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All right. I want to order the

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September 22nd, 2026

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um select board meeting. Do we have a

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motion to accept the agenda?

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>> So move second.

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>> Uh so moved by Minister Gilmore,

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seconded by Mr. Goodrich. All in favor?

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>> It's unanimous. The slide board

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encourages an environment of respect

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during meetings and we encourage all

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members to interact in a polite manner

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even when there is a disagreement. We

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value the participation of our community

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and want all participants including

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marginalized and minoritized communities

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to feel welcomed and respected. We urge

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our committee members and all who

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participate to commit to these standards

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to support and respect our community and

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to participate in an orderly and

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peaceful manner. Um, with that, um, do

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we have any walk-ins? So, a walk-in

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would be something that's not currently

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on our agenda. Is anybody here for that?

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I don't see any. And then I'm also going

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to remind folks if you're online.

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If you raise your hand, we will call on

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you. So, if you have any lock on, you

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can just raise your hand. I do not see

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any. So, we are going to move to the

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report of the town administrator. Jim,

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>> good evening. Happy equal to everybody.

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>> We'll start off with weather. Right now,

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we're following a potential nor eastern

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impact in the town Thursday to the

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weekend.

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Still a little early at this point.

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Indications of a high wind with gust 40

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to 50 miles an hour. Waves and rain

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coming at the end of the week over the

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weekend.

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Uh we've been looking at the tides. The

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tide charts for situ saying nine n and a

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half foot ties when I watch the news

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they talk in Boston t

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can't figure out what the difference is

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but we've checked probably n [laughter]

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» 9 foot 9 and a half foot tides we're not

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too worried about flooding if it gets a

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little higher than that we will have

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some minor flooding we are expecting

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black over

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issues going to be with 50 mph wind gap

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and all the leaves on the trees we do

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expect to see some limbs down we do

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expect to see some power outages We're

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going to continue to watch. We'll make

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some additional information as we get

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it. Public safety department to make

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convince new plans to be implemented

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depending upon the final track of the

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storm. Once these are in place, we'll

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put them into operation. One of the

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questions is going to be whether or not

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we install the tide gates at the

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beaches.

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that's a full day job. Once they go in,

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they will not come on until it's

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straight and people still like to access

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the beaches. So, that'll be the decision

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we'll make probably late tomorrow

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afternoon because we'll have to do it on

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Thursday. But I do want to make the

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board know if we do put advantage, we're

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not going to end up taking. Um, so we

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ask people to keep their eye on the

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storm. Keep eye on the weather. Please

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make sure you subscribe. We'll be

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putting an update tomorrow morning out.

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tomorrow afternoon, not on Thursday

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morning. Let people know what you get

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for certainly on the storm track. So if

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you have your generators that have been

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sitting in your garage all summer, get

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them out. Make sure you run them. Check

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the gas. Make sure everything you have

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for your storm preparations are done.

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you have things that might blow around,

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bring them in, climb down. Just get

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ready, uh, prepare for the worst, but

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hope for the best. Unfortunately, I want

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to advise you that due to the inclement

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weather forecast this weekend, the

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fisherman's fest has been postponed

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until the following week. It'll be on

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Sunday, October 4th from noon to 5:00

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Uh, water updates. Uh, we don't do any

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more reservoir updates now till the

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spring. We do want to let people know,

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as I informed the board, that our water

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system exceeded a drinking water

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standard. Maximum contaminant level for

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water disinfection byproduct testimonial

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routine monitoring drinking water

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contaminant on August 19th. Level of

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total trial methane PTHM average at our

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149 first batch was 99 micrograms per

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liter which is parts per billion. The

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level of TTM average sampling on seminal

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front was 86. The standard is 80. Sister

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concentrations are determined by

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averaging their concentrations and all

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samples collected at each sample

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location or for the past 12 months.

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Notifications were started and sent out

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this morning. People have any questions

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or concerns, they can contact your water

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department

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Also, DPW, we're back working on the

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beach. Have to mind it. Residents should

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be careful if they're accessing that

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beach equipment. We're working on

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reventment. That work is scheduled to be

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completed in November. If you're in the

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area of St Cliff tomorrow, Hughes Road

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on Monday, we found that we had a

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problem with one of our drains on Hughes

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Road. We made some temporary repair

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silos on Friday, some temporary repairs.

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closed for portion of the day. So,

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please use uh alternative methods or be

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careful if you're in that area. The work

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is expected to take the most of the day

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will be replaced in the east room.

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Library update. All rectum doors at the

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library have now been upgraded for

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handicap accessibility with electronic

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controls. That's all been done. Tom

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Clark update. I'll let Kathy do that

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next. She does a much better channel

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than I do. Uh the board has received

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multiple calls and emails about why the

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windows haven't been functioning.

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problem due to fault converters. Had a

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set off for repairs. This could take

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several weeks, but we will let you know

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when we hear back them and those

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expected to be made. Remind a special

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time meeting. Monday, October 19th, 7

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o'clock in the gym. Friday, October 9th

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is the deadline to register.

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Central Community Christmas, excuse me,

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must remind people that soon time to

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bundle up. Community Christmas has a

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limited supply of winter coats and gear

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available for families in need from our

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coats for Carolyn Coke coat drive held

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on Carolyn Martin and her generous

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spirit. Central Community Christmas

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provides confidential assistance to

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local families throughout the year,

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including help of a variety of essential

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needs. If your family can use support,

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including winter coats, please visit

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situ community.org

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and click the request help.

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informed the loss of Tower Chimes going

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off late in the evening for no apparent

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reason. Historic Society is aware of the

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issue, is working to address it, and we

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hope to have this addressed before the

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end of this week. We apologize to

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anybody this may be waking up at night

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but we are working on it as best we can.

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Uh finally for tonight because I know we

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have a long meeting. The board of health

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has three upcoming flu clinics. The

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first is this Friday September 25th at

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the COA from 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m.

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Saturday also with the COA from 9 to 1.

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12:00 p.m. that will be at the Citro

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Community Building. Pre-registration is

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required. There's a link available on

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our website or you can call the

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department of Florida Health and make a

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reservation. That's all I'm going to

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give you tonight. Happy to answer any

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>> Thank you, Jim. Do you have any

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>> All right. Um,

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first up, we have Gardner. We are

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discussing in voting the November 3rd,

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2026 state election,

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early voting and in-person hours. And

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we're also talking about an appointment

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of an additional additional election

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poll workers.

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>> Yes, it will be busy, right?

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>> Yes. Good evening everybody.

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>> Thank you. Um so yes, the November 3rd

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um state election is

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mandated the date and the hours. It's

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informality for you to approve the

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hours. Um 7:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. and at

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SituA High School gym at 606 Chief

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Justice Cushing Highway and also the

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early voting um and in-person um

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actually the in-person early voting

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hours. They're kind of mandated best um

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based on population. So we're at 19,000

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just under 20,000. They recommend we do

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it during business hours and two weekend

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hours. Six hours total for the weekend,

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three hours on Saturday or three hours

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on Sunday. And I am asking for 6 hours

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on Saturday. Um 8:00 a.m. to 2 p.m. on

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the 17th of October and on the 24th of

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October. And then during business hours

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the two weeks prior to the election,

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which ends at 11:45 on the 30th of um

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October.

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So, and it's about the additional pole

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workers. That's next, I guess. Um, we

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have workers that come and go. Some

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can't work, some can. So, we always like

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to keep a running list of appointed

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election workers, especially for early

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voting check-in. Those ballots that we

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mail out, they have to be checked in

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when they come back on election day. So,

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basically, my supplemental list are just

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extra workers that haven't been

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appointed on the annual June appointment

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list. Um, that have voiced an interest

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in working the polls, which is great

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because I am a little short for early

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voting ballots this um at the polls. um

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at this election. So those are the

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additional three that I'm requesting

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that you um appoint to

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>> good to see when Steve and B.

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>> Yes. And then Eileen too from the church

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>> they both approached me. I'm like sure.

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>> Okay. So I guess we could Do you want to

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do a motion? We have a suggested motion.

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>> Do you want to do Yes. We have three

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parts of it, right?

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move that the state election be held on

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Tuesday, November 3rd, 2026 at the high

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school gym

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justice highway. Full hours are 7:00

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a.m. to 8:00 p.m. Uh vote in person

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early voting location hours for the

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state election November 3rd, 2026. Early

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voting will take place at Town Hall 600.

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Chief Justice Trisha Highway beginning

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on two Saturdays, October 17th, 2026 and

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October 24th, 2026, 8:00 a.m. to 2:00

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p.m. And during regular weekday business

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hours, October 19th, October 30th,

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Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday, 8:30

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a.m. to 4:45 p.m. and Tuesday, 8:30 a.m.

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to 7:30 p.m. And Friday 8:30 a.m. 11:45

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a.m.

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>> Moved by MGO with second by Dr. All in

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favor.

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>> And I think you have warrants for us to

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sign.

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>> Yes. Okay.

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>> And just just a note if I may

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>> and we need a second.

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>> Oh, sorry.

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We're going to move to appointment the

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following election workers for the town

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of Sigwood's clerk supplemental list

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night and Charlene Richard

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>> moved by Michel by Dr.

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Senko. All in favor? I. And thank you

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for those three. We appreciate their

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>> Oh. Oh, did you?

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>> I did. Well, I was sorry.

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>> The This is actually could be more for

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Jim. You may know as well. So, the early

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voting changes were made by the state

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or any additional funding

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to the state. So, we're taking So, this

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is now I point I love all this. It's

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fabulous. early on. I'm just trying to

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have a separate list for later for

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unfunded mandates by the state. So, I

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just want to

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>> need a bigger piece.

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>> So, um they actually reimburse me for

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postage and I think they do reimburse me

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for staffing and they reimburse me for

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it before the poll hours open from my

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staff um at the election, not to do with

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early voting. So, I'm trying to think

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out loud here. Um,

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I believe they reimbured me for inperson

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early voting staff. We get fully

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reimbured.

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>> I think so. I believe so. If I'm

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thinking I know the postage, yes, for

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mailing it out

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>> and yes, because I did I do postage day

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and they asked me how many people worked

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and what the hours were payroll. Yes.

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So,

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>> I'm double checking everything.

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>> No, that's good. That's the point. And

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about the ballots, the ballots are

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supposed to be um the vote by mail

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absentee ballots is supposed to be

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arriving tomorrow. So, any requests we

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have on file, we're going to get those

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out ASAP. Um, please return. I'm asking

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people, please don't wait till the

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November 3rd to return your ballot. It's

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a lot of processing and filing that goes

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along with the whole process. They're

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secured every night. We keep them locked

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down. It's all good. So, I thank

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everybody. I appreciate everything you

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guys do. And now I have three new

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election workers. This is great. So,

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>> thank you. Any other questions?

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>> Thank you. You work very, very hard.

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There's my falling butt after that last

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election.

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>> That was a that was a tough one, but

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thank you. Yes. But thank you very much

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for everything. I appreciate it.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Yes. Thank you.

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>> Have a good time.

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>> Sorry about that with the questions. All

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right. Um, next we have um Nick, I see

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you back there.

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We have a recommendation discuss and

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vote recommendation from BOA review

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commission on October 19, 2026 special

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town meeting article relevant the

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amendments to the waterways general by

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remember this is the general bylaw that

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did not pass the last time we took out

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the charter fishing component of it.

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It's everything else. So it's a cleanup.

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So, Nick, do you wanna

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do you want to come up and say did the I

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guess just let us know. Did the bylaw

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review committee have um it looks like

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they're recommending approval. Did you

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have any comments?

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>> My presentation is really short.

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>> Okay, we love short presentation.

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>> It was recommended unanimously for

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approval by a vote of three and a

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>> Okay,

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>> they all love the cleanup.

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>> Okay,

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thank you.

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>> Questions?

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I do not have any questions.

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>> We appreciate your time on it.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Yeah, it seems to be cleaning up

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language.

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>> It's a lot. It's all the clean up.

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>> And the only change that I saw they made

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is that the uh the alternate member can

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vote if there's a somebody missing,

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right? Yeah.

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>> That's the only game. Yeah, we the

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waterways.

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>> I'm sure I'm going to vote in favor of

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this, but I would encourage

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uh for a future time that we do finally

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resolve the language for charter

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fishing, but I know it's not

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>> I I would agree with you. I think it's a

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tough ask from

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>> challenges are challenges. It's a tough

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aspin. We don't want to we don't want to

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hold all these important changes, but I

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just want

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my in there and we still should do

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something because that's a big business

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aspect for the harbor and for the

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restaurants that charter fishing is it's

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thriving business as so we need to

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recommend.

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>> I agree. I agree. I agree.

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Okay. Um let's see. Do we need to have

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you vote them at the end if you want?

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>> Let's just vote. You want you guys What

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do you guys want to do? Vote them at the

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end.

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>> I can't see the motion.

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>> Move to the recommendation of the bylaw

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review commission and support the

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special town meeting article to amend

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various sections of the general bylaw

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relevant to waterways.

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>> Okay. Moved by um Mr. Gilmore, second by

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Dr. Konoseno. All in favor?

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>> I think that's unanimous. Yes.

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>> All right. Next we have a presentation

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um and discussed potential vote on

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Southshore Recycling Cooperative

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um househazardous waste depot project in

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our municipal agreement.

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>> Hello.

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» Thank you.

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» Get one too if you want. So you are the

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executive director of the Southshore

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Recycling Cooperative.

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>> Yes, I'm Claire Galowski. I'm the

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executive director of Southshore

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Recycling Cooperative. We are an 18 town

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uh government organization. Um we've

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been around for 28 years. Um and um see

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Oh, good. You have the um

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>> we do have your

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>> slides up. Fantastic.

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>> And we have it all in our backup. We

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>> Oh. Oh, wonderful. Okay. So I can zip

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right

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version.

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>> Okay. So you

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>> So we are proposing to construct a

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permanent hazardous waste facility uh in

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handover at their transfer station. Um

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currently um well I'll go along it'll

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replace six of the 12 events that we

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currently host. Situit hosts in June

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generally um along with cohasset every

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year. All residents of all SSRC towns

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can go to any of the 12 collections.

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And uh right now we're only open spring

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and fall. This proposal would be to be

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open um summer and winter as well. So it

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would spread out the collections

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throughout the year. We would have one

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additional event per year. So there

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would be a total of 13 events. Um, and

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all SSRC residents would continue to

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have access to all of them. So, tonight

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I'm asking if you would sign an

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intermunicipal agreement. Um, there are

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12 towns that are participating in this.

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They've all sent letters of support to D

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so we could get a grant to construct it.

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They've all, um, thrown in a few

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thousand dollars to in matching funds

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towards the construction of the

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facility. Um, so, uh, we've been working

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on it for four years. Um, and now we're

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at the point of bringing the

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intermunicipal agreement around. Uh, I

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it's based very closely on another one

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that was d that was uh adopted in 2023

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by nine towns up around Lexington that

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have a similar operation. Um, it was uh

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signed, you know, reviewed by nine town

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councils, city councils, um, and adopted

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by nine municipalities. So, I started

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with that. It was it fit very well with

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what we were trying to do and I just

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changed the details to reflect our local

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um situation.

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So, next slide, please. Um the the

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agreement will only be effective if all

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12 towns sign it. Um we have four towns

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so far that have signed it. Um Hansen,

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Rockland, Kingston, and Ducks.

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Um, we need to have it signed um before

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we start reviewing construction bid.

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We're going to be going out to bid, I

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hope, next week. Um, we need to award at

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our October 28th meeting. Um, we have

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been going, this has been going on for

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four years and we're running up against

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deadlines at this point, including the

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grant deadline. We're in a second

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extension on our grant and my

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retirement.

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I'm intending for the name.

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>> Yeah. Well, my intention was to retire

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in January because I thought this thing

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would be all up and running by last

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winter, but you know, as construction

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projects tend to go, we've had a lot of

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delays. So, now we're kind of getting up

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against the um against the wall here, do

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or die. So, um and if the bids come in

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and we don't have enough money to cover

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them, we won't do the project either.

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I'm not going back to any towns for any

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more money. Not certainly not at this

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stage. Not I I understand everybody's

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budgets are are in tough shape and uh

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you know so we are working very hard to

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keep it under budget. Uh the engineer I

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should have had the cost proposals by

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now. These they're still they're

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probably going to be here tomorrow. I

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keep hearing tomorrow. So um but we were

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it was looking good. So um I think we're

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going to we're going to make it on that.

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Um, currently, as I already mentioned,

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we we host 12 events a year. It provides

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for safe disposal of nasty stuff that

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you really do not want going in your pit

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or in your uh groundwater. Um, people

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need to have opportunities to be able to

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do this to to dispose of their nasty

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stuff properly. Um,

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it's also a worker safety issue. As you

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probably know, you had a fire in your

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trash pit just a couple of months ago

540
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,520
from something put in there that

541
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,440
shouldn't have gone in there. So, and

542
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,360
there have been other in instances of

543
00:20:49,360 --> 00:20:52,960
this type of thing, too. Um, what

544
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,559
started this whole thing is four years

545
00:20:54,559 --> 00:20:56,960
ago, we had five collection events

546
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,679
scheduled for the fall. And about three

547
00:20:59,679 --> 00:21:02,559
weeks before our first event, the vendor

548
00:21:02,559 --> 00:21:04,559
notified me that they couldn't staff

549
00:21:04,559 --> 00:21:07,440
them. uh they couldn't get enough C CDL

550
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,000
drivers to work on Saturdays, so they

551
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,640
canceled all our events. So, that was

552
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,559
kind of a major gut punch. Um so, once I

553
00:21:16,559 --> 00:21:19,200
recovered from that, put my put the fire

554
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,080
in my hair out, uh we did manage to uh

555
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,000
scrge together a um a season with five

556
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,679
events, but you know, they were in the

557
00:21:27,679 --> 00:21:30,480
evening, they were on weird days. So, it

558
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,320
really didn't work out well. was a

559
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,880
wakeup call because we are losing

560
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,960
vendors. Back then we had four vendors

561
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,919
on state contract. We are now down to

562
00:21:39,919 --> 00:21:42,720
two. Um and I'm talking to colleagues

563
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,080
around the state. Everybody's having

564
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:48,159
trouble scheduling events. Um there's just more demand for it than

565
00:21:48,159 --> 00:21:50,240
there is capacity. It's a tough

566
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,039
business. Um

567
00:21:53,039 --> 00:21:55,360
there are uh Lexington, as I mentioned,

568
00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:57,520
has a similar model. There's also a

569
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,480
facility up in um Devons. They've both

570
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,320
been operating for many years. Devons

571
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,520
has been about 20 year no 15 years and

572
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,440
Lexington I think has been around for

573
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,520
20. It's called the minute hazardous

574
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,159
waste facility. Um and I have been

575
00:22:12,159 --> 00:22:16,080
consulting with them about this.

576
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:20,960
So um this the facility should provide

577
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,960
some stability. It would make it easier

578
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,200
for vendors to staff our events because

579
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,640
we wouldn't be competing for the spring

580
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,760
and fall dates. Um, we would also have

581
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,760
operational efficiencies because we

582
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,039
would be storing the drums on site until

583
00:22:35,039 --> 00:22:36,559
it's convenient for them to come and

584
00:22:36,559 --> 00:22:38,640
pick them up. We wouldn't ship any

585
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,960
partial drums. We would save them and

586
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,520
fill them up in the next event. So, I

587
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,559
estimate that would result in about 15%

588
00:22:46,559 --> 00:22:49,919
cost savings. Um, it would also provide

589
00:22:49,919 --> 00:22:51,679
year- round access to your residents. I

590
00:22:51,679 --> 00:22:53,280
do get a lot of calls in the summer and

591
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,840
winter, I'm moving, you know, what do I

592
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,080
do? So I have to send them far away for

593
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,039
a lot of money. Um

594
00:23:01,039 --> 00:23:03,679
and it also has the potential for paid

595
00:23:03,679 --> 00:23:06,799
access to unserved populations like

596
00:23:06,799 --> 00:23:09,200
people out of town out of out of the

597
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,679
region. We could charge sir charge to

598
00:23:11,679 --> 00:23:15,520
help offset the costs. Um so I'm not

599
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,039
going to go through this whole history.

600
00:23:17,039 --> 00:23:18,960
Just suffice it to say we've been

601
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,760
working on it for four years. Um and

602
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,799
we've had a lot of delays and but we are

603
00:23:24,799 --> 00:23:27,440
here now. It's looking like it's it's

604
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,480
very much possible happen. Um, next

605
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,400
slide. So, the next things we have to do

606
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,960
are get the 12 municipalities to sign.

607
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,159
As I said, four have already done so.

608
00:23:38,159 --> 00:23:40,720
And as far as you guys are concerned,

609
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,320
um, each town would need to have a

610
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,520
member appointed to a hazardous waste

611
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,760
depot council. they would make decisions

612
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,720
about how costs would be allocated. Um,

613
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,600
scheduling, uh, you know, other details

614
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,320
about the operation of the facility. Um,

615
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,240
which I, you know, I would certainly

616
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,200
provide them with with options to vote

617
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,760
on. So, but they would be ultimately

618
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,200
responsible for determining the fate of

619
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,880
all that stuff. So, excited. Um, now

620
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,559
here's the rub. Uh we have a very low

621
00:24:16,559 --> 00:24:19,279
cost contract right now relatively um

622
00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:21,760
with Clean Harbors which happened after

623
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,120
this proposal started being formulated.

624
00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:27,840
Um they they bid very low on our last

625
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,480
contract because they are local and they

626
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,039
wanted to keep they wanted to be serving

627
00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:34,960
the local towns which they hadn't been

628
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,200
up until now. So we are paying 30% under

629
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,760
the market rate right now. Um we're in

630
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,679
our we'll be in our last extension in

631
00:24:43,679 --> 00:24:47,120
fiscal 28. So we will be paying below

632
00:24:47,120 --> 00:24:50,400
market. Um I don't want to anybody in

633
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,559
any of the towns to count on that rate

634
00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:55,440
being extended beyond fiscal 28. So

635
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,000
everybody needs to be ready for you know

636
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,039
probably a 45 50% cost increase with or

637
00:25:01,039 --> 00:25:02,640
without the depot.

638
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:03,520
>> Um

639
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,600
>> and that is the um 2400

640
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,000
>> would go up 60%. Is that the number that

641
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:10,880
you're quoting?

642
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,400
>> No. So, what this is about the So, the

643
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,279
depot I I was expecting that the

644
00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:19,279
additional cost for having a permanent

645
00:25:19,279 --> 00:25:21,520
facility would be offset by paying by

646
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,600
the drum and having lower operating

647
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,679
costs. Unfortunately, since we're

648
00:25:25,679 --> 00:25:27,840
already paying so such a low rate, Clean

649
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,600
Harbors wouldn't negotiate anything any

650
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,080
lower for the depot for the low for the

651
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,360
short term. So, for the short term, uh,

652
00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:37,919
we will be looking at an average of

653
00:25:37,919 --> 00:25:41,440
$2,400 per town, per participating town

654
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,760
in additional costs, which, you know, in

655
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,080
the grand scheme of things, I know

656
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,000
everybody's budget is bust, but, you

657
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,279
know, it's if it prevents one accident

658
00:25:51,279 --> 00:25:52,960
from happening, there's your savings

659
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,400
right there. Um, so I am recommending

660
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,559
that people swallow that. Um I know that

661
00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:04,640
Kevin my he used to be our chairman is a

662
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,080
little hesitant about that but um but

663
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,159
you there is funding available through

664
00:26:10,159 --> 00:26:12,799
recycling dividends program and I also

665
00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:16,720
have a proposal to to um have a small

666
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,840
resident co-ayment that would offset all

667
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,039
the additional costs um if the council

668
00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:25,600
voted to do that. The co-ayment I'm

669
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,159
proposing would be similar to Brain

670
00:26:28,159 --> 00:26:29,679
Trees. they've been doing a co-ayment

671
00:26:29,679 --> 00:26:33,440
for many years. Um $10 to $30 depending

672
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,480
on how much people bring. So that could

673
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,120
offset the costs if if towns were really

674
00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:44,720
in a bind. Um but after fiscal 28 when

675
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,880
um assuming that we don't get another

676
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,039
low bid from Clean Harbors which I

677
00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:50,960
wouldn't I definitely would not assume

678
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,840
that um because it was based on one one

679
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,600
person in the organization as far as I

680
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,320
can tell who really wanted to uh to get

681
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,279
us in there. Um

682
00:27:01,279 --> 00:27:03,840
I uh

683
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,559
the in fiscal 29 the the costs will be

684
00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:09,120
much more on par with what they would be

685
00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:11,360
if you continued with the popup events

686
00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:13,840
but ei would have more assurance of

687
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,200
getting dates in the future and um

688
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,039
continued service year round. So these

689
00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:26,000
are the numbers um by town um it shows

690
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,559
okay so it's a lot of numbers. So the

691
00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:30,400
first column is household. The second

692
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,559
column is what your fixed cost. So you

693
00:27:32,559 --> 00:27:36,559
have fixed costs which would be in added

694
00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:38,960
to by the depot for insurance,

695
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,039
maintenance and a reserve fund and

696
00:27:41,039 --> 00:27:43,679
things like that. Um, right now the

697
00:27:43,679 --> 00:27:46,159
fixed costs only encompass the setup fee

698
00:27:46,159 --> 00:27:49,440
and the trash receptacles, trash and

699
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,039
roll the rolloffs, the you know boxes

700
00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:55,279
and the extra and the you know

701
00:27:55,279 --> 00:27:57,919
containers that they have to dispose of.

702
00:27:57,919 --> 00:28:02,559
So right now you're paying about$,750

703
00:28:02,559 --> 00:28:06,399
uh if we if the costs if the fixed costs

704
00:28:06,399 --> 00:28:09,279
are allocated even uh so that each town

705
00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:13,279
pays what they had been paying plus the

706
00:28:13,279 --> 00:28:14,880
same amount of money. Does that make

707
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,279
sense to you? So the cost increase would

708
00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:18,799
be the same across the board. That's one

709
00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:20,320
way of slicing it up. There are there

710
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,600
are a number of different ways I've come

711
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,559
up with, but uh for the purpose of of

712
00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:27,360
showing this um presentation, every town

713
00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:29,760
would pay an additional 2400 over what

714
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,399
they're currently paying. Uh and that

715
00:28:32,399 --> 00:28:34,720
could change based depending on how the

716
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,159
depot the council votes to allocate the

717
00:28:38,159 --> 00:28:42,799
costs. Um the under the variable costs,

718
00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:46,240
um currently we're paying about $55 a

719
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,120
car, which is our low discounted rate.

720
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,120
The state contract currently is about

721
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,279
$86 a car. Um so that shows that if if

722
00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:56,960
you were paying the going rate, you'd be

723
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,760
at over 16,000 a year for just the um

724
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,520
just the variable costs. Um I estimate

725
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,559
based on how many drums we generate that

726
00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:09,200
the um drum the cost if we start

727
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,440
painting by the drum would would be

728
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:16,399
reduced by about 15% to about $71 per

729
00:29:16,399 --> 00:29:18,000
car.

730
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,440
So, um, those are the those are the most

731
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,200
relevant numbers that I wanted to point

732
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,880
out. So, I have more information. I

733
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,200
don't want to take up too much time. So,

734
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,640
if you have any questions, I'm happy.

735
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,679
>> I appreciate the pres.

736
00:29:33,679 --> 00:29:36,399
Thank you. Any

737
00:29:36,399 --> 00:29:38,320
>> just

738
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:39,440
a couple weeks ago, right?

739
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,559
>> Yeah, just the other day.

740
00:29:42,559 --> 00:29:44,320
>> 3.

741
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,320
>> We had 325.

742
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,159
Um they're um you know we we have staff

743
00:29:50,159 --> 00:29:53,120
the SSRC has two staff people that that

744
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:58,720
do these events and they really they really have it down and um you know

745
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,279
they we also need help from the towns

746
00:30:01,279 --> 00:30:03,039
that are hosting it too and we will

747
00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:05,200
continue to need help at the handover

748
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,000
site. Um but it went very well. It was

749
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,880
very busy. 325 cars a lot of them came

750
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,039
from Situit.

751
00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:15,279
um I don't know like I I don't remember

752
00:30:15,279 --> 00:30:19,120
exactly about 30 maybe 35 cars came from

753
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,760
um situ so so our reciprocity um

754
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,159
agreement is very well utilized about

755
00:30:26,159 --> 00:30:29,840
40% of our attendance is people that go

756
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,840
from one town to a different town to um

757
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,919
>> one of my major one of my only questions

758
00:30:35,919 --> 00:30:38,080
I mean I support this I don't know how

759
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,360
many times I've had to go to different

760
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,360
events like this in the past clean up

761
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,520
stuff with my mom my grandma at my house

762
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,279
and we always have hazardous waste that

763
00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:46,640
can't go to the dump unless you're

764
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,720
cheating and want to cheat. So I think

765
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,840
it's a great idea. It's a great project.

766
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,720
My I guess my main question was and you

767
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,720
sort of covered a little bit in in the

768
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,520
risk assessments. Um you talked about a

769
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:00,880
little bit of the question of possible

770
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,120
decommission. What what would happen if

771
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,080
in future this has to be decommissioned

772
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,880
and how some costs like that because

773
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,120
those aren't built into this year

774
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,640
>> that would Yeah. Well, hopefully we

775
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,159
would have a sufficient reserve fund

776
00:31:14,159 --> 00:31:19,360
because I have a reserve fund in the budget that

777
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:20,720
>> I hope this will be a long term, but

778
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,559
just so there is there is a concept of

779
00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:24,640
what could happen if there was a

780
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,480
decommissioning in the future.

781
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,960
>> Yeah. Yes. Yes. [clears throat] I mean,

782
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,559
I don't have it. I don't have it down to any detail, but um

783
00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:34,159
>> my main question was, you know, is there

784
00:31:34,159 --> 00:31:36,880
some cont?

785
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,799
>> Oh, yes. And Handover signed an

786
00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:40,320
intergovernmental agreement with the

787
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,480
SSRC to host it. And you know, they

788
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:43,679
wouldn't have assigned it if it didn't

789
00:31:43,679 --> 00:31:45,840
have a decommissioning clause,

790
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,080
naturally. I mean, it's not a big

791
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,480
facility. It's only um a thousand square

792
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,559
feet um with a canopy and and a fence

793
00:31:54,559 --> 00:31:57,200
around it. So, it's it's not it's not a

794
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,640
huge thing. It'd be a lot of scrap

795
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,399
metal.

796
00:32:00,399 --> 00:32:04,000
Um, and yeah, that would probably be the

797
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,600
main type of thing that would have to be

798
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,159
disassembled or, you know, potentially

799
00:32:10,159 --> 00:32:12,559
sold if it's still in shape.

800
00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:16,240
>> So, I mean, you've been obviously doing

801
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,120
this for years and years and to me it

802
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,960
always comes back to annualize pound

803
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,039
foolish.

804
00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:24,159
>> Exactly.

805
00:32:24,159 --> 00:32:27,440
>> And trying to prevent something.

806
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,120
Um, and as you say, um, you know, making

807
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,399
sure you get some of the stuff out of

808
00:32:32,399 --> 00:32:34,399
there when you need to and having

809
00:32:34,399 --> 00:32:36,559
access. So, through all those years, how

810
00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:38,720
have you seen the usage? I'm assuming

811
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,440
the answer is yes, very softball here,

812
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,039
but the usage has been going up

813
00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:44,399
tremendously.

814
00:32:44,399 --> 00:32:47,120
>> I wouldn't say tremendously. Um, but it

815
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,760
has it has gone up. We're still not I

816
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,919
mean, if if every single person who ever

817
00:32:51,919 --> 00:32:54,000
moved went to a hazardous waste state,

818
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,240
our our towns would all be broke. I

819
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,080
don't honestly know what happens to a

820
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,440
lot of the stuff because we're only

821
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,720
catching we're not catching even half of

822
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:09,840
it in this in this model. But um

823
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,000
you know it's just like roulette you

824
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,399
know the more and the more opportunities

825
00:33:14,399 --> 00:33:16,799
people have to get rid of stuff the less

826
00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:19,600
risk there will be of having catastrophe

827
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,760
like you know a fire at a transfer

828
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,399
station or in a trash truck. I mean

829
00:33:24,399 --> 00:33:25,919
there was many years ago I don't know if

830
00:33:25,919 --> 00:33:28,640
anyone remembers in Norwell um some

831
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,799
incompatible chemical were thrown in the

832
00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:33,279
trash and you guys you you have a

833
00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:34,399
transfer station but a lot of your

834
00:33:34,399 --> 00:33:37,360
residents use c use curbside services

835
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,640
subscription and they they reacted in

836
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,320
the trash truck when it compacted them

837
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,720
and it it created a plume of toxic uh

838
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,840
gas that required the the evacuation of

839
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,320
a threeb block radius sent a few people

840
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,559
to the hospital. So, those are the kind

841
00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:56,960
of things we hope to avoid. And of

842
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,240
course, if your groundwater becomes

843
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,880
contaminated from from having it put

844
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,200
down the drain or down in the ground,

845
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,399
but that's another risk you want to

846
00:34:06,399 --> 00:34:08,639
avoid. So, [clears throat]

847
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:10,000
>> did I answer your question?

848
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:10,560
>> Yes.

849
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,679
>> Good. Sometimes I go off on tangents

850
00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:18,320
>> too often. Did you all have questions?

851
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,399
>> Was that

852
00:34:20,399 --> 00:34:21,040
other question?

853
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,879
>> I just have one comment. This is a

854
00:34:22,879 --> 00:34:24,560
no-brainer.

855
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,040
>> Oh, Rockland Select Board said the same

856
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:27,520
thing.

857
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,399
>> This is a matter of environmental

858
00:34:30,399 --> 00:34:34,639
safety. It appears that by creating this

859
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:36,480
centralized depot, it's even going to

860
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,800
make it easier for people and not have

861
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,320
to figure out where it is, when it is,

862
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,440
and how it is. So, I have no further

863
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,440
question. I commend your effort. Thank

864
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:46,480
you.

865
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:47,359
>> Oh, thank you.

866
00:34:47,359 --> 00:34:50,000
>> And then our cost are the situate lines.

867
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,520
So our costs would be

868
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:54,960
>> those and those are please those are

869
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,359
budget estimates.

870
00:34:57,359 --> 00:34:59,920
>> So I don't hold me to them to to the

871
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:02,960
dollar but yeah it's it's ballpark.

872
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:03,520
>> Okay.

873
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,480
>> And all or nothing like if one or two

874
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,520
towns decide not to go for it you won't

875
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:10,880
go for it?

876
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,440
>> No. I wrote that into the IMA because I

877
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,280
didn't want towns to be afraid that if

878
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,119
they signed and not everybody did that

879
00:35:17,119 --> 00:35:18,960
they would be on the hook for a higher

880
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,760
portion of the fixed costs because

881
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,000
>> you know the costs right now would be

882
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,480
spread out under among 12 towns.

883
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,880
Actually handover the IG um gives them

884
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,119
no fixed costs. That's that's their

885
00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:36,079
benefit. So, uh, it would have to be

886
00:35:36,079 --> 00:35:37,760
spread out among the other 11 towns. And

887
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,400
I just didn't think that going any lower

888
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,040
than that would be feasible,

889
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,880
um,

890
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,720
>> cost for Hanover, does that mean they're

891
00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:49,520
not paying for the building?

892
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,359
>> Well, they No, they kicked in money

893
00:35:51,359 --> 00:35:52,480
towards the building.

894
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:52,960
>> Okay.

895
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,079
>> But, um, but the fixed cost, the annual

896
00:35:56,079 --> 00:35:58,320
fixed costs won't

897
00:35:58,320 --> 00:35:59,920
>> they won't be assessed. They will have

898
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:02,160
to they will also pay a slightly reduced

899
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,839
rate for their residents, but they still

900
00:36:03,839 --> 00:36:09,990
have to pay.

901
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,920
» Are you all comfort? Do you want to vote

902
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,079
or do you want to just have to think

903
00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:15,839
about it and vote the next meeting? I'm

904
00:36:15,839 --> 00:36:17,920
happy to do that too. I know this

905
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,119
>> I mean I could just

906
00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:20,640
>> a quick brief. I know it's

907
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,079
>> I could just say maybe it's not

908
00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:24,160
convenient if you have to go to handover

909
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,119
and we have one day a year constituent

910
00:36:27,119 --> 00:36:27,920
but

911
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,720
>> obviously getting the hazardous waste

912
00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:34,000
where it belongs makes complete sense so

913
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,040
I'm I'm happy

914
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,280
>> I mean it definitely makes sense to me

915
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,119
too

916
00:36:39,119 --> 00:36:42,720
>> so I'm happy to vote for it I don't

917
00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:45,920
>> move to uh participate in and sign the

918
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,839
intermunicipal agreement of the

919
00:36:47,839 --> 00:36:51,839
Southshore recycling cooperative SSRC's

920
00:36:51,839 --> 00:36:54,400
waste ho

921
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,640
at the handover transfer station.

922
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,680
Do we have a second saying by Dr. All in

923
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:06,390
favor? I Okay.

924
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,240
» Thank you. Thank you.

925
00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:12,640
>> Five down, seven to go. I mean, it's been going pretty well. So, thank

926
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,079
you very very much for

927
00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:15,680
>> Good luck with that.

928
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,280
>> Thank you for your time.

929
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,240
>> Oh, you're welcome. in a labor of love

930
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:21,920
and love of sometimes they haven't loved

931
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,480
it yet. [laughter]

932
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:25,920
>> That's just life.

933
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,280
>> Yeah.

934
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,400
>> All right. Take care.

935
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,320
>> Thank you. All right. Next, we have

936
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,000
>> Are we doing CPC?

937
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,440
>> We We are. Next, we are doing CPC

938
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:36,480
articles.

939
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,119
>> Okay. I am going to recuse myself just

940
00:37:39,119 --> 00:37:41,520
for the Appleton Field Community Garden

941
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,800
which was first on our agenda because I

942
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,880
have been on the board prior to being on

943
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,040
the board and it could be some

944
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:51,520
step.

945
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,920
>> How do we do that? Step out already

946
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,240
audience. I don't know how

947
00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:57,119
>> you step out.

948
00:37:57,119 --> 00:37:58,960
>> Step out forever.

949
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,200
>> But can we can you just do it for that?

950
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,560
>> Yeah, I know. I want to be part of

951
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,640
everything. So, if you guys want to

952
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,119
vote, if you guys want to vote on

953
00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:09,520
>> Can you step out? We'll talk and vote on

954
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:10,480
just the one.

955
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:10,880
>> Yeah.

956
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,560
>> And then come back in and then we're

957
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:13,839
good for the rest of the night. How

958
00:38:13,839 --> 00:38:15,280
about that?

959
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,560
>> We'll come and get you.

960
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:17,599
>> All right.

961
00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:19,040
>> Are you guys good at that?

962
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,800
>> Well, I have a couple of slides before

963
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:21,839
we get to that.

964
00:38:21,839 --> 00:38:24,316
>> Oh, shoot.

965
00:38:24,316 --> 00:38:25,280
[laughter]

966
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:25,680
>> Sorry.

967
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,160
>> All right. Okay. Then until once we get

968
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,040
to Apple, we'll do that. We'll go and

969
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,960
then we'll do this. But I again I

970
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,480
appreciate all your time on this. These

971
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,720
are really important projects.

972
00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:38,320
>> Um and thank you.

973
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,160
>> Well, thank you for uh giving us the

974
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,240
opportunity to uh present this to you

975
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:46,240
again uh this year. Uh the uh I'll just

976
00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:47,920
go through a couple of things before we

977
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,839
get into the projects. I'm not going to

978
00:38:49,839 --> 00:38:51,760
go through every number that's on this

979
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,800
slide, but just to point out that we did

980
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:59,359
collect $2.3 million in taxes uh from

981
00:38:59,359 --> 00:39:03,599
the community uh toward the CPC funding.

982
00:39:03,599 --> 00:39:09,359
Uh there should be about uh $370,000

983
00:39:09,359 --> 00:39:12,400
that we'll get from the uh state match.

984
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,640
So that's always uh good money to have

985
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,839
in the uh

986
00:39:17,839 --> 00:39:22,800
in in our budgets uh to spend. Uh

987
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,000
the uh next slide is that's all I don't

988
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,520
know if there are any questions on that

989
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:28,720
on the [clears throat] first slide. I

990
00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:31,119
didn't go through all the numbers but um

991
00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:32,560
I don't think I need to.

992
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,160
>> Yeah, I don't have any questions.

993
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,400
>> Okay. The uh the next slide is really uh

994
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,400
where we're intending what we have in

995
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,760
each of the buckets that CPC has the

996
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,400
historic open space community housing

997
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,520
and undesated funds and uh the money

998
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,800
that we're planning to spend uh to not

999
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,359
spend but to uh recommend to the town

1000
00:39:53,359 --> 00:39:55,680
meeting uh for the projects that we

1001
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,640
have. I would pound out point out the uh

1002
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:03,440
FY27 estimated receipts of $58,000

1003
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,560
is really the amount of money we had uh

1004
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,520
in receipts minus what we did vote what

1005
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,800
the town did vote on uh the April 12th

1006
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,880
town meeting. So that was what was left

1007
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,880
over from that that town meeting and the

1008
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,640
estimated receipts. We also had a uh

1009
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,880
debt service adjustment for the athletic

1010
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,839
field uh borrowing that we did quite a

1011
00:40:25,839 --> 00:40:28,320
few years ago. Uh so that was that

1012
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,960
$15,750.

1013
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,119
And then we have five projects that are

1014
00:40:33,119 --> 00:40:36,800
on uh that we're putting on the warrant

1015
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,280
for uh the for the town meeting which

1016
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,320
I'll go into detail later on. The next

1017
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,240
slide is just uh the only number I'm

1018
00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:45,920
going to talk about in this slide is the

1019
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,520
11.8 8 million that the town has has

1020
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,880
received from the uh distribution fund

1021
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,319
from the state. So I think uh the point

1022
00:40:56,319 --> 00:41:00,640
is I think CPC the CPA act and the um

1023
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,640
adoption of that by situ is a good

1024
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,119
investment for the town.

1025
00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:07,680
Next slide. The projects that we have uh

1026
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,680
we do have five projects. The first one

1027
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,839
I have is the Appleton and I'll go right

1028
00:41:11,839 --> 00:41:16,240
into that. The Apple field project.

1029
00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:18,000
Yeah. Why don't you do the other one

1030
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,000
back?

1031
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:20,720
>> Okay.

1032
00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:22,160
>> Do that last game.

1033
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:30,230
>> Okay. Back then. Okay.

1034
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:33,359
» Stay with me, Frank.

1035
00:41:33,359 --> 00:41:35,440
>> Yeah.

1036
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,119
>> This is This should be quick.

1037
00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:38,880
>> This should be super quick.

1038
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,720
>> Yeah.

1039
00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:42,800
as far as this goes. So,

1040
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,440
>> so the uh as you may be aware, the uh

1041
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,200
Friends of Appleton Field made this

1042
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,000
request of CPC. The garden was created

1043
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:54,240
in uh 2023. It's grown quite a bit. Uh

1044
00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:56,240
we've been there recently. It's grown

1045
00:41:56,240 --> 00:41:58,079
quite a bit since then. I think they've

1046
00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:00,880
done a great job in uh designing and

1047
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,200
implementing the garden there. The uh

1048
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,520
Friends of Appleton Field supports

1049
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,000
community food donations as well as

1050
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,720
educational programs that they conduct

1051
00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:14,160
on site. Uh one of the issues they have

1052
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,720
is there's no town water on the site. So

1053
00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:19,599
they have to uh get water to let the

1054
00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:22,800
plants grow. So what this pro what this

1055
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,599
request was for is for an additional

1056
00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:28,800
shed that will collect rainwater for the

1057
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,160
plants. It's a 10 by 20 foot shed. uh

1058
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,079
has catchment uh to that will uh go into

1059
00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:38,800
uh water catchment barrels uh to collect

1060
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,160
the water. Uh there'll also be storage

1061
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,800
facility for tools and educational

1062
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,119
equipment and the entrance to the shed

1063
00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:50,400
will be ADA compliant. So if somebody uh

1064
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,520
needs to get in there, they can. The uh

1065
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,079
I will point out the CPC is funding only

1066
00:42:56,079 --> 00:42:58,880
the shed materials and the construction.

1067
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,400
We can't cover uh non-permanent

1068
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,880
installation equipment is the way I'd

1069
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,040
say it. So the barrels and things like

1070
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,319
that we cannot fund. Uh we've run into

1071
00:43:10,319 --> 00:43:13,520
this before with uh trash cans where the

1072
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,560
trash cans have to be uh attached to the

1073
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:21,920
ground in order for us to fund those type of things.

1074
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,599
Any questions on that?

1075
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:26,960
>> Are there any questions on this one?

1076
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,440
>> No. Sure.

1077
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:30,880
>> Do you have any questions?

1078
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,520
>> No. As leaison to this committee, they

1079
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,440
they're very rigorous in their review of

1080
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:35,920
this.

1081
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:36,640
>> Yeah.

1082
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,040
>> I think they've got it done.

1083
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:40,640
Self-evident.

1084
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,760
>> Can I get a motion on the Appleton field

1085
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:44,880
only?

1086
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,880
>> Move to approve the Appleton Fields

1087
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,240
Community Garden upgrades $15,200.

1088
00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:51,280
Second.

1089
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,560
>> Moved by Dr. Fono, seconded by Mr.

1090
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,200
Gilmore. All in favor? I

1091
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,760
>> So it passes four.

1092
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:00,720
>> Okay.

1093
00:44:00,720 --> 00:44:01,200
>> Thank you.

1094
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,000
>> One obsession and she can come back in.

1095
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,400
So let's just do the rest.

1096
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,000
>> Yep.

1097
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,000
>> So one thing I did want to point out uh

1098
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,640
that we skipped one slide on was we do

1099
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,040
have two projects that are pending. One

1100
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,400
is the acquisition of uh n almost 90

1101
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,280
acres of a cranberry bog off old oak and

1102
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,599
bucket road. Uh we've been talking to

1103
00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:26,079
the gentleman that is intending to sell

1104
00:44:26,079 --> 00:44:28,800
that to the town for almost a year I

1105
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,880
think and uh there are still some issues

1106
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,800
with that. Uh we've done several

1107
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,920
appraisals. Uh he has some concerns

1108
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,079
about the uh property and what will

1109
00:44:38,079 --> 00:44:39,760
happen to the property if he does sell

1110
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,680
it to the town. There's a million

1111
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,400
gallons of water on the property. We're

1112
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,880
currently investigating whether the town

1113
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,599
is able or willing to use that water.

1114
00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:51,200
And those are some of the discussions

1115
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,240
that we're continuing to have. Uh and in

1116
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:58,800
fact, there's a meeting tomorrow uh that will be on one of the one of the

1117
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,040
topics for the meeting tomorrow. The

1118
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,079
other uh project that was pending was

1119
00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:07,040
the Lawson property gates and that's on

1120
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,400
the agenda on the warrant for uh some

1121
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,720
transfer of ownership of the property.

1122
00:45:12,720 --> 00:45:14,720
Uh so we can't do anything until that

1123
00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:18,560
happens. The uh second project is the G

1124
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,480
Hall exterior restoration which is uh

1125
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,520
requested by the Situate his historical

1126
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,920
society and it's really to fix two areas

1127
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,599
of the hall that are in serious

1128
00:45:31,599 --> 00:45:34,240
disrepair. The first area is the back of

1129
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:38,319
the hall where the uh uh wood has

1130
00:45:38,319 --> 00:45:40,720
rotted. Uh they need to replace two

1131
00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:42,640
windows back there, one on the ground

1132
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,520
floor I believe and one in the attic.

1133
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,880
Excuse me. And uh they also want to

1134
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,319
repair and fix the ADA entrance which is

1135
00:45:52,319 --> 00:45:54,960
apparently in serious disrepair.

1136
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,839
Uh so it's over the project will be

1137
00:45:57,839 --> 00:46:01,040
overseen by the uh situated historical

1138
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,599
society property manager who does have

1139
00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:06,079
experience in restoring historic

1140
00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:08,880
facilities. The total cost is estimated

1141
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,079
to be uh 55,700

1142
00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:15,839
which includes a 15% contingency and the

1143
00:46:15,839 --> 00:46:19,280
historical society is contributing 5,700

1144
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,119
to that and asking CPC to fund 50,000

1145
00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:25,839
for that project.

1146
00:46:25,839 --> 00:46:30,309
Any questions on that?

1147
00:46:30,319 --> 00:46:33,839
» I'm assuming the entire CPT was in favor

1148
00:46:33,839 --> 00:46:35,920
of this.

1149
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:36,640
Pardon me.

1150
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,240
>> The entire CPC was

1151
00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:39,839
>> Oh, yes. I'm sorry. I should have said

1152
00:46:39,839 --> 00:46:42,000
in the beginning, uh, all these projects

1153
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,040
were approved unanimously by CPC. I

1154
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,480
didn't put that on the slides because

1155
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,119
they all were approved unanimously by

1156
00:46:49,119 --> 00:46:52,000
CPC. Sorry.

1157
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,160
>> Okay.

1158
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:55,839
>> Do you move on to vote them individually

1159
00:46:55,839 --> 00:46:56,960
after?

1160
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,680
>> I'm fine with that. I move to approve

1161
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,240
the CPC

1162
00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:05,680
um voting on the

1163
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,599
J hall exterior restoration project

1164
00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:14,309
>> for 50,000

1165
00:47:14,319 --> 00:47:15,040
» second

1166
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,000
>> moved by Mel seconded by Mr. Gilmore.

1167
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,440
All in favor? I

1168
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,280
>> I

1169
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:21,839
in.

1170
00:47:21,839 --> 00:47:24,560
>> Okay. The third project is a is to

1171
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,839
acquire and install a vault in the town

1172
00:47:27,839 --> 00:47:31,680
hall for historic documents. uh the town

1173
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,560
archavists had come to us and uh

1174
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,400
requested uh quite a bit more money than

1175
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,599
we're actually requesting, but after

1176
00:47:41,599 --> 00:47:43,920
going through some iterations,

1177
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,480
uh we were able to uh reduce that down

1178
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,800
to $500,000

1179
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,319
uh dollars, which is what they're

1180
00:47:50,319 --> 00:47:52,640
requesting for the project. And that

1181
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,920
does include a $70,000 contingency. So

1182
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,839
the total vaults that they were getting

1183
00:47:57,839 --> 00:48:00,400
was about 430,000.

1184
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,560
The vaults will be used for the

1185
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,119
preservation of historic documents that

1186
00:48:05,119 --> 00:48:08,240
are stored uh currently in the basement

1187
00:48:08,240 --> 00:48:11,280
of the town hall here. And it includes

1188
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,839
uh some other shelfing besides the vault

1189
00:48:13,839 --> 00:48:17,760
and retrofitting the uh electric and air

1190
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,880
conditioning down there so it it can uh

1191
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,480
provide uh the adequate environment for

1192
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,240
the vault. The vault itself is a 16x 11

1193
00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:31,760
by almost 9 ft high uh precon

1194
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:36,079
pre-fabricated vault that includes um uh

1195
00:48:36,079 --> 00:48:38,559
management of the climate inside the

1196
00:48:38,559 --> 00:48:42,079
vault. uh installing that the basement

1197
00:48:42,079 --> 00:48:44,800
will have to be retrofitted uh for that

1198
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,200
and the other storage and there's some

1199
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:48,960
costs associated with that that they're

1200
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,599
looking for. The town facilities manager

1201
00:48:51,599 --> 00:48:53,760
has agreed to be in charge of the

1202
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,800
installation. And the estimates include

1203
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,559
almost $100,000 for the vault, $100,000

1204
00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:04,160
for other storage, and $235,000 for

1205
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,000
retrofitting the basement, which is the

1206
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,880
biggest cost of the uh including that

1207
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,119
down here. And as I said, includes a

1208
00:49:11,119 --> 00:49:12,880
$70,000

1209
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,240
in continued disease.

1210
00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:16,319
>> I was hoping that was the tone.

1211
00:49:16,319 --> 00:49:17,599
>> Pardon me. missing a

1212
00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:22,640
>> It says It says $70. It says $70 in

1213
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,720
$70,000. Sorry.

1214
00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:27,839
>> I forgot a K. Yes, I did notice. Thank

1215
00:49:27,839 --> 00:49:31,839
you for that. Um and uh she felt it was

1216
00:49:31,839 --> 00:49:34,160
vital in uh being able to preserve some

1217
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,200
of the historic records that uh are in

1218
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:41,599
danger of deteriorating.

1219
00:49:41,599 --> 00:49:42,720
>> So that's

1220
00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:45,440
>> Are there any questions on this? The the

1221
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,200
only question I have and and I don't

1222
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:48,720
think it's terribly relevant in your

1223
00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:52,079
future, but um that the the 96,000 for

1224
00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:53,359
the actual vault itself is

1225
00:49:53,359 --> 00:49:56,400
pre-fabricated. Hypothetically, if if

1226
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,880
town hall were to get reconstructed,

1227
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,880
moved, what have you, this wall be able

1228
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,559
to be moved?

1229
00:50:02,559 --> 00:50:04,640
>> Yes, that's one of the questions we did

1230
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,040
ask in case something does change with

1231
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,359
the town wall. Uh obviously we wouldn't

1232
00:50:09,359 --> 00:50:11,520
be able to recover the installation cost

1233
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,480
and some of the uh other cost associated

1234
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,640
with installation but they should be a

1235
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,280
they will be able to reuse the bulb and

1236
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,119
they should be able to reuse some of the

1237
00:50:21,119 --> 00:50:23,599
other equipment to store some flat maps

1238
00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:26,240
and things like that. That was my main

1239
00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:27,760
question.

1240
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,000
>> Seeing the condition of our basement, I

1241
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,319
think that it is imperative that we have

1242
00:50:32,319 --> 00:50:36,480
a waterproof fireproof vault for um our

1243
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,559
records.

1244
00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:41,280
>> Yeah, I mean I agree to

1245
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:41,760
that

1246
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:46,470
>> just to say that the

1247
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,480
town archives through great amount of

1248
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,960
detail and question more than one

1249
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:51,920
meeting

1250
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,599
>> and I think you guys have come to a

1251
00:50:53,599 --> 00:50:56,400
great appreciated support.

1252
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,440
>> Yeah. And we were able to reduce the

1253
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,839
original from a million to 500,000. So,

1254
00:51:03,839 --> 00:51:04,960
which is a good thing.

1255
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:05,760
>> Yeah.

1256
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,119
>> Move to support the CPC's article for

1257
00:51:09,119 --> 00:51:15,119
the town archives at the October 192

1258
00:51:15,119 --> 00:51:18,000
>> for

1259
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:18,559
500,000.

1260
00:51:18,559 --> 00:51:20,240
>> $500,000

1261
00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:23,839
by second by Dr. All in favor.

1262
00:51:23,839 --> 00:51:27,280
>> I unanimous.

1263
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:28,880
>> Okay. Next,

1264
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,359
>> the uh next project is a GA I'll call it

1265
00:51:31,359 --> 00:51:33,839
the Gates apartment affordable housing

1266
00:51:33,839 --> 00:51:37,599
project. And the Granthm Group is asking

1267
00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:41,440
CPC for $5 million uh commitment. This

1268
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,319
is very similar to the Lawson Green

1269
00:51:44,319 --> 00:51:46,720
project that we did several years ago,

1270
00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:50,079
which CPC funded for $2 million. The

1271
00:51:50,079 --> 00:51:52,160
total budget for the project is

1272
00:51:52,160 --> 00:52:01,760
estimated to be um 30 I think it's 33 million uh total for the entire

1273
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,240
project. They're looking for approval

1274
00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:08,960
from the town and CPC for $5 million

1275
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,240
in order to be able to to get grants as

1276
00:52:12,240 --> 00:52:15,040
the project goes on and in order to uh

1277
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,280
show the commitment that the town has to

1278
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,839
the project as they start trying to get

1279
00:52:19,839 --> 00:52:23,280
other funds to support this project. The

1280
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:30,240
uh the project will include uh demolition of the existing central

1281
00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:32,960
building only the central building and

1282
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,119
reconstruction of a new building. If you

1283
00:52:35,119 --> 00:52:37,839
look at the pictures that will have uh a

1284
00:52:37,839 --> 00:52:40,800
similar look than the existing building

1285
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,839
I will mention the map that's on this

1286
00:52:43,839 --> 00:52:46,559
diagram that was provided is

1287
00:52:46,559 --> 00:52:50,000
preliminary. It's not a finalized map of

1288
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,640
where what will be located where. Uh the

1289
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,640
intention is to just replace that

1290
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,520
central building at the former junior

1291
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,000
high school. Um there will have to be

1292
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,160
some reconfiguration

1293
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,119
of the fields in the back and probably

1294
00:53:05,119 --> 00:53:07,839
parking as well and that has not been

1295
00:53:07,839 --> 00:53:11,359
finalized yet. Uh all the units in the

1296
00:53:11,359 --> 00:53:15,440
uh building will be uh for elderly

1297
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:19,520
housing. Uh it's estimated uh I'm sorry

1298
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,440
all the units will be included in the

1299
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,240
subsidized housing inventory for the

1300
00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:27,839
town for 40B purposes and the estimate

1301
00:53:27,839 --> 00:53:31,280
is this will bring situate close to 7%

1302
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,400
of affordable housing. It also one of

1303
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,280
the reasons why we uh wanted to approve

1304
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,839
this now rather than wait on this

1305
00:53:39,839 --> 00:53:42,240
project and and the funding for this

1306
00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:45,040
project was it will give situate a safe

1307
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,040
harbor which would allow the town to

1308
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,400
refuse any new 40B applications.

1309
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:51,280
So that was

1310
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:56,480
>> that only began when this project is

1311
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,200
>> once so if we vote yes on this

1312
00:53:59,200 --> 00:53:59,599
>> yes

1313
00:53:59,599 --> 00:54:02,000
>> we have a safe harbor for a year. No,

1314
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,520
let's say not immediately

1315
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,920
>> back till the project is approved.

1316
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:10,319
>> So when will the project be approved?

1317
00:54:10,319 --> 00:54:12,480
>> Probably at least a year

1318
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,640
>> finishing traffic studies permitting and

1319
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:15,359
all that.

1320
00:54:15,359 --> 00:54:16,720
>> 6 months to a year.

1321
00:54:16,720 --> 00:54:17,440
>> Okay.

1322
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:21,190
>> Mhm.

1323
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,880
» Okay. The uh it's a 64,000 square ft

1324
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,079
facility. Uh there will be 63 apartments

1325
00:54:28,079 --> 00:54:30,000
in the facility that are one-bedroom

1326
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,319
apartments. It will also include a

1327
00:54:32,319 --> 00:54:34,720
visiting nurse office, a community room,

1328
00:54:34,720 --> 00:54:37,599
and a central living room for the uh for

1329
00:54:37,599 --> 00:54:40,960
the uh tenants there. Uh they will keep

1330
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,599
the recreation wing, the gym, and and

1331
00:54:43,599 --> 00:54:45,440
the other buildings around that central

1332
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,319
building, so they won't be uh affected

1333
00:54:48,319 --> 00:54:51,040
at all. And again, the uh total project

1334
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:55,920
cost was uh $33 million. the uh because

1335
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,720
we don't have the $5 million in our

1336
00:54:58,720 --> 00:55:01,520
current funds. The intention is to uh

1337
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,640
fund 587,000

1338
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,960
from the community housing reserve that

1339
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:11,200
we do have and then uh 413,000

1340
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,760
from the estimated receipts that we do

1341
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,880
have today, but then borrow $4 million

1342
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,559
to complete the $5 million.

1343
00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:24,640
And that's uh any questions on that?

1344
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:29,109
We've heard this

1345
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:29,760
question.

1346
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,800
>> I'm I'm completely in favor of of a

1347
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,880
project. I'm I'm very much in favor of funding the five million so that we

1348
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,880
can be ahead of this. We're going to

1349
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,880
fund this whether we do it one way or

1350
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,800
another way and we do it this year or

1351
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,960
next year. It's it's it's a project that

1352
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,079
needs to happen. I'm I'm still not

1353
00:55:48,079 --> 00:55:49,200
convinced that we're actually on the

1354
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:50,880
right track with the final outlook of

1355
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,400
the whole campus project. So, so I sort

1356
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,359
of have a question there and my

1357
00:55:57,359 --> 00:55:59,760
understanding Jim is that we still have

1358
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,400
time to debate the projects and results.

1359
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,480
>> The project has the design.

1360
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:04,880
>> Yes.

1361
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,440
>> So, so, so that's sort of a separate

1362
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,839
question. I'm in support of of being out

1363
00:56:09,839 --> 00:56:11,040
in front of this. I guess the only

1364
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:12,960
question I would have and maybe Anthony

1365
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:14,400
might be able to get some perspective on

1366
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,599
this is is we're going to be taking some

1367
00:56:17,599 --> 00:56:19,440
$4 million of this in borrowing. That

1368
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,000
borrowing is happening now. essentially

1369
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:23,920
that's happening ahead of time. So,

1370
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,400
we're going to be essentially paying a

1371
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:27,680
small amount of interest on that

1372
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,599
borrowing before the project even is

1373
00:56:29,599 --> 00:56:30,640
underway.

1374
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:30,960
>> Right.

1375
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,000
There is a um an available funds

1376
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,440
component to it that they would use

1377
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,160
first before we have to borrow funds.

1378
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,480
>> So, so I'm hoping that we're closer to

1379
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,079
breaking ground before we're paying

1380
00:56:42,079 --> 00:56:43,280
interest on something that hasn't

1381
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,119
happened. But other than that, we're

1382
00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:47,280
gonna spend this now. And I think if we

1383
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,359
don't keep pushing forward, projects

1384
00:56:49,359 --> 00:56:50,960
going to keep getting more expensive.

1385
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,119
Yeah, I mean I agree. They're they're

1386
00:56:53,119 --> 00:56:54,960
kind of merry

1387
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,559
and demolition and also we have to show

1388
00:56:58,559 --> 00:57:01,520
good faith to get any sort of any

1389
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,839
>> which I do think we're we are in good

1390
00:57:03,839 --> 00:57:07,280
running for [clears throat] did I maybe

1391
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,160
I saw somewhere paperwork back and forth

1392
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,680
that affordable housing just 600,000

1393
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,119
this I see

1394
00:57:15,119 --> 00:57:18,134
>> um I don't remember that frankly

1395
00:57:18,134 --> 00:57:18,319
[clears throat]

1396
00:57:18,319 --> 00:57:20,319
>> we can check on that

1397
00:57:20,319 --> 00:57:24,799
>> I think it's added. I think the uh the

1398
00:57:24,799 --> 00:57:28,480
urgency to get the town's commitment to

1399
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,040
this project is what will cause the

1400
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,119
state

1401
00:57:33,119 --> 00:57:35,760
to sit up a little bit faster, which I

1402
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,079
think is always a good thing if you get

1403
00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:41,280
to do anything fast.

1404
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:41,440
I

1405
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:42,880
>> mean, you have to show good faith that

1406
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,720
you're willing to spend money too for

1407
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:45,920
them to give you money.

1408
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,200
>> Absolutely. I hate the urgency to do

1409
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,440
anything especially when it comes to

1410
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,480
borrowing money and for a project which

1411
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:59,200
I just see so many problems with uh as

1412
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,440
it stands right now that obviously will

1413
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,040
be figured out before it is completed or

1414
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:06,640
not figured out. I don't know the

1415
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,760
traffic that historical aspect um the

1416
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:16,240
fields all of it I don't know I don't think that I can

1417
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,319
Maybe you should come to the meetings.

1418
00:58:18,319 --> 00:58:19,839
That would be helpful.

1419
00:58:19,839 --> 00:58:20,960
>> Would you like a motion?

1420
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:22,720
>> I I'll take a motion.

1421
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,319
>> Move to accept

1422
00:58:26,319 --> 00:58:29,359
the unanimous vote or thereof from the

1423
00:58:29,359 --> 00:58:32,400
Gates Department affordable housing of

1424
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,280
$5 billion to be expended from commute

1425
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:39,040
from the community housing section of

1426
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:40,559
CPC.

1427
00:58:40,559 --> 00:58:44,079
>> Move by Mr. Gilmore. Do I have a second?

1428
00:58:44,079 --> 00:58:45,599
by

1429
00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:46,720
All in favor?

1430
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,680
>> I opposed.

1431
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:54,160
>> Okay, we've got four one on that one.

1432
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:54,400
>> Okay.

1433
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,640
Thank you. Um I also mentioned

1434
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:00,160
this is only the second time in 22 years

1435
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,520
or 23 years that CPC has borrow had to

1436
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,240
borrow money. So um not something we

1437
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,240
want to do, but something we felt was

1438
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,640
necessary to get this project off the

1439
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:11,359
ground.

1440
00:59:11,359 --> 00:59:12,000
>> Yeah.

1441
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,880
>> Um okay. The next project is the uh Pier

1442
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,880
44 park construction. I do have uh uh

1443
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:23,119
make a comment on this. Uh I had a

1444
00:59:23,119 --> 00:59:24,960
little bit of a concern that the

1445
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:26,720
advisory committee uh turned this

1446
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:28,880
project down or devoted against this

1447
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,480
project. And uh the point I' I'd like to

1448
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,200
make is we we had uh vetting on this

1449
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,079
project over several months. uh three

1450
00:59:38,079 --> 00:59:40,880
years ago the uh town approved 300,000

1451
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,440
for the design of this project. We've

1452
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,000
had uh public meetings on this uh with

1453
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,720
CPC. I think we asked them to come back

1454
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:52,960
about five or six times and nobody had

1455
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,440
raised any objections to this. So my

1456
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,280
concern is that with the advisory

1457
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,400
committee not approving this that nobody

1458
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,200
brought any of the issues up prior to us

1459
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,839
going to the meeting last night. And uh

1460
01:00:05,839 --> 01:00:07,520
I had a little bit of a concern with

1461
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,000
that for future reference.

1462
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,559
>> What did advisory vote on the park?

1463
01:00:12,559 --> 01:00:13,200
>> Pardon?

1464
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,240
>> What did the advisory vote?

1465
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,000
>> They turned down. They voted no.

1466
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,760
>> Two of two.

1467
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:20,400
>> Yes. Okay.

1468
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,829
>> Or two again.

1469
01:00:23,839 --> 01:00:26,160
» So, um

1470
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,440
that's my opinion. Okay. the uh

1471
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,160
>> well I I guess I will say I've spent a

1472
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,720
lot of time with the committee and um

1473
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,599
over the years this is I think one of

1474
01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:40,319
the best examples of a community

1475
01:00:40,319 --> 01:00:43,359
committee in starting with a survey

1476
01:00:43,359 --> 01:00:46,160
getting um the number of meetings that

1477
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,640
they have had over the years. the amount

1478
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,920
of community input, the willingness to

1479
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,640
make changes and add additional parking

1480
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:58,240
and scale back um when costs were too

1481
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,760
high and and CPC's asking. So, I

1482
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,280
personally think that is a great project

1483
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,319
and I appreciate the amount of effort

1484
01:01:08,319 --> 01:01:12,960
that our um that our residents frankly

1485
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,480
have put into this and um I don't know

1486
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,760
that the advisory voting against it is a

1487
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,400
reason to not go to

1488
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,440
>> this. There's just a difference of

1489
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,359
opinion on what should be there.

1490
01:01:27,359 --> 01:01:29,280
>> Yes. I mean certainly that's their

1491
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,920
prerogative. it could be the makeup of

1492
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,400
the advisory committee.

1493
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,640
>> So the uh and I will say the initial

1494
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:40,160
estimates and and uh posts that we got

1495
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:43,440
were uh over $6 million and through some

1496
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,040
of the meetings we had with them and

1497
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,040
some of the requests we made with them

1498
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:50,480
to change the design. Uh they did get

1499
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:54,480
down to $3.8 million uh for the request

1500
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,880
which is what they're requesting from

1501
01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:01,280
CPC. So this is for the uh construction

1502
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,240
of the park. It features a boardwalk, a

1503
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:08,000
kayak launch, uh native plannings and

1504
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:12,400
ADA accessible uh paths. It will uh what

1505
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,559
they claim will balance parking and

1506
01:02:14,559 --> 01:02:16,640
green space, flood storage, and storm

1507
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:20,160
water management. Uh the 3.8 8 estimated

1508
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:21,760
cost. I'm not going to go through each

1509
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,680
of those each of the items that are on

1510
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,240
that list, but uh one of the biggest

1511
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,720
costs obviously is the boardwalk, uh

1512
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:32,559
carpentry, and uh the uh demolition of

1513
01:02:32,559 --> 01:02:35,760
the existing building that's there. Uh

1514
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,720
the town is actively seeking grants to

1515
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,720
be awarded hopefully by the end of the

1516
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,839
year. If those do grants do come in,

1517
01:02:43,839 --> 01:02:46,400
then they reduce the funding that CPC

1518
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,079
has put forward and that money comes

1519
01:02:48,079 --> 01:02:49,839
back to CPC.

1520
01:02:49,839 --> 01:02:52,880
>> How much grant money are you after?

1521
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:54,400
>> How much you think about all of your

1522
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,799
grants would it be? I mean, this says $3

1523
01:02:56,799 --> 01:02:59,680
million in Bobman would be included in

1524
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,280
this funding.

1525
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:02,319
>> Cory, you might

1526
01:03:02,319 --> 01:03:04,960
>> how how much money

1527
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,839
here?

1528
01:03:07,839 --> 01:03:09,920
>> A million. So, we'd still be borrowing

1529
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:11,760
$2 million. Yes.

1530
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:12,319
>> Thank you.

1531
01:03:12,319 --> 01:03:14,240
>> Well, we'd have to borrow the 3 million

1532
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,440
uh uh ahead of time so we could pay that

1533
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,839
down if we do get the grants

1534
01:03:19,839 --> 01:03:22,160
>> if if that's appropriate.

1535
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,000
>> Um we felt the project couldn't be

1536
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,280
postponed. Uh you go back to 2003, I

1537
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,400
believe, where the funds were allocated

1538
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,920
for the uh design and permitting. I know

1539
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,400
the the group that's uh responsible, the

1540
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,880
Shark Group, has done a lot of work to

1541
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:45,839
get those done. there are quite a few uh complexities of the location in

1542
01:03:45,839 --> 01:03:49,119
getting permitting to put anything there

1543
01:03:49,119 --> 01:03:51,280
uh regardless of whether it's a park or

1544
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,319
some other type of uh facility that goes

1545
01:03:54,319 --> 01:03:56,240
there. But we felt it couldn't be

1546
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,559
postponed. Uh it's been three years that

1547
01:03:58,559 --> 01:04:01,599
the town has been working on it and uh

1548
01:04:01,599 --> 01:04:03,440
we felt we should go ahead with this

1549
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,520
even though we do have to borrow $3

1550
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:09,359
million to get to that 3.8 8 million.

1551
01:04:09,359 --> 01:04:14,000
>> And I I will mention also uh the those

1552
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:17,280
last two articles, the Pier 44 and the

1553
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,440
Gates, since we're borrowing the money,

1554
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:21,599
will require a twothirds vote at the

1555
01:04:21,599 --> 01:04:24,799
town meeting. Just to make sure

1556
01:04:24,799 --> 01:04:27,359
everybody understands that.

1557
01:04:27,359 --> 01:04:30,559
And any questions on that project?

1558
01:04:30,559 --> 01:04:33,039
>> Any questions?

1559
01:04:33,039 --> 01:04:34,480
>> So much a question. I've sat through

1560
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:35,839
pretty much every single meeting we've

1561
01:04:35,839 --> 01:04:37,200
had over the last year and a half on

1562
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:38,799
this and I'm completely supportive of

1563
01:04:38,799 --> 01:04:41,280
it. I think I can echo Susan's thoughts

1564
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,520
on the fact that I think it's been a an

1565
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,240
excellent collaborative process. Um I

1566
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:47,680
think that we talked about the last

1567
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,079
three years or so putting into buying

1568
01:04:50,079 --> 01:04:52,960
factors here. I can't give Paul enough

1569
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,200
credit for all the effort they put in on

1570
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:56,960
going back and forth over and over again

1571
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:58,720
to research and think through options

1572
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:02,880
and cost reduction uh processes. But uh

1573
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,200
really this has been more of a an 18

1574
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,760
year process since uh since you know the

1575
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,000
train came back into town trying to

1576
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,480
reconfigure 44 from something that's

1577
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:14,240
been slowly deteriorating to something

1578
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,480
that could be what I think will be a

1579
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,359
centerpiece of a beautiful harbor. Um

1580
01:05:19,359 --> 01:05:22,319
and do everything from bring the town

1581
01:05:22,319 --> 01:05:24,880
commitment to bring the the walkable

1582
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,720
harbor all the way from the lighthouse

1583
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:28,480
to

1584
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,559
south side of the harbor. It will

1585
01:05:30,559 --> 01:05:32,559
provide for green space. It provides for

1586
01:05:32,559 --> 01:05:34,799
environmentality.

1587
01:05:34,799 --> 01:05:36,799
Um, you know, we've improved the parking

1588
01:05:36,799 --> 01:05:39,200
structure down there. I know there been

1589
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,599
some discussions about other options. I

1590
01:05:41,599 --> 01:05:44,799
think thoroughly vetted through CDC sat

1591
01:05:44,799 --> 01:05:46,400
through a lot of meetings on it as well,

1592
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,240
but

1593
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:51,039
committee on back there really are no

1594
01:05:51,039 --> 01:05:52,799
other good options other than green

1595
01:05:52,799 --> 01:05:56,799
space here. Uh and uh for for just for

1596
01:05:56,799 --> 01:05:59,039
the purposes of some debate that we've

1597
01:05:59,039 --> 01:06:00,640
had back and forth at different points

1598
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,799
in the process, um you know, there's

1599
01:06:02,799 --> 01:06:05,599
debate about parking in the town. Uh I'd

1600
01:06:05,599 --> 01:06:07,520
like to be up front of that to say that

1601
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,599
first of all, as a board, we're really

1602
01:06:09,599 --> 01:06:11,839
looking strongly to try and make a

1603
01:06:11,839 --> 01:06:13,520
global effort to look at parking in the

1604
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,400
Harvard parking institute so that we can

1605
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:17,920
really offset some of the concerns

1606
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,400
people have about parking in town and

1607
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,720
specifically to this site. It's really

1608
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,280
just not a a good space to try and put a

1609
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:27,200
giant parking lot. And even if we tried

1610
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,039
to do that, it would run up into

1611
01:06:29,039 --> 01:06:32,079
additional environmental PAR engineer

1612
01:06:32,079 --> 01:06:34,559
concerns because we still have to build

1613
01:06:34,559 --> 01:06:37,200
this whole seaw wall. So, um I think

1614
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,359
this is an valuable project. I think

1615
01:06:39,359 --> 01:06:41,119
it's going to be a fantastic project for

1616
01:06:41,119 --> 01:06:43,200
the town. It will be excellently

1617
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:46,079
utilized for generations to come. Um so,

1618
01:06:46,079 --> 01:06:49,839
I'm fully support.

1619
01:06:49,839 --> 01:06:52,079
>> Could I make a comment on the point

1620
01:06:52,079 --> 01:06:54,559
members at the seaw wall on

1621
01:06:54,559 --> 01:06:55,280
>> Batman.

1622
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:58,799
>> So, right.

1623
01:06:58,799 --> 01:07:00,400
>> Um,

1624
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:03,119
>> one of the comments I've I've heard, I

1625
01:07:03,119 --> 01:07:05,119
don't know this for a fact, but I've

1626
01:07:05,119 --> 01:07:06,559
heard that there are some deed

1627
01:07:06,559 --> 01:07:09,200
restrictions which do prohibit uh

1628
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:13,119
certain uses of the of the uh land.

1629
01:07:13,119 --> 01:07:15,760
>> Right. Right. As far as way,

1630
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:17,200
>> as far as what you can do with the land,

1631
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,760
>> you could make a parking lot.

1632
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,079
is not an option.

1633
01:07:22,079 --> 01:07:23,359
>> Um,

1634
01:07:23,359 --> 01:07:24,799
>> Dan, did you have something?

1635
01:07:24,799 --> 01:07:26,960
>> Yeah, know

1636
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,280
Dan, I think you misspelled a little bit

1637
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:31,599
saying that, you know, this project's

1638
01:07:31,599 --> 01:07:34,640
been really working for three years. I

1639
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:36,880
remember speaking to Joe Norton about it

1640
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,440
before he died in 2020. I don't know

1641
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:42,400
what to do. Um,

1642
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:46,799
I mean, this is inaction is an action.

1643
01:07:46,799 --> 01:07:49,520
Um,

1644
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,520
and for me is ever it's like trying to

1645
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,240
order pizza for a group. There's one

1646
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:56,400
person who wants anchovies or else you

1647
01:07:56,400 --> 01:08:00,720
just end up it's impossible.

1648
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:02,799
There's a gazillion. We've all heard

1649
01:08:02,799 --> 01:08:04,160
that we're going to continue spinning

1650
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:08,000
our wheels and I think uh, Madam Chair

1651
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,960
said it right that we owe we owe it to

1652
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:12,960
the people to actually have a vote on

1653
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:18,000
this. Is this exactly what I wanted you

1654
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,960
wanted? No. So many of these are never

1655
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,199
at all exactly what we think they're

1656
01:08:23,199 --> 01:08:26,400
going to be. I have learned more from

1657
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:29,199
Corey and Paul. I thought I saw Paul

1658
01:08:29,199 --> 01:08:30,400
there

1659
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,040
>> on what it means

1660
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:37,359
uh to bend and not break in the face of

1661
01:08:37,359 --> 01:08:40,640
public scrutiny for this project for the

1662
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:42,880
last three years than almost any of the

1663
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,960
projects I've been here on the board.

1664
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,520
Um,

1665
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:50,560
none of us here are perfect,

1666
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,960
but we're trying to put forward with all

1667
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:56,080
of you the best that we can for an

1668
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,400
option that's going to be there. And so

1669
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:00,799
I just I just want to say thank you uh

1670
01:09:00,799 --> 01:09:02,080
to everyone who's been working on this

1671
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:05,120
for so many years. Um

1672
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:10,560
that you know we're trying to push the ball forward on this and I

1673
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,799
think the work that's been done is

1674
01:09:12,799 --> 01:09:15,920
commendable and I'm really interested to

1675
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:19,920
see what's going to happen.

1676
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:21,920
>> Yes.

1677
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:25,199
>> To uh reemphasize both of your inputs.

1678
01:09:25,199 --> 01:09:27,920
This is a very balanced project. The

1679
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,080
balancing act has been a lot of give and

1680
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:34,799
take from everybody involved. Passions,

1681
01:09:34,799 --> 01:09:38,000
dreams, vision. This is going to be the

1682
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:39,920
most beautiful public access to the

1683
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:41,600
harbor

1684
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,719
in any location in the town. This is

1685
01:09:44,719 --> 01:09:47,520
going to be inviting. It is a balanced

1686
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:50,640
site. It is also, as you had mentioned,

1687
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:53,199
tied to our permitting dates. We've

1688
01:09:53,199 --> 01:09:54,960
already expended a lot of time and money

1689
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,840
to get our permits in order so we can

1690
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,320
move forward. So, I'm looking forward to

1691
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:04,719
this. Uh, is it perfect? No.

1692
01:10:04,719 --> 01:10:06,640
Why should we expect that? We should

1693
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:09,920
expect a balanced project, a balanced

1694
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,480
location that's going to be beautiful,

1695
01:10:12,480 --> 01:10:14,239
that's going to be inviting any of the

1696
01:10:14,239 --> 01:10:17,120
town citizenry there

1697
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,840
for years to come. So, I think it's a

1698
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:21,280
great start and a great step in the

1699
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,199
right direction.

1700
01:10:23,199 --> 01:10:27,040
>> No more borrowing money is through CPC.

1701
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:30,320
>> Yes.

1702
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,800
So technically,

1703
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:36,640
>> so we have for example, uh I think eight

1704
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,760
years ago or six years ago, I forgot how

1705
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,480
long it was, we did the uh athletic

1706
01:10:42,480 --> 01:10:44,719
field project behind the high school and

1707
01:10:44,719 --> 01:10:47,600
we borrowed uh money for that as well,

1708
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:49,920
which we're still paying a lot. So every

1709
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:53,440
year um there is an amount due that we

1710
01:10:53,440 --> 01:10:55,920
take out of the existing funds. That's

1711
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,400
how it works with CPC. So for the past

1712
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,120
years you could see uh it was

1713
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,760
approximately 300,000 is slowly going

1714
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:07,360
down but 300,000 was allocated each year

1715
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:10,400
to the uh repayment of the loan that we

1716
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:14,159
did on the high school fields.

1717
01:11:14,159 --> 01:11:16,719
Sorry. So it's separate from like the

1718
01:11:16,719 --> 01:11:20,470
operating

1719
01:11:20,480 --> 01:11:23,094
earlier.

1720
01:11:23,094 --> 01:11:23,520
[snorts]

1721
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,440
>> Um move to

1722
01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:28,239
>> any more questions.

1723
01:11:28,239 --> 01:11:31,360
>> Are we are we taking public comment on

1724
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:34,550
this?

1725
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,640
» I suppose we could. Yes.

1726
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:39,440
>> Yeah. Well, uh name and address for the

1727
01:11:39,440 --> 01:11:40,719
record.

1728
01:11:40,719 --> 01:11:43,440
57 way I'm also a member of the advisory

1729
01:11:43,440 --> 01:11:46,560
committee with all due respect to him

1730
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:48,480
advisory has spoken against

1731
01:11:48,480 --> 01:11:51,920
>> can you please address the board okay

1732
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:53,760
with all due respect to the selectman

1733
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:55,520
who heard somebody say that the advisor

1734
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:58,400
hasn't come forward we absolutely have

1735
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,239
and I've spoken about this at every

1736
01:12:00,239 --> 01:12:02,719
meeting I've spoken in front of you

1737
01:12:02,719 --> 01:12:06,000
several times so

1738
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,239
taking a swipe at advisory is just

1739
01:12:08,239 --> 01:12:10,320
playing on and it My fellow library

1740
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:13,600
community member also has spoken at town

1741
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,560
meeting and this as well. Nobody is

1742
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,040
saying don't build the park.

1743
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:23,440
All we are I have been saying is that

1744
01:12:23,440 --> 01:12:27,440
overflow park and harbor is pier 44. You

1745
01:12:27,440 --> 01:12:29,520
guys approved a private dinner party on

1746
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,600
front street. Susan, I believe you

1747
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:32,880
brought up the fact that where's the

1748
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:34,719
overflow parking? The town administrator

1749
01:12:34,719 --> 01:12:37,679
said pier 44. Where is the overflow

1750
01:12:37,679 --> 01:12:40,640
parking when board is gone? We've been

1751
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,120
we had a parking study in 2015 in

1752
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:44,880
Minnesota.

1753
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,440
Since then, we've got rid of spots on

1754
01:12:47,440 --> 01:12:49,120
here. We've got rid of spots in post

1755
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,920
park because in restaurants having

1756
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,159
outdoor seating, expanding and new

1757
01:12:54,159 --> 01:12:56,560
restaurants. That is true because in

1758
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,440
restaurants doing outdoor seating, new

1759
01:12:59,440 --> 01:13:01,345
restaurants and expanding restaurants

1760
01:13:01,345 --> 01:13:02,960
[clears throat] calls for an additional

1761
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:05,199
hundred spots. One for every four seats

1762
01:13:05,199 --> 01:13:07,600
that was added. So all we've done is

1763
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:09,600
added the need for more parking down

1764
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:12,239
there. And all we've ever asked or I've

1765
01:13:12,239 --> 01:13:15,920
ever asked is what is the plan? Last

1766
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:17,840
night somebody my fellow committee said

1767
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:19,600
why do we pay for a valet? The hard

1768
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,520
merchants pay for a valet. If they

1769
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:23,440
didn't have that money, where would we

1770
01:13:23,440 --> 01:13:26,080
valet them to?

1771
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:28,239
There's no parking.

1772
01:13:28,239 --> 01:13:31,040
Where would you valet these cars to?

1773
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:33,520
That's all we've ever said. It's just I

1774
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:35,760
know that think about the parking. This

1775
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:39,120
project itself is up over $6 million

1776
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:43,199
now. $6 million. And we're borrowing.

1777
01:13:43,199 --> 01:13:45,120
Our selectman has voted against

1778
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:46,719
borrowing for a project just before

1779
01:13:46,719 --> 01:13:48,480
this. And we're borrowing for this. This

1780
01:13:48,480 --> 01:13:52,320
is not a need. This is a want. I don't

1781
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,239
know about any of you guys, but in my

1782
01:13:54,239 --> 01:13:56,800
household, in my business, I don't

1783
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:59,120
borrow and pay interest for something I

1784
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:02,239
want. I do it if I need to. But you

1785
01:14:02,239 --> 01:14:04,719
don't do it because you want to.

1786
01:14:04,719 --> 01:14:05,520
>> Sure.

1787
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:06,560
>> Yes.

1788
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:08,811
>> I think your numbers are erroneous.

1789
01:14:08,811 --> 01:14:09,280
[clears throat]

1790
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:10,000
>> What numbers?

1791
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,320
>> The price the project construction we're

1792
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:15,120
going to vote here today is 3,835

1793
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:17,520
>> and we paid 1.8 from property. We've

1794
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,560
already done 300,000. We had to pay 1.8

1795
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:22,239
for the property because we had to have

1796
01:14:22,239 --> 01:14:24,719
that. That's not that's not part of this

1797
01:14:24,719 --> 01:14:26,320
project to have that.

1798
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:28,320
>> Yeah. I just like Thank you for your

1799
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:29,920
comment. Thank you for your comment. I

1800
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:31,440
just we're not going to go back and

1801
01:14:31,440 --> 01:14:33,199
forth. Thank you for your comment and

1802
01:14:33,199 --> 01:14:36,239
thank you for all of your work on this.

1803
01:14:36,239 --> 01:14:39,280
Um we have we're just agree to we're

1804
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:41,679
going to agree to disagree on this one.

1805
01:14:41,679 --> 01:14:44,080
>> I think it's a very important project. I

1806
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:48,719
think access to the harbor um is a need,

1807
01:14:48,719 --> 01:14:51,520
not a want. In my mind, we live in a

1808
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:53,199
coastal community and you shouldn't have

1809
01:14:53,199 --> 01:14:54,800
to have a boat to have access to the

1810
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:58,880
harbor. And this is about the common

1811
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:00,880
person having access to the harbor,

1812
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:04,320
which is a need right now. So, I mean, I

1813
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:06,960
think it is an amazing project. We

1814
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:10,320
cannot have a parking lot. We that money

1815
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:13,040
that we use to borrow the to pay for

1816
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:15,280
this does not allow us to have a parking

1817
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:17,760
lot. So that's not an option. We are

1818
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:19,679
working.

1819
01:15:19,679 --> 01:15:21,040
>> Thank you for your comment. We are

1820
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:23,679
working on a on additional parking in

1821
01:15:23,679 --> 01:15:26,239
the harbor and we are working with the

1822
01:15:26,239 --> 01:15:29,920
committee is setting up on that. So

1823
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:33,440
we're doing our best on that as well. Um

1824
01:15:33,440 --> 01:15:36,800
are we and I will also say one other

1825
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:40,080
thing we received I know from last

1826
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,159
night's vote on the advisory to tonight

1827
01:15:42,159 --> 01:15:44,560
we we received multiple letters of

1828
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,640
support of the project as well um

1829
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,679
directed to the select board regarding

1830
01:15:49,679 --> 01:15:52,080
support of the project on how awesome it

1831
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,000
was and how appreciative they were for

1832
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:57,120
the uh just for the efforts of the

1833
01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:00,400
committee for what it turned out the

1834
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:03,120
project and on numerous things. So, we

1835
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:04,960
also I do want to put that in for the

1836
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,760
record, too. Are we ready for a motion?

1837
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:09,760
>> Miss Harrison, Miss Harrison, we do have

1838
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:11,199
virtual hands raised if you are

1839
01:16:11,199 --> 01:16:13,679
>> uh I guess we took one person take a

1840
01:16:13,679 --> 01:16:14,880
moment, right? Okay,

1841
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:16,239
>> you get it, Jennifer.

1842
01:16:16,239 --> 01:16:18,159
>> All right, Jennifer, you have your hand

1843
01:16:18,159 --> 01:16:20,880
raised on your uh Jennifer's iPhone.

1844
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:24,960
Could you please um set unmute and name

1845
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:27,199
and address for the record, please?

1846
01:16:27,199 --> 01:16:29,840
>> Yeah. Uh Jennifer Keune. It's 20 Harry

1847
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,880
Lichfield Lane.

1848
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:36,480
And um I would ask the board, how long

1849
01:16:36,480 --> 01:16:38,560
is it going to take to pay off this 3

1850
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:40,960
million with all the other money that

1851
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,040
we're borrowing? Is it going to take 10

1852
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:48,630
years, 20 years?

1853
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:52,080
» All the CPC borrowing I put in for 10 so

1854
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,880
it doesn't lock the town in. So the CPC

1855
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:56,880
borrowing in this is similar to the

1856
01:16:56,880 --> 01:17:00,400
athletic field we put in for 10 years.

1857
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:03,760
>> Okay. Well, I think that the design is

1858
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,400
um not the correct design for the space.

1859
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,040
I think the town and the residents have

1860
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:11,840
plenty of access to the harbor and I

1861
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:13,360
think that the board should hold off on

1862
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:15,440
this.

1863
01:17:15,440 --> 01:17:16,880
>> Thank you for your comment.

1864
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:17,360
>> Thank you.

1865
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:18,880
>> Are there any are there additional

1866
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:23,360
comments in the room?

1867
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:24,880
No.

1868
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:26,400
>> Okay.

1869
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:27,920
Motion

1870
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:31,120
>> move to recommend

1871
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:35,590
the sum of $3,835,165

1872
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:39,040
for the pier 44 park structure project

1873
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:40,640
from CPC.

1874
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:41,440
>> Second.

1875
01:17:41,440 --> 01:17:44,159
>> Moved by Mr. Gilmore, second by Dr.

1876
01:17:44,159 --> 01:17:46,960
Konosenko. All in favor?

1877
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:47,840
>> Opposed?

1878
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:48,480
>> No.

1879
01:17:48,480 --> 01:17:51,280
>> Four ones.

1880
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:51,920
Thank you again.

1881
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:53,440
>> Hey, thank you.

1882
01:17:53,440 --> 01:18:05,510
>> Appreciate all your work.

1883
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:12,550
» All right. Next, we have

1884
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:15,760
» Whoa. Wooden current discussing the

1885
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,960
water treatment plant update.

1886
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:19,679
Yay.

1887
01:18:19,679 --> 01:18:22,709
>> Good evening.

1888
01:18:22,719 --> 01:18:24,080
I'm on budget, I hear.

1889
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,640
>> Yes. [laughter]

1890
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,080
>> Excellent.

1891
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,480
>> And we had

1892
01:18:30,480 --> 01:18:35,590
>> Yes.

1893
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,560
» Jamie and I were there last week. We

1894
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:41,040
were very impressed with the progress.

1895
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,440
>> Great. I'm I'm happy to hear that. And

1896
01:18:43,440 --> 01:18:44,080
um

1897
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,320
>> question speaks.

1898
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:48,560
>> Okay. [laughter]

1899
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:52,080
I'll direct your comments to Mark.

1900
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:53,840
>> They do have the paving down which is a

1901
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:56,080
big improvement.

1902
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:57,679
>> Yeah. No, there's definitely been a lot

1903
01:18:57,679 --> 01:19:00,239
of um yeah, progress each week. So,

1904
01:19:00,239 --> 01:19:03,280
appreciate um yes, you allowing us to

1905
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:05,679
provide an update here tonight. Um I

1906
01:19:05,679 --> 01:19:07,120
know I've met all of you, but I'm Lauren

1907
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:12,239
Hurdle with Ren, project manager on the project here. Um so our agenda

1908
01:19:12,239 --> 01:19:14,080
will run through the project status,

1909
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:16,719
construction progress, upcoming

1910
01:19:16,719 --> 01:19:19,199
construction activities, our ongoing

1911
01:19:19,199 --> 01:19:20,880
coordination, and then open up for

1912
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,920
comments and questions.

1913
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:25,920
>> So sharing uh where we're at with

1914
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,880
submittals. So right now we have 736

1915
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:31,120
mills closed to date that the the team

1916
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,280
has reviewed and vetted. Uh we have two

1917
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:35,360
open submittals and really what remains

1918
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:38,239
for submittals are ONM manuals. all

1919
01:19:38,239 --> 01:19:40,480
major equipment has been approved and is

1920
01:19:40,480 --> 01:19:45,199
either on-site or installed. So, we're far into the submittal process.

1921
01:19:45,199 --> 01:19:48,880
So, it's really on and at this point we

1922
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:52,239
have three open RFIs that we are um

1923
01:19:52,239 --> 01:19:54,400
reviewing. So, that's request for

1924
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:56,080
information.

1925
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:58,719
As far as schedule goes, we are on track

1926
01:19:58,719 --> 01:20:01,440
with our final completion of June 8th,

1927
01:20:01,440 --> 01:20:04,709
2027

1928
01:20:04,719 --> 01:20:08,560
and we have um percent progress as of 91

1929
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:11,360
2026. So that's our most recent pay.

1930
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:15,120
We're complete by 81.3% by payment and

1931
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:18,880
by final completion um we're 73.8%

1932
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:22,950
on time.

1933
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:24,560
Just to interject, the difference

1934
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:26,480
between substantial completion is final

1935
01:20:26,480 --> 01:20:28,640
completion. That's the time that we are

1936
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:30,880
in the plant running the plant making

1937
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:32,880
sure it works, all the systems work

1938
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:35,600
before it actually gets checked. So

1939
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,400
several months work in the plant before

1940
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:43,990
it actually goes live the

1941
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:44,719
» Sorry.

1942
01:20:44,719 --> 01:20:46,960
>> No, it's perfect.

1943
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:49,199
And so I'm sharing this slide. We're not

1944
01:20:49,199 --> 01:20:51,120
here for, you know, requesting approval

1945
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:53,760
to a change order tonight. Um, but we

1946
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:56,000
are in negotiations and review with the

1947
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:57,520
contract. We're currently on a pending

1948
01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:59,600
change order. So, I wanted to be able to

1949
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:01,199
provide this information just so you're

1950
01:21:01,199 --> 01:21:03,440
aware of where we are with the with the

1951
01:21:03,440 --> 01:21:07,679
contract. So, we we have presented and come up, you know, to the board for

1952
01:21:07,679 --> 01:21:09,440
approval of change orders one through

1953
01:21:09,440 --> 01:21:12,239
four. that totals an amount of 1.14

1954
01:21:12,239 --> 01:21:14,560
million with our current contract value

1955
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:18,480
of up the 59 million um 850,000.

1956
01:21:18,480 --> 01:21:20,960
So our contingency that we started with

1957
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:23,040
we're at 2.9

1958
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:24,960
um with the change orders one through

1959
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,120
four approved we have you know just shy

1960
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:30,159
of 1.8 million in contingency remaining.

1961
01:21:30,159 --> 01:21:32,400
Um, so just again wanted to give this

1962
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:33,920
information so you know where we are

1963
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:35,600
from the financial standpoint and a

1964
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:37,600
little more detail as far as contingency

1965
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,640
goes and when we are ready and we have

1966
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:43,520
costs to review um we will be sure to

1967
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:44,719
you know bring that to the board's

1968
01:21:44,719 --> 01:21:45,360
attention

1969
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:48,159
>> and that change order has to do with the

1970
01:21:48,159 --> 01:21:50,080
intake at that time.

1971
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,400
>> Oh no that's a a separate project. Thank

1972
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:54,639
you. So that's the actual construction

1973
01:21:54,639 --> 01:21:54,960
of

1974
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:56,239
>> Yeah, that's I know you don't want to

1975
01:21:56,239 --> 01:21:56,719
talk about

1976
01:21:56,719 --> 01:21:58,639
>> Oh, yeah. No, no. And it's only out of

1977
01:21:58,639 --> 01:22:00,400
respect of we want to make sure we have

1978
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:02,880
all the information in place. Okay. Yes.

1979
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:05,280
But um but no, the intake is something

1980
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:08,950
separate.

1981
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:12,560
» Okay. So into the fun, the progress. Um

1982
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:16,080
so as Yeah, Kevin noted even this photo

1983
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:18,639
is outdated where paving has gone down.

1984
01:22:18,639 --> 01:22:20,800
So, um, and actually our contractor out

1985
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:22,239
there noted when they were laying the

1986
01:22:22,239 --> 01:22:25,199
pavement down, um, that marked two years

1987
01:22:25,199 --> 01:22:27,199
from the first like bucket that hit the

1988
01:22:27,199 --> 01:22:29,040
site. So, it's just a, you know, a great

1989
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:31,760
milestone. Um, the project continues to

1990
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:33,600
be, yeah, then this goes in a little

1991
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,679
more detail of really where we are with

1992
01:22:35,679 --> 01:22:38,320
progress. So, structural concrete is all

1993
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:41,199
complete. That was a large undertaking.

1994
01:22:41,199 --> 01:22:43,920
Over 6,000 cubic yards of concrete. So,

1995
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:45,520
all of that is in. We just have

1996
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:48,080
miscellaneous like sidewalks remaining.

1997
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:50,239
masonry um just about there as well.

1998
01:22:50,239 --> 01:22:52,639
What's remaining for masonry is the

1999
01:22:52,639 --> 01:22:55,120
decorative um masonry on the outside of

2000
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:56,560
the building, but all the concrete

2001
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:58,880
masonry block that really builds the

2002
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:01,920
structure, all of that is complete. Um

2003
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:03,280
noting, you know, just kind of going

2004
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,199
through the list like where, as you can

2005
01:23:05,199 --> 01:23:07,600
see, we're 90 85 like really what

2006
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:10,560
remains. um site restoration. We still

2007
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:12,480
know have a bit to go, but that really

2008
01:23:12,480 --> 01:23:16,639
buttons up once you have the um once you

2009
01:23:16,639 --> 01:23:18,639
have the paving in place. Now the team

2010
01:23:18,639 --> 01:23:20,800
can really work uh the contractors can

2011
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:22,639
work and start to grade along the site.

2012
01:23:22,639 --> 01:23:24,560
That kind of that becomes the base of

2013
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:27,440
the structure and um you know really

2014
01:23:27,440 --> 01:23:29,360
this the startup and working through

2015
01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:32,400
equipment testing. That's going to be

2016
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:35,440
the major focus as we you know continue

2017
01:23:35,440 --> 01:23:38,950
on here.

2018
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:40,800
Just sharing a few more photos. You can

2019
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:45,440
see the progress that was made in um oh

2020
01:23:45,440 --> 01:23:47,280
>> yeah just yeah just point through like

2021
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:49,440
we have the uh in the garage space we

2022
01:23:49,440 --> 01:23:51,600
have our backwash pumps uh piping in the

2023
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:55,040
pipe gallery that's noted there.

2024
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:56,719
>> Go yeah I can go to the next slide and

2025
01:23:56,719 --> 01:23:58,320
in this so I wanted to show just the

2026
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:00,239
different steps of um you know the

2027
01:24:00,239 --> 01:24:03,280
waterproofing getting the um you know

2028
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:05,040
all the insulation in the prep for

2029
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:06,560
siding. So, it kind of walks through and

2030
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:09,040
you can see the finished product. Um,

2031
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:11,040
it's probably, you know, clearer on site

2032
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:12,480
where you can see the the siding there,

2033
01:24:12,480 --> 01:24:14,639
but the the back side of the the picture

2034
01:24:14,639 --> 01:24:20,560
all the way to the right is really the finished product there as far as

2035
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:22,960
and so what you know, I noted here site

2036
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,280
paving. This was prepared before Friday.

2037
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:29,360
Uh, but the paving is now um well, the binder of course is down. Final

2038
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:30,719
paving will be done once all the

2039
01:24:30,719 --> 01:24:32,800
equipment is off the site and we're no

2040
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:34,400
longer running the heavy loads through

2041
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:35,440
there.

2042
01:24:35,440 --> 01:24:37,520
um process piping treatment. That

2043
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:40,480
insulation is ongoing and really looking

2044
01:24:40,480 --> 01:24:42,639
towards the the startup, getting the

2045
01:24:42,639 --> 01:24:45,440
electrical um all the controls in place

2046
01:24:45,440 --> 01:24:47,760
so that we can you know start testing

2047
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:50,320
the system and and getting to water

2048
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:56,149
being pumped through this facility.

2049
01:24:56,159 --> 01:24:58,400
And um and I know this is a familiar

2050
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:01,040
slide, but why I like to to keep it here

2051
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:03,199
is really we we do focus on

2052
01:25:03,199 --> 01:25:06,080
communication weekly touch points where

2053
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:08,560
the town is present, the contractor, uh

2054
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:11,600
wing car and our RPR. Um and I did want

2055
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:13,520
to just highlight I was talking to our

2056
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:15,920
resident inspector today and and he just

2057
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:18,480
said that, you know, he sees it as a a a

2058
01:25:18,480 --> 01:25:20,560
crew that cares and he's been doing this

2059
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:23,120
for about 50 years. And so to hear, you

2060
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:24,719
know, that he's seeing that this crew

2061
01:25:24,719 --> 01:25:27,280
really cares about their work is it's,

2062
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:28,719
you know, it was warm for me to hear. I

2063
01:25:28,719 --> 01:25:30,639
want to share it here with you as well.

2064
01:25:30,639 --> 01:25:32,719
Our next progress meeting um will be

2065
01:25:32,719 --> 01:25:36,239
held October 2nd and um as far as like

2066
01:25:36,239 --> 01:25:38,400
monthly review of project schedule,

2067
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:42,000
payments, that's all on a monthly basis.

2068
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:43,920
So pause for questions.

2069
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:44,480
>> Questions?

2070
01:25:44,480 --> 01:25:46,560
>> Yeah,

2071
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:48,639
thank you. The communication has been

2072
01:25:48,639 --> 01:25:50,560
fabulous. It's been really good. really

2073
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:54,480
do appreciate it. Um I it might be time

2074
01:25:54,480 --> 01:25:57,280
humble thought or suggestion to think

2075
01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:00,159
about we had the

2076
01:26:00,159 --> 01:26:02,239
violation that we had to maybe [snorts]

2077
01:26:02,239 --> 01:26:04,480
get some facts out about how this new

2078
01:26:04,480 --> 01:26:07,199
plan will be able to address the exactly

2079
01:26:07,199 --> 01:26:10,480
how they can address like water. You

2080
01:26:10,480 --> 01:26:13,280
know, again, not that again, this is a

2081
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:15,920
panacea, but how these things are going

2082
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:18,560
to be addressed, all these different

2083
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:22,080
types of issues that we've had.

2084
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:23,600
We thought of it, we've seen it, they

2085
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:24,800
could kind of knock them out of the

2086
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:27,760
park. So, I'm starting to get the sense

2087
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:29,520
some people are kind of anxious saying,

2088
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:30,800
well, gez are still getting these. I

2089
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:34,080
thought the water plant was got a So,

2090
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:35,600
anyway, I just think it could be the

2091
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:36,719
time now to kind of change.

2092
01:26:36,719 --> 01:26:38,560
>> We can do some kind of frequently asked

2093
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:41,600
questions. Yeah, because it's put in so

2094
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:42,719
much work. It's going to address all

2095
01:26:42,719 --> 01:26:44,400
these issues. We just need to make sure

2096
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:46,560
people know so they're even more comfort

2097
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:50,400
more excited for the 259 days. Let's try

2098
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,239
that [laughter]

2099
01:26:52,239 --> 01:26:55,750
off.

2100
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:57,360
» So, we were even talking about bringing

2101
01:26:57,360 --> 01:26:59,360
Seth through and doing a doing a video

2102
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:02,080
maybe at some point in the future and

2103
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:04,000
put that up and put that on YouTube so

2104
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:06,400
that people could see it. Um, one of the

2105
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:08,400
things Woodward current is working on is

2106
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:11,360
Rebecca's working on a single sheet

2107
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:13,440
because every time we come in, people

2108
01:27:13,440 --> 01:27:14,800
have questions, what's this do, what's

2109
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:16,880
that do, it kind of explains the whole

2110
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:18,960
flow of the plant and we can give it to

2111
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:20,639
them, you know, and they can kind of

2112
01:27:20,639 --> 01:27:22,800
follow along as they as they see the

2113
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:24,000
plant and that's something we can

2114
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:25,280
publish also

2115
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:27,679
>> just to see how that would go. So, we're

2116
01:27:27,679 --> 01:27:30,080
hoping to have that as early as Friday.

2117
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:32,080
Uh, I'd say maybe within a week

2118
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:33,520
afterwards we'll review it, get

2119
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:34,560
everything all down. Maybe it's

2120
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:37,120
something we can post out

2121
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:39,679
>> and Seth might be two or three weeks out

2122
01:27:39,679 --> 01:27:41,040
and we get a little further along in a

2123
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:43,199
couple areas.

2124
01:27:43,199 --> 01:27:47,520
Christian back there is maybe

2125
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:49,199
some good questions later about it so

2126
01:27:49,199 --> 01:27:51,199
more residents can learn about it.

2127
01:27:51,199 --> 01:27:53,440
>> Yeah. So, because we're not using

2128
01:27:53,440 --> 01:27:55,840
chlorine gas in the new treatment plant,

2129
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:57,920
does that mean that we won't have THM

2130
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:01,189
violation?

2131
01:28:01,199 --> 01:28:03,679
I can address that one. Uh that's not

2132
01:28:03,679 --> 01:28:05,520
the reason, but you will not have THM

2133
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:07,600
violations. The the chlorin chlorine

2134
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:09,199
that you put in one way or another,

2135
01:28:09,199 --> 01:28:11,440
chlorine gas or sodium hypocchlorite, uh

2136
01:28:11,440 --> 01:28:13,440
that's for disinfection purposes as part

2137
01:28:13,440 --> 01:28:15,360
of the treatment process. What happens

2138
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:17,760
up front before that in the unit

2139
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:19,760
treatment processes is what's going to

2140
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:21,600
be much improved in the new plant versus

2141
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:22,800
your old plant.

2142
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:24,960
>> So the removal of the organics or the

2143
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:27,440
get to treatment will be much better on

2144
01:28:27,440 --> 01:28:30,080
this plant than we do. Correct.

2145
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:32,080
>> Okay. And that will also be impacted by

2146
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:33,840
the capital project which we have on

2147
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:36,320
which is to take a lot of the silt out

2148
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:38,480
of the reservoir. A lot of the organics

2149
01:28:38,480 --> 01:28:39,679
out of the reservoir. That's also

2150
01:28:39,679 --> 01:28:43,760
problems also. But this is Rob the front

2151
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:46,521
end as opposed to the back end. But yes,

2152
01:28:46,521 --> 01:28:52,870
[clears throat]

2153
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:56,470
» any other question?

2154
01:28:56,480 --> 01:29:00,080
» Thank you very much. tour. It's worth

2155
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,800
update.

2156
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:05,040
>> We meet every Friday at site at 10 once

2157
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:12,470
a month. We're here

2158
01:29:12,480 --> 01:29:14,080
» and and I will throw this out on behalf

2159
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:16,239
would like we have a marketing team as

2160
01:29:16,239 --> 01:29:17,920
well. I know sub will do a tremendous

2161
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:19,920
job. We've done walkthroughs with yours

2162
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,000
truly providing a tour happened during

2163
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:23,679
COVID when you couldn't physically visit

2164
01:29:23,679 --> 01:29:26,159
a site. So you can see me giving a tour

2165
01:29:26,159 --> 01:29:27,440
of one of our other facilities on

2166
01:29:27,440 --> 01:29:31,679
YouTube and our own team did that. So

2167
01:29:31,679 --> 01:29:33,440
>> wants to take Rob will take you up on

2168
01:29:33,440 --> 01:29:33,760
that.

2169
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:34,400
>> Sure.

2170
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:36,080
>> He just volunteered.

2171
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:36,560
>> I did.

2172
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:39,360
>> Yeah. I don't forget class once. He's

2173
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:39,760
very good.

2174
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:42,239
>> I think people should be really

2175
01:29:42,239 --> 01:29:44,400
I don't use excited but excited for this

2176
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:46,719
plan coming online. I know Eric doesn't

2177
01:29:46,719 --> 01:29:48,560
sleep all summer because we have one of

2178
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:50,800
everything. If the plane goes down,

2179
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:53,840
we're in big trouble. So the redundancy

2180
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:56,159
much much higher level of treatment that

2181
01:29:56,159 --> 01:29:58,480
we're going to do organics [snorts]

2182
01:29:58,480 --> 01:29:59,760
your ground water we're going to keep

2183
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:02,080
fing mayonnaise in our teeth for now

2184
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:03,760
PTHMS

2185
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:05,600
is really it's going to it's not going

2186
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:07,280
to cure everything there's always still

2187
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:09,600
going to be problem but a lot of the

2188
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:11,600
nagging stuff that we've been seeing is

2189
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:13,120
going to go a long way to clean a lot of

2190
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:17,440
stuff people should be excited for this

2191
01:30:17,440 --> 01:30:19,840
>> yeah and and it'll take a while it's not

2192
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:23,280
going to just be flipping a switch it'll take a while to get all the

2193
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:25,120
sediment out of the pipes. I I want to

2194
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:26,159
make sure people are aware of that.

2195
01:30:26,159 --> 01:30:28,400
Also, it's not just going to happen.

2196
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:31,199
We've got enough, you know, enough pipe

2197
01:30:31,199 --> 01:30:32,880
to go from here. It'll almost pull in

2198
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:34,320
Maine. So, it's not just going to all

2199
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:38,560
flush at once. So, take that, but it'll

2200
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:39,679
be a big improvement.

2201
01:30:39,679 --> 01:30:41,840
>> It can't bring me down. I'm still upset.

2202
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:43,840
>> No, I am too. Believe me,

2203
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:45,840
>> I think realistic expectations are a

2204
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:48,639
good thing and I think that we need to

2205
01:30:48,639 --> 01:30:50,239
as you said just start start

2206
01:30:50,239 --> 01:30:52,560
communicating with public about what

2207
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:54,080
they can expect because it's not going

2208
01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:56,719
to be remember it's going to be you know

2209
01:30:56,719 --> 01:30:58,000
probably the end of next year before

2210
01:30:58,000 --> 01:30:59,120
some of the people at the end of that

2211
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:04,790
pipelistication

2212
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:07,120
so sure they can match their own

2213
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:09,920
concerns as a

2214
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:10,320
>> thank you.

2215
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:12,239
>> Yeah. Thank you. All right.

2216
01:31:12,239 --> 01:31:14,800
Now to our citric update, right?

2217
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:17,760
>> I stay

2218
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:22,550
right.

2219
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:24,400
» Okay.

2220
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:27,430
>> Tomorrow

2221
01:31:27,440 --> 01:31:33,910
I know it.

2222
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:38,470
» All right.

2223
01:31:38,480 --> 01:31:43,750
Good evening.

2224
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:46,159
So, we've made a a lot of progress over

2225
01:31:46,159 --> 01:31:48,080
the last 11 months since I was before

2226
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:52,800
you uh last. Um here's a summary of our

2227
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:55,360
completed ongoing work.

2228
01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:57,440
Uh we finished our final existing

2229
01:31:57,440 --> 01:31:58,800
conditions work which were some

2230
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:00,719
geotechnical borings. Those were

2231
01:32:00,719 --> 01:32:03,679
completed last fall. Uh we've also

2232
01:32:03,679 --> 01:32:06,239
progressed final design to substantial

2233
01:32:06,239 --> 01:32:08,400
completion. Uh so plans and

2234
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:10,239
specifications for the pump station and

2235
01:32:10,239 --> 01:32:13,520
the site layout, the low pressure sewer,

2236
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:16,000
the manholes, gravity pipes, and force

2237
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:17,760
manual.

2238
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:19,520
Uh we've also uh worked through

2239
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:21,440
permitting. Uh there's one outstanding

2240
01:32:21,440 --> 01:32:23,600
with the US Army Corpse of Engineers

2241
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:26,560
pre-construction notification. Uh we've

2242
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:28,080
received comments back from them and

2243
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:30,960
we're just awaiting a final uh permit to

2244
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:33,360
be provided. Uh the comments were rather

2245
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:36,320
minor in nature and we addressed them.

2246
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:39,040
Uh we've also submitted the local permit

2247
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:40,400
to the conservation commission, the

2248
01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:43,920
notice of intent uh which we received a

2249
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:46,000
order of conditions to include with the

2250
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:48,320
contract documents.

2251
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:50,719
And the last one was the coastal zone

2252
01:32:50,719 --> 01:32:53,440
management uh confirmation. Uh we

2253
01:32:53,440 --> 01:32:56,000
coordinated with them and they uh gave

2254
01:32:56,000 --> 01:33:00,239
confirmation that uh we are below the

2255
01:33:00,239 --> 01:33:02,239
federal consistency review threshold

2256
01:33:02,239 --> 01:33:05,120
which was great news.

2257
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:07,840
Uh, [clears throat] another item was uh

2258
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:10,080
working with developers to make sure our

2259
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:13,840
design uh in congruence with their plans

2260
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:16,719
in the north situate area. And then uh

2261
01:33:16,719 --> 01:33:19,440
the great news was the town received a

2262
01:33:19,440 --> 01:33:21,520
uh they got on the intended use plan for

2263
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:24,239
the state revolving fund uh for a low

2264
01:33:24,239 --> 01:33:26,960
interest loan to construct the project

2265
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,199
which was great. So uh the last step for

2266
01:33:29,199 --> 01:33:31,040
the project here before construction is

2267
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:32,960
working through the the loan process.

2268
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:35,280
So, we're preparing a package that's due

2269
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:38,080
on October 2nd, which we're on track to

2270
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:40,800
submit. The one item that came up during

2271
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:44,080
the preparation of the package was that

2272
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:46,960
uh the ownership of the parcel uh was

2273
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:48,880
never transferred back to the town at

2274
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:50,800
the conclusion of the Green Bush

2275
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:52,960
project. Uh was discovered during the

2276
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:54,719
title search. That's part of that

2277
01:33:54,719 --> 01:33:57,199
process. So, we're actively working with

2278
01:33:57,199 --> 01:34:00,480
the MBTA right now to uh try to resolve

2279
01:34:00,480 --> 01:34:03,440
this issue and work through it before

2280
01:34:03,440 --> 01:34:06,080
construction and maintain uh our project

2281
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:06,719
schedule.

2282
01:34:06,719 --> 01:34:08,800
>> Is that the parcel for the pump station?

2283
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:11,280
>> Correct. You're talking about correct

2284
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:14,800
>> and uh we're prepared to pivot if to a

2285
01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:17,760
new location if for some reason the MBTA

2286
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:20,080
were not able to to work through an

2287
01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:21,840
easement or an agreement on the land

2288
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:24,560
ownership. So the most advantageous

2289
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:26,960
position by the pump station was on his

2290
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:29,679
on a specific parcel and when they did

2291
01:34:29,679 --> 01:34:31,440
the deep research found out it wasn't

2292
01:34:31,440 --> 01:34:33,440
conveyed back to the town from the rain

2293
01:34:33,440 --> 01:34:35,440
bush project. So we've been reaching out

2294
01:34:35,440 --> 01:34:37,600
to the MBTA. Dan's been chasing him down

2295
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:39,440
had multiple meetings but in the

2296
01:34:39,440 --> 01:34:42,400
meantime I've requested him to move the

2297
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:45,040
design see if we can move it over to a

2298
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:47,040
town parcel and continue the project and

2299
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:49,760
not be slowed down. So that's a position

2300
01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:50,960
where we're at now and we're going

2301
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:53,280
forward. So, would that person be down

2302
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:54,960
by the like on the other side of the

2303
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:55,120
train?

2304
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:56,239
>> It wouldn't be on the other side. It

2305
01:34:56,239 --> 01:34:59,679
would probably be about 60 feet

2306
01:34:59,679 --> 01:35:01,840
south far north actually from where we

2307
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:02,560
are now.

2308
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:06,400
>> So, is it the MBCA is not we're not able

2309
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:09,199
to meet with them or

2310
01:35:09,199 --> 01:35:10,639
>> No, they've actually met with them twice

2311
01:35:10,639 --> 01:35:11,600
already

2312
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:14,239
>> and won't make a decision.

2313
01:35:14,239 --> 01:35:16,080
>> They move at a glacial pace.

2314
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:18,239
>> It's the state moving at the state's

2315
01:35:18,239 --> 01:35:18,800
pace,

2316
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:20,719
>> right? And there's nothing our

2317
01:35:20,719 --> 01:35:24,000
representatives can do about that.

2318
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:25,600
>> Not that's going to set it on fire.

2319
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:27,840
We'll work with them when we can. They

2320
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:28,560
were

2321
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:30,400
>> We try.

2322
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:34,480
>> I just never see the movie

2323
01:35:34,480 --> 01:35:39,030
pace when it comes to stuff like this.

2324
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:42,080
» So, we're still go until it gets pushed

2325
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:42,800
past the

2326
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:44,400
>> we're leaving it the location because we

2327
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:46,639
think it's most advantageous position

2328
01:35:46,639 --> 01:35:49,280
and um we will move it. will pivot it if

2329
01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:51,760
need be. If it doesn't follow through,

2330
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:54,800
um Rob seemed pretty positive on it. He

2331
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:56,960
thought it could go through, but we're

2332
01:35:56,960 --> 01:35:58,480
being safe either way. We're going to be

2333
01:35:58,480 --> 01:36:00,159
able to pivot and continue and get the

2334
01:36:00,159 --> 01:36:02,880
project out um to go forward.

2335
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:05,120
>> This advance is something we would still

2336
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:07,840
like to follow up on regardless how

2337
01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:08,719
fast.

2338
01:36:08,719 --> 01:36:09,199
>> Yep.

2339
01:36:09,199 --> 01:36:11,840
>> Yes.

2340
01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:13,440
>> The deadline for that wouldn't be the

2341
01:36:13,440 --> 01:36:15,520
second. Whatever. No, the second just to

2342
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:18,320
get the application in and we we have a

2343
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:20,159
100% design plan.

2344
01:36:20,159 --> 01:36:22,400
>> We just don't have proven ownership of

2345
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:24,880
that location yet. So if need be by the

2346
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:26,960
time we went out to bid, which I think

2347
01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:29,120
is December

2348
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:31,280
>> January January time frame. Yeah.

2349
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:32,800
>> Yeah. I think it goes on the street

2350
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:35,600
December. So January um we would have to

2351
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:37,040
have that pinned down by then.

2352
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:39,440
>> So yeah, sure. Deadline.

2353
01:36:39,440 --> 01:36:41,440
>> So call January 1.

2354
01:36:41,440 --> 01:36:43,360
>> They're still fine. It's just they're so

2355
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:44,239
slow

2356
01:36:44,239 --> 01:36:45,840
>> and then around the holidays they get

2357
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:46,719
even

2358
01:36:46,719 --> 01:36:48,800
>> so the this is a typo. The bidding

2359
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:51,520
starts in January 27

2360
01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:52,880
>> 26

2361
01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:57,040
>> correct? It's 27 27 January 26

2362
01:36:57,040 --> 01:37:02,719
>> and then start off is March of 27.

2363
01:37:02,719 --> 01:37:04,800
>> Yep. So we actually corrected that but

2364
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:06,880
there was a typo we picked up that was

2365
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:09,040
on that.

2366
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:11,760
on your

2367
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:14,639
>> Can you move it forward one sec?

2368
01:37:14,639 --> 01:37:16,719
>> There you go.

2369
01:37:16,719 --> 01:37:18,000
>> We got it.

2370
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:20,320
>> That is corrected.

2371
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:21,760
It is outdated. That's

2372
01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:25,040
>> we turned it in on Friday or Thursday a

2373
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:27,199
Thursday at 12 and then didn't have a

2374
01:37:27,199 --> 01:37:29,119
chance to really proof it. Good Friday

2375
01:37:29,119 --> 01:37:31,199
and we picked that up. So, sorry about

2376
01:37:31,199 --> 01:37:31,520
that.

2377
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:34,639
>> Okay. So, trucks are digging holes in

2378
01:37:34,639 --> 01:37:39,440
the ground in March of 27.

2379
01:37:39,440 --> 01:37:42,719
We expect a a contractor uh contractor's

2380
01:37:42,719 --> 01:37:44,320
contract to be executed. Then there'll

2381
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:46,080
be a brief period of you know shop

2382
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:47,760
drying review and mobilization but it

2383
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:49,440
should be shortly after that. Yes,

2384
01:37:49,440 --> 01:37:54,097
>> probably April.

2385
01:37:54,107 --> 01:38:03,270
[clears throat]

2386
01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:07,280
» Any additional any other questions?

2387
01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:08,719
Thank you very much.

2388
01:38:08,719 --> 01:38:13,440
>> Thank you.

2389
01:38:13,440 --> 01:38:14,560
>> Appreciate your time.

2390
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:16,400
>> Yeah.

2391
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:26,149
>> Thank you.

2392
01:38:26,159 --> 01:38:27,840
» Are there any additional permits to be

2393
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:36,870
applied for? All

2394
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:39,280
right,

2395
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:43,233
>> we're moving on to Kevin award contracts

2396
01:38:43,233 --> 01:38:44,000
[snorts]

2397
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:53,910
water man replacement bay seven road.

2398
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:56,239
» So this is a continuation of our ongoing

2399
01:38:56,239 --> 01:38:59,600
water work. Um we had found recently we

2400
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:01,280
had some pipe that was in some very bad

2401
01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:02,480
condition there. So we're going to

2402
01:39:02,480 --> 01:39:04,719
replace it as well. We paid the road

2403
01:39:04,719 --> 01:39:07,199
included in this contract is an

2404
01:39:07,199 --> 01:39:09,600
alternate um where we're going to do

2405
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:12,239
another 1500 ft of water work down in

2406
01:39:12,239 --> 01:39:13,760
Humrock. So we're going to continue

2407
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:15,600
going down Central Avenue as part of our

2408
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:16,880
plan that we said we were going to

2409
01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:18,639
continue to do. So that'll that'll give

2410
01:39:18,639 --> 01:39:20,719
us about at the completion of that

2411
01:39:20,719 --> 01:39:24,560
probably 45 4600 feet of um of pipe.

2412
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:27,199
that number.

2413
01:39:27,199 --> 01:39:28,000
>> Thank you.

2414
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:31,760
>> So, um we went out the bid um had four

2415
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:37,040
biders and uh the low bid was uh soft

2416
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:39,199
>> and they done work for us before and you

2417
01:39:39,199 --> 01:39:40,960
check the references. So,

2418
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:42,719
>> we've we' be their references. They've

2419
01:39:42,719 --> 01:39:44,080
done they've done good work. We haven't

2420
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:46,560
had any issues. Um,

2421
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:49,600
we've also had uh

2422
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:54,000
CJP and RFS each dock and we've had good luck with all three of

2423
01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:55,199
them. So,

2424
01:39:55,199 --> 01:39:58,080
>> well, we like the cheapest. So, any

2425
01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:00,320
questions?

2426
01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:04,800
>> Uh, basic question in terms of that

2427
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:07,360
linear footage. How how far can give or

2428
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:09,360
take does that take us from the north

2429
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:15,270
end towards North Bridge?

2430
01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:17,920
» You know where I think it's Bat Road

2431
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:19,920
right down around there where that road

2432
01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:21,440
turns in there. I think it comes right

2433
01:40:21,440 --> 01:40:23,520
around that location. Yeah, this

2434
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:25,040
ballpark.

2435
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:27,280
Yeah.

2436
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:30,080
>> Any other any other questions? Are we

2437
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:32,719
ready for a motion?

2438
01:40:32,719 --> 01:40:35,600
>> Any questions in the audience? No. Move

2439
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:38,719
that the select board award water main

2440
01:40:38,719 --> 01:40:40,480
places the project to South Co

2441
01:40:40,480 --> 01:40:46,709
Construction Corp. for 2,484,497.

2442
01:40:46,719 --> 01:40:47,280
» Second.

2443
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:50,880
>> Moved by M. Scholes, seconded by Mr.

2444
01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:53,760
Gilmore. All in favor?

2445
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:54,400
>> Okay.

2446
01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:58,629
>> Thank you very much.

2447
01:40:58,639 --> 01:41:00,719
» Meeting here tomorrow

2448
01:41:00,719 --> 01:41:04,560
>> 800 Chief Justice Police Station.

2449
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:09,750
Seriously,

2450
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:16,390
» thank you.

2451
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:19,520
» All right. Next on the agenda, we have

2452
01:41:19,520 --> 01:41:21,280
um

2453
01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:23,840
a letter of support or Norwell reached

2454
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:27,280
out about a letter of support to wave um

2455
01:41:27,280 --> 01:41:29,360
down of pan on the building permit fees

2456
01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:32,400
for the new Sasha Rosak High School. Jim

2457
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:36,000
has some background on this, but um the

2458
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:39,920
Sashore Botech is charging um town of

2459
01:41:39,920 --> 01:41:42,880
Hanover is charging Sasha BK or

2460
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:45,679
attempting to charge 3.2 million permit

2461
01:41:45,679 --> 01:41:48,239
building permit fee for the municipal

2462
01:41:48,239 --> 01:41:52,800
school. Um traditionally not done in

2463
01:41:52,800 --> 01:41:54,960
municipal construction or town

2464
01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:57,760
construction. The Southshore Votech has

2465
01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:02,560
sent a letter um to the town of Hanover

2466
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:05,199
saying that this is like a big, you

2467
01:42:05,199 --> 01:42:07,199
know, a big difference in the budget, a

2468
01:42:07,199 --> 01:42:10,000
big um change and that it would impact

2469
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:13,440
not only all the member towns but also

2470
01:42:13,440 --> 01:42:14,960
Hannah

2471
01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:17,679
um and they've already paid I think

2472
01:42:17,679 --> 01:42:19,199
300,000

2473
01:42:19,199 --> 01:42:22,719
already. So, they've paid um what we

2474
01:42:22,719 --> 01:42:25,360
think what they think is a fair cost and

2475
01:42:25,360 --> 01:42:27,679
um I just wanted to bring it to the

2476
01:42:27,679 --> 01:42:30,000
board's attention that Norwell's asking

2477
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:32,000
us to,

2478
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:34,320
you know, protest it. I do think there's

2479
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:37,520
a mid um in between saying we're really

2480
01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:39,440
concerned. They haven't said for sure

2481
01:42:39,440 --> 01:42:42,560
they're charging them. Um but we are

2482
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:44,880
concerned because it's it would be an

2483
01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:48,960
additional how much to our budget? Three

2484
01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:50,560
million divided by

2485
01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:52,400
>> Yeah. I mean it's according to the the

2486
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:56,639
letter you guys had the letter that said

2487
01:42:56,639 --> 01:42:58,239
about one point they're estimated to be

2488
01:42:58,239 --> 01:43:01,280
an additional 1.7 million fees. We're

2489
01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:06,390
anywhere between seven and 11% of that

2490
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:09,199
vision of the project is that'll be true

2491
01:43:09,199 --> 01:43:11,119
up later.

2492
01:43:11,119 --> 01:43:16,400
So as I think student laid it out fairly

2493
01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:20,080
well really uh they have the letter from

2494
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:22,480
the vote they have not responded yet so

2495
01:43:22,480 --> 01:43:25,119
the town could wait give the town hand

2496
01:43:25,119 --> 01:43:26,960
over a chance to respond see what they

2497
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:29,040
say

2498
01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:30,880
up to you that's

2499
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:33,040
>> we are concerned though I mean I would

2500
01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:34,880
say I'm concerned if we have to pay more

2501
01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:35,600
money so

2502
01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:36,080
>> yep

2503
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:38,320
>> but I mean

2504
01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:41,440
>> I'm sure I I encourage you to read the

2505
01:43:41,440 --> 01:43:45,280
letter dating September 2nd from K law

2506
01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:47,840
to the town of town manager. It's very

2507
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:50,159
well written. There's a lot of precedent

2508
01:43:50,159 --> 01:43:52,800
cited in here. It seems like it's in

2509
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:55,520
order and I have no problem voting to

2510
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:57,119
support

2511
01:43:57,119 --> 01:43:59,119
those request.

2512
01:43:59,119 --> 01:44:01,119
>> Any other thoughts?

2513
01:44:01,119 --> 01:44:04,080
I would be in favor of sending letters

2514
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:08,000
supporting it as not just access

2515
01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:10,480
towns but I think the president is a bad

2516
01:44:10,480 --> 01:44:12,320
president. I think that I'm not

2517
01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:15,440
interested in having each of you pay

2518
01:44:15,440 --> 01:44:18,880
more budget for something that has never

2519
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:23,119
been done this way. But I also think now

2520
01:44:23,119 --> 01:44:24,800
understand giving them a chance. I'd

2521
01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:27,679
almost rather put it on record that this

2522
01:44:27,679 --> 01:44:29,840
is something that we don't support and

2523
01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:32,480
we don't see it happening prior to them

2524
01:44:32,480 --> 01:44:40,229
having a chance to

2525
01:44:40,239 --> 01:44:41,920
» we're talking about budgets and impact

2526
01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:44,320
on budgets. This because we did a debt

2527
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:46,880
exclusion on this does not impact our

2528
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:52,000
operating budget at all. It does impact

2529
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:56,480
taxes, right? It's not huge amount, but

2530
01:44:56,480 --> 01:44:58,639
it would have an impact on what tax

2531
01:44:58,639 --> 01:44:59,679
impact.

2532
01:44:59,679 --> 01:45:03,040
>> It wasn't it wasn't 3.6 billion per

2533
01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:05,920
town, right? That was the total

2534
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:10,880
>> letter from the vote tax be 1.7 million

2535
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:12,719
>> per town total.

2536
01:45:12,719 --> 01:45:15,040
>> Total

2537
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:17,119
>> because they've already paid some money.

2538
01:45:17,119 --> 01:45:18,719
>> Okay.

2539
01:45:18,719 --> 01:45:20,159
All right. Well, I'm happy to read a

2540
01:45:20,159 --> 01:45:20,719
motion.

2541
01:45:20,719 --> 01:45:22,719
>> Do you Andrew?

2542
01:45:22,719 --> 01:45:25,679
>> I mean, the number one obviously support

2543
01:45:25,679 --> 01:45:30,320
the tech school and whatever they really

2544
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:32,320
need. My only caution would be that

2545
01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:36,800
we're interjecting beforehand or

2546
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:38,639
technically has done anything. remember

2547
01:45:38,639 --> 01:45:40,639
as a board if we haven't sent letters to

2548
01:45:40,639 --> 01:45:42,960
other I know this is a little different

2549
01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:47,520
because it's it may or may not impact

2550
01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:50,159
I think part of us talking and and being

2551
01:45:50,159 --> 01:45:54,000
on the record where we are so however

2552
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:56,639
we're going to kind of respond

2553
01:45:56,639 --> 01:45:58,880
so that's all I just wanted that's just

2554
01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:02,159
something new I do it's totally support

2555
01:46:02,159 --> 01:46:04,400
>> what do you think for 20 days

2556
01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:06,480
>> I guess just listening now we need to be

2557
01:46:06,480 --> 01:46:08,719
taking a different tactic

2558
01:46:08,719 --> 01:46:11,920
The board could wait until handover

2559
01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:14,239
responds, but in the meantime, we could

2560
01:46:14,239 --> 01:46:17,199
just reach out and say we are concerned

2561
01:46:17,199 --> 01:46:18,880
about this and the impact that will have

2562
01:46:18,880 --> 01:46:23,040
on our taxpayers, but we are reserving a

2563
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:25,600
judgment until such time as you respond.

2564
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:26,400
So

2565
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:28,320
>> now, sure, I think it's also not just

2566
01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:29,760
the impact it's going to have on our

2567
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:33,840
tax. It's defending the president of a

2568
01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:36,560
town charging

2569
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:40,000
dormant fees for municipal construction.

2570
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:43,520
So it is president. It's not just our

2571
01:46:43,520 --> 01:46:46,790
tax.

2572
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:48,800
» Yeah. It's just just sets a different

2573
01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:50,000
tone. And so

2574
01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:52,239
>> I don't need the only there's not going

2575
01:46:52,239 --> 01:46:53,520
to be another one of these. We don't

2576
01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:55,520
have another multi- town project in a

2577
01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:57,520
town. We don't have anybody building

2578
01:46:57,520 --> 01:46:59,440
something here that belongs to another

2579
01:46:59,440 --> 01:47:01,199
town. Maybe we have

2580
01:47:01,199 --> 01:47:08,550
>> never

2581
01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:12,320
» but there's there's like three cases of

2582
01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:14,320
a lot of faith in the county pulling off

2583
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:17,440
a project like that. So it's not

2584
01:47:17,440 --> 01:47:19,280
something I'm worried about. Nor do I

2585
01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:21,360
think the desalinization plant would be

2586
01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:23,679
located here. We just don't have any

2587
01:47:23,679 --> 01:47:28,639
place on the coast to put it. Uh but you

2588
01:47:28,639 --> 01:47:31,600
know uh I think Andrew makes a point

2589
01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:32,719
they haven't done anything yet. They

2590
01:47:32,719 --> 01:47:35,280
just got the letter. It is technical.

2591
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:37,760
>> They got the letter for 20 days.

2592
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:40,960
>> Uh no it's really just got it.

2593
01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:42,880
>> The date

2594
01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:48,480
September second.

2595
01:47:48,480 --> 01:47:50,000
>> It's up to you guys.

2596
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:51,679
Can we just split the difference and say

2597
01:47:51,679 --> 01:47:54,159
we're concerned

2598
01:47:54,159 --> 01:47:56,480
>> and we're awaiting their decision?

2599
01:47:56,480 --> 01:47:58,080
>> Yeah, we're concerned about

2600
01:47:58,080 --> 01:47:58,560
>> that

2601
01:47:58,560 --> 01:47:59,920
>> the impact that will have on our

2602
01:47:59,920 --> 01:48:00,639
taxpayers.

2603
01:48:00,639 --> 01:48:02,159
>> Yeah, I mean

2604
01:48:02,159 --> 01:48:03,440
>> Okay,

2605
01:48:03,440 --> 01:48:05,199
>> we are concerned about it.

2606
01:48:05,199 --> 01:48:08,320
>> So, do we need a motion to cause them

2607
01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:09,360
more concern?

2608
01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:15,189
>> No, I think

2609
01:48:15,199 --> 01:48:17,040
» I'm

2610
01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:19,679
all concerned. journal.

2611
01:48:19,679 --> 01:48:24,080
>> All right. Um, now we got to do discuss

2612
01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:28,159
um special count meeting um for article

2613
01:48:28,159 --> 01:48:32,000
recommendations and consent agenda.

2614
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:34,800
Um Nancy,

2615
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:37,679
how do we do we want to do

2616
01:48:37,679 --> 01:48:40,080
how do we usually do this consent agenda

2617
01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:44,560
and then go some of these consent?

2618
01:48:44,560 --> 01:48:46,639
>> Yeah. Um, and you have the grid in front

2619
01:48:46,639 --> 01:48:48,960
of you. So, I don't know if the board

2620
01:48:48,960 --> 01:48:50,880
wants to,

2621
01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:53,360
uh, since you had a you had time to go

2622
01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:54,560
down and vote them.

2623
01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:55,760
>> Yeah. There's something that you want to

2624
01:48:55,760 --> 01:48:58,159
call out and discuss.

2625
01:48:58,159 --> 01:49:03,520
>> So, we have voted everything on a agenda

2626
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:06,239
item.

2627
01:49:06,239 --> 01:49:08,800
>> Um, you didn't vote legal budget.

2628
01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:11,360
>> We didn't vote capital plan. Oh, wait.

2629
01:49:11,360 --> 01:49:13,840
We didn't vote legal budget increase.

2630
01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:16,320
Okay. We didn't vote capital plan, legal

2631
01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:18,320
budget increase

2632
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:22,070
and

2633
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:24,719
» you voted article 12 and most of seven.

2634
01:49:24,719 --> 01:49:27,199
>> Okay. You want to do

2635
01:49:27,199 --> 01:49:28,719
>> legal budgeting? You want to just take

2636
01:49:28,719 --> 01:49:29,679
it from the top?

2637
01:49:29,679 --> 01:49:30,480
>> Sure.

2638
01:49:30,480 --> 01:49:32,480
>> Have we voted because we haven't voted

2639
01:49:32,480 --> 01:49:33,280
any of this stuff?

2640
01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:37,350
>> No.

2641
01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:38,159
» Why don't we vote?

2642
01:49:38,159 --> 01:49:39,840
>> Are the green ones on the consent

2643
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:40,639
agenda?

2644
01:49:40,639 --> 01:49:42,080
>> You have to decide what's on the consent

2645
01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:43,520
agenda.

2646
01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:46,560
This is this is NY's recommendation.

2647
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:51,360
>> Thinking there just be one at a time.

2648
01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:53,199
>> Works for me.

2649
01:49:53,199 --> 01:49:55,360
>> So just that way you don't miss it. So I

2650
01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:56,560
one two.

2651
01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:58,239
>> Yeah.

2652
01:49:58,239 --> 01:50:00,719
>> Capital plan. You might want to break

2653
01:50:00,719 --> 01:50:03,760
that into spread those out. So let's

2654
01:50:03,760 --> 01:50:08,709
start with prior year or unpaid bills.

2655
01:50:08,719 --> 01:50:11,679
» That So this is again on page 88.

2656
01:50:11,679 --> 01:50:16,310
>> Yes. And you have a new hard

2657
01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:20,000
» $14. Oh, we have a different copy.

2658
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:22,400
>> Um, council gave his final edits last

2659
01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:27,990
night. So, I ran you in one.

2660
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:31,199
» So, approved motion for the unpaid prior

2661
01:50:31,199 --> 01:50:32,719
bills of $74.

2662
01:50:32,719 --> 01:50:34,080
>> Okay. Moved by Mr.

2663
01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:36,159
>> and put on the consent agenda.

2664
01:50:36,159 --> 01:50:37,119
>> Uh, that would be separate.

2665
01:50:37,119 --> 01:50:39,520
>> We'll do that as separate. Move. Yes.

2666
01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:44,000
>> Move to approve the 714 of payrolls by

2667
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:47,600
Mr. Goodri. Second by um Miss Schwel.

2668
01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:53,830
All in favor? I

2669
01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:55,520
» Okay.

2670
01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:57,520
The budget reconciliations are just

2671
01:50:57,520 --> 01:50:59,280
putting the funds back that we got in

2672
01:50:59,280 --> 01:51:01,199
state aid to what was deferred from the

2673
01:51:01,199 --> 01:51:04,639
fiscal 27 budget for Oakers comp, buying

2674
01:51:04,639 --> 01:51:06,400
out the lease for widows walk that you

2675
01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:08,080
previously approved and doing a little

2676
01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:11,840
refresh up at the um clubhouse. And then

2677
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:14,080
it would also provide an additional

2678
01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:16,880
network administrator midy year that

2679
01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:18,239
would be funded from the enterprise

2680
01:51:18,239 --> 01:51:20,080
funds which to date have never paid

2681
01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:22,480
anything for the information technology

2682
01:51:22,480 --> 01:51:23,520
services.

2683
01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:27,199
>> Yeah. And this is um

2684
01:51:27,199 --> 01:51:30,480
with a new um with a new treatment plan

2685
01:51:30,480 --> 01:51:32,800
coming on with all the enterprise funds.

2686
01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:35,600
We just have a lot more technology. Um

2687
01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:39,679
and it's it's just such a need with

2688
01:51:39,679 --> 01:51:41,199
and it would come out of the enterprise

2689
01:51:41,199 --> 01:51:43,199
fund. It would this position would not

2690
01:51:43,199 --> 01:51:45,440
come out of our project. It would come

2691
01:51:45,440 --> 01:51:48,000
out of this specific

2692
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:49,280
>> with all the cyber attacks that have

2693
01:51:49,280 --> 01:51:50,159
happened.

2694
01:51:50,159 --> 01:51:52,000
>> Really good idea, especially and we're

2695
01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:54,800
bringing on systems that have more

2696
01:51:54,800 --> 01:51:55,760
technology.

2697
01:51:55,760 --> 01:51:58,080
>> The last two weeks you've had two public

2698
01:51:58,080 --> 01:52:01,032
school in Springfield was up for a week.

2699
01:52:01,032 --> 01:52:01,599
[clears throat]

2700
01:52:01,599 --> 01:52:03,679
Every town hall was shut down for a week

2701
01:52:03,679 --> 01:52:06,159
by cyber attacks. And then you go back

2702
01:52:06,159 --> 01:52:09,440
to East Bridgewater which uh was once

2703
01:52:09,440 --> 01:52:12,000
scammed basically out of over $400,000

2704
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:16,639
for a cyber spoofing attack. So wow.

2705
01:52:16,639 --> 01:52:19,119
>> So do we need a motion? Motion questions

2706
01:52:19,119 --> 01:52:24,159
on that motion to recommend article two

2707
01:52:24,159 --> 01:52:26,480
uh approve

2708
01:52:26,480 --> 01:52:29,920
article two as written by Mr. Second by

2709
01:52:29,920 --> 01:52:32,320
Mr. All in favor.

2710
01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:34,880
>> So that's unanimous as well.

2711
01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:38,480
Um, capital plan.

2712
01:52:38,480 --> 01:52:40,800
Do you want to split that one out?

2713
01:52:40,800 --> 01:52:42,000
>> Yeah, split it out.

2714
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:44,639
>> There's two items. There's the truck and

2715
01:52:44,639 --> 01:52:46,960
as a reminder, that was the truck that

2716
01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:51,119
was in an in a um accident and it will

2717
01:52:51,119 --> 01:52:55,679
this $57,000 is will be insurance.

2718
01:52:55,679 --> 01:52:57,840
>> No, we're paying for it and we're trying

2719
01:52:57,840 --> 01:52:59,599
to get insurance back. It's not covered

2720
01:52:59,599 --> 01:53:01,360
by insurance because the age of the

2721
01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:02,400
truck. Oh,

2722
01:53:02,400 --> 01:53:04,400
>> so we don't have replacement. And again,

2723
01:53:04,400 --> 01:53:07,920
the accident was not all of the time.

2724
01:53:07,920 --> 01:53:09,679
>> Okay. So, we're trying to get money.

2725
01:53:09,679 --> 01:53:12,000
>> We are trying to get some back.

2726
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:14,159
>> Was the driver insured?

2727
01:53:14,159 --> 01:53:16,320
>> Uh, no. They were shaken up. They were

2728
01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:17,920
transported. They

2729
01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:20,719
>> were they insured the person.

2730
01:53:20,719 --> 01:53:21,679
>> Yes.

2731
01:53:21,679 --> 01:53:24,320
>> But for a very low value truck.

2732
01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:25,760
>> Yeah. We're not going to get much. We

2733
01:53:25,760 --> 01:53:28,239
won't get the value. All right. I move

2734
01:53:28,239 --> 01:53:31,280
to approve the capital project of the

2735
01:53:31,280 --> 01:53:35,280
replacement of the F350.

2736
01:53:35,280 --> 01:53:36,000
Second.

2737
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:40,800
>> All right. Move second by. All in favor?

2738
01:53:40,800 --> 01:53:45,119
I. So the truck is unanimous by fo.

2739
01:53:45,119 --> 01:53:47,440
And then next we have the police

2740
01:53:47,440 --> 01:53:51,840
firearms and decision making training

2741
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:54,560
facility. This is

2742
01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:57,040
the facility that this is the exact same

2743
01:53:57,040 --> 01:54:00,239
thing, right? That did not pass last

2744
01:54:00,239 --> 01:54:03,040
meeting and it's just more money this

2745
01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:04,880
time. Is that correct?

2746
01:54:04,880 --> 01:54:07,840
>> Yeah. 62% of the vote last time.

2747
01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:10,000
>> Yeah, it it passed by a majority but not

2748
01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:12,320
enough for borrowing.

2749
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:15,520
>> 2/3 vote 60% but it didn't get 66 and

2750
01:54:15,520 --> 01:54:16,719
2/3. [clears throat]

2751
01:54:16,719 --> 01:54:19,520
>> And we're using 1.5

2752
01:54:19,520 --> 01:54:22,560
million of our free dash. Yes, rest will

2753
01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:23,520
be borrowed.

2754
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:27,599
>> How much cash do we have left?

2755
01:54:27,599 --> 01:54:29,599
>> After the FEMA hit

2756
01:54:29,599 --> 01:54:31,520
>> 3.7 million for the capital plan and

2757
01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:33,520
then a half a million held in reserve.

2758
01:54:33,520 --> 01:54:36,400
And there is one thing that um hasn't

2759
01:54:36,400 --> 01:54:38,639
been called out on this project is that

2760
01:54:38,639 --> 01:54:43,510
the contingency is five almost $500,000.

2761
01:54:43,520 --> 01:54:46,000
» So you're 2.7 million.

2762
01:54:46,000 --> 01:54:46,960
>> Yeah.

2763
01:54:46,960 --> 01:54:48,239
It's got it's got a huge

2764
01:54:48,239 --> 01:54:49,840
contingency on it

2765
01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:52,560
>> because construction costs or

2766
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:54,560
environmental or

2767
01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:57,760
>> I thought it was like

2768
01:54:57,760 --> 01:54:58,320
>> who design

2769
01:54:58,320 --> 01:54:59,760
>> prefab thing. No,

2770
01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:03,440
>> it it's a prefab thing but um Chief

2771
01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:05,599
Thompson has had lots of experience with

2772
01:55:05,599 --> 01:55:08,159
building things and with especially with

2773
01:55:08,159 --> 01:55:09,599
public safety building and he put a

2774
01:55:09,599 --> 01:55:11,440
healthy contingency in there. If you

2775
01:55:11,440 --> 01:55:14,000
want to reduce it, we can reduce it. But

2776
01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:15,920
there is a good possibility if they'd

2777
01:55:15,920 --> 01:55:17,679
ever use any of that contingency that

2778
01:55:17,679 --> 01:55:19,760
you're going to be um several

2779
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:22,560
hundred,000 under that amount.

2780
01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:26,800
>> Where's that budget for us to see?

2781
01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:33,830
>> Capital

2782
01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:38,870
that didn't change last.

2783
01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:40,239
» No, because that it's not part of the

2784
01:55:40,239 --> 01:55:42,480
capital plan anymore.

2785
01:55:42,480 --> 01:55:44,239
But I'll I'll get I'll send it to Sam

2786
01:55:44,239 --> 01:55:45,840
and he can put it up for you.

2787
01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:47,440
>> Okay.

2788
01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:50,000
I guess and then I asked about overtime

2789
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:52,480
because the argument for this is worth

2790
01:55:52,480 --> 01:55:54,560
saving money on overtime.

2791
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:56,480
>> What do we get for that?

2792
01:55:56,480 --> 01:56:00,560
>> It's $30,000 annually roughly in

2793
01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:01,199
overtime.

2794
01:56:01,199 --> 01:56:02,080
>> 340

2795
01:56:02,080 --> 01:56:03,199
>> 3240

2796
01:56:03,199 --> 01:56:06,239
>> just for the training.

2797
01:56:06,239 --> 01:56:08,239
>> That seems like a big swing. What's the

2798
01:56:08,239 --> 01:56:09,760
potential

2799
01:56:09,760 --> 01:56:12,880
of lending it out to other people

2800
01:56:12,880 --> 01:56:13,760
to other

2801
01:56:13,760 --> 01:56:15,199
>> the swing is because you don't know

2802
01:56:15,199 --> 01:56:17,760
who's available when. If you have a full

2803
01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:21,360
shift, someone can go to training while

2804
01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:23,360
they're on regular time. If you get

2805
01:56:23,360 --> 01:56:24,960
short-handed, then everybody's going

2806
01:56:24,960 --> 01:56:30,320
over time. So really that that kind of

2807
01:56:30,320 --> 01:56:32,159
details some of that Why people go

2808
01:56:32,159 --> 01:56:35,119
how they're available to $40,000 a year.

2809
01:56:35,119 --> 01:56:37,280
You know again this is this is about

2810
01:56:37,280 --> 01:56:39,280
training availability for training the

2811
01:56:39,280 --> 01:56:41,280
ability to have facilities.

2812
01:56:41,280 --> 01:56:45,199
>> We are running out of places to train.

2813
01:56:45,199 --> 01:56:47,360
>> Yeah. I guess what have we done? What

2814
01:56:47,360 --> 01:56:51,440
have we done since the failed vote

2815
01:56:51,440 --> 01:56:53,440
between now and then besides add money

2816
01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:55,360
to this

2817
01:56:55,360 --> 01:56:56,639
>> in regards to

2818
01:56:56,639 --> 01:56:58,480
>> I don't know like any of the concerns

2819
01:56:58,480 --> 01:56:59,840
raised

2820
01:56:59,840 --> 01:57:02,000
>> well

2821
01:57:02,000 --> 01:57:03,840
>> one of the concerns raised was had we

2822
01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:05,520
reached out to other communities to help

2823
01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:07,280
us and that's what they had done for the

2824
01:57:07,280 --> 01:57:08,560
first couple of years that this was on

2825
01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:12,239
the plan and everyone wants to be a

2826
01:57:12,239 --> 01:57:14,239
party to using it but nobody has the

2827
01:57:14,239 --> 01:57:17,040
money to put up for capital. No, we

2828
01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:18,000
don't have the money either.

2829
01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:21,990
>> Yeah, we don't have the money either.

2830
01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:23,679
So, I didn't have money when we before

2831
01:57:23,679 --> 01:57:25,520
you. So, we we do have the money to do

2832
01:57:25,520 --> 01:57:26,719
it this year.

2833
01:57:26,719 --> 01:57:29,840
>> And Seth, I sent you that spreadsheet.

2834
01:57:29,840 --> 01:57:31,040
>> Got it.

2835
01:57:31,040 --> 01:57:33,440
>> But does this okay if we don't spend

2836
01:57:33,440 --> 01:57:38,159
this money that we have and it's in

2837
01:57:38,159 --> 01:57:41,119
free cash, right? Like free cash. Free

2838
01:57:41,119 --> 01:57:42,560
cash stays there. So,

2839
01:57:42,560 --> 01:57:45,040
>> but it can go to stabilize certain

2840
01:57:45,040 --> 01:57:46,480
things.

2841
01:57:46,480 --> 01:57:48,560
if needed, right? Like if we needed more

2842
01:57:48,560 --> 01:57:50,560
money for gas and there wasn't

2843
01:57:50,560 --> 01:57:53,440
>> Yeah. I mean, we save say we reserve at

2844
01:57:53,440 --> 01:57:55,199
least half a million dollars of free

2845
01:57:55,199 --> 01:57:57,360
cash

2846
01:57:57,360 --> 01:57:59,520
from capital. So half million that Nancy

2847
01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:02,400
and I do not put anywhere at the end of

2848
01:58:02,400 --> 01:58:04,560
our budget recommendations in case

2849
01:58:04,560 --> 01:58:07,360
something like that.

2850
01:58:07,360 --> 01:58:10,000
>> Yeah. So this is

2851
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:12,880
>> so it just it wouldn't get spent unless

2852
01:58:12,880 --> 01:58:17,920
something really bad came up and then it

2853
01:58:17,920 --> 01:58:19,599
>> well it already cash

2854
01:58:19,599 --> 01:58:22,480
>> we had $3.1 million FEMA disaster hit us

2855
01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:24,400
and we still managed to pull this out

2856
01:58:24,400 --> 01:58:26,960
and still have money for this. So I

2857
01:58:26,960 --> 01:58:28,239
would say we already had a big curve

2858
01:58:28,239 --> 01:58:30,560
ball and still managed to weather fiscal

2859
01:58:30,560 --> 01:58:30,960
management

2860
01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:32,239
>> or how are we doing on the FEMA

2861
01:58:32,239 --> 01:58:35,440
deadlines for October?

2862
01:58:35,440 --> 01:58:37,360
>> Um good. I think uh

2863
01:58:37,360 --> 01:58:38,560
>> they're going to take more money if we

2864
01:58:38,560 --> 01:58:38,880
don't

2865
01:58:38,880 --> 01:58:40,480
>> Kevin gave marching orders to the

2866
01:58:40,480 --> 01:58:41,920
consultants. The question is was

2867
01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:43,760
unminded about the amount of rock that

2868
01:58:43,760 --> 01:58:47,119
FEMA is going to reimburse for and we

2869
01:58:47,119 --> 01:58:48,480
just said whatever FEMA is going to

2870
01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:49,920
reimburse us for that's what we're going

2871
01:58:49,920 --> 01:58:51,840
to put in. So change it get in there. So

2872
01:58:51,840 --> 01:58:52,880
I think we'll be okay in those

2873
01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:55,440
deadlines. We'll buy it. Could you have

2874
01:58:55,440 --> 01:58:56,239
a neighbor?

2875
01:58:56,239 --> 01:59:00,480
>> I I guess I'm just concerned

2876
01:59:00,480 --> 01:59:03,360
1.5 million.

2877
01:59:03,360 --> 01:59:06,239
I've never

2878
01:59:06,239 --> 01:59:09,440
This is a priority. I don't see anyone

2879
01:59:09,440 --> 01:59:12,719
from local PD here. And all the time

2880
01:59:12,719 --> 01:59:14,239
I've never had any reject to me and say

2881
01:59:14,239 --> 01:59:16,159
that this is important.

2882
01:59:16,159 --> 01:59:17,920
Not once.

2883
01:59:17,920 --> 01:59:19,520
There's no one here to support it. And

2884
01:59:19,520 --> 01:59:23,280
it's 1.5 million. I've got a million.

2885
01:59:23,280 --> 01:59:26,320
I've got I've got hundreds of emails

2886
01:59:26,320 --> 01:59:29,360
people asking for sidewalks,

2887
01:59:29,360 --> 01:59:30,880
but we're not going to build an inch of

2888
01:59:30,880 --> 01:59:33,920
a new sidewalk

2889
01:59:33,920 --> 01:59:36,880
um or fix potholes

2890
01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:38,080
because we're not we're going to lose

2891
01:59:38,080 --> 01:59:39,599
money some other place. I guess I'm just

2892
01:59:39,599 --> 01:59:44,229
really concerned between

2893
01:59:44,239 --> 01:59:46,560
if this is really need or not. I don't

2894
01:59:46,560 --> 01:59:48,960
it hasn't been

2895
01:59:48,960 --> 01:59:50,480
expressed to me that this is a major

2896
01:59:50,480 --> 01:59:52,159
concern and is it going to get us closer

2897
01:59:52,159 --> 01:59:53,840
to what I always thought that we're

2898
01:59:53,840 --> 01:59:55,920
still down short. I know it's different

2899
01:59:55,920 --> 02:00:01,189
buckets. We're down and short officers

2900
02:00:01,199 --> 02:00:03,679
and I I still don't have enough on

2901
02:00:03,679 --> 02:00:07,199
exactly who's building it. Just

2902
02:00:07,199 --> 02:00:10,480
>> it's a convex. It's a prefab

2903
02:00:10,480 --> 02:00:14,000
uh box that they come and drop on um a

2904
02:00:14,000 --> 02:00:16,159
concrete pad. Now, Chief Thompson would

2905
02:00:16,159 --> 02:00:17,920
have been here tonight. We just didn't

2906
02:00:17,920 --> 02:00:19,840
tell him that this was going to be on

2907
02:00:19,840 --> 02:00:22,480
the agenda tonight. He was at Capitol.

2908
02:00:22,480 --> 02:00:26,000
>> It's a $2.7 million project. We're not

2909
02:00:26,000 --> 02:00:28,880
building of a new sidewalk. We have a

2910
02:00:28,880 --> 02:00:30,960
whole committee dedicated to new

2911
02:00:30,960 --> 02:00:32,880
sidewalks.

2912
02:00:32,880 --> 02:00:34,080
>> And you have a capital planning

2913
02:00:34,080 --> 02:00:35,520
committee that recommended this to you

2914
02:00:35,520 --> 02:00:37,199
two years in a row.

2915
02:00:37,199 --> 02:00:39,199
>> Yeah. And and the voters just rejected

2916
02:00:39,199 --> 02:00:41,440
it.

2917
02:00:41,440 --> 02:00:43,360
>> The town voted a majority of it. It had

2918
02:00:43,360 --> 02:00:45,840
it been a free cash, it would have it'd

2919
02:00:45,840 --> 02:00:47,679
be done now.

2920
02:00:47,679 --> 02:00:50,000
>> Oh, so we put it free cash so it only

2921
02:00:50,000 --> 02:00:50,800
needs money.

2922
02:00:50,800 --> 02:00:53,040
>> No, it still needed two.

2923
02:00:53,040 --> 02:00:55,199
>> We weren't going to dedicate 2.7 million

2924
02:00:55,199 --> 02:00:57,360
for it.

2925
02:00:57,360 --> 02:00:59,280
>> We could switch the article to borrowing

2926
02:00:59,280 --> 02:01:01,520
and free up that free cash for something

2927
02:01:01,520 --> 02:01:02,320
else.

2928
02:01:02,320 --> 02:01:04,000
>> You can take the contingency out of it.

2929
02:01:04,000 --> 02:01:04,960
It's on the screen.

2930
02:01:04,960 --> 02:01:06,320
>> Is not here because the board approved

2931
02:01:06,320 --> 02:01:11,040
this 4 to one in the spring. So may help

2932
02:01:11,040 --> 02:01:12,560
on me. I didn't think the board had

2933
02:01:12,560 --> 02:01:14,000
changed its support on this.

2934
02:01:14,000 --> 02:01:16,639
>> Well, we $3 million, I mean, things have

2935
02:01:16,639 --> 02:01:19,520
changed. Um, yes, but the chief of

2936
02:01:19,520 --> 02:01:21,520
police's endorsement of this and his

2937
02:01:21,520 --> 02:01:24,239
professional request for this and his

2938
02:01:24,239 --> 02:01:26,639
foresight, we trust him to run the damn

2939
02:01:26,639 --> 02:01:29,040
department and he does an excellent job.

2940
02:01:29,040 --> 02:01:30,880
So, why would we question his veracity

2941
02:01:30,880 --> 02:01:33,679
now when we voted for it already part

2942
02:01:33,679 --> 02:01:36,320
two? Just because it just because it

2943
02:01:36,320 --> 02:01:39,440
didn't get to 66%.

2944
02:01:39,440 --> 02:01:43,679
We have to revisit the Yeah. Because the in my humble opinion is that

2945
02:01:43,679 --> 02:01:46,000
a the vote they they had an opportunity

2946
02:01:46,000 --> 02:01:48,880
to pass it and it failed. It failed.

2947
02:01:48,880 --> 02:01:50,159
Right. We're talking about today because

2948
02:01:50,159 --> 02:01:53,360
it failed. Two, we've lost $3 million

2949
02:01:53,360 --> 02:01:56,800
from FEMA. So, the world has changed. We

2950
02:01:56,800 --> 02:01:58,560
have expenses that are going up and I'm

2951
02:01:58,560 --> 02:02:00,080
getting more and more nerves between

2952
02:02:00,080 --> 02:02:05,040
exactly from again needs and wants.

2953
02:02:05,040 --> 02:02:07,760
We've lived so many years without this

2954
02:02:07,760 --> 02:02:10,080
sort of a training could go another year

2955
02:02:10,080 --> 02:02:12,639
and I understand that if this fails at

2956
02:02:12,639 --> 02:02:17,360
this time you didn't hear we just keep trying to get it again.

2957
02:02:17,360 --> 02:02:19,599
>> It's not on your plan by the way. Could

2958
02:02:19,599 --> 02:02:20,960
we put this in it? Can we wait till

2959
02:02:20,960 --> 02:02:23,520
April to do this? We took it off the

2960
02:02:23,520 --> 02:02:26,719
plan and brought it back in the in the

2961
02:02:26,719 --> 02:02:28,800
spring. We can stick it back on the plan

2962
02:02:28,800 --> 02:02:30,080
and the price is just going to keep

2963
02:02:30,080 --> 02:02:31,040
going up.

2964
02:02:31,040 --> 02:02:32,639
>> Everything I know that's why I wanted to

2965
02:02:32,639 --> 02:02:34,480
build sidewalks six years ago and we

2966
02:02:34,480 --> 02:02:38,320
haven't built a foot of new sidewalks,

2967
02:02:38,320 --> 02:02:40,320
but we're going to build a box for $2.7

2968
02:02:40,320 --> 02:02:40,880
million.

2969
02:02:40,880 --> 02:02:42,000
>> We're actually going to improve the

2970
02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:44,239
training of our officers and God help us

2971
02:02:44,239 --> 02:02:45,920
in case something goes wrong and our

2972
02:02:45,920 --> 02:02:47,199
training isn't up to

2973
02:02:47,199 --> 02:02:48,480
>> I would disagree. Okay.

2974
02:02:48,480 --> 02:02:50,800
>> I would say that our officers are

2975
02:02:50,800 --> 02:02:52,159
they're getting the training. They're

2976
02:02:52,159 --> 02:02:53,679
just not getting it conveniently.

2977
02:02:53,679 --> 02:02:54,960
>> They're not getting this level of

2978
02:02:54,960 --> 02:02:56,480
training. So, I understand

2979
02:02:56,480 --> 02:02:59,280
>> they are training at a facility that's

2980
02:02:59,280 --> 02:03:01,520
not in our town. Correct. They're doing

2981
02:03:01,520 --> 02:03:04,560
tactical training. They have to qualify.

2982
02:03:04,560 --> 02:03:05,679
>> They're doing minimum.

2983
02:03:05,679 --> 02:03:06,960
>> They're doing the minimum training

2984
02:03:06,960 --> 02:03:08,239
required by law

2985
02:03:08,239 --> 02:03:09,520
>> that every other place

2986
02:03:09,520 --> 02:03:10,960
>> every other department does. This would

2987
02:03:10,960 --> 02:03:12,719
be advanced training beyond what we can

2988
02:03:12,719 --> 02:03:14,639
do at an outdoor shooting range.

2989
02:03:14,639 --> 02:03:16,400
>> Correct. Is there any other town in

2990
02:03:16,400 --> 02:03:18,400
Massachusetts that has this train?

2991
02:03:18,400 --> 02:03:20,400
>> Ashland has one of these units.

2992
02:03:20,400 --> 02:03:21,440
>> Ashland.

2993
02:03:21,440 --> 02:03:22,719
>> There's another town that is putting

2994
02:03:22,719 --> 02:03:24,639
one. We could find out the is putting

2995
02:03:24,639 --> 02:03:28,870
one in as part of new station.

2996
02:03:28,880 --> 02:03:32,800
» No, no, no. Boston, no big cities.

2997
02:03:32,800 --> 02:03:34,000
They're

2998
02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:36,320
>> they have firing ranges as part of their

2999
02:03:36,320 --> 02:03:37,760
facilities.

3000
02:03:37,760 --> 02:03:40,000
>> We had one in the old one. Boston has it

3001
02:03:40,000 --> 02:03:42,080
own firing range.

3002
02:03:42,080 --> 02:03:46,470
Boston people don't complain about it.

3003
02:03:46,480 --> 02:03:51,360
I I feel I understand the concerns and I would agree with the concept that

3004
02:03:51,360 --> 02:03:53,440
yes, things have changed. We're we're in

3005
02:03:53,440 --> 02:03:55,440
a discussion of of a lot of budget

3006
02:03:55,440 --> 02:03:57,119
considerations that we didn't have this

3007
02:03:57,119 --> 02:04:00,400
time last year, but

3008
02:04:00,400 --> 02:04:04,320
free cash doesn't solve for an override.

3009
02:04:04,320 --> 02:04:06,719
Free cash doesn't solve for some of the

3010
02:04:06,719 --> 02:04:08,159
other budget considerations we're going

3011
02:04:08,159 --> 02:04:12,560
to have. My I support this as much now

3012
02:04:12,560 --> 02:04:16,400
as I supported it in April. My concern

3013
02:04:16,400 --> 02:04:19,840
is that if we push this to April, if we

3014
02:04:19,840 --> 02:04:22,239
have to have a override discussion on

3015
02:04:22,239 --> 02:04:24,639
the war in April,

3016
02:04:24,639 --> 02:04:26,719
if we think that it's going to have

3017
02:04:26,719 --> 02:04:29,199
challenges in October, there's just no

3018
02:04:29,199 --> 02:04:30,639
way that it's going to be successful in

3019
02:04:30,639 --> 02:04:32,000
April. We're talking about pushing in at

3020
02:04:32,000 --> 02:04:35,360
least a whole year or more. Bitcoin

3021
02:04:35,360 --> 02:04:38,800
$200,000 in six months,

3022
02:04:38,800 --> 02:04:41,679
>> right? That's precisely my problem is

3023
02:04:41,679 --> 02:04:43,840
that if it's not if it's not gonna pass

3024
02:04:43,840 --> 02:04:46,080
in April, we think it's like we're

3025
02:04:46,080 --> 02:04:49,040
trying to sneak an end

3026
02:04:49,040 --> 02:04:50,159
of it.

3027
02:04:50,159 --> 02:04:52,080
>> I'm simply talking about the No, I'm

3028
02:04:52,080 --> 02:04:54,320
actually talking simply about the you've

3029
02:04:54,320 --> 02:04:55,920
actually talked to me about this before.

3030
02:04:55,920 --> 02:04:58,000
The idea it's not sneaking anything.

3031
02:04:58,000 --> 02:05:00,639
It's about literally trying to overload

3032
02:05:00,639 --> 02:05:03,440
a warrant with financial considerations

3033
02:05:03,440 --> 02:05:04,560
in one meeting.

3034
02:05:04,560 --> 02:05:07,280
>> We have financial considerations now. We

3035
02:05:07,280 --> 02:05:10,000
know what we're looking at. So, I don't

3036
02:05:10,000 --> 02:05:12,080
see why we need to spend money on

3037
02:05:12,080 --> 02:05:14,159
something that we don't desperately

3038
02:05:14,159 --> 02:05:17,840
need. We don't desperately need this. We

3039
02:05:17,840 --> 02:05:20,000
definitely need seaw walls. We

3040
02:05:20,000 --> 02:05:23,920
definitely need gasoline in our truck to

3041
02:05:23,920 --> 02:05:25,440
plow streets. There's things you

3042
02:05:25,440 --> 02:05:28,320
definitely need and we don't

3043
02:05:28,320 --> 02:05:30,719
I don't know. Let's just vote. Let's

3044
02:05:30,719 --> 02:05:31,920
vote on it.

3045
02:05:31,920 --> 02:05:34,159
>> If we vote on it and vote it down, how

3046
02:05:34,159 --> 02:05:36,800
does that the perception

3047
02:05:36,800 --> 02:05:40,000
or do we do we vote to can we postpone

3048
02:05:40,000 --> 02:05:43,360
it or do we just vote to not recommend

3049
02:05:43,360 --> 02:05:44,960
it?

3050
02:05:44,960 --> 02:05:47,360
>> I mean, deserve to

3051
02:05:47,360 --> 02:05:49,920
>> I don't even know if

3052
02:05:49,920 --> 02:05:51,840
>> it's it's you voted this article onto

3053
02:05:51,840 --> 02:05:54,480
the warrant. You don't have to vote to

3054
02:05:54,480 --> 02:05:57,199
recommend it. And the capital planning's

3055
02:05:57,199 --> 02:05:59,280
recommendation to you for the dollar

3056
02:05:59,280 --> 02:06:02,159
amount, you can change it.

3057
02:06:02,159 --> 02:06:05,040
So if you wanted if you wanted to take

3058
02:06:05,040 --> 02:06:08,320
the contingency out or cut it in half,

3059
02:06:08,320 --> 02:06:09,920
that's something you could do. If you

3060
02:06:09,920 --> 02:06:11,840
wanted to move the project forward, if

3061
02:06:11,840 --> 02:06:13,440
you want to just vote vote against it,

3062
02:06:13,440 --> 02:06:15,920
you can vote against it. And and that's

3063
02:06:15,920 --> 02:06:17,360
your recommendation at town meeting.

3064
02:06:17,360 --> 02:06:18,639
That's within your perview.

3065
02:06:18,639 --> 02:06:21,040
>> A large contingency for reasons that we

3066
02:06:21,040 --> 02:06:22,560
don't have tonight. from one of the

3067
02:06:22,560 --> 02:06:24,400
trust chief and other people that put

3068
02:06:24,400 --> 02:06:25,840
this together. They want a large

3069
02:06:25,840 --> 02:06:28,000
contingency. To me, a large contingency

3070
02:06:28,000 --> 02:06:30,239
to me means that we can explain the

3071
02:06:30,239 --> 02:06:31,679
meeting when we're talking about this

3072
02:06:31,679 --> 02:06:34,159
that it should

3073
02:06:34,159 --> 02:06:36,480
because construction it shouldn't really

3074
02:06:36,480 --> 02:06:38,560
have a large contingency. That money

3075
02:06:38,560 --> 02:06:43,030
should very

3076
02:06:43,040 --> 02:06:44,880
I don't think

3077
02:06:44,880 --> 02:06:46,480
anything. In fact, if anything, it gives

3078
02:06:46,480 --> 02:06:50,532
us a good point.

3079
02:06:50,532 --> 02:06:51,440
>> [laughter]

3080
02:06:51,440 --> 02:06:57,109
>> I'm not I don't like

3081
02:06:57,119 --> 02:06:59,440
» I would argue it's actually the opposite

3082
02:06:59,440 --> 02:07:01,040
because it was kind of sitting out here

3083
02:07:01,040 --> 02:07:05,920
by itself opposed to being buried on 25.

3084
02:07:05,920 --> 02:07:07,760
>> Everybody else got the message on

3085
02:07:07,760 --> 02:07:09,520
capital improvement that it's a tough

3086
02:07:09,520 --> 02:07:11,440
area except for the police department is

3087
02:07:11,440 --> 02:07:14,560
what it says.

3088
02:07:14,560 --> 02:07:16,239
>> That's

3089
02:07:16,239 --> 02:07:18,239
don't agree with you. I don't I don't

3090
02:07:18,239 --> 02:07:20,719
think that's a fair characterization.

3091
02:07:20,719 --> 02:07:22,079
>> I think that's what it looks like.

3092
02:07:22,079 --> 02:07:24,560
>> We recommended I recommended that it be

3093
02:07:24,560 --> 02:07:26,800
put on the special need to put on the

3094
02:07:26,800 --> 02:07:31,199
special. Here it is.

3095
02:07:31,199 --> 02:07:32,880
>> We wanted this.

3096
02:07:32,880 --> 02:07:35,360
>> We didn't put it on. We heard.

3097
02:07:35,360 --> 02:07:37,040
>> Yeah, we did.

3098
02:07:37,040 --> 02:07:39,199
>> Yes, we did.

3099
02:07:39,199 --> 02:07:41,280
>> So, the board had not wanted to do it.

3100
02:07:41,280 --> 02:07:43,280
We We would have taken off and be part

3101
02:07:43,280 --> 02:07:44,960
of the regular capital because we voted

3102
02:07:44,960 --> 02:07:47,440
to put it on here. Nancy and I removed

3103
02:07:47,440 --> 02:07:48,960
it from the capital budget for next

3104
02:07:48,960 --> 02:07:50,079
spring because we're not going to have

3105
02:07:50,079 --> 02:07:52,480
us two places. As we said, if it fails

3106
02:07:52,480 --> 02:07:54,480
at this time meeting, I'm not bringing

3107
02:07:54,480 --> 02:07:58,719
it back in spring. It's not

3108
02:07:58,719 --> 02:08:01,840
again I think not desperately needed

3109
02:08:01,840 --> 02:08:03,360
now.

3110
02:08:03,360 --> 02:08:05,360
Yeah, if we don't build it tomorrow

3111
02:08:05,360 --> 02:08:07,040
desperately needed, no. Are we going to

3112
02:08:07,040 --> 02:08:08,800
wait till it's desperately needed or

3113
02:08:08,800 --> 02:08:11,679
until God wish we had it?

3114
02:08:11,679 --> 02:08:14,480
>> We waited to definitely treat plant for

3115
02:08:14,480 --> 02:08:15,760
five extra years. I don't think you

3116
02:08:15,760 --> 02:08:18,870
want.

3117
02:08:18,880 --> 02:08:20,079
» Well, I keep coming.

3118
02:08:20,079 --> 02:08:23,199
>> If if we need tactical

3119
02:08:23,199 --> 02:08:25,920
training more than we need clean water,

3120
02:08:25,920 --> 02:08:27,679
then I don't think that anything.

3121
02:08:27,679 --> 02:08:29,119
>> I think that's a confirmed. I don't know

3122
02:08:29,119 --> 02:08:30,480
why. I

3123
02:08:30,480 --> 02:08:32,400
>> don't think

3124
02:08:32,400 --> 02:08:34,639
I mean I guess we got

3125
02:08:34,639 --> 02:08:36,880
>> somebody make a motion to somebody.

3126
02:08:36,880 --> 02:08:38,800
>> I think Nico's point is the water

3127
02:08:38,800 --> 02:08:40,960
treatment plant should have been done

3128
02:08:40,960 --> 02:08:44,480
>> 20 years ago. Yes. Significant less than

3129
02:08:44,480 --> 02:08:45,599
we're paying for it now.

3130
02:08:45,599 --> 02:08:46,320
>> Absolutely.

3131
02:08:46,320 --> 02:08:47,920
>> And the town at the time kept putting it

3132
02:08:47,920 --> 02:08:49,040
off, putting it off, and then all a

3133
02:08:49,040 --> 02:08:50,159
sudden

3134
02:08:50,159 --> 02:08:51,920
>> 50 years this town didn't do anything

3135
02:08:51,920 --> 02:08:53,679
for any of us.

3136
02:08:53,679 --> 02:08:55,440
>> 50 years.

3137
02:08:55,440 --> 02:08:55,920
>> Okay.

3138
02:08:55,920 --> 02:08:58,480
>> All right. Motion. I will hear a motion.

3139
02:08:58,480 --> 02:09:01,280
Anyone?

3140
02:09:01,280 --> 02:09:03,119
>> This is article three capital

3141
02:09:03,119 --> 02:09:05,520
improvement a police firearms and

3142
02:09:05,520 --> 02:09:09,040
decision making training facility. I

3143
02:09:09,040 --> 02:09:11,440
move to support the police firearms and

3144
02:09:11,440 --> 02:09:13,599
making training facility in article 3

3145
02:09:13,599 --> 02:09:19,830
capital improvement plan A for 2,730,650

3146
02:09:19,840 --> 02:09:22,400
cash 1.53 million and

3147
02:09:22,400 --> 02:09:25,679
>> moved by Dr. Flanko

3148
02:09:25,679 --> 02:09:30,800
>> second by Mr. for Gilmore. All in favor?

3149
02:09:30,800 --> 02:09:33,199
>> I.

3150
02:09:33,199 --> 02:09:34,480
>> All opposed?

3151
02:09:34,480 --> 02:09:36,400
>> No.

3152
02:09:36,400 --> 02:09:41,350
So, you got to do three.

3153
02:09:41,360 --> 02:09:43,679
» All right.

3154
02:09:43,679 --> 02:09:47,040
Next one

3155
02:09:47,040 --> 02:09:47,520
>> is

3156
02:09:47,520 --> 02:09:51,760
>> next is transfers to reserves.

3157
02:09:51,760 --> 02:09:54,639
>> And this is um bringing your sped

3158
02:09:54,639 --> 02:09:57,199
reserve up from 50%.

3159
02:09:57,199 --> 02:10:00,079
um bringing your capitalization fund up

3160
02:10:00,079 --> 02:10:02,320
to us acquired under reserve policy 5

3161
02:10:02,320 --> 02:10:04,960
and then the rest is just uh enterprise

3162
02:10:04,960 --> 02:10:07,520
funds prefounding oped.

3163
02:10:07,520 --> 02:10:18,310
>> Okay. Any questions on this funding?

3164
02:10:18,320 --> 02:10:21,760
» Do we have a motion

3165
02:10:21,760 --> 02:10:25,599
article transfers to reserves? Moved by

3166
02:10:25,599 --> 02:10:28,400
M. Flego, second by Dr. Koseno. All in

3167
02:10:28,400 --> 02:10:29,520
favor?

3168
02:10:29,520 --> 02:10:32,719
>> I 50

3169
02:10:32,719 --> 02:10:34,800
>> fund FEMA deficits.

3170
02:10:34,800 --> 02:10:36,719
>> So this would pay down the note we were

3171
02:10:36,719 --> 02:10:41,760
forced to issue um in July. 500,000

3172
02:10:41,760 --> 02:10:43,679
would come from free cash because that's

3173
02:10:43,679 --> 02:10:46,000
the portion that we will never recover.

3174
02:10:46,000 --> 02:10:48,400
And then 1.9 million is proposed from

3175
02:10:48,400 --> 02:10:51,119
the stabilization fund because we should

3176
02:10:51,119 --> 02:10:54,079
recover approximately 1.9 million. And

3177
02:10:54,079 --> 02:10:56,719
the article notates that when those

3178
02:10:56,719 --> 02:10:58,400
proceeds come in, they should be

3179
02:10:58,400 --> 02:10:59,840
transferred back to the stabilization

3180
02:10:59,840 --> 02:11:02,960
fund to replenish it.

3181
02:11:02,960 --> 02:11:05,679
>> Any questions on this one?

3182
02:11:05,679 --> 02:11:07,760
>> We tried to require that they would go

3183
02:11:07,760 --> 02:11:10,000
directly back to the stabilization. We

3184
02:11:10,000 --> 02:11:12,159
can't

3185
02:11:12,159 --> 02:11:14,639
>> but we're directing ourselves.

3186
02:11:14,639 --> 02:11:16,239
>> So they'll end up going to your free

3187
02:11:16,239 --> 02:11:18,079
cash and then you identify that portion

3188
02:11:18,079 --> 02:11:20,159
of it move

3189
02:11:20,159 --> 02:11:23,840
>> which we just saves a step. Yeah. And

3190
02:11:23,840 --> 02:11:25,599
we're making it clear what it is to

3191
02:11:25,599 --> 02:11:28,239
happen.

3192
02:11:28,239 --> 02:11:29,520
>> Yeah. I mean, we would have to go to

3193
02:11:29,520 --> 02:11:30,480
town meeting.

3194
02:11:30,480 --> 02:11:33,040
>> We will town council. Town council blow

3195
02:11:33,040 --> 02:11:34,079
a hole in it.

3196
02:11:34,079 --> 02:11:36,159
>> Dang it. But that's what it was. All

3197
02:11:36,159 --> 02:11:36,480
right.

3198
02:11:36,480 --> 02:11:38,320
>> We would hope to do that, but that's

3199
02:11:38,320 --> 02:11:39,599
going to just be a transfer April

3200
02:11:39,599 --> 02:11:40,239
essentially.

3201
02:11:40,239 --> 02:11:42,079
>> Yeah. But then also saying what we meant

3202
02:11:42,079 --> 02:11:43,280
to do about it.

3203
02:11:43,280 --> 02:11:48,320
>> Okay. Any other questions besides

3204
02:11:48,320 --> 02:11:50,719
that? Um, do you have a motion

3205
02:11:50,719 --> 02:11:54,000
>> for by FEMA deficit?

3206
02:11:54,000 --> 02:11:54,880
>> Second.

3207
02:11:54,880 --> 02:11:58,480
>> Moved by MGO, second by Dr. All in

3208
02:11:58,480 --> 02:12:00,079
favor.

3209
02:12:00,079 --> 02:12:01,920
Unanimous.

3210
02:12:01,920 --> 02:12:03,119
>> Um,

3211
02:12:03,119 --> 02:12:04,560
>> uh, the transfers between capital

3212
02:12:04,560 --> 02:12:07,360
projects is really easy.

3213
02:12:07,360 --> 02:12:10,480
The Watuck project, one of them is uh,

3214
02:12:10,480 --> 02:12:12,000
run into all kinds of unforeseen

3215
02:12:12,000 --> 02:12:14,159
conditions. They're just asking to sweep

3216
02:12:14,159 --> 02:12:16,719
up a whole bunch of their um open

3217
02:12:16,719 --> 02:12:19,599
articles and apply it to that project.

3218
02:12:19,599 --> 02:12:22,480
And we're doing the same thing with the

3219
02:12:22,480 --> 02:12:24,079
um

3220
02:12:24,079 --> 02:12:27,520
replacement of the g uh the 4,000galon

3221
02:12:27,520 --> 02:12:30,400
gasoline tank at highway garage. It's

3222
02:12:30,400 --> 02:12:32,400
not coming together. We don't have

3223
02:12:32,400 --> 02:12:34,400
enough money for the fire um suppression

3224
02:12:34,400 --> 02:12:37,520
system. So, we pivoted and they're going

3225
02:12:37,520 --> 02:12:39,520
to put a new tank up at the public

3226
02:12:39,520 --> 02:12:41,760
safety complex so it'll be readily

3227
02:12:41,760 --> 02:12:43,760
available. And then they're going to

3228
02:12:43,760 --> 02:12:46,159
rehabilitate the original tank at

3229
02:12:46,159 --> 02:12:48,239
highway station at the highway garage

3230
02:12:48,239 --> 02:12:49,679
and still be within the original

3231
02:12:49,679 --> 02:12:53,990
appropriation.

3232
02:12:54,000 --> 02:12:59,669
» Bless you.

3233
02:12:59,679 --> 02:13:05,199
Any questions? No. All right.

3234
02:13:05,199 --> 02:13:07,119
Move to approve article six transfer

3235
02:13:07,119 --> 02:13:14,149
between capital projects for $335,2675

3236
02:13:14,159 --> 02:13:16,320
second by all

3237
02:13:16,320 --> 02:13:18,400
>> favor

3238
02:13:18,400 --> 02:13:20,560
that

3239
02:13:20,560 --> 02:13:22,320
preservation. We need to do the legal

3240
02:13:22,320 --> 02:13:22,880
budget.

3241
02:13:22,880 --> 02:13:26,320
>> Yeah. And that was just a um

3242
02:13:26,320 --> 02:13:28,960
diagonal look at a debt schedule.

3243
02:13:28,960 --> 02:13:31,840
>> Okay. Any questions?

3244
02:13:31,840 --> 02:13:33,360
It's just the debt service on the

3245
02:13:33,360 --> 02:13:34,079
athletic field.

3246
02:13:34,079 --> 02:13:35,440
>> Yeah, it was just the wrong amount was

3247
02:13:35,440 --> 02:13:38,239
picked up.

3248
02:13:38,239 --> 02:13:44,229
>> Motion approved 15,750 debt service.

3249
02:13:44,239 --> 02:13:45,599
Second

3250
02:13:45,599 --> 02:13:50,079
>> move by Mr. Gri, second by Dr. Cono. All

3251
02:13:50,079 --> 02:13:54,159
in favor. Okay, that one is unanimous.

3252
02:13:54,159 --> 02:13:57,520
All the others we've already got.

3253
02:13:57,520 --> 02:13:59,520
>> And now we move to number eight. the

3254
02:13:59,520 --> 02:14:01,440
revolving fund limits. This just recom

3255
02:14:01,440 --> 02:14:03,520
um this just reflects the votes that you

3256
02:14:03,520 --> 02:14:04,960
took at the end of the fiscal year to

3257
02:14:04,960 --> 02:14:07,679
adjust some limits for fiscal 26. So

3258
02:14:07,679 --> 02:14:10,159
they're reflected for fiscal 27 and it

3259
02:14:10,159 --> 02:14:12,079
also puts limits on for the new rental

3260
02:14:12,079 --> 02:14:15,520
accounts which got left off the chart.

3261
02:14:15,520 --> 02:14:18,159
>> Okay, questions.

3262
02:14:18,159 --> 02:14:20,560
>> You start last week was limits on what

3263
02:14:20,560 --> 02:14:21,119
accounts?

3264
02:14:21,119 --> 02:14:22,480
>> Oh, [snorts] the new rental accounts.

3265
02:14:22,480 --> 02:14:23,920
They weren't on last year's cart. So

3266
02:14:23,920 --> 02:14:26,079
when somebody cut and pasted it into the

3267
02:14:26,079 --> 02:14:27,920
warrant, they forgot to add them. I'm

3268
02:14:27,920 --> 02:14:29,199
not saying who that is, but we know who

3269
02:14:29,199 --> 02:14:31,360
does the warrant.

3270
02:14:31,360 --> 02:14:31,920
>> Okay.

3271
02:14:31,920 --> 02:14:33,679
>> I move with the town amendment article

3272
02:14:33,679 --> 02:14:36,719
11 of April 13, 2026 annual town meeting

3273
02:14:36,719 --> 02:14:38,800
to increase the end spending limits for

3274
02:14:38,800 --> 02:14:43,440
the following channel 5 section 10260

3275
02:14:43,440 --> 02:14:48,390
fiscal year 2037

3276
02:14:48,400 --> 02:14:51,360
chapter 44 section 53E

3277
02:14:51,360 --> 02:14:54,800
and a half as shown in the print board.

3278
02:14:54,800 --> 02:14:56,480
So moved

3279
02:14:56,480 --> 02:15:02,159
>> by second by um Mel. All in favor?

3280
02:15:02,159 --> 02:15:05,440
>> I Okay.

3281
02:15:05,440 --> 02:15:07,599
>> And number nine is the eminent domain.

3282
02:15:07,599 --> 02:15:09,360
This was on the special town meeting in

3283
02:15:09,360 --> 02:15:12,000
April. It had to be deferred because um

3284
02:15:12,000 --> 02:15:14,320
we didn't have the appraisal.

3285
02:15:14,320 --> 02:15:18,000
>> This is for five of the six lots. Um it

3286
02:15:18,000 --> 02:15:20,480
is a friendly eminent domain taking. The

3287
02:15:20,480 --> 02:15:22,880
heirs are in favor of it. They're in

3288
02:15:22,880 --> 02:15:25,679
favor of the amount of the new appraisal

3289
02:15:25,679 --> 02:15:28,400
and town council is also in favor of

3290
02:15:28,400 --> 02:15:30,320
getting this project finally finished so

3291
02:15:30,320 --> 02:15:32,239
we can enjoy Sunset Road.

3292
02:15:32,239 --> 02:15:33,040
>> Yes.

3293
02:15:33,040 --> 02:15:35,119
>> And the same money that I've been agreed

3294
02:15:35,119 --> 02:15:35,679
upon.

3295
02:15:35,679 --> 02:15:37,440
>> Much less.

3296
02:15:37,440 --> 02:15:40,079
>> Oh.

3297
02:15:40,079 --> 02:15:40,639
Yes.

3298
02:15:40,639 --> 02:15:45,280
>> Okay. I move to approve um article 9

3299
02:15:45,280 --> 02:15:48,159
eminent mainland acquisition of sunset

3300
02:15:48,159 --> 02:15:52,639
road for town for 69

3301
02:15:52,639 --> 02:15:54,560
>> uh it's it won't be that

3302
02:15:54,560 --> 02:15:55,199
>> it won't be that

3303
02:15:55,199 --> 02:15:57,520
>> that's what's left in the appropriation

3304
02:15:57,520 --> 02:16:02,800
>> yeah move by second by all in favor

3305
02:16:02,800 --> 02:16:04,880
>> okay cemetery

3306
02:16:04,880 --> 02:16:06,320
>> I'm gonna defer to Jim on this one

3307
02:16:06,320 --> 02:16:07,760
because he knows more about it

3308
02:16:07,760 --> 02:16:09,679
>> so the inland cemetery the people who

3309
02:16:09,679 --> 02:16:11,119
are like here in custody that go

3310
02:16:11,119 --> 02:16:14,000
cemetery are

3311
02:16:14,000 --> 02:16:15,840
in very poor health. There's only one

3312
02:16:15,840 --> 02:16:18,400
fresh plot. Everybody else is gone. They

3313
02:16:18,400 --> 02:16:20,000
have no way to maintain it. No way to

3314
02:16:20,000 --> 02:16:21,360
keep it up. We've seen some of the stuff

3315
02:16:21,360 --> 02:16:24,159
on Facebook. They do have between 200

3316
02:16:24,159 --> 02:16:27,520
and 250 plots available.

3317
02:16:27,520 --> 02:16:29,679
>> So, a lot of time to take it and then

3318
02:16:29,679 --> 02:16:31,199
they use the funds for those to maintain

3319
02:16:31,199 --> 02:16:32,960
the cemetery hopefully without

3320
02:16:32,960 --> 02:16:36,240
stretching out DBW too much. But, uh

3321
02:16:36,240 --> 02:16:38,160
there's no one that's it's getting in

3322
02:16:38,160 --> 02:16:40,160
bad shape.

3323
02:16:40,160 --> 02:16:42,319
It didn't have any available lots. I

3324
02:16:42,319 --> 02:16:43,760
probably tell you to stay away from it

3325
02:16:43,760 --> 02:16:47,040
already has lots available.

3326
02:16:47,040 --> 02:16:50,389
Make way to go.

3327
02:16:50,399 --> 02:16:53,120
» Uh move to approve article 10 land

3328
02:16:53,120 --> 02:16:55,920
donation cemetery lock road.

3329
02:16:55,920 --> 02:16:56,479
>> Second.

3330
02:16:56,479 --> 02:16:59,679
>> Moved by Michel second by Mr. Gilmore.

3331
02:16:59,679 --> 02:17:01,840
All in favor?

3332
02:17:01,840 --> 02:17:04,399
That's unanimous.

3333
02:17:04,399 --> 02:17:06,719
>> Okay. Los Gates. We've talked about this

3334
02:17:06,719 --> 02:17:07,040
one.

3335
02:17:07,040 --> 02:17:08,880
>> Yeah. Situ Historical asked if the board

3336
02:17:08,880 --> 02:17:11,120
would take it back over. Since um the

3337
02:17:11,120 --> 02:17:14,240
town took possession of the ownership of

3338
02:17:14,240 --> 02:17:16,000
the property and then assign the care

3339
02:17:16,000 --> 02:17:19,359
and custody at a 1972 town meeting, it

3340
02:17:19,359 --> 02:17:20,800
was determined that it had to go back to

3341
02:17:20,800 --> 02:17:22,719
town meeting to change the care and

3342
02:17:22,719 --> 02:17:24,960
custody from situ historical back to

3343
02:17:24,960 --> 02:17:25,920
town.

3344
02:17:25,920 --> 02:17:28,080
>> So we're not on a town meeting.

3345
02:17:28,080 --> 02:17:30,479
>> All right. Any questions on that?

3346
02:17:30,479 --> 02:17:32,080
>> Okay, great.

3347
02:17:32,080 --> 02:17:34,399
>> Move approve article 11 car invested

3348
02:17:34,399 --> 02:17:37,280
Watson Gates for town meeting. Moved by

3349
02:17:37,280 --> 02:17:42,000
Michelive by Dr. All in favor.

3350
02:17:42,000 --> 02:17:43,599
>> All right. Amen. General bylaws. We

3351
02:17:43,599 --> 02:17:45,120
already voted on that.

3352
02:17:45,120 --> 02:17:50,160
>> 5 Z. Um local option number 13.

3353
02:17:50,160 --> 02:17:52,719
>> This would allow um sewer betterments to

3354
02:17:52,719 --> 02:17:55,599
go all the way to 30 years rather than

3355
02:17:55,599 --> 02:17:58,080
um the current limit of 20 which would

3356
02:17:58,080 --> 02:17:59,439
certainly help if you have a choice.

3357
02:17:59,439 --> 02:18:01,040
>> Yeah. I mean I think it makes sense.

3358
02:18:01,040 --> 02:18:03,359
It's kind of where you're going anyway.

3359
02:18:03,359 --> 02:18:05,679
On top of more typical mortgages.

3360
02:18:05,679 --> 02:18:08,559
>> Yeah. Um, any other questions? And makes

3361
02:18:08,559 --> 02:18:11,679
it a little bit

3362
02:18:11,679 --> 02:18:14,319
>> palatable. Not really affordable.

3363
02:18:14,319 --> 02:18:18,080
Palatable. Yes. Okay. Any other

3364
02:18:18,080 --> 02:18:20,639
questions?

3365
02:18:20,639 --> 02:18:24,559
>> Do we have a motion? No questions.

3366
02:18:24,559 --> 02:18:27,120
>> Move that accept the provisional

3367
02:18:27,120 --> 02:18:31,359
legislative chapter 83 section 15D.

3368
02:18:31,359 --> 02:18:35,120
>> Moved by Mr. Gilmore, seconded by Dr.

3369
02:18:35,120 --> 02:18:36,719
All in favor?

3370
02:18:36,719 --> 02:18:39,840
>> I we have one more option.

3371
02:18:39,840 --> 02:18:41,359
>> I'm going to let Jim explain this

3372
02:18:41,359 --> 02:18:43,200
because he explains it better than I do.

3373
02:18:43,200 --> 02:18:45,040
>> Okay.

3374
02:18:45,040 --> 02:18:46,479
>> So, you're aware of the issue we have

3375
02:18:46,479 --> 02:18:50,479
with the bottom lines of our

3376
02:18:50,479 --> 02:18:52,960
town's billing right now will be that

3377
02:18:52,960 --> 02:18:55,599
either we pay for it or residents pay

3378
02:18:55,599 --> 02:18:57,439
for it. But this allows us to do some of

3379
02:18:57,439 --> 02:18:59,760
the s project. We can go to do the

3380
02:18:59,760 --> 02:19:01,519
project and assess that be back against

3381
02:19:01,519 --> 02:19:02,960
the home so they can pay it off over

3382
02:19:02,960 --> 02:19:05,040
time. Doesn't mean we have to do it. It

3383
02:19:05,040 --> 02:19:06,639
just gives us another option should we

3384
02:19:06,639 --> 02:19:09,359
want to explore when this issue get

3385
02:19:09,359 --> 02:19:09,760
done.

3386
02:19:09,760 --> 02:19:11,599
>> And this is for privately owned.

3387
02:19:11,599 --> 02:19:12,399
>> Privately owned.

3388
02:19:12,399 --> 02:19:15,200
>> This is privately owned.

3389
02:19:15,200 --> 02:19:17,200
>> It is. It's already come up with the

3390
02:19:17,200 --> 02:19:18,559
dirt road.

3391
02:19:18,559 --> 02:19:21,200
>> I think this is a good

3392
02:19:21,200 --> 02:19:27,589
amount of flexibility for everybody.

3393
02:19:27,599 --> 02:19:30,719
» No doubt.

3394
02:19:30,719 --> 02:19:33,359
I'm just saying

3395
02:19:33,359 --> 02:19:33,920
>> much better.

3396
02:19:33,920 --> 02:19:35,679
>> All right. Moved by M. Legos, seconded

3397
02:19:35,679 --> 02:19:37,679
by Mr. Gilmore. All in favor?

3398
02:19:37,679 --> 02:19:41,040
>> I unanimous. Um

3399
02:19:41,040 --> 02:19:44,399
>> and moderator term. This was my um all

3400
02:19:44,399 --> 02:19:46,000
the other terms are

3401
02:19:46,000 --> 02:19:47,040
>> nobrainers.

3402
02:19:47,040 --> 02:19:49,040
>> This I think is a no-brainer. It's less

3403
02:19:49,040 --> 02:19:50,880
work for Kathy's office,

3404
02:19:50,880 --> 02:19:52,160
>> less work for the moderator.

3405
02:19:52,160 --> 02:19:53,920
and or

3406
02:19:53,920 --> 02:19:56,399
anyone that helps her get signatures. Um

3407
02:19:56,399 --> 02:19:58,160
>> and town council was in favor of this

3408
02:19:58,160 --> 02:19:59,680
because council thought it was a great

3409
02:19:59,680 --> 02:20:00,240
idea

3410
02:20:00,240 --> 02:20:02,080
>> because he's had some communities that

3411
02:20:02,080 --> 02:20:04,160
have become moderatorless

3412
02:20:04,160 --> 02:20:05,760
>> because it's so much

3413
02:20:05,760 --> 02:20:08,000
>> so then who runs the town

3414
02:20:08,000 --> 02:20:08,640
>> that's the problem

3415
02:20:08,640 --> 02:20:09,680
>> they don't have a moderator

3416
02:20:09,680 --> 02:20:11,359
>> but if they don't have a moderator town

3417
02:20:11,359 --> 02:20:12,399
council

3418
02:20:12,399 --> 02:20:16,640
>> no I don't know if they have a deputy or

3419
02:20:16,640 --> 02:20:18,800
>> it's called unpleasant

3420
02:20:18,800 --> 02:20:21,359
>> it's

3421
02:20:21,359 --> 02:20:24,240
approve article 15 completion of

3422
02:20:24,240 --> 02:20:26,720
moderator term in charter

3423
02:20:26,720 --> 02:20:28,720
>> second move

3424
02:20:28,720 --> 02:20:30,880
If I can

3425
02:20:30,880 --> 02:20:33,600
ally.

3426
02:20:33,600 --> 02:20:35,760
>> All right. Now, we need to decide

3427
02:20:35,760 --> 02:20:38,240
consent and then present it. Right.

3428
02:20:38,240 --> 02:20:40,319
>> Right. So, you have a proposal before

3429
02:20:40,319 --> 02:20:42,399
you to put everything but the capital

3430
02:20:42,399 --> 02:20:44,800
plan, community preservation, the

3431
02:20:44,800 --> 02:20:46,800
eminent domain, land taking, the land

3432
02:20:46,800 --> 02:20:50,319
donation, and the general bylaw um

3433
02:20:50,319 --> 02:20:52,720
amendments into the consent agenda.

3434
02:20:52,720 --> 02:20:56,960
>> Motion to do as Nancy just advised.

3435
02:20:56,960 --> 02:20:58,240
>> Second. Second

3436
02:20:58,240 --> 02:20:59,280
>> I agree.

3437
02:20:59,280 --> 02:21:00,240
>> Yeah.

3438
02:21:00,240 --> 02:21:04,880
>> Uh so moved by Mr. Gilmore, seconded by

3439
02:21:04,880 --> 02:21:08,640
um Mr. All in favor.

3440
02:21:08,640 --> 02:21:09,120
>> Okay.

3441
02:21:09,120 --> 02:21:15,510
>> In town meeting anyone cannot comment.

3442
02:21:15,520 --> 02:21:17,680
» The last one is just nine articles.

3443
02:21:17,680 --> 02:21:21,750
>> Oh okay.

3444
02:21:21,760 --> 02:21:23,520
» I don't think we have to vote.

3445
02:21:23,520 --> 02:21:26,800
>> You don't have to vote it. You just have

3446
02:21:26,800 --> 02:21:29,520
>> Okay, let's go from the Let's go from

3447
02:21:29,520 --> 02:21:30,399
the top.

3448
02:21:30,399 --> 02:21:34,160
>> You get what is it?

3449
02:21:34,160 --> 02:21:42,070
>> Okay, I'll do the consent. Okay.

3450
02:21:42,080 --> 02:21:45,680
» No. Uh oh, yeah. Sorry.

3451
02:21:45,680 --> 02:21:47,040
>> I thought the chief was doing the

3452
02:21:47,040 --> 02:21:49,280
capital the capital for the gun range. I

3453
02:21:49,280 --> 02:21:50,640
thought we decided that the last

3454
02:21:50,640 --> 02:21:51,840
meeting.

3455
02:21:51,840 --> 02:21:53,600
>> Well, the chief will get out and see. We

3456
02:21:53,600 --> 02:21:56,000
have to say why we didn't vote for it.

3457
02:21:56,000 --> 02:21:57,040
>> Someone has to vote.

3458
02:21:57,040 --> 02:22:00,479
>> I'll take a

3459
02:22:00,479 --> 02:22:01,520
vote.

3460
02:22:01,520 --> 02:22:06,150
>> No chair.

3461
02:22:06,160 --> 02:22:09,200
» Okay. You want me to

3462
02:22:09,200 --> 02:22:10,720
>> explain? I'll take community

3463
02:22:10,720 --> 02:22:16,870
preservation. It's a weird.

3464
02:22:16,880 --> 02:22:20,319
» Okay. Well, you are the um

3465
02:22:20,319 --> 02:22:22,800
>> I'd be happy to do that.

3466
02:22:22,800 --> 02:22:25,040
>> Jamie has community preservation which

3467
02:22:25,040 --> 02:22:27,359
you've got a bunch of tough ones too.

3468
02:22:27,359 --> 02:22:29,359
>> You want to split up Jamie?

3469
02:22:29,359 --> 02:22:31,439
>> Are you good on all of them? Up to you.

3470
02:22:31,439 --> 02:22:32,880
>> They are going to have to be split

3471
02:22:32,880 --> 02:22:34,720
because

3472
02:22:34,720 --> 02:22:36,399
>> budget increases.

3473
02:22:36,399 --> 02:22:38,319
>> It depends on how the moderator wants to

3474
02:22:38,319 --> 02:22:41,439
get is good. The GR of all is good. Town

3475
02:22:41,439 --> 02:22:44,319
archives I've been on.

3476
02:22:44,319 --> 02:22:45,680
>> I have no problem.

3477
02:22:45,680 --> 02:22:48,960
>> Okay. So we we remember the moderator

3478
02:22:48,960 --> 02:22:50,479
>> yesterday.

3479
02:22:50,479 --> 02:22:53,920
>> It's been a long day together. Uh

3480
02:22:53,920 --> 02:22:56,000
probably what she'll do on community

3481
02:22:56,000 --> 02:22:58,000
preservation

3482
02:22:58,000 --> 02:22:59,600
is she'll move it almost like she does a

3483
02:22:59,600 --> 02:23:00,560
capital budget.

3484
02:23:00,560 --> 02:23:01,600
>> Yeah.

3485
02:23:01,600 --> 02:23:05,110
>> Lawson

3486
02:23:05,120 --> 02:23:06,800
» take a vote on all the ones that I held

3487
02:23:06,800 --> 02:23:08,319
and then do those other.

3488
02:23:08,319 --> 02:23:09,760
>> So I'll be prepared. Whatever.

3489
02:23:09,760 --> 02:23:17,750
>> Yeah, that's good. But if it doesn't

3490
02:23:17,760 --> 02:23:20,160
» I would just be concerned that it didn't

3491
02:23:20,160 --> 02:23:22,800
pass because of one thing and then

3492
02:23:22,800 --> 02:23:26,160
something that is a no-brainer doesn't

3493
02:23:26,160 --> 02:23:26,880
pass either.

3494
02:23:26,880 --> 02:23:29,200
>> No, she's going to do this individually.

3495
02:23:29,200 --> 02:23:31,040
They get called out. So like Appleton

3496
02:23:31,040 --> 02:23:35,520
will she'll say, you know, do ABC, you

3497
02:23:35,520 --> 02:23:37,760
know, and G are going to pass together.

3498
02:23:37,760 --> 02:23:38,880
So

3499
02:23:38,880 --> 02:23:41,760
>> I assume that the Apple

3500
02:23:41,760 --> 02:23:44,000
So it was pier 44 and then gates

3501
02:23:44,000 --> 02:23:46,399
department which is the farming which

3502
02:23:46,399 --> 02:23:49,200
requires more.

3503
02:23:49,200 --> 02:23:51,760
>> I mean it makes sense to just plan on

3504
02:23:51,760 --> 02:23:53,120
holding them doesn't it?

3505
02:23:53,120 --> 02:24:00,389
>> She's the moderator

3506
02:24:00,399 --> 02:24:03,120
» revolving fun. Oh that's me Eminem

3507
02:24:03,120 --> 02:24:05,359
taking up sunset road. Anyone want that

3508
02:24:05,359 --> 02:24:06,160
one?

3509
02:24:06,160 --> 02:24:08,720
>> That sounds like Andrew.

3510
02:24:08,720 --> 02:24:10,790
[laughter]

3511
02:24:10,800 --> 02:24:12,960
I'll do the cemetery.

3512
02:24:12,960 --> 02:24:16,479
>> You want to do the cemetery?

3513
02:24:16,479 --> 02:24:19,040
>> Do something.

3514
02:24:19,040 --> 02:24:20,800
>> Too. You can get out there and help.

3515
02:24:20,800 --> 02:24:22,160
>> You should do waterways because you

3516
02:24:22,160 --> 02:24:22,560
wrote

3517
02:24:22,560 --> 02:24:27,270
>> I'll do

3518
02:24:27,280 --> 02:24:28,399
that.

3519
02:24:28,399 --> 02:24:30,160
>> Yeah.

3520
02:24:30,160 --> 02:24:31,600
>> All right. But then Nico's not doing

3521
02:24:31,600 --> 02:24:31,760
anything.

3522
02:24:31,760 --> 02:24:33,439
>> I'm gonna call Dave, but he better not

3523
02:24:33,439 --> 02:24:34,160
show up.

3524
02:24:34,160 --> 02:24:35,520
>> Nico's not doing anything.

3525
02:24:35,520 --> 02:24:37,439
>> Nico, what do you want to do? I well I

3526
02:24:37,439 --> 02:24:39,200
was planning on presenting for pure 44

3527
02:24:39,200 --> 02:24:42,000
so that's why I was asking James

3528
02:24:42,000 --> 02:24:44,800
>> no [snorts]

3529
02:24:44,800 --> 02:24:46,960
>> gates

3530
02:24:46,960 --> 02:24:49,200
I'll do I'll do the pickup chart

3531
02:24:49,200 --> 02:24:53,349
>> I'll do the pickup

3532
02:24:53,359 --> 02:24:56,479
» but that that may get moved as

3533
02:24:56,479 --> 02:24:56,960
>> no

3534
02:24:56,960 --> 02:24:58,880
>> but then normally it reads it whatever

3535
02:24:58,880 --> 02:25:03,750
just goes

3536
02:25:03,760 --> 02:25:09,439
» they try to hold it because my life.

3537
02:25:09,439 --> 02:25:13,030
>> Take something.

3538
02:25:13,040 --> 02:25:14,880
» You don't know. But on a consent

3539
02:25:14,880 --> 02:25:16,640
agreement, there may be something that

3540
02:25:16,640 --> 02:25:19,680
gets kicked up and then we can decide.

3541
02:25:19,680 --> 02:25:21,520
>> No, but like I thought I they just gave

3542
02:25:21,520 --> 02:25:23,600
me every consent. You're happy to do any

3543
02:25:23,600 --> 02:25:31,830
of the consent.

3544
02:25:31,840 --> 02:25:32,880
» Something gets you don't know what's

3545
02:25:32,880 --> 02:25:34,479
going to get held on consent. So if

3546
02:25:34,479 --> 02:25:36,000
something gets held on consent then

3547
02:25:36,000 --> 02:25:38,479
maybe then then the end could take it

3548
02:25:38,479 --> 02:25:41,520
>> if we don't get the 66% of the capital

3549
02:25:41,520 --> 02:25:44,080
that we don't get either.

3550
02:25:44,080 --> 02:25:46,319
>> No I I think she will do the same thing

3551
02:25:46,319 --> 02:25:49,670
on those

3552
02:25:49,680 --> 02:25:53,349
» we spoke on that.

3553
02:25:53,359 --> 02:25:58,230
» Uh I'm looking at my agenda right now.

3554
02:25:58,240 --> 02:26:00,080
» So um the next thing you have on your

3555
02:26:00,080 --> 02:26:01,200
agenda.

3556
02:26:01,200 --> 02:26:05,359
>> Yeah. So, um,

3557
02:26:05,359 --> 02:26:09,120
uh, Jim and Bob Clark reached out to the

3558
02:26:09,120 --> 02:26:11,840
units. We have five units that will not

3559
02:26:11,840 --> 02:26:14,479
have contract or units in the non-union

3560
02:26:14,479 --> 02:26:16,080
employees that will not have contracts

3561
02:26:16,080 --> 02:26:20,240
for fiscal 28. Um, which means that for

3562
02:26:20,240 --> 02:26:22,240
the budget, I have to put in an

3563
02:26:22,240 --> 02:26:24,319
estimated contractual amount for what

3564
02:26:24,319 --> 02:26:26,479
may be bargained.

3565
02:26:26,479 --> 02:26:29,600
By approving a one-year MOA, if the

3566
02:26:29,600 --> 02:26:32,240
units were willing to do that, we can

3567
02:26:32,240 --> 02:26:34,720
tighten up the budgets and know exactly

3568
02:26:34,720 --> 02:26:36,240
what the personnel costs are going to

3569
02:26:36,240 --> 02:26:40,160
be. So before you you have three units

3570
02:26:40,160 --> 02:26:43,600
um the clerical association tusca the um

3571
02:26:43,600 --> 02:26:46,479
management uh association amp and then

3572
02:26:46,479 --> 02:26:48,399
tusca unit B which is the communication

3573
02:26:48,399 --> 02:26:50,800
specialist have all um voted and

3574
02:26:50,800 --> 02:26:54,479
ratified a one-year fiscal 28 contract

3575
02:26:54,479 --> 02:26:57,760
uh memorandum of uh agreement for 3%

3576
02:26:57,760 --> 02:27:01,520
cola no changes in language um and then

3577
02:27:01,520 --> 02:27:04,720
if the board is amendable to those you

3578
02:27:04,720 --> 02:27:06,720
also have the classification plan for

3579
02:27:06,720 --> 02:27:08,479
non non-union hourly and salary

3580
02:27:08,479 --> 02:27:10,720
employees which would follow at a 3%

3581
02:27:10,720 --> 02:27:12,319
cola.

3582
02:27:12,319 --> 02:27:14,560
>> This is my two contracts that haven't

3583
02:27:14,560 --> 02:27:15,520
settled for next year.

3584
02:27:15,520 --> 02:27:17,760
>> Correct.

3585
02:27:17,760 --> 02:27:20,240
>> And that would just leave the fire unit

3586
02:27:20,240 --> 02:27:26,150
um without a contract for fiscal 28.

3587
02:27:26,160 --> 02:27:28,000
» So the other issue that we brought up

3588
02:27:28,000 --> 02:27:30,880
aside from just the fiscal

3589
02:27:30,880 --> 02:27:33,520
circus

3590
02:27:33,520 --> 02:27:35,439
is leaving middle of the year.

3591
02:27:35,439 --> 02:27:37,359
>> Yeah. So we would be trying to switch to

3592
02:27:37,359 --> 02:27:41,600
a new HI dire middle of doing contracts

3593
02:27:41,600 --> 02:27:45,120
would be less.

3594
02:27:45,120 --> 02:27:45,439
So

3595
02:27:45,439 --> 02:27:48,160
>> So I guess I have a question on the 3%

3596
02:27:48,160 --> 02:27:50,319
with this. Does that mean everybody's

3597
02:27:50,319 --> 02:27:53,520
gotten their 3%. Or are we on this

3598
02:27:53,520 --> 02:27:55,840
constant like someone got 3% last year

3599
02:27:55,840 --> 02:27:57,760
so whatever we negotiate the next year

3600
02:27:57,760 --> 02:28:00,319
wants 3%. So everybody

3601
02:28:00,319 --> 02:28:02,000
>> I just like that like it's great that

3602
02:28:02,000 --> 02:28:05,680
we're giving our folks 3% but like the

3603
02:28:05,680 --> 02:28:09,840
world is not getting 3%. So like

3604
02:28:09,840 --> 02:28:12,240
I mean a friend of mine just said they

3605
02:28:12,240 --> 02:28:15,200
we're there's no cost of living at like

3606
02:28:15,200 --> 02:28:18,080
so like I guess at what point

3607
02:28:18,080 --> 02:28:22,399
is has everyone got their 3%.

3608
02:28:22,399 --> 02:28:25,600
that or is this constant

3609
02:28:25,600 --> 02:28:29,750
if we can't afford 3%.

3610
02:28:29,760 --> 02:28:32,800
» So yeah, this we have two contracts that

3611
02:28:32,800 --> 02:28:35,680
are settled that are in the 3% range for

3612
02:28:35,680 --> 02:28:38,720
next year. So this brings everybody else

3613
02:28:38,720 --> 02:28:39,920
into the same line.

3614
02:28:39,920 --> 02:28:42,880
>> So right now at after the contracts,

3615
02:28:42,880 --> 02:28:46,479
everyone's at the same line. So then the

3616
02:28:46,479 --> 02:28:48,560
next contract, it's not like, oh, the

3617
02:28:48,560 --> 02:28:50,800
last people got 3%, I've got to get 3%.

3618
02:28:50,800 --> 02:28:53,680
with the exception of fire and then we

3619
02:28:53,680 --> 02:28:56,800
will do new contracts with all the

3620
02:28:56,800 --> 02:28:59,120
unions and those contracts are based

3621
02:28:59,120 --> 02:29:01,200
upon the negotiations with that

3622
02:29:01,200 --> 02:29:03,680
particular union at that particular

3623
02:29:03,680 --> 02:29:04,319
time.

3624
02:29:04,319 --> 02:29:05,040
>> Okay.

3625
02:29:05,040 --> 02:29:08,080
So, normally your fire and your

3626
02:29:08,080 --> 02:29:09,920
police

3627
02:29:09,920 --> 02:29:12,640
tend to be in the same ballpark.

3628
02:29:12,640 --> 02:29:15,840
>> Uh your other contracts are going to be

3629
02:29:15,840 --> 02:29:17,359
all over the place because what the

3630
02:29:17,359 --> 02:29:18,880
clerical does is different than what the

3631
02:29:18,880 --> 02:29:22,399
DPW does. DPW might might have new

3632
02:29:22,399 --> 02:29:23,439
equipment that they're going to get a

3633
02:29:23,439 --> 02:29:26,479
stipen for that. So

3634
02:29:26,479 --> 02:29:28,720
each contract is its individual contract

3635
02:29:28,720 --> 02:29:31,280
when negotiated on a contract to

3636
02:29:31,280 --> 02:29:33,359
contract basis. This was just because of

3637
02:29:33,359 --> 02:29:35,520
the unique circumstance that we serve

3638
02:29:35,520 --> 02:29:39,520
next year not going to have any job that

3639
02:29:39,520 --> 02:29:41,600
some of these contracts Bob essentially

3640
02:29:41,600 --> 02:29:42,560
does by yourself.

3641
02:29:42,560 --> 02:29:44,960
>> Yeah. No, I know. I I get that. I just

3642
02:29:44,960 --> 02:29:47,760
know that we're also as you know we're

3643
02:29:47,760 --> 02:29:51,439
running out of percents to get people

3644
02:29:51,439 --> 02:29:54,800
And we've got to ask town people town

3645
02:29:54,800 --> 02:29:57,600
citizens for extra money to give our

3646
02:29:57,600 --> 02:29:59,439
employees extra money.

3647
02:29:59,439 --> 02:30:00,640
>> They may not have extra money.

3648
02:30:00,640 --> 02:30:02,160
>> Yeah. And I I get it.

3649
02:30:02,160 --> 02:30:03,840
>> They never got 3%, you know,

3650
02:30:03,840 --> 02:30:06,880
>> but we I have to build something.

3651
02:30:06,880 --> 02:30:08,960
I just want to make sure like after this

3652
02:30:08,960 --> 02:30:10,880
fire is the only one and then

3653
02:30:10,880 --> 02:30:11,840
everybody's even

3654
02:30:11,840 --> 02:30:15,349
>> Steve

3655
02:30:15,359 --> 02:30:17,200
» motion

3656
02:30:17,200 --> 02:30:19,680
>> to approve the collective bargaining

3657
02:30:19,680 --> 02:30:23,280
matter. We've never seen that. MA

3658
02:30:23,280 --> 02:30:25,840
>> MOA for administrative management and

3659
02:30:25,840 --> 02:30:29,840
professional bargaining unit AM

3660
02:30:29,840 --> 02:30:35,120
SIU local 888 for the period of July 1st

3661
02:30:35,120 --> 02:30:40,790
uh 2027 through June 30th 2028.

3662
02:30:40,800 --> 02:30:42,800
» And there is more.

3663
02:30:42,800 --> 02:30:44,560
>> There's three different ones.

3664
02:30:44,560 --> 02:30:45,120
>> Was there

3665
02:30:45,120 --> 02:30:46,399
>> that was the second one?

3666
02:30:46,399 --> 02:30:49,680
>> That was the second. And to further

3667
02:30:49,680 --> 02:30:52,160
approve

3668
02:30:52,160 --> 02:30:55,439
>> TUSA communication specialist SEIA local

3669
02:30:55,439 --> 02:30:59,600
888 clerical association task local8 and

3670
02:30:59,600 --> 02:31:03,670
now

3671
02:31:03,680 --> 02:31:06,560
there should be there's four of them

3672
02:31:06,560 --> 02:31:08,880
based

3673
02:31:08,880 --> 02:31:11,040
>> okay you still missed one

3674
02:31:11,040 --> 02:31:12,319
>> yeah administrative management

3675
02:31:12,319 --> 02:31:13,920
>> you miss the very first one did you get

3676
02:31:13,920 --> 02:31:14,880
the

3677
02:31:14,880 --> 02:31:17,910
>> catea

3678
02:31:17,920 --> 02:31:19,200
Administrative management and

3679
02:31:19,200 --> 02:31:20,800
professional bargaining unit.

3680
02:31:20,800 --> 02:31:21,680
>> Yeah.

3681
02:31:21,680 --> 02:31:24,399
>> Task unit B communication specialist and

3682
02:31:24,399 --> 02:31:26,000
classification

3683
02:31:26,000 --> 02:31:28,640
>> plan pay schedule for non-un employees.

3684
02:31:28,640 --> 02:31:29,200
>> Correct.

3685
02:31:29,200 --> 02:31:31,359
>> Four.

3686
02:31:31,359 --> 02:31:36,080
>> I guess at this point

3687
02:31:36,090 --> 02:31:37,520
[laughter]

3688
02:31:37,520 --> 02:31:40,240
all in favor I

3689
02:31:40,240 --> 02:31:42,240
>> thank you for that 13.

3690
02:31:42,240 --> 02:31:45,840
>> Um now we've got contract for Patrick J.

3691
02:31:45,840 --> 02:31:48,800
Kennedy and his sons at unit prices of

3692
02:31:48,800 --> 02:31:51,359
unhaul plumbing services for municipal

3693
02:31:51,359 --> 02:31:52,640
and school buildings.

3694
02:31:52,640 --> 02:31:54,640
>> Move to award a contract to pass J.

3695
02:31:54,640 --> 02:31:56,479
Kennedy and Sons incorporated unit

3696
02:31:56,479 --> 02:31:58,640
prices for one call plumbing services

3697
02:31:58,640 --> 02:32:01,200
for municipal school buildings for

3698
02:32:01,200 --> 02:32:03,760
fiscal year 2027

3699
02:32:03,760 --> 02:32:05,840
with two one-year optional extensions

3700
02:32:05,840 --> 02:32:08,080
for total aggreate contract value not to

3701
02:32:08,080 --> 02:32:10,479
exceed $500,000.

3702
02:32:10,479 --> 02:32:14,319
>> Moved by Mr. Gilmore, seconded by Dr.

3703
02:32:14,319 --> 02:32:17,600
Fonoseno. All in favor? I I And I will

3704
02:32:17,600 --> 02:32:19,680
note they were the lowest bid, too.

3705
02:32:19,680 --> 02:32:21,600
>> And they and they're the current vendor

3706
02:32:21,600 --> 02:32:23,439
and their bid is lower than the last

3707
02:32:23,439 --> 02:32:23,760
time.

3708
02:32:23,760 --> 02:32:27,120
>> They are lower than the last. So I want

3709
02:32:27,120 --> 02:32:29,520
people at home

3710
02:32:29,520 --> 02:32:30,800
that

3711
02:32:30,800 --> 02:32:34,240
>> um Okay. Does Jack

3712
02:32:34,240 --> 02:32:35,760
invo

3713
02:32:35,760 --> 02:32:38,399
to maximum number of participants in the

3714
02:32:38,399 --> 02:32:41,680
senior tax workoff program? Nancy. So

3715
02:32:41,680 --> 02:32:44,560
currently the board um sets the number

3716
02:32:44,560 --> 02:32:46,560
of participants. It's been set at 30. We

3717
02:32:46,560 --> 02:32:49,680
hadn't been anywhere near that. Uh we're

3718
02:32:49,680 --> 02:32:52,560
informed by the assistant director um

3719
02:32:52,560 --> 02:32:54,560
director that they have 34 applicants

3720
02:32:54,560 --> 02:32:56,319
and they have they could have the board

3721
02:32:56,319 --> 02:32:58,720
increase. This is funded through the

3722
02:32:58,720 --> 02:33:02,080
overlay which is voted as part of the

3723
02:33:02,080 --> 02:33:04,640
financial forecast. Checked with the

3724
02:33:04,640 --> 02:33:07,200
assessors. We have sufficient funds to

3725
02:33:07,200 --> 02:33:09,359
increase the number of participants.

3726
02:33:09,359 --> 02:33:09,840
Okay,

3727
02:33:09,840 --> 02:33:11,040
>> Levi asked you to take it up.

3728
02:33:11,040 --> 02:33:13,359
>> Move it to 40. Let's just give it maybe

3729
02:33:13,359 --> 02:33:15,120
someone else wants to apply. They heard

3730
02:33:15,120 --> 02:33:16,560
it right there. They can apply

3731
02:33:16,560 --> 02:33:17,840
>> if they if they're able to fill those

3732
02:33:17,840 --> 02:33:19,200
slots. Be great.

3733
02:33:19,200 --> 02:33:21,359
>> It's absolutely the right thing to do.

3734
02:33:21,359 --> 02:33:23,120
Thank you, Nancy, for bringing it up.

3735
02:33:23,120 --> 02:33:24,479
Move to increase the number of

3736
02:33:24,479 --> 02:33:26,640
participants in the senior taxraph

3737
02:33:26,640 --> 02:33:28,880
program from 30 to 40 for a maximum

3738
02:33:28,880 --> 02:33:31,439
impact on the overlay reserve of

3739
02:33:31,439 --> 02:33:33,200
$80,000.

3740
02:33:33,200 --> 02:33:33,840
>> Sorry.

3741
02:33:33,840 --> 02:33:36,720
>> Moved by M. Schel, seconded by Mr.

3742
02:33:36,720 --> 02:33:39,920
Gilmore. All in favor? Right. Okay.

3743
02:33:39,920 --> 02:33:41,520
Correspondence. I think

3744
02:33:41,520 --> 02:33:42,800
>> we had a lot of

3745
02:33:42,800 --> 02:33:46,080
>> You already mentioned the Pier 44

3746
02:33:46,080 --> 02:33:47,359
correspondents, right?

3747
02:33:47,359 --> 02:33:53,120
>> There was um yes, several of the boards

3748
02:33:53,120 --> 02:33:58,399
um including the board on disabilities.

3749
02:33:58,399 --> 02:34:02,479
Um we have

3750
02:34:02,479 --> 02:34:03,920
um

3751
02:34:03,920 --> 02:34:04,479
>> historic

3752
02:34:04,479 --> 02:34:06,720
>> beautifification.

3753
02:34:06,720 --> 02:34:09,520
I don't believe historic actually voted

3754
02:34:09,520 --> 02:34:11,840
on it at all. That has nothing to do

3755
02:34:11,840 --> 02:34:13,600
with them, but I was there for the

3756
02:34:13,600 --> 02:34:15,359
discussion.

3757
02:34:15,359 --> 02:34:18,880
>> Um, did

3758
02:34:18,880 --> 02:34:19,760
>> on disability.

3759
02:34:19,760 --> 02:34:21,520
>> Uh, yes, I said that one already.

3760
02:34:21,520 --> 02:34:23,040
>> And you had a resident as well.

3761
02:34:23,040 --> 02:34:25,840
>> I had a resident also whose name I

3762
02:34:25,840 --> 02:34:26,880
cannot find.

3763
02:34:26,880 --> 02:34:31,520
>> Um, Charles Charles or Chuck Hol or

3764
02:34:31,520 --> 02:34:35,120
something like that. But they were all

3765
02:34:35,120 --> 02:34:39,590
>> in favor.

3766
02:34:39,600 --> 02:34:41,040
» Um

3767
02:34:41,040 --> 02:34:44,080
>> well, we hope that you made it.

3768
02:34:44,080 --> 02:34:45,840
Um

3769
02:34:45,840 --> 02:34:51,920
yeah and uh we the me few members of the

3770
02:34:51,920 --> 02:34:54,479
desalinization committee

3771
02:34:54,479 --> 02:34:56,479
water resources

3772
02:34:56,479 --> 02:35:03,359
obviously uh Kevin and John and whoever

3773
02:35:03,359 --> 02:35:05,840
myself are meeting apparently at police

3774
02:35:05,840 --> 02:35:09,120
station tomorrow to interview the top

3775
02:35:09,120 --> 02:35:12,399
two candidates for that um

3776
02:35:12,399 --> 02:35:17,040
RFP. for the beginning of looking into

3777
02:35:17,040 --> 02:35:20,000
water cell potential.

3778
02:35:20,000 --> 02:35:22,080
>> Great.

3779
02:35:22,080 --> 02:35:24,640
>> That's my correspondence.

3780
02:35:24,640 --> 02:35:26,880
>> I also forwarded you all correspondence

3781
02:35:26,880 --> 02:35:30,399
that we received from regarding the

3782
02:35:30,399 --> 02:35:33,920
night out that said there was that it

3783
02:35:33,920 --> 02:35:37,120
went really well and he was so happy for

3784
02:35:37,120 --> 02:35:38,880
our support.

3785
02:35:38,880 --> 02:35:40,640
>> I heard nothing but good things. Yeah, I

3786
02:35:40,640 --> 02:35:42,800
heard nothing but good things. I heard

3787
02:35:42,800 --> 02:35:45,040
no parking plates or just

3788
02:35:45,040 --> 02:35:47,120
>> the chefs had every uh

3789
02:35:47,120 --> 02:35:50,399
>> I know it was like masterful.

3790
02:35:50,399 --> 02:35:54,160
And then I also got a correspondence for

3791
02:35:54,160 --> 02:35:57,040
you from a resident who was thankful of

3792
02:35:57,040 --> 02:36:00,800
our questioning on the um fisherman's

3793
02:36:00,800 --> 02:36:04,720
test and um that um the alcohol being

3794
02:36:04,720 --> 02:36:09,520
there. So appreciative of that. So those

3795
02:36:09,520 --> 02:36:12,479
were other things that I haven't

3796
02:36:12,479 --> 02:36:15,120
>> any other Oh, go ahead.

3797
02:36:15,120 --> 02:36:17,200
>> Well, just for Irish District City, we

3798
02:36:17,200 --> 02:36:20,319
have visitors coming in October 11th.

3799
02:36:20,319 --> 02:36:22,000
>> Oh gosh. Mark your calendars because

3800
02:36:22,000 --> 02:36:23,120
we're actually hosting.

3801
02:36:23,120 --> 02:36:24,319
>> We have a dinner on the night of the

3802
02:36:24,319 --> 02:36:25,200
15th.

3803
02:36:25,200 --> 02:36:26,319
>> Wednesday night.

3804
02:36:26,319 --> 02:36:26,800
>> 15th.

3805
02:36:26,800 --> 02:36:27,760
>> Yes.

3806
02:36:27,760 --> 02:36:29,200
>> So, we got to be there. And

3807
02:36:29,200 --> 02:36:30,240
>> where's the dinner?

3808
02:36:30,240 --> 02:36:31,840
>> At

3809
02:36:31,840 --> 02:36:34,000
upstairs. And then we have on the very

3810
02:36:34,000 --> 02:36:36,399
first night we have a

3811
02:36:36,399 --> 02:36:38,160
>> we all

3812
02:36:38,160 --> 02:36:39,120
a memorial

3813
02:36:39,120 --> 02:36:41,680
>> everyone but you [laughter]

3814
02:36:41,680 --> 02:36:43,920
>> have a memorial service at the

3815
02:36:43,920 --> 02:36:48,160
lighthouse I believe at 5:00 for Joe

3816
02:36:48,160 --> 02:36:48,720
Carol

3817
02:36:48,720 --> 02:36:49,840
>> take two right

3818
02:36:49,840 --> 02:36:53,359
>> yeah this last

3819
02:36:53,359 --> 02:36:57,680
>> but it won't be the burning room to burn

3820
02:36:57,680 --> 02:36:58,720
>> we can try that

3821
02:36:58,720 --> 02:37:00,640
>> burn the sidewalks

3822
02:37:00,640 --> 02:37:02,080
and then after that I think there's a

3823
02:37:02,080 --> 02:37:04,319
little dinner to go to. Oh, at the

3824
02:37:04,319 --> 02:37:08,630
>> Karen camping

3825
02:37:08,640 --> 02:37:10,479
» and then they are also visiting the

3826
02:37:10,479 --> 02:37:12,399
school last spoken with

3827
02:37:12,399 --> 02:37:14,560
>> Are they going to select working?

3828
02:37:14,560 --> 02:37:16,479
>> Uh, no, they will be in Boston that day,

3829
02:37:16,479 --> 02:37:17,920
I believe. Right.

3830
02:37:17,920 --> 02:37:20,720
>> I think I got

3831
02:37:20,720 --> 02:37:21,840
you have a whole itinerary.

3832
02:37:21,840 --> 02:37:25,199
>> We have an

3833
02:37:25,209 --> 02:37:27,750
[clears throat]

3834
02:37:27,760 --> 02:37:28,880
» We'll get you that.

3835
02:37:28,880 --> 02:37:31,439
>> It's on itinary.

3836
02:37:31,439 --> 02:37:37,280
All right. Any other discussions

3837
02:37:37,280 --> 02:37:39,040
bring up

3838
02:37:39,040 --> 02:37:40,560
meeting

3839
02:37:40,560 --> 02:37:43,439
to approve the meeting minutes from

3840
02:37:43,439 --> 02:37:46,479
>> September 10

3841
02:37:46,479 --> 02:37:47,680
and

3842
02:37:47,680 --> 02:37:50,160
>> September one and second

3843
02:37:50,160 --> 02:37:53,439
>> move by Mel seconded by

3844
02:37:53,439 --> 02:37:59,270
>> Oh, Miss

3845
02:37:59,280 --> 02:38:02,560
Okay. Moved by

3846
02:38:02,560 --> 02:38:06,399
Michelle, seconded by um Mr. Goodrich.

3847
02:38:06,399 --> 02:38:08,560
All in favor?

3848
02:38:08,560 --> 02:38:10,000
>> Okay. You have something that's not

3849
02:38:10,000 --> 02:38:11,439
about the minute.

3850
02:38:11,439 --> 02:38:12,160
>> Okay.

3851
02:38:12,160 --> 02:38:15,120
>> Uh in regards to

3852
02:38:15,120 --> 02:38:16,560
questions are likely going to come up

3853
02:38:16,560 --> 02:38:18,560
with chair 44. The discussions we had

3854
02:38:18,560 --> 02:38:20,479
tonight, discussions we had our previous

3855
02:38:20,479 --> 02:38:25,359
meeting about parking, speed, etc., etc.

3856
02:38:25,359 --> 02:38:27,760
Um I I would like to try and get some

3857
02:38:27,760 --> 02:38:30,479
understanding. I don't think we even

3858
02:38:30,479 --> 02:38:34,000
need to have a conscious understand

3859
02:38:34,000 --> 02:38:37,280
traffic already holds the charge of

3860
02:38:37,280 --> 02:38:40,880
these kinds of topics and I'd like to

3861
02:38:40,880 --> 02:38:43,040
allow traffic rules to move forward with

3862
02:38:43,040 --> 02:38:45,600
the subcommittee to look at a global

3863
02:38:45,600 --> 02:38:50,319
view of speed, safety, parking and

3864
02:38:50,319 --> 02:38:52,640
research in the town and bringations

3865
02:38:52,640 --> 02:38:56,399
forth to us to improve.

3866
02:38:56,399 --> 02:38:58,399
Yeah, I I mean I think it's a great

3867
02:38:58,399 --> 02:38:59,840
idea.

3868
02:38:59,840 --> 02:39:01,760
>> I think it's a great idea. I will

3869
02:39:01,760 --> 02:39:03,040
>> exist there.

3870
02:39:03,040 --> 02:39:06,240
>> It does exist as much as

3871
02:39:06,240 --> 02:39:07,680
push forward because I want to be able

3872
02:39:07,680 --> 02:39:10,560
to say in October, we're working on this

3873
02:39:10,560 --> 02:39:14,080
publicly so that when questions come up,

3874
02:39:14,080 --> 02:39:16,640
not just a discussion of it's not

3875
02:39:16,640 --> 02:39:19,439
allowed. I'd like to say that working

3876
02:39:19,439 --> 02:39:21,520
hard to try and figure out a better

3877
02:39:21,520 --> 02:39:23,200
question.

3878
02:39:23,200 --> 02:39:27,040
>> I do. I also um I think I've gotten zero

3879
02:39:27,040 --> 02:39:30,640
complaints except for

3880
02:39:30,640 --> 02:39:32,960
parking this year and I have every time

3881
02:39:32,960 --> 02:39:36,560
I go to the harbor there's at least five

3882
02:39:36,560 --> 02:39:38,720
>> and I

3883
02:39:38,720 --> 02:39:42,389
speak to

3884
02:39:42,399 --> 02:39:45,760
speak on behalf of the meeting that

3885
02:39:45,760 --> 02:39:48,240
comes up and I have presentation built

3886
02:39:48,240 --> 02:39:49,920
for that but I think this would be

3887
02:39:49,920 --> 02:39:51,760
helpful to be able to say the select

3888
02:39:51,760 --> 02:39:55,040
board is working on outside.

3889
02:39:55,040 --> 02:39:57,825
>> Yeah. No, I agree. I just don't

3890
02:39:57,825 --> 02:40:02,160
[clears throat] think that the extent

3891
02:40:02,160 --> 02:40:07,670
>> I don't

3892
02:40:07,680 --> 02:40:11,280
» I think that's a great idea.

3893
02:40:11,280 --> 02:40:13,359
>> Yes.

3894
02:40:13,359 --> 02:40:16,800
>> Okay. Anything any other business?

3895
02:40:16,800 --> 02:40:18,720
>> Motion to motion to adjurnn.

3896
02:40:18,720 --> 02:40:23,040
>> Second. Move by seconded. I should be

3897
02:40:23,040 --> 02:40:26,240
on. All in favor?