1 00:00:00,719 --> 00:00:13,090 I love it. [snorts] 2 00:00:13,100 --> 00:00:18,470 [music] 3 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:19,680 » Love it. 4 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,359 >> Welcome to the Santa Quinn Planning 5 00:00:21,359 --> 00:00:24,235 Commission meeting. 6 00:00:24,235 --> 00:00:26,710 [laughter] 7 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:31,509 » We should do that every time. 8 00:00:31,519 --> 00:00:35,910 Love it. Love it. 9 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,079 » All righty. We ready to go? 10 00:00:38,079 --> 00:00:39,120 >> All right. We'd like to welcome 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,760 everybody to our Santa Quinn Planning 12 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,280 Commission meeting on August 25th, 2026. 13 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,280 We would like to start with an 14 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,600 invocation or in inspirational thought. 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,039 Would anybody like to do that for us 16 00:00:51,039 --> 00:00:58,470 today? 17 00:00:58,480 --> 00:00:59,359 I have one. 18 00:00:59,359 --> 00:01:03,990 >> You have one? Okay. 19 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,600 » Yes, I have one. Just one second. Just 20 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:12,710 an inspirational thought. Um, 21 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,680 unfortunately, Dolly Parton passed away 22 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,759 today. I don't know if you guys heard 23 00:01:17,759 --> 00:01:19,280 that. 24 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:20,479 >> That's not really, but she's 25 00:01:20,479 --> 00:01:22,240 inspirational in many ways and she's 26 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,720 done a lot of development in her life. 27 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,759 She's built out Dollywood. she's done so 28 00:01:27,759 --> 00:01:29,439 much and so she's an inspiration to a 29 00:01:29,439 --> 00:01:32,720 lot of people. But um so I just wanted 30 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,439 to quote a quote from her 31 00:01:35,439 --> 00:01:40,870 and I'm trying to pull it up. 32 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:42,720 » It's amazing all the charity work that 33 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,520 she did that she didn't get a lot of 34 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,040 accolades for. 35 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,079 >> Yeah. Yeah. 36 00:01:50,079 --> 00:01:52,079 Um 37 00:01:52,079 --> 00:01:53,759 sorry I thought it was just right here 38 00:01:53,759 --> 00:01:57,600 and it's not. Um 39 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,119 it was something to the effect that um 40 00:02:01,119 --> 00:02:03,119 life can be hard but don't let it harden 41 00:02:03,119 --> 00:02:06,560 your heart and I think that can apply to 42 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,759 all aspects of life that can apply to 43 00:02:09,759 --> 00:02:12,080 that land development cities codes 44 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,040 politics especially um but it said let 45 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,000 the let it strengthen the muscles around 46 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,800 your heart not harden the heart itself 47 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,239 so 48 00:02:22,239 --> 00:02:24,000 >> there's my thought for the night 49 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,400 >> thank you very Would anyone like to lead 50 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,400 us in the pledge of allegiance? 51 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,606 >> I'll do that. 52 00:02:32,616 --> 00:02:33,680 [clears throat] 53 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,879 >> I aliance to the flag of the United 54 00:02:36,879 --> 00:02:39,680 States of America and to the republic 55 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,560 for which it stands. One nation under 56 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,360 God, indivisible, with liberty and 57 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:54,470 justice for all. 58 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,680 righty. Our agenda for tonight is uh 59 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,720 a public forum. Then we'll have a 60 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,920 discussion and possible action 61 00:03:03,920 --> 00:03:07,200 um on the following. A public hearing 62 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,319 and action regarding restricting bulk fuel storage in 63 00:03:10,319 --> 00:03:12,640 residential zones and then we'll approve 64 00:03:12,640 --> 00:03:16,959 our meeting minutes for July 28th. 65 00:03:16,959 --> 00:03:18,480 Do we have anything else that we need to 66 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:23,110 add to that agenda or can we 67 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,040 » Did you have something to add to the 68 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,000 agenda? 69 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,840 >> Yeah, everybody's good with the agenda 70 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:28,879 the way it is. 71 00:03:28,879 --> 00:03:29,599 >> Mhm. 72 00:03:29,599 --> 00:03:31,920 >> Okay. All right. We'll begin with our 73 00:03:31,920 --> 00:03:37,509 public forum at 7:04. 74 00:03:37,519 --> 00:03:41,750 Anybody want to say anything? 75 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,640 Hold the crowds back. 76 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,440 All right, we will end our public forum 77 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,319 at 7:04. And now we'd like to start our 78 00:03:50,319 --> 00:03:52,720 discussion on Oh, I guess we have to 79 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,120 have the public hearing first. 80 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,280 We'll start our public hearing for um 81 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,360 item number one, action regarding 82 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:00,879 restricting bulk fuel storage in 83 00:04:00,879 --> 00:04:03,760 residential zones. 84 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,599 Anybody want to comment on that? 85 00:04:07,599 --> 00:04:09,920 >> Great. Thanks so much. If if you'd like, 86 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,159 I'm happy just to um go through an 87 00:04:12,159 --> 00:04:20,160 amendment. You probably recognize the um the item we talked about um 88 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,160 prohibiting the storage of um fuel 150 89 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,320 gallons or more residential districts. 90 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,880 So, this is one of those it's been um 91 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,400 you know, it went through the planning 92 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,080 commission under recommendation of 93 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,040 approval and then um you know, in 94 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:36,800 speaking kind of with the the the 95 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,600 leadership being the city manager um the 96 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,199 assistant city manager and the city 97 00:04:41,199 --> 00:04:43,600 attorney um they felt like we needed to 98 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,759 make um a few more changes. How it was 99 00:04:45,759 --> 00:04:48,000 written before, it was more of kind of a 100 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,000 standard where it was restricted under 101 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,639 the table, no more than 150 gallons. 102 00:04:52,639 --> 00:04:56,960 what the um city uh attorney um and uh 103 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:58,960 and Jason really felt that it should be 104 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:00,960 turned more into a use and so we created 105 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,000 a bulk fuel storage use and so that's 106 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,960 what was put in uh in the table and 107 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,840 actually today so u as far as that goes 108 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:11,919 there's a definition it's pretty simple 109 00:05:11,919 --> 00:05:13,520 that that we provided if you look at the 110 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,479 amendments and then under um each of the 111 00:05:16,479 --> 00:05:18,240 tables for the residential districts 112 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,560 it's a use bulk fuel storage and then 113 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,360 it's a non-permitted use or a prohib I'm 114 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,479 sorry a non yeah a non-permitted use or 115 00:05:26,479 --> 00:05:34,800 prohibited use. Um so in talking with um with with with the city manager um he 116 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,680 felt that um we needed to go a little 117 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,120 bit further because there are some 118 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,600 properties that are zoned residential 119 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,600 but are actually historically used 120 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,440 agriculturally. And he said how it's 121 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,680 written right now um potentially it 122 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,199 could impact those operations. And so 123 00:05:51,199 --> 00:05:52,560 even though like we feel like how the 124 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,520 code's written, it it it won't disrupt 125 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,560 that agricultural use, but he wanted to 126 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,479 ensure that it was crystal clear in the 127 00:06:00,479 --> 00:06:02,160 code. And so today, I've been kind of 128 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,080 going back and forth, city manager and 129 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,720 our city attorney. Um and so I have a 130 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,919 few amendments. Um, so if you do 131 00:06:09,919 --> 00:06:13,600 recommend a positive um 132 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,240 recommendation to the the city council, 133 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,039 we'd like it to be with the 134 00:06:19,039 --> 00:06:21,440 consideration of some some new language. 135 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,240 And so this is the staff report that you 136 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:29,440 received. Um, and the blue is what was 137 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,520 in the staff report. The red is what was 138 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,280 added working with the attorney and the 139 00:06:33,280 --> 00:06:37,520 city manager today. Um, so we have a a 140 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,840 few spaces where where it was provided 141 00:06:39,840 --> 00:06:43,430 and so the 142 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,280 yeah the definition I can pull we pull 143 00:06:45,280 --> 00:06:47,840 up the definition. So we do uh because 144 00:06:47,840 --> 00:06:50,880 first let me pull up the definition for 145 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,520 bulk fuel storage. 146 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,600 Let's see where do we place that? 147 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,759 That's under the ordinance. Just one 148 00:06:59,759 --> 00:07:11,830 second. 149 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,880 Okay. So this is the definition. So this 150 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,479 was the or the the definition that was 151 00:07:16,479 --> 00:07:18,319 provided in your packet. So it's bulk 152 00:07:18,319 --> 00:07:20,319 fuel storage of gasoline used fuel, 153 00:07:20,319 --> 00:07:23,599 kerosene or other liquid fuel in one or 154 00:07:23,599 --> 00:07:25,039 more tanks or containers having a 155 00:07:25,039 --> 00:07:27,039 combined capacity greater than 150 156 00:07:27,039 --> 00:07:29,440 gallons on a single parcel. Bulk fuel 157 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,520 storage does not include fuel contained 158 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,080 within the factoryinstalled tank of an 159 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,800 operable motor vehicle or or equipment. 160 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,639 And so it's um essentially if you have 161 00:07:40,639 --> 00:07:42,479 um storage of fuel, it's going to cap it 162 00:07:42,479 --> 00:07:47,120 on 150 gallons. It's the same um ba 163 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,919 basic impact that that it had in the 164 00:07:49,919 --> 00:07:52,240 last code. It just clarifies it and it 165 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,000 makes it as as a use. So that's the 166 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,319 definition. 167 00:07:56,319 --> 00:08:01,110 And then 168 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,680 this document, 169 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,759 yeah, this word document, this is the staff report, but then we added in 170 00:08:07,759 --> 00:08:10,240 the red to really ensure and make it 171 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:14,479 crystal clear that it um will not impact 172 00:08:14,479 --> 00:08:17,120 currently operating agricultural 173 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,560 businesses that are in residential 174 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,599 districts. So the first um is the home 175 00:08:21,599 --> 00:08:23,759 occupation section. So the home 176 00:08:23,759 --> 00:08:25,680 occupation section just under the the 177 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:30,479 prohibited um uses under that code we 178 00:08:30,479 --> 00:08:33,120 had simply just bulk fuel storage. Now 179 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:34,240 we provide a little bit more 180 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,959 clarification except so it's bulk fuel 181 00:08:36,959 --> 00:08:38,800 storage except when accessory and 182 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,560 incidental to a lawfully established 183 00:08:40,560 --> 00:08:42,479 agricultural operation conducted on 184 00:08:42,479 --> 00:08:44,880 residentially zoned property. Fuels 185 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,480 stored under this exception shall be 186 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,560 used solely to support the agricultural 187 00:08:48,560 --> 00:08:50,560 operation. It should not be sold or 188 00:08:50,560 --> 00:08:54,320 dispensed for any unrelated purpose. So 189 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,519 just making it clear, we're not going to 190 00:08:57,519 --> 00:08:59,839 have an impact to our agricultural u 191 00:08:59,839 --> 00:09:02,000 businesses. And then under the use 192 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,480 table. So this is um the language that 193 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,640 we'll then put throughout all the 194 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,880 residential uh tables, but we just had 195 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,519 time to put it in this as an example in 196 00:09:13,519 --> 00:09:16,240 the staff report. So if approved, we 197 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,399 would then duplicate this in the rest of 198 00:09:18,399 --> 00:09:21,839 those residential um use tables. So the 199 00:09:21,839 --> 00:09:24,560 first one is the bulk fuel storage. Um 200 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:27,120 and so accept agricultural bulk fuel 201 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,160 storage as provided below. And so that's 202 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:31,440 where we have the N. It's a 203 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,920 non-permitted use for residential. But 204 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,720 below that is the carve out for 205 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,120 agricultural uses in residentially zoned 206 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:40,800 properties. So bulk fuel storage 207 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,760 agricultural um bulk fuel storage that 208 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,480 is accessory and incidental to lawfully 209 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,320 establish agricultural operation 210 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,800 conducted on the property. Fuel stored 211 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,160 under this provision shall be used 212 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,000 solely to operate vehicles, machinery 213 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,920 and equipment used in that agricultural 214 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,920 operation. and it shall not be offered 215 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,720 for sale distribution for use outside of 216 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,080 the agricult agricultural operation. All 217 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,080 storage shall comply with applicable 218 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:07,680 fire building and environmental 219 00:10:07,680 --> 00:10:11,040 standards. So even an agricultural use, 220 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,120 if there's large amounts of fuel, they 221 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:14,640 still have to meet building code for for 222 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,800 safety and whatnot. But that's the 223 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,880 provision that would um kind of 224 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,440 safeguard our agricultural uses. So 225 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,200 should have the same impact. just makes 226 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,240 it really crystal clear and uh you know 227 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,320 should meet kind of what our city 228 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,040 manager and our um city city attorney 229 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,040 want in terms of just making sure that 230 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,360 our agriculture uses are safeguarded 231 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,279 while still providing kind of the public 232 00:10:37,279 --> 00:10:39,680 safety feature for our home occupation 233 00:10:39,680 --> 00:10:41,360 so we're not having large amounts of 234 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,839 fuel associated with with just a general 235 00:10:43,839 --> 00:10:45,600 home occupation. 236 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,560 Um and that is is everything from staff. 237 00:10:48,560 --> 00:10:50,240 So the red hopefully that's clear the 238 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,320 red is what was added today. The blue is 239 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,839 what was in your staff report. 240 00:10:55,839 --> 00:11:01,670 Happy to entertain any questions. 241 00:11:01,680 --> 00:11:03,360 » Lots of questions. Anybody else have 242 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,440 lots of questions? 243 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,600 >> All right. Do we allow propane tanks for 244 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,680 houses in the city? 245 00:11:09,680 --> 00:11:14,959 >> Um, this wouldn't affect anything with propane tanks that are under the 246 00:11:14,959 --> 00:11:18,560 150 um gallon, 247 00:11:18,560 --> 00:11:19,600 >> right? So, 248 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,240 >> but what if I had a 250gallon tank? 249 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,320 >> So, if you had one that was already 250 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,640 established and and approved through the 251 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,279 building permit process, then this this 252 00:11:29,279 --> 00:11:30,720 wouldn't affect anything that's already 253 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,839 established. But, um, 254 00:11:33,839 --> 00:11:37,120 yeah, this would affect something 150 255 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:38,640 gallons or more. 256 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,600 >> Okay. What about fuel oil? Like if 257 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,279 somebody had a wanted to build a hotel 258 00:11:43,279 --> 00:11:46,079 and run it on a heat it with fuel oil, 259 00:11:46,079 --> 00:11:47,760 this would affect them also, right? for 260 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,120 a you say hotel, 261 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:49,920 >> right? 262 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,839 >> Um, so this would only impact 263 00:11:51,839 --> 00:11:52,880 residential. 264 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,600 >> Okay. What if it was like an apartment 265 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,760 building that wanted to run on fuel oil 266 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,920 and heat for heating the apartment? I 267 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:02,800 know that's antiquated stuff. I'm just 268 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,160 >> bringing up questions that came to my 269 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:04,480 mind. 270 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,000 >> Right. Right. from a commercial 271 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,720 standpoint. So, if um um this wouldn't 272 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,639 impact a a a commercial use, this is um 273 00:12:12,639 --> 00:12:15,839 specifically written um to target just 274 00:12:15,839 --> 00:12:18,480 residential zones. Um and so any of 275 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,399 those residential, the R8, I think the 276 00:12:20,399 --> 00:12:24,639 R10, the R15, it would impact those. So 277 00:12:24,639 --> 00:12:26,240 the idea is like your tra traditional 278 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,519 single family um you know having large 279 00:12:29,519 --> 00:12:33,279 amounts of of uh storage of fuel like 280 00:12:33,279 --> 00:12:35,040 inside inside the garage that that 281 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:36,480 that's where it would it would it would 282 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,240 have an impact. 283 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:38,720 >> Okay. 284 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,720 >> The fire department already has like a 285 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,079 permit that you have to go through if 286 00:12:42,079 --> 00:12:45,120 you wanted [clears throat] so they would 287 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:46,720 be involved in a situation like that if 288 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:47,680 it came up. 289 00:12:47,680 --> 00:12:50,720 >> Okay. So a lot of people in this area, 290 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,800 not everybody, but a lot of people would 291 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,880 subscribe to the fact that they would 292 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:59,360 are trying to u be self-reliant. 293 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,120 And so to be self-reliant, a lot of 294 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,720 times they will store some things up and 295 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,519 that would may include fuel. Wouldn't it 296 00:13:07,519 --> 00:13:10,399 be better to go through a permitting 297 00:13:10,399 --> 00:13:13,839 process and a process of safety 298 00:13:13,839 --> 00:13:16,000 regulation instead of just outright 299 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,079 banning it? 300 00:13:18,079 --> 00:13:21,360 Um, so it it it really depends on on on 301 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:22,959 what the process was. So when we went 302 00:13:22,959 --> 00:13:24,800 through um we met with like our public 303 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,240 works and our our fire official and they 304 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,639 felt like the 150 galon would still 305 00:13:30,639 --> 00:13:33,839 provide um folks enough enough storage 306 00:13:33,839 --> 00:13:35,760 if they had four-wheelers and things of 307 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,600 that nature on site for a residential 308 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,399 use. what our concern is and and we we 309 00:13:40,399 --> 00:13:43,040 had um we have received requests for 310 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,000 this in the past, but folks that want to 311 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,800 sell fuel as a home occupation. And so 312 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:53,200 that that that that is a use that that we have seen and that um has been 313 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,519 requested in the past. And so that that is of of concern because it's kind 314 00:13:57,519 --> 00:14:01,279 of making a potentially like a a a gas 315 00:14:01,279 --> 00:14:03,360 station in in a residential district, 316 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,120 but you know, not not official gas 317 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,600 station, but we we didn't we didn't want 318 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,480 um to to blur lines like we we felt like 319 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,040 that was a good use that we wanted to 320 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,880 take out of the the home occupation 321 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,720 section. 322 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,160 So that's that's 323 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,639 >> I would agree with with that in in 324 00:14:20,639 --> 00:14:23,120 saying you cannot sell fuel out of a 325 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:24,800 household or a 326 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,600 >> or a domestic dwelling if you want to 327 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,199 put it that way. But to limit people and 328 00:14:31,199 --> 00:14:34,000 take away their choice to be able to 329 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,839 store enough fuel for themselves and 330 00:14:35,839 --> 00:14:40,399 their family in case of an emergency 331 00:14:40,399 --> 00:14:43,920 I think is a negative. 332 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,680 So, and I can see where we'd want to do 333 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,680 it safely. 334 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:52,230 Um, 335 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,560 I I I don't like the way it's worded 336 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,399 personally. So, I 337 00:14:58,399 --> 00:14:58,800 And I 338 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:04,000 >> Do Do you feel that um I mean, is there a number of of gallons or a 339 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,279 circumstance in which you feel like um 340 00:15:07,279 --> 00:15:10,160 it it it could it could be allowed? 341 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,120 Well, one, we I think this is being 342 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,199 driven by safety. 343 00:15:15,199 --> 00:15:16,800 So, I think we need to come up with a 344 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,440 way to put some regulation around it 345 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,959 where it's safe. But, 346 00:15:22,959 --> 00:15:25,360 you know, uh, having moved here from 347 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,320 Missouri, there are a lot of, um, towns 348 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,160 where the outskirts of town, people will 349 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:37,120 have a, you know, a 1500 gallon propane tank so that they can make it 350 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,519 through the entire year if they need to. 351 00:15:39,519 --> 00:15:40,959 And I would think we'd want to provide 352 00:15:40,959 --> 00:15:43,680 our citizens the same option here to be 353 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,920 able to have something like that if if 354 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,639 they so choose. I'm not saying everybody 355 00:15:48,639 --> 00:15:51,279 wants that, but taking away someone's 356 00:15:51,279 --> 00:15:53,759 freedom of choice is something that I 357 00:15:53,759 --> 00:15:56,959 don't like. Saying, "Hey, 358 00:15:56,959 --> 00:15:59,360 we want you to be safe in our community, 359 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,360 I think that's reasonable, but just 360 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,399 taking the choice away, I I don't agree 361 00:16:04,399 --> 00:16:05,920 with." And maybe I'm looking at it 362 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,920 wrong. if anybody, 363 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,079 you know, I'm just these are all 364 00:16:10,079 --> 00:16:11,680 thoughts that came to my mind as I was 365 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,600 reading through the agenda packet for 366 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,920 tonight. And so, um, 367 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,320 I I don't want my neighbor to improperly 368 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:21,920 store, 369 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,079 you know, 500 gallons of gasoline right 370 00:16:24,079 --> 00:16:26,320 next to my property, but I don't want to 371 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,079 take his right away to be able to do 372 00:16:28,079 --> 00:16:30,079 that if 373 00:16:30,079 --> 00:16:33,600 he's being safe about it. 374 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,920 So, 375 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:37,759 it's kind of a catch 22, I guess, is 376 00:16:37,759 --> 00:16:38,480 what I'm saying. 377 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:39,199 >> Yeah. 378 00:16:39,199 --> 00:16:41,279 >> So, I that that that's all I wanted to 379 00:16:41,279 --> 00:16:42,240 bring up about it. 380 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,800 >> I think you're saying it's okay to store 381 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,800 that much and they're saying they don't 382 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,199 want people to be distributing it and 383 00:16:49,199 --> 00:16:53,440 selling it and then it's like how much 384 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,600 it's kind of they're kind of mixing in a 385 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:56,560 way, right? 386 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,800 >> I And I Yeah, I think I think you're 387 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,160 right and that and that's that's a 388 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,079 really good point. I I think what I mean 389 00:17:02,079 --> 00:17:04,400 if the concern is just generally for 390 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,360 like the personal use um and that's like 391 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:11,520 when we talk to the fire department like that's what we're asking was what 392 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,919 from from like a a personal use like 393 00:17:13,919 --> 00:17:16,880 what what tends to be kind of kind of 394 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,480 like like the upper limit of what 395 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:23,039 someone if someone has a lot of ATVs and trucks just for the personal use and 396 00:17:23,039 --> 00:17:25,839 the the feeling was like 150 gallon is 397 00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:29,280 would get you u would get mo most people 398 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,600 what what what they needed. did. Um, but 399 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,080 going above that, like the the thought 400 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,880 was like then potentially you're you 401 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,320 might be getting into more of a 402 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,720 commercial capacity where someone could, 403 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,160 you know, be be using that for a 404 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,240 business or commercial purpose. 405 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:48,559 >> Um, one option to look at is instead of 406 00:17:48,559 --> 00:17:51,679 looking at just the the storage or like 407 00:17:51,679 --> 00:17:53,360 now it's more of like an umbrella, it's 408 00:17:53,360 --> 00:17:55,280 like the personal use and it's home 409 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,799 occupations. Um, we could start by just 410 00:17:58,799 --> 00:18:01,120 limiting it specifically to a home 411 00:18:01,120 --> 00:18:07,679 occupation as opposed to just the the general storage. Um, and so if 412 00:18:07,679 --> 00:18:09,360 that's a route that the planning 413 00:18:09,360 --> 00:18:10,960 commission feels more comfortable with, 414 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,039 we we could we could look at that that 415 00:18:13,039 --> 00:18:14,640 as well. Um, 416 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,240 >> it's already not allowed as a home 417 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,960 occupation. If you go to the home 418 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,039 occupation chapter, right above, it says 419 00:18:21,039 --> 00:18:25,200 that you can't have um chemicals and 420 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,200 different things above like household 421 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,679 quantities 422 00:18:29,679 --> 00:18:33,679 under the the home occupation section, 423 00:18:33,679 --> 00:18:36,160 >> right? H it talks about. 424 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:40,480 >> So what's driving this change? 425 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,799 >> Why why are we putting this forward? 426 00:18:42,799 --> 00:18:46,960 just to make it ve very clear that you you know because we we we do we have 427 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:52,160 had requests for um home occupations to sell fuel. 428 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,559 >> Well, we've also had requests not for 429 00:18:54,559 --> 00:18:57,840 home occupations too for really large 430 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,840 quantities that didn't necessarily have 431 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,760 to do with agricultural purposes. 432 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,960 >> Yeah. So, do we want to just make this 433 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,520 clear that in a home occupation that's 434 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,640 not allowed and then leave the the code 435 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,720 the same otherwise? I don't know if the 436 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,679 code already says 150 gallons. I'm I'm 437 00:19:15,679 --> 00:19:19,360 kind of shocked at that. But um 438 00:19:19,360 --> 00:19:21,120 >> doesn't currently say the 150 gallons. 439 00:19:21,120 --> 00:19:22,480 >> It does not currently. 440 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,240 >> Okay. 441 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,400 That that's what the definition of. Um 442 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,559 so it's a new definition bulk fuel 443 00:19:28,559 --> 00:19:31,039 storage and then it's defined as 150 444 00:19:31,039 --> 00:19:33,360 gallons or more. 445 00:19:33,360 --> 00:19:35,039 >> In the previous planning commission, 446 00:19:35,039 --> 00:19:37,200 there was a code amendment to talk about 447 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,520 the 150 gallons and it got a positive 448 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,039 recommendation. But before it went to 449 00:19:41,039 --> 00:19:43,679 city council, it's been rewritten as 450 00:19:43,679 --> 00:19:44,960 what you've seen tonight. 451 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,230 >> Yeah. 452 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,720 So I I think that's that's up for your 453 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,840 deliberation. Um if you like how it's 454 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,320 written right now, it would impact folks 455 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,280 that want to store above. Um so we I 456 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,120 mean like I said before, this was vetted 457 00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:03,120 through kind of our our fire department 458 00:20:03,120 --> 00:20:05,039 and and our public works and that we 459 00:20:05,039 --> 00:20:06,720 they felt like that that was a pretty 460 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,400 good upper limit of what someone would 461 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:09,440 want to store. Yeah, 462 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,760 >> it does does not impact the the tank 463 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,720 capacity so of your vehicle. And so that 464 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:20,000 would be in addition to um if you feel like that goes too far, you could 465 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,080 make it very specific to just the home 466 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,520 occupation use and just you know fuel 467 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,159 sales, you know, anything that that's 468 00:20:28,159 --> 00:20:30,000 stored above 150. I mean, we could 469 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,760 target that. I would think we we would 470 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:35,039 want to look at that maybe maybe a a 471 00:20:35,039 --> 00:20:36,799 little bit more and and and come come 472 00:20:36,799 --> 00:20:38,960 back to you if if that's if that was the 473 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,640 consensus of the planning commission. So 474 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,080 you have you have a lot of options you 475 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,440 could recommend as proposed tonight. You 476 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,000 could kick it back to staff with the 477 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,000 direction that you you want it to be 478 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,000 more narrowly focused on on home 479 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,360 occupations as opposed to to storage. 480 00:20:55,360 --> 00:20:58,720 Um, if if you do 481 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,360 if if there is a concern, well, I'm 482 00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:02,880 trying to think too, like if someone 483 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,840 does for a storage purpose for their own 484 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,200 personal needs, if they want to store 485 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,000 like 500 gallons of fuel, we probably 486 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,280 would want to talk to the the fire 487 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:14,640 marshall and see if there's a permit 488 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,080 process or something like that. 489 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,039 >> Yeah, totally. 490 00:21:17,039 --> 00:21:20,320 >> There there there is. Okay. 491 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,280 >> Under age. Yeah. So says any home 492 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,799 occupation which entails the use of 493 00:21:24,799 --> 00:21:27,919 chemicals exceeding typical household 494 00:21:27,919 --> 00:21:29,520 quantities, pesticides, and flammable 495 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,280 combustible materials, including any 496 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,200 other process or business where current 497 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:34,960 adopted building fire codes would 498 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,360 require an operational permit. 499 00:21:37,360 --> 00:21:39,120 >> So that's a that's a home occupation. 500 00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:40,400 What if somebody just wanted it for 501 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:41,120 their personal use? 502 00:21:41,120 --> 00:21:42,960 >> I think a home is the operational permit 503 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,400 the fire permit. Is that the name of the 504 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:44,880 fire permit? 505 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,320 >> The operational permit. They'd also have 506 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:47,760 to go through the fire marshall and get 507 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:48,320 that approved 508 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:49,840 >> if it was for personal use also. Yeah, 509 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,760 correct. That makes sense. I understand 510 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,200 that. Anybody else have any thoughts? 511 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,360 Sorry, I'm 512 00:21:57,360 --> 00:21:59,200 pestering everybody with this. 513 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,360 >> Has staff looked at um [clears throat] 514 00:22:01,360 --> 00:22:04,000 other cities around us the same size out 515 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,080 of state? Have we done extensive 516 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,120 research on what other cities our same 517 00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:13,520 size are doing compared to like um 518 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,000 Missouri or other places? you know, like 519 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,400 I just wonder if we have done enough of 520 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:19,840 our own due diligence of what other 521 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,799 cities the same size are doing the same. 522 00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:24,880 Well, 523 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,440 >> um, so we we haven't done a I I would 524 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,000 say like a big dive into what other 525 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,799 cities are doing. Um, because this um 526 00:22:32,799 --> 00:22:34,799 really kind of stemmed out of requests 527 00:22:34,799 --> 00:22:40,559 that we were receiving as staff from people in the community. Um, so we 528 00:22:40,559 --> 00:22:43,520 could um look at that if if you wanted 529 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,159 like we we'd be happy to to to look at 530 00:22:46,159 --> 00:22:48,159 what other Utah cities are doing. I 531 00:22:48,159 --> 00:22:49,840 mean, if there's something in Missouri, 532 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,280 too, we could look there, but probably 533 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,200 from a state code perspective, we'd want 534 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,960 to look at uh Utah communities. Um, but 535 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,720 I I would think I from just general, we 536 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,720 have researched a lot of home occupation 537 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,240 ordinances and I that's something I've 538 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,080 personally done a lot throughout my 539 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,480 career. Typically I you don't see fuel 540 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,400 sales out out of home occupations. So I 541 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,559 think we would be pretty in line if we 542 00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:14,880 just restricted that if if the 543 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,120 commission felt comfortable at least 544 00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:19,600 with that approach, you know, making it 545 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,360 very clear home occupations, you can't 546 00:23:21,360 --> 00:23:23,360 sell fuel, you can't have large 547 00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:27,039 quantities of fuel for your your home occupation. I I think that 548 00:23:27,039 --> 00:23:29,280 puts us in a in a pretty good uh spot, 549 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:30,720 at least kind of going with a starting 550 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,720 point. And then there's the operational 551 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,799 permit. It sounds like if someone wanted 552 00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:38,240 to have bulk fuel storage for um their 553 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,000 per personal use, then they they would 554 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,120 have to go through an operational 555 00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:42,480 permit, probably through the fire 556 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,400 department. 557 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,080 And we I I we could find out more 558 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,840 details of what the operational permit 559 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,039 is, but that that's that that's what my 560 00:23:51,039 --> 00:23:52,799 best guess is is that it would be 561 00:23:52,799 --> 00:23:56,080 through the the fire department. 562 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,440 >> There was a concern that came up last 563 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:58,559 time. I think you guys did a really good 564 00:23:58,559 --> 00:24:01,120 job of getting to the bottom of that one 565 00:24:01,120 --> 00:24:03,360 and and making that that not a concern 566 00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:05,760 anymore. But I do like this this new 567 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,360 direction of of limiting the commercial 568 00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:11,600 use while also having a permit for 569 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,120 personal storage. I think that's 570 00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:14,159 probably a better approach. 571 00:24:14,159 --> 00:24:17,430 >> Okay. 572 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,919 » So, if there's can we exclude propane 573 00:24:19,919 --> 00:24:21,919 tanks if somebody wanted to run their 574 00:24:21,919 --> 00:24:23,919 house on propane? 575 00:24:23,919 --> 00:24:25,600 Would we want to add an exclusion in 576 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,480 there for that? Um, yeah. Um, the plan 577 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:29,760 commission can make any recommendation 578 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,799 you'd like to the city council. What what we could do if you'd like, we 579 00:24:32,799 --> 00:24:34,159 could do some some research on the 580 00:24:34,159 --> 00:24:37,760 propane um um aspect specifically and 581 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,440 then come back with a draft that targets 582 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,240 just the home occupation and leaves out 583 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,799 more of the personal storage since the 584 00:24:46,799 --> 00:24:48,480 operational permit is already written 585 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,200 into H. But then we can talk with the 586 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,960 fire department and understand clearly 587 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,440 what the the the H operational permit 588 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,919 is. I I think that sounds like the a 589 00:24:57,919 --> 00:24:59,360 permit they would get through the fire 590 00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:00,960 department because it's chemical based. 591 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,000 It's it's flammable fuels. 592 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,320 >> So, we we could um we we we could do 593 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,720 that. So, if you if you wanted to pass a 594 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,200 motion to continue the item to the to 595 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,480 the next meeting, that'd give us some 596 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,039 time to to do some research and uh and 597 00:25:15,039 --> 00:25:17,360 come back to you 598 00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:20,000 if if that if that's the route. It seems 599 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,000 like from nodding heads that's kind of 600 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,360 the direction you want you want to go. 601 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:26,480 Any other discussion or 602 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,279 points to be made? 603 00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:30,960 All right. We'll be looking for a motion 604 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:35,669 on how to go forward with this. 605 00:25:35,679 --> 00:25:38,080 » I propose that we continue until the 606 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,520 next meeting and and and look at some 607 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,669 different language. 608 00:25:43,679 --> 00:25:45,520 » I'll second. 609 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:46,799 >> Okay. 610 00:25:46,799 --> 00:25:48,480 Um 611 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,880 we will continue 612 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,760 that discussion later and look to staff 613 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,600 to make recommendations that are more in 614 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:56,799 line with the discussion we've had 615 00:25:56,799 --> 00:25:58,000 tonight. 616 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,200 >> Yeah. And then um you just since you had 617 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,440 a second, I would just um call for a 618 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,520 vote. 619 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,760 >> Call for a vote on that. Yes. 620 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,080 >> We need to call for a vote on that. 621 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,840 >> All [laughter] 622 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,720 those that are in favor? 623 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:15,200 >> Yes. 624 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,080 Yes. 625 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,360 >> Yes. 626 00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:19,679 >> Any opposed? 627 00:26:19,679 --> 00:26:21,279 >> Okay, that's that's unanimous. Yeah. 628 00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:22,720 Well, we're happy to do that. That's 629 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,919 great. Great direction. Um and so we'll 630 00:26:25,919 --> 00:26:28,400 look at the um making it specific to 631 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,159 home occupations. We'll look at what the 632 00:26:30,159 --> 00:26:32,400 operational permit does for the storage 633 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,240 and then we'll look at the specificity 634 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,880 around um propane tanks and what what 635 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,240 other community communities do with 636 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:38,880 propane tanks. 637 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:39,520 >> Okay. 638 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:40,640 >> Yeah. 639 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,080 I would I would add also don't um have 640 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,279 it include what's in fuel tanks already 641 00:26:47,279 --> 00:26:51,039 like in trailers or or in vehicles. Were 642 00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:52,320 you saying that that might be included 643 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:52,799 in the 644 00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:54,880 >> No, it's not. So, under the definition, 645 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,679 it it calls out it it breaks that out. 646 00:26:57,679 --> 00:26:58,960 Yeah. If you have a if you have a tank 647 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,279 as part of your your vehicle, that 648 00:27:01,279 --> 00:27:04,000 doesn't um it's not part of the 649 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,520 >> Perfect. I wanted to I thought you said 650 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,200 it did and I'm like, let's let's take 651 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,200 that out. I was worried about that, too. 652 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,799 And I saw that it had a note in there if 653 00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:12,960 your vehicle has a tank in it, it 654 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:13,760 doesn't count that. 655 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,559 >> Okay, perfect. Or trailer, cuz some 656 00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:19,200 trailers hold fuel and stuff like that. 657 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:19,520 So, 658 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,559 >> yeah. Okay. Yeah, then we we we could uh 659 00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:24,720 we'll probably need to expand the 660 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,559 definition then 661 00:27:26,559 --> 00:27:27,919 >> for [snorts] 662 00:27:27,919 --> 00:27:29,679 >> under the TR. Does it have the trailer, 663 00:27:29,679 --> 00:27:31,600 too? 664 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,600 >> Well, we I'll I'll look at that and 665 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,000 we'll we'll make sure it takes that into 666 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,159 account. And one note in section two 667 00:27:38,159 --> 00:27:40,000 severability 668 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,880 uh it says impair of invalidate. I think 669 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,039 it's supposed to be or 670 00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:49,279 and and just 671 00:27:49,279 --> 00:27:50,640 >> I don't know if that's something that 672 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,279 got maybe I'm reading it wrong and maybe 673 00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:57,600 it needs to be of but um just in case 674 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,520 that got repeated through the document 675 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:08,870 somehow just so you guys know. 676 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,320 I apologize. Can Can you point that 677 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,080 section that that part out? 678 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:17,830 >> Yeah. Let's see. 679 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,120 Uh judgment third third sentence. 680 00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:24,080 Judgment shall not affect impair of 681 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,919 invalidate the remainder of this 682 00:28:25,919 --> 00:28:27,279 ordinance. I think it's supposed to be 683 00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:29,360 impair or invalidate. Okay. 684 00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:31,200 >> Just something that I saw when I was 685 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:36,070 reading through it tonight. 686 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,269 Uh 687 00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:40,960 okay. 688 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,760 Um next item up is meeting minutes 689 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:48,320 approval for July 28, 2026. 690 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:56,789 Do we have any corrections? 691 00:28:56,799 --> 00:28:58,320 » Do we need to make a motion for that? 692 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,080 >> Yep. A motion second. Would someone like 693 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,120 to motion the uh make a motion on those 694 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,279 meeting minutes? 695 00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:06,880 >> I'll make a motion to approve the 696 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,440 meeting. 697 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:10,720 >> I second. 698 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,279 >> All righty. All those in favor? 699 00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:14,640 >> Yes. 700 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,440 >> Any opposed? 701 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,000 Okay. 702 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,320 Um 703 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,919 staff reports. Do we need to discuss 704 00:29:23,919 --> 00:29:27,039 anything else? 705 00:29:27,039 --> 00:29:29,840 Um, we sent uh the planning commission 706 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,279 um for the fall conference. Just let us 707 00:29:31,279 --> 00:29:32,960 know if you'd like us to sign you up. Th 708 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,559 those are um usually pretty 709 00:29:34,559 --> 00:29:36,080 entertaining. They have everything from 710 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,200 park designs to transportation to just 711 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,279 general land use. 712 00:29:41,279 --> 00:29:42,559 A lot a lot of the issues that we're 713 00:29:42,559 --> 00:29:45,840 going to deal with u throughout this next year are going to be covered 714 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,360 in that in that conference. So, let us 715 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,840 know. We'd love to uh to get you signed 716 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,480 up. And um you know, in other cities 717 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,720 like if if commissioners were going, we just carpool. So, if you need a ride, 718 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,960 we we got you covered. But, um yeah, 719 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,640 just email I think Gwen sent it. So, 720 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,080 email Gwen and we'll make sure we get 721 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,360 those uh 722 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,399 >> I got the email go check my dates. 723 00:30:06,399 --> 00:30:07,679 >> Yeah, no problem. 724 00:30:07,679 --> 00:30:08,559 >> Yeah, thank you. 725 00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:09,120 >> Yep. 726 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,799 >> Anything else? 727 00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:14,710 >> That's it. 728 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,840 Oh. Um, yeah, if you can I'm h we're 729 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,120 happy you guys you guys showed up, but 730 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,919 yeah, if you let us know um as if you if 731 00:30:21,919 --> 00:30:24,320 you can't show up as soon as possible, 732 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,559 it it it helps us. I I don't think we've 733 00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:28,720 ever fallen below a quorum. So, we we've 734 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:29,679 been pretty good. I've been in other 735 00:30:29,679 --> 00:30:32,000 cities where where we did and it's 736 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,840 especially have applicants showing up. 737 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,080 So, the sooner we know the the better 738 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,960 helps us plan. So, just thank you for um 739 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,200 all all the work you guys do. Appreciate 740 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,630 it. 741 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,799 All right. Looking for a motion for the 742 00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:49,039 next item on our agenda. 743 00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:50,640 A motion 744 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:55,120 you I make a motion to adjurnn at 7:31.