1 00:00:00,654 --> 00:00:03,909 [music] 2 00:00:03,919 --> 00:00:06,319 Scott County providing safe, healthy, 3 00:00:06,319 --> 00:00:09,825 and livable communities. 4 00:00:09,825 --> 00:00:13,270 [music] 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,160 » Item 6.1 is to receive information on 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,720 Scott County delivers topic, family 7 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,039 resource center. Take it away. 8 00:00:21,039 --> 00:00:22,560 >> Perfect. Thank you so much, Mr. Chair 9 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,480 and commissioners. Um, as always, 10 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,080 appreciate the time and opportunity to 11 00:00:26,080 --> 00:00:27,439 have another discussion before the 12 00:00:27,439 --> 00:00:29,679 board. Um, as Mr. chair stated today 13 00:00:29,679 --> 00:00:31,039 we'll be talking about the family 14 00:00:31,039 --> 00:00:32,559 resource centers or commonly known as 15 00:00:32,559 --> 00:00:35,200 the FRC's. Um in the packet it talks 16 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,680 about the goal of the FRC's is to really 17 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,840 strengthen a continue of access to 18 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,520 services and supports in partnership 19 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,680 with community- based nonprofit 20 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,440 nonprofits for children and youth for 21 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:46,960 families to thrive and prevent entry 22 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,280 into involuntary systems thereby 23 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,520 reducing deep end system involvement. 24 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,719 Um, our F FRC started in 2021 and was 25 00:00:54,719 --> 00:00:56,320 innovative in that there were no other F 26 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:57,760 FRC's in the state of Minnesota and 27 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,760 we've now seen this start to start to 28 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,120 change as other counties are coming 29 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,359 online. I first and foremost want to 30 00:01:03,359 --> 00:01:04,879 thank every person who worked on the 31 00:01:04,879 --> 00:01:07,760 packet and preparing the data and of 32 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,760 course thanking everybody for coming and 33 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,920 being on the panel today. To start, if 34 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,080 we could, I'll have our uh facilitators 35 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,720 here give their names and their roles 36 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:17,920 with the county and then the same for 37 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,759 the panelists, please. Um, I'll start. 38 00:01:19,759 --> 00:01:22,560 I'm uh Katie Mico, quality improvement. 39 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,040 >> Tony Winnicky, county highway engineer. 40 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,119 >> Chris Loy, transformation and enterprise 41 00:01:27,119 --> 00:01:28,159 services. 42 00:01:28,159 --> 00:01:29,680 >> Jeff Smotish, director of employee 43 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:30,400 relations. 44 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,240 >> Jake Gruing, transformation enterprise 45 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:33,920 services. 46 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,479 >> I'm Judge Vra. I'm one of the uh Scott 47 00:01:36,479 --> 00:01:38,400 County judges. I'm in [clears throat] 48 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,520 juvenile as well as child protection and 49 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,079 then the rest of it is criminal pretty 50 00:01:44,079 --> 00:01:45,520 much and family. 51 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,360 >> Um Nikki Halberg, Children and Family 52 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,600 Services. Tracy Kerber. I'm a social 53 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:50,960 work case manager on the prevention 54 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:51,840 team. 55 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,000 >> Fat Ali, interim coordinator with the 56 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,000 family resource center, 57 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,399 >> the Goldman Children's Services. 58 00:01:58,399 --> 00:01:59,920 >> Thank you all so much. And of course, 59 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:01,280 commissioners, please jump in at any 60 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,680 time with any questions. Um, but I'll uh 61 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,761 hand it over to [cough] this question. 62 00:02:05,761 --> 00:02:05,920 [clears throat] 63 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,479 >> All right. Thank you. 64 00:02:08,479 --> 00:02:14,319 Uh if you read through the packet, it's clear F FRC's are the cornerstone 65 00:02:14,319 --> 00:02:16,239 of our prevention infrastructure and 66 00:02:16,239 --> 00:02:18,800 they exemplify the culture of prevention 67 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,400 that we're trying to foster here at the 68 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,360 county. There are two people on the 69 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,680 panel with the word prevention in the 70 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,120 departments they work in. I think 71 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:28,400 Samantha actually has the word 72 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,480 prevention in her title. Nikki was uh 73 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,040 foundational in really envisioning the F 74 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,519 FRC with Suzanne and Barb with support 75 00:02:37,519 --> 00:02:40,800 from the board. Um that all that all 76 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,239 tracks for me that all makes lots and 77 00:02:42,239 --> 00:02:44,080 lots of sense. 78 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,160 My question is going to be targeted at 79 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,920 Judge Verah. Um to me if you're 80 00:02:49,920 --> 00:02:50,959 >> I asked the question, 81 00:02:50,959 --> 00:02:52,800 >> right? 82 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,000 >> Thank [laughter] you. respectfully if I 83 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,640 can ask you if I can ask a question to 84 00:02:56,640 --> 00:02:58,640 so to me if I envision myself sitting in 85 00:02:58,640 --> 00:03:01,519 a courtroom in front of you I feel like 86 00:03:01,519 --> 00:03:03,760 it's somewhere along the way we've 87 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,840 missed opportunities to prevent quite a 88 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,280 few things. I I wouldn't think of the 89 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,920 courtroom being where prevention work 90 00:03:09,920 --> 00:03:12,319 begins. So if you would from your 91 00:03:12,319 --> 00:03:14,640 perspective if you can share broadly how 92 00:03:14,640 --> 00:03:16,640 you how you see your work as a judge 93 00:03:16,640 --> 00:03:18,720 fitting with this and what opportunities 94 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,720 if any are there for a culture of 95 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,519 prevention from your seat. 96 00:03:23,519 --> 00:03:24,879 >> Well sure [clears throat and cough] I 97 00:03:24,879 --> 00:03:27,120 mean one of the things first of all I 98 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,239 was a civil lawyer before just doing 99 00:03:30,239 --> 00:03:33,360 contract work. I come to Scott County 100 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,519 become a judge. I've been a judge for 101 00:03:35,519 --> 00:03:38,959 nine years, so I feel like I have a lot 102 00:03:38,959 --> 00:03:42,720 of experience to speak to this because I 103 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,680 wasn't in social work or or in, you 104 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,000 know, public service before I came on 105 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,239 the bench. But what I see, you know, 106 00:03:52,239 --> 00:03:54,159 almost everybody that comes in front of 107 00:03:54,159 --> 00:03:56,400 me is in crisis. 108 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,080 um whether it's a divorce and that is 109 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,799 just as much of a crisis for some people 110 00:04:02,799 --> 00:04:06,080 as it is for a criminal case. A criminal 111 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,599 case, child protection, 112 00:04:09,599 --> 00:04:12,640 um juvenile cases, 113 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,400 they're in crisis and they need help. 114 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,239 And what I see is first of all just 115 00:04:20,239 --> 00:04:23,440 having the family resource center as an 116 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,000 opportunity to say, "Have you checked 117 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,040 with them? They're a one-stop shop." And 118 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,520 what I love about it is it's not just 119 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,800 the county resources, it's the private 120 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,280 resources. You know, places like St. 121 00:04:37,280 --> 00:04:41,120 Francis Hospital or FISH or some of the 122 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,280 other things. I can't even remember all 123 00:04:43,280 --> 00:04:45,600 the names of it, but I've got enough on 124 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,600 my mind. I just like having the 125 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,720 opportunity to say this is a place you 126 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,240 can go to address your needs. It's a 127 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,880 one-stop shop. You don't have to go here 128 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,680 for housing, here for insurance, here 129 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,040 for food help. It's like one place. And 130 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,520 I love that it's at the transit center, 131 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,680 which is kind of the hub of where 132 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:12,400 everybody can go to. Um, and I've really 133 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,479 seen the effects of it as well. Um, 134 00:05:16,479 --> 00:05:19,039 people know about it. You know, a lot of 135 00:05:19,039 --> 00:05:21,360 times I'll say, "Have you checked here?" 136 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,440 And they'll be like, "Yes." Because the 137 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,360 word has gotten out that there is a 138 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,960 place that they can go to to uh find 139 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,720 resources for what they need. And again, 140 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,960 it's not just the criminal. It's not 141 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,280 just the child protection. I know I work 142 00:05:39,280 --> 00:05:41,440 with all of these people in child 143 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,880 protection, but it's the divorce cases 144 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,720 too that, you know, people are just 145 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,600 needing a place for it. And what I 146 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,560 absolutely love is that Scott County has 147 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,160 been innovative on doing this and other 148 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,280 counties and other places are following 149 00:06:01,280 --> 00:06:04,960 in our footsteps and it really is just 150 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,319 an amazing thing. And I just did I know 151 00:06:08,319 --> 00:06:11,360 we've been in the Star Tribune, 152 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,319 not no the Pioneer Press. I pulled up an 153 00:06:14,319 --> 00:06:16,720 article. We're one of the first family 154 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:21,919 resource centers a in the nation and um 155 00:06:21,919 --> 00:06:25,520 it really is a model and I don't know if 156 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,560 the commissioners know how great the 157 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,440 child protection team here is in Scott 158 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,360 County but I work with them all the time 159 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,360 and I work in other counties 160 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,440 occasionally I go to other counties of 161 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,560 the seven county judicial district. the 162 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,639 people here are just so top-notch and 163 00:06:46,639 --> 00:06:48,800 supporting this program and making this 164 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,280 program great. So, I just think it's a 165 00:06:51,280 --> 00:06:54,160 great idea. I'm getting on my soap box, 166 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:55,840 but anyway, 167 00:06:55,840 --> 00:06:58,639 >> I I would jump in and say like to answer 168 00:06:58,639 --> 00:07:01,120 um to go back to your question around 169 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:02,400 like those [clears throat] 170 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,240 what Judge Frost said around those the 171 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,880 families who see the judge and who are 172 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,599 in child protection court are in crisis. 173 00:07:09,599 --> 00:07:11,919 And so while they may or may not have 174 00:07:11,919 --> 00:07:17,199 had access to prevention, I think the plan and the long-term safety 175 00:07:17,199 --> 00:07:19,039 planning that the child protection team 176 00:07:19,039 --> 00:07:21,360 does in coordination with their signs of 177 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,960 safety practice to prevent future um 178 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,720 need for child protection, whether 179 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,880 that's through building resiliency 180 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,360 within their family system to prevent 181 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,720 future assessment or placements. break 182 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,440 that generational trauma really gets at 183 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,720 um the re-entry of foster care and 184 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,800 ongoing need in the future for 185 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,280 placement. So it it it doesn't 186 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,599 necessarily may not it may start at 187 00:07:47,599 --> 00:07:49,680 court but we can see the effects when we 188 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,000 have a reduction in placement numbers um 189 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,560 we have a reduction in reentry and we 190 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,960 have um system family systems that are 191 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:58,400 building their resiliency that maybe 192 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,950 they hadn't in the past. 193 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,120 I have a question that kind of um goes 194 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,520 off of something that Judge Bra said. Um 195 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,280 when when speaking of the family 196 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,599 resource center in Shakipi, I was a 197 00:08:11,599 --> 00:08:13,440 little surprised on page seven to see 198 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,919 that there are multiple locations of the 199 00:08:15,919 --> 00:08:18,400 family resource center. So I was 200 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,360 wondering um do they do the same things 201 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,319 in each of the centers or are is it more 202 00:08:24,319 --> 00:08:26,400 targeted to the community that they're 203 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,000 in or can you talk a little bit about 204 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,560 what happens at the other locations? 205 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,599 Sure, I can speak to that. Um, so our 206 00:08:33,599 --> 00:08:37,760 Shaka Pee location is the um is at our 207 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,240 Mertz um transit building connected to 208 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,200 the integrated health center. That is I 209 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:44,959 would consider our primary location 210 00:08:44,959 --> 00:08:47,440 where we do a lot of programming. We 211 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,839 offer the food distribution comes there. 212 00:08:49,839 --> 00:08:52,160 We have Wick and Portico as well as 213 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,880 other programming and parenting classes. 214 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,120 Our Savage location is housed in the 215 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,720 library. Um, Wick does go to those every 216 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,440 um, Tuesday. And then our Jordan is at 217 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,600 the Jordan area food shelf. And then 218 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:11,190 Bell Plane is also in our library. Okay. 219 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,040 » Um, so my [clears throat] packing number 220 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:14,240 is a little bit off. Sorry about that. 221 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,120 So page six. So Jake, great uh, opening. 222 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:18,959 So I appreciate it the response kicking 223 00:09:18,959 --> 00:09:20,720 us off here. So that was that that's 224 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,080 fantastic and things are going really 225 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,680 well. you can see in that first uh 226 00:09:23,680 --> 00:09:26,399 performance measure on on page six that 227 00:09:26,399 --> 00:09:28,640 shows that success. But then going to 228 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,279 page seven, can you talk a little bit 229 00:09:31,279 --> 00:09:34,000 about the outreach and kind of the 230 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,279 correlation between the monthly 231 00:09:35,279 --> 00:09:37,440 attendance and outreach and what does 232 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,360 that outreach what does that engagement 233 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:40,640 look like? 234 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,279 >> Yeah. So you'll notice on page seven um 235 00:09:43,279 --> 00:09:47,040 our outreach really stopped um January, 236 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,920 March through this year and in Bell 237 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,880 Plain in April. So, we had a dip in 238 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,880 numbers. When you look at page seven, 239 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,240 this um this chart shows a dip in 240 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,160 numbers and I would contribute that to 241 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,000 the what was happening in the community 242 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,959 at the time early January. Um Operation 243 00:10:04,959 --> 00:10:07,839 Metro Surge, we heard feedback from um 244 00:10:07,839 --> 00:10:09,600 community members that they they didn't 245 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:14,079 feel safe coming into like a a community 246 00:10:14,079 --> 00:10:16,160 place at the time. And so that really 247 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,519 impacted our engagement both in 248 00:10:19,519 --> 00:10:22,160 um families coming and seeking resources 249 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,720 as well as participation in programming. 250 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,839 We also had um transitions and changes 251 00:10:27,839 --> 00:10:30,959 both internally and externally with our 252 00:10:30,959 --> 00:10:34,160 um staffing which caused us to have to 253 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,839 pause our bell plane um staff and also 254 00:10:37,839 --> 00:10:40,160 had cause us to pause our outreach so 255 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,560 that we could prioritize and focus on 256 00:10:42,560 --> 00:10:45,200 how do we keep the the facility open? 257 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:46,720 How do we continue to serve the people 258 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,120 that walk in? Um, we were able to 259 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:50,720 partner with the libraries and they 260 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,680 offered support in maintaining community 261 00:10:53,680 --> 00:10:55,760 outreach if somebody stopped in and we 262 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,320 offered virtual connection. But really 263 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,560 those zeros in both the bell plane and 264 00:11:00,560 --> 00:11:03,120 outreach was due to um both the 265 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,600 community um situation at the time at 266 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,040 the beginning of the year and a lot of 267 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:08,880 staffing changes that caused us to 268 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,279 prioritize how we just keep our door 269 00:11:11,279 --> 00:11:14,320 open to serve families with open hours. 270 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:14,560 Thank 271 00:11:14,560 --> 00:11:26,230 >> you. 272 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,079 All right. I have I have another 273 00:11:28,079 --> 00:11:29,600 question. 274 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,839 >> Um [clears throat] 275 00:11:31,839 --> 00:11:37,030 Evan, can you go to page four? 276 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,000 So, the closing sum, I think there's a 277 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,880 one-s sentence paragraph in the closing 278 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,160 summary that addresses [snorts] 279 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,320 the Minnesota African-American Family 280 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:49,920 Preservation and Child Welfare 281 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,279 Disproportionality Act. And I think I 282 00:11:53,279 --> 00:11:56,480 understand what that paragraph says that 283 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,560 moving forward with the implementation 284 00:11:58,560 --> 00:12:00,720 of that act, integration of FRC's and 285 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:01,920 child protection will be crucial to 286 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:03,120 support the new active effort 287 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:04,720 requirements through the provision of 288 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,240 culturally specific services for 289 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:07,519 populations disproportionately 290 00:12:07,519 --> 00:12:08,720 represented in the child protection 291 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,639 system. Could somebody maybe dumb that 292 00:12:12,639 --> 00:12:14,320 down for somebody like me and anybody 293 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,800 who is not as familiar with that act and 294 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,639 what the implications are for the FRC? 295 00:12:20,639 --> 00:12:22,959 >> Yes. Um I think for us there's there's a 296 00:12:22,959 --> 00:12:24,800 couple of layers as we look at 297 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,000 implementing um the act in 2027. Um 298 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,680 first and foremost I think when we look 299 00:12:29,680 --> 00:12:31,839 at our um data for family resource 300 00:12:31,839 --> 00:12:33,920 centers, we've really seen an increase 301 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,959 in our um bipok populations. like we 302 00:12:36,959 --> 00:12:39,200 have built trust in our community with 303 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,680 um our East African and our Hispanic 304 00:12:41,680 --> 00:12:44,800 populations and those are um categorized 305 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,959 in the Minnesota African-American Family 306 00:12:46,959 --> 00:12:48,160 Preservation Child Welfare 307 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,800 Disproportionality Act as the population 308 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,480 that is going to need the most active 309 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,040 efforts. Um so we see our prevention 310 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,680 services as really being able to serve 311 00:12:57,680 --> 00:12:59,440 that community and serve that community 312 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,079 well and and be trusted um in those 313 00:13:02,079 --> 00:13:04,880 services. And that also I think when 314 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,279 Ramsay and Henipin piloted um the 315 00:13:07,279 --> 00:13:09,680 implementation of the act in 2026, 316 00:13:09,680 --> 00:13:11,040 they've really talked throughout this 317 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,959 year about how important the prevention 318 00:13:12,959 --> 00:13:16,079 services are. Um how like that has been 319 00:13:16,079 --> 00:13:17,440 a little bit of a missing piece, 320 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:18,959 especially Ramsay has talked a little 321 00:13:18,959 --> 00:13:21,519 bit about that. Um and it with our 322 00:13:21,519 --> 00:13:24,160 services established, it really sets um 323 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,000 a place for community to come get 324 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,680 resources first to try and help them 325 00:13:27,680 --> 00:13:29,760 stay out of our child um protection 326 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,560 system. Um, additionally, I think as a 327 00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:35,040 third layer, like we have really seen a 328 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:36,560 decrease in our child protection 329 00:13:36,560 --> 00:13:38,000 assessments and our child protection 330 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,720 case management. So, um, financially 331 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,880 like we've been in a good place to 332 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,560 maintain staffing or even reduce 333 00:13:44,560 --> 00:13:46,399 staffing when most other counties are 334 00:13:46,399 --> 00:13:48,880 looking at increasing staffing um, for 335 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,160 implementation of the act. 336 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:53,920 So, thank you [clears throat] Evan for 337 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,320 going to slide eight and now on on page 338 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,240 12 339 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,880 based on your description of what the 340 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:05,120 act the expectations will be for us. Um, 341 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,600 this the data in the packet leads me to 342 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,920 believe we're already we're already on 343 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,240 the right track. We're already moving 344 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,880 toward a lot of the outcomes that the 345 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,680 act seems to want counties in the state 346 00:14:17,680 --> 00:14:19,680 to achieve. Is that is that what you see 347 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:20,959 in the data as well? 348 00:14:20,959 --> 00:14:22,720 >> I think we feel fairly confident that 349 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,240 we're in a good place. Like we're still 350 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:25,600 going to have to continue to make some 351 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:26,959 changes. We're going to have to do some 352 00:14:26,959 --> 00:14:28,880 additional work. We want to assure like 353 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,040 services are sustainable in our county 354 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,800 and that we have these resources for 355 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,199 families. But I think um we as a child 356 00:14:35,199 --> 00:14:36,720 protection team and a prevention team 357 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,480 see our county is in a pretty good place 358 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,985 for implementation. 359 00:14:40,985 --> 00:14:41,600 [snorts] 360 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,440 >> And I think we've really seen child 361 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,160 protection numbers go down at the courts 362 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,600 quite a bit. I mean, since I started, 363 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,720 um, we used to have four judges that did 364 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,760 child protection, we're down to three. 365 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,600 And the our basically our case loads in 366 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,079 child protection are manageable. We can 367 00:15:02,079 --> 00:15:04,079 spend a lot of time with the families, 368 00:15:04,079 --> 00:15:08,079 which is makes a big difference. Um, I 369 00:15:08,079 --> 00:15:11,040 went to a national conference 370 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,959 uh in Minneapolis. I think it was March. 371 00:15:14,959 --> 00:15:18,959 And there was a judge there from Nevada. 372 00:15:18,959 --> 00:15:22,800 And she said that she only had I think 373 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,160 it was like every 15 minutes she had a 374 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,240 new family that she had to address in 375 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,120 child protection. And we usually have an 376 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,639 hour to deal with a family where you 377 00:15:34,639 --> 00:15:36,800 know the they may start talking with the 378 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,800 workers and their attorneys and then 379 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,279 they come into court and we address how 380 00:15:41,279 --> 00:15:43,920 things are going. So we have the time 381 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,920 and I I just I think the numbers are 382 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,320 going down and a lot of that has to do 383 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,519 with prevention beforehand before you 384 00:15:51,519 --> 00:15:54,000 have to remove the kids from the home. 385 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,800 if you can make it work, get the, you 386 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,360 know, however it may be. If you have a 387 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,279 parent that can take over while another 388 00:16:01,279 --> 00:16:03,440 parent gets into drug treatment or 389 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,680 something like that. [snorts] So, the 390 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,446 numbers have really been going down. 391 00:16:07,446 --> 00:16:09,440 [clears throat] 392 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,920 >> Nikki, can you talk to slide 12? I mean, 393 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,480 I look at that one and I know our 394 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:15,961 numbers are smaller than either 395 00:16:15,961 --> 00:16:17,279 [clears throat] Henipin or Ramsay, 396 00:16:17,279 --> 00:16:19,680 right, in the BIPO, but when I look at 397 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,000 those percent decreases, 398 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,000 that's tremendous work in bringing those 399 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,000 disparities much closer together, which 400 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,000 is ultimately what this act is about. 401 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:28,639 Correct. 402 00:16:28,639 --> 00:16:30,800 >> Correct. Yep. And I think we we see that 403 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,399 in our utilization in our family 404 00:16:32,399 --> 00:16:34,480 resource center. We see that in our 405 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,959 educational and truency work as well. 406 00:16:36,959 --> 00:16:38,639 And really like when when we talk about 407 00:16:38,639 --> 00:16:40,000 the families that are in our court 408 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,000 system, it's the prevention work has 409 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,759 really been about how do we just shift 410 00:16:43,759 --> 00:16:46,639 everybody upstream. So we're still going 411 00:16:46,639 --> 00:16:48,720 to have these difficult cases, right? 412 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,199 But we've we've also um cut cut our 413 00:16:51,199 --> 00:16:53,040 county attorneys from two to one in in 414 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,360 our child protection cases. So it's 415 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:56,959 really about how do we move everything a 416 00:16:56,959 --> 00:17:00,160 little upstream? And we've seen that in 417 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,040 our our disparities um data of like how 418 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,720 do we move those families a little bit 419 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,839 more upstream and out of our system. 420 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:10,160 >> Are we allowed to make comments, Katie? 421 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:10,640 >> Of course. 422 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,559 >> Is that okay? [laughter] 423 00:17:12,559 --> 00:17:14,640 >> Just so yeah, this is not a question. I 424 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,559 think it's something that that here in 425 00:17:16,559 --> 00:17:18,240 Sky County easily goes without saying, 426 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:19,839 but it probably never should go without 427 00:17:19,839 --> 00:17:23,039 saying. We didn't need the state to tell 428 00:17:23,039 --> 00:17:25,280 us that this was the right work to do. 429 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,439 Suzanne and Barb and Leslie and the 430 00:17:27,439 --> 00:17:29,120 board and everybody at the table was 431 00:17:29,120 --> 00:17:30,240 looking at the data, seeing the 432 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:34,000 disparities and put that work in motion 433 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,480 long before a state mandate came down 434 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,160 and said these are these are the 435 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:39,520 outcomes. This is the work you need to 436 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,080 do. Um just feel like it's important to 437 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,000 call that out every time that happens, 438 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,559 but especially here um because the 439 00:17:46,559 --> 00:17:51,110 results really speak for themselves. 440 00:17:51,120 --> 00:17:52,247 Maybe following [snorts] up on 441 00:17:52,247 --> 00:17:55,039 [clears throat] that on page 15. 442 00:17:55,039 --> 00:17:58,240 So with that said, obviously this really 443 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,679 shows a great tenure. 444 00:18:01,679 --> 00:18:03,600 How does this compare with other 445 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,280 counties like percent of population or 446 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:11,039 any other measure? Um how does that 447 00:18:11,039 --> 00:18:13,679 compare? 448 00:18:13,679 --> 00:18:16,400 >> So go ahead. I was just going to say our 449 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,080 out of home placement is the lowest in 450 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:19,679 the state from any county 451 00:18:19,679 --> 00:18:24,640 percentage-wise. Um, and again, it's really that shift of how do we how 452 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,480 do we continue the funnel where, you 453 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,240 know, our prevention work serves all of 454 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,160 our community and we continue to move 455 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,080 people to the top of the funnel so that 456 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,520 we continue to make the bottom of the 457 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,440 funnel less and less, which is our court 458 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,760 involvement and our odome placement. 459 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,080 >> I would add to that it's the it's the 460 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:41,679 culture of prevention within child 461 00:18:41,679 --> 00:18:43,280 protection. And it's thinking outside of 462 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,000 the box instead of going straight to a 463 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,919 formalized placement either through 464 00:18:47,919 --> 00:18:51,039 court or through a voluntary placement 465 00:18:51,039 --> 00:18:53,360 agreement. It's how do we how do we 466 00:18:53,360 --> 00:18:55,280 maintain safety for the children in the 467 00:18:55,280 --> 00:19:00,080 home while being creative and 468 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,559 reducing the need for a placement that 469 00:19:02,559 --> 00:19:04,720 we know can be traumatic for children in 470 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,320 and of itself. So, it's that 471 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,919 preventative work that goes into the 472 00:19:09,919 --> 00:19:12,320 assessment, the case management case to 473 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,480 continue to keep that child out of home 474 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,960 or in the home in preventing an out of 475 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:21,029 home placement. 476 00:19:21,039 --> 00:19:24,000 » Um, if we could go to page 10, there is 477 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,320 a chart that talks about the parent 478 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,480 support outreach program. So, I'm 479 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,080 wondering if you could just talk to me 480 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,000 about like to those who don't know, what 481 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,679 is that program and then how do you see 482 00:19:33,679 --> 00:19:34,640 it connecting to [clears throat] the F 483 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,760 FRC? Okay. Um, I do the parent support 484 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,520 outreach program and what it is, it's a 485 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,919 voluntary program for families who have 486 00:19:41,919 --> 00:19:44,320 at least one child who is age 10 or 487 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,640 younger or maybe they're expecting their 488 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:47,600 first [clears throat] child and they 489 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,919 have two or more stressors or risk 490 00:19:49,919 --> 00:19:52,640 factors. Um, and the way I see it 491 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,520 connecting to the F FRC is I I pretty 492 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,240 much bring information about the family 493 00:19:58,240 --> 00:19:59,919 resource center to every family that I'm 494 00:19:59,919 --> 00:20:02,000 working with at a minimum. just letting 495 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,440 them know that they exist and that 496 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,039 they're there and what they can find 497 00:20:05,039 --> 00:20:07,679 there. But then when I do my meeting 498 00:20:07,679 --> 00:20:10,320 with them, we do an intake and I learn, 499 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,840 oh, this specific need has has come up. 500 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,200 So then when we're [clears throat] going 501 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,320 through the calendar, I'm like, you can 502 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,240 come on this day and this specific 503 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,400 person is there to address exactly what 504 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,280 you're talking about. Um, sometimes it's 505 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,120 me picking them up and bringing them in. 506 00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:27,200 Sometimes it's we are just meeting there 507 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:28,720 so I can just introduce them to the 508 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,480 space and then we always do a lap around 509 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,000 and they grab whatever resources that 510 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,640 they want. Um lots of families are 511 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,240 looking for that social connection and 512 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:37,600 so we're talking about all of the 513 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:38,880 activities that they can do there that 514 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,960 they can bring their kids that it's you 515 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,240 know such a nice space. So it's it's 516 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:45,919 just embedded in my work and I'm telling 517 00:20:45,919 --> 00:20:47,360 every single family that does the parent 518 00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:48,640 support outreach program about the 519 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,559 family resource center and I've really 520 00:20:50,559 --> 00:20:52,320 seen it 521 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:53,840 do really really cool things for 522 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,120 families. So 523 00:20:55,120 --> 00:20:55,520 >> yes 524 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,039 >> and sorry [clears throat] at the family 525 00:20:57,039 --> 00:20:58,640 resource center when Tracy brings 526 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,360 clients or families in her we're able to 527 00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:03,280 address the basic needs like housing, 528 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,520 health insurance, providing a safe space 529 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,760 for the kids to play and then Tracy can 530 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,760 stay with the family or the parents and 531 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,919 work through some more like other 532 00:21:11,919 --> 00:21:13,600 services or other needs that they need 533 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,640 to address. So we meet their first Maslo 534 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,400 hierarchy of need and then Tracy can 535 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,320 provide the rest. So that's like the 536 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:21,840 relationship between the family resource 537 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,840 center and her program. 538 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:28,630 Thank you both. I appreciate it. 539 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,039 » So the data in the packet and the 540 00:21:31,039 --> 00:21:33,600 narrative itself, it's like it's all to 541 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,960 me paints a very good picture of the 542 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,520 work that's happening and that that 543 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,280 seems to be accurate. We had Wilder here 544 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,840 a couple weeks ago and they presented on 545 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,360 their return on investment findings 546 00:21:45,360 --> 00:21:47,360 which was really I think a conservative 547 00:21:47,360 --> 00:21:49,919 estimate of the ROI 548 00:21:49,919 --> 00:21:52,080 um not capturing the the broadest 549 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,360 possible impact of the F FRC. 550 00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:57,280 I don't see anything in here that like 551 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,679 data wise that says something's going 552 00:21:59,679 --> 00:22:03,039 really poorly. So is there anything from 553 00:22:03,039 --> 00:22:05,600 your perspective that is not going well 554 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:06,880 that would be an opportunity for 555 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,720 improvement if you were here a year from 556 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,400 now or two years from now that you'd say 557 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,480 we really want this aspect of our work 558 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,080 to look different. We know we can do 559 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,070 better. 560 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,480 I think um you know when I think back 561 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,960 about when we started in 2021, there's 562 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,559 always a piece of that because our 563 00:22:24,559 --> 00:22:27,039 community changes and so how do we 564 00:22:27,039 --> 00:22:28,880 continue to like work with our community 565 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,919 about what new issues emerge? Um I think 566 00:22:31,919 --> 00:22:34,960 that like we've got some opportunities 567 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,919 um for some additional peer support for 568 00:22:37,919 --> 00:22:38,880 people that are struggling with 569 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,960 substance abuse. Like some of those 570 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,559 things I think that we could continue to 571 00:22:42,559 --> 00:22:45,200 build on. Um, I think that right now 572 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,600 we're in a a little bit of a challenging 573 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,640 space with a a possible um discussions 574 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,559 around transition. So, I think we've got 575 00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:55,360 some staffing um opportunities that we 576 00:22:55,360 --> 00:22:56,825 can clear up. And then I think we would 577 00:22:56,825 --> 00:22:57,840 [clears throat] certainly like to go 578 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:03,679 back to um additional outreach um and kind of adding some of the 579 00:23:03,679 --> 00:23:04,685 additional services that you 580 00:23:04,685 --> 00:23:07,760 [clears throat] might be a need. 581 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,080 I think I'll follow up on on J on uh 582 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,360 page 13 kind of a followup to that. So 583 00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:15,919 this is number of initiated child mal 584 00:23:15,919 --> 00:23:18,240 treatment assessments and investigation. 585 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,799 Obviously it's trending really well. So 586 00:23:20,799 --> 00:23:24,080 the question kind of similar is in an 587 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,039 ideal world. Okay. What do you suggest 588 00:23:27,039 --> 00:23:28,960 to improve this trend or the rate of 589 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,080 this trend? Let's say the goal is zero. 590 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,640 So it's trending downward. So, what do 591 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,480 you suggest to continue that downward 592 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,640 trend or the or a greater rate of this 593 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,960 trend? 594 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,039 >> I what initially comes to mind for me 595 00:23:43,039 --> 00:23:47,360 when we look at um page 13 is I come 596 00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:49,440 from the lens of as you're talking to 597 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,600 mandated reporters and they're making a 598 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,360 child malreatment report. It's that 599 00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:56,159 ongoing education of mandated supporting 600 00:23:56,159 --> 00:23:58,720 and how can they fit into the prevention 601 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,440 puzzle. I think our school districts um 602 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,559 hospitals do a really good job of having 603 00:24:04,559 --> 00:24:07,840 a different lens since starting this 604 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,679 culture of prevention, but it's that 605 00:24:09,679 --> 00:24:12,000 ongoing education for all mandated 606 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,799 reporters to 607 00:24:14,799 --> 00:24:16,960 be able to connect families rather than 608 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,640 make a child protection report that 609 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,799 enters them into the system regardless 610 00:24:20,799 --> 00:24:22,960 of whether that report is screened in or 611 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,120 screened out. they're they're then in 612 00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:28,080 the system instead of possibly having 613 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,640 preventative resources or places to send 614 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,120 families that would prevent them from 615 00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:35,600 making a mandated report. 616 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,080 >> Can one of you build on that? Because 617 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:39,840 having sat in some of those school 618 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,282 district meetings early on, [cough] 619 00:24:42,282 --> 00:24:43,919 [clears throat] it seems to me that that 620 00:24:43,919 --> 00:24:46,240 was part of the culture, right? we get 621 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,799 to seven unexcused versus preventing 622 00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:51,840 seven unexcused or we wait till the 623 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,600 behavior gets to the point where we call 624 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,600 in child protection. So, how have you 625 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,360 built that partnership? What are you 626 00:24:57,360 --> 00:24:58,657 doing to keep that going? 627 00:24:58,657 --> 00:24:59,840 [clears throat] 628 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,320 I think one of the things I see within 629 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,000 my work in our screening department is 630 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,960 ongoing conversations with schools when 631 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,320 they call because we have the same 632 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,440 reporters call whether it's our 633 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,032 staff or the dean of students 634 00:25:15,032 --> 00:25:16,799 [clears throat] call to make reports. 635 00:25:16,799 --> 00:25:19,840 It's the ongoing relationship and the 636 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,039 ability to challenge um in a friendly 637 00:25:23,039 --> 00:25:25,440 way, right? the ability to have an open 638 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,520 candid conversation about what the 639 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,840 report is, what have they tried, or to 640 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,919 say, "This may not meet criteria for a 641 00:25:31,919 --> 00:25:33,600 child protection response, but we want 642 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,520 to partner with you in a voluntary way 643 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,320 through child welfare." Um, or through 644 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,320 our prevention with St. David's or 645 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,640 Catalaso and Treehouse. Um it is I think 646 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,400 time time has really being consistent in 647 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,480 the response and our screening decisions 648 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,440 around how we are how we are being 649 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,400 mindful of each report and if it meets 650 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:01,520 criteria and it has to be assessed that is one thing and then having that 651 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,600 worker connect with the um mandated 652 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,840 reporter or other professionals in that 653 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,760 child's life to have the conversation 654 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,720 about further resources or the future 655 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,799 plan that would that's more preventative 656 00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:17,520 focused to engage them in what the plan 657 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,679 would be in the future rather than 658 00:26:19,679 --> 00:26:21,679 having child protection be that initial 659 00:26:21,679 --> 00:26:23,360 response. 660 00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:25,679 >> I think additionally like we've changed 661 00:26:25,679 --> 00:26:27,919 our narrative a bit around with schools 662 00:26:27,919 --> 00:26:29,679 and with some of our providers our 663 00:26:29,679 --> 00:26:33,760 mandated reporters around you know get the family to us and we can help 664 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,000 them. And I think we've shifted that 665 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,000 more to like we've implemented mandated 666 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,520 supporter training and our mandated 667 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,640 reporter training to really talk to um 668 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,400 our mandated reporters around how they 669 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,000 can support families without having to 670 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,080 get them to us. And I think the family 671 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,679 resources center is has been crucial 672 00:26:51,679 --> 00:26:53,200 because it's a place they can send 673 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,520 people. The schools know like if a if a 674 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,880 child needs a jacket, they don't have to 675 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,679 wait until it's cold and call on this 676 00:26:59,679 --> 00:27:01,600 family. They can they can get a child a 677 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,120 jacket at the family resource center. 678 00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:05,600 they have a place to go. Um, which I 679 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,240 think has been imperative in in them 680 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,760 being able to support the families 681 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,080 they're working with. I think the other 682 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,080 piece to to the question was um I think 683 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,000 our family resource centers have been a 684 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,400 little bit unique. A lot of family 685 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,640 resource centers kind of have this, you 686 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,240 know, whole level of prevention and 687 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,559 we've been really um particular about 688 00:27:26,559 --> 00:27:28,159 how do we engage our child protection 689 00:27:28,159 --> 00:27:30,080 team and when we started it was really 690 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,279 well by the time they're in child 691 00:27:31,279 --> 00:27:33,440 protection like prevention doesn't 692 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,120 matter anymore. It's too late and it's 693 00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:37,279 not. And so how do we continue to work 694 00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:38,640 with child protection around the issues 695 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:39,840 they're seeing with families and 696 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,600 continue to support families in a 697 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,120 preventative way even when they're in 698 00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:45,760 our deepest system. 699 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,919 And I'd like to say just a couple things 700 00:27:47,919 --> 00:27:52,720 just on what Nikki said about when I 701 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,880 think about what I've seen in the child 702 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,159 protection area in the courts. 703 00:27:58,159 --> 00:28:00,960 Um there [snorts] was a really dark 704 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,399 period during CO where people were not 705 00:28:04,399 --> 00:28:07,679 you know we were doing Zoom hearings and 706 00:28:07,679 --> 00:28:10,080 child protection. People were not going 707 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,760 out in the public. people were not 708 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:16,240 meeting and that one- on-one contact, 709 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,919 you know, being able to go to the family 710 00:28:17,919 --> 00:28:20,799 resource center in person, talk to a 711 00:28:20,799 --> 00:28:23,919 person, have them point in the them in 712 00:28:23,919 --> 00:28:26,159 the right direction. I mean, I think we 713 00:28:26,159 --> 00:28:29,039 lost a lot of families during COVID 714 00:28:29,039 --> 00:28:31,279 where that, you know, we need each 715 00:28:31,279 --> 00:28:34,399 other. We need to appear in person. I 716 00:28:34,399 --> 00:28:37,520 mean, I'm like a closet introvert, 717 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,640 even though I'm a judge, but I need 718 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,679 connection with people, and Ron knows 719 00:28:43,679 --> 00:28:47,120 this. I ins we insist on criminal cases, 720 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,840 people come to the court in person. I 721 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,080 won't sentence a person unless they're 722 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,799 there in person. And it's really 723 00:28:54,799 --> 00:28:58,559 important. And so just having, you know, 724 00:28:58,559 --> 00:29:00,960 a call to say, "Oh yeah, go to this 725 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,159 place and you can find resources versus 726 00:29:04,159 --> 00:29:06,480 coming into [clears throat] a physical 727 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,120 location and actually talking to people 728 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,279 and having a face-to-face conversation 729 00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:13,760 is so important. I've just seen that in 730 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,159 the courts." So 731 00:29:16,159 --> 00:29:18,080 >> I think I I might just add from a 732 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,240 structural standpoint, even just the 733 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,080 integration. And so Samantha is our in 734 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,760 child protection intake screening 735 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,480 supervisor and prevention supervisor. It 736 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,640 was an intentional piece of how are we 737 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,799 structurally organizing the connection 738 00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:34,000 between prevention and deep end service 739 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,399 um to to be able to integrate that 740 00:29:36,399 --> 00:29:39,679 upstream um focus regardless of where 741 00:29:39,679 --> 00:29:41,679 someone's positioned outside the system 742 00:29:41,679 --> 00:29:44,320 or within the system. And I think in 743 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,320 terms of this data on page 13 um we we 744 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,159 continue to hope that we will see a 745 00:29:50,159 --> 00:29:53,039 decrease but it uh the goal is always 746 00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:55,600 going to be zero but more most 747 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,000 importantly are we servicing the right 748 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,799 kids and families in the right spot. So, 749 00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:04,240 can we secure safety and prevention 750 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,159 services outside the child welfare 751 00:30:06,159 --> 00:30:08,320 system? And if we can, and I think this 752 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,720 demonstrates that over time, that we 753 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,320 were servicing families that maybe 754 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:13,440 didn't need to be [clears throat] in the 755 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,000 child protection system. We know about 756 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,880 60% of Minnesota child protection cases 757 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,039 are related to neglect, often the result 758 00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:23,600 of pover impacts of poverty. And so, can 759 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,360 we meet that need outside the child 760 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,360 protection system? And then we have 761 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,679 better ability to meet the needs of our 762 00:30:29,679 --> 00:30:32,720 really deep and most serious that may 763 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,559 need the help, support, and expertise of 764 00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:38,710 the child protection system. 765 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,320 I think in some sense this has kind of 766 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,760 been answered through a multitude of 767 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,520 questions, but just wondering if you 768 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,320 could talk about what opportunities you 769 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,080 look forward to to continue to make sure 770 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,919 you're casting a wide net in and like 771 00:30:49,919 --> 00:30:51,360 everybody that you can help that you're 772 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,279 finding them and getting them to the F 773 00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:56,470 FRC. 774 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,440 Um, I would say this really speaks to 775 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,679 the cultural navigators that we have at 776 00:31:01,679 --> 00:31:04,640 the F FRC location right now. We have 777 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,720 Somali speaking and Spanish speaking 778 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,360 cultural navigators both employed by the 779 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,760 county and via community organizations 780 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,720 like Micasa, CAP, Community Resource 781 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,080 Center and 360s. Um, and having somebody 782 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,919 who looks like you and most importantly 783 00:31:19,919 --> 00:31:22,240 speaks your language is very helpful and 784 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,399 it allows families when they walk in or 785 00:31:24,399 --> 00:31:26,880 if they do call to have somebody that 786 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,720 they can be a bit more honest with than 787 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,559 they would be with like us who look a 788 00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:32,799 bit more government and serious. And it 789 00:31:32,799 --> 00:31:35,679 also allows them to be more open and um 790 00:31:35,679 --> 00:31:37,440 seek other resources that they might not 791 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,679 be aware of. For example, we have the 792 00:31:39,679 --> 00:31:41,919 Mikasa food distribution and families 793 00:31:41,919 --> 00:31:45,360 come in for food and then multiple uh 794 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:46,880 different kinds of families come in for 795 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,559 food and then while they're there, they 796 00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:50,399 realize, oh wait, I can get questions 797 00:31:50,399 --> 00:31:52,799 about housing, about preschool, about 798 00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:54,640 health insurance, or even like a place 799 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,480 to take my kids over the summer for 800 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,600 summer camp. Um, I would like to see the 801 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,240 cultural navigation piece um, expanded 802 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,279 to include Asian-American community and 803 00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:07,440 the um, Native American community. And I 804 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,960 would also like to see languages like 805 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,360 Swahili, Cameron, Vietnamese, and all 806 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,519 those implemented too as well. And I 807 00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:14,640 think that's a really good growth 808 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,200 opportunity that allows us to expand our 809 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,200 net and get everybody that would need 810 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,480 the family resource center. 811 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,240 And I think additionally like it's our 812 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,760 outreach, right, and how we're planning 813 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,760 programs [clears throat] for to reach 814 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,159 every individual in Scott County. Um I 815 00:32:30,159 --> 00:32:31,519 mean I think we see people that are 816 00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:32,960 really struggling. We also see people 817 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,480 that are really doing well and they just 818 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,507 want a place to come and do an activity. 819 00:32:36,507 --> 00:32:38,000 [clears throat] So I think it's it's 820 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,039 that that wide net 821 00:32:41,039 --> 00:32:43,039 >> to the judge's point of community, a 822 00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:44,080 place for community. 823 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,480 >> Absolutely. It's just so important. And 824 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,559 then the one thing about getting the, 825 00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:50,559 you know, the numbers to zero. And this 826 00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:54,080 is where my, you know, experience as a 827 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,600 judge is, [clears throat] 828 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:56,880 you know, there's always going to be 829 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:01,039 cases involving sexual abuse, physical 830 00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:03,200 abuse that may not be related to 831 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,720 poverty. We see those cases. And you 832 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,360 know, good families, you from the 833 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,120 outside, they look fine. They don't need 834 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,320 resources, okay? But there's something 835 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,880 going wrong seriously in that family. 836 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,640 And that's where the, you know, the 837 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,360 mandated reporters that the kids from 838 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,000 the schools are able to report that. 839 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,600 has nothing to do with the family 840 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,760 resource center. But I don't think the 841 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,600 number is ever going to go to zero 842 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,600 because it shouldn't because I want to 843 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,559 make sure that, you know, that schools 844 00:33:34,559 --> 00:33:39,519 and people, teachers know when that make 845 00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:41,600 kids feel comfortable to disclose if 846 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,279 that is happening. So, I don't know if 847 00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:45,039 it'll ever go to zero is what I'm 848 00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:45,760 saying. A 849 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,200 >> and with that, like that's where our 850 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,880 child protection team wants to spend the 851 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,720 most time, right? Like that's where if 852 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,120 we if we get those cases lowered, we we 853 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,039 get our case loads lowered, like those 854 00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:56,399 are the families that we can spend the 855 00:33:56,399 --> 00:33:57,120 most time with, 856 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,870 >> right? 857 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,399 » All right. I have another question. Um 858 00:34:04,399 --> 00:34:05,919 Nikki, you touched on this a little bit, 859 00:34:05,919 --> 00:34:08,639 the transition that's being considered 860 00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:12,320 for moving from the county operating the 861 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,359 service to a community provider really 862 00:34:15,359 --> 00:34:16,320 operating [snorts] 863 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,960 the service. And based on everything 864 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,720 you've said, the panel here has said, 865 00:34:20,720 --> 00:34:24,720 all the data, it again seems like it's 866 00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:28,000 going exactly the way we want it to. 867 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,159 um which maybe makes that it could make 868 00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:32,399 it a difficult transition to to let that 869 00:34:32,399 --> 00:34:34,320 go and trust a community partner to 870 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,919 deliver that [clears throat] maybe to 871 00:34:35,919 --> 00:34:37,520 the same level even more effectively 872 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,720 than the county has been providing it. 873 00:34:40,720 --> 00:34:43,679 What going forward 874 00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:46,560 would you have us do and us like as a 875 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,399 Scott County I'm saying that in two ways 876 00:34:48,399 --> 00:34:50,079 as a Scott County resident as a Scott 877 00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:52,639 County employee what would you have us 878 00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:55,520 do to ensure the ongoing success of 879 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,280 this? So you, Suzanne, Nikki, everybody 880 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:58,880 at the table, you have ready access to 881 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,520 everybody here, all 42 business units in 882 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,119 the county. It's easy for me to bump 883 00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:04,560 into you in a meeting and then we can 884 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,079 talk about what can the library do to 885 00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:08,000 support the F FRC or what can our 886 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,680 volunteer coordinator do to support the 887 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,440 F FRC? 888 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,280 If those are not the right connections 889 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,480 from a staff standpoint, what can the 890 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,560 rest of us do to to make sure that 891 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,119 fabric that your folks have so carefully 892 00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:23,760 and thoughtfully woven of that culture 893 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,240 of prevention, how do we make sure that 894 00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:28,079 stays strong and stays connected to a 895 00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:30,480 community provider? So, that's one. What 896 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,720 would you have us Scott County do? And 897 00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:34,320 then what would you have us as residents 898 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,800 do to make sure the community provider 899 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,079 has the support it needs? Um I so I I 900 00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:42,800 think it's it's it's a complicated sort, 901 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,480 right? We we want to make sure with any 902 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,320 community or organizations we're aligned 903 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,000 with what our values are for the family 904 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,240 resource center. Um and our family 905 00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:52,000 resource center has really been built on 906 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,920 our community organizations, our 907 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,079 nonprofits, our community, our parent 908 00:35:56,079 --> 00:35:58,079 advisory committee and our county 909 00:35:58,079 --> 00:36:00,000 services. So I think from a county 910 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,520 perspective like it would be important 911 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,359 for those services to continue to be 912 00:36:03,359 --> 00:36:05,040 present at the family resource center 913 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,520 even when a community provider um may be 914 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,280 leading the work. So our housing 915 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,040 support, our library support um you know 916 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,040 all of those services, their financial 917 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,640 assistance, all of those things that are 918 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,520 present today um we would want them to 919 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,000 continue with a community organization. 920 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,040 Um we we are hopeful to to really walk 921 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,359 through together of a transition. So, we 922 00:36:27,359 --> 00:36:28,480 would want to work with our community 923 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,800 about what they continue to value in our 924 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,240 family resource center, our parent 925 00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:34,240 advisory committee about what they see 926 00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:36,240 as important, our together with Ken 927 00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:38,320 steering committee around what what are 928 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:39,839 really the the values and the things 929 00:36:39,839 --> 00:36:41,200 we're doing that we want to see a 930 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,560 community provider continue to do. Um, 931 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,800 you know, we we've been really proud of 932 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,800 the work and connecting it to our our um 933 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,200 child protection assessments. Um, we 934 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,119 also know like the community has a voice 935 00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:56,560 in this and how do we continue to 936 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,720 respond to that and make sure that we're 937 00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:00,560 doing what the community also is asking 938 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:06,470 of of our family resource center. 939 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,079 » I know we look a lot at our child 940 00:37:08,079 --> 00:37:09,599 protection [clears throat] outcome and 941 00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:11,440 that tells us a lot about how well the 942 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,440 FRC is doing. Are there any other areas 943 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,280 that you see positive outcomes occurring 944 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:21,990 in due to the impacts of the FRC? 945 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,320 So, I think I mean we've heard from 946 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,760 other departments, you know, we've 947 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,920 worked with child support and we hear um 948 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,680 from child support like they've had some good opportunities at our family 949 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,240 resource center. Um I think that like 950 00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:36,640 we've we've seen some outcomes with our 951 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,320 housing services and our prevention 952 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,320 culture and housing and having housing 953 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,560 present at the family resource center. 954 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,480 Um I think that we're hopeful and and 955 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,320 it's a really difficult thing to 956 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,960 evaluate, right? But um how are we 957 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,480 making sure that we're reaching families 958 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:53,920 that are feeling like they've gotten 959 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,280 what they need at the family resource 960 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,880 center? And I think this coming year 961 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,960 could be a year um that we take a look 962 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,720 at like some of that survey data. I know 963 00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:03,119 a couple years ago we did um like 50 964 00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:04,880 cups of coffee with our community. So 965 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,400 how are we hearing back from them about 966 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:11,861 whether or not this is working? 967 00:38:11,871 --> 00:38:12,800 [clears throat] 968 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,200 And I I might just add um I think 969 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,920 Nikki's um point of the community like 970 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,920 this was really communitydriven. And so 971 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,160 this idea I think Jake you referenced 972 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,040 sort of the the work at the onset. This 973 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,760 work about um how do we serve and reach 974 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,079 kids and families differently came from 975 00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:31,839 community connection. It came from 976 00:38:31,839 --> 00:38:34,079 community conversation. And what we 977 00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:36,960 heard is how do you find a place where 978 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,880 um essentially it's a one-stop shop. 979 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,480 Parents talked about the difficulty if 980 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,320 you don't have transportation. How do I 981 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,079 get to one place for one service and 982 00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:46,160 somewhere else for a different service? 983 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,920 And so this is about um this if we are 984 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,839 successful in a transition to a 985 00:38:51,839 --> 00:38:54,240 community provider, it is about 986 00:38:54,240 --> 00:38:55,839 government taking a new and different 987 00:38:55,839 --> 00:38:57,920 role. [clears throat] Um and so it is 988 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,320 opportunity and sure is it can be scary 989 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,720 in that. Um, but we have an opportunity 990 00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:05,760 to hear from community and we have since 991 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,119 2017ish and we will need to continue and 992 00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:11,119 that voice of community probably gets 993 00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:13,599 even more important as we approach the 994 00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:15,920 transition for how is it going, what 995 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,920 does community need and how do we 996 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,920 leverage our parent advisory council as 997 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,240 parents with lived expertise to say how 998 00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:24,480 is it going and increase sort of our 999 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,280 sharing of power with them as we move um 1000 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,839 to a new uh evolution of the F FRC 1001 00:39:29,839 --> 00:39:33,270 service delivery. 1002 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,359 I think that's thank you Suzanne for 1003 00:39:35,359 --> 00:39:36,560 that. I think that connects with 1004 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:37,920 something else I was thinking about like 1005 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,240 as time goes on as this evolves and 1006 00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:42,480 changes and and hopefully transitions to 1007 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,000 more comm community even more community- 1008 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,839 based what kind of data would you all 1009 00:39:45,839 --> 00:39:47,440 like to see or would you like to collect 1010 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,119 in the future to know it's having the 1011 00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:51,520 impacts um that it should or that you 1012 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,630 expect? 1013 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,079 Maybe it's more about that survey data 1014 00:39:56,079 --> 00:39:56,640 or 1015 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,200 >> I think um you know this this recent 1016 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,119 return on investment like it I think it 1017 00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:03,920 gave us a small picture um and I think 1018 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,599 those are discussions we'd also like to 1019 00:40:05,599 --> 00:40:06,960 continue to have with a community 1020 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,680 organization. We absolutely would want 1021 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,720 to continue to provide um or you know 1022 00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:14,400 get data around our child protection 1023 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,560 team like are those cases continuing to 1024 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,400 stay low? Our out of home placements 1025 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,160 continuing to stay low. how is that 1026 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:21,920 family resource center still serving the 1027 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,119 people to make sure that we're getting 1028 00:40:23,119 --> 00:40:25,280 those families upstream and not in our 1029 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,440 deep end systems? Um, and then I think 1030 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:28,880 we would probably want to work with our 1031 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:33,040 community organizations around what's next. Like are we are we seeing 1032 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,960 higher graduation rates? Are we seeing 1033 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,240 kids flourish in school? Are we seeing 1034 00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:40,160 less crime? Like what is the big picture 1035 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,390 for family resource centers? 1036 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,829 Any 1037 00:40:47,839 --> 00:40:49,280 other questions from my co-f 1038 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:49,760 facilitator? 1039 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,599 >> Well, I have an offbook compound 1040 00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:53,680 question that I've been dreading asking, 1041 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,720 but so again, listen to the presentation 1042 00:40:56,720 --> 00:40:59,760 reviewing the presentation. Uh there are 1043 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,040 I'm going to use my own terms, right? 1044 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,359 There are there's a reconceptualization 1045 00:41:03,359 --> 00:41:05,200 of of prevention, right? You mean the 1046 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,800 prevention that spectrum is is longer. 1047 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,480 You've made that point. And we have 1048 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:09,760 different inputs in the system. You've 1049 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,359 got more generalized outreach to 1050 00:41:11,359 --> 00:41:13,200 families who who fire risk factors. 1051 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,359 You've got education to mandatory 1052 00:41:15,359 --> 00:41:17,280 reporters which again is another input. 1053 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,880 You've got uh your honor uh there 1054 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,400 suggesting the family resource center 1055 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,079 will reach a certain point. Does this 1056 00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:26,480 group even anecdotally have a sense of 1057 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,160 in those three phases if you take my 1058 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:33,200 arbitrary uh you know breaking up of of the in of the inputs if you will. Is 1059 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,680 there a place where it's stickiest? Is 1060 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,440 it a place where it's most effective? 1061 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:38,880 I.e. early prevention if you're just 1062 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,319 reaching out to the families maybe they 1063 00:41:40,319 --> 00:41:43,040 don't uh engage in the services or show 1064 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,040 up uh you know to to to leverage some of 1065 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,720 these events I noticed the there the 1066 00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:49,119 drop in outreach there was a drop in 1067 00:41:49,119 --> 00:41:51,440 attendance but that also that correlated 1068 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:52,800 with some other things happening in 1069 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,800 society so again even just on a sort of 1070 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,960 anecdotal level is there a point in the 1071 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,720 process where a specific type of 1072 00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:02,400 outreach or engagement is most 1073 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,880 >> successful or or has the most engagement 1074 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,319 back from the individual if that's 1075 00:42:06,319 --> 00:42:08,400 making sense 1076 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,760 Um so the return on investment study 1077 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,960 would show that that initial engagement 1078 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,160 where you're having the intake you're 1079 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,560 meeting that basic need whether it's 1080 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,240 those concrete supports or the warm 1081 00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:24,160 connection to a service has the most 1082 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:24,880 impact. 1083 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,200 >> Yeah. No no and I'm sorry it's was a 1084 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,040 very again a rambling uh compound 1085 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,720 question. Yeah. Obviously that's where 1086 00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:32,400 the greatest return on investment is. 1087 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,240 But is there a greater amount of sort of 1088 00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:36,319 attrition out because it's not at a 1089 00:42:36,319 --> 00:42:37,520 point where something might be mandatory 1090 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:38,880 or there might be another consequence. 1091 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,880 Do we have any sense of you know right 1092 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,640 once we really we get our hands on 1093 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,000 someone in the system they don't trip 1094 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,240 back out they they maintain uh 1095 00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:48,000 engagement with the program or again is 1096 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,880 that a data point we might want to 1097 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:51,280 >> um 1098 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,200 >> yeah I think we could certain go ahead. 1099 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,800 >> Go ahead. So, I think we certainly um 1100 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,880 probably need to take a look at like the re-engagement of families who might 1101 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:05,040 have the most difficult situations and how do we continue to support those 1102 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,640 families. I think when 1103 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,560 >> um our doors opened, we we had some of 1104 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,160 that and because of some staffing 1105 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,079 challenges like we've lost a little bit 1106 00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:14,480 of um that 1107 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,720 >> like walking along with a person a 1108 00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:18,400 little bit um for a longer period of 1109 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,119 time, right? Um, so like families are 1110 00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:22,480 still able to come back, but how do they 1111 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,240 have that personal connection? 1112 00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:25,920 >> Um, and I think really when you talk 1113 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,040 about like this the sticking point, um, 1114 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,200 I think we try and catch all of those, 1115 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,280 but you're always going to have places 1116 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,359 where you can continue to do more, 1117 00:43:35,359 --> 00:43:36,480 right? But I think about like our 1118 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:37,920 father's programming where it's a 1119 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,280 community, anybody can join and we go to 1120 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,920 the Scott County jails. And so, um, some 1121 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,599 of those sticky points I think we've 1122 00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:46,640 tried to 1123 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,280 >> to reach. Um, but I think the the 1124 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,200 outreach is a place that we've seen like 1125 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,599 when we have our our events, our our 1126 00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:56,400 back to school, like it's it's we know 1127 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,119 like um you know having some of those 1128 00:43:59,119 --> 00:44:00,880 things or giving kids backpacks isn't 1129 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,160 necessarily going to prevent child 1130 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:03,839 protection, but it really offers a 1131 00:44:03,839 --> 00:44:06,160 family a place to go and they really 1132 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,680 it's about getting that word out so 1133 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:08,850 families know that they have somewhere 1134 00:44:08,850 --> 00:44:10,480 [clears throat] to go for whatever they 1135 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:11,680 might need. 1136 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,960 >> Well, that's thank you very much. It's good to to know or hear that that 1137 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,720 broadspectctrum outreach is is having a 1138 00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:19,280 return. Um and because another 1139 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,800 anecdotally in my own experience, right, 1140 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,560 the further upstream you go, the greater 1141 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,880 your your attrition rate because people 1142 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,319 don't there isn't necessarily a sense of 1143 00:44:26,319 --> 00:44:27,920 urgency. So that's a wonderful bit of 1144 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,839 information. Thank you. 1145 00:44:29,839 --> 00:44:31,280 >> Okay. 1146 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:32,720 >> I just want to give an opportunity if 1147 00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:34,560 there if anybody had anything else that 1148 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,119 they thought of uh maybe a answer to a 1149 00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:38,800 question that was asked earlier that you 1150 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:44,950 want a moment to address it. 1151 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,240 All right. Well, then 1152 00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:47,920 >> I want to add something, Katie, before 1153 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,040 we jump on. I usually don't do this, but 1154 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,680 Suzanne, was it like 10 years ago Nikki 1155 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,000 was sitting on one of these panels as a 1156 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,839 social worker? 1157 00:44:57,839 --> 00:45:00,640 >> I think you're right. And you could see 1158 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,760 then her [clears throat] interest in not 1159 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,119 siloing, broadening. You can't do this 1160 00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:10,560 alone. I sat there and was just amazed 1161 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,960 at your thought process and now I sit 1162 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,200 here and watch today what you have 1163 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,760 helped do and your research and your 1164 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,400 support for putting this program in 1165 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,520 place to help our residents. Just kudos 1166 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,240 to you and your commitment to the people 1167 00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:30,079 of Scott County and using and breaking 1168 00:45:30,079 --> 00:45:32,160 that down and broadening and bringing 1169 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,839 people together. Just outstanding data, 1170 00:45:35,839 --> 00:45:38,400 outstanding work. 1171 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,000 Thank you. 1172 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,839 >> Thank you, Administrator Vermillion. 1173 00:45:41,839 --> 00:45:43,359 We'll turn it back to Mr. Chair and the 1174 00:45:43,359 --> 00:45:45,119 commissioner for any I would like to 1175 00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:47,119 start off and I know the board will have 1176 00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:49,200 comments or questions and stuff, but you 1177 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:50,960 know, over the time that I've been a 1178 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,440 commissioner, um the county I think has 1179 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,280 struggled with community engagement. 1180 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,359 we've tried to figure out how to provide 1181 00:45:57,359 --> 00:46:00,240 more outreach, more connection, 1182 00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:03,760 more involvement with the community and that's been a theme that we've 1183 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,040 worked on and had, you know, success 1184 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,960 come and go or or, you know, levels of 1185 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,760 success. And I'm wondering, and I'm like 1186 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,280 Jake, I think I need something 1187 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,920 simplified for me. I think it's mo maybe 1188 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,599 it's a rhetorical question for this 1189 00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:20,160 morning, but I'm wondering um you know 1190 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,160 the family resource center to me seems 1191 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,640 like a portal of to the community, a 1192 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,319 connection, a connection with the 1193 00:46:26,319 --> 00:46:28,560 community. And I my what I need 1194 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,800 simplified eventually is why would you 1195 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:36,720 want to have a nonprofit run this? Why would you want to give up this 1196 00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:39,760 direct county engagement with the 1197 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,160 community and have someone else which 1198 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,000 you may or may not be happy with over 1199 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,920 the time you know and you give up 1200 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,240 control you give up the the portal the 1201 00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:51,520 connections so anyhow that could be 1202 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,440 rhetorical for the future but I don't 1203 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:54,640 know if it needs to be answered today 1204 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,000 but that's my question I would be very 1205 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,680 and I'd be very cautious on on 1206 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,720 giving it up okay you I commissioner 1207 00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:05,440 record. Did you Oh, well, I I said it 1208 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:06,720 was rhetorical, but if you want to 1209 00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:07,599 answer that, [clears throat] 1210 00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:09,760 >> I I think um for me, like my first 1211 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,280 reaction is I don't I don't know that we 1212 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,720 want to give it up. I think we want to build it stronger for our 1213 00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:16,160 community. You know, I think that when 1214 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,960 we saw a metro surge in January, it was 1215 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,599 really a little bit of an eyeopening. We 1216 00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:24,319 are still a county service, right? And 1217 00:47:24,319 --> 00:47:26,319 so families, I think, still find some of 1218 00:47:26,319 --> 00:47:27,760 those opportunities and they get a 1219 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,359 little hesitant around, do I really want 1220 00:47:29,359 --> 00:47:31,839 to go to a county building? Um, so I 1221 00:47:31,839 --> 00:47:33,200 think we want to continue to provide 1222 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:34,880 those services and make that connection 1223 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,200 to the county and and have that 1224 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:38,960 opportunity, but we want to give our 1225 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,400 residents and our community an 1226 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,240 opportunity to feel safe, to feel 1227 00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:43,760 comfortable, to feel like they can ask 1228 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,240 for whatever they need um and not have 1229 00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:48,880 that that government feel of like, oh, I 1230 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,119 don't know. And and I think as a team, 1231 00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:57,040 we struggled a little bit during that um metro surge because we we had to 1232 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,720 balance both, right? like how do we 1233 00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:00,400 serve our community and how do we follow 1234 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,720 laws and how do we how do we react to 1235 00:48:02,720 --> 00:48:04,240 some of those things? And so I think 1236 00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:12,800 some of those um make it difficult for county government to continue to to lead and how do we how do we walk 1237 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,440 along together um to get both of those 1238 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,400 needs met? And Mr. Chairman, I I would 1239 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,240 go back to the original discussions 1240 00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:22,000 which goes all the way back to Pam 1241 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,400 Selvig and Chris Harter. And it was 1242 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,720 really the county board who talked about 1243 00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:28,160 collaboration [clears throat] and 1244 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:29,680 community-led 1245 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,559 and alignment. So we're we're not 1246 00:48:32,559 --> 00:48:34,400 walking away from it. We're still 1247 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,240 providing the infrastructure, the 1248 00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:38,800 capital, and we still have to provide 1249 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,119 some financial resources to make this 1250 00:48:41,119 --> 00:48:43,839 work. But it was really about aligning 1251 00:48:43,839 --> 00:48:45,920 and who was in the best place to do some 1252 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,319 of this community and that engagement 1253 00:48:48,319 --> 00:48:50,160 and outreach. And it really came from 1254 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:51,920 the discussions with the county board as 1255 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,520 we were formulating this and where it 1256 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,760 was going to go. It was aligning those 1257 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,400 to best who could lead and then we are 1258 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,640 still at the table. 1259 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,920 >> Okay. Well, you made a case for not 1260 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,640 doing it, I think, this morning. And and 1261 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,359 um you know, I I'll just think of I 1262 00:49:09,359 --> 00:49:10,960 won't name the categories, but I think 1263 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,200 there's other categories and not really 1264 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,440 related to this at all where we've said 1265 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,680 we're going to kind of shift this over 1266 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,760 to someone else or some other way to do 1267 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,400 this. And then our mindset became 1268 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,559 gradually we don't do that, they do 1269 00:49:24,559 --> 00:49:26,800 that. Um, and I, you know, there's some, 1270 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,960 I think there'd be some of that if you 1271 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,359 had a nonprofit, but I I know you you 1272 00:49:31,359 --> 00:49:33,839 have to be somewhat vitally or you need 1273 00:49:33,839 --> 00:49:36,079 to be vitally connected. I get that part 1274 00:49:36,079 --> 00:49:38,720 of it, but again, I'll go back to Jake. 1275 00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:42,800 I I need it simplified for me. Okay, Mr. 1276 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,559 Chair, if I if I might. Um, I think the other piece though, Family Resource 1277 00:49:46,559 --> 00:49:48,960 Center is a national model and really 1278 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,319 Scott County has done it different, 1279 00:49:50,319 --> 00:49:52,079 which doesn't mean right or wrong. It 1280 00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:54,400 but we did do it different. the vast 1281 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,400 majority of family resource centers 1282 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,280 across the country are operated by 1283 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,520 community organizations. So, we are sort 1284 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,640 of the unique piece. Um, and I and and 1285 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,359 so is there fear? Sure, there's fear. 1286 00:50:07,359 --> 00:50:10,000 Like I I will be the first to say we've 1287 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,319 invested a lot of time, energy, sweat, 1288 00:50:12,319 --> 00:50:14,559 tears, relationships into the 1289 00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:17,119 development um of what the family 1290 00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:20,800 resource center is. Um, and also I think 1291 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,079 there's an opportunity that we just 1292 00:50:22,079 --> 00:50:24,079 simply have a new role within it where 1293 00:50:24,079 --> 00:50:26,000 maybe instead of the driver, we're 1294 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,559 co-pilot or we're the backseat driver. 1295 00:50:28,559 --> 00:50:30,800 Um, but we're not the sole driver. And 1296 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,559 so this is just an opportunity to I 1297 00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:34,880 think reframe it and to be in alignment 1298 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,200 with really um what the evidence of the 1299 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,079 model demonstrates is that um broader 1300 00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:42,400 impact both reductions in our deep end 1301 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,960 as well as other um impacts like 1302 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,720 self-sufficiency and education and 1303 00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:49,200 literacy over time. And so I don't I 1304 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:50,720 think it's critical. We're not walking 1305 00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:53,520 away. I don't I don't think it is at all 1306 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,079 about that. Is about how we reinvision 1307 00:50:56,079 --> 00:50:58,000 sort of our role with a community 1308 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,270 organization. 1309 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,040 » Thank you. All right. Other comments 1310 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:04,640 from board members. 1311 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,160 >> Thank you. Um thanks for the 1312 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,000 presentation and first off I just want 1313 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,680 to say thanks to everybody here in the 1314 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,640 room and and those who worked on this 1315 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,319 initiative earlier who aren't with us 1316 00:51:14,319 --> 00:51:17,920 anymore. Uh, thank you because I I think 1317 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,640 early early on the board was involved in 1318 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,640 talking about this and it all it always 1319 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,839 was our lane here is to have better 1320 00:51:27,839 --> 00:51:31,200 outcomes for children and and not have 1321 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,440 them need the deep end services. And I 1322 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:34,880 just really thank you for keeping the 1323 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,480 eye on the prize there because it's 1324 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,680 shown that that we can do that and we I 1325 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,359 think we can use that lesson as we look 1326 00:51:41,359 --> 00:51:44,640 at other things the county needs to do 1327 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,400 and make sure we're keeping that 1328 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,640 long-term outcome in mind. I also at 1329 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,880 least my memory is that some of the 1330 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,200 reason um the transition to a community 1331 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:54,720 partner was looked at is because I think 1332 00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:57,040 this board said you must [laughter] um 1333 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:58,960 or really encouraged it because of 1334 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,640 funding and things like that. So, I 1335 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,559 appreciate Commissioner Alwark's 1336 00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:04,880 comments and and Suzanne talking about 1337 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,559 how 1338 00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:07,599 maybe we don't even call it 1339 00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:09,200 transitioning anymore, but it's a 1340 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,000 reframing and I hope we always will be a 1341 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,200 key partner on those outcomes because I 1342 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,920 think the Family Resource Center can 1343 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,599 achieve outcomes that maybe aren't in 1344 00:52:19,599 --> 00:52:22,000 our government lane, which is great, and 1345 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,920 allowing other folks to accomplish them 1346 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,660 while we stay in our lane um is 1347 00:52:26,660 --> 00:52:29,280 [clears throat] good. So, my comments 1348 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,400 really were about potential, I don't 1349 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:33,920 want to say even transitioning, but 1350 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,079 reimagining and and broadening of the 1351 00:52:36,079 --> 00:52:38,480 family resource center. Just a couple 1352 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,200 things. I I would love a couple comments 1353 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,440 on no matter how that happens, if it 1354 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,359 happens, 1355 00:52:45,359 --> 00:52:47,520 what part of the partnership will the 1356 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,599 county hold on to tight to make sure 1357 00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:52,079 we're achieving those those outcomes? 1358 00:52:52,079 --> 00:52:54,240 And then for especially for my district, 1359 00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:56,960 for district one, really seeing the um 1360 00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,040 work to get those resources out to the 1361 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:00,880 rest of the county, not just our primary 1362 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,520 location, has been really important. And 1363 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,440 just wondered if anybody could comment 1364 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,040 on kind of long-term thoughts about that 1365 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:10,880 because I I know it takes a while. It 1366 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,240 takes a while to get people to 1367 00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:14,240 understand it's it's a worthwhile place 1368 00:53:14,240 --> 00:53:16,480 to go to to get resources, can help, 1369 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:17,839 especially when it's, you know, two 1370 00:53:17,839 --> 00:53:19,200 hours on Wednesday and two hours on 1371 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,520 Monday or whatever. But what's the the 1372 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,359 long-term thought about that? So, thank 1373 00:53:23,359 --> 00:53:25,920 you. 1374 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,240 >> I think our long-term thought is really 1375 00:53:28,240 --> 00:53:30,400 ho how do we how do we continue to 1376 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,160 expand that to areas that are most 1377 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,920 reachable for families? Like, do we do more working with our schools and 1378 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,200 have um traveling for things like that 1379 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:40,480 so we can make sure that we're 1380 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,000 consistent. We're getting the word out. 1381 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,160 And you know, unfortunately with like 1382 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:45,599 some of the staffing issues we've had, 1383 00:53:45,599 --> 00:53:47,359 those are the the locations that 1384 00:53:47,359 --> 00:53:49,839 sometimes suffer the most um because we 1385 00:53:49,839 --> 00:53:51,520 want to make sure we're available to as 1386 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,920 many people as we can be. Um but I think 1387 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:55,760 it would be reimagining how are we still 1388 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:56,960 available in those communities 1389 00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,559 consistently and how are we doing some 1390 00:53:58,559 --> 00:54:00,640 of that outreach to make sure we're 1391 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:05,829 reaching the community. 1392 00:54:05,839 --> 00:54:07,680 » Oh, go ahead. 1393 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,680 I [clears throat] just want to also say 1394 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,760 how much your work is appreciated. I 1395 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:12,960 think Nikki, you mentioned that you've 1396 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,079 cut that in half pretty much the uh 1397 00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:18,400 cases coming to my office which allowed 1398 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,160 me to reallocate some resources in my 1399 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,640 office. Um so it's really appreciate the 1400 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,880 great work that you guys are doing and 1401 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,720 uh we can keep the lawyers out of your 1402 00:54:26,720 --> 00:54:28,400 way and let you guys do your do your 1403 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,880 job. Um it's been working out great and as you know we're there if you need 1404 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,359 us. But uh excellent excellent work by 1405 00:54:35,359 --> 00:54:36,160 your group 1406 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,967 >> and and our lawyer is pretty great, 1407 00:54:38,967 --> 00:54:41,990 [laughter] 1408 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:42,960 » Commissioner Bear. 1409 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,680 >> Thank you. [clears throat] Yeah, this feels like I mean we've we've 1410 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:46,640 talked about this. We're going to 1411 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,240 continue to talk about it and rustle 1412 00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:52,400 through it uh in a good way, which is great. This just feels like I 1413 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,440 mean there are good results. Um, 1414 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,319 and it potentially is changing from what 1415 00:54:58,319 --> 00:55:01,200 we originally envisioned and maybe not, 1416 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,119 but it does feel like, and I hate to be 1417 00:55:03,119 --> 00:55:04,800 cliche, but what does it say? You know, 1418 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,800 good is enemy of great. It feels like we 1419 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,960 could be at a spot to where we're 1420 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:10,880 satisfied. Good things are happening. 1421 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,640 It's not a bad It's really not bad. Um, 1422 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,640 but it does also feel like this is just 1423 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,040 something that could be even better, 1424 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,839 which I think we all want. But are we 1425 00:55:21,839 --> 00:55:24,079 willing to risk? because it's good. It's 1426 00:55:24,079 --> 00:55:25,920 good right now. And government tends 1427 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,800 just generally tends to be okay. We got 1428 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,119 something good. Let's just kind of stay 1429 00:55:31,119 --> 00:55:33,200 and cuddle that when it's like, well, 1430 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,440 maybe one more step and we can be great. 1431 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,520 But but but yeah, there's a lot of 1432 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:38,960 butts. And it just feels like this is 1433 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,480 that 1434 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,599 um that it could be great, could be 1435 00:55:43,599 --> 00:55:45,920 better, and not to say that it's not 1436 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,559 good. So, I want to be clear it and and 1437 00:55:48,559 --> 00:55:51,440 it's fall and you know this has been a 1438 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,400 baby that's you have all seen grow up 1439 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,799 and oh it's going to get on a big yellow 1440 00:55:56,799 --> 00:55:58,240 bus and go to kindergarten. I don't 1441 00:55:58,240 --> 00:56:02,160 know. Um it's my baby. Like I get that 1442 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,440 too. But it does just feel like 1443 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,440 it's it's it's ready for this. Like I've 1444 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,119 always been bullish and now lately I've 1445 00:56:09,119 --> 00:56:12,000 said still bullish but it's tarnishing a 1446 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,240 little bit. And not because it's bad, 1447 00:56:14,240 --> 00:56:16,480 because it's good, but because I feel 1448 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,400 like we need to take some steps to make 1449 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,119 it greater, better. I don't think the 1450 00:56:21,119 --> 00:56:23,520 county would ever 1451 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,839 completely step away from this and here 1452 00:56:25,839 --> 00:56:27,839 you go, whoever, if you can find someone 1453 00:56:27,839 --> 00:56:30,720 to do that. Uh, it always felt like, and 1454 00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:32,000 boy, this will really date me, but felt 1455 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,839 like a mall concept where Scott County 1456 00:56:33,839 --> 00:56:36,160 would always be an anchor tenant to 1457 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,799 whomever, uh, the multitude hopefully 1458 00:56:38,799 --> 00:56:41,440 would be that would be in this. It's got 1459 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,200 to be a better analogy these days. Malls 1460 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,040 are dying. But of this mall of different 1461 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:46,880 storefronts of of the main street, a 1462 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:48,480 main street of just different storefrs 1463 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,160 that's going to meet people where 1464 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,000 they're at, different nonprofits that 1465 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,359 are with us today in the county or yet 1466 00:56:55,359 --> 00:56:57,920 to be uh met and introduced to 1467 00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,920 throughout the country or the world that 1468 00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:05,040 are doing things like this. So that's just my not caution, but just my 1469 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,359 encouragement is that 1470 00:57:07,359 --> 00:57:10,319 I do believe this county is bold, is 1471 00:57:10,319 --> 00:57:13,599 willing to take calculated risks, to be 1472 00:57:13,599 --> 00:57:17,760 um to venture away from good and risk 1473 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,119 being great. Um I I just hate to see 1474 00:57:21,119 --> 00:57:22,640 programs and I'm not saying that this is 1475 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,040 there but it could be where it just 1476 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,599 becomes good and governmenty that the 1477 00:57:27,599 --> 00:57:30,400 next group at this table you know adds 1478 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:34,720 something or you and it just never quite 1479 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,839 got to its potential. 1480 00:57:37,839 --> 00:57:40,240 So that's just my encouragement, not 1481 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:44,480 caution, but just encouragement that we 1482 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,559 look to what we originally had talked 1483 00:57:46,559 --> 00:57:49,119 about, understanding things change, but 1484 00:57:49,119 --> 00:57:51,839 could this be even better? And are we 1485 00:57:51,839 --> 00:57:53,839 willing to take that risk? And I think 1486 00:57:53,839 --> 00:57:56,160 we are. So 1487 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:57,359 thank you for all the great work that's 1488 00:57:57,359 --> 00:57:58,559 happened. I mean, great work has 1489 00:57:58,559 --> 00:58:00,160 happened. And I again, I want to 1490 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:01,920 clarify, I'm not saying that good things 1491 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,520 are not happening. Good things are 1492 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,880 happening. and it just feels we're 1493 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,400 almost there. 1494 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,960 >> So, Mr. Chairman, your staff in the work 1495 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,119 session on the budget is making that 1496 00:58:13,119 --> 00:58:16,000 recommendation to make the next step 1497 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,359 that we would be one of the elements of 1498 00:58:19,359 --> 00:58:21,680 the first stop shop of the F FRC. We're 1499 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,200 still going to be there. We're still a 1500 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,680 tenant. We are still a financial backer 1501 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,599 of it. But the recommendation in the 1502 00:58:27,599 --> 00:58:32,549 next budget is to move forward. 1503 00:58:32,559 --> 00:58:35,280 » And Mr. Mr. Chair, if I might um offer a 1504 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:36,880 comment in response to Commissioner 1505 00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,839 Wcman's um I think question around like 1506 00:58:39,839 --> 00:58:42,319 what's our vision for if there is a 1507 00:58:42,319 --> 00:58:44,240 transition, what role do we play in 1508 00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,160 that? And I think as we have talked 1509 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,000 about that internally like we are 1510 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,240 prepared, we've got um I'll I'll name 1511 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,720 her Samantha would be identified as sort 1512 00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,760 of that bridge. And so walking closely 1513 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,799 alongside a partner if it's six months a 1514 00:58:58,799 --> 00:59:01,280 year with intentional steps around 1515 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,680 transition. Ultimately we want the 1516 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,680 community provider right to own that and 1517 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,760 we want to help support it. But I do 1518 00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,160 think there will be um close integration 1519 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,640 as we walk through any sort of a 1520 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:19,270 transition in the upcoming year. 1521 00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,160 » All right. Any additional comments or 1522 00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,960 questions? I don't know. I I I want to I 1523 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,200 guess say a little bit more. I if we 1524 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:28,720 have a nonprofit that's chomping at the 1525 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,079 bit and they are going to do a fabulous 1526 00:59:30,079 --> 00:59:31,920 job and make it better, I would who 1527 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,000 would um stand [clears throat] in the 1528 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,319 way with that, you know, but if we're 1529 00:59:36,319 --> 00:59:38,000 trying to talk somebody into taking it 1530 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:39,359 and we're uncertain of how they're going 1531 00:59:39,359 --> 00:59:43,920 to do, that's another thing. Um so um 1532 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:47,359 any I just have caution there. Um 1533 00:59:47,359 --> 00:59:50,319 anybody else? Okay. Well, thank you. 1534 00:59:50,319 --> 00:59:52,559 for your work. Uh, it's vital 1535 00:59:52,559 --> 00:59:55,280 and you're doing a good job and thank 1536 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:59,119 you very much. Yeah.