1 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:51,440 The special meeting, Tuesday, September 1, 2025. Call this meeting to order. Do you have a quorum? And the first thing on the agenda is the citizen comments and I have one. The end of the day. 2 00:01:52,380 --> 00:01:55,740 I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 3 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:01,480 Let's be prepared for a micro-trograph. 4 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,760 I'm a little suspiciously Edward Vaughn. 5 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,300 And his aslids written in Joe Ford, 6 00:02:10,940 --> 00:02:15,860 as I've seen those deviled and so troubled, 7 00:02:15,860 --> 00:02:23,520 I want to say, Bob, we humbly ask that you grant us the heart and mind the joe, remind 8 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:30,540 us of our hope and commitment to the taxpayers of Seedra and help us to see pandas each 9 00:02:30,540 --> 00:02:36,680 other's differences as we work together as one governing body for the betterment of Seedra. 10 00:02:37,180 --> 00:02:37,760 Amen. 11 00:03:39,220 --> 00:03:45,720 I did a timeline where I had a conversation and I told him that I had a time and I thought it could be a two-week 12 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:51,040 or a two-week timeline and he told me he would be tired, but he wanted me to do it all in the end. 13 00:03:53,270 --> 00:03:58,270 I made him to read that and so I told him I was going to do a website where he said to something like that 14 00:03:58,270 --> 00:03:59,410 and he wanted me to read it. 15 00:04:00,130 --> 00:04:00,750 It's a marathon. 16 00:04:01,250 --> 00:04:04,990 If you want to have a movie or you want to see a website and they see that I made everyone 17 00:04:04,990 --> 00:04:08,830 without going to change it, I got some online push to make. 18 00:04:08,830 --> 00:04:15,220 I want to do about that before he goes under the name of the office, um, really want to 19 00:04:15,220 --> 00:04:15,880 follow his name. 20 00:04:18,140 --> 00:04:18,460 Thank you. 21 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:18,740 You did. 22 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,600 I had a number four. 23 00:04:24,100 --> 00:04:29,240 Eric, are we not talking about something real quick about what Dee was discussing. 24 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,520 I talked about it yesterday. 25 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,140 I visited about trying to put together a workshop budget. 26 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:42,320 And he said that he was going to talk to you about posting an agenda today for the, uh, the 27 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:46,640 to tamp them a bit, but they'd be tamping the 15th in one agenda. 28 00:04:48,380 --> 00:04:52,980 Missing that today, that's now set, that's now set at us back quite a bit. 29 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,220 Let me get my calendar open here, everybody got that agenda put up today. 30 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:07,200 We could have gotten the 8th, 10th, 15th, that's really, you can't stop me, sir, the 8th. 31 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,800 Yeah, that's it, that's it, sir. 32 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:15,800 Yeah, I don't know for some, I would do you like to talk about that? 33 00:05:16,940 --> 00:05:19,920 I think that we must be able to stay still. 34 00:05:24,530 --> 00:05:33,670 Okay, so now that we've missed today's date, and it was just a proposal to you, but it is important. 35 00:05:34,950 --> 00:05:40,170 Now that we're on the second tomorrow, if you can get that out, three days is going to 36 00:05:40,170 --> 00:05:42,810 put us on a labor day, which is going to put us on the table. 37 00:05:44,490 --> 00:05:53,490 I would ask did you please put it on the table out tomorrow and get us on the 9th, get us 38 00:05:53,490 --> 00:06:01,680 on the 11th and then possibly we may need the 14th and if that agenda could come out tomorrow 39 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:09,100 on the second look at each other. Now I'm done. I think I need to work on 40 00:06:11,780 --> 00:06:14,340 those 20.6.7 41 00:06:14,340 --> 00:06:17,280 fiscal. So this was on the agenda. 42 00:06:28,770 --> 00:06:31,870 It's on the agenda. It's on the agenda. Here we are 43 00:06:34,730 --> 00:06:42,230 I've had some discussions with Mayor about this and I've got what Mayor about it and 44 00:06:42,230 --> 00:06:51,310 the CCA humor for some of you and you know y'all in the past had this sort of preliminary 45 00:06:51,310 --> 00:06:56,870 vote on taking action to pass a proposed budget. 46 00:06:57,390 --> 00:07:00,250 That's different from actually adopting budget. 47 00:07:00,250 --> 00:07:07,690 You know, the adoption of the budget is what has to happen in my particular month after you have a budget here. 48 00:07:08,810 --> 00:07:21,190 You all have your proposed budget thought that you can have a sort of a vote preliminary down on a proposed budget, still calling it a proposed budget. 49 00:07:21,190 --> 00:07:39,130 And, you know, they've done this in the past, and I think the reason why they did it in the past really is just to make sure that the mayor of some budget officer has gotten all the relevant info that all council members may want to provide to the mayor for finalizing that 50 00:07:47,150 --> 00:07:54,750 It doesn't need to be gone, it's not an equally necessary step to take action and pass 51 00:07:54,750 --> 00:08:00,350 it or publish it, which requires these passing classes, but again, that's had to be gone. 52 00:08:00,870 --> 00:08:05,390 And I don't know whether y'all are equipped at this point to really have a discussion about 53 00:08:07,830 --> 00:08:15,110 So, with those reflections, it's up to you all, but decide I want to see you as a agenda. 54 00:08:15,990 --> 00:08:21,330 Okay. Well, I'm just, you know, I raised concerns today regarding the proposed budget. 55 00:08:21,730 --> 00:08:26,590 It was properly filed under local government code 102.0 verified. 56 00:08:26,590 --> 00:08:34,170 But the city attorney has provided response, explaining the legal position that fire is out as well as that statute. 57 00:08:35,330 --> 00:08:39,830 I do have some guilt in some and they will be addressed in the future. 58 00:08:40,750 --> 00:08:48,990 So this doesn't happen again, but I'm willing to rely on his advice for a limited purpose of recognizing that the legalist budget gets fired. 59 00:08:51,970 --> 00:09:00,830 I don't think we need to pass the proposed budget, it's simple, we have it filed, that 60 00:09:00,830 --> 00:09:02,590 is the proposed budget period. 61 00:09:03,990 --> 00:09:09,950 What I do think we need to do immediately is, in this discussion, it's set the days for 62 00:09:09,950 --> 00:09:10,490 the workshops, 63 00:09:13,420 --> 00:09:20,680 and the hearing, yep, and we need to set the days for each one of these 64 00:09:20,680 --> 00:09:22,980 since we're on item three within the budget, 65 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,240 but it's set the date for the workshops and the budget key. 66 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,720 I understand later that you can contact with the RAID 67 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,460 and it's scheduled to go out on Wednesday. 68 00:09:33,700 --> 00:09:34,460 That's correct. 69 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,500 OK, so how long after it's published, 70 00:09:38,940 --> 00:09:40,300 do we have to have a get it? 71 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:42,060 So we know it. 72 00:09:45,060 --> 00:09:46,820 The hearing notice publication, 73 00:09:46,820 --> 00:09:51,320 According to local measurement, 1, 2, 0, 0, 6, 5, 74 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,920 must run 10 to 30 days before the general hearing date was chosen. 75 00:09:57,140 --> 00:10:01,360 So if it's published on the 9th, which is the 1st night of the wave, 76 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,480 that means we can have it a 19th or after. 77 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:08,240 And 78 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,900 in the next week, 79 00:10:16,250 --> 00:10:19,710 last week, we were talking about 7 to 3. 80 00:10:19,710 --> 00:10:28,510 We were talking about the 10th to the 30th day when they were based on that, but it's not 81 00:10:29,070 --> 00:10:31,850 that one sort of, that was my understanding. 82 00:10:33,310 --> 00:10:36,050 This has much grown in 10th, 30 days. 83 00:10:36,370 --> 00:10:38,210 Yeah, it can't be sooner. 84 00:10:38,750 --> 00:10:42,510 It can be later than 10 days before it can't be earlier than 30 days. 85 00:10:46,230 --> 00:10:55,490 So the expectation, last year, the story in that conversation was going to have a budget 86 00:10:56,150 --> 00:11:03,950 hearing on the 7th team, then notice was going to be published on 87 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,360 the 7th team, the 7th 88 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:18,080 We've been too late, actually, and so we're aiming to get it published by a second. 89 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:20,200 What? 90 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:30,620 They finally do that this past week for the, for this week, so the way. 91 00:11:31,700 --> 00:11:33,720 Yeah, it's supposed to be gone out this week. 92 00:11:34,500 --> 00:11:34,920 When is it? 93 00:11:35,100 --> 00:11:41,040 So my conditioning, I know she may call on Friday because I talk to time. 94 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:42,260 I mean, today is the public meeting. 95 00:11:42,380 --> 00:11:43,460 That's tomorrow, the second. 96 00:11:46,740 --> 00:11:47,960 And on Friday. 97 00:11:48,460 --> 00:11:49,480 Tomorrow is the second. 98 00:11:49,580 --> 00:11:50,240 Tomorrow is the second. 99 00:11:50,780 --> 00:11:51,600 Yeah, the second. 100 00:11:51,780 --> 00:11:52,120 The second. 101 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:53,000 Yeah. 102 00:11:53,340 --> 00:11:54,160 Yeah, the second. 103 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,260 So, this is totally in line with the discussion that I haven't made. 104 00:11:57,580 --> 00:11:57,880 Yeah. 105 00:11:58,140 --> 00:11:59,940 The real dancing is what we can have. 106 00:12:00,060 --> 00:12:01,540 I won't get ahead of the fan. 107 00:12:03,930 --> 00:12:04,170 Okay. 108 00:12:06,430 --> 00:12:14,730 So we're on sub 10, it's public hearing, it's already been noticed, but I think that 109 00:12:14,730 --> 00:12:22,530 we have very productive meeting the workshop last Tuesday and last Thursday I don't think 110 00:12:22,530 --> 00:12:28,590 that we have productive meeting other than verified numbers and again there if we can get 111 00:12:28,590 --> 00:12:37,250 a agenda posted tomorrow that will give us Monday, on a holiday or a third day of the Tuesday, 112 00:12:37,330 --> 00:12:48,650 the 8th, the 9th, the 11th, and possibly maybe the 15th. I talked about this. I don't 113 00:12:48,650 --> 00:12:57,070 know that we need the 15th. I mean, we may just need the 9th and the 11th. But if there's 114 00:12:57,070 --> 00:13:01,210 something that you need to follow up on. We can even do, we can even do one year before 115 00:13:01,210 --> 00:13:07,530 change of movement. A moment in whatever we need to do to get the budget done. One thing 116 00:13:07,530 --> 00:13:13,250 that we do have to do is we're going to have to vote on the 17th. And if we don't start 117 00:13:13,250 --> 00:13:18,750 getting together collectively as a council, and you're not letting this stuff out, we can't 118 00:13:18,750 --> 00:13:23,410 get together collectively as a council. You know, the 17th is going to show up, and you're 119 00:13:23,410 --> 00:13:27,630 going to hear Dan and say, I'm sorry, we haven't had anything to talk about and I'm possibly 120 00:13:27,630 --> 00:13:32,430 going to vote no. So we need to have workshops with together marijuana. Suggestion is we 121 00:13:32,430 --> 00:13:38,730 get an agenda out tomorrow for three more workshops. Okay. I don't think we have to put that in 122 00:13:38,730 --> 00:13:38,970 about. 123 00:13:47,830 --> 00:13:59,860 Yeah, this new. Okay, so we do. And let's say everybody wants to make a 124 00:13:59,860 --> 00:14:03,600 motion. Well, I think what I think what Renewers talk to is that we have a 125 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:08,380 council meeting on the day we've got we've got a workshop that we can do for 126 00:14:08,380 --> 00:14:16,320 the council meeting. On that day, I think. Just need to call for it. Is there 127 00:14:18,780 --> 00:14:23,320 Any motion that needs to be made on the agenda item? 128 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:30,480 No, we'll move on to item 4. 129 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:36,000 2026 to 2027 to pose that tax rate. 130 00:14:36,540 --> 00:14:44,920 Consider discussing and taking action to adopt a imposed 2026 to 2027 that tax rate. 131 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:54,040 If you look on the first page of the handout, you will see the impact rate that we've received 132 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:59,800 from CCID is 1-8.18. 133 00:15:02,740 --> 00:15:08,140 The motion is not adopted, we cannot adopt until we have a budget. 134 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,200 And that is absolutely correct. 135 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,840 I agree with 0.18, zero.3. 136 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:17,800 You're adopting your budget. 137 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,540 What's your number six, four, five, six, seven, eight. 138 00:15:19,540 --> 00:15:20,700 The point, isn't it? 139 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,020 The debt tax rate was 0.18, is it on sale? 140 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:25,740 0.18, zero. 141 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:27,740 I'll give you a second. 142 00:15:27,740 --> 00:15:27,800 All right. 143 00:15:29,540 --> 00:15:32,260 In this, there's a second name of that. 144 00:15:32,740 --> 00:15:34,080 All of the favourites say aye. 145 00:15:35,420 --> 00:15:36,860 All opposed, like so. 146 00:15:38,500 --> 00:15:39,480 I don't know. 147 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:44,060 All right. 148 00:15:44,260 --> 00:15:49,340 2026, the 2027 proposed maintenance and operation, MNO, 149 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:50,080 Tech-Rade. 150 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:55,260 Consider us to approve of taking the action to adopt the proposed MNO 151 00:15:55,260 --> 00:15:56,120 action rate. 152 00:15:56,660 --> 00:15:58,380 And you'll go for your chart. 153 00:15:58,380 --> 00:16:05,300 The one that we've received was 0.5078, was what the county gave us. 154 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:11,280 I'm not sure to be in group, but not adopt 0.5078. 155 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:12,860 I'm going to talk to you again. 156 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:13,900 I get a second. 157 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:15,480 I get a second. 158 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:17,580 In three seconds. 159 00:16:17,940 --> 00:16:18,840 I'm going to say hi. 160 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:19,140 No. 161 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:19,580 I don't want to. 162 00:16:19,980 --> 00:16:21,280 All opposed by time. 163 00:16:22,020 --> 00:16:23,120 Most of the best. 164 00:16:24,460 --> 00:16:32,380 Agenda item number 6, accrued total at rates 256, that's the total of the maintenance 165 00:16:32,380 --> 00:16:40,100 of the human honor and the debt tax rate, which brings us to 0.6881, and that is the 166 00:16:40,100 --> 00:16:41,780 and only revenue tax rate. 167 00:16:42,460 --> 00:16:48,580 I'm motionally accepting only a revenue tax rate at 0.6881. 168 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:50,120 Second. 169 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:50,960 I'll say. 170 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:52,640 In three seconds. 171 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:54,400 All five say aye. 172 00:16:55,540 --> 00:16:56,100 All of those. 173 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:56,640 My turn. 174 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:58,040 Motion passed. 175 00:17:06,060 --> 00:17:06,260 All right. 176 00:17:06,460 --> 00:17:08,300 So the next two items. 177 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:14,380 We found that we don't have to actually bring these to you. 178 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:24,300 I mean, I think it's probably a good idea for the all to make sure that everybody knows 179 00:17:24,300 --> 00:17:31,560 what to do about the budget and about the tax rates because, you know, there's a requirement 180 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,500 for more than simple maturity for some of these folks. 181 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:40,900 And so we want to make sure I think that they all are all driven on what the days are. 182 00:17:40,900 --> 00:17:47,180 But, I mean, strictly speaking, the mayor can just issue the notice in the meeting where that's going to be paid at all. 183 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:54,660 Well, you also must have published a mail at least seven days before it taxed rate for the option date, so we want to make sure there isn't that. 184 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:55,040 Yeah. 185 00:17:56,120 --> 00:18:01,780 So, that's another good reason for reading when you all want to do this. 186 00:18:01,780 --> 00:18:17,160 but this physical budget is that something that can be addressed on 17 because we passed over, we didn't, we didn't adopt, we didn't accept, we didn't do anything on item number three. 187 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:25,220 Yeah, yes, and so no budgets have been adopted in the code says under one or two 188 00:18:25,220 --> 00:18:30,340 well they said they had a timely and an outcome of the budget adoption follows the public care. 189 00:18:31,420 --> 00:18:32,620 Right, you can't. 190 00:18:32,780 --> 00:18:33,160 You're 191 00:18:38,850 --> 00:18:43,630 an agency last year, they actually did it all according to what I'm saying. 192 00:18:43,850 --> 00:18:48,910 Well, when I understand it and I want what I want, what I want to understand is yesterday 193 00:18:48,910 --> 00:18:50,410 and Bob and Bob are talking something 194 00:18:50,410 --> 00:18:51,830 that may be about the sledgehammer. 195 00:18:52,330 --> 00:18:54,030 Bob pulled out last year's agenda. 196 00:18:54,650 --> 00:18:57,630 Okay, just because for a problem of last year's agenda 197 00:18:57,630 --> 00:19:00,450 doesn't mean that we're following the right agenda by all. 198 00:19:01,790 --> 00:19:06,710 So it may have been improperly adopted last year. 199 00:19:07,150 --> 00:19:08,750 And if we follow that same mirror, 200 00:19:09,110 --> 00:19:11,890 then we follow the same errors we did last year. 201 00:19:12,590 --> 00:19:13,870 And that's my concern. 202 00:19:14,650 --> 00:19:22,230 I can't slow you down, double check the law, not just to sue, because it's the way it was done before. 203 00:19:22,670 --> 00:19:29,670 It is correct that you can have your public hearing immediately after you can adopt the budget. 204 00:19:30,370 --> 00:19:33,330 And then immediately after that, you can adopt the tax rate. 205 00:19:38,510 --> 00:19:44,990 I don't think that the following taxes were this, you know, all the taxes were this, 206 00:19:45,030 --> 00:19:45,690 it's not great. 207 00:19:45,830 --> 00:19:50,070 You can do it immediately after that, but you still have to have a notice that you're 208 00:19:50,070 --> 00:19:51,690 going to do it actually on that date. 209 00:19:53,370 --> 00:19:57,890 You always think, I really think it's nice to have a room because if something comes up 210 00:19:57,890 --> 00:20:03,410 in the public hearing and we want to change the budget, that doesn't leave jobs. 211 00:20:05,070 --> 00:20:09,970 So that is why I was trying to do it all the same over the two times. 212 00:20:10,990 --> 00:20:16,370 And that's why I think Yolanda in the past had these sort of preliminary votes on her 213 00:20:16,370 --> 00:20:17,150 proposed budget. 214 00:20:17,510 --> 00:20:25,410 She makes sure everybody's input has been, I mean, Mr. Reeson's agreement to give some input 215 00:20:25,410 --> 00:20:25,890 on that. 216 00:20:25,890 --> 00:20:30,450 But I would think that that's been hard to release it for a lot of people. 217 00:20:30,750 --> 00:20:33,210 What it built these extra steps in. 218 00:20:33,530 --> 00:20:36,590 I do not see there's any legality here. 219 00:20:36,870 --> 00:20:39,190 It's just not necessary. 220 00:20:39,930 --> 00:20:46,290 But it might work as much as the work shots out to work all the way out. 221 00:20:47,290 --> 00:20:49,410 Hopefully the work would be 222 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:52,100 best. 223 00:20:52,660 --> 00:20:54,340 Yes, they have that extra step. 224 00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:59,560 So now what do you want to do? 225 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:06,900 Well, I mean, I mean, I mean, we're going to go, we're going to go four on a set of teams. 226 00:21:06,900 --> 00:21:12,320 I'm still going to have to put my ducks on record that we didn't, we don't have an adopted 227 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:12,840 budget. 228 00:21:13,820 --> 00:21:19,640 The code is saying that the timing and the outcome of the budget reduction follows the public 229 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:19,880 hearing. 230 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:25,760 I mean, it's sorry that we've done this in the past this way, but I'm trying to look at the 231 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:25,940 law. 232 00:21:25,940 --> 00:21:32,180 And I defer, I defer to Bob, Bob, because this is what you guys don't understand, everybody 233 00:21:32,180 --> 00:21:37,120 at this table, if we do something that's down probably wrong, it's budget, we get our 234 00:21:37,120 --> 00:21:44,540 beach individually wildly sent in the future, so that's what I'm doing, so careful. 235 00:21:47,700 --> 00:21:58,540 Okay, so the budget's hearing though, I'm not sure that I'm understanding what the budget hearing on the 236 00:21:58,540 --> 00:22:02,820 and the notice is going in paper for a second. 237 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:06,960 Where's the digital problem? 238 00:22:07,780 --> 00:22:11,500 Well, the problems if you don't have a adopted budget tonight. 239 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,180 Right, you don't adopt the budgets. 240 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,800 The 17th floor after, 241 00:22:22,060 --> 00:22:22,760 yeah. 242 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:30,460 So, I mean, you have a budget here and you do adopt the budget, but you adopt the budget. 243 00:22:30,460 --> 00:22:32,020 Yes, I mean, you can't, you 244 00:22:37,620 --> 00:22:38,160 can't actually 245 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,200 announce the 98 to the next one. 246 00:22:43,060 --> 00:22:45,880 That's, that's, that's what you're talking to, 247 00:22:45,980 --> 00:22:47,040 what you're talking to. 248 00:22:48,220 --> 00:22:50,540 Yeah, the pass rate of the document is, 249 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,720 so that's something that's going to be, 250 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,200 that's going to be just under 251 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:56,980 26th of the whole page line. 252 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:58,440 That's going to be, 253 00:22:58,460 --> 00:22:59,860 that's going to be the end of the month. 254 00:23:03,740 --> 00:23:07,100 Well, we had a discussion with CCID today. 255 00:23:07,100 --> 00:23:17,760 And even though the end of the month is the law, what they said was that it takes, 256 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:25,360 they need to have at least two weeks before that so that they can do what they need 257 00:23:25,360 --> 00:23:29,640 along with the publisher two weeks. 258 00:23:29,980 --> 00:23:35,200 And so during that, that's why they wanted us to go ahead and give these to nine. 259 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:44,640 So this week, they were worried because the involved was talking to Bill about 22nd and 29th and had the loss which fell out. 260 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:58,740 But she was saying that, yes, that's true, but at the same time, we needed earlier so that we get all the stuff in order by the end before the end of the month. 261 00:23:58,740 --> 00:24:02,960 And so she was saying that she needed work as an army. 262 00:24:03,300 --> 00:24:04,900 Their preference is for it to be done earlier. 263 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,820 I mean, I certainly can understand that. 264 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,780 And I would assume that it was an average for some 265 00:24:11,780 --> 00:24:14,920 and budgeting, actually something that the proceeding 266 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,380 should have done has been really impossible. 267 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,940 My inspection was, of course, on making sure 268 00:24:21,940 --> 00:24:23,880 that we need to fill out the last pages. 269 00:24:24,460 --> 00:24:26,080 But at the budget hearing, certainly, 270 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,900 And you know, the city must pay some action on the budget at the end of the year, and that 271 00:24:30,900 --> 00:24:34,580 can be the adoption of a five-bit portfolio of its own financial funding. 272 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:42,440 So at your peer reviews on the 17th, you could vote on the budget on the 17th. 273 00:24:44,860 --> 00:24:55,140 And hopefully, whatever workshops you'll do, if we now then, we'll generate enough consensus 274 00:24:55,140 --> 00:24:56,780 that we all will be able to do that. 275 00:24:56,780 --> 00:25:01,760 Well, I think one of the things that's being taken out of this equation is that we don't have 276 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,960 the public, it's being able to come in and testify to what they want to be. 277 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:12,200 I mean, workshops wouldn't make it work. Right. Is that in your work? Well, my point is on 17th 278 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:20,220 as a public hearing, and if we adopt a physical body tonight, nobody can speak to it on the public hearing 279 00:25:20,220 --> 00:25:25,660 and that's why these things come after the public hearing and after the adoption of this. So, 280 00:25:25,660 --> 00:25:30,900 that the people can come and if they've got agreement, they can speak the agreements. 281 00:25:31,100 --> 00:25:40,640 If we do everything except for the top budget that might, I don't know what they have 282 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,040 to come with public hearing board. 283 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:57,620 I think they played on that piece from the inside of it, but the people should know on the 284 00:25:57,620 --> 00:26:01,700 and they want adopting the budget and adopting the rate. 285 00:26:02,340 --> 00:26:04,940 I love the date of the 17th. 286 00:26:05,020 --> 00:26:06,300 But we're here for the new year. 287 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,920 Yes, that's my 288 00:26:12,020 --> 00:26:13,820 100th. 289 00:26:13,900 --> 00:26:16,340 So this is this stuff that's on the agenda time 290 00:26:16,340 --> 00:26:20,020 and it's stuff that's host adoption. 291 00:26:32,500 --> 00:26:37,430 We have decided that September 2nd and 15th 292 00:26:37,430 --> 00:26:42,470 to be a big day for us to finish up with everything. 293 00:26:47,590 --> 00:26:50,850 And that really definitely has to go for a motion 294 00:26:52,870 --> 00:26:58,990 because legally that's not something that has to be decided 295 00:26:58,990 --> 00:27:03,090 here but set for them 17 is what I'm gonna pick up 296 00:27:03,090 --> 00:27:06,130 just we don't have to go through and have a motion. 297 00:27:06,130 --> 00:27:15,990 Yeah, I mean, the 17th is the date for the budget, you don't have to, not the budget, not the date for it. 298 00:27:19,210 --> 00:27:21,310 But I think, you know, this project is quite interesting. 299 00:27:21,970 --> 00:27:22,930 It might not be a good idea. 300 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:28,920 So, I mean, we can't read. 301 00:27:29,140 --> 00:27:32,200 I mean, we can't adopt that. 302 00:27:32,620 --> 00:27:41,040 This is, I mean, I'm asking you as a city attorney for guidance of number 7 and number 8. 303 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:49,160 do you think, or those things tonight would be necessary to keep our citizens from being 304 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,120 at the Commonwealth in the 17th? 305 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:51,460 Yeah. 306 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,700 Well, to 307 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:05,000 the extent that if you vote on this number 700, set a date on the adoption of 308 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:05,360 the budget. 309 00:28:08,100 --> 00:28:09,040 That's a good point. 310 00:28:09,180 --> 00:28:15,560 That could be problematic because then that says that's really going to adopt and then you 311 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:20,940 You can lose the flexibility that the standards be allowed, that you could adopt the budget after 312 00:28:20,940 --> 00:28:21,280 the year. 313 00:28:22,260 --> 00:28:24,600 That is correct. 314 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:32,710 So why don't we just scratch out those slides, because we said that, right? 315 00:28:33,030 --> 00:28:37,750 If nobody has a motion to make on seven or eight, then we'll just, you know, in that way 316 00:28:37,750 --> 00:28:41,050 more, we go to the workshop, we can discuss that for a little bit more. 317 00:28:43,380 --> 00:28:48,120 I see your issue now, I'm going to say, it's not a legal question, it's more of a policy 318 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,380 You have to have a kind of structure of these things. 319 00:28:50,500 --> 00:28:52,140 Well, it's a representative question, 320 00:28:52,140 --> 00:28:54,680 it's being an all, and I have to look out for my constituents, 321 00:28:55,080 --> 00:29:01,370 so of course, and your perspective is focused on policy aspect, 322 00:29:01,510 --> 00:29:04,290 in my opinion, and my answer is, 323 00:29:04,290 --> 00:29:06,810 legally, you can pass it on the right. 324 00:29:07,290 --> 00:29:09,450 Right, legally, you don't have to. 325 00:29:09,870 --> 00:29:12,550 So, it's a policy decision, yeah, 326 00:29:12,730 --> 00:29:15,030 but I mean, the people that are keeping the city a lot, 327 00:29:15,170 --> 00:29:15,830 we've got out of that. 328 00:29:16,290 --> 00:29:18,970 Yeah, all right, I think you're full. 329 00:29:18,970 --> 00:29:21,510 Okay, so we're going to pass on seven here today. 330 00:29:22,390 --> 00:29:24,230 I don't know if you need to ask anybody. 331 00:29:24,650 --> 00:29:26,610 Is there any vote in the bill seven? 332 00:29:27,530 --> 00:29:29,030 Is there any vote in the bill eight? 333 00:29:31,070 --> 00:29:32,070 Let's move to nine. 334 00:29:32,450 --> 00:29:32,990 Do we need it? 335 00:29:33,150 --> 00:29:33,750 Let's be concerned. 336 00:29:34,610 --> 00:29:36,810 I have an objection that I will. 337 00:29:37,670 --> 00:29:43,090 All these items listed on the executive session to see why I. 338 00:29:43,190 --> 00:29:44,970 I think it needs to be specific. 339 00:29:44,970 --> 00:29:47,270 If you have a plan for executive session, 340 00:29:47,270 --> 00:29:53,190 but not because they're ready to know what it is under these and it's covered not just 341 00:29:53,190 --> 00:29:54,130 of lightening it. 342 00:29:54,150 --> 00:29:55,770 I thought it was my dead potential. 343 00:29:56,270 --> 00:29:57,690 Well, it's not a good thing though. 344 00:29:58,150 --> 00:29:59,930 Well, no, we should slide. 345 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:29,920 Those sections, but you don't just list all of them, because hey, we do not have anything to do with the information. Well, then you move. Well, to speak when there was an anticipation of executive sentiment, it is, I can buy specifics, but it is also a potential to go into the executive sentiment on an item, an immediate agenda, separately, and somehow or another, sometimes, 346 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,780 it might not. And if you don't have them there, there's a bit of discussion might be. 347 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:42,240 So, yeah, because we can, but we can agree that if you want to list it this way, we can 348 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:48,160 not enter them to executive session, just not as simple, but we're going into executive session. 349 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:54,620 That has to, at the point that you say we're going into executive session, you have to say why you're 350 00:30:54,620 --> 00:30:58,800 going into executive session on a bill code that you're going on there before. 351 00:30:59,280 --> 00:30:59,340 Yes. 352 00:30:59,740 --> 00:31:05,060 But just in sympathy, if you're unfamiliar with the practice, at least as I can come up 353 00:31:05,060 --> 00:31:05,660 to you to it. 354 00:31:05,980 --> 00:31:10,440 I know there's going to be an executive session on something I say to you. 355 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:11,380 But it is an agenda. 356 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:12,040 Yeah. 357 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:17,180 So, Barbara, you, I mean, have you had the Texas Attorney General and you know, looks at what 358 00:31:17,180 --> 00:31:20,840 they call the worst rules item that Karen's speaking to? 359 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:21,260 Yeah. 360 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:27,000 specifically, and I agree with what you're saying, we don't know tonight, we may sit here 361 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,340 and something may come up and we need you to say we can go into the active stuff in current 362 00:31:31,340 --> 00:31:36,040 conservation. And if you don't have that listed specifically on the agenda, then go ahead and 363 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:42,380 do that. But it also, there's also a conflicting opinion on the accounting general, it says that we have 364 00:31:42,380 --> 00:31:50,360 it in our agenda. So we'll have to talk about that. It does, we do need to make sure that this one 365 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,320 and we don't want to go into the discussion that it's clearly 366 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:53,420 spoken by them. 367 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,200 You know, can I? 368 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:58,640 Very good. 369 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,040 Go ahead and do me. 370 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:14,740 Go ahead and do me. 371 00:32:15,620 --> 00:32:17,340 I said that citizen comments. 372 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,140 I think we're going to have to go there. 373 00:32:20,260 --> 00:32:23,840 If you want to hear comments from the citizen from citizens, 374 00:32:24,820 --> 00:32:26,820 I don't think I was thinking about it. 375 00:32:26,820 --> 00:32:36,200 Yes. Okay. I just want to put it on. Just to clear our phone. So we've got our standard 376 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:42,820 on the 8. We've got a workshop or a pool on the 8. Because we do have a regular. Yeah, 377 00:32:42,820 --> 00:32:51,660 correct. And then on 9, 11 and 15. Yeah, if we don't, if we do that, and if we don't, 378 00:32:51,660 --> 00:32:52,080 We're in person. 379 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:52,960 Any other things? 380 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,100 Well, I think that was more than a venture. 381 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:55,900 I didn't know. 382 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,200 Well, we can't do it in the summary. 383 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,460 Well, I mean, we don't. 384 00:33:00,460 --> 00:33:01,180 We don't. 385 00:33:01,300 --> 00:33:02,300 Do we have to get in the summary? 386 00:33:02,580 --> 00:33:03,060 Does it end now? 387 00:33:03,380 --> 00:33:04,200 The agenda is not out. 388 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,000 No, no. 389 00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:05,940 I post the summary. 390 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:07,140 I post the summary. 391 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,520 We've got that one session for Solvian. 392 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,160 But you said you had to borrow. 393 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:11,960 Yes. 394 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,360 You had to work shop on that. 395 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,740 That covers this on the page. 396 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:15,880 It's a borrowed. 397 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,860 If you can give another one out, that would cover us for the term. 398 00:33:27,140 --> 00:33:34,040 I mean, I don't know how do you guys, I mean, how do you guys think about the work, do you think about the most? 399 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:44,740 I think, well, the schedule is made as possible, for the 8th, the workshop, we only have like 3 minutes for this morning and that's where we have a lot to get into. 400 00:33:44,740 --> 00:33:44,760 I don't know. 401 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,780 And we don't have it. 402 00:33:46,780 --> 00:33:48,840 It's only and things we need to discuss. 403 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:49,940 I saw it. 404 00:33:49,940 --> 00:33:51,120 They can call it workshop. 405 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,560 Yeah, it can be a 4 billion. 406 00:33:54,020 --> 00:33:54,200 Yes. 407 00:33:54,500 --> 00:33:55,000 I'll see. 408 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:55,740 I'll see. 409 00:33:56,060 --> 00:33:56,260 I'll see. 410 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:57,040 We said, I know. 411 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,160 I know. 412 00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:58,480 It was loud. 413 00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:59,040 That's true. 414 00:33:59,460 --> 00:33:59,720 What? 415 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:01,920 I was just looking. 416 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:02,740 I'm going to show our mine. 417 00:34:03,420 --> 00:34:03,660 OK. 418 00:34:05,830 --> 00:34:06,410 We've been out. 419 00:34:07,150 --> 00:34:09,970 So I guess maybe you could less than week worth of workshops. 420 00:34:10,210 --> 00:34:12,050 I'm going to have a betful okay on the next one. 421 00:34:12,490 --> 00:34:25,210 You can put the nose out on the top and then you can do another nose and do a workshop, and this is a list of the things you can't tell us. 422 00:34:25,710 --> 00:34:28,230 Yeah, and then we get it done, two guys, and they're ready. 423 00:34:28,810 --> 00:34:30,250 Then we're going to have to have the other. 424 00:34:33,590 --> 00:34:36,630 Okay, 7-0-3, I'm like a motion catcher on it. 425 00:34:37,090 --> 00:34:37,570 Motion? 426 00:34:38,090 --> 00:34:41,630 It's 7-0-3, but may, but all within a bridge. 427 00:34:42,390 --> 00:34:42,610 Second. 428 00:34:43,350 --> 00:34:43,770 Oh, there. 429 00:34:44,330 --> 00:34:45,550 And 3-0-2. 430 00:34:45,730 --> 00:34:45,950 Seconded. 431 00:34:46,150 --> 00:34:46,850 All in favor for that? 432 00:34:47,270 --> 00:34:47,670 Aye. 433 00:34:47,970 --> 00:34:48,110 Aye. 434 00:34:48,630 --> 00:34:49,710 All opposed by time. 435 00:34:54,550 --> 00:34:55,410 Let's show it all.