1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:15,400 Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the committee of the whole. For Thursday, February 26, 2 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:23,240 26, 26, it is now 930 and I would like to call the meeting to order. I would like to acknowledge 3 00:00:23,240 --> 00:00:29,740 that we work live in play on the territories of the C-Shelton and the Kalamish nations. 4 00:00:29,740 --> 00:00:37,740 And we have an agenda in front of us and I'm looking for a motion to accept the agenda as it is. 5 00:00:37,740 --> 00:00:44,240 I have a motion in the seconder, all in favor. Very good. All right, so we're off to the races. 6 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:52,740 We have no presentations or delegations. I would like a motion to accept all reports. There we go, and all in favor. 7 00:00:52,740 --> 00:00:57,740 Very good. Thank you. So all the reports are now entered in. 8 00:00:57,740 --> 00:01:06,740 Report number 4.1 is a cliff-gilker trail and radiation parks recovery bridges construction award. 9 00:01:06,740 --> 00:01:20,740 And I am going to ask staff to come and introduce this for us. We have a manager of Park Services Jessica Huntington and our General Manager of Community Services. 10 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,240 Thank you. Thank you. Go ahead. 11 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:38,740 Thank you chair. I'm good morning. I'm pleased to present the staff report outlining the Sunshine Coast Community Force proposal for the replacement of the Upper Waterfall and Guards Bridges along with the Associated implications and options for board consideration. 12 00:01:38,740 --> 00:01:49,740 As you prepare to advance the significant component of the cliff-gilker bridges and trail remediation project, I would like to acknowledge and thank the Sunshine Coast Community Force for their generosity. 13 00:01:49,740 --> 00:02:00,740 In supporting the replacement of the bridges and staff are looking forward to working collaboratively to move this project forward. Thank you and I'm happy to answer your questions. 14 00:02:00,740 --> 00:02:12,740 Very good. I looked at my directors to see if they have any questions for staff on this or would like to move the motions as the appear. 15 00:02:13,740 --> 00:02:15,740 Director. Yes. 16 00:02:15,740 --> 00:02:27,740 Thank you chair. This is this feels good. This is something I think we can be really proud of. This is what I think the board wants and I really want to thank staff for getting us there. 17 00:02:27,740 --> 00:02:31,740 And thank you to the community forces as well. 18 00:02:31,740 --> 00:02:41,740 I wish it could have happened a little sooner maybe a month sooner and I would be nice but hopefully that this project teaches us. 19 00:02:41,740 --> 00:02:46,740 That that's an instinct that we should have like when we have issues like the one that happened at Cliff Gilker. 20 00:02:46,740 --> 00:02:52,740 Turn to the community and see how because people want to help, especially with our parks. 21 00:02:52,740 --> 00:02:55,740 So really happy to see this collaboration happening. 22 00:02:55,740 --> 00:03:08,740 And also I want to say thanks to chair Toss who thanks to his pragmatism and his good relationship with the community force was able to to facilitate this. 23 00:03:08,740 --> 00:03:11,740 It's a new way of doing things. 24 00:03:11,740 --> 00:03:21,740 Well, not new new but for us and what a great asset to have community force in the community to help us with these kinds of things. 25 00:03:21,740 --> 00:03:27,740 The question to staff is what would be the. 26 00:03:27,740 --> 00:03:37,740 How would we go about if if the two bridges that we've asked to decommission because the the price tag was was too high. 27 00:03:37,740 --> 00:03:44,740 Is there a way to in the future maybe keep some of the funds that we would be returning to. 28 00:03:44,740 --> 00:03:50,740 The community works fine so in maybe to plan for two more bridges. 29 00:03:50,740 --> 00:03:53,740 How would that work. 30 00:03:53,740 --> 00:04:02,740 That's a good question and I'm going to ask which staff member would like to address that. 31 00:04:02,740 --> 00:04:05,740 Go ahead. 32 00:04:05,740 --> 00:04:07,740 Thank you chair. 33 00:04:07,740 --> 00:04:17,740 I think the simplest solution is I don't want to have any delay in moving what we do know today forward. 34 00:04:17,740 --> 00:04:25,740 So I think we need to do that and then if there is a desire by the board to change the scope of the program to. 35 00:04:25,740 --> 00:04:36,740 Possibly bring back the consideration for the replacement of those other two bridges then we can begin conversations to see how to make that possible and come back to the board with. 36 00:04:36,740 --> 00:04:46,740 The board with a related report and implications and that way we don't we don't delay what we've already put in motion thank you. 37 00:04:46,740 --> 00:04:52,740 Thank you yeah and then the funds that are going to be returned to the community works funder will be available to us for. 38 00:04:52,740 --> 00:04:55,740 Future projects like this. 39 00:04:55,740 --> 00:04:57,740 Go ahead director. 40 00:04:57,740 --> 00:04:59,740 And then direction. 41 00:04:59,740 --> 00:05:00,740 Yeah. 42 00:05:00,740 --> 00:05:01,740 Thank you. 43 00:05:01,740 --> 00:05:06,740 Obviously this is we're all areas that are participating in this really important parks function. 44 00:05:06,740 --> 00:05:08,740 This is good to see. 45 00:05:08,740 --> 00:05:10,740 I hope that. 46 00:05:10,740 --> 00:05:17,740 That the regional district continues to look to and a group with the expertise of the community for us to. 47 00:05:17,740 --> 00:05:22,740 Look at bridges that we have we have lots of water courses on the Sunshine Coast they need bridges. 48 00:05:22,740 --> 00:05:30,740 So we should be in future now looking to looking to groups with the expertise like community force to to build this. 49 00:05:30,740 --> 00:05:38,740 I would ask through you to staff there the report was fairly explanatory the only piece that I would ask about. 50 00:05:38,740 --> 00:05:53,740 And two two questions I'd I'd love to if safe to watch through through you through to staff through to Mr. Hanson to say I love to watch when they if they do if they're possible to see what they're doing that would be great. 51 00:05:53,740 --> 00:05:56,740 This is a good community thing timeline. 52 00:05:56,740 --> 00:06:06,740 It says by the end of the year I hope I'm hoping because that's a that's very broad I'm hoping that. 53 00:06:06,740 --> 00:06:08,740 I'm not I'm not I'm not instructing. 54 00:06:08,740 --> 00:06:16,740 I'm hoping that it would be done by the end of summer if possible because it is the end of February we want to get going. 55 00:06:16,740 --> 00:06:22,740 I think they're fast I think they'll do it properly but fast and I just wanted to see if that was. 56 00:06:22,740 --> 00:06:37,740 If and a non-stracting I'm I'm wondering if then in fact that would come before we we need those bridges back soon additionally I hope that once the decision is made today that we the regional district is quick to go on social media. 57 00:06:37,740 --> 00:06:49,740 To talk about the solution and and enthusiastic timeline because we know what's been happening there in cliffgelker with the this point without the bridges and the attempt by community members to make use of one of the bridges. 58 00:06:49,740 --> 00:07:02,740 And then it wasn't deemed safe so we had to shut that down as the director well knows because he probably felt that push back but I think that if we decide on this and it looks like you will that we talk about it some more. 59 00:07:02,740 --> 00:07:15,740 Thanks yeah thank you absolutely I think it would be great to have some type of public record of the work that's performed because this is an absolutely good news story. 60 00:07:15,740 --> 00:07:21,740 And if staff wants to input on that statement question go ahead. 61 00:07:21,740 --> 00:07:28,740 Thank you chair so in the report I think what we're referring to is the entire project because there is more than just the bridges there's also the trails. 62 00:07:28,740 --> 00:07:34,740 So we are focusing on the bridges that's been our focus in the beginning of January. 63 00:07:34,740 --> 00:07:47,740 We have met with community forest group we walk through sort of all the steps there's I know that they're keen to get going on some of the pieces as well that we can do in absence of a few permits I emailing on site. 64 00:07:47,740 --> 00:07:53,740 So we have been working concurrently at having our agreement ready so that we can launch and get moving. 65 00:07:53,740 --> 00:08:08,740 So I would anticipate that the bridges will be done well before the end of the year but the trails and some of the signs and the rest of the project we'll take a bit of time as well because we're going to focus on the bridges first of all and then we'll keep going concurrently with everything else. 66 00:08:08,740 --> 00:08:15,740 So I anticipate to see some work starting as soon as some other pieces are in place but not a big delay thank you. 67 00:08:15,740 --> 00:08:23,740 Thanks for the answer I like that we are concentrating on the bridges because they were very integral part of this park. 68 00:08:23,740 --> 00:08:27,740 Go ahead, Director McMahon was first. 69 00:08:27,740 --> 00:08:28,740 Thank you. 70 00:08:28,740 --> 00:08:44,740 I'm pleased and relieved to see that we have a really good solution to this bridge challenge and that we're going to get a little I think more nimble about figuring out how to 71 00:08:44,740 --> 00:09:02,740 respond to these bridges we have a lot of aging bridges as somebody pointed out we have a lot of water courses and they they they come with bridges and the cost these days to do it through the. 72 00:09:03,740 --> 00:09:14,740 Without community partnerships is pretty breathtaking so we and many of these bridges were originally community partnerships put them in place. 73 00:09:14,740 --> 00:09:27,740 So we're we're just going to have to be flexible and creative in in our solutions and this is this is great I love reports that say you're spending less money. 74 00:09:27,740 --> 00:09:31,740 We could use more of those thanks. 75 00:09:31,740 --> 00:09:36,740 All right and I'll see a question for staff there, but I'm going to go to director Lee and then director wait. 76 00:09:36,740 --> 00:09:39,740 Thank you chair. 77 00:09:39,740 --> 00:09:48,740 Yes, I the original bridges were built largely by the community and largely on engineered. 78 00:09:48,740 --> 00:09:52,740 But in this instance this is an engineered solution. 79 00:09:52,740 --> 00:09:57,740 I have confidence it's going to be much longer than the 20 years. 80 00:09:57,740 --> 00:10:02,740 Because there is there is ways of of helping to do that. 81 00:10:02,740 --> 00:10:08,740 And I honestly I really like the idea of using wood when you're in the forest. 82 00:10:08,740 --> 00:10:12,740 It's when you're wandering through the forest in a forest trail. 83 00:10:12,740 --> 00:10:21,740 The wood bridges are actually a highlight you sit there watch the water run under so I wanted to commend staff on. 84 00:10:21,740 --> 00:10:25,740 Pivoting and accepting this I think it's absolutely great. 85 00:10:25,740 --> 00:10:33,740 And I'm hoping that we would do fine book and clientele in a very similar manner which would bring the cost down for all of us and. 86 00:10:33,740 --> 00:10:37,740 And actually get it done sooner I hope so. 87 00:10:38,740 --> 00:10:40,740 Thank you. 88 00:10:40,740 --> 00:10:47,740 I commend the director for area A to try and bring his community into this loop. 89 00:10:47,740 --> 00:10:49,740 Go ahead. 90 00:10:49,740 --> 00:10:51,740 I want to do that too. 91 00:10:51,740 --> 00:10:55,740 I mean it's I think there's a very broad. 92 00:10:55,740 --> 00:11:02,740 I'm hoping I want to echo especially director remains comments about. 93 00:11:02,740 --> 00:11:08,740 This this kind of coming up is a really. 94 00:11:08,740 --> 00:11:16,740 Efficient and sensible solution to the challenges asset management challenges at local government's face and. 95 00:11:16,740 --> 00:11:19,740 The regulatory challenges. 96 00:11:19,740 --> 00:11:25,740 And but I do have a question about it too and and which is more broadly. 97 00:11:25,740 --> 00:11:30,740 Is what we've learned from kind of setting up this arrangement with one community group. 98 00:11:30,740 --> 00:11:34,740 And we've learned a lot of the effort and time. 99 00:11:34,740 --> 00:11:42,740 And resources that have been put into that is is that now applicable to be able to perhaps. 100 00:11:42,740 --> 00:11:46,740 Expand this project within Cliff Gilker. 101 00:11:46,740 --> 00:11:56,740 Area A area E other other projects in in the parks department is a lot of the great work that's going into this now going to be able to help us. 102 00:11:56,740 --> 00:11:59,740 And we have a lot of the efforts to to other asset. 103 00:11:59,740 --> 00:12:03,740 Failure or replacements that that are needed. 104 00:12:03,740 --> 00:12:05,740 Thanks for that question. 105 00:12:05,740 --> 00:12:08,740 Can we use this as a template. 106 00:12:08,740 --> 00:12:10,740 Thank you sir. 107 00:12:10,740 --> 00:12:20,740 So we do have a lot of community partnerships that exist already so I think that this is another unique and great opportunity and we do appreciate the sunshine coast community force coming forward. 108 00:12:20,740 --> 00:12:23,740 So this is a model that we will definitely look to. 109 00:12:23,740 --> 00:12:39,740 We need to make sure that we stay with an our purchasing and procurement rules and trade access while so we'll keep that in mind but I think you know we've heard loud and clear that we need to be looking at these type of models and we will. 110 00:12:39,740 --> 00:12:50,740 When possible and keep pursuing other community investments when when the opportunity arises we do know and have identified even for the trail piece of Cliff Gilker we've said from the very beginning. 111 00:12:50,740 --> 00:12:59,740 But when we're ready we'll be looking for volunteers to help supplement and contribute to the project so that continues to be on our radar. Thank you. 112 00:12:59,740 --> 00:13:02,740 Excellent thank you. 113 00:13:02,740 --> 00:13:08,740 Remind the board that we do have a rather lengthy agenda in front of us. 114 00:13:08,740 --> 00:13:19,740 As if everyone's had their pre motion comments I would like to move the recommendations as the appear on page three. 115 00:13:19,740 --> 00:13:24,740 Is there any more discussion on the motion. 116 00:13:24,740 --> 00:13:28,740 Yes it's part of service so it's world directors only. 117 00:13:28,740 --> 00:13:33,740 So seeing none I will call the question all in favor. 118 00:13:33,740 --> 00:13:35,740 Very good that's unanimous. 119 00:13:35,740 --> 00:13:43,740 Thank you. I am going to add a couple of motions that I've put forward to our recording secretary. 120 00:13:43,740 --> 00:13:46,740 And I'll be looking for seconders on the ease. 121 00:13:46,740 --> 00:13:52,740 The motion that staff provide monthly updates to the electoral area services committee meetings. 122 00:13:52,740 --> 00:14:00,740 Regarding the Cliff Gilker Bridge project including any permitting delays or issues that may arise. 123 00:14:00,740 --> 00:14:09,740 As well as a motion that staff invite the Sunshine Coast community force to collaborate on the feasibility of replacing the zigzag bridge. 124 00:14:09,740 --> 00:14:14,740 With a 2027 budget proposal to come forward for consideration. 125 00:14:14,740 --> 00:14:16,740 If viable. 126 00:14:16,740 --> 00:14:19,740 And I'm looking for a seconder for that. 127 00:14:19,740 --> 00:14:20,740 I have a seconder. 128 00:14:20,740 --> 00:14:24,740 Is there any discussion on this motion on these motions? 129 00:14:24,740 --> 00:14:27,740 Hmm. 130 00:14:27,740 --> 00:14:29,740 One at a time very good. 131 00:14:29,740 --> 00:14:30,740 We'll do them one at a time. 132 00:14:30,740 --> 00:14:32,740 So the first motion. 133 00:14:32,740 --> 00:14:35,740 Project updates. 134 00:14:35,740 --> 00:14:37,740 Very good. I have a seconder. 135 00:14:37,740 --> 00:14:40,740 Discussions on the project updates motion. 136 00:14:40,740 --> 00:14:42,740 Then I'll call the question. 137 00:14:42,740 --> 00:14:44,740 All in favor. 138 00:14:44,740 --> 00:14:45,740 Very good. 139 00:14:45,740 --> 00:14:51,740 Okay. We'll move on to the feasibility of replacing the zigzag bridge. 140 00:14:51,740 --> 00:14:53,740 I have a seconder. 141 00:14:53,740 --> 00:14:56,740 Any discussion on that? 142 00:14:56,740 --> 00:14:57,740 Very good. 143 00:14:57,740 --> 00:14:58,740 All in favor. 144 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:06,000 Excellent. Okay. Those pass here. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. Do you have a question on this? 145 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:16,000 I just wanted to point out that the same atmospheric river that did such damage to Cliff Gilgrey Park also took out the bridge at Chasterhouse. 146 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:24,000 And the community is eager to see what we can do to replace it because it has been a long time. 147 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:32,000 We're working on it, but I'm hoping we can come forward with a community partnership on this one as well. Thank you. 148 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:44,000 That's really good. Hopefully this is going to be the beginning of a beautiful relationship of bridge building. Everybody loves a bridge builder. 149 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:54,000 So, with that, taking care of, we're going to move on. Thank you very much, staff. This is a really good news story. 150 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:59,000 Certainly. And thank you to the members of the community forest for coming out today. 151 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,000 Yes. We look forward to working with you guys more. 152 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:09,000 Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. 153 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,000 Go ahead. What's your question? 154 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,000 In the microphone. 155 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:19,000 Or just repeat the question. 156 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,000 So, I see what's happening. 157 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:26,000 So, how long before I get the green light, I can start doing this. 158 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,000 How long is it going to take for? 159 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,000 You have a nice weekend coming out. Right? 160 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:36,000 Right. And so, the community forest is chopping at the bit to get started on this. 161 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:45,000 And I look to staff to see how soon they, there wasn't mentioned that there are some, some parts of the job that can be done immediately. 162 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,000 And I was wondering if they can, they can force that. 163 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,000 Sorry, go ahead. 164 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,000 No. 165 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:55,000 Staff, can you answer the question that this gentleman is given us? 166 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:59,000 Thank you, Chair. We have been working with the Sunshine Community Forest on timelines. 167 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:03,000 We do need to get an agreement in place first from a liability perspective. 168 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,000 So, we have been working on that agreement. 169 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:09,000 We don't see that going to be, it's not going to take a long time, but we do need to get that agreement. 170 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,000 I believe that the Sunshine Coast Community Forest is aware of that. 171 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,000 So, so does they have that in a place? 172 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,000 There's the green light. 173 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,000 Thank you. 174 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,000 Excellent. Okay. How's that answers your question? 175 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,000 Go ahead. 176 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,000 Mr. McMahon. 177 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:26,000 Is there any benefit to moving this item to board today? 178 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,000 Oh, it's going to board our, never mind. 179 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,000 All right, good. 180 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:34,000 So that is a, this will appear, this will appear aboard this afternoon. 181 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,000 Excellent. 182 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,000 So, moving along here to 4.2. 183 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,000 Solid waste management plan, engagement strategy. 184 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:47,000 We have a manager, or sorry, strategic planning coordinator Rempel and manager Mark Sol. 185 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,000 Thank you, staff. 186 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,000 Go ahead and introduce this. 187 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,000 Thank you. 188 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:59,000 On February 12th, 2026, the board directed staff to engage on the draft solid waste management plan with the community. 189 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:07,000 Following provincial guidelines, staff are preparing to engage with the public on the draft plan between March 1st and April 10th of this year. 190 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:15,000 This report provides an outline of the plan methods of engagement during this engagement period and staff are here to answer any questions. 191 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:26,000 I think they're all in shock if that last item. 192 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,000 So, that things actually went through. 193 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,000 Go ahead, vice chair. 194 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,000 Thank you, chair. 195 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,000 I actually don't have any questions for staff. 196 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,000 I happen to see this moving forward. 197 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,000 Six weeks. 198 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,000 It feels like an aggressive timeline. 199 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:49,000 But I know that staff, when they want to get out and engage, they can do a really good job of doing that. 200 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:54,000 So, I'm happy to move the recommendations on page 9 as they are presented. 201 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,000 I see a second term. 202 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,000 Any discussion on this motion? 203 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,000 Go ahead, director. 204 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,000 Yeah. 205 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,000 No. 206 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,000 I'm happy. 207 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,000 This looks like a well thought out public engagement strategy. 208 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,000 And we have a rapidly filling landfill. 209 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:14,000 So, we need to move this forward as expeditiously as we can. 210 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,000 So, thank you very much for this. 211 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:22,000 We look forward to the engagement. 212 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,000 Okay. 213 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:28,000 Seeing no other questions on the motion on the floor. 214 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,000 I will call the question. 215 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,000 All in favor? 216 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,000 Very good that passes. 217 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,000 Thank you. 218 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,000 We are going to move on to item 4.4. 219 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,000 Wastewater. 220 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,000 Oh, sorry. 221 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,000 4.3. 222 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:50,000 Eastborne water system operations and maintenance contract term extension. 223 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:55,000 And we have General Manager Rosenbeut to introduce this. 224 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,000 Yes. 225 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,000 I was expecting one other managers to come in. 226 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,000 But I will take the one other for now. 227 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:10,000 The purpose of this report is to seek board approval for contract fixed ends for our operating and maintenance 228 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:15,000 contractor at the areas for our Eastborne water system. 229 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:24,000 Our Eastborne water system is an SOD system that is operated and maintained by a contractor for logistics purposes. 230 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:34,000 And it's going a very satisfactory and that's why we're proposing it into the extension to the contract. 231 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,000 Thank you. 232 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,000 All right. 233 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,000 Thanks for joining us. 234 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,000 Manager Gears. 235 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,000 Give us an. 236 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,000 And I'm going to look to Director McMahon. 237 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,000 You know, question about this. 238 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,000 Yes. 239 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:53,000 I just was trying to remember where we are at in the saga of the Eastborne water supply, which has been, you know, playing out for quite some time. 240 00:20:53,000 --> 00:21:03,000 Now, so how does this to your contract extension fit into any other plans that we've got going. 241 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,000 Thank you for the question. 242 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:11,000 It's actually it's almost unrelated. 243 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,000 Because this is. 244 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:17,000 It will take up these two years for us as well for the new wells to be developed. 245 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:23,000 We've experienced some in other projects that we're planning. 246 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,000 We. 247 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:34,000 We confirmed that there was some archaeological artifacts are areas with high archaeological. 248 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,000 Potential that we need to do with in the project area. 249 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:42,000 So we're working to resolve those. 250 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,000 And but at the end time, we are preparing a. 251 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:51,000 Gospel proposals for a contractor to help us with the design and. 252 00:21:51,000 --> 00:22:00,000 Of that of those new wells and associated infrastructure. 253 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,000 Go ahead. 254 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,000 Director Stanford, sorry. 255 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,000 I've got something in my throat. 256 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,000 Thank you chair. 257 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,000 It's really good to see this. 258 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:17,000 This is a local company that has a strong family presence on Keats. 259 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:23,000 They, they are well connected to the community and responsive to any issues. 260 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:32,000 So I would like to move the recommendations as presented on page 15 of the agenda package. 261 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,000 And we have a second here for that. 262 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,000 And I'm looking to see if anybody wants to. 263 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,000 Okay, go ahead. 264 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,000 Vice chair. 265 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,000 Thank you chair. 266 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,000 Just a comment that thank you. 267 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:49,000 Director Stanford for mentioning that it is like a local on island company and family. 268 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:54,000 Because a lot of the times when the regional district ends up responsible for the water systems. 269 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,000 We end up having. 270 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:01,000 Contractors or consultants that have to travel to get to the system and. 271 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:06,000 Thinking about you know water system operations and mountain water system. 272 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:11,000 You really do need eyes on it daily and emergency access all the time. 273 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,000 So I know this is a couple of other communities on the coast with. 274 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:24,000 Smaller or more isolated water systems and yeah, the more local knowledge that can be built up and an expertise that can be gained the better for everybody. 275 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,000 So thank you. 276 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,000 Very good. 277 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,000 Any other comments on the. 278 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,000 Motion. 279 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,000 There's a motion on the floor right. 280 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,000 Yeah. 281 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,000 Any more comments on that motion on the floor. 282 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,000 I don't see any so I'm going to call the question on favor. 283 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,000 Very good. 284 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,000 Thank you. 285 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:50,000 We're going to move on to item 4.4 the wastewater facilities. 286 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:56,000 Feasibility study results, which is a for information. 287 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,000 For the board and if anyone has any questions for staff. 288 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:09,000 We have assistant manager or rock as well as our GM Rosenbum here to answer any questions you may have. 289 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,000 Is there myself. 290 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,000 Oh, that's a good question. Thank you. 291 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,000 Vice chair. 292 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:22,000 Is there anything in this report that you would like to highlight for the board to illuminate us on this. 293 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:27,000 I'm not really presented. I drafted a little introduction speech here. 294 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,000 Go ahead. 295 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,000 Yeah. 296 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,000 The purpose of the report is to present results of the wastewater system. 297 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:39,000 Feasibility studies for the square bay collection system and the Jolly Roger secret code of wastewater treatment plants. 298 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:45,000 The studies identify high priority near term and long term actions for all tree systems. 299 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,000 No media action or community directions are required at this time. 300 00:24:49,000 --> 00:25:02,000 However, we will look to implement operational process changes identified in the studies and will consider presenting budget proposals for implementation of high priority recommendations as part of the 2027 budget process. 301 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:07,000 We're happy to answer any questions you have. 302 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,000 I'm going to go. 303 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,000 I think the majority of these are in area area. 304 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,000 Oh, and there's some in area B as well. 305 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,000 I'll start with area A go ahead director Lee. 306 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:31,000 I just wanted to say I really like the thought that we're actually making a community type solution rather than standalone little ones. 307 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,000 It seems like an awful good way to go to me. 308 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:41,000 So what did the command you on the proposal or at least the thoughts it isn't a proposal yet. 309 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,000 Excellent. Okay. 310 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:48,000 Thank you chair and yeah, no decisions to be made today. 311 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:56,000 Thank you for to staff for giving us the heads up and I'll circulate that with my community for the people affected so that they know what's happening. 312 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,000 What's coming up. 313 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:12,000 I have a question about the Jolly Roger secret code one and how I know that GM Hall is not here, but if we're talking about building a new one or doing upgrades like how how could this. 314 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,000 Kind of dovetail with the OCP. 315 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:24,000 And I don't know if Jim Rosenbin can speak on this or I should wait for Jim ought to be back, but. 316 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,000 Good question for the GM go ahead. 317 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,000 Thank you. 318 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,000 Thank you. 319 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:41,000 This kind of information is shared internally with our plan and department so that in any assessments of feasibility of growth areas, this kind of information is included. 320 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:53,000 I think it speaks to a larger discussion within the OCP context of the OCP about sewer system and wastewater systems and service incapacity of co-thera. 321 00:26:53,000 --> 00:27:06,000 So yeah, this is definitely information that is shared for them and that collaborative will we consider in any further steps with the OCP. 322 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,000 Thank you. 323 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,000 Very good. 324 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,000 I'm going to look to direct a McMahon for the next. 325 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:24,000 Yeah, I just wanted to see if you would expand a little on how this fits into our bigger asset management efforts with our wastewater systems because I remember about. 326 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:34,000 Four years ago we got a series of reports on each of the wastewater systems and then I assume that following on those reports, you know, 327 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:49,000 and we've been working on financial plans for each one of the financial approaches, but I assume that there is a there is a plan rolling out on how to deal with each of these. 328 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,000 Thank you. 329 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,000 Go ahead. 330 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,000 Oh, sorry. 331 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,000 She's assuming a general road. 332 00:27:55,000 --> 00:28:03,000 This is a direct response to those plans to those plans to develop because in those plans these plans. 333 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,000 In those plans, these two facilities, Georgia, Georgia, Georgia, Georgia, Georgia. 334 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,000 She could go for it and fight as an end of life in 2020. 335 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,000 So this is directly response to those plans. 336 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:22,000 What I should notice in these case, these two projects were funded from province or grant funding. 337 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:31,000 And that grant funding is currently not no longer available and it's to be confirmed by the province if it will at some point. 338 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,000 We open or not that program, but. 339 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,000 Thank you. 340 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,000 Thank you for the answer. 341 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,000 This is for information only. 342 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,000 And it's there in the public record for anyone to have a look at. 343 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,000 So I'm going to move along. 344 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,000 If we have no other questions. 345 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,000 Oh, go ahead and direct my command. 346 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,000 You have something else. 347 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,000 Sorry. 348 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,000 And I may not have read it closely enough. 349 00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:00,000 But is there a communications plan with the participants in these services? 350 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,000 Go ahead. 351 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,000 Thank you. 352 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,000 Thanks for the question. 353 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:11,000 Currently there's that has not been considered because we're reading early planning stage. 354 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:20,000 But I just heard the director say that she will initiate some conversation in the staff can support that. 355 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,000 We were more than happy to do so. 356 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,000 Okay. 357 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,000 That's efficient. 358 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,000 Good. 359 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,000 Thank you for your time. 360 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,000 We're going to move on now into our. 361 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,000 Sunshine Coast regional district extreme heat plan. 362 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:43,000 We have acting senior manager of emergency and protective services chief Michael. 363 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,000 As well as emergency manager coordinator. 364 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,000 Aaron Wilson to answer any questions. 365 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,000 This is for this is a request. 366 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,000 A request for decision. 367 00:29:55,000 --> 00:30:00,000 For the recommendations that appear on page 23. 368 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:10,000 And I was wondering if there are any questions for the staff members, or an introduction, or an introduction from the staff members. Thank you chair. Keep me on the straight narrow. 369 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,000 Good morning chair. 370 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:23,000 Today we're presenting the heat emergency response plan, which is a foundational document that supports the SERD's emergency management program. 371 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:29,000 While it's been completed for some time, we're bringing it forward now to make sure the work is officially recognized. 372 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:35,000 And we can share it with our first nations and government partners to support our coordinated regional preparedness. 373 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,000 So, have you to answer any questions? 374 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:47,000 Thank you. I have one question. On page 30 of the agenda before us, there is an internal plan distribution. 375 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:55,000 That neglects to include my area, area D. And I was wondering why that is. 376 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,000 Probably just a typo. 377 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:04,000 But I would imagine that we will include area D in the distribution of this plan. 378 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,000 Very thorough. Thank you. 379 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,000 Yes, we will. 380 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:14,000 Okay, good. That's just a repair to the plan that I'm looking for. 381 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,000 Go ahead. 382 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,000 Director Lee. 383 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,000 Thank you chair. 384 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:26,000 I was noting on the extreme heat plan that it's got a date of February 2024. 385 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,000 Was that when the plan was made? 386 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,000 Because we're calling it the final plan. 387 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,000 What's the 2024 date? 388 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,000 It's wondering how come it took so long to get here? 389 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,000 Thank you, Director Lee. I believe that was the beginnings of this plan. 390 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,000 Go ahead, Chief Michael. 391 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,000 Yeah. 392 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:55,000 So we had recognized that these plans have been in development for quite some time and completed. 393 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,000 But not formally brought through to the board. 394 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:04,000 There was a presentation by the consultant, but the actual plan itself was never brought forward. 395 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:11,000 Kind of tying up some loose ends and tidying things up by bringing you to hear today. 396 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,000 Director Lee, sir, you go ahead. 397 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,000 You have a question. 398 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:20,000 Just through you to staff. I'm assuming when they say they're providing the report to other levels of government. 399 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,000 Great. 400 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,000 We're all in this together with climate change. 401 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:29,000 Can I just ask that they if it goes to our staff, it also goes to C-Shot Council as well. 402 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,000 If that's part of the plan. 403 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:42,000 The concerns with heat leading to forest fires and or heat generally is as a concern of everyone's. 404 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:47,000 And one of the things our council has been doing is outreach is our community on the forest fire issues. 405 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,000 So if we can get the heat information. 406 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:55,000 An interesting, just a little side note chair is that when the last time. 407 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,000 Because heat comes at different times. 408 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:02,000 I remember a few years ago and I think everyone remembers that there was around is that the heat was in June. 409 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,000 I think it was the heat. 410 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:10,000 And the actual, I was at a soccer tournament in Gibson's and there was hundreds of kids there. 411 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,000 But the sprinklers were able to be on. 412 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,000 Which was the right time of year. I guess we still had enough water. 413 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,000 So the kids all use the sprinkler system to keep. 414 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,000 We had to I had to break the game. I was one of the roughs. 415 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:29,000 And organized to break the games quite every 10 minutes so that the kids could all run under the sprinklers because there's hundreds of kids there. 416 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:35,000 So that was a great heat reaction from the planners of that event. 417 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:43,000 But the unfortunate part is heat may come in August where I'm not sure if we can use that same cooling system in our public parks. 418 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,000 But it really worked for hundreds of kids. 419 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,000 Maybe in brothers as a counselor why just saying but tell that's great. 420 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:55,000 But that was such a good system that we hadn't placed that day but it was in June. 421 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,000 Thanks. 422 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,000 Thank you. 423 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:03,000 I was going to go to director Stanford and then back to director McMahon. 424 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,000 Thank you. 425 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,000 Thank you. 426 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,000 I'd just like to commend you on this report. 427 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:13,000 It's very thorough and it isn't just the focus on the heat issues. 428 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,000 It's the detail in the stats behind it. 429 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:34,000 One of the questions I had it I think it's briefly mentioned in an ecological point of view but specifically one of the concerns I've had is it seems obvious that when there is extreme heat event people do tend to go to the ocean. 430 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:43,000 And it also seems to be the time when we see higher equal accounts around the beaches and it actually can become a health hazard. 431 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:58,000 So I'd like to see that expanded a bit more and how the coordination between Vancouver health or coastal health and getting the beaches tested at the same time. 432 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:11,000 So we know that one of the avenues for heat support is to is a safe alternative. 433 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,000 Go ahead. 434 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:26,000 I think the best answer I've got for that one is that Vancouver coastal health is part of our emergency planning committee and that is something that I think we can take forward and discuss with them to make sure that we're in alignment. 435 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,000 Director McMahon. 436 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:33,000 Yes, I was just trying to find somewhere in here. 437 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:45,000 I thought there was a list of cooling centers but as was pointed out in here, we don't have very many air conditioned public spaces on the coast. 438 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:53,000 So is there a contemplated strategy for. 439 00:35:53,000 --> 00:36:00,000 For putting if you sponsor other cooling systems into more of our public buildings. 440 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:09,000 There is a chart on page 196 that talks about the cooling centers, but yeah, is there a strategy to include some of our centers. 441 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:16,000 I have a comment about that after chief Michael gives us a rundown on this. 442 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:27,000 I think the short answer would be not currently, but I think that we are trying to think about this when we are doing more of our buildings. 443 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:37,000 It's on the radar, but I don't know if a specific plan designated to have more heat pumps in our community buildings at this time. 444 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:50,000 Thank you, and I do want to point out it shows that there are no cooling centers within my area robbers Creek, but I believe that the community association has. 445 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:57,000 I have created the HVAC system at the Hall and it can act as an emergency cooling system. 446 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:02,000 So that I wonder if that should be included in this report. 447 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:07,000 I have a I had a hand up over here, don't go ahead. 448 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:11,000 The director from area F. 449 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:16,000 Thank you, she I think he's just getting at me. 450 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:27,000 Yeah, a lot of this particular plan is relying on neighbors connecting with neighbors because that seems to be the most vulnerable. 451 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,000 There's a lot of people live alone. 452 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:34,000 It's relying on that communication to the public. 453 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,000 So it's not just a plan. 454 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:45,000 There is there an active communication strategy to get the information out prior to the summer. 455 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:52,000 And remind people that this is more than some other emergency situations. 456 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,000 Neighborhoods checking on neighbors. 457 00:37:55,000 --> 00:38:00,000 So that's communication strategies where I'm coming from. 458 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,000 Go ahead, Chief. 459 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:08,000 I know we have a we have an emergency communications app that not everybody's aware of. 460 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,000 And I end the name escapes me. 461 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,000 Thank you go ahead. 462 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:26,000 Board, we do have a communications plan that we work with our communications team with every year. 463 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:34,000 And this heat planning is a part of that that we have a plan for those months leading up to the summer months. 464 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:45,000 And then we also have communications that are generally sent out to our community partners as well for them to send out to their clients. 465 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:50,000 So that is definitely part of our communications plan. 466 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,000 The following. 467 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,000 Go ahead. 468 00:38:52,000 --> 00:39:02,000 And just your reminder that the directors all have their own communications within their rural areas on their own on the ground strategies. 469 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:12,000 Please keep us in the loop as early as possible so we can get the messages out ourselves. 470 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,000 My pleasure, which is to have some input. 471 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,000 Yeah, I'm going to move the recommendations on page 23. 472 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,000 Very good. 473 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,000 I'm sorry. 474 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,000 Right. 475 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,000 So go ahead. 476 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,000 The director moves the. 477 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,000 Okay. 478 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,000 I'm looking for a second or you got a seconder. 479 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,000 Any other comments on the motion. 480 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,000 No, seeing none. 481 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,000 I'm going to call the question. 482 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,000 All in favor. 483 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,000 Very good. 484 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,000 Thank you for your time. 485 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,000 Let me get myself oriented again. 486 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,000 That was the extreme heat plan. 487 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:52,000 And we are now going to look at 4.6, which is hazard risk and vulnerability assessment final report. 488 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,000 This is for decision as well. 489 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:58,000 It begins on page 28 in our agenda. 490 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,000 And we have. 491 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:08,000 We have the same staff here to answer questions on this report, which is also a long time coming. 492 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:15,000 Can you tell me when the work was begun on this. 493 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,000 I think the work began three years ago. 494 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:25,000 We had a grant that helped us begin this project. 495 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,000 We had a lot of questions. 496 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,000 Excellent. 497 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,000 Thank you. 498 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,000 Looking to the board for any questions for staff. 499 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,000 I don't see any. 500 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,000 Go ahead. 501 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,000 Go ahead, director. 502 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,000 Make man. 503 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,000 You're making. 504 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,000 Some waves that you want to ask a question. 505 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,000 I'll give you some time. 506 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,000 Oh, sure. 507 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,000 Uh. 508 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,000 We didn't get the benefit of an introduction. 509 00:40:50,000 --> 00:41:00,000 But it was interesting that probably due to the quality of data available. 510 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:05,000 The report focuses on the district of seashell in the town of Gibson's. 511 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,000 And Gambier Island. 512 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,000 Why is Gambier Island so special? 513 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:14,000 Why does it get its whole section in this report? 514 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:24,000 Well, I'm not sure if Chief Michael will answer that or a director. 515 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,000 Stanford. 516 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,000 But go ahead, Chief Michael. 517 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:35,000 I would certainly defer to the area director on that question. 518 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:39,000 I wasn't heavily involved in this myself. 519 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:43,000 But I would imagine that the directors are corrected. 520 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,000 It's where the data was available. 521 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:52,000 But I will take some takeaways and check in with our emergency management staff and see. 522 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,000 Maybe why there was such a focus. 523 00:41:54,000 --> 00:42:00,000 My early thoughts would be perhaps that it is a bit more isolated and recognizing that it 524 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:07,000 have some unique hazards compared to the rest of the regional district. 525 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,000 Go ahead. 526 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,000 Director Stanford. 527 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,000 Go ahead. 528 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,000 Thank you. 529 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,000 I didn't really notice it was that much focused on the islands. 530 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:24,000 But you know, they do have a specific unique set of circumstances that make them more vulnerable. 531 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:32,000 On the other hand, they also tend to be more set up to handle emergencies just because they're of the awareness level. 532 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:42,000 So I think the previous hazard report was a little scant on any detail about the islands. 533 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,000 And that was commented on at the time the report. 534 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:50,000 So maybe this is just making up for loss detail, but it's well appreciated. 535 00:42:50,000 --> 00:43:01,000 And I do plan to use this excellent detailed report to continue my advocacy for the critical infrastructure to support these 536 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:07,000 Finally communities so that they can be accessed in an emergency. 537 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,000 And yeah, thank you. 538 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:15,000 It's such an interesting perspective, even though it does feel like it's all bad news. 539 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:24,000 But I look forward to my communities seeing it and reminding them that they always have to be prepared. 540 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,000 No matter what the circumstance is. 541 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,000 Very good. 542 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,000 Thank you. 543 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,000 Thank you, director. 544 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,000 Thank you. 545 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,000 Good. 546 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,000 Sure. 547 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:41,000 It's always fascinating reading about, you know, potential disasters. 548 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:47,000 And and I see that all of the stone did feature when it came to flooding because we. 549 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,000 There's reasons for that. 550 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:57,000 So a whole thing about the earthquakes I found sort of interesting because the risk level is called low likelihood. 551 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:07,000 And I understand that it's low likelihood in a short span of time, like in the next year or two or three. 552 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:17,000 But in fact, it's pretty much a guarantee that we're going to have earthquakes sooner or later we will have earthquakes and some of them will be quite large. 553 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:34,000 So I would say that it's a very high likelihood, but not maybe an imminent while we hope not imminent because we have almost forgotten about earthquakes in our focus on all the other disasters that are being coming at us. 554 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:45,000 So yeah, I I just like to remind myself and perhaps other people too that we still have to think about earthquakes. 555 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:50,000 Any any thoughts. 556 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,000 Go ahead chief. 557 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,000 Yeah, I've got some perspective on this for sure. 558 00:44:55,000 --> 00:45:00,000 And I think our last version, I think back in 2005, 2008. 559 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:19,000 It was really heavily focused on earthquakes, and this came about through the community consultation piece where there were different hazards identified as perhaps the more consequential, drought being one that I would highlight given the time that the engagement was happening. 560 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:38,000 So, although I agree, the consequence of an earthquake would be significant. The likelihood in the criteria, you know, a one in 50 year, perhaps or longer, would not have the likelihood rated so high. 561 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:48,000 So, I think this gives us a more general focus on all the other hazards and not specifically focused, which I believe to be a good thing. 562 00:45:48,000 --> 00:46:03,000 But this is, this is the exercise, right, the hazard risk vulnerability assessment and demonstrating more local unique and alternate hazards that we might not be top of mind for us. 563 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:12,000 Thank you. Yeah. Director Stamford. And then I'll look to this side of the table if anyone has any questions. 564 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:31,000 Just an added special interest group that I always want to make sure is is brought forward is the sunshine coast is somewhat unique in the number of children's camps and that that always needs to be considered when developing response plans. 565 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:39,000 They have different requirements and at any time we need to coordinate with the camps. 566 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:52,000 I think it's a good thing to bring them into emergency planning. They are also probably better set up than many of the neighborhoods around them and they can be used as a resource as a different way of looking at them. 567 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:56,000 So, it's worth keeping that in mind. 568 00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:03,000 Thank you. I'm looking over to Director Inkster. You have some questions? Yeah, thanks. 569 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:13,000 I'm glad that others have brought up the fact that we have a couple of events that were sadly due for. 570 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,000 And that's fire that I'd go on and on about. 571 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:25,000 And earthquakes, that's true. I mean, the earthquake that they're talking, I mean, this has been mentioned before, but I'm glad that emergency responses thinking about it. 572 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:32,000 Because when that happens, they say it's going to be a big one. I think we remember this board, what was it a year ago in that one hit. 573 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:37,000 That was really weird. I ran out to the middle of the street to see if something hit something. 574 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:43,000 I think some of us did that and then realized it was an earthquake when the neighbors all ran outside and said, you know, it's just an earthquake. 575 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:48,000 So that's going to be really freaking people out when that that finally comes. 576 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:56,000 So I'm glad that there's some thought to it, although it may never happen. It might even not even happen in my kids' lifetimes, but we need to be. 577 00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:03,000 Because it's going to knock out bridges, electricity, water systems, if it's as big as other areas of hit. 578 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:16,000 The other thing I think about with this report chairs that the reports are helpful and we're being prepared because government has reacted to citizens needs to be prepared 579 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:26,000 and a calamity. But until something happens, we do not know how good we're going to be at this. 580 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:31,000 That's the interesting part about this. These are all helpful reports. 581 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:44,000 But until something happens even on a small scale would almost be helpful because we would tell the emergency people and all the fire chiefs, police chiefs, how prepared we are when they react to a small event. 582 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,000 I beg to differ with the director. 583 00:48:47,000 --> 00:49:10,000 Because I first had an experience as to the training regime and that the our local fire departments go through is quite extensive and they do train for all types of incidents, including earthquakes and floods and wildfires. 584 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:28,000 And so it is one of the things I like about our fire professionals is that they are very good at thinking outside the box and coming up with solutions to the problems that are faced that they face. 585 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:46,000 But that's fair chair. I mean they, but we will we will see what happens when yeah because because when you're if you're emergency personnel and you have to and it happens it happens yeah and then you have to decide is my family safe. 586 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:51,000 And then I'm you know, because that's going on because this is just the and they're well trained we know they are. 587 00:49:51,000 --> 00:50:00,000 And and we there's a training agency shelter and a lot of them come there and I've talked to the chief chief Michael about this and others about the training it's really good. 588 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:06,000 But when something happens and you you're about to go to an event and you have to decide where my kids. 589 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,000 Where's my family or they safe and then you got to go that way. 590 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,000 That's where the rubber hits the road. 591 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,000 Thanks. 592 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,000 Yeah. 593 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,000 I understand we're all humans. 594 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,000 Go ahead. 595 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,000 Yeah. 596 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,000 No, it has no. 597 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:24,000 I want to I want to point out mostly what I'm hearing right now is really strong support. 598 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,000 So for this meeting this. 599 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:32,000 This plan and we're hearing we hear from the community all the time like people people. 600 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,000 Desiring emergency plans. 601 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,000 So I strongly supported to and I want to move it. 602 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:44,000 I'm sorry I have a second or so that's the recommendations as the appear on page 228. 603 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,000 In our agenda. 604 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,000 Go ahead. 605 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,000 Director McMahon. 606 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,000 Two quick things. 607 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:56,000 I believe the hospital foundation is holding an event about emergencies coming up soon. 608 00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:05,000 I complain sometimes about outside consultants coming in and dropping templates on us when they're writing reports for the regional district. 609 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:11,000 But I think this is an example of a place where a template really makes a lot of sense. 610 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:18,000 Because jurisdictions right across the province should be following a similar, you know, 611 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:23,000 organization set of steps template whatever. 612 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,000 Because it just makes sense. 613 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:34,000 So I'm really glad we've got this here and and you know it will be updated and improve it upon over coming years. 614 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,000 So thank you. 615 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:40,000 Yeah, this is a good bit of bedside reading for emergency response personnel as well. 616 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,000 As well as the general public. 617 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:48,000 So any other questions on the motion on the floor. 618 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,000 Seeing no, I'm going to call the question all in favor. 619 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,000 Very good. 620 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:58,000 Thank you for your time. 621 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:09,000 We shall move on to the 60 page that has to deal with the director's renumeration review. 622 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:21,000 There's a direct, yes, it would you would there are CAO or our corporate officer wish to introduce this for us. 623 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,000 Thank you chair. 624 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:31,000 So it is a requirement of the board's policy to do a undertaker director's remuneration review prior to the subsequent election. 625 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:36,000 And so we're just presenting some options here on some ways to proceed with that. 626 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,000 So these are not exhaustive. There could be other options. 627 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,000 But happy to have the discussion. 628 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,000 Thank you. 629 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,000 Okay. 630 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,000 Sorry. 631 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,000 Director McMahon, then Director White. 632 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,000 Thank you. 633 00:52:53,000 --> 00:53:05,000 We had a very thorough remuneration review around about four years ago and that was the first one for many, many years. 634 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:16,000 I think, because the system that was in place before that showed every sign of having been cobbled together and sort of patched. 635 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:29,000 But, you know, I think that the review was a good review and that I haven't heard any complaints from any other directors about the remuneration. 636 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,000 I think it's a minor consideration. 637 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:41,000 But, so I'm going to say I would, I would be happy with option two or even option three, which is not to do remuneration review this term. 638 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,000 And I'm interested to hear from the other directors. 639 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,000 Thank you. 640 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,000 Director White, you were in it. 641 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:52,000 I'm having a deja vu here because I thought this already came to us this term, even. 642 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:56,000 And we, I said the very same thing and said let's do this internally. 643 00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:06,000 But now we're getting, it's back and there's a recommendation to do it externally and I didn't, I looked, I poured through the staff report trying to find out where. 644 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:13,000 Any mention of was, of the last time this came to us and I couldn't find it so. 645 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:20,000 Sometimes in the last few months this came to us already and I thought we said let's do this internally. 646 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:25,000 Is the director having a deja vu or is this actually has happened. 647 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:31,000 So on page four of the staff report, I think it's page four twenty seven of the agenda. 648 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:36,000 The recommendations that staff have from that discussion. 649 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:44,000 Was that staff bring back a report on options regarding revisions of the terms of reference, including background information. 650 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:52,000 So I happy to take any clarification on that particular review. 651 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:57,000 I would also say that was also my recollection. 652 00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:02,000 But we couldn't find the specifics to that so. 653 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:12,000 I think part of this particular report is to, I think solidify that close that loop and make sure we're all in the same page. 654 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:21,000 Director Aster, yeah, so that what we're talking about happens temporary teeth according to this record, but you go ahead director Aster. 655 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:32,000 Yeah, what we'll see I guess we just got to be if we do anything internally we just have to be transparent with terms of reference and decision making. 656 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:38,000 What goes into that as we do it because I think arguments can be made for going in particular directions. 657 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:43,000 A couple of things in terms of the information presented to us. 658 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,000 Director Bands as you hasn't heard many complaints. 659 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:58,000 I think just like director Bands with the bridges sometimes were a little quiet until certain point I've complained about the renumation. 660 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,000 Bylaw that was that came in last time to other directors. 661 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,000 There's certain things that I would like to discuss. 662 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:10,000 And and they've heard that so that can happen if we have that venue. 663 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:24,000 One of the things that I just would like to say philosophically though is based on the earlier recommendations of a few years ago is that I didn't understand why there was a difference in municipal versus regional. 664 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,000 I don't think there should be tears for directors. 665 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:37,000 I think that if anything the municipal moves up with the world directors because there was there was an argument made by some that they do a lot of work and they do a lot of consistency work. 666 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:47,000 Then you don't have tears you just go up with them and that's the change that I wouldn't have made so I would have recognized. 667 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:55,000 The fact that there has been a change in workload and that they have to do a lot of their own newsletters and work but then the municipal's don't stay they go with them. 668 00:56:55,000 --> 00:57:06,000 So that's that's one of my one of my things that I wouldn't have done but it came from a recommendation the board accepted it but you don't always have to take their recommendations you can make your own decisions and changes. 669 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:10,000 So that's that's just my initial thought thanks. 670 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,000 Okay director wait. 671 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,000 Yes I was who put in. 672 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:21,000 Yeah I guess it's unclear about how we'll go forward I mean if we're going to make the decision here as a board and debate things here as a board but I mean I can. 673 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:30,000 I do I was I am familiar with the rationale that happened last time and it was partly to align with every other regional district in the province virtually. 674 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:54,000 Which does have a difference between a recognition that that a rural directors do have a lot more to do with with a lot more in in this context anyway because municipalities are doing their planning and everything else would be other tables so that's it was to align with other districts and it was it's thoroughly. 675 00:57:54,000 --> 00:58:02,000 We had a conversation before but I have sorry I have to say it is thoroughly addressed in the report so. 676 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:15,000 It's something to that that can be read in the report that came out a few years ago but anyway that I feel like that's kind of a side track because I don't know that's a discussion to have. 677 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:23,000 an external committee or an internal committee or a no committee maybe that we know committee but that's probably where we should be focusing our. 678 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,000 Conversation right now to move things forward. 679 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:32,000 All right I've got a little speakers list I'm going to go directly to the top director. 680 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:37,000 Thank you chair. 681 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:46,000 It's an interesting point director man raised about you know option two option three I think it doesn't. 682 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:56,000 It's not an extensive cost and it's not a great amount of staff time my understanding to do an update. 683 00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:07,000 Along the way so I'm not I'm not of all opposed to doing an independent review I think one of the very last things we should be doing as directors is. 684 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:14,000 You know deciding or reviewing our own compensation you know whether it's in a public meeting or not. 685 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:21,000 I actually I know that our policy for the remuneration review does speak to. 686 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:33,000 Implementation for the following term but if we go to move the recommendations on page four 24 I'm not there yet but if we go to move them. 687 00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:41,000 I would hope that somebody would add to the end of recommendation three to be implemented after the twenty twenty six local election. 688 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:51,000 I know it's already in the policy but you know this is one of those issues were optics matter and I think building it right into the recommendation means that people can't. 689 00:59:51,000 --> 01:00:00,000 You know make stuff up about us voting on our own pay raises and so those just mountain thoughts I am interested to hear whether. 690 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:13,000 People think we should be doing it internally or externally. I'm in favor of externally. Thank you. Thank you for that input. I was going to direct your, like, man. 691 01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:23,000 I just thought to spark the conversation. We'll further that I would try moving option three, which is to not undertake a review of director room. 692 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,000 Reuneration this term. Oh. 693 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,000 Does anybody want a second? 694 01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:38,000 All right. Director, Mr. and then Director wait. 695 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,000 So, chair. 696 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:44,000 Emotions on the floor. Do you want me to speak to that? Do you want to speak to the previous one? 697 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:45,000 Yep. 698 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,000 Yep. Okay. 699 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:48,000 Okay. 700 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:55,000 So, I do think that reneumeration should be reviewed regularly. 701 01:00:55,000 --> 01:01:14,000 And one of the reasons I would suggest that whether whatever decision you make is that we are talking this board quite often about accessibility to whatever that means including elected office, but also housing issues on the Sunshine Coast. 702 01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:26,000 And consequently, because of those, the costs associated with housing, et cetera, cost of living, we should be reviewing things more robustly now than we used to many years ago. 703 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:31,000 When I was first elected, we made $3,500 a year in council and sea shell. 704 01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:32,000 Can you imagine? 705 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,000 Yeah. I think it no 38. 706 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,000 So, it might be how long I've served. 707 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:44,000 I'm taking a different tack than what Director wait just said into my ear, but it's how long I've served. 708 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:52,000 And so, but there's been a huge change. And that's in recognition of the fact that you're opening it up to more people. 709 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:56,000 You're potentially opening it up to people, families, younger people. 710 01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,000 There's some examples of that at this table. 711 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:08,000 And you're also in reviews looking at the change in the sad change in the housing costs on the Sunshine Coast and in British Columbia. 712 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:14,000 So, that's in speaking to that motion, and I was going to say something about the other one, but it's not on the floor right now. 713 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:19,000 Thanks, Chair. 714 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:33,000 I said, there's housing costs and there's work load and area B lost a director because she couldn't find a house because she couldn't afford to find a house on the Sunshine Coast. 715 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:37,000 And so, she had to move. And so, that was that was a reality. 716 01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,000 Director wait, go ahead. 717 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:48,000 On the motion, I'm kind of leaning towards supporting it because I'm not sure. 718 01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:54,000 I'm not really convinced that doing another external reviews, a good idea. 719 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,000 It did take a lot of staff work. 720 01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,000 I was there. I could confirm that. 721 01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:02,000 There were two, and it's in the report, two. 722 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:12,000 There were two staff members included in the CIO, which is a big commitment of CIOs having a lot of other things to do. 723 01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:20,000 I spent quite a bit of time on this when I was on the external committee when I was external. 724 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:24,000 So, yeah, I'm concerned about that thought. 725 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:31,000 And you also can't really, I mean, I'm on another one with director Rinkster right now at the School District. 726 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:39,000 You can't necessarily, if you do an external committee, you can't necessarily control how much staff time it's going to take because that external committee may come in and say, 727 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:42,000 like, we need a ton of information, which they tend to need. 728 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:51,000 They'll need staff to collect a lot of information from across BC and perhaps other information too. 729 01:03:51,000 --> 01:04:08,000 I mean, I also say, my, the reason I was leaning towards internal and also supportive of director McMahon's earlier statements about this extensive report and work that was done last time is 730 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:16,000 I mean, I know there's a lot of stuff in there that that I don't know if it was explored by the board because I think it would hold winning camera. 731 01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:29,000 So, talk about transparency, but I, there were, there were recommendations in there like there was a, there was a headline, but like the very first recommendation of that report from last time was, 732 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:43,000 and I know this is coming up in the School District discussion too is immediately the very first thing the external people say is, well, we need some kind of job description, we we need to know what, what, what your actual role is. 733 01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:57,000 So that's what the external people said, especially not me because I was in a former director, but the other two HR professionals said, that's, that's the biggest thing we need and I'm not aware that that's been done yet. 734 01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:12,000 Okay, so that there has been there was one okay, okay, so, but there are other recommendations in there that I think the board may want to transparently review. 735 01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:24,000 Um, because I'm not sure that was done so that's that's something and that might be the first thing the an external committee says is like, well, what about all this, these recommendations for me last time. 736 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:25,000 So. 737 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:28,000 Thank you, I'm going to go directly. 738 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,000 We wasn't spoken on this yet. 739 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:37,000 And thank you, Chair, it was kind of deep lost in deep thought over here and I missed what was the motion that was made. 740 01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:41,000 I would recommend that we hear that three, which was to that too. 741 01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:47,000 Not do a review and. 742 01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:56,000 That the review of the director's renewation would be referred to the next board term after the 2026 election. 743 01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,000 Is that it? Yes. 744 01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,000 So it's. 745 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:09,000 Go ahead, director, I want to hear what you have to say. 746 01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:15,000 We did it in 2020, I believe, and it's now 2026. 747 01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:18,000 That's the second board that's. 748 01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:21,000 I've been in place. 749 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:25,000 I'm not sure that. 750 01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:35,000 We're doing the next board of paper by saying, oh, we're leaving it to you because they really can't do a renumeration review of their own on themselves. 751 01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:45,000 So I think we're really if we go with number three, we're saying that's not going to be a renumeration review until 2030. 752 01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:48,000 A four more years after this one. 753 01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,000 That's quite a while. 754 01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:57,000 So that's something that we need to think about before we all get together and vote here. 755 01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:02,000 Director, Director. 756 01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:03,000 Yeah, I'm. 757 01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:04,000 I'm going to be. 758 01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,000 I'm going to be supporting a review. 759 01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:12,000 I don't think that we shouldn't support it based on the choices we may in future make after this after this motion. 760 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:16,000 Whether it be external or external, I'm not going to make my decision based on that. 761 01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:25,000 We can have that discussion at that point as director Lee has said it could be 10 11 12 years based on a review that takes a while. 762 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:36,000 The board then board won't decide necessarily that new board in 220 in 2030 right away to do that unless staff brings it to them, but unless they're reelected, they may not know to do that. 763 01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:39,000 So that may take a couple of years for talking 12 years. 764 01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:47,000 Potentially 11 to 12 years before a review is done when costs of living continue to rise. 765 01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:52,000 So I'll be supporting as I do with always encouraging staff to bring forward. 766 01:07:53,000 --> 01:08:04,000 Any other fees and charges reviews DCC reviews for us to make sure that were on top of our costs of doing government things. 767 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:07,000 Director McMahon you had some input. 768 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:12,000 Yes, I'm amazed at how the timeline keeps expanding here. 769 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:21,000 But talking of timelines is already February and this last remuneration review I don't know how long it took. 770 01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:32,000 Remember right now, but it was a fairly lengthy process to try and cram a full scale remuneration review in before the end of this term, I think would be very difficult. 771 01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:41,000 And as we all know, we have a lot on our plates for the work plan for staff for everybody else. 772 01:08:41,000 --> 01:09:02,000 I think this should be booted to the next term, but with possibly with a recommendation that they start earlier than this right not like not start six months before the end of the term but two years before the end of the term to make sure that there's time to get it done properly. 773 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:03,000 Thank you. 774 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:04,000 Thank you. 775 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,000 I'm going to go to Dr. Gabias. 776 01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:13,000 Yeah, thank you and understanding that we're the the review would not necessarily be for us. 777 01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,000 It would be for the future board. 778 01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:19,000 I'm more inclined to want to have a review. 779 01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:33,000 But the last one that was done was really strong really through and I seem to remember that what we had agreed on is that we just want like a late just a little you know like. 780 01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:42,000 So I don't think it would be as doesn't sound like it would be as lengthy as the last one. 781 01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:50,000 So how do we like what kind of what resources are we willing to put towards that. 782 01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:55,000 I think just a light you know upkeep of what we currently have would be enough. 783 01:09:55,000 --> 01:10:01,000 I think it's the fair thing to do for the next board and not kick it down to you know in four years. 784 01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:11,000 So I don't know how that would be phrased differently than what it is now, but yeah, I'm not in support of not having one. 785 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,000 Go ahead see you. 786 01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:19,000 I believe we need to clearly understand what a light review would so scope of work. 787 01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:27,000 So I think that would then dictate what the amount of effort would be needed for something like that to estimate it. 788 01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:38,000 So would it be just comparing certain elements the report has several recommendations and we've also included background as to what was implemented. 789 01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:46,000 So you know we'd have to understand what it was that this particular board would want us to review. 790 01:10:47,000 --> 01:11:02,000 Is already built in that CPIs automatically included so that's applied so what elements would you want either an internal external whatever review to undertake. 791 01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:06,000 In accordance to what the recommendations that were. 792 01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:15,000 Implemented versus those that may have not been implemented or those that you might want to amend what's been implemented. 793 01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:22,000 So there's a lot of flavors to it so I think it's difficult to estimate without a specific scope work. 794 01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:37,000 There are a lot of flavors to it my my initial thoughts on this is that there was a review that had certain criteria that were gone through and that you were used to adjust the. 795 01:11:37,000 --> 01:12:05,000 Renumeration has there been any changes within that criteria that would substantially affect the outcome of the of the renumeration so using the using the initial report and going over it and seeing if it all still applies or if there are some substantive changes to the criteria that would be I consider a light review. 796 01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:18,000 And are there any other questions on this. 797 01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:36,000 And then in the motion is to delay is to delay this and it's not do the review and to put it to the next council board. 798 01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:46,000 I'll call the question all in favor one two three four four all as opposed. 799 01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,000 To four. 800 01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:51,000 Okay, so that's defeated in a tie. 801 01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:56,000 Okay, so now we had never starting over again. 802 01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:59,000 One and two is. 803 01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:05,000 Is there any motions that anyone else would like to put forward. 804 01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:08,000 Do I think man you have your hand go ahead. 805 01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:17,000 Not necessarily motion it's just I kind of hear from the conversation that we may be leaning towards option two. 806 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:32,000 But if we do that as the CAO pointed out we need to set some parameters and I'm a little concerned about trying to wing it on the fly right now to come up with these parameters. 807 01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:38,000 So if the board wants a light review we. 808 01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:45,000 Perhaps we could kick it to a committee to come up with some parameters on what a light review would be. 809 01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:55,000 And then come back with with some recommendations because otherwise I think we're going to spin our wheels here for quite some time. 810 01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,000 I understand. 811 01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:01,000 I'm not sure you're ready, but I'm going to go to director Stanford. 812 01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:07,000 I'm concerned with that is committee sometimes is another month down the line and we're even tighter. 813 01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:11,000 Someone if we can do something. 814 01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:18,000 A little closer in so I'm just trying to think of how to speed this long. 815 01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:21,000 Good question director wait. 816 01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:25,000 I'm having deja vu again because I feel like this is kind of what we talked about last time. 817 01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:35,000 Now we're like I don't know when we're in number of months since that time and haven't moved forward on it so. 818 01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:41,000 I don't want to do the same thing and then we're just getting into next term so. 819 01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:48,000 I mean I think we need to give staff some clear direction this time about. 820 01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:53,000 I thought last time we talked about an internal board committee. 821 01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:57,000 And look the board has to make the final vote at the end. 822 01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:01,000 So whether it's from an external committee or a board. 823 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:09,000 It's not like the board has only the board can approve budget, and it's the same with any government in the world. 824 01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:18,000 So, I think there's not a lot of getting away from the fact that the board needs to make the final decision. 825 01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:27,000 And I thought we talked about an internal committee of the board before it doesn't need to be a committee of the whole, which we always do. 826 01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:38,000 It can just be a few members to keep it nimble and with some, with some, some lot of staff report support. 827 01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:41,000 And just get it done. 828 01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:44,000 I mean, I think that's what the board's morning to do so. 829 01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:52,000 That sounds like a recommendation, but I'm going to wait on that and go to Director Inster for his input. 830 01:15:52,000 --> 01:16:00,000 Yeah, thanks. I was waiting for a recommendation for Director White, because he spoke into that a couple of times saying internally like that model. 831 01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:03,000 If that gets seconded, then maybe we could talk about that and vote on it. 832 01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:07,000 In order to move this forward, I'm okay with that. 833 01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:13,000 But I think internal means the regional district board is making the decision, but that the meeting is public. 834 01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:16,000 That's what I'm thinking, that the internal means. 835 01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:22,000 That's that's when I'm hopeful that it is. I'm supportive of that. 836 01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:28,000 And one question through you to to the CAO. 837 01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:34,000 And I don't think CAO has this information, but she might and I don't remember from the budget documents. 838 01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:43,000 Do we know what percentage of our spending at the regional district goes to the goes to board, renumeration and expenses? 839 01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:44,000 It's very small. 840 01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,000 Do we have that? 841 01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,000 CAO, do you read the evidence? 842 01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:49,000 Sure. 843 01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:51,000 Sure, but I'm asking it now. 844 01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:54,000 Yeah, they might not, but they might not. 845 01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,000 And I can certainly find that. 846 01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:59,000 It's not, it's not, it's not actually trivia. 847 01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:03,000 It's really important to tell the public if we're going to go do these discussions that it's. 848 01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:12,000 We need to let the public know that it's not going to have a huge effect on taxation for the board to talk about these things. 849 01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:24,000 So it's not trivial to me, but anyway, if we're going to get the recommendation, if you want to push your recommendation direct to what you're interested, then I wait for that. 850 01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,000 You pose a question to the CAO. 851 01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:38,000 I'm going to ask the CAO has an answer. I guess it would be a section of their general government in the budget. 852 01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:40,000 Quiet, please. 853 01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:56,000 Sorry. 854 01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:57,000 That's why. 855 01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:00,000 That's why you couldn't hear me. Sorry for those online. 856 01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,000 So it's not just general government. 857 01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,000 It is included as well. 858 01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,000 There's some top apps for the rural directors. 859 01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:11,000 So we would have to do a review of what those are both for remuneration. 860 01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:14,000 And it also includes travel expenses. 861 01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:21,000 And so for 2026, we also did an increase for some of the various educational components. 862 01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:27,000 So we'd have to look at what we are considering as far as what we consider total compensation for the board. 863 01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:33,000 But I get, I get that, the ask and we can provide that to the committee if that's so passes. 864 01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:36,000 As a percentage of our entire budget. 865 01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:38,000 Okay. 866 01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,000 Director Toth, go ahead. 867 01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:41,000 Thank you. 868 01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:47,000 I think what Director White is getting at is actually the recommendations that are suggested here. 869 01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:52,000 Beneath option to near the bottom of page 428. 870 01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:59,000 I missed him when I read the report the first time, because I just saw the recommendation and then moved on to option 3. 871 01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:06,000 But there's actually a fairly lengthy option here that looks at a internal review. 872 01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:13,000 Working group comprised of one to two directors plus a couple members of staff. 873 01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:14,000 So moved. 874 01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:15,000 Is that it now? 875 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:16,000 Yep. 876 01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:17,000 Very good. 877 01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:18,000 So. 878 01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,000 Do I want to just read it out? 879 01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,000 I can read it out. 880 01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:27,000 The working group comprised of directors and staff be established to conduct an internal review of 881 01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:31,000 the director's reneumeration allowances expense reimbursements and benefits. 882 01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:36,000 And that the board appoint one to two directors to the working group. 883 01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:41,000 And further that the chief administrative officer appoint one to two staff to the working group. 884 01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:53,000 And further that the report be brought back before 2, 4, 20, 26 with recommendations for directors reneumeration allowances expense reimbursements and benefits. 885 01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:59,000 Now q4 is that after the election. 886 01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,000 So I would like to. 887 01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:03,000 It says before q4. 888 01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:07,000 Oh, it does say before q4 so that that's going to put it before the election. 889 01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:08,000 Okay. 890 01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:09,000 And we have a seconder. 891 01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:10,000 Yeah. 892 01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:11,000 I'm chair. 893 01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:14,000 We've read that. 894 01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,000 We know what we're supporting. 895 01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:19,000 Just move it forward as I've said four times today. 896 01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:22,000 I will support that even though I looked at another model. 897 01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:23,000 I'll support that. 898 01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:26,000 I'd like to see two at least of directors on that. 899 01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:31,000 And I would like there to be some transparency as I've indicated. 900 01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:32,000 Thanks. 901 01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,000 So we're looking for. 902 01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,000 Public reports. 903 01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:37,000 Absolutely. 904 01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:38,000 Director wait. 905 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:41,000 I'll go question on this with would this be something. 906 01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:45,000 The is this under the undertaking of the chair. 907 01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:51,000 When we say that the board appoint is that the chair will go and appoint these directors or is it something that. 908 01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:58,000 Staff needs us to do as part of the motion. 909 01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:01,000 We're going to board this after you know with this. 910 01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:02,000 And I would know. 911 01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:03,000 Not yet. 912 01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:05,000 Either or. 913 01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:07,000 The committee can elect right now. 914 01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:12,000 You can do it at the board or you can do it as subsequent time. 915 01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:15,000 Very good. 916 01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:18,000 How would you guys like to proceed? 917 01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,000 Okay. 918 01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:25,000 We will wait to appoint people when we get to the board. 919 01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:28,000 Which will be two weeks from today. 920 01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:29,000 Yes. 921 01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:33,000 Well, it can be moved can it be moved to this afternoon? 922 01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,000 I'm adding that. 923 01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:37,000 We can move it to this afternoon. 924 01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:38,000 Very good. 925 01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,000 Our corporate officers nodding in agreement. 926 01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:42,000 So that's what's going to happen. 927 01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:44,000 So we do have a motion on the floor. 928 01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:46,000 Yeah. 929 01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:48,000 That's a good referee move. 930 01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:49,000 Okay. 931 01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:50,000 Go ahead. 932 01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:55,000 Your next board if it if you didn't pass it today wouldn't be until the 26th of March. 933 01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:56,000 Whoa. Yes. 934 01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:59,000 Okay. So now we're never okay. 935 01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:00,000 Yeah. 936 01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:04,000 We're going to refer this to board this afternoon. 937 01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:08,000 And any other comments or questions on this. 938 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,000 Oh, director McMahon. 939 01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:15,000 I would actually be fine with the chair pointing members to the committee. 940 01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:16,000 But whatever. 941 01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:19,000 Well, sorted out between now and this afternoon. 942 01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:20,000 That's true. 943 01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:21,000 Excellent. 944 01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:22,000 Okay. Good. 945 01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,000 I'm going to call the question. 946 01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:25,000 All in favor. 947 01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:26,000 There we go. 948 01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:27,000 It's a unanimous. 949 01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,000 Thank you very much. 950 01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:30,000 Ladies and gentlemen. 951 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:33,000 Now we're going to move on to four point eight. 952 01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,000 Let's see what we've got left. 953 01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:39,000 I'm going to wait until we go into in camera before I call for brick. 954 01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:44,000 So we're going to start 4.8, which is for information long term debt update. 955 01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:49,000 And we have manager Taylor to give us an introduction into this. 956 01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:52,000 Would you like to introduce this for us? 957 01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:53,000 Sure. 958 01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:55,000 Thank you. 959 01:22:55,000 --> 01:23:02,000 So the report report before use is intended to provide an update on the SAD's current and future debt obligations. 960 01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:08,000 At the conclusion around to total remaining SAD issued debt total 17.1 million. 961 01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:12,000 Well, approved on issued debt total 45.4 million. 962 01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:17,000 Not accounted for in these figures are future projects such as the vertical expansion project, 963 01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:23,000 which is estimated for require an additional 32.3 million in long term borrowing, 964 01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:27,000 following the review and approval of the solid waste management plan. 965 01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:34,000 Summary of the SAD's current and proposed debt obligations can be found in attachment A and staff are available. 966 01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:37,000 Should you have any questions? 967 01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,000 Thank you for that introduction. 968 01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:44,000 I am going to look to make Director McMahon. 969 01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:47,000 All right. 970 01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:49,000 Go ahead, Director McMahon. 971 01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:50,000 Yes. 972 01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:53,000 I really appreciate this report. 973 01:23:53,000 --> 01:24:03,000 This is what has been worrying me for a long time is that we are debt that we are taking on for projects that are completely necessary. 974 01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:07,000 It is going to be very, very considerable. 975 01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:10,000 And I have two questions. 976 01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:14,000 I'll start with the question of a policy. 977 01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:25,000 We do not have a debt servicing ratio policy. 978 01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:29,000 And it is now the time to look for one. 979 01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:32,000 Our CAO has an answer to that question. 980 01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:33,000 Go ahead. 981 01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:37,000 The board does have a debt management policy. 982 01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:42,000 In that particular policy, although the regional district or regional districts in generally, 983 01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:54,000 do not have what's reflected with like member municipal debt servicing limits as a percentage of their revenue. 984 01:24:54,000 --> 01:25:02,000 The regional districts don't have to do that, and that's partly because we are also the flow through for member municipal debt. 985 01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:10,000 And so the policy, however, does state that the regional district will try to mirror that particular percentage. 986 01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:22,000 And so when we take on additional debt and when we are presenting debt that the regional district is going to be taking on including what member municipal debt comes on. 987 01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:28,000 We do provide that percentage as to where the regional district is in that particular percentage. 988 01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:47,000 So I think that's something that this particular report can start to integrate a new section into the report is where we at cumulatively and make sure we have a good distinction between regional district debt. 989 01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:55,000 I don't remember municipal debt because those would be very different amounts. 990 01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:57,000 Go ahead, director. 991 01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:58,000 Thanks chair. 992 01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:03,000 I have a lot of always a lot of questions and comments on debt. 993 01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:08,000 I'm glad to hear director Rick Mann asks that portionality question. 994 01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:13,000 In this case, it's important to note C-shelts through the regional district. 995 01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:22,000 Now, I can't guarantee to this board although it's not that board that will be paying it, but it will be the two members of this table from C-shelts that are amount may go up. 996 01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:29,000 But it's very low right now and I'm very proud of that for C-shelts because we just had two debts come off. 997 01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:36,000 But the CEO is alluded to our capacity. 998 01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:53,000 And I always ask this question, what I would like to know is if in fact what it is going forward, we all know that the amount that people earn will go up, but not necessarily as quick as our debt to 2030 to be able to service that. 999 01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:57,000 But what I would like to see if possible and make it and I know they can do it. 1000 01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:01,000 It's just it's just added work, maybe staff has a system of formula. 1001 01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:11,000 Is to find out what percentage going forward of our regional taxes collected will go to debt going forward. 1002 01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:13,000 Pardon? 1003 01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:14,000 Sure. 1004 01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,000 Both. 1005 01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:23,000 And that's what I want to see going forward percentage of our taxes going forward going towards debt. 1006 01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:36,000 And I would love to see, I would love to see, let's say a pie chart that shows going forward how much goes to debt and how much goes to the provision of existing services. 1007 01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:40,000 That's helpful information for me. 1008 01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:50,000 And the debt servicing amount that the CEO alluded to municipalities as has been indicated with my previous questions are governed differently. 1009 01:27:50,000 --> 01:28:01,000 But it would be good to know what the regional district would take off the 13 million that goes to the municipalities and look at the regional district and see what our service ceiling is. 1010 01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:02,000 Thanks. 1011 01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:06,000 Okay, our CFO is in the room. 1012 01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:11,000 I was wondering if you could answer that question. 1013 01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:13,000 Not specifically answering the questions. 1014 01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:15,000 I just want to. 1015 01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:30,000 Staff are making some notes so we can take a look at how we can integrate that into this reporting because I think we're changing how we report the debt as we take on some more debt in those financial considerations financial sustainability considerations. 1016 01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:45,000 So one of the things we will also have to review which is what's so different with the regional district is it's not the same as a municipal setting in the sense where the majority of the same folks are paying for the debt. 1017 01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:57,000 So even though we can present those particular financial indicators because those are traditional financial indicators in any type of financial analysis on your health of your organization. 1018 01:28:57,000 --> 01:29:04,000 We also want to factor in the health of the specific service and those specific rate pairs that are having to pay for it. 1019 01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:09,000 So regional water, for instance, town of Gibson's does not pay that. 1020 01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:23,000 So if we present something that assumes everybody paying into it, then that would be I think misleading because it would not be an accurate reflection so I think we just have to consider in trying to provide this information. 1021 01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:42,000 And when we try to do these things in comparison to our other regional districts to see the economic health of the regional district, it's just so different because of other considerations of how you're having to fund projects, timing of funding projects, magnitude of projects. 1022 01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:53,000 So there's just a lot to factor and it doesn't necessarily mean that you are in a financial dire straits, it just is a consideration of affordability. 1023 01:29:53,000 --> 01:30:00,000 So I think we'll take that back and see how we can articulate and report that back to the board and to the community. 1024 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:11,000 Thank you. Thank you very much. Directorator, go ahead and go. Thanks to the CEO on that. I know that I probably give them extra work when I look for this information. 1025 01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:20,000 It just speaks to community affordability and how we can pay for our debt. If we look at that information. 1026 01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:29,000 The other thing that we do, because I've talked to finite staff, but it means value in the regional district is some of the debts that's all added. 1027 01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:39,000 But we need to consider, as we look forward to the future, because I'm not sure how the loans will be governed as money is really cheap right now. 1028 01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:53,000 And as any of us that had parents paying for mortgages in the 80s, it meant that the cost of borrowing doubled the loan at least or tripled the loan, but money was, but houses were cheaper than. 1029 01:30:53,000 --> 01:31:06,000 But anyway, the fact of the matter is money is really cheap right now, so if interest rates change, then the prediction of cost may change if they can't lock in a loan for a number of years at cheaper rates. Thanks, Chair. 1030 01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:11,000 I had to address McManus, or you can see your hands. 1031 01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:21,000 Yeah, I appreciate that it is very difficult to communicate the kind of impact because we have different scopes of service. 1032 01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:26,000 The landfill is an easy one because everybody is involved in the landfill. 1033 01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:42,000 So we actually have a really good estimate of what a $33 million loan is going to cost the average taxpayer, which is, yeah, a $13,66 per 100,000 assessment. 1034 01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:55,000 So that I took that out of the February 2nd report, but then regional water doesn't involve the town or people who aren't on the system. 1035 01:31:55,000 --> 01:32:00,000 And then, you know, fire departments are different again. 1036 01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:05,000 Half moon bay needs a new fire hall that's not included in this. 1037 01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:09,000 There's, there's a lot coming at us. 1038 01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:22,000 And I am concerned that we don't get ourselves into a crunch where we, like, yes, we can borrow almost infinitely, but we obviously don't want to. 1039 01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:28,000 So we're going to have to have the question, the discussion of how much debt is too much debt. 1040 01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:38,000 And that it's complicated because the, it affects different taxpayers and different services differently. 1041 01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:46,000 But some kind of a breakdown on where the debt is by service might be helpful. 1042 01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:57,000 I don't know if there's an easy way to, to do that in a graphical way, at least with the big services that we have like regional water. 1043 01:32:57,000 --> 01:33:04,000 Solid waste regional recreation things like that. 1044 01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:07,000 I think I've blithered sufficiently. 1045 01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:13,000 Thank you. And I do remind directors that we do all over approaching the end of the open agenda. 1046 01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:18,000 It is lengthy and we have, we still have an in-camera agenda director Tothko had. 1047 01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:26,000 Thank you just a quick comment chair and this is I apologize director McMahon because I saw your email and I meant to sort of head off this question in a bit of a way, because 1048 01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:31,000 Solid waste might be an easy one because everybody participates. 1049 01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:34,000 But the board hasn't made the decision on how to fund that debt yet. 1050 01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:39,000 If we fund it from 100% user fees, I eat tipping fees. 1051 01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:44,000 It's actually not taxation debt funding at all. 1052 01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:55,000 And so I think that's one of the things that we have to be careful about both when we talk about debt funding and also knowing that the newspaper listens to our meetings. 1053 01:33:55,000 --> 01:34:05,000 When they report out on debt funding is it's real, you know, it's a headline grab to say, you know, $35 million in new debt blah blah blah blah. 1054 01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:08,000 But it's so much more nuanced than that. 1055 01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:11,000 And it's frustrating because it's more nuanced than that. 1056 01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:16,000 And it's not easy for us to communicate that with people when the headlines drop. 1057 01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:23,000 So I think that's something that our staff and us have to stay on top of communications with our communities. 1058 01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:24,000 Thanks. 1059 01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:26,000 Directorator. 1060 01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:27,000 Go ahead. 1061 01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:28,000 Yeah, that's that's an important point. 1062 01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:29,000 Oh, sorry. 1063 01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:31,000 Oh, I didn't see. 1064 01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:33,000 I was sorry, director. 1065 01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:34,000 I did not see your hand. 1066 01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:36,000 I will go to director Lee. 1067 01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:37,000 Go ahead. 1068 01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:47,000 Now I forgot what I was going to say. 1069 01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:49,000 Not really. 1070 01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:51,000 I wanted to say a few things. 1071 01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:58,000 And that is I was looking at the future borrowing, which director Toth did talk about. 1072 01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:02,000 And it's nice information to have. 1073 01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:04,000 But there's grants that we're going to get. 1074 01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:07,000 There's other ways of funding it like user fees. 1075 01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:10,000 So it's it's good information and it's great to see. 1076 01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:16,000 But we got to be careful not to alarm people and tell it is time to be alarmed. 1077 01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:20,000 And the other I did have a question though. 1078 01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:24,000 And that was a different question. 1079 01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:31,000 I was looking at this and trying to find the initial amount that we borrowed and the length of time we borrowed it over. 1080 01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:35,000 So I could get some apples and apples things. 1081 01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:38,000 But I couldn't find it anywhere. 1082 01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:45,000 Is there is some way I could find that information when I was curious about it? 1083 01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:51,000 I believe that I was trying to explain to in one of my news releases. 1084 01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:54,000 Just exactly what it meant, you know. 1085 01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:59,000 So does this information exist in this report? 1086 01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:01,000 Better to jailer. 1087 01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:02,000 Right. 1088 01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:10,000 The timeline's exist in attachment A, maturity and the term length. 1089 01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:13,000 That would be page 537. 1090 01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:18,000 I'm actually looking at page 537. 1091 01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:25,000 And I can see the principle balance remaining. 1092 01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:27,000 I see the annual service cost. 1093 01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:31,000 I see the interest rate, but I don't see the amount we initially borrowed. 1094 01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:37,000 And how long we had borrowed that for. 1095 01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:41,000 Sorry, could I clarify which loan you're referring to? 1096 01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:44,000 Yeah, all of them. 1097 01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:50,000 So when the loan was taken out and what was the term. 1098 01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:54,000 I apologize because I originally thought you were talking about proposed that. 1099 01:36:54,000 --> 01:37:00,000 That is something that staff could consider adding in to future iterations of this report. 1100 01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:01,000 For sure. 1101 01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:03,000 Useful information. 1102 01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:04,000 Okay. 1103 01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:05,000 Thank you. 1104 01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:06,000 All right. 1105 01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:07,000 Directorator. 1106 01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:10,000 Can you keep your comments brief? 1107 01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:12,000 You know, I'll try. 1108 01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:13,000 Thank you. 1109 01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:14,000 Yeah. 1110 01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:17,000 That's kind of what I was asking for earlier was the makeup of our debt. 1111 01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:19,000 And it's a lot of staff work. 1112 01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:25,000 And what chair tooth is saying about public communications and what the public understands is really 1113 01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:27,000 needs to be clear decisions. 1114 01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:31,000 How we fees versus overall public taxation. 1115 01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:33,000 We need to make sure we're clear about that. 1116 01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:35,000 And we talk about that. 1117 01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:37,000 Just just ending really quickly. 1118 01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:44,000 A lot of the Republicans in the US still think that tariffs are paid for by other countries. 1119 01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:48,000 So that's an example of how we need to inform the public. 1120 01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:49,000 Thanks. 1121 01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:50,000 Yes. 1122 01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:57,000 There is misinformation and disinformation out there about the finances of the world. 1123 01:37:57,000 --> 01:38:02,000 And it serves some people and does a disservice to others. 1124 01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:06,000 I am looking around and I don't see any hands up at the moment. 1125 01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:10,000 I'm going to just move right along to our. 1126 01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:15,000 The minutes from our P tack meeting of Tuesday February 17th. 1127 01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:21,000 I see that director Lee and director man were at this meeting. 1128 01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:27,000 And I'm going to look to them to see if there's any comments that they wish to put to the board. 1129 01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:30,000 Otherwise. 1130 01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:36,000 These minutes are one of the reports that was adopted go ahead director Lee. 1131 01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:42,000 I did want to mention that there was a presentation made that was extremely interesting. 1132 01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:46,000 I don't know if if it's kept somewhere or not. 1133 01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:48,000 What was the nature of the presentation? 1134 01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:54,000 It talked about actual money to be borrowed and the impact long term. 1135 01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:59,000 It was quite a nice presentation made to the group. 1136 01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:04,000 The updates to the draft solid waste management. 1137 01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:05,000 Yes. 1138 01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:09,000 Is that something that we've already seen in it. 1139 01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:12,000 Or that is available online. 1140 01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:16,000 Go ahead director or sorry general manager Rosenbum. 1141 01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:18,000 Thank you for the question here. 1142 01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:23,000 That's the same information as was provided earlier to the board. 1143 01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:26,000 You know, report about funding strategies. 1144 01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:31,000 I've put a protocol that's mentioned in the sort of the budget management plan and the presentation. 1145 01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:41,000 I believe is available on the P tack side on our LDS city website on the P it's based. 1146 01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:49,000 Available and can you repeat that last part on the website on the SHD website on their P tack advisory committees. 1147 01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:50,000 Okay. 1148 01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:53,000 Yeah. On the front page advisory committee. 1149 01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:54,000 Thank you chair. 1150 01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:55,000 Yeah. 1151 01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:57,000 I had seen the information before. 1152 01:39:57,000 --> 01:40:01,000 But it was put in a different format. 1153 01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:04,000 Simplified format, which I really did like. 1154 01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:06,000 So I'm going to go pull it now. 1155 01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:07,000 Excellent. 1156 01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:08,000 Good. 1157 01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:15,000 With no other comments on this item, I'm going to move to 5.1, which is. 1158 01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:19,000 It is a correspondence. 1159 01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:25,000 From Joanne Malar communications coordinator regional district of Oconogans and El Camine. 1160 01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:29,000 About orphan dams. 1161 01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:31,000 Sorry, orphan dikes. 1162 01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:39,000 And although at first I thought that this might be something that should be dealt with at UBCM. 1163 01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:44,000 I realized that UBCM has put some restrictions on our resolutions in that they should be. 1164 01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:47,000 They should be. 1165 01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:50,000 They should fit into the entire province's. 1166 01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:53,000 Per view and not be to regional. 1167 01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:56,000 And so this is I believe there is. 1168 01:40:56,000 --> 01:41:03,000 A dikes that's owned and operated by the regional district, which we could fall into. 1169 01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:05,000 This category. 1170 01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:07,000 Go ahead, director. 1171 01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:09,000 I'm. 1172 01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:13,000 I'm a bit confused why this is on here because we we do get correspondence from other. 1173 01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:18,000 Well, governments all the time saying, hey, can you here's our motion? Can you support it? 1174 01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:23,000 So I've been kind of looking around seeing did any director ask for this to be on the agenda and I don't see it. 1175 01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:25,000 So. 1176 01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:26,000 I. 1177 01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:31,000 I feel like we should continue to follow a general protocol, like if a director asks for something to come to the board. 1178 01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:34,000 Let's let's do that, but I'm not seeing that and. 1179 01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:37,000 Given that I don't see anybody jumping a jumping in. 1180 01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:40,000 I just we've received this already let's move on to the next agenda item. 1181 01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:42,000 I don't think we need to get. 1182 01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:44,000 I don't think we need to. 1183 01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:46,000 I address every single request. 1184 01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:52,000 I just saw one from Cam loops that came in about indigenous relations last week and I don't see that on the agenda. 1185 01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:54,000 We're not putting it on the town agenda. 1186 01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:55,000 I was a bit too. 1187 01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:56,000 Because nobody's asked for it. 1188 01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:57,000 So. 1189 01:41:57,000 --> 01:41:59,000 I bet let's just move on. 1190 01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:00,000 It's my. 1191 01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:05,000 Yes, excuse me, we are being asked to sign their letter. 1192 01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:08,000 It is a specific action. 1193 01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:10,000 It's not to support their. 1194 01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:12,000 They're motion at UBCM. 1195 01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:17,000 We are being asked to to be added as a signatory on their letter. 1196 01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:18,000 Okay. 1197 01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:19,000 So do we need to. 1198 01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:23,000 We need a motion to sign this letter. 1199 01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:25,000 If that is the will of the committee. 1200 01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:27,000 Go ahead. 1201 01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:28,000 Yes. 1202 01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:30,000 Okay. 1203 01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:35,000 So, director Lee. 1204 01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:37,000 Thank you, chair. 1205 01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:44,000 I didn't really think it was our business because we don't have any dikes anywhere. 1206 01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:47,000 So we could become handling on something. 1207 01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:51,000 Do we have a dike somewhere that's we need to worry about. 1208 01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:52,000 I had to. 1209 01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:53,000 Thank you. 1210 01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:55,000 Thank you for the question. 1211 01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:56,000 Yes. 1212 01:42:56,000 --> 01:42:58,000 The idea is that I could the outside. 1213 01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:01,000 But it's registered in our name. 1214 01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:07,000 Our contacts are tax anywhere in the province where there is actually no owner for. 1215 01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:12,000 And hence it's a big risk to the community because there's nobody responsible for operating 1216 01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:15,000 a maintenance of those of those tax. 1217 01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:17,000 This is different. 1218 01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:24,000 So the motion is to put the board signature on this letter and return it to. 1219 01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:29,000 The request is, but I'm going to put it to the board is motion. 1220 01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:30,000 Are you making that motion? 1221 01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:31,000 I am. 1222 01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:32,000 Okay. 1223 01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:33,000 Do we. 1224 01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:34,000 Anybody second again? 1225 01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:36,000 Is anybody second in me? 1226 01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:37,000 No. 1227 01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:43,000 Then I'm going to abandon that motion and we're going to move on to the. 1228 01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:48,000 In camera portion of our agenda. 1229 01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:50,000 I move. 1230 01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:55,000 That the public be excluded from attendance at the meeting in accordance with sections nine one 1231 01:43:55,000 --> 01:44:00,000 one K and sorry ninety one K and ninety two be. 1232 01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:03,000 Three of the community charter. 1233 01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:05,000 So moved. 1234 01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:08,000 So second it all in favor. 1235 01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:09,000 Okay. 1236 01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:10,000 Thank you. 1237 01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:15,000 And we're going to adjourn the public portion of the meeting. 1238 01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:16,000 Sorry. 1239 01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:18,000 We're going to pause public portion. 1240 01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:21,000 And we're going to go to in camera. 1241 01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:23,000 We shall return here in five minutes time. 1242 01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:27,000 Thank you. 1243 01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:57,000 Thank you. 1244 02:58:30,000 --> 02:58:54,240 Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the open portion of the Sunshine 1245 02:58:54,240 --> 02:59:00,240 because regional district committee of the whole meeting for Thursday, February 26th. 1246 02:59:00,240 --> 02:59:03,240 It is currently 12.29. 1247 02:59:03,240 --> 02:59:13,240 And I am going to inform the public that we shall change the time for our board meeting. 1248 02:59:13,240 --> 02:59:20,240 This afternoon, from 1 o'clock until 1.30, due to the length of our morning meeting. 1249 02:59:20,240 --> 02:59:24,240 So I'm looking for a motion to adjourn this morning's meeting. 1250 02:59:24,240 --> 02:59:27,240 I have a motion, I have a seconder, all in favor. 1251 02:59:27,240 --> 02:59:28,240 Very good. 1252 02:59:28,240 --> 02:59:29,240 Thank you. 1253 02:59:29,240 --> 02:59:31,240 We'll see you in an hour. 1254 02:59:31,240 --> 02:59:32,240 Are there- 1255 02:59:32,240 --> 02:59:33,240 Are there- 1256 02:59:50,240 --> 03:00:00,240 Are there- 1257 03:14:00,000 --> 03:14:12,080 Good afternoon everybody, everybody and welcome to the Sunshine Coast Regional District. Regular board 1258 03:14:12,080 --> 03:14:18,840 meeting for February 26th, 2026. It's 131. I would like to call the meeting to order and acknowledge 1259 03:14:18,840 --> 03:14:24,720 that the SDRD is located on the traditional territories of the Shishal Khan School Hall Machinations. 1260 03:14:24,960 --> 03:14:31,920 Directors, we do have a fairly lengthy agenda in front of us today. I've had a request to strike 1261 03:14:31,920 --> 03:14:38,880 Directors reports from the agenda today. We've got a notice of motion from Director Gabbius that we're 1262 03:14:38,880 --> 03:14:45,360 going to be adding as item 8.2, which is just for introduction. And I would like to move the motions 1263 03:14:46,080 --> 03:14:53,520 up to after item 3 on the agenda. Directors, are there any other changes to make 1264 03:14:53,520 --> 03:15:02,320 to amend this amended agenda? If not, I would look for motion to adopt. 1265 03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:19,000 The amended amended agenda, director Lee, director Gabbius, all those in favor. Thank you, that's carried. So first up, item 3.1, regular board meeting, minutes of February 12, 2026, before we adopt those directors, are there any errors or omissions? 1266 03:15:19,000 --> 03:15:42,000 If not, can I have a motion to adopt? Thank you, director McMahon, seconded. Thank you, all those in favor. Any opposed? That motion's carried. Okay, so now we're going to go to item 8.1, which is the notice of motion regarding Sunshine Coast Pickleball. Director Baxis is your motion. I'm going to turn it over to you. 1267 03:15:42,000 --> 03:16:01,000 Thank you. Before we begin, I would like to draw your attention to the last line after the motion, and I move to strike the last line. You haven't made any motion yet, so you can just not move that as part of your motion. 1268 03:16:01,000 --> 03:16:16,000 I move that, whereas the Sunshine Coast Pickleball Association, which is to enter into a land use agreement with the SCRD for the development of the recreation complex. On the parks designated property immediately west of 1309 Roberts Creek Road. 1269 03:16:16,000 --> 03:16:34,000 And I've got the folio number, etc. Therefore, be it resolved that the relevant staff meet with representatives of the SCPA to discuss the next steps in the process of entering into a land use agreement and return a report to the board. 1270 03:16:35,000 --> 03:16:54,000 Okay, full stop. Thank you, Director Bax. You did submit the motion in time for debate for our procedure by law, and the additional item item be technically was constituted as a late item, but the motion itself is in order. So I will look for a seconder. 1271 03:16:54,000 --> 03:17:04,000 Because this is park service, it's going to be park's function participants, so rural directors. Okay, thank you. Director, I assume that was going to be your question. 1272 03:17:04,000 --> 03:17:13,000 Yes. All right, thank you, Director Lee, your second day. Okay, so we have a motion currently on the floor. Directors discussion, Director Bax. 1273 03:17:13,000 --> 03:17:30,000 So the rationale behind this is simply an opportunity for us to officially sanction the staff entering into discussions with the pickable association. I see them here in the gallery. 1274 03:17:30,000 --> 03:17:48,000 In order to find out what it is that the pickable association needs to do in order to pursue the proposal that they have brought forward and how they're going to interact with the regional district. 1275 03:17:48,000 --> 03:18:02,000 I know that they're I've talked with some of the people within your executive and that director Bax to me. Sorry, I know that the executive of the pickable association is discuss with me and they have. 1276 03:18:02,000 --> 03:18:11,000 I have information about similar land use agreements that have been brought forward in other jurisdictions that I think would be very pertinent and time saving. 1277 03:18:11,000 --> 03:18:21,000 In this discussion and I'm looking forward to seeing if I can find support amongst my peers here to put this motion forward. 1278 03:18:21,000 --> 03:18:29,000 Okay, thank you, Director Bax. I mean, the motion's already been put forward. So you know, we're in debate now, Director McMahon. 1279 03:18:29,000 --> 03:18:43,000 Yes, I get it. The pickle ball is looking for a home. I am just concerned that there may be other options and to narrow it down to just this parcel, maybe premature. 1280 03:18:43,000 --> 03:18:58,000 I still have not heard back any clear reason why the pickle ball could not be place next to the seashell arena in seashell, which is already a recreational hub with parking and all the other amenities. 1281 03:18:58,000 --> 03:19:18,000 So we do not yet know what's involved there. So I hope it will continue to work with the district of seashell as well because it may prove to be an easier ask. 1282 03:19:18,000 --> 03:19:29,000 So knowing that that question was coming, I did ask staff the district of seashell about where things landed because the loop hadn't been closed with council yet. 1283 03:19:29,000 --> 03:19:44,000 And what I heard from corporate staff was that there was going to be a number of like lot consolidations that we're going to have to happen in order to create, you know, legal space in order to cite the facility. 1284 03:19:44,000 --> 03:19:54,000 Because I think the proposal that was brought to the district to seashell, and that we sort of talked about moving forward with staff would have cited the building right across a property line. 1285 03:19:54,000 --> 03:20:02,000 And they're both our properties, but there are set back like there are procedures and requirements for properties when it comes to parcel lines. 1286 03:20:02,000 --> 03:20:12,000 I haven't been able to touch base with the planning staff since you brought that question up. So I know from the corporate side that sort of where things stalled, if you will. 1287 03:20:12,000 --> 03:20:20,000 But I also would support continuing that that work in seashell to possible director angster. 1288 03:20:20,000 --> 03:20:22,000 Yeah. 1289 03:20:22,000 --> 03:20:23,000 Yeah. 1290 03:20:23,000 --> 03:20:33,000 I'd love to see more recreation that area. It's it's a big recreation area arena golf course soccer fields lit baseball. 1291 03:20:33,000 --> 03:20:37,000 I'd love to see it, but it seems complicated. 1292 03:20:37,000 --> 03:20:46,000 And I'm not sure exactly what piece you're referring to in terms of going across a lot line. I know I just don't know exactly. I know the lot the layout. 1293 03:20:46,000 --> 03:20:55,000 But also to this board should remember that if it if it takes into account the arena property, then that's regional district in a sense too, right? 1294 03:20:55,000 --> 03:20:56,000 Yeah. 1295 03:20:56,000 --> 03:21:02,000 So not necessarily the district of seashell because we've leased it to the regional district for the arena use. 1296 03:21:02,000 --> 03:21:10,000 So I'd love to see that pursued, but it seems so complicated sadly for a group of people who have been asking for a number of years. 1297 03:21:10,000 --> 03:21:15,000 Much like the lawn bowlers were for facility. Thanks. 1298 03:21:15,000 --> 03:21:20,000 I think my first meeting with the Sunshine Coast Pickable Association was back in 2019. 1299 03:21:21,000 --> 03:21:28,000 So yeah, definitely been been searching for a while on how to land this director backs. 1300 03:21:28,000 --> 03:21:45,000 Yeah. Thank you. And one of the things that I think makes this particularly attractive to the people of Robert's Creek as well as the Sunshine Coast and anybody who uses a community hall, which is a really popular venue. 1301 03:21:45,000 --> 03:22:00,000 But one of the drawbacks of the community hall is the lack of parking. And so when I was first approached by the Pickable Association, I asked them to include a parking lot that could be used for the by the community association for their events. 1302 03:22:00,000 --> 03:22:26,000 As well as I asked them to approach the Disc Golfers Association to incorporate Disc Golf course on this land and I think that the it could become a new recreation hub in Robert's Creek that's that would offer these type of amenities as well as bike lockups for people that take transit. 1303 03:22:26,000 --> 03:22:37,000 And if when you get at the chance to have a look at the plan, you'll see what kind of a boon it will be for my community as well as the Pickable ballers. 1304 03:22:37,000 --> 03:22:42,000 Thank you. Any other comments from directors director. 1305 03:22:42,000 --> 03:22:47,000 Thank you chair and happy to see so many people showing up in support. 1306 03:22:48,000 --> 03:23:00,000 I'm supportive of sharing of information between staff and the Pickable Ball Association because they're, you know, I think that's one option for them that's one land option. 1307 03:23:00,000 --> 03:23:12,000 There's the arena there's probably other ones as well. And so what would it entail for the association to go forward with this parcel. I'm I'm totally okay with that. 1308 03:23:12,000 --> 03:23:16,000 I don't know much about that parcel. I don't know what can happen there. 1309 03:23:16,000 --> 03:23:27,000 And I don't know what the, you know, the constraints of that site either. And I don't know if the association is knows about the, any constraints that could maybe get in the way. 1310 03:23:27,000 --> 03:23:39,000 But so all this to say like I'm supportive of the conversation between staff and the Pickable Ball Association and just so that they have more information to move forward with their plans. 1311 03:23:39,000 --> 03:23:45,000 With you know I'm assuming there'll be other, there might be other options being supported at the same time. 1312 03:23:46,000 --> 03:23:52,000 Thank you, director Gavis. Any other discussion from my directors rural or municipal. 1313 03:23:52,000 --> 03:24:00,000 If not, I will call the question, rural directors only all those in favor. 1314 03:24:00,000 --> 03:24:03,000 And that is carried unanimously. Great. 1315 03:24:03,000 --> 03:24:09,000 Thank you, director Bax and thank you to the Sunshine Coast Pickable Ball Association for bringing that forward. 1316 03:24:16,000 --> 03:24:21,000 And we don't normally, you know, we don't endorse that sort of, you know, clapping and shit livelyness. 1317 03:24:21,000 --> 03:24:23,000 But thank you for coming today, guys. 1318 03:24:23,000 --> 03:24:25,000 Thank you very much. Yep. 1319 03:24:45,000 --> 03:24:47,000 You 1320 03:25:15,000 --> 03:25:44,000 Okay. And note our entire gallery has left us so sad that they didn't want to stay for the financial plan by law. 1321 03:25:44,000 --> 03:25:54,000 But moving on to item 8.2, which is the notice of motion being read into the record. 1322 03:25:54,000 --> 03:25:56,000 We're doing motions now. 1323 03:25:56,000 --> 03:26:06,000 So director Gavis has a notice of motion to read into the record for next board meeting. 1324 03:26:06,000 --> 03:26:13,000 Thank you, Gerry. I have a notice of motion not to be debated today, but to look at future board the next board meeting. 1325 03:26:13,000 --> 03:26:20,000 So the motion is that the following be submitted to AVICC as a late resolution. 1326 03:26:20,000 --> 03:26:28,000 Here's the resolution establishing a provincial system of local watershed boards across British Columbia. 1327 03:26:28,000 --> 03:26:31,000 Okay, I'm going to read the whole thing. 1328 03:26:31,000 --> 03:26:33,000 It's right. Yes, for the public at home. 1329 03:26:33,000 --> 03:26:42,000 Whereas communities in British Columbia are experiencing increasing drought flooding, water impacts, and water supply and certainty that are contributing to infrastructure damage. 1330 03:26:42,000 --> 03:26:46,000 Rising emergency response costs and economic disruption. 1331 03:26:46,000 --> 03:26:52,000 And whereas local governments are responsible for protecting drinking water and supporting housing, economic development and climate preparedness. 1332 03:26:52,000 --> 03:26:58,000 But like the authority coordinated watershed governance structures and stable resources to manage growing water security risks. 1333 03:26:58,000 --> 03:27:09,000 Therefore, be it resolved that the Union of British Columbia municipalities call on the province of British Columbia to establish a provincial framework and provide stable long term funding for locally based watershed boards. 1334 03:27:09,000 --> 03:27:19,000 Go develop with first nations and local governments to support watershed scale planning source water protection and coordinated drought and flood preparedness across British Columbia. 1335 03:27:19,000 --> 03:27:20,000 Thank you, Gerry. 1336 03:27:20,000 --> 03:27:24,000 And that will be up on the next board meeting agenda. 1337 03:27:24,000 --> 03:27:26,000 Let's do that. You didn't make it longer though. 1338 03:27:26,000 --> 03:27:28,000 Just a little more reading time. 1339 03:27:28,000 --> 03:27:38,000 Okay, and so we're going to move on to item 4.1, which is business arising from those board meeting minutes that we adopted before the. 1340 03:27:39,000 --> 03:27:42,000 Pickable conversation. 1341 03:27:42,000 --> 03:27:48,000 So item 4.1 is an amendment to transit expansion funding resolution corporate officer. 1342 03:27:48,000 --> 03:27:50,000 Did you want to speak to that real quick. 1343 03:27:50,000 --> 03:27:51,000 Thank you chair. 1344 03:27:51,000 --> 03:27:59,000 So this is just to actually reflect the action that we have to take going forward due to the loss of transit expansion funding. 1345 03:27:59,000 --> 03:28:05,000 So staff are requesting the minutes be amended to reflect the absence of that funding. 1346 03:28:05,000 --> 03:28:12,000 Thank you and we've got a recommendation here on page 19. 1347 03:28:12,000 --> 03:28:16,000 And then that's been moved. That's been seconded any discussion. 1348 03:28:16,000 --> 03:28:19,000 All those in favor. 1349 03:28:19,000 --> 03:28:21,000 Any opposed. That motion's carried. 1350 03:28:21,000 --> 03:28:23,000 Okay. Thank you. 1351 03:28:23,000 --> 03:28:28,000 And so we're going to move on to item 6.1 because we have no delegations today. 1352 03:28:29,000 --> 03:28:38,000 Community the whole meeting recommendations. One to eight of February 12th, 2026. 1353 03:28:38,000 --> 03:28:44,000 Directors do wish to pull any of those for separate consideration. 1354 03:28:44,000 --> 03:28:49,000 Before we endorse the block. 1355 03:28:49,000 --> 03:28:57,000 If not, I will call the I will look for a motion to endorse please moved seconded any discussion. 1356 03:28:58,000 --> 03:29:00,000 All those in favor. 1357 03:29:00,000 --> 03:29:02,000 Thank you. That's carried. 1358 03:29:02,000 --> 03:29:04,000 Correct. 1359 03:29:04,000 --> 03:29:05,000 Yes. Thank you. 1360 03:29:05,000 --> 03:29:07,000 And just a question for staff. 1361 03:29:07,000 --> 03:29:11,000 If I may about the accessibility plan. 1362 03:29:11,000 --> 03:29:15,000 Tories with the next steps are now that we're endorsing the plan. 1363 03:29:15,000 --> 03:29:17,000 When are we going to see it next? 1364 03:29:17,000 --> 03:29:18,000 What's happening now? 1365 03:29:18,000 --> 03:29:20,000 Thank you. 1366 03:29:20,000 --> 03:29:21,000 Corporate officer. 1367 03:29:21,000 --> 03:29:22,000 Thank you chair. 1368 03:29:22,000 --> 03:29:25,000 So subject to board endorsement of the plan. 1369 03:29:25,000 --> 03:29:29,000 We have a let's talk page that's ready to launch as well as a news release. 1370 03:29:29,000 --> 03:29:34,000 The accessible B.C. Act says that once the plan has been put together. 1371 03:29:34,000 --> 03:29:36,000 We must put it out for public feedback. 1372 03:29:36,000 --> 03:29:39,000 So we will continue that process. 1373 03:29:39,000 --> 03:29:44,000 And you may recall that we've also recommended that the committee terms be extended for the next three years 1374 03:29:44,000 --> 03:29:49,000 to facilitate some continuity and ongoing conversation with that committee. 1375 03:29:49,000 --> 03:29:54,000 We committed to meeting at least once per year to update the committee on the progress. 1376 03:29:54,000 --> 03:29:56,000 That the local governments are making on the plan. 1377 03:29:56,000 --> 03:30:00,000 And just to provide updates on any public feedback that. 1378 03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:17,000 That we're receiving, also following endorsement, the plan will have to be circulated to staff, so that we can have a look at some of the things that may already be in progress, things that we may already be doing, and then to identify any new opportunities that the committee has identified for the local governments. 1379 03:30:17,000 --> 03:30:25,000 So the process will be ongoing and we'll be back likely to the board with updates as we go along. 1380 03:30:25,000 --> 03:30:36,000 Thank you. All right, and see no other hands. We'll move on to item 6.2, which is the electoral area services committee meeting recommendations 1 to 8 of February 19. 1381 03:30:36,000 --> 03:30:41,000 Directors, are there any of those that you want to pull for separate consideration? 1382 03:30:41,000 --> 03:30:50,000 If not, can I have a motion to endorse the block please moved and seconded any discussion on the block? 1383 03:30:50,000 --> 03:30:56,000 All those in favor. Any opposed? That motion is carried. 1384 03:30:56,000 --> 03:31:06,000 All right, next up is item 6.3, which is committee of the whole meeting recommendations 1, 4, 5 and 9 from this morning. 1385 03:31:06,000 --> 03:31:18,000 And directors, are you wanting to pull any of those for separate consideration? 1386 03:31:18,000 --> 03:31:24,000 This is if you're looking at the PDF of the amended agenda, it's page 32 and 33. 1387 03:31:24,000 --> 03:31:26,000 Director Bax? 1388 03:31:26,000 --> 03:31:46,000 We did discuss this morning about recommendation number 9 of the directors re-neumeration at which point should we should we pull this now and discuss the appointment of directors for this re-neumeration task group, whatever you want to call it? 1389 03:31:46,000 --> 03:31:50,000 For simplicity sake? Yes, because we're considering endorsement of the block. 1390 03:31:50,000 --> 03:31:52,000 Right, and so this is the time. 1391 03:31:52,000 --> 03:31:55,000 Okay, we'll pull recommendation number 9, please. 1392 03:31:55,000 --> 03:31:57,000 Okay, so 1, 4 and 5. 1393 03:31:57,000 --> 03:32:03,000 I don't see anybody else jumping at the bat, so I can have a motion to endorse those three, moved and seconded. 1394 03:32:03,000 --> 03:32:05,000 All those in favor. 1395 03:32:05,000 --> 03:32:07,000 Okay, that's carried. Thank you. 1396 03:32:07,000 --> 03:32:15,000 Now, recommendation 9, Director Bax, you asked to pull it because of the, I assume the appointment of one or two directors to this working group. 1397 03:32:15,000 --> 03:32:24,000 That's correct, and I'm looking to the other directors to see what kind of agreement we can come to as to who should be populating this group. 1398 03:32:24,000 --> 03:32:35,000 There was discussion earlier this earlier today that we should have a minimum of two of us on this group and a pair of staff members as well. 1399 03:32:35,000 --> 03:32:46,000 And so I'm, I'm going to, I'm going to recommend that Director Gabias be on this. 1400 03:32:46,000 --> 03:32:47,000 No. 1401 03:32:47,000 --> 03:32:50,000 So, I just want to clarify this. 1402 03:32:50,000 --> 03:32:51,000 Corporate officer. 1403 03:32:51,000 --> 03:32:54,000 Okay, because it's a working group. 1404 03:32:54,000 --> 03:33:02,000 I think as Board Chair, I can appoint people directly to it unless you guys otherwise direct. 1405 03:33:02,000 --> 03:33:09,000 Not to put you on the spot. Corporate officer. 1406 03:33:09,000 --> 03:33:15,000 So there's no formal guidelines around working group. 1407 03:33:15,000 --> 03:33:19,000 I believe it should be at the Board's discretion. 1408 03:33:19,000 --> 03:33:27,000 If the Board's comfortable with the Board Chair appointing individuals, I don't see an issue with that from a procedural perspective. 1409 03:33:27,000 --> 03:33:29,000 Okay, so I've seen head nods this far. 1410 03:33:29,000 --> 03:33:31,000 Director McMahon. 1411 03:33:31,000 --> 03:33:43,000 Yeah, I would be fine with the Board Chair appointing. He has, in all previous instances, you know, talked to us about whether we want to do this. He doesn't fall in told us. 1412 03:33:43,000 --> 03:33:52,000 So if we just change the wording to say, and that the Board Chair appoint one or two directors to the working group. 1413 03:33:52,000 --> 03:33:59,000 And so then the recommendation can stand and I will just suggest, although it may not, you know, 1414 03:33:59,000 --> 03:34:04,000 my suggestion is that it'd be one EA director and one municipal director. 1415 03:34:04,000 --> 03:34:05,000 Thanks. 1416 03:34:05,000 --> 03:34:08,000 But you're going to move the recommendation with. 1417 03:34:08,000 --> 03:34:14,000 I move recommendation number nine with the addition of the one chair. 1418 03:34:14,000 --> 03:34:15,000 Okay. 1419 03:34:15,000 --> 03:34:20,000 And I've got a seconder for that. Any other discussion? 1420 03:34:20,000 --> 03:34:28,000 Yeah, so this is on page 33 of the amendment agenda package, which is that a working group comprised of directors and staff be established. 1421 03:34:28,000 --> 03:34:34,000 To conduct an internal review of director's remuneration allows us as expense reimbursements and benefits. 1422 03:34:34,000 --> 03:34:39,000 And that the board chair appoint one to two directors to the working group. 1423 03:34:39,000 --> 03:34:51,000 And that the CAO appoint one or two staff to the working group and that a report be brought back before Q4 2026 with recommendations for directors remunerations allowances expense reimbursements and benefits. 1424 03:34:51,000 --> 03:34:55,000 And further that this recommendation be forwarded to the February 26 board meeting. 1425 03:34:55,000 --> 03:34:57,000 So yeah. 1426 03:34:57,000 --> 03:35:03,000 And I hear you guys loud and clear and you know, because we only talked about it this morning as this being the path. 1427 03:35:03,000 --> 03:35:09,000 Uh, we kind of short notice to try and pull together who wants to be on it. So we'll figure it out over the next couple days. 1428 03:35:09,000 --> 03:35:13,000 But I don't see any other hands up. So I'll call the question all those in favor. 1429 03:35:13,000 --> 03:35:15,000 Thank you. That's unanimous. 1430 03:35:15,000 --> 03:35:22,000 And so with that, I think we move on to item 6.4, which is contract award for RFP. 1431 03:35:22,000 --> 03:35:25,000 To 511702 mobile device services. 1432 03:35:25,000 --> 03:35:29,000 This is starting on page 34 of our amended agenda. 1433 03:35:29,000 --> 03:35:36,000 And, uh, manage your nails. Was there anything you wanted to introduce on this report? 1434 03:35:36,000 --> 03:35:37,000 Thank you chair. 1435 03:35:37,000 --> 03:35:44,000 Uh, yeah, this report request board direction and options to award a three year mobile device services contract. 1436 03:35:44,000 --> 03:35:47,000 Yes, sir, D has received two compliance. 1437 03:35:47,000 --> 03:35:58,000 From Rogers and tell us that met requirements in response to the RFP that was closed in December with tell us receiving the highest overall value score. 1438 03:35:58,000 --> 03:35:59,000 Thank you chair. 1439 03:35:59,000 --> 03:36:00,000 Great. 1440 03:36:00,000 --> 03:36:01,000 Thank you very much. 1441 03:36:01,000 --> 03:36:04,000 Directors any questions. 1442 03:36:04,000 --> 03:36:06,000 Discussion recommendations. 1443 03:36:06,000 --> 03:36:07,000 Director Bax. 1444 03:36:07,000 --> 03:36:11,000 This curiosity question. How many mobile devices are we talking about here? 1445 03:36:12,000 --> 03:36:14,000 Just just for curiosity sick. 1446 03:36:14,000 --> 03:36:16,000 I thought I had read it, but my apologies. 1447 03:36:16,000 --> 03:36:17,000 It's a little bit. 1448 03:36:17,000 --> 03:36:20,000 So manager Nelson. 1449 03:36:20,000 --> 03:36:22,000 Yes, thank you for the question. 1450 03:36:22,000 --> 03:36:26,000 We currently have 226 mobile devices. 1451 03:36:26,000 --> 03:36:40,000 But in conjunction with creating a mobile device allocations policy, we were able to identify 54 of those devices, which wouldn't meet the criteria. 1452 03:36:40,000 --> 03:36:45,000 If the new contract, so we'd be getting it down to about 172. 1453 03:36:45,000 --> 03:36:47,000 Thank you. 1454 03:36:47,000 --> 03:36:49,000 Um, yeah. 1455 03:36:49,000 --> 03:36:53,000 So directors any director. 1456 03:36:53,000 --> 03:36:58,000 I just want to move the recommendations on page 31. 1457 03:36:58,000 --> 03:36:59,000 Thank you. 1458 03:36:59,000 --> 03:37:00,000 And I've got a seconder for that. 1459 03:37:00,000 --> 03:37:03,000 So 34 of the amended agenda package. 1460 03:37:03,000 --> 03:37:04,000 Uh, that's okay. 1461 03:37:04,000 --> 03:37:09,000 I appreciate you have that copy open so that when somebody else has that copy open they know what page it's on. 1462 03:37:10,000 --> 03:37:12,000 I don't see any other hands up. 1463 03:37:12,000 --> 03:37:13,000 So I'll call the question. 1464 03:37:13,000 --> 03:37:14,000 All those in favor. 1465 03:37:14,000 --> 03:37:15,000 Thank you. 1466 03:37:15,000 --> 03:37:16,000 Anybody opposed. 1467 03:37:16,000 --> 03:37:18,000 Emotions carried. 1468 03:37:18,000 --> 03:37:19,000 Thank you. 1469 03:37:19,000 --> 03:37:20,000 Manager Nelson. 1470 03:37:20,000 --> 03:37:21,000 Next up. 1471 03:37:21,000 --> 03:37:25,000 We have item 6.5, which is the Pender Harbor Living Heritage Society. 1472 03:37:25,000 --> 03:37:28,000 Portable on Sarah Ray Hall Land. 1473 03:37:28,000 --> 03:37:32,000 Uh, this is starting on page 36 of the amended package. 1474 03:37:32,000 --> 03:37:40,000 And turn this over to staff to, uh, sorry. 1475 03:37:40,000 --> 03:37:43,000 I'm sorry, manager Huntington and I'm getting caught up myself. 1476 03:37:43,000 --> 03:37:46,000 Was there anything you wanted to speak to with this report? 1477 03:37:46,000 --> 03:37:48,000 Uh, thank you chair. 1478 03:37:48,000 --> 03:37:57,000 Uh, the purpose of the report for you is to provide update to the board regarding the Pender Harbor Living Heritage Society's request to place a portable building on the Sarah. 1479 03:37:57,000 --> 03:38:00,000 Sarah Ray Hall property. 1480 03:38:00,000 --> 03:38:08,000 Uh, staff have received correspondence from the society advising that they will not be proceeding with the relocation of the building. 1481 03:38:08,000 --> 03:38:13,000 Um, and given this change staff are recommending that the outstanding board directive be resented. 1482 03:38:13,000 --> 03:38:14,000 Thank you. 1483 03:38:14,000 --> 03:38:15,000 Thank you very much. 1484 03:38:15,000 --> 03:38:16,000 I'm going to like to the area director. 1485 03:38:16,000 --> 03:38:17,000 Go ahead. 1486 03:38:17,000 --> 03:38:19,000 Uh, thank you chair. 1487 03:38:19,000 --> 03:38:25,000 I'd like to make a motion that we accept the recommendations as stated on page 36. 1488 03:38:25,000 --> 03:38:26,000 Thank you. 1489 03:38:26,000 --> 03:38:29,000 We've got a second or four that any discussion. 1490 03:38:29,000 --> 03:38:31,000 All those in favor. 1491 03:38:31,000 --> 03:38:33,000 Thank you any opposed. 1492 03:38:33,000 --> 03:38:34,000 That motion's carried. 1493 03:38:34,000 --> 03:38:36,000 Thank you manager Huntington. 1494 03:38:36,000 --> 03:38:44,000 And next up we have item seven point one, which is a letter from Liz Kelly Eggmont Community Club. 1495 03:38:44,000 --> 03:38:50,000 Regarding a request for letter support for phase two project property revitalization. 1496 03:38:50,000 --> 03:38:53,000 Uh, director Lee will look to you because it's your area. 1497 03:38:53,000 --> 03:38:55,000 Uh, yes, thank you chair. 1498 03:38:55,000 --> 03:39:05,000 I'd like to make a motion that the SCRD board provide a letter and support with respect to the Eggmont Community Club's phase two waterfront park and play project. 1499 03:39:05,000 --> 03:39:06,000 Thank you. 1500 03:39:06,000 --> 03:39:09,000 I've got a second or four that. 1501 03:39:09,000 --> 03:39:11,000 Any discussion. 1502 03:39:11,000 --> 03:39:13,000 All those in favor. 1503 03:39:13,000 --> 03:39:14,000 Thank you. 1504 03:39:14,000 --> 03:39:15,000 That's carried. 1505 03:39:15,000 --> 03:39:16,000 All right. 1506 03:39:16,000 --> 03:39:18,000 We've already dealt with item eight. 1507 03:39:18,000 --> 03:39:21,000 So now we move on to bylaws. 1508 03:39:21,000 --> 03:39:23,000 Everybody's favorite. 1509 03:39:24,000 --> 03:39:27,000 And uh, first up is item nine point one. 1510 03:39:27,000 --> 03:39:34,000 SCRD municipal ticket information system amendment bylaw five five eight point fourteen twenty twenty six. 1511 03:39:34,000 --> 03:39:36,000 Starting on page forty six corporate officer. 1512 03:39:36,000 --> 03:39:38,000 Did you have anything you want to introduce. 1513 03:39:38,000 --> 03:39:39,000 Thank you chair. 1514 03:39:39,000 --> 03:39:43,000 I'll just point out that item nine point one and nine point two. 1515 03:39:43,000 --> 03:39:49,000 Are both ticketing bylaws coming forward in order to align our ticketing offenses and fines with. 1516 03:39:49,000 --> 03:39:57,000 The newly adopted building bylaw number seven seven nine and the water rates and regulations bylaw seven seven eight. 1517 03:39:57,000 --> 03:39:58,000 Thank you. 1518 03:39:58,000 --> 03:40:02,000 And I can do three readings at a time on this one right for second and third. 1519 03:40:02,000 --> 03:40:03,000 Correct. 1520 03:40:03,000 --> 03:40:04,000 Thank you. 1521 03:40:04,000 --> 03:40:08,000 If there's no opposition to doing first second and third readings at once. 1522 03:40:08,000 --> 03:40:18,000 Um, can I have a motion for first second and third reading of sunshine coast regional district municipal ticket information system amendment bylaw number five five eight point fourteen twenty twenty six. 1523 03:40:19,000 --> 03:40:21,000 So moved by director angster. 1524 03:40:21,000 --> 03:40:23,000 Seconded by director McMahon. 1525 03:40:23,000 --> 03:40:26,000 Is there any discussion or debate on this motion. 1526 03:40:26,000 --> 03:40:30,000 If not, I will call the question all those in favor. 1527 03:40:30,000 --> 03:40:31,000 Thank you. 1528 03:40:31,000 --> 03:40:32,000 That's carried. 1529 03:40:32,000 --> 03:40:34,000 Now can I have a motion. 1530 03:40:34,000 --> 03:40:36,000 I should say this is voting all directors one vote each. 1531 03:40:36,000 --> 03:40:46,000 Uh, now can I have a motion for sunshine coast regional district municipal ticket information system amendment bylaw number five five eight point fourteen twenty twenty six for adoption. 1532 03:40:47,000 --> 03:40:49,000 Moving seconded. 1533 03:40:49,000 --> 03:40:53,000 Any final comments or any comments at all. 1534 03:40:53,000 --> 03:40:56,000 I will call the question then all those in favor. 1535 03:40:56,000 --> 03:40:57,000 Thank you. 1536 03:40:57,000 --> 03:40:58,000 That is carried. 1537 03:40:58,000 --> 03:41:09,000 And so now we will move on to item nine point two which is sunshine coast regional district bylaw notice enforcement amendment bylaw number six three eight point fifteen twenty twenty twenty six. 1538 03:41:09,000 --> 03:41:14,000 Can I have a motion for first second and third reading director angster. 1539 03:41:15,000 --> 03:41:16,000 Seconded. 1540 03:41:16,000 --> 03:41:17,000 Thank you. 1541 03:41:17,000 --> 03:41:20,000 Is there any discussion on this particular motion. 1542 03:41:20,000 --> 03:41:23,000 If not, this is all directors one vote each. 1543 03:41:23,000 --> 03:41:25,000 All those in favor. 1544 03:41:25,000 --> 03:41:26,000 Thank you. 1545 03:41:26,000 --> 03:41:27,000 That is carried. 1546 03:41:27,000 --> 03:41:36,000 Now may I have a motion to adopt sunshine coast regional district bylaw notice enforcement amendment bylaw number six three eight point fifteen twenty twenty six. 1547 03:41:36,000 --> 03:41:38,000 Director Gabbius. 1548 03:41:38,000 --> 03:41:40,000 Director McMahon. 1549 03:41:40,000 --> 03:41:41,000 Thank you very much. 1550 03:41:41,000 --> 03:41:43,000 Any final comments. 1551 03:41:44,000 --> 03:41:45,000 Favorite. 1552 03:41:45,000 --> 03:41:49,000 Thank you anybody opposed that motion is carried. 1553 03:41:49,000 --> 03:41:50,000 All right. 1554 03:41:50,000 --> 03:41:51,000 Thank you very much. 1555 03:41:51,000 --> 03:41:54,000 And so moving on to item nine point three. 1556 03:41:54,000 --> 03:42:02,000 Which is the sunshine coast regional district twenty twenty twenty six to twenty thirty financial plan bylaw number seventy twenty twenty twenty six. 1557 03:42:02,000 --> 03:42:03,000 CAO. 1558 03:42:03,000 --> 03:42:04,000 Did you want to. 1559 03:42:04,000 --> 03:42:07,000 Speak to this or introduce in any way. 1560 03:42:08,000 --> 03:42:11,000 No then then here it is. 1561 03:42:11,000 --> 03:42:12,000 Okay. 1562 03:42:12,000 --> 03:42:17,000 Now directors again we can do three readings of this one at the same time as well. 1563 03:42:17,000 --> 03:42:19,000 Perfect. 1564 03:42:19,000 --> 03:42:23,000 Do I have any opposition to doing for second and third reading at one go. 1565 03:42:23,000 --> 03:42:24,000 No. 1566 03:42:24,000 --> 03:42:34,000 Can I have a motion to give first second and third reading to sunshine coast regional district twenty twenty six to twenty thirty financial plan bylaw number seventy twenty twenty twenty six. 1567 03:42:35,000 --> 03:42:36,000 Director. 1568 03:42:36,000 --> 03:42:38,000 I see your hand thank you. 1569 03:42:38,000 --> 03:42:40,000 Director Lee seconding. 1570 03:42:40,000 --> 03:42:42,000 Any discussion. 1571 03:42:42,000 --> 03:42:44,000 Director McMahon. 1572 03:42:44,000 --> 03:42:45,000 Yeah. 1573 03:42:45,000 --> 03:42:47,000 I am. 1574 03:42:47,000 --> 03:42:50,000 The our budget processes extremely. 1575 03:42:50,000 --> 03:42:54,000 Complicated and very challenging and. 1576 03:42:54,000 --> 03:43:00,000 When I saw the bottom line I wasn't altogether happy and I thought about voting against budget. 1577 03:43:00,000 --> 03:43:02,000 I'm very seriously. 1578 03:43:02,000 --> 03:43:12,000 I'm not going to do that because I don't think there's anything to be gained by doing so at this point but I am going to remind the board that. 1579 03:43:12,000 --> 03:43:24,000 We did a survey of the public in October and November last year about priorities financial priorities and the public came back with their five priorities. 1580 03:43:24,000 --> 03:43:34,000 We're drinking water fire protection solid waste emergency management and parks not completely in that order every time but that was it the five. 1581 03:43:34,000 --> 03:43:39,000 And when I look at where we're spending our money number one is drinking water yay. 1582 03:43:39,000 --> 03:43:44,000 Number two is recreation facilities which isn't even on the top five. 1583 03:43:44,000 --> 03:43:46,000 And. 1584 03:43:46,000 --> 03:43:52,000 And that that our top five and and I realize is very supporting to what services you're in blah blah blah. 1585 03:43:52,000 --> 03:43:59,000 But our top five really are drinking water recreation facilities transit solid waste and fire protection. 1586 03:43:59,000 --> 03:44:01,000 So. 1587 03:44:01,000 --> 03:44:05,000 I just I feel like sometimes are. 1588 03:44:05,000 --> 03:44:15,000 Our actual on the ground spending is not necessarily aligned with either our strategic priorities or. 1589 03:44:15,000 --> 03:44:20,000 The public priorities however that's that's a long term. 1590 03:44:20,000 --> 03:44:25,000 Challenge that we're going to have to deal with over the course of time. 1591 03:44:25,000 --> 03:44:31,000 Thank you director McMahon and and it's interesting because like transit. 1592 03:44:31,000 --> 03:44:38,000 I wonder if we're I create how much recreation even comes to people's mind until it's not there for some reason. 1593 03:44:39,000 --> 03:44:50,000 Close the pool for a couple days or you know don't run the bus for a day and suddenly it's everybody's number one priority even over you know water and solid waste. 1594 03:44:50,000 --> 03:44:53,000 So you know that's my own perspectives. 1595 03:44:53,000 --> 03:44:58,000 You know we did discuss this at my council we discussed this is part of the intergovernmental. 1596 03:44:58,000 --> 03:45:00,000 I've been hearing pretty loudly. 1597 03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:20,000 Social leaders are here earlier today. Recreations important to people. Could they go play fickleball in a parking lot? Sure. But that's, you know, another example of services where people are looking for more than just the bare minimum rate. Director Stanford, I saw your hand. 1598 03:45:20,000 --> 03:45:49,000 Why is words that's exactly what I was going to say? Thank you. Any other discussion on this? If not, I will call the question. This is all directors as a weighted vote. All those in favor. Any opposed? Director White opposed? That motion is carried. And can I have a motion to adopt sunshine coast regional district 2026 to 2030 financial plan by a lot number 721-2026? 1599 03:45:49,000 --> 03:46:18,000 Moved and seconded. Any final comments? Discussion? I will call the question then all those in favor. And those opposed? Director White opposed? That motion is carried. All right. Thank you. So we've struck directors reports. We have no new business. Any more new business. But we do have an in-camera section. So I look for a motion that the public be excluded from attendance at the meeting in accordance with section 90. 1600 03:46:19,000 --> 03:46:33,000 To be triple-eye of the community charter. Moved, seconded, all those in favor. Thank you. That's carried. Any questions from online? 1601 03:46:33,000 --> 03:46:45,000 Chair, I do see the coastal border online. Okay. Any questions, Connie? Otherwise, I know we're going to be talking later. Okay. Go ahead. 1602 03:46:45,000 --> 03:46:54,000 You should be able to unmute yourself. Thank you, Chair. And through you. 1603 03:46:54,000 --> 03:47:08,000 Hi, Connie. We can hear you. Thank you, Chair. And through you to Director White. Is there a reason for the vote against the budget? 1604 03:47:08,000 --> 03:47:19,000 I mean, speak on behalf of the border. Do you do those? Well, it was a question to you. A lot of lots of reasons have been over the budget process. 1605 03:47:19,000 --> 03:47:33,000 I don't need to repeat them all today. It would take too long, probably, but there were there were a number of votes that we had both me and our alternate director to against portions of the budget. 1606 03:47:33,000 --> 03:47:40,000 Those, I think, I think the reporter was probably present for those or see those. So those would be the reasons. 1607 03:47:40,000 --> 03:47:50,000 Thank you for that. Thank you, Connie. All right. So we're going to take a couple of minutes while we're going to go in camera and we're just going to take a couple minutes to reset the room. 1608 03:48:03,000 --> 03:48:08,000 Thank you. 1609 03:48:33,000 --> 03:48:43,000 Thank you. 1610 03:49:03,000 --> 03:49:13,000 Thank you. 1611 03:49:33,000 --> 03:49:43,000 Thank you. 1612 03:50:03,000 --> 03:50:13,000 Thank you. 1613 03:50:33,000 --> 03:50:43,000 Thank you. 1614 03:51:03,000 --> 03:51:13,000 Thank you. 1615 03:51:33,000 --> 03:51:43,000 Thank you. 1616 03:52:03,000 --> 03:52:13,000 Thank you. 1617 03:52:33,000 --> 03:52:43,000 Thank you. 1618 03:53:03,000 --> 03:53:13,000 Thank you. 1619 03:53:33,000 --> 03:53:43,000 Thank you. 1620 03:54:03,000 --> 03:54:13,000 Thank you. 1621 03:54:33,000 --> 03:54:43,000 Thank you. 1622 03:55:03,000 --> 03:55:13,000 Thank you. 1623 03:55:33,000 --> 03:55:43,000 Thank you. 1624 03:56:03,000 --> 03:56:13,000 Thank you. 1625 03:56:33,000 --> 03:56:43,000 Thank you. 1626 03:57:03,000 --> 03:57:13,000 Thank you. 1627 03:57:33,000 --> 03:57:43,000 Thank you. 1628 03:58:03,000 --> 03:58:13,000 Thank you. 1629 03:58:33,000 --> 03:58:43,000 Thank you. 1630 03:59:03,000 --> 03:59:13,000 Thank you. 1631 03:59:33,000 --> 03:59:59,000 Thank you. 1632 04:45:30,000 --> 04:45:40,000 Thank you. 1633 04:46:00,000 --> 04:46:02,000 You