[0:00] evening it is 6:30 members of council
[0:01] are assembled when you're ready to
[0:04] begin um thank you the mayor is away
[0:08] today so you get the deputy mayor to
[0:09] chair the meetings which could be fun um
[0:12] we'll see how it goes I'd like to call
[0:14] to order this meeting of the town of
[0:16] Sagi Shores Committee of the whole it's
[0:18] Monday November the 11th 6:30 and I'd
[0:21] like to welcome everybody into the
[0:22] chambers and um all those watching at
[0:25] home um there are a lot of people in the
[0:27] chambers it's nice when we have three
[0:29] delegations from Community groups that
[0:31] are so active um first order of business
[0:34] uh tonight because of it being
[0:35] Remembrance Day is we're going to take
[0:37] um a moment um for silent reflection
[1:29] this I'll call on councelor halin to uh
[1:32] read Our Land
[1:34] acknowledgement thank you mayor Deputy
[1:37] Mayor we acknowledge that we are meeting
[1:39] on the traditional lands and treaty
[1:41] territory of the soin of jibu nation
[1:43] which consists of the chipas of soin and
[1:46] the chipa was of Nash unseated First
[1:49] Nation we understand this land holds
[1:52] immense significance to the people of
[1:55] sing abjo Nation we appreciate those who
[1:59] live and work alongside us today and who
[2:01] continue the traditions of their
[2:04] ancestors as stewards of the land we are
[2:07] privileged to inhabit we thank them for
[2:10] the contributions that they have made in
[2:12] both caring for the land and shaping
[2:14] this community we commit to Truth and
[2:18] Reconciliation to acknowledging the
[2:20] truth about what happened to indigenous
[2:23] people because of
[2:25] colonization and to
[2:27] reconciliation which begins with each
[2:30] and every one of
[2:32] us on this Remembrance Day I would like
[2:36] to we should recognize all the people
[2:39] from San first nation that served in
[2:41] both world wars and it's worth noting
[2:44] that they really per capita exceeded
[2:49] commitment to fighting those
[2:51] Wars and we acknowledge that we respect
[2:55] that and appreciate
[2:58] that as a a local government and public
[3:01] organization we are dedicated to
[3:03] learning about indigenous culture to
[3:05] fostering a better relationship with
[3:07] First Nations and their people and we
[3:09] commit ourselves to actions that move us
[3:11] forward on a path to Healing along with
[3:15] a soling of jib Boy
[3:18] Nation thank you at this point I'll ask
[3:21] if there's any pecuniary interests that
[3:23] need to be
[3:24] disclosed seeing none you can do that at
[3:27] any point during the meeting um if you
[3:28] need to we have no additions um or
[3:31] deletions or amendments to the agenda
[3:33] and there are no open Forum requests so
[3:35] we'll move on to our three delegations
[3:37] the first one is uh from the sagin
[3:39] memorial hospital foundation and it's a
[3:42] 2024 Grand Fondo update um we're
[3:45] welcoming Graham Martin to the podium
[3:48] and Graham you have 10
[3:52] minutes you might need to turn on the
[3:55] microphone check looks like it's on uh
[3:59] terrific thank you very
[4:00] much that might not stay up for me uh so
[4:05] thank you for having me today uh my name
[4:07] is gram Martin I'm the executive
[4:08] director of the SOI Memorial Hospital
[4:10] Foundation uh I recently started in that
[4:13] position uh just in July of this last
[4:15] year uh so a couple of reasons for
[4:17] coming today one was to introduce myself
[4:20] um the second is to talk a little bit
[4:21] about Grand Fondo uh as well as our
[4:24] plans moving forward as well as to thank
[4:26] the town uh for how great you've been to
[4:29] work with uh around Grand Fondo and
[4:31] other initiatives that we've
[4:33] had we did uh hire somebody uh to help
[4:36] with the event Greg rosson from
[4:38] performance-driven events and uh as we
[4:40] had a chance to get to know him and chat
[4:43] uh he made a comment that for all of the
[4:44] events that he runs around Ontario uh
[4:47] that sogging Shores was one of the best
[4:49] places and most Cooperative groups to
[4:51] work with uh he asked that I highlight
[4:54] that he said it's not the same in every
[4:55] Township or or city that he works in uh
[4:58] he said that people here were just
[5:00] fantastic so I wanted to pass that along
[5:02] as a word of
[5:04] thanks um I guess people don't have this
[5:07] in front of them so I'll uh I'll read
[5:08] just a few stats from here uh we really
[5:11] have an expanding population and it
[5:13] brings increased demand for service as I
[5:15] know this group is well aware uh but
[5:18] speaking in terms of the hospital in the
[5:20] 2023 2024 year uh we had
[5:25] 17,9 185 emergency department visits
[5:29] 6,00
[5:30] 9787 patient days uh almost 400,000 lab
[5:35] procedures over 9,000 Radiology
[5:38] procedures over 4,000 ultrasound
[5:41] procedures among other services and one
[5:45] piece that I wanted to highlight is the
[5:47] cost that these Services is rising and
[5:50] the government typically when we're
[5:51] looking for new equipment pays less than
[5:53] 10% of that and I think that was
[5:56] something coming into this role as much
[5:57] as I knew that fundraising was necessary
[5:59] Neary I didn't fully comprehend uh just
[6:02] how much fundraising is necessary uh to
[6:05] get the equipment that's needed uh and I
[6:07] think that's really highlighted when
[6:09] we're in a growing Community such as we
[6:11] are in terms of our grand Fondo event uh
[6:15] this year we had a great success we
[6:16] brought in about
[6:19] $420,000 and that was put toward
[6:21] purchasing new mography equipment
[6:23] resulting in a higher level of care for
[6:25] SOI Shores residents and this event was
[6:28] started in 2018
[6:30] and since that time it's raised 1.7
[6:32] million uh for healthc care so that's uh
[6:36] uh terrific and uh able to put that to
[6:38] our good use we're already in the
[6:41] planning stages for Grand Fondo
[6:43] 2025 uh we're looking at the weekend of
[6:46] August 16th uh to help with our decision
[6:49] making we actually sent out a survey uh
[6:52] through a professional company we sent
[6:54] it out to participants uh as well as to
[6:56] local businesses just to get feedback
[6:59] about the things that were going well uh
[7:01] the things that we could improve upon uh
[7:03] so that we could make it the best event
[7:05] that we can in terms of participant
[7:07] surveys we had uh almost 300 writers
[7:11] that responded and I've just highlighted
[7:13] a few little pieces um 57% of the people
[7:18] who attended uh were described as
[7:20] tourists and that they lived more than
[7:22] 40 kilometers away uh 87% said that
[7:25] they're very likely to return to the
[7:27] vent and it's estimated that Riders and
[7:30] their supporters spent approximately
[7:33] $768,000 at Grand Fondo uh that came
[7:36] through a number of areas uh anything
[7:39] from accommodations uh to food to
[7:41] shopping registration fees uh but a lot
[7:44] of people and a lot of money came into
[7:46] the
[7:47] area um we also surveyed a little bit
[7:50] around days of the week uh that were
[7:52] preferred in terms of Saturday or Sunday
[7:54] this is the first year that we had a
[7:55] Saturday event uh we did find that
[7:57] Riders overwhelmingly prefer the
[7:59] Saturday event um a few people said that
[8:03] they didn't have a preference but the
[8:04] majority preferred Saturday uh so even
[8:07] though we're in the initial stages of
[8:08] our planning uh we do anticipate that it
[8:11] will be on a
[8:12] Saturday in terms of the business survey
[8:15] um I tried to communicate with
[8:16] businesses uh leading up to the Grand
[8:19] Fondo because I was new to the position
[8:21] um I did go around to the businesses
[8:23] with a communication ahead of time uh
[8:25] letting them know the date the time what
[8:27] to expect those types of things um when
[8:30] we sent the survey around we didn't have
[8:32] a great response but we did have uh
[8:34] seven people who returned the survey uh
[8:37] and we really had a mixed bag we had
[8:39] some describe it as one of their best
[8:41] business days ever because of the influx
[8:43] of people uh we had others who described
[8:45] it as one of their worst business days
[8:47] ever uh because they didn't like the the
[8:49] downtown core being closed for the
[8:51] period of time that it
[8:53] was so I think moving forward uh and
[8:56] looking at the data from the surveys
[8:58] from the money that's been raised uh we
[9:01] feel that it's been a tremendously
[9:03] successful event uh it was named a top
[9:05] 2024 event or pardon me a top 100 event
[9:08] in
[9:09] 2024 uh and our intent is to continue to
[9:12] prioritize the grand Fondo as our
[9:14] Premier event uh we're always going to
[9:16] be looking for ways to improve um one of
[9:19] those areas will be around communication
[9:21] making sure that we're working with
[9:23] businesses and community members uh that
[9:25] so there aren't surprises and that we
[9:27] can uh put on a great event um I also
[9:30] want to acknowledge the business owners
[9:32] uh they've been supportive in lots of
[9:34] different ways uh I know this year we
[9:36] came around looking for prizes for a
[9:38] casino night that we had at the same
[9:39] time uh and they've been fantastic so we
[9:42] do want to work with them uh and we're
[9:44] hopeful that we can have a great grand
[9:46] Fondo event while at the same time uh be
[9:49] able to support businesses in our
[9:52] community so in terms of how the town
[9:54] can help I've just put a few little
[9:56] bullets here and again doing amazing
[9:58] things for us already so continuing that
[10:01] would be fantastic help us spread the
[10:03] word about our events uh share our posts
[10:05] on your local social media watch your
[10:08] mailbox for our fall and spring campaign
[10:10] letters uh participate donate or
[10:13] volunteer and uh we also request that
[10:16] Council again if possible wave the
[10:18] rental fee for a grand Fondo weekend so
[10:20] that all funds raised can be maximized
[10:22] and contributed to the
[10:24] hospital uh and I'll just put in one
[10:26] last plug we do have our radio thaon
[10:28] coming up it's Thursday December the
[10:30] 12th 6:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. uh and it's
[10:33] it's traditionally been a great event
[10:34] for the hospital so anybody is welcome
[10:36] to drop by if you'd like to be on the
[10:38] radio uh 98 the Bruce we'd love to have
[10:40] you there as a guest and we're looking
[10:42] forward to another successful event
[10:45] thank you very
[10:47] much thank you Mr Martin there were a
[10:50] number of requests there which uh the
[10:51] normal procedure is that um they get
[10:54] referred over to staff and we we get
[10:56] information and a report at at a later
[10:59] date concerning that concerning the asks
[11:01] um however I'll open it up to members of
[11:04] council any comments or questions
[11:05] councelor
[11:07] Grace thank you Madame Deputy Mayor um
[11:11] thank you gram and everyone on your
[11:14] board and and volunteer staff who help
[11:18] put this on and all the work you do to
[11:20] fund raise we're really fortunate to
[11:23] have um our hospital um in our community
[11:28] and uh I appreciate everything you're
[11:30] doing to support that um I've just got a
[11:33] question I don't know if I missed it
[11:34] somehow but um you talked about your
[11:37] survey and there were 289 writers that
[11:40] responded how many writers did you have
[11:43] in total oh sorry I don't think I did
[11:45] include that we had roughly 800 writers
[11:48] okay great and do you know how many what
[11:51] percentage of those are from out of town
[11:53] we don't for sure we can only sort of
[11:55] Project based on the people who uh
[11:57] completed the survey and from from the
[11:59] survey company I understand a response
[12:01] rate for this type of thing was fairly
[12:04] High even though initially it does sound
[12:06] fairly low but if you projected out uh
[12:08] you'd be looking at probably 70 or 80%
[12:11] of people 40 kilometers or more away
[12:14] well the amount spent um that weekend
[12:18] that's incredible so thank you very much
[12:21] um for your for your work again and your
[12:25] presentation and we do have a great
[12:27] staff and a great team of volunteers and
[12:29] and great support around the community
[12:31] so thank you as
[12:32] well are there any other comments
[12:35] questions councelor
[12:40] divinski thank you acting mayor um I
[12:44] just wanted to put in dibs that I've
[12:46] already booked in 7:30 a.m. on the uh
[12:51] radiothon on December 12th I believe you
[12:54] said grahe uh 6:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. you
[12:57] know the routine get in there give us
[12:58] your money have something to eat get out
[13:02] okay no not at all but uh enjoy yourself
[13:06] and I will be there uh helping out
[13:09] during that time and also helping out
[13:12] financially thank you we appreciate that
[13:15] thank you very much and that also sounds
[13:17] like a little bit of a challenge or an
[13:18] opportunity uh to spread the words so
[13:21] thank you for heading that
[13:23] off seeing no other comments I'll just
[13:26] offer um a repeat of what councelor gra
[13:29] said thank you very much for what you do
[13:31] for the community and um we look forward
[13:33] to hearing more seeing more and talking
[13:36] more about this over the next couple of
[13:37] months great thank you very much our
[13:41] second delegation tonight is from the
[13:43] Sagen Rail Trail Association another
[13:45] very active uh local group it's their
[13:47] annual update and I'll ask Dela AI did I
[13:51] come close with your name to come to the
[13:53] microphone you have 10 minutes sir hi
[13:56] can you hear
[13:57] me it's de a
[14:02] but so thanks for having me this will be
[14:04] fairly brief um I'm the president of the
[14:08] so real Trail Association that simply
[14:11] means I had a bunch of uh volunteers who
[14:15] spend a lot of time maintaining the
[14:17] trails that we love in the neighborhood
[14:20] so uh thanks to those who are here and
[14:22] thanks to those who are not here um I
[14:25] have only three slides really
[14:26] highlighting how 2024 went and
[14:29] summarizing what we plan for them next
[14:32] year um the first thing i' like to say
[14:35] off comment is that thanks very much to
[14:38] uh Council here and the town staff for
[14:40] working with us since I've joined the uh
[14:43] rail trail um Association it's been a
[14:45] great relationship um and um long may
[14:49] that
[14:49] continue um in 2024 we so our the trails
[14:54] are connected to several different
[14:56] Trails so each year we pick sections
[14:58] that we Main maintain and depending on
[15:00] what's needed we maintain it with you
[15:03] know we buy rocks and gravel and stuff
[15:05] like that and then community members
[15:07] show up with their equipment and their
[15:09] time and then we do the work so in
[15:11] essence that's what we do so in 2024 we
[15:16] upgraded the surface area between uh the
[15:18] 10th concession and Highway
[15:21] 21 and then along various parts of the
[15:24] trail there were number of trees and
[15:27] shrubs planted and then all those things
[15:30] need to be maintained throughout the
[15:32] year so volunteers show up and water the
[15:34] plant and keep everything looking nice
[15:36] and fresh um and then also along
[15:38] different parts of the trail we have
[15:40] folks patrolling and doing maintenance
[15:41] where there are issues we go and fix
[15:43] things um and along the trail are
[15:46] different areas with Gardens and grass
[15:48] that needs to be cut so again we have a
[15:50] schedule and folks show up and do that
[15:54] um hopefully because we're still in
[15:56] November we might by the end of this
[15:58] year have finished the um resurfacing
[16:02] from Highway 21 to South Street but that
[16:06] depends on the weather so if we not able
[16:08] to do that I'll push into next year's
[16:12] plan going to next year um the next
[16:15] patch we would like to resurface will be
[16:17] the area from South Street to McNab
[16:20] Street and then as we surface the trail
[16:22] we sort of clean around the brush and
[16:25] the bush around that um one area of
[16:28] particular importance to me uh is really
[16:32] we continue to advocate for safety
[16:34] around the connection between the trail
[16:35] and Highway 21 we understand that this
[16:39] is really more of an advocacy from the
[16:41] town as it's an MTO decision but this is
[16:45] an area that concerns a lot of people so
[16:47] we hope um we can get that resolved and
[16:50] it's not a tragedy that forces us to do
[16:52] that because I have been driving and
[16:54] seen people just standing there
[16:55] terrified to cross so that's quite a bit
[16:57] of a problem having said that we will
[17:00] still also like to improve sort of the
[17:03] um just as you stand there we want to be
[17:05] able to pave some of the shoulders to
[17:07] avoid a tripping Hazard particularly for
[17:09] folks who might have Mobility
[17:11] devices um but generally we want to
[17:13] improve safety in that particular area
[17:16] we will continue in 2025 with uh Trail
[17:19] maintenance along different
[17:21] portions um I would like to mention also
[17:23] that we plant trees and we get a lot of
[17:26] donations from trees for S green and
[17:29] also the town so I like to specifically
[17:30] call that out that will continue um and
[17:34] the trail has different access points
[17:36] and so those nodes have to be fixed and
[17:38] so that's in the
[17:40] plan additionally um we will repair and
[17:44] replace park benches and upgrade certain
[17:47] permeable bases in areas that you
[17:50] caned so at a high level that is the
[17:53] plan for
[17:55] 2025 um again to reiterate this is an
[17:58] organiz ganization of volunteers who
[18:00] donate their time their equipment um
[18:03] sometimes family show show up with their
[18:05] kids and do all the work and um I also
[18:08] like to say that we get a lot of thanks
[18:11] from community members um I was having a
[18:14] conversation with someone and I
[18:15] mentioned that probably the town can
[18:17] relate you know of 100 people who use
[18:19] your roads one person might call to
[18:21] complain about a p hole but there are
[18:23] thousands who enjoy it and don't say
[18:25] anything um but we appreciate both all
[18:28] the same um thanks for the comments open
[18:31] to any questions thanks for the time
[18:32] sorry open to any questions and
[18:34] comments thank you very much and again
[18:37] um any any followup will happen uh via
[18:41] our staff bringing us information but
[18:43] any comments questions from from members
[18:44] of council councelor
[18:47] Grace uh thank you Madame Deputy Mayor
[18:51] um thanks Stella for uh your leadership
[18:54] and the leadership of your board and all
[18:56] the work of the volunteers to keep this
[18:59] uh amazing uh resource open for us um I
[19:04] have a question actually for our manager
[19:06] of engineering uh to see if he has an
[19:09] update for us on the um Highway 21
[19:12] Crossing just a little bit of background
[19:14] that the town did uh present a
[19:18] delegation to the Ministry of
[19:20] Transportation in January of
[19:23] 2023 and uh I know that our staff has
[19:26] been diligent in in trying to work with
[19:29] the Ministry of Transportation to come
[19:31] to a resolution so um I asked Rahul if
[19:34] he would actually say something about
[19:35] that tonight I think he's got something
[19:38] to tell
[19:50] us good evening and through you Deputy
[19:54] Mayor with the councelor
[19:56] grace um actually I am working U on this
[20:02] Crossing since I
[20:05] started last year in March
[20:09] one I did also some research I found
[20:12] that actually this thing started maybe
[20:15] 20 years
[20:16] back I have all the documents actually I
[20:19] saved
[20:21] them in my
[20:23] folder anyway so um I have the documents
[20:27] that actually I did the followup with
[20:30] MTU uh at least from since last
[20:35] May I actually sent around 20 sorry 10
[20:40] emails to MTO and undering
[20:45] updates uh and we also had one meeting
[20:48] with them uh I think in last
[20:51] June and uh
[20:55] uh the problem is uh they have so many
[20:58] Chang changes in their in their Staffing
[21:01] uh Staffing that uh they lost track they
[21:05] lost track of this system like every
[21:08] time I U reached out to them I got new
[21:13] person who is dealing with this thing uh
[21:16] they have a office they called it uh
[21:19] Corridor management office they actually
[21:22] deal this thing on behalf of
[21:26] MTO uh so the last person actually now
[21:29] is dealing his name is Andrew
[21:32] Robertson uh he's the corridor
[21:34] management officer we had a meeting with
[21:36] them in last uh I think June 10th and in
[21:41] that meeting actually right after that
[21:43] meeting I followed up with the some ask
[21:47] that we received from The Rail Trail
[21:50] Association I
[21:53] asked to improve The Pedestrian crossing
[21:56] lights or install pedestrian causing
[21:59] lights at the
[22:01] intersection asphalt on both sides
[22:04] approaches just to make a smooth
[22:08] transition installing more visible
[22:11] signes on Highway 21 for this
[22:15] Crossing and then other options that
[22:17] like elevated Crossing Calvert Crossing
[22:21] for
[22:22] pedestrian asphalt shoulders all along
[22:25] the de section
[22:29] uh the response I got from
[22:32] MTO that that was only the one kind of
[22:35] positive response they said that MTU has
[22:39] facilitated several internal internal
[22:42] meetings to bring our functional offices
[22:47] back to back into discussions about this
[22:51] Crossing and that guy actually told that
[22:53] I am uh waiting some additional for some
[22:56] additional comments to be submitted
[22:59] back to our Corridor management office
[23:01] and we will forward them to you when
[23:04] made available so I received this uh
[23:09] email that was on uh I think on June
[23:13] 26 then again I followed up in July
[23:17] 26 one month after and the last response
[23:21] I received from them is August
[23:25] 27 uh they said thanks for following up
[23:27] on this application and your continued
[23:32] patience MTO Corridor management office
[23:35] is experiencing some internal Staffing
[23:40] changes and responsibilities and an
[23:45] unprecedented volume of permit inquiries
[23:48] at this time we will endeavor to further
[23:52] process the trail permits and additional
[23:55] approvals should be made available
[23:57] shortly that I received last August 27
[24:01] and since then I also followed up couple
[24:04] of uh email in in September in October
[24:08] also just today and waiting for their
[24:11] response but since August 27 I haven't
[24:15] received any respones long
[24:18] M that's the
[24:22] update thank you very much for that rul
[24:25] um you as well as a number of other
[24:27] staff members Contin to ask questions
[24:30] and I know members of council have also
[24:32] taken opportunities at conferences so we
[24:34] just must keep trying thank you very
[24:36] much are there any other comments
[24:38] councelor halin thank you Deputy Mayor
[24:40] and through you I'd just like to I am
[24:44] the council representative on the rail
[24:46] trail and I'm honored to work with the
[24:49] rail trail and uh I'd like to thank all
[24:51] the members of the association and their
[24:54] volunteers for their commitment and
[24:56] contribution to the community the real
[24:58] Trail is a lot more than just a
[25:00] trail it's it it's the benches it's the
[25:05] trees it's the bird houses it's the
[25:08] facilities like the rail trail building
[25:10] and the Memorial Garden it's the trees
[25:12] planted it's the flower gardens and it's
[25:15] also the mobilization of all kinds of
[25:18] volunteers formal and informal that do
[25:21] everything from putting up the bird
[25:22] houses to cutting lawn along the side so
[25:25] thank you to all the committee members
[25:27] because you've made a a great
[25:29] contribution to our community and I
[25:31] could imagine what our community would
[25:33] be like without that rail trail so thank
[25:44] you are there any other comments okay
[25:47] our third delegation tonight is from
[25:50] cfuw the Canadian Federation of
[25:52] University women Southport chapter um
[25:55] odet bar Bart Niki is going to make
[25:58] presentation on National Day of
[26:00] remembrance and action on violence
[26:02] against women you have 10
[26:04] minutes Madame Deputy Mayor Huber
[26:07] members of council staff zfu members and
[26:13] fellow citizens of sogging
[26:15] chores as you heard my name is odet
[26:18] bartnicki and I'm here on behalf of 115
[26:21] members of the Canadian Federation of
[26:24] women Southport we use the acronym cfuw
[26:28] you for short we are here to support the
[26:31] notice of motion put forth by counselor
[26:34] Grace asking Council to declare intimate
[26:38] partner violence ipv an
[26:42] epidemic for 33 years on December 6
[26:46] annually cfuw Southport has hosted a
[26:50] vigil in remembrance of the 14 young
[26:53] women who were killed simply because
[26:56] they were women at a coal po technique
[26:59] in Montreal in
[27:02] 1989 many members of council have
[27:05] attended the vigil over the years and we
[27:08] hope you will do so again this
[27:11] year when I spoke before Council on
[27:14] November 27th
[27:17] 2023 I mentioned other municipalities
[27:20] including our neighbors karton to the
[27:23] South which had already declared that
[27:27] ipv is an
[27:29] epidemic I was then asked by a member of
[27:33] council about my use of the term
[27:35] epidemic to describe
[27:39] ipv I didn't answer that question very
[27:41] well last
[27:43] year but tonight I will share with you
[27:46] Miriam Webster's definition of epidemic
[27:50] and I
[27:51] quote affecting or tending to affect a
[27:56] disproportionately large number of the
[27:58] individuals within a population
[28:01] community or
[28:02] region excessively
[28:05] prevalent or characterized by WID spread
[28:09] growth or
[28:12] extent sadly the incidence of violence
[28:15] against women intimate partner violence
[28:18] human trafficking and femicide does meet
[28:21] that
[28:23] definition one woman or girl is killed
[28:27] in Canada every 48
[28:30] hours over 50% of all murders in Canada
[28:35] are classified as
[28:37] femicides and they are ipv related ipv
[28:41] meaning a former or present
[28:44] partner Ontario alone has seen 52
[28:48] femicides in 44
[28:50] weeks and the most recent that you will
[28:53] have seen in the news is an Ottawa
[28:55] mother of four killed in broad daylight
[28:58] just a couple of weeks
[29:00] ago rural communities like ours are 75%
[29:05] more likely to experience ipv than urban
[29:09] areas and we have fewer resources to
[29:13] support the victims and their
[29:16] families sadly four out of 10 shelter
[29:20] residents we have the three shelters uh
[29:23] available to us four out of 10 residents
[29:26] are children
[29:28] and they attend our local
[29:30] schools 44% of Canadian women have
[29:35] experienced a form of
[29:37] ipv uh after the age of 15 indigenous
[29:41] women are three times more likely to
[29:43] experience
[29:45] this two in three people in this room
[29:49] know a woman who has experienced
[29:52] physical sexual or emotional abuse and
[29:56] some of those women are in in the room
[29:58] with us
[30:00] tonight most incidents go unreported to
[30:03] police who are required by law to report
[30:07] occurrences of Domestic and Sexual
[30:10] Violence human trafficking and domestic
[30:13] homicide to a federal database every
[30:17] year our local police have given us
[30:19] those data that data between April
[30:24] 2018 and March 2024 so six years
[30:28] basically sogging Shores police reported
[30:32] hold on to your hats
[30:35] 633 occurrences in three of the four
[30:40] categories thankfully no femicide was
[30:43] reported in this period but we think
[30:47] those numbers do meet the definition of
[30:53] epidemic we want to acknowledge our
[30:56] local police service has provided its
[30:58] specialized ipv response training which
[31:02] is not included in the 2-year police
[31:04] College training programs in our
[31:06] Province they provided it to nine of our
[31:09] officers which we think is just
[31:12] fabulous sing chores Police Service has
[31:16] also been a proactive partner in raising
[31:19] awareness locally along with Bruce gry
[31:22] Public
[31:24] Health council members may be aware that
[31:27] just last week over
[31:29] 250 citizens gathered at Faith Lutheran
[31:32] Church in Port Elgen to participate in
[31:36] the anti-human trafficking event hosted
[31:39] by Port Elgen
[31:41] rotary that shows how many people in our
[31:44] community here and we know our community
[31:47] cares we know you care too we are aware
[31:52] that in January of this year you
[31:55] endorsed the Declaration made by Gage we
[31:59] hope you will join over 100 other
[32:02] Ontario
[32:04] municipalities and vote to make the
[32:06] Declaration that intimate partner
[32:08] violence is an epidemic when it comes
[32:12] back before you on November
[32:14] 25th we invite members of council and
[32:18] all members of our community to join us
[32:21] at our 34th annual vigil at 12: noon at
[32:26] Coulter parquette on December 6 this is
[32:29] the day we Mark national day of
[32:32] remembrance and action on violence
[32:35] against women we also ask as we did in
[32:39] previous years that the town's flag be
[32:41] lowered on that
[32:43] day together these actions demonstrate
[32:47] that all forms of gender-based violence
[32:50] are not acceptable in sogging chores and
[32:53] most importantly that sends a message to
[32:57] our victim
[32:58] it sends a message of Hope to them and
[33:00] their
[33:02] families finally our sincere thanks to
[33:05] counselor Grace for bringing the notice
[33:07] of motion before
[33:09] you and thank you all for allowing us to
[33:15] delegate thank you odet um there was a
[33:17] request there related to the flag um do
[33:21] we need to do
[33:22] anything they've already got it on on a
[33:25] schedule there are there any comments
[33:28] questions from any member of council
[33:30] councelor daninsky
[33:33] thank you acting mayor and through you
[33:37] toet odet thank you very much uh for
[33:40] that presentation thank you to the cfuw
[33:44] Southport for all they do especially at
[33:48] this time of year um there are many
[33:51] people that can't get to a noon
[33:55] presentation on December 6th and I fall
[33:58] into that category this this year is
[34:02] there something else we can do to be to
[34:05] be part of
[34:08] this we have discussed holding it at
[34:11] different times and I I dare say we will
[34:14] again we are aware of that um something
[34:17] else that's changed for us is our
[34:19] membership which is about5 as we we
[34:23] stand tonight uh many of them are
[34:26] full-time working people
[34:28] so that's changing our organization as
[34:30] well and that's something we'll take
[34:32] back and discuss our our chairs are in
[34:34] the room tonight for that
[34:37] committee he thank you and if I may
[34:40] acting mayor um I don't know I can't
[34:43] recall and with all due respect who
[34:48] said asked you for a definition of that
[34:52] pandemic as I've heard my good friend uh
[34:56] Vice Deputy Mayor my might say time and
[34:59] time again on one subject or another
[35:01] even one case is one too many and I
[35:07] stand by that and I do agree with you
[35:11] there is an epidemic and it has to be
[35:14] addressed thank you very much thank you
[35:16] if I could just add one more comment we
[35:20] do um use three shelters for women in
[35:24] our community and members of
[35:28] cfuw um do take donations around the
[35:31] vigil and we take it um e transfers
[35:34] checks cash in your pocket if you happen
[35:37] to show up and then we make little
[35:39] visits in in pairs and last year I was
[35:42] struck um going with uh one of our
[35:45] members down to Karden new Young manager
[35:48] there and she told us that the three
[35:50] shelters had not had one cent in
[35:53] increase for over six
[35:56] years however the incidents and the need
[35:59] they do at all three shelters have to
[36:01] turn people away and sometimes it's
[36:04] people with
[36:05] children so um that's another thing we
[36:08] do is we do try to support our shelters
[36:11] a little bit around that occasion thank
[36:13] you thank you councelor stack and then
[36:16] councelor hin so thank you for the
[36:19] presentation um I just wanted to make
[36:21] one note on uh domestic violence in our
[36:24] community so I used to sit on the board
[36:27] for the women's house in Karden and I
[36:29] had the opportunity to help a woman who
[36:32] was the victim of abuse and I sort of
[36:35] experienced I watched her do the intake
[36:37] which can be quite traumatic and um
[36:41] unintentionally dehumanizing you have to
[36:44] basically strip down the to one layer of
[36:47] clothing everything you own gets washed
[36:49] for fear of you know any manner of of
[36:51] issues that can come in in shared
[36:53] housing um and then you have to sort
[36:55] through that and you have to do that
[36:56] before you actually enter the shelter
[36:58] itself so there's an intake Bay where
[37:00] you're sat with um a representative
[37:03] yourself you have your children you go
[37:05] through this process before you even
[37:06] enter the services if I recall you get
[37:09] six or eight weeks there and then you go
[37:10] into second stage housing and the second
[37:12] stage housing can be very challenging
[37:14] and you're often dealing with women in
[37:18] this case who are very economically
[37:21] disadvantage so people who may never
[37:23] have earned income who have never filed
[37:25] their taxes who are struggling to manage
[37:28] through the trauma of that abuse
[37:30] managing their children managing a new
[37:32] home typically away from their families
[37:35] um so I share that as just a a to sort
[37:37] of reiterate and reinforce the
[37:39] significant effect that do domestic
[37:41] violence can have on women in this
[37:43] community and I think because of the
[37:45] affluence in our community it often goes
[37:48] unnoticed but there are shelters as you
[37:50] noted in Port Elgen and K Carden in owwn
[37:53] that are always full um and so I think
[37:56] when we talk about and I know the motion
[37:58] comes in regular Council but when we
[37:59] talk about recognizing the epidemic I
[38:01] think it's I will certainly support that
[38:03] I think it's also important to recognize
[38:05] just the sheer impact that these events
[38:07] can have on women and it is often a
[38:09] cycle and it often takes when you're in
[38:11] those situations it's often many times
[38:14] they have been through the shelter
[38:15] system or gotten close to the shelter
[38:17] system before they actually make it out
[38:18] so I think it's just important to
[38:19] recognize how significant that impact
[38:21] can
[38:24] be councelor halin
[38:28] thank you and through you Deputy Mayor
[38:30] odet and to your group just as a a
[38:34] brother who has four sisters and uh a
[38:38] father who has three daughters thank you
[38:41] thank
[38:46] you any other councelor
[38:49] Grace thank you Deputy Mayor um I I know
[38:54] that odet mentioned the fact that uh our
[38:56] Police Services and our police chief um
[39:01] have worked with cfuw
[39:04] Southport um
[39:07] to provide um I think some joint funding
[39:13] and uh that's being used to assist with
[39:18] um promotional materials and educational
[39:21] Publications and that kind of thing and
[39:23] so I would just want to make um a note
[39:26] of the fact that I appreciate the the
[39:30] leadership um not just of cfuw Southport
[39:34] and the team that's uh setting up and
[39:37] running our vigil this year but also uh
[39:39] our Police Services who usually provide
[39:41] a speaker who provide upto-date
[39:45] um statistics for us and to provide that
[39:48] monetary support um to and and I know
[39:53] from having attended the um anti-human
[39:56] trafficking um seminar on Wednesday
[39:59] night um and hearing the comments of
[40:02] Inspector Jeremy miten uh on what's
[40:06] Happening that our police services does
[40:08] so much more on this issue um to support
[40:12] victims so thank
[40:16] you thank you councelor Grace that that
[40:18] was going to be a comment I made as we
[40:20] we Segway over to the next part of our
[40:22] meeting just to say that um I can't be
[40:25] sure because I can't see the viewership
[40:27] on on my computer screen but I do
[40:28] believe um a number of police officers
[40:31] police Personnel are are zoomed in
[40:34] watching us on YouTube and and your
[40:36] comments um will be very appreciated by
[40:39] the service and also by The Police
[40:41] Service Board that councelor daninsky
[40:42] and I will take those comments with us
[40:44] um to the next Police Service board
[40:47] meeting seeing the end of the
[40:49] delegations we have no public meetings
[40:51] tonight we'll move on now to um staff
[40:54] reports um the first one up um will be
[40:57] of interest to some people in the
[40:58] audience it's about the Aquatic and
[41:00] Wellness Center operations and
[41:01] management plan so um without further
[41:05] Ado um I will call on Lisa billing to
[41:10] make a
[41:13] presentation I I thought by giving you
[41:15] that intro some some of them might have
[41:18] stayed Aquatics and Wellness Center I
[41:21] appreciate intro
[41:55] Okay so
[41:58] thank you Deputy Mayor Huber and members
[42:00] of council tonight I am excited to share
[42:02] the draft operations and management plan
[42:05] for the new sogging Shores Aquatic and
[42:06] Wellness Center commonly referred to as
[42:08] the
[42:09] AWC also included as attachments with
[42:12] the draft plan are the results summary
[42:14] from this Summer's Community engagement
[42:16] campaign and a draft framework for the
[42:19] aw for the proposed AWC fees and charges
[42:22] the draft plan is a result of advancing
[42:25] the AWC activation and trans transtion
[42:27] plans throughout 2024 and integrates
[42:29] feedback received during Community
[42:31] engagement the intent of the draft plan
[42:33] is to provide council with a high level
[42:35] overview of the approach and principles
[42:37] guiding the operational planning for the
[42:39] AWC and to seek Council
[42:42] feedback overall there is General
[42:44] excitement in the community about the
[42:46] programming and possibilities available
[42:47] at the ad and the possibilities at the
[42:49] AWC key themes that came through the
[42:52] community engagement include a place for
[42:55] families to participate together that
[42:57] membership options are important there's
[43:00] a desire for Innovative programs that
[43:02] maximize multi-use facility areas
[43:04] recreational Sport and play for all ages
[43:07] programming Beyond physical health and
[43:09] movement a desire for cross programming
[43:12] between facility areas adults and
[43:15] seniors who want to improve their
[43:16] physical health with community and with
[43:19] each other welcoming Community use like
[43:22] rentals and that barrier-free access
[43:24] including Financial access is important
[43:27] these themes have been considered while
[43:28] developing the draft plan and they
[43:30] continue they will continue to guide the
[43:32] detailed planning and development of
[43:34] programming Service delivery and
[43:35] operational standards the draft plan is
[43:38] focused around key seven key operational
[43:40] areas highlighted in the report each
[43:43] section of the report includes a summary
[43:45] of that section and the page number
[43:47] where information can be located within
[43:49] the within the
[43:50] report or within the plan itself key
[43:53] areas of the plan include Community
[43:56] engagement operational objectives
[43:58] performance and service
[44:00] levels General operations marketing and
[44:04] Communications affordable Recreation
[44:07] Financial forecasts and risk
[44:09] analysis within the general operations
[44:12] section the plan speaks to hours of
[44:14] operating areas of
[44:17] responsibility participation
[44:18] participation structures and program
[44:21] development it has been just over a year
[44:23] since I presented the AWC activation
[44:25] plans Act ation and transition plans to
[44:28] council about 13 months if we want to
[44:30] really get down to it um it is an
[44:33] incredible feeling to be standing here
[44:35] tonight in front of council to share
[44:37] with you what we heard from the
[44:38] community and how that feedback has
[44:39] helped to shape the draft plan is
[44:41] delivered tonight a final plan will be
[44:43] presented in Q2 of 2025 along with a
[44:46] recommendation to amend the 2025 fees
[44:49] and charges bylaw the final plan is
[44:51] intended to further refine the AWC
[44:53] program and service offerings as well as
[44:56] the program structure
[44:57] outline a preliminary opening schedule
[45:00] support the proposed AWC fees and
[45:02] charges and outline criteria for
[45:04] accessing the affordable Recreation
[45:06] program I would like to thank our staff
[45:08] team Council and the community for their
[45:10] support that has got us to this point
[45:12] feedback and support has been integral
[45:15] integral to the development of this
[45:16] draft plan and will continue to guide us
[45:19] as we advance towards opening the doors
[45:22] and bringing this new operation to life
[45:24] thank you for your time and I welcome
[45:26] questions and comments from members of
[45:28] council thank you to the manager of
[45:30] recreation for her report are there any
[45:33] comments questions the vice Deputy Mayor
[45:35] yep thank you Deputy Mayor um Lisa
[45:38] thanks very much for this report you've
[45:40] uh you really aced it uh that that
[45:43] that's tremendous amount of work and uh
[45:46] it's so well laid out very impressive
[45:48] and U it really sets the course you know
[45:51] for next November when we open up our
[45:53] facility so I really really commend you
[45:55] for the uh excellent job you've done I
[45:58] did have a few uh comments questions um
[46:02] the I was interested when we looked at
[46:04] the five key areas of Aquatics
[46:06] Recreation Fitness Leisure and
[46:09] stem um that caught my eye and U there's
[46:13] a strong interest in STEM related
[46:15] activities include robotics coding
[46:18] classes science experiments both
[46:21] children and
[46:22] adults so that really caught my eye in
[46:25] terms of this is an aquatic and Wellness
[46:27] Center so H how did that come about yes
[46:31] so through you uh Deputy Mayor we
[46:34] included that just as another area of
[46:38] activity that the community is
[46:40] interested in so Leisure and social
[46:43] activities combined into Aquatics and
[46:45] wellness but we thought let's just ask a
[46:47] couple questions outside of you know
[46:50] kind of that core Recreation programming
[46:53] um so we wanted to dabble into the area
[46:55] around stem to see if was interest in
[46:57] the community we recognize that there
[46:59] are Partners we're standing in the
[47:01] nuclear Innovation Institute they offer
[47:04] uh some amazing programming around um
[47:07] Robotics and um Ai and all of the stem
[47:12] activities that they are doing as part
[47:14] of their explore program um so I think
[47:17] it's not necessarily an area that we
[47:19] would lead all on our own but maybe look
[47:22] to work with Partners if there's an
[47:23] opportunity to expand that programming
[47:25] even more broadly
[47:27] okay I just Aquatics Wellness Center I
[47:31] just I I I was just wondering what path
[47:33] were heading down with their programming
[47:35] that's all but it was an interesting U
[47:37] it was an interesting read when I saw
[47:39] that um the uh the other comments I had
[47:44] was about that I didn't see in here was
[47:46] I know people do travel on sound for
[47:48] this program it's a cardiac rehab
[47:50] program uh which very popular over there
[47:53] maybe I missed it in the report but is
[47:55] that something we will be considering I
[47:57] know there's the medical profession has
[47:58] to be involved obviously doctors nurses
[48:00] Etc but it's a very successful program
[48:03] over there and it's save an our drive to
[48:05] get to that program is that something
[48:06] we're considering as part of the Aquatic
[48:08] and wellness center it's not something
[48:11] that's currently part of this dra plan I
[48:13] think that would be a discussion with uh
[48:15] bright Shores in terms of where those
[48:18] programs operate and if that's something
[48:20] that we are interested in integrating
[48:23] into the AWC I really think we should
[48:25] consider it because and you worked in
[48:28] sou family why years ago and it it's a
[48:30] very popular program I don't know
[48:31] whether it is still today but over the
[48:33] years I've had many people comment
[48:34] that've got to drive D and sound for the
[48:36] program and I think why not do it right
[48:38] here because I think that can attract
[48:39] some some some some you know different
[48:42] clientele users into our facility and
[48:44] what a better way to rehabilitate than
[48:46] get into the PO for some cardiac rehab
[48:50] so I think that' be something if if
[48:52] staff could consider I think it be a
[48:53] good thing um on page uh 25 a bit of a
[48:59] concern for me and that's the free uh
[49:02] Community walking time and you know I
[49:06] I'm sure people in the community that
[49:08] mind gu you know cutting out free
[49:10] community walking time for the walking
[49:11] Track but you know in year one I think I
[49:14] read a $1.2 million operating deficit
[49:16] it's going to come down
[49:17] substantially in year two to 4 500 and
[49:21] then all the way down to zero hopefully
[49:22] in the over the next four five six years
[49:25] but I think we ought to to be careful
[49:27] with with giving out uh too many free
[49:31] things right in the beginning because
[49:33] you give it out free in the beginning
[49:34] it's really hard to charge lader and uh
[49:37] I I saw with this a six-month walking
[49:39] Track membership but I guess my question
[49:41] is and I think that's a good thing take
[49:44] my wife for example one thing she'
[49:45] joined is pay $100 $150 every six months
[49:49] for to use the walking Track however if
[49:53] you know if you know if you had if you
[49:55] had 3 400 those at $60,000 a
[49:59] year potentially um but you got free
[50:03] walking Track Time mornings afternoons
[50:05] and evenings and weekends and that that
[50:08] caught my eye too Lisa in terms of I I'm
[50:11] not sure we should be doing that and and
[50:13] what so what you know the people that
[50:17] were thinking about buying memberships
[50:18] for the walking Track and I think we
[50:20] need to think to take a look at all
[50:22] revenues um why why would people just
[50:26] not go morning afternoons evenings
[50:28] weekends to the free walking time and
[50:32] and foro the
[50:34] membership uh through you Deputy Mayor
[50:38] the intention for the free indoor track
[50:41] access um is not necessarily to say that
[50:44] it's every weekday every weekend every
[50:46] evening um there would be defined times
[50:50] um where access would be provided at no
[50:54] cost however um it wouldn't be all of
[50:57] the time um so that is sort of the
[50:59] intention of how council could support
[51:03] um free participation through sort of
[51:06] scheduled program times it did it did
[51:09] say afternoon evening weekends and um I
[51:12] just think if someone's going to go to
[51:13] use a walking Track three or four times
[51:14] a week why buy the membership for $150
[51:17] for six months why not just go to the
[51:19] free walking times I just think we need
[51:21] to take a look at with with when I take
[51:24] a look at a $1.2 million offering
[51:26] deficit year one I know that's a little
[51:27] misleading I get that um but because it
[51:30] really dropped substantially a year two
[51:32] as full memberships come in for the full
[51:33] year but I really think we should take a
[51:35] look at what what we're giving away with
[51:38] our $50 million facility that we ought
[51:41] to be very careful with that so we just
[51:43] want to plant that seed for uh the fees
[51:45] and charges will come to council when
[51:48] when we'll be able to take a look at
[51:49] that walking Track membership for
[51:51] example yeah it will come to Council in
[51:53] Q2 um of 2025 so probably around May or
[51:57] June next year May or June well look
[52:00] I'll be speaking to that again when it
[52:02] comes I because I just think we ought
[52:04] ought to take a look at that
[52:07] um one second
[52:10] here my organized
[52:13] notes I think um you know on page
[52:18] um 24 I think no no there was in one of
[52:22] the pages anyway it said 85% of those
[52:24] surveyed felt that keeping the Aquatic
[52:26] and Wellness Center affordable as a high
[52:28] priority and um you know I think it's
[52:31] important to not turn people away people
[52:34] who can afford to pay need to pay but
[52:37] people cannot afford to pay I'm glad to
[52:39] see that there's a subsidy program in
[52:40] there I think that's really important
[52:42] and uh so I'm glad that's that's
[52:44] included and um because we need you know
[52:48] I I think it's important regardless of
[52:50] your ability to pay you need to able to
[52:51] use the
[52:52] facility um
[52:59] I think that's all I had had had for now
[53:02] I I I just really um really really
[53:05] impressed with the report again um leis
[53:08] and and the uh percentage of those that
[53:11] were survey I think there was really
[53:13] good Community input by the sounds of it
[53:15] did I see 500 someplace where there
[53:17] about 500 people responded to the survey
[53:19] yes that's correct yeah just under 500
[53:21] responses which is amazing great there
[53:25] again job w
[53:27] thank
[53:29] you anyone else councilor
[53:34] divinsky thank you acting mayor and
[53:37] through
[53:38] you a great report thank you very much
[53:41] for that lots of
[53:43] information under project
[53:46] scheduling it could be just me but it
[53:51] says the draft plan is based on the
[53:54] current construction schedule
[53:57] do that mean the construction schedule
[53:59] changed from the original one and if so
[54:03] are we
[54:05] behind the reference to the current uh
[54:08] construction schedule refers to the
[54:11] schedule update that Council received in
[54:14] September with the fundraising update
[54:15] with the fall 2025
[54:19] occupancy through you
[54:23] so what we're saying here is that uh uh
[54:26] the occupancy of the AWC and the second
[54:29] floor municipal office expected in Fall
[54:33] 2025 that's correct
[54:35] okay that wasn't in the original plan it
[54:38] was going to be sooner than that was it
[54:41] not when the AWC activation and
[54:44] transition plans were presented last
[54:46] October the occupancy was anticipated
[54:50] for July
[54:52] 2025 okay and
[54:54] finally um a soft opening of the
[54:58] AWC is expected in November and
[55:01] obviously you're talking about next
[55:04] November not this month that's correct
[55:06] yes November
[55:08] 2025 okay I saw our community services
[55:12] director get up uh kisten nothing
[55:15] everything's answered
[55:17] correctly okay I have uh one more
[55:21] question this uh has to do with the
[55:24] performance and levels of
[55:29] service for those that have memberships
[55:32] at Centennial pool
[55:34] currently I assume those memberships
[55:37] will transfer to the new facility
[55:41] automatically and they won't be
[55:43] surprised with a a price increase until
[55:47] the next go around how's that going to
[55:50] work sure yes we currently have um a
[55:53] one-year uh membership option at the
[55:55] Centennial as well as a six-month
[55:57] membership option and the ab
[55:59] availability to purchase 10 or 20 visit
[56:02] Punch Cards we have pause purchasing
[56:05] one-year memberships at the existing
[56:08] facility in anticipation of uh new
[56:12] quatic memberships for the AWC however
[56:14] the six-month memberships as well as
[56:16] Punch Cards can still be purchased okay
[56:18] and should they
[56:20] overla they will be honored at the new
[56:23] facility until they expire
[56:26] correct if there was a period of time
[56:28] that they would be overlapping with
[56:29] operations of
[56:31] AWC okay thank you thank you Deputy
[56:33] Mayor councelor
[56:37] Grace thank you uh Madame Deputy Mayor
[56:40] and thank you Lisa this is a fantastic
[56:42] report um long but very interesting and
[56:47] um uh pretty inspiring actually and
[56:51] exciting uh to see what what awaits us
[56:55] um I just wanted to I I don't really
[56:58] think I have questions but I just wanted
[57:00] to make a note of some things that I was
[57:02] very pleased to see um the vice Deputy
[57:06] Mayor talked about the um emphasis from
[57:09] the survey about
[57:12] affordability and uh how we had an 85%
[57:16] response rate from a very healthy
[57:19] surveyed number um being in favor of
[57:22] that and I that says a lot about our
[57:25] community and our
[57:27] generosity uh so that's that's great um
[57:30] the emphasis upon accessibility
[57:33] barrier-free
[57:34] access um the emphasis upon um making
[57:40] this a family Hub um youth programs with
[57:44] teen kns and youth soccer and basketball
[57:47] that's been something that we've heard I
[57:49] think through our recreational Master
[57:51] plans through the years that that's
[57:53] something we're missing so that's really
[57:55] wonderful see that as well as all of
[57:58] these other um support activities social
[58:01] activities um book clubs card games arts
[58:05] and crafts the Community Kitchen uh
[58:07] thing is a wonderful idea I know that
[58:10] when um back when we had our um
[58:15] affordable housing um task force that we
[58:19] were working on and uh within the
[58:22] homelessness
[58:23] subcommittee um that came up at as
[58:26] something that could be used as a
[58:29] support um for uh you know not just sort
[58:33] of recreational cooking but something
[58:36] that could be a real support for the
[58:38] community um so that's great to see as
[58:41] well as that potential partnership with
[58:44] the nii for STEM related
[58:46] activities
[58:48] um that is great and I agree with the
[58:50] vice Deputy Mayor that if you if we can
[58:53] somehow reach out on that cardiac rehab
[58:56] program that would be a wonderful
[58:58] addition because that's something I've
[58:59] heard from residents as well uh thank
[59:01] you again great report and um I really
[59:06] hope that a lot of our residents will
[59:09] take a look at it thank you thank
[59:13] you important to to convey though that
[59:17] some of the things that have been said
[59:19] are ideas they're not they're not for
[59:21] shures and certainly uh facilities um to
[59:25] to enable some ideas are not necessarily
[59:28] in the building um at this time I did
[59:31] want to um I had a couple questions but
[59:33] since the vice Deputy Mayor and
[59:35] councelor Grace both mentioned the
[59:36] Cardiac Care uh program there is um in
[59:40] the draft on page 18 there is a comment
[59:43] about the user group engagement campaign
[59:46] and it is specific to Health Care
[59:49] Providers and other thirdparty
[59:50] organizations so um you know I hope that
[59:53] you you have some success When You Reach
[59:55] Out because um care close to home is a
[59:58] very important idea and if we have a
[1:00:00] nice facility um let's let's get people
[1:00:02] in there for all kinds of different
[1:00:04] reasons I had a couple of questions
[1:00:06] though um I know that there's a a
[1:00:09] position posting right now which is one
[1:00:10] of the positions associated with um the
[1:00:14] aquatics and Wellness
[1:00:15] Center it talks about um land landbased
[1:00:19] or land programming I can't remember the
[1:00:22] exact expression are we going to think
[1:00:24] about the the community comp has as a
[1:00:26] single unit or um will there still be a
[1:00:30] distinction with the ice side and then
[1:00:33] the land side the land-based programming
[1:00:36] side and the pool is it three separate
[1:00:38] entities or will this this position
[1:00:40] that's being um recruited for right now
[1:00:43] when it talks about improving um
[1:00:45] programming will they have some
[1:00:47] engagement with improving potential um
[1:00:50] Community programming associated with
[1:00:52] the ice as
[1:00:54] well I think think the position itself
[1:00:58] will essentially fill the role that the
[1:01:01] Aquatic supervisor currently fills
[1:01:03] within so on the on the Aquatic Wet Side
[1:01:06] we have the Aquatic supervisor um and
[1:01:09] they take care of all of the programming
[1:01:11] within that space so the Dryland side
[1:01:14] the landbase side of the facility also
[1:01:17] needs um support to provide those
[1:01:20] operations I think there is opportunity
[1:01:23] um to we want to create connections
[1:01:26] within our facilities and make sure
[1:01:27] we're uh maximizing how we're using
[1:01:30] those spaces and if there's
[1:01:31] opportunities for cross programming uh
[1:01:34] for summer camps that use both the arena
[1:01:37] and the Aquatic and Wellness Center I
[1:01:39] think those are where we're really going
[1:01:40] to look to see um opportunities to um
[1:01:44] work together across our different
[1:01:45] facilities that we offer but I don't see
[1:01:48] the Aquatic and Wellness Center being
[1:01:50] exclusive and clex being exclusive they
[1:01:53] will operate in
[1:01:54] Partnership I think it will work really
[1:01:56] well to consider a cluster of activities
[1:01:59] um since you mentioned day camps or
[1:02:01] summer camps I there was a comment in
[1:02:03] there about the intention to improve
[1:02:06] enrollment or improve opportunity for 40
[1:02:08] campers um how many my understanding
[1:02:12] about our our camp program in the summer
[1:02:14] was that it was provided by an outside
[1:02:16] provider um but um how many how many
[1:02:19] kids if you add 40 to a number that
[1:02:22] exists how many children are we talking
[1:02:24] about that potentially could be involved
[1:02:25] with summer camps yeah uh so we do we
[1:02:28] have offer camp in a couple of different
[1:02:30] ways our traditional non-aquatic day
[1:02:33] camps have been offered um half day
[1:02:35] camps by a a thirdparty provider but we
[1:02:38] also provide our own direct camp
[1:02:40] programs through the Aquatic um program
[1:02:44] and this year we actually increased our
[1:02:46] camp spots by about 20 so we had about
[1:02:48] 64 campers per week in a variety of camp
[1:02:51] programs especially Camp plus two um
[1:02:54] more traditional day camps but they
[1:02:56] would go into the pool daily so it if we
[1:02:59] increase our traditional day camp by 40
[1:03:02] campers um a week we'll be at around a
[1:03:04] hundred spaces for
[1:03:06] campers that's good I have um two more
[1:03:10] um certainly I appreciate what the vice
[1:03:12] Deputy Mayor said about um not giving
[1:03:14] away too much but I I would just like to
[1:03:16] encourage as the schedule starts to to
[1:03:19] take some form um one of the challenges
[1:03:21] that I see with with ice here is there
[1:03:24] there's extremely limited times for
[1:03:26] public access to skating um I don't know
[1:03:30] exactly what's going on this year but
[1:03:31] last year there was basically one hour
[1:03:34] time in Southampton and one hour time in
[1:03:37] Port algen at the Plex that the public
[1:03:40] could get in to just go public skating
[1:03:41] so I hope that um and and they were
[1:03:44] sponsored so they weren't quote unquote
[1:03:45] free they were with paid for by a
[1:03:47] sponsor I hope that as we think about
[1:03:49] the aquatics facility that we work in um
[1:03:53] a nice number of public swim opport OPP
[1:03:55] unities um there's sponsorship
[1:03:58] opportunities there too but certainly um
[1:04:00] the more public access to the building
[1:04:03] um outside of organized membership
[1:04:06] driven um things like Minor Sports and
[1:04:09] and perhaps the breaker swim program
[1:04:11] that sort of thing or lessons I think
[1:04:12] that that would be a good good goal to
[1:04:14] work towards my other my last question
[1:04:17] is um your report is great um it
[1:04:20] includes quite a few ideas um has to
[1:04:23] follow up in terms of surveying and you
[1:04:26] know asking questions to make sure that
[1:04:28] there's satisfaction the one thing that
[1:04:30] um I don't know how you do it but the
[1:04:31] one thing that I would encourage is as
[1:04:33] you think about that it's not just about
[1:04:36] um the users of of the facility
[1:04:38] taxpayers and sogging Shores are on the
[1:04:40] hook for this facility for quite a few
[1:04:42] years via their contributions to the
[1:04:44] Legacy fund so um some sort of
[1:04:47] opportunity um along the way to assess
[1:04:50] Community satisfaction with with the
[1:04:52] build um with the results of of um the
[1:04:56] ideas that are coming out I think that
[1:04:58] that will go a long way to um encourage
[1:05:00] civic pride um because it's it's the
[1:05:03] biggest investment in Recreation stuff
[1:05:06] here ever and um taxpayers will not
[1:05:09] necessarily be participants but
[1:05:11] certainly they'll be contributing so if
[1:05:13] there's a way to kind of get at their
[1:05:15] satisfaction I think that that would be
[1:05:17] a good thing too are there any other
[1:05:19] comments by stuty
[1:05:22] mayor thank you councelor stack sorry
[1:05:24] it's okay I just had a quick question
[1:05:27] about the risk analysis so I noticed in
[1:05:30] in the report we're hinging a lot of our
[1:05:33] financial stability for the for the
[1:05:36] programming on membership then I also
[1:05:38] noted that you sort of raise low uptake
[1:05:41] on membership as a low like your level
[1:05:44] of concern is low I assume that's
[1:05:47] because you think the risk of the
[1:05:49] membership is a low membership uptake is
[1:05:52] that's correct okay and then just to
[1:05:55] kind of close that out so are we putting
[1:05:58] so we are we putting preemptive measures
[1:06:00] in place early because I know you want
[1:06:02] to start a recruitment Drive in I think
[1:06:05] August next year this year July July
[1:06:08] August will
[1:06:09] be um a membership drive for 2025 so
[1:06:12] July and August 2025 okay um I think my
[1:06:15] only comment and like I defer to you but
[1:06:18] I'm just worried about if we're saying
[1:06:20] that 70% of our revenue is coming from
[1:06:23] membership sales and that so read that
[1:06:25] to say if we don't meet our Target
[1:06:27] there's a significant like it's very
[1:06:28] consequential right if there's at least
[1:06:30] opportunity to consider whether an
[1:06:32] earlier start to that like and I know
[1:06:34] there are resourcing concerns but if
[1:06:35] it's possible to start that drive a bit
[1:06:37] earlier that would certainly give me a
[1:06:39] bit more Comfort given like I said about
[1:06:41] 70 I think 70% is hinging there um and
[1:06:45] then I just wanted to note a couple of
[1:06:46] things I found interesting um so I
[1:06:48] thought it was interesting that
[1:06:49] basically the majority of respondents
[1:06:52] want the facility open 9:00 a.m. to 10:
[1:06:55] p.m.
[1:06:56] so I I think it's about 48 to 50%
[1:06:58] between those two time those three
[1:07:00] chunks of time that you listed there um
[1:07:02] so I'm hopeful we'll be able to meet
[1:07:04] those needs because I think um I think
[1:07:06] that's pretty important I know the gym I
[1:07:08] go to is busy all the time so I'd expect
[1:07:10] it would be similar there and then I
[1:07:12] just had a very um silly question that I
[1:07:15] couldn't I don't know if I was reading
[1:07:16] too late last night what does dry land
[1:07:19] activities mean so I will take the
[1:07:22] recreation hat basically Dryland is
[1:07:25] landbased or programs that happen
[1:07:27] outside of the pool so anything not in
[1:07:29] the
[1:07:32] pool stuty mayor M yeah thank you Deputy
[1:07:35] Mayor and two two two final comments and
[1:07:38] questions one might be for the director
[1:07:40] of community services and it's to do
[1:07:42] with the potential for relocating of the
[1:07:44] Hall of Fame and um bill streer was uh
[1:07:48] here in this Council well I think in the
[1:07:50] other building year year or so ago
[1:07:52] longer and talked about he'd be willing
[1:07:54] to sit with Rotary Club and other
[1:07:56] organizations to to revamp take another
[1:07:59] look at the hall of fame and there
[1:08:01] there's probably going to be lots of
[1:08:02] wall space there at the at the new
[1:08:04] aquatic Wellness Center so any progress
[1:08:07] being made on
[1:08:12] that uh thank you for the question and
[1:08:14] through you um Vice or Deputy Mayor um
[1:08:18] we do have that uh Council will see that
[1:08:20] presented through the business plan as a
[1:08:22] future highlight that's coming up off
[1:08:25] the top of my head right now I can't
[1:08:26] remember if it's 25 or 26 uh that we're
[1:08:29] going to look at uh the Hall of Fame
[1:08:31] perfect thanks for that and uh um one of
[1:08:34] the nice things I think with any
[1:08:37] facility particularly a brand new
[1:08:38] facility like this I was in one on the
[1:08:40] weekend down in uh um down Fergus area
[1:08:43] Mount Forest actually and a nice sitting
[1:08:45] area for people sit down and congregate
[1:08:48] meat have a coffee muffin canteen was
[1:08:50] open and uh I see with the Aquatic
[1:08:53] Wellness Center there's no provision for
[1:08:55] a can
[1:08:56] but they're they're you're talking about
[1:08:58] perhaps the the Plex whoever operates
[1:09:00] the Plex canteen um you know it could
[1:09:03] spill over into into service in the pool
[1:09:05] as well can you can you shed a little
[1:09:07] more light on that why we decide not to
[1:09:10] do a a canteen at the wellness center I
[1:09:14] think in recognizing that the existing
[1:09:17] canteen is located in the Plex and it is
[1:09:19] connected to the Aquatic and Wellness
[1:09:21] Center through that Corridor link um so
[1:09:24] there were there's already a service um
[1:09:26] available to be provided there I think
[1:09:29] there's an opportunity to look at the
[1:09:30] agreement that we have in that space and
[1:09:32] maybe reimagine what it looks like in
[1:09:35] order to uh provide some additional
[1:09:37] Services there are sitting areas uh
[1:09:39] within the design as well so there's a a
[1:09:42] really nice sitting area outside of the
[1:09:44] um Auditorium space just outside of the
[1:09:47] glass where Community can gather and
[1:09:48] then on the second level as well there's
[1:09:50] going to be some seating areas that's
[1:09:52] great it's good to see the break out
[1:09:54] seting areas like that and so there are
[1:09:56] will or are will be active discussions
[1:09:59] around offering canteen services with
[1:10:01] the current operator of the canteen to
[1:10:04] expand that service and include the pool
[1:10:07] so there there will be some discussions
[1:10:09] we will yeah we will take a look at the
[1:10:10] agreement and when it expires and how
[1:10:12] that could that how it could
[1:10:17] work councelor halin thank you Deputy
[1:10:20] Mayor and through you uh just coming
[1:10:23] back to your comments about ice time and
[1:10:27] you know if we're looking at the Aquatic
[1:10:28] and Wellness Center and the ice Al
[1:10:30] together and everything like that um if
[1:10:32] there were more opportunities for public
[1:10:34] skating I know it is very competitive to
[1:10:37] get a sponsorship for public skating I
[1:10:40] mean people businesses are tripping over
[1:10:43] themselves and snabb this up so I think
[1:10:46] that there's more businesses and more
[1:10:48] individuals out there that would sponsor
[1:10:51] more free skating and free swimming as
[1:10:53] well and that's something we could look
[1:10:55] at expanding that with your new Aquatic
[1:10:56] and wellness thank you
[1:11:00] thanks and we appreciate that you
[1:11:03] councelor help and sponsor skating at
[1:11:05] times too are there any other comments
[1:11:08] um I'm sure that uh the manager would
[1:11:10] welcome um any any feedback that that
[1:11:13] could come in uh prior to us receiving
[1:11:15] another report the recommendation before
[1:11:17] us right now is that Council receive the
[1:11:19] draft Aquatic and Wellness Center
[1:11:21] operations and management plan report
[1:11:23] for information all those in
[1:11:27] favor thank
[1:11:29] you our next uh agenda item is relating
[1:11:34] to um the introduction to proposed
[1:11:37] levels of service for asset management
[1:11:39] and I will ask the asset management
[1:11:42] supervisor Jessica Rogers to come up to
[1:11:45] the mic and she's going to introduce the
[1:11:47] consultant thank you
[1:11:51] Jessica uh thank you and through you
[1:11:53] deputy mayor as outlined in our 2024
[1:11:57] business plan the town is in the
[1:11:58] beginning phases of a project to once
[1:12:01] again update our amp to meet the 2025
[1:12:04] requirements under the o
[1:12:24] 588-1714 public policy advice in the
[1:12:26] areas of Municipal Finance development
[1:12:29] planning demographic and economic
[1:12:31] forecasting and real estate valuations
[1:12:34] hemon's Municipal practice is extensive
[1:12:36] and is anchored by professionals who
[1:12:39] have considerable experience in both the
[1:12:41] municipal environment and private sector
[1:12:44] the staff includes um Finance
[1:12:46] professionals planners demographers real
[1:12:48] estate Specialists and
[1:12:50] economics the objectives of this project
[1:12:52] include identifying measurable levels of
[1:12:54] service developing ing tools for
[1:12:56] tracking these measures receiving
[1:12:58] resident input through both an online
[1:13:00] survey and a pic and crafting both asset
[1:13:03] management and financial strategies I
[1:13:06] will now hand it over to Christopher
[1:13:07] belet and Andrew Marabella from hson
[1:13:10] Consulting to provide more information
[1:13:12] with regards to the proposed levels of
[1:13:14] service as part of our long-term
[1:13:16] business planning and how it relates to
[1:13:18] the regulation
[1:13:26] thank you uh members of council um just
[1:13:28] to kind of start things off on some of
[1:13:30] the topics for discussion uh we want to
[1:13:32] go through and kind of Define asset
[1:13:34] management and a quick overview uh for
[1:13:36] municipalities um we want a a kind of
[1:13:39] overview of the regulatory requirements
[1:13:41] particularly or
[1:13:43] 58817 we're going to look at the town's
[1:13:45] 2024 Asset Management plan and the work
[1:13:47] the Town has done already um in terms of
[1:13:49] that level of service work as well as
[1:13:51] the approach to the development of those
[1:13:53] proposed levels of service some of those
[1:13:55] next
[1:13:57] steps so to kind of Define um asset
[1:14:00] management for municipalities and and
[1:14:03] sort of a simple perspective um asset
[1:14:05] management is the process of maintaining
[1:14:07] Assets in the most cost-effective way um
[1:14:09] we want to make sure that we're
[1:14:11] maximizing benefits to Residents uh
[1:14:13] through the use of those assets we will
[1:14:15] make make sure that we're managing risks
[1:14:17] over the long term and as well ensuring
[1:14:19] that the services are sustainable um and
[1:14:22] affordable as well ensuring that through
[1:14:24] uh through this uh sort of plan and as
[1:14:26] well through through a longer term
[1:14:28] planning
[1:14:30] period um an overview uh municipalities
[1:14:33] are responsible for ensuring
[1:14:34] infrastructures planned built and
[1:14:36] maintained in a sustainable way that
[1:14:38] said the town has applied sound asset
[1:14:41] management principles and processes to
[1:14:43] date uh from hemon's opinion the town is
[1:14:45] well ahead of many other municipalities
[1:14:48] of similar size uh you've developed a
[1:14:50] tenure Capital plan you have an
[1:14:52] infrastructure Levy that you've
[1:14:53] implemented so with that said you know
[1:14:55] the asset management plan becomes a
[1:14:57] useful tool for identifying um those
[1:15:00] long-term infrastructure requirements
[1:15:03] and planning how to manage those uh
[1:15:05] requirements uh today or starting
[1:15:08] today some objectives um the plan uh we
[1:15:11] want to provide staff and Council
[1:15:13] information to guide sustainable
[1:15:15] infrastructure investment decisions so
[1:15:16] we are building upon um the the uh the
[1:15:19] work from 2024 plan uh moving forward we
[1:15:23] want to make sure we're meeting those
[1:15:24] requirements of Ontario regulation 58817
[1:15:27] on the proposed level of service one
[1:15:29] other important component here um is
[1:15:32] having a readily available document to
[1:15:34] support those um uh future Federal grant
[1:15:36] applications and ccbf funding agreements
[1:15:39] um as well that ask for that plan to be
[1:15:41] submitted as part of those applications
[1:15:43] and the amp has to consider all assets
[1:15:45] owned by the town as well uh making sure
[1:15:47] that we've included the core and noncore
[1:15:49] assets and building upon that exercise
[1:15:51] which the town has already done through
[1:15:52] that 24 plan
[1:15:56] um the line of side of asset management
[1:15:57] planning is sort of the framework the
[1:15:59] town um is utilizing in order to develop
[1:16:02] uh the proposed level of service and as
[1:16:03] well the the existing uh sort of asset
[1:16:06] management plan it begins with uh the
[1:16:08] vision of council and as well as Council
[1:16:10] priorities those visions and those
[1:16:13] priorities help inform the policy the
[1:16:15] asset management policy that was
[1:16:17] developed a few years back and as well
[1:16:19] as the asset management plan itself and
[1:16:21] ultimately that plan the intention is
[1:16:23] that it helps and form those Capital
[1:16:26] programs the operations and maintenance
[1:16:28] budget and as well as any business plans
[1:16:29] going forward and by no means is the
[1:16:31] asset management plan intended to
[1:16:33] replace those processes but it's it's
[1:16:35] another tool in sort of the town's
[1:16:36] Arsenal to help plan for those long-term
[1:16:39] um asset obligations those last few
[1:16:42] pieces on those on those budget pieces
[1:16:44] will help inform the targets and the
[1:16:46] level of service that's being uh
[1:16:48] proposed as part of the exercise and as
[1:16:51] well as in that reporting uh help in
[1:16:53] that reporting of the levels of service
[1:16:56] going
[1:16:57] forward the timeline of the regulation
[1:17:01] uh important to mention here that the
[1:17:02] town is up to dat um in terms of Meeting
[1:17:06] those regulatory requirements of the
[1:17:08] asset management plan back in 19 was a
[1:17:10] develop of the Strategic Asset
[1:17:11] Management policy which the town has in
[1:17:13] place and then in July 20 July 1st of 22
[1:17:17] and then again in 24 was developing
[1:17:19] those current levels of service for the
[1:17:21] core assets and the non-core assets and
[1:17:23] the core assets like I mentioned kind of
[1:17:25] covering the roads water Wastewater
[1:17:27] storm water Bridges and culs and so on
[1:17:29] and those non-core assets being your
[1:17:30] other asset categories uh things like
[1:17:32] Vehicles equipment uh facilities and so
[1:17:35] on so a good basis uh that the town has
[1:17:38] uh from Meeting those requirements going
[1:17:40] forward we want to meet the July 1st
[1:17:42] 2025 requirements that'll be the uh
[1:17:45] development of the proposed levels of
[1:17:47] service that that we are talking about
[1:17:49] today and that'll be for July 1st 2025
[1:17:52] and that process has already begun and
[1:17:54] is isn't sort of moving forward um um
[1:17:57] right
[1:17:58] now some of the required elements of the
[1:18:01] plan uh one important uh kind of
[1:18:03] starting point is the state of local
[1:18:05] infrastructure uh this this really
[1:18:07] describes the the uh asset portfolio of
[1:18:10] the town where are the assets what are
[1:18:12] they worth what condition are they in um
[1:18:15] what is the remaining service life and
[1:18:17] so on and these are important inputs to
[1:18:19] developing that level of service um the
[1:18:22] any discussions on risks Associated to
[1:18:24] the plan as well as determining the life
[1:18:26] cycle activities and costs of
[1:18:28] undertaking um all you know the work
[1:18:30] that's proposed uh you know sort of
[1:18:32] through the plan over the long term um
[1:18:34] so you know that like I mentioned the
[1:18:35] town has already developed that through
[1:18:37] the 2024 Asset Management plan and those
[1:18:39] will will be that will be the framework
[1:18:42] and the starting point to help inform
[1:18:44] the exercise on the proposed level of
[1:18:47] service um municipalities are required
[1:18:49] to report on those levels of service for
[1:18:51] all those assets um you know like I
[1:18:53] mentioned the town has already undergone
[1:18:55] and undertaken that first uh sort of
[1:18:57] Step of reporting on those current
[1:18:59] levels of service and what that means is
[1:19:02] um you know there is quite a bit of
[1:19:03] information in the existing plan that we
[1:19:05] can draw upon this represents this table
[1:19:08] represents a snapshot of the current
[1:19:10] level of service that the town already
[1:19:12] put together uh these are not all the
[1:19:14] levels of service this is just a
[1:19:15] snapshot for illustration purposes but
[1:19:17] what we wanted to point out is that the
[1:19:19] basis for the levels of service will be
[1:19:21] based on this uh you know the proposed
[1:19:23] level of service will look to set
[1:19:25] targets over the next 10e period or a
[1:19:27] minimum 10year period for these types of
[1:19:30] measures and these measures are going to
[1:19:31] be informed over the next uh few months
[1:19:35] uh through a variety or or different uh
[1:19:37] sort of uh uh sets of part of the
[1:19:40] process particularly in the consultation
[1:19:42] and as well as analysis of the
[1:19:45] budget this slide represents sort of
[1:19:47] that process um we start off with a
[1:19:49] review of the current level of service
[1:19:51] um that's uh happening uh in the next
[1:19:53] few days where sitting down with staff
[1:19:55] in order to undertake uh some formal
[1:19:57] workshops with staff to understand the
[1:19:59] current level of service understanding
[1:20:01] the data understanding the feasibility
[1:20:03] of tracking those levels of service
[1:20:05] along with them we'll look to develop
[1:20:07] those proposed level of service targets
[1:20:09] uh using uh sort of Staff knowledge the
[1:20:12] existing documentation the asset
[1:20:14] management plan the exit the the capital
[1:20:16] budget the operating budgets and so on
[1:20:18] but that'll lead into consultation with
[1:20:21] uh or continued consultation with the
[1:20:23] public and Council uh there there is a
[1:20:25] consultation uh happening uh in the next
[1:20:28] uh couple weeks with the public and
[1:20:29] trying to gauge some of the sense uh
[1:20:32] from the public on the level of service
[1:20:34] provided uh of those assets and as well
[1:20:36] as uh the process uh giving enough time
[1:20:39] to provide Council uh the information
[1:20:42] that needed in order to sort of be
[1:20:44] informed on what those levels of service
[1:20:45] are and getting the the feedback from
[1:20:47] Council in order to move forward uh with
[1:20:50] the plan and finally we want to make
[1:20:51] sure we identify the cost to meet those
[1:20:53] proposed levels of service and if there
[1:20:55] are any risks Associated um to uh to the
[1:20:58] plan and those costs will be largely
[1:21:00] informed through the good work that the
[1:21:02] town is already done including the
[1:21:03] 10year capital plan as a as a basis in
[1:21:06] order to understand what those targets
[1:21:07] could be based on that
[1:21:10] plan um last sort of a few ideas here um
[1:21:14] in understanding the uh life cycle
[1:21:16] activities that support the level of
[1:21:18] service so these are the activities that
[1:21:20] we do on our assets or or as part of the
[1:21:22] asset management best practices and in
[1:21:24] order to maintain um the levels of
[1:21:26] service the first one if you he being
[1:21:28] non-infrastructure Solutions really
[1:21:30] related to actions that the town may
[1:21:32] take not necessarily not necessarily
[1:21:34] related to direct work on assets but it
[1:21:36] might be related to management of the
[1:21:38] assets things like development of an
[1:21:40] asset management plan or acquiring a new
[1:21:42] piece of software to manage the
[1:21:43] inventory the expansion activities more
[1:21:46] traditionally related for municipalities
[1:21:48] on the growth related infrastructure so
[1:21:51] kind of those first round costs um of
[1:21:53] growth related infr structure would
[1:21:55] would be what we would call in the asset
[1:21:56] management world is expansion activities
[1:21:59] the maintenance activities more so
[1:22:01] related to works on an ongoing basis to
[1:22:04] maintain those assets typically captured
[1:22:06] or mostly captured in the town's
[1:22:08] operating budget and that includes
[1:22:10] things like reactive maintenance you
[1:22:12] know as an asset uh either breaks down
[1:22:14] or requires immediate repair that's
[1:22:16] addressed through the operating
[1:22:19] budget on the uh uh sort of the last
[1:22:22] three categories here we have renewal
[1:22:24] Rehabilitation and replacement more so
[1:22:27] related uh to the capital budget those
[1:22:29] are your traditional type capital
[1:22:30] projects renewal Rehabilitation more so
[1:22:33] repair type uh um uh work things like
[1:22:36] Road repavement or perhaps repairing
[1:22:38] components um of a facility and the town
[1:22:41] undertakes preventative maintenance
[1:22:43] through the capital budget uh which
[1:22:45] would include a combination of you know
[1:22:46] renewal Rehabilitation or replacement as
[1:22:49] determined as as sort of needed those
[1:22:51] replacement activities are more so um uh
[1:22:54] related to those likeforlike uh type
[1:22:56] Replacements replacing your vehicles for
[1:22:59] example or replacing a piece of
[1:23:00] equipment and finally the disposal
[1:23:02] activities any activity related uh to
[1:23:05] disposing of an asset that may
[1:23:07] necessarily have a cost and you know one
[1:23:09] one important component here is that the
[1:23:11] town is already aiming to move to a
[1:23:13] larger share of preventative work um
[1:23:15] over the next few years um in in in sort
[1:23:18] of in a way in order to make sure that
[1:23:21] uh that assets are continued to be
[1:23:22] maintained sustainably and by no means
[1:23:25] is um the the actions that are
[1:23:27] represented here um represent actions
[1:23:29] that the town already takes as part of
[1:23:30] the capital budget these are just
[1:23:32] categories that facilitate um the
[1:23:35] exercise and developing that proposed
[1:23:36] level of service and by no means is this
[1:23:39] uh intended to rep replace the budget
[1:23:41] process but it's a tool to help inform
[1:23:43] that process um in the future as
[1:23:46] well so in terms of next steps uh hamson
[1:23:49] and stown staff have already initiated
[1:23:51] the background work needed to develop
[1:23:52] the proposed level of service so like I
[1:23:54] mentioned in the next couple of weeks uh
[1:23:56] there are workshops with staff in order
[1:23:57] to be able to get more so the technical
[1:24:00] information in order uh to develop those
[1:24:02] measures uh there is a consultation
[1:24:04] session with the public scheduled for
[1:24:06] November 20th so that's uh sort of
[1:24:08] coming up but with another session in
[1:24:10] early 2025 to sort of gauge um The
[1:24:13] public's uh opinion on some of those uh
[1:24:15] sort of levels of service for some of
[1:24:17] those assets a final report is expected
[1:24:19] uh to cancel by the end of q1 2025 uh
[1:24:23] and that is at the same time well in
[1:24:24] advance of that regulatory requirement
[1:24:27] of July 1st 2025 but at the same time
[1:24:30] giving Council enough time and us coming
[1:24:32] back to Council in order to present that
[1:24:34] information and providing um enough time
[1:24:36] for Council to have um a comment and
[1:24:39] opinion on that for us to reflect in the
[1:24:41] in the overall uh sort of
[1:24:44] product uh with that said uh that
[1:24:46] concludes uh the formal presentation and
[1:24:48] I'd be happy to answer any questions you
[1:24:49] may
[1:24:51] have thank you for that the the public
[1:24:55] um consultation process that you
[1:24:57] mentioned on November the 20th that's
[1:24:59] Wednesday November the 20th it's at 5:00
[1:25:01] pm at the Bruce County Museum is that
[1:25:03] correct that is correct thank you um we
[1:25:05] have a recommendation um before us that
[1:25:08] Council receive the introduction to
[1:25:10] propose levels of service for Asset
[1:25:12] Management um just to receive it for
[1:25:14] information I'll open the floor for
[1:25:16] questions or comments
[1:25:22] now I have a couple
[1:25:27] I wanted to ask um there was a a comment
[1:25:30] on one of the slides and it's probably a
[1:25:32] question for uh um perhaps the U manager
[1:25:36] of engineering or or the um director of
[1:25:39] development um there's a comment in
[1:25:41] there that the bridge average condition
[1:25:44] had an index number of 57 out of a 100
[1:25:48] um that seems that it's just above
[1:25:51] halfway um it was the one that kind of
[1:25:54] was the most dramatic so I just would
[1:25:56] appreciate a comment as to what that
[1:25:58] means and and what it it uh represents
[1:26:01] in terms of the future planning in in
[1:26:03] terms of taking care of B
[1:26:05] Bridges um through you Deputy Mayor and
[1:26:07] I can answer a bit and provide other
[1:26:11] answers if Rahul wants to step in as
[1:26:13] well so um that number came from our
[1:26:16] 2022 Asset Management plan so it was
[1:26:19] based on the um Bridge condition um
[1:26:22] study that was done in that year um and
[1:26:25] at that time we did have a couple
[1:26:27] bridges that were closed so you have to
[1:26:29] understand that those closed bridges
[1:26:30] would have a condition index of zero
[1:26:32] which would bring down our overall
[1:26:34] average um we completed a Bridge
[1:26:38] condition assessment um this year we
[1:26:41] actually just received the report um so
[1:26:43] in our next iteration of the asset
[1:26:45] management plan we will be updating
[1:26:47] these numbers and is likely we'll see an
[1:26:50] improvement thank you the other one that
[1:26:52] caught my eye was that um the unpaved
[1:26:55] roads in our community were noted as
[1:26:57] poor um same situation you've done
[1:27:01] another um condition report and we can
[1:27:04] expect to hear more yes um and through
[1:27:06] you Deputy Mayor we completed a um
[1:27:09] pavement condition Index this year as
[1:27:11] well which will give us a better um
[1:27:13] understanding of our pave roads um with
[1:27:16] unpaved roads because they are gravel it
[1:27:18] is relatively hard to actually come up
[1:27:21] with a decent um condition reporting
[1:27:23] system for those but I would expect that
[1:27:26] we would see an improvement based on our
[1:27:27] maintenance
[1:27:29] strategies thank you and my apolog my
[1:27:32] apology for suggesting that someone else
[1:27:34] needed to answer questions you're you're
[1:27:36] always very good yeah any anything else
[1:27:39] councelor
[1:27:40] mayette thank you
[1:27:42] Madame
[1:27:44] chair we still have a couple bridges
[1:27:46] that are closed and so uh I know we've
[1:27:48] done some work on concession six bridge
[1:27:51] and we've done some work on the county
[1:27:53] road 17 Bridge
[1:27:55] um but when we have those bridges closed
[1:27:58] I'm hoping they stay in the plan for
[1:28:00] future Rehabilitation so I don't really
[1:28:03] see that number coming up with regards
[1:28:04] to the uh gravel roads um we we did do a
[1:28:10] uh a trial run I believe it was three
[1:28:12] years ago on on Side Road uh 1819 where
[1:28:16] it goes from the Town Line to one of our
[1:28:19] new Bridges the newest bridge in SOI
[1:28:21] Shores which is
[1:28:22] the the name of it eludes me right at
[1:28:25] the moment
[1:28:26] um but we we uh we did a tar and chip
[1:28:30] for half of the concession and left
[1:28:32] gravel on the other half and I would
[1:28:34] encourage all counselors if you're ever
[1:28:36] taking a drive down to Paisley and Point
[1:28:39] South to come around uh 1819 and drive
[1:28:43] it right down to Across the new bridge
[1:28:45] or to the Town Line and see the
[1:28:46] difference between what three years of
[1:28:49] tan chip compared to three years of
[1:28:52] gravel looks like and it's remarkable
[1:28:54] how well it stood up now that is a non
[1:28:58] maintained Road in the wintertime so it
[1:29:00] doesn't see snowplow use but I would say
[1:29:03] that the condition of half of that road
[1:29:05] is is very good and uh the other half
[1:29:09] not so
[1:29:11] good the CEO wants to comment yeah
[1:29:14] through you madam chair I just would um
[1:29:17] because we have a new director of
[1:29:18] operations I'm just going to call his
[1:29:20] attention to that piece that was part of
[1:29:22] our business plan from two or three
[1:29:23] years years ago that we probably do owe
[1:29:25] a report back to counsil on the status
[1:29:28] of that uh trial that we did on that
[1:29:30] road so thank you for the
[1:29:33] reminder any other comments councelor
[1:29:39] divinsky thank you acting mayor uh we
[1:29:42] hear in this report which is an
[1:29:45] excellent report by the way and all my
[1:29:47] questions have pretty well been answered
[1:29:51] um we hear how well we're doing because
[1:29:55] we're ahead of the game and of course
[1:29:58] that reflects on the staff and I would
[1:30:00] like to think to a certain extent on
[1:30:02] Council as well but primarily on
[1:30:06] staff um but they still say there's
[1:30:11] hempson says there's still lots to do
[1:30:14] and we have to we should get it done by
[1:30:16] a certain date because the province says
[1:30:19] we
[1:30:20] should so my question is simple yes
[1:30:25] no we aren't going to hear that we have
[1:30:27] to add another staff member because of
[1:30:30] this are
[1:30:32] we uh through you Deputy Mayor no I I
[1:30:36] don't think we're going to see um the
[1:30:38] recommendation of adding staff to the
[1:30:40] asset management GIS team um I think
[1:30:43] what we're going to hear is um whether
[1:30:46] or not we're on track to continue to
[1:30:49] meet the goals that we as a town have in
[1:30:52] terms of our assets
[1:30:55] okay you said I don't think so you've
[1:30:57] left it I mean I would love another
[1:31:00] staff
[1:31:01] member we'll get an additional comment
[1:31:03] from the ceao yeah thank you through you
[1:31:05] madam chair what you have in front of
[1:31:08] you tonight is to look at what kind of
[1:31:10] service levels we want to set as a
[1:31:12] council for our assets it really doesn't
[1:31:14] have to do with the Staffing that's
[1:31:16] managing um that process and that
[1:31:19] reporting to the province of Ontario um
[1:31:22] so I I would offer that the two are a
[1:31:23] bit dis connected uh counselor but we're
[1:31:26] really looking at what service level you
[1:31:27] want to set related to the assets that
[1:31:29] you have in front of you the table that
[1:31:32] was on the screen before I understand
[1:31:34] that CAO but you see a report like this
[1:31:37] and in your expertise and anybody else's
[1:31:40] you can say oh we're going to need help
[1:31:42] with this and I'm all I'm asking is has
[1:31:46] that been thought of another staff
[1:31:49] member to help with this I don't think
[1:31:52] we need it but
[1:31:54] through you madam chair I I'm guess I'm
[1:31:57] trying to air quote around the this in
[1:31:59] that statement counselor and the this is
[1:32:01] really our assets so we had a a list up
[1:32:04] on the screen there maybe it can be put
[1:32:06] up there again but the variety of assets
[1:32:09] that you see in front of you are managed
[1:32:11] by multiple divisions within our
[1:32:13] organization so throughout operations
[1:32:15] engineering those various groups provide
[1:32:18] the level of Maintenance that we want to
[1:32:20] see on those assets so it really it's
[1:32:23] hard to draw a direct line between
[1:32:25] Staffing and the asset but we run um
[1:32:28] Asset Management asset maintenance
[1:32:30] across all of our divisions whether or
[1:32:32] not that be a facility like the pool or
[1:32:34] a road or a bridge so um this the
[1:32:38] question directly to the asset
[1:32:39] management team it is a group made up of
[1:32:42] three members um that provide not only
[1:32:46] asset management but GIS and again we
[1:32:48] can see how far they are ahead in the
[1:32:50] province of Ontario with the work
[1:32:52] they're doing so there's no intent to
[1:32:53] ask for additional staff but again I'm
[1:32:55] just trying to put my finger quotes
[1:32:57] around what you mean by this and again
[1:32:59] we're talking about the level of service
[1:33:01] related to the assets themselves and you
[1:33:04] said what I wanted to
[1:33:06] hear thank you and I didn't mean to put
[1:33:08] you on the SP counc helping thank you
[1:33:11] Deputy Mayor and through you uh how much
[1:33:13] was this consultation fee for this
[1:33:16] report that's in front of
[1:33:20] us it it was a 20
[1:33:24] one was
[1:33:25] $20,000 yeah and it was part of the
[1:33:27] business plan last year thank you well
[1:33:31] the followup so how much will the whole
[1:33:34] consultation end up costing 35,000 thank
[1:33:41] you seeing no other comments the
[1:33:43] recommendation is that Council receive
[1:33:45] the introduction to proposed levels of
[1:33:47] service for Asset Management report for
[1:33:49] information all in
[1:33:50] favor that's carried thank you very much
[1:33:54] Jessica our next um item staff report is
[1:33:58] about the Ontario community information
[1:34:01] or sorry Ontario community
[1:34:03] infrastructure fund oif update and we
[1:34:07] will look to Daniel weter the Chief
[1:34:09] Financial Officer treasurer for that
[1:34:11] report I think Daniel's um on Zoom go
[1:34:14] ahead Daniel yes I am thank you uh
[1:34:16] acting mayor Huber uh this report
[1:34:19] follows up on a July 2024 report upd and
[1:34:22] Council on changes to the Ontario
[1:34:24] community infrastructure fund
[1:34:26] allocations for the town of sing Shores
[1:34:29] at the time Council were informed of
[1:34:31] changes to the methodology that resulted
[1:34:33] in a maximum 15% decrease to the town's
[1:34:36] 2024 allocation the town has now
[1:34:40] received its 2025 allocation which again
[1:34:43] shows a maximum 15% decrease from last
[1:34:46] year's the town has been working to
[1:34:48] understand these changes throughout the
[1:34:50] year and recently engaged Wellington
[1:34:52] Dupont to assess assisting communication
[1:34:55] with the ministry with Ministry of
[1:34:57] infrastructure staff after extensive
[1:34:59] efforts uh some responses have been
[1:35:02] received from Ministry staff but there
[1:35:03] is still uh Missing detail that would
[1:35:06] help further explain causes of the
[1:35:08] decrease uh separately uh Town staff
[1:35:11] have
[1:35:12] completed uh an analysis of the publicly
[1:35:15] listed oif allocations amongst all
[1:35:18] municipalities and this data has been
[1:35:21] crucial in identifying that the impact
[1:35:22] of the methodology
[1:35:24] methodology change has not been limited
[1:35:26] to this to the town of saging Shores uh
[1:35:30] 138 out of
[1:35:32] 426 re recipients uh saw a maximum 15%
[1:35:37] decrease from their 2023 to their 2024
[1:35:41] allocation and 89 recipients have also
[1:35:44] seen a maximum 15% decrease from their
[1:35:48] 2024 to their
[1:35:51] 2025 allocation or sorry seen seeing a
[1:35:54] maximum decrease in both of those
[1:35:56] years uh so although exact reasons for
[1:36:00] all of the exact reasons for the
[1:36:02] decrease in the town's allocation are
[1:36:04] not yet fully identified the previous
[1:36:07] allocation methodology involved uh very
[1:36:10] intricate calculations that were based
[1:36:13] on financial information returns of
[1:36:16] municipalities the estimates from that
[1:36:18] data uh can vary significantly depending
[1:36:21] on each mun municip Al's quality of data
[1:36:25] their depreciation methods their
[1:36:28] tangible Capital asset asset policies
[1:36:31] and it's possible that previous
[1:36:32] calculations for the town's
[1:36:34] infrastructure may have been relatively
[1:36:37] higher than the true infrastructure
[1:36:39] values when compared to the change that
[1:36:43] other municipalities saw in that
[1:36:45] methodology change uh So based on the
[1:36:48] most recent notice from The Province the
[1:36:50] current projection for future o payments
[1:36:54] uh is
[1:36:56] 74,000 that that's the end point that we
[1:36:59] would reach in
[1:37:02] 20207 uh and that is approximately $1
[1:37:04] million per year over the long term
[1:37:07] lower than what was included in the 2024
[1:37:10] business plan options to deal with this
[1:37:13] funding issue will be included in the
[1:37:15] 2025 business plan for council's
[1:37:22] consideration thank you very much much
[1:37:23] Daniel um do we have any Vice Deputy
[1:37:27] Mayor y thank you Deputy Mayor and just
[1:37:29] so I'm clear Daniel um so when we when
[1:37:33] we last heard the report I thought there
[1:37:35] was going to be a a decrease of of one
[1:37:39] one let me think here now it would have
[1:37:41] been
[1:37:42] 74,000 um right now it's you're looking
[1:37:46] at a decrease of 223,000 if if I got
[1:37:49] that right that it's actually $500,000
[1:37:52] lower than what what was anticipated is
[1:37:56] that do I have that
[1:37:58] right
[1:37:59] the the original so our
[1:38:03] 2023 uh projection was a was
[1:38:06] approximately 1.7 million or sorry our
[1:38:09] original 2024 projection was about 1.7
[1:38:12] million and that was based on our
[1:38:15] historical uh our actual allocation in
[1:38:19] 2024 was just over 1.4 million and our
[1:38:24] 2025 allocation is just over 1.2 million
[1:38:28] so yeah like to date we're down about
[1:38:31] 500,000 um but future years it's
[1:38:35] anticipated that
[1:38:37] uh that's that's good so I did
[1:38:39] understand it correctly based from the
[1:38:42] report in August this is $500,000 better
[1:38:45] than what we anticipated
[1:38:48] and no I'm got that right that's what I
[1:38:51] meant down that's what I meant low did I
[1:38:53] better I meant lower but in a better in
[1:38:56] a better position than what was
[1:38:58] anticipated in August
[1:39:00] correct no it's uh it's no it's a it's a
[1:39:05] decrease even from from July's report um
[1:39:09] our allocation is show the 2025 notice
[1:39:13] from The Province showed an even lower
[1:39:15] amount than uh what we understood in
[1:39:18] July okay the number we just looked
[1:39:21] looked about 5 $500,000 different
[1:39:25] different than what what we were told
[1:39:27] back a few months ago that's what I
[1:39:30] that's how I understood
[1:39:31] it um but anyways um do this is this
[1:39:35] number a new number reflected in the
[1:39:37] 2025 operating
[1:39:39] budget it is reflected in the 2025
[1:39:43] business plan uh and as stated in the
[1:39:47] report there'll be options for Council
[1:39:49] to consider um so it's included in the
[1:39:53] in the business plan um but with
[1:39:57] different ways of of
[1:39:59] achieving um that funding
[1:40:03] Gap councilor
[1:40:07] Grace thank you Madame Deputy Mayor um
[1:40:11] thank you Daniel for the report um
[1:40:14] obviously this is disappointing and uh I
[1:40:18] know we've been trying to get some
[1:40:21] specific reasons about why this
[1:40:24] is um
[1:40:26] happening um is there anything we can do
[1:40:30] to keep this from happening or are we
[1:40:34] just destined uh is this a combination
[1:40:38] of
[1:40:39] our um perhaps a factor of our median
[1:40:43] median household income
[1:40:46] and um our existing infrastructure the
[1:40:50] value of our existing infrastructure is
[1:40:53] is there any any anything we can be
[1:40:55] doing uh to keep this from
[1:41:00] happening so I don't know if I can speak
[1:41:03] to the full answer there in terms of
[1:41:06] what can be done in terms of
[1:41:07] communications with other levels of
[1:41:09] government um in terms of the I want to
[1:41:12] emphasize it is a Formula driven change
[1:41:16] it is not a decision of the province or
[1:41:18] a decision it is a Formula driven change
[1:41:22] where there using they previously were
[1:41:26] using assumptions based on historical
[1:41:29] data and now they have uh moved to a
[1:41:33] methodology that the attempt is to use
[1:41:37] current self-reported data from
[1:41:40] municipalities on how much
[1:41:41] infrastructure that they have uh through
[1:41:44] their Asset Management
[1:41:46] plans um one of the important things to
[1:41:49] note that that I've come across in this
[1:41:51] is the the formula it's self attempts to
[1:41:55] adjust for the infrastructure needs of
[1:41:57] the
[1:41:57] communities uh so rural communities that
[1:42:02] have a lot of bridges and have a long a
[1:42:05] lot of paved roads a lot of water sewer
[1:42:07] infrastructure over long stretches um
[1:42:10] are going to see relatively higher per
[1:42:13] capita payments than urban areas uh and
[1:42:19] that's not necessarily A change but as
[1:42:20] they change the methodology
[1:42:23] um the intent is that it's a truer
[1:42:26] reflection of the infrastructure needs
[1:42:28] of the community um so to answer your
[1:42:31] question it it is a Formula driven thing
[1:42:33] in terms of Engagement with other um
[1:42:37] levels of of government um perhaps um
[1:42:41] someone else may want to to comment on
[1:42:46] that I don't see anybody else stepping
[1:42:49] up to the plate but are the other
[1:42:53] members of
[1:42:55] council councelor
[1:42:57] hin I'm not interested in answering that
[1:43:00] question I have a different question
[1:43:01] just to be
[1:43:02] clear I I had a constituent ask me this
[1:43:06] and I know I've asked this before why
[1:43:08] are we using Wellington Dupont to talk
[1:43:11] to the government like you know we're
[1:43:14] they're their tier there's the
[1:43:16] government you know we're a tier of
[1:43:19] government why do we have to go through
[1:43:21] a consultant to talk talk to the
[1:43:24] government why are we doing that thank
[1:43:27] you through you madam chair Wellington
[1:43:30] Dupont was hired in order to help us
[1:43:32] with Grant applications for various
[1:43:35] infrastructure projects including the
[1:43:36] Aquatic and Wellness Center as part of
[1:43:38] that contract they've offered to elevate
[1:43:42] um certain issues that we bring to the
[1:43:44] table in addition to that work that
[1:43:45] they're doing for us so after I I think
[1:43:49] it would be fair to say Daniel after
[1:43:50] several months of our finance team
[1:43:53] trying to reach out to staff at the
[1:43:56] ministry we felt it was important to
[1:43:58] bring it to Wellington Dupont which
[1:44:00] allows us to elevate it to the
[1:44:01] ministerial level so we're talking now
[1:44:03] to the minister through them as opposed
[1:44:05] to staff to staff so we're trying we're
[1:44:07] trying to elevate it to a political
[1:44:09] issue so it's the same as you would see
[1:44:12] in the work that we do in our advocacy
[1:44:14] when we go to Roma and so that is one of
[1:44:16] the things that we've highlighted this
[1:44:18] year to take to Roma is a discussion on
[1:44:20] the ocif funding and what's happening to
[1:44:22] the town of sing shes through that new
[1:44:24] formula as Daniel
[1:44:26] described yeah uh so I'll add on to that
[1:44:29] I working with um Ministry staff prior
[1:44:32] to the engagement of Wellington Dupont
[1:44:34] was certainly um uh
[1:44:38] frustrating process I I think it was
[1:44:40] helpful to get the attention of The
[1:44:41] Minister's office and um I want to re
[1:44:45] redo on my response in terms of whether
[1:44:47] anything can be done I I'll just say
[1:44:49] that I don't necessarily believe
[1:44:51] anything can be
[1:44:53] uh done to change the formula uh we are
[1:44:56] working with uh the asset management
[1:44:58] team to ensure that we are reporting as
[1:45:00] much infrastructure through the
[1:45:02] self-reported template as possible so as
[1:45:04] um as staff uh from a finance and asset
[1:45:07] management perspective we will be trying
[1:45:10] to ensure full accurate data that um
[1:45:15] give uh gives us the best opportunity
[1:45:18] for the formula to reflect uh payment
[1:45:21] towards our infrastructure needs
[1:45:26] councilor
[1:45:27] M thank you Deputy Mayor
[1:45:30] um I watched an interview with the
[1:45:33] minister of finance a few days ago uh
[1:45:37] interviewed by uh Steve pacon who does a
[1:45:40] great interview by the way um and and
[1:45:42] they were talking about the financial
[1:45:44] situation in Ontario and and he was
[1:45:46] describing to the interviewer how
[1:45:50] wonderful and Rosy the situation is in
[1:45:52] Ontario and and then in fact we're on
[1:45:55] the way within maybe two years of having
[1:45:58] a balanced budget in Ontario and and the
[1:46:01] the news was so good that they're uh
[1:46:03] they're planning on giving a a check of
[1:46:05] $200 to every man woman and child in
[1:46:08] Ontario next year but it's not to buy
[1:46:11] votes they made that quite clear it's
[1:46:12] not to buy votes but um I would think I
[1:46:16] I hope that at Roma we get a chance to
[1:46:18] and I'm sure there'll be other
[1:46:19] municipalities all looks like half that
[1:46:23] have had decreases in this ocif funding
[1:46:26] we'll we'll try and make the point and
[1:46:27] if I get the chance I'll get up to the
[1:46:29] microphone and make the point also that
[1:46:31] um you know sending out checks for
[1:46:34] $200 to people who are not expecting it
[1:46:36] or or in in some cases people who don't
[1:46:39] need it in a lot of cases like I don't
[1:46:41] think $200 is going to change my
[1:46:44] lifestyle in any way substantially or
[1:46:46] not um but they're they're choosing to
[1:46:49] do that with this money as opposed to
[1:46:51] reinvesting the money into good things
[1:46:54] like roads and bridges and
[1:46:56] infrastructure in in our community so um
[1:46:58] I was going to suggest maybe that we
[1:47:00] write a letter to the minister but I
[1:47:01] think we're only a little way ways away
[1:47:03] from Roma and I'm sure this is going to
[1:47:05] be a Hot Topic during that conference so
[1:47:08] I'm looking forward to attending Roma
[1:47:10] and bringing that message to the
[1:47:11] minister uh Peter bethan BBY that we're
[1:47:17] not particularly uh thrilled with these
[1:47:20] cutbacks and and we can see a trend and
[1:47:22] the trend is is not good even though
[1:47:23] they're partic they're anticipating
[1:47:25] Trends in the opposite direction so
[1:47:28] thank
[1:47:31] you councilor
[1:47:34] divinsky thank you Deputy Mayor it
[1:47:37] wasn't too long ago and no one's
[1:47:39] mentioned it this evening that our MPP
[1:47:43] Lisa
[1:47:45] Thompson I don't know if she's been
[1:47:47] contacted in any shape or form and uh we
[1:47:51] had her here not too long ago go for a
[1:47:54] luncheon and uh we told her about our
[1:47:58] concerns she took those concerns with
[1:48:01] her um exactly how much was done I don't
[1:48:04] know but at least we went up one level
[1:48:08] and I would like to uh
[1:48:12] suggest that we do the same thing again
[1:48:15] and have uh Lisa Thompson back and this
[1:48:19] could be one of the uh issues although
[1:48:23] it's based on formula as Dan says
[1:48:25] there's probably too much that can be
[1:48:26] done with it but that doesn't mean we
[1:48:29] shouldn't be able to get a detailed
[1:48:32] response uh from the ministry
[1:48:35] staff um they work for us like they work
[1:48:39] for the
[1:48:39] minister and uh we're entitled to that
[1:48:42] even though we know it's going to say
[1:48:45] here's why you can't have any more money
[1:48:49] but we need to involve I think Lisa
[1:48:52] Thompson
[1:48:54] because she is a member of the
[1:48:56] government and has that inside track so
[1:48:59] that's what I'm suggesting tonight thank
[1:49:03] you through you Deputy Mayor thank you
[1:49:05] for that suggestion and we will take
[1:49:07] that feedback and extend an invitation
[1:49:09] to Lisa Thompson to attend a meeting
[1:49:11] with Council to hear Sing shor's
[1:49:15] issues councelor
[1:49:17] stack thank you if I could add perhaps
[1:49:19] we could invite her specifically with a
[1:49:22] specific item itemized list and then we
[1:49:24] can advise the public whether she's
[1:49:26] willing or not to engage in that
[1:49:28] discussion with us because I've noticed
[1:49:29] you know we have no issues getting
[1:49:31] Representatives here when we're
[1:49:33] celebrating and recognizing the
[1:49:35] community which is really important but
[1:49:37] there's more to being our representative
[1:49:39] whether it's in the legislature or in
[1:49:40] Parliament than coming here to celebrate
[1:49:42] I'd like them to be able to sort of
[1:49:45] infor provide us with face-to-face
[1:49:47] discussion as to why these decisions are
[1:49:49] being made because this is a community
[1:49:51] that votes for them all the time
[1:49:54] through you Deputy Mayor not that I want
[1:49:56] to be in a position to defend our member
[1:49:59] of of parliament I think that's up to
[1:50:00] her but I will offer that um Lisa
[1:50:03] Thompson is very supportive of us when
[1:50:06] we attend Roma and Amo she often attends
[1:50:09] the town's delegations with us on behalf
[1:50:11] of um as our representative attends with
[1:50:14] those ministers she is very engaged we
[1:50:17] do interact with her staff quite
[1:50:19] frequently and bring forward all every
[1:50:21] grant that we apply for every issue that
[1:50:23] we have does go across her desk so I
[1:50:25] will just offer that but we will extend
[1:50:27] the invitation to her and I'm happy to
[1:50:29] prepare an agenda for that
[1:50:33] meeting councelor
[1:50:36] hin through you mayor Deputy Mayor if we
[1:50:39] have such good access how come we have
[1:50:41] to hire Willington Dupont to give us
[1:50:44] access to the Ministries
[1:50:53] through through you madam chair I don't
[1:50:54] know that I can offer any more than I
[1:50:55] said with my last answer uh we have
[1:50:58] access to our
[1:51:00] MPP uh the provincial government is is a
[1:51:03] large organization I don't know how big
[1:51:05] it is I could Google it but there are
[1:51:07] many ministers many ministers staff it
[1:51:10] is highly complex we did not hire
[1:51:13] Wellington Dupont to move forward
[1:51:15] discussions on ocf we hired them in
[1:51:17] order to advance our funding
[1:51:19] applications they offered to help us on
[1:51:22] this because we were hitting such a wall
[1:51:24] with um interactions with staff as you
[1:51:26] heard from our staff they tried for
[1:51:27] several months could not get answers so
[1:51:30] we decided it would be relevant to um
[1:51:33] elevate it to the minister
[1:51:38] level councelor hin okay I I think
[1:51:42] there's something wrong in the system
[1:51:44] when we have to spend taxpayers money to
[1:51:47] talk to the next level of government
[1:51:49] thank
[1:51:50] you councelor stack
[1:51:53] while I agree with councelor hlin I we
[1:51:55] recognize that this is not the to the
[1:51:58] town staff or the cao's issue you're
[1:52:00] responding to the realities of the
[1:52:02] political system and so at least from my
[1:52:04] end I'm not suggesting that the staff is
[1:52:07] the issue it's a frustrating process and
[1:52:10] I think I just wanted to recognize
[1:52:13] that well I want to thank Daniel for um
[1:52:16] both in his written report and his
[1:52:18] verbal com comments doing a pretty good
[1:52:21] job at explaining a vinal formula that
[1:52:24] doesn't make a whole lot of sense when
[1:52:25] you start to put the component parts
[1:52:27] together but the way you describe it
[1:52:29] helps us understand there is a
[1:52:30] recommendation before us that Council
[1:52:32] receive the Ontario community
[1:52:34] infrastructure fund ocif update report
[1:52:37] for information all those in favor
[1:52:40] that's carried we have um five items on
[1:52:43] the communications
[1:52:46] agenda any member wish to speak to
[1:52:49] councelor divinsky
[1:52:52] yes thank you deputy mayor uh the
[1:52:55] Southampton Bia
[1:52:57] minutes I'd like
[1:52:59] to pull out if I
[1:53:02] could I'm just bringing them up you'd
[1:53:06] think I'd know about this stuff and I do
[1:53:09] to a certain extent but what I wanted to
[1:53:12] point out
[1:53:13] is in the to report that I
[1:53:17] made uh which is item
[1:53:20] 12 I said that town is likely allocating
[1:53:24] an additional sidewalk snow plow to
[1:53:27] Southampton so that all streets will
[1:53:31] benefit
[1:53:33] period I did not
[1:53:35] say from this early morning wakeup
[1:53:39] service that was not me that said
[1:53:42] that thank you for that clarification
[1:53:45] thank
[1:53:48] you I can comment that the snowplow
[1:53:50] around the arena is pretty early morning
[1:53:53] wake up for me 3:30 most days um any
[1:53:57] other comments about any of these
[1:53:59] items okay then we'll move on to report
[1:54:02] of Municipal counselors Vice Deputy
[1:54:05] Mayor yeah thank you
[1:54:09] um Deputy Mayor and I I just uh want to
[1:54:13] congratulate all those who helped with
[1:54:14] the food bank um last Last Friday the
[1:54:17] day after Halloween I went over to the
[1:54:19] boat house and made my my cash to ation
[1:54:22] and thank the volunteers for all their
[1:54:25] good work that they were doing that day
[1:54:26] boy they were taking in a a ton of uh of
[1:54:29] canned goods so it was really good to
[1:54:31] see
[1:54:33] um November is um is is an important
[1:54:38] month in that uh men men across Canada
[1:54:43] will be growing a mustache in support of
[1:54:46] um raising awareness and funds for for
[1:54:50] Men's Health especially prostate cancer
[1:54:53] testic cancer mental health and suicide
[1:54:57] prevention and I just want to throw this
[1:55:00] out there to the community that and to
[1:55:02] all men and news media who covering this
[1:55:06] meeting tonight that
[1:55:09] um early detection through routine blood
[1:55:13] work can help save a father a son a
[1:55:17] friend a partner and a man's life and um
[1:55:22] if you're approach to make a donation to
[1:55:25] to a volunteer tax deductible make that
[1:55:29] donation and uh in support of raising
[1:55:31] awareness for for prostate cancer and
[1:55:36] uh I'll just leave it at
[1:55:39] that councelor
[1:55:44] Grace uh thank you U Madame Deputy
[1:55:47] Mayor um there's been a lot going on um
[1:55:52] I want to
[1:55:53] thank um everyone who was involved in
[1:55:57] organizing the Halloween event um on
[1:56:00] Halloween evening at Ferry
[1:56:03] Lake um I believe there were over
[1:56:07] 550 uh people involved in that and
[1:56:11] despite the fact that the weather closed
[1:56:13] in about halfway through um it was uh it
[1:56:17] was something that has been established
[1:56:20] now I think as a wonderful tradition a
[1:56:23] wonderful Community tradition that um is
[1:56:27] really terrific for our our children and
[1:56:30] uh their fam and the families and I also
[1:56:33] want to thank all of the local
[1:56:34] businesses Who provided
[1:56:36] trick-or-treating opportunities for
[1:56:39] families on the weekend throughout our
[1:56:41] downtowns um you're very busy and it was
[1:56:44] very generous of you to provide that
[1:56:46] opportunity as
[1:56:48] well um I wanted to remind people that
[1:56:51] the community dinners at St Paul's
[1:56:53] Anglican Church have started again they
[1:56:56] started in
[1:56:57] October and they are held on the second
[1:57:00] and fourth Wednesday of each month
[1:57:03] October to May from 5: to
[1:57:05] 6:15 uh p.m and uh I know some has been
[1:57:10] said about the uh human
[1:57:12] trafficking um event that was held at
[1:57:15] Faith Lutheran church so I want to thank
[1:57:18] Faith Lutheran Church for hosting that
[1:57:20] event over 200 50 people there organized
[1:57:24] by Aon zorzy in the port Elgen
[1:57:27] rotary and
[1:57:29] um you know it it it was um fantastic to
[1:57:35] see our sogging Shores police leadership
[1:57:39] in this and I'm very grateful to all of
[1:57:42] our social
[1:57:44] services uh who attended that and uh
[1:57:47] spoke on the panel discussion thank you
[1:57:52] councilor
[1:57:57] divinsky thank you Deputy Mayor um on
[1:58:01] October
[1:58:02] 30th I attended the RBC business
[1:58:06] Symposium right here as a matter of fact
[1:58:09] as did you and um it was an
[1:58:14] interesting uh an interesting uh get
[1:58:18] together uh some of it was above my pay
[1:58:21] grade when they they were talking but um
[1:58:25] I was happy to see our Deputy Mayor
[1:58:28] bring it back down to local with a with
[1:58:30] a question about local because it was
[1:58:33] getting way out there I had gone because
[1:58:36] I'd hoped this the Southampton Bia
[1:58:40] members would be there but it was the
[1:58:42] wrong time for them 8:00 am to 11:00 am
[1:58:46] they may have found it interesting and
[1:58:48] then on um November 5th I did it attend
[1:58:52] the AGM of the Bia some great comments
[1:58:57] come out of that meeting I thought it
[1:59:00] was well handled again our deputy mayor
[1:59:02] was there as was uh councelor Cheryl
[1:59:05] Grace and uh there were some great news
[1:59:08] come out of there and uh we'll share
[1:59:11] that I guess with Council on November
[1:59:15] 25th is it okay and then
[1:59:19] finally the winter hawks aren doing so
[1:59:23] great they're they're having a problem
[1:59:25] here winning and I think the problem is
[1:59:28] us the fans we've got to show more
[1:59:31] support so they're on the road for a
[1:59:34] while now November 22nd is the next home
[1:59:39] game for your sogging
[1:59:42] showers winter
[1:59:47] rocks councelor May yes thank you uh
[1:59:51] deput mayor I don't have very much to
[1:59:53] report except I'll just say thank you to
[1:59:55] the staff at at the reol Port Elgen uh
[1:59:59] store who are providing Co shots and flu
[2:00:02] shots and my wife and I took advantage
[2:00:05] of that opportunity last week and I
[2:00:07] encourage everybody to to get their Co
[2:00:09] shot co has not gone away it's uh it's
[2:00:11] still around so get your protection
[2:00:13] while it's available thank
[2:00:15] you councelor
[2:00:18] Halton councelor stack thank you just a
[2:00:22] quick one a reminder that it is the port
[2:00:23] algen ba Shoppers night on Thursday this
[2:00:26] week um depending on which sign you read
[2:00:30] it starts at around 5 5:30 is what the
[2:00:32] sign says but it starts at around 5: to
[2:00:35] 9 on Thursday
[2:00:37] thanks thank you um I have been the
[2:00:40] acting mayor for a week and uh so did a
[2:00:43] couple of things on behalf of the mayor
[2:00:45] and a few things on behalf of myself but
[2:00:46] I just wanted to comment um that I very
[2:00:49] much appreciated um the interactions I
[2:00:52] had with both the director of Public
[2:00:53] Works and with the fire chief who um I
[2:00:57] had occasion to ask them questions or
[2:00:59] have them be close enough to offer um
[2:01:02] support if needed uh at various events
[2:01:04] around the community so thank you to
[2:01:06] both um Mark and Ed um I was at the
[2:01:09] economic development um activity here at
[2:01:12] the nii with RBC and the nuclear
[2:01:14] Innovation Institute and Bruce Power um
[2:01:16] what I will say is that um at that
[2:01:19] meeting I met Agnes whose last name
[2:01:21] escapes but Agnes is now the full-time
[2:01:24] manager of the RBC location in sogging
[2:01:27] Shores that's a real win for us um
[2:01:30] because we did use to share um a manager
[2:01:33] with with another location so Agnes is
[2:01:35] here full-time very excited about that
[2:01:38] um councelor Grace and I um attended a a
[2:01:41] a little TBL talk uh Town Hall kind of
[2:01:44] meeting at Hampton Court we had a a I
[2:01:47] don't know if we were the captive
[2:01:48] audience or they were the captive
[2:01:50] audience but we uh we sat down with a
[2:01:52] group of uh women there and just shot
[2:01:55] the breeze about all kinds of things
[2:01:56] going on in town and and um the first
[2:01:59] thing that came up was the condition of
[2:02:01] sidewalks um so they they get out and
[2:02:03] about so U we we look forward to doing
[2:02:06] that in the future if anybody else wants
[2:02:07] to join I I try and do that a couple
[2:02:09] times uh each year I went to the Bruce
[2:02:11] County Historical Society AGM and one of
[2:02:14] the um topics there or the speaker there
[2:02:17] were the two filmmakers um Evan and
[2:02:21] Ivonne who are um involved with what's
[2:02:24] the name of their company oh my gosh I
[2:02:25] forgotten it but anyway they're they're
[2:02:27] the um pair that did the documentary
[2:02:30] series The three-part series The Bruce
[2:02:32] their current series that's out there
[2:02:34] right now is called all too clear it was
[2:02:36] broadcast on TVO over three Saturdays
[2:02:39] you can see it on YouTube though it's
[2:02:41] fascinating they had at the AGM the
[2:02:44] little underwater drone and I say little
[2:02:46] it's it's quite small but when you see
[2:02:49] the documentary the footage is just it's
[2:02:51] it's you know James Cameron going down
[2:02:53] to the Titanic it's it's amazing footage
[2:02:56] um of what's going on in the Great Lakes
[2:02:58] um setting up challenges opportunities
[2:03:01] and it's very inspiring to see um The
[2:03:04] Return of lake trout among other things
[2:03:06] and if you've ever wanted to know um how
[2:03:09] fish really get it on there's some of
[2:03:12] that footage in there too um you can you
[2:03:14] can watch it on YouTube I went to
[2:03:17] Southport um Church um was a week ago
[2:03:21] now they had a television crew there
[2:03:23] from the yes TV network um the church is
[2:03:26] involved in a number of of um activities
[2:03:29] but there's a um a prayer Network that
[2:03:31] they're very involved with so yes TV was
[2:03:35] there doing some filming they were out
[2:03:37] and around um so shores as well so um I
[2:03:40] was able to participate in their their
[2:03:42] program um I believe it's going to be on
[2:03:45] yes TV the first or second week of
[2:03:47] December um I'll try and get that
[2:03:49] information and maybe it can be shared
[2:03:52] I went to the South uh Hampton Bia GM as
[2:03:56] uh councelor D divinsky mentioned I also
[2:03:58] went to the port algen Bia meeting last
[2:04:00] week and councelor stack mentioned
[2:04:02] Shoppers night um at the that Bia
[2:04:04] meeting they also talked a little bit
[2:04:06] about the success of the market um
[2:04:08] exercise last summer and the um
[2:04:12] potential for possible expansion next
[2:04:14] year so I I assume we'll we'll hear from
[2:04:16] them soon um couple of the the bigger
[2:04:20] things that I did um perhaps
[2:04:22] where I got to go to County Council
[2:04:23] again last uh Thursday and it was um
[2:04:27] always it's always an interesting um
[2:04:29] experience but they were talking about
[2:04:31] their budget so it was a good sort of
[2:04:33] preamble to our own uh business planning
[2:04:35] budget meetings coming up and um it was
[2:04:39] certainly um helpful I guess to me to
[2:04:42] understand just the reach that the
[2:04:44] county has into sing Shores so if you
[2:04:46] haven't ever looked at the Bruce County
[2:04:47] budget um there's a lot of elements that
[2:04:50] touch on on what goes on here in so
[2:04:51] Shores I also went down to Bruce Power
[2:04:55] last Friday the CEO was also there for
[2:04:57] the announcement about um the the
[2:05:00] minister of energy was there Steven
[2:05:01] leche and Lisa Thompson was there as
[2:05:03] well and um and also Rick buers there
[2:05:08] was an announcement about how isotope
[2:05:10] manufacturing will be taking place right
[2:05:13] here in Bruce County we will no longer
[2:05:15] have to send off Material off to Germany
[2:05:18] to have it um created or or produced
[2:05:20] into a product that can then be used for
[2:05:23] cancer U treatments um that facility um
[2:05:26] will now be available in Bruce County
[2:05:28] they didn't say where but Bruce county
[2:05:30] is much closer than Germany they also
[2:05:32] said that uh unit 4 was about to start
[2:05:34] being refurbished in March um I
[2:05:37] continued on on Friday to County Road 19
[2:05:41] um where there was a plaque unveiling
[2:05:43] which commemorated the route that
[2:05:45] soldiers took um in
[2:05:47] 1916 from Walkerton to Chesley and back
[2:05:51] a mar Mar that they made they marched
[2:05:52] from Walkerton to Chesley to receive
[2:05:54] their colors it was the 160th Bruce
[2:05:57] Bruce Battalion they received their
[2:05:59] colors in Chesley from the premier at
[2:06:01] the time heern and then marched back to
[2:06:03] Walkerton that stretch of road is now
[2:06:05] named the highway for peace and their
[2:06:07] signage up I did want to end by saying
[2:06:10] um that um many of us were at
[2:06:12] Remembrance Day services today um at
[2:06:14] both port algen and the Southampton
[2:06:16] Senate halfs and it was good to have the
[2:06:18] involvement of of uh our own fire fire
[2:06:21] uh Fighters at those events and also the
[2:06:23] police were at at both events as well
[2:06:26] and if I could ask um I know that
[2:06:28] there's um a public engagement
[2:06:30] opportunity right now associated with
[2:06:32] the business plan um Can someone just
[2:06:35] comment on um what the timeline is for
[2:06:37] that I I just can't remember when the
[2:06:39] closing date is for the public to make
[2:06:41] comments oh
[2:06:44] yes uh thank you uh Deputy Mayor I don't
[2:06:48] know I'm looking at the back at Jill if
[2:06:50] she knows the closing date for I believe
[2:06:52] it's maybe the end of this week in order
[2:06:54] to allow us to prepare um the response
[2:06:57] in order for Council consideration on
[2:06:58] the 20th but uh the director of will be
[2:07:02] able to answer it better than I will
[2:07:04] when he's back in the room but access to
[2:07:06] the feedbook feedback is via the
[2:07:09] website is that correct yes okay thank
[2:07:13] you very much and having know new
[2:07:15] business I will now ask for a motion for
[2:07:17] adjournment of the committee of the
[2:07:19] whole councelor stack seconded by by
[2:07:21] councelor Halpin so um the motion is to
[2:07:24] adjourn at 8:38 p.m. all those in favor
[2:07:28] um and maybe we'll take a 10-minute
[2:07:30] break and reconvene at uh 10 minutes to
[2:07:35] 9ine thank
[2:07:50] you
[2:08:20] e e
[2:19:32] it is 10
[2:19:37] to9 it is 10 to n
[2:19:42] so I'm
[2:19:45] GNA I'm going to call to order this
[2:19:48] meeting this regular council meeting of
[2:19:49] the town of SOI Shores um for Monday
[2:19:53] November the 11th um we will um be we
[2:19:58] have a motion uh for an addition to the
[2:20:01] closed public session but uh before that
[2:20:04] happens um I'd like to just ask if
[2:20:07] members of council would be acceptable
[2:20:09] to moving item nine on the agenda 9.1
[2:20:13] which is the Environmental ad hoc
[2:20:15] committee final report if we move that
[2:20:18] up to the top of the agenda
[2:20:21] um ahead of um or right after we do the
[2:20:24] um Amendment which is the addition to
[2:20:27] the closed agenda is everyone in
[2:20:30] acceptance of moving that
[2:20:32] item okay thank you very much for that
[2:20:35] then we have
[2:20:37] um if you would like to uh declare a
[2:20:40] pecuniary interest anything on the
[2:20:42] agenda you can do that now or at any
[2:20:43] point during the
[2:20:45] meeting then the next item on the agenda
[2:20:48] is additions deletions or amendments and
[2:20:50] there there is a a request for a motion
[2:20:54] that would add to the close uh to public
[2:20:58] session the recommendation is that
[2:21:00] Council add item 6.3.3 to the close to
[2:21:04] public council meeting agenda for
[2:21:06] November the 11th 2024 and in accordance
[2:21:09] with the municipal act section 239 item
[2:21:12] two um subsection k a position Place
[2:21:16] procedure criteria or instruction to be
[2:21:18] applied to any negotiations carried on
[2:21:21] or to be carried on by or on behalf of
[2:21:24] the municipality or the local board um
[2:21:27] this relates to the Bruce C Municipal
[2:21:29] capacity funding update um can I have a
[2:21:31] mover and a seconder for that Amendment
[2:21:33] moved by councelor Grace seconded by
[2:21:35] councelor halpen any discussion all in
[2:21:38] favor thank you very much then we will
[2:21:41] jump down to 9.1 which is the
[2:21:44] Environmental ad hoc committee final
[2:21:47] report and um the recommendation is that
[2:21:51] the environmental ad hoc committee final
[2:21:53] report be received for information and
[2:21:54] referred to staff for a report back on
[2:21:57] the implementation of the
[2:21:58] recommendations of the committee
[2:21:59] councelor Grace has chaired that
[2:22:01] committee and she would like to speak to
[2:22:03] this
[2:22:06] report thank you Madame Deputy Mayor and
[2:22:08] thank you uh to my colleagues for
[2:22:11] allowing us to move this up I know that
[2:22:14] uh we have one member of the public in
[2:22:17] the in the audience and we have uh I
[2:22:20] think me members of the committee also
[2:22:22] at home who are watching and I'm sure
[2:22:24] they'd appreciate this being moved up
[2:22:27] I'm pleased to report that the
[2:22:28] environmental ad hoc committee has
[2:22:30] completed its assigned mandate and is
[2:22:33] presenting the attached report and
[2:22:35] supporting subcomittee
[2:22:37] reports as a reminder for all our charge
[2:22:40] grew out of the work of the
[2:22:42] 2021 environmental stewardship ad hoc
[2:22:46] advisory committee which presented its
[2:22:48] final report to council in February of
[2:22:52] 2022 from this report this year's
[2:22:55] committee was asked to do further work
[2:22:57] to support council's Direction regarding
[2:23:00] the creation of a sogging Shores climate
[2:23:02] action plan and an urban tree canaby
[2:23:06] plan and as well as a process for
[2:23:09] establishing an annual environmental
[2:23:11] stewardship award and improving
[2:23:13] Community awareness and engagement in
[2:23:16] environmental issues I want to thank the
[2:23:19] members uh the committee members for
[2:23:21] their hard work and contributions in
[2:23:23] completing this project odet bartnicki
[2:23:27] Dan dachuk councelor Bud halpen Kathy
[2:23:30] McIntosh Brent proud and Victoria sandre
[2:23:35] the committee also thanks these staff
[2:23:37] members for their support and guidance
[2:23:39] Mark poy Sarah bonde Don midd Holtz
[2:23:43] Frank buroughs Kristen Sears Jay pner
[2:23:47] Jill root and Laura muscone
[2:23:52] regarding developing a soggy Shores
[2:23:54] climate action plan our research makes
[2:23:57] clear the importance of taking action to
[2:24:00] increase increase climate resilience now
[2:24:03] to prevent greater costs in the future
[2:24:06] suggesting research suggests that every
[2:24:09] $1 invested in prevention and
[2:24:12] preparation can save up to $15 in future
[2:24:16] costs this includes evidence that
[2:24:18] sharply increasing municipal insurance
[2:24:20] rates can be lowered by ensuring that
[2:24:24] Municipal infrastructure is climate
[2:24:26] resilient the committee is recommending
[2:24:29] that the municipality join the partners
[2:24:31] for climate Protection Program which is
[2:24:34] affiliated with the Federation of canadi
[2:24:37] Canadian
[2:24:38] municipalities this program provides
[2:24:40] many resources to support climate action
[2:24:44] and environmental
[2:24:46] sustainability joining has no initial
[2:24:48] cost although preparing ing a climate
[2:24:51] action plan will have a cost how much
[2:24:54] depends on whether outside expertise
[2:24:56] needs to be
[2:24:58] hired very importantly there is also a
[2:25:01] much greater grant funding availability
[2:25:04] for municipalities with climate
[2:25:06] adaptation plans through programs like
[2:25:09] infrastructure
[2:25:10] Canada's green Municipal
[2:25:13] fund to Pro promote and create awareness
[2:25:16] of the environment the committee
[2:25:18] recommends establishing an annually
[2:25:20] appointed ad hoc environmental Community
[2:25:24] engagement committee this committee
[2:25:26] would support staff and reduce costs by
[2:25:29] promoting environmental sustainability
[2:25:31] through events and an environmental
[2:25:34] Champion Awards program recognizing
[2:25:37] household individual and business-based
[2:25:40] sustainable practices through public
[2:25:43] events and an awards program or an
[2:25:46] integral part of devel developing
[2:25:48] CommunityWide and environmental
[2:25:51] sustainability the committee supports
[2:25:54] the draft Urban Tree canopy plan and its
[2:25:57] recommendations including some of these
[2:25:59] additional
[2:26:00] recommendations focus on protecting and
[2:26:02] growing the municipal tree canopy
[2:26:05] through planting maintenance public
[2:26:08] education and active enforcement to
[2:26:11] protect Municipal trees and plants from
[2:26:14] illegal
[2:26:15] interference regarding trees on
[2:26:17] privately owned lands we recommend
[2:26:20] develop developing canopy protection at
[2:26:23] the level of wood lots and significant
[2:26:26] Woodlands for individual trees on
[2:26:29] smaller Lots focus on preservation
[2:26:33] education and incentivization through
[2:26:36] expanding subsidized tree planting
[2:26:39] program uh programs I should say uh and
[2:26:43] also encourage public engagement and
[2:26:45] increased data collection through the
[2:26:48] development of a citizen scientist type
[2:26:50] reporting system on the numbers of
[2:26:53] private trees including significant
[2:26:55] trees in conclusion the committee
[2:26:58] believes that no municipality is too
[2:27:00] small nor is it too early to create and
[2:27:04] Implement a climate action plan and
[2:27:06] improve its level of environmental
[2:27:09] sustainability our town has already
[2:27:11] implemented some changes to work towards
[2:27:14] this the work of the environmental ad
[2:27:17] hoc committee has demonstrated that
[2:27:19] Community involved ment support from
[2:27:22] Municipal leaders and providing
[2:27:24] opportunities for climate action will
[2:27:26] create a more sustainable sogging Shores
[2:27:29] thank you I am open to answering
[2:27:35] questions thank you very much councelor
[2:27:38] grace um are there any comments or
[2:27:41] questions this we will be receiving
[2:27:43] additional information um coming back
[2:27:46] from staff about um the recommendations
[2:27:48] in the committee's report are there any
[2:27:53] comments seeing none then the
[2:27:55] recommendation is that the environmental
[2:27:57] ad hoc committee final report be
[2:27:59] received for information and referred to
[2:28:01] staff for a report back on the
[2:28:03] implementation of the recommendations of
[2:28:05] the
[2:28:06] committee all those in favor that's
[2:28:11] carried I asked you if we did you didn't
[2:28:15] tell okay I guess we need a move in a
[2:28:18] second or yeah I knew I was gonna g mess
[2:28:20] up I told you um moved by councelor
[2:28:22] Halpin seconded by councelor
[2:28:25] Stack I won't read it again but all
[2:28:27] those in
[2:28:29] favor thank you very much that's
[2:28:40] carried um we have uh two sets of
[2:28:43] minutes um the recommendation is that
[2:28:47] Council adopt the minutes of the regular
[2:28:49] Council meetings of October 21 and
[2:28:51] October 28 2024 and Note and file the
[2:28:54] minutes of the committee of the whole
[2:28:56] meeting of October the 28th 2024 has
[2:28:58] presented can I have a moover and a
[2:29:00] seconder for that mve by councelor Grace
[2:29:03] seconded by councelor divinsky any
[2:29:05] discussion about the mo the U
[2:29:09] minutes I believe um there was one thing
[2:29:12] that was going to be corrected I think
[2:29:13] we noted um that you were at councelor
[2:29:17] mayette was at a meeting that you
[2:29:18] weren't at
[2:29:23] so that yeah so that that's been picked
[2:29:27] up um thank you through you uh Deputy
[2:29:30] Mayor Huber yes so for the October 21st
[2:29:33] uh we'll be moving uh councelor Maya
[2:29:37] from attending to
[2:29:40] absent thank you anything else all those
[2:29:43] in favor then and that's
[2:29:48] carried so now we're um it's recommended
[2:29:50] that we go into a closed public session
[2:29:53] and the recommendation
[2:29:57] is the council move into a close to
[2:29:59] public session in in accordance with the
[2:30:01] municipal act 2001 section 239
[2:30:05] subsection two um with item c a proposed
[2:30:09] or pending acquisition or disposition of
[2:30:12] land by the municipality or the local
[2:30:14] board D Labor Relations or employee
[2:30:17] negotiations and k a position plan
[2:30:21] procedure criteria or instruction to be
[2:30:23] applied to any negotiations carried on
[2:30:26] or to be carried on by or on behalf of
[2:30:29] the municipality or local board can I
[2:30:31] have a mover and a seconder for that
[2:30:33] moved by councelor Stack seconded by the
[2:30:35] Vice Deputy Mayor all in favor okay
[2:30:39] we'll go into
[2:30:48] closed
[2:31:18] e e
[3:29:58] hey I
[3:30:16] okay I'm we're going to resume our our
[3:30:20] meeting
[3:30:23] so there's a recommendation that Council
[3:30:26] arise from the close to public session
[3:30:27] and resume the regular council meeting
[3:30:29] can I have a move in a second or move by
[3:30:31] councelor halpen seconded by councelor
[3:30:34] mayette and I will report out that uh
[3:30:37] during the closed session uh Council
[3:30:40] provided direction to staff concerning a
[3:30:43] proposed or pending acquisition or
[3:30:46] disposition of land by the municipality
[3:30:48] um and Labor Relations or employee
[3:30:52] negotiations and also rep uh gave
[3:30:54] Direction related to a position plan
[3:30:57] procedure criteria or instruction to be
[3:30:59] applied to any negotiations carried on
[3:31:02] or to be carried on by or on behalf of
[3:31:06] the municipality
[3:31:29] so I've I've had had some amendments and
[3:31:32] nudged my way from over here uh first of
[3:31:35] all I didn't take the vote to resume so
[3:31:37] all in favor I thought I had okay so
[3:31:40] we're back in in open and in reporting
[3:31:43] about what happened um the direction was
[3:31:45] provided related
[3:31:47] to labor negotiations for collective
[3:31:50] bargaining and direction for on
[3:31:52] negotiations with the blue water
[3:31:53] district school board for potential land
[3:31:56] disposition and Council provided
[3:31:58] Direction on a negotiation for the Bruce
[3:32:00] SE Municipal capacity
[3:32:03] funding is that okay okay all right told
[3:32:07] you it was going to be fun okay we have
[3:32:10] um we're down to number eight in the
[3:32:12] agenda we have committee reports and
[3:32:15] there's a recommendation there are five
[3:32:17] items there for consideration uh does
[3:32:19] anybody want any of them taken um out
[3:32:22] and talked about separately or can we
[3:32:24] deal with them all out at
[3:32:25] once seeing
[3:32:28] nothing so I need a motion to um the
[3:32:32] recommendation would be that Council
[3:32:33] receive the landfill optimization
[3:32:36] environmental assessment terms of
[3:32:38] reference report for information the
[3:32:40] council received the public engagement
[3:32:42] comments and feedback on High Street
[3:32:44] reconstruction and senat improve
[3:32:45] improvements project report for
[3:32:47] information the council approved the
[3:32:49] capital budget pre-approval report dated
[3:32:52] October 28th 20124 totaling 2,
[3:33:16] any discussion about any of those all in
[3:33:19] favor that's
[3:33:21] carried we also have a committee report
[3:33:25] which uh the recommendation is that
[3:33:26] Council endorse the resolution from the
[3:33:29] town of Bradford West willberry
[3:33:32] regarding the Ontario deposit return
[3:33:34] program and that this resolution be
[3:33:36] circulated to Premier Doug Ford the
[3:33:39] Minister of Finance
[3:33:42] Peter bethlen FY MP Ben lob MPP Lisa
[3:33:47] Thompson and the sing Valley
[3:33:49] conservation Authority can I have a move
[3:33:50] in a second or for that move by
[3:33:53] counselor halpen seconded by councelor
[3:33:55] Stack is there any
[3:33:57] discussion all those in
[3:34:01] favor and then we have a uh notice of
[3:34:05] motion concerning um intimate partner
[3:34:08] violence that will be on a future agenda
[3:34:10] so it's just here for information at the
[3:34:12] moment and we're down to bylaws um we we
[3:34:15] have a recommendation that bylaw 87
[3:34:18] point or 87- 2024 is hereby read a first
[3:34:21] second and third time passed and sealed
[3:34:24] this 11th day of
[3:34:25] November um 2024 this is to authorize
[3:34:29] it's the authorized procedural
[3:34:31] bylaw can I have a mover in a seconder
[3:34:33] for that moveed by councelor Grace
[3:34:36] seconded by councelor Stack any
[3:34:39] discussion all those in
[3:34:41] favor and one more that's carried
[3:34:45] uh we have a recommendation that bylaw
[3:34:48] 88- 2024 being a bylaw to confirm the
[3:34:51] proceedings of the Council of the town
[3:34:53] of saging Shores he's hereby read a
[3:34:55] first second and third time and finally
[3:34:57] passed and seal this 11th day of
[3:34:59] November 2024 can have a move in a
[3:35:01] second for that moveed by councelor
[3:35:02] Stack seconded by councelor Halpin all
[3:35:05] those in
[3:35:06] favor that's carried one more uh a
[3:35:09] recommendation that this regular council
[3:35:11] meeting of November the 11th 2024 hereby
[3:35:14] adjourns at 10:06 PM can I have a move
[3:35:17] in a second for that move by councelor
[3:35:19] Stack seconded by counselor mayette any
[3:35:22] discussion all those in favor the
[3:35:24] meeting is adjourned thank you very much