03:42:29,140
There's now a category that says debris flow in our county.

2590
03:42:29,140 --> 03:42:33,740
So, and that helps provide information to potential buyer.

2591
03:42:34,240 --> 03:42:34,720
Okay.

2592
03:42:35,160 --> 03:42:37,300
Yeah, I want to thank the real estate community, too,

2593
03:42:37,600 --> 03:42:39,280
for getting in touch with us.

2594
03:42:39,980 --> 03:42:43,980
I've been very kind and kind and really advice as well, received.

2595
03:42:44,120 --> 03:42:44,360
Thank you.

2596
03:42:44,380 --> 03:42:46,860
We're here for them, all of us.

2597
03:42:47,020 --> 03:42:49,780
You know, we have all, we're, I don't care if you are an agent in

2598
03:42:49,780 --> 03:42:51,360
App to us or an agent in Boulder Creek.

2599
03:42:51,420 --> 03:42:53,460
We've all worked with people in these areas.

2600
03:42:54,120 --> 03:42:55,600
It's, it's our first time home buyers.

2601
03:42:55,600 --> 03:43:02,400
I just saw the young couple of property at Burm property and they're in the process of starting to get their permits and they have their power permit

2602
03:43:02,400 --> 03:43:10,220
And they're all excited and I talked to them the other not is they don't sign anything until you know you talked to me

2603
03:43:12,940 --> 03:43:18,600
Here for you guys to reach out to us as well, and we hope to you well. Okay. Thank you

2604
03:43:30,000 --> 03:43:57,060
I'm MC Dwyer, I'm a realtor with EXP and somebody who lost the home that my husband built from scratch with permits about 25 years ago and our mortgages now do every month and nothing has been accomplished other than a powerful permit due to the difficulties of dealing with all the red tape that exists.

2605
03:43:57,340 --> 03:44:03,300
I don't want to repeat everything that everybody else brought up even though I had a prepared statement.

2606
03:44:04,000 --> 03:44:09,680
It's clear that everybody now is aware that these covenants can have unintended consequences.

2607
03:44:11,460 --> 03:44:19,180
And it took us realtors talking to lenders, talking to underwriters, for us to be able to understand them.

2608
03:44:19,180 --> 03:44:26,700
So it would be ideal if we had some input, not only as realtors, but also lenders, because

2609
03:44:26,700 --> 03:44:29,820
they're the ones that get the loans approved.

2610
03:44:31,140 --> 03:44:38,800
As it was written, the covenant would have been devastating, somebody who rebuilt wouldn't

2611
03:44:38,800 --> 03:44:44,040
have been able to refinance, and it's even possible that their lender, once reading the

2612
03:44:44,040 --> 03:44:47,380
having a could have actually called their loan,

2613
03:44:48,220 --> 03:44:51,420
which means they would use all of the fire insurance proceeds

2614
03:44:51,420 --> 03:44:53,320
to pay off the loan.

2615
03:44:54,340 --> 03:44:57,820
And if somebody didn't have the extra money to pay off the loan,

2616
03:44:58,780 --> 03:44:59,980
they could be put into fault.

2617
03:45:01,040 --> 03:45:14,440
And then foreclosed on. And I don't think that's what we want to see. So please involve all of us. We want to help our co-survivors. Thank you.

2618
03:45:25,470 --> 03:45:39,450
But after noon, my name is Julie Lucia. I lost my home in the following leave neighborhood on August 20, 2020. But you may already know that because I've spoken several times now at the board meetings two weeks ago 25 victims spoke out against the proposed covenant.

2619
03:45:39,450 --> 03:45:42,690
Without any discussion, you passed the item.

2620
03:45:42,930 --> 03:45:47,170
This obviously would already made a decision on how you're going to vote before you've been heard of speak.

2621
03:45:47,970 --> 03:45:50,570
Frankly, it felt extremely disorganized and careless.

2622
03:45:51,110 --> 03:45:53,990
We have never felt less heard and less valued,

2623
03:45:54,790 --> 03:45:58,770
and then supervisor-coating challenged us to asking that we provide evidence

2624
03:45:58,770 --> 03:46:02,910
on how this covenant will hurt our property or property values.

2625
03:46:03,270 --> 03:46:07,490
Is this how we deserve to be treated after everything we've gone through and continued to go through?

2626
03:46:07,490 --> 03:46:13,070
I can bet that none of you would want to covenant on your deed so hard to put yourself

2627
03:46:13,070 --> 03:46:13,930
in our shoes.

2628
03:46:14,990 --> 03:46:19,310
Because you can't, you can't imagine to know what we're going through.

2629
03:46:20,010 --> 03:46:24,810
Then why are these decisions continually being made without input from the fire community?

2630
03:46:25,610 --> 03:46:28,890
It's obvious that the county is extremely concerned about their own liability.

2631
03:46:29,250 --> 03:46:35,570
We see that we need representation and we need to be heard two weeks ago I stood here

2632
03:46:35,570 --> 03:46:39,510
And I ask all of you to hold off on a vote that a discussion needs to be had.

2633
03:46:40,030 --> 03:46:42,910
I'm here asking you again to do the same thing.

2634
03:46:43,470 --> 03:46:44,790
This time I hope you hear me.

2635
03:46:44,930 --> 03:46:46,310
I hope you hear all of us today.

2636
03:46:46,750 --> 03:46:52,470
If you truly care about getting families home, have that much needed discussion with fire,

2637
03:46:52,510 --> 03:46:54,950
families and our real estate and lending professionals.

2638
03:46:55,470 --> 03:47:00,710
In order to make a truly beneficial decision that properly serves all of us.

2639
03:47:00,890 --> 03:47:03,590
It's obvious we have a wealth of knowledge and this county.

2640
03:47:03,790 --> 03:47:04,770
We all need to work together.

2641
03:47:04,770 --> 03:47:06,370
Thank you.

2642
03:47:13,510 --> 03:47:20,110
My name is Allison Breeze. My name is Allison Breeze. I'm a property owner and

2643
03:47:20,110 --> 03:47:27,010
Boulder Creek and while my home was not destroyed I had very strong concerns regarding the

2644
03:47:27,010 --> 03:47:33,970
covenant as it was presented two weeks ago. I'm very glad to hear that that is now under reconsideration.

2645
03:47:34,670 --> 03:47:47,990
I've been following closely the clear consensus coming out of the real estate and lending experts in our area and the profound negative consequences that it would have on our wider community.

2646
03:47:48,830 --> 03:47:58,430
The goal of providing disclosures and protecting homebuyers is important and necessary and the concerns of liability are understandable.

2647
03:47:59,470 --> 03:48:14,810
It's my understanding that the real estate and lending businesses have been working together to craft alternative proposals to present to the board to address these issues in a manner that can achieve the county's goals

2648
03:48:14,810 --> 03:48:17,250
Well, at the same time, without causing

2649
03:48:17,250 --> 03:48:20,210
devastating harm to our community as a whole,

2650
03:48:20,910 --> 03:48:24,390
the fire community needs help, and they do need it quickly.

2651
03:48:25,250 --> 03:48:29,950
But rushing into a flawed solution, without completing due diligence,

2652
03:48:30,770 --> 03:48:34,890
to understand the ramifications will cause more harm than good.

2653
03:48:35,410 --> 03:48:37,790
I urge the board to do that due diligence.

2654
03:48:38,130 --> 03:48:40,970
I'm glad to hear it sounds like you're moving in that direction.

2655
03:48:40,970 --> 03:48:45,250
Listen to the experts in the real estate and lending businesses.

2656
03:48:45,990 --> 03:48:50,570
Understand the full consequences of what you're deciding to do.

2657
03:48:50,810 --> 03:48:56,330
Consider alternative proposals without creating harm to your constituents.

2658
03:48:57,490 --> 03:49:02,210
Because our welfare is your responsibility and your duty.

2659
03:49:03,950 --> 03:49:05,590
Thank you very much for listening.

2660
03:49:05,590 --> 03:49:07,290
I was

2661
03:49:20,540 --> 03:49:26,280
debating on speaking and thank you for all the work that you've done to help move

2662
03:49:26,280 --> 03:49:31,960
this issue along everybody and what everybody has said is so true, but I would like to

2663
03:49:31,960 --> 03:49:40,860
take a point about the fairness and the situation of something going on our title that

2664
03:49:40,860 --> 03:49:47,560
our neighbor doesn't have to have and this is in the event that we go to rebuild and we have

2665
03:49:47,560 --> 03:49:57,060
put this on our title that we're going this geological report, whatever that is from a legal

2666
03:49:57,060 --> 03:49:57,740
standpoint.

2667
03:49:58,000 --> 03:50:04,300
And I'd like the lawyers to really pay attention here, come visit us out on our property, come

2668
03:50:04,300 --> 03:50:10,880
and spend some time with us because it seems like the legal tail is wagging the dog in our

2669
03:50:10,880 --> 03:50:11,660
situation.

2670
03:50:12,420 --> 03:50:16,780
And I appreciate the other supervisors, you know, you guys have spent a lot of time on this,

2671
03:50:16,780 --> 03:50:19,100
and you're going to spend a lot more time on this.

2672
03:50:19,380 --> 03:50:25,680
It's like, let's come together and come up with an effective solution that really solves

2673
03:50:25,680 --> 03:50:30,200
this problem for the people that are suffering by suffering, by suffering too on the fire

2674
03:50:30,200 --> 03:50:30,740
of victim.

2675
03:50:31,660 --> 03:50:34,080
So, I really appreciate the time and effort.

2676
03:50:35,100 --> 03:50:37,740
It's just important that we get it right this time.

2677
03:50:38,260 --> 03:50:43,820
And supervisors, the other supervisors, we're going to be involved to help you someday in whatever

2678
03:50:43,820 --> 03:50:45,180
disaster you go through.

2679
03:50:45,180 --> 03:50:48,700
So please, thank you for your time and effort

2680
03:50:48,700 --> 03:50:52,660
in coming up with helping us create a solution.

2681
03:50:53,360 --> 03:50:53,840
Thanks.

2682
03:50:54,480 --> 03:50:55,700
Thank you.

2683
03:51:02,830 --> 03:51:03,190
Hi there.

2684
03:51:03,310 --> 03:51:04,070
My name is Jessica.

2685
03:51:04,390 --> 03:51:07,130
My husband and I lost our home in the CZU fire

2686
03:51:07,130 --> 03:51:10,630
August of 2020, like others, you already know that

2687
03:51:10,630 --> 03:51:12,410
because I've spoken at these meetings.

2688
03:51:13,810 --> 03:51:16,550
And as she said, I'm not going to repeat everything

2689
03:51:16,550 --> 03:51:18,010
that everyone has already decided you guys

2690
03:51:18,010 --> 03:51:24,970
heard it multiple times, there are a couple things I want to point out that I've find flawed

2691
03:51:24,970 --> 03:51:32,590
in this covenant that you're asking us to sign off on. You asked us two weeks ago to come back

2692
03:51:32,590 --> 03:51:36,890
with information from realtors and lenders supporting what we were stating, which we've done

2693
03:51:36,890 --> 03:51:42,190
today, although I still feel the county should have done that before voting two weeks ago on that covenant.

2694
03:51:42,190 --> 03:51:42,410
Okay.

2695
03:51:44,330 --> 03:51:50,070
Um, a couple of weeks ago, two weeks ago, um, our gentleman here spoke to that was an issue

2696
03:51:50,070 --> 03:51:55,710
of public safety, um, and having it be, just supposed to shoot your homeowners, the risk

2697
03:51:55,710 --> 03:52:00,430
of what they are potentially purchasing, um, and I have some issues with this.

2698
03:52:01,010 --> 03:52:06,110
Um, one, the county is issuing permits for temporary housing on these same properties that

2699
03:52:06,110 --> 03:52:15,490
So if the risk is there now, why are temporary housing permits being issued with no mitigation from either the county or the homeowner?

2700
03:52:16,610 --> 03:52:22,530
And I hope you do not take that statement and then stop issuing temporary housing permits because I could see that happening.

2701
03:52:23,190 --> 03:52:24,730
No, not gonna happen.

2702
03:52:25,670 --> 03:52:27,570
You have it on record. He said it's not gonna happen, guys.

2703
03:52:29,830 --> 03:52:32,950
The other thing is not making houses that did not burn sign it.

2704
03:52:32,950 --> 03:52:39,090
We were in the meeting yesterday, and we were told that by trying to get homeowners whose homes did not burn

2705
03:52:39,090 --> 03:52:44,770
to sign it, that it would be considered an overreach of the government, and that they would just shred that document and ignore it.

2706
03:52:45,830 --> 03:52:47,690
It's an overreach to us as well.

2707
03:52:49,710 --> 03:52:55,210
I think his exact word yesterday were, because we need something from the county, they can make a sign this,

2708
03:52:55,730 --> 03:53:01,430
but because those folks whose homes did not burn, don't need anything from the county, that is why they cannot do it.

2709
03:53:01,430 --> 03:53:06,910
So, I don't think it's fair that because we need something from you all that that be held over our head.

2710
03:53:09,850 --> 03:53:12,930
I took some notes because I had not prepared an official statement today.

2711
03:53:13,070 --> 03:53:13,970
I wasn't playing it on talking.

2712
03:53:15,170 --> 03:53:18,910
One of the things we heard is that the county hasn't had people sign this covenant for many years,

2713
03:53:19,190 --> 03:53:20,430
well over a couple of decades now.

2714
03:53:21,590 --> 03:53:22,890
And that's great and bandy.

2715
03:53:22,950 --> 03:53:25,650
I don't think that must necessarily mean that we should continue to do it that way.

2716
03:53:25,750 --> 03:53:29,590
I think folks all too often get stuck in the, this is the way we've always done that mindset.

2717
03:53:29,590 --> 03:53:31,810
And I think things seem to change.

2718
03:53:33,670 --> 03:53:44,130
The other thing we learned is that the covenant is for geological specifically is always triggered when there's a geological, when there's a permit submitted for for geological.

2719
03:53:45,250 --> 03:53:52,170
I don't think that's true. We had a septic system upgraded and solved in 2004. No geological anything was required of our property.

2720
03:53:54,290 --> 03:53:57,410
And as well as when we first started our house, nothing

2721
03:53:57,410 --> 03:54:00,170
geological was disclosed to us.

2722
03:54:01,230 --> 03:54:02,810
Title transfers go through the county.

2723
03:54:02,970 --> 03:54:06,230
There's no reason that can't be triggered at the time of a title transfer as well.

2724
03:54:06,790 --> 03:54:10,330
You guys know every time a house is purchased, go to the assessor's office,

2725
03:54:10,510 --> 03:54:12,910
because you start just access on them so you know it's being sold.

2726
03:54:14,330 --> 03:54:20,210
And the last thing on here is that the not being able to remove it from our deed

2727
03:54:20,210 --> 03:54:28,510
Once the mitigation is either done, or when the risk is decreased over time, which we've

2728
03:54:28,510 --> 03:54:33,070
all acknowledged is in interactions as well, that that risk will decrease over time as the

2729
03:54:33,070 --> 03:54:39,490
Burwantres come by. The fact that we can't move from the deed and that we might be able to

2730
03:54:39,490 --> 03:54:43,970
revise the verbiage as a little ridiculous for us specifically and it does not count for everyone

2731
03:54:43,970 --> 03:54:49,790
here. The land above us that would potentially be coming down is county owned and we were told

2732
03:54:49,790 --> 03:54:52,390
that the county hopes to have funding within three years

2733
03:54:52,390 --> 03:54:54,430
to start the project who mitigating their land.

2734
03:54:54,990 --> 03:54:56,190
So by signing this covenant,

2735
03:54:56,690 --> 03:54:58,930
we're essentially being held liable for land

2736
03:54:58,930 --> 03:55:03,230
that the county owns and has chosen not to mitigate that risk.

2737
03:55:03,710 --> 03:55:06,150
And I'm not okay with signing off that liability

2738
03:55:06,150 --> 03:55:08,110
of the county, it's your land.

2739
03:55:08,470 --> 03:55:10,190
You should be mitigating it.

2740
03:55:10,850 --> 03:55:11,870
And that's it.

2741
03:55:11,870 --> 03:55:12,570
Thank you.

2742
03:55:14,410 --> 03:55:17,270
And so I just want to do ask,

2743
03:55:17,270 --> 03:55:28,290
I'm not a council or Mr. Reed, to address the difference between the draft covenant and the same, and a geological hazards.

2744
03:55:29,230 --> 03:55:45,850
There's very little difference in between those two things are the draft, the covenant, the notice of geologic hazards that we typically require is called a notice, but they both essentially do the same thing.

2745
03:55:47,510 --> 03:56:04,650
So it's a, you know, I'm listening to the testimony and hearing the testimony the same way the board is, and it's a little different than what staff understands our experience to be over the last number of years in requiring these kind of covenants.

2746
03:56:04,650 --> 03:56:20,010
And requiring this kind of identification or requiring this kind of notices to be reported and not seeing the kind of problems that we're hearing that people are worried that they're going to experience.

2747
03:56:22,860 --> 03:56:25,920
I have to say, okay, yes ma'am.

2748
03:56:28,090 --> 03:56:30,730
Hi, my name is Carol Payne.

2749
03:56:31,090 --> 03:56:34,390
I'm a local broker and I've been working

2750
03:56:34,390 --> 03:56:37,230
in the Santa Cruz Mountain since 1984.

2751
03:56:38,230 --> 03:56:41,990
And I'm here mainly in support of the burn victims.

2752
03:56:43,710 --> 03:56:47,490
And to say that the covenant as it was written

2753
03:56:47,490 --> 03:56:51,450
would definitely affect property values.

2754
03:56:51,450 --> 03:56:59,350
and I want to stress that anything that affects property values affects us all, whether we are

2755
03:56:59,350 --> 03:57:08,670
in the zone or not. Because as things go down in value, it has a domino effect and affects

2756
03:57:08,670 --> 03:57:18,990
all of us in this county. I really appreciate that you are revisiting this and I would suggest that

2757
03:57:18,990 --> 03:57:30,670
You consult with an attorney, a real estate attorney, with the idea of writing something

2758
03:57:30,670 --> 03:57:32,170
that will

2759
03:57:34,350 --> 03:57:47,030
be conducive to real estate in the area, as well as doing what you need it to do.

2760
03:57:47,490 --> 03:57:48,270
Sorry.

2761
03:57:48,750 --> 03:57:49,850
I'm a little nervous.

2762
03:57:49,910 --> 03:57:50,390
Are you fine?

2763
03:57:50,390 --> 03:57:53,030
Thank you. Thank you

2764
03:57:56,360 --> 03:57:58,920
very much to anyone else who would like to address this.

2765
03:58:00,280 --> 03:58:05,260
Do anybody on the phone? Yes, I have to. I'm speaker. Katie Webb, your microphone is available.

2766
03:58:21,930 --> 03:58:22,130
Yes.

2767
03:58:22,690 --> 03:58:30,450
Okay, thank you so much. So my name is Katie Webb and I'm a resident of the Burnary and Swan and I'm also a Board of

2768
03:58:30,450 --> 03:58:32,790
director, some member of the Dow import,

2769
03:58:32,910 --> 03:58:34,330
no North Coast Association.

2770
03:58:35,430 --> 03:58:38,190
I want to speak specifically on the portion of the study

2771
03:58:38,190 --> 03:58:39,950
that examined the brief flow risk

2772
03:58:39,950 --> 03:58:41,510
for the Scott's Creek Watershed,

2773
03:58:41,670 --> 03:58:44,950
which is the primary drainage for the Swanton Valley area

2774
03:58:44,950 --> 03:58:46,070
on the North Coast.

2775
03:58:46,410 --> 03:58:49,390
It's listed as zone 14 in the Acton study.

2776
03:58:50,090 --> 03:58:51,810
There are several inconsistencies

2777
03:58:51,810 --> 03:58:53,790
in how the study treated Scott's Creek

2778
03:58:53,790 --> 03:58:56,010
compared to the other drainage is in the study.

2779
03:58:56,530 --> 03:58:58,650
First, the Acton's report states

2780
03:58:58,650 --> 03:59:11,570
that the debris flow calculations were not completed for the South's Creek drainage, meaning that no refinement or further analysis of the actual risk occurred, even though doing so within the scope of the work of the study.

2781
03:59:12,370 --> 03:59:26,190
Second, on the GIS layer map detailing the study results, the entire South's Creek drainage is mapped without any refinement as being within the high-risk primary debris flow path, as determined by the actions.

2782
03:59:26,190 --> 03:59:32,690
In conflict with this, Scott's Creek is also matched as not having been part of the detailed study.

2783
03:59:33,170 --> 03:59:36,730
Two scenarios, which cannot both exist at the same time.

2784
03:59:37,550 --> 03:59:42,450
Scott's Creek is the only drainage included in the study that did not receive detailed study,

2785
03:59:42,890 --> 03:59:46,550
and therefore refinement of the county's previous worst case scenario modeling.

2786
03:59:47,330 --> 03:59:53,290
I asked the board to return to Atkins to ask them to complete calculations for Scott's Creek

2787
03:59:53,290 --> 03:59:56,150
to achieve the refinement that was originally sought.

2788
03:59:56,590 --> 03:59:59,970
If that is not possible, I ask the big excludes God's creep from theirs.

2789
04:00:00,270 --> 04:00:09,430
And the resulting mapping, entirely to avoid false information about which parcels lay in the primary degree flip path in which to not.

2790
04:00:10,310 --> 04:00:15,690
Lumping's got screeching with the other drainages in the study as having benefited from refinement calculations.

2791
04:00:16,330 --> 04:00:28,250
When it has not is inequitable and misleading, this false mapping and lack of analysis not only affects rebuilding requirements, but also impacts insurance availability,

2792
04:00:28,250 --> 04:00:34,230
the lending opportunities access to mitigation funding and future development potential.

2793
04:00:34,670 --> 04:00:41,070
I ask you to consider these study issues before accepting the report is complete and accurate.

2794
04:00:41,910 --> 04:00:42,950
Thank you for your time.

2795
04:00:45,030 --> 04:00:45,930
Have you ever another call?

2796
04:00:46,330 --> 04:00:46,430
Yes.

2797
04:00:46,870 --> 04:00:48,330
Credence, your microphone is available.

2798
04:00:52,860 --> 04:00:53,080
Hello.

2799
04:00:53,700 --> 04:00:54,380
Thank you.

2800
04:00:54,420 --> 04:00:58,860
I wasn't planning on speaking today, so my comments are going to be a little scattered

2801
04:00:58,860 --> 04:01:00,640
and I apologize for that in advance.

2802
04:01:00,640 --> 04:01:14,760
But when I heard the County Council say that the proposed notice from last meeting versus the historic notices were equal, I felt I had to speak up.

2803
04:01:15,360 --> 04:01:24,320
So just from a very, very simple standpoint, the prior notices that I reviewed are all in the four to five paragraph range.

2804
04:01:24,320 --> 04:01:30,080
The proposed notice from last week has upwards of 22 paragraphs.

2805
04:01:31,620 --> 04:01:34,500
The old notices have a very simple.

2806
04:01:34,820 --> 04:01:37,960
The first paragraph kind of says, this is who I am.

2807
04:01:38,120 --> 04:01:39,440
This is where I live.

2808
04:01:39,820 --> 04:01:42,940
The second paragraph says, we acknowledge there's reports.

2809
04:01:43,340 --> 04:01:47,360
The third says we understand the hazards and indemnify the county.

2810
04:01:47,440 --> 04:01:52,080
The fourth says the declaration runs with the land of the painting director can remove it.

2811
04:01:52,080 --> 04:02:01,040
Very simple, very straightforward. Now I know I'm going to run out of my two minutes before I get through the next one, but the next one, go ahead, go ahead.

2812
04:02:01,420 --> 04:02:06,540
The next one starts with, you know, I am the property, this is where it is, and I'm the owner.

2813
04:02:07,040 --> 04:02:13,200
The second is, you know, kind of some just kind of legal these regarding the national flu insurance.

2814
04:02:14,040 --> 04:02:16,560
The next kind of talks about CZU.

2815
04:02:16,560 --> 04:02:31,360
The way you really start getting into issues is it goes on and on and on and saying the property owner is aware, it says the property owner will pay for county council to effectively protect, you know, pay for how does it go.

2816
04:02:31,360 --> 04:02:42,260
identifies the county and requires them to protect the county for many lawsuits and all that.

2817
04:02:43,300 --> 04:02:47,740
And just I forgot to mention those of you that know me, my name's Treetin Shah.

2818
04:02:47,860 --> 04:02:53,760
I'm a contractor with the community foundation. I've been I was a lender for many years with

2819
04:02:53,760 --> 04:02:58,140
Santa Cruz County Bank and the Chief Court officer there. Just to give you a little background

2820
04:02:58,140 --> 04:03:01,580
for an answer. I'm in. Thank you very much.

2821
04:03:01,940 --> 04:03:03,140
Thank you.

2822
04:03:06,720 --> 04:03:07,240
Mark.

2823
04:03:07,660 --> 04:03:08,180
Mark.

2824
04:03:10,990 --> 04:03:13,150
Yes, hello. Good afternoon. Thank you, everyone.

2825
04:03:14,250 --> 04:03:17,430
Mark Swisher with Cal Poly at Swan Pacific Ranch.

2826
04:03:19,430 --> 04:03:25,970
I would like to first reiterate what Miss Webb had stated regarding the technical content of that.

2827
04:03:25,970 --> 04:03:34,690
report as it relates to the swan area. I asked the board to reconsider, re-evaluate that particular

2828
04:03:34,690 --> 04:03:42,090
geographic area, consistent with the other areas evaluated in the technical report. In addition

2829
04:03:42,090 --> 04:03:49,530
to that, I have a couple of questions that are, excuse me, comments specific to the CZU rebuild

2830
04:03:49,530 --> 04:03:57,890
directive. The first being that the board consider allowing building permits for non-habitable

2831
04:03:57,890 --> 04:04:04,650
or temporary structures through this rebuild directive and allowing those permits to be

2832
04:04:04,650 --> 04:04:11,710
issued exempt from any sort of covenant or title restriction being recorded. In addition to that,

2833
04:04:12,690 --> 04:04:18,250
I asked the board to please consider relaxing the incline restrictions on this directive

2834
04:04:18,250 --> 04:04:23,270
as some property owners may desire to combine structures,

2835
04:04:23,730 --> 04:04:27,070
square footage of structures for more resilient or sustainable development,

2836
04:04:28,170 --> 04:04:33,450
and or rebuild a lesser footprint, square footage wise.

2837
04:04:34,250 --> 04:04:35,090
Thank you for your time.

2838
04:04:37,950 --> 04:04:38,790
There are no other speakers.

2839
04:04:39,590 --> 04:04:40,890
We do have another speaker here.

2840
04:04:41,610 --> 04:04:42,150
My

2841
04:04:46,820 --> 04:04:47,900
name is Renee King.

2842
04:04:47,980 --> 04:04:49,200
I'm in Boulder Creek.

2843
04:04:49,520 --> 04:04:53,600
I was in the fallen leaf neighborhood at one point and we moved

2844
04:04:53,600 --> 04:05:00,920
and of course, the fire did come within two feet to 10 feet from our current house where we live now.

2845
04:05:01,320 --> 04:05:08,480
I'm hearing from the realtors and I went myself and talked to realtors and lenders and I also talked to our insurance broker.

2846
04:05:09,220 --> 04:05:21,200
And one of the things I'm not hearing up here and from the mention last time everybody was here was find up from if insurance will be a problem with that covenant or any covenant and it will.

2847
04:05:21,780 --> 04:05:32,100
The fire families will have a really hard time either increasing their insurance or, I mean, the minute you mention it, it could be that they get canceled.

2848
04:05:32,680 --> 04:05:37,160
That covenant will have a big sway with insurance as well.

2849
04:05:37,580 --> 04:05:40,280
And that is not being mentioned here at all.

2850
04:05:40,460 --> 04:05:47,560
So you need to think about that long and hard before you do that. People already get canceled once they put it in a claim for a fire.

2851
04:05:48,160 --> 04:05:51,560
Um, this, you guys need to think about that.

2852
04:05:53,120 --> 04:05:55,880
Thank you. Yes, we haven't done it. I know the state has changed.

2853
04:05:56,160 --> 04:05:58,020
It's some of it's policy. It's pretty clear.

2854
04:06:00,220 --> 04:06:02,140
It's all. It's all right. Oh, my.

2855
04:06:08,040 --> 04:06:09,260
Oh, what's up?

2856
04:06:09,840 --> 04:06:11,260
My name is Alex Cortinas.

2857
04:06:11,840 --> 04:06:15,880
My dad is the cool brown guy that you tried to film like he don't know two weeks ago.

2858
04:06:16,460 --> 04:06:17,360
But I know you know him.

2859
04:06:18,140 --> 04:06:19,260
But that's all right.

2860
04:06:20,340 --> 04:06:24,060
I prepared a statement and I'm probably not going to read all of it because I don't want to be

2861
04:06:24,060 --> 04:06:27,720
that horse and you don't need to hear all the same things over and over again.

2862
04:06:28,500 --> 04:06:33,160
Unfortunately, I could not be here last week or two weeks ago, rather because who in the world is

2863
04:06:33,160 --> 04:06:39,080
free at 130 on a Tuesday? Why have you not gone out of your way to make yourselves more available

2864
04:06:39,080 --> 04:06:43,860
to the fire community? You can answer that, that's not a rhetorical question.

2865
04:06:44,960 --> 04:06:51,260
Nothing, all right, cool. So, I think the main issue is that everyone here,

2866
04:06:51,260 --> 04:06:53,260
at least on this side of the room is too proud

2867
04:06:53,260 --> 04:06:55,120
to admit that they have no idea what they're doing.

2868
04:06:55,520 --> 04:06:56,540
And it's not your fault.

2869
04:06:56,900 --> 04:06:58,280
But you're in over your heads,

2870
04:06:59,020 --> 04:07:00,480
the blinding departments have never dealt with something

2871
04:07:00,480 --> 04:07:01,180
like this before.

2872
04:07:01,200 --> 04:07:02,520
And I hope that you never have to, again,

2873
04:07:02,600 --> 04:07:05,300
I really hope that there's not any kind of natural disaster

2874
04:07:05,300 --> 04:07:08,680
to be a fire or a flood because it fucking sucks to deal with.

2875
04:07:08,980 --> 04:07:11,180
I didn't even lose my house, my parents did,

2876
04:07:11,400 --> 04:07:14,020
but it's such a miserable feeling to see people suffering

2877
04:07:14,020 --> 04:07:16,440
and you literally can't do anything to make them feel better.

2878
04:07:17,000 --> 04:07:19,420
And you guys made it seem like you would a year ago,

2879
04:07:19,420 --> 04:07:21,640
But my parents still don't have a house.

2880
04:07:22,640 --> 04:07:23,040
Why?

2881
04:07:23,780 --> 04:07:26,140
The reason is because the planning department

2882
04:07:26,140 --> 04:07:27,660
has no idea what they're doing.

2883
04:07:28,140 --> 04:07:30,740
Pile of the in as a undergraduate degree.

2884
04:07:31,060 --> 04:07:34,000
I'm like 100 years ago when college acceptance rates

2885
04:07:34,000 --> 04:07:35,380
were like 100%.

2886
04:07:35,380 --> 04:07:37,940
All you had to do was fill out the form in you there.

2887
04:07:39,200 --> 04:07:42,380
Mr. Chair, can we pause the time?

2888
04:07:42,420 --> 04:07:42,800
Yes.

2889
04:07:43,480 --> 04:07:48,100
I understand the frustration, but personal attacks against people.

2890
04:07:48,100 --> 04:07:50,920
A, are on true and unfair.

2891
04:07:51,740 --> 04:07:54,460
B, make me not want to listen to anything you have to say.

2892
04:07:54,840 --> 04:07:59,740
So if you can figure out a way to make your point without personally attacking people,

2893
04:08:00,220 --> 04:08:02,700
I think we're all going to get in up in a much better place.

2894
04:08:02,980 --> 04:08:04,660
We've heard the comments last week.

2895
04:08:05,200 --> 04:08:06,080
We're changing direction.

2896
04:08:06,860 --> 04:08:10,000
We're trying to find we're bringing in outside planning consultants.

2897
04:08:10,340 --> 04:08:11,660
We've lowered the fees.

2898
04:08:11,940 --> 04:08:13,620
We're working on what we can do.

2899
04:08:13,840 --> 04:08:15,660
It's we're balancing a lot of competing interests.

2900
04:08:15,660 --> 04:08:21,580
But personal attacks are way, way out of line, and unprofessional in this environment.

2901
04:08:21,780 --> 04:08:22,100
Thanks.

2902
04:08:22,240 --> 04:08:23,620
Well, I'm not being paid to be here.

2903
04:08:23,760 --> 04:08:28,680
But anyway, the bottom line is that you guys keep playing games with people.

2904
04:08:28,880 --> 04:08:30,220
And I don't know if it's intentional.

2905
04:08:30,620 --> 04:08:33,700
But at a certain point, one has to ask what the motivation is.

2906
04:08:33,940 --> 04:08:37,020
Because you say that you want to make things easy and streamline the process.

2907
04:08:37,600 --> 04:08:40,920
But then you have these like surprised contingencies where like,

2908
04:08:40,920 --> 04:08:46,380
Apparently now we need to go find outside consultants to prove to you that there's going to be

2909
04:08:46,380 --> 04:08:49,340
impacts when someone wants to refinance their house to get insurance.

2910
04:08:49,820 --> 04:08:52,400
That's something that the board should have researched ahead of time.

2911
04:08:52,580 --> 04:08:54,660
Last meeting, I watched it.

2912
04:08:54,720 --> 04:08:59,140
You all talked so much about empathy, but I really don't think that it's registered with you.

2913
04:08:59,420 --> 04:09:04,240
You really haven't taken the time to fathom what it's like to lose things that you cherish and love.

2914
04:09:04,280 --> 04:09:06,720
Things that you spent your whole life building and working towards.

2915
04:09:08,040 --> 04:09:13,660
I don't really know what that feeling is like either because I don't own a house, but it's

2916
04:09:13,660 --> 04:09:18,340
just really unfair that you guys keep throwing curve balls at these people who just want

2917
04:09:18,340 --> 04:09:22,280
their lives to go back to normal. I really don't think it's registering with you how

2918
04:09:22,280 --> 04:09:27,600
attending this whole situation has been for everyone. I mean, it really seems like the only

2919
04:09:27,600 --> 04:09:31,640
outcome of the situation due to how long you've dragged it on this entire time, is that

2920
04:09:31,640 --> 04:09:35,080
you're just going to end up with more mentally ill homeless people in Santa Cruz County.

2921
04:09:38,260 --> 04:09:45,080
I just, I don't know what I want to hear to be completely frank if I could wave a magic bond

2922
04:09:45,080 --> 04:09:45,980
and give everyone permits.

2923
04:09:46,180 --> 04:09:47,040
I think that that would be cool.

2924
04:09:47,080 --> 04:09:47,880
And I could totally do it.

2925
04:09:48,460 --> 04:09:49,620
But I can't.

2926
04:09:51,080 --> 04:09:56,310
I think the main issue is just the planning department and not they have way too much power

2927
04:09:56,640 --> 04:09:57,520
in what they're doing.

2928
04:09:57,900 --> 04:10:02,080
I think it's great that you've gone and consulted outside firms.

2929
04:10:02,080 --> 04:10:05,080
And I think it's good to continue these studies and do them in the future.

2930
04:10:05,300 --> 04:10:08,080
Come back next year and then you're after see what is growing.

2931
04:10:08,440 --> 04:10:10,860
See how impacts to reflow and things like that.

2932
04:10:11,120 --> 04:10:13,440
But yes, as it was mentioned, the ecosystem and the geology and

2933
04:10:13,440 --> 04:10:15,560
Santa Barbara County is not the same as Santa Cruz County.

2934
04:10:15,860 --> 04:10:16,540
You can't compare them.

2935
04:10:16,720 --> 04:10:18,320
It's good to have something to reference.

2936
04:10:18,860 --> 04:10:20,920
But nobody is going to have all the data for that.

2937
04:10:21,260 --> 04:10:23,820
The real reason of fire of this magnitude happened, unfortunately,

2938
04:10:24,100 --> 04:10:25,620
is really because of genocide.

2939
04:10:26,640 --> 04:10:29,920
The California Indians that live here, the alony and across the state,

2940
04:10:29,920 --> 04:10:35,420
understand that fire is a tool one to be used to bolster ecological health and not

2941
04:10:35,420 --> 04:10:38,840
unfortunately hasn't happened since the colonization.

2942
04:11:15,810 --> 04:11:17,970
So anyway, I'd like to address this.

2943
04:11:19,550 --> 04:11:25,050
I'll bring the conversation back to the Board of Supervisors. I'll be calling the

2944
04:11:25,050 --> 04:11:30,590
Supervisor Coonerty, who's just with the other District 3 that was certainly impacted by the

2945
04:11:30,590 --> 04:11:35,490
do you fire surcharge a community? Sure. Thank you Mr. Chair.

2946
04:11:37,530 --> 04:11:40,630
So this report as core is an extremely

2947
04:11:40,630 --> 04:11:46,050
technical report and a valuable report and we're grateful to the community foundation for funding it

2948
04:11:47,050 --> 04:11:53,550
as a way to reduce some of the burden on fire victims as well as allow us to compete for more

2949
04:11:53,550 --> 04:11:58,810
resilience grants and other opportunities in the future. I think it's important to take a step back.

2950
04:11:58,810 --> 04:12:05,870
It's been 13 months since the county has suffered the largest natural disaster in its history.

2951
04:12:07,150 --> 04:12:16,210
And the victims who are our neighbors, our co-workers people that worked in the Board of Supervisors offices,

2952
04:12:18,190 --> 04:12:22,810
or the CAO's office. These are friends. These are people I grew up with.

2953
04:12:22,810 --> 04:12:32,070
We love ones, people, co-workers, lost their home, and it's been difficult for a variety of reasons for them to rebuild.

2954
04:12:33,690 --> 04:12:36,650
And we have a duty that help people get back home.

2955
04:12:36,950 --> 04:12:37,710
This is possible.

2956
04:12:37,890 --> 04:12:43,150
And as I mentioned, we've been trying by bringing it outside permitting firm by reducing,

2957
04:12:43,150 --> 04:12:51,550
training line in the process, reducing various barriers and fees to make that as possible along

2958
04:12:51,550 --> 04:12:59,290
the way. And as we've worked through various barriers, we've tried to work through them and around

2959
04:12:59,290 --> 04:13:08,350
them. And if the last meeting, I think we try to take a step forward to help reduce another barrier

2960
04:13:08,350 --> 04:13:18,790
And we also got good feedback and helpful feedback from the community, both fire victims and real estate professionals and lenders that are helped us move forward.

2961
04:13:20,350 --> 04:13:24,910
I do want to say that county staff,

2962
04:13:25,590 --> 04:13:28,450
a pile of being, Carolyn Burke, Dave Reed,

2963
04:13:28,670 --> 04:13:31,470
have been at the entire county staff,

2964
04:13:32,110 --> 04:13:35,150
have worked nights and weekends tirelessly

2965
04:13:35,150 --> 04:13:38,970
trying to help people rebuild after this natural disaster

2966
04:13:38,970 --> 04:13:44,910
in the context of COVID, in the context of a lot of different challenges,

2967
04:13:44,910 --> 04:13:52,270
budget cuts and everything else and I'm proud to be affiliated with them and I'm proud of their

2968
04:13:52,270 --> 04:13:58,770
support service. I also want to note many of the people who have spoken today are in a

2969
04:13:58,770 --> 04:14:04,830
surprise from a person's district, a surprise of McPherson and his team and my team have been

2970
04:14:04,830 --> 04:14:12,830
working long, long weeks for more than a year trying to help fire survivors meeting and talking

2971
04:14:12,830 --> 04:14:20,130
people on a most daily basis hearing their pain and their challenges and their hopes and doing what

2972
04:14:20,130 --> 04:14:26,990
we can. So in this context it was mentioned what are we trying to do and the reality is we're trying

2973
04:14:26,990 --> 04:14:33,390
to do a couple of weeks. We have a duty to the fire survivors to help them return safely. We have a

2974
04:14:33,390 --> 04:14:39,070
duty to future home buyers and renters to make sure that they're safe in a world where we're going to

2975
04:14:39,070 --> 04:14:46,270
have more intense floods, more intense fires, more intense debris flows and beyond.

2976
04:14:46,950 --> 04:14:51,430
And we have a duty to the health and safety of our residents now and into the future.

2977
04:14:52,390 --> 04:14:59,970
We have duty to the taxpayers to make sure that if people are by.

2978
04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:10,560
We're passing part of the process that we are making taxpayers liable for future costs down the line.

2979
04:15:11,240 --> 04:15:15,780
And so we're trying to find a balance of all those different competing interests.

2980
04:15:16,960 --> 04:15:22,380
And a way that works with a be lending market and the real estate market.

2981
04:15:22,520 --> 04:15:26,360
It does disadvantage either people now or into the future.

2982
04:15:26,360 --> 04:15:33,980
And so in that context, I want to appreciate everyone who's participated and I'm going to

2983
04:15:33,980 --> 04:15:38,540
and because I think you're making this process better and you're in but there's been

2984
04:15:38,540 --> 04:15:46,360
listened to and improved upon and so I'm going to move the recommended action and then I'm going to add additional direction that

2985
04:15:46,360 --> 04:15:55,000
that the OR-3 planning and other county departments continue community outreach and engagement

2986
04:15:55,000 --> 04:15:59,200
on the implementation of the CZU rebuild directive.

2987
04:16:01,020 --> 04:16:01,180
Thank you.

2988
04:16:01,500 --> 04:16:07,340
The recommended actions for the, the, the, the, to notify, utilize the notification

2989
04:16:07,340 --> 04:16:15,140
of theological hazards, record document, and that our standard practice, what is the template

2990
04:16:15,140 --> 04:16:19,940
rather than a draft covenant that was referenced to on September 14th.

2991
04:16:22,040 --> 04:16:29,660
Yeah, that it's so it's the recommended actions, which is the presentation on the results,

2992
04:16:29,780 --> 04:16:36,160
so the act is to brief flow and the folks in Swanton who brought up issues around that.

2993
04:16:36,840 --> 04:16:43,860
My office will work with you on addressing those questions and comments. And then item number two is to

2994
04:16:43,860 --> 04:16:47,400
the REC staff to consider information from the study

2995
04:16:47,400 --> 04:16:50,300
when implementing the CZU rebuild directive resolution

2996
04:16:50,960 --> 04:16:54,580
2 to 6-202 with regards to recorded documents

2997
04:16:54,580 --> 04:16:57,820
and agrees that they vary from the covenant presented

2998
04:16:57,820 --> 04:17:03,120
on September 14th, 2021 in order to provide additional options

2999
04:17:03,760 --> 04:17:07,360
to permit to permitties, and then the additional direction

3000
04:17:07,360 --> 04:17:11,780
would be that the staff continue to do outreach

3001
04:17:11,780 --> 04:17:22,400
and run any additional requirements or legal documents past people who are in both the real

3002
04:17:22,400 --> 04:17:27,280
stay market and fire survivors and community broadly to make sure that we don't have any

3003
04:17:27,280 --> 04:17:28,880
anything to do with the consequences.

3004
04:17:29,320 --> 04:17:29,780
A second.

3005
04:17:30,660 --> 04:17:30,920
Okay.

3006
04:17:31,240 --> 04:17:32,160
Second by second.

3007
04:17:32,340 --> 04:17:32,400
Second by second.

3008
04:17:32,400 --> 04:17:33,080
Supervisor Friend.

3009
04:17:33,260 --> 04:17:34,040
Did you have any comments?

3010
04:17:34,540 --> 04:17:35,880
Supervisor Friend.

3011
04:17:36,500 --> 04:17:38,060
I don't know if you can Mr. Chair.

3012
04:17:43,590 --> 04:17:44,250
You've

3013
04:17:51,260 --> 04:18:05,160
been through an extraordinarily tough year, and more so than most people, and, you know, everybody got us gone through something to the past year, but what you've got through is

3014
04:18:22,080 --> 04:18:36,320
Thank you for your participation and being here back this. I think it's going to come back to the board on October 19th and it's that correct.

3015
04:18:36,320 --> 04:18:36,700
But

3016
04:18:42,720 --> 04:18:44,480
that wasn't listed as part of the direction.

3017
04:18:44,840 --> 04:18:46,800
So I thought it would have been, okay.

3018
04:18:47,460 --> 04:18:48,720
Okay, very good.

3019
04:18:49,260 --> 04:18:49,500
Okay.

3020
04:18:51,730 --> 04:18:52,750
Thank you.

3021
04:18:58,020 --> 04:19:00,040
So long as short of as we ease the covenants,

3022
04:19:07,660 --> 04:19:09,990
we will, thank you.

3023
04:19:12,500 --> 04:19:16,700
We will now move to item number 13 to approve the 2021 year

3024
04:19:16,700 --> 04:19:19,740
in financial budget, report and direct the county administrative office

3025
04:19:19,740 --> 04:19:25,000
to return by January 11th, 2022 with a budget update

3026
04:19:25,000 --> 04:19:32,780
for fiscal year 2021-22 and a forecast of fiscal year 2022-23 has recommended by the County

3027
04:19:32,780 --> 04:19:37,780
Administrative Officer. I think I'm interested in my room. Would we present?

3028
04:19:44,750 --> 04:19:50,170
In Chair McPherson and members of the board, Christine Amarri, your County Budget Manager.

3029
04:19:51,490 --> 04:19:58,290
I'm going to provide you a brief overview of the 2021 year in report and a review of the adopted

3030
04:19:58,290 --> 04:20:02,170
to have 2021, 2022 budget, which you will be considered.

3031
04:20:02,370 --> 04:20:03,070
Just one more, let's go.

3032
04:20:03,390 --> 04:20:04,650
Let's just close the door.

3033
04:20:06,270 --> 04:20:06,290
Yeah.

3034
04:20:06,450 --> 04:20:07,230
Thank you.

3035
04:20:07,390 --> 04:20:07,510
Thank you.

3036
04:20:07,590 --> 04:20:10,650
I'm going to go around the far as to make that.

3037
04:20:12,630 --> 04:20:13,090
It is.

3038
04:20:13,410 --> 04:20:16,490
Well, I'm in my mask on, so I'll do my best here.

3039
04:20:16,590 --> 04:20:17,310
Has that better?

3040
04:20:17,390 --> 04:20:17,570
Yeah.

3041
04:20:18,410 --> 04:20:18,930
OK.

3042
04:20:21,880 --> 04:20:27,980
So we're going to provide you a brief overview to the 2020, 2021 year

3043
04:20:27,980 --> 04:20:30,060
in report, last fiscal year.

3044
04:20:30,060 --> 04:20:40,180
And a review of the adopted 2021-22 budget, which you will be considering in more detail on the next item, 14, presented by the author,

3045
04:20:40,380 --> 04:20:41,880
control a treasure tax collector.

3046
04:20:43,300 --> 04:20:44,680
So next slide.

3047
04:20:45,500 --> 04:20:47,580
So here you'll see an overview.

3048
04:20:48,280 --> 04:20:53,060
I'll be covering some of the county expenditure estimates, compared to the final

3049
04:20:53,060 --> 04:21:00,380
actually will focus on the general fund financing and how the year ended and then we'll take

3050
04:21:00,380 --> 04:21:06,740
look at the 2021-22 county budget expenditures as they've been finalized with all the adjustments.

3051
04:21:07,780 --> 04:21:13,120
The general fund financing will look at contingencies, the reserves, and then a summary of

3052
04:21:13,120 --> 04:21:17,040
our challenges and possible solutions. Next slide.

3053
04:21:19,900 --> 04:21:23,440
Here is a summary of the 2021 county budget

3054
04:21:23,440 --> 04:21:29,800
expenditures compared to estimates relied on during the recommended budget and compared to the final

3055
04:21:29,800 --> 04:21:38,720
actuals at year end. The 2021 expenditure actuals were less than estimated at our midyear report

3056
04:21:38,720 --> 04:21:48,680
by 45.5 million of which 56.4 million were obligations in combat at year end that are now

3057
04:21:48,680 --> 04:21:54,900
for it included in the appropriations for 2021-22 adopted budget.

3058
04:21:55,920 --> 04:21:59,540
The general fund had an increase compared to the mid-year estimates.

3059
04:22:00,240 --> 04:22:04,980
Primarily from the increased costs related to the continued emergency response,

3060
04:22:05,740 --> 04:22:09,760
Primarily funded from FEMA and the American Rescue Plan funding.

3061
04:22:11,040 --> 04:22:16,540
The majority of unspent other funds are grant funded and are re-budgeted with the offsetting

3062
04:22:16,540 --> 04:22:20,540
revenue to the 2021-22 adopted budget.

3063
04:22:21,740 --> 04:22:22,560
Next slide.

3064
04:22:24,880 --> 04:22:28,860
Here is a summary of the general fund financing for 2021,

3065
04:22:29,380 --> 04:22:30,420
compared to the estimates.

3066
04:22:31,240 --> 04:22:36,940
Overall, the general revenues budget had 34.6 million more

3067
04:22:36,940 --> 04:22:45,560
in funding received, offset by 20.3 million more in

3068
04:22:45,560 --> 04:22:53,200
27.5 million better compared to the original budget before any reductions of the year and in

3069
04:22:53,200 --> 04:22:59,520
conferences, which are cared for, which we do have obligations to pay, but it was 12.6 million,

3070
04:23:00,240 --> 04:23:08,860
which are now carried to the 2021-22 budget, leaving 14.9 million in fund balance before any

3071
04:23:08,860 --> 04:23:14,920
other year into just funds, which the auditor is going to cover in more detail. So of that,

3072
04:23:14,920 --> 04:23:18,760
So I know the big question always is, well, how much do we have left over at the end of the year?

3073
04:23:19,520 --> 04:23:28,300
So of that 14.9 million, the other will be addressing gas B84, we did discuss it during budget hearings.

3074
04:23:28,480 --> 04:23:30,840
That's the government accounting standards board.

3075
04:23:32,000 --> 04:23:39,060
Proclamation that required us to review all of our trust funds and include those now in the part of the general fund.

3076
04:23:39,060 --> 04:23:49,340
So we have some additional adjustments, so points, about 600,000 of those remaining funds were restricted for those special purposes.

3077
04:23:50,360 --> 04:24:01,540
And then we had already planned in the proposed budget to set aside $3 million in to reserves of the amount that we knew we were going to have in excess of mid-year.

3078
04:24:01,540 --> 04:24:12,200
So that leaves us about $11.3 million in additional funding at year end and the question is what do we do with those funds?

3079
04:24:12,660 --> 04:24:17,120
So those funds were allocated as follows and are included in the 2021-22 budget.

3080
04:24:18,540 --> 04:24:23,960
We increased our reserves beyond the $3 million by $4.6 million.

3081
04:24:23,960 --> 04:24:38,600
And that allowed us to achieve our 10% goal with the inclusion of the funding that was provided from the gas B84 reclassifications, which the author can speak to as well.

3082
04:24:39,400 --> 04:24:46,400
In addition to that, we said about 600,000 as discussed was restricted for those restricted funds.

3083
04:24:46,400 --> 04:24:54,340
And then you'll recall during budget hearings, we knew we were going to have savings of about a million dollars from the public defender budget.

3084
04:24:54,820 --> 04:25:00,940
And we allocated that million dollars to establish for the startup costs for the new office.

3085
04:25:02,000 --> 04:25:09,560
So that was part of that. And then we also had about 1.1 million that we allocated to increase our contingencies.

3086
04:25:09,560 --> 04:25:16,400
This allows us to have 1% of our expenditures set aside in contingencies.

3087
04:25:17,420 --> 04:25:22,460
And then the remaining 4 million was used to increase the property and liability fund.

3088
04:25:23,240 --> 04:25:28,280
We discussed during budget hearings that our property and liability fund has had a lot of increased claims.

3089
04:25:28,820 --> 04:25:36,220
And as a result needed an increase in order to have a bare minimum and anticipation of claims reserve.

3090
04:25:36,220 --> 04:25:43,580
So we analyze that every year, well, every other year with an actual report and the actual

3091
04:25:43,580 --> 04:25:47,120
has stated that we should have at least 12 million in reserve.

3092
04:25:47,260 --> 04:25:48,440
So we're going to have four.

3093
04:25:48,800 --> 04:25:53,360
So we're, we need to set some goals to achieve that target in the future.

3094
04:25:53,720 --> 04:25:56,240
But we're making a little bit of progress at this point.

3095
04:25:57,300 --> 04:25:58,740
Okay, next slide.

3096
04:25:59,720 --> 04:26:07,560
Here gives you an overview of the 2021-22 county budgeted expenditures compared to the adopted

3097
04:26:09,020 --> 04:26:12,400
compared to the, I should say, the proposed, the original recommended.

3098
04:26:13,060 --> 04:26:20,120
The increase in the total budget is offset by increased revenues for the general fund of about 86.4 million.

3099
04:26:20,860 --> 04:26:25,340
And this is primarily the continuation of the COVID-19 response costs.

3100
04:26:25,340 --> 04:26:32,800
Funded by FEMA, oh yes, and the coronavirus relief funds, which includes the funds from the American Rescue Plan.

3101
04:26:33,780 --> 04:26:45,160
Additional 86.4 million is provided from a re-budget of incomplete costs from 2021 and adjustments approved by the Board during budget hearings.

3102
04:26:45,160 --> 04:26:59,500
It includes 95.75 positions, which are primarily limited term positions that your board added mid-year last year due to our response to the COVID-19.

3103
04:27:00,420 --> 04:27:11,020
Other funds are primarily the restricted funds include incomplete projects, which aren't naturally re-budgeted from the prior year.

3104
04:27:11,020 --> 04:27:22,640
So here's a summary of the gentleman financing for 2021-22, which is where the board has, of course, the most discretion.

3105
04:27:23,580 --> 04:27:38,020
Our total general fund financing increased by $6.5 million based on adjustments during budget hearings and year-inclosed and unspent costs and unreceived revenues which were re-budgeted from the prior year.

3106
04:27:38,020 --> 04:27:48,000
The fund balance available of 16.7 million includes that increase of six and a half, which is the 63%.

3107
04:27:48,000 --> 04:27:56,880
And that's primarily the American Rescue Plan funding. Your board will recall that we had a supplemental item that part of the allocation of the funding.

3108
04:27:58,420 --> 04:28:06,260
The revenues that we were recovering using the American Rescue Plan funding was helping us fund the 50% elimination of the furlough.

3109
04:28:06,260 --> 04:28:11,660
So that's that's for that additional six million let's need it.

3110
04:28:12,160 --> 04:28:19,760
And then we are the General County revenues increased by 10 million.

3111
04:28:19,960 --> 04:28:24,460
And this is primarily from the increased allocation of the American Rescue Plan funding.

3112
04:28:25,160 --> 04:28:30,340
That was approved by the board and allocated in 2021-22.

3113
04:28:34,110 --> 04:28:36,530
Next slide, contingencies.

3114
04:28:36,530 --> 04:28:40,630
So here's a summary of our contingencies for the adopted budget.

3115
04:28:41,250 --> 04:28:45,850
After all the adjustments during budget hearings in the year and the general fund contingencies,

3116
04:28:46,370 --> 04:28:50,070
help address any shortfalls and revenues or expenditures that could occur.

3117
04:28:50,850 --> 04:28:54,710
And we've had a practice of setting aside 1% of our expenditures,

3118
04:28:55,370 --> 04:28:57,850
which in this case is $6.3 million.

3119
04:28:58,990 --> 04:29:02,710
And then we have some restrictive contingencies this is funding to address

3120
04:29:02,710 --> 04:29:09,550
media adjustments that are approved by the board in any possible emergencies that may occur.

3121
04:29:10,090 --> 04:29:12,690
And any other board priorities that occurred during the year.

3122
04:29:12,950 --> 04:29:18,630
And that's, we set aside 4.1 million, so for total of 10.4 million for the adopted budget.

3123
04:29:19,050 --> 04:29:24,470
And this then shows the increase mentioned earlier, the 1.1 million over the proposed budget.

3124
04:29:26,650 --> 04:29:29,910
Let's slide. Everybody's favorite, this is reserves.

3125
04:29:29,910 --> 04:29:38,730
So I am happy to report that we are at our just slightly above our 10% goal, but it's important to understand a few things.

3126
04:29:39,610 --> 04:29:45,490
Number one, so our general fund reserve policy is 7 to 10% of the total general fund revenues.

3127
04:29:46,090 --> 04:29:53,550
And your board will recall that prior to COVID-19 and the pandemic, we were at that 10% goal for several years.

3128
04:29:53,550 --> 04:29:59,290
And as a result of the pandemic, we needed to use a portion of our reserves in order to provide.

3129
04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:08,480
I'm financing for the general fund. And we have been at that goal, but our minimum is a 7% so we took those

3130
04:30:08,480 --> 04:30:15,820
much out to get us down to the minimum and then made other reductions. The full policy, if anybody

3131
04:30:15,820 --> 04:30:22,120
would like to take a look at it is online and we can, and it specifies how reserves can be used

3132
04:30:22,120 --> 04:30:29,980
and how they should be restored. And it talks about the different types of reserves. So the

3133
04:30:29,980 --> 04:30:51,860
We did take 13 million out and because we took 13 million out of reserves during COVID, during last fiscal year, we needed to have a plan and our plan during the proposed budget was to look at five years to take five years to restore the 30 million and that's why we put at least three million into our reserves originally estimated.

3134
04:30:51,860 --> 04:30:57,000
and because we did better this last year we were able to put a little more. But the real reason

3135
04:30:57,000 --> 04:31:04,740
our reserves went up so much, because without the change in accounting policy, we would only

3136
04:31:04,740 --> 04:31:10,900
be at less than 8% in our reserves. But because of the reclassification of the trust funds,

3137
04:31:11,100 --> 04:31:16,660
we now have an additional 19 million that was put into our general fund reserves. But those reserves

3138
04:31:16,660 --> 04:31:19,360
are restricted for very specific purposes.

3139
04:31:20,040 --> 04:31:22,700
They're not general discretionary type reserves.

3140
04:31:23,480 --> 04:31:26,380
But I just want to alert the board to that.

3141
04:31:27,360 --> 04:31:30,960
And we know we need to continue to build our reserves.

3142
04:31:31,020 --> 04:31:33,060
And as discussed during budget hearings,

3143
04:31:34,380 --> 04:31:35,820
the auditor's office and our office

3144
04:31:35,820 --> 04:31:37,680
will be taking a closer look at that.

3145
04:31:37,680 --> 04:31:41,000
And we'll be bringing a revised policy back to your board

3146
04:31:41,000 --> 04:31:44,640
to discuss a potential increase to the reserve policy.

3147
04:31:44,640 --> 04:31:53,480
And one of the things we could consider as part of that is to look specifically at our

3148
04:31:53,480 --> 04:31:57,620
general county revenues, because those are the revenues that are discretionary revenue.

3149
04:31:58,680 --> 04:32:04,800
And that's the, some policies that counties have looked at, it's not just the total revenues,

3150
04:32:05,580 --> 04:32:10,620
but it looks specifically at the general county revenues, and setting aside within the reserves,

3151
04:32:10,620 --> 04:32:18,420
a portion of those general county revenues for reserve purposes as much as 25% and so just as

3152
04:32:18,420 --> 04:32:26,680
a comparison for information right now are discretionary reserves as a percentage of our

3153
04:32:26,680 --> 04:32:34,580
general county revenues or property taxes sales tax is at 16 and a half percent of something to

3154
04:32:39,000 --> 04:33:05,840
So, yes, we are doing better and we're still coming, we're getting through COVID and we have funding that's allowed for that, but we still have challenges, we still don't know exactly our FEMA reimbursements, how much they'll be, we've claimed approximately 50% of our cost to date and we're still waiting to get a full response from FEMA on all of our claims.

3155
04:33:05,860 --> 04:33:09,820
and to continue to claim the remainder of our costs during the emergency.

3156
04:33:11,580 --> 04:33:17,540
We know with climate change that we're seeing increased demands and potential emergency

3157
04:33:17,540 --> 04:33:25,540
costs could arise there as a result of other fires or debris flows that could occur.

3158
04:33:25,860 --> 04:33:32,840
Our actual revenues that have been estimated, we've used our best estimates and historical

3159
04:33:32,840 --> 04:33:40,580
estimates, but they don't always match. Our estimates are actually final revenues. And we know from

3160
04:33:40,580 --> 04:33:44,100
experience that our department costs will continue to increase and grow.

3161
04:33:46,500 --> 04:33:48,340
And then on the solutions

3162
04:33:48,340 --> 04:33:54,500
and next slide, one of the things that's helped us and we've talked greatly about this is that

3163
04:33:54,500 --> 04:34:02,480
we do budget 1% of our expenditures as a general contingency to help us address any of those unforeseen

3164
04:34:02,480 --> 04:34:09,040
situations that could occur, but we are using one-time funding to fund that channel contingency

3165
04:34:09,040 --> 04:34:15,760
so that's an important thing to remember. And our general fund reserves, at this point in time,

3166
04:34:15,760 --> 04:34:19,400
even though they have some restrictions around them are at 10% of our revenues.

3167
04:34:20,500 --> 04:34:26,480
And we do, as you know, are looking at revenue measures to help fund future gaps in our financing.

3168
04:34:26,480 --> 04:34:33,760
And we do, thankfully, thankfully have the American Rescue Plan funding to help us with all

3169
04:34:33,760 --> 04:34:37,720
of our COVID-related costs and to help recover some of our revenue losses from

3170
04:34:37,720 --> 04:34:41,260
prior years, but is allowing us to make some additional investments.

3171
04:34:41,900 --> 04:34:45,040
And we have that funding until the end of 2024.

3172
04:34:47,040 --> 04:34:52,500
So I think that's it, and our recommendation is to accept and file the report.

3173
04:34:52,500 --> 04:35:07,240
And we will return by January 11th with an update on the current year 2021-22 and also provide a preliminary forecast for the 2022-23 fiscal year.

3174
04:35:07,240 --> 04:35:08,800
And I'm happy to answer any questions.

3175
04:35:09,200 --> 04:35:10,100
Thank you very much.

3176
04:35:10,560 --> 04:35:19,740
I want to thank your entire financial team for managing this county budget on some very unpredictable and unbelievable year.

3177
04:35:19,740 --> 04:35:28,840
And I bet you're about ready to retire and I bet you wish you would have taken retirement a year ago, but I wish you a glad you were here for this crisis that we've been facing.

3178
04:35:29,480 --> 04:35:40,500
And I'm especially appreciative of the increase in our reserves to our board policy level of 10% understanding that this the difference in the discretionary and the general funded so forth.

3179
04:35:40,500 --> 04:35:53,600
But we need to be there who knows what might be coming next and it's really good public policy to have a reserve of that degree of 10%.

3180
04:35:53,600 --> 04:36:04,040
I think our team, the whole team, has a great job of staring us through this COVID crisis end of financial consequences of the fire.

3181
04:36:04,040 --> 04:36:06,200
We're hearing some of that just a little while ago.

3182
04:36:06,240 --> 04:36:09,740
And I can't thank our employees enough for helping us through the

3183
04:36:09,740 --> 04:36:12,900
Linus time and the furloughs and everything else that was

3184
04:36:12,900 --> 04:36:13,360
involved.

3185
04:36:14,120 --> 04:36:18,120
I think this county has come out of this move very, very well because

3186
04:36:18,120 --> 04:36:20,200
the dedicated efforts of our county employees.

3187
04:36:20,480 --> 04:36:22,580
And I just want to thank each and every one of them for what

3188
04:36:22,580 --> 04:36:24,140
they've done.

3189
04:36:24,300 --> 04:36:28,480
I did some very trying and unexpected circumstances that we've

3190
04:36:28,480 --> 04:36:29,140
had to face.

3191
04:36:29,140 --> 04:36:37,080
I would like to ask the R.C.O. Carlos Blasio about, I see us as doing very well and have

3192
04:36:37,080 --> 04:36:37,780
rebounded in.

3193
04:36:38,180 --> 04:36:42,940
Thanks to the state and federal resources that we receive, but just in general, how are the counties

3194
04:36:42,940 --> 04:36:43,520
doing?

3195
04:36:45,460 --> 04:36:47,860
You have an overview of that?

3196
04:36:48,180 --> 04:36:48,480
Yes.

3197
04:36:49,120 --> 04:36:55,400
Ms. Now, we did some research on that with our joining counties, a little bit difficult to compare

3198
04:36:55,400 --> 04:37:00,900
monetary counties much bigger than us, and then we need a so small, but almost like a small city.

3199
04:37:02,160 --> 04:37:05,640
In terms of reserves, both of those counties are doing better than us.

3200
04:37:06,920 --> 04:37:10,340
They have a higher reserve, the San Benito has very high reserves,

3201
04:37:11,140 --> 04:37:17,020
and then moderate county also has higher reserves than us. So it shows that we have set a good goal

3202
04:37:17,020 --> 04:37:21,860
and improving our reserves. And remember, we're at 10, over 10%, but that includes this

3203
04:37:22,340 --> 04:37:26,780
health trust money that was moved because of this accounting rule, absent that money I believe

3204
04:37:26,780 --> 04:37:33,840
it would be near 8%. So that shows you, we still have a ways to go in terms of building up

3205
04:37:33,840 --> 04:37:37,560
our reserves back to where they should be, but on the other hand, we are improving, we're doing

3206
04:37:37,560 --> 04:37:43,500
well, we're very peacefully stable, we've been able to maintain our bond rating this year,

3207
04:37:43,560 --> 04:37:47,960
which is an amazing feat given all that we've been through. So in general, I think we're doing

3208
04:37:47,960 --> 04:37:52,520
very well. And we're doing better than most counties are given on the constraints that we have,

3209
04:37:52,560 --> 04:37:58,420
which is primarily that we're relatively low revenue, low property tax county, but even with

3210
04:37:58,420 --> 04:38:03,080
that constraint, we're doing, I think, a very good job. And I think we're doing well in comparison

3211
04:38:03,080 --> 04:38:08,180
to other counties. But thank you very much. Any other comments from board members?

3212
04:38:08,480 --> 04:38:10,640
It's a rise of funding. It's a rise of your friend.

3213
04:38:11,540 --> 04:38:16,140
If thank you, Mr. Chair, I think him is Maori as always. I know we said wonderful things about

3214
04:38:16,140 --> 04:38:30,260
If the last presentation and that hasn't changed in that amount of time, you will be missed, you know, a lot of times we don't end up in the front page of the paper for budget related things and that actually starts with you and sort of wanted to appreciate your work.

3215
04:38:31,140 --> 04:38:35,420
Very ethical, very appropriate, very professional and we appreciate that.

3216
04:38:35,420 --> 04:38:40,880
I had one question in regards to the FEMA comment there at the end.

3217
04:38:41,280 --> 04:38:45,000
We'd always known that we, in some respects, sort of,

3218
04:38:45,140 --> 04:38:46,800
over-secret reimbursement from FEMA,

3219
04:38:46,980 --> 04:38:49,360
there's generally a factor of maybe 20% or so

3220
04:38:49,360 --> 04:38:51,100
from right on that number of non-reimbursment,

3221
04:38:51,440 --> 04:38:54,160
but your language has said that it would come in lower

3222
04:38:54,160 --> 04:38:54,980
than anticipated.

3223
04:38:55,200 --> 04:38:57,920
Is that lower than the anticipated already reduction

3224
04:38:57,920 --> 04:38:59,300
that we would already anticipate?

3225
04:38:59,700 --> 04:39:02,940
Or is that still the normal factor off of what we generally

3226
04:39:02,940 --> 04:39:07,320
We assume we won't get fully reimbursed by snow then why.

3227
04:39:08,180 --> 04:39:09,920
Yeah, it's still the normal factor.

3228
04:39:10,880 --> 04:39:14,220
We still don't have enough experience yet, based on our claiming

3229
04:39:14,940 --> 04:39:17,360
what FEMA's responsible fully be.

3230
04:39:17,440 --> 04:39:22,760
I mean, we have over $50 million in costs through June.

3231
04:39:23,100 --> 04:39:25,820
We've claimed essentially half that.

3232
04:39:26,120 --> 04:39:31,420
And we've only heard from FEMA proving 25% of that, 25 million.

3233
04:39:31,420 --> 04:39:34,380
and receive just a few million in terms of reimbursements.

3234
04:39:34,440 --> 04:39:43,460
So we have a ways to go with FEMA and we are in constant communication with FEMA and you know it's just taking longer to do these claims.

3235
04:39:43,540 --> 04:39:53,700
And we had a little bit of a delay during fiscal year and we had to redirect our attention, but we've just hired a few more staff and so we're hopeful we'll be able to get caught up by the end of the year.

3236
04:39:54,340 --> 04:40:06,080
Okay, I appreciate that as always, you and the CAO can always lean on us on the federal advocacy side as well, but I appreciate that some of this is outside of pure advocacy, but sometimes it doesn't hurt.

3237
04:40:06,740 --> 04:40:08,800
I appreciate the presentation. Thank you.

3238
04:40:08,800 --> 04:40:09,260
Thank you.

3239
04:40:09,360 --> 04:40:11,580
The Schumerer is your country. Any questions?

3240
04:40:13,660 --> 04:40:20,500
No, thank you, Mr. Chair. I want to thank the whole team for getting us through these stormy seasons.

3241
04:40:21,620 --> 04:40:43,940
And it's been good to have a partnership for the federal and state government and also want to recognize all the business owners and workers and everyone else who have shown up and done their best to keep our economy alive so that we could have a tax base and jobs and opportunity going forward.

3242
04:40:45,040 --> 04:40:45,960
Thank you.

3243
04:40:46,140 --> 04:40:47,780
I should raise your cap in any questions.

3244
04:40:48,440 --> 04:40:48,940
Thank you.

3245
04:40:50,140 --> 04:40:50,660
Yeah.

3246
04:40:50,880 --> 04:40:52,260
What do you hear us?

3247
04:40:52,940 --> 04:40:54,820
This is your last one.

3248
04:40:55,100 --> 04:40:56,300
This is my last one.

3249
04:40:56,560 --> 04:40:57,500
Yes, it is.

3250
04:40:58,020 --> 04:40:59,600
And what is October?

3251
04:41:00,340 --> 04:41:00,860
Sometime.

3252
04:41:01,040 --> 04:41:01,940
October 8th.

3253
04:41:02,860 --> 04:41:03,480
Excuse me.

3254
04:41:04,300 --> 04:41:06,780
Well, you deserve a rest for a while.

3255
04:41:07,180 --> 04:41:10,460
I don't know what you're going to do after a little bit of a while.

3256
04:41:11,260 --> 04:41:12,260
Anyway, just.

3257
04:41:13,120 --> 04:41:19,080
the incredible year, everything was upside down, everything was turned around backwards.

3258
04:41:20,360 --> 04:41:26,240
And it was tough to figure out where to go and you managed to know which way to go.

3259
04:41:26,480 --> 04:41:31,260
And that was improve everything and move forward.

3260
04:41:32,820 --> 04:41:35,080
So thanks for everything you've done.

3261
04:41:35,820 --> 04:41:38,300
And I think we're going to be okay.

3262
04:41:38,680 --> 04:41:40,460
So we have an incredible team of people.

3263
04:41:41,480 --> 04:41:43,760
Good. Good.

3264
04:41:43,760 --> 04:41:43,900
Good.

3265
04:41:43,900 --> 04:41:44,080
Good.

3266
04:41:44,560 --> 04:41:47,960
In a motion to accept the report.

3267
04:41:48,580 --> 04:41:49,080
I'll note the recommend.

3268
04:41:49,500 --> 04:41:50,020
Excuse me.

3269
04:41:50,060 --> 04:41:50,540
Excuse me.

3270
04:41:50,680 --> 04:41:51,900
I'll have somebody from public once.

3271
04:41:51,980 --> 04:41:52,140
I'll speak.

3272
04:41:58,070 --> 04:41:58,850
Thank you.

3273
04:41:58,930 --> 04:42:00,450
Nice to be here in person.

3274
04:42:01,030 --> 04:42:02,190
My name is Becky Steinbrin.

3275
04:42:02,190 --> 04:42:04,360
Thank you for this report and Miss Malbury.

3276
04:42:04,870 --> 04:42:06,310
Good luck to you on your retirement.

3277
04:42:07,030 --> 04:42:08,350
I appreciate your service.

3278
04:42:08,770 --> 04:42:11,170
I have some questions about that supervisor,

3279
04:42:11,170 --> 04:42:14,310
a friend brought up about the FEMA reimbursement.

3280
04:42:14,510 --> 04:42:23,130
A question, is that regarding COVID reimbursements only or does that also include the CZU reimbursements?

3281
04:42:23,450 --> 04:42:34,130
My second question is with a good amount of money in the contingency fund, why don't we have

3282
04:42:34,130 --> 04:42:40,670
enough money to fund projects like the Rio Delmar drainage project that just got scrapped?

3283
04:42:41,170 --> 04:42:48,490
because even with great grant funding from the federal's because the people in vote in to

3284
04:42:48,490 --> 04:42:56,610
assess themselves about $200,000 total to make it go. Why can't that come out of contingency?

3285
04:42:56,890 --> 04:43:03,810
Why can't money for this fund that the study that community foundation had to do?

3286
04:43:04,010 --> 04:43:08,590
Because the county said they didn't have money, but we needed that study to get grants,

3287
04:43:08,590 --> 04:43:10,550
That was $200,000.

3288
04:43:11,850 --> 04:43:21,090
Why can't we use the contingency funds for things like that to support the health, and safety, and rebuilding of our people?

3289
04:43:22,410 --> 04:43:27,250
My last question in regards to Measure G, the countywide sales tax.

3290
04:43:27,650 --> 04:43:29,770
What's the status of that?

3291
04:43:30,650 --> 04:43:35,790
There is no independent oversight as was promised to the voters regarding that.

3292
04:43:35,790 --> 04:43:45,250
I asked about it was called, well, it's on the website and you can come to the budget hearings, that's not oversight, and zero of that has been allocated to fire.

3293
04:43:45,510 --> 04:43:55,550
That was a big thing to pass that and I would really like some discussion about the measure G funds and how the county will allocate that money.

3294
04:43:56,330 --> 04:43:58,490
Thank you very much and again, good luck in your retirement.

3295
04:43:59,530 --> 04:44:01,590
We do answer a couple of those questions.

3296
04:44:01,830 --> 04:44:03,290
Yes, I'm happy too.

3297
04:44:04,410 --> 04:44:07,050
So in my comments earlier about the FEMA funding,

3298
04:44:07,230 --> 04:44:09,540
specifically around the COVID-related cost,

3299
04:44:10,550 --> 04:44:12,230
fire is a separate claim.

3300
04:44:12,830 --> 04:44:14,690
I don't have that information with me.

3301
04:44:14,790 --> 04:44:17,310
The auditor has been more involved in that,

3302
04:44:17,630 --> 04:44:19,520
so may have those numbers for you.

3303
04:44:20,530 --> 04:44:22,110
As it relates to contingencies,

3304
04:44:22,490 --> 04:44:25,790
the use of contingencies are at the discretion of the board,

3305
04:44:25,790 --> 04:44:28,030
based on requests that are made.

3306
04:44:28,030 --> 04:44:42,890
So, and we do have a capital review committee, so if there are funds needed for a particular project, any of those requests go through our capital review committee and are allocated, and we do have very limited funding for our capital improvement projects.

3307
04:44:43,750 --> 04:44:47,110
And so there's a lot of need and requests around that.

3308
04:44:47,770 --> 04:44:51,790
I can't address the specific project so I don't have any of those details.

3309
04:44:52,570 --> 04:44:58,610
Major G is a transaction sales tax that was approved by the voters.

3310
04:44:58,790 --> 04:44:59,970
It's a general purpose revenue.

3311
04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:24,700
Your board did establish certain uses for those funds, and we've been in keeping with those uses. And we have provided a report. It's on the last page of the adopted budget that shows since inception since 1819, the amount of funds that have been received from Major G, and how those funds have been used. Essentially, your board funded the fit program.

3312
04:45:24,700 --> 04:45:29,940
We have funded some park improvements and maintenance staff with those funds.

3313
04:45:30,440 --> 04:45:37,900
We also are funding some of our housing for healthy Santa Cruz or homeless funding is funded through those funds.

3314
04:45:38,660 --> 04:45:46,700
We also are funding specifically the Office of Response Recovery Resiliency that that new.

3315
04:45:47,780 --> 04:45:51,880
And then the remainder of the funds are for county essential services.

3316
04:45:52,960 --> 04:45:56,020
So the majority of those funds are being allocated to those programs,

3317
04:45:56,080 --> 04:45:58,860
and there's very little left at this point in time.

3318
04:45:59,480 --> 04:46:03,960
About 25% being allocated to general county essential services.

3319
04:46:04,820 --> 04:46:06,800
Because it's part of the general fund,

3320
04:46:07,700 --> 04:46:10,080
it's part of the annual audit and process,

3321
04:46:10,220 --> 04:46:15,940
and it is reviewed through the annual review of the financial statements,

3322
04:46:15,940 --> 04:46:20,500
And the order has an outside auditor that comes in and does that review.

3323
04:46:21,160 --> 04:46:21,840
Thank you.

3324
04:46:22,160 --> 04:46:22,820
Thank you.

3325
04:46:22,940 --> 04:46:25,800
Just comment on the contingencies a little bit further.

3326
04:46:26,880 --> 04:46:32,240
The contingencies amount to only about 1% of our general fund.

3327
04:46:32,800 --> 04:46:34,980
And they are our operating reserve.

3328
04:46:35,500 --> 04:46:42,340
So we have a permanent reserve, which we're just talking about, which is the 10% that we now have.

3329
04:46:42,340 --> 04:46:47,180
And those are strictly and very severe emergencies and only used very rarely infected.

3330
04:46:47,480 --> 04:46:50,820
I don't we used them this year, but I don't know we've ever used them before.

3331
04:46:51,300 --> 04:46:57,440
I want to use our general contingency because it needs to be there to.

3332
04:46:58,120 --> 04:46:58,700
Very forward.

3333
04:46:59,100 --> 04:47:03,960
So then the contingencies and the budget are operating reserve.

3334
04:47:04,800 --> 04:47:09,000
And that's our first line of defense for any emergency that would come up.

3335
04:47:09,000 --> 04:47:20,660
So, it's not just a part of money to be allocated, we have that as an operating reserve for any unforeseen circumstances, which may have to give us some little bit of question.

3336
04:47:21,540 --> 04:47:27,120
It's kind of like having a little bit of cushion in your checking account and versus your savings account.

3337
04:47:28,180 --> 04:47:30,960
So that, and you just don't want to spend it, right? Because then you have no cushion.

3338
04:47:31,620 --> 04:47:35,160
And of course, we have to have a balance budget, and so 1% as a cushion.

3339
04:47:35,160 --> 04:47:47,620
We're a general fan. It's a very small amount. It's a minimum amount. And so that's why we have that contingency fund in there. That's why we try not to tap into it as a, you know, just to use to fund things. Thank you.

3340
04:47:48,260 --> 04:47:48,700
Yes.

3341
04:47:48,700 --> 04:47:49,060
Thank you.

3342
04:47:49,500 --> 04:47:50,080
Thank you.

3343
04:47:50,080 --> 04:47:53,520
But four years ago when we had that big storm.

3344
04:47:53,520 --> 04:48:04,800
And it looked like the levy might break at the reverse side drive and the coward road, was that emergency funds?

3345
04:48:05,360 --> 04:48:09,740
We had to give the okay that was about two billion dollars.

3346
04:48:11,860 --> 04:48:13,660
I don't remember that specific.

3347
04:48:13,660 --> 04:48:15,800
It was funded, but that is an example.

3348
04:48:16,360 --> 04:48:23,500
The way we have contingencies to first fund an emergency like that later you might try and get

3349
04:48:23,500 --> 04:48:28,220
actually pay. And that case was granted rock. And it was overnight. We had to make that decision.

3350
04:48:28,660 --> 04:48:35,640
Yeah. Yeah. And we did use some of the contingencies last year.

3351
04:48:36,860 --> 04:48:42,400
Some of our restricted contingencies that we had set aside for anticipated emergency. And that's

3352
04:48:42,400 --> 04:48:49,140
how we funded some of the initial local match needed on the fire response costs. Thank you so.

3353
04:48:49,140 --> 04:48:50,220
Thank you.

3354
04:48:50,220 --> 04:48:51,240
Surprise your query.

3355
04:48:52,900 --> 04:48:53,680
I have no comments.

3356
04:48:53,880 --> 04:48:55,360
I'm preparing to move the right to an action.

3357
04:48:56,300 --> 04:48:56,700
Second.

3358
04:48:57,500 --> 04:48:57,900
Second.

3359
04:48:58,160 --> 04:48:58,900
Do you have any comments?

3360
04:48:59,240 --> 04:49:00,080
Surprise your friend.

3361
04:49:01,840 --> 04:49:02,480
Thank you Mr. Charles.

3362
04:49:02,760 --> 04:49:03,720
I had already made some comments.

3363
04:49:03,900 --> 04:49:04,600
I appreciate it.

3364
04:49:04,700 --> 04:49:05,880
I appreciate it.

3365
04:49:05,880 --> 04:49:06,280
Very good.

3366
04:49:06,300 --> 04:49:07,560
The police call the rule.

3367
04:49:08,720 --> 04:49:09,020
Did I?

3368
04:49:09,340 --> 04:49:10,060
Is there anybody else?

3369
04:49:10,680 --> 04:49:11,620
And for the record, there are none.

3370
04:49:11,820 --> 04:49:11,900
I'll see.

3371
04:49:12,700 --> 04:49:13,400
All right.

3372
04:49:13,580 --> 04:49:14,180
Please call the rule.

3373
04:49:14,300 --> 04:49:14,960
If a raise their code.

3374
04:49:15,380 --> 04:49:15,680
Bye.

3375
04:49:16,120 --> 04:49:16,400
Friend.

3376
04:49:17,680 --> 04:49:17,740
Good.

3377
04:49:17,740 --> 04:49:17,840
Thank you.

3378
04:49:17,840 --> 04:49:17,860
Good.

3379
04:49:17,860 --> 04:49:18,160
Good afternoon.

3380
04:49:18,640 --> 04:49:18,860
Hi.

3381
04:49:19,480 --> 04:49:19,640
Hi.

3382
04:49:20,540 --> 04:49:23,140
I think you motion passes unanimously.

3383
04:49:24,100 --> 04:49:24,780
Thank you.

3384
04:49:24,800 --> 04:49:25,140
Thank you.

3385
04:49:25,500 --> 04:49:25,720
Thank you.

3386
04:49:25,860 --> 04:49:26,260
Thank you.

3387
04:49:26,440 --> 04:49:27,300
I have a great retirement.

3388
04:49:28,900 --> 04:49:31,440
I've number 14, our last item of the day.

3389
04:49:31,980 --> 04:49:33,140
I'm to adopt a resolution.

3390
04:49:34,240 --> 04:49:37,940
For the fiscal year or 20, I 21 22 budget.

3391
04:49:38,180 --> 04:49:39,920
For the county funds and special districts.

3392
04:49:41,840 --> 04:49:42,360
I'm.

3393
04:49:42,600 --> 04:49:45,280
For the county.

3394
04:49:45,760 --> 04:49:46,380
For the county fund and special district.

3395
04:49:46,380 --> 04:49:52,260
Special Districts, as shown, adopt resolutions, accept an unanticipated revenue related to the

3396
04:49:52,260 --> 04:49:57,700
priority of fiscal year and approve transfers of appropriations related to the prior fiscal year.

3397
04:49:57,940 --> 04:50:03,560
Council various appropriations due to insufficient funding or contingency balance balances

3398
04:50:03,560 --> 04:50:09,020
that hurt to the county administrative office for a report back.

3399
04:50:09,220 --> 04:50:15,100
On any, additionally, in needed actions and take related actions as recommended by the

3400
04:50:15,100 --> 04:50:25,700
to control or tax collector treasurer. We have 14 resolutions, a few worksheets and this

3401
04:50:25,700 --> 04:50:32,660
day adopted budget also of 21, 22. To present this is our out of your controller treasurer

3402
04:50:32,660 --> 04:50:39,680
tax collector and whatever else, either thriscol. Good afternoon, Chair McPherson and members of

3403
04:50:39,680 --> 04:50:45,040
the board. Either thriscol the out of your controller treasurer tax collector. Also with me today

3404
04:50:45,100 --> 04:50:48,620
as Laura Bowers, her county's chief deputy, out of her controller.

3405
04:50:50,020 --> 04:50:53,360
I, of course, want to say thank you to Christina Murray for her presentation explaining

3406
04:50:53,360 --> 04:50:58,920
this budget in detail. I want to acknowledge the exemplary guidance Christina has provided

3407
04:50:58,920 --> 04:51:01,820
to our county and we also wish her well in return.

3408
04:51:03,420 --> 04:51:09,860
The item before you now is the final Santa Cruz County budget for fiscal year 2021-22.

3409
04:51:10,780 --> 04:51:16,560
The student to be adopted includes changes authorized by your board in June during budget hearings,

3410
04:51:17,180 --> 04:51:21,720
as well as accounting changes resulting from the fiscal year-end closed process.

3411
04:51:22,620 --> 04:51:29,900
Specifically listed in government code 29088, the budget must be approved by resolution

3412
04:51:29,900 --> 04:51:33,880
no later than October 2nd of each year.

3413
04:51:34,380 --> 04:51:39,640
Laura has a brief presentation to highlight the budget document presented in your agenda today.

3414
04:51:42,910 --> 04:51:43,470
Thank you, Edith.

3415
04:51:44,390 --> 04:51:52,790
The auditor controller is required to compile the final budget and the forms, formatting, and content are in accordance with California State Controller Guidelines.

3416
04:51:54,070 --> 04:51:54,810
Next slide, please.

3417
04:51:55,530 --> 04:52:01,190
This table presents budgeted appropriations, in other words, budgeted, next slide, sorry about that.

3418
04:52:01,690 --> 04:52:06,010
In other words, budgeted expenditures for fiscal year 2021, 2022.

3419
04:52:06,870 --> 04:52:10,070
The data from this table comes from the schedule one in the budget book.

3420
04:52:10,470 --> 04:52:13,370
As you can see, we prepare the budget not just for the general fund,

3421
04:52:13,690 --> 04:52:16,630
but also for special revenue funds, which include housing funds,

3422
04:52:17,050 --> 04:52:20,310
the road funds, the transportation fund, and part dedication funds,

3423
04:52:21,230 --> 04:52:23,430
as well as what we call less than countywide funds,

3424
04:52:23,610 --> 04:52:27,970
which include the library fund and the county fire fund, and capital project funds.

3425
04:52:27,970 --> 04:52:32,790
Details for the governmental funds are presented in the scheduled lines in the budget book.

3426
04:52:33,510 --> 04:52:41,270
Additionally, this budget includes special districts and other agencies that are governed by the sport of supervisors, such as county service areas for roads and recreation.

3427
04:52:42,150 --> 04:52:47,050
Details for the board-governed special districts are presented in the scheduled 15s in the budget book.

3428
04:52:47,690 --> 04:52:53,730
Internal service funds include the information services department, personnel insurance funds, and the Department of Public Works.

3429
04:52:53,730 --> 04:52:58,730
Details for the internal service funds are presented in the schedule tens in the budget book.

3430
04:52:59,550 --> 04:53:04,710
Enterprise funds are business type activities and include county disposal sites and sanitation districts,

3431
04:53:05,390 --> 04:53:09,990
and the details for the enterprise funds are presented in the schedule 11 of the budget book.

3432
04:53:10,250 --> 04:53:10,830
Next slide, please.

3433
04:53:12,970 --> 04:53:15,850
This chart shows the distribution of governmental funds,

3434
04:53:15,910 --> 04:53:20,390
which include the general fund, special revenue funds and capital project funds,

3435
04:53:20,390 --> 04:53:26,070
budgeted expenditures by function. As you can see the highest percentages of the governmental fund

3436
04:53:26,070 --> 04:53:30,450
budget are allocated to health and sanitation at public assistance and public protection.

3437
04:53:33,770 --> 04:53:38,670
This chart shows budgeted revenues by source that support governmental funds, which again

3438
04:53:38,670 --> 04:53:44,490
include the general fund, special revenue funds and capital project funds. The two highest sources

3439
04:53:44,490 --> 04:53:49,450
of revenue are aid from other governmental agencies which represents funding from the state and federal

3440
04:53:49,450 --> 04:53:54,930
government followed by property taxes. Please note that the aid from other governmental agencies

3441
04:53:54,930 --> 04:53:57,170
has restrictions on how it can be spent.

3442
04:53:59,960 --> 04:54:02,620
This table shows a reconciliation between the proposed

3443
04:54:02,620 --> 04:54:08,020
budget presented on May 11, 2021, and the final budget as we are presenting to your board today.

3444
04:54:08,720 --> 04:54:13,400
The table is reflected in the board letter that accompanies this budget. The proposed budget

3445
04:54:13,400 --> 04:54:18,420
estimated a net county cost of about $10.1 million, while the final budget presents a net

3446
04:54:18,420 --> 04:54:24,240
cost of about 16.7 million and a large portion of that variance is made up of the 12.4 million

3447
04:54:24,240 --> 04:54:29,300
in income rents, meaning contracts and purchase orders for which the county is obligated to pay

3448
04:54:29,300 --> 04:54:34,220
in 2021-22 that carried over from the previous fiscal year.

3449
04:54:36,260 --> 04:54:38,120
And this final table reflects the

3450
04:54:38,120 --> 04:54:43,120
impact that government accounting standards board statement number 84 had on the final budget.

3451
04:54:43,120 --> 04:54:49,500
For the fiscal year ended June 30, 2021, the county of Santa Cruz implemented gas v-statement

3452
04:54:49,500 --> 04:54:55,060
number 84, which provided improved guidance regarding the identification of fiduciary activities

3453
04:54:55,060 --> 04:55:00,000
for accounting and financial reporting purposes, and this implementation had an impact on the

3454
04:55:00,000 --> 04:55:01,840
fiscal year 2021-22 budget.

3455
04:55:02,460 --> 04:55:07,360
At June 30, 2021, there were many funds that were previously categorized as trust funds and

3456
04:55:07,360 --> 04:55:14,080
classified as subfunds within the general fund. These new subfunds added over $52 million to

3457
04:55:14,080 --> 04:55:19,580
fund balance in the general fund. However, the majority of that fund balance, 33 million was classified

3458
04:55:19,580 --> 04:55:23,660
as restricted fund balance as the funds were restricted for very specific purposes.

3459
04:55:24,540 --> 04:55:30,280
19 million was classified as a signed for health services. And with that, I'm going to pass it back

3460
04:55:30,280 --> 04:55:35,620
to you to conclude our presentation. Thank you, Laura. And I would also like to thank Laura's team

3461
04:55:36,760 --> 04:55:41,380
It's often commented that our budget is quite large and quite extensive, and I would agree

3462
04:55:41,380 --> 04:55:41,920
with them.

3463
04:55:42,200 --> 04:55:46,820
And part of that is because the funds of the county are equally quite large and quite extensive.

3464
04:55:47,340 --> 04:55:52,240
And we can imagine that a change that was put into place this year, such as Gasby 84,

3465
04:55:52,760 --> 04:55:56,980
created an extensive amount of work for our teams, and I really appreciate their ability

3466
04:55:56,980 --> 04:55:58,660
to step forward and do it successfully.

3467
04:55:59,800 --> 04:56:02,420
So this concludes our presentation of this budget.

3468
04:56:02,560 --> 04:56:03,920
We are available for any questions.

3469
04:56:04,140 --> 04:56:04,600
Thank you.

3470
04:56:04,600 --> 04:56:09,160
Thank you very much again for the great stewardship of over our budget.

3471
04:56:09,360 --> 04:56:15,940
As was mentioned by our CAO, it was relatively very good position under the circumstances.

3472
04:56:16,420 --> 04:56:22,100
And again, I want to thank our employees for stepping up at a time when we really needed them to make some adjustments.

3473
04:56:23,360 --> 04:56:32,840
Especially again to Christine and Maui, our budget manager, our new budget manager, as Marcus Pimentel, you have some big shoes to fill.

3474
04:56:32,840 --> 04:56:42,760
And I'm grateful of really to the federal and state support that we've received in the COVID-19 pandemic, without a bad, we just would have been buried.

3475
04:56:43,220 --> 04:56:45,180
So it's very welcome indeed.

3476
04:56:46,080 --> 04:56:47,960
Any questions from the Board of Supervisors?

3477
04:56:48,940 --> 04:56:51,340
No, then there in the second or third.

3478
04:56:54,220 --> 04:56:56,260
Any other public comments?

3479
04:56:57,820 --> 04:56:58,560
Public comments?

3480
04:57:03,560 --> 04:57:04,600
Thank you very much.

3481
04:57:04,600 --> 04:57:10,300
back at Steinbriller from Appcast Hills. You are right. This is a very complicated budget.

3482
04:57:11,980 --> 04:57:22,360
I'm a taxpayer and property owner in the mountains. And as a county service area 48 person,

3483
04:57:25,240 --> 04:57:34,400
I request that your board, you consider completely removing the CSA 48 special benefit assessment

3484
04:57:34,400 --> 04:57:41,840
for those in the CZU fire area that lost their homes and are not able to live on their

3485
04:57:41,840 --> 04:57:48,600
property, have nothing to protect, and that was the whole basis of that new special benefit

3486
04:57:48,600 --> 04:57:57,940
assessment tax on top of the two fire flow units that everybody across the board in CSA 48

3487
04:57:57,940 --> 04:58:06,380
pays. These people have nothing that will benefit by paying this tax. They have nothing left.

3488
04:58:06,780 --> 04:58:13,800
They should not have to pay anything at all. Now your board did approve reductions and I look

3489
04:58:13,800 --> 04:58:21,100
through them. They make no sense. Some who lost their homes might have been reduced a small amount.

3490
04:58:21,100 --> 04:58:25,160
But I'm begging with you.

3491
04:58:25,680 --> 04:58:27,040
You've seen the people here.

3492
04:58:27,520 --> 04:58:28,840
You've heard their testimonies.

3493
04:58:29,060 --> 04:58:30,680
They've contacted you in their office.

3494
04:58:31,420 --> 04:58:32,640
You've cleared their properties.

3495
04:58:33,020 --> 04:58:34,940
I'm sure.

3496
04:58:35,220 --> 04:58:40,740
Completely remove all of the CSA48 special benefits assessments

3497
04:58:40,740 --> 04:58:43,280
from the CZU fire area,

3498
04:58:44,820 --> 04:58:46,860
where people who have lost their homes

3499
04:58:46,860 --> 04:58:50,440
and their property is in ashes.

3500
04:58:51,160 --> 04:58:54,340
It makes no sense to continue to tax them

3501
04:58:54,340 --> 04:58:56,620
for the benefit of protecting them.

3502
04:58:56,620 --> 04:58:58,360
When there is nothing, they're to protect.

3503
04:58:59,180 --> 04:59:02,940
Wait until they rebuild, and then you can tax them again.

3504
04:59:03,380 --> 04:59:06,280
Let's take it off now, 100% for these people.

3505
04:59:06,900 --> 04:59:08,820
Please, thank you.

3506
04:59:11,200 --> 04:59:13,200
No other questions for the public.

3507
04:59:13,220 --> 04:59:14,440
We do alien on the phone.

3508
04:59:14,480 --> 04:59:15,480
They're an S. Speaker something.

3509
04:59:16,020 --> 04:59:18,240
I'm having a quick minute actions.

3510
04:59:20,600 --> 04:59:23,540
Second, second the second of each of the will.

3511
04:59:23,940 --> 04:59:26,180
Supervisor Konnik, I, friends.

3512
04:59:27,480 --> 04:59:27,980
Good, Judy.

3513
04:59:28,440 --> 04:59:28,560
Hi.

3514
04:59:29,180 --> 04:59:29,660
How have it?

3515
04:59:30,200 --> 04:59:30,660
Thanks, Harrison.

3516
04:59:31,480 --> 04:59:32,320
Thank you, Mr. Pastel.

3517
04:59:32,940 --> 04:59:33,900
Very good.

3518
04:59:34,260 --> 04:59:36,460
That is the last item on the agenda today.

3519
04:59:37,160 --> 04:59:40,760
So we will endure until the next board of supervisors meet.

3520
04:59:41,100 --> 04:59:41,980
Thank you very much.

3521
04:59:42,180 --> 04:59:42,740
Have a good day.

3522
04:59:42,900 --> 04:59:43,200
Good day.