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» We good?

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>> Um, welcome to Santa Quinn City Council

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regular meeting. Happy, uh, St.

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Patrick's Day. It's the 17th of March.

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So, uh, good to have you all here and,

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uh, we'll get underway.

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>> We'll dispense with the roll call as

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everyone is present. Excuse me. and

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would like to ask if someone would like

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to lead us in a pledge of allegiance.

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>> I'll be glad to.

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>> We got a scout.

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>> We have a boy scout.

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>> Step up.

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>> Don't say no to that.

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>> Step up to the microphone.

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>> A man in uniform. Yes.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America

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>> and to the republic for which it stands,

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one nation under God, indivisible, with

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liberty and justice for all.

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>> Thank you. I'd like to also ask if

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someone would like to offer an

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inspirational thought or give us an

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invocation.

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Mayor, I'd be happy to do that.

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>> Okay. Thank you.

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>> Our father in heaven, we come before

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thee at this time and thank thee for the

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opportunity we have to be here this

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evening to discuss the needs and

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concerns and items of business in San

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Quinn City. We ask thy spirit to be with

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us and we ask you to to please bless our

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public safety and our public works and

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all of our employees that they can be

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safe as they go about serving our

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community and our residents. And we ask

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thee to to do the same for us as we're

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here serving this night. and watch over

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our families as we're away from them

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that we may return home safely. We're

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grateful for all of our many blessings

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and all acknowledge thy hand in all

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things. And we say this in the name of

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thy son Jesus Christ. Amen.

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>> Amen.

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>> Thank you. Um I need to know if any of

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the council have a declaration of a

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potential conflict of interest on any of

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the items that we're going to discuss

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tonight.

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>> Seeing none, we'll move on and we'll go

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to the consent agenda. um start with

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minutes of March the 3rd for the work

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session. We've had a chance to read

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through them. Are there any additions or

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corrections? Any items that need to be

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brought up?

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Seeing none, we'll move on to uh the 3rd

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of March for the regular council

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meeting. Same question.

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No issues. Then we'll move on to the

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27th of February, the council budget

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meeting, planning meeting minutes. Um,

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any issues or anything you want to bring

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>> And, uh, the 28th uh, council budget

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planning meeting minutes.

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can we include the the printouts? You

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>> Oh, okay. So, yes, we can if you'll just

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make that part of your motion. We can

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add those to that. And I apologize. I

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thought we had those in there, but we'll

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>> I guess I could bring the papers in. I

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have he's got the PS too quickly.

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those to Stephanie if you'll just make

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are the bills. Uh

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tablets? Um, was it Are we paying for

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that we have lots of service. We have

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hotspots. We have tablets that have

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department. and our public works are

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have an incredible system that

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engineering has put together where they

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phone and go out on the street and say,

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"Yep, that valve is buried right here

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under the asphalt or under the road base

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or something like that." So, I'm not

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sure which ones these are, but yes,

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tablets and and many of those tablets

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items, the minutes and the bills. I

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>> I'll make that motion to approve the

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consent agenda adding um the four

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handout packets um that are missing that

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>> Moved and seconded. Travis

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>> I motion passed. We can go on to public

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forum. And did anybody sign up?

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good. Uh, first part, however, uh, for

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the public forum, I've asked our new

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royalty to come tonight. I had a

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wonderful evening the other night and,

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uh, we didn't have time to get it on the

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agenda and so I asked you to come and be

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a part of our public forum. And so, um,

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what I would like you to do is stand up

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and introduce yourself, each of you, and

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you can all just walk up together. It's

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kind of a team thing you got going on.

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make sure the names are straight. And,

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know, dogs, bag pipes, or opera, you

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know, could be the total of of where we

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go from here. But um I would I would

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like you to stand up just take a a

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minute or two each and and but come up

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together and then afterwards we want to

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picture with the whole council in front

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of here. So guys, you need to look

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>> Yeah, I have no hope.

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>> Step up to the microphone.

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>> Just got my hair done.

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>> These are our new confused royalty.

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>> They're brand new. It's okay.

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>> My name is Jamie Suninger. I am your

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Miss Santa Quinn 2026 and I'm super

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excited to have this position. I've been

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wanting to be Miss Sanquinn for a total

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of three years. I do live in Ganola, but

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I still feel like part of Santa Quinn.

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I've probably spent I sleep in Janola. I

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>> Um my would you like to hear about my

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platform and my plans for that?

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>> Yes, please.

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>> My platform is bridging music, bridging

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generations of music. I'll cut all the

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fluffy stuff, but basically I am going

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to be create visiting seniors and

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especially longtime residents of Sanquin

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and veterans and making a living

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database that um our Sanquin residents

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can access to learn more about the

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history and the people of our town. And

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I will also be organizing music and

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dance events to be free for our citizens

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to come to.

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>> And what's your zip code? Uh 84655.

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>> We're good to go.

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>> Can we annex them in tonight? And

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>> I'm gonna let you talk to Mayor Brown

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>> first attendant. So, uh Jenna,

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my name is Jenna Mlen. I am your first

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attendant for 2026.

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Um I am very excited to be here. I don't

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know like a whole ton. I've never been

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to a a city council meeting before, so

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this is really exciting and I'm super

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excited to meet all of you. Um,

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yeah, I I don't know what else to share

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about myself.

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>> Tell these guys what you did. Well, most

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of us were there, but tell them what you

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did for your talent because it was

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amazing.

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>> Oh, thank you. Thank you. I I sang

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opera. So, I sang um an Arya titled

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Quando Manvo from the opera Labo. It's

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in Italian. It was super fun and had a

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really good time. It

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>> was incredible.

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>> Thank you. You're so

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>> It was Okay. Thank you, Paisley.

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>> Hi guys. My name is Paisley Terry. I am

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this year's second attendant. Um I go to

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school at PAC High. I am a junior and I

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am the vice president of my FFA chapter.

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Um I did dog dancing for my talent. Love

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you a lot.

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>> Um what else would you like to know? So

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tell them a little bit more about the

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dog dancing. It wasn't just a dance. She

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has this dog trained.

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>> It was unreal. Just tell them a little

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>> What kind of dog is it? Gordon Setter.

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>> My dog is a mini golden doodle. They

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have the attention span attention span

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of like 30 seconds. So it was very hard

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to train her. But I've trained her for

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three years now. And so I really enjoyed

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>> it was awesome.

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>> Okay, any questions?

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>> What a what a great evening. again. Uh

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such a variety of talent but incredible

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talent and uh uh thank you for accepting

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this role that you've undertaken and we

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hope that we wear you out in the next

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year with new businesses and

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opportunities to serve and we look

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forward to that. So let's step up here.

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>> Thank you. Thank you so much.

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We want to

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>> probably stand behind you.

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» No, but I thought you were like,

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» we want you right in front of us because

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we don't want to be hiding.

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» Come on.

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not get the podium. There we go. All

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right. Ready? One, two, three.

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Thank you so much.

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>> Wait a minute.

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» December.

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» Oh yeah.

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» Kids event. Can you see that?

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» Okay.

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>> Training dogs is a lot harder than it

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looks.

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>> Training dogs is a lot.

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>> All right. So, I have a a handout for

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all of you actually. So, I'll just get

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out of here.

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>> I do want you to introduce yourself when

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you when you get going. Oh, you can hand

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» Thank you.

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» All right. So, uh, my name is Jackson

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Jensen. I am part of Scout Troop 101.

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Actually, also out of Ganola, but I live

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here in Sanquin.

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Upgrade.

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Whoa.

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Um, and

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uh,

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>> so much for kind.

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>> Let's see. Oh,

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>> all right. Um, I would like to propose,

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plan, and execute a free food pantry in

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Sanquuquin as my Eagle project. Um, I

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really like the idea of my project

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benefiting the community in such a

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simple yet profound way, helping with

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food insecurities. I've had family

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who've benefited from this in various

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times of our lives and in various

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communities. I feel like it's a worthy

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cause for my time. If you look in the

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back of the packet, we included um some

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pictures. Um PAC has actually done a

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very similar thing. Uh it we've talked

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to many of of the people in San Quinn of

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the ones who've set it up and and who

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use it and they say it's been very uh

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very popular and

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just works very well. Um, I've secured a

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donor from a a business in this in the

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San Quinn community who wishes to remain

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anonymous, but who understands the

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important of this project and has

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pledged to fund up up to the whole

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project.

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Um, uh, for the upkeep, the youth city

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council has stated that they will take

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it under their wing to check it

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regularly and make sure that it stays

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clean and nice. Um,

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and all all the hours will be volunteer

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from uh the scout troop and some of my

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friends and stuff like that who will be

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helping out. So, city won't have to pay

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anything or have to have anybody come.

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I'll take care of it all. What I I just

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need is permission uh to place it on

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city property and uh basically guidance on where you guys uh would

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think it would be best to go. Um, some

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locations I've thought of are the police

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station parking lot or in front of the

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library right over here by the community

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garden.

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>> Uh, these are open places that aren't,

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you know, right on Main Street where I

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everyone can see, but still good places

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that can be monitored but also a little

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private too. Uh, thank you for your time

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and I hope to bring this important

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project to Santa Quinn. I I like the

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idea of the library or the the UP cabin,

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you know, just some place in that

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general area over there.

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>> Wasn't Wasn't there a community garden

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over there, too?

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>> There is a community garden, huh?

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>> I think that'd be a great location.

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>> Any other questions, Jackson?

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>> I'll I'll make a comment. Jackson, this

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is awesome.

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>> I am really really impressed. Um, cool.

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It's really awesome. Thank you. So,

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Jackson, I this is such a fantastic

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idea. So, I worked for the police

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department in PAC and PAC had one of

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these little boxes and actually started

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out the sight of a birdhouse and it

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became so popular, it just wasn't big

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enough. And uh I all throughout the

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hours of the day and the night, you

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would see people putting things in it

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and people taking things out of it. It

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was never vandalized. It was well taken

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care of. It sat just outside the city

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building and it was just an asset to the

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community. And I think if we do it right

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and put it in the right location, I

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think it could be just the exact same

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thing. And I think

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>> Travis, what do you think about over by

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the library?

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>> I think when when uh Chelsea called me

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and talked to me about this, I I thought

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just kind of over by the library where

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the community garden was off to the

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side. I thought that was a great place

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because, you know, one of the things too

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is

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>> one of the things that I think people

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like about this is the the if I can say

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this word right, the anonymity

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>> of being able to go

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>> and take what they need without

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>> having to go and ask for it.

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>> Well, donors like to be anonymous, too.

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>> Yes, exactly. Like to be anonymous when

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they put things in it. And I have seen

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everything from food to diapers go into

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the one in PAC. So there's no limit of

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what can put be put into this and what

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can be taken out of it and it's just all

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limited by the imagination of the people

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who want to help and the people who

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need. So I think this could be a really

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good thing.

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I only have one question with it and

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that is uh will when you have the the

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youth council come and look at it, make

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sure things are okay, check for

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expiration dates or real hot

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temperatures that may affect canned

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foods or you know that kind of worries

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me a little bit. But

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>> let's get our youth here to help us out

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for the city council.

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>> No. So if I can is it okay if I just

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inter

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>> interject here?

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>> Uh no, please.

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>> Okay. Uh, I like to hear myself talk, so

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I'll just keep going. As you know, I'm

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Chelsea Rolley and I'm the youth city

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council mentor with Santa and I work

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with Travis. Um, in consideration of

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that, I asked PAC city council Ryan

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Rolley. I was like, "How how's the food?

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Are we worried about spoilage?" And he

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said, "No, it gets filled and emptied

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every single day." He's like, "We're not

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worried about expiration at all. It has

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become so needed and so popular that has not been a problem."

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>> Um, I prepared some facts for you. I

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don't know if this is a hard sale. Do

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you want to hear the Utah food

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insecurity facts? Sure, let's do it.

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So, I am here to support Jackson

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tonight. He approached me for ideas on

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how to implement his Eagle Scout project

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for a community pantry. And of course, I

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was like, "Yes, absolutely. We need to

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do this." Um, I've personally been

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floating that idea for many years. I

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just never really felt like I had the

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right um pieces in place to make it

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happen. Um, my philosophical farmer

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quote of the night is, uh, the best time

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to plant a tree was 20 years ago.

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>> The next best time is today. And that's

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how I feel about the community pantry.

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Um, I feel it's the right time. We have

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the right people. We have the right

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sponsors and resources. And we have the

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right need in our community to make this

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project a reality. The gap between what

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many Utah families need and what they

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can afford is rapidly widening.

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Utah Food Bank said nearly half of those

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experienced food insecurity don't

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qualify for federal assistance. Rising

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food prices, economic uncertainty, and

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unstable federal support and shutdowns

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are putting struggling families under

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immense strain. Even those who qualify

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are not always able to access the

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benefits they need. Today, KSL had an

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article that said at Utah State

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University, their food pantry averaged

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5,000 students, but now it's serving

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30,000 students. One in eight Utons are

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food insecure, which includes one in

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every five children with seniors having

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a similar demographic. Utah Food Bank

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has seen a 35% increase in those already

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in need just this year. So, this is the

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time to make this happen.

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My favorite thing about Santa Quinn is

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the people. We look out for each other.

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This is an additional way that we can

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ensure that we're taking care of one

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another. We are hoping the council will

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take this on as an initiative by

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approving a central location that can be

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easily accessed by the community. We

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hope you'll support this pantry with a

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resounding yes. Our residents should not

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go hungry. All of the community

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businesses and members I have reached

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out to said they are willing and ready

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to support this project with food

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donations. They are excited about the

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possibility to help in our own

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community. A food pantry will bless both

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those who give and those that receive.

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Uh, please feel free to reach out to me

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or Jackson with additional questions.

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Um, thank you guys so much for the

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services you provide to our community.

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Um, and we hope that we can make a

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prompt decision on this so that he can

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rock and roll with his Eagle Scout

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project.

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>> I I do want to ask one thing. How do we

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ensure it doesn't tip over in the wind?

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I've seen outouses go flying about this

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size.

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>> Okay,

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>> so if you look at uh those picture

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packets,

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>> I'm looking at them. the one of the

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bottom ones.

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>> I don't think it's in there.

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>> Oh, it's not in there.

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>> It's on this

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>> on on on this page on the bottom. They

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have uh come up and show each of you.

530
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>> So, what he's saying is there's a

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weathered wood on the bottom and it has

532
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like little

533
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>> spikes drilled into the ground.

534
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>> Kind of make sure it doesn't get blown

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or tipped over.

536
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>> So, it's an it's anchored into the

537
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>> Yeah, it's anchored down.

538
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>> Great. And we're totally willing to just

539
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like do this on a probationary,

540
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>> you know, give us six months, see how it

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goes. And if it's getting trash, if it's

542
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something that the community is not

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finding value in, we are happy to like

544
00:21:58,159 --> 00:21:59,360
take it and move it to a different

545
00:21:59,360 --> 00:22:00,159
location. But

546
00:22:00,159 --> 00:22:01,919
>> this is this is awesome. I know multiple

547
00:22:01,919 --> 00:22:03,360
people that have brought this up that

548
00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:05,120
have said, I wish there was something

549
00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:08,240
like this. I don't think that this is

550
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,000
something that has to be probationary. I

551
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,760
think that this is something that will

552
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,400
get used if not what I'm thinking about

553
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,000
is I'm like, is this big enough? that

554
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:16,559
would

555
00:22:16,559 --> 00:22:18,240
>> because I'm thinking like if you put I

556
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,200
think of getting diapers for my kids

557
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,720
>> how many diaper boxes are going to fill

558
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,080
there and I know we have such a young

559
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,000
population here I think that's like the

560
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,360
things that people would really benefit

561
00:22:27,360 --> 00:22:29,760
from so I'm just concerned like is this

562
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,679
big enough this picture from PA I'm like

563
00:22:31,679 --> 00:22:33,360
I don't know if that's big enough but

564
00:22:33,360 --> 00:22:35,440
>> so and that was my concern too I'm like

565
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,360
bigger is always better but it helps

566
00:22:37,360 --> 00:22:39,440
with it being regularly rotated because

567
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:40,880
there's not enough room for something to

568
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,159
sit for a long time they're going to

569
00:22:42,159 --> 00:22:44,640
come and grab it um we have several

570
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,960
community, you know, social media pages

571
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,799
where people will alert and say, "I've

572
00:22:48,799 --> 00:22:50,720
just dropped off size ones. Go grab

573
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,559
them. I've just dropped off this. Go get

574
00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:54,240
it." That's how it works in PAC. They'll

575
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,240
say, "I put all my garden produce in

576
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,159
today. Please go grab it." And people

577
00:22:58,159 --> 00:23:00,240
are pretty responsive to go get that

578
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,240
before anything's spoiled. So,

579
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,080
>> it sure be nice to see some positive

580
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,000
things on our community pages, too.

581
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,280
>> Yeah.

582
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,000
>> When What's your time frame?

583
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:10,640
>> Go ahead.

584
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,280
>> Um, as soon as possible. How how long

585
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:14,559
will it take you?

586
00:23:14,559 --> 00:23:17,760
>> Um, it'll probably take us maybe a week

587
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,159
or two just to assemble everything, like

588
00:23:20,159 --> 00:23:22,480
get all all of our parts and all this

589
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,080
stuff that we need, but then it'll

590
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,960
probably just take a day to build with

591
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,320
the amount of people I'm planning on

592
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,760
having help. Uh, but um I I also wanted

593
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,200
to point out that we're going to design

594
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,760
it in such a way like we're going to try

595
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:40,000
and have it north facing and painted in light light colors and stuff like

596
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,360
that so it also doesn't become a

597
00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:42,799
microwave.

598
00:23:42,799 --> 00:23:47,600
>> So much I want to point that out.

599
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:48,799
>> Okay.

600
00:23:48,799 --> 00:23:51,600
>> I don't think anybody's opposed to this.

601
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,440
Where do you want to put it?

602
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,200
>> I like that where we started over here.

603
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,159
I like the library.

604
00:23:56,159 --> 00:23:56,720
>> That's great.

605
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,799
>> Agree. or right next to the community

606
00:23:58,799 --> 00:24:00,320
garden between that and the library. I

607
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:01,840
think that'd be a really good spot.

608
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,080
>> Maybe even behind the cabin so you get

609
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,120
some extra sun shade,

610
00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:08,960
>> but it needs to be in the open where

611
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,400
people will see it and find it.

612
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:10,799
>> That's true.

613
00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:12,799
>> Or where it's accessible too, you know,

614
00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:14,320
in the winter so they don't have to walk

615
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,120
through snow

616
00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:16,240
>> those gardens every day when they're

617
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:16,799
growing them.

618
00:24:16,799 --> 00:24:18,400
>> So there there's quite a few aspects

619
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,320
here that will involve public works just

620
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:21,840
for coordination. If we're putting

621
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,760
stakes in the ground, we don't want them

622
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,200
to go through sprinkler lines. If we

623
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,880
need to relocate a sprinkler head, we

624
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,159
can certainly do that. Yeah.

625
00:24:28,159 --> 00:24:30,000
>> So, I think what would be best is maybe

626
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,000
to get this young man involved with

627
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:37,360
public works and just say, "Hey, let's meet on site."

628
00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:39,600
>> I I also think if they're going to put

629
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,679
it on the side of a sidewalk or

630
00:24:41,679 --> 00:24:43,200
somewhere that's over there, they could

631
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,240
do it that maybe we get some rotomill or

632
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,440
something that would give a good base so

633
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,039
that you could walk around it and not

634
00:24:51,039 --> 00:24:52,720
get muddy at sometime.

635
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,240
>> Yeah. Again, I think the best thing to

636
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,320
do is if that's the general location

637
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,400
that you're talking about, then we just

638
00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,919
have them get with public works and take

639
00:24:59,919 --> 00:25:01,279
all these things into consideration

640
00:25:01,279 --> 00:25:02,880
because again, we don't want to

641
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,400
>> if they have to mow there or if there's

642
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:05,760
a sprinkler that's shooting into the

643
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:06,960
bottom of the box and none of that's

644
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,000
going to be good. We want to make sure

645
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,919
that we just plan it properly and even

646
00:25:09,919 --> 00:25:12,400
if there's a even if there's a small

647
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,240
concrete pad or something and it has to

648
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,799
sit on or or a concrete pad like a

649
00:25:16,799 --> 00:25:18,240
sidewalk that has to come around the

650
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,360
back,

651
00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:21,360
>> ADA is another thing that that we need

652
00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:23,360
to look at. So, I think it's good to

653
00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:27,279
just have all these things and then I'm happy to work or I'm sure John's

654
00:25:27,279 --> 00:25:29,760
happy to work with public works and and

655
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,760
the Eagle Scout to to just say, "Hey,

656
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,120
this is probably where it's going to be

657
00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:35,679
best." Keeping in mind all of the things

658
00:25:35,679 --> 00:25:37,520
that we've talked about, visibility,

659
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,799
sun, shade, access, all those types of

660
00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:41,440
things.

661
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,760
>> So, probably both uh John and and Jason,

662
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:46,640
>> correct?

663
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:47,919
>> Let's get it done.

664
00:25:47,919 --> 00:25:50,640
>> So, what Norm is saying is be flexible.

665
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,440
>> Yeah. Okay. Ju just remember that some

666
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:54,480
of the things that have been brought up

667
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:55,679
are very important. Some of the things

668
00:25:55,679 --> 00:25:57,520
that you have, but does it need to be

669
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,120
wheelchair accessible? Right. We have

670
00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:00,400
there's some areas over there that

671
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,320
aren't wheelchair accessible. Totally.

672
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,000
>> And that's what I mean by ADA. That's a

673
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,440
federal law that if we're making stuff

674
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,360
available on a public, then it has to

675
00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:09,600
meet ADA requirements. And so all of

676
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,279
those things we can work on. It just is

677
00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:13,120
a matter of how, when, and where we can

678
00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:14,960
make that work. So, I would just have

679
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,640
you coordinate with with our public

680
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,039
works director, Jason Callaway, and you

681
00:26:19,039 --> 00:26:20,559
can get a hold of me directly and I can

682
00:26:20,559 --> 00:26:21,919
put you in touch with him and then we

683
00:26:21,919 --> 00:26:22,880
can go from there.

684
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,400
>> Okay. Thank you. Um,

685
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,480
>> during the cons during the construction,

686
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,840
would there be merit to consider

687
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,679
insulating it?

688
00:26:29,679 --> 00:26:31,840
>> Uh, yeah, sure.

689
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,600
>> Just an idea.

690
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,559
>> Um, and then one other thing, I also

691
00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:38,720
>> I have to get it passed by Scouting

692
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:39,760
America first.

693
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:40,080
>> Yes.

694
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,840
>> And we're not sure how long that might

695
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,480
take. So, You know, it's okay.

696
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,640
>> It can be anywhere from two weeks to a

697
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,520
month. Okay.

698
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:48,960
>> There's something that works slower than

699
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,799
government.

700
00:26:50,799 --> 00:26:54,480
>> Well, they're government adjacent. So,

701
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,919
>> um just remind it be prepared.

702
00:26:57,919 --> 00:27:00,080
>> Gotcha. When you have

703
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,120
>> good.

704
00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:04,320
>> Okay. So, next steps for us is just get

705
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:05,600
approval and then

706
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:06,480
>> come talk to you guys.

707
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,559
>> So, I I think you already have approval.

708
00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:10,960
It's just the when, where, and how. I I

709
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,080
don't know that there's any official

710
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:12,960
action that needs to be

711
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,360
>> I think it's a scouts help from them.

712
00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:15,919
Yes, correct.

713
00:27:15,919 --> 00:27:16,960
>> I mean, you could probably get it

714
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,799
constructed and then

715
00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:19,840
>> in the meantime

716
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:20,559
>> move it into place

717
00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:22,240
>> and then we can move it into place with

718
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,320
Jason and John and figure out where it

719
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:25,039
needs to go.

720
00:27:25,039 --> 00:27:25,600
>> Okay.

721
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,039
>> I also want to say I've had a lot of

722
00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:28,480
people ask about this sort of thing and

723
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,559
every time they do like, "Yeah, that's a

724
00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:31,600
great idea. We should have something

725
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,760
like that like Jason does. Give me some

726
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,039
ideas on how we can make it work." And

727
00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:38,400
then they never respond back. So I am

728
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,559
I'm grateful that you actually took the

729
00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:42,799
initiative and and actually did it.

730
00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:45,200
>> This is awesome. This is everything that

731
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,400
stand for. So

732
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:47,440
>> absolutely.

733
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:48,480
>> We need this.

734
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:48,799
>> Yeah.

735
00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:49,840
>> Thank you for that proposal.

736
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,440
>> Yes. Thank you so much.

737
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:52,080
>> Okay.

738
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,480
>> I I would just say

739
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:55,919
don't bring it over and get ready to set

740
00:27:55,919 --> 00:27:57,600
it until we've worked with public works

741
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:58,080
to make sure.

742
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,200
>> Oh yes, of course.

743
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,880
>> Show up with it. That might be a little

744
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,880
more challenging than if we coordinate

745
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,320
it in advance. Please

746
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,080
>> just go just go put it up and ask

747
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,760
>> to be prepared and have it done first.

748
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,120
>> Okay. Well,

749
00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:12,880
>> thank you.

750
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,159
>> Let's get her done.

751
00:28:14,159 --> 00:28:15,039
>> All right.

752
00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:18,320
>> I like it. All right. Um

753
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,240
before we do the building permits and

754
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,200
business licenses, let's uh go to items

755
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,640
12, 13, 14, and 15, which is our

756
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,440
community development director uh

757
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,480
resolution for that. uh the services

758
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,440
director and the resolution for that. So

759
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,559
we'll start with 12. Um do you want to

760
00:28:38,559 --> 00:28:42,799
go through that Jason? And

761
00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:48,799
>> yeah, so uh let's see. Last Thursday we did interviews for a new community

762
00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:51,360
development director. Uh we had council

763
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,399
member Travis Ke uh and council member

764
00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:56,640
Lynn Mikum and Mayor Olsson that were a

765
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:01,039
part of that and we appreciate their time with that. We had some really

766
00:29:01,039 --> 00:29:07,200
great candidates. Um, and ultimately we uh are really excited about the the

767
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,240
candidate that we're going to bring

768
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,559
before you tonight. He's here. Uh, his

769
00:29:10,559 --> 00:29:13,039
name is Morgan Brim. He's there um in

770
00:29:13,039 --> 00:29:15,760
his suit in the the back row there. Um,

771
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,520
but yeah, we are really excited about

772
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,360
Morgan. Uh, he was previously the

773
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,720
community development director for

774
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,520
Vineyard City. uh he was there for nine

775
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,640
or 10 years and uh he's he's very

776
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,960
qualified and you know I've had the

777
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,480
opportunity to kind of coordinate and

778
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,440
work with uh with with Morgan on kind of

779
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,039
the next steps through this this uh

780
00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:38,240
interview process and uh the more I talk

781
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,320
to him the more I'm excited about what

782
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,159
he has to to offer and the experience

783
00:29:42,159 --> 00:29:44,720
and the understanding uh in in in the

784
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,880
area of community development. Um so um

785
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,399
I think we've we've been able to work

786
00:29:50,399 --> 00:29:53,039
through a lot of the things um and and

787
00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:55,840
per our policy the um the final

788
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,919
selection is up to the city council.

789
00:29:57,919 --> 00:29:59,520
Obviously we had two councils and the

790
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,360
mayor two council members and the mayor

791
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,640
in the in the interview process. So uh I

792
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,120
guess with that said we have the the

793
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,039
proposed uh employment contract

794
00:30:09,039 --> 00:30:13,120
attached. Uh I know in the packet it was generic. it didn't have specific

795
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,039
names because we were still uh

796
00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:17,200
coordinating and working on on the

797
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,960
specifics of of who we wanted to offer

798
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,440
this to. So, uh that was provided. We

799
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,440
we've we've provided that that

800
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,000
information and we have it uh ready uh

801
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,320
here tonight. But we wanted to bring

802
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,960
Morgan uh to you tonight. If you have

803
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,039
any questions for him, we we would uh

804
00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:34,480
I'm sure he'd be happy to answer any

805
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,480
questions. But we present to you Morgan

806
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,880
Brim uh for the community development

807
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,679
director position.

808
00:30:41,679 --> 00:30:43,919
Hi, it's great to be here.

809
00:30:43,919 --> 00:30:44,799
>> Great to have you here.

810
00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:46,960
>> Introduce yourself a little bit. We

811
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:53,039
don't want you to be too windy, but uh there may be a question or two. I

812
00:30:53,039 --> 00:30:54,559
just want to tell you right up front, I

813
00:30:54,559 --> 00:30:57,039
was very impressed with you and grateful

814
00:30:57,039 --> 00:30:59,760
that you took the time to

815
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:04,320
uh look at being a part of us and your

816
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,240
preparation was exceptional. Thank you.

817
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,520
>> Thank you very much, Mayor. And it's

818
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,240
great to see you, Councilman. Um, Mikum

819
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,640
and Keel. Again, I I found your your

820
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,880
team um your executive leadership team

821
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,360
just to be um really wonderful. I could

822
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,360
tell a lot of time consideration was put

823
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,120
in place as you guys have hired staff

824
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,200
and talking with staff too. I love to

825
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,720
see longevity and that's really

826
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,320
important for for a new hire. You want

827
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,559
to you know you're going into a place

828
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:36,559
that that has some stability. That's really important. Um so I I love

829
00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:38,000
building communities. It's something

830
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,240
that I'm really passionate about. Even

831
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,640
as a little kid, Sim City was my jam.

832
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,159
Um, Vineyard City was a bit bit like uh

833
00:31:46,159 --> 00:31:48,640
Sim City in real life. And I know Santa

834
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,200
Quinn is not Vineyard City, so I'm not I'm not proposing that, but I

835
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,440
absolutely love building teams. I love

836
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,000
collaborating, working with with staff,

837
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,240
working with the mayor and and city

838
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,799
council members. And so I'm uh, you

839
00:32:02,799 --> 00:32:04,720
know, just just really passionate about

840
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,320
working with the public, too. I think

841
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:07,519
that's so important. They're the

842
00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:10,080
lifeblood of your community and that is

843
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,320
where um and and how our planning should be informed and how we move

844
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,919
forward with economic development as

845
00:32:15,919 --> 00:32:18,960
well. I come from I have four sons um

846
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,120
and so when I when I uh work in city

847
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,200
planning, it's really important that it be a city that I that that's

848
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,399
going to be able to accommodate a family

849
00:32:26,399 --> 00:32:28,720
like mine. I also have nine sisters, so

850
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,039
I have a a big family. So when I when I

851
00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:33,039
look at cities and planning and economic

852
00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:35,120
development, keeping that as kind of

853
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,519
your central focus, Santa C is a great

854
00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:39,440
family oriented community and I think

855
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,679
everything we should be doing should elevate that purpose. So any

856
00:32:43,679 --> 00:32:46,880
questions for me?

857
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:51,200
>> Nine sisters. I have so many questions.

858
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,039
>> We don't have time.

859
00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:56,320
So not too many but I

860
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,240
>> there there was one comment you made

861
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:03,279
about uh economic development and uh I I

862
00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:05,760
felt your understanding of what was

863
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,720
important to really help with you know

864
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,159
we see so much growth in a city but that

865
00:33:12,159 --> 00:33:15,600
economic development provides a uh

866
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,279
backbone to help with programs of every

867
00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:22,640
size. And I I felt like you

868
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,799
brought that up and talked about it and

869
00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:26,559
understand that principle.

870
00:33:26,559 --> 00:33:28,000
>> Thank you. And I I just see such a

871
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,360
tremendous opportunity with with

872
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:30,720
Sanquin. And I think economic

873
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,880
development is right sizing it and and

874
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,200
really being strategic in how you u

875
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,120
bring in economic development. And I I

876
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,840
what I love is home occupations. I'm I'm

877
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,760
big on that. Just your your your local

878
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,519
people that are already doing businesses

879
00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:47,440
from their their houses. I found that

880
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,200
throughout my 18 years of of planning

881
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,200
and economic development, the more you

882
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,200
work and you're in touch with with your

883
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,960
uh your home occupations and just your

884
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,200
local businesses here, the the the

885
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:58,320
better it's going to be. And that really

886
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,240
sets the stage for if you bring in a a

887
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,519
big company, if you have the

888
00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:02,720
infrastructure and things that are

889
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,399
supportive of your local businesses,

890
00:34:04,399 --> 00:34:06,080
those are the same elements. It's all

891
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,360
matter of scale, but those are the same

892
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:08,960
elements that are going to be supportive

893
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,119
of of larger companies.

894
00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:13,359
>> That's awesome. Okay, any questions for

895
00:34:13,359 --> 00:34:15,040
Morgan?

896
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,720
Okay. Any questions on the uh agreement

897
00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:22,399
to uh the contract to approve for his

898
00:34:22,399 --> 00:34:24,000
employment agreement?

899
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,599
>> Mayor, we'd ask you to do those in two

900
00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:28,000
separate motions. So, one for the final

901
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,440
selection and then also one for the

902
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,359
approval of the of the employment

903
00:34:31,359 --> 00:34:32,639
agreement, please.

904
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:36,639
>> Okay. Let's go to item 12 that says the

905
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:39,599
community development director uh final

906
00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:43,280
selection. I would ask for a motion.

907
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,159
>> Mr. May I'll make a motion that we adopt

908
00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:48,879
resolution 12. Uh, community development

909
00:34:48,879 --> 00:34:51,280
director Morgan Brin. Right.

910
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,159
>> Yeah.

911
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:53,520
>> I'll second that motion.

912
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,280
>> Moved and seconded. Travis

913
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,480
>> I.

914
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:56,960
>> Lynn.

915
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:57,520
>> I.

916
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:58,079
>> Jeff.

917
00:34:58,079 --> 00:34:58,560
>> I.

918
00:34:58,560 --> 00:34:59,119
>> Art.

919
00:34:59,119 --> 00:34:59,520
>> I.

920
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:00,160
>> Ryan.

921
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,510
>> I.

922
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:04,560
» Now the agreement.

923
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,720
>> Okay.

924
00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:08,800
>> Had a chance to review that agreement.

925
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,040
>> So Lynn made a motion to approve the

926
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,240
resolution. I think uh what we need is a

927
00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:17,119
motion to select Morgan Brim for the

928
00:35:17,119 --> 00:35:19,119
position and then a separate motion to

929
00:35:19,119 --> 00:35:22,400
approve resolution 02 0302.

930
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,560
>> I'll make you kind of got that.

931
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,880
>> I'll amend I'll amend my um motion to

932
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,720
match what Jason just said.

933
00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:30,960
>> I'll second that amendment.

934
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,079
>> Okay. Travis

935
00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:33,520
>> still I Lyn

936
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,680
>> still I.

937
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:36,560
>> Jeff

938
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:37,440
>> I. Art

939
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:37,760
>> I.

940
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:38,400
>> Brian

941
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,000
>> I. Okay. So, the cart got before the

942
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,320
horse. So, uh then let's have a motion

943
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,680
on a resolution uh 0302, the approval of

944
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,400
the community development director

945
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:53,839
employment agreement.

946
00:35:53,839 --> 00:35:55,839
>> Mayor, I'll make a motion to approve

947
00:35:55,839 --> 00:35:58,560
resolution 0302206,

948
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,160
approval of community development

949
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,640
director employment agreement.

950
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:03,760
>> Is there a second?

951
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:04,800
>> I'll second.

952
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,480
>> Moved and seconded. Brian,

953
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:06,800
>> I

954
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:07,200
>> Art.

955
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:07,760
>> Hi,

956
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:08,240
>> Jeff.

957
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:08,560
>> Hi,

958
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:09,440
>> Lynn. Hi,

959
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,359
>> Travis. I

960
00:36:11,359 --> 00:36:13,280
>> motion passed.

961
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,640
>> Now you have to go to work.

962
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:15,280
>> Yes.

963
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,440
>> When when is your first day of work

964
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,119
going to be?

965
00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:21,200
>> I believe it's the 31st.

966
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:22,800
>> So it's two weeks.

967
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:23,440
>> Two weeks.

968
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:24,160
>> Awesome.

969
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:24,960
>> Sound good.

970
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,960
>> Excited to get going. Thank you.

971
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,720
>> Okay,

972
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:31,280
we got all that set. We appreciate it.

973
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,800
We look forward to working with you,

974
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:33,280
sir.

975
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,480
>> I appreciate you guys. Thank you so

976
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:34,720
much.

977
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:36,960
>> Yeah. Thank you.

978
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,400
>> Okay. Uh the community services director

979
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:41,839
final selection.

980
00:36:41,839 --> 00:36:43,359
>> Yeah, mayor and council.

981
00:36:43,359 --> 00:36:44,160
>> That's going to go on.

982
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,839
>> I I'll take care of this one. It's been

983
00:36:45,839 --> 00:36:48,079
a long time since we've hired two

984
00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:50,240
directors in one meeting. That's kind of

985
00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:51,839
interesting. We've had some longevity.

986
00:36:51,839 --> 00:36:53,920
In fact, my almost four years in this

987
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,640
position. This is the this is the uh

988
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,800
first time that we've hired a director.

989
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,880
We've re reinstated contracts before,

990
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,320
but this is the first time that we've

991
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,640
hired a director and now it's too. So,

992
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,200
um, as Jason indicated, we've we had

993
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,480
interviews just yesterday with nine very

994
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,680
highly qualified candidates and, uh, I

995
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,400
I'll present the the the the one that we

996
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,680
the individual that we have for you here

997
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:18,880
in a minute, but I want to tell you a

998
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,800
little bit about kind of the process

999
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,560
that we went through. We we spent 5

1000
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,880
hours yesterday between all of the

1001
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,480
interviews, half hour, half hour, half

1002
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,160
hour, and then another half hour plus at

1003
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,119
the end. We appreciate council member

1004
00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:33,040
Mikum and council member Sitaway and the

1005
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,520
mayor Jason and I and our and our

1006
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,000
library director Jennifer Wagner helped

1007
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,640
us with that. Um had a great divergence

1008
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,720
of thought, had really good discussion,

1009
00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:45,520
had uh just some really good interviews

1010
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,560
and came out of that nine with three

1011
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,400
that rose to the top. So, as as directed

1012
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,240
by the mayor and the two council members

1013
00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:56,480
that were there, we then had second

1014
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,240
discussions with three those three top

1015
00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:01,839
individuals last night until about 8:00.

1016
00:38:01,839 --> 00:38:04,720
And uh just again, the the talent has

1017
00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:07,920
just been incredible. I my 12 years

1018
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,440
working for the city, I've not seen a

1019
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,839
talent pool for contracts like for

1020
00:38:11,839 --> 00:38:13,440
positions like this in that 12 years.

1021
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,079
So, it's been really good. Um, from that

1022
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:19,040
we had some more discussion and and uh

1023
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,480
some heartto-he hearts with the top

1024
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,280
three and and selected one and that one

1025
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:24,880
that I would like to to present to you

1026
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,240
now. I'll put this up on the screen.

1027
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:28,400
This is a Zoom meeting. We have Cammy

1028
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,200
Ellsworth who is with us. Um, Cammy, I'm

1029
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,400
going to introduce you a little bit and

1030
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:33,280
kind of give a little bit of your

1031
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,040
background. You're on mute, so when you

1032
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,320
want to talk, you'll have to take that

1033
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:37,119
off.

1034
00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:40,079
>> Uh, Cammy comes to us from multiple

1035
00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:41,760
different jobs. She spent 12 years in

1036
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,560
St. George. And I I'm going to kind of

1037
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,400
interject a little bit here. Uh in our

1038
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,079
references, we had five references for

1039
00:38:48,079 --> 00:38:49,440
her. And one of the comments in that

1040
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,760
reference was that Cammy took the St.

1041
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,240
George Marathon to a whole other level

1042
00:38:54,240 --> 00:38:56,400
times 10.

1043
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:01,040
So if that gives you an idea that the I personally have run the St. George

1044
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,960
Marathon four times. I know it doesn't

1045
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,160
look like it now. It's been more than a

1046
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,320
decade ago, but I've run that four

1047
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,079
times. And there at that time there were

1048
00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:12,400
10,000 individuals that would sign up

1049
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:13,680
for that race. And now I think it's

1050
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,160
probably closer to 12 or 13 or 14,000

1051
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:17,040
people.

1052
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,040
>> If you can imagine that many people and

1053
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,720
all their support and all their family

1054
00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:23,119
and all of the logistics that it takes.

1055
00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:25,839
Cammy did that for 12 years as well as

1056
00:39:25,839 --> 00:39:27,359
other programs that she was over there

1057
00:39:27,359 --> 00:39:29,680
in St. George. And so that's that's one

1058
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,599
aspect of it. She then moved to another

1059
00:39:31,599 --> 00:39:35,680
town that's called Baghdad, Arizona.

1060
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,560
>> It's a mining town that is

1061
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,119
uh about a sixth the size that we are

1062
00:39:41,119 --> 00:39:43,359
today with a budget three times of what

1063
00:39:43,359 --> 00:39:44,400
we are today.

1064
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:44,960
>> Oh wow.

1065
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,520
>> So she actually went there and and built

1066
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,920
the entire program. They they hired her

1067
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,320
and basically took all their they

1068
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,400
weren't very organized and and didn't

1069
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,440
have leagues and and and fields being

1070
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:58,640
taken care of and all that kind of

1071
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,560
stuff. They put her to work and in

1072
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,079
several years she was able to turn that

1073
00:40:02,079 --> 00:40:04,720
around and had a very successful uh uh

1074
00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:06,240
program when she left there. She then

1075
00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:09,119
went to Yuma, Arizona for a couple years

1076
00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:10,960
and has recently been working in in

1077
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,480
another uh complex in Texas and that's

1078
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,000
where she is currently stationed. So

1079
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,200
we're te stealing her away from Texas.

1080
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,880
So all in all, Cammy, I think you're

1081
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,119
about 18 years worth of of experience.

1082
00:40:23,119 --> 00:40:24,880
Am I thinking about that right?

1083
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,240
>> Yes. Yeah. Coming up on 20 about 19 20.

1084
00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:28,560
Yeah.

1085
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,160
>> I I know she doesn't look old enough to

1086
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,760
have 20 years of experience, but there

1087
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,240
you go. Um, I'm going to back away now a

1088
00:40:34,240 --> 00:40:36,720
little bit and and have maybe Cammy have

1089
00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:38,960
you introduce yourself that I haven't

1090
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,200
already done and and let's have them ask

1091
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,839
any questions you might have.

1092
00:40:43,839 --> 00:40:45,200
>> First of all, we need to know, do you

1093
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,520
have nine sisters?

1094
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:48,960
>> No.

1095
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,200
I can't imagine. I only had two and

1096
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,640
that was pretty rough.

1097
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,119
>> I am the youngest of of three girls

1098
00:40:57,119 --> 00:40:59,839
though and so I became the boy of the

1099
00:40:59,839 --> 00:41:02,720
family. So I I grew up playing every

1100
00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:05,040
sport known to man. And I was my dad's

1101
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,880
sidekick from the time I was about three

1102
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,200
years old, which is probably why I ended

1103
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,680
up in parks and recreation.

1104
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,880
Um, he he needed a son and and here I

1105
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,710
am.

1106
00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:21,200
» Um, like Norm was saying, I've kind of

1107
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,200
been traveling around a little bit. We

1108
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,520
are empty nesters now. Our children left

1109
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,920
us and um, we kind of went on a little

1110
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,560
adventure. My husband is from grew up in

1111
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,280
Mesa. That's what took us to Arizona.

1112
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:34,800
And we wanted to be a little closer to

1113
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,839
his family for a while. And um and then

1114
00:41:37,839 --> 00:41:39,760
the company that I worked for in Baghdad

1115
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,200
actually is the company that I worked

1116
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:42,880
for here in Texas. They're headquartered

1117
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,839
in Texas. And so um they they reached

1118
00:41:45,839 --> 00:41:47,359
out to me asking if I'd be willing to

1119
00:41:47,359 --> 00:41:49,200
move to Texas and work for them again.

1120
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,200
So um they are a wonderful company. Um I

1121
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,160
value them uh uh greatly. So, I was more

1122
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,440
than willing to to move us again and and

1123
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,960
come out here to help um kind of patch

1124
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,960
up some some holes that were happening

1125
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,280
here in their recreation areas. So,

1126
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,119
that's what brought us to Texas. But, I

1127
00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:11,599
am so honored to be here tonight um and

1128
00:42:11,599 --> 00:42:13,680
spend some time with with you at your

1129
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,640
council meeting. Um I love parks and

1130
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,480
recreation. I love anything that brings

1131
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,240
family together. um to play and enjoy

1132
00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:26,560
each other um and to build family bonds

1133
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,920
as well as community bonds. So um I have

1134
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,839
a huge passion for everything parks and

1135
00:42:31,839 --> 00:42:34,560
recreation. So any questions for me? I'm

1136
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:39,190
happy to answer.

1137
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,119
» So if I may, I'm going to interject here

1138
00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:42,480
a little bit. Some of the other

1139
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,359
references that were made to to Cammy in

1140
00:42:45,359 --> 00:42:47,280
the in the uh references that we

1141
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,359
contacted were

1142
00:42:49,359 --> 00:42:52,000
honest, high integrity.

1143
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,880
When she goes in, she goes all in. And I

1144
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,800
have seen that over the last 48 hours

1145
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,880
when she goes all in. In fact, one of

1146
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,160
the things that we've talked about is

1147
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,079
bringing her out here in the next week

1148
00:43:02,079 --> 00:43:03,920
or so so that she can be on site and

1149
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,520
look at the facilities and get to know

1150
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,200
the people and that kind of thing. And

1151
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,119
so as we look at this tonight, I would I

1152
00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:11,599
would request that you make as we make a

1153
00:43:11,599 --> 00:43:14,079
motion that we do that conditional upon

1154
00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:16,560
a site visit and continuing to work with

1155
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,960
her. We we do have a an agreement before

1156
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,280
you that we've presented and come to

1157
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,119
terms on, but there's still some things

1158
00:43:23,119 --> 00:43:26,079
to work out. Also pending is the is the

1159
00:43:26,079 --> 00:43:28,960
background check. So that would be what

1160
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,560
I would request of you tonight. But just

1161
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,319
we again, we are super impressed with what we've seen. And I think the

1162
00:43:34,319 --> 00:43:36,319
council members that were there and the

1163
00:43:36,319 --> 00:43:38,800
mayor just, you know, again, the talent

1164
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,440
pool and that we had and then Cammy just

1165
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,280
rose to the top on that was just really

1166
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,630
fantastic

1167
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,560
» with those conditions. Then we don't

1168
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,720
have a prospective start date yet.

1169
00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:52,400
>> We we do that's one of the conditions

1170
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,319
and that would be probably about 30 days

1171
00:43:54,319 --> 00:43:57,119
out. We we've asked her to in in concert

1172
00:43:57,119 --> 00:43:58,800
with the the mayor and the council,

1173
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,400
we've asked her to to plan on being here

1174
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:01,520
30 days from now.

1175
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:02,319
>> Okay.

1176
00:44:02,319 --> 00:44:03,359
>> Thank you for that. That's good

1177
00:44:03,359 --> 00:44:05,200
clarification.

1178
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,920
>> I I guess I just love to hear I I think

1179
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,960
Cammy, you've been in a small town in

1180
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,359
Arizona, right? That was what was said.

1181
00:44:13,359 --> 00:44:15,839
Well, uh I mean, we're not necessarily a

1182
00:44:15,839 --> 00:44:18,480
small town anymore, but we're smaller.

1183
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,640
Um I just love to hear your perspective

1184
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,200
on like community services, parks and

1185
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,359
wreck in a small town, like how you've

1186
00:44:25,359 --> 00:44:28,319
seen that.

1187
00:44:28,319 --> 00:44:31,040
>> Um that's a great question. So Baghdad

1188
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,079
only has about 3,000 people. So it is a

1189
00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:37,359
very small town. Um

1190
00:44:37,359 --> 00:44:41,119
it is what brings people to to that

1191
00:44:41,119 --> 00:44:43,599
town. So Baghdad is unique. It's a

1192
00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:44,960
mining town and if you don't work for

1193
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,640
the mine, you you can't live there. So

1194
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,200
it's a town site. Um and so they're

1195
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,119
constantly trying to encourage people to

1196
00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:54,240
stay because you have to drive 60 miles

1197
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:56,480
to a Taco Bell. You have to drive 60

1198
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,040
miles to shop at a real store. Um, and

1199
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,560
so they're always trying to entice

1200
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,359
people to stay in this tiny little town.

1201
00:45:03,359 --> 00:45:05,839
Um, and recreation really brought this

1202
00:45:05,839 --> 00:45:10,000
community together. Um, we started doing

1203
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,480
soccer camps and basketball leagues and

1204
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,200
art classes for their children. Um,

1205
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,440
having multiple multiple community

1206
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,040
events throughout the year and the

1207
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,400
entire town would come to each event.

1208
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,400
Um, they look forward to recreation.

1209
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,200
They want to recreate whenever possible.

1210
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,040
Um, it really did bring such a a value

1211
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,760
to that small community. Um, and now

1212
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,599
people do. They want to live there. They

1213
00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:39,280
love what that little town, as ugly as

1214
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:43,599
it is, if you've ever Google it.

1215
00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:46,000
Not a pretty town, but people do want to

1216
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,079
live there and stay there. Um, because

1217
00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:50,079
all that it affords to their family

1218
00:45:50,079 --> 00:45:51,680
there. Now,

1219
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,280
>> that's awesome. I I would like you to

1220
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,880
have you comment a little bit on uh

1221
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:03,040
maybe the outlook or your thoughts on

1222
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:07,200
dealing with a library, a museum, um

1223
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,440
senior citizens,

1224
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:14,560
um items like that as well as uh parks

1225
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:19,510
and wreck.

1226
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,119
» Norm, will you repeat that to me? I

1227
00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:22,640
couldn't hear. Yeah, he's asking about

1228
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,680
your perspective on library museum uh

1229
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,760
seniors and and your perspective on

1230
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,040
that.

1231
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,240
>> Yes. Um I've actually never worked

1232
00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:34,560
directly with a library. Um we had a

1233
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,680
library on our community campus. Um but

1234
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,680
it was run by the county. So that this

1235
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,480
will be new to me. Um, however, I've

1236
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,240
worked with several different museums

1237
00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:48,319
and, um, and I think that the history

1238
00:46:48,319 --> 00:46:53,200
that's that's, you know, taught and and

1239
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,800
valued also is something that that

1240
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,040
brings so much value to your community.

1241
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,880
If you can share what has happened in

1242
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,480
the past and where you've gotten to

1243
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,040
where you are now, um, and tell that

1244
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:09,680
story, that that really does, um, bring

1245
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,119
such value to your community. Um,

1246
00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:17,119
seniors, I worked a lot with seniors in my job in Yuma. We had a senior

1247
00:47:17,119 --> 00:47:21,520
center um, there and we had lots of

1248
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,920
wonderful classes, um, woodworking and

1249
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,240
arts and crafts. We had a many senior

1250
00:47:26,240 --> 00:47:28,400
games there where we would hold pickle

1251
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,560
ball tournaments and um billiards

1252
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,599
tournaments and um different things for

1253
00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:35,839
about a two-eek period for for our

1254
00:47:35,839 --> 00:47:37,839
seniors and we would see them come out

1255
00:47:37,839 --> 00:47:40,480
in droves. So in Yuma this the town

1256
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,560
doubles in size in the summer. So all of

1257
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,119
the winter visitors come and they are

1258
00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:48,319
all um in the senior population. So Yuma

1259
00:47:48,319 --> 00:47:52,000
becomes a a senior

1260
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,880
community um for about six months out of

1261
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,920
the year. Um and so we spend a lot of

1262
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,000
time catering to our to our senior

1263
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,160
population. Um and they also I mean they

1264
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,880
have such wonderful stories to tell. You

1265
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,440
can learn so much from our senior

1266
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,240
population. Um, I know that the time

1267
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:14,960
that I have spent, um, has, you know,

1268
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,839
has bettered my life for sure.

1269
00:48:17,839 --> 00:48:19,359
>> So, one of the things I'm going to break

1270
00:48:19,359 --> 00:48:20,880
in here just a little bit, Cammy. One of

1271
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,480
the things that we looked at with all of

1272
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,800
the applicants was the breadth. You can

1273
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,720
tell that Cammy has a lot of breadth in

1274
00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:28,480
different things from seniors to museum

1275
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,280
to parks and wreck to sports to other

1276
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,520
than library. She has the the the widest

1277
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,319
breadth of of experience, which is why

1278
00:48:36,319 --> 00:48:38,079
one one of the reasons why she rose to

1279
00:48:38,079 --> 00:48:40,720
the top is because that's the way that

1280
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:42,559
we operate around here, right? She we

1281
00:48:42,559 --> 00:48:43,920
talked about it today with her on the

1282
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,920
phone. There's 12 things underneath her

1283
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:50,160
from royalty to the the museum to the

1284
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,119
community garden to the library to

1285
00:48:53,119 --> 00:48:56,240
Anyway, that was one of the things that really helped distinguish her from

1286
00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:57,280
some of the other candidates.

1287
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,359
>> We just added one called food pantry to

1288
00:48:59,359 --> 00:49:01,040
>> Yeah, there we go. I've been talking to

1289
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:02,480
her on that in text. She's like, "Wait a

1290
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,839
minute. No, I'm just kidding.

1291
00:49:05,839 --> 00:49:07,040
>> New work."

1292
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,280
>> Yeah. Job security.

1293
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:10,160
>> Just uh

1294
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,440
>> Yes.

1295
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,839
>> Just so we can move along. Are there any

1296
00:49:13,839 --> 00:49:15,760
other questions that you guys would like

1297
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,589
to ask?

1298
00:49:19,599 --> 00:49:22,800
Seeing none, then I would entertain a

1299
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:28,400
motion on the uh community service director final

1300
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,599
selection that was suggested through the

1301
00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:33,760
uh interviewing committee for Cammy

1302
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,440
Ellsworth. So moved. Is there a second?

1303
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,040
>> I'll second that.

1304
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,440
>> Moved and seconded. Travis,

1305
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:42,480
>> hi

1306
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:42,960
>> Lynn.

1307
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:43,440
>> Hi

1308
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:44,000
>> Jeff.

1309
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:44,480
>> Hi

1310
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,280
>> Art.

1311
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,280
>> I But I have a question. Is this

1312
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,200
conditional at all?

1313
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,960
>> Yeah, that'll be the next item.

1314
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:53,359
>> Okay.

1315
00:49:53,359 --> 00:49:55,200
>> Yeah.

1316
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:56,079
>> I

1317
00:49:56,079 --> 00:49:56,800
>> Brian

1318
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,160
>> I.

1319
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,200
>> Okay. Motion passed. The selection takes

1320
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:05,520
us to the conditional motion uh for

1321
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,319
those items that were stated by Norman.

1322
00:50:08,319 --> 00:50:10,240
don't want to forget them, but there are

1323
00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:12,160
tests, drug tests, and

1324
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,640
>> yeah, start date 30 days, just a site

1325
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,720
visit is due and also just contingent

1326
00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:18,319
upon passing the background check are

1327
00:50:18,319 --> 00:50:20,079
the three things that I would recommend

1328
00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:22,000
this motion be contingent upon.

1329
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,760
>> I'll I'll make a motion to approve

1330
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,240
resolution 0303 2026 with those

1331
00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:27,359
conditions.

1332
00:50:27,359 --> 00:50:29,440
>> You want to repeat them, please?

1333
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,960
>> Uh we repeat the conditions 30 days.

1334
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,119
>> Start in 30 days. still the background

1335
00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:37,520
check and then also the the she's going

1336
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,040
to make a site visit here sometime

1337
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:40,640
between that to to

1338
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,480
>> to come and just kind of feel things out

1339
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,559
and just get to know the staff and all

1340
00:50:44,559 --> 00:50:46,640
that kind of stuff.

1341
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:47,040
>> Okay,

1342
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,520
>> I'll second that motion.

1343
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,280
>> Moved and seconded. Travis

1344
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:51,680
>> I

1345
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:52,160
>> Lynn

1346
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:52,720
>> I

1347
00:50:52,720 --> 00:50:53,359
>> Jeff

1348
00:50:53,359 --> 00:50:53,760
>> I

1349
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,119
>> Art I

1350
00:50:55,119 --> 00:50:55,680
>> Ryan

1351
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:56,800
>> I

1352
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,480
>> motion passed. Congratulations Cammy,

1353
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,240
>> you have work to do.

1354
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:04,240
>> Yeah, she has work to do.

1355
00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:05,520
Okay.

1356
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:06,400
>> Thanks, Jimmy.

1357
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,160
>> Uh, would you let us know when you're

1358
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,400
coming so we have a chance? I'd want to

1359
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,079
make sure I have a chance to meet you.

1360
00:51:12,079 --> 00:51:15,359
>> Yes. I actually will be there on Monday.

1361
00:51:15,359 --> 00:51:16,640
>> Next Monday.

1362
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:17,920
>> Yeah. A week from the week from

1363
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:18,640
yesterday.

1364
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:18,880
>> Okay.

1365
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,160
>> We've actually been coordinating that

1366
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:21,520
when they, like I said, when she said

1367
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,079
all in, she's all in. Here we go.

1368
00:51:24,079 --> 00:51:25,280
>> Okay. Good luck with the cheer cup.

1369
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:26,880
>> And I and I will be there the entire

1370
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,960
weekend, but I will be on site Monday.

1371
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:29,920
>> Yes.

1372
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:30,720
>> All right.

1373
00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:32,079
>> Great. Thanks, Tammy. you can go ahead

1374
00:51:32,079 --> 00:51:33,520
and jump off or you can hang out if you

1375
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:34,640
want to and

1376
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,160
>> and spend the rest of

1377
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,079
>> online so I can see everyone.

1378
00:51:38,079 --> 00:51:40,000
>> Okay. Thank you.

1379
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:40,960
>> Thank you.

1380
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:41,599
>> Big crowd.

1381
00:51:41,599 --> 00:51:44,000
>> Okay. Uh I'd like to get a

1382
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,640
>> Can I jump in a report on the building

1383
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,880
permit and business license?

1384
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:50,400
>> Could you let me know her schedule? I'd

1385
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,400
love to just chat given that there's so

1386
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,400
many things that we've just talked about

1387
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:55,280
recently. Yep.

1388
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:59,349
>> In the department. So

1389
00:51:59,359 --> 00:52:00,559
» Okay. You ready, Mayor?

1390
00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:02,640
>> Yeah. Mayor and Council, Norm's going to

1391
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,240
pull it up. Uh the building permit

1392
00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:07,520
report tonight right now sitting um

1393
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,200
where we are in the calendar year. We're

1394
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,400
up to 100 new residential uh dwelling

1395
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,960
units. That's made up of 36 single

1396
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,760
family and 64 multif family. Uh you can

1397
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,839
see this time last year we were to 75.

1398
00:52:19,839 --> 00:52:23,040
So a little ahead of pace. Uh fiscal

1399
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,800
year we're up to 172. uh this time last

1400
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,960
fiscal year which which we're getting

1401
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,079
towards the end we were at 195 and as

1402
00:52:32,079 --> 00:52:33,839
always you can see the previous years to

1403
00:52:33,839 --> 00:52:36,079
compare where where things are at

1404
00:52:36,079 --> 00:52:37,520
>> and then for tonight there's no new

1405
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,359
business licenses to report.

1406
00:52:39,359 --> 00:52:41,599
>> Wow.

1407
00:52:41,599 --> 00:52:45,280
>> Okay. Thank you. Any questions?

1408
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,520
>> Hearing none. Let's move on to ordinance

1409
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,480
uh 0301 uh the Southerntherland

1410
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:54,150
annexation.

1411
00:52:54,160 --> 00:53:00,710
I'm working on. Sorry,

1412
00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:07,109
» boy. I am just about a thousand.

1413
00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:09,599
» You want me to pull up the map?

1414
00:53:09,599 --> 00:53:11,359
>> Yeah, Jason.

1415
00:53:11,359 --> 00:53:12,640
>> Oh, I'm going to do that. That's right.

1416
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,000
Sorry. I'm gonna I'm gonna take this

1417
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,200
one. Sorry.

1418
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,119
Um, so we talked about this a little bit

1419
00:53:19,119 --> 00:53:20,480
in the work session. And I'm going to

1420
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,400
blow up this map here and see if I can

1421
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,319
get it to

1422
00:53:24,319 --> 00:53:26,160
uh show kind of real time where we're

1423
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,200
at. Yep, there we go. So now the map is

1424
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,920
facing up as north. The the 10 acres

1425
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,520
that is currently being proposed as the

1426
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,400
sunation is this yellow square right

1427
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,559
here. That would be 10 acres. Right now

1428
00:53:38,559 --> 00:53:41,520
it's surrounded on three sides with with

1429
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:42,800
the county. Well, it's still in the

1430
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,720
county. And what they're proposing is

1431
00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:46,640
they're proposing this to go to an R10,

1432
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,839
which is conti consistent with the areas

1433
00:53:49,839 --> 00:53:51,920
around it. The PF zone, the blue one

1434
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,720
that's here, is the school district

1435
00:53:54,720 --> 00:53:56,400
property and our rodeo grounds. Our

1436
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,880
rodeo grounds are here. And then this is

1437
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,040
the this is the field to the west of the

1438
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,400
rodeo grounds. That is the school

1439
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,880
district property. Um, it's being

1440
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,720
proposed that that 10 acres be brought

1441
00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:09,359
into the city, annexed. We've been

1442
00:54:09,359 --> 00:54:10,960
through all of the noticing and all of

1443
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:12,480
the requirements that required by the

1444
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,559
state and the county and so now it's

1445
00:54:14,559 --> 00:54:16,559
here for your consideration. I will just

1446
00:54:16,559 --> 00:54:18,319
mention that two other items have been

1447
00:54:18,319 --> 00:54:20,960
done on this. We had we accepted the

1448
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,800
petition which doesn't get any approval

1449
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,880
some months ago and then last council

1450
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,800
meeting we also had the public hearing

1451
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,640
where the public had an opportunity to

1452
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,640
ask questions and and voice concerns

1453
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,720
that they had. So, I'm happy to answer

1454
00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:34,319
any questions and I believe we have an

1455
00:54:34,319 --> 00:54:36,559
the applicant or one of the applicants

1456
00:54:36,559 --> 00:54:38,240
relatives here that can help us with

1457
00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:40,160
that.

1458
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,880
>> Any issues with infrastructure?

1459
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,960
>> So, as we talked about before, the

1460
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,680
answer is yes. There there's there's

1461
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,599
always struggles with infrastructure

1462
00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:52,640
because all the easy stuff's gone. So,

1463
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,160
um in this one, they're going to have to

1464
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:55,359
deal with water. They're going to have

1465
00:54:55,359 --> 00:54:56,480
to deal with roads. They're going to

1466
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,800
have to deal with with sewer. and and

1467
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,520
all of that is done at the development

1468
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,440
stage, not at the annexation. But yes,

1469
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,680
there are challenges, I guess, is the

1470
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,599
best way to put it. Anything can be

1471
00:55:07,599 --> 00:55:09,440
sewarded or anything. It's just a matter

1472
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,040
of where they can go with it, how they

1473
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,040
can get it there, what kind of access,

1474
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:14,559
that type of thing. So, yes,

1475
00:55:14,559 --> 00:55:17,520
>> but the but the U petitioners are aware

1476
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:18,800
of those situations.

1477
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,559
>> I I believe that they are well aware of

1478
00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:23,520
those situations. Yes, we've had we've

1479
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,440
had discussions with them as well as

1480
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,280
potential purchasers for this property

1481
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,200
that have come to the city to do their

1482
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:30,640
due diligence.

1483
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:31,359
>> Thank you.

1484
00:55:31,359 --> 00:55:32,800
>> Yes. Thank you.

1485
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,200
>> Will you will you uh pull up the the

1486
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:36,640
exact lot?

1487
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:37,920
>> You want me to show it on the parallel

1488
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:38,160
map?

1489
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:38,640
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1490
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,520
>> Uhhuh. Sure.

1491
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,200
>> Sorry. I'll get that over there and get

1492
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:54,630
it coming up. Thank you.

1493
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,119
So this is

1494
00:55:57,119 --> 00:56:00,720
the the 10 acres is a part of this 61

1495
00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:02,000
that's right here if I remember

1496
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:02,799
correctly. Is that

1497
00:56:02,799 --> 00:56:05,839
>> No, no, it's down further south.

1498
00:56:05,839 --> 00:56:07,200
>> Oh, I'm sorry. That's correct. That's

1499
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:08,799
correct. It's a part of this one. My

1500
00:56:08,799 --> 00:56:13,280
bad. The Yeah, that would have been bad.

1501
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,599
>> Um, so 10 acres right here in this

1502
00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:17,520
location. Is it the band?

1503
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,040
>> Yeah, we would have had a problem with

1504
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,470
that.

1505
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,559
» So, that is their that is their current

1506
00:56:24,559 --> 00:56:27,520
look at that. Um, again, the the blue

1507
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,280
area that is in the map, and I'll pull

1508
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,200
that up really quick again. The I'm

1509
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:32,799
sorry, the yellow area that's next to it

1510
00:56:32,799 --> 00:56:35,359
is R10. And I'll pull that back up and

1511
00:56:35,359 --> 00:56:36,799
have to answer any questions that you

1512
00:56:36,799 --> 00:56:38,559
have about that. You want me to turn the

1513
00:56:38,559 --> 00:56:40,640
aerial on? Would that help or not help?

1514
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,000
>> So, is it is it that that one right next

1515
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,359
to the bed and breakfast? Yeah, just

1516
00:56:47,359 --> 00:56:49,680
north of a certain amount. That is just

1517
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:51,040
north of that. That's correct. The bed

1518
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:52,480
and breakfast, I think, that you're

1519
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:53,839
referring to is right here.

1520
00:56:53,839 --> 00:56:54,319
>> Yeah.

1521
00:56:54,319 --> 00:56:57,680
>> Yep. Um the the pink line here

1522
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,160
represents the current city boundary and

1523
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,240
then if this annexation goes through and

1524
00:57:02,240 --> 00:57:04,000
the lieutenant governor approves it, you

1525
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,040
guys approve it and the lieutenant

1526
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:06,799
governor approves it, that would change

1527
00:57:06,799 --> 00:57:08,640
the boundary in this area to have that

1528
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,630
box out right there.

1529
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,079
We had a public hearing on this. We've

1530
00:57:16,079 --> 00:57:20,160
had comments given to us even at the

1531
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,119
public hearing. Are there any questions

1532
00:57:23,119 --> 00:57:25,440
or anything that uh you would like to

1533
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,839
ask? I think uh Glade probably

1534
00:57:27,839 --> 00:57:29,440
represents the rest of the family

1535
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,440
tonight.

1536
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,240
I' I'd love to have you come up and just

1537
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,640
kind of usually I I was commenting in

1538
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:37,920
the work session where I was like I

1539
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,119
don't really know what the intentions

1540
00:57:39,119 --> 00:57:41,520
are with this annexation and in most

1541
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,040
other situations obviously other

1542
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,280
annexations can be a lot bigger or

1543
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,680
smaller. I just felt like I have no idea

1544
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,720
what what the plan is or or like

1545
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,400
different intentions and so I'd love to

1546
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,640
hear like what's the current intention,

1547
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,799
what's in the works, what you know just

1548
00:57:56,799 --> 00:57:58,480
to hear from your perspective. I know

1549
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,240
during the public hearing there were

1550
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:01,839
some concerns about what type of housing

1551
00:58:01,839 --> 00:58:03,599
a different thing, but I think R10 only

1552
00:58:03,599 --> 00:58:05,200
allows for single family,

1553
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:06,480
>> so I don't think that's really a

1554
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,960
concern, but I just love to hear.

1555
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,119
>> Okay, first off, I'm a little bit

1556
00:58:11,119 --> 00:58:12,480
disappointed that you moved the

1557
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,119
directors ahead of me and have to make

1558
00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:17,920
me wait, but I'll excuse you, mayor, on

1559
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:18,480
that.

1560
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,200
>> You know, I I was thinking that we would

1561
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,200
put you ahead of the queens, but you

1562
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,400
didn't stand a chance. No, I'd never I'd

1563
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,160
never compete with the queen. No

1564
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:29,599
question there.

1565
00:58:29,599 --> 00:58:31,760
>> Are you questioning my looks? Is that

1566
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,079
it?

1567
00:58:34,079 --> 00:58:37,760
>> The plan is to we we plan to Well, we

1568
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,880
have already offered it to sell for sale

1569
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,359
and send it to several developers and

1570
00:58:43,359 --> 00:58:45,040
other people who may have interest in

1571
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:50,000
it. Uh we we do have some issues with

1572
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,839
utilities as Norm has explained. Uh most

1573
00:58:53,839 --> 00:58:56,400
difficult one is the sewer access and

1574
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,240
we're still working on that. We have not

1575
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,559
got that resolved at this point. But as

1576
00:59:00,559 --> 00:59:02,799
far as the family, we're looking at uh

1577
00:59:02,799 --> 00:59:07,359
single family homes. The R110 zoning

1578
00:59:07,359 --> 00:59:11,200
is what what we anticipate. And some of

1579
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,400
the proposed buyers have wanted to to

1580
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,119
downsize it to the R8,000 square foot

1581
00:59:17,119 --> 00:59:19,680
lots and we told them no, we want the

1582
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:24,160
bigger lots. Uh, four of our siblings

1583
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,799
live there and those lots just to the

1584
00:59:26,799 --> 00:59:28,960
south. So,

1585
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,359
they want a good neighborhood as well.

1586
00:59:31,359 --> 00:59:34,240
So, yeah, this property has been in the

1587
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:37,680
family for 70 years. My father and

1588
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:41,440
mother purchased it in 1956,

1589
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,480
and we've hung on to it this long. They

1590
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,720
they've both been gone over 20 years,

1591
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,760
but we're all getting older and it's

1592
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,480
time to move forward and so that's why

1593
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,960
we've offered it for sale.

1594
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,119
>> Is it I'm assuming it's in conjunction

1595
00:59:57,119 --> 00:59:59,440
with the other land that's already

1596
00:59:59,440 --> 00:59:59,920
>> Yes.

1597
00:59:59,920 --> 01:00:01,520
>> just east of it, right? Is that that's

1598
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:02,400
the plan?

1599
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:02,720
>> Yeah,

1600
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,880
>> because I'm like 10 acres is not enough

1601
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:06,240
to do really anything with.

1602
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,000
>> Yeah, there's there's an additional

1603
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,240
approximately 18 acres. So altogether

1604
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,280
it's about 28 acres.

1605
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:14,720
Okay.

1606
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,760
>> The the part that's already in the city

1607
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,799
could could be seoured if we went

1608
01:00:20,799 --> 01:00:22,559
through the school district property,

1609
01:00:22,559 --> 01:00:26,079
but most of the developers want to want

1610
01:00:26,079 --> 01:00:28,799
a bigger piece to to make it more

1611
01:00:28,799 --> 01:00:30,480
affordable for them.

1612
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,400
>> Yeah. So, on the infrastructure side of

1613
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,720
things, the the city's existing sewer

1614
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,400
line, it runs right along this brought

1615
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,720
property line right here, north and

1616
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:40,240
south. And so, that would be what would

1617
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:41,760
be hooked into. But the problem with it

1618
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:45,119
is it's all downhill from there. So

1619
01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:47,440
sewer doesn't run uphill.

1620
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:47,839
>> Yeah.

1621
01:00:47,839 --> 01:00:49,520
>> So that's one of the challenges again

1622
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,040
that I've identified and I believe that

1623
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:52,319
the family's aware of.

1624
01:00:52,319 --> 01:00:53,200
>> Right.

1625
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,920
>> There is there is approximately 2 acres

1626
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:59,119
on the east side of that sewer line. But

1627
01:00:59,119 --> 01:01:01,680
that's all that could be sewered as with

1628
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,839
the existing utilities that are in there

1629
01:01:03,839 --> 01:01:07,839
now. and and and h how do how do you go

1630
01:01:07,839 --> 01:01:10,720
about you know fixing those or solving

1631
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,960
those challenges?

1632
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,280
>> Well, you you find another way for the

1633
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:16,799
sewer to sewer out like he's talking

1634
01:01:16,799 --> 01:01:18,079
about. One of the things that he's just

1635
01:01:18,079 --> 01:01:20,000
mentioned is this property is owned by

1636
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,240
the the school district.

1637
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,720
>> The the gentleman that was here last

1638
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:25,920
meeting that was concerned about

1639
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,000
somebody had approached him that their

1640
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,240
family owns and controls this piece, but

1641
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:31,920
some of it could be sewarded out of here

1642
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,520
through the through the school district.

1643
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,040
I'm going to pan this up and then our

1644
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:36,880
sewer comes up like this and goes out

1645
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:38,400
over here.

1646
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,280
>> Okay. Okay. I I assume that's what you

1647
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:42,480
were referring to, right? You were

1648
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,240
talking about potentially. But but even

1649
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:45,920
some of that 10 acres that I'm showing

1650
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:47,200
here in that box

1651
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:48,960
>> likely wouldn't sue her with that.

1652
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:50,000
>> That's correct. Okay.

1653
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:51,920
>> Yeah. We need a different location for

1654
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,440
that piece. This 10 acres belongs to two

1655
01:01:55,440 --> 01:02:02,240
of my sisters, but they want to sell it.

1656
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,589
Any

1657
01:02:05,599 --> 01:02:08,880
other questions for Glade?

1658
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:13,040
>> Okay. Um, any other questions on this

1659
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,680
annexation? We've now had the families

1660
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:21,200
here and and the public uh hearing.

1661
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:25,520
Um, I would entertain a motion to uh

1662
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,640
on on ordinance 0301, the

1663
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,040
Southerntherland annexation. I'll make a

1664
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:32,880
motion to approve ordinance number

1665
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:34,720
03012026.

1666
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,200
>> Motion's been made. Is there a second?

1667
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,839
>> I'll second. Moved and seconded. Travis

1668
01:02:39,839 --> 01:02:40,160
>> I.

1669
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:40,720
>> Lynn

1670
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:41,119
>> I.

1671
01:02:41,119 --> 01:02:41,839
>> Jeff

1672
01:02:41,839 --> 01:02:42,640
>> I.

1673
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:43,119
>> Art.

1674
01:02:43,119 --> 01:02:43,599
>> Hi.

1675
01:02:43,599 --> 01:02:44,319
>> Brian

1676
01:02:44,319 --> 01:02:45,119
>> I.

1677
01:02:45,119 --> 01:02:47,440
>> Motion passed.

1678
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,760
>> So if I may just for procedural from

1679
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,480
here we send it to I don't John. Do we

1680
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,000
send it to the county first or do we now

1681
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,160
go to the lieutenant governor's office?

1682
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,319
>> So I believe it goes to the county

1683
01:02:58,319 --> 01:03:00,559
first. their final review and then once

1684
01:03:00,559 --> 01:03:01,680
that's all done.

1685
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:02,640
>> Okay.

1686
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:03,920
>> So, there's still a couple of steps

1687
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:05,520
you've done. We've done here the land

1688
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:07,440
use side of things. Again, we've had

1689
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,200
public hearings and went to the planning

1690
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:10,799
commission, all that kind of stuff. It

1691
01:03:10,799 --> 01:03:12,720
now will be in somebody else's hands to

1692
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:14,240
kind of take the football to the to the

1693
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,599
goal line. But, thank you.

1694
01:03:17,599 --> 01:03:21,760
>> Okay. I'd like to uh move to item number

1695
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,559
seven which is a formal public hearing

1696
01:03:24,559 --> 01:03:28,640
on uh adopting updated drinking water

1697
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,440
pressurized irrigation system sanitary

1698
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:35,599
sewer impact fee uh enacted ordinances.

1699
01:03:35,599 --> 01:03:38,559
Um so we need to move to a public

1700
01:03:38,559 --> 01:03:40,240
hearing.

1701
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:41,520
Is there a motion?

1702
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:42,400
>> So moved.

1703
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:43,599
>> Seconded.

1704
01:03:43,599 --> 01:03:46,400
Moved and seconded. Travis.

1705
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:47,280
>> Hi,

1706
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:47,680
>> Lynn.

1707
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:48,160
>> Hi,

1708
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:48,559
>> Jeff.

1709
01:03:48,559 --> 01:03:49,200
>> Hi,

1710
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:49,599
>> Art.

1711
01:03:49,599 --> 01:03:50,079
>> Hi,

1712
01:03:50,079 --> 01:03:50,559
>> Brian.

1713
01:03:50,559 --> 01:03:51,359
>> Hi.

1714
01:03:51,359 --> 01:03:54,960
>> So, we're in a public hearing for the

1715
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,039
adopting of the updated drinking water

1716
01:03:57,039 --> 01:03:59,599
pressurized irrigation sanitary sewer

1717
01:03:59,599 --> 01:04:03,359
impact fee enactment ordinance. And

1718
01:04:03,359 --> 01:04:04,960
there's a lot of work that's been put

1719
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:10,000
into this. And uh nobody signed up to

1720
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,000
speak.

1721
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:12,640
So

1722
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,240
>> do you want to ask if there's anybody in

1723
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:15,599
the audience that wants to speak and

1724
01:04:15,599 --> 01:04:18,240
then we can have either either before or

1725
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,319
after that we can have Chris Thompson

1726
01:04:20,319 --> 01:04:22,000
who is with Hansen and loose that's put

1727
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:23,359
this together for us to kind of go

1728
01:04:23,359 --> 01:04:24,480
through an explanation.

1729
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:26,720
>> I was hoping that Chris would get a

1730
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,599
chance but uh right up first we'll ask

1731
01:04:29,599 --> 01:04:39,829
if anybody wants to speak.

1732
01:04:39,839 --> 01:04:41,599
Hello. Hi. Um,

1733
01:04:41,599 --> 01:04:42,880
>> if you please state your name.

1734
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:44,160
>> Oh, Cara Ganoway.

1735
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:44,720
>> Thank you.

1736
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,200
>> Um, I'm here on behalf of just people of

1737
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,039
the city. We don't understand what any

1738
01:04:49,039 --> 01:04:52,240
of these public hearings all consist of.

1739
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,319
We just hear an impact fee. We hear a

1740
01:04:54,319 --> 01:04:57,119
fee. We don't know what that means. So,

1741
01:04:57,119 --> 01:04:59,839
we're just wondering, is this impact fee

1742
01:04:59,839 --> 01:05:02,079
specifically only for new builds coming

1743
01:05:02,079 --> 01:05:05,039
in? It's not going to be impact any

1744
01:05:05,039 --> 01:05:06,880
other citizens that are already here.

1745
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:08,240
>> No, that's correct.

1746
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:09,839
>> Okay. We just wanted like good

1747
01:05:09,839 --> 01:05:11,200
clarification on that.

1748
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,280
>> It's to offset the impact of the

1749
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:16,640
building, new buildings and the future

1750
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,039
in our infrastructure. So, it helps it

1751
01:05:19,039 --> 01:05:21,280
helps create the infrastructure going

1752
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:21,920
forward.

1753
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,000
>> The new people moving in will pay for

1754
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:25,760
the improvements that are needed to

1755
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:26,720
accommodate them.

1756
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:28,079
>> You you already paid yours when you

1757
01:05:28,079 --> 01:05:29,680
built your house or whoever built it

1758
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:30,799
originally.

1759
01:05:30,799 --> 01:05:32,720
>> Okay. We just want a clarification on

1760
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:33,839
that. So, I appreciate it.

1761
01:05:33,839 --> 01:05:35,839
>> Good question. Well, and and that's why

1762
01:05:35,839 --> 01:05:37,760
we go through these things right now

1763
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,839
because we've gone through an

1764
01:05:39,839 --> 01:05:43,119
engineering study to prove as to whether

1765
01:05:43,119 --> 01:05:46,319
we they need to be increased or they

1766
01:05:46,319 --> 01:05:49,520
even need to be reduced and so that we

1767
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:54,079
are fairly treating everyone and falling

1768
01:05:54,079 --> 01:05:57,599
within the guidelines of Utah state law

1769
01:05:57,599 --> 01:06:00,640
in order to even do a

1770
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:04,079
any kind of fee like this. So, we are

1771
01:06:04,079 --> 01:06:07,200
covering all the bases to make sure even

1772
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,839
this public hearing to make sure that

1773
01:06:09,839 --> 01:06:11,440
we're covering everything and we

1774
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:13,200
appreciate your comments.

1775
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:14,480
>> Yeah. Well, I appreciate your time.

1776
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:14,880
Thank you.

1777
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:16,559
>> Okay. Thank you for coming.

1778
01:06:16,559 --> 01:06:18,480
>> Hey, mayor. And if I may, I think

1779
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:19,839
something that can help too with the

1780
01:06:19,839 --> 01:06:22,000
public information, uh, generally we

1781
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:26,160
update our impact fees every five years.

1782
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:27,839
>> So, hold on, Jason.

1783
01:06:27,839 --> 01:06:30,160
>> John's explaining it better. Hold. I

1784
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:31,520
want to make sure that this person hears

1785
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,039
that that so that they're they're here

1786
01:06:33,039 --> 01:06:34,240
for that. So

1787
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:34,720
>> John,

1788
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:36,640
>> hey John, can we break in?

1789
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:37,920
>> Can we break in so that she can hear

1790
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:38,160
this?

1791
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:39,520
>> Explain something further for you to

1792
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,319
understand. So impact fees usually we we

1793
01:06:42,319 --> 01:06:44,799
update every 5 years with a master plan

1794
01:06:44,799 --> 01:06:46,799
update. This is kind of an innovative

1795
01:06:46,799 --> 01:06:49,200
way of looking at our our impact fees on

1796
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:50,640
more of an annual basis which will

1797
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:51,760
actually make things a lot more

1798
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:53,839
efficient and more accurate for the

1799
01:06:53,839 --> 01:06:56,319
impact that new growth uh has on our

1800
01:06:56,319 --> 01:06:58,480
community. So uh that's partly the

1801
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,400
purpose for this. It's it's a little bit

1802
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,400
new, a little bit different. Uh like I

1803
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,240
say, you'll usually see these impact

1804
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,160
fees happen on on more of, you know,

1805
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:08,160
transportation or parks, recreation,

1806
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:10,720
trails, and open space or sewer or

1807
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:12,480
water. The reason why these three are

1808
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,480
here is Hansen Allen Loose has gone

1809
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,400
through a process of looking at making

1810
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,160
this more efficient so that our impact

1811
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,319
fees are accurate. Uh this is helpful

1812
01:07:20,319 --> 01:07:22,079
for developers because they know what to

1813
01:07:22,079 --> 01:07:27,119
expect when they do an impact fee and rather than than them uh you know

1814
01:07:27,119 --> 01:07:28,799
one day coming and and looking at a

1815
01:07:28,799 --> 01:07:30,400
development and the impact fee is this

1816
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,319
and we go through an impact fee analysis

1817
01:07:32,319 --> 01:07:34,000
and update it and it goes up

1818
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,319
exponentially. This will make it so it's

1819
01:07:36,319 --> 01:07:38,480
more done on an annual basis and it

1820
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:39,839
makes it more accurate for them. So, the

1821
01:07:39,839 --> 01:07:41,039
development community actually loves

1822
01:07:41,039 --> 01:07:43,280
this as well, but it also makes it more

1823
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,039
accurate for the city. So, those impact

1824
01:07:45,039 --> 01:07:46,480
fees are accurate and we're we're

1825
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,799
getting the the appropriate

1826
01:07:48,799 --> 01:07:51,359
revenue from those impact fees that that

1827
01:07:51,359 --> 01:07:52,480
match the impact that we're

1828
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,000
experiencing. So, hopefully that helps a

1829
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:55,760
little bit with with that explanation.

1830
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:57,440
>> Yeah, we did hear public hearing and

1831
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:58,960
we're like, oh, was it going to affect

1832
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,839
the public? Right. So, we just wanted we

1833
01:08:01,839 --> 01:08:03,599
were all concerned if it was affecting

1834
01:08:03,599 --> 01:08:06,319
the public or only new bills coming in

1835
01:08:06,319 --> 01:08:08,880
and that's what we were. So, so if I

1836
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,359
may, the state especially on impact fees

1837
01:08:11,359 --> 01:08:14,400
themselves are very stringent on what we

1838
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,279
have to do. A public hearing is one of

1839
01:08:17,279 --> 01:08:19,279
the things that we have to do. Six or

1840
01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:21,759
eight months ago, we sent out a public

1841
01:08:21,759 --> 01:08:24,400
notice that said we intend to look at

1842
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,880
these things. That's part of the code

1843
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:28,400
that the state code, especially with

1844
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:31,199
impact fees and public meetings, are

1845
01:08:31,199 --> 01:08:32,719
very stringent on the things that we

1846
01:08:32,719 --> 01:08:34,880
have to do and that's why we do them.

1847
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:36,319
That's why they're formatted the way

1848
01:08:36,319 --> 01:08:39,040
that they are. We don't we don't add

1849
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,040
narratives to it even though it might be

1850
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:44,000
helpful for a lay person to have a long

1851
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:45,759
narrative. That's why we have the public

1852
01:08:45,759 --> 01:08:47,759
hearings so that people can come and

1853
01:08:47,759 --> 01:08:49,520
learn about those things and understand

1854
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,960
them from the the the the engineering

1855
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:54,400
folks and the folks that help us put

1856
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,239
these together. These are these are

1857
01:08:56,239 --> 01:08:59,359
things that we have to do legally with

1858
01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:01,359
10 days notice on something, 7 days

1859
01:09:01,359 --> 01:09:03,600
notice, 24 hours notice. All of these

1860
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,520
things are state requirements that we

1861
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:07,600
have to do. And while it may look like

1862
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,440
that, it's not as convenient for the

1863
01:09:09,440 --> 01:09:12,480
public to have all of the information up

1864
01:09:12,480 --> 01:09:14,239
front, we're doing exactly what the

1865
01:09:14,239 --> 01:09:16,560
state code requires of us. And that's

1866
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:18,000
why we have these public hearings. Like

1867
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:19,440
the mayor saying, we're doing this

1868
01:09:19,440 --> 01:09:21,520
because we want you to be here. We want

1869
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:24,400
you to be involved and understand and

1870
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,239
this is the way that we go about it. I

1871
01:09:26,239 --> 01:09:29,040
often said say to people, this right

1872
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,600
here is the public square and the

1873
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:33,359
public's business takes place in the

1874
01:09:33,359 --> 01:09:35,120
public square. And that's why we do what

1875
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,679
we do because the state has mandated how

1876
01:09:37,679 --> 01:09:39,359
we have to do that.

1877
01:09:39,359 --> 01:09:41,279
>> It doesn't take place on Facebook. It

1878
01:09:41,279 --> 01:09:42,960
doesn't take place in neighborhood

1879
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:44,560
conversations. There's lots that we can

1880
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:46,640
do out there, but the public's business

1881
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,120
happens right here. So kudos to you for

1882
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,440
staying involved and understanding or

1883
01:09:51,440 --> 01:09:53,120
not understanding and coming and ask the

1884
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,360
questions, watch the agendas, watch the

1885
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:57,120
public notices. There's purposes and

1886
01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:59,600
reasons for that and we do that because

1887
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,000
of state code. Well, there's there's one

1888
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:05,199
other thing and we've probably hit on a

1889
01:10:05,199 --> 01:10:08,000
little bit, but uh sometimes these

1890
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,800
things aren't changed for every five

1891
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,840
years. Well, if you roll back in time

1892
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,480
and you look at what building costs were

1893
01:10:16,480 --> 01:10:19,760
five years ago and those kind of impact

1894
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,320
fees were associated with that and we're

1895
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:25,199
not doing updates to take a look at it,

1896
01:10:25,199 --> 01:10:28,000
you're so far behind by the time you do

1897
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:31,120
an update 5 years later that the

1898
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:34,800
inaccuracy of the impact fee for the

1899
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,000
whole builders actually is a penalty to

1900
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:39,840
the people that live in the city and

1901
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,000
have paid for the system to get to where

1902
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,719
it is. What we're trying to do is make

1903
01:10:44,719 --> 01:10:48,320
sure that upgrades uh that are affected

1904
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:52,080
by new growth that comes in are actually

1905
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:53,920
helping pave the way without the

1906
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,320
citizens that are here having to shell

1907
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:57,760
out even more.

1908
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,640
>> Can c can I add something? I I I think I

1909
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:02,560
just want to make sure that if anyone's

1910
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:05,120
listening when we say new growth, it

1911
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,280
could be that you live in Santa Quinn,

1912
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:08,960
but you own a lot in Santa Quinn and

1913
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:09,920
you're going to go build your dream

1914
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,480
home. These impact fees will affect you

1915
01:11:12,480 --> 01:11:15,920
if you decide to build. So, so I've

1916
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:17,520
talked to multiple residents that have

1917
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,760
said, "Hey, I'd love to build an ADU,

1918
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:21,920
like a little cassita or mother-in-law

1919
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:22,960
apartment in the back of their

1920
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:24,800
property." And they said, "These impact

1921
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:27,679
fees are so high. I can't build that."

1922
01:11:27,679 --> 01:11:30,880
So, you live here and you might think,

1923
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:32,640
"Oh, well, maybe this specifically you

1924
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:34,400
think this doesn't affect you. It can

1925
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:37,040
still affect you." and that if you have

1926
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:38,960
new construction, whether you live here

1927
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,440
or not, this does affect you. And I do

1928
01:11:41,440 --> 01:11:42,960
think that it is important for residents

1929
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:44,719
if they are thinking about, hey, in the

1930
01:11:44,719 --> 01:11:46,400
future, I want to build in San Quinn and

1931
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,760
I want to make sure that these fees are

1932
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:51,520
appropriate for the costs like these

1933
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,880
fees should only be to cover the cost

1934
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:56,560
for infrastructure. It shouldn't be

1935
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,760
excessive or the city giving a handout

1936
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:01,920
to developers either, right? And that's

1937
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,400
why, you know, I I I think that the city

1938
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,560
does a good job to make sure that these

1939
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,520
are priced right, but I don't want

1940
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,520
anyone to be under the impression that

1941
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,440
these fees don't affect them because

1942
01:12:13,440 --> 01:12:15,040
they already live here. Because I've

1943
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:17,120
talked to many residents that say, "Hey,

1944
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:19,760
I live here and now I can't build this

1945
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:21,440
house on this property because I can't

1946
01:12:21,440 --> 01:12:23,920
afford it." And I mean, we don't say,

1947
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:25,440
"Oh, because you can't afford it, we're

1948
01:12:25,440 --> 01:12:27,520
going to charge you less." It should be

1949
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:29,360
priced appropriately. the cost to the

1950
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:30,880
city should be the cost to the

1951
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,199
developer, right? For to in simple

1952
01:12:33,199 --> 01:12:36,480
terms. So I when someone says new

1953
01:12:36,480 --> 01:12:37,920
growth, that doesn't mean just new

1954
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,480
people moving to Santa Quinn. It means

1955
01:12:40,480 --> 01:12:42,640
new development in San Quinn, whether

1956
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:43,440
they live here or not.

1957
01:12:43,440 --> 01:12:45,280
>> Brian, if I may, it's new impact, right?

1958
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,280
That's why we call it an impact fee is

1959
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:49,120
because if somebody builds a cassita,

1960
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:50,960
which we have in some of our zones,

1961
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:52,800
which is great. None of them have ever

1962
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,600
been built. But when when there is a new

1963
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,159
impact to the system, that impact fee is

1964
01:12:58,159 --> 01:13:00,000
charged. And I will also note that all

1965
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,080
three of our master plan or our IFPs and

1966
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:05,760
IFAS in here have a deduction for ADUs.

1967
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:08,000
Detached ADUs are actually have a

1968
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:09,520
reduced cost,

1969
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:11,199
>> which we're trying to do. That's one of

1970
01:13:11,199 --> 01:13:13,040
our strategies for our moderate income

1971
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,199
housing to help try and make housing

1972
01:13:15,199 --> 01:13:17,440
more affordable. Again, even with that,

1973
01:13:17,440 --> 01:13:18,960
they're they're expensive. There's no

1974
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,400
question. And one of the things that I mentioned in the work session is

1975
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:24,640
that Some of our fees have been really

1976
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:26,239
low. Well, they're buying into capacity

1977
01:13:26,239 --> 01:13:29,520
on infrastructure that's 40 years old.

1978
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:30,800
Infrastructure that we have to build

1979
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:32,880
tomorrow is far more expensive than

1980
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:34,239
something that we have that's existing

1981
01:13:34,239 --> 01:13:36,800
that they can buy into as far as tanks

1982
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:38,800
and water lines and booster pumps and

1983
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:40,320
all the infrastructure that we have to

1984
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:42,320
do. So, that's that I I appreciate you

1985
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:43,679
bringing that up, Ryan, and I appreciate

1986
01:13:43,679 --> 01:13:45,520
that that the city through their

1987
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,360
strategies have have said the city

1988
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:48,640
council have said, "Yeah, we're going to

1989
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:50,480
lower these by 10% because we want to

1990
01:13:50,480 --> 01:13:52,480
help with some of these costs." Now,

1991
01:13:52,480 --> 01:13:54,400
maybe 10% isn't the right number. Maybe

1992
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:56,400
it is. But at least we're trying to do

1993
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,400
something to help with with more

1994
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:01,679
affordable housing.

1995
01:14:01,679 --> 01:14:04,159
>> Okay, we good.

1996
01:14:04,159 --> 01:14:04,719
>> Thank you.

1997
01:14:04,719 --> 01:14:07,600
>> Okay, one other thing. Uh Chris, I think

1998
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,000
I'd like to expand this public hearing,

1999
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,320
especially because we're going to talk

2000
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,719
about each of these ordinances we go

2001
01:14:14,719 --> 01:14:15,360
forward.

2002
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:16,480
>> So, mayor, if I would

2003
01:14:16,480 --> 01:14:17,360
>> before we close,

2004
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,040
>> maybe we close the public hearing now

2005
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:20,560
that there's no more public hear. we can

2006
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:21,920
go ahead and close that and then and

2007
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:23,520
then Chris can come in or however you

2008
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:24,000
want to do it.

2009
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,560
>> Is there anybody online?

2010
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:29,199
>> Um if there are they they can't ask

2011
01:14:29,199 --> 01:14:31,199
questions. It's not interactive.

2012
01:14:31,199 --> 01:14:34,239
>> Okay. Then I would entertain a motion to

2013
01:14:34,239 --> 01:14:35,199
close the public.

2014
01:14:35,199 --> 01:14:35,920
>> So moved.

2015
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:37,679
>> Seconded.

2016
01:14:37,679 --> 01:14:39,360
>> Moved and seconded. Travis

2017
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:39,600
>> I.

2018
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:40,480
>> Lynn I.

2019
01:14:40,480 --> 01:14:41,120
>> Jeff

2020
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:41,920
>> I.

2021
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:42,400
>> Art.

2022
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:42,880
>> Hi.

2023
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:43,360
>> Ryan.

2024
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:44,080
>> Hi.

2025
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,239
>> Okay. Chris, could we ask you to come

2026
01:14:46,239 --> 01:14:47,440
up?

2027
01:14:47,440 --> 01:14:49,040
I know you guys have put a lot of work

2028
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,920
into this and and in our meetings we've

2029
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:54,719
discussed this off and on for some time

2030
01:14:54,719 --> 01:14:56,560
as it's developed.

2031
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:58,640
>> So, uh

2032
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:00,800
>> why don't we just move into it if you

2033
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,280
would like to hit on each of these, the

2034
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:04,880
drinking water, the pressurized

2035
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:07,600
irrigation, and the sewer and give a

2036
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,080
high high shot at what we need to look

2037
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:11,040
at right now.

2038
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,360
>> Okay, great. Uh I had a number of things

2039
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:16,159
I was going to talk about, but uh it's

2040
01:15:16,159 --> 01:15:18,000
it was really incredible that the

2041
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,320
elected officials and and staff just

2042
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,640
covered every single one of them very

2043
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:23,199
well. So

2044
01:15:23,199 --> 01:15:25,360
>> I think we beat that sound understanding

2045
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:28,239
of impact fees here, which is fantastic,

2046
01:15:28,239 --> 01:15:30,400
how they protect the existing residents

2047
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:32,800
from having to pay for the for the

2048
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:34,800
development that's coming in. So it's

2049
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:39,360
great. Uh just kind of an overview of

2050
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:41,360
the impact fee studies that that we did

2051
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:45,360
for Santa Quinn. Uh first of all uh one

2052
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:49,040
of one of the challenges of consulting

2053
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:53,679
is uh having your engineers uh get the

2054
01:15:53,679 --> 01:15:56,560
information from from the cities quick

2055
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,040
enough to keep them busy. But that is

2056
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:04,640
not a challenge in in Santa Quinn. your staff is incredibly

2057
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:06,640
uh responsive to requests for

2058
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:10,159
information and uh what an incredible

2059
01:16:10,159 --> 01:16:12,159
great experience we had working with

2060
01:16:12,159 --> 01:16:13,760
them.

2061
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:18,320
I I think one of your staff uh took two

2062
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:23,920
days to get some information to us and apologize that it took so long. I

2063
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,080
was like, man, if I can get some within

2064
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:28,080
two weeks, I'm really excited for some

2065
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:34,320
clients. So, uh, what a what a great city to to work with, um, on on

2066
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:36,800
this. And, uh, we are we are quite proud

2067
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:38,960
of this impact fee these these impact

2068
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,040
fee studies. Uh, we feel like they check

2069
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:43,360
every box of the ordinance and and

2070
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:45,440
they're fair, very fair and defensible

2071
01:16:45,440 --> 01:16:47,360
and

2072
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:50,320
uh and and they will ensure that the

2073
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:53,679
city collects the right amount. Um uh

2074
01:16:53,679 --> 01:16:55,440
and and and

2075
01:16:55,440 --> 01:16:57,520
uh one of the deliverables that you get

2076
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:58,960
which you don't normally get with

2077
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,040
engineering studies is the actual study

2078
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:04,159
data and uh that was a lot of work

2079
01:17:04,159 --> 01:17:06,880
making it so that's presentable and

2080
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,679
understandable. Uh but because you will

2081
01:17:09,679 --> 01:17:12,400
receive that study data um and it's

2082
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,640
organized the way that it's organized is

2083
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,760
next year for for a very low cost,

2084
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:19,520
you'll be able to update it every single

2085
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:23,520
year and and uh have uh it it's it's

2086
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:27,199
uncommon that the lower co the higher co

2087
01:17:27,199 --> 01:17:30,159
the lower cost item gives you a better

2088
01:17:30,159 --> 01:17:32,719
product, but I believe that this does

2089
01:17:32,719 --> 01:17:35,520
that. the lower cost actually gives you

2090
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:37,520
very current up-to-date annual impact

2091
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:41,679
fees um and versus waiting and and and

2092
01:17:41,679 --> 01:17:44,239
doing after a prolonged period. And so

2093
01:17:44,239 --> 01:17:47,280
uh very excited about uh this in San

2094
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:49,199
Quint. And now I'd like to just kind of

2095
01:17:49,199 --> 01:17:51,440
give you an overview of where the impact

2096
01:17:51,440 --> 01:17:55,840
fees took you. Um but um John asked me

2097
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:59,040
to to talk a little bit about um some of

2098
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:02,080
the level of service uh tables that

2099
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:07,360
you'll see in the impact feed. Uh one thing that's important is that if

2100
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:09,360
you're providing your residents this

2101
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,840
level of service, uh it's important that

2102
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,080
the new development doesn't erode that

2103
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:16,719
level of service and and and and

2104
01:18:16,719 --> 01:18:18,719
basically make it so that you provide

2105
01:18:18,719 --> 01:18:21,120
less level of service u for the

2106
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:25,280
residents. Uh so let's say for a tank,

2107
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:28,159
if you're building a big tank, um and

2108
01:18:28,159 --> 01:18:31,120
there was 300 gallons of that tank for

2109
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:35,920
every resident in the community, um

2110
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:38,880
if if a whole bunch of more residents

2111
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:40,400
came in and you didn't build any more

2112
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:42,000
tank, that could go down to only 200

2113
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,159
gallons of tank. And so there would be

2114
01:18:44,159 --> 01:18:47,760
less supply or less uh uh redundancy in

2115
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,960
your system for those residents. Now, uh

2116
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:52,640
once you get to a level that you're

2117
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:56,000
like, well, uh that's not an acceptable

2118
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:57,679
level of service, then you build another

2119
01:18:57,679 --> 01:19:00,960
tank. But you don't build that tank so

2120
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,560
that it just barely gives the level of

2121
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:06,239
service you need for the residents in

2122
01:19:06,239 --> 01:19:08,080
the city. Now, you say, well, looking

2123
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:09,520
into the future, we think we're going to

2124
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:12,320
grow a bit. And so, uh this tank we're

2125
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,320
going to build for the next 10, 15

2126
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:16,400
years, so we don't have to build a tank

2127
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,320
every It's a lot of work to build a

2128
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:20,640
tank. and John would wear out if you had

2129
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:22,960
to build the tank every year. So, uh you

2130
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:24,480
say, "Well, let's, you know, spread them

2131
01:19:24,480 --> 01:19:26,480
out 15 years or so." And so, you build

2132
01:19:26,480 --> 01:19:29,840
the tank quite a bit bigger. Well, now

2133
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,400
your level of service will go way up.

2134
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:34,000
And so, a lot of times in these studies,

2135
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:35,679
you'll see something that says existing

2136
01:19:35,679 --> 01:19:36,880
level of service.

2137
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:38,560
>> So, Chris, I have this up on the table

2138
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:40,080
and this was or on the the

2139
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:41,920
>> Okay, great. This is this was actually a

2140
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:43,040
question from one of our council

2141
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:44,159
members. And if I may, I'm going to

2142
01:19:44,159 --> 01:19:45,760
break in a little bit. But the way that

2143
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:47,840
I understand this for for storage, for

2144
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:49,920
instance, the difference between this

2145
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:53,280
2350 and the 1817 is essentially the buy

2146
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:55,840
in, right? It's the the 18 is the

2147
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:58,719
minimum that we need to to be able to

2148
01:19:58,719 --> 01:20:02,400
service homes, but we have 23. So in

2149
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:04,080
essence, the difference between these

2150
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,080
two or these two or these two is really

2151
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,080
our excess capacity. Am I understanding

2152
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:08,880
that correct?

2153
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,040
>> That's exactly right. Okay, perfect.

2154
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:11,440
>> Yeah.

2155
01:20:11,440 --> 01:20:14,560
>> So, any any further questions on that or

2156
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:16,000
>> does does that make sense? Does that

2157
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:16,960
help you understand?

2158
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,040
>> I I mean I was I was asking about like

2159
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,440
the source how it went from 2.31 gallons

2160
01:20:21,440 --> 01:20:24,800
per minute to 0.97 gallons per minute is

2161
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:27,679
and and from what I was reading it was

2162
01:20:27,679 --> 01:20:30,159
similar to we realized hey this is

2163
01:20:30,159 --> 01:20:32,239
actually the level of service based off

2164
01:20:32,239 --> 01:20:34,159
the data that we should be providing.

2165
01:20:34,159 --> 01:20:36,640
>> That's correct. So if we can go to that.

2166
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:40,080
So, um it's the same thing with a a a

2167
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:43,760
source. So, if you drill a well or you

2168
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:47,120
develop a spring, uh you're not going to

2169
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:49,199
develop a spring for just what you have

2170
01:20:49,199 --> 01:20:50,880
now. You're going to look 10 15 years

2171
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,920
into the future. And so, uh because

2172
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,960
you've developed those sources uh to the

2173
01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:01,840
point that uh you have 2.1 2.31 gallons

2174
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:05,280
per minute now available. the studies

2175
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:07,360
and and and this is where that data that

2176
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:09,520
I was talking to you about, the studies

2177
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:12,800
show that based on the historical usage

2178
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:17,280
in your city, um you only need 97

2179
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:21,600
gallons per minute per per uh ERC per

2180
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:25,440
home. And so, uh

2181
01:21:25,440 --> 01:21:27,840
this was true four years ago when you

2182
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:32,719
last did a study. And so um uh it held

2183
01:21:32,719 --> 01:21:39,840
that number was was pretty accurate. And so uh holding to that you now have

2184
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:43,760
as Norm explained you have extra you

2185
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:46,960
have extra uh source and basically

2186
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:49,360
you're selling that source to these new

2187
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:51,600
residents. Now as soon as a bunch come

2188
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:55,040
in and you hit that 0.97 threshold then

2189
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:56,880
you'll need to develop another. So, so

2190
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,360
what I was understanding is like why was

2191
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:02,400
it 2.31 to now 0.97? Is that because we

2192
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,199
have smaller houses maybe less

2193
01:22:05,199 --> 01:22:07,440
requirement like why why did we ever

2194
01:22:07,440 --> 01:22:10,400
have 2.31? So when you when you built

2195
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:13,440
this the source that gave you 2.31 it

2196
01:22:13,440 --> 01:22:16,159
was probably 4.0

2197
01:22:16,159 --> 01:22:17,679
like it was probably a lot higher back

2198
01:22:17,679 --> 01:22:20,400
when you developed that spring or or

2199
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:24,000
that well. Okay. Um, but you only needed

2200
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:27,120
0.97 then as well. You just you

2201
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:29,840
developed it. So you built another

2202
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:32,159
spring and it provides you much more

2203
01:22:32,159 --> 01:22:34,080
source than you needed. So that as

2204
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:35,840
growth came in they would erode that and

2205
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:38,159
it basically when you when you drill a

2206
01:22:38,159 --> 01:22:40,719
new well your your level of service your

2207
01:22:40,719 --> 01:22:42,639
existing level of service the the amount

2208
01:22:42,639 --> 01:22:45,280
of spring per person will go way up

2209
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:47,360
>> and then it'll gradually go back down to

2210
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:49,360
what is required and then you'll build

2211
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:51,280
another one and then then it goes up and

2212
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:52,719
it goes back down. So

2213
01:22:52,719 --> 01:22:55,760
>> I think for for me personally the word

2214
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:58,639
proposed is confusing. I think there's a

2215
01:22:58,639 --> 01:23:00,159
might be a better word there like

2216
01:23:00,159 --> 01:23:02,320
required or something.

2217
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:04,880
>> Yeah. Uh and and and

2218
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:07,600
we like to use that but the law the law

2219
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:10,080
is very clear

2220
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:12,080
>> indicates something in the future to me.

2221
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:14,960
>> Yeah. Yeah. So this is this is how the

2222
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,840
law reads though. Only only you as a

2223
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:21,120
legislative body can establish it uh

2224
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:24,800
that level of service. And so, uh, we're

2225
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,360
pretty careful in our reports to not

2226
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,520
write established level service when

2227
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:32,719
it's not established, um, until you pass

2228
01:23:32,719 --> 01:23:36,400
the ordinance. And so, uh, we could

2229
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:39,440
actually change this, but this is

2230
01:23:39,440 --> 01:23:42,000
>> once passed, you could then as part of a

2231
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:43,360
motion, you could say instead of this

2232
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,760
now being proposed, it could be the

2233
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:48,400
accepted or the adopted level of service

2234
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:50,880
at your direction in a final document.

2235
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:52,960
What what I'll also do is go up here and

2236
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:55,040
remember that each one of these pages

2237
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:56,719
that's not showing on that one are our

2238
01:23:56,719 --> 01:23:57,760
draft.

2239
01:23:57,760 --> 01:23:59,600
>> It just helps with that explanation to

2240
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:01,920
understand what that word proposed

2241
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:03,040
really means.

2242
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:05,679
>> If if I may, Chris talked about when

2243
01:24:05,679 --> 01:24:07,840
we're when this 10 years from now, 5

2244
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:08,960
years from now, whatever it is, when

2245
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:12,320
this 2.31 gets down to 0.97 is when we

2246
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:14,080
build another source. We do it before

2247
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:14,639
that.

2248
01:24:14,639 --> 01:24:17,120
>> Yeah. Because when we're at 0.97 and we

2249
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:19,440
have 0.97 and that's the requirement, we

2250
01:24:19,440 --> 01:24:20,960
can't add any more homes,

2251
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:21,600
>> right?

2252
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:24,080
>> So, just like with the tank, the the the

2253
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,560
next one, the middle line right now, we

2254
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:28,800
have the the top quarter as it were of

2255
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:30,480
the tank is available for us to buy

2256
01:24:30,480 --> 01:24:33,199
into, but we want to build and need to

2257
01:24:33,199 --> 01:24:35,520
build a new tank before we use up all of

2258
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:38,000
that capacity and we have no room for

2259
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:38,560
error.

2260
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:42,719
>> Right. But then so the the the proposed

2261
01:24:42,719 --> 01:24:45,199
impact fee for pressurized irrigation is

2262
01:24:45,199 --> 01:24:48,719
going down. um where like I'm just

2263
01:24:48,719 --> 01:24:50,560
trying to understand like where in this

2264
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:54,080
analysis is this saying hey this is the

2265
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:58,960
required level of service per ERC that

2266
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:00,960
we need as a city that we should be

2267
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:04,400
aiming at because when I see 0.97 it

2268
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:05,920
seems like this is more just like this

2269
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,400
is what's happening not like where are

2270
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:11,040
we getting so it's almost like hey now

2271
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:13,280
we have a red reduction level of service

2272
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:15,920
and now we're reducing our fees when

2273
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:18,719
shouldn't that be higher if if we want

2274
01:25:18,719 --> 01:25:20,159
if if that's meaning now we're at the

2275
01:25:20,159 --> 01:25:22,400
base and now we have to go back up I'm

2276
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:23,760
just trying to understand so the

2277
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:25,679
proposed level of service is always what

2278
01:25:25,679 --> 01:25:28,239
is required so when we do these studies

2279
01:25:28,239 --> 01:25:31,360
we always propose what is needed uh

2280
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:33,520
according to the use in your city so

2281
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:36,719
proposed is required you could you could

2282
01:25:36,719 --> 01:25:38,719
make those synonymous we only propose

2283
01:25:38,719 --> 01:25:40,960
what you actually need your existing

2284
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,360
level of service is just saying well we

2285
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:45,280
have this much extra capacity so we have

2286
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:47,679
this much per resident, but as new

2287
01:25:47,679 --> 01:25:50,080
residents come in, that will erode. As

2288
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:52,400
soon as it gets to the proposed or the

2289
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:54,639
required, that's when you'll want to do

2290
01:25:54,639 --> 01:25:57,280
as Norm says and build more.

2291
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:58,800
>> Okay. So, that's that that's what I'm

2292
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:00,880
saying is is the proposed level of

2293
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:03,280
service went down because we realized

2294
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:05,520
>> No, it it it would for the last four

2295
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:08,080
years, every year is been 0.97. It's

2296
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:09,280
always been 0.97.

2297
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:09,679
>> Okay.

2298
01:26:09,679 --> 01:26:11,440
>> The required. So, think about that as

2299
01:26:11,440 --> 01:26:12,239
required.

2300
01:26:12,239 --> 01:26:14,800
>> Okay. So, so again this 2.31 and the

2301
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:17,040
0.97 is the difference in between what

2302
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:19,440
we can pump what we have the capacity to

2303
01:26:19,440 --> 01:26:22,320
provide and 0.97 is what each home

2304
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:24,159
requires. That's how come we can

2305
01:26:24,159 --> 01:26:26,080
continue to build more homes. If we were

2306
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:28,320
at 97 across on all three of these, we

2307
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:29,920
wouldn't allow any more homes.

2308
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:32,480
>> So where's the where's the data that's

2309
01:26:32,480 --> 01:26:35,360
that that's saying why we're changing

2310
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:37,280
the fee then?

2311
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:38,800
>> It's always been the same proposed.

2312
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:46,400
>> The fee did change slightly. Um, and it was uh more of kind of a correction

2313
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:50,320
uh uh in the fee. This this is a little

2314
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:54,880
bit of a a a newer way to do one

2315
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:58,960
element. You have five elements of your drinking water and your

2316
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,840
pressurized irrigation uh impact fees.

2317
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:04,080
Um four of them were all level of

2318
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:07,199
service before. Uh the fifth one which

2319
01:27:07,199 --> 01:27:09,199
is called distribution

2320
01:27:09,199 --> 01:27:11,280
uh it historically was done in a

2321
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:13,520
different way. They they they model it

2322
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:18,719
out. It's it's it's very complex and and

2323
01:27:18,719 --> 01:27:25,120
um they try to isolate each pipeline and and try to decide how much capacity

2324
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:26,960
is in there, how much will be used in

2325
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:36,239
the next 10 years. and and uh uh it it's very difficult on a a city um that

2326
01:27:36,239 --> 01:27:40,159
model um because quite often you don't

2327
01:27:40,159 --> 01:27:43,840
collect all of the the money for for new

2328
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:45,760
regional projects that you would need to

2329
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:49,199
because um a pipeline comes in certain

2330
01:27:49,199 --> 01:27:56,719
increments of size and and quite often a new regional pipeline will service uh

2331
01:27:56,719 --> 01:27:59,920
new residents coming beyond on 10 years.

2332
01:27:59,920 --> 01:28:02,960
So what what this study has done is it's

2333
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:06,000
taken that one element, okay, of your

2334
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:09,840
level of service and it has changed it

2335
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:13,840
to um be just like tanks and and and and

2336
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:18,080
wells and and and has made it so that

2337
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:20,000
you take all of the new pipelines that

2338
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:21,679
need to be built in the city and you

2339
01:28:21,679 --> 01:28:23,280
divide it by all the new residents that

2340
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:25,280
are coming and you incrementally just

2341
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:27,600
have each one pay for their fair share.

2342
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:29,360
So there's a little bit of correction in

2343
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:36,480
there and and u that is uh uh enables us

2344
01:28:36,480 --> 01:28:39,440
to update it every year but it it's very

2345
01:28:39,440 --> 01:28:41,840
accurate and and the other is

2346
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:43,920
>> what sorry let me interject. What are we

2347
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:46,480
correcting from last time we did this?

2348
01:28:46,480 --> 01:28:47,440
That's what I want to know.

2349
01:28:47,440 --> 01:28:50,159
>> So it's just it's going down about $100.

2350
01:28:50,159 --> 01:28:50,800
So

2351
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:53,840
>> but what in the model are we correcting?

2352
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:55,520
What assumption in the model are we

2353
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:56,400
correcting?

2354
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:59,120
>> That's what I want to know. Okay. So, so

2355
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:03,199
um the old the old way is a valid way to

2356
01:29:03,199 --> 01:29:08,080
do impact fee studies. Okay. Um it's

2357
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:10,560
very expensive though to to do those

2358
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:12,480
studies and and you end up paying a lot

2359
01:29:12,480 --> 01:29:15,040
of money to remodel all of those larger

2360
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:19,280
pipes. But uh what what they would do is

2361
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:21,440
they put the model in and then they'd

2362
01:29:21,440 --> 01:29:23,840
take each regional pipe individually and

2363
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:26,480
say how much room is left in this pipe

2364
01:29:26,480 --> 01:29:28,880
to to supply new residents and try to

2365
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:33,920
quantify that. And um it's it's very uh

2366
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:37,840
what the developers call black box where

2367
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:41,040
um they just say okay uh uh this pipe

2368
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:43,600
can do this and and there's no way to

2369
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:46,480
verify that right because you'd have to

2370
01:29:46,480 --> 01:29:49,280
be a highle modeler to go in and try to

2371
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:51,440
figure that out and and it's very

2372
01:29:51,440 --> 01:29:55,040
complex. Whereas this new methodology uh

2373
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:57,199
is very easy to update every year. It's

2374
01:29:57,199 --> 01:30:00,560
very fair. it it collects the right

2375
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:03,840
amount of money um each time. Uh this is

2376
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:08,560
a very minor correction and and um uh

2377
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:13,840
there there was one other issue too and that is a a lot of your a lot of

2378
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:17,040
your uh sources were quite old and so

2379
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:20,080
they were less less money. uh you know

2380
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:23,360
when they're developed they uh didn't

2381
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:27,520
cost very much and so uh anyway your

2382
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:30,480
overall your impact fees went up I I

2383
01:30:30,480 --> 01:30:32,560
think about $650

2384
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:34,480
what you'll collect there's a little

2385
01:30:34,480 --> 01:30:36,639
correction pressurized irrigation sewer

2386
01:30:36,639 --> 01:30:38,800
stayed about the same drinking water

2387
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:42,639
came up quite a bit um and and if it

2388
01:30:42,639 --> 01:30:45,600
kind of helps you with accuracy we did a

2389
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:51,120
little comparison with other cities and your sewer. It's a it's a new

2390
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:53,360
system. It's kind of like what Norm said

2391
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:57,440
where you have uh very modern technology

2392
01:30:57,440 --> 01:30:59,760
in there. Uh your sewer is one of the

2393
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:03,360
higher impact fees in in the state, but

2394
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:05,520
it that makes sense. You have a very new

2395
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:08,320
modern system. It was kind of forced

2396
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:09,840
upon you a little bit with with

2397
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:12,000
regulation. Uh but you did the right

2398
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:13,280
thing and you did it and your impact

2399
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:14,719
fees are pretty high with sewer.

2400
01:31:14,719 --> 01:31:17,600
pressurized irrigation was was really

2401
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:18,960
high, but you have a you have a newer

2402
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:21,679
pressurized irrigation system. But if if

2403
01:31:21,679 --> 01:31:23,199
you look across the state, your

2404
01:31:23,199 --> 01:31:27,360
pressurized irrigation impact fees are pretty high. Your drinking water

2405
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:33,280
impact fees were quite low were very low. And so, uh, there there was a

2406
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:35,520
correction there up I think it was like

2407
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:39,760
$800. Um, and and and that uh that

2408
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:41,840
brought them more in line with with a

2409
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:43,760
little bit less than the average. But

2410
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:46,320
what what's going to happen is is as you

2411
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:48,960
update these every year, uh that they're

2412
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:51,199
going they're they're going to

2413
01:31:51,199 --> 01:31:54,000
streamline and just be right. They'll

2414
01:31:54,000 --> 01:32:01,679
just they'll go up with inflation and and uh uh it's it's a very complex

2415
01:32:01,679 --> 01:32:04,800
uh methodology that um impact fees have

2416
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:07,760
to go through with all all the laws. Uh

2417
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:13,600
and and uh um uh I I think the reason

2418
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:15,360
why the development community loves

2419
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:18,400
these impact fees is is you can sit down

2420
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:20,560
and go through each one and understand

2421
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:23,440
it when when you're done. And and so I I

2422
01:32:23,440 --> 01:32:26,960
feel like you you have uh a lot less

2423
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:29,520
exposure and you're very well taken care

2424
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:31,040
of with these impact fees. I'm really

2425
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:34,480
proud of them. I think they're good.

2426
01:32:34,480 --> 01:32:38,159
>> I still don't I'm asking what changed in

2427
01:32:38,159 --> 01:32:41,440
the model or methodology and I that just

2428
01:32:41,440 --> 01:32:43,679
was like a lot of talking.

2429
01:32:43,679 --> 01:32:44,320
>> Yeah. So,

2430
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:46,560
>> and and I appreciate it. I'm just like I

2431
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:48,320
don't either I'm totally not

2432
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:49,679
understanding or you're not answering

2433
01:32:49,679 --> 01:32:50,639
the question.

2434
01:32:50,639 --> 01:32:52,719
>> So, part of the I don't know if

2435
01:32:52,719 --> 01:32:54,800
correction is the correct term.

2436
01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:55,440
>> Yeah. Yeah.

2437
01:32:55,440 --> 01:32:57,679
>> Basically, because our current impact

2438
01:32:57,679 --> 01:32:59,600
the culinary water and the pressurized

2439
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:01,520
irrigation, the last time we updated

2440
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:03,679
these was five years ago. And so the

2441
01:33:03,679 --> 01:33:07,520
correction is um taking the historical

2442
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:09,600
data that we've gathered over the last

2443
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:12,880
five years and taking that information

2444
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:15,040
and putting it into our the study that

2445
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:16,639
Hanstown loose has provided that Chris

2446
01:33:16,639 --> 01:33:18,960
has done so that we have a better

2447
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:20,800
understanding of what those impact what

2448
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:24,480
the cost for each connection is to the

2449
01:33:24,480 --> 01:33:28,000
city. So the correction, the the update

2450
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:30,560
to those is to address the new

2451
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:32,239
information that we've had over the last

2452
01:33:32,239 --> 01:33:34,800
five years to look at that new

2453
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:36,400
information and make that needed

2454
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:39,120
adjustment so that we're collecting an

2455
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:42,800
appropriate amount of impact fees um so

2456
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:45,440
that we so our bonding requirements or

2457
01:33:45,440 --> 01:33:48,320
to pay for that short shortfall in in

2458
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:49,840
funding that we have. We experienced it

2459
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:54,080
with the WRF um this last year. we were

2460
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:56,080
that two$ two and a half million dollars

2461
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:58,000
less than when we actually needed to

2462
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:00,080
finish the construction of that that

2463
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:01,360
those upgrades.

2464
01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:03,040
>> So Chris Chris, can I jump in here

2465
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:04,480
really quick? I think what Brian's

2466
01:34:04,480 --> 01:34:07,840
asking is right now you're you're

2467
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:11,760
modeling the pipes bigger than 8 in

2468
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:14,960
pipes. You're modeling those on a on a

2469
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:17,600
cubic foot basis.

2470
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:19,280
They were not done like that before. or

2471
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:21,520
they were done on length of pipe and

2472
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:24,400
there was assumptions on how much that

2473
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:26,400
length of pipe.

2474
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:28,639
>> So, so again, this is a much more clear

2475
01:34:28,639 --> 01:34:30,719
method to go, okay, well, that home

2476
01:34:30,719 --> 01:34:34,560
needs 3.7 cubic feet of that pipe.

2477
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:36,159
That's what they pay for instead of a

2478
01:34:36,159 --> 01:34:38,560
length that that makes other assumptions

2479
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:39,920
that are less accurate.

2480
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:42,239
>> That That's what I'm asking is what?

2481
01:34:42,239 --> 01:34:43,440
>> So, that's what's changed.

2482
01:34:43,440 --> 01:34:44,719
>> I didn't feel like you answered that at

2483
01:34:44,719 --> 01:34:47,520
all, which it's okay. I'm just saying

2484
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:49,120
>> does that make sense that that's what's

2485
01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:51,440
changed in that particular instance?

2486
01:34:51,440 --> 01:34:53,600
That's what's changed is length of pipe

2487
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:56,159
versus cubic foot capacity of pipe is

2488
01:34:56,159 --> 01:34:57,679
the current way that it's modeled.

2489
01:34:57,679 --> 01:35:00,159
>> Yeah. Okay. Okay. Thanks.

2490
01:35:00,159 --> 01:35:01,280
>> I'm sorry about that.

2491
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:03,520
>> No, it's all right. I just I was just

2492
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:06,880
like I I I was I don't know how else to

2493
01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:08,960
say I don't understand what you're

2494
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:10,480
saying and it doesn't seem like you're

2495
01:35:10,480 --> 01:35:12,719
answering my question, but like just to

2496
01:35:12,719 --> 01:35:14,560
put it bluntly, you know, but thank you.

2497
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:16,880
I there's one thing I really liked about

2498
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:20,719
that about this whole thing is that you

2499
01:35:20,719 --> 01:35:23,120
had a vision that you could take all

2500
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:26,000
these figures that were coming in and

2501
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:32,960
build it into a model that created the pathway for cities like us to get on

2502
01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:36,239
board to be a part of it and to bring

2503
01:35:36,239 --> 01:35:39,679
those costs together almost yearly and

2504
01:35:39,679 --> 01:35:43,360
keep up with uh the cost of living, the

2505
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:46,000
cost of pipes, the cost of work to do

2506
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:48,719
them with which also is a big part of

2507
01:35:48,719 --> 01:35:52,239
this. Am I wrong or

2508
01:35:52,239 --> 01:35:55,440
>> Yeah. Yeah. It's it's it's a really

2509
01:35:55,440 --> 01:35:58,960
progressive way to to approach impact

2510
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:03,520
fees and and it should keep cities out

2511
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:05,840
of the situation that John was just

2512
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:08,000
explaining where you get into a project

2513
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:09,679
and you don't have enough money

2514
01:36:09,679 --> 01:36:11,520
>> Yeah. to do the project when it comes

2515
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:13,440
along because you're keeping up with it

2516
01:36:13,440 --> 01:36:16,239
in inflation and the way that the per

2517
01:36:16,239 --> 01:36:18,639
cubic feet like what Norm was saying

2518
01:36:18,639 --> 01:36:21,679
when when you say all right every every

2519
01:36:21,679 --> 01:36:26,400
new house needs to pay for you know five

2520
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:29,280
cubic feet of of regional pipe in order

2521
01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:30,960
to build all the regional pipe that we

2522
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:34,639
need. It's very easy to say well that's

2523
01:36:34,639 --> 01:36:37,040
2 and 1/2 ft of pipe. What does 2 and

2524
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:39,040
1/2 ft of pipe cost? Okay, you pay for

2525
01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:40,719
that. And and that's very

2526
01:36:40,719 --> 01:36:43,120
understandable. Whereas the length of

2527
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:46,639
pipe, they're very complex formulas

2528
01:36:46,639 --> 01:36:48,960
going into it saying, well, this length

2529
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:51,040
of pipe might h help a thousand

2530
01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:53,040
residents. Okay. Let's divide the length

2531
01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:55,040
by those thousands. So, it was just a

2532
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:56,719
different methodology like John said,

2533
01:36:56,719 --> 01:37:00,950
not so much a correction.

2534
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:07,030
» Okay. Okay. Any other questions?

2535
01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:09,199
I thank you Chris and thank you for

2536
01:37:09,199 --> 01:37:12,159
being here. Thanks for your ideas and

2537
01:37:12,159 --> 01:37:14,320
you know what Norm and John have shared

2538
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:17,280
with me you know over this time frame I

2539
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:20,800
think have been important and I see a

2540
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:22,880
vision for the future for us and other

2541
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:27,119
cities that'll really help in dialing in

2542
01:37:27,119 --> 01:37:30,639
uh the complexity of these impact fees

2543
01:37:30,639 --> 01:37:32,880
to the point that

2544
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:35,119
um we're not going to have to answer to

2545
01:37:35,119 --> 01:37:38,320
the governor every time we do something

2546
01:37:38,320 --> 01:37:41,119
that it's proven and it's proven up to

2547
01:37:41,119 --> 01:37:44,080
date. So, or at least that was my

2548
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:46,960
outlook and I I felt like, you know,

2549
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:48,320
we're on the right track.

2550
01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:49,840
>> So, two things that have been talked

2551
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:52,400
about. Chris talked about defensible.

2552
01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:54,159
Brett Brett will tell you that impact

2553
01:37:54,159 --> 01:37:56,159
fees need to be defensible,

2554
01:37:56,159 --> 01:37:58,239
>> and that's where we're at right now.

2555
01:37:58,239 --> 01:38:00,080
Could it be said that maybe we were

2556
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:01,920
collecting $100 more than we should have

2557
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:04,480
before? Maybe. I don't think that's the

2558
01:38:04,480 --> 01:38:05,600
case because we've talked about the

2559
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:07,199
credits and the other things, but but

2560
01:38:07,199 --> 01:38:08,880
the reality of it is is that there's two

2561
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:10,639
things that we have to rely on here. One

2562
01:38:10,639 --> 01:38:12,159
is that Chris is the ultimate

2563
01:38:12,159 --> 01:38:14,239
professional. I I've followed Chris for

2564
01:38:14,239 --> 01:38:17,360
18 years in my career. And I look up to

2565
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:19,119
Chris because he is very very smart

2566
01:38:19,119 --> 01:38:21,840
about water. Some of the things that are

2567
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:23,840
happening with Submo that we've had here

2568
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:26,000
that we've talked about and Mount Nebo

2569
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:27,679
have come because of the example of

2570
01:38:27,679 --> 01:38:29,920
Chris when he was at Spanish Fork.

2571
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:32,000
defensible and the fact that he has to

2572
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:34,800
sign these things. He is the engineer

2573
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:37,360
saying yes, I'm certifying that yes,

2574
01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:39,520
this is defensible and this is the

2575
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:41,679
amount of the fee that it should be and

2576
01:38:41,679 --> 01:38:43,679
maybe it's going down, but but I believe

2577
01:38:43,679 --> 01:38:46,159
that this is the accurate fee that you

2578
01:38:46,159 --> 01:38:49,280
should be that you should be charging so

2579
01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:51,679
that it's defensible. So, those are two

2580
01:38:51,679 --> 01:38:54,320
key things. Chris is putting his stamp

2581
01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:56,560
on the line by saying this. It would be

2582
01:38:56,560 --> 01:38:58,080
very difficult for us and I'm not saying

2583
01:38:58,080 --> 01:38:59,920
that we would to say, "Hey, we don't

2584
01:38:59,920 --> 01:39:01,679
want it to go down, right? We we want

2585
01:39:01,679 --> 01:39:03,360
you to fudge the numbers or we want to

2586
01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:04,880
do whatever. We've not asked that

2587
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:07,600
obviously, but but putting his stamp on

2588
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:10,080
that is his integrity and his seal that

2589
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:11,520
he's done this according to good

2590
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:13,440
engineering principles and meeting the

2591
01:39:13,440 --> 01:39:14,960
state code at the same time, which is

2592
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:17,760
very convoluted. It It is not easy. I

2593
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:20,159
can promise you it's not. So, I I

2594
01:39:20,159 --> 01:39:22,320
commend Chris as well. I I've enjoyed

2595
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:24,000
working with him and and every time I

2596
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:25,520
see these data tables that he's put

2597
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:27,360
together, it's like,

2598
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:30,560
>> can I can I chime in? Um

2599
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:32,080
I I saw throughout the document where it

2600
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:34,080
said error, no text of specified.

2601
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:35,600
>> I see this right here, Chris.

2602
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:37,520
>> Something all over the document.

2603
01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:39,840
>> That's not in the one I sent that wasn't

2604
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:43,920
in there. Uh, so I I think uh it

2605
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:46,800
probably just whoever

2606
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:50,400
manipulated that here probably it just

2607
01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:51,920
>> Are we missing something?

2608
01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:54,000
>> It's just a title. It's the same title

2609
01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:55,840
as in the document. So it's easily

2610
01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:58,159
corrected. But uh

2611
01:39:58,159 --> 01:39:58,960
>> so

2612
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:00,560
>> it's a label, not data.

2613
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:03,840
>> It's AI. It did it.

2614
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:04,239
>> Yeah.

2615
01:40:04,239 --> 01:40:05,679
>> But what are we missing?

2616
01:40:05,679 --> 01:40:08,480
>> It's just the title of the of the actual

2617
01:40:08,480 --> 01:40:11,520
table in your report. So it's what

2618
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:14,480
you're missing is table one-4.

2619
01:40:14,480 --> 01:40:18,080
So it's the one. So it's there's nothing

2620
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:21,280
substantive. You you have the the

2621
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:22,960
description of the table underneath it.

2622
01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:24,320
The only thing you're missing in there

2623
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:26,560
is the one that was attached to the

2624
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:28,639
table in the original document. So

2625
01:40:28,639 --> 01:40:30,239
>> but we'll get that fixed, right? Yeah,

2626
01:40:30,239 --> 01:40:30,800
>> we will.

2627
01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:31,440
>> Okay.

2628
01:40:31,440 --> 01:40:33,280
>> Yes. I I do want to point out one other

2629
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:35,840
thing. Chris Chris sent some other

2630
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:37,360
documents today that I want to pull up

2631
01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:38,800
here and just show you that there was

2632
01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:41,040
one thing that he and I talked about

2633
01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:42,560
after we published this that I think

2634
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:43,920
needs to be corrected and I'm going to

2635
01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:46,159
just go to it really quick. It's only in

2636
01:40:46,159 --> 01:40:47,840
the

2637
01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:49,840
drinking water and in the uh sewer

2638
01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:53,280
master plans, but in in the table itself

2639
01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:57,520
of the IFA where it talks about the the

2640
01:40:57,520 --> 01:41:01,840
uh impact fees right right here.

2641
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:04,800
Th this one calls this a maximum the the

2642
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:06,560
original one that was in the packet

2643
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:09,199
calls this a maximum allowable fee for a

2644
01:41:09,199 --> 01:41:11,600
detached ADU. There is no such thing

2645
01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:13,760
because they've not modeled that. What

2646
01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:15,280
they have modeled is they've modeled the

2647
01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:17,119
single family dwelling and the

2648
01:41:17,119 --> 01:41:19,600
multifamily dwelling that with all the

2649
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:21,600
data that we have this this proposed

2650
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:24,960
impact fee for detached ADUs is our 10%

2651
01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:27,840
reduction. So, I I wanted him to change

2652
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:30,159
that because it's not really defensible

2653
01:41:30,159 --> 01:41:32,400
to say it's a maximum allowable impact

2654
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:33,840
fee because it's not. It's not been

2655
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:36,080
modeled. It's really a choice that we're

2656
01:41:36,080 --> 01:41:37,920
making to try and help with moderate

2657
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:41,040
income housing. So, in both the in both

2658
01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:44,159
the uh sewer and the water, I've had him

2659
01:41:44,159 --> 01:41:45,840
change that table. Let me let me go to

2660
01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:47,040
the other one and I'll show you what

2661
01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:49,760
that looks like.

2662
01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:53,520
Does Brett does that does that like ruin

2663
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:55,760
the defensibility of the detached

2664
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:56,480
cities?

2665
01:41:56,480 --> 01:41:59,590
>> Okay.

2666
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:01,040
» You're not required to charge the

2667
01:42:01,040 --> 01:42:04,639
maximum allowable by the law. So

2668
01:42:04,639 --> 01:42:07,040
>> Chris, what table am I going to here?

2669
01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:09,840
>> Uh probably

2670
01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:11,600
that's the problem. The PI doesn't have

2671
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:12,719
that.

2672
01:42:12,719 --> 01:42:13,199
>> Um

2673
01:42:13,199 --> 01:42:14,719
>> yeah, pressurized irrigation wouldn't

2674
01:42:14,719 --> 01:42:15,760
have that because that's based on

2675
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:17,520
landscaped area. So it only be

2676
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:18,880
>> let me go to the other one.

2677
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:20,000
>> Drinking water and sewer.

2678
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:21,040
>> I need to go to the drinking

2679
01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:23,119
>> but the 90% is is a little more

2680
01:42:23,119 --> 01:42:25,280
arbitrary. You couldn't the maximum

2681
01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:28,639
allowable would actually be the 100%. So

2682
01:42:28,639 --> 01:42:30,560
it was a good change. It didn't it

2683
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:31,920
didn't change any number.

2684
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:34,239
>> So if you look at this that that maximum

2685
01:42:34,239 --> 01:42:37,520
allowable per data detach ADU is in in

2686
01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:39,840
is inaccurate wording. It should say

2687
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:41,360
what this one says and that is that

2688
01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:43,679
that's our proposed

2689
01:42:43,679 --> 01:42:45,600
impact fee for a detached ADU. That's

2690
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:47,440
the 10% that we've taken off which meets

2691
01:42:47,440 --> 01:42:49,360
our moderate income housing strategy

2692
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:51,760
which helped us keep meet our report. So

2693
01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:53,920
that is one change just in the IFA and

2694
01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:55,760
the for the drinking water and the

2695
01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:57,840
sanitary sewer that Chris made on the

2696
01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:00,159
fly and sent it to me a couple hours ago

2697
01:43:00,159 --> 01:43:01,600
and it's not in the packet but that's

2698
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:02,880
what I would ask you to

2699
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:05,600
>> should we make that part motion to

2700
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:08,159
>> yes and that and the tables that are

2701
01:43:08,159 --> 01:43:09,760
missing the numbers we can you can make

2702
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:12,080
that part of the motion as well or

2703
01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:13,920
>> that sounds good.

2704
01:43:13,920 --> 01:43:16,320
Okay. Any other questions for Chris or

2705
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:22,390
for Norm? For Brett?

2706
01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:24,320
Good. John,

2707
01:43:24,320 --> 01:43:27,440
you're clear, too.

2708
01:43:27,440 --> 01:43:31,119
Okay. Um, we closed the public hearing.

2709
01:43:31,119 --> 01:43:33,280
And now what I'd like to do is move into

2710
01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:36,239
item 8, 9, and 10. Starting with eight

2711
01:43:36,239 --> 01:43:38,239
on the adoption of the drinking water

2712
01:43:38,239 --> 01:43:43,840
impact fee facilities plan as proposed.

2713
01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:45,280
I'll make a motion that we adopt

2714
01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:48,880
ordinance number 030220

2715
01:43:48,880 --> 01:43:52,080
uh 2022 26 adoption of drinking water

2716
01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:55,679
impact fee facilities plan IFFFP and

2717
01:43:55,679 --> 01:43:58,239
impact fee analysis IFA is that the one

2718
01:43:58,239 --> 01:44:00,080
that we need to

2719
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:02,560
>> with the correction of scrier's errors

2720
01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:04,560
>> as noted

2721
01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:05,440
>> yes

2722
01:44:05,440 --> 01:44:06,000
>> okay

2723
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:08,400
>> second it moved and seconded Brian

2724
01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:08,800
>> I

2725
01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:09,280
>> art

2726
01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:09,760
>> I

2727
01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:10,320
>> Jeff

2728
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:11,600
>> I

2729
01:44:11,600 --> 01:44:12,480
>> Lynn I

2730
01:44:12,480 --> 01:44:13,040
>> Travis

2731
01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:13,840
>> I

2732
01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:16,719
>> Okay. Uh let's move on to number nine.

2733
01:44:16,719 --> 01:44:19,920
Ordinance 0303, the adoption of

2734
01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:22,960
pressurized irrigation impact fee uh

2735
01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:25,520
facilities plan and the impact fee

2736
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:30,159
analysis. Um I entertain a motion.

2737
01:44:30,159 --> 01:44:31,600
>> I'm getting to that. Hang on just a

2738
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:33,679
second. I'm getting to that ordinance.

2739
01:44:33,679 --> 01:44:35,119
Sorry, I should have just gone back

2740
01:44:35,119 --> 01:44:36,719
home.

2741
01:44:36,719 --> 01:44:38,719
>> And are there any questions on that

2742
01:44:38,719 --> 01:44:43,510
before we do so?

2743
01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:45,360
I'll make a motion we adopt ordinance

2744
01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:48,080
03032026,

2745
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:49,840
an ordinance adopting the Sanquin City

2746
01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:51,600
pressurized irrigation impact fee

2747
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:53,199
facilities plan and the pressurized

2748
01:44:53,199 --> 01:44:56,080
irrigation impact fee analysis and

2749
01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:58,320
enacting pressurized irrigation impact

2750
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:00,560
fees providing providing for

2751
01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:02,560
codification correction of scri

2752
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:05,040
scriveners errors severability and an

2753
01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:05,920
effective date.

2754
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:07,119
>> I'll second

2755
01:45:07,119 --> 01:45:08,800
>> moved and seconded. Brian,

2756
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:09,840
>> hi

2757
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:10,400
>> Art.

2758
01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:10,880
>> Hi

2759
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:11,360
>> Jeff.

2760
01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:11,760
>> Hi

2761
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:12,239
>> Lynn.

2762
01:45:12,239 --> 01:45:12,639
>> Hi

2763
01:45:12,639 --> 01:45:13,199
>> Travis.

2764
01:45:13,199 --> 01:45:14,800
>> Hi.

2765
01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:16,639
>> Eight and nine. Let's move on to number

2766
01:45:16,639 --> 01:45:19,600
10. Ordinance 0304, the adoption of

2767
01:45:19,600 --> 01:45:22,239
sanitary sewer impact fee facilities

2768
01:45:22,239 --> 01:45:25,679
plan and impact fee analysis. I'll make

2769
01:45:25,679 --> 01:45:29,119
a motion we adopt ordinance 03042026,

2770
01:45:29,119 --> 01:45:30,880
an ordinance adopting the Sanquin City

2771
01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:32,880
sanitary sewer impact fee facilities

2772
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:35,199
plan and the sanitary sewer impact fee

2773
01:45:35,199 --> 01:45:37,920
analysis and enacting sanitary sewer

2774
01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:40,000
impact fees providing for codification

2775
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:41,280
correction of scriveners errors,

2776
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:44,080
severability and an effective date.

2777
01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:47,440
>> I'll second moved and seconded. Travis

2778
01:45:47,440 --> 01:45:47,840
>> I

2779
01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:48,320
>> Lyn

2780
01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:48,719
>> I

2781
01:45:48,719 --> 01:45:49,280
>> Jeff

2782
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:50,239
>> I

2783
01:45:50,239 --> 01:45:50,800
>> Art

2784
01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:51,199
>> I

2785
01:45:51,199 --> 01:45:51,760
>> Brian

2786
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:53,440
>> I

2787
01:45:53,440 --> 01:45:57,280
>> that passes 8 n and 10 and we can move

2788
01:45:57,280 --> 01:45:59,920
on to a discussion and possible action

2789
01:45:59,920 --> 01:46:03,040
on the change order for the Vanc ULS

2790
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:06,480
pipeline. Chris and John,

2791
01:46:06,480 --> 01:46:08,719
thank you both for everything you've

2792
01:46:08,719 --> 01:46:11,040
done. Chris, especially

2793
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:14,560
um your work, your brains,

2794
01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:16,960
um and some of the the great outlook

2795
01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:19,760
that you had on on this program and and

2796
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:22,639
how we can make this better. So, thank

2797
01:46:22,639 --> 01:46:25,750
you.

2798
01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:32,790
Okay, John,

2799
01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:35,920
mayor and council, this is um say a

2800
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:38,080
followup to the the email that Norman

2801
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:40,560
sent uh early last week to kind of

2802
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:43,199
discuss our connection to the ULS

2803
01:46:43,199 --> 01:46:45,119
pipeline that was recently installed

2804
01:46:45,119 --> 01:46:47,760
over the last couple years. So, they're

2805
01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:50,080
going to be uh start filling that

2806
01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:53,360
pipeline up this this next month or so.

2807
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:58,320
Um, and we want to uh we we're needing

2808
01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:00,239
to get our connection to that line so

2809
01:47:00,239 --> 01:47:01,840
that we're transferring less water from

2810
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:04,000
our culinary water system into our

2811
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:07,360
pressurized irrigation system. And so,

2812
01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:09,440
um, to prevent, as been mentioned

2813
01:47:09,440 --> 01:47:14,400
before, to to help this process move

2814
01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:16,159
along a little bit further and not have

2815
01:47:16,159 --> 01:47:19,199
to worry about getting any access to any

2816
01:47:19,199 --> 01:47:22,560
uh, easements owned by central Utah and

2817
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:24,960
by extension the Bureau of Reclamation.

2818
01:47:24,960 --> 01:47:26,480
Um, if we're able to get this

2819
01:47:26,480 --> 01:47:28,719
constructed while they're under

2820
01:47:28,719 --> 01:47:30,639
construction of the pipeline, we're able

2821
01:47:30,639 --> 01:47:35,280
to to I can't say bypass may not be best

2822
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:37,199
term, but we're that requirement for us

2823
01:47:37,199 --> 01:47:39,840
to receive those easements and that

2824
01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:42,960
permission to access this goes away. And

2825
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:45,600
so an effort to to help do this so we

2826
01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:49,040
can get this installed in time for us to

2827
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:51,040
um to get us out of that easement and

2828
01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:53,119
allow us to construct the rest of the

2829
01:47:53,119 --> 01:47:55,600
PRVs that's needed um to make our

2830
01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:59,360
connection here uh after that um try and

2831
01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:01,920
get that completed um sometime in July

2832
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:04,560
so that we can get that get that water

2833
01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:06,480
to us and use it this year. So that's

2834
01:48:06,480 --> 01:48:09,119
the purpose of this this contract and

2835
01:48:09,119 --> 01:48:11,360
this this proposal uh to make that

2836
01:48:11,360 --> 01:48:13,360
connection. So, two things. This is a

2837
01:48:13,360 --> 01:48:14,960
ratification. We already pulled the

2838
01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:16,719
council on this last week and got the

2839
01:48:16,719 --> 01:48:18,159
approval to go ahead and order the valve

2840
01:48:18,159 --> 01:48:20,159
that needed to be the only one in Utah

2841
01:48:20,159 --> 01:48:22,159
that we could get to get it coming. And

2842
01:48:22,159 --> 01:48:24,400
so, that's this is for a ratification. I

2843
01:48:24,400 --> 01:48:26,400
would also mentioned that as we've

2844
01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:28,239
talked about, this would come forward.

2845
01:48:28,239 --> 01:48:30,320
An item related to this in a budget

2846
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:32,480
amendment would come forward at a at

2847
01:48:32,480 --> 01:48:34,159
another time when we do our next budget

2848
01:48:34,159 --> 01:48:36,000
amendment. We didn't have time from last

2849
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:37,840
week to do the 10-day noticing like I

2850
01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:39,440
was talking about in the other public

2851
01:48:39,440 --> 01:48:41,760
hearings, but um this is a ratification

2852
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:44,320
and also this money would come from the

2853
01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:45,920
capital repair and replacement fund and

2854
01:48:45,920 --> 01:48:48,960
then be replenished using impact fees as

2855
01:48:48,960 --> 01:48:50,400
they come in and are available to pay

2856
01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:52,960
that back. Uh pressure irrigation impact

2857
01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:53,760
fees. Yeah,

2858
01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:55,280
>> this is one of the projects. This

2859
01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:57,119
connection is one of the projects that's

2860
01:48:57,119 --> 01:48:59,679
in our current master plan in our IFFFP

2861
01:48:59,679 --> 01:49:04,960
and IFA that was just approved for the uh pressure irrigation.

2862
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:06,480
>> Y

2863
01:49:06,480 --> 01:49:08,000
I'm happy to answer any questions.

2864
01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:10,400
>> Yeah, we've we've talked about this.

2865
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:12,159
We've gone through it a little bit. Are

2866
01:49:12,159 --> 01:49:15,760
there any other questions that come up?

2867
01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:21,199
Norm did mention that this is part of a like a next phase that we have that we

2868
01:49:21,199 --> 01:49:23,360
haven't put at RFQ yet or

2869
01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:24,960
>> we have not put out to bid at this point

2870
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:26,080
in time. We have not.

2871
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:30,000
>> So Vanc is doing this work but for the

2872
01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:31,760
to finish it for that the rest of the

2873
01:49:31,760 --> 01:49:34,080
project are they will they automatically

2874
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:35,679
get that or are we going to do RFP and

2875
01:49:35,679 --> 01:49:37,600
>> we will do we will do a competitive bid

2876
01:49:37,600 --> 01:49:41,280
process. Okay. So we won't it's it's not

2877
01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:45,360
um Van Vancom is is

2878
01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:46,159
couple years.

2879
01:49:46,159 --> 01:49:48,400
>> Um but yes, we are going to be getting

2880
01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:51,440
separate bids to complete that the rest

2881
01:49:51,440 --> 01:49:52,800
of that project

2882
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:54,320
>> so that we get competitive to get out of

2883
01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:55,040
the easement.

2884
01:49:55,040 --> 01:49:56,320
>> This is just to get out of the central

2885
01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:57,520
Utah ement. That's correct.

2886
01:49:57,520 --> 01:49:59,840
>> So we're just we're moving it from the

2887
01:49:59,840 --> 01:50:02,000
future phase to this phase just to

2888
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:02,480
>> Yes.

2889
01:50:02,480 --> 01:50:03,920
>> avoid correct the easement.

2890
01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:04,560
>> Yes.

2891
01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:07,040
>> Yeah. Heartache and pain and cost.

2892
01:50:07,040 --> 01:50:09,360
>> Exactly. Makes it cheaper. So this will

2893
01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:11,440
come out of that 450 to 500,000.

2894
01:50:11,440 --> 01:50:13,280
>> It is it is included in that. And we've

2895
01:50:13,280 --> 01:50:15,440
also the the amount for these these

2896
01:50:15,440 --> 01:50:17,679
pieces of equipment and installation.

2897
01:50:17,679 --> 01:50:20,080
We've also verified that that meets our

2898
01:50:20,080 --> 01:50:22,560
estimated cost with Hansen Aloo. A

2899
01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:24,800
different Hansen Aloo team is doing the

2900
01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:26,480
design and is getting nearing a design

2901
01:50:26,480 --> 01:50:27,760
for that full connection.

2902
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:28,480
>> Okay.

2903
01:50:28,480 --> 01:50:28,960
>> Right.

2904
01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:31,280
>> But yes, that that 76,000 is part of

2905
01:50:31,280 --> 01:50:33,119
that $450 to $500,000.

2906
01:50:33,119 --> 01:50:34,000
>> I just wanted to make sure.

2907
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:35,840
>> Yep. Yes, sir.

2908
01:50:35,840 --> 01:50:37,840
>> Estimate. Yeah,

2909
01:50:37,840 --> 01:50:39,679
>> that's all I add.

2910
01:50:39,679 --> 01:50:43,119
>> Anything else? I'd entertain a motion on

2911
01:50:43,119 --> 01:50:44,639
move or change order two.

2912
01:50:44,639 --> 01:50:46,000
>> I'll make a motion to approve change

2913
01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:47,600
order number two for the installation of

2914
01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:49,760
the connection to the ULS pipeline for a

2915
01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:54,550
not to exceed amount of $75,956.

2916
01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:57,199
» Second moved and seconded. Brian

2917
01:50:57,199 --> 01:50:57,600
>> I

2918
01:50:57,600 --> 01:50:58,080
>> Hart

2919
01:50:58,080 --> 01:50:58,480
>> I

2920
01:50:58,480 --> 01:50:59,119
>> Jeff

2921
01:50:59,119 --> 01:50:59,440
>> I

2922
01:50:59,440 --> 01:51:00,000
>> Lynn

2923
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:00,400
>> I

2924
01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:00,880
>> Travis

2925
01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:01,840
>> I

2926
01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:05,600
>> motion passed and uh oh Norm sorry um

2927
01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:07,600
there was a typo on that my school

2928
01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:09,840
teacher can't mount

2929
01:51:09,840 --> 01:51:10,800
>> in the memo or

2930
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:12,880
>> if you go to that top paragraph on that

2931
01:51:12,880 --> 01:51:14,400
memorandum

2932
01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:16,639
um you got to yeah go down it's like the

2933
01:51:16,639 --> 01:51:18,560
third sentence it says if this valve and

2934
01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:20,320
pipe are not installed

2935
01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:21,199
>> that should be installed

2936
01:51:21,199 --> 01:51:23,520
>> I I noticed that

2937
01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:26,000
>> we'll we'll fix that we won't fail That

2938
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:27,360
was actually great. You know better than

2939
01:51:27,360 --> 01:51:29,520
us last week, too.

2940
01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:30,000
>> That was

2941
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:32,639
>> I knew what you meant.

2942
01:51:32,639 --> 01:51:33,679
>> Still getting called out.

2943
01:51:33,679 --> 01:51:35,280
>> You got the concrete guy. We got you.

2944
01:51:35,280 --> 01:51:37,840
>> He's an engineer, not a English major.

2945
01:51:37,840 --> 01:51:39,520
>> The problem with it is both engineers

2946
01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:42,719
missed it. So,

2947
01:51:42,719 --> 01:51:44,239
>> okay.

2948
01:51:44,239 --> 01:51:46,320
It'll be here all night.

2949
01:51:46,320 --> 01:51:50,239
>> Good. Uh, let's go on to reports.

2950
01:51:50,239 --> 01:51:52,480
>> Yeah. Just quickly, DRC Planning

2951
01:51:52,480 --> 01:51:53,840
Commission, there's not a whole lot

2952
01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:55,199
that's pending. I think there might be

2953
01:51:55,199 --> 01:51:56,880
one application that'll be ready for

2954
01:51:56,880 --> 01:52:04,560
planning commission. Uh and that's about it. Uh so uh we we'll look

2955
01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:07,440
at I I will probably take some time with

2956
01:52:07,440 --> 01:52:08,800
the new planning commissioner and and

2957
01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:10,719
train him and orient him, but aside from

2958
01:52:10,719 --> 01:52:12,560
that uh there may not be anything for

2959
01:52:12,560 --> 01:52:15,520
the meetings. Uh aside from that, I

2960
01:52:15,520 --> 01:52:16,639
don't really have anything else to

2961
01:52:16,639 --> 01:52:19,280
report tonight.

2962
01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:21,040
>> That's it.

2963
01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:23,199
Okay, Norm.

2964
01:52:23,199 --> 01:52:25,520
>> Yeah. Here we go. Water. Let's talk

2965
01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:27,040
about water, shall we?

2966
01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:27,440
>> Love it.

2967
01:52:27,440 --> 01:52:29,920
>> So, these are our two graphs for the

2968
01:52:29,920 --> 01:52:31,520
engineers in the room and everybody

2969
01:52:31,520 --> 01:52:34,960
else. Uh the bottom red line is where we

2970
01:52:34,960 --> 01:52:36,719
are currently at. This is this happens

2971
01:52:36,719 --> 01:52:39,119
to be the snow water equivalent. So,

2972
01:52:39,119 --> 01:52:40,960
right now we're about 8 in of water up

2973
01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:42,480
the canyon, which is also very

2974
01:52:42,480 --> 01:52:45,199
contiguous or or congruent with the

2975
01:52:45,199 --> 01:52:46,880
lowest water year since we've had our

2976
01:52:46,880 --> 01:52:49,040
snowtail site up there, which was 2017

2977
01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:51,280
2018 winter. That's about where we're

2978
01:52:51,280 --> 01:52:53,520
at. these these uh this graph and the

2979
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:54,719
other one will actually come out of the

2980
01:52:54,719 --> 01:52:56,000
mayor's newsletter to help people

2981
01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:58,480
understand where we're at. Um we're not

2982
01:52:58,480 --> 01:53:01,840
in a panic. We we have sufficient water

2983
01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:04,000
as long as we're as long as we're wise

2984
01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:08,400
with it. Uh our our uh WRF produces now

2985
01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:10,000
close to a million gallons a day. This

2986
01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:12,480
is the snow depth which isn't as

2987
01:53:12,480 --> 01:53:15,040
important as the snow water equivalent.

2988
01:53:15,040 --> 01:53:17,360
Uh again, down to about 18 inches on

2989
01:53:17,360 --> 01:53:20,400
that one. Um, I would just report that

2990
01:53:20,400 --> 01:53:22,800
again we're not we at this point in time

2991
01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:25,199
we do not anticipate water rationing or

2992
01:53:25,199 --> 01:53:27,599
any kind of restrictions. We have our

2993
01:53:27,599 --> 01:53:30,880
type one water that will provide water.

2994
01:53:30,880 --> 01:53:34,320
We also will be helping the uls the CW

2995
01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:36,159
the centry water conservancy district

2996
01:53:36,159 --> 01:53:39,040
test the ULS pipeline this year to be

2997
01:53:39,040 --> 01:53:42,080
able to have uh some some water there to

2998
01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:44,239
help us with. Last year, I think we

2999
01:53:44,239 --> 01:53:46,639
probably put a couple hundred acre feet

3000
01:53:46,639 --> 01:53:48,880
of culinary water into our PI tanks

3001
01:53:48,880 --> 01:53:50,960
because several of the sources were

3002
01:53:50,960 --> 01:53:56,000
down. The canyon was down and one of the local pumps was down and we

3003
01:53:56,000 --> 01:53:57,360
just didn't have access to it. So, we

3004
01:53:57,360 --> 01:53:58,960
ended up using some drinking water,

3005
01:53:58,960 --> 01:54:00,800
which again, thankfully, we have that

3006
01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:02,960
option. We have the ability to do that.

3007
01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:05,360
So, I don't have any other reports on

3008
01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:06,800
anything else other than I just

3009
01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:08,960
appreciate the the council and getting

3010
01:54:08,960 --> 01:54:11,040
these two new staff members on board. I

3011
01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:16,480
think it's going to be fantastic. Very, talented individuals and we're looking forward to having them

3012
01:54:16,480 --> 01:54:18,960
here with us and and moving our programs

3013
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:21,599
forward. So, thank you for that.

3014
01:54:21,599 --> 01:54:23,679
>> Okay, Travis,

3015
01:54:23,679 --> 01:54:26,400
>> I have nothing to report tonight.

3016
01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:30,159
>> Lyn, just thanks to the council and

3017
01:54:30,159 --> 01:54:33,360
mayor and city staff for um supporting

3018
01:54:33,360 --> 01:54:35,679
the Miss Sanquin. I I think those

3019
01:54:35,679 --> 01:54:37,440
scholarships mean a lot to those girls.

3020
01:54:37,440 --> 01:54:39,920
That's that's just a a pet project. I

3021
01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:41,679
love that. And I had two daughters

3022
01:54:41,679 --> 01:54:43,360
involved in that and they enjoyed that

3023
01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:46,480
and um it means a lot to the the little

3024
01:54:46,480 --> 01:54:48,400
girls that watch that too and they want

3025
01:54:48,400 --> 01:54:50,800
to be like Miss Adquin. So thank you.

3026
01:54:50,800 --> 01:54:52,560
That's all I have.

3027
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:53,679
>> Jeff,

3028
01:54:53,679 --> 01:54:57,760
>> I don't have anything art.

3029
01:54:57,760 --> 01:55:00,480
>> I was I was able to attend the Santa

3030
01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:03,920
Quinn pageant and was greatly enriched.

3031
01:55:03,920 --> 01:55:08,159
I was amazed at the the

3032
01:55:08,159 --> 01:55:10,239
talent that was exhibited and the and

3033
01:55:10,239 --> 01:55:12,239
the confidence and the bravery, if you

3034
01:55:12,239 --> 01:55:14,719
will, that those young ladies had to put

3035
01:55:14,719 --> 01:55:16,719
themselves out in front of the public

3036
01:55:16,719 --> 01:55:19,280
and and compete. And I appreciate it.

3037
01:55:19,280 --> 01:55:21,360
Um, I've had a couple residents this

3038
01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:25,360
week for some reason contact me. Um, one

3039
01:55:25,360 --> 01:55:29,599
is concerned about people living in RVs

3040
01:55:29,599 --> 01:55:32,880
and travel trailers and motor homes in

3041
01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:35,679
their yard. And the other one wants us

3042
01:55:35,679 --> 01:55:38,080
to build a swimming pool.

3043
01:55:38,080 --> 01:55:40,400
I know how that conversation will go. I

3044
01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:42,320
already I already told that person it

3045
01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:43,920
costs more to maintain it than it is to

3046
01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:45,920
build it in the first place. But

3047
01:55:45,920 --> 01:55:48,239
apparently um

3048
01:55:48,239 --> 01:55:50,480
Rever Health in Salem is closing down

3049
01:55:50,480 --> 01:55:54,000
their therapy pool and so we have a

3050
01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:56,480
about 12 at least 12 residents that are

3051
01:55:56,480 --> 01:55:58,960
being displaced

3052
01:55:58,960 --> 01:56:00,880
because of that and they're looking for

3053
01:56:00,880 --> 01:56:03,520
a new home. Um this particular resident

3054
01:56:03,520 --> 01:56:07,679
has offered to donate a lot to put the

3055
01:56:07,679 --> 01:56:11,440
pool on. They've procured volunteer

3056
01:56:11,440 --> 01:56:14,000
>> a lot as in money or a lot as in

3057
01:56:14,000 --> 01:56:14,719
property

3058
01:56:14,719 --> 01:56:15,520
>> ground.

3059
01:56:15,520 --> 01:56:16,320
>> Okay.

3060
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:19,360
>> Location. Um they've also procured

3061
01:56:19,360 --> 01:56:22,560
volunteers to supply all the equipment

3062
01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:26,239
and the staff to run it to dig the hole,

3063
01:56:26,239 --> 01:56:29,920
if you will. And and they say they have

3064
01:56:29,920 --> 01:56:33,520
some limited donations, but

3065
01:56:33,520 --> 01:56:35,760
we've had a swimming pool fund from the

3066
01:56:35,760 --> 01:56:37,440
very first time I was on the city

3067
01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:39,280
council.

3068
01:56:39,280 --> 01:56:42,480
And it's grown to a whopping 35 or

3069
01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:44,560
$37,000 since then.

3070
01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:44,960
>> Yeah,

3071
01:56:44,960 --> 01:56:46,639
>> that'll get you the steps in.

3072
01:56:46,639 --> 01:56:48,320
>> Anyway,

3073
01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:50,400
>> filters. Get you the filters

3074
01:56:50,400 --> 01:56:51,520
>> from him.

3075
01:56:51,520 --> 01:56:54,080
>> Again, just the appreciation to the

3076
01:56:54,080 --> 01:56:58,800
>> Tequila Gaudy and her entire staff and everybody that was involved in the

3077
01:56:58,800 --> 01:57:02,320
Miss Sanquin pageant. It was

3078
01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:04,320
is very rewarding for me personally to

3079
01:57:04,320 --> 01:57:06,560
be there. Thank you.

3080
01:57:06,560 --> 01:57:09,679
>> Good. Thanks, Art. Uh Brian,

3081
01:57:09,679 --> 01:57:11,599
>> um just a quick update. Uh we had the

3082
01:57:11,599 --> 01:57:13,760
America 250 committee meeting. There's

3083
01:57:13,760 --> 01:57:14,960
some pretty good things planned for

3084
01:57:14,960 --> 01:57:21,119
that. Um and art uh contest um some good

3085
01:57:21,119 --> 01:57:24,320
prizes. I mean money for um different

3086
01:57:24,320 --> 01:57:26,480
categories for I think it's four

3087
01:57:26,480 --> 01:57:29,199
different groups uh based on K through

3088
01:57:29,199 --> 01:57:32,719
12 age group. So like I think

3089
01:57:32,719 --> 01:57:36,080
three uh grades per group. Um, and then

3090
01:57:36,080 --> 01:57:39,440
there's also a writing contest as well.

3091
01:57:39,440 --> 01:57:41,440
Um, we also had the community services

3092
01:57:41,440 --> 01:57:43,679
board meeting. Uh, that was really

3093
01:57:43,679 --> 01:57:45,199
great. We have a lot of really great

3094
01:57:45,199 --> 01:57:48,880
people um on the board. Uh, we talked

3095
01:57:48,880 --> 01:57:57,119
about a lot of different things about um the rap tax and I think that's coming

3096
01:57:57,119 --> 01:58:02,239
up here in 2028 is when it expires. Um,

3097
01:58:02,239 --> 01:58:04,800
and so, uh, something that I brought up

3098
01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:07,440
and we talked about was just moving

3099
01:58:07,440 --> 01:58:09,199
forward, communication. We had that big

3100
01:58:09,199 --> 01:58:13,360
rap tax open house. Um,

3101
01:58:13,360 --> 01:58:15,040
not a lot of residents other than those

3102
01:58:15,040 --> 01:58:16,560
who were on the rap tax committee showed

3103
01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:19,599
up. Um maybe even like redirecting those

3104
01:58:19,599 --> 01:58:22,480
efforts towards a digital communications

3105
01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:25,920
campaign of hey every week someone's

3106
01:58:25,920 --> 01:58:28,880
some project is spotlighted to say hey

3107
01:58:28,880 --> 01:58:30,320
this is something that's sponsored by

3108
01:58:30,320 --> 01:58:33,599
raptax to to make it not maybe a one

3109
01:58:33,599 --> 01:58:36,080
time a day but but proactively

3110
01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:38,960
throughout the year show residents hey

3111
01:58:38,960 --> 01:58:41,199
this is valuable um especially as it

3112
01:58:41,199 --> 01:58:44,960
comes up for possibly ratifying that

3113
01:58:44,960 --> 01:58:48,239
again. Um, I would love for us to

3114
01:58:48,239 --> 01:58:51,520
continue doing it. Um, and I know that

3115
01:58:51,520 --> 01:58:54,400
usually it passes, but um, it'd be great

3116
01:58:54,400 --> 01:58:56,000
for us to just communicate that. That

3117
01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:59,360
was something that got brought up. Um,

3118
01:58:59,360 --> 01:59:03,040
and then just when this person uh,

3119
01:59:03,040 --> 01:59:04,480
Cammy, right?

3120
01:59:04,480 --> 01:59:04,960
>> Mhm.

3121
01:59:04,960 --> 01:59:08,080
>> Um, I'd love to talk to her about rap

3122
01:59:08,080 --> 01:59:09,760
tax and and the projects that we have

3123
01:59:09,760 --> 01:59:12,159
planned. So, if you just let me know. um

3124
01:59:12,159 --> 01:59:13,520
because that was something we talked

3125
01:59:13,520 --> 01:59:15,440
about in the meetings and a lot of board

3126
01:59:15,440 --> 01:59:18,880
members want to be involved um in in the

3127
01:59:18,880 --> 01:59:22,480
future. But no, that's it for me.

3128
01:59:22,480 --> 01:59:25,040
Yeah, I just want to say that uh Morgan

3129
01:59:25,040 --> 01:59:28,480
and Cammy are going to be good people

3130
01:59:28,480 --> 01:59:32,320
and uh certainly uh want to reiterate

3131
01:59:32,320 --> 01:59:36,560
that um the caliber the uh abilities of

3132
01:59:36,560 --> 01:59:42,960
these people that we've interviewed and had a chance to meet prior to this

3133
01:59:42,960 --> 01:59:46,560
uh approval today with exceptional great

3134
01:59:46,560 --> 01:59:50,239
people all the way around. um which is

3135
01:59:50,239 --> 01:59:52,320
different than most most hiring

3136
01:59:52,320 --> 01:59:54,880
situations you you tend to get in.

3137
01:59:54,880 --> 01:59:55,280
>> Yeah.

3138
01:59:55,280 --> 01:59:57,679
>> Um so I appreciate that. I think we're

3139
01:59:57,679 --> 02:00:01,360
moving ahead very well. Um

3140
02:00:01,360 --> 02:00:04,960
we will uh or I did write uh the

3141
02:00:04,960 --> 02:00:06,880
newsletter for next month that is going

3142
02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:08,560
to be about the water. It's just going

3143
02:00:08,560 --> 02:00:11,920
to go on a little bit more and Norm

3144
02:00:11,920 --> 02:00:14,080
helped collaborate and write half of it

3145
02:00:14,080 --> 02:00:16,159
so make sure that I didn't make a

3146
02:00:16,159 --> 02:00:20,239
mistake. So, um, I appreciate all of

3147
02:00:20,239 --> 02:00:23,360
that to all of you guys. And I do need

3148
02:00:23,360 --> 02:00:28,159
to ask it's 9:00 that we adjourn to a

3149
02:00:28,159 --> 02:00:31,440
short close session which may be called

3150
02:00:31,440 --> 02:00:33,679
to discuss pending a reasonable imminent

3151
02:00:33,679 --> 02:00:35,920
litigation, collective bargaining, andor

3152
02:00:35,920 --> 02:00:38,000
the purchase, exchange, or lease of real

3153
02:00:38,000 --> 02:00:40,159
property. a proposed development

3154
02:00:40,159 --> 02:00:42,480
agreement, a project proposal, or a

3155
02:00:42,480 --> 02:00:45,360
financing proposal related to the

3156
02:00:45,360 --> 02:00:47,760
development of land owned by the state.

3157
02:00:47,760 --> 02:00:49,599
>> Mayor, can I add one thing before we do

3158
02:00:49,599 --> 02:00:52,480
that? I just want to again refer back to

3159
02:00:52,480 --> 02:00:57,199
this young man, Jackson Jensen, and his

3160
02:00:57,199 --> 02:01:00,480
foresight and his eagerness to develop

3161
02:01:00,480 --> 02:01:02,960
this food pantry. I think it's it's just

3162
02:01:02,960 --> 02:01:04,719
marvelous. It's unbelievable young man

3163
02:01:04,719 --> 02:01:06,000
like that came up coming up with that

3164
02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:08,000
idea and he's he's got it all organized

3165
02:01:08,000 --> 02:01:10,320
and ready to go and strongly support it.

3166
02:01:10,320 --> 02:01:12,000
>> It's going to be fun to see how that

3167
02:01:12,000 --> 02:01:13,920
grows. That's that's what I think.

3168
02:01:13,920 --> 02:01:17,040
That's a wonderful public project.

3169
02:01:17,040 --> 02:01:17,679
>> Yep.

3170
02:01:17,679 --> 02:01:20,320
>> So I still ask for a motion. It's 901.

3171
02:01:20,320 --> 02:01:21,360
>> So moved.

3172
02:01:21,360 --> 02:01:22,639
>> Moved. Is there a second?

3173
02:01:22,639 --> 02:01:23,599
>> I'll second.

3174
02:01:23,599 --> 02:01:25,599
>> Moved and seconded. Brian

3175
02:01:25,599 --> 02:01:26,880
>> I.

3176
02:01:26,880 --> 02:01:27,360
>> Jeff

3177
02:01:27,360 --> 02:01:27,760
>> I.

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>> Lynn I.

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>> Travis

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>> I. Now, rather than take a great big

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break, I think if we just