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What room are you in,

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Frank?

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Um, I'm in that little

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conference room

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near Corey's office.

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Oh, okay. Yes, I know

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where you are now. Good.

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Um, you got kicked out of

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the last one, so...Um,

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Jen and Josh

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set it up.

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just had to

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show up. So, okay.

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Um, we're all here. We

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can start the show.

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Good evening and

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welcome to, uh

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, September, where are we

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now? 21st meeting

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of the Commission on the

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Preservation of

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Locations. Before

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we start, a

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quick, uh,

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read here. These

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meetings are being held

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virtually as an

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alternative means of

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public access

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pursuant to

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Section 20 of the Acts

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of 2021, which temporarily

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amends

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certain provisions of the

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Meetings Act.

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You are hereby notified that

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these meetings and all

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communications during the

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meeting will

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comply with the

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Meetings Act. And secondly,

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it is Situate's commitment to

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diversity,

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equality and

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inclusion. The

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Site Preservation Commission

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to ensure an

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atmosphere of respect

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during our meetings.

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members to interact

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politely, even when there

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are disagreements. We

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value the participation of our

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community. We want

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all participants,

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marginalized

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minorities, to feel

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welcome and

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respected, and we

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our committee members and

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everyone who participates to

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uphold these

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standards and to

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support and

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respect the community.

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Along with that, we would like to

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ask if there are any

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issues with

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some of the hearings

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tonight...I

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know sometimes different

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talk about these

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the issue has already

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can we avoid

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repeating similar

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things and also

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direct and to the point.

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several meetings, and out of

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respect for the people who

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agenda, it would be

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So, with all of that in mind

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, we have an agenda

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additions or

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exclusions to this

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agenda?

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Yes, I think there is.

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Penny, would you like to

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add a vote

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for

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retention restrictions?

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Well, Josh added that. This is F,

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on what I have,

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it's on mine.

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vote on this on the

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CR, yes.

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comment on

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our meeting

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last night, if

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we're not late...

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Hi, Frank.

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Yes, Eric.

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Your sound, at least to me

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choppy. I don't know

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if it's just because of the

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position, but maybe

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it's just me... So

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if anyone else...

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How do you like it? Better?

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That's pretty good.

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microphone was a little bit

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chin. Thank you,

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Eric.

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Yes, you all...

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So, I propose to

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adopt the

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agenda with

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two additions.

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This is Penny. Um,

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support.

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From Eric. Eric, all

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in, Brendan.

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And Robbie.

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And Frank, yes. Thank you.

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Good. We have a house at

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14 Lincoln Road.

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. We have a house at

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165 Stockbridge Road, and that was an

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extension.

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, um, Jacob here.

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Jacob Lemieux of Hancock

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Associates, 315 Elm Street,

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Marlboro,

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Massachusetts,

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representing CAL Realty. Um

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, we're sharing my

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minor changes to the

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plan that the commission

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requested. Sorry. Um,

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moving... We

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moved the

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dumpster

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closer to the

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wetlands, where the

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dumping area is

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, to the other side of the

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parking lot. Um, this

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dump area

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is just for

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turning around a fire

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truck if a fire

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truck or, uh,

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ambulance ever

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needs to

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go there, and for

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extra

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snow storage

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in the winter. Um, this

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will help organize the site a little better

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significant changes were

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essentially changes in

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stormwater modeling

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you want me to

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look at these

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technical changes, but I

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believe we have a

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clear expert

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opinion from an expert engineer

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regarding the

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stormwater system. And, uh, that's all there is to the

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changes.

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Jen to comment first,

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and if she has any

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additional questions,

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you can

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panel members. How do you like it?

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Janet here from Horsley

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Janet to give

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us a brief rundown.

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Okay, can you hear me?

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We understand you.

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Hello, Janet.

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Okay, for the record,

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my name is Janet

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Bernardo. I am a

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professional civil engineer

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with Horsley

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Witten Group. And the city

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asked us to

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conduct a review of this

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project. Essentially, a

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stormwater management system on top of a

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stormwater management system. We

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provided a letter dated

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July 9, 2026, and then a

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second letter in

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response dated

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September 9. And, essentially,

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you know, the applicant

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apartment

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building with parking,

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and to deal with the

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water, they're

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installing a

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relatively large

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underground

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chamber system. We were looking for

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confirmation of

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soils,

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groundwater, drainage area, and

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we had several

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queries that the

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applicant was able

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to answer. Uh, one

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question I have for the

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applicant is that there is a

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that runs, um, under the

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driveway. The

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was originally shown as 6

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inches, and we

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since they were in

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this area and

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were going to extend

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the length of the

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, um, maybe they

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to 12 inches, um, to

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make sure that it

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didn't get clogged while

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feeding, um, the adjacent

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wetlands.

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came back as a 12-

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sure if it

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12 inches, and just to

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make sure it's

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clearly stated in the

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protocol, I

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just increased it

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based on your

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recommendation.

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So, he was 6 inches.

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He is still 6 inches tall.

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You extend its

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length so that it is

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completely under the

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driveway and

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increase the size to

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12 inches just to

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make sure there is no

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clogging

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during a rainstorm.

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Yes, this should prevent

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overflow through the

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driveway.

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Perfectly. So, that was

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one thing I didn't

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quite understand. Um, we

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suggested a few

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conditions in our letter,

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assuming they

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did some

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test rooms,

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but we, we want to

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make sure that

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there's, um,

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a sufficient distance of

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two, um, feet from the

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groundwater under the system. Therefore,

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we asked the commission

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to consider this

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issue during

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construction,

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as this

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construction

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begins, to do an

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additional test

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well in the

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chamber system. There is one, but it would be

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great if,

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um, they just

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confirmed that the entire

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system has the

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necessary separation

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. So, this was the

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proposal on

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page five of

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eight of our letter of

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September 9th. We

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also proposed

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on page seven of

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eight that, um,

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the commission consider

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a requirement to

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place a

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silt fence barrier and

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compost filter layer along the

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erosion control line as a special

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condition. Um, there's an

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erosion control line, there are

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two pieces, but we

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recommend that these

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two, um, products be

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assembled together and

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used

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simultaneously. Both requests and

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we should also

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ask the commission

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to consider the request for an

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operations

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and

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maintenance sketch as a

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special condition.

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Sketches allow a

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property owner

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to just look at a

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very simple sketch and

386
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see, here's where

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the catchment is, which

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I have to

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look at often. Um,

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property owners

391
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don't even know

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what a

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watershed looks like. Therefore, it is

394
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good that it should be

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marked with a circle on the

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plan. This is where

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the cover of the

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underground

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chamber system is located. Because they're

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underground, often, you know,

401
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no one even knows

402
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they're there. So it's

403
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nice to have a very

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simple sketch so that the

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property owner

406
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can say, "Okay,

407
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this is something I need to

408
00:10:03,092 --> 00:10:03,923
review,

409
00:10:03,923 --> 00:10:04,686
decide on, and

410
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make sure

411
00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,866
the conditions are met." So

412
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, those were actually

413
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three

414
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conditions offered to you. We

415
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felt that

416
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we had reviewed

417
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the calculations and that they had been

418
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done

419
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properly.

420
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OK. I don't think

421
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we have any

422
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problems with any

423
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of these conditions. We

424
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can, of course,

425
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make an additional

426
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test shaft during the

427
00:10:31,337 --> 00:10:32,648
work on site. This is not a

428
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problem or before

429
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work begins on

430
00:10:34,623 --> 00:10:36,418
site. Um, so I

431
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think, uh, I think

432
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we can take

433
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all of these conditions into account.

434
00:10:44,762 --> 00:10:48,419
OK. Um, Jen Smith,

435
00:10:48,419 --> 00:10:51,563
thank you, Janet. And thank you

436
00:10:51,563 --> 00:10:55,543
, Jacob. Um,

437
00:10:55,543 --> 00:10:56,164
I have no

438
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further questions at

439
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this time.

440
00:10:58,222 --> 00:10:59,494
Right. Jacob, are

441
00:10:59,494 --> 00:11:00,727
you okay? I

442
00:11:00,727 --> 00:11:01,543
mean, it was a

443
00:11:01,543 --> 00:11:02,070
lot to

444
00:11:02,070 --> 00:11:03,276
take in. Do you agree

445
00:11:03,276 --> 00:11:04,446
with this, if we can

446
00:11:04,446 --> 00:11:05,461
take some of

447
00:11:05,461 --> 00:11:06,645
this into account? I am not.

448
00:11:06,645 --> 00:11:08,356
Oh yes, absolutely.

449
00:11:08,356 --> 00:11:10,773
OK. Um, we've already

450
00:11:10,773 --> 00:11:12,018
reviewed the conditions

451
00:11:12,018 --> 00:11:13,228
that

452
00:11:13,228 --> 00:11:14,545
Janet recommended, and I think

453
00:11:14,545 --> 00:11:15,719
we agree that

454
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they should all be there. OK.

455
00:11:19,368 --> 00:11:23,543
Good. Sorry, Jen

456
00:11:23,543 --> 00:11:24,980
Smith. Do you have

457
00:11:24,980 --> 00:11:26,073
any questions

458
00:11:26,073 --> 00:11:27,285
now? Thank you.

459
00:11:27,285 --> 00:11:29,002
Okay, thank you. Um, so

460
00:11:29,002 --> 00:11:30,842
let's see. Eh

461
00:11:30,842 --> 00:11:33,598
, Penny?

462
00:11:33,598 --> 00:11:34,499
Yes, I can't

463
00:11:34,499 --> 00:11:36,693
read this plan.

464
00:11:36,693 --> 00:11:37,997
Good. Oh, I could

465
00:11:37,997 --> 00:11:39,681
make mine myself. What's

466
00:11:39,681 --> 00:11:41,486
yellow, Jacob?

467
00:11:41,486 --> 00:11:42,710
So, yellow is the

468
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wetland replication zone

469
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.

470
00:11:44,795 --> 00:11:46,237
Okay, that's what I thought.

471
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Now we...Yes, we

472
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added that as well from the

473
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last meeting. I think

474
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I forgot to

475
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mention that.

476
00:11:51,195 --> 00:11:52,745
Yes. No. No, that's my

477
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only question. I

478
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think this is a great

479
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project. Um, it must

480
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be wonderful there. Do you have a

481
00:12:01,741 --> 00:12:02,833
wheelchair access,

482
00:12:02,833 --> 00:12:03,894
yes, it is accessible for

483
00:12:03,894 --> 00:12:05,211
people with disabilities.

484
00:12:05,211 --> 00:12:06,928
Away from the road.

485
00:12:06,928 --> 00:12:08,735
Yes. No, and it's a beautiful

486
00:12:08,735 --> 00:12:13,128
area. Thank you.

487
00:12:13,128 --> 00:12:17,465
Good. Um, Brendan?

488
00:12:17,465 --> 00:12:18,502
No, I don't have

489
00:12:18,502 --> 00:12:19,842
any questions.

490
00:12:19,842 --> 00:12:22,035
Thank you.

491
00:12:22,035 --> 00:12:26,414
Um, Eric?

492
00:12:26,414 --> 00:12:34,484
Um, yeah, I'm definitely...glad to

493
00:12:34,484 --> 00:12:35,519
hear that the applicant

494
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is going to...you know,

495
00:12:36,795 --> 00:12:37,830
support all of the...

496
00:12:37,830 --> 00:12:38,554
suggestions from

497
00:12:38,554 --> 00:12:39,830
the reviewers...Janet

498
00:12:39,830 --> 00:12:41,003
...the report and the comments

499
00:12:41,003 --> 00:12:41,762
were pretty

500
00:12:41,762 --> 00:12:42,796
comprehensive, and...I

501
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think...they're all

502
00:12:43,969 --> 00:12:45,245
good additions and

503
00:12:45,245 --> 00:12:52,467
changes. Uh, and Jacob,

504
00:12:52,467 --> 00:12:53,686
I, um, also appreciate

505
00:12:53,686 --> 00:12:54,753
adding a

506
00:12:54,753 --> 00:12:58,196
recovery zone to the plan.

507
00:12:58,196 --> 00:12:59,113
The plants

508
00:12:59,113 --> 00:13:02,296
look good too.

509
00:13:02,296 --> 00:13:03,544
I'm just wondering

510
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if you have a standard

511
00:13:04,758 --> 00:13:05,902
for seeding rates

512
00:13:05,902 --> 00:13:09,458
? It looks like

513
00:13:09,458 --> 00:13:11,272
you have about

514
00:13:11,272 --> 00:13:13,193
7 pounds per 1000 sq ft in total.

515
00:13:13,193 --> 00:13:14,541
feet, but I didn't know

516
00:13:14,541 --> 00:13:15,853
if that was anything like that, or

517
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how you arrived at that

518
00:13:17,165 --> 00:13:18,470
number.

519
00:13:18,470 --> 00:13:19,763
In the replication zone, we

520
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use 10

521
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pounds of the

522
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recovery mix for

523
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dry areas and 4

524
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pounds of the

525
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preservation mix. Uh, in

526
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terms of local

527
00:13:28,878 --> 00:13:30,570
plantings. Uh, that would be

528
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our wetland scientist

529
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. I'm not

530
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sure exactly how

531
00:13:34,218 --> 00:13:37,642
he calculates this. Do

532
00:13:37,642 --> 00:13:40,130
n't worry. I'm

533
00:13:40,130 --> 00:13:41,502
just curious, but, uh

534
00:13:41,502 --> 00:13:43,704
, typically

535
00:13:43,740 --> 00:13:45,112
New England wetland plants and

536
00:13:45,112 --> 00:13:47,061
any other kind of, uh,

537
00:13:47,097 --> 00:13:48,469
grouting compound, uh, would be fine

538
00:13:48,469 --> 00:13:49,732
for this

539
00:13:49,732 --> 00:13:52,189
area. So, uh, that's

540
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all I have. Thank you

541
00:13:54,007 --> 00:13:54,832
, Frank.

542
00:13:54,832 --> 00:13:59,501
Thank you. Uh, Robbie.

543
00:13:59,501 --> 00:14:03,072
Thank you, Frank. Uh,

544
00:14:03,072 --> 00:14:04,013
nice project,

545
00:14:04,013 --> 00:14:05,406
detailed expert

546
00:14:05,406 --> 00:14:07,043
review, uh,

547
00:14:07,077 --> 00:14:07,913
stormwater infrastructure

548
00:14:07,913 --> 00:14:11,077
looks good. Uh,

549
00:14:11,077 --> 00:14:12,655
a few questions about

550
00:14:12,655 --> 00:14:14,025
...I don't know if it's...

551
00:14:14,025 --> 00:14:15,478
StormTech or Coltech. Are there

552
00:14:15,478 --> 00:14:17,569
viewing holes?

553
00:14:17,569 --> 00:14:18,645
Yes. Can you

554
00:14:18,645 --> 00:14:19,610
just move on to the

555
00:14:19,610 --> 00:14:20,691
next sheet in the

556
00:14:20,691 --> 00:14:21,744
plan set,

557
00:14:21,744 --> 00:14:25,818
please? If you, uh,

558
00:14:25,818 --> 00:14:27,049
zoom in on the

559
00:14:27,049 --> 00:14:28,460
infiltration system

560
00:14:28,460 --> 00:14:35,937
, you'll see that there are

561
00:14:35,937 --> 00:14:37,753
three viewing holes.

562
00:14:37,753 --> 00:14:39,097
Uh, those are the circles right in

563
00:14:39,097 --> 00:14:41,292
the middle of the system.

564
00:14:41,292 --> 00:14:44,793
Yes, you,

565
00:14:44,793 --> 00:14:45,954
uh, and then on, uh,

566
00:14:45,954 --> 00:14:47,116
wetland restoration

567
00:14:47,116 --> 00:14:48,244
in the

568
00:14:48,244 --> 00:14:49,439
planting plan, is there a

569
00:14:49,439 --> 00:14:50,191
requirement for

570
00:14:50,191 --> 00:14:56,706
plant survival? Well,

571
00:14:56,706 --> 00:14:58,345
yeah, I mean,

572
00:14:58,345 --> 00:14:59,901
usually I think that,

573
00:14:59,901 --> 00:15:01,252
uh, commissions have a

574
00:15:01,252 --> 00:15:02,522
standard, uh,

575
00:15:02,522 --> 00:15:04,119
time period where you

576
00:15:04,119 --> 00:15:05,757
need to have something

577
00:15:05,757 --> 00:15:08,256
like an 80% survival rate. Uh

578
00:15:08,256 --> 00:15:09,632
, it varies from

579
00:15:09,632 --> 00:15:11,868
commission to commission. Uh

580
00:15:11,868 --> 00:15:13,320
, but it makes sense for a

581
00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,616
project like this.

582
00:15:16,616 --> 00:15:17,949
Good. Maybe we

583
00:15:17,949 --> 00:15:19,272
can provide you with this

584
00:15:19,272 --> 00:15:21,885
information. Er,

585
00:15:21,885 --> 00:15:23,466
10 years.

586
00:15:23,466 --> 00:15:24,818
And then, uh, in terms of

587
00:15:24,818 --> 00:15:26,599
operations and

588
00:15:26,634 --> 00:15:27,951
maintenance, uh,

589
00:15:27,951 --> 00:15:29,055
very comprehensive and

590
00:15:29,055 --> 00:15:31,123
detailed. Uh, I

591
00:15:31,123 --> 00:15:32,417
noticed that the

592
00:15:32,417 --> 00:15:33,859
water quality unit

593
00:15:33,859 --> 00:15:35,263
didn't seem to have a period for

594
00:15:35,263 --> 00:15:38,198
inspection. And I think that's an

595
00:15:38,198 --> 00:15:39,760
important part of

596
00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,281
, uh, you know, protecting the

597
00:15:41,281 --> 00:15:42,442
resource zone,

598
00:15:42,442 --> 00:15:44,615
ultimately. I don't know if

599
00:15:44,615 --> 00:15:46,147
we want to...include,

600
00:15:46,147 --> 00:15:48,179
uh, this. It seems like, uh

601
00:15:48,179 --> 00:15:49,178
, a lot of other

602
00:15:49,178 --> 00:15:50,143
elements have been

603
00:15:50,143 --> 00:15:51,245
determined in terms of

604
00:15:51,245 --> 00:15:52,623
when

605
00:15:52,623 --> 00:15:53,450
the inspections and

606
00:15:53,450 --> 00:15:57,562
cleanups will take place.

607
00:15:57,562 --> 00:15:59,084
Yeah, the reason why, uh

608
00:15:59,084 --> 00:16:00,529
, it's not called...

609
00:16:00,529 --> 00:16:01,154
It's in the, uh,

610
00:16:01,154 --> 00:16:02,364
long-term

611
00:16:02,364 --> 00:16:03,614
maintenance plan

612
00:16:03,614 --> 00:16:06,113
as the

613
00:16:06,152 --> 00:16:09,507
ADS Barracuda Max hydrodynamic separator.

614
00:16:09,507 --> 00:16:11,517
Hmm.

615
00:16:11,517 --> 00:16:12,958
Uh, yeah, well, that

616
00:16:12,958 --> 00:16:16,246
will definitely be included there.

617
00:16:16,246 --> 00:16:23,765
Yes, I do, it

618
00:16:23,765 --> 00:16:25,093
says periodic

619
00:16:25,093 --> 00:16:26,835
inspection.

620
00:16:26,835 --> 00:16:29,005
Oh, okay. You're asking for

621
00:16:29,005 --> 00:16:30,132
more detailed...I

622
00:16:30,132 --> 00:16:32,283
think there's actually

623
00:16:32,318 --> 00:16:33,513
vendor documentation, uh,

624
00:16:33,513 --> 00:16:34,742
for this device

625
00:16:34,742 --> 00:16:37,697
that I can provide.

626
00:16:37,697 --> 00:16:38,100
Yes.

627
00:16:38,100 --> 00:16:40,136
As part of the package.

628
00:16:40,136 --> 00:16:41,441
Yes, what I think the

629
00:16:41,441 --> 00:16:42,858
manufacturer recommends

630
00:16:42,858 --> 00:16:43,753
regarding

631
00:16:43,753 --> 00:16:46,325
inspection frequency. Do you think

632
00:16:46,325 --> 00:16:47,783
these devices can be

633
00:16:47,783 --> 00:16:49,059
filled with, I

634
00:16:49,059 --> 00:16:50,408
mean, plastic

635
00:16:50,408 --> 00:16:51,501
cups and

636
00:16:51,501 --> 00:16:54,607
stuff, bottles and stuff like that?

637
00:16:54,607 --> 00:16:55,879
Yes.

638
00:16:55,879 --> 00:16:56,984
Uh, and then one

639
00:16:56,984 --> 00:16:58,053
detail that I didn't

640
00:16:58,053 --> 00:16:59,491
quite understand is, uh

641
00:16:59,491 --> 00:17:00,007
, about the

642
00:17:00,007 --> 00:17:01,445
culvert

643
00:17:01,445 --> 00:17:04,932
. Does it transfer water

644
00:17:04,932 --> 00:17:06,120
from below to the neighboring

645
00:17:06,120 --> 00:17:08,269
property, or...

646
00:17:08,269 --> 00:17:09,086
No, it goes from the

647
00:17:09,086 --> 00:17:10,329
neighboring property

648
00:17:10,329 --> 00:17:11,409
to the

649
00:17:11,409 --> 00:17:11,869
wetlands.

650
00:17:11,869 --> 00:17:13,562
Hmm.

651
00:17:13,562 --> 00:17:14,780
So it runs

652
00:17:14,780 --> 00:17:15,966
between two houses

653
00:17:15,966 --> 00:17:17,217
to the lowest point and

654
00:17:17,217 --> 00:17:18,179
then it runs

655
00:17:18,179 --> 00:17:19,461
through a...

656
00:17:19,461 --> 00:17:20,327
culvert to the

657
00:17:20,327 --> 00:17:21,385
wetlands under

658
00:17:21,385 --> 00:17:22,635
existing conditions, and that's what

659
00:17:22,635 --> 00:17:24,019
we support.

660
00:17:24,019 --> 00:17:25,245
We're simply increasing

661
00:17:25,245 --> 00:17:25,654
the size of the

662
00:17:25,654 --> 00:17:26,880
culvert

663
00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,044
to accommodate

664
00:17:28,044 --> 00:17:30,057
any

665
00:17:30,088 --> 00:17:31,158
future large downpours that would

666
00:17:31,158 --> 00:17:32,038
otherwise

667
00:17:32,038 --> 00:17:33,170
overflow this

668
00:17:33,170 --> 00:17:33,674
pipe and

669
00:17:33,674 --> 00:17:34,900
spill over the

670
00:17:34,900 --> 00:17:36,287
driveway.

671
00:17:36,287 --> 00:17:38,707
Good. And what is the total

672
00:17:38,707 --> 00:17:40,032
catchment area for

673
00:17:40,032 --> 00:17:41,591
this? Side

674
00:17:41,591 --> 00:17:42,510
load on

675
00:17:42,510 --> 00:17:43,714
private property.

676
00:17:43,714 --> 00:17:45,222
For example, what does he

677
00:17:45,222 --> 00:17:46,077
collect?

678
00:17:46,077 --> 00:17:46,898
I have a map of the

679
00:17:46,898 --> 00:17:48,218
underwater pool

680
00:17:48,218 --> 00:17:55,489
that I can find.

681
00:17:55,489 --> 00:17:59,595
Just curious.

682
00:17:59,595 --> 00:18:19,508
Give me a minute.

683
00:18:19,508 --> 00:18:24,365
I have to...Can

684
00:18:24,365 --> 00:18:28,064
you see this plan?

685
00:18:28,064 --> 00:18:30,548
It's amazing, but I can.

686
00:18:30,548 --> 00:18:31,525
Hmm, I think you

687
00:18:31,525 --> 00:18:32,691
should...people can't

688
00:18:32,691 --> 00:18:34,751
share. Is

689
00:18:34,751 --> 00:18:37,264
that

690
00:18:37,264 --> 00:18:39,047
true? So this, uh,

691
00:18:39,047 --> 00:18:40,565
1S submersible

692
00:18:40,565 --> 00:18:42,379
bypasses this area.

693
00:18:42,379 --> 00:18:43,804
It's leaking from the other

694
00:18:43,804 --> 00:18:45,195
side of the house. And this

695
00:18:45,195 --> 00:18:46,468
2S subbasin,

696
00:18:46,468 --> 00:18:47,776
this small area, is

697
00:18:47,776 --> 00:18:48,978
the only area that

698
00:18:48,978 --> 00:18:49,792
flows into this

699
00:18:49,792 --> 00:18:50,817
culvert

700
00:18:50,817 --> 00:18:52,969
basin.

701
00:18:52,969 --> 00:18:55,243
Good. Hmm, and then

702
00:18:55,243 --> 00:18:56,227
I guess one more

703
00:18:56,227 --> 00:18:57,741
question about, uh, I don't

704
00:18:57,741 --> 00:18:58,991
know, it could be a

705
00:18:58,991 --> 00:19:00,467
communications plan or a

706
00:19:00,467 --> 00:19:03,623
location plan.

707
00:19:03,623 --> 00:19:04,480
The location of

708
00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:05,817
the entrance, is it a shared

709
00:19:05,817 --> 00:19:08,328
entrance?

710
00:19:08,328 --> 00:19:09,583
Yes. This is a shared

711
00:19:09,583 --> 00:19:11,160
driveway. Uh,

712
00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:12,383
this has already been approved, and

713
00:19:12,383 --> 00:19:13,544
we are laying our

714
00:19:13,544 --> 00:19:14,454
access road

715
00:19:14,454 --> 00:19:15,489
according to this

716
00:19:15,489 --> 00:19:16,650
data, approved by the

717
00:19:16,650 --> 00:19:20,432
plan.

718
00:19:20,432 --> 00:19:21,771
You mean the

719
00:19:21,771 --> 00:19:24,371
existing, that is,

720
00:19:24,371 --> 00:19:25,625
uh, existing access

721
00:19:25,625 --> 00:19:26,187
road, there is an

722
00:19:26,187 --> 00:19:27,309
approved

723
00:19:27,309 --> 00:19:28,465
shared access

724
00:19:28,465 --> 00:19:29,456
road plan that is

725
00:19:29,456 --> 00:19:30,645
sized at, um, the

726
00:19:30,645 --> 00:19:31,437
turning area on the

727
00:19:31,437 --> 00:19:32,593
shared access

728
00:19:32,593 --> 00:19:33,914
road that has not yet been

729
00:19:33,914 --> 00:19:35,103
built, so we are

730
00:19:35,103 --> 00:19:35,961
completing its

731
00:19:35,961 --> 00:19:37,249
construction as part of

732
00:19:37,249 --> 00:19:38,967
this project.

733
00:19:38,967 --> 00:19:41,566
Hmm. And does

734
00:19:41,566 --> 00:19:42,908
this access road require a

735
00:19:42,908 --> 00:19:43,948
setback from the

736
00:19:43,948 --> 00:19:48,468
property line?

737
00:19:48,468 --> 00:19:49,796
Uh, we're comparing the

738
00:19:49,796 --> 00:19:51,315
existing setback, uh,

739
00:19:51,315 --> 00:19:52,264
on the street, and with the

740
00:19:52,264 --> 00:19:53,365
existing, um, on the

741
00:19:53,365 --> 00:19:54,884
north side, we're

742
00:19:54,884 --> 00:19:55,947
comparing those

743
00:19:55,947 --> 00:19:57,427
existing lines where, um, it

744
00:19:57,427 --> 00:19:58,566
extends on the

745
00:19:58,566 --> 00:20:00,009
south side, and there's

746
00:20:00,009 --> 00:20:01,490
no, um, actual

747
00:20:01,490 --> 00:20:02,742
clear setback

748
00:20:02,742 --> 00:20:12,934
that's needed.

749
00:20:12,934 --> 00:20:13,837
And then this...Does

750
00:20:13,837 --> 00:20:15,053
this require a

751
00:20:15,053 --> 00:20:16,303
special permit

752
00:20:16,303 --> 00:20:17,637
from the ZBA or

753
00:20:17,637 --> 00:20:18,217
not...

754
00:20:18,217 --> 00:20:19,148
No.

755
00:20:19,148 --> 00:20:20,491
Planning board review?

756
00:20:20,491 --> 00:20:21,599
No, it's protected by the

757
00:20:21,599 --> 00:20:24,491
Dover Amendment. Er,

758
00:20:24,491 --> 00:20:25,539
so it's a bypass

759
00:20:25,539 --> 00:20:26,797
road, it needs to

760
00:20:26,797 --> 00:20:27,705
be considered as a

761
00:20:27,705 --> 00:20:28,997
separate house to

762
00:20:28,997 --> 00:20:29,906
get, um, a

763
00:20:29,906 --> 00:20:34,522
permit. And generally, that

764
00:20:34,522 --> 00:20:35,854
means that if it

765
00:20:35,854 --> 00:20:36,741
doesn't meet

766
00:20:36,741 --> 00:20:38,073
the requirements for

767
00:20:38,073 --> 00:20:39,371
site plan review because of,

768
00:20:39,371 --> 00:20:40,668
um, such terrain...

769
00:20:40,668 --> 00:20:41,795
violations or something

770
00:20:41,795 --> 00:20:42,717
like that, um, it's

771
00:20:42,717 --> 00:20:53,232
exempt from that.

772
00:20:53,232 --> 00:20:54,602
Um, I just asked

773
00:20:54,602 --> 00:20:56,045
because it seems like more or

774
00:20:56,045 --> 00:20:56,983
less of the

775
00:20:56,983 --> 00:20:58,101
driveway

776
00:20:58,101 --> 00:20:59,507
could have been within the 50-

777
00:20:59,507 --> 00:21:00,661
foot buffer

778
00:21:00,661 --> 00:21:02,104
if it was closer

779
00:21:02,104 --> 00:21:03,439
to the property line, and

780
00:21:03,439 --> 00:21:04,376
then, you know,

781
00:21:04,376 --> 00:21:05,386
the geometry was

782
00:21:05,386 --> 00:21:06,829
changed in some way

783
00:21:06,829 --> 00:21:11,326
to, um, reduce that.

784
00:21:11,326 --> 00:21:13,112
Hmm, that makes sense. So

785
00:21:13,112 --> 00:21:13,794
if you can,

786
00:21:13,794 --> 00:21:15,632
go to the

787
00:21:15,662 --> 00:21:16,818
planning materials sheet, just the one

788
00:21:16,818 --> 00:21:21,648
before this one. So,

789
00:21:21,648 --> 00:21:22,994
you see, um, let

790
00:21:22,994 --> 00:21:23,754
me just

791
00:21:23,754 --> 00:21:24,651
ask you

792
00:21:24,651 --> 00:21:25,860
to repeat what you

793
00:21:25,860 --> 00:21:28,753
said.

794
00:21:28,753 --> 00:21:30,252
So if there is, if the

795
00:21:30,252 --> 00:21:31,564
driveway, as

796
00:21:31,564 --> 00:21:32,576
shown, is kind of

797
00:21:32,576 --> 00:21:33,663
shifted to the

798
00:21:33,663 --> 00:21:39,489
property line, I think,

799
00:21:39,489 --> 00:21:40,663
northeast, and

800
00:21:40,663 --> 00:21:41,911
then, and then, um, I

801
00:21:41,911 --> 00:21:43,966
think, the right turn

802
00:21:44,003 --> 00:21:50,958
is altered in some way. It looks like

803
00:21:50,958 --> 00:21:52,276
you could almost

804
00:21:52,276 --> 00:21:53,594
completely avoid the 50-

805
00:21:53,594 --> 00:21:55,019
foot buffer in the

806
00:21:55,019 --> 00:21:56,443
part where the

807
00:21:56,443 --> 00:21:59,332
driveway crosses. If

808
00:21:59,332 --> 00:22:01,174
that makes sense.

809
00:22:01,174 --> 00:22:02,236
Well, we're trying to

810
00:22:02,236 --> 00:22:03,018
minimize

811
00:22:03,018 --> 00:22:04,112
the disruption there, and we

812
00:22:04,112 --> 00:22:04,924
also have to

813
00:22:04,924 --> 00:22:05,737
build it

814
00:22:05,737 --> 00:22:06,862
according to what

815
00:22:06,862 --> 00:22:08,113
was approved in the

816
00:22:08,113 --> 00:22:09,019
access

817
00:22:09,019 --> 00:22:09,894
road plan, where there were

818
00:22:09,894 --> 00:22:11,941
setbacks. Um, and if

819
00:22:11,941 --> 00:22:13,056
you go to the

820
00:22:13,056 --> 00:22:14,453
gradation sheet,

821
00:22:14,453 --> 00:22:18,126
um,

822
00:22:18,126 --> 00:22:19,287
this whole area there is

823
00:22:19,287 --> 00:22:20,106
covered by this

824
00:22:20,106 --> 00:22:21,438
watershed

825
00:22:21,438 --> 00:22:23,514
. Therefore, no stream from

826
00:22:23,514 --> 00:22:24,494
this area

827
00:22:24,494 --> 00:22:25,609
enters the

828
00:22:25,609 --> 00:22:26,757
wetlands without

829
00:22:26,757 --> 00:22:27,771
passing through the

830
00:22:27,771 --> 00:22:31,419
system. Um,

831
00:22:31,419 --> 00:22:32,558
moving it

832
00:22:32,558 --> 00:22:33,875
further, uh, would create an

833
00:22:33,875 --> 00:22:35,264
awkward layout

834
00:22:35,264 --> 00:22:36,616
because we would have to

835
00:22:36,616 --> 00:22:37,791
pull our

836
00:22:37,791 --> 00:22:38,895
driveway

837
00:22:38,895 --> 00:22:39,856
tight to this

838
00:22:39,856 --> 00:22:41,280
dotted line, which

839
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:42,526
is...which is, um, the

840
00:22:42,526 --> 00:22:43,772
shared

841
00:22:43,772 --> 00:22:48,554
driveway line. And then we would...

842
00:22:48,554 --> 00:22:49,820
be modifying outside of

843
00:22:49,820 --> 00:22:50,619
our

844
00:22:50,619 --> 00:22:51,884
easement area, which

845
00:22:51,884 --> 00:22:52,917
we're not really

846
00:22:52,917 --> 00:22:54,116
allowed to do, and

847
00:22:54,116 --> 00:22:54,915
we also wouldn't be

848
00:22:54,915 --> 00:22:55,947
compliant with...um,

849
00:22:55,947 --> 00:22:57,280
the permission granted for the

850
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,545
shared

851
00:22:58,545 --> 00:23:01,283
access road planning.

852
00:23:01,283 --> 00:23:04,146
Ahem. And this permit that

853
00:23:04,146 --> 00:23:05,984
was granted, did the

854
00:23:06,018 --> 00:23:07,321
applicant apply for this permit

855
00:23:07,321 --> 00:23:09,473
? Was it the

856
00:23:09,473 --> 00:23:10,664
previous

857
00:23:10,664 --> 00:23:12,130
owner, I guess.

858
00:23:12,130 --> 00:23:17,126
Okay, I understand.

859
00:23:17,126 --> 00:23:18,445
Um, Robbie, a little

860
00:23:18,445 --> 00:23:19,538
idea of ​​this

861
00:23:19,538 --> 00:23:20,820
piece of land that

862
00:23:20,820 --> 00:23:22,328
has been allocated, um, for

863
00:23:22,328 --> 00:23:26,103
these projects. The house

864
00:23:26,103 --> 00:23:27,143
next door was

865
00:23:27,143 --> 00:23:29,869
affordable. And

866
00:23:29,869 --> 00:23:31,086
at that time, I think

867
00:23:31,086 --> 00:23:32,373
the city owned this

868
00:23:32,373 --> 00:23:33,243
property, we

869
00:23:33,243 --> 00:23:34,425
were trying to find a

870
00:23:34,425 --> 00:23:35,642
way to bring them in and

871
00:23:35,642 --> 00:23:36,860
also get around the

872
00:23:36,860 --> 00:23:39,454
wetlands. And there was

873
00:23:39,454 --> 00:23:40,851
another applicant who

874
00:23:40,851 --> 00:23:41,783
started and then

875
00:23:41,783 --> 00:23:46,167
backed down. Um, and so, uh

876
00:23:46,167 --> 00:23:47,641
, the group that's here

877
00:23:47,641 --> 00:23:48,473
with us now seems to

878
00:23:48,473 --> 00:23:49,871
have inherited some of

879
00:23:49,871 --> 00:23:53,142
those parts. When you're

880
00:23:53,142 --> 00:23:54,354
done with yours,

881
00:23:54,354 --> 00:23:55,530
Robbie, maybe we can

882
00:23:55,530 --> 00:23:56,635
back off if

883
00:23:56,635 --> 00:23:58,143
Janet's still online. I don't

884
00:23:58,143 --> 00:23:59,354
know if she's still with

885
00:23:59,354 --> 00:24:00,173
us or not.

886
00:24:00,173 --> 00:24:01,579
I'm still here.

887
00:24:01,579 --> 00:24:02,679
Okay, if you

888
00:24:02,679 --> 00:24:03,957
accept that, maybe

889
00:24:03,957 --> 00:24:04,951
you could

890
00:24:04,951 --> 00:24:07,504
comment too. Um,

891
00:24:07,504 --> 00:24:08,405
if there's any

892
00:24:08,405 --> 00:24:09,776
information that

893
00:24:09,776 --> 00:24:11,225
you think should be

894
00:24:11,225 --> 00:24:15,521
considered. Sorry.

895
00:24:15,521 --> 00:24:18,029
Yes, that was it. I was

896
00:24:18,029 --> 00:24:19,075
just trying

897
00:24:19,075 --> 00:24:19,958
to understand, uh, the

898
00:24:19,958 --> 00:24:21,136
origins of the

899
00:24:21,136 --> 00:24:22,313
driveway design and

900
00:24:22,313 --> 00:24:23,426
how it affects

901
00:24:23,426 --> 00:24:26,836
resource capabilities.

902
00:24:26,836 --> 00:24:28,776
Therefore. Um,

903
00:24:28,776 --> 00:24:30,125
no more questions from me

904
00:24:30,125 --> 00:24:32,061
. Thank you.

905
00:24:32,061 --> 00:24:35,262
Um, Janet, everything

906
00:24:35,262 --> 00:24:36,856
in these comments

907
00:24:36,856 --> 00:24:40,462
that you want...

908
00:24:40,462 --> 00:24:47,146
Um, I don't think so. I

909
00:24:47,146 --> 00:24:48,493
noticed on the...uh, that on

910
00:24:48,493 --> 00:24:49,701
the sheet of better

911
00:24:49,701 --> 00:24:51,013
materials plan at the entrance

912
00:24:51,013 --> 00:24:52,290
to the road, where the

913
00:24:52,290 --> 00:24:53,602
driveway first connects

914
00:24:53,602 --> 00:24:54,845
, it's a small

915
00:24:54,845 --> 00:24:55,777
area that I

916
00:24:55,777 --> 00:24:56,779
assume was

917
00:24:56,779 --> 00:24:57,953
built where

918
00:24:57,953 --> 00:25:04,336
that 20-foot measurement is.

919
00:25:04,336 --> 00:25:05,378
Yes, this is an existing

920
00:25:05,378 --> 00:25:06,830
asphalt area

921
00:25:06,830 --> 00:25:10,099
. After it is gravel.

922
00:25:10,099 --> 00:25:11,384
And so...There's a gravel

923
00:25:11,384 --> 00:25:12,604
driveway that

924
00:25:12,604 --> 00:25:13,592
goes over an

925
00:25:13,592 --> 00:25:14,087
existing

926
00:25:14,087 --> 00:25:15,339
culvert

927
00:25:15,339 --> 00:25:16,961
underneath it, and you...

928
00:25:16,961 --> 00:25:17,365
Yeah...

929
00:25:17,365 --> 00:25:19,434
meet. So,

930
00:25:19,434 --> 00:25:20,212
yes, the beginning of the

931
00:25:20,212 --> 00:25:21,563
access road seems to

932
00:25:21,563 --> 00:25:22,645
be established from

933
00:25:22,645 --> 00:25:23,523
this existing

934
00:25:23,523 --> 00:25:24,436
asphalted

935
00:25:24,436 --> 00:25:27,868
area. And the rest is,

936
00:25:27,868 --> 00:25:28,894
in fact, replacing

937
00:25:28,894 --> 00:25:32,454
gravel with pavement.

938
00:25:32,454 --> 00:25:39,347
So this is not unusual.

939
00:25:39,347 --> 00:25:56,174
Good. Um...Um...Someone...

940
00:25:56,174 --> 00:25:57,124
given this

941
00:25:57,124 --> 00:25:58,550
discussion, someone else

942
00:25:58,550 --> 00:26:03,108
...going back to the

943
00:26:03,108 --> 00:26:04,405
members...someone else wants

944
00:26:04,405 --> 00:26:05,502
...It seems

945
00:26:05,502 --> 00:26:12,204
pretty good there...

946
00:26:12,204 --> 00:26:13,366
Does the city or the

947
00:26:13,366 --> 00:26:14,711
commission have a requirement for

948
00:26:14,711 --> 00:26:20,612
plant survival?

949
00:26:20,612 --> 00:26:23,392
Sorry. What...What was the

950
00:26:23,392 --> 00:26:25,432
question, Robert?

951
00:26:25,432 --> 00:26:26,619
Like plantings, should

952
00:26:26,619 --> 00:26:27,875
they survive a

953
00:26:27,875 --> 00:26:28,451
year or should they be

954
00:26:28,451 --> 00:26:30,515
transplanted?

955
00:26:30,515 --> 00:26:31,574
Um, we usually

956
00:26:31,574 --> 00:26:33,013
stipulate 3 years of

957
00:26:33,013 --> 00:26:34,002
monitoring.

958
00:26:34,002 --> 00:26:35,595
This is standard, I think,

959
00:26:35,595 --> 00:26:37,021
too. You usually

960
00:26:37,021 --> 00:26:39,942
see this.

961
00:26:39,942 --> 00:26:41,392
Great, thank you.

962
00:26:41,392 --> 00:26:43,622
And I believe this is a mitigation zone

963
00:26:43,659 --> 00:26:45,439
. This is not a

964
00:26:45,439 --> 00:26:46,505
replication zone.

965
00:26:46,505 --> 00:26:49,220
Right.

966
00:26:49,220 --> 00:26:52,052
Good. Um, do we have

967
00:26:52,052 --> 00:26:53,494
anyone in the audience for

968
00:26:53,494 --> 00:26:59,065
this?

969
00:26:59,065 --> 00:27:00,359
Um, I don't see...I don't

970
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,787
see any hands raised.

971
00:27:03,787 --> 00:27:05,535
Good. Jen,

972
00:27:05,535 --> 00:27:06,819
considering the comments

973
00:27:06,819 --> 00:27:08,004
that were not made on

974
00:27:08,004 --> 00:27:09,288
this subject...

975
00:27:09,288 --> 00:27:14,960
we discussed it a bit. Um,

976
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,107
if the committee members

977
00:27:16,107 --> 00:27:17,353
are inclined to close, would

978
00:27:17,353 --> 00:27:18,370
you like to

979
00:27:18,370 --> 00:27:19,649
close and then give

980
00:27:19,649 --> 00:27:20,567
you an opportunity

981
00:27:20,567 --> 00:27:21,846
to work through a few, um

982
00:27:21,846 --> 00:27:25,373
, issues that

983
00:27:25,373 --> 00:27:26,178
were discussed

984
00:27:26,178 --> 00:27:27,178
tonight, in

985
00:27:27,178 --> 00:27:28,150
terms of

986
00:27:28,150 --> 00:27:29,334
bringing them up for consideration?

987
00:27:29,334 --> 00:27:31,045
Um, yes, that's right. I wouldn't

988
00:27:31,045 --> 00:27:32,546
want to give it away. I would

989
00:27:32,546 --> 00:27:33,386
like you to

990
00:27:33,386 --> 00:27:34,682
see the project, um,

991
00:27:34,682 --> 00:27:35,907
give you the terms and conditions

992
00:27:35,907 --> 00:27:36,922
for your consideration.

993
00:27:36,922 --> 00:27:38,531
Provided it's only 2

994
00:27:38,531 --> 00:27:39,712
weeks.

995
00:27:39,712 --> 00:27:40,827
Provided that other

996
00:27:40,827 --> 00:27:41,763
members are inclined to

997
00:27:41,763 --> 00:27:46,127
do the same. Um, do

998
00:27:46,127 --> 00:27:47,031
you need

999
00:27:47,031 --> 00:27:49,121
a suggestion, Frank?

1000
00:27:49,121 --> 00:27:51,020
Does everyone agree with this?

1001
00:27:51,020 --> 00:27:52,077
Does this make sense

1002
00:27:52,077 --> 00:27:53,838
to you, Jacob? Um

1003
00:27:53,838 --> 00:27:54,020
,

1004
00:27:54,020 --> 00:27:55,942
yeah, I think that, um, that would

1005
00:27:55,942 --> 00:27:57,996
work. This will give us,

1006
00:27:57,996 --> 00:27:59,219
um, the opportunity to go

1007
00:27:59,219 --> 00:28:00,271
and decide on

1008
00:28:00,271 --> 00:28:02,868
pricing.

1009
00:28:02,868 --> 00:28:04,809
Good.

1010
00:28:04,809 --> 00:28:07,710
Um, okay, Penny.

1011
00:28:07,710 --> 00:28:08,849
So, I'm making a

1012
00:28:08,849 --> 00:28:10,178
motion to

1013
00:28:10,178 --> 00:28:11,507
close, um, 165

1014
00:28:11,507 --> 00:28:15,227
Stockbridge.

1015
00:28:15,227 --> 00:28:16,832
Good. Is everything okay,

1016
00:28:16,832 --> 00:28:18,599
is that so? Thank you, Penny.

1017
00:28:18,599 --> 00:28:22,424
Um, Brendan. Do

1018
00:28:22,424 --> 00:28:23,410
you want me to

1019
00:28:23,410 --> 00:28:24,328
support this? I

1020
00:28:24,328 --> 00:28:25,213
will support.

1021
00:28:25,213 --> 00:28:25,968
Please.

1022
00:28:25,968 --> 00:28:27,044
Thank you. Yes.

1023
00:28:27,044 --> 00:28:28,109
I will support.

1024
00:28:28,109 --> 00:28:32,248
Sorry about that. Um, Eric?

1025
00:28:32,248 --> 00:28:33,358
Yes.

1026
00:28:33,358 --> 00:28:35,007
And Robbie?

1027
00:28:35,007 --> 00:28:35,905
Yes.

1028
00:28:35,905 --> 00:28:37,806
And Frank? Yes. Perfectly.

1029
00:28:37,806 --> 00:28:38,649
Thank you for...

1030
00:28:38,649 --> 00:28:40,164
Thank you very much. Good

1031
00:28:40,164 --> 00:28:41,103
evening. Be

1032
00:28:41,103 --> 00:28:44,064
healthy. Thank you. Thank you.

1033
00:28:44,064 --> 00:28:44,761
See you later.

1034
00:28:44,761 --> 00:28:46,185
Thank you, Jen. Um...

1035
00:28:46,185 --> 00:28:50,867
Good...Yes.

1036
00:28:50,867 --> 00:28:55,535
Um...208 Stockbridge.

1037
00:28:55,535 --> 00:28:56,579
It seems the applicants

1038
00:28:56,579 --> 00:28:58,049
are asking to continue...

1039
00:28:58,049 --> 00:29:00,559
Frank, isn't

1040
00:29:00,597 --> 00:29:01,559
50 Oceanside Street our next stop?

1041
00:29:01,559 --> 00:29:03,534
Oh, God. Sorry. I so

1042
00:29:03,534 --> 00:29:04,878
want to move on,

1043
00:29:04,878 --> 00:29:07,492
Jen. My apologies.

1044
00:29:07,492 --> 00:29:11,827
Um...On September 21, 2026

1045
00:29:11,827 --> 00:29:13,034
at 6:00 p.m., the

1046
00:29:13,034 --> 00:29:14,196
Sites Conservation Commission

1047
00:29:14,196 --> 00:29:15,984
will hold a

1048
00:29:15,984 --> 00:29:17,638
Wetlands Hearing

1049
00:29:17,638 --> 00:29:19,113
under Section

1050
00:29:19,113 --> 00:29:20,857
131 of Title 40 of the

1051
00:29:20,857 --> 00:29:22,645
Massachusetts Statutes

1052
00:29:22,645 --> 00:29:24,164
on the Condition of the Order

1053
00:29:24,164 --> 00:29:25,640
issued under

1054
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,428
File Number DEP 068-3198,

1055
00:29:27,428 --> 00:29:28,903
upon the request of the Helen Hazard

1056
00:29:28,903 --> 00:29:30,020
Revocable Trust for

1057
00:29:30,020 --> 00:29:31,585
the extension of the terrace

1058
00:29:31,585 --> 00:29:34,401
located at

1059
00:29:34,446 --> 00:29:35,965
50 Oceanside Drive. Abters and

1060
00:29:35,965 --> 00:29:37,396
other interested

1061
00:29:37,396 --> 00:29:39,184
parties are invited

1062
00:29:39,184 --> 00:29:41,373
to attend. Access to

1063
00:29:41,401 --> 00:29:42,514
meeting information is available in the

1064
00:29:42,514 --> 00:29:43,399
agenda

1065
00:29:43,399 --> 00:29:44,369
published on the

1066
00:29:44,369 --> 00:29:46,950
website.

1067
00:29:46,950 --> 00:29:48,317
Good evening. This is

1068
00:29:48,317 --> 00:29:49,363
Greg Morse.

1069
00:29:49,363 --> 00:29:50,465
Hi, Greg.

1070
00:29:50,465 --> 00:29:51,926
Greetings. For the record

1071
00:29:51,926 --> 00:29:52,860
, Gregory Morse,

1072
00:29:52,860 --> 00:29:53,932
registered...

1073
00:29:53,932 --> 00:29:55,333
engineer, Morse Engineering. I

1074
00:29:55,333 --> 00:29:57,008
represent the

1075
00:29:57,008 --> 00:29:58,683
property owner, Helen S. Hazard

1076
00:29:58,683 --> 00:30:00,545
Revocable Trust. This is a new

1077
00:30:00,545 --> 00:30:02,414
house at 50

1078
00:30:02,414 --> 00:30:04,446
Oceanside Drive. The Commission

1079
00:30:04,446 --> 00:30:05,301
considered the

1080
00:30:05,301 --> 00:30:06,386
matter and previously

1081
00:30:06,386 --> 00:30:07,405
issued an order on

1082
00:30:07,405 --> 00:30:10,498
conditions. The house itself is

1083
00:30:10,498 --> 00:30:12,479
currently under construction. Hmm,

1084
00:30:12,479 --> 00:30:13,360
this property

1085
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:14,617
is on land

1086
00:30:14,617 --> 00:30:15,435
subject to

1087
00:30:15,435 --> 00:30:16,221
coastal

1088
00:30:16,221 --> 00:30:18,358
storm runoff. This is a

1089
00:30:18,358 --> 00:30:19,720
speed zone at

1090
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:20,918
altitude 18 along the

1091
00:30:20,918 --> 00:30:23,147
Atlantic Ocean.

1092
00:30:23,147 --> 00:30:24,227
And then when you

1093
00:30:24,227 --> 00:30:26,723
get to where the

1094
00:30:26,761 --> 00:30:27,841
house is, it's AE at

1095
00:30:27,841 --> 00:30:29,294
15. Again

1096
00:30:29,294 --> 00:30:30,673
, the house was previously

1097
00:30:30,673 --> 00:30:32,078
approved. Work on

1098
00:30:32,078 --> 00:30:33,005
this project has already

1099
00:30:33,005 --> 00:30:33,932
begun, but

1100
00:30:33,932 --> 00:30:35,038
tonight we are

1101
00:30:35,038 --> 00:30:35,874
requesting an

1102
00:30:35,874 --> 00:30:36,861
amendment to this

1103
00:30:36,861 --> 00:30:39,031
order of conditions. And

1104
00:30:39,031 --> 00:30:40,302
the amendment

1105
00:30:40,302 --> 00:30:41,640
specifically concerns the terrace, which is

1106
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:42,845
located behind

1107
00:30:42,845 --> 00:30:45,343
the house. Hmm, a

1108
00:30:45,343 --> 00:30:46,714
terrace

1109
00:30:46,714 --> 00:30:47,875
at the back of

1110
00:30:47,875 --> 00:30:50,036
the house was previously approved. We would like to

1111
00:30:50,036 --> 00:30:51,380
extend this terrace

1112
00:30:51,380 --> 00:30:52,760
about 14 feet

1113
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:53,886
further out to the

1114
00:30:53,886 --> 00:30:57,822
seawall. This requires

1115
00:30:57,822 --> 00:30:59,028
the installation of six

1116
00:30:59,028 --> 00:30:59,966
additional, ahem,

1117
00:30:59,966 --> 00:31:01,071
concrete piles to

1118
00:31:01,071 --> 00:31:02,411
support the

1119
00:31:02,411 --> 00:31:05,815
terrace extension. Hmm,

1120
00:31:05,815 --> 00:31:06,795
the terrace itself will be

1121
00:31:06,795 --> 00:31:08,532
about 1 1/2 feet

1122
00:31:08,532 --> 00:31:10,696
from the seawall.

1123
00:31:10,696 --> 00:31:11,809
Under the terrace it is

1124
00:31:11,809 --> 00:31:13,500
paved with cobblestones.

1125
00:31:13,500 --> 00:31:14,650
Um...it will remain a

1126
00:31:14,650 --> 00:31:16,632
cobblestone. The deck is

1127
00:31:16,632 --> 00:31:19,284
significantly raised. Um, the

1128
00:31:19,284 --> 00:31:20,927
existing

1129
00:31:20,927 --> 00:31:22,828
ground surface is about

1130
00:31:22,828 --> 00:31:24,574
16. The deck

1131
00:31:24,574 --> 00:31:27,365
will be at 21.6.

1132
00:31:27,365 --> 00:31:28,370
Um, the adjacent

1133
00:31:28,370 --> 00:31:29,860
elements on both sides

1134
00:31:29,860 --> 00:31:32,543
have decks. They don't

1135
00:31:32,573 --> 00:31:33,544
extend as far to the

1136
00:31:33,544 --> 00:31:34,636
sea wall, but they do

1137
00:31:34,636 --> 00:31:35,424
have concrete

1138
00:31:35,424 --> 00:31:36,607
patios to the

1139
00:31:36,607 --> 00:31:38,930
sea wall. We

1140
00:31:38,930 --> 00:31:39,967
understand we can't

1141
00:31:39,967 --> 00:31:40,935
do a

1142
00:31:40,935 --> 00:31:42,248
concrete

1143
00:31:42,248 --> 00:31:43,596
patio, but we want to

1144
00:31:43,596 --> 00:31:44,979
extend the deck, uh,

1145
00:31:44,979 --> 00:31:46,119
like a raised deck

1146
00:31:46,119 --> 00:31:47,467
about 14 feet,

1147
00:31:47,467 --> 00:31:48,780
as shown in this

1148
00:31:48,780 --> 00:31:50,795
plan. So I'm passing it on to

1149
00:31:50,795 --> 00:31:54,468
you.

1150
00:31:54,468 --> 00:32:03,053
Good. Jen?

1151
00:32:03,053 --> 00:32:04,449
I think, uh, I saw

1152
00:32:04,449 --> 00:32:05,416
on this plan

1153
00:32:05,416 --> 00:32:06,741
the distance from the deck

1154
00:32:06,741 --> 00:32:07,815
to the wall where, uh, the

1155
00:32:07,815 --> 00:32:12,973
pylons would be. That's not

1156
00:32:12,973 --> 00:32:13,946
true...So the

1157
00:32:13,946 --> 00:32:15,123
pylons are

1158
00:32:15,123 --> 00:32:16,267
3 feet

1159
00:32:16,267 --> 00:32:18,130
from the sea wall.

1160
00:32:18,130 --> 00:32:19,038
And the deck

1161
00:32:19,038 --> 00:32:21,088
tilts slightly above them.

1162
00:32:21,088 --> 00:32:21,745
The deck itself

1163
00:32:21,745 --> 00:32:22,432
is

1164
00:32:22,432 --> 00:32:23,596
about a foot and a half

1165
00:32:23,596 --> 00:32:24,582
from the sea

1166
00:32:24,582 --> 00:32:25,688
wall.

1167
00:32:25,688 --> 00:32:33,148
Hmm. Uh, no. Good. I

1168
00:32:33,148 --> 00:32:34,202
mean, uh, it's

1169
00:32:34,202 --> 00:32:35,222
always a

1170
00:32:35,222 --> 00:32:36,412
concern when

1171
00:32:36,412 --> 00:32:37,636
she's so close to the

1172
00:32:37,636 --> 00:32:38,928
wall when

1173
00:32:38,928 --> 00:32:40,050
any

1174
00:32:40,050 --> 00:32:42,407
work needs to be done. seawall

1175
00:32:42,407 --> 00:32:43,906
Then this, I think, is the

1176
00:32:43,906 --> 00:32:45,327
comment I want to

1177
00:32:45,327 --> 00:32:52,724
share. Hmm, I...At

1178
00:32:52,724 --> 00:32:54,117
this point...I have

1179
00:32:54,117 --> 00:32:56,567
no other questions.

1180
00:32:56,567 --> 00:33:07,248
Good. Hmm, Brendan?

1181
00:33:07,248 --> 00:33:10,733
Yes, thank you, Frank. Hmm,

1182
00:33:10,733 --> 00:33:12,238
yeah, I don't...I don't...er...I

1183
00:33:12,238 --> 00:33:13,048
don't...I don't

1184
00:33:13,048 --> 00:33:14,167
like the

1185
00:33:14,167 --> 00:33:15,711
terrace being so close to the

1186
00:33:15,711 --> 00:33:18,390
wall. I can't

1187
00:33:18,390 --> 00:33:19,792
talk to you about

1188
00:33:19,792 --> 00:33:20,809
the neighbors and their

1189
00:33:20,809 --> 00:33:21,755
concrete patios,

1190
00:33:21,755 --> 00:33:23,088
how old they are or

1191
00:33:23,088 --> 00:33:24,350
when they were installed,

1192
00:33:24,350 --> 00:33:25,542
but...I would...I would like to

1193
00:33:25,542 --> 00:33:26,699
see it from behind the

1194
00:33:26,699 --> 00:33:30,380
wall. Probably 3

1195
00:33:30,380 --> 00:33:33,366
feet. It's simple... If

1196
00:33:33,366 --> 00:33:34,294
work needs to

1197
00:33:34,294 --> 00:33:35,500
be done on this wall

1198
00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:36,458
, no one is going to want to

1199
00:33:36,458 --> 00:33:37,540
do the work

1200
00:33:37,540 --> 00:33:38,468
when they're a

1201
00:33:38,468 --> 00:33:39,426
foot and a half away from

1202
00:33:39,426 --> 00:33:40,957
your patio. You know,

1203
00:33:40,957 --> 00:33:41,895
we need to be

1204
00:33:41,895 --> 00:33:43,032
able to work

1205
00:33:43,032 --> 00:33:44,286
on the wall. Because everyone

1206
00:33:44,286 --> 00:33:47,516
loves a wall that's...

1207
00:33:47,516 --> 00:33:50,028
er, stable.

1208
00:33:50,028 --> 00:33:57,226
Good. Uh, Eric?

1209
00:33:57,226 --> 00:33:58,463
Hmm, yeah, I think from

1210
00:33:58,463 --> 00:33:59,894
my perspective, uh,

1211
00:33:59,894 --> 00:34:01,364
similar to Brendan,

1212
00:34:01,364 --> 00:34:02,524
uh, we just

1213
00:34:02,524 --> 00:34:04,033
can't go straight

1214
00:34:04,033 --> 00:34:08,608
to the wall. Hmm, you know, 18

1215
00:34:08,608 --> 00:34:10,031
inches is just

1216
00:34:10,031 --> 00:34:11,501
too far, I

1217
00:34:11,501 --> 00:34:14,896
think. Hmm I think

1218
00:34:14,896 --> 00:34:16,311
any movement closer

1219
00:34:16,311 --> 00:34:17,092
to the ocean is

1220
00:34:17,092 --> 00:34:19,925
impractical. Uh,

1221
00:34:19,925 --> 00:34:21,185
especially something so

1222
00:34:21,185 --> 00:34:22,561
close, uh, even

1223
00:34:22,561 --> 00:34:23,706
considering its

1224
00:34:23,706 --> 00:34:25,120
height, uh, which it is

1225
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,037
above the existing

1226
00:34:26,037 --> 00:34:30,119
seawall. Uh,

1227
00:34:30,119 --> 00:34:31,122
as far as

1228
00:34:31,122 --> 00:34:33,126
preventing

1229
00:34:33,165 --> 00:34:34,552
storm damage, uh, I think

1230
00:34:34,552 --> 00:34:35,786
it's in

1231
00:34:35,786 --> 00:34:36,865
everyone's best interest: the applicant, the

1232
00:34:36,865 --> 00:34:41,796
neighbors, etc. Uh, to make

1233
00:34:41,796 --> 00:34:43,212
it as far away

1234
00:34:43,212 --> 00:34:44,405
from this wall and the

1235
00:34:44,405 --> 00:34:45,597
ocean as possible, uh, and I don't

1236
00:34:45,597 --> 00:34:48,429
think 18 inches is as far away

1237
00:34:48,467 --> 00:34:49,846
as we can

1238
00:34:49,846 --> 00:34:54,164
reasonably get. This is the

1239
00:34:54,164 --> 00:34:55,656
best. This is my

1240
00:34:55,656 --> 00:34:56,591
position on this

1241
00:34:56,591 --> 00:34:57,591
issue at the

1242
00:34:57,591 --> 00:35:00,387
moment. Thank you.

1243
00:35:00,387 --> 00:35:05,814
Good. Uh, Robbie.

1244
00:35:05,814 --> 00:35:07,001
I think the deck

1245
00:35:07,001 --> 00:35:08,261
is in the

1246
00:35:08,261 --> 00:35:10,273
speed zone?

1247
00:35:10,273 --> 00:35:11,889
Yes, that's right.

1248
00:35:11,889 --> 00:35:12,616
And then it is

1249
00:35:12,616 --> 00:35:13,503
attached to the

1250
00:35:13,503 --> 00:35:15,386
structure?

1251
00:35:15,386 --> 00:35:16,551
No, it

1252
00:35:16,551 --> 00:35:18,889
stands alone. Will

1253
00:35:18,889 --> 00:35:20,081
this be the engineering

1254
00:35:20,081 --> 00:35:22,457
deck?

1255
00:35:22,457 --> 00:35:23,724
Yes, the proposed

1256
00:35:23,724 --> 00:35:24,557
deck is already an

1257
00:35:24,557 --> 00:35:26,197
engineering deck.

1258
00:35:26,197 --> 00:35:27,364
This will simply be a

1259
00:35:27,364 --> 00:35:30,828
continuation of it.

1260
00:35:30,828 --> 00:35:34,783
Good. Uh, and then this is the

1261
00:35:34,783 --> 00:35:35,995
revised plan

1262
00:35:35,995 --> 00:35:38,172
that we're looking at.

1263
00:35:38,172 --> 00:35:41,930
That's right.

1264
00:35:41,930 --> 00:35:43,350
Uh, in the initial

1265
00:35:43,350 --> 00:35:44,986
plan Uh, I think I

1266
00:35:44,986 --> 00:35:49,595
see it.

1267
00:35:49,595 --> 00:35:50,850
Just show it

1268
00:35:50,850 --> 00:35:53,918
to you, Robbie.

1269
00:35:53,918 --> 00:35:59,254
And then revised?

1270
00:35:59,254 --> 00:36:02,593
Okay, I understand.

1271
00:36:02,593 --> 00:36:04,027
Do you want to be close? Uh

1272
00:36:04,027 --> 00:36:06,959
, no. No, I understand.

1273
00:36:06,959 --> 00:36:07,992
Er, that is, the stairs

1274
00:36:07,992 --> 00:36:09,275
lead, that is, the stairs

1275
00:36:09,275 --> 00:36:10,666
lead down to the deck

1276
00:36:10,666 --> 00:36:11,806
, that's

1277
00:36:11,806 --> 00:36:13,246
right. So, the

1278
00:36:13,246 --> 00:36:14,372
deck extension

1279
00:36:14,372 --> 00:36:15,663
is at a slightly

1280
00:36:15,663 --> 00:36:17,535
lower height. This will be

1281
00:36:17,535 --> 00:36:19,596
at a height of 21.6, which

1282
00:36:19,596 --> 00:36:22,851
gives it 3 1/2 feet above the

1283
00:36:22,905 --> 00:36:25,723
speed zone height. But it's a

1284
00:36:25,723 --> 00:36:31,600
slightly lower height.

1285
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,005
Uh, no more questions from

1286
00:36:33,005 --> 00:36:35,687
me, Michael.

1287
00:36:35,687 --> 00:36:40,362
Good. Uh, Penny?

1288
00:36:40,362 --> 00:36:41,382
Minimal.

1289
00:36:41,382 --> 00:36:44,260
3 feet from

1290
00:36:44,260 --> 00:36:47,484
this seawall.

1291
00:36:47,484 --> 00:36:48,900
That's ridiculous, a foot and a half

1292
00:36:48,900 --> 00:36:53,953
. We need to be,

1293
00:36:53,953 --> 00:36:55,054
um, aware of the

1294
00:36:55,054 --> 00:36:56,339
storm and the work that

1295
00:36:56,339 --> 00:37:02,358
needs to be done.

1296
00:37:02,358 --> 00:37:03,498
Even 3 feet, if you

1297
00:37:03,498 --> 00:37:04,303
stop and

1298
00:37:04,303 --> 00:37:05,476
think about it, that's not a

1299
00:37:05,476 --> 00:37:06,516
lot of room for

1300
00:37:06,516 --> 00:37:07,589
some people to

1301
00:37:07,589 --> 00:37:08,629
get in there and

1302
00:37:08,629 --> 00:37:09,568
work, and you

1303
00:37:09,568 --> 00:37:10,607
can't even

1304
00:37:10,607 --> 00:37:11,949
fit equipment

1305
00:37:11,949 --> 00:37:14,605
on a 3-foot, um. No, it

1306
00:37:14,605 --> 00:37:15,585
can't be that

1307
00:37:15,585 --> 00:37:16,794
close to the

1308
00:37:16,794 --> 00:37:18,523
seawall. That's my only

1309
00:37:18,523 --> 00:37:19,310
comment or

1310
00:37:19,310 --> 00:37:21,188
question, Frank.

1311
00:37:21,188 --> 00:37:23,730
Good. Uh, do we have

1312
00:37:23,730 --> 00:37:25,033
anyone in the room about this

1313
00:37:25,033 --> 00:37:29,992
?

1314
00:37:29,992 --> 00:37:31,356
Uh, at the moment I

1315
00:37:31,356 --> 00:37:33,907
don't see any hands raised.

1316
00:37:33,907 --> 00:37:35,499
Good. Um, let's just

1317
00:37:35,499 --> 00:37:36,751
go back a little bit

1318
00:37:36,751 --> 00:37:38,553
, Greg. I'm

1319
00:37:38,553 --> 00:37:39,293
looking at

1320
00:37:39,293 --> 00:37:40,737
the aerial photo, photo

1321
00:37:40,737 --> 00:37:44,759
two. It was a house.

1322
00:37:44,759 --> 00:37:45,998
This house burned down,

1323
00:37:45,998 --> 00:37:46,433
right?

1324
00:37:46,433 --> 00:37:47,727
That's right. He

1325
00:37:47,727 --> 00:37:49,748
burned down.

1326
00:37:49,748 --> 00:37:50,610
Okay, so this

1327
00:37:50,610 --> 00:37:51,540
house, if I

1328
00:37:51,540 --> 00:37:52,735
remember correctly, did

1329
00:37:52,735 --> 00:37:54,062
we prepare this

1330
00:37:54,062 --> 00:37:58,776
house for lifting?

1331
00:37:58,776 --> 00:38:00,065
And then, and then it

1332
00:38:00,065 --> 00:38:01,499
burned down before, um,

1333
00:38:01,499 --> 00:38:02,932
they got the job done,

1334
00:38:02,932 --> 00:38:05,814
right?

1335
00:38:05,814 --> 00:38:06,974
No, I believe it

1336
00:38:06,974 --> 00:38:08,034
burned down, and then, and

1337
00:38:08,034 --> 00:38:09,294
then they came with a

1338
00:38:09,294 --> 00:38:10,421
notice of

1339
00:38:10,421 --> 00:38:11,788
intent.

1340
00:38:11,788 --> 00:38:13,138
Hmm.

1341
00:38:13,138 --> 00:38:14,083
Yes, it was... You

1342
00:38:14,083 --> 00:38:15,388
can see one in the photo

1343
00:38:15,388 --> 00:38:16,399
, it was already

1344
00:38:16,399 --> 00:38:17,116
raised on a

1345
00:38:17,116 --> 00:38:18,388
concrete foundation

1346
00:38:18,388 --> 00:38:21,371
. It wasn't a pile

1347
00:38:21,371 --> 00:38:22,665
foundation, but, um, it

1348
00:38:22,665 --> 00:38:23,461
was a concrete

1349
00:38:23,461 --> 00:38:24,456
foundation, and this

1350
00:38:24,456 --> 00:38:25,750
house burned to the ground

1351
00:38:25,750 --> 00:38:29,099
completely. Um, that's when

1352
00:38:29,099 --> 00:38:30,462
we were hired to

1353
00:38:30,462 --> 00:38:31,859
allow the remodeling of the

1354
00:38:31,859 --> 00:38:33,607
house.

1355
00:38:33,607 --> 00:38:37,486
Good. Good. Um, and

1356
00:38:37,486 --> 00:38:38,688
then between the house and the

1357
00:38:38,688 --> 00:38:39,952
seawall they

1358
00:38:39,952 --> 00:38:41,122
once had a concrete

1359
00:38:41,122 --> 00:38:44,000
patio?

1360
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,341
Yes, there was. They had a

1361
00:38:45,341 --> 00:38:46,387
concrete

1362
00:38:46,387 --> 00:38:47,268
patio almost

1363
00:38:47,268 --> 00:38:48,231
flush with the top of the

1364
00:38:48,231 --> 00:38:49,102
wall.

1365
00:38:49,102 --> 00:38:50,700
This is what I'm trying to

1366
00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:51,569
imagine.

1367
00:38:51,569 --> 00:38:52,819
broken and demolished

1368
00:38:52,819 --> 00:38:53,992
at the moment.

1369
00:38:53,992 --> 00:38:55,448
Good. So, now it's

1370
00:38:55,448 --> 00:38:56,441
just an open

1371
00:38:56,441 --> 00:38:57,104
pavement.

1372
00:38:57,104 --> 00:39:03,369
Of course. And this

1373
00:39:03,369 --> 00:39:04,459
part of the

1374
00:39:04,459 --> 00:39:05,310
seawall hasn't been

1375
00:39:05,310 --> 00:39:06,570
repaired or,

1376
00:39:06,570 --> 00:39:08,990
um,

1377
00:39:08,990 --> 00:39:10,177
I don't think so.

1378
00:39:10,177 --> 00:39:11,385
They worked on it,

1379
00:39:11,385 --> 00:39:12,725
right? They went in

1380
00:39:12,725 --> 00:39:13,838
several directions,

1381
00:39:13,838 --> 00:39:15,046
but for some reason

1382
00:39:15,046 --> 00:39:15,841
this section was not

1383
00:39:15,841 --> 00:39:18,219
taken into account.

1384
00:39:18,219 --> 00:39:19,555
I don't think she was

1385
00:39:19,555 --> 00:39:20,502
touched, no.

1386
00:39:20,502 --> 00:39:21,792
So, it's still an old

1387
00:39:21,792 --> 00:39:28,445
seawall. And to

1388
00:39:28,445 --> 00:39:29,628
Robbie's question, I

1389
00:39:29,628 --> 00:39:31,020
assume that whoever

1390
00:39:31,020 --> 00:39:32,307
designed the house

1391
00:39:32,307 --> 00:39:33,421
would design and

1392
00:39:33,421 --> 00:39:34,499
certify the

1393
00:39:34,499 --> 00:39:37,100
terrace.

1394
00:39:37,100 --> 00:39:38,646
Yes, they will do it.

1395
00:39:38,646 --> 00:39:39,282
There is a design

1396
00:39:39,282 --> 00:39:40,762
engineer. It is Structures

1397
00:39:40,762 --> 00:39:41,929
Engineering Incorporated that

1398
00:39:41,929 --> 00:39:43,309
certified the terrace

1399
00:39:43,309 --> 00:39:44,689
, and they are certifying the

1400
00:39:44,689 --> 00:39:45,892
terrace extension

1401
00:39:45,892 --> 00:39:47,484
for

1402
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,088
building permit purposes.

1403
00:39:49,088 --> 00:39:52,295
Good. Um, well, I think

1404
00:39:52,295 --> 00:39:53,723
you get the gist of

1405
00:39:53,723 --> 00:39:55,314
the commission regarding the size of the

1406
00:39:55,314 --> 00:39:56,824
terrace. Do you want to

1407
00:39:56,824 --> 00:40:00,963
get some?

1408
00:40:00,963 --> 00:40:01,997
I have, and I...I

1409
00:40:01,997 --> 00:40:03,362
certainly understand

1410
00:40:03,362 --> 00:40:06,180
the concerns here. Um

1411
00:40:06,180 --> 00:40:07,110
, if the terrace

1412
00:40:07,110 --> 00:40:08,467
is reduced to 5 feet

1413
00:40:08,467 --> 00:40:09,862
from the seawall,

1414
00:40:09,862 --> 00:40:14,469
could we

1415
00:40:14,469 --> 00:40:15,379
do that either on the

1416
00:40:15,379 --> 00:40:16,693
revised plans

1417
00:40:16,693 --> 00:40:17,468
or as a condition of

1418
00:40:17,468 --> 00:40:18,648
approval if

1419
00:40:18,648 --> 00:40:19,894
the commission votes "

1420
00:40:19,894 --> 00:40:21,996
yes". And a 5 foot setback, would

1421
00:40:21,996 --> 00:40:22,809
that be

1422
00:40:22,809 --> 00:40:26,121
acceptable?

1423
00:40:26,121 --> 00:40:28,808
For me it would be.

1424
00:40:28,808 --> 00:40:32,950
Okay, Jen, if we

1425
00:40:32,950 --> 00:40:38,330
could close, but I don't

1426
00:40:38,330 --> 00:40:39,250
think this is an

1427
00:40:39,250 --> 00:40:40,477
amendment to the order,

1428
00:40:40,477 --> 00:40:47,307
so it's not...Uh,

1429
00:40:47,307 --> 00:40:48,217
we can...uh

1430
00:40:48,217 --> 00:40:50,248
close it provided a

1431
00:40:50,284 --> 00:40:51,614
revised plan is submitted with,

1432
00:40:51,614 --> 00:40:52,525
uh, you know,

1433
00:40:52,525 --> 00:40:53,506
showing a greater

1434
00:40:53,506 --> 00:40:56,535
distance from the wall.

1435
00:40:56,535 --> 00:41:02,567
5 feet from the wall? Yes.

1436
00:41:02,567 --> 00:41:06,001
Good. Uh-huh. Okay, I'll

1437
00:41:06,001 --> 00:41:09,192
accept the offer.

1438
00:41:09,192 --> 00:41:10,479
I...I'm not...I'm not quite

1439
00:41:10,479 --> 00:41:11,551
sure how you

1440
00:41:11,551 --> 00:41:12,195
want to

1441
00:41:12,195 --> 00:41:15,996
phrase this, Jen.

1442
00:41:15,996 --> 00:41:17,586
Uh, make an amendment,

1443
00:41:17,586 --> 00:41:18,800
uh, and please, uh, a

1444
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,391
revised plan, uh

1445
00:41:20,391 --> 00:41:21,982
, with the terrace further from the

1446
00:41:21,982 --> 00:41:24,557
wall.

1447
00:41:24,557 --> 00:41:28,479
5 feet from the wall. I

1448
00:41:28,479 --> 00:41:29,800
move that the

1449
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,020
amendment be adopted

1450
00:41:31,020 --> 00:41:32,206
provided that the terrace

1451
00:41:32,206 --> 00:41:33,154
is

1452
00:41:33,154 --> 00:41:34,408
5 feet from the

1453
00:41:34,408 --> 00:41:38,740
wall.

1454
00:41:38,740 --> 00:41:40,117
Okay, this is a suggestion

1455
00:41:40,117 --> 00:41:41,469
from Penny. Do I have a

1456
00:41:41,469 --> 00:41:43,267
second?

1457
00:41:43,267 --> 00:41:44,379
I support this,

1458
00:41:44,379 --> 00:41:45,076
Brendan.

1459
00:41:45,076 --> 00:41:47,103
This is Brendan. Uh, everyone is "in

1460
00:41:47,103 --> 00:41:49,307
favor"? Eric?

1461
00:41:49,307 --> 00:41:50,520
Yes.

1462
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:51,948
Robbie?

1463
00:41:51,948 --> 00:41:52,500
Yes.

1464
00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:54,228
And Frank, yes. Perfectly.

1465
00:41:54,228 --> 00:41:55,733
Thank you both. We're

1466
00:41:55,733 --> 00:41:57,212
done with this.

1467
00:41:57,212 --> 00:41:58,351
Good night.

1468
00:41:58,351 --> 00:42:00,209
Thank you.

1469
00:42:00,209 --> 00:42:01,313
Um, now we're at

1470
00:42:01,313 --> 00:42:02,948
208 Stockbridge,

1471
00:42:02,948 --> 00:42:03,971
and they want to

1472
00:42:03,971 --> 00:42:05,842
continue.

1473
00:42:05,842 --> 00:42:06,905
Uh, yeah, they didn't

1474
00:42:06,905 --> 00:42:09,696
give me a date. Um,

1475
00:42:09,696 --> 00:42:12,794
my date is December 7th. I-I

1476
00:42:12,794 --> 00:42:14,142
know it's not that far

1477
00:42:14,142 --> 00:42:15,347
ahead, but we have

1478
00:42:15,347 --> 00:42:16,269
some pretty

1479
00:42:16,269 --> 00:42:17,297
big announcements coming up in

1480
00:42:17,297 --> 00:42:18,716
October and then, um, another

1481
00:42:18,716 --> 00:42:19,744
one in mid-

1482
00:42:19,744 --> 00:42:21,548
November.

1483
00:42:21,548 --> 00:42:22,917
Good. Yes, I think

1484
00:42:22,917 --> 00:42:24,057
their request was for the

1485
00:42:24,057 --> 00:42:26,194
next available

1486
00:42:26,194 --> 00:42:29,818
meeting. Yes. Good.

1487
00:42:29,818 --> 00:42:31,094
So, can I make a

1488
00:42:31,094 --> 00:42:32,470
suggestion, Frank?

1489
00:42:32,470 --> 00:42:34,928
Of course.

1490
00:42:34,928 --> 00:42:36,869
Stockbridge, 208, at

1491
00:42:36,869 --> 00:42:39,167
December 7th.

1492
00:42:39,167 --> 00:42:42,295
Yes. I will support

1493
00:42:42,295 --> 00:42:46,427
Brendan. All in favor? Er

1494
00:42:46,427 --> 00:42:48,047
, Eric?

1495
00:42:48,047 --> 00:42:49,440
Yes.

1496
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:50,928
And Robbie?

1497
00:42:50,928 --> 00:42:51,594
Yes.

1498
00:42:51,594 --> 00:42:54,607
And Frank, yes. Good.

1499
00:42:54,607 --> 00:42:57,016
Rebecca.

1500
00:42:57,016 --> 00:42:58,790
And now we are at

1501
00:42:58,790 --> 00:43:00,337
55 Rebecca Road. This

1502
00:43:00,337 --> 00:43:05,574
has been extended.

1503
00:43:05,574 --> 00:43:17,145
Um, yes, and I think

1504
00:43:17,145 --> 00:43:19,393
my suggestion would be that

1505
00:43:19,427 --> 00:43:20,400
after talking to the

1506
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:21,172
building

1507
00:43:21,172 --> 00:43:22,481
department, um, we

1508
00:43:22,481 --> 00:43:23,756
would require structural

1509
00:43:23,756 --> 00:43:25,065
plans, and we, can

1510
00:43:25,065 --> 00:43:26,340
we add this to the conditions

1511
00:43:26,340 --> 00:43:27,481
that we would like the

1512
00:43:27,481 --> 00:43:28,421
details, as well as the

1513
00:43:28,421 --> 00:43:29,529
structural plans,

1514
00:43:29,529 --> 00:43:30,871
to be provided to the

1515
00:43:30,871 --> 00:43:32,113
conservation commission, um,

1516
00:43:32,113 --> 00:43:34,395
for review before the

1517
00:43:35,033 --> 00:43:44,303
building permit is signed.

1518
00:43:44,303 --> 00:43:45,525
So you say that the

1519
00:43:45,525 --> 00:43:49,324
structural engineer

1520
00:43:49,324 --> 00:43:51,348
will provide you with these plans.

1521
00:43:51,348 --> 00:43:52,288
Yes.

1522
00:43:52,288 --> 00:43:53,353
Okay, just like

1523
00:43:53,353 --> 00:43:54,619
we did at the

1524
00:43:54,619 --> 00:43:55,852
last meeting in

1525
00:43:55,852 --> 00:43:57,128
Hemlock.

1526
00:43:57,128 --> 00:43:59,734
Yes. Um, yeah, and we, we

1527
00:43:59,734 --> 00:44:00,934
want it

1528
00:44:00,934 --> 00:44:02,204
done before I

1529
00:44:02,204 --> 00:44:03,336
sign the

1530
00:44:03,336 --> 00:44:04,349
building permit. I,

1531
00:44:04,349 --> 00:44:05,345
you know, not just

1532
00:44:05,345 --> 00:44:06,186
submit it to the

1533
00:44:06,186 --> 00:44:07,400
building commission,

1534
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,303
but, uh, come to the

1535
00:44:08,303 --> 00:44:09,269
commission for our

1536
00:44:09,269 --> 00:44:12,184
file. Um,

1537
00:44:12,184 --> 00:44:13,319
can I ask

1538
00:44:13,319 --> 00:44:14,362
a question?

1539
00:44:14,362 --> 00:44:16,054
Of course.

1540
00:44:16,054 --> 00:44:17,402
Um, you know.

1541
00:44:17,402 --> 00:44:19,494
Who will tell you "no"?

1542
00:44:19,494 --> 00:44:21,514
Well, you. And then I'll

1543
00:44:21,514 --> 00:44:26,735
punch you in the nose. Um, I would, vote "no."

1544
00:44:26,735 --> 00:44:30,073
Sorry. Stay tuned.

1545
00:44:30,073 --> 00:44:31,501
Um, okay, it's just an

1546
00:44:31,501 --> 00:44:32,652
idea I had

1547
00:44:32,652 --> 00:44:35,619
. Robbie, you are

1548
00:44:35,619 --> 00:44:37,105
very concerned, and I

1549
00:44:37,105 --> 00:44:38,894
understand that. The roof

1550
00:44:38,894 --> 00:44:39,893
is attached to

1551
00:44:39,893 --> 00:44:41,970
the house, right?

1552
00:44:41,970 --> 00:44:44,363
Good. What

1553
00:44:44,363 --> 00:44:47,758
about such areas?

1554
00:44:47,758 --> 00:44:49,100
If they want a roof,

1555
00:44:49,100 --> 00:44:50,201
why can't we

1556
00:44:50,201 --> 00:44:51,027
ask them

1557
00:44:51,027 --> 00:44:52,266
to install, you know,

1558
00:44:52,266 --> 00:44:53,436
those retractable awnings

1559
00:44:53,436 --> 00:44:54,641
that you can buy and

1560
00:44:54,641 --> 00:44:55,880
they extend and

1561
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,222
you take them back

1562
00:44:57,222 --> 00:44:58,461
when a

1563
00:44:58,461 --> 00:45:02,159
storm comes. Why does it have to

1564
00:45:02,159 --> 00:45:03,446
be a structured

1565
00:45:03,446 --> 00:45:08,656
roof, a wooden roof? Wouldn't that make

1566
00:45:08,692 --> 00:45:09,860
more sense, or am I

1567
00:45:09,860 --> 00:45:14,065
just guessing? Do you

1568
00:45:14,065 --> 00:45:15,381
understand what I'm

1569
00:45:15,381 --> 00:45:16,583
talking about, Frank and

1570
00:45:16,583 --> 00:45:17,440
Jen?

1571
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,518
I know I understand. Uh

1572
00:45:19,518 --> 00:45:20,541
, the applicant can't

1573
00:45:20,541 --> 00:45:21,862
join

1574
00:45:21,862 --> 00:45:22,721
tonight due to a

1575
00:45:22,721 --> 00:45:24,009
conflicting meeting,

1576
00:45:24,009 --> 00:45:26,905
but I'm right. Then

1577
00:45:26,905 --> 00:45:28,255
it's much, um, less

1578
00:45:28,255 --> 00:45:29,569
structured work in a

1579
00:45:29,569 --> 00:45:33,049
sensitive area.

1580
00:45:33,049 --> 00:45:34,472
Well, I think it might

1581
00:45:34,472 --> 00:45:35,895
be tricky because,

1582
00:45:35,895 --> 00:45:37,104
you know, even without a

1583
00:45:37,104 --> 00:45:38,456
storm, it's probably

1584
00:45:38,456 --> 00:45:39,630
going to be a very windy

1585
00:45:39,630 --> 00:45:43,723
area, right? And I don't

1586
00:45:43,723 --> 00:45:45,078
know if these retractable

1587
00:45:45,078 --> 00:45:46,588
awnings are, um,

1588
00:45:46,588 --> 00:45:52,352
strong enough for, I don't know. No matter what

1589
00:45:52,388 --> 00:45:54,102
wind speed it experiences.

1590
00:45:54,102 --> 00:45:55,646
Um,

1591
00:45:55,646 --> 00:45:57,323
I don't know either, Robbie,

1592
00:45:57,323 --> 00:45:59,257
but I, I'm with you. I

1593
00:45:59,257 --> 00:46:03,399
don't like the roof

1594
00:46:03,399 --> 00:46:07,984
over the terrace. What

1595
00:46:07,984 --> 00:46:09,177
worries me is that in

1596
00:46:09,177 --> 00:46:10,234
a couple of years someone

1597
00:46:10,234 --> 00:46:11,359
will add walls to

1598
00:46:11,359 --> 00:46:14,828
this roof. And

1599
00:46:14,828 --> 00:46:17,603
I think it's

1600
00:46:17,603 --> 00:46:23,456
just a

1601
00:46:23,456 --> 00:46:24,843
concern because I'm looking for, uh

1602
00:46:24,843 --> 00:46:25,874
, stamped

1603
00:46:25,874 --> 00:46:26,834
drawings to have a

1604
00:46:26,834 --> 00:46:28,186
professional engineer

1605
00:46:28,186 --> 00:46:29,324
design it in a

1606
00:46:29,324 --> 00:46:30,640
way that it does

1607
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,063
n't fly off, essentially, and I do

1608
00:46:32,063 --> 00:46:33,450
n't get hurt, and

1609
00:46:33,450 --> 00:46:34,730
you know, that's what I'm getting at

1610
00:46:34,730 --> 00:46:43,457
. Not so much the

1611
00:46:43,457 --> 00:46:44,591
roof itself, but

1612
00:46:44,591 --> 00:46:46,103
the structure of the terrace, and

1613
00:46:46,103 --> 00:46:51,522
you know, the roof, I don't know.

1614
00:46:51,522 --> 00:46:54,536
The roof on the terrace is like that.

1615
00:46:54,536 --> 00:46:55,544
I know it's

1616
00:46:55,544 --> 00:46:56,408
halfway to

1617
00:46:56,408 --> 00:46:57,973
expansion. Yes.

1618
00:46:57,973 --> 00:47:00,054
I don't know. Like that. Uh-

1619
00:47:00,054 --> 00:47:01,994
huh.

1620
00:47:01,994 --> 00:47:03,525
Well, what I'm concerned about is, you

1621
00:47:03,525 --> 00:47:04,788
know, if they,

1622
00:47:04,788 --> 00:47:06,280
if we let it,

1623
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:07,352
the next thing we

1624
00:47:07,352 --> 00:47:08,615
know is, someone's going

1625
00:47:08,615 --> 00:47:10,108
to say, "Hey, did you see the

1626
00:47:10,108 --> 00:47:11,639
walls, the side walls

1627
00:47:11,639 --> 00:47:12,711
going up on

1628
00:47:12,711 --> 00:47:14,242
each side?" "You know,

1629
00:47:14,242 --> 00:47:16,580
blah blah blah. I

1630
00:47:16,580 --> 00:47:17,173
just don't

1631
00:47:17,173 --> 00:47:18,326
like the roof on the

1632
00:47:18,326 --> 00:47:19,794
terrace. I don't

1633
00:47:19,794 --> 00:47:21,148
see the need

1634
00:47:21,148 --> 00:47:23,296
for that at all. But, you're

1635
00:47:23,296 --> 00:47:24,676
right, engineer, if a

1636
00:47:24,676 --> 00:47:26,093
structural engineer is supposed to

1637
00:47:26,093 --> 00:47:28,711
give us

1638
00:47:28,711 --> 00:47:32,542
guidance.

1639
00:47:32,542 --> 00:47:34,148
I'm wondering, on the

1640
00:47:34,182 --> 00:47:35,320
procedural side of

1641
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:36,625
this, if

1642
00:47:36,625 --> 00:47:37,930
we don't have a certified

1643
00:47:37,930 --> 00:47:42,922
plan, can we

1644
00:47:42,922 --> 00:47:43,974
do anything with this

1645
00:47:43,974 --> 00:47:49,391
project tonight

1646
00:48:01,826 --> 00:48:06,020
? The reason I think I've stalled or caused this issue is that if the plans can't be certified as they are, don't we have to review any changes to those plans after they've been reviewed by the engineer?

1647
00:48:06,020 --> 00:48:09,649
So I think we

1648
00:48:09,649 --> 00:48:10,968
can do something with

1649
00:48:10,968 --> 00:48:11,759
this project

1650
00:48:11,759 --> 00:48:16,702
tonight?

1651
00:48:16,702 --> 00:48:18,097
Um, well, I also have a

1652
00:48:18,097 --> 00:48:18,864
problem with

1653
00:48:18,864 --> 00:48:21,398
Frank's connection. I

1654
00:48:21,398 --> 00:48:23,001
think his shut down

1655
00:48:23,001 --> 00:48:23,509
.

1656
00:48:23,509 --> 00:48:24,216
Okay.

1657
00:48:24,216 --> 00:48:25,381
Um, he shut down, and

1658
00:48:25,381 --> 00:48:26,685
then he said, "Okay,

1659
00:48:26,685 --> 00:48:27,782
can I

1660
00:48:27,782 --> 00:48:29,179
pause for a minute?" "I

1661
00:48:29,179 --> 00:48:31,537
just want to...

1662
00:48:31,537 --> 00:48:32,175
Pause.

1663
00:48:32,175 --> 00:48:37,219
Okay. Okay. Yeah. Um,

1664
00:48:37,219 --> 00:48:38,141
okay. Josh

1665
00:48:38,141 --> 00:48:40,084
will take care of it.

1666
00:48:40,084 --> 00:48:41,930
Um,

1667
00:48:41,930 --> 00:48:43,317
we'll just go ahead,

1668
00:48:43,317 --> 00:48:44,389
Jen.

1669
00:48:44,389 --> 00:48:45,387
Well, I do, but

1670
00:48:45,387 --> 00:48:46,661
can we... So we

1671
00:48:46,661 --> 00:48:48,004
need the information

1672
00:48:48,004 --> 00:48:48,727
before we

1673
00:48:48,727 --> 00:48:52,075
close. We

1674
00:48:52,075 --> 00:48:53,390
need the structural

1675
00:48:53,390 --> 00:48:54,290
information before we

1676
00:48:54,290 --> 00:48:55,190
close, not

1677
00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:56,574
getting it on a conditional basis

1678
00:48:56,574 --> 00:48:57,855
, and then

1679
00:48:57,855 --> 00:48:58,997
it's at their own risk,

1680
00:48:58,997 --> 00:49:00,173
if it's, um, significant

1681
00:49:00,173 --> 00:49:01,073
changes like

1682
00:49:01,073 --> 00:49:02,215
needing more

1683
00:49:02,215 --> 00:49:03,392
support, then they're going to

1684
00:49:03,392 --> 00:49:04,188
need

1685
00:49:04,188 --> 00:49:05,192
modification and

1686
00:49:05,192 --> 00:49:06,334
maybe making

1687
00:49:06,334 --> 00:49:10,920
changes.

1688
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,480
I think you could, I

1689
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:13,963
think, stipulate

1690
00:49:13,963 --> 00:49:15,848
that. And then, let's say the

1691
00:49:15,848 --> 00:49:16,966
plans are structurally sound

1692
00:49:16,966 --> 00:49:17,875
,

1693
00:49:17,875 --> 00:49:19,133
the engineer looks at

1694
00:49:19,133 --> 00:49:20,181
them and says it's

1695
00:49:20,181 --> 00:49:21,171
fine. I

1696
00:49:21,171 --> 00:49:22,235
like it. I'm

1697
00:49:22,235 --> 00:49:22,775
ready

1698
00:49:22,775 --> 00:49:24,737
to stamp it. And

1699
00:49:24,737 --> 00:49:25,268
then it's

1700
00:49:25,268 --> 00:49:26,529
stamped,

1701
00:49:26,529 --> 00:49:29,430
right? And, um, you know,

1702
00:49:29,430 --> 00:49:30,857
if they say,

1703
00:49:30,857 --> 00:49:36,323
the engineer says, 'Uh, no.'

1704
00:49:36,323 --> 00:49:37,199
We need to

1705
00:49:37,199 --> 00:49:38,659
do A, B, and

1706
00:49:38,659 --> 00:49:40,046
C first. And then they, I think,

1707
00:49:40,046 --> 00:49:40,812
will have to

1708
00:49:40,812 --> 00:49:42,053
come back,

1709
00:49:42,053 --> 00:49:46,082
right? And then look for

1710
00:49:46,082 --> 00:49:48,749
a fix? I don't know.

1711
00:49:48,749 --> 00:49:51,124
Right. OK. I

1712
00:49:51,124 --> 00:49:53,010
think that's reasonable.

1713
00:49:53,010 --> 00:49:55,087
Phew. I know. I'm not a

1714
00:49:55,087 --> 00:49:56,381
fan of closing this tonight

1715
00:49:56,381 --> 00:49:59,182
.

1716
00:49:59,182 --> 00:50:00,424
Personally, I would like to

1717
00:50:00,424 --> 00:50:01,598
see

1718
00:50:01,598 --> 00:50:04,027
the plans first. I don't have the

1719
00:50:04,027 --> 00:50:05,292
best feeling

1720
00:50:05,292 --> 00:50:07,231
about this project.

1721
00:50:07,231 --> 00:50:08,801
This is also fair. I

1722
00:50:08,801 --> 00:50:09,959
mean,

1723
00:50:09,959 --> 00:50:10,948
hmm,

1724
00:50:10,948 --> 00:50:19,864
I agree with that too.

1725
00:50:19,864 --> 00:50:21,105
Brendan, where are you?

1726
00:50:21,105 --> 00:50:26,913
Introductions. What do you want?

1727
00:50:26,913 --> 00:50:28,349
Stop laughing,

1728
00:50:28,349 --> 00:50:33,255
Eric. I see you.

1729
00:50:33,255 --> 00:50:39,431
Well, uh, I'm not, uh, I'm

1730
00:50:39,431 --> 00:50:40,594
generally probably not

1731
00:50:40,594 --> 00:50:41,658
too keen on

1732
00:50:41,658 --> 00:50:44,780
closing without a plan.

1733
00:50:44,780 --> 00:50:45,940
Okay, then let's

1734
00:50:45,940 --> 00:50:47,196
just keep it going

1735
00:50:47,196 --> 00:50:48,529
until December. Then they

1736
00:50:48,529 --> 00:50:49,835
will have enough time

1737
00:50:49,835 --> 00:50:53,723
to do it.

1738
00:50:53,723 --> 00:50:55,100
Uh, well, I'd also like to

1739
00:50:55,100 --> 00:50:56,442
hear what, if anything,

1740
00:50:56,442 --> 00:50:57,420
Frank has to

1741
00:50:57,420 --> 00:50:58,617
say about this

1742
00:50:58,617 --> 00:50:59,736
. Uh, I'm not

1743
00:50:59,736 --> 00:51:01,004
sure if

1744
00:51:01,004 --> 00:51:02,240
we can get him back, if

1745
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:03,834
we can. Well, I

1746
00:51:03,834 --> 00:51:05,199
see his face. I

1747
00:51:05,199 --> 00:51:06,680
think I'm inside

1748
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:06,818
.

1749
00:51:06,818 --> 00:51:07,387
Good.

1750
00:51:07,387 --> 00:51:09,049
I don't know. Josh miraculously

1751
00:51:09,049 --> 00:51:11,647
managed it. So where are

1752
00:51:11,647 --> 00:51:17,547
we? 55 uh, Rebecca, and

1753
00:51:17,547 --> 00:51:18,685
uh...Some want

1754
00:51:18,685 --> 00:51:20,253
to close, and some of us

1755
00:51:20,253 --> 00:51:24,426
want to close. Okay

1756
00:51:24,426 --> 00:51:27,735
. I don't want to close

1757
00:51:27,735 --> 00:51:29,915
and then I don't know.

1758
00:51:29,915 --> 00:51:30,579
Uh, and I...And

1759
00:51:30,579 --> 00:51:32,055
the discussion was that there

1760
00:51:32,055 --> 00:51:33,309
should be

1761
00:51:33,309 --> 00:51:34,884
more information. And

1762
00:51:34,884 --> 00:51:36,145
I apologize.

1763
00:51:36,145 --> 00:51:38,542
Certified plan. The

1764
00:51:38,542 --> 00:51:40,546
real plan.

1765
00:51:40,546 --> 00:51:42,056
Before we close.

1766
00:51:42,056 --> 00:51:43,046
Yes, that's as

1767
00:51:43,046 --> 00:51:44,212
opposed to

1768
00:51:44,212 --> 00:51:45,318
making it a condition for

1769
00:51:45,318 --> 00:51:46,346
them to have it.

1770
00:51:46,346 --> 00:51:47,934
Right.

1771
00:51:47,934 --> 00:51:49,320
You're the one who makes

1772
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,250
the decision, uh, excuse me?

1773
00:51:52,250 --> 00:51:53,417
I mean, I

1774
00:51:53,417 --> 00:51:54,452
had a lot of

1775
00:51:54,452 --> 00:51:55,653
arguments with Jen in the

1776
00:51:55,653 --> 00:52:00,154
background. Um,

1777
00:52:00,154 --> 00:52:01,361
if Jen is okay with

1778
00:52:01,361 --> 00:52:02,098
closing and

1779
00:52:02,098 --> 00:52:03,339
getting this...I've

1780
00:52:03,339 --> 00:52:04,647
heard a lot of arguments

1781
00:52:04,647 --> 00:52:05,854
about this, and I'm

1782
00:52:05,854 --> 00:52:06,592
glad we're

1783
00:52:06,592 --> 00:52:07,866
getting a certified

1784
00:52:07,866 --> 00:52:14,760
plan. Um, I think

1785
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,228
the applicant probably should have

1786
00:52:16,228 --> 00:52:17,776
gotten it earlier

1787
00:52:17,776 --> 00:52:23,020
, so, um, if we

1788
00:52:23,020 --> 00:52:24,300
get it, then I guess

1789
00:52:24,300 --> 00:52:25,310
if we don't

1790
00:52:25,310 --> 00:52:26,623
do it, the project won't go

1791
00:52:26,623 --> 00:52:30,348
ahead.

1792
00:52:30,348 --> 00:52:33,141
Right. I

1793
00:52:33,141 --> 00:52:34,308
mean, I think it would be

1794
00:52:34,308 --> 00:52:35,402
good for

1795
00:52:35,402 --> 00:52:36,787
projects, especially in the

1796
00:52:36,787 --> 00:52:38,173
speed zone, to have

1797
00:52:38,173 --> 00:52:42,954
that information

1798
00:52:42,954 --> 00:52:44,725
up front. Yes, this

1799
00:52:44,725 --> 00:52:45,937
should all be part of the

1800
00:52:45,937 --> 00:52:49,182
submission. Um, so I

1801
00:52:49,182 --> 00:52:50,286
think at this

1802
00:52:50,286 --> 00:52:51,190
point it would be something like

1803
00:52:51,190 --> 00:52:52,260
, it

1804
00:52:52,260 --> 00:52:53,599
could be like, if we

1805
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:54,536
want to close an

1806
00:52:54,536 --> 00:52:55,808
issue that requires

1807
00:52:55,808 --> 00:52:56,912
certified plans,

1808
00:52:56,912 --> 00:52:58,016
then, you know, if the

1809
00:52:58,016 --> 00:52:59,288
plan changes, then

1810
00:52:59,288 --> 00:53:00,325
they would need to

1811
00:53:00,325 --> 00:53:01,664
make changes to their

1812
00:53:01,664 --> 00:53:04,850
orders. Or we'll

1813
00:53:04,850 --> 00:53:05,857
continue and we'll

1814
00:53:05,857 --> 00:53:07,067
get the

1815
00:53:07,067 --> 00:53:08,008
plans first before we

1816
00:53:08,008 --> 00:53:11,837
close.

1817
00:53:11,837 --> 00:53:13,362
Okay, and do we have movement

1818
00:53:13,362 --> 00:53:15,741
now?

1819
00:53:15,741 --> 00:53:16,384
I suggest

1820
00:53:16,384 --> 00:53:17,672
continuing until we

1821
00:53:17,672 --> 00:53:18,444
get an

1822
00:53:18,444 --> 00:53:20,499
approved plan.

1823
00:53:20,499 --> 00:53:22,019
Okay, this is

1824
00:53:22,019 --> 00:53:24,022
Penny's suggestion. And do we have a

1825
00:53:24,022 --> 00:53:25,053
second on this

1826
00:53:25,053 --> 00:53:30,906
?

1827
00:53:30,906 --> 00:53:32,363
Oh, well.

1828
00:53:32,363 --> 00:53:33,432
What ca

1829
00:53:33,432 --> 00:53:34,403
n't I do,

1830
00:53:34,403 --> 00:53:35,894
Jen, Jen, what are you

1831
00:53:35,894 --> 00:53:38,058
leaning towards? I think it

1832
00:53:38,058 --> 00:53:39,309
was, it could go

1833
00:53:39,309 --> 00:53:40,692
either way. Well, I'm

1834
00:53:40,692 --> 00:53:42,213
not leaning towards it, because Jen,

1835
00:53:42,213 --> 00:53:44,076
you can.

1836
00:53:44,076 --> 00:53:45,124
Yes, no, it would be

1837
00:53:45,124 --> 00:53:46,436
if, if it were two

1838
00:53:46,436 --> 00:53:47,648
ways, the condition would be that

1839
00:53:47,648 --> 00:53:48,173
we

1840
00:53:48,173 --> 00:53:49,484
would require the submission of

1841
00:53:49,484 --> 00:53:50,074
plans with

1842
00:53:50,074 --> 00:53:50,959
approved

1843
00:53:50,959 --> 00:53:51,614
plans to be

1844
00:53:51,614 --> 00:53:53,614
retained before the

1845
00:53:53,647 --> 00:53:56,798
building permit is signed. And

1846
00:53:56,798 --> 00:53:57,543
if it's

1847
00:53:57,543 --> 00:53:58,710
dramatic, if it

1848
00:53:58,710 --> 00:53:59,650
changes, if

1849
00:53:59,650 --> 00:54:00,816
additional

1850
00:54:00,816 --> 00:54:02,048
support is needed, if something

1851
00:54:02,048 --> 00:54:03,279
changes, then the plan will

1852
00:54:03,279 --> 00:54:04,122
need to be

1853
00:54:04,122 --> 00:54:04,899
changed, and we'll

1854
00:54:04,899 --> 00:54:07,821
go down that path.

1855
00:54:07,821 --> 00:54:09,187
Um, or we need

1856
00:54:09,187 --> 00:54:10,443
all of this before we

1857
00:54:10,443 --> 00:54:15,358
close.

1858
00:54:15,358 --> 00:54:16,809
Wait, aren't those

1859
00:54:16,809 --> 00:54:19,497
three ways?

1860
00:54:19,497 --> 00:54:20,985
Well, it's possible. Maybe a

1861
00:54:20,985 --> 00:54:22,302
third one, right

1862
00:54:22,302 --> 00:54:23,918
? He is correct.

1863
00:54:23,918 --> 00:54:25,741
One of these paths has

1864
00:54:25,741 --> 00:54:28,848
A and B.

1865
00:54:28,848 --> 00:54:32,378
Okay. Um, so now

1866
00:54:32,378 --> 00:54:33,455
Penny has made

1867
00:54:33,455 --> 00:54:39,189
a suggestion, um, not to

1868
00:54:39,189 --> 00:54:40,717
continue. Yes, don't

1869
00:54:40,717 --> 00:54:43,682
close it.

1870
00:54:43,682 --> 00:54:45,198
We have and, uh, so there

1871
00:54:45,198 --> 00:54:48,675
was no second question,

1872
00:54:48,675 --> 00:54:50,497
Eric will support that.

1873
00:54:50,497 --> 00:54:51,567
Okay, that's the second

1874
00:54:51,567 --> 00:54:53,865
question. So, all "for

1875
00:54:53,865 --> 00:54:55,110
" the continuation until

1876
00:54:55,110 --> 00:54:56,459
we get the plans

1877
00:54:56,459 --> 00:54:57,600
, Penny said,

1878
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,202
Eric supported. All in

1879
00:55:00,202 --> 00:55:04,950
, Brendan.

1880
00:55:04,950 --> 00:55:05,651
Can we

1881
00:55:05,651 --> 00:55:06,443
continue the

1882
00:55:06,443 --> 00:55:07,480
goodbye if we

1883
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:08,556
continue it?

1884
00:55:08,556 --> 00:55:17,661
Yes, December 7th. Brendan,

1885
00:55:17,661 --> 00:55:20,274
speak up.

1886
00:55:20,274 --> 00:55:23,608
I...Yes.

1887
00:55:23,608 --> 00:55:26,507
Good. And Robbie?

1888
00:55:26,507 --> 00:55:27,528
Yes.

1889
00:55:27,528 --> 00:55:30,257
Good. So, I think

1890
00:55:30,257 --> 00:55:31,375
we have the quorum for

1891
00:55:31,375 --> 00:55:38,072
this. Good. Good. Uh

1892
00:55:38,072 --> 00:55:38,675
,

1893
00:55:38,675 --> 00:55:39,435
no.

1894
00:55:39,435 --> 00:55:41,129
I think on this one

1895
00:55:41,129 --> 00:55:44,455
, precisely because it's about

1896
00:55:44,455 --> 00:55:45,984
speed, I think

1897
00:55:45,984 --> 00:55:49,446
that was what changed

1898
00:55:49,446 --> 00:55:50,512
my mind, because I was

1899
00:55:50,512 --> 00:55:53,102
hesitant. I could go

1900
00:55:53,102 --> 00:55:54,575
either way, but

1901
00:55:54,575 --> 00:55:55,783
given that this is

1902
00:55:55,783 --> 00:55:57,292
speed, I think

1903
00:55:57,292 --> 00:55:58,198
we need to

1904
00:55:58,198 --> 00:55:59,520
hold this zone

1905
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:00,728
specifically to, uh,

1906
00:56:00,728 --> 00:56:02,200
maybe a little higher,

1907
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:02,992
uh, bar,

1908
00:56:02,992 --> 00:56:04,465
given the implications

1909
00:56:04,465 --> 00:56:11,090
that this zone has. And

1910
00:56:11,090 --> 00:56:12,154
it also allows you to

1911
00:56:12,154 --> 00:56:13,251
ask questions

1912
00:56:13,251 --> 00:56:14,121
about any

1913
00:56:14,121 --> 00:56:14,959
comments or

1914
00:56:14,959 --> 00:56:16,185
corrections that may

1915
00:56:16,185 --> 00:56:16,894
not require a

1916
00:56:16,894 --> 00:56:18,119
return of the application, uh

1917
00:56:18,119 --> 00:56:18,893
, just for

1918
00:56:18,893 --> 00:56:20,183
clarification on the

1919
00:56:20,183 --> 00:56:26,397
design itself. So, it's

1920
00:56:26,397 --> 00:56:30,930
just...

1921
00:56:30,930 --> 00:56:32,140
but it would be nice... I

1922
00:56:32,140 --> 00:56:34,456
was glad we had the

1923
00:56:34,491 --> 00:56:35,217
opportunity last night

1924
00:56:35,217 --> 00:56:36,600
to talk about different,

1925
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:37,811
um, types of hearings and

1926
00:56:37,811 --> 00:56:39,159
different clarifications... and,

1927
00:56:39,159 --> 00:56:40,231
uh, you know, as you

1928
00:56:40,231 --> 00:56:41,268
said, Derek,

1929
00:56:41,268 --> 00:56:42,064
discussing

1930
00:56:42,064 --> 00:56:50,204
being in the V-zone

1931
00:56:50,204 --> 00:56:51,618
adds a certain level of...

1932
00:56:51,618 --> 00:56:52,924
uh, anxiety to

1933
00:56:52,924 --> 00:56:57,292
these projects. So, I

1934
00:56:57,292 --> 00:56:58,472
think that's something we

1935
00:56:58,472 --> 00:56:59,402
should

1936
00:56:59,402 --> 00:57:00,653
make clear to the applicant

1937
00:57:00,653 --> 00:57:02,048
when they submit their application

1938
00:57:02,048 --> 00:57:03,478
, that this package should

1939
00:57:03,478 --> 00:57:07,251
include a certified

1940
00:57:07,251 --> 00:57:08,648
plan. I mean, there

1941
00:57:08,648 --> 00:57:10,502
might be some

1942
00:57:10,502 --> 00:57:11,995
minor...I...I don't

1943
00:57:11,995 --> 00:57:13,975
know. Let's say someone

1944
00:57:13,975 --> 00:57:15,330
came in with a renovation or

1945
00:57:15,330 --> 00:57:16,550
something like that, that

1946
00:57:16,550 --> 00:57:17,092
something is already

1947
00:57:17,092 --> 00:57:18,210
designed, but

1948
00:57:18,210 --> 00:57:21,459
if that's the policy that

1949
00:57:21,459 --> 00:57:22,603
the commission is going to

1950
00:57:22,603 --> 00:57:23,589
follow, I

1951
00:57:23,589 --> 00:57:24,765
think we should

1952
00:57:24,765 --> 00:57:25,814
make that clear to the

1953
00:57:25,814 --> 00:57:29,190
applicants.

1954
00:57:29,190 --> 00:57:30,703
Yes.

1955
00:57:30,703 --> 00:57:32,662
That's smart, I think.

1956
00:57:32,662 --> 00:57:33,896
And scale

1957
00:57:33,896 --> 00:57:36,319
matters too, right? I

1958
00:57:36,319 --> 00:57:37,666
mean, someone

1959
00:57:37,666 --> 00:57:39,167
puts 5 on 5, you know, a

1960
00:57:39,167 --> 00:57:40,552
landing

1961
00:57:40,552 --> 00:57:42,014
or something, that's a different

1962
00:57:42,014 --> 00:57:45,475
matter. It seems to be

1963
00:57:45,475 --> 00:57:47,456
30 by 14 with a roof, you know,

1964
00:57:47,456 --> 00:57:49,458
so...Yeah.

1965
00:57:49,458 --> 00:57:51,723
OK. I think this would be

1966
00:57:51,723 --> 00:57:52,955
helpful for

1967
00:57:52,955 --> 00:57:54,749
Jen and Josh. So

1968
00:57:54,749 --> 00:57:55,834
when we receive

1969
00:57:55,834 --> 00:57:56,887
packages, we can

1970
00:57:56,887 --> 00:57:58,136
let people know that

1971
00:57:58,136 --> 00:57:59,288
they need to give

1972
00:57:59,288 --> 00:58:00,143
us additional

1973
00:58:00,143 --> 00:58:03,549
information. Hmm,

1974
00:58:03,549 --> 00:58:08,676
especially in zone V.

1975
00:58:08,676 --> 00:58:10,574
Okay. So, Jen, will you

1976
00:58:10,574 --> 00:58:12,313
report the applicant?

1977
00:58:12,313 --> 00:58:13,495
Yes, I will notify

1978
00:58:13,495 --> 00:58:14,363
the applicant.

1979
00:58:14,363 --> 00:58:18,331
OK. Thank you. Hmm, we

1980
00:58:18,331 --> 00:58:20,922
are at

1981
00:58:20,965 --> 00:58:23,921
49 Mordecai Lincoln Road. On

1982
00:58:23,921 --> 00:58:26,600
September 21, 2026 at 6:00 p.m., the

1983
00:58:27,633 --> 00:58:28,857
Scituate Conservation Commission will hold a

1984
00:58:28,857 --> 00:58:29,929
public meeting

1985
00:58:29,929 --> 00:58:30,924
pursuant to

1986
00:58:30,924 --> 00:58:33,640
Chapter 131, Chapter 40,

1987
00:58:33,679 --> 00:58:35,171
Massachusetts General Laws, and

1988
00:58:35,171 --> 00:58:36,472
Chapter 30,700, Scituate Code of

1989
00:58:36,472 --> 00:58:38,462
Statutes, to

1990
00:58:38,500 --> 00:58:39,916
discuss a request for a

1991
00:58:39,916 --> 00:58:40,719
determination of

1992
00:58:40,719 --> 00:58:41,791
applicability

1993
00:58:41,791 --> 00:58:43,206
filed by William and

1994
00:58:43,206 --> 00:58:44,661
Janet Provost regarding the

1995
00:58:44,661 --> 00:58:45,962
removal of several

1996
00:58:45,962 --> 00:58:47,454
ash trees located

1997
00:58:47,454 --> 00:58:48,908
at 49 Monakai

1998
00:58:48,908 --> 00:58:49,941
Lincoln Road,

1999
00:58:49,941 --> 00:58:50,940
Scituate. But,

2000
00:58:50,940 --> 00:58:51,747
since other

2001
00:58:51,747 --> 00:58:52,927
interested parties

2002
00:58:52,927 --> 00:58:53,858
are invited to

2003
00:58:53,858 --> 00:58:58,217
participate...The information is

2004
00:58:58,217 --> 00:58:58,955
available and

2005
00:58:58,955 --> 00:58:59,995
posted on the

2006
00:58:59,995 --> 00:59:04,293
website.

2007
00:59:04,293 --> 00:59:05,751
And I believe that the applicant

2008
00:59:05,751 --> 00:59:06,955
and the homeowner are in

2009
00:59:06,955 --> 00:59:08,574
contact.

2010
00:59:08,574 --> 00:59:09,837
Yes. Yes.

2011
00:59:09,837 --> 00:59:12,425
Good evening.

2012
00:59:12,425 --> 00:59:13,649
If you just want

2013
00:59:13,649 --> 00:59:14,843
to tell us a little bit

2014
00:59:14,843 --> 00:59:17,177
about your...

2015
00:59:17,177 --> 00:59:20,483
Okay. Um, here's the description,

2016
00:59:20,483 --> 00:59:25,561
it's very simple. Um,

2017
00:59:25,561 --> 00:59:26,831
we have a dozen, we

2018
00:59:26,831 --> 00:59:28,250
counted the

2019
00:59:28,250 --> 00:59:29,707
tree care companies

2020
00:59:29,707 --> 00:59:30,865
, we got two

2021
00:59:30,865 --> 00:59:32,322
estimates, and they both

2022
00:59:32,322 --> 00:59:33,778
said there are 12 trees

2023
00:59:33,778 --> 00:59:40,172
that are... that are dead. Um, 11

2024
00:59:40,172 --> 00:59:41,509
of them are ash trees that,

2025
00:59:41,509 --> 00:59:42,929
you know, have been

2026
00:59:42,929 --> 00:59:44,392
rotting for several years now because of the

2027
00:59:44,392 --> 00:59:49,628
ash borer. And, um,

2028
00:59:49,628 --> 00:59:50,753
they're very dry, and

2029
00:59:50,753 --> 00:59:51,878
most of them are

2030
00:59:51,878 --> 00:59:53,149
leaning toward our

2031
00:59:53,149 --> 00:59:57,685
house. Um, one of

2032
00:59:57,685 --> 00:59:59,221
them, the one I know, well,

2033
00:59:59,221 --> 01:00:00,449
actually the one on

2034
01:00:00,449 --> 01:00:01,639
the far left if

2035
01:00:01,639 --> 01:00:02,829
you look at the

2036
01:00:02,829 --> 01:00:07,457
plot plan. Um, this one fell through

2037
01:00:07,457 --> 01:00:08,381
and I recently

2038
01:00:08,381 --> 01:00:09,712
sent an additional

2039
01:00:09,712 --> 01:00:11,191
photo to Jen and copied

2040
01:00:11,191 --> 01:00:15,275
Joshua. Um, it fell

2041
01:00:15,275 --> 01:00:16,659
right after there

2042
01:00:16,659 --> 01:00:17,972
was a

2043
01:00:17,972 --> 01:00:20,523
heavy downpour last week. Or the

2044
01:00:20,523 --> 01:00:24,911
week before that. Um,

2045
01:00:24,911 --> 01:00:25,926
so others are just

2046
01:00:25,926 --> 01:00:27,151
waiting for

2047
01:00:27,151 --> 01:00:28,551
the wind or heavy

2048
01:00:28,551 --> 01:00:34,114
rain to fall on them. I know we're going to have a

2049
01:00:34,150 --> 01:00:36,087
storm this weekend, so,

2050
01:00:36,087 --> 01:00:37,105
yes, one tree

2051
01:00:37,105 --> 01:00:38,362
is headed straight for

2052
01:00:38,362 --> 01:00:40,706
our house. It is

2053
01:00:40,706 --> 01:00:41,923
leaning towards our

2054
01:00:41,923 --> 01:00:44,239
house. Um,

2055
01:00:44,239 --> 01:00:45,544
the ones near the

2056
01:00:45,544 --> 01:00:46,850
driveway are also quite

2057
01:00:46,850 --> 01:00:50,080
steep. Um,

2058
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:51,489
some to the mill,

2059
01:00:51,489 --> 01:00:52,969
Lincoln mill, which is a

2060
01:00:53,005 --> 01:00:54,305
concern, and there

2061
01:00:54,305 --> 01:00:55,208
are power lines there too

2062
01:00:55,208 --> 01:00:57,767
. Um,

2063
01:00:57,767 --> 01:00:58,410
I'm just

2064
01:00:58,410 --> 01:00:59,502
saving you some

2065
01:00:59,502 --> 01:01:00,482
time, I don't think

2066
01:01:00,482 --> 01:01:01,266
you need to

2067
01:01:01,266 --> 01:01:02,106
make any more

2068
01:01:02,106 --> 01:01:02,946
arguments about

2069
01:01:02,946 --> 01:01:03,830
your situation.

2070
01:01:03,830 --> 01:01:04,410
Good.

2071
01:01:04,410 --> 01:01:05,524
Good.

2072
01:01:05,524 --> 01:01:07,124
Uh, it goes

2073
01:01:07,124 --> 01:01:07,304
into

2074
01:01:07,304 --> 01:01:08,537
wetlands a little bit,

2075
01:01:08,537 --> 01:01:08,936
so

2076
01:01:08,936 --> 01:01:09,428
it's a little

2077
01:01:09,428 --> 01:01:10,567
overwhelming when

2078
01:01:10,567 --> 01:01:11,522
we looked at the

2079
01:01:11,522 --> 01:01:13,726
cost of

2080
01:01:13,726 --> 01:01:15,758
removing them. Um, that's

2081
01:01:15,758 --> 01:01:17,028
about a little

2082
01:01:17,028 --> 01:01:19,019
under $10,000.

2083
01:01:19,019 --> 01:01:21,501
This was a lower estimate.

2084
01:01:21,501 --> 01:01:23,171
The lowest score

2085
01:01:23,171 --> 01:01:24,534
we had was, um,

2086
01:01:24,534 --> 01:01:25,589
about 16. That

2087
01:01:25,589 --> 01:01:27,172
would include the police

2088
01:01:27,172 --> 01:01:28,710
because the crane would have to

2089
01:01:28,710 --> 01:01:30,726
be outside.

2090
01:01:30,726 --> 01:01:31,437
They might

2091
01:01:31,437 --> 01:01:32,792
have to block

2092
01:01:32,792 --> 01:01:36,152
the street. Em. So, that's

2093
01:01:36,152 --> 01:01:37,596
basically the description we have

2094
01:01:37,596 --> 01:01:40,247
. Em.

2095
01:01:40,247 --> 01:01:41,846
Good. I think we...

2096
01:01:41,846 --> 01:01:42,827
So, you know, we'll

2097
01:01:42,827 --> 01:01:43,989
go through the

2098
01:01:43,989 --> 01:01:45,369
commission members, but...

2099
01:01:45,369 --> 01:01:46,786
you know, we understand

2100
01:01:46,786 --> 01:01:48,094
that ash trees are a real

2101
01:01:48,094 --> 01:01:49,975
problem. And, um, I

2102
01:01:49,975 --> 01:01:51,199
think the only thing that

2103
01:01:51,199 --> 01:01:52,831
maybe Jen told

2104
01:01:52,831 --> 01:01:54,178
you was your plans

2105
01:01:54,178 --> 01:01:56,237
for the stumps. So,

2106
01:01:56,237 --> 01:01:57,020
the cutting and

2107
01:01:57,020 --> 01:01:58,123
removal of trees,

2108
01:01:58,123 --> 01:01:59,296
you know, we...we...we'll

2109
01:01:59,296 --> 01:02:00,328
discuss it with the

2110
01:02:00,328 --> 01:02:01,715
commissioners, but,

2111
01:02:01,715 --> 01:02:03,138
um, just so there's no

2112
01:02:03,138 --> 01:02:05,082
disturbance of the soil. Um,

2113
01:02:05,082 --> 01:02:05,767
of course.

2114
01:02:05,767 --> 01:02:07,723
So, that's true. I

2115
01:02:07,723 --> 01:02:09,010
mean, eventually we would

2116
01:02:09,010 --> 01:02:10,158
like to plant

2117
01:02:10,158 --> 01:02:11,375
more trees, because these

2118
01:02:11,375 --> 01:02:12,731
trees were great

2119
01:02:12,731 --> 01:02:13,949
for shade and, you know, with

2120
01:02:13,949 --> 01:02:16,199
wildlife and so on.

2121
01:02:16,199 --> 01:02:17,504
Um, but we don't plan on

2122
01:02:17,504 --> 01:02:18,727
chopping up stumps.

2123
01:02:18,727 --> 01:02:19,384
We never had

2124
01:02:19,384 --> 01:02:20,303
stumps chopped with

2125
01:02:20,303 --> 01:02:21,328
all the trees we

2126
01:02:21,328 --> 01:02:22,352
had felled...Well

2127
01:02:22,352 --> 01:02:23,245
, we had a few

2128
01:02:23,245 --> 01:02:24,243
felled, and, you know,

2129
01:02:24,243 --> 01:02:25,137
over the

2130
01:02:25,137 --> 01:02:26,461
years. We have been here for 40

2131
01:02:26,461 --> 01:02:29,349
years. Um, so we don't

2132
01:02:29,349 --> 01:02:29,903
plan on

2133
01:02:29,903 --> 01:02:31,076
chopping any

2134
01:02:31,076 --> 01:02:32,538
stumps.

2135
01:02:32,538 --> 01:02:35,469
No. There's also, um, there's

2136
01:02:35,469 --> 01:02:36,550
also, um, a

2137
01:02:36,550 --> 01:02:37,818
tree branch overhanging

2138
01:02:37,818 --> 01:02:38,713
Mordecai

2139
01:02:38,713 --> 01:02:39,683
Lincoln Road

2140
01:02:39,683 --> 01:02:41,100
in front, almost in front of

2141
01:02:41,100 --> 01:02:46,479
our house. It's on the

2142
01:02:46,479 --> 01:02:48,868
grounds of, um,

2143
01:02:48,909 --> 01:02:50,529
52 Mordecai Lincoln Road. But there's something

2144
01:02:50,529 --> 01:02:51,906
like a cherry tree there

2145
01:02:51,906 --> 01:02:53,445
that's growing a little wild

2146
01:02:53,445 --> 01:02:55,065
and overhanging the

2147
01:02:55,065 --> 01:02:59,514
power lines. Hmm,

2148
01:02:59,514 --> 01:03:00,402
it's not on our

2149
01:03:00,402 --> 01:03:02,691
property, but, uh, the

2150
01:03:02,725 --> 01:03:04,092
nut service asked if

2151
01:03:04,092 --> 01:03:05,288
we could get

2152
01:03:05,288 --> 01:03:06,552
permission to remove a

2153
01:03:06,552 --> 01:03:07,714
branch that's overhanging

2154
01:03:07,714 --> 01:03:08,978
the street because it looks

2155
01:03:08,978 --> 01:03:10,344
like it's wrapped around

2156
01:03:10,379 --> 01:03:14,811
power lines.

2157
01:03:14,811 --> 01:03:16,341
Yes, I should mention that

2158
01:03:16,341 --> 01:03:19,399
in the description. Sorry.

2159
01:03:19,399 --> 01:03:20,216
Hmm, when Jen

2160
01:03:20,216 --> 01:03:21,409
sent me that

2161
01:03:21,409 --> 01:03:22,703
letter last week,

2162
01:03:22,703 --> 01:03:23,896
I didn't think to

2163
01:03:23,896 --> 01:03:24,850
mention it, but it's

2164
01:03:24,850 --> 01:03:25,838
just a scrap,

2165
01:03:25,838 --> 01:03:26,700
you know.

2166
01:03:26,700 --> 01:03:27,845
Well, it's not on our

2167
01:03:27,845 --> 01:03:28,626
property.

2168
01:03:28,626 --> 01:03:29,764
No, it's not on our

2169
01:03:29,764 --> 01:03:33,992
property, but it

2170
01:03:33,992 --> 01:03:35,121
makes it necessary

2171
01:03:35,121 --> 01:03:36,017
for the

2172
01:03:36,017 --> 01:03:37,246
tree care company

2173
01:03:37,246 --> 01:03:38,574
to use a crane

2174
01:03:38,574 --> 01:03:39,737
and, uh, to get the

2175
01:03:39,737 --> 01:03:43,405
job done.

2176
01:03:43,405 --> 01:03:46,332
Hmm, so whose

2177
01:03:46,332 --> 01:03:47,080
property is this on

2178
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:47,898
?

2179
01:03:47,898 --> 01:03:49,122
Hmm, this is Mordecai

2180
01:03:49,122 --> 01:03:50,870
Lincoln Road, 52. It was

2181
01:03:50,870 --> 01:03:52,669
recently sold. It

2182
01:03:52,669 --> 01:03:53,579
was an old

2183
01:03:53,579 --> 01:03:58,291
house, uh, Gong. Hmm,

2184
01:03:58,291 --> 01:03:59,339
then I would say that

2185
01:03:59,339 --> 01:04:00,489
maybe you can

2186
01:04:00,489 --> 01:04:01,605
work something out with

2187
01:04:01,605 --> 01:04:02,788
the person it's on

2188
01:04:02,788 --> 01:04:03,937
or the

2189
01:04:03,937 --> 01:04:05,723
city, but

2190
01:04:05,723 --> 01:04:06,981
of course

2191
01:04:06,981 --> 01:04:08,487
it's none of our business...

2192
01:04:08,487 --> 01:04:09,429
Okay.

2193
01:04:09,429 --> 01:04:10,880
It can be done, but it is a

2194
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:11,957
matter of

2195
01:04:11,957 --> 01:04:15,017
nature conservation.

2196
01:04:15,017 --> 01:04:16,238
As we were considering the

2197
01:04:16,238 --> 01:04:17,355
committee members,

2198
01:04:17,355 --> 01:04:18,507
I had another

2199
01:04:18,507 --> 01:04:19,659
thought: If you've already

2200
01:04:19,659 --> 01:04:20,916
reviewed the costs

2201
01:04:20,916 --> 01:04:21,789
and submitted them to us

2202
01:04:21,789 --> 01:04:23,185
, Jen, is there

2203
01:04:23,185 --> 01:04:24,546
any way we

2204
01:04:24,546 --> 01:04:25,873
could include,

2205
01:04:25,873 --> 01:04:27,164
um, tree transplanting,

2206
01:04:27,164 --> 01:04:28,456
um, as long as they're

2207
01:04:28,456 --> 01:04:29,713
not closer to the

2208
01:04:29,713 --> 01:04:30,934
pond than the trees being

2209
01:04:30,934 --> 01:04:35,941
removed?

2210
01:04:35,941 --> 01:04:37,636
This way, you won't have to

2211
01:04:37,667 --> 01:04:38,777
come back to us to

2212
01:04:38,777 --> 01:04:39,895
plant trees.

2213
01:04:39,895 --> 01:04:40,949
Maybe you just

2214
01:04:40,949 --> 01:04:42,065
want to get back

2215
01:04:42,065 --> 01:04:43,058
to Jen with a sketch

2216
01:04:43,058 --> 01:04:44,112
of what you're planting,

2217
01:04:44,112 --> 01:04:44,919
but we could

2218
01:04:44,919 --> 01:04:46,066
include it, um, on this

2219
01:04:46,066 --> 01:04:47,183
return so you

2220
01:04:47,183 --> 01:04:48,392
don't have to

2221
01:04:48,392 --> 01:04:50,911
re-file the return.

2222
01:04:50,911 --> 01:04:51,537
But just

2223
01:04:51,537 --> 01:04:52,789
get back to Jen with what

2224
01:04:52,789 --> 01:04:53,885
you plan to

2225
01:04:53,885 --> 01:04:54,574
do for the

2226
01:04:54,574 --> 01:04:55,375
transplant.

2227
01:04:55,375 --> 01:04:57,005
Of course. Of course.

2228
01:04:57,005 --> 01:04:58,095
Okay, that's a valid

2229
01:04:58,095 --> 01:04:59,294
point, and I don't

2230
01:04:59,294 --> 01:05:00,093
think we're

2231
01:05:00,093 --> 01:05:01,329
going to plant a

2232
01:05:01,329 --> 01:05:02,543
dozen trees.

2233
01:05:02,543 --> 01:05:04,899
Of course. No, I

2234
01:05:04,899 --> 01:05:06,397
mean, fortunately, there are

2235
01:05:06,397 --> 01:05:08,893
a few, you know,

2236
01:05:08,893 --> 01:05:09,748
saplings,

2237
01:05:09,748 --> 01:05:10,898
wild maples

2238
01:05:10,898 --> 01:05:14,280
growing out back there.

2239
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:15,360
So, I think

2240
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:16,296
removing these

2241
01:05:16,296 --> 01:05:17,304
dead ash trees

2242
01:05:17,304 --> 01:05:18,492
will allow the maples, you

2243
01:05:18,492 --> 01:05:20,992
know,

2244
01:05:20,992 --> 01:05:23,530
certainly, to

2245
01:05:23,530 --> 01:05:25,013
grow much better,

2246
01:05:25,013 --> 01:05:26,126
and maybe they, you

2247
01:05:26,126 --> 01:05:27,572
know, I don't think

2248
01:05:27,572 --> 01:05:28,759
we have the money to

2249
01:05:28,759 --> 01:05:30,168
plant trees right now

2250
01:05:30,168 --> 01:05:31,206
because we're both

2251
01:05:31,206 --> 01:05:32,653
retired, but, um, but, I

2252
01:05:32,653 --> 01:05:33,802
think, you know, it's

2253
01:05:33,802 --> 01:05:34,730
unfortunate with these

2254
01:05:34,730 --> 01:05:36,102
trees because we

2255
01:05:36,102 --> 01:05:37,474
see dead ash trees all over

2256
01:05:37,474 --> 01:05:40,325
town.

2257
01:05:40,325 --> 01:05:41,875
Yes, no problem. I

2258
01:05:41,875 --> 01:05:42,887
think we had a

2259
01:05:42,887 --> 01:05:44,127
few, I say that on my

2260
01:05:44,127 --> 01:05:45,090
own behalf. We're

2261
01:05:45,090 --> 01:05:45,699
going to

2262
01:05:45,699 --> 01:05:46,684
review the

2263
01:05:46,684 --> 01:05:47,727
commission members, but we have a

2264
01:05:47,727 --> 01:05:48,683
few more hearings

2265
01:05:48,683 --> 01:05:50,245
after that. Yes.

2266
01:05:50,245 --> 01:05:51,281
Um, okay.

2267
01:05:51,281 --> 01:05:52,982
Good. Finish here.

2268
01:05:52,982 --> 01:05:53,868
Thank you.

2269
01:05:53,868 --> 01:05:55,520
So what do we have to forgive?

2270
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:56,757
We are gathering, we are

2271
01:05:56,757 --> 01:05:58,158
gathering. The process is

2272
01:05:58,158 --> 01:05:59,134
this: I was a little

2273
01:05:59,134 --> 01:06:00,024
rushed. We

2274
01:06:00,024 --> 01:06:01,051
are going to quickly

2275
01:06:01,051 --> 01:06:02,078
review the members of

2276
01:06:02,078 --> 01:06:02,964
our committee.

2277
01:06:02,964 --> 01:06:04,532
Oh, okay. Sorry.

2278
01:06:04,532 --> 01:06:07,351
No, everything is fine. Um,

2279
01:06:07,351 --> 01:06:10,227
so Eric...Um, yeah,

2280
01:06:10,227 --> 01:06:13,806
no, obviously there

2281
01:06:13,806 --> 01:06:15,105
's a significant

2282
01:06:15,105 --> 01:06:16,336
amount of dead

2283
01:06:16,336 --> 01:06:17,020
ash in this area, um,

2284
01:06:17,020 --> 01:06:18,600
at least a year ago.

2285
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:19,722
I have no problem with that

2286
01:06:19,722 --> 01:06:20,333
.

2287
01:06:20,333 --> 01:06:22,631
Okay, thank you. Robbie?

2288
01:06:22,631 --> 01:06:23,968
No questions asked.

2289
01:06:23,968 --> 01:06:26,230
Good. Penny?

2290
01:06:26,230 --> 01:06:28,058
No, everything is fine.

2291
01:06:28,058 --> 01:06:29,690
Brendan?

2292
01:06:29,690 --> 01:06:31,130
I, um, I have no

2293
01:06:31,130 --> 01:06:32,719
questions. Everything is fine.

2294
01:06:32,719 --> 01:06:33,522
Thank you.

2295
01:06:33,522 --> 01:06:34,441
Jen, I'm a little

2296
01:06:34,441 --> 01:06:36,021
ahead of myself on this. Do you agree with this

2297
01:06:36,021 --> 01:06:36,608
?

2298
01:06:36,608 --> 01:06:38,346
I-I, everything is fine. They

2299
01:06:38,346 --> 01:06:39,525
do their work from the

2300
01:06:39,525 --> 01:06:40,788
street. You know, their

2301
01:06:40,788 --> 01:06:41,830
equipment will be in the

2302
01:06:41,830 --> 01:06:43,092
appropriate location, and

2303
01:06:43,092 --> 01:06:44,102
we can add,

2304
01:06:44,102 --> 01:06:45,144
you know, encourage

2305
01:06:45,144 --> 01:06:46,122
any local

2306
01:06:46,122 --> 01:06:47,385
plantings if they

2307
01:06:47,385 --> 01:06:48,391
want to.

2308
01:06:48,391 --> 01:06:49,350
Good.

2309
01:06:49,350 --> 01:06:50,083
Thank you.

2310
01:06:50,083 --> 01:06:51,662
Perfectly. So, um, do

2311
01:06:51,662 --> 01:06:54,082
we have a suggestion?

2312
01:06:54,082 --> 01:06:56,740
Negative, Jen? Three?

2313
01:06:56,740 --> 01:06:59,217
Um, well, two. Yes.

2314
01:06:59,217 --> 01:07:00,055
I'm making

2315
01:07:00,055 --> 01:07:01,198
a suggestion about

2316
01:07:01,198 --> 01:07:02,709
minus two, which is good.

2317
01:07:02,709 --> 01:07:03,179
Jen...

2318
01:07:03,179 --> 01:07:04,735
So this is Penny. Do you have a

2319
01:07:04,735 --> 01:07:05,891
second suggestion?

2320
01:07:05,891 --> 01:07:07,104
Um, second suggestion

2321
01:07:07,104 --> 01:07:07,933
from Brendan.

2322
01:07:07,933 --> 01:07:09,706
Good. All in, Eric

2323
01:07:09,706 --> 01:07:09,988
?

2324
01:07:09,988 --> 01:07:11,004
Yes.

2325
01:07:11,004 --> 01:07:12,688
And, um, Robbie?

2326
01:07:12,688 --> 01:07:13,719
Yes.

2327
01:07:13,719 --> 01:07:17,018
And, Frank, yes. So,

2328
01:07:17,018 --> 01:07:18,190
minus two actually

2329
01:07:18,190 --> 01:07:18,951
allows you

2330
01:07:18,951 --> 01:07:19,901
to go ahead and

2331
01:07:19,901 --> 01:07:22,652
do this work.

2332
01:07:22,652 --> 01:07:23,250
Good.

2333
01:07:23,250 --> 01:07:24,737
And, um, do

2334
01:07:24,737 --> 01:07:25,763
we need a separate

2335
01:07:25,763 --> 01:07:26,767
piece of paper,

2336
01:07:26,767 --> 01:07:29,287
like a permit, or

2337
01:07:29,287 --> 01:07:30,586
Y-yes, we'll provide you with the

2338
01:07:30,586 --> 01:07:31,507
documents.

2339
01:07:31,507 --> 01:07:32,095
Good.

2340
01:07:32,095 --> 01:07:33,080
But, if you can,

2341
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:34,740
contact a

2342
01:07:34,768 --> 01:07:35,528
tree care company and have

2343
01:07:35,528 --> 01:07:36,220
them do

2344
01:07:36,220 --> 01:07:37,139
the installation.

2345
01:07:37,139 --> 01:07:40,937
Of course. Because I think

2346
01:07:40,937 --> 01:07:42,356
they have, like, three

2347
01:07:42,356 --> 01:07:43,633
weeks to do it,

2348
01:07:43,633 --> 01:07:45,051
so, um, and should we

2349
01:07:45,051 --> 01:07:46,399
pick up the permit, um, from the

2350
01:07:46,399 --> 01:07:50,434
city council? Y

2351
01:07:50,434 --> 01:07:51,597
-yes, we'll let

2352
01:07:51,597 --> 01:07:52,635
you know when it's

2353
01:07:52,635 --> 01:07:53,207
ready.

2354
01:07:53,207 --> 01:07:53,802
Good.

2355
01:07:53,802 --> 01:07:54,939
Sounds good.

2356
01:07:54,939 --> 01:07:57,220
Thank you very much.

2357
01:07:57,220 --> 01:07:58,414
We appreciate it.

2358
01:07:58,414 --> 01:08:00,045
Thank you for visiting.

2359
01:08:00,045 --> 01:08:01,161
Good night.

2360
01:08:01,161 --> 01:08:02,941
You too.

2361
01:08:02,941 --> 01:08:05,895
Um, number seven, Hornbeam

2362
01:08:05,895 --> 01:08:08,850
, um, September 21, 2026

2363
01:08:08,850 --> 01:08:11,134
, 6:00 p.m. The Scituate Conservation Commission

2364
01:08:12,089 --> 01:08:13,142
will hold a public

2365
01:08:13,142 --> 01:08:14,360
meeting pursuant to

2366
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,663
Section 131 of Title 40 of the

2367
01:08:16,696 --> 01:08:17,980
Massachusetts General Laws and

2368
01:08:17,980 --> 01:08:19,230
Section 30700 of the

2369
01:08:19,230 --> 01:08:20,547
Scituate City Charter to

2370
01:08:20,547 --> 01:08:22,937
discuss a request to

2371
01:08:22,937 --> 01:08:23,733
terminate

2372
01:08:23,733 --> 01:08:24,671
a contract filed by

2373
01:08:24,671 --> 01:08:25,610
Connor Dougherty

2374
01:08:25,610 --> 01:08:26,292
for repairs to a

2375
01:08:26,292 --> 01:08:27,288
septic system

2376
01:08:27,288 --> 01:08:29,250
located at

2377
01:08:29,279 --> 01:08:30,567
7 Hornbeam Road, Scituate.

2378
01:08:30,593 --> 01:08:31,239
Representatives from

2379
01:08:31,239 --> 01:08:32,066
Abbutters and

2380
01:08:32,066 --> 01:08:32,892
other interested

2381
01:08:32,892 --> 01:08:33,929
parties are invited. Information

2382
01:08:33,929 --> 01:08:34,974
for accessing the meetings

2383
01:08:34,974 --> 01:08:36,282
is available in the agenda

2384
01:08:36,308 --> 01:08:37,197
published on the

2385
01:08:37,197 --> 01:08:37,928
website.

2386
01:08:37,928 --> 01:08:39,580
And we also have Greg Morse

2387
01:08:39,580 --> 01:08:41,592
from Morse Engineering.

2388
01:08:41,592 --> 01:08:43,300
Perfectly. Thank you. For

2389
01:08:43,300 --> 01:08:44,441
the record, Gregory

2390
01:08:44,441 --> 01:08:45,712
Morse, a registered

2391
01:08:45,712 --> 01:08:46,821
engineer of Morse Engineering,

2392
01:08:46,821 --> 01:08:48,092
represents the applicant

2393
01:08:48,092 --> 01:08:49,440
, Connor Dougherty. This is

2394
01:08:49,440 --> 01:08:50,834
an RDA for a

2395
01:08:50,834 --> 01:08:54,031
septic system upgrade at

2396
01:08:54,072 --> 01:08:55,589
7 Hornbeam Road. Looking at the plan, the

2397
01:08:55,589 --> 01:08:56,572
site boundary

2398
01:08:56,572 --> 01:08:57,884
is marked with a bold

2399
01:08:57,884 --> 01:08:59,828
black line. The lot area

2400
01:08:59,828 --> 01:09:01,549
is

2401
01:09:01,549 --> 01:09:02,866
approximately 18,176

2402
01:09:02,866 --> 01:09:04,976
square feet. There

2403
01:09:04,976 --> 01:09:05,984
is an existing

2404
01:09:05,984 --> 01:09:07,432
house on it. This is the building

2405
01:09:07,432 --> 01:09:08,897
you see on the left

2406
01:09:08,897 --> 01:09:10,275
. There is also a separate

2407
01:09:10,275 --> 01:09:10,953
garage, which

2408
01:09:10,953 --> 01:09:12,083
is located somewhere at

2409
01:09:12,083 --> 01:09:13,051
the top of

2410
01:09:13,051 --> 01:09:15,047
the screen on the right.

2411
01:09:15,047 --> 01:09:16,262
Wetlands

2412
01:09:16,262 --> 01:09:17,415
in the area are highlighted in

2413
01:09:17,415 --> 01:09:18,594
blue. They

2414
01:09:18,594 --> 01:09:20,248
were outlined by John Zimmer, a

2415
01:09:20,248 --> 01:09:21,860
professional

2416
01:09:21,860 --> 01:09:23,514
wetland scientist,

2417
01:09:23,514 --> 01:09:25,122
in July 2026. Next

2418
01:09:25,122 --> 01:09:25,981
to it, the

2419
01:09:25,981 --> 01:09:27,223
50-

2420
01:09:27,223 --> 01:09:28,178
foot buffer is marked in red, and the

2421
01:09:28,178 --> 01:09:29,260
100-foot

2422
01:09:29,260 --> 01:09:31,138
buffer is marked in green. This house,

2423
01:09:31,138 --> 01:09:32,474
again, the structure

2424
01:09:32,474 --> 01:09:33,261
on the left, has a

2425
01:09:33,261 --> 01:09:34,494
faulty septic

2426
01:09:34,494 --> 01:09:35,997
system. The proposal

2427
01:09:35,997 --> 01:09:37,176
is to

2428
01:09:37,176 --> 01:09:38,287
replace it with a new

2429
01:09:38,287 --> 01:09:39,533
septic system

2430
01:09:39,533 --> 01:09:40,409
that meets

2431
01:09:40,409 --> 01:09:41,521
Section 5 requirements.

2432
01:09:41,521 --> 01:09:42,228
The proposal

2433
01:09:42,228 --> 01:09:43,306
calls for a new

2434
01:09:43,306 --> 01:09:44,620
1,500 gallon septic tank, a

2435
01:09:44,620 --> 01:09:45,899
1,000 gallon pump chamber

2436
01:09:45,899 --> 01:09:47,213
, a junction

2437
01:09:47,213 --> 01:09:48,527
box, and then a

2438
01:09:48,527 --> 01:09:49,503
gravity

2439
01:09:49,503 --> 01:09:50,447
leach field

2440
01:09:50,447 --> 01:09:51,390
located in the

2441
01:09:51,390 --> 01:09:53,133
front yard. All

2442
01:09:53,133 --> 01:09:54,451
work is performed

2443
01:09:54,451 --> 01:09:55,769
outside the 50-foot

2444
01:09:55,769 --> 01:09:58,037
buffer zone.

2445
01:09:59,427 --> 01:10:00,296
There is a presumption in the Wetlands Protection Act 310 CMR 10.04

2446
01:10:00,296 --> 01:10:02,068
that a

2447
01:10:02,103 --> 01:10:03,319
septic system upgrade

2448
01:10:03,319 --> 01:10:04,292
located

2449
01:10:04,292 --> 01:10:05,439
outside the 50-foot

2450
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:06,656
buffer is deemed to

2451
01:10:06,656 --> 01:10:08,011
protect all

2452
01:10:08,011 --> 01:10:09,250
interests of the law. I

2453
01:10:09,250 --> 01:10:10,025
believe we

2454
01:10:10,025 --> 01:10:11,057
meet this

2455
01:10:11,057 --> 01:10:11,970
presumption. We

2456
01:10:11,970 --> 01:10:12,704
proposed

2457
01:10:12,704 --> 01:10:13,791
installing an

2458
01:10:13,791 --> 01:10:14,878
erosion control barrier at

2459
01:10:14,878 --> 01:10:15,639
the edge of the works to

2460
01:10:15,639 --> 01:10:16,645
prevent any

2461
01:10:16,645 --> 01:10:17,569
sediment migration

2462
01:10:17,569 --> 01:10:18,547
during the

2463
01:10:18,547 --> 01:10:19,471
construction phase of this

2464
01:10:19,471 --> 01:10:20,925
project. This is an area with an

2465
01:10:20,925 --> 01:10:23,989
existing lawn.

2466
01:10:23,989 --> 01:10:24,562
It will be

2467
01:10:24,562 --> 01:10:25,803
used as a lawn

2468
01:10:25,803 --> 01:10:27,076
after construction, with

2469
01:10:27,076 --> 01:10:27,904
the exception of two

2470
01:10:27,904 --> 01:10:29,082
ornamental trees: a

2471
01:10:29,082 --> 01:10:30,260
Japanese maple and a

2472
01:10:30,260 --> 01:10:31,438
dogwood, which

2473
01:10:31,438 --> 01:10:32,488
will unfortunately be removed as

2474
01:10:32,488 --> 01:10:35,498
part of this project.

2475
01:10:35,498 --> 01:10:36,508
None of them are

2476
01:10:36,508 --> 01:10:37,658
local to this

2477
01:10:37,658 --> 01:10:39,071
area. We will try to

2478
01:10:39,071 --> 01:10:39,801
move

2479
01:10:39,801 --> 01:10:42,133
at least one of them.

2480
01:10:42,133 --> 01:10:43,906
But beyond that, we

2481
01:10:43,906 --> 01:10:45,250
comply with

2482
01:10:45,250 --> 01:10:47,232
the presumption of 310 CMR 10.04.

2483
01:10:47,232 --> 01:10:48,467
The Board of Health

2484
01:10:48,467 --> 01:10:49,607
, I believe, fully

2485
01:10:49,607 --> 01:10:50,910
agrees with this plan. Uh

2486
01:10:50,910 --> 01:10:52,142
, I'll turn it over to you

2487
01:10:52,142 --> 01:10:53,122
for questions or

2488
01:10:53,122 --> 01:10:54,237
comments.

2489
01:10:54,237 --> 01:10:58,110
Thank you, Greg. Jen? Uh

2490
01:10:58,110 --> 01:10:59,772
, yes, uh, I

2491
01:10:59,772 --> 01:11:01,189
agree, the Board of

2492
01:11:01,189 --> 01:11:02,085
Health, uh,

2493
01:11:02,085 --> 01:11:04,356
I agree with the plan.

2494
01:11:04,356 --> 01:11:05,587
This is as far away from

2495
01:11:05,587 --> 01:11:07,812
wetlands as possible.

2496
01:11:07,812 --> 01:11:08,927
Er, both trees

2497
01:11:08,927 --> 01:11:10,244
were decorative.

2498
01:11:10,244 --> 01:11:11,496
Quite an interesting place to

2499
01:11:11,496 --> 01:11:12,254
have this

2500
01:11:12,254 --> 01:11:13,572
little stream

2501
01:11:13,572 --> 01:11:14,857
running between the garage

2502
01:11:14,857 --> 01:11:17,761
and the house. Uh, I would

2503
01:11:17,761 --> 01:11:18,704
say my

2504
01:11:18,704 --> 01:11:20,082
comment would be:

2505
01:11:20,082 --> 01:11:21,098
uh, maybe

2506
01:11:21,098 --> 01:11:21,968
disagree with the

2507
01:11:21,968 --> 01:11:25,841
distinction. I

2508
01:11:25,841 --> 01:11:26,971
think if it was a

2509
01:11:26,971 --> 01:11:27,930
more complex

2510
01:11:27,930 --> 01:11:28,888
project, um, we would

2511
01:11:28,888 --> 01:11:29,778
want more

2512
01:11:29,778 --> 01:11:30,771
detail, more

2513
01:11:30,771 --> 01:11:32,107
overview of the demarcation,

2514
01:11:32,107 --> 01:11:33,408
especially given that

2515
01:11:33,408 --> 01:11:34,777
there's, um, I think

2516
01:11:34,777 --> 01:11:35,770
they called it a

2517
01:11:35,770 --> 01:11:37,105
periodic flow,

2518
01:11:37,105 --> 01:11:38,132
but just...we would

2519
01:11:38,132 --> 01:11:39,023
want more

2520
01:11:39,023 --> 01:11:40,358
information and more

2521
01:11:40,358 --> 01:11:44,608
overview of that.

2522
01:11:44,608 --> 01:11:47,899
Good. Hmm, let's

2523
01:11:47,899 --> 01:11:49,524
see. Where did I

2524
01:11:49,524 --> 01:11:51,758
start? Hmm, I think

2525
01:11:51,758 --> 01:11:57,521
Robbie.

2526
01:11:57,521 --> 01:12:02,287
Thank you, Frank. Hmm.

2527
01:12:02,287 --> 01:12:03,433
So, test pit

2528
01:12:03,433 --> 01:12:04,651
number one had no

2529
01:12:04,651 --> 01:12:05,797
advantages, I

2530
01:12:05,797 --> 01:12:07,149
guess. There was

2531
01:12:07,149 --> 01:12:09,726
groundwater there.

2532
01:12:09,726 --> 01:12:10,972
So, when you do a

2533
01:12:10,972 --> 01:12:12,118
septic tank repair, you

2534
01:12:12,118 --> 01:12:13,365
make two inspection

2535
01:12:13,365 --> 01:12:14,609
pits. Uh, one of them

2536
01:12:14,609 --> 01:12:15,605
needs to be

2537
01:12:15,605 --> 01:12:16,704
tested for benefits. And

2538
01:12:16,704 --> 01:12:17,820
so, we conducted a test

2539
01:12:17,820 --> 01:12:18,574
for benefits in

2540
01:12:18,574 --> 01:12:19,629
test pit number

2541
01:12:19,629 --> 01:12:22,251
two.

2542
01:12:22,251 --> 01:12:23,257
And in section five,

2543
01:12:23,257 --> 01:12:24,295
only

2544
01:12:24,295 --> 01:12:24,956
one is required.

2545
01:12:24,956 --> 01:12:27,008
That's right.

2546
01:12:27,008 --> 01:12:28,788
Good. No more questions

2547
01:12:28,788 --> 01:12:29,724
.

2548
01:12:29,724 --> 01:12:32,863
Good. Hmm, Penny?

2549
01:12:32,863 --> 01:12:34,280
No, I think

2550
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:37,129
everything is fine. Thank you.

2551
01:12:37,129 --> 01:12:38,730
Brendan?

2552
01:12:38,730 --> 01:12:40,057
I have no questions.

2553
01:12:40,057 --> 01:12:41,696
Thank you. Uh,

2554
01:12:41,696 --> 01:12:43,967
Eric? Uh,

2555
01:12:43,967 --> 01:12:44,969
I don't have any

2556
01:12:44,969 --> 01:12:46,394
other questions either. Thank you,

2557
01:12:46,394 --> 01:12:47,089
Frank.

2558
01:12:47,089 --> 01:12:48,654
Good. Do we have anyone in the

2559
01:12:48,654 --> 01:12:50,835
audience?

2560
01:12:50,835 --> 01:12:52,368
Uh, yes, we have one

2561
01:12:52,368 --> 01:12:53,635
hand raised. I'll

2562
01:12:53,635 --> 01:12:58,189
turn on the sound for them.

2563
01:12:58,189 --> 01:12:59,581
Hello, guys. I am,

2564
01:12:59,581 --> 01:13:00,948
in fact, the future

2565
01:13:00,948 --> 01:13:02,140
homeowner of this

2566
01:13:02,140 --> 01:13:03,165
house. So I

2567
01:13:03,165 --> 01:13:04,325
was working on this with

2568
01:13:04,325 --> 01:13:05,614
Greg and I just wanted to

2569
01:13:05,614 --> 01:13:06,516
express my

2570
01:13:06,516 --> 01:13:07,740
gratitude to everyone for

2571
01:13:07,740 --> 01:13:08,803
watching this tonight

2572
01:13:08,803 --> 01:13:11,600
.

2573
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,565
Thank you. It looks like you're

2574
01:13:14,565 --> 01:13:16,801
moving on.

2575
01:13:16,801 --> 01:13:17,975
Hooray.

2576
01:13:17,975 --> 01:13:19,107
Frank, can we

2577
01:13:19,107 --> 01:13:20,209
just confirm the

2578
01:13:20,209 --> 01:13:20,554
name?

2579
01:13:20,554 --> 01:13:22,013
Yes, okay. Name and

2580
01:13:22,013 --> 01:13:23,313
address, please.

2581
01:13:23,313 --> 01:13:24,426
Oh well, my name is

2582
01:13:24,426 --> 01:13:25,568
Devon Zolk. My

2583
01:13:25,568 --> 01:13:26,499
partner's name is

2584
01:13:26,499 --> 01:13:27,530
Connor Dougherty.

2585
01:13:27,530 --> 01:13:28,432
Got it.

2586
01:13:28,432 --> 01:13:30,457
Yes.

2587
01:13:30,457 --> 01:13:34,083
Thank you, Devon. So,

2588
01:13:34,083 --> 01:13:35,471
Devon, while you're here,

2589
01:13:35,471 --> 01:13:36,897
um, just so you know, what you're

2590
01:13:36,897 --> 01:13:37,976
hearing

2591
01:13:37,976 --> 01:13:39,402
tonight, and you've seen the

2592
01:13:39,402 --> 01:13:40,751
plan, is that there was a

2593
01:13:40,751 --> 01:13:42,254
wetland line

2594
01:13:42,254 --> 01:13:43,719
, um, drawn by,

2595
01:13:43,719 --> 01:13:45,222
um, Self River Environmental, which

2596
01:13:45,222 --> 01:13:46,340
shows something like a

2597
01:13:46,340 --> 01:13:47,650
creek

2598
01:13:47,650 --> 01:13:48,730
running through

2599
01:13:48,730 --> 01:13:51,081
the area and the wetlands

2600
01:13:51,119 --> 01:13:54,988
behind it. So for the purposes of

2601
01:13:54,988 --> 01:13:55,899
this hearing,

2602
01:13:55,899 --> 01:13:57,038
the commission accepts this

2603
01:13:57,038 --> 01:13:58,307
wetland line

2604
01:13:58,307 --> 01:14:02,353
. But, if

2605
01:14:02,353 --> 01:14:03,263
you're

2606
01:14:03,263 --> 01:14:04,368
going to do

2607
01:14:04,368 --> 01:14:05,635
other projects on this in the future

2608
01:14:05,635 --> 01:14:06,610
, you'll have to

2609
01:14:06,610 --> 01:14:07,813
check out this

2610
01:14:07,813 --> 01:14:09,113
wetland line,

2611
01:14:09,113 --> 01:14:12,415
um, the other side.

2612
01:14:12,415 --> 01:14:14,802
So, we're not questioning that tonight

2613
01:14:14,833 --> 01:14:17,417
. The septic

2614
01:14:17,417 --> 01:14:18,547
system is far enough

2615
01:14:18,547 --> 01:14:19,344
away, but in

2616
01:14:19,344 --> 01:14:20,606
the future if you

2617
01:14:20,606 --> 01:14:21,901
plan on doing other

2618
01:14:21,901 --> 01:14:23,164
things on the lot you

2619
01:14:23,164 --> 01:14:24,127
should obviously

2620
01:14:24,127 --> 01:14:24,991
check with

2621
01:14:24,991 --> 01:14:26,917
the commission as there

2622
01:14:26,950 --> 01:14:28,113
is quite a bit of

2623
01:14:28,113 --> 01:14:29,408
wetland

2624
01:14:29,408 --> 01:14:32,643
or buffer zone around your property.

2625
01:14:32,643 --> 01:14:33,836
So, we know that there

2626
01:14:33,836 --> 01:14:35,872
is a lawn there, and it was already

2627
01:14:35,907 --> 01:14:39,741
built on before. So, we

2628
01:14:39,741 --> 01:14:43,960
see all this. Just

2629
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:45,183
keep in mind that if you

2630
01:14:45,183 --> 01:14:46,020
are in a

2631
01:14:46,020 --> 01:14:47,211
sensitive area, or in

2632
01:14:47,211 --> 01:14:48,434
the future if you are

2633
01:14:48,434 --> 01:14:49,496
planning

2634
01:14:49,496 --> 01:14:50,462
yard work, you will want

2635
01:14:50,462 --> 01:14:51,717
to check with the

2636
01:14:51,717 --> 01:14:52,780
conservation department about

2637
01:14:52,780 --> 01:14:56,826
this.

2638
01:14:56,826 --> 01:15:01,144
Of course. Good.

2639
01:15:01,144 --> 01:15:02,391
Considering all this, I

2640
01:15:02,391 --> 01:15:03,959
accept the offer.

2641
01:15:03,959 --> 01:15:05,224
I propose a

2642
01:15:05,224 --> 01:15:06,504
minus three.

2643
01:15:06,504 --> 01:15:08,806
This is Penny. Do we have a

2644
01:15:08,806 --> 01:15:09,951
second?

2645
01:15:09,951 --> 01:15:11,645
from Brendan.

2646
01:15:11,645 --> 01:15:14,047
All P. Eric?

2647
01:15:14,047 --> 01:15:15,042
Yes.

2648
01:15:15,042 --> 01:15:16,507
And Robbie?

2649
01:15:16,507 --> 01:15:17,762
Yes.

2650
01:15:17,762 --> 01:15:19,359
And Frank, yes. So,

2651
01:15:19,359 --> 01:15:20,598
minus is good for

2652
01:15:20,598 --> 01:15:23,219
you, Devin. And good luck

2653
01:15:23,219 --> 01:15:27,061
with your house.

2654
01:15:27,061 --> 01:15:28,220
Thank you.

2655
01:15:28,220 --> 01:15:35,913
Perfectly.

2656
01:15:35,913 --> 01:15:42,912
Sorry. 11 145 RR Glades Road.

2657
01:15:42,912 --> 01:15:44,517
Right. On

2658
01:15:44,517 --> 01:15:45,757
September 25, 2026 at

2659
01:15:45,757 --> 01:15:48,026
6:00 p.m., the Scituate Conservation Commission

2660
01:15:48,061 --> 01:15:49,195
will hold a

2661
01:15:49,195 --> 01:15:50,188
public meeting

2662
01:15:50,188 --> 01:15:51,109
pursuant to

2663
01:15:51,109 --> 01:15:53,626
Chapter 131, Chapter 40,

2664
01:15:53,661 --> 01:15:54,902
Massachusetts General Laws,

2665
01:15:54,902 --> 01:15:56,036
Chapter 30700, Scituate Code of

2666
01:15:56,036 --> 01:15:57,029
Statutes

2667
01:15:57,029 --> 01:15:57,915
, to

2668
01:15:57,915 --> 01:15:59,226
discuss the request for a

2669
01:15:59,226 --> 01:15:59,971
determination of

2670
01:15:59,971 --> 01:16:00,963
applicability

2671
01:16:00,963 --> 01:16:02,239
filed ex post facto by

2672
01:16:02,239 --> 01:16:03,444
Bill Murphy regarding

2673
01:16:03,444 --> 01:16:05,713
the installation of a storage shed

2674
01:16:05,748 --> 01:16:06,883
located at

2675
01:16:06,883 --> 01:16:08,017
145

2676
01:16:08,017 --> 01:16:09,293
Rear Glades Road,

2677
01:16:09,293 --> 01:16:10,250
which is no longer

2678
01:16:10,250 --> 01:16:11,609
of interest. We invite you

2679
01:16:11,609 --> 01:16:12,827
to a meeting regarding prices

2680
01:16:12,827 --> 01:16:13,427
. Access to

2681
01:16:13,427 --> 01:16:14,442
meeting information

2682
01:16:14,442 --> 01:16:15,795
is available in the agenda

2683
01:16:15,821 --> 01:16:16,706
published on the

2684
01:16:16,706 --> 01:16:18,204
website.

2685
01:16:18,204 --> 01:16:19,778
And I believe we have a

2686
01:16:19,778 --> 01:16:22,688
homeowner on the line.

2687
01:16:22,688 --> 01:16:24,564
Yes. Can everyone hear?

2688
01:16:24,564 --> 01:16:25,701
We caught you.

2689
01:16:25,701 --> 01:16:27,161
Okay, great.

2690
01:16:27,161 --> 01:16:28,507
Thank you very much everyone, and sorry

2691
01:16:28,507 --> 01:16:29,919
I'm not in the video. I

2692
01:16:29,919 --> 01:16:31,135
tried, but it wouldn't let

2693
01:16:31,135 --> 01:16:32,249
me

2694
01:16:32,249 --> 01:16:33,329
do it.

2695
01:16:33,329 --> 01:16:34,283
I had the same

2696
01:16:34,283 --> 01:16:36,075
problem.

2697
01:16:36,075 --> 01:16:37,163
But I think you don't

2698
01:16:37,163 --> 01:16:38,218
mind if you don't

2699
01:16:38,218 --> 01:16:39,577
see my face.

2700
01:16:39,577 --> 01:16:41,661
Yes, Bill Murphy, 145 RR,

2701
01:16:41,661 --> 01:16:44,368
yes, Glades Road. Um, in

2702
01:16:44,368 --> 01:16:45,943
Scituate, and yes, my

2703
01:16:45,943 --> 01:16:47,393
wife Susan is

2704
01:16:47,393 --> 01:16:50,668
here too. And we, yes, we

2705
01:16:50,668 --> 01:16:51,407
dismantled and

2706
01:16:51,407 --> 01:16:52,577
rebuilt about

2707
01:16:52,577 --> 01:16:53,593
three and a half

2708
01:16:53,593 --> 01:16:56,002
years ago. Hmm, a

2709
01:16:56,002 --> 01:16:57,667
little 1920 cottage

2710
01:16:57,667 --> 01:16:59,286
that

2711
01:16:59,286 --> 01:17:00,808
my parents owned. We are very

2712
01:17:00,808 --> 01:17:01,922
pleased with how

2713
01:17:01,922 --> 01:17:03,068
everything turned out, and I am

2714
01:17:03,068 --> 01:17:04,018
sorry that we are here

2715
01:17:04,018 --> 01:17:05,262
before you today,

2716
01:17:05,262 --> 01:17:06,441
because after going through

2717
01:17:06,441 --> 01:17:07,718
so much that we have

2718
01:17:07,718 --> 01:17:08,996
been through, we certainly did not

2719
01:17:08,996 --> 01:17:10,207
intend for this

2720
01:17:10,207 --> 01:17:11,386
barn to turn out the way it

2721
01:17:11,386 --> 01:17:14,697
is. We, um, we...

2722
01:17:14,697 --> 01:17:15,960
it's a 96

2723
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:17,499
square foot shed, and I

2724
01:17:17,499 --> 01:17:18,406
believe 200

2725
01:17:18,406 --> 01:17:19,787
square feet or

2726
01:17:19,787 --> 01:17:21,129
more is what the

2727
01:17:21,129 --> 01:17:22,036
building

2728
01:17:22,036 --> 01:17:23,378
inspector requires

2729
01:17:23,378 --> 01:17:24,817
a permit for. When we

2730
01:17:24,817 --> 01:17:25,668
found out, we

2731
01:17:25,668 --> 01:17:27,029
thought, “Oh, okay.

2732
01:17:27,029 --> 01:17:28,040
Well, we'll just have

2733
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:29,147
our little

2734
01:17:29,147 --> 01:17:30,363
shed. We will lift

2735
01:17:30,363 --> 01:17:31,559
it above the ground. We will

2736
01:17:31,559 --> 01:17:32,600
put him in a

2737
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:33,740
place that we

2738
01:17:33,740 --> 01:17:34,445
believe will be the

2739
01:17:34,445 --> 01:17:35,653
safest for

2740
01:17:35,653 --> 01:17:38,180
his safety. He

2741
01:17:38,180 --> 01:17:41,401
will be four piles away.

2742
01:17:41,401 --> 01:17:42,325
It will also be on

2743
01:17:42,325 --> 01:17:43,281
three of the four

2744
01:17:43,281 --> 01:17:44,484
sides behind cross

2745
01:17:44,484 --> 01:17:45,193
beams that

2746
01:17:45,193 --> 01:17:46,303
attach to the piles

2747
01:17:46,303 --> 01:17:47,073
to keep them

2748
01:17:47,073 --> 01:17:52,617
stable. So, yeah, we're

2749
01:17:52,617 --> 01:17:53,729
here, I guess, to

2750
01:17:53,729 --> 01:17:57,445
ask, what is it?

2751
01:17:57,445 --> 01:18:00,156
We have already considered this.

2752
01:18:00,156 --> 01:18:01,279
Yes, I'm not sure about the

2753
01:18:01,279 --> 01:18:01,959
correct

2754
01:18:01,959 --> 01:18:03,305
wording. Um, I'm not

2755
01:18:03,305 --> 01:18:04,570
sure what else you

2756
01:18:04,570 --> 01:18:05,691
want me to

2757
01:18:05,691 --> 01:18:10,278
tell you. The floor of the barn

2758
01:18:10,278 --> 01:18:11,273
is

2759
01:18:11,273 --> 01:18:12,553
14 inches off

2760
01:18:12,553 --> 01:18:13,940
the ground, and in fact, the

2761
01:18:13,940 --> 01:18:15,148
photo you

2762
01:18:15,148 --> 01:18:16,499
all see says

2763
01:18:16,499 --> 01:18:17,601
"northeast,

2764
01:18:17,601 --> 01:18:18,774
north,

2765
01:18:18,774 --> 01:18:23,318
northeast." Um, this is the door.

2766
01:18:23,318 --> 01:18:25,130
They only have one door.

2767
01:18:25,130 --> 01:18:26,551
Um, and I think the door

2768
01:18:26,551 --> 01:18:27,759
shows that it's

2769
01:18:27,759 --> 01:18:29,163
quite tall. This, um,

2770
01:18:29,163 --> 01:18:30,206
that floor you

2771
01:18:30,206 --> 01:18:31,376
see is

2772
01:18:31,376 --> 01:18:32,552
at a height of 14 inches.

2773
01:18:32,552 --> 01:18:35,800
above the ground. And there is only

2774
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:37,748
one door. This...This is

2775
01:18:37,748 --> 01:18:39,131
actually just...This is

2776
01:18:39,131 --> 01:18:40,407
attached to...um, the

2777
01:18:40,407 --> 01:18:41,789
plywood that is the bottom of

2778
01:18:41,789 --> 01:18:42,853
our

2779
01:18:42,853 --> 01:18:45,531
first floor. So

2780
01:18:45,531 --> 01:18:46,423
it's very, very

2781
01:18:46,423 --> 01:18:47,645
securely attached by

2782
01:18:47,645 --> 01:18:48,768
...um, a licensed

2783
01:18:48,768 --> 01:18:52,486
builder. And, uh,

2784
01:18:52,486 --> 01:18:53,832
it's just...a

2785
01:18:53,832 --> 01:18:55,304
storage shed.

2786
01:18:55,304 --> 01:18:56,081
It has no

2787
01:18:56,081 --> 01:18:57,310
electricity. It

2788
01:18:57,310 --> 01:18:58,492
doesn't have a window. It

2789
01:18:58,492 --> 01:18:59,322
just has a door so

2790
01:18:59,322 --> 01:19:00,281
you can go in

2791
01:19:00,281 --> 01:19:01,459
and out. Uh, and everything

2792
01:19:01,459 --> 01:19:02,696
we store there

2793
01:19:02,696 --> 01:19:03,870
is stuff that used to

2794
01:19:03,870 --> 01:19:05,138
be in the basement when

2795
01:19:05,138 --> 01:19:06,375
we had a basement, and, uh,

2796
01:19:06,375 --> 01:19:07,422
there obviously has to

2797
01:19:07,422 --> 01:19:09,037
be minimal. There

2798
01:19:09,037 --> 01:19:10,258
is some furniture there that,

2799
01:19:10,258 --> 01:19:11,173
when my daughter

2800
01:19:11,173 --> 01:19:12,225
finally moves in,

2801
01:19:12,225 --> 01:19:13,714
will go with her. Uh, and

2802
01:19:13,714 --> 01:19:14,794
then a few...um,

2803
01:19:14,794 --> 01:19:15,873
items that we've

2804
01:19:15,873 --> 01:19:16,953
collected over the

2805
01:19:16,953 --> 01:19:17,998
years.

2806
01:19:17,998 --> 01:19:21,638
Good. Thank you. Uh, Jen

2807
01:19:21,638 --> 01:19:22,872
, do you want

2808
01:19:22,872 --> 01:19:24,641
to explain this first?

2809
01:19:24,641 --> 01:19:28,022
Of course. Uh, it was,

2810
01:19:28,022 --> 01:19:29,367
you know, a house that had

2811
01:19:29,367 --> 01:19:30,312
recently been

2812
01:19:30,312 --> 01:19:31,730
built on stilts, as

2813
01:19:31,730 --> 01:19:33,111
mentioned, and, uh

2814
01:19:33,111 --> 01:19:34,274
, noticed that there

2815
01:19:34,274 --> 01:19:35,474
was this

2816
01:19:35,474 --> 01:19:36,783
fence built there, and since

2817
01:19:36,783 --> 01:19:37,873
they were in the back, it was

2818
01:19:37,873 --> 01:19:39,255
hard to tell exactly

2819
01:19:39,255 --> 01:19:43,024
what it was. Uh, you...

2820
01:19:43,024 --> 01:19:44,167
I know whether it was a

2821
01:19:44,167 --> 01:19:45,507
finished area or a

2822
01:19:45,507 --> 01:19:47,789
staircase. Um, an

2823
01:19:47,789 --> 01:19:48,927
email was sent and

2824
01:19:48,927 --> 01:19:50,031
they responded and

2825
01:19:50,031 --> 01:19:51,168
confirmed that it was a

2826
01:19:51,168 --> 01:19:53,625
barn. It's

2827
01:19:53,625 --> 01:19:54,749
okay, it's not

2828
01:19:54,749 --> 01:19:59,002
ready. These are not stairs.

2829
01:19:59,002 --> 01:20:00,318
The stairs are located,

2830
01:20:00,318 --> 01:20:01,785
perhaps, on the side of the barn,

2831
01:20:01,785 --> 01:20:03,102
on the side of the swamp, if

2832
01:20:03,102 --> 01:20:05,349
possible...Um,

2833
01:20:05,349 --> 01:20:06,893
we have...well, um, the stairs are

2834
01:20:06,893 --> 01:20:08,275
by the barn, not on the

2835
01:20:08,275 --> 01:20:09,892
side of the swamp. They are

2836
01:20:09,892 --> 01:20:10,776
located on the

2837
01:20:10,776 --> 01:20:12,352
north side.

2838
01:20:12,352 --> 01:20:13,558
Okay, but they're not

2839
01:20:13,558 --> 01:20:15,363
fenced. They are

2840
01:20:15,363 --> 01:20:17,186
still open. So,

2841
01:20:17,186 --> 01:20:18,202
the building had no

2842
01:20:18,202 --> 01:20:21,469
objections.

2843
01:20:21,469 --> 01:20:22,528
It was too

2844
01:20:22,528 --> 01:20:23,139
small to

2845
01:20:23,139 --> 01:20:24,359
need a

2846
01:20:24,359 --> 01:20:25,483
building permit, and I

2847
01:20:25,483 --> 01:20:26,447
actually

2848
01:20:26,447 --> 01:20:27,442
checked with Coastal as well,

2849
01:20:27,442 --> 01:20:28,598
as it's essentially

2850
01:20:28,598 --> 01:20:29,433
in a

2851
01:20:29,433 --> 01:20:30,590
floodplain, and since

2852
01:20:30,590 --> 01:20:31,617
it wasn't a finished

2853
01:20:31,617 --> 01:20:32,870
space, they didn't have

2854
01:20:32,870 --> 01:20:33,898
any specific

2855
01:20:33,898 --> 01:20:35,118
concerns about it from

2856
01:20:35,118 --> 01:20:39,008
that perspective. Um,

2857
01:20:39,008 --> 01:20:40,300
also from some of their

2858
01:20:40,300 --> 01:20:41,185
photos and

2859
01:20:41,185 --> 01:20:42,273
discussion, um,

2860
01:20:42,273 --> 01:20:43,362
I learned that she was

2861
01:20:43,362 --> 01:20:44,688
attached to their

2862
01:20:44,688 --> 01:20:46,894
piles. So, there were no

2863
01:20:46,894 --> 01:20:48,047
disturbances in the

2864
01:20:48,047 --> 01:20:50,162
soil. There is no

2865
01:20:50,162 --> 01:20:51,433
concrete platform,

2866
01:20:51,433 --> 01:20:52,450
um, or any

2867
01:20:52,450 --> 01:20:56,800
such changes. So I

2868
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:57,681
brought it here as a

2869
01:20:57,681 --> 01:20:58,700
shed after

2870
01:20:58,700 --> 01:20:59,195
it is

2871
01:20:59,195 --> 01:21:00,104
installed, which

2872
01:21:00,104 --> 01:21:01,151
can be permanent;

2873
01:21:01,151 --> 01:21:01,702
Um, you know,

2874
01:21:01,702 --> 01:21:02,583
given that we're

2875
01:21:02,583 --> 01:21:03,299
in a

2876
01:21:03,299 --> 01:21:04,208
barrier beach

2877
01:21:04,208 --> 01:21:05,254
area, we're

2878
01:21:05,254 --> 01:21:06,053
in a buffer zone of

2879
01:21:06,053 --> 01:21:07,017
marsh and land that's

2880
01:21:07,017 --> 01:21:07,953
exposed to

2881
01:21:07,953 --> 01:21:10,655
coastal currents.

2882
01:21:10,655 --> 01:21:11,883
But, um, you could often

2883
01:21:11,883 --> 01:21:13,249
argue that if

2884
01:21:13,249 --> 01:21:14,546
it's small enough

2885
01:21:14,546 --> 01:21:16,390
not to need a

2886
01:21:16,424 --> 01:21:17,755
building permit, then it's, um

2887
01:21:17,755 --> 01:21:18,677
, you know, you could

2888
01:21:18,677 --> 01:21:20,042
argue that it's been

2889
01:21:20,042 --> 01:21:21,408
minimized, which would be

2890
01:21:21,408 --> 01:21:22,739
, um, one of the rules for

2891
01:21:22,739 --> 01:21:24,002
building a shed in a

2892
01:21:24,002 --> 01:21:24,788
coastal

2893
01:21:24,788 --> 01:21:31,028
resource zone.

2894
01:21:31,028 --> 01:21:34,558
Good. Um, I think we're

2895
01:21:34,558 --> 01:21:37,162
back to Penny.

2896
01:21:37,162 --> 01:21:38,406
Yeah, just a quick

2897
01:21:38,406 --> 01:21:40,432
question. Um,

2898
01:21:40,432 --> 01:21:41,754
please don't store

2899
01:21:41,754 --> 01:21:43,007
any hazardous

2900
01:21:43,007 --> 01:21:44,294
materials, gasoline,

2901
01:21:44,294 --> 01:21:45,547
or anything like that in the

2902
01:21:45,547 --> 01:21:47,741
shed. Just in case

2903
01:21:47,741 --> 01:21:49,189
we have a storm

2904
01:21:49,189 --> 01:21:49,571
and...

2905
01:21:49,571 --> 01:21:51,155
you know, it'll be the first thing to

2906
01:21:51,155 --> 01:21:53,505
disappear. So, um, that's

2907
01:21:53,505 --> 01:21:55,134
all I'm asking is that

2908
01:21:55,134 --> 01:21:56,129
you don't...

2909
01:21:56,129 --> 01:21:57,602
Yeah. No, thank you for the

2910
01:21:57,602 --> 01:21:58,786
suggestion.

2911
01:21:58,786 --> 01:22:00,148
We keep all that stuff,

2912
01:22:00,148 --> 01:22:01,151
um, we keep it

2913
01:22:01,151 --> 01:22:02,438
inside.

2914
01:22:02,438 --> 01:22:04,108
Yeah, it's just...

2915
01:22:04,108 --> 01:22:05,297
The house, I

2916
01:22:05,297 --> 01:22:06,126
mean, not...

2917
01:22:06,126 --> 01:22:07,647
No, no, I see what

2918
01:22:07,647 --> 01:22:09,412
you mean. This

2919
01:22:09,412 --> 01:22:12,185
... This is part of it, right? Yes, that's

2920
01:22:12,185 --> 01:22:13,282
right.

2921
01:22:13,282 --> 01:22:14,200
and we don't want

2922
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:15,577
pollutants

2923
01:22:15,577 --> 01:22:17,101
, okay? But other than that

2924
01:22:17,101 --> 01:22:18,270
, I have no

2925
01:22:18,270 --> 01:22:19,607
problems with the project.

2926
01:22:19,607 --> 01:22:20,579
Thank you.

2927
01:22:20,579 --> 01:22:24,513
Thanks, uh, Brendan.

2928
01:22:24,513 --> 01:22:25,677
Yes, I have no

2929
01:22:25,677 --> 01:22:26,688
questions.

2930
01:22:26,688 --> 01:22:30,900
Good. Eric.

2931
01:22:30,900 --> 01:22:32,130
Um, yes, when I

2932
01:22:32,130 --> 01:22:33,756
look at the FEMA map,

2933
01:22:33,756 --> 01:22:35,513
it shows AE zone 15,

2934
01:22:35,513 --> 01:22:38,677
not speed. So, I

2935
01:22:38,677 --> 01:22:40,058
think considering

2936
01:22:40,058 --> 01:22:41,368
we're going over the

2937
01:22:41,368 --> 01:22:43,955
speed limit and there's no

2938
01:22:43,955 --> 01:22:45,174
pad or anything

2939
01:22:45,174 --> 01:22:46,567
like that, I think it's

2940
01:22:46,567 --> 01:22:49,362
okay. Thank you.

2941
01:22:49,362 --> 01:22:51,421
Um, Robbie.

2942
01:22:51,421 --> 01:22:54,043
Thank you, Frank. So, is

2943
01:22:54,043 --> 01:22:57,968
this under construction?

2944
01:22:57,968 --> 01:23:04,283
Yes.

2945
01:23:04,283 --> 01:23:05,650
And did you mention that this is

2946
01:23:05,650 --> 01:23:06,631
attached to the

2947
01:23:06,631 --> 01:23:07,753
existing piles

2948
01:23:07,753 --> 01:23:08,909
as well as the existing

2949
01:23:08,909 --> 01:23:13,614
structure?

2950
01:23:13,614 --> 01:23:14,785
This is attached to the

2951
01:23:14,785 --> 01:23:16,204
existing structure from

2952
01:23:16,204 --> 01:23:17,631
above. Mmm.

2953
01:23:17,631 --> 01:23:18,855
Right. Yeah, I

2954
01:23:18,855 --> 01:23:20,098
get it, I don't think

2955
01:23:20,098 --> 01:23:21,048
I was asked to

2956
01:23:21,048 --> 01:23:22,226
appear higher, but,

2957
01:23:22,226 --> 01:23:23,175
um, you know, our

2958
01:23:23,175 --> 01:23:24,059
first floor

2959
01:23:24,059 --> 01:23:25,336
obviously has the floor that

2960
01:23:25,336 --> 01:23:26,580
we're standing on, and

2961
01:23:26,580 --> 01:23:27,431
then the

2962
01:23:27,431 --> 01:23:28,315
subfloor, and then the

2963
01:23:28,315 --> 01:23:29,362
insulation, and then the

2964
01:23:29,362 --> 01:23:30,508
plywood that goes under

2965
01:23:30,508 --> 01:23:31,529
all of that. This...This is

2966
01:23:31,529 --> 01:23:33,338
attached to this.

2967
01:23:33,338 --> 01:23:34,137
And then

2968
01:23:34,137 --> 01:23:35,085
along with what's

2969
01:23:35,085 --> 01:23:36,004
attached...

2970
01:23:36,004 --> 01:23:36,702
Sorry.

2971
01:23:36,702 --> 01:23:38,562
No, sorry. Boldly.

2972
01:23:38,562 --> 01:23:40,780
From below. This is, uh, its

2973
01:23:40,780 --> 01:23:42,509
support on existing piles

2974
01:23:42,509 --> 01:23:51,001
. How is it down there? Or...

2975
01:23:51,001 --> 01:23:52,622
No, from the bottom, the four corners

2976
01:23:52,622 --> 01:23:54,243
... uh, you know, there are pillars

2977
01:23:54,243 --> 01:23:55,864
that stand on it,

2978
01:23:55,864 --> 01:23:57,236
I think, so-called

2979
01:23:57,236 --> 01:24:00,230
diamond pillars.

2980
01:24:00,230 --> 01:24:02,206
Good. So, the supports, uh

2981
01:24:02,206 --> 01:24:03,250
, are unique to the

2982
01:24:03,250 --> 01:24:08,169
barn structure. Er

2983
01:24:08,169 --> 01:24:11,249
, yes. Uh,

2984
01:24:11,249 --> 01:24:12,590
no more questions for you.

2985
01:24:12,590 --> 01:24:14,926
Thank you. Good. Is there

2986
01:24:14,926 --> 01:24:16,209
anyone in the audience

2987
01:24:16,209 --> 01:24:20,443
on this?

2988
01:24:20,443 --> 01:24:22,521
No, I didn't raise my hands. It's

2989
01:24:22,521 --> 01:24:23,967
just us.

2990
01:24:23,967 --> 01:24:26,833
Good. So, I want to

2991
01:24:26,868 --> 01:24:30,871
understand this in more detail. Is this a shed

2992
01:24:30,871 --> 01:24:32,178
, or was it... There were

2993
01:24:32,178 --> 01:24:33,380
driven foundations

2994
01:24:33,380 --> 01:24:34,687
or diamond piers, and

2995
01:24:34,687 --> 01:24:35,570
then this was

2996
01:24:35,570 --> 01:24:40,521
built, and this was

2997
01:24:40,521 --> 01:24:41,774
built in place,

2998
01:24:41,774 --> 01:24:42,829
and this is attached to the

2999
01:24:42,829 --> 01:24:43,819
bottom of the

3000
01:24:43,819 --> 01:24:45,105
existing structure

3001
01:24:45,105 --> 01:24:47,269
. Is that correct?

3002
01:24:47,269 --> 01:24:49,939
Yes, that's right.

3003
01:24:49,939 --> 01:24:51,197
So, technically it's not

3004
01:24:51,197 --> 01:24:52,285
like a freestanding

3005
01:24:52,285 --> 01:24:54,860
shed. This...This is outside the

3006
01:24:54,860 --> 01:24:58,791
house. Uh, well,

3007
01:24:58,791 --> 01:24:59,781
I'm not sure if

3008
01:24:59,781 --> 01:25:00,741
detached is the

3009
01:25:00,741 --> 01:25:01,702
term to

3010
01:25:01,702 --> 01:25:02,872
use, but

3011
01:25:02,872 --> 01:25:03,982
I mean it's

3012
01:25:03,982 --> 01:25:05,033
not...a shed that's

3013
01:25:05,033 --> 01:25:06,023
in someone's

3014
01:25:06,023 --> 01:25:06,964
backyard.

3015
01:25:06,964 --> 01:25:14,002
Good. Um...Oh, that's... It's

3016
01:25:14,002 --> 01:25:17,577
a shame there's a gap between the

3017
01:25:17,577 --> 01:25:18,279
building

3018
01:25:18,279 --> 01:25:19,438
department, you guys,

3019
01:25:19,438 --> 01:25:20,385
when they can

3020
01:25:20,385 --> 01:25:21,686
build a shed...

3021
01:25:21,686 --> 01:25:22,242
Mhm...

3022
01:25:22,242 --> 01:25:23,071
that's less than 200

3023
01:25:23,071 --> 01:25:24,282
square feet and

3024
01:25:24,282 --> 01:25:25,665
doesn't require

3025
01:25:25,665 --> 01:25:28,665
a permit, but I do

3026
01:25:28,665 --> 01:25:30,086
n't really see

3027
01:25:30,086 --> 01:25:31,699
the danger here. Although

3028
01:25:31,699 --> 01:25:32,769
personally, if this

3029
01:25:32,769 --> 01:25:34,106
issue were being considered

3030
01:25:34,106 --> 01:25:35,376
by the commission, I think

3031
01:25:35,376 --> 01:25:36,312
we would at least

3032
01:25:36,312 --> 01:25:37,382
ask that it

3033
01:25:37,382 --> 01:25:38,585
be a little further from the

3034
01:25:38,585 --> 01:25:39,259
ground...

3035
01:25:39,259 --> 01:25:40,593
Mhm...so that

3036
01:25:40,593 --> 01:25:45,558
the water could flow.

3037
01:25:45,558 --> 01:25:47,159
Um, it looks like there

3038
01:25:47,159 --> 01:25:48,761
's only a few inches under this,

3039
01:25:48,761 --> 01:25:49,993
um, and I'm not entirely

3040
01:25:49,993 --> 01:25:51,143
sure I

3041
01:25:51,143 --> 01:25:52,744
define it as a shed.

3042
01:25:52,744 --> 01:25:55,812
Boldly.

3043
01:25:55,812 --> 01:25:57,893
Sorry.

3044
01:25:57,893 --> 01:25:59,102
It actually varies a little bit

3045
01:25:59,102 --> 01:26:00,381
, um,

3046
01:26:00,381 --> 01:26:01,557
because the whole area is not...

3047
01:26:01,557 --> 01:26:04,303
It's uneven.

3048
01:26:04,303 --> 01:26:05,890
Ahem.

3049
01:26:05,890 --> 01:26:07,106
So, I actually

3050
01:26:07,106 --> 01:26:08,209
measured, um, in

3051
01:26:08,209 --> 01:26:09,540
daylight for

3052
01:26:09,540 --> 01:26:10,947
another measurement,

3053
01:26:10,947 --> 01:26:12,354
um, during the day, and at some

3054
01:26:12,354 --> 01:26:13,571
points it's 6 1/2

3055
01:26:13,571 --> 01:26:16,235
inches above the ground. And I'm

3056
01:26:16,235 --> 01:26:17,559
talking about the

3057
01:26:17,559 --> 01:26:18,382
exterior, which

3058
01:26:18,382 --> 01:26:19,778
is actually...it's Hardie

3059
01:26:19,778 --> 01:26:20,744
...The board that we

3060
01:26:20,744 --> 01:26:21,889
did on the outside because

3061
01:26:21,889 --> 01:26:23,284
it matches the house

3062
01:26:23,284 --> 01:26:24,179
, and it's...Umm...

3063
01:26:24,179 --> 01:26:25,145
fireproof, and

3064
01:26:25,145 --> 01:26:26,576
waterproof, and all

3065
01:26:26,576 --> 01:26:28,354
that. Um, and then at

3066
01:26:28,354 --> 01:26:29,810
other points it's

3067
01:26:29,810 --> 01:26:31,343
3 1/2 inches off the

3068
01:26:31,343 --> 01:26:32,688
ground.

3069
01:26:32,688 --> 01:26:40,475
Good. Good. Um...Oh. I

3070
01:26:40,475 --> 01:26:41,917
think, uh... Again

3071
01:26:41,917 --> 01:26:43,025
, it's too bad that there

3072
01:26:43,025 --> 01:26:43,912
was such a

3073
01:26:43,912 --> 01:26:45,316
misunderstanding, uh... and

3074
01:26:45,316 --> 01:26:46,794
uh, I think if it had

3075
01:26:46,794 --> 01:26:48,273
been in a speed zone

3076
01:26:48,273 --> 01:26:49,344
or some other

3077
01:26:49,344 --> 01:26:50,601
area, I think

3078
01:26:50,601 --> 01:26:51,635
we would have a different

3079
01:26:51,635 --> 01:26:53,077
conversation, honestly

3080
01:26:53,077 --> 01:26:58,215
. Um, you're in a

3081
01:26:58,215 --> 01:26:59,509
flood zone, and um, and there's nothing

3082
01:26:59,509 --> 01:27:00,726
there,

3083
01:27:00,726 --> 01:27:05,001
so I...I'm fine.

3084
01:27:05,001 --> 01:27:06,148
Can anyone make

3085
01:27:06,148 --> 01:27:07,627
a suggestion?

3086
01:27:07,627 --> 01:27:08,470
Yes, I'll make

3087
01:27:08,470 --> 01:27:09,619
a suggestion about

3088
01:27:09,619 --> 01:27:13,092
minus two, Jen?

3089
01:27:13,092 --> 01:27:14,340
Um, I don't know if it's

3090
01:27:14,340 --> 01:27:15,588
two or three in this

3091
01:27:15,588 --> 01:27:17,413
case. Two, two. We are in

3092
01:27:17,413 --> 01:27:18,234
...We are in...We are on a

3093
01:27:18,234 --> 01:27:20,816
barrier beach. Um,

3094
01:27:20,816 --> 01:27:22,231
but just to add

3095
01:27:22,231 --> 01:27:23,398
to what

3096
01:27:23,398 --> 01:27:24,530
Frank said about...um, you'll

3097
01:27:24,530 --> 01:27:25,910
probably want to go above

3098
01:27:25,910 --> 01:27:27,290
, and then I would talk

3099
01:27:27,290 --> 01:27:28,670
to either your engineer

3100
01:27:28,670 --> 01:27:30,014
or the board of

3101
01:27:30,014 --> 01:27:31,288
health, as far as

3102
01:27:31,288 --> 01:27:32,596
you know, any

3103
01:27:32,596 --> 01:27:33,622
interaction with...um

3104
01:27:33,622 --> 01:27:36,302
septic system.

3105
01:27:36,302 --> 01:27:37,644
Ahem.

3106
01:27:37,644 --> 01:27:39,150
Just, uh, you know, in

3107
01:27:39,150 --> 01:27:40,430
case something

3108
01:27:40,430 --> 01:27:41,259
happens and

3109
01:27:41,259 --> 01:27:42,276
needs to be

3110
01:27:42,276 --> 01:27:43,594
rebuilt, uh,

3111
01:27:43,594 --> 01:27:45,025
damaged, I would, uh,

3112
01:27:45,025 --> 01:27:46,494
check with them as well

3113
01:27:46,494 --> 01:27:47,963
to make sure that

3114
01:27:47,963 --> 01:27:48,980
, uh, access isn't

3115
01:27:48,980 --> 01:27:50,109
blocked by this

3116
01:27:50,109 --> 01:27:52,467
construction here.

3117
01:27:52,467 --> 01:27:54,063
Oh, yes. We would definitely

3118
01:27:54,063 --> 01:27:55,410
do that, and, uh, we

3119
01:27:55,410 --> 01:27:56,758
actually have...We have a

3120
01:27:56,758 --> 01:27:57,959
great

3121
01:27:57,959 --> 01:27:59,438
service company. Uh,

3122
01:27:59,438 --> 01:28:00,971
they were there recently.

3123
01:28:00,971 --> 01:28:02,518
Some maintenance guys

3124
01:28:02,545 --> 01:28:03,414
sent

3125
01:28:03,414 --> 01:28:04,336
one guy every time and

3126
01:28:04,336 --> 01:28:05,422
they said everything was in

3127
01:28:05,422 --> 01:28:06,481
great condition and I

3128
01:28:06,481 --> 01:28:07,187
think they

3129
01:28:07,187 --> 01:28:08,110
should last

3130
01:28:08,110 --> 01:28:09,141
about 20 years so

3131
01:28:09,141 --> 01:28:09,323
...

3132
01:28:09,323 --> 01:28:09,907
Okay.

3133
01:28:09,907 --> 01:28:11,313
But yes, we would definitely

3134
01:28:11,313 --> 01:28:12,796
do that. And again

3135
01:28:12,796 --> 01:28:14,213
, we're sorry that we're in

3136
01:28:14,213 --> 01:28:15,666
front of you...We would like to

3137
01:28:15,666 --> 01:28:16,829
, uh, we would like to

3138
01:28:16,829 --> 01:28:18,028
know that we should have

3139
01:28:18,028 --> 01:28:19,445
gone a little further,

3140
01:28:19,445 --> 01:28:21,708
uh, Bob Vogel.

3141
01:28:21,708 --> 01:28:24,077
Good. Well, they have their own

3142
01:28:24,077 --> 01:28:25,306
requirements, and we have

3143
01:28:25,306 --> 01:28:26,889
some too, so...

3144
01:28:26,889 --> 01:28:27,382
Hmm.

3145
01:28:27,382 --> 01:28:30,490
Good. Thank you. You see,

3146
01:28:30,490 --> 01:28:31,627
I think we...Do

3147
01:28:31,627 --> 01:28:32,790
we vote? Are we

3148
01:28:32,790 --> 01:28:33,436
ready?

3149
01:28:33,436 --> 01:28:33,851
No.

3150
01:28:33,851 --> 01:28:35,569
Okay, continue.

3151
01:28:35,569 --> 01:28:36,673
We don't even have a

3152
01:28:36,673 --> 01:28:37,362
second.

3153
01:28:37,362 --> 01:28:38,670
I support this for...

3154
01:28:38,670 --> 01:28:39,315
Brendan.

3155
01:28:39,315 --> 01:28:40,800
then all in

3156
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:44,108
, Erica?

3157
01:28:44,108 --> 01:28:44,999
Yes.

3158
01:28:44,999 --> 01:28:46,447
And Robbie?

3159
01:28:46,447 --> 01:28:47,064
Yes.

3160
01:28:47,064 --> 01:28:49,316
And Frank, yes. Good.

3161
01:28:49,316 --> 01:28:51,627
Perfectly. Thank you very much.

3162
01:28:51,627 --> 01:28:53,417
Okay, thank you very much, everyone

3163
01:28:53,417 --> 01:28:54,948
. And, uh, thank you, Josh

3164
01:28:54,948 --> 01:28:56,292
and Jen,

3165
01:28:56,292 --> 01:28:56,841
thank you very, very much.

3166
01:28:56,841 --> 01:28:57,953
Good evening.

3167
01:28:57,953 --> 01:28:59,687
Good night. See you later.

3168
01:28:59,687 --> 01:29:02,459
Emm.

3169
01:29:02,459 --> 01:29:03,679
So, on other

3170
01:29:03,679 --> 01:29:05,226
matters, we have the terms of

3171
01:29:05,226 --> 01:29:06,691
the order, Jen, 107

3172
01:29:06,691 --> 01:29:08,410
Glades.

3173
01:29:08,410 --> 01:29:09,469
Uh, yes, it was an

3174
01:29:09,469 --> 01:29:10,163
enhanced

3175
01:29:10,163 --> 01:29:11,869
reconstruction.

3176
01:29:11,869 --> 01:29:12,876
Good.

3177
01:29:12,876 --> 01:29:14,039
I propose to accept

3178
01:29:14,039 --> 01:29:14,951
these orders in

3179
01:29:14,951 --> 01:29:17,827
writing.

3180
01:29:17,827 --> 01:29:19,564
The second one is from Mark.

3181
01:29:19,564 --> 01:29:21,418
Sorry, that was Eric.

3182
01:29:21,418 --> 01:29:24,727
I'll pass this on to Eric. I

3183
01:29:24,727 --> 01:29:25,707
will entertain

3184
01:29:25,707 --> 01:29:27,007
Brendan.

3185
01:29:27,007 --> 01:29:27,999
Yes.

3186
01:29:27,999 --> 01:29:29,348
And Robbie.

3187
01:29:29,348 --> 01:29:29,854
Yes.

3188
01:29:29,854 --> 01:29:32,207
And Frank, yes. Thank you.

3189
01:29:32,207 --> 01:29:34,892
Good. Any, uh.

3190
01:29:34,892 --> 01:29:36,144
Then we have a request to

3191
01:29:36,144 --> 01:29:37,396
extend the

3192
01:29:37,396 --> 01:29:38,483
order at

3193
01:29:38,483 --> 01:29:39,605
70 Glades.

3194
01:29:39,605 --> 01:29:40,687
Yes, this is an elevated

3195
01:29:40,687 --> 01:29:41,871
reconstruction that they are

3196
01:29:41,871 --> 01:29:43,223
currently working on.

3197
01:29:43,223 --> 01:29:44,108
They started

3198
01:29:44,108 --> 01:29:44,931
work a few

3199
01:29:44,931 --> 01:29:47,958
months ago. Emm.

3200
01:29:47,958 --> 01:29:48,864
So, yes, they

3201
01:29:48,864 --> 01:29:50,074
are asking to continue

3202
01:29:50,074 --> 01:29:51,481
their orders.

3203
01:29:51,481 --> 01:29:53,419
For how long, Jen?

3204
01:29:53,419 --> 01:29:54,652
Uh, they asked for 3

3205
01:29:54,652 --> 01:29:55,998
years, so if you don't

3206
01:29:55,998 --> 01:29:57,631
mind, that's it. their

3207
01:29:57,631 --> 01:29:59,058
first sequel.

3208
01:29:59,058 --> 01:29:59,659
Good.

3209
01:29:59,659 --> 01:30:01,051
Okay, then I'll make

3210
01:30:01,051 --> 01:30:02,544
a suggestion, Frank.

3211
01:30:02,544 --> 01:30:02,943
Yes.

3212
01:30:02,943 --> 01:30:05,448
To grant the house at

3213
01:30:05,484 --> 01:30:06,916
70 Glades Road a 3-year extension

3214
01:30:06,916 --> 01:30:08,475
under their order.

3215
01:30:08,475 --> 01:30:09,865
Okay, this is a suggestion

3216
01:30:09,865 --> 01:30:10,958
from Penny.

3217
01:30:10,958 --> 01:30:12,363
The second suggestion is from

3218
01:30:12,363 --> 01:30:13,519
Eric.

3219
01:30:13,519 --> 01:30:15,348
All in, Brendan?

3220
01:30:15,348 --> 01:30:16,140
Yes.

3221
01:30:16,140 --> 01:30:17,147
Robbie?

3222
01:30:17,147 --> 01:30:18,144
Yes.

3223
01:30:18,144 --> 01:30:19,628
Frank, yes.

3224
01:30:19,628 --> 01:30:21,519
Good. Penny, do you want to

3225
01:30:21,519 --> 01:30:21,738
...

3226
01:30:21,738 --> 01:30:22,986
Let's go over

3227
01:30:22,986 --> 01:30:23,836
the protocol.

3228
01:30:23,836 --> 01:30:24,393
Good.

3229
01:30:24,393 --> 01:30:25,233
proposal, we

3230
01:30:25,233 --> 01:30:27,631
accept the minutes as

3231
01:30:27,663 --> 01:30:28,784
they were written on

3232
01:30:28,784 --> 01:30:29,289
August 31.

3233
01:30:29,289 --> 01:30:30,383
Is this an offer from

3234
01:30:30,383 --> 01:30:31,146
Penny, a second

3235
01:30:31,146 --> 01:30:34,055
offer? Robbie, you

3236
01:30:34,055 --> 01:30:35,141
can even add a

3237
01:30:35,141 --> 01:30:36,110
second sentence

3238
01:30:36,110 --> 01:30:36,798
if you want.

3239
01:30:36,798 --> 01:30:37,841
I will support.

3240
01:30:37,841 --> 01:30:38,537
Thank you.

3241
01:30:38,537 --> 01:30:40,485
Robbie. I

3242
01:30:40,485 --> 01:30:41,648
will publish this. I'll

3243
01:30:41,648 --> 01:30:44,701
speak up, you know.

3244
01:30:44,701 --> 01:30:45,158
Be

3245
01:30:45,158 --> 01:30:47,447
careful. Brendan?

3246
01:30:47,447 --> 01:30:47,974
Yes.

3247
01:30:47,974 --> 01:30:48,559
Eric?

3248
01:30:48,559 --> 01:30:50,312
I'm holding back. I

3249
01:30:50,312 --> 01:30:50,897
wasn't there.

3250
01:30:50,897 --> 01:30:53,687
Good. Frank, yes.

3251
01:30:53,687 --> 01:30:55,236
Um, and then Penny, do you

3252
01:30:55,236 --> 01:30:56,807
want to...

3253
01:30:56,807 --> 01:30:58,897
Yes. I just have to

3254
01:30:58,897 --> 01:31:01,496
formalize it. I know

3255
01:31:01,496 --> 01:31:02,699
some of you have already

3256
01:31:02,699 --> 01:31:03,593
been to Katie's and

3257
01:31:03,593 --> 01:31:04,968
signed the CRI, but I

3258
01:31:04,968 --> 01:31:06,137
need to hold an

3259
01:31:06,137 --> 01:31:07,478
official vote

3260
01:31:07,478 --> 01:31:08,509
that we were unable to

3261
01:31:08,509 --> 01:31:09,644
do at our

3262
01:31:09,644 --> 01:31:13,081
workshop. So, I would like to

3263
01:31:13,081 --> 01:31:14,440
make a motion

3264
01:31:14,440 --> 01:31:16,716
that the Conservation Commission

3265
01:31:16,750 --> 01:31:24,138
adopt

3266
01:31:24,138 --> 01:31:25,331
the super-restriction on

3267
01:31:25,331 --> 01:31:26,525
conservation that

3268
01:31:26,525 --> 01:31:27,781
has been approved by the state,

3269
01:31:27,781 --> 01:31:29,037
and we just need to

3270
01:31:29,037 --> 01:31:30,042
get the signatures of the

3271
01:31:30,042 --> 01:31:31,016
Board of Selectmen and

3272
01:31:31,016 --> 01:31:31,770
the rest of the members of the

3273
01:31:31,770 --> 01:31:32,869
Conservation Committee

3274
01:31:32,869 --> 01:31:38,040
. It was a

3275
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:39,018
proposal.

3276
01:31:39,018 --> 01:31:40,040
Yes, this is an important

3277
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:40,908
proposal.

3278
01:31:40,908 --> 01:31:43,111
I will support Eric.

3279
01:31:43,111 --> 01:31:45,209
I support Eric. All in

3280
01:31:45,209 --> 01:31:47,623
favor. Brendan?

3281
01:31:47,623 --> 01:31:48,479
Yes.

3282
01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:49,588
Robbie?

3283
01:31:49,588 --> 01:31:50,547
Yes.

3284
01:31:50,547 --> 01:31:52,317
And Frank, yes. And Penny,

3285
01:31:52,317 --> 01:31:54,837
thank you very much. It was a

3286
01:31:54,837 --> 01:31:57,225
long saga. Hmm, this is a

3287
01:31:57,225 --> 01:31:58,346
vital

3288
01:31:58,346 --> 01:31:59,434
part. We kind of

3289
01:31:59,434 --> 01:32:00,624
explained this last

3290
01:32:00,624 --> 01:32:01,692
night, but I appreciate

3291
01:32:01,692 --> 01:32:02,866
your diligence.

3292
01:32:02,866 --> 01:32:03,714
Also, when you

3293
01:32:03,714 --> 01:32:04,758
talk to

3294
01:32:04,758 --> 01:32:05,965
Wildlands, tell them

3295
01:32:05,965 --> 01:32:06,910
we appreciate their

3296
01:32:06,910 --> 01:32:07,761
hard work.

3297
01:32:07,761 --> 01:32:09,266
Oh, yes. I always

3298
01:32:09,266 --> 01:32:10,909
do this. But Frank and

3299
01:32:10,909 --> 01:32:12,075
Brendan, can

3300
01:32:12,075 --> 01:32:13,145
you take your

3301
01:32:13,145 --> 01:32:14,312
little sons

3302
01:32:14,312 --> 01:32:15,284
to Katie's office and

3303
01:32:15,284 --> 01:32:16,788
sign?

3304
01:32:16,788 --> 01:32:18,155
Send by mail.

3305
01:32:18,155 --> 01:32:19,515
This needs to be

3306
01:32:19,548 --> 01:32:20,744
notarized, Don.

3307
01:32:20,744 --> 01:32:21,367
OK?

3308
01:32:21,367 --> 01:32:22,585
Tomorrow, Penny. I'm

3309
01:32:22,585 --> 01:32:24,373
going to town hall tomorrow

3310
01:32:24,373 --> 01:32:24,932
.

3311
01:32:24,932 --> 01:32:26,886
Thank you very much. I really appreciate it

3312
01:32:26,886 --> 01:32:27,953
. And then I'll just

3313
01:32:27,953 --> 01:32:29,059
catch Roger as soon as

3314
01:32:29,059 --> 01:32:29,674
he

3315
01:32:29,674 --> 01:32:31,542
gets back. city.

3316
01:32:31,542 --> 01:32:32,579
Thank you.

3317
01:32:32,579 --> 01:32:34,198
Of course, he will be

3318
01:32:34,198 --> 01:32:36,910
right. Well,

3319
01:32:36,910 --> 01:32:38,030
we'll keep an

3320
01:32:38,030 --> 01:32:40,315
eye out. I am OK.

3321
01:32:40,315 --> 01:32:41,777
Thank you, Penny.

3322
01:32:41,777 --> 01:32:42,992
Good. Uh,

3323
01:32:42,992 --> 01:32:45,382
what else? What else do we have?

3324
01:32:45,382 --> 01:32:46,710
You. Did you want to

3325
01:32:46,710 --> 01:32:47,617
No, I just really

3326
01:32:47,617 --> 01:32:48,555
wanted to thank

3327
01:32:48,555 --> 01:32:50,371
you all for being here

3328
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:51,474
last night. I

3329
01:32:51,474 --> 01:32:52,553
think we had a

3330
01:32:52,553 --> 01:32:54,871
good seminar where

3331
01:32:54,903 --> 01:32:56,169
many things were discussed. I was

3332
01:32:56,169 --> 01:32:57,706
happy to see the people from

3333
01:32:57,706 --> 01:32:59,544
Trails Group. I'll try to

3334
01:32:59,544 --> 01:33:00,890
contact them, uh,

3335
01:33:00,890 --> 01:33:02,033
with a few things

3336
01:33:02,033 --> 01:33:02,841
that would be

3337
01:33:02,841 --> 01:33:03,917
helpful to them, and Jen has

3338
01:33:03,917 --> 01:33:04,927
made some

3339
01:33:04,927 --> 01:33:06,272
progress with Modica and

3340
01:33:06,272 --> 01:33:07,349
Lincoln, and he's

3341
01:33:07,349 --> 01:33:08,560
been weeding and

3342
01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:10,074
stuff, and getting

3343
01:33:10,174 --> 01:33:11,297
Porter Street sorted out.

3344
01:33:11,297 --> 01:33:12,450
I mean

3345
01:33:12,450 --> 01:33:13,893
Porter Street. Yes, sorry.

3346
01:33:13,893 --> 01:33:14,647
We won't touch

3347
01:33:14,647 --> 01:33:15,599
Modica and Lincoln.

3348
01:33:15,599 --> 01:33:17,436
No, no, no, no. We are

3349
01:33:17,436 --> 01:33:18,663
perfect there. You all

3350
01:33:18,663 --> 01:33:19,595
need to

3351
01:33:19,595 --> 01:33:20,777
go there right now and

3352
01:33:20,777 --> 01:33:22,067
see the garden.

3353
01:33:22,067 --> 01:33:23,654
He is wonderful.

3354
01:33:23,654 --> 01:33:25,172
So, uh, but

3355
01:33:25,172 --> 01:33:26,837
thanks again. I thought it

3356
01:33:26,837 --> 01:33:28,272
was a constructive, uh,

3357
01:33:28,272 --> 01:33:29,621
meeting. I'm glad it

3358
01:33:29,621 --> 01:33:30,884
takes extra

3359
01:33:30,884 --> 01:33:32,017
time, but I think

3360
01:33:32,017 --> 01:33:34,863
it's worth it. Uh,

3361
01:33:34,863 --> 01:33:36,177
as for

3362
01:33:36,177 --> 01:33:37,390
Border Street, we're working

3363
01:33:37,390 --> 01:33:38,670
on it and we're going to

3364
01:33:38,670 --> 01:33:40,526
figure it out.

3365
01:33:40,526 --> 01:33:41,381
Make a plan

3366
01:33:41,381 --> 01:33:42,532
to mow the field and

3367
01:33:42,532 --> 01:33:43,552
clean the stone

3368
01:33:43,552 --> 01:33:45,383
wall.

3369
01:33:45,383 --> 01:33:45,987
Good.

3370
01:33:45,987 --> 01:33:47,012
Once you

3371
01:33:47,012 --> 01:33:48,441
clean it, it will be

3372
01:33:48,441 --> 01:33:50,863
easy to care for. But

3373
01:33:50,863 --> 01:33:51,993
this requires

3374
01:33:51,993 --> 01:33:53,424
professionals. This is

3375
01:33:53,424 --> 01:33:54,593
too much for

3376
01:33:54,593 --> 01:33:57,269
anyone. So, can I

3377
01:33:57,269 --> 01:33:58,307
make a motion

3378
01:33:58,307 --> 01:33:59,224
to

3379
01:33:59,224 --> 01:34:00,333
adjourn, Frank?

3380
01:34:00,333 --> 01:34:01,541
Yes, please.

3381
01:34:01,541 --> 01:34:03,020
I am making a suggestion. Does

3382
01:34:03,020 --> 01:34:04,276
anyone else want to

3383
01:34:04,276 --> 01:34:07,223
say something, Jen? Josh?

3384
01:34:07,223 --> 01:34:08,827
Members?

3385
01:34:08,827 --> 01:34:10,850
No. Good. Good.

3386
01:34:10,850 --> 01:34:11,967
I propose

3387
01:34:11,967 --> 01:34:12,926
to postpone the

3388
01:34:12,926 --> 01:34:13,731
meeting.

3389
01:34:13,731 --> 01:34:15,296
Uh, take that, uh,

3390
01:34:15,296 --> 01:34:16,477
second word.

3391
01:34:16,477 --> 01:34:17,578
I will support.

3392
01:34:17,578 --> 01:34:19,674
This is, uh, Eric. All in,

3393
01:34:19,674 --> 01:34:20,588
Brendan?

3394
01:34:20,588 --> 01:34:21,419
Yes.

3395
01:34:21,419 --> 01:34:22,427
Robbie?

3396
01:34:22,427 --> 01:34:22,957
Yes.

3397
01:34:22,957 --> 01:34:24,919
Frank? Yes. Thank you all

3398
01:34:24,919 --> 01:34:25,283
.

3399
01:34:25,283 --> 01:34:28,888
Thank you. Good night.