[0:00] And
[0:02] they do.
[0:09] » [snorts]
[0:12] » Okay, thank you.
[0:14] Welcome to our city council regular
[0:16] meeting. It's Tuesday the 16th of June.
[0:20] And it's 7:11.
[0:23] So, 7:11 will happen in July and if you
[0:26] go to 7:11, you can get a free slurpee.
[0:30] Just thought I'd tell you that.
[0:33] Have to make things fun. Anyway, thank
[0:36] you for being part of our council
[0:38] meeting tonight.
[0:40] >> [clears throat]
[0:40] >> I'll dispense with the roll call as
[0:43] everyone's here and we're ready to go.
[0:46] And
[0:47] would like to ask if anyone would like
[0:49] to lead us in the pledge of allegiance.
[0:52] >> I'll do it mayor.
[0:53] >> Okay.
[0:53] >> Please stand.
[0:55] Please repeat the pledge of allegiance
[0:56] with me. I
[0:58] >> allegiance to the flag of the United
[1:01] States of America and to the republic
[1:03] for which it stands, one nation under
[1:06] God, indivisible, with liberty and
[1:09] justice for all.
[1:12] » Thanks Jason. Can I ask if there's
[1:15] anyone that would offer an invocation or
[1:17] leave us with an inspirational thought?
[1:24] Okay, hearing none, I'll
[1:27] say the prayer.
[1:29] >> [clears throat]
[1:32] » Our Father in heaven, we are grateful
[1:34] tonight for the many blessings that we
[1:37] have.
[1:38] Grateful to be able to serve this city
[1:41] as a council.
[1:43] And grateful for the many good people
[1:44] that we serve and serve with.
[1:47] We're grateful for the
[1:51] representation that we have tonight and
[1:54] ask that thy spirit will be with us, as
[1:57] we
[1:58] listen to comments,
[2:01] as we
[2:02] work to continue to help this city. May
[2:05] we do so with thy spirit and with thy
[2:07] blessing.
[2:08] We're so grateful for where we live.
[2:11] Father, we ask for one other thing this
[2:14] night, and that's for
[2:16] rains to fall
[2:18] and to bless our community with
[2:20] uh
[2:21] water that will help in growing of crops
[2:24] around our city, even helping with the
[2:27] lawns.
[2:28] We pray for that moisture, and for also
[2:31] moisture in the winter
[2:33] that will help us through next year. And
[2:36] we say this in the name of Jesus Christ.
[2:38] Amen.
[2:38] >> Amen.
[2:41] » [clears throat]
[2:44] » I'd like to ask if there is uh
[2:46] declaration of a potential conflict of
[2:48] interest on anything that we're going to
[2:50] discuss tonight.
[2:53] Hearing none, then we'll move on to the
[2:55] next thing. That's the consent agenda.
[2:59] Uh consent agenda
[3:01] will be uh
[3:04] number one, the minutes of 6:02.
[3:08] You want to
[3:10] Uh you've all had a chance to look at
[3:12] that. Are there any comments or uh
[3:15] issues?
[3:18] Then I'll move to the next one, 6:02
[3:22] for our regular meeting.
[3:25] Should that be 6:03?
[3:27] >> It's the day, mayor.
[3:30] It's June 2nd work session and June 2nd.
[3:33] >> Yeah, I know.
[3:34] Some Oh, it's we usually do something
[3:37] else.
[3:38] >> I'm thinking of
[3:39] >> resolutions
[3:40] >> ordinances and
[3:42] >> Um
[3:43] any comments on the regular meeting
[3:45] minutes?
[3:48] Hearing none, then we'll move on to the
[3:50] bills, and it's a very light bill this
[3:55] last two weeks. It's only what 4,382,000
[4:01] 329 and I'm glad there was 61 cents. So,
[4:06] Um we have a chance to scroll through
[4:09] those.
[4:11] Um
[4:11] And every penny seems to have its place.
[4:16] Um any questions or any comments from
[4:19] those expenditures?
[4:21] I do I do want to say that a major
[4:23] portion of that is for the uh WRF that
[4:27] we're currently upgrading. So,
[4:29] >> And and the fire truck.
[4:31] >> And the fire truck. Yeah.
[4:34] So, [clears throat]
[4:35] uh um
[4:35] >> Can Can I ask a question?
[4:37] >> Sure.
[4:37] >> And maybe Shannon has some insight.
[4:40] There's like [clears throat] the
[4:41] Medicare ACH transaction fees. Is that
[4:45] What is that? Like is that like Cuz I I
[4:48] just know I like I'm I noticed there's
[4:50] like three different like transaction
[4:52] related like credit card fees or this
[4:54] and I'm like I I've no idea what it is.
[4:56] >> Yeah, so um that's all related to um
[4:59] ambulance insurance payments through
[5:01] Medicaid, Medicare. Um they directly get
[5:04] deposited into our checking account.
[5:06] They charge a fee off every single one
[5:08] of those two um process them and and get them to us.
[5:12] So, the money comes into our account and
[5:14] then there's a small fee that comes off
[5:16] every time we get a payment from the
[5:17] federal government.
[5:19] >> Oh, do we take that into account for
[5:20] what we bill or is it do we have any
[5:23] say? Like does the government say this
[5:25] is the rate that we'll pay or can we say
[5:27] hey we have to pay this fee so we
[5:28] >> No, I think it's a standard rate.
[5:30] >> Okay.
[5:30] >> Um for every single claim.
[5:32] >> Okay.
[5:32] >> So, Ryan would have more information on
[5:34] that, but I'm pretty sure it's a
[5:35] standard rate for every claim.
[5:36] >> Okay. Thanks.
[5:39] >> Okay, any other questions on that?
[5:41] Then I would entertain a motion for the
[5:44] consent agenda.
[5:46] >> So moved.
[5:47] >> Seconded.
[5:48] >> Moved and seconded.
[5:50] Travis.
[5:50] >> Hi.
[5:55] » Lynn.
[5:56] >> Hi.
[5:58] >> Jeff.
[5:58] >> [clears throat]
[5:59] >> Hi.
[5:59] >> Art.
[6:00] >> Hi.
[6:00] >> Brian.
[6:01] >> Hi.
[6:02] >> You didn't take that.
[6:03] >> I answered anything.
[6:04] >> [laughter]
[6:06] >> Okay.
[6:07] Um public foreign bid openings, awards,
[6:11] and appointments. Uh we have an
[6:13] appointment tonight.
[6:15] Our architectural review committee
[6:18] appointment. And uh
[6:20] So, Jason, do you want to take that?
[6:23] >> Yeah, as we talked about in the work
[6:24] session, uh
[6:26] our code requires that for the
[6:27] architectural
[6:29] review committee, we have a
[6:30] representative from the planning
[6:31] commission be on that committee.
[6:34] Um
[6:34] We recently had Kylie Lance who was that
[6:36] planning commission
[6:38] representative, but she's not been in
[6:39] the plan She's not on the planning
[6:40] commission anymore. Uh we still retain
[6:42] her with with a amendment the council
[6:44] recently did to to keep an alternate. Um
[6:49] So, she still will will do that, but we need a new planning commission
[6:52] representative. And And after talking
[6:54] with the mayor and and talking with this
[6:56] person, uh we're proposing and ask that
[6:59] [clears throat] you consider uh Briana
[7:01] Nixon to to be that planning
[7:03] commissioner who will be on the
[7:05] architectural review committee. She She
[7:08] does work in real estate. I think she's
[7:09] also got a uh a good design eye with some of the work that she does with looking at homes and that sort of a
[7:16] thing. Uh
[7:18] I I feel [snorts] like that's that's
[7:19] kind of what uh applies to Kylie Lance
[7:22] as well with her experience with that.
[7:24] So, anyway, she's the planning commissioner that we've uh suggested to be on the ARC.
[7:32] » [clears throat]
[7:32] >> Okay.
[7:37] I think you ought to come up and
[7:40] stand before us.
[7:42] Because I'm going to say does anybody
[7:43] have any questions for Brianna?
[7:47] Sure.
[7:49] » Hi guys.
[7:51] >> Brianna
[7:53] has served on this committee for some
[7:55] time and and more than anything I'm glad
[7:57] that you're
[7:58] glad to take on one more opportunity to
[8:01] serve.
[8:02] >> Yeah, no it'll be exciting. We like
[8:05] Jason said I love watching and designing
[8:08] commercial buildings. That's what
[8:10] me and my husband mainly have done is
[8:12] commercial buildings. So I'm excited to
[8:14] be part of it.
[8:16] >> Okay, any questions that you guys have
[8:18] for
[8:20] Brianna? She about called you Kathleen.
[8:23] Sorry about that.
[8:25] >> That's okay.
[8:26] >> Then I would entertain a motion for the
[8:29] arc appointment.
[8:32] >> So moved.
[8:33] >> Seconded.
[8:34] >> Moved and seconded. Travis?
[8:36] >> I.
[8:37] >> Dan?
[8:37] >> I.
[8:38] >> Jeff?
[8:38] >> I.
[8:39] >> Art?
[8:40] >> I. [clears throat]
[8:40] >> Ryan?
[8:40] >> I.
[8:41] >> Okay.
[8:42] >> So you are on. Now do we swear her in or
[8:45] >> care of that later. It doesn't have to
[8:46] happen here but she's already been sworn
[8:48] in on the planning commission and so
[8:50] she's had that embarrassment of doing
[8:51] that in a public meeting. We'll we'll do
[8:53] that.
[8:54] >> You can do that at the arc meeting as
[8:56] well. So
[8:57] >> Yeah.
[8:57] >> Okay.
[8:57] thank you and thanks for bringing
[9:00] your number one employee because he told
[9:02] me he had four years this year?
[9:04] >> No, six years.
[9:05] >> Six years.
[9:07] >> [laughter]
[9:07] >> Yeah, I've been there six years already.
[9:09] >> Yeah.
[9:10] >> Thank you Chad for keeping [laughter]
[9:13] keeping us clean.
[9:16] >> Thank you.
[9:16] >> Appreciate it very much.
[9:19] Um
[9:20] I'd like to move on to the public forum
[9:23] and nobody signed up. However, in this
[9:25] we are going to talk about safe routes
[9:28] to school and and I've asked the police
[9:30] chief to come because he had a meeting
[9:34] that he reported to us on just recently
[9:36] about safe and would like if you'd just
[9:39] give us a a little bit of information
[9:42] before we step in. We we had the PTA
[9:45] president that's asked for time and
[9:47] we're going to have her come up
[9:48] afterwards, too.
[9:50] >> Yeah, Mr. Mayor, Council.
[9:52] Uh we had our annual safe routes meeting
[9:54] has probably been 2 weeks ago or so and
[9:56] I think we uh
[9:58] got [clears throat] Orchard Hills and
[9:59] Apple Valley taken care of with a few
[10:02] minor changes.
[10:03] But uh Santaquin Elementary is always
[10:06] kind of a hot topic and always kind of
[10:09] been an issue.
[10:10] And so we discussed this at length, but
[10:13] uh they wanted to
[10:15] they didn't call it table, but we would
[10:16] call it table it for future meetings
[10:19] because it was outside the scope of what
[10:20] we were talking about. So, I thought the
[10:23] next time I don't have a date on this
[10:25] meeting, but uh I thought that it would
[10:27] be a good idea if Jason and John
[10:30] went with me to that meeting and see if
[10:31] there's something we can do to help them
[10:32] out over there.
[10:34] I would be hesitant hesitant to
[10:38] make any major changes without the
[10:40] school district's buy-in
[10:42] because unless they
[10:44] disperse the kids in a different manner,
[10:47] I think it's going to have the same
[10:48] bottleneck effect on traffic.
[10:51] >> How did they compute the disbursement or
[10:54] the collection of kids to the schools?
[10:59] >> You know, I
[11:01] maybe Councilman Meekam can expand on
[11:03] this, but I'm not exactly sure of their
[11:04] safety policies and procedures, but I
[11:07] understand is they don't want any access
[11:09] into the school district property. Like
[11:12] I don't know if you remember, but on the
[11:13] north side of Santaquin Elementary,
[11:15] there used to be a couple of pedestrian
[11:17] gates over there and they've since taken
[11:19] them out. I understand they had a
[11:20] district
[11:22] policy change at some point.
[11:24] And so they all want them coming out the
[11:26] same way out of the same doors.
[11:28] So, um
[11:31] I I think that needs to be
[11:33] because I don't know of a great solution
[11:35] with with without
[11:38] some sort of modification to that
[11:39] policy.
[11:40] >> Did they direct you with anything that
[11:42] came from the school district to change this year?
[11:48] >> Not from
[11:49] I do have a couple changes from the
[11:50] other schools.
[11:51] >> Okay.
[11:53] So Chief, just to be clear also, the the
[11:55] district is the one that sets the safe
[11:57] routes. They they they in concert with
[11:59] us of everything from signage to to
[12:02] crosswalks and other things. They're the
[12:03] ones that set the routes rather than us.
[12:06] >> Generally Generally speaking, yes, but
[12:08] we do have a little bit of obviously
[12:10] what's at least school property. We do
[12:11] have a little bit of input on that.
[12:14] But But you need it it needs to be a
[12:15] partnership.
[12:16] >> Right.
[12:18] Okay.
[12:19] >> Any other questions or concerns?
[12:20] >> Well, I I just wanted you to report on
[12:23] that meeting that you went to because
[12:24] now we're going to hear if there are
[12:26] other things that we need to act upon
[12:29] or that need to be taken before the the
[12:32] school district.
[12:33] >> Okay.
[12:33] >> So that we can take care of it before
[12:35] school starts.
[12:37] >> Okay.
[12:37] >> There's no problem the money can't fix,
[12:39] Mayor.
[12:40] >> [laughter]
[12:41] >> So true.
[12:42] >> Really?
[12:45] » Huh.
[12:46] Oh, that hurts.
[12:48] >> [laughter]
[12:49] >> I I'm sorry. I forgot your name.
[12:52] >> I'm Valerie.
[12:53] >> Yeah. Would you come up and introduce
[12:56] yourself? And I know you have a
[12:57] presentation.
[12:59] >> Yes.
[13:00] So I think maybe some of wires got
[13:01] crossed because I had asked
[13:03] to do a presentation
[13:05] for a couple of
[13:08] school issues that we've been having
[13:09] [clears throat] or discussing.
[13:12] But safe routes is one of them. So I'm
[13:14] glad that you're here to clarify some of
[13:16] that.
[13:17] Um
[13:18] >> Hang on just a second. Let me get you
[13:19] see if I can get you
[13:28] » [snorts]
[13:39] » Is that yours?
[13:40] >> Yes, that's mine.
[13:43] So, [snorts] okay.
[13:45] Um, my name is Mallory Durrant. I know a
[13:49] few of you. I am a resident here in
[13:51] Santaquin.
[13:52] Um, I have four kids at home who as of
[13:56] this next school year will be attending
[13:58] Santaquin Elementary School and I am the
[14:00] PTA safety officer there. I would never
[14:03] take on the role of PTA president.
[14:05] >> [laughter]
[14:06] >> I will leave that for my friend
[14:08] Andrea [clears throat] here.
[14:10] Um, but I do have a background in safety
[14:12] and emergency management. I've actually
[14:14] worked with Art on a few things. Um, and
[14:17] then my partner in crime here is Andrea
[14:19] Howard. She is the art teacher at
[14:22] Santaquin Elementary. She has two kids.
[14:25] Um, one of them just graduated from
[14:26] Santaquin. The other is still here at
[14:28] Santaquin. Um, and she has held multiple
[14:31] positions in the PTA including the best
[14:34] PTA president we've had. So, she's here
[14:37] to represent the school.
[14:39] Uh, both of us have discussed and had
[14:41] meetings with Miss Ribble who is the
[14:43] elementary school principal.
[14:45] Um, she is fully supportive of
[14:47] everything that we are presenting here
[14:48] today, but she was not able to attend.
[14:52] So, for this presentation, I'm going to
[14:55] present our requests in two phases, but
[14:58] we can take a break in between the two
[14:59] to discuss the differences in them and
[15:02] what we're asking for.
[15:04] Um, also I call them phases, but
[15:06] ultimately they are just two separate
[15:08] requests for things to be done here in
[15:10] Santaquin to make the school safer.
[15:13] Um,
[15:15] so, that's where we're at. So, our first
[15:17] request is for infrastructure
[15:19] improvements along the elementary
[15:20] school's dedicated safe routes path.
[15:23] Um
[15:25] last year at the beginning of the school
[15:28] year, I sent an email to each of you
[15:30] informing you of the serious issues that
[15:32] we were running into at Santaquin
[15:34] Elementary, and I'm really appreciative
[15:36] because a lot of those issues were
[15:38] addressed and we were very grateful, but
[15:40] there are still many safety concerns
[15:43] when it comes to Santaquin Elementary,
[15:45] and that includes student near misses,
[15:48] there's a lack of signage and crosswalk
[15:50] issues that have been major concerns
[15:52] over this last school year.
[15:54] Um that we are trying to get addressed
[15:57] before this new school year starts.
[16:01] So, to walk you through it a little bit,
[16:03] one of our big biggest concerns um is
[16:06] for a stop sign at the school T.
[16:10] Uh the T intersection near Santaquin
[16:11] Elementary currently lacks clear
[16:14] control, it creates confusion for all of
[16:17] the drivers, the parents, and the
[16:19] students walking.
[16:21] Um
[16:22] there are a lot of issues that if you go
[16:25] on any given school morning or afternoon
[16:28] during drop-off or pick-up, you will see
[16:30] the issues at that specific school T.
[16:34] >> Is that one Okay, I was just about to
[16:35] ask which
[16:36] There's multiple T's on there, I don't
[16:38] know which one it is.
[16:39] >> right there
[16:40] um on 100 South and 400 West.
[16:42] >> I was wondering what was going on.
[16:44] >> So,
[16:46] I wanted to just discuss these areas and
[16:47] signs. Now, these pictures were pulled
[16:49] off of Google Maps, so they're a little
[16:52] outdated, but the first one is
[16:55] um where a sign used to be several years
[16:58] ago. There used to be a stop sign there.
[17:00] Nobody knows Nobody can seem to tell us
[17:03] where that stop sign went. Um
[17:06] the where that is circled, where there
[17:08] used to be a stop sign, is a sign saying
[17:12] it is a one-way street on 400 West
[17:15] between 8:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m. only for
[17:19] that
[17:20] block.
[17:21] Only for that specific block.
[17:23] Um which is also confusing because only
[17:25] that portion of the street is one way,
[17:26] not the entire street in front of the
[17:28] school.
[17:29] Now, we are hoping to get a large stop
[17:32] sign right here.
[17:34] Um between this building and the
[17:37] library, the stop sign is bolted partway
[17:40] into the street. Um and that we feel
[17:43] should be an option for the school
[17:45] because this gravel area in front of it
[17:49] is where people park to drop off and
[17:51] pick up their kids. So, putting it off
[17:54] to the side by the sidewalk will not be
[17:58] very visible.
[18:00] So, I just wanted to bring that up as
[18:02] well. Um
[18:04] and then over there on the side is the
[18:07] exit of the school where the cars exit
[18:10] the roundabout when they do drop off,
[18:12] they turn left, and that causes extra
[18:14] traffic issues. And this especially
[18:16] causes problems when there are three
[18:18] ways of traffic crossing with no stops.
[18:22] Everyone is fighting for their in. Um
[18:25] and that's directly where the children
[18:26] cross to go to school. And you can see
[18:28] on both sides there are white lines
[18:30] where the children cross.
[18:31] And um
[18:33] no signage saying stop, pause, yield,
[18:37] anything for the kids.
[18:40] So.
[18:42] That is um one of our
[18:45] signage issues that we're running into.
[18:48] Another one is there is on the exit from
[18:52] the school, there is a no or a right
[18:55] turn only. If you can see, it is very
[18:57] small. It is tucked behind the um
[19:01] Tabitha Way box, which distracts from
[19:03] the sign itself, and it is not
[19:07] adhered to. Nobody has Very few people
[19:11] seem to care that it is there. We would
[19:14] like a great big large high visibility
[19:17] sign there that says no left turn or
[19:20] right turn only.
[19:23] Um now, the signage around the school is
[19:28] an issue that we want to resolve, but in
[19:30] addition to that
[19:32] the state law for the safe routes um
[19:36] is that students have a designated safe
[19:38] route for walking.
[19:41] Now, we have three options for that. It
[19:45] is Main Street, it is 100 and it is 200
[19:49] South. Um we are not going to use Main
[19:51] Street. And just so you know, I'm on
[19:53] Community Council. We discuss this in
[19:55] length every year. I've been on
[19:56] Community Council for 4 years. This has
[19:59] been brought up
[20:00] every single year. Um
[20:03] So, I just want to give that background,
[20:05] but uh we're not able to use Main
[20:07] Street. That's obvious.
[20:09] We don't want to use 200 South for the
[20:12] safe route for multiple reasons, but
[20:14] including um the lack of stop signs east
[20:17] to west and then the run from Rally's
[20:20] Red Barn at higher speeds. We want to
[20:23] keep it at the lower speeds. So, our
[20:25] only really good option is 100 South,
[20:29] which makes sense. That's directly in
[20:30] front of the school. On 100 South, we
[20:33] have the school, we have the park, we
[20:35] have the Chief Can Museum, we have the
[20:36] City Community Center, and we have the
[20:38] City Library. All of which are used as
[20:40] kids go to and from school and after
[20:42] school activities.
[20:44] So,
[20:46] the issue we're running into is that
[20:48] there is not a safe good path to get
[20:52] from the school up to the library. We
[20:54] don't currently have a sidewalk that is
[20:59] straight from the school up to the
[21:00] library. It varies on different sides of
[21:02] the street. A lot of times it is
[21:04] overgrown from the homes there covered
[21:07] in bushes.
[21:09] In places like the where those the
[21:12] gravel area where um people park,
[21:14] anytime that it is winter and there's
[21:16] snow on that, those portions don't get
[21:18] plowed and so the kids are forced to
[21:20] walk directly in the street instead of
[21:23] on the sides. Um
[21:26] So, those are just some of the issues
[21:28] we're running into with our safe routes.
[21:32] So, now I just wanted to make it very
[21:36] clear what I'm talk talking about. So,
[21:38] this first circle is where the school
[21:40] does its own crossing guards.
[21:43] Um those were the two crosswalks we
[21:46] have. Now, under state law
[21:48] [clears throat]
[21:48] um it's local highway authority is
[21:51] supposed to pay for and supervise
[21:52] crossing guards if it falls under the
[21:55] primary entity of the city, which um
[21:59] which it only falls under reduced speed
[22:01] zones. But, we don't even have a reduced
[22:04] speed zone by that school.
[22:07] It's still the normal speed zones. So,
[22:10] I just wanted to point that out that
[22:11] where our kids don't even have a stop
[22:13] sign, there's no reduced speed zone.
[22:16] Um
[22:18] that intersection not being a reduced
[22:20] speed zone is an issue,
[22:23] but
[22:25] we're not we're not even asking the city
[22:27] to formally extend the school zone to
[22:29] cover this hazard. We're just asking that you guys
[22:33] put in the signage to make it safe.
[22:35] >> [clears throat]
[22:35] >> Um
[22:37] in addition to that,
[22:40] all of these red circles from the school
[22:43] up to the library
[22:46] have no crosswalks.
[22:48] Um the green circle is the current only
[22:51] one that has two white lines making it a
[22:54] crosswalk crossing the street east to
[22:57] west.
[22:59] Um that's also the one nearest to the
[23:01] police station. So, we're asking that we
[23:03] get dedicated crosswalks from the school
[23:07] up to the library on each of those
[23:09] intersections from east to west.
[23:16] Um so, this comes directly from the safe
[23:19] routes website.
[23:21] I emailed you guys
[23:24] a few months ago about a grant that I'm
[23:27] hoping that the city can apply for this
[23:29] summer fall or the summer and fall.
[23:32] We've been working with Travis Kill on
[23:33] it. Um it won't open until the end of
[23:36] summer and it would get more money to
[23:39] initiate better safety protocols.
[23:42] Um however, one we aren't guaranteed to
[23:45] get it and two, it has a a 2-year time
[23:48] period it takes to implement those
[23:50] changes. And so, for now I'm trying to
[23:53] just propose the most cost-efficient
[23:56] changes that could benefit the kids and
[23:59] the community really um prior to us even
[24:02] putting in this grant application and
[24:04] prior to the new school year starting.
[24:07] Um
[24:08] so, I just want to pause here for a
[24:10] moment and ask if you have any questions
[24:12] or any aspect of this phase that you
[24:15] want to discuss before I talk about
[24:17] phase two.
[24:20] » Does anybody have any questions?
[24:22] >> And maybe to address um Officer Hurst or
[24:26] Chief Hurst, it is my understanding what
[24:29] we were told in school community
[24:30] council, anything at the school
[24:33] is the responsibility of the school
[24:35] district. Everything else is the
[24:37] responsibility of the city. The school,
[24:39] we are required as a school community
[24:41] council to present the safest option and
[24:44] then we're asked to work with the city
[24:46] to make sure that safe option is known
[24:49] to you.
[24:50] Um so, that that's my understanding. I
[24:53] don't
[24:55] >> Most part yes.
[24:56] >> Okay.
[24:57] >> Maybe just as a clarification, when
[24:58] you're talking about new crosswalks at
[25:01] Was it 200 West and 100 West?
[25:04] Are you just wanting them painted or are
[25:05] you looking for someone to man those
[25:07] crosswalks during school?
[25:08] >> No, we're looking for it to be painted
[25:10] and appropriate signage showing that
[25:12] they are crosswalks and that children
[25:14] will be crossing there. Um, for an
[25:17] actual crossing guard, there is
[25:21] a requirement depending on the the speed
[25:24] that I was talking about earlier and so
[25:27] it's not necessarily
[25:28] to that point, I would say.
[25:33] » Okay.
[25:34] >> All right, matter.
[25:35] >> Phase two.
[25:36] >> Okay, so phase two.
[25:39] Um,
[25:40] the next thing we are requesting is
[25:42] implementation of the NOVA program into
[25:45] Santaquin elementary schools.
[25:48] NOVA stands for nurturing opportunities,
[25:50] values, and accountability.
[25:53] So, this is an elementary school program
[25:56] that works with fifth graders and it is
[25:58] actually very widespread throughout Utah
[26:00] County as well as Davis and Salt Lake
[26:02] Counties. Um, surrounding areas to us
[26:05] have regular preventive curriculum with
[26:07] local law enforcement. Our own Travis
[26:09] Kill was a NOVA instructor at Payson.
[26:12] >> This is uh
[26:15] Park View Elementary and Spring Lake
[26:17] Elementary.
[26:17] >> Okay.
[26:18] So, um, I had a meeting with Mr. Lyman
[26:22] Gifford, who is the program director and
[26:25] in that meeting I found out that in Utah
[26:27] County alone, Payson, Spanish Fork,
[26:30] Springville, Pleasant Grove, Mapleton,
[26:32] Elk Ridge, Genola, Goshen, Cedar Fort,
[26:35] Fairfield, and Eureka all use NOVA as
[26:38] their primary preventive curriculum.
[26:41] Nephi does as well.
[26:43] So, ultimately all surrounding areas use
[26:45] this program and Santaquin currently has
[26:48] no preventive curriculum program that we
[26:50] are using.
[26:52] Um the Nephi Police Department um is one
[26:55] of the few police departments that
[26:56] actually maintain a robust school
[26:58] resource officer program with officers
[27:01] that actually go and
[27:03] work in the elementary schools uh to
[27:06] maintain regular interaction. We do not
[27:08] have that in Santaquin. Um we do reach
[27:11] out to Santaquin police and we try to
[27:13] get interaction with them, but it is
[27:15] difficult to get them there on occasion
[27:17] because of their workload.
[27:19] So,
[27:21] with 180 schools across Utah that are
[27:23] already seeing the benefits of NOvA, we
[27:26] would like Santaquin Elementary to be
[27:28] the pilot for our city. Um
[27:31] this is not testing a new theory. This
[27:33] is an adoption of a proven Utah success
[27:37] story to ensure that our kids have the
[27:38] same safety and character tools as kids
[27:42] in Provo, in Spanish Fork, in Salt Lake
[27:44] City.
[27:45] Um it's a program that focuses on
[27:47] prevention and teaching kids to make
[27:49] right choices before a crisis occurs,
[27:52] but it will also build community trust
[27:54] and turning police officers from a
[27:56] figure of authority that are only seen
[27:58] during trouble
[28:00] into teachers and mentors seen every
[28:02] week at school.
[28:06] So, why this matters.
[28:09] On the first side, this graphic was
[28:11] taken directly from the 2025 Santaquin
[28:14] Police Department annual report. And
[28:16] this report shows that in Santaquin
[28:18] alone in 2025, 30% of arrests in
[28:21] Santaquin were of juveniles under the
[28:23] age of 19.
[28:26] On the other side, I pulled statistics
[28:27] from multiple different places to find
[28:29] the national average of youth arrests.
[28:31] The national average for youth arrests
[28:33] is 7%.
[28:35] This shows us that overall, Santaquin
[28:37] youth have a 429%
[28:40] higher likelihood of arrest than the
[28:42] average youth in the United States. That
[28:44] is nearly four and a half times more
[28:46] likely.
[28:49] A youth arrest rate that is more than
[28:50] four times the national average isn't
[28:52] just a statistic, it is a warning light.
[28:55] It tells us that too many young people
[28:57] in our community are crossing paths with
[28:58] the justice system long before they
[29:01] should and that the current approach
[29:02] isn't catching problems early enough.
[29:05] A prevention focused police program in
[29:07] the school becomes essential because it
[29:09] shifts the dynamic from reacting to
[29:11] arrests to building relationships,
[29:14] teaching skills, and intervening before
[29:16] a crisis ever happens.
[29:18] So, when police officers are present as
[29:20] mentors and educators, rather than only
[29:22] responders, students gain trust,
[29:25] guidance, and positive connections that
[29:27] reduce the likelihood of ever entering
[29:29] that 30% category.
[29:31] So, this statistic makes the case very
[29:33] clearly to me. If you want different
[29:36] outcomes, you need early, consistent,
[29:38] and constructive engagement right where
[29:40] the kids spend most of their time, which
[29:42] is at the schools.
[29:46] So,
[29:47] the program investment um House Bill 40
[29:50] this year allocated 25 plus million
[29:52] dollars for school safety, but they
[29:54] leave the responsibility of prevention
[29:56] programs to individual cities.
[29:59] So,
[30:00] >> [clears throat]
[30:00] >> what we are proposing today and asking
[30:03] is whether or not Santaquin would be
[30:04] willing to implement this program in a
[30:06] sustainable way to get it into our
[30:08] schools and help our local youth.
[30:11] Now, here's the cost breakdown, which I
[30:13] got from my meeting with Mr. Gifford.
[30:15] The cost to start the program is $3,000.
[30:18] This covers a one-year licensing fee,
[30:20] which is $500, and covers all the
[30:23] curriculum, handouts, and educational
[30:25] materials.
[30:26] 1,500 of that goes to the reusable kit
[30:29] that is used in lessons.
[30:31] And finally, $1,000 is the cost to train
[30:34] one instructor.
[30:36] Um luckily, they don't have to go
[30:37] anywhere to be trained. After COVID,
[30:39] they made this a fully online program or
[30:41] online online training with the only
[30:44] exception being that the final module is
[30:46] live.
[30:48] It takes an officer 30 hours to complete
[30:51] the training, and if it is taught by the
[30:53] same officer every year, then they are
[30:54] automatically recertified. If they miss
[30:57] a year of training, they have to get
[30:58] recertified.
[31:02] So, the ongoing cost or yearly cost is
[31:05] the annual $500
[31:07] license plus supplies, which are not
[31:10] required, but they are strongly
[31:11] recommended. So, these are things like
[31:13] incentives for the kids such as awards,
[31:16] graduation treats, um t-shirts,
[31:18] stickers. Now, for Santaquin Elementary,
[31:21] I have a safety budget that could pay
[31:23] for those
[31:24] rewards um or incentives. Uh we've
[31:27] estimated that to be roughly $100 to
[31:29] $150 a year.
[31:31] Each lesson is 1 hour, and there are 13
[31:34] lessons per class.
[31:36] So, this is a program for fifth graders
[31:37] only. At Santaquin Elementary, we have
[31:40] three fifth grade classes.
[31:42] It would be roughly an officer being
[31:45] there for 3 hours, or if we can't swing
[31:47] that, we could try to house them
[31:48] together and do it all together, but
[31:50] that is a lot of
[31:52] fifth graders for one officer.
[31:54] Uh for anyone really. I've been around
[31:55] them. It's a lot for
[31:57] one person.
[31:58] Um
[32:00] you have to factor in graduation and
[32:02] prep time. And so, this is something
[32:04] that would only be worth it if we commit
[32:06] to it long-term. It would be a waste of
[32:08] money to do it for 1 or 2 years and then
[32:11] discontinue. Uh the biggest
[32:12] consideration here is ensuring that the
[32:14] police department can consistently run
[32:16] this program.
[32:17] If a certified officer transfers, only
[32:20] the training portion, that $1,000 need
[32:23] reinvestment, which protects 66% of the
[32:26] program's initial value.
[32:29] So,
[32:30] we are looking for a budget for this
[32:32] prevention and education program. And if
[32:35] we don't have it, is there a way that we
[32:37] can create a budget to make this happen
[32:39] for the upcoming school year?
[32:42] Um
[32:45] >> [clears throat]
[32:45] >> Also, I want to go back because there
[32:47] were some things I was looking into. I
[32:50] don't know a lot about them, but the
[32:51] Utah STEM Action Center often provides
[32:54] community impact sponsorships for
[32:56] organizations for learning opportunities
[32:59] outside standard curriculum. I was told
[33:02] that some police departments in Utah
[33:05] applied for a JAG formula grant to cover
[33:07] the recurring costs of instructions and
[33:09] materials.
[33:11] Um
[33:11] I'm not saying it has to come directly
[33:13] from the city budget, but I think there
[33:15] are avenues that could be taken to find
[33:17] the money for this.
[33:20] So,
[33:21] ultimately
[33:23] the program will require a real
[33:25] commitment from Santaquin City and from
[33:28] the Santaquin Police Department. Right
[33:30] now, our community is falling short when
[33:32] it comes to meaningful officer student
[33:34] engagement. Our officers work very hard
[33:37] and I deeply respect them, but our
[33:39] schools are not receiving the consistent
[33:41] presence or support that our kids need.
[33:44] We have no school resource officers at
[33:45] our elementary schools. We have no
[33:47] regular interaction with municipal
[33:49] authorities aside from if an incident
[33:51] occurs at the schools, and that impact
[33:53] shows in our youth arrest rates.
[33:57] Um
[33:58] So,
[34:00] a structured prevention program would
[34:02] finally give our schools the consistent
[34:04] police presence our students deserve.
[34:07] Even something as simple as a patrol car
[34:09] parked in the school lot has been shown
[34:10] to deter negative behavior. And so, we
[34:13] want to do everything we can to make
[34:14] this happen, but without a formal
[34:16] commitment, our kids will continue to
[34:19] miss out on the positive relationships
[34:20] that keep them safe, confident, and
[34:23] connected. And our arrest rates for our
[34:25] youth will not improve.
[34:28] So, just to show you the benefits of
[34:30] using this as an ongoing investment.
[34:32] We'll have student engagement, building
[34:34] that trust between uh the local youth
[34:37] and the law enforcement from an early
[34:39] age. We will have a community impact by
[34:41] lowering the disproportionate juvenile
[34:43] arrest rates. And then we will be
[34:45] equipping our students and our our kids
[34:48] with practical life skills and safety
[34:50] knowledge.
[34:56] So, to conclude, I just want to end with
[34:57] some of my favorite quotes.
[34:59] Um [clears throat]
[35:00] as Franklin Delano Roosevelt said, we
[35:02] cannot always build the future for our
[35:04] youth, but we can build our youth for
[35:06] the future. And I think that with these
[35:08] changes implemented in Santaquin, we
[35:10] would be doing exactly that.
[35:14] » Okay.
[35:15] >> Thank you for allowing me to come
[35:16] present this.
[35:18] >> Thank you.
[35:19] >> Do you have any questions or concerns?
[35:22] >> I have a question. So, how many total
[35:26] officer hours a year is this?
[35:29] >> So, it depends on how we implement it.
[35:32] >> But if it if it was like it was like how
[35:35] you said like
[35:36] not combining the classes.
[35:38] >> So, if not combining the classes, it
[35:39] would be 13 weeks with an hour per
[35:44] class, which is three classes. So, 3 *
[35:46] 13, and then we need to
[35:49] add in some prep time and probably a
[35:52] graduation day.
[35:54] Or I mean, the PTAs really could handle
[35:57] the graduation, but I'm sure they would
[35:58] love to see that officer that taught
[36:00] them the program give them their
[36:02] certificates.
[36:03] >> Do you do you put that over a whole
[36:06] year?
[36:07] >> Yes.
[36:07] >> September through
[36:08] >> Yep, September through May would be over
[36:11] those 13 weeks.
[36:13] >> Can I give you some input there?
[36:14] >> I think you've done this before.
[36:16] >> I've done this for many years.
[36:19] So, the NOVO program
[36:21] actually works better if you do it once
[36:23] a week.
[36:25] Uh if you do it right, you can cut it
[36:26] down to about 10 lessons. You can do the
[36:29] graduation during class. The teachers
[36:31] like it more that way because
[36:33] there's some tips and tricks that you
[36:35] can cut down your time and still
[36:37] maintain that level of
[36:39] the impact that you're looking for.
[36:42] A lot of officers, when I did it, I did
[36:44] all that prep time while I was on duty.
[36:45] And a lot of times that I taught this class while I
[36:50] was on duty, so it didn't require
[36:51] overtime.
[36:52] That'd be something that they'd have to
[36:54] work their schedules through.
[36:56] The whole idea of the NO
[36:58] principles program, as what it's called,
[37:00] is it teaches nine principles. And it's
[37:02] The idea is to teach kids how to think,
[37:04] not what to think.
[37:06] And
[37:07] I swear by it.
[37:09] I think it I think that it's totally
[37:11] worth the investment.
[37:14] Uh, I was disappointed that my kids didn't
[37:18] have this going to Santaquin, to the
[37:19] point that I took my kids with me to
[37:22] Payson to teach my own kids this class.
[37:25] I'd love to see this in Santaquin. Even
[37:27] though my kids don't go to school here
[37:28] anymore, they've all aged out.
[37:31] And I think, Mayor, I have an idea if we
[37:33] could meet later that
[37:35] I think there's a way that we could find
[37:36] some money for this.
[37:37] >> Well, there's
[37:38] The thing that I have going through my
[37:40] head is we have [clears throat] three
[37:42] schools. In fact, we have four schools.
[37:45] And, uh,
[37:48] is it that you want to focus on one, or
[37:50] do you want to make sure that you do
[37:51] them all? And what's the cost overall?
[37:54] And
[37:54] >> So, we're asking that Santaquin
[37:56] Elementary be the pilot program uh, for
[37:59] this school year.
[38:00] And then hopefully that it can be
[38:02] rewritten into the budget every year to
[38:05] increase to the rest of Santaquin.
[38:07] >> Okay, so there's there's a budget
[38:10] implication of only the $3,000
[38:13] up front, but there's also the time and
[38:16] the scheduling impact that we need to
[38:18] figure out, too.
[38:19] >> So, So program is what I showed the
[38:22] budget for, which is simply the program.
[38:24] The officers and their pay were not
[38:27] included in that because I am not super
[38:29] privy to that and
[38:31] >> they still have to be paid for the work
[38:33] they do.
[38:34] >> And yeah, so it is a budget
[38:37] >> Right.
[38:37] >> that we need to
[38:37] >> Mhm.
[38:38] >> and have it worked on. So
[38:41] >> And and I understand that you guys were
[38:44] talking about budget prior to this and
[38:46] money is always an issue.
[38:48] >> Okay.
[38:48] >> I also know that as the PTA safety
[38:51] officer, I have tried to set up officer
[38:54] interactions at
[38:57] for the last 4 years.
[38:59] I have watched kids shrink away and cry
[39:02] and run out of the room when a police
[39:04] officer approaches them because they are
[39:06] so terrified.
[39:08] Even when the officers are doing
[39:10] all of the right things, getting on eye
[39:12] level, speaking softly, trying to show
[39:14] them they're a friend.
[39:16] But kids who are fourth and fifth grade
[39:18] and have had no interaction with police
[39:20] prior to this are already at the point
[39:23] where they're scared and they view
[39:25] police officers as the enemy.
[39:28] Getting officers in our schools early
[39:30] will stop not stop this, but it will be
[39:33] an avenue to have better interactions
[39:36] with them.
[39:37] They come to our school. We'll pay for
[39:38] them to have lunch with the kids. You
[39:40] know, [clears throat] we'll we'll do
[39:42] whatever we can. We invite the officers
[39:44] every year to come to recesses, to come
[39:47] to lunch.
[39:48] And due to their scheduling, it's hard
[39:51] to get them there.
[39:52] When they come, it's hugely impactful on
[39:56] our students.
[39:58] We would love to see a formal commitment
[40:00] to them coming
[40:02] so that we can make it happen
[40:03] continuously throughout the year and not
[40:05] just once a week during safety week when
[40:08] I'm asking and requesting them to come.
[40:11] >> I would like to throw my two cents worth
[40:12] in as a an educator and a former a in
[40:15] Nebo School District. Um I fought really
[40:18] hard to have a full-time officer in my
[40:20] school at Landmark High School.
[40:23] And I finally got it and
[40:25] made a world of difference. Um if we can
[40:28] pull this off and I know it's
[40:30] uh Chief First is going to have to have
[40:31] say on this and how it's going to work,
[40:33] but if we can make this happen,
[40:35] so worth it for our children. We we need
[40:38] to figure out a way to get the officers
[40:39] in more. It just works. It does.
[40:41] >> Well, and this is so much more than just
[40:43] getting an officer in a class. I don't
[40:45] Nobody knows this, but when
[40:47] they graduated the uh
[40:49] the student academy that they did, there
[40:52] was a young man in here that was in my
[40:53] NOVA class when he was in sixth grade.
[40:56] And he graduated from high school last
[40:58] year and we had a great relationship all
[41:00] through the his years in high school and
[41:02] it was because of the NOVA program. This
[41:04] is about building relationships.
[41:05] >> Yeah.
[41:06] >> With kids and they they do see officers
[41:08] in a different light and they remember
[41:09] their NOVA instructors.
[41:11] And I I think it's a worthwhile and it's
[41:13] worth us figuring this out.
[41:16] >> Agreed.
[41:19] » This is certainly one of those things
[41:20] that we haven't talked about and uh
[41:23] yeah, one of those things that it sounds
[41:25] like we need to make some decision on.
[41:29] Um I know we're not ready to do it
[41:31] tonight and we've only got 2 months
[41:33] before school starts.
[41:35] And uh
[41:37] 13 weeks doesn't take all of that and it
[41:40] may be a week later or something like
[41:42] that depending on the time,
[41:45] but uh I would suggest that we make this
[41:49] a a topic
[41:51] with some more information that we have
[41:53] over the next
[41:55] year or the next
[41:57] uh month so that
[41:59] in the first meeting in
[42:02] July,
[42:04] we should be able to look at it and and
[42:06] a couple of other things and maybe have
[42:08] a pathway to
[42:10] how can we pay for this
[42:12] and make it work, you know?
[42:15] The kids are our community. Everything
[42:17] we do, we should be doing for the safety
[42:19] and the well-being of the kids.
[42:23] And um
[42:25] I think if if you guys, especially where
[42:28] you've worked in education,
[42:31] I don't [clears throat] know if you ever
[42:32] graduated in this
[42:33] and in law enforcement and I know you're
[42:35] retired, so
[42:37] but you guys have a good outlook on this
[42:40] with Chief here tonight
[42:43] knowing
[42:44] maybe what we need to look at and maybe
[42:46] even coming up with a plan. How could we
[42:48] make something like this work? In the
[42:50] meantime, we'll have a couple of work
[42:52] sessions and then hopefully have
[42:54] something that we can present in the
[42:56] next couple of weeks.
[42:58] 3 weeks maybe before the first meeting
[43:00] in July. So
[43:05] would that work?
[43:06] >> Yes, and I'm available for any questions
[43:09] or issues. Andrea
[43:11] knows all the things about the school as
[43:13] well. Um we are very dedicated in
[43:17] wanting this to happen.
[43:19] Um this and, you know, the crosswalks
[43:22] and the stop signs and and whatnot. So
[43:24] >> We just don't want to paint paint
[43:26] gravel. We we'll have to figure that out
[43:29] so it's a little more permanent.
[43:31] >> Yeah.
[43:32] >> Okay. Yes, but yes, whatever you guys
[43:35] need on my end
[43:37] um and the school, we Ms. Rimmel was
[43:40] very much
[43:41] um an advocate for this as well. So
[43:44] >> Melanie, can you can you send your
[43:46] slides to Norm so that we could have a
[43:48] copy to be able to
[43:50] you know, go by there and and you know,
[43:52] navigate it if that's helpful. That
[43:54] would be helpful.
[43:54] >> Yep, no problem.
[43:56] Um
[43:57] I'll need your email address.
[43:59] >> Okay.
[44:01] Thank you. Thank you for being here
[44:03] tonight.
[44:04] >> for listening.
[44:06] >> All right. Uh building permits.
[44:15] » Yeah, Mayor [clears throat] and Council,
[44:16] I just noticed you bringing that up.
[44:18] I'll I guess I'll just verbally tell
[44:19] you. Uh right now for the calendar year,
[44:22] we're currently at 150 new residential
[44:25] dwelling units made up of 73 single
[44:27] family and 77 multi-family.
[44:30] At this time last calendar year, we were
[44:31] 157, so
[44:34] right around the same. Uh
[44:36] kind of on the same pace.
[44:38] >> [clears throat]
[44:38] >> Fiscal year wise, we're a little bit
[44:40] behind where we were. We're about to
[44:42] wrap up the fiscal year. We've only got
[44:43] half a month left. Uh we're currently at
[44:45] 222
[44:47] made up of 117 single family, 105
[44:49] multi-family. Uh this time last fiscal
[44:52] year, we were up to 277, so uh
[44:56] but you can see previous years that
[44:59] we're kind of in the mid 200s anyway, so
[45:01] not not a not too far off of where where
[45:04] the average is.
[45:06] New business licenses, you can see the
[45:07] list there. Uh there's one new
[45:10] commercial that is a kind of a food
[45:12] truck uh for shakes and Iceberg. It's
[45:15] our understanding that that that food
[45:17] truck will be mostly up in Salt Lake
[45:18] County, but the the kind of
[45:20] um
[45:22] I don't know.
[45:23] The
[45:27] uh headquarters, if you will, or or kind
[45:29] of the where it's stationed is going to be
[45:31] out of Santaquin. And then there's the
[45:33] four home occupations, so I can answer
[45:35] any questions you have about those
[45:37] business licenses.
[45:38] >> first address?
[45:42] » Oh, looks like it looks like maybe a
[45:44] phone number got added into the address.
[45:46] That's basically the It should be the
[45:48] average address of the uh the the
[45:51] Iceberg that we have here. Yep.
[45:56] » Okay.
[45:58] Um
[46:00] that takes care of that.
[46:02] Resolution ordinance and discussion
[46:04] possible action on
[46:07] um
[46:09] the municipal wastewater planning
[46:12] program survey. [clears throat]
[46:16] » Now, Mayor and Council, this is
[46:18] yearly municipal wastewater planning
[46:21] program report that we have to do.
[46:23] Uh Jason Callaway, our public works
[46:25] director, has filled that out and
[46:26] submitted it to the state, and this is a
[46:28] resolution just indicating that we're
[46:31] um
[46:34] informing the water quality board that
[46:35] this is our survey. So, happy to answer
[46:39] any questions, and we have
[46:41] public works director Callaway here,
[46:42] too, as well.
[46:44] >> As I was reading through this survey and
[46:47] this questionnaire, I was just happy
[46:49] that it was Jason that had to fill it
[46:50] out and it wasn't me.
[46:52] >> There's a lot of boxes there.
[46:54] >> A lot of yeses all the way. A couple of
[46:56] no's.
[46:57] >> But I But I did I did make a a couple of
[47:00] notes. Um there's around 77 mi of sewer
[47:03] pipe in our town.
[47:05] I I tried to figure out where from
[47:08] Santaquin was 77 mi. Lagoon is 80 mi.
[47:12] So, we have enough sewer pipe to go from
[47:14] here to Lagoon if it was all in one
[47:16] straight line.
[47:17] Um that's that's pretty amazing.
[47:21] Fortunately, it doesn't all fail at the
[47:22] same time.
[47:24] And I guess we have about 5,500 and
[47:27] 85 equivalent residential connections.
[47:31] So,
[47:32] it's a lot of connections. And as Jason
[47:34] told me today, a lot of manholes.
[47:37] >> [clears throat]
[47:38] >> Thank you, Jason.
[47:39] >> Literally all downhill uphill from here
[47:43] to Lagoon. So, maybe if we did that,
[47:45] we'd fill the Great Salt Lake.
[47:48] >> It's downhill from here to the
[47:50] treatment plant.
[47:50] >> Yeah, there you go.
[47:53] Okay.
[47:54] Any questions on that?
[47:57] I know you have to do that about every
[47:59] year, don't you?
[48:02] So, I would entertain a motion on that
[48:04] resolution.
[48:07] >> Mr. Mayor, I'll make a motion we approve
[48:09] resolution 0603-2026,
[48:12] municipal water wastewater planning
[48:15] program.
[48:17] >> Is there a second?
[48:19] >> I'll second.
[48:21] >> Moved and seconded. Brian?
[48:22] >> Aye.
[48:23] >> Art?
[48:23] >> Aye.
[48:24] >> Jeff?
[48:24] >> Aye.
[48:25] >> Lynn?
[48:25] >> Aye.
[48:26] >> Travis?
[48:26] >> Aye.
[48:27] >> Motion passed. Fee schedule update
[48:31] 604.
[48:33] >> Yeah, Mayor and Council, this is the
[48:35] annual, again, fee schedule update.
[48:39] Um there's quite a bit in here. One
[48:42] the
[48:43] main impetus of this is to just update
[48:45] our fee schedule for anything from
[48:47] street lights to signs to our annual
[48:50] cost of living adjustment to our
[48:52] utilities
[48:53] and other items that are in here. I'm
[48:55] happy to answer any questions that you
[48:56] have on it,
[48:57] but it's fairly straightforward.
[49:03] » Are there any?
[49:07] Okay, then I would entertain a motion on
[49:09] the fee schedule.
[49:15] » Mr. Mayor, I'll make a motion we approve
[49:16] resolution 0604-2026,
[49:20] resolution establishing the fee schedule
[49:22] for Santaquin City.
[49:24] >> A motion, is there a second?
[49:28] >> I'll second.
[49:29] >> Moved and seconded. Travis?
[49:31] >> Aye.
[49:32] >> Lynn?
[49:33] >> Aye.
[49:33] >> Jeff?
[49:34] >> Aye.
[49:34] >> Art?
[49:34] >> Aye.
[49:35] >> Brian?
[49:35] >> Aye.
[49:36] >> Motion passed. Let's go to 605, the
[49:39] certified tax rate.
[49:42] >> Yeah, Mayor and Council, as indicated in
[49:44] the in the resolution, this is a
[49:46] resolution to adopt
[49:48] a certified tax rate as set forth by the
[49:52] state tax commission.
[49:56] The combined tax rate, should this be
[49:57] adopted, would be .00
[50:00] 1399.
[50:03] And
[50:07] the form that is provided by the state
[50:10] is behind that. Let me pull that up so
[50:12] you can see that as well. This is the
[50:13] actual official
[50:15] a form but from the state.
[50:17] This would adopt a uh
[50:20] the certified tax rate and would
[50:22] therefore put it towards the budget and
[50:25] should this be adopted tonight, the the
[50:28] uh truth in taxation
[50:30] for a potential property tax increase
[50:32] would be um
[50:34] no more and we move forward with a
[50:36] should the final budget be adopted and
[50:38] this be adopted tonight. Happy to answer
[50:39] any questions that you have about that.
[50:43] >> I did I did want to say um
[50:47] When we have to meet as a council
[50:52] in March and after February we've gone
[50:55] through
[50:57] tax preparation
[50:58] in order to look at what we have for
[51:01] revenues for the budget, which has to be
[51:03] pa- passed in
[51:06] April and then again in May and then
[51:08] again in the 1st of June and now one
[51:11] more time
[51:12] um
[51:13] we have to go through new laws that have
[51:16] been passed, which is called the truth
[51:18] in taxation.
[51:20] In order to get to those
[51:22] you either have to make some kind of an
[51:24] estimation of where you'll be
[51:27] when when the whole thing comes about or
[51:31] where this number lies. And so we try to
[51:34] outguess that number and say, "Well,
[51:36] according to
[51:38] uh
[51:39] cost of living, everything else
[51:42] in order for us to to hit where we stand
[51:46] what are we going to have to do? So, you
[51:48] enter in the first week of March, truth
[51:51] and taxation.
[51:53] Which is set up because we have to look
[51:55] at what this mill levy is going to do
[51:58] and you're trying to outguess
[52:01] the state and
[52:03] uh everyone else
[52:06] well in advance of this time of year.
[52:10] Now, the real trick is we don't get this
[52:13] number until last Thursday night at
[52:15] 4:00.
[52:16] >> Yeah.
[52:17] >> And we have to make a decision so that
[52:20] we can publish it and say, "Well, is
[52:23] everything that we looked at in
[52:25] accordance with
[52:27] how our budget laid out and where our
[52:31] expected revenues from this will be and
[52:34] if we're actually utilizing
[52:37] the amount of money that will come
[52:39] through that mill levy that's assessed.
[52:42] When when the
[52:45] bottom line came out that it was .0001.
[52:50] Uh what did that end up being? Like 33
[52:53] cents a month
[52:56] difference for the tax bill?
[52:59] >> I think it's about 16 cents.
[53:01] >> Yeah.
[53:01] >> A month difference.
[53:02] >> Yeah. 16 cents.
[53:04] >> On the average home per month.
[53:06] >> So,
[53:08] you know what? There's a lot of work to
[53:10] go through to come up with that even
[53:11] though it ends up
[53:13] um
[53:15] >> [cough and clears throat]
[53:16] >> Excuse me.
[53:19] Being 16,000, I think in the long run we
[53:22] look at the pros and cons of it. Are we
[53:24] looking after the money? I think we're
[53:27] being wise.
[53:29] Would we be asking for more if we stuck
[53:31] with the number that we had proposed
[53:33] because we had to look at the way the revenue was expected and everything
[53:38] else. I I believe we've we're looking at
[53:41] the right decision here. So,
[53:44] um
[53:46] in the end, it's a small amount of
[53:49] change in that mill levy. I think we're
[53:52] good to move forward and
[53:54] we can get away from the truth in
[53:56] taxation and just accept it and go.
[54:01] So.
[54:03] >> Can I Can I add some comments? Sure.
[54:05] >> Um
[54:07] I mean
[54:08] everybody loves a lower tax. Um and so
[54:11] maybe this is like really unpopular.
[54:13] Um
[54:14] uh
[54:16] but
[54:17] I've stated in past budget meetings
[54:19] I'm really a proponent of holding the
[54:21] rate
[54:22] steady. So, say for example, it's not
[54:24] 5%, it's 0.00 something percent, right?
[54:28] If it's 5% and it automatically goes
[54:30] down to 4%,
[54:32] I like holding the rate steady to 5% for
[54:35] example, that's an example.
[54:37] Um because that captures inflation. And
[54:40] I know that we're meeting our needs now,
[54:43] but what I worry about is that it's
[54:45] kicking the can down the road when there
[54:47] are
[54:48] expenses that will grow.
[54:50] Um
[54:51] Shannon has done an amazing job at
[54:54] finding so many savings uh
[54:56] opportunities.
[54:57] Um she's been amazing. When I've reached
[54:59] out to Shannon, always been responsive
[55:01] and crazy ideas that I have that
[55:03] probably are wild goose chases about can
[55:05] we save money on these fees? Can we save
[55:07] And so that's been really great, but
[55:10] eventually there's only so much saving
[55:12] you can do.
[55:13] Um
[55:15] and as our city grows and as there's
[55:16] additional expenses,
[55:18] um
[55:20] I I am a proponent of holding the tax
[55:23] rate steady,
[55:24] um which
[55:26] honestly is a tax increase because it
[55:28] automatically is going to go down with
[55:30] the typical assessment. Um but I view it
[55:33] as holding it the same, not going down
[55:35] or not going up.
[55:36] But I I We talked about it as a council
[55:39] before, but I like the idea of that
[55:42] because it doesn't result in a huge
[55:45] increase years later.
[55:47] Um and there's always things that I
[55:49] think we could set aside the money for.
[55:52] Um
[55:53] obviously I'm a conservative, so I'm
[55:55] hesitant about let's give more money to
[55:57] the government, we'll find millions of
[55:59] ways to spend it. But, I think that
[56:00] there's a lot of valid ways that we can
[56:02] spend it. One of the issues that was
[56:04] brought up was around employee benefits.
[56:09] And we cover the health care premium
[56:11] 100% for our um employees that have the
[56:15] opportunity to opt into that. I think
[56:17] that's a great benefit.
[56:19] Um but, I don't think that it's
[56:22] sustainable. And if we're going to
[56:24] include those in, even though we were
[56:26] able to find so many savings this year,
[56:28] which is amazing,
[56:30] I think that it's more sustainable to
[56:31] keep the tax rate steady, um
[56:34] in my opinion. I just wanted to voice
[56:35] that.
[56:37] >> Well, I I do want to say and I I was
[56:39] going to say this earlier and that is
[56:42] it all [clears throat] starts over again
[56:43] in February. And in March we make that
[56:46] decision one more time and you know
[56:50] I know it's a hit that we have to take
[56:53] because
[56:54] the majority of the residents don't
[56:57] understand all that you have to go
[56:59] through
[57:01] in order to to
[57:03] uh
[57:05] let the state know you're doing
[57:06] everything right, but also let the
[57:08] residents know in the taxes that they
[57:11] pay that we are
[57:13] watching over all of those continually.
[57:16] To me it's .0001
[57:19] and um
[57:22] I just think, okay, well, it's a breath
[57:24] of air, but it's only
[57:26] 16 cents.
[57:28] Okay.
[57:29] Well, next year it may be just a little
[57:32] bit more, but even at the very worst
[57:34] part we were only looking at
[57:37] price of a big gulp a month, you know.
[57:40] It may be a, you know,
[57:44] a little bit more the next time, but at
[57:46] least this time we can say, "Okay, we
[57:48] didn't have to do it." So,
[57:51] that's my feeling.
[57:54] Art?
[57:55] >> And in the resolution a third whereas
[57:57] says um acknowledging the fact that part
[58:00] of our communities in two counties and
[58:02] recognizes Utah County and Juab County.
[58:05] However, if you turn to the next page
[58:07] form PT 800, it only references Utah
[58:11] County at the top.
[58:13] >> Um yeah, they're all identical for both
[58:14] counties. The the rate the tax rate and
[58:16] everything will be identical and I
[58:18] apologize. I can pull that one up. I did
[58:20] not put it in the packet. Um let me let
[58:22] me pull that up really quick and I can
[58:24] show it here now.
[58:24] >> Just as long as as it's recognized and
[58:27] um
[58:28] >> It would be the same mill mill levy
[58:30] rate.
[58:31] Hang on just 1 second. I think it's
[58:32] around $1,000 total for
[58:35] and I apologize for not having that in
[58:36] there.
[58:41] » Issues we hope to resolve someday.
[58:44] >> Yes.
[58:45] >> Supposed to resolve it long ago.
[58:46] >> Yeah, that's what I thought.
[58:51] » [clears throat]
[58:52] >> Long as it's been recognized on that's
[58:53] fine. Thank you.
[58:54] >> I do want to show it though so that we
[58:56] have it in the in the in the minutes.
[58:58] So, let me just pull it up really quick.
[59:11] Apologize for that error. Hang on.
[59:49] » So, if I pull that form over here,
[59:50] you'll be able to see that that is
[59:54] the same It's It's about $1,070 and it
[59:57] would be the same tax rate as in Utah
[1:00:00] County. So, I apologize for that. We'll
[1:00:02] have that to the minutes as well.
[1:00:06] » Okay.
[1:00:06] >> I appreciate it.
[1:00:07] >> Any other questions?
[1:00:10] >> No.
[1:00:11] >> We good?
[1:00:12] Then, I would entertain a motion on
[1:00:16] the
[1:00:17] 0605.
[1:00:21] » I'll make a motion to approve resolution
[1:00:23] 0605-2026.
[1:00:26] » Motion made by Brian.
[1:00:28] >> I'll second.
[1:00:30] >> Seconded by Jeff Travis.
[1:00:32] >> I.
[1:00:33] >> Then?
[1:00:33] >> I.
[1:00:34] >> Jeff?
[1:00:35] >> I.
[1:00:35] >> Art?
[1:00:36] >> I.
[1:00:36] >> Brian?
[1:00:37] >> I.
[1:00:38] >> Thank you. Now, we need to go into adopt
[1:00:41] the resolution for the final bud- budget
[1:00:44] 0606.
[1:00:48] » So, mayor and council resolution 0606
[1:00:50] would be the adoption of a fiscal year
[1:00:51] budget based on two things that have
[1:00:53] already been approved. One is the the uh
[1:00:56] fee schedule update and the the one that
[1:00:58] we just passed was the uh certified tax
[1:01:00] rate. And the final budget has been
[1:01:02] presented. We spent quite a bit of time
[1:01:04] going over that in the in the work
[1:01:06] session. However, if anybody has any
[1:01:08] questions on those items that we talked
[1:01:10] about that are the changes from the
[1:01:12] tentative to the final, I I can answer
[1:01:14] Shannon can help answer those questions.
[1:01:17] >> Yeah, we went over over them in the
[1:01:19] preceding meeting. Is there anything
[1:01:22] else you want to go over?
[1:01:29] » Just if the council were to approve it,
[1:01:31] the motion would just need to include
[1:01:33] the three changes we talked about to the water,
[1:01:37] sewer, and the library fund.
[1:01:40] >> Li- library, right? Not
[1:01:41] >> No, it's it's the
[1:01:43] >> It's the li- library.
[1:01:45] >> Oh, it's the library. Yes, right.
[1:01:45] >> Library wages, yeah. Library wages.
[1:01:47] >> So, water, sewer, and the library fund.
[1:01:50] >> Those were the green cells. We can pull
[1:01:51] them back up again if you want to see
[1:01:53] them, but those were the three items.
[1:01:54] >> Three written there.
[1:01:55] >> Yeah, those are just changes from the um final budget that was sent out to
[1:01:59] you that need to be changed before we
[1:02:01] submit it to the state.
[1:02:06] » So, this is
[1:02:07] >> [clears throat]
[1:02:07] >> the budget for
[1:02:09] next year.
[1:02:12] Uh are there any questions or
[1:02:15] anything you want to add? We went
[1:02:17] through it
[1:02:18] in some detail in the previous meeting,
[1:02:21] so it's gone through video, too.
[1:02:26] Then, uh I would entertain a motion on
[1:02:29] resolution 0606.
[1:02:32] » Mr. Mayor, I'll make a motion that we
[1:02:34] approve resolution 0606-2026
[1:02:39] with the three changes to the water,
[1:02:40] sewer, and library.
[1:02:44] >> I'll second that motion.
[1:02:46] >> Moved and seconded. Travis?
[1:02:49] >> Aye.
[1:02:49] >> Lan?
[1:02:50] >> Aye.
[1:02:50] >> Jeff?
[1:02:51] >> Aye.
[1:02:52] >> Art?
[1:02:52] >> Aye.
[1:02:53] >> Ryan?
[1:02:53] >> Aye.
[1:02:55] >> Motion passed. Now, we need to look at
[1:02:57] 0607, the URS service agreement.
[1:03:03] » So, again, discussed this in the work
[1:03:04] session. This is the the URS service
[1:03:07] agreement that allows for Roth 457 and
[1:03:11] 401ks
[1:03:13] for all um
[1:03:16] URS salary
[1:03:18] employees of the city.
[1:03:19] >> Just just to identify so people are
[1:03:22] listening to this, URS stands for the
[1:03:25] Utah Retirement System.
[1:03:27] >> Correct. Utah Retirement System. This is
[1:03:28] the the
[1:03:30] um, retirement system that Utah has set
[1:03:33] up for public employees.
[1:03:39] » So, we went through those issues. Are
[1:03:41] there any any items you want to bring
[1:03:43] up?
[1:03:46] Okay.
[1:03:47] >> Um, I I have I have one question and I
[1:03:50] think it kind of ties to
[1:03:52] and Shannon, I think this question is
[1:03:54] for you that I wrote down.
[1:03:56] We talked about in the last meeting,
[1:03:58] um,
[1:03:59] that there are like some liabilities
[1:04:01] that now are becoming expenses from
[1:04:03] employees opting in to benefits.
[1:04:06] Um, this is kind of
[1:04:09] I don't know if it deals with the URS.
[1:04:12] >> No.
[1:04:12] >> Uh, no. URS, what the city pays is
[1:04:15] required by the state.
[1:04:16] >> Okay. So,
[1:04:17] are we setting aside money for
[1:04:20] like how are we accounting? Do you have
[1:04:22] a number of like, this is how much could
[1:04:24] be called for us to pay if every
[1:04:26] employee exercised their right to enroll
[1:04:29] in benefits?
[1:04:31] >> Um,
[1:04:33] everybody that is
[1:04:34] >> That's eligible.
[1:04:35] >> Yes. So,
[1:04:37] um, we don't have an accounting. We we
[1:04:38] currently have, um, I would say six or
[1:04:41] seven employees that are waiving the
[1:04:43] benefits.
[1:04:44] >> Okay.
[1:04:44] >> Um, but no, we don't have like a set
[1:04:46] aside funding, uh, from year to year
[1:04:48] that if they pick up the benefits, then
[1:04:50] we pull from that fund.
[1:04:52] >> Okay.
[1:04:54] I was this made me think of it and I
[1:04:56] meant to ask it during the other one,
[1:04:57] but I was just concerned of like, ah,
[1:04:59] what if everybody decides that and then
[1:05:01] we have to make unexpected cuts
[1:05:03] elsewhere or some I don't know. So,
[1:05:07] okay.
[1:05:08] >> Yeah. We um, fortunately we don't have a
[1:05:10] ton of employees that waive it, but we
[1:05:12] do save a ton of money when they do
[1:05:14] waive it.
[1:05:14] >> Yeah.
[1:05:15] >> So.
[1:05:15] >> It's just it's not always guaranteed if
[1:05:17] they
[1:05:17] >> Right, exactly.
[1:05:18] >> That's the That's the thing.
[1:05:18] >> And they may even have life changes that
[1:05:20] >> Can they enroll whenever they want or is
[1:05:22] there
[1:05:22] >> Um we have open enrollment and that is
[1:05:25] >> without a life.
[1:05:26] change, yeah. If they
[1:05:27] have a life change and they lose
[1:05:29] coverage their coverage they're
[1:05:30] currently have, then yes, they can
[1:05:31] enroll at that time.
[1:05:32] >> Or if they leave and someone replaces
[1:05:35] them and that one wants to be in it, do
[1:05:36] they have
[1:05:37] >> Yes.
[1:05:37] >> Right, and just make that happen.
[1:05:38] >> Yep. Yep.
[1:05:40] So
[1:05:41] this this particular item doesn't have
[1:05:42] anything to do with the health insurance
[1:05:43] benefits. That's health insurance. This
[1:05:45] is This is state retirement, so it's
[1:05:47] totally different and it's we pay what's
[1:05:49] mandated by state by state law.
[1:05:51] >> And if employees there's a percentage,
[1:05:53] isn't it?
[1:05:54] >> It's a percentage for each fund. Yes, it
[1:05:57] and it's different for each fund. You
[1:05:58] have public safety fund, you have a
[1:05:59] firefighter fund, and you have public
[1:06:01] employee funds.
[1:06:02] >> Okay.
[1:06:06] » Any other questions?
[1:06:09] Then I would entertain a motion on
[1:06:11] resolution 06-07.
[1:06:14] >> I'd make a motion to adopt resolution
[1:06:17] 06-07 2026, a resolution authorizing
[1:06:20] Santaquin City signing a new service
[1:06:22] agreement with the Utah State Retirement
[1:06:24] System URS.
[1:06:27] >> I'll second that motion.
[1:06:28] >> I had a motion and a second in.
[1:06:31] Um Travis.
[1:06:32] >> Aye.
[1:06:34] >> Lynn.
[1:06:35] >> Aye.
[1:06:36] >> Jeff.
[1:06:36] >> Aye.
[1:06:37] >> Art.
[1:06:37] >> Aye.
[1:06:38] >> Ryan.
[1:06:39] >> Aye.
[1:06:40] >> Motion passed and uh
[1:06:43] that moves us on to 608.
[1:06:46] The URS employer election pickup.
[1:06:50] >> Yeah, so as as Shannon indicated
[1:06:52] previously, this is the the public
[1:06:54] safety tier two
[1:06:56] um
[1:06:57] firefighter and police contributions.
[1:07:00] This is a pickup going from 4.73% to
[1:07:03] 5.98%.
[1:07:04] It is budgeted and and
[1:07:07] um
[1:07:08] happy to answer any questions that you
[1:07:09] have about that.
[1:07:12] >> I I did have a question.
[1:07:14] It
[1:07:14] What is the match required for that?
[1:07:17] Could they are they opting out of the
[1:07:19] URS to then do the 401K
[1:07:23] whether it's Roth or or or those other
[1:07:25] solutions or can they do both and are we
[1:07:27] required to pay for the pension and a
[1:07:30] contribution to the 401K or what that
[1:07:33] other alternative?
[1:07:34] >> So, there are there are two options for
[1:07:36] tier two um both in public safety and
[1:07:39] public
[1:07:40] employee.
[1:07:42] Um
[1:07:42] one's called the hybrid and one's called
[1:07:45] the the savings plan or the 401K.
[1:07:48] An employee that's in tier two which is
[1:07:50] anybody that was hired after a certain
[1:07:52] date that the legislation changed um
[1:07:54] they have a year to decide which plan
[1:07:56] they want to be in. Um but yes, there are percentages for each of those.
[1:08:02] In the defined benefit, the amount that
[1:08:04] the city pays in doesn't cover the total
[1:08:06] cost and so they're asking the employee
[1:08:08] to pay part of their retirement. And
[1:08:10] that's where we have the option by state
[1:08:12] law to pick up that amount.
[1:08:14] Um and and we can only pick that up for
[1:08:17] public safety. They did the same thing a
[1:08:18] couple years ago for public employee. We
[1:08:20] don't pick that up but we have picked it
[1:08:22] up for public safety.
[1:08:24] >> Okay.
[1:08:25] So,
[1:08:26] their portion is the 5.98%. What's the
[1:08:29] employer portion? Is it the same?
[1:08:31] >> Um no, it is I would have to go get
[1:08:33] >> it changes every year.
[1:08:34] >> year.
[1:08:35] >> Yeah, seems like this does, too.
[1:08:36] >> Yeah.
[1:08:38] >> Well, is it higher or lower? I'm just
[1:08:39] curious. It doesn't
[1:08:40] >> It's a lot higher. So, a total across
[1:08:42] the board is about 30%.
[1:08:44] >> Oh, wow.
[1:08:45] >> So, they're asking the employee to pay
[1:08:46] 5.98% of the amount that goes in to
[1:08:50] their retirement.
[1:08:51] >> that for them and putting it in so they
[1:08:52] can keep that in their own paycheck.
[1:08:54] >> Yeah, so what we did um a couple years
[1:08:56] ago Well, how long has it been that
[1:08:57] we've done the parity? 10 years ago?
[1:08:59] >> 10 or 12 years ago.
[1:09:00] >> So, when this first changed, um
[1:09:03] the council at the time decided that
[1:09:06] they wanted to keep the tier one equal
[1:09:08] tier to the tier two. And so, whatever
[1:09:11] that amount is, um the difference
[1:09:13] between the two, we have put into what's
[1:09:16] called a parity. It started out at about
[1:09:18] 5% um that we would pay into a tier one
[1:09:21] from a into a tier two's just a a 401K
[1:09:24] to make them equal to a tier one. This
[1:09:27] change to the 4.73 to the 5.98 would
[1:09:30] just reduce that parity. So, we're not
[1:09:32] paying any more than we would have. It's
[1:09:34] just reducing that parity amount.
[1:09:36] >> Okay.
[1:09:38] >> [snorts]
[1:09:39] >> So, [clears throat]
[1:09:40] I think I'm having trouble
[1:09:41] understanding.
[1:09:43] In like simple terms, I maybe it's not
[1:09:45] simple terms because obviously I'm
[1:09:47] struggling here.
[1:09:48] >> Let me Let me do this. So,
[1:09:49] >> are we doing is it a match or are we
[1:09:53] doing the entire contribution for 41 for
[1:09:56] the alternative to the pension?
[1:09:59] Or is it an addition?
[1:10:02] >> Is Is it an addition?
[1:10:04] >> So, like say if I'm public safety and I
[1:10:06] go to my retirement, I already have the
[1:10:08] URS,
[1:10:10] can I elect to do the Roth
[1:10:12] solution?
[1:10:13] >> So, those are totally separate things. So,
[1:10:16] we're talking about the retirement part
[1:10:18] of it, the two different retirements
[1:10:19] apart of it. The other thing that we
[1:10:21] talked about is savings plans for our
[1:10:23] employees. So, those are totally
[1:10:25] different things. The Roth 401K, 457,
[1:10:28] the traditional IRA, the Roth IRA, the
[1:10:31] 457, the 401K, those are all employee
[1:10:35] contributions. We don't contribute
[1:10:36] anything to those.
[1:10:38] >> And and those are just new options that
[1:10:40] they've had for their investment
[1:10:41] vehicles. They not had Roth 457 or 401Ks
[1:10:45] before, but they're now opening that up
[1:10:46] to them. But, let me let me see if I can
[1:10:48] help with the with the tier one and tier
[1:10:51] two. So, about I don't know, 10 or 12
[1:10:52] years ago,
[1:10:54] tier one was right here. Have this this
[1:10:56] amount of benefit. Tier two have this
[1:10:58] amount of benefit because because the
[1:11:01] state law changed in 2011. I think it
[1:11:03] was July 1st, 2011.
[1:11:05] So, at the time the council said a few
[1:11:08] years later the council said, "Okay, we
[1:11:10] want to help bring tier two up to be
[1:11:13] in parity with tier one. So, we are
[1:11:15] going to for public safety only. This is
[1:11:17] only public safety. There's no parity
[1:11:19] for any other public employees but
[1:11:21] public safety. So, at that time it was
[1:11:23] 5%. That that difference in the parity
[1:11:25] from what they were getting and what we
[1:11:27] added to it from the city was about 5%.
[1:11:30] That that now down is is down to about
[1:11:32] 2% now, 2% a little bit. So, this extra
[1:11:35] 1.25 it just eats into that little bit
[1:11:37] of parity to now pick up for that
[1:11:39] portion of public safety for their
[1:11:41] portion of it. Our portion of it stayed
[1:11:44] the same. It doesn't and it changes year
[1:11:45] to year.
[1:11:47] So, it really is just a shift in how
[1:11:50] they're seeing the money whether it goes
[1:11:51] into a 401k here or whether it goes in
[1:11:53] and we're paying it to a 401k on their
[1:11:55] behalf for the pick up. There's no
[1:11:57] change in value or in cost to us for
[1:12:02] the amount that we're paying.
[1:12:03] >> that that's the thing is like they could
[1:12:04] say, "Hey, I don't want a pension. I
[1:12:06] want to enroll in this." And then we
[1:12:08] just contribute that same equal amount.
[1:12:10] That Okay, that's what I was confused
[1:12:12] about. I was like, "Are we agreeing to
[1:12:13] that and a match or something?" That's
[1:12:16] what I was confused about. Okay. Yeah.
[1:12:18] Okay. That's really
[1:12:21] >> That's Well, that's really that's a
[1:12:22] really great benefit. I mean
[1:12:24] >> There's three types of employees.
[1:12:25] There's tier one, which is mostly a
[1:12:28] pension. There's tier two hybrid, which
[1:12:32] is partially a pension and partially a
[1:12:34] 401k contribution.
[1:12:37] And then there's a tier two defined
[1:12:40] contribution, which is just a
[1:12:41] contribution to a 401k. Those are the
[1:12:44] types of employees. The Roth and all
[1:12:47] those those are types of funding options
[1:12:49] that employees can elect to
[1:12:51] >> savings plans that they can elect to
[1:12:53] take money out of their paycheck and put
[1:12:55] into.
[1:12:55] >> Yeah. Can they do it in addition? That's
[1:12:58] what I'm saying, in addition to the
[1:12:59] pension.
[1:13:00] >> Yes.
[1:13:00] >> on their own. It's not
[1:13:01] >> No, we don't we don't put anything in
[1:13:03] there, but they can take money out of
[1:13:04] their own paycheck and put in those
[1:13:06] savings plans.
[1:13:07] >> And that was the previous agenda
[1:13:08] >> and we actually encourage them to do
[1:13:10] that.
[1:13:10] >> That was the previous agenda item is
[1:13:12] they give two new funding
[1:13:14] or two
[1:13:15] >> mechanisms
[1:13:16] >> uh
[1:13:16] retirement options to put put money
[1:13:19] towards.
[1:13:20] >> that's on the employee.
[1:13:21] >> Cuz I'm I'm seeing
[1:13:22] employee
[1:13:23] >> See that fourth whereas there where it
[1:13:25] says
[1:13:27] um
[1:13:29] make an equal 401k employer contribution
[1:13:33] as required by law. That's where I was
[1:13:35] confused. I'm like
[1:13:36] >> where it the parity amount it goes into
[1:13:39] a 401k.
[1:13:41] So that's why it says 401k contribution.
[1:13:43] So the parity amount that we're paying
[1:13:45] to make the tier one to tier two equal,
[1:13:47] it goes automatically into a 401k. We
[1:13:50] don't we don't allow them to to take our
[1:13:53] contribution and put it anywhere else in
[1:13:54] except for a 401k.
[1:13:56] >> Okay. That makes sense. Thanks.
[1:13:59] Okay.
[1:14:00] Are there any questions?
[1:14:03] >> I'm kind of curious how many other
[1:14:04] cities take up the employee pay the
[1:14:07] employee contribution completely like we
[1:14:09] are.
[1:14:09] >> So it's actually a range. Some some have
[1:14:12] chosen to go to like 5%, some are
[1:14:14] picking up the whole thing. Because
[1:14:16] >> [laughter]
[1:14:16] >> because we have the parity it's again
[1:14:18] it's equal dollars. There's no budget
[1:14:20] impact to us where others may have a
[1:14:22] budget impact. Okay.
[1:14:23] >> Well, I realize it's a good benefit. I'm
[1:14:25] just wondering how
[1:14:28] it compares to other cities and how we
[1:14:29] can present that for recruiting and
[1:14:32] whatnot.
[1:14:33] >> So um there was a survey going around.
[1:14:36] Um
[1:14:37] we we talked about this about a month
[1:14:39] and a half or so ago. Mayor asked me to
[1:14:41] send something around. Um I sent out an
[1:14:43] email and then Orem City had actually
[1:14:45] sent out something else for another
[1:14:46] survey. They added a line to it said,
[1:14:48] "What are you guys What are you What are
[1:14:49] you guys doing for the 401K or the the
[1:14:52] pick up amount?" Majority of public
[1:14:54] safety entities are picking up the
[1:14:56] entire thing.
[1:14:57] >> Okay.
[1:14:57] >> There are some. Uh Spanish Fork is
[1:15:00] picking up 5% and having the employee
[1:15:02] pick up 0.98. Um
[1:15:05] there are some that leaving it at 4.73,
[1:15:08] but a majority of the ones that were
[1:15:09] surveyed are actually picking up the
[1:15:11] whole thing.
[1:15:11] >> Okay.
[1:15:12] Then we definitely need to keep doing
[1:15:13] that.
[1:15:14] >> Which which again is the the whole
[1:15:16] >> Yeah.
[1:15:20] Wanted to make sure that we'd covered
[1:15:21] ourselves with all of that, too, and we
[1:15:23] weren't stepping out in front of
[1:15:25] everybody. We don't need to lead the
[1:15:26] show.
[1:15:27] >> Yeah.
[1:15:28] >> We certainly want to retain the officers
[1:15:31] and that's an investment that we have.
[1:15:33] >> I agree.
[1:15:34] >> Okay.
[1:15:35] Um any other questions?
[1:15:37] Then I'd entertain a motion on 0608.
[1:15:42] >> I'll make a motion to approve resolution
[1:15:43] 0608-2026.
[1:15:45] >> I'll second it.
[1:15:46] >> Moved and seconded. Travis?
[1:15:48] >> Aye.
[1:15:49] >> Lynn?
[1:15:49] >> Aye.
[1:15:50] >> Brian?
[1:15:50] >> Aye.
[1:15:51] >> Art?
[1:15:52] >> [clears throat]
[1:15:52] >> Aye.
[1:15:53] >> Got you, didn't I?
[1:15:55] Jeff?
[1:15:55] >> Aye.
[1:15:56] >> Okay. [snorts] Motion passed. Uh
[1:15:59] we need to look at um
[1:16:01] the state law that was passed that makes
[1:16:05] it so that
[1:16:07] we have affordable housing and we no
[1:16:09] longer can
[1:16:12] make people
[1:16:14] or uh
[1:16:17] even even contractors
[1:16:20] put in their um
[1:16:23] their
[1:16:25] Yeah, last landscaping so they allowed
[1:16:28] them to look good in the neighborhood.
[1:16:31] That was a decision.
[1:16:32] >> that's our understanding of the the
[1:16:35] intent of of that legislation, but
[1:16:37] essentially this this proposed ordinance
[1:16:39] is is to amend our code so that we're in
[1:16:41] line with with new state legislation. Uh
[1:16:44] right now we require uh the landscaping
[1:16:46] be completed uh before a certificate of
[1:16:49] occupancy is issued or they need to to
[1:16:52] provide an appropriate bond if it's
[1:16:54] during winter months or or whatever. Um
[1:16:56] but the state is not allowing us to do
[1:16:58] that anymore. Uh it's our understanding
[1:17:00] that that that's probably something to
[1:17:02] help towards
[1:17:03] uh making more affordable housing so
[1:17:05] that they they don't have that
[1:17:07] obligation of of additional costs
[1:17:10] related to landscaping. So, I know there
[1:17:12] was some discussion about this in the
[1:17:14] work meeting and and there could be some
[1:17:15] uh code enforcement uh efforts uh at the
[1:17:18] direction of the council, but for
[1:17:19] purposes of getting our our code in line
[1:17:21] with state code and uh
[1:17:24] and adjusting our code so that we're not requiring landscaping before
[1:17:28] certificate of occupancy, that's the
[1:17:30] language before you in ordinance
[1:17:33] uh
[1:17:34] um
[1:17:35] 06012026.
[1:17:40] » What will we do for the state?
[1:17:44] Any questions?
[1:17:47] Any comments?
[1:17:49] Then I'd entertain a motion on
[1:17:52] uh code amendment removing the
[1:17:54] residential landscaping requirement.
[1:17:59] >> I'll make a motion that we approve
[1:18:00] ordinance 06012026.
[1:18:05] » Is there a second?
[1:18:07] >> I'll second.
[1:18:08] >> Moved and seconded. Brian?
[1:18:10] >> I.
[1:18:10] >> Art?
[1:18:11] >> I.
[1:18:12] >> Jeff?
[1:18:12] >> I.
[1:18:13] >> Lynn?
[1:18:14] >> I.
[1:18:14] >> Travis?
[1:18:15] >> I.
[1:18:16] >> Thank you. Then uh we'll move into uh
[1:18:21] the
[1:18:22] zone change.
[1:18:24] >> Yeah, Mayor and Council, before you is an ordinance uh reflecting a proposal
[1:18:29] by uh
[1:18:31] some applicants who who are looking at a
[1:18:34] home on along SR 198 uh they're are that
[1:18:38] property to be rezoned from residential
[1:18:40] agriculture,
[1:18:42] uh
[1:18:42] R Ag, to residential commercial, RC. Uh
[1:18:46] we talked about this in the work session
[1:18:48] and and uh I don't see the applicants
[1:18:50] here. Uh they did receive a negative
[1:18:52] recommendation from the planning
[1:18:53] commission. Uh I think staff is probably
[1:18:55] in line with the the planning
[1:18:56] commission's recommendation. One thing I
[1:18:58] didn't mention in the work session is is
[1:19:00] uh
[1:19:01] their intent is to to do uh um
[1:19:05] uh
[1:19:05] kind of a daycare,
[1:19:07] um
[1:19:08] for for children. Uh they could start to
[1:19:11] do that in the current zoning that they
[1:19:12] have under home occupation. Uh with
[1:19:15] their proposal, if they went to
[1:19:17] residential commercial and and the
[1:19:19] daycare,
[1:19:20] you know, wasn't really working for
[1:19:21] them, uh that would potentially open
[1:19:24] them up to other things in the RC zone,
[1:19:26] which could be a concern. That would
[1:19:27] include storage units, multi-family,
[1:19:30] things like that that I don't know if
[1:19:31] the the planning commission was was
[1:19:33] excited about. I don't know if the
[1:19:34] council would be either.
[1:19:36] Um
[1:19:38] I think it was encouraged to them that
[1:19:39] if if they wanted to start as a home
[1:19:40] occupation, which I think is their
[1:19:42] intent, they could do that now, and as
[1:19:44] they they grow and and they want to
[1:19:46] become more of a commercial business, uh
[1:19:48] probably the the C1 interchange zone is
[1:19:50] what the planning commission suggested
[1:19:51] to them. I would agree with that. In the
[1:19:53] C1 zone, uh you're not able to do any
[1:19:56] sort of residential type of development,
[1:19:58] and storage units are also a use that's
[1:20:00] not allowed in that zone. So, uh that's
[1:20:02] the proposal. Uh the applicant's not
[1:20:04] here to to kind of represent their their
[1:20:06] proposal. Uh
[1:20:08] I would suggest uh if if you're you're
[1:20:11] in line with the planning commission to uh not approve this ordinance, or if
[1:20:16] you'd like to hear from the applicant,
[1:20:18] you could table that. Um but
[1:20:21] with them not being here, that that that
[1:20:23] would be my recommendation uh for you to move forward tonight.
[1:20:28] >> Does anyone have a question on this? I
[1:20:31] know we've discussed it a little bit.
[1:20:33] >> I sat in planning commission. I was very
[1:20:34] thankful for Commissioner Hoffman to
[1:20:37] say exactly what I was thinking the
[1:20:38] first time I saw the public notice go
[1:20:40] out for it.
[1:20:41] Made a lot of sense and
[1:20:43] everyone agreed with him. I am kind of
[1:20:44] curious if they were to open up their
[1:20:46] home-based business right now
[1:20:48] and then next month they change to C1,
[1:20:51] they could still run that home-based
[1:20:52] business, right?
[1:20:53] >> You know, that's a good question. That's
[1:20:55] >> Would it be legal non-conforming?
[1:20:57] >> Well, and that's a unique question.
[1:20:58] We've talked with Brett about that.
[1:21:00] Usually legal non-conforming happens
[1:21:02] when the city changes the zoning and
[1:21:04] they were already existing. The fact
[1:21:06] that they would be the ones changing
[1:21:07] their own zoning makes it a new dynamic
[1:21:10] that I'm not as familiar with. I don't
[1:21:11] know if Brett wants to expound on that,
[1:21:13] but
[1:21:14] yeah, that's that's kind of a a weird
[1:21:16] one that that someone would would do
[1:21:19] something and then
[1:21:21] change the zoning that that doesn't make
[1:21:23] what they want to do legal anymore. I
[1:21:25] don't know if the non-conforming would hold up or not.
[1:21:30] >> And that's why we had the discussion
[1:21:31] about that and we said, you know, you're
[1:21:33] better to stay
[1:21:34] uh safe with it and not get into that
[1:21:36] area.
[1:21:37] >> Right. So, again, I think if they they
[1:21:39] do the home occupation and then when
[1:21:41] they're ready to make the transition to
[1:21:43] more of a commercial, then they would go
[1:21:45] to the for the rezone, but I think we
[1:21:46] would suggest to them to not to start
[1:21:48] the home occupation and then do a rezone
[1:21:51] just so that they have that there when
[1:21:53] they eventually grow to the point where
[1:21:54] they want to make that transition to
[1:21:56] more of a commercial operation.
[1:21:57] >> Well, since they're not here, I'm I'll
[1:21:58] kind of summarize what they want what
[1:21:59] they're trying to accomplish here. They
[1:22:01] don't want to
[1:22:03] They want to expand to commercial
[1:22:05] eventually, but they don't want to get
[1:22:06] held up from the rezone because they're
[1:22:08] going to have to add in the improvements
[1:22:10] and infrastructure and things like that.
[1:22:12] So, they're trying to bypass that with
[1:22:13] the RC.
[1:22:15] Um I was thinking
[1:22:17] you know, starting it now, having a
[1:22:18] home-based be legal non-conforming, that
[1:22:20] would help them
[1:22:21] with that transition, but if that's
[1:22:23] a gray area, then it's probably not
[1:22:26] a good solution for them.
[1:22:27] Um
[1:22:29] Yeah, I still agree that RC is a bad
[1:22:31] zone for that lot.
[1:22:34] Hope we can help them out best we can,
[1:22:35] but
[1:22:37] Yeah, I don't think that'd be a good
[1:22:39] spot for that area.
[1:22:42] » [clears throat]
[1:22:43] >> Okay. Any other comments or question?
[1:22:47] Then I would entertain a motion
[1:22:50] on this Bright Steps Academy rezone.
[1:22:53] >> I'd make a motion that we not approve
[1:22:58] the amending of the zoning map of Santa
[1:23:00] Quin City ordinance 0602-2026.
[1:23:07] » So, a motion made to deny. Is there a
[1:23:10] second?
[1:23:11] >> I'll second.
[1:23:13] >> Moved and seconded. And Travis?
[1:23:14] >> Aye.
[1:23:15] >> Then?
[1:23:16] >> Aye.
[1:23:16] >> Jeff?
[1:23:17] >> Aye.
[1:23:17] >> Art?
[1:23:18] >> Aye.
[1:23:19] >> Brian?
[1:23:19] >> Aye.
[1:23:20] >> Motion was denied. And we'll move on to
[1:23:24] >> Motion was accepted to deny the request.
[1:23:27] >> Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
[1:23:29] >> Make sure that's clear for the minutes.
[1:23:32] >> Sorry.
[1:23:34] Freudian slip.
[1:23:38] Okay.
[1:23:39] Um
[1:23:40] F F and E.
[1:23:43] » Uh so, discussion possible action on the
[1:23:45] approval of the RAP tax funding, uh item
[1:23:48] number 14.
[1:23:51] So, we have uh
[1:23:53] Community Services Director
[1:23:55] Kami Ellsworth here with us, and I'll
[1:23:56] let her go ahead and present on this and
[1:23:58] kind of give you the backstory and
[1:23:59] what's happened and where we're at and
[1:24:01] what's being recommended.
[1:24:04] » Good evening again, mayor and council.
[1:24:07] >> [clears throat]
[1:24:07] >> Um
[1:24:08] After meeting with staff and public
[1:24:10] works and former director Bradley, um
[1:24:14] we created a RAP tax recommendation
[1:24:16] list, which you will see on the um far
[1:24:20] left.
[1:24:23] And
[1:24:25] the first three columns are the staff
[1:24:28] recommendations that we took before the
[1:24:30] RAP Tax Committee.
[1:24:32] That meeting was held on May 28th and
[1:24:35] after much discussion
[1:24:38] and they were very thorough. They went
[1:24:39] through each item one by one and as you
[1:24:42] can see in that second to the right
[1:24:44] column the yes and the no's, they went
[1:24:46] through and voted yes and no on each of
[1:24:49] the recommendations that we had
[1:24:51] presented to them.
[1:24:53] Um
[1:24:54] and again after a lot of discussion they decided this year to allocate a
[1:25:00] large chunk of the RAP Tax money or
[1:25:03] recommendation for a large chunk of the
[1:25:05] RAP Tax money to go towards the
[1:25:07] construction of the skate park. So
[1:25:09] $100,000
[1:25:11] was recommended to go towards that
[1:25:13] project.
[1:25:15] And then you can see the rest of their
[1:25:17] recommendations
[1:25:19] in the yes and the no column.
[1:25:21] Um we can go through those if you want
[1:25:23] or you can just look at that yourself,
[1:25:25] but the total cost that they are
[1:25:27] recommending for RAP Tax going towards
[1:25:30] those projects this year is $160,000.
[1:25:39] And they also have
[1:25:41] recommended
[1:25:42] that if there's additional RAP Tax money
[1:25:46] above the 160
[1:25:49] thousand that they be consulted on how
[1:25:52] that money is spent.
[1:25:56] » And the reason for that is because the
[1:25:57] anticipated amount that we
[1:26:00] estimate is probably around 175,000 so
[1:26:02] there could be a 15 plus or minus
[1:26:04] thousand that have not would would not
[1:26:06] be allocated with this approval if it
[1:26:09] happens to be approved that would then
[1:26:12] potentially go back to them. We
[1:26:13] obviously don't know what that
[1:26:14] collection is until the end of the year
[1:26:16] and so it may be able to if it's not
[1:26:18] used and it comes in, it would just roll
[1:26:20] into fund balance and we could use it
[1:26:21] next year. Fund fund balance for RAP
[1:26:23] tax.
[1:26:24] >> That's what I would think is easiest.
[1:26:31] » Any questions on those specific
[1:26:32] recommendations or anything
[1:26:35] more for me?
[1:26:36] >> Any comments?
[1:26:39] Then
[1:26:40] I would entertain a motion on the RAP
[1:26:42] tax.
[1:26:48] » I'll make a motion to
[1:26:50] uh
[1:26:51] approve
[1:26:52] the RAP tax recommendations from the RAP
[1:26:56] tax committee.
[1:26:59] » Got a motion, is there a second?
[1:27:01] >> I'll second.
[1:27:03] >> Okay, um
[1:27:05] Travis.
[1:27:05] >> No.
[1:27:07] >> Lynn?
[1:27:07] >> No.
[1:27:09] >> Jeff?
[1:27:10] >> Aye.
[1:27:11] >> Art?
[1:27:12] >> Aye.
[1:27:13] >> Brian?
[1:27:13] >> Aye.
[1:27:15] >> Motion passed.
[1:27:16] Okay.
[1:27:18] Um we will move on to the
[1:27:23] CDRA.
[1:27:24] >> No, we got the the FF&E.
[1:27:27] >> Yeah, so Mayor and Council, they
[1:27:29] again Jen Wagner, our library director
[1:27:32] and and Shannon and staff have been
[1:27:35] working on FF&E, furniture, fixtures,
[1:27:37] and equipment. Um this would be an
[1:27:39] approval of a purchase of the
[1:27:42] bookshelves themselves from Spacemaker
[1:27:44] in our Mountain View. They are a They
[1:27:46] are a state bid contractor and so
[1:27:48] they've already gone through the vetting
[1:27:49] and the bidding process and that kind of
[1:27:51] thing and this would help us to start
[1:27:53] the FF&E as indicated in the in the um
[1:27:57] in the work session, this is not all of
[1:28:00] the FF&E, this is just the bookshelves.
[1:28:02] We still have the RFID gates, we still
[1:28:04] have desks and chairs and furniture and
[1:28:07] other things to acquire for the FF&E for
[1:28:09] the library.
[1:28:11] Um happy to answer any questions on
[1:28:12] that, but this is before you for a not
[1:28:15] to exceed amount of 156,413.70
[1:28:19] for the bookshelves in the library.
[1:28:23] » [clears throat]
[1:28:26] » Any comments? Any questions?
[1:28:28] >> I appreciate the research and work that
[1:28:30] Jennifer's done to make sure that this
[1:28:32] was the best bang for the buck.
[1:28:35] >> I think it's fun that Cammy got baptized
[1:28:37] into book shelving.
[1:28:40] You know, you you were once sent to St.
[1:28:43] George to jump into wreck and everything
[1:28:47] else and and you did um
[1:28:50] marathons and now we're doing
[1:28:53] marishelves.
[1:28:55] >> [laughter]
[1:28:58] » I did notice we got a a $94,000
[1:29:01] discount, a toss it discount. Was that
[1:29:02] because we're
[1:29:04] have that certification we're talking
[1:29:06] we're discussing last year?
[1:29:07] >> is the state bid. That's that's
[1:29:08] essentially what they've done is they
[1:29:09] take their MSRP and then because of the
[1:29:12] state bid, they discount it whatever
[1:29:13] that percentage is.
[1:29:14] >> So, any library in Utah would get that
[1:29:15] same discount?
[1:29:16] >> I I would assume so. I don't know. I've
[1:29:18] not shopped for other libraries, but I
[1:29:19] assume that that would be the case.
[1:29:21] Okay. We have enough to do here, so I
[1:29:22] don't
[1:29:22] >> that's that's a 54% discount. That's
[1:29:24] pretty good.
[1:29:25] >> Yeah.
[1:29:27] >> Okay.
[1:29:29] That's that's always good. You know
[1:29:31] what? We've worked hard for this library
[1:29:34] for
[1:29:35] come up with money to pay for it and I
[1:29:38] am tickled that we can do this. So.
[1:29:41] Um
[1:29:43] I would entertain a motion
[1:29:45] on the FF&E.
[1:29:47] >> Mr. Mayor, I'll make the motion to
[1:29:48] authorize the purchase for library FF&E
[1:29:51] bookshelves to Spacesaver Intermountain
[1:29:54] in an amount not to exceed 156,413.70.
[1:30:00] » I have a motion. Is there a second?
[1:30:02] >> I'll second.
[1:30:03] >> Moved and seconded. Brian?
[1:30:05] >> Aye.
[1:30:06] >> Art?
[1:30:06] >> Aye.
[1:30:07] >> Jeff?
[1:30:08] >> Aye.
[1:30:09] >> Lynn?
[1:30:09] >> Aye.
[1:30:09] >> Travis?
[1:30:10] >> Aye.
[1:30:11] >> Motion passed.
[1:30:14] Now now we're at the CDRA.
[1:30:17] >> Mhm.
[1:30:18] >> So, uh in order to comply with all of
[1:30:21] the uh
[1:30:23] budget requirements under the state, uh
[1:30:25] we need to move into a
[1:30:28] the community development renewal agency
[1:30:31] look at the budget,
[1:30:33] um which is under resolution 0602.
[1:30:38] >> So, you need a motion to go into that
[1:30:39] meeting?
[1:30:39] >> Yeah.
[1:30:40] >> So moved.
[1:30:41] >> Have moved. Is there a second?
[1:30:44] >> I'll second.
[1:30:45] >> Moved and seconded. Brian?
[1:30:47] >> Aye.
[1:30:47] >> Art?
[1:30:48] >> Aye.
[1:30:48] >> Jeff?
[1:30:49] >> Aye.
[1:30:49] >> Lynn?
[1:30:49] >> Aye.
[1:30:50] >> Travis?
[1:30:51] >> Aye.
[1:30:51] >> Now we're the board, no longer the
[1:30:53] council.
[1:30:56] So,
[1:30:57] you want to go through this uh because
[1:31:00] this is exactly how we proposed it a
[1:31:03] month ago.
[1:31:04] >> Yeah, so board members and chair,
[1:31:08] I got that right this time.
[1:31:11] Uh [laughter and clears throat] this is
[1:31:11] the budget for the CDRA, the community
[1:31:13] development renewal agency for Santaquin
[1:31:15] City.
[1:31:16] Um this budget has not changed from the
[1:31:18] tentative and we'll present that for you
[1:31:20] for your approval.
[1:31:24] » With that, do you have any questions or
[1:31:26] anything that we may have omitted or not
[1:31:29] talked about?
[1:31:31] Then I would entertain a motion on the
[1:31:33] CDRA.
[1:31:37] » So moved.
[1:31:39] >> Is there a second?
[1:31:40] >> Why do we have so much feedback?
[1:31:41] >> I'll second.
[1:31:42] >> Moved and seconded. Travis?
[1:31:44] >> Aye.
[1:31:44] >> Lynn?
[1:31:45] >> Aye.
[1:31:45] >> Jeff?
[1:31:46] >> Aye.
[1:31:47] >> Art?
[1:31:48] >> Aye.
[1:31:48] >> Brian?
[1:31:49] >> Aye.
[1:31:51] >> Motion passed.
[1:31:53] Uh I need a motion to adjourn from the
[1:31:55] CDRA.
[1:31:56] >> So moved.
[1:31:57] >> Is there a second?
[1:31:59] >> I'll second.
[1:32:01] >> Moved and seconded it, Travis.
[1:32:03] >> Aye.
[1:32:03] >> Lynn?
[1:32:04] >> Aye.
[1:32:05] >> Jeff?
[1:32:06] >> Aye.
[1:32:06] >> Art?
[1:32:06] >> Aye.
[1:32:07] >> Brian?
[1:32:07] >> Aye.
[1:32:08] >> Now, we're back into the council. I need
[1:32:10] a motion to adjourn to the local
[1:32:12] building authority.
[1:32:13] >> So moved.
[1:32:15] >> Is there a second?
[1:32:17] >> I'll second.
[1:32:18] >> Moved and seconded Travis.
[1:32:20] >> Aye.
[1:32:21] >> Lynn?
[1:32:22] >> Aye.
[1:32:23] >> Jeff?
[1:32:24] >> Aye.
[1:32:25] >> Art?
[1:32:25] >> Aye.
[1:32:26] >> Brian?
[1:32:26] >> Aye.
[1:32:27] >> We are now in the Santaquin local
[1:32:30] building authority under the same Orton
[1:32:33] chair
[1:32:35] situation. Um
[1:32:37] these are the same numbers that we went
[1:32:39] over a
[1:32:40] uh month ago.
[1:32:43] » Yeah, so board members, this is the
[1:32:46] budget for the LBA, the local building
[1:32:48] authority.
[1:32:49] This is the mechanism by which we have
[1:32:50] financed one of our buildings, the
[1:32:52] public works uh building down on the
[1:32:54] north end of town.
[1:32:55] And I present this budget for you for
[1:32:57] approval. Again, it's not changed from
[1:32:58] the from the uh tentative budget. This is the
[1:33:02] essentially where we bring money in from
[1:33:04] the city and pay for the uh bond on the building at the
[1:33:08] public works building.
[1:33:11] » Any questions?
[1:33:13] We've had a chance to review it, so I
[1:33:15] would ask for a uh motion on resolution
[1:33:19] 0601.
[1:33:22] » So moved.
[1:33:24] >> I have a motion. Is there a second?
[1:33:28] » I'll second that.
[1:33:29] >> Moved and seconded Travis.
[1:33:31] >> Aye.
[1:33:32] >> Lynn?
[1:33:32] >> Aye.
[1:33:33] >> Jeff?
[1:33:33] >> Aye.
[1:33:34] >> Art?
[1:33:34] >> Aye.
[1:33:35] >> Brian?
[1:33:35] >> Aye.
[1:33:37] >> Motion passed. I need a motion to get
[1:33:39] out of the Santaquin local building
[1:33:41] authority.
[1:33:42] >> So moved.
[1:33:43] >> It's been moved. Is there a second?
[1:33:48] » I'll second.
[1:33:49] >> Moved and seconded Brian.
[1:33:51] >> Aye.
[1:33:52] >> Art?
[1:33:53] >> Aye.
[1:33:54] >> Jeff?
[1:33:55] >> Aye.
[1:33:55] >> Lynn?
[1:33:56] >> Aye.
[1:33:56] >> Travis?
[1:33:57] >> Hi.
[1:33:58] >> Back into a
[1:34:00] regular council meeting. We need to go
[1:34:02] into the special service district. I
[1:34:05] would entertain a motion to
[1:34:10] go into that
[1:34:13] special service district.
[1:34:15] >> So moved.
[1:34:17] >> Is there a second?
[1:34:18] >> [clears throat]
[1:34:19] >> I'll second.
[1:34:20] >> Moved and seconded. Brian.
[1:34:22] >> Hi.
[1:34:23] >> Art.
[1:34:23] >> Hi.
[1:34:24] >> Jeff.
[1:34:25] >> Hi.
[1:34:25] >> Lynn.
[1:34:25] >> Hi.
[1:34:26] >> Travis.
[1:34:26] >> Hi.
[1:34:27] >> We're now in the special service
[1:34:29] district for the water. So, um
[1:34:34] North, do you want to go through that?
[1:34:35] >> Yeah, board members and chair, this is
[1:34:37] the the water district, the special
[1:34:39] service district that deals with our
[1:34:41] water rights, our water assessments,
[1:34:43] some of our water assessments through
[1:34:45] the irrigation company and others.
[1:34:47] So, again, this is just a a mechanism, a
[1:34:49] sub entity of the city that allows us to
[1:34:51] be able to to deal with and and handle
[1:34:53] our water rights and assessments, et
[1:34:55] cetera. I'm happy to answer any
[1:34:56] questions. Again, this is not changed
[1:34:58] from the tentative budget.
[1:35:01] >> Any questions?
[1:35:03] Then I would entertain a motion from the
[1:35:05] board
[1:35:07] on that.
[1:35:10] » Mr. Mayor, I'll make a motion to approve
[1:35:12] resolution 0601-2026
[1:35:16] for the Santaquin Special Service
[1:35:17] District Water.
[1:35:19] >> I've had a motion. Is there a second?
[1:35:24] » I'll second.
[1:35:25] >> Moved and seconded. Brian.
[1:35:28] >> Hi.
[1:35:28] >> Art.
[1:35:29] >> Hi.
[1:35:29] >> Jeff.
[1:35:30] >> Hi.
[1:35:30] >> Lynn.
[1:35:31] >> Hi.
[1:35:31] >> Travis.
[1:35:32] >> Hi.
[1:35:33] >> Motion passed. I need a motion to
[1:35:38] go from the
[1:35:40] special service district back to council
[1:35:44] meeting.
[1:35:45] >> So moved.
[1:35:45] >> Seconded.
[1:35:46] >> Moved and seconded. Travis.
[1:35:48] >> Hi.
[1:35:49] >> Lynn.
[1:35:50] >> Hi.
[1:35:50] >> Jeff.
[1:35:51] >> Hi.
[1:35:51] >> Art.
[1:35:52] >> Hi.
[1:35:53] >> Brian.
[1:35:54] >> Hi.
[1:35:54] >> We are back in the
[1:35:57] fray of things. Okay.
[1:36:02] I would like to
[1:36:04] go into our reports for the officers
[1:36:08] and staff. So, Jason.
[1:36:10] >> Yeah, American Council. Uh
[1:36:12] a couple of things coming up on upcoming
[1:36:15] DRC meeting. That'll be next Tuesday. Uh
[1:36:18] we have likely the the site plan for a
[1:36:21] new Taco Bell. Uh this would be on the
[1:36:24] east side, sorry, west side of the
[1:36:26] Macy's parking lot. Uh it's gone through
[1:36:28] the DRC a couple times. There's some uh
[1:36:33] red lines and things with parking stuff
[1:36:35] that they need to address. So, uh we're
[1:36:37] anticipating that'll likely probably uh
[1:36:39] hopefully get get approved and and uh
[1:36:42] and can see that moving forward.
[1:36:45] Another site plan to make you aware of
[1:36:47] um
[1:36:48] is
[1:36:49] uh it's a proposal to convert the Cards
[1:36:53] gas station at the south exit to a
[1:36:55] Maverick.
[1:36:56] Uh as part of that
[1:36:58] uh conversion, they would add some some
[1:37:01] fuel pumps to the east side of the
[1:37:03] property for larger vehicles.
[1:37:05] So,
[1:37:07] yeah, there's that conversion will be a
[1:37:09] Maverick. I would anticipate that'll
[1:37:11] probably change the San Francisco
[1:37:13] Sourdough as well.
[1:37:14] Uh
[1:37:15] it's something we might talk with the
[1:37:16] mayor about to see what we can do to to
[1:37:18] keep that business. I know that's been a
[1:37:20] good business in in town. I guess Cards
[1:37:22] has has been as well, but uh
[1:37:24] anyways, uh something to make you aware
[1:37:26] of and and something that's going
[1:37:28] through a process to to uh
[1:37:30] modify that site.
[1:37:32] Uh for planning commission, we don't
[1:37:33] have any pending applications. There are
[1:37:35] is some some work being done internally
[1:37:37] for some more uh ordinance amendments
[1:37:39] just to clean some some things up and address some things. Uh we don't
[1:37:43] have the the time to to set a public
[1:37:45] hearing for those amendments. so uh
[1:37:48] those will likely come next meeting, so
[1:37:50] uh it looks like likely the planning
[1:37:51] commission meeting next Tuesday will be
[1:37:53] canceled due to lack of agenda items.
[1:37:56] Uh last thing I just want to make you
[1:37:57] aware of uh
[1:37:59] monthly we have employee luncheons,
[1:38:01] which we love for council members to
[1:38:02] come and and uh and and mingle with with
[1:38:05] our employees. Uh
[1:38:07] we usually do it on third Wednesdays of
[1:38:09] each month. This this month we are not
[1:38:11] doing it tomorrow. We're going to do it
[1:38:14] next week on Wednesday. Uh part of the
[1:38:16] reason we're doing that is we're we're
[1:38:18] uh working on doing a training for all
[1:38:21] of our staff, a mandatory training for
[1:38:23] uh for sexual harassment to make sure
[1:38:25] that that they're trained and and we
[1:38:27] can, you know, avoid any conflicts or or
[1:38:30] uh situations as HR issues arise, but uh we've got our uh employee assistance
[1:38:37] program, Blomquist Health is going to
[1:38:38] come and do that training. It's not
[1:38:40] required for staff for for council, but
[1:38:42] you're welcome to come for that
[1:38:43] training. It'll be at 11:30 and then
[1:38:45] we'll have uh an employee luncheon at
[1:38:47] 12:00, which
[1:38:48] you can come to any or all of it. Um
[1:38:51] so I think that's all I have to report
[1:38:53] unless you have any questions for me.
[1:38:57] » Okay, Norm.
[1:38:57] >> Yeah, Mayor and Council, just a couple
[1:38:59] of updates. So, a reminder on June 30th
[1:39:02] we will have a city council special city
[1:39:04] council meeting to close out the budget
[1:39:06] for this fiscal year that we're in.
[1:39:08] We've not gotten a We've not been able
[1:39:09] to get to the as we've been working on
[1:39:11] the final budget since
[1:39:14] several weeks ago. We've not been able
[1:39:16] to to get that put together, but you'll
[1:39:17] notice a public hearing notice will go
[1:39:19] out on Friday for that, but it's 2 weeks
[1:39:22] from tonight we will have a a special uh
[1:39:24] city council meeting just for you just
[1:39:26] have the one
[1:39:27] uh public hearing in the in the budget
[1:39:30] for the city and I think for the CDRA.
[1:39:33] We'll bring that back to you and you'll
[1:39:34] be able to look at that.
[1:39:35] >> That's at 5:00.
[1:39:37] >> Pardon me?
[1:39:38] >> That's at 5:00.
[1:39:39] >> that's correct. 5:00 5:00 p.m., that's
[1:39:40] correct.
[1:39:41] And and I don't imagine that's going to
[1:39:43] be a long meeting, maybe a half an hour,
[1:39:45] something of that nature. There's not
[1:39:46] going to be any other budget or any
[1:39:48] other agenda items but those two that
[1:39:50] I'm aware of at this point.
[1:39:52] Uh CUP update, they've I know that they
[1:39:54] had a a on-site meeting today. They're
[1:39:57] going to start getting that connection
[1:39:59] done and getting it put in.
[1:40:01] Um working on that out there in the
[1:40:03] field. The library update is looking
[1:40:04] very good. If you haven't been in the
[1:40:06] library, the carpet flooring,
[1:40:08] electrical, etc. They're doing some some
[1:40:10] minor touch-ups on cabinetry and and
[1:40:13] countertops. And uh and the elevator is
[1:40:17] supposed to be inspected in here in the
[1:40:19] next week or so. So, we're we're kind of
[1:40:21] getting to that end of July 1st or end
[1:40:23] of June 1st of July time frame that we
[1:40:25] thought about and now we're ordering
[1:40:26] FF&E and so, things are rolling over
[1:40:29] there and looking really good. On the
[1:40:30] rec building, you may If you haven't
[1:40:32] driven by there, they paved the the
[1:40:34] south parking lot for the new recreation
[1:40:36] building.
[1:40:37] I think they paved it towards the end of
[1:40:38] last week sometime, but it's paved now
[1:40:40] and striped and moving forward and
[1:40:42] looking good over there.
[1:40:44] Um the new website, I know that Molly
[1:40:46] sent to the to the all the council
[1:40:49] members that the new website is
[1:40:50] forthcoming. It's 2 days away. On
[1:40:52] Thursday, we're looking to go live with
[1:40:54] the new website. Last week, she sent you
[1:40:56] out a link to the new website that you
[1:40:58] can go kind of test drive and
[1:41:00] break it if you can and help us to
[1:41:02] understand if you have any questions or
[1:41:03] concerns, but recognizing that that's
[1:41:06] going to go live on on Thursday.
[1:41:10] Um I don't have anything else, but I'm
[1:41:11] happy to answer any questions that you
[1:41:13] may have.
[1:41:15] >> Okay.
[1:41:16] Chad?
[1:41:17] >> I have nothing to report tonight.
[1:41:20] >> Lynn?
[1:41:20] >> Nothing from me.
[1:41:22] >> Jeff?
[1:41:23] >> I don't have anything.
[1:41:24] >> Art?
[1:41:28] » Travis, would the youth council be
[1:41:31] willing to entertain the idea of placing
[1:41:34] about a a
[1:41:36] individual flags at
[1:41:38] specific grave sites in the cemetery
[1:41:41] for Memorial Day and Veterans Day. We've
[1:41:43] identified 14 veterans that were
[1:41:46] actually killed
[1:41:48] in a conflict.
[1:41:51] And we're hoping to identify those with
[1:41:53] a with a flag if and maybe the youth
[1:41:55] council would be
[1:41:57] willing to
[1:41:59] put those up for us.
[1:42:00] >> I'll visit with you afterwards.
[1:42:03] >> I I didn't hear you.
[1:42:04] >> I'll visit with you afterwards.
[1:42:06] >> Okay.
[1:42:09] Anything else?
[1:42:10] >> Um yeah, I have quite a bit.
[1:42:12] >> Okay.
[1:42:13] >> Um
[1:42:16] I know Jake's here. I don't know if he's
[1:42:18] here about
[1:42:19] a portable stage or not, but
[1:42:22] his wife has asked me, "Do we have a
[1:42:24] portable stage that we could use
[1:42:26] in um
[1:42:28] in our multi-purpose room or would the
[1:42:30] city be interested in purchasing
[1:42:32] a portable stage
[1:42:35] for certain events and activities and
[1:42:37] performances and stuff?
[1:42:39] Seniors could use it in
[1:42:42] other
[1:42:43] events that occur in in the
[1:42:45] multi-purpose room."
[1:42:46] >> Tammy probably has an answer to that.
[1:42:48] >> Have we
[1:42:58] » Do you have a any uh timing on that?
[1:43:00] Like, would it be here before November?
[1:43:07] » Time frame.
[1:43:10] >> Okay.
[1:43:12] Uh the American Legion is sponsoring a
[1:43:14] dinner for any veteran and a
[1:43:17] [clears throat] and a and a and a a
[1:43:18] guest of that veteran that lives in
[1:43:20] Santaquin for a dinner.
[1:43:22] And um
[1:43:24] Jake Kester's wife has secured a
[1:43:26] magician for entertainment and it would
[1:43:28] be very nice to have a a portable stage
[1:43:31] for the magician to be on.
[1:43:33] >> I will make sure to let
[1:43:35] Okay.
[1:43:36] The date for the dinner is Friday,
[1:43:38] November the 13th at
[1:43:40] 7:05.
[1:43:43] I don't know.
[1:43:44] Hold on.
[1:43:47] November 3rd. The dinner's at 5:30.
[1:43:52] Um
[1:43:53] fireworks, are we going to make any
[1:43:55] changes or do we want to have a
[1:43:57] discussion
[1:43:59] soon since [snorts] 4th of July is
[1:44:00] imminent about fireworks in the
[1:44:04] community?
[1:44:05] Uh
[1:44:07] >> So, our fireworks policy has not
[1:44:09] changed. The
[1:44:10] >> Guy, I know I'm I'm suggesting maybe we
[1:44:12] change it because of the dryness
[1:44:15] and not allow fireworks in the core part
[1:44:17] of town.
[1:44:18] >> I'm happy to visit with the fire chief
[1:44:20] about that and bring that back to you.
[1:44:22] >> Okay.
[1:44:23] How about the city fireworks for the
[1:44:26] celebration?
[1:44:28] >> So far as I know, they're moving
[1:44:29] forward.
[1:44:31] >> Okay.
[1:44:32] Um Shannon, what's the status of our
[1:44:35] rainy day fund? Are we still trying to
[1:44:38] make it healthier?
[1:44:45] » The only thing I can answer at this
[1:44:47] point
[1:44:47] >> You got to turn that mic on, Shannon.
[1:44:50] >> The only thing I can answer at this
[1:44:51] point is that um we there will be
[1:44:54] 330,000 that goes back to the
[1:44:57] um
[1:44:58] fund balance to pay ourselves back for
[1:45:01] the purchase of the cemetery property.
[1:45:03] We've been so focused on the final
[1:45:04] budget, I haven't even looked I mean,
[1:45:06] we've looked at it, but we just don't
[1:45:09] know what expenses are going to be
[1:45:10] coming in and revenues coming in in the
[1:45:11] last couple weeks, so.
[1:45:13] >> Right, but
[1:45:15] >> For sure, 330,000. That's what I can
[1:45:18] answer right now.
[1:45:19] >> It's on [laughter] our radar. Okay.
[1:45:20] >> Yes.
[1:45:21] >> Then I've had a couple citizens reach
[1:45:23] out to me regarding these flock cameras
[1:45:25] that uh
[1:45:27] that the city has has adopted them. I'm
[1:45:30] going to give a copy of these to
[1:45:32] Stephanie so she can include it in the
[1:45:34] minutes.
[1:45:36] One of them is from uh his first name is
[1:45:38] Adam. He says, "Hello. Although there's
[1:45:41] truth that Flock cameras can identify
[1:45:43] criminals and their activity, this does come off as lazy police work
[1:45:48] with the side effect of living in
[1:45:50] constant surveillance. I don't believe
[1:45:52] the trade-off for the constant
[1:45:53] surveillance justifies the ability to
[1:45:55] find information through these systems
[1:45:58] with the added
[1:46:00] detriment to our own privacy. I hope
[1:46:03] you'll take
[1:46:04] in the concerns of us in the city
[1:46:07] that the rise in restricted freedoms
[1:46:09] doesn't give us any hope
[1:46:11] that the world would be better for our
[1:46:12] children. Please consider taking them
[1:46:14] down so we can live in a little less
[1:46:17] involvement from our government."
[1:46:21] The other one's a little little lengthy.
[1:46:23] Um
[1:46:24] from a gentleman by the name of Cameron.
[1:46:28] He first reached out and he said, "Dear
[1:46:29] Councilman Adcock, I'm writing to you as
[1:46:31] a resident of Santaquin to express my
[1:46:33] strong opposition to the presence and
[1:46:35] funding of Flock safety cameras in our
[1:46:37] city. I do not support our city dollars
[1:46:39] being used to fund the surveillance
[1:46:41] technology.
[1:46:42] Furthermore, I have safe serious
[1:46:44] concerns regarding data privacy and do
[1:46:47] not trust that these systems will be
[1:46:48] used strictly for their stated purpose.
[1:46:51] As a constituent, I ask the city council
[1:46:53] reconsider any current or future
[1:46:55] financial commitment
[1:46:58] uh
[1:47:00] Flock safety cameras and prioritize the
[1:47:03] privacy and trust of our family. Thank
[1:47:05] you for your time and your service
[1:47:08] to the city. And I recognize our last
[1:47:10] meeting we funded that for the next 5
[1:47:12] years.
[1:47:13] My reply to that was, "I appreciate your
[1:47:15] concern. I'm glad to hear from a
[1:47:16] constituent.
[1:47:17] The city feels that the police chief's
[1:47:19] recommendation that they greatly
[1:47:21] increase the police's ability to
[1:47:23] identify and track those prone
[1:47:25] to committing crime, thus increasing the
[1:47:27] community's safety. Thank you for
[1:47:28] reaching out to me and sharing your
[1:47:30] concern.
[1:47:32] His response was keyword prone to
[1:47:34] committing a crime, not caught in the
[1:47:36] act of a crime, not actively committing
[1:47:38] crimes, but tracking and surveying
[1:47:41] and identifying people prone to commit a
[1:47:43] crime. It doesn't just track or survey
[1:47:46] those actively committing crimes, it is
[1:47:48] doing it to everyone.
[1:47:50] Police work has been done for years on
[1:47:51] relying on surveillance
[1:47:53] to police the community. I don't think
[1:47:55] is a good look, nor do many community
[1:47:57] members like the idea of Flock being in
[1:47:59] our community.
[1:48:00] Relying on constant surveillance, in my
[1:48:02] opinion, is lazy police work.
[1:48:05] Quote from Benjamin Franklin in his
[1:48:08] words to me, "Those who would give up
[1:48:10] essential liberty to purchase a little
[1:48:12] bit of safety deserve neither liberty
[1:48:15] nor safety." Again, Ben Franklin's
[1:48:17] quote.
[1:48:18] Continuing on his comments to me,
[1:48:20] "What studies were done and how the
[1:48:22] decision
[1:48:23] What studies were done or how was the
[1:48:25] decision made for where the cameras are
[1:48:27] placed?
[1:48:29] Communities across the country are now
[1:48:30] revoking their contracts with Flock over
[1:48:33] safety concerns and data breaches.
[1:48:35] When a government agency such as our
[1:48:37] police force begins constantly surveying
[1:48:39] its residents
[1:48:40] through the use of Flock cameras and
[1:48:42] similar things, that's where I believe
[1:48:44] it crosses the line.
[1:48:48] I'm not going to read this because it's
[1:48:53] page and a half,
[1:48:55] but it's addressing um from um
[1:49:00] It says citizen name Michelle.
[1:49:03] It's addressing addressing her concern.
[1:49:06] She lives down in Summer Ridge.
[1:49:08] Um her concern about the data center,
[1:49:11] and she raises she recognizes she's
[1:49:14] late on the on the on the wagon for
[1:49:16] discussion about this, but she raises
[1:49:19] um the concerns that we have all heard
[1:49:23] from other citizens in our community
[1:49:24] about the impact that that data center
[1:49:27] would have, and she's opposed to it.
[1:49:31] >> Thank you.
[1:49:34] Anything else?
[1:49:36] Brian?
[1:49:40] » I thought I had a lot. Um no, I'm glad
[1:49:42] you read those. Um I got some mean
[1:49:44] emails.
[1:49:45] Um
[1:49:48] I have one question.
[1:49:49] Uh
[1:49:51] how have the library donations gone? Has it they I know there were some
[1:49:56] commitments with the like with each
[1:49:58] permit or something there was
[1:49:59] commitments from certain donors. Is that
[1:50:02] still trending well?
[1:50:05] >> Uh the permits come in through and you
[1:50:07] see those. I don't I don't get a
[1:50:10] report every time we get one.
[1:50:13] But there's a couple of major
[1:50:14] >> I'm trying to What's the status like are
[1:50:15] we trending well that like what was
[1:50:17] committed we're getting and that there
[1:50:20] are enough commitments to meet the
[1:50:22] library needs?
[1:50:23] >> As far as those building building
[1:50:25] permits, um they are still coming in for
[1:50:27] that certain um
[1:50:28] contractor who um
[1:50:32] del- designated that amount per building
[1:50:34] permit. Um we just received two more.
[1:50:37] Um every time he picks up a building
[1:50:38] permit he comes in. I would say maybe
[1:50:40] two to three a month.
[1:50:43] And it's
[1:50:44] um the amount that they agreed on, so.
[1:50:47] >> Mhm.
[1:50:48] >> Yeah.
[1:50:48] >> Mhm. The The other one that's still
[1:50:50] outstanding is uh
[1:50:54] one that we won't see until
[1:50:56] November-ish.
[1:50:57] >> Right. Is that going to affect the
[1:50:59] library
[1:51:00] at all or are we looking at covering the cost and then just
[1:51:05] hopefully that that will come in to
[1:51:08] backfill kind of like a grant or
[1:51:09] something?
[1:51:10] >> Yes.
[1:51:10] >> Okay, okay.
[1:51:11] >> Yep.
[1:51:11] >> I I was just I was just worried that
[1:51:13] like that might hold it up.
[1:51:14] >> Yeah, in essence we have pledges and we
[1:51:16] have cash that we have received and so
[1:51:18] the pledges still continue to turn into
[1:51:20] cash. They're not they're not sick I
[1:51:22] mean they are significant but not on a
[1:51:24] daily basis other than the what what's
[1:51:26] been presented but but the the revenue
[1:51:29] continues to come in and the pledges
[1:51:30] continue to cover themselves and in and
[1:51:33] turn into to revenue so we will continue
[1:51:35] to collect that and and we have
[1:51:37] sufficient funds to move forward with
[1:51:38] the library FF&E.
[1:51:40] >> Good thing it's not daily. That would be
[1:51:41] a lot of processing and your
[1:51:42] entertainment.
[1:51:43] >> The amount The amount showing in capital
[1:51:45] projects coming from the Friends of
[1:51:46] Santaquin is the is the cash amount the
[1:51:49] value of the cash amount
[1:51:51] >> And we still have pledges up and above
[1:51:53] that.
[1:51:55] >> Okay, um,
[1:51:56] another thing is on June 30th I don't I
[1:51:59] just want to make sure I might not make
[1:52:01] it to the meeting in person. I don't
[1:52:03] know if we have to notice that. If we
[1:52:04] want to notice that for me to be remote,
[1:52:06] I can send a follow-up email after this.
[1:52:08] I'll try to make it but I'm going to be
[1:52:10] coming from somewhere so I don't want to
[1:52:12] hold that up.
[1:52:14] We had a Chamber of Commerce
[1:52:18] board meeting this morning.
[1:52:20] They're interested in using the
[1:52:22] multi-purpose room City Hall for the
[1:52:24] gala
[1:52:25] in February again.
[1:52:26] They liked the idea of switching off
[1:52:28] every other year like maybe in Payson
[1:52:30] and one in Santaquin.
[1:52:32] I can send a follow-up email. Do you
[1:52:34] want me to work with you, Norm? That
[1:52:36] would be
[1:52:37] earliest Thursday in February
[1:52:40] that the basically be from what like
[1:52:44] 1 or or 3:00 p.m. to the evening similar
[1:52:47] to last year.
[1:52:48] the 2 years ago.
[1:52:50] And that stage would come in handy
[1:52:52] because it is that was something that I
[1:52:55] said I was like it's kind of weird when
[1:52:56] we have events and you can't really see
[1:52:59] >> Third Thursday in February be the fourth
[1:53:00] or the 11th.
[1:53:01] >> Fourth or the 11th? Oh yeah, because of
[1:53:04] Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That's very
[1:53:06] helpful.
[1:53:08] Um no seniors, right?
[1:53:11] Or or what it That is that what you're
[1:53:13] saying?
[1:53:13] >> No, you I just set you on a day.
[1:53:16] >> Okay, okay.
[1:53:16] >> February 4th.
[1:53:17] >> But isn't seniors, when does that end?
[1:53:18] >> It's Tuesdays and Thursdays.
[1:53:20] >> What Do you know what time?
[1:53:21] >> They only take this Oh, they they're
[1:53:22] usually done by about 4:00, so that
[1:53:24] might not be enough time on a Thursday.
[1:53:26] >> Cuz I I don't want to I don't want to
[1:53:27] create enemies. Um
[1:53:30] Well, I know that there's routines
[1:53:31] there. Um
[1:53:34] Okay.
[1:53:35] >> You do You do bring up seniors, so
[1:53:36] senior citizens lunches will discontinue
[1:53:40] for the months of July. That's correct.
[1:53:42] >> That's good to know.
[1:53:44] Um
[1:53:46] And then the last thing is is I gave to
[1:53:50] every council member a draft of a memo.
[1:53:54] I wanted to create the least amount of
[1:53:57] work for city staff.
[1:53:58] Um
[1:54:00] and a proposed resolution
[1:54:02] um and a Q&A that has some questions and
[1:54:06] answers about that.
[1:54:07] I was hoping to talk about it during the
[1:54:09] work session, but I realized there's a
[1:54:10] lot more important things um to do.
[1:54:13] Um
[1:54:15] I emailed it to Norm and Mayor. Norm
[1:54:17] gave a lot of great feedback, some
[1:54:18] concerns around turnaround time, um
[1:54:21] different things.
[1:54:23] Um essentially what this resolution is is it stems from
[1:54:28] one was inspired when I went over the
[1:54:31] expenses
[1:54:32] that I was noticing that we could save.
[1:54:34] Um
[1:54:36] And Mayor said
[1:54:38] well, not all of us can do that, like
[1:54:39] parse through all that stuff.
[1:54:41] And I was like, well, yeah, because it
[1:54:43] took me such a long time because what I
[1:54:45] did is I took city council meeting
[1:54:48] agenda packets
[1:54:50] and parsed all of our check register
[1:54:53] stuff into an Excel document and then
[1:54:56] ran it through an analysis because part
[1:54:59] running PDFs through an analysis through
[1:55:02] like analysis software
[1:55:05] and even AI is like more difficult and
[1:55:07] so running through like a table format
[1:55:09] allows it to process it a lot better.
[1:55:12] Um
[1:55:13] and I realized, you know,
[1:55:15] and and I want to be very clear
[1:55:18] uh about this.
[1:55:20] Norm has been extremely helpful in
[1:55:22] helping me get a lot of things that I
[1:55:24] asked. I'm very inquisitive and I ask a
[1:55:26] lot of things.
[1:55:28] A while back, I did ask about getting
[1:55:32] to Norm about getting
[1:55:35] the check register for a whole year.
[1:55:37] That was something that there was a
[1:55:39] little bit of pushback and and I I'm want to say Norm makes his
[1:55:43] best effort
[1:55:45] to help me with these things, but I
[1:55:46] think that there's unclear expectations
[1:55:48] and there's not accountability on my end
[1:55:51] on our end or on their end in in a
[1:55:54] formal process of, "Hey, how do we go
[1:55:56] about as city council members requesting
[1:55:59] documents?" I realized that
[1:56:01] it was literally just like one-off calls
[1:56:04] to Norm while he's doing a million other
[1:56:06] things and he's having to juggle that.
[1:56:10] And then, you know, it's like, "Well,
[1:56:13] should I talk with Brett about whether I
[1:56:14] can legally give that to you or not?"
[1:56:16] There were other instances where I asked
[1:56:18] for audio recordings of meetings and was
[1:56:21] directed to do a grammar request. And I
[1:56:24] think everyone's trying to do the best
[1:56:26] thing that they that they should do.
[1:56:28] Um but I think that there's unclear
[1:56:30] expectations and for us as city council
[1:56:32] members to be able to do our jobs
[1:56:35] the grammar request process, one, is
[1:56:37] meant for the public, not for us.
[1:56:40] And and two
[1:56:42] I think that there there that we need to
[1:56:45] have access to things such as check
[1:56:48] registers in an easy digestible format
[1:56:50] for us to make the best decisions.
[1:56:52] There's a lot of other things, you know,
[1:56:54] I met with
[1:56:56] um
[1:56:58] uh Chief Land about uh stats on EMS and
[1:57:02] he was able to quickly pull that up for
[1:57:04] me.
[1:57:04] Um and and so I and and I make a lot of
[1:57:07] one-off requests, you know, like I asked
[1:57:10] Chief Hurst about some stuff about
[1:57:11] quotes and different things and I think
[1:57:13] that there should be probably a formal
[1:57:16] process for that, which is
[1:57:19] what this does is it essentially
[1:57:22] says, "Hey, if we're a council member
[1:57:23] and we want information from staff, we
[1:57:26] have to put in writing certain things."
[1:57:28] And it's one, the name of the requesting
[1:57:31] council member, the date of our request,
[1:57:34] and then a specific description of the
[1:57:35] information or files requested.
[1:57:39] And then why?
[1:57:40] Um so there's a paper trail because I
[1:57:42] don't think it's appropriate for council
[1:57:45] members to create too much burden for
[1:57:48] our staff
[1:57:49] for no reason.
[1:57:51] Um
[1:57:52] and that gives staff a reason to say,
[1:57:54] "Hey, this is not
[1:57:56] you like you're asking all the wrong
[1:57:58] things. I think you should actually want
[1:57:59] this." Or or even call out what I don't
[1:58:02] think would happen for many of our
[1:58:03] council members is like a harassment via
[1:58:07] so many requests.
[1:58:09] And then what that does
[1:58:11] is then
[1:58:12] whoever it is, whether it's the city
[1:58:14] manager, the city recorder,
[1:58:17] or department head, they have two
[1:58:19] business days to be able to get back to
[1:58:20] you and say, "Hey, here this is or I
[1:58:24] can't get this to you within two
[1:58:25] business days. Maybe there's a million
[1:58:26] other things going on like there always
[1:58:28] is." And they can just come back and set
[1:58:30] any reasonable timeline. So in that
[1:58:32] resolution,
[1:58:34] it accounts for
[1:58:35] leave, out of office staff is
[1:58:38] limited staff bandwidth. So if I were to
[1:58:40] request a check register and say
[1:58:42] Shannon's gone for the next month,
[1:58:45] it could literally just be, "Hey,
[1:58:47] we'll get you that in two months. That's
[1:58:49] the most reasonable thing." And it's in
[1:58:51] writing so that everybody's accountable,
[1:58:53] and there's there's those clear
[1:58:55] expectations. Or, "Hey, you know, we're
[1:58:58] getting the budget made. Ryan, I can't
[1:59:00] really get you that report tomorrow
[1:59:01] because there's a bunch of other
[1:59:02] pressing issues.
[1:59:04] This is the timeline that I can get it
[1:59:06] for you. Is that okay?"
[1:59:08] And everything's in writing, and that
[1:59:09] way we're accountable, there's clear
[1:59:10] expectations.
[1:59:12] Um
[1:59:14] and and and then the the the last part
[1:59:17] about this resolution is
[1:59:20] um
[1:59:21] PDFs are great, but it's really hard to
[1:59:23] navigate PDFs. If anyone's done like any
[1:59:25] budgeting um or anything, being able to
[1:59:28] use Excel and quickly filter, run
[1:59:30] analysis, do formulas, that's way
[1:59:32] easier. And so, if there are documents
[1:59:35] that have originated I mean, no document
[1:59:37] originates as a PDF, to be quite frank.
[1:59:40] That's just like a final version of a
[1:59:41] document.
[1:59:43] If there are documents that have started
[1:59:46] out as an Excel document, like for
[1:59:47] example, if I were to say I wanted the
[1:59:49] schedule for this new building,
[1:59:52] rather than export it as a PDF and send
[1:59:54] it to me, what if I could just get that
[1:59:56] as an Excel document, and I could
[1:59:58] analyze that and quickly be able to make
[2:00:00] the right decisions that I need to
[2:00:02] as an elected official.
[2:00:05] So, it sets that expectation that if
[2:00:07] there are those files, that those are
[2:00:10] the ones that should be provided.
[2:00:12] Um and I think that's like obviously a
[2:00:14] given. Um
[2:00:16] I asked Norm the other day for the copy
[2:00:19] of the tentative and the final. Um and
[2:00:21] he got them to me in Excel documents,
[2:00:23] and that was super great because I was
[2:00:24] able to
[2:00:25] what Shannon just did for us is I was
[2:00:28] able to just quick run a diff, a diff
[2:00:31] finding what's different, and quickly
[2:00:32] see. And so,
[2:00:34] I mean, Shannon beat me. I didn't even
[2:00:35] ask any questions because she went
[2:00:37] through that already.
[2:00:39] And so, all the questions that I had
[2:00:41] listed down of what's the difference
[2:00:42] between this, she answered. And so, that
[2:00:45] was super helpful what Norm did for me
[2:00:46] because that allowed me to come prepared
[2:00:49] to city council with questions rather
[2:00:51] than
[2:00:52] analyze this document or just work off a
[2:00:54] PDF
[2:00:56] and then within 5 minutes have to
[2:00:57] approve that. I don't think our
[2:00:59] residents expect that of us
[2:01:01] or is that reasonable?
[2:01:03] Um and then
[2:01:05] um there's a one other thing which is
[2:01:07] just like the protection of confidential
[2:01:08] data. That's just setting like a clear
[2:01:11] expectation that like yeah, if there are
[2:01:14] documents that shouldn't be disclosed to
[2:01:17] city council that there are exceptions.
[2:01:19] Like no, I'm not going to give you that
[2:01:21] document or oh hey, you can come to my
[2:01:23] office and look at that on the computer,
[2:01:25] but we don't want to create a bunch of
[2:01:26] random files out there
[2:01:28] for it to be you know, shared in an
[2:01:30] inappropriate way because there are
[2:01:31] documents that are protected or private
[2:01:34] under the law and that's okay. Um
[2:01:37] but it sets a clear of hey, if that is
[2:01:39] the case then city staff would tell you
[2:01:42] hey, that's the case and that's in
[2:01:43] writing. And I think that it creates
[2:01:45] accountability both for elected
[2:01:47] officials, but also for city staff to be
[2:01:49] able to keep us accountable, but also
[2:01:51] create a process so that Norm or city
[2:01:53] recorder or any department head isn't
[2:01:56] overly burdened by any questions that we
[2:01:59] have.
[2:02:00] Um
[2:02:03] but um
[2:02:04] if there's any questions, feel free to
[2:02:06] ask me. I've tried to put together a Q&A
[2:02:09] document
[2:02:11] that talks about maybe some concerns
[2:02:13] that you might have.
[2:02:15] Um
[2:02:17] such as
[2:02:18] like how does this benefit me? This is
[2:02:20] geared towards residents, but like how
[2:02:21] does this benefit me? What does this do?
[2:02:24] Um will this place a heavy burden on
[2:02:27] city staff or cost money?
[2:02:29] Um and in that specific case is the
[2:02:30] processing of a formal GRAMA request
[2:02:32] takes a significant amount of
[2:02:33] administrative time.
[2:02:35] And so this actually in my opinion
[2:02:37] eliminates paperwork that's not needed.
[2:02:39] Um Um, I'm not saying like I think that it's appropriate for
[2:02:43] the public to use grammar and it's
[2:02:45] appropriate in those ways, but I I think
[2:02:48] that as elected officials setting those
[2:02:49] clear expectations because it's
[2:02:51] difficult for any department head or
[2:02:52] norm to know how to handle that without
[2:02:55] clear expectations of how do I handle
[2:02:58] this request and and what's allowed. Um,
[2:03:01] and I think this sets up not just
[2:03:03] beneficial for the current council, but
[2:03:06] I'm not going to be here forever and
[2:03:07] neither of us hopefully. I mean,
[2:03:09] hopefully we get a break from this that
[2:03:10] it sets that expectation and while I would love for Norm to be
[2:03:16] here forever and most of almost all of
[2:03:19] our department heads all of our
[2:03:20] department heads to be here for a long
[2:03:21] time,
[2:03:22] they're going to change too and so I
[2:03:24] think that this resolution establishes
[2:03:26] that.
[2:03:27] Um,
[2:03:28] state law allows for
[2:03:31] uh
[2:03:32] cities to establish their own internal
[2:03:35] records access policies and so that's
[2:03:37] what this is doing. Is it's just setting
[2:03:39] things clear expectations.
[2:03:41] Um, but if there are any concerns or
[2:03:43] questions,
[2:03:44] please reach out to me. Um, is this
[2:03:47] possible to get this on the next
[2:03:49] uh mayor the next regular session?
[2:03:52] >> want to look at it and we'll probably
[2:03:53] put it on a work session.
[2:03:56] >> It would it be able to be I mean, given
[2:03:58] that we have so much time,
[2:04:00] could we not put it on for the regular
[2:04:02] session? I mean, the council can choose
[2:04:04] to accept or not accept it, but at least
[2:04:06] it's there.
[2:04:07] >> just took 15 minutes, which you said was
[2:04:09] only going to be a minute. So,
[2:04:12] I I'm worried about time.
[2:04:14] >> Yeah, well well, I mean, now everybody
[2:04:16] has all of these documents.
[2:04:18] I've provided them to Norm. I provided
[2:04:20] them to you for multiple days.
[2:04:23] I think that this should be enough time
[2:04:25] that in the meantime if council members
[2:04:27] want to ask me questions
[2:04:29] that
[2:04:31] and and we'll have a work session where
[2:04:32] we talk about agenda items that we could
[2:04:35] still just vote on it
[2:04:37] in the next regular session. And if And if the council says, "Hey, actually
[2:04:42] that wasn't enough time." then we can
[2:04:43] table it, but at least there's the
[2:04:45] option there, is what I'm saying.
[2:04:47] >> So, we can look at it. I think, you
[2:04:49] know, [clears throat] I want to get a
[2:04:50] little feedback from everybody and
[2:04:52] they'll have a chance to look down
[2:04:54] through this, too, and see what what it
[2:04:57] means to them.
[2:04:58] I don't think there's anybody worried
[2:04:59] about getting you the information that
[2:05:01] you want and
[2:05:04] it may sound even worse than it really
[2:05:06] is. So,
[2:05:07] uh
[2:05:08] it's it's just a matter of we doing it
[2:05:10] all correct and is there anything we
[2:05:12] want to adjust?
[2:05:14] >> Well, I mean, I guess
[2:05:16] why can't it be on the session to be
[2:05:19] voted on?
[2:05:21] Like that that's what we do is is things
[2:05:23] get put up for that and then
[2:05:25] we decide like I I I don't see why
[2:05:29] we can't have it for a vote.
[2:05:32] Like it to be able to be voted on,
[2:05:34] whether it's accepted, denied,
[2:05:37] or tabled.
[2:05:41] Cuz then it is on the agenda and we do
[2:05:42] have the right to talk about it. That's
[2:05:45] why That's why I want like
[2:05:46] >> a problem a problem with that. I just
[2:05:49] hadn't looked at it or thought about it,
[2:05:52] you know.
[2:05:53] Do I Do we need to have it on there to
[2:05:56] vote or do we want to talk about it in
[2:05:57] the meeting in the meeting and
[2:06:01] But if you want it on that agenda
[2:06:04] and and that's the way it has to be to
[2:06:06] make you happy?
[2:06:09] >> Well, that's why That's what I'm That's
[2:06:10] what I'm That is what I'm requesting is that it can be even like a discuss
[2:06:14] and possible action type of thing.
[2:06:16] Like we have that for the rap tax and different things
[2:06:20] like those things haven't necessarily
[2:06:22] been looked at well in advance, but
[2:06:25] like I feel like it's been like common
[2:06:27] practice to say, "Hey, here's this
[2:06:29] thing. We can discuss and there's
[2:06:30] possible action, but it doesn't
[2:06:34] like and and and we've tabled stuff
[2:06:36] before, too.
[2:06:38] So, I mean, I don't know
[2:06:44] like why we would delay putting it on
[2:06:46] the regular session agenda
[2:06:48] if there's an ability to table it and to
[2:06:50] discuss it and delay it if if we wanted.
[2:06:55] » Does everybody want to discuss it at a
[2:06:57] meeting?
[2:06:58] >> to discuss it.
[2:06:59] >> Pardon?
[2:06:59] >> I'd like to discuss it.
[2:07:00] >> You want it in a regular council?
[2:07:02] >> I think we should discuss it in a work
[2:07:04] session.
[2:07:07] » There's a work session.
[2:07:09] Then?
[2:07:12] » [clears throat]
[2:07:12] >> Yeah, I'm not sure how Like I said, I
[2:07:13] haven't had time to read through it or
[2:07:15] talk about it, but I feel like we ought to talk about it as
[2:07:20] a council first. I don't care if it's in
[2:07:22] a council meeting or
[2:07:23] work session, but I think we ought to
[2:07:24] have a chance to talk about it.
[2:07:27] Discuss it.
[2:07:28] You have a feeling?
[2:07:30] >> I'm okay either way, but if we put it on
[2:07:31] the regular agenda, we can or the
[2:07:33] regular regular meeting, we can still
[2:07:35] talk about it work session beforehand.
[2:07:36] We go through the agenda items anyways.
[2:07:38] >> Sure.
[2:07:40] >> All right.
[2:07:41] >> I like what what um
[2:07:43] he said.
[2:07:44] >> Okay, so it'll be on the it'll be on the
[2:07:46] work session while we just discuss it
[2:07:48] >> It's been a long road.
[2:07:49] >> briefly and then we'll put it on the
[2:07:51] work session. Okay.
[2:07:53] >> On the regular session or the work
[2:07:54] session?
[2:07:54] >> Or I mean, on the regular session.
[2:07:56] >> Okay. Okay. Cuz just because it's on the
[2:07:58] regular session doesn't mean that
[2:07:59] council is supporting it or approving
[2:08:02] it. It just means that it's up for
[2:08:03] consideration. That's all.
[2:08:05] >> That's
[2:08:06] >> Okay.
[2:08:07] >> Yeah.
[2:08:07] >> Thanks.
[2:08:08] Um
[2:08:10] >> Your time's up.
[2:08:11] >> I That was it.
[2:08:13] Uh other than other than the it was a
[2:08:15] great uh Hometown Market
[2:08:18] and um city staff did an amazing job and
[2:08:21] the chamber did amazing job. Um and so,
[2:08:25] I'm really I I'm really optimistic about
[2:08:27] where things are going with that.
[2:08:29] That's it.
[2:08:30] >> Okay, I've got uh few things I need to
[2:08:33] go over. Um
[2:08:35] Jake, thank you for being here today.
[2:08:38] Um
[2:08:39] Jake [clears throat] met with me uh
[2:08:41] about a month ago and we went through uh
[2:08:45] offer
[2:08:46] that he had made. Now, I don't know how
[2:08:48] deep I want to get into that offer right
[2:08:50] now, but
[2:08:51] Jake and his brother Joel
[2:08:54] um
[2:08:55] would like to help us with the
[2:08:57] roof of the museum.
[2:09:00] A substantial
[2:09:02] uh donation to help us.
[2:09:05] We need to worry about
[2:09:06] uh
[2:09:07] the rest of that money to help to cover
[2:09:10] that and I've kind of been holding off
[2:09:14] because we need to have a long
[2:09:16] discussion about the bats are back.
[2:09:20] And so, there's $18,000 that we need for
[2:09:23] the bats.
[2:09:24] Um the boiler has gone down. Jason, what
[2:09:28] were your feelings on that boiler and
[2:09:31] the pipes associated?
[2:09:33] >> You mean the series of Band-Aids?
[2:09:36] >> Band-Aids on pipes?
[2:09:38] >> The boiler's relatively well. It's It's
[2:09:42] It was put in the year before I hired
[2:09:43] here, so it's 28 years old.
[2:09:46] So, but the pipes in there are even
[2:09:49] older than that. They're They're and
[2:09:51] they've just sat there in the crawl
[2:09:53] space and they're starting to rust out
[2:09:55] and we've had multiple issues the last
[2:09:57] couple years trying to get in there and
[2:09:59] repair pipes and
[2:10:01] it's uh it's the quite the process to to
[2:10:04] get in there and and the the plumbing
[2:10:07] needs to be
[2:10:08] changed. We need up update it.
[2:10:11] >> So, there's a substantial amount to uh
[2:10:14] come up with that, too?
[2:10:16] >> Yeah. Yeah, it's it's it's quite a bit
[2:10:18] of money. I think it was right around It
[2:10:20] was 100 100 and thousand dollars to to
[2:10:23] do that.
[2:10:24] >> Something to keep it going. So
[2:10:27] you know, there's one other issue and
[2:10:29] that was in the budget for this year. We
[2:10:31] had money to put an elevator in and
[2:10:33] that's what we want to do with
[2:10:34] >> A fire escape not an elevator.
[2:10:36] >> Fire escape. [laughter]
[2:10:38] I would rather have the elevator and
[2:10:39] then we're ADA.
[2:10:40] >> but they're about three times as much.
[2:10:42] >> Yeah.
[2:10:45] But there's still a bit of money to be spent on it. We
[2:10:49] need a discussion so that the Caster
[2:10:52] family will know what we want to do.
[2:10:56] And
[2:10:57] um
[2:10:59] how we can look at
[2:11:01] keeping that thing alive.
[2:11:03] You know, if if we don't pour some
[2:11:07] serious money into this
[2:11:09] and grateful for the Casters even
[2:11:12] considering what they can do for the
[2:11:14] city because
[2:11:16] they're a family of service and
[2:11:19] you know, you've always stepped up and I
[2:11:22] appreciate that very much, Jake. And
[2:11:25] I'm sorry I haven't given you back an
[2:11:27] answer because every time I turn around
[2:11:29] and start talking about the museum,
[2:11:31] another issue comes up. And I didn't
[2:11:33] even know the bats were back at the at
[2:11:36] the time. Uh I thought we
[2:11:38] solved that, but every time you have to
[2:11:40] pay another twenty thousand dollars to
[2:11:43] take care of the bats you also have to
[2:11:46] arrange it around when they've headed
[2:11:49] off for their yearly head to the jungle. I don't
[2:11:53] know. So
[2:11:55] um
[2:11:56] we'll get an answer soon and I think on
[2:11:59] the next work session that's one more
[2:12:02] thing I would like to put on there is
[2:12:04] the museum
[2:12:06] and talk about it, but I also have a
[2:12:08] couple of other things, too. And
[2:12:11] that is
[2:12:12] I I would like to start in the next
[2:12:14] month or two talking about what are we
[2:12:17] going to do with the old library?
[2:12:19] >> Mhm. And what can we make with that? And
[2:12:22] how can we improve
[2:12:24] life in Santaquin? Are Are there things
[2:12:26] we haven't thought about?
[2:12:28] And so, we need a discussion there.
[2:12:32] Um
[2:12:33] there's there's one other thing and it's
[2:12:35] another family that lives in town has
[2:12:38] given us
[2:12:40] um
[2:12:41] their log cabin, the Hudson family.
[2:12:45] It's sitting now down at the public
[2:12:47] works building and um
[2:12:50] we need to figure out if we can
[2:12:53] put it in a good place.
[2:12:55] We've got a little bit of work that we
[2:12:57] need to come up with. We've had people
[2:12:59] that have offered money to help us with
[2:13:02] that as well.
[2:13:03] Um but that is the original farmer
[2:13:07] that started apple farming in Santaquin.
[2:13:11] He's the one that was the first shipper
[2:13:13] of apples to California from Utah.
[2:13:17] Um
[2:13:19] there's a lot to be said with what we
[2:13:21] have in heritage
[2:13:23] with good families, but also with people
[2:13:26] that are willing to give,
[2:13:28] you know,
[2:13:29] a good piece.
[2:13:31] So, we've got that to look at. We need
[2:13:33] to discuss that as well. So,
[2:13:36] we don't need that on top of everything
[2:13:38] else we have to do next month, but
[2:13:41] probably within a um
[2:13:43] the month of that,
[2:13:45] we need to put the Hudson home on there
[2:13:47] as well.
[2:13:49] I think they had eight children in that
[2:13:51] house. Jeez.
[2:13:55] Smaller than a shed.
[2:13:57] And then finally, uh CUP.
[2:14:01] Have they made the hookup yet? And are
[2:14:04] we at the point that we can we are
[2:14:06] drawing water from the CUP?
[2:14:09] >> They're working on that now. I reported
[2:14:11] on that in my meeting. They I know they
[2:14:12] met on site today and we're getting
[2:14:14] ready to do to connect into our line and
[2:14:16] build the the system. They were just
[2:14:18] waiting on parts and materials and still
[2:14:20] waiting on some parts and materials. So,
[2:14:22] >> How how far out are the parts? Have they cut into it yet?
[2:14:26] >> Not yet. But, that's my understanding is
[2:14:29] Please, Jason. You you John and Jason
[2:14:31] met with them earlier today.
[2:14:33] >> Yeah, Mayor Council, we met with them on
[2:14:36] site this day today and uh they are
[2:14:38] going to do the hot tap on Thursday.
[2:14:41] So, they have the valve, they have the
[2:14:43] tapping sleeve on.
[2:14:44] They plan on doing that to Thursday
[2:14:46] morning.
[2:14:47] And they did say that the parts were
[2:14:50] uh
[2:14:50] coming that they're
[2:14:52] the one item that is going to be lagging
[2:14:55] is the meter.
[2:14:56] >> [clears throat]
[2:14:56] >> But, they've already offered a solution
[2:14:58] there. They're going to put a spool
[2:15:00] piece in. We think we can still operate
[2:15:02] the valve
[2:15:04] uh without the meter until the meter
[2:15:06] gets in. So, with those valves, you can
[2:15:08] pretty much tell how much water you're
[2:15:10] getting by how far they're open. So,
[2:15:13] we should come up with a solution there.
[2:15:16] Hoping around the 24th of July or so is
[2:15:18] what they were telling us.
[2:15:19] >> Mhm.
[2:15:20] >> Okay. I was hoping a little sooner.
[2:15:24] Okay, that is all that I had. Well, I
[2:15:27] did have a couple other things, but
[2:15:29] we'll forget that. Um
[2:15:32] I need a motion to
[2:15:36] go into a closed session that may be
[2:15:38] called to discuss pending or reasonably
[2:15:41] imminent litigation, collective
[2:15:43] bargaining, and or the purchase,
[2:15:45] exchange, or lease of real property,
[2:15:48] a proposed development agreement, a
[2:15:50] project proposal, or a financing
[2:15:52] proposal related to the development of
[2:15:55] land owned by the state.
[2:15:57] >> So moved.
[2:15:58] >> Is there a second?
[2:16:01] >> I'll second.
[2:16:03] >> Brian?
[2:16:03] >> Aye.
[2:16:04] >> Art?
[2:16:04] >> Aye.
[2:16:05] >> Jeff?
[2:16:05] >> Aye.
[2:16:06] >> Lynn?
[2:16:07] >> Aye.
[2:16:08] >> Travis?
[2:16:08] >> Aye.
[2:16:09] >> It's 9:27.
[2:16:11] Uh we will go into that closed session.
[2:16:14] At the end of the closed session, we'll
[2:16:16] come back in here and close council
[2:16:18] meeting. So,
[2:16:19] thank you for being here and uh
[2:16:22] appreciate you.