1 00:00:01,620 --> 00:00:05,680 Marko, our commissioner, banks, would you lead us in the pledge of allegiance? 2 00:00:12,670 --> 00:00:25,230 In addition to the flag of United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation of the God in the physical with liberty and justice for all. 3 00:00:34,790 --> 00:00:38,010 I have a roll call, please. Commissioner Banks? 4 00:00:38,630 --> 00:00:38,910 President. 5 00:00:39,430 --> 00:00:40,130 Commissioner McPhail? 6 00:00:40,390 --> 00:00:40,710 President. 7 00:00:41,230 --> 00:00:42,050 Vice Chairman Robinson? 8 00:00:42,590 --> 00:00:42,830 President? 9 00:00:43,410 --> 00:00:43,950 Chairman Eckerd? 10 00:00:44,410 --> 00:00:45,010 Here. 11 00:00:45,010 --> 00:00:46,830 And Commissioner Summary is absent. 12 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:53,960 And the agenda we have before us is at our final agenda, Mr. Planning Director. 13 00:00:54,750 --> 00:00:55,800 Yes, it is, it's complete. 14 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:03,440 But okay, at this time, if there's something that the audience wants to talk about that's not on our agenda, 15 00:01:04,060 --> 00:01:09,460 you can submit a request to do so, we may or may not entertain it. 16 00:01:09,460 --> 00:01:17,160 If you do, you have to fill out a form, put on your name and address, and then we'll consider it. 17 00:01:19,050 --> 00:01:26,250 Also, at this time, I'd like everybody to turn their phones off or put them on silent, so we're not interrupted during the meeting. 18 00:01:28,370 --> 00:01:33,050 Under the consent calendar, one item on there, 19 00:01:38,710 --> 00:01:39,970 just to prove the minutes of submitted, 20 00:01:42,420 --> 00:01:42,980 have a motion. 21 00:01:44,610 --> 00:01:52,570 second one favor before a vote is taken out I just observed that I think 22 00:01:52,570 --> 00:01:57,350 Commissioner Robinson was absent was absent last meeting and Commission 23 00:01:57,350 --> 00:02:06,510 Macphale came late did not participate in the first item and so technical here 24 00:02:06,510 --> 00:02:12,250 right so I guess for christian mcphalia and then we get and then maybe we 25 00:02:12,250 --> 00:02:18,670 ought to save this till later I don't want to I don't want to yeah I don't 26 00:02:18,670 --> 00:02:24,550 want to prove or disprove you know a partial so I guess I think 27 00:02:24,550 --> 00:02:28,530 commission mcphill can can vote on the part that he participated in that the 28 00:02:28,530 --> 00:02:35,790 minutes for item I think it's B and after you can vote favor that and then 29 00:02:37,130 --> 00:02:44,110 But that only gives us really two folks to vote on those first two items. 30 00:02:44,150 --> 00:02:44,710 That's right. 31 00:02:44,970 --> 00:02:45,750 And that's not a majority. 32 00:02:47,090 --> 00:02:50,070 But it's Michael gone now. 33 00:02:50,850 --> 00:02:51,050 Yep. 34 00:02:51,490 --> 00:02:56,990 So that the point's kind of moved on that we don't have the opportunity to do that. 35 00:03:00,920 --> 00:03:06,600 He's not going to be at a meeting, so you think he's going to be here for another couple 36 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:07,000 months? 37 00:03:10,920 --> 00:03:23,820 Let's then, yeah, well, let's just table these minutes until we have a proper majority 38 00:03:24,260 --> 00:03:25,500 to vote on. 39 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:26,760 All right. 40 00:03:28,460 --> 00:03:28,740 Good. 41 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,860 That's how we start out this meeting tonight with a little controversy. 42 00:03:33,740 --> 00:03:36,720 Next item, public hearing. 43 00:03:37,940 --> 00:03:45,210 We have a verification of notice for this public hearing tonight. 44 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:49,920 Yes, properly noticed. 45 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:50,840 All right. 46 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,900 Are there any declarations of conflicts from commissioners? 47 00:03:57,340 --> 00:03:58,920 Any exparte contacts? 48 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:00,620 None? 49 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:01,800 All right. 50 00:04:02,660 --> 00:04:03,800 We'll open the public hearing. 51 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:14,360 Okay, and we'll hear who's going to present tonight on the 17 CDP 05 Wabagrill. 52 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,060 On our royal, our staff person will make the presentation. 53 00:04:18,700 --> 00:04:19,080 Excellent, 54 00:04:21,310 --> 00:04:21,710 proceed. 55 00:04:23,840 --> 00:04:27,180 Good evening everyone, it's nice to be back, they don't let me out much. 56 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:33,100 So it's a pleasure to present this project tonight. 57 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:40,700 It's an addition to Santa Paula, another place to go eat, so I'm hoping that I didn't get 58 00:04:40,700 --> 00:04:44,440 any calls or any questions, so I'm hoping I can make this as brief as possible. 59 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:56,940 So the project before you is a request for a conditional use permit to allow a fast-food 60 00:04:56,940 --> 00:05:05,500 restaurant, which Wabagra would be considered fast food since it's not silverware plates 61 00:05:05,500 --> 00:05:09,860 that you wash. It's disposable and that's how we define it. It's described in your staff report. 62 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:17,400 The project also includes design review, a minor modification to reduce the required parking. 63 00:05:22,890 --> 00:05:29,810 This is the existing site. Actually, it's the proposed site plan and there's a vicinity map that shows, 64 00:05:30,150 --> 00:05:37,610 you know, Harvard Boulevard. The project consists of two detached buildings. 65 00:05:39,530 --> 00:05:42,890 the existing liquor store and the vacant building. 66 00:05:44,490 --> 00:05:47,890 The liquor store is many of you know it is Jones's liquor. 67 00:05:49,230 --> 00:05:53,910 The other was previously occupied many, many years ago by a bar. 68 00:05:54,430 --> 00:06:00,380 I believe everybody knew it as, oh gosh, I should know the name of the bar. 69 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,260 I never went, but it was, anybody remember the name of the bar? 70 00:06:04,840 --> 00:06:05,320 San Chose? 71 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,780 And then it was Rizzo's for a few years. 72 00:06:08,780 --> 00:06:10,200 I think back in 2011. 73 00:06:13,090 --> 00:06:17,430 These are photographs of the existing bar which would be 74 00:06:17,430 --> 00:06:28,520 Wabagrill. There's the front, a side view, the back, another side. Here's a, my 75 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:35,900 glasses on it would help. You can see Jonesy's liquor and additional photos of the 76 00:06:35,900 --> 00:06:43,430 site and more shows the driveway that leads to the back, 77 00:06:45,610 --> 00:06:50,010 to the parking lot, the zoning 78 00:06:50,010 --> 00:07:00,070 is commercial to the northwest east is commercial, the site though is, which is very different 79 00:07:00,070 --> 00:07:06,770 from other locations, there's residential all around it, there's single family to the 80 00:07:06,770 --> 00:07:14,650 north across the street apartments to the west and east and south and for the back there's 81 00:07:14,650 --> 00:07:21,330 a mobile home park so this will provide additional eating you know from walking distance to many 82 00:07:21,330 --> 00:07:33,890 people moving along so back to the site the project includes improvements to the parking lot and 83 00:07:33,890 --> 00:07:40,090 When you trash enclosure would be built in the back, accessible handicapped parking 84 00:07:40,090 --> 00:07:44,530 in the back and the front, 29 parking spaces, 85 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,980 and obviously there's interior improvements 86 00:07:50,980 --> 00:07:56,760 which includes the seating area in the front, the side, and entrance from the back and 87 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:01,560 the front, the kitchen area, and the walking cooler area. 88 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:02,620 This 89 00:08:05,660 --> 00:08:14,680 is the proposed elevation which the applicant brought to my attention last week that they 90 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:20,220 are doing some additional changes and the architect will come forward and describe some of those changes. 91 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:31,380 But in the packet that you have before you, the proposed changes just include removal of some lava rock in the front 92 00:08:31,380 --> 00:08:37,860 and adding windows and some metal screening of the roof mounted equipment and 93 00:08:37,860 --> 00:08:46,900 just painting the existing block with a dark tan color and a lighter beige tones 94 00:08:46,900 --> 00:08:48,300 at the top. 95 00:08:50,710 --> 00:08:57,830 The application also includes new signage at the front and I believe 96 00:08:57,830 --> 00:09:01,350 This photo shows it a little bit better here. 97 00:09:04,190 --> 00:09:11,630 So a wall sign, a directional sign for parking in the rear, and a phase change to the pole 98 00:09:11,630 --> 00:09:12,010 sign. 99 00:09:13,450 --> 00:09:22,490 In the staff report, we're recommending that they revise the sign area to include the parking 100 00:09:22,490 --> 00:09:24,350 in the rear within the sign area. 101 00:09:24,350 --> 00:09:34,650 that they have more than what just typically allowed for pull signs and adding additional 102 00:09:34,650 --> 00:09:37,350 is really not supported by staff. 103 00:09:38,350 --> 00:09:48,260 However, commission may approve it as proposed or agree with staff and revise the sign. 104 00:09:48,260 --> 00:09:49,260 In 105 00:09:52,170 --> 00:10:00,230 the staff report, I go into a detail of how the project meets the general plan, goals, 106 00:10:00,430 --> 00:10:07,310 policies, and how it meets most of the development code requirements with the exception of the 107 00:10:07,310 --> 00:10:07,710 parking. 108 00:10:08,490 --> 00:10:16,350 As described in the parking analysis, the engineer indicates that peak time, they only 109 00:10:16,350 --> 00:10:26,690 need 25 parking stalls for the two uses, as proposed the project will have 25 spaces. 110 00:10:31,420 --> 00:10:37,680 And therefore, in conclusion, we are recommending approval of the resolution with the conditions 111 00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:44,000 of approval. Does anybody want me to go over those changes to the conditions, which were 112 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:54,080 the parapet wall changing it to properly screen the equipment and the changes to the signage 113 00:10:54,080 --> 00:11:00,100 and there was one item I did forget the additional landscaping in the front or more screen 114 00:11:00,100 --> 00:11:05,420 and to provide additional landscaping. Let me go back to that when I apologize for missing 115 00:11:05,420 --> 00:11:05,680 that. 116 00:11:08,810 --> 00:11:14,570 The project includes landscaping around the poll sign and this area is pretty much 117 00:11:14,570 --> 00:11:23,470 debt space is just asphalt and by adding additional landscape being in addition to the small 118 00:11:23,470 --> 00:11:28,970 area in front of the liquor store, it will provide a nice green buffer to Harvard Boulevard. 119 00:11:31,270 --> 00:11:36,570 At this point, I, this concludes staff's presentation and I can answer questions and then have 120 00:11:36,570 --> 00:11:41,350 the applicant describe the, the changes that they sent to me last week. 121 00:11:44,010 --> 00:11:45,690 Commissioners, questions of staff? 122 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,160 I have one question. 123 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,260 The poll sign you said didn't meet requirements. 124 00:11:59,560 --> 00:12:04,480 I assume the requirements for square footies changed after the original one was put up. 125 00:12:04,780 --> 00:12:05,280 That's correct. 126 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,460 Do you wish to hear from the applicant? 127 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:19,080 You'd like to speak. 128 00:12:21,910 --> 00:12:24,110 Good evening Mr. Chairman and commissioners. 129 00:12:24,570 --> 00:12:26,090 My name is Archie Delosario. 130 00:12:26,090 --> 00:12:30,250 I'm from Gary Wang Associates and I represent my client for Wabagril. 131 00:12:31,150 --> 00:12:36,170 What Anna was describing is that we made some changes on the facade for the building. 132 00:12:36,870 --> 00:12:44,670 Instead of keeping that gable kind of look that we had like here before. 133 00:12:45,490 --> 00:12:53,730 So what we're suggesting now, since we've spoken with the client, to install like a corrugated 134 00:12:53,730 --> 00:12:59,790 metal around the building, not only to serve as a design element for the building, but also 135 00:12:59,790 --> 00:13:03,070 to conceal the rooftop equipment that we currently have in there. 136 00:13:03,930 --> 00:13:06,270 So instead of like having that, 137 00:13:11,060 --> 00:13:15,240 instead of keeping that facade right now and putting 138 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:23,380 in the individual roof screen for the rooftop unit, I think that this better suits the design. 139 00:13:23,380 --> 00:13:25,360 So it kind of serves to purpose 140 00:13:26,260 --> 00:13:30,780 One kind of to be able to get a different look on the building 141 00:13:30,780 --> 00:13:38,640 Which I kind of ask like the modern kind of looked at and at the same time concealing the rooftop equipment that we have right now 142 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,380 I think that'll be better a character for this building 143 00:13:48,680 --> 00:13:54,740 As a example, this is how it's gonna look like in terms of the finished product 144 00:13:54,740 --> 00:13:59,880 So I think it has some more of a cleaner look and it changes the character of the old building. 145 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:07,580 The color would be like earth tone color, so it kind of blends with the 146 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:14,080 environment right now with whatever we have there. 147 00:14:14,700 --> 00:14:20,460 So it's not as kind of just take or doesn't stay away from what we currently have. 148 00:14:20,900 --> 00:14:26,680 It still has the same earth tone that we refer for all the wild bug real that we have built so far. 149 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:27,320 Yeah, 150 00:14:35,170 --> 00:14:38,550 question on the designer comment commission 151 00:14:43,060 --> 00:14:49,680 erectile. I don't have a question about the design. Maybe it's a question for the owner 152 00:14:50,500 --> 00:14:54,180 And I understand the definition of fast food 153 00:14:55,180 --> 00:14:59,740 But how fast is chicken salmon shrimp ribs and steak? 154 00:15:02,150 --> 00:15:08,270 It's just a curiosity question. I'll have the owner is to send the answer to that question. 155 00:15:08,410 --> 00:15:12,390 Is it question to staff or the applicant, more of how fast is chicken? 156 00:15:12,770 --> 00:15:19,050 It's similar to Panda. Panda had to go through the Panda Express on Harvard in the shopping center, had to go through the same process. 157 00:15:19,630 --> 00:15:24,790 I believe that's something we may look into the code as to how we define fast food. 158 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:37,440 I guess my point is I'd hate to have my stakes in under a warm lamp till I get there. 159 00:15:37,900 --> 00:15:38,000 Okay. 160 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,040 I guess that's my concern. 161 00:15:48,410 --> 00:15:50,430 Hope him using the right person. 162 00:15:50,610 --> 00:15:51,270 Let go. 163 00:15:51,510 --> 00:15:51,670 Okay. 164 00:15:51,890 --> 00:15:52,690 Now you can hear me. 165 00:15:53,130 --> 00:15:53,190 Okay. 166 00:15:53,590 --> 00:15:55,870 My name is Sandeeb of the applicant for this restaurant. 167 00:15:56,270 --> 00:15:57,990 I currently own one in Castake. 168 00:15:57,990 --> 00:15:59,630 I've been operating that unit for three years. 169 00:16:00,730 --> 00:16:02,590 What makes it different than everybody else? 170 00:16:03,510 --> 00:16:07,570 exact words. It's not sitting in a heat lamp. We don't even have a heat lamp. We don't 171 00:16:07,570 --> 00:16:11,770 have microwaves. So everything we do is we actually cook it to order. Your ribs are cooked 172 00:16:11,770 --> 00:16:16,350 to order, your shrimp is cooked to order. Check in, of course, we do cook it ahead of time 173 00:16:16,350 --> 00:16:21,570 because there's no way impossible for us to turn it as fast as we need to turn it. That's 174 00:16:21,570 --> 00:16:26,090 what makes Wabba go different. There's nothing in town that cooks fast food fresh for you. 175 00:16:26,810 --> 00:16:32,530 And healthy. We don't find nothing here. So we're typically Chinese food, Asian food 176 00:16:32,530 --> 00:16:37,630 food is fried, oil is used, we don't use any oil, everything is grilled, chicken is 177 00:16:37,630 --> 00:16:42,910 non frozen, rice is used from California, not overseas, so it's really a product that 178 00:16:42,910 --> 00:16:49,190 I believe in, so far the reputation that we have as a product is probably the best food 179 00:16:49,190 --> 00:16:51,210 fast food product in the market, I would say. 180 00:16:52,630 --> 00:16:58,910 Steak is ribeye, we've all had steak, that's not quality, and steak that we have is ribeye. 181 00:16:58,910 --> 00:17:03,830 The SAM is well from Alaska, shrimp are not this small. 182 00:17:03,990 --> 00:17:05,210 They're actually the jumbo shrimp. 183 00:17:06,130 --> 00:17:08,530 We're like a completely different product than, again, 184 00:17:08,830 --> 00:17:10,210 I can't say it over and over again. 185 00:17:10,750 --> 00:17:11,650 It's a new product. 186 00:17:12,010 --> 00:17:14,030 It's doing great in the Los Angeles area. 187 00:17:14,130 --> 00:17:16,810 We're up to 150 locations now. 188 00:17:17,270 --> 00:17:18,850 150 locations growing every day. 189 00:17:19,710 --> 00:17:21,030 Ventures just opened a new one. 190 00:17:22,070 --> 00:17:23,790 Oxnard has two new ones that just opened. 191 00:17:24,430 --> 00:17:25,490 Semi-value just opened one. 192 00:17:25,970 --> 00:17:27,110 And all locations are doing great. 193 00:17:27,110 --> 00:17:28,910 and all the communities love it. 194 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,780 The only thing that really makes it considered fast food 195 00:17:34,780 --> 00:17:39,360 is the fact that you're not using hard flatware and dishes. 196 00:17:40,180 --> 00:17:42,420 Yes, and I had that discussion with Anna 197 00:17:42,420 --> 00:17:45,420 and I really felt that, you know, 198 00:17:45,460 --> 00:17:48,860 we paid a significant fee to get this project going. 199 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,340 Being that was fast food and I asked, 200 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,340 and I go, is there any way we can get around that? 201 00:17:53,860 --> 00:17:56,200 And she says, no, well, you're considered fast food. 202 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,420 And I said, well, now you brought it to my attention 203 00:17:58,420 --> 00:17:59,480 is because of the silverware. 204 00:18:00,500 --> 00:18:03,720 I mean, I don't mind having metal silverware if it saves me a lot of money. 205 00:18:04,580 --> 00:18:07,700 I can give that to the community instead of paying in permit fees. 206 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:09,500 Thank you. 207 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,080 That answers my question. 208 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:11,560 Great. 209 00:18:11,660 --> 00:18:11,840 Thank you. 210 00:18:14,150 --> 00:18:15,050 Thank you very much. 211 00:18:15,550 --> 00:18:16,370 Any other questions? 212 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:20,280 Andrew Hanna-Motion. 213 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:21,880 Commissioner Robinson? 214 00:18:24,420 --> 00:18:29,760 As I was going through the back-and-hide, soon this was a set-down restaurant. 215 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,260 Is that correct? 216 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:32,840 Basically, yeah. 217 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,040 It's a, yeah. 218 00:18:35,660 --> 00:18:40,360 Oh, it's, are you gonna have takeout capabilities? 219 00:18:42,660 --> 00:18:42,920 Yes. 220 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:44,940 The customer's only able to call it. 221 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,240 Not only does the customer spend a certain restaurant 222 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,480 do you call it, but you have to call it with a phone 223 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:50,420 or they pick it up and go. 224 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,160 So you're in an Alice in two minutes through minutes. 225 00:18:53,820 --> 00:18:56,400 We're actually developing a new two-way system right now. 226 00:18:57,060 --> 00:18:59,300 I think the advantage of it is that you 227 00:18:59,300 --> 00:19:05,740 I see that in the government come in order themselves, pay themselves, check out what they're doing themselves without cash here 228 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:16,380 So they're going in, you pick up your order, you pay, you can say down to ease, do we have a customer that we do with our lunch, but a lunch ground? 229 00:19:17,100 --> 00:19:20,080 Customer that they're less than 50 minutes, 20 minutes, they're time. 230 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:23,440 Okay 231 00:19:36,590 --> 00:19:38,750 that we're going to have to go into any process. 232 00:19:44,060 --> 00:19:45,120 No bear and wine. 233 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,620 If at some point in the future they 234 00:19:48,620 --> 00:19:51,940 wanted to serve you and have to live for a new CUP. 235 00:19:53,300 --> 00:19:55,820 Modification, but yes, it's pretty much treated like a new 236 00:19:55,820 --> 00:19:56,360 CUP. 237 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,380 Well, I remember the bar that was there. 238 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:02,820 I don't remember the name either. 239 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,420 And I know it was a really problematic location. 240 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,880 There were a lot of police calls, a lot of activity there. 241 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:16,860 so this is a great step forward. We'll have a cleaner environment, I think, in that community, 242 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:23,640 so that's good. The parking and the traffic in and out concerns me a little bit, if staff is okay 243 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:30,260 with it, then I think we should move forward with it. Is that a motion there, Commissioner Robinson? 244 00:20:30,260 --> 00:20:38,780 that we accept, or I have at page 11, the 245 00:20:45,540 --> 00:20:45,840 bottom. 246 00:20:51,620 --> 00:20:56,500 Okay, that we adopt resolution 3776 approving conditional use permit. 247 00:20:57,120 --> 00:21:05,760 Number 2017 CDP05 to allow proposed fast food restaurant Wabba Grill, design review and 248 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:11,100 minor modification for reduction and required parking spaces for property located at 249 00:21:11,100 --> 00:21:16,020 one, three, two, West Harvard Boulevard, subject to conditions of approval. 250 00:21:16,940 --> 00:21:17,700 Second. 251 00:21:19,060 --> 00:21:20,320 And moved and seconded. 252 00:21:20,780 --> 00:21:21,460 All in favor? 253 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:22,540 Aye. 254 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:23,740 Any opposed? 255 00:21:25,860 --> 00:21:26,620 Option carries. 256 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:28,780 It's approved. 257 00:21:34,230 --> 00:21:36,710 Go forth and cook food. 258 00:21:41,020 --> 00:21:41,400 Maybe. 259 00:21:41,980 --> 00:21:42,880 Is that tonight? 260 00:21:49,360 --> 00:21:52,760 Okay, next, I'll close the public hearing, 261 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,260 next is order of business, 262 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,100 election of new planning commission officers. 263 00:22:02,530 --> 00:22:10,090 So currently we have two positions to reconsider as far as roles, 264 00:22:10,510 --> 00:22:13,730 chair and vice chair, and given that commissioner, 265 00:22:13,730 --> 00:22:21,410 where summer will soon be off the commission and will currently be recruiting for another commission member. 266 00:22:22,250 --> 00:22:38,570 The likelihood of that new commission member either being the chair or the vice chair, you know, without any tenure is not likely so I think what we have as far as a group right now would be recommendation staff would be for us to decide those two positions and we can do that tonight. 267 00:22:38,570 --> 00:22:43,270 Okay, and the process, if needed, is on the last page of your packet. 268 00:22:43,710 --> 00:22:44,830 Mm-hm, that's two pages. 269 00:22:48,420 --> 00:22:54,160 Well, I beg a motion, Mr. Fred Robinson, the chair. 270 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:56,280 Second. 271 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,120 There's a second. 272 00:22:59,660 --> 00:23:01,400 You don't need a second? 273 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:02,980 I know, it's okay. 274 00:23:03,980 --> 00:23:05,200 Now, make a comment. 275 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:06,320 Yes? 276 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:19,100 I am grateful for the consideration for the position but my term on a planning commission 277 00:23:19,100 --> 00:23:26,620 is soon to expire and I will not be reapplying to the city council to continue service on 278 00:23:26,620 --> 00:23:27,500 the planning commission. 279 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:32,680 So in deference, and it's only just a few months, is that correct? 280 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:41,020 Okay so with that in mind I decline all right I hear it 281 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,940 can I make a motion well 282 00:23:44,940 --> 00:23:57,080 sure you're still on here I move that Commissioner Margot Banks be 283 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:01,300 appointed chair for the planning commission I 284 00:24:04,850 --> 00:24:06,530 move nominations be closed 285 00:24:07,570 --> 00:24:07,970 second. 286 00:24:11,170 --> 00:24:14,090 Congratulations. Thank you. That takes care of that and now we have one more. 287 00:24:16,190 --> 00:24:16,590 Commissioner 288 00:24:16,590 --> 00:24:22,810 Banks needs to accept. Oh, she does. She does. How long do I have to think about it now? 289 00:24:23,970 --> 00:24:30,870 I'll accept. How much training comes with this? I'll accept. We're all friends. We need a vice 290 00:24:30,870 --> 00:24:35,330 This chair, I move that Commissioner McPhale, the vice chair. 291 00:24:35,910 --> 00:24:36,290 Second. 292 00:24:37,850 --> 00:24:41,030 I move the nominations be closed. 293 00:24:42,470 --> 00:24:43,190 Okay. 294 00:24:44,490 --> 00:24:45,610 Oh, I accept. 295 00:24:45,890 --> 00:24:49,610 Except everyone, everybody calm down. 296 00:24:52,980 --> 00:24:54,220 So, very good. 297 00:24:55,460 --> 00:24:57,860 So you start next, the next meeting. 298 00:24:58,540 --> 00:24:58,700 Yeah. 299 00:25:01,020 --> 00:25:02,700 It's going to be televised, yeah. 300 00:25:03,340 --> 00:25:04,860 No, I don't. 301 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,620 No, no, no. 302 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,200 Don't tell Peggy, though. 303 00:25:11,820 --> 00:25:14,280 Don't tell Peggy, there's been a change. 304 00:25:16,940 --> 00:25:18,160 We don't want to let Peggy know. 305 00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:19,840 She's a newspaper, you know? 306 00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:20,680 I can't. 307 00:25:22,180 --> 00:25:23,300 All right. 308 00:25:23,820 --> 00:25:24,080 Good. 309 00:25:25,100 --> 00:25:26,460 Congratulations both of you. 310 00:25:26,580 --> 00:25:27,040 You'll do fine. 311 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:28,240 Thank you. 312 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:34,280 as you as you can see here it's pretty much we all kind of work together and 313 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:39,880 help each other out and would be disappointed to see Fred leave after a long time 314 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,540 but a little while it's time for some new ideas we 315 00:25:46,620 --> 00:25:48,040 don't come up with ideas we 316 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:57,740 just review what's putting forward I'd like to congratulate commit I because even 317 00:25:57,740 --> 00:26:02,560 before I got on the commission he was doing a fantastic job and you do a great 318 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,640 job getting this in, getting this out in a very professional manner and I 319 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,480 just want to say thank you. You're welcome, thank you. I've enjoyed it. I'm not 320 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:15,400 going anywhere right now. It's been a great working with you. You have done a 321 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:21,740 great job. You know how to run a meeting. Very respectful. I've been up there 322 00:26:21,740 --> 00:26:27,680 And other other capacity my life and I know how difficult it can be when you get a 323 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,920 Number of speaker cards and trying to keep them in order 324 00:26:34,100 --> 00:26:37,900 And you've got us out of here in a decent hour most of the time and 325 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,420 Those of us 326 00:26:42,620 --> 00:26:44,740 Earlier bed times as we grow old 327 00:26:47,260 --> 00:26:51,190 Older but we still have business to conduct 328 00:26:51,190 --> 00:26:53,630 Do we have any new business? 329 00:26:54,810 --> 00:26:55,750 We do not. 330 00:26:56,170 --> 00:26:56,530 Okay. 331 00:26:57,090 --> 00:26:58,110 City communications. 332 00:26:59,230 --> 00:27:00,970 Anything from the planning department? 333 00:27:01,770 --> 00:27:08,010 Well, one element that you see in there as far as the design assistance committee, looking 334 00:27:08,010 --> 00:27:17,730 for another representative, Chair Eckert, you've been with the DAC for quite a while. 335 00:27:17,730 --> 00:27:24,010 And I did talk to Commissioner Banks about potentially being a part of that. 336 00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:33,580 So, I don't know if you're still interested in it, okay, that's yeah so yeah no that's 337 00:27:33,580 --> 00:27:37,900 that's fine so and we'll probably be having a meeting within the next month so. 338 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:44,560 It's a good group of people and they do a very important work for the community. 339 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,420 I think the other thing you just mentioned some things probably the most important thing 340 00:27:54,420 --> 00:28:01,120 coming down the pipeline is we're working on the general plan update and on March 19th there'll be 341 00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:06,960 a city council study session which will be a public meeting talking about mainly focused on land use 342 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:14,820 just some trying to create continuity between our zoning and our general plan general plan being 343 00:28:14,820 --> 00:28:19,080 long-term land use and zoning being our existing land use so there's some discrepancies we want to 344 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:24,120 try and tighten that up a little bit better and we're taking public input people that have concerns 345 00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:29,280 about properties and having a conference right now I'm having a one-on-ones with council members just to get them 346 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,160 familiar with some of the changes that may need to occur. 347 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:42,860 Outside of that a lot of development happening I think last that counted we have somewhere 348 00:28:42,860 --> 00:28:51,380 counting Waba about a half a dozen restaurants in some stage of either looking or development or 349 00:28:51,380 --> 00:28:53,700 you know, starting to secure space. 350 00:28:54,180 --> 00:28:56,720 So the one thing about restaurants is they have to go 351 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,300 through the county environmental health 352 00:29:00,300 --> 00:29:01,580 and that can take a long time. 353 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,960 So the idea of opening a restaurant 354 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,220 and getting it open can be two different things. 355 00:29:06,380 --> 00:29:08,160 So we'll see what the next year brings us, 356 00:29:08,260 --> 00:29:10,820 but that could bring some nice options and choices. 357 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,440 And I'm excited to have something like Waba fast food, 358 00:29:14,660 --> 00:29:15,840 but at least fresh. 359 00:29:16,100 --> 00:29:17,720 You know, getting us away, we talked about that before 360 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,000 or from the fried in dangerous food 361 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,300 and getting something a little bit more healthy. 362 00:29:25,380 --> 00:29:28,740 I think that's probably it. 363 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,660 Any commissioners have any future agenda items? 364 00:29:35,620 --> 00:29:37,240 Yes, no, maybe so. 365 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,400 Can I jump in briefly? 366 00:29:38,580 --> 00:29:38,900 You can. 367 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,220 So with Commissioner Summers departure 368 00:29:44,070 --> 00:29:46,560 and then Commissioner Robinson's departure in the fall, 369 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,920 And the way that planning commission staffing has gone 370 00:29:52,460 --> 00:29:54,640 with recruitment for the food positions, 371 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,260 we may not have a full complement of five again, 372 00:29:58,920 --> 00:29:59,960 realistically until the- 373 00:30:01,140 --> 00:30:29,320 We will probably operate with four for some time, hopefully not three, but if we can get more commissioners to apply and to come in sooner, we may not have to go that route. But realistically, we're probably going to have four for a few months, at least, between the application, the approval through the city council, you guys all went through that process. So we'll be on the right side, but we'll get there by the fall. Okay? 374 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,080 It's good, it's good. 375 00:30:32,460 --> 00:30:35,950 Nothing further, we're adjourned. 376 00:30:35,950 --> 00:30:36,370 I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.