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>> You're good.

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All right. Well, 6:00 having a rib,
what's the right word for that, Bill?

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» Passed that church.
>> That's enough.

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We're going to call to order
this month's meeting of the city of

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Scottsboro Historic Review Board.
We'll start with our roll call.

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» Eric Lowry
>> Here.

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» Paul Verno
Bill Copeland

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» Here.
>> Debbie Stroud

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» Here.
>> Danny Smallwood

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Laura Renwick, I'm here and we have a
quorum.

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» All right, very well. So, we have a
quorum. We can proceed with our meeting.

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The first order of business tonight is
the approval of the minutes of our last

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regular meeting, which would have been
on May 7th, right?

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It says 2025. That's what threw me
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» Uh-uh.
>> I didn't think it was that long ago.

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» I thought
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» I had corrected that.
>> Very good.

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Does anybody have any comments or
questions about the minutes as they've

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been presented?
>> No.

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» No.
>> All right. Well, then we'll entertain a

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motion to approve them.
>> I make a motion to approve.

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» I'll second.
>> And we'll

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make that unanimous.
On to our new business. Laura, what do

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we have tonight?
>> We have got a application for a new

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a new sign, a freestanding one,
at 40 East Cherry Street.

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So,
it will be similar in style and scale to

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the one that was there
existing,

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but it will be
much

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newer and
>> Modernized, yes, indeed.

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Very very nicely updated records.
>> Yeah.

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So,
I don't know if you have anything that

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you would like to add.
>> We always like to put the applicant on

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the spot, too. You want to come up and
say hi to everybody?

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» Um
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» I'm just here to observe. Um my my
employer, Dr. Craig, really wanted to be

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here, but he's just seeing patients.
>> Sure.

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» Um
and so he he asked if I would just go

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and and let him know if he's getting his
sign.

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» [laughter]
>> Very good. Thank you.

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» Yeah.
>> Um I I think it's pretty clear they just

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they've got an old sign.
Um it's actually, you know,

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had has had a lot of age on it. They're
wanting to update their their name and

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their graphics, and we're we're going to
go back with just a very similar type

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sign. Um
and you know, replace the old one.

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» And you've installed many of your
similar signs around the city for other

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businesses, and uh this is something
that we uh have seen more than once, and

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they always turn out well.
Uh Laura, do you have uh you have

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anything from from your point of view as
far as things that we should know or

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any questions we should ask?
>> No. Um for freestanding signs like this,

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the
the guidelines are a little bit more

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flexible. It's the the main thing is it
should be proportionate to the building

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and not put in a location where it's
blocking any significant architectural

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features or
uh views of the building or things like

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that, and I think it's consistent with
all of those things.

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Um I did have a question. Is there any
kind of lighting planned?

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» No lighting.
>> Okay.

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» Doesn't look like there was lighting in
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Doesn't not look like there was any
lighting on the old sign, either.

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» No. It's going to be very similar to the
old sign, just just newer and

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up-to-date.
>> I just want to know if there's just

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there's no lighting there.
On the old sign.

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» And it will just be a one-sided sign?
>> That's correct. Yeah, it's kind of

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angled
that way and they're wanting to just go

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back with the same type of sign, same
angle, just I mean we'll move it

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slightly just that way we're not digging
into

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existing
footers, but

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but yeah, I mean it'll be very much the
same.

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» Are you just replacing the face or
replacing some of the structure, too?

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» I think they're wanting to replace the
structure, too.

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» Very good.
>> Cuz it's kind of starting to lean back

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and
you know, they have a they have a life

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to them, the wood posts, so.
>> Sure.

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Very good.
Anybody else on the board have any

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comments or questions?
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» No.
>> If that be the case, then we'll

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entertain a motion to
approve or deny or have any other

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questions.
>> I'll make a motion to approve.

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» I'll second.
>> And let's make that unanimous.

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All right, very good. Thank you and
thank you for coming. Your lovely

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application.
Um our

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next and I guess last piece of new
business, we talked about it when we

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were together last about the
conservation district. The timeline and

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it coming up for review and all that.
Is there anything we really have

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prepared yet for that or is this just
kind of a reminder that we need to do

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that?
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uh earlier this week with the mayor and
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uh Carmen, the planning director. And
just to kind of

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make sure that they were up-to-date on
fact that this deadline was coming up

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and uh to
let them know how I was thinking about

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approaching it. So the way that the the
ordinance is written for the

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conservation district, which is the the
area just outside the courthouse square,

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Um, is that
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3 years after it was enacted, which
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year,
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the ordinance is written such that if a
majority of the property owners do not

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object in writing,
then it would become a full-fledged

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historic district, where we would be
previewing any changes, uh, not just

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demolition and new construction and
moving of buildings like we are right

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now.
So, um, if a majority did object, then

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it would stay as a conservation
district, and, you know, status quo from

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where it is right now.
So, what I am proposing to do is that I

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think we need to have, uh, a public
meeting, probably

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end of August, uh, early September, just
to let people know that that this is

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coming up, and we need to get their
opinions in writing, uh, if they don't

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want to become a historic district. And
then, uh,

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I'll prepare
a, uh,

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some kind of mailing to go out as well,
just to make it as easy as possible for

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people to respond, because
I I can foresee that people wouldn't

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necessarily take the initiative to
provide written comments on their own if

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if they don't have something right in
front of them to provide. So,

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um, that's kind of where we stand, and
the mayor and Carmen were supportive of

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that kind of approach. Um, I think,
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the mayor wants to be sure that some
kind of protection remains for that

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area, and, I mean, nothing has has
really changed since we first designated

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it. It still, you know, has important
buildings, and still important as like a

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gateway to the downtown.
So, I think we want to try to to keep it

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in place. I don't know, I mean my
personal opinion, I don't know that it's

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critical that it becomes a full-fledged
historic district. I think keeping it

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status quo is probably sufficient, but
we'll we'll see what the people

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have to say about it.
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people give their input, those
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something as significant as that change.
So, I I agree. I think that's a good

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approach.

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Does anybody have any questions about
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Very good.
Anything else, Laura? Any announcements?

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» Um
Only other thing coming up, the state

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preservation conference is in Franklin
this year.

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And they will be doing a day-long
training on Tuesday, September 29th,

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specifically for historic review
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For uh preservation commissions,
historic review boards, just to kind of

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help
talk about issues that that our

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communities face dealing with things
like this, and you get a chance to meet

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other people who are doing similar
things around the state. Um

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It's an all
uh all-day conference.

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The the
the commission training is an all-day

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thing. It's like 10 bucks just to cover
your lunch.

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And they it's always a really good
session. So,

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if anybody's interested, let me know and
I can send you details on it.

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» Very good.
Well, thank you for that info.

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All right. Does anybody else have
anything for the good of the order?

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» Has has anybody noticed anything that
I've gone on in the

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the downtown district that I need to
follow up on? I haven't had a chance to

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do a lot down there yet.
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about some myself. I've been around
there that Maybe I should, but I don't

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know of anything.

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Well, that being the case then, to make
this official,

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I'll accept a motion to adjourn.
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» I don't know. I'm kind of enjoying it.
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more about your leverage?
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» Okay. [laughter]

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» I'm sorry.
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» Well, thank you all for coming. Thanks
for your application. I appreciate that.

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» And I will type you up the minutes and
send them your way

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