1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,390 Yeah. 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,550 Don't touch the microphone. 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,440 Thank you. 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:17,960 All right. We will get the DRC 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:22,600 started for Tuesday, July 14th at 10:00 6 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:24,000 a.m. 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,120 We'll jump right into the agenda. First 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:33,560 item of business is a review of a proposed subdivision. 9 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,720 This is the final application for the 10 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,320 130 South subdivision, 11 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,240 specifically related to lot one 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,640 of of the site of the overall 13 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,120 subdivision. 14 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,520 Preliminary approval was granted by the 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,320 planning commission and this is DRC's 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,880 review of the the final application, 17 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,520 specifically for 18 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,270 the first phase or lot one. 19 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,840 Historically, this is we reviewed it. 20 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,480 is anticipated that a a church 21 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,720 chapel will be built on this lot. 22 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,080 However, site plan application will come 23 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,400 later for that specific for that 24 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,200 specific building. This is related 25 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,800 only for the subdivision itself. 26 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,480 And so 27 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,640 Again, this is final application. DRC is 28 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:23,840 the final 29 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,960 review and approval body for this. 30 00:01:26,960 --> 00:01:28,960 And so again, some options for this 31 00:01:28,960 --> 00:01:30,520 would be 32 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,240 approval, approval conditions, or table 33 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,040 depending on what what we find as we go 34 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,760 through the DRC. 35 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,880 So, with that, 36 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,520 go around the DRC with any comments, starting with 37 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,000 Aspen with planning. 38 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,800 >> Planning has no comments. 39 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,000 >> Okay. 40 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,560 Randy, is building? 41 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,520 >> I remember citing an address to this, 42 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:51,920 but I don't see it on there. So, we'll 43 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,320 have to find out what that is. And 44 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:54,880 >> Okay. 45 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,800 >> Make sure we get it on the plat. 46 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:58,400 >> Okay. 47 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,920 >> Other than that, nothing. 48 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:02,800 >> Sounds good. 49 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,680 Jason Calloway, Public Works. 50 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,200 Just uh the entrance exit on 130 South 51 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,240 there. 52 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,240 Pretty 53 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,120 >> Oh, as So, that'll be on site plan. So, 54 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,200 you're talking about the If you remember 55 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,080 from the from the original one, it 56 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,720 showed that this is a proposed access 57 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:23,080 >> Yeah. 58 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,066 >> location for the the site. 59 00:02:26,066 --> 00:02:26,640 [clears throat] 60 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:28,440 So, they'll have two on there, one 61 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,000 coming in the roadway for 200 South 62 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:32,240 >> Yeah. 63 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:33,640 >> uh is supposed to be done [snorts] with 64 00:02:33,640 --> 00:02:37,480 this development um with the the church 65 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,480 building going in. And then they'd have 66 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,800 us another access would be here off of 67 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,840 130 South and through 200 South. 68 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,800 >> Yeah. It's pretty steep. It's right 69 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:46,880 there on that corner. 70 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:47,760 >> It is, yep. 71 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,640 >> Does it will it meet our code? 72 00:02:49,640 --> 00:02:50,880 >> It [clears throat] does it does meet our 73 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,320 code in distance-wise. 74 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:53,280 >> Between 75 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:53,680 >> As far as 76 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,120 >> between an interchange and an entrance 77 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:57,040 into it. 78 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:58,161 >> Okay. 79 00:02:58,161 --> 00:02:58,440 >> [snorts] 80 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,000 >> That was just one of my concerns as far 81 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:00,640 as 82 00:03:00,640 --> 00:03:02,519 >> Yeah, people sliding down. I think 83 00:03:02,519 --> 00:03:03,519 >> snow plow and 84 00:03:03,519 --> 00:03:04,120 >> Yeah. 85 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:04,560 >> See 86 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,040 >> uh 87 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:07,840 >> Police may have had the same same 88 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,080 comments or concerns on there. 89 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:10,880 >> Yeah, I was I was going to make the same 90 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,040 comment. I know that it meets code, but 91 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:13,720 uh 92 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,959 I don't really love that location as far 93 00:03:15,959 --> 00:03:17,760 as public safety coming up and down that 94 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,080 130 cuz it is a grade on that road and 95 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:21,440 that corner. 96 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,560 And if I remember right, and I think I 97 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,040 talked to you about it, it is right at 98 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,360 that 150 point. It is like 99 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:28,200 >> It's right at the edge. 100 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:28,680 >> Barely 101 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:29,320 >> That's correct. 102 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,519 >> meeting code. 103 00:03:30,519 --> 00:03:31,840 >> That is correct. 104 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,040 And so, there are some things that we 105 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,959 could work with them on the site plan on 106 00:03:34,959 --> 00:03:37,160 potentially how we could level that out 107 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,080 a little bit on the site. 108 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,120 >> If we Yeah, level it 109 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:41,800 >> level it out, that would help. So, those 110 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,800 are things we we can bring with them 111 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,480 during the uh site plan review on there. 112 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,480 >> Okay. All right. Other than that, I 113 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:49,680 don't have any. 114 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:50,720 >> Okay. 115 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,480 Mike, anything else? Please. 116 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,440 >> I'm going to hit rewind and play. I have 117 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,280 the same comment, um, the single point 118 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,080 access and egress as well, but I wasn't 119 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:06,320 aware of the, uh, second access on 130. 120 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,070 >> Mhm. 121 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:11,520 » Okay. 122 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:12,840 Um, 123 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,160 anything else, Alan? 124 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:15,320 >> No. 125 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:16,760 >> Jason? 126 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,640 >> I don't really have much to add. 127 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:19,840 >> Okay. 128 00:04:19,840 --> 00:04:23,200 Um, just go through any, um, couple 129 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,480 quick comments from from engineering. 130 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,240 Um, just with the the closures on this, 131 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,919 the uh, this is a storm drain easement 132 00:04:32,919 --> 00:04:35,640 related to the storm drain for the 133 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,640 cul-de-sac. They do have an easement 134 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,600 here, but we are missing a call on on 135 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,960 that easement length there. 136 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,120 Other than that, I believe, if I talked 137 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,400 about that access, 138 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,478 I believe that was it. 139 00:04:51,478 --> 00:04:54,830 >> [snorts] 140 00:04:54,840 --> 00:04:56,480 » Yes. 141 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,360 So, those are all the comments related 142 00:04:58,360 --> 00:04:59,560 to it. 143 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,640 Um, there's any any other thoughts or 144 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,840 questions or comments, then 145 00:05:04,840 --> 00:05:08,120 we'd look for a motion. 146 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,280 >> I'll make a motion to approve the 130 147 00:05:10,280 --> 00:05:11,760 South Church Subdivision with the 148 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,440 condition that all red lines be 149 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:14,560 addressed. 150 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:15,320 >> Okay. 151 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,600 Got a motion. Is there a second? 152 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:18,520 >> Second. 153 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,298 >> Seconded by Randy. 154 00:05:20,298 --> 00:05:20,360 >> [snorts] 155 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,360 >> Any discussion on the motion? 156 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:24,840 Hearing none, we'll go to vote. All in 157 00:05:24,840 --> 00:05:26,320 favor, please say I. 158 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:27,320 >> I. 159 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:28,840 >> Are there any opposed? 160 00:05:28,840 --> 00:05:31,440 Okay. Motion passed. Uh, work on getting 161 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,640 these comments over and 162 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:34,040 >> That's great. 163 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:35,000 >> uh, get them addressed. 164 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:35,880 >> Thank you so much. 165 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:36,840 >> we can [snorts] 166 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:39,080 work towards uh, recordation. So, 167 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:39,840 >> Sounds good. Thank you. 168 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:42,240 >> Thank you. 169 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,200 All right, the next item on the agenda 170 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,840 is review of a another, uh, this is a 171 00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:49,840 two lot subdivision 172 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:54,670 proposed let me go 173 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,960 Um this is over off of Highland Drive 174 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,320 and 120 175 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:05,280 East. Uh Apple Orchard Hills Elementary is 176 00:06:05,280 --> 00:06:07,000 located right here. 177 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,120 Um 178 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,200 and then this is a a 179 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,440 piece of property that's um supposed to 180 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,200 in the future we'll see it again site 181 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:16,560 plan application will need to come 182 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,040 forward on this one as well but um 183 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,280 and they're proposing to put uh storage 184 00:06:22,280 --> 00:06:23,680 units on there. 185 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,240 Um however this is a strictly review of 186 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,160 the uh subdivision itself. 187 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,680 Um site plan will be addressed and taken 188 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,000 care of in the future application. 189 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,120 Um it's beneficial and it can be helpful 190 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:41,320 uh to kind of see how it all lays out um 191 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,040 for the subdivision itself so we can 192 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,440 have some context to it. However there 193 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,760 will be some uh there will need to be 194 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,480 some changes up for the subdivision 195 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,720 application just so that the site plan's 196 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,840 not as prominent once it's as it goes 197 00:06:53,840 --> 00:06:56,760 through the subdivision application. 198 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:57,840 So 199 00:06:57,840 --> 00:06:59,000 um 200 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,720 with that 201 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:01,800 we'll 202 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,040 go around the DRC with any 203 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,600 um I'll back up. This is a preliminary 204 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,320 application for subdivision. So the DRC 205 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:11,840 is a 206 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:12,440 uh 207 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,720 recommending body. We would recommend if 208 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:15,560 um 209 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,880 couple of applications one it could be a 210 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,720 couple of actions uh application could 211 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,640 be forwarded to the planning commission 212 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,640 with either a positive 213 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,040 we'll just forward it to the planning 214 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:27,640 commission with any comments that need 215 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,640 to be addressed um or to table the 216 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,640 application. Depending on what what uh 217 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,520 DRC feels we need to 218 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,360 Uh with that we'll go around the DRC. 219 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:39,919 Start with Aspen. 220 00:07:39,919 --> 00:07:41,760 >> Um we need a density table to be 221 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,200 included displaying the zoning and then 222 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,760 like the building area requirements and 223 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,920 different things like that. And then on 224 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,720 the plat it's no longer the city council 225 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,200 that approves a subdivision, it's the 226 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:55,680 planning commission. So, if you'll just 227 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,160 update that signature block. 228 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,280 Um, and then just an extra reminder with 229 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:02,760 like the site plan needing a separate 230 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,800 application, all the retaining walls 231 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,240 will also need a separate building 232 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,350 permit. 233 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:10,800 I think that's everything. 234 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,160 >> Okay, one thing that I'll just cover 235 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,000 real quick on the plat, um, 236 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,720 because there's 237 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,080 uh 238 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,240 the subdivision there are there's a 239 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,440 property here that's owned by a separate 240 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,080 uh separate entity. Uh 241 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,520 some this this lot here 242 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,800 um, needs is 243 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,800 a separate ownership. So, their 244 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,080 signatures will need to be on 245 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,000 coordination with them. Will need to be 246 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,840 uh completed. Also, it is highly 247 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,719 recommended that you have a separate 248 00:08:40,719 --> 00:08:43,280 notary acknowledgement for that property 249 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,640 owner. Cuz sometimes trying to either 250 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,640 unless all all property owners are get 251 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,000 together at the same time, which can be 252 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,560 uh 253 00:08:54,560 --> 00:08:56,440 black bear term, it can be a chore to 254 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,640 try to get to get done. Um, it's 255 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,040 recommended that you have a separate 256 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,600 notary acknowledgement just because it's 257 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,800 easier if they take it and go to get 258 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,760 their have a notary and then someone 259 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,960 else can go and move around there. Just 260 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,510 as a a recommendation there. 261 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,600 Um, okay. Randy? 262 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:14,640 >> Yes. 263 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,560 I seem to remember that we did address 264 00:09:16,560 --> 00:09:18,280 it on this at one point too, but I don't 265 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,480 see it, but this is 266 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,640 >> This is preliminary. Probably was done 267 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:23,880 This is a 268 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,320 This isn't first time an application 269 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:26,600 like this has come through with this 270 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,200 particular property. So. 271 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:29,440 >> So, we'll catch it. Make sure we get it 272 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,120 before finals. 273 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:32,400 Other than that, I don't have anything 274 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:33,040 else. 275 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:34,480 >> Okay. 276 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,480 Jason with public works? 277 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:37,840 >> You know, had a note on there about 278 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,320 Summit Creek Irrigation. That's my 279 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,080 biggest concern is they have a lot of 280 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,440 infrastructure in this area. 281 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,040 I just need to make sure that they're aware of what's going on and get 282 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,400 their buy-off on 283 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:51,240 what they're doing with this 284 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,600 subdivision. So, I I don't know if 285 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,200 they've looked at it or 286 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:56,520 >> Yeah. 287 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,680 >> Or if that comes at the site plan. 288 00:09:58,680 --> 00:10:00,880 >> Well, that there are some things they'll 289 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,480 probably need done sooner than later 290 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,000 just because 291 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,200 they would be piping 292 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:07,560 this 293 00:10:07,560 --> 00:10:09,600 uh the section from one of their 294 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,640 diversion boxes 295 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,360 down and through the across the roadway 296 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,480 and through the property. So, it would 297 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,760 need be accommodated with with the 298 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,840 subdivision just because there is some 299 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,160 parts that are impacted related to that. 300 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,720 And and yes, there is 301 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,560 there's multiple private irrigation 302 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:30,200 lines that run through. The applicant's 303 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:31,800 aware of those. 304 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,320 Um and for any piping of the existing uh 305 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,080 channel, that would need to be signed up 306 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,080 by Summit Creek cuz it's their facility. 307 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,000 >> Okay. And there is some pipes in here 308 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,160 that are not shown that that is Summit 309 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,440 Creek. So, 310 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,880 I think that needs to be kind of 311 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:47,960 updated. 312 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,440 >> That is correct. 313 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,120 >> So, that's that's my concern. But, 314 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:53,360 other than that, I'm good. 315 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,750 >> Okay. 316 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,160 » One on this one on the the new road that 317 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:00,720 it would have to go in. 318 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,000 I don't 319 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,520 know what that road is off the top of my 320 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,240 >> Uh this is First East. 100 East. 321 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,839 >> So, it along that, I guess it would be 322 00:11:08,839 --> 00:11:10,920 the west side of that road, that is 323 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,200 going to be sidewalk to attach to the 324 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:14,640 existing on the other side of that 325 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:15,360 field, right? 326 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,560 >> Yes. So, per our standard street street 327 00:11:18,560 --> 00:11:20,720 cross-section does require sidewalk on 328 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,680 both sides. And they are showing those improvements on both sides. 329 00:11:24,680 --> 00:11:25,040 >> Yeah. 330 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,120 >> Um it does deviate slightly from the 331 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,600 south end as it makes north just because 332 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,320 just to tie into that sidewalk there. 333 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:34,520 >> All right. I was just making sure for 334 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,280 safe school route type stuff, but I have 335 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:38,720 no other issues. 336 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,160 >> And there [snorts] is sidewalk that runs 337 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,000 along um 338 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,440 back to the curb and then once it 339 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,120 reaches where the irrigation structures 340 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,640 are at, it's proposed to install that 341 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,400 sidewalk back closer to the fence line. 342 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,830 >> All right. 343 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,400 » Okay. Alan? 344 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:56,440 Fire? 345 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,080 >> Yep. Mine were more related to the 346 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,480 square footage of building and uh 347 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,040 hydrants and the number of hydrants for 348 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,920 the uh the buildings that that are laid 349 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,190 out there. So. 350 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,440 » Um uh which is get great information. 351 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,240 We'll still supply it to the applicant 352 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,720 so he has it. The couple of things that 353 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,760 do want to make sure it covers the fire 354 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,960 hydrants related to especially those 355 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,760 along the frontage road. 356 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,160 Um 357 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,520 say cuz I think 358 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,280 uh right now there's a measurement here 359 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,520 from the existing fire hydrant 360 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,960 uh to where there are potentially be one 361 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,360 located about a block or so. 362 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,240 Um 363 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:41,920 uh again we may [snorts] I don't know if 364 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:43,600 it's we would be able to put one here at 365 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,200 this intersection cuz there's another 366 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,720 one further to the 367 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,000 guess this would be further east. Um 368 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,680 along 610. 369 00:12:51,680 --> 00:12:52,800 Um 370 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,200 but we would at least at least make sure 371 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,560 we're meeting our spacing of maximum 372 00:12:57,560 --> 00:12:59,520 distance of 373 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,160 250 ft I think 374 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:01,480 >> Yeah. 375 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,720 >> between fire hydrants. So making sure 376 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,360 we're meeting that. So 377 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:06,839 anticipate another hydrant would be 378 00:13:06,839 --> 00:13:10,160 needed along this side as well as 379 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,080 um there's one located here, but making 380 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:13,839 sure we're again meeting that distance 381 00:13:13,839 --> 00:13:15,834 requirements. 382 00:13:15,834 --> 00:13:16,160 >> [snorts] 383 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,040 >> Yeah, that was my primary concern the 384 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,680 big red truck and in the event of a 385 00:13:20,680 --> 00:13:25,000 fire. So looking at spacing and that. 386 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,880 >> the site. 387 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:31,510 There is some showing on there, yes. 388 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:35,830 And they do need to add some more. 389 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,600 Okay, anything else, Alan? 390 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:38,360 >> No. 391 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:39,400 >> Okay. 392 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:40,200 Jason? 393 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,160 >> Yeah, I I just I want to emphasize, and 394 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:43,920 I think it's important to state, this is 395 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,240 a subdivision review. And I think it's 396 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:47,760 great that you show some of the plans 397 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,920 that you have for the site plan. 398 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,080 Uh but there's going to be a lot of 399 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,400 comments that that uh 400 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,160 are probably going to be more suited for 401 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,280 the site plan process. So, this is just 402 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,200 the subdivision, and so 403 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:00,920 and and with this particular particular 404 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,960 property, we've seen five, six 405 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,920 iterations of of something on this site. 406 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,390 Uh 407 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:09,960 I'm always careful to get too far ahead 408 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,280 of ourselves with with what your site 409 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:13,400 plan 410 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:14,760 plans are. 411 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,720 Um so, I think it's important for the 412 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,880 DRC, this is just subdivision at this 413 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,880 point, that that all the buildings and 414 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,520 stuff like there I I feel like should be 415 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,840 removed from the subdivision plan, but I 416 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,800 think for purposes of coordinating and 417 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,080 discussing your plans with the property, 418 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:30,480 I think it is helpful, cuz obviously 419 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:31,440 there's some things that can be 420 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,760 addressed in the subdivision process, 421 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,040 and particularly the infrastructure 422 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,960 improvements that can help with your 423 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,920 future site plan. But, you've kind of 424 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:40,800 got the drawing where we've got this all 425 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,320 mushed together of site plan 426 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,160 improvements and subdivision. This is 427 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,560 just the subdivision process, so I just 428 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,040 wanted to emphasize that. Um 429 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:50,240 we've obviously got a lot of redlines, 430 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:51,400 we'll go through here in a second. Just 431 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:58,800 a couple points I want to uh to maybe uh focus on or or highlight 432 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,120 is the the property that uh I think you 433 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:03,400 showed to be dedicated to the city 434 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,640 that's on this the Let's see, where's 435 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:06,360 the key? 436 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:07,839 >> This is This is the right It's on the 437 00:15:07,839 --> 00:15:09,560 bottom side of this this this 438 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,520 >> This is east. So, east. 439 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:16,000 >> So, the east side of 100 the future the new 100 east connection. 440 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,760 Uh you've got the trail there. I think 441 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,560 we we need to see something there with how that's going to to improved. I 442 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,440 don't think we want to inherit or have 443 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,760 dedicated the city uh just a weed patch 444 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,560 with a sidewalk through it. What what 445 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:27,480 are the improvements that you're going 446 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,080 to do there? I know there's a lot of 447 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:30,920 utilities and infrastructure in there 448 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:32,880 and and we've already kind of thought of 449 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,760 our public works structure that probably 450 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,880 no trees, but you know, xeriscape, 451 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,000 rocks, boulders, maybe some shrubs, 452 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,280 things like that. But yeah, that's 453 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,040 dedicated to the city. We don't want to 454 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:45,960 dedicate have it dedicated just as a 455 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,720 another weed patch liability for for us 456 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,710 to need to take care of. Um 457 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,360 and then let's see. 458 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:57,760 Can't think of the of the other thought 459 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:58,880 that I had. But we'll we'll go through 460 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,400 all the red lines. So I'll I'll I'll let 461 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:01,840 you take that, John, and and I'll 462 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:02,960 comment as needed. 463 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,520 >> Okay. 464 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,520 Um I think 465 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,840 So one thing that does need to be 466 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,720 addressed and and brought up is right 467 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,680 now this is shown property alignment 468 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,120 doesn't necessarily match what's 469 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:18,760 actually 470 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,000 recorded at the county. So it's 471 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:22,880 anticipated that 472 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,920 there will be some right of way vacation 473 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,400 needed and dedicated and deeded to the 474 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,480 property just to clean up that alignment 475 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,839 in relationship to that so that it 476 00:16:33,839 --> 00:16:35,480 actually matches 477 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:40,120 the alignment of road and sidewalk as it makes its way up through there. So 478 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:41,040 that's something we'll need to 479 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,640 coordinate and work our way through is 480 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,400 to make sure that 481 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,080 property is is appropriately 482 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,160 deeded and and um 483 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:52,880 to the to the property owner on there to 484 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,400 get that cleaned up and done. And then 485 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:56,880 again, that can be, you know, 486 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,680 consideration for the additional right 487 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,000 of way that's being dedicated to the 488 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,440 city between the roadway and the the 489 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:08,270 school district property there. 490 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,760 Um let's see here. 491 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,400 Addressing we've already talked about 492 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,000 that. 493 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:15,439 Sorry, I'll try not to make you guys 494 00:17:15,439 --> 00:17:17,120 carsick by going through these comments 495 00:17:17,120 --> 00:17:20,630 really quick. 496 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,600 Um one item that we just need to confirm 497 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,240 or to have provided is this measurements 498 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:29,800 from the back of the building to the 499 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,040 property line. By scaling it off, 500 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:34,640 we're really close to the 25-ft 501 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,480 requirement, but just to 502 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:38,760 I mean, we're 503 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,080 according to these measurements, we're 6 504 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:41,800 in difference. 505 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,720 I don't necessarily see that as a major 506 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,920 concern, but we just need those 507 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,240 distances shown on the plans so that we 508 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,600 know that exact distance from the home 509 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,040 to the back property line. 510 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:53,120 >> So, 511 00:17:53,120 --> 00:17:54,200 can I come up to the 512 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:55,280 >> Yeah. 513 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:56,600 So, if you'll come up to that just for 514 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,600 the microphone one. Thank you. 515 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:00,760 Just say your name for the minutes, 516 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:01,280 please. 517 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,240 >> Yeah, um Norm Avery for the developer 518 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:05,347 here. So, 519 00:18:05,347 --> 00:18:05,520 >> [clears throat] 520 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:06,080 >> um 521 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,280 on that area right there, yeah, we will 522 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:09,960 make sure we look at that again, but 523 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,240 there we have traded some property with 524 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:14,600 that owner so that we meet the 525 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,800 requirement on the 25-ft. 526 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:17,280 >> Great. 527 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:18,640 >> And that will be shown. We'll We'll 528 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:19,880 double-check that and make sure it 529 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:20,520 works. 530 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,080 >> Yeah, just make sure I mean, we're 531 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:23,680 within 6 in, 532 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,400 but we just just to make sure it's clear 533 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,600 just so we're meet that 25-ft away. 534 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,440 >> Okay. Yeah, so. 535 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,990 >> Um 536 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:35,920 And one other item that we want to 537 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,920 talked about is um 538 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,040 with the previous project that was done 539 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:42,920 to re-align Highland Drive as it went 540 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,680 towards Canyon Road. 541 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:45,400 Um 542 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,280 there had been discussion with previous 543 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,320 developers about the trail improvements 544 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,440 that were done. Um that will probably 545 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,760 continue to have on there just 546 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:55,320 um 547 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:56,920 cuz there was some trail improvements 548 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,680 with anticipation of a reimbursement 549 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,480 from previous developer. And we just 550 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,120 like to continue those conversations 551 00:19:03,120 --> 00:19:07,790 with potential for that. 552 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,910 Um 553 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,760 one 554 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,440 item here that we just want to kind of 555 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,320 point out. There's a retention basin 556 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,760 shown at the top of this 557 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,880 the hill here. It's probably better to 558 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,760 pull up the grading plan, but um there 559 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,840 is quite a steep grade difference 560 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,120 between the top of the property and the 561 00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:30,760 existing roadway. 562 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:31,760 Um 563 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,040 if a retention pond is placed right 564 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,360 there on that that hill, it could 565 00:19:36,360 --> 00:19:39,240 present uh problems with piping with 566 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,120 that that retention basin failing. So, 567 00:19:42,120 --> 00:19:45,360 uh it may be required to maybe find a 568 00:19:45,360 --> 00:19:47,680 better location for that that basin. 569 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,520 >> And just maybe to reiterate uh to 570 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,320 emphasize that, you know, a few years 571 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,320 ago when we had some really high water, 572 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,720 we saw water coming out of the side of 573 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,560 that slope. So, 574 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,640 uh it's a it's a very real concern and yeah, we would don't want to see any 575 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,760 sort of failure of that slope and 576 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,750 impacting Highland Drive. 577 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,880 » Um 578 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,040 And then, let's see, just a couple quick 579 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:13,800 comments um 580 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,120 on the alignment. StormTech chambers, 581 00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:18,040 there does need to be a 5-ft separation 582 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,520 from the back of curb to where that 583 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,600 infiltration gallery is. 584 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,840 Um if that does 585 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,760 impact into the property property, then 586 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,120 we would need an easement for that for 587 00:20:29,120 --> 00:20:31,080 the city for those 588 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,480 for that. So, that's the same comment 589 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,400 all the way down through. 590 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,160 Um it's also shown that you're including 591 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,200 combo boxes on there. Those aren't 592 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,400 allowed by our specifications. Uh 593 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,520 separate inlet box from a manhole would 594 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:49,590 need to be installed on those. 595 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,920 Um additionally, um 596 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,000 there it is a as said with previous 597 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,040 applications, there was kind of a an 598 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,560 unknown or discrepancy between the two 599 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,800 property lines here. And so, basically 600 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:08,320 just written confirmation of that has been resolved and worked out 601 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:12,710 with the neighboring property. 602 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,640 Those are the same comments from storm 603 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,120 drain on the other sheet. I believe that 604 00:21:18,120 --> 00:21:19,720 these are all related to the site plan 605 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:26,030 through here. 606 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,280 One note while I'm going through this 607 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,640 real quick is that 608 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,160 um comments 609 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,320 uh we're still doing the review of this 610 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,560 the provided geotech report and storm 611 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,120 drain report. We'll get those comments 612 00:21:37,120 --> 00:21:43,110 to you once we've got those finished up. 613 00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:44,880 Um 614 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,000 And again, yep, retaining wall building 615 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,200 permits. 616 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:55,830 Okay, I believe that was it. 617 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:56,720 Okay. 618 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:57,760 Um 619 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:02,040 any other thoughts or comments from DRC? 620 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,280 If not, I would would look for a motion 621 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:10,310 on this. 622 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,000 » There's a there's a lot of red lines on 623 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,520 this and a lot of information we still 624 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,520 need, so I make a motion to table this 625 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,320 uh subdivision preliminary subdivision 626 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:18,240 application. 627 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:19,160 >> Okay. 628 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,280 >> I'll second it, Jim. 629 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,200 >> Yeah, the motion and a second. Any 630 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,280 discussion on the motion? 631 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,320 Seeing none, we'll go to vote. All in 632 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:27,760 favor, please say aye. 633 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:28,560 >> Aye. 634 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,160 >> Any [clears throat] opposed? 635 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,320 Okay, motion passes. Application's been 636 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,160 tabled. We'll work on getting these over 637 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,920 to you. Norm, work through these 638 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,400 comments and once we've got them 639 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:38,960 addressed, we can bring it back to DRC. 640 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:39,720 So 641 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,040 thank you. 642 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,480 Hey, the next item on the agenda is a 643 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,400 um 644 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,720 post trap a child at play sign located 645 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,960 at 300 West 300 North. 646 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:57,160 Um this was a request that 647 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,240 uh 648 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,240 came from the city council. 649 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,000 Uh council member Adcock uh requested 650 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,200 that the DRC look at this um 651 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:13,520 at a proposed uh child at play sign. 652 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,360 I'm working on pulling up a map for it. 653 00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:20,710 Sorry, I didn't have it up earlier. 654 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,080 At this at this intersection here to put 655 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,920 a Again, this is a a one-way street, so 656 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,160 a children at play sign would be 657 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,000 requested to be 658 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,200 placed on the the east side of the road 659 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,880 as it works its way to the north. 660 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,160 Um 661 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,720 just some 662 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:38,960 uh 663 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,320 some recommendations are uh guidance is 664 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,040 given by the 665 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,960 um or direction, I should say, that's 666 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,800 given by the Manual on Uniform Traffic 667 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,400 Control Devices or MUTCD. Say that one 668 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:52,920 10 times fast, Mike. 669 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:53,156 >> Yeah. 670 00:23:53,156 --> 00:23:54,400 >> [laughter] 671 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,440 >> Um child at play signs are only 672 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:03,800 recommended at either parks or schools. 673 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,920 Um they're not recommended for any other 674 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,720 locations. Um 675 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,360 for 676 00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:11,520 multiple reasons. Um 677 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,080 one is conditions change. 678 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,440 And so, tracking that is is is not 679 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,520 possible to track that. Um 680 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,680 also uh 681 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,240 they are they create sign fatigue. A lot 682 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,560 of times you keep throwing a bunch of 683 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,160 signs at they ends up being most people 684 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:37,760 end up ignoring them. So, per the MUTCD uh guidelines that are 685 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,760 listed, my recommendation is that we 686 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,480 wouldn't put a sign up here for that 687 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:43,560 reason. 688 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,640 But, I'll go around the DRC if there's 689 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,400 any other thoughts or comments in 690 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,720 regards to that. Aspen? 691 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,520 >> I don't have anything. 692 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:52,440 >> Hey, Randy? 693 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,680 >> Nothing. 694 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:54,840 >> Jason? 695 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,000 >> Yeah, I'm I'm the same with you, John. 696 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,640 The street I live on, there was a child 697 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,320 at play sign. Well, there's no children 698 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:00,640 that live on my street anymore. They've 699 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,200 all grown up. So, yeah, so it's just a 700 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,200 sign there that's 701 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:05,800 there now. 702 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,120 >> They won't come back and put everyone 703 00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:07,480 through it. 704 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,320 >> No. 705 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:10,200 That's all the comment I have. I 706 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:11,480 wouldn't recommend one, either. 707 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:12,360 >> Okay. 708 00:25:12,360 --> 00:25:13,720 Mike? 709 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,320 >> Um same thing you guys said. I think 710 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,680 that there's a standard uh for a reason. 711 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,600 Um and I think it's slippery slope if we 712 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,040 just start throwing them in all over the 713 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,440 place and then they get ignored. So, 714 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,280 I would also say that it's not a good 715 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:26,960 idea. 716 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:27,920 >> Okay. 717 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:28,640 Alan? 718 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,400 >> I don't have any. I have no input on it. 719 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:32,200 >> Okay. 720 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:32,680 Jason? 721 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:33,920 >> I agree with Mike. I was going to say 722 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,960 the same thing. This is I mean, our 723 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,520 whole community's full of children and 724 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,120 this sets of kind of a precedent for 725 00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:40,680 putting children at play signs on every 726 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,520 corner of the city. So, 727 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:43,400 uh 728 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:44,720 yeah, for all the other reasons that you 729 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,680 said, I I would agree. 730 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,520 >> Okay. 731 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,560 So, with that, I'd look for a motion. 732 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,160 >> John, I make a motion that we deny the 733 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,920 child at play sign request at 300 North 734 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,800 300 West. 735 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,400 >> I have a motion. Is there a second? 736 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,480 >> I'll second that. 737 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,040 >> Okay, by Alan. 738 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,680 All in favor, please say aye. 739 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:05,440 >> Aye. 740 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,720 >> Any opposed? 741 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,760 Okay. Motion passes. 742 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,560 Uh the next one is 743 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:13,160 uh 744 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,400 this is a 745 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:15,880 an application received uh a little 746 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,400 while ago. 747 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,360 Um but, it is 748 00:26:20,360 --> 00:26:22,040 um 749 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,960 it was a request to stripe Highland 750 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,760 Drive. Um 751 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,760 and we've done a few traffic studies on 752 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,760 this on this location to try to get a 753 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,520 uh an idea of the of the general speeds 754 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,680 and the speed limit on there. 755 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,760 Um and the amount of trips per day and 756 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,640 the average speed that happens on there. 757 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,800 One thing to note, this is this roadway 758 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,280 is actually a 30 30 mph road. 759 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,840 Um it changes from 25 to 30 right here 760 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,160 at 130 South is where that road 761 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,640 transitions to the 30 mph speed limit. 762 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:56,640 So, 763 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,400 um with that, from the study we did, the 764 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,640 average speed on that was 36 mph. 765 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,240 Um 766 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,040 and um 767 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,720 and we're getting about 4,100 trips per 768 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,320 day, vehicles a day on that on that 769 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,520 roadway. 770 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:14,800 Um 771 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,120 then 772 00:27:16,120 --> 00:27:18,920 I'll refer back to the MUTCD is that 773 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,320 typically once you start reaching the 774 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,920 6,500 is when most traffic 775 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,840 uh control is starts to be required. 776 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:28,600 >> Will 777 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,120 John, will you take a step back? What's the proposal for this? 778 00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:36,080 >> you. The proposal is to stripe to do a 779 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,400 to stripe the road. So, two fog lines 780 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,880 and center center dividing line. Whether 781 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,240 that be double line or 782 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,560 uh dash lines or or anything through 783 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:51,430 there. So, 784 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,400 um so with that, 785 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,360 any other thoughts or we roll around the 786 00:27:56,360 --> 00:27:59,360 DRC for comments? Aspen, you got any? 787 00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:01,400 >> Is there any harm in providing the 788 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,800 striping? Is it like a sign fatigue 789 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,560 situation or 790 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:06,920 >> Uh it ends up being long-term 791 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,520 maintenance is really kind of the cost 792 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:09,920 and then long-term maintenance is what 793 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,720 comes with with striping on there. 794 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,480 >> Okay. 795 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:14,240 >> So, 796 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,360 >> that's my only question. 797 00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:16,640 >> Okay. 798 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:17,360 Randy? 799 00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:20,880 >> Nothing. I don't see a reason for it. 800 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,160 >> Okay. 801 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,240 Jason? 802 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,960 >> I know we this has come up before and we 803 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,920 have done some things. We have installed 804 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,840 delineators along the on the west side 805 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,320 of Highland Drive and that that was one 806 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,080 of the main concerns is people not being 807 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,040 able to see the edge of the road. 808 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,840 But other than that, 809 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,240 it is a long-term maintenance issue like 810 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,200 that we don't meet the 811 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,920 trips per day 812 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,000 as far as the code goes. So, [snorts] I 813 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,960 would recommend that we wouldn't stripe 814 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,320 that at this time. 815 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,080 >> Okay. 816 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,280 Mike? 817 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,080 >> Um kind of along the same thing Jason 818 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,800 said. Uh I go back to the you know, 819 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,040 they're standards for a reason. 820 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,720 Um we don't meet that standard and the 821 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,200 speed just isn't egregious enough to use 822 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,480 speed as a justification, I don't think. 823 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,440 Um but the long-term maintenance is a 824 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,600 nightmare 825 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,280 and the delineator posts are kind of 826 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,040 more of a long-term not a whole lot 827 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,320 maintenance to them. So, I think we've 828 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,720 done what we can by and mitigated cost 829 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,200 where we can 830 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,800 um with trying to help people feel like 831 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,320 it's a better 832 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,840 fix, but I don't see any reason why it's 833 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:27,800 necessary. 834 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:28,720 >> Okay. 835 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,360 A quick question I and you may not have 836 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,680 the answer and I and I don't expect it, 837 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,920 but have we had much accidents along 838 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,840 this roadway? I'm not aware of of any, 839 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,440 but that doesn't mean 840 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:41,840 there hasn't been. 841 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,120 >> Off the top of my head, you know, we we 842 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,120 really don't have very many accidents. 843 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,240 If anything, it's like at an 844 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,640 intersection where somebody blew a stop 845 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,000 sign on 130 or something or 846 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,680 but no, there's really not very many 847 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,400 accidents and and 848 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,000 I wouldn't I would dare say there's very 849 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,160 few if any accidents that are caused 850 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,040 because of lack of striping. 851 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:04,880 >> Okay. 852 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,840 Sounds good. You know, we do we do 853 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,280 stripe from the the light on Main Street 854 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,400 up to 130 South 855 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,640 and then also the corner 856 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,760 where the corner starts to Canyon Road 857 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,720 is all striped also, so 858 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,720 those are the areas where 859 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,160 the corners are are you know, we have 860 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,240 put in some and we will continue to 861 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,120 stripe those as a maintenance item, so 862 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,280 the rest of it's just a long 863 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:31,640 straightaway. 864 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,520 >> Yep. I was just going to say those those 865 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,120 two bookends of of this road are are S 866 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,280 curves, so I think that striping is 867 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:39,480 maybe a little more justified and 868 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,571 helpful. 869 00:30:40,571 --> 00:30:41,560 >> [snorts] 870 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,800 >> The the other thing note, I think is 871 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,760 that that that intersection from Main to 872 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,760 130 is likely going to change in the 873 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:50,480 near future. 874 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:51,520 >> That is correct. 875 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:52,120 >> So, 876 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:52,560 >> Yes. 877 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:53,840 >> that will change. 878 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,880 >> Yep. 879 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,080 >> Okay. 880 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:57,920 Alan? 881 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,880 >> Yeah, uh risk-benefit profile. I don't 882 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,640 see a huge benefit in striping it, 883 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,720 especially with Highland in the the 884 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,720 geographical layout of Highland changing 885 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,440 in the near future. I think it's 886 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,280 probably something we should look at 887 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,440 maybe addressing later. 888 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,280 >> Okay. 889 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:19,000 Jason? 890 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,000 >> I certainly think it'd be a nice-to-have 891 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,680 thing, but again, our our objective here 892 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,440 is to look at it objectively and what's 893 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,160 the standard and what's what's the way 894 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,840 we look at it. So, if there's if it's 895 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,440 not justified to have the striping 896 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,600 there, I I mean, the bigger concern I 897 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,680 have on that road in traveling that road 898 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,640 is sometimes the shoulders will get bit 899 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,200 Our public works does a really good job 900 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,440 of keeping those shoulders, you know, uh 901 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,480 up to protect the asphalt, but also so 902 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,520 that, 903 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,120 you know, cars aren't aren't just going 904 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,400 off the asphalt and, you know, hitting 905 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,800 dips or or, you know, screwing up their 906 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,960 alignment or something like that. So, I 907 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,240 think for purposes of what the DRC looks 908 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,960 at, I think the standard doesn't doesn't 909 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,280 justify having striping and and because 910 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:00,920 of the the other reasons that are 911 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,800 stated, I I I think that we would deny 912 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,790 this one as well. 913 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,160 » So, um couple of things that that we can 914 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,960 say keep in mind is that as again, 915 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,920 things change and as as things change, 916 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,560 if if it's [snorts] 917 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,840 um could be determined at a later point 918 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,360 that we need to stripe it or that it'd 919 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,240 be more beneficial to do so, then then 920 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,240 something we could do, but anyway, with 921 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,920 that being said, I'd 922 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,520 look for a motion for this 923 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:31,520 uh 924 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:36,070 specific item. 925 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,840 » I'd make a motion that we deny the 926 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,960 striping on Highland Drive at this time. 927 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,200 >> I'll motion is there a second? 928 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:45,080 >> I'll second. 929 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,960 >> Second by Mike. 930 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,760 Um 931 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,240 With that, all in favor, please say I. 932 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,040 >> I. 933 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,560 >> Any opposed? Okay, motion passes. 934 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,240 On that, so the next item on the agenda 935 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,840 is the approval of the June 23rd DRC 936 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,320 meeting minutes. 937 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,520 Are there any comments? I'll look for a 938 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:09,190 motion to approve those. 939 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,640 » I'll make a motion to approve the 940 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,520 minutes from July 20th. 941 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,120 >> 23rd. 942 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,880 >> Okay. 943 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:16,600 >> Second. 944 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,840 by Randy. All in favor, please 945 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:19,600 say I. 946 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:20,200 >> I. 947 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,080 >> Any opposed? Okay, motion passes. 948 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,240 And there's nothing else for the DRC. 949 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,600 I'll look for a motion to adjourn. 950 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,760 >> Mr. Chairman, I'll make a motion that we 951 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,320 adjourn this meeting. 952 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,360 >> And we are adjourned.