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Good evening. I'd like to call the city council meeting of February 5th to order and I'd like to ask

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the city to call the roll.

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Are we going to do the invocation?

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Call the roll first and we'll do the invocation because I'm out of order.

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Council member Cross-White. Council member Hernandez. Council member Proctor.

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Vice Mayor Garmin.

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Here.

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I'd like to call up al-Geline for the invocation. Could you all please stand?

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I'm too out of order.

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Yeah.

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That is right.

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Thank you for your blessings and all who are present here.

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For all of deliberations and decisions that will lead to the betterment of our community.

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We give you thanks for all the community members who are willing to help and assist our neighbors during the recent fires.

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We know that some of our friends will be affected by the fire for some time in the future.

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All this we ask for patience and understanding for all of us.

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We also ask for guidance with them and considering the needs of our most vulnerable members of our community.

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For all of this we give you thanks and that's for your spirit to be with us as we go about our daily work for the betterment of all of our community.

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All of this we ask in your name.

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Oh, man.

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Thank you.

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Vice Mayor Garmin.

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Would you be this in the by-sleep?

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Absolutely.

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Is it a lie?

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Do I hand over your heart?

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the state of America.

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And to the Republic for which it stands.

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One nation.

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I'm the God.

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And it will.

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With liberty and justice for all.

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Okay.

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Do we have a closed session report?

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We did a major already.

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Good.

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And members of the council.

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Good evening.

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There were two items on the close session agenda tonight.

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That close session began at 530 in the council discussed a significant exposure to litigation.

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The government co-checks on 54956.92.

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The council also had a discussion with their labor negotiators.

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Michael Rock and the employee organization was SCIU local 721.

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At the conclusion of that close session, the council took no report of elections.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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At this point, it gives me a great pleasure to call on our chief police student.

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I'm going to come up.

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And he has a number of presentations and I'm going to come down.

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So Steve can take some time with us.

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And we all can get to meet our new officers and our people who have been.

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Got information.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Mayor Vice Mayor.

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Members of the council.

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It's my pleasure to introduce you.

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New members of our team as well of.

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Two officers who are being promoted to the rack of sergeant.

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It is small.

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Please department.

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We don't get that many openings for sergeants.

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So when we do, it really is a big deal.

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Especially when you're talking a 25-year veteran like Sergeant William Pickett.

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Come up here, Bill.

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Sergeant Walter Harper.

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They were recently promoted to the rack of sergeants.

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So well deserved and congratulations on your promotion.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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And of course, we're in the process of enhancing our department.

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And so what you see is part of our new membership new members of our team.

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We look at have officer William you who came from the central police department.

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He's got, he's a 12 year veteran.

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So William you will stand up.

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Be recognized.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, officer.

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That's wonderful.

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And we've got Jason Oboode who's currently a couple months into the field training program.

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So Jason Oboode.

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And of course we have a new dispatcher.

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Please welcome Amanda Salinas.

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So we are.

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Thank you.

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Everybody we're really glad to have you all.

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All right.

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So we are up to public comment on the agenda.

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And at this point, I'd like to call Roger Dredman.

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Good evening, Roger.

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I'm ready vice mayor.

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Good evening.

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Council members staff.

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In fellow citizens.

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In residents.

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This is going to be a very brief public comment.

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And I'm going to complain about something.

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And I really feel strongly about this.

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This last week, I had to pay my business license fee.

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It's too low.

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Seriously.

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If a business.

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I paid under $40 from my business license.

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And I don't make a lot of money.

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But seriously, if a business.

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Any business can't pay more than $40 for a business license.

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Maybe it shouldn't be in business.

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So I respectfully ask the committee.

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The council to take a look at business license fees and find out what the comparable rates are in other cities.

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And see if you can make me pay more next year.

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Thank you.

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Good idea.

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We've very seldom get people asking us to have them pay more.

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But great.

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Next speaker is Carlos Morris.

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Hello.

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I'm going to go first to meet you tonight.

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Thank you.

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And Randall, 155.

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Say Road Santa Paula, California for those who don't know.

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We'll be official here.

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Mayor Gerardi and esteemed council members and.

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Manager Rock.

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We're here on behalf of the Santa Paula Historical Society.

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We would like to share with you an invitation to a very special public event,

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for having. And also shared with you, we hope all of you might also participate by joining

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the Historical Society Mayor Gerardie. I know you've been a long time member, so we

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appreciate that. We'll leave these here with you. Carlos will be here to explain a little

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more about the event specifically, but again, we are asking, we're out kind of recruiting,

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and we're trying to get more members and more interested in our Historical Society. We're

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not politically motivated, we're not a community activist. We simply want to preserve history

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by offering these immense which are educational, and again, some of them we try to do

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a free or community events each year as well as our own annual meeting, which there's also

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some information there about annual meeting for members. So with that, thank you for having

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us here in letting us explain. I'm going to turn it over to my good friend and colleague Carlos,

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Juarez, and what you've explained about that? Can I have these? Yes, if it's a list.

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Yes, if it's a list. Okay. Okay. Are some application materials and some materials specifically

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about the event, which Carlos will speak about? Thank you.

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Thank you, and Randall. She's a president of the Historical Society. My name is Carlos Juarez. I live at

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1320 for an Oak Strive here in Santa Paula. I believe, thank you for those words about the

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Thomas fire. It's something that obviously affected all of us. I was here that night when

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the fire happened, tragedy can strike at any moment. Sometimes you have minutes to respond, sometimes

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hours, and it's incumbent upon all of us to remember. We're a historical study, and I'm sure we'll

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remember this as years go by. We were in as great an effect it has been to, or Montecito, but nevertheless,

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it started here. I draw your attention to what's going to be our event on Monday, March 12th at 7 p.m.

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For those of you that don't know, I don't remember, that would be the 90th anniversary of the

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break of the St. Francis Dam built by Wilmo Hond in the San Francisco, to serve the residents of Los

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Angeles. The night that it was filled, it was filled to capacity, and there was really nothing to

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give warning that it was going to give way other than it had a leak. And apparently it's quoted that they told

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much more home that the dam leaked in his response was odd dam's leak. Unfortunately, at 3 minutes to midnight

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on March 12th, 1928, the dam did break, and it started flowing down through the valley here, and so our residents

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had about 3 hours to be notified. And since there was nothing to full on them, all they had was the

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people from the town, including telephone operators who call people, people on motorcycles who wrote

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around, and of course neighbors. As a result of that, they've lost well over 400 people, and so what the

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historical site of this year is doing on Monday, March 12th is we're having a candlelight vigil. And this was an idea

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by Anyard Ways, who's a Santa Paul high school teacher for music.

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A member of our society. On that evening, we're going to begin at 7 o'clock at Ebel Park, and it will be an event that's going to be marked with some music by Xavier Montez, some speeches by Mitch Stone, John Nichols, and Peggy Helly, and some predators by Algaline and Nadi from the University of the Church.

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There's going to be luminarians set up that are going to designate the amount of people that passed because of the flood in a certain color. In another color, it's going to be those that were unidentified, and then there's going to be 16 that are going to be identified, who identified from Santa Paula.

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Those are going to be read by several students from all the schools in Santa Paula. She'd be a very moving event, and we promise you that it won't last more than an hour.

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So we'll be at Ebel Park on Monday, March 12th, and so we'd like to invite you and all the public to join us.

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As a follow-up to that, the historical site is having its annual dinner on that Thursday, the 15th, and I believe you're having some fliers that have passed out, and it'll kind of recap the events of the same Francis Stan, the kind of like visual, but also there'll be a speaker, John Wilkman, who's a filmmaker and author, who's going to be discussing the history of the event in his recent book Flood Path.

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So we encourage you, if you're not a member of the historical site, and there'll hopefully be an article on the paper the next few weeks of getting people to join us.

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Because it is for the historical site members or their guests, and I think at this point we'd like to invite as many people as possible to share that event, and it will be up to us on the 15th, 530 of Z.

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You know, goes far and I believe the event starts at 7, and again we hope to be no more than an hour.

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Thank you very much for your time.

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Thank you.

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And I would like to just say that both Ann and Carlos enter the audience that if you have an opportunity to participate in the historical societies, the events you should.

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It's a pretty low-cost organization, and I think the programs have always been extremely interesting and informative and really good for you to have an opportunity to take part in if you can.

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So thank you for coming tonight, and I will be at both, so.

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Thank you, Mayor Jordi. Thank you.

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Okay, our next speaker is Rose Chaconne. Rose.

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Mayor Jordi and rest of the city council members.

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I am here to speak in regards to some issues that have come to my attention in regards to our senior population here in Santa Paula.

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And these were items that most of them I wasn't aware of previously, and as I talked to people and started doing a very unscientific survey of just anecdotal answers from 10 people in town.

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And I asked the question, what can you give me one or two pressing issues that you would like to see addressed in Santa Paula, not necessarily by the city,

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but just by everybody.

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And I just wanted to bring these to your attention as you're thinking about potential regulations or things that you have to pass if you can kind of keep these things in the back of your mind.

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The first answer that I got, and I got from six different people.

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This was the number one item that they were very concerned with and I just went,

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the lighting downtown.

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They told me that they hated the lighting.

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They didn't, they were afraid to go out at night.

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They felt unsafe.

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They felt unsafe just walking and not being able to see the sidewalk clearly.

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You know, you're talking about people with walkers, with teens, and all sorts of limits on their mobility.

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And that was the number one item.

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And like I say, it was reiterated over and over again by different people.

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It was brought to my attention that there is a gap in our senior care facilities.

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There are senior care facilities.

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We have the VISTA cove, which is the skilled nursing facility.

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And if you don't need that, but you need just a little bit of help.

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Like in assisted living, we don't have an assisted living here in town.

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And so what is happening is that people that need a little bit of assistance end up having to stay in their home,

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which may have become unsafe and unsanitary for them to live in the conditions that they're now living in.

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Many people aren't aware that there are a number of assistance organizations here in town.

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And in order to bring that to light, it was suggested that we have like a senior fair where we bring everybody in.

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All the organizations hand out literature, talk to people, make them aware of things that are going on around town, both public and private.

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Dementious services.

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It was brought up that there are a lot of people that are in, just keep going.

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That are in various stages of dementia.

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And I know by I worked for a while with the Alzheimer's Association, they provide training on how to be sensitive to people with the various dementia.

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And I believe there is no or very little cost at doing that.

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And if we could have some of our public servants, people that work at counters, people that are in the grocery store, people that do a lot of things.

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And I can see this a lot of times, especially at the grocery store, where the checkers are going so fast.

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And people are, I mean, they get visibly upset because they can't keep up with what's going on around them.

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And I think we just need to be more sensitive to that.

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An issue regarding senior friendly communication, a website for the city.

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I've been told, it has so much on it that it becomes difficult.

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It is intimidating to use.

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And especially for seniors or anybody who is not computer literate.

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And if we can simplify it a little more, make the type a little bit bigger.

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These small things can make a big difference as to whether or not somebody is going to use this tool or not use it.

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Transportation is a big issue.

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And although we have our little bus that will come and pick up and all, there are many times that there are culturally events going on in town.

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Or just events that could facilitate social interaction with seniors that need, especially some that are at home most of the day to facilitate social interaction and get them out and get them enjoying life and that they're not isolated.

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Free and or reasonable house cleaning.

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This becomes very difficult, especially for people that are on the lower end of the economic.

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Scale and they can't do housework anymore.

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They can't bend and lift and do things.

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And if we got a group of volunteers, if people know that there's this kind of a need out there, they'll rise to the occasion.

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It was brought to my attention and intergenerational mentorship program.

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And that could benefit people on both sides that could involve tutoring, helping the person explore career.

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We have this wealth of knowledge information experience in our seniors and we are just letting it sit there.

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And they can provide so much for us and especially if they're here and they don't have family here.

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They have so much to give and we just have to reach out and bring that need together with someone who can fill that need.

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Nutrition classes.

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Simple exercises and exercise program, maybe they can develop themselves at home.

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I understand that the senior program at the senior center has granted not by the general fund but by grant funding.

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And if we can actively actively try to look for more grants for seniors and I hope that I understand that the assistant city manager wasn't that person supposed to be like a grant.

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Hi.

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To look for grants so that we can beef up that program because I know that over time it has gone willfully underfunded.

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And as I recall, isn't there supposed to be a senior like committee?

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Didn't we have one at one time?

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Like we have the youth committee and we have this committee in that.

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I don't think we have one but it might be an idea for the future.

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Yeah, because I would personally be very interested in being involved in something like that.

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Because just asking people this question, oh my gosh it was like somebody finally asked us and we can maybe have a voice.

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And so I just wanted to throw this out there.

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I know you guys got a lot on your plate but I'm giving you a little bit more to eat.

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Thank you Rose.

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Okay, the next one is Jack Pitluck.

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And I have two cards for Jack Pitluck.

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Some calling it out for two cards.

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Madam there, this is not a reflection on any of the speakers that we might move the municipal code from in front of the timer there.

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I don't know if you can't see it so I don't know what you're talking about.

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There you go.

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We don't want the code to create an obstacle.

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I don't even know if I should try to follow up after that.

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Yeah, it's a little problem.

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Marriage or party.

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Vice Mayor Carmen.

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Members of the Council of City manager.

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I'm here in the evening has Mayor Sped on two items in chronological order.

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The first is that the Santa Paula Chamber.

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Oh, I'm here representing the Santa Paula Chamber of Commerce.

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The first item I'm here to speak about is a Chamber of Commerce reception.

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We're calling it a super mixer that is being held on February 7th.

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That would be this week.

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And it will be at 530 p.m.

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A Placio events center.

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And it is a reception for the Santa Paula Times owners, Donna Debbie Johnson,

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who are beginning to step back from the paper.

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And I'm sure you all heard of that.

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We will be having prizes.

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This will be a Chamber mixer, but we will be having special prizes.

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Food.

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We will also be.

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Excuse me.

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We will also have a couple of tickets for moonlight at the ranch for those that are interested.

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The event is open to all, not just members of the chamber because this is a special event.

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Mission is $10 at the door.

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We look forward to and I want to invite all of you to join us.

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Okay.

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My second announcement for the evening and is actually an invitation to all of the members of the council,

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city manager and members of the city government as well as all members of our community.

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I'd like to formally invite our mayor to bring us our state of the city address on March 8th.

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Santa Paula Chamber of Commerce awards dinner.

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That will be held beginning at 530 at the Plasio event center.

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And it is a special evening for not only to hear our state of the city address, but also equally importantly.

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It is our awards banquet where we will honor a number of businesses and community service providers or participants.

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Normally, I would be up here announcing who those winners are this year.

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However, a couple of them have not been notified yet, so I'm going to hold back.

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But their names are right here.

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We do have a large business of the award, a small business of the award, non-profit community service of the year award.

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Business beautification of the year and citizen of the year.

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And this year we are going to have a Sam Edwards Lifetime Achievement Award.

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So it's going to be a very special evening.

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It will run beginning at 530 and we look forward to everyone attending to help us not only honor all of the award winners,

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but also to hear the mayor's state of the city address.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Chair.

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What was the start time on the chamber awards?

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530.

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530.

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530.

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Dinner at 6.

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Thank you, Chair.

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Okay, and I have one last card, and that's Andy Silva.

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Andy Silva.

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Andy Silva.

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1236.

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Bruce Rive.

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Santa Paula.

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Mayor.

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Vice Mayor of Thompson.

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I'm trying to get an update on what's going on with the consultant for the use services needs assessment.

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If it's my understanding that some limitations went out to some entities, I'm curious.

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Who was approached?

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What was the criteria?

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How will who went with a decision be made and how will it be made and who's making that decision?

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Who is going to help them to find the scope of the study once we figure out who it is?

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And how can interesting community members be involved?

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Thank you, Andy.

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I've already asked our city manager to comment on that.

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Under his city manager's report, so you may get your answers real quick.

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Thank you.

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Okay, I don't have any further cards for public comment. At this time, so I believe we're up to city council reports.

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Does anybody have a report?

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Yeah, a couple of things. A couple of events.

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And once you just this weekend, a really good event. One billion rising.

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And I think that council member, cross-white, could make a more comment on that.

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But I wanted to give a special thank you to, to, it's Heather Van Heam.

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Is that her name?

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I mean, she did an amazing job of community policing and talking to the people there.

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And just, I was so proud of her. And also, I want to make mention that the chief was there along with Scott Marner.

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And it was a great event. It was done in Spanish. And then translated into English.

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Then secondly, EDC VC, the economic development collaborative of Ventura County, I sit on that board.

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I attended their annual dinner with our assistant city manager, who has just been pointed out again.

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It's time to be out. I'm getting there. I'm getting closer.

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And it was really an interesting topic. And it was a mouthful.

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I'm going to have to read it entrepreneurial ecosystem.

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And at the beginning of the presentation, he played about a five or six minutes YouTube video.

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And it was called How Wolves Change Rivers.

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Now, I would recommend that you Google that.

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Because it talks about the reduction of Wolves into the Yellowstone Park.

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And what does that have to do with it?

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He kept drawing analogies of how bringing different businesses and how the parallels are in business and nature.

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But if nothing else, go watch the, it's called How Wolves Change Rivers.

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I just want to give a report back to the council.

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I had the opportunity.

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Little over a week ago to go tour the toll on the landfill.

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I don't know if any of you are aware.

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But as a result of the Thomas Fires, there was close to a thousand homes that were destroyed in our county.

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And so what we did was to partner with Cal Recycle, which is a state agency, to provide some debris clean up of those homes.

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And do it per health and safety and welfare codes.

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In other words, get all the hazardous material out.

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And have a clean space.

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So if those homeowners wanted to rebuild, they could do so.

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And this was at no cost to the homeowners.

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So about two thirds of those over 600 of them signed up for this debris clean up in our county.

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You know, not only to toll on landfill sustains some damage, as a result of the fire, which has already been repaired.

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And it's back online, it only took about three weeks to do so.

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They partnered with Cal Recycle, who's a lead agency in this and partnered with the county.

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Environmental Health and planning to authorize an emergency use authorization for the landfill to start accepting that.

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Debrit clean up.

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Increasing their daily tonage and allowing them to operate seven days a week in order to accommodate the intense amount of debris that was going up there.

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And they also partnered with the county using toll on park, which many of you may or may not know exists out there along toll and road.

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But it has a loop road around it where they were going to stage trucks to get them off the road.

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They also used a underpass that's just passed the Santa Clara River Valley School or the school little red school house.

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It's just passed that it's a right from the right-hand turn.

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You turn right and it goes under the one 26 and comes back up and heads back west to not in and date that left-hand turn lane going up to toll and road.

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And so I wanted to monitor that and see because they apparently had traffic monitors.

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They have daily air quality monitors out there that are in place by the contractor that the state contracted with to do this work.

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And it's not VRS. The Vinter Regional Sanitation District staff. It's a contracted workers with the state.

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Quite impressed with the operations up there. There was several trucks up there. They're always staging they have two scales up there to accommodate the amount of trucks.

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They have a lot of trucks that are monitoring the trucks that are coming in documenting them documenting that the waste has been fully wrapped before it goes up there.

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And up at the working face where they're putting this as well.

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So just want to let people know about that update. You may have seen these little. They're not quite the size of a regular semi truck.

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They're maybe about half the size. They're just little duck trucks and they're very well labeled.

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They say debris clean up contractor on the side. They've flagged them on. They're all numbered.

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But I do announce this for two reasons. One, your Regional Sanitation District Board representative on that board.

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That monitors that landfill and manages that along with other things throughout the county, but also if you have any complaints about how these trucks are driving.

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Please get in contact with me so that we can through the Regional Sanitation District Contact.

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That's how recycle who will then take that up with their operator.

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Okay, so that was a mouthful, but I just wanted to give you an update on that. I know they recently sent the mayor memo regarding a lot of this that I've spoke about tonight.

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And also to our local newspaper. So just to.

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Right.

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Martin. Thank you.

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I think what they're doing is something we clearly need.

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The only problem I had with it and it's something that's been rectified is that the city of Santa Paula was not notified. This was going on.

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So, you know, we found out about it through the newspaper.

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I think the county is a little bit aware of the fact that if they're going to be running 500 extra trucks on the street in front of us, that they need to tell us.

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And so the letter went a long way in explaining what they were doing, but clearly, you know, nobody's going to object. Everybody understands what the fire did.

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So thank you for your report. And if again, if you have any problems with it, contact Martin.

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Did you have anything you want to?

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I'll just say briefly. Thanks. Councilmember Proctor for your help with the one billion rising event.

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This was the fifth annual event and it went really well.

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We had a lot of sponsors and I'm not going to take up the time to thank them all right now, but thank you to everyone who helped and who attended.

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It was an event to raise awareness about domestic violence and human trafficking and all kinds of gender-based violence.

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And there were, I think, 13 to 15 different organizations that were there that people could get information from and resources.

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And they had on site counseling and so anyway, it was a great event.

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And then I also want to say thank you to Elvia Hernandez and our lady of Guadalupe Church, and then Jose Luis Milgar, a Palacio for the great event that they put on to thank all of the city workers and first responders from the Thomas fire.

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So thank you.

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Great. Thank you.

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Okay, I think we're, unless there's anybody else, have anything less than it.

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I would concur with that. It was a great event at Palacio.

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Can I ask for the city manager's report?

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Yes, thank you Mayor members of the council. A couple things.

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There is a, the council gave direction to staff back a couple months ago to proceed with the needs assessment for youth services and programs.

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The staff released requests for proposals from professional consulting companies.

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We did receive responses back or reviewing those responses.

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And we will come back to the city council with a recommendation to hire a consultant at the next council meeting.

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The scope of work is includes interviews, surveys, focus groups, community workshops, and a summary report.

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And all of this is a public document and is in the request for proposals.

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I'd be happy to share that with Andy or anyone who's interested in what the scope of work is.

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And so we're looking forward to getting that process started very soon.

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And related to that issue, the youth advisory committee, which the council did form last year.

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We have finally finished the application and release of waivers and have permission from the city attorney to proceed with recruiting five.

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I believe it's five members to a youth advisory committee.

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We'll be working with the school district to immediately advertise those openings.

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And we will have it on our webpage and Facebook very soon.

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The application is available for anybody who's interested up to 25 years of age and looking forward to getting that committee started.

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So that is underway.

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Do you have anything else?

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Oh, I do have one other item.

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I received a communication from the county regarding the memorandum of agreement on the fire and excitation issue.

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And they will be meeting internally on Wednesday of this week and they will be setting up a meeting to respond.

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And to continue this negotiating process with the city hopefully next week.

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So that is moving along and report further on that is.

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And we're hoping to, you know, just keep this thing moving as quickly as we can.

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Great.

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Okay.

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So we are now up to the approval of final agenda.

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Anybody have any changes?

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Okay, consent calendar.

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Do we have an action?

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We don't have any comments that you want to pull anything on.

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Okay, so I'll move first.

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That we approve the final agenda.

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All of it.

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Hi.

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And I'll move.

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We approve the consent calendar.

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Second.

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All those in favor?

450
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Okay, that was quick.

451
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,000
We're making up for time that we let people run over just a few.

452
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:09,000
Okay, so we're up to the order of business and I believe.

453
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:16,000
The item is the discussion of the administration of the housing authority board and the affordable housing trust funds.

454
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,000
So may I remember the council.

455
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,000
I have a couple of bars on that too.

456
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,000
Okay.

457
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,000
Would you like to do that?

458
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,000
I think maybe we.

459
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,000
I'm just going to get a shake of heads for people.

460
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:30,000
I think maybe we'll be appropriate for us to have the staff presentation first.

461
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,000
And then we'll call this.

462
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,000
Okay.

463
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,000
Okay.

464
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:38,000
So the council suggested a.

465
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,000
Basically, this is sort of like a workshop.

466
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,000
It's just that it was a short agenda.

467
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,000
So we put it on the regular agenda.

468
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:56,000
And then James are deputy planning directors going to give a presentation on the housing authority and on the in the housing fees issue.

469
00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:00,000
This is a study session.

470
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,000
We're looking for direction perhaps from the city council.

471
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,000
There are no recommended actions tonight.

472
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,000
So with that, I will invite James Mason to.

473
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,000
Give the report.

474
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,000
Thank you.

475
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,000
Good evening Madam Mayor.

476
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,000
Vice Mayor and council members.

477
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,000
So Mr. Rock mentioned.

478
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:48,000
So tonight more of a workshop or study session than actual order of business kind of to give you the council.

479
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:53,000
Some background and be able to get some direction for staff from council.

480
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:59,000
Staff recommends that city council receive and file this report and direct staff on recommended alternatives.

481
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:05,000
I've got several recommended alternatives at the end of the report that we can discuss further.

482
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,000
And take action.

483
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,000
Both on council side and on staff side as we move forward.

484
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:21,000
I want to go through a few things just a little bit of background on some of the city processes and how housing authority came to be and where we are today.

485
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:32,000
But basically in 1969 based on state statutes city council adopted a resolution declaring the city council as the housing authority and the council as the commissioners of the authority.

486
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:42,000
In 1970 the council adopted another resolution rescinding the council as the housing authority commission and appointed commissioners of the Santa Paula Housing Authority.

487
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:52,000
The Santa Paula Housing Authority was formed in 1968 so it kind of preceded the actual council housing authority.

488
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,000
So it's kind of two entities operating at the same time.

489
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:02,000
I think the idea was to provide direction so that there wasn't a conflict there.

490
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:09,000
But then in 2014 the city council adopted resolution authorizing the housing authority to administer in movies.

491
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,000
We'll talk about that a little bit more.

492
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:18,000
Excuse me and ask and if you have a question as he's going long because this is a very confusing issue.

493
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,000
Please feel free to let me know and we'll ask him a question.

494
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:27,000
So are you saying that since 1970 to 2014?

495
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,000
Nobody changed any of the rules or any of the regulations.

496
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:35,000
I presume the council appointed the housing commissioners in 1970.

497
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:40,000
Who's appointed them since because they can't also be alive.

498
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,000
That.

499
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:49,000
The municipal code grants the authority to the city council to appoint housing authority commissioners.

500
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,000
It has not been done since I've been city attorney.

501
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,000
So I can't I can't see when the last time it was done.

502
00:44:55,000 --> 00:45:00,000
Okay, so do we have the terms of the existing people we know who they are.

503
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:22,000
But what it is, what they are. We don't have that tonight, but I will address that later also. I think the main thing is the overarching theme that you'll see in this is just really how we move forward, what we know as far as accountability and how we ensure that from the council side and how affordable housing is managed that we have visibility, clarity and accountability.

504
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:32,000
Can you clarify you said that there was at 1.2 different organizations and in 1970 they became one, is that what you said?

505
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,000
No, so you clarify that actually it's something about 1968.

506
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:51,000
In 1968, the housing authority as an organization was formed. In 1969, the housing authority as a council commission managing funding and processes associated with affordable housing.

507
00:45:51,000 --> 00:46:09,000
So one was a nonprofit, one was a city entity and in 1970 the city turned that over to the nonprofit to that commission, to their commission to be the board for affordable housing.

508
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:20,000
James, in some place in your presentation, I don't want to make you jump ahead. Are you going to address how the agency is funded, who's responsible for it and how does it relate to the city?

509
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:30,000
Okay, you are as usual on the spoiler alert, so there goes my whole presentation.

510
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,000
Sorry.

511
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,000
Yeah, well, I was at a order all year.

512
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:47,000
Just a student up to figure that one out, but really what it comes down to is there'll be some recommendations on how we get to that point because that's really important to how we move forward.

513
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,000
So I will address that. Okay.

514
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,000
Last thing I'll address, unfortunately, but I'll get there.

515
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,000
Okay.

516
00:46:54,000 --> 00:47:06,000
Also in 2004, the city initiated in lieu housing ordinance and that was to ensure that affordable housing was a priority within the city.

517
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:15,000
And also when housing was built that didn't fit it within affordable housing, that there's in lieu fees associated to ensure that there's funds available to build.

518
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,000
Low income and very low income housing in the community.

519
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:24,000
Excuse me. The city just didn't do it because they're good people. They did it because the state law required them to do that. Is that correct?

520
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,000
That is correct.

521
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,000
Okay.

522
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,000
Just want to be clear on that.

523
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,000
That.

524
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:36,000
That committee that did that along with Mary Ann Crossey who is in the audience.

525
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:41,000
And I don't remember that being an absolute, absolute necessity.

526
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,000
But anyway, let's go ahead.

527
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,000
We get argue both in front of that perspective.

528
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,000
Maybe it became one.

529
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:56,000
As cities in lieu housing ordinance really in certain circumstances, as I mentioned, developers are authorized to pay those fees instead of building affordable housing units.

530
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,000
That goes into cities affordable housing trust fund.

531
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,000
Let's talk about that a little bit later.

532
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:08,000
And then the in lieu fees are deposited in that trust fund and city council defines how that's used.

533
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:17,000
And the city manager or as designated as a community and ministers that affordable housing trust fund based on council's recommendations.

534
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,000
And first amendment in the rest of the development agreement.

535
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,000
This is important because when we're talking about in lieu housing,

536
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:27,000
the biggest significant impact that we're going to deal with is coming out of the Luminaire Lewis development.

537
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:32,000
And as a part of that ordinance and as a part of the development agreement, the Luminaire Lewis,

538
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:38,000
the developer will contribute to total of $6.5 million to the city's affordable housing trust fund.

539
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:43,000
And that's around $4600 per unit that receives a certificate of occupancy.

540
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:53,000
Real quickly just because there looks like there may be a gap there between $4600 and $65.5 million.

541
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:57,000
It's exclusive of public benefit units and assisted living units.

542
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:08,000
So there are some units that they plan to build that will qualify for affordable housing that will take some of them off of the in lieu.

543
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:14,000
So moving forward the concerns that we have is there needs to be clarity and accountability regarding the operation of the housing authority.

544
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:21,000
And whether that's an external agency or an internal agency, we all have a fiduciary responsibility for the use of public funds.

545
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,000
The need for a competitive process to allocate the funds.

546
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:28,000
And that's important because there's shifts in affordable housing demands.

547
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:34,000
I mean there are needs within the community that year to year, decade to decade dramatically can change,

548
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,000
where the needs are.

549
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,000
Is it families?

550
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,000
Is it veterans?

551
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,000
Is it homeless?

552
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,000
Is it seniors?

553
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,000
And having an understanding of what those things are.

554
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,000
And then funding sources.

555
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,000
Grants are available.

556
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,000
Matching funds are available from the state and federal government.

557
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:50,000
And they're looking for things like collaboration between organizations.

558
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,000
To be able to get those funds.

559
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:56,000
And current reliance on the housing trust fund to leverage funding as I mentioned.

560
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,000
State and federal funds are available.

561
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:04,000
Those funds can be used to as match funds to actually get us more funding for programs.

562
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:08,000
And then diversity of vulnerable groups that need affordable housing.

563
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,000
I already mentioned.

564
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:10,000
We've got farm workers.

565
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,000
We've got homeless.

566
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:15,000
We've got veterans seniors and families that are all within.

567
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,000
And people with disabilities all within low income categories.

568
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:22,000
And being able to ensure that we have a process that addresses all of them.

569
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:27,000
So quickly, revisions to the affordable housing administration authority.

570
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:33,000
These are some of the things that staff is really from a, I guess from a workshops standpoint,

571
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,000
putting out there for council to consider some approaches.

572
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,000
One is to initiate city council as the housing authority board,

573
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:47,000
being responsible for affordable housing policy, housing inluffies, and affordable housing trust funds.

574
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:54,000
And then another one is to implement an affordable housing advisory body.

575
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,000
Like the planning commission or, as you mentioned, youth commission.

576
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:02,000
Having a body that can provide recommendations on housing policy to the council.

577
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:07,000
Reach out to community stakeholders that deal with affordable housing and provide that information to council.

578
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,000
Recommendations on the allocations of funds.

579
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:14,000
And on the city control funds, the inluffies and housing trust fund.

580
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:18,000
And establish and maintain relationships with local affordable housing development organizations.

581
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:23,000
So that we have openness, transparency and really best practices within the market.

582
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,000
Understanding what's happening out there.

583
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:31,000
And that body could be accomplished two different ways.

584
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:41,000
One like we do many of our commissions, a pointing five group member that's individuals that are not affiliated with affordable housing agencies or with the city.

585
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:51,000
Or by initiating a competitive process to select an agency that has a specialty in working collaboratively with private nonprofits and public sector.

586
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,000
James, I'm going to stop you again.

587
00:51:53,000 --> 00:52:03,000
Because again, I'm having difficulty understanding the issue because it's not clear to me what the other agency does.

588
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:09,000
Okay and I and I'm not sure the relationship between the city and the other agency.

589
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:13,000
I know people that can't afford an apartment or simply to live go to them.

590
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,000
They apply for some kind of low income housing.

591
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,000
They help them to get on a long list.

592
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,000
These help them get an apartment or something.

593
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,000
They check out apartments.

594
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,000
They manage their rent.

595
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:30,000
I'm not sure how what they do and I also find it unusual or perhaps.

596
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:36,000
Odd that nobody from the housing authorities here this evening to discuss.

597
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:43,000
Are they okay to discuss what it is what their role is and what the relationship is with the city.

598
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:53,000
And until I really have a good understanding of that question, I have a hard time looking at making recommendations for change because it's not clear what they're doing right now.

599
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,000
I can address that right now.

600
00:52:55,000 --> 00:53:05,000
Where I was going and really what it comes down to is we have not had any formalized process for receiving an annual report.

601
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,000
Understanding how operations happen.

602
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,000
Understanding what the responsibilities are.

603
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:14,000
And that's critically important and you know, you picking up on that from the standpoint.

604
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:22,000
If we're going to make decisions based on an operation of an organization and what the financial responsibilities are and how it's operating.

605
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:26,000
And we may take those responsibilities over as a council and as staff.

606
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,000
It behooves us to understand what those things are.

607
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,000
At this point we do not have.

608
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:40,000
We have not received those reports and one of the recommendations staff has is for council to recommend that we approach the housing authority.

609
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:46,000
Receive start to receive an annual report and get a full disclosure of understanding how all of all these things work.

610
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:55,000
So we can come back to you with a clear understanding of what is entailed and how how the operation works and what our responsibility could be.

611
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:56,000
Okay.

612
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:03,000
From again my perspective apparently we've been doing this since 1970 according to this.

613
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:11,000
And so there should be some clarity or some idea of what the city's role is versus what the housing authority's role is.

614
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:17,000
And whether it's changed in 2004 or not I don't know but it seems to me that that ought to be the first step.

615
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,000
And at least laying that out.

616
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:25,000
So we see exactly what the expectations are what the responsibilities are of each of the agencies.

617
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:30,000
I think I understand the fiduciary responsibility of the city having fees.

618
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:36,000
And whether they you know by by ordinance or whatever couple years ago they just gave it to the housing authority.

619
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:42,000
Whether we're going to leave that or not is an issue or a question but I think we ought to have the information.

620
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:48,000
So we have that fully in front of us before we make a decision about which way to go.

621
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:52,000
That's just my opinion on others may differ on that John.

622
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,000
I can get through the presentation because I think he's okay.

623
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,000
I think he's almost done.

624
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,000
And I would address that too that that's.

625
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:02,000
Madam Mayor it's it's clear that we.

626
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:06,000
Put it plainly we need a clear understanding of soup to nuts before we can do anything.

627
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,000
I mean we really really do.

628
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,000
I'm sorry.

629
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,000
No thank you John.

630
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,000
I thought it was finished.

631
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:18,000
And then the other thing was talking about a fort just the affordable housing trust fund in in Luffy's that there is.

632
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:22,000
There's an opportunity to have a competitive process that's another recommendation.

633
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:32,000
It provides for rehabilitation and preservation and production of quality housing and ensure as I mentioned before that the type of housing that's presented and provided is diverse.

634
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:40,000
So there's you know lots of players in the market and that are nonprofits that understand all the nuances of different affordable housing options.

635
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:45,000
And it would benefit us to have a better understanding and better opportunity to have better products.

636
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:51,000
Yeah, maybe I'm confusing this would be able to re-development agency housing set aside.

637
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:59,000
But isn't there it was a certain percentage that was devoted to rehab that we could only use a certain percentage just evering about.

638
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:04,000
That was part of the resolution that was passed in 2014.

639
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,000
2014.

640
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:06,000
Okay.

641
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:14,000
That was something that the the council at the time said that 20% of that should be used for that purpose.

642
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:19,000
Okay.

643
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:27,000
So these are alternatives that we'd be looking at as I mentioned earlier further along down the road.

644
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:36,000
And that's we're sending the resolution that exists authorizing the housing authority to administer in Luffy's and housing trust fund.

645
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:46,000
And which is especially the East area one development trust funds and then adopt a resolution authorizing the city council to function as the housing authority board.

646
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:53,000
And then finally directing staff to initiate a competitive process to select an affordable housing advisory committee so that kind of hierarchy.

647
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,000
However,

648
00:56:55,000 --> 00:57:05,000
Here we go to the city council could also direct staff to require a comprehensive annual report from the housing authority and return to the city council with the report.

649
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:13,000
And review the organization operations financial management programs before seeking any further direction.

650
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:14,000
So that's.

651
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:31,000
Just to add to that for some context here in the vast majority of cities in California have the function of a housing authority board is the responsibility of the city council acting the capacity of a housing authority board.

652
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:44,000
And then vast majority of cities do it that way in Santa Paula in 1970 they decided the council decided to release that authority to this body.

653
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:58,000
What's a little bit unusual is that the housing authority as far as we can tell is still appointed by the city council even though they act relatively independently.

654
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:09,000
And have full authority to make decisions on staffing budgets and all the typical things that an organization would do.

655
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:26,000
So what James and I are and we've been talking about this for a while is what we really I think what we need to do at this point and get direction from the city council is to come back to you with a full report and annual report but also a full report.

656
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:36,000
Of the governance structure of the housing authority their annual budget process their capital their projects that they're working on.

657
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:41,000
So that you can get a much better sense of how does this organization work.

658
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,000
What do they do?

659
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:53,000
What are their financial commitments and how are they staffed and how does that relate to what and how does the city fit into that picture.

660
00:58:53,000 --> 00:59:04,000
As far as we can tell it has acted as a very independent standalone agency although the city council does appoint the housing authority board.

661
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:13,000
And then Lucy the city clerk and I have been asking all of the existing housing authority board members whether they're interested in being re-appointed or not.

662
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:24,000
As soon as we get that information we were planning to come back to the city council to resolve the issue of of the actual appointing process and the seats that are available there.

663
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:37,000
They're supposed to be appointed every four years and that's the function of the council and working with the staff to make sure that they are re-appointed so we'll we will do that at the next meeting as well.

664
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:42,000
Let me ask a couple more specific questions.

665
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:49,000
Is the housing authority working on the behest of the city council?

666
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:53,000
No not the way that it's been running practice now.

667
00:59:53,000 --> 01:00:00,000
I understand the way it's been running practice but based on what you was said in 1969 and 1969.

668
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:08,000
1770 appears that the city turned over its obligation to the housing authority in the city's obligation.

669
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:16,000
So what I'm asking for is like, if you were an independent agency, this is, and bricks I know is on there.

670
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:24,000
If you were an independent agency, you would have statutory authority.

671
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:33,000
And you would have specific rules and regulations that you have to be in compliance with.

672
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:38,000
So I'm having difficulty understanding what their role is relative to the city.

673
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,000
And I think Rick, who's on the board, can answer some of those.

674
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,000
So, please ask Rick to step up. Thank you.

675
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:48,000
I've been on the housing authority for 37 years.

676
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:52,000
You're confusing the whole situation.

677
01:00:52,000 --> 01:01:07,000
I'm sure I am. The housing authority is an independent board that originally was put together by the city council because of Section 8 funding that the federal government was going to give to the city of Santa Paula.

678
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:18,000
In order to do that, they had to produce a third party entity of non-profit organization to handle the Section 8 housing back in to 70s.

679
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:25,000
I was appointed to the board in 1982. Paul Beckett was the original actually was done all over.

680
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:30,000
It was the first one. Paul Beckett was the second one that ran this organization.

681
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:38,000
We have bylaws. We have responsibilities to the federal government because of the Section 8.

682
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,000
That was originally what was, that's all we did.

683
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,000
It was which rental assistance.

684
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:53,000
The rental assistance we had about 200 homes or families that were had funding available.

685
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:59,000
We would go and we're now at the 550 under the Section 8.

686
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:03,000
What's just being confused is the inluffy.

687
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:10,000
It's totally different. It's a whole separate situation from what the housing authority was originally set up to do.

688
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:15,000
During the Carter administration.

689
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:18,000
But there was cuts made to the federal government program.

690
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:24,000
What we looked at is how are we going to successfully help these families.

691
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:28,000
We were up to probably 300 or 400 families under Section 8.

692
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,000
We had no rental assistance.

693
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:36,000
The whole Oakland organization got into big trouble because they owned apartments.

694
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:40,000
And they were not only using Section 8 funding.

695
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:45,000
They were taking some of the other programs that were available.

696
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:50,000
Over the many years the federal government has tried to present other programs.

697
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:54,000
There was a housing assistance program in which a person could get into housing assistance.

698
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:58,000
And part of their assistance would go to a down payment to their houses.

699
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:01,000
As long as they stayed on their program for 10 years.

700
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,000
But after that 10 years they have to get off and they'd have to buy their own home.

701
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:08,000
We attempted that program probably 15 years ago.

702
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:12,000
We had like four families that took advantage of it.

703
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,000
But it really was under a federal program.

704
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,000
This whole housing authority.

705
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,000
It was nothing to do with the city of Santa Paula.

706
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,000
As far as reporting every year.

707
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:25,000
We'd go do the same thing that the city of Santa Paula did.

708
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,000
We hired independent outside.

709
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:28,000
Auditors.

710
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:29,000
They come in.

711
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,000
They do an annual audit.

712
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,000
We have to report to the federal government.

713
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:36,000
And there's same thing that you do.

714
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:41,000
What are the recommendations any findings that are made.

715
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:46,000
All those have been annually sent to the city of Santa Paula.

716
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:47,000
I don't know where they go.

717
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,000
But they've been sent annually to you.

718
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:50,000
It's a public record.

719
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:54,000
The same is what you have when you do your odds.

720
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:58,000
So every year we have to go out to bid.

721
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:02,000
I think we usually go to a three-year program for our auditors.

722
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:06,000
And annually we get an audit.

723
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:10,000
Probably two-year-old, whenever the 2014 came up.

724
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:11,000
The Enlufee's came up.

725
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:14,000
And it wasn't us that came to the city council.

726
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,000
It was city manager at the time.

727
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:22,000
They came to us and said, I need a mechanism in which to use this money to build,

728
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:25,000
to build homes in Loufee's.

729
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:26,000
He came to us.

730
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:27,000
We didn't come to them.

731
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:31,000
And he said, we've seen some of the programs you've done.

732
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:36,000
Because back when I told you that the Section 8 is all we did, we were afraid that the federal government

733
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,000
was going to cut that program.

734
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,000
And we wouldn't be able to help these people.

735
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:45,000
So our first project in which we were purchasing something was at 8th and Harvard.

736
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,000
We purchased 32 units.

737
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,000
And we used some in Loufee.

738
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:51,000
We didn't use in Loufee's.

739
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:54,000
We used some tax benefits to the owner.

740
01:04:54,000 --> 01:05:00,000
If the owner financed us, all his interest was tax-free.

741
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,000
He could sell it to us, hold that paper.

742
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:07,000
Anything he made was tax-free to him under the federal government.

743
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:11,000
So we've used that several times to purchase different programs.

744
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,000
We've purchased apartments.

745
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:17,000
And the reason we were doing that is we knew, if we owned the apartments,

746
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:21,000
we could use that profit to supplement the Section 8.

747
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,000
And that's the only reason we got into owning apartments.

748
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:30,000
We didn't try and own apartments just to buy apartments or to do.

749
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:39,000
The next one that came up Mayor Gonzalez, the health care agency was going under on Main Street.

750
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:44,000
He came to us because the county wanted to turn it into something that he didn't want.

751
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:49,000
And he said, would you be able to make that a senior housing project?

752
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:53,000
And we said, yeah, we can go look at state funding for nonprofits.

753
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:54,000
And that's exactly what we did.

754
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,000
And we purchased that one.

755
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:56,000
Right at the corner.

756
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,000
I think it was dean.

757
01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:59,000
Right there.

758
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,000
We did that one next.

759
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,000
And that's basically how we've grown.

760
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:09,000
We've, as we got money and as we were funding, there was venture county community trust.

761
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:13,000
We've used their money for down payments and we've paid them back.

762
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:21,000
But because you, the nonprofit availability of funds from not only private enterprises, but state and federal,

763
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:24,000
we've been able to purchase other projects.

764
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:32,000
As far as being seniors, we only did that because the council told us that's what you wanted.

765
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:41,000
In 2005, we bought Harvard Place, which is next to Poeloco, and we built that project.

766
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:45,000
And that was a collaboration with another nonprofit.

767
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,000
Housing trusts.

768
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,000
And we take over that one.

769
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:52,000
It was a 15 year buyout.

770
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:56,000
We take over complete control of that this next year.

771
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,000
But that was through.

772
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:02,000
It's got the longs office at the time that helped us with some of the funding.

773
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:05,000
So we're really independent of the city.

774
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,000
But what you do is control our commissioners.

775
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:12,000
You are supposed to appoint the commissioners.

776
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:21,000
And then after that, we're really an independent board that acts and is responsible to follow federal guidelines.

777
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:33,000
And any funding sources that we use, which would be the inluffy, you would attach any requirements to the inluffies towards the housing authority.

778
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:37,000
And if I'm understanding, it would be helpful to have this explanation.

779
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:42,000
And with this information, that's been put out today.

780
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:47,000
But yeah, I was I was I saw this going on and I thought I'm going to just run down.

781
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:52,000
Well, I believe I can express it in very much Rick, but what you're saying.

782
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:58,000
I think is that up until the issue of inluffies are really is in any city money involved.

783
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,000
Right. Exactly.

784
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:03,000
It's all federal state or some kind of grant.

785
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,000
That's all it ever was.

786
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:09,000
And then Jaime came to Randy J. I believe.

787
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,000
And said, I've liked your projects.

788
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,000
Can you do it? Would the siloufi help?

789
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:18,000
And obviously say, yeah, we could, you know, it'd be very helpful.

790
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,000
Yeah, that's all true.

791
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:29,000
What's highly unusual about this setup is that everything Rick's described would typically be an independent housing authority board.

792
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,000
Lots of big cities have them.

793
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:32,000
Sacramento housing authority.

794
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,000
It's a separate company.

795
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,000
There's nothing to do with the city of Sacramento.

796
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,000
They are independently.

797
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:46,000
A board that is elected either by the people that large or appointed.

798
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:53,000
But this is this is a little unusual because the council has to continually.

799
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:58,000
Keep the board intact by re-appointing by an appointment process.

800
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,000
And normally housing authority boards would be completely separate.

801
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:04,000
And so that's where it's a little.

802
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:08,000
A little fuzzy in terms of what is the city's role.

803
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:12,000
Everything Rick said is true in terms of how they've operated.

804
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:20,000
And so what I would suggest is that we come back to the council with a little more detailed sort of.

805
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,000
Here's where they are. Here's what they've done.

806
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,000
Here's who's on their board.

807
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:27,000
Here's, you know, where they are right now with their budget and their project.

808
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:31,000
To see you have a better understanding of everything they do.

809
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:35,000
So that we can then figure out.

810
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:39,000
Where do you want to go in terms of not just the in-loop housing fee.

811
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:43,000
But all the other projects that are going on.

812
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,000
Yeah.

813
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,000
We can take public comment.

814
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:48,000
And then we may have.

815
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,000
Could you stay because we may have a few more questions.

816
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:52,000
Thank you.

817
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,000
Going to call public comment at this point.

818
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,000
I'd like to call Mary and Krause.

819
01:09:56,000 --> 01:10:02,000
Good evening Madam Mayor and members of council.

820
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:10,000
I have a prepared statement that there were several questions that kind of came up that I'd like to answer as well.

821
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:15,000
One of them is while I was on council with councilman proctor.

822
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:19,000
We did a point housing authority members during that time.

823
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:25,000
I recall interviewing people and we chose not to re-appoint someone and appointed someone else in their place.

824
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:30,000
So that was still going on as recently as 2006.

825
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:40,000
Next, the state law does not require us to have an inclusionary housing ordinance.

826
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:46,000
It was our own city housing element that was adopted actually while councilman

827
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:59,000
Espanosa was on council that said this is going to be probably the most important tool that the city has to meet the housing need that the state was imposing.

828
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:14,000
And so by the time councilman proctor and I were on council together we were the subcommittee that was working with staff to put together the inclusionary housing ordinance.

829
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:19,000
And that's the ordinance that includes the in-lu fees.

830
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:21,000
So that's how we got there.

831
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:28,000
That inclusionary housing ordinance does not recognize the use of any of those funds for rehabilitation.

832
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:32,000
It was to create new housing, not to rehabilitate housing.

833
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:40,000
You might be able to use some of those funds if you were taking market rate housing and turning it into affordable.

834
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:44,000
You might approve some rehab as a part of that process.

835
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:54,000
But it's not to rehab individual homes or other apartments or whatever because the city has other funds that they use for that purpose.

836
01:11:54,000 --> 01:12:01,000
You have community development block grant funds and often.

837
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:08,000
But the reality is you would always program more community development block grant funds than you could use and you were at the end of the year.

838
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:13,000
You were reprogramming those funds because you hadn't used all your rehab money.

839
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:19,000
So the inclusionary housing ordinance money is supposed to be for new housing to create new housing.

840
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:22,000
Okay, so now my prepared statement.

841
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:27,000
I'm here with a group of people who are in the audience and we are Santa Paula together.

842
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:34,000
Which is a coalition of organizations and individuals that was formed in the fall of 2015.

843
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:41,000
To review and to comment on changes and emerging details related to the East area one development.

844
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:48,000
Several members of our organization are current or former members of the Santa Paula Farmorker Housing Committee,

845
01:12:48,000 --> 01:13:00,000
which has a long history of advocacy on the housing element on the inclusionary housing ordinance and on the inluffies that come from that ordinance.

846
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,000
Following on their work.

847
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:11,000
Our organization has studied and remains very concerned about the management and the distribution of the inluffies in general.

848
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:18,000
And specifically on the six and a half million dollars that would be paid by the East area one development.

849
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:26,000
We believe that a fair and open process for distribution is needed to ensure that the funds will be used for their intended purpose.

850
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:32,000
And that adequate fiscal controls will be put in place to protect those valuable funds.

851
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:42,000
We also believe there should be an open examination of the two million dollars that the Santa Paula Housing Authority says it is already committed.

852
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:49,000
Just to note on our organization and the future you may see some of our work under the name Santa Clara Valley together,

853
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:56,000
which is a larger coalition that was recently formed to address issues of valley wide concern.

854
01:13:56,000 --> 01:14:02,000
Santa Clara Valley together includes people from Santa Paula, Fillmore and Pyro.

855
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:09,000
And for purely local issues like we're talking about tonight, we will continue to address you as Santa Paula together.

856
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,000
Thank you.

857
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:25,000
Good evening, all you hardworking council and staff.

858
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,000
I'm Ellen Brokeau.

859
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:32,000
I'm speaking tonight for the Santa Paula Pharmacare Housing Committee.

860
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:36,000
Now we call ourselves Santa Paula House Pharmacare.

861
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:45,000
This committee started about, I don't know, at least 16 years ago, started by Al Galine and Dora Crouch.

862
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:56,000
With the mission vision that every Pharmacare living in Santa Paula have safe affordable decent housing.

863
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:59,000
And that is still our goal.

864
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:10,160
And it has still not been achieved. I am going to scrap most of what I was going to say having

865
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:21,040
listened to the presentation so far, which particularly listening to Mr. Arisa really underlines

866
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:34,760
our conviction that the city council needs to take charge and be in charge of how money's in the city, in the housing

867
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:43,620
and trust fund. The Senate Paul Housing Trust Fund are allocated. You have approved a housing element that tells

868
01:15:43,620 --> 01:15:54,300
you what the needs are in the community, and it's not just farm workers, it's widespread, and commits you to addressing those needs.

869
01:15:54,300 --> 01:16:03,880
And now you are going to have a substantial fund from the East area one to make a dent in that.

870
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:29,640
And Mr. Arisa made clear that the Santa Paula housing authority has primarily been working with the feds, and not carrying any of Santa Paula specific housing goals, and no fault to them, that was the way it was set up.

871
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:59,400
So, city council, the farm worker housing committee strongly supports your becoming the makers of policy and the administrators of the in-loop funds, and I think that way those funds will have the best chance to be effectively used to build the most

872
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:07,680
quantity and best quality housing for our community. Thank you.

873
01:17:37,680 --> 01:18:07,160
Good evening, I'm Laura Spinoza, district director for Lou Lack, and I'm pleased to offer some comment tonight in support of the proposed recommendations of noted in the city council staff report, Lou Lack district 17 is a member of the Santa Paula together and Santa Paula Santa Clara Valley together group, and

874
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:21,680
we have followed the status of this item for several years and have participated in review of the council documents, resolutions and actions of previous city council bodies.

875
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:33,680
We advocate for your current action in order to emphasize the needed transparency going forward in the administration and distribution of future in Lou fees.

876
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:51,680
That is a key component that was seem to be lacking was transparency. We ask for a retraction of the previous resolution awarding the Santa Paula housing authority without that RFP process.

877
01:18:52,680 --> 01:19:10,680
These in Lou fees and we seek a new resolution from you. It is also concerning to the public that all due diligence and openness allow for complete packs about all financials be presented regarding receipt of or allocation of in Lou fees.

878
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:28,680
It would be helpful if staff reports and I believe that it was adequately done in this report but going forward seeking additional facts and to include the legal criteria and the history of the use of these funds.

879
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:33,680
Thank you for your time and your review of this very important matter.

880
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:42,680
Thank you at this point with your indulgence I'd like to ask Rick to come back up to the podium and then I have a couple of questions and some of you may have questions.

881
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:50,680
Okay, if I'm finally letting this sink in because obviously I'm having a thick hit at night tonight.

882
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:56,680
There are currently no housing trust funds money. Is that correct?

883
01:19:56,680 --> 01:20:02,680
Right, that too many dollars that apparently everybody thinks is committed to the housing authority.

884
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:10,680
It was not given to the housing authority. What the housing authority did in building the project on 12th Street and building the project on Oak Street.

885
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:16,680
We had to go out and have some financing to look for it.

886
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:23,680
I want to see the bank and your county community trust, lend us money for development.

887
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:31,680
One of the things that the bank said is we need some collateral and we told them, well we're going to get so much money.

888
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:39,680
Okay, so when you get that money, can we commit some of that money as collateral basically.

889
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:47,680
So it hasn't been spent. It's just it's kind of just saying it will extend you a credit card based on what you're going to get.

890
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:54,680
And we don't expect you to pay it to us. It's just in the event that that project falls apart.

891
01:20:54,680 --> 01:21:00,680
The project isn't falling apart. It's just before we even build it. We know what we're going to charge for rents.

892
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:06,680
We know we have a huge market that is necessary to pay for that project.

893
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:12,680
So in every project we've ever before we even get started on it, we want to make sure it's self-sustaining once it's built.

894
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:18,680
But to build it, we didn't have the funds to build it ourselves. We had to go out and find funding to build it.

895
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:25,680
Once the funding, it's a construction loan, it transfers into a permanent loan with supposedly your 20.

896
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:30,680
It's the same as I'm going to make it simplified. If you're going to buy a home, you would put 20% down.

897
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:35,680
And that's the collateral we use and then they finance the rest of it.

898
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:39,680
But it's all it's paper basically at this point.

899
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:44,680
OK. I've never had a problem with going to a competitive process.

900
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:50,680
But that's not was asked of the housing authority. What was asked of the housing authority was can you handle the $6 million?

901
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:51,680
Which we could.

902
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:56,680
And I have that because it's obviously that was what was asked at the time.

903
01:21:56,680 --> 01:22:00,680
I just want to make sure I understand where we are with the money.

904
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:05,680
What money is within the city's budget and or purview.

905
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:11,680
And what the housing authority has. What you've just said is use 2 million as a collateral.

906
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:13,680
But you don't even think you're going to need to use it.

907
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:20,680
Right. But we can't let it go because then the bank could say, wait a minute, you didn't get the $10 million in collateral.

908
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:23,680
And that's the only thing that we would say as a housing authority.

909
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:26,680
And I'm Ramsey's not here to ask.

910
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:30,680
But my understanding is we need that 2 million as collateral.

911
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:36,680
We may never use it if we were to, if it was freed up, we could then use it for another project.

912
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:41,680
The projects are dictated by what true what the community needs.

913
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:45,680
We have never said we're not going to build farm labor housing.

914
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:51,680
And a farm labor could easily apply to one of our low income projects.

915
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:59,680
You're correct in that there's a long list of people in the 2, 3 year list before someone even.

916
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:05,680
And that's probably why people get the misimpression that they can't apply.

917
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:10,680
They can apply as long as they meet the criteria of low income housing.

918
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:15,680
At the Harvard place it was a partnership with mental, mental health.

919
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:21,680
So some of those are dictated to only go to people under mental health.

920
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:27,680
I think Markine was at the well where Kathy Long was involved in it and that's how we got some of the funding.

921
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:35,680
And so we've used different funding sources to get projects started and get projects completed.

922
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:37,680
I want to say what else is really.

923
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:40,680
And your board decides which projects to go for.

924
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:43,680
Ramsey has been the one that puts them together.

925
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:47,680
As I said, we've partnered with other nonprofits.

926
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:51,680
A few years ago, you saw a lot of nonprofits because there was a lot of nonprofits.

927
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:53,680
But money's available come into Santa Paul.

928
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:56,680
We didn't necessarily partner with a lot of them.

929
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:57,680
Some of our independent.

930
01:23:57,680 --> 01:23:58,680
There's one.

931
01:23:58,680 --> 01:23:59,680
At 622.

932
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:00,680
He's Maine.

933
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:01,680
That was not ours.

934
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:03,680
You've got the one next to DMV.

935
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:04,680
That's not ours.

936
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:09,680
Those are independent third party nonprofits.

937
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:11,680
They're after the same money.

938
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:14,680
The same money is that the farmly this group is after.

939
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:20,680
We're more than happy to compete with anybody because we have seen what the salaries are of those.

940
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:21,680
The administrators.

941
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:24,680
We've seen what the rentals that they're charging.

942
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:26,680
We're not anywhere near.

943
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:29,680
I mean, my commissioner, we get $50.

944
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:30,680
Okay.

945
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:31,680
All right.

946
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:33,680
So let me ask again another hypothetical question.

947
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:36,680
And then I'll obviously other people have questions.

948
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:40,680
If we were to absent the $2 million, which is.

949
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,680
Off the table for right now could come back on the table.

950
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:45,680
But off the table for right now.

951
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:51,680
If the city were to retain all of the in-loop fees.

952
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:57,680
Within the city within the city's budget for the purposes of low income housing.

953
01:24:57,680 --> 01:24:59,680
Your organization would continue on.

954
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:00,680
It's very way.

955
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:03,680
And you'd be just happy to come in and apply for some of that money.

956
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:04,680
Yes.

957
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:05,680
We would be more happy to come in.

958
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:08,680
More than happy to compete with anybody else.

959
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:10,680
It's going to ask for that money.

960
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:11,680
Okay.

961
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:12,680
And then the city would have.

962
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:15,680
We would ask for their financials, the same as ours.

963
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:17,680
And what they're going to charge for rent the same as ours.

964
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,680
To see who really is getting the best deal for the money.

965
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:23,680
Because I basically always hear, well, you're such a small organization.

966
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:26,680
You don't really get all the good funding and Sacramento.

967
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:27,680
I've been in Sacramento.

968
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:28,680
We get funding.

969
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:30,680
It's just whether you can leverage that.

970
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:31,680
Okay.

971
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:32,680
Who else?

972
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:34,680
Anybody else have a question for Rick?

973
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:35,680
Okay.

974
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:36,680
Or anybody's?

975
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:37,680
Martin?

976
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:38,680
Thank you.

977
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:39,680
Thank you.

978
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:40,680
Please take.

979
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:41,680
Just a guess.

980
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:43,680
Thanks.

981
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:44,680
Thank you, Mayor.

982
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:45,680
Yeah.

983
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:47,680
I'm so excited to have this before us tonight.

984
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:50,680
I mean, I've been asking for this to come back since we made that.

985
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:53,680
I'm going to use some strong language tonight.

986
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:56,680
That ill-fated decision back in June of 14.

987
01:25:56,680 --> 01:26:04,680
As you heard the housing trust commissioner, Riza, state that they didn't ask for this money.

988
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:08,680
You know, what I objected to that night and what the community objected to is that

989
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:14,680
this was basically forced down our throats, I'll say.

990
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:21,680
It was an outreach by people that are no longer here that made this offer to the authority.

991
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:25,680
They said, well, sure, we're not going to turn that money away.

992
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:29,680
It came unannounced to council meeting on the agenda.

993
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:31,680
And we made the decision that night.

994
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:35,680
I was so angry about that because I'll tell you why.

995
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:43,680
Because the history on this is that the Santa Paula House Farm Workers Committee, right,

996
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:49,680
attended since its inception way back, had been asking the city administration.

997
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:52,680
I don't even know if I think it may have even been with Wally.

998
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:53,680
I'm not quite sure.

999
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:54,680
It was, right?

1000
01:26:54,680 --> 01:27:00,680
You sent the first letter to Wally Bobcoyote saying, hey, we understand that this came as a part of the development agreement.

1001
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:06,680
We'd really like to be involved in the process of how this oversight committee has developed.

1002
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:08,680
That's all they're asking for.

1003
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:11,680
They weren't asking to be the decision makers.

1004
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:18,680
They just wanted to be a part of a transparent process that at the end of the day, whoever was chosen was chosen.

1005
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:21,680
So that's not what happened, unfortunately.

1006
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:27,680
And they made several attempts to contact the city with the following city manager and so forth.

1007
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:30,680
And it was just totally ignored.

1008
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:32,680
It was really, really unfortunate.

1009
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:37,680
I meant to preface my comments with, this is, by no way,

1010
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:41,680
or means a reflection of the housing authority, I think they do great work.

1011
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:43,680
I've been to many ribbon cuttings.

1012
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:48,680
And what you guys have been able to do with your blended creative funding is amazing commissioner.

1013
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:51,680
And I've told Ramsey that many of the ribbon cuttings.

1014
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:55,680
How you've been able to leverage state money and federal money to build a,

1015
01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:58,680
a thorny, metafact accounting, you know,

1016
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:04,680
Kristi Madden in that group that is the one that comes through with a funding to help out with some of the partner with you.

1017
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:10,680
Always looks to you as a leader in developing a fortabilding because how creative you are in leveraging it.

1018
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:13,680
So with that said, I really look at this as two issues.

1019
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:20,680
Really one is the housing authority issue, which is over that filter, the cracks with the city is in the past.

1020
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:24,680
Previous councils, some did a better job than others.

1021
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:25,680
We're charged with that now.

1022
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:32,680
Let's revisit that and let's see how we can bone that up better because I know it's really not too unlike, for example,

1023
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:36,680
what I do in my day job, the Pirate of Cemetery District, they're independent,

1024
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:41,680
Legislatively authorized independent quasi governmental agency yet,

1025
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:45,680
that their district supervisor appoints all their board members.

1026
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:47,680
Other than that, there's no per view whatsoever.

1027
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:52,680
But they do have bylaws who only do monitor that when they come for reappointment,

1028
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:56,680
and so it's not unusual that relationship.

1029
01:28:56,680 --> 01:29:00,680
But so that's one thing.

1030
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:05,680
And I think that's going to be a longer issue for us personally speaking.

1031
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:08,680
I think tonight the issue is in the fees.

1032
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:17,680
And looking at options to how we provide that money to be leveraged by affordable housing builders in our community,

1033
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:19,680
in our county, right?

1034
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:22,680
I mean, it could be housing authority.

1035
01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:24,680
It could be cabrio.

1036
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:29,680
It can be many number of other ones that have done work in Santa Paula.

1037
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:36,680
So I really think we need to focus on that for the interest of the Hindu fees dedicated to us

1038
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:38,680
by the Lehman era project.

1039
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:42,680
I mean, we're working on almost four years now that this decision was made.

1040
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:45,680
That money's going to start rolling in because if staff can remind me,

1041
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:51,680
I think that money doesn't start coming in until they get this certificate of occupancy

1042
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:55,680
as when they have to pay that 4,000 something per unit, right?

1043
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:59,680
Which means we don't currently have any in-row housing fees.

1044
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:11,000
Now that they're breaking ground, those certificates of occupancy are going to be requested within the next couple, maybe two years if we're lucky.

1045
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:26,000
Yeah, they're first occupancy permits should be ready. Just over a year from now, right? Just over a year from now.

1046
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:37,000
So it's just, all I was speaking to is that, you know, I realize the money is not there. It's right around the corner. We've wasted four years to get to this point. Let's be effective. Let's do it right. Let's do it transparently.

1047
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:48,000
Can I put you on the spot? Mr. Bronshweiger and ask you to put your mic of a question or two for your she's from the intercounty housing trust fund?

1048
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:53,000
Could you please state your name and address for the record?

1049
01:30:54,000 --> 01:31:00,000
So my name is Linda Bronshweiger, I'm the CEO for the Ventura County Housing Trust Fund, and I live in Camerillo, California.

1050
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:09,000
Thank you for being here. Yes, I'd like to put questions because I want, I mean, this is obviously an educational process for a lot of us, and so this purpose for my questioning.

1051
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:20,000
Can you give me in like a 30 second commercial? Because I know the city already participates by making a contribution to your trust fund? Could you give me the 30 second commercial? What you guys do please?

1052
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:34,000
So we are a county-wide nonprofit, separate nonprofit. We have a revolving loan fund that is made up of public, private, and charitable money that's all leveraged together for the development of affordable housing.

1053
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:44,000
So nonprofit or for profit developers come to us and seek free development, construction, or gap funding for new affordable housing.

1054
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:50,000
So for example, the housing authority for Santa Paula has approached us three times.

1055
01:31:50,000 --> 01:32:00,000
We funded their citrus grove loan for 300,000 that was in 2013, and they paid that off in 2016.

1056
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:09,000
And they also approached us for their Oakwood Court or Oak Court. That was in 2014 for $250,000.

1057
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:18,000
We were approached by them in 2017 with some challenges with paying that, and so we re-evaluated the loan.

1058
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:29,000
They paid $175,000 of the $250,000 loan with a remaining $75,000, which they now pay principal and interest monthly.

1059
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:35,000
And we are hoping that we will have final payment of that this summer in 2018.

1060
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:46,000
And then we also funded the citrus grove loan, which was funded in 2016 for 300,000, and that is expected to be fully paid in 2019.

1061
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:49,000
So it's a low interest loan or no interest loan.

1062
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:51,000
That's a below market interest rate.

1063
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:53,000
And usually it's at 4%.

1064
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:57,000
We did on this request for sort of an extension modification of the loan.

1065
01:32:57,000 --> 01:32:59,000
We now charge them 5%.

1066
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:02,000
Our loans are all supposed to be short term loans.

1067
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:04,000
So the money comes into the fund.

1068
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:05,000
We lend it out.

1069
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:08,000
Comes back in three to five years because back out again.

1070
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:11,000
That's the value of the leveraging that we have the ability to do.

1071
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:14,000
Do you know how much city?

1072
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:15,000
Yes.

1073
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:20,000
So the city of Santa Paula invested $50,000 in the very initial phase.

1074
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:28,000
We do have another request in for the city to consider partnering us with us again as all of the cities are being asked to do a second investment.

1075
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:31,000
We've already had the city of Camaroo step up with additional funds.

1076
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:37,000
But your city, I will say, has received the most in funding, particularly for that $50,000.

1077
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:38,000
That's great.

1078
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:39,000
And thank you.

1079
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:42,000
That's probably, unless anybody else any question.

1080
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:46,000
The reason I asked her to step up and I did not invite you, right?

1081
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:50,000
She just showed up and you show up at all the fortuitis.

1082
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:52,000
Maybe the fortival housing.

1083
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:55,000
That's a good thing because I think you guys do great work too.

1084
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:58,000
In terms of what the county wide trust fund does.

1085
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:03,000
And this is one example that I would hope that we would explore for administering those funds.

1086
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:08,000
Because one of the things that makes me a little nervous is like, okay, so that's a lot of money as it comes in

1087
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:16,000
and Michael's already challenged with the right amount of staff to do the work and provide the services that our city does now with the staff.

1088
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:21,000
And how do we, who and how do we administer this within the city?

1089
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:23,000
So that that should be explored too.

1090
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:32,000
All I'm saying is that there's other options out there that if we do bring back some options for us to consider the other 4 million as you said.

1091
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:39,000
We should look at all options including some like these that exist that have the staff already that leverage that money for projects.

1092
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:42,000
Not only in Santa Paula but county wide as well.

1093
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:43,000
Could I clarify one thing?

1094
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:44,000
Yeah.

1095
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:48,000
I think it was mentioned earlier about the 2 million from the East Area 1.

1096
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:57,000
When we reviewed all of these loans, there was no mention in their loan application about the use of those funds to pay off our loans.

1097
01:34:57,000 --> 01:35:03,000
And so when we do our underwriting, we use the sources that are listed in their application.

1098
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:08,000
And so from our purposes, we are not expecting those funds to be used to pay off our loan.

1099
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:10,000
That's not the way it was structured.

1100
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:17,000
And that's important to us because we knew those funds would not be coming until after our loans were due.

1101
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:19,000
So just to clarify.

1102
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:25,000
So you're saying basically there's probably 6 million in there as opposed to 4.

1103
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:29,000
And all I'm clarifying is is that when we reviewed our loans, we did not.

1104
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:31,000
That was not part of their application.

1105
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:34,000
We need their money was pre-development money.

1106
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:39,000
So ours, the 2 million is for the permanent loan.

1107
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:40,000
Okay.

1108
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:41,000
Got it.

1109
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:43,000
Just so you know, they're different funding sources.

1110
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:44,000
Very confusing.

1111
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:45,000
Thank you.

1112
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:46,000
Thank you.

1113
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:47,000
Appreciate it.

1114
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:50,000
Is there any other questions for John?

1115
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:52,000
Well, this is workshop, right?

1116
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:54,000
There's a lot to unpack here.

1117
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:59,000
I think the, at the heart of this was the unusual way in which this money was gifted.

1118
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:04,000
In a way, I mean, almost, I don't like to, maybe use the term gift of public funds.

1119
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:10,000
But also I want to say that housing authority did everything a good faith based on the way it was presented to them.

1120
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:12,000
To me, I just was very unusual.

1121
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:17,000
I'm using that as a diplomatic word is that usually these things go through a competitive process.

1122
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:21,000
When you have funds available, you put out a notice of funds available and no file.

1123
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:23,000
And then there's a competitive process.

1124
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:30,000
And I think another conundrum that I see is that if someone is going to be administering the funds that they,

1125
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:39,000
in most, seems to me, in most kind of governmental type arrangements, they would not be eligible for the funds.

1126
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:48,000
We need kind of a separate third party, whether it be us and our staff or I think James, I think in your presentation,

1127
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:52,000
you mentioned something about that was a possibility to have someone else administer it.

1128
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:54,000
But I mean, we can get into those, those weeds.

1129
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:57,000
But that's, to me, that was, that was another conundrum.

1130
01:36:57,000 --> 01:37:06,000
And basically it should be returned to, in my, in my view, be returned as a competitive process.

1131
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:10,000
And we have to, I think we have to kind of bifurcate what's going on here.

1132
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:16,000
We, what, the housing authority was originally doing the serve like the Section 8, was, is that what it was called.

1133
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:21,000
And that is, you know, should be of a free standing, almost committee.

1134
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:27,000
I understand that we could be a point of that structure of make sense that it's a separate kind of a separate entity.

1135
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:30,000
But I want to come to these funds that are coming in.

1136
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:33,000
And they're not really coming into the city and the sense of our budget.

1137
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:37,000
This is a separate fund that is, that is dedicated for this.

1138
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:39,000
It should be a competitive process.

1139
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:45,000
And I think the money should only be awarded and only makes sense of me is when we built up a certain amount.

1140
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:48,000
In other words, it gets to, you know, it's 2 million, 1 million.

1141
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:51,000
We put out a NOFA that, you know, just some funds available.

1142
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:53,000
So I think I've gone on enough about that.

1143
01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:56,000
But I'd like to hear any other comments.

1144
01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:58,000
I just, I think we just have to kind of separate things.

1145
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:04,000
And also, I think it's important that the housing authority, regardless of what comes out of this,

1146
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:08,000
should also be eligible for competing for this.

1147
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:09,000
This is what Rick was saying.

1148
01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:13,000
And that can't be the case if they are the ones that are also administering it.

1149
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:14,000
In my view.

1150
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:15,000
So.

1151
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:16,000
Are there a question?

1152
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:17,000
Jenny?

1153
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:18,000
I don't know if it's a question.

1154
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:20,000
So much comment at this point.

1155
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:21,000
Although, who knows?

1156
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:23,000
Maybe somewhere along the way they'll become a question.

1157
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:27,000
I mean, I think sort of echoing what has been said.

1158
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:33,000
I think the thing that I hear the most concern over from people that I've spoken to has been the process.

1159
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:41,000
For how the former resolution was created and the fact that I know even some more have been mentioned.

1160
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:48,000
I know habitat had also expressed interest directly to the city in being notified when the funds became available.

1161
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:59,000
So the fact that the funds were allocated before they were available was something that was concerning to a lot of different people.

1162
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:09,000
The other thing that I do think it was mentioned that we supposedly as a city get a copy of the annual report and I have not been seeing that.

1163
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:17,000
So if that is something that a copy of the city has or if we don't have if we can get another copy.

1164
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:27,000
Because I know I have not been receiving a copy of that annual report and so I don't know if that's something that we can give some direction to the manager to work with.

1165
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:38,000
We do get there monthly agendas right but that's different than an annual report with you know the financials and what they've done and what they've been doing and so I think on the last slide.

1166
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:52,000
There was something about that we could give some direction let's see to direct you get some directions to the manager to return to the council with a report and review of sort of what they've been doing and.

1167
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:55,000
That would be helpful I think.

1168
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:58,000
I agree as well as an RFP process.

1169
01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:02,000
I concur if you guys have any questions for what.

1170
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:05,000
I would love to see people bid.

1171
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:07,000
Okay.

1172
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:12,000
The issue that the good news here is there's no money.

1173
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:20,000
So we're arguing over some philosophical RFP because the and Richard wants to pay more.

1174
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:32,000
So there's no money here and nothing has been spent on anything other than there's two million dollars is basically set over here that we may or may not get back so basically nothing's been lost at this point.

1175
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:42,000
I think yeah it makes a lot of sense that we have a competitive open process when we actually have money to allocate and that's not here yet.

1176
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:47,000
So although before the money gets here we have to have.

1177
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:50,000
The process and the structure.

1178
01:40:50,000 --> 01:41:02,000
I'm getting there because that's what I think we need to do next is set up how we want to do that and when I think we need to come back with a better report or at least a fuller explanation.

1179
01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:10,000
It's clear now that these are really the functions of with the housing authority is doing is really separate from.

1180
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:23,000
The issue of the in loopies that we may choose to give to them or anybody else based on whatever kind of competitive rules we want to set up and ask the staff to come back with.

1181
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:34,000
Basically how we would set the process up for ourselves and a comprehensive report separately on what the housing authority is doing is that does that.

1182
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:39,000
Yes it's there are two separate issues.

1183
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:58,000
I was hoping that that was articulated in the staff report but we will we can come back with an annual report from the housing authority and we could come back with a resolution.

1184
01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:03,000
I mean there's we have a year to kind of put this together so.

1185
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:11,000
We can come back with a resolution that changes the way in which the in loop housing fees are administered or awarded if you will.

1186
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:17,000
Okay, let me make suggestion that you come back with a report on the housing authority.

1187
01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:25,000
What they do their annual report at the time you come back with a report on what terms are up and if people need to be.

1188
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:43,000
You know wish to be continue or what kind of process we have in terms of appointments for that so that it's lumped together over here and then separately you set up a process where we repeal the.

1189
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:56,000
That's out there and establish a new resolution that sets out a process that we will go through to allocate whatever in loop fees and we have money coming in from Williams homes and others.

1190
01:42:56,000 --> 01:43:11,000
It's not just Le Manera correct and we have some kind of a threshold in that report back from your staff that says when we'll allocate funds like johnson we we're not going to do it when we have $200,000 are we going to do it every time we have a million or whatever.

1191
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:21,000
So that staff comes back with some recommendations on how it would work and then how we would allocate it whether you have the capacity to do it in house.

1192
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:27,000
We've been on it and running that process or we need to have some other kind of.

1193
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:32,000
And we'll make sure there's separate items.

1194
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:33,000
Yes.

1195
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:37,000
And as part of the housing authority piece.

1196
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:50,000
If as part of that reporter in addition to that report there could be some specifics on how we got to the $2 million number so whether that's these are the loans that are outstanding that we.

1197
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:54,000
Thought that was going to go with or something so that it's not just.

1198
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:58,000
A magic number of two million but there's some justification for where that number comes from.

1199
01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:03,000
Yeah understood and I'll have those conversations with housing authority board in their style.

1200
01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:12,000
Okay and to completely separate two different time kinds of things is one's a clean process that we're going through for how we move forward as we go forward.

1201
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:18,000
And the other is just it's information on our working relationship with the housing authority.

1202
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:20,000
Is that.

1203
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:21,000
Makes sense.

1204
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:24,000
I have thoroughly confused all of you I know.

1205
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:32,000
Another component we talked about too was the funding source which you brought up and how how that works and how for instance the salaries are paid.

1206
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:38,000
And because I would like to know for sure I think they've been doing a great job by the way, you know,

1207
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:45,000
I was one of one of the councils that asked, hey, why can't the housing authority be more and you guys stepped up and did some great projects.

1208
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:54,000
But but also come back to let us know what our kind of like our legal exposure is in terms of projects that are done by them.

1209
01:44:54,000 --> 01:45:00,000
I'm not really clear even though we you know how independent they are of us if this is something.

1210
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:09,000
Anything that is actually, like, not a state mandate in type of commission, but kind of what the legal connection is.

1211
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:18,000
I'm not saying there's anything wrong, but we should know what our legal exposure liability is, or any, any anything they undertake.

1212
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:20,000
Anybody else?

1213
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:21,000
Yeah.

1214
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:25,000
So, yeah, and I think he just touched on part of it, so thank you.

1215
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:36,000
Because remember Parker was, you know, but what enacted them from what I understood from Dante's report was that they were enacted by some legislation back in 69 that created the housing authorities.

1216
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:44,000
But that would be a good piece to have, because it would certainly clarify our liability with regards to them and how independent they are.

1217
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:54,000
Also, you made a good point, Mayor, just recently, that I think, you know, whatever happens in the next resolution for how this is going to unfold with regards to these in lieu fees.

1218
01:45:54,000 --> 01:46:05,000
It shouldn't be specific to East area one, like this one, because council member crosslights, correct, there's other in lieu fees that are going to come in and we should have it all in companies for any in lieu fees that come to the city.

1219
01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:08,000
So, make it a little more broader.

1220
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:20,000
And, and I'm just going to say this for the record, because there's been a thorn that I've been carrying it on my side for four years, and sorry, you guys, but you weren't here battling those other four council members at night.

1221
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:29,000
About this, and that is, I would actually make a motion to rescind the current resolution until such time we have a new resolution for consideration.

1222
01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:35,000
Could you hold that? I mean, I will let you bring that back up, okay.

1223
01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:43,000
I'm going to break all the rules again and ask if there's anybody from the audience that has one another burning question or comment they want to make.

1224
01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:45,000
Get two of you.

1225
01:46:45,000 --> 01:46:47,000
Okay.

1226
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:49,000
It's a workshop.

1227
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:54,000
I know. I understand, and I don't have a problem with that, so as long as you guys don't, Alan.

1228
01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:56,000
Thank you.

1229
01:46:56,000 --> 01:47:03,000
I agree, it's wonderful that we don't have the money yet, so there's time to work this out and do it right.

1230
01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:12,000
But I was going to make the point that Martin made that I think for the housing authorities sake.

1231
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:28,000
There needs to be action taken soon to rescind the prior resolution, so that they know that they, it could be worded so that the $2,000 is still floating.

1232
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:35,000
But it's clear to you and to them that the rest of that money isn't.

1233
01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:41,000
That's necessarily going to come to them, because that's the way it is now.

1234
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:51,000
They still have every right to feel that all 6.5 million is going to be used in any way they decide.

1235
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:52,000
Okay.

1236
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:53,000
Rick.

1237
01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:56,000
I want things about that $4 million.

1238
01:47:56,000 --> 01:48:03,000
We are well aware that because I think somebody made a commitment that it was only the $2 million.

1239
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:04,000
That's right.

1240
01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:06,000
Prior City Council meeting.

1241
01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:11,000
We had another project at Red Road Avenue and 10th.

1242
01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:16,000
And we couldn't put it together unless we were to use some of that and we asked the project.

1243
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:21,000
We're not moving forward with any more money because we were uncertain about the $4 million.

1244
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:28,000
And we didn't want to commit because there is a, because there was a notation test that only the $2 million.

1245
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:31,000
I think we've mentioned that at the last council meeting.

1246
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:33,000
And that's why there was a project.

1247
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:43,000
We put together a 40-some unit project there at the old church there and we couldn't pencil it out without any more money.

1248
01:48:43,000 --> 01:48:46,000
So we can the project.

1249
01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:47,000
Thanks Rick.

1250
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:50,000
Laura.

1251
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:57,000
I would like to clarify for the council members that I served with in 1994 through 2002.

1252
01:48:57,000 --> 01:49:01,000
We did a point housing authority members during that time period.

1253
01:49:01,000 --> 01:49:04,000
And as all commissions, I don't know if it's changed.

1254
01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:08,000
But any of the city commissions it went to the city clerk's office.

1255
01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:12,000
They kept track of the dates of expiration.

1256
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:13,000
They put out notices.

1257
01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:15,000
That may have changed.

1258
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:16,000
I don't know.

1259
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:22,000
And then I would hope that you could further clarify about the $2 million.

1260
01:49:23,000 --> 01:49:32,000
Because I don't know what commitment was made when where is the documentation that this council said.

1261
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:37,000
You are free to use $2 million for collateral.

1262
01:49:37,000 --> 01:49:39,000
That's the part I don't understand.

1263
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:41,000
And then the third thing.

1264
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:47,000
Which I have almost, I think, my brain's right now.

1265
01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:50,000
Gosh.

1266
01:49:51,000 --> 01:49:54,000
Oh, as far as an annual report.

1267
01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:58,000
We all know what annual financial reports are.

1268
01:49:58,000 --> 01:50:02,000
But the last time Mr. Ramsey was here before you.

1269
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:07,000
He gave a verbal strategic plan for the year.

1270
01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:10,000
And it was about two seconds long.

1271
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:12,000
It was not written.

1272
01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:15,000
And I love Ramsey.

1273
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:17,000
But I'm sorry.

1274
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:22,000
That report said we are not doing farm worker housing.

1275
01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:24,000
We are not doing family housing.

1276
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:26,000
We are doing senior housing.

1277
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:29,000
And we are doing veterans housing.

1278
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:30,000
Those are the two.

1279
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:35,000
And we are doing five houses per year over the next five years.

1280
01:50:35,000 --> 01:50:37,000
So, thank you.

1281
01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:38,000
Thanks, Laura.

1282
01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:41,000
Okay.

1283
01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:44,000
One more.

1284
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:46,000
Just a quick point of clarification.

1285
01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:50,000
The reference of your affordable housing trust fund has been used here.

1286
01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:54,000
And I want to clarify that the cities may have a housing trust fund.

1287
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:56,000
And it's usually funded with the move fees.

1288
01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:59,000
Rarely do they go out and leverage those funds.

1289
01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:02,000
The difference with this one and why folks around the community.

1290
01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:05,000
Developed the county wide housing trust fund.

1291
01:51:05,000 --> 01:51:08,000
So, we have that ability to blend public five and in charitable.

1292
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:12,000
So, I just wanted to make sure you understood the two different housing trust fund models.

1293
01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:14,000
Ars is a nonprofit versus the city one.

1294
01:51:14,000 --> 01:51:15,000
Right.

1295
01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:21,000
And when and if we ever get any money, we will take applications that make a decision as to who and what we want to fund.

1296
01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:22,000
Yeah.

1297
01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:24,000
That was part of your education training.

1298
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:25,000
Thank you.

1299
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:26,000
Martin.

1300
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:27,000
So, yeah.

1301
01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:32,000
I just wanted to further support my anticipated motion to rescind the resolution.

1302
01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:35,000
At the last time Ranzi was here too.

1303
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:37,000
And he spoke about the committed two million dollars.

1304
01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:39,000
We asked him at that time.

1305
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:46,000
Then please provide us a portfolio with those anticipated leverage dollars so that we can consider that.

1306
01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:47,000
It wasn't promised.

1307
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:52,000
It was asked that was probably a year ago.

1308
01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:53,000
We haven't.

1309
01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:54,000
I've been asking for it.

1310
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:55,000
I haven't seen anything.

1311
01:51:55,000 --> 01:52:01,000
So, for me, sometimes it's easier for me to get the job done when I've got a little fire stop next to me.

1312
01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:08,000
So if we need to rescind this resolution order to get that commitment by the housing authority to provide that documentation.

1313
01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:14,000
So that in the future in the future resolution, if we decide to allocate five or ten percent,

1314
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:15,000
two thousand authority.

1315
01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:16,000
So be it.

1316
01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:19,000
I've not seen anything to quantify that.

1317
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:20,000
So I.

1318
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:27,000
Well, again, I'm going to attempt to make the motion to rescind resolution six eighty nine.

1319
01:52:27,000 --> 01:52:28,000
On that.

1320
01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:29,000
On that.

1321
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:31,000
On that point, I would like.

1322
01:52:31,000 --> 01:52:34,000
Mr. Isaac, you come back up and just clarify about the two million dollars.

1323
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:35,000
It's and how it came about that.

1324
01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:36,000
Just give us more insight.

1325
01:52:36,000 --> 01:52:38,000
Hold on a second order of business.

1326
01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:40,000
There's a motion on the table first.

1327
01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:43,000
We need a second question or to with all the motion.

1328
01:52:43,000 --> 01:52:45,000
I will second for discussion.

1329
01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:46,000
Thank you.

1330
01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:47,000
Good.

1331
01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:48,000
Vice Mayor.

1332
01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:50,000
More clarity on how the two million dollars was allocated.

1333
01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:53,000
Or that you felt that we could use that as collateral.

1334
01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:55,000
Just how we came to that point.

1335
01:52:56,000 --> 01:53:01,000
It was as the board understood Ramsey came to us and said there's a permit.

1336
01:53:01,000 --> 01:53:04,000
In order to get the permit alone, we want to start building this.

1337
01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:08,000
But we're not going to build it unless we know we can finish it out through a permit alone.

1338
01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:09,000
One of the banks.

1339
01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:11,000
We've used several different banks.

1340
01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:13,000
Said that we need collateral.

1341
01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:15,000
That's what I'm saying.

1342
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:17,000
That two million dollars is it's spent.

1343
01:53:17,000 --> 01:53:19,000
It's still going to be.

1344
01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:20,000
It may never be spent.

1345
01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:22,000
You might always have that two million dollars.

1346
01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:24,000
It just would be committed until the permit alone.

1347
01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:26,000
It's paid off.

1348
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:28,000
Or it reaches a point where they can refine.

1349
01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:30,000
We can refinance that permit alone.

1350
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:33,000
And not without the collateral in there.

1351
01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:36,000
So it's like it's.

1352
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:39,000
Like I said, if you're buying a home, you'd have to put 20% down.

1353
01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:41,000
And if you didn't have 20%.

1354
01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:45,000
You go to somebody and say, can I use your credit at 20%.

1355
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:48,000
Then the banks says, okay, with that person co-signing that.

1356
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:50,000
They're giving you that.

1357
01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:51,000
That's all that.

1358
01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:53,000
Two million was.

1359
01:53:53,000 --> 01:53:55,000
And I'm sure we can put together.

1360
01:53:55,000 --> 01:54:01,000
All it would be would put together where those loans for the various projects came to.

1361
01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:05,000
From where whenever we go to a project, it's all broken down by.

1362
01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:08,000
Reconstruction costs architectural costs.

1363
01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:13,000
And then ultimately with a total cost of the project is whether it's $4 million or

1364
01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:17,000
$6 million in our project and how we're going to get the permit alone at the end.

1365
01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:19,000
And on that, have you seen anything from Ramsey?

1366
01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:23,000
That's given it's been given to the commissioners that kind of lays out those numbers.

1367
01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:27,000
Over the many years, each time we go over a project, that is exactly what we do.

1368
01:54:27,000 --> 01:54:30,000
So that's readily available.

1369
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:31,000
It should be available.

1370
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:34,000
And it's $2 million just for which project.

1371
01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:36,000
I think it was on a couple projects.

1372
01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:38,000
I think it might be one of it might be Citricos.

1373
01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:40,000
And one of it might be the Oak.

1374
01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:42,000
I think it was recent.

1375
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:43,000
It wasn't.

1376
01:54:43,000 --> 01:54:47,000
I mean, it wasn't hard to place because it wasn't even available back then.

1377
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:51,000
So I'd like to ask a question of our attorney.

1378
01:54:51,000 --> 01:54:58,000
If we were to rescind this motion, which basically leaves the decision.

1379
01:54:58,000 --> 01:55:00,000
I assume with the council.

1380
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:06,000
Because rescinding the motion would basically take away the authority of the.

1381
01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:11,000
It just for us is just the commitment and it's not going to affect us in any way.

1382
01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:12,000
Okay.

1383
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:16,000
What I'm asking is just rescinding that motion doesn't remove the commitment.

1384
01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:20,000
We have to the housing authority for the use of that $2 million.

1385
01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:24,000
Does it?

1386
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:27,000
I would have to review the loan documents with regard to what they put up as collateral.

1387
01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:29,000
But I don't believe it would.

1388
01:55:29,000 --> 01:55:32,000
Nothing in the resolution details the $2 million bridge funder.

1389
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:33,000
You know.

1390
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:37,000
So it still be the responsibility of the city council to make the allocation.

1391
01:55:37,000 --> 01:55:38,000
That's correct.

1392
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:41,000
So that's correct.

1393
01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:45,000
And, and also, you know, the same when we did that two years ago.

1394
01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:46,000
It's like anything else.

1395
01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:48,000
Our finances have improved.

1396
01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:52,000
We may at some point be able to go back to that bank and say, look,

1397
01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:54,000
This is not now our current finances.

1398
01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:55,000
We now have.

1399
01:55:55,000 --> 01:55:58,000
Because Harvard place will be paid off.

1400
01:55:58,000 --> 01:56:03,000
We might be able to turn Harvard place as the collateral rather than the $2 million.

1401
01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:05,000
So those are things that's.

1402
01:56:05,000 --> 01:56:07,000
It's fluid with us.

1403
01:56:07,000 --> 01:56:08,000
It's not something that.

1404
01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:11,000
That we're very solvent.

1405
01:56:11,000 --> 01:56:14,000
We're not going to go bankrupt.

1406
01:56:14,000 --> 01:56:17,000
I think I think the interest.

1407
01:56:17,000 --> 01:56:19,000
Rick, at least from my perspective.

1408
01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:23,000
We don't necessarily want to do anything to jeopardize the projects that you're working on either.

1409
01:56:23,000 --> 01:56:25,000
So that's that would be my.

1410
01:56:25,000 --> 01:56:26,000
I don't know.

1411
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:27,000
I have it.

1412
01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:29,000
Like I said, I don't have anything in front of me right now.

1413
01:56:29,000 --> 01:56:32,000
And I didn't plan on being here.

1414
01:56:32,000 --> 01:56:36,000
But in discussing this knowing Ranzi, we discussed this thought.

1415
01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:38,000
We're going to be here several months ago.

1416
01:56:38,000 --> 01:56:41,000
And all he was concerned with was that commitment of the $2 million.

1417
01:56:41,000 --> 01:56:46,000
We knew we weren't going to try and come and commit to anything more than that.

1418
01:56:46,000 --> 01:56:48,000
And it was only.

1419
01:56:48,000 --> 01:56:51,000
Paperwork commitment at that point.

1420
01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:53,000
Mayor and council.

1421
01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:59,000
What I would suggest is that you direct staff to.

1422
01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:05,000
In fact, come back to the council with a thorough explanation.

1423
01:57:05,000 --> 01:57:10,000
Of the status of the housing authority projects as they relate to the two million.

1424
01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:13,000
And dollars that we've been discussing.

1425
01:57:13,000 --> 01:57:15,000
To come back with a resolution.

1426
01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:18,000
They're resins the existing resolution.

1427
01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:21,000
And that's not in your packet tonight.

1428
01:57:21,000 --> 01:57:30,000
But we could come back with something that would allow you to set up a different process for the inlue housing fees as a separate item.

1429
01:57:30,000 --> 01:57:35,000
I will in the meantime speak with Ranzi and the board.

1430
01:57:35,000 --> 01:57:43,000
And come back with a full report on essentially a business annual report of the authority.

1431
01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:49,000
But also address these other questions as I relate to the existing projects that they have financed.

1432
01:57:49,000 --> 01:57:54,000
And how that might be affected by the inlue housing fee money that we're talking to.

1433
01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:58,000
Would somebody care to make that as a substitute motion.

1434
01:57:58,000 --> 01:58:00,000
I think you read my mind.

1435
01:58:00,000 --> 01:58:07,000
Because I'm not even though I'm very much on board with not liking the original decision.

1436
01:58:07,000 --> 01:58:11,000
Resinning it without having something to supplanted that doesn't make sense to me.

1437
01:58:11,000 --> 01:58:14,000
I think that's what he's suggesting so that's.

1438
01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:16,000
And.

1439
01:58:16,000 --> 01:58:17,000
Okay.

1440
01:58:17,000 --> 01:58:24,000
And so I will make the substitute motion, which basically that you will come back with and it could restate please.

1441
01:58:24,000 --> 01:58:26,000
I don't know what you make.

1442
01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:37,000
I believe you are going to you're going to come back with the original resolution for us to look at and then serve a replacement resolution so that we can rescind one.

1443
01:58:37,000 --> 01:58:39,000
And explanation of the two million dollars.

1444
01:58:39,000 --> 01:58:40,000
Yes.

1445
01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:41,000
Yes.

1446
01:58:41,000 --> 01:58:42,000
As separate items.

1447
01:58:42,000 --> 01:58:43,000
And a whole lot more information.

1448
01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:45,000
So that's that's my.

1449
01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:46,000
That's my motion.

1450
01:58:46,000 --> 01:58:48,000
Does that mean clear enough?

1451
01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:53,000
Yeah, I mean what you you can direct staff tonight to come back with a resolution.

1452
01:58:53,000 --> 01:58:59,000
Resinning the existing one and explaining how you want to set up that in the housing fee process.

1453
01:58:59,000 --> 01:59:02,000
Okay, is there a second to that motion.

1454
01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:05,000
I'll second it.

1455
01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:08,000
So if you're open for comment.

1456
01:59:08,000 --> 01:59:09,000
Yes.

1457
01:59:09,000 --> 01:59:10,000
Before you again.

1458
01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:13,000
Change the course of what we're doing tonight.

1459
01:59:13,000 --> 01:59:17,000
With all due respect, you know nothing's been done.

1460
01:59:17,000 --> 01:59:19,000
We've asked Ramsey for this information in the past.

1461
01:59:19,000 --> 01:59:22,000
He is not provided it for us within a year.

1462
01:59:22,000 --> 01:59:25,000
If you recall, we asked him for the perform on the two million.

1463
01:59:25,000 --> 01:59:26,000
Leverage dollars.

1464
01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:28,000
He didn't come back to us.

1465
01:59:28,000 --> 01:59:33,000
So in the meantime, I don't see any harm with rescinding the resolution currently because we're not.

1466
01:59:33,000 --> 01:59:37,000
Only thing we're doing is we're leaving the door open for the leverage of money in the meantime.

1467
01:59:37,000 --> 01:59:40,000
To get some other loans.

1468
01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:43,000
So no harm, no file that puts it all back in our control.

1469
01:59:43,000 --> 01:59:46,000
We can start from square one.

1470
01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:48,000
I get that you're coming back with it.

1471
01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:51,000
You know, some kind of solution.

1472
01:59:51,000 --> 01:59:54,000
But, you know, it just doesn't make sense to me.

1473
01:59:54,000 --> 01:59:56,000
Well, and not support that.

1474
01:59:56,000 --> 01:59:57,000
Sorry.

1475
01:59:57,000 --> 01:59:59,000
We need to just get this off the table now.

1476
01:59:59,000 --> 02:00:00,000
And I'll do different.

1477
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:11,000
We're not asking ramsy to do this. We're asking our staff to come back with a resolution with the explanation of the money in a way that's clean and how it will work.

1478
02:00:11,000 --> 02:00:17,000
And I personally feel that our staff will come back at our next meeting with the information we've requested.

1479
02:00:17,000 --> 02:00:28,000
So I'm comfortable with having a resolution in front of me before I vote on something. I support doing this, but I'd rather have something that I can read. Any other comments?

1480
02:00:28,000 --> 02:00:35,000
Yeah, I think that now I'm getting thickheaded.

1481
02:00:35,000 --> 02:00:47,000
It seems to me that we need to, something of this importance, it would have been good first to have that resolution as part of the packet.

1482
02:00:47,000 --> 02:00:53,000
Some of this important, so the people knew it was a gender that it was a kind of a positive, I get that it's a related action.

1483
02:00:53,000 --> 02:01:01,000
But it's kind of a big deal. And for it not to be a gender is possible, you know, rescinding of that.

1484
02:01:01,000 --> 02:01:06,000
The public, there might be some people who are opposed to it, so.

1485
02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:08,000
Except that it is in the...

1486
02:01:08,000 --> 02:01:09,000
Okay.

1487
02:01:09,000 --> 02:01:10,000
Okay.

1488
02:01:10,000 --> 02:01:11,000
Just...

1489
02:01:11,000 --> 02:01:12,000
Oh, okay.

1490
02:01:12,000 --> 02:01:14,000
The resolution that was passed is in...

1491
02:01:14,000 --> 02:01:15,000
Yeah, okay.

1492
02:01:15,000 --> 02:01:16,000
But...

1493
02:01:16,000 --> 02:01:17,000
The existing one...

1494
02:01:17,000 --> 02:01:19,000
The existing one was in there, but I just...

1495
02:01:19,000 --> 02:01:22,000
The rescinding part, I just seems to me like was pretty pretty.

1496
02:01:22,000 --> 02:01:23,000
I mean, I think...

1497
02:01:23,000 --> 02:01:24,000
I think...

1498
02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:28,000
In some ways I agree with council member Hernandez, that it may be kind of academic.

1499
02:01:28,000 --> 02:01:29,000
But...

1500
02:01:29,000 --> 02:01:30,000
Okay.

1501
02:01:30,000 --> 02:01:33,000
Since we obviously have a difference of opinion here.

1502
02:01:33,000 --> 02:01:35,000
Let's ask for a roll call on this.

1503
02:01:35,000 --> 02:01:37,000
Unless there's a more discussion.

1504
02:01:37,000 --> 02:01:39,000
When it's being voted on first, you know, comes.

1505
02:01:39,000 --> 02:01:41,000
Oh, we have the substitute motion.

1506
02:01:41,000 --> 02:01:42,000
Right, Mayor Crosse.

1507
02:01:42,000 --> 02:01:43,000
Mayor...

1508
02:01:44,000 --> 02:01:46,000
We need to make sure we know what we're voting on.

1509
02:01:46,000 --> 02:01:47,000
We...

1510
02:01:47,000 --> 02:01:51,000
We have a motion by council member Hernandez and second by...

1511
02:01:51,000 --> 02:01:53,000
By council member Crosse White.

1512
02:01:53,000 --> 02:01:55,000
To be seen the current resolution.

1513
02:01:55,000 --> 02:01:57,000
Did that motion fail?

1514
02:01:57,000 --> 02:01:58,000
No.

1515
02:01:58,000 --> 02:01:59,000
We have the substitute motion, Mayor.

1516
02:01:59,000 --> 02:02:00,000
We have the substitute motion.

1517
02:02:00,000 --> 02:02:02,000
So we need to be voting on the substitute motion.

1518
02:02:02,000 --> 02:02:03,000
Is that correct?

1519
02:02:03,000 --> 02:02:04,000
Yeah.

1520
02:02:04,000 --> 02:02:06,000
And the substitute motion is to have...

1521
02:02:06,000 --> 02:02:08,000
Have the city manager come back?

1522
02:02:08,000 --> 02:02:09,000
To come back...

1523
02:02:09,000 --> 02:02:10,000
To council with the...

1524
02:02:10,000 --> 02:02:14,000
With the throw explanation, the status of housing authority projects as it relates to the...

1525
02:02:14,000 --> 02:02:20,000
To the $2 million and to come back with the resolution to set up a different process as two separate items.

1526
02:02:20,000 --> 02:02:21,000
Correct.

1527
02:02:21,000 --> 02:02:22,000
So he'll be coming back.

1528
02:02:22,000 --> 02:02:23,000
Right.

1529
02:02:23,000 --> 02:02:24,000
That's the substitute motion.

1530
02:02:24,000 --> 02:02:28,000
For him to come back with the information and a new resolution setting up a new process.

1531
02:02:28,000 --> 02:02:29,000
Right.

1532
02:02:29,000 --> 02:02:31,000
And I heard you say a little at the next meeting.

1533
02:02:31,000 --> 02:02:32,000
I'd like to have that.

1534
02:02:32,000 --> 02:02:34,000
I'd like to have that at the next meeting.

1535
02:02:34,000 --> 02:02:35,000
Otherwise, I'm sorry.

1536
02:02:35,000 --> 02:02:36,000
I just...

1537
02:02:36,000 --> 02:02:37,000
This thing has a way of dragging.

1538
02:02:37,000 --> 02:02:38,000
I'm sorry.

1539
02:02:38,000 --> 02:02:39,000
I'm sorry.

1540
02:02:39,000 --> 02:02:40,000
I'm...

1541
02:02:40,000 --> 02:02:41,000
At the next meeting.

1542
02:02:41,000 --> 02:02:42,000
Right.

1543
02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:43,000
All right.

1544
02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:44,000
To that in two weeks, yeah.

1545
02:02:44,000 --> 02:02:45,000
Okay.

1546
02:02:45,000 --> 02:02:46,000
All right.

1547
02:02:46,000 --> 02:03:00,000
So the motion is on the substitute motion and we're asking for approval of the substitute motion.

1548
02:03:00,000 --> 02:03:01,000
Right.

1549
02:03:01,000 --> 02:03:02,000
Okay.

1550
02:03:02,000 --> 02:03:03,000
We're all called.

1551
02:03:04,000 --> 02:03:05,000
Council Member Crossweight?

1552
02:03:05,000 --> 02:03:06,000
Yes.

1553
02:03:06,000 --> 02:03:07,000
Council Member Hernandez?

1554
02:03:07,000 --> 02:03:08,000
No.

1555
02:03:08,000 --> 02:03:09,000
Council Member Proctor?

1556
02:03:09,000 --> 02:03:10,000
Yes.

1557
02:03:10,000 --> 02:03:11,000
Vice Mayor Garmin?

1558
02:03:11,000 --> 02:03:12,000
Yes.

1559
02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:13,000
Mayor Gerardy?

1560
02:03:13,000 --> 02:03:14,000
Yes.

1561
02:03:14,000 --> 02:03:15,000
Okay.

1562
02:03:15,000 --> 02:03:17,000
Now, do we have to vote on the thing again?

1563
02:03:17,000 --> 02:03:18,000
No.

1564
02:03:18,000 --> 02:03:19,000
No.

1565
02:03:19,000 --> 02:03:20,000
That would be...

1566
02:03:20,000 --> 02:03:21,000
Okay.

1567
02:03:21,000 --> 02:03:22,000
So it's done.

1568
02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:23,000
Sure.

1569
02:03:23,000 --> 02:03:24,000
Okay.

1570
02:03:24,000 --> 02:03:32,000
I'd like to let Ellen have one last say since we're doing this very informally tonight.

1571
02:03:32,000 --> 02:03:39,000
I certainly didn't intend to keep talking.

1572
02:03:39,000 --> 02:03:47,000
I think there's one more thing that you need to have staff come back to you with.

1573
02:03:47,000 --> 02:03:56,000
And that's the resolution that originally created the Santa Paula housing trust fund, affordable housing trust fund.

1574
02:03:56,000 --> 02:04:01,000
I believe that was put in place when Wally was city manager.

1575
02:04:01,000 --> 02:04:10,000
And my recollection is that it makes city manager the decision maker on how the in-loop funds are spent.

1576
02:04:10,000 --> 02:04:15,000
And it doesn't have very much detail at all about the process.

1577
02:04:15,000 --> 02:04:17,000
So that is something that the...

1578
02:04:17,000 --> 02:04:20,000
That's what we're going to be coming back with at the next meeting.

1579
02:04:20,000 --> 02:04:23,000
The revised resolution that we've provided the process.

1580
02:04:23,000 --> 02:04:24,000
This doesn't have...

1581
02:04:24,000 --> 02:04:26,000
This is something separate.

1582
02:04:26,000 --> 02:04:27,000
I believe.

1583
02:04:27,000 --> 02:04:33,000
This is how the city's trust fund operates.

1584
02:04:33,000 --> 02:04:36,000
Well that's what we're talking about.

1585
02:04:36,000 --> 02:04:38,000
It will all be in the same resolution.

1586
02:04:38,000 --> 02:04:42,000
I think you're referring to the municipal code and it designates the city manager or the city manager.

1587
02:04:42,000 --> 02:04:45,000
It doesn't mean to administer the affordable housing trust fund.

1588
02:04:45,000 --> 02:04:47,000
And I think the council's going to be taking a look at all this.

1589
02:04:47,000 --> 02:04:50,000
So that's going to be all part of the package.

1590
02:04:50,000 --> 02:04:51,000
Wonderful.

1591
02:04:51,000 --> 02:04:52,000
Sorry.

1592
02:04:52,000 --> 02:04:53,000
I missed that.

1593
02:04:53,000 --> 02:04:54,000
That's okay.

1594
02:04:54,000 --> 02:04:55,000
Thank you, Ellen.

1595
02:04:55,000 --> 02:05:05,000
Well I think... I think the housing trust fund was actually created in partnership with the inclusionary housing ordinance.

1596
02:05:05,000 --> 02:05:06,000
If I remember.

1597
02:05:06,000 --> 02:05:07,000
Yeah.

1598
02:05:07,000 --> 02:05:08,000
It was part of the deal.

1599
02:05:08,000 --> 02:05:14,000
So I don't know if there was a lot of a lot in that original ordinance in terms of how it's administered.

1600
02:05:14,000 --> 02:05:15,000
So.

1601
02:05:15,000 --> 02:05:16,000
Yeah.

1602
02:05:16,000 --> 02:05:23,000
I certainly don't want the authority to handle this amount of money that should be a council decision.

1603
02:05:23,000 --> 02:05:24,000
Okay.

1604
02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:27,000
So we have one more item on our agenda.

1605
02:05:27,000 --> 02:05:28,000
Maybe two.

1606
02:05:28,000 --> 02:05:31,000
And that would be.

1607
02:05:31,000 --> 02:05:33,000
The item.

1608
02:05:33,000 --> 02:05:36,000
Accepting the creation of an ad hoc committee.

1609
02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:40,000
Regarding the availability of broadband internet and technology within the city of Santa

1610
02:05:40,000 --> 02:05:41,000
Fallon.

1611
02:05:41,000 --> 02:05:44,000
And we need a staff report.

1612
02:05:44,000 --> 02:05:50,000
And I have not asked to see if there's any interest from anybody on the council and serving on that.

1613
02:05:50,000 --> 02:05:51,000
So.

1614
02:05:51,000 --> 02:05:52,000
Are you doing this?

1615
02:05:52,000 --> 02:05:53,000
Yes.

1616
02:05:53,000 --> 02:05:54,000
Okay.

1617
02:05:54,000 --> 02:05:55,000
Please.

1618
02:05:55,000 --> 02:05:56,000
Good evening.

1619
02:05:56,000 --> 02:05:57,000
Mayor Durati in council.

1620
02:05:57,000 --> 02:05:59,000
Economy, Donald Bell, assistant city manager.

1621
02:05:59,000 --> 02:06:03,000
What you have before you today is a recommendation.

1622
02:06:03,000 --> 02:06:10,000
For the formation of the broadband and technology ad hoc committee.

1623
02:06:10,000 --> 02:06:11,000
To appoint two council members.

1624
02:06:11,000 --> 02:06:18,000
To help staff as we look into strategic partnerships with internet service providers.

1625
02:06:18,000 --> 02:06:22,000
To help see if there's a way to bring in a healthy level of competition for internet services

1626
02:06:22,000 --> 02:06:23,000
here.

1627
02:06:23,000 --> 02:06:25,000
So we can add enhanced speeds.

1628
02:06:25,000 --> 02:06:29,000
And see if we can get strategic with certain technologies.

1629
02:06:29,000 --> 02:06:36,000
With fiber, with broadband wireless broadband as well.

1630
02:06:36,000 --> 02:06:41,000
So again, this is just looking for council.

1631
02:06:41,000 --> 02:06:46,000
It would be great to have ad hoc subcommittee as we're meeting with these companies.

1632
02:06:46,000 --> 02:06:51,000
So that we can have that direction and guidance from elected officials.

1633
02:06:51,000 --> 02:06:54,000
And that is our recommendation.

1634
02:06:54,000 --> 02:06:55,000
Okay.

1635
02:06:55,000 --> 02:06:56,000
Thank you.

1636
02:06:56,000 --> 02:06:57,000
Is there anybody that's interested in serving on that?

1637
02:06:57,000 --> 02:06:58,000
I have great interest in it.

1638
02:06:58,000 --> 02:07:00,000
Any questions?

1639
02:07:00,000 --> 02:07:01,000
Okay.

1640
02:07:01,000 --> 02:07:02,000
Unless there's any objection.

1641
02:07:02,000 --> 02:07:04,000
I will appoint John and Clint.

1642
02:07:04,000 --> 02:07:05,000
Just do that.

1643
02:07:05,000 --> 02:07:06,000
Good evening.

1644
02:07:06,000 --> 02:07:08,000
Do we have a motion for people?

1645
02:07:08,000 --> 02:07:09,000
I think the point of order.

1646
02:07:09,000 --> 02:07:11,000
I think the ad hoc is actually appointed by the council.

1647
02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:12,000
Right.

1648
02:07:12,000 --> 02:07:14,000
It's not a large standing committee.

1649
02:07:14,000 --> 02:07:15,000
Sorry.

1650
02:07:15,000 --> 02:07:18,000
So then we have a motion to appoint.

1651
02:07:18,000 --> 02:07:19,000
Okay.

1652
02:07:25,000 --> 02:07:27,000
There's our resolution.

1653
02:07:27,000 --> 02:07:29,000
I didn't see one.

1654
02:07:29,000 --> 02:07:30,000
Okay.

1655
02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:33,000
I'll move to a doctor resolution to create E ad hoc committee.

1656
02:07:33,000 --> 02:07:35,000
I'll second.

1657
02:07:35,000 --> 02:07:36,000
All those in favor?

1658
02:07:36,000 --> 02:07:37,000
Aye.

1659
02:07:37,000 --> 02:07:38,000
Post.

1660
02:07:38,000 --> 02:07:39,000
Okay.

1661
02:07:39,000 --> 02:07:43,000
Can I have somebody make a resolution to appoint councilman

1662
02:07:43,000 --> 02:07:46,000
Proctor and vice mayor Garmin to the committee?

1663
02:07:46,000 --> 02:07:47,000
Sir.

1664
02:07:47,000 --> 02:07:48,000
Second.

1665
02:07:48,000 --> 02:07:49,000
All second.

1666
02:07:49,000 --> 02:07:51,000
All those in favor?

1667
02:07:51,000 --> 02:07:52,000
Aye.

1668
02:07:52,000 --> 02:07:53,000
Aye.

1669
02:07:53,000 --> 02:07:54,000
Post.

1670
02:07:54,000 --> 02:07:55,000
Okay.

1671
02:07:55,000 --> 02:07:59,000
We're done.

1672
02:07:59,000 --> 02:08:03,000
So we are up to the part of the agenda that is.

1673
02:08:03,000 --> 02:08:06,000
Item for future agendas.

1674
02:08:06,000 --> 02:08:11,000
And I would like to say that I thought the comments that Rose

1675
02:08:11,000 --> 02:08:17,000
Chacong made earlier regarding having some sort of a senior fair or program.

1676
02:08:17,000 --> 02:08:22,000
We're and the issues that she brought up were a great interest.

1677
02:08:22,000 --> 02:08:26,000
A number of cities have these sorts of things.

1678
02:08:26,000 --> 02:08:30,000
And I think it would be something that I'd like to ask the staff to look into to come back

1679
02:08:30,000 --> 02:08:36,000
to see if we could do something for this city, which I think would benefit.

1680
02:08:36,000 --> 02:08:40,000
A lot of people want one of the other calls that I got earlier today was from somebody

1681
02:08:40,000 --> 02:08:45,000
who was a senior on a low-income situation.

1682
02:08:45,000 --> 02:08:51,000
Who was asking to see whether the city had any kind of program to have some kind of low-income

1683
02:08:51,000 --> 02:08:55,000
source of reducing your cable bill.

1684
02:08:55,000 --> 02:09:01,000
And I don't know if that's something that would also be considered because people can't really watch TV

1685
02:09:01,000 --> 02:09:03,000
if they can't pay the cable bill.

1686
02:09:03,000 --> 02:09:07,000
So that might be something else that you'd want to throw into that next.

1687
02:09:07,000 --> 02:09:13,000
I think we have a lot of seniors in the community and we have a great idea to have some sort of fair that was put together.

1688
02:09:13,000 --> 02:09:21,000
And I think maybe we could ask Rose if she'd like to participate in that and then get with our senior coordinator to see what could be done

1689
02:09:21,000 --> 02:09:22,000
and when we might be able to do it.

1690
02:09:22,000 --> 02:09:32,000
Anyway, that would be my suggestion or request of the staff come back with some details on it at a later date.

1691
02:09:32,000 --> 02:09:37,000
Well, that could be considered a senior summit of some sort of summit.

1692
02:09:37,000 --> 02:09:41,000
And there have been like Linda Parks runs every year.

1693
02:09:41,000 --> 02:09:45,000
I don't know that we've ever had one in Santa Paula or certainly not recently.

1694
02:09:45,000 --> 02:09:47,000
And there is a lot of information.

1695
02:09:47,000 --> 02:09:55,000
It was clear I gave a presentation at the hospice that a lot of people don't even know about the programs that we have available at the senior center.

1696
02:09:55,000 --> 02:10:00,000
So there's a lot of information that we could help to get out to the public.

1697
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:04,000
So I think I thought it was a really good idea glad that she brought it to us.

1698
02:10:04,000 --> 02:10:09,000
And I'd like to see us take advantage of it not with standing that I'm a senior.

1699
02:10:09,000 --> 02:10:11,000
Go from there.

1700
02:10:11,000 --> 02:10:14,000
So anybody else was a future agenda?

1701
02:10:14,000 --> 02:10:16,000
I was a motion for a future item.

1702
02:10:16,000 --> 02:10:17,000
Yes.

1703
02:10:17,000 --> 02:10:18,000
That's a motion for a future item.

1704
02:10:18,000 --> 02:10:19,000
We have a second.

1705
02:10:19,000 --> 02:10:20,000
Thank you.

1706
02:10:20,000 --> 02:10:29,000
As seniors, to ask the staff to come back, putting on or for a senior summit in Santa Paula.

1707
02:10:29,000 --> 02:10:33,000
Whatever is required to do that.

1708
02:10:33,000 --> 02:10:34,000
Right.

1709
02:10:34,000 --> 02:10:35,000
Yeah.

1710
02:10:35,000 --> 02:10:37,000
Is there any objection?

1711
02:10:37,000 --> 02:10:38,000
Okay.

1712
02:10:38,000 --> 02:10:39,000
Jenny.

1713
02:10:39,000 --> 02:10:43,000
And I think it is coming back, but just to formally.

1714
02:10:43,000 --> 02:10:48,000
I mentioned that I'd like the discussion of the economic development of some committee.

1715
02:10:48,000 --> 02:10:50,000
That'll be on the next agenda.

1716
02:10:50,000 --> 02:10:56,000
I also have a study session on the general plan update process.

1717
02:10:57,000 --> 02:11:01,000
And a discussion on some recommended changes to the general plan.

1718
02:11:01,000 --> 02:11:03,000
So I'll get that to the council.

1719
02:11:03,000 --> 02:11:05,000
Well, before the next meeting.

1720
02:11:05,000 --> 02:11:06,000
Great.

1721
02:11:06,000 --> 02:11:07,000
Anything else?

1722
02:11:07,000 --> 02:11:08,000
Yeah.

1723
02:11:08,000 --> 02:11:14,000
I think following on roses comments that we should bring back the idea of some kind of senior commission or whatever.

1724
02:11:14,000 --> 02:11:16,000
We have a discussion of that senior advisor.

1725
02:11:16,000 --> 02:11:19,000
You see there's an advisory commissioner.

1726
02:11:19,000 --> 02:11:20,000
Okay.

1727
02:11:20,000 --> 02:11:22,000
I don't have a problem with that either.

1728
02:11:22,000 --> 02:11:24,000
Okay.

1729
02:11:24,000 --> 02:11:25,000
Make it so.

1730
02:11:25,000 --> 02:11:26,000
Okay.

1731
02:11:26,000 --> 02:11:27,000
Is that a motion?

1732
02:11:27,000 --> 02:11:28,000
That's a motion.

1733
02:11:28,000 --> 02:11:29,000
Is that a second?

1734
02:11:29,000 --> 02:11:30,000
Any objection?

1735
02:11:30,000 --> 02:11:31,000
Okay.

1736
02:11:31,000 --> 02:11:33,000
All right.

1737
02:11:33,000 --> 02:11:35,000
Anything else?

1738
02:11:35,000 --> 02:11:37,000
Maybe that's something.

1739
02:11:37,000 --> 02:11:38,000
Okay.

1740
02:11:38,000 --> 02:11:40,000
Give it my behavior tonight.

1741
02:11:40,000 --> 02:11:41,000
I probably needed today.

1742
02:11:41,000 --> 02:11:42,000
Okay.

1743
02:11:42,000 --> 02:11:44,000
In that case we are adjourned.

1744
02:11:55,000 --> 02:11:57,000
Thank you.