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facts are facts.
>> Yeah.

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» All right. Okay.

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meeting will um come to order.
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we did not do our prayer today and uh
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haven't done that but um we will at our
next regular meeting and Robert I didn't

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say specifically but it's kind of your
turn if you'd be willing to the next

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meeting.
>> Okay. Um,

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all right. So, for public information,
copy of Nebraska Opens Meeting Law Act

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is available at the county clerk's desk.
Uh, we'll have roll call.

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» Harris,
>> yes.

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» Risig,
>> yes.

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» Meer,
>> yes.

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» Blue,
>> yes.

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» Parsley,

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» stand for the pledge of allegiance.
I aliance to the flag of the United

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States of America and to the republic
for which it stands. One nation under

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God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all.

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Um
I think everybody here um has been here

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many times before. I will just remind
everybody that to speak into your

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microphone.
Uh this is at least being recorded. I

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don't know if it'll be played back, but
um it's at least being recorded and um

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so we need to speak into our
microphones.

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Um and uh we'll go from there. Um,

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all right. Next item is approval of the
agenda and consider any modifications.

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Anything that you have for
>> I don't have anything. Robert, do you

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» modifications? Okay.
>> I move to approve the agenda.

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» Is [snorts] there a second?
>> I'll second.

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» Motion and a second to approve the
agenda as presented.

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Um,
>> Kelly, this call the role.

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» Are you sure?
>> Yes.

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» Okay. Uh, Blue,
>> yes.

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» Risig,
>> yes.

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» Meer,
>> yes.

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» Harris,
>> yes. We're calling the role because the

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um this screen over here is the only one
that is available. And uh so anyway,

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we're going to call the role on these.
>> I'm set up to do it. So,

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» right. Um,
all right. Um,

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just uh remember that the board reserves
the right to go into executive session

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if deemed necessary. Don't anticipate
that today, but um if something comes

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up, we might. Um,
okay. So the first item on the agenda is

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to discuss and consider approval of
resolution for subdivision preliminary

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levies for fiscal year 2026 2027. Miss
Kelly, you just I uh provided you with

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the backup and then prepared it
onto the resolution. What happens is the

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subdivisions
uh let me know by September 1, no,

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August 1st, excuse me, their preliminary
request. And then uh Robert provides us

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with evaluations for each of those
subdivisions.

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Here's all his work.
>> So that's where those numbers come from.

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It just calculates on its own
with formula.

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Robert has double checked my work and
then kind of has triple checked us. So,

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all right.

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And uh
so this is a requirement to that you had

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to present it and then we need to pass
this resolution. But there's still what

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we would call um preliminary or would
the these be finals.

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» This is not We'll do another resolution
for finals,

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» but this is they Robert needs this
information for our budget as a county,

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» right?
>> And refresh my memory. the um Robert the

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the entire
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isn't there a maximum entire levy when
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that we can
be more

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» that's all right
>> each subdivision

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guidelines
>> yeah they have maximum

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» I know that
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50 cents
Yeah. So that's what it always seems

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that we're close to the normally the
fire departments are always maxed out at

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their maximum 04. Yeah. And then they
have some of them have bonds on top of

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» Well, we've only got one with a bond.
>> Uh Gearing Valley got theirs paid off

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and have not added it. I just left the
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to create it if they ever do again.
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» So
on page four of this airport

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You got it marked in yellow. Is there
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check. I thought that they had a levy
limit of that. 035 and so I wanted to

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make sure I couldn't find it. We had a a
levy refresher from Department of

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Revenue and I couldn't find that limit.
So um we we just found it in statute and

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I was right. It was just my choice.
>> How much is the limit

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» at that point? They cannot go above
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general.
>> They're at the

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» They're at it.
>> They're at the limit.

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» They're They're on the limit, but Okay,
but you go to 03747

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» with a bond.
>> That is their bond though.

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» So, we're Okay, that's not exceeding.
So, that yellow line correct me. Okay,

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let's go to the other page. There's
another one over here for Sheep Creek

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Fire District.
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04 as well. So, they're they're not
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either, are they?
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» Is there a reason you noted that with
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that when it it's figured by Sou County.
>> I see Sou County did but

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» I just to make sure with their clerk
that they got that information.

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» But my question was we're not exceeding
pink. There not nobody going for a pink

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postcard here on that I can see.
>> Well, this doesn't have anything to do

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with the pink postcard at all.
>> Can't determine it

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» at this point.
>> No.

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» Okay.
>> And then fire districts are not a part

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of the pink postcard either,
>> but they haven't exceeded a 0.4 either.

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» Correct.
>> Okay. That's my only question.

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» I see minute iss at 0.5,
but they've got a 0.1

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bond.
>> Yeah, they built a new firewall. I guess

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that's what I am.
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» What are you on? What page?
>> Minitar's military fire.

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» Oh, yeah. That's their bond.

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» I didn't see the bond ahead. I just saw
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» Right. And that bond had to be voted on
and they had to do that

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by

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all right.
So um she has prepared the resolution.

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Is there anything else before we um
take action on these items?

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I would move for approval of the
resolution.

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» I'll second that.
>> So, we have a motion and a second to

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approve the resolution
for the um

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political subdivisions.

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Any other discussion?

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Hearing none, we'll vote. Miss Kelly
>> Meyer,

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» yes.
>> Blue,

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» yes. Harris,
>> yes.

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» Rais,
>> yes.

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» All right. Next item is the preliminary
budget discussion. Uh, Robert, you're

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going to lead this.
>> Yes, sir. So, um, if I could, I want to

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take a minute and kind of just do a
little background what led up to this

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year's budget so everybody could have it
fresh in their memory. So, um, going

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back to last year, uh, our total
valuation last year was 4.162, and I'm

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going to abbreviate these because it's
in billions, but it's 4.162 billion for

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last year. Uh, our tax asking last year
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And that's all in your handouts that you
all have. It's it's actually documented

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on there. Um, our general fund levy was
uh 343539.

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Our bond fund last year was 023873
for a total of 367412.

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That's the important number. Remember
last year's um and it's again it's on

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your sheet the last last year's total
levy. So current year, you know, we went

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through a process. We started in May
starting to gather data from everyone,

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you know, getting an initial uh pass.
The board uh and we had some workshops

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and the board had recently was given an
initial draft of what a working draft of

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what we were doing. And you know, each
day it firms up a little bit more. We're

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here today for preliminary budget
approval, which means it [snorts] still

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could change and the board can I mean
obviously make changes anytime they want

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to clear up in time until we until the
board approves it on September 23rd.

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Okay. So for this year, our valuation
came in at uh 4.38

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billion. There was there was some uh
decent growth there. Um the current

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budget as you have it in front of you is
it has a current tax asking of 15,57238.

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So that's about that's an increase from
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Um
>> say that number again. 15 what?

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» 1557238.

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» That's the tax asking down towards the
bottom on your spreadsheet.

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Okay. Okay. It's clear at the bottom in
that yellow column. You saw it. Oh, you

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found it. Okay. So, uh, so that was an
increase from last year's tax asking by

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by only $276,000
and some change. Um,

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so we had a lot of things happen this
year. We did increase our insurance

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amount that each department is
contributing by $100 per month per

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person. So that was about a $300,000
increase that nobody can control. So

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that's actually more than what our
increase is. So that means that people

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have really, you know, cut their budgets
for the most part. Um, and also we have

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step increases this year and the
officials have new salary starting

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halfway through this budget year. So,
uh, I think my point there is that

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really good job I think to get down to
276 really tight and we'll talk about

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some of those things and why I think
it's really tight. But that would get us

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to a general fund levy of 333732
bond fund of 021068

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with a total of 354801.

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So, as is this would um keep us out of a
joint public hearing because our our

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limit on page two, if you see that, our
limit uh

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a limit before we have to go to a tax
authority or tax go to a joint public

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hearing is 15 million 833190.
So, we have up to that. But we have an

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overall authority if we exceeded that
went to the pink postcard we have an

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overall authority of 16.331
million. Okay. So that's kind of the

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stats as they stand at this moment. Uh
those can change if we make changes uh

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to the budget. Um so um I did send this
out to uh the officials

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um Monday Monday evening actually and
everybody most everybody uh reviewed has

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reviewed their budgets. There were a few
changes most of them minor um didn't

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affect the numbers too much. Still
waiting for I think a couple of people

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um and that's okay. I don't expect
anything major out of that. Um, but just

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note that one other thing that I'm
waiting to firm up is I've calculated

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the the bond uh expenditure for this
year and I've reached out to

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DA Davidson to confirm the exact amount.
So I think I'm really close. So if not

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spot on, but I still need to confirm
that. So just know it may change

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slightly.
Um, so, um, so we're, you know, the

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board's goal was 15.5 million, which was
roughly, if you looked across the

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county, be a 1.3%
increase to the budgets. Um, you know,

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we had a we had a couple of departments
that struggled. I know that there were

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lots of conversations
uh in the budget hearings with sheriff

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regarding detention center and the
sheriff's office [snorts] and the board

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gave gave them preliminary approval. um
th those two departments are really you

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know had an had an increase so that puts
a lot of pressure on on the budget for

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this year. Um
so from you know you can see the overall

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and and um by department the summary
that you have and um my recommendation

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is that in order to get down to that
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you'll see you know we had you know
we're not um we're only putting like

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$50,000 in the capital improvements.
we're not um you know really putting any

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socking any money away and actually we
have to take money out of the reserve to

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get that 15.5.
So my recommendation is

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that uh we u go up to something slightly
less than pink postcard limit and and

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actually put that back in the um in the
reserve. Last year we had a reserve of 2

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86 million
and I think that had been the reserve

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the budgeted reserve I should say for
the last couple of years at least and in

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order to get us to that 15.5 mark I had
to take down to 2.5 million don't really

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like that I mean from from my
perspective in my seating

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» say that one more time
>> so whenever you prepare the budget you

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have to to calculate in a reserve what
what you should have left over at the

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end of the year and it's been 2.86 86
million for the last couple of years is

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what's in the budget as a number that
the board can change. And in order to

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hit that 15.5, we had to drop that down
to $2.5 million. So about a $360,000

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decrease.
>> That's the amount going into reserves.

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» The 2.5 would be for this year. Okay.
>> That's right. So technically, if

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everybody spends the amount of money
they're supposed to and all the revenue

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comes in exactly right, you would end up
with $2.5 million left over. carryover

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for the next year which this last year
we had 2.2 million carryover but the

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budget for the carryover was 2.86.
So what that what that really means if

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you look at it analytic analytically is
mean that revenues didn't meet what the

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expectations were more than likely the
biggest piece of it

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» but you don't have any control over
that. Well, if we add it in now, we do.

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We can build an idea, but
>> yeah, a some some of the revenues are

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are really predictable and some of them
aren't. You know, when you look at the

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appointed council fees for like the
county court, uh, and

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it's a wild guess.
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years worth of history, so we can plan
off of that, but we could still be

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wrong. And others are more predictable.
So, you're right.

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» Marshall money that comes for the
detention is

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unpredictable
>> unpredictable timing for sure is

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unpredictable,
>> right?

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» So, you know, getting them all the funds
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struggle.
>> But but my recommendation would be that,

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you know, our our limit before going to
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is um
you pull the right 52 uh

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» let me pull it up here real quick.
Sorry.

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» 1583
>> 15.833. 833190.

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» Yeah. So that's our limit. And what I
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increase that reserve that I currently
have at 2.5

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to 275.
So 2 and 3/4 million. And what that

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does, it gives us a tax asking if you
see on the screen of 15,820238,

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which is about um
you know uh what 13 roughly 13,000

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below the pink postcard limit and that
you know it's not as high as as a

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reserve has been. Um but I think the
main thing we have to focus on this year

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is I think we could certainly get by
with a 75 reserve. We just have to

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communicate with our officials and say,
"Hey, you you've gone through your

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budget numbers once, you've gone through
your budget numbers twice, you've gone

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through a third time, and you need to
meet your budget numbers." You know,

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this thing of people coming in over
budget. Um you the ones that did, you

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know, the board has approved additional
funds this year for the county court

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because they came in under or over,
excuse me. Um Dave's budget this year is

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a little less so. Um, and it sounds like
he's very certain that he is not going

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to see this year. U sheriff, you know,
we already talked about the sheriff in

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in the um um detention center. Um so in
short, my recommendation is to, you

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know, to to actually consider
preliminary number of that 15 820 238.

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The good news is that if you look over
here on the screen, and I'll I'll blow

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this up just a little bit.
It is on your on your sheet. I know it's

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a little hard to read, but you see last
year's total levy, including uh general

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and the bond was 3.67412.
By by going up to that limit or that

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amount that I just mentioned, we would
still be lowering our limit and staying

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out of the pink postcard. So, we'd be at
3.60498.

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I know the board's two goals, at least
the way I heard them, well, actually,

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there were there were There were two
goals. We're meeting the pink postcard.

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Um, but the 15.5,
I'm suggesting that was a goal, but I

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think we should go to this a little
higher number of 1520.

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» Will that 15 the number you just gave us
15820? Will that be the basis for the

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new cap next year? Then they'll figure
the percentage increase off of that.

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» Yeah. So, yeah. So, if you go to the
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» What did you ask, Russ?
>> Pardon?

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» What did you ask?
>> Okay. The number Robert just gave us if

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we ask 15
>> million2 820 238 then that'll be the

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basis for the new cap next year
otherwise our basis for the cap next

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year is going to be the 155.
>> Yeah. So when you when you look at when

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you when you do the calculation you have
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that's where you start and I have it on
the screen. It's on your sheet as well

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on page two. There there are two pieces
to calculating this. Um Every county

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will get a 2%
of a base 2% of last of the prior year

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tax asking. Okay, that's step one. Step
two is real growth percentage and that

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real growth percentage is current year
growth. So this year was $63 million and

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change and the prior year total
valuation 4.162

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which gives you 1.53. So an overall
increase over last year's tax asking by

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3.53%.
So to answer your question, just to

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explain explain for everybody to answer
your question, yes, that number the 15

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820 would be the starting of the
calculation and then we would add growth

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upon we' add 2% and then whatever growth
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» Right? But I would only caution that. So
the goal can't be let's spend more money

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so we have a higher basis so we can
spend more next year. It can't be that.

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» Okay, let's let's look at this
realistic. We never gave up a cold this

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year,
>> right?

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» We don't build this basis of what's the
plan next year.

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» Well,
we don't have the money this year.

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Things aren't getting any cheaper. And
if we don't increase this and not you

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guys freeze another cola, you know, if
if everything goes good, the economy

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turns around a little bit, we get some
reservoirs filled back up, we're going

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to want to give a
we are going to give it out of this

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budget because we aren't going to have
the increase.

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» I can't hear you.

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uh per our discussions between the
officials meetings and the IT committee,

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the phone system we have here is suns
setting in 2029. So that's not going to

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be a cheap spend
>> to get that going. So if we can build

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those reserves a little bit, we can help
soft a little bit and if we don't start

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this when this phone system sunsets,
you're going to shut down business here.

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So
>> when sunsets

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» the phone system, the shortell system
will go away in 2029. So the county is

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going to have to replace the phone
system. It's just it's a reality of the

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world today. So just things to look
forward that we have to plan for because

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» well nothing ever ends. That's for sure.
Every year or it's a radio

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» for you to consider as you go forward
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» if you recall last year during the
budget meetings Chris Lynn brought this

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up to the board and we've been talking
about it over the last year in the IT

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meeting as Kurt said. So it is we don't
have uh we've asked but we the IT

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committee doesn't yet have a number. Uh
Chris Lind is currently looking at three

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or four phone systems. So once we know
what the estimated number is, we'll

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communicate that to everybody, but um
you know, right now we don't know what

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it is, but that is true. At some point
we're going to have to budget for that

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and have the capital for that to spend
on it. And there's a question um and I

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know Heather and I have talked about it
a little bit and we need to do a little

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bit of research as to whether we can use
capital improvement funds for the phone

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system. Um I think we can. I think
Heather thinks we can't, but there's

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some very specific state um statute
language about how you can handle that.

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We both talked about we both need to go
look at that. So uh but still yet the

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current capital um fund that we have we
use that for to borrow throughout

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throughout the year whenever we don't
have a lot of revenue coming in until

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our next tax cycle. Definitely. We've
got to increase something here. Build a

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reserve. Every year since I've been
here, you know, we bought radios. I

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believe the first year, the second year
we put in a million dollar bridge. You

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know, it's every year we we spend, you
know, we buy something big. We bought

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that almost a million dollar gen set.
The the unit itself was 500,000, but

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till they added it all together, did all
the work, I mean, that thing was 700

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something thousand dollars. Everything
we do here is a million dollar project.

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And to pick up a couple hundred thousand
here isn't isn't a lot of money for what

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we spend. Just like I said, if we're
going to be doing a phone system, you're

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probably looking at what half million
dollars more to put that phone system

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in.
>> Just guessing. I don't have any clue. I

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haven't talked to anybody, but
everything we do here is a half million

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dollars.
>> Yeah. Not not to start not to sidestep

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the discussion, but on the phones, there
are some options. You have traditional

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phones, but then you also also have to
telephones that run through your

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computer. You a phone on your desk and
those options sound like they're less

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and actually sound like a better option
for the county. So, but yeah, I would

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say, you know, based on my experience,
you if you're going to get a phone

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system for place this size, it probably
would be a half a million dollars in

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most cases.
>> So, um, Robert, I'm not seeing that

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number, the number you're suggesting on
the paper here anywhere. Give me that

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number again. So yeah, I just changed it
on on there. I wanted to present what I

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what I came in with.
>> 15 how much?

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» 158 220
>> 15 820 238

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» 820 230
>> which is approximately

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13,000.
Yeah, roughly 13,000 under the pink

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postcard public hearing,
>> right?

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» And and that mill levy would be what?
That mill levy would be um the overall

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including the bond would be 360
498

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compared to last year's 3.67412.
>> Right. And that 158

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that includes the bond. Right.
>> It does.

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» Right. So, if you if you look off to the
right, uh the yellow um highlighted

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boxes,
that's the breakdown between the general

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and the bond fund.
And u again, the paper you have won't

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have those adjustments we just made on
the screen.

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» I know I I I missed one of the the big
meetings with the sheriff and everybody

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else. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this
budget does not include a cola for the

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employees.
>> It does not.

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» And and quite honestly, in looking at
it, um, unless you wanted to further

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decrease reserves, which I am not
recommending, I I would be opposed to

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that. Um, that would be, you know, the
only way that you could actually get a

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cold
>> or you hit the pink postcard

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» or hit or hit the pink postcard.
>> So,

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» because you mean the board has
>> what's the ramification of hitting the

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pink guard? you're getting a meeting and
explain your budget, right?

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» That's right.
>> Okay.

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» That's right. So, the board the board
has the board has authority

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» um you know up to 16.331
million.

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» So,
>> which is 500,000 more.

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» Yeah. If I remember right, when we were
talking about coals early on,

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» it was like a 2% was 300,000 or
something like that. And I might be

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wrong.
>> I didn't time to calculate anything I

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think for day
but I will

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» but I'm just I'm trying to remember
>> I think it would be less than that then

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actually
>> less than that

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» okay that might have been a 3% but I
don't recall

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» because the well a couple things we have
certainly we have

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um
step increases for I'm going to suggest

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50% of the people
>> if not the majority

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» every year
>> right And we have

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um
the increases for the elected officials

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and their deputies that will go into
effect in January. And we have increases

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for all the union contracts which is
three

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» increases for the insurance claims as
well.

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» The insurance, right? and and yeah, let
alone whatever benefits besides the just

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the insurance
>> benefits are calculated off of the base

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salary.
>> That's why I don't think that the

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$200,000 increase that we've increased
it is going to pick up all these

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shortcomings and we still haven't, you
know, we still haven't built anything

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for a cola for next year.
>> Well, you know, we we we talk a lot

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» which is this year
>> we talk a lot about, you know, expenses

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and things are increasing and
our employees feel that same increase,

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you know, whether whether it's fuel
prices or food or whatever else,

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construction or products and and our our
you know, our employees are feeling the

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same thing. Uh and without our
employees, we don't have a county, guys.

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I don't know,

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» right? And I think back when we talked
about the

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15.5
million

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rising.
>> Yes, we did. But we didn't have any

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growth figures. We didn't know what the
growth was.

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» But what you said was on the cola part
was that

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we
saw and recognized the issues with the a

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economy
and that

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those folks for sure are in a bad
situation. some of them to the extent

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that they're not going to survive this
>> but

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» that was part of the discussion that you
brought up at that time

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» right
>> when you suggested no cola

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» that the only information I had at that
time was the 155 would keep us under the

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you know it would still let us lower the
mill and that's all I interested is

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considered is lowering that mill keeping
it in line not increasing the mill with

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the a you know
guess environment or whatever you want

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to call it at this point in time. I
think we need to maintain that. I mean,

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we need to look out for our taxpayer
just as much as we do our employees and

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the taxpayer the one that
>> not arguing that

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» No, I I realize I'm just saying we need
to look at that as well. We need to make

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» There's a lot of things to look at.
>> Oh, yeah. Big time. And that's why we're

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here to decide that as as a group.
>> So, but like I said, what I shot out

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there was a number that, you know,
visiting with Robert. We thought maybe

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the 155 would be good. We had no idea on
the growth, which the growth was a

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little better than what he thought it
was going to be, which allows us to move

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it up to the 158
20 and uh still stay under the uh still

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lower the mill,
which is is always been my goal. I I'd

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like to see us do that because with the
constant growth, if we don't back the

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mill down, we need to offset that. We
need to offset the growth somehow. You

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know, give you got to award that back to
the taxpayers.

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But we still got to pay her bills and we
still got to make this thing go.

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So if anybody's got a better idea, get
her out here.

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Well, hopefully this year is just um a
bit of an aberration from the drought

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and the the farming standpoint, but we
don't know that.

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» Could get worse next year.
>> Yeah. What's that?

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» Could get worse. Could get better. Could
>> I'm just saying I I think u

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um it's maybe good to be a little bit
more conservative this year if we can do

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it. I I'm in favor of the and I've
looked at the the cola for non-union

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00:32:54,240 --> 00:33:02,880
employees 2%.
Uh I don't have the figures with me, but

421
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:06,799
I want to say 120,000.
>> I can't I can't remember.

422
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:13,720
» It's less than two. I feel certain that
I'm certain it's less than two, but I

423
00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:13,720
will calculate. It seemed to confirm

424
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:23,440
» and I understand that too that uh our
employees are valued and we want to uh

425
00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:29,200
continue to keep fortunate to have them.
Um,

426
00:33:25,919 --> 00:33:38,799
however, the the taxpayers
are are struggling through and uh I

427
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:45,840
think uh maybe for this year we
um don't consider the cola for those

428
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:51,840
non-UN personnel. I I just and I would
like to see it. I'd like to find the

429
00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:56,559
money for it, but I um I think we need
more auster measures right now.

430
00:33:54,880 --> 00:34:00,080
» But if we don't take this step increase
to get us even next year, we're going to

431
00:33:58,799 --> 00:34:03,840
have to take a little bit of an increase
again in order to go a we're going to

432
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:08,079
this this increase right now is going to
pay the increases on on the new wage

433
00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:12,159
increases we gave on the elected
officials. You know, there's a big jump

434
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:20,119
there. There's a we we voted in a lot of
increases. You know, we've got to

435
00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:20,119
» that that were justified. I think but um

436
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:34,879
» Mike, what are your thoughts?
>> Well, I I agree with Russ and your

437
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:39,599
thoughts.
It's tough right now for everybody and I

438
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:46,720
know out in the regular world there
aren't a lot of cost raises happening

439
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:50,800
and haven't happened for a while and
I worked for the federal government for

440
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:55,679
30 years and I've been employed by the
county and there's a lot of perks to

441
00:34:53,040 --> 00:35:00,960
being in public service. We get a lot of
wage increases and benefits that direct

442
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:05,599
our people don't get but that comes with
a cost

443
00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:13,200
and I think keeping the mill levy down
is good for our customers or our county

444
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:17,520
residents on their taxes.
A lot of times the valuations go up, but

445
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:21,839
by keeping that mill levy down, we can
lower

446
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:24,880
what they pay in property taxes and
that's something we got to keep an eye

447
00:35:23,119 --> 00:35:30,800
on because we have a lot of retired
people out there and they don't get

448
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:38,000
increases and pay
>> and uh I think it'd behoove us to be

449
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:45,680
good stewards of our county residents
money and then hopefully in year do

450
00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:51,359
things might be better and maybe we can
do some of these things. But uh

451
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:57,440
I just feel we need to be very
responsible when it comes to our

452
00:35:53,200 --> 00:36:02,640
constituents money and we have great
county employees and but the vast

453
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:06,480
majority of them are getting an increase
of some sort whether it be a step

454
00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:10,640
increase or whatever.
Um,

455
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:14,960
» but I think this this year I think we
need to go with the 15820

456
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:19,680
because that's going to put some money
into our reserves which we need because

457
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:25,040
we don't know what the future is, uh,
comm center, uh, detention center,

458
00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:29,920
sheriff's office, road departments, all
the all those agencies increase some

459
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:35,760
major cost
and sometimes it's unpredictable

460
00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:40,720
and we need to have that money set
aside. side that we can hopefully fund

461
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:46,320
some of the stuff that you know public
safety is expensive. It's not going

462
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:49,760
down. Uh so we need to be very good
stewards.

463
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:53,680
» Well, the other thing is that if we
don't continue growing that basis, we're

464
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:56,640
we're never going to be able to follow
where we're at right now. We're either

465
00:36:54,960 --> 00:37:01,440
going to have to make some we're either
going to have to follow increase the

466
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:05,440
basis so the basis can step up annually
or we're going to have to make some big

467
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:08,320
cuts now. And it's I guess it's whatever
you think we need to do, but we we need

468
00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:10,880
to do one or the other because there's
not going to be a whole lot of extra

469
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:16,160
money to go around here. If we don't
build any cash reserves and continue to

470
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:20,119
pay the payroll that we're paying, uh I
don't see how you sustain it.

471
00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:33,119
» So I I will tell you that
uh

472
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:38,160
uh I had spoke to Robert yesterday and
he told me that some of the numbers

473
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:43,200
where he thought that he might be and
what he's suggesting here today is

474
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:49,200
something similar to where I thought
that maybe we would end up and I was

475
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:53,586
hoping to
our original goal was 15,500,000.

476
00:37:51,566 --> 00:37:53,586
[clears throat]

477
00:37:54,640 --> 00:38:02,359
Um Robert is now suggesting um
15,820,000

478
00:38:03,839 --> 00:38:10,800
Um, I came into this meeting thinking,
hey,

479
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:16,680
maybe we could split the difference
there, which would be about

480
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,680
15,650,000.

481
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:27,560
I guess I'm willing to go give a
a little um

482
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:41,920
my personal I guess preference would be
15 million

483
00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:48,359
and maximum of 157.
Um and uh then I suppose what it does is

484
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:54,320
lowers that reserve number is how we get
there. I guess

485
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:57,680
» that's what we'd have to do.
>> Yeah. That's really our only option.

486
00:38:55,839 --> 00:39:00,960
» We're going to lose any additional
reserves.

487
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:03,920
» Yeah. But you've been fighting for years
that we got too much in reserves. That's

488
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:08,720
what you've been saying.
>> Yeah. And and actually when you talk to

489
00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:16,240
the state, the state the state
recommends a minimum of three months

490
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,800
and they and minimum and they would
prefer to see counties have a six-month

491
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,200
reserve
>> of expenses.

492
00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:24,079
» We're not even close.
>> We're not even close to the three.

493
00:39:23,359 --> 00:39:27,320
» No,
>> I I

494
00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:31,839
pay
>> right.

495
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:34,160
» Can you uh So how how much do we have
two months? calculate this less than

496
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,200
three months
>> less than three.

497
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:42,200
» The other thing I have
>> setting in general fund reserves

498
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:48,800
» the other thing I have question you know
talking about reserves and the reserves

499
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:52,480
I think I've been referred to is I I
look at Heather's report and I very very

500
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:56,160
seldom ever see that there's less than
10 million in those accounts that she's

501
00:39:54,480 --> 00:40:00,160
investing here and investing there doing
all this money. Is that not a reserve?

502
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:03,839
Why is that not being a cash reserve? I
I would like some kind of what that

503
00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:07,839
money is for. If it's not a cash
reserve, we keep building it up. We keep

504
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:10,800
moving it around, but I never see it go
below $10 million. Now, if we were

505
00:40:09,359 --> 00:40:13,839
needing that money as bad as we always
say we do, it should drop down to 2

506
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,599
million sometimes and 1 million
sometimes, and it should go in the red

507
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:20,400
sometimes.
>> Well, to me, cash reserves is money

508
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:25,760
that's not committed.
Now, money in those in checkings

509
00:40:23,599 --> 00:40:31,599
accounts is not a whole lot different
than money in your checking account,

510
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:36,800
» meaning that it's floating.
We know it's going to be spent in the

511
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:40,480
next 30 days, 60 days, whatever. And
it's money that's in there to pay

512
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,599
upcoming bills.
>> But Heather's money is in a whole

513
00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:46,079
different world. It's over here. That
doesn't change. It doesn't tie into this

514
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,760
account. Am I right?
>> That's not Heather.

515
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:51,680
» You know what?
>> I would

516
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,760
say that money always floats around 10
million.

517
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,640
» You look at your report when you get
>> But that's but that's the revenues that

518
00:40:55,359 --> 00:41:00,640
are coming in
>> and like Mark said, it's like your

519
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:04,160
checking account. you get money in and
then you've got to take money back out.

520
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:07,440
» Okay, if that's the case, then how in
the world are we investing money?

521
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:14,400
» It's not doing that.
>> Yeah. And it is true that um we had uh

522
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:18,800
when we got that what do we call that
money? ARPA money. When we had that then

523
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:24,720
there was a bunch of money sitting in
there in a pool that well was committed

524
00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:28,640
over the next year or two. And you
mentioned them, the generator and the

525
00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:33,839
bridge and the what was the other one
just mentioned? Those big expenses that

526
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:37,680
got paid out of that, but that money sit
in there and look like a cash reserve,

527
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,359
but it technically wasn't.
>> But that was in a whole different

528
00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:41,119
pocket.
>> Well, in my opinion, yeah, it's a whole

529
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:45,040
different
>> It was a whole different We we all knew

530
00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:47,760
that. I understood that part, but I I
don't understand the one with, you know,

531
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:51,200
where we're sitting over here with
Heather's mouth. You know, that's one

532
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:55,359
that concerns me because I never see a
dip dip below anything. I mean, it's got

533
00:41:54,079 --> 00:41:58,400
10 million in it right now. I mean,
right now, you go look, it's got $10

534
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,720
million
>> of money invested.

535
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,880
» Money invested
>> that won't be there

536
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:07,040
» later on. You check all your files. I
can go back for 12 months and it's

537
00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:10,480
always there.
>> Well, money comes in. I think I'm going

538
00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:16,920
to call
>> We need to have a

539
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,920
» Yeah,

540
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:25,280
» and we do and we do borrowing from
capital improvements from Kino and

541
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:31,440
inheritance. Those are the three funds
that the board has given authority to

542
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:35,680
borrow from during those inter periods
between the two tax.

543
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:41,839
» Those uh there is times of the year when
we get our

544
00:42:38,079 --> 00:42:48,480
tax monies paid that she would have more
monies to be able to in be in investment

545
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:56,560
that would be in those um funds that
you're talking about. Um and then as in

546
00:42:52,960 --> 00:43:01,520
between the what May when is it May 1st
and September 1st or whatever

547
00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:04,640
» in between those times they start to go
down those bounds.

548
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:09,359
» Yeah. And remember she I think she was
here one or maybe Robert sent it out

549
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:13,760
that we need to back off of the big
capital expenditures for a while until

550
00:43:11,599 --> 00:43:15,760
more funds come in. I don't
>> I think we both on that.

551
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,200
» What's that?
>> I think we've both harped on that.

552
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,400
Right.
>> Well, I think Yeah, I think you're

553
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:24,640
right. So yeah, it's a it's an account
that may be up here to $10 million, but

554
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:28,319
at some particular point when you start
writing checks and pay, you know, paying

555
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:32,880
to operate the county, it's going to go
down.

556
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:37,599
» And it uh Well, I you I'm like you,
Mark. I I don't mind raising that up.

557
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:43,760
» I I I would like to see some kind of
increase for the employees. Uh

558
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:47,839
it's not going to be much, but still,
you know, they're they're feeling the

559
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:51,359
crunch of of the of the increases for a
while. And hopefully that that'll get

560
00:43:49,359 --> 00:43:54,480
better. Fuel prices will go down.
>> But all you're doing is shifting the

561
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:57,440
burden. You're just taking that load off
the employee, moving it over to the

562
00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:01,440
taxpayer. We're not making we're not
making everybody happy. We need to look

563
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:04,560
at a way to make everyone not salary
obviously because we don't just that is

564
00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:09,839
automatic.
>> Well, say that again. Because when we

565
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:11,520
increase with a cola, it's increasing
their salary,

566
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,880
» right?
>> It increases salary. It's not just a

567
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:18,480
bonus. It's an increase in salary. I
think Matt's making the distinction

568
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,920
between managers and officials who are
on a salary.

569
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,920
» Right. Right.
>> Or exempt employees versus non-exempt

570
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:29,440
are going to be hourly, which would be
eligible for the step increase.

571
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:34,240
» Yeah. I think
Yeah. I mean,

572
00:44:31,839 --> 00:44:40,000
I'm going to end up
not being in favor of that, but if I

573
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:46,480
was, certainly I would be saying that um
yeah, it would apply to those um I'm

574
00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:50,240
going to call rank and file employees
>> that wouldn't that aren't otherwise

575
00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:53,760
covered.
>> Meaning it wouldn't be an additional

576
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:58,079
increase for those in the union
contracts. It wouldn't be an additional

577
00:44:55,680 --> 00:45:04,359
increase for the elected officials.
>> It would be for the other I'm going to

578
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,359
call them rank and file employees.

579
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:12,680
» I don't know
last year when we changed insurance.

580
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:20,760
increase actually
insurance.

581
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:26,960
So just food for thought, you know, the
step increases are nice. When we change

582
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:31,440
insurance companies for health
insurance, there's new premiums. There's

583
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:38,520
all kinds of things that
I got I got my step increase, but I lost

584
00:45:34,319 --> 00:45:38,520
about 150 bucks because I'm

585
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,040
just talking

586
00:45:49,359 --> 00:45:55,240
to us. So, how much do you pay right now
total for your healthare?

587
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:04,640
» Well, those step increases are always a
benefit,

588
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:09,359
» right? They're always a benefit.
>> It's just whether or not you get that

589
00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:13,960
step,
>> right? You'd have paid even more out of

590
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,960
your pocket.

591
00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:18,560
» But that's where we're at right now,
building another reserve for the

592
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:21,359
insurance company. Once that money is in
there, we get a I don't know. What are

593
00:46:20,079 --> 00:46:24,480
you looking a million a million half
reserve on that Robert before we can

594
00:46:22,720 --> 00:46:26,400
actually back anything down or probably
start

595
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:29,440
» say start over?
>> Well, the reserve in the healthcare

596
00:46:27,839 --> 00:46:34,720
account. You're going to you're building
reserve in that right now or we are.

597
00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:40,319
» Well, we're just trying to uh uh stay
with it. I mean, we've had some fairly

598
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:46,319
large claims that come through and we
are self-insured.

599
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:53,040
So that'll that $1,100 per month per
person or 13,200 per year per person

600
00:46:49,839 --> 00:46:57,280
comes out of each individual budget to
pay that. And what I've done, I looked

601
00:46:54,880 --> 00:47:04,560
at the last three averages and you know
and it has been going up. And uh so that

602
00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:09,440
was what I believe necessitated the
extra $100 per person per month. um

603
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:14,560
because you know you you could have an
additional two or three big claims and

604
00:47:12,319 --> 00:47:20,400
the good news is we do have a stop-loss
insurance carrier now that's new as of

605
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:24,960
last year. So that limits you know our
exposure but still uh there's there's

606
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:29,920
still some exposure because you don't
know you know somebody could have you

607
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:33,680
know have a serious medical condition
and we are self-insured so

608
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:38,960
» we have to have enough money to cover
our claims at some point

609
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:40,880
» you can't not pay those lower than if if
we got a

610
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,880
» I would hope it
>> really depends on the health of our

611
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:43,839
employees,
>> right?

612
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:50,480
» Yes.
>> But that extra $100 a month that you're

613
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:55,040
talking about is paid for I'm going to
I'll use the term by the county, but it

614
00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:58,880
comes from the individual budgets,
>> right?

615
00:47:55,680 --> 00:48:04,800
» Um and so the um individual department
heads are budgeting accordingly.

616
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:12,880
there was an extra hundred there and
then yours personally where you had the

617
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:16,240
individuals also their rate went up
>> I didn't think it went up more than what

618
00:48:14,240 --> 00:48:20,359
your step increase would be though
>> right

619
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,359
» the medical insurance

620
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:28,240
» I mean I I'd have to go back and look I
was actually looking for the email but

621
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:31,839
» it's the same amount per person right
>> for what

622
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:34,319
» for that increase that we the county
pays,

623
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:37,599
» right? And I don't know why I was
thinking it was like $50, but I may be

624
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:42,720
wrong.
>> No, no, no.

625
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:45,760
» It was It had been $1,000 per month per
per person for the last two years.

626
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:50,079
» I'm talking for the individual's
portion.

627
00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:53,040
» Oh. Oh, I I I don't recall. I'll have to
look at that. I was looking for the

628
00:48:51,839 --> 00:48:58,720
email real quick. So,
>> yeah. Well,

629
00:48:56,079 --> 00:49:02,599
all right. Um and but you're saying it
went up 15%.

630
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:08,160
Yeah,
>> we're not going to pay any of this out

631
00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:11,520
of an empty regardless. Last year the
insurance committee, you know, I think

632
00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:15,839
probably made the best decision they
could. It is what it is as far as the

633
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:20,480
race.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Right.

634
00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:25,119
» Yeah. I'll give a plug to the insurance
committee. That's a hard thing.

635
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:28,960
» That's a really hard thing.
>> Honestly, I don't

636
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:32,160
personally don't get to use it. I chose
to use it myself.

637
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:44,040
have as many cases in my back pocket as
I can.

638
00:49:50,720 --> 00:49:58,079
Well, I think when we didn't we step up
what we were paying RCI when we went to

639
00:49:55,040 --> 00:50:01,079
this company, there was an increase in
premium

640
00:50:01,119 --> 00:50:05,680
» for the employees
>> all employees when we went from RCI to

641
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:09,280
» Oh, I'm sure there was. I just don't
recall like getting a wage. It's just

642
00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:13,040
like getting a wage.
>> I I didn't pull pull that information

643
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,200
because that actually has nothing to do
with the budget.

644
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:18,319
» Oh, I realize, but I'm just saying right
to answer his question. That's the same

645
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:22,480
as a wage increase right there when you
get an increase in your insurance. We we

646
00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:25,520
absorb it. It's a It's a increase.
>> Any benefit costs are part of the

647
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,640
» Yeah.
>> Part of the salary package.

648
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:31,040
» It is, but it's an increase in your
value.

649
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:35,480
» What's that?
>> HSA.

650
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,480
» Yeah.

651
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:41,319
» Yeah. It's pre-tax medical.

652
00:50:46,079 --> 00:50:51,880
So
additional goes back

653
00:50:54,160 --> 00:51:01,000
to your benefit or our benefit whoever
has it.

654
00:50:57,359 --> 00:51:01,000
» No, it's all good.

655
00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:06,240
» I think that's smart. So I
[clears throat] would only say for me

656
00:51:04,319 --> 00:51:16,640
personally
um where I would like to be is to um

657
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:19,640
call the tax asking amount to be
15700,000

658
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:33,920
and then with that um I would still be
um planning no cola this year.

659
00:51:31,359 --> 00:51:37,599
That's my personal opinion,
but I'm interested in

660
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:41,040
» So, you're looking raising
180,000. Is that what you're saying?

661
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:45,800
» Uh,
yeah. I'm going to say about

662
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,800
» 570.

663
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:57,680
You're going from 15570 to 157.
>> You're talking about that

664
00:51:55,680 --> 00:52:03,920
raising the uh
>> reserve,

665
00:51:58,559 --> 00:52:07,280
» right? Our goal was $15,500.
>> Well, that was at that point without

666
00:52:05,359 --> 00:52:08,880
using any growth. I had no idea what
growth.

667
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:12,559
» That's right. We had no idea.
>> No, I didn't. But I I totally hoped that

668
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:16,079
we could use the growth.
>> But we knew we were going to have some.

669
00:52:14,319 --> 00:52:17,599
» Yeah, we've got to have some growth. We
had none.

670
00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:27,040
» Right.
>> And we are blessed that we have

671
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:29,920
um the how many $200 million in growth
or um

672
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:35,200
grow.
>> Yeah, it was $63 million in growth this

673
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:41,839
year.
>> So, the value was one or 4.162 and now

674
00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:48,280
is 4.388,
right?

675
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:48,280
» That's correct. So, um

676
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:58,960
but
I guess that's where I'm at. I'm I would

677
00:52:55,119 --> 00:53:06,640
like to see a 15,700,000
in tax asking tax request.

678
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:12,880
Um that would get our mill levy
somewhere I think in the I haven't done

679
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:19,400
the calculation but 3.59
level or something like that. You want

680
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:19,400
to keep between below fourow

681
00:53:20,720 --> 00:53:25,000
460 or 360ow.

682
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:31,599
You want me to calculate the levy based
on

683
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:34,599
15700?
>> Okay.

684
00:53:35,119 --> 00:53:45,440
So that um for clarification the
difference between what what uh Robert

685
00:53:42,319 --> 00:53:50,640
is suggesting the 15820
um

686
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:54,400
and what you're proposing 157 uh it's
just the amount of money that we're

687
00:53:52,079 --> 00:54:00,640
going to hold in reserve or that we're
going to I mean hopefully yours would

688
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:04,240
would put some money in reserve. the
15820 would put a little more money in

689
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:07,920
that reserve.
>> That means that all

690
00:54:06,319 --> 00:54:13,119
» so in in order if you look at the screen
on the changes. So if you in order to

691
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:21,720
get to 15.7
tax asking it would mean that our

692
00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:21,720
reserve would be at 2,629762

693
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:28,119
approximately
>> versus 2,750,000.

694
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:36,079
So your recommendation is about $120,000
less than what I re than what you're

695
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:42,160
right.
>> The only um reservation I would have I

696
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:50,960
guess is the the idea that um that we
have it would be good to have um three

697
00:54:45,599 --> 00:54:56,240
months in in reserve. Um and by by going
with the 15820

698
00:54:52,880 --> 00:55:01,040
I think um it gets us closer to that
three month. we we probably still

699
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:05,839
wouldn't be there but uh I think it's
just fiscally prudent to try to build

700
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:10,559
that up to at least that point but
>> with carryover as well carry over like 2

701
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:16,160
million
year

702
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:19,760
» so that is the general fund balance. So
at the beginning of this year we started

703
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:24,559
with 2.2 million and that goes in your
calculation in your revenue. So that go

704
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:28,720
that goes towards this year's budget. So
instead of asking for that $2 million,

705
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,800
you have to use that first. Think about
that.

706
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:35,680
» So all the raises that we've given,
we've given union pay raises. We've

707
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:39,680
given elected officials raises and all
these things. We've held out on a cola

708
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:45,440
and we're sitting here not want to come
up with an extra $120,000.

709
00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:49,839
» Well, that that money of course Yeah.
has been calculated into this budget,

710
00:55:48,319 --> 00:55:50,640
those expenses that you're talking
about.

711
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,920
» Correct.
>> Yes. But the only thing that the only

712
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:57,839
thing that isn't in there that I that I
always have a question with is our

713
00:55:55,520 --> 00:56:01,359
receipts that we have estimated on how
much Kino is going to bring and how much

714
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:05,599
the jail is going to bring and how much
like you said.

715
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:09,280
» We have a our best guess estimated
>> based based on last year's information

716
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,760
prior to what we did.
>> But I think we're coming into a year

717
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:15,280
that we don't even know what we're
coming into. I think it's going to be a

718
00:56:14,240 --> 00:56:19,599
a wild card
>> revenue. I think it's going to be a wild

719
00:56:17,359 --> 00:56:23,359
card if people even pay those taxes on
time. because there's no no crops out

720
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:27,119
there.
>> One more comment and I've got to go to

721
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:30,880
them. But remember a few years ago you
commissioned a wage study that cost you

722
00:56:28,559 --> 00:56:34,880
almost $30,000
>> for a 15% increase. And I understand the

723
00:56:33,599 --> 00:56:39,520
Cole and my employees I've talked to
them. They're fine understanding the

724
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:43,040
conditions right now. To me personally
as a taxpayer, I think you need to jump

725
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:45,680
to the 820 because if you don't, you're
going to get behind that eightball again

726
00:56:44,559 --> 00:56:49,200
and you're going to do another wage
study and then you're going to find your

727
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:51,040
15% behind again and then that's really
hard to absorb into the next year's

728
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,680
budget.
>> That's right.

729
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:58,480
» At 5% a year for three years is how we
handled it. But I caution and also as a

730
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:01,280
fish who has to watch my budget again.
We're going to need a phone system.

731
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:05,680
Expenses are going to happen that we're
not prepared for.

732
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:11,119
My recommendation as a taxpayer is to go
to the 820 to build your base for next

733
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:14,480
year and to help your officials out when
something comes up

734
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:18,400
that's an unexpected [clears throat]
expense. You've got a little bit there

735
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:23,920
to help help handle it without having to
bond or take a huge jump the next year.

736
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:29,040
And I've got a meeting, but I appreciate
your time, gentlemen. Okay. I and I

737
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:33,599
don't I don't want to rehash departments
whatever and I apologize for not being

738
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:36,160
here for the the bigger departments
should have been but I just not able to

739
00:57:35,359 --> 00:57:40,240
make it.
>> Uh

740
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:43,680
but [clears throat] looking at some of
those

741
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:48,480
you know were there were there things in
there that could have been held off till

742
00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:53,359
next year?
are are they are they are they something

743
00:57:50,799 --> 00:57:58,079
that if we don't do it right now, we're
going to be really in trouble next year

744
00:57:55,280 --> 00:58:01,760
if we we don't do something and and I
could see that in some of it. I wasn't

745
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:05,280
here to argue it, but that's okay.
Again, I don't want to rehash

746
00:58:03,119 --> 00:58:08,319
everything. We've got one department he
just left is just about to go down the

747
00:58:07,359 --> 00:58:12,960
drain
>> if something doesn't happen with him

748
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:16,480
pretty quick. He took a he took a cut in
his pay just to keep things up and

749
00:58:14,799 --> 00:58:22,079
running.
And and th those are the kind of things

750
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:26,720
that if we you know we're looking at
120,000 here or 70,000 here, you know,

751
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:30,079
whatever the case, it it adds up. It
adds up.

752
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:34,720
» And and like I said, if again, I wish I
had those numbers, but I think now

753
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:40,559
you're I think you're close at 120 or
140 for a I think a 2% whatever whatever

754
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:44,880
it was, which is still not a lot. uh
with the way things are rising, it's

755
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:49,440
it'll it's like Matt was saying, you
have an increase in your insurance or

756
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:52,559
whatever and all of a sudden that's
that's nothing. You're right back to

757
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:58,880
you're right back to what you were
before. U I'm I'm for I'm for the 158

758
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:02,240
just to get up there and I'm not
concerned if we get a big postcard. I I

759
00:59:01,359 --> 00:59:07,520
I've made that clear.
>> We're not going to get a big postcard.

760
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:09,920
» No, that's fine. Well, 158 won't create,
but personally, I don't

761
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:14,160
» You're not afraid of it anyway. I'm not
afraid of it anyway. Yeah, I'm not

762
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:19,040
afraid of it anyway. I I I made this
this statement a long time ago with the

763
00:59:16,559 --> 00:59:23,040
taxes and and we are one of the highest
highest tax counties. Uh

764
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:27,200
» tell me about that.
>> Yeah. Well, I know.

765
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:31,040
» But my my other thing is is we need to
give our taxpayers their money's worth.

766
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:34,400
And that's, you know, if you're going to
pay a lot of money for something, then

767
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:38,480
please just give me what it is I'm
paying for. And And I I don't know that

768
00:59:36,799 --> 00:59:40,160
we do that all the time. I I don't know
that.

769
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:43,920
» We give a pretty good
>> Well, I'm I'm not I'm not saying we

770
00:59:41,839 --> 00:59:49,760
don't, but I'm just saying that if that
if my taxes continue to increase,

771
00:59:48,319 --> 00:59:52,799
» you know, I don't I don't have a motor
out in front of my house. I live in

772
00:59:51,359 --> 00:59:56,160
town,
>> but I'm still my my property taxes went

773
00:59:55,119 --> 00:59:59,040
up $18,000.
>> I don't have a street service by my

774
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,760
house. Yeah, I don't have that either.
You know,

775
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:03,520
» you do.
>> So, but and and and I know I brought

776
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:08,640
this up before. We've talked about it
and has it and whatever. Uh

777
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:12,000
but but I think we get hung up once in a
while that well, we certainly don't want

778
01:00:10,319 --> 01:00:15,440
to get this one or if we hit this one or
hit this one. And I'm all for getting

779
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:19,520
our reserves up where they need to be.
We had an accountant stand right here

780
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:23,680
and tell us we need six months.
That that's just good standard

781
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:29,359
accounting practices. Six months worth
of reserve. Well, in order to get back

782
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:35,520
» say that our we're spending uh uh isn't
our um again, we talk here a lot about

783
01:00:32,319 --> 01:00:38,559
tax asking, but we spend $40 million a
year, don't we?

784
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:42,319
» 40 something.
>> I'm sure that's right. I'm sure that's

785
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:46,000
right with all of our
>> contributions. Yeah. Yeah. we're talking

786
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:49,440
tax asset versus what we're
>> asking. So,

787
01:00:46,799 --> 01:00:52,559
» and so my point is is that if you're
talking about three months worth of

788
01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:55,119
expenses,
>> what are those expenses?

789
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:59,680
» Yeah.
>> And that we're talking about

790
01:00:57,119 --> 01:01:03,680
» for the general fund overall from a
county including all the other funds.

791
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:08,799
I'd have to drill down for you on the on
the general, but overall if you look on

792
01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:15,599
the screen, uh this is our budgeting
software. uh total expenses as it was at

793
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:21,280
the 1557
>> uh was 59

794
01:01:17,839 --> 01:01:25,760
» million and revenues was 43 million.
Okay. But that includes

795
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:28,720
» Haida wing all those other funds in
there.

796
01:01:26,559 --> 01:01:35,200
» But really we're talking about a reserve
for only the general fund. So if you

797
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:41,920
look if you look at down here
um the total expenses for the general

798
01:01:38,559 --> 01:01:48,640
fund again on that based on the 1557
number they gave you this morning the

799
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:54,480
expenses are 24 million revenues are 10
million. Okay, so that kind of gives you

800
01:01:51,359 --> 01:01:59,200
an idea that um
>> but three months is

801
01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:03,920
» so of expenses you know basically $2
million a month round numbers

802
01:02:02,799 --> 01:02:08,119
» is 1.2
million.

803
01:02:05,119 --> 01:02:08,119
» Yeah.

804
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:15,160
» Yeah.
>> Like

805
01:02:11,839 --> 01:02:15,160
16 now.

806
01:02:15,599 --> 01:02:18,599
» Yeah.

807
01:02:22,319 --> 01:02:28,960
» Yeah. That's right.
>> So just using this number based on this

808
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:33,760
budget which is lower than number than
we're talking about slightly but it's

809
01:02:30,799 --> 01:02:40,559
good. It's generally a good good
indicator here. So 24,700,000

810
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:46,079
in expenses for projected for this year.
Take that divided by 12 roughly a little

811
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:48,400
over $2 million a month. Six months
you're talking $12 million.

812
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:55,839
» Yeah.
>> But a 3% a 3% of tax asking money is

813
01:02:54,079 --> 01:03:01,359
» about $4 million.
>> What's that? If we had three months of

814
01:02:59,599 --> 01:03:08,720
expenses
equivalent to the tax asking

815
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:15,280
um then that or using that as our base
the tax asking being 158

816
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:17,599
and then three months of that is about
$4,000

817
01:03:17,039 --> 01:03:20,079
4,000
>> 4 million

818
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:24,400
» I mean 4 million
>> and we only have two million in

819
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:26,640
» yeah
I hear what you're saying but I think

820
01:03:25,599 --> 01:03:33,760
when the
and and um Mr. Sol Sylvester uh uh made

821
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:39,359
the recommendation. I believe they're
talking about total expenses in the

822
01:03:35,599 --> 01:03:42,960
general fund, not just the tax asking
>> because regardless of what your tax

823
01:03:41,119 --> 01:03:50,480
asking is, those bills are coming in
next month and it's roughly $2 million.

824
01:03:47,119 --> 01:03:55,920
» You know, it's it's interesting. I I I
sit on the Kaplan board and uh Mon is

825
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:59,920
here. She's the president, but every
median, if you remember, they used to

826
01:03:57,359 --> 01:04:01,599
give a put a graph up.
>> A lot of graphs.

827
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,799
» Oh, yeah.
>> There a lot of graphs. I think

828
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:07,599
» I don't know where all the graphs come
from, but there a lot of graphs.

829
01:04:06,559 --> 01:04:12,720
» One of them one of them that's
interesting is how many days he could

830
01:04:09,119 --> 01:04:18,480
operate if if if the funding stopped for
whatever reason. And and and I can't

831
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:22,319
remember the number. Some of them were
120 days or I mean whatever it is. And

832
01:04:20,799 --> 01:04:26,720
there's I mean there's there's there's
quite a few days that they could operate

833
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:30,319
on their reserves district reserve if
all the funds stopped

834
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:36,799
» and I didn't fully understand that and
it finally sunk in here a while back

835
01:04:32,799 --> 01:04:42,000
along with all the other stuff but uh uh
that's good accounting. That's just good

836
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:45,760
accounting. I you know and I I hate to
bring up the school district because I

837
01:04:43,359 --> 01:04:49,119
know that's a that's a s that's a sore
subject

838
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:53,680
» but we we had a pretty healthy we had a
pretty healthy uh reserve at least back

839
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:58,079
in the back in the days that I was on it
and we always tried to maintain that

840
01:04:55,280 --> 01:05:01,680
reserve for whatever day
>> and and and we didn't have all the

841
01:04:59,839 --> 01:05:05,839
things going on here. We didn't have
motorg graders that break down or we

842
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:09,839
didn't have you know the big expenses
but we still had our our full-time

843
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:14,480
employees. We still have students that
need to be taught and expenses and

844
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:19,119
whatever. Uh but we're always trying to
maintain that and and and I I don't

845
01:05:17,359 --> 01:05:23,760
disagree with you, Russ. The fact that
we're we're that's taxpayer money.

846
01:05:22,559 --> 01:05:25,920
» It is.
>> It's my money, your money. Everybody in

847
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:29,520
this room.
>> Exactly. And we protect.

848
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:33,599
» But if But if it wasn't there, if it
wasn't there, then you're looking at

849
01:05:32,079 --> 01:05:38,079
shutting something down or doing
something different. And and and to me,

850
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:40,960
now we're not getting We're not getting
our money's worth.

851
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:43,680
» No, but I think right now we're stay on
the trajectory we've been on. We've

852
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:46,640
increased this thing every year since
I've been here and you guys have every

853
01:05:45,359 --> 01:05:50,480
year prior to that.
>> You can't set on a number here and have

854
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:54,160
inflation eat you up and that's what
it'll do. This percentage that we're

855
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:59,200
raising is I don't even know what the
number is, but it isn't a hell of a lot

856
01:05:55,680 --> 01:06:05,520
from 155 to 1580 300,000
4 billion dollar budget.

857
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:09,200
That's that's three of%.
>> But that was my point. Again, I'm not

858
01:06:07,599 --> 01:06:14,400
going to I'm not going to go back and
and and and uh uh dissect all of the

859
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:16,880
budget budgets again.
>> Well, we're looking at a 3/4 of a

860
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:21,680
percent increase and we're looking at
giving a 2 and a half% cola. That math

861
01:06:20,079 --> 01:06:25,920
don't work very well if you look at it.
I mean, you got we got to stay on some

862
01:06:23,359 --> 01:06:29,520
sort of a trajectory here in order to
supply something. I don't like paying

863
01:06:28,079 --> 01:06:34,319
any more tax than you do, Mark.
>> Yeah. So

864
01:06:32,319 --> 01:06:39,200
um
where are we going to go from here?

865
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:45,920
» I think we ought to go to 82 or 158.
>> Well, I'm trying to figure out uh are we

866
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:50,000
going to um this talks about preliminary
budget discussion

867
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:52,880
» and u
>> and the next one is discuss and

868
01:06:51,599 --> 01:06:57,599
consider.
>> So I would ask for approval for a

869
01:06:55,119 --> 01:07:02,240
preliminary number for a preliminary
minor change total asking amount. Not

870
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:04,640
final, but it's a for a preliminary
budget.

871
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:08,400
» That means it's close.
>> That's right.

872
01:07:05,119 --> 01:07:11,280
» Right. So, we need to
>> You want a motion?

873
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:17,119
» Uh, that's fine.
>> I'll make a motion for the 15820

874
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:21,760
» um
238.

875
01:07:17,839 --> 01:07:25,760
» 238 is recommended by the administrative
account.

876
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:29,760
» I'll second that.
>> And I said it's preliminary in a week

877
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:32,880
» and that's with no call. That's correct.
>> That's no code. That's correct

878
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:36,480
» at this point in time, but it could
build us one for the next year. And

879
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:41,280
that's where we're headed for that we
start building it.

880
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:44,280
» So the motion and a second for
15,820,238.

881
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:50,160
» Preliminary only.
>> That's Yeah, this is preliminary. Could

882
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:53,839
be changed later.
>> Nothing set in stone.

883
01:07:51,039 --> 01:07:58,160
» This lets Robert keep working on all the
stuff he needs to work on. But the only

884
01:07:56,079 --> 01:08:03,119
reason I'm willing to accept or increase
my previous motion for the 155 is

885
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:05,200
because we had no idea what the growth
would be and we had over two million I

886
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:10,880
think
>> 2 million growth and I think it's fair

887
01:08:07,119 --> 01:08:16,480
we're still lower in the middle.
>> All right. So we have a motion and a

888
01:08:12,559 --> 01:08:19,279
second for that. Any other discussion
hearing? None. We'll vote.

889
01:08:18,319 --> 01:08:20,960
» Risig,
>> yes.

890
01:08:20,159 --> 01:08:22,080
» Parsley,
>> yes.

891
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,520
» Harris,
>> no.

892
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:26,239
» Meer,
>> no. blue.

893
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:29,839
» Yes.
>> Okay. Motion's carried.

894
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:32,159
» And so,
>> okay.

895
01:08:30,480 --> 01:08:37,279
» Now, what what was your number, Ken?
Where you where you think you want?

896
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:41,040
» I I have problem with 15820, but I
wanted to include a cola with that if we

897
01:08:39,440 --> 01:08:44,799
could in some way.
>> We can't build we can't build any cash

898
01:08:43,359 --> 01:08:47,679
reserve and do a cola both. We've
already pretty much decided to void the

899
01:08:46,159 --> 01:08:50,560
cola for this year.
>> But this will let us build the cash

900
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:54,560
reserve to where we can hopefully do it
next year. We can't do it if we don't

901
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:56,719
start building it. You don't have it's
my personal feel. That's fine. I

902
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:59,920
understand.
>> So that's where we're at for now. And

903
01:08:58,239 --> 01:09:03,839
mine would have been actually lower that
157 that I mentioned. So what's

904
01:09:02,159 --> 01:09:06,960
» mine would have been the lower amount
the 157

905
01:09:05,440 --> 01:09:11,920
» is what I'd have been going for which is
still reasonable which is okay.

906
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:18,480
» The last two years or three years I've
been in the lone minority mode of uh the

907
01:09:16,239 --> 01:09:23,440
budget. So I may be again this year.
>> And things to consider there there's a

908
01:09:21,199 --> 01:09:27,839
certain requirement of
people approving the Robert's final

909
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:34,920
budget.
>> Is that more than a just a

910
01:09:29,679 --> 01:09:34,920
» four fifths of you? I believe

911
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:43,533
» uh
so if there is some uh uh yeah and if if

912
01:09:41,279 --> 01:09:46,560
we have any
[laughter]

913
01:09:44,480 --> 01:09:49,520
» if we have any concern about people
being gone, we better know what that

914
01:09:48,480 --> 01:09:50,560
requirement is.
>> Okay.

915
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:54,719
» Okay.
>> Sounds like Kelly knows.

916
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:58,400
» Yeah. So, we'll find out. It may be a
four fifths vote.

917
01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:01,920
» And the other thing, you guys don't pass
it.

918
01:09:59,679 --> 01:10:06,640
» Nothing Robert did would be for
anything. He'd be starting over almost

919
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:10,880
» because some of those are 75% but in
effect that would be fourth.

920
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:13,840
» We'll we'll confirm.
>> Check it out. Let us know. Well, we got

921
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:20,000
a little bit.
>> Right. So, um

922
01:10:16,719 --> 01:10:24,400
I believe we did
um both the second item and the third

923
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:26,239
item on this
>> right

924
01:10:25,199 --> 01:10:33,440
» budget just now.
>> Yeah, I I do have a question. Just throw

925
01:10:29,440 --> 01:10:38,000
this out. So, um our final we're
scheduled for final budget approval on

926
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:42,199
September 23rd,
>> right? And

927
01:10:39,199 --> 01:10:42,199
» no,

928
01:10:42,480 --> 01:10:49,199
» no, it's two days later. It's on Friday.
>> Joint public hearing is the 20th.

929
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:53,520
» Oh, that's right. Sorry.
>> Our meeting is the 25th at 4:30.

930
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:57,520
» Yeah, you're you're right. Sorry. I was
thinking joint public.

931
01:10:55,199 --> 01:11:02,080
» So, the final budget approval is on the
25th.

932
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:08,239
» So, the question is, do we want to have
an interim workshop before final just to

933
01:11:06,239 --> 01:11:14,000
like firm some things up?
And my question is when do you need to

934
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:18,719
publish? And I know I need to give you a
document to publish for the final, you

935
01:11:16,719 --> 01:11:24,080
know, basically the budget document in
that Excel file that we talked about.

936
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:28,679
When do you have to publish that in
order to meet the 25th deadline?

937
01:11:31,679 --> 01:11:36,960
Monet's calculating this in her head
right now. [laughter]

938
01:11:35,199 --> 01:11:41,600
I wouldn't be able to put this through
column and I don't know that I

939
01:11:39,199 --> 01:11:43,679
necessarily publish this because I think
you have your own login with column

940
01:11:43,199 --> 01:11:48,480
also.
>> I do.

941
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:53,440
» But um yeah, we're going to have to work
directly with the Star Herald and their

942
01:11:50,480 --> 01:11:57,520
layout with that which I can help you
with.

943
01:11:56,080 --> 01:12:01,760
» Yeah, I don't have a contact for
anything outside of the column system.

944
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:05,920
» Almost always through the budget at
budget time with the county we end up

945
01:12:06,719 --> 01:12:10,640
You can help us with that.
>> Okay.

946
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:14,560
» Tron
>> Tron always comes through. So

947
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:23,840
» that's who I would go to.
>> Yeah. And so I I could show this to Tron

948
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:30,159
and say when do you need this
size similar by whatever certain date

949
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:35,120
because I also need to know if your
requirements are so many days before but

950
01:12:33,440 --> 01:12:39,840
not more than
>> out there. Okay. So

951
01:12:38,239 --> 01:12:45,199
» I know at least the last few years I
helped

952
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:51,040
» do that. Okay. So we have the
>> So the reason I was asking the question

953
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:54,159
is that obviously we have to publish um
what we believe the final is going to

954
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:58,320
be. So my question was kind of if we
could establish kind of what that date

955
01:12:55,920 --> 01:13:03,800
was, do we need to meet next week or
sometime and just get another interim?

956
01:13:00,239 --> 01:13:03,800
» No conversmber.

957
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:10,640
» Yes. And why can't we just keep talking
about this in regular meetings?

958
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:14,239
» Right. That's what I'm saying.
>> We don't need to have a special meeting.

959
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:16,480
We'll have a meeting on the 8th and
we'll have a meeting on the 21st.

960
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:19,199
» Yeah.
>> And so if you want to include it,

961
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:21,360
» we'll just put an agenda item.
>> Yes.

962
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:25,280
» For budget updates.
>> That's fine.

963
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:26,000
» The the public hearing is the 23rd,
right?

964
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:27,920
» That's correct.
>> Joint public hearing.

965
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:30,880
» Joint public.
>> Right.

966
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:33,440
» And then the final budget approval is
the 25th.

967
01:13:31,679 --> 01:13:35,600
» 25th and 4:30.
>> 4:30.

968
01:13:34,239 --> 01:13:38,480
» Check.
>> And who's going to go to the joint

969
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:45,520
public hearing?
>> I have to. I have to. is the assessor.

970
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:46,719
» I normally go and meet I believe one of
the

971
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:49,199
» I go anyway.
>> I went last year.

972
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:52,080
» Yeah, you were there.
>> I go

973
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:55,440
» and all five of you can go and we do not
have a quorum. It's an open meetings law

974
01:13:54,880 --> 01:14:00,640
act,
>> right? We can be there.

975
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:05,600
» So, it's okay for all of us to be there.
>> This is outside of that

976
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:10,400
» 605 in this building.
>> 605, not 604. That's

977
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:14,239
» what I picked.
>> Yeah, the state language is odd. It says

978
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:21,280
after six.
>> After

979
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:24,640
» I think everyone we ever did was 605.
>> Okay. So, we'll do that. We'll have a

980
01:14:22,719 --> 01:14:28,800
touch base in the next two board
meetings. And if there any, you know, I

981
01:14:26,719 --> 01:14:32,239
don't expect anything major, maybe a
tweak or something. Like I said, I have

982
01:14:30,239 --> 01:14:38,080
a couple of people that haven't gotten
back to me yet and I'm follow and but I

983
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:42,960
don't expect changes and then possibly
changing a few dollars on the bond

984
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:47,360
depending on what DA Davidson uh comes
back with. So don't expect a lot of

985
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:53,679
changes.
So I don't know you guys may have looked

986
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:57,600
at this if we have a minute. Um
I was going to show you

987
01:14:55,920 --> 01:15:01,920
is it okay to since it's not on the
agenda to show you the the actual system

988
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,320
that we're using for the budget process.
>> It's all it's all within budget

989
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:10,239
discussion.
>> It is okay in case you you guys are

990
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:14,800
interested. So, it's actually
prior to this year and you saw the

991
01:15:12,719 --> 01:15:20,640
spreadsheet that I did. I'm I'm actually
doing the budget twofold.

992
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:25,199
So, because it's new software to me,
it's untested. So, I'm I'm actually

993
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:29,440
doing basically what Lisa has done in
the past

994
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:33,120
» plus the the actual system
>> and they and and both of these files

995
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:40,239
balance to the penny.
>> Uh so, we're we're spot on. But, um

996
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:43,360
basically, uh there's some input screens
and you can you can see up here there's

997
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:47,760
overall things. It's like, hey, okay,
we've got transfer going between. We

998
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:52,080
have a some you know, it tells us if
we're in balance, if it's not, you know,

999
01:15:49,440 --> 01:15:56,800
we can you can click on that. and
actually look at your your expense

1000
01:15:54,719 --> 01:16:02,320
transfers and your revenue transfers.
You can balance those. Really good tool.

1001
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:06,239
Uh otherwise, it's like a needle in a
hay stack when you're trying to go

1002
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:12,320
through a spreadsheet. Um but you can do
inputs like your county evaluation. Um

1003
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:17,679
and then you do do input for you'll see
all of the the funds listed down here.

1004
01:16:14,719 --> 01:16:21,280
County General Road highway bridge
buyback all [clears throat] the way

1005
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:27,199
down.
So all the different funds that we have

1006
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:31,760
and there's data entry. So within
general fund, what probably makes the

1007
01:16:29,199 --> 01:16:35,679
most sense is you can drill down into
the general fund [cough]

1008
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:41,760
and say, "Okay, you can look at the
individual budgets and once we get the

1009
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:46,239
final approval, I will print all of this
out for everybody for your books and

1010
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:50,560
make it nice and nice neat package for
you. But you can drill down into let's

1011
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:56,080
say let's let's take a look at the
assessor's office. So you can see all

1012
01:16:53,280 --> 01:17:01,920
the expenses. You can see prior adopted,
last year, actual spent requested.

1013
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:08,239
So you can do line by line. There's
there's a account number. There is a you

1014
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:13,040
know number in there for um or a
description there for the account. So

1015
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:22,640
you can drill down um you know pretty
well in the system um in all all the

1016
01:17:18,159 --> 01:17:26,400
different um departments. So
also you have a

1017
01:17:24,239 --> 01:17:32,480
This is kind of like the entry screen
here. You can see that currently uh our

1018
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:35,520
our
way it's sitting right now. I need to

1019
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:43,440
make some adjustments, but I think or
maybe I did make those uh 3.548 on the

1020
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:47,040
levy uh gives you expenses, revenues,
tax

1021
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:50,800
requests. So, I do need to update this.
I haven't updated this form yet to our

1022
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:54,159
just approved number. And you can
compare it to the last years. And

1023
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:59,520
actually you can drill into last year's
budget because when we went through this

1024
01:17:56,560 --> 01:18:04,000
process early in the year all of this
data got entered for the last two budget

1025
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:07,440
years just like what we so this is
actually kind of even though didn't do

1026
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:10,560
the budget basically doing three budgets
this year just to get this system.

1027
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:13,040
» So next year it's going to be like being
on vacation.

1028
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:17,120
» You know it's going to be there's a
major learning curve for this software.

1029
01:18:15,440 --> 01:18:22,000
There is they don't have like a really
nice neat manual. They have some some

1030
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:26,719
job aids. But a lot of it is you get in
there and figure it out. But uh I just

1031
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:32,239
show you this because when I talk about
the system, um this is much better than

1032
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:38,800
a spreadsheet. And so far it's proven
out to be spoton because I' I've been

1033
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:42,719
doing it dual the old way and the new
way with this system. And like I said,

1034
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:46,640
it balances to the pin both ways.
>> So you anybody can

1035
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:51,920
» I feel good about that, you know. So, so
next year, you know, it wouldn't be my

1036
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:57,120
intention to do the full budget outside
of the system. I would only take

1037
01:18:53,840 --> 01:19:02,320
downloads so the the officials can do
their, you know, recommendations for

1038
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:06,320
that particular year. So, anyway, if
anybody would like to I'd like to throw

1039
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:12,320
it out there. Anybody would like to come
by the office and go to it through it in

1040
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:19,280
more detail, we can do that. I'd be glad
to go into as much detail It can.

1041
01:19:15,440 --> 01:19:22,400
There's a lot of minutia in here, but
>> sure looks clean and really refined.

1042
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:28,159
» It really does, you know.
>> Yeah.

1043
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:35,520
» Is that information u available to other
um county officials or this uh program

1044
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:38,320
pretty much just gets used through your
office?

1045
01:19:36,159 --> 01:19:42,239
» So, I'm the one really the only one that
uses it. Obviously, the clerk's office

1046
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:49,679
has access to it because it's part of
the clerk's package. Uh so they have

1047
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:53,679
full visibility. Also, Heather has full
visibility into this as well,

1048
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:57,760
» which I think is a good idea
>> because if you think about Heather's

1049
01:19:55,440 --> 01:20:01,600
revenues from the treasurer, Kelly's
expenses through the clerk's office,

1050
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:04,239
they come together to budget. So, the
three of us all need to have that

1051
01:20:03,679 --> 01:20:09,679
information.
>> People, right? And I I sure wouldn't see

1052
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:14,239
a problem if other people other
officials uh were able to view it but

1053
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:19,280
not change anything.
>> Right. So you bring up a good point. So

1054
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:24,159
one of the things that I've asked NIPS
for. So right now what I do is take this

1055
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:28,159
information and you saw me pull that one
report up. It looked like a spreadsheet.

1056
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:32,159
You can you can actually take that
information and dump it into an Excel.

1057
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:38,800
Okay? And that's what I did this year.
So everybody's budgets looked uniform um

1058
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:41,679
when they when they came out, but I've
already talked to MIPS. I'm not sure

1059
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:48,400
it's going to be available for next
year. But what I've requested is that

1060
01:20:44,159 --> 01:20:54,960
it'd be really nice if we could have uh
security settings within this system to

1061
01:20:51,760 --> 01:21:01,360
allow all of the officials to go in and
only data enter for their department. So

1062
01:20:59,199 --> 01:21:07,120
that saves a lot of additional because
they do it anyway. Have them do it right

1063
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:11,199
in the system. So I don't have to re key
all of it. So and then that way it's the

1064
01:21:09,679 --> 01:21:13,840
system is still locked down other than
the data entry for the officials

1065
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:16,400
department.
>> Then you have access to whatever they

1066
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:18,400
whatever they
>> Absolutely.

1067
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:22,239
» Yeah.
>> Yeah. You're the primary administrator

1068
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:25,360
of that.
>> Actually I'm not

1069
01:21:23,679 --> 01:21:30,159
» because it's not it's not my package.
Kelly is the administrator for the

1070
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:33,760
clerk's package.
>> So, this is part of the clerk's package.

1071
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:35,440
» It is. Absolutely.
>> Yeah.

1072
01:21:34,480 --> 01:21:39,679
» Good.
>> But Kelly and I worked worked together

1073
01:21:36,719 --> 01:21:45,199
finally. We've had no issues.
>> All right. Anything else?

1074
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:48,199
» All right. Hearing none. Meetings
adjourned.

1075
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:53,640
» Thank you, gentlemen.
>> Thank you.

1076
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:58,760
Mark, do you need to get right back or
have you got a minute?

1077
01:22:00,639 --> 01:22:03,639
pursuit

1078
01:22:04,639 --> 01:22:06,960
with