1 00:08:38,050 --> 00:08:38,930 Good morning. 2 00:08:41,130 --> 00:09:09,010 It is Thursday, August 27th, 2026 at 831 AM, and we're here for the Board of County Commissioner's Commission regular meeting. As always, we start our meetings with prayer and a pledge. If you have an telephone or electronic device, if you'll just put that on vibrator silent, just so does it disturb the meeting and it's respectful of everyone else. We've got Pastor Craig Bourne of risen savior. If you're on church here this morning, he's going to give us the invocation, and then we'll do the pledge immediately after, and I'll lead us in the pledge. 3 00:09:09,010 --> 00:09:10,250 if you'll stand as able. 4 00:09:13,650 --> 00:09:15,350 Thank you, commissioners. 5 00:09:18,210 --> 00:09:20,390 Appreciate the opportunity to be able to share God's word 6 00:09:20,390 --> 00:09:21,210 with us this morning. 7 00:09:21,350 --> 00:09:24,590 Today, you're going to walk through a bunch of issues. 8 00:09:25,610 --> 00:09:28,270 That walk is going to mean that each issue gets presented. 9 00:09:28,310 --> 00:09:30,950 And there's time for slow and methodical review. 10 00:09:31,430 --> 00:09:35,490 The details of both sides get presented questions, 11 00:09:35,750 --> 00:09:39,530 get asked, and that walk will even include time 12 00:09:39,530 --> 00:09:40,990 for citizen comments. 13 00:09:41,930 --> 00:09:46,290 And then the walk will finish, and the decision will be made. 14 00:09:47,650 --> 00:09:53,630 Citizens expect commissioners to take that walk seriously, though, they let the issues 15 00:09:53,630 --> 00:09:58,510 come forward, they're patiently here both sides, and when they must make a decision 16 00:09:58,510 --> 00:10:02,190 they'll strive to do it as justly and fairly as possible. 17 00:10:03,750 --> 00:10:08,810 Citizens want commissioners to listen to issues and make decisions, realizing the truly 18 00:10:08,810 --> 00:10:15,270 important work they have been given by the citizens, that way when commissioners act, they 19 00:10:15,270 --> 00:10:23,370 act with humility. It might not be on today's agenda, but it's a, it's a, it's a rock 20 00:10:23,370 --> 00:10:30,610 that God calls everyone to, it's a rock with him. God also invites slow mathematical review of what 21 00:10:30,610 --> 00:10:37,370 he says about himself about our lives and about the future. God presents the details of his plan 22 00:10:37,370 --> 00:10:44,650 for your rescue, and invites questions to be asked. God wants every single person close to 23 00:10:44,650 --> 00:10:50,810 him walking through this life to its finish, walking and learning to love the mercy 24 00:10:50,810 --> 00:10:59,330 God shows in Jesus Christ, walking humbly with God, who is greater by far. And acting like 25 00:10:59,330 --> 00:11:09,310 who are made for an eternity beyond this world, God calls you and me and everyone to walk with him. 26 00:11:09,690 --> 00:11:18,270 The Word of God for you and everyone to consider before this commissioners meeting from Micah chapter 6 verse 8. 27 00:11:18,270 --> 00:11:26,430 And what does the Lord require of you to act justly, and to love mercy, and to walk 28 00:11:26,430 --> 00:11:30,170 humbly with your God, amen. 29 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:35,300 Please show me in the pledge. 30 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:42,260 I pledge allegiance to your flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for 31 00:11:42,260 --> 00:11:48,920 which stands, one nation, under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 32 00:11:53,140 --> 00:11:54,460 Pastor, thank you for being here this morning. 33 00:11:54,460 --> 00:11:55,840 we appreciate your message. 34 00:12:00,270 --> 00:12:02,310 All right, gentlemen, I'll start to my right this morning. 35 00:12:02,930 --> 00:12:08,670 There are any changes to the agenda. All right, we'll accept the agenda as presented. 36 00:12:09,650 --> 00:12:12,630 Are there any communion announcements? I'll start to my left with Commissioner Smith, anything? 37 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:23,660 Tonight, first Division 1, UWF football game. So that'll be that'll be exciting tonight. 38 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:30,520 It's called us a long journey for University of West Florida and that's a culmination of a 39 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:38,760 a lot of hard work from a lot of past in current leaders, so exciting, exciting times there. 40 00:12:39,340 --> 00:12:42,740 Yeah, Commissioner Rale was given President Diaz a hard time. He said, hey, are you going 41 00:12:42,740 --> 00:12:47,720 to come to our first D1 game? I said, we have a zoning meeting. That's what we just can't do it. 42 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,660 Can't be in two places alone. But yeah, it's exciting. Good news for our community. Anything? 43 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:59,100 All right. All right. So we'll move on. We've got a public hearing scheduled. 44 00:13:00,560 --> 00:13:04,540 at nine. So we'll move on to public forum 45 00:13:07,230 --> 00:13:13,390 and I've got Barbara Redden. If anyone that hasn't 46 00:13:13,390 --> 00:13:16,970 come to public form before, when you approach, if you just push, there's a little button on the 47 00:13:16,970 --> 00:13:20,610 base of the microphone. When that turns green, the microphone is live. 48 00:13:28,190 --> 00:13:29,810 Good morning everybody. My name is 49 00:13:29,810 --> 00:13:35,730 Barbara Redden. I live at 5781 Yucca Drive. The reason for my appearance today is because I've been 50 00:13:35,730 --> 00:13:42,150 originally working to get speed tables put on our road and the parallel road to us 51 00:13:42,150 --> 00:13:47,410 packed a little bit closer by side and what's the street again? It's 52 00:13:47,410 --> 00:13:51,510 yet the drive and the other road that's involved is cactus drive which is 53 00:13:51,510 --> 00:13:56,510 parallel to it. It runs into a brand new subdivision that D.R. Horton has built 54 00:13:56,510 --> 00:13:59,950 too many homes on and there's too much traffic on the road. 55 00:14:04,170 --> 00:14:05,250 They did a road 56 00:14:05,250 --> 00:14:11,330 and driving 59 miles an hour on my street that's 15 miles an hour is the speed limit. 57 00:14:12,150 --> 00:14:16,650 There was another person driving 56 miles an hour during the 11 to 12 o'clock hour in the 58 00:14:16,650 --> 00:14:24,710 morning on my street at 50. It was just speed limits 15 miles an hour. I have a petition that's 59 00:14:24,710 --> 00:14:30,470 signed and you have in front of you a map that I'm going to refer to. I got 100% of the people on 60 00:14:30,470 --> 00:14:36,590 drive to sign with the petition to get the speed bumps put in. I've been diligently trying to meet 61 00:14:36,590 --> 00:14:41,870 all my neighbors on cactus drive. I didn't know any of them before now, and if you hold the 62 00:14:41,870 --> 00:14:47,990 map like this, I'll read East is at the top, West is at the bottom, we'll have a long boulevard 63 00:14:47,990 --> 00:14:55,370 is, and the DR, Horton subdivision is at the East side. People drive down this road way too fast. 64 00:14:56,550 --> 00:14:59,970 I'm going to be incapacitated and handicapped. 65 00:15:00,110 --> 00:15:06,110 After my knee replacement in September and be walking on this road that has no sidewalks. 66 00:15:06,830 --> 00:15:12,110 So I would really appreciate this happening as soon as possible because I'll be walking with a walker. 67 00:15:12,830 --> 00:15:19,370 On cactus drive, I went to almost every house except for the ones that would not come to the door. 68 00:15:21,050 --> 00:15:27,430 I, the notes on the map show me how many times I went to the house. The stars show how many signatures I got. 69 00:15:28,790 --> 00:15:32,910 The houses are labeled as whether they look like they're empty or not. 70 00:15:33,170 --> 00:15:38,450 I did get a list from public works of the addresses and who owns them. 71 00:15:38,730 --> 00:15:46,570 As you can see my worksheet and I have diligently been trying to get the signatures 72 00:15:46,570 --> 00:15:49,830 according to public works, I still need two more signatures. 73 00:15:50,750 --> 00:15:54,550 I don't think any of these people that haven't signed yet are going to come to the door 74 00:15:54,550 --> 00:16:03,110 sign, and I don't know what else to do. So I'm here to plead on my behalf. There's my 75 00:16:03,110 --> 00:16:03,570 signatures. 76 00:16:05,940 --> 00:16:11,320 I was told at the beginning I had to get the addresses at 5800, which is in the 77 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:16,780 R-Horten subdivision. So one Sunday afternoon, in the heat of the day, I went and got of the 78 00:16:16,780 --> 00:16:21,980 eight homes that are on that, that in that subdivision on cactus drive, I got five of the 79 00:16:21,980 --> 00:16:31,820 so it's time to petition. So, I feel like I'm doing more everything in above. So, thank 80 00:16:31,820 --> 00:16:39,640 you very much for your time. Thank you, ma'am. Erica Thomas and then David Jensen will be next. 81 00:16:48,610 --> 00:16:55,630 Good morning. Today, I'd like to speak to you on a more personal note regarding the boardwalk 82 00:16:55,630 --> 00:17:03,830 that's a project. Mr. Eddington, I came here as one of those tourists that you claim do not count 83 00:17:03,830 --> 00:17:11,650 on a petition in 2014. We fell in love with a place that was quiet and spoiled a place where we brought 84 00:17:11,650 --> 00:17:17,990 our family to vacation. We returned every year and finally moved to the island in 2023. 85 00:17:19,030 --> 00:17:25,170 I walked that beach most mornings. I go east to watch the sun come up over the dunes and listen to 86 00:17:26,050 --> 00:17:31,130 I'm going to share a few locals and tourist thoughts on the Boardwalk project. 87 00:17:31,930 --> 00:17:38,710 With you currently on change.org, we have 4,756 signatures and it's climbing. 88 00:17:39,510 --> 00:17:45,230 I hope you will listen. From the forum of Concerned Citizens of Nevada, Ed Greer wrote 89 00:17:45,230 --> 00:17:49,250 More Life Guards, a Free Peer Day, sponsored bands on the beach. 90 00:17:50,010 --> 00:17:52,870 And again, now that it's tourist money better spent. 91 00:17:52,870 --> 00:17:59,970 Dale Taylor, a general contractor in Navar, suggested instead of spending the money on the 92 00:17:59,970 --> 00:18:03,570 boardwalk, make the improvements on what you already have. 93 00:18:04,050 --> 00:18:10,750 He says that some of the sinks are loose, tile is broken, there are screws coming up out 94 00:18:10,750 --> 00:18:16,970 of the boardwalks all along Navar Boulevard that go over to the beach and in the marine park 95 00:18:16,970 --> 00:18:18,790 that need to be taken care of. 96 00:18:19,010 --> 00:18:21,790 Fix what we have, not what we don't. 97 00:18:22,490 --> 00:18:27,790 Wendy Pug wrote, we have lived in Navar for 21 years. We raised three children there. 98 00:18:29,630 --> 00:18:35,330 Our sons lived every spare moment, fishing and surfing, and even saving people from drowning 99 00:18:35,330 --> 00:18:40,490 on the beach. I would hate to see the beautiful wildlife disturbed on such a beautiful beach. 100 00:18:41,350 --> 00:18:46,610 Sherry Resos wrote, we love our undeveloped land at the beach. We don't want it destroyed, 101 00:18:46,610 --> 00:18:53,230 are looking like Destin or Pensacola. People love to come here for the seclusion. 102 00:18:54,610 --> 00:18:58,750 Paddy McGee said this is basically the last unspoiled beach on the Panhandle. 103 00:18:59,250 --> 00:19:03,410 Decades of locals have enjoyed it, but it will be destroyed and turned into another 104 00:19:03,410 --> 00:19:08,870 Destin if you will allow this to happen. Stop the building of anything else on this beautiful area. 105 00:19:09,330 --> 00:19:15,350 I moved over here for a specific reason. Please don't let greed take over. 106 00:19:16,150 --> 00:19:17,890 Thank you for your time. 107 00:19:19,170 --> 00:19:19,850 Thank you. 108 00:19:20,470 --> 00:19:22,850 David Jensen and then Frederick Schmidt. 109 00:19:28,580 --> 00:19:28,860 Good morning. 110 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,100 David Jensen, Navar. 111 00:19:32,420 --> 00:19:33,300 Good morning, commissioners. 112 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,800 I actually wanted to pause for a moment and reflect on that indication. 113 00:19:36,900 --> 00:19:39,120 I thought that was very appropriate for day. 114 00:19:39,260 --> 00:19:41,260 Slow down, walk humbly. 115 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:43,400 Micah six eight great verse. 116 00:19:43,540 --> 00:19:45,700 We should all commit that to memory and to heart. 117 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:50,280 On Tuesday, I actually asked this board to slow down on this project for the Navar. 118 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,360 each event hall in boardwalk. 119 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,980 Since then, I've gone back through the board record 120 00:19:54,980 --> 00:19:57,260 and I learned something that I think is important. 121 00:19:57,900 --> 00:20:00,100 The current event hall design traces 122 00:20:00,100 --> 00:20:03,300 to September 2025, on September 11th, 123 00:20:03,420 --> 00:20:05,800 the board discussed the redesign but took no action. 124 00:20:06,500 --> 00:20:11,360 Two weeks later, the board approved the revised design task order. 125 00:20:11,940 --> 00:20:13,920 Only three commissioners were present. 126 00:20:14,380 --> 00:20:16,840 Two voted for, one voted against. 127 00:20:17,580 --> 00:20:23,840 Commissioner Smith and Commissioner Zeddington voted again, voted for it, Commissioner Rao voted against it. 128 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,560 He's the only one that's going to continue on to the next board. 129 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,980 So I think, and Commissioner's right, Burkett, we're absent. 130 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:36,460 I have searched the subsequent records so staff, please correct me if there was another vote, 131 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:41,340 where all five commissioners went on record to say, this is the design we want. 132 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,840 On Tuesday, I think Chairman Wright proposed the right path forward. 133 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,180 We open the Bids on September 3. 134 00:20:48,340 --> 00:20:52,980 Let's see what this project actually is going to cost rather than relying on budget estimates. 135 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:59,400 And the staff has done a great job breaking it into a plan A for the event hall, 136 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,940 and a plan B for the parking lot in restrooms, 137 00:21:02,140 --> 00:21:05,520 which is actually what the original project was, and then several options. 138 00:21:05,820 --> 00:21:06,760 So we'll get good detail. 139 00:21:07,820 --> 00:21:12,000 He also talked about looking back at the district floor master plan. 140 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:19,320 The county spent $125,000 developing that plan in 2018 with extensive community participation. 141 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:25,140 Yet, when it reached this board, you simply acknowledged it. It was not accepted. It was not 142 00:21:25,140 --> 00:21:31,240 approved. It was simply acknowledged. We don't need to throw away that plan. We don't need to throw away 143 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:37,320 the event hall and boardwalk plan. We need to use what we've already done. Let's engage the 144 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,840 community again, not delay indefinitely, but to determine what 145 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,980 Navar wants, what parts of the project makes sense, and where 146 00:21:44,980 --> 00:21:48,840 they belong. Then when the new board is seated and brought up to 147 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,780 speed, let's give them the bids, the answers, the master plan, and 148 00:21:52,780 --> 00:21:56,040 that public input. And I actually agree with you at Commissioner 149 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,580 Edington, we should get everybody in a room, so we know what the 150 00:21:59,580 --> 00:22:02,980 locals want. Let's all get around the table, let's get 151 00:22:02,980 --> 00:22:05,620 engaged, and it's going to rely on these folks and the people 152 00:22:05,620 --> 00:22:11,380 watching today. If you want to have a say show up please we all want to hear. Then let's put 153 00:22:11,380 --> 00:22:17,040 that final direction before the five commissioners for a recorded vote before the contract is 154 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:22,700 awarded. I'm not sure why we're in a rush to try to get this awarded. We need process. We need 155 00:22:22,700 --> 00:22:28,840 legitimacy. We need community engagement and then we need a deliberate decision by this board. Thank you. 156 00:22:32,030 --> 00:22:36,730 Thank you. Frederick Schmidt, and up next week, Linda folks, 157 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,100 push it again. 158 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:47,300 There you go. Good morning. Thank you for your time. I'm here to speak on behalf of myself, my wife and 159 00:22:47,300 --> 00:22:52,980 Miss Linda here about the noise that we receive in southern brew. Frederick Schmidt, Shadow Hope Drive. 160 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,440 If they can be heard from the center of my property, there's no doubt in my mind that Miss Linda is hearing it throughout the entire home. 161 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:04,360 A home that is supposed to be private. By definition, a home is a place where a person lives such as a house or an apartment. 162 00:23:04,360 --> 00:23:07,020 and where they feel safe, comfortable, and accepted. 163 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,900 The definition of privacy is the right of an individual to be left alone and control 164 00:23:10,900 --> 00:23:14,780 who has access to their personal space, body, communications, and information. 165 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,460 By definition, Miss Linda no longer has a home. 166 00:23:19,140 --> 00:23:22,340 She has lost her personal space because she's forced to leave her home to get away from 167 00:23:22,340 --> 00:23:25,600 seven brews music, and this is multiple locations over the last few months. 168 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,240 If the county is unable to enforce the ordinance due to insufficient or unavailable resources, 169 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,840 maybe there needs to be a change to the ordinance itself. 170 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,620 adopting a plainly audible standard seems to be the shortest path to resolution. 171 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,180 Any law enforcement official could walk into our property and clearly hear what song is being played. 172 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,600 No expensive equipment to be trained or maintained. 173 00:23:45,580 --> 00:23:50,020 And the amount of time I have been here in front of you, the whole minute that I've been speaking, 174 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,840 it could be determined that there's a violation of that noise ordinance. 175 00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:58,540 It's a simple fix. I don't think it takes shutting down a business. We're grateful to have another business in the community. 176 00:24:00,020 --> 00:24:01,540 We'd like the privacy of our home. 177 00:24:01,540 --> 00:24:06,900 And I'd like to thank everyone here, come to speak up, the community needs it, and thank you all for your time. 178 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:09,940 Thank you, sir. 179 00:24:10,500 --> 00:24:10,660 Linda. 180 00:24:11,780 --> 00:24:15,260 And up next, uh, Kwon Lawson Schmidt. 181 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,080 My name is Linda Fowl. 182 00:24:22,460 --> 00:24:25,020 I live in the pine groves of vision and pace. 183 00:24:25,220 --> 00:24:30,880 On December 2025, seven brew, drive in, or drop through, was open in our neighborhood. 184 00:24:32,180 --> 00:24:38,200 there has been an ongoing dispute of the plane of the extremely loud music coming from 185 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:44,840 seven brew. We spoke with the store manager, Madden McGummery, and he talked with corporate, 186 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:51,860 and the music was turned off for almost two months. District manager, Caitlin Browning, 187 00:24:52,060 --> 00:25:00,280 had the music turn back on in June and was told to blast it because I was the only person 188 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:06,940 complaining, but I am not the only person complaining. Our neighborhood has been under assault 189 00:25:06,940 --> 00:25:13,700 with the music lads sometimes turned down, sometimes turned off for short periods of time, 190 00:25:13,940 --> 00:25:21,480 and then turned back on. I am always listening for the intrusion to begin. The disruption is overwhelming. 191 00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:28,480 I have lost all peaceful enjoyment of my home and yard. I want to play the video 192 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:35,100 of me talking with acting manager page at seven brewed during a day when the music was 193 00:25:35,100 --> 00:25:43,540 extreme and it started which they are allowed at seven a.m. I say acting manager 194 00:25:43,540 --> 00:25:48,500 because no one there will say they are the manager or how to get in touch with 195 00:25:48,500 --> 00:25:54,880 management. I am holding my phone during the recording and I encourage you to 196 00:25:54,880 --> 00:26:01,800 listen to the entire seven minutes, although we're going to play part of that right now. 197 00:26:28,780 --> 00:26:34,980 That's what we were told by COVID, not even a month ago, but it turned over last 198 00:26:34,980 --> 00:26:35,580 two and about. 199 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,380 So we were just following COVID tools, and I'm doing time. 200 00:26:40,340 --> 00:26:57,620 Where you understand, and you're in a walk-in walk-in walk-in, but you know, I have 201 00:26:57,620 --> 00:27:01,980 I said, I will mess with the settings when I do apologize. 202 00:27:03,460 --> 00:27:10,420 Maybe we can do a compromise and I'll talk to my manager, possibly doing like the speakers apart and said. 203 00:27:11,060 --> 00:27:14,820 You know, I don't know. 204 00:27:14,820 --> 00:27:15,060 You know, I don't know. 205 00:27:15,060 --> 00:27:18,240 You know, I say the compromise only for me. 206 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:19,680 Well, I know. 207 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:22,840 Thank you. 208 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:24,180 Thank you. 209 00:27:32,020 --> 00:27:32,900 I need to hit it. 210 00:27:33,060 --> 00:27:34,140 And Joe Hurley will be next. 211 00:27:34,140 --> 00:27:34,400 Good. 212 00:27:35,180 --> 00:27:36,340 Just take your name for the record. 213 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:36,760 Okay. 214 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:37,100 Hi. 215 00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:38,500 My name is Corin Lawson Schmidt. 216 00:27:38,980 --> 00:27:40,020 I'm here again. 217 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:45,000 We've been here before for the noise ordinance coming from the Res, or excuse me, the commercial 218 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,200 business that is moved into a residential neighborhood. 219 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,700 We've been dealing with this loud and amplified music for a very long time. 220 00:27:50,740 --> 00:27:53,540 It also affects our child who has a hearing aid. 221 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,760 He just doesn't even go in our yard anymore to enjoy it. 222 00:27:56,820 --> 00:27:57,700 You know, we want to be clear. 223 00:27:57,820 --> 00:27:59,860 We are not asking for this business to be shut down. 224 00:27:59,860 --> 00:28:01,340 We're not asking them to stop operating. 225 00:28:01,340 --> 00:28:06,180 we just simply believe that this should be able to operate without forcing surrounding residents 226 00:28:06,180 --> 00:28:11,480 to listen to loud and amplify music within the R.R. and Linda lives about 45 to 55 feet. 227 00:28:11,780 --> 00:28:16,140 I'm 100 feet across the street, depending on where you are in my yard. It can be 500 feet. 228 00:28:16,340 --> 00:28:22,820 I can video record as if you are right next to the speaker. It's just obnoxious. It's 229 00:28:22,820 --> 00:28:28,380 this is a for a business that cultivates kindness. It's not very kind when I can hear you inside of my home. 230 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:55,440 We've done everything that we were told to do, we contacted code enforcement, we contacted law enforcement, we've documented the noise, we've made repeated complaints, we've attended meetings, we've brought this issue to everyone here and we're still dealing with this, I think the most frustrating part is the circumstances often changed, the music is turned up one day, it is off one day and there's never an accurate assessment that can be made by the time someone is able to arrive, you know, we understand you guys are busy. 231 00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:01,220 We're told that there's nothing that can be done, even though the noise was clearly disturbing us before the call was made. 232 00:29:02,300 --> 00:29:09,680 And I have a serious concern about how the decibel readings are supposed to be replied upon when I have called for law enforcement. 233 00:29:10,020 --> 00:29:15,240 It's either not properly calibrated and they're uncertain of how the equipment should even be used. 234 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,900 Some of your officers don't even know how to use it or they're not charged. 235 00:29:18,900 --> 00:29:23,220 They've never been able to actually get a proper reading. 236 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,320 And when you guys pull up, I've got it on video. 237 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,340 When you pull up with your code enforcement card, 238 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,840 they run inside and they turn it off. 239 00:29:30,300 --> 00:29:31,340 It's, it's intentful. 240 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:31,980 It's malicious. 241 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,360 They do this on purpose. 242 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,840 I know that it can be turned off because it was, 243 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,300 it was so nice and quiet. 244 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:38,720 And everybody lived peacefully. 245 00:29:39,020 --> 00:29:42,440 And then the new manager, I'm not even sure she's the manager. 246 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,040 No one seems to know who they work for there when you ask. 247 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,880 I ask them, how do you take a day off? 248 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,240 And they say that they don't know. 249 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:54,180 If the equipment is not going to be consistently ready, it'll probably maintain calibrated, 250 00:29:54,300 --> 00:29:59,820 then how are readings supposed to be considered for reliable representation for your residents should this turn into a lawsuit? 251 00:30:00,340 --> 00:30:24,560 The week ends, you know, is probably the biggest issue that we have. You all are not available. Coden enforcement is not available. That is when the music goes very, very high. It's, it really does show that it, this is maliciously done. This is intentful. If you can turn it off during the week and have it up and down, it can be turned off. I think this is them just choosing not to do this because they simply just don't have anybody making them. 252 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:39,640 Um, you know, it's, it's up, it's down, you know, and some point I think we just have to ask ourselves whether the, the current noise ordinance, uh, for Santa Rosa, is it, is it really working, you know, and as commissioners do you all believe that commercial businesses have more rights than residents. 253 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:41,940 Thank you. 254 00:30:42,220 --> 00:30:42,920 Thank you, ma'am. 255 00:30:45,580 --> 00:30:48,100 Up next, Joe Hurley and then Jerry Cooley. 256 00:30:49,140 --> 00:30:50,440 Good morning, Joe Hurley. 257 00:30:51,620 --> 00:30:55,780 There's been a lot of talk recently about transparency with the board open communications. 258 00:30:56,700 --> 00:30:59,700 And to that end, I tried to getting some public records. 259 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,660 And I've had an extensive discussion 260 00:31:02,660 --> 00:31:04,820 of your email with the county attorney. 261 00:31:05,860 --> 00:31:09,460 And really stating that I was looking for NDA information. 262 00:31:10,060 --> 00:31:12,080 And the attorney finally came back and said, 263 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,940 the BCC has no such records. 264 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,060 Additionally, as stated previously, 265 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,180 even the economic development doesn't have NDAs. 266 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,860 The company just sends in a request. 267 00:31:21,540 --> 00:31:23,800 So I think we're just kind of playing with words here. 268 00:31:23,980 --> 00:31:25,500 We have, it's not an NDA. 269 00:31:25,500 --> 00:31:31,420 it's just a request from a specific company that we do not disclose what we're talking about, 270 00:31:31,660 --> 00:31:35,000 which by the way has a lot of implications with the sunshine, law, etc. 271 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,560 So I go back to Tom and I said, you know, I'm not trying to be difficult here, but what 272 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:45,700 the NDAs that Mr Smith and Mr Wright have been talking about is response was, he has no idea, 273 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:52,800 but non-lawyers often use general terms that are not legally precise. And that really concerns me 274 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:58,360 at the five of you city are paid handsomely to represent us the people and don't know the difference 275 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:05,140 between an NDA and somebody's request for privacy. So either you the board has to talk to the 276 00:32:05,140 --> 00:32:10,500 attorney, somebody has to get their story straight, where you're both telling us on public radio 277 00:32:10,500 --> 00:32:16,560 that you've had NDA sign in your attorney saying those such things exist. So I think we've beaten 278 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:21,760 this to death, but it's not going to go away. I will continue with it. The state's attorney now has 279 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,920 paperwork and we'll see where it goes. I'm glad you're getting a good 280 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:30,040 chuckle out of it sir. Thank you. Mr. Chairman, the reference to the 281 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:35,700 chuckle is just because Mr. Hurley unfortunately didn't read the following 282 00:32:35,700 --> 00:32:40,760 communication or read it for you. And the board was copied. When Mr. Hurley 283 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:46,880 thought there was some unique or problem with non-lawyers using the term 284 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:55,020 in DA if that's what a Commissioner did. I followed up with if a Commissioner or anyone else 285 00:32:55,020 --> 00:33:00,960 use the term quote in DA to summarize the subject that would be totally reasonable and practically 286 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:08,100 accurate. The term quote in DA is often colloquially used as shorthand for the point that the 287 00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:14,240 county is prohibited from disclosing the information per statute. I believe even some economic 288 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:19,320 development people use the term. However, the statute is worded as I originally sent to you. 289 00:33:19,340 --> 00:33:26,000 There is no quote agreement, but the effect is the same as an NDA as the information is confidential 290 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:32,280 per law for the prescribed time period. And as I explained to Mr. Hurley and y'all been copied, 291 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,280 we have no choice. This is a law enacted by the legislature, 292 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:44,200 release of any request for confidentiality by a company is a criminal offense. So obviously 293 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:49,220 as county attorney, I'm not going to advise anyone to commit a criminal crime. 294 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,360 Thank you, Tom. 295 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,560 Jerky and 296 00:33:59,300 --> 00:34:09,900 then Tara Milillo will be next. Good morning Jerky, Milton. Certainly I've let Mr. 297 00:34:09,900 --> 00:34:12,520 Mr. Hurley's kind of taking the lead on that question. 298 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:20,600 I think it's a question that needs to be answered and as I said before, nobody's asked 299 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:25,240 for any confidential information in the NDA. 300 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:31,920 We've only asked for the title page and any signature that might be there. 301 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:37,520 Mr. Chairman, there's not such things a title page, but any title in the signature would 302 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:42,200 a direct violation of the statute and a criminal offense, because you'd be revealing the 303 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,500 information from the company who submitted the statutory request. 304 00:34:49,020 --> 00:34:50,640 I appreciate your opinion. 305 00:34:50,940 --> 00:34:52,240 It's a black and white law. 306 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,760 Any citizen can look it up. 307 00:34:53,820 --> 00:34:55,080 I'll be glad to send you a copy. 308 00:34:56,060 --> 00:35:00,400 And Mr. Kooey, if you want to walk in the economic development and without our permission 309 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,400 violate the law, you can maybe be a test case. 310 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:05,180 Okay. 311 00:35:05,700 --> 00:35:08,320 So we got to the point that we're threatening people. 312 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:16,360 I appreciate that thank you no no no no this is my time. I'm done. I'll be happy to give him this plenty of time back. 313 00:35:20,300 --> 00:35:28,080 After the conversation on Tuesday regarding the the overseas trip that was a 314 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:33,620 well quite a few people had some additional questions to that so I'll just ask the two questions 315 00:35:33,620 --> 00:35:38,740 And if the chairman wants to answer him, he can have the rest of my time. 316 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:48,780 No one question was, where did you travel in that period of time? 317 00:35:49,460 --> 00:35:55,940 And the other question that I was asked repeatedly was, what was the total length of the trip? 318 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,460 And so if you want to answer those feel free, thank you. 319 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:03,660 Thank you. 320 00:36:03,660 --> 00:36:06,640 there are a Milillo and then Christopher Curb. 321 00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:15,290 Get to push the button once. 322 00:36:16,030 --> 00:36:16,630 There you go. 323 00:36:18,500 --> 00:36:19,120 Good morning. 324 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:20,020 Thank you very much. 325 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,100 My name is Tara Milillo. 326 00:36:21,140 --> 00:36:26,200 I live in Navar, and I'm also talking about the boardwalk event hall 327 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,800 and bridge proposal. 328 00:36:29,100 --> 00:36:33,120 I call it paving paradise and putting up the parking lot. 329 00:36:34,540 --> 00:36:38,180 By the sounds of what we're hearing today, gentlemen and ladies, 330 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:40,960 there is a need for infrastructure. 331 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,300 I'm just going to speak loud so everyone can hear. 332 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:54,960 There's a real need for infrastructure here and you know I have to just have a lot of questions about the cost of this, you know, proposal from 5 to 15 million dollars. 333 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,380 That's a huge range. 334 00:36:56,860 --> 00:37:00,780 And you know we'd like to see some transparency where are the funds going to come from. 335 00:37:01,340 --> 00:37:03,980 So I have to just have a couple of questions and I'll go very quickly. 336 00:37:07,940 --> 00:37:12,520 Well, if this passes, will the business owners, you know, who are going to be the vendors 337 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,980 on the boardwalk, are they going to be told that the property is uninsurable and that 338 00:37:16,980 --> 00:37:22,120 FEMA won't not be able to touch it, and their own business policy with Santa Rosa County 339 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,540 as additional insured, are they going to be told that, you know, right up front? 340 00:37:25,540 --> 00:37:29,980 has our military been briefed about the size and structure of the 341 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:43,340 16-foot pylons and anything with their strategic protection of our shore. Thank you very much to our veterans and active service professionals. You know, so that's these are questions. For the bridge, 342 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:56,200 I understand we need a new EP and D study. Who's going to pay for that gentleman? Where is that going to come from? Or is it going to be tacked onto the end? 343 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:01,380 citizens are very concerned to just about the money for this and I would like to ask 344 00:38:01,380 --> 00:38:07,140 do we have more funds in the coffers for when the next hurricane rolls in you know there's 345 00:38:07,140 --> 00:38:12,360 a lot of crazy stuff going on I will be I can witness to that I escaped from the you know 346 00:38:13,140 --> 00:38:18,620 craziness of north I'm sure you can tell with my accent but I have the same values as my 347 00:38:18,620 --> 00:38:25,860 constituent you know the people here and all of you who will run the event space business what 348 00:38:25,860 --> 00:38:30,500 the plans that say if I was a wedding planner, but I am a notary public so I can't 349 00:38:30,500 --> 00:38:36,120 officiate weddings, if I wanted to, you know, organize that for a customer or somebody 350 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:43,260 wanting to get married, how is it going to be fair? Is it first come for a serve on a server 351 00:38:43,260 --> 00:38:47,960 that everyone's just, oh, this someone has already taken that with a deposit? How is that 352 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:53,660 going to be just to make sure no one has, you know, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, more 353 00:38:53,660 --> 00:38:59,680 influence than anyone else, you know, because it has to be fair. Um, and I 354 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,880 have some questions for Julie. I, you know, I don't know how to address these. I 355 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:08,020 can submit them in a written format. I would love to see an audit of the tourist 356 00:39:08,020 --> 00:39:12,520 bed tax. We have a lot of, wow, we're getting, we're, you know, Novara Beach is pulling 357 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:17,300 in a lot. Can we can we have an audit just like the other volunteer fire departments have to, 358 00:39:17,300 --> 00:39:22,800 you know provide audit for funds. Can we see the result of the poll? Okay, thank you very much. 359 00:39:23,220 --> 00:39:28,720 I think I could take the risk and written for that. Chris Kirby and then Chris Malcolm. 360 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:59,220 Chris Kirby with flood defenders. I spoke to you, you know, 361 00:39:59,460 --> 00:40:02,620 cheesy about me that by, you know, 362 00:40:05,950 --> 00:40:10,920 it's not working out there. So, what you mean doing, 363 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:18,880 and I'm in work and so. What are you going to do? How do you fix it? Well I reckon 364 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:24,400 then first of all you do it. Very clean and dry in the study of what's going on and we'll 365 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:31,860 let by you in that watershed because the hydrology there is getting very interrupted by development. 366 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,680 There's a lot of gaps in your 367 00:40:41,650 --> 00:40:45,450 policies for permanent inspection and enforcement. We need to stop 368 00:40:45,450 --> 00:40:45,970 bleeding, 369 00:40:49,630 --> 00:40:51,790 he doesn't stop to blame, he's not going to get worse. 370 00:40:54,580 --> 00:40:56,320 You're already going to be more flooded. 371 00:40:57,420 --> 00:41:02,700 Sound crews move on right now, we're about to rest around, I won't beat subdivision. 372 00:41:04,140 --> 00:41:10,640 You can't policy touch the bar to the state to determine an enforcement. 373 00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:16,760 That's not working for a year. 374 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:22,040 taxpayers money to take bad actors to court for not doing 375 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:29,960 like they're supposed to do. That's your tax dollars. My tax dollars. I 376 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:34,500 got to do a stop the bleeding and how do you stop the bleeding where the 377 00:41:34,500 --> 00:41:41,560 buck stops at the local building permit? That's how you stop the bleeding at 378 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:47,060 the local building permit. And your development orders. I tell you you need to 379 00:41:47,060 --> 00:41:49,760 provide proof of application and regulatory permits. 380 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,860 You have codes that reference state and federal laws. 381 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,320 And for some, 382 00:41:58,420 --> 00:42:04,280 we need to be consistent with what DOT has done with 3309.157 383 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,940 Florida statutes, flood resilience statutes. 384 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:15,660 They use the most current and updated NOAA rainfall data, 385 00:42:20,060 --> 00:42:22,320 since only at 32 seconds left. 386 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:30,460 also passed out a memo of the past administration about North West Florida Water Management District 387 00:42:30,460 --> 00:42:36,380 of Environmental Resource Permining Policy. It really deals with on-products of divisions, but one 388 00:42:36,380 --> 00:42:42,460 of the things you need to look at in the state statutes that deal with regulatory activities for 389 00:42:42,460 --> 00:42:51,110 environmental resource permitting is the thresholds. When you have a common development that puts in 390 00:42:51,110 --> 00:42:55,670 out of the square foot of a public area. It requires an environmental resource permit. 391 00:42:56,450 --> 00:42:57,470 Thank you, Chris. 392 00:42:59,700 --> 00:43:00,960 Chris Malcolm. 393 00:43:09,860 --> 00:43:11,760 Turn it back on day morning. 394 00:43:12,420 --> 00:43:18,920 First time speaking, my wife and I live in District 4. 395 00:43:20,140 --> 00:43:23,240 I'm here to talk about the Board of Art Project. 396 00:43:23,240 --> 00:43:30,380 My understanding is that this property is currently designated as public recreation and conservation space. 397 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:42,480 Now the board, supposedly approved the project before changing the zoning by changing it to, before changing it to commercial zone to accommodate the project. 398 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,060 seems to me, you put the car before the vores. 399 00:43:46,740 --> 00:43:49,180 This is just my initial understanding. 400 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,940 Second point is regarding amendment three. 401 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,720 We all know that if it passes in November, 402 00:43:57,740 --> 00:44:01,260 it's going to result in significant revenue laws 403 00:44:01,260 --> 00:44:04,860 for the state, and they were about $12 billion. 404 00:44:05,940 --> 00:44:09,360 And I haven't heard or seen any estimates on what 405 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:15,440 it's going to cost the county. I don't believe that there's any estimate for Santa Rosa County 406 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:22,020 that I've seen or heard of. Until we know what the impact is going to be, all that seems 407 00:44:22,020 --> 00:44:29,480 to me, all non procured services and vanity projects should be paused until after the November 408 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:38,220 election. Until then, it seems we should only focus on procuring only essential services. Even if it 409 00:44:38,220 --> 00:44:46,760 the past, we have a bridge to pay for. Next point is regarding what's on the Santa Rosa County 410 00:44:47,900 --> 00:44:54,100 Tourism Development website. It states regarding tourist invitations. 411 00:44:54,940 --> 00:44:59,980 We invite you to venture to Florida's Panhandle, slow down. 412 00:45:00,340 --> 00:45:13,900 And discover the uncrowded, unspored, and unburied, natural beauty, and charm of an award-beach. Here, you'll find a relaxing blend of waterfront beauty. 413 00:45:13,900 --> 00:45:23,260 And no way, in my estimation, will this project maintain or enhance the imitation to such 414 00:45:23,260 --> 00:45:34,720 tourist, trash from the particular location from this project is going to be a challenge 415 00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:35,900 to maintain? 416 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:43,720 Next point is, my understanding is that this project passed with just three commissioners present, 417 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,820 two of which voted for and won against. 418 00:45:48,700 --> 00:45:54,600 And my question to the board and supporting staff is, will, 419 00:45:55,220 --> 00:46:00,000 would, does passing this project with just two votes, is that sufficient? 420 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,840 Is it an importance with the bylaws? 421 00:46:03,380 --> 00:46:11,100 And if it's not, then it should, the vote should be voided and revoked it again with at least 422 00:46:11,100 --> 00:46:15,700 having three votes and four in combination of it. 423 00:46:15,980 --> 00:46:17,180 Last point. 424 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:17,640 Thank you. 425 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:18,300 Sir, sir. 426 00:46:18,300 --> 00:46:19,340 Sir, your time is expired. 427 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:21,380 Thank you. 428 00:46:22,020 --> 00:46:23,620 Tom, can you answer that question or form? 429 00:46:23,900 --> 00:46:26,880 Since he has the legal question, which one in particular? 430 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,180 And reference to was the vote legal. 431 00:46:31,020 --> 00:46:31,240 Yes. 432 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:38,340 You need a majority of the board president for a quorum, and then majority vote of the quorum 433 00:46:38,340 --> 00:46:39,440 to pass any action. 434 00:46:39,620 --> 00:46:44,820 And this otherwise specifically prescribed by statute, there are some provisions that require 435 00:46:44,820 --> 00:46:50,480 four if they are super majority votes, but in general, just a majority of a quorum. 436 00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:53,220 Thank you, sir. 437 00:46:55,620 --> 00:46:58,760 I'm certainly going to be willing to address some of the questions that came up in public 438 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,360 form and I would ask that a couple of other commissions too as well for discussion 439 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:02,900 sake. 440 00:47:03,620 --> 00:47:07,380 But I am going to say we do have two public hearings, so let's give the public hearings 441 00:47:07,380 --> 00:47:10,520 out of the way and if people would like to stick around, I'm certainly willing to address 442 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:11,160 some of their questions. 443 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,860 But in the meantime, we're going to open the first right away vacation near North First Avenue 444 00:47:15,860 --> 00:47:17,000 in Del Monte Street. 445 00:47:17,340 --> 00:47:21,260 So, it proved or denial of a vacation request from Mark and Tracy Snyder for North First 446 00:47:21,260 --> 00:47:22,580 Avenue in Del Monte Street. 447 00:47:22,580 --> 00:47:25,960 So, the applicant here, if you just come to the podium, 448 00:47:29,300 --> 00:47:31,000 if you'd like to, yeah, if you'll 449 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,960 just state your name and I just for the record and explain what you want to do. 450 00:47:34,180 --> 00:47:34,820 Sure, good morning. 451 00:47:35,580 --> 00:47:37,720 My name is Mark Snyder, I'm the property owner. 452 00:47:40,180 --> 00:47:44,600 Just requesting, there's an alley between two parcels that we own. 453 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:51,920 I did all the paperwork and did the survey that they required and it would allow me to 454 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:56,860 have access to the back portion of our property, which we don't have right now. 455 00:47:59,860 --> 00:48:01,220 There are any questions from the board. 456 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:04,960 This is your district. 457 00:48:05,220 --> 00:48:06,220 Is it not? 458 00:48:07,860 --> 00:48:08,600 No objection. 459 00:48:09,540 --> 00:48:11,240 I'm going to make motion to prove that objection. 460 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:13,100 All right. 461 00:48:13,260 --> 00:48:14,380 Seen on some move. 462 00:48:15,620 --> 00:48:16,120 Contample. 463 00:48:16,580 --> 00:48:16,840 Yes, sir. 464 00:48:16,900 --> 00:48:17,280 You're approved. 465 00:48:20,100 --> 00:48:20,520 Second item. 466 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,880 Approval denial of vacation requests for main royalty partnership LLC for right-of-way near 467 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,320 89.50 distribution Avenue. Is that applicant here? 468 00:48:32,420 --> 00:48:36,580 Commissioner Smith, this is in here. I know this is in what we need 469 00:48:36,580 --> 00:48:41,700 economic development as well. Yeah, this was not sure all of us have looked 470 00:48:41,700 --> 00:48:45,280 over. I don't have any objection. No heart burn over this and I'll make a 471 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:50,960 motion to approve this one without objection. See no objection, some moved. That 472 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:55,920 closes the public hearings. Move back over to some quick discussion before we get 473 00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:02,520 to the agenda. Regarding the UK trip, it's interesting that the gentleman came up and spoke 474 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:08,880 and has questions referenced me going on a blog and discussing it before I mentioned it 475 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:15,120 to anyone in the public, which is an exactly accurate. I came and told you gentlemen and 476 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:20,580 briefed you about the trip at the next available board meeting, which if you look historically 477 00:49:20,580 --> 00:49:24,680 I've done every time we've taken a trip, whether it was the time I attended the Air War College, 478 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:30,520 when Colonel Hamilton asked me to go do that. I came back and immediately told you guys what was 479 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,340 going on. I've done that consistently. 480 00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:39,540 I stand consistent in defending any of the trips I've taken 481 00:49:39,540 --> 00:49:43,400 and knowing they were official county business and we were doing good work and we were planting 482 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:47,720 seeds at a bare minimum we were planting seeds that were going to bear fruit in the future. 483 00:49:48,980 --> 00:49:57,240 With regard to where I went at the time, I clearly said, we went to the UK, went to London, 484 00:49:57,820 --> 00:49:58,300 went to Scotland. 485 00:49:58,860 --> 00:50:00,120 There are meetings in both places. 486 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,840 I don't know how detailed we want to get and where I went and what I did. 487 00:50:04,020 --> 00:50:06,960 I mean, I guess I can try to recall how many bathroom trips I took. 488 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:12,720 But I just don't know what level of detail you want and at one point you're going to 489 00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:21,600 stop taking a personal vendetta against me and laying your disdain for me, cloud your vision 490 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,640 on what's good for Santa Rosa County and this entire community. 491 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:31,480 I will tell you that on the section of the trip that I went on with the legislative 492 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:37,920 delegation was the only one here on that trip, west of Tallahassee. 493 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:44,560 I was the only one consistently telling the message and the story of Northwest Florida and how important 494 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:52,840 Senator was a county was when we had people from Orlando, Miami, Tampa and others, constantly 495 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,180 touting how great the state of Florida was and how everyone should come there. 496 00:50:58,290 --> 00:51:04,830 And if I had not been there we would have no one telling these high tech companies that we 497 00:51:04,830 --> 00:51:10,870 existed, the whiting aviation park existed, and we would love to have them come and consider 498 00:51:12,290 --> 00:51:12,730 us. 499 00:51:13,110 --> 00:51:17,170 I'm all about providing jobs for our kids and grandkids, and I will continue to do that, and 500 00:51:17,170 --> 00:51:18,530 I will continue to defend that. 501 00:51:19,090 --> 00:51:21,130 With regard to the boardwalk, there's a lot more questions. 502 00:51:21,830 --> 00:51:24,250 I've written down a compiled some questions the other day. 503 00:51:24,370 --> 00:51:25,710 Jared and I talked about it yesterday. 504 00:51:26,350 --> 00:51:29,970 We'll certainly have all those questions and have answers for them, so we can do a workshop 505 00:51:29,970 --> 00:51:31,390 and work through everything. 506 00:51:32,050 --> 00:51:35,970 I know there was, I mentioned the District 4 Master Plan the other day. 507 00:51:36,930 --> 00:51:41,830 I think some people may not even remember long before that in early 2000s. 508 00:51:41,970 --> 00:51:44,470 There was a Navarra Town Center Plan that even goes back to that. 509 00:51:45,050 --> 00:51:52,830 So, I think there's plenty of opportunity for discussion there and I, it's unfortunate that 510 00:51:52,830 --> 00:51:57,650 people see government working and they instantly, and I understand it, but it's frustrating 511 00:51:57,650 --> 00:52:02,090 that they instantly start coming out with their own conclusions and we've conspiracies. 512 00:52:04,490 --> 00:52:08,250 Because there's no conspiracy on why there was only three people voting that day. 513 00:52:08,550 --> 00:52:11,290 There's no conspiracy on trying to push a project forward. 514 00:52:11,590 --> 00:52:14,290 There's just wheels are in motion and the support is going to do their due diligence. 515 00:52:14,890 --> 00:52:17,130 And I assure you they'll be plenty of discussion on that. 516 00:52:17,490 --> 00:52:19,650 With regard to Malat, buy you. 517 00:52:20,530 --> 00:52:22,530 Commissioner Berkett, can you give us an update? 518 00:52:22,910 --> 00:52:25,610 I'm a little out of the loop on what's currently happening in Malat, 519 00:52:25,610 --> 00:52:29,810 by you. I know I've seen some photos of one resident's back yard. 520 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:37,900 That's directly on the by you with dirt piled up and I don't know if we're referring to Arthur Hawk's house or if we're referring to something else that happened. 521 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:53,640 Yes, there had been issues with, which are Hawk's house, when it was under construction without a proper erosion control. Those have been scripted. 522 00:52:53,640 --> 00:53:23,540 The last thing that brought up, I don't have that five o'clock that morning, I'm pulling my truck up if still dark, I'm pulling my truck up to the boat ramp, and with the head last my truck, I walk out on the dock, and I actually see the concrete down below, so that tells me the by-use particular clear, I went back down there, and I was down there that morning, trying to figure out where the violation was, I paned it out, but it being dark, I couldn't get the exact location address, I went back down there, 523 00:53:23,540 --> 00:53:29,940 10 o'clock that morning, found the address, sent it to Assistant County Administrator. 524 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:35,480 They started the case on it, and I went back to the Bay of York 10 o'clock. 525 00:53:35,700 --> 00:53:38,760 I have a picture on my back pocket, Jared, do you have that picture? 526 00:53:39,060 --> 00:53:39,740 We pull it. 527 00:53:42,230 --> 00:53:45,830 That's what Bay of York 10 o'clock, okay? 528 00:53:46,650 --> 00:53:48,690 So I'm doing everything I possibly can. 529 00:53:48,850 --> 00:53:51,610 There's every issue down there, absolutely there is. 530 00:53:51,610 --> 00:53:58,590 the people are breaking up. All the laws every day. I speed limit speech by people on the 531 00:53:58,590 --> 00:54:05,610 sixteenth and seventeenth. Through schools, I was on my day. So to say we can cure everything, 532 00:54:07,230 --> 00:54:11,950 like administrative administrators, and see it in the interview, let's go and use journal, 533 00:54:12,690 --> 00:54:16,570 let's get it. Founding three news, which typically they don't put the whole story down. 534 00:54:19,020 --> 00:54:22,440 And that's why I don't like the interview with them. And I just go and record seeing that. 535 00:54:25,130 --> 00:54:31,630 You go have people to scumbrate a lot, but as soon as we find out, we will get all the cases. 536 00:54:32,930 --> 00:54:39,070 Teared, if I'm not mistaken, the violator has been found inside it, and we'll be contained 537 00:54:39,070 --> 00:54:43,090 until he brings this into compliance with our name as that correct. 538 00:54:43,130 --> 00:54:44,150 That is correct. 539 00:54:45,510 --> 00:54:47,090 I just want to get that taken here. 540 00:54:47,370 --> 00:54:48,030 Thank you, sir. 541 00:54:48,810 --> 00:54:49,890 Thank you, Commissioner Brookhead. 542 00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:51,410 I wasn't aware what was going on. 543 00:54:51,490 --> 00:54:54,290 I knew you had been doing something, and I appreciate you letting us know. 544 00:54:55,470 --> 00:55:09,050 And I know you care deeply about that, you're district in that community, I know you care deeply about the waterways and we've had many discussions about land development code and what the right thing to do is appreciate your diligence on that. 545 00:55:09,050 --> 00:55:13,190 And I know that if there was something that you needed a board to help on, you would have brought that forward. 546 00:55:13,310 --> 00:55:18,490 But thank you for clearing that out because I saw some different photos and had some concerns as well. 547 00:55:20,270 --> 00:55:23,390 One last thing, and I see the folks, some of the folks that we're here talk about, 548 00:55:23,470 --> 00:55:31,710 seven-brue left, but if we have an issue with equipment not properly being charged up, 549 00:55:31,710 --> 00:55:34,710 can we just make sure that we have some policies in place, 550 00:55:35,550 --> 00:55:38,230 or at least on those of us that we have control over, 551 00:55:38,230 --> 00:55:40,110 or the county has control over regard to code enforcement. 552 00:55:40,770 --> 00:55:46,890 If there is additional training or some oversight that needs to be discussed with law enforcement, 553 00:55:46,890 --> 00:55:50,170 with the sheriff's office because I know we gave a number of those units to them. 554 00:55:51,370 --> 00:55:55,890 Then let's let's kind of figure out what needs to happen there and make sure we have an 555 00:55:55,890 --> 00:56:00,890 open line of communication on that. If I could Mr. Chairman, just two notes. So first, yes, 556 00:56:01,030 --> 00:56:05,350 absolutely will do that. I do believe some of the problematic equipment was that that's maintained 557 00:56:05,350 --> 00:56:10,070 by the sheriff's office, so we'll coordinate with them. But I did speak to Ms. Linda yesterday and then 558 00:56:10,070 --> 00:56:13,770 again this morning. We're trying to get a meeting set up with the regional manager of seven brew. 559 00:56:13,770 --> 00:56:19,170 Obviously, we have an issue with the code definitions, because if it doesn't meet the code requirement, 560 00:56:19,590 --> 00:56:25,090 you can't write a citation, but the best we can do with the lack of any changes to the code 561 00:56:25,090 --> 00:56:29,930 is sit down with the folks at the table and try to get some better coordination and a little bit of 562 00:56:29,930 --> 00:56:32,990 neighborliness. So we're working on that, but that is the next step. 563 00:56:33,930 --> 00:56:38,610 Agreed. Thank you. I think communication is always key. Go ahead. 564 00:56:39,510 --> 00:56:44,450 And I wish the people who are still here, but I don't want everybody to know. 565 00:56:45,310 --> 00:56:48,430 On my own time, which, when you're a commissioner, you have no own time. 566 00:56:49,050 --> 00:56:50,330 I'll live on a black thing. 567 00:56:50,610 --> 00:56:57,330 That's maybe making trips by there at different times, and recording, even though this is not a, 568 00:56:57,330 --> 00:57:02,150 something like a holding court, but it gives me some idea of what the violation is. 569 00:57:02,470 --> 00:57:07,570 I've yet to find it meeting, and I'm not saying they don't, and I'm sure they do. 570 00:57:07,570 --> 00:57:16,650 But just let people know, I go by their all the time, day, night, Saturday, Sunday, different times, and I record every time I go by their. 571 00:57:17,570 --> 00:57:23,490 The complainer got up there and said on channel 3 and used it, Bobby Burke and namely Bobby Burke didn't do anything. 572 00:57:23,970 --> 00:57:28,310 The very next morning, she said, yeah, I say you took by their all the time. 573 00:57:29,090 --> 00:57:35,510 Okay, so I don't do them, but I'll go there all the time, making recordings, trying to catch the violator. 574 00:57:38,010 --> 00:57:44,510 Ryan had a code enforcement. He goes by then his personal true. My wife goes by there. I put 575 00:57:44,510 --> 00:57:53,810 this program on her. She goes by there. The other day she was at Ornale place next to it, 576 00:57:54,190 --> 00:58:00,250 but she heard loud music and it was coming from a truck. Well, we can. Nothing we can do about that. 577 00:58:01,090 --> 00:58:05,990 Point is, we're trying every way we possibly can to catch these people. 578 00:58:07,170 --> 00:58:12,550 I asked Jared to set up a meeting with the authority of step ahead of me, and I thank 579 00:58:12,550 --> 00:58:12,950 you for that. 580 00:58:13,570 --> 00:58:17,630 But, set up meeting with a reasonable manager or owner of the thing, see if we can't get 581 00:58:17,630 --> 00:58:18,830 this taken care of. 582 00:58:18,990 --> 00:58:22,950 I mean, the people needs to have the right to prophecy, and I'm all about that. 583 00:58:23,110 --> 00:58:28,790 But I cannot take, they're about, and correct me, Mr. Tony, if I'm wrong, or Mr. Tony. 584 00:58:28,790 --> 00:58:37,310 I cannot take their recording or their word and go to court with hearsay evidence and basically 585 00:58:37,310 --> 00:58:39,190 that's why it is my not correct. 586 00:58:39,510 --> 00:58:45,070 No, with a decibel standard ordinance because you have to have the decibel, like just 587 00:58:45,070 --> 00:58:47,990 like a speed gun for a speeding ticket. 588 00:58:48,730 --> 00:58:52,390 Yes, I just want everybody to know I'm doing everything I possibly can. 589 00:58:53,570 --> 00:58:55,550 They in that I make trips by their. 590 00:58:55,550 --> 00:59:01,190 So until we can catch them, we're going to think of this, but we are going to hopefully get this 591 00:59:01,190 --> 00:59:05,830 lift and bird with a region of manager. I personally like to get the hornar instead of 592 00:59:05,830 --> 00:59:11,830 region manager, a possible, get this lift and the bird, but they have the right to privacy. And 593 00:59:11,830 --> 00:59:17,950 somehow, some way we're going to make it happen. Thank you. I'm through. Thank you for clearing that up 594 00:59:17,950 --> 00:59:22,510 and showing what it wants again, how much due diligence you put out there. One last thing, 595 00:59:23,810 --> 00:59:31,050 I'm not sure where this conspiracy with regard to NDAs and data centers and all this came from. 596 00:59:32,910 --> 00:59:37,290 I haven't gone back and watched the interview that I did with Blackwater Report. 597 00:59:37,350 --> 00:59:39,470 And I may have said something about NDAs. 598 00:59:39,650 --> 00:59:43,430 I certainly don't remember saying that I specifically assigned an NDA. 599 00:59:44,570 --> 00:59:49,610 And I can assure everyone here that I've only signed one NDA in my entire life that I can ever remember. 600 00:59:50,210 --> 00:59:53,850 And that is when I was selling my business back in December. 601 00:59:56,690 --> 00:59:59,890 So, I've signed no NDAs with regards. 602 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:06,660 Company's common. I just know that when when when a company is interesting coming to the area and I'm 603 01:00:06,660 --> 01:00:12,080 brought into the conversation that I know that we don't talk about company names. And I think 604 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:25,700 everyone's aware of the legal reasons for that. Jim, if you're good with it, we'll just move on to the 605 01:00:25,700 --> 01:00:36,680 center. The board did that, not her. They didn't want to be on the beach. At all. Take it 606 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:43,160 to the board, teach these board. They came up with some of this, not Julie. Y'all are hammering 607 01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:51,520 her for no reason. It's time to stop doing her that way. This slide is not here. She started 608 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:52,780 I'll just pull the ball out. 609 01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:58,340 I'm going to tell you right now, I'm going to ask this board all five of us. 610 01:00:58,700 --> 01:01:00,360 Let's step back on this down thing. 611 01:01:00,620 --> 01:01:01,900 I'm sorry for saying this. 612 01:01:02,260 --> 01:01:04,240 Let's do away with that center. 613 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,460 Deal away with the parking lot. 614 01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:07,560 Deal away with the bathroom. 615 01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,360 Let's step back and don't put it out there. 616 01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:11,680 Just the boardwalk only. 617 01:01:12,380 --> 01:01:15,240 That's what I request y'all to do. 618 01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,880 Deal away with the parking lot. 619 01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:19,660 The seventh center 620 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:24,260 Bathroom just the boardwalk and that's the other that's all what they need 621 01:01:25,340 --> 01:01:31,880 If that's what they want, but I really would love to have my name on that building, but they don't want it take it away 622 01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:37,740 I wish ever no man. We already had your three minutes. No, you had your three minutes 623 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:42,440 we are done 624 01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:43,740 I wish 625 01:01:43,740 --> 01:01:48,480 We could pass the ordinance if you're house on that beach gets 50% 626 01:01:49,500 --> 01:02:01,140 the store, you cannot rebuild, add out. Like they do in the Carolinas on the beach. Then we would do away with all these buildings houses out there on that beach. 627 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:13,620 That would be a stop to it. It wouldn't be no buildings out there in no houses. That's what we want. That's what you all want. I've had people call me. Why don't we put a toe on the bridge? I tried that. 628 01:02:13,620 --> 01:02:19,420 why didn't you come before a stat day? Well, my neighbor will be upset with me 629 01:02:19,420 --> 01:02:25,380 here on the beach, they don't want it, but we really need it. Well, you should have been here. 630 01:02:26,060 --> 01:02:32,600 You should have been here. I'm sorry, you don't get it now. Then I got accused of sending 631 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:42,820 Keldonforcer and on a business. And that I did because one man in this room today kept complaining to me, 632 01:02:42,820 --> 01:02:47,600 over and over and over about a dumpster in the county right away. 633 01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:55,480 I had the kelvin force to go over, tell the man to move it because he agreed to do it at the zoning board. 634 01:02:56,740 --> 01:03:00,020 And I did have, and that man sitting out here right now, 635 01:03:00,660 --> 01:03:03,560 kept complaining about that damn dumpster in the county right away. 636 01:03:03,700 --> 01:03:04,840 I did turn it in. 637 01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:10,140 My name because he wouldn't do it because now he's buddy buddy with him. 638 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:11,220 That's how it is. 639 01:03:16,250 --> 01:03:22,850 I can hear the frustration and your voice just as a reminder though, we can't take any action on those projects today. 640 01:03:23,390 --> 01:03:24,550 We'll move on to the consent agenda. 641 01:03:25,210 --> 01:03:29,050 Are there any questions or concerns with the consent agenda presented? 642 01:03:29,630 --> 01:03:29,790 All right. 643 01:03:30,010 --> 01:03:30,410 Seeing none. 644 01:03:30,630 --> 01:03:31,590 We'll pass the consent agenda. 645 01:03:32,770 --> 01:03:35,190 And we've got one item on the regular agenda in engineering. 646 01:03:36,890 --> 01:03:38,690 Mr. Chairman, there's no concerns on that one. 647 01:03:38,690 --> 01:03:40,870 We've addressed the comments from DOT. 648 01:03:40,870 --> 01:03:50,170 Typically, we wouldn't bring a contract you've already approved back to the board, but the OT sometimes is a little finicky about grant projects, so that if you'll approve it, there's no additional action that needs to be taken. 649 01:03:50,710 --> 01:03:54,170 Okay, so all the questions that were where we had on Tuesday were answered. 650 01:03:54,830 --> 01:03:56,390 All right, any questions from the board? 651 01:03:56,890 --> 01:03:57,510 I think further. 652 01:03:58,310 --> 01:04:04,770 All right, we'll approve that one without objection since I see no opposition that addresses the agenda. 653 01:04:05,290 --> 01:04:07,470 We'll just move on to the meeting list this evening. 654 01:04:07,470 --> 01:04:17,720 At 5 o'clock we have a commission special rezoning board meeting. I mistakenly said 5.30 at Tuesday's meeting. So I apologize 5 o'clock tonight rezoning board meeting tonight 655 01:04:18,250 --> 01:04:22,860 September 3rd I830 AM the tourist development council meeting will be held at 656 01:04:23,590 --> 01:04:26,210 1370 Tiger Parkling as the Tiger Point Community Center 657 01:04:26,210 --> 01:04:29,900 So if people have concerns about that project, I would say show it for that 658 01:04:30,470 --> 01:04:36,510 September 8 at 830. We have a commission committee meeting in this board room. September 8 at 530 PM 659 01:04:36,510 --> 01:04:41,750 the first budget and msb public hearing will be held by this board in this board room. 660 01:04:41,910 --> 01:04:45,810 September 10th at 830 a.m. commission regular meeting in this board room. 661 01:04:45,970 --> 01:04:49,370 September 10th at 5 p.m. the zoning board will meet here. 662 01:04:50,070 --> 01:04:53,790 September 22nd at 830 a.m. we'll have a commission committee meeting here. 663 01:04:54,130 --> 01:04:59,590 September 22nd at 530 p.m. we'll have the second and final budget msb public hearing. 664 01:05:00,610 --> 01:05:06,350 September 23rd at 2 p.m. the domes board meeting will be held at 5961 commerce road. 665 01:05:07,810 --> 01:05:11,370 September 24th at 8.30 a.m., we'll have a commission regular meeting back in this 666 01:05:11,370 --> 01:05:12,230 border as well. 667 01:05:12,470 --> 01:05:16,830 And this September 24th at 5 p.m., a commission special rezoning board meeting will 668 01:05:16,830 --> 01:05:17,590 be held in this room. 669 01:05:17,710 --> 01:05:21,310 And gentlemen, just so we'll go ahead and put it out now, it's already on my calendar. 670 01:05:21,650 --> 01:05:26,430 But I will not be present physically on the September 24th meetings, I will be out of town 671 01:05:26,430 --> 01:05:26,990 with family. 672 01:05:26,990 --> 01:05:31,190 However, I will make an attempt to call in for those meetings if possible. 673 01:05:31,790 --> 01:05:36,470 There are no matters to come for us, all right, see you now, we are done.