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Nico should join you too

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, just so

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you know.

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Great, it's already 6:30. Greetings to

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everyone. This is the

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Pier 44 commission meeting. I see

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Athena, Nico, Howie,

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and Cory are here. We hope

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that Tracy and Patrice

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can join,

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but I declare a quorum

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. Allow me to read

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our

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Diversity,

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Equity, and Inclusion

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(DEI) statement. The Citywater Harbor Redevelopment Advisory

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Commission

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strives

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to ensure a

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respectful environment

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during meetings. We

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ask all

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participants

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to communicate

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politely, even if

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disagreements arise. We

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value the participation of our

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community and want

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all participants,

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including the

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marginalized and

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minorities, to feel

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welcome and

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respected. We

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ask that

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our committee members and

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all attendees

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adhere to these

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standards to

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support and

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respect our

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community. Perfectly. I

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sent the minutes of

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the meeting from February 5th.

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Ahem. Can I get

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a proposal for

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approval? Athena,

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I support. Are there

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any discussions?

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All those in favor, say

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yes. Paul, could

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you please hold a

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roll call to

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make this official?

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Athena?

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Yes, "yes".

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Howie?

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I can't vote.

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I wasn't at the

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meeting.

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Actually, you can.

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Oh, okay. "By". "

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Yes". Field, "for". Nico? "

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Yes."

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Great,

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approved then. Ahem. So,

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we're in an

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exciting time for

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Pier 44 Park. We... We're

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going to the board

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of selectmen next Tuesday for

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CPC funding approval. We

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will be at the town

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meeting on October 19th for

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this approval. If

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this is approved, we

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can move

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forward with tenders and

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direct

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construction. So we're

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really excited about this.

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Today we have a series of

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updates. We'll start

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with Corey and a review of the

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cost estimate. I

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just want to, before

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Corey turns on

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the microphone and gets on the

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line, express my

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sincere gratitude to Corey.

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She has worked with us

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from the beginning and

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has done a great

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job helping

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us develop this

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project and

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communicate with

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our citizens and

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people in the community. And we wouldn't be where

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we are

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without Corey's great work

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Oh, thank you, Paul. I still don't

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know why my

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camera isn't working, but I

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hope everyone can

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hear me.

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Yes, we hear.

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OK. So, so that we

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have clarity on

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where we

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are with the

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valuation. We

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received our

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final engineering and

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specifications from the

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engineer and

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landscape

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architect, the

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design team. And we

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used that to

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get a professional

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cost estimate from

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Alana, a firm that

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specializes in

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such estimates. The

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total estimated

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cost was

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over 6 million. With a

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design that protects from

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the sun and a dock for

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small boats. As well as

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all other

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elements of

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landscaping and

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planting.

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Embankment and all

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other planned

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facilities. When we

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approached the CPC, they did

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not support such

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large expenditures. So

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we had to

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revise the project and

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remove some things

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to reduce the price.

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The first thing we

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removed was the

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sunshade. Unfortunately,

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the savings from the above

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-ground part of

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the structure are less

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than what we would

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get from the

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foundation. Therefore,

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there is no point in building the

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foundation for this

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structure,

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hoping that

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later we can

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find funding

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to install its

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above-ground part. And

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this is a kind of design

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that required significant

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engineering

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calculations to

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support the

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structure, to

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design the foundation for it

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. So, to

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put the project up for

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bid, we need to

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redo the design, and

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the engineers need to

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redo the

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foundation. Then it

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doesn't have to be as

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massive as to

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support a large

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structure on top.

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This means that we

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cannot go to the auction

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with the plans we

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have now. We

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need to go back

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and ask

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the engineers to rework

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certain parts of

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the design. It will probably

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cost around

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$100,000 to

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rework part of the

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design, as well as

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rewriting the

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technical

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specifications. So,

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this is the current state with the

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cost estimate, but

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overall, without the

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solar structure, and without

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some plantings and

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landscaping elements, we

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can reduce the amount

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to 3.8 million. The CPC

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expressed full

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support for this

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decision. They

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voted unanimously to

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support

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construction at that

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price. So we currently

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have these

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results regarding

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our funding.

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So, at the city

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meeting, the city must

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approve the

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CPC's recommendation to

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spend these

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funds on

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construction. I expect

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to receive some

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grants. I

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applied for several of

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them. Em. One of them

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is called the

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Massachusetts

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Park Grant. It. I forget what the

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park's acronym stands for, but it's

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$100,000. So,

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hopefully, we

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will get this grant.

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Of course, we don't know

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for sure, but a

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representative of this

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program came

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to the facility. Paul and I

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met her on

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site, and she showed

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great

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interest in the

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project. So there are a

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few other grants that

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I can

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apply for or have already

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applied for. One of them is a

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grant for travel and

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tourism in

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Massachusetts. It

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is about

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$250,000. There is no

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news about

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him yet. The other

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grant is "Massachusetts One Stop,"

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and it's

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about $750,000.

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any of these

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grants, it would be a

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big help, but

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we don't know exactly

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when or if we will get

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them at all. Let's keep our

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fists together.

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Yes, and regarding the

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financial plan:

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I think everyone knows about it

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, but for

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the public who

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joins us:

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the grants received

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will reduce the amount of

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funding from the CPC.

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Dollar for dollar.

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Yes.

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And the estimate, Corey, does it

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include a bridge and

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...a floating dock for

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kayaks, non-motorized

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boats, etc.? So, this

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...

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Yes, it includes. So that's

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included.

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Support for this

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too.

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Yes, this is included in

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the estimate. Em. We

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may still

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have to

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reach out to

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the community

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for donations,

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like for park

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benches or something like that.

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In the past, the city has

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always been willing to

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respond to

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requests to install

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memorial benches.

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I think if we

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encourage people to

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donate money to the

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benches, they

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will respond quite

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well.

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Yes, we could also

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make name

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bricks. This is a great

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way to support

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the project and recognize

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the patrons. Corey and

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Paul, can I

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step in for a

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moment? I think, uh,

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one of the things that

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Corey outlined, which

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was a very important

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point, but I

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just wanted to

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support this—this is the

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foundation for the uh

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canopy. Uh, you know, I, I

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, I reluctantly

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agree with Corey that

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while I would have

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preferred to have

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this foundation

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remain in the plan, uh

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, in the hope of

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creating something in

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the future, I do

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agree with Corey that

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removing it right

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now, first of all,

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significantly reduces

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the cost of the plan

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before the vote.

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This will help us

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hope that we

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will cross the finish

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line and build the

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park. Uh, if, if

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we actually find ourselves

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in a situation in

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the future where

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we can consider, uh, an

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expensive addition

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like a canopy, or if

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we can find other

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hidden ways to

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do it,

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alternative ways,

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I think that, uh, you know

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, later on, first of all,

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if we have

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that surplus or that

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opportunity, we

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might be able to,

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you know, redo the

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foundation as well. Another

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thing is that in the future,

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if we do

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consider

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alternatives, they

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may still not be up

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to the

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foundation that we are

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going to lay.

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So perhaps it would have been

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designed with

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too much or

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too little

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safety margin, and it makes

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more sense

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to remove it now.

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So that was something I

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really wanted to see,

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but I think Corey is

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absolutely right about

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that. So, I just

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wanted to support this

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point. One more thing,

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Corey, you can write

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me down on my

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memorial bench

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right now.

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Okay, great. Thank you,

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Nico.

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Yeah, I would be

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interested, I'm sure,

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like you said, Corey,

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a lot of people in the

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community, they'll be

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very popular.

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Just for the record,

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I want to mention that

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Tracy Johnston has joined us.

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Thank you. Sorry. I have

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, I have a

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huge problem

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at home right now. So I'll be

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leaving the

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meeting periodically because my

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outdoor

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air conditioner unit sounds like it's about to

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explode. So,

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be careful and

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thank you for I

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apologize for this

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.

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Everything is fine. Uh, thank you. Are

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there any more questions for

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Corey regarding item

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five on the budget? Does

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anyone from

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the public have any

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00:13:04,017 --> 00:13:05,525
questions about this?

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It's nice to see, uh, the

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people who

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joined us tonight

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. Um,

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I think you should

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raise your hand so I

426
00:13:16,560 --> 00:13:18,006
can see you, but, uh,

427
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okay, I don't see anyone

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who wants to, so Tracy,

429
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Corey, you touched on the

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trading schedule,

431
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but maybe

432
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elaborate on that a little bit?

433
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Of course. When we

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get approval

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from the city council,

436
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which we will definitely

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get by a huge

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majority, I'm

439
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sure. Um, we'll

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have to

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go back to

442
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the engineers and

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landscape

444
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architects from the

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design team to

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just

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rework that

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part of the design a little bit. Um, and

449
00:13:56,693 --> 00:13:58,165
it will take them some

450
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time to do that. Uh

451
00:14:03,380 --> 00:14:04,733
, it won't take them

452
00:14:04,733 --> 00:14:05,867
long, but,

453
00:14:05,867 --> 00:14:07,220
you know, we have to

454
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do it. Um, and so once

455
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we have the

456
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final

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design ready without the shadow

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00:14:18,487 --> 00:14:19,442
construction, we

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can either

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try to put

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it out for a final

462
00:14:22,441 --> 00:14:23,694
cost estimate to

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see what stage we're at

464
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, or

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prepare a tender package

466
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. Um, and at

467
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this point we'll have to

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bring in an

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OPM, which is called a

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project manager

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from the owner. This is

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required by the state

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for procurement for

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projects costing

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over a million

476
00:14:46,565 --> 00:15:00,130
dollars. And, um, this

477
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project manager

478
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will act on our

479
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behalf with any

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contractor, they

481
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will manage the

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bidding process, and

483
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we will have to

484
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advertise it. I'm just

485
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thinking out loud

486
00:15:19,151 --> 00:15:19,768
about the

487
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procurement process for this.

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So it's quite difficult

489
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. We will have to

490
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announce this in the

491
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central registry

492
00:15:28,298 --> 00:15:30,992
and in the newspaper. So we have to

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put

494
00:15:32,105 --> 00:15:33,930
this in multiple places.

495
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So it

496
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will probably take a month

497
00:15:36,097 --> 00:15:37,321
or two to start

498
00:15:37,321 --> 00:15:38,055
getting

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00:15:38,055 --> 00:15:41,698
offers. Um, but

500
00:15:41,698 --> 00:15:43,144
once we do that,

501
00:15:43,144 --> 00:15:47,684
we can we can

502
00:15:47,684 --> 00:15:48,598
finally start

503
00:15:48,598 --> 00:15:49,577
scheduling

504
00:15:49,577 --> 00:15:55,634
construction. You know,

505
00:15:55,634 --> 00:15:56,568
we probably won't

506
00:15:56,568 --> 00:15:57,570
start any

507
00:15:57,570 --> 00:15:58,705
construction this

508
00:15:58,705 --> 00:16:02,445
year. Um, it'll probably

509
00:16:02,445 --> 00:16:03,524
be early

510
00:16:03,524 --> 00:16:05,116
next year.

511
00:16:05,116 --> 00:16:06,446
Okay, on that note,

512
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sorry to interrupt

513
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. Do we believe that

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the demolition

515
00:16:10,300 --> 00:16:11,484
will still be postponed to

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00:16:11,484 --> 00:16:12,669
next year, or is there a

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chance that the demolition

518
00:16:13,751 --> 00:16:15,037
will take place in late

519
00:16:15,037 --> 00:16:20,366
fall or winter?

520
00:16:20,366 --> 00:16:21,148
Um, I guess it

521
00:16:21,148 --> 00:16:22,100
would depend on

522
00:16:22,100 --> 00:16:23,426
the contractor, but we don't

523
00:16:23,426 --> 00:16:25,296
want to pay for

524
00:16:25,330 --> 00:16:26,486
equipment mobilization more than

525
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once.

526
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Mhm.

527
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So, um, it probably makes

528
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sense to just do it

529
00:16:33,551 --> 00:16:34,873
all at

530
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once. Um,

531
00:16:36,479 --> 00:16:38,047
of course. I, in most

532
00:16:38,047 --> 00:16:39,410
cases, agree

533
00:16:39,410 --> 00:16:40,568
because I want

534
00:16:40,568 --> 00:16:41,692
this project to be

535
00:16:41,692 --> 00:16:43,020
completed quickly and, you know,

536
00:16:43,020 --> 00:16:44,247
started as early as possible

537
00:16:44,247 --> 00:16:45,641
. I think you're

538
00:16:45,641 --> 00:16:47,390
right about the

539
00:16:47,427 --> 00:16:50,932
performance agreement. The other

540
00:16:50,932 --> 00:16:51,993
reason I

541
00:16:51,993 --> 00:16:53,205
ask is simply

542
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that the Pier 44 building

543
00:16:54,682 --> 00:16:55,667
, until we close it

544
00:16:55,667 --> 00:16:57,068
for the needs

545
00:16:57,068 --> 00:16:58,243
of the project, is still a

546
00:16:58,243 --> 00:16:59,720
semi-functional

547
00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:00,742
structure

548
00:17:00,742 --> 00:17:02,106
used by various

549
00:17:02,106 --> 00:17:03,356
departments, especially the

550
00:17:03,356 --> 00:17:04,757
Recreation Department, FACTS,

551
00:17:04,757 --> 00:17:10,211
and others. And so I know

552
00:17:10,211 --> 00:17:11,435
that both of these departments

553
00:17:11,435 --> 00:17:12,143
will be very

554
00:17:12,143 --> 00:17:13,302
interested in

555
00:17:13,302 --> 00:17:14,107
what happens after

556
00:17:14,107 --> 00:17:15,105
the vote and how

557
00:17:15,105 --> 00:17:16,264
soon it happens

558
00:17:16,264 --> 00:17:17,134
so that they can

559
00:17:17,134 --> 00:17:17,939
understand whether

560
00:17:17,939 --> 00:17:18,776
they will have the

561
00:17:18,776 --> 00:17:22,588
space in the winter.

562
00:17:22,588 --> 00:17:23,830
So, I know we

563
00:17:23,830 --> 00:17:25,105
can't answer

564
00:17:25,105 --> 00:17:26,184
this today, but I

565
00:17:26,184 --> 00:17:27,361
just wanted to

566
00:17:27,361 --> 00:17:28,972
mention it. When we

567
00:17:28,972 --> 00:17:29,635
get to

568
00:17:29,635 --> 00:17:30,431
the vote,

569
00:17:30,431 --> 00:17:31,161
hopefully

570
00:17:31,161 --> 00:17:32,289
cross the finish

571
00:17:32,289 --> 00:17:33,251
line and start

572
00:17:33,251 --> 00:17:34,379
moving forward, I

573
00:17:34,379 --> 00:17:35,341
think these two

574
00:17:35,341 --> 00:17:36,137
departments will be very

575
00:17:36,137 --> 00:17:37,364
eager to know

576
00:17:37,364 --> 00:17:38,326
if they can

577
00:17:38,326 --> 00:17:39,554
hold classes

578
00:17:39,554 --> 00:17:40,748
indoors in the middle of a

579
00:17:40,748 --> 00:17:42,700
cold winter.

580
00:17:42,700 --> 00:17:44,337
Oh yes.

581
00:17:44,337 --> 00:17:45,466
So it's worth considering

582
00:17:45,466 --> 00:17:46,595
keeping the

583
00:17:46,595 --> 00:17:47,853
council office informed so that

584
00:17:47,853 --> 00:17:48,499
when people

585
00:17:48,499 --> 00:17:49,660
ask about the

586
00:17:49,660 --> 00:17:50,692
rental or schedule,

587
00:17:50,692 --> 00:17:51,886
they know if

588
00:17:51,886 --> 00:17:54,307
it can be planned.

589
00:17:54,307 --> 00:17:56,806
Yes.

590
00:17:56,806 --> 00:17:57,668
We had a good

591
00:17:57,668 --> 00:17:58,307
conversation with

592
00:17:58,307 --> 00:17:59,585
council staff

593
00:17:59,585 --> 00:18:04,433
about what they...

594
00:18:04,433 --> 00:18:05,635
Made a list of all the

595
00:18:05,635 --> 00:18:07,008
people, organisations and

596
00:18:07,008 --> 00:18:07,592
groups that

597
00:18:07,592 --> 00:18:08,966
use the

598
00:18:08,966 --> 00:18:10,099
leisure centre, I

599
00:18:10,099 --> 00:18:11,267
mean the community

600
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centre. The Pier 44 building,

601
00:18:17,068 --> 00:18:18,386
and they also took the

602
00:18:18,386 --> 00:18:19,392
next step by

603
00:18:19,392 --> 00:18:20,121
identifying

604
00:18:20,121 --> 00:18:21,439
alternative locations

605
00:18:21,439 --> 00:18:22,723
for them, other city

606
00:18:22,723 --> 00:18:24,042
facilities, so that no one is

607
00:18:24,042 --> 00:18:24,944
left without a

608
00:18:24,944 --> 00:18:29,706
space.

609
00:18:29,706 --> 00:18:30,918
Nika, I know Nika

610
00:18:30,918 --> 00:18:31,835
asked about

611
00:18:31,835 --> 00:18:32,524
the possibility of

612
00:18:32,524 --> 00:18:33,605
holding yoga at the

613
00:18:33,605 --> 00:18:35,243
Maritime Center.

614
00:18:35,243 --> 00:18:39,944
True.

615
00:18:39,944 --> 00:18:40,941
On days when it is not

616
00:18:40,941 --> 00:18:41,657
rented

617
00:18:41,657 --> 00:18:42,904
by the public, they are

618
00:18:42,904 --> 00:18:44,119
not very welcome there

619
00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:45,022
, even though it is city

620
00:18:45,022 --> 00:18:49,644
property. So I'm not

621
00:18:49,644 --> 00:18:50,544
sure if you

622
00:18:50,544 --> 00:18:51,744
just need to be

623
00:18:51,744 --> 00:18:55,881
aware of this.

624
00:18:55,881 --> 00:18:57,086
So, again, in

625
00:18:57,086 --> 00:18:57,809
previous

626
00:18:57,809 --> 00:18:58,910
discussions, all the

627
00:18:58,910 --> 00:18:59,840
staff

628
00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,183
have identified other locations

629
00:19:01,183 --> 00:19:02,319
for all the groups that are

630
00:19:02,319 --> 00:19:02,766
currently

631
00:19:02,766 --> 00:19:03,765
using

632
00:19:03,765 --> 00:19:09,510
the building on Pier 44. And

633
00:19:09,510 --> 00:19:10,945
of course, there will be other

634
00:19:10,945 --> 00:19:12,220
events that can be

635
00:19:12,220 --> 00:19:13,615
held on Pier 44,

636
00:19:13,615 --> 00:19:15,210
you know, on the waterfront and

637
00:19:15,210 --> 00:19:19,568
so on. So, we

638
00:19:19,568 --> 00:19:20,752
are mindful of that and

639
00:19:20,752 --> 00:19:21,967
want to minimize the

640
00:19:21,967 --> 00:19:23,023
impact on these groups

641
00:19:23,023 --> 00:19:26,288
as much as possible.

642
00:19:26,288 --> 00:19:27,242
And again, we

643
00:19:27,242 --> 00:19:28,077
got a good

644
00:19:28,077 --> 00:19:28,852
response from the

645
00:19:28,852 --> 00:19:30,045
advisory

646
00:19:30,045 --> 00:19:33,704
board staff on this. Uh,

647
00:19:33,704 --> 00:19:34,921
to wrap up the question,

648
00:19:34,921 --> 00:19:36,105
let's talk

649
00:19:36,105 --> 00:19:36,632
about the

650
00:19:36,632 --> 00:19:40,046
financing plan. Corey,

651
00:19:40,046 --> 00:19:41,421
Nico, and I attended

652
00:19:41,421 --> 00:19:45,628
several CPC meetings.

653
00:19:45,628 --> 00:19:47,077
Also had separate

654
00:19:47,077 --> 00:19:54,122
meetings with the CPC, the

655
00:19:54,122 --> 00:19:55,229
president, the vice

656
00:19:55,229 --> 00:19:57,277
president, and the

657
00:19:57,311 --> 00:19:58,586
CFO of the advisory

658
00:19:58,586 --> 00:19:59,660
board, and developed a

659
00:19:59,660 --> 00:20:00,433
plan, which the CPC

660
00:20:00,433 --> 00:20:01,742
unanimously approved

661
00:20:01,742 --> 00:20:02,883
, as Corey mentioned, whereby

662
00:20:02,883 --> 00:20:04,092
the city would

663
00:20:04,092 --> 00:20:05,334
issue promissory notes in

664
00:20:05,334 --> 00:20:06,643
anticipation of the bonds

665
00:20:06,643 --> 00:20:12,811
. So, it would be a

666
00:20:12,811 --> 00:20:13,724
loan for

667
00:20:13,724 --> 00:20:22,065
several years. Payments

668
00:20:22,065 --> 00:20:23,427
will be made by CPC,

669
00:20:23,427 --> 00:20:24,516
and therefore for such an

670
00:20:24,516 --> 00:20:25,776
expensive project we will

671
00:20:25,776 --> 00:20:26,831
spread them out over

672
00:20:26,831 --> 00:20:28,091
several years so that it does

673
00:20:28,091 --> 00:20:29,146
not exhaust all

674
00:20:29,146 --> 00:20:30,473
CPC resources for our

675
00:20:30,473 --> 00:20:31,529
project to the detriment of

676
00:20:31,529 --> 00:20:32,346
other worthy

677
00:20:32,346 --> 00:20:39,295
projects. And again

678
00:20:39,295 --> 00:20:40,592
, a lot of good

679
00:20:40,592 --> 00:20:41,672
work with the CPC, very

680
00:20:41,672 --> 00:20:44,086
creative, and also with

681
00:20:44,122 --> 00:20:45,347
City Administrator Nancy Holt and the

682
00:20:45,347 --> 00:20:48,183
advisory board. So,

683
00:20:48,183 --> 00:20:49,168
this looks like a

684
00:20:49,168 --> 00:20:50,715
good plan. As I

685
00:20:50,715 --> 00:20:52,049
said, unanimous

686
00:20:52,049 --> 00:20:54,341
approval from the CPC.

687
00:20:54,341 --> 00:20:55,580
CPC's obligations, as

688
00:20:55,580 --> 00:20:56,613
we have already said,

689
00:20:56,613 --> 00:20:58,679
will be reduced as

690
00:20:58,714 --> 00:21:00,057
funds are received from other sources

691
00:21:00,057 --> 00:21:01,090
, including other

692
00:21:01,090 --> 00:21:04,656
grants. So, this is what

693
00:21:04,656 --> 00:21:05,551
we're going to

694
00:21:05,551 --> 00:21:06,798
town meeting with in October

695
00:21:06,798 --> 00:21:09,707
. Um, Corey and Nico,

696
00:21:09,707 --> 00:21:11,203
do you want to add anything to

697
00:21:11,203 --> 00:21:14,255
that?

698
00:21:14,255 --> 00:21:15,842
I actually have

699
00:21:15,842 --> 00:21:20,522
nothing. I think you

700
00:21:20,522 --> 00:21:21,863
described it very well

701
00:21:21,863 --> 00:21:23,171
, Paul, and obviously

702
00:21:23,171 --> 00:21:24,306
it allows the city

703
00:21:24,306 --> 00:21:25,579
to put the entire burden of

704
00:21:25,579 --> 00:21:26,887
paying for this project

705
00:21:26,887 --> 00:21:27,988
on CPC in a different way,

706
00:21:27,988 --> 00:21:29,295
to spread it out, which

707
00:21:29,295 --> 00:21:30,637
allows the city to take

708
00:21:30,637 --> 00:21:31,979
it out of other accounts and

709
00:21:31,979 --> 00:21:32,873
not burden

710
00:21:32,873 --> 00:21:34,250
the city budget, which I

711
00:21:34,250 --> 00:21:35,007
think is a

712
00:21:35,007 --> 00:21:36,211
win-win for all of

713
00:21:36,211 --> 00:21:37,346
our residents and

714
00:21:37,346 --> 00:21:38,619
taxpayers

715
00:21:38,619 --> 00:21:40,099
because CPC has

716
00:21:40,133 --> 00:21:41,234
funding available, and there

717
00:21:41,234 --> 00:21:42,335
will be more in the future

718
00:21:42,335 --> 00:21:43,402
that we don't

719
00:21:43,402 --> 00:21:44,537
always have somewhere to

720
00:21:44,537 --> 00:21:45,672
spend it right away,

721
00:21:45,672 --> 00:21:46,670
so this is a good

722
00:21:46,670 --> 00:21:53,684
way to do it. And

723
00:21:53,684 --> 00:21:54,936
secondly, I think

724
00:21:54,936 --> 00:21:55,749
this approach

725
00:21:55,749 --> 00:21:56,459
allows CPC

726
00:21:56,459 --> 00:21:57,779
to spread the costs,

727
00:21:57,779 --> 00:21:58,659
which will result in

728
00:21:58,659 --> 00:21:59,878
a small additional

729
00:21:59,878 --> 00:22:01,198
interest compared to

730
00:22:01,198 --> 00:22:02,315
paying for the project

731
00:22:02,315 --> 00:22:03,195
upfront; but we

732
00:22:03,195 --> 00:22:04,312
really can't

733
00:22:04,312 --> 00:22:05,361
pay for everything

734
00:22:05,361 --> 00:22:06,681
at once, you know, in one

735
00:22:06,681 --> 00:22:11,102
payment. And by

736
00:22:11,138 --> 00:22:12,515
redistributing resources a little bit,

737
00:22:12,515 --> 00:22:13,822
we'll be able to assign

738
00:22:13,822 --> 00:22:14,812
more other projects to the CPC

739
00:22:14,812 --> 00:22:16,083
, which I

740
00:22:16,083 --> 00:22:17,072
think is a valuable

741
00:22:17,072 --> 00:22:18,203
tool for the

742
00:22:18,203 --> 00:22:20,228
city. This will also have a

743
00:22:20,918 --> 00:22:21,981
positive impact on

744
00:22:21,981 --> 00:22:22,728
our credit

745
00:22:22,728 --> 00:22:23,379
rating in the long term.

746
00:22:23,379 --> 00:22:24,696
Yes, I understand that this has

747
00:22:24,696 --> 00:22:24,945
already

748
00:22:24,945 --> 00:22:26,191
been used

749
00:22:26,191 --> 00:22:27,680
for other CPC projects.

750
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:28,822
Corey, do you want

751
00:22:28,822 --> 00:22:30,680
to add anything?

752
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,165
No.

753
00:22:32,165 --> 00:22:33,207
OK. Do the

754
00:22:33,207 --> 00:22:34,274
commissioners have any

755
00:22:34,274 --> 00:22:38,826
questions about this?

756
00:22:38,826 --> 00:22:39,893
Does the public have any questions

757
00:22:39,893 --> 00:22:46,803
? I don't hear any

758
00:22:46,803 --> 00:22:50,558
questions. Let's move

759
00:22:50,558 --> 00:22:51,612
on, as we did

760
00:22:51,612 --> 00:22:52,634
before, to requesting

761
00:22:52,634 --> 00:22:53,912
letters of support that

762
00:22:53,912 --> 00:22:54,647
could be

763
00:22:54,647 --> 00:22:55,701
sent to the

764
00:22:55,701 --> 00:22:56,531
city council and also

765
00:22:56,531 --> 00:22:57,809
referenced

766
00:22:57,809 --> 00:23:02,066
during the city meeting.

767
00:23:02,066 --> 00:23:02,946
We have a letter from

768
00:23:02,946 --> 00:23:04,064
the Commission on

769
00:23:04,064 --> 00:23:05,485
Disability.

770
00:23:05,485 --> 00:23:07,355
We have a letter from the

771
00:23:07,388 --> 00:23:08,747
Recreation Commission. I know

772
00:23:08,747 --> 00:23:09,665
Gowrie is working on a

773
00:23:09,665 --> 00:23:10,298
letter from the

774
00:23:10,298 --> 00:23:11,374
Waterways Authority

775
00:23:11,374 --> 00:23:12,967
. I submitted a request

776
00:23:12,967 --> 00:23:13,763
to the

777
00:23:13,763 --> 00:23:14,630
Economic

778
00:23:14,630 --> 00:23:16,850
Development Commission. Patrice

779
00:23:16,850 --> 00:23:17,570
is busy

780
00:23:17,570 --> 00:23:20,500
receiving a number of

781
00:23:20,500 --> 00:23:21,894
other letters. People

782
00:23:21,894 --> 00:23:23,223
supported us

783
00:23:23,223 --> 00:23:24,314
during the previous

784
00:23:24,314 --> 00:23:26,800
CPC funding. I

785
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,135
will submit a letter on behalf of the

786
00:23:29,170 --> 00:23:31,914
Arts Commission. Are there

787
00:23:31,914 --> 00:23:33,080
any other updates or

788
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,178
questions about this

789
00:23:34,178 --> 00:23:44,188
? OK. Corey,

790
00:23:44,188 --> 00:23:45,248
let's discuss

791
00:23:45,248 --> 00:23:46,407
additional

792
00:23:46,407 --> 00:23:48,821
outreach. We

793
00:23:48,821 --> 00:23:50,102
want to hold another

794
00:23:50,102 --> 00:23:51,053
open

795
00:23:51,053 --> 00:23:52,005
meeting before the

796
00:23:52,005 --> 00:23:53,286
town meeting on

797
00:23:53,286 --> 00:23:55,224
October 19th. Can we

798
00:23:55,224 --> 00:23:58,912
discuss this?

799
00:23:58,912 --> 00:24:03,673
Yes. There is

800
00:24:03,673 --> 00:24:04,936
a lot of information being circulated right now

801
00:24:04,936 --> 00:24:06,268
, and it seems like

802
00:24:06,268 --> 00:24:07,636
people are a bit confused

803
00:24:07,636 --> 00:24:08,793
about what will be

804
00:24:08,793 --> 00:24:13,766
allowed in the park. Is it

805
00:24:13,766 --> 00:24:14,900
possible to

806
00:24:14,900 --> 00:24:16,588
park there? Why isn't this an

807
00:24:16,588 --> 00:24:17,817
Italian restaurant

808
00:24:17,817 --> 00:24:22,388
? Well, and much more.

809
00:24:22,388 --> 00:24:23,459
Why can't we

810
00:24:23,459 --> 00:24:24,811
have a pool there? Why

811
00:24:24,811 --> 00:24:25,965
can't you build a

812
00:24:25,965 --> 00:24:28,584
hockey rink?

813
00:24:28,584 --> 00:24:29,764
I think we need to

814
00:24:29,764 --> 00:24:31,043
clarify some things

815
00:24:31,043 --> 00:24:31,962
before the town

816
00:24:31,962 --> 00:24:37,566
meeting. Of course, we've

817
00:24:37,566 --> 00:24:38,699
discussed this

818
00:24:38,699 --> 00:24:39,893
at meetings before, but it's been a

819
00:24:39,893 --> 00:24:40,903
few

820
00:24:40,903 --> 00:24:42,618
years since the

821
00:24:42,648 --> 00:24:49,972
funding vote. I haven't

822
00:24:49,972 --> 00:24:51,100
picked a date yet, but we'll

823
00:24:51,100 --> 00:24:52,360
probably do it

824
00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:53,289
at the library, in the

825
00:24:53,289 --> 00:24:54,516
community room

826
00:24:54,516 --> 00:25:10,110
downstairs. We will

827
00:25:10,110 --> 00:25:11,806
also prepare

828
00:25:12,510 --> 00:25:13,405
FAQ documents and

829
00:25:13,405 --> 00:25:14,685
handouts

830
00:25:14,685 --> 00:25:15,676
for people that we

831
00:25:15,676 --> 00:25:16,956
can distribute

832
00:25:16,956 --> 00:25:17,884
during town

833
00:25:17,884 --> 00:25:19,067
meetings or post in advance

834
00:25:19,067 --> 00:25:20,251
in various

835
00:25:20,251 --> 00:25:21,274
locations; These will be

836
00:25:21,274 --> 00:25:22,074
explanatory

837
00:25:22,074 --> 00:25:23,322
information sheets

838
00:25:23,322 --> 00:25:24,217
that will help

839
00:25:24,217 --> 00:25:25,465
remind us of the history of the

840
00:25:25,465 --> 00:25:26,137
large-scale

841
00:25:26,137 --> 00:25:27,064
educational

842
00:25:27,064 --> 00:25:28,120
work we have already

843
00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:29,336
carried out over the past 16

844
00:25:29,336 --> 00:25:45,157
years. So, just to

845
00:25:45,157 --> 00:25:46,180
refresh

846
00:25:46,180 --> 00:25:47,435
people's memory, this is an issue

847
00:25:47,435 --> 00:25:48,227
that has been consistently

848
00:25:48,227 --> 00:25:49,283
supported in the

849
00:25:49,283 --> 00:25:53,366
past. Especially the

850
00:25:53,366 --> 00:25:58,188
parking issue. I

851
00:25:58,188 --> 00:25:59,922
think this is something that has

852
00:25:59,956 --> 00:26:01,112
come up quite often over the

853
00:26:01,112 --> 00:26:02,302
years during

854
00:26:02,302 --> 00:26:02,982
our

855
00:26:02,982 --> 00:26:07,299
design process. The one

856
00:26:07,299 --> 00:26:12,272
thing people don't

857
00:26:12,272 --> 00:26:13,498
quite understand is that there

858
00:26:13,498 --> 00:26:14,725
really

859
00:26:14,725 --> 00:26:15,305
can't be a

860
00:26:15,305 --> 00:26:16,177
parking

861
00:26:16,177 --> 00:26:17,338
lot there because

862
00:26:17,338 --> 00:26:19,371
it's restricted by the terms of the title deed

863
00:26:19,403 --> 00:26:23,720
. When the city

864
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:24,564
purchased this

865
00:26:24,564 --> 00:26:26,600
property in 2010, the

866
00:26:26,638 --> 00:26:28,520
funding source was

867
00:26:30,094 --> 00:26:35,830
MBTA compensatory measures funds. And this

868
00:26:35,830 --> 00:26:37,822
was accompanied by a

869
00:26:37,854 --> 00:26:39,042
land use restriction

870
00:26:39,042 --> 00:26:40,070
that was attached to it

871
00:26:40,070 --> 00:26:46,659
. Therefore, this

872
00:26:46,659 --> 00:26:47,781
property should

873
00:26:47,781 --> 00:26:48,903
be used as

874
00:26:48,903 --> 00:26:49,993
open space,

875
00:26:49,993 --> 00:26:50,803
for viewing

876
00:26:50,803 --> 00:26:51,551
platforms,

877
00:26:51,551 --> 00:26:52,798
recreation, or education;

878
00:26:52,798 --> 00:26:54,013
Parking can

879
00:26:54,013 --> 00:26:54,948
only be an auxiliary

880
00:26:54,948 --> 00:26:55,976
element to these

881
00:26:55,976 --> 00:26:56,849
main

882
00:26:56,849 --> 00:26:57,908
activities, but

883
00:26:57,908 --> 00:26:58,999
cannot be the main

884
00:26:58,999 --> 00:27:00,214
purpose of the site

885
00:27:00,214 --> 00:27:06,439
.

886
00:27:06,439 --> 00:27:07,049
True.

887
00:27:07,049 --> 00:27:08,273
And we discussed this

888
00:27:08,273 --> 00:27:09,529
at the city council as well

889
00:27:09,529 --> 00:27:13,154
. So, he

890
00:27:13,154 --> 00:27:14,472
Who else agrees with

891
00:27:14,472 --> 00:27:15,699
this interpretation?

892
00:27:15,699 --> 00:27:20,227
That's right. Yes.

893
00:27:20,227 --> 00:27:21,187
I think I

894
00:27:21,187 --> 00:27:22,554
will give a short

895
00:27:22,554 --> 00:27:23,662
presentation at the

896
00:27:23,662 --> 00:27:24,881
town meeting at

897
00:27:24,881 --> 00:27:26,248
the request of the CPC, and also, I

898
00:27:26,248 --> 00:27:27,283
think, at our

899
00:27:27,283 --> 00:27:32,044
open meeting.

900
00:27:32,044 --> 00:27:33,306
As Corey said, we

901
00:27:33,306 --> 00:27:34,682
want to go back

902
00:27:34,682 --> 00:27:36,135
in history and provide

903
00:27:36,135 --> 00:27:37,665
context for those who

904
00:27:37,665 --> 00:27:39,157
may not have been following

905
00:27:39,157 --> 00:27:42,934
this since 2010. And

906
00:27:42,934 --> 00:27:43,913
to touch on these

907
00:27:43,913 --> 00:27:49,025
issues. We have also

908
00:27:49,025 --> 00:27:49,941
made significant

909
00:27:49,941 --> 00:27:50,583
efforts to

910
00:27:50,583 --> 00:27:51,285
provide

911
00:27:51,285 --> 00:27:52,201
parking near the

912
00:27:52,201 --> 00:27:53,393
park on Jericho Road

913
00:27:53,393 --> 00:27:54,461
, and have also identified

914
00:27:54,461 --> 00:27:55,683
the possibility of creating

915
00:27:55,683 --> 00:27:56,813
additional spaces on the

916
00:27:56,813 --> 00:27:58,004
grassy area

917
00:27:58,004 --> 00:28:02,060
near the pier.

918
00:28:02,060 --> 00:28:03,056
So, it will be a

919
00:28:03,056 --> 00:28:04,119
block from there.

920
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,956
It seems there are about

921
00:28:05,956 --> 00:28:07,697
32 seats. I think that's

922
00:28:07,697 --> 00:28:11,725
pretty good. So,

923
00:28:11,725 --> 00:28:12,445
of course, we

924
00:28:12,445 --> 00:28:13,777
will inform everyone about the

925
00:28:13,777 --> 00:28:15,181
date we choose for

926
00:28:15,181 --> 00:28:16,189
this public

927
00:28:16,189 --> 00:28:22,609
meeting. And one more thing:

928
00:28:22,609 --> 00:28:23,881
through your contact

929
00:28:23,881 --> 00:28:24,891
committees, just

930
00:28:24,891 --> 00:28:25,967
friends and neighbors,

931
00:28:25,967 --> 00:28:27,271
spread information

932
00:28:27,271 --> 00:28:28,021
about the project and

933
00:28:28,021 --> 00:28:29,064
encourage people

934
00:28:29,064 --> 00:28:30,010
to come to the

935
00:28:30,010 --> 00:28:31,281
town meeting and support

936
00:28:31,281 --> 00:28:35,701
it. Um, we're also

937
00:28:35,701 --> 00:28:37,025
open to, if there are any

938
00:28:37,025 --> 00:28:38,241
groups that you

939
00:28:38,241 --> 00:28:39,243
think would like to have a

940
00:28:39,243 --> 00:28:40,638
presentation

941
00:28:40,638 --> 00:28:41,711
, we'd be happy to

942
00:28:41,711 --> 00:28:42,676
do that, as we have in the

943
00:28:42,676 --> 00:28:45,536
past. So, are there

944
00:28:45,536 --> 00:28:46,949
any more questions about

945
00:28:46,949 --> 00:28:50,580
this? Okay, we're

946
00:28:50,580 --> 00:28:51,924
moving on to the

947
00:28:51,924 --> 00:28:55,581
commissioners' reports. Uh, Athena, do

948
00:28:55,581 --> 00:28:57,099
you have anything to report? You did a

949
00:28:57,099 --> 00:28:58,249
great job with

950
00:28:58,249 --> 00:28:59,531
the letter of support from the

951
00:28:59,531 --> 00:29:01,982
commission. Really

952
00:29:01,982 --> 00:29:03,293
good. I sent it to

953
00:29:03,293 --> 00:29:04,126
everyone.

954
00:29:04,126 --> 00:29:05,363
I didn't write this

955
00:29:05,363 --> 00:29:07,344
letter. I just started

956
00:29:07,344 --> 00:29:08,504
the draft, and Megan

957
00:29:08,504 --> 00:29:09,773
Summer continued,

958
00:29:09,773 --> 00:29:11,114
she's the chair, so all the

959
00:29:11,114 --> 00:29:12,140
credit goes to her.

960
00:29:12,140 --> 00:29:15,530
Got it.

961
00:29:15,530 --> 00:29:17,030
Um, no, uh, I was talking

962
00:29:17,030 --> 00:29:18,493
to Corey about, uh,

963
00:29:18,493 --> 00:29:19,955
I don't know if I'd call

964
00:29:19,955 --> 00:29:21,187
it education, but

965
00:29:21,187 --> 00:29:22,418
education is really

966
00:29:22,418 --> 00:29:23,842
important for the people of

967
00:29:23,842 --> 00:29:25,035
the city, because people don't

968
00:29:25,035 --> 00:29:26,498
remember what happened 16

969
00:29:26,498 --> 00:29:33,331
years ago. And many

970
00:29:33,331 --> 00:29:34,824
people in

971
00:29:34,857 --> 00:29:35,928
leadership positions

972
00:29:35,928 --> 00:29:37,097
constantly raise the

973
00:29:37,097 --> 00:29:43,678
issue of parking.

974
00:29:43,678 --> 00:29:45,138
So I just think

975
00:29:45,138 --> 00:29:46,562
educating people, like we

976
00:29:46,562 --> 00:29:47,877
talked about with, oh my

977
00:29:47,877 --> 00:29:49,337
god, the MVP 2.0 program with

978
00:29:49,337 --> 00:29:50,761
Danielle Dolan and Corey

979
00:29:50,761 --> 00:29:51,929
, educating them so that

980
00:29:51,929 --> 00:29:52,879
people know what's

981
00:29:52,879 --> 00:29:54,120
going on, not on

982
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,544
the night of the town meeting, but

983
00:29:55,544 --> 00:29:57,005
in advance while it's

984
00:29:57,005 --> 00:30:01,836
going on.

985
00:30:01,836 --> 00:30:03,061
Of course, and to motivate

986
00:30:03,061 --> 00:30:04,320
them to come to the meeting and

987
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:05,223
support this

988
00:30:05,223 --> 00:30:09,297
project. Thank you, Athena.

989
00:30:09,297 --> 00:30:10,030
Thank you.

990
00:30:10,030 --> 00:30:11,215
Tracy, do you have

991
00:30:11,215 --> 00:30:12,436
anything to report?

992
00:30:12,436 --> 00:30:13,652
No, uh, you got

993
00:30:13,652 --> 00:30:14,865
our letter, right?

994
00:30:14,865 --> 00:30:16,068
Yes, a wonderful letter.

995
00:30:16,068 --> 00:30:16,637
Good.

996
00:30:16,637 --> 00:30:18,103
Yes. Thank you for that.

997
00:30:18,103 --> 00:30:19,180
Howie?

998
00:30:19,180 --> 00:30:20,102
Just waiting for the

999
00:30:20,102 --> 00:30:21,119
next

1000
00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:22,264
waterways meeting,

1001
00:30:22,264 --> 00:30:23,217
which will be held on

1002
00:30:23,217 --> 00:30:25,422
the first Wednesday in October.

1003
00:30:25,422 --> 00:30:26,618
There were a few questions,

1004
00:30:26,618 --> 00:30:27,349
but the commission

1005
00:30:27,349 --> 00:30:30,842
is very, positive. They

1006
00:30:30,842 --> 00:30:31,969
only had technical

1007
00:30:31,969 --> 00:30:32,742
questions about

1008
00:30:32,742 --> 00:30:34,030
funding and

1009
00:30:34,030 --> 00:30:34,931
how it would affect the

1010
00:30:34,931 --> 00:30:35,736
funding of the

1011
00:30:35,736 --> 00:30:36,896
projects

1012
00:30:36,896 --> 00:30:41,048
we are currently working on.

1013
00:30:41,048 --> 00:30:42,164
So I suspect

1014
00:30:42,164 --> 00:30:43,417
they will all agree

1015
00:30:43,417 --> 00:30:44,364
to send a letter of

1016
00:30:44,364 --> 00:30:45,684
support, and that is now

1017
00:30:45,684 --> 00:30:47,004
in the hands of Dave Janin

1018
00:30:47,004 --> 00:30:51,599
, the chairman.

1019
00:30:51,599 --> 00:30:52,759
Yes, I am very grateful to

1020
00:30:52,759 --> 00:30:54,119
our

1021
00:30:54,152 --> 00:30:55,346
City Administrator Nancy Hall for her

1022
00:30:55,346 --> 00:30:56,009
help in

1023
00:30:56,009 --> 00:30:57,303
organizing the meeting

1024
00:30:57,303 --> 00:30:58,132
so that we could

1025
00:30:58,132 --> 00:30:58,994
discuss these

1026
00:30:58,994 --> 00:31:00,188
issues, and I think

1027
00:31:00,188 --> 00:31:01,117
it was very

1028
00:31:01,117 --> 00:31:04,238
productive. Nico, do

1029
00:31:04,238 --> 00:31:05,284
you have something to

1030
00:31:05,284 --> 00:31:07,123
report?

1031
00:31:07,123 --> 00:31:08,961
Sorry. What do I want? Is

1032
00:31:08,961 --> 00:31:10,313
there any report

1033
00:31:10,313 --> 00:31:11,703
you would like to provide?

1034
00:31:11,703 --> 00:31:12,929
Not quite. I

1035
00:31:12,929 --> 00:31:14,080
mean, I think

1036
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,362
we're fine, except for what

1037
00:31:15,362 --> 00:31:16,611
we just

1038
00:31:16,611 --> 00:31:17,941
talked about. I believe that

1039
00:31:17,941 --> 00:31:18,582
the importance of

1040
00:31:18,582 --> 00:31:19,467
educational

1041
00:31:19,467 --> 00:31:20,444
work cannot be

1042
00:31:20,444 --> 00:31:24,009
overstated. I have

1043
00:31:24,009 --> 00:31:25,330
real optimism that

1044
00:31:25,330 --> 00:31:26,395
we

1045
00:31:26,395 --> 00:31:27,863
will see this through to the

1046
00:31:27,863 --> 00:31:29,184
end, and I can

1047
00:31:29,184 --> 00:31:30,322
support it 100% at

1048
00:31:30,322 --> 00:31:35,469
every stage. I'm

1049
00:31:35,469 --> 00:31:36,262
worried about

1050
00:31:36,262 --> 00:31:37,632
public opinion because

1051
00:31:37,632 --> 00:31:38,389
people no longer

1052
00:31:38,389 --> 00:31:39,724
remember what

1053
00:31:39,724 --> 00:31:44,625
happened 16 years ago. I

1054
00:31:44,625 --> 00:31:45,806
remember it quite

1055
00:31:45,806 --> 00:31:46,856
clearly, although sometimes the

1056
00:31:46,856 --> 00:31:48,103
details get blurred, and

1057
00:31:48,103 --> 00:31:49,251
I think it's important to

1058
00:31:49,251 --> 00:31:50,465
briefly recount this

1059
00:31:50,465 --> 00:31:51,745
story to show

1060
00:31:51,745 --> 00:31:52,992
how complicated

1061
00:31:52,992 --> 00:31:53,976
the process was and

1062
00:31:53,976 --> 00:31:54,960
how nearly

1063
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,043
impossible any

1064
00:31:56,043 --> 00:32:05,885
other option was.

1065
00:32:05,885 --> 00:32:07,174
In addition, I believe

1066
00:32:07,174 --> 00:32:07,886
that we should

1067
00:32:07,886 --> 00:32:09,243
focus on

1068
00:32:09,243 --> 00:32:10,566
how reliable the

1069
00:32:10,566 --> 00:32:11,889
budget is, how this project

1070
00:32:11,889 --> 00:32:13,246
through the CPC does not affect

1071
00:32:13,246 --> 00:32:14,230
this year's budget or

1072
00:32:14,230 --> 00:32:15,519
next year's, and does not

1073
00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:16,469
affect any

1074
00:32:16,469 --> 00:32:17,759
financial discussions

1075
00:32:17,759 --> 00:32:28,908
in the city. I would try

1076
00:32:28,908 --> 00:32:29,959
not to use the word "

1077
00:32:29,959 --> 00:32:31,207
overrun" during

1078
00:32:31,207 --> 00:32:32,258
this conversation, but

1079
00:32:32,258 --> 00:32:33,210
if this issue

1080
00:32:33,210 --> 00:32:34,392
arises, we should

1081
00:32:34,392 --> 00:32:35,673
make it clear that this will

1082
00:32:35,673 --> 00:32:36,921
not affect the decision

1083
00:32:36,921 --> 00:32:37,972
on the

1084
00:32:37,972 --> 00:32:44,725
budget overrun in April. This is a

1085
00:32:44,725 --> 00:32:45,634
completely separate

1086
00:32:45,634 --> 00:32:46,608
project that

1087
00:32:46,608 --> 00:32:47,647
has been in the works for many

1088
00:32:47,647 --> 00:32:48,492
years; it has

1089
00:32:48,492 --> 00:32:49,498
support and will be

1090
00:32:49,498 --> 00:32:50,278
placed within a

1091
00:32:50,278 --> 00:32:51,577
financial framework that

1092
00:32:51,577 --> 00:32:52,875
takes it beyond the

1093
00:32:52,875 --> 00:32:57,122
topic of overshoot. I would

1094
00:32:57,122 --> 00:32:58,244
n't be the first to mention this

1095
00:32:58,244 --> 00:32:59,531
, but I'm sure the

1096
00:32:59,531 --> 00:33:00,785
issue will come up,

1097
00:33:00,785 --> 00:33:01,709
and we should be

1098
00:33:01,709 --> 00:33:02,501
prepared to clearly

1099
00:33:02,501 --> 00:33:03,425
defend our

1100
00:33:03,425 --> 00:33:04,481
position so that people

1101
00:33:04,481 --> 00:33:05,735
understand the point, because

1102
00:33:05,735 --> 00:33:06,560
this could become a

1103
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:07,715
major topic for

1104
00:33:07,715 --> 00:33:11,692
discussion. Will

1105
00:33:11,692 --> 00:33:12,588
we have to

1106
00:33:12,588 --> 00:33:13,835
buy very expensive

1107
00:33:13,835 --> 00:33:15,114
weed and pay for it

1108
00:33:15,114 --> 00:33:21,302
with our taxes? I

1109
00:33:21,302 --> 00:33:22,542
think it's important

1110
00:33:22,542 --> 00:33:23,782
to understand: to have a

1111
00:33:23,782 --> 00:33:25,132
great city to

1112
00:33:25,132 --> 00:33:27,539
live in, we've been paying taxes for 50 years

1113
00:33:27,576 --> 00:33:28,743
, and there are

1114
00:33:28,743 --> 00:33:37,269
good reasons for that. We

1115
00:33:37,269 --> 00:33:37,830
need to

1116
00:33:37,830 --> 00:33:38,654
polish

1117
00:33:38,654 --> 00:33:39,841
the wording because we

1118
00:33:39,841 --> 00:33:41,060
know the city has to

1119
00:33:41,060 --> 00:33:42,115
vote at the

1120
00:33:42,115 --> 00:33:42,906
meeting, and we

1121
00:33:42,906 --> 00:33:44,027
need people to

1122
00:33:44,027 --> 00:33:45,247
vote "yes"

1123
00:33:45,247 --> 00:33:46,467
understanding that this is not

1124
00:33:46,467 --> 00:33:47,719
just expensive grass,

1125
00:33:47,719 --> 00:33:49,038
but a quality waterfront and

1126
00:33:49,038 --> 00:33:54,077
ecology. These are exactly the

1127
00:33:54,077 --> 00:33:55,227
things we should

1128
00:33:55,227 --> 00:33:56,409
finalize before the

1129
00:33:56,409 --> 00:33:57,690
October meeting,

1130
00:33:57,690 --> 00:33:58,938
and I believe we have

1131
00:33:58,938 --> 00:34:00,021
all the arguments to

1132
00:34:00,021 --> 00:34:00,678
defend and

1133
00:34:00,678 --> 00:34:01,729
promote our

1134
00:34:01,729 --> 00:34:02,915
idea. I am so grateful to

1135
00:34:02,915 --> 00:34:03,910
Corey, Paul, and everyone

1136
00:34:03,910 --> 00:34:04,642
who worked so hard

1137
00:34:04,642 --> 00:34:05,637
for a

1138
00:34:05,637 --> 00:34:06,485
long time,

1139
00:34:06,485 --> 00:34:07,627
much longer than I have,

1140
00:34:07,627 --> 00:34:08,798
to see this thing through

1141
00:34:08,798 --> 00:34:10,115
to the finish line. So I'm very

1142
00:34:10,115 --> 00:34:11,962
confident. Um, but

1143
00:34:11,962 --> 00:34:13,281
we're all, you know, none of

1144
00:34:13,281 --> 00:34:15,256
us are blind. We are all

1145
00:34:15,256 --> 00:34:16,290
living in difficult

1146
00:34:16,290 --> 00:34:17,625
economic times, our

1147
00:34:17,625 --> 00:34:18,626
city is going

1148
00:34:18,626 --> 00:34:19,961
through them, and fortunately

1149
00:34:19,961 --> 00:34:21,129
we have a very good

1150
00:34:21,129 --> 00:34:21,897
team to

1151
00:34:21,897 --> 00:34:22,764
help us

1152
00:34:22,764 --> 00:34:24,032
stay ahead of these kinds of

1153
00:34:24,032 --> 00:34:25,282
things. This is a project that

1154
00:34:25,282 --> 00:34:26,070
we absolutely

1155
00:34:26,070 --> 00:34:26,646
need to

1156
00:34:26,646 --> 00:34:27,804
implement. I will be

1157
00:34:27,804 --> 00:34:28,855
more than happy to

1158
00:34:28,855 --> 00:34:29,966
come forward and say

1159
00:34:29,966 --> 00:34:30,927
this in person when the

1160
00:34:30,927 --> 00:34:32,399
time comes. Um, that's actually how

1161
00:34:32,399 --> 00:34:33,422
I

1162
00:34:33,422 --> 00:34:35,514
feel about it.

1163
00:34:35,514 --> 00:34:36,415
I appreciate it.

1164
00:34:36,415 --> 00:34:37,328
I had one

1165
00:34:37,328 --> 00:34:38,517
question, Nico, because what

1166
00:34:38,517 --> 00:34:39,644
you said just

1167
00:34:39,644 --> 00:34:40,649
reminded me of

1168
00:34:40,649 --> 00:34:41,817
something. A lot of people

1169
00:34:41,817 --> 00:34:42,743
are asking, and this will

1170
00:34:42,743 --> 00:34:43,636
come up either at the

1171
00:34:43,636 --> 00:34:44,926
informational meeting

1172
00:34:44,926 --> 00:34:46,216
or at the town meeting:

1173
00:34:46,216 --> 00:34:47,439
will the Department of

1174
00:34:47,439 --> 00:34:48,762
Public Works (DPW)

1175
00:34:48,762 --> 00:34:49,953
service this, and

1176
00:34:49,953 --> 00:34:51,243
if not, what is the plan,

1177
00:34:51,243 --> 00:34:52,565
because they don't want it to

1178
00:34:52,565 --> 00:34:53,888
become a dog park again

1179
00:34:53,888 --> 00:34:56,476
. So, this is

1180
00:34:56,476 --> 00:34:58,412
going to be a huge

1181
00:34:58,446 --> 00:35:00,248
maintenance issue.

1182
00:35:00,248 --> 00:35:03,630
Yes. Uh, so first of all,

1183
00:35:03,630 --> 00:35:04,415
let me

1184
00:35:04,415 --> 00:35:05,533
say that I will have a

1185
00:35:05,533 --> 00:35:06,650
much clearer and more

1186
00:35:06,650 --> 00:35:07,828
definitive answer

1187
00:35:07,828 --> 00:35:08,976
when it comes time for the

1188
00:35:08,976 --> 00:35:10,093
public hearings and the

1189
00:35:10,093 --> 00:35:11,210
October meeting,

1190
00:35:11,210 --> 00:35:12,207
because I want to

1191
00:35:12,207 --> 00:35:13,143
make sure that

1192
00:35:13,143 --> 00:35:14,230
I speak more clearly than I

1193
00:35:14,230 --> 00:35:15,016
can tonight

1194
00:35:15,016 --> 00:35:15,569
.

1195
00:35:15,569 --> 00:35:16,811
No, no, and I don't expect

1196
00:35:16,811 --> 00:35:18,150
any answer. I

1197
00:35:18,150 --> 00:35:19,275
just know this

1198
00:35:19,275 --> 00:35:20,399
question will come up.

1199
00:35:20,399 --> 00:35:22,160
100%. I think this

1200
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:22,839
will be just as

1201
00:35:22,839 --> 00:35:24,170
relevant as the

1202
00:35:24,197 --> 00:35:25,256
budget overrun issue,

1203
00:35:25,256 --> 00:35:26,180
which is likely

1204
00:35:26,180 --> 00:35:29,352
to be raised. I

1205
00:35:29,352 --> 00:35:30,685
think the

1206
00:35:30,685 --> 00:35:32,053
dog park question

1207
00:35:32,053 --> 00:35:33,317
could very well come up like this

1208
00:35:33,317 --> 00:35:35,539
, and I hope I have the

1209
00:35:35,573 --> 00:35:36,804
arguments to give a

1210
00:35:36,804 --> 00:35:38,171
very clear, concise,

1211
00:35:38,171 --> 00:35:39,539
and direct answer to

1212
00:35:39,539 --> 00:35:45,228
it. I don't want to

1213
00:35:45,228 --> 00:35:46,543
make a mistake

1214
00:35:46,543 --> 00:35:47,857
tonight, unless

1215
00:35:47,857 --> 00:35:48,791
Corey wants to

1216
00:35:48,791 --> 00:35:49,932
support me in

1217
00:35:49,932 --> 00:35:50,866
what we've already

1218
00:35:50,866 --> 00:35:52,215
put into this process,

1219
00:35:52,215 --> 00:35:53,529
but DPW will play

1220
00:35:53,529 --> 00:35:54,324
a role in the

1221
00:35:54,324 --> 00:35:55,569
regular things like

1222
00:35:55,569 --> 00:35:58,288
trash collection and so on.

1223
00:35:58,288 --> 00:35:59,796
As for maintenance,

1224
00:35:59,796 --> 00:36:01,227
i.e. grass cutting,

1225
00:36:01,227 --> 00:36:02,465
etc., DPW, I believe,

1226
00:36:02,465 --> 00:36:03,780
plans to do

1227
00:36:03,780 --> 00:36:04,708
all the normal

1228
00:36:04,708 --> 00:36:05,869
weekly summer

1229
00:36:05,869 --> 00:36:08,656
maintenance. But when

1230
00:36:08,656 --> 00:36:09,876
you talk about—and this is

1231
00:36:09,876 --> 00:36:10,878
important to me,

1232
00:36:10,878 --> 00:36:11,942
so I'm glad you

1233
00:36:11,942 --> 00:36:12,974
asked—when you

1234
00:36:12,974 --> 00:36:13,725
talk about

1235
00:36:13,725 --> 00:36:14,570
long-term

1236
00:36:14,570 --> 00:36:18,237
care. So,

1237
00:36:18,237 --> 00:36:19,558
you know, will anyone be

1238
00:36:19,558 --> 00:36:20,541
pressure washing the

1239
00:36:20,541 --> 00:36:21,693
memorial benches

1240
00:36:21,693 --> 00:36:26,366
in 10 years? Will

1241
00:36:26,366 --> 00:36:28,490
someone, you know, make sure that

1242
00:36:29,805 --> 00:36:30,614
all the broken

1243
00:36:30,614 --> 00:36:34,340
synthetic parts on the embankment are replaced? Well

1244
00:36:34,340 --> 00:36:39,547
, things of that sort.

1245
00:36:39,547 --> 00:36:40,511
This is a very valid

1246
00:36:40,511 --> 00:36:42,798
question, and it is extremely important to me

1247
00:36:42,834 --> 00:36:43,692
to perform better in the

1248
00:36:43,692 --> 00:36:44,799
next 20 years

1249
00:36:44,799 --> 00:36:45,586
than in the

1250
00:36:45,586 --> 00:36:46,979
previous 20. I am

1251
00:36:46,979 --> 00:36:48,409
not blaming anyone, I

1252
00:36:48,409 --> 00:36:49,481
am just trying to better

1253
00:36:49,481 --> 00:36:50,303
consider

1254
00:36:50,303 --> 00:36:51,267
long-term

1255
00:36:51,267 --> 00:36:52,411
maintenance in

1256
00:36:52,411 --> 00:36:57,483
our designs. So

1257
00:36:57,483 --> 00:36:58,653
Corey, I'm going to ask

1258
00:36:58,653 --> 00:37:03,619
you to check me out here.

1259
00:37:03,619 --> 00:37:04,855
Currently, the current

1260
00:37:04,855 --> 00:37:05,902
project budget does not

1261
00:37:05,902 --> 00:37:06,441
take into account

1262
00:37:06,441 --> 00:37:07,297
long-term

1263
00:37:07,297 --> 00:37:08,217
maintenance of

1264
00:37:08,217 --> 00:37:16,966
the facility. I guess

1265
00:37:16,966 --> 00:37:18,337
partly because we have

1266
00:37:18,337 --> 00:37:19,605
n't defined it yet, and

1267
00:37:19,605 --> 00:37:20,668
partly because,

1268
00:37:20,668 --> 00:37:21,902
frankly, we

1269
00:37:21,902 --> 00:37:22,758
still do a poor

1270
00:37:22,758 --> 00:37:23,889
job—and I'm

1271
00:37:23,889 --> 00:37:25,089
saying this for myself and

1272
00:37:25,089 --> 00:37:26,220
everyone here—of

1273
00:37:26,220 --> 00:37:27,454
understanding that

1274
00:37:27,454 --> 00:37:28,756
when you vote at a

1275
00:37:28,756 --> 00:37:29,887
city meeting on a

1276
00:37:29,887 --> 00:37:31,018
budget item and

1277
00:37:31,018 --> 00:37:31,875
spend

1278
00:37:31,875 --> 00:37:33,006
$3.8 million,

1279
00:37:33,006 --> 00:37:34,206
everyone who votes

1280
00:37:34,206 --> 00:37:35,165
wants to spend

1281
00:37:35,165 --> 00:37:36,433
as little money as possible and

1282
00:37:36,433 --> 00:37:37,736
doesn't want to talk about

1283
00:37:37,736 --> 00:37:38,935
service because

1284
00:37:38,935 --> 00:37:39,929
we don't need to

1285
00:37:39,929 --> 00:37:41,129
spend that money

1286
00:37:41,129 --> 00:37:48,007
today. The problem is that it would be

1287
00:37:48,038 --> 00:37:49,178
nice to move into an

1288
00:37:49,178 --> 00:37:50,318
almost cultural or

1289
00:37:50,318 --> 00:37:51,088
philosophical

1290
00:37:51,088 --> 00:37:53,049
discussion about finances.

1291
00:37:53,049 --> 00:37:54,313
God forbid that

1292
00:37:54,313 --> 00:37:57,160
be an oxymoron.

1293
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,677
To plant the idea that

1294
00:37:58,677 --> 00:38:00,194
you need to add $

1295
00:38:00,194 --> 00:38:01,751
10,000 or $2,000

1296
00:38:01,751 --> 00:38:02,996
a year for 20

1297
00:38:02,996 --> 00:38:04,552
years to maintain a

1298
00:38:04,552 --> 00:38:05,797
waterfront that won't

1299
00:38:05,797 --> 00:38:09,812
last 200 years.

1300
00:38:09,812 --> 00:38:10,690
So can I

1301
00:38:10,690 --> 00:38:11,737
say this more

1302
00:38:11,737 --> 00:38:13,155
eloquently in October?

1303
00:38:13,155 --> 00:38:14,792
I hope so. Uh, and

1304
00:38:14,792 --> 00:38:16,109
Corey, do you have any

1305
00:38:16,109 --> 00:38:17,427
thoughts on this

1306
00:38:17,427 --> 00:38:18,855
? Am I, am I wrong about

1307
00:38:18,855 --> 00:38:19,374
this?

1308
00:38:19,374 --> 00:38:20,527
No, you are absolutely

1309
00:38:20,527 --> 00:38:21,681
right. Well, you know,

1310
00:38:21,681 --> 00:38:22,754
as far as the

1311
00:38:22,754 --> 00:38:23,859
public works department is concerned,

1312
00:38:23,859 --> 00:38:24,963
they can mow

1313
00:38:24,963 --> 00:38:26,042
the grass. They are good at

1314
00:38:26,042 --> 00:38:27,310
mowing grass.

1315
00:38:27,310 --> 00:38:28,487
They are not very good

1316
00:38:28,487 --> 00:38:31,681
at gardening. So, with

1317
00:38:31,681 --> 00:38:32,596
this in mind, we

1318
00:38:32,596 --> 00:38:33,575
made sure that the

1319
00:38:33,575 --> 00:38:34,585
planting design

1320
00:38:34,585 --> 00:38:35,248
included

1321
00:38:35,248 --> 00:38:35,975
extremely

1322
00:38:35,975 --> 00:38:36,795
low-

1323
00:38:36,795 --> 00:38:37,711
maintenance

1324
00:38:37,711 --> 00:38:41,709
plants. There,

1325
00:38:41,709 --> 00:38:42,977
for example, grow

1326
00:38:42,977 --> 00:38:44,137
herbs that simply

1327
00:38:44,137 --> 00:38:45,334
exist, uh, that are

1328
00:38:45,334 --> 00:38:46,675
local to this

1329
00:38:46,675 --> 00:38:48,160
region. So they

1330
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:48,898
don't really

1331
00:38:48,898 --> 00:38:49,543
need

1332
00:38:49,543 --> 00:38:51,338
much care.

1333
00:38:51,338 --> 00:38:52,552
We don't plant

1334
00:38:52,552 --> 00:38:53,994
rose bushes that need to be

1335
00:38:53,994 --> 00:38:55,475
pruned and, you know

1336
00:38:55,475 --> 00:39:00,542
, all that other stuff. But,

1337
00:39:00,542 --> 00:39:02,170
uh, the harbormaster, uh

1338
00:39:02,170 --> 00:39:03,840
, will take the moorings off, uh

1339
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,468
, or take the pontoon,

1340
00:39:05,468 --> 00:39:10,293
uh, for the winter. Uh, I don't

1341
00:39:10,293 --> 00:39:11,537
know where exactly we'll

1342
00:39:11,537 --> 00:39:12,684
store it, but

1343
00:39:12,684 --> 00:39:14,029
it's not that big.

1344
00:39:14,029 --> 00:39:16,289
We will find a place. Uh

1345
00:39:16,289 --> 00:39:19,070
, the Department of

1346
00:39:19,070 --> 00:39:20,173
Public Works

1347
00:39:20,173 --> 00:39:22,499
will take out the trash. Uh

1348
00:39:22,499 --> 00:39:26,694
, in terms of

1349
00:39:26,694 --> 00:39:27,729
long-term

1350
00:39:27,729 --> 00:39:28,931
care, we,

1351
00:39:28,931 --> 00:39:29,933
you know, maybe

1352
00:39:29,933 --> 00:39:31,168
talked about

1353
00:39:31,168 --> 00:39:32,170
creating a

1354
00:39:32,170 --> 00:39:40,070
support group before. Um, that's something that

1355
00:39:40,070 --> 00:39:41,178
Paul could

1356
00:39:41,178 --> 00:39:42,495
maybe talk about,

1357
00:39:42,495 --> 00:39:43,396
but it's one

1358
00:39:43,396 --> 00:39:44,366
way that we

1359
00:39:44,366 --> 00:39:45,337
can raise

1360
00:39:45,337 --> 00:39:51,531
funds for...

1361
00:39:51,531 --> 00:39:52,671
And it's also complicated

1362
00:39:52,671 --> 00:39:53,616
because there are

1363
00:39:53,616 --> 00:39:54,724
legal implications

1364
00:39:54,724 --> 00:39:55,865
to those kinds of

1365
00:39:55,865 --> 00:39:57,168
funding structures if you

1366
00:39:57,168 --> 00:39:58,472
try to set

1367
00:39:58,472 --> 00:40:01,731
them up today. You know, it's

1368
00:40:01,731 --> 00:40:03,135
one thing to say that

1369
00:40:03,135 --> 00:40:04,503
we're going to put

1370
00:40:04,503 --> 00:40:05,799
$10,000 in the budget right now,

1371
00:40:05,799 --> 00:40:07,095
which is for,

1372
00:40:07,095 --> 00:40:08,139
you know, the first

1373
00:40:08,139 --> 00:40:08,823
annual

1374
00:40:08,823 --> 00:40:10,119
maintenance,

1375
00:40:10,119 --> 00:40:14,939
right? But saying that

1376
00:40:14,939 --> 00:40:16,138
we will put money in

1377
00:40:16,138 --> 00:40:17,149
the budget now for a 20-

1378
00:40:17,149 --> 00:40:18,254
year inspection and

1379
00:40:18,254 --> 00:40:19,453
major repairs

1380
00:40:19,453 --> 00:40:20,369
doesn't really

1381
00:40:20,369 --> 00:40:21,569
work, because we won't

1382
00:40:21,569 --> 00:40:22,800
be able to remove this

1383
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:23,842
item from the city

1384
00:40:23,842 --> 00:40:24,789
budget until this

1385
00:40:24,789 --> 00:40:25,705
money is

1386
00:40:25,705 --> 00:40:29,344
spent. So there are

1387
00:40:29,344 --> 00:40:30,707
some difficulties, and you

1388
00:40:30,707 --> 00:40:31,790
say that there are other

1389
00:40:31,790 --> 00:40:32,978
ways to raise

1390
00:40:32,978 --> 00:40:34,935
funds, but there is nowhere to direct them right now

1391
00:40:34,970 --> 00:40:37,644
. If

1392
00:40:37,644 --> 00:40:38,411
you have a

1393
00:40:38,411 --> 00:40:39,211
recreation department or a

1394
00:40:39,211 --> 00:40:40,512
sewer service

1395
00:40:40,512 --> 00:40:41,012
, you have a

1396
00:40:41,012 --> 00:40:42,246
corporate fund,

1397
00:40:42,246 --> 00:40:43,180
but that park will not

1398
00:40:43,180 --> 00:40:44,180
have its own

1399
00:40:44,180 --> 00:40:45,481
corporate fund

1400
00:40:45,481 --> 00:40:48,563
. So there are things

1401
00:40:48,563 --> 00:40:49,639
we can start

1402
00:40:49,639 --> 00:40:50,923
thinking about, and that's an important

1403
00:40:50,923 --> 00:40:53,870
thing. In fact,

1404
00:40:53,870 --> 00:40:54,868
we don't even have a

1405
00:40:54,868 --> 00:40:56,122
proper mechanism

1406
00:40:56,122 --> 00:40:57,377
to replenish the budget for

1407
00:40:57,377 --> 00:40:58,535
this project if

1408
00:40:58,535 --> 00:41:00,437
we wanted to. I just

1409
00:41:00,437 --> 00:41:01,527
saw a question on the screen

1410
00:41:01,527 --> 00:41:02,387
about

1411
00:41:02,387 --> 00:41:03,247
landscaping.

1412
00:41:03,247 --> 00:41:04,435
Certainly, I think that

1413
00:41:04,435 --> 00:41:05,119
landscaping

1414
00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:06,248
will play a

1415
00:41:06,248 --> 00:41:08,078
role. I was just at a

1416
00:41:08,105 --> 00:41:09,025
landscaping meeting last

1417
00:41:09,025 --> 00:41:10,243
night. This is a great

1418
00:41:10,243 --> 00:41:11,528
group. They do

1419
00:41:11,528 --> 00:41:12,559
incredible things and

1420
00:41:12,559 --> 00:41:13,747
want to take on

1421
00:41:13,747 --> 00:41:16,684
more. In particular, they are

1422
00:41:16,684 --> 00:41:17,800
very interested in

1423
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:18,853
caring for our

1424
00:41:18,853 --> 00:41:20,065
wetlands

1425
00:41:20,065 --> 00:41:20,894
and surrounding

1426
00:41:20,894 --> 00:41:22,074
areas more

1427
00:41:22,074 --> 00:41:22,999
than before, or

1428
00:41:22,999 --> 00:41:23,988
at least more

1429
00:41:23,988 --> 00:41:24,689
openly and

1430
00:41:24,689 --> 00:41:26,847
directly. So I

1431
00:41:26,847 --> 00:41:27,947
don't want to speak on

1432
00:41:27,947 --> 00:41:28,845
behalf of the

1433
00:41:28,845 --> 00:41:29,888
landscaping committee about

1434
00:41:29,888 --> 00:41:30,959
what they are ready or not

1435
00:41:30,959 --> 00:41:36,326
ready to take on.

1436
00:41:36,326 --> 00:41:37,154
But I will say this:

1437
00:41:37,154 --> 00:41:38,333
Depending on what

1438
00:41:38,333 --> 00:41:39,958
these maintenance tasks look like

1439
00:41:39,990 --> 00:41:40,946
,

1440
00:41:40,946 --> 00:41:42,188
beautification is just

1441
00:41:42,188 --> 00:41:43,176
one of many

1442
00:41:43,176 --> 00:41:44,419
areas in the city where

1443
00:41:44,419 --> 00:41:45,566
we could create a

1444
00:41:45,566 --> 00:41:46,267
committee to

1445
00:41:46,267 --> 00:41:47,414
form a separate

1446
00:41:47,414 --> 00:41:48,688
group of volunteers who are

1447
00:41:48,688 --> 00:41:49,740
interested in this

1448
00:41:49,740 --> 00:41:50,727
area, have a

1449
00:41:50,727 --> 00:41:51,906
passion for this

1450
00:41:51,906 --> 00:41:53,117
park or waterfront,

1451
00:41:53,117 --> 00:41:54,041
to work as

1452
00:41:54,041 --> 00:41:55,316
part of a maintenance

1453
00:41:55,316 --> 00:42:01,400
team. But I don't

1454
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:02,281
think I want to get

1455
00:42:02,281 --> 00:42:04,008
too deep into that

1456
00:42:04,042 --> 00:42:05,397
at this point in our

1457
00:42:05,397 --> 00:42:06,810
conversation. Mostly, I

1458
00:42:06,810 --> 00:42:07,793
'll be honest, I

1459
00:42:07,793 --> 00:42:08,929
just want to get

1460
00:42:08,929 --> 00:42:09,850
this over with, like

1461
00:42:09,850 --> 00:42:10,925
most of us, and

1462
00:42:10,925 --> 00:42:12,061
then sort out

1463
00:42:12,061 --> 00:42:13,228
some things, although it's

1464
00:42:13,228 --> 00:42:14,456
really important to me that

1465
00:42:14,456 --> 00:42:15,162
we

1466
00:42:15,162 --> 00:42:16,053
manage

1467
00:42:16,053 --> 00:42:17,097
our public

1468
00:42:17,097 --> 00:42:18,376
assets better. I think

1469
00:42:18,376 --> 00:42:19,495
we use

1470
00:42:19,495 --> 00:42:19,924
some

1471
00:42:19,924 --> 00:42:21,215
I have, I have two

1472
00:42:21,215 --> 00:42:22,693
questions. First, I don't

1473
00:42:22,693 --> 00:42:24,779
know if the

1474
00:42:24,816 --> 00:42:26,615
landscaping commission is funded by the city?

1475
00:42:26,615 --> 00:42:27,385
Are we

1476
00:42:27,385 --> 00:42:28,925
funding this too? The

1477
00:42:28,953 --> 00:42:29,809
Improvement Commission is a

1478
00:42:29,809 --> 00:42:31,122
separate budget line

1479
00:42:31,150 --> 00:42:32,234
funded by the city

1480
00:42:32,234 --> 00:42:33,147
under the direction of the

1481
00:42:33,147 --> 00:42:33,733
council, yes.

1482
00:42:33,733 --> 00:42:35,350
Okay, thank you. And the other

1483
00:42:35,350 --> 00:42:36,508
question was:

1484
00:42:36,508 --> 00:42:37,537
I like

1485
00:42:37,537 --> 00:42:38,663
the idea of ​​the Friends of

1486
00:42:38,663 --> 00:42:39,950
Scituate Harbor Park because

1487
00:42:39,950 --> 00:42:41,044
I look at what the

1488
00:42:41,044 --> 00:42:41,945
Friends of the

1489
00:42:41,945 --> 00:42:44,208
Library do. And we used to

1490
00:42:44,208 --> 00:42:45,481
have, I guess, a

1491
00:42:45,481 --> 00:42:47,476
Friends of the

1492
00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:48,783
Disability Commission, which

1493
00:42:48,783 --> 00:42:50,056
no longer exists, but

1494
00:42:50,056 --> 00:42:51,157
I like

1495
00:42:51,157 --> 00:42:52,464
the idea that people could

1496
00:42:52,464 --> 00:42:53,565
donate to it,

1497
00:42:53,565 --> 00:42:58,966
you know, like a

1498
00:42:58,966 --> 00:43:00,223
donation, and then with that

1499
00:43:00,223 --> 00:43:01,291
money they could

1500
00:43:01,291 --> 00:43:02,548
maintain parts of the

1501
00:43:02,548 --> 00:43:03,491
park when they

1502
00:43:03,491 --> 00:43:04,716
start to fall into disrepair

1503
00:43:04,716 --> 00:43:08,703
.

1504
00:43:08,703 --> 00:43:09,979
They can be very

1505
00:43:09,979 --> 00:43:11,384
good

1506
00:43:11,384 --> 00:43:12,437
complementary organizations to

1507
00:43:12,437 --> 00:43:13,650
help...And again

1508
00:43:13,650 --> 00:43:14,799
, that's why I don't

1509
00:43:14,799 --> 00:43:16,810
want to get bogged down in the minutiae of a

1510
00:43:16,842 --> 00:43:17,896
meeting like this

1511
00:43:17,896 --> 00:43:21,569
. I would probably

1512
00:43:21,569 --> 00:43:22,442
refrain from

1513
00:43:22,442 --> 00:43:23,584
discussing this

1514
00:43:23,584 --> 00:43:24,928
now until it's

1515
00:43:24,928 --> 00:43:26,238
approved because, well,

1516
00:43:26,238 --> 00:43:28,245
two things. First,

1517
00:43:28,245 --> 00:43:29,184
to have a

1518
00:43:29,184 --> 00:43:30,505
support group, you need

1519
00:43:30,505 --> 00:43:31,374
someone to

1520
00:43:31,374 --> 00:43:32,807
take care of it. This is not a

1521
00:43:32,807 --> 00:43:34,290
city organization.

1522
00:43:34,290 --> 00:43:35,562
This is a 501c3 non-governmental

1523
00:43:35,562 --> 00:43:37,017
organization in

1524
00:43:37,017 --> 00:43:39,526
most cases.

1525
00:43:39,526 --> 00:43:40,965
Therefore, the city bears no

1526
00:43:40,996 --> 00:43:42,185
responsibility or

1527
00:43:42,185 --> 00:43:44,596
obligations. That's

1528
00:43:44,596 --> 00:43:45,639
part of the second

1529
00:43:45,639 --> 00:43:46,925
challenge, because sometimes these are

1530
00:43:46,925 --> 00:43:47,968
phenomenal and

1531
00:43:47,968 --> 00:43:49,288
impactful organizations, and

1532
00:43:49,288 --> 00:43:50,678
I'm a part of many

1533
00:43:50,678 --> 00:43:52,854
of them. I don't want to

1534
00:43:52,854 --> 00:43:53,859
use

1535
00:43:53,859 --> 00:43:55,025
tonight

1536
00:43:55,025 --> 00:43:55,932
as an example to

1537
00:43:55,932 --> 00:43:57,163
criticize the dog

1538
00:43:57,163 --> 00:43:58,641
park. I should have come

1539
00:43:58,641 --> 00:43:59,661
up with a better

1540
00:43:59,661 --> 00:44:01,610
pun. But, of course,

1541
00:44:01,610 --> 00:44:02,734
he's had

1542
00:44:02,734 --> 00:44:03,995
problems recently, and this is also a

1543
00:44:03,995 --> 00:44:05,943
support group. So

1544
00:44:05,943 --> 00:44:07,142
, you know, they can

1545
00:44:07,142 --> 00:44:08,277
be useful, but

1546
00:44:08,277 --> 00:44:09,192
they have to be

1547
00:44:09,192 --> 00:44:10,138
organized,

1548
00:44:10,138 --> 00:44:10,927
coordinated

1549
00:44:10,927 --> 00:44:12,125
mechanisms, and the city is

1550
00:44:12,125 --> 00:44:12,946
not responsible for them

1551
00:44:12,946 --> 00:44:14,737
.

1552
00:44:14,737 --> 00:44:15,739
So I would probably

1553
00:44:15,739 --> 00:44:16,908
recommend, unless

1554
00:44:16,908 --> 00:44:17,710
Paul and Corey

1555
00:44:17,710 --> 00:44:18,913
feel otherwise, not to

1556
00:44:18,913 --> 00:44:20,083
talk about

1557
00:44:20,083 --> 00:44:21,386
support groups until it's

1558
00:44:21,386 --> 00:44:22,388
approved, and

1559
00:44:22,388 --> 00:44:23,557
then we try to

1560
00:44:23,557 --> 00:44:26,591
figure out what's possible.

1561
00:44:26,591 --> 00:44:28,241
I agree. I mean

1562
00:44:28,241 --> 00:44:29,265
, I've been in a lot of

1563
00:44:29,265 --> 00:44:30,130
volunteer

1564
00:44:30,130 --> 00:44:31,058
organizations, I

1565
00:44:31,058 --> 00:44:32,115
ran courses for 15

1566
00:44:32,115 --> 00:44:32,883
years, and they

1567
00:44:32,883 --> 00:44:34,036
start strong, and

1568
00:44:34,036 --> 00:44:35,252
then like the

1569
00:44:35,252 --> 00:44:36,501
Disability Commission,

1570
00:44:36,501 --> 00:44:37,621
actually, Athena, I used to

1571
00:44:37,621 --> 00:44:38,678
work with

1572
00:44:38,678 --> 00:44:39,798
people who were in

1573
00:44:39,798 --> 00:44:42,039
Friends of the Disability Commission

1574
00:44:42,039 --> 00:44:43,723
. Um, the course is another

1575
00:44:43,723 --> 00:44:46,793
example. It's not as

1576
00:44:46,793 --> 00:44:48,075
effective as it was six

1577
00:44:48,075 --> 00:44:49,020
years ago, or

1578
00:44:49,020 --> 00:44:50,167
just...and the

1579
00:44:50,167 --> 00:44:51,381
dog park, a lot of

1580
00:44:51,381 --> 00:44:52,528
things like that start off

1581
00:44:52,528 --> 00:44:54,619
successful, even the "

1582
00:44:54,653 --> 00:44:55,867
Scithawaite Recreation Friends" faded away, and

1583
00:44:55,867 --> 00:44:56,981
we're trying to

1584
00:44:56,981 --> 00:44:59,619
revive that. So that's a

1585
00:44:59,619 --> 00:45:00,908
great thing, and I think

1586
00:45:00,908 --> 00:45:01,800
we'll

1587
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:02,858
get a lot of

1588
00:45:02,858 --> 00:45:03,981
enthusiasm initially, but it's

1589
00:45:03,981 --> 00:45:04,576
just not a

1590
00:45:04,576 --> 00:45:05,469
long-term

1591
00:45:05,469 --> 00:45:06,944
strategy. This is my

1592
00:45:06,944 --> 00:45:08,219
only advice if this

1593
00:45:08,219 --> 00:45:09,527
question arises, because it

1594
00:45:09,527 --> 00:45:10,704
all depends on

1595
00:45:10,704 --> 00:45:12,012
who is volunteering

1596
00:45:12,012 --> 00:45:12,796
during a specific

1597
00:45:12,796 --> 00:45:14,523
time period.

1598
00:45:14,523 --> 00:45:15,879
But a good question is the

1599
00:45:15,879 --> 00:45:16,726
exaggerated

1600
00:45:16,726 --> 00:45:17,803
promises about...

1601
00:45:17,803 --> 00:45:18,204
Yes.

1602
00:45:18,204 --> 00:45:19,583
True. That's right. A

1603
00:45:19,583 --> 00:45:20,539
good question, I

1604
00:45:20,539 --> 00:45:21,559
think, started with

1605
00:45:21,559 --> 00:45:22,419
how do we

1606
00:45:22,419 --> 00:45:23,566
support it,

1607
00:45:23,566 --> 00:45:24,879
right? And the question is,

1608
00:45:24,879 --> 00:45:25,614
can we

1609
00:45:25,614 --> 00:45:26,220
come up with

1610
00:45:26,220 --> 00:45:27,306
tools that are

1611
00:45:27,306 --> 00:45:28,296
long-term

1612
00:45:28,296 --> 00:45:29,222
structures that

1613
00:45:29,222 --> 00:45:30,426
work? Friends—that's

1614
00:45:30,426 --> 00:45:31,644
great, um, until you

1615
00:45:31,644 --> 00:45:32,393
ask them to

1616
00:45:32,393 --> 00:45:33,579
help you move

1617
00:45:33,579 --> 00:45:34,609
into a new apartment, and

1618
00:45:34,609 --> 00:45:35,639
then they suddenly

1619
00:45:35,639 --> 00:45:37,419
become busy. So

1620
00:45:37,419 --> 00:45:38,368
, um, that's exactly the

1621
00:45:38,368 --> 00:45:39,563
danger you

1622
00:45:39,563 --> 00:45:40,757
want to try to

1623
00:45:40,757 --> 00:45:42,091
avoid. And in general,

1624
00:45:42,091 --> 00:45:43,431
for this discussion about

1625
00:45:43,431 --> 00:45:44,369
getting

1626
00:45:44,369 --> 00:45:45,575
things done, I would

1627
00:45:45,575 --> 00:45:46,714
advise staying

1628
00:45:46,714 --> 00:45:48,189
away from this topic.

1629
00:45:48,189 --> 00:45:49,107
And unfortunately, on

1630
00:45:49,107 --> 00:45:50,123
long-term

1631
00:45:50,123 --> 00:45:51,402
maintenance, if

1632
00:45:51,402 --> 00:45:52,714
it comes up, I think

1633
00:45:52,714 --> 00:45:53,665
we can give a

1634
00:45:53,665 --> 00:45:54,944
rational and straightforward

1635
00:45:54,944 --> 00:45:56,092
answer, but I'm not

1636
00:45:56,092 --> 00:45:57,338
sure we have a

1637
00:45:57,338 --> 00:45:58,650
great answer to

1638
00:45:58,650 --> 00:45:59,929
say, "Oh yeah, we have it

1639
00:45:59,929 --> 00:46:01,175
under control for

1640
00:46:01,175 --> 00:46:02,418
70 years." We have

1641
00:46:02,418 --> 00:46:02,841
n't yet, but we have

1642
00:46:02,841 --> 00:46:03,850
short-term

1643
00:46:03,850 --> 00:46:05,120
service

1644
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:09,148
available.

1645
00:46:09,148 --> 00:46:10,434
I think the thing is, the

1646
00:46:10,434 --> 00:46:11,457
elected board is

1647
00:46:11,457 --> 00:46:12,645
ultimately responsible

1648
00:46:12,645 --> 00:46:13,800
for maintaining all

1649
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,087
city property and

1650
00:46:15,087 --> 00:46:20,227
facilities, so...I

1651
00:46:20,227 --> 00:46:21,375
think, you know, we'll

1652
00:46:21,375 --> 00:46:22,396
help, but I

1653
00:46:22,396 --> 00:46:23,257
think they'll

1654
00:46:23,257 --> 00:46:24,501
probably come up with a

1655
00:46:24,501 --> 00:46:26,820
plan for that.

1656
00:46:26,820 --> 00:46:27,764
I support this

1657
00:46:27,764 --> 00:46:30,234
statement.

1658
00:46:30,234 --> 00:46:31,405
I want to see if

1659
00:46:31,405 --> 00:46:31,925
anyone from the

1660
00:46:31,925 --> 00:46:33,096
public wants

1661
00:46:33,096 --> 00:46:35,644
to speak. I think

1662
00:46:35,644 --> 00:46:36,880
you can ask for the

1663
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,115
sound to be turned on, and we

1664
00:46:38,115 --> 00:46:39,250
can do that

1665
00:46:39,250 --> 00:46:40,252
if anyone has anything to

1666
00:46:40,252 --> 00:46:41,220
add at this

1667
00:46:41,220 --> 00:46:47,207
point. I don't

1668
00:46:47,207 --> 00:46:49,114
see anyone. I hope,

1669
00:46:49,114 --> 00:46:50,289
thank you all for

1670
00:46:50,289 --> 00:46:51,842
participating. I think we

1671
00:46:51,842 --> 00:46:52,713
are moving on to

1672
00:46:52,713 --> 00:46:54,102
closing the meeting.

1673
00:46:54,102 --> 00:46:55,449
Any...Well, we received

1674
00:46:55,449 --> 00:46:57,483
one request. Seth.

1675
00:46:57,483 --> 00:46:59,123
No, it's just applause.

1676
00:46:59,123 --> 00:47:00,407
This is not a raised hand.

1677
00:47:00,407 --> 00:47:01,651
OK. Perfectly.

1678
00:47:01,651 --> 00:47:03,316
OK. Thanks, um...

1679
00:47:03,316 --> 00:47:04,060
But now you

1680
00:47:04,060 --> 00:47:05,197
really have your hand raised.

1681
00:47:05,197 --> 00:47:06,173
Wait a minute. Mr.

1682
00:47:06,173 --> 00:47:07,062
Greenbaum, you can

1683
00:47:07,062 --> 00:47:07,846
turn on your

1684
00:47:07,846 --> 00:47:08,758
microphone. Just

1685
00:47:08,758 --> 00:47:09,692
provide your name,

1686
00:47:09,692 --> 00:47:10,625
address, and voice

1687
00:47:10,625 --> 00:47:12,402
your question.

1688
00:47:12,402 --> 00:47:14,364
Scott Greenbaum,

1689
00:47:14,364 --> 00:47:19,572
40 Damon Road, 02066. I

1690
00:47:19,572 --> 00:47:21,026
looked over the plans and there is

1691
00:47:21,026 --> 00:47:21,920
something that is

1692
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,151
unclear to me. Do the

1693
00:47:24,151 --> 00:47:25,280
new

1694
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,210
plans include a floating

1695
00:47:26,210 --> 00:47:31,751
dock or not? Because I heard

1696
00:47:31,751 --> 00:47:33,018
that it was supposed to be there, but the

1697
00:47:33,018 --> 00:47:34,026
plans online don't

1698
00:47:34,026 --> 00:47:35,098
look like there will be a

1699
00:47:35,098 --> 00:47:36,301
floating dock for

1700
00:47:36,301 --> 00:47:37,601
those using the

1701
00:47:37,601 --> 00:47:41,662
harbor.

1702
00:47:41,662 --> 00:47:45,512
Yes, that's in the plans.

1703
00:47:45,512 --> 00:47:46,580
We have all the permits, the

1704
00:47:46,580 --> 00:47:47,260
environmental

1705
00:47:47,260 --> 00:47:48,198
review, all

1706
00:47:48,198 --> 00:47:49,040
the approvals at the

1707
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,237
local, state

1708
00:47:50,237 --> 00:47:51,208
and federal

1709
00:47:51,208 --> 00:47:52,050
levels, and they

1710
00:47:52,050 --> 00:47:53,053
include the entrance and the

1711
00:47:53,053 --> 00:47:56,634
floating dock. This

1712
00:47:56,634 --> 00:47:57,693
is also part of the

1713
00:47:57,693 --> 00:47:58,956
funding plan,

1714
00:47:58,956 --> 00:48:00,471
as Corey mentioned. So yes

1715
00:48:00,471 --> 00:48:01,694
, we are very

1716
00:48:01,694 --> 00:48:05,952
happy about that. I think it would be

1717
00:48:05,952 --> 00:48:07,202
great to

1718
00:48:07,202 --> 00:48:08,283
kayak to the pier,

1719
00:48:08,283 --> 00:48:09,499
go to a restaurant,

1720
00:48:09,499 --> 00:48:10,276
get some fish and

1721
00:48:10,276 --> 00:48:10,952
chips,

1722
00:48:10,952 --> 00:48:12,201
enjoy them in the

1723
00:48:12,201 --> 00:48:18,921
park, and then paddle on.

1724
00:48:18,921 --> 00:48:20,102
My second question:

1725
00:48:20,102 --> 00:48:21,075
will the embankment

1726
00:48:21,075 --> 00:48:22,465
cover the

1727
00:48:22,465 --> 00:48:25,393
shore fortifications? So what

1728
00:48:25,393 --> 00:48:26,566
measures are foreseen

1729
00:48:26,566 --> 00:48:27,739
to maintain

1730
00:48:27,739 --> 00:48:31,728
this fortification? And

1731
00:48:31,728 --> 00:48:32,990
is the budget for

1732
00:48:32,990 --> 00:48:41,810
the project set aside for

1733
00:48:41,810 --> 00:48:43,026
repairing the fortifications

1734
00:48:43,026 --> 00:48:44,173
when you remove

1735
00:48:44,173 --> 00:48:45,355
the foundation of Pier 44,

1736
00:48:45,355 --> 00:48:46,501
because it actually

1737
00:48:46,501 --> 00:48:47,370
holds up this entire

1738
00:48:47,370 --> 00:48:55,309
structure? The stones

1739
00:48:55,309 --> 00:48:56,708
there seem to be embedded in the

1740
00:48:56,708 --> 00:48:58,143
concrete foundation on the

1741
00:48:58,143 --> 00:49:02,613
water side of Pier 44.

1742
00:49:02,613 --> 00:49:04,557
Thanks, Scott. Uh, Corey

1743
00:49:04,557 --> 00:49:04,813
...

1744
00:49:04,813 --> 00:49:06,523
I think, yes, I think that

1745
00:49:06,523 --> 00:49:06,850
......

1746
00:49:06,850 --> 00:49:07,967
this is an important part of

1747
00:49:07,967 --> 00:49:09,148
the project, and Corey can

1748
00:49:09,148 --> 00:49:10,200
talk about it in

1749
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:11,994
more detail.

1750
00:49:11,994 --> 00:49:13,433
Yes, it's great that you

1751
00:49:13,433 --> 00:49:15,752
asked about it. I think this is something

1752
00:49:15,752 --> 00:49:17,104
we haven't

1753
00:49:17,104 --> 00:49:18,145
talked about too much

1754
00:49:18,145 --> 00:49:20,982
before. We

1755
00:49:20,982 --> 00:49:21,746
invited

1756
00:49:21,746 --> 00:49:23,074
engineers, specialists in

1757
00:49:23,074 --> 00:49:24,302
coastal structures, to

1758
00:49:24,302 --> 00:49:25,563
inspect this

1759
00:49:25,563 --> 00:49:36,088
fortification. They

1760
00:49:36,088 --> 00:49:37,306
provided recommendations

1761
00:49:37,306 --> 00:49:38,493
for strengthening, and this has

1762
00:49:38,493 --> 00:49:39,679
been taken into account in the design

1763
00:49:39,679 --> 00:49:40,641
and budget: we will

1764
00:49:40,641 --> 00:49:41,924
completely rebuild the

1765
00:49:41,924 --> 00:49:43,046
fortifications as part of

1766
00:49:43,046 --> 00:49:59,027
this project. Some of the

1767
00:49:59,027 --> 00:50:00,299
stones are too small, they are

1768
00:50:00,299 --> 00:50:01,570
sagging, there is a lot of

1769
00:50:01,570 --> 00:50:02,909
concrete debris, which

1770
00:50:02,909 --> 00:50:04,181
we will remove during the

1771
00:50:04,181 --> 00:50:05,520
work, replacing it

1772
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:06,624
with larger protective

1773
00:50:06,624 --> 00:50:16,077
stones. So within the framework of

1774
00:50:16,077 --> 00:50:17,139
this project, everything

1775
00:50:17,139 --> 00:50:17,976
will be completely

1776
00:50:17,976 --> 00:50:22,486
redesigned.

1777
00:50:22,486 --> 00:50:23,932
Well, that's good to hear,

1778
00:50:23,932 --> 00:50:25,378
because it's unstable and has

1779
00:50:25,378 --> 00:50:28,196
probably been there since

1780
00:50:28,233 --> 00:50:30,233
Pier 44 was built.

1781
00:50:30,233 --> 00:50:31,012
Yes.

1782
00:50:31,012 --> 00:50:32,056
No one

1783
00:50:32,056 --> 00:50:35,410
paid attention to him.

1784
00:50:35,410 --> 00:50:36,391
As you noticed,

1785
00:50:36,391 --> 00:50:37,373
Scott, it's like a

1786
00:50:37,373 --> 00:50:38,671
garbage dump, not a

1787
00:50:38,671 --> 00:50:39,934
proper

1788
00:50:39,934 --> 00:50:44,091
shoreline fortification. As

1789
00:50:44,091 --> 00:50:46,808
Corey said, it would be nice if it was

1790
00:50:46,808 --> 00:50:47,431
Yes.

1791
00:50:47,431 --> 00:50:49,553
to rebuild. Scott,

1792
00:50:49,553 --> 00:50:50,614
you don't necessarily

1793
00:50:50,614 --> 00:50:51,906
have to answer,

1794
00:50:51,906 --> 00:50:53,232
but do you support the

1795
00:50:53,232 --> 00:50:59,037
floating dock?

1796
00:50:59,037 --> 00:51:00,198
Yeah, I just wasn't

1797
00:51:00,198 --> 00:51:01,231
sure he

1798
00:51:01,231 --> 00:51:02,392
survived the

1799
00:51:02,392 --> 00:51:07,794
budget cuts because he...

1800
00:51:07,794 --> 00:51:09,127
Well, I encourage you and

1801
00:51:09,127 --> 00:51:10,289
all your friends

1802
00:51:10,289 --> 00:51:11,520
who support this to

1803
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:12,579
come to town

1804
00:51:12,579 --> 00:51:13,297
meetings and have your

1805
00:51:13,297 --> 00:51:14,964
say too. That would be

1806
00:51:14,964 --> 00:51:15,698
great.

1807
00:51:15,698 --> 00:51:16,625
Thank you. Are

1808
00:51:16,625 --> 00:51:17,918
there any more questions from the

1809
00:51:17,918 --> 00:51:20,165
public?

1810
00:51:20,165 --> 00:51:21,246
To continue on this

1811
00:51:21,246 --> 00:51:22,491
topic, Paul, I think, and

1812
00:51:22,491 --> 00:51:23,638
in support of

1813
00:51:23,638 --> 00:51:24,884
Scott's point, I very much support that as well

1814
00:51:24,884 --> 00:51:25,755
. We've

1815
00:51:25,755 --> 00:51:26,764
talked about this in the

1816
00:51:26,764 --> 00:51:27,714
last few

1817
00:51:27,714 --> 00:51:28,912
meetings. We

1818
00:51:28,912 --> 00:51:30,114
understood the financial

1819
00:51:30,114 --> 00:51:31,417
implications, tried

1820
00:51:31,417 --> 00:51:32,653
to be respectful and

1821
00:51:32,653 --> 00:51:33,287
fiscally

1822
00:51:33,287 --> 00:51:34,356
responsible by

1823
00:51:34,356 --> 00:51:35,425
cutting back a little bit on

1824
00:51:35,425 --> 00:51:36,627
expenses, and that's where,

1825
00:51:36,627 --> 00:51:37,763
you know, a large

1826
00:51:37,763 --> 00:51:38,765
facility like a canopy

1827
00:51:38,765 --> 00:51:39,433
really got

1828
00:51:39,433 --> 00:51:44,777
cut. But the

1829
00:51:44,777 --> 00:51:46,021
floating dock, in my

1830
00:51:46,021 --> 00:51:47,164
opinion, is an important

1831
00:51:47,164 --> 00:51:48,442
part of the integration of

1832
00:51:48,442 --> 00:51:49,786
this park and, you know, the

1833
00:51:49,786 --> 00:51:50,829
synergy with all the

1834
00:51:50,829 --> 00:51:51,770
different

1835
00:51:51,770 --> 00:51:53,048
uses that we

1836
00:51:53,048 --> 00:51:54,292
can get from

1837
00:51:54,292 --> 00:51:55,132
this land and

1838
00:51:55,132 --> 00:51:56,410
space, both on land

1839
00:51:56,410 --> 00:52:04,170
and on water. So I

1840
00:52:04,170 --> 00:52:05,388
think it's important not

1841
00:52:05,388 --> 00:52:06,606
only to make sure

1842
00:52:06,606 --> 00:52:07,924
our kayakers, fishermen

1843
00:52:07,924 --> 00:52:09,010
and the public,

1844
00:52:09,010 --> 00:52:10,229
you know,

1845
00:52:10,229 --> 00:52:11,480
water users, understand that this is an

1846
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:12,632
integral part of the

1847
00:52:12,632 --> 00:52:13,653
project, but also not

1848
00:52:13,653 --> 00:52:14,871
just to

1849
00:52:14,871 --> 00:52:16,090
get votes, but also

1850
00:52:16,090 --> 00:52:17,209
to manage the

1851
00:52:17,209 --> 00:52:18,033
area, its

1852
00:52:18,033 --> 00:52:19,481
use and

1853
00:52:19,514 --> 00:52:24,463
public access to it.

1854
00:52:24,463 --> 00:52:25,299
This was a really

1855
00:52:25,299 --> 00:52:26,605
crucial element that

1856
00:52:26,605 --> 00:52:27,676
I thought was

1857
00:52:27,676 --> 00:52:28,847
important to keep in the

1858
00:52:28,847 --> 00:52:30,020
plan. So I'm really

1859
00:52:30,020 --> 00:52:30,986
glad he's

1860
00:52:30,986 --> 00:52:32,346
part of the final

1861
00:52:32,346 --> 00:52:35,292
offer. I

1862
00:52:35,292 --> 00:52:36,512
completely agree, and as

1863
00:52:36,512 --> 00:52:37,597
Corey mentioned, our

1864
00:52:37,597 --> 00:52:38,581
job as the MBTA

1865
00:52:38,581 --> 00:52:39,903
under the restrictions

1866
00:52:39,903 --> 00:52:40,548
in the act is to

1867
00:52:40,548 --> 00:52:41,769
use this

1868
00:52:41,769 --> 00:52:42,684
property to

1869
00:52:42,684 --> 00:52:43,227
connect

1870
00:52:43,227 --> 00:52:44,244
the public to

1871
00:52:44,244 --> 00:52:45,499
their waterfront in the

1872
00:52:45,499 --> 00:52:46,584
harbor, and

1873
00:52:46,584 --> 00:52:47,873
I can't see a better way to do that

1874
00:52:47,873 --> 00:52:51,870
. So we will

1875
00:52:51,870 --> 00:52:53,121
have people

1876
00:52:53,121 --> 00:52:54,233
arriving by

1877
00:52:54,233 --> 00:52:55,415
car, by bike, on

1878
00:52:55,415 --> 00:52:56,736
foot, and also from the

1879
00:52:56,736 --> 00:52:58,960
harbor side. This will be

1880
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,429
great. Are there any more

1881
00:53:01,429 --> 00:53:02,309
comments or

1882
00:53:02,309 --> 00:53:06,448
questions? Good. I

1883
00:53:06,448 --> 00:53:07,808
ask for a motion to

1884
00:53:07,808 --> 00:53:12,379
adjourn the meeting. Howie

1885
00:53:12,379 --> 00:53:14,039
proposes, I support

1886
00:53:14,039 --> 00:53:15,720
. OK. Are there any

1887
00:53:15,720 --> 00:53:18,771
discussions? I ask the

1888
00:53:18,807 --> 00:53:22,495
committee members to vote. Athena?

1889
00:53:22,495 --> 00:53:24,794
Is that "yes"?

1890
00:53:24,794 --> 00:53:26,080
Athena?

1891
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:26,708
Yes.

1892
00:53:26,708 --> 00:53:29,108
Paul—yes. Howie?

1893
00:53:29,108 --> 00:53:29,890
Yes.

1894
00:53:29,890 --> 00:53:30,672
Betsy?

1895
00:53:30,672 --> 00:53:31,418
Yes.

1896
00:53:31,418 --> 00:53:32,710
Perfectly. Okay,

1897
00:53:32,710 --> 00:53:34,658
the meeting is closed at

1898
00:53:34,658 --> 00:53:36,767
7:25. OK.

1899
00:53:36,767 --> 00:53:38,473
See you all at the

1900
00:53:38,473 --> 00:53:39,796
community meeting on

1901
00:53:39,796 --> 00:53:43,017
October 19th. We will schedule a

1902
00:53:43,017 --> 00:53:44,216
future meeting of

1903
00:53:44,216 --> 00:53:45,383
this committee after the

1904
00:53:45,383 --> 00:53:46,582
community meeting to

1905
00:53:46,582 --> 00:53:47,782
discuss the successful

1906
00:53:47,782 --> 00:53:48,715
vote and

1907
00:53:48,715 --> 00:53:51,712
next steps.

1908
00:53:51,712 --> 00:53:52,786
And bring everyone you

1909
00:53:52,786 --> 00:53:53,872
can. We will

1910
00:53:53,872 --> 00:53:54,853
need the votes

1911
00:53:54,853 --> 00:53:55,679
in this chamber to

1912
00:53:55,679 --> 00:53:56,677
pass this. So

1913
00:53:56,677 --> 00:53:57,514
please spread the

1914
00:53:57,514 --> 00:53:58,181
word.

1915
00:53:58,181 --> 00:53:59,036
Tell your

1916
00:53:59,036 --> 00:54:00,019
neighbors, friends and

1917
00:54:00,019 --> 00:54:00,683
Important.

1918
00:54:00,683 --> 00:54:02,051
Or