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>> So really looking at those

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and understanding how that

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potentially restricts increase

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compatibility issue or

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generates or addresses

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compatibility concerns in

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neighborhoods. Excuse me is an

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important piece. Sb 10 can

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also be adopted without going

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through the environmental

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Review process or sequel.

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Typically when we adopt or

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rezoning exercises, we go

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through technical various

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technical analysis to

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determine impacts to

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infrastructure. And the

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general plan is a really good

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example of that. It looks at

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when you basically increase

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densities in certain areas.

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What impact does that have to

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the overall operation of the

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city? So that's an area where

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if the council elects to move

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forward, we can determine what

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technical analysis is needed

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or not. Sb 10 provides that

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opportunity. Community

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engagement. Also a critical

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piece to this generally with

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more overreaching global city

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initiatives. We do not do

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targeted engagement because

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it's very difficult missing.

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Middle was a different

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example. That was a very

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targeted focus that had very

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targeted engagement and that

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focused and on those

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communities and understanding

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their concerns. But most of

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our global planning

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initiatives are more global

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communication and feedback not

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involved that the targeted

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approach. And of course,

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public hearings how to this

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adopting go Fay inner section

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of the Planning Commission and

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the council ultimately voted

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option. There's some

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flexibility there. Typically

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if we do go with an option

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that involves more of a

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defined approach and creating

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restrictions and looking at

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objective design standards.

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That is typically us fairly

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significant lift that is often

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back stopped with consultants

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missing. Middle is a prime

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example. That was a very

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heavy. We used consult an

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exercise and that helps us

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move forward. Quicker helps us

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to the technical studies

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needed. So depending on the

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level of technical analysis

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typically will fall back on on

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trying to bring in consulting

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services. Sb 10 is a bit

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unique. There are a number of

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jurisdictions in Sonoma County

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talking about it and with our

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peers. In other jurisdictions,

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we've been talking about how

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we potentially share resources

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to do global reviews of

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initiatives that are move

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forward is not required. So

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that MAY help offset the cost.

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But we do in this particular

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case envision consultants

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between critical role in the

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adoption. Next slide. Please.

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So looking at the technical

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reviews, as I mentioned, these

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are not required. But as we go

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through looking at rezoning

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exercises, these are typically

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what we look at as part of

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that transportation traffic

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flow parking are fairly

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critical. We also look at

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really, obviously we have

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issues with drainage in

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certain areas where we do an

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analysis associated

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potentially regional impacts

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and also how is sewer and

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water provided to these

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parcels? And what point do we

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go over some of our calculated

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capacity in these areas? We

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don't anticipate that that

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would potentially occur. But

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if we don't have stops that

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can occur, our general plan

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actually looks at this. So any

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sort of exercise, especially

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if this is a broad deployment,

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can potentially increase the

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densities above and beyond

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what the general plan

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anticipated. Of course,

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there's fire protection and

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police services are critical

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because the densities

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increasing in areas where

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they're traditionally single

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families, so understanding

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what direction the council

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wants to move forward with

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with technical studies, if the

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desire is to move forward with

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sb 10 is a critical piece in a

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slide provides an example of

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some of those studies that

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we've historically began next

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slide. Please. So really with

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advanced planning a lot of the

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work that we're doing right

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now because any addition does

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become a prioritization

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conversation. The team is

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generally 5 Ft ease full-time

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employees focusing on a plan

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to advance planning

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initiatives. Most of that work

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is in state mandated projects.

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So MISS Nicholson mentioned,

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it's fairly rare that we get

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state legislation that instead

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of a shough. A lot of what the

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state kicks is a required

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adoption for the cities and

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the team works heavily

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throughout the year on that.

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Others also reporting

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requirements for general plan

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that we have to go through at

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this time of year. So we start

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prepping for that work. We

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have a number of projects that

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are funding related projects

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and that could be our transit

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or even communities. These are

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projects where we're doing

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planning work to bring more

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funding into the city. So

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those are very critical from

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that standpoint, we have to

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council goal projects right

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now that our entertainment

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zones in our South Center is a

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specific plan. And then we

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have a bucket of other

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projects that I think it's

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important to highlight. We

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recently moved forward with

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overhaul of our use permit

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process. There's a lot of

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efficiency measures we try to

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put in our planning documents

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that better serve development

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projects and we have a number

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of those that are really on

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the shelf that we move out and

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meter out when we can. So

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typically what we see right

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now is a break where we can

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reevaluate priorities without

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affecting what we have in the

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queue right now. Likely in

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summer of 2027. If we rely

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fully on staff to move this

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forward, it becomes a very

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heavy lift. It affects more of

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the prioritization when

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consultants are provided to

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really back stop it. It helps

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move this forward. But that's

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where really right now without

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affecting the main to council

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goal projects would which

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would be the ones in jeopardy

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if this was moved in front

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priority wise. We are looking

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at that break of summer of

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2027 next slide. Please. It's

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really the next 2 slides are

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focusing on that. The input

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that staff is attempting to

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receive today. So really the

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options before the Council

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with sb 10 is that we can

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avoid adopting sb 10. We can

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adopt sb 10 as worded or we

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could adopt sb 10 with a more

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targeted approach that places

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parameters around a variety of

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different focus points that

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we've discussed in the slide

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in the next slide will will

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dive into that more

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particularly next slide.

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Please. So really, if it is

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the council's desire to move

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forward with a targeted

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approach and we're happy to

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bring the slide up to move the

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conversation forward. These

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are really the areas where it

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helps to get feedback.

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units under sb 10 of 10, but

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that unit count can be reduced

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down to do less than that

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parcel size, specifically

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minimum lot size. If there is

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a desire to focus on larger

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parcels where they have more

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separation produces the

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density, that is something the

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council can provide input on.

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hazard considerations. So, for

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example, in this particular

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case, the high fire severity

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zone is ruled out. But there

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are other hazards on such as

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flooding and fire where the

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council can make a decision to

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exclude those zones. There's

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also infrastructure

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conversation. So areas where

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the infrastructure does exist,

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where it's closer to

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transportation. That is an

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avenue where we would want to

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know if there is a desire to

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restrict based on that. And

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that goes into really party

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locations to I think if we're

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talking about closer to

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transit, where it's a more

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walkable community that would

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really help us, you know, move

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this forward neighborhood

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context is always one of the

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challenges, especially from a

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missing middle standpoint. I

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do think with missing middle

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there, there are a lot of

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neighborhoods that function

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incredibly well with mixed use

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waste with smaller types of

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duplexes triplex is

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incorporating this unit type

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from a compatibility

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standpoint, design standards

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become critical to making that

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work. But understanding what

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that neighborhood context but

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should look like ultimately

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getting into the design

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standards would be helpful. So

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really, we're looking for

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moving forward or not. And for

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moving forward. Are we moving

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forward with sb 10 as worded

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or if there's a desire to be

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more targeted? We would love

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to receive feedback on those

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areas. We should focus on for

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those targets. And with that

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next slide, please. We will do

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open it up to any questions.

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The council MAY Excellent.

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Thank you. All right. Look at

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the council. Questions. Let's

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on why either questions.

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Questions preferred when if

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you wish.

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>> So MISTER Donovan, her hand

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up first.

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>> Thank you, Mayor. Thanks

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for the presentation. I

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appreciate and meeting with

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you ahead of time to

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understand this little bit

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more in deaths because have a

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lot of s p's that allow us to

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build housing. And we've done

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a lot of work based on what

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state is requiring of but also

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what we've done and I think in

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our general plan and and all

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the other components that

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addressed, one of the

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questions I have and I think

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you just a little bit gay was

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around the amount of work that

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our staff currently has and

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what something like this would

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do for what we're currently

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working on and and slowing up

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projects. Can you give me a

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little bit more insight on how

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that could impact us?

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>> Yes, absolutely. Obviously

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the state mandated projects

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are critical because they're

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usually mandated under a

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specific timeline. So those

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are very, very difficult for

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us to maneuver. And there's a

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significant amount currently

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in the queue. We talk about

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the council directed projects

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the South Center is a specific

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plan and the entertainment

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zones by moving those to the

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side to allow resources to

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work on sb 10 is a priority.

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It would affect the timelines

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associated with oats. The

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other option is that once we

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get through this, obviously as

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we get through goal setting

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and discussions associated

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with budget, understanding how

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we're going to get close to

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completing those projects

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towards the end of the fiscal

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year. We do receive a break

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around the summer and some of

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the projects that we typically

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tried to figured feel that

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capacity with our there's been

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discussions about beekeeping

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ordinances we have seen year

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over land a holding pattern.

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So those are some of the

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projects that are on the

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shelf. We also have a project

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which is a comprehensive

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overhaul of our zoning code,

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which is very important from

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an efficiency standpoint and

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brings our zoning code up to

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date. So the easy answer is we

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do have a bit of a break. We

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would have to explore and

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understand what level of

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capacity exists if we take

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advantage of this in the break

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in that break would be in

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summer of 2027. So if there is

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a desire and that is the

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timeline to move forward, we

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can put this into the work

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plan. We if we receive

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feedback that there's

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significant technical studies

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and desire to really restrict

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sb 10, then there would likely

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be an effort to understand the

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consulting costs, which

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ultimately allow us to do

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technical studies that we

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can't do in-house, but also

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speed up the timeline. But I

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think to simply answer your

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question because it's a

389
00:38:29,409 --> 00:38:30,611
council directive, we would

390
00:38:30,611 --> 00:38:31,745
normally not want to basically

391
00:38:31,745 --> 00:38:32,445
put the South San versus Plan,

392
00:38:32,445 --> 00:38:34,148
our entertainment zones on a

393
00:38:34,148 --> 00:38:35,516
different track or slow them.

394
00:38:35,516 --> 00:38:36,417
But we do naturally end up

395
00:38:36,417 --> 00:38:37,830
with a break around summer as

396
00:38:37,830 --> 00:38:40,830
we get through the natural

397
00:38:41,155 --> 00:38:42,456
cycle of state legislation.

398
00:38:42,456 --> 00:38:45,192
>> You tell me some of the

399
00:38:45,192 --> 00:38:46,827
other unintended consequences

400
00:38:46,827 --> 00:38:49,827
we've had where we're skipping

401
00:38:51,499 --> 00:38:52,433
through s-class or reports in

402
00:38:52,433 --> 00:38:53,568
communities. I think

403
00:38:53,568 --> 00:38:56,237
specifically around is that sb

404
00:38:56,237 --> 00:38:58,172
35 and maybe even sb 9 where

405
00:38:58,172 --> 00:39:00,408
they're able to go in and make

406
00:39:00,408 --> 00:39:01,308
these adjustments, housing at

407
00:39:01,308 --> 00:39:01,809
affordable housing. But

408
00:39:01,809 --> 00:39:03,809
without doing the

409
00:39:04,378 --> 00:39:06,447
environmental impacts or how

410
00:39:06,447 --> 00:39:07,148
it's impacting traffic in

411
00:39:07,148 --> 00:39:07,882
neighborhoods or areas, could

412
00:39:07,882 --> 00:39:11,419
you give me a little bit

413
00:39:11,419 --> 00:39:12,220
background? How sb 10, what

414
00:39:12,220 --> 00:39:15,820
impact us for for those types

415
00:39:15,890 --> 00:39:16,591
of things?

416
00:39:16,591 --> 00:39:18,991
>> Yes, absolutely I'll start

417
00:39:19,894 --> 00:39:20,495
and handed over to the team.

418
00:39:20,495 --> 00:39:22,162
Typically there's a few

419
00:39:22,162 --> 00:39:24,298
different things we focus on

420
00:39:24,298 --> 00:39:25,867
with state legislation where

421
00:39:25,867 --> 00:39:26,501
it passes on a in estero

422
00:39:26,501 --> 00:39:28,901
process that would have

423
00:39:29,304 --> 00:39:30,405
normally gone through an

424
00:39:30,405 --> 00:39:31,272
environmental review. What's

425
00:39:31,272 --> 00:39:33,374
very important is our general

426
00:39:33,374 --> 00:39:34,409
plan really focuses on what

427
00:39:34,409 --> 00:39:37,378
the overall growth of the city

428
00:39:37,378 --> 00:39:39,130
looks like that is bringing in

429
00:39:39,130 --> 00:39:39,747
the appropriate infrastructure

430
00:39:39,747 --> 00:39:41,916
analysis and understanding how

431
00:39:41,916 --> 00:39:43,952
the city functions in a growth

432
00:39:43,952 --> 00:39:45,520
mode when you can exceed to be

433
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,688
on the general plan it

434
00:39:47,688 --> 00:39:48,689
presents challenges. One of

435
00:39:48,689 --> 00:39:49,891
the pieces that we really

436
00:39:49,891 --> 00:39:52,590
strongly focus on and is part

437
00:39:52,590 --> 00:39:52,694
of one of our efficiency

438
00:39:52,694 --> 00:39:54,162
processes that are moving

439
00:39:54,162 --> 00:39:56,130
forward is objective design

440
00:39:56,130 --> 00:39:57,932
standards. So what the state

441
00:39:57,932 --> 00:39:58,699
allows the city to do is

442
00:39:58,699 --> 00:39:59,400
implement objective design

443
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,436
standards in most situations

444
00:40:01,436 --> 00:40:03,471
where by right housing is

445
00:40:03,471 --> 00:40:04,139
allowed. And those objective

446
00:40:04,139 --> 00:40:04,872
design standards have to be

447
00:40:04,872 --> 00:40:07,709
published. They have to be his

448
00:40:07,709 --> 00:40:08,676
Mormon. Review. So they

449
00:40:08,676 --> 00:40:09,711
typically help with more

450
00:40:09,711 --> 00:40:11,513
localized issues such as

451
00:40:11,513 --> 00:40:13,748
design, but they can focus on

452
00:40:13,748 --> 00:40:14,716
other pieces where it becomes

453
00:40:14,716 --> 00:40:15,984
problematic is it doesn't

454
00:40:15,984 --> 00:40:18,453
necessarily allow us to do a

455
00:40:18,453 --> 00:40:19,154
more regional study approach

456
00:40:19,154 --> 00:40:20,622
and then hold the development

457
00:40:20,622 --> 00:40:22,356
and make them responsible for

458
00:40:22,356 --> 00:40:24,192
that. So that's typically what

459
00:40:24,192 --> 00:40:25,560
the technical studies do. They

460
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:26,326
anticipate growth and then

461
00:40:26,326 --> 00:40:28,430
they understand how the

462
00:40:28,430 --> 00:40:30,364
infrastructure stays ahead of

463
00:40:30,364 --> 00:40:31,232
that growth. And it can also

464
00:40:31,232 --> 00:40:32,667
align certain infrastructure

465
00:40:32,667 --> 00:40:33,335
pieces that the developers

466
00:40:33,335 --> 00:40:34,200
required to do and what the

467
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,437
city is required to do for

468
00:40:36,437 --> 00:40:37,380
more of the regional approach.

469
00:40:37,380 --> 00:40:39,307
So it really takes more

470
00:40:39,307 --> 00:40:40,709
holistic study out of it. But

471
00:40:40,709 --> 00:40:42,377
there are other ways if when

472
00:40:42,377 --> 00:40:43,278
you're dealing with smaller

473
00:40:43,278 --> 00:40:45,446
units, they typically don't

474
00:40:45,446 --> 00:40:46,514
have the same impact as larger

475
00:40:46,514 --> 00:40:47,248
Objective design chance

476
00:40:47,248 --> 00:40:47,916
standards can sometimes feel

477
00:40:47,916 --> 00:40:50,518
the need to understand how

478
00:40:50,518 --> 00:40:52,860
those are processed. So we get

479
00:40:52,860 --> 00:40:52,787
a lot of questions about are

480
00:40:52,787 --> 00:40:55,690
we going to have enough water

481
00:40:55,690 --> 00:40:57,292
if we continue to grow?

482
00:40:57,292 --> 00:41:00,892
>> And if I'm looking at this

483
00:41:02,300 --> 00:41:02,731
statistic 72% of the houses

484
00:41:02,731 --> 00:41:05,434
are lots Santa Rosa would be

485
00:41:05,434 --> 00:41:08,303
able if we did a blanket, we

486
00:41:08,303 --> 00:41:10,703
could potentially be impacted.

487
00:41:11,306 --> 00:41:12,340
Have we look to water to see

488
00:41:12,340 --> 00:41:13,275
the capacity of where we would

489
00:41:13,275 --> 00:41:17,312
be at or is there any feedback

490
00:41:17,312 --> 00:41:19,280
that we get from water? I look

491
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,416
at it also has like public

492
00:41:21,416 --> 00:41:22,217
safety and, you know, being

493
00:41:22,217 --> 00:41:25,817
able to respond to that type

494
00:41:26,988 --> 00:41:27,823
of growth. This is it feels so

495
00:41:27,823 --> 00:41:28,623
astronomical. This a 72% of

496
00:41:28,623 --> 00:41:31,292
your but lots could actually

497
00:41:31,292 --> 00:41:34,290
qualify for this for that.

498
00:41:34,290 --> 00:41:36,898
Cross the city of Santa Rosa.

499
00:41:36,898 --> 00:41:38,266
So those seem like pretty big

500
00:41:38,266 --> 00:41:38,834
things we should know about

501
00:41:38,834 --> 00:41:41,234
why we're having the

502
00:41:44,906 --> 00:41:46,906
discussion.

503
00:41:47,109 --> 00:41:49,770
>> Thanks for the question.

504
00:41:49,770 --> 00:41:49,778
Councilmember. We have had

505
00:41:49,778 --> 00:41:50,479
some high level conversations

506
00:41:50,479 --> 00:41:53,479
with our colleagues in other

507
00:41:54,850 --> 00:41:55,850
departments. And there can be

508
00:41:55,850 --> 00:41:57,850
some technical analysis

509
00:41:57,850 --> 00:41:58,854
provided by staff as it

510
00:41:58,854 --> 00:41:59,488
relates to water supply and

511
00:41:59,488 --> 00:42:01,888
the provision of various

512
00:42:04,125 --> 00:42:06,195
services. That will depend on

513
00:42:06,195 --> 00:42:06,795
the council chooses to refine

514
00:42:06,795 --> 00:42:07,495
the properties that are

515
00:42:07,495 --> 00:42:10,966
included or wants to do them

516
00:42:10,966 --> 00:42:11,600
are brought up prod approach

517
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,000
that information I would

518
00:42:15,571 --> 00:42:16,505
certainly be provided. As we

519
00:42:16,505 --> 00:42:17,720
move forward with any

520
00:42:17,720 --> 00:42:19,720
implementation effort

521
00:42:25,247 --> 00:42:28,247
directed. I know, there's a

522
00:42:29,118 --> 00:42:29,818
lot that goes into and I can

523
00:42:29,818 --> 00:42:31,954
say my comments about what I

524
00:42:31,954 --> 00:42:33,856
want to do after that. I think

525
00:42:33,856 --> 00:42:36,856
that's primarily just for one

526
00:42:37,325 --> 00:42:38,493
might point of clarification.

527
00:42:38,493 --> 00:42:42,930
Our current lot size and and

528
00:42:42,231 --> 00:42:45,234
what we have in place. S p 10

529
00:42:45,234 --> 00:42:47,102
would allow for 10 units to be

530
00:42:47,102 --> 00:42:47,703
there. You're saying on slide

531
00:42:47,703 --> 00:42:50,103
earlier that ours would

532
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:52,206
actually only allow for 4 what

533
00:42:52,206 --> 00:42:54,176
supersedes each other. So if

534
00:42:54,176 --> 00:42:56,545
we have our current policies

535
00:42:56,545 --> 00:42:58,880
in place and we work to do

536
00:42:58,880 --> 00:42:59,915
this blanket, we still be

537
00:42:59,915 --> 00:43:02,915
subject to our other process

538
00:43:03,786 --> 00:43:04,753
or with this? Then go over and

539
00:43:04,753 --> 00:43:06,889
say know your old process is

540
00:43:06,889 --> 00:43:07,823
out today and now you get 10

541
00:43:07,823 --> 00:43:10,426
units on that lot. I'm I'm

542
00:43:10,426 --> 00:43:11,160
sorry. I'm not clear on on

543
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,361
that. Or am I even being clear

544
00:43:12,361 --> 00:43:15,961
with my question? You can say

545
00:43:20,350 --> 00:43:21,337
now?

546
00:43:21,337 --> 00:43:23,205
>> Are you referencing the

547
00:43:23,205 --> 00:43:23,839
slide that shows what state

548
00:43:23,839 --> 00:43:26,239
law allows with accessory

549
00:43:28,177 --> 00:43:30,177
dwelling units and

550
00:43:33,490 --> 00:43:34,583
>> so you like Navy Use and 9.

551
00:43:34,583 --> 00:43:35,251
It was around development

552
00:43:35,251 --> 00:43:37,651
standards and abilities. So

553
00:43:39,321 --> 00:43:41,390
when I look at slide, 12 star

554
00:43:41,390 --> 00:43:44,193
halves, its the front setback.

555
00:43:44,193 --> 00:43:46,328
We're back and all of those

556
00:43:46,328 --> 00:43:48,297
current rules. But if I go to

557
00:43:48,297 --> 00:43:49,565
previous slides, it shows how

558
00:43:49,565 --> 00:43:50,432
the neighborhood to a change

559
00:43:50,432 --> 00:43:53,769
based on what's allowed in sb

560
00:43:53,769 --> 00:43:54,470
10. My question is to our

561
00:43:54,470 --> 00:43:56,470
current standards and

562
00:43:56,505 --> 00:43:57,873
feasibility with our current

563
00:43:57,873 --> 00:44:00,273
setbacks with that shrank

564
00:44:01,777 --> 00:44:03,445
down. What sb 10 is allowing

565
00:44:03,445 --> 00:44:05,281
people to do to meet the

566
00:44:05,281 --> 00:44:07,650
standards or if we adopt sb

567
00:44:07,650 --> 00:44:08,351
10, would it then change what

568
00:44:08,351 --> 00:44:11,951
we currently have in place to

569
00:44:14,590 --> 00:44:15,791
be able to have 10? Thank you

570
00:44:15,791 --> 00:44:18,191
for clarifying. So this

571
00:44:19,428 --> 00:44:20,128
graphic here shows.

572
00:44:20,128 --> 00:44:21,631
>> How a site is constrained.

573
00:44:21,631 --> 00:44:22,765
So if you're only developing

574
00:44:22,765 --> 00:44:24,333
in that kind of green hatched

575
00:44:24,333 --> 00:44:26,235
area, you MAY not be able to

576
00:44:26,235 --> 00:44:27,837
get up to those 10 units based

577
00:44:27,837 --> 00:44:29,338
on the standards that

578
00:44:29,338 --> 00:44:29,972
currently apply across much of

579
00:44:29,972 --> 00:44:31,972
Santa Rosa's residential

580
00:44:33,843 --> 00:44:34,510
parcels. So if the council,

581
00:44:34,510 --> 00:44:37,510
would like to move forward

582
00:44:39,315 --> 00:44:40,249
with sb 10. We would want

583
00:44:40,249 --> 00:44:42,249
simultaneously established

584
00:44:43,619 --> 00:44:44,720
development standards that.

585
00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:47,230
Make it more feasible to get

586
00:44:47,230 --> 00:44:47,724
more units than just MAY be

587
00:44:47,724 --> 00:44:50,493
the 4 that are shown here on

588
00:44:50,493 --> 00:44:53,493
this slide. Any rezoning would

589
00:44:56,980 --> 00:44:57,266
not mandate that 10 units were

590
00:44:57,266 --> 00:44:58,434
developed. It would just be a

591
00:44:58,434 --> 00:45:01,337
new maximum on a property that

592
00:45:01,337 --> 00:45:04,337
otherwise MAY only be allowed

593
00:45:05,174 --> 00:45:06,800
to have one primary unit or 2

594
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:07,777
primary units under the city's

595
00:45:07,777 --> 00:45:08,344
general plan and state law.

596
00:45:08,344 --> 00:45:10,744
Does that clarify the

597
00:45:11,748 --> 00:45:15,348
question? Gabe, do you see my

598
00:45:15,351 --> 00:45:18,254
face? And to be able to help

599
00:45:18,254 --> 00:45:20,254
with I yeah.

600
00:45:20,323 --> 00:45:22,258
>> So there's really sort of 3

601
00:45:22,258 --> 00:45:25,258
scenarios here. So what sb 10

602
00:45:26,128 --> 00:45:26,763
does if it is adopted with no

603
00:45:26,763 --> 00:45:28,264
restrictions? Is it just

604
00:45:28,264 --> 00:45:30,133
simply allows 10 units to be

605
00:45:30,133 --> 00:45:32,680
installed on a lot under

606
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,300
certain circumstances. And

607
00:45:34,300 --> 00:45:35,105
then what St sb 10 does is it

608
00:45:35,105 --> 00:45:37,505
gives the local jurisdiction

609
00:45:37,907 --> 00:45:38,975
the ability to apply objective

610
00:45:38,975 --> 00:45:39,542
design standards. So and it's

611
00:45:39,542 --> 00:45:40,243
really the same in a

612
00:45:40,243 --> 00:45:42,243
residential zoning district.

613
00:45:42,812 --> 00:45:43,813
You can build a single-family,

614
00:45:43,813 --> 00:45:45,181
but there are certain

615
00:45:45,181 --> 00:45:45,882
requirements, setbacks in code

616
00:45:45,882 --> 00:45:47,316
that restrict the height and

617
00:45:47,316 --> 00:45:49,485
where that single-family is

618
00:45:49,485 --> 00:45:51,487
placed. So what we're seeing

619
00:45:51,487 --> 00:45:54,324
is if the council elected to

620
00:45:54,324 --> 00:45:55,325
adopt sb 10 with no parameters

621
00:45:55,325 --> 00:45:56,459
that developments going

622
00:45:56,459 --> 00:45:57,294
through an sb 10 proposal

623
00:45:57,294 --> 00:45:58,327
would still run into a problem

624
00:45:58,327 --> 00:46:00,300
with our site requirements

625
00:46:00,300 --> 00:46:01,998
that are designed for a single

626
00:46:01,998 --> 00:46:03,733
family. So they would

627
00:46:03,733 --> 00:46:04,401
naturally reduce the amount of

628
00:46:04,401 --> 00:46:06,401
development where developer

629
00:46:06,870 --> 00:46:08,939
likely could not achieve 10

630
00:46:08,939 --> 00:46:10,600
units. So at a bare minimum to

631
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:11,708
achieve 10 units, we would

632
00:46:11,708 --> 00:46:12,542
likely as part of a global

633
00:46:12,542 --> 00:46:13,276
adoptions still need to amend

634
00:46:13,276 --> 00:46:15,676
our objective design standards

635
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,820
to give more flexibility. So

636
00:46:19,820 --> 00:46:20,550
basically it's it's difficult

637
00:46:20,550 --> 00:46:22,352
to understand. Ultimately the

638
00:46:22,352 --> 00:46:23,787
design is based on the code

639
00:46:23,787 --> 00:46:24,421
and specific minister

640
00:46:24,421 --> 00:46:25,880
requirements and then the

641
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,580
right. Is it a higher level

642
00:46:28,580 --> 00:46:29,659
and the zoning now where it's

643
00:46:29,659 --> 00:46:31,610
further complicated is that

644
00:46:31,610 --> 00:46:31,862
the state has a number of

645
00:46:31,862 --> 00:46:32,763
other provisions that will

646
00:46:32,763 --> 00:46:35,163
apply. So these allowances

647
00:46:36,399 --> 00:46:39,399
start stacking on each other.

648
00:46:39,469 --> 00:46:40,637
So the example, Ms Nicholson

649
00:46:40,637 --> 00:46:42,639
provided of the subdivision

650
00:46:42,639 --> 00:46:44,607
with the home and to use you

651
00:46:44,607 --> 00:46:45,308
could do that is the property

652
00:46:45,308 --> 00:46:45,976
owner. Few meet that criteria

653
00:46:45,976 --> 00:46:48,144
because that's an allowable

654
00:46:48,144 --> 00:46:49,212
right by the state. So

655
00:46:49,212 --> 00:46:51,470
essentially what happens is

656
00:46:51,470 --> 00:46:53,283
all the start stacking is

657
00:46:53,283 --> 00:46:54,251
availability and Rick walk and

658
00:46:54,251 --> 00:46:56,153
allowances so somebody can

659
00:46:56,153 --> 00:46:58,221
build a single-family home.

660
00:46:58,221 --> 00:46:59,388
They can do. Another state

661
00:46:59,388 --> 00:47:00,900
allowed subdivision with a use

662
00:47:00,900 --> 00:47:02,125
or they could do sb 10. They

663
00:47:02,125 --> 00:47:03,326
all become options. But the

664
00:47:03,326 --> 00:47:04,194
challenge with sb 10 is

665
00:47:04,194 --> 00:47:05,610
because we don't have

666
00:47:05,610 --> 00:47:07,610
objective design standards

667
00:47:07,931 --> 00:47:09,650
that address 10 units on a lot

668
00:47:09,650 --> 00:47:11,835
that we think that going

669
00:47:11,835 --> 00:47:12,469
through that process without

670
00:47:12,469 --> 00:47:13,700
affecting those objective

671
00:47:13,700 --> 00:47:13,770
design standards, would

672
00:47:13,770 --> 00:47:16,600
prohibit the development that

673
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:17,600
we constrain it.

674
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,776
>> And then the last question

675
00:47:19,776 --> 00:47:20,444
I have is on your targeted

676
00:47:20,444 --> 00:47:21,144
implementation has stopped

677
00:47:21,144 --> 00:47:24,281
taking a look at this and the

678
00:47:24,281 --> 00:47:25,349
maps that were created to give

679
00:47:25,349 --> 00:47:27,183
us some feedback on. You do

680
00:47:27,183 --> 00:47:28,986
see maybe a few targeted areas

681
00:47:28,986 --> 00:47:31,555
that has beaten could be

682
00:47:31,555 --> 00:47:32,456
helpful for growth and housing

683
00:47:32,456 --> 00:47:36,656
or have you even begin to look

684
00:47:37,661 --> 00:47:38,362
at some of that?

685
00:47:38,362 --> 00:47:41,362
>> I let MISS Nicholson chime

686
00:47:42,632 --> 00:47:46,105
in on the analysis that we did

687
00:47:46,105 --> 00:47:49,377
yes, as I mentioned early from

688
00:47:49,377 --> 00:47:49,549
when the economic development

689
00:47:49,549 --> 00:47:49,725
slide that there there is a

690
00:47:49,725 --> 00:47:50,107
benefit to sb 10 if the

691
00:47:50,107 --> 00:47:51,742
desirous to allow 10 units

692
00:47:51,742 --> 00:47:52,876
because it creates a

693
00:47:52,876 --> 00:47:53,610
streamlined path and it

694
00:47:53,610 --> 00:47:54,844
creates it in an area where it

695
00:47:54,844 --> 00:47:56,981
is very difficult to do in

696
00:47:56,981 --> 00:47:57,614
Phil. And if you really look

697
00:47:57,614 --> 00:47:59,717
at most jurisdictions in

698
00:47:59,717 --> 00:48:00,317
Sonoma County, most of the

699
00:48:00,317 --> 00:48:00,951
growth occurred through

700
00:48:00,951 --> 00:48:02,519
single-family residential

701
00:48:02,519 --> 00:48:03,554
development. So there's a

702
00:48:03,554 --> 00:48:05,789
significant amount. And that

703
00:48:05,789 --> 00:48:07,725
is why it applies to so many

704
00:48:07,725 --> 00:48:08,625
parcels, but very similar to

705
00:48:08,625 --> 00:48:10,694
the missing middle. That was a

706
00:48:10,694 --> 00:48:12,263
very strategic approach that

707
00:48:12,263 --> 00:48:12,929
looked at the appropriate

708
00:48:12,929 --> 00:48:15,329
place. From a compatibility

709
00:48:17,340 --> 00:48:18,202
standpoint. You standpoint so

710
00:48:18,202 --> 00:48:19,737
that analysis makes sense to

711
00:48:19,737 --> 00:48:20,337
really expand the missing

712
00:48:20,337 --> 00:48:22,337
middle conversation to

713
00:48:23,574 --> 00:48:25,709
essentially become sb 10. But

714
00:48:25,709 --> 00:48:26,777
that opportunity to look at

715
00:48:26,777 --> 00:48:28,612
than a very global that close

716
00:48:28,612 --> 00:48:30,948
to transit, close to

717
00:48:30,948 --> 00:48:32,616
resources. That was a very

718
00:48:32,616 --> 00:48:33,684
surgical and specific approach

719
00:48:33,684 --> 00:48:34,284
that went through the

720
00:48:34,284 --> 00:48:34,985
consultant exercise to

721
00:48:34,985 --> 00:48:36,720
understand compatibility and

722
00:48:36,720 --> 00:48:38,956
how it fits in with other

723
00:48:38,956 --> 00:48:40,900
areas. So we have targeted

724
00:48:40,900 --> 00:48:41,250
areas where it doesn't make

725
00:48:41,250 --> 00:48:41,693
sense to increase density. And

726
00:48:41,693 --> 00:48:44,930
that's usually around where

727
00:48:44,940 --> 00:48:45,229
that infrastructure exists.

728
00:48:45,229 --> 00:48:46,300
But when you look at really

729
00:48:46,300 --> 00:48:47,164
the missing middle level of

730
00:48:47,164 --> 00:48:47,998
exercise, really, that's the

731
00:48:47,998 --> 00:48:48,632
next phase of this process

732
00:48:48,632 --> 00:48:51,632
where we would go through

733
00:48:52,336 --> 00:48:53,360
based on some parameters and

734
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:53,771
determined it makes sense in

735
00:48:53,771 --> 00:48:54,438
these areas are how do we want

736
00:48:54,438 --> 00:48:57,808
to move forward with a more

737
00:48:57,808 --> 00:48:58,509
formal policy?

738
00:48:58,509 --> 00:48:59,777
>> I know you also mentioned

739
00:48:59,777 --> 00:49:01,145
something and it was briefly

740
00:49:01,145 --> 00:49:04,145
brought up in your response

741
00:49:04,181 --> 00:49:05,383
now the increased parcel tax

742
00:49:05,383 --> 00:49:06,116
and what the city gets, which

743
00:49:06,116 --> 00:49:07,718
to my understanding is very,

744
00:49:07,718 --> 00:49:10,118
very tiny because that

745
00:49:11,550 --> 00:49:11,789
primarily goes to the county

746
00:49:11,789 --> 00:49:14,189
and economic impact on

747
00:49:14,792 --> 00:49:16,227
bringing more people. And but

748
00:49:16,227 --> 00:49:17,762
I think that's something I've

749
00:49:17,762 --> 00:49:19,263
asked and requested a few

750
00:49:19,263 --> 00:49:19,964
times before because it's hard

751
00:49:19,964 --> 00:49:20,631
for me to wrap my head around

752
00:49:20,631 --> 00:49:24,100
is what is that offset? You

753
00:49:24,100 --> 00:49:25,136
know, when we bring more

754
00:49:25,136 --> 00:49:26,604
people in more housing and how

755
00:49:26,604 --> 00:49:27,305
what is the economic impact

756
00:49:27,305 --> 00:49:28,605
that we're getting in? Can we

757
00:49:28,605 --> 00:49:31,700
get some dollars and cents

758
00:49:31,700 --> 00:49:32,243
kind of tied to that? And I

759
00:49:32,243 --> 00:49:32,944
think that's just a further

760
00:49:32,944 --> 00:49:35,120
discussion. Not today under

761
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:36,981
this specific bill, but it's

762
00:49:36,981 --> 00:49:38,549
something that goes through my

763
00:49:38,549 --> 00:49:39,550
mind all the time is how much

764
00:49:39,550 --> 00:49:40,250
paying in infrastructure.

765
00:49:40,250 --> 00:49:41,319
Public service, our parks and

766
00:49:41,319 --> 00:49:44,121
roads and streets. And then

767
00:49:44,121 --> 00:49:44,922
what do we get out of it by

768
00:49:44,922 --> 00:49:47,125
doing things like this and do

769
00:49:47,125 --> 00:49:47,725
we have the capacity to I

770
00:49:47,725 --> 00:49:49,560
think that's it for my

771
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,960
questions. Thanks. Thank you,

772
00:49:54,932 --> 00:49:55,833
Willis. Thank you,

773
00:49:55,833 --> 00:49:56,601
>> Thank you for the

774
00:49:56,601 --> 00:49:59,100
presentation. Thank you for

775
00:49:59,137 --> 00:50:02,407
going through all of this with

776
00:50:02,407 --> 00:50:05,910
this couple of I just have a

777
00:50:05,910 --> 00:50:08,910
few questions. The first one

778
00:50:11,215 --> 00:50:12,170
is about Do we? Whether do it

779
00:50:12,170 --> 00:50:15,353
ask you did come back with a

780
00:50:15,353 --> 00:50:16,354
targeted implementation or to

781
00:50:16,354 --> 00:50:19,230
do that. Sb 10. Is there a

782
00:50:19,230 --> 00:50:20,558
deadline? Because I don't know

783
00:50:20,558 --> 00:50:21,292
if I so I didn't see it in

784
00:50:21,292 --> 00:50:24,292
staff reporter. Maybe I missed

785
00:50:26,664 --> 00:50:28,660
it. Thanks for the question.

786
00:50:28,660 --> 00:50:30,335
And I realize I didn't speak

787
00:50:30,335 --> 00:50:32,737
to that as part of the

788
00:50:32,737 --> 00:50:35,137
presentation. There is a

789
00:50:35,306 --> 00:50:37,275
sunset date of JANUARY. First

790
00:50:37,275 --> 00:50:39,511
2029. So what that means is

791
00:50:39,511 --> 00:50:40,545
the city would have to adopt

792
00:50:40,545 --> 00:50:43,810
any rezoning and the rezoning

793
00:50:43,810 --> 00:50:43,715
would need to be in effect

794
00:50:43,715 --> 00:50:46,715
prior to JANUARY. So that

795
00:50:47,952 --> 00:50:48,652
would need to occur fall of at

796
00:50:48,652 --> 00:50:51,652
the latest to take advantage

797
00:50:56,661 --> 00:51:00,261
of this bill. Ok, thank you.

798
00:51:01,299 --> 00:51:05,270
That helps a And in regard to.

799
00:51:05,270 --> 00:51:06,271
Being able to bypass secret is

800
00:51:06,271 --> 00:51:07,500
the and this is just for my

801
00:51:07,500 --> 00:51:09,405
clarification is the technical

802
00:51:10,700 --> 00:51:10,709
analysis. Do we have a choice

803
00:51:10,709 --> 00:51:12,609
about doing that or not? And

804
00:51:12,609 --> 00:51:15,609
is that in place of

805
00:51:19,751 --> 00:51:20,418
environmental review. As Amy

806
00:51:20,418 --> 00:51:23,355
mentioned, seek one else is

807
00:51:23,355 --> 00:51:24,823
not required for adoption of

808
00:51:24,823 --> 00:51:26,324
an ordinance. Any project that

809
00:51:26,324 --> 00:51:27,250
would come in under that

810
00:51:27,250 --> 00:51:29,694
ordinance would be subject to

811
00:51:29,694 --> 00:51:31,694
environmental review. But

812
00:51:31,829 --> 00:51:33,310
ordinance itself, we wouldn't

813
00:51:33,310 --> 00:51:33,698
in this technical studies

814
00:51:33,698 --> 00:51:36,980
typically come through that

815
00:51:37,268 --> 00:51:39,604
sheikh Alice U.S.. So the city

816
00:51:39,604 --> 00:51:40,238
is not required to do that.

817
00:51:40,238 --> 00:51:42,238
Technical analysis. It's

818
00:51:44,342 --> 00:51:45,677
something that staff Wood

819
00:51:45,677 --> 00:51:47,479
asked the council to consider

820
00:51:47,479 --> 00:51:49,347
as if we want to move forward

821
00:51:49,347 --> 00:51:50,115
with this having that be a

822
00:51:50,115 --> 00:51:52,517
part of the review so that

823
00:51:52,517 --> 00:51:55,220
when we bring this back foot.

824
00:51:55,220 --> 00:51:57,122
>> Forward for your

825
00:51:57,122 --> 00:51:57,789
consideration. You would have

826
00:51:57,789 --> 00:51:58,924
all of the information that

827
00:51:58,924 --> 00:52:00,192
you would need to make an

828
00:52:00,192 --> 00:52:00,825
informed decision so that we

829
00:52:00,825 --> 00:52:03,225
would understand what the

830
00:52:04,396 --> 00:52:05,129
impacts are too. You know, our

831
00:52:05,129 --> 00:52:06,665
roads, our water supply, those

832
00:52:06,665 --> 00:52:09,100
things that we would normally

833
00:52:09,100 --> 00:52:11,769
look at. This is part of this,

834
00:52:11,769 --> 00:52:12,403
you water supply assessment

835
00:52:12,403 --> 00:52:13,429
because was not required.

836
00:52:13,429 --> 00:52:15,829
Water supply assessment would

837
00:52:16,375 --> 00:52:17,109
not be required. But that is

838
00:52:17,109 --> 00:52:19,111
something that typically would

839
00:52:19,111 --> 00:52:20,779
look at a particular we're

840
00:52:20,779 --> 00:52:21,480
talking about adding a density

841
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,480
beyond what the general plan

842
00:52:26,551 --> 00:52:27,252
currently allows. Just had one

843
00:52:27,252 --> 00:52:30,122
more question around. I think

844
00:52:30,122 --> 00:52:30,422
it was slide.

845
00:52:30,422 --> 00:52:32,422
>> 6.

846
00:52:35,193 --> 00:52:37,396
>> On The things that I guess

847
00:52:37,396 --> 00:52:37,929
we would do in terms planning

848
00:52:37,929 --> 00:52:39,929
and considerations.

849
00:52:40,899 --> 00:52:44,499
>> Is is this things that are

850
00:52:44,536 --> 00:52:45,700
listed the neighborhood.

851
00:52:45,700 --> 00:52:45,770
>> Infrastructure,

852
00:52:45,770 --> 00:52:47,539
environmental We just talked

853
00:52:47,539 --> 00:52:49,474
about transit.

854
00:52:49,474 --> 00:52:51,810
>> Access and walkability. All

855
00:52:51,810 --> 00:52:52,577
those things. We would still

856
00:52:52,577 --> 00:52:54,780
go through that process for

857
00:52:54,780 --> 00:52:56,780
every project or

858
00:53:03,722 --> 00:53:05,722
>> is that choice?

859
00:53:09,519 --> 00:53:11,919
>> These are not required

860
00:53:21,221 --> 00:53:21,535
under the bill, but they are.

861
00:53:21,535 --> 00:53:21,773
>> Are considerations that are

862
00:53:21,773 --> 00:53:22,600
typical of any sort of large

863
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:22,271
policy effort like this. And

864
00:53:22,271 --> 00:53:22,499
when we think about the

865
00:53:22,499 --> 00:53:22,695
general plan how it assigns

866
00:53:22,695 --> 00:53:23,242
densities and in 10 cities

867
00:53:23,242 --> 00:53:24,510
across the city, reviewing

868
00:53:24,510 --> 00:53:27,510
those changes through the lens

869
00:53:28,347 --> 00:53:29,140
that are on the slide. So the

870
00:53:29,140 --> 00:53:30,282
environmental impacts that

871
00:53:30,282 --> 00:53:31,830
would typically be done with

872
00:53:31,830 --> 00:53:32,551
see quiet could still be done

873
00:53:32,551 --> 00:53:35,551
as part of this process,

874
00:53:35,721 --> 00:53:37,756
although not state mandated.

875
00:53:37,756 --> 00:53:40,250
But we would also want to look

876
00:53:40,250 --> 00:53:42,861
at all of the other plans that

877
00:53:42,861 --> 00:53:43,562
are in place in the city like

878
00:53:43,562 --> 00:53:45,464
our general plan and how this

879
00:53:45,464 --> 00:53:48,464
aligns with the growth plan

880
00:53:48,534 --> 00:53:49,935
there. We want to consider how

881
00:53:49,935 --> 00:53:50,636
any housing policy is

882
00:53:50,636 --> 00:53:52,636
affirmatively furthering fair

883
00:53:52,638 --> 00:53:55,638
housing. So looking at it

884
00:53:55,741 --> 00:53:56,442
being applied in MAY be

885
00:53:56,442 --> 00:53:58,900
geographically diverse parts

886
00:53:58,900 --> 00:54:01,609
of the city. So these would

887
00:54:02,481 --> 00:54:04,783
all be suggestions for the

888
00:54:04,783 --> 00:54:05,450
council to provide feedback on

889
00:54:05,450 --> 00:54:06,719
and sort of best practices.

890
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:10,122
When we look at policy efforts

891
00:54:10,122 --> 00:54:11,857
like this. Ok, thank you.

892
00:54:11,857 --> 00:54:15,457
That's all I have for now.

893
00:54:15,795 --> 00:54:16,462
Thank you, MR. Alvarez.

894
00:54:16,462 --> 00:54:18,862
>> Only my question's been

895
00:54:22,767 --> 00:54:23,803
answered.

896
00:54:23,803 --> 00:54:26,203
>> that a combination of

897
00:54:29,241 --> 00:54:30,376
questions in feedback. The one

898
00:54:30,376 --> 00:54:31,110
question I have that hasn't

899
00:54:31,110 --> 00:54:34,110
addressed is how difficult it

900
00:54:34,747 --> 00:54:37,147
would be to have.

901
00:54:38,490 --> 00:54:38,751
>> This applied to areas that

902
00:54:38,751 --> 00:54:41,453
avoid the flood, put the maps

903
00:54:41,453 --> 00:54:44,156
which will come out from other

904
00:54:44,156 --> 00:54:45,558
jurisdictions in the future.

905
00:54:45,558 --> 00:54:46,559
And can we adapt this? So if

906
00:54:46,559 --> 00:54:47,660
we're going to do this over

907
00:54:47,660 --> 00:54:48,327
the summer where we have the

908
00:54:48,327 --> 00:54:51,230
flood maps at that point so

909
00:54:51,230 --> 00:54:51,864
that we got further dent of

910
00:54:51,864 --> 00:54:54,264
fighting areas which MAY

911
00:54:57,436 --> 00:54:58,104
flood.

912
00:54:58,104 --> 00:55:00,539
>> Yes, happy to help with

913
00:55:00,539 --> 00:55:01,206
that question. Typically the

914
00:55:01,206 --> 00:55:03,206
floodplain requirements as

915
00:55:04,777 --> 00:55:05,411
they relate to new buildings

916
00:55:05,411 --> 00:55:06,112
are construction apply to

917
00:55:06,112 --> 00:55:07,312
anything that pose a building

918
00:55:07,312 --> 00:55:09,282
permit after the adoption of

919
00:55:09,282 --> 00:55:10,916
that. And we have a number of

920
00:55:10,916 --> 00:55:12,916
regulations that affect

921
00:55:13,190 --> 00:55:15,870
development that occurs in a

922
00:55:15,870 --> 00:55:17,487
flood plain. And typically

923
00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:19,192
what that requires is that the

924
00:55:19,192 --> 00:55:21,828
finished floor or the final

925
00:55:21,828 --> 00:55:22,462
floor that people live on is

926
00:55:22,462 --> 00:55:24,564
raised above the flood

927
00:55:24,564 --> 00:55:25,731
elevation or the anticipated

928
00:55:25,731 --> 00:55:27,734
fight elevation. And there's

929
00:55:27,734 --> 00:55:29,335
also measures put in place

930
00:55:29,335 --> 00:55:30,690
with the structure to ensure

931
00:55:30,690 --> 00:55:31,370
that water is not displaced to

932
00:55:31,370 --> 00:55:33,306
make the flooding were

933
00:55:33,306 --> 00:55:34,440
somewhere else. So those

934
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:35,740
requirements exist in any sb

935
00:55:35,740 --> 00:55:35,775
10 units would have to go

936
00:55:35,775 --> 00:55:38,175
through same requirements at

937
00:55:38,678 --> 00:55:40,120
building permit.

938
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:40,713
>> right. I guess what I'm

939
00:55:40,713 --> 00:55:41,714
getting at is that I think we

940
00:55:41,714 --> 00:55:44,714
have flood maps that are

941
00:55:46,152 --> 00:55:46,852
coming and so I'd the only,

942
00:55:46,852 --> 00:55:49,252
frankly, the only trepidation

943
00:55:49,923 --> 00:55:50,623
I have around this is

944
00:55:50,623 --> 00:55:51,357
permitting something now that

945
00:55:51,357 --> 00:55:55,127
we find out is in a flood zone

946
00:55:55,127 --> 00:55:55,862
in the near future. And that,

947
00:55:55,862 --> 00:55:56,563
you know, I'm in support of us

948
00:55:56,563 --> 00:55:59,599
doing this. I'm in support of

949
00:55:59,599 --> 00:56:00,266
its doing this and then the

950
00:56:00,266 --> 00:56:00,933
timeline which accounts for

951
00:56:00,933 --> 00:56:03,168
the new flood maps or which

952
00:56:03,168 --> 00:56:03,870
incorporates them but doesn't

953
00:56:03,870 --> 00:56:07,470
further dense of I areas that

954
00:56:07,540 --> 00:56:09,575
are prone to disaster, that

955
00:56:09,575 --> 00:56:10,609
that's my only concern. And I

956
00:56:10,609 --> 00:56:11,544
think that, you know, given

957
00:56:11,544 --> 00:56:12,345
everything that's on your

958
00:56:12,345 --> 00:56:13,980
plate, it's fantastic that

959
00:56:13,980 --> 00:56:14,681
this came is gonna go directly

960
00:56:14,681 --> 00:56:18,118
into my comments here and say

961
00:56:18,118 --> 00:56:20,860
that. Couple days ago I was

962
00:56:20,860 --> 00:56:20,652
reading in The New York Times

963
00:56:20,652 --> 00:56:23,520
the top 8 things that

964
00:56:23,289 --> 00:56:24,240
Democrats can do with their

965
00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:26,760
house leadership in the number

966
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:27,427
one thing was to pave the way

967
00:56:27,427 --> 00:56:29,950
for more housing across the

968
00:56:29,950 --> 00:56:31,364
United States Senate. In this

969
00:56:31,364 --> 00:56:34,364
analysis, it said that. If

970
00:56:35,350 --> 00:56:35,702
just New York and the San

971
00:56:35,702 --> 00:56:37,369
Francisco Bay Area were to

972
00:56:37,369 --> 00:56:40,369
produce enough housing to meet

973
00:56:40,540 --> 00:56:41,207
the demand the entire economic

974
00:56:41,207 --> 00:56:43,543
output of the United States

975
00:56:43,543 --> 00:56:45,545
would rise by 4%. And so I

976
00:56:45,545 --> 00:56:47,447
think for a council that so

977
00:56:47,447 --> 00:56:48,181
concerned about economic

978
00:56:48,181 --> 00:56:49,749
development, this is something

979
00:56:49,749 --> 00:56:50,616
that we can do it in time.

980
00:56:50,616 --> 00:56:51,318
We're not building a lot of

981
00:56:51,318 --> 00:56:52,510
housing because of the costs

982
00:56:52,510 --> 00:56:55,651
of materials and money and all

983
00:56:55,655 --> 00:56:57,591
the other factors to pave the

984
00:56:57,591 --> 00:56:59,125
way for future development

985
00:56:59,125 --> 00:57:01,125
when conditions economic

986
00:57:02,162 --> 00:57:03,463
conditions change. And so, you

987
00:57:03,463 --> 00:57:05,650
know to that and you know, my

988
00:57:05,650 --> 00:57:05,732
concerns around seek we're not

989
00:57:05,732 --> 00:57:07,330
really high around in full

990
00:57:07,330 --> 00:57:09,169
development as long as we're

991
00:57:09,169 --> 00:57:11,569
not and filling in

992
00:57:12,500 --> 00:57:12,839
disaster-prone areas. Most

993
00:57:12,839 --> 00:57:13,540
sequel lawsuits that I've seen

994
00:57:13,540 --> 00:57:15,508
an infill areas of nothing to

995
00:57:15,508 --> 00:57:17,344
do with environmental

996
00:57:17,344 --> 00:57:18,100
concerns. And so I think that

997
00:57:18,100 --> 00:57:18,745
this is a great opportunity

998
00:57:18,745 --> 00:57:22,182
for us to move forward pave

999
00:57:22,182 --> 00:57:24,885
the way for transit oriented

1000
00:57:24,885 --> 00:57:26,219
growth when the time is right.

1001
00:57:26,219 --> 00:57:28,287
i'm fully supportive of you.

1002
00:57:28,287 --> 00:57:29,220
Waiting till summer, using

1003
00:57:29,220 --> 00:57:32,220
consultant time either is fine

1004
00:57:32,580 --> 00:57:34,194
with me. Whatever you need. To

1005
00:57:34,194 --> 00:57:36,463
do to get this done. I think

1006
00:57:36,463 --> 00:57:37,898
that we'll be better for it.

1007
00:57:37,898 --> 00:57:38,699
And I think that, you know,

1008
00:57:38,699 --> 00:57:40,567
while it MAY seem done, a lot

1009
00:57:40,567 --> 00:57:44,167
of things that the stacking of

1010
00:57:44,604 --> 00:57:45,305
things is going eventually pay

1011
00:57:45,305 --> 00:57:46,600
dividends for our community.

1012
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,808
And the last is just that we

1013
00:57:48,808 --> 00:57:50,143
do have 5 year water plans. We

1014
00:57:50,143 --> 00:57:51,210
do have all kinds building

1015
00:57:51,210 --> 00:57:54,810
code reviews they get done and

1016
00:57:55,482 --> 00:57:57,250
that while this could pave the

1017
00:57:57,250 --> 00:57:57,951
way for many, many units. The

1018
00:57:57,951 --> 00:58:00,987
reality is that will pave the

1019
00:58:00,987 --> 00:58:01,622
way for a few units and that

1020
00:58:01,622 --> 00:58:03,857
rate of change will will

1021
00:58:03,857 --> 00:58:06,359
increase maybe a tiny bit. We

1022
00:58:06,359 --> 00:58:09,620
had I thought you said 18

1023
00:58:09,620 --> 00:58:11,198
Holmes pulled permits or

1024
00:58:11,198 --> 00:58:13,330
requests for sb 9. I mean,

1025
00:58:13,330 --> 00:58:14,268
it's not like these things

1026
00:58:14,268 --> 00:58:14,967
happen in gigantic scale. Like

1027
00:58:14,967 --> 00:58:17,370
we have to chip away and chip

1028
00:58:17,370 --> 00:58:19,172
away into way. But that I

1029
00:58:19,172 --> 00:58:21,572
think that our regular

1030
00:58:22,242 --> 00:58:23,900
processees can absorb the rate

1031
00:58:23,900 --> 00:58:24,878
of change that I expect from

1032
00:58:24,878 --> 00:58:27,278
sb 10 implementation and that

1033
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,320
we probably can't do it soon.

1034
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:34,210
Enough. Into care. Thank you.

1035
00:58:34,210 --> 00:58:35,422
Just one question for me. So

1036
00:58:35,422 --> 00:58:39,220
this was signed into law in

1037
00:58:40,794 --> 00:58:41,895
SEPTEMBER of 2021, correct?

1038
00:58:41,895 --> 00:58:43,831
>> So since then, can you

1039
00:58:43,831 --> 00:58:44,530
speak to the consideration and

1040
00:58:44,530 --> 00:58:45,650
adoption of this Senate bill

1041
00:58:45,650 --> 00:58:47,465
across the state of

1042
00:58:51,380 --> 00:58:51,972
California?

1043
00:58:51,972 --> 00:58:53,941
>> Certainly, thanks for the

1044
00:58:53,941 --> 00:58:55,876
question. So, yes, as we

1045
00:58:55,876 --> 00:58:57,311
understand the city of San

1046
00:58:57,311 --> 00:58:57,945
Diego did look into this as

1047
00:58:57,945 --> 00:58:59,446
part of a larger housing

1048
00:58:59,446 --> 00:59:01,480
package that they were moving

1049
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:01,715
forward. Ultimately, they

1050
00:59:01,715 --> 00:59:03,918
decided not to move forward

1051
00:59:03,918 --> 00:59:06,318
with a speech and

1052
00:59:06,853 --> 00:59:09,253
implementation and to after

1053
00:59:10,991 --> 00:59:12,326
talking to hcd. As we

1054
00:59:12,326 --> 00:59:14,930
understand it, there's only

1055
00:59:14,930 --> 00:59:16,630
been one jurisdiction thus far

1056
00:59:16,630 --> 00:59:16,764
in the state that has taken

1057
00:59:16,764 --> 00:59:17,431
advantage and adopted it. And

1058
00:59:17,431 --> 00:59:19,633
it is a small jurisdiction

1059
00:59:19,633 --> 00:59:21,502
just south of San Jose in a

1060
00:59:21,502 --> 00:59:24,502
place to 2 parcels within that

1061
00:59:25,239 --> 00:59:26,400
jurisdiction. We do know some

1062
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:26,674
of the local jurisdictions

1063
00:59:26,674 --> 00:59:28,509
here in Sonoma County are

1064
00:59:28,509 --> 00:59:30,544
looking into, including the

1065
00:59:30,544 --> 00:59:31,279
county itself. But as of none

1066
00:59:31,279 --> 00:59:34,879
of them have move forward with

1067
00:59:40,354 --> 00:59:40,988
implementation. MR. Rogers.

1068
00:59:40,988 --> 00:59:42,988
Thank you.

1069
00:59:43,457 --> 00:59:46,527
>> So I am I'm looking used to

1070
00:59:46,527 --> 00:59:48,128
it pro-housing. I think the

1071
00:59:48,128 --> 00:59:50,698
housing is great. I also think

1072
00:59:50,698 --> 00:59:51,632
that it is great for

1073
00:59:51,632 --> 00:59:52,300
developers in.

1074
00:59:52,300 --> 00:59:54,700
>> Property owners to have

1075
00:59:54,735 --> 00:59:55,670
tools in their tool box.

1076
00:59:55,670 --> 00:59:58,670
>> But I'm wondering how this

1077
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,608
will rise above the rest and

1078
01:00:04,945 --> 01:00:06,120
allowing a people to develop

1079
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,349
parcels that the current tools

1080
01:00:08,349 --> 01:00:11,451
we have will not allow them to

1081
01:00:11,451 --> 01:00:14,422
do so. For me, I don't feel

1082
01:00:14,422 --> 01:00:17,240
like I've really heard. That

1083
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,527
yet. And so I'm leaning

1084
01:00:19,527 --> 01:00:20,495
towards the the No further act

1085
01:00:20,495 --> 01:00:22,895
shooting because I don't

1086
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:25,967
really see how. Implementing

1087
01:00:25,967 --> 01:00:26,667
this. I see that it's going to

1088
01:00:26,667 --> 01:00:30,400
be a lot of staff time. I see

1089
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:30,705
that it's going to take.

1090
01:00:30,705 --> 01:00:33,173
>> Money to implement. And I

1091
01:00:33,173 --> 01:00:34,609
see those things.

1092
01:00:34,609 --> 01:00:35,343
>> But when we look at the

1093
01:00:35,343 --> 01:00:37,311
current tools that we have, we

1094
01:00:37,311 --> 01:00:39,470
look at how many people have

1095
01:00:39,470 --> 01:00:40,448
utilized the current tools

1096
01:00:40,448 --> 01:00:43,217
that we have available for

1097
01:00:43,217 --> 01:00:45,217
developers and property

1098
01:00:46,154 --> 01:00:47,322
owners. I'm not really seeing

1099
01:00:47,322 --> 01:00:49,891
how it will, the impact it

1100
01:00:49,891 --> 01:00:50,625
will have. And I did hear

1101
01:00:50,625 --> 01:00:53,250
Councilmember Fleming say that

1102
01:00:54,228 --> 01:00:57,865
it is the slow process, but I

1103
01:00:57,865 --> 01:00:58,633
also want to make sure that if

1104
01:00:58,633 --> 01:01:01,633
we're investing in tools that

1105
01:01:02,470 --> 01:01:03,370
these tools will actually be

1106
01:01:03,370 --> 01:01:04,238
used and not just sit

1107
01:01:04,238 --> 01:01:06,741
somewhere in a tool box press

1108
01:01:06,741 --> 01:01:10,612
to but we have this tool that

1109
01:01:10,612 --> 01:01:11,346
is not going to ever the use

1110
01:01:11,346 --> 01:01:13,746
that we've invested time

1111
01:01:15,216 --> 01:01:17,952
monetary. Things that we could

1112
01:01:17,952 --> 01:01:20,952
have been investing in other.

1113
01:01:21,122 --> 01:01:22,323
Areas. So can you please tell

1114
01:01:22,323 --> 01:01:24,359
me exactly like how this is

1115
01:01:24,359 --> 01:01:25,920
going to do something more

1116
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,692
than the tools that we already

1117
01:01:30,598 --> 01:01:31,599
have.

1118
01:01:31,599 --> 01:01:33,599
>> Yes, that's absolutely.

1119
01:01:33,601 --> 01:01:34,235
Think the challenge with sb 10

1120
01:01:34,235 --> 01:01:34,802
in particular and this is

1121
01:01:34,802 --> 01:01:35,503
likely what a lot of

1122
01:01:35,503 --> 01:01:37,503
jurisdictions have struggled

1123
01:01:38,439 --> 01:01:39,140
with a bit is the 10 unit

1124
01:01:39,140 --> 01:01:42,243
model on a parcel is not well

1125
01:01:42,243 --> 01:01:43,111
test it out. It is not a

1126
01:01:43,111 --> 01:01:44,145
common form of development.

1127
01:01:44,145 --> 01:01:46,810
Typically developers are

1128
01:01:46,810 --> 01:01:47,140
either doing single-family

1129
01:01:47,140 --> 01:01:49,818
products or they're doing your

1130
01:01:49,818 --> 01:01:51,850
accounts much greater than

1131
01:01:51,850 --> 01:01:51,820
that. So there isn't really a

1132
01:01:51,820 --> 01:01:54,820
good economic model that shows

1133
01:01:55,256 --> 01:01:57,225
the solid return on that. And

1134
01:01:57,225 --> 01:01:58,226
the state has evolved to allow

1135
01:01:58,226 --> 01:02:01,226
creative concepts with ad used

1136
01:02:03,310 --> 01:02:04,999
to get closer to the Count. We

1137
01:02:04,999 --> 01:02:06,340
do see strong desire and the

1138
01:02:06,340 --> 01:02:07,869
projects that are more

1139
01:02:07,869 --> 01:02:08,603
ministerial and by right,

1140
01:02:08,603 --> 01:02:09,870
meaning developers do not have

1141
01:02:09,870 --> 01:02:11,720
to go through the secret

1142
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:11,772
process. They move forward

1143
01:02:11,772 --> 01:02:12,440
that that is very attractive.

1144
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:16,640
And we are seeing a lot of

1145
01:02:17,245 --> 01:02:20,810
attention towards those. So by

1146
01:02:20,810 --> 01:02:20,682
zoning that allows 2 more

1147
01:02:20,682 --> 01:02:21,316
units, objective design

1148
01:02:21,316 --> 01:02:21,883
standards and more treats

1149
01:02:21,883 --> 01:02:23,883
streamlined path that

1150
01:02:23,885 --> 01:02:25,720
generally draws attention. But

1151
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,856
even in the examples of to

1152
01:02:27,856 --> 01:02:28,823
use, dealing with 18, this

1153
01:02:28,823 --> 01:02:31,223
isn't necessarily opening up

1154
01:02:31,826 --> 01:02:32,560
the floodgates. And I think

1155
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:33,328
the challenge is it can from a

1156
01:02:33,328 --> 01:02:34,362
policy standpoint, which

1157
01:02:34,362 --> 01:02:37,980
usually is what the ultimate

1158
01:02:37,980 --> 01:02:38,266
review and studies look at.

1159
01:02:38,266 --> 01:02:40,902
But we do not necessarily see

1160
01:02:40,902 --> 01:02:41,603
this being a big demand based

1161
01:02:41,603 --> 01:02:43,971
on the demand that we've seen

1162
01:02:43,971 --> 01:02:45,400
for the unit count. And

1163
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:46,975
typically when you have larger

1164
01:02:46,975 --> 01:02:47,876
parcels, you get more of a

1165
01:02:47,876 --> 01:02:48,477
return more units you build in

1166
01:02:48,477 --> 01:02:50,245
your construction costs

1167
01:02:50,245 --> 01:02:52,314
increased. But your return is

1168
01:02:52,314 --> 01:02:54,115
higher. So I really think just

1169
01:02:54,115 --> 01:02:55,517
the model, especially of a 10

1170
01:02:55,517 --> 01:02:56,218
unit, multifamily project is

1171
01:02:56,218 --> 01:02:58,286
really not tested out. Well,

1172
01:02:58,286 --> 01:02:59,521
because all new developments

1173
01:02:59,521 --> 01:03:00,155
that we've had are traditional

1174
01:03:00,155 --> 01:03:00,855
subdivisions where you're

1175
01:03:00,855 --> 01:03:02,490
creating 10, lots putting 10

1176
01:03:02,490 --> 01:03:04,426
homes on them and selling

1177
01:03:04,426 --> 01:03:05,930
them. So it's difficult to

1178
01:03:05,930 --> 01:03:07,462
understand how the industry

1179
01:03:07,462 --> 01:03:08,596
response to this. But at the

1180
01:03:08,596 --> 01:03:10,980
end of the day, it does offer

1181
01:03:10,980 --> 01:03:10,731
an additional unit density

1182
01:03:10,731 --> 01:03:13,731
that provides a bit more

1183
01:03:14,703 --> 01:03:15,303
flexibility to bump that

1184
01:03:15,303 --> 01:03:17,506
number up. And it would

1185
01:03:17,506 --> 01:03:18,206
hopefully as we go through and

1186
01:03:18,206 --> 01:03:18,907
developed a process for this,

1187
01:03:18,907 --> 01:03:19,608
would it would develop a more

1188
01:03:19,608 --> 01:03:22,800
streamlined path that attract

1189
01:03:24,413 --> 01:03:26,413
developers.

1190
01:03:29,450 --> 01:03:29,885
>> Also, I'm looking at the

1191
01:03:29,885 --> 01:03:30,618
parcel size.

1192
01:03:30,618 --> 01:03:33,618
>> density. So correct me if

1193
01:03:35,324 --> 01:03:38,627
I'm wrong, I parcel size is

1194
01:03:38,627 --> 01:03:40,627
5100 square feet. So

1195
01:03:42,431 --> 01:03:45,431
>> with this, that means that.

1196
01:03:47,302 --> 01:03:50,902
If I go according to slide 7.

1197
01:03:53,218 --> 01:03:55,618
>> That 6 units could be

1198
01:03:56,934 --> 01:03:58,514
built. Potentially on on a

1199
01:03:58,514 --> 01:03:59,214
parcel that size.

1200
01:03:59,214 --> 01:04:01,614
>> Thanks for the questions.

1201
01:04:02,850 --> 01:04:03,485
So this chart that compares

1202
01:04:03,485 --> 01:04:06,485
parcel size and number of

1203
01:04:08,457 --> 01:04:10,325
units. At and density shows

1204
01:04:10,325 --> 01:04:12,361
both kind of the maximum that

1205
01:04:12,361 --> 01:04:13,429
would be allowed under sb 10.

1206
01:04:13,429 --> 01:04:14,163
And then if the number, if the

1207
01:04:14,163 --> 01:04:15,631
council wanted to move forward

1208
01:04:15,631 --> 01:04:18,631
with, say a lower maximum,

1209
01:04:21,370 --> 01:04:22,271
like 6 units. It results in

1210
01:04:22,271 --> 01:04:24,306
lower density. So it's really

1211
01:04:24,306 --> 01:04:24,973
just showing how densities

1212
01:04:24,973 --> 01:04:27,373
impacted, depending on how

1213
01:04:27,643 --> 01:04:30,546
large the parcel size is. But

1214
01:04:30,546 --> 01:04:33,546
the bill itself doesn't set

1215
01:04:36,500 --> 01:04:37,920
4th a minimum lot size. So rod

1216
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:39,121
or kind of straightforward

1217
01:04:39,121 --> 01:04:41,521
application of sb 10 rezoning

1218
01:04:42,825 --> 01:04:43,491
could apply up to 10 units on

1219
01:04:43,491 --> 01:04:45,891
any residential parcel that

1220
01:04:45,927 --> 01:04:47,596
was shown on that map.

1221
01:04:47,596 --> 01:04:49,996
Regardless of if it's 4500

1222
01:04:51,133 --> 01:04:51,800
square feet or one acre. Okay.

1223
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,800
And with the current tools

1224
01:04:56,380 --> 01:04:57,873
that we have. Sorry, I just I

1225
01:04:57,873 --> 01:04:59,608
need to figure out why adding

1226
01:04:59,608 --> 01:05:00,242
an additional is helpful with

1227
01:05:00,242 --> 01:05:03,242
the current tools that we

1228
01:05:04,580 --> 01:05:08,180
have. How many how many units

1229
01:05:09,785 --> 01:05:14,585
can I put on? A lot? That is

1230
01:05:14,957 --> 01:05:16,957
50, 5100 square Square feet.

1231
01:05:17,393 --> 01:05:20,363
>> Coming up, pull up this.

1232
01:05:20,363 --> 01:05:22,640
State law side because I think

1233
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:23,833
it best responds. To your

1234
01:05:23,833 --> 01:05:25,833
question.

1235
01:05:26,535 --> 01:05:28,535
>> There are.

1236
01:05:30,106 --> 01:05:31,307
>> Multiple ways that.

1237
01:05:31,307 --> 01:05:33,275
Property owners can utilize

1238
01:05:33,275 --> 01:05:36,846
state bill. So this slide is

1239
01:05:36,846 --> 01:05:37,513
kind of a classic example of 2

1240
01:05:37,513 --> 01:05:40,513
of the more utilize housing

1241
01:05:40,583 --> 01:05:41,717
bills that we've seen. Could

1242
01:05:41,717 --> 01:05:44,487
play togeth. So in this

1243
01:05:44,487 --> 01:05:46,856
example, this could be a your

1244
01:05:46,856 --> 01:05:47,590
property of 5 or 6,000

1245
01:05:47,590 --> 01:05:50,590
square-foot lot. In a low

1246
01:05:51,828 --> 01:05:53,830
density part of Santa Rosa.

1247
01:05:53,830 --> 01:05:55,640
There is the option under

1248
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,900
state law right now to

1249
01:05:57,900 --> 01:06:00,900
subdivide that lot. And then

1250
01:06:01,771 --> 01:06:03,272
develop each of those lots

1251
01:06:03,272 --> 01:06:04,741
with 2 units each so 2 primary

1252
01:06:04,741 --> 01:06:08,341
and its resulting in a total

1253
01:06:08,377 --> 01:06:08,978
of 4. And then on top of that

1254
01:06:08,978 --> 01:06:10,978
to construct accessory

1255
01:06:13,816 --> 01:06:14,517
dwelling units. So that

1256
01:06:14,517 --> 01:06:16,850
graphic is showing a property

1257
01:06:16,850 --> 01:06:17,420
that if you're just looking at

1258
01:06:17,420 --> 01:06:21,200
the general plan, it MAY only

1259
01:06:21,557 --> 01:06:22,592
assume one unit, but actual

1260
01:06:22,592 --> 01:06:24,126
number of units, if you count

1261
01:06:24,126 --> 01:06:27,726
ad uses units as well, results

1262
01:06:27,931 --> 01:06:31,433
and 8. And so as charter and

1263
01:06:31,433 --> 01:06:32,101
answering that is 8 units

1264
01:06:32,101 --> 01:06:35,104
could be allowed on most of

1265
01:06:35,104 --> 01:06:35,772
these. Sb 10 eligible

1266
01:06:35,772 --> 01:06:38,172
properties and low density

1267
01:06:39,943 --> 01:06:40,643
parts of the city. Half of

1268
01:06:40,643 --> 01:06:44,243
what would be 80 use. So that

1269
01:06:44,313 --> 01:06:47,313
is a distinction. But sb 10

1270
01:06:48,685 --> 01:06:49,386
would allow for to to

1271
01:06:49,386 --> 01:06:52,210
potentially for for you. It's

1272
01:06:52,210 --> 01:06:55,591
on top of that. Depending on

1273
01:06:55,591 --> 01:06:58,591
if the council moved forward

1274
01:06:58,628 --> 01:06:59,595
with that 10 unit maximum or a

1275
01:06:59,595 --> 01:07:00,330
lower maximum for sb 10. So

1276
01:07:00,330 --> 01:07:03,930
there's a lot of variables and

1277
01:07:05,635 --> 01:07:07,971
choices here. Somebody could

1278
01:07:07,971 --> 01:07:08,705
still get a units on many low

1279
01:07:08,705 --> 01:07:11,641
density parcels with just what

1280
01:07:11,641 --> 01:07:12,375
state law says now. If the

1281
01:07:12,375 --> 01:07:13,843
council wanted to move forward

1282
01:07:13,843 --> 01:07:16,243
with sb 10, there's the

1283
01:07:18,148 --> 01:07:19,849
potential for. Potentially 2

1284
01:07:19,849 --> 01:07:22,849
to 4 additional units on top

1285
01:07:24,921 --> 01:07:26,723
of what is currently permitted

1286
01:07:26,723 --> 01:07:28,725
a lot of numbers. I don't know

1287
01:07:28,725 --> 01:07:30,827
So that might numbers. 8. And

1288
01:07:30,827 --> 01:07:35,270
I'll just say that if I woke

1289
01:07:36,399 --> 01:07:37,434
up tomorrow in my neighbor.

1290
01:07:37,434 --> 01:07:40,434
>> 6 to 10 new units on their

1291
01:07:40,503 --> 01:07:42,639
property. I don't know how how

1292
01:07:42,639 --> 01:07:46,176
happy I would be after working

1293
01:07:46,176 --> 01:07:46,876
3 jobs in order just to to

1294
01:07:46,876 --> 01:07:49,876
Biden's home in Sonoma County

1295
01:07:49,946 --> 01:07:51,180
and have that many units right

1296
01:07:51,180 --> 01:07:55,380
next to me in. In addition, I

1297
01:07:56,119 --> 01:07:56,386
don't see how implementing sb

1298
01:07:56,386 --> 01:07:58,386
10.

1299
01:08:00,230 --> 01:08:00,657
>> Would

1300
01:08:00,657 --> 01:08:03,492
>> would help if they can

1301
01:08:03,492 --> 01:08:07,920
already get a units on there.

1302
01:08:08,230 --> 01:08:08,831
I just don't see. How it is

1303
01:08:08,831 --> 01:08:10,333
helpful.

1304
01:08:10,333 --> 01:08:14,437
>> So I know we have some of

1305
01:08:14,437 --> 01:08:15,572
our housing friendly friends

1306
01:08:15,572 --> 01:08:19,172
in the audience and I really

1307
01:08:20,344 --> 01:08:21,411
would like to know like if

1308
01:08:21,411 --> 01:08:23,246
they're advocating for this,

1309
01:08:23,246 --> 01:08:25,248
how they see that it is

1310
01:08:25,248 --> 01:08:27,648
additional tool that people

1311
01:08:29,619 --> 01:08:30,654
actually use that will be

1312
01:08:30,654 --> 01:08:33,540
helpful and how our

1313
01:08:34,792 --> 01:08:36,792
neighborhoods can function

1314
01:08:39,620 --> 01:08:41,462
with additional. With the

1315
01:08:42,980 --> 01:08:42,799
additional density some of our

1316
01:08:42,799 --> 01:08:44,670
neighborhoods with that will

1317
01:08:44,670 --> 01:08:46,236
look like when we look at

1318
01:08:46,236 --> 01:08:49,172
public safety, when we look at

1319
01:08:49,172 --> 01:08:50,700
parking and I know that we say

1320
01:08:50,700 --> 01:08:50,707
that everyone does it mean

1321
01:08:50,707 --> 01:08:53,707
parking, but the reality is,

1322
01:08:56,380 --> 01:08:57,381
is that we have not moved far

1323
01:08:57,381 --> 01:08:58,682
enough from a place where

1324
01:08:58,682 --> 01:08:59,216
people are not car dependent

1325
01:08:59,216 --> 01:09:01,216
because our public

1326
01:09:01,951 --> 01:09:04,951
transportation is not at a

1327
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:07,570
place where it can sustained a

1328
01:09:07,570 --> 01:09:09,457
lot of people's daily

1329
01:09:10,928 --> 01:09:14,164
routines. I for one tried it.

1330
01:09:14,164 --> 01:09:16,856
But the know driving and I

1331
01:09:16,856 --> 01:09:19,256
really cannot figure out

1332
01:09:19,837 --> 01:09:21,237
figure out my schedule about

1333
01:09:21,237 --> 01:09:23,240
how to get the kids to school,

1334
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:24,208
how to get to work and then

1335
01:09:24,208 --> 01:09:27,811
how to get to that meeting and

1336
01:09:27,811 --> 01:09:29,460
how to do all of this by

1337
01:09:29,460 --> 01:09:30,647
taking public transportation.

1338
01:09:30,647 --> 01:09:31,281
So for me, there's just a lot

1339
01:09:31,281 --> 01:09:34,881
more to it. And I'm just

1340
01:09:34,952 --> 01:09:35,986
trying to make it all makes

1341
01:09:35,986 --> 01:09:39,586
sense. But it seems like we

1342
01:09:39,823 --> 01:09:41,191
have adequate tools right now

1343
01:09:41,191 --> 01:09:41,892
to help developers and

1344
01:09:41,892 --> 01:09:44,892
property owners if they would

1345
01:09:45,863 --> 01:09:47,797
like to add additional units.

1346
01:09:47,797 --> 01:09:51,997
I do see how sb would be

1347
01:09:53,537 --> 01:09:54,437
helpful. I'm always up to here

1348
01:09:54,437 --> 01:09:55,139
how it would be helpful. I

1349
01:09:55,139 --> 01:09:57,975
guess that's what I'm asking

1350
01:09:57,975 --> 01:09:58,675
is I am saying make it make

1351
01:09:58,675 --> 01:10:02,275
sense to me because right now

1352
01:10:03,948 --> 01:10:04,314
it doesn't. Thank you MISS

1353
01:10:04,314 --> 01:10:05,149
Running.

1354
01:10:05,149 --> 01:10:07,651
>> Yeah, I think that if we

1355
01:10:07,651 --> 01:10:09,860
had adequate tools, we would

1356
01:10:09,860 --> 01:10:10,540
have adequate housing. I do

1357
01:10:10,540 --> 01:10:11,188
acknowledge that there are

1358
01:10:11,188 --> 01:10:11,956
things that are beyond the

1359
01:10:11,956 --> 01:10:12,623
scope of the city of Santa

1360
01:10:12,623 --> 01:10:15,726
Rosa. But this is one thing

1361
01:10:15,726 --> 01:10:16,460
that we can do and I do hear

1362
01:10:16,460 --> 01:10:18,362
staff saying that there is

1363
01:10:18,362 --> 01:10:19,296
some time this summer. So I

1364
01:10:19,296 --> 01:10:22,896
think that if there is time

1365
01:10:23,334 --> 01:10:26,671
that adding one more tool to

1366
01:10:26,671 --> 01:10:27,672
the toolbox is is hardly a

1367
01:10:27,672 --> 01:10:28,405
harmful thing. There's one

1368
01:10:28,405 --> 01:10:32,500
there's one if you could speak

1369
01:10:32,276 --> 01:10:34,779
to a little around sb 9 around

1370
01:10:34,779 --> 01:10:35,446
owner occupant requirements.

1371
01:10:35,446 --> 01:10:39,460
Is there and are there any

1372
01:10:41,819 --> 01:10:43,753
regulations in there? So state

1373
01:10:43,753 --> 01:10:45,223
law requires that applicants

1374
01:10:45,223 --> 01:10:48,223
when they submit their sb 9

1375
01:10:48,826 --> 01:10:49,894
application that they

1376
01:10:49,894 --> 01:10:52,196
>> agree to stay on the

1377
01:10:52,196 --> 01:10:53,197
property for 3 years following

1378
01:10:53,197 --> 01:10:56,197
the approval of their project.

1379
01:10:56,801 --> 01:10:58,690
It does not mandate it, but

1380
01:10:58,690 --> 01:11:00,705
that's it's an affidavit that

1381
01:11:00,705 --> 01:11:01,605
they signed that saying that

1382
01:11:01,605 --> 01:11:03,941
they will consider living on

1383
01:11:03,941 --> 01:11:04,642
site for 3 years.

1384
01:11:04,642 --> 01:11:08,242
>> You know why? That is the

1385
01:11:10,181 --> 01:11:11,749
way that it is. I do not okay.

1386
01:11:11,749 --> 01:11:14,749
And those sb 9 units require

1387
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:17,655
that their detached my

1388
01:11:17,655 --> 01:11:19,490
understanding that sb 10 units

1389
01:11:19,490 --> 01:11:22,490
could be multi-family where as

1390
01:11:24,929 --> 01:11:26,929
sb are 80 use.

1391
01:11:26,931 --> 01:11:29,660
>> Never sb 9. You have 2

1392
01:11:29,660 --> 01:11:30,301
primary units and and then you

1393
01:11:30,301 --> 01:11:33,971
can have to use on top of that

1394
01:11:33,971 --> 01:11:34,605
if you wanted to

1395
01:11:34,605 --> 01:11:37,500
>> and sb 10 differs from

1396
01:11:39,577 --> 01:11:42,480
that. In what way? So would be

1397
01:11:42,480 --> 01:11:43,648
units to use, but just 10

1398
01:11:43,648 --> 01:11:45,350
units allowed on a lot and

1399
01:11:45,350 --> 01:11:45,984
they could be cottage course

1400
01:11:45,984 --> 01:11:48,252
they can be multi-family.

1401
01:11:48,252 --> 01:11:48,619
could be any combination

1402
01:11:48,619 --> 01:11:50,619
thereof.

1403
01:11:50,788 --> 01:11:53,725
>> Correct. So it sounds to me

1404
01:11:53,725 --> 01:11:54,192
like it a significantly

1405
01:11:54,192 --> 01:11:54,926
different tool.

1406
01:11:54,926 --> 01:11:56,661
>> One would be like if I have

1407
01:11:56,661 --> 01:11:58,129
a large lot and I want lot

1408
01:11:58,129 --> 01:11:58,863
split and whatever and others

1409
01:11:58,863 --> 01:12:00,298
from the developer looking at

1410
01:12:00,298 --> 01:12:00,965
an undeveloped or a

1411
01:12:00,965 --> 01:12:02,965
potentially, you know,

1412
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:05,136
recapitalize double lot, but

1413
01:12:05,136 --> 01:12:06,304
I'd be coming in and looking

1414
01:12:06,304 --> 01:12:10,504
at that. Is that sort of the

1415
01:12:21,152 --> 01:12:23,152
difference between these 2?

1416
01:12:24,923 --> 01:12:25,857
>> Yes, I think Senate Bill 10

1417
01:12:25,857 --> 01:12:26,424
because it's so brief. It

1418
01:12:26,424 --> 01:12:29,424
provides for a lot of

1419
01:12:30,161 --> 01:12:30,862
flexibility. So there's not

1420
01:12:30,862 --> 01:12:31,796
there's very few requirements

1421
01:12:31,796 --> 01:12:33,665
in the bill outside of the

1422
01:12:33,665 --> 01:12:35,834
location, all criteria where,

1423
01:12:35,834 --> 01:12:38,234
as you mentioned, that

1424
01:12:38,603 --> 01:12:40,505
property owner or developer

1425
01:12:40,505 --> 01:12:42,707
could choose to move forward

1426
01:12:42,707 --> 01:12:43,808
and build up a project in

1427
01:12:43,808 --> 01:12:45,808
various configurations, right?

1428
01:12:46,378 --> 01:12:49,180
Whereas sb 9, is a bit more

1429
01:12:49,180 --> 01:12:50,348
restrictive and how and how

1430
01:12:50,348 --> 01:12:51,549
it's written? Right? Remember

1431
01:12:51,549 --> 01:12:53,150
looking at this once because I

1432
01:12:53,150 --> 01:12:54,520
have a big lot. And at you

1433
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:56,187
know, you'd have to split it

1434
01:12:56,187 --> 01:12:56,888
and you have to do that. The

1435
01:12:56,888 --> 01:12:57,589
aid you in this order in that

1436
01:12:57,589 --> 01:12:58,289
order. And what I like about

1437
01:12:58,289 --> 01:13:00,158
sb 10 is that it's just sort

1438
01:13:00,158 --> 01:13:02,158
of a blanket.

1439
01:13:02,327 --> 01:13:03,261
>> Opportunity to build up to

1440
01:13:03,261 --> 01:13:04,195
10 units doesn't really

1441
01:13:04,195 --> 01:13:04,930
require the order that they're

1442
01:13:04,930 --> 01:13:06,164
done and the configuration. It

1443
01:13:06,164 --> 01:13:09,164
sort of lets the market

1444
01:13:09,768 --> 01:13:10,402
determine what the right way

1445
01:13:10,402 --> 01:13:13,402
to proceed given them the

1446
01:13:13,438 --> 01:13:16,208
conditions at that time. I

1447
01:13:16,208 --> 01:13:19,208
don't have any more questions.

1448
01:13:20,450 --> 01:13:21,113
Thank you, MR. Donald.

1449
01:13:21,113 --> 01:13:23,810
>> I just have a quick

1450
01:13:23,810 --> 01:13:24,382
follow-up question. As far as

1451
01:13:24,382 --> 01:13:25,116
like say, I live in the

1452
01:13:25,116 --> 01:13:27,116
neighborhood. Have 6500 square

1453
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:29,521
foot ladder had a smaller one.

1454
01:13:29,521 --> 01:13:33,721
Does sb 10 and say you can put

1455
01:13:34,392 --> 01:13:36,360
a 10 story building, you know,

1456
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:37,696
in their back yard, like build

1457
01:13:37,696 --> 01:13:38,396
an apartment complex. Is there

1458
01:13:38,396 --> 01:13:41,396
some flex like you're saying

1459
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:42,467
there's a lot of flexibility.

1460
01:13:42,467 --> 01:13:43,101
Would allow something like

1461
01:13:43,101 --> 01:13:46,571
that in the middle of the

1462
01:13:46,571 --> 01:13:47,239
neighborhood. If you met that

1463
01:13:47,239 --> 01:13:47,906
standard to say, I can just

1464
01:13:47,906 --> 01:13:50,906
put my own little apartment

1465
01:13:51,510 --> 01:13:54,510
complex right behind the home.

1466
01:13:55,814 --> 01:13:57,849
That's a great question. So if

1467
01:13:57,849 --> 01:13:58,483
we move forward with sb 10

1468
01:13:58,483 --> 01:14:00,352
implementation and didn't

1469
01:14:00,352 --> 01:14:02,321
touch our development or

1470
01:14:02,321 --> 01:14:02,954
design standards. Any

1471
01:14:02,954 --> 01:14:05,230
development would need to

1472
01:14:05,230 --> 01:14:08,230
comply with what the existing

1473
01:14:08,159 --> 01:14:09,694
standards are, which in most

1474
01:14:09,694 --> 01:14:10,429
of are lower density

1475
01:14:10,429 --> 01:14:13,429
neighborhoods is a high lament

1476
01:14:15,167 --> 01:14:17,636
of 35 feet. Presents a bit of

1477
01:14:17,636 --> 01:14:19,404
a challenge. If we want to get

1478
01:14:19,404 --> 01:14:20,672
up to 10 units because in some

1479
01:14:20,672 --> 01:14:22,730
cases you would need to build

1480
01:14:22,730 --> 01:14:23,642
up the lot sizes smaller. So

1481
01:14:23,642 --> 01:14:24,376
that would be something we

1482
01:14:24,376 --> 01:14:27,976
want to explore just to ensure

1483
01:14:28,130 --> 01:14:30,382
that. If there is additional

1484
01:14:30,382 --> 01:14:33,382
capacity, it can be realized

1485
01:14:35,374 --> 01:14:37,774
while also considering the

1486
01:14:38,851 --> 01:14:39,154
surrounding development. Think

1487
01:14:39,154 --> 01:14:41,420
that's my concern around the

1488
01:14:41,420 --> 01:14:41,308
blanket that there's a lot of

1489
01:14:41,308 --> 01:14:41,540
design standards that would

1490
01:14:41,540 --> 01:14:41,803
have to be considered a lot of

1491
01:14:41,803 --> 01:14:43,803
development standards that

1492
01:14:43,929 --> 01:14:44,563
have to be considered because

1493
01:14:44,563 --> 01:14:46,865
the the language in sb 10

1494
01:14:46,865 --> 01:14:50,465
seems so broad that the staff

1495
01:14:50,602 --> 01:14:51,570
time that's required on these

1496
01:14:51,570 --> 01:14:53,405
little pockets of places that

1497
01:14:53,405 --> 01:14:56,405
potentially want to add more

1498
01:14:56,475 --> 01:14:57,743
units. It's going to require

1499
01:14:57,743 --> 01:15:00,412
that staff time of carving out

1500
01:15:00,412 --> 01:15:02,214
if we did somewhat of a

1501
01:15:02,214 --> 01:15:04,149
blanket type adoption for sb

1502
01:15:04,149 --> 01:15:07,118
10, which to me sounds like a

1503
01:15:07,118 --> 01:15:08,620
nightmare based on the 72% of

1504
01:15:08,620 --> 01:15:11,620
lots. That could actually have

1505
01:15:12,992 --> 01:15:14,860
this happen. So. I have

1506
01:15:14,860 --> 01:15:15,628
concerns over the capacity of

1507
01:15:15,628 --> 01:15:16,595
of what we would be trying to

1508
01:15:16,595 --> 01:15:18,995
achieve. I agree with

1509
01:15:19,831 --> 01:15:20,799
Councilmember Rogers that I'm

1510
01:15:20,799 --> 01:15:24,336
not sure what more this adds

1511
01:15:24,336 --> 01:15:25,871
right now to us. My

1512
01:15:25,871 --> 01:15:28,871
understanding is if adopt a

1513
01:15:29,842 --> 01:15:32,242
blanket sb 10, there's no

1514
01:15:33,345 --> 01:15:34,460
going back because if we know

1515
01:15:34,460 --> 01:15:37,460
we don't know the unintended

1516
01:15:37,483 --> 01:15:38,451
consequences to it, that if we

1517
01:15:38,451 --> 01:15:40,920
do it, we're stuck with it.

1518
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:41,553
And there's it doesn't matter

1519
01:15:41,553 --> 01:15:42,254
how much it impacts are.

1520
01:15:42,254 --> 01:15:44,254
Neighborhoods doesn't matter

1521
01:15:45,291 --> 01:15:46,125
how much that it's going to,

1522
01:15:46,125 --> 01:15:47,226
you know, maybe harm public

1523
01:15:47,226 --> 01:15:49,294
safety or any of the other

1524
01:15:49,294 --> 01:15:50,495
things that we obligated to

1525
01:15:50,495 --> 01:15:54,950
do, where we have to comply

1526
01:16:02,408 --> 01:16:04,176
with that. Is that correct?

1527
01:16:04,176 --> 01:16:07,176
Yes. So any rezoning because

1528
01:16:07,513 --> 01:16:08,247
sb 10 allows for rezoning and

1529
01:16:08,247 --> 01:16:10,582
that would remain in place. It

1530
01:16:10,582 --> 01:16:12,852
would not at be allowed to be

1531
01:16:12,852 --> 01:16:16,452
sort of down zoned once that

1532
01:16:18,757 --> 01:16:21,757
action was taken. So the

1533
01:16:21,793 --> 01:16:22,929
answer yes, we do a blanket on

1534
01:16:22,929 --> 01:16:24,796
sb 10. It automatically makes

1535
01:16:24,796 --> 01:16:26,699
his re zone and there's no

1536
01:16:26,699 --> 01:16:28,768
going back and we're not

1537
01:16:28,768 --> 01:16:29,702
really sure about the

1538
01:16:29,702 --> 01:16:30,402
unintended consequences, one

1539
01:16:30,402 --> 01:16:31,104
because no jurisdictions have

1540
01:16:31,104 --> 01:16:35,273
done it really for us to be

1541
01:16:35,273 --> 01:16:36,142
able to test or study. And 2,

1542
01:16:36,142 --> 01:16:38,440
really wouldn't know how it

1543
01:16:38,440 --> 01:16:38,711
would impact Santa Rosa,

1544
01:16:38,711 --> 01:16:41,180
including our staff on how

1545
01:16:41,180 --> 01:16:41,848
we'd have to do design

1546
01:16:41,848 --> 01:16:43,848
standards my understanding

1547
01:16:45,351 --> 01:16:46,352
that part correctly. Yes, I

1548
01:16:46,352 --> 01:16:47,387
think that would be a quick

1549
01:16:47,387 --> 01:16:50,156
summary. We can't go back on

1550
01:16:50,156 --> 01:16:50,823
the rezoning. So once that's

1551
01:16:50,823 --> 01:16:53,593
done there is on for the 10

1552
01:16:53,593 --> 01:16:54,327
units. If it is done broadly

1553
01:16:54,327 --> 01:16:55,361
than that does not provide the

1554
01:16:55,361 --> 01:16:56,950
opportunity to analyze the

1555
01:16:56,950 --> 01:16:57,263
impacts of those 10 units that

1556
01:16:57,263 --> 01:16:59,663
the more local level.

1557
01:17:01,801 --> 01:17:04,300
>> Thank you. Thank you. Any

1558
01:17:04,300 --> 01:17:07,300
of the questions and council.

1559
01:17:08,174 --> 01:17:11,174
I was good conversation. Let's

1560
01:17:11,177 --> 01:17:11,877
go to public comment. If you

1561
01:17:11,877 --> 01:17:12,512
require names in some of call

1562
01:17:12,512 --> 01:17:13,212
to names, let's use both

1563
01:17:13,212 --> 01:17:16,249
podiums and go back and forth

1564
01:17:16,249 --> 01:17:17,784
as quickly as we can.

1565
01:17:17,784 --> 01:17:18,451
>> Our crew mistie bass Tony

1566
01:17:18,451 --> 01:17:20,919
and Omar Lopez. Let's start

1567
01:17:20,919 --> 01:17:22,880
with you. 3. And if you're in

1568
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:23,790
council chambers and wish to

1569
01:17:23,790 --> 01:17:24,490
make public comment, if you

1570
01:17:24,490 --> 01:17:25,258
could be waiting in the back

1571
01:17:25,258 --> 01:17:27,627
by one of the podium so we can

1572
01:17:27,627 --> 01:17:29,495
we can move this along. All

1573
01:17:29,495 --> 01:17:32,495
right, Marcus, at you. All

1574
01:17:33,566 --> 01:17:35,902
right. We just saw from

1575
01:17:35,902 --> 01:17:38,302
>> mayor council members, good

1576
01:17:38,738 --> 01:17:40,500
afternoon. Thank you. For

1577
01:17:40,500 --> 01:17:41,841
scheduling sb 10 Study session

1578
01:17:41,841 --> 01:17:44,100
today. My name is Mark Rutte.

1579
01:17:44,100 --> 01:17:46,813
I'm in Rosa resident and

1580
01:17:46,813 --> 01:17:47,447
someone who's wrapping up a 37

1581
01:17:47,447 --> 01:17:49,847
year career in affordable

1582
01:17:51,917 --> 01:17:54,317
housing locally. And I'm

1583
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:54,988
asking you to often does asked

1584
01:17:54,988 --> 01:17:58,391
beat him. And that also to

1585
01:17:58,391 --> 01:17:59,826
make the eligibility as the

1586
01:17:59,826 --> 01:18:00,393
amount of eligible elsewhere,

1587
01:18:00,393 --> 01:18:02,595
Eunice, as large, and

1588
01:18:02,595 --> 01:18:04,297
inclusive as possible. And I

1589
01:18:04,297 --> 01:18:07,330
have 3 reasons for asking you

1590
01:18:07,330 --> 01:18:07,667
to to go that direction today.

1591
01:18:07,667 --> 01:18:08,935
The first has been talked

1592
01:18:08,935 --> 01:18:09,703
about a little bit of the

1593
01:18:09,703 --> 01:18:11,605
council level. And I think

1594
01:18:11,605 --> 01:18:14,574
it's the most important, which

1595
01:18:14,574 --> 01:18:15,642
is sb 10 would add another

1596
01:18:15,642 --> 01:18:16,676
tool to your tool box. One

1597
01:18:16,676 --> 01:18:19,676
thing my long career in

1598
01:18:19,746 --> 01:18:20,980
housing has taught me is you

1599
01:18:20,980 --> 01:18:22,449
need lots and lots of tools in

1600
01:18:22,449 --> 01:18:23,850
your toolbox. There are so

1601
01:18:23,850 --> 01:18:25,510
many barriers, so many

1602
01:18:25,510 --> 01:18:27,870
obstacles, so many challenges

1603
01:18:27,870 --> 01:18:28,855
to getting housing any kind

1604
01:18:28,855 --> 01:18:29,522
built that you need all the

1605
01:18:29,522 --> 01:18:33,590
tools you can. So that's I

1606
01:18:33,590 --> 01:18:34,270
think the most important

1607
01:18:34,270 --> 01:18:36,270
reason. Secondly, sb 10

1608
01:18:37,497 --> 01:18:38,131
maintain growth, boundaries

1609
01:18:38,131 --> 01:18:39,799
and it would more broadly

1610
01:18:39,799 --> 01:18:40,500
facilitate city City center

1611
01:18:40,500 --> 01:18:42,502
growth. Good for the

1612
01:18:42,502 --> 01:18:43,403
environment. Good for

1613
01:18:43,403 --> 01:18:44,700
walkability and all those

1614
01:18:44,700 --> 01:18:47,390
things. I think the city is

1615
01:18:47,390 --> 01:18:48,909
trying to achieve. And 3rd, as

1616
01:18:48,909 --> 01:18:50,977
we 10 would add choices for

1617
01:18:50,977 --> 01:18:53,713
citizens. What would come out

1618
01:18:53,713 --> 01:18:54,548
of sb 10 implementation is

1619
01:18:54,548 --> 01:18:55,182
some naturally occurring

1620
01:18:55,182 --> 01:18:55,915
affordable units and that

1621
01:18:55,915 --> 01:18:58,285
offers a choice to people that

1622
01:18:58,285 --> 01:18:59,553
I think is important. And I

1623
01:18:59,553 --> 01:19:02,455
want to say, lastly, if you

1624
01:19:02,455 --> 01:19:03,523
reluctant about going first,

1625
01:19:03,523 --> 01:19:04,356
we're almost first I think I

1626
01:19:04,356 --> 01:19:06,293
heard is only one other

1627
01:19:06,293 --> 01:19:07,694
community in the state who is

1628
01:19:07,694 --> 01:19:08,495
implementing this. I would ask

1629
01:19:08,495 --> 01:19:12,950
you to refrain that this is

1630
01:19:12,398 --> 01:19:13,734
your opportunity to be bold

1631
01:19:13,734 --> 01:19:14,434
and to be brave in to be Just

1632
01:19:14,434 --> 01:19:16,834
quickly. My last 20 seconds,

1633
01:19:17,637 --> 01:19:18,505
when I words for the city of

1634
01:19:18,505 --> 01:19:20,574
Santa Rosa, as part of my

1635
01:19:20,574 --> 01:19:23,574
career, this is during the

1636
01:19:23,710 --> 01:19:25,545
early odds, number of homeless

1637
01:19:25,545 --> 01:19:26,513
initiatives were launched by

1638
01:19:26,513 --> 01:19:27,447
the city and that had the

1639
01:19:27,447 --> 01:19:28,749
effect of it is giving a Sam

1640
01:19:28,749 --> 01:19:29,750
Jones Holland's mother

1641
01:19:29,750 --> 01:19:32,750
shelters open because of the

1642
01:19:32,953 --> 01:19:33,620
City council's leadership. For

1643
01:19:33,620 --> 01:19:35,122
other jurisdictions to join

1644
01:19:35,122 --> 01:19:36,890
the effort. So I'll stop

1645
01:19:36,890 --> 01:19:37,757
there. Thank you for your

1646
01:19:37,757 --> 01:19:38,725
time.

1647
01:19:38,725 --> 01:19:39,793
>> Thank you, Mark. Alright,

1648
01:19:39,793 --> 01:19:42,793
Misty Omar and then rich.

1649
01:19:44,998 --> 01:19:46,998
Misty.

1650
01:19:48,168 --> 01:19:49,690
>> Thank you. Mayor and

1651
01:19:49,690 --> 01:19:52,572
council for taking the time to

1652
01:19:52,572 --> 01:19:54,972
hear this conversation on

1653
01:19:58,954 --> 01:20:01,954
behalf of Habitat for Humanity

1654
01:20:02,692 --> 01:20:02,984
of Sonoma County and the ceo

1655
01:20:02,984 --> 01:20:03,256
>> we have.

1656
01:20:03,256 --> 01:20:03,500
>> Strong support for the

1657
01:20:03,500 --> 01:20:04,184
city's consideration of this

1658
01:20:04,184 --> 01:20:06,584
ordinance. Allowing up to 10

1659
01:20:06,954 --> 01:20:07,387
homes for parcel designated in

1660
01:20:07,387 --> 01:20:09,387
urban infill.

1661
01:20:11,258 --> 01:20:11,625
>> area near transit.

1662
01:20:11,625 --> 01:20:12,526
>> Stops.

1663
01:20:12,526 --> 01:20:14,526
>> As an organization

1664
01:20:15,362 --> 01:20:15,996
dedicated to creating

1665
01:20:15,996 --> 01:20:16,596
affordable homeownership

1666
01:20:16,596 --> 01:20:18,532
opportunities for local

1667
01:20:18,532 --> 01:20:19,433
families. We know firsthand

1668
01:20:19,433 --> 01:20:20,167
how important flexible land

1669
01:20:20,167 --> 01:20:23,167
use policies are to addressing

1670
01:20:25,380 --> 01:20:26,407
Seminole County's housing.

1671
01:20:26,407 --> 01:20:26,974
>> Challenges smaller infill

1672
01:20:26,974 --> 01:20:28,974
developments offer an

1673
01:20:30,344 --> 01:20:32,445
opportunity to create much

1674
01:20:32,445 --> 01:20:33,112
needed housing within existing

1675
01:20:33,112 --> 01:20:35,112
neighborhoods while making

1676
01:20:36,216 --> 01:20:38,285
efficient use of limited land

1677
01:20:38,285 --> 01:20:39,553
and infrastructure. We have

1678
01:20:39,553 --> 01:20:40,860
seen firsthand what is

1679
01:20:40,860 --> 01:20:42,860
possible when local

1680
01:20:42,289 --> 01:20:43,570
governments embrace this

1681
01:20:43,570 --> 01:20:44,725
approach in SEPTEMBER have

1682
01:20:44,725 --> 01:20:45,793
attacked, completed

1683
01:20:45,793 --> 01:20:47,760
Blankenship place for townhome

1684
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:49,760
development in Sebastopol

1685
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:53,166
which transformed a vacant

1686
01:20:53,166 --> 01:20:53,801
7200 acre lot that had sat

1687
01:20:53,801 --> 01:20:56,201
there. We'd strewn for 40

1688
01:20:58,706 --> 01:21:02,576
years. It is now the home of 4

1689
01:21:02,576 --> 01:21:03,210
amazing local families. This

1690
01:21:03,210 --> 01:21:05,278
project was made possible

1691
01:21:05,278 --> 01:21:05,879
through the city s about

1692
01:21:05,879 --> 01:21:06,414
schools, willingness to

1693
01:21:06,414 --> 01:21:07,148
support residential

1694
01:21:07,148 --> 01:21:09,148
development on commercially

1695
01:21:10,351 --> 01:21:10,951
zone or infill properties. The

1696
01:21:10,951 --> 01:21:12,720
resolution specifically

1697
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:13,386
recognize that the project

1698
01:21:13,386 --> 01:21:15,386
with advanced several

1699
01:21:17,591 --> 01:21:18,592
important community goals.

1700
01:21:18,592 --> 01:21:20,992
Providing urban sprawl, sorry,

1701
01:21:22,296 --> 01:21:22,930
preventing urban sprawl,

1702
01:21:22,930 --> 01:21:24,930
prioritizing development

1703
01:21:25,299 --> 01:21:25,833
within the city limits

1704
01:21:25,833 --> 01:21:26,500
creating homer ship

1705
01:21:26,500 --> 01:21:28,500
homeownership opportunities

1706
01:21:28,703 --> 01:21:30,637
for low and moderate income

1707
01:21:30,637 --> 01:21:31,338
households providing housing

1708
01:21:31,338 --> 01:21:33,738
or employment schools, retail

1709
01:21:34,441 --> 01:21:35,142
and public transportation and

1710
01:21:35,142 --> 01:21:35,776
encouraging development that

1711
01:21:35,776 --> 01:21:38,780
fits within the existing

1712
01:21:38,780 --> 01:21:38,846
character of neighborhoods. I

1713
01:21:38,846 --> 01:21:39,947
encourage you to support this.

1714
01:21:39,947 --> 01:21:43,547
Thank you for your time. And

1715
01:21:43,784 --> 01:21:44,117
have a great day. Thank you.

1716
01:21:44,117 --> 01:21:44,852
Misty.

1717
01:21:44,852 --> 01:21:48,121
>> Omar Rich. And then add the

1718
01:21:48,121 --> 01:21:49,290
Arnold Omar.

1719
01:21:49,290 --> 01:21:51,125
>> Good afternoon. Mayor

1720
01:21:51,125 --> 01:21:52,359
stopped Vice Mayor Okrepkie

1721
01:21:52,359 --> 01:21:54,940
members of the council and

1722
01:21:54,940 --> 01:21:56,970
staff. My name is Omar Lopez.

1723
01:21:56,970 --> 01:21:56,764
I'm the policy coordinator, a

1724
01:21:56,764 --> 01:21:57,431
generation housing and I'm

1725
01:21:57,431 --> 01:21:59,660
here to urge you to direct

1726
01:21:59,660 --> 01:22:00,835
staff to move forward with sb

1727
01:22:00,835 --> 01:22:01,535
10. When we talk about

1728
01:22:01,535 --> 01:22:03,271
housing, we often talk about

1729
01:22:03,271 --> 01:22:04,105
it. One piece at a time

1730
01:22:04,105 --> 01:22:06,105
affordable housing, senior

1731
01:22:06,374 --> 01:22:08,609
housing starter homes. But

1732
01:22:08,609 --> 01:22:10,111
housing works like a ladder

1733
01:22:10,111 --> 01:22:10,812
ladder when there's room for

1734
01:22:10,812 --> 01:22:13,880
at each stop, people can move

1735
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:14,582
up when they need to found

1736
01:22:14,582 --> 01:22:15,249
sites when they need to stay

1737
01:22:15,249 --> 01:22:16,717
in the city that they love

1738
01:22:16,717 --> 01:22:18,718
through every stage of life.

1739
01:22:18,718 --> 01:22:20,855
When steps are missing, people

1740
01:22:20,855 --> 01:22:21,756
got stuck. And Santa Rosa, the

1741
01:22:21,756 --> 01:22:23,356
missing stops are in the

1742
01:22:23,356 --> 01:22:24,580
middle. When we when we have

1743
01:22:24,580 --> 01:22:24,625
single-family homes and we're

1744
01:22:24,625 --> 01:22:26,270
building these larger

1745
01:22:26,270 --> 01:22:27,795
apartment, bought the

1746
01:22:27,795 --> 01:22:30,980
buildings but very little in

1747
01:22:30,980 --> 01:22:31,990
between the cottage courts

1748
01:22:31,990 --> 01:22:32,967
townhomes in small buildings

1749
01:22:32,967 --> 01:22:34,635
that used to be how people got

1750
01:22:34,635 --> 01:22:35,303
their first foot hold that you

1751
01:22:35,303 --> 01:22:35,970
can see. And that's our dc

1752
01:22:35,970 --> 01:22:36,871
neighborhood. A lot of our

1753
01:22:36,871 --> 01:22:39,271
older neighborhoods in Santa

1754
01:22:41,442 --> 01:22:42,443
Rosa being built. As we time

1755
01:22:42,443 --> 01:22:44,212
adds those stops that allows

1756
01:22:44,212 --> 01:22:45,446
him to be built in a much more

1757
01:22:45,446 --> 01:22:46,247
feasible fashion that we don't

1758
01:22:46,247 --> 01:22:46,948
see what the s p nines and the

1759
01:22:46,948 --> 01:22:48,216
other ones, because we're how

1760
01:22:48,216 --> 01:22:50,818
the units can be built under

1761
01:22:50,818 --> 01:22:51,485
sb 10 versus with sb 9 kind of

1762
01:22:51,485 --> 01:22:53,485
like Councilmember Fleming

1763
01:22:55,724 --> 01:22:56,357
mentioned. When an older

1764
01:22:56,357 --> 01:22:57,692
resident can move into a

1765
01:22:57,692 --> 01:22:59,527
smaller home in their own

1766
01:22:59,527 --> 01:23:00,761
neighborhood, the House leave

1767
01:23:00,761 --> 01:23:02,196
open suffer younger family

1768
01:23:02,196 --> 01:23:02,831
when a young family come by

1769
01:23:02,831 --> 01:23:05,667
town home, a rental open

1770
01:23:05,667 --> 01:23:06,334
suffer someone else. New homes

1771
01:23:06,334 --> 01:23:08,734
every level. Great movement

1772
01:23:10,204 --> 01:23:11,606
for everybody. To make it

1773
01:23:11,606 --> 01:23:13,208
work. We asked you a pint is

1774
01:23:13,208 --> 01:23:14,475
probably as you feel

1775
01:23:14,475 --> 01:23:15,243
comfortable with from s and

1776
01:23:15,243 --> 01:23:16,578
make sense. We don't want to

1777
01:23:16,578 --> 01:23:17,312
put a few blocks to cause that

1778
01:23:17,312 --> 01:23:19,714
can kind of defeat the purpose

1779
01:23:19,714 --> 01:23:20,415
of this bill. We want to

1780
01:23:20,415 --> 01:23:23,415
development center to let the

1781
01:23:23,752 --> 01:23:25,587
sums actually be built and

1782
01:23:25,587 --> 01:23:26,720
parent with clear ministerial

1783
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:27,422
approval process of the city

1784
01:23:27,422 --> 01:23:28,156
is already developing. And as

1785
01:23:28,156 --> 01:23:31,459
part of the work plan from our

1786
01:23:31,459 --> 01:23:32,627
our understanding. And we want

1787
01:23:32,627 --> 01:23:34,696
to confirm the county Sonoma

1788
01:23:34,696 --> 01:23:35,430
has committed to implementing

1789
01:23:35,430 --> 01:23:36,431
has been time as part of their

1790
01:23:36,431 --> 01:23:37,465
housing element and that they

1791
01:23:37,465 --> 01:23:38,633
will start that work at the

1792
01:23:38,633 --> 01:23:39,334
beginning of next year. So to

1793
01:23:39,334 --> 01:23:42,334
see great opportunity for you

1794
01:23:44,672 --> 01:23:45,340
to co-lead. But the county.

1795
01:23:45,340 --> 01:23:48,340
Thank you, Omar Rich Abbey.

1796
01:23:48,710 --> 01:23:49,945
And then Pauline.

1797
01:23:49,945 --> 01:23:50,845
>> Hi, everyone. Rich Wallach

1798
01:23:50,845 --> 01:23:53,245
with Burbank Housing, senior

1799
01:23:53,615 --> 01:23:56,150
director of special projects.

1800
01:23:56,251 --> 01:23:57,180
And I want first say I'm in

1801
01:23:57,180 --> 01:24:00,618
very much in support of this

1802
01:24:02,123 --> 01:24:03,291
program. Sb 10 Atypical

1803
01:24:03,291 --> 01:24:05,460
Burbank Project MAY be around

1804
01:24:05,460 --> 01:24:08,460
50 units and that's going to

1805
01:24:08,663 --> 01:24:09,898
justify ally. Take a Tax

1806
01:24:09,898 --> 01:24:10,598
credit execution needing up

1807
01:24:10,598 --> 01:24:12,968
one and a half to 3 acres in

1808
01:24:12,968 --> 01:24:15,604
order to build for type 5

1809
01:24:15,604 --> 01:24:16,204
construction. A small infill

1810
01:24:16,204 --> 01:24:17,720
site MAY need much less

1811
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:19,472
infrastructure and other site

1812
01:24:21,643 --> 01:24:22,277
work and encourage

1813
01:24:22,277 --> 01:24:22,944
entrepreneurial efforts.

1814
01:24:22,944 --> 01:24:25,944
>> Richard lead in the Mike

1815
01:24:27,215 --> 01:24:28,830
Abishur thank you in. Other

1816
01:24:28,830 --> 01:24:28,750
site work and encourage

1817
01:24:28,750 --> 01:24:30,750
entrepreneurial efforts in

1818
01:24:32,387 --> 01:24:33,355
building developer capacity

1819
01:24:33,355 --> 01:24:35,355
for smaller nonprofits,

1820
01:24:35,490 --> 01:24:36,858
applying 80% am I units can

1821
01:24:36,858 --> 01:24:38,727
make projects more feasible by

1822
01:24:38,727 --> 01:24:41,796
applying the well for a tax

1823
01:24:41,796 --> 01:24:42,764
exemption when utilized with

1824
01:24:42,764 --> 01:24:43,498
affordability, regulations.

1825
01:24:43,498 --> 01:24:44,132
And these really do also

1826
01:24:44,132 --> 01:24:46,132
represent missing middle

1827
01:24:49,837 --> 01:24:51,720
approaches. I think this is

1828
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:53,750
more attractive, as others

1829
01:24:53,750 --> 01:24:54,642
have mentioned, that sb 9 sb

1830
01:24:54,642 --> 01:24:55,344
98. It correct me if I'm

1831
01:24:55,344 --> 01:24:58,213
wrong, but I think it usually

1832
01:24:58,213 --> 01:25:00,582
requires a homeowner as part

1833
01:25:00,582 --> 01:25:01,517
of that zoning effort. It's

1834
01:25:01,517 --> 01:25:04,517
it's not a 3rd party

1835
01:25:06,221 --> 01:25:06,822
development fake insight.

1836
01:25:06,822 --> 01:25:07,790
Thoughtful, small scale

1837
01:25:07,790 --> 01:25:08,490
development is easier to blend

1838
01:25:08,490 --> 01:25:11,490
in with neighborhood feel in

1839
01:25:13,495 --> 01:25:16,495
style. Made mention to the

1840
01:25:19,740 --> 01:25:21,740
council. There's great

1841
01:25:22,288 --> 01:25:22,747
visionary whose got a small

1842
01:25:22,747 --> 01:25:23,848
scale development book called

1843
01:25:23,848 --> 01:25:24,573
Building Small Bases based and

1844
01:25:24,573 --> 01:25:25,640
Jim Hyde based in Healdsburg.

1845
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:26,675
And they've got a lot of

1846
01:25:26,675 --> 01:25:28,844
creative ways to do small site

1847
01:25:28,844 --> 01:25:31,244
development that can really

1848
01:25:31,580 --> 01:25:33,648
enhance neighborhoods and take

1849
01:25:33,648 --> 01:25:35,217
into account the neighborhood

1850
01:25:35,217 --> 01:25:35,851
feel. I also have a

1851
01:25:35,851 --> 01:25:37,586
recommendation that maybe

1852
01:25:37,586 --> 01:25:41,186
there's an annual cap. So you

1853
01:25:42,691 --> 01:25:43,625
don't get over over grown with

1854
01:25:43,625 --> 01:25:44,860
that too many projects and not

1855
01:25:44,860 --> 01:25:45,527
enough capacity and still

1856
01:25:45,527 --> 01:25:46,195
implementing a program that

1857
01:25:46,195 --> 01:25:48,630
makes a lot of sense. Thank

1858
01:25:48,630 --> 01:25:49,264
you.

1859
01:25:49,264 --> 01:25:51,664
>> Thank you, Rich, Abby,

1860
01:25:54,103 --> 01:25:55,271
Pauline and then Caitlin.

1861
01:25:55,271 --> 01:25:57,673
>> Thank you so much. Mayor

1862
01:25:57,673 --> 01:26:00,673
Stapp and council. I'm Abby

1863
01:26:02,778 --> 01:26:03,879
Arnold representing Santa Rosa

1864
01:26:03,879 --> 01:26:04,847
Umb today. We're of an all

1865
01:26:04,847 --> 01:26:06,847
volunteer organization of

1866
01:26:07,483 --> 01:26:08,851
about 500 Santa Rosa residents

1867
01:26:08,851 --> 01:26:11,851
who are committed to building

1868
01:26:12,588 --> 01:26:13,255
Santa Rosa into an affordable,

1869
01:26:13,255 --> 01:26:15,655
vibrant and low-carbon city

1870
01:26:17,259 --> 01:26:19,795
for all. Rather than repeating

1871
01:26:19,795 --> 01:26:20,496
what we said in our letter. I

1872
01:26:20,496 --> 01:26:23,398
wanted to respond to some of

1873
01:26:23,398 --> 01:26:25,701
the comments that have been

1874
01:26:25,701 --> 01:26:29,301
made and talk about at a

1875
01:26:29,572 --> 01:26:30,606
practical and emotional level.

1876
01:26:30,606 --> 01:26:31,740
What increasing housing supply

1877
01:26:31,740 --> 01:26:34,843
means for those of us who live

1878
01:26:34,843 --> 01:26:38,443
here in Santa Rosa to begin

1879
01:26:39,715 --> 01:26:41,784
with it corrects the historic

1880
01:26:41,784 --> 01:26:42,852
racism of single-family

1881
01:26:42,852 --> 01:26:45,852
zoning, which was adopted, as

1882
01:26:46,689 --> 01:26:47,757
you can read about in a book

1883
01:26:47,757 --> 01:26:50,157
by Professor Richard Ross

1884
01:26:50,893 --> 01:26:52,610
Sting called The Color of Law.

1885
01:26:52,610 --> 01:26:53,829
It was adopted as a way of

1886
01:26:53,829 --> 01:26:54,697
excluding people from being

1887
01:26:54,697 --> 01:26:56,365
able to live in neighborhoods.

1888
01:26:56,365 --> 01:26:59,365
So it makes our neighborhoods

1889
01:27:00,369 --> 01:27:02,604
more diverse and more vibrant.

1890
01:27:02,604 --> 01:27:04,639
I look at this as a way of

1891
01:27:04,639 --> 01:27:07,390
having more friends or

1892
01:27:09,111 --> 01:27:10,212
neighbors, fewer people who

1893
01:27:10,212 --> 01:27:12,448
are homeless more homeowners,

1894
01:27:12,448 --> 01:27:16,480
more people being able to get

1895
01:27:16,185 --> 01:27:16,852
on the the opportunity to buy

1896
01:27:16,852 --> 01:27:20,452
a home and really put down

1897
01:27:21,724 --> 01:27:22,959
roots and make our homes. One

1898
01:27:22,959 --> 01:27:24,560
of the tragedies that Santa

1899
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:26,662
Rosa's afflicted with right

1900
01:27:26,662 --> 01:27:27,496
now is the declining

1901
01:27:27,496 --> 01:27:29,896
enrollment our schools. And

1902
01:27:30,766 --> 01:27:32,668
that's directly related to the

1903
01:27:32,668 --> 01:27:33,736
fact that we're about 30% of

1904
01:27:33,736 --> 01:27:36,639
seniors in this city and not

1905
01:27:36,639 --> 01:27:39,575
enough kids are here to take

1906
01:27:39,575 --> 01:27:41,411
it to the b in our schools. It

1907
01:27:41,411 --> 01:27:43,811
will also increase tax

1908
01:27:44,480 --> 01:27:47,480
revenues to pay for critical

1909
01:27:47,682 --> 01:27:50,620
city services. So we are in

1910
01:27:50,620 --> 01:27:53,200
strong support the city

1911
01:27:53,222 --> 01:27:56,222
adopting Prop 10 are an sb 10

1912
01:27:56,392 --> 01:27:57,126
plan. Thank you.

1913
01:27:57,126 --> 01:27:59,526
>> Thank you, Abbi. Halloween,

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01:28:00,763 --> 01:28:02,665
Caitlin. And then

1915
01:28:02,665 --> 01:28:03,366
>> Good afternoon. Mayor

1916
01:28:03,366 --> 01:28:04,167
stopped by Samara, preppy and

1917
01:28:04,167 --> 01:28:04,968
members of council. Thank you

1918
01:28:04,968 --> 01:28:05,601
so much for considering this

1919
01:28:05,601 --> 01:28:08,371
today. My name is Pauline

1920
01:28:08,371 --> 01:28:10,371
blocking with cornerstone.

1921
01:28:10,373 --> 01:28:11,740
More local North Bay property

1922
01:28:11,740 --> 01:28:14,740
owner and developer. And I'm

1923
01:28:15,770 --> 01:28:15,778
also a Santa Rosa resident I

1924
01:28:15,778 --> 01:28:18,514
am here to urge you to adopt

1925
01:28:18,514 --> 01:28:19,281
sb 10 as broadly as you can.

1926
01:28:19,281 --> 01:28:19,983
And as you know, it's

1927
01:28:19,983 --> 01:28:20,816
difficult to pencil projects

1928
01:28:20,816 --> 01:28:21,684
right now. So not getting a

1929
01:28:21,684 --> 01:28:22,452
lot of grandma about our

1930
01:28:22,452 --> 01:28:24,852
boundaries around. This is

1931
01:28:25,555 --> 01:28:27,790
going to the essential too. If

1932
01:28:27,790 --> 01:28:28,925
there is time put into

1933
01:28:28,925 --> 01:28:29,792
bringing this effort forward,

1934
01:28:29,792 --> 01:28:30,693
we want to make sure that it

1935
01:28:30,693 --> 01:28:31,394
can be applied and it just

1936
01:28:31,394 --> 01:28:33,429
doesn't become another thing

1937
01:28:33,429 --> 01:28:34,130
on the shelf that has too many

1938
01:28:34,130 --> 01:28:36,530
boundaries that actually make

1939
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:37,700
it possible to build also

1940
01:28:37,700 --> 01:28:40,700
during the presentation had a

1941
01:28:40,837 --> 01:28:41,938
thought. I think Rich said

1942
01:28:41,938 --> 01:28:42,638
about doing maybe a cap. I

1943
01:28:42,638 --> 01:28:43,339
think annual is great on the

1944
01:28:43,339 --> 01:28:46,209
percentage of the parcels. I

1945
01:28:46,209 --> 01:28:47,376
know there's a concern about

1946
01:28:47,376 --> 01:28:50,413
their being you know, if all

1947
01:28:50,413 --> 01:28:51,648
of those were developed, which

1948
01:28:51,648 --> 01:28:52,382
I don't know the probability,

1949
01:28:52,382 --> 01:28:53,750
but I think an annual cap is a

1950
01:28:53,750 --> 01:28:54,751
great way to potentially

1951
01:28:54,751 --> 01:28:57,751
address that. In addition to

1952
01:28:57,820 --> 01:28:58,420
being here today and for on

1953
01:28:58,420 --> 01:29:00,923
its own. And Santa Rosa

1954
01:29:00,923 --> 01:29:02,826
resident. I'm also assist or I

1955
01:29:02,826 --> 01:29:03,559
should say proud sister of

1956
01:29:03,559 --> 01:29:05,695
emergency room nurse at center

1957
01:29:05,695 --> 01:29:06,962
here in our community. She's

1958
01:29:06,962 --> 01:29:08,765
been a resident in this

1959
01:29:08,765 --> 01:29:09,798
community for over 15 years

1960
01:29:09,798 --> 01:29:11,000
and 2 months ago she moved to

1961
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:11,835
cloverdale because she could

1962
01:29:11,835 --> 01:29:12,502
not afford the housing here

1963
01:29:12,502 --> 01:29:14,704
and she commutes and now to

1964
01:29:14,704 --> 01:29:16,907
serve the community. So even

1965
01:29:16,907 --> 01:29:18,475
if this is just a piece of the

1966
01:29:18,475 --> 01:29:19,241
affordable housing, you know,

1967
01:29:19,241 --> 01:29:19,910
puzzle and it gets us a step

1968
01:29:19,910 --> 01:29:22,910
forward. It's still a piece

1969
01:29:23,713 --> 01:29:24,714
that. Helps. Omar mentioned

1970
01:29:24,714 --> 01:29:25,348
that housing cycle. We want

1971
01:29:25,348 --> 01:29:27,317
people to be able to move

1972
01:29:27,317 --> 01:29:28,285
through the housing cycle and

1973
01:29:28,285 --> 01:29:29,219
not be stuck. So it helps us

1974
01:29:29,219 --> 01:29:30,887
keep people here in our

1975
01:29:30,887 --> 01:29:31,688
communities. Helps us draw new

1976
01:29:31,688 --> 01:29:32,521
people in. And again, it's

1977
01:29:32,521 --> 01:29:35,926
just a piece of the puzzle to

1978
01:29:35,926 --> 01:29:36,593
help us forward. So I urge you

1979
01:29:36,593 --> 01:29:37,359
to adopt sb 10 in the most

1980
01:29:37,359 --> 01:29:40,563
brought sense that we can. And

1981
01:29:40,563 --> 01:29:41,465
thank you for your time.

1982
01:29:41,465 --> 01:29:43,865
>> Thank you, Pauline, Caitlin

1983
01:29:46,770 --> 01:29:47,671
Jenner and then Peter Stanley.

1984
01:29:47,671 --> 01:29:48,405
Good afternoon. Mayor stopping

1985
01:29:48,405 --> 01:29:50,140
Councilmembers Cape by be here

1986
01:29:50,140 --> 01:29:50,941
on behalf of legal aid Sonoma

1987
01:29:50,941 --> 01:29:51,508
County.

1988
01:29:51,508 --> 01:29:53,908
>> Thank you for this

1989
01:29:54,111 --> 01:29:55,112
opportunity to comment to

1990
01:29:55,112 --> 01:29:57,512
speak alongside so many

1991
01:29:57,848 --> 01:29:59,750
members from our community and

1992
01:29:59,750 --> 01:30:02,150
organizations spoken to the

1993
01:30:02,518 --> 01:30:04,287
depth and the reach of the

1994
01:30:04,287 --> 01:30:06,560
impacts of of the housing

1995
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:09,920
crisis and the urgency that is

1996
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:10,927
demanded at legal aid. We see

1997
01:30:10,927 --> 01:30:13,130
this crisis up close every

1998
01:30:13,130 --> 01:30:16,130
single day with families who

1999
01:30:17,568 --> 01:30:18,335
are struggling and sometimes

2000
01:30:18,335 --> 01:30:21,935
just not able to actually keep

2001
01:30:22,172 --> 01:30:22,772
a roof over their heads. We

2002
01:30:22,772 --> 01:30:23,439
have submitted written

2003
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:24,474
comments as well. So I will

2004
01:30:24,474 --> 01:30:27,978
keep my levels. My my comments

2005
01:30:27,978 --> 01:30:29,146
at a high level. But I think

2006
01:30:29,146 --> 01:30:30,747
the question here tonight is

2007
01:30:30,747 --> 01:30:31,982
not really whether we need to

2008
01:30:31,982 --> 01:30:33,750
build more housing and whether

2009
01:30:33,750 --> 01:30:35,520
we need to build a greater

2010
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:38,520
diversity of housing types. I

2011
01:30:43,797 --> 01:30:46,797
think the answer both those

2012
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:47,859
questions is a is a resounding

2013
01:30:47,859 --> 01:30:48,158
yes. But I think the question

2014
01:30:48,158 --> 01:30:48,412
is whether sb 10 is the right

2015
01:30:48,412 --> 01:30:48,693
to has written or can be the

2016
01:30:48,693 --> 01:30:49,933
right tools, scoped in a way

2017
01:30:49,933 --> 01:30:53,700
and that we actually get to an

2018
01:30:53,700 --> 01:30:54,204
equitable outcome where we

2019
01:30:54,204 --> 01:30:54,872
don't see widening disparities

2020
01:30:54,872 --> 01:30:56,540
within our communities as a

2021
01:30:56,540 --> 01:31:00,140
result of how we apply this

2022
01:31:01,511 --> 01:31:02,179
tool. I think we're concerned.

2023
01:31:02,179 --> 01:31:03,447
That, you know, compared to

2024
01:31:03,447 --> 01:31:04,915
some of the state zoning

2025
01:31:04,915 --> 01:31:06,584
reforms that were mentioned as

2026
01:31:06,584 --> 01:31:09,584
being like sb 9, which allows

2027
01:31:09,819 --> 01:31:13,419
up to 8 units or sb 1123. That

2028
01:31:13,624 --> 01:31:14,658
allows up to 10 units that sb

2029
01:31:14,658 --> 01:31:16,593
10 lacks any requirement that

2030
01:31:16,593 --> 01:31:17,494
the homes redevelops. The

2031
01:31:17,494 --> 01:31:18,929
parcels redevelop do not have

2032
01:31:18,929 --> 01:31:19,630
renters living there

2033
01:31:19,630 --> 01:31:21,632
currently. And so especially

2034
01:31:21,632 --> 01:31:22,366
for neighborhoods where we

2035
01:31:22,366 --> 01:31:24,366
have lower-income communities,

2036
01:31:25,102 --> 01:31:25,802
communities of color and

2037
01:31:25,802 --> 01:31:27,603
primarily single-family homes

2038
01:31:27,603 --> 01:31:29,806
in this community is a thing.

2039
01:31:29,806 --> 01:31:30,541
There is some real concern

2040
01:31:30,541 --> 01:31:34,780
there that if this news for be

2041
01:31:34,780 --> 01:31:36,180
like to see addressed. And I

2042
01:31:36,180 --> 01:31:37,214
will say that. Like I said,

2043
01:31:37,214 --> 01:31:38,349
we've submitted additional

2044
01:31:38,349 --> 01:31:40,749
written comments that outline

2045
01:31:41,352 --> 01:31:42,186
how the city might scope sb 10

2046
01:31:42,186 --> 01:31:42,886
locally in a way that

2047
01:31:42,886 --> 01:31:44,886
affirmatively further sapped

2048
01:31:45,321 --> 01:31:45,990
fair housing. Thank you. Thank

2049
01:31:45,990 --> 01:31:48,990
you, Kate. All right. Jenny

2050
01:31:50,594 --> 01:31:51,761
beer. I

2051
01:31:51,761 --> 01:31:53,464
>> Good evening. Mayor

2052
01:31:53,464 --> 01:31:54,298
Council, thank you. Staff of

2053
01:31:54,298 --> 01:31:57,298
the presentation. I want to

2054
01:31:58,135 --> 01:32:00,370
just address a couple things

2055
01:32:00,370 --> 01:32:00,738
quickly. The first thing is is

2056
01:32:00,738 --> 01:32:03,974
about is this a good tool or

2057
01:32:03,974 --> 01:32:04,642
do we have enough tools and I

2058
01:32:04,642 --> 01:32:05,342
think the answer is pretty

2059
01:32:05,342 --> 01:32:06,770
simple that they're just the

2060
01:32:06,770 --> 01:32:07,144
facts as we don't have enough

2061
01:32:07,144 --> 01:32:10,744
homes and our homes are too

2062
01:32:10,948 --> 01:32:11,615
expensive. 4 people who live

2063
01:32:11,615 --> 01:32:14,518
and work here and these are

2064
01:32:14,518 --> 01:32:17,388
just facts. And so we are also

2065
01:32:17,388 --> 01:32:18,589
set to underperform production

2066
01:32:18,589 --> 01:32:21,592
any time in the last 60 years.

2067
01:32:21,592 --> 01:32:22,393
These are just facts. So

2068
01:32:22,393 --> 01:32:24,395
clearly the tools we have are

2069
01:32:24,395 --> 01:32:25,696
not enough. And we need every

2070
01:32:25,696 --> 01:32:26,531
tool in every tool is going to

2071
01:32:26,531 --> 01:32:28,232
do just a little bit because

2072
01:32:28,232 --> 01:32:30,434
there is no magic bullet.

2073
01:32:30,434 --> 01:32:31,135
There isn't. So this is got to

2074
01:32:31,135 --> 01:32:34,338
do something. This is a great

2075
01:32:34,338 --> 01:32:36,240
tool in the tool box. Second

2076
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:37,308
thing is around, this is the

2077
01:32:37,308 --> 01:32:39,110
one thing I want to thank

2078
01:32:39,110 --> 01:32:40,277
staff for great work and

2079
01:32:40,277 --> 01:32:41,112
they've been great partners in

2080
01:32:41,112 --> 01:32:41,813
this. But the one thing I

2081
01:32:41,813 --> 01:32:43,648
would disagree with you on is

2082
01:32:43,648 --> 01:32:44,382
whether or not this is

2083
01:32:44,382 --> 01:32:46,684
economically proven because it

2084
01:32:46,684 --> 01:32:48,586
is economically proven when it

2085
01:32:48,586 --> 01:32:49,954
was legal. They did it and you

2086
01:32:49,954 --> 01:32:50,688
see it in the McDonald

2087
01:32:50,688 --> 01:32:51,355
neighborhood. You see it in

2088
01:32:51,355 --> 01:32:52,523
the Jaycee neighborhood and

2089
01:32:52,523 --> 01:32:53,558
you see it in the Burbank

2090
01:32:53,558 --> 01:32:54,258
neighborhood. You see it in

2091
01:32:54,258 --> 01:32:54,958
Cherry Street. You see it in

2092
01:32:54,958 --> 01:32:57,358
downtown Healdsburg. You see

2093
01:32:58,290 --> 01:32:59,363
it in downtown Petaluma.

2094
01:32:59,363 --> 01:33:01,320
>> You see it in every older

2095
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:02,266
neighborhood when it was

2096
01:33:02,266 --> 01:33:05,269
legal, they do. And they built

2097
01:33:05,269 --> 01:33:06,200
and I own a home on the corner

2098
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:07,271
of McDonald neighborhood

2099
01:33:07,271 --> 01:33:08,373
District and I have a home in

2100
01:33:08,373 --> 01:33:09,239
an ad you and across the

2101
01:33:09,239 --> 01:33:09,907
street, there's a single

2102
01:33:09,907 --> 01:33:10,608
family home and across the

2103
01:33:10,608 --> 01:33:11,275
street, there's 10 units and

2104
01:33:11,275 --> 01:33:13,511
across the street the other

2105
01:33:13,511 --> 01:33:14,144
way, there's a four-bedroom

2106
01:33:14,144 --> 01:33:14,845
cottage thing in down the

2107
01:33:14,845 --> 01:33:17,582
street. There's a triplex and

2108
01:33:17,582 --> 01:33:18,549
there's a budget, fancy

2109
01:33:18,549 --> 01:33:19,517
single-family homes and has a

2110
01:33:19,517 --> 01:33:20,218
budget ride. Flexes in quads,

2111
01:33:20,218 --> 01:33:20,885
all throughout the

2112
01:33:20,885 --> 01:33:22,519
neighborhood that you don't

2113
01:33:22,519 --> 01:33:23,187
even know. Our multi-family

2114
01:33:23,187 --> 01:33:26,787
when it was legal, they did

2115
01:33:27,124 --> 01:33:29,227
it. So this is a great tool.

2116
01:33:29,227 --> 01:33:30,194
You know, in 2019, the

2117
01:33:30,194 --> 01:33:31,196
governor said Santa Rosa,

2118
01:33:31,196 --> 01:33:34,732
you're doing all that you can

2119
01:33:34,732 --> 01:33:36,167
and we were at the moment,

2120
01:33:36,167 --> 01:33:37,901
right? We were speeding,

2121
01:33:37,901 --> 01:33:38,836
rebuild and we were up zoning

2122
01:33:38,836 --> 01:33:40,138
downtown. But it's not enough

2123
01:33:40,138 --> 01:33:41,906
because it's too hard. So

2124
01:33:41,906 --> 01:33:44,800
we've got to do every single

2125
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:46,577
thing we possibly can. And

2126
01:33:46,577 --> 01:33:47,244
this is a great tool. So

2127
01:33:47,244 --> 01:33:47,879
please adopted broadly. But

2128
01:33:47,879 --> 01:33:49,580
with the objective design

2129
01:33:49,580 --> 01:33:51,580
standards.

2130
01:33:54,585 --> 01:33:55,420
>> Thank you, Peter.

2131
01:33:55,420 --> 01:33:56,119
>> Good Good evening. Mayor

2132
01:33:56,119 --> 01:33:59,119
staff members of the council.

2133
01:34:00,692 --> 01:34:01,292
My name is Peter I've had an

2134
01:34:01,292 --> 01:34:01,926
architectural land use

2135
01:34:01,926 --> 01:34:02,627
planning and development

2136
01:34:02,627 --> 01:34:04,863
consulting firm in Santa Rosa

2137
01:34:04,863 --> 01:34:05,430
for 25 years now, I spent 6

2138
01:34:05,430 --> 01:34:07,830
years on the planning

2139
01:34:08,933 --> 01:34:09,634
Commission and I am now I

2140
01:34:09,634 --> 01:34:12,137
stepped across the island now

2141
01:34:12,137 --> 01:34:13,138
and the just finished. A 14

2142
01:34:13,138 --> 01:34:15,138
unit incremental townhouse

2143
01:34:15,140 --> 01:34:17,400
development in another

2144
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:17,809
jurisdiction. I will tell you,

2145
01:34:17,809 --> 01:34:18,676
I couldn't have done that

2146
01:34:18,676 --> 01:34:21,613
project here. Sb 10 would have

2147
01:34:21,613 --> 01:34:24,549
allowed me to do that here. I

2148
01:34:24,549 --> 01:34:26,451
think it's important to all

2149
01:34:26,451 --> 01:34:28,318
the speakers have talked very

2150
01:34:28,318 --> 01:34:29,190
eloquently about why we need

2151
01:34:29,190 --> 01:34:32,190
another tool in the tool box.

2152
01:34:32,190 --> 01:34:34,793
And that's because sb 9 is a

2153
01:34:34,793 --> 01:34:37,195
great tool, but it doesn't do

2154
01:34:37,195 --> 01:34:38,762
what I want to do. And I want

2155
01:34:38,762 --> 01:34:40,650
to build housing in this

2156
01:34:40,650 --> 01:34:41,766
community, but I can't do that

2157
01:34:41,766 --> 01:34:44,200
under sb 9 unless I'm going to

2158
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:46,604
living in one of the houses

2159
01:34:46,604 --> 01:34:47,205
for 3 years. That's not how we

2160
01:34:47,205 --> 01:34:48,773
develop housing for the

2161
01:34:48,773 --> 01:34:49,607
communities that are being

2162
01:34:49,607 --> 01:34:51,607
marginalized here. Sb 10

2163
01:34:52,277 --> 01:34:54,279
allows us to do all kinds of

2164
01:34:54,279 --> 01:34:54,913
more creative development

2165
01:34:54,913 --> 01:34:55,647
patterns. Those creative

2166
01:34:55,647 --> 01:34:57,415
development patterns are going

2167
01:34:57,415 --> 01:35:00,852
to be able to give housing to

2168
01:35:00,852 --> 01:35:01,553
people who can't afford like

2169
01:35:01,553 --> 01:35:02,787
COUNCILMAN Rogers and me what

2170
01:35:02,787 --> 01:35:06,691
I had to do to get my house.

2171
01:35:06,691 --> 01:35:08,393
It takes a lot of work. What

2172
01:35:08,393 --> 01:35:09,261
we need options that allow

2173
01:35:09,261 --> 01:35:11,229
those people to not have to

2174
01:35:11,229 --> 01:35:13,398
have 3 jobs in order to get

2175
01:35:13,398 --> 01:35:14,165
housing. We need to have the

2176
01:35:14,165 --> 01:35:17,165
kind of housing that when

2177
01:35:18,202 --> 01:35:19,304
people graduate from Sonoma

2178
01:35:19,304 --> 01:35:20,539
State or they get a degree

2179
01:35:20,539 --> 01:35:21,206
that's rjc, that they can stay

2180
01:35:21,206 --> 01:35:21,907
in this community and they

2181
01:35:21,907 --> 01:35:25,343
don't have to live in a house

2182
01:35:25,343 --> 01:35:26,110
with 4 other people. This is

2183
01:35:26,110 --> 01:35:26,712
what sb 10 does. It's just

2184
01:35:26,712 --> 01:35:29,414
another tool in the tool box.

2185
01:35:29,414 --> 01:35:30,148
These tool box. Items that

2186
01:35:30,148 --> 01:35:32,548
everybody talks about. They're

2187
01:35:32,650 --> 01:35:35,553
not something could to just

2188
01:35:35,553 --> 01:35:36,855
sort of cast aside. You can't

2189
01:35:36,855 --> 01:35:39,691
throw a big blanket over the

2190
01:35:39,691 --> 01:35:41,226
city and say we solve the

2191
01:35:41,226 --> 01:35:43,280
problem. We will not have a

2192
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:44,329
floodgate of sb 10 projects

2193
01:35:44,329 --> 01:35:45,630
coming through. I can tell you

2194
01:35:45,630 --> 01:35:46,832
that because I've been here

2195
01:35:46,832 --> 01:35:48,799
for 25 years. I've watched all

2196
01:35:48,799 --> 01:35:50,635
these policies go in place and

2197
01:35:50,635 --> 01:35:53,305
they each elevate housing, but

2198
01:35:53,305 --> 01:35:54,940
they do not overwhelm it. So I

2199
01:35:54,940 --> 01:35:56,141
would encourage you to approve

2200
01:35:56,141 --> 01:35:56,441
consent broad range. Thank

2201
01:35:56,441 --> 01:35:58,142
you.

2202
01:35:58,142 --> 01:36:00,142
>> Thank you, Peter.

2203
01:36:04,491 --> 01:36:06,891
>> Fred, you're up next.

2204
01:36:08,118 --> 01:36:08,347
>> Santa Rosa has a suburban

2205
01:36:08,347 --> 01:36:10,255
sprawl development pattern

2206
01:36:10,255 --> 01:36:11,156
that locked in primarily white

2207
01:36:11,156 --> 01:36:13,156
single-family zone

2208
01:36:13,225 --> 01:36:14,159
neighborhoods. This was and is

2209
01:36:14,159 --> 01:36:16,159
systemic segregation. These

2210
01:36:16,495 --> 01:36:18,197
low density areas reported

2211
01:36:18,197 --> 01:36:18,864
opportunity and burned a

2212
01:36:18,864 --> 01:36:21,264
bridge to replicating what

2213
01:36:21,934 --> 01:36:23,936
they have with the eu gb

2214
01:36:23,936 --> 01:36:25,471
movement. Yuji bees made for a

2215
01:36:25,471 --> 01:36:26,271
green checkmate know pushing

2216
01:36:26,271 --> 01:36:29,871
the edge but no dense, dense

2217
01:36:30,175 --> 01:36:32,770
infield tolerated either. This

2218
01:36:32,770 --> 01:36:32,711
makes low quality city strips

2219
01:36:32,711 --> 01:36:35,711
in Santa Rosa Avenue into

2220
01:36:35,947 --> 01:36:36,681
nimby and Reno relief valves

2221
01:36:36,681 --> 01:36:39,681
sb 10 attempts to address that

2222
01:36:39,818 --> 01:36:41,887
corn in the argument that up

2223
01:36:41,887 --> 01:36:42,720
zoning destroys neighborhood

2224
01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:43,422
character by disguising medium

2225
01:36:43,422 --> 01:36:46,258
density housing units to look

2226
01:36:46,258 --> 01:36:48,327
like single-family homes. But

2227
01:36:48,327 --> 01:36:50,395
there is no sb 10

2228
01:36:50,395 --> 01:36:52,640
affordability requirement sb

2229
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:52,764
10 units won't address the

2230
01:36:52,764 --> 01:36:54,764
city's greatest affordability

2231
01:36:55,334 --> 01:36:56,535
needs because the units we'll

2232
01:36:56,535 --> 01:36:58,603
be market rate and market rate

2233
01:36:58,603 --> 01:36:59,271
is on affordable at even

2234
01:36:59,271 --> 01:37:01,340
smaller unit sizes too low,

2235
01:37:01,340 --> 01:37:02,541
very low and extremely low

2236
01:37:02,541 --> 01:37:06,141
income cohort as well as many

2237
01:37:07,112 --> 01:37:08,147
moderate income folks. The

2238
01:37:08,147 --> 01:37:10,147
greatest need Rosa,

2239
01:37:10,882 --> 01:37:11,550
significant 3 cycle. Reno

2240
01:37:11,550 --> 01:37:12,184
backlog, a very low income

2241
01:37:12,184 --> 01:37:15,184
housing. And this is what

2242
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:16,388
really needs plan. So enter

2243
01:37:16,388 --> 01:37:17,590
affirmatively furthering fair

2244
01:37:17,590 --> 01:37:18,624
housing and the requirement

2245
01:37:18,624 --> 01:37:20,893
that meaningful actions be

2246
01:37:20,893 --> 01:37:21,759
taken to combat segregation.

2247
01:37:21,759 --> 01:37:24,463
Coming on the city to bring

2248
01:37:24,463 --> 01:37:27,366
forward aff age, the housing

2249
01:37:27,366 --> 01:37:28,567
element, equity peas and

2250
01:37:28,567 --> 01:37:29,535
ensure that no actions are

2251
01:37:29,535 --> 01:37:30,970
taken that go against this

2252
01:37:30,970 --> 01:37:35,170
law. If you decide to go with

2253
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:36,675
the sb 10 overlays. So I would

2254
01:37:36,675 --> 01:37:40,275
like to back case comment from

2255
01:37:40,613 --> 01:37:41,647
legal aid and support

2256
01:37:41,647 --> 01:37:42,381
generally in the comments of

2257
01:37:42,381 --> 01:37:43,315
Councilmember Fleming and

2258
01:37:43,315 --> 01:37:45,951
other folks that we need more

2259
01:37:45,951 --> 01:37:47,386
tools in the tool box, but

2260
01:37:47,386 --> 01:37:48,120
also with the provision that

2261
01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:52,320
Kate made that there has to be

2262
01:37:53,325 --> 01:37:54,293
aff age. Analysis and study.

2263
01:37:54,293 --> 01:37:55,961
So that won't be shown that

2264
01:37:55,961 --> 01:37:56,495
these market rates want to

2265
01:37:56,495 --> 01:37:58,495
exacerbate existing

2266
01:37:59,932 --> 01:38:01,600
segregation. Thank you. Thank

2267
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:02,301
you, Fred. Is there anybody

2268
01:38:02,301 --> 01:38:05,301
else in council chambers who

2269
01:38:06,972 --> 01:38:07,606
was just wishes to speak?

2270
01:38:07,606 --> 01:38:08,875
>> Seeing none. We'll go

2271
01:38:08,875 --> 01:38:09,742
online. MADAM Zoom host, is

2272
01:38:09,742 --> 01:38:10,376
there anybody online who has

2273
01:38:10,376 --> 01:38:12,812
their hand raised or has

2274
01:38:12,812 --> 01:38:14,812
doubts or 9?

2275
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:16,782
>> But, of course, mayor, for

2276
01:38:16,782 --> 01:38:17,450
this item there is we're going

2277
01:38:17,450 --> 01:38:18,830
to start with Stephanie and

2278
01:38:18,830 --> 01:38:20,720
then move on to leora. If

2279
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:21,754
there's anybody else on zoom,

2280
01:38:21,754 --> 01:38:25,354
raise your hand now or it's

2281
01:38:30,762 --> 01:38:31,497
star 9. If you dialed in.

2282
01:38:31,497 --> 01:38:32,198
Stephanie, I have enabled your

2283
01:38:32,198 --> 01:38:34,598
permissions. Go right ahead.

2284
01:38:36,870 --> 01:38:37,936
>> Can you hear me? Yep. Thank

2285
01:38:37,936 --> 01:38:39,204
My name is Stephanie. I'm with

2286
01:38:39,204 --> 01:38:41,604
generation housing, but I'm

2287
01:38:42,308 --> 01:38:43,209
actually here to share comment

2288
01:38:43,209 --> 01:38:44,143
from.

2289
01:38:44,143 --> 01:38:44,844
>> Alicia, about ppe for

2290
01:38:44,844 --> 01:38:45,545
workplace solutions on behalf

2291
01:38:45,545 --> 01:38:47,413
of key site who share common

2292
01:38:47,413 --> 01:38:50,413
with us earlier today, she's

2293
01:38:51,117 --> 01:38:53,850
unable to attend to key site,

2294
01:38:53,850 --> 01:38:54,286
is experiencing tremendous

2295
01:38:54,286 --> 01:38:56,122
growth and hiring rapidly and

2296
01:38:56,122 --> 01:38:57,190
attracting great time to Santa

2297
01:38:57,190 --> 01:38:58,391
Rosa means giving employees

2298
01:38:58,391 --> 01:39:00,360
the opportunity to build a

2299
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:01,940
light here. Not just work

2300
01:39:01,940 --> 01:39:03,863
Right now, house and feel like

2301
01:39:03,863 --> 01:39:04,463
one of the most fragile

2302
01:39:04,463 --> 01:39:05,131
threads connecting that

2303
01:39:05,131 --> 01:39:07,531
opportunity to a long-term

2304
01:39:07,566 --> 01:39:09,568
future. And Santa Rosa, we can

2305
01:39:09,568 --> 01:39:10,603
bring great people here, but

2306
01:39:10,603 --> 01:39:11,604
whether they can put down

2307
01:39:11,604 --> 01:39:13,273
roots and truly become part of

2308
01:39:13,273 --> 01:39:13,940
this community depends in

2309
01:39:13,940 --> 01:39:14,574
meaningful part on whether

2310
01:39:14,574 --> 01:39:17,844
they can find a home that

2311
01:39:17,844 --> 01:39:18,511
works for them. Great housing

2312
01:39:18,511 --> 01:39:20,346
opportunities can turn that

2313
01:39:20,346 --> 01:39:22,549
fragile threat today into a

2314
01:39:22,549 --> 01:39:23,116
strong rope for the future

2315
01:39:23,116 --> 01:39:23,783
connecting employees,

2316
01:39:23,783 --> 01:39:26,183
families, employers and the

2317
01:39:26,519 --> 01:39:27,119
community for years to come

2318
01:39:27,119 --> 01:39:27,887
expanding the range of

2319
01:39:27,887 --> 01:39:29,789
attainable housing options,

2320
01:39:29,789 --> 01:39:31,424
including missing middle

2321
01:39:31,424 --> 01:39:33,326
housing, gives more people the

2322
01:39:33,326 --> 01:39:34,660
chance to make that connection

2323
01:39:34,660 --> 01:39:35,595
lasting. And I want to share a

2324
01:39:35,595 --> 01:39:36,296
couple more things that

2325
01:39:36,296 --> 01:39:39,866
clarify that. This is for me,

2326
01:39:39,866 --> 01:39:41,634
Stephanie, not Alicia, but I I

2327
01:39:41,634 --> 01:39:43,636
I would encourage you all not

2328
01:39:43,636 --> 01:39:46,405
to fear the 72% number. This

2329
01:39:46,405 --> 01:39:46,973
isn't good thing that this

2330
01:39:46,973 --> 01:39:49,373
many parcels can take

2331
01:39:50,343 --> 01:39:52,379
advantage of this sb 9 has

2332
01:39:52,379 --> 01:39:53,120
been in effect for 4 years and

2333
01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:53,645
includes most Santa Rosa

2334
01:39:53,645 --> 01:39:56,450
parcels. And only been 15

2335
01:39:57,820 --> 01:39:58,952
projects. An additional tool

2336
01:39:58,952 --> 01:40:00,486
that can add more density. But

2337
01:40:00,486 --> 01:40:01,154
like with sb 9, it's hard when

2338
01:40:01,154 --> 01:40:02,288
you have many parcels to be

2339
01:40:02,288 --> 01:40:04,688
available so that incremental

2340
01:40:07,460 --> 01:40:08,728
percentage will I also want

2341
01:40:08,728 --> 01:40:09,896
clarify the sb 9 versus that

2342
01:40:09,896 --> 01:40:11,896
the 10 conversations not

2343
01:40:13,766 --> 01:40:14,434
apples to were sb. 9 allows 8

2344
01:40:14,434 --> 01:40:15,680
10 allows time has I'm like

2345
01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:15,769
has been said many times

2346
01:40:15,769 --> 01:40:17,403
requires homeowner occupy one

2347
01:40:17,403 --> 01:40:21,300
of these units as the time

2348
01:40:22,142 --> 01:40:22,876
does not to housing doesn't

2349
01:40:22,876 --> 01:40:24,770
just out a bunch new people to

2350
01:40:24,770 --> 01:40:26,120
the city allows people to move

2351
01:40:26,120 --> 01:40:27,800
out of their penthouse out of

2352
01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:28,915
a roommate situation out of

2353
01:40:28,915 --> 01:40:29,516
substandard housing and

2354
01:40:29,516 --> 01:40:30,183
overcrowded housing. It

2355
01:40:30,183 --> 01:40:31,884
creates desperately needed

2356
01:40:31,884 --> 01:40:32,552
movement in the market. And

2357
01:40:32,552 --> 01:40:35,552
adds new residents said who

2358
01:40:38,580 --> 01:40:38,391
can? Thank you, Stephanie

2359
01:40:38,391 --> 01:40:39,325
Leora.

2360
01:40:39,325 --> 01:40:40,600
>> Followed by, Carol. If

2361
01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:42,996
anybody else again, raise your

2362
01:40:42,996 --> 01:40:43,663
hand now, please. We are a go

2363
01:40:43,663 --> 01:40:46,663
right ahead. I've been able

2364
01:40:46,700 --> 01:40:47,401
permissions.

2365
01:40:47,401 --> 01:40:50,803
>> I everybody of my name is

2366
01:40:50,803 --> 01:40:54,403
Lee or not Congress. I work

2367
01:40:54,541 --> 01:40:56,309
for you in the action but also

2368
01:40:56,309 --> 01:40:57,100
really support density and and

2369
01:40:57,100 --> 01:40:59,100
neighborhoods against gentle

2370
01:41:00,781 --> 01:41:01,782
density. Is that your car?

2371
01:41:01,782 --> 01:41:05,382
>> live a parcel a half acre

2372
01:41:06,586 --> 01:41:09,586
parcel of that originally had

2373
01:41:10,323 --> 01:41:11,358
one unit on and are able to

2374
01:41:11,358 --> 01:41:13,160
build. Jt year today, 80's

2375
01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:17,360
actually. And in a tu. So we

2376
01:41:18,866 --> 01:41:20,934
have 4 units and you know, our

2377
01:41:20,934 --> 01:41:21,635
houses look any different than

2378
01:41:21,635 --> 01:41:23,270
the House's owner Street. But

2379
01:41:23,270 --> 01:41:23,937
what we do have is we have my

2380
01:41:23,937 --> 01:41:26,337
mother-in-law and my father

2381
01:41:27,107 --> 01:41:27,774
and I who have their own home,

2382
01:41:27,774 --> 01:41:28,442
but are still really close.

2383
01:41:28,442 --> 01:41:30,878
They can provide child care

2384
01:41:30,878 --> 01:41:34,478
for our 2 kids. And we can't

2385
01:41:34,548 --> 01:41:35,382
afford to stay here because we

2386
01:41:35,382 --> 01:41:36,490
have all these incomes that

2387
01:41:36,490 --> 01:41:39,490
are sort of contributing to

2388
01:41:39,853 --> 01:41:41,540
our property. I would never in

2389
01:41:41,540 --> 01:41:41,889
a million years be able to

2390
01:41:41,889 --> 01:41:43,889
afford our neighborhood

2391
01:41:47,461 --> 01:41:48,462
neighborhood. If we didn't all

2392
01:41:48,462 --> 01:41:49,329
these adults, have a guy who

2393
01:41:49,329 --> 01:41:51,632
are contributing to our

2394
01:41:51,632 --> 01:41:52,933
mortgage and and to the upkeep

2395
01:41:52,933 --> 01:41:56,503
and it's allowed my kids to go

2396
01:41:56,503 --> 01:41:57,538
to a really good school and

2397
01:41:57,538 --> 01:42:01,138
really just opened up a lot

2398
01:42:01,441 --> 01:42:03,310
opportunities for family in

2399
01:42:03,310 --> 01:42:06,310
general. So, yeah, I encourage

2400
01:42:07,948 --> 01:42:08,716
you to to be expansive in your

2401
01:42:08,716 --> 01:42:09,416
in your definitions of

2402
01:42:09,416 --> 01:42:12,416
housing, what it looks like,

2403
01:42:13,754 --> 01:42:15,922
what it could be. And and and

2404
01:42:15,922 --> 01:42:16,557
really think about how it

2405
01:42:16,557 --> 01:42:17,257
makes. Your life changing

2406
01:42:17,257 --> 01:42:19,159
difference for everybody who

2407
01:42:19,159 --> 01:42:21,929
is able to. To have a stable

2408
01:42:21,929 --> 01:42:23,929
home.

2409
01:42:25,899 --> 01:42:26,600
>> Thank you. All right.

2410
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:27,234
Moving on to Terrell. We're

2411
01:42:27,234 --> 01:42:29,669
going to follow that with

2412
01:42:29,669 --> 01:42:30,237
Jessica. Darrell. Go right

2413
01:42:30,237 --> 01:42:32,637
ahead. I've been able

2414
01:42:33,406 --> 01:42:35,406
permissions.

2415
01:42:35,509 --> 01:42:36,777
>> Yeah, I think city

2416
01:42:36,777 --> 01:42:39,177
councilmembers. My name is

2417
01:42:40,181 --> 01:42:40,847
Daryl land and I'm speaking

2418
01:42:40,847 --> 01:42:43,247
behalf of common space

2419
01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:45,786
community Land Trust. We're a

2420
01:42:45,786 --> 01:42:47,786
local nonprofit

2421
01:42:48,756 --> 01:42:49,456
community-based affordable

2422
01:42:49,456 --> 01:42:50,900
housing organization working

2423
01:42:50,900 --> 01:42:50,724
throughout Sonoma County,

2424
01:42:50,724 --> 01:42:54,324
along with in the city of

2425
01:42:54,628 --> 01:42:55,529
Santa Rosa. And Common spaces.

2426
01:42:55,529 --> 01:42:58,899
Housing mission is to U.S. 3

2427
01:42:58,899 --> 01:43:00,301
part to protect, preserve and

2428
01:43:00,301 --> 01:43:02,701
produce affordable housing for

2429
01:43:04,472 --> 01:43:05,573
our community members. Today

2430
01:43:05,573 --> 01:43:06,206
before the council's a choice

2431
01:43:06,206 --> 01:43:09,206
to look at adopting this

2432
01:43:10,844 --> 01:43:13,781
statewide law that. Allow the

2433
01:43:13,781 --> 01:43:14,415
city take another step in

2434
01:43:14,415 --> 01:43:15,950
expanding the protect the

2435
01:43:15,950 --> 01:43:18,850
production side of the House

2436
01:43:18,850 --> 01:43:19,787
and question. And that is why

2437
01:43:19,787 --> 01:43:22,890
like I would like to speak to

2438
01:43:22,890 --> 01:43:23,523
our organization's support for

2439
01:43:23,523 --> 01:43:25,923
sb 10 and encourage this

2440
01:43:26,326 --> 01:43:29,864
council to look at a broad

2441
01:43:29,864 --> 01:43:30,598
adoption of zone. For all the

2442
01:43:30,598 --> 01:43:31,299
urban infill parcels

2443
01:43:31,299 --> 01:43:34,299
throughout the city of Santa

2444
01:43:34,702 --> 01:43:38,302
Rosa. I think it's key to

2445
01:43:38,305 --> 01:43:39,373
remember that this is up to 10

2446
01:43:39,373 --> 01:43:40,410
houses, 10 units. It doesn't

2447
01:43:40,410 --> 01:43:43,641
mean that all 10 need to be

2448
01:43:44,445 --> 01:43:45,780
developed when it comes

2449
01:43:45,780 --> 01:43:46,481
housing affordability. The

2450
01:43:46,481 --> 01:43:49,517
math is simple. We simply do

2451
01:43:49,517 --> 01:43:50,952
not housing to keep up with

2452
01:43:50,952 --> 01:43:51,552
Santa Rosa needs more housing

2453
01:43:51,552 --> 01:43:54,552
options for more of our

2454
01:43:56,523 --> 01:43:57,191
community members. While

2455
01:43:57,191 --> 01:43:57,859
recognizing this issues is

2456
01:43:57,859 --> 01:44:00,259
considered simple answer is

2457
01:44:01,796 --> 01:44:02,930
complex. The city planning

2458
01:44:02,930 --> 01:44:04,632
staff and council members over

2459
01:44:04,632 --> 01:44:06,467
the past 5 years have made

2460
01:44:06,467 --> 01:44:07,135
good choices on moving forward

2461
01:44:07,135 --> 01:44:09,535
with progressive zoning and

2462
01:44:10,772 --> 01:44:11,439
housing policy changes and

2463
01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:12,373
they've been implemented. A

2464
01:44:12,373 --> 01:44:13,107
number of changes to the

2465
01:44:13,107 --> 01:44:16,643
zoning bags that have led more

2466
01:44:16,643 --> 01:44:18,790
housing being built. But

2467
01:44:18,790 --> 01:44:18,713
that's said I'm certain that

2468
01:44:18,713 --> 01:44:20,682
the county council should

2469
01:44:20,682 --> 01:44:21,849
choose to make more

2470
01:44:21,849 --> 01:44:23,849
progressive and expansive

2471
01:44:25,190 --> 01:44:26,420
steps to updating and owning

2472
01:44:26,420 --> 01:44:28,820
the city zoning regulations.

2473
01:44:29,290 --> 01:44:29,991
This will only encourage and

2474
01:44:29,991 --> 01:44:31,926
and be a signal that the city

2475
01:44:31,926 --> 01:44:34,562
is doing the right their part.

2476
01:44:34,562 --> 01:44:36,962
To build more housing.

2477
01:44:38,766 --> 01:44:39,433
>> Thank you, Carol.

2478
01:44:39,433 --> 01:44:40,100
>> Going to be moving on to

2479
01:44:40,100 --> 01:44:42,500
Jessica. Jessica. Go ahead

2480
01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:48,600
unable permissions.

2481
01:44:49,210 --> 01:44:52,210
>> can you hear me yet?

2482
01:44:52,246 --> 01:44:53,247
>> Good And city council

2483
01:44:53,247 --> 01:44:55,316
members. My name is Jessica

2484
01:44:55,316 --> 01:44:58,286
and I am a massive social work

2485
01:44:58,286 --> 01:45:00,540
student at University Southern

2486
01:45:00,540 --> 01:45:00,721
California. I also work as a

2487
01:45:00,721 --> 01:45:03,121
psp prenatal cordinator as

2488
01:45:03,158 --> 01:45:04,358
Santa Rosa Community Health

2489
01:45:04,358 --> 01:45:06,427
where I work closely with

2490
01:45:06,427 --> 01:45:07,395
pregnant women and families in

2491
01:45:07,395 --> 01:45:09,363
our community. I moved to

2492
01:45:09,363 --> 01:45:11,466
Saint Rose in APRIL of this

2493
01:45:11,466 --> 01:45:12,233
year. And one thing I notice

2494
01:45:12,233 --> 01:45:14,602
is how difficult it is for

2495
01:45:14,602 --> 01:45:16,538
families to find affordable

2496
01:45:16,538 --> 01:45:17,739
housing. I understand that is

2497
01:45:17,739 --> 01:45:19,274
the tenants being discussed as

2498
01:45:19,274 --> 01:45:21,109
a way to allow more housing

2499
01:45:21,109 --> 01:45:23,478
development in certain areas.

2500
01:45:23,478 --> 01:45:25,113
Santa Rosa, while increasing

2501
01:45:25,113 --> 01:45:26,147
housing opportunities is

2502
01:45:26,147 --> 01:45:26,880
important. I also believe we

2503
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:27,582
need to consider whether these

2504
01:45:27,582 --> 01:45:29,651
homes will be affordable and

2505
01:45:29,651 --> 01:45:31,419
accessible to low-income

2506
01:45:31,419 --> 01:45:32,621
families through my work, I

2507
01:45:32,621 --> 01:45:33,822
think are encountered pregnant

2508
01:45:33,822 --> 01:45:34,489
women who are living in their

2509
01:45:34,489 --> 01:45:35,156
cars were rooms are staying

2510
01:45:35,156 --> 01:45:37,556
with relatives because they

2511
01:45:38,593 --> 01:45:39,294
cannot afford housing. One

2512
01:45:39,294 --> 01:45:40,228
situation. I really concerns

2513
01:45:40,228 --> 01:45:40,929
me is pregnant women with

2514
01:45:40,929 --> 01:45:43,329
gestational diabetes who need

2515
01:45:43,632 --> 01:45:44,265
insulin but are living out of

2516
01:45:44,265 --> 01:45:46,401
their cars without stable

2517
01:45:46,401 --> 01:45:48,503
housing. Even something as a

2518
01:45:48,503 --> 01:45:49,204
basic they as having a safe

2519
01:45:49,204 --> 01:45:51,740
place to store medication can

2520
01:45:51,740 --> 01:45:52,340
become a challenge. I

2521
01:45:52,340 --> 01:45:53,400
regularly help connect

2522
01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:55,440
families with resources such

2523
01:45:56,378 --> 01:45:57,478
as Burbank, housing. But there

2524
01:45:57,478 --> 01:45:58,780
are often limited openings and

2525
01:45:58,780 --> 01:45:59,714
families must meet specific

2526
01:45:59,714 --> 01:46:02,114
eligibility requirements as a

2527
01:46:02,551 --> 01:46:03,685
city Council considers sb 10.

2528
01:46:03,685 --> 01:46:04,786
I encourage you to think about

2529
01:46:04,786 --> 01:46:06,621
how additional housing

2530
01:46:06,621 --> 01:46:07,255
development can also address

2531
01:46:07,255 --> 01:46:07,989
affordability and

2532
01:46:07,989 --> 01:46:10,325
accessibility for families who

2533
01:46:10,325 --> 01:46:11,993
need it. Most housing is more

2534
01:46:11,993 --> 01:46:13,729
than just a roof over

2535
01:46:13,729 --> 01:46:14,396
someone's head. It affects

2536
01:46:14,396 --> 01:46:15,697
physical health and mental

2537
01:46:15,697 --> 01:46:16,398
health and the well-being of

2538
01:46:16,398 --> 01:46:19,398
our community. Thank you very

2539
01:46:23,505 --> 01:46:24,238
for your time. Thank you,

2540
01:46:24,238 --> 01:46:26,638
>> There's anyone else. Please

2541
01:46:27,709 --> 01:46:31,309
raise your hand. Back to you.

2542
01:46:31,880 --> 01:46:32,480
Mayor.

2543
01:46:32,480 --> 01:46:33,115
>> Thank you very much,

2544
01:46:33,115 --> 01:46:34,150
Lauren. Alright, back to

2545
01:46:34,150 --> 01:46:35,917
council for final discussion

2546
01:46:35,917 --> 01:46:38,917
and any direction to staff.

2547
01:46:39,220 --> 01:46:41,620
Thoughts. Ben Willis. Thank

2548
01:46:42,991 --> 01:46:44,991
you, Mayor.

2549
01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:49,560
>> The kind of go back and

2550
01:46:52,901 --> 01:46:53,769
forth options 2, 3, I don't

2551
01:46:53,769 --> 01:46:54,603
want our hands to be tied in

2552
01:46:54,603 --> 01:46:56,371
anyway. So that's why I'm

2553
01:46:56,371 --> 01:46:58,771
leaning toward the broad

2554
01:46:59,108 --> 01:47:01,109
implementation. But I would

2555
01:47:01,109 --> 01:47:02,577
like to see and I know we

2556
01:47:02,577 --> 01:47:03,312
can't necessarily dictate

2557
01:47:03,312 --> 01:47:05,881
this. But what I would like to

2558
01:47:05,881 --> 01:47:09,481
see is the low in low-income

2559
01:47:10,180 --> 01:47:13,618
housing be a focus and not

2560
01:47:14,957 --> 01:47:15,691
just market rate

2561
01:47:15,691 --> 01:47:18,460
>> a diversity of housing. And

2562
01:47:18,460 --> 01:47:19,128
I know that's been been

2563
01:47:19,128 --> 01:47:19,828
somewhere where it MAY be.

2564
01:47:19,828 --> 01:47:21,997
When I was reading the staff

2565
01:47:21,997 --> 01:47:23,997
reported talked about

2566
01:47:24,599 --> 01:47:26,402
diversity of different types

2567
01:47:26,402 --> 01:47:27,100
of housing, which I think

2568
01:47:27,100 --> 01:47:27,703
Santa Rosa really needs

2569
01:47:27,703 --> 01:47:30,606
because I don't think we have

2570
01:47:30,606 --> 01:47:31,473
that. And especially when I

2571
01:47:31,473 --> 01:47:33,873
look at other jurisdictions

2572
01:47:34,810 --> 01:47:35,477
just even around us, we don't

2573
01:47:35,477 --> 01:47:38,477
have the kind of diversity

2574
01:47:40,150 --> 01:47:42,840
that a lot of cities have. And

2575
01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:43,886
then I think it was mentioned

2576
01:47:43,886 --> 01:47:45,886
the objective designs

2577
01:47:46,540 --> 01:47:46,855
standards. So that's why think

2578
01:47:46,855 --> 01:47:48,257
it's kind of a combination of

2579
01:47:48,257 --> 01:47:49,900
2, 3, but that's sort of the

2580
01:47:49,900 --> 01:47:51,594
direction I would like to see

2581
01:47:51,594 --> 01:47:52,260
us going. I know we need more

2582
01:47:52,260 --> 01:47:52,995
housing. That's not even a

2583
01:47:52,995 --> 01:47:56,595
question is just a question. I

2584
01:48:00,903 --> 01:48:01,603
think of how we utilize sb 10

2585
01:48:01,603 --> 01:48:02,838
I don't like I said, I don't

2586
01:48:02,838 --> 01:48:03,772
want to see us tire hands, but

2587
01:48:03,772 --> 01:48:07,510
I think I would love for us to

2588
01:48:07,510 --> 01:48:08,177
move in that direction if

2589
01:48:08,177 --> 01:48:08,911
there was anything else. I

2590
01:48:08,911 --> 01:48:12,511
want to mention, I think those

2591
01:48:14,316 --> 01:48:16,952
are the for me at this time.

2592
01:48:16,952 --> 01:48:19,352
Thank Other thoughts. MR.

2593
01:48:21,991 --> 01:48:23,991
Rogers. So

2594
01:48:26,429 --> 01:48:28,831
>> thoughts. I did have a a

2595
01:48:28,831 --> 01:48:30,666
question. So the multifamily

2596
01:48:30,666 --> 01:48:33,269
when we talk about multifamily

2597
01:48:33,269 --> 01:48:35,271
units for me, that's maybe we

2598
01:48:35,271 --> 01:48:35,938
can possibly start getting to

2599
01:48:35,938 --> 01:48:37,938
the

2600
01:48:39,141 --> 01:48:41,430
>> entry level into home

2601
01:48:41,430 --> 01:48:41,877
ownership. Do we not have any

2602
01:48:41,877 --> 01:48:44,877
tools right now other than 80

2603
01:48:46,248 --> 01:48:48,918
use where people can build the

2604
01:48:48,918 --> 01:48:51,153
duplexes and try Plex is in

2605
01:48:51,153 --> 01:48:52,721
different types of development

2606
01:48:52,721 --> 01:48:54,590
that will allow people to get

2607
01:48:54,590 --> 01:48:57,590
into the entry level home

2608
01:48:59,962 --> 01:49:01,631
ownership. Yes, thank you for

2609
01:49:01,631 --> 01:49:02,732
that question. So the code

2610
01:49:02,732 --> 01:49:05,132
does currently allow duplexes

2611
01:49:05,234 --> 01:49:07,634
and triplex is in.

2612
01:49:07,904 --> 01:49:09,400
>> Our single family

2613
01:49:09,400 --> 01:49:11,400
residential neighborhoods

2614
01:49:11,374 --> 01:49:14,343
duplexes and have plex is

2615
01:49:14,343 --> 01:49:15,711
recently. We change our code

2616
01:49:15,711 --> 01:49:17,146
regulations prior they they

2617
01:49:17,146 --> 01:49:18,214
required a minor conditional

2618
01:49:18,214 --> 01:49:21,214
use permit are low density

2619
01:49:22,180 --> 01:49:23,850
areas that requirement was

2620
01:49:23,850 --> 01:49:26,850
removed. They are now allowed

2621
01:49:26,922 --> 01:49:27,924
by rate. So just needs to

2622
01:49:27,924 --> 01:49:29,924
maintain density. But

2623
01:49:29,992 --> 01:49:31,360
additional units be on a

2624
01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:32,950
duplex or half plex requires a

2625
01:49:32,950 --> 01:49:35,950
minor. Sorry, a director level

2626
01:49:35,198 --> 01:49:35,898
use permit. But it is allowed

2627
01:49:35,898 --> 01:49:39,836
in our all of our low density

2628
01:49:39,836 --> 01:49:41,836
residential neighborhoods.

2629
01:49:43,839 --> 01:49:45,274
>> what can we do?

2630
01:49:45,274 --> 01:49:48,274
>> To support or ensure that

2631
01:49:48,511 --> 01:49:49,178
these units are affordable

2632
01:49:49,178 --> 01:49:52,480
because I think one of the

2633
01:49:52,480 --> 01:49:52,815
public commenter said it best

2634
01:49:52,815 --> 01:49:53,449
just because we build it

2635
01:49:53,449 --> 01:49:55,184
doesn't mean that they're

2636
01:49:55,184 --> 01:49:58,184
going to be affordable. So

2637
01:50:00,890 --> 01:50:01,570
what can we do as a city to

2638
01:50:01,570 --> 01:50:03,426
ensure that if we move forward

2639
01:50:03,426 --> 01:50:06,426
with sb 10. That there's some

2640
01:50:06,496 --> 01:50:10,960
incentive. For the units to be

2641
01:50:13,269 --> 01:50:15,269
affordable.

2642
01:50:15,404 --> 01:50:16,405
>> So I think that's something

2643
01:50:16,405 --> 01:50:17,507
that we would need to look

2644
01:50:17,507 --> 01:50:21,100
closely We can work with our

2645
01:50:21,100 --> 01:50:21,711
housing department on that

2646
01:50:21,711 --> 01:50:23,711
requirement for affordability

2647
01:50:27,250 --> 01:50:28,351
you know, includes going into

2648
01:50:28,351 --> 01:50:29,119
contract with development

2649
01:50:29,119 --> 01:50:29,819
project. But we could

2650
01:50:29,819 --> 01:50:31,888
certainly look at incentives

2651
01:50:31,888 --> 01:50:33,690
and ways to encourage and

2652
01:50:33,690 --> 01:50:36,690
affordability as part of this.

2653
01:50:37,827 --> 01:50:38,194
Something like this moving

2654
01:50:38,194 --> 01:50:40,194
forward.

2655
01:50:41,798 --> 01:50:42,599
>> And if we're going based on

2656
01:50:42,599 --> 01:50:43,199
Omar's comment, I think of

2657
01:50:43,199 --> 01:50:45,199
affordability is deemed

2658
01:50:45,969 --> 01:50:47,637
appropriate for whoever its

2659
01:50:47,637 --> 01:50:49,472
purchase saying. So there

2660
01:50:49,472 --> 01:50:51,908
really is nothing to say that

2661
01:50:51,908 --> 01:50:52,208
something is affordable. But

2662
01:50:52,208 --> 01:50:54,208
if we

2663
01:50:55,412 --> 01:50:57,714
>> what that ladder where

2664
01:50:57,714 --> 01:50:58,415
people can start or have entry

2665
01:50:58,415 --> 01:51:00,317
into home ownership and then

2666
01:51:00,317 --> 01:51:01,283
go to the next and then go to

2667
01:51:01,283 --> 01:51:03,190
the next.

2668
01:51:03,190 --> 01:51:04,540
>> We do need different

2669
01:51:04,540 --> 01:51:07,540
different types of units. We

2670
01:51:07,122 --> 01:51:08,625
need different income brackets

2671
01:51:08,625 --> 01:51:11,625
that qualify for those units

2672
01:51:13,762 --> 01:51:14,464
in and so on. But what

2673
01:51:14,464 --> 01:51:18,640
>> what I kind don't want is

2674
01:51:19,169 --> 01:51:21,304
just for us to. Build housing

2675
01:51:21,304 --> 01:51:22,205
only for a developer or

2676
01:51:22,205 --> 01:51:24,975
someone to come in. That

2677
01:51:24,975 --> 01:51:25,675
doesn't live in our community

2678
01:51:25,675 --> 01:51:29,875
in by a bunch of housing and

2679
01:51:29,979 --> 01:51:32,379
then rent it out.

2680
01:51:33,830 --> 01:51:33,550
>> To our community members

2681
01:51:33,550 --> 01:51:34,217
because that's

2682
01:51:34,217 --> 01:51:35,852
counterproductive. I mean,

2683
01:51:35,852 --> 01:51:37,540
that's not doing what it is

2684
01:51:37,540 --> 01:51:37,754
that we want to happen in that

2685
01:51:37,754 --> 01:51:40,754
is for our community members

2686
01:51:41,458 --> 01:51:43,526
to be able have home ownership

2687
01:51:43,526 --> 01:51:45,926
to start building that

2688
01:51:46,730 --> 01:51:49,320
generational wealth that we

2689
01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:49,599
know can can definitely change

2690
01:51:49,599 --> 01:51:51,999
the trajectory of our

2691
01:51:53,103 --> 01:51:55,103
families.

2692
01:51:56,206 --> 01:51:58,375
>> And then the Sebastopol

2693
01:51:58,375 --> 01:51:59,609
example of building the 4

2694
01:51:59,609 --> 01:52:00,242
homes. There was the public

2695
01:52:00,242 --> 01:52:00,910
commentary that gave the

2696
01:52:00,910 --> 01:52:03,747
example of that. It's about

2697
01:52:03,747 --> 01:52:04,948
the pool.

2698
01:52:04,948 --> 01:52:06,416
>> Example. Is that not

2699
01:52:06,416 --> 01:52:07,117
something that we would be

2700
01:52:07,117 --> 01:52:10,286
able to do now with the tools

2701
01:52:10,286 --> 01:52:14,486
that we have? To put for units

2702
01:52:15,240 --> 01:52:19,224
on on a parcel. I think that

2703
01:52:20,197 --> 01:52:21,632
was that her example right? So

2704
01:52:21,632 --> 01:52:22,499
need to look at what they

2705
01:52:22,499 --> 01:52:25,235
example was in and I think it

2706
01:52:25,235 --> 01:52:25,569
would depend on a case-by-case

2707
01:52:25,569 --> 01:52:26,236
basis.

2708
01:52:26,236 --> 01:52:28,505
>> Where it is and the city

2709
01:52:28,505 --> 01:52:29,173
with the zoning is with the

2710
01:52:29,173 --> 01:52:32,173
density is that, you know,

2711
01:52:33,242 --> 01:52:35,312
again, our code does allow for

2712
01:52:35,312 --> 01:52:36,946
duplexes and have plex is in

2713
01:52:36,946 --> 01:52:39,346
our single-family areas by

2714
01:52:39,383 --> 01:52:39,950
rate so and then, of course,

2715
01:52:39,950 --> 01:52:40,651
there's you know, the

2716
01:52:40,651 --> 01:52:43,651
additional units that can be

2717
01:52:44,188 --> 01:52:45,289
added through 8 eu law. And,

2718
01:52:45,289 --> 01:52:45,956
you know, certainly we've got

2719
01:52:45,956 --> 01:52:46,657
our missing middle housing

2720
01:52:46,657 --> 01:52:49,592
ordinance to laws a lot more.

2721
01:52:49,592 --> 01:52:50,326
So I think there's a lot of

2722
01:52:50,326 --> 01:52:52,296
variables there, but something

2723
01:52:52,296 --> 01:52:52,763
that we could certainly look

2724
01:52:52,763 --> 01:52:54,763
into.

2725
01:52:55,799 --> 01:52:56,800
>> So I did get another book

2726
01:52:56,800 --> 01:52:57,500
that I need to read out of it.

2727
01:52:57,500 --> 01:53:00,304
So I think that that's great

2728
01:53:00,304 --> 01:53:04,308
color of law. But if it's the

2729
01:53:04,308 --> 01:53:07,277
will of the council, I I'm

2730
01:53:07,277 --> 01:53:10,877
okay be 10. I think it needs

2731
01:53:12,682 --> 01:53:13,317
to be targeted. Because I

2732
01:53:13,317 --> 01:53:15,717
think that that's really

2733
01:53:16,587 --> 01:53:17,287
important. Some at commenters

2734
01:53:17,287 --> 01:53:17,988
gave examples of how you can

2735
01:53:17,988 --> 01:53:19,990
be in a neighborhood. I think

2736
01:53:19,990 --> 01:53:21,692
it was Chan and you can be in

2737
01:53:21,692 --> 01:53:23,828
a neighborhood and you not

2738
01:53:23,828 --> 01:53:26,697
even know that. That is multi

2739
01:53:26,697 --> 01:53:28,666
unit because it was by design.

2740
01:53:28,666 --> 01:53:30,800
And so I think that we really

2741
01:53:30,800 --> 01:53:31,535
need to because once we

2742
01:53:31,535 --> 01:53:33,771
implemented won't go away that

2743
01:53:33,771 --> 01:53:37,371
we really need to make sure

2744
01:53:39,176 --> 01:53:39,677
that is something that we

2745
01:53:39,677 --> 01:53:40,377
target in certain

2746
01:53:40,377 --> 01:53:42,580
neighborhoods and because it

2747
01:53:42,580 --> 01:53:44,515
fits that neighborhood, not

2748
01:53:44,515 --> 01:53:46,483
just say it, we can do it

2749
01:53:46,483 --> 01:53:49,483
anywhere. I don't think that

2750
01:53:50,121 --> 01:53:53,624
that would be helpful for us.

2751
01:53:53,624 --> 01:53:55,250
We need to have a plan about

2752
01:53:55,250 --> 01:53:58,396
what it looks like in in 20

2753
01:53:58,396 --> 01:53:59,430
years from now. If this is

2754
01:53:59,430 --> 01:54:03,300
something that we are going to

2755
01:54:03,670 --> 01:54:06,570
have to continue to use and we

2756
01:54:06,570 --> 01:54:10,170
can't take it back. So. Thank

2757
01:54:11,141 --> 01:54:13,141
you. MISS Funding.

2758
01:54:14,312 --> 01:54:15,245
>> I think more or less made

2759
01:54:15,245 --> 01:54:18,215
my interest clear earlier. But

2760
01:54:18,215 --> 01:54:20,751
I'll reiterate that I think we

2761
01:54:20,751 --> 01:54:21,452
should move forward with

2762
01:54:21,452 --> 01:54:23,788
except in the wildland urban

2763
01:54:23,788 --> 01:54:26,788
interface and except in the

2764
01:54:27,910 --> 01:54:29,600
>> flood plains that we should

2765
01:54:29,600 --> 01:54:31,280
also bring forward objective

2766
01:54:31,280 --> 01:54:31,761
design standards and that we

2767
01:54:31,761 --> 01:54:33,865
should when it comes back to

2768
01:54:33,865 --> 01:54:36,265
the full Council for

2769
01:54:37,601 --> 01:54:40,100
implementation that we ought

2770
01:54:40,438 --> 01:54:41,805
have a night words, not

2771
01:54:41,805 --> 01:54:44,575
displacing renters, but not in

2772
01:54:44,575 --> 01:54:46,344
such a way that precludes us

2773
01:54:46,344 --> 01:54:47,979
from getting the housing

2774
01:54:47,979 --> 01:54:48,546
ultimately built because the

2775
01:54:48,546 --> 01:54:49,781
more housing that is

2776
01:54:49,781 --> 01:54:51,781
available, whether it's

2777
01:54:52,917 --> 01:54:55,917
ownership or rental more stock

2778
01:54:56,421 --> 01:54:57,121
we need. We need staff at

2779
01:54:57,121 --> 01:54:58,389
affordable by design. We need

2780
01:54:58,389 --> 01:55:00,789
stock illegally affordable. We

2781
01:55:02,460 --> 01:55:03,294
need stock at market rate. And

2782
01:55:03,294 --> 01:55:04,829
as somebody who lives in the

2783
01:55:04,829 --> 01:55:05,229
neighborhood that Jen

2784
01:55:05,229 --> 01:55:07,229
mentioned.

2785
01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:09,701
>> One of hit. It's my

2786
01:55:09,701 --> 01:55:10,301
understanding that these

2787
01:55:10,301 --> 01:55:12,301
neighborhoods were not

2788
01:55:14,639 --> 01:55:15,306
designed such a way that that

2789
01:55:15,306 --> 01:55:16,741
precluded this multi-family

2790
01:55:16,741 --> 01:55:17,675
housing, that it's the newer

2791
01:55:17,675 --> 01:55:18,343
neighborhoods, the suburban

2792
01:55:18,343 --> 01:55:19,877
outlying neighborhoods and

2793
01:55:19,877 --> 01:55:20,979
Tanner is that they were

2794
01:55:20,979 --> 01:55:22,979
designed for only

2795
01:55:25,550 --> 01:55:26,217
single-family housing that the

2796
01:55:26,217 --> 01:55:28,217
market build single-family

2797
01:55:28,386 --> 01:55:30,386
housing alongside multifamily

2798
01:55:30,488 --> 01:55:32,290
housing without regulation. It

2799
01:55:32,290 --> 01:55:34,993
was that when the regulation

2800
01:55:34,993 --> 01:55:37,610
came in, it was really

2801
01:55:37,610 --> 01:55:37,996
intended to push folks of

2802
01:55:37,996 --> 01:55:39,597
color, lower-income folks

2803
01:55:39,597 --> 01:55:40,265
further and further out. And,

2804
01:55:40,265 --> 01:55:41,533
you know, we see that both

2805
01:55:41,533 --> 01:55:43,902
within our cities and within

2806
01:55:43,902 --> 01:55:44,401
our metropolitan area that

2807
01:55:44,401 --> 01:55:45,602
when we zoned for

2808
01:55:45,602 --> 01:55:48,200
single-family housing and we

2809
01:55:48,673 --> 01:55:50,750
have then city limits and how,

2810
01:55:50,750 --> 01:55:50,742
you know, car parking minimums

2811
01:55:50,742 --> 01:55:51,476
that people get further and

2812
01:55:51,476 --> 01:55:54,579
further pushed out. And if you

2813
01:55:54,579 --> 01:55:55,413
look at it, the city like San

2814
01:55:55,413 --> 01:55:57,248
Francisco, the African

2815
01:55:57,248 --> 01:55:58,583
American population continues

2816
01:55:58,583 --> 01:56:00,552
decline. Well, the Central

2817
01:56:00,552 --> 01:56:03,421
Valley continues to grow. And

2818
01:56:03,421 --> 01:56:05,821
so and suburbanization and

2819
01:56:05,857 --> 01:56:06,825
single family dwellings have

2820
01:56:06,825 --> 01:56:07,625
had a really negative effect

2821
01:56:07,625 --> 01:56:11,225
on our community. And this is

2822
01:56:11,496 --> 01:56:13,198
one small step we We can take

2823
01:56:13,198 --> 01:56:13,898
towards towards reversing that

2824
01:56:13,898 --> 01:56:15,500
pattern in all. Just also add

2825
01:56:15,500 --> 01:56:17,469
that I think that

2826
01:56:17,469 --> 01:56:19,337
opportunities for home

2827
01:56:19,337 --> 01:56:19,871
ownership are not necessarily

2828
01:56:19,871 --> 01:56:21,871
always better than

2829
01:56:22,173 --> 01:56:23,508
opportunities for renting. We

2830
01:56:23,508 --> 01:56:25,908
know that the market

2831
01:56:26,511 --> 01:56:27,746
consistently outperforms home

2832
01:56:27,746 --> 01:56:29,281
equity and home equity and

2833
01:56:29,281 --> 01:56:30,982
living in owning a home offer

2834
01:56:30,982 --> 01:56:31,882
stability in all kinds of

2835
01:56:31,882 --> 01:56:33,882
wonderful outcomes for

2836
01:56:34,850 --> 01:56:36,485
children. But it's not

2837
01:56:36,887 --> 01:56:38,223
necessarily and efficient

2838
01:56:38,223 --> 01:56:39,257
financial tool. What to my

2839
01:56:39,257 --> 01:56:41,292
mind when I saw when I went to

2840
01:56:41,292 --> 01:56:43,295
Vienna really great for

2841
01:56:43,295 --> 01:56:44,129
mobility is having lots of

2842
01:56:44,129 --> 01:56:46,131
housing at lots of different

2843
01:56:46,131 --> 01:56:46,832
income levels. Rental

2844
01:56:46,832 --> 01:56:48,266
ownership, limited Equity, Co

2845
01:56:48,266 --> 01:56:49,734
housing, all of the things.

2846
01:56:49,734 --> 01:56:52,403
And so that people flexibility

2847
01:56:52,403 --> 01:56:53,638
throughout their life cycles

2848
01:56:53,638 --> 01:56:55,374
to come and go and do what

2849
01:56:55,374 --> 01:56:56,708
they need to do. And maybe the

2850
01:56:56,708 --> 01:56:58,143
housing is a way that they

2851
01:56:58,143 --> 01:56:59,100
build equity and wealth, but

2852
01:56:59,100 --> 01:56:59,710
maybe it's through the market

2853
01:56:59,710 --> 01:57:02,247
or through whatever else. And

2854
01:57:02,247 --> 01:57:04,149
people aren't tethered to one

2855
01:57:04,149 --> 01:57:06,149
geographic location for

2856
01:57:06,317 --> 01:57:07,653
fraternity. So, you know,

2857
01:57:07,653 --> 01:57:10,530
mostly what Carolyn Manuela

2858
01:57:10,588 --> 01:57:12,491
said. I second that and I look

2859
01:57:12,491 --> 01:57:13,859
forward to hearing when it

2860
01:57:13,859 --> 01:57:17,459
comes probably at home on my

2861
01:57:19,665 --> 01:57:22,665
tv. Thank you, MR. Donald.

2862
01:57:23,635 --> 01:57:24,703
>> Thank you. I actually

2863
01:57:24,703 --> 01:57:26,638
really appreciate council

2864
01:57:26,638 --> 01:57:27,606
member from means, you her

2865
01:57:27,606 --> 01:57:28,306
background and all of her

2866
01:57:28,306 --> 01:57:29,410
knowledge around housing. And

2867
01:57:29,410 --> 01:57:30,841
so I appreciate all your

2868
01:57:30,841 --> 01:57:31,877
comments tonight.

2869
01:57:31,877 --> 01:57:33,877
Councilmember Fleming with

2870
01:57:35,846 --> 01:57:36,582
that said, I have concern over

2871
01:57:36,582 --> 01:57:37,749
a blanket on sb 10 and some of

2872
01:57:37,749 --> 01:57:40,953
it is the work that I think

2873
01:57:40,953 --> 01:57:42,220
has to go into our high-risk

2874
01:57:42,220 --> 01:57:42,888
areas. Obviously, my district,

2875
01:57:42,888 --> 01:57:46,358
I really represent a lot of

2876
01:57:46,358 --> 01:57:49,294
folks that are in the wee and

2877
01:57:49,294 --> 01:57:50,280
we just out to come out that

2878
01:57:50,280 --> 01:57:53,650
showed high risk on fire. So I

2879
01:57:53,650 --> 01:57:54,433
think safety is paramount for

2880
01:57:54,433 --> 01:57:56,101
me on exit routes, making sure

2881
01:57:56,101 --> 01:57:56,935
that people in the event of

2882
01:57:56,935 --> 01:57:59,935
any type of natural disaster,

2883
01:58:00,605 --> 01:58:01,607
whether it's flooding or

2884
01:58:01,607 --> 01:58:02,307
potentially fires that that's

2885
01:58:02,307 --> 01:58:05,307
considered. And I'm not sure

2886
01:58:05,511 --> 01:58:06,412
that as beach n covers that

2887
01:58:06,412 --> 01:58:08,414
because of the ability to move

2888
01:58:08,414 --> 01:58:11,517
forward. So I think that would

2889
01:58:11,517 --> 01:58:13,451
be something that would be of

2890
01:58:13,451 --> 01:58:16,455
great concern to me. And what

2891
01:58:16,455 --> 01:58:17,690
I've heard is great concern to

2892
01:58:17,690 --> 01:58:20,359
my district. I also think the

2893
01:58:20,359 --> 01:58:22,661
idea of having a cap on how

2894
01:58:22,661 --> 01:58:23,395
many we can do potentially any

2895
01:58:23,395 --> 01:58:24,128
year would help with staff and

2896
01:58:24,128 --> 01:58:27,499
impact and so that we're doing

2897
01:58:27,499 --> 01:58:30,350
it slowly. I do not feel

2898
01:58:30,350 --> 01:58:30,636
comfortable doing a blanket on

2899
01:58:30,636 --> 01:58:33,360
sb 10. Something MAY be

2900
01:58:33,380 --> 01:58:36,380
targeted areas and that can

2901
01:58:36,775 --> 01:58:38,510
allow for higher density is

2902
01:58:38,510 --> 01:58:40,546
something that I would be more

2903
01:58:40,546 --> 01:58:41,246
interested in. I don't know

2904
01:58:41,246 --> 01:58:43,749
that no further action would

2905
01:58:43,749 --> 01:58:46,385
be something any of us really

2906
01:58:46,385 --> 01:58:47,520
want to do because we know the

2907
01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:47,653
high need for housing Santa

2908
01:58:47,653 --> 01:58:50,530
Rosa and Sonoma County,

2909
01:58:51,220 --> 01:58:51,890
specifically. So I'm I'm not

2910
01:58:51,890 --> 01:58:53,492
sure I want to do that, but I

2911
01:58:53,492 --> 01:58:54,259
also want to make sure that

2912
01:58:54,259 --> 01:58:56,928
we're able to complete the

2913
01:58:56,928 --> 01:58:57,596
projects that we have in

2914
01:58:57,596 --> 01:58:58,864
place. Now. And that's top

2915
01:58:58,864 --> 01:59:01,834
isn't deterred because now we

2916
01:59:01,834 --> 01:59:03,102
have a and new shiny object

2917
01:59:03,102 --> 01:59:04,360
that might work. And we tend

2918
01:59:04,360 --> 01:59:06,205
to want to do that where we

2919
01:59:06,205 --> 01:59:07,306
want to put everything in this

2920
01:59:07,306 --> 01:59:10,776
bucket of. We can fix it all.

2921
01:59:10,776 --> 01:59:11,510
And so I want to be mindful of

2922
01:59:11,510 --> 01:59:14,510
what we're currently doing and

2923
01:59:14,847 --> 01:59:15,881
not overload our staff. So I

2924
01:59:15,881 --> 01:59:17,916
would be interested in seeing

2925
01:59:17,916 --> 01:59:19,418
almost like a Pilate of

2926
01:59:19,418 --> 01:59:20,520
something coming back on a

2927
01:59:20,520 --> 01:59:20,719
targeted. I don't know if

2928
01:59:20,719 --> 01:59:23,119
that's allowed under sb 10

2929
01:59:24,690 --> 01:59:25,591
where we are very specific

2930
01:59:25,591 --> 01:59:26,659
about where we want to do this

2931
01:59:26,659 --> 01:59:27,393
to start and see the

2932
01:59:27,393 --> 01:59:30,993
implications of that as we try

2933
01:59:31,263 --> 01:59:34,863
roll it out. Thank you. Vice

2934
01:59:35,201 --> 01:59:36,200
Mayor, thank you.

2935
01:59:36,200 --> 01:59:39,200
>> I think for me, I'm

2936
01:59:41,674 --> 01:59:42,408
definitely not in favor of no

2937
01:59:42,408 --> 01:59:44,408
guardrails blanket application

2938
01:59:48,648 --> 01:59:50,649
of sb 10. I. I lean towards no

2939
01:59:50,649 --> 01:59:52,652
further action for the simple

2940
01:59:52,652 --> 01:59:53,386
idea of staff. The staff lift

2941
01:59:53,386 --> 01:59:55,654
this would take and then staff

2942
01:59:55,654 --> 01:59:58,540
capacity amongst other things.

2943
01:59:59,425 --> 02:00:01,394
>> However, I could be

2944
02:00:01,394 --> 02:00:02,161
persuaded to. I think it was

2945
02:00:02,161 --> 02:00:02,862
Councilmember Fleming

2946
02:00:02,862 --> 02:00:04,300
mentioned bring it back at a

2947
02:00:04,300 --> 02:00:07,630
later date for a little bit

2948
02:00:09,768 --> 02:00:11,637
more what's a idea to give

2949
02:00:11,637 --> 02:00:12,705
staff more time to

2950
02:00:12,705 --> 02:00:13,673
Councilmember MacDonald point

2951
02:00:13,673 --> 02:00:14,406
to accomplish the things that

2952
02:00:14,406 --> 02:00:18,511
we already have in the in, you

2953
02:00:18,511 --> 02:00:19,679
know, in the hopper I agree

2954
02:00:19,679 --> 02:00:22,548
with the design standard. I

2955
02:00:22,548 --> 02:00:23,215
agree with targeted areas. I I

2956
02:00:23,215 --> 02:00:26,215
could agree with those down

2957
02:00:26,419 --> 02:00:27,860
the line. But I think my

2958
02:00:27,860 --> 02:00:29,486
biggest concern, right? You

2959
02:00:32,124 --> 02:00:32,825
know, so I lean more more

2960
02:00:32,825 --> 02:00:33,493
conservative to I don't know

2961
02:00:33,493 --> 02:00:34,427
if this is making any sense

2962
02:00:34,427 --> 02:00:37,362
like guys were doing like

2963
02:00:37,362 --> 02:00:39,599
mixtures of but a more

2964
02:00:39,599 --> 02:00:41,534
conservative, too. But down

2965
02:00:41,534 --> 02:00:43,102
the line, one staff has

2966
02:00:43,102 --> 02:00:45,502
capacity to implement it

2967
02:00:50,343 --> 02:00:51,444
presumably before the Sunset.

2968
02:00:51,444 --> 02:00:53,646
Thank you. And I think I'm I'm

2969
02:00:53,646 --> 02:00:55,615
the mix of my colleagues here.

2970
02:00:55,615 --> 02:00:56,582
Something that targeted in

2971
02:00:56,582 --> 02:00:57,750
implementation fear.

2972
02:00:57,750 --> 02:00:58,818
>> No one here wants to take

2973
02:00:58,818 --> 02:01:02,418
no action. We want to have

2974
02:01:02,455 --> 02:01:03,623
read every tool that we can,

2975
02:01:03,623 --> 02:01:05,558
but we want to make sure that

2976
02:01:05,558 --> 02:01:06,593
that this tool doesn't disrupt

2977
02:01:06,593 --> 02:01:07,594
some of the other other

2978
02:01:07,594 --> 02:01:08,261
policies that we already have

2979
02:01:08,261 --> 02:01:10,596
in place just made a public

2980
02:01:10,596 --> 02:01:13,596
projects that we have in

2981
02:01:13,666 --> 02:01:14,834
place. Then elephant room that

2982
02:01:14,834 --> 02:01:15,835
we danced around that number

2983
02:01:15,835 --> 02:01:17,504
number of can start tonight.

2984
02:01:17,504 --> 02:01:18,438
Was that the financing

2985
02:01:18,438 --> 02:01:20,205
environment right now? I mean,

2986
02:01:20,205 --> 02:01:21,808
there's a reason why with our

2987
02:01:21,808 --> 02:01:22,542
missing middle ordinance

2988
02:01:22,542 --> 02:01:23,243
changes, we haven't seen a lot

2989
02:01:23,243 --> 02:01:25,779
of development even with some

2990
02:01:25,779 --> 02:01:26,779
of the eu's, even with some of

2991
02:01:26,779 --> 02:01:28,981
our general development. It is

2992
02:01:28,981 --> 02:01:29,616
a tough financing environment

2993
02:01:29,616 --> 02:01:32,485
out there right now. And

2994
02:01:32,485 --> 02:01:33,420
that's likely continue. So we

2995
02:01:33,420 --> 02:01:35,221
have a little bit of space

2996
02:01:35,221 --> 02:01:35,922
where no matter what policy we

2997
02:01:35,922 --> 02:01:38,322
implement, we're probably not

2998
02:01:38,525 --> 02:01:39,693
going to see a lot of new

2999
02:01:39,693 --> 02:01:40,560
development in very near

3000
02:01:40,560 --> 02:01:43,263
future. And so taking the time

3001
02:01:43,263 --> 02:01:44,363
to do this right, the fact

3002
02:01:44,363 --> 02:01:46,165
that other cities across the

3003
02:01:46,165 --> 02:01:47,334
state have not implemented

3004
02:01:47,334 --> 02:01:48,670
this or thought about

3005
02:01:48,670 --> 02:01:50,971
implementing it and then shied

3006
02:01:50,971 --> 02:01:51,638
away from it. It does show

3007
02:01:51,638 --> 02:01:52,338
that there's an opportunity

3008
02:01:52,338 --> 02:01:54,841
for us here to take advantage

3009
02:01:54,841 --> 02:01:57,770
of this. But to do it right.

3010
02:01:57,770 --> 02:01:57,744
And in a way when it doesn't

3011
02:01:57,744 --> 02:02:00,744
disrupt the work flows that

3012
02:02:01,147 --> 02:02:01,848
already progress. So I think

3013
02:02:01,848 --> 02:02:03,160
that's in line with what I've

3014
02:02:03,160 --> 02:02:04,830
heard from rest of my

3015
02:02:04,830 --> 02:02:05,919
colleagues that, yes, we're

3016
02:02:05,919 --> 02:02:07,888
absolutely interested in going

3017
02:02:07,888 --> 02:02:10,857
forward. This. It sounds like

3018
02:02:10,857 --> 02:02:11,958
there might be a spot away

3019
02:02:11,958 --> 02:02:13,393
arrive a time frame. We can

3020
02:02:13,393 --> 02:02:14,940
plug this into in 2027 in a

3021
02:02:14,940 --> 02:02:16,290
way that doesn't disrupt

3022
02:02:16,290 --> 02:02:17,963
existing high priority

3023
02:02:17,963 --> 02:02:20,363
projects. I'm certainly in

3024
02:02:21,201 --> 02:02:24,201
favor of seeing that with

3025
02:02:24,905 --> 02:02:25,539
careful attention the the

3026
02:02:25,539 --> 02:02:27,539
planning ordinances, the

3027
02:02:29,776 --> 02:02:30,877
requirements to go into sb 10

3028
02:02:30,877 --> 02:02:31,545
to make sure that does a lot

3029
02:02:31,545 --> 02:02:32,145
of good things for the city

3030
02:02:32,145 --> 02:02:34,145
doesn't doesn't create

3031
02:02:36,683 --> 02:02:39,830
unexpected problems. And with

3032
02:02:39,553 --> 02:02:41,388
that with what you done. A lot

3033
02:02:41,388 --> 02:02:42,189
of work already owns entire

3034
02:02:42,189 --> 02:02:42,888
team on this. What are their

3035
02:02:42,888 --> 02:02:45,288
what their clarification can

3036
02:02:47,928 --> 02:02:49,195
we offer?

3037
02:02:49,195 --> 02:02:50,264
>> Thank you, mayor. That

3038
02:02:50,264 --> 02:02:51,632
feedback is incredibly

3039
02:02:51,632 --> 02:02:52,332
helpful. So really what I'm

3040
02:02:52,332 --> 02:02:55,350
hearing is the consensus of a

3041
02:02:55,350 --> 02:02:57,435
very targeted approach that

3042
02:02:59,500 --> 02:03:00,206
factors in affordability and

3043
02:03:00,206 --> 02:03:01,275
factors and the environmental

3044
02:03:01,275 --> 02:03:02,876
hazard areas. And looking at

3045
02:03:02,876 --> 02:03:05,450
that as potentially the

3046
02:03:05,450 --> 02:03:06,913
parameters, what would be

3047
02:03:06,913 --> 02:03:08,815
helpful, obviously, as this

3048
02:03:08,815 --> 02:03:09,983
moves forward, we will honor

3049
02:03:09,983 --> 02:03:10,650
existing priorities. There

3050
02:03:10,650 --> 02:03:11,251
will be other touch points

3051
02:03:11,251 --> 02:03:13,987
with the council to get

3052
02:03:13,987 --> 02:03:16,957
feedback on these pieces. But

3053
02:03:16,957 --> 02:03:18,358
what would be helpful is sb 10

3054
02:03:18,358 --> 02:03:20,927
can allow 10 units or less if

3055
02:03:20,927 --> 02:03:21,628
we want staff to move forward

3056
02:03:21,628 --> 02:03:22,963
with focusing on 10 units or

3057
02:03:22,963 --> 02:03:25,165
looking at last, that would be

3058
02:03:25,165 --> 02:03:26,300
helpful. And if there's any

3059
02:03:26,300 --> 02:03:28,402
other targeted approach where

3060
02:03:28,402 --> 02:03:29,636
we want to remove specific

3061
02:03:29,636 --> 02:03:30,337
areas, shrinking down the

3062
02:03:30,337 --> 02:03:33,337
boundary, that is the maps

3063
02:03:34,407 --> 02:03:35,420
that we showed earlier would

3064
02:03:35,420 --> 02:03:36,443
help immensely if there's

3065
02:03:36,443 --> 02:03:38,345
other any other concepts and

3066
02:03:38,345 --> 02:03:40,881
those can be simply focus on

3067
02:03:40,881 --> 02:03:41,749
transit corridors. They can be

3068
02:03:41,749 --> 02:03:43,517
areas where this density

3069
02:03:43,517 --> 02:03:45,953
really makes more sense to the

3070
02:03:45,953 --> 02:03:47,520
council and that will help us

3071
02:03:47,520 --> 02:03:48,655
better understand the level of

3072
02:03:48,655 --> 02:03:49,656
effort that goes into this.

3073
02:03:49,656 --> 02:03:50,723
I'm also hearing that

3074
02:03:50,723 --> 02:03:51,859
objective design standards are

3075
02:03:51,859 --> 02:03:52,725
needed so that will help.

3076
02:03:52,725 --> 02:03:55,725
Those will be sb 10 specific

3077
02:03:56,529 --> 02:03:57,563
objective design standards.

3078
02:03:57,563 --> 02:03:58,265
The department is moving

3079
02:03:58,265 --> 02:03:58,966
forward with that exercise

3080
02:03:58,966 --> 02:04:02,503
anyway. So that will be a tag

3081
02:04:02,503 --> 02:04:03,237
on to that. But any more

3082
02:04:03,237 --> 02:04:05,237
information about those

3083
02:04:05,405 --> 02:04:06,240
restrictions that help us form

3084
02:04:06,240 --> 02:04:08,475
the sub so we can bring it

3085
02:04:08,475 --> 02:04:09,176
back is a more robust package

3086
02:04:09,176 --> 02:04:09,777
where the council can provide

3087
02:04:09,777 --> 02:04:11,244
more feedback prior to

3088
02:04:11,244 --> 02:04:13,644
adoption would be helpful.

3089
02:04:17,952 --> 02:04:19,860
Thoughts from the group.

3090
02:04:19,860 --> 02:04:20,754
>> Obviously, I always have

3091
02:04:20,754 --> 02:04:21,989
concerns about fire impacted

3092
02:04:21,989 --> 02:04:23,900
areas and abilities to

3093
02:04:23,900 --> 02:04:25,490
evacuate. When there's further

3094
02:04:27,294 --> 02:04:27,995
density it's coming from a

3095
02:04:27,995 --> 02:04:30,395
community that has exactly 3

3096
02:04:31,765 --> 02:04:32,733
ways to get out for around

3097
02:04:32,733 --> 02:04:33,434
1700 homes, that something

3098
02:04:33,434 --> 02:04:36,137
that is always front of mind.

3099
02:04:36,137 --> 02:04:37,338
So I think taking that into a

3100
02:04:37,338 --> 02:04:40,207
cow is areas that MAY not be

3101
02:04:40,207 --> 02:04:42,430
the best. I think obviously we

3102
02:04:42,430 --> 02:04:44,440
do have our downtown

3103
02:04:44,440 --> 02:04:45,145
stationary plans that

3104
02:04:45,145 --> 02:04:48,145
stationary plans would be, you

3105
02:04:48,149 --> 02:04:48,849
know, ideal areas to focus on

3106
02:04:48,849 --> 02:04:49,550
preliminarily because that's

3107
02:04:49,550 --> 02:04:50,250
where we've already decided.

3108
02:04:50,250 --> 02:04:52,787
We want density in are doing

3109
02:04:52,787 --> 02:04:54,755
whatever we can so I think

3110
02:04:54,755 --> 02:04:57,658
those areas would be some of

3111
02:04:57,658 --> 02:05:01,528
the first to look at. I know

3112
02:05:01,528 --> 02:05:03,431
we're talking about fraud.

3113
02:05:03,431 --> 02:05:04,465
Geographic areas. But, you

3114
02:05:04,465 --> 02:05:08,350
know, that's kind of those are

3115
02:05:08,350 --> 02:05:08,768
kind of my thoughts. And you

3116
02:05:08,768 --> 02:05:09,670
know, that's that's targeted

3117
02:05:09,670 --> 02:05:10,404
areas or target areas to focus

3118
02:05:10,404 --> 02:05:14,400
on targeted areas to not focus

3119
02:05:21,820 --> 02:05:22,350
on. Yeah, I think. The that we

3120
02:05:22,350 --> 02:05:23,250
concept is important but also

3121
02:05:23,250 --> 02:05:25,190
areas that have been firing

3122
02:05:25,190 --> 02:05:27,121
back to before could be fired

3123
02:05:27,121 --> 02:05:28,389
impacted. I mean, just because

3124
02:05:28,389 --> 02:05:29,123
somebody is it in the just get

3125
02:05:29,123 --> 02:05:30,558
something across the street

3126
02:05:30,558 --> 02:05:31,259
from the we doesn't mean that

3127
02:05:31,259 --> 02:05:31,959
it's gonna make it any easier

3128
02:05:31,959 --> 02:05:33,594
for them evacuate or be safe

3129
02:05:33,594 --> 02:05:35,663
during a wildfire or some

3130
02:05:35,663 --> 02:05:38,663
other sort of incident. As

3131
02:05:41,135 --> 02:05:41,803
Rodgers.

3132
02:05:41,803 --> 02:05:42,570
>> Implementation not being

3133
02:05:42,570 --> 02:05:45,570
able to go back. Quick

3134
02:05:48,750 --> 02:05:51,750
question. If we targeted like

3135
02:05:51,279 --> 02:05:51,946
downtown. Are we able to fix?

3136
02:05:51,946 --> 02:05:54,346
>> Bandit moving forward. I

3137
02:05:54,448 --> 02:05:56,117
know we can take it back once

3138
02:05:56,117 --> 02:05:59,386
we implement it. But can we?

3139
02:05:59,386 --> 02:06:01,155
And it's so can we say? This

3140
02:06:01,155 --> 02:06:01,956
is where we want to focus now.

3141
02:06:01,956 --> 02:06:05,556
Okay. This is going great. Why

3142
02:06:05,760 --> 02:06:06,427
don't we try to? Look at this

3143
02:06:06,427 --> 02:06:07,795
area are look at this area.

3144
02:06:07,795 --> 02:06:11,395
Are we stuck with what we

3145
02:06:13,967 --> 02:06:16,170
initially? Thank you for the

3146
02:06:16,170 --> 02:06:18,170
question. The rezoning.

3147
02:06:20,207 --> 02:06:21,442
Without sequel review has to

3148
02:06:21,442 --> 02:06:24,442
be adopted prior to that

3149
02:06:26,214 --> 02:06:26,981
JANUARY 2029 sunset date. So

3150
02:06:26,981 --> 02:06:30,581
option up until that point to

3151
02:06:31,186 --> 02:06:32,419
expand. But then pass that we

3152
02:06:32,419 --> 02:06:33,387
would have to go through that.

3153
02:06:33,387 --> 02:06:35,787
The typical sequel review

3154
02:06:37,492 --> 02:06:39,892
process to increase capacity.

3155
02:06:42,397 --> 02:06:45,233
MR. Donald. So I'm in

3156
02:06:45,233 --> 02:06:46,367
agreement council member

3157
02:06:46,367 --> 02:06:48,269
Christie that.

3158
02:06:48,269 --> 02:06:49,300
>> Areas that are near

3159
02:06:49,300 --> 02:06:49,704
transit, build housing that in

3160
02:06:49,704 --> 02:06:52,704
the downtown area. Those all

3161
02:06:53,441 --> 02:06:55,343
make sense to me. I think

3162
02:06:55,343 --> 02:06:56,644
there's also probably a way

3163
02:06:56,644 --> 02:06:58,113
you can look at lot size and

3164
02:06:58,113 --> 02:07:01,282
what would be allowable on the

3165
02:07:01,282 --> 02:07:04,152
size of your lot because sb 10

3166
02:07:04,152 --> 02:07:05,587
doesn't specify lot size and

3167
02:07:05,587 --> 02:07:07,756
that could potentially help us

3168
02:07:07,756 --> 02:07:10,250
It's an appropriate amount of

3169
02:07:10,250 --> 02:07:11,593
housing based on lot size. And

3170
02:07:11,593 --> 02:07:12,994
I would probably just look to

3171
02:07:12,994 --> 02:07:14,262
your expertise of what would

3172
02:07:14,262 --> 02:07:17,262
be appropriate based on some

3173
02:07:19,100 --> 02:07:20,235
of areas and in our downtown

3174
02:07:20,235 --> 02:07:21,136
are around in areas that make

3175
02:07:21,136 --> 02:07:24,136
sense to do something like

3176
02:07:25,407 --> 02:07:28,760
this I'm not as afraid of if

3177
02:07:28,760 --> 02:07:28,709
it's actually working in

3178
02:07:28,709 --> 02:07:29,444
jurisdictions start to do

3179
02:07:29,444 --> 02:07:31,313
this. I'm not as afraid of the

3180
02:07:31,313 --> 02:07:33,481
sunset debt deadline because I

3181
02:07:33,481 --> 02:07:35,216
feel like the state would then

3182
02:07:35,216 --> 02:07:37,318
say will keep doing this if

3183
02:07:37,318 --> 02:07:38,954
it's working. So I'm not as

3184
02:07:38,954 --> 02:07:41,220
worried about that cutoff line

3185
02:07:41,220 --> 02:07:44,622
of us having to meet that 2029

3186
02:07:45,861 --> 02:07:46,962
and more concerned about fire

3187
02:07:46,962 --> 02:07:48,230
zones, flood zones and

3188
02:07:48,230 --> 02:07:49,865
evacuation routes at that

3189
02:07:49,865 --> 02:07:51,700
should all be part of your

3190
02:07:51,700 --> 02:07:54,700
design standards, sort of the

3191
02:07:54,769 --> 02:07:56,804
implementation and I think

3192
02:07:56,804 --> 02:07:58,606
that pretty much covers it for

3193
02:07:58,606 --> 02:08:01,609
me. As far as the willingness

3194
02:08:01,609 --> 02:08:02,310
to move forward. Very targeted

3195
02:08:02,310 --> 02:08:02,911
for me would be important. I

3196
02:08:02,911 --> 02:08:05,911
think it's just for the

3197
02:08:07,716 --> 02:08:08,417
safety. MRS.

3198
02:08:08,417 --> 02:08:10,552
>> Game one when it comes to

3199
02:08:10,552 --> 02:08:12,254
downtown Santa Rosa and the

3200
02:08:12,254 --> 02:08:13,688
policy that we currently have

3201
02:08:13,688 --> 02:08:15,590
place. How close are we to

3202
02:08:15,590 --> 02:08:19,190
reaching the level of this sb

3203
02:08:21,697 --> 02:08:23,980
10?

3204
02:08:23,980 --> 02:08:25,330
>> So in the downtown,

3205
02:08:25,330 --> 02:08:27,836
depending on the lots and

3206
02:08:27,836 --> 02:08:28,904
Jessica to chime in. If I MISS

3207
02:08:28,904 --> 02:08:30,939
Categorize this is that in

3208
02:08:30,939 --> 02:08:31,673
most scenarios the developers

3209
02:08:31,673 --> 02:08:34,673
can achieve densities that are

3210
02:08:34,776 --> 02:08:36,477
greater than the 10 units. So

3211
02:08:36,477 --> 02:08:37,846
they the the ability the

3212
02:08:37,846 --> 02:08:39,681
usefulness of sb 10 in that

3213
02:08:39,681 --> 02:08:40,749
area because other options

3214
02:08:40,749 --> 02:08:43,749
exist that allow developers to

3215
02:08:44,353 --> 02:08:44,986
do more than what sb 10 allows

3216
02:08:44,986 --> 02:08:45,686
wouldn't necessarily. We

3217
02:08:45,686 --> 02:08:46,421
wouldn't necessarily see that

3218
02:08:46,421 --> 02:08:50,210
is the most beneficial tool in

3219
02:08:50,459 --> 02:08:51,460
the tool box. As far as the

3220
02:08:51,460 --> 02:08:52,761
overall densities that are

3221
02:08:52,761 --> 02:08:53,462
allowed under the downtown

3222
02:08:53,462 --> 02:08:55,330
station area plan. So really,

3223
02:08:55,330 --> 02:08:57,532
our density capture what we

3224
02:08:57,532 --> 02:08:59,435
planned for. I don't have the

3225
02:08:59,435 --> 02:09:00,135
total numbers on hand, but we

3226
02:09:00,135 --> 02:09:00,870
have a significant number of

3227
02:09:00,870 --> 02:09:03,705
units planned for that haven't

3228
02:09:03,705 --> 02:09:04,440
generated downtown yet. And

3229
02:09:04,440 --> 02:09:06,441
that really that exercise of

3230
02:09:06,441 --> 02:09:08,477
understanding how we can build

3231
02:09:08,477 --> 02:09:09,611
that capacity. So sb 10 can

3232
02:09:09,611 --> 02:09:11,213
obviously grow towards that

3233
02:09:11,213 --> 02:09:12,281
and it could be potentially a

3234
02:09:12,281 --> 02:09:14,249
tool that individuals use, you

3235
02:09:14,249 --> 02:09:16,151
know, especially if it has a

3236
02:09:16,151 --> 02:09:17,953
streamlined process. But

3237
02:09:17,953 --> 02:09:18,587
really where we see it being

3238
02:09:18,587 --> 02:09:19,254
beneficial as where there

3239
02:09:19,254 --> 02:09:19,922
isn't one tool box that can

3240
02:09:19,922 --> 02:09:21,991
already get them to the 10

3241
02:09:21,991 --> 02:09:24,693
units. So so with that being

3242
02:09:24,693 --> 02:09:25,494
said,

3243
02:09:25,494 --> 02:09:26,127
>> I would definitely see how

3244
02:09:26,127 --> 02:09:27,950
it could be beneficial to

3245
02:09:27,950 --> 02:09:29,495
downtown for those cite

3246
02:09:32,101 --> 02:09:33,469
specific. Places where were

3247
02:09:33,469 --> 02:09:35,771
issues are being had to reach

3248
02:09:35,771 --> 02:09:38,771
at least the 10 number. But

3249
02:09:38,774 --> 02:09:40,508
looking at that urban areas, I

3250
02:09:40,508 --> 02:09:42,908
could see how. Development

3251
02:09:49,217 --> 02:09:49,819
could be. Almost to spectrum

3252
02:09:49,819 --> 02:09:51,860
because one thing close

3253
02:09:51,860 --> 02:09:53,486
attentions, long term, the

3254
02:09:54,457 --> 02:09:56,392
city of Santa Rosa's to infill

3255
02:09:56,392 --> 02:09:59,392
and and seeing that that.

3256
02:09:59,495 --> 02:10:01,895
>> That amount housing weather

3257
02:10:02,598 --> 02:10:03,165
isn't that amount of

3258
02:10:03,165 --> 02:10:03,833
infrastructure could

3259
02:10:03,833 --> 02:10:06,302
definitely lead to loss of

3260
02:10:06,302 --> 02:10:08,437
quality of life for Rosen's.

3261
02:10:08,437 --> 02:10:12,308
So for me being that this is a

3262
02:10:12,308 --> 02:10:12,942
tool. And it comes

3263
02:10:12,942 --> 02:10:14,942
responsibility. Would

3264
02:10:15,311 --> 02:10:17,711
definitely suppose on on

3265
02:10:18,714 --> 02:10:19,348
transit areas. And really more

3266
02:10:19,348 --> 02:10:21,748
towards the center. Santa

3267
02:10:22,552 --> 02:10:24,200
Rosa. While protecting our

3268
02:10:24,200 --> 02:10:25,822
outskirts and urban areas is

3269
02:10:25,822 --> 02:10:29,992
how I see the that will be

3270
02:10:29,992 --> 02:10:33,592
used in a and respectful way.

3271
02:10:34,196 --> 02:10:35,640
Even further more, the Spurs

3272
02:10:35,640 --> 02:10:37,166
spent of the permits or

3273
02:10:37,166 --> 02:10:39,100
allowances for this to be use

3274
02:10:39,100 --> 02:10:41,604
throughout the city of Santa

3275
02:10:41,604 --> 02:10:42,271
Rosa. Historically southwest

3276
02:10:42,271 --> 02:10:44,841
Rosa. Not not let some like

3277
02:10:44,841 --> 02:10:46,575
the town crier, but a lot of

3278
02:10:46,575 --> 02:10:47,276
the social issues have been

3279
02:10:47,276 --> 02:10:48,811
pushed towards the west side

3280
02:10:48,811 --> 02:10:51,130
of Santa Rosa and I want and

3281
02:10:51,130 --> 02:10:52,810
how we can disperse that. And

3282
02:10:52,810 --> 02:10:55,518
to the entire city of Santa

3283
02:10:55,518 --> 02:10:57,386
Rosa and again. Having already

3284
02:10:57,386 --> 02:11:00,386
participate in the growth, the

3285
02:11:06,195 --> 02:11:06,928
future growth of senators.

3286
02:11:06,928 --> 02:11:09,198
Thank you. Other thoughts from

3287
02:11:09,198 --> 02:11:11,901
council now on. One least one

3288
02:11:11,901 --> 02:11:13,350
clarifying question for me

3289
02:11:13,350 --> 02:11:14,103
with all the work that that

3290
02:11:14,103 --> 02:11:16,380
your team did on the missing

3291
02:11:16,380 --> 02:11:16,839
middle housing or we had to

3292
02:11:16,839 --> 02:11:18,508
get where you had to go

3293
02:11:18,508 --> 02:11:19,207
through and identify areas of

3294
02:11:19,207 --> 02:11:21,607
the city, current residential

3295
02:11:21,944 --> 02:11:22,745
areas that might.

3296
02:11:22,745 --> 02:11:24,947
>> Benefit from or at least

3297
02:11:24,947 --> 02:11:26,448
allow significant additional

3298
02:11:26,448 --> 02:11:27,150
density has that does that

3299
02:11:27,150 --> 02:11:30,520
give you a sense of where the

3300
02:11:30,520 --> 02:11:31,120
areas of opportunity might

3301
02:11:31,120 --> 02:11:31,955
We've named some of the

3302
02:11:31,955 --> 02:11:32,622
obvious ones here in terms of

3303
02:11:32,622 --> 02:11:34,622
transit corridors, downtown

3304
02:11:35,725 --> 02:11:36,392
station, cetera. But is there

3305
02:11:36,392 --> 02:11:38,461
a sense from the work that

3306
02:11:38,461 --> 02:11:40,529
we've done with our housing

3307
02:11:40,529 --> 02:11:42,365
policies here in the recent

3308
02:11:42,365 --> 02:11:43,320
past. Are there areas

3309
02:11:43,320 --> 02:11:45,432
opportunity that might make

3310
02:11:49,839 --> 02:11:51,839
sense for sb 10?

3311
02:11:51,841 --> 02:11:54,100
>> Yes, I think there are good

3312
02:11:54,100 --> 02:11:56,346
models when looking at missing

3313
02:11:56,346 --> 02:11:57,147
or we can fall back on basic

3314
02:11:57,147 --> 02:11:57,780
planning procedures and

3315
02:11:57,780 --> 02:11:59,780
protocols for identifying

3316
02:12:00,216 --> 02:12:01,317
where density goes in really

3317
02:12:01,317 --> 02:12:03,753
missing. Middle looks at a

3318
02:12:03,753 --> 02:12:04,420
very strategic approach of how

3319
02:12:04,420 --> 02:12:06,890
from an equity standpoint,

3320
02:12:06,890 --> 02:12:06,823
diverse and diversify through

3321
02:12:06,823 --> 02:12:09,223
multiple neighborhoods. So how

3322
02:12:09,691 --> 02:12:10,960
do you incorporate that in?

3323
02:12:10,960 --> 02:12:11,828
And as many of the points made

3324
02:12:11,828 --> 02:12:13,896
many of the missing middle

3325
02:12:13,896 --> 02:12:14,764
housing that we have now is

3326
02:12:14,764 --> 02:12:15,965
just organically developed

3327
02:12:15,965 --> 02:12:18,902
over many years with really

3328
02:12:18,902 --> 02:12:19,936
not much planning going in and

3329
02:12:19,936 --> 02:12:20,637
trying to force that into an

3330
02:12:20,637 --> 02:12:21,304
area where it hasn't grown

3331
02:12:21,304 --> 02:12:22,906
that way over the last few

3332
02:12:22,906 --> 02:12:25,410
years can be a little

3333
02:12:25,410 --> 02:12:26,175
problematic but I do think

3334
02:12:26,175 --> 02:12:27,900
that there are some learning

3335
02:12:27,900 --> 02:12:28,244
lessons there and we can use

3336
02:12:28,244 --> 02:12:30,547
that as feedback on guidance

3337
02:12:30,547 --> 02:12:33,216
on how we would form sb 10

3338
02:12:33,216 --> 02:12:34,450
proposal. I'm certainly open

3339
02:12:34,450 --> 02:12:35,485
to staff feedback on in

3340
02:12:35,485 --> 02:12:36,286
addition to the areas that

3341
02:12:36,286 --> 02:12:37,587
we've named other areas in the

3342
02:12:37,587 --> 02:12:39,122
city that would be that would

3343
02:12:39,122 --> 02:12:39,789
make good candidates based on

3344
02:12:39,789 --> 02:12:41,789
the significant expiration.

3345
02:12:41,858 --> 02:12:42,459
That city's already down.

3346
02:12:42,459 --> 02:12:44,459
>> Other thoughts from

3347
02:12:48,231 --> 02:12:50,000
council. All right. Well, of

3348
02:12:50,000 --> 02:12:51,101
any in any additional

3349
02:12:51,101 --> 02:12:51,801
clarification what is there,

3350
02:12:51,801 --> 02:12:52,435
any additional clarification

3351
02:12:52,435 --> 02:12:55,435
will be helpful from your

3352
02:12:55,438 --> 02:12:56,173
sign?

3353
02:12:56,173 --> 02:12:58,507
>> I know, mayor, I think that

3354
02:12:58,507 --> 02:12:59,476
is hopeful. We will explore 10

3355
02:12:59,476 --> 02:13:02,245
units as the number we will

3356
02:13:02,245 --> 02:13:02,879
explore cap options. It is

3357
02:13:02,879 --> 02:13:04,915
very helpful to get some

3358
02:13:04,915 --> 02:13:08,515
feedback on the area. We will

3359
02:13:08,719 --> 02:13:09,753
use that piece that together

3360
02:13:09,753 --> 02:13:11,588
under the existing priorities.

3361
02:13:11,588 --> 02:13:12,322
As I mentioned, we do have

3362
02:13:12,322 --> 02:13:14,910
potentially a gap come summer.

3363
02:13:14,910 --> 02:13:16,360
So we'll start putting this on

3364
02:13:16,360 --> 02:13:18,195
program. And as I mentioned,

3365
02:13:18,195 --> 02:13:19,463
this likely is bringing it

3366
02:13:19,463 --> 02:13:20,364
back to council for further

3367
02:13:20,364 --> 02:13:21,640
guidance as staff can farm up

3368
02:13:21,640 --> 02:13:22,265
in more detail recommendation

3369
02:13:22,265 --> 02:13:24,301
of how this would roll out.

3370
02:13:24,301 --> 02:13:26,103
Excellent. Thank you. MRS.

3371
02:13:26,103 --> 02:13:26,803
Yes, thank you for allowing me

3372
02:13:26,803 --> 02:13:29,803
question. Going back to the

3373
02:13:29,972 --> 02:13:32,375
issue of affordability. And I

3374
02:13:32,375 --> 02:13:32,776
understand that there be

3375
02:13:32,776 --> 02:13:34,645
incentives.

3376
02:13:34,645 --> 02:13:36,812
>> To assure that developers

3377
02:13:36,812 --> 02:13:37,481
produce affordable housing.

3378
02:13:37,481 --> 02:13:40,481
But is there anything less

3379
02:13:44,354 --> 02:13:48,554
legally by I will defer to our

3380
02:13:48,859 --> 02:13:49,893
city attorney on that.

3381
02:13:49,893 --> 02:13:52,229
>> Thank I mean, the law

3382
02:13:52,229 --> 02:13:53,296
itself doesn't mandate any low

3383
02:13:53,296 --> 02:13:56,296
income restrictions, but we as

3384
02:13:56,833 --> 02:13:58,869
a local jurisdiction, could

3385
02:13:58,869 --> 02:13:59,937
choose to attach our own

3386
02:13:59,937 --> 02:14:00,604
inclusionary zoning or other

3387
02:14:00,604 --> 02:14:02,604
affordability requirements.

3388
02:14:04,241 --> 02:14:07,841
When we come back with this.

3389
02:14:07,911 --> 02:14:08,579
Housing So yes, we can.

3390
02:14:08,579 --> 02:14:10,647
>> I will know to see being

3391
02:14:10,647 --> 02:14:11,848
exercised in the development

3392
02:14:11,848 --> 02:14:15,448
of any housing really in the

3393
02:14:16,786 --> 02:14:18,220
city of senators.

3394
02:14:18,220 --> 02:14:19,723
>> Thank Final final question

3395
02:14:19,723 --> 02:14:23,323
from the days before we let

3396
02:14:23,761 --> 02:14:24,428
you go. If we move as we move

3397
02:14:24,428 --> 02:14:25,596
forward with looking adopt

3398
02:14:25,596 --> 02:14:26,663
with looking at this

3399
02:14:26,663 --> 02:14:28,599
additional ordinance, where

3400
02:14:28,599 --> 02:14:31,835
does this put us in terms of

3401
02:14:31,835 --> 02:14:32,469
California cities in terms of

3402
02:14:32,469 --> 02:14:34,469
aggressiveness of housing

3403
02:14:38,808 --> 02:14:40,110
policies?

3404
02:14:40,110 --> 02:14:40,878
>> That's a great question. We

3405
02:14:40,878 --> 02:14:43,878
are currently in the process

3406
02:14:43,947 --> 02:14:45,683
of working on our per housing

3407
02:14:45,683 --> 02:14:46,383
application to the state. As

3408
02:14:46,383 --> 02:14:49,983
we proceed with that, I think

3409
02:14:50,588 --> 02:14:51,888
we we are still I'm one of the

3410
02:14:51,888 --> 02:14:52,523
top jurisdictions in moving

3411
02:14:52,523 --> 02:14:54,523
forward with housing

3412
02:14:55,426 --> 02:14:58,261
initiatives, but we can bring

3413
02:14:58,261 --> 02:14:58,963
a more informed information on

3414
02:14:58,963 --> 02:14:59,663
that. Once we've got housing

3415
02:14:59,663 --> 02:15:01,663
designation, application form

3416
02:15:02,900 --> 02:15:03,601
lies with the state.

3417
02:15:03,601 --> 02:15:05,102
>> very diplomatic answer. Is

3418
02:15:05,102 --> 02:15:08,720
it? Is it fair to say that we

3419
02:15:08,720 --> 02:15:09,907
are among the very top tier of

3420
02:15:09,907 --> 02:15:10,908
how of jurisdictions in the

3421
02:15:10,908 --> 02:15:11,942
state with respect to how many

3422
02:15:11,942 --> 02:15:15,179
how many policies we put into

3423
02:15:15,179 --> 02:15:16,347
place to encourage housing.

3424
02:15:16,347 --> 02:15:17,248
>> Based on my conversations

3425
02:15:17,248 --> 02:15:19,283
with other jurisdictions, that

3426
02:15:19,283 --> 02:15:19,984
is a fair statement. All

3427
02:15:19,984 --> 02:15:20,684
right. We'll come back with a

3428
02:15:20,684 --> 02:15:21,386
hard number. Again, for that

3429
02:15:21,386 --> 02:15:22,119
for the members of the public

3430
02:15:22,119 --> 02:15:24,221
who are here listening are for

3431
02:15:24,221 --> 02:15:25,556
words for those online.

3432
02:15:25,556 --> 02:15:26,489
>> We do underline how much

3433
02:15:26,489 --> 02:15:27,625
how much the city of Santa

3434
02:15:27,625 --> 02:15:30,527
Rosa has done has missed close

3435
02:15:30,527 --> 02:15:32,927
indicated since 2019 and how

3436
02:15:33,531 --> 02:15:35,599
we are. We are leading the way

3437
02:15:35,599 --> 02:15:38,402
to my was MR. Stanley's point

3438
02:15:38,402 --> 02:15:39,360
it in terms of looking at this

3439
02:15:39,360 --> 02:15:39,737
ordinance we are bringing

3440
02:15:39,737 --> 02:15:41,971
we're putting every tool can

3441
02:15:41,971 --> 02:15:46,171
door to a box. Thank you all.

3442
02:15:46,243 --> 02:15:49,213
>> All right. With we will

3443
02:15:49,213 --> 02:15:49,947
move on to our very are are

3444
02:15:49,947 --> 02:15:52,347
very patient community members

3445
02:15:53,184 --> 02:15:53,784
who are here to celebrate

3446
02:15:53,784 --> 02:15:54,418
their our family Court

3447
02:15:54,418 --> 02:15:56,818
awareness Month. So we're

3448
02:15:57,388 --> 02:15:58,890
gonna jump ahead to item 7.1.

3449
02:15:58,890 --> 02:15:59,890
>> this is a proclamation in

3450
02:15:59,890 --> 02:16:01,192
honor of Family Court

3451
02:16:01,192 --> 02:16:01,892
awareness Month and I'm going

3452
02:16:01,892 --> 02:16:06,920
to turn it over to Ms Rogers

3453
02:16:11,435 --> 02:16:12,870
to read the proclamation.

3454
02:16:12,870 --> 02:16:14,538
>> Whereas the Mission of

3455
02:16:14,538 --> 02:16:15,506
Family Court Awareness Month

3456
02:16:15,506 --> 02:16:17,575
is to highlight the need to

3457
02:16:17,575 --> 02:16:19,975
prioritize child safety in

3458
02:16:20,311 --> 02:16:22,580
family court. And whereas an

3459
02:16:22,580 --> 02:16:24,215
estimated 58 1000 children in

3460
02:16:24,215 --> 02:16:26,117
the United States ordered into

3461
02:16:26,117 --> 02:16:27,318
unsupervised contact with

3462
02:16:27,318 --> 02:16:29,718
abusive parents each year

3463
02:16:30,387 --> 02:16:31,422
resulting in nearly 1000

3464
02:16:31,422 --> 02:16:33,822
children murder during these

3465
02:16:35,292 --> 02:16:35,994
visitations since 2008. And

3466
02:16:35,994 --> 02:16:38,994
whereas the mission of Family

3467
02:16:41,599 --> 02:16:42,333
Court awareness Month and in

3468
02:16:42,333 --> 02:16:43,101
is to promote judicial

3469
02:16:43,101 --> 02:16:45,501
education that would include

3470
02:16:46,337 --> 02:16:48,737
training in domestic violence,

3471
02:16:50,708 --> 02:16:52,877
child abuse, childhood trauma,

3472
02:16:52,877 --> 02:16:53,810
coercive control imposed

3473
02:16:53,810 --> 02:16:54,445
separation abuse for all

3474
02:16:54,445 --> 02:16:56,445
professionals involved in

3475
02:16:57,582 --> 02:16:59,751
family court cases. And

3476
02:16:59,751 --> 02:17:02,151
whereas Family Court Awareness

3477
02:17:02,587 --> 02:17:03,621
Month aims to inspire

3478
02:17:03,621 --> 02:17:04,455
collaboration among

3479
02:17:04,455 --> 02:17:05,190
legislators, advocates

3480
02:17:05,190 --> 02:17:07,590
professionals in the community

3481
02:17:07,959 --> 02:17:09,994
to improve family court

3482
02:17:09,994 --> 02:17:12,230
practice ensuring they are

3483
02:17:12,230 --> 02:17:12,964
guided by evidence based

3484
02:17:12,964 --> 02:17:13,598
research prioritize the safety

3485
02:17:13,598 --> 02:17:16,334
and best interest of our

3486
02:17:16,334 --> 02:17:18,734
children. Now, therefore, MAY

3487
02:17:20,538 --> 02:17:22,273
be resolved. That marks tapped

3488
02:17:22,273 --> 02:17:25,343
the mayor of the city of Santa

3489
02:17:25,343 --> 02:17:26,478
Rosa on behalf of the entire

3490
02:17:26,478 --> 02:17:27,178
center the City Council in

3491
02:17:27,178 --> 02:17:29,578
recognition of our community

3492
02:17:30,515 --> 02:17:31,149
do hereby proclaim NOVEMBER

3493
02:17:31,149 --> 02:17:33,549
2026. To be Family Court

3494
02:17:40,290 --> 02:17:41,920
awareness month.

3495
02:17:41,920 --> 02:17:41,760
>> Thank you very much. And do

3496
02:17:41,760 --> 02:17:44,760
we have Emily stuff? Learn

3497
02:17:48,990 --> 02:17:49,901
County Rodriguez here. We by

3498
02:17:49,901 --> 02:17:50,602
no means a few words yet

3499
02:17:50,602 --> 02:17:51,303
coming down from grab one of

3500
02:17:51,303 --> 02:17:52,300
those microphones that works,

3501
02:17:52,300 --> 02:17:55,172
that works. Come on. Come on

3502
02:17:55,172 --> 02:17:58,772
down. Thank you for coming out

3503
02:18:00,845 --> 02:18:03,845
tonight. Thank thank you. Dean

3504
02:18:12,357 --> 02:18:13,391
of returning on the mic.

3505
02:18:13,391 --> 02:18:14,392
>> Good evening and thank you

3506
02:18:14,392 --> 02:18:15,600
to the center of City Council

3507
02:18:15,600 --> 02:18:17,460
for recognizing NOVEMBER is

3508
02:18:17,729 --> 02:18:19,130
Family Court awareness month.

3509
02:18:19,130 --> 02:18:19,898
My name is Emily Stepler and

3510
02:18:19,898 --> 02:18:20,531
I'm a domestic violence

3511
02:18:20,531 --> 02:18:22,931
survivor and advocate for

3512
02:18:23,635 --> 02:18:24,636
family court reform. Family

3513
02:18:24,636 --> 02:18:26,104
Court Awareness Month was

3514
02:18:26,104 --> 02:18:28,240
created in 2020 by teen U.S.

3515
02:18:28,240 --> 02:18:30,800
Women, founder of one mom's

3516
02:18:30,800 --> 02:18:30,875
battle. The goal of Family

3517
02:18:30,875 --> 02:18:32,144
Court Awareness Month is to

3518
02:18:32,144 --> 02:18:32,744
shine a spotlight on systemic

3519
02:18:32,744 --> 02:18:35,144
issues that are placing

3520
02:18:36,130 --> 02:18:36,681
children in harm's way

3521
02:18:36,681 --> 02:18:37,349
following domestic violence

3522
02:18:37,349 --> 02:18:38,817
awareness Month in OCTOBER,

3523
02:18:38,817 --> 02:18:40,919
many survivors and up in

3524
02:18:40,919 --> 02:18:42,200
family court. It's also where

3525
02:18:42,200 --> 02:18:43,955
too many children are placed

3526
02:18:43,955 --> 02:18:44,890
back into unsafe situations

3527
02:18:44,890 --> 02:18:47,580
due to a lack of understanding

3528
02:18:47,580 --> 02:18:48,126
about abuse, trauma and

3529
02:18:48,126 --> 02:18:48,860
coercive control. Reality that

3530
02:18:48,860 --> 02:18:52,460
far too many families face and

3531
02:18:52,697 --> 02:18:53,498
silence. For the past 7 years

3532
02:18:53,498 --> 02:18:54,433
I've been navigating what is

3533
02:18:54,433 --> 02:18:55,200
considered a high conflict

3534
02:18:55,200 --> 02:18:58,136
family court case while trying

3535
02:18:58,136 --> 02:18:59,204
to protect my children. Family

3536
02:18:59,204 --> 02:19:01,204
court professionals often

3537
02:19:02,207 --> 02:19:03,442
misinterpret course of course,

3538
02:19:03,442 --> 02:19:05,900
of control you to a conflict

3539
02:19:05,900 --> 02:19:06,211
between parents overlook

3540
02:19:06,211 --> 02:19:07,379
patterns of abuse and

3541
02:19:07,379 --> 02:19:08,447
mistakenly characterize

3542
02:19:08,447 --> 02:19:10,349
protective parents response as

3543
02:19:10,349 --> 02:19:12,484
hostility or an unwillingness

3544
02:19:12,484 --> 02:19:13,185
to co-parent over the years

3545
02:19:13,185 --> 02:19:13,952
I've been court ordered to

3546
02:19:13,952 --> 02:19:15,952
attend co-parenting therapy

3547
02:19:16,154 --> 02:19:17,889
with my abuser on multiple

3548
02:19:17,889 --> 02:19:18,991
occasions. Our first

3549
02:19:18,991 --> 02:19:20,558
experience was in 2020 at the

3550
02:19:20,558 --> 02:19:22,460
time. My abuser had only

3551
02:19:22,460 --> 02:19:23,595
recently been granted

3552
02:19:23,595 --> 02:19:25,497
unsupervised visitation and

3553
02:19:25,497 --> 02:19:26,265
was also under court orders to

3554
02:19:26,265 --> 02:19:26,865
attend individual therapy and

3555
02:19:26,865 --> 02:19:29,265
submit to regular hair

3556
02:19:30,269 --> 02:19:30,903
follicle drug testing. Despite

3557
02:19:30,903 --> 02:19:31,769
the circumstances are

3558
02:19:31,769 --> 02:19:32,404
co-parenting therapist began

3559
02:19:32,404 --> 02:19:34,500
our very first session by

3560
02:19:34,500 --> 02:19:34,740
instructing us to develop

3561
02:19:34,740 --> 02:19:37,376
parenting plan based on a

3562
02:19:37,376 --> 02:19:38,760
fifty-fifty custody

3563
02:19:38,760 --> 02:19:40,612
arrangement and have it ready

3564
02:19:40,612 --> 02:19:41,713
our next appointment. I

3565
02:19:41,713 --> 02:19:42,581
remember feeling completely

3566
02:19:42,581 --> 02:19:44,717
overwhelmed. I had spent so

3567
02:19:44,717 --> 02:19:45,384
much time raising concerns

3568
02:19:45,384 --> 02:19:45,984
about my children's safety,

3569
02:19:45,984 --> 02:19:47,286
their father's abusive

3570
02:19:47,286 --> 02:19:49,154
behavior and his mental

3571
02:19:49,154 --> 02:19:51,289
health. Yeah, I was now being

3572
02:19:51,289 --> 02:19:52,900
asked asked to approach our

3573
02:19:52,900 --> 02:19:52,725
situation is that we were to

3574
02:19:52,725 --> 02:19:53,926
equally capable. Parents

3575
02:19:53,926 --> 02:19:55,127
simply struggling to get

3576
02:19:55,127 --> 02:19:57,290
along. I was deeply

3577
02:19:57,290 --> 02:19:58,263
uncomfortable with the

3578
02:19:58,263 --> 02:19:59,231
assigned assignment, but I was

3579
02:19:59,231 --> 02:19:59,865
also afraid to question it

3580
02:19:59,865 --> 02:20:00,566
would make me appear and

3581
02:20:00,566 --> 02:20:02,734
cooperate in the eyes of the

3582
02:20:02,734 --> 02:20:03,335
court. A few years later, we

3583
02:20:03,335 --> 02:20:05,735
were ordered to attend

3584
02:20:06,639 --> 02:20:07,272
co-parenting therapy again, I

3585
02:20:07,272 --> 02:20:07,840
went into the experience,

3586
02:20:07,840 --> 02:20:08,540
hopeful that this new

3587
02:20:08,540 --> 02:20:10,209
therapist would recognize the

3588
02:20:10,209 --> 02:20:11,510
dynamics of our situation and

3589
02:20:11,510 --> 02:20:12,411
understand that what we were

3590
02:20:12,411 --> 02:20:13,112
dealing with was not simply

3591
02:20:13,112 --> 02:20:15,112
communication problem between

3592
02:20:15,147 --> 02:20:17,147
2 parents. Unfortunately, that

3593
02:20:19,318 --> 02:20:20,252
wasn't the case. During our

3594
02:20:20,252 --> 02:20:21,200
sessions maybe use are engaged

3595
02:20:21,200 --> 02:20:21,653
and verbally abusive behavior

3596
02:20:21,653 --> 02:20:23,155
at the therapist did not

3597
02:20:23,155 --> 02:20:25,240
report these incidents to the

3598
02:20:25,240 --> 02:20:25,991
court. Our time with this

3599
02:20:25,991 --> 02:20:27,326
therapist was ultimately

3600
02:20:27,326 --> 02:20:28,930
short-lived as maybe users

3601
02:20:28,930 --> 02:20:29,940
stopped paying his portion of

3602
02:20:29,940 --> 02:20:29,795
the sessions and began sending

3603
02:20:29,795 --> 02:20:31,795
threatening messages directly

3604
02:20:32,965 --> 02:20:33,566
to the therapist at that point

3605
02:20:33,566 --> 02:20:35,670
that their cause became

3606
02:20:35,670 --> 02:20:35,767
fearful for their own safety

3607
02:20:35,767 --> 02:20:36,469
and wanted nothing further to

3608
02:20:36,469 --> 02:20:37,102
do with our case and refused

3609
02:20:37,102 --> 02:20:40,702
to report any of what had

3610
02:20:40,840 --> 02:20:41,540
occurred to the court. What I

3611
02:20:41,540 --> 02:20:43,540
found particularly concerning

3612
02:20:43,808 --> 02:20:44,543
was that as professional who

3613
02:20:44,543 --> 02:20:45,944
had personally experienced the

3614
02:20:45,944 --> 02:20:46,946
threatening behavior that I

3615
02:20:46,946 --> 02:20:47,612
have been describing for years

3616
02:20:47,612 --> 02:20:48,213
was now unwilling to bring

3617
02:20:48,213 --> 02:20:50,613
that information to the

3618
02:20:51,450 --> 02:20:52,151
courts. Attention. This

3619
02:20:52,151 --> 02:20:55,151
behavior was not an isolated

3620
02:20:55,221 --> 02:20:58,221
incident. Over the Bees or

3621
02:20:58,557 --> 02:20:59,225
threatening and intimidating

3622
02:20:59,225 --> 02:20:59,925
extended to attorneys court

3623
02:20:59,925 --> 02:21:01,927
and bailiffs and even judges

3624
02:21:01,927 --> 02:21:02,962
involved in our case. I can't

3625
02:21:02,962 --> 02:21:04,230
help but feel that it was it

3626
02:21:04,230 --> 02:21:04,929
wasn't until his abusive

3627
02:21:04,929 --> 02:21:05,631
behavior began affecting very

3628
02:21:05,631 --> 02:21:08,310
professionals involved in our

3629
02:21:08,500 --> 02:21:09,168
case. That what I had been

3630
02:21:09,168 --> 02:21:09,835
experiencing reporting for

3631
02:21:09,835 --> 02:21:12,835
your starting started to be

3632
02:21:13,706 --> 02:21:14,340
taken seriously. Co-parenting

3633
02:21:14,340 --> 02:21:16,740
therapy and family court

3634
02:21:17,810 --> 02:21:18,311
cannot resolve dynamic.

3635
02:21:18,311 --> 02:21:19,450
Dynamic rooted in

3636
02:21:19,450 --> 02:21:19,745
intimidation, fear and control

3637
02:21:19,745 --> 02:21:22,315
simply by asking both parents

3638
02:21:22,315 --> 02:21:24,283
to communicate better when

3639
02:21:24,283 --> 02:21:25,117
there's an ongoing pattern of

3640
02:21:25,117 --> 02:21:25,785
abuse treating both parties as

3641
02:21:25,785 --> 02:21:28,185
equally responsible for the

3642
02:21:28,187 --> 02:21:28,854
conflict or it risks

3643
02:21:28,854 --> 02:21:29,489
perpetuating the very harm.

3644
02:21:29,489 --> 02:21:32,489
The court is supposed to

3645
02:21:32,592 --> 02:21:33,759
prevent. For survivors of

3646
02:21:33,759 --> 02:21:34,460
domestic violence. The

3647
02:21:34,460 --> 02:21:35,127
courtroom can become another

3648
02:21:35,127 --> 02:21:36,829
place where abuse continues

3649
02:21:36,829 --> 02:21:39,229
long after the relationship

3650
02:21:39,799 --> 02:21:40,833
ended. This is why recognizing

3651
02:21:40,833 --> 02:21:41,867
post separation abuse,

3652
02:21:41,867 --> 02:21:43,102
including the potential misuse

3653
02:21:43,102 --> 02:21:44,690
of legal proceedings as a

3654
02:21:44,690 --> 02:21:46,469
means of maintaining control

3655
02:21:46,906 --> 02:21:47,640
is so critically important.

3656
02:21:47,640 --> 02:21:50,640
This proclamation is more than

3657
02:21:50,710 --> 02:21:51,409
symbolic its a step toward

3658
02:21:51,409 --> 02:21:52,845
awareness, accountability and

3659
02:21:52,845 --> 02:21:54,113
change. It shines a light on

3660
02:21:54,113 --> 02:21:54,814
the urgent need to prioritize

3661
02:21:54,814 --> 02:21:55,514
child safety in every

3662
02:21:55,514 --> 02:21:57,914
courtroom. In every decision.

3663
02:22:00,852 --> 02:22:01,954
Every time. Thank you.

3664
02:22:01,954 --> 02:22:02,655
Mustipher. Thank you for being

3665
02:22:02,655 --> 02:22:05,655
willing share your story. And

3666
02:22:06,459 --> 02:22:06,759
is it MISS Rodriguez? Thanks

3667
02:22:06,759 --> 02:22:07,593
him.

3668
02:22:07,593 --> 02:22:09,128
>> so. Welcome. Did you? Did

3669
02:22:09,128 --> 02:22:09,862
you have a statement Did

3670
02:22:09,862 --> 02:22:13,462
please, by all means will turn

3671
02:22:15,201 --> 02:22:18,404
will turn the mic Thank you.

3672
02:22:18,404 --> 02:22:18,805
Good evening. My name is Kanye

3673
02:22:18,805 --> 02:22:19,505
Rodriguez.

3674
02:22:19,505 --> 02:22:20,406
>> And I'm here today as the

3675
02:22:20,406 --> 02:22:21,240
Sonoma County mother who

3676
02:22:21,240 --> 02:22:21,941
endured a fearful experience

3677
02:22:21,941 --> 02:22:25,541
no parent should ever have to

3678
02:22:28,248 --> 02:22:28,882
face. On 6/18/2017, I called

3679
02:22:28,882 --> 02:22:29,549
law enforcement agencies

3680
02:22:29,549 --> 02:22:30,683
searching for my daughter,

3681
02:22:30,683 --> 02:22:34,283
Julianna. In mice and to link

3682
02:22:34,387 --> 02:22:35,880
a mayor. Who had not been

3683
02:22:35,880 --> 02:22:35,688
returned to me after spending

3684
02:22:35,688 --> 02:22:38,880
Father's Day with their

3685
02:22:38,224 --> 02:22:40,624
father. The following morning

3686
02:22:41,394 --> 02:22:42,610
on JUNE 19th police officers

3687
02:22:42,610 --> 02:22:43,863
and for me that my daughter

3688
02:22:43,863 --> 02:22:44,529
and son had been murdered by

3689
02:22:44,529 --> 02:22:47,529
their father before he took

3690
02:22:47,767 --> 02:22:50,503
his own life in his apartment.

3691
02:22:50,503 --> 02:22:51,471
During our custody mediation.

3692
02:22:51,471 --> 02:22:53,572
I spoke about harassment and

3693
02:22:53,572 --> 02:22:54,874
alcoholism that were occurring

3694
02:22:54,874 --> 02:22:57,874
and I checked the box

3695
02:22:59,412 --> 02:23:00,146
indicating domestic violence.

3696
02:23:00,146 --> 02:23:03,146
No translator was requested or

3697
02:23:03,916 --> 02:23:04,617
needed during our mediation.

3698
02:23:04,617 --> 02:23:06,586
Just days before the tragedy,

3699
02:23:06,586 --> 02:23:07,153
I stood before a judge at my

3700
02:23:07,153 --> 02:23:09,553
first and only court

3701
02:23:10,889 --> 02:23:12,391
appearance. A temporary child

3702
02:23:12,391 --> 02:23:13,930
custody order was being put

3703
02:23:13,930 --> 02:23:16,693
into place? Well, I raise my

3704
02:23:16,896 --> 02:23:18,832
voice. Stating I wasn't

3705
02:23:18,832 --> 02:23:20,000
leaving the courtroom without

3706
02:23:20,000 --> 02:23:20,767
something in writing to

3707
02:23:20,767 --> 02:23:21,401
protect myself and my children

3708
02:23:21,401 --> 02:23:23,801
for my strange husband's

3709
02:23:24,237 --> 02:23:26,172
erratic behavior. He stood

3710
02:23:26,172 --> 02:23:26,806
next to requested a translator

3711
02:23:26,806 --> 02:23:29,806
which the court could not

3712
02:23:30,844 --> 02:23:33,380
provide that day. As a result,

3713
02:23:33,380 --> 02:23:34,800
my concerns are left unheard

3714
02:23:34,800 --> 02:23:36,480
until are postponed. Hearing

3715
02:23:38,685 --> 02:23:39,285
the following month. I was in

3716
02:23:39,285 --> 02:23:41,285
an emotionally abusive

3717
02:23:41,488 --> 02:23:43,323
marriage for nearly 8 years. I

3718
02:23:43,323 --> 02:23:44,257
felt bound to stay out of

3719
02:23:44,257 --> 02:23:47,257
fear. What might transpire if

3720
02:23:47,794 --> 02:23:48,495
I finally there to leave. Post

3721
02:23:48,495 --> 02:23:50,895
separation abuses and spoken

3722
02:23:52,650 --> 02:23:52,766
about enough. For many

3723
02:23:52,766 --> 02:23:53,834
survivors. That abuse doesn't

3724
02:23:53,834 --> 02:23:56,234
end when the relationship

3725
02:23:57,369 --> 02:24:00,369
does. It often escalates. Not

3726
02:24:00,740 --> 02:24:01,441
only in my experience, but in

3727
02:24:01,441 --> 02:24:03,841
the countless experiences of

3728
02:24:04,111 --> 02:24:05,979
those in this room and beyond.

3729
02:24:05,979 --> 02:24:08,115
Voices often struggle to be

3730
02:24:08,115 --> 02:24:09,716
heard when there is no

3731
02:24:09,716 --> 02:24:10,317
accountability for false

3732
02:24:10,317 --> 02:24:10,951
statements used to gain

3733
02:24:10,951 --> 02:24:13,351
control within the family

3734
02:24:14,354 --> 02:24:15,540
court system. I hope for

3735
02:24:15,540 --> 02:24:17,240
Family Court Awareness Month

3736
02:24:17,240 --> 02:24:18,658
is that it gives everyone a

3737
02:24:18,658 --> 02:24:21,658
safe platform to be heard

3738
02:24:22,362 --> 02:24:23,263
regardless of gender. That it

3739
02:24:23,263 --> 02:24:25,980
raises awareness for the many

3740
02:24:25,980 --> 02:24:28,980
forms of domestic abuse shared

3741
02:24:29,202 --> 02:24:29,803
by stories. That acknowledges

3742
02:24:29,803 --> 02:24:32,203
the need for meaningful

3743
02:24:34,341 --> 02:24:35,409
reform. Most importantly that

3744
02:24:35,409 --> 02:24:36,643
we can unite in collaboration

3745
02:24:36,643 --> 02:24:39,643
to prioritize the safety of

3746
02:24:41,181 --> 02:24:43,581
innocent children. No amount

3747
02:24:43,917 --> 02:24:44,618
of words can begin to convey

3748
02:24:44,618 --> 02:24:47,618
the heartbreak and Boyd that

3749
02:24:48,210 --> 02:24:48,689
remain within me. We cannot

3750
02:24:48,689 --> 02:24:51,689
change what happened to my

3751
02:24:52,225 --> 02:24:52,926
children. But we can work

3752
02:24:52,926 --> 02:24:55,926
together to help change what

3753
02:24:56,930 --> 02:24:57,564
happens to other families. My

3754
02:24:57,564 --> 02:25:01,164
voice is that of a parent

3755
02:25:02,870 --> 02:25:05,870
silence by abuse. Thank you.

3756
02:25:07,640 --> 02:25:08,542
>> Thank you as well. We are.

3757
02:25:08,542 --> 02:25:09,376
We want want to bring you down

3758
02:25:09,376 --> 02:25:10,430
and take take a photo here in

3759
02:25:10,430 --> 02:25:13,430
front. Thank you again, so

3760
02:25:13,447 --> 02:25:15,115
much for coming out tonight.

3761
02:25:15,115 --> 02:25:15,783
First opened up to the public.

3762
02:25:15,783 --> 02:25:16,415
Are there any are there any

3763
02:25:16,415 --> 02:25:17,117
members of public hearing

3764
02:25:17,117 --> 02:25:20,117
Council chambers that wish to

3765
02:25:22,623 --> 02:25:23,357
make a comment? Go online?

3766
02:25:23,357 --> 02:25:24,570
Lord, is there anybody online

3767
02:25:24,570 --> 02:25:24,658
her hand raised anyone who's

3768
02:25:24,658 --> 02:25:26,658
down? Start on.

3769
02:25:28,895 --> 02:25:29,596
>> That's a negative mayor.

3770
02:25:29,596 --> 02:25:30,296
Thank you very much. Alright

3771
02:25:30,296 --> 02:25:30,998
county. Emily, if you would,

3772
02:25:30,998 --> 02:25:35,198
you would you come up with a

3773
02:25:44,645 --> 02:25:46,645
take a photo.

3774
02:27:20,308 --> 02:27:22,308
County. Thank

3775
02:27:27,148 --> 02:27:30,748
you. Once again. We are going

3776
02:27:34,222 --> 02:27:34,822
to go on. 2 pilots were

3777
02:27:34,822 --> 02:27:35,490
anywhere are statements

3778
02:27:35,490 --> 02:27:36,657
abstention or before we get

3779
02:27:36,657 --> 02:27:38,910
they the heart of our program

3780
02:27:38,910 --> 02:27:38,726
this evening. Are there any

3781
02:27:38,726 --> 02:27:41,126
statements of station are

3782
02:27:41,329 --> 02:27:43,729
choosing this evening? Seeing

3783
02:27:45,732 --> 02:27:47,868
none. For to go to our first.

3784
02:27:47,868 --> 02:27:49,804
Public comment non agenda

3785
02:27:49,804 --> 02:27:50,505
matters. So this is the chance

3786
02:27:50,505 --> 02:27:51,139
for members of the public to

3787
02:27:51,139 --> 02:27:54,139
make comment on items not

3788
02:27:54,742 --> 02:27:55,976
listed on the agenda. Are

3789
02:27:55,976 --> 02:27:56,945
there any members of the

3790
02:27:56,945 --> 02:27:57,779
public hearing Council

3791
02:27:57,779 --> 02:27:58,479
chambers who wish to make any

3792
02:27:58,479 --> 02:28:01,749
comment on items not list on

3793
02:28:01,749 --> 02:28:04,485
our agenda. Seeing none. We'll

3794
02:28:04,485 --> 02:28:05,352
go online. Warren, is there

3795
02:28:05,352 --> 02:28:06,530
anybody online with her hand

3796
02:28:06,530 --> 02:28:07,855
raised or there's anyone out

3797
02:28:07,855 --> 02:28:08,556
star 9?

3798
02:28:08,556 --> 02:28:10,391
>> They are not interested in

3799
02:28:10,391 --> 02:28:13,391
this item here. Thank you.

3800
02:28:13,661 --> 02:28:15,529
Thank you, Lauren.

3801
02:28:15,529 --> 02:28:17,665
>> All right. We're going to

3802
02:28:17,665 --> 02:28:18,266
do then why I we know that

3803
02:28:18,266 --> 02:28:19,634
we're we have a lot of

3804
02:28:19,634 --> 02:28:21,236
interest in or immigration

3805
02:28:21,236 --> 02:28:21,903
enforcement item. Want to get

3806
02:28:21,903 --> 02:28:23,370
to our public hearing first

3807
02:28:23,370 --> 02:28:24,972
and never really diversion

3808
02:28:24,972 --> 02:28:27,108
force meant. So let's move to

3809
02:28:27,108 --> 02:28:29,110
item 16.1. Our public hearing

3810
02:28:29,110 --> 02:28:30,912
related to the 2020 takes 2026

3811
02:28:30,912 --> 02:28:31,746
a county multi-jurisdictional

3812
02:28:31,746 --> 02:28:34,146
hazard mitigation plan and

3813
02:28:35,816 --> 02:28:37,619
city of Santa Rosa and acts.

3814
02:28:37,619 --> 02:28:38,319
And I believe it's MISS

3815
02:28:38,319 --> 02:28:41,919
Nicholson is back on the hot

3816
02:28:42,357 --> 02:28:45,357
seat. MR. Bregman. Welcome to

3817
02:28:57,371 --> 02:28:59,371
you both.

3818
02:29:04,145 --> 02:29:05,800
>> Good evening, mayor and

3819
02:29:05,800 --> 02:29:08,800
council members. We are here

3820
02:29:08,483 --> 02:29:09,150
today to present the 2026

3821
02:29:09,150 --> 02:29:11,150
Sonoma County

3822
02:29:11,185 --> 02:29:13,154
multi-jurisdictional Hazard

3823
02:29:13,154 --> 02:29:13,855
mitigation plan, which is a

3824
02:29:13,855 --> 02:29:14,523
mouthful, any very large

3825
02:29:14,523 --> 02:29:17,192
acronym is well, we try and

3826
02:29:17,192 --> 02:29:17,926
keep those as big as possible.

3827
02:29:17,926 --> 02:29:20,326
Has the emergency preparedness

3828
02:29:20,529 --> 02:29:21,695
manager for the city. I wanted

3829
02:29:21,695 --> 02:29:22,397
to just give you my

3830
02:29:22,397 --> 02:29:25,330
perspective on why this is a

3831
02:29:25,330 --> 02:29:27,535
very important plan. This plan

3832
02:29:27,535 --> 02:29:28,170
helps us answer 2 questions.

3833
02:29:28,170 --> 02:29:31,170
Where is Santa Rosa most

3834
02:29:31,840 --> 02:29:33,241
vulnerable? And what can we do

3835
02:29:33,241 --> 02:29:36,841
now to reduce harm from future

3836
02:29:38,980 --> 02:29:39,948
disasters? 22 jurisdictions

3837
02:29:39,948 --> 02:29:41,983
and partner agencies from

3838
02:29:41,983 --> 02:29:42,984
Sonoma County help develop the

3839
02:29:42,984 --> 02:29:45,984
plant plenty together. A list

3840
02:29:46,555 --> 02:29:47,823
polar expertise. Compare

3841
02:29:47,823 --> 02:29:49,791
priorities and decide what's

3842
02:29:49,791 --> 02:29:52,728
makes sense as far sharing

3843
02:29:52,728 --> 02:29:53,461
work disasters do not care

3844
02:29:53,461 --> 02:29:55,861
about jurisdictional lines and

3845
02:29:55,864 --> 02:29:56,498
many times we will need to

3846
02:29:56,498 --> 02:29:59,498
work with our partners on

3847
02:30:00,569 --> 02:30:02,536
mitigation projects. The plan

3848
02:30:02,536 --> 02:30:04,306
also allowed us to collaborate

3849
02:30:04,306 --> 02:30:06,408
not just on hazard mitigation,

3850
02:30:06,408 --> 02:30:08,376
but many other things with 22

3851
02:30:08,376 --> 02:30:09,444
jurisdictions. It allows yet

3852
02:30:09,444 --> 02:30:10,445
another opportunity to work

3853
02:30:10,445 --> 02:30:12,547
with our colleagues and think

3854
02:30:12,547 --> 02:30:14,820
about what is necessary to

3855
02:30:14,820 --> 02:30:14,683
reduce risk for Santa Rosa

3856
02:30:14,683 --> 02:30:16,683
residents, citizens and

3857
02:30:20,155 --> 02:30:20,822
visitors. Santa Rosa help

3858
02:30:20,822 --> 02:30:21,455
develop this plan with the

3859
02:30:21,455 --> 02:30:23,158
county right process that

3860
02:30:23,158 --> 02:30:25,558
included 10 meetings where the

3861
02:30:27,195 --> 02:30:27,863
public can weigh in. We hosted

3862
02:30:27,863 --> 02:30:29,640
the county and our regional

3863
02:30:29,640 --> 02:30:32,640
partners at Family Center help

3864
02:30:32,401 --> 02:30:33,101
convene a regional online

3865
02:30:33,101 --> 02:30:34,303
session and took part in the

3866
02:30:34,303 --> 02:30:36,303
Hazard Mitigation, working

3867
02:30:37,272 --> 02:30:38,474
group. The County Wide Survey

3868
02:30:38,474 --> 02:30:40,575
which was open from OCTOBER

3869
02:30:40,575 --> 02:30:43,575
through NOVEMBER of last year,

3870
02:30:43,612 --> 02:30:44,313
got 580 responses. And we've

3871
02:30:44,313 --> 02:30:47,313
tried to address every single

3872
02:30:47,482 --> 02:30:48,150
one of those. Over the next 5

3873
02:30:48,150 --> 02:30:50,850
years will use the plan to

3874
02:30:50,850 --> 02:30:51,820
decide which projects we

3875
02:30:51,820 --> 02:30:52,488
should develop. What we can

3876
02:30:52,488 --> 02:30:56,250
invest in and how to track

3877
02:30:56,250 --> 02:30:56,725
progress. Council's adoption

3878
02:30:56,725 --> 02:30:59,361
also helps us with something

3879
02:30:59,361 --> 02:31:00,562
very significant. Important.

3880
02:31:00,562 --> 02:31:01,263
Fema requires this plan's

3881
02:31:01,263 --> 02:31:04,863
adoption in order to get any

3882
02:31:04,867 --> 02:31:05,868
hazard mitigation grant along

3883
02:31:05,868 --> 02:31:07,236
with many other federal grant.

3884
02:31:07,236 --> 02:31:07,870
It is a rough first

3885
02:31:07,870 --> 02:31:08,570
requirement at the top of

3886
02:31:08,570 --> 02:31:12,170
their box of things that have

3887
02:31:14,176 --> 02:31:14,810
to be checked. So with that. I

3888
02:31:14,810 --> 02:31:15,511
emphasize that this is a

3889
02:31:15,511 --> 02:31:17,812
important plan, but it is a

3890
02:31:17,812 --> 02:31:19,114
mitigation, forward-looking

3891
02:31:19,114 --> 02:31:19,815
plan that has many projects

3892
02:31:19,815 --> 02:31:21,550
that MAY not necessarily be

3893
02:31:21,550 --> 02:31:24,668
capable of being funded by the

3894
02:31:24,668 --> 02:31:25,530
city. It's just everything

3895
02:31:25,530 --> 02:31:27,289
that we think should be done.

3896
02:31:27,289 --> 02:31:29,125
And with that for

3897
02:31:29,125 --> 02:31:30,960
presentation, turn over to

3898
02:31:30,960 --> 02:31:33,495
Amy. Thank you so much, Neil.

3899
02:31:33,495 --> 02:31:34,163
And good afternoon, mayor and.

3900
02:31:34,163 --> 02:31:35,263
>> Good evening, mayor and

3901
02:31:35,263 --> 02:31:37,663
council members. A Munich

3902
02:31:41,403 --> 02:31:42,471
Wilson. I'm gonna go through

3903
02:31:42,471 --> 02:31:43,239
this presentation quickly

3904
02:31:43,239 --> 02:31:45,107
were, of course happy to

3905
02:31:45,107 --> 02:31:46,275
answer any questions that you

3906
02:31:46,275 --> 02:31:48,477
might have. So as Neil

3907
02:31:48,477 --> 02:31:50,479
described a hazard mitigation

3908
02:31:50,479 --> 02:31:51,147
plan is a strategy for

3909
02:31:51,147 --> 02:31:53,547
reducing impacts of natural

3910
02:31:55,830 --> 02:31:57,886
disasters. It looks at the

3911
02:31:57,886 --> 02:31:58,587
hazards that were most

3912
02:31:58,587 --> 02:31:59,155
vulnerable to and identifies

3913
02:31:59,155 --> 02:32:01,230
the city's existing

3914
02:32:01,230 --> 02:32:03,920
capabilities to respond to

3915
02:32:03,920 --> 02:32:03,759
those and actions that we can

3916
02:32:03,759 --> 02:32:07,359
take to reduce risks in the

3917
02:32:07,496 --> 02:32:09,398
future. As Neil mention, the

3918
02:32:09,398 --> 02:32:10,532
plan also helps the city to

3919
02:32:10,532 --> 02:32:11,500
qualify for additional fema

3920
02:32:11,500 --> 02:32:13,469
grant funding, which is

3921
02:32:13,469 --> 02:32:15,304
critical for many of our

3922
02:32:15,304 --> 02:32:16,380
planned capital improvement

3923
02:32:16,380 --> 02:32:19,380
projects to reduce impacts of

3924
02:32:20,375 --> 02:32:22,845
hazards. The plan is comprised

3925
02:32:22,845 --> 02:32:25,181
of 2 volumes. The first is

3926
02:32:25,181 --> 02:32:27,583
just the county at large and

3927
02:32:27,583 --> 02:32:30,253
all that we have in common is

3928
02:32:30,253 --> 02:32:30,886
jurisdictions. The second

3929
02:32:30,886 --> 02:32:32,855
volume includes an ex is

3930
02:32:32,855 --> 02:32:35,255
specific to jurisdictions. The

3931
02:32:36,792 --> 02:32:37,994
city of Santa Rosa Chapter 8.

3932
02:32:37,994 --> 02:32:41,594
This plan is reviewed by fema

3933
02:32:41,998 --> 02:32:42,697
and the California. Governor's

3934
02:32:42,697 --> 02:32:43,298
Office of Emergency Services,

3935
02:32:43,298 --> 02:32:45,698
which is the California

3936
02:32:49,710 --> 02:32:51,307
Department. They have provided

3937
02:32:51,307 --> 02:32:52,410
their technical review ahead

3938
02:32:52,410 --> 02:32:54,976
of council's adoption. And the

3939
02:32:54,976 --> 02:32:56,145
final step would be fema's

3940
02:32:56,145 --> 02:32:58,145
final approval following

3941
02:33:01,184 --> 02:33:01,984
council's action this evening.

3942
02:33:01,984 --> 02:33:02,719
The Hazard Mitigation Plan has

3943
02:33:02,719 --> 02:33:05,719
numerous goals that are shown

3944
02:33:06,489 --> 02:33:08,491
here on the slide. First and

3945
02:33:08,491 --> 02:33:09,125
foremost is protecting people

3946
02:33:09,125 --> 02:33:11,125
and minimizing damages 2

3947
02:33:13,162 --> 02:33:14,664
properties as well as our

3948
02:33:14,664 --> 02:33:17,000
local economy and continuing

3949
02:33:17,000 --> 02:33:17,600
to protect the environment

3950
02:33:17,600 --> 02:33:20,000
through Our actions as

3951
02:33:24,274 --> 02:33:26,109
possible. The Santa Rosa Annex

3952
02:33:26,109 --> 02:33:29,709
does include a center is a

3953
02:33:30,146 --> 02:33:31,613
specific hazard risk table.

3954
02:33:31,613 --> 02:33:32,282
The highest risk hazards, as

3955
02:33:32,282 --> 02:33:34,682
you MAY imagine. Earthquake

3956
02:33:37,587 --> 02:33:38,288
and wildfire. And factors.

3957
02:33:38,288 --> 02:33:40,688
Generating these high medium

3958
02:33:44,930 --> 02:33:46,290
and low risks. Relate to. The

3959
02:33:46,290 --> 02:33:47,630
number of people and buildings

3960
02:33:47,630 --> 02:33:49,198
that are with in areas where

3961
02:33:49,198 --> 02:33:51,267
these hazards are more likely

3962
02:33:51,267 --> 02:33:53,200
the probability of those

3963
02:33:53,200 --> 02:33:53,670
hazards occurring and then the

3964
02:33:53,670 --> 02:33:54,337
existing mitigation

3965
02:33:54,337 --> 02:33:56,737
capabilities that the city

3966
02:33:58,475 --> 02:34:00,610
has. Climate change is also

3967
02:34:00,610 --> 02:34:02,578
considered and this risk

3968
02:34:02,578 --> 02:34:03,279
assessment as there are some

3969
02:34:03,279 --> 02:34:03,980
hazards that are more likely

3970
02:34:03,980 --> 02:34:06,980
to increase based on changes

3971
02:34:09,452 --> 02:34:13,520
to our climate. Much of the

3972
02:34:13,957 --> 02:34:15,291
city's jurisdictional annex is

3973
02:34:15,291 --> 02:34:17,691
inclusive of our mitigation

3974
02:34:18,293 --> 02:34:19,696
strategies. So there are 28

3975
02:34:19,696 --> 02:34:21,696
actions that specifically

3976
02:34:22,332 --> 02:34:25,332
address each of our hazard

3977
02:34:27,470 --> 02:34:29,572
areas. As Neil mentioned. This

3978
02:34:29,572 --> 02:34:31,408
is a document that really at

3979
02:34:31,408 --> 02:34:32,542
references other items that

3980
02:34:32,542 --> 02:34:33,776
the council the public are

3981
02:34:33,776 --> 02:34:34,411
familiar with. So the

3982
02:34:34,411 --> 02:34:36,346
greenhouse gas reduction

3983
02:34:36,346 --> 02:34:37,280
strategy, the city's capital

3984
02:34:37,280 --> 02:34:39,115
improvement program, the

3985
02:34:39,115 --> 02:34:41,115
community wildfire protection

3986
02:34:42,652 --> 02:34:43,386
program, each of those items

3987
02:34:43,386 --> 02:34:46,122
work together and help to keep

3988
02:34:46,122 --> 02:34:48,892
our community safer. And also

3989
02:34:48,892 --> 02:34:50,927
help us to meet mutual goals

3990
02:34:50,927 --> 02:34:52,929
at once by obtaining

3991
02:34:52,929 --> 02:34:53,597
additional funding that's

3992
02:34:53,597 --> 02:34:55,997
available from the federal

3993
02:34:57,667 --> 02:34:58,969
government and the state. Just

3994
02:34:58,969 --> 02:35:00,170
a quick note that there was

3995
02:35:00,170 --> 02:35:02,570
some additional language added

3996
02:35:04,608 --> 02:35:06,376
to this plan after the public

3997
02:35:06,376 --> 02:35:06,943
review period. This was based

3998
02:35:06,943 --> 02:35:07,677
on a request from the

3999
02:35:07,677 --> 02:35:10,770
California Department of Parks

4000
02:35:11,814 --> 02:35:14,840
that. Was eligible for some

4001
02:35:14,840 --> 02:35:16,286
grant funding to do some

4002
02:35:16,286 --> 02:35:17,754
repairs on a dam in an adult

4003
02:35:17,754 --> 02:35:18,422
state park. We added this

4004
02:35:18,422 --> 02:35:20,256
language so that they could

4005
02:35:20,256 --> 02:35:22,458
get all that money. And so

4006
02:35:22,458 --> 02:35:23,527
that highlights the importance

4007
02:35:23,527 --> 02:35:25,629
of having this plan and having

4008
02:35:25,629 --> 02:35:28,629
highlight any project that we

4009
02:35:29,298 --> 02:35:31,334
think can reduce impacts of

4010
02:35:31,334 --> 02:35:32,335
hazards. So we'll kind of a

4011
02:35:32,335 --> 02:35:33,300
separate reference to that

4012
02:35:33,300 --> 02:35:35,403
language in the resolution

4013
02:35:38,675 --> 02:35:40,210
before you. As mentioned,

4014
02:35:40,210 --> 02:35:41,777
there's public and stakeholder

4015
02:35:41,777 --> 02:35:43,777
engagement throughout this

4016
02:35:44,147 --> 02:35:47,747
process. So I want run through

4017
02:35:48,652 --> 02:35:50,554
each one of those items. And

4018
02:35:50,554 --> 02:35:52,222
with that, the fire department

4019
02:35:52,222 --> 02:35:52,956
and planning and economic

4020
02:35:52,956 --> 02:35:54,956
development department

4021
02:35:56,960 --> 02:35:58,862
recommend that the council by

4022
02:35:58,862 --> 02:35:59,663
resolution adopt the volume.

4023
02:35:59,663 --> 02:36:01,532
Basic plan of the

4024
02:36:01,532 --> 02:36:03,532
multi-jurisdictional hazard

4025
02:36:03,667 --> 02:36:04,835
mitigation plan as well as

4026
02:36:04,835 --> 02:36:07,170
volume 2, which consists of

4027
02:36:07,170 --> 02:36:07,905
the jurisdictional annexes.

4028
02:36:07,905 --> 02:36:11,742
And we are happy to answer any

4029
02:36:11,742 --> 02:36:12,443
questions. All right. Thank

4030
02:36:12,443 --> 02:36:15,312
you very much. Are there any

4031
02:36:15,312 --> 02:36:17,810
questions from my colleagues?

4032
02:36:17,810 --> 02:36:20,810
>> Seeing none. We will open

4033
02:36:21,510 --> 02:36:21,719
the public hearing. And go to

4034
02:36:21,719 --> 02:36:24,719
any public comment on this

4035
02:36:27,240 --> 02:36:29,326
item. Seeing nobody moving in

4036
02:36:29,326 --> 02:36:29,993
the chambers. We will go to

4037
02:36:29,993 --> 02:36:32,229
zoom. Where is Let us know

4038
02:36:32,229 --> 02:36:32,963
anybody wants to speak?

4039
02:36:32,963 --> 02:36:33,630
>> Yes. If you'd like to speak

4040
02:36:33,630 --> 02:36:36,630
on this item, please raise

4041
02:36:38,100 --> 02:36:38,702
your hand. And I am seeing no

4042
02:36:38,702 --> 02:36:42,302
one wishing to speak on this

4043
02:36:42,640 --> 02:36:43,307
item.

4044
02:36:43,307 --> 02:36:43,941
>> Alright, with that, I'll

4045
02:36:43,941 --> 02:36:47,541
turn it back over to the

4046
02:36:53,500 --> 02:36:54,285
mayor. Okay. So that will

4047
02:36:54,285 --> 02:36:54,952
close the public hearing and

4048
02:36:54,952 --> 02:36:58,552
bring it back for a final

4049
02:37:02,793 --> 02:37:03,527
comments from council.

4050
02:37:03,527 --> 02:37:04,895
>> Thanks for calling on me. I

4051
02:37:04,895 --> 02:37:06,263
just want to say thank you for

4052
02:37:06,263 --> 02:37:07,998
the presentation and all the

4053
02:37:07,998 --> 02:37:10,901
work that went into outreach

4054
02:37:10,901 --> 02:37:12,169
on this so that we're really

4055
02:37:12,169 --> 02:37:12,836
hearing everything and that

4056
02:37:12,836 --> 02:37:13,504
the opportunity for a grand

4057
02:37:13,504 --> 02:37:14,205
Just want to thank you and

4058
02:37:14,205 --> 02:37:16,407
commend you for your work on

4059
02:37:16,407 --> 02:37:17,700
this more than anything. Thank

4060
02:37:17,700 --> 02:37:19,407
you. Anything else from

4061
02:37:20,745 --> 02:37:21,445
council?

4062
02:37:21,445 --> 02:37:24,381
>> All right. Are looking for

4063
02:37:24,381 --> 02:37:27,381
a motion from. Donald, stay

4064
02:37:28,218 --> 02:37:28,818
with you.

4065
02:37:28,818 --> 02:37:29,487
>> I move to adopt the

4066
02:37:29,487 --> 02:37:31,887
resolution as presented by

4067
02:37:32,323 --> 02:37:35,192
staff second. Motion and a

4068
02:37:35,192 --> 02:37:35,826
second by MISTER Okrepkie.

4069
02:37:35,826 --> 02:37:38,226
>> MADAM City Clerk, call

4070
02:37:41,320 --> 02:37:43,320
whenever you're ready.

4071
02:37:46,470 --> 02:37:47,104
>> Thank you, Mayor.

4072
02:37:47,104 --> 02:37:49,104
Councilmember Rogers, I

4073
02:37:50,140 --> 02:37:51,750
Councilmember MacDonald, my

4074
02:37:51,750 --> 02:37:52,676
councilmember Fleming

4075
02:37:52,676 --> 02:37:53,344
Councilmember Bungalows. Yes,

4076
02:37:53,344 --> 02:37:55,344
Councilmember Alvarez, vice

4077
02:37:55,713 --> 02:37:58,683
Mayor Crappie. I mayor step

4078
02:37:58,683 --> 02:37:59,650
yes. But the record show this

4079
02:37:59,650 --> 02:38:00,318
passes unanimously.

4080
02:38:00,318 --> 02:38:01,520
>> Thank you very much. All

4081
02:38:01,520 --> 02:38:04,652
right. Let's pop back up then

4082
02:38:05,823 --> 02:38:08,920
to item 15.2, our report on

4083
02:38:08,920 --> 02:38:08,759
the ordinance introduction for

4084
02:38:08,759 --> 02:38:09,860
the ordinance entitled the

4085
02:38:09,860 --> 02:38:11,929
Ordinance of the Council of

4086
02:38:11,929 --> 02:38:12,763
the City of Santa Rosa.

4087
02:38:12,763 --> 02:38:14,632
Amending chapter 13 Dash 40 of

4088
02:38:14,632 --> 02:38:15,266
the center is a city code to

4089
02:38:15,266 --> 02:38:16,000
prohibit the use of city

4090
02:38:16,000 --> 02:38:16,733
property to collaborate with

4091
02:38:16,733 --> 02:38:18,469
immigration authorities in the

4092
02:38:18,469 --> 02:38:20,371
enforcement, a federal civil

4093
02:38:20,371 --> 02:38:21,639
immigration law subject to the

4094
02:38:21,639 --> 02:38:22,440
chapters, existing exceptions

4095
02:38:22,440 --> 02:38:23,540
and resolution adopting

4096
02:38:23,540 --> 02:38:24,642
Council policy regarding civil

4097
02:38:24,642 --> 02:38:25,343
immigration enforcement and

4098
02:38:25,343 --> 02:38:26,144
Immigration Authority, access

4099
02:38:26,144 --> 02:38:28,544
to city facilities and

4100
02:38:32,183 --> 02:38:32,884
information. All right. And

4101
02:38:32,884 --> 02:38:35,186
thank you to all the members,

4102
02:38:35,186 --> 02:38:37,121
the community who are again in

4103
02:38:37,121 --> 02:38:38,289
council chambers. This has

4104
02:38:38,289 --> 02:38:39,156
been a an important, an

4105
02:38:39,156 --> 02:38:39,824
extended discussion here,

4106
02:38:39,824 --> 02:38:42,824
going the entire county and

4107
02:38:44,262 --> 02:38:45,263
certainly here in Santa Rosa.

4108
02:38:45,263 --> 02:38:47,650
City manager, not I'll turn it

4109
02:38:47,650 --> 02:38:47,732
over to or us or actually.

4110
02:38:47,732 --> 02:38:50,132
City City Attorney Crocker,

4111
02:38:50,902 --> 02:38:51,602
which weny's kicking us off. I

4112
02:38:51,602 --> 02:38:53,538
bear. I'll go ahead and kick

4113
02:38:53,538 --> 02:38:56,400
us off. Thank you very much.

4114
02:38:56,400 --> 02:38:57,442
>> 4 entertaining this item

4115
02:38:57,442 --> 02:38:58,476
this evening. As you

4116
02:38:58,476 --> 02:39:00,144
mentioned, I'm Jason, not I'm

4117
02:39:00,144 --> 02:39:02,313
the city manager, our interim

4118
02:39:02,313 --> 02:39:04,882
city manager. I'm joined here

4119
02:39:04,882 --> 02:39:05,616
at the table with City

4120
02:39:05,616 --> 02:39:06,617
Attorney Ashley Crocker and

4121
02:39:06,617 --> 02:39:09,170
Assistant City Attorney Jan

4122
02:39:11,923 --> 02:39:13,925
help lure and unfortunately,

4123
02:39:13,925 --> 02:39:14,992
our 4th colleague who is to be

4124
02:39:14,992 --> 02:39:17,996
here today is out ill today,

4125
02:39:17,996 --> 02:39:18,796
but we do Lindsay Dority for

4126
02:39:18,796 --> 02:39:20,198
the work that she in trying to

4127
02:39:20,198 --> 02:39:24,398
get this and bring it to this

4128
02:39:26,937 --> 02:39:27,905
point. With that said, I want

4129
02:39:27,905 --> 02:39:30,875
to I want to before I get too

4130
02:39:30,875 --> 02:39:32,877
far into this. I just want to

4131
02:39:32,877 --> 02:39:34,978
appreciation. There's been a

4132
02:39:34,978 --> 02:39:36,180
lot of work being done in in

4133
02:39:36,180 --> 02:39:36,848
this space over the course of

4134
02:39:36,848 --> 02:39:40,448
the last couple of years. I

4135
02:39:41,850 --> 02:39:41,786
think. City manager's office

4136
02:39:41,786 --> 02:39:43,200
city attorneys office has

4137
02:39:43,200 --> 02:39:45,790
spent quite a bit of time

4138
02:39:45,790 --> 02:39:47,250
looking at various various

4139
02:39:47,250 --> 02:39:47,993
resolutions and ordinances

4140
02:39:47,993 --> 02:39:50,728
that we could incorporate to

4141
02:39:50,728 --> 02:39:51,896
enhance and further improve

4142
02:39:51,896 --> 02:39:52,564
protections that we can

4143
02:39:52,564 --> 02:39:53,264
provide to the communities

4144
02:39:53,264 --> 02:39:56,864
that we serve within the city

4145
02:39:58,403 --> 02:40:00,171
of Santa Rosa. In doing so.

4146
02:40:00,171 --> 02:40:00,839
We've had recent conversations

4147
02:40:00,839 --> 02:40:03,239
with community members that

4148
02:40:03,642 --> 02:40:04,776
have been incredibly helpful.

4149
02:40:04,776 --> 02:40:05,410
And I really want to

4150
02:40:05,410 --> 02:40:07,410
appreciate the sanctuary

4151
02:40:07,779 --> 02:40:09,880
coalition, honestly, but at a

4152
02:40:09,880 --> 02:40:12,280
North Bay organizing project

4153
02:40:12,917 --> 02:40:15,530
for spending time folks,

4154
02:40:15,530 --> 02:40:16,210
folks, as we we work through a

4155
02:40:16,210 --> 02:40:17,550
couple of weeks ago, we got to

4156
02:40:17,550 --> 02:40:18,790
keep it quiet. So we keep the

4157
02:40:18,790 --> 02:40:20,559
meeting going. So if you don't

4158
02:40:20,559 --> 02:40:21,159
mind you, the dew jazz hands,

4159
02:40:21,159 --> 02:40:21,860
but no, no applause, no

4160
02:40:21,860 --> 02:40:22,527
snapping fingers and Cetera.

4161
02:40:22,527 --> 02:40:23,528
Thank you. Thank you for

4162
02:40:23,528 --> 02:40:25,528
coming.

4163
02:40:25,764 --> 02:40:26,897
>> manager, not back to you.

4164
02:40:26,897 --> 02:40:30,680
Thank you. And I want to also

4165
02:40:30,680 --> 02:40:31,836
say a North Bay organizing

4166
02:40:31,836 --> 02:40:34,720
project working closely over

4167
02:40:34,720 --> 02:40:35,907
the last 2 weeks as we got

4168
02:40:35,907 --> 02:40:36,641
further direction from council

4169
02:40:36,641 --> 02:40:37,342
to proceed in and get a little

4170
02:40:37,342 --> 02:40:39,511
bit of additional feedback on

4171
02:40:39,511 --> 02:40:40,979
things. Council was looking

4172
02:40:40,979 --> 02:40:43,379
for working with these

4173
02:40:43,715 --> 02:40:44,983
organizations, gave us a

4174
02:40:44,983 --> 02:40:46,651
little bit. Well, actually

4175
02:40:46,651 --> 02:40:48,386
gave us a substantial amount

4176
02:40:48,386 --> 02:40:50,522
of additional insight as to

4177
02:40:50,522 --> 02:40:51,656
what requests what concerns

4178
02:40:51,656 --> 02:40:55,256
and what options we might be

4179
02:40:55,427 --> 02:40:56,528
able to put in place that

4180
02:40:56,528 --> 02:40:57,462
ultimately resulted in the

4181
02:40:57,462 --> 02:40:58,130
actions that we're bringing

4182
02:40:58,130 --> 02:41:01,130
that we're bringing to you

4183
02:41:01,967 --> 02:41:05,300
today. With that there will be

4184
02:41:05,300 --> 02:41:05,904
2 actions that we're looking

4185
02:41:05,904 --> 02:41:08,304
talking through with council

4186
02:41:09,374 --> 02:41:12,244
and hoping for approvals. The

4187
02:41:12,244 --> 02:41:13,679
first is to implement a policy

4188
02:41:13,679 --> 02:41:16,140
guidance for city staff

4189
02:41:16,140 --> 02:41:19,140
through the course of adopting

4190
02:41:20,886 --> 02:41:22,855
a resolution as As we've

4191
02:41:22,855 --> 02:41:23,522
discussed previously,

4192
02:41:23,522 --> 02:41:24,623
resolutions are typically a

4193
02:41:24,623 --> 02:41:26,792
mechanism in a methodology for

4194
02:41:26,792 --> 02:41:29,940
which with which the council

4195
02:41:29,940 --> 02:41:30,229
creates Council oriented

4196
02:41:30,229 --> 02:41:31,630
policies. Those policies

4197
02:41:31,630 --> 02:41:34,300
affecting them are implemented

4198
02:41:34,990 --> 02:41:35,733
too manage and address House

4199
02:41:35,733 --> 02:41:36,501
staff incorporate certain

4200
02:41:36,501 --> 02:41:38,901
practices into their daily

4201
02:41:40,738 --> 02:41:41,640
work and consistent with the

4202
02:41:41,640 --> 02:41:43,640
attorney general's guidelines

4203
02:41:45,477 --> 02:41:46,445
as well as sb 580, resolution

4204
02:41:46,445 --> 02:41:47,679
and associated Policy does

4205
02:41:47,679 --> 02:41:50,679
exactly that is intended to

4206
02:41:51,450 --> 02:41:54,386
helped guide staff in relation

4207
02:41:54,386 --> 02:41:55,870
to how interact with and how

4208
02:41:55,870 --> 02:41:57,389
we respond to a request made

4209
02:41:57,389 --> 02:41:59,389
by immigration. Authorities.

4210
02:42:00,392 --> 02:42:01,226
The second will be a non

4211
02:42:01,226 --> 02:42:03,950
collaboration ordinance and

4212
02:42:03,950 --> 02:42:06,231
will also go into more detail

4213
02:42:06,231 --> 02:42:08,700
on this. The primary focus

4214
02:42:08,700 --> 02:42:12,700
here is to confirm and be very

4215
02:42:12,700 --> 02:42:14,873
clear about the status of our

4216
02:42:14,873 --> 02:42:15,674
collaborate. Take

4217
02:42:15,674 --> 02:42:17,674
collaboration, commitment. 2

4218
02:42:17,775 --> 02:42:19,775
interactions with immigration

4219
02:42:20,579 --> 02:42:21,913
authorities. And this in all

4220
02:42:21,913 --> 02:42:22,648
amendment to an existing

4221
02:42:22,648 --> 02:42:25,480
ordinance that council adopted

4222
02:42:26,170 --> 02:42:29,170
earlier this year and should

4223
02:42:29,555 --> 02:42:30,389
hopefully clarify the the

4224
02:42:30,389 --> 02:42:33,389
direction that we heard from

4225
02:42:35,427 --> 02:42:36,600
council and the community to

4226
02:42:36,600 --> 02:42:36,562
improve our improve our

4227
02:42:36,562 --> 02:42:38,562
statement of non

4228
02:42:41,166 --> 02:42:42,901
collaboration. Fairly quickly

4229
02:42:42,901 --> 02:42:45,400
wanting to walk through the

4230
02:42:45,400 --> 02:42:47,106
council policies. I'm not

4231
02:42:47,106 --> 02:42:48,307
going to spend a lot of time.

4232
02:42:48,307 --> 02:42:49,508
I'm historically I've gone

4233
02:42:49,508 --> 02:42:51,277
through line by line. Every

4234
02:42:51,277 --> 02:42:52,770
specific policy. I will not do

4235
02:42:52,770 --> 02:42:55,677
that today because I want to

4236
02:42:55,815 --> 02:42:59,415
talk and just say we've got 6

4237
02:42:59,552 --> 02:43:00,819
specific points that we've

4238
02:43:00,819 --> 02:43:02,120
been able to check boxes on as

4239
02:43:02,120 --> 02:43:03,722
we develop this policy that

4240
02:43:03,722 --> 02:43:05,257
are all consistency, feel

4241
02:43:05,257 --> 02:43:05,925
findings with the attorney

4242
02:43:05,925 --> 02:43:08,325
general's guidance. When we

4243
02:43:08,660 --> 02:43:12,260
think about how city staff is

4244
02:43:12,431 --> 02:43:13,399
going to respond to

4245
02:43:13,399 --> 02:43:15,399
immigration authorities in

4246
02:43:15,401 --> 02:43:16,102
various ways. We've

4247
02:43:16,102 --> 02:43:17,603
established protocols. Those

4248
02:43:17,603 --> 02:43:20,603
show up in sections. 3.3 of

4249
02:43:21,339 --> 02:43:24,777
the new policy. When we talk

4250
02:43:24,777 --> 02:43:25,444
about which personnel is

4251
02:43:25,444 --> 02:43:27,444
ultimately responsible for

4252
02:43:29,810 --> 02:43:29,715
rebel. You waiting reviewing

4253
02:43:29,715 --> 02:43:32,115
requests that come It

4254
02:43:32,151 --> 02:43:34,720
identifies the city manager is

4255
02:43:34,720 --> 02:43:35,988
the primary area primary

4256
02:43:35,988 --> 02:43:36,621
authority by requires or

4257
02:43:36,621 --> 02:43:37,223
recommends that the city

4258
02:43:37,223 --> 02:43:39,623
attorney be involved in

4259
02:43:39,791 --> 02:43:40,927
various circumstances

4260
02:43:40,927 --> 02:43:43,327
depending upon depending upon

4261
02:43:43,930 --> 02:43:44,597
the situation that's at hand.

4262
02:43:44,597 --> 02:43:47,533
Those are both outlined in

4263
02:43:47,533 --> 02:43:49,533
sections. 3.2 3.8, we talk

4264
02:43:50,690 --> 02:43:50,870
about how what allowable

4265
02:43:50,870 --> 02:43:53,870
access is with city facilities

4266
02:43:54,374 --> 02:43:55,141
and city properties. Those get

4267
02:43:55,141 --> 02:43:57,541
further outlined in sections.

4268
02:43:58,978 --> 02:44:00,978
3.4 3.5 and are compliance

4269
02:44:02,548 --> 02:44:04,548
with ordinance number 202,

4270
02:44:08,820 --> 02:44:09,789
Dash, 0, 0, 5, which added the

4271
02:44:09,789 --> 02:44:12,789
which added the general plan

4272
02:44:12,925 --> 02:44:13,626
section 13 Dash 40 yen and

4273
02:44:13,626 --> 02:44:14,294
city Attorney Crocker will go

4274
02:44:14,294 --> 02:44:17,894
through that here in just a

4275
02:44:18,296 --> 02:44:21,296
little bit. It also provides

4276
02:44:21,467 --> 02:44:22,135
additional information on what

4277
02:44:22,135 --> 02:44:22,802
happens if a federal agent

4278
02:44:22,802 --> 02:44:24,404
shows up with a warrant or

4279
02:44:24,404 --> 02:44:25,872
doesn't have a warrant and

4280
02:44:25,872 --> 02:44:26,606
give staff more information on

4281
02:44:26,606 --> 02:44:28,307
how they're supposed to behave

4282
02:44:28,307 --> 02:44:29,209
and interact with those

4283
02:44:29,209 --> 02:44:32,209
federal agents when they do

4284
02:44:33,213 --> 02:44:36,213
arrive in a city building.

4285
02:44:36,282 --> 02:44:37,150
When we think about

4286
02:44:37,150 --> 02:44:37,784
documentation sections, a

4287
02:44:37,784 --> 02:44:38,685
majority of the sections

4288
02:44:38,685 --> 02:44:40,685
within this policy, 3.0, 5, 3,

4289
02:44:42,789 --> 02:44:44,789
0, 6, 3.9, 3.11, all give

4290
02:44:45,858 --> 02:44:46,793
detailed information under

4291
02:44:46,793 --> 02:44:48,695
various circumstances as to

4292
02:44:48,695 --> 02:44:51,264
how the city will collect

4293
02:44:51,264 --> 02:44:53,320
disseminate or utilize

4294
02:44:53,320 --> 02:44:53,766
documentation relating to

4295
02:44:53,766 --> 02:44:56,166
personal information and it

4296
02:44:58,104 --> 02:44:59,939
creates a city manager process

4297
02:44:59,939 --> 02:45:00,640
for for collecting and

4298
02:45:00,640 --> 02:45:01,340
maintaining that data should

4299
02:45:01,340 --> 02:45:04,340
any of our protocols require

4300
02:45:08,381 --> 02:45:09,716
it? We also talk about how we

4301
02:45:09,716 --> 02:45:11,184
gather and and handle requests

4302
02:45:11,184 --> 02:45:13,584
for those informations in

4303
02:45:17,323 --> 02:45:18,224
Section 3.6 3.7 and then we go

4304
02:45:18,224 --> 02:45:19,592
into last talking about how

4305
02:45:19,592 --> 02:45:21,728
we're going to train our staff

4306
02:45:21,728 --> 02:45:23,630
so that the policy itself is

4307
02:45:23,630 --> 02:45:24,364
clearly understood that we

4308
02:45:24,364 --> 02:45:25,650
have detailed information for

4309
02:45:25,650 --> 02:45:26,733
individuals at various levels

4310
02:45:26,733 --> 02:45:27,968
within the organization to be

4311
02:45:27,968 --> 02:45:30,270
able to handle those

4312
02:45:30,270 --> 02:45:31,905
interactions. We recognize

4313
02:45:31,905 --> 02:45:34,305
those interactions can be

4314
02:45:34,307 --> 02:45:36,707
incredibly stressful. They can

4315
02:45:38,611 --> 02:45:39,479
be challenging. They can be

4316
02:45:39,479 --> 02:45:40,379
they can place our team

4317
02:45:40,379 --> 02:45:43,250
members in a position that is

4318
02:45:43,250 --> 02:45:45,118
uncomfortable in many ways and

4319
02:45:45,118 --> 02:45:45,785
we want to make sure that

4320
02:45:45,785 --> 02:45:47,253
training provides them the

4321
02:45:47,253 --> 02:45:47,954
tools they need and the

4322
02:45:47,954 --> 02:45:50,656
information they they need in

4323
02:45:50,656 --> 02:45:53,226
order to be successful in

4324
02:45:53,226 --> 02:45:55,226
handling those interactions

4325
02:45:55,895 --> 02:46:00,950
and best fit the city of Santa

4326
02:46:00,434 --> 02:46:01,500
Rosa's request for them. That

4327
02:46:01,500 --> 02:46:02,669
that that training will

4328
02:46:02,669 --> 02:46:05,605
include things as what a

4329
02:46:05,605 --> 02:46:07,474
public nonpublic space are. It

4330
02:46:07,474 --> 02:46:09,542
will talk about what a

4331
02:46:09,542 --> 02:46:10,677
judicial and administrative

4332
02:46:10,677 --> 02:46:11,377
warrant is and will give team

4333
02:46:11,377 --> 02:46:12,312
members the tools to be able

4334
02:46:12,312 --> 02:46:15,150
to start to identify. And then

4335
02:46:15,150 --> 02:46:16,917
once they Dana, 5 determine

4336
02:46:16,917 --> 02:46:18,285
which path they need to take

4337
02:46:18,285 --> 02:46:19,986
next. It will talk about how

4338
02:46:19,986 --> 02:46:22,386
public Records act requests

4339
02:46:22,756 --> 02:46:23,890
are handled and how request on

4340
02:46:23,890 --> 02:46:26,659
the spot are also taking into

4341
02:46:26,659 --> 02:46:28,629
consideration and dealt with.

4342
02:46:28,629 --> 02:46:29,862
We'll talk about what consent

4343
02:46:29,862 --> 02:46:30,564
means. What does it mean to

4344
02:46:30,564 --> 02:46:32,899
consent to an action or not

4345
02:46:32,899 --> 02:46:35,200
consent to an action? And it

4346
02:46:35,200 --> 02:46:37,402
MAY include some scenario

4347
02:46:37,771 --> 02:46:39,606
based training as well,

4348
02:46:39,606 --> 02:46:40,140
depending upon the staff and

4349
02:46:40,140 --> 02:46:40,740
the and the type of

4350
02:46:40,740 --> 02:46:42,740
interaction those staff

4351
02:46:43,610 --> 02:46:44,977
members MAY have. We did want

4352
02:46:44,977 --> 02:46:46,790
to incorporate the flexibility

4353
02:46:46,790 --> 02:46:47,748
to be able to provide more

4354
02:46:47,748 --> 02:46:50,500
intense training for certain

4355
02:46:50,500 --> 02:46:50,717
staff members versus others

4356
02:46:50,717 --> 02:46:51,417
because of the duties that

4357
02:46:51,417 --> 02:46:55,170
they MAY have on a day-to-day

4358
02:46:58,525 --> 02:47:00,527
basis. To give just a quick

4359
02:47:00,527 --> 02:47:01,195
example of some of the

4360
02:47:01,195 --> 02:47:02,610
statements that were trying

4361
02:47:02,610 --> 02:47:04,431
that we're looking to make

4362
02:47:04,431 --> 02:47:05,165
better part of the attorney

4363
02:47:05,165 --> 02:47:08,402
general's guidance. If in U.S.

4364
02:47:08,402 --> 02:47:10,402
Immigration Authority makes

4365
02:47:11,405 --> 02:47:12,105
contact, we will request

4366
02:47:12,105 --> 02:47:14,441
information about what it is

4367
02:47:14,441 --> 02:47:15,976
they're looking for what

4368
02:47:15,976 --> 02:47:16,643
records. I will try to

4369
02:47:16,643 --> 02:47:19,430
understand that concept of

4370
02:47:21,480 --> 02:47:21,682
what they're trying to achieve

4371
02:47:21,682 --> 02:47:23,617
our employees will remain

4372
02:47:23,617 --> 02:47:24,852
calm. They'll remain

4373
02:47:24,852 --> 02:47:25,486
professional. They will not

4374
02:47:25,486 --> 02:47:27,886
aggravate. They will not

4375
02:47:29,856 --> 02:47:31,358
interfere. Once we understand

4376
02:47:31,358 --> 02:47:33,160
the nature of the records, it

4377
02:47:33,160 --> 02:47:35,261
will be processed through the

4378
02:47:35,261 --> 02:47:37,261
appropriate senior manager,

4379
02:47:38,320 --> 02:47:38,665
which is either myself or the

4380
02:47:38,665 --> 02:47:39,366
city attorney and a

4381
02:47:39,366 --> 02:47:42,269
determination will be made as

4382
02:47:42,269 --> 02:47:42,870
to whether or not the

4383
02:47:42,870 --> 02:47:43,604
materials that they've

4384
02:47:43,604 --> 02:47:46,604
requested can be processed and

4385
02:47:47,608 --> 02:47:48,509
provided to them. Response on

4386
02:47:48,509 --> 02:47:50,577
that documentation will be

4387
02:47:50,577 --> 02:47:51,545
consistent with our political

4388
02:47:51,545 --> 02:47:52,613
laws as well as the policy

4389
02:47:52,613 --> 02:47:54,615
that we've outlined. And as I

4390
02:47:54,615 --> 02:47:56,500
mentioned, there's specific

4391
02:47:56,500 --> 02:47:57,751
programs and and methodologies

4392
02:47:57,751 --> 02:47:58,452
with which certain

4393
02:47:58,452 --> 02:48:01,452
documentation MAY or MAY not

4394
02:48:02,957 --> 02:48:04,558
be provided. And going through

4395
02:48:04,558 --> 02:48:05,993
all of this is where that

4396
02:48:05,993 --> 02:48:06,727
training is going to comment.

4397
02:48:06,727 --> 02:48:07,428
It's going to assist our staff

4398
02:48:07,428 --> 02:48:09,828
members to clearly understand

4399
02:48:11,866 --> 02:48:14,100
at what point do each of these

4400
02:48:14,100 --> 02:48:14,702
aspects of interactions need

4401
02:48:14,702 --> 02:48:17,304
to be handled through myself

4402
02:48:17,304 --> 02:48:18,739
through the city attorney or

4403
02:48:18,739 --> 02:48:19,440
through the police department.

4404
02:48:19,440 --> 02:48:20,140
Should the police department

4405
02:48:20,140 --> 02:48:23,140
need to be incorporated into

4406
02:48:27,882 --> 02:48:28,916
this? Wraps that primary

4407
02:48:28,916 --> 02:48:30,317
aspects of the policy. And I

4408
02:48:30,317 --> 02:48:31,352
want to head over to City

4409
02:48:31,352 --> 02:48:34,155
Attorney Crocker to talk about

4410
02:48:34,155 --> 02:48:36,555
the ordinance Amendment. Thank

4411
02:48:37,825 --> 02:48:38,526
you. City manager.

4412
02:48:38,526 --> 02:48:41,428
>> Good evening. I am pleased

4413
02:48:41,428 --> 02:48:42,662
to bring this ordinance to

4414
02:48:42,662 --> 02:48:43,897
tonight. I'll just start the

4415
02:48:43,897 --> 02:48:45,800
bit of history. In APRIL of

4416
02:48:45,800 --> 02:48:46,601
this year, the council adopted

4417
02:48:46,601 --> 02:48:49,100
an ordinance adding Chapter

4418
02:48:49,770 --> 02:48:50,371
13. 42 the city code that

4419
02:48:50,371 --> 02:48:52,607
chapter says it's city

4420
02:48:52,607 --> 02:48:54,609
property MAY be used only for

4421
02:48:54,609 --> 02:48:56,477
city purposes in plain terms.

4422
02:48:56,477 --> 02:48:57,444
City property is for city

4423
02:48:57,444 --> 02:48:58,145
business and helping with

4424
02:48:58,145 --> 02:49:00,145
civil immigration enforcement

4425
02:49:01,682 --> 02:49:02,450
is not city business. Although

4426
02:49:02,450 --> 02:49:05,450
that that ordinance was. And

4427
02:49:06,187 --> 02:49:06,854
it is a very strong ordinance.

4428
02:49:06,854 --> 02:49:07,555
The council, the community

4429
02:49:07,555 --> 02:49:09,791
expressed concern that it MAY

4430
02:49:09,791 --> 02:49:11,192
not go far enough. Although

4431
02:49:11,192 --> 02:49:12,259
the ordinance would prohibit

4432
02:49:12,259 --> 02:49:13,940
immigration authorities from

4433
02:49:13,940 --> 02:49:15,229
using city property to stage

4434
02:49:15,229 --> 02:49:17,980
civil enforcement actions.

4435
02:49:17,980 --> 02:49:19,534
There were concerns that it

4436
02:49:19,534 --> 02:49:21,135
fell short by phone by failing

4437
02:49:21,135 --> 02:49:21,902
to directly restrict city

4438
02:49:21,902 --> 02:49:22,537
staff from collaborating and

4439
02:49:22,537 --> 02:49:24,537
sharing information with

4440
02:49:26,708 --> 02:49:27,375
immigration officials. In

4441
02:49:27,375 --> 02:49:29,775
addition, although the city

4442
02:49:29,877 --> 02:49:30,545
has several additional

4443
02:49:30,545 --> 02:49:31,679
protections in place, they

4444
02:49:31,679 --> 02:49:33,548
come in various locations.

4445
02:49:33,548 --> 02:49:35,683
They come from a state law in

4446
02:49:35,683 --> 02:49:37,785
sb. 54. They come from a 2017

4447
02:49:37,785 --> 02:49:40,785
and a visible city resolution

4448
02:49:41,289 --> 02:49:41,923
and a local police policy.

4449
02:49:41,923 --> 02:49:43,458
Each of these applies to

4450
02:49:43,458 --> 02:49:45,458
different people different

4451
02:49:45,827 --> 02:49:47,428
situations. The cities and a

4452
02:49:47,428 --> 02:49:48,662
visible city resolution

4453
02:49:48,662 --> 02:49:49,530
prohibits city employees from

4454
02:49:49,530 --> 02:49:50,765
enforcing civil immigration

4455
02:49:50,765 --> 02:49:53,340
laws or using city resources

4456
02:49:53,340 --> 02:49:53,935
to investigate or apprehend

4457
02:49:53,935 --> 02:49:56,935
people based upon a possible

4458
02:49:57,705 --> 02:49:58,739
violation of immigration law.

4459
02:49:58,739 --> 02:49:59,507
But that resolution does not

4460
02:49:59,507 --> 02:50:00,108
directly address

4461
02:50:00,108 --> 02:50:00,842
information-sharing and

4462
02:50:00,842 --> 02:50:02,842
collaboration with immigration

4463
02:50:05,313 --> 02:50:06,140
officials. Senate Bill 54

4464
02:50:06,140 --> 02:50:08,414
Santa Rosa Police Department

4465
02:50:09,250 --> 02:50:10,417
policy for 20 generally

4466
02:50:10,417 --> 02:50:12,219
prohibits law enforcement from

4467
02:50:12,219 --> 02:50:13,421
cooperating with ice except in

4468
02:50:13,421 --> 02:50:15,323
limited circumstances. But

4469
02:50:15,323 --> 02:50:16,391
those laws and policies do not

4470
02:50:16,391 --> 02:50:17,124
prohibit any other city

4471
02:50:17,124 --> 02:50:20,124
officials from engaging in the

4472
02:50:20,929 --> 02:50:21,529
same behavior. In other words,

4473
02:50:21,529 --> 02:50:23,664
I believe the council

4474
02:50:23,664 --> 02:50:25,733
identified a gap in our

4475
02:50:25,733 --> 02:50:26,500
regulations and the proposed

4476
02:50:26,500 --> 02:50:27,235
on collaboration ordinance. We

4477
02:50:27,235 --> 02:50:30,235
bring you tonight. Closes that

4478
02:50:31,706 --> 02:50:33,441
gap. This ordinance that we're

4479
02:50:33,441 --> 02:50:34,442
bringing you essentially

4480
02:50:34,442 --> 02:50:35,777
extends a framework of sb 54

4481
02:50:35,777 --> 02:50:37,978
to city property generally not

4482
02:50:37,978 --> 02:50:39,681
just law enforcement

4483
02:50:39,681 --> 02:50:40,415
facilities and it applies to

4484
02:50:40,415 --> 02:50:42,216
all city officials, employees,

4485
02:50:42,216 --> 02:50:44,616
boards and commissions, not

4486
02:50:45,387 --> 02:50:46,788
just law enforcement agencies.

4487
02:50:46,788 --> 02:50:49,424
It also broadens the scope of

4488
02:50:49,424 --> 02:50:50,125
the city's and a visible city

4489
02:50:50,125 --> 02:50:52,226
resolution by prohibiting the

4490
02:50:52,226 --> 02:50:53,600
use of city property to share

4491
02:50:53,600 --> 02:50:53,795
information are collaborate

4492
02:50:53,795 --> 02:50:56,195
with immigration officials for

4493
02:50:56,864 --> 02:50:58,833
immigration enforcement. In

4494
02:50:58,833 --> 02:50:59,768
short, the proposed on

4495
02:50:59,768 --> 02:51:00,935
collaboration ordinance

4496
02:51:00,935 --> 02:51:02,805
produces a single document

4497
02:51:02,805 --> 02:51:03,839
that governs all city staff

4498
02:51:03,839 --> 02:51:05,607
under a single rule of law

4499
02:51:05,607 --> 02:51:07,509
regulating the use of city

4500
02:51:07,509 --> 02:51:09,770
property, including non caught

4501
02:51:09,770 --> 02:51:09,844
collaboration with immigration

4502
02:51:09,844 --> 02:51:13,444
officials. It puts it all in

4503
02:51:13,482 --> 02:51:17,820
one place. The text in the

4504
02:51:17,218 --> 02:51:17,853
ordinance is straightforward.

4505
02:51:17,853 --> 02:51:19,287
It says no city official

4506
02:51:19,287 --> 02:51:20,889
employee board or department

4507
02:51:20,889 --> 02:51:21,656
MAY use city property to

4508
02:51:21,656 --> 02:51:23,656
collaborate collaborate with

4509
02:51:23,825 --> 02:51:25,694
federal civil immigration

4510
02:51:25,694 --> 02:51:26,561
Enforcement City. Property

4511
02:51:26,561 --> 02:51:28,961
includes real property and

4512
02:51:29,131 --> 02:51:29,764
personal property, meaning

4513
02:51:29,764 --> 02:51:31,764
buildings, land vehicles,

4514
02:51:33,501 --> 02:51:35,370
computers and other equipment.

4515
02:51:35,370 --> 02:51:35,971
Collaborating means any city

4516
02:51:35,971 --> 02:51:37,971
employee contacting are

4517
02:51:38,540 --> 02:51:39,474
responding to immigration.

4518
02:51:39,474 --> 02:51:40,208
Authorities are sharing or

4519
02:51:40,208 --> 02:51:41,430
confirming information for the

4520
02:51:41,430 --> 02:51:41,776
purpose of immigration

4521
02:51:41,776 --> 02:51:44,176
enforcement except as required

4522
02:51:45,347 --> 02:51:46,140
or permitted by law. As an

4523
02:51:46,140 --> 02:51:47,649
example of employee were to

4524
02:51:47,649 --> 02:51:48,650
use their city office in

4525
02:51:48,650 --> 02:51:50,285
computer to look up

4526
02:51:50,285 --> 02:51:50,986
information about co-workers

4527
02:51:50,986 --> 02:51:52,820
and share it with immigration

4528
02:51:52,820 --> 02:51:54,323
authorities for enforcement

4529
02:51:54,323 --> 02:51:55,257
purposes that employee would

4530
02:51:55,257 --> 02:51:56,858
be using city property to

4531
02:51:56,858 --> 02:51:57,592
collaborate with immigration

4532
02:51:57,592 --> 02:51:59,992
enforcement with the ordinance

4533
02:52:01,462 --> 02:52:02,664
prohibits. The city attorney's

4534
02:52:02,664 --> 02:52:04,866
office believes this ordinance

4535
02:52:04,866 --> 02:52:06,340
offers very strong protection

4536
02:52:06,340 --> 02:52:06,802
to the community while also

4537
02:52:06,802 --> 02:52:08,802
remaining legally defensible

4538
02:52:08,871 --> 02:52:09,938
under both state and federal

4539
02:52:09,938 --> 02:52:14,760
law. It goes as far as we can

4540
02:52:14,760 --> 02:52:14,742
go as a city. I also want to

4541
02:52:14,742 --> 02:52:17,142
address what the ordinance

4542
02:52:17,846 --> 02:52:18,914
does not do. The ordinance

4543
02:52:18,914 --> 02:52:19,715
does not require city

4544
02:52:19,715 --> 02:52:20,415
employees to prevent federal

4545
02:52:20,415 --> 02:52:22,815
agents from entering public

4546
02:52:23,285 --> 02:52:25,654
spaces on city property. It

4547
02:52:25,654 --> 02:52:26,555
does not require employees to

4548
02:52:26,555 --> 02:52:28,357
ignore a judge's order or

4549
02:52:28,357 --> 02:52:30,358
valid warrant or hold back

4550
02:52:30,358 --> 02:52:32,427
information that the law

4551
02:52:32,427 --> 02:52:33,228
requires. And it does not

4552
02:52:33,228 --> 02:52:34,396
require employees to put

4553
02:52:34,396 --> 02:52:35,630
themselves in harm's way or

4554
02:52:35,630 --> 02:52:37,463
interfere with the federal

4555
02:52:37,599 --> 02:52:38,534
immigration action. Going

4556
02:52:38,534 --> 02:52:40,469
past. Those lines would not

4557
02:52:40,469 --> 02:52:42,270
protect the community. More.

4558
02:52:42,270 --> 02:52:42,938
It would put the protections

4559
02:52:42,938 --> 02:52:46,274
that we do have at risk of

4560
02:52:46,274 --> 02:52:48,177
being struck down. Earlier

4561
02:52:48,177 --> 02:52:49,110
this year. The council asked

4562
02:52:49,110 --> 02:52:52,140
staff to go further to protect

4563
02:52:52,140 --> 02:52:53,181
our community members. We

4564
02:52:53,181 --> 02:52:54,717
believe this is how far we can

4565
02:52:54,717 --> 02:52:55,684
go without crossing the line

4566
02:52:55,684 --> 02:52:58,684
and asking our employees to

4567
02:52:58,687 --> 02:52:59,621
violate state or federal law.

4568
02:52:59,621 --> 02:53:00,589
I'm now going to hand this

4569
02:53:00,589 --> 02:53:01,823
over to Assistant City

4570
02:53:01,823 --> 02:53:04,823
Attorney Hepler to discuss the

4571
02:53:05,393 --> 02:53:06,361
various enforcement mechanisms

4572
02:53:06,361 --> 02:53:06,995
which will further demonstrate

4573
02:53:06,995 --> 02:53:07,963
the strength of both the

4574
02:53:07,963 --> 02:53:10,299
proposed ordinance and the

4575
02:53:10,299 --> 02:53:12,699
council policy. Thank you.

4576
02:53:14,170 --> 02:53:15,237
Thank you. City attorney

4577
02:53:15,237 --> 02:53:17,172
clearly in order to be

4578
02:53:17,172 --> 02:53:17,873
effective, we need a council

4579
02:53:17,873 --> 02:53:19,909
policy and an ordinance that

4580
02:53:19,909 --> 02:53:21,443
are also in forcible.

4581
02:53:21,443 --> 02:53:23,879
>> I believe it's important to

4582
02:53:23,879 --> 02:53:24,680
note that all current city

4583
02:53:24,680 --> 02:53:26,549
employees are subject to the

4584
02:53:26,549 --> 02:53:28,217
city's personnel rules and

4585
02:53:28,217 --> 02:53:28,918
regulations in violation of

4586
02:53:28,918 --> 02:53:31,887
the rules and regulations can

4587
02:53:31,887 --> 02:53:33,122
result discipline. And I'd

4588
02:53:33,122 --> 02:53:34,656
like to talk for a moment

4589
02:53:34,656 --> 02:53:35,357
about what that means because

4590
02:53:35,357 --> 02:53:37,250
discipline is a very generic

4591
02:53:37,250 --> 02:53:39,228
term and it can mean different

4592
02:53:39,228 --> 02:53:41,630
things. You can have minor

4593
02:53:41,630 --> 02:53:42,565
discipline for mistakes and

4594
02:53:42,565 --> 02:53:43,933
maybe situations and which

4595
02:53:43,933 --> 02:53:44,767
training needed to be

4596
02:53:44,767 --> 02:53:46,268
addressed, where you can have

4597
02:53:46,268 --> 02:53:48,668
very severe discipline. And

4598
02:53:51,206 --> 02:53:52,441
here at the city egregious

4599
02:53:52,441 --> 02:53:54,210
behavior that violates the

4600
02:53:54,210 --> 02:53:55,177
city rules and regulations can

4601
02:53:55,177 --> 02:53:57,577
result in severe discipline,

4602
02:53:59,315 --> 02:54:01,315
including demotion, which

4603
02:54:01,350 --> 02:54:02,318
results in the loss of some

4604
02:54:02,318 --> 02:54:03,586
pay usually or even

4605
02:54:03,586 --> 02:54:05,554
termination, which results in

4606
02:54:05,554 --> 02:54:08,157
loss of pay. The loss of

4607
02:54:08,157 --> 02:54:09,580
benefits and potentially ones

4608
02:54:09,580 --> 02:54:12,580
pension. Those are very severe

4609
02:54:12,194 --> 02:54:14,297
consequences. With that in

4610
02:54:14,297 --> 02:54:16,232
mind. Turning to the council

4611
02:54:16,232 --> 02:54:17,467
policy, there are a couple of

4612
02:54:17,467 --> 02:54:18,167
sections there that could

4613
02:54:18,167 --> 02:54:18,868
trigger discipline under the

4614
02:54:18,868 --> 02:54:21,268
city's rules and regulations

4615
02:54:22,104 --> 02:54:22,839
for personnel. Requests for

4616
02:54:22,839 --> 02:54:25,400
information records or data is

4617
02:54:25,400 --> 02:54:27,430
one of them. And that's

4618
02:54:27,430 --> 02:54:28,878
because that section is very

4619
02:54:28,878 --> 02:54:30,646
clear. That disclosure of

4620
02:54:30,646 --> 02:54:31,347
information shall be limited

4621
02:54:31,347 --> 02:54:33,347
to information specifically

4622
02:54:35,151 --> 02:54:36,285
required by law. The other

4623
02:54:36,285 --> 02:54:36,953
section that could potentially

4624
02:54:36,953 --> 02:54:39,353
trigger discipline is data

4625
02:54:40,156 --> 02:54:40,790
collection and retention. So

4626
02:54:40,790 --> 02:54:43,190
what violations of those

4627
02:54:44,259 --> 02:54:46,996
sections look like by way of

4628
02:54:46,996 --> 02:54:47,697
an example, you could have

4629
02:54:47,697 --> 02:54:48,464
employees working the counter

4630
02:54:48,464 --> 02:54:49,164
in the lobby. Immigration

4631
02:54:49,164 --> 02:54:51,564
enforcement officials show up

4632
02:54:51,667 --> 02:54:53,403
with a warrant in hand and

4633
02:54:53,403 --> 02:54:55,304
initially that employee does

4634
02:54:55,304 --> 02:54:56,873
everything right. They contact

4635
02:54:56,873 --> 02:54:58,908
their manager. The city

4636
02:54:58,908 --> 02:55:00,776
managers contact the city

4637
02:55:00,776 --> 02:55:01,477
attorneys contacted and upon

4638
02:55:01,477 --> 02:55:03,345
legal review. It's determined

4639
02:55:03,345 --> 02:55:03,979
that this is a valid judicial

4640
02:55:03,979 --> 02:55:06,379
warrant and compliance is

4641
02:55:07,417 --> 02:55:08,217
required. Employee MAY provide

4642
02:55:08,217 --> 02:55:10,617
the documentation listed in

4643
02:55:10,720 --> 02:55:11,988
the Valley Judicial warrant,

4644
02:55:11,988 --> 02:55:12,788
but then they could take it

4645
02:55:12,788 --> 02:55:13,489
upon themselves to provide

4646
02:55:13,489 --> 02:55:15,358
additional information that

4647
02:55:15,358 --> 02:55:16,425
was not request under the

4648
02:55:16,425 --> 02:55:17,600
warrant. That would be a

4649
02:55:17,600 --> 02:55:19,460
violation of the council

4650
02:55:21,331 --> 02:55:22,865
policy. Likewise, if employee

4651
02:55:22,865 --> 02:55:23,533
was retaining information are

4652
02:55:23,533 --> 02:55:24,200
collecting information that

4653
02:55:24,200 --> 02:55:27,103
they are not authorized to

4654
02:55:27,103 --> 02:55:27,804
collect or retain. And that

4655
02:55:27,804 --> 02:55:29,338
information was subsequently

4656
02:55:29,338 --> 02:55:30,106
provided to immigration

4657
02:55:30,106 --> 02:55:30,773
enforcement authorities. That

4658
02:55:30,773 --> 02:55:34,373
would be a violation of the

4659
02:55:34,978 --> 02:55:35,578
policy. A critical tool that

4660
02:55:35,578 --> 02:55:38,578
the city has when using

4661
02:55:41,918 --> 02:55:43,520
discipline. To manage this

4662
02:55:43,520 --> 02:55:46,520
council policy and impact what

4663
02:55:48,558 --> 02:55:49,191
employees are doing it to her.

4664
02:55:49,191 --> 02:55:51,394
Violations and to enforce

4665
02:55:51,394 --> 02:55:52,529
against violations is the

4666
02:55:52,529 --> 02:55:54,164
ability to immediately put an

4667
02:55:54,164 --> 02:55:56,990
employee out and what that

4668
02:55:56,990 --> 02:55:58,334
means is the city has the

4669
02:55:58,334 --> 02:55:59,536
right to tell an employee that

4670
02:55:59,536 --> 02:56:00,236
they are no longer welcome on

4671
02:56:00,236 --> 02:56:02,636
campus wide. The disciplinary

4672
02:56:03,139 --> 02:56:03,773
process plays out and until

4673
02:56:03,773 --> 02:56:05,408
there is a charmer and a

4674
02:56:05,408 --> 02:56:07,543
determination as to whether

4675
02:56:07,543 --> 02:56:08,344
the conduct and in fact occur

4676
02:56:08,344 --> 02:56:10,744
and discipline is determined.

4677
02:56:11,915 --> 02:56:12,615
What is appropriate. That is

4678
02:56:12,615 --> 02:56:14,284
an immediate action that the

4679
02:56:14,284 --> 02:56:15,285
city can take to protect

4680
02:56:15,285 --> 02:56:17,685
community members from further

4681
02:56:18,788 --> 02:56:19,455
violations of the policy. And

4682
02:56:19,455 --> 02:56:21,423
it is an incredibly strong

4683
02:56:21,423 --> 02:56:25,230
tool to have in our toolbox.

4684
02:56:26,363 --> 02:56:28,198
With respect to the ordinance.

4685
02:56:28,198 --> 02:56:29,465
Ordinance allows for

4686
02:56:29,465 --> 02:56:31,868
enforcement by way of civil

4687
02:56:31,868 --> 02:56:32,569
relief. Previously that was

4688
02:56:32,569 --> 02:56:35,569
really geared towards the use

4689
02:56:36,206 --> 02:56:38,975
of real property non employees

4690
02:56:38,975 --> 02:56:39,576
would be prevented from

4691
02:56:39,576 --> 02:56:40,510
continuing to use city

4692
02:56:40,510 --> 02:56:42,345
property for non city purposes

4693
02:56:42,345 --> 02:56:43,313
such as immigration

4694
02:56:43,313 --> 02:56:45,248
enforcement and what that

4695
02:56:45,248 --> 02:56:45,981
looks like in seeking civil

4696
02:56:45,981 --> 02:56:48,352
relief in court and requesting

4697
02:56:48,352 --> 02:56:50,752
an injunction. That ordinance

4698
02:56:50,787 --> 02:56:51,488
also applies to employees. So

4699
02:56:51,488 --> 02:56:53,888
looking at that previous

4700
02:56:55,459 --> 02:56:56,250
example that I gave you you

4701
02:56:56,250 --> 02:56:58,425
have an employee who

4702
02:56:59,229 --> 02:56:59,930
potentially? Provides

4703
02:56:59,930 --> 02:57:01,365
information that they weren't

4704
02:57:01,365 --> 02:57:03,765
authorized to provide. That's

4705
02:57:04,768 --> 02:57:05,602
a violation of policy. But the

4706
02:57:05,602 --> 02:57:06,637
tools in which they used to

4707
02:57:06,637 --> 02:57:08,705
provide the information, the

4708
02:57:08,705 --> 02:57:10,607
office equipment, their

4709
02:57:10,607 --> 02:57:11,308
computer, the records that

4710
02:57:11,308 --> 02:57:13,477
they had access to. That's a

4711
02:57:13,477 --> 02:57:14,811
violation of the ordinance in

4712
02:57:14,811 --> 02:57:15,479
the ordinance. And the policy

4713
02:57:15,479 --> 02:57:17,614
are not mutually exclusive.

4714
02:57:17,614 --> 02:57:19,683
It's not one or the other. You

4715
02:57:19,683 --> 02:57:22,830
could have enforcement using

4716
02:57:23,453 --> 02:57:24,721
bowl. And so the city has the

4717
02:57:24,721 --> 02:57:25,856
tool of potentially if

4718
02:57:25,856 --> 02:57:26,556
violation of the policy is

4719
02:57:26,556 --> 02:57:27,924
egregious enough that it

4720
02:57:27,924 --> 02:57:30,160
warrants putting an employee

4721
02:57:30,160 --> 02:57:32,129
out immediately to protect the

4722
02:57:32,129 --> 02:57:33,300
community, they can do that.

4723
02:57:33,300 --> 02:57:34,640
While the city attorney is

4724
02:57:34,640 --> 02:57:36,200
also looking at options for

4725
02:57:36,200 --> 02:57:37,434
civil enforcement, if that's

4726
02:57:37,434 --> 02:57:39,603
appropriate. So those remedies

4727
02:57:39,603 --> 02:57:42,300
together under the personnel

4728
02:57:43,306 --> 02:57:44,474
rules and regulations and

4729
02:57:44,474 --> 02:57:45,342
civil relief in a court of law

4730
02:57:45,342 --> 02:57:46,577
allowed the city to Taylor

4731
02:57:46,577 --> 02:57:47,611
enforcement of the Council

4732
02:57:47,611 --> 02:57:48,278
policy and the ordinance to

4733
02:57:48,278 --> 02:57:51,878
best meet the needs of the

4734
02:57:56,286 --> 02:57:59,222
city and the community. We've

4735
02:57:59,222 --> 02:58:00,190
been hearing for several weeks

4736
02:58:00,190 --> 02:58:02,225
to months from community

4737
02:58:02,225 --> 02:58:02,960
members that are in the room

4738
02:58:02,960 --> 02:58:03,694
community is that have been in

4739
02:58:03,694 --> 02:58:06,230
the room that there's a number

4740
02:58:06,230 --> 02:58:07,197
of items that there have been

4741
02:58:07,197 --> 02:58:09,650
requesting.

4742
02:58:09,650 --> 02:58:09,767
>> That staff to incorporate

4743
02:58:09,767 --> 02:58:13,367
into I the resolution or into

4744
02:58:14,400 --> 02:58:15,390
ordinance. This is sort we

4745
02:58:15,390 --> 02:58:16,540
just want to show a checklist

4746
02:58:16,540 --> 02:58:17,207
of what we've been attempting

4747
02:58:17,207 --> 02:58:20,100
to do to try to accommodate

4748
02:58:20,100 --> 02:58:20,945
those requests and and I will

4749
02:58:20,945 --> 02:58:23,514
just say that in the meetings

4750
02:58:23,514 --> 02:58:24,380
that I've had with the

4751
02:58:24,380 --> 02:58:25,490
community members over the

4752
02:58:25,490 --> 02:58:27,818
last couple of weeks, there

4753
02:58:27,818 --> 02:58:30,621
was one particular ah, ha

4754
02:58:30,621 --> 02:58:32,389
moment that gave the city

4755
02:58:32,389 --> 02:58:34,389
attorney's office more

4756
02:58:35,492 --> 02:58:36,427
information to be able to

4757
02:58:36,427 --> 02:58:39,129
present and identify an area

4758
02:58:39,129 --> 02:58:40,798
that we could expedite the

4759
02:58:40,798 --> 02:58:43,660
ordinance. That's before you

4760
02:58:43,660 --> 02:58:44,401
today. If you recall couple of

4761
02:58:44,401 --> 02:58:45,690
weeks ago, we talked about

4762
02:58:45,690 --> 02:58:48,690
this maybe needing to come

4763
02:58:48,272 --> 02:58:49,506
back at a later date, work

4764
02:58:49,506 --> 02:58:51,906
that the city attorney's

4765
02:58:52,209 --> 02:58:53,100
office has done in the last 2

4766
02:58:53,100 --> 02:58:54,979
weeks is as significant. It's

4767
02:58:54,979 --> 02:58:56,213
impressive and I'm very

4768
02:58:56,213 --> 02:58:58,949
thankful that they were able

4769
02:58:58,949 --> 02:59:00,151
to take the feedback that we

4770
02:59:00,151 --> 02:59:01,685
heard from the community and

4771
02:59:01,685 --> 02:59:02,986
roll it into something that's

4772
02:59:02,986 --> 02:59:03,754
tangible and in front of you

4773
02:59:03,754 --> 02:59:04,421
today that we believe actually

4774
02:59:04,421 --> 02:59:06,821
addresses the concerns that

4775
02:59:10,561 --> 02:59:11,162
have been raised efforts meet

4776
02:59:11,162 --> 02:59:11,795
council. What you're a

4777
02:59:11,795 --> 02:59:12,530
question of us, which is

4778
02:59:12,530 --> 02:59:16,730
figure out how we can get from

4779
02:59:18,202 --> 02:59:19,436
here to their and so with

4780
02:59:19,436 --> 02:59:20,137
that, we are really pleased to

4781
02:59:20,137 --> 02:59:23,737
bring both of these items to

4782
02:59:24,709 --> 02:59:25,409
you for consideration by

4783
02:59:25,409 --> 02:59:27,440
resolution would like you to

4784
02:59:27,440 --> 02:59:27,912
adopt council policy entitled

4785
02:59:27,912 --> 02:59:28,879
policies and procedures

4786
02:59:28,879 --> 02:59:29,946
governing city city

4787
02:59:29,946 --> 02:59:31,282
interactions with immigration

4788
02:59:31,282 --> 02:59:31,982
authorities and access to city

4789
02:59:31,982 --> 02:59:33,982
information consistent with

4790
02:59:35,853 --> 02:59:36,454
federal and state law and to

4791
02:59:36,454 --> 02:59:37,355
introduce an ordinance

4792
02:59:37,355 --> 02:59:39,755
amending chapter 13, 40 of the

4793
02:59:40,570 --> 02:59:40,725
Santa Rosa City code

4794
02:59:40,725 --> 02:59:43,725
prohibiting the use of city

4795
02:59:43,961 --> 02:59:44,695
property to collaborate with

4796
02:59:44,695 --> 02:59:45,696
immigration authorities in the

4797
02:59:45,696 --> 02:59:48,960
enforcement of federal civil

4798
02:59:51,169 --> 02:59:51,869
immigration laws. This item

4799
02:59:51,869 --> 02:59:54,869
has no further fiscal impact

4800
02:59:55,139 --> 02:59:55,740
at this time. So we are here

4801
02:59:55,740 --> 02:59:58,142
for any if you have any

4802
02:59:58,142 --> 02:59:58,843
questions regarding the

4803
02:59:58,843 --> 03:00:01,243
actions were requesting. The

4804
03:00:02,213 --> 03:00:02,880
wonderful alright city

4805
03:00:02,880 --> 03:00:03,581
manager, not City Crocker,

4806
03:00:03,581 --> 03:00:04,282
excuse me, MISS Hepler. Thank

4807
03:00:04,282 --> 03:00:06,383
you for all the work that has

4808
03:00:06,383 --> 03:00:07,518
been a lot of work indeed.

4809
03:00:07,518 --> 03:00:09,587
>> All right. I do. I do hear

4810
03:00:09,587 --> 03:00:10,620
the enthusiasm from the back

4811
03:00:10,620 --> 03:00:11,722
and one of our public comment

4812
03:00:11,722 --> 03:00:12,422
in a moment. But first, we're

4813
03:00:12,422 --> 03:00:13,157
going we're going to bring

4814
03:00:13,157 --> 03:00:15,927
back to to the dance Mrs, kick

4815
03:00:15,927 --> 03:00:17,562
us off.

4816
03:00:17,562 --> 03:00:19,962
>> City Attorney Ashley Yes.

4817
03:00:23,340 --> 03:00:25,902
For everything. We We look up.

4818
03:00:25,902 --> 03:00:28,338
A Poseidon a woman. And pull

4819
03:00:28,338 --> 03:00:31,938
those at the low status. Will

4820
03:00:35,130 --> 03:00:37,649
boost China stays. It. And

4821
03:00:37,649 --> 03:00:41,249
Give you a lot. The scene.

4822
03:00:42,200 --> 03:00:43,254
Give us some time rolls He

4823
03:00:43,254 --> 03:00:44,550
could. He would like to thank

4824
03:00:44,550 --> 03:00:47,550
little Luca Business, a little

4825
03:00:47,625 --> 03:00:48,493
less about something skinny

4826
03:00:48,493 --> 03:00:51,863
respect it's some of the most

4827
03:00:51,863 --> 03:00:52,563
time, because some school

4828
03:00:52,563 --> 03:00:54,799
status you'll still close to

4829
03:00:54,799 --> 03:00:57,799
locals as some schools to

4830
03:00:58,869 --> 03:01:01,740
She's a play To our city

4831
03:01:01,740 --> 03:01:03,541
attorney. Thank you. To my

4832
03:01:03,541 --> 03:01:04,209
community. Look what happened

4833
03:01:04,209 --> 03:01:07,209
stand up. Look what happens

4834
03:01:07,645 --> 03:01:09,280
when are united. When you

4835
03:01:09,280 --> 03:01:09,981
demand change what you do,

4836
03:01:09,981 --> 03:01:12,830
land representation when ban

4837
03:01:12,830 --> 03:01:15,683
to be respected. This is a

4838
03:01:15,887 --> 03:01:18,287
result of coming together.

4839
03:01:19,991 --> 03:01:22,991
Your love, your respected. You

4840
03:01:23,227 --> 03:01:25,627
are protected. We protected.

4841
03:01:25,930 --> 03:01:28,930
Long live justice. Long live

4842
03:01:29,634 --> 03:01:33,234
the city of Santa Rosa. Thank

4843
03:01:36,474 --> 03:01:37,409
you. MISS Been I can't

4844
03:01:37,409 --> 03:01:39,409
Councilmember Alvarez.

4845
03:01:40,111 --> 03:01:43,381
>> But first, first I want to

4846
03:01:43,381 --> 03:01:46,381
really interim city manager at

4847
03:01:47,452 --> 03:01:50,452
not the attorneys Crocker and

4848
03:01:51,756 --> 03:01:53,692
in does it help. Thank know

4849
03:01:53,692 --> 03:01:56,270
I've I didn't want to say Dana

4850
03:01:56,270 --> 03:01:58,764
Cup. That's how I know but i

4851
03:01:58,764 --> 03:02:01,800
want to thank u n all the

4852
03:02:01,800 --> 03:02:02,701
folks that worked on this with

4853
03:02:02,701 --> 03:02:04,903
you all how much we appreciate

4854
03:02:04,903 --> 03:02:07,105
all the work that you've done

4855
03:02:07,105 --> 03:02:07,805
and meeting with the

4856
03:02:07,805 --> 03:02:10,205
community. How important that

4857
03:02:10,541 --> 03:02:12,443
is and listening to them. And

4858
03:02:12,443 --> 03:02:13,178
getting to the point where you

4859
03:02:13,178 --> 03:02:16,178
we understood exactly what was

4860
03:02:20,886 --> 03:02:24,486
needed. And you know, just to

4861
03:02:25,323 --> 03:02:27,125
echo Councilmember Alvarez. We

4862
03:02:27,125 --> 03:02:28,660
wanted you all know that we do

4863
03:02:28,660 --> 03:02:30,361
care that we do want to make a

4864
03:02:30,361 --> 03:02:32,397
difference for you. And we do

4865
03:02:32,397 --> 03:02:34,320
want to protect entire

4866
03:02:34,320 --> 03:02:34,633
community because it's not

4867
03:02:34,633 --> 03:02:36,768
only a faxed immigrant

4868
03:02:36,768 --> 03:02:40,368
community, but all of us. So

4869
03:02:40,738 --> 03:02:43,275
thank you for all the work.

4870
03:02:43,275 --> 03:02:45,611
I'm told you when we first

4871
03:02:45,611 --> 03:02:46,344
discussed this recently that I

4872
03:02:46,344 --> 03:02:49,944
was stunned that we were able

4873
03:02:50,150 --> 03:02:50,749
to do both resolution and the

4874
03:02:50,749 --> 03:02:53,149
amendments to the ordinance.

4875
03:02:54,860 --> 03:02:54,786
Thank you so much because I

4876
03:02:54,786 --> 03:02:55,487
didn't want to drag this out

4877
03:02:55,487 --> 03:02:58,357
any more that we need to. I'm

4878
03:02:58,357 --> 03:02:59,391
sure you didn't either. And

4879
03:02:59,391 --> 03:03:01,793
so, you know, all of my

4880
03:03:01,793 --> 03:03:02,761
gratitude to all of you,

4881
03:03:02,761 --> 03:03:05,761
Anthony m. So there's that

4882
03:03:06,630 --> 03:03:06,765
there that to work so hard and

4883
03:03:06,765 --> 03:03:10,365
you continue to work hard in

4884
03:03:11,403 --> 03:03:12,204
the in like a mini died. Thank

4885
03:03:12,204 --> 03:03:12,771
you, everybody. Thank you.

4886
03:03:12,771 --> 03:03:15,171
MISS Manuel, most Ms

4887
03:03:16,642 --> 03:03:17,776
MacDonald.

4888
03:03:17,776 --> 03:03:18,610
>> Yeah, I I want to just

4889
03:03:18,610 --> 03:03:19,578
commend you on your amount of

4890
03:03:19,578 --> 03:03:20,745
work that you did in such a

4891
03:03:20,745 --> 03:03:21,780
short amount of time. I know

4892
03:03:21,780 --> 03:03:24,780
going back MARCH, we were

4893
03:03:26,852 --> 03:03:27,486
saying around the ordinance

4894
03:03:27,486 --> 03:03:28,186
and the resolution and I

4895
03:03:28,186 --> 03:03:30,586
appreciate you marrying the 2

4896
03:03:32,900 --> 03:03:33,158
things together has suggested

4897
03:03:33,158 --> 03:03:35,160
because I think that that

4898
03:03:35,160 --> 03:03:36,128
really resolve everything we

4899
03:03:36,128 --> 03:03:37,562
have as much teeth as we

4900
03:03:37,562 --> 03:03:38,597
possibly can in and not just

4901
03:03:38,597 --> 03:03:41,660
our ordinance, but in our

4902
03:03:41,660 --> 03:03:43,350
council policy resolution. And

4903
03:03:43,350 --> 03:03:45,871
so I I really appreciate the

4904
03:03:45,871 --> 03:03:46,939
efforts that went into that.

4905
03:03:46,939 --> 03:03:49,775
So congratulations to our city

4906
03:03:49,775 --> 03:03:50,942
attorney and her staff to as

4907
03:03:50,942 --> 03:03:51,677
well as everyone else. I know

4908
03:03:51,677 --> 03:03:54,680
it was more than even the 2 of

4909
03:03:54,680 --> 03:03:56,549
you going back reviewing old

4910
03:03:56,549 --> 03:03:57,683
videos looking to see what

4911
03:03:57,683 --> 03:03:59,585
council direction was so many

4912
03:03:59,585 --> 03:04:00,285
months ago when this item was

4913
03:04:00,285 --> 03:04:02,587
brought forward. Thank you to

4914
03:04:02,587 --> 03:04:03,656
city manager in that for

4915
03:04:03,656 --> 03:04:06,910
making sure that this is a

4916
03:04:06,910 --> 03:04:07,860
priority based on the the

4917
03:04:07,860 --> 03:04:10,860
concern and the community. And

4918
03:04:12,598 --> 03:04:13,265
I want to say thank you to the

4919
03:04:13,265 --> 03:04:15,234
advocates that continue to

4920
03:04:15,234 --> 03:04:18,137
come here. You know, at all of

4921
03:04:18,137 --> 03:04:20,372
our meetings, your voice does

4922
03:04:20,372 --> 03:04:22,408
matter and we listen to you.

4923
03:04:22,408 --> 03:04:23,876
And although we can't interact

4924
03:04:23,876 --> 03:04:24,542
a lot of times, it's very

4925
03:04:24,542 --> 03:04:27,613
difficult for us to not be

4926
03:04:27,613 --> 03:04:28,881
able to respond because of how

4927
03:04:28,881 --> 03:04:30,683
things work. I just I just

4928
03:04:30,683 --> 03:04:34,283
want you to know that every

4929
03:04:34,520 --> 03:04:35,655
time 70 comes to speak to us.

4930
03:04:35,655 --> 03:04:37,560
Your comments, all we take

4931
03:04:37,560 --> 03:04:37,723
them home. Think about them.

4932
03:04:37,723 --> 03:04:39,258
And then we think about how

4933
03:04:39,258 --> 03:04:40,293
can we implement them into our

4934
03:04:40,293 --> 03:04:43,293
city. But I appreciate the

4935
03:04:44,960 --> 03:04:44,764
work that went into how we

4936
03:04:44,764 --> 03:04:45,831
work with our employees to

4937
03:04:45,831 --> 03:04:46,565
make sure that we're doing

4938
03:04:46,565 --> 03:04:49,468
everything we possibly can in

4939
03:04:49,468 --> 03:04:51,437
the city of Santa Rosa. And

4940
03:04:51,437 --> 03:04:52,938
thank you to the sanctuary and

4941
03:04:52,938 --> 03:04:54,941
thank you. You city manager

4942
03:04:54,941 --> 03:04:56,642
not from meeting with them

4943
03:04:56,642 --> 03:04:57,310
personally to make sure that

4944
03:04:57,310 --> 03:04:59,144
we're doing everything that

4945
03:04:59,144 --> 03:05:00,413
the attorney general suggested

4946
03:05:00,413 --> 03:05:01,947
everything that we have been

4947
03:05:01,947 --> 03:05:04,382
legislation. And I like to

4948
03:05:04,382 --> 03:05:05,718
think that the city of Santa

4949
03:05:05,718 --> 03:05:06,686
Rosa and maybe you can confirm

4950
03:05:06,686 --> 03:05:10,286
this for me as city attorney

4951
03:05:10,289 --> 03:05:12,358
that we have the strongest

4952
03:05:12,358 --> 03:05:12,992
policy in place of any

4953
03:05:12,992 --> 03:05:15,392
jurisdiction north of the

4954
03:05:18,130 --> 03:05:19,699
Bridge for immigration. From

4955
03:05:19,699 --> 03:05:20,500
what I've seen in the research

4956
03:05:20,500 --> 03:05:21,801
that we've done. I think that

4957
03:05:21,801 --> 03:05:24,837
we we go the farthest we have

4958
03:05:24,837 --> 03:05:25,538
really taken an extra step. I

4959
03:05:25,538 --> 03:05:27,440
can't say that for certain. I

4960
03:05:27,440 --> 03:05:30,440
haven't reviewed them say it

4961
03:05:30,877 --> 03:05:31,878
for tonight. I'm going to say

4962
03:05:31,878 --> 03:05:32,611
for tonight this feels good.

4963
03:05:32,611 --> 03:05:33,579
Santa a strong and I'm really

4964
03:05:33,579 --> 03:05:34,180
proud of that. And thank you

4965
03:05:34,180 --> 03:05:34,781
so much. All of us are

4966
03:05:34,781 --> 03:05:36,781
standing here together

4967
03:05:37,717 --> 03:05:38,583
tonight. Thank you your

4968
03:05:38,583 --> 03:05:39,285
comments. Councilmember

4969
03:05:39,285 --> 03:05:39,985
Alvarez and I appreciate Even

4970
03:05:39,985 --> 03:05:42,210
though I couldn't understand

4971
03:05:42,210 --> 03:05:44,189
some of it. I was there with

4972
03:05:44,189 --> 03:05:47,189
you in Spirit. Thank you.

4973
03:05:49,195 --> 03:05:50,296
Thank you. MISS Fleming.

4974
03:05:50,296 --> 03:05:50,963
>> Mike hockey, my comments

4975
03:05:50,963 --> 03:05:51,663
brief. Think a lot of what

4976
03:05:51,663 --> 03:05:54,767
needs to be said has already

4977
03:05:54,767 --> 03:05:57,767
been said really well. You

4978
03:05:59,138 --> 03:05:59,839
know, I'm really touched I

4979
03:05:59,839 --> 03:06:03,209
first brought this up at the

4980
03:06:03,209 --> 03:06:03,910
beginning of the year. It was

4981
03:06:03,910 --> 03:06:06,846
clear to me that it was going

4982
03:06:06,846 --> 03:06:08,848
to be a long process. And I'm

4983
03:06:08,848 --> 03:06:10,650
really heartened to feel the

4984
03:06:10,650 --> 03:06:11,383
support from the community

4985
03:06:11,383 --> 03:06:14,186
whose kept the pressure on our

4986
03:06:14,186 --> 03:06:15,210
council and staff. You know,

4987
03:06:15,210 --> 03:06:15,722
I'm personally love the

4988
03:06:15,722 --> 03:06:17,857
hooting and hollering in the

4989
03:06:17,857 --> 03:06:18,591
back. I think that this is if

4990
03:06:18,591 --> 03:06:19,325
there's ever a time to make

4991
03:06:19,325 --> 03:06:22,925
some noise, it's when we stand

4992
03:06:23,162 --> 03:06:25,980
up to fascism. And I think

4993
03:06:25,980 --> 03:06:25,865
order is a little bit, you

4994
03:06:25,865 --> 03:06:26,599
know, unnecessary in these

4995
03:06:26,599 --> 03:06:28,134
moments. But the mayor has his

4996
03:06:28,134 --> 03:06:31,734
own process. And so that's how

4997
03:06:31,738 --> 03:06:32,639
these things go. But but at

4998
03:06:32,639 --> 03:06:34,706
the end of the day, you all

4999
03:06:34,706 --> 03:06:36,542
kept the pressure up and the

5000
03:06:36,542 --> 03:06:39,712
council has come along a far

5001
03:06:39,712 --> 03:06:41,648
away and the staff thanks to

5002
03:06:41,648 --> 03:06:45,248
the leadership of our our new

5003
03:06:45,384 --> 03:06:46,553
city Attorney, Ashley Crocker

5004
03:06:46,553 --> 03:06:49,553
our city manager. Jason not

5005
03:06:49,722 --> 03:06:52,722
has come so far implementing

5006
03:06:53,626 --> 03:06:56,196
such a strong policy that

5007
03:06:56,196 --> 03:06:56,896
affirms our commitment to anti

5008
03:06:56,896 --> 03:06:58,331
fascism and to the people of

5009
03:06:58,331 --> 03:06:59,833
Santa Rosa, let you all know

5010
03:06:59,833 --> 03:07:00,466
that each person here is

5011
03:07:00,466 --> 03:07:02,866
valuable and welcome. And

5012
03:07:05,705 --> 03:07:06,906
we're so glad that you're

5013
03:07:06,906 --> 03:07:07,840
>> Thank you. All right. Now

5014
03:07:07,840 --> 03:07:09,609
we're at one more from one of

5015
03:07:09,609 --> 03:07:10,276
the thing for you, MR. All

5016
03:07:10,276 --> 03:07:12,676
residents, Rogers, I would

5017
03:07:13,313 --> 03:07:14,514
remiss if I don't see them

5018
03:07:14,514 --> 03:07:15,215
here tonight, I definitely

5019
03:07:15,215 --> 03:07:18,215
want to acknowledge Linda and

5020
03:07:18,485 --> 03:07:20,687
Mary as they or a protest with

5021
03:07:20,687 --> 03:07:22,923
the passion as well ladies up

5022
03:07:22,923 --> 03:07:25,358
there who said going do this.

5023
03:07:25,358 --> 03:07:28,261
And when when we met up, I had

5024
03:07:28,261 --> 03:07:29,429
and nobody ate much. Elaine

5025
03:07:29,429 --> 03:07:31,829
Coleman, those storms in

5026
03:07:32,165 --> 03:07:33,433
little sometimes most But

5027
03:07:33,433 --> 03:07:35,168
nonetheless, though, to Marion

5028
03:07:35,168 --> 03:07:37,690
and Linda, I want to thank

5029
03:07:37,690 --> 03:07:37,737
personally for for really

5030
03:07:37,737 --> 03:07:40,137
representing him being that

5031
03:07:40,240 --> 03:07:42,640
strength, strong ally. And

5032
03:07:42,675 --> 03:07:43,377
being a voice to the under

5033
03:07:43,377 --> 03:07:44,311
represented and sometimes the

5034
03:07:44,311 --> 03:07:47,614
voice so I want I wasn't as

5035
03:07:47,614 --> 03:07:49,115
well. Thank you. Ms Rogers.

5036
03:07:49,115 --> 03:07:51,618
>> I just wanted to thank you

5037
03:07:51,618 --> 03:07:52,552
all for being here in

5038
03:07:52,552 --> 03:07:54,952
continuing to Sitting through

5039
03:07:56,456 --> 03:07:59,493
are very long meetings. And I

5040
03:07:59,493 --> 03:08:00,327
realize that we have done this

5041
03:08:00,327 --> 03:08:01,610
step.

5042
03:08:01,610 --> 03:08:02,129
>> But I believe there's still

5043
03:08:02,129 --> 03:08:06,329
so much more that we need to

5044
03:08:07,801 --> 03:08:09,736
do as a community. So I'm

5045
03:08:09,736 --> 03:08:12,706
asking that you continue to

5046
03:08:12,706 --> 03:08:13,506
hold me accountable when

5047
03:08:13,506 --> 03:08:15,342
there's places to show when

5048
03:08:15,342 --> 03:08:17,611
there's things that we need to

5049
03:08:17,611 --> 03:08:18,945
do to support the community,

5050
03:08:18,945 --> 03:08:21,814
to continue to let us know,

5051
03:08:21,814 --> 03:08:22,816
because this is just the stat,

5052
03:08:22,816 --> 03:08:24,451
but it is not. It's not the

5053
03:08:24,451 --> 03:08:25,385
beginning and it's not the

5054
03:08:25,385 --> 03:08:28,188
They're still a lot more fight

5055
03:08:28,188 --> 03:08:30,323
that we have to do. And in

5056
03:08:30,323 --> 03:08:32,125
order to make sure that

5057
03:08:32,125 --> 03:08:32,826
everyone understands and knows

5058
03:08:32,826 --> 03:08:35,362
that they are welcome in that

5059
03:08:35,362 --> 03:08:35,896
they are safe here. So

5060
03:08:35,896 --> 03:08:38,296
continue to hold us

5061
03:08:39,866 --> 03:08:41,670
accountable. Thank you.

5062
03:08:41,670 --> 03:08:42,369
>> Thank you. All right. If

5063
03:08:42,369 --> 03:08:43,170
there is no additional comment

5064
03:08:43,170 --> 03:08:43,837
from from the dais, let's go

5065
03:08:43,837 --> 03:08:46,237
to public comments. They're

5066
03:08:46,373 --> 03:08:49,242
lot of names listed where a

5067
03:08:49,242 --> 03:08:50,430
new one minute for public

5068
03:08:50,430 --> 03:08:51,945
comment. I want to go start

5069
03:08:51,945 --> 03:08:54,480
with, know, and then Dunia and

5070
03:08:54,480 --> 03:08:55,115
then Socorro let's use. But if

5071
03:08:55,115 --> 03:08:56,850
you wish to speak, let's be

5072
03:08:56,850 --> 03:08:57,518
lined up behind both

5073
03:08:57,518 --> 03:09:00,354
microphones so that we can

5074
03:09:00,354 --> 03:09:01,655
move through this quickly.

5075
03:09:01,655 --> 03:09:02,388
Again, we're gonna start with

5076
03:09:02,388 --> 03:09:03,290
Dino then Dunia and Socorro do

5077
03:09:03,290 --> 03:09:05,225
know is that you? Yeah. Kick

5078
03:09:05,225 --> 03:09:07,225
us off.

5079
03:09:08,620 --> 03:09:10,364
>> Good evening, mayor and

5080
03:09:10,364 --> 03:09:10,997
council members, my name scene

5081
03:09:10,997 --> 03:09:11,665
or take political science

5082
03:09:11,665 --> 03:09:13,867
students know must say in a

5083
03:09:13,867 --> 03:09:15,680
rose and resident and I came

5084
03:09:15,680 --> 03:09:16,937
here today to strongly urge

5085
03:09:16,937 --> 03:09:19,937
the council to amend the

5086
03:09:19,940 --> 03:09:20,608
ordinance passed earlier this

5087
03:09:20,608 --> 03:09:21,441
year to strong enforceable

5088
03:09:21,441 --> 03:09:22,176
ordinance explicitly

5089
03:09:22,176 --> 03:09:23,377
prohibiting collaboration with

5090
03:09:23,377 --> 03:09:25,377
federal immigration

5091
03:09:25,545 --> 03:09:28,480
enforcement. But thanks to the

5092
03:09:28,480 --> 03:09:28,782
hard work at the Sonoma County

5093
03:09:28,782 --> 03:09:29,950
Sanctuary Coalition, North Bay

5094
03:09:29,950 --> 03:09:31,510
Chosen Justice and other

5095
03:09:31,510 --> 03:09:31,785
related groups. Their

5096
03:09:31,785 --> 03:09:34,185
conversations with the council

5097
03:09:35,550 --> 03:09:37,580
and city government to me and

5098
03:09:37,580 --> 03:09:38,159
I'm waiting to hear what main

5099
03:09:38,159 --> 03:09:39,193
organizers have to say. But

5100
03:09:39,193 --> 03:09:40,394
this seems like a very robust

5101
03:09:40,394 --> 03:09:42,794
response to the Trump

5102
03:09:43,297 --> 03:09:44,198
administration's attacks on

5103
03:09:44,198 --> 03:09:44,832
immigrant communities. I

5104
03:09:44,832 --> 03:09:47,832
really thank you all for

5105
03:09:48,135 --> 03:09:50,104
putting this together. It

5106
03:09:50,104 --> 03:09:53,207
seems to me the urgency of the

5107
03:09:53,207 --> 03:09:55,420
moment and I'm glad that Santa

5108
03:09:55,420 --> 03:09:55,609
Rosa, you know, can really be

5109
03:09:55,609 --> 03:09:57,609
inspiration to other

5110
03:09:58,679 --> 03:09:59,380
communities around that.

5111
03:09:59,380 --> 03:10:01,582
>> And the county, the state,

5112
03:10:01,582 --> 03:10:02,283
the country that people come

5113
03:10:02,283 --> 03:10:02,984
together. And even if there's

5114
03:10:02,984 --> 03:10:04,652
initial disagreements, things

5115
03:10:04,652 --> 03:10:07,652
can be worked out and

5116
03:10:07,787 --> 03:10:08,923
victories can be had, you

5117
03:10:08,923 --> 03:10:10,758
know, immigrant rights are

5118
03:10:10,758 --> 03:10:11,959
human rights and workers

5119
03:10:11,959 --> 03:10:13,661
rights in solidarity must mean

5120
03:10:13,661 --> 03:10:14,462
more than words and involves

5121
03:10:14,462 --> 03:10:16,862
actions. So thank everyone

5122
03:10:16,931 --> 03:10:17,498
here for acting. Thank you so

5123
03:10:17,498 --> 03:10:18,232
much.

5124
03:10:18,232 --> 03:10:20,134
>> Thank you. And is doing you

5125
03:10:20,134 --> 03:10:22,169
no longer wish speak. Doing

5126
03:10:22,169 --> 03:10:25,769
and you have the floor and

5127
03:10:28,109 --> 03:10:28,843
then it's then it's the coral.

5128
03:10:28,843 --> 03:10:29,443
>> Hello, I'm standing here in

5129
03:10:29,443 --> 03:10:30,344
support of amending the

5130
03:10:30,344 --> 03:10:32,344
ordinance in adopting

5131
03:10:34,215 --> 03:10:34,915
resolution as be 5.80. Please

5132
03:10:34,915 --> 03:10:37,315
prioritize setting an example

5133
03:10:38,419 --> 03:10:39,153
of how all cities can do

5134
03:10:39,153 --> 03:10:41,553
everything possible to legally

5135
03:10:42,924 --> 03:10:43,624
protect immigrant rights. This

5136
03:10:43,624 --> 03:10:46,624
includes getting rid of flock

5137
03:10:46,827 --> 03:10:47,495
cameras. Thank you.

5138
03:10:47,495 --> 03:10:50,495
>> Thank you very much. And

5139
03:10:52,900 --> 03:10:53,568
you know, and then Robert.

5140
03:10:53,568 --> 03:10:55,103
>> And Renee, so said that

5141
03:10:55,103 --> 03:10:57,572
we're going to share this

5142
03:10:57,572 --> 03:10:58,238
time. I just wanted to on

5143
03:10:58,238 --> 03:11:00,575
behalf of the Sonoma County

5144
03:11:00,575 --> 03:11:02,575
Sanctuary Coalition. Same

5145
03:11:04,112 --> 03:11:07,140
which has Cs. Thank you so

5146
03:11:07,140 --> 03:11:07,848
much. Thank you. Thank you so

5147
03:11:07,848 --> 03:11:09,848
much.

5148
03:11:10,180 --> 03:11:11,219
>> Especially to the city

5149
03:11:11,219 --> 03:11:14,220
manager in the city attorney.

5150
03:11:14,220 --> 03:11:15,356
We appreciate you listening to

5151
03:11:15,356 --> 03:11:16,570
us will be back next Tuesday

5152
03:11:16,570 --> 03:11:19,570
to celebrate the vote. Thank

5153
03:11:19,600 --> 03:11:19,694
you.

5154
03:11:19,694 --> 03:11:22,940
>> Thank you. Remains the

5155
03:11:22,396 --> 03:11:23,970
Wilmont and Lena Robert. My

5156
03:11:23,970 --> 03:11:26,970
apologies, Sir, is a Kroger.

5157
03:11:26,801 --> 03:11:27,502
Please go ahead.

5158
03:11:27,502 --> 03:11:28,202
>> Get a lot the best. Yes, a

5159
03:11:28,202 --> 03:11:29,237
number that the combine it as

5160
03:11:29,237 --> 03:11:33,574
a mother leave it as up on his

5161
03:11:33,574 --> 03:11:34,242
hands and somebody it is. But

5162
03:11:34,242 --> 03:11:36,978
I'm listening and put up at

5163
03:11:36,978 --> 03:11:37,645
this is the do fun. One.

5164
03:11:37,645 --> 03:11:41,245
>> One wants a car. We want

5165
03:11:42,650 --> 03:11:45,500
translator. Is that correct?

5166
03:11:47,588 --> 03:11:48,623
>> they're It

5167
03:11:48,623 --> 03:11:50,224
>> One moment when we move the

5168
03:11:50,224 --> 03:11:52,624
translator or interpreter over

5169
03:11:52,727 --> 03:11:53,461
to assist. We know

5170
03:11:53,461 --> 03:11:55,861
>> appears that she brought

5171
03:12:01,668 --> 03:12:02,737
her own percent.

5172
03:12:02,737 --> 03:12:06,337
>> I'm good as has is that

5173
03:12:06,874 --> 03:12:07,575
idea Senate and amount of this

5174
03:12:07,575 --> 03:12:10,575
Egan on about because those 2

5175
03:12:12,280 --> 03:12:12,881
men ultimately more what they

5176
03:12:12,881 --> 03:12:14,482
on most ticket must be

5177
03:12:14,482 --> 03:12:15,149
governor but also limit the

5178
03:12:15,149 --> 03:12:15,817
sickest on of a up with it

5179
03:12:15,817 --> 03:12:16,451
that a guy that put them in

5180
03:12:16,451 --> 03:12:19,220
But it's that much of the

5181
03:12:19,220 --> 03:12:19,954
city. But at most because at

5182
03:12:19,954 --> 03:12:24,154
the that you must put the luck

5183
03:12:26,661 --> 03:12:30,261
and sounds. Man. I speak now.

5184
03:12:30,999 --> 03:12:32,266
Yes, go ahead. I just want to

5185
03:12:32,266 --> 03:12:32,901
say thank you for the victory

5186
03:12:32,901 --> 03:12:34,235
today. I'll be back next

5187
03:12:34,235 --> 03:12:36,235
Tuesday to celebrate.

5188
03:12:38,139 --> 03:12:39,507
>> And this is just 1, 0, so

5189
03:12:39,507 --> 03:12:41,907
many victories thank you

5190
03:12:43,778 --> 03:12:47,978
again, so much. This is a lot

5191
03:12:48,283 --> 03:12:49,785
to our community can see.

5192
03:12:49,785 --> 03:12:52,454
>> And most of them thank We

5193
03:12:52,454 --> 03:12:53,555
could have a very good at

5194
03:12:53,555 --> 03:12:55,323
sleep tonight. Thank Thank

5195
03:12:55,323 --> 03:12:55,990
Thank you both. All right,

5196
03:12:55,990 --> 03:12:58,193
Alina. And then Robert and

5197
03:12:58,193 --> 03:13:00,193
resell die.

5198
03:13:04,465 --> 03:13:05,200
>> Serena here. Gonna pass

5199
03:13:05,200 --> 03:13:08,800
mean. All right. Thank you for

5200
03:13:09,871 --> 03:13:12,700
coming out tonight. Robert.

5201
03:13:12,700 --> 03:13:12,874
Big and the robber, your Thank

5202
03:13:12,874 --> 03:13:15,877
you very much. And thank you

5203
03:13:15,877 --> 03:13:16,578
very much to all of

5204
03:13:16,578 --> 03:13:18,780
>> I will honestly tell you,

5205
03:13:18,780 --> 03:13:21,490
I'm surprised and very

5206
03:13:21,490 --> 03:13:24,649
pleased. I knew you were going

5207
03:13:24,686 --> 03:13:25,386
to do a resolution, which is

5208
03:13:25,386 --> 03:13:27,222
the recommendation to people

5209
03:13:27,222 --> 03:13:30,692
follow the law. I was hoping

5210
03:13:30,692 --> 03:13:31,426
you would do what you've done,

5211
03:13:31,426 --> 03:13:33,395
which is also adopt ordinance,

5212
03:13:33,395 --> 03:13:36,995
which is, in fact, an order.

5213
03:13:37,833 --> 03:13:38,500
And that to me, when you do

5214
03:13:38,500 --> 03:13:39,134
point someone like Stephen

5215
03:13:39,134 --> 03:13:42,104
Miller to be the chief of

5216
03:13:42,104 --> 03:13:43,572
staff of the United States. We

5217
03:13:43,572 --> 03:13:45,374
have to acknowledge that there

5218
03:13:45,374 --> 03:13:48,243
is a lot of war actually still

5219
03:13:48,243 --> 03:13:50,120
going on and there will be for

5220
03:13:50,120 --> 03:13:51,180
2 years. He is the author of

5221
03:13:51,180 --> 03:13:51,914
the project to 2025. His

5222
03:13:51,914 --> 03:13:55,350
intention is to deport as many

5223
03:13:55,350 --> 03:13:56,840
people as possible. So thank

5224
03:13:56,840 --> 03:13:58,420
you for your support we needed

5225
03:13:58,420 --> 03:13:59,787
We look to you for that kind

5226
03:13:59,787 --> 03:14:00,722
of leadership and thank you

5227
03:14:00,722 --> 03:14:04,322
for delivering And we will be

5228
03:14:04,425 --> 03:14:05,227
there as we were with last

5229
03:14:05,227 --> 03:14:07,280
election to remind the

5230
03:14:07,280 --> 03:14:09,331
oligarchs that they don't own

5231
03:14:09,331 --> 03:14:10,665
the country. There's a giant

5232
03:14:10,665 --> 03:14:13,535
group of people who just shrug

5233
03:14:13,535 --> 03:14:14,937
show them off our shoulders

5234
03:14:14,937 --> 03:14:16,405
and we will continue to do

5235
03:14:16,405 --> 03:14:17,773
Thank you very much. Thank

5236
03:14:17,773 --> 03:14:20,173
you. Robert Whittaker Silva,

5237
03:14:20,542 --> 03:14:23,945
Marianne and its Is it Chris

5238
03:14:23,945 --> 03:14:25,945
Silva?

5239
03:14:27,850 --> 03:14:30,719
>> I thought then been nice.

5240
03:14:30,719 --> 03:14:31,320
What would normally ok, you,

5241
03:14:31,320 --> 03:14:32,621
Lauren, can you please

5242
03:14:32,621 --> 03:14:34,621
facilitate the interpreters?

5243
03:14:36,992 --> 03:14:38,527
We'll do. The interpreter,

5244
03:14:38,527 --> 03:14:39,161
please. And is available to

5245
03:14:39,161 --> 03:14:42,161
move over to the English

5246
03:14:48,870 --> 03:14:50,939
Channel. Razor hand for me.

5247
03:14:50,939 --> 03:14:53,939
>> Thank you, Hugh Oca. One

5248
03:15:05,287 --> 03:15:07,723
moment. Okay. Okay. If you

5249
03:15:07,723 --> 03:15:09,258
would like to let the speaker

5250
03:15:09,258 --> 03:15:09,925
the best way for you to

5251
03:15:09,925 --> 03:15:12,325
interpret. Go right ahead.

5252
03:15:24,305 --> 03:15:25,107
You're in the English Channel.

5253
03:15:25,107 --> 03:15:28,107
>> Okay. Deadly and then taken

5254
03:15:28,377 --> 03:15:29,111
to these courses a get the

5255
03:15:29,111 --> 03:15:29,745
meaning of war yet. To put the

5256
03:15:29,745 --> 03:15:30,479
article says, you know, a

5257
03:15:30,479 --> 03:15:32,782
different than the means about

5258
03:15:32,782 --> 03:15:33,482
them. And they spoke us,

5259
03:15:33,482 --> 03:15:37,820
essence, what not just end of

5260
03:15:37,887 --> 03:15:40,256
a Nancy, a? Yes guy. But I get

5261
03:15:40,256 --> 03:15:43,590
a the stand little see a

5262
03:15:43,590 --> 03:15:45,427
fellow noticed that they've

5263
03:15:45,427 --> 03:15:49,627
good will they be got on that

5264
03:15:50,132 --> 03:15:52,201
nothing bustle in up It been

5265
03:15:52,201 --> 03:15:56,439
No, still go. Let me get a is

5266
03:15:56,439 --> 03:15:57,373
the not to make money that but

5267
03:15:57,373 --> 03:15:58,740
way families we they get is

5268
03:15:58,740 --> 03:16:00,976
that more young Williams said

5269
03:16:00,976 --> 03:16:02,478
that it looked but got notice.

5270
03:16:02,478 --> 03:16:06,780
There no make look Yeah. Who

5271
03:16:06,248 --> 03:16:06,983
leave on with over not see

5272
03:16:06,983 --> 03:16:10,583
aggressive in the zone is. But

5273
03:16:12,889 --> 03:16:13,556
been a season Amelia. Good

5274
03:16:13,556 --> 03:16:16,556
evening. My name. Ready to

5275
03:16:16,592 --> 03:16:17,293
send a minute here and I'm

5276
03:16:17,293 --> 03:16:19,362
here to thank each and every

5277
03:16:19,362 --> 03:16:19,996
one of you for amending the

5278
03:16:19,996 --> 03:16:22,396
ordinance the past APRIL.

5279
03:16:22,465 --> 03:16:23,366
Thank you for making those

5280
03:16:23,366 --> 03:16:24,267
changes.

5281
03:16:24,267 --> 03:16:26,267
>> corporation with ice

5282
03:16:26,435 --> 03:16:27,136
tonight. My community is going

5283
03:16:27,136 --> 03:16:29,405
to be very happy and I'm very

5284
03:16:29,405 --> 03:16:30,106
proud to have voted for any

5285
03:16:30,106 --> 03:16:30,773
community. One of you. I make

5286
03:16:30,773 --> 03:16:33,676
the right choice. I knew we

5287
03:16:33,676 --> 03:16:34,377
would accomplish this. Thank

5288
03:16:34,377 --> 03:16:37,714
you so much blessings to you

5289
03:16:37,714 --> 03:16:38,414
and your families.

5290
03:16:38,414 --> 03:16:40,183
>> Thank you. Can sell marry

5291
03:16:40,183 --> 03:16:43,183
and and then Nicholas. Marion

5292
03:16:45,454 --> 03:16:47,854
here. Please go ahead.

5293
03:16:48,290 --> 03:16:49,525
>> My name is Mary and

5294
03:16:49,525 --> 03:16:52,525
Michaels. I'm here in support

5295
03:16:53,950 --> 03:16:55,164
of your vision of both a

5296
03:16:55,164 --> 03:16:55,965
strong resolution, amended

5297
03:16:55,965 --> 03:16:58,365
ordinance that will work

5298
03:16:58,902 --> 03:17:00,904
together in a good marriage to

5299
03:17:00,904 --> 03:17:02,605
provide the most protection

5300
03:17:02,605 --> 03:17:05,500
possible for Santa Rosa

5301
03:17:05,742 --> 03:17:08,770
residents who live in fear of

5302
03:17:08,770 --> 03:17:08,911
ice. I would like to take this

5303
03:17:08,911 --> 03:17:11,311
opportunity to thank city

5304
03:17:11,848 --> 03:17:13,820
manager and city attorney for

5305
03:17:13,820 --> 03:17:15,785
their willingness to listen to

5306
03:17:15,785 --> 03:17:17,554
the concerns raised by our

5307
03:17:17,554 --> 03:17:18,387
sanctuary coalition. And

5308
03:17:18,387 --> 03:17:20,156
further due diligence

5309
03:17:20,156 --> 03:17:21,570
incorporating our suggestions

5310
03:17:21,570 --> 03:17:24,570
and advice into the documents

5311
03:17:25,228 --> 03:17:28,228
before you today. 7 of the

5312
03:17:30,133 --> 03:17:31,266
city council members have my

5313
03:17:31,266 --> 03:17:33,200
respect and highest esteem for

5314
03:17:33,200 --> 03:17:35,205
what you are about to

5315
03:17:35,205 --> 03:17:36,806
accomplish when you vote for

5316
03:17:36,806 --> 03:17:39,206
the resolution and the

5317
03:17:39,743 --> 03:17:40,410
non-cooperation ordinance.

5318
03:17:40,410 --> 03:17:41,440
Thank you.

5319
03:17:41,440 --> 03:17:41,678
>> Thank you, Mary. And a

5320
03:17:41,678 --> 03:17:44,780
stolen necklace. And then

5321
03:17:45,548 --> 03:17:48,548
Isabel. Still as that. You.

5322
03:17:51,254 --> 03:17:51,987
Yes, please go ahead.

5323
03:17:51,987 --> 03:17:52,622
>> Good night. Name is a state

5324
03:17:52,622 --> 03:17:53,356
law and I'm here today to

5325
03:17:53,356 --> 03:17:55,758
speak for those who can't. For

5326
03:17:55,758 --> 03:17:58,528
those who are afraid. For

5327
03:17:58,528 --> 03:18:01,965
those feel unsafe. And I just

5328
03:18:01,965 --> 03:18:03,632
want let you know that. Thank

5329
03:18:03,632 --> 03:18:06,200
you. Thank you so much. You

5330
03:18:06,200 --> 03:18:09,339
have no idea how our community

5331
03:18:09,339 --> 03:18:11,107
feels tonight. Once again,

5332
03:18:11,107 --> 03:18:15,307
thank you. And I have no other

5333
03:18:17,681 --> 03:18:18,348
words. Is fine. Your you know,

5334
03:18:18,348 --> 03:18:21,948
this been go out put those

5335
03:18:23,860 --> 03:18:24,421
details. Is cnn then in dose

5336
03:18:24,421 --> 03:18:25,122
guy, the in in Middle East on

5337
03:18:25,122 --> 03:18:28,580
a month this now stands good

5338
03:18:28,580 --> 03:18:29,893
as the U.S.. No 7, again,

5339
03:18:29,893 --> 03:18:32,893
Mitchell and money that is

5340
03:18:35,265 --> 03:18:35,932
spent even most us. Thank you,

5341
03:18:35,932 --> 03:18:39,202
Nicholas, and use a bow and

5342
03:18:39,202 --> 03:18:41,202
Teresa.

5343
03:18:41,938 --> 03:18:42,271
>> Nicholas Yeo Nicholas, Go

5344
03:18:42,271 --> 03:18:43,600
ahead.

5345
03:18:43,600 --> 03:18:44,908
>> Thank you. Good evening. My

5346
03:18:44,908 --> 03:18:46,309
name is Nicole asked for this.

5347
03:18:46,309 --> 03:18:47,744
I want to take the opportunity

5348
03:18:47,744 --> 03:18:49,450
to lift up again the sanctuary

5349
03:18:49,450 --> 03:18:52,450
coalition for the work that

5350
03:18:52,480 --> 03:18:53,283
they've done in making this

5351
03:18:53,283 --> 03:18:54,284
happen. And and also to

5352
03:18:54,284 --> 03:18:55,252
acknowledge that that's come

5353
03:18:55,252 --> 03:18:55,952
at great personal cost for all

5354
03:18:55,952 --> 03:18:58,322
those that have been involved

5355
03:18:58,322 --> 03:19:00,290
in this movement. The late

5356
03:19:00,290 --> 03:19:02,690
night still organizing the

5357
03:19:03,160 --> 03:19:05,262
stress in order to to to be at

5358
03:19:05,262 --> 03:19:06,363
this point that we are here to

5359
03:19:06,363 --> 03:19:08,965
date. You know, I'm I'm a

5360
03:19:08,965 --> 03:19:09,733
relatively new resident here

5361
03:19:09,733 --> 03:19:11,635
in Sonoma County. I'm

5362
03:19:11,635 --> 03:19:13,670
originally from San Antonio,

5363
03:19:13,670 --> 03:19:14,338
Texas. And after last

5364
03:19:14,338 --> 03:19:14,972
Tuesday's one of the first

5365
03:19:14,972 --> 03:19:17,241
times that I don't feel a

5366
03:19:17,241 --> 03:19:18,642
little tinge of shame in

5367
03:19:18,642 --> 03:19:19,343
saying that we're feeling like

5368
03:19:19,343 --> 03:19:21,812
I have to over explain where

5369
03:19:21,812 --> 03:19:22,880
I'd come from. And I'm really

5370
03:19:22,880 --> 03:19:25,515
happy to see that cities like

5371
03:19:25,515 --> 03:19:26,650
San Antonio, Houston and

5372
03:19:26,650 --> 03:19:29,500
Austin are reevaluating their

5373
03:19:29,186 --> 03:19:31,186
relationship and their

5374
03:19:31,288 --> 03:19:32,956
policies regarding ice now

5375
03:19:32,956 --> 03:19:33,824
understand it's been 30 years

5376
03:19:33,824 --> 03:19:34,525
since there's been Democratic

5377
03:19:34,525 --> 03:19:37,927
majority in Texas and it took

5378
03:19:37,927 --> 03:19:39,663
them that long it should have

5379
03:19:39,663 --> 03:19:40,430
taken you all a little bit

5380
03:19:40,430 --> 03:19:41,131
faster to make this thing

5381
03:19:41,131 --> 03:19:44,660
happen tonight. But that's my

5382
03:19:44,660 --> 03:19:46,660
comment. Thank you.

5383
03:19:47,743 --> 03:19:47,960
>> Thank you, Nicholas

5384
03:19:47,960 --> 03:19:49,720
Isabella, Teresa.

5385
03:19:49,720 --> 03:19:50,107
>> The 7 here with the

5386
03:19:50,107 --> 03:19:51,175
sanctuary coalition. I'm

5387
03:19:51,175 --> 03:19:53,209
really proud. First of all of

5388
03:19:53,209 --> 03:19:56,790
the people of the women, they

5389
03:19:56,790 --> 03:19:56,747
came together to speak up,

5390
03:19:56,747 --> 03:19:59,747
beside feeling all the fear

5391
03:20:01,118 --> 03:20:02,986
and still came courageously to

5392
03:20:02,986 --> 03:20:03,954
speak about their fear and the

5393
03:20:03,954 --> 03:20:06,457
need for this ordinance or to

5394
03:20:06,457 --> 03:20:08,457
amend the ordinance.

5395
03:20:09,293 --> 03:20:09,993
>> I also like to think the

5396
03:20:09,993 --> 03:20:11,795
city staff for really sitting

5397
03:20:11,795 --> 03:20:12,496
down with us a few times and

5398
03:20:12,496 --> 03:20:14,896
really hearing and listening

5399
03:20:17,701 --> 03:20:19,670
in. And making policy from

5400
03:20:19,670 --> 03:20:22,670
that. So tonight everybody is

5401
03:20:22,740 --> 03:20:24,442
going to feel safe. And and

5402
03:20:24,442 --> 03:20:26,477
I'm just like really proud to

5403
03:20:26,477 --> 03:20:26,877
be a Santa Rosa's PRESIDENT.

5404
03:20:26,877 --> 03:20:28,877
Thank you.

5405
03:20:37,354 --> 03:20:38,489
>> Thank yous about to reset.

5406
03:20:38,489 --> 03:20:41,580
>> When he might maze, that is

5407
03:20:41,580 --> 03:20:41,459
that I thank you for

5408
03:20:41,459 --> 03:20:42,893
everything.

5409
03:20:42,893 --> 03:20:45,893
>> more humid still needs? MAY

5410
03:20:50,301 --> 03:20:52,570
5, maybe. From my community.

5411
03:20:52,570 --> 03:20:56,770
Big Thank you. Were and all of

5412
03:20:57,208 --> 03:20:57,908
you and

5413
03:20:57,908 --> 03:20:58,576
>> Thank you very much. Thank

5414
03:20:58,576 --> 03:21:01,479
you for making the time to

5415
03:21:01,479 --> 03:21:02,179
come out tonight. Alright, is

5416
03:21:02,179 --> 03:21:02,880
there anybody else in council

5417
03:21:02,880 --> 03:21:05,880
chambers who wishes to speak

5418
03:21:06,851 --> 03:21:07,550
on this topic? So if you wish

5419
03:21:07,550 --> 03:21:08,285
to speak, if you could doing

5420
03:21:08,285 --> 03:21:13,850
right by the day and so we can

5421
03:21:19,597 --> 03:21:21,265
move through efficiently. So

5422
03:21:21,265 --> 03:21:21,933
you have the floor. Thank you.

5423
03:21:21,933 --> 03:21:23,301
I don't take anything away

5424
03:21:23,301 --> 03:21:25,701
from this lovely moment.

5425
03:21:27,772 --> 03:21:29,507
>> But I do want to. Respond

5426
03:21:29,507 --> 03:21:31,609
to some of the fluffy words

5427
03:21:31,609 --> 03:21:33,778
that we've heard talking about

5428
03:21:33,778 --> 03:21:35,813
standing up to fascism, racism

5429
03:21:35,813 --> 03:21:38,716
and who is or isn't the enemy

5430
03:21:38,716 --> 03:21:41,520
or whether laws matter because

5431
03:21:41,520 --> 03:21:41,919
I was part of a group that

5432
03:21:41,919 --> 03:21:45,690
came here for well over a year

5433
03:21:45,690 --> 03:21:46,389
asking you to stand up for

5434
03:21:46,389 --> 03:21:48,760
another group of people that

5435
03:21:48,760 --> 03:21:49,760
are not going to be sleeping

5436
03:21:49,760 --> 03:21:51,429
any better tonight as the

5437
03:21:51,429 --> 03:21:52,597
Palestinian people that are in

5438
03:21:52,597 --> 03:21:55,597
your community. And so just

5439
03:21:56,267 --> 03:21:58,603
kind of remember that. I don't

5440
03:21:58,603 --> 03:22:00,571
I I was shocked to find how

5441
03:22:00,571 --> 03:22:02,971
how conservative the city

5442
03:22:03,441 --> 03:22:06,878
really is and how difficult it

5443
03:22:06,878 --> 03:22:07,779
is to move human beings to be

5444
03:22:07,779 --> 03:22:08,979
human beings.

5445
03:22:08,979 --> 03:22:10,882
>> And you just we were on our

5446
03:22:10,882 --> 03:22:11,548
side on that one. And we came

5447
03:22:11,548 --> 03:22:12,483
out for over a year. And I

5448
03:22:12,483 --> 03:22:13,518
also want to mention that the

5449
03:22:13,518 --> 03:22:15,653
council reports are a great

5450
03:22:15,653 --> 03:22:19,253
place to respond to people and

5451
03:22:19,491 --> 03:22:20,358
most city councils do Maybe

5452
03:22:20,358 --> 03:22:20,992
consider, you know your

5453
03:22:20,992 --> 03:22:23,392
comments and your council

5454
03:22:25,630 --> 03:22:26,364
reports.

5455
03:22:26,364 --> 03:22:27,650
>> Thank you. Is there anybody

5456
03:22:27,650 --> 03:22:29,400
else in council chambers who

5457
03:22:29,400 --> 03:22:30,340
to speak?

5458
03:22:30,340 --> 03:22:32,434
>> Seeing none. We'll go

5459
03:22:34,372 --> 03:22:35,373
online. MADAM Zuma host, is

5460
03:22:35,373 --> 03:22:36,740
there online with their hand

5461
03:22:36,740 --> 03:22:38,409
or hands raiser is Dial Star

5462
03:22:38,409 --> 03:22:40,409
9.

5463
03:22:43,714 --> 03:22:45,714
>> We to Mayor.

5464
03:22:45,884 --> 03:22:47,285
>> gonna go with Allan, but

5465
03:22:47,285 --> 03:22:47,986
that is the only hand that I

5466
03:22:47,986 --> 03:22:49,787
have up Anybody else wants to

5467
03:22:49,787 --> 03:22:52,787
make a comment. Raise your

5468
03:22:53,324 --> 03:22:54,250
hand or star 9. Alan, I have

5469
03:22:54,250 --> 03:22:56,425
enabled your permissions. Go

5470
03:22:58,396 --> 03:23:00,396
right ahead.

5471
03:23:00,465 --> 03:23:02,600
>> think you really wanted to

5472
03:23:02,600 --> 03:23:05,000
there person tonight, needed

5473
03:23:05,971 --> 03:23:07,605
to at least call Thank

5474
03:23:07,605 --> 03:23:10,500
everyone in security coalition

5475
03:23:11,142 --> 03:23:14,145
who worked so hard to make

5476
03:23:14,145 --> 03:23:14,846
this happen and everyone

5477
03:23:14,846 --> 03:23:17,246
continuously been showing up

5478
03:23:17,715 --> 03:23:19,885
to city Council want to thank

5479
03:23:19,885 --> 03:23:21,190
the council as well. If they

5480
03:23:21,190 --> 03:23:24,190
coming to you and making

5481
03:23:26,958 --> 03:23:29,958
public comment for many, many

5482
03:23:31,363 --> 03:23:31,996
decades. And this the the

5483
03:23:31,996 --> 03:23:33,565
first time that I've ever

5484
03:23:33,565 --> 03:23:35,565
actually felt heard.

5485
03:23:37,469 --> 03:23:38,169
>> I was one of those people

5486
03:23:38,169 --> 03:23:40,505
Jason mentioned, who was also

5487
03:23:40,505 --> 03:23:41,406
trying to get you to pass a

5488
03:23:41,406 --> 03:23:42,306
ceasefire resolution

5489
03:23:42,306 --> 03:23:45,306
Palestine. That was just one

5490
03:23:45,377 --> 03:23:48,513
of the many times we just not

5491
03:23:48,513 --> 03:23:49,213
hurt at all. So thank you for

5492
03:23:49,213 --> 03:23:51,483
for finally getting it right

5493
03:23:51,483 --> 03:23:53,483
this time.

5494
03:23:53,585 --> 03:23:56,585
>> Thank you, Allan. Moving on

5495
03:23:56,754 --> 03:23:57,489
to Chris 10. Kristen, I've

5496
03:23:57,489 --> 03:24:00,489
been able permissions go right

5497
03:24:05,963 --> 03:24:08,963
ahead. Kristen. Huge step to

5498
03:24:17,509 --> 03:24:18,243
unmute yourself. We MAY be

5499
03:24:18,243 --> 03:24:20,243
having some technical

5500
03:24:32,900 --> 03:24:33,258
difficulties with Kristen.

5501
03:24:33,258 --> 03:24:33,992
Kristen, we can't hear you.

5502
03:24:33,992 --> 03:24:37,592
You're going to have to unmute

5503
03:24:39,898 --> 03:24:41,433
yourself. Kristen has changed

5504
03:24:41,433 --> 03:24:44,269
her mind. Mayor, she has

5505
03:24:44,269 --> 03:24:44,903
lowered her hand been that all

5506
03:24:44,903 --> 03:24:45,504
she wrote.

5507
03:24:45,504 --> 03:24:46,171
>> Thank you very much.

5508
03:24:46,171 --> 03:24:48,571
Alright, we'll close public

5509
03:24:52,410 --> 03:24:55,410
comment. Week. We closed in

5510
03:24:59,551 --> 03:25:03,550
public comment wine. Go go for

5511
03:25:03,550 --> 03:25:05,550
it. The wind.

5512
03:25:06,358 --> 03:25:07,292
>> That I'm from Roseland. I

5513
03:25:07,292 --> 03:25:09,228
thank you for the opportunity

5514
03:25:09,228 --> 03:25:09,928
to speak. I know it's very

5515
03:25:09,928 --> 03:25:12,398
difficult to give us the time

5516
03:25:12,398 --> 03:25:13,650
you would like to. I like to

5517
03:25:13,650 --> 03:25:15,634
thank all these people that

5518
03:25:15,634 --> 03:25:17,769
came to speak and all the

5519
03:25:17,769 --> 03:25:19,371
people that have come so many

5520
03:25:19,371 --> 03:25:21,273
times before to speak and try

5521
03:25:21,273 --> 03:25:23,673
to influence any decisions

5522
03:25:24,376 --> 03:25:25,410
they come from this body. It's

5523
03:25:25,410 --> 03:25:28,647
very important that we keep in

5524
03:25:28,647 --> 03:25:29,348
mind and a Democratic

5525
03:25:29,348 --> 03:25:31,183
situation that we listen to

5526
03:25:31,183 --> 03:25:33,285
the folks who are the voters.

5527
03:25:33,285 --> 03:25:35,187
We give them a chance to be

5528
03:25:35,187 --> 03:25:37,790
heard and then act upon what

5529
03:25:37,790 --> 03:25:38,457
has been said in the meeting.

5530
03:25:38,457 --> 03:25:41,626
I'm very glad that you took

5531
03:25:41,626 --> 03:25:42,427
the actions you did today. But

5532
03:25:42,427 --> 03:25:45,431
I do believe you could be

5533
03:25:45,431 --> 03:25:47,666
giving more time to listen to

5534
03:25:47,666 --> 03:25:48,768
the people. And you should

5535
03:25:48,768 --> 03:25:51,470
also taking account what that

5536
03:25:51,470 --> 03:25:53,773
man Allen said. I've never

5537
03:25:53,773 --> 03:25:55,341
met, but he pointed out how

5538
03:25:55,341 --> 03:25:57,810
you ignore a lot of big issues

5539
03:25:57,810 --> 03:26:00,245
for a long time. And then

5540
03:26:00,245 --> 03:26:01,460
occasionally pay attention,

5541
03:26:01,460 --> 03:26:01,713
pay attention to all the

5542
03:26:01,713 --> 03:26:04,713
issues all the time. Thank

5543
03:26:07,180 --> 03:26:07,653
you.

5544
03:26:07,653 --> 03:26:08,353
>> All right. We're gonna

5545
03:26:08,353 --> 03:26:09,922
close public comment and I'm

5546
03:26:09,922 --> 03:26:11,900
going to bring it back to the

5547
03:26:11,900 --> 03:26:11,791
Some looking for for a motion

5548
03:26:11,791 --> 03:26:14,791
from this been Willows. Plus,

5549
03:26:18,364 --> 03:26:18,998
any final discussion. If there

5550
03:26:18,998 --> 03:26:19,731
is any but motion first,

5551
03:26:19,731 --> 03:26:21,400
family, los, there's something

5552
03:26:21,400 --> 03:26:23,350
on that on the table.

5553
03:26:23,350 --> 03:26:23,636
>> Just thank you again. Thank

5554
03:26:23,636 --> 03:26:27,236
And I thank all of you,

5555
03:26:29,875 --> 03:26:30,542
especially. And it's really

5556
03:26:30,542 --> 03:26:33,790
>> honor to move to adopt a

5557
03:26:33,790 --> 03:26:33,779
resolution and introduce.

5558
03:26:33,779 --> 03:26:36,179
>> An ordinance as presented

5559
03:26:40,286 --> 03:26:40,886
by staff. Probably second.

5560
03:26:40,886 --> 03:26:43,886
>> All right. We have a

5561
03:26:44,490 --> 03:26:45,190
motion. We have a second.

5562
03:26:45,190 --> 03:26:47,626
MADAM City clerk can call the

5563
03:26:47,626 --> 03:26:49,128
vote whenever you're ready.

5564
03:26:49,128 --> 03:26:49,729
>> Thank you. Mayor

5565
03:26:49,729 --> 03:26:51,729
Councilmember Rogers, I

5566
03:26:52,731 --> 03:26:53,765
Councilmember Macdonald, I

5567
03:26:53,765 --> 03:26:54,700
councilmember Fleming

5568
03:26:54,700 --> 03:26:55,434
Councilmember Ben well oath.

5569
03:26:55,434 --> 03:26:57,434
Yes, Councilmember Alvarez

5570
03:26:58,470 --> 03:26:59,372
Vice Mayor Okrepkie. I mayor

5571
03:26:59,372 --> 03:27:02,972
stop. Yes. Let the record show

5572
03:27:09,150 --> 03:27:10,983
this passes unanimously.

5573
03:27:10,983 --> 03:27:12,952
>> Thank you. Thank you to all

5574
03:27:12,952 --> 03:27:15,588
the commuters who came so many

5575
03:27:15,588 --> 03:27:16,255
weeks and again to our city

5576
03:27:16,255 --> 03:27:18,570
manager, city attorney, our

5577
03:27:18,570 --> 03:27:19,920
legal teams. Is a lot of a lot

5578
03:27:19,920 --> 03:27:19,725
of time. So thank you very

5579
03:27:19,725 --> 03:27:22,125
much for shepherding this

5580
03:27:24,264 --> 03:27:24,997
through. All right, folks,

5581
03:27:24,997 --> 03:27:27,232
thank you. Thank you very much

5582
03:27:27,232 --> 03:27:30,832
for coming out again. And with

5583
03:27:32,472 --> 03:27:36,720
and with that. We're going to

5584
03:27:36,509 --> 03:27:39,211
hop up to item 15.1. Our

5585
03:27:39,211 --> 03:27:39,912
report on the reservoir report

5586
03:27:39,912 --> 03:27:40,613
concerning the resolution of

5587
03:27:40,613 --> 03:27:43,316
the city council. The city of

5588
03:27:43,316 --> 03:27:44,160
Santa Rosa proclaiming a local

5589
03:27:44,160 --> 03:27:44,651
emergency related the threat

5590
03:27:44,651 --> 03:27:47,190
of severe weather storms,

5591
03:27:47,190 --> 03:27:48,821
flooding and other hazardous

5592
03:27:48,821 --> 03:27:51,221
conditions associated with the

5593
03:27:57,829 --> 03:27:58,498
2026. 2027 Nino event. Chief

5594
03:27:58,498 --> 03:28:00,898
Westrope, thanks for being

5595
03:28:04,604 --> 03:28:06,840
here this evening. Good

5596
03:28:06,840 --> 03:28:07,440
evening. Thank Good evening,

5597
03:28:07,440 --> 03:28:08,141
Mayor. Members, council

5598
03:28:08,141 --> 03:28:10,844
SkyWest, real fire chief, the

5599
03:28:10,844 --> 03:28:13,244
city of Santa Rosa.

5600
03:28:14,180 --> 03:28:17,180
>> Today I am bringing forward

5601
03:28:17,350 --> 03:28:19,350
proactive proclamation of

5602
03:28:20,120 --> 03:28:20,887
emergency. Thank those at the

5603
03:28:20,887 --> 03:28:21,421
end later announces interim

5604
03:28:21,421 --> 03:28:22,880
city manager on the

5605
03:28:22,880 --> 03:28:24,880
presentation. Delegation is

5606
03:28:26,126 --> 03:28:29,726
the key to success. So just

5607
03:28:30,960 --> 03:28:31,965
some real quick Keep this

5608
03:28:31,965 --> 03:28:33,466
short. Noaa is forecasting a

5609
03:28:33,466 --> 03:28:36,466
very strong El Nino event

5610
03:28:37,236 --> 03:28:39,339
through the winner of 26 27.

5611
03:28:39,339 --> 03:28:39,973
We've been working with our

5612
03:28:39,973 --> 03:28:40,707
partners at the National

5613
03:28:40,707 --> 03:28:43,643
Weather Service and just had a

5614
03:28:43,643 --> 03:28:44,844
briefing recently as expects

5615
03:28:44,844 --> 03:28:46,713
staff and just surfer some

5616
03:28:46,713 --> 03:28:47,681
quick background on the news.

5617
03:28:47,681 --> 03:28:48,381
And though Nick phenomenon,

5618
03:28:48,381 --> 03:28:51,981
it's not a storm or steering

5619
03:28:52,519 --> 03:28:53,186
series of storms. There's 100%

5620
03:28:53,186 --> 03:28:53,820
chance of a very strong El

5621
03:28:53,820 --> 03:28:56,220
Nino this year, actually

5622
03:28:56,322 --> 03:28:56,990
already in it. What you're

5623
03:28:56,990 --> 03:28:57,690
seeing with the king to the

5624
03:28:57,690 --> 03:29:01,290
king tides in the Kelvin ties

5625
03:29:01,328 --> 03:29:03,363
throughout the state. There's

5626
03:29:03,363 --> 03:29:04,297
a high likelihood and 83%

5627
03:29:04,297 --> 03:29:05,265
chance of an historic event

5628
03:29:05,265 --> 03:29:05,965
that would exceed the strength

5629
03:29:05,965 --> 03:29:09,565
of previous on the new events

5630
03:29:10,137 --> 03:29:11,237
dating back to 1950. While

5631
03:29:11,237 --> 03:29:12,710
stronger. El Nino events can

5632
03:29:12,710 --> 03:29:13,806
more significantly tilt the

5633
03:29:13,806 --> 03:29:15,275
odds in favor of expected

5634
03:29:15,275 --> 03:29:16,108
outcomes beat him in a strong

5635
03:29:16,108 --> 03:29:16,643
El Nino events do not lead to

5636
03:29:16,643 --> 03:29:18,643
the expected impact

5637
03:29:21,714 --> 03:29:22,415
everywhere. The message is

5638
03:29:22,415 --> 03:29:23,830
there, that only new is here

5639
03:29:23,830 --> 03:29:25,519
now and then you'll be here

5640
03:29:25,519 --> 03:29:26,253
through the winter? Well, we

5641
03:29:26,253 --> 03:29:27,854
were essentially told directly

5642
03:29:27,854 --> 03:29:28,755
from the National Weather

5643
03:29:28,755 --> 03:29:29,822
Service is we don't know where

5644
03:29:29,822 --> 03:29:31,792
it's going to land if it's

5645
03:29:31,792 --> 03:29:32,525
going to land in Santa Rosa or

5646
03:29:32,525 --> 03:29:34,294
what the intensity will be. So

5647
03:29:34,294 --> 03:29:35,762
it could be normal rainfall.

5648
03:29:35,762 --> 03:29:36,429
It could very high rainfall.

5649
03:29:36,429 --> 03:29:40,290
We're just not sure. And we

5650
03:29:41,680 --> 03:29:42,200
won't know until it happens.

5651
03:29:42,200 --> 03:29:42,635
This proclamation is following

5652
03:29:42,635 --> 03:29:44,904
the state who declared a

5653
03:29:44,904 --> 03:29:46,904
practiced emergency. SEPTEMBER

5654
03:29:47,674 --> 03:29:48,508
21st of 2026. And also the

5655
03:29:48,508 --> 03:29:52,708
county of snow in the city of

5656
03:29:53,413 --> 03:29:55,382
Cloverdale followed suit. As

5657
03:29:55,382 --> 03:29:56,583
we all know, potential impacts

5658
03:29:56,583 --> 03:29:59,583
for Santa Rosa will include

5659
03:30:00,454 --> 03:30:01,188
intense rainfall, localized

5660
03:30:01,188 --> 03:30:03,560
flooding creek in storm water.

5661
03:30:03,560 --> 03:30:03,289
Inundation erosion, landslide

5662
03:30:03,289 --> 03:30:03,489
s#

5663
03:30:03,489 --> 03:30:03,705
#

5664
03:30:03,705 --> 03:30:03,899
#

5665
03:30:03,899 --> 03:30:04,925
#

5666
03:30:04,925 --> 03:30:06,426
, instability, fallen

5667
03:30:06,426 --> 03:30:06,960
trees, storm-related, debris,

5668
03:30:06,960 --> 03:30:08,960
electrical outages,

5669
03:30:10,263 --> 03:30:11,865
transportation public moment.

5670
03:30:11,865 --> 03:30:12,599
>> Transportation disruptions

5671
03:30:12,599 --> 03:30:13,266
potential damage to public

5672
03:30:13,266 --> 03:30:14,802
infrastructure and private

5673
03:30:14,802 --> 03:30:16,802
property. Lauren, you're

5674
03:30:20,708 --> 03:30:24,308
Mike's on. So what are we

5675
03:30:26,130 --> 03:30:28,648
doing to prepare? So the city

5676
03:30:28,648 --> 03:30:29,449
is being very proactive across

5677
03:30:29,449 --> 03:30:32,449
all departments. This is this

5678
03:30:32,452 --> 03:30:34,221
part of the proactive

5679
03:30:34,221 --> 03:30:35,422
approach.

5680
03:30:35,422 --> 03:30:36,590
>> dpw has gone out and

5681
03:30:36,590 --> 03:30:37,290
targeted specific drained

5682
03:30:37,290 --> 03:30:39,260
repairs. Maintenance of city

5683
03:30:39,260 --> 03:30:41,260
maintained range facilities

5684
03:30:41,160 --> 03:30:42,295
and creeks, probably the

5685
03:30:42,295 --> 03:30:43,363
biggest thing that we've done,

5686
03:30:43,363 --> 03:30:44,970
the effort that we're

5687
03:30:44,970 --> 03:30:45,832
undertaking is coordinating

5688
03:30:45,832 --> 03:30:47,600
preparedness activities across

5689
03:30:47,600 --> 03:30:48,302
city departments. Our

5690
03:30:48,302 --> 03:30:49,360
emergency managers, both the

5691
03:30:49,360 --> 03:30:51,305
playbook to make sure that all

5692
03:30:51,305 --> 03:30:52,540
departments are proactively

5693
03:30:52,540 --> 03:30:54,375
engaged in mitigation

5694
03:30:54,375 --> 03:30:55,809
activities and response

5695
03:30:55,809 --> 03:30:56,409
enhancements. We're monitoring

5696
03:30:56,409 --> 03:30:59,379
the weather. We had the

5697
03:30:59,379 --> 03:31:00,648
ability to monitor creek

5698
03:31:00,648 --> 03:31:03,480
conditions through the water

5699
03:31:04,840 --> 03:31:04,784
through Sonoma County water.

5700
03:31:04,784 --> 03:31:07,184
We're preparing our personnel

5701
03:31:07,554 --> 03:31:08,188
equipment, response, resources

5702
03:31:08,188 --> 03:31:10,490
recording with our county

5703
03:31:10,490 --> 03:31:12,890
partners and state agencies.

5704
03:31:13,427 --> 03:31:14,127
And we are preparing in have

5705
03:31:14,127 --> 03:31:14,761
prepared a public information

5706
03:31:14,761 --> 03:31:17,161
and sandbag resources as

5707
03:31:18,310 --> 03:31:19,233
warranted. So what is the

5708
03:31:19,233 --> 03:31:21,633
proclamation do? And for

5709
03:31:22,169 --> 03:31:22,870
formally recognize the

5710
03:31:22,870 --> 03:31:23,571
potential threat. It

5711
03:31:23,571 --> 03:31:24,138
establishes the framework for

5712
03:31:24,138 --> 03:31:26,138
coordinate emergency

5713
03:31:27,607 --> 03:31:28,808
preparedness and response. It

5714
03:31:28,808 --> 03:31:30,344
authorizes the city manager or

5715
03:31:30,344 --> 03:31:30,911
designee to coordinate

5716
03:31:30,911 --> 03:31:32,911
appropriate response

5717
03:31:33,470 --> 03:31:33,747
activities consistent with

5718
03:31:33,747 --> 03:31:34,448
applicable law, adopted

5719
03:31:34,448 --> 03:31:36,848
emergency plans and available

5720
03:31:38,510 --> 03:31:38,819
appropriations. It supports

5721
03:31:38,819 --> 03:31:39,453
coordination with the county

5722
03:31:39,453 --> 03:31:41,853
state and regional maker

5723
03:31:42,790 --> 03:31:43,490
Emergency Management partners,

5724
03:31:43,490 --> 03:31:44,191
the rural choir renewal every

5725
03:31:44,191 --> 03:31:46,861
60 days in can be terminated

5726
03:31:46,861 --> 03:31:48,861
when conditions warrant.

5727
03:31:50,898 --> 03:31:51,598
Before moving on to the

5728
03:31:51,598 --> 03:31:52,332
recommendations. The message

5729
03:31:52,332 --> 03:31:54,769
that we want to convey is that

5730
03:31:54,769 --> 03:31:55,603
the city is ready. We're doing

5731
03:31:55,603 --> 03:31:56,537
everything we can to be

5732
03:31:56,537 --> 03:31:58,937
prepared for both mitigation

5733
03:32:00,274 --> 03:32:00,975
efforts and response efforts.

5734
03:32:00,975 --> 03:32:01,575
We're doing everything ahead

5735
03:32:01,575 --> 03:32:03,243
of time and rest of the

5736
03:32:03,243 --> 03:32:05,212
community to do the same. So

5737
03:32:05,212 --> 03:32:07,810
just like I talk about with

5738
03:32:07,810 --> 03:32:07,781
the fire threat with water

5739
03:32:07,781 --> 03:32:08,949
threat, every resident, every

5740
03:32:08,949 --> 03:32:10,851
dwelling, every business,

5741
03:32:10,851 --> 03:32:13,187
every structure will make a

5742
03:32:13,187 --> 03:32:14,922
difference. Tips for that can

5743
03:32:14,922 --> 03:32:18,522
be found already on sr City

5744
03:32:18,526 --> 03:32:19,193
Dot org. Slash know me know

5745
03:32:19,193 --> 03:32:21,262
Cierra teams put together a

5746
03:32:21,262 --> 03:32:21,895
great Web page with the

5747
03:32:21,895 --> 03:32:22,630
different mitigation and

5748
03:32:22,630 --> 03:32:25,300
preparation activities for the

5749
03:32:25,400 --> 03:32:27,501
community. And lastly, I'd

5750
03:32:27,501 --> 03:32:28,571
like to acknowledge and thinks

5751
03:32:28,571 --> 03:32:29,604
thank those who put this

5752
03:32:29,604 --> 03:32:30,304
together. That would be

5753
03:32:30,304 --> 03:32:33,374
Lindsay Dority out of the sea

5754
03:32:33,374 --> 03:32:33,941
at city manager's office. Adam

5755
03:32:33,941 --> 03:32:34,642
Luna out of the city

5756
03:32:34,642 --> 03:32:37,420
attorney's office in Bregman,

5757
03:32:37,945 --> 03:32:38,646
our emergency manager. I

5758
03:32:38,646 --> 03:32:39,480
really had nothing to do with

5759
03:32:39,480 --> 03:32:40,181
this other than presenting.

5760
03:32:40,181 --> 03:32:43,781
And want to give credit where

5761
03:32:43,818 --> 03:32:45,385
credit is due. So at that, the

5762
03:32:45,385 --> 03:32:46,387
right to the city manager's

5763
03:32:46,387 --> 03:32:48,787
office recommends the council

5764
03:32:48,989 --> 03:32:51,125
by resolution proclaiming a

5765
03:32:51,125 --> 03:32:53,270
local emergency really to the

5766
03:32:53,270 --> 03:32:53,694
to the threat of severe winter

5767
03:32:53,694 --> 03:32:54,428
storms, flooding and other

5768
03:32:54,428 --> 03:32:56,828
hazardous conditions and slick

5769
03:32:57,298 --> 03:32:58,132
associated with the 26 Nino

5770
03:32:58,132 --> 03:33:01,502
event. With that, I will turn

5771
03:33:01,502 --> 03:33:02,103
for any questions. Thank you.

5772
03:33:02,103 --> 03:33:02,804
This was a very moving

5773
03:33:02,804 --> 03:33:04,804
presentation. Chief Westrope.

5774
03:33:06,400 --> 03:33:07,410
You did a great job. Of public

5775
03:33:07,410 --> 03:33:07,708
input. I'm All right.

5776
03:33:07,708 --> 03:33:10,108
Questions or questions from

5777
03:33:12,680 --> 03:33:13,848
council.

5778
03:33:13,848 --> 03:33:14,582
>> I guess just one from a I

5779
03:33:14,582 --> 03:33:15,416
mean, the first city in Sonoma

5780
03:33:15,416 --> 03:33:16,117
County to come forward with

5781
03:33:16,117 --> 03:33:18,986
this for this ordinance will

5782
03:33:18,986 --> 03:33:21,986
be the second cloverdale is

5783
03:33:23,357 --> 03:33:25,159
the first. Are you kidding All

5784
03:33:25,159 --> 03:33:28,162
right. Well, and that runs by

5785
03:33:28,162 --> 03:33:28,863
talking point. Never mind what

5786
03:33:28,863 --> 03:33:29,597
is where we're starting edge

5787
03:33:29,597 --> 03:33:33,197
MAY we're still right there on

5788
03:33:35,102 --> 03:33:35,870
the cutting We are the largest

5789
03:33:35,870 --> 03:33:37,838
city in Seminole County to

5790
03:33:37,838 --> 03:33:38,673
want to proactively declare an

5791
03:33:38,673 --> 03:33:39,374
emergency. I want tell me they

5792
03:33:39,374 --> 03:33:41,475
were first of I could I could

5793
03:33:41,475 --> 03:33:42,760
point out that just in

5794
03:33:42,760 --> 03:33:42,743
tonight's meeting with

5795
03:33:42,743 --> 03:33:44,245
established that we are the

5796
03:33:44,245 --> 03:33:47,845
most pro housing city in the

5797
03:33:48,450 --> 03:33:49,500
state. We have the toughest

5798
03:33:49,500 --> 03:33:51,500
immigration immigration

5799
03:33:52,720 --> 03:33:53,421
ordinances in the North Bay.

5800
03:33:53,421 --> 03:33:54,255
And resolution. And I want to

5801
03:33:54,255 --> 03:33:54,922
say that we were the first

5802
03:33:54,922 --> 03:33:56,791
stage in the most the most

5803
03:33:56,791 --> 03:33:59,791
emergency prepared. I would I

5804
03:34:00,562 --> 03:34:01,796
would say that is accurate.

5805
03:34:01,796 --> 03:34:02,396
This quarter has been used to,

5806
03:34:02,396 --> 03:34:04,399
they have an emergency

5807
03:34:04,399 --> 03:34:06,334
vehicles. Do you have any

5808
03:34:06,334 --> 03:34:07,350
resources? We actually have

5809
03:34:07,350 --> 03:34:10,400
stuff we can do, right. Fire

5810
03:34:10,400 --> 03:34:10,671
Department police Department.

5811
03:34:10,671 --> 03:34:11,339
Okay. I'm sorry. I've lost.

5812
03:34:11,339 --> 03:34:12,600
I've lost the thread here.

5813
03:34:12,600 --> 03:34:14,876
Alright, let's open up the

5814
03:34:14,876 --> 03:34:15,510
public comment. Are there any

5815
03:34:15,510 --> 03:34:16,211
members of the public in

5816
03:34:16,211 --> 03:34:16,845
council chambers who wish to

5817
03:34:16,845 --> 03:34:19,245
speak? Of course, MISTER

5818
03:34:21,490 --> 03:34:23,185
DeWitt Go for it.

5819
03:34:23,185 --> 03:34:25,920
>> Anna, thank you for passing

5820
03:34:25,920 --> 03:34:26,554
this. I wanted to thank the

5821
03:34:26,554 --> 03:34:28,690
staff that's been paying

5822
03:34:28,690 --> 03:34:30,391
attention to Roseland Creek

5823
03:34:30,391 --> 03:34:31,259
recently. We've been talking

5824
03:34:31,259 --> 03:34:35,397
about the need is there for a

5825
03:34:35,397 --> 03:34:36,970
long time and in conjunction

5826
03:34:36,970 --> 03:34:38,299
with the county and

5827
03:34:38,299 --> 03:34:40,368
collaboration and looks like

5828
03:34:40,368 --> 03:34:42,768
there's actually been some

5829
03:34:42,804 --> 03:34:45,804
activity to clear the bridges.

5830
03:34:47,843 --> 03:34:49,911
At Burbank Avenue and McMahon

5831
03:34:49,911 --> 03:34:52,247
Avenue of the bicycle parts

5832
03:34:52,247 --> 03:34:52,848
that the bike thieves

5833
03:34:52,848 --> 03:34:55,248
basically reside in the

5834
03:34:55,283 --> 03:34:58,283
Roseland Creek area. Have been

5835
03:34:58,920 --> 03:34:59,588
storing under those bridges.

5836
03:34:59,588 --> 03:35:02,588
So it's very important that

5837
03:35:02,924 --> 03:35:03,691
you keep this going. We

5838
03:35:03,691 --> 03:35:05,127
haven't had the major range

5839
03:35:05,127 --> 03:35:07,162
yet. We've just had a few

5840
03:35:07,162 --> 03:35:09,731
small ones. If we get the big

5841
03:35:09,731 --> 03:35:10,799
ones going, those bike parts

5842
03:35:10,799 --> 03:35:13,802
will flow and you'll end up

5843
03:35:13,802 --> 03:35:15,504
having those steel parts stuck

5844
03:35:15,504 --> 03:35:19,104
in to the branches that are

5845
03:35:19,741 --> 03:35:20,942
along the creek over at the

5846
03:35:20,942 --> 03:35:22,942
Rosalynn school district

5847
03:35:23,311 --> 03:35:24,780
property to the west of the

5848
03:35:24,780 --> 03:35:25,480
city's properties. So this is

5849
03:35:25,480 --> 03:35:27,482
an opportunity for you, folks

5850
03:35:27,482 --> 03:35:29,450
to be ahead of it. And I thank

5851
03:35:29,450 --> 03:35:32,120
you again that you're doing

5852
03:35:32,120 --> 03:35:32,753
it. And I wanted to also point

5853
03:35:32,753 --> 03:35:36,353
out that one of the best

5854
03:35:37,225 --> 03:35:39,294
things. About being prepared

5855
03:35:39,294 --> 03:35:41,296
is hopefully you won't be

5856
03:35:41,296 --> 03:35:42,364
surprised when the big rain

5857
03:35:42,364 --> 03:35:45,267
does hit because it MAY hit

5858
03:35:45,267 --> 03:35:46,335
when we least expected. We've

5859
03:35:46,335 --> 03:35:48,300
had these nice days and we're

5860
03:35:48,300 --> 03:35:49,871
just like getting lot here.

5861
03:35:49,871 --> 03:35:51,673
But we're going to get some

5862
03:35:51,673 --> 03:35:53,675
what my grandfather used to

5863
03:35:53,675 --> 03:35:56,750
call goalie washers coming

5864
03:35:56,578 --> 03:35:57,312
pretty soon. Probably so.

5865
03:35:57,312 --> 03:36:00,912
Let's be ready for that. Thank

5866
03:36:01,716 --> 03:36:03,986
you again for your efforts at

5867
03:36:03,986 --> 03:36:04,920
Roseland Creek McMinn Avenue

5868
03:36:04,920 --> 03:36:06,788
Bridge and Roseland Creek,

5869
03:36:06,788 --> 03:36:09,157
Burbank Avenue Bridge. Keep up

5870
03:36:09,157 --> 03:36:12,757
the good stuff. Thanks to a

5871
03:36:14,830 --> 03:36:18,767
mri over. All We to take a

5872
03:36:18,767 --> 03:36:19,468
drive past

5873
03:36:19,468 --> 03:36:20,135
>> John's homeless children.

5874
03:36:20,135 --> 03:36:23,735
Take a look at would would

5875
03:36:24,306 --> 03:36:25,400
just turn into. Since he was

5876
03:36:25,400 --> 03:36:28,640
there with an open. And it's

5877
03:36:29,277 --> 03:36:29,911
change to for the worst. I

5878
03:36:29,911 --> 03:36:32,911
drove past there and the

5879
03:36:33,181 --> 03:36:33,882
camping in the ditch. Has

5880
03:36:33,882 --> 03:36:36,819
grown to a massive proportion

5881
03:36:36,819 --> 03:36:40,419
cross the street. It is huge

5882
03:36:41,490 --> 03:36:42,157
this point. And it looks like

5883
03:36:42,157 --> 03:36:44,360
it's apparently be entirely

5884
03:36:44,360 --> 03:36:46,760
ignored. And, you know,

5885
03:36:48,430 --> 03:36:49,980
camping in a ditch. That

5886
03:36:49,980 --> 03:36:49,632
impedes the flow water. So

5887
03:36:49,632 --> 03:36:49,836
just get them the h#

5888
03:36:49,836 --> 03:36:50,230
#

5889
03:36:50,230 --> 03:36:52,230
#

5890
03:36:54,970 --> 03:36:55,604
out of

5891
03:36:55,604 --> 03:36:56,238
>> Thank you, Michael. Is

5892
03:36:56,238 --> 03:36:59,238
there a males in council

5893
03:37:00,309 --> 03:37:01,430
chambers who wishes to speak?

5894
03:37:01,430 --> 03:37:01,743
Seeing none online learning

5895
03:37:01,743 --> 03:37:02,444
anybody online with her hand

5896
03:37:02,444 --> 03:37:04,146
raised anybody. The All-Star

5897
03:37:04,146 --> 03:37:04,813
9.

5898
03:37:04,813 --> 03:37:07,213
>> Negative mayor. I scared

5899
03:37:08,840 --> 03:37:08,718
them all off.

5900
03:37:08,718 --> 03:37:09,985
>> Thank you. And we will

5901
03:37:09,985 --> 03:37:10,619
close public comment and I'll

5902
03:37:10,619 --> 03:37:13,154
bring it back to council.

5903
03:37:13,154 --> 03:37:13,823
MISTER Alvarez with Emotion.

5904
03:37:13,823 --> 03:37:14,557
>> Thank you, mayor. And I

5905
03:37:14,557 --> 03:37:17,527
like to make a motion to adopt

5906
03:37:17,527 --> 03:37:19,428
a resolution as presented by

5907
03:37:19,428 --> 03:37:20,362
staff All right. We have a

5908
03:37:20,362 --> 03:37:21,960
motion with a second by MISS

5909
03:37:21,960 --> 03:37:22,431
McDonald. MADAM City Clerk can

5910
03:37:22,431 --> 03:37:22,765
call a vote whenever you're

5911
03:37:22,765 --> 03:37:24,666
ready.

5912
03:37:24,666 --> 03:37:26,635
>> Thank you. Councilmember

5913
03:37:26,635 --> 03:37:28,635
Rogers, Councilmember

5914
03:37:28,771 --> 03:37:29,438
MacDonald, I councilmember

5915
03:37:29,438 --> 03:37:31,240
Fleming Councilmember Ben

5916
03:37:31,240 --> 03:37:31,606
Willows. Yes, Councilmember

5917
03:37:31,606 --> 03:37:33,606
Alvarez.

5918
03:37:35,344 --> 03:37:37,346
>> Vice mayor a cookie. Maher

5919
03:37:37,346 --> 03:37:38,130
step. Yes. Let the record show

5920
03:37:38,130 --> 03:37:38,714
this passes. 6 affirmative

5921
03:37:38,714 --> 03:37:41,317
votes and Vice Mayor Crappie

5922
03:37:41,317 --> 03:37:42,517
absent.

5923
03:37:42,517 --> 03:37:43,785
>> All right. Thank you very

5924
03:37:43,785 --> 03:37:44,453
much. All right. Now we're

5925
03:37:44,453 --> 03:37:46,388
know, we're clicking along.

5926
03:37:46,388 --> 03:37:48,190
Let's go back and do some of

5927
03:37:48,190 --> 03:37:48,858
the earlier items starting

5928
03:37:48,858 --> 03:37:50,992
with item 6, our report, if

5929
03:37:50,992 --> 03:37:52,662
any on closed session Crocker,

5930
03:37:52,662 --> 03:37:53,562
any report from closed

5931
03:37:53,562 --> 03:37:54,797
session.

5932
03:37:54,797 --> 03:37:56,598
>> Thank you, mayor. The

5933
03:37:56,598 --> 03:37:57,400
council did meet in closed

5934
03:37:57,400 --> 03:37:58,340
session direction was given to

5935
03:37:58,340 --> 03:38:00,434
staff, but no reportable

5936
03:38:00,636 --> 03:38:01,737
actions were taken.

5937
03:38:01,737 --> 03:38:03,406
>> Thank you very much. All

5938
03:38:03,406 --> 03:38:04,140
right. We'll go to item 8.1.

5939
03:38:04,140 --> 03:38:06,540
Our community Empowerment Plan

5940
03:38:09,144 --> 03:38:09,812
update. Didn't MISS Horta or

5941
03:38:09,812 --> 03:38:12,212
MISS Wood? Alright, misty,

5942
03:38:18,854 --> 03:38:19,922
come on down

5943
03:38:19,922 --> 03:38:20,555
>> all right. Good evening,

5944
03:38:20,555 --> 03:38:22,955
mayor and council members

5945
03:38:24,394 --> 03:38:26,462
Misti Wood community. Forgive

5946
03:38:26,462 --> 03:38:27,130
me if communications and

5947
03:38:27,130 --> 03:38:27,730
intergovernmental relations

5948
03:38:27,730 --> 03:38:28,397
officer presenting the

5949
03:38:28,397 --> 03:38:30,397
community Empowerment Plan

5950
03:38:31,233 --> 03:38:31,868
update on behalf of Anna or

5951
03:38:31,868 --> 03:38:34,337
i'm gonna switch it up a

5952
03:38:34,337 --> 03:38:35,204
little bit and just talk about

5953
03:38:35,204 --> 03:38:38,174
result from 2 recent events of

5954
03:38:38,174 --> 03:38:39,375
that and then go into some

5955
03:38:39,375 --> 03:38:40,420
upcoming events. Santa Rosa

5956
03:38:40,420 --> 03:38:40,709
Police Department hosted a

5957
03:38:40,709 --> 03:38:42,611
really successful trunk or

5958
03:38:42,611 --> 03:38:43,579
treat on OCTOBER 29th that I

5959
03:38:43,579 --> 03:38:44,147
think most of you, if not all

5960
03:38:44,147 --> 03:38:46,282
of you were there and

5961
03:38:46,282 --> 03:38:48,682
sometimes in costume, the

5962
03:38:48,918 --> 03:38:51,530
event brought together about

5963
03:38:51,530 --> 03:38:52,121
4,000 attendees for treats a

5964
03:38:52,121 --> 03:38:53,122
petting zoo and community

5965
03:38:53,122 --> 03:38:54,900
building and relationship

5966
03:38:54,900 --> 03:38:54,756
building. So thank you to

5967
03:38:54,756 --> 03:38:55,458
everybody who attended that

5968
03:38:55,458 --> 03:38:56,158
and for the police department

5969
03:38:56,158 --> 03:38:59,158
for their efforts and putting

5970
03:38:59,863 --> 03:39:00,596
that on. And next we had about

5971
03:39:00,596 --> 03:39:02,596
340 community members

5972
03:39:02,699 --> 03:39:04,600
participate in the Southeast

5973
03:39:04,600 --> 03:39:06,469
Greenway, English Language

5974
03:39:06,469 --> 03:39:07,603
workshop on NOVEMBER 4th at

5975
03:39:07,603 --> 03:39:08,370
about 50 committee members

5976
03:39:08,370 --> 03:39:08,972
participate in the Spanish

5977
03:39:08,972 --> 03:39:10,972
language workshop. The

5978
03:39:12,408 --> 03:39:13,420
following day. So we

5979
03:39:13,420 --> 03:39:13,676
appreciate everybody who

5980
03:39:13,676 --> 03:39:14,644
showed up to share their

5981
03:39:14,644 --> 03:39:15,311
vision for what the Southeast

5982
03:39:15,311 --> 03:39:18,311
Greenway could look like in

5983
03:39:18,747 --> 03:39:19,449
time. Looking ahead to the

5984
03:39:19,449 --> 03:39:21,784
holidays, we have that Santa

5985
03:39:21,784 --> 03:39:23,586
was a turkey trot at Old

5986
03:39:23,586 --> 03:39:25,755
Courthouse Square on NOVEMBER.

5987
03:39:25,755 --> 03:39:26,456
26th that starts at 08:30am

5988
03:39:26,456 --> 03:39:29,158
and that benefits the Redwood

5989
03:39:29,158 --> 03:39:29,859
Empire Food Bank. Several city

5990
03:39:29,859 --> 03:39:32,859
departments will be there as

5991
03:39:33,429 --> 03:39:34,431
well participating. On

5992
03:39:34,431 --> 03:39:36,332
NOVEMBER 27th. We have the

5993
03:39:36,332 --> 03:39:37,600
annual tree lighting ceremony

5994
03:39:37,600 --> 03:39:38,301
in courthouse square from

5995
03:39:38,301 --> 03:39:39,100
04:00pm to 07:00pm. This is a

5996
03:39:39,100 --> 03:39:40,804
big one that's been going on

5997
03:39:40,804 --> 03:39:41,538
for more than 40 years. We'll

5998
03:39:41,538 --> 03:39:43,907
have our police department and

5999
03:39:43,907 --> 03:39:44,807
fire department there. And

6000
03:39:44,807 --> 03:39:45,541
it's a good time to come out,

6001
03:39:45,541 --> 03:39:47,941
build community support, local

6002
03:39:49,345 --> 03:39:50,460
businesses. Next up, we have

6003
03:39:50,460 --> 03:39:52,248
our holiday toy Drive, which

6004
03:39:52,248 --> 03:39:54,417
is being hosted by Santa Rosa

6005
03:39:54,417 --> 03:39:55,785
Police Department. So now

6006
03:39:55,785 --> 03:39:58,154
through DECEMBER 13th, if you

6007
03:39:58,154 --> 03:39:58,854
are able to do so we are

6008
03:39:58,854 --> 03:40:01,254
requesting new unwrapped toys

6009
03:40:01,324 --> 03:40:02,492
for children of all ages. I

6010
03:40:02,492 --> 03:40:04,327
will just say typically older

6011
03:40:04,327 --> 03:40:05,294
children get left out of these

6012
03:40:05,294 --> 03:40:06,280
things. So I would consider if

6013
03:40:06,280 --> 03:40:07,163
you're going to donate to look

6014
03:40:07,163 --> 03:40:09,563
for those older teenager

6015
03:40:10,900 --> 03:40:11,634
teenager appropriate gifts,

6016
03:40:11,634 --> 03:40:12,402
toys can be dropped off at the

6017
03:40:12,402 --> 03:40:14,802
police department. Front lobby

6018
03:40:16,606 --> 03:40:17,274
at 9.65 Sonoma Avenue and last

6019
03:40:17,274 --> 03:40:17,974
but not least the Violence

6020
03:40:17,974 --> 03:40:18,675
Prevention Partnership

6021
03:40:18,675 --> 03:40:20,844
Committee survey is still

6022
03:40:20,844 --> 03:40:22,913
going. It closes on NOVEMBER.

6023
03:40:22,913 --> 03:40:23,580
12th. We encourage everybody

6024
03:40:23,580 --> 03:40:25,448
to share their thoughts on

6025
03:40:25,448 --> 03:40:27,448
youth violence. King

6026
03:40:27,550 --> 03:40:28,418
participation and city

6027
03:40:28,418 --> 03:40:29,152
violence prevention part

6028
03:40:29,152 --> 03:40:32,355
priorities at sr City Dot org.

6029
03:40:32,355 --> 03:40:33,556
Slash the partnership. That

6030
03:40:33,556 --> 03:40:34,290
concludes my report for this

6031
03:40:34,290 --> 03:40:35,250
evening. And I'm available for

6032
03:40:35,250 --> 03:40:37,761
any questions. The council MAY

6033
03:40:37,761 --> 03:40:38,428
have. Thank you very much.

6034
03:40:38,428 --> 03:40:41,428
Looking to council for any

6035
03:40:42,766 --> 03:40:44,766
questions.

6036
03:40:45,969 --> 03:40:46,870
>> Now just us, confirmation

6037
03:40:46,870 --> 03:40:49,840
on the great events to trunk

6038
03:40:49,840 --> 03:40:50,573
or Also that the Greenway

6039
03:40:50,573 --> 03:40:51,241
Questor the Greenway community

6040
03:40:51,241 --> 03:40:53,241
gathering the informational

6041
03:40:53,610 --> 03:40:54,311
session. They were both packed

6042
03:40:54,311 --> 03:40:54,945
and great energy. Thank you.

6043
03:40:54,945 --> 03:40:58,181
Thank you so much to for

6044
03:40:58,181 --> 03:40:58,849
assisting with those. What a

6045
03:40:58,849 --> 03:41:00,160
public comment. Anybody in

6046
03:41:00,160 --> 03:41:00,717
council chambers which

6047
03:41:00,717 --> 03:41:03,717
department wish to comment on

6048
03:41:03,754 --> 03:41:04,488
on any of these reports.

6049
03:41:04,488 --> 03:41:05,122
Seeing online. Lauren, anybody

6050
03:41:05,122 --> 03:41:06,255
online with her hand and

6051
03:41:06,255 --> 03:41:08,255
raised.

6052
03:41:10,961 --> 03:41:11,695
>> Nope.

6053
03:41:11,695 --> 03:41:12,395
>> All right. We will. We will

6054
03:41:12,395 --> 03:41:13,960
close this item. Misty, thank

6055
03:41:13,960 --> 03:41:16,633
you very much for filling in

6056
03:41:16,633 --> 03:41:17,201
for an a on to item 9. Our

6057
03:41:17,201 --> 03:41:19,402
city manager and city

6058
03:41:19,402 --> 03:41:21,402
attorneys reports. Manager,

6059
03:41:23,306 --> 03:41:23,941
not anything from you. I thank

6060
03:41:23,941 --> 03:41:25,375
you, Mayor. I've just one

6061
03:41:25,375 --> 03:41:26,476
quick thing to announce really

6062
03:41:26,476 --> 03:41:28,876
excited that the Kiwanis

6063
03:41:29,112 --> 03:41:29,813
Springs Community Park Gardens

6064
03:41:29,813 --> 03:41:30,714
Project received the 2026

6065
03:41:30,714 --> 03:41:32,683
North Bay Business Journal's

6066
03:41:32,683 --> 03:41:34,218
Excellence in Construction

6067
03:41:34,218 --> 03:41:34,852
Award.

6068
03:41:34,852 --> 03:41:35,552
>> The annual recognition

6069
03:41:35,552 --> 03:41:37,200
Recognition highlights 20 of

6070
03:41:37,200 --> 03:41:39,890
the North Bay's most inspiring

6071
03:41:39,890 --> 03:41:40,123
construction projects and

6072
03:41:40,123 --> 03:41:40,824
designs. And this gardens

6073
03:41:40,824 --> 03:41:42,393
project is anticipated to be

6074
03:41:42,393 --> 03:41:45,393
completed by the end of

6075
03:41:45,395 --> 03:41:46,196
NOVEMBER brain. This new space

6076
03:41:46,196 --> 03:41:46,930
for gardening and community

6077
03:41:46,930 --> 03:41:49,666
connection. One step closer to

6078
03:41:49,666 --> 03:41:50,768
opening for residents. Also

6079
03:41:50,768 --> 03:41:52,169
want to congratulate our city

6080
03:41:52,169 --> 03:41:52,803
Staff Project Partners and

6081
03:41:52,803 --> 03:41:53,437
community members whose

6082
03:41:53,437 --> 03:41:55,837
efforts helped bring this

6083
03:41:55,939 --> 03:41:56,606
project to life. And if you're

6084
03:41:56,606 --> 03:41:57,308
interested in learning more

6085
03:41:57,308 --> 03:42:00,760
about that, you can go to sr

6086
03:42:00,760 --> 03:42:00,711
City Dot org forward slash

6087
03:42:00,711 --> 03:42:03,711
Cohen, a springs park and

6088
03:42:04,181 --> 03:42:05,315
gardens. And that concludes my

6089
03:42:05,315 --> 03:42:08,185
report. Thank you very much.

6090
03:42:08,185 --> 03:42:08,786
MADAM City, Attorney.

6091
03:42:08,786 --> 03:42:11,186
>> Thank you, mayor. No

6092
03:42:12,823 --> 03:42:14,570
reports this evening. Thank

6093
03:42:14,570 --> 03:42:14,692
you public comment. Any member

6094
03:42:14,692 --> 03:42:15,392
of the public in council

6095
03:42:15,392 --> 03:42:18,392
chambers wish to comment the

6096
03:42:18,896 --> 03:42:19,563
report. Seeing none of online.

6097
03:42:19,563 --> 03:42:21,963
Lauren, anybody online with

6098
03:42:22,980 --> 03:42:24,980
her hand raised.

6099
03:42:25,335 --> 03:42:27,735
>> Same here. No takers.

6100
03:42:28,372 --> 03:42:29,440
>> Alright, we'll close public

6101
03:42:29,440 --> 03:42:31,274
comment and go on item 11. Our

6102
03:42:31,274 --> 03:42:32,676
mayor and Councilmembers

6103
03:42:32,676 --> 03:42:33,377
reports any any reports or any

6104
03:42:33,377 --> 03:42:34,450
members of council this

6105
03:42:34,450 --> 03:42:35,746
evening, Ms Rogers, you can

6106
03:42:35,746 --> 03:42:37,746
start us off.

6107
03:42:40,651 --> 03:42:42,887
>> I I will be quick. Wanted

6108
03:42:42,887 --> 03:42:44,789
Srpd in the city departments

6109
03:42:44,789 --> 03:42:47,789
that participated in our trunk

6110
03:42:49,894 --> 03:42:50,761
or treat. It was a lot of fun.

6111
03:42:50,761 --> 03:42:51,462
>> Councilmember MacDonald,

6112
03:42:51,462 --> 03:42:53,862
mayor was there Councilmember

6113
03:42:53,898 --> 03:42:57,234
Ben way Love I think was I the

6114
03:42:57,234 --> 03:43:00,337
only one dress that but either

6115
03:43:00,337 --> 03:43:04,274
way, it was a lot of fun and

6116
03:43:04,274 --> 03:43:04,942
also want to

6117
03:43:04,942 --> 03:43:05,543
>> report that there was a

6118
03:43:05,543 --> 03:43:07,943
lack intact meeting on

6119
03:43:08,813 --> 03:43:10,615
NOVEMBER. Second, it it was

6120
03:43:10,615 --> 03:43:12,615
the last meeting.

6121
03:43:14,585 --> 03:43:15,318
>> For a

6122
03:43:15,318 --> 03:43:17,718
>> supervisor David Rabbit. So

6123
03:43:18,756 --> 03:43:21,756
he was acknowledged along with

6124
03:43:21,826 --> 03:43:24,562
other members of of the whack

6125
03:43:24,562 --> 03:43:26,596
that will not be with us as we

6126
03:43:26,596 --> 03:43:28,996
continue along either because

6127
03:43:30,735 --> 03:43:32,904
they will not be appointed Orr

6128
03:43:32,904 --> 03:43:35,373
that they will not be sitting

6129
03:43:35,373 --> 03:43:37,542
on local Thank them for for

6130
03:43:37,542 --> 03:43:39,942
their service second annual

6131
03:43:44,448 --> 03:43:46,117
tunnels to attack Powers 5 k

6132
03:43:46,117 --> 03:43:50,317
was this past was able to see

6133
03:43:51,722 --> 03:43:54,157
the mayor there stop by. But a

6134
03:43:54,157 --> 03:43:57,757
big thank you to Chad hedge

6135
03:43:58,563 --> 03:43:59,764
our parking manager. And I

6136
03:43:59,764 --> 03:44:02,764
will go into saying that

6137
03:44:02,767 --> 03:44:05,767
tomorrow is Veterans Day and

6138
03:44:05,870 --> 03:44:06,938
at 10 30, we will be meeting

6139
03:44:06,938 --> 03:44:09,374
here at City Hall at the flag

6140
03:44:09,374 --> 03:44:12,974
pole for a flag raising. So

6141
03:44:13,110 --> 03:44:16,110
thank you to our local

6142
03:44:16,147 --> 03:44:17,248
veterans for putting this

6143
03:44:17,248 --> 03:44:20,248
together we will be hearing

6144
03:44:22,453 --> 03:44:23,955
from 3 speakers, 2 of which

6145
03:44:23,955 --> 03:44:27,658
are I very Santa Rosa Fire in

6146
03:44:27,658 --> 03:44:28,259
center of the pd, but they

6147
03:44:28,259 --> 03:44:30,659
will be speaking about

6148
03:44:31,663 --> 03:44:34,650
continued service. So not only

6149
03:44:34,650 --> 03:44:34,798
did they serve in the

6150
03:44:34,798 --> 03:44:36,167
military, an armed forces, but

6151
03:44:36,167 --> 03:44:38,169
they actually continue to come

6152
03:44:38,169 --> 03:44:40,371
back to the community and

6153
03:44:40,371 --> 03:44:41,706
serve. So we would like to

6154
03:44:41,706 --> 03:44:44,106
thank them for speaking

6155
03:44:45,944 --> 03:44:48,344
tomorrow and it. Although

6156
03:44:48,613 --> 03:44:49,914
she's gone. I do want this is

6157
03:44:49,914 --> 03:44:52,617
my last time that I can do

6158
03:44:52,617 --> 03:44:53,184
this. But I remember

6159
03:44:53,184 --> 03:44:54,419
Victoria's Birthday,

6160
03:44:54,419 --> 03:44:56,419
Councilmember Fleming, which

6161
03:44:56,520 --> 03:44:58,456
is tomorrow. Wish her a happy

6162
03:44:58,456 --> 03:45:00,625
birthday because she asked me

6163
03:45:00,625 --> 03:45:03,795
my first year of council. What

6164
03:45:03,795 --> 03:45:04,462
are you doing tomorrow? And I

6165
03:45:04,462 --> 03:45:05,697
said, oh, nothing. And she

6166
03:45:05,697 --> 03:45:09,297
said you're going to come to

6167
03:45:09,668 --> 03:45:10,869
that. The Veterans Day event

6168
03:45:10,869 --> 03:45:13,872
it was at that time that I

6169
03:45:13,872 --> 03:45:15,940
fell in love and cottages kept

6170
03:45:15,940 --> 03:45:17,976
it push in and making sure

6171
03:45:17,976 --> 03:45:19,711
that every year that it is

6172
03:45:19,711 --> 03:45:21,112
just bigger and better and

6173
03:45:21,112 --> 03:45:23,140
greater. So happy birthday.

6174
03:45:23,140 --> 03:45:26,140
Big story of family planning.

6175
03:45:27,285 --> 03:45:28,420
Thank you. MISS McDonald.

6176
03:45:28,420 --> 03:45:29,821
Thank you, mayor. Just a few

6177
03:45:29,821 --> 03:45:31,890
things to report. I want to

6178
03:45:31,890 --> 03:45:33,858
thank Sonoma State for hosting

6179
03:45:33,858 --> 03:45:34,192
the economic development

6180
03:45:34,192 --> 03:45:36,192
class.

6181
03:45:37,796 --> 03:45:38,430
>> the PRESIDENT Of Sonoma

6182
03:45:38,430 --> 03:45:40,732
State had a couple great

6183
03:45:40,732 --> 03:45:41,333
remarks and I love Snapple

6184
03:45:41,333 --> 03:45:43,468
facts. For those of you

6185
03:45:43,468 --> 03:45:45,403
remember that commercial. But

6186
03:45:45,403 --> 03:45:47,803
he said there's 6.5 million

6187
03:45:48,506 --> 03:45:49,440
people in the state of

6188
03:45:49,440 --> 03:45:51,776
California that have started

6189
03:45:51,776 --> 03:45:52,476
on their degree but haven't

6190
03:45:52,476 --> 03:45:54,679
finished yet. And because of

6191
03:45:54,679 --> 03:45:55,380
the debt that they've incurred

6192
03:45:55,380 --> 03:45:56,348
in those student loans, that

6193
03:45:56,348 --> 03:45:56,915
it's actually worse for them

6194
03:45:56,915 --> 03:45:58,884
than if they had just

6195
03:45:58,884 --> 03:46:00,852
graduated high school and had

6196
03:46:00,852 --> 03:46:01,987
a diploma. And one of the

6197
03:46:01,987 --> 03:46:04,890
things that they suggested we

6198
03:46:04,890 --> 03:46:05,657
do is as employers as we

6199
03:46:05,657 --> 03:46:07,826
really commit to helping

6200
03:46:07,826 --> 03:46:09,760
people finish those degrees so

6201
03:46:09,760 --> 03:46:10,495
that they can move on. So I

6202
03:46:10,495 --> 03:46:11,229
just want to thank him for his

6203
03:46:11,229 --> 03:46:13,632
comments and for hosting. That

6204
03:46:13,632 --> 03:46:14,866
was a great event. I along

6205
03:46:14,866 --> 03:46:16,866
with Councilmember Rogers

6206
03:46:19,360 --> 03:46:19,738
Mayor stop as well as

6207
03:46:19,738 --> 03:46:22,138
councilmember our as attended

6208
03:46:23,750 --> 03:46:25,430
the foresees championed for

6209
03:46:25,430 --> 03:46:25,944
children luncheon this year.

6210
03:46:25,944 --> 03:46:28,344
And they raised about

6211
03:46:30,480 --> 03:46:31,160
$141,000. If I recall and just

6212
03:46:31,160 --> 03:46:31,884
want to say thank you for the

6213
03:46:31,884 --> 03:46:34,884
invitation to attend that they

6214
03:46:35,519 --> 03:46:36,588
got some money from some of

6215
03:46:36,588 --> 03:46:38,657
us. I think it's great. Want

6216
03:46:38,657 --> 03:46:41,493
to congratulate the winners of

6217
03:46:41,493 --> 03:46:44,630
that. We met with our federal

6218
03:46:44,630 --> 03:46:46,265
legislative partners this

6219
03:46:46,265 --> 03:46:46,998
morning about the landscape of

6220
03:46:46,998 --> 03:46:49,998
what's going on federally. And

6221
03:46:50,369 --> 03:46:52,771
I want to congratulate our new

6222
03:46:52,771 --> 03:46:53,572
Congress and my choir on his

6223
03:46:53,572 --> 03:46:56,809
win as well as Melanie Jones

6224
03:46:56,809 --> 03:46:57,509
Carter, who will be joining us

6225
03:46:57,509 --> 03:47:01,120
and the new feature on center

6226
03:47:01,120 --> 03:47:03,348
of the City Council. And last

6227
03:47:03,348 --> 03:47:04,116
I want to say thank you to

6228
03:47:04,116 --> 03:47:07,716
Christian who is on my arts

6229
03:47:08,754 --> 03:47:09,955
community. I commissioned for

6230
03:47:09,955 --> 03:47:12,240
taking me out to Howard Park

6231
03:47:12,240 --> 03:47:13,826
to see the monarch butterflies

6232
03:47:13,826 --> 03:47:14,493
while they were there, they're

6233
03:47:14,493 --> 03:47:16,595
giant knew it was really a

6234
03:47:16,595 --> 03:47:17,263
cool thing to go and see

6235
03:47:17,263 --> 03:47:17,996
should maybe go for a walk

6236
03:47:17,996 --> 03:47:22,200
with my pug dog in both of us.

6237
03:47:22,200 --> 03:47:23,235
Want to die. So thank you,

6238
03:47:23,235 --> 03:47:24,169
Kristen, for getting me out

6239
03:47:24,169 --> 03:47:25,537
there and and thank you the

6240
03:47:25,537 --> 03:47:28,537
Arts Committee for having that

6241
03:47:31,544 --> 03:47:33,770
our part for us enjoy. Thank

6242
03:47:33,770 --> 03:47:35,477
Are already just 3, 3 super

6243
03:47:35,848 --> 03:47:36,849
quick 3 super quick ones for

6244
03:47:36,849 --> 03:47:37,750
me.

6245
03:47:37,750 --> 03:47:39,718
>> So as we talked about

6246
03:47:39,718 --> 03:47:40,419
earlier center was and leaves

6247
03:47:40,419 --> 03:47:43,255
leads the east, the region in

6248
03:47:43,255 --> 03:47:45,570
terms of housing and immigrant

6249
03:47:45,570 --> 03:47:47,126
community and our emergency

6250
03:47:47,126 --> 03:47:48,930
response. But there's a 4th

6251
03:47:48,930 --> 03:47:48,694
way in which we meet our

6252
03:47:48,694 --> 03:47:49,327
community, which became

6253
03:47:49,327 --> 03:47:50,763
apparent this week at the

6254
03:47:50,763 --> 03:47:53,163
Sonoma Clean Power Board

6255
03:47:53,666 --> 03:47:55,735
meeting where clean power will

6256
03:47:55,735 --> 03:47:56,535
now be forming and sharing a

6257
03:47:56,535 --> 03:47:58,935
statewide group focused on

6258
03:47:59,672 --> 03:48:00,339
pushing for geothermal

6259
03:48:00,339 --> 03:48:01,600
exploration with particular

6260
03:48:01,600 --> 03:48:01,639
reference to our region. We

6261
03:48:01,639 --> 03:48:02,341
already have the world's

6262
03:48:02,341 --> 03:48:03,800
largest geothermal field and

6263
03:48:03,800 --> 03:48:06,608
want to do more. And some

6264
03:48:06,745 --> 03:48:07,446
clean power's leading the way.

6265
03:48:07,446 --> 03:48:08,470
And it's amazing that that it

6266
03:48:08,470 --> 03:48:08,781
is, you know, here, our

6267
03:48:08,781 --> 03:48:11,781
region, our city, that helping

6268
03:48:12,218 --> 03:48:13,686
to push that forward. And then

6269
03:48:13,686 --> 03:48:14,654
secondly, have posted a week

6270
03:48:14,654 --> 03:48:16,589
ago here in council chambers,

6271
03:48:16,589 --> 03:48:18,589
the young entrepreneur

6272
03:48:18,657 --> 03:48:20,226
showcase thanks to staff for

6273
03:48:20,226 --> 03:48:21,359
helping to put that together.

6274
03:48:21,359 --> 03:48:22,428
We had I forget how many

6275
03:48:22,428 --> 03:48:24,828
students, young students who

6276
03:48:25,697 --> 03:48:26,432
had viable business is really

6277
03:48:26,432 --> 03:48:28,334
impressive, viable businesses.

6278
03:48:28,334 --> 03:48:29,680
They came. They gave their

6279
03:48:29,680 --> 03:48:29,768
pitch. They received some some

6280
03:48:29,768 --> 03:48:33,272
seed money in return to help

6281
03:48:33,272 --> 03:48:33,973
them grow their businesses. It

6282
03:48:33,973 --> 03:48:34,940
was it's exactly what we need

6283
03:48:34,940 --> 03:48:37,940
the community and thanks again

6284
03:48:38,878 --> 03:48:39,845
to the and made that possible.

6285
03:48:39,845 --> 03:48:40,546
And then finally, just a

6286
03:48:40,546 --> 03:48:42,915
general saying so I'm sure is

6287
03:48:42,915 --> 03:48:43,649
shared by everybody here on

6288
03:48:43,649 --> 03:48:45,284
the Thank you to the residents

6289
03:48:45,284 --> 03:48:47,620
of Santa Rosa for supporting

6290
03:48:47,620 --> 03:48:49,188
measure out. We've got that.

6291
03:48:49,188 --> 03:48:50,523
We've got the pd here in the

6292
03:48:50,523 --> 03:48:51,524
House by all means what we

6293
03:48:51,524 --> 03:48:52,325
want that to be want our

6294
03:48:52,325 --> 03:48:53,659
residents to know how

6295
03:48:53,659 --> 03:48:54,359
appreciative we are of that of

6296
03:48:54,359 --> 03:48:56,529
the community's trust in the

6297
03:48:56,529 --> 03:48:58,598
leadership here in the city

6298
03:48:58,598 --> 03:48:59,632
and their awareness of what

6299
03:48:59,632 --> 03:49:00,700
measure Al that funding will

6300
03:49:00,700 --> 03:49:02,568
do to maintain public services

6301
03:49:02,568 --> 03:49:03,936
and to keep center is a

6302
03:49:03,936 --> 03:49:06,405
strong. So just allowed thanks

6303
03:49:06,405 --> 03:49:07,774
to to all of our residents.

6304
03:49:07,774 --> 03:49:10,610
And with that, we will go to

6305
03:49:10,610 --> 03:49:11,277
public comment on our mayor.

6306
03:49:11,277 --> 03:49:11,911
Councilmembers reports. Are

6307
03:49:11,911 --> 03:49:13,112
there any members of the

6308
03:49:13,112 --> 03:49:17,312
public wish to speak on any of

6309
03:49:21,540 --> 03:49:21,920
those items? Dwayne us off.

6310
03:49:21,920 --> 03:49:24,290
>> Thank former Mayor Natalie

6311
03:49:24,290 --> 03:49:27,290
Rogers for comments just a

6312
03:49:28,160 --> 03:49:28,895
moment ago about Veterans Day.

6313
03:49:28,895 --> 03:49:30,196
And the effort says she's been

6314
03:49:30,196 --> 03:49:32,765
putting forward for the last

6315
03:49:32,765 --> 03:49:34,767
few years. I really like to

6316
03:49:34,767 --> 03:49:36,350
also kind of re emphasize a

6317
03:49:36,350 --> 03:49:37,904
couple things and it starts

6318
03:49:37,904 --> 03:49:38,971
10:30am, in the morning out

6319
03:49:38,971 --> 03:49:42,542
there and that they raise the

6320
03:49:42,542 --> 03:49:43,241
flag 11. One of the best

6321
03:49:43,241 --> 03:49:45,177
things, Vols, if you'll open

6322
03:49:45,177 --> 03:49:48,181
up the toilets a 10. There's a

6323
03:49:48,181 --> 03:49:48,782
lot of folks that come here

6324
03:49:48,782 --> 03:49:50,950
and they don't know the

6325
03:49:50,950 --> 03:49:53,350
combination to those toilets

6326
03:49:53,620 --> 03:49:54,621
over there and then also

6327
03:49:54,621 --> 03:49:55,288
unlock the electric boxes over

6328
03:49:55,288 --> 03:49:56,823
here so we can make sure we

6329
03:49:56,823 --> 03:50:00,590
got the tower and then I

6330
03:50:00,590 --> 03:50:00,727
locked the flag poles.

6331
03:50:00,727 --> 03:50:01,294
Sometimes that doesn't get

6332
03:50:01,294 --> 03:50:02,561
done. We want to have

6333
03:50:02,561 --> 03:50:04,961
everything is smooth as

6334
03:50:05,632 --> 03:50:06,332
possible because lie. Former

6335
03:50:06,332 --> 03:50:08,340
Mayor Rogers says she wants a

6336
03:50:08,340 --> 03:50:10,136
bigger and better and this is

6337
03:50:10,136 --> 03:50:11,738
the way it's going to get

6338
03:50:11,738 --> 03:50:12,372
there. So thank you for doing

6339
03:50:12,372 --> 03:50:14,140
that. Thank you for your

6340
03:50:14,140 --> 03:50:17,140
report. Rogers. Thank you to

6341
03:50:22,615 --> 03:50:24,351
Wayne Michael.

6342
03:50:24,351 --> 03:50:25,180
>> Some claim Con job urge

6343
03:50:25,180 --> 03:50:27,454
everybody talked out of was

6344
03:50:27,454 --> 03:50:31,540
cooked up by some. Covid Thai

6345
03:50:31,524 --> 03:50:32,224
people who wanted to somehow

6346
03:50:32,224 --> 03:50:35,224
make money off you know,

6347
03:50:35,795 --> 03:50:38,195
electricity and settlement Pg

6348
03:50:40,330 --> 03:50:40,700
e manage better people not to

6349
03:50:40,700 --> 03:50:43,736
And second Lien Metro was a

6350
03:50:43,736 --> 03:50:46,736
con job. His primary intent

6351
03:50:47,941 --> 03:50:49,242
was to. Keep a lot of cops on

6352
03:50:49,242 --> 03:50:49,943
the payroll so they can chase

6353
03:50:49,943 --> 03:50:52,943
around after Nord norge. Hey,

6354
03:50:53,513 --> 03:50:55,913
news. Distributing the drugs

6355
03:50:58,652 --> 03:50:59,486
and all that stuff. 9 fights

6356
03:50:59,486 --> 03:51:03,860
you know, ghost guns and all

6357
03:51:05,250 --> 03:51:05,692
nonsense. Really? It wasn't

6358
03:51:05,692 --> 03:51:08,692
needed. It could have hand

6359
03:51:09,262 --> 03:51:11,662
with a. Sound budgetary

6360
03:51:11,998 --> 03:51:13,300
decisions to type the year.

6361
03:51:13,300 --> 03:51:15,700
Previous city manager proposal

6362
03:51:17,471 --> 03:51:18,438
you refuse to enact. So I

6363
03:51:18,438 --> 03:51:22,380
would say that the voters and

6364
03:51:23,409 --> 03:51:24,211
there's some cells. They

6365
03:51:24,211 --> 03:51:26,380
showed a lot of common sense.

6366
03:51:26,380 --> 03:51:29,216
And now you've got sales tax

6367
03:51:29,216 --> 03:51:30,117
to 10 and a half percent,

6368
03:51:30,117 --> 03:51:30,784
which is really harm small

6369
03:51:30,784 --> 03:51:32,784
businesses, restaurants and

6370
03:51:34,354 --> 03:51:35,856
all kind of things. So I

6371
03:51:35,856 --> 03:51:36,489
disagree with virtually

6372
03:51:36,489 --> 03:51:37,224
everything that was said

6373
03:51:37,224 --> 03:51:40,824
during council member in a new

6374
03:51:42,863 --> 03:51:43,663
report. All right. Thank you,

6375
03:51:43,663 --> 03:51:44,331
Michel. Anybody else in

6376
03:51:44,331 --> 03:51:46,731
council chambers. Please go

6377
03:51:47,467 --> 03:51:48,801
ahead.

6378
03:51:48,801 --> 03:51:49,936
>> Good evening. Thank you so

6379
03:51:49,936 --> 03:51:51,905
much. I just I'm confused

6380
03:51:51,905 --> 03:51:53,974
about the comment I heard

6381
03:51:53,974 --> 03:51:56,374
earlier about the limitations

6382
03:51:56,476 --> 03:51:58,612
for city council to respond to

6383
03:51:58,612 --> 03:51:59,980
your citizens. I've actually

6384
03:51:59,980 --> 03:52:02,315
seen it. I've seen comments

6385
03:52:02,315 --> 03:52:04,217
being responded to in the past

6386
03:52:04,217 --> 03:52:06,253
and these council reports are

6387
03:52:06,253 --> 03:52:08,921
seemed like as far as how the

6388
03:52:08,921 --> 03:52:09,489
agenda goes and what your

6389
03:52:09,489 --> 03:52:10,224
rules are, unless I'm

6390
03:52:10,224 --> 03:52:12,559
mistaken. That's the place for

6391
03:52:12,559 --> 03:52:15,280
you to respond to comments

6392
03:52:15,280 --> 03:52:16,730
from from the public. So many

6393
03:52:16,730 --> 03:52:17,831
other city council's take this

6394
03:52:17,831 --> 03:52:19,266
approach and of course, you

6395
03:52:19,266 --> 03:52:22,866
are a city council's so you

6396
03:52:23,703 --> 03:52:24,905
can make the rules and for

6397
03:52:24,905 --> 03:52:26,390
more interaction, more direct

6398
03:52:26,390 --> 03:52:27,400
response to your citizens,

6399
03:52:27,400 --> 03:52:28,942
which is why we come to these

6400
03:52:28,942 --> 03:52:31,942
meetings in the first place.

6401
03:52:32,980 --> 03:52:33,680
We used to have 3 minutes. I

6402
03:52:33,680 --> 03:52:35,115
just had a minute in order to

6403
03:52:35,115 --> 03:52:37,818
share my thoughts with you on

6404
03:52:37,818 --> 03:52:39,853
a really momentous moment.

6405
03:52:39,853 --> 03:52:41,121
Just not enough time that I've

6406
03:52:41,121 --> 03:52:44,121
been sitting on this meeting

6407
03:52:45,859 --> 03:52:46,459
since it started 4. So yeah, I

6408
03:52:46,459 --> 03:52:47,760
jumped out of 4 and was

6409
03:52:47,760 --> 03:52:48,896
listening. And so I only got a

6410
03:52:48,896 --> 03:52:51,665
minute to talk. So I think we

6411
03:52:51,665 --> 03:52:52,933
could do better. I think you

6412
03:52:52,933 --> 03:52:54,635
can the rules, whatever it is

6413
03:52:54,635 --> 03:52:58,138
you need to do. But we'd love

6414
03:52:58,138 --> 03:52:58,806
to hear responses during your

6415
03:52:58,806 --> 03:53:01,206
city Council reports. Thank

6416
03:53:01,475 --> 03:53:04,475
you. Thank you. Anybody else

6417
03:53:05,779 --> 03:53:06,413
in council chambers.

6418
03:53:06,413 --> 03:53:07,114
>> Seeing none. We'll go

6419
03:53:07,114 --> 03:53:09,514
online. Born anybody online.

6420
03:53:09,516 --> 03:53:12,516
With her hand raised. No

6421
03:53:13,520 --> 03:53:14,721
mayor, no one's here. Thank.

6422
03:53:14,721 --> 03:53:16,490
Thank you, Lauren. Alright,

6423
03:53:16,490 --> 03:53:17,910
we'll close public comment and

6424
03:53:17,910 --> 03:53:19,460
move on to item 12. Our

6425
03:53:19,460 --> 03:53:20,127
approval of minutes. Are there

6426
03:53:20,127 --> 03:53:24,298
any edits to our one set of

6427
03:53:24,298 --> 03:53:24,965
minutes? All right. What a

6428
03:53:24,965 --> 03:53:27,365
public comment. Any public

6429
03:53:28,401 --> 03:53:30,938
comment on the minutes. In

6430
03:53:30,938 --> 03:53:31,872
council chambers seeing none.

6431
03:53:31,872 --> 03:53:32,907
We'll go online warning on

6432
03:53:32,907 --> 03:53:33,640
their hands anyone in line

6433
03:53:33,640 --> 03:53:37,240
with her hand raised with with

6434
03:53:37,877 --> 03:53:38,545
comments on the minutes. Close

6435
03:53:38,545 --> 03:53:41,148
public comment and we adopt

6436
03:53:41,148 --> 03:53:42,820
the minutes as submitted. All

6437
03:53:42,820 --> 03:53:45,850
right. Which brings us to our

6438
03:53:45,850 --> 03:53:45,752
consent items. We have items,

6439
03:53:45,752 --> 03:53:47,752
13.1 through 13.5 on the

6440
03:53:48,355 --> 03:53:49,589
agenda this evening. Are there

6441
03:53:49,589 --> 03:53:50,124
any questions on any of these

6442
03:53:50,124 --> 03:53:52,524
items looking to my

6443
03:53:54,128 --> 03:53:55,960
colleagues. Seeing none over

6444
03:53:55,960 --> 03:53:56,463
the public comment any members

6445
03:53:56,463 --> 03:53:57,131
of the public like to comment

6446
03:53:57,131 --> 03:54:00,501
any of these items, MR. De

6447
03:54:00,501 --> 03:54:01,201
Wit, you have the floor.

6448
03:54:01,201 --> 03:54:04,705
>> My name is joined with I'm

6449
03:54:04,705 --> 03:54:07,105
from Roseland. This situation

6450
03:54:08,750 --> 03:54:10,110
of 13.4 where you use the

6451
03:54:10,110 --> 03:54:11,846
community development block

6452
03:54:11,846 --> 03:54:12,947
grants and the dri think

6453
03:54:12,947 --> 03:54:15,347
stands for the disaster

6454
03:54:16,984 --> 03:54:17,685
recovery. So a lot of folks in

6455
03:54:17,685 --> 03:54:19,787
the community understand how

6456
03:54:19,787 --> 03:54:21,956
such a large amount of money

6457
03:54:21,956 --> 03:54:23,957
has been coming through the

6458
03:54:23,957 --> 03:54:24,692
city. But then we're not seen

6459
03:54:24,692 --> 03:54:27,692
it actually going towards some

6460
03:54:28,863 --> 03:54:30,565
of the things we feel need to

6461
03:54:30,565 --> 03:54:33,565
be improved if you will

6462
03:54:36,504 --> 03:54:37,672
recovered. The fire was 9

6463
03:54:37,672 --> 03:54:38,473
years ago. There's a lot of

6464
03:54:38,473 --> 03:54:41,275
stuff that didn't get done.

6465
03:54:41,275 --> 03:54:42,110
And a lot of places during

6466
03:54:42,110 --> 03:54:44,510
this time. And 35 million

6467
03:54:44,612 --> 03:54:48,316
dollars is a lot of money and

6468
03:54:48,316 --> 03:54:51,316
we don't really and accounting

6469
03:54:54,689 --> 03:54:55,423
of I haven't found

6470
03:54:55,423 --> 03:54:56,991
>> item by item on a team that

6471
03:54:56,991 --> 03:54:59,594
shows us where the money's

6472
03:54:59,594 --> 03:55:02,563
been spent and how this stuff

6473
03:55:02,563 --> 03:55:04,765
goes. So I'd like for you

6474
03:55:04,765 --> 03:55:05,433
perhaps put together better

6475
03:55:05,433 --> 03:55:06,100
reports for the public to

6476
03:55:06,100 --> 03:55:08,500
understand how these large

6477
03:55:08,569 --> 03:55:11,569
amounts of money are being

6478
03:55:13,107 --> 03:55:13,775
utilized. Thank you kindly.

6479
03:55:13,775 --> 03:55:14,542
>> Thank you to Wayne. Are

6480
03:55:14,542 --> 03:55:15,243
there any other members of the

6481
03:55:15,243 --> 03:55:18,243
public would like in council

6482
03:55:19,470 --> 03:55:19,814
chambers would like to speak?

6483
03:55:19,814 --> 03:55:20,515
Seeing none. We'll go online

6484
03:55:20,515 --> 03:55:22,217
learning. Is there anybody in

6485
03:55:22,217 --> 03:55:25,217
line with their hands raised?

6486
03:55:26,454 --> 03:55:27,155
Negative? Alright, we'll close

6487
03:55:27,155 --> 03:55:27,855
public comment and I'm going

6488
03:55:27,855 --> 03:55:31,455
to work to MISS Been wheeless

6489
03:55:32,994 --> 03:55:35,663
from Ocean. I move to approve

6490
03:55:35,663 --> 03:55:36,464
consent items. 13.1.

6491
03:55:36,464 --> 03:55:38,464
>> Through 13.5 as presented

6492
03:55:39,668 --> 03:55:40,268
by staff.

6493
03:55:40,268 --> 03:55:42,270
>> All right. We have a

6494
03:55:42,270 --> 03:55:43,604
motion. We have a second by

6495
03:55:43,604 --> 03:55:44,339
MISS Rogers and city clerk.

6496
03:55:44,339 --> 03:55:47,939
You can call the vote whenever

6497
03:55:49,311 --> 03:55:51,711
you're reading. Thank you.

6498
03:55:52,513 --> 03:55:53,181
Mayor Councilmember Rogers,

6499
03:55:53,181 --> 03:55:55,181
Councilmember MacDonald, I

6500
03:55:56,585 --> 03:55:57,185
councilmember Fleming.

6501
03:55:57,185 --> 03:55:59,185
Councilmember Ben Yes,

6502
03:56:01,423 --> 03:56:02,657
Councilmember Alvarez. I vice

6503
03:56:02,657 --> 03:56:04,426
Mayor Crappie Maher, stop. Let

6504
03:56:04,426 --> 03:56:05,126
the record show this 5

6505
03:56:05,126 --> 03:56:07,526
affirmative votes and council

6506
03:56:08,797 --> 03:56:11,197
members. Vice Cookie and

6507
03:56:11,666 --> 03:56:13,666
Councilmember Fleming absent.

6508
03:56:14,669 --> 03:56:16,300
Thank you. MADAM City Clerk.

6509
03:56:16,300 --> 03:56:16,771
Alright, we were I would just

6510
03:56:16,771 --> 03:56:18,139
note for the public that item

6511
03:56:18,139 --> 03:56:18,840
7 there is there is one

6512
03:56:18,840 --> 03:56:19,440
written communication

6513
03:56:19,440 --> 03:56:20,410
regarding our quarterly

6514
03:56:20,410 --> 03:56:21,910
boards, commissions and

6515
03:56:21,910 --> 03:56:23,430
committees attendants report.

6516
03:56:23,430 --> 03:56:23,779
>> We move on to our final

6517
03:56:23,779 --> 03:56:25,780
item for the evening. Our

6518
03:56:25,780 --> 03:56:26,915
public comment on non agenda

6519
03:56:26,915 --> 03:56:28,450
matters. Are there any members

6520
03:56:28,450 --> 03:56:29,918
of the public who would like

6521
03:56:29,918 --> 03:56:31,119
to make comment on any items

6522
03:56:31,119 --> 03:56:34,122
not listed on the agenda, MR.

6523
03:56:34,122 --> 03:56:35,223
Do it. You can start as usual

6524
03:56:35,223 --> 03:56:35,991
>> yes, thank you, sir. I

6525
03:56:35,991 --> 03:56:38,991
appreciated my name is Dwayne

6526
03:56:40,195 --> 03:56:41,962
Do with it. I'm from Roseland.

6527
03:56:41,962 --> 03:56:42,597
It's nice to see in the

6528
03:56:42,597 --> 03:56:44,966
description of the public

6529
03:56:44,966 --> 03:56:46,802
comment on this item is that

6530
03:56:46,802 --> 03:56:50,720
it could be up to 3 minutes

6531
03:56:50,720 --> 03:56:52,174
and for decades, that was the

6532
03:56:52,174 --> 03:56:54,574
standard that this council 3

6533
03:56:55,277 --> 03:56:58,277
minutes for comments from the

6534
03:56:58,413 --> 03:57:00,813
public on various items.

6535
03:57:00,915 --> 03:57:03,915
Recently, it's been changed by

6536
03:57:05,453 --> 03:57:06,321
Fiona, if you will. Somebody

6537
03:57:06,321 --> 03:57:07,956
that's too long. 3 minutes for

6538
03:57:07,956 --> 03:57:10,956
those people to speak. And

6539
03:57:12,394 --> 03:57:13,127
then. While things were

6540
03:57:13,127 --> 03:57:16,727
happening in the last few mint

6541
03:57:16,765 --> 03:57:18,634
meetings. Comments were made

6542
03:57:18,634 --> 03:57:22,234
about. We had time to kill.

6543
03:57:22,870 --> 03:57:23,605
That. The people but the dies

6544
03:57:23,605 --> 03:57:26,808
down there were like, well, we

6545
03:57:26,808 --> 03:57:27,543
got we got time. We've got

6546
03:57:27,543 --> 03:57:28,210
extra time. So we'll just talk

6547
03:57:28,210 --> 03:57:31,210
about this year. We'll talk

6548
03:57:31,313 --> 03:57:34,810
about that. And that kind of

6549
03:57:34,810 --> 03:57:37,486
grates up on people. They look

6550
03:57:37,486 --> 03:57:38,186
at it like wait a second.

6551
03:57:38,186 --> 03:57:40,521
Here's the folks who are paid

6552
03:57:40,521 --> 03:57:43,580
to be here. The public comes

6553
03:57:43,580 --> 03:57:45,828
and sits for hours. To try to

6554
03:57:45,828 --> 03:57:46,528
participate on things. And

6555
03:57:46,528 --> 03:57:47,620
then you limit the amount of

6556
03:57:47,620 --> 03:57:49,462
time that they can

6557
03:57:50,990 --> 03:57:51,466
participate. That's actually a

6558
03:57:51,466 --> 03:57:53,735
bit of a smack in the face to

6559
03:57:53,735 --> 03:57:55,504
him. You MAY not see that

6560
03:57:55,504 --> 03:57:58,474
because your busy thinking we

6561
03:57:58,474 --> 03:58:00,175
have work to do and it's up to

6562
03:58:00,175 --> 03:58:02,844
us. Well, actually, it's up to

6563
03:58:02,844 --> 03:58:04,713
the voters to the taxpayers,

6564
03:58:04,713 --> 03:58:06,281
the people who just basically

6565
03:58:06,281 --> 03:58:09,418
gave you a free ride on some

6566
03:58:09,418 --> 03:58:11,530
big money coming up now. And

6567
03:58:11,530 --> 03:58:12,488
you didn't really have that

6568
03:58:12,488 --> 03:58:14,888
many discussions at length

6569
03:58:15,291 --> 03:58:16,324
about this. So I'd like you to

6570
03:58:16,324 --> 03:58:19,295
see the opportunity to put 3

6571
03:58:19,295 --> 03:58:20,562
minutes back in there. There's

6572
03:58:20,562 --> 03:58:22,397
no good reason not to have 3

6573
03:58:22,397 --> 03:58:23,766
minutes for public comment.

6574
03:58:23,766 --> 03:58:26,702
The people from the public to

6575
03:58:26,702 --> 03:58:28,200
come here should be respected.

6576
03:58:28,200 --> 03:58:28,804
There's almost a cavalier

6577
03:58:28,804 --> 03:58:31,540
disregard on the part of some

6578
03:58:31,540 --> 03:58:32,408
of the elected officials here

6579
03:58:32,408 --> 03:58:34,510
and some of the paid staff are

6580
03:58:34,510 --> 03:58:35,211
doing really well financially

6581
03:58:35,211 --> 03:58:38,211
that like, oh, you're bother

6582
03:58:39,215 --> 03:58:41,683
to us. Thanks to Wayne. Are

6583
03:58:41,683 --> 03:58:42,384
there any other members of

6584
03:58:42,384 --> 03:58:43,850
public would like to speak?

6585
03:58:43,850 --> 03:58:45,788
Michael, are you making your

6586
03:58:45,788 --> 03:58:47,788
way to podium?

6587
03:58:50,250 --> 03:58:51,660
>> Thank you I would like to

6588
03:58:51,660 --> 03:58:52,628
see in a county of how much

6589
03:58:52,628 --> 03:58:55,280
police real resources are

6590
03:58:55,664 --> 03:58:58,434
going to chase you around the.

6591
03:58:58,434 --> 03:59:01,434
Gang members responding to a

6592
03:59:03,472 --> 03:59:04,730
fight Knife encounters and

6593
03:59:04,730 --> 03:59:06,473
shootings to their gang

6594
03:59:09,444 --> 03:59:10,145
related. I think public would

6595
03:59:10,145 --> 03:59:12,615
be shocked to to the level of

6596
03:59:12,615 --> 03:59:13,249
gang activity in Santa Rosa.

6597
03:59:13,249 --> 03:59:16,249
How much public funds are

6598
03:59:18,487 --> 03:59:19,221
being. Directed towards it.

6599
03:59:19,221 --> 03:59:22,821
You know, and this just really

6600
03:59:23,590 --> 03:59:23,793
getting worse. I want point

6601
03:59:23,793 --> 03:59:27,393
out that I submitted a written

6602
03:59:29,164 --> 03:59:29,865
online. Public comment and I'm

6603
03:59:29,865 --> 03:59:32,435
surprised you order me to not

6604
03:59:32,435 --> 03:59:34,704
speak. Since I did submit

6605
03:59:34,704 --> 03:59:37,704
Sunday driving. But what I

6606
03:59:38,975 --> 03:59:40,442
submitted was censored. And it

6607
03:59:40,442 --> 03:59:41,143
had to do was like the police

6608
03:59:41,143 --> 03:59:43,543
response to Montgomery High

6609
03:59:46,182 --> 03:59:47,282
School in OCTOBER. 20th.

6610
03:59:47,282 --> 03:59:48,451
Massive number of police

6611
03:59:48,451 --> 03:59:51,451
officers were sent there. And

6612
03:59:52,288 --> 03:59:52,922
the reason that goes on

6613
03:59:52,922 --> 03:59:55,322
Montgomery High School is

6614
03:59:55,524 --> 03:59:57,924
infested with Norte Angels.

6615
03:59:58,795 --> 03:59:59,662
And think they own the place.

6616
03:59:59,662 --> 04:00:01,464
And they're just constantly

6617
04:00:01,464 --> 04:00:02,365
getting into fights. And I

6618
04:00:02,365 --> 04:00:05,965
included the now a couple of

6619
04:00:07,437 --> 04:00:10,437
pictures of presumably one of

6620
04:00:12,542 --> 04:00:13,743
these gang affiliated Usu You

6621
04:00:13,743 --> 04:00:14,444
know, Cotton caught on video

6622
04:00:14,444 --> 04:00:17,444
fighting in front of school.

6623
04:00:19,916 --> 04:00:20,516
You And they're just crowd

6624
04:00:20,516 --> 04:00:21,250
around and they're like

6625
04:00:21,250 --> 04:00:22,818
cheering them on and enjoy it.

6626
04:00:22,818 --> 04:00:25,855
And all that. You know, the

6627
04:00:25,855 --> 04:00:28,855
idea that we're spending. So

6628
04:00:29,759 --> 04:00:30,426
much public resources, Joey is

6629
04:00:30,426 --> 04:00:32,826
just ridiculous and shows

6630
04:00:36,699 --> 04:00:37,367
total lack of leadership.

6631
04:00:37,367 --> 04:00:37,967
Always uplifting thank you,

6632
04:00:37,967 --> 04:00:38,601
Michel. Anybody else in

6633
04:00:38,601 --> 04:00:40,703
council chambers wish to

6634
04:00:40,703 --> 04:00:41,337
speak.

6635
04:00:41,337 --> 04:00:43,737
>> Seeing none. We'll go

6636
04:00:44,541 --> 04:00:46,541
online. Lorne.

6637
04:00:47,577 --> 04:00:48,578
>> Our zoom is gone. Quiet.

6638
04:00:48,578 --> 04:00:49,245
Mayor, when folks we are

6639
04:00:49,245 --> 04:00:51,245
officially adjourned. Thank