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Welcome to our city council regular

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meeting. It's Tuesday the 16th of June.

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And it's 7:11.

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So, 7:11 will happen in July and if you

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go to 7:11, you can get a free slurpee.

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Just thought I'd tell you that.

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Have to make things fun. Anyway, thank

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you for being part of our council

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meeting tonight.

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>> [clears throat]

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>> I'll dispense with the roll call as

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everyone's here and we're ready to go.

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would like to ask if anyone would like

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to lead us in the pledge of allegiance.

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>> I'll do it mayor.

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>> Please stand.

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with me. I

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>> allegiance to the flag of the United

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States of America and to the republic

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for which it stands, one nation under

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God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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» Thanks Jason. Can I ask if there's

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anyone that would offer an invocation or

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leave us with an inspirational thought?

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say the prayer.

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» Our Father in heaven, we are grateful

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tonight for the many blessings that we

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have.

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Grateful to be able to serve this city

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as a council.

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And grateful for the many good people

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that we serve and serve with.

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We're grateful for the

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representation that we have tonight and

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ask that thy spirit will be with us, as

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listen to comments,

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as we

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work to continue to help this city. May

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we do so with thy spirit and with thy

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blessing.

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We're so grateful for where we live.

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Father, we ask for one other thing this

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night, and that's for

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rains to fall

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and to bless our community with

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water that will help in growing of crops

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around our city, even helping with the

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lawns.

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moisture in the winter

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that will help us through next year. And

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we say this in the name of Jesus Christ.

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» I'd like to ask if there is uh

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declaration of a potential conflict of

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interest on anything that we're going to

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discuss tonight.

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Hearing none, then we'll move on to the

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next thing. That's the consent agenda.

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Uh consent agenda

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will be uh

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number one, the minutes of 6:02.

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that. Are there any comments or uh

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issues?

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for our regular meeting.

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Should that be 6:03?

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>> It's the day, mayor.

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It's June 2nd work session and June 2nd.

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any comments on the regular meeting

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minutes?

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bills, and it's a very light bill this

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last two weeks. It's only what 4,382,000

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329 and I'm glad there was 61 cents. So,

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those.

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those expenditures?

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portion of that is for the uh WRF that

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we're currently upgrading. So,

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>> And maybe Shannon has some insight.

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Medicare ACH transaction fees. Is that

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just know I like I'm I noticed there's

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like three different like transaction

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related like credit card fees or this

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and I'm like I I've no idea what it is.

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ambulance insurance payments through

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Medicaid, Medicare. Um they directly get

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deposited into our checking account.

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of those two um process them and and get them to us.

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then there's a small fee that comes off

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every time we get a payment from the

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federal government.

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>> Oh, do we take that into account for

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what we bill or is it do we have any

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say? Like does the government say this

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is the rate that we'll pay or can we say

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hey we have to pay this fee so we

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that, but I'm pretty sure it's a

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standard rate for every claim.

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>> Okay. Thanks.

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>> Okay, any other questions on that?

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consent agenda.

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>> So moved.

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>> Seconded.

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>> Moved and seconded.

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» Lynn.

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>> Jeff.

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>> Art.

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>> Brian.

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>> You didn't take that.

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Um public foreign bid openings, awards,

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and appointments. Uh we have an

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appointment tonight.

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appointment. And uh

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>> Yeah, as we talked about in the work

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our code requires that for the

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review committee, we have a

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representative from the planning

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commission be on that committee.

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planning commission

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representative, but she's not been in

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the plan She's not on the planning

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commission anymore. Uh we still retain

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her with with a amendment the council

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recently did to to keep an alternate. Um

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So, she still will will do that, but we need a new planning commission

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representative. And And after talking

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with the mayor and and talking with this

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person, uh we're proposing and ask that

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[clears throat] you consider uh Briana

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Nixon to to be that planning

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commissioner who will be on the

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architectural review committee. She She

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does work in real estate. I think she's

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also got a uh a good design eye with some of the work that she does with looking at homes and that sort of a

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kind of what uh applies to Kylie Lance

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as well with her experience with that.

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I think you ought to come up and

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stand before us.

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have any questions for Brianna?

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>> Brianna

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has served on this committee for some

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time and and more than anything I'm glad

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that you're

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glad to take on one more opportunity to

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>> Yeah, no it'll be exciting. We like

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Jason said I love watching and designing

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commercial buildings. That's what

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me and my husband mainly have done is

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commercial buildings. So I'm excited to

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>> Okay, any questions that you guys have

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Brianna? She about called you Kathleen.

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>> Then I would entertain a motion for the

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arc appointment.

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>> So moved.

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>> Seconded.

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>> Moved and seconded. Travis?

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>> Dan?

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>> Jeff?

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>> Art?

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>> So you are on. Now do we swear her in or

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>> care of that later. It doesn't have to

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happen here but she's already been sworn

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in on the planning commission and so

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she's had that embarrassment of doing

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that in a public meeting. We'll we'll do

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that.

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thank you and thanks for bringing

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your number one employee because he told

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me he had four years this year?

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>> No, six years.

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>> Six years.

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>> Yeah, I've been there six years already.

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>> Thank you Chad for keeping [laughter]

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keeping us clean.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Appreciate it very much.

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I'd like to move on to the public forum

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and nobody signed up. However, in this

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we are going to talk about safe routes

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to school and and I've asked the police

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chief to come because he had a meeting

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that he reported to us on just recently

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about safe and would like if you'd just

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give us a a little bit of information

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before we step in. We we had the PTA

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president that's asked for time and

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we're going to have her come up

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afterwards, too.

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>> Yeah, Mr. Mayor, Council.

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Uh we had our annual safe routes meeting

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has probably been 2 weeks ago or so and

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I think we uh

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got [clears throat] Orchard Hills and

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Apple Valley taken care of with a few

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minor changes.

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But uh Santaquin Elementary is always

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kind of a hot topic and always kind of

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been an issue.

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And so we discussed this at length, but

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uh they wanted to

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they didn't call it table, but we would

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call it table it for future meetings

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because it was outside the scope of what

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we were talking about. So, I thought the

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next time I don't have a date on this

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meeting, but uh I thought that it would

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be a good idea if Jason and John

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went with me to that meeting and see if

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there's something we can do to help them

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out over there.

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I would be hesitant hesitant to

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make any major changes without the

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school district's buy-in

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because unless they

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disperse the kids in a different manner,

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I think it's going to have the same

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bottleneck effect on traffic.

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>> How did they compute the disbursement or

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the collection of kids to the schools?

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>> You know, I

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maybe Councilman Meekam can expand on

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this, but I'm not exactly sure of their

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safety policies and procedures, but I

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understand is they don't want any access

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into the school district property. Like

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I don't know if you remember, but on the

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north side of Santaquin Elementary,

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there used to be a couple of pedestrian

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gates over there and they've since taken

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them out. I understand they had a

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district

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policy change at some point.

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And so they all want them coming out the

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same way out of the same doors.

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So, um

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I I think that needs to be

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because I don't know of a great solution

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with with without

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some sort of modification to that

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policy.

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>> Did they direct you with anything that

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came from the school district to change this year?

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>> Not from

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I do have a couple changes from the

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other schools.

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>> Okay.

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So Chief, just to be clear also, the the

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district is the one that sets the safe

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routes. They they they in concert with

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us of everything from signage to to

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crosswalks and other things. They're the

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ones that set the routes rather than us.

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>> Generally Generally speaking, yes, but

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we do have a little bit of obviously

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what's at least school property. We do

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have a little bit of input on that.

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But But you need it it needs to be a

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partnership.

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>> Right.

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Okay.

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>> Any other questions or concerns?

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>> Well, I I just wanted you to report on

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that meeting that you went to because

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now we're going to hear if there are

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other things that we need to act upon

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or that need to be taken before the the

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school district.

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>> Okay.

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>> So that we can take care of it before

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school starts.

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>> Okay.

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>> There's no problem the money can't fix,

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Mayor.

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>> [laughter]

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>> So true.

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>> Really?

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» Huh.

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Oh, that hurts.

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>> [laughter]

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>> I I'm sorry. I forgot your name.

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>> I'm Valerie.

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>> Yeah. Would you come up and introduce

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yourself? And I know you have a

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presentation.

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>> Yes.

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So I think maybe some of wires got

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crossed because I had asked

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to do a presentation

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for a couple of

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school issues that we've been having

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[clears throat] or discussing.

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But safe routes is one of them. So I'm

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glad that you're here to clarify some of

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that.

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Um

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>> Hang on just a second. Let me get you

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see if I can get you

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» [snorts]

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» Is that yours?

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>> Yes, that's mine.

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So, [snorts] okay.

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Um, my name is Mallory Durrant. I know a

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few of you. I am a resident here in

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Santaquin.

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Um, I have four kids at home who as of

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this next school year will be attending

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Santaquin Elementary School and I am the

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PTA safety officer there. I would never

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take on the role of PTA president.

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>> [laughter]

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>> I will leave that for my friend

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Andrea [clears throat] here.

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Um, but I do have a background in safety

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and emergency management. I've actually

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worked with Art on a few things. Um, and

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then my partner in crime here is Andrea

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Howard. She is the art teacher at

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Santaquin Elementary. She has two kids.

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Um, one of them just graduated from

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Santaquin. The other is still here at

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Santaquin. Um, and she has held multiple

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positions in the PTA including the best

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PTA president we've had. So, she's here

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to represent the school.

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Uh, both of us have discussed and had

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meetings with Miss Ribble who is the

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elementary school principal.

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Um, she is fully supportive of

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everything that we are presenting here

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today, but she was not able to attend.

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So, for this presentation, I'm going to

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present our requests in two phases, but

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we can take a break in between the two

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to discuss the differences in them and

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what we're asking for.

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Um, also I call them phases, but

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ultimately they are just two separate

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requests for things to be done here in

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Santaquin to make the school safer.

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Um,

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so, that's where we're at. So, our first

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request is for infrastructure

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improvements along the elementary

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school's dedicated safe routes path.

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Um

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last year at the beginning of the school

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year, I sent an email to each of you

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informing you of the serious issues that

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we were running into at Santaquin

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Elementary, and I'm really appreciative

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because a lot of those issues were

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addressed and we were very grateful, but

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there are still many safety concerns

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when it comes to Santaquin Elementary,

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and that includes student near misses,

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there's a lack of signage and crosswalk

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issues that have been major concerns

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over this last school year.

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Um that we are trying to get addressed

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before this new school year starts.

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So, to walk you through it a little bit,

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one of our big biggest concerns um is

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for a stop sign at the school T.

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Uh the T intersection near Santaquin

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Elementary currently lacks clear

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control, it creates confusion for all of

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the drivers, the parents, and the

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students walking.

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Um

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there are a lot of issues that if you go

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on any given school morning or afternoon

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during drop-off or pick-up, you will see

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the issues at that specific school T.

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>> Is that one Okay, I was just about to

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ask which

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There's multiple T's on there, I don't

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know which one it is.

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>> right there

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um on 100 South and 400 West.

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>> I was wondering what was going on.

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>> So,

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I wanted to just discuss these areas and

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signs. Now, these pictures were pulled

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off of Google Maps, so they're a little

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outdated, but the first one is

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um where a sign used to be several years

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ago. There used to be a stop sign there.

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Nobody knows Nobody can seem to tell us

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where that stop sign went. Um

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the where that is circled, where there

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used to be a stop sign, is a sign saying

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it is a one-way street on 400 West

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between 8:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m. only for

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that

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block.

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Only for that specific block.

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Um which is also confusing because only

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that portion of the street is one way,

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not the entire street in front of the

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school.

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Now, we are hoping to get a large stop

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sign right here.

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Um between this building and the

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library, the stop sign is bolted partway

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into the street. Um and that we feel

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should be an option for the school

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because this gravel area in front of it

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is where people park to drop off and

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pick up their kids. So, putting it off

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to the side by the sidewalk will not be

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very visible.

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So, I just wanted to bring that up as

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well. Um

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and then over there on the side is the

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exit of the school where the cars exit

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the roundabout when they do drop off,

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they turn left, and that causes extra

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traffic issues. And this especially

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causes problems when there are three

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ways of traffic crossing with no stops.

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Everyone is fighting for their in. Um

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and that's directly where the children

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cross to go to school. And you can see

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on both sides there are white lines

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where the children cross.

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And um

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no signage saying stop, pause, yield,

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anything for the kids.

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So.

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That is um one of our

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signage issues that we're running into.

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Another one is there is on the exit from

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the school, there is a no or a right

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turn only. If you can see, it is very

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small. It is tucked behind the um

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Tabitha Way box, which distracts from

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the sign itself, and it is not

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adhered to. Nobody has Very few people

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seem to care that it is there. We would

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like a great big large high visibility

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sign there that says no left turn or

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right turn only.

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Um now, the signage around the school is

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an issue that we want to resolve, but in

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addition to that

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the state law for the safe routes um

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is that students have a designated safe

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route for walking.

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Now, we have three options for that. It

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is Main Street, it is 100 and it is 200

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South. Um we are not going to use Main

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Street. And just so you know, I'm on

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Community Council. We discuss this in

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length every year. I've been on

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Community Council for 4 years. This has

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been brought up

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every single year. Um

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So, I just want to give that background,

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but uh we're not able to use Main

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Street. That's obvious.

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We don't want to use 200 South for the

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safe route for multiple reasons, but

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including um the lack of stop signs east

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to west and then the run from Rally's

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Red Barn at higher speeds. We want to

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keep it at the lower speeds. So, our

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only really good option is 100 South,

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which makes sense. That's directly in

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front of the school. On 100 South, we

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have the school, we have the park, we

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have the Chief Can Museum, we have the

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City Community Center, and we have the

562
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,800
City Library. All of which are used as

563
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,760
kids go to and from school and after

564
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,640
school activities.

565
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,280
So,

566
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,200
the issue we're running into is that

567
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,240
there is not a safe good path to get

568
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,880
from the school up to the library. We

569
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:59,160
don't currently have a sidewalk that is

570
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:00,480
straight from the school up to the

571
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,400
library. It varies on different sides of

572
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,760
the street. A lot of times it is

573
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,040
overgrown from the homes there covered

574
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,280
in bushes.

575
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,080
In places like the where those the

576
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,800
gravel area where um people park,

577
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,920
anytime that it is winter and there's

578
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,880
snow on that, those portions don't get

579
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,920
plowed and so the kids are forced to

580
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,440
walk directly in the street instead of

581
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,760
on the sides. Um

582
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,840
So, those are just some of the issues

583
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,670
we're running into with our safe routes.

584
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,040
So, now I just wanted to make it very

585
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,120
clear what I'm talk talking about. So,

586
00:21:38,120 --> 00:21:40,360
this first circle is where the school

587
00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:43,040
does its own crossing guards.

588
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,080
Um those were the two crosswalks we

589
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,049
have. Now, under state law

590
00:21:48,049 --> 00:21:48,880
[clears throat]

591
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,280
um it's local highway authority is

592
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:52,760
supposed to pay for and supervise

593
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,200
crossing guards if it falls under the

594
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,960
primary entity of the city, which um

595
00:21:59,960 --> 00:22:01,840
which it only falls under reduced speed

596
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,080
zones. But, we don't even have a reduced

597
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,040
speed zone by that school.

598
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,320
It's still the normal speed zones. So,

599
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:11,760
I just wanted to point that out that

600
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,520
where our kids don't even have a stop

601
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,400
sign, there's no reduced speed zone.

602
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,120
Um

603
00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:20,880
that intersection not being a reduced

604
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,920
speed zone is an issue,

605
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,680
but

606
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,440
we're not we're not even asking the city

607
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,160
to formally extend the school zone to

608
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,160
cover this hazard. We're just asking that you guys

609
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,865
put in the signage to make it safe.

610
00:22:35,865 --> 00:22:35,920
>> [clears throat]

611
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,120
>> Um

612
00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:40,920
in addition to that,

613
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,960
all of these red circles from the school

614
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,040
up to the library

615
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,600
have no crosswalks.

616
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,880
Um the green circle is the current only

617
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,880
one that has two white lines making it a

618
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,560
crosswalk crossing the street east to

619
00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,240
west.

620
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,320
Um that's also the one nearest to the

621
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,880
police station. So, we're asking that we

622
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,600
get dedicated crosswalks from the school

623
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,360
up to the library on each of those

624
00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:16,350
intersections from east to west.

625
00:23:16,360 --> 00:23:19,760
Um so, this comes directly from the safe

626
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,560
routes website.

627
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,400
I emailed you guys

628
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,360
a few months ago about a grant that I'm

629
00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:29,400
hoping that the city can apply for this

630
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,000
summer fall or the summer and fall.

631
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,960
We've been working with Travis Kill on

632
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,680
it. Um it won't open until the end of

633
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,920
summer and it would get more money to

634
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,520
initiate better safety protocols.

635
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,320
Um however, one we aren't guaranteed to

636
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,240
get it and two, it has a a 2-year time

637
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,240
period it takes to implement those

638
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,360
changes. And so, for now I'm trying to

639
00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:56,040
just propose the most cost-efficient

640
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,120
changes that could benefit the kids and

641
00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:02,400
the community really um prior to us even

642
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,280
putting in this grant application and

643
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,040
prior to the new school year starting.

644
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,040
Um

645
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,120
so, I just want to pause here for a

646
00:24:10,120 --> 00:24:12,520
moment and ask if you have any questions

647
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,160
or any aspect of this phase that you

648
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,080
want to discuss before I talk about

649
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,550
phase two.

650
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,760
» Does anybody have any questions?

651
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,200
>> And maybe to address um Officer Hurst or

652
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,120
Chief Hurst, it is my understanding what

653
00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:30,680
we were told in school community

654
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,640
council, anything at the school

655
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,120
is the responsibility of the school

656
00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:37,320
district. Everything else is the

657
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,840
responsibility of the city. The school,

658
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,400
we are required as a school community

659
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,680
council to present the safest option and

660
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,400
then we're asked to work with the city

661
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,680
to make sure that safe option is known

662
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:50,840
to you.

663
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,960
Um so, that that's my understanding. I

664
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,200
don't

665
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,000
>> Most part yes.

666
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,240
>> Okay.

667
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:58,800
>> Maybe just as a clarification, when

668
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,120
you're talking about new crosswalks at

669
00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:04,080
Was it 200 West and 100 West?

670
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,400
Are you just wanting them painted or are

671
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,080
you looking for someone to man those

672
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,800
crosswalks during school?

673
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,600
>> No, we're looking for it to be painted

674
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,520
and appropriate signage showing that

675
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,240
they are crosswalks and that children

676
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,040
will be crossing there. Um, for an

677
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,560
actual crossing guard, there is

678
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,800
a requirement depending on the the speed

679
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,120
that I was talking about earlier and so

680
00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:28,960
it's not necessarily

681
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,950
to that point, I would say.

682
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:34,560
» Okay.

683
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:35,560
>> All right, matter.

684
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:36,520
>> Phase two.

685
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,160
>> Okay, so phase two.

686
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,600
Um,

687
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,560
the next thing we are requesting is

688
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,360
implementation of the NOVA program into

689
00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:48,040
Santaquin elementary schools.

690
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,560
NOVA stands for nurturing opportunities,

691
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,880
values, and accountability.

692
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,000
So, this is an elementary school program

693
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,160
that works with fifth graders and it is

694
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,360
actually very widespread throughout Utah

695
00:26:00,360 --> 00:26:02,280
County as well as Davis and Salt Lake

696
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,120
Counties. Um, surrounding areas to us

697
00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:07,320
have regular preventive curriculum with

698
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,880
local law enforcement. Our own Travis

699
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,960
Kill was a NOVA instructor at Payson.

700
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,240
>> This is uh

701
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,080
Park View Elementary and Spring Lake

702
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:17,840
Elementary.

703
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:18,880
>> Okay.

704
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,960
So, um, I had a meeting with Mr. Lyman

705
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,880
Gifford, who is the program director and

706
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,720
in that meeting I found out that in Utah

707
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,720
County alone, Payson, Spanish Fork,

708
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,880
Springville, Pleasant Grove, Mapleton,

709
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,840
Elk Ridge, Genola, Goshen, Cedar Fort,

710
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,760
Fairfield, and Eureka all use NOVA as

711
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,000
their primary preventive curriculum.

712
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,480
Nephi does as well.

713
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,480
So, ultimately all surrounding areas use

714
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,320
this program and Santaquin currently has

715
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,800
no preventive curriculum program that we

716
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,160
are using.

717
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,560
Um the Nephi Police Department um is one

718
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:56,920
of the few police departments that

719
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,680
actually maintain a robust school

720
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,160
resource officer program with officers

721
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,480
that actually go and

722
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,040
work in the elementary schools uh to

723
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,160
maintain regular interaction. We do not

724
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,520
have that in Santaquin. Um we do reach

725
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,760
out to Santaquin police and we try to

726
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,640
get interaction with them, but it is

727
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,480
difficult to get them there on occasion

728
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,560
because of their workload.

729
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,120
So,

730
00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:23,880
with 180 schools across Utah that are

731
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,440
already seeing the benefits of NOvA, we

732
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,240
would like Santaquin Elementary to be

733
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,240
the pilot for our city. Um

734
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,800
this is not testing a new theory. This

735
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,000
is an adoption of a proven Utah success

736
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,680
story to ensure that our kids have the

737
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,280
same safety and character tools as kids

738
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,760
in Provo, in Spanish Fork, in Salt Lake

739
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:45,920
City.

740
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,720
Um it's a program that focuses on

741
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,800
prevention and teaching kids to make

742
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,360
right choices before a crisis occurs,

743
00:27:52,360 --> 00:27:54,920
but it will also build community trust

744
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,640
and turning police officers from a

745
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,640
figure of authority that are only seen

746
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,120
during trouble

747
00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:02,480
into teachers and mentors seen every

748
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,870
week at school.

749
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,520
So, why this matters.

750
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,720
On the first side, this graphic was

751
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,440
taken directly from the 2025 Santaquin

752
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,880
Police Department annual report. And

753
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,520
this report shows that in Santaquin

754
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,600
alone in 2025, 30% of arrests in

755
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,560
Santaquin were of juveniles under the

756
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,000
age of 19.

757
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,920
On the other side, I pulled statistics

758
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,480
from multiple different places to find

759
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,480
the national average of youth arrests.

760
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,160
The national average for youth arrests

761
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,560
is 7%.

762
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,760
This shows us that overall, Santaquin

763
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,640
youth have a 429%

764
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,680
higher likelihood of arrest than the

765
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,920
average youth in the United States. That

766
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,640
is nearly four and a half times more

767
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,430
likely.

768
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,960
A youth arrest rate that is more than

769
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,760
four times the national average isn't

770
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,440
just a statistic, it is a warning light.

771
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,120
It tells us that too many young people

772
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,960
in our community are crossing paths with

773
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,000
the justice system long before they

774
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,520
should and that the current approach

775
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,120
isn't catching problems early enough.

776
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,280
A prevention focused police program in

777
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,280
the school becomes essential because it

778
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,640
shifts the dynamic from reacting to

779
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,120
arrests to building relationships,

780
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,240
teaching skills, and intervening before

781
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,200
a crisis ever happens.

782
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,080
So, when police officers are present as

783
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,480
mentors and educators, rather than only

784
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,240
responders, students gain trust,

785
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,240
guidance, and positive connections that

786
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,320
reduce the likelihood of ever entering

787
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,480
that 30% category.

788
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,720
So, this statistic makes the case very

789
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,120
clearly to me. If you want different

790
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,160
outcomes, you need early, consistent,

791
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,320
and constructive engagement right where

792
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,240
the kids spend most of their time, which

793
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,150
is at the schools.

794
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,920
So,

795
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,080
the program investment um House Bill 40

796
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,440
this year allocated 25 plus million

797
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,520
dollars for school safety, but they

798
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,560
leave the responsibility of prevention

799
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,360
programs to individual cities.

800
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:00,615
So,

801
00:30:00,615 --> 00:30:00,680
>> [clears throat]

802
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,160
>> what we are proposing today and asking

803
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,680
is whether or not Santaquin would be

804
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,880
willing to implement this program in a

805
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,760
sustainable way to get it into our

806
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,280
schools and help our local youth.

807
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,080
Now, here's the cost breakdown, which I

808
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,240
got from my meeting with Mr. Gifford.

809
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,600
The cost to start the program is $3,000.

810
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,520
This covers a one-year licensing fee,

811
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,040
which is $500, and covers all the

812
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,200
curriculum, handouts, and educational

813
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,720
materials.

814
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,200
1,500 of that goes to the reusable kit

815
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,480
that is used in lessons.

816
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,560
And finally, $1,000 is the cost to train

817
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,200
one instructor.

818
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,480
Um luckily, they don't have to go

819
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,400
anywhere to be trained. After COVID,

820
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,840
they made this a fully online program or

821
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,720
online online training with the only

822
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,840
exception being that the final module is

823
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,200
live.

824
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,200
It takes an officer 30 hours to complete

825
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,120
the training, and if it is taught by the

826
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,800
same officer every year, then they are

827
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,200
automatically recertified. If they miss

828
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,400
a year of training, they have to get

829
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,070
recertified.

830
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,200
So, the ongoing cost or yearly cost is

831
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,120
the annual $500

832
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,320
license plus supplies, which are not

833
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,840
required, but they are strongly

834
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,520
recommended. So, these are things like

835
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,320
incentives for the kids such as awards,

836
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,480
graduation treats, um t-shirts,

837
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,240
stickers. Now, for Santaquin Elementary,

838
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,040
I have a safety budget that could pay

839
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,760
for those

840
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,640
rewards um or incentives. Uh we've

841
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,480
estimated that to be roughly $100 to

842
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,640
$150 a year.

843
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,360
Each lesson is 1 hour, and there are 13

844
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,160
lessons per class.

845
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,840
So, this is a program for fifth graders

846
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,040
only. At Santaquin Elementary, we have

847
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,480
three fifth grade classes.

848
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,000
It would be roughly an officer being

849
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,320
there for 3 hours, or if we can't swing

850
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:48,720
that, we could try to house them

851
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,560
together and do it all together, but

852
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,200
that is a lot of

853
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,120
fifth graders for one officer.

854
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,920
Uh for anyone really. I've been around

855
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,240
them. It's a lot for

856
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:58,640
one person.

857
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,640
Um

858
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,680
you have to factor in graduation and

859
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,880
prep time. And so, this is something

860
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,760
that would only be worth it if we commit

861
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,960
to it long-term. It would be a waste of

862
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,000
money to do it for 1 or 2 years and then

863
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,960
discontinue. Uh the biggest

864
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,520
consideration here is ensuring that the

865
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,520
police department can consistently run

866
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:17,920
this program.

867
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,280
If a certified officer transfers, only

868
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,120
the training portion, that $1,000 need

869
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,760
reinvestment, which protects 66% of the

870
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,120
program's initial value.

871
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,320
So,

872
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,440
we are looking for a budget for this

873
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,360
prevention and education program. And if

874
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,120
we don't have it, is there a way that we

875
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,440
can create a budget to make this happen

876
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,910
for the upcoming school year?

877
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,022
Um

878
00:32:45,022 --> 00:32:45,400
>> [clears throat]

879
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,920
>> Also, I want to go back because there

880
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,160
were some things I was looking into. I

881
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,920
don't know a lot about them, but the

882
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,800
Utah STEM Action Center often provides

883
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,720
community impact sponsorships for

884
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,320
organizations for learning opportunities

885
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,280
outside standard curriculum. I was told

886
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,080
that some police departments in Utah

887
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,480
applied for a JAG formula grant to cover

888
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,520
the recurring costs of instructions and

889
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,200
materials.

890
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:11,880
Um

891
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,560
I'm not saying it has to come directly

892
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,160
from the city budget, but I think there

893
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,040
are avenues that could be taken to find

894
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,310
the money for this.

895
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,680
So,

896
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,440
ultimately

897
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,520
the program will require a real

898
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,040
commitment from Santaquin City and from

899
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,560
the Santaquin Police Department. Right

900
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,720
now, our community is falling short when

901
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,880
it comes to meaningful officer student

902
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,480
engagement. Our officers work very hard

903
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,560
and I deeply respect them, but our

904
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,640
schools are not receiving the consistent

905
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,120
presence or support that our kids need.

906
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,920
We have no school resource officers at

907
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,720
our elementary schools. We have no

908
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,520
regular interaction with municipal

909
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,480
authorities aside from if an incident

910
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,880
occurs at the schools, and that impact

911
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,280
shows in our youth arrest rates.

912
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:58,680
Um

913
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,840
So,

914
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,600
a structured prevention program would

915
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,640
finally give our schools the consistent

916
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,320
police presence our students deserve.

917
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,120
Even something as simple as a patrol car

918
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,720
parked in the school lot has been shown

919
00:34:10,720 --> 00:34:13,360
to deter negative behavior. And so, we

920
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:14,840
want to do everything we can to make

921
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,919
this happen, but without a formal

922
00:34:16,919 --> 00:34:19,200
commitment, our kids will continue to

923
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,960
miss out on the positive relationships

924
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,080
that keep them safe, confident, and

925
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,360
connected. And our arrest rates for our

926
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,360
youth will not improve.

927
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,320
So, just to show you the benefits of

928
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,720
using this as an ongoing investment.

929
00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:34,760
We'll have student engagement, building

930
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,399
that trust between uh the local youth

931
00:34:37,399 --> 00:34:39,000
and the law enforcement from an early

932
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,879
age. We will have a community impact by

933
00:34:41,879 --> 00:34:43,480
lowering the disproportionate juvenile

934
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,800
arrest rates. And then we will be

935
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,320
equipping our students and our our kids

936
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,760
with practical life skills and safety

937
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:55,990
knowledge.

938
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,760
So, to conclude, I just want to end with

939
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,920
some of my favorite quotes.

940
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:00,640
Um [clears throat]

941
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,840
as Franklin Delano Roosevelt said, we

942
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,560
cannot always build the future for our

943
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,600
youth, but we can build our youth for

944
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,280
the future. And I think that with these

945
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,120
changes implemented in Santaquin, we

946
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,670
would be doing exactly that.

947
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:15,120
» Okay.

948
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,960
>> Thank you for allowing me to come

949
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,480
present this.

950
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:19,000
>> Thank you.

951
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,920
>> Do you have any questions or concerns?

952
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,240
>> I have a question. So, how many total

953
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:29,560
officer hours a year is this?

954
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,880
>> So, it depends on how we implement it.

955
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,120
>> But if it if it was like it was like how

956
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,440
you said like

957
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,000
not combining the classes.

958
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,640
>> So, if not combining the classes, it

959
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:44,360
would be 13 weeks with an hour per

960
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,480
class, which is three classes. So, 3 *

961
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,480
13, and then we need to

962
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,320
add in some prep time and probably a

963
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,600
graduation day.

964
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,360
Or I mean, the PTAs really could handle

965
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,800
the graduation, but I'm sure they would

966
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,360
love to see that officer that taught

967
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,360
them the program give them their

968
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,720
certificates.

969
00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:06,760
>> Do you do you put that over a whole

970
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:07,280
year?

971
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:07,760
>> Yes.

972
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:08,960
>> September through

973
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,520
>> Yep, September through May would be over

974
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,120
those 13 weeks.

975
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,920
>> Can I give you some input there?

976
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,520
>> I think you've done this before.

977
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,680
>> I've done this for many years.

978
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,880
So, the NOVO program

979
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,480
actually works better if you do it once

980
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,000
a week.

981
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,920
Uh if you do it right, you can cut it

982
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,160
down to about 10 lessons. You can do the

983
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,000
graduation during class. The teachers

984
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,600
like it more that way because

985
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,200
there's some tips and tricks that you

986
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,600
can cut down your time and still

987
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,720
maintain that level of

988
00:36:39,720 --> 00:36:42,200
the impact that you're looking for.

989
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,320
A lot of officers, when I did it, I did

990
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,960
all that prep time while I was on duty.

991
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:50,120
And a lot of times that I taught this class while I

992
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,640
was on duty, so it didn't require

993
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:52,880
overtime.

994
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,280
That'd be something that they'd have to

995
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,520
work their schedules through.

996
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,640
The whole idea of the NO

997
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,360
principles program, as what it's called,

998
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,720
is it teaches nine principles. And it's

999
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:04,800
The idea is to teach kids how to think,

1000
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,680
not what to think.

1001
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:07,880
And

1002
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,600
I swear by it.

1003
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,960
I think it I think that it's totally

1004
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,280
worth the investment.

1005
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:18,080
Uh, I was disappointed that my kids didn't

1006
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,960
have this going to Santaquin, to the

1007
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,920
point that I took my kids with me to

1008
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,920
Payson to teach my own kids this class.

1009
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,520
I'd love to see this in Santaquin. Even

1010
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:28,840
though my kids don't go to school here

1011
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,120
anymore, they've all aged out.

1012
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,480
And I think, Mayor, I have an idea if we

1013
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,080
could meet later that

1014
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:36,400
I think there's a way that we could find

1015
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:37,520
some money for this.

1016
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:38,440
>> Well, there's

1017
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,240
The thing that I have going through my

1018
00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:42,240
head is we have [clears throat] three

1019
00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:45,720
schools. In fact, we have four schools.

1020
00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:48,120
And, uh,

1021
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,000
is it that you want to focus on one, or

1022
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,360
do you want to make sure that you do

1023
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,440
them all? And what's the cost overall?

1024
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:54,560
And

1025
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,360
>> So, we're asking that Santaquin

1026
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,160
Elementary be the pilot program uh, for

1027
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:00,880
this school year.

1028
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,800
And then hopefully that it can be

1029
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,040
rewritten into the budget every year to

1030
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,720
increase to the rest of Santaquin.

1031
00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:10,200
>> Okay, so there's there's a budget

1032
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,240
implication of only the $3,000

1033
00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:16,680
up front, but there's also the time and

1034
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,800
the scheduling impact that we need to

1035
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:19,920
figure out, too.

1036
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,040
>> So, So program is what I showed the

1037
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,360
budget for, which is simply the program.

1038
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,080
The officers and their pay were not

1039
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,360
included in that because I am not super

1040
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,320
privy to that and

1041
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,520
>> they still have to be paid for the work

1042
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:34,240
they do.

1043
00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:37,000
>> And yeah, so it is a budget

1044
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:37,160
>> Right.

1045
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:37,960
>> that we need to

1046
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:38,760
>> Mhm.

1047
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,480
>> and have it worked on. So

1048
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,240
>> And and I understand that you guys were

1049
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:46,240
talking about budget prior to this and

1050
00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:48,200
money is always an issue.

1051
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:48,320
>> Okay.

1052
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,760
>> I also know that as the PTA safety

1053
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,920
officer, I have tried to set up officer

1054
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,160
interactions at

1055
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,440
for the last 4 years.

1056
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,400
I have watched kids shrink away and cry

1057
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,360
and run out of the room when a police

1058
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,280
officer approaches them because they are

1059
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,120
so terrified.

1060
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,400
Even when the officers are doing

1061
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,480
all of the right things, getting on eye

1062
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,560
level, speaking softly, trying to show

1063
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,200
them they're a friend.

1064
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,720
But kids who are fourth and fifth grade

1065
00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:20,720
and have had no interaction with police

1066
00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:23,600
prior to this are already at the point

1067
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,200
where they're scared and they view

1068
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,000
police officers as the enemy.

1069
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,800
Getting officers in our schools early

1070
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,960
will stop not stop this, but it will be

1071
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,400
an avenue to have better interactions

1072
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,440
with them.

1073
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:38,840
They come to our school. We'll pay for

1074
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,840
them to have lunch with the kids. You

1075
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,200
know, [clears throat] we'll we'll do

1076
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,640
whatever we can. We invite the officers

1077
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,560
every year to come to recesses, to come

1078
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:48,840
to lunch.

1079
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,480
And due to their scheduling, it's hard

1080
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:52,920
to get them there.

1081
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,240
When they come, it's hugely impactful on

1082
00:39:56,240 --> 00:39:58,120
our students.

1083
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,200
We would love to see a formal commitment

1084
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,040
to them coming

1085
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,440
so that we can make it happen

1086
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,880
continuously throughout the year and not

1087
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,240
just once a week during safety week when

1088
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:11,120
I'm asking and requesting them to come.

1089
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,800
>> I would like to throw my two cents worth

1090
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,720
in as a an educator and a former a in

1091
00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:18,560
Nebo School District. Um I fought really

1092
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,720
hard to have a full-time officer in my

1093
00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:23,440
school at Landmark High School.

1094
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,720
And I finally got it and

1095
00:40:25,720 --> 00:40:28,200
made a world of difference. Um if we can

1096
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,200
pull this off and I know it's

1097
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:31,880
uh Chief First is going to have to have

1098
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,480
say on this and how it's going to work,

1099
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,720
but if we can make this happen,

1100
00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:38,000
so worth it for our children. We we need

1101
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,480
to figure out a way to get the officers

1102
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,680
in more. It just works. It does.

1103
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,440
>> Well, and this is so much more than just

1104
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,360
getting an officer in a class. I don't

1105
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,640
Nobody knows this, but when

1106
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,520
they graduated the uh

1107
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,360
the student academy that they did, there

1108
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:53,880
was a young man in here that was in my

1109
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,600
NOVA class when he was in sixth grade.

1110
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,160
And he graduated from high school last

1111
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,520
year and we had a great relationship all

1112
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,120
through the his years in high school and

1113
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,200
it was because of the NOVA program. This

1114
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,920
is about building relationships.

1115
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:06,560
>> Yeah.

1116
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,480
>> With kids and they they do see officers

1117
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:09,800
in a different light and they remember

1118
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,640
their NOVA instructors.

1119
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,280
And I I think it's a worthwhile and it's

1120
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,240
worth us figuring this out.

1121
00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:19,070
>> Agreed.

1122
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,680
» This is certainly one of those things

1123
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,600
that we haven't talked about and uh

1124
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,320
yeah, one of those things that it sounds

1125
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,000
like we need to make some decision on.

1126
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,200
Um I know we're not ready to do it

1127
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,480
tonight and we've only got 2 months

1128
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,560
before school starts.

1129
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,640
And uh

1130
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,600
13 weeks doesn't take all of that and it

1131
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,920
may be a week later or something like

1132
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,240
that depending on the time,

1133
00:41:45,240 --> 00:41:49,080
but uh I would suggest that we make this

1134
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,320
a a topic

1135
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,760
with some more information that we have

1136
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,960
over the next

1137
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,760
year or the next

1138
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,440
uh month so that

1139
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,640
in the first meeting in

1140
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,400
July,

1141
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,960
we should be able to look at it and and

1142
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,880
a couple of other things and maybe have

1143
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,960
a pathway to

1144
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,880
how can we pay for this

1145
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,520
and make it work, you know?

1146
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,840
The kids are our community. Everything

1147
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,960
we do, we should be doing for the safety

1148
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,160
and the well-being of the kids.

1149
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,830
And um

1150
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,800
I think if if you guys, especially where

1151
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,120
you've worked in education,

1152
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,000
I don't [clears throat] know if you ever

1153
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,400
graduated in this

1154
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,480
and in law enforcement and I know you're

1155
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,400
retired, so

1156
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,640
but you guys have a good outlook on this

1157
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,000
with Chief here tonight

1158
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,280
knowing

1159
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,760
maybe what we need to look at and maybe

1160
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,680
even coming up with a plan. How could we

1161
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,920
make something like this work? In the

1162
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,520
meantime, we'll have a couple of work

1163
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,720
sessions and then hopefully have

1164
00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:56,320
something that we can present in the

1165
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,360
next couple of weeks.

1166
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,720
3 weeks maybe before the first meeting

1167
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:05,200
in July. So

1168
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,640
would that work?

1169
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,840
>> Yes, and I'm available for any questions

1170
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,840
or issues. Andrea

1171
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,640
knows all the things about the school as

1172
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,880
well. Um we are very dedicated in

1173
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,760
wanting this to happen.

1174
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,040
Um this and, you know, the crosswalks

1175
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,760
and the stop signs and and whatnot. So

1176
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,640
>> We just don't want to paint paint

1177
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,640
gravel. We we'll have to figure that out

1178
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,520
so it's a little more permanent.

1179
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:32,920
>> Yeah.

1180
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,720
>> Okay. Yes, but yes, whatever you guys

1181
00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:37,360
need on my end

1182
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,360
um and the school, we Ms. Rimmel was

1183
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:41,800
very much

1184
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,400
um an advocate for this as well. So

1185
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,320
>> Melanie, can you can you send your

1186
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,720
slides to Norm so that we could have a

1187
00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:50,320
copy to be able to

1188
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,520
you know, go by there and and you know,

1189
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,040
navigate it if that's helpful. That

1190
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:54,840
would be helpful.

1191
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,240
>> Yep, no problem.

1192
00:43:56,240 --> 00:43:57,040
Um

1193
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,400
I'll need your email address.

1194
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,280
>> Okay.

1195
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,560
Thank you. Thank you for being here

1196
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:04,320
tonight.

1197
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,200
>> for listening.

1198
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:15,790
>> All right. Uh building permits.

1199
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:16,560
» Yeah, Mayor [clears throat] and Council,

1200
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,120
I just noticed you bringing that up.

1201
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,520
I'll I guess I'll just verbally tell

1202
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,880
you. Uh right now for the calendar year,

1203
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,720
we're currently at 150 new residential

1204
00:44:25,720 --> 00:44:27,800
dwelling units made up of 73 single

1205
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,160
family and 77 multi-family.

1206
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:31,920
At this time last calendar year, we were

1207
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,200
157, so

1208
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,560
right around the same. Uh

1209
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,325
kind of on the same pace.

1210
00:44:38,325 --> 00:44:38,520
>> [clears throat]

1211
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,680
>> Fiscal year wise, we're a little bit

1212
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,000
behind where we were. We're about to

1213
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,520
wrap up the fiscal year. We've only got

1214
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,600
half a month left. Uh we're currently at

1215
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,400
222

1216
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,880
made up of 117 single family, 105

1217
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,280
multi-family. Uh this time last fiscal

1218
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,080
year, we were up to 277, so uh

1219
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,000
but you can see previous years that

1220
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,960
we're kind of in the mid 200s anyway, so

1221
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,640
not not a not too far off of where where

1222
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,200
the average is.

1223
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:07,600
New business licenses, you can see the

1224
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,000
list there. Uh there's one new

1225
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,120
commercial that is a kind of a food

1226
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,200
truck uh for shakes and Iceberg. It's

1227
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,040
our understanding that that that food

1228
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,400
truck will be mostly up in Salt Lake

1229
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,800
County, but the the kind of

1230
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,160
um

1231
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:23,360
I don't know.

1232
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,400
The

1233
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,120
uh headquarters, if you will, or or kind

1234
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,560
of the where it's stationed is going to be

1235
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,240
out of Santaquin. And then there's the

1236
00:45:33,240 --> 00:45:35,920
four home occupations, so I can answer

1237
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,240
any questions you have about those

1238
00:45:37,240 --> 00:45:38,120
business licenses.

1239
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:42,150
>> first address?

1240
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,240
» Oh, looks like it looks like maybe a

1241
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:46,760
phone number got added into the address.

1242
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,240
That's basically the It should be the

1243
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:51,760
average address of the uh the the

1244
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:56,670
Iceberg that we have here. Yep.

1245
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,520
» Okay.

1246
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,640
Um

1247
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,440
that takes care of that.

1248
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,400
Resolution ordinance and discussion

1249
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,640
possible action on

1250
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,640
um

1251
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,240
the municipal wastewater planning

1252
00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:16,590
program survey. [clears throat]

1253
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,800
» Now, Mayor and Council, this is

1254
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,200
yearly municipal wastewater planning

1255
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,640
program report that we have to do.

1256
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,240
Uh Jason Callaway, our public works

1257
00:46:25,240 --> 00:46:26,440
director, has filled that out and

1258
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,400
submitted it to the state, and this is a

1259
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,560
resolution just indicating that we're

1260
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,030
um

1261
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:35,960
informing the water quality board that

1262
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,440
this is our survey. So, happy to answer

1263
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,480
any questions, and we have

1264
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:42,760
public works director Callaway here,

1265
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,800
too, as well.

1266
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,000
>> As I was reading through this survey and

1267
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,320
this questionnaire, I was just happy

1268
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,960
that it was Jason that had to fill it

1269
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,840
out and it wasn't me.

1270
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,120
>> There's a lot of boxes there.

1271
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,360
>> A lot of yeses all the way. A couple of

1272
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:57,360
no's.

1273
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,040
>> But I But I did I did make a a couple of

1274
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,680
notes. Um there's around 77 mi of sewer

1275
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,920
pipe in our town.

1276
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,280
I I tried to figure out where from

1277
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,520
Santaquin was 77 mi. Lagoon is 80 mi.

1278
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,320
So, we have enough sewer pipe to go from

1279
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,120
here to Lagoon if it was all in one

1280
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:17,720
straight line.

1281
00:47:17,720 --> 00:47:21,040
Um that's that's pretty amazing.

1282
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,400
Fortunately, it doesn't all fail at the

1283
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,200
same time.

1284
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,400
And I guess we have about 5,500 and

1285
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:31,120
85 equivalent residential connections.

1286
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:32,080
So,

1287
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,440
it's a lot of connections. And as Jason

1288
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,797
told me today, a lot of manholes.

1289
00:47:37,797 --> 00:47:38,640
>> [clears throat]

1290
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:39,720
>> Thank you, Jason.

1291
00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:43,120
>> Literally all downhill uphill from here

1292
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,600
to Lagoon. So, maybe if we did that,

1293
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,160
we'd fill the Great Salt Lake.

1294
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,240
>> It's downhill from here to the

1295
00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:50,960
treatment plant.

1296
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,040
>> Yeah, there you go.

1297
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,240
Okay.

1298
00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:57,200
Any questions on that?

1299
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,320
I know you have to do that about every

1300
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,390
year, don't you?

1301
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,880
So, I would entertain a motion on that

1302
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,520
resolution.

1303
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,000
>> Mr. Mayor, I'll make a motion we approve

1304
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,600
resolution 0603-2026,

1305
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,040
municipal water wastewater planning

1306
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,120
program.

1307
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,880
>> Is there a second?

1308
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,160
>> I'll second.

1309
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:22,680
>> Moved and seconded. Brian?

1310
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:23,080
>> Aye.

1311
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:23,520
>> Art?

1312
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:24,000
>> Aye.

1313
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:24,680
>> Jeff?

1314
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:25,120
>> Aye.

1315
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:25,480
>> Lynn?

1316
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:26,040
>> Aye.

1317
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:26,560
>> Travis?

1318
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:27,680
>> Aye.

1319
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,000
>> Motion passed. Fee schedule update

1320
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,320
604.

1321
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,320
>> Yeah, Mayor and Council, this is the

1322
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:39,320
annual, again, fee schedule update.

1323
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,280
Um there's quite a bit in here. One

1324
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:43,200
the

1325
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,560
main impetus of this is to just update

1326
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,200
our fee schedule for anything from

1327
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,600
street lights to signs to our annual

1328
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,000
cost of living adjustment to our

1329
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,480
utilities

1330
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,120
and other items that are in here. I'm

1331
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:56,480
happy to answer any questions that you

1332
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:57,840
have on it,

1333
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:03,110
but it's fairly straightforward.

1334
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:07,150
» Are there any?

1335
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,800
Okay, then I would entertain a motion on

1336
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:15,190
the fee schedule.

1337
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:16,760
» Mr. Mayor, I'll make a motion we approve

1338
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,560
resolution 0604-2026,

1339
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,640
resolution establishing the fee schedule

1340
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,880
for Santaquin City.

1341
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,560
>> A motion, is there a second?

1342
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:29,680
>> I'll second.

1343
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,880
>> Moved and seconded. Travis?

1344
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:32,520
>> Aye.

1345
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:33,000
>> Lynn?

1346
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:33,480
>> Aye.

1347
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:34,000
>> Jeff?

1348
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:34,320
>> Aye.

1349
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:34,720
>> Art?

1350
00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:35,160
>> Aye.

1351
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:35,640
>> Brian?

1352
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:36,760
>> Aye.

1353
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,960
>> Motion passed. Let's go to 605, the

1354
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,520
certified tax rate.

1355
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,360
>> Yeah, Mayor and Council, as indicated in

1356
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,520
the in the resolution, this is a

1357
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,800
resolution to adopt

1358
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,960
a certified tax rate as set forth by the

1359
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,040
state tax commission.

1360
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:57,760
The combined tax rate, should this be

1361
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,360
adopted, would be .00

1362
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,280
1399.

1363
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:07,670
And

1364
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,080
the form that is provided by the state

1365
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,360
is behind that. Let me pull that up so

1366
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:13,640
you can see that as well. This is the

1367
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,200
actual official

1368
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,320
a form but from the state.

1369
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,440
This would adopt a uh

1370
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,640
the certified tax rate and would

1371
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,640
therefore put it towards the budget and

1372
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,440
should this be adopted tonight, the the

1373
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,520
uh truth in taxation

1374
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,320
for a potential property tax increase

1375
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,320
would be um

1376
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,560
no more and we move forward with a

1377
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,080
should the final budget be adopted and

1378
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:39,920
this be adopted tonight. Happy to answer

1379
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,200
any questions that you have about that.

1380
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:47,870
>> I did I did want to say um

1381
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:52,160
When we have to meet as a council

1382
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,960
in March and after February we've gone

1383
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:57,040
through

1384
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,920
tax preparation

1385
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,280
in order to look at what we have for

1386
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,880
revenues for the budget, which has to be

1387
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,120
pa- passed in

1388
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,680
April and then again in May and then

1389
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,480
again in the 1st of June and now one

1390
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:12,840
more time

1391
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:13,880
um

1392
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,040
we have to go through new laws that have

1393
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,720
been passed, which is called the truth

1394
00:51:18,720 --> 00:51:20,440
in taxation.

1395
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,920
In order to get to those

1396
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,800
you either have to make some kind of an

1397
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,880
estimation of where you'll be

1398
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,480
when when the whole thing comes about or

1399
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,680
where this number lies. And so we try to

1400
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,840
outguess that number and say, "Well,

1401
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,440
according to

1402
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:39,120
uh

1403
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,280
cost of living, everything else

1404
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:46,360
in order for us to to hit where we stand

1405
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,480
what are we going to have to do? So, you

1406
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,320
enter in the first week of March, truth

1407
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,080
and taxation.

1408
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,520
Which is set up because we have to look

1409
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,840
at what this mill levy is going to do

1410
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,520
and you're trying to outguess

1411
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,440
the state and

1412
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,120
uh everyone else

1413
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:10,040
well in advance of this time of year.

1414
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,040
Now, the real trick is we don't get this

1415
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,800
number until last Thursday night at

1416
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:16,840
4:00.

1417
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:17,640
>> Yeah.

1418
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,800
>> And we have to make a decision so that

1419
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,480
we can publish it and say, "Well, is

1420
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,480
everything that we looked at in

1421
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,320
accordance with

1422
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:31,000
how our budget laid out and where our

1423
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,600
expected revenues from this will be and

1424
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,760
if we're actually utilizing

1425
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,320
the amount of money that will come

1426
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,360
through that mill levy that's assessed.

1427
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,200
When when the

1428
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:50,910
bottom line came out that it was .0001.

1429
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,640
Uh what did that end up being? Like 33

1430
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,280
cents a month

1431
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,320
difference for the tax bill?

1432
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,280
>> I think it's about 16 cents.

1433
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:01,720
>> Yeah.

1434
00:53:01,720 --> 00:53:02,600
>> A month difference.

1435
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,400
>> Yeah. 16 cents.

1436
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,720
>> On the average home per month.

1437
00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:08,080
>> So,

1438
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,000
you know what? There's a lot of work to

1439
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,960
go through to come up with that even

1440
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:13,640
though it ends up

1441
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,781
um

1442
00:53:15,781 --> 00:53:16,680
>> [cough and clears throat]

1443
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,040
>> Excuse me.

1444
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,440
Being 16,000, I think in the long run we

1445
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,800
look at the pros and cons of it. Are we

1446
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,040
looking after the money? I think we're

1447
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,000
being wise.

1448
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,440
Would we be asking for more if we stuck

1449
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,800
with the number that we had proposed

1450
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:38,760
because we had to look at the way the revenue was expected and everything

1451
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,800
else. I I believe we've we're looking at

1452
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,560
the right decision here. So,

1453
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,200
um

1454
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,120
in the end, it's a small amount of

1455
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,160
change in that mill levy. I think we're

1456
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,640
good to move forward and

1457
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,680
we can get away from the truth in

1458
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:01,080
taxation and just accept it and go.

1459
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,040
So.

1460
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,000
>> Can I Can I add some comments? Sure.

1461
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,080
>> Um

1462
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:08,480
I mean

1463
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,360
everybody loves a lower tax. Um and so

1464
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,760
maybe this is like really unpopular.

1465
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:14,800
Um

1466
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,000
uh

1467
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,200
but

1468
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,720
I've stated in past budget meetings

1469
00:54:19,720 --> 00:54:21,280
I'm really a proponent of holding the

1470
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:22,280
rate

1471
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,960
steady. So, say for example, it's not

1472
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,120
5%, it's 0.00 something percent, right?

1473
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,120
If it's 5% and it automatically goes

1474
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,200
down to 4%,

1475
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,480
I like holding the rate steady to 5% for

1476
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,720
example, that's an example.

1477
00:54:37,720 --> 00:54:40,200
Um because that captures inflation. And

1478
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,920
I know that we're meeting our needs now,

1479
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:45,560
but what I worry about is that it's

1480
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,200
kicking the can down the road when there

1481
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:48,360
are

1482
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,440
expenses that will grow.

1483
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:51,480
Um

1484
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,000
Shannon has done an amazing job at

1485
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,120
finding so many savings uh

1486
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:57,600
opportunities.

1487
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,480
Um she's been amazing. When I've reached

1488
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,920
out to Shannon, always been responsive

1489
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,560
and crazy ideas that I have that

1490
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,840
probably are wild goose chases about can

1491
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,960
we save money on these fees? Can we save

1492
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,400
And so that's been really great, but

1493
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,320
eventually there's only so much saving

1494
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:13,960
you can do.

1495
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,320
Um

1496
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:16,880
and as our city grows and as there's

1497
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,800
additional expenses,

1498
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,640
um

1499
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,480
I I am a proponent of holding the tax

1500
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:24,840
rate steady,

1501
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,520
um which

1502
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,720
honestly is a tax increase because it

1503
00:55:28,720 --> 00:55:30,560
automatically is going to go down with

1504
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,520
the typical assessment. Um but I view it

1505
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,280
as holding it the same, not going down

1506
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:36,800
or not going up.

1507
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,880
But I I We talked about it as a council

1508
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,240
before, but I like the idea of that

1509
00:55:42,240 --> 00:55:45,680
because it doesn't result in a huge

1510
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,840
increase years later.

1511
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,640
Um and there's always things that I

1512
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,280
think we could set aside the money for.

1513
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:53,400
Um

1514
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,400
obviously I'm a conservative, so I'm

1515
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,640
hesitant about let's give more money to

1516
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,240
the government, we'll find millions of

1517
00:55:59,240 --> 00:56:00,800
ways to spend it. But, I think that

1518
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,960
there's a lot of valid ways that we can

1519
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,720
spend it. One of the issues that was

1520
00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:09,080
brought up was around employee benefits.

1521
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,960
And we cover the health care premium

1522
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,160
100% for our um employees that have the

1523
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,360
opportunity to opt into that. I think

1524
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,520
that's a great benefit.

1525
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,080
Um but, I don't think that it's

1526
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,440
sustainable. And if we're going to

1527
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,280
include those in, even though we were

1528
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,240
able to find so many savings this year,

1529
00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:30,160
which is amazing,

1530
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:31,800
I think that it's more sustainable to

1531
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,080
keep the tax rate steady, um

1532
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:35,560
in my opinion. I just wanted to voice

1533
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,200
that.

1534
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,680
>> Well, I I do want to say and I I was

1535
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,600
going to say this earlier and that is

1536
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:43,960
it all [clears throat] starts over again

1537
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,480
in February. And in March we make that

1538
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:50,160
decision one more time and you know

1539
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,000
I know it's a hit that we have to take

1540
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:54,240
because

1541
00:56:54,240 --> 00:56:57,160
the majority of the residents don't

1542
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,760
understand all that you have to go

1543
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,080
through

1544
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,240
in order to to

1545
00:57:03,240 --> 00:57:05,080
uh

1546
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,720
let the state know you're doing

1547
00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:08,800
everything right, but also let the

1548
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,000
residents know in the taxes that they

1549
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,320
pay that we are

1550
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,680
watching over all of those continually.

1551
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,880
To me it's .0001

1552
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,200
and um

1553
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,720
I just think, okay, well, it's a breath

1554
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,960
of air, but it's only

1555
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:28,840
16 cents.

1556
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:29,920
Okay.

1557
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,200
Well, next year it may be just a little

1558
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,640
bit more, but even at the very worst

1559
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,600
part we were only looking at

1560
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,960
price of a big gulp a month, you know.

1561
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,280
It may be a, you know,

1562
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,560
a little bit more the next time, but at

1563
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,840
least this time we can say, "Okay, we

1564
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,640
didn't have to do it." So,

1565
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,040
that's my feeling.

1566
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:55,160
Art?

1567
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,280
>> And in the resolution a third whereas

1568
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,000
says um acknowledging the fact that part

1569
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,120
of our communities in two counties and

1570
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,440
recognizes Utah County and Juab County.

1571
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,840
However, if you turn to the next page

1572
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:11,560
form PT 800, it only references Utah

1573
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,080
County at the top.

1574
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:14,680
>> Um yeah, they're all identical for both

1575
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,640
counties. The the rate the tax rate and

1576
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,400
everything will be identical and I

1577
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,080
apologize. I can pull that one up. I did

1578
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,760
not put it in the packet. Um let me let

1579
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,120
me pull that up really quick and I can

1580
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:24,600
show it here now.

1581
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,480
>> Just as long as as it's recognized and

1582
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:28,080
um

1583
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,000
>> It would be the same mill mill levy

1584
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,360
rate.

1585
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:32,600
Hang on just 1 second. I think it's

1586
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,400
around $1,000 total for

1587
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:36,920
and I apologize for not having that in

1588
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:41,510
there.

1589
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,880
» Issues we hope to resolve someday.

1590
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:45,560
>> Yes.

1591
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:46,800
>> Supposed to resolve it long ago.

1592
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:51,135
>> Yeah, that's what I thought.

1593
00:58:51,145 --> 00:58:52,240
» [clears throat]

1594
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:53,800
>> Long as it's been recognized on that's

1595
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:54,520
fine. Thank you.

1596
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,040
>> I do want to show it though so that we

1597
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,480
have it in the in the in the minutes.

1598
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:11,670
So, let me just pull it up really quick.

1599
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:49,150
Apologize for that error. Hang on.

1600
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:50,960
» So, if I pull that form over here,

1601
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,520
you'll be able to see that that is

1602
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,440
the same It's It's about $1,070 and it

1603
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,200
would be the same tax rate as in Utah

1604
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,480
County. So, I apologize for that. We'll

1605
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:06,590
have that to the minutes as well.

1606
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:06,920
» Okay.

1607
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:07,920
>> I appreciate it.

1608
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,880
>> Any other questions?

1609
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:11,480
>> No.

1610
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:12,800
>> We good?

1611
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,040
Then, I would entertain a motion on

1612
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:17,120
the

1613
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:21,190
0605.

1614
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,400
» I'll make a motion to approve resolution

1615
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,950
0605-2026.

1616
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:28,880
» Motion made by Brian.

1617
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:30,200
>> I'll second.

1618
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,960
>> Seconded by Jeff Travis.

1619
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:33,480
>> I.

1620
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:33,880
>> Then?

1621
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:34,760
>> I.

1622
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:35,400
>> Jeff?

1623
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:35,800
>> I.

1624
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:36,360
>> Art?

1625
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:36,760
>> I.

1626
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:37,320
>> Brian?

1627
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:38,840
>> I.

1628
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,400
>> Thank you. Now, we need to go into adopt

1629
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,440
the resolution for the final bud- budget

1630
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:48,190
0606.

1631
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,400
» So, mayor and council resolution 0606

1632
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:51,880
would be the adoption of a fiscal year

1633
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:53,480
budget based on two things that have

1634
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,040
already been approved. One is the the uh

1635
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,440
fee schedule update and the the one that

1636
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,520
we just passed was the uh certified tax

1637
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,600
rate. And the final budget has been

1638
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:04,360
presented. We spent quite a bit of time

1639
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,120
going over that in the in the work

1640
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,280
session. However, if anybody has any

1641
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,080
questions on those items that we talked

1642
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,040
about that are the changes from the

1643
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,680
tentative to the final, I I can answer

1644
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,560
Shannon can help answer those questions.

1645
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:19,880
>> Yeah, we went over over them in the

1646
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,880
preceding meeting. Is there anything

1647
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:29,710
else you want to go over?

1648
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:31,840
» Just if the council were to approve it,

1649
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:33,320
the motion would just need to include

1650
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:37,360
the three changes we talked about to the water,

1651
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,160
sewer, and the library fund.

1652
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:41,320
>> Li- library, right? Not

1653
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,880
>> No, it's it's the

1654
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:45,000
>> It's the li- library.

1655
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:45,840
>> Oh, it's the library. Yes, right.

1656
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:47,440
>> Library wages, yeah. Library wages.

1657
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,280
>> So, water, sewer, and the library fund.

1658
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:51,840
>> Those were the green cells. We can pull

1659
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,040
them back up again if you want to see

1660
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:54,480
them, but those were the three items.

1661
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:55,360
>> Three written there.

1662
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:59,880
>> Yeah, those are just changes from the um final budget that was sent out to

1663
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:01,520
you that need to be changed before we

1664
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:06,150
submit it to the state.

1665
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:07,647
» So, this is

1666
01:02:07,647 --> 01:02:07,920
>> [clears throat]

1667
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:09,880
>> the budget for

1668
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,480
next year.

1669
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,400
Uh are there any questions or

1670
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,400
anything you want to add? We went

1671
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:18,880
through it

1672
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,120
in some detail in the previous meeting,

1673
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:26,160
so it's gone through video, too.

1674
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:29,040
Then, uh I would entertain a motion on

1675
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,950
resolution 0606.

1676
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:34,280
» Mr. Mayor, I'll make a motion that we

1677
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:39,070
approve resolution 0606-2026

1678
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:40,880
with the three changes to the water,

1679
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:44,400
sewer, and library.

1680
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,320
>> I'll second that motion.

1681
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,120
>> Moved and seconded. Travis?

1682
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:49,560
>> Aye.

1683
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:50,040
>> Lan?

1684
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:50,720
>> Aye.

1685
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:51,200
>> Jeff?

1686
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:52,120
>> Aye.

1687
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:52,640
>> Art?

1688
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:53,000
>> Aye.

1689
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:53,520
>> Ryan?

1690
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,280
>> Aye.

1691
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,960
>> Motion passed. Now, we need to look at

1692
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:03,470
0607, the URS service agreement.

1693
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:04,960
» So, again, discussed this in the work

1694
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,520
session. This is the the URS service

1695
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:11,720
agreement that allows for Roth 457 and

1696
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,320
401ks

1697
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,400
for all um

1698
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,480
URS salary

1699
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:19,840
employees of the city.

1700
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,160
>> Just just to identify so people are

1701
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,520
listening to this, URS stands for the

1702
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:27,120
Utah Retirement System.

1703
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:28,880
>> Correct. Utah Retirement System. This is

1704
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,800
the the

1705
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,800
um, retirement system that Utah has set

1706
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:39,110
up for public employees.

1707
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,480
» So, we went through those issues. Are

1708
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,720
there any any items you want to bring

1709
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,310
up?

1710
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:47,880
Okay.

1711
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,640
>> Um, I I have I have one question and I

1712
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:52,640
think it kind of ties to

1713
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:54,640
and Shannon, I think this question is

1714
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,800
for you that I wrote down.

1715
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,840
We talked about in the last meeting,

1716
01:03:58,840 --> 01:03:59,840
um,

1717
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:01,360
that there are like some liabilities

1718
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:03,720
that now are becoming expenses from

1719
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,480
employees opting in to benefits.

1720
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,360
Um, this is kind of

1721
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,120
I don't know if it deals with the URS.

1722
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:12,400
>> No.

1723
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,080
>> Uh, no. URS, what the city pays is

1724
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:16,320
required by the state.

1725
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:17,680
>> Okay. So,

1726
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,560
are we setting aside money for

1727
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:22,280
like how are we accounting? Do you have

1728
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,840
a number of like, this is how much could

1729
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:26,960
be called for us to pay if every

1730
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,720
employee exercised their right to enroll

1731
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:31,080
in benefits?

1732
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,000
>> Um,

1733
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,600
everybody that is

1734
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:35,320
>> That's eligible.

1735
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,160
>> Yes. So,

1736
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:38,840
um, we don't have an accounting. We we

1737
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,960
currently have, um, I would say six or

1738
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:43,520
seven employees that are waiving the

1739
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:44,400
benefits.

1740
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:44,680
>> Okay.

1741
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:46,200
>> Um, but no, we don't have like a set

1742
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,200
aside funding, uh, from year to year

1743
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,640
that if they pick up the benefits, then

1744
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,840
we pull from that fund.

1745
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:54,360
>> Okay.

1746
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,240
I was this made me think of it and I

1747
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:57,520
meant to ask it during the other one,

1748
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,480
but I was just concerned of like, ah,

1749
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,920
what if everybody decides that and then

1750
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:03,760
we have to make unexpected cuts

1751
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,000
elsewhere or some I don't know. So,

1752
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:08,520
okay.

1753
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:10,720
>> Yeah. We um, fortunately we don't have a

1754
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:12,360
ton of employees that waive it, but we

1755
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,200
do save a ton of money when they do

1756
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:14,680
waive it.

1757
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:15,120
>> Yeah.

1758
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:15,560
>> So.

1759
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:17,120
>> It's just it's not always guaranteed if

1760
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:17,360
they

1761
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:18,000
>> Right, exactly.

1762
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:18,880
>> That's the That's the thing.

1763
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:20,720
>> And they may even have life changes that

1764
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:22,760
>> Can they enroll whenever they want or is

1765
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:22,880
there

1766
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,400
>> Um we have open enrollment and that is

1767
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:26,240
>> without a life.

1768
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:27,680
change, yeah. If they

1769
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:29,120
have a life change and they lose

1770
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:30,280
coverage their coverage they're

1771
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:31,840
currently have, then yes, they can

1772
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:32,800
enroll at that time.

1773
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,160
>> Or if they leave and someone replaces

1774
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:36,760
them and that one wants to be in it, do

1775
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:37,120
they have

1776
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:37,480
>> Yes.

1777
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:38,200
>> Right, and just make that happen.

1778
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,520
>> Yep. Yep.

1779
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:41,520
So

1780
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:42,880
this this particular item doesn't have

1781
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:43,920
anything to do with the health insurance

1782
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:45,360
benefits. That's health insurance. This

1783
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,360
is This is state retirement, so it's

1784
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,200
totally different and it's we pay what's

1785
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,840
mandated by state by state law.

1786
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:53,760
>> And if employees there's a percentage,

1787
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:54,480
isn't it?

1788
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,240
>> It's a percentage for each fund. Yes, it

1789
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:58,680
and it's different for each fund. You

1790
01:05:58,680 --> 01:05:59,920
have public safety fund, you have a

1791
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:01,240
firefighter fund, and you have public

1792
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:02,360
employee funds.

1793
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:06,670
>> Okay.

1794
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:09,160
» Any other questions?

1795
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:11,400
Then I would entertain a motion on

1796
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:14,880
resolution 06-07.

1797
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,120
>> I'd make a motion to adopt resolution

1798
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:20,920
06-07 2026, a resolution authorizing

1799
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:22,560
Santaquin City signing a new service

1800
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:24,080
agreement with the Utah State Retirement

1801
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:27,200
System URS.

1802
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:28,520
>> I'll second that motion.

1803
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:31,360
>> I had a motion and a second in.

1804
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:32,800
Um Travis.

1805
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:34,720
>> Aye.

1806
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:35,200
>> Lynn.

1807
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:36,080
>> Aye.

1808
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:36,600
>> Jeff.

1809
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:37,240
>> Aye.

1810
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:37,800
>> Art.

1811
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:38,360
>> Aye.

1812
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:39,040
>> Ryan.

1813
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:40,000
>> Aye.

1814
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:43,400
>> Motion passed and uh

1815
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,440
that moves us on to 608.

1816
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:50,320
The URS employer election pickup.

1817
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,120
>> Yeah, so as as Shannon indicated

1818
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,040
previously, this is the the public

1819
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:56,080
safety tier two

1820
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:57,200
um

1821
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:00,000
firefighter and police contributions.

1822
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,000
This is a pickup going from 4.73% to

1823
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:04,760
5.98%.

1824
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,080
It is budgeted and and

1825
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:08,360
um

1826
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:09,880
happy to answer any questions that you

1827
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,120
have about that.

1828
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,080
>> I I did have a question.

1829
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:14,960
It

1830
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,400
What is the match required for that?

1831
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,760
Could they are they opting out of the

1832
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:23,280
URS to then do the 401K

1833
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,120
whether it's Roth or or or those other

1834
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,640
solutions or can they do both and are we

1835
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:30,600
required to pay for the pension and a

1836
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,440
contribution to the 401K or what that

1837
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:34,440
other alternative?

1838
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,840
>> So, there are there are two options for

1839
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,520
tier two um both in public safety and

1840
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:40,720
public

1841
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:42,080
employee.

1842
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:42,720
Um

1843
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,400
one's called the hybrid and one's called

1844
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:48,840
the the savings plan or the 401K.

1845
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:50,840
An employee that's in tier two which is

1846
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:52,200
anybody that was hired after a certain

1847
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,880
date that the legislation changed um

1848
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:56,840
they have a year to decide which plan

1849
01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:02,000
they want to be in. Um but yes, there are percentages for each of those.

1850
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,160
In the defined benefit, the amount that

1851
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,480
the city pays in doesn't cover the total

1852
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,520
cost and so they're asking the employee

1853
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,920
to pay part of their retirement. And

1854
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:12,760
that's where we have the option by state

1855
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:14,960
law to pick up that amount.

1856
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,000
Um and and we can only pick that up for

1857
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:18,839
public safety. They did the same thing a

1858
01:08:18,839 --> 01:08:20,440
couple years ago for public employee. We

1859
01:08:20,440 --> 01:08:22,359
don't pick that up but we have picked it

1860
01:08:22,359 --> 01:08:24,120
up for public safety.

1861
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:25,040
>> Okay.

1862
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:26,200
So,

1863
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:29,080
their portion is the 5.98%. What's the

1864
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,200
employer portion? Is it the same?

1865
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,640
>> Um no, it is I would have to go get

1866
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:34,880
>> it changes every year.

1867
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:35,400
>> year.

1868
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:36,640
>> Yeah, seems like this does, too.

1869
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,759
>> Yeah.

1870
01:08:38,759 --> 01:08:39,920
>> Well, is it higher or lower? I'm just

1871
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:40,640
curious. It doesn't

1872
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:42,759
>> It's a lot higher. So, a total across

1873
01:08:42,759 --> 01:08:44,440
the board is about 30%.

1874
01:08:44,440 --> 01:08:45,400
>> Oh, wow.

1875
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:46,920
>> So, they're asking the employee to pay

1876
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:50,359
5.98% of the amount that goes in to

1877
01:08:50,359 --> 01:08:51,000
their retirement.

1878
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:52,960
>> that for them and putting it in so they

1879
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:54,240
can keep that in their own paycheck.

1880
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:56,440
>> Yeah, so what we did um a couple years

1881
01:08:56,440 --> 01:08:57,960
ago Well, how long has it been that

1882
01:08:57,960 --> 01:08:59,680
we've done the parity? 10 years ago?

1883
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:00,920
>> 10 or 12 years ago.

1884
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,960
>> So, when this first changed, um

1885
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:06,279
the council at the time decided that

1886
01:09:06,279 --> 01:09:08,880
they wanted to keep the tier one equal

1887
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,240
tier to the tier two. And so, whatever

1888
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,520
that amount is, um the difference

1889
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,200
between the two, we have put into what's

1890
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:18,200
called a parity. It started out at about

1891
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:21,640
5% um that we would pay into a tier one

1892
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:24,960
from a into a tier two's just a a 401K

1893
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,839
to make them equal to a tier one. This

1894
01:09:27,839 --> 01:09:30,720
change to the 4.73 to the 5.98 would

1895
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,400
just reduce that parity. So, we're not

1896
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:34,600
paying any more than we would have. It's

1897
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:36,960
just reducing that parity amount.

1898
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:38,947
>> Okay.

1899
01:09:38,947 --> 01:09:39,600
>> [snorts]

1900
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:40,640
>> So, [clears throat]

1901
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:41,560
I think I'm having trouble

1902
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:43,600
understanding.

1903
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,920
In like simple terms, I maybe it's not

1904
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:47,839
simple terms because obviously I'm

1905
01:09:47,839 --> 01:09:48,640
struggling here.

1906
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:49,839
>> Let me Let me do this. So,

1907
01:09:49,839 --> 01:09:53,160
>> are we doing is it a match or are we

1908
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:56,680
doing the entire contribution for 41 for

1909
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,200
the alternative to the pension?

1910
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,360
Or is it an addition?

1911
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,040
>> Is Is it an addition?

1912
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:06,600
>> So, like say if I'm public safety and I

1913
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:08,520
go to my retirement, I already have the

1914
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,080
URS,

1915
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,800
can I elect to do the Roth

1916
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:13,520
solution?

1917
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,400
>> So, those are totally separate things. So,

1918
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:18,080
we're talking about the retirement part

1919
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:19,840
of it, the two different retirements

1920
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:21,320
apart of it. The other thing that we

1921
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:23,440
talked about is savings plans for our

1922
01:10:23,440 --> 01:10:25,480
employees. So, those are totally

1923
01:10:25,480 --> 01:10:28,840
different things. The Roth 401K, 457,

1924
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,320
the traditional IRA, the Roth IRA, the

1925
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:35,320
457, the 401K, those are all employee

1926
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:36,960
contributions. We don't contribute

1927
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:38,160
anything to those.

1928
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,200
>> And and those are just new options that

1929
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:41,440
they've had for their investment

1930
01:10:41,440 --> 01:10:45,240
vehicles. They not had Roth 457 or 401Ks

1931
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:46,880
before, but they're now opening that up

1932
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:48,720
to them. But, let me let me see if I can

1933
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,040
help with the with the tier one and tier

1934
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:52,720
two. So, about I don't know, 10 or 12

1935
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:54,080
years ago,

1936
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,160
tier one was right here. Have this this

1937
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,400
amount of benefit. Tier two have this

1938
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,040
amount of benefit because because the

1939
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,000
state law changed in 2011. I think it

1940
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,200
was July 1st, 2011.

1941
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:08,680
So, at the time the council said a few

1942
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:10,280
years later the council said, "Okay, we

1943
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:13,800
want to help bring tier two up to be

1944
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:15,880
in parity with tier one. So, we are

1945
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:17,920
going to for public safety only. This is

1946
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:19,960
only public safety. There's no parity

1947
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:21,400
for any other public employees but

1948
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,680
public safety. So, at that time it was

1949
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:25,920
5%. That that difference in the parity

1950
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:27,640
from what they were getting and what we

1951
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,160
added to it from the city was about 5%.

1952
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:32,480
That that now down is is down to about

1953
01:11:32,480 --> 01:11:35,240
2% now, 2% a little bit. So, this extra

1954
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,680
1.25 it just eats into that little bit

1955
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:39,840
of parity to now pick up for that

1956
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:41,800
portion of public safety for their

1957
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,120
portion of it. Our portion of it stayed

1958
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:45,920
the same. It doesn't and it changes year

1959
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:47,440
to year.

1960
01:11:47,440 --> 01:11:50,000
So, it really is just a shift in how

1961
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:51,440
they're seeing the money whether it goes

1962
01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:53,760
into a 401k here or whether it goes in

1963
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:55,560
and we're paying it to a 401k on their

1964
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:57,920
behalf for the pick up. There's no

1965
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:02,000
change in value or in cost to us for

1966
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:03,200
the amount that we're paying.

1967
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:04,720
>> that that's the thing is like they could

1968
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:06,480
say, "Hey, I don't want a pension. I

1969
01:12:06,480 --> 01:12:08,400
want to enroll in this." And then we

1970
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:10,640
just contribute that same equal amount.

1971
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,040
That Okay, that's what I was confused

1972
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:13,920
about. I was like, "Are we agreeing to

1973
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,600
that and a match or something?" That's

1974
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:18,880
what I was confused about. Okay. Yeah.

1975
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:21,000
Okay. That's really

1976
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:22,600
>> That's Well, that's really that's a

1977
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:24,400
really great benefit. I mean

1978
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:25,920
>> There's three types of employees.

1979
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,160
There's tier one, which is mostly a

1980
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:32,040
pension. There's tier two hybrid, which

1981
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:34,840
is partially a pension and partially a

1982
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,320
401k contribution.

1983
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:40,080
And then there's a tier two defined

1984
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:41,920
contribution, which is just a

1985
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,400
contribution to a 401k. Those are the

1986
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:47,280
types of employees. The Roth and all

1987
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:49,800
those those are types of funding options

1988
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:51,440
that employees can elect to

1989
01:12:51,440 --> 01:12:53,720
>> savings plans that they can elect to

1990
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:55,320
take money out of their paycheck and put

1991
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:55,760
into.

1992
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,000
>> Yeah. Can they do it in addition? That's

1993
01:12:58,000 --> 01:12:59,640
what I'm saying, in addition to the

1994
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:00,320
pension.

1995
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:00,680
>> Yes.

1996
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:01,280
>> on their own. It's not

1997
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:03,040
>> No, we don't we don't put anything in

1998
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:04,640
there, but they can take money out of

1999
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:06,080
their own paycheck and put in those

2000
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:07,000
savings plans.

2001
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:08,120
>> And that was the previous agenda

2002
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,120
>> and we actually encourage them to do

2003
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:10,720
that.

2004
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:12,000
>> That was the previous agenda item is

2005
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,400
they give two new funding

2006
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:15,080
or two

2007
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:16,040
>> mechanisms

2008
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:16,680
>> uh

2009
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,400
retirement options to put put money

2010
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:20,280
towards.

2011
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:21,440
>> that's on the employee.

2012
01:13:21,440 --> 01:13:22,920
>> Cuz I'm I'm seeing

2013
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:23,120
employee

2014
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:25,600
>> See that fourth whereas there where it

2015
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:27,200
says

2016
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:29,600
um

2017
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:33,560
make an equal 401k employer contribution

2018
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:35,680
as required by law. That's where I was

2019
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:36,680
confused. I'm like

2020
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:39,560
>> where it the parity amount it goes into

2021
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:41,040
a 401k.

2022
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:43,320
So that's why it says 401k contribution.

2023
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,440
So the parity amount that we're paying

2024
01:13:45,440 --> 01:13:47,920
to make the tier one to tier two equal,

2025
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:50,120
it goes automatically into a 401k. We

2026
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:53,160
don't we don't allow them to to take our

2027
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:54,840
contribution and put it anywhere else in

2028
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:56,240
except for a 401k.

2029
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:59,240
>> Okay. That makes sense. Thanks.

2030
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:00,360
Okay.

2031
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,440
Are there any questions?

2032
01:14:03,440 --> 01:14:04,840
>> I'm kind of curious how many other

2033
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:07,200
cities take up the employee pay the

2034
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,240
employee contribution completely like we

2035
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:09,560
are.

2036
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:12,120
>> So it's actually a range. Some some have

2037
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,080
chosen to go to like 5%, some are

2038
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,016
picking up the whole thing. Because

2039
01:14:16,016 --> 01:14:16,480
>> [laughter]

2040
01:14:16,480 --> 01:14:18,280
>> because we have the parity it's again

2041
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,240
it's equal dollars. There's no budget

2042
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,160
impact to us where others may have a

2043
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:23,320
budget impact. Okay.

2044
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:25,240
>> Well, I realize it's a good benefit. I'm

2045
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:28,200
just wondering how

2046
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:29,960
it compares to other cities and how we

2047
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,080
can present that for recruiting and

2048
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:33,200
whatnot.

2049
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:36,360
>> So um there was a survey going around.

2050
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:37,280
Um

2051
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,240
we we talked about this about a month

2052
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:41,160
and a half or so ago. Mayor asked me to

2053
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:43,520
send something around. Um I sent out an

2054
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:45,600
email and then Orem City had actually

2055
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:46,720
sent out something else for another

2056
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:48,120
survey. They added a line to it said,

2057
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:49,200
"What are you guys What are you What are

2058
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:52,080
you guys doing for the 401K or the the

2059
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,920
pick up amount?" Majority of public

2060
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:56,640
safety entities are picking up the

2061
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:57,480
entire thing.

2062
01:14:57,480 --> 01:14:57,960
>> Okay.

2063
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:00,600
>> There are some. Uh Spanish Fork is

2064
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:02,520
picking up 5% and having the employee

2065
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,480
pick up 0.98. Um

2066
01:15:05,480 --> 01:15:08,080
there are some that leaving it at 4.73,

2067
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:09,520
but a majority of the ones that were

2068
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:11,040
surveyed are actually picking up the

2069
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:11,560
whole thing.

2070
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:12,360
>> Okay.

2071
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:13,880
Then we definitely need to keep doing

2072
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:14,280
that.

2073
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,560
>> Which which again is the the whole

2074
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:20,000
>> Yeah.

2075
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:21,800
Wanted to make sure that we'd covered

2076
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:23,600
ourselves with all of that, too, and we

2077
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:25,120
weren't stepping out in front of

2078
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:26,680
everybody. We don't need to lead the

2079
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:27,240
show.

2080
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:28,360
>> Yeah.

2081
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:31,040
>> We certainly want to retain the officers

2082
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:33,720
and that's an investment that we have.

2083
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:34,520
>> I agree.

2084
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:35,680
>> Okay.

2085
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:37,960
Um any other questions?

2086
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:42,320
Then I'd entertain a motion on 0608.

2087
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:43,960
>> I'll make a motion to approve resolution

2088
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:45,520
0608-2026.

2089
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:46,360
>> I'll second it.

2090
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:48,760
>> Moved and seconded. Travis?

2091
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:49,280
>> Aye.

2092
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:49,680
>> Lynn?

2093
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:50,160
>> Aye.

2094
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:50,880
>> Brian?

2095
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:51,800
>> Aye.

2096
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:52,302
>> Art?

2097
01:15:52,302 --> 01:15:52,440
>> [clears throat]

2098
01:15:52,440 --> 01:15:53,440
>> Aye.

2099
01:15:53,440 --> 01:15:55,080
>> Got you, didn't I?

2100
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:55,600
Jeff?

2101
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:56,640
>> Aye.

2102
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:59,000
>> Okay. [snorts] Motion passed. Uh

2103
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,800
we need to look at um

2104
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:05,000
the state law that was passed that makes

2105
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,080
it so that

2106
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,960
we have affordable housing and we no

2107
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,200
longer can

2108
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:14,120
make people

2109
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:17,590
or uh

2110
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,680
even even contractors

2111
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:23,560
put in their um

2112
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:25,840
their

2113
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:28,440
Yeah, last landscaping so they allowed

2114
01:16:28,440 --> 01:16:31,120
them to look good in the neighborhood.

2115
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:32,760
That was a decision.

2116
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:35,440
>> that's our understanding of the the

2117
01:16:35,440 --> 01:16:37,400
intent of of that legislation, but

2118
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:39,720
essentially this this proposed ordinance

2119
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:41,560
is is to amend our code so that we're in

2120
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,080
line with with new state legislation. Uh

2121
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,760
right now we require uh the landscaping

2122
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,600
be completed uh before a certificate of

2123
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,160
occupancy is issued or they need to to

2124
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,120
provide an appropriate bond if it's

2125
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,880
during winter months or or whatever. Um

2126
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:58,720
but the state is not allowing us to do

2127
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:00,760
that anymore. Uh it's our understanding

2128
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:02,400
that that that's probably something to

2129
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:03,720
help towards

2130
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:05,320
uh making more affordable housing so

2131
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:07,360
that they they don't have that

2132
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:10,120
obligation of of additional costs

2133
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,520
related to landscaping. So, I know there

2134
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:14,000
was some discussion about this in the

2135
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:15,760
work meeting and and there could be some

2136
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:18,480
uh code enforcement uh efforts uh at the

2137
01:17:18,480 --> 01:17:19,720
direction of the council, but for

2138
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:21,880
purposes of getting our our code in line

2139
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:24,480
with state code and uh

2140
01:17:24,480 --> 01:17:28,920
and adjusting our code so that we're not requiring landscaping before

2141
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:30,800
certificate of occupancy, that's the

2142
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,120
language before you in ordinance

2143
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:34,320
uh

2144
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:35,720
um

2145
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:40,430
06012026.

2146
01:17:40,440 --> 01:17:44,320
» What will we do for the state?

2147
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:47,470
Any questions?

2148
01:17:47,480 --> 01:17:49,320
Any comments?

2149
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:52,720
Then I'd entertain a motion on

2150
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:54,880
uh code amendment removing the

2151
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:59,440
residential landscaping requirement.

2152
01:17:59,440 --> 01:18:00,880
>> I'll make a motion that we approve

2153
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:05,910
ordinance 06012026.

2154
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:07,520
» Is there a second?

2155
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:08,440
>> I'll second.

2156
01:18:08,440 --> 01:18:10,520
>> Moved and seconded. Brian?

2157
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:10,920
>> I.

2158
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:11,440
>> Art?

2159
01:18:11,440 --> 01:18:12,040
>> I.

2160
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:12,920
>> Jeff?

2161
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:13,600
>> I.

2162
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:14,040
>> Lynn?

2163
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:14,360
>> I.

2164
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:15,000
>> Travis?

2165
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:16,560
>> I.

2166
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:21,040
>> Thank you. Then uh we'll move into uh

2167
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:22,480
the

2168
01:18:22,480 --> 01:18:24,840
zone change.

2169
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:29,600
>> Yeah, Mayor and Council, before you is an ordinance uh reflecting a proposal

2170
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:31,960
by uh

2171
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:34,120
some applicants who who are looking at a

2172
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:38,320
home on along SR 198 uh they're are that

2173
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,640
property to be rezoned from residential

2174
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:42,080
agriculture,

2175
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:42,720
uh

2176
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:46,600
R Ag, to residential commercial, RC. Uh

2177
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:48,360
we talked about this in the work session

2178
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:50,160
and and uh I don't see the applicants

2179
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,080
here. Uh they did receive a negative

2180
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:53,280
recommendation from the planning

2181
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,520
commission. Uh I think staff is probably

2182
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:56,680
in line with the the planning

2183
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:58,400
commission's recommendation. One thing I

2184
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:00,800
didn't mention in the work session is is

2185
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:01,440
uh

2186
01:19:01,440 --> 01:19:05,080
their intent is to to do uh um

2187
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:05,640
uh

2188
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:07,240
kind of a daycare,

2189
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:08,120
um

2190
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:11,400
for for children. Uh they could start to

2191
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:12,680
do that in the current zoning that they

2192
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,480
have under home occupation. Uh with

2193
01:19:15,480 --> 01:19:17,160
their proposal, if they went to

2194
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:19,280
residential commercial and and the

2195
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:20,600
daycare,

2196
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:21,960
you know, wasn't really working for

2197
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,160
them, uh that would potentially open

2198
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:26,240
them up to other things in the RC zone,

2199
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:27,880
which could be a concern. That would

2200
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:30,200
include storage units, multi-family,

2201
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:31,520
things like that that I don't know if

2202
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:33,680
the the planning commission was was

2203
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:34,800
excited about. I don't know if the

2204
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:36,880
council would be either.

2205
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:38,000
Um

2206
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:39,440
I think it was encouraged to them that

2207
01:19:39,440 --> 01:19:40,960
if if they wanted to start as a home

2208
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:42,160
occupation, which I think is their

2209
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:44,560
intent, they could do that now, and as

2210
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:46,040
they they grow and and they want to

2211
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:48,360
become more of a commercial business, uh

2212
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:50,400
probably the the C1 interchange zone is

2213
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:51,720
what the planning commission suggested

2214
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:53,760
to them. I would agree with that. In the

2215
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,320
C1 zone, uh you're not able to do any

2216
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,240
sort of residential type of development,

2217
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:00,320
and storage units are also a use that's

2218
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:02,840
not allowed in that zone. So, uh that's

2219
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:04,480
the proposal. Uh the applicant's not

2220
01:20:04,480 --> 01:20:06,600
here to to kind of represent their their

2221
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,000
proposal. Uh

2222
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:11,240
I would suggest uh if if you're you're

2223
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:16,960
in line with the planning commission to uh not approve this ordinance, or if

2224
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:18,200
you'd like to hear from the applicant,

2225
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:21,400
you could table that. Um but

2226
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:23,200
with them not being here, that that that

2227
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:28,240
would be my recommendation uh for you to move forward tonight.

2228
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:31,120
>> Does anyone have a question on this? I

2229
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:33,120
know we've discussed it a little bit.

2230
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:34,920
>> I sat in planning commission. I was very

2231
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:37,400
thankful for Commissioner Hoffman to

2232
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:38,760
say exactly what I was thinking the

2233
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:40,280
first time I saw the public notice go

2234
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:41,400
out for it.

2235
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:43,200
Made a lot of sense and

2236
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:44,920
everyone agreed with him. I am kind of

2237
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:46,960
curious if they were to open up their

2238
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:48,800
home-based business right now

2239
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:51,000
and then next month they change to C1,

2240
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:52,480
they could still run that home-based

2241
01:20:52,480 --> 01:20:53,400
business, right?

2242
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:55,200
>> You know, that's a good question. That's

2243
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:57,320
>> Would it be legal non-conforming?

2244
01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:58,760
>> Well, and that's a unique question.

2245
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:00,120
We've talked with Brett about that.

2246
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,200
Usually legal non-conforming happens

2247
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:04,160
when the city changes the zoning and

2248
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:06,120
they were already existing. The fact

2249
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:07,640
that they would be the ones changing

2250
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:10,400
their own zoning makes it a new dynamic

2251
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:11,840
that I'm not as familiar with. I don't

2252
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:13,320
know if Brett wants to expound on that,

2253
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:14,240
but

2254
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:16,280
yeah, that's that's kind of a a weird

2255
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:19,120
one that that someone would would do

2256
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,240
something and then

2257
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:23,560
change the zoning that that doesn't make

2258
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:25,280
what they want to do legal anymore. I

2259
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:30,040
don't know if the non-conforming would hold up or not.

2260
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:31,880
>> And that's why we had the discussion

2261
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:33,280
about that and we said, you know, you're

2262
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:34,720
better to stay

2263
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:36,360
uh safe with it and not get into that

2264
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:37,160
area.

2265
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:39,960
>> Right. So, again, I think if they they

2266
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:41,720
do the home occupation and then when

2267
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:43,440
they're ready to make the transition to

2268
01:21:43,440 --> 01:21:45,000
more of a commercial, then they would go

2269
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:46,960
to the for the rezone, but I think we

2270
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:48,880
would suggest to them to not to start

2271
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,160
the home occupation and then do a rezone

2272
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:53,080
just so that they have that there when

2273
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:54,800
they eventually grow to the point where

2274
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:56,080
they want to make that transition to

2275
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:57,040
more of a commercial operation.

2276
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:58,040
>> Well, since they're not here, I'm I'll

2277
01:21:58,040 --> 01:21:59,800
kind of summarize what they want what

2278
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:01,360
they're trying to accomplish here. They

2279
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:03,960
don't want to

2280
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:05,560
They want to expand to commercial

2281
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:06,880
eventually, but they don't want to get

2282
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:08,680
held up from the rezone because they're

2283
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:10,120
going to have to add in the improvements

2284
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:12,280
and infrastructure and things like that.

2285
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:13,760
So, they're trying to bypass that with

2286
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:15,200
the RC.

2287
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:17,480
Um I was thinking

2288
01:22:17,480 --> 01:22:18,960
you know, starting it now, having a

2289
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:20,400
home-based be legal non-conforming, that

2290
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:21,680
would help them

2291
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:23,960
with that transition, but if that's

2292
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,000
a gray area, then it's probably not

2293
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:27,840
a good solution for them.

2294
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:29,240
Um

2295
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:31,520
Yeah, I still agree that RC is a bad

2296
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:34,120
zone for that lot.

2297
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:35,800
Hope we can help them out best we can,

2298
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:37,880
but

2299
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:39,120
Yeah, I don't think that'd be a good

2300
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:42,982
spot for that area.

2301
01:22:42,992 --> 01:22:43,240
» [clears throat]

2302
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:47,320
>> Okay. Any other comments or question?

2303
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:50,520
Then I would entertain a motion

2304
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:53,560
on this Bright Steps Academy rezone.

2305
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:58,150
>> I'd make a motion that we not approve

2306
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:00,600
the amending of the zoning map of Santa

2307
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:07,830
Quin City ordinance 0602-2026.

2308
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:10,960
» So, a motion made to deny. Is there a

2309
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:11,680
second?

2310
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:13,160
>> I'll second.

2311
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:14,840
>> Moved and seconded. And Travis?

2312
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:15,600
>> Aye.

2313
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:16,120
>> Then?

2314
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:16,600
>> Aye.

2315
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:17,040
>> Jeff?

2316
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:17,440
>> Aye.

2317
01:23:17,440 --> 01:23:18,040
>> Art?

2318
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:19,040
>> Aye.

2319
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:19,600
>> Brian?

2320
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:20,960
>> Aye.

2321
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:24,520
>> Motion was denied. And we'll move on to

2322
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:27,000
>> Motion was accepted to deny the request.

2323
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,040
>> Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

2324
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:32,240
>> Make sure that's clear for the minutes.

2325
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:34,400
>> Sorry.

2326
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:38,390
Freudian slip.

2327
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:39,400
Okay.

2328
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:40,000
Um

2329
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:43,070
F F and E.

2330
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,160
» Uh so, discussion possible action on the

2331
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:48,760
approval of the RAP tax funding, uh item

2332
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,000
number 14.

2333
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,160
So, we have uh

2334
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:55,040
Community Services Director

2335
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:56,480
Kami Ellsworth here with us, and I'll

2336
01:23:56,480 --> 01:23:58,640
let her go ahead and present on this and

2337
01:23:58,640 --> 01:23:59,920
kind of give you the backstory and

2338
01:23:59,920 --> 01:24:01,400
what's happened and where we're at and

2339
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:04,590
what's being recommended.

2340
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:07,488
» Good evening again, mayor and council.

2341
01:24:07,488 --> 01:24:07,560
>> [clears throat]

2342
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:08,920
>> Um

2343
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:10,800
After meeting with staff and public

2344
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:14,360
works and former director Bradley, um

2345
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:16,840
we created a RAP tax recommendation

2346
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:20,560
list, which you will see on the um far

2347
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,950
left.

2348
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:25,480
And

2349
01:24:25,480 --> 01:24:28,160
the first three columns are the staff

2350
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:30,920
recommendations that we took before the

2351
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:32,640
RAP Tax Committee.

2352
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:35,160
That meeting was held on May 28th and

2353
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:38,080
after much discussion

2354
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:39,760
and they were very thorough. They went

2355
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,880
through each item one by one and as you

2356
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:44,680
can see in that second to the right

2357
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:46,840
column the yes and the no's, they went

2358
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:49,240
through and voted yes and no on each of

2359
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:51,320
the recommendations that we had

2360
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:53,080
presented to them.

2361
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:54,480
Um

2362
01:24:54,480 --> 01:25:00,040
and again after a lot of discussion they decided this year to allocate a

2363
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:03,480
large chunk of the RAP Tax money or

2364
01:25:03,480 --> 01:25:05,720
recommendation for a large chunk of the

2365
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:07,360
RAP Tax money to go towards the

2366
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:09,880
construction of the skate park. So

2367
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:11,480
$100,000

2368
01:25:11,480 --> 01:25:13,880
was recommended to go towards that

2369
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:15,240
project.

2370
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:17,080
And then you can see the rest of their

2371
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:19,320
recommendations

2372
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:21,600
in the yes and the no column.

2373
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:23,280
Um we can go through those if you want

2374
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:25,280
or you can just look at that yourself,

2375
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:27,960
but the total cost that they are

2376
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:30,280
recommending for RAP Tax going towards

2377
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:39,350
those projects this year is $160,000.

2378
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:41,200
And they also have

2379
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:42,880
recommended

2380
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:46,000
that if there's additional RAP Tax money

2381
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:49,120
above the 160

2382
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:52,360
thousand that they be consulted on how

2383
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:56,230
that money is spent.

2384
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:57,960
» And the reason for that is because the

2385
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:00,080
anticipated amount that we

2386
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,640
estimate is probably around 175,000 so

2387
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:04,680
there could be a 15 plus or minus

2388
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:06,520
thousand that have not would would not

2389
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:09,480
be allocated with this approval if it

2390
01:26:09,480 --> 01:26:12,000
happens to be approved that would then

2391
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:13,640
potentially go back to them. We

2392
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:14,840
obviously don't know what that

2393
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:16,520
collection is until the end of the year

2394
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:18,920
and so it may be able to if it's not

2395
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:20,520
used and it comes in, it would just roll

2396
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:21,800
into fund balance and we could use it

2397
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:23,720
next year. Fund fund balance for RAP

2398
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:24,520
tax.

2399
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:31,310
>> That's what I would think is easiest.

2400
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:32,880
» Any questions on those specific

2401
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,440
recommendations or anything

2402
01:26:35,440 --> 01:26:36,720
more for me?

2403
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:39,360
>> Any comments?

2404
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:40,280
Then

2405
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:42,800
I would entertain a motion on the RAP

2406
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:48,070
tax.

2407
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:50,600
» I'll make a motion to

2408
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:51,240
uh

2409
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:52,800
approve

2410
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:56,680
the RAP tax recommendations from the RAP

2411
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:59,630
tax committee.

2412
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:01,600
» Got a motion, is there a second?

2413
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:03,720
>> I'll second.

2414
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:05,040
>> Okay, um

2415
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:05,960
Travis.

2416
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:07,080
>> No.

2417
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:07,720
>> Lynn?

2418
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:09,360
>> No.

2419
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:10,120
>> Jeff?

2420
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:11,680
>> Aye.

2421
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:12,200
>> Art?

2422
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:13,080
>> Aye.

2423
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:13,640
>> Brian?

2424
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:15,000
>> Aye.

2425
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:16,760
>> Motion passed.

2426
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:18,760
Okay.

2427
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:23,480
Um we will move on to the

2428
01:27:23,480 --> 01:27:24,760
CDRA.

2429
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:27,800
>> No, we got the the FF&E.

2430
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:29,840
>> Yeah, so Mayor and Council, they

2431
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,880
again Jen Wagner, our library director

2432
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,000
and and Shannon and staff have been

2433
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:37,080
working on FF&E, furniture, fixtures,

2434
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:39,360
and equipment. Um this would be an

2435
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:42,240
approval of a purchase of the

2436
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:44,400
bookshelves themselves from Spacemaker

2437
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:46,040
in our Mountain View. They are a They

2438
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,400
are a state bid contractor and so

2439
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:49,600
they've already gone through the vetting

2440
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:51,480
and the bidding process and that kind of

2441
01:27:51,480 --> 01:27:53,800
thing and this would help us to start

2442
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:57,760
the FF&E as indicated in the in the um

2443
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:00,200
in the work session, this is not all of

2444
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:02,600
the FF&E, this is just the bookshelves.

2445
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:04,520
We still have the RFID gates, we still

2446
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:07,080
have desks and chairs and furniture and

2447
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:09,800
other things to acquire for the FF&E for

2448
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:11,320
the library.

2449
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:12,960
Um happy to answer any questions on

2450
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:15,600
that, but this is before you for a not

2451
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:19,160
to exceed amount of 156,413.70

2452
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:23,585
for the bookshelves in the library.

2453
01:28:23,595 --> 01:28:26,430
» [clears throat]

2454
01:28:26,440 --> 01:28:28,320
» Any comments? Any questions?

2455
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,320
>> I appreciate the research and work that

2456
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:32,200
Jennifer's done to make sure that this

2457
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:35,360
was the best bang for the buck.

2458
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:37,600
>> I think it's fun that Cammy got baptized

2459
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:40,160
into book shelving.

2460
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:43,040
You know, you you were once sent to St.

2461
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:47,000
George to jump into wreck and everything

2462
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:50,680
else and and you did um

2463
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:53,560
marathons and now we're doing

2464
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:55,036
marishelves.

2465
01:28:55,036 --> 01:28:58,030
>> [laughter]

2466
01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:01,000
» I did notice we got a a $94,000

2467
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:02,960
discount, a toss it discount. Was that

2468
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:04,200
because we're

2469
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:06,040
have that certification we're talking

2470
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:07,040
we're discussing last year?

2471
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:08,440
>> is the state bid. That's that's

2472
01:29:08,440 --> 01:29:09,600
essentially what they've done is they

2473
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:12,000
take their MSRP and then because of the

2474
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:13,720
state bid, they discount it whatever

2475
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:14,520
that percentage is.

2476
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:15,920
>> So, any library in Utah would get that

2477
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:16,360
same discount?

2478
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:18,080
>> I I would assume so. I don't know. I've

2479
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:19,720
not shopped for other libraries, but I

2480
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:21,080
assume that that would be the case.

2481
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:22,640
Okay. We have enough to do here, so I

2482
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:22,960
don't

2483
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:24,760
>> that's that's a 54% discount. That's

2484
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:25,360
pretty good.

2485
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:27,640
>> Yeah.

2486
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:29,600
>> Okay.

2487
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:31,480
That's that's always good. You know

2488
01:29:31,480 --> 01:29:34,280
what? We've worked hard for this library

2489
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:35,800
for

2490
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:38,240
come up with money to pay for it and I

2491
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:41,760
am tickled that we can do this. So.

2492
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:43,200
Um

2493
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:45,600
I would entertain a motion

2494
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:47,360
on the FF&E.

2495
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:48,560
>> Mr. Mayor, I'll make the motion to

2496
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:51,200
authorize the purchase for library FF&E

2497
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:54,000
bookshelves to Spacesaver Intermountain

2498
01:29:54,000 --> 01:30:00,070
in an amount not to exceed 156,413.70.

2499
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:02,400
» I have a motion. Is there a second?

2500
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:03,880
>> I'll second.

2501
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:05,680
>> Moved and seconded. Brian?

2502
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:06,280
>> Aye.

2503
01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:06,840
>> Art?

2504
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:07,640
>> Aye.

2505
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:08,240
>> Jeff?

2506
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:09,040
>> Aye.

2507
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:09,440
>> Lynn?

2508
01:30:09,440 --> 01:30:09,880
>> Aye.

2509
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:10,520
>> Travis?

2510
01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:11,320
>> Aye.

2511
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:14,910
>> Motion passed.

2512
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:17,600
Now now we're at the CDRA.

2513
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:18,800
>> Mhm.

2514
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:21,760
>> So, uh in order to comply with all of

2515
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:23,000
the uh

2516
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:25,960
budget requirements under the state, uh

2517
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:28,760
we need to move into a

2518
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:31,480
the community development renewal agency

2519
01:30:31,480 --> 01:30:33,320
look at the budget,

2520
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:38,000
um which is under resolution 0602.

2521
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:39,240
>> So, you need a motion to go into that

2522
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:39,600
meeting?

2523
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:40,120
>> Yeah.

2524
01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:41,440
>> So moved.

2525
01:30:41,440 --> 01:30:44,600
>> Have moved. Is there a second?

2526
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:45,560
>> I'll second.

2527
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:47,080
>> Moved and seconded. Brian?

2528
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:47,520
>> Aye.

2529
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:48,000
>> Art?

2530
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:48,480
>> Aye.

2531
01:30:48,480 --> 01:30:49,000
>> Jeff?

2532
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:49,520
>> Aye.

2533
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:49,880
>> Lynn?

2534
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:50,520
>> Aye.

2535
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:51,120
>> Travis?

2536
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:51,800
>> Aye.

2537
01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:53,760
>> Now we're the board, no longer the

2538
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:56,160
council.

2539
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:57,400
So,

2540
01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:00,280
you want to go through this uh because

2541
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:03,040
this is exactly how we proposed it a

2542
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:04,800
month ago.

2543
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:08,480
>> Yeah, so board members and chair,

2544
01:31:08,480 --> 01:31:11,200
I got that right this time.

2545
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:11,840
Uh [laughter and clears throat] this is

2546
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:13,880
the budget for the CDRA, the community

2547
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:15,640
development renewal agency for Santaquin

2548
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:16,680
City.

2549
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:18,440
Um this budget has not changed from the

2550
01:31:18,440 --> 01:31:20,040
tentative and we'll present that for you

2551
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:24,110
for your approval.

2552
01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:26,120
» With that, do you have any questions or

2553
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:29,320
anything that we may have omitted or not

2554
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:31,440
talked about?

2555
01:31:31,440 --> 01:31:33,880
Then I would entertain a motion on the

2556
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:37,790
CDRA.

2557
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:39,360
» So moved.

2558
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:40,440
>> Is there a second?

2559
01:31:40,440 --> 01:31:41,680
>> Why do we have so much feedback?

2560
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:42,720
>> I'll second.

2561
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:44,520
>> Moved and seconded. Travis?

2562
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:44,960
>> Aye.

2563
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:45,360
>> Lynn?

2564
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:45,880
>> Aye.

2565
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:46,440
>> Jeff?

2566
01:31:46,440 --> 01:31:47,600
>> Aye.

2567
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:48,240
>> Art?

2568
01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:48,640
>> Aye.

2569
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:49,360
>> Brian?

2570
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:51,120
>> Aye.

2571
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:53,040
>> Motion passed.

2572
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:55,520
Uh I need a motion to adjourn from the

2573
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:56,520
CDRA.

2574
01:31:56,520 --> 01:31:57,960
>> So moved.

2575
01:31:57,960 --> 01:31:59,920
>> Is there a second?

2576
01:31:59,920 --> 01:32:01,280
>> I'll second.

2577
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:03,240
>> Moved and seconded it, Travis.

2578
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:03,960
>> Aye.

2579
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:04,280
>> Lynn?

2580
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:05,440
>> Aye.

2581
01:32:05,440 --> 01:32:06,080
>> Jeff?

2582
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:06,400
>> Aye.

2583
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:06,920
>> Art?

2584
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:07,320
>> Aye.

2585
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:07,840
>> Brian?

2586
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:08,840
>> Aye.

2587
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:10,760
>> Now, we're back into the council. I need

2588
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:12,920
a motion to adjourn to the local

2589
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:13,920
building authority.

2590
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:15,480
>> So moved.

2591
01:32:15,480 --> 01:32:17,680
>> Is there a second?

2592
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:18,760
>> I'll second.

2593
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:20,960
>> Moved and seconded Travis.

2594
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:21,760
>> Aye.

2595
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:22,200
>> Lynn?

2596
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:23,560
>> Aye.

2597
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:24,320
>> Jeff?

2598
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:25,240
>> Aye.

2599
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:25,760
>> Art?

2600
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:26,200
>> Aye.

2601
01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:26,800
>> Brian?

2602
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:27,960
>> Aye.

2603
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:30,240
>> We are now in the Santaquin local

2604
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:33,360
building authority under the same Orton

2605
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:35,320
chair

2606
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:37,400
situation. Um

2607
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:39,280
these are the same numbers that we went

2608
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:40,560
over a

2609
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:43,910
uh month ago.

2610
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:46,200
» Yeah, so board members, this is the

2611
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:48,000
budget for the LBA, the local building

2612
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:49,200
authority.

2613
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:50,840
This is the mechanism by which we have

2614
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:52,200
financed one of our buildings, the

2615
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:54,080
public works uh building down on the

2616
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:55,600
north end of town.

2617
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:57,120
And I present this budget for you for

2618
01:32:57,120 --> 01:32:58,760
approval. Again, it's not changed from

2619
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:02,640
the from the uh tentative budget. This is the

2620
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:04,160
essentially where we bring money in from

2621
01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:08,520
the city and pay for the uh bond on the building at the

2622
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:11,950
public works building.

2623
01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:13,920
» Any questions?

2624
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:15,840
We've had a chance to review it, so I

2625
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:19,120
would ask for a uh motion on resolution

2626
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:22,790
0601.

2627
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:24,640
» So moved.

2628
01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:28,630
>> I have a motion. Is there a second?

2629
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:29,880
» I'll second that.

2630
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:31,640
>> Moved and seconded Travis.

2631
01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:32,040
>> Aye.

2632
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:32,480
>> Lynn?

2633
01:33:32,480 --> 01:33:33,040
>> Aye.

2634
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:33,600
>> Jeff?

2635
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:34,200
>> Aye.

2636
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:34,800
>> Art?

2637
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:35,280
>> Aye.

2638
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:35,920
>> Brian?

2639
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:37,000
>> Aye.

2640
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:39,920
>> Motion passed. I need a motion to get

2641
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:41,920
out of the Santaquin local building

2642
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:42,400
authority.

2643
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:43,200
>> So moved.

2644
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:48,350
>> It's been moved. Is there a second?

2645
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:49,600
» I'll second.

2646
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:51,400
>> Moved and seconded Brian.

2647
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:52,960
>> Aye.

2648
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:53,640
>> Art?

2649
01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:54,520
>> Aye.

2650
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:55,240
>> Jeff?

2651
01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:55,600
>> Aye.

2652
01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:56,040
>> Lynn?

2653
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:56,400
>> Aye.

2654
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:57,080
>> Travis?

2655
01:33:57,080 --> 01:33:58,400
>> Hi.

2656
01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:00,440
>> Back into a

2657
01:34:00,440 --> 01:34:02,440
regular council meeting. We need to go

2658
01:34:02,440 --> 01:34:05,240
into the special service district. I

2659
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:10,430
would entertain a motion to

2660
01:34:10,440 --> 01:34:13,000
go into that

2661
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:15,080
special service district.

2662
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:17,040
>> So moved.

2663
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:18,610
>> Is there a second?

2664
01:34:18,610 --> 01:34:19,720
>> [clears throat]

2665
01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:20,680
>> I'll second.

2666
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:22,760
>> Moved and seconded. Brian.

2667
01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:23,240
>> Hi.

2668
01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:23,840
>> Art.

2669
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:24,360
>> Hi.

2670
01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:25,040
>> Jeff.

2671
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:25,320
>> Hi.

2672
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:25,760
>> Lynn.

2673
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:26,160
>> Hi.

2674
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:26,800
>> Travis.

2675
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:27,800
>> Hi.

2676
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:29,640
>> We're now in the special service

2677
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:34,230
district for the water. So, um

2678
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:35,680
North, do you want to go through that?

2679
01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:37,760
>> Yeah, board members and chair, this is

2680
01:34:37,760 --> 01:34:39,640
the the water district, the special

2681
01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:41,000
service district that deals with our

2682
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:43,800
water rights, our water assessments,

2683
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:45,240
some of our water assessments through

2684
01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:47,360
the irrigation company and others.

2685
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:49,240
So, again, this is just a a mechanism, a

2686
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:51,320
sub entity of the city that allows us to

2687
01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:53,960
be able to to deal with and and handle

2688
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:55,560
our water rights and assessments, et

2689
01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:56,680
cetera. I'm happy to answer any

2690
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:58,760
questions. Again, this is not changed

2691
01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:01,640
from the tentative budget.

2692
01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:03,680
>> Any questions?

2693
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:05,960
Then I would entertain a motion from the

2694
01:35:05,960 --> 01:35:07,640
board

2695
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:10,790
on that.

2696
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:12,440
» Mr. Mayor, I'll make a motion to approve

2697
01:35:12,440 --> 01:35:16,000
resolution 0601-2026

2698
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:17,520
for the Santaquin Special Service

2699
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:19,800
District Water.

2700
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:24,270
>> I've had a motion. Is there a second?

2701
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:25,800
» I'll second.

2702
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:28,000
>> Moved and seconded. Brian.

2703
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:28,480
>> Hi.

2704
01:35:28,480 --> 01:35:29,000
>> Art.

2705
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:29,600
>> Hi.

2706
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:30,200
>> Jeff.

2707
01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:30,560
>> Hi.

2708
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:31,000
>> Lynn.

2709
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:31,400
>> Hi.

2710
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:32,040
>> Travis.

2711
01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:33,720
>> Hi.

2712
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:38,360
>> Motion passed. I need a motion to

2713
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:40,760
go from the

2714
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:44,520
special service district back to council

2715
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:45,040
meeting.

2716
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:45,880
>> So moved.

2717
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:46,800
>> Seconded.

2718
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:48,640
>> Moved and seconded. Travis.

2719
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:49,680
>> Hi.

2720
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:50,080
>> Lynn.

2721
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:50,840
>> Hi.

2722
01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:51,400
>> Jeff.

2723
01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:51,920
>> Hi.

2724
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:52,480
>> Art.

2725
01:35:52,480 --> 01:35:53,040
>> Hi.

2726
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:54,160
>> Brian.

2727
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:54,800
>> Hi.

2728
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:57,880
>> We are back in the

2729
01:35:57,880 --> 01:36:02,710
fray of things. Okay.

2730
01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:04,800
I would like to

2731
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:08,160
go into our reports for the officers

2732
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:10,760
and staff. So, Jason.

2733
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:12,720
>> Yeah, American Council. Uh

2734
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:15,480
a couple of things coming up on upcoming

2735
01:36:15,480 --> 01:36:18,320
DRC meeting. That'll be next Tuesday. Uh

2736
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:21,480
we have likely the the site plan for a

2737
01:36:21,480 --> 01:36:24,360
new Taco Bell. Uh this would be on the

2738
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:26,600
east side, sorry, west side of the

2739
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:28,560
Macy's parking lot. Uh it's gone through

2740
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:33,080
the DRC a couple times. There's some uh

2741
01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:35,080
red lines and things with parking stuff

2742
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:37,000
that they need to address. So, uh we're

2743
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:39,800
anticipating that'll likely probably uh

2744
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:42,720
hopefully get get approved and and uh

2745
01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:45,360
and can see that moving forward.

2746
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:47,600
Another site plan to make you aware of

2747
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:48,640
um

2748
01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:49,720
is

2749
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:53,360
uh it's a proposal to convert the Cards

2750
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:55,080
gas station at the south exit to a

2751
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:56,520
Maverick.

2752
01:36:56,520 --> 01:36:58,520
Uh as part of that

2753
01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:01,120
uh conversion, they would add some some

2754
01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:03,400
fuel pumps to the east side of the

2755
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:05,720
property for larger vehicles.

2756
01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:07,200
So,

2757
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:09,440
yeah, there's that conversion will be a

2758
01:37:09,440 --> 01:37:11,520
Maverick. I would anticipate that'll

2759
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:13,120
probably change the San Francisco

2760
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:14,720
Sourdough as well.

2761
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:15,520
Uh

2762
01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:16,920
it's something we might talk with the

2763
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:18,520
mayor about to see what we can do to to

2764
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:20,000
keep that business. I know that's been a

2765
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:22,160
good business in in town. I guess Cards

2766
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:24,720
has has been as well, but uh

2767
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:26,640
anyways, uh something to make you aware

2768
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:28,040
of and and something that's going

2769
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:30,800
through a process to to uh

2770
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:32,440
modify that site.

2771
01:37:32,440 --> 01:37:33,560
Uh for planning commission, we don't

2772
01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:35,000
have any pending applications. There are

2773
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:37,360
is some some work being done internally

2774
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:39,600
for some more uh ordinance amendments

2775
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:43,680
just to clean some some things up and address some things. Uh we don't

2776
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:45,600
have the the time to to set a public

2777
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:48,080
hearing for those amendments. so uh

2778
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:50,360
those will likely come next meeting, so

2779
01:37:50,360 --> 01:37:51,920
uh it looks like likely the planning

2780
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:53,600
commission meeting next Tuesday will be

2781
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:56,160
canceled due to lack of agenda items.

2782
01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:57,400
Uh last thing I just want to make you

2783
01:37:57,400 --> 01:37:59,560
aware of uh

2784
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:01,320
monthly we have employee luncheons,

2785
01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:02,760
which we love for council members to

2786
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:05,760
come and and uh and and mingle with with

2787
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:07,600
our employees. Uh

2788
01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:09,360
we usually do it on third Wednesdays of

2789
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:11,760
each month. This this month we are not

2790
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:14,400
doing it tomorrow. We're going to do it

2791
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:16,560
next week on Wednesday. Uh part of the

2792
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:18,680
reason we're doing that is we're we're

2793
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:21,080
uh working on doing a training for all

2794
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:23,240
of our staff, a mandatory training for

2795
01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:25,160
uh for sexual harassment to make sure

2796
01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:27,200
that that they're trained and and we

2797
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:30,040
can, you know, avoid any conflicts or or

2798
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:37,200
uh situations as HR issues arise, but uh we've got our uh employee assistance

2799
01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:38,760
program, Blomquist Health is going to

2800
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:40,280
come and do that training. It's not

2801
01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:42,480
required for staff for for council, but

2802
01:38:42,480 --> 01:38:43,640
you're welcome to come for that

2803
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:45,400
training. It'll be at 11:30 and then

2804
01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:47,440
we'll have uh an employee luncheon at

2805
01:38:47,440 --> 01:38:48,800
12:00, which

2806
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:51,640
you can come to any or all of it. Um

2807
01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:53,280
so I think that's all I have to report

2808
01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:56,990
unless you have any questions for me.

2809
01:38:57,000 --> 01:38:57,880
» Okay, Norm.

2810
01:38:57,880 --> 01:38:59,320
>> Yeah, Mayor and Council, just a couple

2811
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:02,280
of updates. So, a reminder on June 30th

2812
01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:04,720
we will have a city council special city

2813
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:06,320
council meeting to close out the budget

2814
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:08,240
for this fiscal year that we're in.

2815
01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:09,880
We've not gotten a We've not been able

2816
01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:11,880
to get to the as we've been working on

2817
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:14,280
the final budget since

2818
01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:16,280
several weeks ago. We've not been able

2819
01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:17,800
to to get that put together, but you'll

2820
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:19,920
notice a public hearing notice will go

2821
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:22,200
out on Friday for that, but it's 2 weeks

2822
01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:24,680
from tonight we will have a a special uh

2823
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:26,680
city council meeting just for you just

2824
01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:27,960
have the one

2825
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:30,600
uh public hearing in the in the budget

2826
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:33,320
for the city and I think for the CDRA.

2827
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:34,520
We'll bring that back to you and you'll

2828
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:35,800
be able to look at that.

2829
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:37,480
>> That's at 5:00.

2830
01:39:37,480 --> 01:39:38,160
>> Pardon me?

2831
01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:39,240
>> That's at 5:00.

2832
01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:40,800
>> that's correct. 5:00 5:00 p.m., that's

2833
01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:41,920
correct.

2834
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:43,440
And and I don't imagine that's going to

2835
01:39:43,440 --> 01:39:45,360
be a long meeting, maybe a half an hour,

2836
01:39:45,360 --> 01:39:46,560
something of that nature. There's not

2837
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:48,200
going to be any other budget or any

2838
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:50,840
other agenda items but those two that

2839
01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:52,680
I'm aware of at this point.

2840
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:54,760
Uh CUP update, they've I know that they

2841
01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:57,280
had a a on-site meeting today. They're

2842
01:39:57,280 --> 01:39:59,280
going to start getting that connection

2843
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:01,320
done and getting it put in.

2844
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:03,040
Um working on that out there in the

2845
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:04,880
field. The library update is looking

2846
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:06,040
very good. If you haven't been in the

2847
01:40:06,040 --> 01:40:08,760
library, the carpet flooring,

2848
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:10,920
electrical, etc. They're doing some some

2849
01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:13,440
minor touch-ups on cabinetry and and

2850
01:40:13,440 --> 01:40:17,280
countertops. And uh and the elevator is

2851
01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:19,000
supposed to be inspected in here in the

2852
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:21,320
next week or so. So, we're we're kind of

2853
01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:23,560
getting to that end of July 1st or end

2854
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:25,320
of June 1st of July time frame that we

2855
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:26,640
thought about and now we're ordering

2856
01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:29,000
FF&E and so, things are rolling over

2857
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:30,840
there and looking really good. On the

2858
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:32,440
rec building, you may If you haven't

2859
01:40:32,440 --> 01:40:34,600
driven by there, they paved the the

2860
01:40:34,600 --> 01:40:36,520
south parking lot for the new recreation

2861
01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:37,520
building.

2862
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:38,800
I think they paved it towards the end of

2863
01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:40,520
last week sometime, but it's paved now

2864
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:42,680
and striped and moving forward and

2865
01:40:42,680 --> 01:40:44,440
looking good over there.

2866
01:40:44,440 --> 01:40:46,720
Um the new website, I know that Molly

2867
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:49,200
sent to the to the all the council

2868
01:40:49,200 --> 01:40:50,360
members that the new website is

2869
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:52,600
forthcoming. It's 2 days away. On

2870
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:54,200
Thursday, we're looking to go live with

2871
01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:56,560
the new website. Last week, she sent you

2872
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:58,400
out a link to the new website that you

2873
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:00,560
can go kind of test drive and

2874
01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:02,520
break it if you can and help us to

2875
01:41:02,520 --> 01:41:03,880
understand if you have any questions or

2876
01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:06,240
concerns, but recognizing that that's

2877
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:10,230
going to go live on on Thursday.

2878
01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:11,920
Um I don't have anything else, but I'm

2879
01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:13,080
happy to answer any questions that you

2880
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:15,320
may have.

2881
01:41:15,320 --> 01:41:16,160
>> Okay.

2882
01:41:16,160 --> 01:41:17,400
Chad?

2883
01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:20,000
>> I have nothing to report tonight.

2884
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:20,840
>> Lynn?

2885
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:22,080
>> Nothing from me.

2886
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:23,400
>> Jeff?

2887
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:24,360
>> I don't have anything.

2888
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:28,630
>> Art?

2889
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:31,720
» Travis, would the youth council be

2890
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:34,640
willing to entertain the idea of placing

2891
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:36,040
about a a

2892
01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:38,680
individual flags at

2893
01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:41,560
specific grave sites in the cemetery

2894
01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:43,800
for Memorial Day and Veterans Day. We've

2895
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:46,280
identified 14 veterans that were

2896
01:41:46,280 --> 01:41:48,520
actually killed

2897
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:51,240
in a conflict.

2898
01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:53,560
And we're hoping to identify those with

2899
01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:55,800
a with a flag if and maybe the youth

2900
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:57,280
council would be

2901
01:41:57,280 --> 01:41:59,200
willing to

2902
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:00,320
put those up for us.

2903
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:03,640
>> I'll visit with you afterwards.

2904
01:42:03,640 --> 01:42:04,880
>> I I didn't hear you.

2905
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:06,480
>> I'll visit with you afterwards.

2906
01:42:06,480 --> 01:42:09,240
>> Okay.

2907
01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:10,200
Anything else?

2908
01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:12,440
>> Um yeah, I have quite a bit.

2909
01:42:12,440 --> 01:42:13,000
>> Okay.

2910
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:16,550
>> Um

2911
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:18,160
I know Jake's here. I don't know if he's

2912
01:42:18,160 --> 01:42:19,840
here about

2913
01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:22,600
a portable stage or not, but

2914
01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:24,720
his wife has asked me, "Do we have a

2915
01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:26,920
portable stage that we could use

2916
01:42:26,920 --> 01:42:28,400
in um

2917
01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:30,040
in our multi-purpose room or would the

2918
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:32,960
city be interested in purchasing

2919
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:35,080
a portable stage

2920
01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:37,360
for certain events and activities and

2921
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:39,400
performances and stuff?

2922
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:42,520
Seniors could use it in

2923
01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:43,600
other

2924
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:45,120
events that occur in in the

2925
01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:46,560
multi-purpose room."

2926
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:48,640
>> Tammy probably has an answer to that.

2927
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:58,230
>> Have we

2928
01:42:58,240 --> 01:43:00,800
» Do you have a any uh timing on that?

2929
01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:07,870
Like, would it be here before November?

2930
01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:10,200
» Time frame.

2931
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:12,750
>> Okay.

2932
01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:14,680
Uh the American Legion is sponsoring a

2933
01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:17,026
dinner for any veteran and a

2934
01:43:17,026 --> 01:43:18,840
[clears throat] and a and a and a a

2935
01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:20,200
guest of that veteran that lives in

2936
01:43:20,200 --> 01:43:22,040
Santaquin for a dinner.

2937
01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:24,520
And um

2938
01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:26,200
Jake Kester's wife has secured a

2939
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:28,440
magician for entertainment and it would

2940
01:43:28,440 --> 01:43:31,240
be very nice to have a a portable stage

2941
01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:33,760
for the magician to be on.

2942
01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:35,520
>> I will make sure to let

2943
01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:36,920
Okay.

2944
01:43:36,920 --> 01:43:38,360
The date for the dinner is Friday,

2945
01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:40,800
November the 13th at

2946
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:43,080
7:05.

2947
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:44,120
I don't know.

2948
01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:47,590
Hold on.

2949
01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:52,110
November 3rd. The dinner's at 5:30.

2950
01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:53,560
Um

2951
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:55,680
fireworks, are we going to make any

2952
01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:57,720
changes or do we want to have a

2953
01:43:57,720 --> 01:43:59,040
discussion

2954
01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:00,920
soon since [snorts] 4th of July is

2955
01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:04,280
imminent about fireworks in the

2956
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:05,600
community?

2957
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:07,640
Uh

2958
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:09,320
>> So, our fireworks policy has not

2959
01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:10,400
changed. The

2960
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:12,280
>> Guy, I know I'm I'm suggesting maybe we

2961
01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:15,120
change it because of the dryness

2962
01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:17,160
and not allow fireworks in the core part

2963
01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:18,360
of town.

2964
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:20,480
>> I'm happy to visit with the fire chief

2965
01:44:20,480 --> 01:44:22,400
about that and bring that back to you.

2966
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:23,760
>> Okay.

2967
01:44:23,760 --> 01:44:26,480
How about the city fireworks for the

2968
01:44:26,480 --> 01:44:28,280
celebration?

2969
01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:29,680
>> So far as I know, they're moving

2970
01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:31,000
forward.

2971
01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:32,760
>> Okay.

2972
01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:35,000
Um Shannon, what's the status of our

2973
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:38,640
rainy day fund? Are we still trying to

2974
01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:45,630
make it healthier?

2975
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:47,200
» The only thing I can answer at this

2976
01:44:47,200 --> 01:44:47,680
point

2977
01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:50,080
>> You got to turn that mic on, Shannon.

2978
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:51,240
>> The only thing I can answer at this

2979
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:54,640
point is that um we there will be

2980
01:44:54,640 --> 01:44:57,480
330,000 that goes back to the

2981
01:44:57,480 --> 01:44:58,560
um

2982
01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:01,120
fund balance to pay ourselves back for

2983
01:45:01,120 --> 01:45:03,040
the purchase of the cemetery property.

2984
01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:04,520
We've been so focused on the final

2985
01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:06,960
budget, I haven't even looked I mean,

2986
01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:09,360
we've looked at it, but we just don't

2987
01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:10,440
know what expenses are going to be

2988
01:45:10,440 --> 01:45:11,760
coming in and revenues coming in in the

2989
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:13,640
last couple weeks, so.

2990
01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:15,920
>> Right, but

2991
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:18,320
>> For sure, 330,000. That's what I can

2992
01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:19,360
answer right now.

2993
01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:20,760
>> It's on [laughter] our radar. Okay.

2994
01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:21,960
>> Yes.

2995
01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:23,560
>> Then I've had a couple citizens reach

2996
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:25,720
out to me regarding these flock cameras

2997
01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:27,360
that uh

2998
01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:30,400
that the city has has adopted them. I'm

2999
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:32,920
going to give a copy of these to

3000
01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:34,880
Stephanie so she can include it in the

3001
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:36,520
minutes.

3002
01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:38,560
One of them is from uh his first name is

3003
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:41,440
Adam. He says, "Hello. Although there's

3004
01:45:41,440 --> 01:45:43,320
truth that Flock cameras can identify

3005
01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:48,400
criminals and their activity, this does come off as lazy police work

3006
01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:50,160
with the side effect of living in

3007
01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:52,480
constant surveillance. I don't believe

3008
01:45:52,480 --> 01:45:53,840
the trade-off for the constant

3009
01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:55,880
surveillance justifies the ability to

3010
01:45:55,880 --> 01:45:58,200
find information through these systems

3011
01:45:58,200 --> 01:46:00,520
with the added

3012
01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:03,040
detriment to our own privacy. I hope

3013
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:04,360
you'll take

3014
01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:07,280
in the concerns of us in the city

3015
01:46:07,280 --> 01:46:09,200
that the rise in restricted freedoms

3016
01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:11,320
doesn't give us any hope

3017
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:12,680
that the world would be better for our

3018
01:46:12,680 --> 01:46:14,440
children. Please consider taking them

3019
01:46:14,440 --> 01:46:17,240
down so we can live in a little less

3020
01:46:17,240 --> 01:46:21,150
involvement from our government."

3021
01:46:21,160 --> 01:46:23,640
The other one's a little little lengthy.

3022
01:46:23,640 --> 01:46:24,960
Um

3023
01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:28,000
from a gentleman by the name of Cameron.

3024
01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:29,640
He first reached out and he said, "Dear

3025
01:46:29,640 --> 01:46:31,320
Councilman Adcock, I'm writing to you as

3026
01:46:31,320 --> 01:46:33,000
a resident of Santaquin to express my

3027
01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:35,560
strong opposition to the presence and

3028
01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:37,360
funding of Flock safety cameras in our

3029
01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:39,920
city. I do not support our city dollars

3030
01:46:39,920 --> 01:46:41,520
being used to fund the surveillance

3031
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:42,880
technology.

3032
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:44,640
Furthermore, I have safe serious

3033
01:46:44,640 --> 01:46:47,400
concerns regarding data privacy and do

3034
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:48,960
not trust that these systems will be

3035
01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:51,440
used strictly for their stated purpose.

3036
01:46:51,440 --> 01:46:53,520
As a constituent, I ask the city council

3037
01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:55,840
reconsider any current or future

3038
01:46:55,840 --> 01:46:58,880
financial commitment

3039
01:46:58,880 --> 01:47:00,200
uh

3040
01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:03,480
Flock safety cameras and prioritize the

3041
01:47:03,480 --> 01:47:05,560
privacy and trust of our family. Thank

3042
01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:08,000
you for your time and your service

3043
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:10,520
to the city. And I recognize our last

3044
01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:12,200
meeting we funded that for the next 5

3045
01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:13,160
years.

3046
01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:15,040
My reply to that was, "I appreciate your

3047
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:16,280
concern. I'm glad to hear from a

3048
01:47:16,280 --> 01:47:17,720
constituent.

3049
01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:19,280
The city feels that the police chief's

3050
01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:21,320
recommendation that they greatly

3051
01:47:21,320 --> 01:47:23,080
increase the police's ability to

3052
01:47:23,080 --> 01:47:25,520
identify and track those prone

3053
01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:27,280
to committing crime, thus increasing the

3054
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:28,960
community's safety. Thank you for

3055
01:47:28,960 --> 01:47:30,320
reaching out to me and sharing your

3056
01:47:30,320 --> 01:47:32,080
concern.

3057
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:34,280
His response was keyword prone to

3058
01:47:34,280 --> 01:47:36,400
committing a crime, not caught in the

3059
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:38,280
act of a crime, not actively committing

3060
01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:41,120
crimes, but tracking and surveying

3061
01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:43,560
and identifying people prone to commit a

3062
01:47:43,560 --> 01:47:46,320
crime. It doesn't just track or survey

3063
01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:48,240
those actively committing crimes, it is

3064
01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:50,000
doing it to everyone.

3065
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:51,640
Police work has been done for years on

3066
01:47:51,640 --> 01:47:53,840
relying on surveillance

3067
01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:55,400
to police the community. I don't think

3068
01:47:55,400 --> 01:47:57,440
is a good look, nor do many community

3069
01:47:57,440 --> 01:47:59,320
members like the idea of Flock being in

3070
01:47:59,320 --> 01:48:00,560
our community.

3071
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:02,600
Relying on constant surveillance, in my

3072
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:05,160
opinion, is lazy police work.

3073
01:48:05,160 --> 01:48:08,320
Quote from Benjamin Franklin in his

3074
01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:10,440
words to me, "Those who would give up

3075
01:48:10,440 --> 01:48:12,840
essential liberty to purchase a little

3076
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:15,080
bit of safety deserve neither liberty

3077
01:48:15,080 --> 01:48:17,040
nor safety." Again, Ben Franklin's

3078
01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:18,160
quote.

3079
01:48:18,160 --> 01:48:20,760
Continuing on his comments to me,

3080
01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:22,000
"What studies were done and how the

3081
01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:23,920
decision

3082
01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:25,840
What studies were done or how was the

3083
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:27,920
decision made for where the cameras are

3084
01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:29,120
placed?

3085
01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:30,720
Communities across the country are now

3086
01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:33,120
revoking their contracts with Flock over

3087
01:48:33,120 --> 01:48:35,640
safety concerns and data breaches.

3088
01:48:35,640 --> 01:48:37,200
When a government agency such as our

3089
01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:39,360
police force begins constantly surveying

3090
01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:40,680
its residents

3091
01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:42,160
through the use of Flock cameras and

3092
01:48:42,160 --> 01:48:44,320
similar things, that's where I believe

3093
01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:48,790
it crosses the line.

3094
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:53,350
I'm not going to read this because it's

3095
01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:55,280
page and a half,

3096
01:48:55,280 --> 01:49:00,150
but it's addressing um from um

3097
01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:03,320
It says citizen name Michelle.

3098
01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:06,520
It's addressing addressing her concern.

3099
01:49:06,520 --> 01:49:08,520
She lives down in Summer Ridge.

3100
01:49:08,520 --> 01:49:11,000
Um her concern about the data center,

3101
01:49:11,000 --> 01:49:14,560
and she raises she recognizes she's

3102
01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:16,760
late on the on the on the wagon for

3103
01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:19,800
discussion about this, but she raises

3104
01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:23,240
um the concerns that we have all heard

3105
01:49:23,240 --> 01:49:24,880
from other citizens in our community

3106
01:49:24,880 --> 01:49:27,000
about the impact that that data center

3107
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:31,630
would have, and she's opposed to it.

3108
01:49:31,640 --> 01:49:34,400
>> Thank you.

3109
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:36,640
Anything else?

3110
01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:39,990
Brian?

3111
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:42,600
» I thought I had a lot. Um no, I'm glad

3112
01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:44,360
you read those. Um I got some mean

3113
01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:45,480
emails.

3114
01:49:45,480 --> 01:49:48,230
Um

3115
01:49:48,240 --> 01:49:49,920
I have one question.

3116
01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:51,480
Uh

3117
01:49:51,480 --> 01:49:56,720
how have the library donations gone? Has it they I know there were some

3118
01:49:56,720 --> 01:49:58,640
commitments with the like with each

3119
01:49:58,640 --> 01:49:59,960
permit or something there was

3120
01:49:59,960 --> 01:50:02,600
commitments from certain donors. Is that

3121
01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:05,000
still trending well?

3122
01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:07,320
>> Uh the permits come in through and you

3123
01:50:07,320 --> 01:50:10,520
see those. I don't I don't get a

3124
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:13,280
report every time we get one.

3125
01:50:13,280 --> 01:50:14,480
But there's a couple of major

3126
01:50:14,480 --> 01:50:15,840
>> I'm trying to What's the status like are

3127
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:17,920
we trending well that like what was

3128
01:50:17,920 --> 01:50:20,600
committed we're getting and that there

3129
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:22,240
are enough commitments to meet the

3130
01:50:22,240 --> 01:50:23,800
library needs?

3131
01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:25,280
>> As far as those building building

3132
01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:27,120
permits, um they are still coming in for

3133
01:50:27,120 --> 01:50:28,800
that certain um

3134
01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:32,360
contractor who um

3135
01:50:32,360 --> 01:50:34,640
del- designated that amount per building

3136
01:50:34,640 --> 01:50:37,360
permit. Um we just received two more.

3137
01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:38,720
Um every time he picks up a building

3138
01:50:38,720 --> 01:50:40,840
permit he comes in. I would say maybe

3139
01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:43,040
two to three a month.

3140
01:50:43,040 --> 01:50:44,440
And it's

3141
01:50:44,440 --> 01:50:47,440
um the amount that they agreed on, so.

3142
01:50:47,440 --> 01:50:48,120
>> Mhm.

3143
01:50:48,120 --> 01:50:48,480
>> Yeah.

3144
01:50:48,480 --> 01:50:50,920
>> Mhm. The The other one that's still

3145
01:50:50,920 --> 01:50:54,320
outstanding is uh

3146
01:50:54,320 --> 01:50:56,240
one that we won't see until

3147
01:50:56,240 --> 01:50:57,800
November-ish.

3148
01:50:57,800 --> 01:50:59,440
>> Right. Is that going to affect the

3149
01:50:59,440 --> 01:51:00,760
library

3150
01:51:00,760 --> 01:51:05,920
at all or are we looking at covering the cost and then just

3151
01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:08,200
hopefully that that will come in to

3152
01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:09,680
backfill kind of like a grant or

3153
01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:10,480
something?

3154
01:51:10,480 --> 01:51:10,920
>> Yes.

3155
01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:11,680
>> Okay, okay.

3156
01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:11,880
>> Yep.

3157
01:51:11,880 --> 01:51:13,240
>> I I was just I was just worried that

3158
01:51:13,240 --> 01:51:14,680
like that might hold it up.

3159
01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:16,840
>> Yeah, in essence we have pledges and we

3160
01:51:16,840 --> 01:51:18,920
have cash that we have received and so

3161
01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:20,920
the pledges still continue to turn into

3162
01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:22,800
cash. They're not they're not sick I

3163
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:24,920
mean they are significant but not on a

3164
01:51:24,920 --> 01:51:26,880
daily basis other than the what what's

3165
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:29,160
been presented but but the the revenue

3166
01:51:29,160 --> 01:51:30,680
continues to come in and the pledges

3167
01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:33,040
continue to cover themselves and in and

3168
01:51:33,040 --> 01:51:35,160
turn into to revenue so we will continue

3169
01:51:35,160 --> 01:51:37,160
to collect that and and we have

3170
01:51:37,160 --> 01:51:38,640
sufficient funds to move forward with

3171
01:51:38,640 --> 01:51:40,240
the library FF&E.

3172
01:51:40,240 --> 01:51:41,440
>> Good thing it's not daily. That would be

3173
01:51:41,440 --> 01:51:42,440
a lot of processing and your

3174
01:51:42,440 --> 01:51:43,480
entertainment.

3175
01:51:43,480 --> 01:51:45,160
>> The amount The amount showing in capital

3176
01:51:45,160 --> 01:51:46,520
projects coming from the Friends of

3177
01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:49,280
Santaquin is the is the cash amount the

3178
01:51:49,280 --> 01:51:51,680
value of the cash amount

3179
01:51:51,680 --> 01:51:53,240
>> And we still have pledges up and above

3180
01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:55,160
that.

3181
01:51:55,160 --> 01:51:56,680
>> Okay, um,

3182
01:51:56,680 --> 01:51:59,600
another thing is on June 30th I don't I

3183
01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:01,520
just want to make sure I might not make

3184
01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:03,040
it to the meeting in person. I don't

3185
01:52:03,040 --> 01:52:04,680
know if we have to notice that. If we

3186
01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:06,440
want to notice that for me to be remote,

3187
01:52:06,440 --> 01:52:08,640
I can send a follow-up email after this.

3188
01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:10,280
I'll try to make it but I'm going to be

3189
01:52:10,280 --> 01:52:12,200
coming from somewhere so I don't want to

3190
01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:14,840
hold that up.

3191
01:52:14,840 --> 01:52:18,360
We had a Chamber of Commerce

3192
01:52:18,360 --> 01:52:20,360
board meeting this morning.

3193
01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:22,560
They're interested in using the

3194
01:52:22,560 --> 01:52:24,080
multi-purpose room City Hall for the

3195
01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:25,200
gala

3196
01:52:25,200 --> 01:52:26,720
in February again.

3197
01:52:26,720 --> 01:52:28,560
They liked the idea of switching off

3198
01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:30,720
every other year like maybe in Payson

3199
01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:32,200
and one in Santaquin.

3200
01:52:32,200 --> 01:52:34,200
I can send a follow-up email. Do you

3201
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:36,040
want me to work with you, Norm? That

3202
01:52:36,040 --> 01:52:37,440
would be

3203
01:52:37,440 --> 01:52:40,520
earliest Thursday in February

3204
01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:44,200
that the basically be from what like

3205
01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:47,160
1 or or 3:00 p.m. to the evening similar

3206
01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:48,520
to last year.

3207
01:52:48,520 --> 01:52:50,800
the 2 years ago.

3208
01:52:50,800 --> 01:52:52,920
And that stage would come in handy

3209
01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:55,360
because it is that was something that I

3210
01:52:55,360 --> 01:52:56,600
said I was like it's kind of weird when

3211
01:52:56,600 --> 01:52:59,080
we have events and you can't really see

3212
01:52:59,080 --> 01:53:00,840
>> Third Thursday in February be the fourth

3213
01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:01,960
or the 11th.

3214
01:53:01,960 --> 01:53:04,800
>> Fourth or the 11th? Oh yeah, because of

3215
01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:06,440
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That's very

3216
01:53:06,440 --> 01:53:08,600
helpful.

3217
01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:11,360
Um no seniors, right?

3218
01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:13,120
Or or what it That is that what you're

3219
01:53:13,120 --> 01:53:13,840
saying?

3220
01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:16,120
>> No, you I just set you on a day.

3221
01:53:16,120 --> 01:53:16,640
>> Okay, okay.

3222
01:53:16,640 --> 01:53:17,120
>> February 4th.

3223
01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:18,960
>> But isn't seniors, when does that end?

3224
01:53:18,960 --> 01:53:20,440
>> It's Tuesdays and Thursdays.

3225
01:53:20,440 --> 01:53:21,400
>> What Do you know what time?

3226
01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:22,920
>> They only take this Oh, they they're

3227
01:53:22,920 --> 01:53:24,640
usually done by about 4:00, so that

3228
01:53:24,640 --> 01:53:26,120
might not be enough time on a Thursday.

3229
01:53:26,120 --> 01:53:27,880
>> Cuz I I don't want to I don't want to

3230
01:53:27,880 --> 01:53:30,040
create enemies. Um

3231
01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:31,600
Well, I know that there's routines

3232
01:53:31,600 --> 01:53:34,590
there. Um

3233
01:53:34,600 --> 01:53:35,120
Okay.

3234
01:53:35,120 --> 01:53:36,960
>> You do You do bring up seniors, so

3235
01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:40,280
senior citizens lunches will discontinue

3236
01:53:40,280 --> 01:53:42,360
for the months of July. That's correct.

3237
01:53:42,360 --> 01:53:44,280
>> That's good to know.

3238
01:53:44,280 --> 01:53:46,600
Um

3239
01:53:46,600 --> 01:53:50,040
And then the last thing is is I gave to

3240
01:53:50,040 --> 01:53:54,960
every council member a draft of a memo.

3241
01:53:54,960 --> 01:53:57,040
I wanted to create the least amount of

3242
01:53:57,040 --> 01:53:58,920
work for city staff.

3243
01:53:58,920 --> 01:54:00,320
Um

3244
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:02,520
and a proposed resolution

3245
01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:06,160
um and a Q&A that has some questions and

3246
01:54:06,160 --> 01:54:07,880
answers about that.

3247
01:54:07,880 --> 01:54:09,160
I was hoping to talk about it during the

3248
01:54:09,160 --> 01:54:10,360
work session, but I realized there's a

3249
01:54:10,360 --> 01:54:13,560
lot more important things um to do.

3250
01:54:13,560 --> 01:54:15,080
Um

3251
01:54:15,080 --> 01:54:17,200
I emailed it to Norm and Mayor. Norm

3252
01:54:17,200 --> 01:54:18,680
gave a lot of great feedback, some

3253
01:54:18,680 --> 01:54:21,840
concerns around turnaround time, um

3254
01:54:21,840 --> 01:54:23,440
different things.

3255
01:54:23,440 --> 01:54:28,640
Um essentially what this resolution is is it stems from

3256
01:54:28,640 --> 01:54:31,000
one was inspired when I went over the

3257
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:32,760
expenses

3258
01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:34,920
that I was noticing that we could save.

3259
01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:36,760
Um

3260
01:54:36,760 --> 01:54:38,120
And Mayor said

3261
01:54:38,120 --> 01:54:39,720
well, not all of us can do that, like

3262
01:54:39,720 --> 01:54:41,760
parse through all that stuff.

3263
01:54:41,760 --> 01:54:43,440
And I was like, well, yeah, because it

3264
01:54:43,440 --> 01:54:45,600
took me such a long time because what I

3265
01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:48,880
did is I took city council meeting

3266
01:54:48,880 --> 01:54:50,800
agenda packets

3267
01:54:50,800 --> 01:54:53,240
and parsed all of our check register

3268
01:54:53,240 --> 01:54:56,080
stuff into an Excel document and then

3269
01:54:56,080 --> 01:54:59,680
ran it through an analysis because part

3270
01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:02,640
running PDFs through an analysis through

3271
01:55:02,640 --> 01:55:05,000
like analysis software

3272
01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:07,160
and even AI is like more difficult and

3273
01:55:07,160 --> 01:55:09,680
so running through like a table format

3274
01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:12,080
allows it to process it a lot better.

3275
01:55:12,080 --> 01:55:13,760
Um

3276
01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:15,600
and I realized, you know,

3277
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:18,680
and and I want to be very clear

3278
01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:20,240
uh about this.

3279
01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:22,200
Norm has been extremely helpful in

3280
01:55:22,200 --> 01:55:24,080
helping me get a lot of things that I

3281
01:55:24,080 --> 01:55:26,440
asked. I'm very inquisitive and I ask a

3282
01:55:26,440 --> 01:55:28,000
lot of things.

3283
01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:32,840
A while back, I did ask about getting

3284
01:55:32,840 --> 01:55:35,080
to Norm about getting

3285
01:55:35,080 --> 01:55:37,560
the check register for a whole year.

3286
01:55:37,560 --> 01:55:39,000
That was something that there was a

3287
01:55:39,000 --> 01:55:43,920
little bit of pushback and and I I'm want to say Norm makes his

3288
01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:45,360
best effort

3289
01:55:45,360 --> 01:55:46,560
to help me with these things, but I

3290
01:55:46,560 --> 01:55:48,920
think that there's unclear expectations

3291
01:55:48,920 --> 01:55:51,320
and there's not accountability on my end

3292
01:55:51,320 --> 01:55:54,120
on our end or on their end in in a

3293
01:55:54,120 --> 01:55:56,640
formal process of, "Hey, how do we go

3294
01:55:56,640 --> 01:55:59,040
about as city council members requesting

3295
01:55:59,040 --> 01:56:01,880
documents?" I realized that

3296
01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:04,600
it was literally just like one-off calls

3297
01:56:04,600 --> 01:56:06,960
to Norm while he's doing a million other

3298
01:56:06,960 --> 01:56:10,000
things and he's having to juggle that.

3299
01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:13,000
And then, you know, it's like, "Well,

3300
01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:14,680
should I talk with Brett about whether I

3301
01:56:14,680 --> 01:56:16,720
can legally give that to you or not?"

3302
01:56:16,720 --> 01:56:18,840
There were other instances where I asked

3303
01:56:18,840 --> 01:56:21,080
for audio recordings of meetings and was

3304
01:56:21,080 --> 01:56:24,120
directed to do a grammar request. And I

3305
01:56:24,120 --> 01:56:26,040
think everyone's trying to do the best

3306
01:56:26,040 --> 01:56:28,560
thing that they that they should do.

3307
01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:30,000
Um but I think that there's unclear

3308
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:32,600
expectations and for us as city council

3309
01:56:32,600 --> 01:56:35,200
members to be able to do our jobs

3310
01:56:35,200 --> 01:56:37,680
the grammar request process, one, is

3311
01:56:37,680 --> 01:56:40,840
meant for the public, not for us.

3312
01:56:40,840 --> 01:56:42,840
And and two

3313
01:56:42,840 --> 01:56:45,640
I think that there there that we need to

3314
01:56:45,640 --> 01:56:48,080
have access to things such as check

3315
01:56:48,080 --> 01:56:50,880
registers in an easy digestible format

3316
01:56:50,880 --> 01:56:52,800
for us to make the best decisions.

3317
01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:54,000
There's a lot of other things, you know,

3318
01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:56,000
I met with

3319
01:56:56,000 --> 01:56:58,360
um

3320
01:56:58,360 --> 01:57:02,440
uh Chief Land about uh stats on EMS and

3321
01:57:02,440 --> 01:57:04,000
he was able to quickly pull that up for

3322
01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:04,880
me.

3323
01:57:04,880 --> 01:57:07,920
Um and and so I and and I make a lot of

3324
01:57:07,920 --> 01:57:10,200
one-off requests, you know, like I asked

3325
01:57:10,200 --> 01:57:11,880
Chief Hurst about some stuff about

3326
01:57:11,880 --> 01:57:13,760
quotes and different things and I think

3327
01:57:13,760 --> 01:57:16,560
that there should be probably a formal

3328
01:57:16,560 --> 01:57:19,080
process for that, which is

3329
01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:22,480
what this does is it essentially

3330
01:57:22,480 --> 01:57:23,880
says, "Hey, if we're a council member

3331
01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:26,680
and we want information from staff, we

3332
01:57:26,680 --> 01:57:28,800
have to put in writing certain things."

3333
01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:31,720
And it's one, the name of the requesting

3334
01:57:31,720 --> 01:57:34,360
council member, the date of our request,

3335
01:57:34,360 --> 01:57:35,960
and then a specific description of the

3336
01:57:35,960 --> 01:57:39,000
information or files requested.

3337
01:57:39,000 --> 01:57:40,880
And then why?

3338
01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:42,720
Um so there's a paper trail because I

3339
01:57:42,720 --> 01:57:45,680
don't think it's appropriate for council

3340
01:57:45,680 --> 01:57:48,520
members to create too much burden for

3341
01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:49,840
our staff

3342
01:57:49,840 --> 01:57:51,120
for no reason.

3343
01:57:51,120 --> 01:57:52,600
Um

3344
01:57:52,600 --> 01:57:54,400
and that gives staff a reason to say,

3345
01:57:54,400 --> 01:57:56,800
"Hey, this is not

3346
01:57:56,800 --> 01:57:58,120
you like you're asking all the wrong

3347
01:57:58,120 --> 01:57:59,560
things. I think you should actually want

3348
01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:02,520
this." Or or even call out what I don't

3349
01:58:02,520 --> 01:58:03,680
think would happen for many of our

3350
01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:07,200
council members is like a harassment via

3351
01:58:07,200 --> 01:58:09,600
so many requests.

3352
01:58:09,600 --> 01:58:11,320
And then what that does

3353
01:58:11,320 --> 01:58:12,880
is then

3354
01:58:12,880 --> 01:58:14,840
whoever it is, whether it's the city

3355
01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:17,360
manager, the city recorder,

3356
01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:19,280
or department head, they have two

3357
01:58:19,280 --> 01:58:20,920
business days to be able to get back to

3358
01:58:20,920 --> 01:58:24,280
you and say, "Hey, here this is or I

3359
01:58:24,280 --> 01:58:25,640
can't get this to you within two

3360
01:58:25,640 --> 01:58:26,880
business days. Maybe there's a million

3361
01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:28,280
other things going on like there always

3362
01:58:28,280 --> 01:58:30,520
is." And they can just come back and set

3363
01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:32,120
any reasonable timeline. So in that

3364
01:58:32,120 --> 01:58:34,000
resolution,

3365
01:58:34,000 --> 01:58:35,760
it accounts for

3366
01:58:35,760 --> 01:58:38,640
leave, out of office staff is

3367
01:58:38,640 --> 01:58:40,960
limited staff bandwidth. So if I were to

3368
01:58:40,960 --> 01:58:42,920
request a check register and say

3369
01:58:42,920 --> 01:58:45,480
Shannon's gone for the next month,

3370
01:58:45,480 --> 01:58:47,760
it could literally just be, "Hey,

3371
01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:49,640
we'll get you that in two months. That's

3372
01:58:49,640 --> 01:58:51,320
the most reasonable thing." And it's in

3373
01:58:51,320 --> 01:58:53,360
writing so that everybody's accountable,

3374
01:58:53,360 --> 01:58:55,240
and there's there's those clear

3375
01:58:55,240 --> 01:58:58,240
expectations. Or, "Hey, you know, we're

3376
01:58:58,240 --> 01:59:00,200
getting the budget made. Ryan, I can't

3377
01:59:00,200 --> 01:59:01,840
really get you that report tomorrow

3378
01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:02,800
because there's a bunch of other

3379
01:59:02,800 --> 01:59:04,800
pressing issues.

3380
01:59:04,800 --> 01:59:06,360
This is the timeline that I can get it

3381
01:59:06,360 --> 01:59:08,000
for you. Is that okay?"

3382
01:59:08,000 --> 01:59:09,400
And everything's in writing, and that

3383
01:59:09,400 --> 01:59:10,800
way we're accountable, there's clear

3384
01:59:10,800 --> 01:59:12,320
expectations.

3385
01:59:12,320 --> 01:59:14,320
Um

3386
01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:17,560
and and and then the the the last part

3387
01:59:17,560 --> 01:59:20,760
about this resolution is

3388
01:59:20,760 --> 01:59:21,880
um

3389
01:59:21,880 --> 01:59:23,800
PDFs are great, but it's really hard to

3390
01:59:23,800 --> 01:59:25,680
navigate PDFs. If anyone's done like any

3391
01:59:25,680 --> 01:59:28,640
budgeting um or anything, being able to

3392
01:59:28,640 --> 01:59:30,600
use Excel and quickly filter, run

3393
01:59:30,600 --> 01:59:32,920
analysis, do formulas, that's way

3394
01:59:32,920 --> 01:59:35,840
easier. And so, if there are documents

3395
01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:37,960
that have originated I mean, no document

3396
01:59:37,960 --> 01:59:40,280
originates as a PDF, to be quite frank.

3397
01:59:40,280 --> 01:59:41,920
That's just like a final version of a

3398
01:59:41,920 --> 01:59:43,320
document.

3399
01:59:43,320 --> 01:59:46,320
If there are documents that have started

3400
01:59:46,320 --> 01:59:47,760
out as an Excel document, like for

3401
01:59:47,760 --> 01:59:49,760
example, if I were to say I wanted the

3402
01:59:49,760 --> 01:59:52,680
schedule for this new building,

3403
01:59:52,680 --> 01:59:54,600
rather than export it as a PDF and send

3404
01:59:54,600 --> 01:59:56,640
it to me, what if I could just get that

3405
01:59:56,640 --> 01:59:58,520
as an Excel document, and I could

3406
01:59:58,520 --> 02:00:00,240
analyze that and quickly be able to make

3407
02:00:00,240 --> 02:00:02,360
the right decisions that I need to

3408
02:00:02,360 --> 02:00:05,360
as an elected official.

3409
02:00:05,360 --> 02:00:07,520
So, it sets that expectation that if

3410
02:00:07,520 --> 02:00:10,000
there are those files, that those are

3411
02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:12,360
the ones that should be provided.

3412
02:00:12,360 --> 02:00:14,440
Um and I think that's like obviously a

3413
02:00:14,440 --> 02:00:16,320
given. Um

3414
02:00:16,320 --> 02:00:19,120
I asked Norm the other day for the copy

3415
02:00:19,120 --> 02:00:21,840
of the tentative and the final. Um and

3416
02:00:21,840 --> 02:00:23,400
he got them to me in Excel documents,

3417
02:00:23,400 --> 02:00:24,720
and that was super great because I was

3418
02:00:24,720 --> 02:00:25,840
able to

3419
02:00:25,840 --> 02:00:28,360
what Shannon just did for us is I was

3420
02:00:28,360 --> 02:00:31,080
able to just quick run a diff, a diff

3421
02:00:31,080 --> 02:00:32,920
finding what's different, and quickly

3422
02:00:32,920 --> 02:00:34,520
see. And so,

3423
02:00:34,520 --> 02:00:35,840
I mean, Shannon beat me. I didn't even

3424
02:00:35,840 --> 02:00:37,240
ask any questions because she went

3425
02:00:37,240 --> 02:00:39,320
through that already.

3426
02:00:39,320 --> 02:00:41,080
And so, all the questions that I had

3427
02:00:41,080 --> 02:00:42,880
listed down of what's the difference

3428
02:00:42,880 --> 02:00:45,160
between this, she answered. And so, that

3429
02:00:45,160 --> 02:00:46,760
was super helpful what Norm did for me

3430
02:00:46,760 --> 02:00:49,320
because that allowed me to come prepared

3431
02:00:49,320 --> 02:00:51,760
to city council with questions rather

3432
02:00:51,760 --> 02:00:52,640
than

3433
02:00:52,640 --> 02:00:54,680
analyze this document or just work off a

3434
02:00:54,680 --> 02:00:56,040
PDF

3435
02:00:56,040 --> 02:00:57,720
and then within 5 minutes have to

3436
02:00:57,720 --> 02:00:59,120
approve that. I don't think our

3437
02:00:59,120 --> 02:01:01,200
residents expect that of us

3438
02:01:01,200 --> 02:01:03,640
or is that reasonable?

3439
02:01:03,640 --> 02:01:05,360
Um and then

3440
02:01:05,360 --> 02:01:07,280
um there's a one other thing which is

3441
02:01:07,280 --> 02:01:08,960
just like the protection of confidential

3442
02:01:08,960 --> 02:01:11,160
data. That's just setting like a clear

3443
02:01:11,160 --> 02:01:14,000
expectation that like yeah, if there are

3444
02:01:14,000 --> 02:01:17,160
documents that shouldn't be disclosed to

3445
02:01:17,160 --> 02:01:19,440
city council that there are exceptions.

3446
02:01:19,440 --> 02:01:21,000
Like no, I'm not going to give you that

3447
02:01:21,000 --> 02:01:23,320
document or oh hey, you can come to my

3448
02:01:23,320 --> 02:01:25,000
office and look at that on the computer,

3449
02:01:25,000 --> 02:01:26,440
but we don't want to create a bunch of

3450
02:01:26,440 --> 02:01:28,200
random files out there

3451
02:01:28,200 --> 02:01:30,400
for it to be you know, shared in an

3452
02:01:30,400 --> 02:01:31,760
inappropriate way because there are

3453
02:01:31,760 --> 02:01:34,360
documents that are protected or private

3454
02:01:34,360 --> 02:01:37,320
under the law and that's okay. Um

3455
02:01:37,320 --> 02:01:39,680
but it sets a clear of hey, if that is

3456
02:01:39,680 --> 02:01:42,160
the case then city staff would tell you

3457
02:01:42,160 --> 02:01:43,480
hey, that's the case and that's in

3458
02:01:43,480 --> 02:01:45,280
writing. And I think that it creates

3459
02:01:45,280 --> 02:01:47,000
accountability both for elected

3460
02:01:47,000 --> 02:01:49,320
officials, but also for city staff to be

3461
02:01:49,320 --> 02:01:51,000
able to keep us accountable, but also

3462
02:01:51,000 --> 02:01:53,480
create a process so that Norm or city

3463
02:01:53,480 --> 02:01:56,520
recorder or any department head isn't

3464
02:01:56,520 --> 02:01:59,920
overly burdened by any questions that we

3465
02:01:59,920 --> 02:02:00,920
have.

3466
02:02:00,920 --> 02:02:03,000
Um

3467
02:02:03,000 --> 02:02:04,680
but um

3468
02:02:04,680 --> 02:02:06,560
if there's any questions, feel free to

3469
02:02:06,560 --> 02:02:09,720
ask me. I've tried to put together a Q&A

3470
02:02:09,720 --> 02:02:11,200
document

3471
02:02:11,200 --> 02:02:13,360
that talks about maybe some concerns

3472
02:02:13,360 --> 02:02:15,240
that you might have.

3473
02:02:15,240 --> 02:02:17,120
Um

3474
02:02:17,120 --> 02:02:18,240
such as

3475
02:02:18,240 --> 02:02:20,080
like how does this benefit me? This is

3476
02:02:20,080 --> 02:02:21,600
geared towards residents, but like how

3477
02:02:21,600 --> 02:02:24,600
does this benefit me? What does this do?

3478
02:02:24,600 --> 02:02:27,000
Um will this place a heavy burden on

3479
02:02:27,000 --> 02:02:29,160
city staff or cost money?

3480
02:02:29,160 --> 02:02:30,960
Um and in that specific case is the

3481
02:02:30,960 --> 02:02:32,440
processing of a formal GRAMA request

3482
02:02:32,440 --> 02:02:33,440
takes a significant amount of

3483
02:02:33,440 --> 02:02:35,000
administrative time.

3484
02:02:35,000 --> 02:02:37,360
And so this actually in my opinion

3485
02:02:37,360 --> 02:02:39,960
eliminates paperwork that's not needed.

3486
02:02:39,960 --> 02:02:43,760
Um Um, I'm not saying like I think that it's appropriate for

3487
02:02:43,760 --> 02:02:45,280
the public to use grammar and it's

3488
02:02:45,280 --> 02:02:48,280
appropriate in those ways, but I I think

3489
02:02:48,280 --> 02:02:49,840
that as elected officials setting those

3490
02:02:49,840 --> 02:02:51,400
clear expectations because it's

3491
02:02:51,400 --> 02:02:52,800
difficult for any department head or

3492
02:02:52,800 --> 02:02:55,160
norm to know how to handle that without

3493
02:02:55,160 --> 02:02:58,080
clear expectations of how do I handle

3494
02:02:58,080 --> 02:03:01,560
this request and and what's allowed. Um,

3495
02:03:01,560 --> 02:03:03,240
and I think this sets up not just

3496
02:03:03,240 --> 02:03:06,080
beneficial for the current council, but

3497
02:03:06,080 --> 02:03:07,320
I'm not going to be here forever and

3498
02:03:07,320 --> 02:03:09,160
neither of us hopefully. I mean,

3499
02:03:09,160 --> 02:03:10,960
hopefully we get a break from this that

3500
02:03:10,960 --> 02:03:16,200
it sets that expectation and while I would love for Norm to be

3501
02:03:16,200 --> 02:03:19,240
here forever and most of almost all of

3502
02:03:19,240 --> 02:03:20,400
our department heads all of our

3503
02:03:20,400 --> 02:03:21,920
department heads to be here for a long

3504
02:03:21,920 --> 02:03:22,880
time,

3505
02:03:22,880 --> 02:03:24,200
they're going to change too and so I

3506
02:03:24,200 --> 02:03:26,200
think that this resolution establishes

3507
02:03:26,200 --> 02:03:27,640
that.

3508
02:03:27,640 --> 02:03:28,920
Um,

3509
02:03:28,920 --> 02:03:31,320
state law allows for

3510
02:03:31,320 --> 02:03:32,920
uh

3511
02:03:32,920 --> 02:03:35,080
cities to establish their own internal

3512
02:03:35,080 --> 02:03:37,360
records access policies and so that's

3513
02:03:37,360 --> 02:03:39,000
what this is doing. Is it's just setting

3514
02:03:39,000 --> 02:03:41,360
things clear expectations.

3515
02:03:41,360 --> 02:03:43,360
Um, but if there are any concerns or

3516
02:03:43,360 --> 02:03:44,840
questions,

3517
02:03:44,840 --> 02:03:47,640
please reach out to me. Um, is this

3518
02:03:47,640 --> 02:03:49,760
possible to get this on the next

3519
02:03:49,760 --> 02:03:52,240
uh mayor the next regular session?

3520
02:03:52,240 --> 02:03:53,840
>> want to look at it and we'll probably

3521
02:03:53,840 --> 02:03:56,000
put it on a work session.

3522
02:03:56,000 --> 02:03:58,240
>> It would it be able to be I mean, given

3523
02:03:58,240 --> 02:04:00,440
that we have so much time,

3524
02:04:00,440 --> 02:04:02,320
could we not put it on for the regular

3525
02:04:02,320 --> 02:04:04,240
session? I mean, the council can choose

3526
02:04:04,240 --> 02:04:06,440
to accept or not accept it, but at least

3527
02:04:06,440 --> 02:04:07,640
it's there.

3528
02:04:07,640 --> 02:04:09,960
>> just took 15 minutes, which you said was

3529
02:04:09,960 --> 02:04:12,120
only going to be a minute. So,

3530
02:04:12,120 --> 02:04:14,640
I I'm worried about time.

3531
02:04:14,640 --> 02:04:16,640
>> Yeah, well well, I mean, now everybody

3532
02:04:16,640 --> 02:04:18,680
has all of these documents.

3533
02:04:18,680 --> 02:04:20,560
I've provided them to Norm. I provided

3534
02:04:20,560 --> 02:04:23,600
them to you for multiple days.

3535
02:04:23,600 --> 02:04:25,640
I think that this should be enough time

3536
02:04:25,640 --> 02:04:27,880
that in the meantime if council members

3537
02:04:27,880 --> 02:04:29,880
want to ask me questions

3538
02:04:29,880 --> 02:04:31,320
that

3539
02:04:31,320 --> 02:04:32,920
and and we'll have a work session where

3540
02:04:32,920 --> 02:04:35,720
we talk about agenda items that we could

3541
02:04:35,720 --> 02:04:37,800
still just vote on it

3542
02:04:37,800 --> 02:04:42,680
in the next regular session. And if And if the council says, "Hey, actually

3543
02:04:42,680 --> 02:04:43,800
that wasn't enough time." then we can

3544
02:04:43,800 --> 02:04:45,480
table it, but at least there's the

3545
02:04:45,480 --> 02:04:47,400
option there, is what I'm saying.

3546
02:04:47,400 --> 02:04:49,800
>> So, we can look at it. I think, you

3547
02:04:49,800 --> 02:04:50,680
know, [clears throat] I want to get a

3548
02:04:50,680 --> 02:04:52,600
little feedback from everybody and

3549
02:04:52,600 --> 02:04:54,240
they'll have a chance to look down

3550
02:04:54,240 --> 02:04:57,000
through this, too, and see what what it

3551
02:04:57,000 --> 02:04:58,400
means to them.

3552
02:04:58,400 --> 02:04:59,840
I don't think there's anybody worried

3553
02:04:59,840 --> 02:05:01,800
about getting you the information that

3554
02:05:01,800 --> 02:05:04,240
you want and

3555
02:05:04,240 --> 02:05:06,480
it may sound even worse than it really

3556
02:05:06,480 --> 02:05:07,960
is. So,

3557
02:05:07,960 --> 02:05:08,640
uh

3558
02:05:08,640 --> 02:05:10,640
it's it's just a matter of we doing it

3559
02:05:10,640 --> 02:05:12,840
all correct and is there anything we

3560
02:05:12,840 --> 02:05:14,280
want to adjust?

3561
02:05:14,280 --> 02:05:16,520
>> Well, I mean, I guess

3562
02:05:16,520 --> 02:05:19,240
why can't it be on the session to be

3563
02:05:19,240 --> 02:05:21,680
voted on?

3564
02:05:21,680 --> 02:05:23,880
Like that that's what we do is is things

3565
02:05:23,880 --> 02:05:25,920
get put up for that and then

3566
02:05:25,920 --> 02:05:29,640
we decide like I I I don't see why

3567
02:05:29,640 --> 02:05:32,840
we can't have it for a vote.

3568
02:05:32,840 --> 02:05:34,640
Like it to be able to be voted on,

3569
02:05:34,640 --> 02:05:37,480
whether it's accepted, denied,

3570
02:05:37,480 --> 02:05:40,990
or tabled.

3571
02:05:41,000 --> 02:05:42,800
Cuz then it is on the agenda and we do

3572
02:05:42,800 --> 02:05:45,280
have the right to talk about it. That's

3573
02:05:45,280 --> 02:05:46,800
why That's why I want like

3574
02:05:46,800 --> 02:05:49,560
>> a problem a problem with that. I just

3575
02:05:49,560 --> 02:05:52,080
hadn't looked at it or thought about it,

3576
02:05:52,080 --> 02:05:53,200
you know.

3577
02:05:53,200 --> 02:05:56,040
Do I Do we need to have it on there to

3578
02:05:56,040 --> 02:05:57,800
vote or do we want to talk about it in

3579
02:05:57,800 --> 02:06:01,120
the meeting in the meeting and

3580
02:06:01,120 --> 02:06:04,280
But if you want it on that agenda

3581
02:06:04,280 --> 02:06:06,880
and and that's the way it has to be to

3582
02:06:06,880 --> 02:06:09,320
make you happy?

3583
02:06:09,320 --> 02:06:10,760
>> Well, that's why That's what I'm That's

3584
02:06:10,760 --> 02:06:14,600
what I'm That is what I'm requesting is that it can be even like a discuss

3585
02:06:14,600 --> 02:06:16,840
and possible action type of thing.

3586
02:06:16,840 --> 02:06:20,480
Like we have that for the rap tax and different things

3587
02:06:20,480 --> 02:06:22,200
like those things haven't necessarily

3588
02:06:22,200 --> 02:06:25,280
been looked at well in advance, but

3589
02:06:25,280 --> 02:06:27,160
like I feel like it's been like common

3590
02:06:27,160 --> 02:06:29,040
practice to say, "Hey, here's this

3591
02:06:29,040 --> 02:06:30,960
thing. We can discuss and there's

3592
02:06:30,960 --> 02:06:34,120
possible action, but it doesn't

3593
02:06:34,120 --> 02:06:36,400
like and and and we've tabled stuff

3594
02:06:36,400 --> 02:06:38,160
before, too.

3595
02:06:38,160 --> 02:06:44,870
So, I mean, I don't know

3596
02:06:44,880 --> 02:06:46,160
like why we would delay putting it on

3597
02:06:46,160 --> 02:06:48,480
the regular session agenda

3598
02:06:48,480 --> 02:06:50,560
if there's an ability to table it and to

3599
02:06:50,560 --> 02:06:55,630
discuss it and delay it if if we wanted.

3600
02:06:55,640 --> 02:06:57,600
» Does everybody want to discuss it at a

3601
02:06:57,600 --> 02:06:58,200
meeting?

3602
02:06:58,200 --> 02:06:59,080
>> to discuss it.

3603
02:06:59,080 --> 02:06:59,480
>> Pardon?

3604
02:06:59,480 --> 02:07:00,880
>> I'd like to discuss it.

3605
02:07:00,880 --> 02:07:02,800
>> You want it in a regular council?

3606
02:07:02,800 --> 02:07:04,360
>> I think we should discuss it in a work

3607
02:07:04,360 --> 02:07:07,590
session.

3608
02:07:07,600 --> 02:07:09,760
» There's a work session.

3609
02:07:09,760 --> 02:07:12,137
Then?

3610
02:07:12,147 --> 02:07:12,240
» [clears throat]

3611
02:07:12,240 --> 02:07:13,720
>> Yeah, I'm not sure how Like I said, I

3612
02:07:13,720 --> 02:07:15,800
haven't had time to read through it or

3613
02:07:15,800 --> 02:07:20,240
talk about it, but I feel like we ought to talk about it as

3614
02:07:20,240 --> 02:07:22,160
a council first. I don't care if it's in

3615
02:07:22,160 --> 02:07:23,680
a council meeting or

3616
02:07:23,680 --> 02:07:24,800
work session, but I think we ought to

3617
02:07:24,800 --> 02:07:27,040
have a chance to talk about it.

3618
02:07:27,040 --> 02:07:28,640
Discuss it.

3619
02:07:28,640 --> 02:07:30,000
You have a feeling?

3620
02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:31,480
>> I'm okay either way, but if we put it on

3621
02:07:31,480 --> 02:07:33,280
the regular agenda, we can or the

3622
02:07:33,280 --> 02:07:35,520
regular regular meeting, we can still

3623
02:07:35,520 --> 02:07:36,920
talk about it work session beforehand.

3624
02:07:36,920 --> 02:07:38,600
We go through the agenda items anyways.

3625
02:07:38,600 --> 02:07:40,200
>> Sure.

3626
02:07:40,200 --> 02:07:41,160
>> All right.

3627
02:07:41,160 --> 02:07:43,480
>> I like what what um

3628
02:07:43,480 --> 02:07:44,480
he said.

3629
02:07:44,480 --> 02:07:46,520
>> Okay, so it'll be on the it'll be on the

3630
02:07:46,520 --> 02:07:48,960
work session while we just discuss it

3631
02:07:48,960 --> 02:07:49,680
>> It's been a long road.

3632
02:07:49,680 --> 02:07:51,160
>> briefly and then we'll put it on the

3633
02:07:51,160 --> 02:07:53,040
work session. Okay.

3634
02:07:53,040 --> 02:07:54,480
>> On the regular session or the work

3635
02:07:54,480 --> 02:07:54,760
session?

3636
02:07:54,760 --> 02:07:56,200
>> Or I mean, on the regular session.

3637
02:07:56,200 --> 02:07:58,240
>> Okay. Okay. Cuz just because it's on the

3638
02:07:58,240 --> 02:07:59,960
regular session doesn't mean that

3639
02:07:59,960 --> 02:08:02,280
council is supporting it or approving

3640
02:08:02,280 --> 02:08:03,680
it. It just means that it's up for

3641
02:08:03,680 --> 02:08:05,560
consideration. That's all.

3642
02:08:05,560 --> 02:08:06,680
>> That's

3643
02:08:06,680 --> 02:08:07,440
>> Okay.

3644
02:08:07,440 --> 02:08:07,680
>> Yeah.

3645
02:08:07,680 --> 02:08:08,520
>> Thanks.

3646
02:08:08,520 --> 02:08:10,400
Um

3647
02:08:10,400 --> 02:08:11,520
>> Your time's up.

3648
02:08:11,520 --> 02:08:13,280
>> I That was it.

3649
02:08:13,280 --> 02:08:15,800
Uh other than other than the it was a

3650
02:08:15,800 --> 02:08:18,640
great uh Hometown Market

3651
02:08:18,640 --> 02:08:21,560
and um city staff did an amazing job and

3652
02:08:21,560 --> 02:08:25,120
the chamber did amazing job. Um and so,

3653
02:08:25,120 --> 02:08:27,560
I'm really I I'm really optimistic about

3654
02:08:27,560 --> 02:08:29,840
where things are going with that.

3655
02:08:29,840 --> 02:08:30,920
That's it.

3656
02:08:30,920 --> 02:08:33,240
>> Okay, I've got uh few things I need to

3657
02:08:33,240 --> 02:08:35,240
go over. Um

3658
02:08:35,240 --> 02:08:38,240
Jake, thank you for being here today.

3659
02:08:38,240 --> 02:08:39,120
Um

3660
02:08:39,120 --> 02:08:41,080
Jake [clears throat] met with me uh

3661
02:08:41,080 --> 02:08:45,840
about a month ago and we went through uh

3662
02:08:45,840 --> 02:08:46,960
offer

3663
02:08:46,960 --> 02:08:48,640
that he had made. Now, I don't know how

3664
02:08:48,640 --> 02:08:50,680
deep I want to get into that offer right

3665
02:08:50,680 --> 02:08:51,880
now, but

3666
02:08:51,880 --> 02:08:54,080
Jake and his brother Joel

3667
02:08:54,080 --> 02:08:55,240
um

3668
02:08:55,240 --> 02:08:57,720
would like to help us with the

3669
02:08:57,720 --> 02:09:00,600
roof of the museum.

3670
02:09:00,600 --> 02:09:02,480
A substantial

3671
02:09:02,480 --> 02:09:05,000
uh donation to help us.

3672
02:09:05,000 --> 02:09:06,880
We need to worry about

3673
02:09:06,880 --> 02:09:07,440
uh

3674
02:09:07,440 --> 02:09:10,360
the rest of that money to help to cover

3675
02:09:10,360 --> 02:09:14,480
that and I've kind of been holding off

3676
02:09:14,480 --> 02:09:16,200
because we need to have a long

3677
02:09:16,200 --> 02:09:20,080
discussion about the bats are back.

3678
02:09:20,080 --> 02:09:23,360
And so, there's $18,000 that we need for

3679
02:09:23,360 --> 02:09:24,720
the bats.

3680
02:09:24,720 --> 02:09:28,840
Um the boiler has gone down. Jason, what

3681
02:09:28,840 --> 02:09:31,000
were your feelings on that boiler and

3682
02:09:31,000 --> 02:09:33,400
the pipes associated?

3683
02:09:33,400 --> 02:09:36,080
>> You mean the series of Band-Aids?

3684
02:09:36,080 --> 02:09:38,600
>> Band-Aids on pipes?

3685
02:09:38,600 --> 02:09:42,000
>> The boiler's relatively well. It's It's

3686
02:09:42,000 --> 02:09:43,920
It was put in the year before I hired

3687
02:09:43,920 --> 02:09:46,840
here, so it's 28 years old.

3688
02:09:46,840 --> 02:09:49,320
So, but the pipes in there are even

3689
02:09:49,320 --> 02:09:51,680
older than that. They're They're and

3690
02:09:51,680 --> 02:09:53,400
they've just sat there in the crawl

3691
02:09:53,400 --> 02:09:55,200
space and they're starting to rust out

3692
02:09:55,200 --> 02:09:57,360
and we've had multiple issues the last

3693
02:09:57,360 --> 02:09:59,440
couple years trying to get in there and

3694
02:09:59,440 --> 02:10:01,600
repair pipes and

3695
02:10:01,600 --> 02:10:04,880
it's uh it's the quite the process to to

3696
02:10:04,880 --> 02:10:07,040
get in there and and the the plumbing

3697
02:10:07,040 --> 02:10:08,520
needs to be

3698
02:10:08,520 --> 02:10:11,600
changed. We need up update it.

3699
02:10:11,600 --> 02:10:14,920
>> So, there's a substantial amount to uh

3700
02:10:14,920 --> 02:10:16,680
come up with that, too?

3701
02:10:16,680 --> 02:10:18,680
>> Yeah. Yeah, it's it's it's quite a bit

3702
02:10:18,680 --> 02:10:20,280
of money. I think it was right around It

3703
02:10:20,280 --> 02:10:23,520
was 100 100 and thousand dollars to to

3704
02:10:23,520 --> 02:10:24,240
do that.

3705
02:10:24,240 --> 02:10:27,600
>> Something to keep it going. So

3706
02:10:27,600 --> 02:10:29,280
you know, there's one other issue and

3707
02:10:29,280 --> 02:10:31,520
that was in the budget for this year. We

3708
02:10:31,520 --> 02:10:33,560
had money to put an elevator in and

3709
02:10:33,560 --> 02:10:34,800
that's what we want to do with

3710
02:10:34,800 --> 02:10:36,440
>> A fire escape not an elevator.

3711
02:10:36,440 --> 02:10:38,040
>> Fire escape. [laughter]

3712
02:10:38,040 --> 02:10:39,640
I would rather have the elevator and

3713
02:10:39,640 --> 02:10:40,560
then we're ADA.

3714
02:10:40,560 --> 02:10:42,120
>> but they're about three times as much.

3715
02:10:42,120 --> 02:10:45,320
>> Yeah.

3716
02:10:45,320 --> 02:10:49,200
But there's still a bit of money to be spent on it. We

3717
02:10:49,200 --> 02:10:52,160
need a discussion so that the Caster

3718
02:10:52,160 --> 02:10:56,240
family will know what we want to do.

3719
02:10:56,240 --> 02:10:57,400
And

3720
02:10:57,400 --> 02:10:59,400
um

3721
02:10:59,400 --> 02:11:01,760
how we can look at

3722
02:11:01,760 --> 02:11:03,720
keeping that thing alive.

3723
02:11:03,720 --> 02:11:07,320
You know, if if we don't pour some

3724
02:11:07,320 --> 02:11:09,680
serious money into this

3725
02:11:09,680 --> 02:11:12,560
and grateful for the Casters even

3726
02:11:12,560 --> 02:11:14,480
considering what they can do for the

3727
02:11:14,480 --> 02:11:16,080
city because

3728
02:11:16,080 --> 02:11:19,120
they're a family of service and

3729
02:11:19,120 --> 02:11:22,080
you know, you've always stepped up and I

3730
02:11:22,080 --> 02:11:25,280
appreciate that very much, Jake. And

3731
02:11:25,280 --> 02:11:27,080
I'm sorry I haven't given you back an

3732
02:11:27,080 --> 02:11:29,120
answer because every time I turn around

3733
02:11:29,120 --> 02:11:31,040
and start talking about the museum,

3734
02:11:31,040 --> 02:11:33,680
another issue comes up. And I didn't

3735
02:11:33,680 --> 02:11:36,280
even know the bats were back at the at

3736
02:11:36,280 --> 02:11:38,800
the time. Uh I thought we

3737
02:11:38,800 --> 02:11:40,640
solved that, but every time you have to

3738
02:11:40,640 --> 02:11:43,040
pay another twenty thousand dollars to

3739
02:11:43,040 --> 02:11:46,440
take care of the bats you also have to

3740
02:11:46,440 --> 02:11:49,200
arrange it around when they've headed

3741
02:11:49,200 --> 02:11:53,120
off for their yearly head to the jungle. I don't

3742
02:11:53,120 --> 02:11:55,080
know. So

3743
02:11:55,080 --> 02:11:56,680
um

3744
02:11:56,680 --> 02:11:59,280
we'll get an answer soon and I think on

3745
02:11:59,280 --> 02:12:02,280
the next work session that's one more

3746
02:12:02,280 --> 02:12:04,880
thing I would like to put on there is

3747
02:12:04,880 --> 02:12:06,480
the museum

3748
02:12:06,480 --> 02:12:08,200
and talk about it, but I also have a

3749
02:12:08,200 --> 02:12:11,280
couple of other things, too. And

3750
02:12:11,280 --> 02:12:12,760
that is

3751
02:12:12,760 --> 02:12:14,880
I I would like to start in the next

3752
02:12:14,880 --> 02:12:17,440
month or two talking about what are we

3753
02:12:17,440 --> 02:12:19,600
going to do with the old library?

3754
02:12:19,600 --> 02:12:22,040
>> Mhm. And what can we make with that? And

3755
02:12:22,040 --> 02:12:24,160
how can we improve

3756
02:12:24,160 --> 02:12:26,520
life in Santaquin? Are Are there things

3757
02:12:26,520 --> 02:12:28,560
we haven't thought about?

3758
02:12:28,560 --> 02:12:32,120
And so, we need a discussion there.

3759
02:12:32,120 --> 02:12:33,320
Um

3760
02:12:33,320 --> 02:12:35,520
there's there's one other thing and it's

3761
02:12:35,520 --> 02:12:38,760
another family that lives in town has

3762
02:12:38,760 --> 02:12:40,200
given us

3763
02:12:40,200 --> 02:12:41,720
um

3764
02:12:41,720 --> 02:12:45,560
their log cabin, the Hudson family.

3765
02:12:45,560 --> 02:12:47,840
It's sitting now down at the public

3766
02:12:47,840 --> 02:12:50,800
works building and um

3767
02:12:50,800 --> 02:12:53,400
we need to figure out if we can

3768
02:12:53,400 --> 02:12:55,680
put it in a good place.

3769
02:12:55,680 --> 02:12:57,120
We've got a little bit of work that we

3770
02:12:57,120 --> 02:12:59,760
need to come up with. We've had people

3771
02:12:59,760 --> 02:13:02,240
that have offered money to help us with

3772
02:13:02,240 --> 02:13:03,800
that as well.

3773
02:13:03,800 --> 02:13:07,960
Um but that is the original farmer

3774
02:13:07,960 --> 02:13:11,480
that started apple farming in Santaquin.

3775
02:13:11,480 --> 02:13:13,920
He's the one that was the first shipper

3776
02:13:13,920 --> 02:13:17,920
of apples to California from Utah.

3777
02:13:17,920 --> 02:13:19,040
Um

3778
02:13:19,040 --> 02:13:21,360
there's a lot to be said with what we

3779
02:13:21,360 --> 02:13:23,520
have in heritage

3780
02:13:23,520 --> 02:13:26,360
with good families, but also with people

3781
02:13:26,360 --> 02:13:28,680
that are willing to give,

3782
02:13:28,680 --> 02:13:29,800
you know,

3783
02:13:29,800 --> 02:13:31,360
a good piece.

3784
02:13:31,360 --> 02:13:33,840
So, we've got that to look at. We need

3785
02:13:33,840 --> 02:13:36,680
to discuss that as well. So,

3786
02:13:36,680 --> 02:13:38,880
we don't need that on top of everything

3787
02:13:38,880 --> 02:13:41,840
else we have to do next month, but

3788
02:13:41,840 --> 02:13:43,960
probably within a um

3789
02:13:43,960 --> 02:13:45,760
the month of that,

3790
02:13:45,760 --> 02:13:47,960
we need to put the Hudson home on there

3791
02:13:47,960 --> 02:13:49,760
as well.

3792
02:13:49,760 --> 02:13:51,920
I think they had eight children in that

3793
02:13:51,920 --> 02:13:55,240
house. Jeez.

3794
02:13:55,240 --> 02:13:57,400
Smaller than a shed.

3795
02:13:57,400 --> 02:14:01,160
And then finally, uh CUP.

3796
02:14:01,160 --> 02:14:04,240
Have they made the hookup yet? And are

3797
02:14:04,240 --> 02:14:06,120
we at the point that we can we are

3798
02:14:06,120 --> 02:14:09,440
drawing water from the CUP?

3799
02:14:09,440 --> 02:14:11,120
>> They're working on that now. I reported

3800
02:14:11,120 --> 02:14:12,840
on that in my meeting. They I know they

3801
02:14:12,840 --> 02:14:14,720
met on site today and we're getting

3802
02:14:14,720 --> 02:14:16,760
ready to do to connect into our line and

3803
02:14:16,760 --> 02:14:18,280
build the the system. They were just

3804
02:14:18,280 --> 02:14:20,400
waiting on parts and materials and still

3805
02:14:20,400 --> 02:14:22,560
waiting on some parts and materials. So,

3806
02:14:22,560 --> 02:14:26,840
>> How how far out are the parts? Have they cut into it yet?

3807
02:14:26,840 --> 02:14:29,640
>> Not yet. But, that's my understanding is

3808
02:14:29,640 --> 02:14:31,600
Please, Jason. You you John and Jason

3809
02:14:31,600 --> 02:14:33,760
met with them earlier today.

3810
02:14:33,760 --> 02:14:36,280
>> Yeah, Mayor Council, we met with them on

3811
02:14:36,280 --> 02:14:38,760
site this day today and uh they are

3812
02:14:38,760 --> 02:14:41,440
going to do the hot tap on Thursday.

3813
02:14:41,440 --> 02:14:43,000
So, they have the valve, they have the

3814
02:14:43,000 --> 02:14:44,520
tapping sleeve on.

3815
02:14:44,520 --> 02:14:46,360
They plan on doing that to Thursday

3816
02:14:46,360 --> 02:14:47,480
morning.

3817
02:14:47,480 --> 02:14:50,320
And they did say that the parts were

3818
02:14:50,320 --> 02:14:50,880
uh

3819
02:14:50,880 --> 02:14:52,640
coming that they're

3820
02:14:52,640 --> 02:14:55,400
the one item that is going to be lagging

3821
02:14:55,400 --> 02:14:56,548
is the meter.

3822
02:14:56,548 --> 02:14:56,760
>> [clears throat]

3823
02:14:56,760 --> 02:14:58,880
>> But, they've already offered a solution

3824
02:14:58,880 --> 02:15:00,200
there. They're going to put a spool

3825
02:15:00,200 --> 02:15:02,680
piece in. We think we can still operate

3826
02:15:02,680 --> 02:15:04,080
the valve

3827
02:15:04,080 --> 02:15:06,040
uh without the meter until the meter

3828
02:15:06,040 --> 02:15:08,840
gets in. So, with those valves, you can

3829
02:15:08,840 --> 02:15:10,280
pretty much tell how much water you're

3830
02:15:10,280 --> 02:15:13,560
getting by how far they're open. So,

3831
02:15:13,560 --> 02:15:16,120
we should come up with a solution there.

3832
02:15:16,120 --> 02:15:18,560
Hoping around the 24th of July or so is

3833
02:15:18,560 --> 02:15:19,880
what they were telling us.

3834
02:15:19,880 --> 02:15:20,720
>> Mhm.

3835
02:15:20,720 --> 02:15:24,400
>> Okay. I was hoping a little sooner.

3836
02:15:24,400 --> 02:15:27,920
Okay, that is all that I had. Well, I

3837
02:15:27,920 --> 02:15:29,560
did have a couple other things, but

3838
02:15:29,560 --> 02:15:32,000
we'll forget that. Um

3839
02:15:32,000 --> 02:15:36,000
I need a motion to

3840
02:15:36,000 --> 02:15:38,600
go into a closed session that may be

3841
02:15:38,600 --> 02:15:41,080
called to discuss pending or reasonably

3842
02:15:41,080 --> 02:15:43,760
imminent litigation, collective

3843
02:15:43,760 --> 02:15:45,640
bargaining, and or the purchase,

3844
02:15:45,640 --> 02:15:48,400
exchange, or lease of real property,

3845
02:15:48,400 --> 02:15:50,360
a proposed development agreement, a

3846
02:15:50,360 --> 02:15:52,920
project proposal, or a financing

3847
02:15:52,920 --> 02:15:55,280
proposal related to the development of

3848
02:15:55,280 --> 02:15:57,360
land owned by the state.

3849
02:15:57,360 --> 02:15:58,760
>> So moved.

3850
02:15:58,760 --> 02:16:01,200
>> Is there a second?

3851
02:16:01,200 --> 02:16:03,120
>> I'll second.

3852
02:16:03,120 --> 02:16:03,920
>> Brian?

3853
02:16:03,920 --> 02:16:04,320
>> Aye.

3854
02:16:04,320 --> 02:16:04,880
>> Art?

3855
02:16:04,880 --> 02:16:05,440
>> Aye.

3856
02:16:05,440 --> 02:16:05,960
>> Jeff?

3857
02:16:05,960 --> 02:16:06,600
>> Aye.

3858
02:16:06,600 --> 02:16:07,040
>> Lynn?

3859
02:16:07,040 --> 02:16:08,360
>> Aye.

3860
02:16:08,360 --> 02:16:08,880
>> Travis?

3861
02:16:08,880 --> 02:16:09,920
>> Aye.

3862
02:16:09,920 --> 02:16:11,960
>> It's 9:27.

3863
02:16:11,960 --> 02:16:14,760
Uh we will go into that closed session.

3864
02:16:14,760 --> 02:16:16,400
At the end of the closed session, we'll

3865
02:16:16,400 --> 02:16:18,560
come back in here and close council

3866
02:16:18,560 --> 02:16:19,880
meeting. So,

3867
02:16:19,880 --> 02:16:22,680
thank you for being here and uh

3868
02:16:22,680 --> 02:16:25,480
appreciate you.