1 00:00:50,239 --> 00:01:15,190 Yeah. 2 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,840 Where's that coming from? 3 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,920 When I turned it off, I could hear it. I 4 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,640 thought it was me. 5 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:37,429 Awesome. 6 00:01:37,439 --> 00:01:52,469 Thank you. 7 00:01:52,479 --> 00:02:31,910 Almost. 8 00:02:31,920 --> 00:02:34,000 Good evening. We'll get uh tonight's 9 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,680 meeting of the Scranton City Planning 10 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:40,229 Commission called to order. 11 00:02:40,239 --> 00:02:41,840 Don, would you go ahead and do roll 12 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,190 call, please? 13 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:46,560 Mr. Fehey 14 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:47,120 >> here. 15 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,400 >> Mr. Flanigan 16 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:49,280 >> here. 17 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:50,560 >> Miss Davis 18 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:51,440 >> here. 19 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:52,640 >> Mr. 20 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:53,440 >> here. 21 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:54,640 >> Mr. Chair 22 00:02:54,640 --> 00:02:58,869 >> here. 23 00:02:58,879 --> 00:03:01,120 » All right. Uh, first item under old 24 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,280 business is review of the preliminary 25 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,440 final land development plan for the Copa 26 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,440 Cabana Glamping Complex, Morgan Highway. 27 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,080 Any updates on that project, Don or 28 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:16,879 Casey? Uh, no. We got a uh review back 29 00:03:16,879 --> 00:03:19,040 from the soil conservation service and I 30 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,360 think they had some comments, but that 31 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,480 was the only item I've seen on that 32 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,720 since uh the last few months. 33 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,800 >> Okay. 34 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,879 >> Where are we at? Um, as far as 35 00:03:30,879 --> 00:03:33,280 extensions that uh 36 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:34,959 >> uh they gave us an extension. I'll have 37 00:03:34,959 --> 00:03:36,799 to go back and look at the day. 38 00:03:36,799 --> 00:03:38,400 >> Okay. Where we're at. I think I think 39 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,799 it's good through September. 40 00:03:40,799 --> 00:03:43,280 >> Okay. Um, 41 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,080 I mean, obvious I don't remember when we 42 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,120 first looked at at the project, but you 43 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,280 let us know if we get to a point where, 44 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,720 you know, we might need to just 45 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,879 seek, you know, have them resubmited at 46 00:03:56,879 --> 00:03:58,720 some point. I mean, if the project's 47 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,879 moving along or we're still getting some 48 00:04:00,879 --> 00:04:02,799 things coming in, that's one thing. But 49 00:04:02,799 --> 00:04:05,280 if we're not here much either, 50 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,360 >> yeah, I I'll reach out to them to talk 51 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:08,080 to them. 52 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:12,630 >> Okay. 53 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,640 All righty. Any questions from anybody 54 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:19,270 on that project? 55 00:04:19,280 --> 00:04:21,199 All right. Then we'll move on to review 56 00:04:21,199 --> 00:04:22,880 of the preliminary final land 57 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,400 development plan for the construction of 58 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,199 a warehouse facility on a parcel located 59 00:04:27,199 --> 00:04:29,280 on a 56.86 60 00:04:29,280 --> 00:04:31,919 acre parcel between Boulevard A and 61 00:04:31,919 --> 00:04:35,360 Elephant A south of Interstate 81. The 62 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:36,639 proposed improvements for construction 63 00:04:36,639 --> 00:04:39,040 are two warehouse facilities totaling 64 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,479 495,000 square ft, car and truck parking 65 00:04:42,479 --> 00:04:44,240 facilities, and associated storm water 66 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:50,310 conveyance and infiltration facilities. 67 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,520 Anything on that? 68 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,160 I have been in contact with the 69 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,639 engineer. Um we we issued a draft letter 70 00:04:58,639 --> 00:05:00,880 to to them um because we had had several 71 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,199 preliminary meetings with the uh with 72 00:05:03,199 --> 00:05:05,199 their concept plans and just they were 73 00:05:05,199 --> 00:05:06,880 bouncing different ideas off us but they 74 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,280 did submit officially and we did accept 75 00:05:09,280 --> 00:05:11,680 the plans. I don't remember what month. 76 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,759 Um, we created a draft letter and we 77 00:05:13,759 --> 00:05:14,720 discussed it with them because there was 78 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,400 a traffic item that we wanted them to 79 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,880 address and they subsequently addressed 80 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,199 that by showing they can make the truck 81 00:05:21,199 --> 00:05:24,320 turns at Boulevard and Main Street in 82 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,720 Dixon City. Um, they've also reached out 83 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,160 about several other comments that we 84 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,600 made, but we haven't gone officially on 85 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,199 the record. So, I need to do that 86 00:05:31,199 --> 00:05:33,440 immediately um because I'm anticipating 87 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:34,880 they're going to respond to that draft 88 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,600 letter. Uh and and it's still valid 89 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,520 minus the traffic comment that we made 90 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,360 that they um responded to. Okay. So, 91 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:44,960 they're they're active and I think we 92 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,400 should I'll encourage them to come in 93 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,880 next month. Um assuming they've 94 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,400 responded to the review letter that we 95 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,600 send, which I'll do this week. 96 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,160 Okay, great. No, I think that sounds 97 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,479 like a plan. 98 00:05:58,479 --> 00:06:00,160 Uh, Don, did you have any comments on 99 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,199 that project? 100 00:06:01,199 --> 00:06:02,479 >> No. 101 00:06:02,479 --> 00:06:04,080 >> Okay. 102 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,840 >> Working through them. 103 00:06:05,840 --> 00:06:07,680 >> All right, sounds good. Anything from 104 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,560 planning commission members? 105 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,240 >> Yeah, I think if they're ready and and 106 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,319 available next month, um, we can have 107 00:06:14,319 --> 00:06:17,039 them in, invite them in and 108 00:06:17,039 --> 00:06:20,639 take a look at the project. 109 00:06:20,639 --> 00:06:23,039 All right, on to the third item under 110 00:06:23,039 --> 00:06:24,880 old business. Review of preliminary 111 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,639 final land development plan for the 112 00:06:26,639 --> 00:06:28,960 development of 14 apartments with 4,000 113 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,440 square ft of office space and 4,000 114 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,840 square ft of retail space at 1800 North 115 00:06:33,840 --> 00:06:35,039 Washington A as part of the 116 00:06:35,039 --> 00:06:37,440 redevelopment of the former state school 117 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,080 for the deaf site. Look like we have 118 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,639 somebody here uh on the project. So come 119 00:06:42,639 --> 00:06:45,280 on up and introduce yourself for us 120 00:06:45,280 --> 00:06:45,840 again. And 121 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:47,680 >> good evening. Good evening. Dave Leaka 122 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,000 with Ruther and Bowen. 123 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,080 Um, 124 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,000 we're the engineers for the project. We 125 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,120 did receive prior to last month's 126 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,759 meeting comments from your engineer, 127 00:06:59,759 --> 00:07:01,360 which at this point I believe we've 128 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,759 addressed. Uh, there naturally is still 129 00:07:03,759 --> 00:07:06,160 a few outstanding items that we need to 130 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,000 um, well, I guess he needs to look at. I 131 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,120 don't know how much you got to look at 132 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,919 it, Casey, but I know a lot of the a 133 00:07:11,919 --> 00:07:13,919 good portion of them I think we've 134 00:07:13,919 --> 00:07:15,840 addressed other than I think planning 135 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,800 module, which I did submit to um to Don 136 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,280 and he did get back to me. Um we finally 137 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:27,360 got a resolution from PA American as to 138 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,479 what was previously utilized from a flow 139 00:07:30,479 --> 00:07:35,199 standpoint and what we're proposing. Um, 140 00:07:35,199 --> 00:07:38,160 so I did provide that uh information to 141 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,039 Don. He signed off on the city side of 142 00:07:41,039 --> 00:07:42,639 it. We're just waiting for Dumbore 143 00:07:42,639 --> 00:07:44,319 Burough to sign off on their side and 144 00:07:44,319 --> 00:07:47,520 we'll actually submit it to to D 145 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,319 um formally once we have sign off from 146 00:07:50,319 --> 00:07:53,280 Dumbore Burough. 147 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,950 Um 148 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,599 there were a number of comments. Um and 149 00:07:59,599 --> 00:08:06,560 again I I believe we went through and addressed probably 90% of them. 150 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,919 There are some outstanding items. Um 151 00:08:09,919 --> 00:08:12,160 we had some comments received from 152 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,800 conservation district. Um we've 153 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,800 addressed those and resubmitted to them. 154 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,879 So, we're kind of waiting for their 155 00:08:18,879 --> 00:08:20,560 response, [clears throat] excuse me, 156 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,680 back um as to whether or not they have 157 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,160 anything additional um or if they're 158 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:30,479 ready to issue a permit. Um Lacawana 159 00:08:30,479 --> 00:08:32,159 County Regional Planning Commission. We 160 00:08:32,159 --> 00:08:33,839 submitted to them and I provided a 161 00:08:33,839 --> 00:08:37,200 letter to the city uh stating that they 162 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,000 did not need to review it because 163 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,839 there's really no new buildings. It's 164 00:08:41,839 --> 00:08:44,480 really just parking and storm water. So 165 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,920 it it's excluded from from their review. 166 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,160 So they did provide a letters stating 167 00:08:50,160 --> 00:09:03,030 that uh you guys have a copy of that. Um 168 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,000 we are still waiting for a lighting 169 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,640 plan. Uh I talked to the developers. We 170 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,160 didn't really have um locations shown on 171 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,399 our utility plan that showed lighting. 172 00:09:14,399 --> 00:09:16,720 So, I believe they're engaging 173 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,200 electrical engineer just to lay out 174 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,720 lights and actually provide a 175 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,519 photometrics plan uh showing there's no 176 00:09:23,519 --> 00:09:25,760 overshot on to neighboring properties 177 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,440 and whatnot. 178 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,440 And the landscape plan is in the process 179 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:34,550 of being developed as well. 180 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:37,360 Um there were a few and I don't know we 181 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,839 didn't waivers at the last meeting. 182 00:09:39,839 --> 00:09:41,040 Correct. 183 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:42,480 >> I don't Yeah, I don't remember. I was 184 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:43,839 going to ask. I have them listed here. 185 00:09:43,839 --> 00:09:46,480 >> So, yeah. So, so I did um provide a 186 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,519 letter um of the waivers were 187 00:09:49,519 --> 00:09:52,240 requesting. Uh there are three waivers. 188 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,000 One of them has to do with scale. One in 189 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,240 equals 50. Our believe our plans are at 190 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,720 1 in equals 30, which is actually a 191 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:03,360 larger um a larger scale, a little 192 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,279 easier to read, but we're rest 193 00:10:05,279 --> 00:10:09,040 requesting a waiver on the 50 1 in 194 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,080 equals 50 foot requirement. 195 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,040 Um requesting a waiver on the minimum 196 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,399 pipe size of 15 in. the major like 197 00:10:18,399 --> 00:10:20,720 pretty much all the pipes uh within this 198 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,839 project are 199 00:10:23,839 --> 00:10:25,440 um 200 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,279 going to be owned and maintained by the 201 00:10:27,279 --> 00:10:28,800 property owner. There's nothing that 202 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,120 we're extending out into into a street 203 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:32,800 somewhere that's going to be a 204 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,760 requirement of the city. Um and I 205 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,240 believe we're going from 12 or from 15 206 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:42,560 to 12. We have a 12-in um outlet pipe 207 00:10:42,560 --> 00:10:45,519 that 208 00:10:45,519 --> 00:10:48,560 really didn't need to be a 15 in because 209 00:10:48,560 --> 00:10:51,600 there the flow is pretty small. Um and 210 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:52,880 the other one was the improvement 211 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,800 guarantee being that there is no 212 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,800 improvements that the city needs to take 213 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,600 over. Um 214 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:04,800 we would like to request a waiver from the guarantee. Um, and typically 215 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,399 that's when you're working and doing 216 00:11:06,399 --> 00:11:08,800 stuff uh within the public right away 217 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,160 that's going to get dedicated to the 218 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:11,839 city. None of there's nothing here 219 00:11:11,839 --> 00:11:13,440 that's going to be dedicated to the city 220 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,000 for this project. So, uh, that would be 221 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,920 the third waiver. So, I believe that 222 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,760 would probably be the the first item 223 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:24,959 that we would need to to address from your side, the waivers. 224 00:11:24,959 --> 00:11:28,240 Um, let me just go through here quickly 225 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,040 just to see if there's anything 226 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:35,910 that I'm missing. 227 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,760 Dave, we we have a we'll have a couple 228 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,279 follow-up comments on some of the 229 00:11:39,279 --> 00:11:40,720 responses, but you know, they they've 230 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,279 done a really good job of of, you know, 231 00:11:43,279 --> 00:11:44,640 responding to these comments. You 232 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,160 mentioned lighting and landscaping is 233 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,480 outstanding. Their outside agency permit 234 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,560 with the conservation district. Um, I 235 00:11:50,560 --> 00:11:52,320 think the only item that I still want to 236 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,240 discuss and maybe I thought we talked 237 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:55,440 about it last time, but maybe we 238 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,680 weren't. Um, maybe we worded it wrong, 239 00:11:57,680 --> 00:11:59,519 but the internal circulation with the 240 00:11:59,519 --> 00:12:01,600 sidewalks. I think what we were trying 241 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,079 to to say last time is we we wanted to 242 00:12:04,079 --> 00:12:08,480 ensure that you had a decent connection 243 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,920 to the the local streets and I I think 244 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,680 on the plan that doesn't happen in some 245 00:12:13,680 --> 00:12:17,350 locations. 246 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,440 Uh so I just I it's something I I'd 247 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,360 really like you to look at. Um 248 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,920 >> we we could certainly do that. Um I I 249 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:25,360 could even give you a call and we can 250 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:26,240 talk about it quickly. 251 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:27,360 >> Yeah. because we've drawn them out and 252 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,079 there's lots of internal path, but I I 253 00:12:30,079 --> 00:12:31,519 think we would like to go the extra step 254 00:12:31,519 --> 00:12:32,959 and make sure they they hit the city 255 00:12:32,959 --> 00:12:33,839 streets 256 00:12:33,839 --> 00:12:35,279 >> since there's going to be, you know, 257 00:12:35,279 --> 00:12:36,880 residents here that that would want 258 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:38,720 >> Sure. No, we can definitely do that. 259 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:39,279 >> Okay. 260 00:12:39,279 --> 00:12:41,760 >> I I mean there I don't think that's a 261 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:42,800 big deal in the overall 262 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:43,920 >> I don't either. I just I just want to 263 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,040 make sure we take it off. the two 264 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,000 comments um and I I think we talked 265 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,560 about them briefly 266 00:12:50,560 --> 00:12:53,839 last month with regards to zoning were 267 00:12:53,839 --> 00:12:56,720 the requirements from the FAA and Pendot 268 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,320 for 269 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:03,120 um Bureau of Aviation clearance. No, 270 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,680 it's it's zoning one and two. We're not 271 00:13:05,680 --> 00:13:08,560 building any new buildings. So So from 272 00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:11,440 my perspective, if we're not going up 273 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,760 with building heights, I'm not sure that 274 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,920 there there's a need for us to get 275 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,200 um any type of approval from PennDOT or 276 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,680 the FAA regarding 277 00:13:23,680 --> 00:13:24,880 height 278 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,320 >> because the buildings are increased. 279 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,160 >> Yeah, that won't that won't be returned. 280 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:33,829 Comment understood. 281 00:13:33,839 --> 00:13:37,279 » Um I think that that was it. I mean if 282 00:13:37,279 --> 00:13:40,639 whatever additional that you guys have 283 00:13:40,639 --> 00:13:43,600 and especially the connectivity uh we 284 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,839 can definitely discuss that and come up 285 00:13:45,839 --> 00:13:48,240 with a solution on that shouldn't be an 286 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:48,880 issue. 287 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,880 >> Yeah, it's a minor item compared to the 288 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:57,670 overall scope of work. So 289 00:13:57,680 --> 00:14:00,320 » all right. So I I yeah I mean I I'm 290 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,079 assuming at this point you guys need to 291 00:14:02,079 --> 00:14:05,920 address the three waivers um because 292 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,320 from our end of it if you guys approve 293 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:09,920 those waivers we'll note them on the 294 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,760 drawing so when they are approved 295 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,279 everything is recorded um that states 296 00:14:15,279 --> 00:14:18,079 the waivers were granted. So 297 00:14:18,079 --> 00:14:19,839 >> okay any uh do you have any other 298 00:14:19,839 --> 00:14:22,480 comments Casey? 299 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,240 Just just some follow-ups on some of the 300 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,519 other comments but I don't think it's worthy of discussion at this point. 301 00:14:27,519 --> 00:14:29,199 I think they've addressed substantially 302 00:14:29,199 --> 00:14:31,040 addressed the comments and and regarding 303 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,519 the waivers, their scale, minimum pipe 304 00:14:33,519 --> 00:14:35,600 size, and this uh improvements 305 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,199 guarantee. We have no objection to those 306 00:14:37,199 --> 00:14:38,320 waivers. 307 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,399 >> Okay. Um so we can go ahead and approve 308 00:14:40,399 --> 00:14:42,480 the the waivers tonight. 309 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,000 >> Yeah, I recommend. 310 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,560 >> Okay. Um I don't have uh I don't have 311 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,199 those in front of me. I jotted down 312 00:14:49,199 --> 00:14:55,910 >> some notes on the the three of them, but 313 00:14:55,920 --> 00:15:05,269 thank you. 314 00:15:05,279 --> 00:15:08,480 Okay. So, we'll be looking for a motion 315 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,800 first to approve a waiver requested for 316 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,600 relief of plan scale from 1 in to 50 317 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,399 foot to 1 in 30 foot to provide greater 318 00:15:16,399 --> 00:15:20,560 detail the proposed plans. 319 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:21,839 >> Do we have a motion? 320 00:15:21,839 --> 00:15:23,040 >> So moved. 321 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,120 >> Have a second. 322 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:25,920 >> Second. 323 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,000 >> All right. All in favor say I. 324 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:28,959 >> I. 325 00:15:28,959 --> 00:15:31,440 >> Any opposed? 326 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,480 Motion passes. Uh second waiver. We'll 327 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:38,240 be looking for a motion uh requesting 328 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,720 uh waiver from the minimum 15in diameter 329 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,320 for the proposed 12in storm pipes. 330 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:48,470 Do we have a motion? 331 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:49,360 » So moved. 332 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,040 >> Thank you. Second. 333 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:52,720 >> Second. 334 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,720 >> All in favor? 335 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:55,600 I 336 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:56,320 >> I 337 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,560 >> any opposed? 338 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,720 All right, that waiver is approved. Um 339 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,759 and the third waiver is uh from the 340 00:16:03,759 --> 00:16:06,079 improvement guarantee requirements uh in 341 00:16:06,079 --> 00:16:08,399 the SAO uh for the reasons that were 342 00:16:08,399 --> 00:16:10,079 discussed. 343 00:16:10,079 --> 00:16:13,040 Do we have a motion? 344 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:14,000 >> So moved. 345 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,759 >> Second. All in favor say I. 346 00:16:17,759 --> 00:16:19,440 >> I. 347 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,399 Great. And the um Casey, the uh I know 348 00:16:22,399 --> 00:16:24,240 we had talked about the FAA approval. 349 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,000 So, is that does that require a waiver 350 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,560 or is that um 351 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,040 >> that's a zoning? I'll take a look at 352 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:32,880 that, but yeah, I I don't think that 353 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,199 needs a waiver from the commission. 354 00:16:35,199 --> 00:16:36,959 >> It was a zoning comment. 355 00:16:36,959 --> 00:16:37,519 >> Okay. 356 00:16:37,519 --> 00:16:40,000 >> That I just don't think applies because 357 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,680 we're not building up. 358 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,759 >> Okay. Um great. Okay. So, you've got 359 00:16:47,759 --> 00:16:49,199 your waiverss. Um, it sounds like 360 00:16:49,199 --> 00:16:50,959 there's a little more work that still 361 00:16:50,959 --> 00:16:53,600 needs to be done and then we'll 362 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,519 take a look at the project uh maybe next 363 00:16:55,519 --> 00:17:00,389 month. 364 00:17:00,399 --> 00:17:02,560 Sound like a plan, 365 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,039 >> I guess. 366 00:17:05,039 --> 00:17:06,480 Is that I mean, is that all right? Were 367 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:06,959 you looking for 368 00:17:06,959 --> 00:17:09,919 >> No, I mean naturally a conditional 369 00:17:09,919 --> 00:17:11,839 approval would be great, but if you guys 370 00:17:11,839 --> 00:17:13,679 feel as though we need to come back with 371 00:17:13,679 --> 00:17:15,919 some of those couple other items, we we 372 00:17:15,919 --> 00:17:18,559 could certainly do that. What are uh I 373 00:17:18,559 --> 00:17:20,079 mean what what's your recommendation 374 00:17:20,079 --> 00:17:21,760 Casey? Is there I mean I know you 375 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,000 mentioned um you know some of the the 376 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,000 sidewalks and the circulation. We 377 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,600 haven't seen the the lighting plan or 378 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:33,270 landscaping plans. 379 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,320 Yeah. I mean our our our biggest items 380 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,120 remaining I guess would be the some 381 00:17:39,120 --> 00:17:40,880 follow up on some existing sewer just 382 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,640 showing the connectivity internally. Um 383 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:45,760 you know there's a number of buildings 384 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,240 on site and that's not necessarily 385 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:49,919 outlined. I don't know if that's an 386 00:17:49,919 --> 00:17:52,799 issue or not. Maybe, maybe not. Uh 387 00:17:52,799 --> 00:17:54,799 lighting, landscaping, 388 00:17:54,799 --> 00:17:58,559 uh the the sidewalks, 389 00:17:58,559 --> 00:18:00,480 uh and a couple storm water comments 390 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,880 just about 391 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,600 some of the means and methods, we'll 392 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,120 say, of of what was done. I mean, 393 00:18:07,120 --> 00:18:08,559 substantially they're they they meet the 394 00:18:08,559 --> 00:18:10,000 ordinance, but there's there's just some 395 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,880 questions we have about design storms 396 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,400 and things like that. So, I mean, 397 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,280 they're they're in a good place. Um we 398 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,000 if they have their MPDS is it like a 399 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,400 technical review or is it or is it just 400 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,520 >> that was we addressed comments back 401 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,240 >> regarding that. So um that was 402 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,679 resubmitted. I'm hoping to hear back 403 00:18:29,679 --> 00:18:31,440 from them within the next week or two. 404 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,039 >> Right. And this this project just as 405 00:18:33,039 --> 00:18:36,559 just to kind of go back a bit is is 406 00:18:36,559 --> 00:18:38,160 a small part of it is in the city of 407 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,320 Scranton. It's um you know joint jointly 408 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:41,600 with Dunore Burough. I don't know how 409 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,000 that's going on that end. I haven't 410 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,679 >> they didn't have a meeting last month. 411 00:18:45,679 --> 00:18:48,080 So I'm going to our first meeting this 412 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,039 week for for Dumbward Burough. 413 00:18:51,039 --> 00:18:52,559 >> I mean so for so for the portion that 414 00:18:52,559 --> 00:18:54,320 lies within the city of Scranton it may 415 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,480 be appropriate to I mean it's at your at 416 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,880 your pleasure to entertain that but 417 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,200 >> and we did actually receive comments 418 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,840 from Dunore Bureau's engineer and have 419 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,679 addressed those as well and sent those 420 00:19:05,679 --> 00:19:09,280 back. So, I'm hoping at the Dunmore 421 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,200 meeting next week that we can get 422 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:12,720 conditional approval because we did 423 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,200 address the majority of their comments 424 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,240 uh other than the MPDS permit and a 425 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:19,840 couple other minor ones. So, 426 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,160 >> Mhm. 427 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,320 >> Okay. 428 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:25,760 Um, I mean, it sounds to me like 429 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,200 there's, you know, probably a few things 430 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:28,640 at least the planning commission would 431 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,160 want to see the the additional 432 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:31,760 sidewalks, the landscaping plan, 433 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,080 lighting plans, and and whatnot before 434 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:38,400 we um provided conditional approval or 435 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,440 final approval in that case. So, um, 436 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,200 yeah, why don't we wait? 437 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:44,400 >> We'll go and we'll provide another 438 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:45,520 review letter. We received a 439 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,440 resubmission uh recently and we'll go on 440 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,200 record with that and that will likely 441 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:53,360 clear up most of these comments. So that should be a non-issue next. 442 00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:55,039 >> Yeah. And I I'll I'll give you a call 443 00:19:55,039 --> 00:19:58,000 and we can talk about the connect or 444 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,120 connectivity uh issue and we'll we'll do 445 00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:03,440 what we need to do to to address that. 446 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:04,400 >> Okay. Thank you. 447 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,400 >> Okay. Sounds good. 448 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:07,039 >> Thank you. 449 00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:15,270 >> Yeah. Thank you. Appreciate the update. 450 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,600 » All right. Under new business, uh we 451 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,360 have the review of preliminary final 452 00:20:19,360 --> 00:20:20,559 land development plan for the 453 00:20:20,559 --> 00:20:23,440 development of an 1,858 454 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,760 square foot building proposed as a cigar 455 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:30,640 bar at 1545 Albbright Avenue. 456 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,280 Don or Casey want to provide a little 457 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,080 info about this project? 458 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,559 >> Yes, this in addition to an existing 459 00:20:38,559 --> 00:20:40,400 building. They're right in there behind 460 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,880 AutoZone off Greenidge Street. It's 461 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,400 going to be a cigar bar and uh golf 462 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,039 simulator 463 00:20:49,039 --> 00:20:50,640 facility. 464 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,080 Uh it's in a flood zone, but they have 465 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,760 provided us with the the flood 466 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,600 information. 467 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,960 Uh I think they still have a number of 468 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,880 comments that they're still working 469 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,039 through. 470 00:21:05,039 --> 00:21:06,880 Yeah, we issued a letter earlier this 471 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,280 week. Um, obviously the the the flood 472 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,039 the elevation certificate was one of one 473 00:21:11,039 --> 00:21:12,480 of the comments which they provided 474 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,679 today. Um, we had a question about 475 00:21:15,679 --> 00:21:17,280 zoning because there there's not a 476 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:18,640 permitted use in the light industrial 477 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,039 zone, but I think that's resolved. 478 00:21:21,039 --> 00:21:22,799 >> Yeah. Yeah, we're we're okay on the 479 00:21:22,799 --> 00:21:24,000 zoning. So 480 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,760 >> So they have some some buffering to 481 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,760 provide uh based on the zoning 482 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,000 ordinance, their sewage planning. Um, 483 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,600 they don't really have a storm water 484 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,080 plan because this is this site is almost 485 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,760 entirely impervious in the existing 486 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,240 condition. Um, and they're using like a 487 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,919 pvious 488 00:21:39,919 --> 00:21:42,799 pavement of like pavers of some sort to 489 00:21:42,799 --> 00:21:44,799 reduce their impact. So 490 00:21:44,799 --> 00:21:47,039 >> that's what the true grid uh the true 491 00:21:47,039 --> 00:21:48,640 pavers are. Yeah, I had a question about 492 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:49,120 that. 493 00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:50,720 >> Right. So the letter was really light. I 494 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,159 mean it was a it was a good submission. 495 00:21:52,159 --> 00:21:54,320 Uh we accepted it last month. So I guess 496 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:55,840 we can encourage them to come in next 497 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,280 month as well to 498 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,039 >> so they can I don't want to misrepresent 499 00:21:59,039 --> 00:22:01,200 what they're doing. Um so they can talk 500 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,840 about it to us. But uh did we accept 501 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,559 this one last last month? 502 00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:09,679 the person it came in like literally the 503 00:22:09,679 --> 00:22:11,200 day of or the day before the meeting. So 504 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,400 I don't I don't know if we did. 505 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,000 >> Yeah. I don't think we we did so we 506 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,600 could formally accept it. 507 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:16,480 >> It's complete tonight 508 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,799 >> for sure. Yes. I would recommend that we 509 00:22:18,799 --> 00:22:20,799 accept it and start the review clock. 510 00:22:20,799 --> 00:22:23,120 >> Okay. 511 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:25,120 >> All right. Um initial questions from 512 00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:26,960 anybody on this project? Anything Casey 513 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:32,149 might be able to answer for us? 514 00:22:32,159 --> 00:22:39,990 Uh there is one uh yeah very close to this. 515 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,559 » Yeah. 516 00:22:42,559 --> 00:22:45,120 >> There you go. 517 00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:47,919 I believe the owners of this property 518 00:22:47,919 --> 00:22:50,640 produce manufacture these manufacture 519 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,159 their own cigars. Right. 520 00:22:52,159 --> 00:22:54,080 >> Is that there's No, I'm not sure. 521 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:59,430 >> I think so. Yeah. Yeah. 522 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,080 Um, I'm not sure. I'm not sure where 523 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:13,270 they 524 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,000 » go. I'm sorry I missed your question 525 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:16,880 there. 526 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,679 >> Do you do you know are they physically 527 00:23:19,679 --> 00:23:21,120 making cigars? 528 00:23:21,120 --> 00:23:23,039 >> No, I don't I don't believe software. 529 00:23:23,039 --> 00:23:25,360 Yeah, just store. Yeah. Uh they're going 530 00:23:25,360 --> 00:23:27,600 to have a large humidor 531 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,919 and uh like I said a golf simulator 532 00:23:31,919 --> 00:23:36,880 and some other simulator I think 533 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,549 >> more of a 534 00:23:40,559 --> 00:23:44,159 it's elevated in part because zone 535 00:23:44,159 --> 00:23:44,720 >> yes 536 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,360 >> that's why handicap ramp 537 00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:48,880 >> Yes. Yeah. I was talking to the 538 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,640 contractor today said yeah to make the 539 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,760 handicap ramp work I had to do like 540 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,320 >> three 541 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,679 loops around 542 00:23:59,679 --> 00:24:01,679 in sense of like how many stories the 543 00:24:01,679 --> 00:24:03,120 building is 544 00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:06,480 >> it's only a one-story building but it's 545 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,080 going to be I think about looking at the 546 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,080 plans it's about five feet higher than 547 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,600 the ground level 548 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:18,630 >> yeah similar 549 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,720 » They uh for a commercial or 550 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,720 non-habitable building, they have the 551 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,480 option to flood uh floodproof or 552 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:34,870 elevate. They chose to elevate. 553 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,760 So, it's still a flood zone even though 554 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,559 there's the trail there 555 00:24:40,559 --> 00:24:42,640 of engineers 556 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,440 along 557 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,039 >> like the flood the floodgates and the 558 00:24:47,039 --> 00:24:49,360 levy despite despite that. Is that what 559 00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:50,080 you're asking? 560 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,600 >> Yeah, it's still considered a flood zone 561 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:52,720 even though there's all this work that 562 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,880 was done. 563 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,120 I'm sorry. 564 00:24:57,120 --> 00:24:59,360 Uh there was a the Armor Corps of 565 00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:00,960 Engineers has done a ton of work along 566 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,120 the Lacuana River with the with the 567 00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:05,520 heritage trail and so that's like on 568 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,400 that side of the river there's a very 569 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,400 high flood wall on the trail. 570 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,320 >> Yeah. Yeah, there is. But it it's still 571 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:13,200 uh 572 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,440 >> it's still a flood zone and that that 573 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,080 portion of the levy hasn't been fully 574 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,240 certified by FEMA yet. 575 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,039 >> Oh, okay. 576 00:25:23,039 --> 00:25:28,310 All right. 577 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,400 Other questions about the 578 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,240 project? 579 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,080 All right. If not, then uh we will 580 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,320 entertain a motion to accept the plans 581 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,669 for review. 582 00:25:39,679 --> 00:25:41,360 » So moved. 583 00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:43,760 >> Have a second. 584 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,960 >> Thank you. Um all in favor or before 585 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,640 that any further questions? 586 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,039 Not all in favor say I. 587 00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:56,000 >> I. Any opposed? 588 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,440 All right. Plans are accepted for 589 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,080 review. 590 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,120 Uh those are all the plans that we had. 591 00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:06,320 Um I don't have any I don't think I have 592 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,159 anything for general commission 593 00:26:08,159 --> 00:26:12,950 business. Did you have anything, Don? 594 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,520 Okay. Um anything uh from the rest of 595 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:21,029 the planning commission? 596 00:26:21,039 --> 00:26:23,679 All right. 597 00:26:23,679 --> 00:26:30,710 Go ahead. Go ahead. 598 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,520 » Um, yeah. Any uh any follow up on that, 599 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,080 Don? I think the last um last we had 600 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:42,470 talked about that. I know we arrived at 601 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,720 » um Gus asked about the uh complete 602 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,710 streets policy. 603 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,320 » So, I think we have a we have a policy 604 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,640 that we were happy with. I think um I 605 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,000 think you were going to follow up to 606 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,919 kind of see what the next steps in the 607 00:26:55,919 --> 00:27:14,630 process might might be. 608 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,480 » Okay. Yeah, I think um yeah, if you 609 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,559 could get some information about what uh 610 00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:19,840 you know what the process might look 611 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:20,880 like. I don't know if something like 612 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,799 that would go through the law department 613 00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:34,470 first and you know how that 614 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:50,549 Right. 615 00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:58,710 » I don't know. 616 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:23,269 intern 617 00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:27,440 also talked about public input. 618 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:33,269 council. 619 00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:50,950 What? Okay. 620 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,760 Yeah. Uh I'm happy to work with with Don 621 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,159 in between uh between now and our next 622 00:28:56,159 --> 00:28:58,480 meeting we can yeah get a little more 623 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,960 information about what the you know what 624 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,279 kind of the the appropriate process 625 00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:05,919 would be for all of this. Um you know 626 00:29:05,919 --> 00:29:08,559 any law department reviews, community 627 00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:11,120 engagement um up to and including you 628 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,960 know getting legislation to city council 629 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,720 and how that all would work out. 630 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,480 I think this new new territory for our 631 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,399 planning commission since uh at least as 632 00:29:20,399 --> 00:29:21,760 long as I've been on the planning 633 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,919 commission. Uh we we haven't proposed 634 00:29:23,919 --> 00:29:27,039 any sort of uh legislation policies 635 00:29:27,039 --> 00:29:28,559 before. So 636 00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:33,830 >> why I want 637 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:39,909 y 638 00:29:39,919 --> 00:29:42,240 agreed. Thanks for bringing that up. 639 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,159 Appreciate it. 640 00:29:44,159 --> 00:29:47,990 All right. Anything else? 641 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,799 If not, we will entertain a motion to 642 00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:54,710 adjurnn. 643 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,080 So, 644 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,200 >> thanks. We have a second. 645 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,279 >> All in favor say I. 646 00:30:01,279 --> 00:30:05,799 >> I. Thank you very much.