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» Hit red and you're live.
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» Is this how we talk?

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That's what it that's really
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But that neighborhood is

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after

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Yeah, but it's really

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anyway
agreement

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to be successful. And that's what the
money's for.

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» A little bit of a good tick off.

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» I don't think he's okay.

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Okay, that was the question, right?

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in our HOA is doing a lot of legal
beagle stuff. So, it's

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» Yeah. No,
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» Sorry, I didn't I have a table full.
everybody around the table. We have the

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six, seven, eight year old and all the
parents and everything in my house. So,

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I had to hustle.
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» And that's pretty cool. I love it. So,

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Usually I have Oh, I want to do I have
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» Bernie,
>> Dennis, welcome.

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» I mean,

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I'm not missing

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It's just been a busy day.
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» Okay, it is six o'clock.
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» Okay.
>> Okay. It's 6 o'clock. So, I'll call this

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Wednesday, March 4th, 2026,
uh, board of trustee studies session to

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order, and the clerk call the role.
President Brown

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» here.
>> Trustees Donaldson

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» here.
>> Dyra

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Camper
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» Mangan
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» Seaner
faick

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» Okay. Um
I'm just going to skip ahead. If people

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haven't noticed, we have a new um mic
system here that you have to push

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in order to be heard. I guess red is
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so you have to take it off and then blue
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Just so everybody's aware.

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Okay, we'll move on to public comment.
Uh if anybody has any comment uh please

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step up to the mic. You'll have five
minutes. I'll let you know if you go

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over five minutes. But uh anybody have
any comments.

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Please uh state your name for the clerk
so she can put it down in the minutes.

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» Good evening. My name is Emily Close.
I'm a longtime resident of Champagne and

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I'm here to ask you to proceed
thoughtfully with the dockless bike

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sharing program. Champagne has had this
program since I believe 2019.

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And I have lived in Champagne for 32
years. And I've noticed that these

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wheelbikes, these ebikes are left
everywhere, often to the detriment of

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pedestrians who are trying to walk
safely on the sidewalks, joggers,

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runners, dog walkers, regular old pedal
bicyclists, older people or infirmed

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people using wheelchairs, canes, or
walkers. Visually impaired people.

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Little kids that play on sidewalks.
People just out for a stroll. People

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walking to work. people pushing a baby
carriage. All of us deserve to safely

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use the infrastructure of our towns.
That safety is compromised when ebikes

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are abandoned on sidewalks and left for
us to trip over. Second, these vehicles

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are a silent danger. You can't hear them
when they come up behind you and try to

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run you off the sidewalk. A VOE bike is
a motorized vehicle with a throttle.

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They're not cute little toys for
children to ride. They're more like

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motorcycles, so they can go fast, and
you can't see them at night, and you

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certainly can't see them or hear them
when they're weaving through traffic.

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Third, if you bring 250 VE bikes into
Seavoi, how are you going to monitor the

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program? Champagne does not, in my
experience, adequately monitor their

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program. For example, the Champagne
Planning Department has told me

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repeatedly over the years to call VO
with my concerns about safety.

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Well, the company is less than helpful.
The CSRs who answer the phones are many

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states away, California, Utah. No one
who answers the phones is local. So

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those reps know nothing about Seavoi,
Champagne, or Illinois for that matter.

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and supervisors are never available.
BO's stated MO is for the CSR to send an

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email to someone locally who might be
dispatched to pick up the errant bike to

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recirculate it or the bike might sit
there indefinitely blocking the sidewalk

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or street due to VO's apparent staff
shortage. In my experience,

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accountability from VO to the town's
people and the communities they serve is

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scant. Fourth, the business model of VO
is archaic. Like Blanch Dubois, Veale

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relies on the kindness of strangers.
Strangers like Joe and Jane Citizen are

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asked to call Veo at 8558362256

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and report its abandoned and compromised
ebikes so they can be picked up and

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recirculated because VO just doesn't
keep track of its own vehicles. Over the

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years, I've seen VOE bikes and champagne
and Urbana turned upside down and

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abandoned in private yards and public
parks, strewn across sidewalks, thrown

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in the boneyard, frozen to the ground in
the winter, and I even saw one in a

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tree. They're an eyesore and a menace
unless the program is stringently

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monitored from the get-go. Seavoy
trustees, I hope before you proceed with

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the implementation of this program, you
consider all viewpoints, including mine.

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I ask that you require VO to closely
monitor the location of its vehicles so

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they are moved and recirculated quickly.
Demand statistics from them on how

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quickly these vehicles are actually
picked up. Make citizen safety the

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cornerstone of the policy you put in
place for any micromobility program like

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this. We all want to feel safe when
we're outside using the city's streets

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and sidewalks. That's really not asking
too much.

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» Thank you. Is there any other public
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I see Teddy Davis walking up.
My name's Ted Davis. I live at 409

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Graham Drive in Seavoi, which is at the
corner of Graham and Prospect, and

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you're thinking about putting a
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stop at that point. That would be a very
good thing. It would obviously help me,

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but I don't worry about me. when you
have your biggest problem is when you

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have a meeting or something across the
street on weekends.

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You've taken the parking off of
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But at that corner, you've got one that
goes flying right on through and you got

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two others that stop. They people that
are on Graham Drive cannot see Prospect

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until they almost get out on to it.
anything coming from the south and if

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you think they don't go around that
corner pretty fast you're wrong during

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the day and def definitely when you have
a convention or something across the way

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like they do on weekends. So I would
recommend that it would be good for you

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to slow that traffic up a little bit
there. Thank you.

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Is there any other public comment?

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» Okay. I know you just uh walked in, so
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» the assumption today that we put this
stop sign at Graham and whatever that

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street is and I think it's needed and I
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done on that night and I was not I am
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So, I think we need the street sign. And
that's all I need to know.

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Okay. Is there any other public comment?

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Okay. Seeing none, we'll move on to
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and turn this over to Andy to introduce
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newest employee.
>> Thank you, Mr. President. Um, I'm

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honored here tonight to introduce Scott
Batty, uh, who's in the audience, uh, is

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our new communications, um, manager.
Scott, uh, as many of you know, is a

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media professional with nearly two
decades of experience in the area. As a

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seasoned broadcaster, he's probably best
known in the community for coverage and

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broadcasting of UFI athletics, but he
also brings expertise in media

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relations. With a background as a former
news reporter with WDWS and the News

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Gazette, Scott has a working knowledge
of local government. Uh he's also hosted

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numerous news and talk programs,
conducting interviews with elected

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officials and local leaders, including a
few probably even in this room. Uh as a

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bonus, Scott and his wife Christina have
been Seavoy residents for over 10 years

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along with their two children. Uh and
Scott wanted me to let you know their

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two cats. Uh Christina is a tenure
professor at Parkland College in

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chemistry and a foreign excuse me in
chemistry and forensic science. Uh

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before his time in media, Scott had
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Um in his spare time, Scott has lots of
hobbies. Uh I won't go into them, but uh

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he likes coffee and running and I think
that's what we need to know the most. So

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um Scott has been a great addition to
our organization just in the last few

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weeks. his experience um provides uh
countless opportunities for us to expand

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our communications and media work and
we're excited to have him.

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» It is a part-time position. That is
accurate. Yes.

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» Um anybody have any comments at all?
>> All righty.

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I do cannot think of any other
announcements. Can you think of any?

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» No, your honor.
>> Uh, we'll move on to uh discussion

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items. Uh, staff reports. We'll let the
sheriff's office go first.

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» Thank you. Uh, good evening, Seth Her
with the sheriff's office.

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» Nothing major to report to you guys.
Obviously, uh, coming up here in the end

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of April is going to be the Illinois
Marathon that does come through Savoi.

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Uh we've already had early uh planning
stages with that uh with uh Chief Smith

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with the fire department and Roland
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that's in in the uh process beginning
stages with that. So we're looking

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forward to another successful uh
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Uh any questions for the sheriff's
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Yep.
We'll move on to our uh monthly

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financial reports.

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» Hello, Mr. President, and good evening,
board of trustees. Um, I'll talk about

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the treasures report real quick. First,
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as compared to last month, we have a
little bit more money on hand. Um, and

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we're sitting at about $20 million.
Um items of interest that might that

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might be of interest to you on the
dispersements are um a few project

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related things that Roland's been
working on. We've dispersed and this is

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in January. We've dispersed $27,000
uh towards the Prairie Fields uh

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multi-use path which is also funded by
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We dispersed uh six about just under
$70,000 for the first street bridge

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improvement. And worth noting is that
the city of Champagne, I believe it is,

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reimbured us for 50% of that. We also
dispersed um 91 almost 92,000 for the I

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do uh route 45 resurface project which
was our share our cost share of that

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project. Um,
and on the whole looks like we spent

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about $449,000.
Everything else was just u your typical

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operating expenses.
Do you have any questions?

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» Hey, any questions for Jolene?

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» Do what?
What do you say?

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» do you want me to do the investment
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» Yeah.
>> Okay. So, we also have the quarterly

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investment report. Um, we have about $20
million invested at this time, which is

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about 99.2%
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Um
bear with me

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of that 20 million about 19,000 or 19
million 19.2 million is available. It's

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very liquid. We can uh withdraw that
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As you see on page five, you can see the
quarterly I'm comparing three quarters

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of Q3 on a fiscal year basis and uh the
interest earnings basically investment

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earnings continue to go up. However, I
do expect to see that to start dropping

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because um as you'd expect the interest
rates are dropping. Um,

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if you look at page six, you can see
that on this bar chart that we've

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continued to go up and now we're
starting to see a little bit of drop.

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That's a little bit because of rates and
also we're going to start seeing more

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money go out the door as we start
working on Curtis Road. Um,

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right now we're averaging about $13,000
a month from interest income on CDs and

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then uh the remainder is all on um
pulled investments with Illinois funds.

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I also have noted in here that we would
look at other ways to invest our money.

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Um, I did look into treasuries last
month to see if that would make us any

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more money. And to be honest, Illinois
Funds actually earns us more money and

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the money is more liquid than it would
be if I put it into treasuries. So, um,

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I think that's it. Do you guys have any
questions for me?

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>> Thank you.

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Yeah. So, we'll we'll put together

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ahead.
>> Um, so we just wrapped up obviously the

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third quarter. So, uh, we're getting to
that time of year where our budget comes

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down to a lot of reallocations. Um, we
had about seven this last quarter. Um,

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which really isn't too too bad. Um, some
of that was because of some projects

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again that we are doing. Uh, mainly the
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Um,
there weren't really any big budget

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increases or decreases. We're kind of on
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And then um you'll note on the budget
impact um you if you look closely at the

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budget report that you were given the uh
fire shift wages are above and beyond

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what we expected. That is because when
we initially budgeted we did not expect

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the shift wages to be completely full as
they are. So we're blessed that they're

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really full but we also really didn't
think that they would be. So, um, but

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we're going to make that up through some
different reallocations and, um, any

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money that comes in for the fire, um,
with their lift assist and the fire

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subscriptions, that will all go towards
that overage. So, it'll all be fine in

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the end. Um, and because of those shift
wages, that also makes our social

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security
go up as well. It's kind of a reciprocal

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kind of thing. Um, and then
unfortunately the poor fire department

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has had its share of uh grand repairs
this year. Um, and that's something that

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we can't do anything about. It just
happens. So, we just kind of go with the

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flow and find the money where we can to
make that happen. Um, other than that, I

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think everything's pretty much on par.
Does anyone have any questions?

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» All right. Fantastic. Thank you.
Sure.

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Uh I think you saw in the draft budget
we're u looking at uh purchasing a new

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street sweeper and we're very thankful
for that if it comes to fruition because

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uh current one was down uh I think over
three months this year for repairs and

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uh That's one of our most popular needed
services. Curtis Rud was mentioned. Um

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we're making good progress there and uh
rightway acquisition is is slated to

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begin in the very near future. We had to
um jump several hurdles with IDOT and

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Federal Highway before that could begin
and we're very close. So that's going to

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start. We've had some very good meetings
with the university and Canadian

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National Railroad. And as I mentioned
before, we got a $3.3 million ID do

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grant that's helped us out quite a bit
and uh we're planning to come back on

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that study session plan for later this
summer. So that concludes my update.

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questions.

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» I I'll just uh relay to you that I've
had uh and I did relay one conversation

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where people are concerned about
streets being swept and um I've probably

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had three people approach me about that.
It's probably the time of year where

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debris is in the streets and people are
concerned about storm water. So, just

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relaying that.
>> Good to know.

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Sorry. Okay. So, the community and
economic development uh quarter 3

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department community development. Uh
we've had two planning and zoning cases.

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Sorry. the comprehensive plan update. Uh
we closed out closed the survey uh

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January 1st. It seems there were 302
total responses. 87% of that was

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submitted by village residents. Um we
are going to be continuing with that. Uh

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working towards
using the data we've collected from that

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and um creating a draft report soon. Um
Ory the building safety super advisor is

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going he's working on uh getting our
code compliance updated. Uh that final

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report I'm sorry final meeting should be
taken in

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should be done in early April is what
this says. So, he's planning on having

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that uh and we then we should be able to
come forward with

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our the final report for you to vote on
in early April um for economic

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development.
In quarter three, we approved oh two uh

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building and property enhancement
grants, the BPG grants. um one for

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Massage Envy for a new sign and one for
411 Claridan Court which is building um

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behind it's the State Farm agent is
there. Some of the other it's a it's a

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multi- office building. They're going to
be improving the sidewalk as well as uh

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some of the brick facade potentially if
they have the the funds to cover both of

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those. So um those things are what has
happened in quarter three and

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That's all I've got. So, any questions?

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» Sorry.

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» Uh just a few key highlights. Uh we did
have our record calendar year for calls

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uh that happened during quarter 3. Uh I
think some of you saw social media posts

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on that. Uh call volume is up and
continuing to trend up. Uh the other big

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change there was a federal change from
Nifers infers uh to NERS. So some of the

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data looks a little different the names.
Um there will be some more uh graphs and

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other things included in future reports
from that new NERS data. So that is all

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» Um I see that the shifts are getting
filled. And so it appears that you have

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sufficient uh co per personnel coverage
for needs but also that needs have has

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risen. So do you still feel comfortable
with what we have set?

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» Yeah. So all of our shifts um for the
last several months have been filled

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which is a great thing. There are times
that we get multiple calls at once. Um,

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so there's not a guarantee that others
will be available. Uh, but we do our

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best and uh, I think we're in a pretty
good spot with staffing currently.

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» What came first particular VA? Did the
staff the shifts fill first or did the

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increase calls which created a need for
shift fil?

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» Uh, shifts filled first. Um we've been
very lucky and blessed that they have

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been filled and then call volume has
increased

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» volume

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» over the long run. Yes. But in the short
term, uh, shifts have been filled for

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quite some time.

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There we go.

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» Just a just a comment. I do like some of
the new uh data that's in the report

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coming out of the the new federal
system. The map is quite interesting too

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to see where where you guys are going.
Obviously I know of some of those

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because they're larger incidents as
we're going further away but uh it's

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very interesting how I mean obviously
much of it concentrated in SEO but you

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guys are helping a lot of folks out
around the county

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» and you'll see uh increased data as we
get more familiar with that software to

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give you more information.

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Do the are the lifts included in
medical, no emergency or both?

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» Uh the lifts if they are just a lift
assist would be the non-emergency. If we

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go there for a lift assist and it turns
into a medical then it would be

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classified under medical.

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» Yep. Uh I I will say quite often we're
dispatched for things that we are

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completely different than when we get
there. So

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» Okay.
I I think the sheriff's office would

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probably agree with that's countywide
and nothing wrong with the dispatchers

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or anything like that. People just don't
always give the best information over

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the phone and we find a lot a lot of
different things.

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» Thank you, Sam.
>> Uh Nick.

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» All right. Hi. Um, so this last quarter
we saw again tons of usage at the rec

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center. Um, uh, pretty much record
numbers through quarter three and that

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continued into February this year. We're
in the middle of kind of special event

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season for us. Um, we went New Year's
Eve to mother son uh, daddy daughter

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dance, mother son Nerf war. On Friday
we're going to have the St. Patrick's

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Day festival. Then in April we'll have
the doggy Easter egg hunt. And so all

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those things are very wellreceived, um,
very popular, all those sorts of things.

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And so then on top of that you also see
events coming to us like the CU craft

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fair which also saw booming numbers and
everything. So so most of the things

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over there are are are pretty highly
anticipated and attended and happy to

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answer any questions.

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» Hey Nick, I see your your uh staff has
got a pretty active social media

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presence. Some of the stuff's pretty
cute. It's funny funny to watch.

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I I didn't see a uh views or a click
count or maybe that's a Scott thing to

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to put in to to see are we driving
traffic. Are folks using it more? Right.

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I mean the
>> obviously older folks maybe like some of

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us sitting around here aren't as as keen
on following the social media, but with

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with kids still around, I can I can see
that you guys are doing some some

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innovative things in that area and
getting getting the word out about the

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events that are going on. one of the
pictures of the, you know, whether it's

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the line dancing or the moms and sons
shooting each other with Nerf is pretty

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cool to see. So
>> yeah, no, our social media has become

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very popular. I don't have the numbers
in front of me on how how much it's

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increased or those sorts of things, but
I can get those and put those in the

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next report so that you guys have that.
But but yeah, it is. And Ireland is

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doing an amazing job with that. And I
keep getting brought back to how my

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goldfish has died and people keep
talking about that video on on social

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media. So, you know, breaks my heart a
little bit.

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I don't know if this is a question. It's
more to relay a comment that the um that

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facility has ended up being very popular
and well used across all age groups and

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despite any topic of whether it's an
exercise class or raetball or using the

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walking track above all area or
individual classes or the weight room.

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It seems always to my eye well received
and filled.

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» There's no question. We try and use
every square inch of that building and

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it is well used and well loved.

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» Any other questions?

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» We are done.

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Now, this was uh I asked Andy to look
into this when he first came here. As

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you can have all seen, we've had these
bikes that are left uh

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wherever in the village. Uh they've
never bothered to get an agreement with

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the village of Seavoi. In fact, when we
called, they weren't even aware there

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was a village of Seavoy. So, um, so, um,
I wanted to at least let the board

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decide whether or not even want an
agreement. I would say that if we decide

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not to get an agreement with them that
we need to have a procedure in place or

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pass an ordinance so that we can collect
those uh scooters when they're left

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abandoned like we see them so often. Um
so that that we can collect fines on

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those and and we have some power to do
something about it. So, but I'll turn

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this over to Andy for now and and uh but
uh my intention to let the board decide

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what you guys want to do.
>> Thank you, Mr. President. As you noted,

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um we've seen a dockless bike share um
in the community for years and also as

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you noted um we had to provide a um map
lesson to to Voride specifically because

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they didn't even recognize Seavo as an
individual community. So what's been

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happening for years is that riders um
ride in the city of Champagne, the city

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of Urbana, and the University of
Illinois, and they clearly ride to

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Seavoy where they're even they're coming
to shop, they're coming um home, or

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they're coming to visit friends. And so
what we recognize is that we needed a

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form for format to regulate these bikes.
Uh currently we have no avenue to ensure

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that if bikes are being used improperly,
if they're being parked illegally, uh we

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really have no way to to regulate that,
but also no way to recoup the costs of

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the village doing the work to address
that problem. And so uh this uh addition

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to village code ultimately provides a
regulatory format for us to follow. It's

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virtually identical as what the city of
Champagne and Urbana have as well as the

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U ofi. It allows us to uh ensure that uh
we address the issues that I think have

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been presented to you this evening. Um
we receive data related to writership um

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and then we are able to recoup the costs
associated with the work that we may

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have to do to address issues that are
faced uh in the future. And um you know

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the reality here is that um many of
these bikes are used for entertainment

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but also many of them are used for
transportation and we know that people

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are using them to go to work from either
Seavoi to uh Champagne or Urbana or from

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Champagne and Urbana to Seavoi. And so
there's value in them. Uh we need to be

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able to regulate them and ensure that
they're used safely uh and address

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problems. and and this um this addition
to V Village village code ultimately

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does that.

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» Okay, I'm going to Heather I see your
hand up first or

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» Well, thank you. I I have some questions
and we did hear some comments and

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concerns of someone who has had
experience with them. I do know that we

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have a lot of pedestrians in Seavoi all
times of day and night. They use the

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walking paths and I do have the concern
that

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the scooters or the bikes are so silent
and they can go very quickly but people

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are on them whether we have an agreement
with

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uh these bikes or not. They are part of
how everything is shifting. I think

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knowing that I will say the bikes from
campus th those bigger bikes are very

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heavy. you can hardly move them. I've
tried to move some off the path when

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people have left them there. Um, so
addressing getting them picked up and

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response time and those things might be
something we need to look at and if

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there's some recourse if they don't get
picked up in a certain amount of time.

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And also then I think looking at where
they can be ridden on something that a

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pedestrian might be on and where they we
could ask people to dismount or ride in

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the street instead. Some rules I think
and whether we can legally make those

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rules um are things we should consider.
>> I just wanted to add uh something while

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I'm thinking about it. uh scooters of
that nature are not allowed in the

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village in the corporate limit. So the
village unless the village passes

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ordinance to allow number one geo um
boide

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should have the ability to put a geoence
on their scooters.

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» Okay.
>> Not so there won't operate within the

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village if we choose to go that route.
>> Okay.

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» They haven't chosen to do that up to
this point but we were in discussions

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with them
>> bicycles. there.

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» Uh anyway, I'll let uh Larry
>> Okay, bear with me.

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» I may get a little granular on this. Um
a couple years ago, I had in front of my

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place of business, I had a VO bike for
three weeks. The village couldn't get it

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moved. It was sitting out there. Um
I woke up, you know, it was a really

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foggy day today.
We all woke up to this foggy day and I

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was going down Curtis Road at 45. That's
because I was going the speed limit

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and all of a sudden out of the fog comes
is this this bike in the middle of the

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bike path
and that that could be very very

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dangerous. It was just sitting there and
I have a picture of it. Um, I circle

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back in order to get a picture of it.
Um, so that's kind of where I'm, you

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know, I I'm I'm looking at this through
I don't know if you call it rosecolored

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glasses, but I've kind of gone through
some of this. Um, I I do this is a great

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framework. I think I do like the idea of
having the bikes in the village. Um but

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there's a few things that at and bear
with me.

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Um
um so on e data sharing and

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accountability
um

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um let's see
I'm sorry I'm sorry um hold on a second.

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Um, it would be nice to know, you know,
we talked about Champagne and Urbana

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have these agreements, so it's similar
to their agreements. I would assume that

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we could get their track record on the
reports and solving reports of bikes

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that are um abandoned like how long does
it take? Is it 10 hours, 30 hours? In in

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fact, what is it really uh what is the
actual track record? Because like I say,

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I I saw this three weeks and now if you
go on Curtis, well, let me ask, is there

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a VO representative here tonight?
>> There is not. Not to my knowledge.

420
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:23,359
Unless Nick's moonlighting, I'd say no.
>> And why not? I mean, I'm sorry, but

421
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:28,720
Okay. So, um, is that going to be on
Curtis Road for three weeks in the bike

422
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:36,079
path? Um,
let's see. Um

423
00:40:32,079 --> 00:40:41,359
then just going down the list here. Um
there's equity access considerations.

424
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:46,400
I'm just cons I mean that's we're
talking about reduced cost memberships.

425
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:54,160
I'd want to know kind of what that what
that means. Um and you know who's who's

426
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:59,040
that available to. Um
so in two

427
00:40:56,720 --> 00:41:03,839
where it says potential board of
trustees actions um some of the

428
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:10,800
additional information would be some of
the data from champagne. Um

429
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:15,119
what are some of the fine amounts?
You know I think later it says there's a

430
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:21,520
$100
uh maximum. Um

431
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:26,040
and then in in some of the details of
that um let's see

432
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:34,560
uh
it says that they have to replenish the

433
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:39,839
deposit. There's a $1,000 deposit. Um
that could be I don't know if that could

434
00:41:36,319 --> 00:41:43,200
be a year before they replenish it. It
it's not clear. I would say we'd have to

435
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:49,119
put in like it would have to be
replenished in 20 days or something like

436
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:52,119
that. Um and
um

437
00:41:52,480 --> 00:42:01,280
uh let's see
going farther

438
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:04,280
and uh each bike company on chapter
54080

439
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:12,640
um D
remove any and I appreciate that that

440
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:16,960
they would need to remove any improperly
dockless spikes within 3 hours of

441
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:25,520
notification.
Um, how is that notification? What's the

442
00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:32,480
the the actual way of notifying? Um, and
how is that documented so that we know

443
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:37,520
with that it's within 3 hours. Um,
but I like that that in there. I think

444
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:44,480
that would help us. Maybe you know they
are very technologically savvy. Maybe

445
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:52,079
within the app um they could there could
be something saying that that uh I mean

446
00:42:47,359 --> 00:42:58,079
they they could be notified and
assuming they have an employee that they

447
00:42:54,560 --> 00:43:02,920
could remove it within 3 hours. Um let's
see.

448
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:02,920
Um,

449
00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:11,680
and
the other thing is, um, if we have to

450
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:15,359
remove those bikes, I would like to
think that we would get reimbursed for

451
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,920
public works this time to remove those
bikes. And I think that could be in

452
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,800
there.
>> I believe that is. Is it?

453
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:24,400
» I believe that is in there. And then
that's how we would then take their

454
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:30,400
deposit and then they would have to
replenish that deposit. So, the deposit

455
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:34,319
is intended to allow us to recoup costs
associated with those types of things

456
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:39,920
that you just mentioned.
>> Okay. Um

457
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:45,599
um and then
um

458
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:49,680
take Okay. uh prior to the on B page
nine

459
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:54,800
prior to the imposition of any fine on a
bike company suspending a bike company's

460
00:43:51,839 --> 00:43:59,680
license for a spec for specific period
or revoking the license of village shall

461
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:08,720
provide written notice of violation that
gets a little cumbersome for us

462
00:44:03,119 --> 00:44:14,000
for that written notification. Um,
if you're talking fine, that's different

463
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:19,839
than suspending a license.
So, I don't know if we can if we can

464
00:44:15,839 --> 00:44:23,440
fine them without going through the long
process of written notification.

465
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:28,000
» I think the answer there is yes.
>> Okay. And that's what I, you know, other

466
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,599
than that other than that we're great.
But I

467
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:33,119
» other than that, Lincoln, how was the
play? Right. Yeah.

468
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:37,839
» Right.
But that but everything in my mind in

469
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:43,040
summary is like I'd like to see more
stat some statistics define the process

470
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:50,640
a little bit better and I'm looking at
it most important from what I see on

471
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:56,240
Curtis Road and and I would I'm just
going to say everyone here check it out

472
00:44:53,920 --> 00:45:00,960
in about a week
or two or three maybe the bike's going

473
00:44:58,720 --> 00:45:05,440
to be there still. Well, and I think to
your point, I mean, as it stands now, we

474
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:10,319
have no ability to enforce, right? And
so, no, and the president mentioned,

475
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:14,960
right, if if you so choose to not pursue
this, we can um work with VO and any

476
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:20,319
other company that comes into the
community and geoence the village of

477
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:26,480
Seavoy off. That is my expectation is
something they'd be able to do. Um, but

478
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:31,520
without a framework to address these
issues, you're right, that bike could

479
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:34,079
potentially be on Curtis Road um,
indefinitely.

480
00:45:32,319 --> 00:45:37,440
» To reiterate, I like that frame
framework with a few.

481
00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:41,680
» Understood.
>> Yeah, I think the framework is useful.

482
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:48,480
And just to let people know, people are
using those bikes. Um, it's not uncommon

483
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:55,359
for me to see that. Uh so we're they're
already using the bikes and we don't

484
00:45:50,319 --> 00:46:00,880
have the the structure to be able to um
impose the fine or whatever. Uh one that

485
00:45:58,319 --> 00:46:04,880
I called in was gone in two days. So I
haven't experienced the same

486
00:46:02,079 --> 00:46:10,560
frustrations maybe other people have.
Wasn't three hours but it was not. Um

487
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:17,359
and some of them are very heavy if you
try to move them which I'm I'm wondering

488
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:22,800
if we enter in this and It would be a
very useful thing. There might be some

489
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:27,839
tool that public works could purchase to
help reduce the strain on themselves if

490
00:46:25,599 --> 00:46:34,000
they have to move those bikes. That's
something to look at too, just to help

491
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:38,400
our public works if in case of times
they might need to intercede.

492
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:46,480
The reality is we're very close to
Champagne and Urbana and campus and um

493
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:54,599
many of the people I know and have
experience with are employed in those

494
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:54,599
places and they would use those bikes.

495
00:46:55,839 --> 00:46:58,839
» I

496
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:06,000
couple thoughts piggybacking on what
Trusty Mang just said. It is my

497
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:10,079
understanding based on what you did say
is that we don't have to have an

498
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:14,960
agreement for any random person to call
the number on the bike to have it

499
00:47:11,839 --> 00:47:20,480
removed. That's part one. Part two, it
sounds like there are varying degrees of

500
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:27,359
how quickly they remove those bikes.
Part three. I know that the village, at

501
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:32,880
least staff way back when this began,
would periodically have a cluster of

502
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:38,800
those bikes back in public works. And at
some point, the company would come find

503
00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:41,839
out they've got a cluster of bikes.
Where are they? We'd like to retrieve

504
00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:45,200
them. So, they have a way of tracking
them. I'm not sure if the battery runs

505
00:47:43,839 --> 00:47:50,560
down, if they can't track them, but I
know there's a way of tracking them.

506
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:57,599
My only concern would be if we have an
agreement, how enforcable is it and how

507
00:47:54,880 --> 00:48:03,440
do does the company react to that
enforcement per se in writing and say,

508
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:09,839
you know, Aquatch obviously or champagne
and campus have these agreements already

509
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:14,960
and there are issues. So I am not
I'm I would say I'm sure that ha just

510
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:20,319
having an agreement isn't going to fix
some of the bad you know players that we

511
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:24,880
have around the build of suboid and
champana campus area. So those are my

512
00:48:23,119 --> 00:48:30,319
only thoughts. There are a lot of them.
Um, but those have been my thoughts

513
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:34,480
since basically day one knowing that the
village didn't have an agreement and the

514
00:48:31,839 --> 00:48:40,720
other communities did and also that they
are struggling with those enforcement

515
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:46,720
pieces of those agreements.
I do want to add or thought about it,

516
00:48:43,119 --> 00:48:51,760
but uh Christopher and I uh called the
company

517
00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:58,559
uh probably a year before Andy got here
and we were given a contact and an email

518
00:48:54,319 --> 00:49:03,760
to report um bikes that we saw to have
them removed. And we were assured at

519
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:10,160
that time that they would be removed
within 24 hours. And

520
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:16,240
it happened for a little while, but as
we all know that we can see the bikes

521
00:49:13,119 --> 00:49:20,640
sitting the same spot for days at a
time. Um, and it's really happened even

522
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:26,079
before there was scooters when it was
bikes on campus. You'd see the bikes

523
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:34,720
just left wherever the people decided to
leave. So, um, anyway, I wanted to add

524
00:49:29,599 --> 00:49:40,240
that, Bill. in the I I know in the the
proposed ordinance uh that there is an

525
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:44,800
opportunity to establish you know the
geo fencing

526
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:51,599
uh does that include I was not exactly
sure and maybe it needs to go it's part

527
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:56,960
of the agreement uh where they can park
because I know certain of these you know

528
00:49:54,880 --> 00:50:01,440
I've used these services all over the
country um and there have been some

529
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:05,839
places you go like when you go to step
off your scooter. If you're not in a

530
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:12,480
geoenced area that says you can leave it
here as the rider, you get charged like

531
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:15,440
15 20 bucks. Are they doing that? Would
they or would they be willing to do that

532
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:21,280
in Seavoy that says these are our
parking areas? And if you don't leave

533
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:26,800
it, park it in a parking area,
it's an opportunity for for the company

534
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:30,160
to get revenue from the rider because
we're then going to go out and pick it

535
00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:34,319
up and we're going to charge them 100
bucks, right? So, they're going to want

536
00:50:31,359 --> 00:50:38,640
to to know that there's enough I I I
want to make sure that that framework

537
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:43,200
for geo fencing approved parking
locations so that they're not sitting an

538
00:50:41,359 --> 00:50:46,480
approved parking location is this is not
going to be an approved parking

539
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:50,400
location. This will be geoenced for
operation. It's kind of funny. I was I

540
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:56,480
actually just opened the VO app and um
their geoence of of where they're

541
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:59,760
allowed includes all of Seavoy. Uh kind
of gets really weird around the golf

542
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:04,400
course. They've got some things
geopenced off mostly the driving range,

543
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:09,200
but it's it's a bit odd and it stops at
the interstate on the on the uh west

544
00:51:06,559 --> 00:51:13,280
side and you know east side. It's it's
it's pretty jagged and goes different

545
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:19,200
places. But the entirety of Seavoy is
geofenced in for operation.

546
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:25,280
But can we I know many of the services
allow geofencing appropriate pickup and

547
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:30,400
drop off. And if we could do that and
say, you know, we're going to have an

548
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:34,800
area at Walmart and an area at the
various stores area in front of the

549
00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:39,040
certain, you know, some of the the
apartment buildings or or key places,

550
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:43,599
and this is where you park them. And
then when you're done, you need to go to

551
00:51:41,119 --> 00:51:48,160
one of those parking locations. And and
I know that it's enforcable. When I was

552
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:52,240
in Tahoe, California, my wife and I had
scooters. We had a blast riding around

553
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:57,520
Tahoe and and the scooters. But I went
to I I was like four feet away from the

554
00:51:55,839 --> 00:52:00,720
painted area on the sidewalk where it
said you could leave it. And it told me

555
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:04,079
if you don't move this over, I'm
charging you. I can't remember how much

556
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:10,240
it was, but it's it's real money that
that they're getting from the riders

557
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:13,359
because those municipalities enforce.
They will send somebody out if you're

558
00:52:11,599 --> 00:52:15,599
not parked in the appropriate area, they
send somebody out from the city and then

559
00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:19,440
those companies are going to get
charged. Um, you know, we had a we had

560
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:24,319
public comment tonight from somebody who
was cautioning us, right, based on, you

561
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:28,240
know, experience in Champagne. Quite
frankly, it's no different than the

562
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:33,119
experience we've got in Subway. Uh but
but at the end of the day, the

563
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:38,240
enforcement of this ordinance is
entirely going to be up to what we if if

564
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:41,359
we pass this ordinance and then don't do
anything about either going and

565
00:52:39,839 --> 00:52:46,880
collecting them, moving them, what have
you, and charging them $100 every time

566
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:51,440
we do it, they will continue to do what
they've always done. But if it starts to

567
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:57,359
cost them, and I do, you know, Larry
mentioned, uh, we do need payment terms

568
00:52:54,000 --> 00:53:00,640
on the replenishment, you know, but
we're going to give you notice and, you

569
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:05,119
know, net 15, you got to have the, you
know, money back in our bank account and

570
00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:10,160
and these things are, you know, should
be non-negotiable, but it I think

571
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:12,960
there's an opportunity to
set an enforcement standard. Maybe

572
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:18,160
that's different than what the
university is doing and that will change

573
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:22,720
how VO operates within the village
limits and and I you know it's up to us

574
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:26,480
to either make that happen or if we
don't make it happen if we don't send

575
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:32,319
people out to go pick them up because
they haven't been picked up in three

576
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:35,599
hours and it's during peak hours they're
they'll continue to do what they've

577
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:40,319
always done unless we do something to
change their behavior. I do agree

578
00:53:37,839 --> 00:53:45,200
putting this in place. I think without a
framework, the only thing we've got to

579
00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:49,119
do is is to go pick them up and store
them in the back 40 and then they get

580
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:53,920
mad when they got to go collect them
all. But we really don't have a

581
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:58,000
mechanism to to find them or or have I I
would rather have an ordinance in place

582
00:53:55,839 --> 00:54:03,200
where we control it. But I would like to
see specific geo fencing of appropriate

583
00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:07,520
parking locations to be written into
those agreements. I mean, I'm seeing

584
00:54:05,359 --> 00:54:11,760
that the language kind of might be there
under the authority of the community

585
00:54:09,599 --> 00:54:14,079
kind of development,
but might that might need to be

586
00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:17,119
strengthened a little bit for
geopencing.

587
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:20,800
» One of the challenges, if I may, to
that, and I agree, in the city of

588
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:27,040
Champagne actually, as well as the UVI
and Urbana designated specific drop off

589
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:31,920
points, but their urban makeup allows
them to do that much easier than we do.

590
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:36,559
Uh, and so, you know, for us, of course,
we couldn't force a um, drop off point

591
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:41,599
to be on Walmart's property because it's
Walmart's property. And so, really the

592
00:54:38,559 --> 00:54:45,280
only, you know, I guess obvious
locations would be Village Hall, the rec

593
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:49,599
center, and, you know, potentially the
fire department, public places, because

594
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:54,079
we don't have a infrastructure like
those urban type areas. Now, it's not

595
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:59,520
saying we can't figure out something. Um
but that will be a challenge to kind of

596
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:02,720
accomplish what you just noted is um our
makeup is different. We're suburban,

597
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:08,079
right? I mean, and so it makes it
difficult to find common spaces to um

598
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:15,079
either force drop off or force gathering
for the bike companies. I just want to

599
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:15,079
offer that as um just a consideration.

600
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:20,119
I've never really

601
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:22,480
They know where it ends up. They don't
know uh what p They know what path it

602
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:25,280
will take. They don't know where it's
going to go. they know where it

603
00:56:23,839 --> 00:56:29,599
ultimately goes, if that makes sense.
So, they don't have to put in, the rider

604
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:33,839
doesn't have to put in, I'm going to 123
Main Street. They just go to 123 Main

605
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:39,359
Street, and the bike company can track
that route and know where the bike

606
00:56:35,839 --> 00:56:43,520
ultimately ends up. But, um, and so, to
your point, yes, the the bike share

607
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:48,160
company knows the person that rented the
bike or at least their payment

608
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:52,720
information as it relates to the ability
to find that individual. I guess I would

609
00:56:50,319 --> 00:56:57,520
yield the council on this one. My guess
is is they're not going to give us the

610
00:56:54,400 --> 00:57:01,359
information. Um it's the the bike
companies aren't going to provide that.

611
00:56:58,799 --> 00:57:05,799
And then the logistics of the village
finding would probably be very

612
00:57:02,799 --> 00:57:05,799
challenging.

613
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,720
» Yeah.
>> Yeah. We can clarify those fines for

614
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:16,079
sure.
>> Yeah. We'd be better off to put any fine

615
00:57:13,839 --> 00:57:21,040
on the company itself and let them worry
about collecting that back from their

616
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:25,359
writer. Uh that would be our best bet.
We don't want to end up buying having a

617
00:57:23,839 --> 00:57:31,200
bunch of people that decide they're
never going to pay us. And at least with

618
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:34,720
the company, we have a little hook. So
anyway,

619
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:38,480
» yeah, they are a tech company. I mean,
I'm almost thinking primarily a tech

620
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:45,680
company because that's what enabled this
whole industry to go. Um, so I think

621
00:57:42,799 --> 00:57:52,640
they can ge geoence.
I'm sure not very difficult. make a

622
00:57:48,319 --> 00:57:58,079
geoence um probably on a pretty
particular, you know, like if there's a

623
00:57:55,520 --> 00:58:03,440
widening of the sidewalk or corner, you
know, it wouldn't have to be where they

624
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:07,920
park and that could be worked out.
Wouldn't have to be in just those four

625
00:58:04,799 --> 00:58:13,680
locations. Um but definitely not on
someone's lawn or, you know, not in the

626
00:58:11,119 --> 00:58:20,880
street, you know, or a bike path and you
know that. And um then they also I'm

627
00:58:17,839 --> 00:58:27,119
sure they can also um they also know
where that bike is so that it wouldn't

628
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:32,880
be the onus wouldn't be on one of
somebody calling them up because that

629
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:37,760
that is a you know that is ridiculous to
have people have to call the company and

630
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:42,559
complain.
You know what I mean? It's they should

631
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:47,839
have statistics and I mean they should
have um reporting on where their bikes

632
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:52,720
are and then they you know it'd be nice
to to see

633
00:58:50,319 --> 00:58:57,520
you know if they've violated anything.
Um so anyway I just think as a tech

634
00:58:54,960 --> 00:59:03,839
company they can do a lot of this stuff.
um and if they if they were licensed I

635
00:58:59,599 --> 00:59:09,839
mean again I'd like to see a company
um be able to work in Seavoy but you

636
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:14,040
know I I think if we need to license
them and I I agree with that

637
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:20,880
just as a uh I I pulled up my vehicle
app and and looked to see what they they

638
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:23,920
didn't know my name they know my cell
phone number and they know my credit

639
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:28,480
card and that's really all they cared
about right they asked me what my the

640
00:59:26,319 --> 00:59:32,480
name field in uh and any other
identifiable information in my account

641
00:59:30,319 --> 00:59:36,720
is blank because I only gave them the
minimum to turn on the bike to drive and

642
00:59:35,359 --> 00:59:41,520
that was a cell phone number and a
credit card.

643
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:44,880
Uh so getting back to individual
personally identifiable information,

644
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:49,839
first of all, I'm not sure the village
wants to get anywhere near that. That's

645
00:59:46,799 --> 00:59:53,480
that's all kinds of problems. Uh but it
may not even be available.

646
00:59:53,839 --> 01:00:01,599
I'll also mention I'm not I know in the
infancy stages the companies didn't have

647
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:07,119
actual representatives. They contracted
someone to pick up the bikes which is

648
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:11,839
why some of the timing varies with
respect to how quickly they do pick them

649
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:18,240
up. don't know how much that has changed
and I I would be hardressed to think

650
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:24,240
that VO Mike or whomever the tech
company is has staff in Champagne or any

651
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:28,559
community at that
servicing their pickups. They contract

652
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:35,880
someone which is you know why they have
that number. Hey, you need to go pick up

653
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:35,880
this bike this place at you know level.

654
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:45,359
» Any other questions or not?
Um,

655
01:00:42,559 --> 01:00:52,200
Judging from the questions, I'm guessing
the board is not ready for a final

656
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:52,200
addition. So,

657
01:00:53,119 --> 01:01:02,640
some changes first.
>> Could we invite a representative to come

658
01:00:57,359 --> 01:01:07,760
and answer questions the next time?
>> That might give us the information that

659
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:13,920
we would like.
>> So, If it's okay with the board, we'll

660
01:01:11,119 --> 01:01:21,280
table this for now and make some
adjustments based on comments and when

661
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:29,040
we feel like it's ready to come back
session. Everybody happy with that? Um,

662
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:36,640
what's the I do want to ask what's the
board's feeling on like you said the

663
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:39,640
village has never authorized or pass
allow

664
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:50,599
Are we good at keeping this status quo
or do we like contact the

665
01:01:47,599 --> 01:01:50,599
representatives

666
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:57,720
to be operating
within the village

667
01:01:58,319 --> 01:02:06,000
I prefer to allow them to operate for
the status quo and I think we should act

668
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:09,839
the pace to get this agreement in place
because there there's a number of that

669
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:12,559
use this service.
They pick up a lot of the bikes in the

670
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:16,480
winter time, so they're not using it.
They're about to all come out storage.

671
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:20,880
If Larry's Larry's got a picture of one
this morning, I mean, I haven't seen

672
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:24,880
many of them out yet since, you know,
the ball has happened, but we're going

673
01:02:22,559 --> 01:02:29,520
to start seeing them. I just think it
behooves us to to get some updates made

674
01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:34,720
to this and try and get it, you know, in
place by April rather than blocking out

675
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:39,440
some way. It's it's too valuable for the
residents. I wanted to check make sure

676
01:02:37,599 --> 01:02:44,079
everybody's happy with that. Um
>> I agree with Bill.

677
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:50,079
» Okay. Um and I did I happen to see one.
I can't remember where I saw it today,

678
01:02:45,599 --> 01:02:55,200
but it wasn't on Curtis Road. So, no.
All right. So, we'll go ahead and um

679
01:02:53,040 --> 01:03:01,280
pull this from next week's agenda and
make some modifications to it based on

680
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:05,440
the input. And when uh staff is ready to
present it again, we'll bring it back in

681
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:10,559
front of the board. All right. Okay.
We'll move on to study session item 20

682
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:15,440
202612,
a resolution approving an agreement with

683
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:20,240
the Illinois Central Railroad for
preliminary engineering review services.

684
01:03:18,319 --> 01:03:24,400
And I'm sure this will be turned over to
Roland.

685
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:28,480
» Yes, thank you. Um, Canadian National
Railroad requires local agencies to pay

686
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:32,960
for third party review of plans
submitted. This is something they do up

687
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:38,720
and down the line. And I mean they have
dozens if not hundreds of projects

688
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:43,680
across their system and you know their
view is we wouldn't have this cost if if

689
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:52,640
you weren't doing your project. So they
request uh the uh agency uh reimburse

690
01:03:49,520 --> 01:04:00,319
them for this cost and it's generally a
flat fee of about $25,000. And um if we

691
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:05,599
want timely review from them as we move
forward and keep the project on track,

692
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:09,760
uh we need to um our recommendation
would be to go ahead and approve this

693
01:04:07,359 --> 01:04:13,520
agreement.
And so I'll take any questions you might

694
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:16,960
have that
>> Roland. Does are they doing this in

695
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:21,760
house or are they using another another
A&E firm? Well, um they started off

696
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:26,640
telling us they could review it in house
and the reviews uh were pretty slow and

697
01:04:25,119 --> 01:04:31,680
over the first year it probably cost us
a couple two or three months. Um and

698
01:04:29,839 --> 01:04:36,799
they've you know we told them that hey
this is we're down to last year here we

699
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:41,839
need to get your views and they said
well if you want that then we need to go

700
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:46,640
to this more traditional route to get
you timely interviews. Yeah, that for

701
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:51,359
for my fellow trustees, I've worked with
the railroads back starting back in the

702
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:55,839
90s on on projects. They're notoriously
slow. Um I do know talking with Roland

703
01:04:54,160 --> 01:05:00,079
that when we got this project started,
they were the cause of some of the

704
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:04,960
delays that we've had in trying to keep
things going. And anything we can do to

705
01:05:02,319 --> 01:05:08,720
move the railroad along a little faster,
even though it means spending a little

706
01:05:06,559 --> 01:05:13,920
money, I do think is well worth our
investment. It will it will pay for

707
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:19,280
itself in time reduction.
I agree. We're at the point where time

708
01:05:15,599 --> 01:05:24,160
is of the essence and we need to move in
a timely fashion. Even a little bit

709
01:05:21,599 --> 01:05:28,880
spent now is going to be a huge savings
when the grant monies are still there.

710
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:38,079
There's a certain period of time of
funding and we need to do everything to

711
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:44,079
propel the timeline.
question

712
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:49,200
» with respect to the agreement. Does it
guarantee speed or does it guarantee

713
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:54,720
little back if that
>> the railroad won't give those kind of

714
01:05:51,599 --> 01:05:59,119
guarantees but I've talked to our our
colleagues in Springfield that have you

715
01:05:56,720 --> 01:06:04,720
know done probably half a dozen of
projects of this size and they said this

716
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:09,760
is the only way to go really if you want
to get them to to do it in a timely

717
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,760
fashion.

718
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:18,799
question.
Okay. Uh it's okay with board members.

719
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:23,839
Should we include this on the consent
agenda?

720
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:27,920
» This item on the consent agenda.
We'll move on to s study session item

721
01:06:26,319 --> 01:06:33,039
202613
resolution authorizing the installation

722
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:38,960
of a hallway stop the intersection of
South Pros

723
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,960
and Grand Drive.

724
01:06:39,599 --> 01:06:47,839
I'm going to take a a minute or so here
and uh bring up a a something on the

725
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:52,640
screen. It's very similar to what you
have in your packet. Just thought it

726
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:57,359
would be useful to to have it. Um what
we're doing here is as you noticed

727
01:06:55,359 --> 01:07:01,280
earlier at the at the result of a
community request looking at uh in my

728
01:06:59,599 --> 01:07:06,000
view correcting a situation where we
have very odd stop sign configuration

729
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:11,200
with two out of three legs of the uh
intersection of of Graham and South

730
01:07:08,319 --> 01:07:17,520
Prospect uh stop controlled and a third
one free flowing. And uh it's it's at

731
01:07:15,039 --> 01:07:20,559
this kind of intersection it's very rare
to see that kind of configuration. It's

732
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:24,319
the only place that I could think of
where you see that is large commercial

733
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:32,960
entrances where you have one free
flowing, the other's stop. Um, as usual,

734
01:07:29,599 --> 01:07:40,400
uh, we look at, uh, the MUTCD warrants
for stop signs. Uh, and, um, the the

735
01:07:37,039 --> 01:07:45,680
initial warrants, traffic volume, safety
issues,

736
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:49,359
aka crash records, and, uh, interim
measure when you're going to put traffic

737
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:56,799
signal in. those those don't really fit
here. Um but they have what's called

738
01:07:52,079 --> 01:08:00,720
these uh warranty e uh other factors and
um some some people refer to those as

739
01:07:58,559 --> 01:08:05,520
common sense warrants. Uh they were
adopted by the MUTCD to give local

740
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:09,119
communities some flexibility
uh because they can't imagine every

741
01:08:07,039 --> 01:08:16,080
situation like like this. They couldn't
have thought of that this would exist.

742
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:20,560
Um these warrant e criteria are um they
they described them as left turning

743
01:08:17,839 --> 01:08:24,880
conflicts u u intersection of two
through collector streets residential

744
01:08:22,719 --> 01:08:30,400
collector streets and an intersection
where uh pedestrian and bicycle uh

745
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:35,199
movements support the installation of an
allway stop.

746
01:08:32,480 --> 01:08:41,199
Um
this is a diagram you have in your in

747
01:08:37,279 --> 01:08:47,839
your packet. Um and I would mention that
the let me go back to the initial um we

748
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:51,520
don't have at this point an official
adopted map street classification map

749
01:08:50,159 --> 01:08:56,960
says these are collectors these are
minor collectors these are arterials ID

750
01:08:54,159 --> 01:09:02,239
has some maps on uh arterial
classifications we have some studies

751
01:08:59,199 --> 01:09:07,040
that have shown some thinking on what
collector streets are one of the

752
01:09:04,159 --> 01:09:11,440
criteria that you use when you u look at
a collector street is does it connect to

753
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:15,520
an arterial street? And another is does
it, you know, do you have through

754
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:21,040
traffic from one Archerial Street to
another? And I would argue that with the

755
01:09:18,159 --> 01:09:26,799
combined couple of uh Prospect and
Graham both connecting to Route 45 and

756
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:30,880
Church Street, you do have that free
flow of traffic through here that looks

757
01:09:28,480 --> 01:09:37,120
like a looks like a collector. But
that's really um kind of a judgment. Um,

758
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:40,719
so let me go to the intersection and
look at some of the conflicts we

759
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:45,359
currently have. And one of the concerns
here is if you go there all the time,

760
01:09:43,359 --> 01:09:48,880
maybe you're used to it, but we do have
visitors at the rec center and people

761
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:54,960
who come through town that have not been
here before and um they, you know, they

762
01:09:52,319 --> 01:09:59,120
come up to the the stop uh stop at a
stop sign and they they might assume

763
01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:05,199
that the other the northbound prospect
is going to stop. So that's that's one

764
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:12,080
conflict, a vehicle conflict and Um the
other one is the uh the the rupal path

765
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:17,760
terminates at that intersection and so
we do have bicycles and pedestrians

766
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:24,640
coming from from that um that direction.
And then there is a sidewalk uh crossing

767
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:28,719
as well. And um when when you come up to
an intersection when you stop you have a

768
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:33,440
little more time to evaluate is there a
pedestrian to my right about ready to

769
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:37,360
step out. Whereas if you're just coming
through and you're going to sort of zoom

770
01:10:35,440 --> 01:10:41,440
through and turn right and you're maybe
looking at is there a car coming at me,

771
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:46,000
you might, you know, not notice the
pedestrian to your right. You're also

772
01:10:43,440 --> 01:10:52,560
going to be going slower if you're at if
you come to a stop and we know that

773
01:10:48,719 --> 01:10:59,360
pedestrian car crashes, but the the
injury rate is much lower if the speed

774
01:10:55,040 --> 01:11:03,920
is more. So, I I understand that the uh
you know, the left turning conflicts,

775
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:07,120
and I'll be honest with you, what what
they're typically talking about there is

776
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:12,719
an intersection, a four-legged
intersection where you have two oncoming

777
01:11:09,679 --> 01:11:17,120
cars both turning left at the same time.
That's what the turning conflict really

778
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:21,040
applies to. But we do have somewhat of a
left turning conflict in that we have

779
01:11:18,719 --> 01:11:26,800
left turning vehicles from westbound
Graham that might assume that the

780
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:33,440
through traffic on Prospect is going to
going to stop. The the number one

781
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:38,960
warrant that uh convinced me that it it
made sense to recommend a stop sign

782
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:45,360
though was the bicycle and pedestrian
traffic. Um I think it would be um

783
01:11:42,159 --> 01:11:48,640
safer. Um, you know, it's almost one of
those things like don't have any stop

784
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:53,199
signs at all or put three of them in,
you know, and I think if we remove even

785
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:57,280
one of the other two, we might have more
of a outcry than than what we're

786
01:11:55,679 --> 01:12:01,520
currently hearing. So, our
recommendation is is to go ahead and put

787
01:11:59,199 --> 01:12:05,840
the stop sign and we feel that it meets
the warrant, particularly the bikeet

788
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:11,040
movement, support the installation of an
all hallway stop. So, I'll stop there

789
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:16,159
and uh I know there's some different uh
thoughts on this and um entertain any

790
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:21,679
questions.
>> Uh I'm there quite frequently both um in

791
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:28,159
an automobile
ride riding my bike or as a pedestrian

792
01:12:24,239 --> 01:12:34,400
and that's a busy area right there. Um
the recreation center can have lots of

793
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:40,480
people coming and leaving all at the
same times. I will say I support it's

794
01:12:38,159 --> 01:12:47,760
sort of a no-brainer in the common sense
area to have an allway stop. Um it

795
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:54,400
increases safety and gives time for a
person to perceive a bicycle coming

796
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:59,120
through or a pedestrian. And um
and we also need to be aware that

797
01:12:56,719 --> 01:13:04,159
sometimes there's a heavy amount of
people leaving and though they can leave

798
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:10,480
two different ways,
they could be leaving this way, too. So

799
01:13:08,480 --> 01:13:15,400
I I think it's a no-brainer that the
common sense thing to do isn't always

800
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,400
stop.

801
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:27,760
This is u I know I've spoken many times
on on stop policy. Uh right before I

802
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:32,320
joined this board, like a couple months
before I joined this board, the the

803
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:37,440
village board decided to put in a number
of stop signs that meant no warrants at

804
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:41,440
all. Uh Roland was not the engineer. The
engineer at the time didn't bring

805
01:13:38,719 --> 01:13:45,199
warrants forward to the board uh for
consideration. I will say that I'm

806
01:13:43,199 --> 01:13:49,840
conflicted on this one. Uh Roland is
absolutely correct that there is nobody

807
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:54,800
in their right mind would set this
situation up from the beginning this

808
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:58,320
way. Uh there you know when when it was
established when the very first stop

809
01:13:56,239 --> 01:14:04,159
sign was put in all of them should have
been put in. So Roland is 100% correct

810
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:09,840
there. Uh Roland's also correct in in
how he laid out the you know section E

811
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:14,800
warrants. Uh I did have an email
exchange with him and and challenged uh

812
01:14:12,719 --> 01:14:20,159
some of those.
The government in this case when they

813
01:14:17,440 --> 01:14:26,719
put the manual together created this
section purposefully vague so that there

814
01:14:24,239 --> 01:14:31,120
aren't numbers, there aren't right.
There's very squishy language and it

815
01:14:29,440 --> 01:14:36,560
bothers me as an engineer that there's
very squishy language and the government

816
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:41,920
does that so that
so that an engineer in a village our

817
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:46,400
size can have a weird situation and say
yes this meets the warrants and we're

818
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:50,239
doing the right thing in the engineering
and you can feel good about doing it

819
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:54,239
without what I have previously called in
in in past political stop signs meaning

820
01:14:52,960 --> 01:15:00,640
that they don't meet an engineering
criteria they only meet the requirements

821
01:14:56,719 --> 01:15:05,120
of the body politic us uh and we say we
should do this because it's a political

822
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:09,199
decision to put in a political stop sign
and we have many of those four or five

823
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:14,640
that I can think of off the top of my
head in the village that don't meet any

824
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:18,560
warrants and they're there. So this is
not a hill I'm willing to die on. This

825
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:24,159
is I know on the in the last time we had
stop signs uh I supported one and not

826
01:15:21,199 --> 01:15:28,480
the other. The time before that I was
pretty against them. I think I've lost

827
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:32,480
every time. Um
it that part doesn't matter. I don't

828
01:15:30,480 --> 01:15:36,640
really care about that. I I just want
the board to remember that as we're

829
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:42,719
looking at these things, there are real
reasons that we should put stop signs.

830
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:47,040
They are not traffic calming. I I winced
a little bit. We had public comment

831
01:15:44,480 --> 01:15:52,000
today where
uh the reason for the stop sign was to

832
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:57,280
calm the traffic down. The engineer in
me says that's exactly why you don't do

833
01:15:54,320 --> 01:16:03,280
it. You never use a stop sign, a traffic
control device to calm traffic because

834
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:07,440
it goes against human nature. It's the
wrong thing to do and you'll get the

835
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:12,159
wrong driver behavior. At the same time,
in this situation,

836
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:17,120
however, it got to have two stops and
and not three. It's kind of crazy to me.

837
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:21,679
So,
what I'm going to say is that I I would

838
01:16:19,440 --> 01:16:25,440
I'm gonna continue my caution about
where to put stop signs in the village

839
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:29,040
and we should not be putting stop signs
where it's because the body politic

840
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:34,159
wants to do that. I'm calling those
political stop signs. U we should do it

841
01:16:32,480 --> 01:16:38,320
where there's an engineering reason.
Roland has given us an an adequate

842
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:43,360
engineering reason. Did I challenge him
on all of the warrant criteria? Yes, I

843
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:47,840
did in an email back and forth. uh and
he had very good explanations and and

844
01:16:45,440 --> 01:16:52,719
reasons why he feels that it meets the
warrants and and it certainly uh you

845
01:16:50,480 --> 01:16:57,600
know I I can say no from this chair if I
want to because not as my role as a as a

846
01:16:55,600 --> 01:17:02,640
licensed engineer but in my role as a as
a a trustee but again this is not a hill

847
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:10,199
I'm willing to die on. I think it's a
pretty small issue and I'll go with

848
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:10,199
whatever the uh the feeling board is.

849
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:18,920
Yeah,
I am not a engineer

850
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:26,480
looking at it as
>> nice pictures.

851
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:33,040
» I'm aware everyone's surrounded.
Um, as Heather might say, common sense.

852
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:40,560
So, we've been here before in my mind
when we low we we had an issue with a

853
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:46,239
school and people were speeding.
So, instead of addressing the speeding,

854
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:52,800
we took all the streets in the village
and lowered the speeding limit speed

855
01:17:50,719 --> 01:17:57,920
and we still got a complaint. We still
get complaints about speeding from the

856
01:17:54,640 --> 01:18:03,440
school. So, I like to look at what the
problem is.

857
01:17:59,440 --> 01:18:08,480
Um, and so with that in mind,
um, I'm wondering, you know, politically

858
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:12,719
we've had a couple of complaints. I
don't know what quantity of complaints

859
01:18:10,239 --> 01:18:19,600
we've had about that. I don't know how
many accidents there have been there. We

860
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:27,120
don't really have data on that, if any.
Um

861
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:31,040
um I look at it that you have a very
short section and you pull out of the

862
01:18:29,199 --> 01:18:36,640
parking lot.
You're not going 40.

863
01:18:33,679 --> 01:18:41,120
If you go south, I'm sorry. If you go
south out of the parking lot,

864
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:46,320
um I don't know what the traffic count
is, but I know a lot of people come out

865
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:51,040
of there. Um I don't know how many
people actually

866
01:18:48,480 --> 01:18:54,719
take Graham Drive.
And I mean, if I were going to the the

867
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:59,840
rec center and I took Graham Drive, I'd
be turning in before Prospect,

868
01:18:58,239 --> 01:19:06,480
but you know, I know not everyone does
that. So, I would guess a lot of the

869
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:11,520
traffic Graham goes south on Prospect.
Um, how much traffic goes north on

870
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:16,800
Prospect? I don't know. I don't know.
you know, if people come to the rec

871
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:20,320
center from Curtis, if we have a large
flow of people and they come come in

872
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:26,960
across.
So, I'm looking at that. I'm thinking

873
01:19:24,159 --> 01:19:31,840
um
if you're on Graham Drive and some of

874
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:39,199
the issue is uh the people on Graham
Drive and and the the word was

875
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:43,440
they assume
they're assuming on Graham Drive.

876
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:49,239
assuming that the people on Prospect are
stopping.

877
01:19:45,440 --> 01:19:49,239
And um

878
01:19:49,679 --> 01:19:59,840
I think what the problem is
is not that we need stop signs

879
01:19:56,880 --> 01:20:06,719
everywhere whenever there's a problem. I
think we, you know, there's a way to put

880
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:12,239
on Graham Drive. It'd be very cross
traffic does not stop because that's

881
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:19,760
kind of what the problem was described
to be that people assume I mean

882
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:26,880
definitely very wrong to have two out of
the three stop signs. I mean that that's

883
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:32,800
it is crazy. Um, I would say we need
just to have one sign that says cross

884
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:37,840
traffic does not stop because the people
coming south are not going very fast.

885
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:42,320
People coming north are driving in on
their regular street and the people

886
01:20:40,239 --> 01:20:48,320
going in on Graham know that cross
traffic does not stop. So that anyway

887
01:20:45,440 --> 01:20:55,040
that's that would be my
that would be my not to die on.

888
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:59,840
So tonight
I am conscious of why President Brown

889
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:03,760
gives me the side eye when he thinks I
want to say something because I've had

890
01:21:02,159 --> 01:21:08,560
comments about the vobikes and now I
have several comments about this and I

891
01:21:05,199 --> 01:21:15,280
too am not an engineer.
What I hear um trusty camper saying is

892
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:20,159
with cross traffic doesn't stop are you
considering an idea that to remove the

893
01:21:18,239 --> 01:21:23,520
stop sign for southbound traffic out of
rec center?

894
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:28,800
» Yes. Okay. and putting and putting one
on the uh the bike path that says um

895
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:32,960
stop. I you know
>> Okay, thank you for saying that because

896
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:42,080
in my head as I was looking at Rowan's
map um the stop sign there at the drive

897
01:21:37,199 --> 01:21:47,040
heading south towards Church Street um
makes sense to be there as it is now. I

898
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:53,360
don't understand why there wasn't a stop
sign on northbound Prospect. However, I

899
01:21:50,480 --> 01:21:59,760
do know at some point the village had
ideas of connecting Prospect at Curtis

900
01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:04,320
Road to Prospect at Graham. So, that's
my first point. Second point, I do agree

901
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:08,000
with the stop sign. If we are since
bikes are supposed to and the

902
01:22:06,159 --> 01:22:14,800
functioning, we're being supposed to
follow vehicle traffic, vehicle car

903
01:22:11,199 --> 01:22:20,239
traffic, they should need to stop just
where you um suggested putting a stop

904
01:22:17,199 --> 01:22:25,280
sign on the Rupal path. So that's um now
I'm going to be a wise guy because I

905
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:33,040
live in Prairie Fields. I often take
Church Street to Prospect to get to the

906
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:37,600
rec center. It's an easier path for me.
Even if I'm coming from Graham Drive

907
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:42,320
West towards the rec center, I will
often pass the entrance because I don't

908
01:22:39,679 --> 01:22:47,040
have patience. I will be honest. I don't
have patience to come into the parking

909
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:53,840
lot and then figure out that I can't
find a space close to Graham. I'm going

910
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:58,880
to end up parking in the west end of the
parking lot anyway. So, it makes sense

911
01:22:55,440 --> 01:23:05,360
for me to go to that um entrance the
round to get to the parking lot from the

912
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:10,880
west rather than from the east. Um, I
honestly won't be here next week to vote

913
01:23:07,199 --> 01:23:16,239
on this, but I am with I mean the smart
people in the room um to make that right

914
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:21,840
decision with respect to where stop
signs or signs need to be. So um I am

915
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:28,320
comfortable with that. Sure. Sure. I
mean, I um respect um the other engineer

916
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:33,520
in the room, um Trusty Vabric, of
course, but certainly um we've got um

917
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:38,719
great staff on board to assess the
situation. I would be interested to know

918
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:43,679
if there I know I I know it there have
been accidents at that intersection

919
01:23:41,440 --> 01:23:47,840
since I've been involved with the
village of Seavoy. How many? I don't

920
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:52,639
know. Fender Bender, I I'm not sure. And
it typically happens when we have an

921
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:57,040
event at the rec center because there's
a lot of traffic with folks not really

922
01:23:54,560 --> 01:24:01,159
knowing, you know, the lay of the land.
But that's all I have to say.

923
01:24:04,159 --> 01:24:13,120
» The uh the road coming out of the rec
center, is that

924
01:24:10,239 --> 01:24:15,520
is that a a city street?
>> Yes.

925
01:24:14,159 --> 01:24:22,159
» Okay. So, it's not part of the rec
center block. I looked at the GIS and it

926
01:24:19,199 --> 01:24:27,719
is public right away. So it it in some
sense it acts like a street because it's

927
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:27,719
in it's in rightway.

928
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:39,040
I guess the reason I was asking was I
was thinking uh and and Nick may hate me

929
01:24:36,639 --> 01:24:45,360
for thinking this, but I was wondering
if we couldn't make the going into the

930
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:50,960
rec center the going into the rec center
and the coming out from the rec center

931
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:58,800
the exit that comes out and eliminate
that street as far as any motorized

932
01:24:55,360 --> 01:25:04,239
traffic on it.
Um

933
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:09,920
I I don't know that I would recommend
that because the parking lot currently

934
01:25:06,239 --> 01:25:14,080
has two entrances and um just from
depending on which direction you're

935
01:25:11,199 --> 01:25:18,800
coming from, you know, it's nice to have
two entrances and from a emergency

936
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:23,960
response standpoint, it's also good good
to have two ways in.

937
01:25:20,480 --> 01:25:23,960
» How about a roundabout?

938
01:25:26,480 --> 01:25:36,400
things.
>> I ask I asked Nick there, are you aware

939
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:41,360
of um uh the traffic and the and
accidents at that corner?

940
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:45,920
» I can only speak anecdotally from what I
have observed, but I've never spent time

941
01:25:43,199 --> 01:25:49,199
to really study that. Um but the people
that come in on Prospect drive a lot

942
01:25:47,679 --> 01:25:52,639
faster typically than the people coming
in on Graham. And so the people that

943
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:56,080
come from down Prospect, they tend to
come into the parking lot a whole lot

944
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:59,600
faster, too. And and and come in at that
speed. And you know, I go in that way

945
01:25:58,239 --> 01:26:03,520
every day and come out that way every
day. And every time someone doesn't stop

946
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:08,239
going north on Prospect, it surprises
me. Even though every day I do that of

947
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:13,120
the last four or five years, it does. It
surprises me every single time. Um so I

948
01:26:11,440 --> 01:26:17,679
haven't seen a ton of accidents. I've
seen a lot of near misses. Um those

949
01:26:15,440 --> 01:26:23,679
sorts of things. But do I think
something to control it better would be

950
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:29,120
helpful? I do. Um I whether it's a stop
sign or not, I'm not sure. But um

951
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:36,040
there's enough issues or close to issues
there that I think doing something about

952
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:36,040
it would be would be beneficial.

953
01:26:43,199 --> 01:26:49,440
on this one. So,
does the board want me to include this

954
01:26:47,679 --> 01:26:53,920
on as a consent agenda or keep this
separate?

955
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:57,520
» No, consent.
I don't know that we would get any

956
01:26:55,440 --> 01:27:03,280
farther if it was, but but I would like
to think that we could look at the

957
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:09,440
possibility of putting
uh cross traffic does not stop

958
01:27:07,440 --> 01:27:15,120
on that. I I don't know where that would
fit in whether it's we would not have

959
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:18,320
» is you can't say cross traffic doesn't
stop because one leg of the cross

960
01:27:16,639 --> 01:27:23,159
traffic does stop. Oh,
>> no. Get rid of the sign.

961
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:23,159
» Get rid of the stop sign.

962
01:27:28,639 --> 01:27:35,679
be honest with you.
>> I was going to say I think we should put

963
01:27:33,199 --> 01:27:41,600
it in the cons agenda because we can
either by that time have a a little more

964
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:46,960
knowledge in our own mind and an opinion
as to what the public thinks and either

965
01:27:45,199 --> 01:27:52,639
vote it up or no
>> and you can always I guess pull it out

966
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:54,880
day but I mean What do you want, Larry?
You're the one that seems to be

967
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:59,040
» Well,
>> although you are kind of iffy on

968
01:27:56,639 --> 01:28:04,400
» Yeah. No, I I I I still like the that
idea of the cross traffic, but um I'll

969
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:07,040
go with with the consent agenda. I'm
fine with it.

970
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:12,800
» Okay. Okay. So, we'll include it as a
consent agenda. Move on to our final

971
01:28:10,159 --> 01:28:18,320
study session item. Study session item
202614. Resolution approving a small

972
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:25,199
businessing
incentive agreement with Kyle Sporner.

973
01:28:22,639 --> 01:28:29,760
Probably turn it over.
>> Yes,

974
01:28:26,159 --> 01:28:36,480
» that's to me. Thank you. Um,
as you likely know, um, Kyle's Corner

975
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:42,080
has taken over the space that had been
formerly Industrial Donuts. Uh, he has

976
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:48,800
created a restaurant that will be
opening this week.

977
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:55,920
um officially and he has requested an
agreement with us for some advertising

978
01:28:51,679 --> 01:29:02,719
incentives. Um we are we've looked at
what he's requested. Um our only change

979
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:07,840
was the timeline. We he was requesting
six months uh before we he would get

980
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:13,920
reimbursed. We requested it uh we
changed that to being a year. uh he's

981
01:29:10,239 --> 01:29:18,719
requesting $5,000 and um from staff
perspective, this is the type of

982
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:24,800
incentive that we want uh to to be able
to help a new business come in and start

983
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:30,000
up. Uh it's reimbursement only. Um
receipts before reimbursement.

984
01:29:28,159 --> 01:29:33,679
We want to make sure that Seavoy is seen
as a a pro business community. So I

985
01:29:32,639 --> 01:29:37,360
believe this does that.
>> And in order to have to remain open for

986
01:29:36,480 --> 01:29:42,880
at least a year,
>> correct?

987
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:48,560
I think this is great. I think the um
there are a lot of um uh cautions in

988
01:29:46,480 --> 01:29:54,159
there about when to collect and this and
that. Um but I think the biggest part of

989
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:58,960
this in my mind is civily is pro
business and we're uh we like to help

990
01:29:56,960 --> 01:30:04,960
our small businesses and we encourage
small businesses. So it it solves a lot

991
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:11,440
of issues and and so I think it's great
>> and I I think from the perspective of uh

992
01:30:07,440 --> 01:30:16,719
myself um and and staff we we want to be
open to this type of um request so that

993
01:30:14,480 --> 01:30:20,960
we can look at you know what what are
the needs of our businesses and I

994
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:26,880
believe this helps address that. uh you
know we might not be able to you know

995
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:31,280
buy them a new stove or you know pay for
a year of their rent but this would be

996
01:30:28,480 --> 01:30:34,159
something uh that would be helpful and
>> that we can do

997
01:30:32,159 --> 01:30:37,840
» it promotes the boy when when it's
advertising because I mean that's

998
01:30:36,480 --> 01:30:44,880
» correct
>> yeah and if you haven't seen Kyle is

999
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:47,920
very good at promoting so
>> promotes

1000
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:50,560
» correct
Yeah.

1001
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:56,159
» Yes.
>> Any other questions?

1002
01:30:51,600 --> 01:31:03,000
» Would I It would make sense and I'm I'm
guessing I did not I I saw the the uh

1003
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:03,000
parameters.

1004
01:31:06,159 --> 01:31:13,679
» I missed one sentence. I'm good.
>> Okay. Super.

1005
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:19,199
» Any other question? I missed it.
I mean it's pretty good

1006
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:23,880
okay with consent agenda.
Okay. Well, we present on the consent

1007
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:23,880
agenda.

1008
01:31:25,679 --> 01:31:34,880
Uh well,
one of our u board members or trustees

1009
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:40,400
from the police and fire or the
retirement fire retirement system has

1010
01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:44,960
had to step down due to family issues.
Uh and they haven't been able to conduct

1011
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:51,360
business because the makeup of the board
we only have three people that qualify

1012
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:59,600
on quite we don't qualify because we
have no retired firefighters so we have

1013
01:31:54,480 --> 01:32:05,280
no other full firefighters chief so um
in order for them to conduct business

1014
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:09,760
Andy Bray talked to Andy Bray many of
you know him lieutenant

1015
01:32:08,639 --> 01:32:12,719
captain
>> captain

1016
01:32:10,239 --> 01:32:18,080
» captain fire department lived in our
community for years for years he's

1017
01:32:15,199 --> 01:32:22,639
interested
I'm going to bring

1018
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:28,159
from the board the appointment next
week. It would normally wait for the

1019
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:33,560
next one, but they've already had to
cancel

1020
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:33,560
meeting

1021
01:32:34,480 --> 01:32:41,400
that. Anybody have any?
>> I don't I would like to see a CV.

1022
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:51,080
» Any other
will be part of the agenda if the

1023
01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:51,080
interest

1024
01:32:53,760 --> 01:33:02,280
and then the other thing I meant to
mention during our

1025
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:02,280
comments

1026
01:33:07,679 --> 01:33:13,480
but it should enhance
our

1027
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:17,840
meetings and we'll also

1028
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:22,760
YouTube at the same time.

1029
01:33:26,239 --> 01:33:32,719
» I believe just YouTube, but I'm not the
IT guy. Is that accurate, Bernie? Yeah,

1030
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:37,080
just YouTube. Yeah,
>> HD quality.

1031
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:37,080
» HD.

1032
01:33:38,159 --> 01:33:41,480
» Oh my god.

1033
01:33:44,639 --> 01:33:53,120
out of it.
>> And any other new business? So only

1034
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:57,080
YouTube, no Facebook or YouTube.
>> Mine's not new business.

1035
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:09,480
» Now that I know.

1036
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:16,440
» Okay.
Now that I know everybody can see

1037
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:37,679
» just
if you could put on the list of things

1038
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:41,679
and I do this we're gonna write a check
to the rail starting

1039
01:34:42,719 --> 01:34:45,960
old church,

1040
01:34:52,639 --> 01:35:00,080
they're getting dropped. watching people
especially at church

1041
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:05,000
and you're going fast
>> and you want to get across the tracks

1042
01:35:01,679 --> 01:35:05,000
and you do

1043
01:35:07,440 --> 01:35:12,560
» I don't know what the criteria
>> we might wait on the Curtis because

1044
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:17,199
we're going to rip it out
>> focus on church

1045
01:35:15,199 --> 01:35:21,080
and I noticed airport the other day
actually the airport's

1046
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:24,120
actually

1047
01:35:24,159 --> 01:35:30,800
I think it's got less traffic. Uh but a
church is

1048
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:32,960
» church could use some attention and
since that won't be part of the actual

1049
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:40,000
construction,
>> right?

1050
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:43,840
» Getting them out to that red
>> and I think there folks locally do some

1051
01:35:42,719 --> 01:35:46,239
of that work. So
>> yeah,

1052
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:49,480
» I can check I can we can check.
>> Thank you.

1053
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:54,560
That's it.
>> I didn't realize we were going to be

1054
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:59,920
televis or posting this later on. No
wonder Wendy's been telling me to use

1055
01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:03,840
the mic and I since it wasn't going to
be posted, I haven't worried about it

1056
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:08,960
too much. But uh
but any other new business?

1057
01:36:06,480 --> 01:36:14,760
Okay, seeing no other new business, we
are done with our item. So, I'll declare

1058
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:14,760
journal.

1059
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:19,400
» Oh.

1060
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:25,800
Sorry, I missed the trustee remark.

1061
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:29,960
» Are there any trust?

1062
01:36:40,639 --> 01:36:44,440
» I need to do that.

1063
01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:48,719
» So now we can't call it back to work.

1064
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:06,639
I hope so, too.
>> Glad you're here.

1065
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:09,800
» I was worried you wouldn't be. So,
>> let's see.