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>> You're good.
[0:11] All right. Well, 6:00 having a rib,
what's the right word for that, Bill?
[0:17] » Passed that church.
>> That's enough.
[0:19] We're going to call to order
this month's meeting of the city of
[0:23] Scottsboro Historic Review Board.
We'll start with our roll call.
[0:28] » Eric Lowry
>> Here.
[0:30] » Paul Verno
Bill Copeland
[0:32] » Here.
>> Debbie Stroud
[0:33] » Here.
>> Danny Smallwood
[0:36] Laura Renwick, I'm here and we have a
quorum.
[0:39] » All right, very well. So, we have a
quorum. We can proceed with our meeting.
[0:43] The first order of business tonight is
the approval of the minutes of our last
[0:48] regular meeting, which would have been
on May 7th, right?
[0:53] It says 2025. That's what threw me
there.
[0:56] » Uh-uh.
>> I didn't think it was that long ago.
[0:59] » I thought
>> [laughter]
[1:00] » I had corrected that.
>> Very good.
[1:03] Does anybody have any comments or
questions about the minutes as they've
[1:07] been presented?
>> No.
[1:08] » No.
>> All right. Well, then we'll entertain a
[1:11] motion to approve them.
>> I make a motion to approve.
[1:15] » I'll second.
>> And we'll
[1:16] make that unanimous.
On to our new business. Laura, what do
[1:21] we have tonight?
>> We have got a application for a new
[1:26] a new sign, a freestanding one,
at 40 East Cherry Street.
[1:34] So,
it will be similar in style and scale to
[1:39] the one that was there
existing,
[1:43] but it will be
much
[1:46] newer and
>> Modernized, yes, indeed.
[1:50] Very very nicely updated records.
>> Yeah.
[1:57] So,
I don't know if you have anything that
[2:00] you would like to add.
>> We always like to put the applicant on
[2:05] the spot, too. You want to come up and
say hi to everybody?
[2:07] » Um
>> [laughter]
[2:09] » I'm just here to observe. Um my my
employer, Dr. Craig, really wanted to be
[2:14] here, but he's just seeing patients.
>> Sure.
[2:16] » Um
and so he he asked if I would just go
[2:20] and and let him know if he's getting his
sign.
[2:23] » [laughter]
>> Very good. Thank you.
[2:26] » Yeah.
>> Um I I think it's pretty clear they just
[2:31] they've got an old sign.
Um it's actually, you know,
[2:35] had has had a lot of age on it. They're
wanting to update their their name and
[2:39] their graphics, and we're we're going to
go back with just a very similar type
[2:43] sign. Um
and you know, replace the old one.
[2:48] » And you've installed many of your
similar signs around the city for other
[2:52] businesses, and uh this is something
that we uh have seen more than once, and
[2:57] they always turn out well.
Uh Laura, do you have uh you have
[3:00] anything from from your point of view as
far as things that we should know or
[3:05] any questions we should ask?
>> No. Um for freestanding signs like this,
[3:11] the
the guidelines are a little bit more
[3:14] flexible. It's the the main thing is it
should be proportionate to the building
[3:19] and not put in a location where it's
blocking any significant architectural
[3:23] features or
uh views of the building or things like
[3:27] that, and I think it's consistent with
all of those things.
[3:31] Um I did have a question. Is there any
kind of lighting planned?
[3:35] » No lighting.
>> Okay.
[3:43] » Doesn't look like there was lighting in
the
[3:44] Doesn't not look like there was any
lighting on the old sign, either.
[3:48] » No. It's going to be very similar to the
old sign, just just newer and
[3:52] up-to-date.
>> I just want to know if there's just
[3:55] there's no lighting there.
On the old sign.
[4:00] » And it will just be a one-sided sign?
>> That's correct. Yeah, it's kind of
[4:04] angled
that way and they're wanting to just go
[4:07] back with the same type of sign, same
angle, just I mean we'll move it
[4:11] slightly just that way we're not digging
into
[4:15] existing
footers, but
[4:17] but yeah, I mean it'll be very much the
same.
[4:21] » Are you just replacing the face or
replacing some of the structure, too?
[4:25] » I think they're wanting to replace the
structure, too.
[4:27] » Very good.
>> Cuz it's kind of starting to lean back
[4:29] and
you know, they have a they have a life
[4:32] to them, the wood posts, so.
>> Sure.
[4:35] Very good.
Anybody else on the board have any
[4:38] comments or questions?
>> No.
[4:40] » No.
>> If that be the case, then we'll
[4:43] entertain a motion to
approve or deny or have any other
[4:47] questions.
>> I'll make a motion to approve.
[4:50] » I'll second.
>> And let's make that unanimous.
[4:55] All right, very good. Thank you and
thank you for coming. Your lovely
[4:58] application.
Um our
[5:01] next and I guess last piece of new
business, we talked about it when we
[5:05] were together last about the
conservation district. The timeline and
[5:09] it coming up for review and all that.
Is there anything we really have
[5:13] prepared yet for that or is this just
kind of a reminder that we need to do
[5:16] that?
>> So I I talked
[5:19] uh earlier this week with the mayor and
uh
[5:22] uh Carmen, the planning director. And
just to kind of
[5:26] make sure that they were up-to-date on
fact that this deadline was coming up
[5:32] and uh to
let them know how I was thinking about
[5:37] approaching it. So the way that the the
ordinance is written for the
[5:41] conservation district, which is the the
area just outside the courthouse square,
[5:46] Um, is that
uh,
[5:49] 3 years after it was enacted, which
would be, uh, November 27th of this
[5:55] year,
um,
[5:59] the ordinance is written such that if a
majority of the property owners do not
[6:05] object in writing,
then it would become a full-fledged
[6:09] historic district, where we would be
previewing any changes, uh, not just
[6:15] demolition and new construction and
moving of buildings like we are right
[6:18] now.
So, um, if a majority did object, then
[6:24] it would stay as a conservation
district, and, you know, status quo from
[6:28] where it is right now.
So, what I am proposing to do is that I
[6:33] think we need to have, uh, a public
meeting, probably
[6:37] end of August, uh, early September, just
to let people know that that this is
[6:42] coming up, and we need to get their
opinions in writing, uh, if they don't
[6:47] want to become a historic district. And
then, uh,
[6:51] I'll prepare
a, uh,
[6:55] some kind of mailing to go out as well,
just to make it as easy as possible for
[6:58] people to respond, because
I I can foresee that people wouldn't
[7:02] necessarily take the initiative to
provide written comments on their own if
[7:08] if they don't have something right in
front of them to provide. So,
[7:12] um, that's kind of where we stand, and
the mayor and Carmen were supportive of
[7:18] that kind of approach. Um, I think,
uh,
[7:23] the mayor wants to be sure that some
kind of protection remains for that
[7:27] area, and, I mean, nothing has has
really changed since we first designated
[7:32] it. It still, you know, has important
buildings, and still important as like a
[7:38] gateway to the downtown.
So, I think we want to try to to keep it
[7:42] in place. I don't know, I mean my
personal opinion, I don't know that it's
[7:46] critical that it becomes a full-fledged
historic district. I think keeping it
[7:51] status quo is probably sufficient, but
we'll we'll see what the people
[7:56] have to say about it.
>> I do think it's important that I have
[8:00] people give their input, those
especially who would be affected by
[8:04] something as significant as that change.
So, I I agree. I think that's a good
[8:08] approach.
[8:12] Does anybody have any questions about
that?
[8:15] Very good.
Anything else, Laura? Any announcements?
[8:19] » Um
Only other thing coming up, the state
[8:24] preservation conference is in Franklin
this year.
[8:28] And they will be doing a day-long
training on Tuesday, September 29th,
[8:34] specifically for historic review
>> Tuesday, September 29th.
[8:40] For uh preservation commissions,
historic review boards, just to kind of
[8:45] help
talk about issues that that our
[8:49] communities face dealing with things
like this, and you get a chance to meet
[8:53] other people who are doing similar
things around the state. Um
[8:57] It's an all
uh all-day conference.
[9:01] The the
the commission training is an all-day
[9:04] thing. It's like 10 bucks just to cover
your lunch.
[9:08] And they it's always a really good
session. So,
[9:12] if anybody's interested, let me know and
I can send you details on it.
[9:16] » Very good.
Well, thank you for that info.
[9:20] All right. Does anybody else have
anything for the good of the order?
[9:24] » Has has anybody noticed anything that
I've gone on in the
[9:28] the downtown district that I need to
follow up on? I haven't had a chance to
[9:33] do a lot down there yet.
>> I haven't. I've been I've been out and
[9:36] about some myself. I've been around
there that Maybe I should, but I don't
[9:40] know of anything.
[9:48] Well, that being the case then, to make
this official,
[9:52] I'll accept a motion to adjourn.
>> I'll make a motion to adjourn.
[9:56] » I don't know. I'm kind of enjoying it.
>> Are you? Okay. You want to tell us some
[9:59] more about your leverage?
>> No.
[10:01] » Okay. [laughter]
[10:04] » I'm sorry.
>> [laughter]
[10:07] » Well, thank you all for coming. Thanks
for your application. I appreciate that.
[10:11] » And I will type you up the minutes and
send them your way
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