1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,840 We heard from anyone else? Is this us? 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:03,800 >> Yeah, we got a 3 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:04,840 quorum. We got a quorum. 4 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:05,680 >> We got a quorum. All right. 5 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,280 >> Yeah, so we got two members at large. 6 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:09,360 >> Yeah. 7 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:10,880 Let's go. It's 7:00. 8 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:11,960 >> Fine. 9 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:13,600 >> All right. 10 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,240 We will get started then. Welcome 11 00:00:16,240 --> 00:00:17,800 everyone to Santa Monica City Planning 12 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:19,160 Commission. 13 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,880 Uh it's Tuesday, July 28th, 2026. We're 14 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,040 getting started at 7:01 p.m. 15 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:26,280 All right. Would anyone like to get us 16 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,120 started tonight with an inspirational 17 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:34,550 thought or an invocation? 18 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:35,600 » I'll give the invocation. 19 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,920 >> Thank you. 20 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,480 >> Our Father in heaven, we are grateful 21 00:00:39,480 --> 00:00:40,760 for 22 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,200 all the blessings that we have received 23 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,040 from thee. We're grateful for the rain 24 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:45,280 and precipitation that we received. We 25 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,480 ask for more. We 26 00:00:47,480 --> 00:00:50,080 ask thee to bless us with um 27 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:51,400 the the things that we need for this 28 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:52,800 city. And these things we ask for in the 29 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,760 name of Jesus Christ. Amen. 30 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:55,640 >> All right, thank you, Commissioner 31 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,000 Christopher. Would anyone like to uh 32 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,080 lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance 33 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:00,840 tonight? 34 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,910 >> I can. Thank you. 35 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,480 » Repeat after me. 36 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,120 >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the 37 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,480 United States of America. 38 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,240 And to the republic for which it stands, 39 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,440 one nation under God, 40 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,200 indivisible, with liberty and justice 41 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,220 for all. 42 00:01:21,220 --> 00:01:23,990 >> [clears throat] 43 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,040 » All right, thank you, Commissioner 44 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,750 Johnson. 45 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:29,680 Okay, on the screen here before us we 46 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,440 have the the agenda for tonight. Um 47 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:33,800 if there's no objection, I think we'll 48 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,960 just proceed in this order. Um 49 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:39,080 we'll start though before we get into 50 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:40,440 agenda item number one with the public 51 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,200 forum. So, for those of you in 52 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,240 attendance tonight, that is the 53 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:45,600 opportunity for the public to address 54 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,200 the commission um 55 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:48,360 with regard to anything that's on your 56 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,440 mind. However, we do have two public 57 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,320 hearings on the agenda. So, if you're 58 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,400 here for either of those public hearings 59 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:55,480 and would like to comment on those 60 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,240 items, we'd ask you to hold those 61 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:58,680 comments until we get to those public 62 00:01:58,680 --> 00:01:59,760 hearings. 63 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,560 Um but if there's anything else that 64 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:02,440 you'd like to bring up before the 65 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,200 commission tonight, now is the time. So, 66 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,960 I'll open the public forum at 7:03 and 67 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,520 invite any comments if anyone would like 68 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,280 to. 69 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,360 >> Trevor, can I ask that Sorry, that was 70 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,480 so loud. Can I ask that we do the 71 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,160 proposed conditional use permit before 72 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,280 the public hearings because the 73 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:18,959 applicant is in the audience? 74 00:02:18,959 --> 00:02:20,840 >> Absolutely, we can do that. 75 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:21,800 >> Thank you. 76 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,830 >> No problem. 77 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,880 Okay, any comments for the public forum? 78 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,040 Okay, then we will close the public 79 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,840 forum at 7:03 and um 80 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,120 as requested, we'll move right into 81 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,720 agenda item number three. This is the 82 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,120 proposed conditional use permit for Wild 83 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:42,710 Thistle Cafe Class C alcohol license. 84 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,040 » Okay, like Trevor has already 85 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,840 introduced, Wild Thistle Cafe is located 86 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,480 at 77 West Main Street and they're 87 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,120 requesting a Class C alcohol 88 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,920 establishment to 89 00:02:53,920 --> 00:02:56,400 the limited service restaurant license. 90 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,080 So, 70% of the sales would still come 91 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,239 from the sale of food. 92 00:03:01,239 --> 00:03:03,800 Alcohol would be the minor 93 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:08,040 income and it is part of the Main Street 94 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,239 business district zone. 95 00:03:10,239 --> 00:03:12,120 Um formerly, it was the central business 96 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,680 district before we removed it, which it 97 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,560 wasn't allowed use. But because it's 98 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,320 just the MSC now, it requires a 99 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:19,880 conditional use. 100 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,000 Within the Santaquin City code, we don't 101 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,400 have any specific conditions outlined. 102 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:26,959 But we do still have to go through the 103 00:03:26,959 --> 00:03:28,200 process. 104 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:28,760 Um 105 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,120 for reference, here it is located on 106 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,040 Main Street. 107 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,239 And then 108 00:03:35,239 --> 00:03:37,280 this is 109 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,280 a letter from them just explaining 110 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,910 their request. 111 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:45,920 So, 112 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,120 your job today is to make a motion to 113 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,640 approve or deny the conditional use 114 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,840 permit for the proposed Wild Thistle 115 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,520 classify it as a alcohol establishment 116 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:54,840 license. 117 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,640 And the applicant is with us. 118 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,880 >> All right. Thanks, Asmin. Um for the 119 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:00,120 applicants, is there anything you'd like 120 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:06,272 to add to that presentation? 121 00:04:06,282 --> 00:04:06,480 » [snorts] 122 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,040 >> Is there Would you like to add anything? 123 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,790 >> Say my friend will do it. I was excited. 124 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,560 Is there anything you want to say? 125 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:14,880 >> I mean, the 126 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,120 letter kind of just outlines like 127 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,440 >> Would you step up to the microphone for 128 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:19,959 us and state your name for the record? 129 00:04:19,959 --> 00:04:20,840 Thanks. 130 00:04:20,840 --> 00:04:22,040 >> add that, too. 131 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,440 Um Chesley Cordis. 132 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,990 Um the letter kind of just outlines like 133 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,960 what it is and how we intend to use it. 134 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,960 Um I guess the only thing that doesn't 135 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,909 have on there 136 00:04:38,919 --> 00:04:40,720 Oh, no, it does say 137 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,280 beer and wine. 138 00:04:42,280 --> 00:04:44,400 So, it wouldn't be any like 139 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,200 full alcohol. So, like no cocktails or 140 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,360 shots or anything like that. Um 141 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:51,960 just beer and wine. That's really all I 142 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:52,960 wanted to add. But 143 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,240 >> Okay. 144 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,160 >> I feel like it goes over what we need 145 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:57,000 to. 146 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,160 >> Great. Thank you. 147 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,080 >> Yeah. 148 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,240 >> Okay. 149 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,160 All right, commissioners. Um 150 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,120 any questions on the application or any 151 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,240 thoughts? 152 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,200 >> I'll just share that I The restaurant is 153 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,400 run very well, and I don't see any 154 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,160 problem with this at all. 155 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:23,150 >> Yeah, I agree. 156 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:24,320 » If I could just add one thing. So, I 157 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:25,919 Asmin did did cover it, but I just 158 00:05:25,919 --> 00:05:27,960 wanted to kind of hammer home. The last 159 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,680 zoning district it was in, it was 160 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,200 already a permitted use. By our own code 161 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:33,880 amendments, it made it a conditional 162 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,320 use. So. 163 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,800 And there's no built-in standards or or 164 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:38,640 uh 165 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,320 you know, guidelines in our code for it. 166 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:41,600 It's just 167 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:42,840 listed as a conditional use. 168 00:05:42,840 --> 00:05:44,080 >> This is just a step in the process? 169 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:45,200 >> Yeah. 170 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:46,498 >> Right. 171 00:05:46,498 --> 00:05:46,520 >> [clears throat] 172 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,560 >> Okay. Thank you for that. 173 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,320 Okay. 174 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:52,520 >> I can make a motion? 175 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:53,800 >> You can make a motion if there's no 176 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,880 further discussion. 177 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,000 >> I make a motion that we approve 178 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,560 this application. 179 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,280 >> Okay, we've got a motion to approve by 180 00:06:01,280 --> 00:06:02,360 Commissioner Christopher. Do we have a 181 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,840 second? 182 00:06:04,840 --> 00:06:06,120 >> I'll second. 183 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,160 >> Second by Commissioner Russell. Any 184 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,080 further discussion? 185 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,360 Okay, let's vote. Commissioner Johnson. 186 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:14,080 >> Yes. 187 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,160 >> Commissioner Wood, yes. Commissioner 188 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:16,800 Christopher. 189 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:17,240 >> Yes. 190 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:18,000 >> Commissioner Russell. 191 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:18,760 >> Yes. 192 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,720 >> Okay, the application is approved and 193 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,520 it's unanimous. 194 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:23,600 Thank you. 195 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:24,560 >> Thank you guys. 196 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:25,960 >> Certainly. 197 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,990 Okay. 198 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,120 » We'll just finish signing that 199 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:31,480 conditional use permit and then it'll be 200 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,310 ready probably by tomorrow. 201 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:36,240 » Okay. 202 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,000 Thank you. We will now move on to agenda 203 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,600 item number one. This is a proposed 204 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,120 code amendment prohibiting fuel tanks 205 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,680 over 150 gallons in all residential 206 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:53,670 zones. 207 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,680 » Okay, 208 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,720 for this it is changing several sections 209 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,280 of code because it's going to apply to 210 00:07:00,280 --> 00:07:02,240 all residential zones. 211 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,710 Um 212 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,919 So, it's just prohibiting fuel tanks 213 00:07:06,919 --> 00:07:09,560 over 150 gallons. 214 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,240 Our home occupation code already 215 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:18,750 outlines that any 216 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,640 Let me find it. Oh, yeah. Any home 217 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,040 occupation which entails the use of 218 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:23,600 chemicals exceeding typical household 219 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,280 quantities, pesticides, inflammable, 220 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,280 combustible materials 221 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,000 um 222 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,600 would require an operational permit, so 223 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,200 it's already kind of in there. 224 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,800 Um we just believe that anything over 225 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,280 150 gallons wouldn't be needed in a 226 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,000 residential use and should be kept to 227 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,840 industrial or commercial zones. 228 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,800 Um so, we've added it in the home 229 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,000 occupation code and then in each 230 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,120 residential zone in the use table, we've 231 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,360 spelled out fuel tanks over 150 gallons 232 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,160 is not permitted. 233 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:58,080 So, your job today is to 234 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,960 make a motion to 235 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,520 recommend positively or negatively to 236 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,200 the city council the code amendment 237 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,120 to prevent fuel tanks over 150 gallons 238 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,400 in residential zones. 239 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:13,875 >> Okay. Thank you, Aspen. 240 00:08:13,875 --> 00:08:14,640 >> [clears throat] 241 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,040 >> Um since we do have a public hearing 242 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,400 tonight, let's proceed with the public 243 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,360 hearing now on this agenda item. So, I 244 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,520 will open the public hearing at 7:09 and 245 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,200 invite any comments if anyone would like 246 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:24,840 to comment on this proposed code 247 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:30,590 amendment. 248 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:31,720 Please state your name for us for the 249 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,479 record. 250 00:08:33,479 --> 00:08:35,360 >> Yes, of course. My name is Jacob 251 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,400 Frazier. I'm a 252 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,200 resident here in Santaquin. 253 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,520 Um yeah, I have a couple thoughts and 254 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,719 comments on this proposed 255 00:08:43,719 --> 00:08:45,760 change. Um 256 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,360 first off, you know, I I do question why 257 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,720 150 gallons when most tanks 258 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,120 sold for like agriculture use 259 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,800 typically minimums are like 500 gallons. 260 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,880 And if you go around our town, many 261 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,080 households and old farms and stuff 262 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,680 already have these large quantity tanks 263 00:09:04,680 --> 00:09:06,520 on their properties and are using them 264 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,920 for various uses, whether it's 265 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,480 continual agriculture use or whatever 266 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:12,560 might be. 267 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:15,200 And so, proposing something like this 268 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,200 makes it now illegal for them to have 269 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:18,920 these tanks that they've already had for 270 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,520 who knows how long. 271 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,240 And then the other um concern is 272 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,720 or point I'd like to address is 273 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:26,800 um 274 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,400 I totally agree with the 275 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,880 use of large quantities for 276 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,640 commercial properties and things of that 277 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,200 nature. Like, we don't necessarily need 278 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:37,960 someone trying to have 279 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,720 tons of flammable fuels in someone's 280 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,720 neighborhood, right? However, I do 281 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,400 question, again, why did we come up with 282 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,080 a number like 150? You know, what 283 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,880 purpose does that serve? 284 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,960 You know, 285 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,240 instead of just saying no, what are we 286 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,440 doing about 287 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,200 making something happen for if someone, 288 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,080 like for example, is in a residential 289 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,280 commercial 290 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:00,720 based on the wording, this would still 291 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,280 affect all residential zones, right? And 292 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:04,680 that still falls under residential 293 00:10:04,680 --> 00:10:06,720 commercial or sorry, residential 294 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,600 agriculture. A lot of these guys might 295 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,480 still be using old tanks or other 296 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,280 things, and there's a lot of regulations 297 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,760 that, you know, you have to follow with 298 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,440 uh containment and and things of that 299 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:17,440 nature that these guys are already 300 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,520 following, but now they can't if you 301 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,320 reduce their quantity. 302 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:22,480 Um 303 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:23,600 so I just I think there's some things 304 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,200 that maybe not have been thought of or 305 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:27,440 maybe they have, and I just haven't 306 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:28,560 heard them yet, and that's why we're 307 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:29,560 here. 308 00:10:29,560 --> 00:10:33,080 Um another thought to it, too, is 309 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,120 um 310 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,920 I guess 311 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,560 what danger are we trying to prevent 312 00:10:39,560 --> 00:10:41,880 with this code, right? Is there 313 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:43,800 an event that happened? Is there 314 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,480 something that happened that, hey, we 315 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,440 need to try to prevent this? Or are we 316 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,400 just trying to make another policy to 317 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,080 prevent future 318 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:52,640 decisions or actions from other people, 319 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,480 right? Like, why are we burdening 320 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,280 another code 321 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,080 if there's no need yet? And if there's a 322 00:10:58,080 --> 00:10:59,240 need, I'd love to hear it. I'd love to 323 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,080 understand what's happened, what's going 324 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,240 on, so I can be educated as well. So, 325 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:05,560 those are just some of my thoughts, and 326 00:11:05,560 --> 00:11:07,280 I'd love to hear from you guys. Thank 327 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,560 you. All right, thank you, Mr. Frazier. 328 00:11:09,560 --> 00:11:11,320 Any other comments on this proposed code 329 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,270 amendment? 330 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,120 Okay, we will close the public hearing 331 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,280 at 7:12, and we can move into 332 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:19,680 discussion. 333 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:20,880 Commissioners' thoughts on this code 334 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,950 amendment? 335 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:26,400 I had a similar question to Mr. Frazier. 336 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,200 I was just um wondering where the 150 337 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:29,839 gallons came from, and if there's any 338 00:11:29,839 --> 00:11:31,600 context about why the change is being 339 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:32,960 proposed. 340 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:33,320 >> That 341 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,560 >> that's a great question. Um So, when we 342 00:11:35,560 --> 00:11:37,600 had talked with our fire marshal and our 343 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,360 public works director, 344 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,640 we were looking at really more of kind 345 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,880 of a home occupation standpoint. So, if 346 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,360 you have a home occupation, typically 347 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:46,760 that's going to be for like your home 348 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,840 offices or things that you do kind of 349 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,400 directly within the home that have low 350 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,720 impact. It could also accommodate things 351 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,920 where you have like some customers. The 352 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,400 idea was that we wanted to keep fueling 353 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,720 operations located within the commercial 354 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,240 districts cuz we do have a fueling 355 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,600 station use that that's allowed within I 356 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,720 believe the C1. 357 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,280 district. 358 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:11,400 And so, 359 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,320 we wanted to make sure that like things 360 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,720 that could potentially have impact, 361 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,040 you know, something with fuel. If you 362 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:18,720 have a lot of fuel and it ignites and 363 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:19,800 you're and you're close to your 364 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,160 neighbors, 365 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:22,520 then you could have, you know, some 366 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:23,680 really 367 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:26,080 some some really significant impacts. 368 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:27,400 And so, in talking with our public works 369 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,400 director and our fire 370 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,120 chief, their recommendation was 371 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:33,760 we kind of looked at 100. They said bump 372 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,920 it up to 150 cuz 150 373 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:38,680 could be something that's more standard 374 00:12:38,680 --> 00:12:40,640 that could accommodate someone from a 375 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,080 residential standpoint. If you have dirt 376 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:43,320 bikes and four-wheelers and 377 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,760 side-by-sides or if you have some 378 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,320 equipment that you use on your property. 379 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,480 So, the idea was that 380 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,560 for your personal use up to 150, they 381 00:12:53,560 --> 00:12:55,640 felt like that was a safe amount to have 382 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,440 stored and 383 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:58,960 something I would be associated with a 384 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,560 home occupation. So, if you have a truck 385 00:13:00,560 --> 00:13:02,320 that you use in your home occupation, 386 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:03,720 then you'd be able to 387 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,000 fuel that, but keeping it so that there 388 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,440 was kind of a threshold 389 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,080 that if you were above that, then really 390 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:11,520 you should be in a commercial zoning 391 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,080 category 392 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,520 because it should be regulated at a 393 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,120 higher level. So, that was the point was 394 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,160 from a residential standpoint keeping it 395 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,000 kind of lower especially with the home 396 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,240 occupations and moving kind of fueling 397 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:30,400 operations, um, those within like the C1 district. 398 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,600 >> Okay, that makes sense. Thank you. 399 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,800 Can you speak to what, um, 400 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:36,920 Mr. Frazier talked about with the 401 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,240 500-gallon non-at-residential 402 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:40,640 agriculture? Do you know anything about 403 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,200 anything like that or 404 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,240 >> Um, I mean, it that that is something if 405 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,240 you like it that this isn't a code that 406 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,320 has to be approved today. We're we're 407 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:50,960 bringing it forward in a public hearing. 408 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,600 We believe it's ready, but if this is 409 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,640 something you would like us to dig into, 410 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,480 um, what further, we're we're happy to 411 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:01,200 do so. Um, we don't want to impact the farmers in in in our community. And 412 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:02,760 so, if, um, 413 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,280 you know, if you feel like we need to 414 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:08,040 have more of a delicate touch kind of in that regard. Our point with 415 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,920 this was to make sure make make so that 416 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,040 someone just running a home occupation 417 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,240 wasn't running a a fueling operation and 418 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:16,720 having people like pull into a 419 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,120 residential neighborhood filling up like 420 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:20,640 their their truck or landscaping 421 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,560 equipment and pulling out. I mean, that 422 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:23,720 and um 423 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,560 you know, if if it's not something like 424 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:26,760 that's not done right, you could really 425 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,600 impact your your your your neighbors on 426 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,560 either side. And so, that was kind of 427 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,680 where we decided that, you know, 150 428 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,200 felt like a safe amount. Our fire 429 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,520 marshal our fire chief felt comfortable 430 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:37,760 with that. Public Works Director felt 431 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,760 comfortable with that. Um, but yeah, 432 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,200 we're our intent is definitely not to 433 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,680 impact our our farmers and, um, the 434 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,360 folks running the orchards. We want to, 435 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:50,160 you know, make sure that they have what what they need. And so, um, 436 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:51,960 yeah, that and I'm not sure if that 437 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,400 would necessarily impact it. Do you want 438 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:54,520 to add to this? 439 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,040 >> We didn't deny the use in an 440 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,280 agricultural zone. 441 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,480 So, it would still be permitted for 442 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:01,760 their equipment. 443 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,800 >> What about residential ag? 444 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,200 >> We didn't include it in there. 445 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:05,680 >> Okay. 446 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,839 >> Cuz they to be residential ag, you have 447 00:15:07,839 --> 00:15:10,640 to have at least 5 acres. So, 448 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,480 there's more regulations already within 449 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:13,000 that. 450 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,110 >> All right. 451 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,360 » I mean, the zones it does impact are R8, 452 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,800 R10, R12, R15, R20. 453 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,400 The residential commercial it only 454 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:25,920 applies to the residential not the 455 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,720 commercial aspect and then um 456 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,790 R43. 457 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:41,150 » Okay, thank you. 458 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:42,080 Do you feel like that covers the 459 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:42,960 concern? 460 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,510 >> I think so. 461 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,200 » All right, any other any other thoughts 462 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:51,110 or questions on this one? 463 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:52,880 » Instead of making it a non-permitted 464 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,720 use, could you change it to for those 465 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,040 people that have already they store 466 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,800 things there is there a possibility to 467 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,600 make it a conditional use per basis 468 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,000 compared to just taking it away all 469 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:09,590 completely in residential zones? 470 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,600 » Um you we could look at doing it as a 471 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,280 conditional use. 472 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:14,960 Um 473 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,360 conditional uses can be tricky and we're 474 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,960 trying to the state as a whole is trying 475 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,920 to move away from them. 476 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,480 Um 477 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,160 if we were to go that route, we'd have 478 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,000 to set specific conditions in the 479 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,720 conditional use permit. 480 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,720 Sure. 481 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,360 >> And you've probably I'm sure you've all 482 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,280 taken like the the training throughout 483 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,200 the years. But a a conditional use 484 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,000 permit I I do apologize I'm not trying 485 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,520 to like talk down to down to you. I know 486 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:41,720 you guys deal with this all the time. 487 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,760 But conditional use permits in Utah it's 488 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,080 different state by state. I worked in 489 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,680 Virginia and you you can actually deny a 490 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,040 conditional use permit. You don't need a 491 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,960 ton of uh you know, facts or data. In 492 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,600 Utah though, conditional use permit is 493 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,680 essentially a permitted use 494 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,760 where you can you can apply conditions. 495 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,720 Now, you can you can deny one if you can 496 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,600 prove that there's a detrimental impact 497 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,040 to the surrounding neighbor 498 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,240 neighborhoods or to your to your 499 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,400 neighbor that cannot be mitigated 500 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:07,920 through the implication of of 501 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,839 conditions. And so if you can add a 502 00:17:09,839 --> 00:17:11,920 condition that takes away the impact and 503 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,560 so that's why from I guess from a staff 504 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,199 standpoint we're always a little 505 00:17:15,199 --> 00:17:16,360 cautious about making something a 506 00:17:16,360 --> 00:17:18,280 conditional use cuz once it is, you 507 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,000 can't you can't really deny it. Um and 508 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,160 so like for instance with 509 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,760 Wild Thistle, great restaurant. So sorry 510 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,000 to use them as an example, but let's say 511 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,360 if you did want to deny that, you would 512 00:17:29,360 --> 00:17:31,160 have a really hard time cuz you would 513 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,840 need to prove through data that allowing 514 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,320 alcohol sales in the restaurant has a 515 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,120 detrimental impact that cannot be 516 00:17:38,120 --> 00:17:39,280 mitigated through the imposition of 517 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,480 conditions. And so that that that's why 518 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,360 I mean we can definitely look at that if 519 00:17:43,360 --> 00:17:46,000 you like us to or if you want us to to 520 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,480 cut a little little bit deeper or add 521 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:48,840 something to it, we can always come back 522 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,080 with the with with an amendment, but we 523 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,520 feel as written 524 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,280 it would address our concerns and it 525 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:55,800 wouldn't impact on our farming 526 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,000 community. 527 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,200 >> Those those zones that you listed, 528 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,920 that's only under 5 acres, right? 529 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,280 So it's it's basically the residential 530 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,960 areas that it that have 531 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,960 more of a high capacity of homes. 532 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:08,560 Is that correct? 533 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:09,600 >> Yeah. Yeah, that's a great that's a 534 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,720 great way of density is a lot higher. 535 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,230 Mhm. 536 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:15,440 » Yeah, good point. I think I feel good 537 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:16,720 with that how it's written. 538 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,080 Um especially I'm glad to hear that it 539 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,240 doesn't impact the agricultural zones as 540 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,600 is and so I think that addresses most of 541 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,280 the concerns. 542 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,000 >> I agree. I'll just for Mr. Fraser, if 543 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,040 you find that there are homes that are 544 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:31,920 in those zones that are impacted, please 545 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,040 bring it back to City Council when it's 546 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,920 approved when it's presented there so 547 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:35,960 that you can all understand that as 548 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:36,787 well. 549 00:18:36,787 --> 00:18:37,360 >> [clears throat] 550 00:18:37,360 --> 00:18:39,360 >> And we're we're happy to to to to meet 551 00:18:39,360 --> 00:18:41,160 with you, too, if you want to between 552 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,440 now and and City Council. If we we're 553 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,120 happy to dive into the code and meet 554 00:18:45,120 --> 00:18:46,280 with them if you if you want to run 555 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:47,240 through it with us. 556 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:48,480 >> I think I think the purpose here is not 557 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,400 to impact those who are using things 558 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:51,880 correctly, just to make sure that we're 559 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,920 not providing danger for those who are 560 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,520 in a higher density area. 561 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:57,840 >> Um to that point, if there was someone 562 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,440 who was operating today with a 563 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,120 500-gallon tank, 564 00:19:01,120 --> 00:19:03,120 um would they be subject to this new 565 00:19:03,120 --> 00:19:06,680 code if it were approved? 566 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,800 >> We have what's called um 567 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,560 lawful nonconforming uses. And so we we 568 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,920 would have to look at that. Typically 569 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,960 and another thing you've dealt with 570 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,680 probably a lot and you've been on the 571 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,400 planning commission. But essentially 572 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:20,960 something was allowed or there wasn't a 573 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,440 code that restricted it. If they can 574 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,920 prove that they lawfully had that use in 575 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:30,520 place before the code changed then they they could still continue. But if 576 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,280 it didn't meet fire code or building 577 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,000 code cuz those still apply regardless of 578 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,240 what we're doing here. Any storage of 579 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:38,640 fuel that I mean there are I don't I 580 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,400 can't tell you the exact code but there 581 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,280 are code sections that do apply to to 582 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,360 storing fuel and so if they didn't meet 583 00:19:44,360 --> 00:19:46,560 it then then they you know 584 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,400 they would have to upgrade regardless. 585 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,120 So but yeah if they had some something 586 00:19:52,120 --> 00:19:55,240 that approved larger storage of fuel 587 00:19:55,240 --> 00:20:00,000 then then it would be a lawful use that you know we wouldn't 588 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,800 come after them. 589 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,920 >> Okay, thank you. 590 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:04,880 All right commissioners any other 591 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,040 questions or concerns? 592 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:11,150 Seeing one ready to make a motion. 593 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,440 » I'll make a motion that we recommend 594 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,760 the change of code as outlined in the 595 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:16,800 document. 596 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,840 >> Okay, we have a motion to 597 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,120 forward a positive recommendation. Do we 598 00:20:20,120 --> 00:20:21,600 have a second? 599 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:22,360 >> I'll second that. 600 00:20:22,360 --> 00:20:24,400 >> Seconded by Commissioner Johnson. The 601 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,440 motion was by Commissioner Christopher. 602 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,560 Any further discussion? 603 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,880 Okay, let's vote. Commissioner Russell. 604 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:32,480 >> Yes. 605 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:33,320 >> Commissioner Christopher. 606 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:33,760 >> Yes. 607 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,000 >> Commissioner Wood. Yes. Commissioner 608 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:35,600 Johnson. 609 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:36,360 >> Yes. 610 00:20:36,360 --> 00:20:37,840 >> Okay, that is forwarded with a positive 611 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,840 recommendation and it is unanimous. 612 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,280 Thank you. 613 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,880 Okay, we can move on now to 614 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,680 agenda item number 615 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,160 two. 616 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,000 This is a another proposed code 617 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,320 amendment regarding permitting of 618 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,360 detached accessory dwelling units in all 619 00:20:55,360 --> 00:21:01,470 residential zones. 620 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,440 » Um this one's very simple because it's 621 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,640 coming from the state. 622 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,120 It's in state bill 284 623 00:21:09,120 --> 00:21:10,680 that was signed into law in March of 624 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,360 this year, which allows detached ADUs in 625 00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:15,800 all residential lots greater than 11,000 626 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,320 square feet. Um, currently we already 627 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,560 allow detached ADUs in most residential 628 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,440 zones. So, the zones that would be 629 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:28,080 affected are the R12, the R20, the 630 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,760 residential commercial, and residential 631 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:35,360 ag, and residential 43 zone. 632 00:21:35,360 --> 00:21:37,710 Um 633 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,960 Yeah, here 634 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:45,670 let me show you the zoning map. 635 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,440 And then, just like the last one, your 636 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,960 job is to forward a recommendation to 637 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,760 city council regarding the code 638 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,600 amendment. 639 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,960 But, like I said, it is state law, so we 640 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,680 will need to comply. 641 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:01,720 >> All right, thanks, Jasmine. 642 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:02,320 >> Mhm. 643 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,960 >> Okay, we have a public hearing on this 644 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,520 um agenda item as well, so we'll open 645 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,960 the public hearing at 7:23, and I'll 646 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,560 invite any comments if anyone would like 647 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:15,070 to comment on this agenda item. 648 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,000 Okay, if not, we will close the public 649 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,920 hearing at 7:23, 650 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:24,430 and we can move into discussion. 651 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,400 I think my only question, I mean, 652 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,440 obviously it's mandated by state code. I 653 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:29,680 was just um 654 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,920 it's sort of a tangent. Um, the state 655 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,480 requires the city to do moderate income 656 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,520 housing plans, and over the last several 657 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,200 years, this has been a tool the city has 658 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,120 used to comply with those requirements, 659 00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:42,520 but I know some of those requirements is 660 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,360 have changed, also. So, I was just 661 00:22:44,360 --> 00:22:47,520 curious how this will affect that going 662 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,720 forward. 663 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,960 >> Um, moderate income housing was on pause 664 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,800 for 2026. They did say that it is going 665 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,320 to start again in 2027. 666 00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,720 Um, because of this change, I would 667 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,200 assume that if we do comply with state 668 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,680 code, they're not going to count this 669 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,760 out of as a strategy. 670 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,680 Um they haven't released like officially 671 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,200 what the moderate income housing reports 672 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,840 are going to look like for 2027. So, 673 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,160 there could potentially be some 674 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,080 flexibility, but 675 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,560 they're still working that out. 676 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:19,880 >> Okay, thanks. Sorry, that question was 677 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,600 not related to this agenda item. 678 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,200 >> No, that's okay. It's something to keep 679 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,120 in mind cuz we will be back here for it. 680 00:23:26,120 --> 00:23:27,600 >> Yep, for sure. 681 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,910 Okay, commissioners, other questions? 682 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,360 » Does this address the parking that goes 683 00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:35,200 along with that or is that going to be 684 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,550 brought later with it? 685 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,040 » Can you explain further what you mean by 686 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,040 the parking? 687 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,880 >> Um anything over it was 600 or 650, you 688 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,000 have to 689 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,480 you can't require more than two parking 690 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,480 and then anything under 600, it's one 691 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:50,640 parking. Is is that going to be 692 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,760 addressed with that or 693 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,280 later on? 694 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,440 >> Um the parking requirements are already 695 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,320 addressed in the general like attached 696 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:05,080 accessory dwelling unit chapter. So, yeah. 697 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,040 >> So, the city's still allowed to 698 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,600 regulate those ADUs, but we have to we 699 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,160 have to allow them. 700 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,040 Is that right? Like we can still make 701 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,080 rules around how they're 702 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,600 um 703 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,720 deployed, but we have to allow them. 704 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,520 >> Yeah, so that it has to be a permitted 705 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,680 use. We can still create 706 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,760 regulations and stuff. Currently, Santa 707 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,000 Quin does not have a permit or license 708 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,920 for them. If you choose to construct a 709 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,680 detached ADU, then you obviously need a 710 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,480 building permit, but it's not like a 711 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,720 here's a license to rent out this unit, 712 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:39,720 if that makes sense. 713 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,720 >> It does, thanks. 714 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,360 Yeah, the same. So, the same codes that 715 00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:45,600 are in place, um we we would still 716 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,600 follow for ADU um development standards. 717 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,600 Um and then if we wanted to make changes 718 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,000 to those, we'd have to adhere to um the 719 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,000 state code requirements 720 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,920 um because they they do limit the amount 721 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,440 of parking that that that you can place. 722 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,320 But when I uh served in in Vineyard as 723 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,040 the plan planning director there, they 724 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,520 had 725 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,360 that's when we wrote our code. But I 726 00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:08,400 think it was only like we could only 727 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,680 require one additional parking stall 728 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,320 into what you would require for a home. 729 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,920 So it was very limited what we could do. 730 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,560 >> Yeah. 731 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:17,920 >> But they said they they took that one 732 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,640 out, too. The minimum parking requirements. 733 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:21,960 >> I remember that being a recent change 734 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,320 and I think it affected our code as 735 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:24,040 well, right? 736 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:24,800 >> Yeah, we did. 737 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,200 >> Yeah. 738 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:32,350 Right. 739 00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:36,070 » Okay. Yeah. 740 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,440 » Okay. 741 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,040 Anything else we need to discuss? 742 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,320 And if not, is anyone ready to make a 743 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,600 motion on this proposed code amendment? 744 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,360 >> I'll make a motion that we 745 00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:47,960 uh 746 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,480 recommend a positive recommendation for 747 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:51,840 permitting the detached accessory 748 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,200 dwelling units in all residential zones. 749 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,200 >> Okay, thank you. We have a motion by 750 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,360 Commissioner Christopher. Do we have a 751 00:25:56,360 --> 00:25:58,240 second? 752 00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,320 >> I'll second that. 753 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,080 >> Second by Commissioner Johnson. 754 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,560 Um any further discussion? 755 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,680 Okay, let's vote. Commissioner Johnson. 756 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:07,120 >> Yes. 757 00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:08,440 >> Commissioner Wood, yes. Commissioner 758 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:08,960 Christopher. 759 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:09,400 >> Yes. 760 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,160 >> Commissioner Russell. 761 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:10,840 >> Yes. 762 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,000 >> Okay, that's forwarded with a positive 763 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,760 recommendation and it is unanimous. 764 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,520 Very good, thank you. 765 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,720 Okay, that brings us to agenda item 766 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,800 number four. We need to approve the 767 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,040 minutes from our last meeting, which was 768 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,520 on June 9th, 2026. 769 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,040 Any discussion on those minutes before 770 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,480 we move ahead with approving them? 771 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,000 Okay, if not, would anyone like to make 772 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,560 a motion to approve? 773 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,280 >> I make a motion to approve. 774 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,360 >> Okay, we have a motion to approve by 775 00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:36,400 Commissioner Christopher. Do we have a 776 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,280 second? 777 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,400 >> I'll second that. 778 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,080 >> Uh second by Commissioner Russell. All 779 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,280 in favor? 780 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:42,280 >> Yes. 781 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,920 >> Anyone opposed? 782 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,360 Okay, those minutes are approved and it 783 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:47,560 is unanimous. 784 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:53,150 That brings us up to staff reports. 785 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,080 » We don't have 786 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,630 anything to report. 787 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:57,800 » All right, very good. That won't hurt 788 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:58,920 our feelings. 789 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,120 >> And I'll I'll just add one thing. We do 790 00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:01,760 have um and you're probably aware of 791 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,000 this, too. Um 792 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,640 we do have a budget for training. And so 793 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,080 I would say um we if you look at the 794 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,240 Utah APA conference, the fall uh um 795 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,120 the the fall conference, if if you could 796 00:27:14,120 --> 00:27:15,320 Google that, it it'll be a lot of 797 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,080 information. So if you do want to go to 798 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,520 that, we we have um allocated funds. And 799 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,560 also, if the if you do find something as 800 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,040 well that's land use, 801 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,480 you know, urban design, anything that's 802 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,640 kind of related to to uh your functions 803 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,000 on the planning commission, if you let 804 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,960 us know, too, if you would rather do do 805 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,400 something else, then um then we we we 806 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,000 can uh we can try and accommodate that. 807 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:36,880 But I just wanted to let you know from a 808 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,160 training training standpoint, definitely 809 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,480 they're phenomenal, really great 810 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:42,760 conferences. They put a lot of effort 811 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,000 into them, and it'll it'll teach you 812 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,840 just a just a ton of good and new 813 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:46,840 information. And that's where you get a 814 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,880 lot of the new state code stuff, too, um 815 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,520 coming down the line, so. 816 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,320 Yeah, feel free to to look at that if 817 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,400 you have an interest. Um so we still 818 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,160 have a ways, but starting to get kind of 819 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,760 a head count now that'll help us from a 820 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,960 budgetary standpoint. Thank you. 821 00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:01,880 >> Okay, cool. Thanks. 822 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,480 Okay, that brings us to the end. Um so I 823 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,040 would look for a motion to adjourn. 824 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,040 >> I I can make a motion to adjourn.