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[0:18] all right so we are on YouTube live but
we are
[0:22] recording okay well welcome everybody
Min are delay we're all good we're not
[0:29] perfect but okay so we're going to
charge ahead uh I'd like to call the
[0:33] meeting to order and welcome everybody
as is our custom uh and for Carol's
[0:38] benefit who is at home uh well not at
home is in
[0:43] Oakville uh she has uh has called in
with us here can we go around the table
[0:48] and Diana can we start with you
Diana ter tuck Lisa vellan Sandra
[0:57] hollingworth Don McConnell Dian
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moral and
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S and Carol can you hear us
[1:15] okay I can hear you but it sounds a
little bit
[1:20] tiny okay I think it's the sides of the
room
[1:26] okay well ch
we're just I not
[1:32] cons I I'm not considered Carol Magnum
Committee Member anymore I'm considered
[1:39] Carol magnan and
Osmond committee
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members Well we'd like to welcome Austin
[1:49] to the
meeting that's great we're looking
[1:52] forward to meeting you Osman in person
Carol if you do need somebody to repeat
[1:57] something uh just speak up we are in a
very large room
[2:01] today um okay and
uh given that uh has everyone had a
[2:09] chance to look at the minutes from our
last
[2:15] meeting if so can we have a mover and a
seconder to approve
[2:20] those Derek moved by Derek seconded by
Diana all in
[2:27] favor thank you uh and as is our uh as
is our requirement we do have to ask if
[2:35] anyone has a declaration of a conflict
of interest you only have a a conflict
[2:40] of interest if you have a pecuniary
interest or benefit to be gained by some
[2:47] decision the committee will make dur
today you are a member of your immediate
[2:52] family and I suspect we have none so
we're going to move right ahead onto new
[2:58] business um than can I turn this part of
the meeting over to you sure um there's
[3:04] a lot of things going on at the
accessibility office and um this was one
[3:10] that happened through the course of the
summer um enabling accessibility fund I
[3:15] probably should have reported on that at
the last meeting but it slipped my
[3:20] mind um and it's for the manso park
updates uh originally the application
[3:27] was B I think it's $120,000
was the max funding for that and um we
[3:35] had hoped we would have uh enough means
to be able to build an addition for the
[3:43] Manzo Park so that we could have a fully
Universal
[3:48] washroom uh adult change table but um it
just wasn't possible given the time
[3:55] frame there needs to be some engineering
work done so we went to Plan B given the
[4:01] time frames and plan B was uh to do some
accessibility upgrades with what's
[4:08] already there so the Manzo Park and and
splash pad uh and pool area what was
[4:16] applied for is um a ramp into the pool
because currently it isn't accessible to
[4:24] anyone with Mobility disability so it
would be by means of a ramp um uh
[4:30] widening the pool deck around the pool
because um it is fairly narrow two
[4:38] people can pass each other but there
might not be enough space for someone in
[4:42] a Mobility device and or a person
walking so we needed a wider pool deck
[4:49] um it would also
include uh updated paved Pathways
[4:56] there's quite a few paved Pathways in
that Park that are in very good shape
[5:02] but there are a couple that are in poor
shape they've got some some bumps and
[5:06] some poles through them as well there's
um there is a a tennis court on site and
[5:15] a very old rundown botchy Court um The
Botch Court will be updated and will be
[5:24] fully accessible so should anyone want
to play bot that is that has a Mobility
[5:30] device they can also
participate uh there will be Paths of
[5:34] travel to the bot Port as well as to the
tennis
[5:39] courts um there will be a new paved
Pathway to the playground and there will
[5:46] be some uh a very small but accessible
playground with full rubber surfacing uh
[5:53] underneath that Park as well it's a kind
of a small perk I think there's swings
[5:58] and uh a small kind of universal kind of
climbing thing um so there will be some
[6:06] updated Park equipment plus some some
good Paths of
[6:10] travel um so that is the application
that was done this summer between
[6:15] Virginia and myself and we don't know
the results of that yet but hopefully
[6:21] that will be coming out soon and we can
work on that next
[6:24] spring so that is the information on
that one just out of curiosity the
[6:31] tennis court that's there are they
reviewing the tennis court no no Tenn it
[6:36] will still be a tennis court and I think
I didn't go to really see up close the
[6:42] tennis court but it looked like it was
still in in quite usable shape good
[6:46] stuff thank you and we're getting all
that for
[6:49] $120,000 well
$120,000 and there I I forget what the
[6:56] what the percentag is that will will
need to come from the city for that uh I
[7:00] don't know if it was a 25%
75% or I don't remember and you can do
[7:06] that in kind of
Labor okay so okay it depends but
[7:11] usually
it's 75 25 or 8020 it just depends right
[7:17] right and I was thinking
7525 was the
[7:22] yeah okay thank
you did you want to move on to the
[7:28] attached letter for green and inclusive
community building Grant application for
[7:33] the Dr Road Center yes so that one uh is
due for um the application is due on
[7:42] October 16th and it's uh green and
inclusive it's a federal application so
[7:50] the green is a must part of the
application the inclusive is a uh you
[7:57] get bonus points if it's all also
accessible yeah so um Emily Cormier who
[8:03] is the city's sustainability coordinator
has some rather large plans for some
[8:10] green
infrastructure uh that will be included
[8:13] on that Grant and from the accessibility
point of view uh we will be applying for
[8:20] funding for the um for the accessible
bleachers for the John roads Arena the
[8:25] one that does not have any accessible uh
seating
[8:31] areas uh that will be a kind of a
modular type elevated
[8:37] platform uh that will be accessible
it'll be at the end of the
[8:42] Arena um and it will be it will be a
large open area and then we'll we'll
[8:48] bring in some some portable seats kind
of like what we have here that we're
[8:53] using today uh for any companion seating
so there'll be lots of room for problem
[8:59] probably up to about six people or maybe
more with Mobility devices for the
[9:04] viewing area so that's the inclusive
people of the Grant and um and at our
[9:12] last um at our last meeting we approved
the uh the portion to come out of the
[9:18] barrier removal funds can I Mr chair
to today I just want to let people
[9:28] know that I have been over to that site
and I have been on that ramp that they
[9:35] currently have that ramp is so Ricky so
not nice for
[9:43] wheelchairs um that it needs to be done
so hopefully we can get it past and it
[9:49] will be done properly because all we see
is uh the wood can shut at any day so
[9:59] that
that and it's only two lamps so one
[10:05] person at time can only see part of the
G and the class has to be lowered and so
[10:14] if we raise if we put the creatures in
it'll be on a raised uh
[10:21] floor and um we won't have to lure of
the Arena glass
[10:31] yeah yeah the um the the people who
attend the um the Thunderbirds games
[10:39] that have Mobility devices that want to
watch the games have had a really poor
[10:44] time watching games and I think as a
result there aren't many people with
[10:49] Mobility devices that attend to watch
Thunderbird games anymore because it's
[10:53] just it's such a poor healing
experience so a long long overdue um and
[11:01] so the committee provided a letter of
support thank you chair for the letter
[11:07] um and that was in the
[11:14] attachments moving right along um D I
know that you Derek and Carol went out
[11:20] with a number of City staff to look at
some of more challenging intersections I
[11:25] drove past you when you were with Peter
Derek I was like there's Derek when
[11:30] you're at the Care community at uh GRE
Northern Northern Avenue I was turning
[11:35] to go pick up Aiden at the college I'm
like
[11:39] there but it made an impact because you
were noticed I felt like by being a
[11:44] group like that at that
intersection yes and you got recognition
[11:49] yes good yes there were lots of uh lots
of different people that recognized that
[11:55] there was something going on because
there was people with with um clipboards
[12:00] and pens and and yeah we you wore the
red y yeah wee a red accessible t-shirts
[12:09] yeah um and the goal of that day I I'll
introduce what happened that day and
[12:16] then Derek and Derek and Carol on the on
the phone uh can give us an overview
[12:21] from from their perspective how things
went but the goal for the day was for
[12:28] planning and engineering staff and
planning and Engineering attended with
[12:32] us and it was fabulous um for them to
understand what it's like to have
[12:38] various different kinds of disabilities
and using intersections and what are the
[12:43] gaps what are the challenges and how can
we do it better moving forward so it was
[12:49] an education opportunity for staff um
and I think it went very well it was
[12:54] very well received by staff um and the
problem
[12:59] the very best comment that we could have
received Carol you love this one I'm
[13:04] sure you you've heard me say it is that
it was an eye opening
[13:09] experience
so yeah isn't that great
[13:13] Carol it is it is
definitely all right so Derek if you
[13:18] want to put in your perspective and then
Carol if you wouldn't mind uh since
[13:23] you're able to join us also you can you
can give us from your point of view how
[13:28] things went
perfect furthermore I think it brings
[13:33] City staff and us closer we're not just
volunteer and staff we a bunch of people
[13:40] that care about the city yeah um we we
all care about the city this room so we
[13:47] all took time to look at these
problems that how how how fast does it
[13:54] take a person or how slow how fast is I
like the changes so it might not impact
[14:04] us right now but in
future with all the notes that we took
[14:11] and we do take a lot of
notes um the city's going to be able to
[14:17] have a better plan for the next uh
infrastructure you will say okay we got
[14:26] to do it this way so it's not
one side working
[14:32] with another side were joined it was a
community
[14:39] effort uh here in the suit and I don't
know if other
[14:46] municipalities did what we do what we
did by taking our s stock and saying
[14:55] okay this is where we have
problems for instance if I can just give
[15:01] you um
a place by um the
[15:10] uh the uh place there where we were at
the school at that
[15:17] Crossing where was steep that was old
Garden River Road and second line no it
[15:24] was uh the by the school by the by
oh St Mary's s yeah yes St Mary's and it
[15:35] was the uh
ReStore Habitat for Humanity oh Superior
[15:42] Heights yes that was
steep to go down
[15:50] that
that thing the curve cut the curve
[15:56] cut so the city about to see okay okay
how hard is it for wheelchair to line up
[16:03] and then see that the light
changes before we even get
[16:11] rolling yeah excellent um was that your
biggest teaching moment Derek I think so
[16:18] because they they need everybody needs
to know it takes a person in a
[16:23] wheelchair or with a walker can
crutches and we need a head start to get
[16:30] it to get going and to be
safe yeah so I think many of the times
[16:39] at the intersections something that
happened is um both Carol the way that
[16:44] that she navigates and she tell you a
little bit more about it Derek and
[16:48] myself before we've even left the curb
it has changed to walk to the flashing
[16:54] hand yeah um and I as much as you can
explain that to someone it's entirely
[17:01] different to watch someone experience
that so that was a that was a huge um a
[17:08] huge huge teaching moment for me that I
was I was very happy to be able to share
[17:15] that yeah anything else
d I think fun was had by
[17:21] all we got to know our community leaders
a little bit better that the
[17:29] they quite often people see just a
wheelchair and we're not just
[17:34] wheelchairs for people and we're we're a
group that are we a group of individuals
[17:41] that uh that are trying to make the city
OB
[17:47] accessible um to the city so it's not
going to be in my time but it's going to
[17:55] be years down Ro because the that we
took that they they'll take back and
[18:00] they'll put in their Master plans and so
things will be a little while yet but
[18:07] we're getting there and we're with all
all of us working together we can all
[18:15] have a better since St Marie so I would
like to thank Diane for allowing me to
[18:22] be a part of it um Carol I would like to
thank you as well because we open some
[18:29] eyes and we open even as we as you said
like you were driving down some of the
[18:36] streets that we we uh went to and it was
nice to see a group of us instead of
[18:44] just one going with all the staff and
trying to show them so thank you
[18:52] everyone very well said there thank you
thanks Carol
[19:00] okay um I think it was a a great
learning and a great teaching
[19:08] experience for
myself and for the Departments that
[19:16] really did not understand it until they
experienced it and for many years we've
[19:24] been trying to explain to people what it
is like with Street Crossing when you
[19:30] have Vision lck Derek explained exactly
how it is when you have a
[19:38] Mobility difficulties crossing the
street I explained it how it is how
[19:44] difficult it is with vision
loss yes their eyes were opened and
[19:49] that's all we kept on hearing they
couldn't believe how difficult it was
[19:55] they had absolutely no idea by the time
we were done they finally
[20:01] understood and that is the importance of
the
[20:05] aaac here in Sous St Marie that everyone
on the AAC totally
[20:11] 100% understands what it is like to have
a disability you live it you experience
[20:18] it you stick together and you help each
other and you support each other to help
[20:24] life be more easier for people with a
disability to be able to access whatever
[20:31] it is you need in order to live the best
life that you can and I am thankful that
[20:37] we have the AAC and support of the
people on our AAC here in s St Marie and
[20:43] hopefully now at the city planners the
city
[20:48] Engineers experiences uh I'm hoping that
now they will finally understand what it
[20:54] is like and maybe we'll start seeing
some changes to do the
[21:00] better I'm done that that's
my my little feel for you guys I'm
[21:06] really happy we did
it
[21:11] thanks ask who from City St wasend you
recall yes 100% um from planning it was
[21:20] Peter and uh Jonathan kirkl um he's our
active
[21:25] Transportation guy um from engineering
engineering there was Carl Magie and
[21:34] Dan as well Susan Hamilton Beach was
there and that was amazing to have her
[21:40] there as well because
she's looking from the top down with
[21:44] everybody else and now for her to have
um an eye
[21:49] towards what a a good Crossing can look
like or better yet what a poor crossing
[21:55] looks like yeah um you know she can help
to direct staff to to try to figure out
[22:02] things differently yeah I just add
something um I think it'll be important
[22:07] next time as well and I brought this up
is um when we have folks with um
[22:13] invisible barriers so I know for um a
lot of our folks um on the officing
[22:20] Spectrum or if there's another
intellectual disability Down syndrome as
[22:24] soon as that hand goes up they go back
to the corner and I know so it would be
[22:29] interesting to maybe from Thrive to get
like a um either through Amanda with use
[22:34] on the move or something like that to
get some perspective on difficulties of
[22:38] Crossing um I've also had that with some
International students because I I live
[22:44] on Queen so a lot of them are going to
the university or going to college and
[22:48] taking the bus and as soon as they see
that hand go they'll even go back too
[22:53] thinking that they have to go back and
i' I've brought that up before with um
[22:58] with Andy stomski that we don't have
enough time um so I think there's that
[23:03] other piece and I think um Carol just
to um kind of reiterate holding um the
[23:11] city accountable via the AAC we approved
a strategic plan at the last council
[23:17] meeting and one of the pillars is
removing barriers and being more
[23:21] accessible so um maybe at the next
agenda um our next meeting put it on the
[23:26] agenda that piece
and either have Tom come to speak about
[23:31] it or um even Brett laming as to what
they consider that to be in terms of
[23:37] planning and I think that um having our
perspective on AAC would be really
[23:45] important and thanks
Carol
[23:50] thanks sorry s go ahead um to add on to
Lisa's point I know another communities
[23:57] which I think we've all seen is they
have a countown so instead of a hand um
[24:02] it may be 20 seconds 19 what not whatnot
and I'm sure there's guidelines um for
[24:08] the national accessibility group to say
that hypothetically maybe it should be
[24:12] 45 seconds maybe it should be minute I
don't know but uh I would like to see
[24:18] staff look into um you know switching
the hand to you now have 30 seconds 29
[24:26] seconds so so the international student
or any Dall person with the hand will
[24:31] know okay I can continue on because I
still have X number seconds do you see
[24:35] what I'm saying yes it's my
understanding that would be implemented
[24:40] on Queen Street with the new as well as
I'm pretty sure I can't be 100% sure I
[24:48] think that was also going to be going in
on Great Northern Road and Northern a as
[24:54] well he implemented that back corner but
just countdown timers not changes to the
[25:01] actual structure of the of the what's
there right but they I believe they will
[25:06] be added in that area so hypothetically
could we um hypothetically pass a
[25:12] resolution to say but such and such Year
we hope that majority the city will have
[25:17] a count system or something like
that that would be or hypothetically we
[25:25] as a committee can continue on look at
more of the priority are of the city
[25:31] sure sure can I have that
repeated can I can I have you repeat
[25:37] that sure sorry um Diane was saying that
there are certain intersections that are
[25:44] taking priority where the intersection
is going to be somewhat redesigned for
[25:49] better
accessibility where the hand is going to
[25:53] be replaced with like a countdown system
to say hypothetically is 30 seconds 29
[26:00] seconds 28 seconds so forth so forth for
the amount of time you have to cross the
[26:06] intersection so I was saying
hypothetically can the accessibility
[26:11] committee work with City staff to say
that we as a committee prioritize other
[26:20] areas that need
attention that need to have
[26:24] intersections change with the countdown
system and and intersections altered to
[26:30] be more
helpful and maybe okay maybe we can do
[26:36] this over a period of five years I don't
know but I'm just throwing that idea out
[26:42] there okay and and sorry and if I can
add to that um what we're doing with the
[26:48] intersections is so important for
everyone in the community senior
[26:52] citizens anyone that have um some
difficulties that's all thank you
[26:59] okay but the problem with the new lights
are if you're want to tun to the
[27:07] speaker of it's A's wa right you're not
going to you're not going to know when
[27:14] to
go like you really have to look at you
[27:19] really have to listen for the please
wait and then you have the the alarms
[27:28] going off the um cuckoo and all that to
get
[27:34] across um what I'm hearing from other
people is that it should be where you
[27:41] can hear from somebody these
apartment is there not I don't know she
[27:48] too
here
[27:50] like I need the the volume needs to be
turned up
[27:56] on yes that was another challenge that
we all experienced quite well is um is
[28:04] not being able to hear the audible part
of the signal and the please weight part
[28:11] um was implemented in in two
intersections uh Great Northern
[28:15] Road uh no sorry old Garden River Road
second line and uh the Metro Northern a
[28:26] Crossing there br new technology with a
what's called a proximity sensor so you
[28:32] don't actually have to touch the button
all you have to do is wave your hand or
[28:36] move something in front of the sensor
and it will activate it um the signal
[28:44] says please wait as soon as it's
activated but most of us couldn't hear
[28:49] it even though we were sitting or
standing right beside it so that was a
[28:53] challenge and the volume as well and to
this it's still a problem yes it's still
[29:01] still hasn't been adjusted yes yeah but
that means that all four sides uh I
[29:08] haven't been able to check the other
ones because of the way it's set up
[29:13] right now I can only do one Lan maybe
two yeah yeah there's one part of the
[29:20] crossing D isn't able to use in in that
intersection but yes one of one of many
[29:27] uh different challenges and that was a
common complaint with the accessible
[29:32] pedestrian signals is that you couldn't
hear them and many other Crossings in
[29:38] Sous St Marie don't have an audible
component so it makes it especially
[29:43] challenging for um anyone with vision
loss to have a clue where the other side
[29:50] of the road is because some of our roads
aren't lined up exactly straight you
[29:55] know old Garden River Road second line
line is is one that's a diamond shape so
[30:00] you could be really messed up um trying
to cross an intersection like that
[30:06] without an audible
inment so many many many
[30:11] concerns I don't mean to throw our um
counselors like off
[30:19] but we have an by law after 11 11 now
what I heard
[30:28] from Peter is
that they've been getting told to turn
[30:36] the chps down but we need it up somebody
that F needs it turned up and it needs
[30:44] to go as loud as it goes so how do we
deal with the N bylaw people's Comfort
[30:52] level because they're sleeping and they
don't want to hear the cuckoo all night
[30:57] but
how do
[31:00] respect how do we respect um the bylaw
and the people that need
[31:09] it as far as I understand Derek the only
time the cuckoo and chirs comes on the
[31:15] audible sound comes on is when the
button is pushed or it's activated so if
[31:21] there's no one Crossing there at 11 or
12 or 2:00 in the morning which probably
[31:28] very few people
um the the signal shouldn't move going
[31:33] so I think that
alleviate okay I just no I just asked
[31:38] because like we're here we're trying to
honor
[31:43] a bylaw but it might turned out and
people might call it in and say Well it
[31:51] need be turn down I can't sleep so what
do we do as yeah I don't that shouldn't
[31:57] be and there's not like I think
especially where Care Community is going
[32:01] to be there could be like an apartment
that's a unit that's right there but as
[32:06] Diane said unless it's pressed it's not
going to make noise okay but some people
[32:11] might complain about it at 8:00 at night
so you never know right like
[32:15] it's ju just so that you guys are aware
we're we're saying as as a community it
[32:21] needs to be turned up but you might get
a call um counselor wise to say oh that
[32:30] trip goes on and on for hours which we
are allowed to use it :00 at night but
[32:40] 11:00 everybody should be in there
residences usually yeah I've never
[32:46] gotten a call about an audible signal
okay
[32:51] yeah I just
want okay well no I just wanted to let
[32:56] you know that
those turned
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[33:03] up if I could make a suggestion as kind
of um where proceed from here it sounds
[33:10] like you know Derek Carol and Di had a
great meeting with senior staff for
[33:16] those of the committee who aren't like
sure who everybody is Susan Hamilton
[33:20] Beach is the person who's in charge of
both engineering and public works and
[33:25] the two lieutenants I guess if that's
word I love that word you like that word
[33:30] I Know Carl will like it Dan will really
like it we're also there so the person
[33:34] who's in charge of engineering who
reports the Susan and the person who's
[33:37] in charged of Public Works who reports
the Susan we're also in attendant so you
[33:41] really have all the Deep think maybe not
deep thinkers but the people who
[33:46] certainly can make the right decisions
and who are responsible for these things
[33:50] and I'm just wondering as kind of a
followup and I I appreciate that this
[33:54] was like go out and see how what's
happening here let's kind of have this
[33:57] is a bit of learning experience for
everybody but I'm wondering if if B if
[34:02] you could just follow up with Susan and
identify like some of the concerns that
[34:08] we have and I I think it would be great
to invite Susan to a future meeting yeah
[34:13] I mean I thought the idea let's have Tom
come to a meeting and talk about our
[34:16] strategic planning great but let's have
Susan Susan come to this meeting and she
[34:21] wants to bring Dan and and and Carl fine
you know that's great but if like we're
[34:27] here yeah I think dark has put it really
well you know we're all here to work
[34:31] together we're not here to Ambush
anybody these are our concerns just
[34:34] let's remind them that they are
important to us we can improve things
[34:39] and can we have a discussion about the
best way to do
[34:42] this that makes sense excellent fair
enough very okay um are we ready to move
[34:51] on because before we move on to the last
two items under uh new business
[34:58] I think it'd be worth well to bring the
the committee up to speed on what we
[35:01] were talking about with the
kayak do down at at the B Marina yes did
[35:09] you just take a minute sure um so as you
know the uh the kayak dog at the Bel new
[35:17] Marina um we were successful in getting
some funds for the updates the paving
[35:24] for that area has been done it was done
just last week so there is now a paved
[35:30] Corner which will turn into two
accessible parking spots with signage
[35:35] and access aisle and the paved path to
the kayak dock is now there and it looks
[35:42] fabulous absolutely fabulous the next
part will be uh railings on the ramping
[35:51] that goes to the
dock uh as well as remediating a 3-in
[35:56] step that exists from the from the rant
down to the dog so that will be
[36:01] addressed um the grant is supposed to be
finished at the end of November November
[36:08] 25th um and I spoke with the gentleman
who's likely to be doing the work and he
[36:14] says that shouldn't be a problem so keep
you posted any other
[36:20] news and that is also the access that
goes out to the Su naturalists or
[36:26] whoever built it doing area at that
point as well right so there's there's
[36:30] like there's a walkway that need needs
to
[36:33] Beed yes yes yes there is the walkway
that goes that was an existing paved
[36:39] Pathway to The Zo naturalist viewing
platform um and the part that was just
[36:45] added very dark black ash um goes from
because there's a slope down to the to
[36:54] the naturalist viewing area and then pop
kind of does a switch back to the dog so
[37:00] that it's a gentle nice gentle uh grade
there's no no steep pitches or
[37:07] anything yeah keep you
[37:12] posted yeah okay sorry we just thought
we that would be interesting for people
[37:17] to know uh snow
removal yeah um every year Public Works
[37:23] takes um suggestions or requests for for
snow removal areas for instance a lot of
[37:31] Street I shouldn't say a lot of streets
some residential areas have sidewalks on
[37:35] both sides but only one sidewalk is
cloud um they try to be efficient with
[37:41] their snow removal um priorities so if
anyone has any uh areas due to
[37:49] accessibility disability that requires
it become a priority to please let me
[37:55] know but just keep in mind has to be
something to do with
[38:00] accessibility so let me know as soon
as go ahead Carol I do have a I do have
[38:07] a place
Diane okay it's popular
[38:12] Avenue
YCA popular
[38:16] Avenue okay
YMCA oh good one Carol I've gotten calls
[38:23] about the um laundry mat to in Montery
Gardens That
[38:28] Sidewalk what is that so there's um a
sort of like a old strip wall and
[38:35] there's a laundry M there that sidewalk
being
[38:38] done because people are coming down from
Housing Court okay and going down and
[38:43] accessing um I'll get the street for you
okay I'm totally it's not Brian it's um
[38:48] right behind the old war houses well
it's all it's all in the it's all the
[38:52] war time it's all La Gardens I think
it's current Drive I think that's
[38:57] current Drive yeah yeah it's my old
neighborhood I should know I used to
[39:01] ride my bike to Charlie
confection um yeah righte yeah you're
[39:07] not that old
yeah but there so people are going from
[39:14] Housing Court which is behind the Y like
in that popular area and then smil and
[39:19] then going down but I'll give you the
name of the street okay perfect
[39:24] Civ that's a really good yeah go ahead
um actually ironically I was talking to
[39:29] Susan Hamilton Beach and I was she say
October 3 ver is the absolute deadline
[39:35] as we probably know right and that's why
I I kind of need it now or ASAP yeah yes
[39:42] um can you put Robin Street
[39:47] on okay is there anything specific about
Robin Street um there's well basically
[39:54] there's five senior citizens that live
on that street I I don't know if that
[39:58] qualifies but I just want okay five
seniors and so is it the North Side the
[40:04] South Side East West is it is it's like
a horseshoe okay and so when you look at
[40:10] the map of how it works it's very
obvious it's like
[40:15] AE school elementary school yeah what
what can you do about getting it done
[40:22] properly like Pine Street work through
basic is on the hill that whole whole
[40:27] area the guy just bounces over up down
these great big hunks in front of the
[40:33] bus where the bus stop is um a lot of
those apartments have students and
[40:40] they're hopping
over whatever
[40:43] icebergs and um but there's a lot of
seniors there too trying to hike their
[40:49] groceries over these pumps and bums and
it's all because the the the person
[40:55] that's doing it just goes like about out
of hell and doesn't care and leaves this
[41:00] deep and then this up here he's got it
here it's a mess and then it freezes
[41:08] then it's solid
IED it is
[41:14] popular Ginger and wash and
dryers maybe to dian's point when if
[41:21] Susan does come to one of our future
meetings that could be addressed with
[41:25] her as well
[41:29] yeah like if the the person I they're in
a hurry
[41:34] obviously and they could put the pl down
a little
[41:40] bit this is a sidewalk PL
yeah and then to cross the street to
[41:47] catch the bus you sometimes this
[41:53] high no
ice ice
[42:00] yes it is a challenge for um the
sidewalk snow cloud folks a lot will
[42:06] depend upon the the condition of the
sidewalk underneath Pine Street I don't
[42:11] really know how rough it is but if if
you know there's sidewalks that add
[42:16] uneven and when they go over an uneven
sidewalk can quite a quite a a pile of
[42:22] snow um but we
can last year they did great
[42:30] but yes I thought it was a bonus here it
[42:37] was um I do have one more place I want
to
[42:42] mention only because there's been some
people that have mentioned this to me
[42:47] and they're really not sure who it is
that's in charge of this okay so the
[42:52] road that is where the bus stop is where
Walmart is is the road that goes to
[42:59] penos okay there's a bus stop and the
bus drivers have a hard time going
[43:05] around that corner because the road is
not
[43:08] plowed and people have a hard time
getting to the bus stop because the
[43:12] sidewalks not ploud now um I Heard a
couple of different stories um because
[43:19] some of the drivers have told me that
it's not city property that it's
[43:23] Walmart's
responsibility to the road and the
[43:27] sidewalk there but what's the real story
on that because it's a mess in the
[43:32] winter time people are having a hard
time walking and the drivers are having
[43:36] a hard time driving the
bus if it's okay I'll answer that
[43:39] question that that is Walmart uh and
when we uh did the lights where penos
[43:45] are now we the city actually was going
to go in and do some work on Walmart's
[43:50] property kind of just to help them move
things along and we were advised by
[43:54] Walmart's lawyers that that cannot
happen that they have to they have to
[43:58] hire contractors and that's one of the
reason that job was delayed because
[44:02] everybody has to be under contract with
Walmart to work on Walmart property so
[44:06] the city even though we said we were
going to go inad can't and fixing things
[44:11] up for them that didn't happen now they
do
[44:16] um you know they are responsive public
complaints so I I think there's probably
[44:23] a an opportunity to do something there
but we have to kind of wait until
[44:28] there's a problem and
[44:33] then
okay it's Walmart's property the
[44:39] city and and I think if the problem one
of the biggest problems is with the
[44:45] transit buses being able to to to get
around because of of snow I think
[44:52] perhaps a a a concern should come from
transit to Walmart on that uh if there's
[45:00] pedestrians they should also be that are
having trouble they should also be
[45:05] complaining to Walmart on it that is an
excellent idea have trans Transit coming
[45:12] yeah because we
[45:16] yeah okay because this was Transit
drivers that were telling me this and I
[45:21] went into Walmart
myself and asked them
[45:27] and they told me yeah they're
responsible for
[45:30] it so I mean
[45:35] even it's very difficult to uh you know
if they don't do
[45:40] it it's anyway it was just something
that was brought to my attention a few
[45:47] times no I think that's a really good
point girl Walmart does build business
[45:51] they can afford to you know C the
sidewalk yeah yeah
[46:00] um okay any other comments on snow
removal if you think of anything feel
[46:06] free to contact Dian because uh you know
as SRA pointed out we have a a limited
[46:11] amount of time to get something into
public works on
[46:17] this um
Diane chair um just note on on like
[46:27] depends what uh time day it is um if
it's um later on in the
[46:36] afternoon around the Metro but on the
where the point wash used to
[46:45] be yeah in that
section sometimes the plow would it
[46:50] comes by it
leaves a trail of snow so when somebody
[46:56] has to
stop try to
[46:59] reach try to line up it
doesn't I I go inside
[47:06] down with my chair I used go inside a
lot I don't go very often but people are
[47:14] trying to get
across to Metro
[47:19] and it's not easy if they have to step
over a paint or whatever so we
[47:27] try to put that on prity list there's a
lot of seniors disa that
[47:35] go good point yeah
[47:40] okay anything
else um I have one bus
[47:45] shelter um
concern and it is the bus
[47:51] shelter where the old Safeway building
used to be on great Norther um
[47:57] I think the call center was there for a
while so um the the windows yeah the
[48:05] glass on that shelter I think there's
only one pain of glass left on it so the
[48:10] bus shelter when you're in it there's no
protection from the rain or wind at all
[48:16] now so I'm wondering if they're planning
on replacing the broken glass that would
[48:21] in
there how long has that been there Carol
[48:28] what was that how long has has the has
the glass been broken in
[48:33] there well the glass is missing like
there's not broken pieces there it's
[48:37] missing so it's been a
while yeah it's been a while like like
[48:44] months like a year oh yeah yeah oh no I
don't think it's been that long it's
[48:50] been uh been a few months
[48:55] yeah been all summer
anyway we'll bring that up with Transit
[49:01] um because they you know they should be
able to replace that those glass
[49:08] that yeah because the angle that the
shelters on you've got no protection at
[49:15] all got
[49:19] it
[49:23] okay moving right along we're changing
our G meeting we are um January 8th
[49:31] January 6th is when um Everybody the the
Christmas holidays is over and the eth
[49:37] is two days later so um I'm requesting
to move or delay our January meeting
[49:45] until January
15 so um it'll be noted in the minutes
[49:52] of course but if everybody can maybe
Mark that on their calendar um um and
[49:58] I'll also um you know when I send out
the agendas we we'll be talking about
[50:05] that in December about our next meeting
in
[50:08] January but if you can take a look at
your calendars and Mark that down that'
[50:13] be great 15
[50:23] 15 oh ahe okay
I do a lot of talking at these meetings
[50:29] my goodness I guess it's because I'm
relaying a lot of information no it's
[50:33] your most interesting person I hardly
think that's
[50:38] true um we're doing a a public
consultation openhouse through the
[50:45] accessibility legislation there is a
requirement for the city to do at least
[50:51] one openhouse public consultation so
that's going to be on October 30th from
[50:59] 3: to 6:00 p.m. at the accessibility
Center Transit will be there and Parks
[51:06] will be there and I will be there um so
it is an opportunity for people to give
[51:12] a feedback on any accessibility issues
any barriers they've encountered in the
[51:18] community uh in particular there are
some things that the city must consult
[51:23] with the public on uh so one of them is
the accessibility plan and the
[51:28] effectiveness of the accessibility plan
um another one say for instance is bus
[51:36] stops and shelters that uh Transit must
consult on um Parks is supposed to be
[51:43] Consulting on uh the design of uh
playgrounds and playground
[51:49] equipment um so there are some
requirements so there will be some some
[51:53] specific questions
[51:58] and thanks Sam
sorry so there will be some specific
[52:03] things that we're looking for feedback
on but we also accept feedback from the
[52:08] community on anything accessibility and
and barrier related can
[52:12] [Music]
[52:18] we where is the accessibility Center
that's where we always have our meetings
[52:26] yes
[52:29] yes and I'm sure since
like pass along if you wanted some
[52:35] posters or something put up like some
displays yes they they have people who
[52:41] are very competent doing those things
that would be
[52:47] great
[Music]
[52:50] I because certain kid's car is finally
ready his first car picked up o pretty
[52:57] exciting I don't know I think it's more
exciting for lose Automotive
[53:01] [Music]
it's we have the date and time again
[53:06] please October
30th 3 to 6: p.m.
[53:22] [Music]
[53:27] um so we move to Old
business yes can I say Carol that I
[53:34] really appreciated I think everyone did
really appreciated your comments at the
[53:38] last meeting it has not fallen on De
ears um and I'm going to turn this over
[53:44] to Diane to kind of explain where we're
at on this yeah so okay thank you at our
[53:50] last meeting uh Carol did a uh an
impromptu well it was impromptu CH it
[53:56] wasn't to her she was well prepared for
it um did a presentation on some of the
[54:01] barriers that she's encountered and how
it just seems like there's no progress
[54:08] on it on on some of them anyways um and
she had a lot of questions and any
[54:13] concerns um so I've I've spoken with
Peter on this like how do we address
[54:20] this so I will be Consulting with the
city staff that are are responsible for
[54:26] the items that that Carol brought
forward and I'll be bringing um uh
[54:32] feedback or or responses from their
departments to the committee at the next
[54:37] meeting so Carol when you're there in
person we'll we'll have uh we'll have
[54:42] feedback for you on on all of your
concerns
[54:46] okay great thank you no
[54:52] problem did you want to talk about our
video remote interpreter
[54:56] yes this is so exciting this has been in
the works for I don't know like five
[55:01] years maybe even more I think it was
started before Co um so the video remote
[55:07] interpreter for the VRI Service uh
tomorrow morning at 10:00 I'll be at the
[55:15] Civic Center lobby we've got the
equipment it's been purchased and ready
[55:21] to go um and we'll be doing a test with
VRI our IT staff will be there as well
[55:29] um and then once we've done the test and
we know everything is up and running and
[55:35] we've got our all of our account
information uh set to go that will go
[55:41] live and be available for anyone for any
Department in uh in the Civic Center as
[55:48] the trial for someone who is De and
requires ASL interpreter it's an ASL not
[55:55] quite on demand because it's not push
the button and someone's there it might
[56:00] be a couple of minutes before someone is
available um but it'll be a a new
[56:05] customer service experience for citizens
to St marine and then depending upon how
[56:13] that's received if and how often it's
used we'd like to get roll that out to
[56:19] various different customer service areas
within the corporation so tomorrow
[56:24] morning we'll be
yes uh Dian before you go further Could
[56:30] you um uh say what the acronyms are for
the people that don't know yes I I did
[56:38] say that Carol and I'm I'm sorry if it
didn't come out clear so it's it's okay
[56:44] yeah the service is
V that's the acronym and it stands for
[56:51] video remote
interpreter okay can hear it now okay
[56:58] yes and um the passionate covered that
very nicely as well did they clear if
[57:05] you still have to book an appointment in
order to have that V service no no if
[57:12] you were doing um a meeting or something
if we were doing a meeting here and we
[57:18] want a a remote interpreter yes that
would be best quit it is for on demand
[57:25] short interactions customer service
interactions not so much for meetings
[57:31] it's a you know a five minute
conversation um can you tell me where I
[57:37] find a book on do it yourself house
renovations um or how much does it cost
[57:45] to go for a swim at the pool it's meant
for those short things so it may not be
[57:52] instant because they do have a bank of
interpreters ASL
[57:56] interpreters um across I think
Canada um and it may take a little while
[58:02] to find one that's that's available has
the green light and and they can
[58:07] dispatch that person so very excited
about
[58:12] that yeah yeah so we'll try that
tomorrow morning and then at the next
[58:18] meeting uh hopefully we we will have
launched it it will have gone live and
[58:25] uh I can let you know that
[58:32] works this is something that um or
actually I don't know if this is a
[58:37] question for Carrie or Diane so is this
something that someone with vision loss
[58:44] can feel as you are explaining it so we
know how it
[58:50] works if you were live at the Civic
Center
[58:57] with
us you would be able to feel
[59:01] it but okay I I can describe what the
equipment looks like so it's an
[59:10] iPad
that that will be on a stand it'll be on
[59:15] a movable stand so that it can go to
various different departments in the
[59:20] corporation and it will be powered by a
USB device because there isn't very
[59:27] reliable wifi in in the Civic Center so
we're actually buying a data package
[59:33] with USP device USB device so that it
can go to any Department anywhere in the
[59:40] Civic Center I guess ideally it could go
anywhere um and if someone who is De
[59:47] uppercase D de uses uh American Sign
Language
[59:53] interpreter uh would present at customer
service
[59:57] the iPad with VRI will be sitting there
there will be a press release hopefully
[1:00:04] you know people who are deaf will will
know that it's available but it will be
[1:00:08] sitting there and it'll there'll be a
sign that says VRI and they just have to
[1:00:14] motion that they need
VRI and then the receptionist will then
[1:00:20] be able to activate it to call an ASL
interpreter
[1:00:26] and the person who is deck will be
looking at the iPad and will sign to the
[1:00:32] iPad the question the comment the
concern uh that they're there for and
[1:00:38] then the ASL interpreter on the iPad
will then speak the question comment or
[1:00:46] concern to the recept
receptionist and then the receptionist
[1:00:52] can answer and the ASL will then be able
to relay that via uh ASL to the person
[1:01:01] who is dead so it's a means of of
communication and and thank you for uh
[1:01:07] asking that question because not
everybody would have a clue what video
[1:01:14] remote interpreter
meant right just so that I understand
[1:01:19] the corly though so for someone to use
this they have to come into the building
[1:01:25] yes yes it is meant for a personto
person customer service
[1:01:32] experience video to person
yes because it is different for the duck
[1:01:38] Community to to speak to a live person
vers the iPad it does prevent some it
[1:01:45] does provide some
barriers being um using an interpreter
[1:01:50] on an iPad however that is the way that
the world is going unfortunately not
[1:01:55] really
um fully providing the accessible
[1:01:59] accessibility needs of the person that
is De but that um it's another
[1:02:03] alternative to not having a live
interpreter I should know the answer to
[1:02:08] this but I don't so if someone's sitting
at home and they say I have a question
[1:02:13] for you know about a building permit I
need to talk to somebody in the
[1:02:19] building how does that work like how how
do they do they have to come down to
[1:02:24] City Hall basically so before it would
have been a TTY yeah most do not use a
[1:02:30] TTY any longer they just use their
phones and text which is great so they
[1:02:35] can text to agencies or places that can
text back but that's not everybody
[1:02:41] either so um email is another form of
asking questions as
[1:02:47] well or an interpreter what about Belle
really yeah you can use Belle Rel that's
[1:02:55] um for when
the person is using a TTY and the other
[1:02:58] person on the other end does not have a
TTY it's just that most most people are
[1:03:03] not using the
[1:03:07] T
[1:03:10] in actual
interpreters there are
[1:03:16] two
official um ASL interpreters one works
[1:03:21] for CHS one is a freelance okay I don't
know if or any other car do you know no
[1:03:28] that's that's correct okay
hypothetically if someone knows that
[1:03:32] they want to go down to City Hall in the
future could they get City Hall to book
[1:03:37] one of these interpreters to me them for
a special meeting absolutely okay
[1:03:43] absolutely and um I'm getting into the
weeds but is that part of the training
[1:03:48] manual for sta
City orientation it will be
[1:03:56] this iPad yes we'll do the trial the
test tomorrow yeah and then from there
[1:04:03] the reception staff will be trained on
its use okay and then from there when
[1:04:08] someone comes down to use the equipment
with someone who is De because maybe
[1:04:13] they showed up in person and want to
talk about a building permit um the
[1:04:18] receptionist will then be able to say to
Carl or to Magie this is how you use it
[1:04:26] and we'll set it up in whatever whatever
area works for you okay yes so then will
[1:04:32] they be using well what what are they
using or or what should we be using
[1:04:36] going forward for meetings even such as
this
[1:04:39] that's being Live on YouTube but we
don't have interpreter we don't have an
[1:04:47] interpreter because our sound has been
so terrible there's no
[1:04:52] sound but The Interpreter any
interpreter live though we could do live
[1:05:00] I don't think that's effective though to
communicate to people at home who may be
[1:05:06] watching from home or who want to watch
in the future because if you look on the
[1:05:12] camera right now our view is a little
bit different but it may not be able to
[1:05:18] effectively capture because the ASL
interpreter is going to be one of many
[1:05:24] in the room yeah um I think and I'm not
positive about this I think the most
[1:05:30] effective way to use ASL is on
Zoom where their um their ASL
[1:05:39] interpretation can be pegged so that
it's a larger View and then the rest of
[1:05:44] us are smaller because what we're doing
doesn't matter as much because we've got
[1:05:49] the verbal communication but for people
who use the AFL they need to be able to
[1:05:54] see it a little bit larger
larer once we have our sound worked out
[1:06:00] and I'm not sure how this is really
going
[1:06:03] to how this is really going to sound
when we hear the recording it's still a
[1:06:08] bit
echy once we've got that then I would
[1:06:13] love to get ASL back for regular
meetings
[1:06:21] yes okay any other questions comments
thoughts
[1:06:28] well if that's the case uh and it says
that we have no s plan subcommittee
[1:06:35] report
but
[1:06:39] but you question okay I was gonna say
that Derek Diane and myself went out to
[1:06:46] St CL field yes Sinclair field Sinclair
field field it wasn't field it's
[1:06:53] Sinclair yard
yard
[1:06:59] okay yeah you know what this is tough so
anyways we had a good old time we met
[1:07:08] with this nice person
[1:07:14] um uh Pat and who was his other new was
the elderly gentl
[1:07:23] yes who was the
know of
[1:07:30] the okay um so any we went out there and
we looked at the uh St clear
[1:07:39] Park s
yard well and I
[1:07:49] call anyways um we sat and we talked
about the
[1:07:54] washroom and what they need to do with
the
[1:07:58] washroom and it was pretty neat to
actually see that they were thinking of
[1:08:06] doing different fields but we have to
the
[1:08:09] washrooms uh or they have to but with
our
[1:08:13] help uh they have
to get the whe uh wash wheelchair
[1:08:21] accessible before move to the next part
correctly from the do though is that the
[1:08:28] truth or is am
I just dreaming
[1:08:33] that no you you've got it basically yeah
yeah they're they're they're working at
[1:08:40] Bas basically that I think it's a
two-part program the first part and
[1:08:44] their top priority is to get the
accessible washroom bu and I I was
[1:08:49] astounded by how big the building was I
mean they certainly have lots of room in
[1:08:53] there yeah yeah so they're they're
hoping to receive a grant on that we had
[1:09:01] committed to $6,000
$6,000 um is that by Council it was it
[1:09:10] was perfect so it it's sitting there in
in a holding pattern waiting for their
[1:09:16] project to
proceed and they really see putting the
[1:09:20] accessible washrooms in as as the first
step and probably right if they can't do
[1:09:26] that why bother to move ahead but the
game plan is I'm sorry dere I just kind
[1:09:30] of jumped in here no problem the game
plan has eventually been put in an asur
[1:09:36] field and that is the accessible field
and they have done it elsewhere uh
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[1:09:46] bbody
field which just makes it work for my
[1:09:53] accessibility view point there so many
other go
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[1:10:04] ahead no no I think I think it was it
was a very good t tour both with graham
[1:10:12] with um with Pat Graham is the historian
of the Su Miner baseball he knows
[1:10:19] everything absolutely
everything um and Pat is the
[1:10:26] uh somewhat newly retired Enthusiast for
uh sum
[1:10:32] baseball knows everything BR built
everything new construction
[1:10:39] was so he's he
has has an amazing network of friends
[1:10:45] where he calls and things happen it's a
great system only can do that and can I
[1:10:52] make a comment of that all
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[1:10:57] oh my God that is the most wonderful
thing to see when you go out there you
[1:11:02] see a big gigantic
baseball yes and I think it's got the
[1:11:08] Canadian record for the largest baseball
in Canada yes
[1:11:14] yes so anybody at home go
on said it's in Google Earth that's how
[1:11:24] popular
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and it was
[1:11:31] do it was actually for something else
and the guy said well rather than throw
[1:11:36] this out I give to gra his guys you know
sand it all down round it all out put an
[1:11:43] anchor on the thing pain it and that's
how
[1:11:48] it so that's
very
[1:11:53] um before we Jour sorry yes s go ahead
sorry you have to remind me three times
[1:12:01] know
that okay question um for Diane Diane um
[1:12:09] I'm sure I know the answer but want
confirm the Emergency Management plan
[1:12:13] for the
city I know that you've been part of
[1:12:17] that right yes yes in in a in a couple
of different ways um one of the things
[1:12:24] that will be done in the future that
came about as a result of uh Co
[1:12:30] shutdowns with literally everything is
that um people who are deaf and rely on
[1:12:37] other means of of communication were cut
off from the world um they they had a
[1:12:43] very difficult time receiving
information about Co and
[1:12:48] afterwards um one of the takeways from
that is that when any emergency
[1:12:54] information comes out from the city is
that ASL will be used and it will be
[1:13:01] part of a video like you see quite often
the States you see that through
[1:13:06] Emergency Management but there will be
an ASL interpreter available as well to
[1:13:12] be able to provide emergency
information um and I think Lauren and I
[1:13:19] have done some meetings with the death
community and Lauren has taken away some
[1:13:25] information from those
meetings and she's also got another task
[1:13:31] riew going on which I missed the first
one because I think I was away for
[1:13:35] something we had a meeting yesterday
excellent and so the emergency group got
[1:13:41] together and U she updated us on the
emergency plan then it got me thinking
[1:13:48] that gave examples such as if the
electricity went out and a large portion
[1:13:53] of people had to evacuated or moved you
know you CR Hospital could be or used or
[1:14:00] other centers so then I was thinking if
a large population had to be moved
[1:14:05] elsewhere is there a designated area in
Su St Marine that is conducive to those
[1:14:12] with accessibility disabilities like
should we have a
[1:14:16] designated like a
mustard you know I mean yeah I think I
[1:14:22] think most Emergency Man plans are a
little bit fluid it depends upon what
[1:14:28] the emergency is and who it affects um I
know in the past I don't know if if it
[1:14:35] is still part of the plan I suspect it
is is John rhs is is one of the
[1:14:40] emergency centers because there's a
large large Gathering space capacity
[1:14:46] there um I think that is also capacity
that Lauren is trying to build by um by
[1:14:55] coordinating with who should be involved
who are contact for you know people with
[1:15:02] mental health who are contacts for um
people with Mobility disabilities who
[1:15:08] are contacts for you know any other
vulnerable population in the city and I
[1:15:14] think that is a new piece that is being
worked on okay um and obviously you're
[1:15:20] part of all that that's that's all I
want to know yeah yeah it's excellent
[1:15:24] It's it's a great collaboration and it's
it's something that's very important has
[1:15:29] to
happen thank
[1:15:32] you just before we move on does anyone
have any comments uh on this using this
[1:15:39] room uh Dan is going to go back and look
at the look at the tape because then
[1:15:44] we'll get a better sense as how's the
video and audio working you know we'll
[1:15:49] be able to tell from that but you know
good bad IND
[1:16:03] that's usually good is that good all
right
[1:16:07] does it feel St it feels very stag
[1:16:15] ande start sweating a
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[1:16:20] lot you can feel the air moving around
airc
[1:16:26] thought there what if we were to get a
computer that Dian can
[1:16:31] use rather than
personal or is that a city it is a city
[1:16:37] laptop okay can you get the information
that you need to do a live stream so you
[1:16:44] don't have to go through we went for
today absolutely what I'll have to do is
[1:16:50] bring my laptop to City Hall and uh have
Zoe in the same room with me and we'll
[1:16:58] it's just it's a security thing so that
nobody abuses it's an extra piece of
[1:17:04] security done it once know once you get
it all up go exactly once we've done it
[1:17:13] once together in the same
room it it I don't think it's going to
[1:17:18] be a security issue because it wasn't a
security issue uh on my on my desktop
[1:17:24] from the office now um what about these
um overhead projectors like what we have
[1:17:33] to use
there um can you explain that a little
[1:17:40] bit more D I'm not sure what you need
there's a projector up there yeah if we
[1:17:46] were to access them what do we need to
[1:17:50] do exactly what we did this time
which is we come and and they set it up
[1:17:59] for us I'm still not quite following
what you need like what like for you to
[1:18:07] to do you have like how long to set up
for that probably about a half an hour
[1:18:16] we had to bring our owl from the office
it was here with us earlier they they
[1:18:21] grabbed the owl from our from our office
and they set it up for us and now that
[1:18:28] I've seen it done once you know the
gentleman here who help set up the
[1:18:33] tables and such can help me set up
everything else it's it's it's not a big
[1:18:39] deal at
[1:18:42] all how do you find the space
here I find the space
[1:18:48] okay but we can't lock that
door because if some
[1:18:55] come in and they're part of all you're
heing
[1:19:02] is door's locked yeah I think it's it's
it's locked from the outside this door
[1:19:08] here is not locked and it's only to come
back in yes we can we can have that
[1:19:16] unlocked for future meetings here okay
so first we go live we're going to have
[1:19:23] somebody talking we're live
we yeah yeah we can have that
[1:19:30] unlocked other thoughts do the benefits
outweigh the amount of extra work it
[1:19:35] takes you
[1:19:38] D it will depend upon the quality right
I can tell you the the visual quality of
[1:19:46] the meetings isn't as good because it's
a projector rather than um the
[1:19:51] television but maybe that will look
different on the recording I'm hoping
[1:19:56] the sound is better and if it is then
we're ready to have an ASL interpreter
[1:20:02] join us again for for meetings what
what's the difference if we're using the
[1:20:08] same um amplifier and to me the room is
bigger which would make the Acoustics
[1:20:14] worse so I'm just wondering why it's
better here or why it might be better
[1:20:19] here with the same device I think part
of it is this wall here
[1:20:25] has something that softens that whole
wall the the the pull down things it
[1:20:31] also mentioned that this space right
above us here is just dropped down a
[1:20:36] little bit so it it just gives a
different yeah different
[1:20:42] acoustic feel to it otherwise the room
is very empty empty and I I still find
[1:20:48] it to be eoy a little bit um so I don't
know what the sound is going to be the
[1:20:55] captioning on the video looks like it's
fairly
[1:20:59] accurate um but we'll see what the sound
is like is it better if the source is
[1:21:05] closer
to people speaking because we can even
[1:21:10] close in just slightly and bring that
and there's actually another one there's
[1:21:16] two the ows are designed to work as a
pair they only have one here but like we
[1:21:21] use this system of own Public Health as
well and it's exactly the same I it's
[1:21:27] BR and they a couple of feet AP about
this far apart right it works great so
[1:21:33] that's and we we have the second one as
well the it guys just been bringing yeah
[1:21:38] but I agree like the issue is this is I
I like this room it's a big room it's a
[1:21:43] little less convenient for some people
distance wise traveling I get that but
[1:21:48] the sound I think I like that b p
[1:21:55] those chairs at the other place for me
is brutal barely make it through the the
[1:22:01] last 15 20 minutes it's like oh my
goodness Diana it's okay time G bring a
[1:22:08] pillow with
it deal I can make arrangements to get
[1:22:13] something else but these are you know
softer they give a bit they're not like
[1:22:17] that hard plastic for Year yes
yes good point I never even thought
[1:22:25] that um just that when you come into an
entrance way there is some
[1:22:32] plants that are right inside our
actuators are
[1:22:40] there there oh
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[1:22:43] okay okay is it
blocking okay I'll
[1:22:50] uh yeah no
[1:23:04] other
thoughts if none can we have a motion to
[1:23:08] return
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