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evening it is 6:30 members of council

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are assembled when you're ready to

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begin um thank you the mayor is away

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today so you get the deputy mayor to

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chair the meetings which could be fun um

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we'll see how it goes I'd like to call

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to order this meeting of the town of

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Sagi Shores Committee of the whole it's

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Monday November the 11th 6:30 and I'd

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like to welcome everybody into the

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chambers and um all those watching at

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home um there are a lot of people in the

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chambers it's nice when we have three

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delegations from Community groups that

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are so active um first order of business

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uh tonight because of it being

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Remembrance Day is we're going to take

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um a moment um for silent reflection

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this I'll call on councelor halin to uh

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read Our Land

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acknowledgement thank you mayor Deputy

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Mayor we acknowledge that we are meeting

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on the traditional lands and treaty

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territory of the soin of jibu nation

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which consists of the chipas of soin and

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the chipa was of Nash unseated First

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Nation we understand this land holds

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immense significance to the people of

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sing abjo Nation we appreciate those who

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live and work alongside us today and who

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continue the traditions of their

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ancestors as stewards of the land we are

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privileged to inhabit we thank them for

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the contributions that they have made in

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both caring for the land and shaping

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this community we commit to Truth and

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Reconciliation to acknowledging the

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truth about what happened to indigenous

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people because of

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colonization and to

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reconciliation which begins with each

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and every one of

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us on this Remembrance Day I would like

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to we should recognize all the people

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from San first nation that served in

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both world wars and it's worth noting

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that they really per capita exceeded

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commitment to fighting those

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Wars and we acknowledge that we respect

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that and appreciate

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that as a a local government and public

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organization we are dedicated to

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learning about indigenous culture to

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fostering a better relationship with

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First Nations and their people and we

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commit ourselves to actions that move us

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forward on a path to Healing along with

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a soling of jib Boy

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Nation thank you at this point I'll ask

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if there's any pecuniary interests that

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disclosed seeing none you can do that at

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any point during the meeting um if you

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need to we have no additions um or

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deletions or amendments to the agenda

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and there are no open Forum requests so

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we'll move on to our three delegations

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the first one is uh from the sagin

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memorial hospital foundation and it's a

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2024 Grand Fondo update um we're

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welcoming Graham Martin to the podium

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and Graham you have 10

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minutes you might need to turn on the

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microphone check looks like it's on uh

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terrific thank you very

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much that might not stay up for me uh so

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thank you for having me today uh my name

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is gram Martin I'm the executive

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director of the SOI Memorial Hospital

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Foundation uh I recently started in that

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position uh just in July of this last

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year uh so a couple of reasons for

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coming today one was to introduce myself

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um the second is to talk a little bit

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about Grand Fondo uh as well as our

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plans moving forward as well as to thank

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the town uh for how great you've been to

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work with uh around Grand Fondo and

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other initiatives that we've

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had we did uh hire somebody uh to help

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with the event Greg rosson from

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performance-driven events and uh as we

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had a chance to get to know him and chat

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uh he made a comment that for all of the

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events that he runs around Ontario uh

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that sogging Shores was one of the best

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places and most Cooperative groups to

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work with uh he asked that I highlight

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that he said it's not the same in every

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Township or or city that he works in uh

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he said that people here were just

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fantastic so I wanted to pass that along

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as a word of

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thanks um I guess people don't have this

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in front of them so I'll uh I'll read

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just a few stats from here uh we really

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have an expanding population and it

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brings increased demand for service as I

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know this group is well aware uh but

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speaking in terms of the hospital in the

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2023 2024 year uh we had

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17,9 185 emergency department visits

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9787 patient days uh almost 400,000 lab

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procedures over 9,000 Radiology

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procedures over 4,000 ultrasound

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procedures among other services and one

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cost that these Services is rising and

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the government typically when we're

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looking for new equipment pays less than

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10% of that and I think that was

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something coming into this role as much

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as I knew that fundraising was necessary

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how much fundraising is necessary uh to

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get the equipment that's needed uh and I

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think that's really highlighted when

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we're in a growing Community such as we

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are in terms of our grand Fondo event uh

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this year we had a great success we

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brought in about

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$420,000 and that was put toward

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purchasing new mography equipment

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resulting in a higher level of care for

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SOI Shores residents and this event was

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started in 2018

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and since that time it's raised 1.7

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million uh for healthc care so that's uh

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uh terrific and uh able to put that to

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our good use we're already in the

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planning stages for Grand Fondo

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2025 uh we're looking at the weekend of

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August 16th uh to help with our decision

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making we actually sent out a survey uh

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through a professional company we sent

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it out to participants uh as well as to

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local businesses just to get feedback

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about the things that were going well uh

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the things that we could improve upon uh

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so that we could make it the best event

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that we can in terms of participant

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surveys we had uh almost 300 writers

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that responded and I've just highlighted

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a few little pieces um 57% of the people

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who attended uh were described as

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tourists and that they lived more than

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40 kilometers away uh 87% said that

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they're very likely to return to the

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vent and it's estimated that Riders and

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their supporters spent approximately

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$768,000 at Grand Fondo uh that came

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through a number of areas uh anything

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from accommodations uh to food to

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shopping registration fees uh but a lot

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of people and a lot of money came into

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area um we also surveyed a little bit

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around days of the week uh that were

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preferred in terms of Saturday or Sunday

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Saturday event uh we did find that

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Riders overwhelmingly prefer the

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Saturday event um a few people said that

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they didn't have a preference but the

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majority preferred Saturday uh so even

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our planning uh we do anticipate that it

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Saturday in terms of the business survey

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businesses uh leading up to the Grand

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um I did go around to the businesses

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with a communication ahead of time uh

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letting them know the date the time what

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to expect those types of things um when

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we sent the survey around we didn't have

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a great response but we did have uh

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seven people who returned the survey uh

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and we really had a mixed bag we had

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some describe it as one of their best

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business days ever because of the influx

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of people uh we had others who described

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it as one of their worst business days

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ever uh because they didn't like the the

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downtown core being closed for the

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period of time that it

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was so I think moving forward uh and

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looking at the data from the surveys

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from the money that's been raised uh we

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feel that it's been a tremendously

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successful event uh it was named a top

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2024 event or pardon me a top 100 event

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in

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2024 uh and our intent is to continue to

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prioritize the grand Fondo as our

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Premier event uh we're always going to

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be looking for ways to improve um one of

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those areas will be around communication

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making sure that we're working with

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businesses and community members uh that

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so there aren't surprises and that we

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can uh put on a great event um I also

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want to acknowledge the business owners

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uh they've been supportive in lots of

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different ways uh I know this year we

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came around looking for prizes for a

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casino night that we had at the same

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time uh and they've been fantastic so we

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do want to work with them uh and we're

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hopeful that we can have a great grand

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Fondo event while at the same time uh be

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able to support businesses in our

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community so in terms of how the town

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can help I've just put a few little

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bullets here and again doing amazing

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things for us already so continuing that

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would be fantastic help us spread the

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word about our events uh share our posts

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on your local social media watch your

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mailbox for our fall and spring campaign

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letters uh participate donate or

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volunteer and uh we also request that

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Council again if possible wave the

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rental fee for a grand Fondo weekend so

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that all funds raised can be maximized

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and contributed to the

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hospital uh and I'll just put in one

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last plug we do have our radio thaon

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coming up it's Thursday December the

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12th 6:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. uh and it's

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it's traditionally been a great event

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for the hospital so anybody is welcome

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to drop by if you'd like to be on the

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radio uh 98 the Bruce we'd love to have

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you there as a guest and we're looking

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forward to another successful event

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thank you very

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much thank you Mr Martin there were a

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number of requests there which uh the

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normal procedure is that um they get

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referred over to staff and we we get

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information and a report at at a later

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date concerning that concerning the asks

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um however I'll open it up to members of

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council any comments or questions

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councelor

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Grace thank you Madame Deputy Mayor um

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thank you gram and everyone on your

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board and and volunteer staff who help

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put this on and all the work you do to

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fund raise we're really fortunate to

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have um our hospital um in our community

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and uh I appreciate everything you're

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doing to support that um I've just got a

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question I don't know if I missed it

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somehow but um you talked about your

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survey and there were 289 writers that

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responded how many writers did you have

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in total oh sorry I don't think I did

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include that we had roughly 800 writers

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okay great and do you know how many what

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percentage of those are from out of town

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we don't for sure we can only sort of

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Project based on the people who uh

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completed the survey and from from the

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survey company I understand a response

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rate for this type of thing was fairly

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High even though initially it does sound

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fairly low but if you projected out uh

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you'd be looking at probably 70 or 80%

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of people 40 kilometers or more away

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well the amount spent um that weekend

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that's incredible so thank you very much

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um for your for your work again and your

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presentation and we do have a great

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staff and a great team of volunteers and

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and great support around the community

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so thank you as

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well are there any other comments

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questions councelor

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divinski thank you acting mayor um I

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just wanted to put in dibs that I've

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already booked in 7:30 a.m. on the uh

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radiothon on December 12th I believe you

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said grahe uh 6:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. you

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know the routine get in there give us

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your money have something to eat get out

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okay no not at all but uh enjoy yourself

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and I will be there uh helping out

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during that time and also helping out

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financially thank you we appreciate that

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thank you very much and that also sounds

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like a little bit of a challenge or an

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opportunity uh to spread the words so

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thank you for heading that

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off seeing no other comments I'll just

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offer um a repeat of what councelor gra

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said thank you very much for what you do

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for the community and um we look forward

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to hearing more seeing more and talking

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more about this over the next couple of

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months great thank you very much our

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second delegation tonight is from the

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Sagen Rail Trail Association another

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very active uh local group it's their

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annual update and I'll ask Dela AI did I

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come close with your name to come to the

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microphone you have 10 minutes sir hi

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can you hear

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me it's de a

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but so thanks for having me this will be

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fairly brief um I'm the president of the

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so real Trail Association that simply

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means I had a bunch of uh volunteers who

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spend a lot of time maintaining the

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trails that we love in the neighborhood

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so uh thanks to those who are here and

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thanks to those who are not here um I

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have only three slides really

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highlighting how 2024 went and

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summarizing what we plan for them next

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year um the first thing i' like to say

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off comment is that thanks very much to

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uh Council here and the town staff for

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working with us since I've joined the uh

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rail trail um Association it's been a

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great relationship um and um long may

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that

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continue um in 2024 we so our the trails

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are connected to several different

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Trails so each year we pick sections

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that we Main maintain and depending on

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what's needed we maintain it with you

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know we buy rocks and gravel and stuff

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like that and then community members

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show up with their equipment and their

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time and then we do the work so in

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essence that's what we do so in 2024 we

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upgraded the surface area between uh the

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10th concession and Highway

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21 and then along various parts of the

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trail there were number of trees and

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shrubs planted and then all those things

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need to be maintained throughout the

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year so volunteers show up and water the

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plant and keep everything looking nice

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and fresh um and then also along

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different parts of the trail we have

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folks patrolling and doing maintenance

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where there are issues we go and fix

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things um and along the trail are

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different areas with Gardens and grass

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that needs to be cut so again we have a

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schedule and folks show up and do that

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um hopefully because we're still in

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November we might by the end of this

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year have finished the um resurfacing

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from Highway 21 to South Street but that

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depends on the weather so if we not able

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to do that I'll push into next year's

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plan going to next year um the next

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patch we would like to resurface will be

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the area from South Street to McNab

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Street and then as we surface the trail

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we sort of clean around the brush and

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the bush around that um one area of

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particular importance to me uh is really

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we continue to advocate for safety

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around the connection between the trail

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and Highway 21 we understand that this

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is really more of an advocacy from the

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town as it's an MTO decision but this is

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an area that concerns a lot of people so

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we hope um we can get that resolved and

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it's not a tragedy that forces us to do

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that because I have been driving and

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seen people just standing there

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terrified to cross so that's quite a bit

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of a problem having said that we will

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still also like to improve sort of the

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um just as you stand there we want to be

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able to pave some of the shoulders to

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avoid a tripping Hazard particularly for

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folks who might have Mobility

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devices um but generally we want to

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improve safety in that particular area

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we will continue in 2025 with uh Trail

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maintenance along different

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portions um I would like to mention also

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that we plant trees and we get a lot of

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donations from trees for S green and

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also the town so I like to specifically

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call that out that will continue um and

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the trail has different access points

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and so those nodes have to be fixed and

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so that's in the

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plan additionally um we will repair and

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replace park benches and upgrade certain

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permeable bases in areas that you

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caned so at a high level that is the

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plan for

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2025 um again to reiterate this is an

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organiz ganization of volunteers who

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donate their time their equipment um

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sometimes family show show up with their

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kids and do all the work and um I also

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like to say that we get a lot of thanks

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from community members um I was having a

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conversation with someone and I

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mentioned that probably the town can

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relate you know of 100 people who use

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your roads one person might call to

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complain about a p hole but there are

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thousands who enjoy it and don't say

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anything um but we appreciate both all

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the same um thanks for the comments open

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to any questions thanks for the time

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sorry open to any questions and

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comments thank you very much and again

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um any any followup will happen uh via

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our staff bringing us information but

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any comments questions from from members

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of council councelor

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Grace uh thank you Madame Deputy Mayor

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um thanks Stella for uh your leadership

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and the leadership of your board and all

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the work of the volunteers to keep this

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uh amazing uh resource open for us um I

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have a question actually for our manager

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of engineering uh to see if he has an

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update for us on the um Highway 21

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Crossing just a little bit of background

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that the town did uh present a

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delegation to the Ministry of

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Transportation in January of

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2023 and uh I know that our staff has

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been diligent in in trying to work with

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the Ministry of Transportation to come

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to a resolution so um I asked Rahul if

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he would actually say something about

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that tonight I think he's got something

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to tell

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us good evening and through you Deputy

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Mayor with the councelor

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grace um actually I am working U on this

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Crossing since I

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started last year in March

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one I did also some research I found

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that actually this thing started maybe

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20 years

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back I have all the documents actually I

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saved

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them in my

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folder anyway so um I have the documents

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that actually I did the followup with

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MTU uh at least from since last

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May I actually sent around 20 sorry 10

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emails to MTO and undering

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updates uh and we also had one meeting

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with them uh I think in last

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June and uh

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uh the problem is uh they have so many

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Chang changes in their in their Staffing

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uh Staffing that uh they lost track they

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lost track of this system like every

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time I U reached out to them I got new

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person who is dealing with this thing uh

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they have a office they called it uh

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Corridor management office they actually

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deal this thing on behalf of

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MTO uh so the last person actually now

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is dealing his name is Andrew

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Robertson uh he's the corridor

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management officer we had a meeting with

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them in last uh I think June 10th and in

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that meeting actually right after that

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meeting I followed up with the some ask

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that we received from The Rail Trail

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Association I

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asked to improve The Pedestrian crossing

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lights or install pedestrian causing

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lights at the

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intersection asphalt on both sides

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approaches just to make a smooth

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transition installing more visible

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signes on Highway 21 for this

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Crossing and then other options that

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like elevated Crossing Calvert Crossing

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for

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pedestrian asphalt shoulders all along

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the de section

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uh the response I got from

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MTO that that was only the one kind of

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positive response they said that MTU has

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facilitated several internal internal

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meetings to bring our functional offices

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back to back into discussions about this

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Crossing and that guy actually told that

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I am uh waiting some additional for some

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additional comments to be submitted

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back to our Corridor management office

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and we will forward them to you when

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made available so I received this uh

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email that was on uh I think on June

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26 then again I followed up in July

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26 one month after and the last response

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I received from them is August

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27 uh they said thanks for following up

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on this application and your continued

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patience MTO Corridor management office

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is experiencing some internal Staffing

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changes and responsibilities and an

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unprecedented volume of permit inquiries

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at this time we will endeavor to further

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process the trail permits and additional

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approvals should be made available

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shortly that I received last August 27

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and since then I also followed up couple

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of uh email in in September in October

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also just today and waiting for their

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response but since August 27 I haven't

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received any respones long

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M that's the

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update thank you very much for that rul

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um you as well as a number of other

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staff members Contin to ask questions

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and I know members of council have also

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taken opportunities at conferences so we

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just must keep trying thank you very

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much are there any other comments

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councelor halin thank you Deputy Mayor

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and through you I'd just like to I am

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the council representative on the rail

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trail and I'm honored to work with the

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rail trail and uh I'd like to thank all

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the members of the association and their

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volunteers for their commitment and

550
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,600
contribution to the community the real

551
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,679
Trail is a lot more than just a

552
00:25:00,679 --> 00:25:05,080
trail it's it it's the benches it's the

553
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,159
trees it's the bird houses it's the

554
00:25:08,159 --> 00:25:10,000
facilities like the rail trail building

555
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,679
and the Memorial Garden it's the trees

556
00:25:12,679 --> 00:25:15,880
planted it's the flower gardens and it's

557
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,320
also the mobilization of all kinds of

558
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,000
volunteers formal and informal that do

559
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,559
everything from putting up the bird

560
00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:25,520
houses to cutting lawn along the side so

561
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,279
thank you to all the committee members

562
00:25:27,279 --> 00:25:29,520
because you've made a a great

563
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,640
contribution to our community and I

564
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,520
could imagine what our community would

565
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:44,389
be like without that rail trail so thank

566
00:25:44,399 --> 00:25:47,679
you are there any other comments okay

567
00:25:47,679 --> 00:25:50,799
our third delegation tonight is from

568
00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:52,919
cfuw the Canadian Federation of

569
00:25:52,919 --> 00:25:55,480
University women Southport chapter um

570
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,360
odet bar Bart Niki is going to make

571
00:25:58,360 --> 00:26:00,240
presentation on National Day of

572
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,640
remembrance and action on violence

573
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,960
against women you have 10

574
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,840
minutes Madame Deputy Mayor Huber

575
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:13,039
members of council staff zfu members and

576
00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:15,640
fellow citizens of sogging

577
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,120
chores as you heard my name is odet

578
00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:21,640
bartnicki and I'm here on behalf of 115

579
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,559
members of the Canadian Federation of

580
00:26:24,559 --> 00:26:28,360
women Southport we use the acronym cfuw

581
00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:31,799
you for short we are here to support the

582
00:26:31,799 --> 00:26:34,520
notice of motion put forth by counselor

583
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,240
Grace asking Council to declare intimate

584
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,279
partner violence ipv an

585
00:26:42,279 --> 00:26:46,600
epidemic for 33 years on December 6

586
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,440
annually cfuw Southport has hosted a

587
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,080
vigil in remembrance of the 14 young

588
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,240
women who were killed simply because

589
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,159
they were women at a coal po technique

590
00:26:59,159 --> 00:27:02,159
in Montreal in

591
00:27:02,159 --> 00:27:05,279
1989 many members of council have

592
00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:08,120
attended the vigil over the years and we

593
00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:11,480
hope you will do so again this

594
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,840
year when I spoke before Council on

595
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,600
November 27th

596
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,799
2023 I mentioned other municipalities

597
00:27:20,799 --> 00:27:23,120
including our neighbors karton to the

598
00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:27,080
South which had already declared that

599
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,679
ipv is an

600
00:27:29,679 --> 00:27:33,000
epidemic I was then asked by a member of

601
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,679
council about my use of the term

602
00:27:35,679 --> 00:27:39,200
epidemic to describe

603
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,880
ipv I didn't answer that question very

604
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,440
well last

605
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,919
year but tonight I will share with you

606
00:27:46,919 --> 00:27:50,760
Miriam Webster's definition of epidemic

607
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:51,799
and I

608
00:27:51,799 --> 00:27:56,159
quote affecting or tending to affect a

609
00:27:56,159 --> 00:27:58,799
disproportionately large number of the

610
00:27:58,799 --> 00:28:01,399
individuals within a population

611
00:28:01,399 --> 00:28:02,919
community or

612
00:28:02,919 --> 00:28:05,320
region excessively

613
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,240
prevalent or characterized by WID spread

614
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,360
growth or

615
00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:15,720
extent sadly the incidence of violence

616
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,200
against women intimate partner violence

617
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,960
human trafficking and femicide does meet

618
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,440
that

619
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,279
definition one woman or girl is killed

620
00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:30,200
in Canada every 48

621
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:35,559
hours over 50% of all murders in Canada

622
00:28:35,559 --> 00:28:37,799
are classified as

623
00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:41,120
femicides and they are ipv related ipv

624
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,440
meaning a former or present

625
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,120
partner Ontario alone has seen 52

626
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,360
femicides in 44

627
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,240
weeks and the most recent that you will

628
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,399
have seen in the news is an Ottawa

629
00:28:55,399 --> 00:28:58,360
mother of four killed in broad daylight

630
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,320
just a couple of weeks

631
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:05,720
ago rural communities like ours are 75%

632
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,840
more likely to experience ipv than urban

633
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,200
areas and we have fewer resources to

634
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,039
support the victims and their

635
00:29:16,039 --> 00:29:20,240
families sadly four out of 10 shelter

636
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,320
residents we have the three shelters uh

637
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,279
available to us four out of 10 residents

638
00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:28,480
are children

639
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,919
and they attend our local

640
00:29:30,919 --> 00:29:35,480
schools 44% of Canadian women have

641
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,600
experienced a form of

642
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,279
ipv uh after the age of 15 indigenous

643
00:29:41,279 --> 00:29:43,480
women are three times more likely to

644
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,720
experience

645
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,799
this two in three people in this room

646
00:29:49,799 --> 00:29:52,360
know a woman who has experienced

647
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,320
physical sexual or emotional abuse and

648
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,440
some of those women are in in the room

649
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,519
with us

650
00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:03,840
tonight most incidents go unreported to

651
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,799
police who are required by law to report

652
00:30:07,799 --> 00:30:10,320
occurrences of Domestic and Sexual

653
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,760
Violence human trafficking and domestic

654
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,039
homicide to a federal database every

655
00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:19,960
year our local police have given us

656
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,279
those data that data between April

657
00:30:24,279 --> 00:30:28,039
2018 and March 2024 so six years

658
00:30:28,039 --> 00:30:32,279
basically sogging Shores police reported

659
00:30:32,279 --> 00:30:35,960
hold on to your hats

660
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,760
633 occurrences in three of the four

661
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,919
categories thankfully no femicide was

662
00:30:43,919 --> 00:30:47,600
reported in this period but we think

663
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:53,080
those numbers do meet the definition of

664
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,120
epidemic we want to acknowledge our

665
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,519
local police service has provided its

666
00:30:58,519 --> 00:31:02,000
specialized ipv response training which

667
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,559
is not included in the 2-year police

668
00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:06,720
College training programs in our

669
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,679
Province they provided it to nine of our

670
00:31:09,679 --> 00:31:12,960
officers which we think is just

671
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,080
fabulous sing chores Police Service has

672
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,519
also been a proactive partner in raising

673
00:31:19,519 --> 00:31:22,720
awareness locally along with Bruce gry

674
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,000
Public

675
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,240
Health council members may be aware that

676
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,360
just last week over

677
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,720
250 citizens gathered at Faith Lutheran

678
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,000
Church in Port Elgen to participate in

679
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,200
the anti-human trafficking event hosted

680
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,440
by Port Elgen

681
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,760
rotary that shows how many people in our

682
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,639
community here and we know our community

683
00:31:47,639 --> 00:31:52,399
cares we know you care too we are aware

684
00:31:52,399 --> 00:31:55,720
that in January of this year you

685
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,799
endorsed the Declaration made by Gage we

686
00:31:59,799 --> 00:32:02,600
hope you will join over 100 other

687
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,080
Ontario

688
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,440
municipalities and vote to make the

689
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,760
Declaration that intimate partner

690
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,000
violence is an epidemic when it comes

691
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,919
back before you on November

692
00:32:14,919 --> 00:32:18,480
25th we invite members of council and

693
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,519
all members of our community to join us

694
00:32:21,519 --> 00:32:26,200
at our 34th annual vigil at 12: noon at

695
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,960
Coulter parquette on December 6 this is

696
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,159
the day we Mark national day of

697
00:32:32,159 --> 00:32:35,120
remembrance and action on violence

698
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,440
against women we also ask as we did in

699
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,600
previous years that the town's flag be

700
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,320
lowered on that

701
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,399
day together these actions demonstrate

702
00:32:47,399 --> 00:32:50,200
that all forms of gender-based violence

703
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,559
are not acceptable in sogging chores and

704
00:32:53,559 --> 00:32:57,240
most importantly that sends a message to

705
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,480
our victim

706
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,639
it sends a message of Hope to them and

707
00:33:00,639 --> 00:33:02,240
their

708
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,320
families finally our sincere thanks to

709
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,720
counselor Grace for bringing the notice

710
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,399
of motion before

711
00:33:09,399 --> 00:33:15,149
you and thank you all for allowing us to

712
00:33:15,159 --> 00:33:17,919
delegate thank you odet um there was a

713
00:33:17,919 --> 00:33:21,320
request there related to the flag um do

714
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,840
we need to do

715
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,720
anything they've already got it on on a

716
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,600
schedule there are there any comments

717
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,639
questions from any member of council

718
00:33:30,639 --> 00:33:33,279
councelor daninsky

719
00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:37,080
thank you acting mayor and through you

720
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,279
toet odet thank you very much uh for

721
00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:44,440
that presentation thank you to the cfuw

722
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,200
Southport for all they do especially at

723
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,760
this time of year um there are many

724
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,480
people that can't get to a noon

725
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,880
presentation on December 6th and I fall

726
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,480
into that category this this year is

727
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,440
there something else we can do to be to

728
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,470
be part of

729
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,520
this we have discussed holding it at

730
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,079
different times and I I dare say we will

731
00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:17,320
again we are aware of that um something

732
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,839
else that's changed for us is our

733
00:34:19,839 --> 00:34:23,800
membership which is about5 as we we

734
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,560
stand tonight uh many of them are

735
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,599
full-time working people

736
00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:30,839
so that's changing our organization as

737
00:34:30,839 --> 00:34:32,520
well and that's something we'll take

738
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,760
back and discuss our our chairs are in

739
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,079
the room tonight for that

740
00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:40,119
committee he thank you and if I may

741
00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:43,919
acting mayor um I don't know I can't

742
00:34:43,919 --> 00:34:48,790
recall and with all due respect who

743
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,480
said asked you for a definition of that

744
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,119
pandemic as I've heard my good friend uh

745
00:34:56,119 --> 00:34:59,000
Vice Deputy Mayor my might say time and

746
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,640
time again on one subject or another

747
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:07,200
even one case is one too many and I

748
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,079
stand by that and I do agree with you

749
00:35:11,079 --> 00:35:14,320
there is an epidemic and it has to be

750
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,880
addressed thank you very much thank you

751
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,079
if I could just add one more comment we

752
00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:24,680
do um use three shelters for women in

753
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,200
our community and members of

754
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,359
cfuw um do take donations around the

755
00:35:31,359 --> 00:35:34,760
vigil and we take it um e transfers

756
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,119
checks cash in your pocket if you happen

757
00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:39,720
to show up and then we make little

758
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:42,880
visits in in pairs and last year I was

759
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,280
struck um going with uh one of our

760
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,760
members down to Karden new Young manager

761
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,800
there and she told us that the three

762
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,480
shelters had not had one cent in

763
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,079
increase for over six

764
00:35:56,079 --> 00:35:59,440
years however the incidents and the need

765
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,760
they do at all three shelters have to

766
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,079
turn people away and sometimes it's

767
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:05,200
people with

768
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,240
children so um that's another thing we

769
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:11,000
do is we do try to support our shelters

770
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,599
a little bit around that occasion thank

771
00:36:13,599 --> 00:36:16,800
you thank you councelor stack and then

772
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,079
councelor hin so thank you for the

773
00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:21,079
presentation um I just wanted to make

774
00:36:21,079 --> 00:36:24,400
one note on uh domestic violence in our

775
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,280
community so I used to sit on the board

776
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,920
for the women's house in Karden and I

777
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,000
had the opportunity to help a woman who

778
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,720
was the victim of abuse and I sort of

779
00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:37,800
experienced I watched her do the intake

780
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,079
which can be quite traumatic and um

781
00:36:41,079 --> 00:36:44,200
unintentionally dehumanizing you have to

782
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,160
basically strip down the to one layer of

783
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,240
clothing everything you own gets washed

784
00:36:49,240 --> 00:36:51,800
for fear of you know any manner of of

785
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,480
issues that can come in in shared

786
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,359
housing um and then you have to sort

787
00:36:55,359 --> 00:36:56,400
through that and you have to do that

788
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,240
before you actually enter the shelter

789
00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:00,280
itself so there's an intake Bay where

790
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,280
you're sat with um a representative

791
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,079
yourself you have your children you go

792
00:37:05,079 --> 00:37:06,319
through this process before you even

793
00:37:06,319 --> 00:37:09,079
enter the services if I recall you get

794
00:37:09,079 --> 00:37:10,319
six or eight weeks there and then you go

795
00:37:10,319 --> 00:37:12,000
into second stage housing and the second

796
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,839
stage housing can be very challenging

797
00:37:14,839 --> 00:37:18,200
and you're often dealing with women in

798
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,040
this case who are very economically

799
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,040
disadvantage so people who may never

800
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,319
have earned income who have never filed

801
00:37:25,319 --> 00:37:28,440
their taxes who are struggling to manage

802
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,480
through the trauma of that abuse

803
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,680
managing their children managing a new

804
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,240
home typically away from their families

805
00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:37,440
um so I share that as just a a to sort

806
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,960
of reiterate and reinforce the

807
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,839
significant effect that do domestic

808
00:37:41,839 --> 00:37:43,720
violence can have on women in this

809
00:37:43,720 --> 00:37:45,839
community and I think because of the

810
00:37:45,839 --> 00:37:48,200
affluence in our community it often goes

811
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,720
unnoticed but there are shelters as you

812
00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:53,760
noted in Port Elgen and K Carden in owwn

813
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,520
that are always full um and so I think

814
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,240
when we talk about and I know the motion

815
00:37:58,240 --> 00:37:59,599
comes in regular Council but when we

816
00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:01,599
talk about recognizing the epidemic I

817
00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:03,960
think it's I will certainly support that

818
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,319
I think it's also important to recognize

819
00:38:05,319 --> 00:38:07,240
just the sheer impact that these events

820
00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:09,440
can have on women and it is often a

821
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,880
cycle and it often takes when you're in

822
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,240
those situations it's often many times

823
00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:15,440
they have been through the shelter

824
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,480
system or gotten close to the shelter

825
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:18,839
system before they actually make it out

826
00:38:18,839 --> 00:38:19,839
so I think it's just important to

827
00:38:19,839 --> 00:38:21,599
recognize how significant that impact

828
00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:24,030
can

829
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:28,400
be councelor halin

830
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,560
thank you and through you Deputy Mayor

831
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,880
odet and to your group just as a a

832
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,160
brother who has four sisters and uh a

833
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,480
father who has three daughters thank you

834
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:46,349
thank

835
00:38:46,359 --> 00:38:49,520
you any other councelor

836
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:54,000
Grace thank you Deputy Mayor um I I know

837
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,680
that odet mentioned the fact that uh our

838
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:01,119
Police Services and our police chief um

839
00:39:01,119 --> 00:39:04,359
have worked with cfuw

840
00:39:04,359 --> 00:39:07,200
Southport um

841
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:13,079
to provide um I think some joint funding

842
00:39:13,079 --> 00:39:18,000
and uh that's being used to assist with

843
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,599
um promotional materials and educational

844
00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:23,720
Publications and that kind of thing and

845
00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:26,640
so I would just want to make um a note

846
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,200
of the fact that I appreciate the the

847
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,319
leadership um not just of cfuw Southport

848
00:39:34,319 --> 00:39:37,000
and the team that's uh setting up and

849
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,800
running our vigil this year but also uh

850
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,839
our Police Services who usually provide

851
00:39:41,839 --> 00:39:45,240
a speaker who provide upto-date

852
00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:48,640
um statistics for us and to provide that

853
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:53,119
monetary support um to and and I know

854
00:39:53,119 --> 00:39:56,119
from having attended the um anti-human

855
00:39:56,119 --> 00:39:59,800
trafficking um seminar on Wednesday

856
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,680
night um and hearing the comments of

857
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,640
Inspector Jeremy miten uh on what's

858
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,839
Happening that our police services does

859
00:40:08,839 --> 00:40:12,880
so much more on this issue um to support

860
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,119
victims so thank

861
00:40:16,119 --> 00:40:18,560
you thank you councelor Grace that that

862
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,960
was going to be a comment I made as we

863
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,640
we Segway over to the next part of our

864
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,319
meeting just to say that um I can't be

865
00:40:25,319 --> 00:40:27,079
sure because I can't see the viewership

866
00:40:27,079 --> 00:40:28,839
on on my computer screen but I do

867
00:40:28,839 --> 00:40:31,560
believe um a number of police officers

868
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,400
police Personnel are are zoomed in

869
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,440
watching us on YouTube and and your

870
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,599
comments um will be very appreciated by

871
00:40:39,599 --> 00:40:41,079
the service and also by The Police

872
00:40:41,079 --> 00:40:42,960
Service Board that councelor daninsky

873
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,880
and I will take those comments with us

874
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,319
um to the next Police Service board

875
00:40:47,319 --> 00:40:49,359
meeting seeing the end of the

876
00:40:49,359 --> 00:40:51,319
delegations we have no public meetings

877
00:40:51,319 --> 00:40:54,640
tonight we'll move on now to um staff

878
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,680
reports um the first one up um will be

879
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:58,880
of interest to some people in the

880
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,359
audience it's about the Aquatic and

881
00:41:00,359 --> 00:41:01,760
Wellness Center operations and

882
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,359
management plan so um without further

883
00:41:05,359 --> 00:41:10,839
Ado um I will call on Lisa billing to

884
00:41:10,839 --> 00:41:13,309
make a

885
00:41:13,319 --> 00:41:15,560
presentation I I thought by giving you

886
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,359
that intro some some of them might have

887
00:41:18,359 --> 00:41:21,839
stayed Aquatics and Wellness Center I

888
00:41:21,839 --> 00:41:55,829
appreciate intro

889
00:41:55,839 --> 00:41:58,240
Okay so

890
00:41:58,240 --> 00:42:00,200
thank you Deputy Mayor Huber and members

891
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,720
of council tonight I am excited to share

892
00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:05,040
the draft operations and management plan

893
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,640
for the new sogging Shores Aquatic and

894
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,920
Wellness Center commonly referred to as

895
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:09,720
the

896
00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:12,359
AWC also included as attachments with

897
00:42:12,359 --> 00:42:14,599
the draft plan are the results summary

898
00:42:14,599 --> 00:42:16,760
from this Summer's Community engagement

899
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,200
campaign and a draft framework for the

900
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,839
aw for the proposed AWC fees and charges

901
00:42:22,839 --> 00:42:25,000
the draft plan is a result of advancing

902
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,480
the AWC activation and trans transtion

903
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,720
plans throughout 2024 and integrates

904
00:42:29,720 --> 00:42:31,559
feedback received during Community

905
00:42:31,559 --> 00:42:33,839
engagement the intent of the draft plan

906
00:42:33,839 --> 00:42:35,480
is to provide council with a high level

907
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,960
overview of the approach and principles

908
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,599
guiding the operational planning for the

909
00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:42,520
AWC and to seek Council

910
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,720
feedback overall there is General

911
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:46,160
excitement in the community about the

912
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:47,839
programming and possibilities available

913
00:42:47,839 --> 00:42:49,839
at the ad and the possibilities at the

914
00:42:49,839 --> 00:42:52,640
AWC key themes that came through the

915
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,280
community engagement include a place for

916
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,520
families to participate together that

917
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,040
membership options are important there's

918
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,079
a desire for Innovative programs that

919
00:43:02,079 --> 00:43:04,720
maximize multi-use facility areas

920
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:07,559
recreational Sport and play for all ages

921
00:43:07,559 --> 00:43:09,839
programming Beyond physical health and

922
00:43:09,839 --> 00:43:12,520
movement a desire for cross programming

923
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,160
between facility areas adults and

924
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:16,680
seniors who want to improve their

925
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,319
physical health with community and with

926
00:43:19,319 --> 00:43:22,000
each other welcoming Community use like

927
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,359
rentals and that barrier-free access

928
00:43:24,359 --> 00:43:27,280
including Financial access is important

929
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,800
these themes have been considered while

930
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,839
developing the draft plan and they

931
00:43:30,839 --> 00:43:32,480
continue they will continue to guide the

932
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,359
detailed planning and development of

933
00:43:34,359 --> 00:43:35,800
programming Service delivery and

934
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,400
operational standards the draft plan is

935
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,599
focused around key seven key operational

936
00:43:40,599 --> 00:43:43,079
areas highlighted in the report each

937
00:43:43,079 --> 00:43:45,319
section of the report includes a summary

938
00:43:45,319 --> 00:43:47,160
of that section and the page number

939
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,119
where information can be located within

940
00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:50,599
the within the

941
00:43:50,599 --> 00:43:53,960
report or within the plan itself key

942
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,000
areas of the plan include Community

943
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,960
engagement operational objectives

944
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,839
performance and service

945
00:44:00,839 --> 00:44:04,640
levels General operations marketing and

946
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,400
Communications affordable Recreation

947
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,800
Financial forecasts and risk

948
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,119
analysis within the general operations

949
00:44:12,119 --> 00:44:14,760
section the plan speaks to hours of

950
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,000
operating areas of

951
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,839
responsibility participation

952
00:44:18,839 --> 00:44:21,280
participation structures and program

953
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,680
development it has been just over a year

954
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,960
since I presented the AWC activation

955
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,280
plans Act ation and transition plans to

956
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,920
council about 13 months if we want to

957
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,559
really get down to it um it is an

958
00:44:33,559 --> 00:44:35,119
incredible feeling to be standing here

959
00:44:35,119 --> 00:44:37,280
tonight in front of council to share

960
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:38,400
with you what we heard from the

961
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:39,839
community and how that feedback has

962
00:44:39,839 --> 00:44:41,559
helped to shape the draft plan is

963
00:44:41,559 --> 00:44:43,960
delivered tonight a final plan will be

964
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,960
presented in Q2 of 2025 along with a

965
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,359
recommendation to amend the 2025 fees

966
00:44:49,359 --> 00:44:51,839
and charges bylaw the final plan is

967
00:44:51,839 --> 00:44:53,960
intended to further refine the AWC

968
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,000
program and service offerings as well as

969
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,559
the program structure

970
00:44:57,559 --> 00:45:00,119
outline a preliminary opening schedule

971
00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:02,520
support the proposed AWC fees and

972
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,359
charges and outline criteria for

973
00:45:04,359 --> 00:45:06,200
accessing the affordable Recreation

974
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,359
program I would like to thank our staff

975
00:45:08,359 --> 00:45:10,400
team Council and the community for their

976
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,599
support that has got us to this point

977
00:45:12,599 --> 00:45:15,040
feedback and support has been integral

978
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:16,680
integral to the development of this

979
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,520
draft plan and will continue to guide us

980
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,040
as we advance towards opening the doors

981
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,280
and bringing this new operation to life

982
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,040
thank you for your time and I welcome

983
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,280
questions and comments from members of

984
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,319
council thank you to the manager of

985
00:45:30,319 --> 00:45:33,480
recreation for her report are there any

986
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,640
comments questions the vice Deputy Mayor

987
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,240
yep thank you Deputy Mayor um Lisa

988
00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:40,319
thanks very much for this report you've

989
00:45:40,319 --> 00:45:43,400
uh you really aced it uh that that

990
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,000
that's tremendous amount of work and uh

991
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,480
it's so well laid out very impressive

992
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,000
and U it really sets the course you know

993
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,200
for next November when we open up our

994
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,640
facility so I really really commend you

995
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,440
for the uh excellent job you've done I

996
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,160
did have a few uh comments questions um

997
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,880
the I was interested when we looked at

998
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,920
the five key areas of Aquatics

999
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,680
Recreation Fitness Leisure and

1000
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,599
stem um that caught my eye and U there's

1001
00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:15,480
a strong interest in STEM related

1002
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,200
activities include robotics coding

1003
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,359
classes science experiments both

1004
00:46:21,359 --> 00:46:22,520
children and

1005
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,040
adults so that really caught my eye in

1006
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,480
terms of this is an aquatic and Wellness

1007
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,640
Center so H how did that come about yes

1008
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,319
so through you uh Deputy Mayor we

1009
00:46:34,319 --> 00:46:38,400
included that just as another area of

1010
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,520
activity that the community is

1011
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,000
interested in so Leisure and social

1012
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,480
activities combined into Aquatics and

1013
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,880
wellness but we thought let's just ask a

1014
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,599
couple questions outside of you know

1015
00:46:50,599 --> 00:46:53,480
kind of that core Recreation programming

1016
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,280
um so we wanted to dabble into the area

1017
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,640
around stem to see if was interest in

1018
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,520
the community we recognize that there

1019
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,599
are Partners we're standing in the

1020
00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:04,119
nuclear Innovation Institute they offer

1021
00:47:04,119 --> 00:47:07,920
uh some amazing programming around um

1022
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:12,960
Robotics and um Ai and all of the stem

1023
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,480
activities that they are doing as part

1024
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,200
of their explore program um so I think

1025
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,880
it's not necessarily an area that we

1026
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,440
would lead all on our own but maybe look

1027
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:23,960
to work with Partners if there's an

1028
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,800
opportunity to expand that programming

1029
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,760
even more broadly

1030
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,520
okay I just Aquatics Wellness Center I

1031
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,200
just I I I was just wondering what path

1032
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,319
were heading down with their programming

1033
00:47:35,319 --> 00:47:37,960
that's all but it was an interesting U

1034
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,440
it was an interesting read when I saw

1035
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:44,200
that um the uh the other comments I had

1036
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,839
was about that I didn't see in here was

1037
00:47:46,839 --> 00:47:48,720
I know people do travel on sound for

1038
00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:50,520
this program it's a cardiac rehab

1039
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,200
program uh which very popular over there

1040
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,240
maybe I missed it in the report but is

1041
00:47:55,240 --> 00:47:57,000
that something we will be considering I

1042
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,480
know there's the medical profession has

1043
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,960
to be involved obviously doctors nurses

1044
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,240
Etc but it's a very successful program

1045
00:48:03,240 --> 00:48:05,079
over there and it's save an our drive to

1046
00:48:05,079 --> 00:48:06,640
get to that program is that something

1047
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,559
we're considering as part of the Aquatic

1048
00:48:08,559 --> 00:48:11,119
and wellness center it's not something

1049
00:48:11,119 --> 00:48:13,359
that's currently part of this dra plan I

1050
00:48:13,359 --> 00:48:15,480
think that would be a discussion with uh

1051
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,200
bright Shores in terms of where those

1052
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,480
programs operate and if that's something

1053
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,319
that we are interested in integrating

1054
00:48:23,319 --> 00:48:25,440
into the AWC I really think we should

1055
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,079
consider it because and you worked in

1056
00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:30,400
sou family why years ago and it it's a

1057
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:31,640
very popular program I don't know

1058
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,440
whether it is still today but over the

1059
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:34,760
years I've had many people comment

1060
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,119
that've got to drive D and sound for the

1061
00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:38,240
program and I think why not do it right

1062
00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:39,800
here because I think that can attract

1063
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,240
some some some some you know different

1064
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:44,680
clientele users into our facility and

1065
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,880
what a better way to rehabilitate than

1066
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,200
get into the PO for some cardiac rehab

1067
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,240
so I think that' be something if if

1068
00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:53,720
staff could consider I think it be a

1069
00:48:53,720 --> 00:48:59,119
good thing um on page uh 25 a bit of a

1070
00:48:59,119 --> 00:49:02,960
concern for me and that's the free uh

1071
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,559
Community walking time and you know I

1072
00:49:06,559 --> 00:49:08,480
I'm sure people in the community that

1073
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,280
mind gu you know cutting out free

1074
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:11,559
community walking time for the walking

1075
00:49:11,559 --> 00:49:14,160
Track but you know in year one I think I

1076
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,280
read a $1.2 million operating deficit

1077
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:17,960
it's going to come down

1078
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,040
substantially in year two to 4 500 and

1079
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,640
then all the way down to zero hopefully

1080
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,400
in the over the next four five six years

1081
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,960
but I think we ought to to be careful

1082
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,400
with with giving out uh too many free

1083
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,720
things right in the beginning because

1084
00:49:33,720 --> 00:49:34,880
you give it out free in the beginning

1085
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,799
it's really hard to charge lader and uh

1086
00:49:37,799 --> 00:49:39,640
I I saw with this a six-month walking

1087
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,520
Track membership but I guess my question

1088
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,119
is and I think that's a good thing take

1089
00:49:44,119 --> 00:49:45,799
my wife for example one thing she'

1090
00:49:45,799 --> 00:49:49,200
joined is pay $100 $150 every six months

1091
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,440
for to use the walking Track however if

1092
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,480
you know if you know if you had if you

1093
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,240
had 3 400 those at $60,000 a

1094
00:49:59,240 --> 00:50:03,200
year potentially um but you got free

1095
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,760
walking Track Time mornings afternoons

1096
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,160
and evenings and weekends and that that

1097
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,079
caught my eye too Lisa in terms of I I'm

1098
00:50:11,079 --> 00:50:13,720
not sure we should be doing that and and

1099
00:50:13,720 --> 00:50:17,280
what so what you know the people that

1100
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:18,599
were thinking about buying memberships

1101
00:50:18,599 --> 00:50:20,119
for the walking Track and I think we

1102
00:50:20,119 --> 00:50:22,520
need to think to take a look at all

1103
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,000
revenues um why why would people just

1104
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,920
not go morning afternoons evenings

1105
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,040
weekends to the free walking time and

1106
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,319
and foro the

1107
00:50:34,319 --> 00:50:38,040
membership uh through you Deputy Mayor

1108
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,480
the intention for the free indoor track

1109
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,160
access um is not necessarily to say that

1110
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,960
it's every weekday every weekend every

1111
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,319
evening um there would be defined times

1112
00:50:50,319 --> 00:50:54,240
um where access would be provided at no

1113
00:50:54,240 --> 00:50:57,760
cost however um it wouldn't be all of

1114
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,880
the time um so that is sort of the

1115
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:03,240
intention of how council could support

1116
00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:06,400
um free participation through sort of

1117
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,440
scheduled program times it did it did

1118
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,000
say afternoon evening weekends and um I

1119
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,119
just think if someone's going to go to

1120
00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:14,559
use a walking Track three or four times

1121
00:51:14,559 --> 00:51:17,960
a week why buy the membership for $150

1122
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,359
for six months why not just go to the

1123
00:51:19,359 --> 00:51:21,280
free walking times I just think we need

1124
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,359
to take a look at with with when I take

1125
00:51:24,359 --> 00:51:26,200
a look at a $1.2 million offering

1126
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:27,559
deficit year one I know that's a little

1127
00:51:27,559 --> 00:51:30,520
misleading I get that um but because it

1128
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,160
really dropped substantially a year two

1129
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:33,839
as full memberships come in for the full

1130
00:51:33,839 --> 00:51:35,799
year but I really think we should take a

1131
00:51:35,799 --> 00:51:38,880
look at what what we're giving away with

1132
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,799
our $50 million facility that we ought

1133
00:51:41,799 --> 00:51:43,240
to be very careful with that so we just

1134
00:51:43,240 --> 00:51:45,839
want to plant that seed for uh the fees

1135
00:51:45,839 --> 00:51:48,240
and charges will come to council when

1136
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:49,359
when we'll be able to take a look at

1137
00:51:49,359 --> 00:51:51,559
that walking Track membership for

1138
00:51:51,559 --> 00:51:53,480
example yeah it will come to Council in

1139
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:57,319
Q2 um of 2025 so probably around May or

1140
00:51:57,319 --> 00:52:00,760
June next year May or June well look

1141
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,079
I'll be speaking to that again when it

1142
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:04,599
comes I because I just think we ought

1143
00:52:04,599 --> 00:52:07,440
ought to take a look at that

1144
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,599
um one second

1145
00:52:10,599 --> 00:52:13,559
here my organized

1146
00:52:13,559 --> 00:52:18,640
notes I think um you know on page

1147
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:22,359
um 24 I think no no there was in one of

1148
00:52:22,359 --> 00:52:24,240
the pages anyway it said 85% of those

1149
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:26,119
surveyed felt that keeping the Aquatic

1150
00:52:26,119 --> 00:52:28,680
and Wellness Center affordable as a high

1151
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,760
priority and um you know I think it's

1152
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,680
important to not turn people away people

1153
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,480
who can afford to pay need to pay but

1154
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,119
people cannot afford to pay I'm glad to

1155
00:52:39,119 --> 00:52:40,680
see that there's a subsidy program in

1156
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,960
there I think that's really important

1157
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,799
and uh so I'm glad that's that's

1158
00:52:44,799 --> 00:52:48,640
included and um because we need you know

1159
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,520
I I think it's important regardless of

1160
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:51,960
your ability to pay you need to able to

1161
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:52,839
use the

1162
00:52:52,839 --> 00:52:59,150
facility um

1163
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,079
I think that's all I had had had for now

1164
00:53:02,079 --> 00:53:05,960
I I I just really um really really

1165
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,720
impressed with the report again um leis

1166
00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:11,520
and and the uh percentage of those that

1167
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,599
were survey I think there was really

1168
00:53:13,599 --> 00:53:15,440
good Community input by the sounds of it

1169
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,319
did I see 500 someplace where there

1170
00:53:17,319 --> 00:53:19,559
about 500 people responded to the survey

1171
00:53:19,559 --> 00:53:21,960
yes that's correct yeah just under 500

1172
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,720
responses which is amazing great there

1173
00:53:25,720 --> 00:53:27,559
again job w

1174
00:53:27,559 --> 00:53:29,910
thank

1175
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:34,829
you anyone else councilor

1176
00:53:34,839 --> 00:53:37,079
divinsky thank you acting mayor and

1177
00:53:37,079 --> 00:53:38,200
through

1178
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,599
you a great report thank you very much

1179
00:53:41,599 --> 00:53:43,480
for that lots of

1180
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,920
information under project

1181
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:51,319
scheduling it could be just me but it

1182
00:53:51,319 --> 00:53:54,280
says the draft plan is based on the

1183
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,119
current construction schedule

1184
00:53:57,119 --> 00:53:59,319
do that mean the construction schedule

1185
00:53:59,319 --> 00:54:03,319
changed from the original one and if so

1186
00:54:03,319 --> 00:54:05,480
are we

1187
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,640
behind the reference to the current uh

1188
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,680
construction schedule refers to the

1189
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,119
schedule update that Council received in

1190
00:54:14,119 --> 00:54:15,920
September with the fundraising update

1191
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,559
with the fall 2025

1192
00:54:19,559 --> 00:54:23,230
occupancy through you

1193
00:54:23,240 --> 00:54:26,799
so what we're saying here is that uh uh

1194
00:54:26,799 --> 00:54:29,280
the occupancy of the AWC and the second

1195
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:33,480
floor municipal office expected in Fall

1196
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,839
2025 that's correct

1197
00:54:35,839 --> 00:54:38,640
okay that wasn't in the original plan it

1198
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,160
was going to be sooner than that was it

1199
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,880
not when the AWC activation and

1200
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,960
transition plans were presented last

1201
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,240
October the occupancy was anticipated

1202
00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:52,119
for July

1203
00:54:52,119 --> 00:54:54,119
2025 okay and

1204
00:54:54,119 --> 00:54:58,599
finally um a soft opening of the

1205
00:54:58,599 --> 00:55:01,200
AWC is expected in November and

1206
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,040
obviously you're talking about next

1207
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,680
November not this month that's correct

1208
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,720
yes November

1209
00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:12,359
2025 okay I saw our community services

1210
00:55:12,359 --> 00:55:15,760
director get up uh kisten nothing

1211
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,280
everything's answered

1212
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:21,240
correctly okay I have uh one more

1213
00:55:21,240 --> 00:55:24,599
question this uh has to do with the

1214
00:55:24,599 --> 00:55:29,910
performance and levels of

1215
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,599
service for those that have memberships

1216
00:55:32,599 --> 00:55:34,960
at Centennial pool

1217
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,920
currently I assume those memberships

1218
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,559
will transfer to the new facility

1219
00:55:41,559 --> 00:55:43,559
automatically and they won't be

1220
00:55:43,559 --> 00:55:47,240
surprised with a a price increase until

1221
00:55:47,240 --> 00:55:50,079
the next go around how's that going to

1222
00:55:50,079 --> 00:55:53,599
work sure yes we currently have um a

1223
00:55:53,599 --> 00:55:55,680
one-year uh membership option at the

1224
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,680
Centennial as well as a six-month

1225
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,920
membership option and the ab

1226
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:02,400
availability to purchase 10 or 20 visit

1227
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,480
Punch Cards we have pause purchasing

1228
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,000
one-year memberships at the existing

1229
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:12,200
facility in anticipation of uh new

1230
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,680
quatic memberships for the AWC however

1231
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,400
the six-month memberships as well as

1232
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,960
Punch Cards can still be purchased okay

1233
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:20,680
and should they

1234
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,920
overla they will be honored at the new

1235
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,839
facility until they expire

1236
00:56:26,839 --> 00:56:28,480
correct if there was a period of time

1237
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:29,799
that they would be overlapping with

1238
00:56:29,799 --> 00:56:31,440
operations of

1239
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,880
AWC okay thank you thank you Deputy

1240
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:37,240
Mayor councelor

1241
00:56:37,240 --> 00:56:40,000
Grace thank you uh Madame Deputy Mayor

1242
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,480
and thank you Lisa this is a fantastic

1243
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:47,799
report um long but very interesting and

1244
00:56:47,799 --> 00:56:51,200
um uh pretty inspiring actually and

1245
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:55,400
exciting uh to see what what awaits us

1246
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,760
um I just wanted to I I don't really

1247
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:00,480
think I have questions but I just wanted

1248
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,599
to make a note of some things that I was

1249
00:57:02,599 --> 00:57:06,319
very pleased to see um the vice Deputy

1250
00:57:06,319 --> 00:57:09,920
Mayor talked about the um emphasis from

1251
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,400
the survey about

1252
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:16,520
affordability and uh how we had an 85%

1253
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,359
response rate from a very healthy

1254
00:57:19,359 --> 00:57:22,760
surveyed number um being in favor of

1255
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,160
that and I that says a lot about our

1256
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,359
community and our

1257
00:57:27,359 --> 00:57:30,799
generosity uh so that's that's great um

1258
00:57:30,799 --> 00:57:33,160
the emphasis upon accessibility

1259
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:34,640
barrier-free

1260
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:40,000
access um the emphasis upon um making

1261
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:44,200
this a family Hub um youth programs with

1262
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,839
teen kns and youth soccer and basketball

1263
00:57:47,839 --> 00:57:49,599
that's been something that we've heard I

1264
00:57:49,599 --> 00:57:51,480
think through our recreational Master

1265
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,520
plans through the years that that's

1266
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,599
something we're missing so that's really

1267
00:57:55,599 --> 00:57:58,200
wonderful see that as well as all of

1268
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,839
these other um support activities social

1269
00:58:01,839 --> 00:58:05,079
activities um book clubs card games arts

1270
00:58:05,079 --> 00:58:07,839
and crafts the Community Kitchen uh

1271
00:58:07,839 --> 00:58:10,760
thing is a wonderful idea I know that

1272
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:15,520
when um back when we had our um

1273
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:19,119
affordable housing um task force that we

1274
00:58:19,119 --> 00:58:22,000
were working on and uh within the

1275
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,520
homelessness

1276
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,520
subcommittee um that came up at as

1277
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,440
something that could be used as a

1278
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,920
support um for uh you know not just sort

1279
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,200
of recreational cooking but something

1280
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,640
that could be a real support for the

1281
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,079
community um so that's great to see as

1282
00:58:41,079 --> 00:58:44,000
well as that potential partnership with

1283
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,599
the nii for STEM related

1284
00:58:46,599 --> 00:58:48,200
activities

1285
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,960
um that is great and I agree with the

1286
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,640
vice Deputy Mayor that if you if we can

1287
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,200
somehow reach out on that cardiac rehab

1288
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,200
program that would be a wonderful

1289
00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:59,480
addition because that's something I've

1290
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,839
heard from residents as well uh thank

1291
00:59:01,839 --> 00:59:06,960
you again great report and um I really

1292
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,440
hope that a lot of our residents will

1293
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:13,950
take a look at it thank you thank

1294
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,760
you important to to convey though that

1295
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,160
some of the things that have been said

1296
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,720
are ideas they're not they're not for

1297
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:25,720
shures and certainly uh facilities um to

1298
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,760
to enable some ideas are not necessarily

1299
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,359
in the building um at this time I did

1300
00:59:31,359 --> 00:59:33,359
want to um I had a couple questions but

1301
00:59:33,359 --> 00:59:35,440
since the vice Deputy Mayor and

1302
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:36,839
councelor Grace both mentioned the

1303
00:59:36,839 --> 00:59:40,559
Cardiac Care uh program there is um in

1304
00:59:40,559 --> 00:59:43,520
the draft on page 18 there is a comment

1305
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,680
about the user group engagement campaign

1306
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,160
and it is specific to Health Care

1307
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:50,880
Providers and other thirdparty

1308
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,880
organizations so um you know I hope that

1309
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:55,599
you you have some success When You Reach

1310
00:59:55,599 --> 00:59:58,400
Out because um care close to home is a

1311
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,440
very important idea and if we have a

1312
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,880
nice facility um let's let's get people

1313
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:04,240
in there for all kinds of different

1314
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,280
reasons I had a couple of questions

1315
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,039
though um I know that there's a a

1316
01:00:09,039 --> 01:00:10,760
position posting right now which is one

1317
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:14,319
of the positions associated with um the

1318
01:00:14,319 --> 01:00:15,880
aquatics and Wellness

1319
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:19,880
Center it talks about um land landbased

1320
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,119
or land programming I can't remember the

1321
01:00:22,119 --> 01:00:24,440
exact expression are we going to think

1322
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,920
about the the community comp has as a

1323
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:30,119
single unit or um will there still be a

1324
01:00:30,119 --> 01:00:33,319
distinction with the ice side and then

1325
01:00:33,319 --> 01:00:36,200
the land side the land-based programming

1326
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,799
side and the pool is it three separate

1327
01:00:38,799 --> 01:00:40,960
entities or will this this position

1328
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,319
that's being um recruited for right now

1329
01:00:43,319 --> 01:00:45,680
when it talks about improving um

1330
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,920
programming will they have some

1331
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,480
engagement with improving potential um

1332
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,200
Community programming associated with

1333
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,640
the ice as

1334
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:58,839
well I think think the position itself

1335
01:00:58,839 --> 01:01:01,280
will essentially fill the role that the

1336
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,599
Aquatic supervisor currently fills

1337
01:01:03,599 --> 01:01:06,920
within so on the on the Aquatic Wet Side

1338
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,200
we have the Aquatic supervisor um and

1339
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,000
they take care of all of the programming

1340
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,280
within that space so the Dryland side

1341
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:17,200
the landbase side of the facility also

1342
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,559
needs um support to provide those

1343
01:01:20,559 --> 01:01:23,400
operations I think there is opportunity

1344
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,160
um to we want to create connections

1345
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:27,799
within our facilities and make sure

1346
01:01:27,799 --> 01:01:30,799
we're uh maximizing how we're using

1347
01:01:30,799 --> 01:01:31,880
those spaces and if there's

1348
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,119
opportunities for cross programming uh

1349
01:01:34,119 --> 01:01:37,119
for summer camps that use both the arena

1350
01:01:37,119 --> 01:01:39,039
and the Aquatic and Wellness Center I

1351
01:01:39,039 --> 01:01:40,119
think those are where we're really going

1352
01:01:40,119 --> 01:01:44,240
to look to see um opportunities to um

1353
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:45,880
work together across our different

1354
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,480
facilities that we offer but I don't see

1355
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,279
the Aquatic and Wellness Center being

1356
01:01:50,279 --> 01:01:53,039
exclusive and clex being exclusive they

1357
01:01:53,039 --> 01:01:54,400
will operate in

1358
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,799
Partnership I think it will work really

1359
01:01:56,799 --> 01:01:59,640
well to consider a cluster of activities

1360
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,799
um since you mentioned day camps or

1361
01:02:01,799 --> 01:02:03,680
summer camps I there was a comment in

1362
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,240
there about the intention to improve

1363
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,920
enrollment or improve opportunity for 40

1364
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:12,240
campers um how many my understanding

1365
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,160
about our our camp program in the summer

1366
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:16,839
was that it was provided by an outside

1367
01:02:16,839 --> 01:02:19,960
provider um but um how many how many

1368
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,000
kids if you add 40 to a number that

1369
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,039
exists how many children are we talking

1370
01:02:24,039 --> 01:02:25,640
about that potentially could be involved

1371
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,640
with summer camps yeah uh so we do we

1372
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,240
have offer camp in a couple of different

1373
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:33,440
ways our traditional non-aquatic day

1374
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,520
camps have been offered um half day

1375
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,319
camps by a a thirdparty provider but we

1376
01:02:38,319 --> 01:02:40,799
also provide our own direct camp

1377
01:02:40,799 --> 01:02:44,559
programs through the Aquatic um program

1378
01:02:44,559 --> 01:02:46,400
and this year we actually increased our

1379
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,720
camp spots by about 20 so we had about

1380
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,880
64 campers per week in a variety of camp

1381
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,720
programs especially Camp plus two um

1382
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,119
more traditional day camps but they

1383
01:02:56,119 --> 01:02:59,599
would go into the pool daily so it if we

1384
01:02:59,599 --> 01:03:02,039
increase our traditional day camp by 40

1385
01:03:02,039 --> 01:03:04,559
campers um a week we'll be at around a

1386
01:03:04,559 --> 01:03:06,480
hundred spaces for

1387
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:10,039
campers that's good I have um two more

1388
01:03:10,039 --> 01:03:12,319
um certainly I appreciate what the vice

1389
01:03:12,319 --> 01:03:14,319
Deputy Mayor said about um not giving

1390
01:03:14,319 --> 01:03:16,640
away too much but I I would just like to

1391
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,079
encourage as the schedule starts to to

1392
01:03:19,079 --> 01:03:21,680
take some form um one of the challenges

1393
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,680
that I see with with ice here is there

1394
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:26,920
there's extremely limited times for

1395
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:30,400
public access to skating um I don't know

1396
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:31,960
exactly what's going on this year but

1397
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,680
last year there was basically one hour

1398
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,480
time in Southampton and one hour time in

1399
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,000
Port algen at the Plex that the public

1400
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:41,760
could get in to just go public skating

1401
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,200
so I hope that um and and they were

1402
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:45,960
sponsored so they weren't quote unquote

1403
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:47,599
free they were with paid for by a

1404
01:03:47,599 --> 01:03:49,599
sponsor I hope that as we think about

1405
01:03:49,599 --> 01:03:53,359
the aquatics facility that we work in um

1406
01:03:53,359 --> 01:03:55,960
a nice number of public swim opport OPP

1407
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,480
unities um there's sponsorship

1408
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,799
opportunities there too but certainly um

1409
01:04:00,799 --> 01:04:03,680
the more public access to the building

1410
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,520
um outside of organized membership

1411
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,200
driven um things like Minor Sports and

1412
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,039
and perhaps the breaker swim program

1413
01:04:11,039 --> 01:04:12,960
that sort of thing or lessons I think

1414
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:14,520
that that would be a good good goal to

1415
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,119
work towards my other my last question

1416
01:04:17,119 --> 01:04:20,279
is um your report is great um it

1417
01:04:20,279 --> 01:04:23,640
includes quite a few ideas um has to

1418
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,359
follow up in terms of surveying and you

1419
01:04:26,359 --> 01:04:28,160
know asking questions to make sure that

1420
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,319
there's satisfaction the one thing that

1421
01:04:30,319 --> 01:04:31,640
um I don't know how you do it but the

1422
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:33,400
one thing that I would encourage is as

1423
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,160
you think about that it's not just about

1424
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,799
um the users of of the facility

1425
01:04:38,799 --> 01:04:40,760
taxpayers and sogging Shores are on the

1426
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:42,559
hook for this facility for quite a few

1427
01:04:42,559 --> 01:04:44,760
years via their contributions to the

1428
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,160
Legacy fund so um some sort of

1429
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:50,160
opportunity um along the way to assess

1430
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,599
Community satisfaction with with the

1431
01:04:52,599 --> 01:04:56,279
build um with the results of of um the

1432
01:04:56,279 --> 01:04:58,319
ideas that are coming out I think that

1433
01:04:58,319 --> 01:05:00,839
that will go a long way to um encourage

1434
01:05:00,839 --> 01:05:03,279
civic pride um because it's it's the

1435
01:05:03,279 --> 01:05:06,000
biggest investment in Recreation stuff

1436
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,200
here ever and um taxpayers will not

1437
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,680
necessarily be participants but

1438
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:13,119
certainly they'll be contributing so if

1439
01:05:13,119 --> 01:05:15,160
there's a way to kind of get at their

1440
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,039
satisfaction I think that that would be

1441
01:05:17,039 --> 01:05:19,000
a good thing too are there any other

1442
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,069
comments by stuty

1443
01:05:22,079 --> 01:05:24,799
mayor thank you councelor stack sorry

1444
01:05:24,799 --> 01:05:27,039
it's okay I just had a quick question

1445
01:05:27,039 --> 01:05:30,960
about the risk analysis so I noticed in

1446
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,720
in the report we're hinging a lot of our

1447
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,079
financial stability for the for the

1448
01:05:36,079 --> 01:05:38,599
programming on membership then I also

1449
01:05:38,599 --> 01:05:41,839
noted that you sort of raise low uptake

1450
01:05:41,839 --> 01:05:44,640
on membership as a low like your level

1451
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,119
of concern is low I assume that's

1452
01:05:47,119 --> 01:05:49,520
because you think the risk of the

1453
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,599
membership is a low membership uptake is

1454
01:05:52,599 --> 01:05:55,119
that's correct okay and then just to

1455
01:05:55,119 --> 01:05:58,559
kind of close that out so are we putting

1456
01:05:58,559 --> 01:06:00,799
so we are we putting preemptive measures

1457
01:06:00,799 --> 01:06:02,240
in place early because I know you want

1458
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,720
to start a recruitment Drive in I think

1459
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:08,079
August next year this year July July

1460
01:06:08,079 --> 01:06:09,200
August will

1461
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:12,680
be um a membership drive for 2025 so

1462
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:15,839
July and August 2025 okay um I think my

1463
01:06:15,839 --> 01:06:18,000
only comment and like I defer to you but

1464
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,200
I'm just worried about if we're saying

1465
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:23,119
that 70% of our revenue is coming from

1466
01:06:23,119 --> 01:06:25,920
membership sales and that so read that

1467
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:27,359
to say if we don't meet our Target

1468
01:06:27,359 --> 01:06:28,960
there's a significant like it's very

1469
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:30,920
consequential right if there's at least

1470
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:32,359
opportunity to consider whether an

1471
01:06:32,359 --> 01:06:34,440
earlier start to that like and I know

1472
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:35,920
there are resourcing concerns but if

1473
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:37,799
it's possible to start that drive a bit

1474
01:06:37,799 --> 01:06:39,760
earlier that would certainly give me a

1475
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:41,400
bit more Comfort given like I said about

1476
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:45,039
70 I think 70% is hinging there um and

1477
01:06:45,039 --> 01:06:46,240
then I just wanted to note a couple of

1478
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:48,640
things I found interesting um so I

1479
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:49,880
thought it was interesting that

1480
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,400
basically the majority of respondents

1481
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,200
want the facility open 9:00 a.m. to 10:

1482
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:56,279
p.m.

1483
01:06:56,279 --> 01:06:58,839
so I I think it's about 48 to 50%

1484
01:06:58,839 --> 01:07:00,440
between those two time those three

1485
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,640
chunks of time that you listed there um

1486
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,279
so I'm hopeful we'll be able to meet

1487
01:07:04,279 --> 01:07:06,880
those needs because I think um I think

1488
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,440
that's pretty important I know the gym I

1489
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:10,920
go to is busy all the time so I'd expect

1490
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:12,960
it would be similar there and then I

1491
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,400
just had a very um silly question that I

1492
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:16,520
couldn't I don't know if I was reading

1493
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,319
too late last night what does dry land

1494
01:07:19,319 --> 01:07:22,279
activities mean so I will take the

1495
01:07:22,279 --> 01:07:25,559
recreation hat basically Dryland is

1496
01:07:25,559 --> 01:07:27,279
landbased or programs that happen

1497
01:07:27,279 --> 01:07:29,720
outside of the pool so anything not in

1498
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,789
the

1499
01:07:32,799 --> 01:07:35,839
pool stuty mayor M yeah thank you Deputy

1500
01:07:35,839 --> 01:07:38,599
Mayor and two two two final comments and

1501
01:07:38,599 --> 01:07:40,480
questions one might be for the director

1502
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,559
of community services and it's to do

1503
01:07:42,559 --> 01:07:44,760
with the potential for relocating of the

1504
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:48,000
Hall of Fame and um bill streer was uh

1505
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,559
here in this Council well I think in the

1506
01:07:50,559 --> 01:07:52,319
other building year year or so ago

1507
01:07:52,319 --> 01:07:54,520
longer and talked about he'd be willing

1508
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:56,599
to sit with Rotary Club and other

1509
01:07:56,599 --> 01:07:59,279
organizations to to revamp take another

1510
01:07:59,279 --> 01:08:01,319
look at the hall of fame and there

1511
01:08:01,319 --> 01:08:02,799
there's probably going to be lots of

1512
01:08:02,799 --> 01:08:04,960
wall space there at the at the new

1513
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,119
aquatic Wellness Center so any progress

1514
01:08:07,119 --> 01:08:12,230
being made on

1515
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,359
that uh thank you for the question and

1516
01:08:14,359 --> 01:08:18,520
through you um Vice or Deputy Mayor um

1517
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:20,560
we do have that uh Council will see that

1518
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:22,799
presented through the business plan as a

1519
01:08:22,799 --> 01:08:25,239
future highlight that's coming up off

1520
01:08:25,239 --> 01:08:26,600
the top of my head right now I can't

1521
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,080
remember if it's 25 or 26 uh that we're

1522
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,319
going to look at uh the Hall of Fame

1523
01:08:31,319 --> 01:08:34,319
perfect thanks for that and uh um one of

1524
01:08:34,319 --> 01:08:37,080
the nice things I think with any

1525
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:38,480
facility particularly a brand new

1526
01:08:38,480 --> 01:08:40,000
facility like this I was in one on the

1527
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,480
weekend down in uh um down Fergus area

1528
01:08:43,480 --> 01:08:45,440
Mount Forest actually and a nice sitting

1529
01:08:45,440 --> 01:08:48,319
area for people sit down and congregate

1530
01:08:48,319 --> 01:08:50,920
meat have a coffee muffin canteen was

1531
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,560
open and uh I see with the Aquatic

1532
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,000
Wellness Center there's no provision for

1533
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:56,040
a can

1534
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,040
but they're they're you're talking about

1535
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,799
perhaps the the Plex whoever operates

1536
01:09:00,799 --> 01:09:03,679
the Plex canteen um you know it could

1537
01:09:03,679 --> 01:09:05,719
spill over into into service in the pool

1538
01:09:05,719 --> 01:09:07,520
as well can you can you shed a little

1539
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,239
more light on that why we decide not to

1540
01:09:10,239 --> 01:09:14,920
do a a canteen at the wellness center I

1541
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:17,520
think in recognizing that the existing

1542
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:19,960
canteen is located in the Plex and it is

1543
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:21,799
connected to the Aquatic and Wellness

1544
01:09:21,799 --> 01:09:24,880
Center through that Corridor link um so

1545
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:26,880
there were there's already a service um

1546
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:29,239
available to be provided there I think

1547
01:09:29,239 --> 01:09:30,759
there's an opportunity to look at the

1548
01:09:30,759 --> 01:09:32,719
agreement that we have in that space and

1549
01:09:32,719 --> 01:09:35,159
maybe reimagine what it looks like in

1550
01:09:35,159 --> 01:09:37,199
order to uh provide some additional

1551
01:09:37,199 --> 01:09:39,880
Services there are sitting areas uh

1552
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,040
within the design as well so there's a a

1553
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,600
really nice sitting area outside of the

1554
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,199
um Auditorium space just outside of the

1555
01:09:47,199 --> 01:09:48,960
glass where Community can gather and

1556
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:50,920
then on the second level as well there's

1557
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:52,359
going to be some seating areas that's

1558
01:09:52,359 --> 01:09:54,000
great it's good to see the break out

1559
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,520
seting areas like that and so there are

1560
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,000
will or are will be active discussions

1561
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,679
around offering canteen services with

1562
01:10:01,679 --> 01:10:04,600
the current operator of the canteen to

1563
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:07,320
expand that service and include the pool

1564
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:09,560
so there there will be some discussions

1565
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:10,920
we will yeah we will take a look at the

1566
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:12,679
agreement and when it expires and how

1567
01:10:12,679 --> 01:10:17,110
that could that how it could

1568
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:20,600
work councelor halin thank you Deputy

1569
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:23,280
Mayor and through you uh just coming

1570
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:27,000
back to your comments about ice time and

1571
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:28,679
you know if we're looking at the Aquatic

1572
01:10:28,679 --> 01:10:30,400
and Wellness Center and the ice Al

1573
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,760
together and everything like that um if

1574
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:34,880
there were more opportunities for public

1575
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,199
skating I know it is very competitive to

1576
01:10:37,199 --> 01:10:40,960
get a sponsorship for public skating I

1577
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,600
mean people businesses are tripping over

1578
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,880
themselves and snabb this up so I think

1579
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:48,719
that there's more businesses and more

1580
01:10:48,719 --> 01:10:51,040
individuals out there that would sponsor

1581
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,760
more free skating and free swimming as

1582
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:55,000
well and that's something we could look

1583
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:56,960
at expanding that with your new Aquatic

1584
01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:00,840
and wellness thank you

1585
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,080
thanks and we appreciate that you

1586
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,360
councelor help and sponsor skating at

1587
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,440
times too are there any other comments

1588
01:11:08,440 --> 01:11:10,480
um I'm sure that uh the manager would

1589
01:11:10,480 --> 01:11:13,360
welcome um any any feedback that that

1590
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,520
could come in uh prior to us receiving

1591
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:17,760
another report the recommendation before

1592
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:19,719
us right now is that Council receive the

1593
01:11:19,719 --> 01:11:21,400
draft Aquatic and Wellness Center

1594
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,440
operations and management plan report

1595
01:11:23,440 --> 01:11:27,910
for information all those in

1596
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:29,960
favor thank

1597
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:34,159
you our next uh agenda item is relating

1598
01:11:34,159 --> 01:11:37,360
to um the introduction to proposed

1599
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,719
levels of service for asset management

1600
01:11:39,719 --> 01:11:42,320
and I will ask the asset management

1601
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:45,239
supervisor Jessica Rogers to come up to

1602
01:11:45,239 --> 01:11:47,040
the mic and she's going to introduce the

1603
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:51,229
consultant thank you

1604
01:11:51,239 --> 01:11:53,480
Jessica uh thank you and through you

1605
01:11:53,480 --> 01:11:57,400
deputy mayor as outlined in our 2024

1606
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:58,960
business plan the town is in the

1607
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,840
beginning phases of a project to once

1608
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:04,960
again update our amp to meet the 2025

1609
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:24,149
requirements under the o

1610
01:12:24,159 --> 01:12:26,600
588-1714 public policy advice in the

1611
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,040
areas of Municipal Finance development

1612
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,120
planning demographic and economic

1613
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:34,040
forecasting and real estate valuations

1614
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,880
hemon's Municipal practice is extensive

1615
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,560
and is anchored by professionals who

1616
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:41,880
have considerable experience in both the

1617
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,159
municipal environment and private sector

1618
01:12:44,159 --> 01:12:46,159
the staff includes um Finance

1619
01:12:46,159 --> 01:12:48,280
professionals planners demographers real

1620
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,000
estate Specialists and

1621
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,360
economics the objectives of this project

1622
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,280
include identifying measurable levels of

1623
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:56,480
service developing ing tools for

1624
01:12:56,480 --> 01:12:58,639
tracking these measures receiving

1625
01:12:58,639 --> 01:13:00,760
resident input through both an online

1626
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,719
survey and a pic and crafting both asset

1627
01:13:03,719 --> 01:13:06,120
management and financial strategies I

1628
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:07,880
will now hand it over to Christopher

1629
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,840
belet and Andrew Marabella from hson

1630
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:12,960
Consulting to provide more information

1631
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:14,760
with regards to the proposed levels of

1632
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:16,880
service as part of our long-term

1633
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:18,560
business planning and how it relates to

1634
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:26,709
the regulation

1635
01:13:26,719 --> 01:13:28,760
thank you uh members of council um just

1636
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:30,679
to kind of start things off on some of

1637
01:13:30,679 --> 01:13:32,840
the topics for discussion uh we want to

1638
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:34,360
go through and kind of Define asset

1639
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,880
management and a quick overview uh for

1640
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,199
municipalities um we want a a kind of

1641
01:13:39,199 --> 01:13:41,600
overview of the regulatory requirements

1642
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:43,199
particularly or

1643
01:13:43,199 --> 01:13:45,239
58817 we're going to look at the town's

1644
01:13:45,239 --> 01:13:47,000
2024 Asset Management plan and the work

1645
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,760
the Town has done already um in terms of

1646
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:51,719
that level of service work as well as

1647
01:13:51,719 --> 01:13:53,520
the approach to the development of those

1648
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:55,639
proposed levels of service some of those

1649
01:13:55,639 --> 01:13:57,320
next

1650
01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:00,920
steps so to kind of Define um asset

1651
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,159
management for municipalities and and

1652
01:14:03,159 --> 01:14:05,360
sort of a simple perspective um asset

1653
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:07,159
management is the process of maintaining

1654
01:14:07,159 --> 01:14:09,679
Assets in the most cost-effective way um

1655
01:14:09,679 --> 01:14:11,120
we want to make sure that we're

1656
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:13,239
maximizing benefits to Residents uh

1657
01:14:13,239 --> 01:14:15,280
through the use of those assets we will

1658
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,000
make make sure that we're managing risks

1659
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,239
over the long term and as well ensuring

1660
01:14:19,239 --> 01:14:22,000
that the services are sustainable um and

1661
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:24,840
affordable as well ensuring that through

1662
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:26,800
uh through this uh sort of plan and as

1663
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:28,360
well through through a longer term

1664
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:30,120
planning

1665
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:33,040
period um an overview uh municipalities

1666
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:34,520
are responsible for ensuring

1667
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:36,199
infrastructures planned built and

1668
01:14:36,199 --> 01:14:38,840
maintained in a sustainable way that

1669
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,040
said the town has applied sound asset

1670
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:43,239
management principles and processes to

1671
01:14:43,239 --> 01:14:45,719
date uh from hemon's opinion the town is

1672
01:14:45,719 --> 01:14:48,159
well ahead of many other municipalities

1673
01:14:48,159 --> 01:14:50,360
of similar size uh you've developed a

1674
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:52,520
tenure Capital plan you have an

1675
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:53,760
infrastructure Levy that you've

1676
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:55,880
implemented so with that said you know

1677
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:57,520
the asset management plan becomes a

1678
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,199
useful tool for identifying um those

1679
01:15:00,199 --> 01:15:03,159
long-term infrastructure requirements

1680
01:15:03,159 --> 01:15:05,320
and planning how to manage those uh

1681
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:08,600
requirements uh today or starting

1682
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,960
today some objectives um the plan uh we

1683
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:13,280
want to provide staff and Council

1684
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:15,040
information to guide sustainable

1685
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:16,679
infrastructure investment decisions so

1686
01:15:16,679 --> 01:15:19,639
we are building upon um the the uh the

1687
01:15:19,639 --> 01:15:23,159
work from 2024 plan uh moving forward we

1688
01:15:23,159 --> 01:15:24,480
want to make sure we're meeting those

1689
01:15:24,480 --> 01:15:27,360
requirements of Ontario regulation 58817

1690
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,880
on the proposed level of service one

1691
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:32,120
other important component here um is

1692
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:34,080
having a readily available document to

1693
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:36,760
support those um uh future Federal grant

1694
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:39,440
applications and ccbf funding agreements

1695
01:15:39,440 --> 01:15:41,400
um as well that ask for that plan to be

1696
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,679
submitted as part of those applications

1697
01:15:43,679 --> 01:15:45,320
and the amp has to consider all assets

1698
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:47,480
owned by the town as well uh making sure

1699
01:15:47,480 --> 01:15:49,360
that we've included the core and noncore

1700
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:51,560
assets and building upon that exercise

1701
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:52,960
which the town has already done through

1702
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:56,239
that 24 plan

1703
01:15:56,239 --> 01:15:57,880
um the line of side of asset management

1704
01:15:57,880 --> 01:15:59,480
planning is sort of the framework the

1705
01:15:59,480 --> 01:16:02,280
town um is utilizing in order to develop

1706
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:03,800
uh the proposed level of service and as

1707
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:06,320
well the the existing uh sort of asset

1708
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:08,840
management plan it begins with uh the

1709
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:10,880
vision of council and as well as Council

1710
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,080
priorities those visions and those

1711
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:15,920
priorities help inform the policy the

1712
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:17,280
asset management policy that was

1713
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:19,639
developed a few years back and as well

1714
01:16:19,639 --> 01:16:21,719
as the asset management plan itself and

1715
01:16:21,719 --> 01:16:23,760
ultimately that plan the intention is

1716
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,080
that it helps and form those Capital

1717
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:28,000
programs the operations and maintenance

1718
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:29,880
budget and as well as any business plans

1719
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:31,880
going forward and by no means is the

1720
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:33,320
asset management plan intended to

1721
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:35,000
replace those processes but it's it's

1722
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:36,840
another tool in sort of the town's

1723
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,320
Arsenal to help plan for those long-term

1724
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:42,080
um asset obligations those last few

1725
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:44,400
pieces on those on those budget pieces

1726
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,320
will help inform the targets and the

1727
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,920
level of service that's being uh

1728
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:51,000
proposed as part of the exercise and as

1729
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,320
well as in that reporting uh help in

1730
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:56,040
that reporting of the levels of service

1731
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:57,800
going

1732
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:01,159
forward the timeline of the regulation

1733
01:17:01,159 --> 01:17:02,920
uh important to mention here that the

1734
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:06,440
town is up to dat um in terms of Meeting

1735
01:17:06,440 --> 01:17:08,159
those regulatory requirements of the

1736
01:17:08,159 --> 01:17:10,560
asset management plan back in 19 was a

1737
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:11,880
develop of the Strategic Asset

1738
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:13,560
Management policy which the town has in

1739
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:17,159
place and then in July 20 July 1st of 22

1740
01:17:17,159 --> 01:17:19,719
and then again in 24 was developing

1741
01:17:19,719 --> 01:17:21,639
those current levels of service for the

1742
01:17:21,639 --> 01:17:23,600
core assets and the non-core assets and

1743
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:25,440
the core assets like I mentioned kind of

1744
01:17:25,440 --> 01:17:27,080
covering the roads water Wastewater

1745
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:29,239
storm water Bridges and culs and so on

1746
01:17:29,239 --> 01:17:30,800
and those non-core assets being your

1747
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:32,880
other asset categories uh things like

1748
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:35,159
Vehicles equipment uh facilities and so

1749
01:17:35,159 --> 01:17:38,400
on so a good basis uh that the town has

1750
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:40,920
uh from Meeting those requirements going

1751
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:42,639
forward we want to meet the July 1st

1752
01:17:42,639 --> 01:17:45,800
2025 requirements that'll be the uh

1753
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:47,679
development of the proposed levels of

1754
01:17:47,679 --> 01:17:49,679
service that that we are talking about

1755
01:17:49,679 --> 01:17:52,360
today and that'll be for July 1st 2025

1756
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:54,440
and that process has already begun and

1757
01:17:54,440 --> 01:17:57,239
is isn't sort of moving forward um um

1758
01:17:57,239 --> 01:17:58,880
right

1759
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:01,560
now some of the required elements of the

1760
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:03,320
plan uh one important uh kind of

1761
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:05,120
starting point is the state of local

1762
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:07,719
infrastructure uh this this really

1763
01:18:07,719 --> 01:18:10,440
describes the the uh asset portfolio of

1764
01:18:10,440 --> 01:18:12,679
the town where are the assets what are

1765
01:18:12,679 --> 01:18:15,440
they worth what condition are they in um

1766
01:18:15,440 --> 01:18:17,080
what is the remaining service life and

1767
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:19,560
so on and these are important inputs to

1768
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:22,040
developing that level of service um the

1769
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:24,239
any discussions on risks Associated to

1770
01:18:24,239 --> 01:18:26,400
the plan as well as determining the life

1771
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:28,280
cycle activities and costs of

1772
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:30,560
undertaking um all you know the work

1773
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:32,199
that's proposed uh you know sort of

1774
01:18:32,199 --> 01:18:34,360
through the plan over the long term um

1775
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:35,840
so you know that like I mentioned the

1776
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:37,199
town has already developed that through

1777
01:18:37,199 --> 01:18:39,760
the 2024 Asset Management plan and those

1778
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,199
will will be that will be the framework

1779
01:18:42,199 --> 01:18:44,320
and the starting point to help inform

1780
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,440
the exercise on the proposed level of

1781
01:18:47,440 --> 01:18:49,800
service um municipalities are required

1782
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:51,480
to report on those levels of service for

1783
01:18:51,480 --> 01:18:53,639
all those assets um you know like I

1784
01:18:53,639 --> 01:18:55,480
mentioned the town has already undergone

1785
01:18:55,480 --> 01:18:57,840
and undertaken that first uh sort of

1786
01:18:57,840 --> 01:18:59,719
Step of reporting on those current

1787
01:18:59,719 --> 01:19:02,280
levels of service and what that means is

1788
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:03,679
um you know there is quite a bit of

1789
01:19:03,679 --> 01:19:05,560
information in the existing plan that we

1790
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:08,159
can draw upon this represents this table

1791
01:19:08,159 --> 01:19:10,239
represents a snapshot of the current

1792
01:19:10,239 --> 01:19:12,320
level of service that the town already

1793
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,120
put together uh these are not all the

1794
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:15,320
levels of service this is just a

1795
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,639
snapshot for illustration purposes but

1796
01:19:17,639 --> 01:19:19,679
what we wanted to point out is that the

1797
01:19:19,679 --> 01:19:21,840
basis for the levels of service will be

1798
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:23,800
based on this uh you know the proposed

1799
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:25,199
level of service will look to set

1800
01:19:25,199 --> 01:19:27,440
targets over the next 10e period or a

1801
01:19:27,440 --> 01:19:30,120
minimum 10year period for these types of

1802
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:31,639
measures and these measures are going to

1803
01:19:31,639 --> 01:19:35,280
be informed over the next uh few months

1804
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:37,760
uh through a variety or or different uh

1805
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:40,080
sort of uh uh sets of part of the

1806
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,480
process particularly in the consultation

1807
01:19:42,480 --> 01:19:45,280
and as well as analysis of the

1808
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,520
budget this slide represents sort of

1809
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,360
that process um we start off with a

1810
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:51,639
review of the current level of service

1811
01:19:51,639 --> 01:19:53,960
um that's uh happening uh in the next

1812
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:55,800
few days where sitting down with staff

1813
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:57,920
in order to undertake uh some formal

1814
01:19:57,920 --> 01:19:59,639
workshops with staff to understand the

1815
01:19:59,639 --> 01:20:01,159
current level of service understanding

1816
01:20:01,159 --> 01:20:03,320
the data understanding the feasibility

1817
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:05,320
of tracking those levels of service

1818
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:07,280
along with them we'll look to develop

1819
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:09,679
those proposed level of service targets

1820
01:20:09,679 --> 01:20:12,320
uh using uh sort of Staff knowledge the

1821
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:14,040
existing documentation the asset

1822
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:16,400
management plan the exit the the capital

1823
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,679
budget the operating budgets and so on

1824
01:20:18,679 --> 01:20:21,120
but that'll lead into consultation with

1825
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:23,400
uh or continued consultation with the

1826
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:25,520
public and Council uh there there is a

1827
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:28,120
consultation uh happening uh in the next

1828
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:29,960
uh couple weeks with the public and

1829
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,120
trying to gauge some of the sense uh

1830
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:34,440
from the public on the level of service

1831
01:20:34,440 --> 01:20:36,960
provided uh of those assets and as well

1832
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,719
as uh the process uh giving enough time

1833
01:20:39,719 --> 01:20:42,360
to provide Council uh the information

1834
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:44,000
that needed in order to sort of be

1835
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:45,520
informed on what those levels of service

1836
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:47,600
are and getting the the feedback from

1837
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,000
Council in order to move forward uh with

1838
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:51,880
the plan and finally we want to make

1839
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:53,840
sure we identify the cost to meet those

1840
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:55,320
proposed levels of service and if there

1841
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:58,719
are any risks Associated um to uh to the

1842
01:20:58,719 --> 01:21:00,760
plan and those costs will be largely

1843
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:02,199
informed through the good work that the

1844
01:21:02,199 --> 01:21:03,920
town is already done including the

1845
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:06,280
10year capital plan as a as a basis in

1846
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:07,960
order to understand what those targets

1847
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:10,560
could be based on that

1848
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:14,280
plan um last sort of a few ideas here um

1849
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:16,639
in understanding the uh life cycle

1850
01:21:16,639 --> 01:21:18,159
activities that support the level of

1851
01:21:18,159 --> 01:21:20,400
service so these are the activities that

1852
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:22,880
we do on our assets or or as part of the

1853
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:24,600
asset management best practices and in

1854
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:26,800
order to maintain um the levels of

1855
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:28,560
service the first one if you he being

1856
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,360
non-infrastructure Solutions really

1857
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:32,320
related to actions that the town may

1858
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:34,320
take not necessarily not necessarily

1859
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,560
related to direct work on assets but it

1860
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:38,239
might be related to management of the

1861
01:21:38,239 --> 01:21:40,360
assets things like development of an

1862
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:42,239
asset management plan or acquiring a new

1863
01:21:42,239 --> 01:21:43,920
piece of software to manage the

1864
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:46,639
inventory the expansion activities more

1865
01:21:46,639 --> 01:21:48,760
traditionally related for municipalities

1866
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:51,400
on the growth related infrastructure so

1867
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:53,560
kind of those first round costs um of

1868
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:55,320
growth related infr structure would

1869
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:56,800
would be what we would call in the asset

1870
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,760
management world is expansion activities

1871
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:01,639
the maintenance activities more so

1872
01:22:01,639 --> 01:22:04,080
related to works on an ongoing basis to

1873
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,239
maintain those assets typically captured

1874
01:22:06,239 --> 01:22:08,320
or mostly captured in the town's

1875
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:10,360
operating budget and that includes

1876
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:12,080
things like reactive maintenance you

1877
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:14,679
know as an asset uh either breaks down

1878
01:22:14,679 --> 01:22:16,760
or requires immediate repair that's

1879
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:19,560
addressed through the operating

1880
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:22,320
budget on the uh uh sort of the last

1881
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:24,520
three categories here we have renewal

1882
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:27,000
Rehabilitation and replacement more so

1883
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,040
related uh to the capital budget those

1884
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:30,960
are your traditional type capital

1885
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:33,440
projects renewal Rehabilitation more so

1886
01:22:33,440 --> 01:22:36,480
repair type uh um uh work things like

1887
01:22:36,480 --> 01:22:38,880
Road repavement or perhaps repairing

1888
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:41,800
components um of a facility and the town

1889
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:43,440
undertakes preventative maintenance

1890
01:22:43,440 --> 01:22:45,360
through the capital budget uh which

1891
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:46,960
would include a combination of you know

1892
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:49,440
renewal Rehabilitation or replacement as

1893
01:22:49,440 --> 01:22:51,840
determined as as sort of needed those

1894
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:54,560
replacement activities are more so um uh

1895
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:56,800
related to those likeforlike uh type

1896
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,120
Replacements replacing your vehicles for

1897
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:00,760
example or replacing a piece of

1898
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:02,960
equipment and finally the disposal

1899
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:05,239
activities any activity related uh to

1900
01:23:05,239 --> 01:23:07,120
disposing of an asset that may

1901
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:09,719
necessarily have a cost and you know one

1902
01:23:09,719 --> 01:23:11,639
one important component here is that the

1903
01:23:11,639 --> 01:23:13,560
town is already aiming to move to a

1904
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:15,679
larger share of preventative work um

1905
01:23:15,679 --> 01:23:18,320
over the next few years um in in in sort

1906
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:21,080
of in a way in order to make sure that

1907
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:22,960
uh that assets are continued to be

1908
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:25,360
maintained sustainably and by no means

1909
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:27,199
is um the the actions that are

1910
01:23:27,199 --> 01:23:29,400
represented here um represent actions

1911
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:30,960
that the town already takes as part of

1912
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:32,199
the capital budget these are just

1913
01:23:32,199 --> 01:23:35,159
categories that facilitate um the

1914
01:23:35,159 --> 01:23:36,840
exercise and developing that proposed

1915
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:39,120
level of service and by no means is this

1916
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:41,280
uh intended to rep replace the budget

1917
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:43,360
process but it's a tool to help inform

1918
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:46,520
that process um in the future as

1919
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:49,440
well so in terms of next steps uh hamson

1920
01:23:49,440 --> 01:23:51,159
and stown staff have already initiated

1921
01:23:51,159 --> 01:23:52,639
the background work needed to develop

1922
01:23:52,639 --> 01:23:54,159
the proposed level of service so like I

1923
01:23:54,159 --> 01:23:56,120
mentioned in the next couple of weeks uh

1924
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:57,960
there are workshops with staff in order

1925
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:00,280
to be able to get more so the technical

1926
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:02,960
information in order uh to develop those

1927
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:04,960
measures uh there is a consultation

1928
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:06,520
session with the public scheduled for

1929
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:08,239
November 20th so that's uh sort of

1930
01:24:08,239 --> 01:24:10,280
coming up but with another session in

1931
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:13,280
early 2025 to sort of gauge um The

1932
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:15,920
public's uh opinion on some of those uh

1933
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:17,239
sort of levels of service for some of

1934
01:24:17,239 --> 01:24:19,960
those assets a final report is expected

1935
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:23,080
uh to cancel by the end of q1 2025 uh

1936
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:24,960
and that is at the same time well in

1937
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:27,480
advance of that regulatory requirement

1938
01:24:27,480 --> 01:24:30,400
of July 1st 2025 but at the same time

1939
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:32,760
giving Council enough time and us coming

1940
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:34,360
back to Council in order to present that

1941
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:36,520
information and providing um enough time

1942
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:39,040
for Council to have um a comment and

1943
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,480
opinion on that for us to reflect in the

1944
01:24:41,480 --> 01:24:44,119
in the overall uh sort of

1945
01:24:44,119 --> 01:24:46,320
product uh with that said uh that

1946
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:48,280
concludes uh the formal presentation and

1947
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:49,719
I'd be happy to answer any questions you

1948
01:24:49,719 --> 01:24:51,719
may

1949
01:24:51,719 --> 01:24:55,520
have thank you for that the the public

1950
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:57,800
um consultation process that you

1951
01:24:57,800 --> 01:24:59,480
mentioned on November the 20th that's

1952
01:24:59,480 --> 01:25:01,320
Wednesday November the 20th it's at 5:00

1953
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:03,159
pm at the Bruce County Museum is that

1954
01:25:03,159 --> 01:25:05,800
correct that is correct thank you um we

1955
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:08,360
have a recommendation um before us that

1956
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:10,719
Council receive the introduction to

1957
01:25:10,719 --> 01:25:12,320
propose levels of service for Asset

1958
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:14,600
Management um just to receive it for

1959
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:16,280
information I'll open the floor for

1960
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:22,350
questions or comments

1961
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:27,189
now I have a couple

1962
01:25:27,199 --> 01:25:30,679
I wanted to ask um there was a a comment

1963
01:25:30,679 --> 01:25:32,480
on one of the slides and it's probably a

1964
01:25:32,480 --> 01:25:36,239
question for uh um perhaps the U manager

1965
01:25:36,239 --> 01:25:39,600
of engineering or or the um director of

1966
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:41,440
development um there's a comment in

1967
01:25:41,440 --> 01:25:44,600
there that the bridge average condition

1968
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:48,400
had an index number of 57 out of a 100

1969
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:51,280
um that seems that it's just above

1970
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:54,000
halfway um it was the one that kind of

1971
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:56,239
was the most dramatic so I just would

1972
01:25:56,239 --> 01:25:58,600
appreciate a comment as to what that

1973
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:01,119
means and and what it it uh represents

1974
01:26:01,119 --> 01:26:03,040
in terms of the future planning in in

1975
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:05,320
terms of taking care of B

1976
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:07,920
Bridges um through you Deputy Mayor and

1977
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:11,360
I can answer a bit and provide other

1978
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:13,159
answers if Rahul wants to step in as

1979
01:26:13,159 --> 01:26:16,440
well so um that number came from our

1980
01:26:16,440 --> 01:26:19,040
2022 Asset Management plan so it was

1981
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:22,280
based on the um Bridge condition um

1982
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:25,639
study that was done in that year um and

1983
01:26:25,639 --> 01:26:27,239
at that time we did have a couple

1984
01:26:27,239 --> 01:26:29,000
bridges that were closed so you have to

1985
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:30,360
understand that those closed bridges

1986
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:32,719
would have a condition index of zero

1987
01:26:32,719 --> 01:26:34,920
which would bring down our overall

1988
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:38,000
average um we completed a Bridge

1989
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:41,040
condition assessment um this year we

1990
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:43,679
actually just received the report um so

1991
01:26:43,679 --> 01:26:45,480
in our next iteration of the asset

1992
01:26:45,480 --> 01:26:47,199
management plan we will be updating

1993
01:26:47,199 --> 01:26:50,159
these numbers and is likely we'll see an

1994
01:26:50,159 --> 01:26:52,639
improvement thank you the other one that

1995
01:26:52,639 --> 01:26:55,320
caught my eye was that um the unpaved

1996
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:57,800
roads in our community were noted as

1997
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:01,400
poor um same situation you've done

1998
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:04,040
another um condition report and we can

1999
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:06,560
expect to hear more yes um and through

2000
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,360
you Deputy Mayor we completed a um

2001
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:11,119
pavement condition Index this year as

2002
01:27:11,119 --> 01:27:13,639
well which will give us a better um

2003
01:27:13,639 --> 01:27:16,239
understanding of our pave roads um with

2004
01:27:16,239 --> 01:27:18,159
unpaved roads because they are gravel it

2005
01:27:18,159 --> 01:27:21,000
is relatively hard to actually come up

2006
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:23,800
with a decent um condition reporting

2007
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:26,080
system for those but I would expect that

2008
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:27,639
we would see an improvement based on our

2009
01:27:27,639 --> 01:27:29,040
maintenance

2010
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:32,040
strategies thank you and my apolog my

2011
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:34,360
apology for suggesting that someone else

2012
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:36,000
needed to answer questions you're you're

2013
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:39,040
always very good yeah any anything else

2014
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:40,320
councelor

2015
01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:42,400
mayette thank you

2016
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:44,000
Madame

2017
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:46,040
chair we still have a couple bridges

2018
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,960
that are closed and so uh I know we've

2019
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,040
done some work on concession six bridge

2020
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:53,040
and we've done some work on the county

2021
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:55,040
road 17 Bridge

2022
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:58,480
um but when we have those bridges closed

2023
01:27:58,480 --> 01:28:00,880
I'm hoping they stay in the plan for

2024
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:03,560
future Rehabilitation so I don't really

2025
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:04,920
see that number coming up with regards

2026
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:10,440
to the uh gravel roads um we we did do a

2027
01:28:10,440 --> 01:28:12,840
uh a trial run I believe it was three

2028
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:16,119
years ago on on Side Road uh 1819 where

2029
01:28:16,119 --> 01:28:19,159
it goes from the Town Line to one of our

2030
01:28:19,159 --> 01:28:21,280
new Bridges the newest bridge in SOI

2031
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:22,800
Shores which is

2032
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:25,199
the the name of it eludes me right at

2033
01:28:25,199 --> 01:28:26,600
the moment

2034
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:30,679
um but we we uh we did a tar and chip

2035
01:28:30,679 --> 01:28:32,719
for half of the concession and left

2036
01:28:32,719 --> 01:28:34,360
gravel on the other half and I would

2037
01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:36,840
encourage all counselors if you're ever

2038
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:39,480
taking a drive down to Paisley and Point

2039
01:28:39,480 --> 01:28:43,400
South to come around uh 1819 and drive

2040
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:45,600
it right down to Across the new bridge

2041
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:46,960
or to the Town Line and see the

2042
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:49,800
difference between what three years of

2043
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:52,000
tan chip compared to three years of

2044
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:54,560
gravel looks like and it's remarkable

2045
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:58,400
how well it stood up now that is a non

2046
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:00,280
maintained Road in the wintertime so it

2047
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:03,280
doesn't see snowplow use but I would say

2048
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:05,679
that the condition of half of that road

2049
01:29:05,679 --> 01:29:09,159
is is very good and uh the other half

2050
01:29:09,159 --> 01:29:11,480
not so

2051
01:29:11,480 --> 01:29:14,440
good the CEO wants to comment yeah

2052
01:29:14,440 --> 01:29:17,679
through you madam chair I just would um

2053
01:29:17,679 --> 01:29:18,960
because we have a new director of

2054
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:20,360
operations I'm just going to call his

2055
01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:22,560
attention to that piece that was part of

2056
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:23,840
our business plan from two or three

2057
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:25,920
years years ago that we probably do owe

2058
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:28,400
a report back to counsil on the status

2059
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:30,280
of that uh trial that we did on that

2060
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:33,400
road so thank you for the

2061
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:39,310
reminder any other comments councelor

2062
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:42,920
divinsky thank you acting mayor uh we

2063
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:45,119
hear in this report which is an

2064
01:29:45,119 --> 01:29:47,760
excellent report by the way and all my

2065
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:51,239
questions have pretty well been answered

2066
01:29:51,239 --> 01:29:55,760
um we hear how well we're doing because

2067
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:58,440
we're ahead of the game and of course

2068
01:29:58,440 --> 01:30:00,800
that reflects on the staff and I would

2069
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:02,360
like to think to a certain extent on

2070
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:06,920
Council as well but primarily on

2071
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:11,119
staff um but they still say there's

2072
01:30:11,119 --> 01:30:14,400
hempson says there's still lots to do

2073
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:16,920
and we have to we should get it done by

2074
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:19,280
a certain date because the province says

2075
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:20,760
we

2076
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:25,000
should so my question is simple yes

2077
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:27,840
no we aren't going to hear that we have

2078
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:30,320
to add another staff member because of

2079
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:32,360
this are

2080
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:36,040
we uh through you Deputy Mayor no I I

2081
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:38,159
don't think we're going to see um the

2082
01:30:38,159 --> 01:30:40,440
recommendation of adding staff to the

2083
01:30:40,440 --> 01:30:43,960
asset management GIS team um I think

2084
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:46,800
what we're going to hear is um whether

2085
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:49,040
or not we're on track to continue to

2086
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:52,320
meet the goals that we as a town have in

2087
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:55,280
terms of our assets

2088
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:57,600
okay you said I don't think so you've

2089
01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:00,800
left it I mean I would love another

2090
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:01,560
staff

2091
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:03,920
member we'll get an additional comment

2092
01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:05,960
from the ceao yeah thank you through you

2093
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:08,119
madam chair what you have in front of

2094
01:31:08,119 --> 01:31:10,320
you tonight is to look at what kind of

2095
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:12,119
service levels we want to set as a

2096
01:31:12,119 --> 01:31:14,320
council for our assets it really doesn't

2097
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:16,520
have to do with the Staffing that's

2098
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:19,440
managing um that process and that

2099
01:31:19,440 --> 01:31:22,000
reporting to the province of Ontario um

2100
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:23,520
so I I would offer that the two are a

2101
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:26,000
bit dis connected uh counselor but we're

2102
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:27,920
really looking at what service level you

2103
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:29,920
want to set related to the assets that

2104
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:32,360
you have in front of you the table that

2105
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:34,159
was on the screen before I understand

2106
01:31:34,159 --> 01:31:37,840
that CAO but you see a report like this

2107
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:40,880
and in your expertise and anybody else's

2108
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:42,600
you can say oh we're going to need help

2109
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:46,880
with this and I'm all I'm asking is has

2110
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:49,320
that been thought of another staff

2111
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:52,360
member to help with this I don't think

2112
01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:54,840
we need it but

2113
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:57,360
through you madam chair I I'm guess I'm

2114
01:31:57,360 --> 01:31:59,719
trying to air quote around the this in

2115
01:31:59,719 --> 01:32:01,679
that statement counselor and the this is

2116
01:32:01,679 --> 01:32:04,600
really our assets so we had a a list up

2117
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:06,760
on the screen there maybe it can be put

2118
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:09,280
up there again but the variety of assets

2119
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:11,320
that you see in front of you are managed

2120
01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:13,480
by multiple divisions within our

2121
01:32:13,480 --> 01:32:15,880
organization so throughout operations

2122
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:18,480
engineering those various groups provide

2123
01:32:18,480 --> 01:32:20,080
the level of Maintenance that we want to

2124
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:23,000
see on those assets so it really it's

2125
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:25,280
hard to draw a direct line between

2126
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:28,280
Staffing and the asset but we run um

2127
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:30,400
Asset Management asset maintenance

2128
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:32,239
across all of our divisions whether or

2129
01:32:32,239 --> 01:32:34,800
not that be a facility like the pool or

2130
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:38,199
a road or a bridge so um this the

2131
01:32:38,199 --> 01:32:39,679
question directly to the asset

2132
01:32:39,679 --> 01:32:42,880
management team it is a group made up of

2133
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:46,080
three members um that provide not only

2134
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:48,679
asset management but GIS and again we

2135
01:32:48,679 --> 01:32:50,840
can see how far they are ahead in the

2136
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:52,080
province of Ontario with the work

2137
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:53,639
they're doing so there's no intent to

2138
01:32:53,639 --> 01:32:55,880
ask for additional staff but again I'm

2139
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:57,520
just trying to put my finger quotes

2140
01:32:57,520 --> 01:32:59,760
around what you mean by this and again

2141
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:01,400
we're talking about the level of service

2142
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:04,360
related to the assets themselves and you

2143
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:06,159
said what I wanted to

2144
01:33:06,159 --> 01:33:08,239
hear thank you and I didn't mean to put

2145
01:33:08,239 --> 01:33:11,400
you on the SP counc helping thank you

2146
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:13,960
Deputy Mayor and through you uh how much

2147
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:16,679
was this consultation fee for this

2148
01:33:16,679 --> 01:33:20,109
report that's in front of

2149
01:33:20,119 --> 01:33:24,000
us it it was a 20

2150
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:25,320
one was

2151
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:27,560
$20,000 yeah and it was part of the

2152
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:31,280
business plan last year thank you well

2153
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:34,840
the followup so how much will the whole

2154
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:41,109
consultation end up costing 35,000 thank

2155
01:33:41,119 --> 01:33:43,440
you seeing no other comments the

2156
01:33:43,440 --> 01:33:45,119
recommendation is that Council receive

2157
01:33:45,119 --> 01:33:47,080
the introduction to proposed levels of

2158
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:49,320
service for Asset Management report for

2159
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:50,960
information all in

2160
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:54,679
favor that's carried thank you very much

2161
01:33:54,679 --> 01:33:58,440
Jessica our next um item staff report is

2162
01:33:58,440 --> 01:34:01,080
about the Ontario community information

2163
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:03,119
or sorry Ontario community

2164
01:34:03,119 --> 01:34:07,119
infrastructure fund oif update and we

2165
01:34:07,119 --> 01:34:09,280
will look to Daniel weter the Chief

2166
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:11,080
Financial Officer treasurer for that

2167
01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:14,000
report I think Daniel's um on Zoom go

2168
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:16,679
ahead Daniel yes I am thank you uh

2169
01:34:16,679 --> 01:34:19,320
acting mayor Huber uh this report

2170
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:22,840
follows up on a July 2024 report upd and

2171
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:24,800
Council on changes to the Ontario

2172
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:26,520
community infrastructure fund

2173
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:29,400
allocations for the town of sing Shores

2174
01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:31,159
at the time Council were informed of

2175
01:34:31,159 --> 01:34:33,360
changes to the methodology that resulted

2176
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:36,679
in a maximum 15% decrease to the town's

2177
01:34:36,679 --> 01:34:40,080
2024 allocation the town has now

2178
01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:43,440
received its 2025 allocation which again

2179
01:34:43,440 --> 01:34:46,360
shows a maximum 15% decrease from last

2180
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:48,880
year's the town has been working to

2181
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:50,239
understand these changes throughout the

2182
01:34:50,239 --> 01:34:52,520
year and recently engaged Wellington

2183
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:55,280
Dupont to assess assisting communication

2184
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:57,119
with the ministry with Ministry of

2185
01:34:57,119 --> 01:34:59,760
infrastructure staff after extensive

2186
01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:02,239
efforts uh some responses have been

2187
01:35:02,239 --> 01:35:03,840
received from Ministry staff but there

2188
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:06,000
is still uh Missing detail that would

2189
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:08,280
help further explain causes of the

2190
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:11,560
decrease uh separately uh Town staff

2191
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:12,480
have

2192
01:35:12,480 --> 01:35:15,560
completed uh an analysis of the publicly

2193
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:18,920
listed oif allocations amongst all

2194
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:21,000
municipalities and this data has been

2195
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:22,880
crucial in identifying that the impact

2196
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:24,400
of the methodology

2197
01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:26,560
methodology change has not been limited

2198
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:30,199
to this to the town of saging Shores uh

2199
01:35:30,199 --> 01:35:32,400
138 out of

2200
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:37,800
426 re recipients uh saw a maximum 15%

2201
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:41,639
decrease from their 2023 to their 2024

2202
01:35:41,639 --> 01:35:44,920
allocation and 89 recipients have also

2203
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:48,639
seen a maximum 15% decrease from their

2204
01:35:48,639 --> 01:35:51,080
2024 to their

2205
01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:54,199
2025 allocation or sorry seen seeing a

2206
01:35:54,199 --> 01:35:56,840
maximum decrease in both of those

2207
01:35:56,840 --> 01:36:00,960
years uh so although exact reasons for

2208
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:02,719
all of the exact reasons for the

2209
01:36:02,719 --> 01:36:04,440
decrease in the town's allocation are

2210
01:36:04,440 --> 01:36:07,400
not yet fully identified the previous

2211
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:10,520
allocation methodology involved uh very

2212
01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:13,119
intricate calculations that were based

2213
01:36:13,119 --> 01:36:16,040
on financial information returns of

2214
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:18,560
municipalities the estimates from that

2215
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:21,760
data uh can vary significantly depending

2216
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:25,480
on each mun municip Al's quality of data

2217
01:36:25,480 --> 01:36:28,000
their depreciation methods their

2218
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:31,199
tangible Capital asset asset policies

2219
01:36:31,199 --> 01:36:32,760
and it's possible that previous

2220
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:34,719
calculations for the town's

2221
01:36:34,719 --> 01:36:37,320
infrastructure may have been relatively

2222
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:39,840
higher than the true infrastructure

2223
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:43,320
values when compared to the change that

2224
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:45,320
other municipalities saw in that

2225
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:48,719
methodology change uh So based on the

2226
01:36:48,719 --> 01:36:50,639
most recent notice from The Province the

2227
01:36:50,639 --> 01:36:54,719
current projection for future o payments

2228
01:36:54,719 --> 01:36:56,199
uh is

2229
01:36:56,199 --> 01:36:59,119
74,000 that that's the end point that we

2230
01:36:59,119 --> 01:37:02,199
would reach in

2231
01:37:02,199 --> 01:37:04,760
20207 uh and that is approximately $1

2232
01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:07,400
million per year over the long term

2233
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:10,679
lower than what was included in the 2024

2234
01:37:10,679 --> 01:37:13,360
business plan options to deal with this

2235
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:15,840
funding issue will be included in the

2236
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:22,030
2025 business plan for council's

2237
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:23,880
consideration thank you very much much

2238
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:27,239
Daniel um do we have any Vice Deputy

2239
01:37:27,239 --> 01:37:29,719
Mayor y thank you Deputy Mayor and just

2240
01:37:29,719 --> 01:37:33,520
so I'm clear Daniel um so when we when

2241
01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:35,360
we last heard the report I thought there

2242
01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:39,599
was going to be a a decrease of of one

2243
01:37:39,599 --> 01:37:41,440
one let me think here now it would have

2244
01:37:41,440 --> 01:37:42,960
been

2245
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:46,320
74,000 um right now it's you're looking

2246
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:49,080
at a decrease of 223,000 if if I got

2247
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:52,360
that right that it's actually $500,000

2248
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:56,080
lower than what what was anticipated is

2249
01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:58,159
that do I have that

2250
01:37:58,159 --> 01:37:59,840
right

2251
01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:03,320
the the original so our

2252
01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:06,159
2023 uh projection was a was

2253
01:38:06,159 --> 01:38:09,560
approximately 1.7 million or sorry our

2254
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:12,800
original 2024 projection was about 1.7

2255
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:15,080
million and that was based on our

2256
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:19,400
historical uh our actual allocation in

2257
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:24,760
2024 was just over 1.4 million and our

2258
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:28,280
2025 allocation is just over 1.2 million

2259
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:31,880
so yeah like to date we're down about

2260
01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:35,080
500,000 um but future years it's

2261
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:37,520
anticipated that

2262
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:39,960
uh that's that's good so I did

2263
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:42,280
understand it correctly based from the

2264
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:45,560
report in August this is $500,000 better

2265
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:48,119
than what we anticipated

2266
01:38:48,119 --> 01:38:51,199
and no I'm got that right that's what I

2267
01:38:51,199 --> 01:38:53,599
meant down that's what I meant low did I

2268
01:38:53,599 --> 01:38:56,000
better I meant lower but in a better in

2269
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:58,400
a better position than what was

2270
01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:00,760
anticipated in August

2271
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:05,040
correct no it's uh it's no it's a it's a

2272
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:09,080
decrease even from from July's report um

2273
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:13,040
our allocation is show the 2025 notice

2274
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:15,560
from The Province showed an even lower

2275
01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:18,800
amount than uh what we understood in

2276
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:21,880
July okay the number we just looked

2277
01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:25,639
looked about 5 $500,000 different

2278
01:39:25,639 --> 01:39:27,480
different than what what we were told

2279
01:39:27,480 --> 01:39:30,040
back a few months ago that's what I

2280
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:31,320
that's how I understood

2281
01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:35,320
it um but anyways um do this is this

2282
01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:37,320
number a new number reflected in the

2283
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:39,679
2025 operating

2284
01:39:39,679 --> 01:39:43,880
budget it is reflected in the 2025

2285
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:47,560
business plan uh and as stated in the

2286
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:49,719
report there'll be options for Council

2287
01:39:49,719 --> 01:39:53,920
to consider um so it's included in the

2288
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:57,320
in the business plan um but with

2289
01:39:57,320 --> 01:39:59,400
different ways of of

2290
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:03,830
achieving um that funding

2291
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:07,080
Gap councilor

2292
01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:11,159
Grace thank you Madame Deputy Mayor um

2293
01:40:11,159 --> 01:40:14,679
thank you Daniel for the report um

2294
01:40:14,679 --> 01:40:18,320
obviously this is disappointing and uh I

2295
01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:21,520
know we've been trying to get some

2296
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:24,360
specific reasons about why this

2297
01:40:24,360 --> 01:40:26,800
is um

2298
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:30,440
happening um is there anything we can do

2299
01:40:30,440 --> 01:40:34,440
to keep this from happening or are we

2300
01:40:34,440 --> 01:40:38,080
just destined uh is this a combination

2301
01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:39,000
of

2302
01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:43,560
our um perhaps a factor of our median

2303
01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:46,119
median household income

2304
01:40:46,119 --> 01:40:50,320
and um our existing infrastructure the

2305
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:53,280
value of our existing infrastructure is

2306
01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:55,679
is there any any anything we can be

2307
01:40:55,679 --> 01:41:00,669
doing uh to keep this from

2308
01:41:00,679 --> 01:41:03,520
happening so I don't know if I can speak

2309
01:41:03,520 --> 01:41:06,199
to the full answer there in terms of

2310
01:41:06,199 --> 01:41:07,560
what can be done in terms of

2311
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:09,400
communications with other levels of

2312
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:12,599
government um in terms of the I want to

2313
01:41:12,599 --> 01:41:16,199
emphasize it is a Formula driven change

2314
01:41:16,199 --> 01:41:18,400
it is not a decision of the province or

2315
01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:22,599
a decision it is a Formula driven change

2316
01:41:22,599 --> 01:41:26,320
where there using they previously were

2317
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:29,639
using assumptions based on historical

2318
01:41:29,639 --> 01:41:33,520
data and now they have uh moved to a

2319
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:37,760
methodology that the attempt is to use

2320
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:40,040
current self-reported data from

2321
01:41:40,040 --> 01:41:41,440
municipalities on how much

2322
01:41:41,440 --> 01:41:44,520
infrastructure that they have uh through

2323
01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:46,520
their Asset Management

2324
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:49,639
plans um one of the important things to

2325
01:41:49,639 --> 01:41:51,719
note that that I've come across in this

2326
01:41:51,719 --> 01:41:55,000
is the the formula it's self attempts to

2327
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:57,000
adjust for the infrastructure needs of

2328
01:41:57,000 --> 01:41:57,679
the

2329
01:41:57,679 --> 01:42:02,080
communities uh so rural communities that

2330
01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:05,119
have a lot of bridges and have a long a

2331
01:42:05,119 --> 01:42:07,599
lot of paved roads a lot of water sewer

2332
01:42:07,599 --> 01:42:10,760
infrastructure over long stretches um

2333
01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:13,400
are going to see relatively higher per

2334
01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:19,080
capita payments than urban areas uh and

2335
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:20,920
that's not necessarily A change but as

2336
01:42:20,920 --> 01:42:23,599
they change the methodology

2337
01:42:23,599 --> 01:42:26,639
um the intent is that it's a truer

2338
01:42:26,639 --> 01:42:28,360
reflection of the infrastructure needs

2339
01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:31,719
of the community um so to answer your

2340
01:42:31,719 --> 01:42:33,760
question it it is a Formula driven thing

2341
01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:37,000
in terms of Engagement with other um

2342
01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:41,199
levels of of government um perhaps um

2343
01:42:41,199 --> 01:42:46,870
someone else may want to to comment on

2344
01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:49,520
that I don't see anybody else stepping

2345
01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:53,560
up to the plate but are the other

2346
01:42:53,560 --> 01:42:55,000
members of

2347
01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:57,520
council councelor

2348
01:42:57,520 --> 01:43:00,000
hin I'm not interested in answering that

2349
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:01,560
question I have a different question

2350
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:02,920
just to be

2351
01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:06,000
clear I I had a constituent ask me this

2352
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:08,199
and I know I've asked this before why

2353
01:43:08,199 --> 01:43:11,360
are we using Wellington Dupont to talk

2354
01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:14,080
to the government like you know we're

2355
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:16,719
they're their tier there's the

2356
01:43:16,719 --> 01:43:19,400
government you know we're a tier of

2357
01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:21,400
government why do we have to go through

2358
01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:24,440
a consultant to talk talk to the

2359
01:43:24,440 --> 01:43:27,400
government why are we doing that thank

2360
01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:30,520
you through you madam chair Wellington

2361
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:32,840
Dupont was hired in order to help us

2362
01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:35,000
with Grant applications for various

2363
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:36,679
infrastructure projects including the

2364
01:43:36,679 --> 01:43:38,960
Aquatic and Wellness Center as part of

2365
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:42,440
that contract they've offered to elevate

2366
01:43:42,440 --> 01:43:44,119
um certain issues that we bring to the

2367
01:43:44,119 --> 01:43:45,719
table in addition to that work that

2368
01:43:45,719 --> 01:43:49,040
they're doing for us so after I I think

2369
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:50,719
it would be fair to say Daniel after

2370
01:43:50,719 --> 01:43:53,119
several months of our finance team

2371
01:43:53,119 --> 01:43:56,400
trying to reach out to staff at the

2372
01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:58,480
ministry we felt it was important to

2373
01:43:58,480 --> 01:44:00,159
bring it to Wellington Dupont which

2374
01:44:00,159 --> 01:44:01,679
allows us to elevate it to the

2375
01:44:01,679 --> 01:44:03,360
ministerial level so we're talking now

2376
01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:05,239
to the minister through them as opposed

2377
01:44:05,239 --> 01:44:07,280
to staff to staff so we're trying we're

2378
01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:09,000
trying to elevate it to a political

2379
01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:12,040
issue so it's the same as you would see

2380
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:14,239
in the work that we do in our advocacy

2381
01:44:14,239 --> 01:44:16,639
when we go to Roma and so that is one of

2382
01:44:16,639 --> 01:44:18,119
the things that we've highlighted this

2383
01:44:18,119 --> 01:44:20,000
year to take to Roma is a discussion on

2384
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:22,360
the ocif funding and what's happening to

2385
01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:24,239
the town of sing shes through that new

2386
01:44:24,239 --> 01:44:26,440
formula as Daniel

2387
01:44:26,440 --> 01:44:29,159
described yeah uh so I'll add on to that

2388
01:44:29,159 --> 01:44:32,840
I working with um Ministry staff prior

2389
01:44:32,840 --> 01:44:34,800
to the engagement of Wellington Dupont

2390
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:38,080
was certainly um uh

2391
01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:40,280
frustrating process I I think it was

2392
01:44:40,280 --> 01:44:41,880
helpful to get the attention of The

2393
01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:45,560
Minister's office and um I want to re

2394
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:47,800
redo on my response in terms of whether

2395
01:44:47,800 --> 01:44:49,480
anything can be done I I'll just say

2396
01:44:49,480 --> 01:44:51,840
that I don't necessarily believe

2397
01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:53,679
anything can be

2398
01:44:53,679 --> 01:44:56,040
uh done to change the formula uh we are

2399
01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:58,080
working with uh the asset management

2400
01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:00,159
team to ensure that we are reporting as

2401
01:45:00,159 --> 01:45:02,040
much infrastructure through the

2402
01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:04,960
self-reported template as possible so as

2403
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:07,960
um as staff uh from a finance and asset

2404
01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:10,320
management perspective we will be trying

2405
01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:15,239
to ensure full accurate data that um

2406
01:45:15,239 --> 01:45:18,520
give uh gives us the best opportunity

2407
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:21,440
for the formula to reflect uh payment

2408
01:45:21,440 --> 01:45:25,990
towards our infrastructure needs

2409
01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:27,440
councilor

2410
01:45:27,440 --> 01:45:30,960
M thank you Deputy Mayor

2411
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:33,840
um I watched an interview with the

2412
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:37,840
minister of finance a few days ago uh

2413
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:40,080
interviewed by uh Steve pacon who does a

2414
01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:42,920
great interview by the way um and and

2415
01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:44,239
they were talking about the financial

2416
01:45:44,239 --> 01:45:46,599
situation in Ontario and and he was

2417
01:45:46,599 --> 01:45:50,199
describing to the interviewer how

2418
01:45:50,199 --> 01:45:52,159
wonderful and Rosy the situation is in

2419
01:45:52,159 --> 01:45:55,040
Ontario and and then in fact we're on

2420
01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:58,199
the way within maybe two years of having

2421
01:45:58,199 --> 01:46:01,080
a balanced budget in Ontario and and the

2422
01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:03,480
the news was so good that they're uh

2423
01:46:03,480 --> 01:46:05,560
they're planning on giving a a check of

2424
01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:08,679
$200 to every man woman and child in

2425
01:46:08,679 --> 01:46:11,199
Ontario next year but it's not to buy

2426
01:46:11,199 --> 01:46:12,719
votes they made that quite clear it's

2427
01:46:12,719 --> 01:46:16,159
not to buy votes but um I would think I

2428
01:46:16,159 --> 01:46:18,080
I hope that at Roma we get a chance to

2429
01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:19,679
and I'm sure there'll be other

2430
01:46:19,679 --> 01:46:23,199
municipalities all looks like half that

2431
01:46:23,199 --> 01:46:26,320
have had decreases in this ocif funding

2432
01:46:26,320 --> 01:46:27,760
we'll we'll try and make the point and

2433
01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:29,119
if I get the chance I'll get up to the

2434
01:46:29,119 --> 01:46:31,599
microphone and make the point also that

2435
01:46:31,599 --> 01:46:34,360
um you know sending out checks for

2436
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:36,920
$200 to people who are not expecting it

2437
01:46:36,920 --> 01:46:39,400
or or in in some cases people who don't

2438
01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:41,880
need it in a lot of cases like I don't

2439
01:46:41,880 --> 01:46:44,360
think $200 is going to change my

2440
01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:46,599
lifestyle in any way substantially or

2441
01:46:46,599 --> 01:46:49,480
not um but they're they're choosing to

2442
01:46:49,480 --> 01:46:51,960
do that with this money as opposed to

2443
01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:54,760
reinvesting the money into good things

2444
01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:56,159
like roads and bridges and

2445
01:46:56,159 --> 01:46:58,960
infrastructure in in our community so um

2446
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:00,239
I was going to suggest maybe that we

2447
01:47:00,239 --> 01:47:01,639
write a letter to the minister but I

2448
01:47:01,639 --> 01:47:03,719
think we're only a little way ways away

2449
01:47:03,719 --> 01:47:05,679
from Roma and I'm sure this is going to

2450
01:47:05,679 --> 01:47:08,280
be a Hot Topic during that conference so

2451
01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:10,360
I'm looking forward to attending Roma

2452
01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:11,920
and bringing that message to the

2453
01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:17,119
minister uh Peter bethan BBY that we're

2454
01:47:17,119 --> 01:47:20,000
not particularly uh thrilled with these

2455
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:22,400
cutbacks and and we can see a trend and

2456
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:23,800
the trend is is not good even though

2457
01:47:23,800 --> 01:47:25,840
they're partic they're anticipating

2458
01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:28,560
Trends in the opposite direction so

2459
01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:31,430
thank

2460
01:47:31,440 --> 01:47:34,950
you councilor

2461
01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:37,320
divinsky thank you Deputy Mayor it

2462
01:47:37,320 --> 01:47:39,920
wasn't too long ago and no one's

2463
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:43,880
mentioned it this evening that our MPP

2464
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:45,000
Lisa

2465
01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:47,239
Thompson I don't know if she's been

2466
01:47:47,239 --> 01:47:51,280
contacted in any shape or form and uh we

2467
01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:54,119
had her here not too long ago go for a

2468
01:47:54,119 --> 01:47:58,000
luncheon and uh we told her about our

2469
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:01,040
concerns she took those concerns with

2470
01:48:01,040 --> 01:48:04,080
her um exactly how much was done I don't

2471
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:08,520
know but at least we went up one level

2472
01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:12,080
and I would like to uh

2473
01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:15,760
suggest that we do the same thing again

2474
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:19,840
and have uh Lisa Thompson back and this

2475
01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:23,000
could be one of the uh issues although

2476
01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:25,400
it's based on formula as Dan says

2477
01:48:25,400 --> 01:48:26,880
there's probably too much that can be

2478
01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:29,719
done with it but that doesn't mean we

2479
01:48:29,719 --> 01:48:32,599
shouldn't be able to get a detailed

2480
01:48:32,599 --> 01:48:35,800
response uh from the ministry

2481
01:48:35,800 --> 01:48:39,040
staff um they work for us like they work

2482
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:39,920
for the

2483
01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:42,960
minister and uh we're entitled to that

2484
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:45,800
even though we know it's going to say

2485
01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:49,800
here's why you can't have any more money

2486
01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:52,320
but we need to involve I think Lisa

2487
01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:54,400
Thompson

2488
01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:56,119
because she is a member of the

2489
01:48:56,119 --> 01:48:59,840
government and has that inside track so

2490
01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:03,280
that's what I'm suggesting tonight thank

2491
01:49:03,280 --> 01:49:05,960
you through you Deputy Mayor thank you

2492
01:49:05,960 --> 01:49:07,480
for that suggestion and we will take

2493
01:49:07,480 --> 01:49:09,599
that feedback and extend an invitation

2494
01:49:09,599 --> 01:49:11,760
to Lisa Thompson to attend a meeting

2495
01:49:11,760 --> 01:49:15,880
with Council to hear Sing shor's

2496
01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:17,760
issues councelor

2497
01:49:17,760 --> 01:49:19,960
stack thank you if I could add perhaps

2498
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:22,119
we could invite her specifically with a

2499
01:49:22,119 --> 01:49:24,560
specific item itemized list and then we

2500
01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:26,280
can advise the public whether she's

2501
01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:28,400
willing or not to engage in that

2502
01:49:28,400 --> 01:49:29,960
discussion with us because I've noticed

2503
01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:31,760
you know we have no issues getting

2504
01:49:31,760 --> 01:49:33,119
Representatives here when we're

2505
01:49:33,119 --> 01:49:35,040
celebrating and recognizing the

2506
01:49:35,040 --> 01:49:37,360
community which is really important but

2507
01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:39,320
there's more to being our representative

2508
01:49:39,320 --> 01:49:40,719
whether it's in the legislature or in

2509
01:49:40,719 --> 01:49:42,880
Parliament than coming here to celebrate

2510
01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:45,800
I'd like them to be able to sort of

2511
01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:47,800
infor provide us with face-to-face

2512
01:49:47,800 --> 01:49:49,639
discussion as to why these decisions are

2513
01:49:49,639 --> 01:49:51,119
being made because this is a community

2514
01:49:51,119 --> 01:49:54,950
that votes for them all the time

2515
01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:56,719
through you Deputy Mayor not that I want

2516
01:49:56,719 --> 01:49:59,239
to be in a position to defend our member

2517
01:49:59,239 --> 01:50:00,840
of of parliament I think that's up to

2518
01:50:00,840 --> 01:50:03,880
her but I will offer that um Lisa

2519
01:50:03,880 --> 01:50:06,080
Thompson is very supportive of us when

2520
01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:09,159
we attend Roma and Amo she often attends

2521
01:50:09,159 --> 01:50:11,639
the town's delegations with us on behalf

2522
01:50:11,639 --> 01:50:14,599
of um as our representative attends with

2523
01:50:14,599 --> 01:50:17,360
those ministers she is very engaged we

2524
01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:19,679
do interact with her staff quite

2525
01:50:19,679 --> 01:50:21,639
frequently and bring forward all every

2526
01:50:21,639 --> 01:50:23,840
grant that we apply for every issue that

2527
01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:25,520
we have does go across her desk so I

2528
01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:27,560
will just offer that but we will extend

2529
01:50:27,560 --> 01:50:29,320
the invitation to her and I'm happy to

2530
01:50:29,320 --> 01:50:33,189
prepare an agenda for that

2531
01:50:33,199 --> 01:50:36,000
meeting councelor

2532
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:39,880
hin through you mayor Deputy Mayor if we

2533
01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:41,920
have such good access how come we have

2534
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:44,320
to hire Willington Dupont to give us

2535
01:50:44,320 --> 01:50:52,990
access to the Ministries

2536
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:54,280
through through you madam chair I don't

2537
01:50:54,280 --> 01:50:55,840
know that I can offer any more than I

2538
01:50:55,840 --> 01:50:58,800
said with my last answer uh we have

2539
01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:00,280
access to our

2540
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:03,400
MPP uh the provincial government is is a

2541
01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:05,239
large organization I don't know how big

2542
01:51:05,239 --> 01:51:07,639
it is I could Google it but there are

2543
01:51:07,639 --> 01:51:10,199
many ministers many ministers staff it

2544
01:51:10,199 --> 01:51:13,000
is highly complex we did not hire

2545
01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:15,599
Wellington Dupont to move forward

2546
01:51:15,599 --> 01:51:17,960
discussions on ocf we hired them in

2547
01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:19,760
order to advance our funding

2548
01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:22,040
applications they offered to help us on

2549
01:51:22,040 --> 01:51:24,280
this because we were hitting such a wall

2550
01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:26,440
with um interactions with staff as you

2551
01:51:26,440 --> 01:51:27,960
heard from our staff they tried for

2552
01:51:27,960 --> 01:51:30,920
several months could not get answers so

2553
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:33,719
we decided it would be relevant to um

2554
01:51:33,719 --> 01:51:38,950
elevate it to the minister

2555
01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:42,360
level councelor hin okay I I think

2556
01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:44,560
there's something wrong in the system

2557
01:51:44,560 --> 01:51:47,360
when we have to spend taxpayers money to

2558
01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:49,320
talk to the next level of government

2559
01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:50,679
thank

2560
01:51:50,679 --> 01:51:53,679
you councelor stack

2561
01:51:53,679 --> 01:51:55,599
while I agree with councelor hlin I we

2562
01:51:55,599 --> 01:51:58,040
recognize that this is not the to the

2563
01:51:58,040 --> 01:52:00,679
town staff or the cao's issue you're

2564
01:52:00,679 --> 01:52:02,920
responding to the realities of the

2565
01:52:02,920 --> 01:52:04,840
political system and so at least from my

2566
01:52:04,840 --> 01:52:07,679
end I'm not suggesting that the staff is

2567
01:52:07,679 --> 01:52:10,119
the issue it's a frustrating process and

2568
01:52:10,119 --> 01:52:13,400
I think I just wanted to recognize

2569
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:16,599
that well I want to thank Daniel for um

2570
01:52:16,599 --> 01:52:18,079
both in his written report and his

2571
01:52:18,079 --> 01:52:21,079
verbal com comments doing a pretty good

2572
01:52:21,079 --> 01:52:24,280
job at explaining a vinal formula that

2573
01:52:24,280 --> 01:52:25,679
doesn't make a whole lot of sense when

2574
01:52:25,679 --> 01:52:27,280
you start to put the component parts

2575
01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:29,079
together but the way you describe it

2576
01:52:29,079 --> 01:52:30,840
helps us understand there is a

2577
01:52:30,840 --> 01:52:32,599
recommendation before us that Council

2578
01:52:32,599 --> 01:52:34,840
receive the Ontario community

2579
01:52:34,840 --> 01:52:37,599
infrastructure fund ocif update report

2580
01:52:37,599 --> 01:52:40,239
for information all those in favor

2581
01:52:40,239 --> 01:52:43,800
that's carried we have um five items on

2582
01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:46,360
the communications

2583
01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:49,000
agenda any member wish to speak to

2584
01:52:49,000 --> 01:52:52,910
councelor divinsky

2585
01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:55,480
yes thank you deputy mayor uh the

2586
01:52:55,480 --> 01:52:57,719
Southampton Bia

2587
01:52:57,719 --> 01:52:59,840
minutes I'd like

2588
01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:02,679
to pull out if I

2589
01:53:02,679 --> 01:53:06,679
could I'm just bringing them up you'd

2590
01:53:06,679 --> 01:53:09,960
think I'd know about this stuff and I do

2591
01:53:09,960 --> 01:53:12,159
to a certain extent but what I wanted to

2592
01:53:12,159 --> 01:53:13,760
point out

2593
01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:17,880
is in the to report that I

2594
01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:20,920
made uh which is item

2595
01:53:20,920 --> 01:53:24,320
12 I said that town is likely allocating

2596
01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:27,639
an additional sidewalk snow plow to

2597
01:53:27,639 --> 01:53:31,560
Southampton so that all streets will

2598
01:53:31,560 --> 01:53:33,119
benefit

2599
01:53:33,119 --> 01:53:35,599
period I did not

2600
01:53:35,599 --> 01:53:39,280
say from this early morning wakeup

2601
01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:42,520
service that was not me that said

2602
01:53:42,520 --> 01:53:45,400
that thank you for that clarification

2603
01:53:45,400 --> 01:53:48,189
thank

2604
01:53:48,199 --> 01:53:50,880
you I can comment that the snowplow

2605
01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:53,040
around the arena is pretty early morning

2606
01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:57,400
wake up for me 3:30 most days um any

2607
01:53:57,400 --> 01:53:59,560
other comments about any of these

2608
01:53:59,560 --> 01:54:02,440
items okay then we'll move on to report

2609
01:54:02,440 --> 01:54:05,679
of Municipal counselors Vice Deputy

2610
01:54:05,679 --> 01:54:09,709
Mayor yeah thank you

2611
01:54:09,719 --> 01:54:13,040
um Deputy Mayor and I I just uh want to

2612
01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:14,480
congratulate all those who helped with

2613
01:54:14,480 --> 01:54:17,800
the food bank um last Last Friday the

2614
01:54:17,800 --> 01:54:19,599
day after Halloween I went over to the

2615
01:54:19,599 --> 01:54:22,880
boat house and made my my cash to ation

2616
01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:25,040
and thank the volunteers for all their

2617
01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:26,920
good work that they were doing that day

2618
01:54:26,920 --> 01:54:29,960
boy they were taking in a a ton of uh of

2619
01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:31,840
canned goods so it was really good to

2620
01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:33,400
see

2621
01:54:33,400 --> 01:54:38,320
um November is um is is an important

2622
01:54:38,320 --> 01:54:43,560
month in that uh men men across Canada

2623
01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:46,440
will be growing a mustache in support of

2624
01:54:46,440 --> 01:54:50,119
um raising awareness and funds for for

2625
01:54:50,119 --> 01:54:53,159
Men's Health especially prostate cancer

2626
01:54:53,159 --> 01:54:57,599
testic cancer mental health and suicide

2627
01:54:57,599 --> 01:55:00,000
prevention and I just want to throw this

2628
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:02,520
out there to the community that and to

2629
01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:06,520
all men and news media who covering this

2630
01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:09,199
meeting tonight that

2631
01:55:09,199 --> 01:55:13,000
um early detection through routine blood

2632
01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:17,119
work can help save a father a son a

2633
01:55:17,119 --> 01:55:22,360
friend a partner and a man's life and um

2634
01:55:22,360 --> 01:55:25,239
if you're approach to make a donation to

2635
01:55:25,239 --> 01:55:29,040
to a volunteer tax deductible make that

2636
01:55:29,040 --> 01:55:31,960
donation and uh in support of raising

2637
01:55:31,960 --> 01:55:36,520
awareness for for prostate cancer and

2638
01:55:36,520 --> 01:55:39,840
uh I'll just leave it at

2639
01:55:39,840 --> 01:55:44,069
that councelor

2640
01:55:44,079 --> 01:55:47,760
Grace uh thank you U Madame Deputy

2641
01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:52,400
Mayor um there's been a lot going on um

2642
01:55:52,400 --> 01:55:53,920
I want to

2643
01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:57,320
thank um everyone who was involved in

2644
01:55:57,320 --> 01:56:00,840
organizing the Halloween event um on

2645
01:56:00,840 --> 01:56:03,639
Halloween evening at Ferry

2646
01:56:03,639 --> 01:56:07,159
Lake um I believe there were over

2647
01:56:07,159 --> 01:56:11,320
550 uh people involved in that and

2648
01:56:11,320 --> 01:56:13,159
despite the fact that the weather closed

2649
01:56:13,159 --> 01:56:17,760
in about halfway through um it was uh it

2650
01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:20,760
was something that has been established

2651
01:56:20,760 --> 01:56:23,480
now I think as a wonderful tradition a

2652
01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:27,400
wonderful Community tradition that um is

2653
01:56:27,400 --> 01:56:30,880
really terrific for our our children and

2654
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:33,560
uh their fam and the families and I also

2655
01:56:33,560 --> 01:56:34,880
want to thank all of the local

2656
01:56:34,880 --> 01:56:36,239
businesses Who provided

2657
01:56:36,239 --> 01:56:39,040
trick-or-treating opportunities for

2658
01:56:39,040 --> 01:56:41,679
families on the weekend throughout our

2659
01:56:41,679 --> 01:56:44,840
downtowns um you're very busy and it was

2660
01:56:44,840 --> 01:56:46,920
very generous of you to provide that

2661
01:56:46,920 --> 01:56:48,239
opportunity as

2662
01:56:48,239 --> 01:56:51,760
well um I wanted to remind people that

2663
01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:53,960
the community dinners at St Paul's

2664
01:56:53,960 --> 01:56:56,639
Anglican Church have started again they

2665
01:56:56,639 --> 01:56:57,960
started in

2666
01:56:57,960 --> 01:57:00,760
October and they are held on the second

2667
01:57:00,760 --> 01:57:03,000
and fourth Wednesday of each month

2668
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:05,760
October to May from 5: to

2669
01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:10,119
6:15 uh p.m and uh I know some has been

2670
01:57:10,119 --> 01:57:12,920
said about the uh human

2671
01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:15,920
trafficking um event that was held at

2672
01:57:15,920 --> 01:57:18,800
Faith Lutheran church so I want to thank

2673
01:57:18,800 --> 01:57:20,800
Faith Lutheran Church for hosting that

2674
01:57:20,800 --> 01:57:24,880
event over 200 50 people there organized

2675
01:57:24,880 --> 01:57:27,480
by Aon zorzy in the port Elgen

2676
01:57:27,480 --> 01:57:29,679
rotary and

2677
01:57:29,679 --> 01:57:35,320
um you know it it it was um fantastic to

2678
01:57:35,320 --> 01:57:39,040
see our sogging Shores police leadership

2679
01:57:39,040 --> 01:57:42,760
in this and I'm very grateful to all of

2680
01:57:42,760 --> 01:57:44,079
our social

2681
01:57:44,079 --> 01:57:47,639
services uh who attended that and uh

2682
01:57:47,639 --> 01:57:52,520
spoke on the panel discussion thank you

2683
01:57:52,520 --> 01:57:57,550
councilor

2684
01:57:57,560 --> 01:58:01,199
divinsky thank you Deputy Mayor um on

2685
01:58:01,199 --> 01:58:02,800
October

2686
01:58:02,800 --> 01:58:06,000
30th I attended the RBC business

2687
01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:09,159
Symposium right here as a matter of fact

2688
01:58:09,159 --> 01:58:14,639
as did you and um it was an

2689
01:58:14,639 --> 01:58:18,079
interesting uh an interesting uh get

2690
01:58:18,079 --> 01:58:21,079
together uh some of it was above my pay

2691
01:58:21,079 --> 01:58:25,360
grade when they they were talking but um

2692
01:58:25,360 --> 01:58:28,159
I was happy to see our Deputy Mayor

2693
01:58:28,159 --> 01:58:30,480
bring it back down to local with a with

2694
01:58:30,480 --> 01:58:33,920
a question about local because it was

2695
01:58:33,920 --> 01:58:36,960
getting way out there I had gone because

2696
01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:40,079
I'd hoped this the Southampton Bia

2697
01:58:40,079 --> 01:58:42,679
members would be there but it was the

2698
01:58:42,679 --> 01:58:46,000
wrong time for them 8:00 am to 11:00 am

2699
01:58:46,000 --> 01:58:48,679
they may have found it interesting and

2700
01:58:48,679 --> 01:58:52,800
then on um November 5th I did it attend

2701
01:58:52,800 --> 01:58:57,880
the AGM of the Bia some great comments

2702
01:58:57,880 --> 01:59:00,079
come out of that meeting I thought it

2703
01:59:00,079 --> 01:59:02,800
was well handled again our deputy mayor

2704
01:59:02,800 --> 01:59:05,360
was there as was uh councelor Cheryl

2705
01:59:05,360 --> 01:59:08,639
Grace and uh there were some great news

2706
01:59:08,639 --> 01:59:11,639
come out of there and uh we'll share

2707
01:59:11,639 --> 01:59:15,280
that I guess with Council on November

2708
01:59:15,280 --> 01:59:19,320
25th is it okay and then

2709
01:59:19,320 --> 01:59:23,159
finally the winter hawks aren doing so

2710
01:59:23,159 --> 01:59:25,599
great they're they're having a problem

2711
01:59:25,599 --> 01:59:28,199
here winning and I think the problem is

2712
01:59:28,199 --> 01:59:31,159
us the fans we've got to show more

2713
01:59:31,159 --> 01:59:34,679
support so they're on the road for a

2714
01:59:34,679 --> 01:59:39,000
while now November 22nd is the next home

2715
01:59:39,000 --> 01:59:42,159
game for your sogging

2716
01:59:42,159 --> 01:59:47,709
showers winter

2717
01:59:47,719 --> 01:59:51,760
rocks councelor May yes thank you uh

2718
01:59:51,760 --> 01:59:53,560
deput mayor I don't have very much to

2719
01:59:53,560 --> 01:59:55,920
report except I'll just say thank you to

2720
01:59:55,920 --> 01:59:59,760
the staff at at the reol Port Elgen uh

2721
01:59:59,760 --> 02:00:02,560
store who are providing Co shots and flu

2722
02:00:02,560 --> 02:00:05,280
shots and my wife and I took advantage

2723
02:00:05,280 --> 02:00:07,040
of that opportunity last week and I

2724
02:00:07,040 --> 02:00:09,599
encourage everybody to to get their Co

2725
02:00:09,599 --> 02:00:11,960
shot co has not gone away it's uh it's

2726
02:00:11,960 --> 02:00:13,920
still around so get your protection

2727
02:00:13,920 --> 02:00:15,440
while it's available thank

2728
02:00:15,440 --> 02:00:18,830
you councelor

2729
02:00:18,840 --> 02:00:22,040
Halton councelor stack thank you just a

2730
02:00:22,040 --> 02:00:23,920
quick one a reminder that it is the port

2731
02:00:23,920 --> 02:00:26,679
algen ba Shoppers night on Thursday this

2732
02:00:26,679 --> 02:00:30,119
week um depending on which sign you read

2733
02:00:30,119 --> 02:00:32,760
it starts at around 5 5:30 is what the

2734
02:00:32,760 --> 02:00:35,040
sign says but it starts at around 5: to

2735
02:00:35,040 --> 02:00:37,280
9 on Thursday

2736
02:00:37,280 --> 02:00:40,480
thanks thank you um I have been the

2737
02:00:40,480 --> 02:00:43,440
acting mayor for a week and uh so did a

2738
02:00:43,440 --> 02:00:45,000
couple of things on behalf of the mayor

2739
02:00:45,000 --> 02:00:46,800
and a few things on behalf of myself but

2740
02:00:46,800 --> 02:00:49,239
I just wanted to comment um that I very

2741
02:00:49,239 --> 02:00:52,199
much appreciated um the interactions I

2742
02:00:52,199 --> 02:00:53,719
had with both the director of Public

2743
02:00:53,719 --> 02:00:57,560
Works and with the fire chief who um I

2744
02:00:57,560 --> 02:00:59,840
had occasion to ask them questions or

2745
02:00:59,840 --> 02:01:02,599
have them be close enough to offer um

2746
02:01:02,599 --> 02:01:04,880
support if needed uh at various events

2747
02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:06,400
around the community so thank you to

2748
02:01:06,400 --> 02:01:09,520
both um Mark and Ed um I was at the

2749
02:01:09,520 --> 02:01:12,199
economic development um activity here at

2750
02:01:12,199 --> 02:01:14,560
the nii with RBC and the nuclear

2751
02:01:14,560 --> 02:01:16,880
Innovation Institute and Bruce Power um

2752
02:01:16,880 --> 02:01:19,119
what I will say is that um at that

2753
02:01:19,119 --> 02:01:21,239
meeting I met Agnes whose last name

2754
02:01:21,239 --> 02:01:24,119
escapes but Agnes is now the full-time

2755
02:01:24,119 --> 02:01:27,280
manager of the RBC location in sogging

2756
02:01:27,280 --> 02:01:30,079
Shores that's a real win for us um

2757
02:01:30,079 --> 02:01:33,400
because we did use to share um a manager

2758
02:01:33,400 --> 02:01:35,520
with with another location so Agnes is

2759
02:01:35,520 --> 02:01:38,199
here full-time very excited about that

2760
02:01:38,199 --> 02:01:41,760
um councelor Grace and I um attended a a

2761
02:01:41,760 --> 02:01:44,159
a little TBL talk uh Town Hall kind of

2762
02:01:44,159 --> 02:01:47,560
meeting at Hampton Court we had a a I

2763
02:01:47,560 --> 02:01:48,679
don't know if we were the captive

2764
02:01:48,679 --> 02:01:50,040
audience or they were the captive

2765
02:01:50,040 --> 02:01:52,119
audience but we uh we sat down with a

2766
02:01:52,119 --> 02:01:55,199
group of uh women there and just shot

2767
02:01:55,199 --> 02:01:56,719
the breeze about all kinds of things

2768
02:01:56,719 --> 02:01:59,079
going on in town and and um the first

2769
02:01:59,079 --> 02:02:01,040
thing that came up was the condition of

2770
02:02:01,040 --> 02:02:03,880
sidewalks um so they they get out and

2771
02:02:03,880 --> 02:02:06,000
about so U we we look forward to doing

2772
02:02:06,000 --> 02:02:07,560
that in the future if anybody else wants

2773
02:02:07,560 --> 02:02:09,520
to join I I try and do that a couple

2774
02:02:09,520 --> 02:02:11,960
times uh each year I went to the Bruce

2775
02:02:11,960 --> 02:02:14,440
County Historical Society AGM and one of

2776
02:02:14,440 --> 02:02:17,239
the um topics there or the speaker there

2777
02:02:17,239 --> 02:02:21,040
were the two filmmakers um Evan and

2778
02:02:21,040 --> 02:02:24,079
Ivonne who are um involved with what's

2779
02:02:24,079 --> 02:02:25,880
the name of their company oh my gosh I

2780
02:02:25,880 --> 02:02:27,880
forgotten it but anyway they're they're

2781
02:02:27,880 --> 02:02:30,400
the um pair that did the documentary

2782
02:02:30,400 --> 02:02:32,679
series The three-part series The Bruce

2783
02:02:32,679 --> 02:02:34,400
their current series that's out there

2784
02:02:34,400 --> 02:02:36,840
right now is called all too clear it was

2785
02:02:36,840 --> 02:02:39,440
broadcast on TVO over three Saturdays

2786
02:02:39,440 --> 02:02:41,400
you can see it on YouTube though it's

2787
02:02:41,400 --> 02:02:44,159
fascinating they had at the AGM the

2788
02:02:44,159 --> 02:02:46,760
little underwater drone and I say little

2789
02:02:46,760 --> 02:02:49,199
it's it's quite small but when you see

2790
02:02:49,199 --> 02:02:51,480
the documentary the footage is just it's

2791
02:02:51,480 --> 02:02:53,199
it's you know James Cameron going down

2792
02:02:53,199 --> 02:02:56,239
to the Titanic it's it's amazing footage

2793
02:02:56,239 --> 02:02:58,520
um of what's going on in the Great Lakes

2794
02:02:58,520 --> 02:03:01,199
um setting up challenges opportunities

2795
02:03:01,199 --> 02:03:04,079
and it's very inspiring to see um The

2796
02:03:04,079 --> 02:03:06,400
Return of lake trout among other things

2797
02:03:06,400 --> 02:03:09,760
and if you've ever wanted to know um how

2798
02:03:09,760 --> 02:03:12,199
fish really get it on there's some of

2799
02:03:12,199 --> 02:03:14,679
that footage in there too um you can you

2800
02:03:14,679 --> 02:03:17,159
can watch it on YouTube I went to

2801
02:03:17,159 --> 02:03:21,199
Southport um Church um was a week ago

2802
02:03:21,199 --> 02:03:23,480
now they had a television crew there

2803
02:03:23,480 --> 02:03:26,679
from the yes TV network um the church is

2804
02:03:26,679 --> 02:03:29,400
involved in a number of of um activities

2805
02:03:29,400 --> 02:03:31,920
but there's a um a prayer Network that

2806
02:03:31,920 --> 02:03:35,199
they're very involved with so yes TV was

2807
02:03:35,199 --> 02:03:37,119
there doing some filming they were out

2808
02:03:37,119 --> 02:03:40,199
and around um so shores as well so um I

2809
02:03:40,199 --> 02:03:42,719
was able to participate in their their

2810
02:03:42,719 --> 02:03:45,199
program um I believe it's going to be on

2811
02:03:45,199 --> 02:03:47,719
yes TV the first or second week of

2812
02:03:47,719 --> 02:03:49,960
December um I'll try and get that

2813
02:03:49,960 --> 02:03:52,920
information and maybe it can be shared

2814
02:03:52,920 --> 02:03:56,199
I went to the South uh Hampton Bia GM as

2815
02:03:56,199 --> 02:03:58,400
uh councelor D divinsky mentioned I also

2816
02:03:58,400 --> 02:04:00,480
went to the port algen Bia meeting last

2817
02:04:00,480 --> 02:04:02,520
week and councelor stack mentioned

2818
02:04:02,520 --> 02:04:04,840
Shoppers night um at the that Bia

2819
02:04:04,840 --> 02:04:06,400
meeting they also talked a little bit

2820
02:04:06,400 --> 02:04:08,719
about the success of the market um

2821
02:04:08,719 --> 02:04:12,239
exercise last summer and the um

2822
02:04:12,239 --> 02:04:14,280
potential for possible expansion next

2823
02:04:14,280 --> 02:04:16,440
year so I I assume we'll we'll hear from

2824
02:04:16,440 --> 02:04:20,159
them soon um couple of the the bigger

2825
02:04:20,159 --> 02:04:22,280
things that I did um perhaps

2826
02:04:22,280 --> 02:04:23,840
where I got to go to County Council

2827
02:04:23,840 --> 02:04:27,679
again last uh Thursday and it was um

2828
02:04:27,679 --> 02:04:29,679
always it's always an interesting um

2829
02:04:29,679 --> 02:04:31,360
experience but they were talking about

2830
02:04:31,360 --> 02:04:33,440
their budget so it was a good sort of

2831
02:04:33,440 --> 02:04:35,840
preamble to our own uh business planning

2832
02:04:35,840 --> 02:04:39,679
budget meetings coming up and um it was

2833
02:04:39,679 --> 02:04:42,920
certainly um helpful I guess to me to

2834
02:04:42,920 --> 02:04:44,040
understand just the reach that the

2835
02:04:44,040 --> 02:04:46,320
county has into sing Shores so if you

2836
02:04:46,320 --> 02:04:47,840
haven't ever looked at the Bruce County

2837
02:04:47,840 --> 02:04:50,000
budget um there's a lot of elements that

2838
02:04:50,000 --> 02:04:51,960
touch on on what goes on here in so

2839
02:04:51,960 --> 02:04:55,400
Shores I also went down to Bruce Power

2840
02:04:55,400 --> 02:04:57,840
last Friday the CEO was also there for

2841
02:04:57,840 --> 02:05:00,239
the announcement about um the the

2842
02:05:00,239 --> 02:05:01,719
minister of energy was there Steven

2843
02:05:01,719 --> 02:05:03,679
leche and Lisa Thompson was there as

2844
02:05:03,679 --> 02:05:08,079
well and um and also Rick buers there

2845
02:05:08,079 --> 02:05:10,719
was an announcement about how isotope

2846
02:05:10,719 --> 02:05:13,079
manufacturing will be taking place right

2847
02:05:13,079 --> 02:05:15,480
here in Bruce County we will no longer

2848
02:05:15,480 --> 02:05:18,239
have to send off Material off to Germany

2849
02:05:18,239 --> 02:05:20,840
to have it um created or or produced

2850
02:05:20,840 --> 02:05:23,079
into a product that can then be used for

2851
02:05:23,079 --> 02:05:26,559
cancer U treatments um that facility um

2852
02:05:26,559 --> 02:05:28,079
will now be available in Bruce County

2853
02:05:28,079 --> 02:05:30,280
they didn't say where but Bruce county

2854
02:05:30,280 --> 02:05:32,559
is much closer than Germany they also

2855
02:05:32,559 --> 02:05:34,719
said that uh unit 4 was about to start

2856
02:05:34,719 --> 02:05:37,599
being refurbished in March um I

2857
02:05:37,599 --> 02:05:41,000
continued on on Friday to County Road 19

2858
02:05:41,000 --> 02:05:43,119
um where there was a plaque unveiling

2859
02:05:43,119 --> 02:05:45,119
which commemorated the route that

2860
02:05:45,119 --> 02:05:47,440
soldiers took um in

2861
02:05:47,440 --> 02:05:51,320
1916 from Walkerton to Chesley and back

2862
02:05:51,320 --> 02:05:52,840
a mar Mar that they made they marched

2863
02:05:52,840 --> 02:05:54,840
from Walkerton to Chesley to receive

2864
02:05:54,840 --> 02:05:57,520
their colors it was the 160th Bruce

2865
02:05:57,520 --> 02:05:59,320
Bruce Battalion they received their

2866
02:05:59,320 --> 02:06:01,119
colors in Chesley from the premier at

2867
02:06:01,119 --> 02:06:03,239
the time heern and then marched back to

2868
02:06:03,239 --> 02:06:05,440
Walkerton that stretch of road is now

2869
02:06:05,440 --> 02:06:07,040
named the highway for peace and their

2870
02:06:07,040 --> 02:06:10,280
signage up I did want to end by saying

2871
02:06:10,280 --> 02:06:12,119
um that um many of us were at

2872
02:06:12,119 --> 02:06:14,520
Remembrance Day services today um at

2873
02:06:14,520 --> 02:06:16,360
both port algen and the Southampton

2874
02:06:16,360 --> 02:06:18,800
Senate halfs and it was good to have the

2875
02:06:18,800 --> 02:06:21,760
involvement of of uh our own fire fire

2876
02:06:21,760 --> 02:06:23,960
uh Fighters at those events and also the

2877
02:06:23,960 --> 02:06:26,119
police were at at both events as well

2878
02:06:26,119 --> 02:06:28,280
and if I could ask um I know that

2879
02:06:28,280 --> 02:06:30,159
there's um a public engagement

2880
02:06:30,159 --> 02:06:32,280
opportunity right now associated with

2881
02:06:32,280 --> 02:06:35,239
the business plan um Can someone just

2882
02:06:35,239 --> 02:06:37,559
comment on um what the timeline is for

2883
02:06:37,559 --> 02:06:39,079
that I I just can't remember when the

2884
02:06:39,079 --> 02:06:41,440
closing date is for the public to make

2885
02:06:41,440 --> 02:06:44,119
comments oh

2886
02:06:44,119 --> 02:06:48,199
yes uh thank you uh Deputy Mayor I don't

2887
02:06:48,199 --> 02:06:50,239
know I'm looking at the back at Jill if

2888
02:06:50,239 --> 02:06:52,159
she knows the closing date for I believe

2889
02:06:52,159 --> 02:06:54,239
it's maybe the end of this week in order

2890
02:06:54,239 --> 02:06:57,239
to allow us to prepare um the response

2891
02:06:57,239 --> 02:06:58,920
in order for Council consideration on

2892
02:06:58,920 --> 02:07:02,760
the 20th but uh the director of will be

2893
02:07:02,760 --> 02:07:04,119
able to answer it better than I will

2894
02:07:04,119 --> 02:07:06,119
when he's back in the room but access to

2895
02:07:06,119 --> 02:07:09,559
the feedbook feedback is via the

2896
02:07:09,559 --> 02:07:13,000
website is that correct yes okay thank

2897
02:07:13,000 --> 02:07:15,760
you very much and having know new

2898
02:07:15,760 --> 02:07:17,480
business I will now ask for a motion for

2899
02:07:17,480 --> 02:07:19,360
adjournment of the committee of the

2900
02:07:19,360 --> 02:07:21,760
whole councelor stack seconded by by

2901
02:07:21,760 --> 02:07:24,639
councelor Halpin so um the motion is to

2902
02:07:24,639 --> 02:07:28,639
adjourn at 8:38 p.m. all those in favor

2903
02:07:28,639 --> 02:07:30,719
um and maybe we'll take a 10-minute

2904
02:07:30,719 --> 02:07:35,960
break and reconvene at uh 10 minutes to

2905
02:07:35,960 --> 02:07:50,430
9ine thank

2906
02:07:50,440 --> 02:08:20,430
you

2907
02:08:20,440 --> 02:19:32,750
e e

2908
02:19:32,760 --> 02:19:37,389
it is 10

2909
02:19:37,399 --> 02:19:42,120
to9 it is 10 to n

2910
02:19:42,120 --> 02:19:45,240
so I'm

2911
02:19:45,240 --> 02:19:48,000
GNA I'm going to call to order this

2912
02:19:48,000 --> 02:19:49,920
meeting this regular council meeting of

2913
02:19:49,920 --> 02:19:53,920
the town of SOI Shores um for Monday

2914
02:19:53,920 --> 02:19:58,760
November the 11th um we will um be we

2915
02:19:58,760 --> 02:20:01,720
have a motion uh for an addition to the

2916
02:20:01,720 --> 02:20:04,640
closed public session but uh before that

2917
02:20:04,640 --> 02:20:07,640
happens um I'd like to just ask if

2918
02:20:07,640 --> 02:20:09,800
members of council would be acceptable

2919
02:20:09,800 --> 02:20:13,560
to moving item nine on the agenda 9.1

2920
02:20:13,560 --> 02:20:15,359
which is the Environmental ad hoc

2921
02:20:15,359 --> 02:20:18,200
committee final report if we move that

2922
02:20:18,200 --> 02:20:21,520
up to the top of the agenda

2923
02:20:21,520 --> 02:20:24,920
um ahead of um or right after we do the

2924
02:20:24,920 --> 02:20:27,319
um Amendment which is the addition to

2925
02:20:27,319 --> 02:20:30,000
the closed agenda is everyone in

2926
02:20:30,000 --> 02:20:32,240
acceptance of moving that

2927
02:20:32,240 --> 02:20:35,560
item okay thank you very much for that

2928
02:20:35,560 --> 02:20:37,680
then we have

2929
02:20:37,680 --> 02:20:40,800
um if you would like to uh declare a

2930
02:20:40,800 --> 02:20:42,240
pecuniary interest anything on the

2931
02:20:42,240 --> 02:20:43,920
agenda you can do that now or at any

2932
02:20:43,920 --> 02:20:45,439
point during the

2933
02:20:45,439 --> 02:20:48,800
meeting then the next item on the agenda

2934
02:20:48,800 --> 02:20:50,960
is additions deletions or amendments and

2935
02:20:50,960 --> 02:20:54,960
there there is a a request for a motion

2936
02:20:54,960 --> 02:20:58,120
that would add to the close uh to public

2937
02:20:58,120 --> 02:21:00,479
session the recommendation is that

2938
02:21:00,479 --> 02:21:04,800
Council add item 6.3.3 to the close to

2939
02:21:04,800 --> 02:21:06,680
public council meeting agenda for

2940
02:21:06,680 --> 02:21:09,520
November the 11th 2024 and in accordance

2941
02:21:09,520 --> 02:21:12,960
with the municipal act section 239 item

2942
02:21:12,960 --> 02:21:16,720
two um subsection k a position Place

2943
02:21:16,720 --> 02:21:18,960
procedure criteria or instruction to be

2944
02:21:18,960 --> 02:21:21,479
applied to any negotiations carried on

2945
02:21:21,479 --> 02:21:24,560
or to be carried on by or on behalf of

2946
02:21:24,560 --> 02:21:27,479
the municipality or the local board um

2947
02:21:27,479 --> 02:21:29,319
this relates to the Bruce C Municipal

2948
02:21:29,319 --> 02:21:31,399
capacity funding update um can I have a

2949
02:21:31,399 --> 02:21:33,120
mover and a seconder for that Amendment

2950
02:21:33,120 --> 02:21:35,040
moved by councelor Grace seconded by

2951
02:21:35,040 --> 02:21:38,080
councelor halpen any discussion all in

2952
02:21:38,080 --> 02:21:41,680
favor thank you very much then we will

2953
02:21:41,680 --> 02:21:44,800
jump down to 9.1 which is the

2954
02:21:44,800 --> 02:21:47,800
Environmental ad hoc committee final

2955
02:21:47,800 --> 02:21:51,040
report and um the recommendation is that

2956
02:21:51,040 --> 02:21:53,000
the environmental ad hoc committee final

2957
02:21:53,000 --> 02:21:54,640
report be received for information and

2958
02:21:54,640 --> 02:21:57,040
referred to staff for a report back on

2959
02:21:57,040 --> 02:21:58,240
the implementation of the

2960
02:21:58,240 --> 02:21:59,960
recommendations of the committee

2961
02:21:59,960 --> 02:22:01,479
councelor Grace has chaired that

2962
02:22:01,479 --> 02:22:03,800
committee and she would like to speak to

2963
02:22:03,800 --> 02:22:06,309
this

2964
02:22:06,319 --> 02:22:08,960
report thank you Madame Deputy Mayor and

2965
02:22:08,960 --> 02:22:11,840
thank you uh to my colleagues for

2966
02:22:11,840 --> 02:22:14,760
allowing us to move this up I know that

2967
02:22:14,760 --> 02:22:17,040
uh we have one member of the public in

2968
02:22:17,040 --> 02:22:20,080
the in the audience and we have uh I

2969
02:22:20,080 --> 02:22:22,359
think me members of the committee also

2970
02:22:22,359 --> 02:22:24,800
at home who are watching and I'm sure

2971
02:22:24,800 --> 02:22:27,479
they'd appreciate this being moved up

2972
02:22:27,479 --> 02:22:28,880
I'm pleased to report that the

2973
02:22:28,880 --> 02:22:30,840
environmental ad hoc committee has

2974
02:22:30,840 --> 02:22:33,760
completed its assigned mandate and is

2975
02:22:33,760 --> 02:22:35,520
presenting the attached report and

2976
02:22:35,520 --> 02:22:37,479
supporting subcomittee

2977
02:22:37,479 --> 02:22:40,840
reports as a reminder for all our charge

2978
02:22:40,840 --> 02:22:42,960
grew out of the work of the

2979
02:22:42,960 --> 02:22:46,080
2021 environmental stewardship ad hoc

2980
02:22:46,080 --> 02:22:48,800
advisory committee which presented its

2981
02:22:48,800 --> 02:22:52,280
final report to council in February of

2982
02:22:52,280 --> 02:22:55,080
2022 from this report this year's

2983
02:22:55,080 --> 02:22:57,439
committee was asked to do further work

2984
02:22:57,439 --> 02:23:00,520
to support council's Direction regarding

2985
02:23:00,520 --> 02:23:02,840
the creation of a sogging Shores climate

2986
02:23:02,840 --> 02:23:06,240
action plan and an urban tree canaby

2987
02:23:06,240 --> 02:23:09,080
plan and as well as a process for

2988
02:23:09,080 --> 02:23:11,280
establishing an annual environmental

2989
02:23:11,280 --> 02:23:13,680
stewardship award and improving

2990
02:23:13,680 --> 02:23:16,319
Community awareness and engagement in

2991
02:23:16,319 --> 02:23:19,279
environmental issues I want to thank the

2992
02:23:19,279 --> 02:23:21,160
members uh the committee members for

2993
02:23:21,160 --> 02:23:23,680
their hard work and contributions in

2994
02:23:23,680 --> 02:23:27,279
completing this project odet bartnicki

2995
02:23:27,279 --> 02:23:30,800
Dan dachuk councelor Bud halpen Kathy

2996
02:23:30,800 --> 02:23:35,240
McIntosh Brent proud and Victoria sandre

2997
02:23:35,240 --> 02:23:37,279
the committee also thanks these staff

2998
02:23:37,279 --> 02:23:39,800
members for their support and guidance

2999
02:23:39,800 --> 02:23:43,640
Mark poy Sarah bonde Don midd Holtz

3000
02:23:43,640 --> 02:23:47,399
Frank buroughs Kristen Sears Jay pner

3001
02:23:47,399 --> 02:23:52,710
Jill root and Laura muscone

3002
02:23:52,720 --> 02:23:54,760
regarding developing a soggy Shores

3003
02:23:54,760 --> 02:23:57,279
climate action plan our research makes

3004
02:23:57,279 --> 02:24:00,200
clear the importance of taking action to

3005
02:24:00,200 --> 02:24:03,640
increase increase climate resilience now

3006
02:24:03,640 --> 02:24:06,720
to prevent greater costs in the future

3007
02:24:06,720 --> 02:24:09,600
suggesting research suggests that every

3008
02:24:09,600 --> 02:24:12,279
$1 invested in prevention and

3009
02:24:12,279 --> 02:24:16,160
preparation can save up to $15 in future

3010
02:24:16,160 --> 02:24:18,560
costs this includes evidence that

3011
02:24:18,560 --> 02:24:20,840
sharply increasing municipal insurance

3012
02:24:20,840 --> 02:24:24,000
rates can be lowered by ensuring that

3013
02:24:24,000 --> 02:24:26,720
Municipal infrastructure is climate

3014
02:24:26,720 --> 02:24:29,359
resilient the committee is recommending

3015
02:24:29,359 --> 02:24:31,960
that the municipality join the partners

3016
02:24:31,960 --> 02:24:34,680
for climate Protection Program which is

3017
02:24:34,680 --> 02:24:37,120
affiliated with the Federation of canadi

3018
02:24:37,120 --> 02:24:38,600
Canadian

3019
02:24:38,600 --> 02:24:40,840
municipalities this program provides

3020
02:24:40,840 --> 02:24:44,160
many resources to support climate action

3021
02:24:44,160 --> 02:24:46,080
and environmental

3022
02:24:46,080 --> 02:24:48,880
sustainability joining has no initial

3023
02:24:48,880 --> 02:24:51,200
cost although preparing ing a climate

3024
02:24:51,200 --> 02:24:54,520
action plan will have a cost how much

3025
02:24:54,520 --> 02:24:56,880
depends on whether outside expertise

3026
02:24:56,880 --> 02:24:58,080
needs to be

3027
02:24:58,080 --> 02:25:01,200
hired very importantly there is also a

3028
02:25:01,200 --> 02:25:04,200
much greater grant funding availability

3029
02:25:04,200 --> 02:25:06,600
for municipalities with climate

3030
02:25:06,600 --> 02:25:09,560
adaptation plans through programs like

3031
02:25:09,560 --> 02:25:10,920
infrastructure

3032
02:25:10,920 --> 02:25:13,800
Canada's green Municipal

3033
02:25:13,800 --> 02:25:16,840
fund to Pro promote and create awareness

3034
02:25:16,840 --> 02:25:18,840
of the environment the committee

3035
02:25:18,840 --> 02:25:20,920
recommends establishing an annually

3036
02:25:20,920 --> 02:25:24,000
appointed ad hoc environmental Community

3037
02:25:24,000 --> 02:25:26,600
engagement committee this committee

3038
02:25:26,600 --> 02:25:29,560
would support staff and reduce costs by

3039
02:25:29,560 --> 02:25:31,880
promoting environmental sustainability

3040
02:25:31,880 --> 02:25:34,600
through events and an environmental

3041
02:25:34,600 --> 02:25:37,920
Champion Awards program recognizing

3042
02:25:37,920 --> 02:25:40,760
household individual and business-based

3043
02:25:40,760 --> 02:25:43,479
sustainable practices through public

3044
02:25:43,479 --> 02:25:46,319
events and an awards program or an

3045
02:25:46,319 --> 02:25:48,920
integral part of devel developing

3046
02:25:48,920 --> 02:25:51,960
CommunityWide and environmental

3047
02:25:51,960 --> 02:25:54,000
sustainability the committee supports

3048
02:25:54,000 --> 02:25:57,000
the draft Urban Tree canopy plan and its

3049
02:25:57,000 --> 02:25:59,200
recommendations including some of these

3050
02:25:59,200 --> 02:26:00,520
additional

3051
02:26:00,520 --> 02:26:02,880
recommendations focus on protecting and

3052
02:26:02,880 --> 02:26:05,600
growing the municipal tree canopy

3053
02:26:05,600 --> 02:26:08,319
through planting maintenance public

3054
02:26:08,319 --> 02:26:11,359
education and active enforcement to

3055
02:26:11,359 --> 02:26:14,120
protect Municipal trees and plants from

3056
02:26:14,120 --> 02:26:15,359
illegal

3057
02:26:15,359 --> 02:26:17,720
interference regarding trees on

3058
02:26:17,720 --> 02:26:20,920
privately owned lands we recommend

3059
02:26:20,920 --> 02:26:23,920
develop developing canopy protection at

3060
02:26:23,920 --> 02:26:26,760
the level of wood lots and significant

3061
02:26:26,760 --> 02:26:29,560
Woodlands for individual trees on

3062
02:26:29,560 --> 02:26:33,279
smaller Lots focus on preservation

3063
02:26:33,279 --> 02:26:36,080
education and incentivization through

3064
02:26:36,080 --> 02:26:39,760
expanding subsidized tree planting

3065
02:26:39,760 --> 02:26:43,560
program uh programs I should say uh and

3066
02:26:43,560 --> 02:26:45,800
also encourage public engagement and

3067
02:26:45,800 --> 02:26:48,160
increased data collection through the

3068
02:26:48,160 --> 02:26:50,520
development of a citizen scientist type

3069
02:26:50,520 --> 02:26:53,000
reporting system on the numbers of

3070
02:26:53,000 --> 02:26:55,240
private trees including significant

3071
02:26:55,240 --> 02:26:58,600
trees in conclusion the committee

3072
02:26:58,600 --> 02:27:00,880
believes that no municipality is too

3073
02:27:00,880 --> 02:27:04,319
small nor is it too early to create and

3074
02:27:04,319 --> 02:27:06,840
Implement a climate action plan and

3075
02:27:06,840 --> 02:27:09,560
improve its level of environmental

3076
02:27:09,560 --> 02:27:11,680
sustainability our town has already

3077
02:27:11,680 --> 02:27:14,200
implemented some changes to work towards

3078
02:27:14,200 --> 02:27:17,000
this the work of the environmental ad

3079
02:27:17,000 --> 02:27:19,359
hoc committee has demonstrated that

3080
02:27:19,359 --> 02:27:22,160
Community involved ment support from

3081
02:27:22,160 --> 02:27:24,319
Municipal leaders and providing

3082
02:27:24,319 --> 02:27:26,720
opportunities for climate action will

3083
02:27:26,720 --> 02:27:29,640
create a more sustainable sogging Shores

3084
02:27:29,640 --> 02:27:35,830
thank you I am open to answering

3085
02:27:35,840 --> 02:27:38,680
questions thank you very much councelor

3086
02:27:38,680 --> 02:27:41,399
grace um are there any comments or

3087
02:27:41,399 --> 02:27:43,640
questions this we will be receiving

3088
02:27:43,640 --> 02:27:46,200
additional information um coming back

3089
02:27:46,200 --> 02:27:48,399
from staff about um the recommendations

3090
02:27:48,399 --> 02:27:53,830
in the committee's report are there any

3091
02:27:53,840 --> 02:27:55,840
comments seeing none then the

3092
02:27:55,840 --> 02:27:57,479
recommendation is that the environmental

3093
02:27:57,479 --> 02:27:59,439
ad hoc committee final report be

3094
02:27:59,439 --> 02:28:01,680
received for information and referred to

3095
02:28:01,680 --> 02:28:03,840
staff for a report back on the

3096
02:28:03,840 --> 02:28:05,640
implementation of the recommendations of

3097
02:28:05,640 --> 02:28:06,479
the

3098
02:28:06,479 --> 02:28:11,279
committee all those in favor that's

3099
02:28:11,279 --> 02:28:15,479
carried I asked you if we did you didn't

3100
02:28:15,479 --> 02:28:18,000
tell okay I guess we need a move in a

3101
02:28:18,000 --> 02:28:20,479
second or yeah I knew I was gonna g mess

3102
02:28:20,479 --> 02:28:22,720
up I told you um moved by councelor

3103
02:28:22,720 --> 02:28:25,399
Halpin seconded by councelor

3104
02:28:25,399 --> 02:28:27,600
Stack I won't read it again but all

3105
02:28:27,600 --> 02:28:29,520
those in

3106
02:28:29,520 --> 02:28:40,230
favor thank you very much that's

3107
02:28:40,240 --> 02:28:43,960
carried um we have uh two sets of

3108
02:28:43,960 --> 02:28:47,439
minutes um the recommendation is that

3109
02:28:47,439 --> 02:28:49,240
Council adopt the minutes of the regular

3110
02:28:49,240 --> 02:28:51,680
Council meetings of October 21 and

3111
02:28:51,680 --> 02:28:54,920
October 28 2024 and Note and file the

3112
02:28:54,920 --> 02:28:56,279
minutes of the committee of the whole

3113
02:28:56,279 --> 02:28:58,960
meeting of October the 28th 2024 has

3114
02:28:58,960 --> 02:29:00,439
presented can I have a moover and a

3115
02:29:00,439 --> 02:29:03,200
seconder for that mve by councelor Grace

3116
02:29:03,200 --> 02:29:05,640
seconded by councelor divinsky any

3117
02:29:05,640 --> 02:29:09,120
discussion about the mo the U

3118
02:29:09,120 --> 02:29:12,120
minutes I believe um there was one thing

3119
02:29:12,120 --> 02:29:13,720
that was going to be corrected I think

3120
02:29:13,720 --> 02:29:17,080
we noted um that you were at councelor

3121
02:29:17,080 --> 02:29:18,160
mayette was at a meeting that you

3122
02:29:18,160 --> 02:29:23,510
weren't at

3123
02:29:23,520 --> 02:29:27,520
so that yeah so that that's been picked

3124
02:29:27,520 --> 02:29:30,840
up um thank you through you uh Deputy

3125
02:29:30,840 --> 02:29:33,720
Mayor Huber yes so for the October 21st

3126
02:29:33,720 --> 02:29:37,240
uh we'll be moving uh councelor Maya

3127
02:29:37,240 --> 02:29:40,000
from attending to

3128
02:29:40,000 --> 02:29:43,640
absent thank you anything else all those

3129
02:29:43,640 --> 02:29:48,000
in favor then and that's

3130
02:29:48,000 --> 02:29:50,800
carried so now we're um it's recommended

3131
02:29:50,800 --> 02:29:53,960
that we go into a closed public session

3132
02:29:53,960 --> 02:29:57,120
and the recommendation

3133
02:29:57,120 --> 02:29:59,840
is the council move into a close to

3134
02:29:59,840 --> 02:30:01,880
public session in in accordance with the

3135
02:30:01,880 --> 02:30:05,359
municipal act 2001 section 239

3136
02:30:05,359 --> 02:30:09,680
subsection two um with item c a proposed

3137
02:30:09,680 --> 02:30:12,279
or pending acquisition or disposition of

3138
02:30:12,279 --> 02:30:14,240
land by the municipality or the local

3139
02:30:14,240 --> 02:30:17,840
board D Labor Relations or employee

3140
02:30:17,840 --> 02:30:21,080
negotiations and k a position plan

3141
02:30:21,080 --> 02:30:23,359
procedure criteria or instruction to be

3142
02:30:23,359 --> 02:30:26,160
applied to any negotiations carried on

3143
02:30:26,160 --> 02:30:29,720
or to be carried on by or on behalf of

3144
02:30:29,720 --> 02:30:31,479
the municipality or local board can I

3145
02:30:31,479 --> 02:30:33,040
have a mover and a seconder for that

3146
02:30:33,040 --> 02:30:35,080
moved by councelor Stack seconded by the

3147
02:30:35,080 --> 02:30:39,200
Vice Deputy Mayor all in favor okay

3148
02:30:39,200 --> 02:30:48,910
we'll go into

3149
02:30:48,920 --> 02:31:18,910
closed

3150
02:31:18,920 --> 03:29:58,189
e e

3151
03:29:58,199 --> 03:30:16,349
hey I

3152
03:30:16,359 --> 03:30:20,080
okay I'm we're going to resume our our

3153
03:30:20,080 --> 03:30:23,550
meeting

3154
03:30:23,560 --> 03:30:26,080
so there's a recommendation that Council

3155
03:30:26,080 --> 03:30:27,920
arise from the close to public session

3156
03:30:27,920 --> 03:30:29,840
and resume the regular council meeting

3157
03:30:29,840 --> 03:30:31,840
can I have a move in a second or move by

3158
03:30:31,840 --> 03:30:34,520
councelor halpen seconded by councelor

3159
03:30:34,520 --> 03:30:37,960
mayette and I will report out that uh

3160
03:30:37,960 --> 03:30:40,080
during the closed session uh Council

3161
03:30:40,080 --> 03:30:43,439
provided direction to staff concerning a

3162
03:30:43,439 --> 03:30:46,040
proposed or pending acquisition or

3163
03:30:46,040 --> 03:30:48,800
disposition of land by the municipality

3164
03:30:48,800 --> 03:30:52,080
um and Labor Relations or employee

3165
03:30:52,080 --> 03:30:54,840
negotiations and also rep uh gave

3166
03:30:54,840 --> 03:30:57,199
Direction related to a position plan

3167
03:30:57,199 --> 03:30:59,479
procedure criteria or instruction to be

3168
03:30:59,479 --> 03:31:02,520
applied to any negotiations carried on

3169
03:31:02,520 --> 03:31:06,040
or to be carried on by or on behalf of

3170
03:31:06,040 --> 03:31:29,150
the municipality

3171
03:31:29,160 --> 03:31:32,000
so I've I've had had some amendments and

3172
03:31:32,000 --> 03:31:35,040
nudged my way from over here uh first of

3173
03:31:35,040 --> 03:31:37,600
all I didn't take the vote to resume so

3174
03:31:37,600 --> 03:31:40,479
all in favor I thought I had okay so

3175
03:31:40,479 --> 03:31:43,439
we're back in in open and in reporting

3176
03:31:43,439 --> 03:31:45,920
about what happened um the direction was

3177
03:31:45,920 --> 03:31:47,520
provided related

3178
03:31:47,520 --> 03:31:50,279
to labor negotiations for collective

3179
03:31:50,279 --> 03:31:52,399
bargaining and direction for on

3180
03:31:52,399 --> 03:31:53,720
negotiations with the blue water

3181
03:31:53,720 --> 03:31:56,040
district school board for potential land

3182
03:31:56,040 --> 03:31:58,520
disposition and Council provided

3183
03:31:58,520 --> 03:32:00,560
Direction on a negotiation for the Bruce

3184
03:32:00,560 --> 03:32:03,319
SE Municipal capacity

3185
03:32:03,319 --> 03:32:07,600
funding is that okay okay all right told

3186
03:32:07,600 --> 03:32:10,680
you it was going to be fun okay we have

3187
03:32:10,680 --> 03:32:12,560
um we're down to number eight in the

3188
03:32:12,560 --> 03:32:15,319
agenda we have committee reports and

3189
03:32:15,319 --> 03:32:17,319
there's a recommendation there are five

3190
03:32:17,319 --> 03:32:19,720
items there for consideration uh does

3191
03:32:19,720 --> 03:32:22,680
anybody want any of them taken um out

3192
03:32:22,680 --> 03:32:24,359
and talked about separately or can we

3193
03:32:24,359 --> 03:32:25,960
deal with them all out at

3194
03:32:25,960 --> 03:32:28,359
once seeing

3195
03:32:28,359 --> 03:32:32,560
nothing so I need a motion to um the

3196
03:32:32,560 --> 03:32:33,960
recommendation would be that Council

3197
03:32:33,960 --> 03:32:36,160
receive the landfill optimization

3198
03:32:36,160 --> 03:32:38,120
environmental assessment terms of

3199
03:32:38,120 --> 03:32:40,359
reference report for information the

3200
03:32:40,359 --> 03:32:42,199
council received the public engagement

3201
03:32:42,199 --> 03:32:44,160
comments and feedback on High Street

3202
03:32:44,160 --> 03:32:45,840
reconstruction and senat improve

3203
03:32:45,840 --> 03:32:47,600
improvements project report for

3204
03:32:47,600 --> 03:32:49,760
information the council approved the

3205
03:32:49,760 --> 03:32:52,479
capital budget pre-approval report dated

3206
03:32:52,479 --> 03:33:16,429
October 28th 20124 totaling 2,

3207
03:33:16,439 --> 03:33:19,520
any discussion about any of those all in

3208
03:33:19,520 --> 03:33:21,800
favor that's

3209
03:33:21,800 --> 03:33:25,040
carried we also have a committee report

3210
03:33:25,040 --> 03:33:26,760
which uh the recommendation is that

3211
03:33:26,760 --> 03:33:29,439
Council endorse the resolution from the

3212
03:33:29,439 --> 03:33:32,080
town of Bradford West willberry

3213
03:33:32,080 --> 03:33:34,520
regarding the Ontario deposit return

3214
03:33:34,520 --> 03:33:36,720
program and that this resolution be

3215
03:33:36,720 --> 03:33:39,199
circulated to Premier Doug Ford the

3216
03:33:39,199 --> 03:33:42,080
Minister of Finance

3217
03:33:42,080 --> 03:33:47,439
Peter bethlen FY MP Ben lob MPP Lisa

3218
03:33:47,439 --> 03:33:49,080
Thompson and the sing Valley

3219
03:33:49,080 --> 03:33:50,920
conservation Authority can I have a move

3220
03:33:50,920 --> 03:33:53,319
in a second or for that move by

3221
03:33:53,319 --> 03:33:55,439
counselor halpen seconded by councelor

3222
03:33:55,439 --> 03:33:57,239
Stack is there any

3223
03:33:57,239 --> 03:34:01,110
discussion all those in

3224
03:34:01,120 --> 03:34:05,239
favor and then we have a uh notice of

3225
03:34:05,239 --> 03:34:08,399
motion concerning um intimate partner

3226
03:34:08,399 --> 03:34:10,960
violence that will be on a future agenda

3227
03:34:10,960 --> 03:34:12,840
so it's just here for information at the

3228
03:34:12,840 --> 03:34:15,800
moment and we're down to bylaws um we we

3229
03:34:15,800 --> 03:34:18,160
have a recommendation that bylaw 87

3230
03:34:18,160 --> 03:34:21,880
point or 87- 2024 is hereby read a first

3231
03:34:21,880 --> 03:34:24,120
second and third time passed and sealed

3232
03:34:24,120 --> 03:34:25,840
this 11th day of

3233
03:34:25,840 --> 03:34:29,080
November um 2024 this is to authorize

3234
03:34:29,080 --> 03:34:31,040
it's the authorized procedural

3235
03:34:31,040 --> 03:34:33,160
bylaw can I have a mover in a seconder

3236
03:34:33,160 --> 03:34:36,439
for that moveed by councelor Grace

3237
03:34:36,439 --> 03:34:39,120
seconded by councelor Stack any

3238
03:34:39,120 --> 03:34:41,399
discussion all those in

3239
03:34:41,399 --> 03:34:45,760
favor and one more that's carried

3240
03:34:45,760 --> 03:34:48,359
uh we have a recommendation that bylaw

3241
03:34:48,359 --> 03:34:51,800
88- 2024 being a bylaw to confirm the

3242
03:34:51,800 --> 03:34:53,319
proceedings of the Council of the town

3243
03:34:53,319 --> 03:34:55,680
of saging Shores he's hereby read a

3244
03:34:55,680 --> 03:34:57,399
first second and third time and finally

3245
03:34:57,399 --> 03:34:59,040
passed and seal this 11th day of

3246
03:34:59,040 --> 03:35:01,080
November 2024 can have a move in a

3247
03:35:01,080 --> 03:35:02,960
second for that moveed by councelor

3248
03:35:02,960 --> 03:35:05,239
Stack seconded by councelor Halpin all

3249
03:35:05,239 --> 03:35:06,319
those in

3250
03:35:06,319 --> 03:35:09,920
favor that's carried one more uh a

3251
03:35:09,920 --> 03:35:11,920
recommendation that this regular council

3252
03:35:11,920 --> 03:35:14,920
meeting of November the 11th 2024 hereby

3253
03:35:14,920 --> 03:35:17,640
adjourns at 10:06 PM can I have a move

3254
03:35:17,640 --> 03:35:19,399
in a second for that move by councelor

3255
03:35:19,399 --> 03:35:22,640
Stack seconded by counselor mayette any

3256
03:35:22,640 --> 03:35:24,760
discussion all those in favor the

3257
03:35:24,760 --> 03:35:29,080
meeting is adjourned thank you very much