1 00:06:42,639 --> 00:06:50,880 I'm Mayor Muhammad Egalo, mayor of city of CAG. It's 6 p.m. here in Western 2 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:58,160 Washington, July 28, 2026. I'm calling to order for CAG 3 00:06:54,720 --> 00:07:01,120 city council uh meeting. Uh, Christina, will you take the roll 4 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,039 call, please? >> Mayor Muhammad Eagle 5 00:07:02,479 --> 00:07:06,960 » here. >> Council members Caitlyn Ca here. Peter 6 00:07:05,919 --> 00:07:08,800 Quan, >> I'm here. 7 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,919 » And Joe Benson, >> present. 8 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:17,919 » And we have excused absent Deputy Mayor Site Nagusi. Council members James 9 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:21,280 Levelvel and Badria Abdulahi. >> All right. Okay. So, let's salute the 10 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,840 flag. >> And I'm not sure that we have a flag in 11 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:31,000 here. >> We we trust Abra. 12 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:31,000 » Yeah. Okay. Oh, look there. Yes. 13 00:07:59,759 --> 00:08:12,319 The first an item in the agenda is um the pro and con committee um agenda 14 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:18,720 bill 6969 a motion and and to appoint for uh members 15 00:08:14,639 --> 00:08:26,319 uh statement for or against. As of today, the city has not received it any 16 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:31,680 one interesting in pro or con and the city our city manager has the full 17 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:39,120 authority to appointed if someone is interesting to be appointed for the next 18 00:08:33,919 --> 00:08:44,919 few and days. Uh the next item will be comment uh public comment. Do do we have 19 00:08:41,919 --> 00:08:44,919 committees? 20 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:52,240 » I don't have a sheet. I'm sorry. There is. Okay. 21 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:54,880 » If anyone wanted to make a comment, uh he or she will. 22 00:08:53,200 --> 00:09:00,959 » Lisa is trying to grab it. We do not have anybody remote or um or written. 23 00:08:59,279 --> 00:09:04,040 We're just waiting for the sheet. >> All right. 24 00:09:27,680 --> 00:09:33,760 Sorry about that. Looks like a um Dr. Ted Clark. 25 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:40,000 » Ted, >> welcome. You will have three minutes. 26 00:09:35,839 --> 00:09:44,640 The podium is here. Uh someone show the Mr. Clark on how to use the microphone 27 00:09:42,959 --> 00:09:50,160 and you will have three beautiful minutes. Thank you, sir. You're welcome. 28 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:56,720 » Okay. Good evening, mayor, council members. I represent Culture Generation. 29 00:09:53,120 --> 00:10:01,440 I'm a board member. Uh, I'm here tonight to provide a brief update regarding 30 00:09:59,519 --> 00:10:07,279 unresolved matters between Culture Generation and Seattle Southside 31 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:13,839 Regional Tourism Authority concerning Culture Generation's World Table 32 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:19,600 Trademark Program, name, and brand. As a 501c3 nonprofit organization entrusted 33 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:25,120 with public funding, Culture Generation is committed to to complete 34 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:30,560 transparency. Our responsibility is to ensure that the public understands how 35 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:36,079 these resources are being used and the impact they create for the communities. 36 00:10:33,279 --> 00:10:41,920 World Table trademark was developed in September 2025 based on a culmination of 37 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:47,279 20 years of experience and knowledge as a cultural tourism and storytelling 38 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:52,480 telling program created by culture generation to connect the public with 39 00:10:50,399 --> 00:10:57,760 immigrant bipok and underserved communities through cultural experience 40 00:10:54,959 --> 00:11:02,959 and community partnership. As part of these matters, addressing 41 00:11:00,399 --> 00:11:09,040 these matters, we are seeking clarity regarding how SSRTA became aware of 42 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:14,399 Culture Generations World Table trademark program, name, and brand in 43 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:19,600 2025, as well as questions 44 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:24,800 related to statements presented to city council in November 2024 regarding 45 00:11:22,399 --> 00:11:31,519 Culture Generations tours, programs, and funding for the 2025 and 2026 culinary 46 00:11:29,279 --> 00:11:37,440 tourism work. There may have been confusion regarding Culture Generations 47 00:11:34,399 --> 00:11:42,560 affiliation with SSRTA's International Dining District Program 48 00:11:39,839 --> 00:11:46,959 because of certain statements made to members of city council in November 49 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:53,279 2024. It is our contention that SSRTA 50 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:58,959 incorrectly created false association between SSRTA 51 00:11:55,839 --> 00:12:05,680 and cultured generation in order for SSRTA to be awarded contracts for its 52 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:13,360 international Dining District program for 2025 and 2026. 53 00:12:09,519 --> 00:12:17,600 SSRTA disputes this contention and our respective lawyers are addressing this 54 00:12:16,079 --> 00:12:23,440 matter. My purpose in coming here tonight is not 55 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:29,680 to discuss legal matters but to emphasize transpar transparency and 56 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:34,959 honesty with public funding requiring absolutely 57 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:41,120 um accuracy in representing and respect for the community. Culture Generation is 58 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:48,720 in the process of discussing its disputes regarding Culture Generation's 59 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:54,639 World Table brand in program with SSRTA. Questions about this dispute can be 60 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:59,200 fielded by our legal council Tim Bilick. Culture Generation is focused on 61 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:04,079 advancing equity. >> The three minutes is up. 62 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:09,680 » I've got I've got one sentence. Can I finish? 63 00:13:06,399 --> 00:13:12,800 Okay. Thank Okay. >> We we have rules that we cannot go more 64 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:16,240 than three minutes. >> I just have one. 65 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:19,120 » Thank you very much. I just submit your written statement to the city cler. 66 00:13:18,639 --> 00:13:23,680 » Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you, sir. All right. Um the next 67 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:28,320 item in the [clears throat] agenda will be uh because we didn't have watch so I 68 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:33,600 was wondering within 30. Yeah. So next time we will 69 00:13:30,399 --> 00:13:38,959 have watch on the on the wall. Okay. To be fair to all all all be uh the next 70 00:13:36,639 --> 00:13:43,360 item will be recitation from four actually emergency management awareness 71 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:50,399 month proclamation. It will be five minutes and it will be delivered by not 72 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:53,760 other than council member. >> Thank you Mr. Mayor. Oo sorry. 73 00:13:52,514 --> 00:13:58,000 [laughter] Let's try this again. Uh thank you Mr. 74 00:13:56,160 --> 00:14:02,639 Mayor. This is the emergency management awareness month proclamation. 75 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:06,959 Whereas emergencies and disasters can occur unexpectedly posing significant 76 00:14:04,959 --> 00:14:12,320 threats to life, property, and the environment within the city of SeaTac. 77 00:14:09,519 --> 00:14:16,000 And whereas emergency managers locally and across all sectors, community 78 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:21,839 leaders, local governments, and the Federal Emergency Management Agency, aka 79 00:14:18,959 --> 00:14:25,680 FEMA, dedicate countless hours to developing preparedness, response, 80 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:30,959 recovery, and mitigation programs to protect the lives and property of all 81 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:36,480 persons living within the United States, United States territories, Washington 82 00:14:33,519 --> 00:14:41,920 state, and the city of SeaTac. And whereas emergency managers across the 83 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:45,839 state of Washington are charged with establishing and maintaining the 84 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:50,320 capabilities necessary to effectively direct, coordinate, and support 85 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:55,680 emergency and disaster response and recovery efforts. And whereas the 86 00:14:53,040 --> 00:15:01,360 mission areas of prevention, protection, mitigation, response, and recovery align 87 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:07,199 with the core capabilities identified in the national preparedness goal. And 88 00:15:03,839 --> 00:15:12,240 whereas the emergency managers serve the nation by responding to countless 89 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:17,040 emergencies and disasters each year, demonstrating commitment, compassion, 90 00:15:14,639 --> 00:15:22,800 and professionalism in protecting the public. And whereas the efforts of our 91 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:27,760 nation's emergency managers have helped millions of community members across the 92 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:31,839 United States recover, rebuild, and become more resilient in the face of 93 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:37,680 adversity. Now, I therefore, Muhammad E Gaul, mayor 94 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:41,920 of the city of SeaTac, this is actually council member Joe Vincent. On behalf of 95 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:46,480 Mary G, on behalf of the city council, do hereby proclaim the month of August 96 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:51,120 as National Emergency Management Awareness Month in the city of SeaTac in 97 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:56,399 conjunction with the National Preparedness Month in September 98 00:15:54,320 --> 00:16:00,240 with the support of the International Association of Emergency Managers, the 99 00:15:58,959 --> 00:16:05,440 National Emergency Management Association, and the Washington State 100 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:09,680 Emergency Management Association. I urge all community members to express their 101 00:16:07,519 --> 00:16:14,800 sincere appreciation for emergency managers in every sector who work 102 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:19,279 diligently to prepare, protect, and serve our cities, counties, states, 103 00:16:16,959 --> 00:16:24,880 tribes, territories, regions, and organizations against all hazards and 104 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:31,240 risk. Given under my hand and the seal of the city of SeaTac on this 28th day 105 00:16:27,279 --> 00:16:31,240 of July, 2026. 106 00:16:37,839 --> 00:16:42,880 This one is clearly different. We'll take two minutes or three minutes to 107 00:16:41,199 --> 00:16:43,680 take pictures with Mr. Luga and his team. 108 00:16:43,279 --> 00:16:46,839 » Yes. >> Thank you. 109 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,720 I know. 110 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,480 I'll be a second. 111 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,240 One, two, 112 00:17:54,960 --> 00:18:03,919 All right. Um we back. Um the next item in the agenda will be 2026 parks 113 00:18:01,039 --> 00:18:10,000 recreation and open spaces plan update. It will be 40 minutes and it will led by 114 00:18:07,120 --> 00:18:16,080 pros consulting incorporate principal consultant Brian Trust and 115 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:22,320 and yes go ahead. >> Uh good evening mayor and council 116 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:28,880 members. Um so uh as mayor you just said it's the 2026 parks recreation open 117 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:35,440 space plan update and um what we're going to be listening to today is a 118 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:40,720 recreation program plan um update on that component of the plan. So there are 119 00:18:37,919 --> 00:18:45,520 multiple facets of this plan. Um this is just one piece and please welcome Brian 120 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:51,520 Trusty who is the principal for Pros Consulting Inc. 121 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:56,679 Thank you, Mary. Let me take just a moment and pull up 122 00:18:53,360 --> 00:18:56,679 the presentation. 123 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:05,679 All right, that work. Is that sharing properly? 124 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:09,440 Excellent. Mayor, members of the council, thank you very much for having 125 00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:13,360 me this evening. It's my pleasure to be in front of you that to share you with 126 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:17,360 you an update of where we are with the parks, recreation, and open span open 127 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:21,360 space plan update for the city of SeaTac. We've been hard at work for the 128 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:25,120 last we have a lot of exciting things to 129 00:19:22,799 --> 00:19:28,880 share with you. Go into some of the things that we've learned so far. I want 130 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:32,480 just as a quick reminder about what this plan is about and what we're trying to 131 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:36,799 accomplish with it. So, this is a plan that is absolutely found very robust, 132 00:19:35,039 --> 00:19:40,160 accessible, and inclusive community engagement. We have a number of 133 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:44,240 community engagement things that are happening as we speak that we'll talk 134 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:48,320 about. We've also had a number of other uh activities that have already occurred 135 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:52,960 including many interviews and focus groups including all of you. This is not 136 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:57,120 our plan. This is your plan. This is the plan for the the residents and community 137 00:19:54,799 --> 00:20:01,360 members of CATAC. So certainly want to make sure that we are wellounded in 138 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:04,720 strong community engagement and the findings that come from that. We also 139 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:10,240 want to make sure that this is a plan that represents some equitable uh equity 140 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:14,240 across the community that people have the opportunity and the access to 141 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:18,880 participate in a variety of dynamic recreation experiences to experience 142 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:22,559 wonderful worldclass parks no matter where they live or what their uh 143 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:26,480 backgrounds may be. We want to make sure we build this in data and best practices 144 00:20:24,799 --> 00:20:31,360 not only from across the region in the Puet Sound but state of Washington and 145 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:35,600 nationally that we really recognize too that the city's park system is also one 146 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:39,760 of your largest footprints of green infrastructure. So thinking about our 147 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:44,480 park system through that lens as well and not just as a recreational asset, 148 00:20:42,159 --> 00:20:49,120 but also setting up the organization and the city for financial resiliency, 149 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:53,200 organizational excellence, and having a dynamic and realistic action plan at the 150 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:57,760 end that is the right thoughtful blend of things that are realistic, but that 151 00:20:55,280 --> 00:21:00,400 also are aspirational. There are a lot of things that go into this plan. I'm 152 00:20:59,360 --> 00:21:04,080 not going to read through all of this, but we've talked a little bit about all 153 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:08,000 the public and stakeholder engagement that really understanding where you are 154 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:11,280 today in your current system, the the conditions of your parks, of your 155 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:16,159 facilities, facilities like this one which are a part of that network. Really 156 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:19,840 also how uh this plan speaks to the goals and connectivity around the 157 00:21:18,159 --> 00:21:23,919 community and the right levels of service. Benchmarking against other 158 00:21:21,919 --> 00:21:27,200 communities of similar nature and as well as those that may have more 159 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:30,159 aspirational aspects to them. understanding where you are in your 160 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:33,600 recreational programs, the de demographics of the community, where 161 00:21:31,679 --> 00:21:38,320 that's going in the next 10 years, and how that fits into the community, the 162 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:42,960 city's overall development priorities. It really is a three-step process of 163 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:47,280 understanding where we are today, doing a lot of thorough assessments that we've 164 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:50,799 have some findings for today. Tonight we'll share with you getting to the more 165 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:54,960 exciting part of the plan which we call the ideiation phase or where we're going 166 00:21:52,799 --> 00:22:00,080 tomorrow really developing those strategies that put CEK in a proactive 167 00:21:57,679 --> 00:22:04,000 position uh moving forward over the next 5 to 10 years and then the 168 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:08,080 implementation phase which is how we get there 169 00:22:05,919 --> 00:22:13,360 just to get good sense of where we are in the pro this is a nine-month process 170 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:18,159 that began really in earnest in March uh and so we are on track to complete the 171 00:22:15,919 --> 00:22:22,640 complete the plan and be back with you. Uh will be in front of you before then 172 00:22:20,159 --> 00:22:26,240 too with additional findings. But for uh review and final adoption by the end of 173 00:22:24,559 --> 00:22:31,039 the calendar year. So you can see that dark red line running vertically. We're 174 00:22:28,799 --> 00:22:34,799 a little bit or almost halfway. We're not quite halfway, but we are on track 175 00:22:33,039 --> 00:22:39,520 with all the various tasks that you see running down the left side of the screen 176 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:43,360 that are involved in the process. So there's a number of analyses in our 177 00:22:41,679 --> 00:22:47,039 scope of work that we are working through. Of course, community engagement 178 00:22:45,039 --> 00:22:51,039 occurs throughout that, but we started off first with a SWAT analysis with 179 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:54,240 staff and other stakeholders, understanding where you are from a 180 00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:59,120 demographics and recreational trends perspective as a community, conditions 181 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:03,280 of your sites and facilities, how your parks are classified, the levels of 182 00:23:01,039 --> 00:23:07,840 service, doing a lot of GIS analysis, looking at proximity of PE, the 183 00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:11,760 10-minute walk shed to parks, recreation program analysis, prioritization, a 184 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:15,280 capital improvement plan, uh implementation strategies, and funding. 185 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:19,840 and revenue strategies will complete our scope of work. 186 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:23,840 As I mentioned, a robust and accessible community engagement process is at the 187 00:23:21,679 --> 00:23:28,240 heart of this plan. So, as you can see, we are engaging in a number of different 188 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:31,919 methodologies here. So, we've started off the process with key stakeholder 189 00:23:30,159 --> 00:23:37,039 interviews and focus groups. Those will continue as we move through the process 190 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:41,600 and we have findings that will also inform additional questions that we may 191 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:46,320 may want to ask key stakeholder groups. We've had one public workshop already on 192 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:50,799 the 25th of March. We have the second of three tomorrow night here in this 193 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:55,039 building. We have initiated statistically valid surveys. I hear one 194 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:59,600 of your very own has already received one in her household. So, uh that's a 195 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:03,600 process that's ongoing as we speak. I'll talk a little bit more as we go along in 196 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:08,559 this presentation about that. We have a project website that also includes an 197 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:13,600 online survey that's a mirror image of the statistically valid survey and and 198 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:17,360 provides also a GI interactive GIS mapping tool. Members of the community 199 00:24:15,279 --> 00:24:24,080 can get in and drop specific comments in specific locations around town. 200 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:29,840 So what have we obviously you're a community that's a very unique in its 201 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:35,279 and nature you are experiencing slow but steady growth. um you are landlocked so 202 00:24:32,799 --> 00:24:40,720 you have a lot of growth uh issues and growth oftentimes resulted in density in 203 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:45,120 the community that al has implications around trails and parks. You have a 204 00:24:43,279 --> 00:24:48,640 large presence of families with children and I'll show a slide here in a minute 205 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:51,840 that looking at some of the age segmentation 206 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:56,880 across you're a community that's growing only 207 00:24:53,520 --> 00:25:01,520 slowly. You're diversifying much faster. So, you are a community of already great 208 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:05,600 diversity. Um, and that is continuing to grow as is projected to grow over the 209 00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:09,360 next 10 to 15 years. And one of the more unique things about your park system in 210 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:14,720 particular, but it also, I'm sure, impacts all public infrastructure that 211 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:19,520 you manage is the massive impact from non-resident users and transient users. 212 00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:24,000 So, just from the airport alone, you have over a hundred unique visitors a 213 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:27,200 day. But you it's not just those transient visitors that are impacting 214 00:25:25,679 --> 00:25:31,760 your parks and trails system in particular. You have some very popular 215 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:35,840 facilities. This this one in which we're here this evening included that are 216 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:39,039 popular in the region. And so they gain they they attract a lot of 217 00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:43,360 non-residential uses from neighboring communities such as Burian and Tuckila 218 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:47,120 and Bzmoines. And so that's something to take into account as we think about the 219 00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:52,720 park the future of the park system and how the city of SeaTac can manage with 220 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:57,679 that in mind. So here's a couple of demographic slides 221 00:25:54,960 --> 00:26:01,039 that probably is a a recap of things you already know very well. But as you can 222 00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:06,640 see on the left side as we look at age segmentations and the two largest age 223 00:26:03,679 --> 00:26:11,200 segments are the gray area which is 18 to 34 and the yellow area which is 35 to 224 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:15,120 54. That tells us you have a lot of young adults. You have a lot of young 225 00:26:13,279 --> 00:26:18,559 families and middle-aged folks that are living here. Not to overshadow the 226 00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:22,720 importance of the needs of everyone else on this age segment scale, but that is 227 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:27,120 generally what we're seeing as a trend in in your community when it comes to 228 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:30,799 age segmentation. And that is a that is a those are segments of the population 229 00:26:28,799 --> 00:26:35,360 that are going to continue to be fairly steady as we move through the next 10, 230 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:40,159 15, and 20 years. And then, as you can see on the slide on the right, uh your 231 00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:45,440 city's population by race and how that has rapidly and uh diversified even 232 00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:49,840 since the 2010 census. [snorts] and continues to be to project to be 233 00:26:47,679 --> 00:26:53,440 diversifying as you move forward. This is going to be critical as you think 234 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:57,919 about your recreation program offerings. Uh you are already on top of this as a 235 00:26:55,520 --> 00:27:01,360 city as you make so much of your uh information available in multiple 236 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:05,919 languages including the statistically valid survey that we sent out associated 237 00:27:03,279 --> 00:27:10,000 with this project. I mentioned we had a public meeting on 238 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:13,520 uh March the 25th. It was right here in this room. It was very well attended. 239 00:27:11,919 --> 00:27:18,240 Some of you may have also been there that evening. So, we had we shared a a 240 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:22,559 lot about what this plan was. We also opened it up to the floor for general 241 00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:27,440 Q&A from members of the public. And then we had several activity tables around 242 00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:30,400 the back of the room that as we um broke out of a more present formal 243 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:34,400 presentation style, folks could gravitate towards various tables that 244 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:38,720 reflect their interest and provide some additional comments and insights. So 245 00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:43,064 some of the things the headlines that we learned early on and from that first 246 00:27:40,799 --> 00:27:47,440 meeting was the need to update [clears throat] and improve this center. 247 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:51,679 This center interestingly enough was created um almost right after the 248 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:56,480 formation of the city of SeaTac itself. So it it tracks at about 40 years old 249 00:27:54,320 --> 00:28:00,880 about the same age as the city itself which also is a reflection of how 250 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:04,799 important recreation is to this community as this was one of the first 251 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,799 major infrastructure projects the city invested in. 252 00:28:06,644 --> 00:28:10,240 » [snorts] >> As we mentioned about the importance of 253 00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:13,760 the green infrastructure of your park system, thinking about the tree canopy, 254 00:28:12,559 --> 00:28:17,520 that's come up from a lot of stakeholders. And of course, a lot of 255 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:23,000 that is contained within parks and and greenways. The importance of adaptive 256 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,000 and inclusivities 257 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:30,240 like playgrounds and sport courts. The importance of safety and the perception 258 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:34,000 of safety. Improved trails that offer continued protection against vehicular 259 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:38,559 traffic. is this this is a community that continues to increase in density 260 00:28:36,159 --> 00:28:42,399 that will become more important. Improving community awareness about 261 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:46,720 events and programs and offerings that are out there, additional adult 262 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:51,039 programming, additional preschool and family programming and the importance of 263 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:55,120 arts and culture programming in parks and in of course the recreation 264 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:59,279 portfolio itself. We had an interesting exercise in one of 265 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:03,600 those activity tables where we gave folks 10 coins and we asked them to 266 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:08,000 distribute it across these six different priorities as how they would like to see 267 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:11,760 public funding uh invested within the city of SeaTac. And we gave them the 268 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:15,919 options of developing new parks and trails, improving existing parks and 269 00:29:13,679 --> 00:29:20,080 trails, improving existing recreation facilities, developing new programs, 270 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:24,399 developing new recreation facilities, and improving existing programs. As you 271 00:29:22,559 --> 00:29:28,640 can see how folks voted on that one particular exercise. That's just one 272 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:32,720 data point for this whole process. And we are asking a very similar question to 273 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:37,440 this on the statistically valid survey and the online survey. What was really a 274 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:41,200 little bit unusual is we almost always see improving existing parks and trails 275 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:45,279 as the number one priority and in this case it came in number two. Developing 276 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:49,840 new parks and trails was the one that folks voted for the most in that one 277 00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:53,679 activity. So far, the online survey that's on the 278 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:57,440 project website, which can be accessed at this QR code. I also saw a poster out 279 00:29:56,159 --> 00:30:02,000 in the lobby here of the community center that also has a QR code to this 280 00:29:59,919 --> 00:30:07,279 website. So far, we've had a little over 550 visits to the site. This is as of 281 00:30:04,559 --> 00:30:12,000 late last week. Uh, a total of 68 responses to the survey. I would love to 282 00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:16,559 see our online survey responses grow to somewhere between two to 400, if not 283 00:30:14,559 --> 00:30:20,559 higher than that. So, we have some work to do in promoting this survey and 284 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:24,480 getting folks to use it. So far, 17 folks have made contributions to the 285 00:30:22,159 --> 00:30:28,640 interactive mapping and three uh responses to the vision board. So, this 286 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:33,200 we will keep this project website up throughout the entirety of the entire 287 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:38,480 project. So, uh people will have plenty of opportunity to continue to access 288 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:41,919 this. We hope to see um a surge after tomorrow night's public meeting as well. 289 00:30:40,399 --> 00:30:45,360 The graph you can see at the bottom of the screen actually shows when the 290 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:50,240 traffic occurred to the website and we confirmed with staff like what was 291 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:53,760 causing these spikes. Uh and what just happened to coincide around these spikes 292 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:57,360 and traffic to the website were um events that were occurring around the 293 00:30:55,120 --> 00:31:01,919 community in which staff were uh having a table and promoting interaction with 294 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:06,080 the with with the website. Al also some advertising activity that the department 295 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:10,640 was doing. So we we know that that is h that is effective in pushing traffic to 296 00:31:07,919 --> 00:31:15,200 the website. So, one of those first early uh pro 297 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:18,240 parts of the process was an assessment of all your sites and facilities. I'm 298 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:22,720 going to be continuing that tomorrow while I'm in town, visiting all your 299 00:31:20,159 --> 00:31:26,399 firehouses as well and assessing those facilities since uh that is a 300 00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:30,000 maintenance responsibility of the parks and recreation team. 301 00:31:28,559 --> 00:31:34,240 But you can see you have a lot of parks that are in the uh excellent good 302 00:31:32,159 --> 00:31:38,240 category. Only a small handful and fair. No other parks are what we consider to 303 00:31:35,919 --> 00:31:41,840 be in poor condition. and how they've uh classified on the far right and their 304 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:45,919 various their varied levels of usage there in the middle column. So what's 305 00:31:44,159 --> 00:31:51,760 also very important is you have some signature regional facilities here such 306 00:31:48,159 --> 00:31:56,399 as North Sea Park, the BMX Park, the dog park, this facility, um some of the new 307 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:59,519 trail heads that you've been putting in. So this is something that's very 308 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,159 important that you are you are putting in infrastructure that's not only 309 00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:07,440 important to your residents but it's important to the region. 310 00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:11,360 So Mary mentioned one of the big areas of uh what we'll be reporting on this 311 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:15,519 evening is the analysis we've conducted on your recreation programs. 312 00:32:14,237 --> 00:32:20,480 [clears throat] So this is these are programs that are designed and delivered 313 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:26,320 by by city staff and by contract support staff and you in in that portfolio you 314 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:31,840 have over 93 distinct program and service offerings spread out across six 315 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:36,000 core program areas core program and activity areas. So the program and 316 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:40,640 activity areas that we were evaluating were aquatics activities, community 317 00:32:38,399 --> 00:32:44,880 recreation programs, senior programs, special events, youth and teen programs, 318 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:49,600 and facility rentals and permits. That is how your program portfolio is 319 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:54,320 organized. So we analyzed it within its own organizational context. So here's 320 00:32:52,399 --> 00:32:58,799 some of the things that we learned. One of the first things we looked at was how 321 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:02,799 your programs serve various age segments within the community. Does it does it 322 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:07,360 mirror the the demographics of the community itself? And what we saw is we 323 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:12,080 saw broad age segmentation across all core program areas. What you're looking 324 00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:16,399 at in this table uh things that indicated with a P are those age 325 00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:20,720 segments that are served as a primary target audience for those various 326 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:24,480 activity areas or program areas. Those that are indicated with an S are that 327 00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:29,600 they serve that age segment as a secondary audience. So you can see no 328 00:33:27,279 --> 00:33:34,080 age segment is left out and many age segments are very well covered. The 329 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:37,519 table at the bottom looks at how those various age segments are served as 330 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:42,159 either the primary audience or the secondary audience. So there's a lot 331 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:46,559 more detail in this analysis as you can tell that are captured in the actual 332 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:50,559 report itself. The second thing we wanted to look at is 333 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:54,320 where your programs were in their life cycle. Are they brand new programs that 334 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:58,399 you just rolled out? Are they programs that have been out for a year or two, 335 00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:03,440 but they're experiencing rapid growth? Are they mature or are they in a state 336 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:08,720 of decline or saturation? And so what we see on the top is is on the the actual 337 00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:14,320 program distributions columns is how your programs cross are uh score across 338 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:18,320 those various life cycles. And on the far right is the recommended 339 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:22,240 distribution that we provide based on our experience as former parks and 340 00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:27,119 recreation directors ourselves as well as a national consulting firm seeing 341 00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:31,599 national best practices. So as far we bundled those first three categories you 342 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:36,399 have 46% of your offerings fall in those first three categories which are 343 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:40,960 introductory takeoff or growth phases. We recommend somewhere between 50 to 60% 344 00:34:38,879 --> 00:34:46,000 so you're just slightly below that recommended distribution. That's not a 345 00:34:42,720 --> 00:34:51,119 hard lift at all. Um, we you have about 36% of your offerings in the mature 346 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:56,320 category, which is pretty much right at that recommended 40%. And then you have 347 00:34:54,159 --> 00:35:01,200 18% of your offerings in those bottom three categories that are in either in a 348 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:05,200 state of saturation, decline, or uh regularly canceled programs. We 349 00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:10,480 recommend that no more than about 10% of your program uh portfolio fall in these 350 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:14,079 life cycle stages. So what this tells us, this is not a bad report. This is 351 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:18,400 actually a very helpful report because as we think about what specific 352 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:22,640 recommendations on improving your recreation programs, obviously some of 353 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:27,200 the very first places we want to look are programs that may be in a state of 354 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:32,400 saturation or decline or cancelling regularly. You know, a pre recreation 355 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:36,480 program portfolio is very much like a rose bush. So, in order to get it to 356 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:41,280 really bloom nicely, sometimes you have to trim a little bit and and cut back on 357 00:35:39,119 --> 00:35:46,720 some of those blooms that are that are um not as healthy on the vine. So, this 358 00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:50,880 is we and we know from the data that we collected with your staff exactly which 359 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:54,800 programs fall in these categories. So, this gives us a it's almost like a 360 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:59,599 targeting tool, if you will, as we think about how we can improve the program 361 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:04,320 portfolio overall. This is a little bit of a setup slide to 362 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:07,920 talk about program classification. So this is very common particularly in 363 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:12,560 public parks and recreation agencies to organize your services in these three 364 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:17,200 categories. Starting at the bottom of essential services. Those are services 365 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:20,800 that are most closely aligned with your public mandate as a public service. 366 00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:25,760 These are things that public parks and recreations generally must provide as 367 00:36:23,359 --> 00:36:29,359 kind of a core service. That next tier up is what we call important services. 368 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:33,920 So these are all of course mission aligned. These are the shouldd dos. Uh 369 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:38,240 but as you move up this spectrum towards value added the benefits of 370 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:41,839 participating in these programs are more exclusively enjoyed by the individual 371 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:46,640 participant than they are providing broad community benefit. So a good 372 00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:51,040 example of essential services are things like learn to swim programs or senior 373 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:55,920 lunches. These are things that really have a broad community benefit. Things 374 00:36:53,760 --> 00:37:00,000 that are usually category uh programs and important services are things like 375 00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:03,440 youth sports because it's very important that we keep our youth active. We give 376 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:08,480 them the opportunity to learn and practice fair play and they uh stay 377 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:11,760 healthy and well. But a a lot of the benefit of participating in those 378 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:16,160 programs are also individually enjoyed by the participants and their families. 379 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:20,320 And examples of value added services are things like senior trip and travel. So 380 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:24,560 again, enrichment programs that are mission aligned, but the benefit of 381 00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:29,359 participating in that program is almost exclusively enjoyed by the participant 382 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:34,240 themselves. So why is that important? What you see the graphic on the left is 383 00:37:31,359 --> 00:37:40,079 generally how when you think about that pyramid or those tiers of program 384 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:44,320 classification, how the cost recovery and the pricing of those programs is is 385 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:48,880 typically aligned according to national best practices. So for example on the 386 00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:53,119 broad community benefit essential services at the bottom of that pyramid 387 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:58,240 generally these are programs that are mo most commonly free or highly highly 388 00:37:55,599 --> 00:38:02,960 subsidized. So cost recovery is very low 0 to 20%. And as you move up the 389 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:07,280 spectrum and up the pyramid towards value added services generally more 390 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:12,720 commonly you see see more aggressive cost recovery strategies engaged through 391 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:17,760 pricing etc. So how do your programs far out? Uh that table across the top right 392 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:21,920 shows the percentages of your offerings that fall in those various categories. 393 00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:26,240 So 28% of your offerings would be considered essential, 34 would be 394 00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:30,400 considered important and 38 considered value added. That is a very balanced 395 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:34,880 approach. So I did not see any red flags here at all. Sometimes when I see things 396 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:39,520 that may cause me concern, it was where I see the proportion of essential 397 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:44,000 services being very low and the p proportion of value added services being 398 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:48,880 very high. particularly in a community that may have broad uh economic 399 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:53,280 disparities within it. So you are have a very balanced approach which is great 400 00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:56,560 and the pie chart just looks at that a little bit more graphically. You can see 401 00:38:54,560 --> 00:39:01,680 it's almost uh equally distributed across all three classifications. 402 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:06,400 So how does that relate to the various pricing strategies that you use? So 403 00:39:03,839 --> 00:39:10,079 right now there you use 10 out of the 11 recommended strategies that we bring to 404 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:14,480 the table. So it's a very well balanced approach there as well. Some of your 405 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:19,680 strongest areas of use, the things that you use to inform how you would price a 406 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:24,240 program are cost recovery goals that you may have for that program. You keep in 407 00:39:21,839 --> 00:39:28,560 mind the customers ability to pay and making sure that you have a regular 408 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:33,280 availability of free free offerings in the portfolio for folks that may be 409 00:39:30,720 --> 00:39:37,839 economically disadvantaged. So as we think about ways in which we can improve 410 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:42,640 the sophistication of your pricing strategies moving forward is effort to 411 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:47,920 do a number of things. One is to be able to properly resource the department but 412 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:52,800 also deal with this issue we talked about before which is the massive impact 413 00:39:49,839 --> 00:39:56,800 of non-resident usage on not only your facilities but your programs. So a lot 414 00:39:54,480 --> 00:40:02,160 of this data puts us in a great position to begin to have that discussion from a 415 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:05,440 data driven perspective. So, what are some of our upcoming 416 00:40:03,599 --> 00:40:08,960 priorities? As I mentioned, we have our second public meeting tomorrow night 417 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:12,160 here in this building. The statistically valid survey is out and we're 418 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:16,720 anticipating the results by the end of August. We have initiated the part of 419 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:21,280 the scope that includes developing park and trail design standards uh for the 420 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:25,599 entire system. So, that was that we have a great team from Colorado called Logan 421 00:40:23,359 --> 00:40:29,280 Simpson that has started the discussion with staff about what that needs to look 422 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:33,440 like. We'll be getting down into doing an operations and maintenance analysis 423 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:38,480 in the next six to eight weeks. We're developing a toolkit which will really 424 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:42,400 help to digitize and formalize a lot of your training and professional 425 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:46,960 development uh for you know ensuring that you are not only a great public 426 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:51,760 service but a modernized employer of choice and then we'll get into specific 427 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:56,560 strategies and recommendations and finally a third public meeting to a date 428 00:40:54,320 --> 00:41:00,079 to be determined. there will be multiple touch points for us to be back and have 429 00:40:58,319 --> 00:41:03,680 these kind of conversations with you all as well during this process and 430 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:06,880 especially as we have more to learn and to share and we have that puts us in a 431 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:10,880 position to start thinking about strategies. 432 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:16,160 So again I'm going to close with a reminder this is a screenshot of our of 433 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:20,560 our project website. This is where folks can access the online survey and the 434 00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:24,319 interactive mapping tool and the vision board. We are trying to promote this 435 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:28,319 every chance we get. We appreciate your help in doing so as well with your 436 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:31,200 constituents cuz it's more responses we have the better this project is. So, 437 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,480 thank you very much for your attention tonight and I believe we have some time 438 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:42,599 for questions. >> Thank you very much, Mr. Trust. Um, 439 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:42,599 council member, any questions? 440 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:52,160 » Thank you so much for the presentation. Um, I do I just have one question. Um, 441 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:56,000 this is all really exciting. Um, could we go back to the program life 442 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,960 cycles? You >> bet. 443 00:41:56,319 --> 00:42:05,359 » And I apologize to my colleagues. Would you just rebrief me on the purpose of 444 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:09,359 this slide? I I was just having trouble following along. Um, but from my 445 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:14,640 understanding is that this is talking about not 446 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:19,359 how many like it's not like the um like if you have like a a pottery class, not 447 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:22,240 like a beginner's level, but like the actual lifespan of the class. Is that 448 00:42:21,839 --> 00:42:26,880 correct? >> It's the life cycle of the program 449 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:32,160 itself. So, okay, let's say it's a pottery class that the department just 450 00:42:29,359 --> 00:42:36,079 started last season. So, that would be probably one that they would categorize 451 00:42:33,839 --> 00:42:39,760 in the introduction phase. If it's a pottery class that's been 452 00:42:37,839 --> 00:42:44,000 around for 10 years and they've just continually provided it, but it has 453 00:42:42,079 --> 00:42:49,040 steady participation, it would fall in that mature phase. If it's a program 454 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:54,240 that's maybe it's been around for three, four, five years, but they continue to 455 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:58,079 see declining participation, then that would be in the saturation or declining 456 00:42:56,079 --> 00:43:02,319 phase. So this is almost like a performance metric of where the programs 457 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:05,760 are, how they're performing in their own life cycle. 458 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:09,359 » Okay. So it looks like largely our programs as they're introduced are 459 00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:12,319 sustaining themselves. >> Correct. Okay. 460 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:15,760 » Correct. And there's opportunity to refine the portfolio by looking at some 461 00:43:14,319 --> 00:43:18,319 of the ones that are in the saturation and decline phase. 462 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,280 » Excellent. Thank you for the clarification. Um that is all I have. 463 00:43:21,035 --> 00:43:27,280 [snorts] >> Thank you member. 464 00:43:24,319 --> 00:43:33,599 » Thank you. Um so I I have a few observations and um 465 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:38,960 suggestions I guess. So um I I've been actively um either observing and or 466 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:45,280 participating in various different programs just to see you know um how our 467 00:43:42,319 --> 00:43:49,520 constituents uh are enjoying themselves uh and uh what sort of impact and how 468 00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:57,359 the organization work and all of that stuff. Okay. So um 469 00:43:53,359 --> 00:44:01,599 regarding the program classification uh when we are considering value added 470 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:06,560 services versus essential services I agree with all of that but then when we 471 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:10,800 go to individual and community benefits the 472 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:17,520 I agree with that as well. Uh I think the community benefits should be focused 473 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:23,280 on CEC local community benefits and and here's why. Uh so I'll I'll use the BMX 474 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:30,160 track as an example and uh that is uh you know uh like a value added service. 475 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:37,359 Um wonderful programming. It actually has um they organize events that are uh 476 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:42,079 attended worldwide by international um folks attend these events and they 477 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:48,000 travel uh come to our city specifically for these events uh as part of the the 478 00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:55,440 world BMX championships or whatever it's called. Um hundreds of families attend 479 00:44:52,079 --> 00:45:01,520 uh children and uh even grandparents participate as well. super super um 480 00:44:59,359 --> 00:45:07,760 community benefit there uh as well as individual benefit. However, it probably 481 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:14,560 a value ad. Um however, that entire program, the the program, the the track 482 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:19,839 maintenance itself, uh the organization, it's all self-funded. So, the city 483 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:23,599 really has very minimal um you know um uh what do you call it? Uh involvement 484 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:30,800 with that other than you know assisting with some planning perhaps. Um, but it's 485 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:35,839 a super successful program uh uh run by a a nonprofit organization. Very I'm 486 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:40,720 happy about the partnership. Um, another example is the uh senior program and 487 00:45:39,359 --> 00:45:43,920 specifically the senior lunches. I attend once in a while, you know, just 488 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,319 to catch up with people, right? And it's packed. It's 489 00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:49,760 » it's fun like it is. >> There's music there. It's 490 00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:54,079 » music, you know, very well [snorts] attended. Uh sometimes that there are no 491 00:45:52,319 --> 00:45:57,920 seats. you would have to pull in at chairs and all of that stuff. Uh meals 492 00:45:56,240 --> 00:46:03,599 are great. I think it's a wonderful program. I think it should be expanded. 493 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:09,839 » However, what I've noticed is that it's similar to the BMX attendance in that 494 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:14,720 very few CATAC people are actually participating in that program. And in 495 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:19,280 fact, I would say more than 90% of the participants are not CATAC residents. Uh 496 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:23,920 they're coming from other cities. And that's okay. I think that's fine. we are 497 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:28,720 providing a community benefit. Um but when I talked to CPAP residents who are 498 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:34,480 seniors uh who could be interested in a program um I I've informed folks about 499 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:38,000 this and so two local seniors never even heard about this and they attended for 500 00:46:36,079 --> 00:46:40,720 the first time and they will continue to come back. So I think there's some 501 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:44,160 outreach effort that need to be done there with our local community to inform 502 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:49,760 them of these programs that we have available for them. Uh but on the other 503 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:54,960 hand, I think that because I don't know exactly what the what the cost how the 504 00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:59,839 costs work out. Um but I think that we should just be able to make sure that 505 00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:06,079 that even though it does benefit the individual and community has both 506 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:11,359 benefits, if the community is um mostly non CAP community, then we should seek 507 00:47:09,119 --> 00:47:16,720 uh towards a potential cost recovery model in that particular situation. So, 508 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:21,839 I'm not saying that um what I would like to see is the program expand and perhaps 509 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:27,599 provide a steep discount for SeaTac residents who are participating and then 510 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:31,359 pursue more of a cost recovery model for nonCAC residents. That that that is a 511 00:47:29,839 --> 00:47:36,079 suggestion that I have. I think that would make that more sustainable and 512 00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:39,520 allow us to expand the program as well. >> That's just an example. 513 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:44,720 » Absolutely. And we totally 100% agree with that. What what you see here on the 514 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:48,880 screen is right now uh a state of residency is really as a used as a 515 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:53,680 pricing strategy in only two of the core program areas community recreation and 516 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:58,319 facility rentals. All the other program it is the same rate for a resident as a 517 00:47:55,680 --> 00:48:02,640 non-resident to participate in it. And as a result you have very you have 518 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:07,280 extremely popular programs that non-residents are really enjoying but at 519 00:48:05,359 --> 00:48:12,720 potentially at the expense of SeaTac residents being a part of it as well. 520 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:17,599 And so um a a strategy for managing that and taking advantage of all these non 521 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:21,920 non-residents that are enjoying your programs that are subsidized for your 522 00:48:19,359 --> 00:48:25,920 residents is to employ a little bit more sophisticated resident versus 523 00:48:23,359 --> 00:48:30,640 non-resident fee structure. And so as we get further along in the process, I know 524 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:34,319 fees can and pricing can be a controversial topic, but this is one 525 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:38,800 that we're going to recommend we dive into a little bit more to manage some of 526 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:44,400 these types of things. >> Okay, that's all I had. Thank you. 527 00:48:41,599 --> 00:48:49,359 » Mr. P. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, and thank you 528 00:48:46,319 --> 00:48:55,880 for this uh presentation. Um, can we go back to the 529 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,880 actually I just had it up. 530 00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:04,319 » Sorry, my computer is lagging. >> Uh, the program life cycles slide. 531 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:09,440 » Yes. >> Um, I appreciate you um breaking this 532 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:14,800 down um at the request of uh my colleague, but what else is this slide 533 00:49:12,559 --> 00:49:18,160 telling us about our programs that are currently being offered by the city of 534 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:22,400 SeaTac? Well, uh that's [clears throat] a great 535 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:26,160 question. So, um as we think about and like as I 536 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:31,760 mentioned, when we perform this analysis of all those 93 individual programs and 537 00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:35,920 offerings, we know which one of them where they fall in each one of these 538 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:40,640 life cycles. So, there's no guesswork in trying to understand which programs are 539 00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:45,599 in that state of saturation or decline or maturity. We know which ones they 540 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:49,440 are. Um and as you and we have another client in the Midwest where they 541 00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:54,160 actually had much higher percentage in that saturation and decline phase and it 542 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:58,400 was became pretty clear as you look at things like in the table on the bottom 543 00:49:55,839 --> 00:50:03,359 there where a lot of those programs may be occurring that again just makes it 544 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:08,720 much more efficient for us and for the the department staff to really hone in 545 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:12,400 on where there are improvements that could be made in the offerings. In some 546 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:17,440 cases, it may mean that there's a program or two that we need to 547 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:21,359 discontinue because there's just not the sufficient interest in it that's 548 00:50:19,359 --> 00:50:26,480 justifies the effort that it takes to design it, deliver it, schedule it, etc. 549 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:31,119 » Uh in some cases, it may mean there's an existing program that needs to be 550 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:35,280 evolved or refreshed in order to create more appeal. So, it is more popular 551 00:50:33,359 --> 00:50:40,400 amongst residents. Um and then some cases, it it shows us where programs are 552 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:45,280 extremely high performing. and we need to maybe double down or or offer more 553 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:49,599 more occurrences of that particular program if there's long waiting lists 554 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:54,640 etc. So as you see on that table on the on the bottom if you kind of look at in 555 00:50:52,160 --> 00:51:01,040 those saturated and decline and no go phase u uh life cycles you can see which 556 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:05,200 categories of programs have the highest proportions of offerings that are in 557 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:11,280 each one of those each one of those life cycles. So for example, special 14% of 558 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:15,040 special events currently are considered in the saturation phase. That means 559 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:19,440 we're probably uh we're maxed out on uh the the 560 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:24,160 capacity. Sometimes that's a facilities issue, sometimes that's a staff issue, 561 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:29,839 but those are programs that are kind of getting maxed out. Um as you look up at 562 00:51:27,119 --> 00:51:34,000 community recreation towards the top, 21% of its offerings are in a state of 563 00:51:32,079 --> 00:51:37,200 decline. So that means we probably want to pay attention to what's going on 564 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:41,599 there. What are those programs? How can we improve upon them to maybe bring them 565 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:45,920 back so that they are not in a state of decline, but they are they are moving 566 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:49,359 somewhere over to a growth or a takeoff phase. Does that make sense? 567 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:53,839 » That that does make sense. And uh just to follow up to that, is there do we 568 00:51:51,359 --> 00:51:57,359 have the ability to track where it's a constraint due to staffing versus 569 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,800 actually physical space? >> Yes. So, 570 00:51:58,240 --> 00:52:03,760 » and will we track that? There's a [laughter] 571 00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:08,480 if that is a um anecdotal evidence behind each one of these as we dive into 572 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:12,240 these individually with staff really understanding circumstantially what may 573 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:16,240 contribute to how they're being uh scored in this in this particular 574 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:21,200 analysis. And so going through them one by one with that team we'll be able to 575 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:26,559 identify those that are hindered by staffing or facility capacity issues. 576 00:52:24,319 --> 00:52:31,280 » Thank you. Um [clears throat] in an earlier slide I saw that the uh 577 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:37,119 top resident priority was develop new parks and trails. Um but we also stated 578 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:39,839 that the city of SeaTac is landlocked. >> Yeah. 579 00:52:37,599 --> 00:52:45,200 » So where will these new parks and trails come from? Will the recommendation be 580 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:49,119 through acquisition um partnerships with um community based organizations? Uh can 581 00:52:47,599 --> 00:52:53,839 you tell me more about that? And >> again this was just one po one one point 582 00:52:51,359 --> 00:52:57,680 in time with a small group of people. I would be very interested to see the 583 00:52:55,520 --> 00:53:01,680 results of this question as it comes back from the statistically valid survey 584 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:06,240 because we also asked it there and that's going to be a much more broad 585 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:11,760 sweeping cross-representative sample of CTAC residents overall but as you as you 586 00:53:10,079 --> 00:53:16,559 as a builtout community as you think about new parks new trails is one thing 587 00:53:13,839 --> 00:53:20,640 I mean that's a little bit easier uh but new parks is oftentimes pretty 588 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:24,880 challenging because of the just a lack of available tracks of land that would 589 00:53:22,559 --> 00:53:28,319 be suitable for Parkland. But as you think about um as we shouldn't it 590 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:32,880 shouldn't be off the table, but it should definitely demand our creativity 591 00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:36,640 at things like engaging the development community so that you know like park 592 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:40,240 dedications when they may be doing new developments or refreshing new 593 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:44,400 developments using that tool to help bring parks online. as you mentioned, 594 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:50,079 partnerships with community- based organizations, land swap opportunities, 595 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:54,240 old uh dilapidated lots that might have a higher and better purpose as a public 596 00:53:52,240 --> 00:53:58,240 vibrant public space. So, there's a number of different strategies. Do I 597 00:53:55,839 --> 00:54:02,160 foresee that you are going to have large community and regional parks, new ones 598 00:54:00,240 --> 00:54:05,359 in your future? Probably not. Okay. >> But refreshing the ones that you do have 599 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:10,400 should be a priority. >> Thank you. And my last question, how is 600 00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:14,400 this pros plan coordinating with our uh transportation improvement plan? I'd 601 00:54:12,319 --> 00:54:18,559 hate for us to get into a situation where the pros plan is has a 602 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:22,400 recommendation that's in conflict with our transportation improvement plan 603 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:25,920 along the same corridor. So, but what does thatordination look like? 604 00:54:24,319 --> 00:54:30,559 » And there's a lot of other plans not only going on, but having been recently 605 00:54:28,079 --> 00:54:35,280 completed and then also planned to beun begin in in the near couple years. And 606 00:54:33,359 --> 00:54:39,760 so staff are keeping us well apprised of a lot of those ongoing uh planning 607 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:43,440 efforts. We also have members of the planning department. Kaen spins she 608 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:47,839 participates in each one of our bi-weekly meetings. So we always are 609 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:50,880 asking how does this intersect? How do what we're talking about intersect with 610 00:54:49,359 --> 00:54:54,800 other plans that are going on in the community particularly around 611 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:59,359 transportation trails and connectivity is so such an important integration 612 00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:03,119 point. So, if there's opportunities for projects to do double duty, solve 613 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:06,640 transportation issues and connectivity issues at the same time, we're trying to 614 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:09,440 make sure we stay apprised of that ahead of time. 615 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:11,280 » Thank you. And and you said uh the next public meeting is tomorrow night. 616 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,720 » Tomorrow night. >> And where's it at? 617 00:55:12,079 --> 00:55:14,800 » This room. >> This room. 618 00:55:13,599 --> 00:55:20,888 » Awesome. Thank you. >> You bet. 619 00:55:16,720 --> 00:55:25,599 » Thank you, Mr. Mr. Pincer. I [clears throat] I use an city of city 620 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:30,960 tag bar and open spaces every day basically and I'm also talker so I talk 621 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:35,440 to the people walking around it playing with their children and all of those 622 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:41,200 things and the park is of sea tag is our jewel and 623 00:55:38,079 --> 00:55:46,160 joy to our community really talking to them I find out few things 624 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:52,799 ground most of people who use grandf few bark they live in demon and kept most of 625 00:55:50,559 --> 00:55:56,960 very few I talked to people who were walking with their doggies in actually 626 00:55:54,799 --> 00:56:02,799 north cag bark or other places and I told them look there's unleashing 627 00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:07,119 » and and and bark in sag do you know that it's like 10 blocks from here but they 628 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:12,559 don't know that >> so this is 629 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:16,880 I don't want to um I mean how you quantified 630 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:24,319 choy you know when you giving so much joy to seniors and local offers and 631 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:29,760 community members to enjoy there. So I I want our our communities around us to 632 00:56:27,599 --> 00:56:34,079 use our bikes and enjoy it and stay healthy and you know all of those thing 633 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:40,160 instead of you know you are Seattle $5 from there you know I I I 634 00:56:38,079 --> 00:56:47,119 there is something that's dear to me that's we call common good 635 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:54,720 » community not city of sit but uh as a whole as a state as a county as a cities 636 00:56:50,079 --> 00:56:59,119 around in this area. So um I have uh one question and you mentioned it uh 637 00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:03,520 sometimes ago which is that we are growing community where the first 638 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:09,760 community we get the information different ways my 18 years old get her 639 00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:13,599 information her way I get mine >> um but we want to engage all of those 640 00:57:11,839 --> 00:57:18,720 things and there's language cultural barrier I know that the senior launching 641 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:24,640 program here which I have attended which is very beautiful it's it doesn't 642 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:29,359 represent all our demographics. I know many seniors of color who live in this 643 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:33,680 area who never came to here. >> So it's actually we should reach out and 644 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:39,040 say hey you know Wednesday is a month right we can have we can eat here we can 645 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:42,960 have fun you know uh we'll have interpreters all of those things and 646 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:46,640 actually bridge the cultures and all of those things. So there's a lot of 647 00:57:44,799 --> 00:57:51,440 potential this city that we have not explored it. I'm glad that we are 648 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:56,400 starting this conversation and this is an opportunity but I want to know 649 00:57:54,160 --> 00:58:00,480 specifically how you will approach you know immigrant seniors who live in CDFC 650 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:06,605 in [clears throat] one of the apartments or here that how you do that 651 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:09,760 » that's a great question. So [clears throat] and again the 652 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:13,520 statistically valid survey is our is our primary tool for that. It is going to 653 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:19,280 because it is completely random s sampled uh with wholly within just the 654 00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:23,760 boundaries of CEKC. So >> uh we are not picking up any feedback 655 00:58:21,359 --> 00:58:29,599 from non-residents in that in that tool and and we track the results when they 656 00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:35,119 come back. So make sure that based on the age segmentation, the race and 657 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:40,319 ethnic uh composition of of CATAC that we're getting responses from survey 658 00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:45,200 respondents that mirror the pro the community profile of the city. So that 659 00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:49,520 if we are running the risk of oversampling or undersampling any 660 00:58:47,359 --> 00:58:54,960 groups, we can correct that before we complete the survey. So we do monitor 661 00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:59,440 that pretty regularly and etc institute our partner who administers that survey 662 00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:04,799 is very strong. We are also continuing to take guidance from Mary uh and her 663 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:08,880 team about ways and I think they're getting feedback from some of you all as 664 00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:13,040 well about ways in which we can continue to engage other community members 665 00:59:11,119 --> 00:59:18,480 through community- based organizations looking at other strategies that we can 666 00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:24,640 employ to ensure that not just users but non-users voice is included in this 667 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:30,000 plan. In that survey we do ask people about what are their barriers to access. 668 00:59:27,359 --> 00:59:34,079 So we we to take an opportunity to learn what what is it that keeps them from 669 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:40,000 using your parks more often than they currently do. We also ask them about one 670 00:59:37,839 --> 00:59:44,559 how they currently find out about park and recreation opportunities and then 671 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:48,799 secondly how they would prefer to find out about parks and recreation 672 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:53,200 opportunities to so that we can help shape the marketing communications 673 00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:56,799 awareness pieces of the department getting information out there. This is a 674 00:59:55,119 --> 01:00:01,040 challenge most parks and recreation departments face. 675 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:04,640 » Um, parks and recreation is the closest thing your city has to like a pure 676 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:09,119 retail service >> where you you put together a portfolio 677 01:00:07,359 --> 01:00:13,040 of offerings and then you go out and advertise it and recruit and try to get 678 01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:16,960 people to participate [snorts] and then there's various sometimes there's fees 679 01:00:14,799 --> 01:00:22,960 associated with it, sometimes not. And that's a not exactly a core competencies 680 01:00:20,079 --> 01:00:27,839 a lot of cities excel at. That's very different than marketing communications 681 01:00:24,559 --> 01:00:33,200 around public works or police and fire. And so I anticipate that one of the 682 01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:36,799 outcomes of this plan is that the city's marketing communication efforts, 683 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:40,319 particularly in parks and recreation, is going to improve dramatically because of 684 01:00:38,799 --> 01:00:44,640 all the information that we're gathering in this process, including the surveys, 685 01:00:42,319 --> 01:00:46,400 the interviews, and the public meetings. >> Beautiful. Thank you very much. 686 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:56,480 » Bet. >> All right. I will wrap up that one. Um 687 01:00:52,400 --> 01:01:02,559 the next item will be key key city issues and requests for direction total 688 01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:07,520 for 45 minutes from the city manager Chant. 689 01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:14,000 » Thank you mayor, city council. Uh I'll uh introduce this first item while uh 690 01:01:11,839 --> 01:01:19,200 interim dire deputy city manager Maxum comes up to present. Um, one of the 691 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:22,960 things that in local government we get really good at doing is we complete a 692 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:28,160 project and then we move immediately on to the next one without ever pausing to 693 01:01:25,119 --> 01:01:32,559 reflect how things went. Over the past summer, we had the culmination of one of 694 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:38,000 the largest efforts we've had in preparing for the welcoming of the World 695 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:41,839 Cup to Seattle. This was a process that from its very beginning was designed to 696 01:01:39,839 --> 01:01:46,079 keep SeaTac safe. We wanted to provide spaces where community could gather. if 697 01:01:44,559 --> 01:01:49,599 the better part of a million people got off a light rail and needed a place to 698 01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:53,520 congregate, we wanted to make sure we had safe spaces for them to get 699 01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:59,040 together. We did that and we knew that along the way we would learn some 700 01:01:54,880 --> 01:02:03,200 lessons about how community and uh visitors can use space along the 701 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:06,920 international boulevard. So with that, turn it over to Evan. 702 01:02:07,119 --> 01:02:13,040 » Good evening, mayor, city council. Uh bear with me while I adjust the 703 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:17,680 microphone here. Uh so as Jonathan introduced a moment ago, I do have an 704 01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:22,319 update for you on our recent uh World Cup events. Um this is a little bit of 705 01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:26,400 an update on some of the activities that you've heard briefings on over the last 706 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:29,280 few months. I thought we should probably start with a little bit of a 707 01:02:27,599 --> 01:02:33,200 presentation around each of the activation sites. Uh these are photos 708 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:38,000 that of course were taken by our photographer uh Mr. Inman. Um so due 709 01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:40,880 credit for uh the quality of the pictures as we move forward. And I'll 710 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:45,280 remind the city council, we really focused on creating three uh FIFA 711 01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:48,880 activation sites. The screen that you have on the uh pardon me, the images 712 01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:53,040 that you see on the screen before you are related to the kiss and ride site. 713 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:57,359 This is at your groundbreaking event. Uh we had both the mini pitch, the BMX uh 714 01:02:55,760 --> 01:03:01,720 pump track, and then of course a number of vendors located at that site. 715 01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:11,839 Uh, next site as you move north on International Boulevard, of course, was 716 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:15,200 our STOP site. Uh, again, I think you'll recognize the photos here. This comes 717 01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:19,680 from the groundbreaking event or the ribbon cutting event uh that we engaged 718 01:03:17,039 --> 01:03:22,960 in at the STO site. Um, I think a few of our council members and perhaps our city 719 01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:27,359 manager in the slides. And just really want to highlight uh the color, the 720 01:03:24,799 --> 01:03:31,839 activation event, and um how well we've put this these sites together. And we'll 721 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:36,240 elaborate more in a moment here. And then moving south, of course, the third 722 01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:39,760 site was the former Bullpen property. Remind the city council that we closed 723 01:03:37,839 --> 01:03:44,240 on that property at the end of February, demolished uh the bulk of the buildings 724 01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:48,000 on that property, and then stood up this FIFA activation site in in time for the 725 01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:52,400 groundbreaking that you can see on the screen in front of you. Uh recall that 726 01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:55,599 these activation sites served a couple of different purposes. Of course, we 727 01:03:53,680 --> 01:04:00,960 were celebrating World Cup and uh creating spaces for our communities, our 728 01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:04,720 travelers uh to come and view the games. It also serves as a trial run for 729 01:04:03,119 --> 01:04:08,559 creating activation sites along International Boulevard. So, our 730 01:04:06,079 --> 01:04:13,039 thoughts around placemaking, gauging how many of our travelers and our residents 731 01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:16,400 would come to these sites uh if they were stood up. And then third, it did 732 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:20,880 serve a little bit of a security purpose in terms of creating a space where we 733 01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:25,200 would have potential crowds come and be in a very defined location during the 734 01:04:22,799 --> 01:04:28,880 game so we could manage if there was uh an emergency event. And fortunately, 735 01:04:26,799 --> 01:04:31,599 there was not. Looking at the activation sites, these 736 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:35,280 photos on the screen in front of you really represent across all three of the 737 01:04:33,359 --> 01:04:40,960 sites. As you can see, they were heavily used and heavily programmed out uh 738 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:44,480 during the World Cup games. I have um a brief summary here. I just would like to 739 01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:48,400 characterize a little bit the effort that went into setting up these sites. 740 01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:52,319 What you'll see, of course, is the three sites that are activated. This did 741 01:04:50,079 --> 01:04:55,520 require strong coordination across uh at least three of your operational 742 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:58,720 departments. So, our community and economic development department, your 743 01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:02,559 public works maintenance uh department in particular, and your parks uh 744 01:05:00,559 --> 01:05:07,280 department. Those three departments worked uh collaboratively to identify 745 01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:12,880 all of the materials necessary for setting up the site, uh putting those um 746 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:17,839 facilities in place and then uh maintaining them throughout the the um 747 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:21,039 duration of the World Cup and continuing here. You've seen rendering that you've 748 01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:24,960 seen the pictures. The right-hand graphic on the screen in front of you 749 01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:29,280 really represents the site planning that we had to do for each of these sites. 750 01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:33,200 Um, this represents really one page out of several for each site and that's in 751 01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:36,960 the process of evolving as we move post World Cup 752 01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:40,960 getting the sites ready and again this is just a highle summary of the tasks 753 01:05:39,039 --> 01:05:44,400 associated with each site and I really want to highlight um our maintenance 754 01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:47,359 crews both from public works and parks. You'll recall that you brought on 755 01:05:45,599 --> 01:05:51,440 additional seasonal staff and our regular staff were involved in each of 756 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:56,400 the sites engaging in these t focusing on creating uh landscape spaces, kind of 757 01:05:53,760 --> 01:06:01,359 welcoming spaces, putting in planters, um ordering 50 pots, putting in uh all 758 01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:06,960 of the maintenance work, cleaning the site each day, um and so on. Also set up 759 01:06:04,799 --> 01:06:10,799 a lot of furniture and equipment. Uh if you visited those sites, you've seen all 760 01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:14,400 of the tables, the chairs, the shade, the awnings, the TV, the sound system, 761 01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:19,520 etc. Um, we are looking at the the pump 762 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:23,839 track, pardon me, the pump track for our BMX uh partners and then of course our 763 01:06:22,079 --> 01:06:28,400 mini pitch setup and looking at how we can repurpose that moving forward. And 764 01:06:26,319 --> 01:06:32,319 then last, um, of course we did focus on safety. So you I think you've seen the 765 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:36,319 jersey barriers out there that those are waterfilled intended to ensure that we 766 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:41,839 have safe uh traffic protection at each of the sites. 767 01:06:38,319 --> 01:06:45,039 Um during the the World Cup games, of course, there was also daily maintenance 768 01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:49,760 that was required from our maintenance and public works crews. Um so again, we 769 01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:53,359 had people out on the sites every day doing cleanup, uh washing down the 770 01:06:51,839 --> 01:06:57,680 property, making sure the bathrooms were reset. We had security teams on site to 771 01:06:56,000 --> 01:07:01,920 ensure that none of the city assets were damaged overnight, things of that 772 01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:06,559 nature. Uh just to give you a little bit of a sense of um the scale of the 773 01:07:04,079 --> 01:07:11,680 activities on a daily basis, we have 52 planters uh pardon [clears throat] me 52 774 01:07:09,119 --> 01:07:15,920 planters across the three sites. Each of those planters required daily watering. 775 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:20,880 Um so we ended up spending approximately 63 hours in this time period just 776 01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:24,880 watering plants. And that's just one aspect of the site maintenance during 777 01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:28,240 this uh month and a half, two months time period. 778 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:31,039 some preliminary data and and council member Vincent, I did hear your comments 779 01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:35,760 at the Highland forum the other night. This is preliminary data uh coming from 780 01:07:33,119 --> 01:07:41,039 our placer AI data tracking for site usage. Um will note there is a typo on 781 01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:46,319 this slide. My apologies uh in advance. You'll see the fourth bullet in the 782 01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:51,359 upper leftand corner says 68% and 44%. That should read 28% and 13% and I will 783 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:55,839 provide that to city council after the meeting uh this evening. Um but the 784 01:07:53,760 --> 01:08:00,799 highlight here is really the number of visitors we had during this time period. 785 01:07:57,839 --> 01:08:04,720 So this is the time period from May 22nd through July 20th. Recall recall that 786 01:08:02,799 --> 01:08:10,480 the last World Cup game, the final was on July 19th. In that time period at the 787 01:08:07,839 --> 01:08:15,359 bullpen site, we had uh more than 4,000 visitors at the bullpen site with an 788 01:08:12,799 --> 01:08:20,319 average time of of stay of an hour and a half. If you look at the right hand uh 789 01:08:18,319 --> 01:08:24,400 chart, that represents the days of the week where we saw the most activity. 790 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:30,080 Monday being the lefthand bar, uh Sunday being the righth hand bar. So on that 791 01:08:26,239 --> 01:08:33,600 upper right hand chart, uh Friday and Sunday were the days when we saw the 792 01:08:31,839 --> 01:08:38,080 most visitors, typically about a thousand visitors across the uh span of 793 01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:43,199 time. Uh lower left hand is the visit duration 794 01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:47,279 and I realize these are small graphics. This is not intended as the full data 795 01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:52,960 briefing, but just the preliminary. Uh and you'll see in the right hand side 796 01:08:49,359 --> 01:08:57,120 most days uh were exceeding 150 minutes at each of the site at the bullpen site 797 01:08:55,120 --> 01:09:01,359 pardon me. And then the lower right hand corner represents the time of day where 798 01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:06,159 we saw the most activity. And as you might expect about 12:00 about noon we 799 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:11,920 saw uh activity peaking on the or beginning to pick up on the site peaking 800 01:09:08,159 --> 01:09:17,839 typically around the 6:00 hour. moving uh north to the STOP site had 801 01:09:16,159 --> 01:09:20,560 slightly less in the way of visitors, which actually is a little bit 802 01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:26,640 counterintuitive to my experience of the STOP property. Um, but we had about 803 01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:31,759 3,400 visitors to the STOP site. Uh, many of those visitors went more than 804 01:09:29,199 --> 01:09:37,679 once, which is why you see 4 uh pardon me, 4,000 visits, 4,100 visits, and that 805 01:09:35,199 --> 01:09:42,719 represents repeat uh visitors to that site. most active typically Friday 806 01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:47,120 through Sunday. Uh duration actually a little bit higher 807 01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:51,279 for visiting that site. Again, consistent perhaps with my experience at 808 01:09:48,719 --> 01:09:56,400 least of about a 100 minutes on average. And you can see um the the distribution 809 01:09:54,400 --> 01:10:01,040 on the lower leftand corner. And then kind of an interesting uh visit pattern. 810 01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:06,960 So you had a peak pattern um both at the noon hour and into the early evening 811 01:10:03,440 --> 01:10:10,880 starting at 6:00. And then for the last site, this is the 812 01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:13,840 the welcoming plaza site. Remind the city council, this is actually right 813 01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:17,520 next to our Sound Transit Station. The numbers threw me a little bit in terms 814 01:10:15,440 --> 01:10:22,880 of visitation. You'll see that we had approximately 16,000 visitors pass 815 01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:26,560 through that site. Um, this is I'll remind the city council this data I'm 816 01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:30,960 presenting to you is the Placer AI data. So, what it's actually tracking is cell 817 01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:36,400 phones and it's tracking uh American cell phones. So, it is not picking up 818 01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:41,040 international travelers. Uh so in part I'm caveing this information because it 819 01:10:38,480 --> 01:10:45,120 is not a complete data set. We also are collecting information from our site 820 01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:49,199 operators to help verify some of the information that we'll eventually report 821 01:10:46,719 --> 01:10:52,719 to you this September. Uh but those 16,000 visitors I think actually will 822 01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:57,360 probably represent a fair uh number of our both airport employees walking past 823 01:10:55,280 --> 01:11:01,120 the site going into the airport and perhaps catch uh catching the train to 824 01:10:59,440 --> 01:11:05,760 go north. Uh you'll notice that the average visit 825 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:10,480 time is much smaller on this site, 24 minutes and if you look at the uh 826 01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:14,960 distribution both across days of the week, there's not a huge noticeable 827 01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:19,280 difference from day to day in terms of visitation and if you look in the lower 828 01:11:17,199 --> 01:11:24,719 lefthand corner, you'll notice that most of the visit durations are down in that 829 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:28,880 15 to 20 minute range or less. And then uh notably in the right hand um in terms 830 01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:35,159 of when the visits are occurring during the day you'll see a much more even 831 01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:35,159 distribution moving forward. 832 01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:42,080 I neglected to mention this um on the STO site so I'll move back just for a 833 01:11:39,440 --> 01:11:47,440 moment. Uh STO site one of the one of the bits of information that we're able 834 01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:52,480 to gather from place AI data is the visits to CEK businesses before and 835 01:11:50,159 --> 01:11:57,360 after. And you'll know in particular with a STOP site, we saw a number of uh 836 01:11:55,199 --> 01:12:02,560 visitors coming to STOP from a CATC business or returning to a SeaTac 837 01:11:59,679 --> 01:12:05,920 business after visiting STOP. This would indicate that we are seeing a high 838 01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:11,520 number of uh travelers and tourists visiting the site in particular. 839 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:15,600 So in terms of funding, switching gears just a little bit, I reported to you 840 01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:19,840 last on this particular item uh before we engaged in FIFA. And I'll note uh 841 01:12:18,239 --> 01:12:23,760 city council in your wisdom you did authorize a large uh lodging tax 842 01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:28,480 expenditure to support this and a large general fund expenditure. The positive 843 01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:33,180 in this slide is really that we are significantly under spent on our general 844 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:36,560 fund expenditures. >> [clears throat] 845 01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:42,080 » So, uh, the parenthetical numbers that you'll see on the screen is the original 846 01:12:38,719 --> 01:12:45,840 budgeted amount and the, uh, number immediately to the left of the 847 01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:50,080 parenthesis would represent our expenditure to date. So, I'll call to 848 01:12:48,239 --> 01:12:55,760 your attention that general fund at the very bottom, we're approximately $800, 849 01:12:52,640 --> 01:13:01,280 $900,000 under our general fund expenditure that you originally budgeted 850 01:12:57,679 --> 01:13:05,920 last last uh, October, November time frame. 851 01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:10,480 We're not quite done yet. Um, so, uh, we are in the process of evolving the three 852 01:13:07,679 --> 01:13:14,239 sites for some period of time to take us through the summer and into the early 853 01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:18,800 fall. I anticipate one of the referral requests you'll receive from, uh, city 854 01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:24,159 manager Young this evening is for a contract to extend the security services 855 01:13:21,199 --> 01:13:29,199 beyond August 31st. We would be drawing from the general fund savings to cover 856 01:13:26,159 --> 01:13:32,320 that contracting cost. If approved or if referred by city council tonight, you 857 01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:38,320 would see that contract amendment on August 11th. Uh you'll also note that we 858 01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:43,040 did have um both the Highline Heritage Museum contract for Fourth of July 859 01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:48,400 installations at all three sites and we had the uh ice cream truck that went to 860 01:13:45,199 --> 01:13:52,480 the three sites. Alluded to this in some of my comments 861 01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:56,239 up until now. We are in the process of essentially modifying all three sites 862 01:13:54,000 --> 01:14:00,320 now that we're post uh the World Cup games and we're closing uh the FIFA 863 01:13:58,480 --> 01:14:05,280 activation if you will and really focusing on that that uh site activation 864 01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:09,360 to try and see what our our visitation looks like post FIFA. So when we don't 865 01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:13,199 have a big event in town but trying to get a sense of what kind of visitors 866 01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:16,480 might we see at all three sites. Uh these represent essentially the 867 01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:20,800 evolutions occurring at all three sites as we move forward in terms of the 868 01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:25,920 actual on the ground change. Typically, you're seeing the stages removed. Uh 869 01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:31,840 you'll see the archways removed. You'll see some of the uh decoration and the 870 01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:37,040 branding shift as we move into this post World Cup time frame. Um you are seeing 871 01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:41,280 the bulk of the furniture, the the big video screens uh remaining and we are 872 01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:45,199 seeing the vendors or the operators of each site begin to shift how they're 873 01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:48,960 approaching uh opportunities during the day. Well, call to the council's 874 01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:53,440 attention. You saw the visitation did modify throughout the day. We had our 875 01:14:51,679 --> 01:14:57,679 operators running from like a 10 to 10:00 time frame. If most of the 876 01:14:56,000 --> 01:15:01,679 visitors are occurring later in the day, we may want to shift operations at each 877 01:14:59,440 --> 01:15:04,560 site. And with that, uh, mayor, city council, I'm happy to answer any 878 01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:08,320 questions you may have or uh, wrap up and turn back to city manager Young. 879 01:15:06,719 --> 01:15:11,320 » Thank you. >> Question. 880 01:15:13,199 --> 01:15:23,520 » Thank you. Um, great info. Um, I love seeing data and 881 01:15:19,199 --> 01:15:29,360 I'm glad that we finally got two craft breweries in our city. Uh, albe it 882 01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:35,120 temporary. Um, super uh, so the the feedback I've been 883 01:15:32,719 --> 01:15:40,080 getting from the community uh, has overall been very positive. Um, and some 884 01:15:38,239 --> 01:15:44,800 folks, you know, about time we got something and very happy there's a a 885 01:15:42,480 --> 01:15:49,600 familyfriendly place where they can go um and bring the kids and dogs and stuff 886 01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:54,159 like that. Um, so overall super happy about that. I have a couple of questions 887 01:15:52,080 --> 01:16:00,560 about the um visitor 888 01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:10,239 number count. So from what I have heard uh we have been um getting these numbers 889 01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:13,760 through the um RTA we're doing it ourselves. 890 01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:19,520 » Uh so I'll remind the council that placer AI data is a subscription 891 01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:21,600 subscription that the city of CATAC pays for directly 892 01:16:20,239 --> 01:16:25,600 » and we're we're paying them directly. We're not going through the uh RTA like 893 01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:29,920 we were in the past for some of this stuff. Uh we really with AI data we've 894 01:16:28,480 --> 01:16:33,440 been contracting directly to my knowledge uh really since we started 895 01:16:31,679 --> 01:16:37,520 collecting. Okay. We use lodging tax funding to pay for it because it is 896 01:16:35,199 --> 01:16:41,040 » so we have so we have direct access to all of this information because I know 897 01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:43,280 there's more than just what is presented here. Right. 898 01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:50,080 » Yes. Okay. >> I would be interested in that. We can 899 01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:59,280 take that offline. Um, also I heard that that service only counts or rather does 900 01:16:56,400 --> 01:17:04,960 not count or is unable to count international cell phone which was a 901 01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:08,960 vast majority of the travelers that were coming through our city. So there's a 902 01:17:06,480 --> 01:17:11,440 chunk missing from this number. Is that right? 903 01:17:09,679 --> 01:17:17,120 » That is correct, council member. and and truly this is intended as a preliminary 904 01:17:13,440 --> 01:17:21,679 flavor uh at the end of the activation site. So I'm anticipating this fall we 905 01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:26,320 will have both the place or AI information which as you said uh picks 906 01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:31,360 up uh non- international phone numbers and we have asked the operators of each 907 01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:37,040 site to keep track of visitation. So we have both an on the ground count and a a 908 01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:43,120 separate data source if you will. Um and this is intended as the preliminary 909 01:17:38,719 --> 01:17:49,199 snapshot. Okay. Um, so I'm curious about the number of 910 01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:56,239 visitor visits and the you know estimated number of visitors because uh 911 01:17:52,320 --> 01:18:03,120 I personally seen at um uh the media site uh there were six people who parked 912 01:18:01,199 --> 01:18:06,719 their car. They went to the angle uh parking garage, light wheel parking 913 01:18:04,719 --> 01:18:11,280 garage, parked their car, came out and uh I saw them and uh you know wearing a 914 01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:13,360 suit. So they were talking to me and they were like, "Hey, what's going on 915 01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:16,960 across the street?" I said, "Oh yeah, they we've got this activation site. Why 916 01:18:15,199 --> 01:18:20,719 don't you go check it out and all that?" So um they said, "Do they have a 917 01:18:18,719 --> 01:18:25,360 bathroom?" I said, "They probably do. Go check it out." And so they went there. 918 01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:29,520 Six people hung around a little bit, used the bathroom, came back, got on 919 01:18:27,199 --> 01:18:34,080 light rail, and left. They did not buy anything. Okay. And and they did hang 920 01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:38,800 out for I don't know maybe 10 minutes or something like that or taking turns. So 921 01:18:36,719 --> 01:18:42,960 does that count as a visit? >> Yes, 922 01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:49,120 » it does. So my concern here is that we know because we have an airport and 923 01:18:45,440 --> 01:18:53,600 hotels that um you know visitor visitors is great. High visitor numbers. We get a 924 01:18:51,199 --> 01:18:59,360 100,000 visitors every single day. That's awesome. Okay. But what really 925 01:18:55,920 --> 01:19:04,640 counts for us is um 926 01:19:01,440 --> 01:19:10,800 visitors don't necessarily translate to sales, right? And sales is what keep 927 01:19:08,159 --> 01:19:14,000 things like this sustainable, right? And that is something I've been hearing from 928 01:19:12,159 --> 01:19:18,320 our business open up this type of business because it 929 01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:22,400 might not be sustainable. Like so I'm curious, can we get the 930 01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:28,480 sales numbers at some point? see what that looks like because I'd like to be 931 01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:31,679 able to show look it it's sustainable because the sales have been increasing 932 01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:34,960 or whatever whatever those numbers happen to be and so I I'm more 933 01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:38,960 interested in that. >> Uh no I appreciate that council member 934 01:19:37,440 --> 01:19:43,040 pardon me for saying it again these are preliminary numbers. I I will note the 935 01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:49,600 graph in the lower leftand corner would pick up the average duration of visits 936 01:19:46,480 --> 01:19:54,000 and the the bars to the left hand side of that graph represent short visit 937 01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:57,840 times and really what I called [clears throat] out in my initial 938 01:19:54,960 --> 01:20:02,480 presentation is the bulk of those visits exceeded 150 hours but we did get some 939 01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:07,760 as you said a moment ago uh that were in that 5 to 10 minute range. the sales tax 940 01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:10,880 information typically runs about two months after the sales tax is collected, 941 01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:15,120 » right? >> So, uh, for the period, you know, we're 942 01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:19,199 focused on right now, May to July, we we really need to have a conversation in 943 01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:24,880 that September, October time frame, uh, to have any kind of meaningful feedback 944 01:20:21,199 --> 01:20:29,600 in terms of sales tax revenue. Um the purpose of including the visits before 945 01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:34,640 and after two CATC businesses was just to give you a sense of the pattern of uh 946 01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:38,640 visitors or travelers coming to the site and what percentage were potentially 947 01:20:36,239 --> 01:20:41,679 going to another business location. It doesn't speak to actual revenue though 948 01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:47,199 to your point, council member. So when that time comes, I'd like to um see if 949 01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:52,239 we could separate the activation site sales tax revenue versus the other stuff 950 01:20:50,239 --> 01:20:55,600 because I know our hotel occupants full occupancy and all of that stuff and so 951 01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:59,840 all the sales tax going to be up during FEA for sure, right? But but we need to 952 01:20:58,159 --> 01:21:03,120 be able to determine how successful were the activation sites specifically, 953 01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:08,000 right? And so that I would be interested in that. Um also have a question 954 01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:12,800 regarding the the funding. So, um I see that we've got we've invested quite a 955 01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:18,320 bit of general fund into this. Um I thought we also had state funding 956 01:21:16,159 --> 01:21:21,920 for this or towards something towards public safety or something like that, 957 01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:23,520 remember? And so how is that is that represented here? How is that 958 01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:28,159 represented? >> Uh it it's rep unfortunately it's 959 01:21:26,159 --> 01:21:33,440 represented by its absence to some extent. So you'll see in the the third 960 01:21:30,719 --> 01:21:38,239 row on the graph behind me, we had uh police and security staffing and we 961 01:21:35,440 --> 01:21:44,159 originally budgeted $360,000 for that and we've spent $29,000 and 962 01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:48,080 really uh credit to former Captain Smith or pardon me, Chief Smith uh with the 963 01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:52,880 city of SeaTac. he really worked with this uh pardon me um King County 964 01:21:50,480 --> 01:21:57,760 Sheriff's Office to cover the cost of the additional police uh services uh 965 01:21:55,679 --> 01:22:01,600 during the the period of time that we're talking about. So that's that's where 966 01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:06,320 that underspend comes from. I'm not aware of state or federal funds off the 967 01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:09,760 top of my my recollection. I can consult with uh director pyo and make sure I 968 01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:13,040 haven't missed something here in my reporting too. 969 01:22:10,639 --> 01:22:18,320 » Okay. So, uh, my concern here is that, and I pointed this out before FEIFA, 970 01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:23,920 that when mega events visit areas, uh, the the, uh, cities that are not well 971 01:22:21,679 --> 01:22:27,840 prepared end up actually losing money from the event. And so, I want to make 972 01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:31,040 sure that we did not lose money. And if we did, how much did we lose from this 973 01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:36,320 event? We need to compare the total sales tax increase revenue versus a 974 01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:40,239 normal non-FIFA year uh, versus how much we spent on all of this other stuff. and 975 01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:42,320 and hopefully we come out positive at the end of the day. 976 01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:46,960 » I appreciate that, Council. >> All right. Thank you. 977 01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:53,280 » Thank you, Counc. >> Thank you, Mayor. Um, 978 01:22:49,679 --> 01:22:58,960 first, thank you for breaking out how uh much small detailed work like daytoday 979 01:22:56,960 --> 01:23:04,320 all the staff did. Um, the amount of time just watering plants I think is 980 01:23:00,719 --> 01:23:07,360 just it's a testament to to how behind the scenes like every the reason why it 981 01:23:06,239 --> 01:23:10,159 looks so good all the time is because people are there doing the work every 982 01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:15,120 day. So, thank you. I I really appreciated that. Um, while we're on 983 01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:22,639 this slide, I had a question about the Nlloxxone spending. Um, did we 984 01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:29,040 was it budgeted at like almost 42,000 based off of some kind of estimate and 985 01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:33,520 has have we talked with the hotel staff? I believe staff were working to to 986 01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:37,600 educate um the hotel staff there just kind of like what that looked like if 987 01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:42,239 there was other kinds of responses um that 988 01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:46,159 » we did budget the 42,000 to or you are reading that that graph correctly. uh we 989 01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:50,639 did acquire Nlloxxone and we did distribute it to our hotel uh partners 990 01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:54,719 and we did provide training to the hotel years in terms of how to how to apply 991 01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:58,400 Nlloxxone in in the case of an emergency. 992 01:23:56,000 --> 01:24:00,960 » Uh I I don't have specifics on that this evening council member but I'm happy to 993 01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:05,040 follow up after. >> That would be great. I know that this 994 01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:09,760 obviously is very um focused on the three activation sites. I would just be 995 01:24:06,719 --> 01:24:14,239 curious on if that that is a reasonable number, if that makes sense, or maybe 996 01:24:11,679 --> 01:24:17,520 our like our hotel staff were were really on it. Public safety is just 997 01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:19,520 really high up there. I'd just love some more context for that. 998 01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:24,239 » Thank you. >> That's all. Thank you, 999 01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:28,800 » Councilman. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um Evan, thank you 1000 01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:32,480 again for this presentation. Understand these uh the information here is 1001 01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:37,120 preliminary. Um, but first and foremost, I do want to thank the staff um for 1002 01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:42,719 putting this all together. Um, I understand procuring some of these items 1003 01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:47,199 um during, you know, FIFA season when we have competing um jurisdictions also 1004 01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:52,560 looking for similar items, we still got it done um and we did so very did so 1005 01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:59,040 safely. So, I just wanted to first thank the staff um publicly and personally for 1006 01:24:56,080 --> 01:25:03,040 putting this event on. Um I do agree with the the previous uh speakers. Um I 1007 01:25:01,440 --> 01:25:08,239 would like to know at some point the economic impact that this has brought to 1008 01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:12,639 the city of SeaTac uh return on investment. Um and just also just 1009 01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:17,120 lessons learned. But just looking at the information here personally visiting all 1010 01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:22,239 three sites I I think we did a phenomenal job. U just saying that 1011 01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:26,560 again. I can't say that enough actually. Um, 1012 01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:31,600 I don't have any I don't have any additional comments other than just a 1013 01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:37,199 multitude of gratitude for the hard work that this all took and looking forward 1014 01:25:34,480 --> 01:25:40,320 to the final numbers. So, so thank you guys again. 1015 01:25:38,159 --> 01:25:46,800 » Thank you council. >> Multitude of gratitude. I I I I I want 1016 01:25:44,639 --> 01:25:51,360 to second that actually and you know it was really amazing how things came 1017 01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:58,080 together. I mean shorty time very difficulty time and and we we did good 1018 01:25:56,080 --> 01:26:03,360 and the staff did excellent work and I'm very grateful that we did uh the numbers 1019 01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:11,120 actually we I can assure you we make a lot of ton of tax for the world people 1020 01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:16,000 the hotels was full the city was I I have been all 1021 01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:20,960 two of the occupation site and sometimes we couldn't even find tea uh especially 1022 01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:24,560 in the evening. So, thank you very much, sir. 1023 01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:28,880 » City manager, Mr. Kwan, >> could we? 1024 01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:36,480 » Yeah, I I'll be brief. So, uh as part of um the uh skateboard committee and and 1025 01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:43,840 various other committees, I learned that the USA is in the bid to host the 1026 01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:49,199 upcoming women's FIFA World Cup in 2031. That's in five years. they might return 1027 01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:53,199 here and that's going to be another huge influx if it does. We don't know yet. 1028 01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:57,920 It's five years away. So I I would like to make sure that we have this dialed in 1029 01:26:55,840 --> 01:27:03,040 because this was you know basically the the learning moment right so that we are 1030 01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:08,639 very well prepared if in case it comes here returns in five years. Thank you. 1031 01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:13,520 » I appreciate that. Council member maybe just one follow-up comment and I'll I'll 1032 01:27:10,639 --> 01:27:18,080 move away. Mayor, uh, we are we do have a scheduled debrief event, um, at the 1033 01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:22,239 staff on the staff side of things in August for I think exactly what Council 1034 01:27:20,239 --> 01:27:26,000 Member Vincent and and Quan mentioned a moment ago, which is lessons learned. 1035 01:27:24,159 --> 01:27:30,320 How can we do this perhaps more smoothly the next time it was a bit of a a 1036 01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:34,400 stressor in the moment. So, thank you, council members. Thank you, Mayor. 1037 01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:38,480 » Thank you. Uh, picking up where Evan left off, as 1038 01:27:36,719 --> 01:27:42,560 he alluded to, we would like to come back to you at your next regularly 1039 01:27:40,639 --> 01:27:46,719 scheduled council meeting on August 11th, so that you can at least talk 1040 01:27:44,480 --> 01:27:50,880 through the benefits and uh weigh the the possibility of uh extending a 1041 01:27:49,199 --> 01:27:54,480 security contract that would allow some of our activation zones to stay active 1042 01:27:52,880 --> 01:28:00,000 through the fall so that we can keep that amenity uh open for public through 1043 01:27:57,520 --> 01:28:07,040 the through the fall. I would ask for referral of a contract amendment for 1044 01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:13,920 FIFA security uh security for our FIFA activation zones 1045 01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:18,880 to the August 11th meeting as well as a resolution memorializing the council's 1046 01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:25,600 direction from your council study session on uh July 14th on the proposed 1047 01:28:22,719 --> 01:28:28,639 options and sequencing of the schedule for the international village. I would 1048 01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:32,639 ask for both of those items to be referred to your next regularly 1049 01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:36,400 scheduled council meeting on August 11th. 1050 01:28:34,239 --> 01:28:41,760 » Yes. >> See the majority of thumbs up. 1051 01:28:39,440 --> 01:28:44,000 » Yes. >> Very good. All right. Thank you for 1052 01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:48,960 that. uh would also ask for referral to the 1053 01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:54,480 August 11th council study session, an update on your council request forms, 1054 01:28:51,199 --> 01:28:58,159 CRFs, and also a preview of the sequencing of of events for your 1055 01:28:56,320 --> 01:29:03,120 upcoming bianual budget. So, I'd like to spend some time talking through that if 1056 01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:08,159 I just have a thumbs up for referral. Very good. Um, couple more 1057 01:29:05,679 --> 01:29:12,639 administrative matters. Uh, on your agenda tonight is a grant application 1058 01:29:10,239 --> 01:29:17,360 for the King County Minor Home Repair. that's on your consent agenda. A little 1059 01:29:14,639 --> 01:29:22,560 bit unusual because the uh dollar amount of $150,000 is normally the threshold 1060 01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:26,480 where we would not bring this to you on consent. This was a requirement actually 1061 01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:33,280 from King County. And so it's satisfying their obligations for council approval 1062 01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:36,080 of the uh grant application. And so even though it's only at the application 1063 01:29:34,480 --> 01:29:39,840 phase, it appears on your consent so that we can satisfy the elements of King 1064 01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:44,817 County in applying for it. So, just wanted to point out that nuance to why 1065 01:29:42,480 --> 01:29:48,560 that appears on your agenda tonight. [gasps] 1066 01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:55,280 Um, also [clears throat] earlier this month, I uh sent you a copy of the uh 1067 01:29:52,159 --> 01:29:59,679 planning commission's midyear report as uh transmitted and prepared by our 1068 01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:03,920 community and economic development staff. Uh we have staff with us if you 1069 01:30:02,480 --> 01:30:06,719 have any questions about the planning commission's upcoming work plan. 1070 01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:11,760 Otherwise, just wanted to make sure that you were informed of that work plan and 1071 01:30:09,440 --> 01:30:15,040 I'll pause and see if there are any questions or comments. Otherwise, staff 1072 01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:17,440 are always available to you if you have questions offline. We can certainly 1073 01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:21,040 connect you. >> All right, times up. Understood. Good. 1074 01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:26,400 Okay, >> very good. Uh just a few upcoming events 1075 01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:30,239 to make sure everyone is aware of. It's a really busy week as we already heard. 1076 01:30:28,239 --> 01:30:36,080 Uh the pros consulting team will be back here tomorrow night um giving their 1077 01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:42,719 update on the parks rec recreation and open space plan. Uh we also have 1078 01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:48,719 tomorrow night a summer market and music in the park from 5 to 8:00 p.m. 1079 01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:53,679 on also tomorrow. Uh just in case you get 1080 01:30:51,440 --> 01:30:59,199 any questions from community members, we were alerted by Port of Seattle that the 1081 01:30:56,159 --> 01:31:04,719 FAA is conducting a training exercise in which it's possible that they may be 1082 01:31:01,440 --> 01:31:08,639 practicing uh rescuing people and there could be repelling from a bridge just if 1083 01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:11,840 people drive by and say why are there people suspended from a bridge? It's a 1084 01:31:10,480 --> 01:31:15,520 training exercise. There's nothing serious going on at the port. uh they 1085 01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:19,280 are putting out that messaging and we are amplifying it as well just to make 1086 01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:24,080 sure in times of heightened security concerns that there's no uh concern from 1087 01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:29,360 community. Uh Thursday, July 30th, there's a 1088 01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:34,639 chamber of commerce event where uh I will be uh sharing an update on our 1089 01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:39,040 business and occupation tax plans as well as our financial strategy uh making 1090 01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:43,040 sure that small business owners are aware of the uh efforts that we're 1091 01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:47,679 contemplating as part of the bienial preparation effort. Again, that's uh 1092 01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:51,840 Thursday night uh being hosted at the Chamber of Commerce. 1093 01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:59,440 On July 31st, there's theater in the park and Friday flick series is on 1094 01:31:55,920 --> 01:32:04,480 August 11th. And so that concludes our updates. I do just want to give a quick 1095 01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:09,440 nod of uh gratitude to city staff in setting up a a different venue for us 1096 01:32:06,480 --> 01:32:13,679 tonight. Uh flexing a different muscle to get out and have these meetings out 1097 01:32:11,440 --> 01:32:18,159 in uh a different part of the city. While tonight's event is not teaming 1098 01:32:16,159 --> 01:32:22,719 with community members, it is a reflection of our ability to do this. 1099 01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:28,159 That is really an important part of uh one uh building an exercise to get out 1100 01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:32,960 in public and be other spaces. And so we anticipated that this may not be the the 1101 01:32:30,719 --> 01:32:37,040 most action-packed agenda. That was actually by design because we were 1102 01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:41,040 thinking that uh if we had any technology glitches tonight, we didn't 1103 01:32:38,719 --> 01:32:46,880 want to have some of our mediious topics not covered and have the possibility of 1104 01:32:43,440 --> 01:32:51,600 the the miss. So, so far things are going well and we appreciate council and 1105 01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:56,239 staff's uh cooperation with this uh pilot of a new space. Thank you. 1106 01:32:53,920 --> 01:33:02,000 » Thank you, city manager Young. Any question, comment or shall we move on? 1107 01:32:59,199 --> 01:33:07,920 » Beautiful. Okay, let's move on. The next item will be committ committee updates 1108 01:33:04,480 --> 01:33:13,120 and we have only one uh transportation and public one. 1109 01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:17,600 » Thank you. Uh I'll try to keep this brief. So the transportation and public 1110 01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:26,639 work committee met uh last week on July 23rd and we discussed the um 1111 01:33:24,480 --> 01:33:33,280 construction contract. So this is for the airport station uh area 1112 01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:38,880 improvements. Um the uh contract went out to bid and the 1113 01:33:36,159 --> 01:33:44,000 um committee discussed the project funding, the schedule, contingency, 1114 01:33:41,440 --> 01:33:47,040 contractor oversight, um maintaining access to nearby residences and 1115 01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:52,400 businesses during construction. We want to make sure that uh the the people in 1116 01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:59,360 our city are not uh severely impacted during the construction process. Uh we 1117 01:33:56,880 --> 01:34:03,040 uh do have we confirm that sufficient funding is available for the current 1118 01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:06,719 bienium and that access will be maintained throughout the construction. 1119 01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:13,199 The committee recommended to forward this as agenda bill uh 6845 to the 1120 01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:18,000 August 11th uh council meeting coming up as an action item. So we will all have 1121 01:34:15,440 --> 01:34:25,199 an opportunity to review this uh contract. We also talked about um we had 1122 01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:33,520 anformational update regarding the um electrification of our uh fleet. So uh 1123 01:34:30,239 --> 01:34:39,360 few years ago the city decided to uh move to electrif electrify our fleet 1124 01:34:36,480 --> 01:34:46,639 vehicles in order to uh provide uh more efficient services and potentially save 1125 01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:52,000 uh money over uh in the future. And uh we talked about uh vehicle utilization 1126 01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:57,199 uh performance m metrics emissions maintenance cost battery life total cost 1127 01:34:54,639 --> 01:35:01,600 of ownership uh for the electric hybrid gasoline and diesel vehicles so that we 1128 01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:06,560 can compare those moving forward. um committee requested that future reports 1129 01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:10,000 include the uh baseline and per vehicle comparisons 1130 01:35:08,239 --> 01:35:14,960 as well as separate light duty vehicle data, electricity and fuel cost, hybrid 1131 01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:20,560 performance, maintenance expenses and fleet replacement considerations. Um we 1132 01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:25,520 had a lot of good data and overall it's uh positive because we are saving quite 1133 01:35:22,480 --> 01:35:30,239 a bit on uh fuel costs. So uh this is something that we will continue to 1134 01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:36,159 explore and uh discuss. Uh we also had an update regarding uh 1135 01:35:33,679 --> 01:35:42,080 ongoing recruitment efforts for uh public works and so um talked about the 1136 01:35:40,239 --> 01:35:46,480 organizational structure which includes engineering operations policy and 1137 01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:51,360 performance um and uh potential reorganization. So we the committee 1138 01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:55,679 discussed anticipated cost, operational efficiency, staffing levels, funding 1139 01:35:53,199 --> 01:36:00,000 sources and uh public value associated with the proposed organizational 1140 01:35:57,520 --> 01:36:03,440 changes. uh the committee requested additional information regarding 1141 01:36:01,440 --> 01:36:11,199 potential position changes and budget impacts. Um also uh the month of August 1142 01:36:07,440 --> 01:36:15,120 is typically a month when a lot of other committees including the PGtown regional 1143 01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:20,000 council skateboard and various other committees usually try to keep the month 1144 01:36:17,440 --> 01:36:24,239 of August open with uh without any meetings. And so uh following that the 1145 01:36:22,480 --> 01:36:28,400 transportation public works committee will not have a meeting in August unless 1146 01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:34,480 there is an emergency and we must have a special meeting. So uh no meeting uh 1147 01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:38,719 forecast in August. That's all. Thanks. >> Thank you Mr. Kuan. [clears throat] Uh 1148 01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:44,960 the next item will meet the consent agenda. Christina I Christina Greg. Yes. 1149 01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:49,440 » The following item was reviewed at the June 25th transportation public works 1150 01:36:47,440 --> 01:36:54,800 committee meeting. Agenda bill number 6946, a motion authorizing the city 1151 01:36:52,239 --> 01:36:59,520 manager to execute interlocal agreements with Highline Water District, Midway 1152 01:36:57,199 --> 01:37:05,920 Sewer District, and Puget Sound Energy for the airport station area pedestrian 1153 01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:08,920 improvements project CATAC CIP number ST 141. 1154 01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:16,719 Do I have a motion to accept the consent agenda as presented? 1155 01:37:14,239 --> 01:37:20,560 » All right. Council members, uh, will you unmute your mic while I'm reading the 1156 01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:24,320 agenda, which is a motion to accepted the consent agenda as presented. Those 1157 01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:28,080 who are in favor say I. >> I. I. 1158 01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:35,280 » Those who are against say and I will be I. Okay. Action item. Agenda Bill uh 1159 01:37:32,719 --> 01:37:40,880 6951, an ordinance authorizing city manager to execute execute a contract 1160 01:37:38,159 --> 01:37:46,080 with the state of Washington. State of Washington for state fiscal 1161 01:37:42,719 --> 01:37:52,480 year 2027. Washington immigrant as asylum seeker support YMS program 1162 01:37:49,440 --> 01:37:57,440 funding authorizing the dist the distribution of program funding through 1163 01:37:54,639 --> 01:38:02,080 agreements with Congalles International Network CIN. 1164 01:38:00,159 --> 01:38:08,480 uh unparticipating uh hotelish the extension of the human 1165 01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:17,280 service coordinator temporary temporary limited temp uh position and amending 1166 01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:22,719 the 2025 2026 by annual uh budget. This will be total 1167 01:38:19,199 --> 01:38:28,159 15 minutes um presented by the our human service manager Aaron Brian Thomas and 1168 01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:33,560 human service coordinator Miriam Miatari. M Thomas it's all yours. 1169 01:38:34,480 --> 01:38:42,800 » Thank you Mayor Eall and good evening council members. Uh my name is Erin 1170 01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:48,719 Bryant Thomas, services manager with the city of PAC. I am joined by Miriam 1171 01:38:46,639 --> 01:38:51,840 Merry, our human coordinator for the wild mass program, our term limited 1172 01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:55,023 coordinator. >> Tonight, 1173 01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:57,440 » sorry, you have [clears throat] 1174 01:38:55,040 --> 01:39:03,400 » Yeah, we're struggling to hear you. >> Okay. 1175 01:38:59,440 --> 01:39:03,400 » You're cutting in and out. 1176 01:39:06,159 --> 01:39:15,199 » How is now? speak a little bit more so we can tell. 1177 01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:17,440 » My name is Aaron Bryant. >> No, 1178 01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:22,840 » no. Okay. So, how you want to handle this? 1179 01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:22,840 Do we uh 1180 01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:31,280 » Okay. Miam, can you speak? >> Testing. Um hello. Can you hear me? 1181 01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:36,560 Okay. >> Yes, you are better. Yeah. 1182 01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:41,679 » Okay. Wonderful. Wonderful. Um, uh, Erin, I think you have, uh, the deck up, 1183 01:39:38,719 --> 01:39:45,760 so uh, we could try to move forward. And if you all, uh, maybe Erin, you can turn 1184 01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:49,040 off your video. We'll see if your audio works a little better that way. 1185 01:39:47,679 --> 01:39:51,199 » Absolutely. >> Okay, perfect. 1186 01:39:49,679 --> 01:39:55,119 » We can get us started. I'll go ahead and share the screen, 1187 01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:58,960 » please. Thank you so much. >> And Erin, without your video, I think 1188 01:39:57,119 --> 01:40:03,040 you sounded a lot better. >> Oh, thank you, Christina. Alrighty. 1189 01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:06,800 Well, I just wanted to send greetings and just extend my gratitude to the 1190 01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:14,360 council for allowing us to come before you this evening. Um, I'm getting our 1191 01:40:09,119 --> 01:40:14,360 presentation up and ready. One moment. 1192 01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:24,520 Okay, I am also getting an error message. 1193 01:40:26,719 --> 01:40:29,719 Standby. 1194 01:40:48,159 --> 01:40:58,000 Miam. This is Mayor. So, your microphone is good. If you can start and and and 1195 01:40:54,719 --> 01:41:03,600 Erin can actually uh when she's when she fix her computer, she can join you. 1196 01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:08,400 » Absolutely. Erin, I can uh share my screen and start the deck if that works 1197 01:41:06,639 --> 01:41:10,960 for you. Let me just 1198 01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:14,080 » let me make one more attempt. Here we go. 1199 01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:18,159 » Okay. >> How's that screen share coming over? 1200 01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:21,800 » Yes. >> Okay. 1201 01:41:19,780 --> 01:41:21,800 [clears throat] 1202 01:41:22,480 --> 01:41:28,480 » All right. We'll start right here at page two. Is audio still okay and visual 1203 01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:32,320 look good? >> Yeah. 1204 01:41:30,159 --> 01:41:37,520 » Thank you for your patience. So the purpose of tonight's presentation is to 1205 01:41:34,639 --> 01:41:41,920 present agenda bill 6951 which is an ordinance to authorizing the 1206 01:41:39,440 --> 01:41:46,400 city manager to one sign the contract between the state and the city of 1207 01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:51,760 SeaTac. Two sign the contracts between the city of SeaTac and our subcontractor 1208 01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:57,440 and our hotelers and three extend the human services coordinator TLT position 1209 01:41:53,840 --> 01:42:01,679 and amend the 202526 bianial budget. This builds on the parks and recck 1210 01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:09,320 committee uh review back on July 9th and highlights some of the changes that have 1211 01:42:03,440 --> 01:42:09,320 occurred since then. Um let's go 1212 01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:16,560 and I'll I'll pass it over to Miriam to take us through the meat of the 1213 01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:21,920 presentation this evening. Miriam. >> Absolutely. So, um, as you may have seen 1214 01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:26,000 initially, uh, our parks and recreation, uh, council members and the committee 1215 01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:29,040 had actually put this, uh, item on the consent agenda, but as staff, we we 1216 01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:32,719 pulled it off because there were some changes that we wanted to bring, uh, 1217 01:42:30,719 --> 01:42:36,880 forward to you to the full council and really describe what has changed since, 1218 01:42:35,040 --> 01:42:42,320 uh, a couple of weeks ago when we did go to uh, parks and recreation uh, on July 1219 01:42:40,159 --> 01:42:47,119 9th. Uh, the first thing that has been updated by the state is the program 1220 01:42:44,239 --> 01:42:51,360 scope. Uh as you all are aware uh the city of CATC has been providing 1221 01:42:48,480 --> 01:42:55,920 emergency housing. Uh the state has approached all the housing providers and 1222 01:42:53,840 --> 01:43:00,400 asked to to merge those two outcome areas. 1223 01:42:56,480 --> 01:43:02,560 » I I want to take a five minutes recess. >> Okay. 1224 01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:07,199 » All right. And you can fix it your computer or microphone. 1225 01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:10,360 » All right. Not a problem. >> Don't worry. 1226 01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:37,920 It is 7:42. We are going to prevene 1227 01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:42,800 our uh council meeting on July uh 28, 2026. uh council members [clears throat] 1228 01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:49,840 are in the center actually we are meeting today in the community center so 1229 01:48:46,159 --> 01:48:52,840 Miriam and M Brian Thomas uh it is all yours 1230 01:48:57,920 --> 01:49:03,679 » thank you so much can you hear us okay oh Erin I think I cut you off I'm sorry 1231 01:49:02,159 --> 01:49:07,840 » I was just saying awesome thank you so much and welcome back everyone um one of 1232 01:49:06,639 --> 01:49:13,040 the things that I did want to make sure that I um touched on was the importance 1233 01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:17,040 of why we are presenting before you today. And so um in alignment with our 1234 01:49:15,199 --> 01:49:21,280 goals um goal number one which is building effective and accountable 1235 01:49:18,639 --> 01:49:24,960 government um managing the grant and implementing the W mass project really 1236 01:49:23,119 --> 01:49:30,000 demonstrates the city's ability to deliver on state funded initiatives, 1237 01:49:27,679 --> 01:49:34,960 ensuring transparency, accountability and responsiveness to community needs um 1238 01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:41,040 and increasing community trust. And secondly, um, creating and preserving 1239 01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:45,360 housing. And so the project directly addresses the critical need for housing 1240 01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:49,520 solutions, helping to provide stable living conditions for asylum seekers 1241 01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:55,199 while preserving housing resources in the region. It also ensures access to 1242 01:49:52,320 --> 01:49:59,360 all um for all to adequate, safe, and affordable housing and basic human 1243 01:49:57,119 --> 01:50:04,239 services. So, I didn't want to miss that opportunity um recognizing we have a 1244 01:50:01,679 --> 01:50:08,960 limited amount of time, but these are um two of the goals that we are striving to 1245 01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:14,800 achieve and that's why this issue is important um this evening. 1246 01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:19,040 Miriam, >> thank you, Erin. Um so as we mentioned 1247 01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:22,480 uh this item had uh previously been placed on the consent agenda but we are 1248 01:50:21,119 --> 01:50:26,639 wanting to to come in front of the council because there are a few things 1249 01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:32,480 that have changed since we went to parks and recreation on July 9th. Uh the first 1250 01:50:29,119 --> 01:50:37,760 is the program scope. Uh initially this uh item was reviewed as an emergency 1251 01:50:35,360 --> 01:50:42,639 hotel or emergency housing assistance. Since then the state has changed the 1252 01:50:40,080 --> 01:50:47,040 scope uh to include stable housing uh meaning housing navigation. So, our case 1253 01:50:45,199 --> 01:50:50,800 navigators will uh not only be supporting folks in emergency housing um 1254 01:50:49,119 --> 01:50:55,440 but also guiding them through the process of getting and securing stable 1255 01:50:53,040 --> 01:51:01,440 housing. Uh, additionally, there has been um that funding uh uh uh decrease. 1256 01:50:58,639 --> 01:51:06,560 Uh we initially mentioned that uh we've been awarded previously larger amounts. 1257 01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:11,360 This year it is down to $500,000 which has a direct impact across all the 1258 01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:15,920 areas of our budget. that includes a direct assistance, administrative and 1259 01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:21,040 operational uh budget costs which directly impact staff time. Uh lastly, 1260 01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:24,639 uh we're coming to you with a few options. Uh there were discussions 1261 01:51:22,480 --> 01:51:28,560 internally and uh the the team has come up with three options that we want to 1262 01:51:26,480 --> 01:51:32,800 present to council tonight for their consideration uh given the expanded 1263 01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:36,440 scope and the reduced administrative and operations capacity. 1264 01:51:37,679 --> 01:51:46,000 So, we're going to take a quick step back and look at state fiscal year 26 or 1265 01:51:43,199 --> 01:51:53,040 year two of this uh project. State fiscal year 26 uh just concluded in 1266 01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:59,440 June. Uh it ran from July 1st of 2025 till June uh 30th of 2026. Uh we were 1267 01:51:56,960 --> 01:52:06,560 awarded $750,000 uh by way of a contract amendment. uh we 1268 01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:10,639 served 114 asylum seeking families in that uh time period. We partnered with 1269 01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:15,119 the Congalles integration network to continue providing culturally responsive 1270 01:52:12,639 --> 01:52:19,679 services. Um this included meals, transportation, interpretation. Um some 1271 01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:23,920 uh light case management which included getting folks connected with uh food 1272 01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:29,040 benefits, medical benefits, uh education, uh getting kids enrolled in 1273 01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:33,840 school, adults into adult education uh with also some um uh job readiness 1274 01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:39,760 activities happening uh by uh through the CIN um uh network of of support. Uh 1275 01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:43,840 we also work to strengthen our regional partnerships. We do see this as a we 1276 01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:48,960 take we take a regional approach. We are part of a network uh of different 1277 01:52:46,159 --> 01:52:52,880 providers uh as well as the state and so we were working to learn best practices 1278 01:52:50,639 --> 01:52:57,520 and share best practices in that time. Uh that was that proved really really 1279 01:52:54,800 --> 01:53:03,360 important in state fiscal year 26 given um the uh fiscal volatility of of uh 1280 01:53:00,880 --> 01:53:08,080 human services as a sector uh but also the everchanging policies at the federal 1281 01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:12,000 level that had a direct impact on human services here in the state of Washington 1282 01:53:09,599 --> 01:53:18,480 and particularly our human services budget as well um at the state level. Um 1283 01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:22,880 but all in all continues to be a trusted leader um in supporting asylumseeking 1284 01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:26,880 communities. uh we continue to be the only city that stepped up, raised our 1285 01:53:25,040 --> 01:53:31,599 hand to say that we want to support this work and applied for these funds. Um and 1286 01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:38,520 other cities followed suit uh primarily the city of Seattle um which is also 1287 01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:38,520 providing some some similar services. 1288 01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:47,280 So looking ahead at state fiscal year 27 uh what's going to be our role? Uh as we 1289 01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:51,040 mentioned the state has emerged uh the housing services that were provided 1290 01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:54,639 before. Uh if you may recall before emergency housing was separate from 1291 01:53:52,719 --> 01:54:00,159 stable housing. Now both of those has been merged to migrant housing services. 1292 01:53:58,080 --> 01:54:04,000 That includes the navigation piece in addition to the emergency housing. 1293 01:54:02,239 --> 01:54:09,199 Referred participants will get 30 days of emergency shelters. Um it's up to 30 1294 01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:13,679 days. Uh the state is giving us a lot of flexibility this year. If on day one 1295 01:54:11,679 --> 01:54:17,280 someone is housing ready, they don't need emergency housing, maybe they may 1296 01:54:15,440 --> 01:54:21,760 already have uh a steady stream of income through employment, uh we have 1297 01:54:19,199 --> 01:54:26,480 authorization to immediately um get them into uh housing navigation services and 1298 01:54:24,159 --> 01:54:30,560 help them stabilize sooner than that 30 days. So, we don't have an obligation 1299 01:54:28,239 --> 01:54:34,880 for folks to be in in a hotel awaiting stable housing um up, you know, at that 1300 01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:40,960 30-day marker. Uh folks will still continue to receive case management and 1301 01:54:37,440 --> 01:54:45,360 legal services and um if they do need uh services beyond the service period, 1302 01:54:42,880 --> 01:54:50,000 meaning if their aotment of uh rental assistance or their legal needs do 1303 01:54:47,360 --> 01:54:53,840 expand, um the the state has again extended flexibility for participants to 1304 01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:58,880 come back and continue receiving those services. um considering the the the 1305 01:54:56,000 --> 01:55:03,280 current climate. Um again, the big thing we want to make sure we mention here is 1306 01:55:00,639 --> 01:55:08,800 that the city's scope has gone beyond emergency housing. It in and includes 1307 01:55:06,159 --> 01:55:12,199 housing navigation as part of the the outcome area. 1308 01:55:13,920 --> 01:55:19,920 Uh again, ongoing changes and implications. We have that that funding 1309 01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:25,199 decrease we mentioned. Uh but with that decrease has also uh we've also seen a 1310 01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:30,159 decrease in our um the expectations that the state has of us for performance. Uh 1311 01:55:28,159 --> 01:55:36,080 this new fiscal year we are being asked to serve 34 households in a combination 1312 01:55:33,280 --> 01:55:40,880 of emergency and housing navigation uh with those reduced dollars and again um 1313 01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:45,920 the operations and administrative costs have been cut uh down to $150,000. 1314 01:55:44,480 --> 01:55:51,040 Uh in our negotiations with the Congolese integration network uh we have 1315 01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:56,880 landed at $90,000 staying retaining um the city of SeaTac retaining $90,000 and 1316 01:55:53,760 --> 01:56:02,560 $60,000 going to the the city sorry to the Congolese integration network for 1317 01:55:59,199 --> 01:56:10,040 staffing that translates to about 31.8 hours uh per week for city of SeaTac 1318 01:56:05,440 --> 01:56:10,040 staffing to support this project. 1319 01:56:12,719 --> 01:56:19,520 uh a bit more about the the staffing impact again um we have seen that 1320 01:56:17,040 --> 01:56:26,560 reduction in the administrative uh side of things down to 31.8 hours per week. 1321 01:56:23,040 --> 01:56:32,159 um that roughly translates to about 605 hours in uh state in the first first 1322 01:56:29,920 --> 01:56:39,679 part of the state fiscal year 27 which is August to December of this year and 1323 01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:45,760 then next year uh uh 2027 that'll be 580 hours uh again 90K designated to support 1324 01:56:43,199 --> 01:56:49,679 uh the position and so internally we're having conversations around what what 1325 01:56:47,280 --> 01:56:54,560 that does look like in terms of um the scaled administrative capacity while 1326 01:56:52,480 --> 01:56:58,400 weighing the the expanded program requirements um and also supporting the 1327 01:56:56,719 --> 01:57:03,400 Congolese integration network as they they advance this work in partnership 1328 01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:03,400 with the city. 1329 01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:10,639 So let's shift gears a little bit to uh the documents that we have in front of 1330 01:57:08,159 --> 01:57:16,480 you. We have an ordinance as well as a few contracts. Um, this ordinance uh 1331 01:57:13,599 --> 01:57:21,520 authorizes the city manager to amend the interlocal agreement with DSHS Ora, the 1332 01:57:19,520 --> 01:57:27,840 office of refugee and immigrant assistance at the state level for state 1333 01:57:24,719 --> 01:57:33,440 fiscal year 27. The ordinance also authorizes uh city manager um young to 1334 01:57:31,440 --> 01:57:37,760 execute contracts with the congalles integration network for services on the 1335 01:57:35,440 --> 01:57:42,719 ground operations and also two designated hotelier to provide the 1336 01:57:39,840 --> 01:57:48,080 emergency uh housing uh aspect of the work. Um it also extends the temporary 1337 01:57:45,119 --> 01:57:55,760 limited term human services uh position and amends the city's 2025 to 2026 1338 01:57:51,760 --> 01:58:01,280 bianial budget. So again, those are the ordinance, a contract with CIN, as well 1339 01:57:58,719 --> 01:58:05,639 as our contracts with our two hotelers for a total of four contracts. 1340 01:58:07,599 --> 01:58:14,320 Um Erin, uh if you don't mind speaking uh to to this. So again, the the staff 1341 01:58:12,159 --> 01:58:18,159 did come together and come up with three options that we would like to present to 1342 01:58:16,000 --> 01:58:21,840 the council for consideration today in terms of guidance on how to move forward 1343 01:58:20,159 --> 01:58:26,177 given this new changes that have been have been um presented to the city. 1344 01:58:24,159 --> 01:58:29,520 » Yeah, thank you so much Miriam. [clears throat] So council members, we 1345 01:58:27,599 --> 01:58:34,800 have before you three options. Option number one would be to authorize the 1346 01:58:31,840 --> 01:58:40,320 execution of the state fiscal year 27 while mass agreement and direct staff to 1347 01:58:37,440 --> 01:58:46,719 prepare a distant card regarding general fund 001 resources to supplement the 1348 01:58:43,920 --> 01:58:52,480 human services coordinator TLT position. Uh maintain staffing capacity but 1349 01:58:50,000 --> 01:58:58,000 additional funding is not guaranteed and will require future council approval. So 1350 01:58:55,199 --> 01:59:03,119 that's option number one. Option number two, authorize execution of the 1351 01:59:00,719 --> 01:59:07,920 agreement and direct the city manager to engage the state regarding additional 1352 01:59:05,679 --> 01:59:12,320 administrative funding or further reductions to required outcomes and 1353 01:59:10,719 --> 01:59:16,800 scope. And lastly, option number three, decline 1354 01:59:15,119 --> 01:59:21,360 to authorize execution of this agreement. The city would forfeit 1355 01:59:19,040 --> 01:59:26,840 $500,000 in state funding and discontinue the city administered W mass 1356 01:59:23,840 --> 01:59:26,840 program. 1357 01:59:38,719 --> 01:59:44,320 All righty. And the last time we were before you again, we uh were there at 1358 01:59:43,119 --> 01:59:47,920 the parks and recreation committee meeting on July 9th. Um and the parks 1359 01:59:46,560 --> 01:59:52,639 and recck committee reviewed the state fiscal year 27 wass program and the 1360 01:59:50,560 --> 01:59:57,840 associated grant award. The committee recommended forwarding the item to the 1361 01:59:54,239 --> 02:00:03,199 consent agenda and staff. Uh since uh that meeting staff received additional 1362 01:59:59,520 --> 02:00:06,639 clarification as Miriam shared um and we've prepared this presentation to 1363 02:00:04,880 --> 02:00:11,280 provide to council just a quick overview of the changes, the funding impacts and 1364 02:00:09,280 --> 02:00:17,040 operational considerations for your review. 1365 02:00:13,760 --> 02:00:22,080 And so tonight we are asking uh for you all to provide direction to us um on the 1366 02:00:19,840 --> 02:00:26,719 three alternatives. And so option number one, two or three regarding the 1367 02:00:24,320 --> 02:00:33,840 execution of state fiscal year 27 while mass agreement um agenda bill 6951 1368 02:00:30,880 --> 02:00:38,400 and the related budget amendment. Um staff is recommending that council 1369 02:00:36,320 --> 02:00:44,000 council direction requested um on options one through three. Um and I've 1370 02:00:41,679 --> 02:00:49,599 already stated the other um considerations below. We are happy 1371 02:00:47,679 --> 02:00:54,880 happy to answer questions and we do want to acknowledge that we have received um 1372 02:00:52,480 --> 02:00:59,840 questions from council member Kanye back on July 9th that we we believe we've 1373 02:00:57,360 --> 02:01:04,159 addressed. Um and then we received some questions today from council member 1374 02:01:01,679 --> 02:01:10,159 Vincent um that we hope we answered some of those questions um and if not we're 1375 02:01:07,199 --> 02:01:14,239 happy to follow up in um in writing, but I would love to open it up to uh full 1376 02:01:12,400 --> 02:01:16,239 counselor for for any questions that you all may have. Thank you for the 1377 02:01:15,440 --> 02:01:21,960 opportunity. >> Mayor, may I ask a clarifying question 1378 02:01:18,480 --> 02:01:21,960 of her, please? 1379 02:01:22,239 --> 02:01:30,000 » I I know it's out of the ordinary, but I'm trying to clarify with the three 1380 02:01:26,800 --> 02:01:34,239 options. If option one is what is in the packet already, so that that when you 1381 02:01:32,400 --> 02:01:38,400 make a motion that you're making a motion based on what's on here and then 1382 02:01:36,880 --> 02:01:42,560 you would if you want to do one of the alternatives, you would make an 1383 02:01:40,080 --> 02:01:46,639 amendment. Is that correct, Erin? That is correct, Christina, and I appreciate 1384 02:01:44,239 --> 02:01:51,679 you um offering that clarification. >> Thank you. 1385 02:01:49,119 --> 02:01:56,320 » Okay, so question and answer. Council mayor, 1386 02:01:54,159 --> 02:02:03,040 can I get a motion first, please? >> Okay, so um 1387 02:01:59,920 --> 02:02:10,480 do I have a motion to bend the bill? Am I ahead of my No, I the 1388 02:02:05,520 --> 02:02:15,800 bill number 692 51. >> So move. Okay, that's I just need 1389 02:02:12,800 --> 02:02:15,800 second. 1390 02:02:16,480 --> 02:02:24,239 » Okay, you you make a motion and Peter can second it or I can second. Right. 1391 02:02:21,280 --> 02:02:29,480 » So, this is a motion for all three options. 1392 02:02:25,760 --> 02:02:29,480 Can you clarify this? 1393 02:02:30,400 --> 02:02:39,440 » I am not 100% sure. And Erin, are you able to respond to that? 1394 02:02:36,239 --> 02:02:45,520 » Yes. Um, we are seeking um council guidance and direction um on how you all 1395 02:02:42,480 --> 02:02:49,119 would like for us to proceed. We were originally on consent agenda, 1396 02:02:47,440 --> 02:02:56,080 but based on what we've shared with you this evening, we would like for um the 1397 02:02:52,719 --> 02:03:01,920 council to provide guidance to us on how you would like staff to proceed. 1398 02:02:58,480 --> 02:03:08,159 So the the the the question the the the next step is that we have to accept it 1399 02:03:05,199 --> 02:03:14,560 to discuss this and I have to have a motion and second then we will discuss 1400 02:03:12,239 --> 02:03:20,400 these three options and then we will make recommendation on how to proceed 1401 02:03:17,679 --> 02:03:22,159 one of those options. Am I am I right Christina? 1402 02:03:21,599 --> 02:03:28,400 » Yes. >> Beautiful. So, do I have a motion to 1403 02:03:25,920 --> 02:03:31,040 discuss this uh >> to to pass the agenda bill as it was 1404 02:03:30,639 --> 02:03:34,159 presented? >> Agenda bill. 1405 02:03:32,320 --> 02:03:35,920 » A motion to pass the agenda bill as presented. 1406 02:03:34,960 --> 02:03:38,239 » Okay. Do I have second? >> Okay. I'll second that. 1407 02:03:36,880 --> 02:03:42,800 » Therefore, now we can talk about everything else. Okay. Good. Uh okay. 1408 02:03:40,239 --> 02:03:48,560 So, I will start council member Cona. >> Okay. Thank you, mayor. Um, and thank 1409 02:03:44,960 --> 02:03:53,760 you Miriam and Aaron um, for this presentation and specifically pulling 1410 02:03:51,520 --> 02:03:58,320 this from consent so that we can discuss given the changes. Um, I really 1411 02:03:55,760 --> 02:04:03,679 appreciate sharing this with the council in this capacity. Um 1412 02:04:02,850 --> 02:04:08,480 [sighs] this 1413 02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:14,639 this started as a grant and I from my understanding we are requesting or we 1414 02:04:11,360 --> 02:04:18,080 are exploring if CATAC will devote some of its general fund to make up the 1415 02:04:16,639 --> 02:04:21,080 difference in what the state has presented. 1416 02:04:21,199 --> 02:04:28,639 I very much so believe in this initiative and I know that the state is 1417 02:04:27,040 --> 02:04:34,159 hurting for money and so I know that this is a very important conversation. I 1418 02:04:31,040 --> 02:04:44,080 mean all cities are are kind of looking for ways to save. Um, but I just this 1419 02:04:38,639 --> 02:04:51,840 gives me pause because I also don't like hearing that and we hear this all the 1420 02:04:47,280 --> 02:04:57,679 time in in social services. Can we spend less on people doing the work and give 1421 02:04:54,480 --> 02:05:02,800 them more work to do? Um, I really really don't like that. And so I'll 1422 02:04:59,840 --> 02:05:08,080 start with I'm interested in pursuing how we can continue this program because 1423 02:05:05,920 --> 02:05:13,599 I do believe in it, but we're looking for additional administrative funding. 1424 02:05:10,320 --> 02:05:17,280 Um because there are two the two hotels are outside the city of SeaTac. I'm 1425 02:05:15,599 --> 02:05:21,920 curious if there's ways we can collaborate with the cities um that that 1426 02:05:20,560 --> 02:05:28,000 we're you know connecting these residents to um or just being creative. 1427 02:05:25,280 --> 02:05:31,520 I think CTAC has in my opinion has a reputation for being creative in this 1428 02:05:29,520 --> 02:05:38,239 way. So I would really like to pursue option two. But my other reservations 1429 02:05:34,880 --> 02:05:44,960 um are if we do take on a project that increases scope 1430 02:05:41,599 --> 02:05:50,880 like I mean very candidly like is it reasonable to assume that we could do 1431 02:05:47,599 --> 02:05:55,040 that work properly? We had a fantastic audit from DSHS that you all shared at 1432 02:05:53,119 --> 02:05:58,560 the parks and wreck meeting. And I don't want to like boil this all down to just 1433 02:05:56,639 --> 02:06:03,520 getting a a perfect audit every time. That's an amazing goal to have. But can 1434 02:06:00,880 --> 02:06:07,880 we do good work with this increased scope and reduction in staff? 1435 02:06:14,560 --> 02:06:17,560 Erin, 1436 02:06:18,480 --> 02:06:24,480 I believe council member Con asked you a question or 1437 02:06:22,880 --> 02:06:29,840 » I wasn't sure if you were making a statement or posing that question both I 1438 02:06:27,040 --> 02:06:34,560 think but um in in you know the work that you guys do every single day you 1439 02:06:32,560 --> 02:06:41,119 you see how much time you are putting towards each task. Do you believe that 1440 02:06:37,280 --> 02:06:47,040 with this increased scope that like and reduced hours for our team does does 1441 02:06:44,719 --> 02:06:52,639 that bode well for our ability to deliver on these services for people who 1442 02:06:48,880 --> 02:06:56,079 are in a pretty like high stress crisis environment? 1443 02:06:54,159 --> 02:07:00,719 » Yeah. No, you you bring up a really good point um asking you know folks to do 1444 02:06:58,639 --> 02:07:07,520 more with less. Um we've been in those situations before particularly in the 1445 02:07:02,960 --> 02:07:12,960 human services um you know uh field of work um where we have these es and flows 1446 02:07:10,239 --> 02:07:17,520 of of of of resources and resource constraints. Um but it is it is 1447 02:07:15,440 --> 02:07:23,920 extremely difficult to do good work really culturally specific and relevant 1448 02:07:19,599 --> 02:07:29,119 work. um being highly uh compliant and um you know to the point you made going 1449 02:07:26,320 --> 02:07:34,320 through um you know an audit with no findings um it does require a 1450 02:07:31,360 --> 02:07:40,320 significant amount of of work and a dedicated individual to ensure that um 1451 02:07:38,159 --> 02:07:44,800 you know our reporting and our fiscal stewardship and you know bottom line the 1452 02:07:43,440 --> 02:07:49,760 well-being of the individuals we're serving is intact. And so um you know 1453 02:07:47,360 --> 02:07:55,840 it's it is something very difficult um but I would say um it is difficult to do 1454 02:07:52,079 --> 02:07:59,679 this work um at a reduced rate but it would be even more difficult to do this 1455 02:07:57,360 --> 02:08:03,360 work um you know for it to be non-existent. I 1456 02:08:02,000 --> 02:08:08,560 hope that answers your question. >> It it does. And does this from the 1457 02:08:06,239 --> 02:08:13,679 presentation I'm understanding that this increased scope 1458 02:08:10,880 --> 02:08:18,639 is due to working through the state's migrant 1459 02:08:16,159 --> 02:08:23,119 housing model. Is that an okay initial assumption to 1460 02:08:20,880 --> 02:08:29,520 make? >> Ma'am, do you want to take that piece? 1461 02:08:26,960 --> 02:08:34,239 » Yes. Uh and the the short answer is is yes. Um I think what's happening at the 1462 02:08:31,760 --> 02:08:38,560 state level, we do know that uh Ora did change uh divisions as well. And so 1463 02:08:36,480 --> 02:08:44,320 they're also looking at policies, new policies that they're enacting. Um and 1464 02:08:41,840 --> 02:08:48,960 stability for individuals is is a big thing that folks are talking about right 1465 02:08:45,840 --> 02:08:53,920 now given the changes brought on by um by the one big beautiful bill and its 1466 02:08:50,800 --> 02:08:59,040 impacts uh locally. And so uh given that the state is changing its model to 1467 02:08:55,840 --> 02:09:03,440 really focus on that stability piece, um there has been that request for 1468 02:09:00,719 --> 02:09:09,360 providers uh to shift uh a and really like focus on not just um uh the triage 1469 02:09:06,880 --> 02:09:12,719 aspect of of housing, but also what does long-term stability look like for 1470 02:09:10,960 --> 02:09:21,119 households. >> Okay. So the the the state's migrant 1471 02:09:15,760 --> 02:09:27,840 housing model is is increasing capacity in the long-term stability. 1472 02:09:25,119 --> 02:09:33,360 » That is correct. So um a bigger portion of the budget has been dedicated towards 1473 02:09:30,400 --> 02:09:40,320 the direct assistance. Um just uh for context, previous years uh 60% to 65% 1474 02:09:37,199 --> 02:09:44,719 was dedicated towards um housing uh of the budget. uh this year 70% of the 1475 02:09:42,719 --> 02:09:49,199 budget is dedicated directly towards those uh housing costs or direct 1476 02:09:47,040 --> 02:09:54,480 assistance uh specifically to address that stability piece. Uh what we did see 1477 02:09:51,679 --> 02:09:58,400 was folks were coming back uh to uh providers asking for a little bit of 1478 02:09:56,079 --> 02:10:02,880 more support to help them in achieving that self-sufficiency. And so the idea 1479 02:10:00,719 --> 02:10:06,639 is to frontload that support so folks can achieve uh stability and 1480 02:10:04,400 --> 02:10:09,920 self-sufficiency uh much quicker and and more longlasting and meaningful 1481 02:10:08,320 --> 02:10:14,400 stability. >> Thank you. And um just to make sure that 1482 02:10:11,920 --> 02:10:19,760 we're using the same vocabulary when you say stability um 1483 02:10:17,599 --> 02:10:25,840 do you are you talking about participants who aren't 1484 02:10:22,480 --> 02:10:31,280 who who maintain status in this program or as connected to this initiative? 1485 02:10:29,360 --> 02:10:35,040 Like would they those individuals like when we're talking about stability are 1486 02:10:33,040 --> 02:10:41,280 and we're reporting out the outcomes of this is this like people housed and or 1487 02:10:38,560 --> 02:10:45,440 and or is this people who are continuing to receive services connected to this 1488 02:10:43,840 --> 02:10:49,199 initiative? I'm sorry. Does that make sense? 1489 02:10:47,360 --> 02:10:55,599 » Yeah, that does make sense and I hope I can answer uh your your question um uh 1490 02:10:52,239 --> 02:11:01,040 uh better. So stability in this context goes beyond the program participation 1491 02:10:58,320 --> 02:11:05,360 period. That means when we say we've closed out a case, this person, you 1492 02:11:02,800 --> 02:11:10,079 know, navigated through the different um uh stages of the of the program. They 1493 02:11:07,760 --> 02:11:15,119 came into emergency housing. Uh they were then assigned a case manager. They 1494 02:11:12,480 --> 02:11:19,840 then secured an apartment. Uh they got a job and they were exited out. Uh 1495 02:11:17,599 --> 02:11:24,480 stability is looking at throughout that continuum of services and beyond. So 1496 02:11:22,880 --> 02:11:30,079 stability is being measured by re-engagement. How often are folks 1497 02:11:26,800 --> 02:11:34,239 coming back to providers to say, "Hey, I've hit a stumbling block. This is 1498 02:11:31,920 --> 02:11:38,960 what's going on. This is uh why I need additional services." So re-engagement 1499 02:11:36,639 --> 02:11:44,159 is really the measure of stability. Uh are folks having to um you know give up 1500 02:11:41,840 --> 02:11:48,639 their apartments? Are folks uh slipping back into homelessness? Uh you know what 1501 02:11:46,480 --> 02:11:53,040 is really happening? And so stability and self-sufficiency again are just uh 1502 02:11:50,639 --> 02:11:57,199 marked by uh re-engagement. How how often are folks re-engaging with us to 1503 02:11:54,880 --> 02:12:00,800 ask for additional services and to what extent can the program provide those 1504 02:11:58,880 --> 02:12:06,079 additional services even beyond the city of CAC support really the program as a 1505 02:12:03,280 --> 02:12:12,079 whole statewide. >> Okay. Thank you. That does that does 1506 02:12:08,000 --> 02:12:16,719 clarify. Um, I I agree that the stability is is 1507 02:12:15,040 --> 02:12:21,679 important because, you know, as you're saying, if if folks are continuing to 1508 02:12:19,360 --> 02:12:26,639 re-engage services, it sounds like maybe the initial services didn't 1509 02:12:24,320 --> 02:12:31,440 meet the need that maybe that they had. Um, 1510 02:12:29,119 --> 02:12:35,119 um, that being said, I know I know that, um, there's a lot of questions because I 1511 02:12:33,520 --> 02:12:39,520 have also seen the emails. Um, so I don't want to take up too much time, but 1512 02:12:36,880 --> 02:12:45,440 um, I guess for clarity, I'm very interested in finding creative ways to 1513 02:12:42,079 --> 02:12:49,920 support this, I am cautious because I I recognize that this being a grant, um, I 1514 02:12:48,320 --> 02:12:55,599 know that we're going into our budget. I just rather if we are going to put Seaac 1515 02:12:52,639 --> 02:13:00,960 dollars that this we go we enter it into a position where we have more control 1516 02:12:57,440 --> 02:13:06,159 over what is happening. Um because I do really care about like you mentioned the 1517 02:13:03,280 --> 02:13:10,079 stability of residents and if every year we're like how much funding are we 1518 02:13:07,679 --> 02:13:13,199 getting? Is the state going to like slow roll every year give us less and less 1519 02:13:11,840 --> 02:13:16,719 funding until we just acquire this program? I would rather have that 1520 02:13:14,960 --> 02:13:21,599 conversation first as opposed to just peacemealing it over time. Um because 1521 02:13:19,440 --> 02:13:27,119 like I said this is as we know our community utilizes these services. 1522 02:13:23,920 --> 02:13:32,400 They're so important. Um, but when it comes to an unreliable budget year after 1523 02:13:30,079 --> 02:13:37,040 year, that that impacts the stability of people. So, um, again, I appreciate you 1524 02:13:35,679 --> 02:13:40,639 bringing this forward and and the transparency around around the changes 1525 02:13:38,960 --> 02:13:46,800 since we last discussed in the parks and rec committee. Thank you. 1526 02:13:43,760 --> 02:13:51,679 » Thank you, council member. Um, Elona, council member, 1527 02:13:49,040 --> 02:13:57,760 » thank you. Um, so yeah, this this is a complex issue. Um 1528 02:13:54,320 --> 02:14:03,280 uh obviously I I am very supportive of immigration. Uh I'm an immigrant myself 1529 02:14:00,800 --> 02:14:07,679 and I believe immigration is has an overall positive impact on our uh 1530 02:14:06,239 --> 02:14:15,040 community and our country and all of that stuff. Um so I remember when we 1531 02:14:11,920 --> 02:14:20,320 first had this discussion a few years ago uh the state offered this grant 1532 02:14:18,400 --> 02:14:26,159 money to the city saying, "Hey, we've got this crisis." um uh we have this 1533 02:14:23,280 --> 02:14:30,800 money available. Um it you know perhaps we can we can partner and help and all 1534 02:14:28,000 --> 02:14:37,599 of that stuff. And uh at the time it was a crisis. We had to move quickly and uh 1535 02:14:33,679 --> 02:14:42,800 the uh it the program the proposed program was fully funded. So it did not 1536 02:14:40,159 --> 02:14:47,040 cost the city anything. Okay? It was fully funded. And so I said, "Okay, 1537 02:14:45,280 --> 02:14:51,040 let's do this. Let's make sure we have an exit strategy at the end of the day 1538 02:14:48,880 --> 02:14:55,360 so that we don't, you know, years down the line." end up you know holding the 1539 02:14:53,119 --> 02:14:59,679 check having to pay the bill and that it looks like that's happening right now. 1540 02:14:56,800 --> 02:15:07,679 So during that time I have uh reached out to uh the state and uh organization. 1541 02:15:03,760 --> 02:15:12,960 So the way this um uh you know uh WASS which is the uh Washington migrant and 1542 02:15:09,920 --> 02:15:18,000 asylum seeker you know support program works is the state of Washington 1543 02:15:16,000 --> 02:15:24,159 actually administers this program and the grant funding and they have uh 1544 02:15:20,400 --> 02:15:29,280 partner organizations which they call um uh spoke spoke organizations and so 1545 02:15:26,800 --> 02:15:33,199 there's a bunch of them listed you know I'm already familiar with many of these 1546 02:15:30,880 --> 02:15:37,840 and I'm sure some of you are uh Catholic Community Services of Western Washington 1547 02:15:35,119 --> 02:15:42,480 is one of them. Um uh there's the Refugee Women's Alliance, WEWA. Um 1548 02:15:40,639 --> 02:15:46,320 there's the uh immigrant and refugee committee organization. There's the 1549 02:15:43,840 --> 02:15:50,400 International Rescue Committee, IRC, uh which is actually they have offices here 1550 02:15:47,920 --> 02:15:53,920 in SeaTac in our very own city. Uh the Northwest Immigrant Rights Project. 1551 02:15:52,239 --> 02:15:58,400 There's a whole list of organizations that are receiving direct grant funding 1552 02:15:56,239 --> 02:16:01,920 from the state and our partner spoke organization. 1553 02:16:00,000 --> 02:16:06,000 The Congalles Integration Network is not one of them. And the reason is because 1554 02:16:03,599 --> 02:16:09,920 we are acting as the clearing house in between getting the money and then 1555 02:16:08,000 --> 02:16:14,400 providing this and then doing some of the administrative stuff and and 1556 02:16:11,599 --> 02:16:19,679 whatnot. And and as a result, we're in a position like we're in this position we 1557 02:16:16,800 --> 02:16:22,880 are in today. So um all of these organizations are doing great work. I 1558 02:16:21,199 --> 02:16:29,360 have no doubt about that. They're doing very important work. Uh very critical. 1559 02:16:25,599 --> 02:16:34,479 Um years ago we had a similar situation where uh the federal government issued 1560 02:16:31,920 --> 02:16:38,000 passports and they asked the city and other cities, hey would you be willing 1561 02:16:36,240 --> 02:16:41,920 to administer and issue passports on our behalf and we'll give you money. And so 1562 02:16:40,399 --> 02:16:46,160 the federal government would give us money and people can come to the city 1563 02:16:44,160 --> 02:16:48,960 city hall and apply for a passport or renew a passport or whatever and we 1564 02:16:47,679 --> 02:16:54,160 would do the administrative work and provide a passport on behalf of the 1565 02:16:51,200 --> 02:16:58,080 federal government. Um over time they started paying us less and less money. 1566 02:16:56,639 --> 02:17:04,240 So we were actually we ended up subsidizing that process where it cost 1567 02:17:01,120 --> 02:17:08,240 us more to actually do the work for the federal government than they were 1568 02:17:05,920 --> 02:17:11,760 actually reimbursing us. So our staff was so we had to subsidize that using 1569 02:17:10,160 --> 02:17:15,439 our general fund. So at that time we evaluated that and we said okay this is 1570 02:17:13,359 --> 02:17:18,800 really not working out. And so it's the federal government's role to do this. 1571 02:17:17,200 --> 02:17:21,599 You guys do this. We're not going to do this on your behalf anymore because 1572 02:17:20,000 --> 02:17:28,559 you're not paying us enough to do this. Right. So, um we don't have money now. 1573 02:17:26,639 --> 02:17:32,960 We are looking for at a budget shortfall. We're talking about a 1574 02:17:30,800 --> 02:17:38,319 potential uh tax increase by implementing a BNO tax now. Okay. Uh 1575 02:17:35,519 --> 02:17:44,960 providing potential additional burden on our local business owners. Um and so, uh 1576 02:17:41,760 --> 02:17:51,920 this is this is unsustainable funding. So, um, the state and us temporary 1577 02:17:49,519 --> 02:17:57,519 one-time relief money to build what looks like now a permanent program 1578 02:17:54,639 --> 02:18:02,319 without a plan to pay for these, you know, uh, once the temporary funds ran 1579 02:17:59,679 --> 02:18:07,920 out, right? And this is a common mistake that a lot of um, uh, governments do. 1580 02:18:05,519 --> 02:18:12,559 So, uh, this we know that the state has a lack of budget discipline. Spending is 1581 02:18:10,080 --> 02:18:17,439 out of control. uh revenue is at an all-time increase but spending is even 1582 02:18:14,559 --> 02:18:23,040 outpacing that. Um so in this particular case the state is actually offloading 1583 02:18:20,160 --> 02:18:29,439 the state's own financial burden on our city and our residents. 1584 02:18:25,599 --> 02:18:35,920 Okay. And so uh the question is very simple. The question is are we going are 1585 02:18:32,399 --> 02:18:40,240 we willing to subsidize the state? And I think the answer is no here. Okay. 1586 02:18:38,240 --> 02:18:43,599 So just like the passport, issuing passports and administering passports is 1587 02:18:41,920 --> 02:18:47,519 the federal government's job and they should be doing that. And if they want 1588 02:18:45,280 --> 02:18:50,800 us to do it, that's fine as a value ad as long as we're fairly compensated. In 1589 02:18:49,599 --> 02:18:56,479 this particular case, this is the state's job. And if they want us to do 1590 02:18:53,439 --> 02:19:01,679 this, I would I will happily do this as long as we are fairly compensated. Okay. 1591 02:18:58,960 --> 02:19:06,080 So uh that that's my position on this. I would be okay with exploring option 1592 02:19:04,080 --> 02:19:08,800 number two, which is we go back to the state and we say, "Hey, look, this is 1593 02:19:07,599 --> 02:19:12,559 what it's going to cost with all this added stuff. You need to pay for this." 1594 02:19:11,280 --> 02:19:16,719 But if the answer at the end of the day is no, then our answer should be, "Well, 1595 02:19:14,319 --> 02:19:22,960 then we can't afford to do this. We just can't afford it." So, thank you. 1596 02:19:20,639 --> 02:19:28,240 » All right, >> thank you, Mr. Mayor. [clears throat] 1597 02:19:25,280 --> 02:19:32,160 Aaron and um I did send in a set of questions 1598 02:19:30,000 --> 02:19:39,040 earlier today and I there probably wasn't enough time to uh get a response, 1599 02:19:35,120 --> 02:19:44,880 but I do want to ask a few questions. Um looking at the materials here, of the 1600 02:19:41,200 --> 02:19:49,600 114 households we served um for state fiscal year 2026, how many 1601 02:19:47,519 --> 02:19:52,600 are in permanent housing today? Do we know? 1602 02:19:54,720 --> 02:20:03,520 We do um all of them were successfully housed as of May 31st this year. Uh so 1603 02:20:01,840 --> 02:20:07,280 uh about a month before the end of the fiscal year, we were able to ensure 1604 02:20:05,520 --> 02:20:11,600 everybody had a signed lease and a stable apartment, whether they were 1605 02:20:09,200 --> 02:20:15,359 sharing with friends or a family. Um either way, every one of those 1606 02:20:12,960 --> 02:20:20,479 households uh was in stable housing uh by the end of the fiscal year. 1607 02:20:17,600 --> 02:20:25,520 » Thank you. And um for the record, can we define what a household is? Is that a 1608 02:20:23,040 --> 02:20:32,200 family of three, four, one individual? H how do we um clarify that or classify 1609 02:20:29,200 --> 02:20:32,200 that 1610 02:20:44,640 --> 02:20:53,600 mindful of technical issues? Um, I know the team has assembled several 1611 02:20:51,920 --> 02:20:57,600 answers for you, council member, I want to provide an opportunity for that. Uh, 1612 02:20:55,600 --> 02:21:00,399 while they are, uh, sharing the information that they were able to 1613 02:20:58,800 --> 02:21:05,680 gather. If I could also invite our deputy city manager, Tiffany Washington, 1614 02:21:02,560 --> 02:21:09,760 to the podium, [snorts] uh, she and I have had conversations on this topic and 1615 02:21:07,680 --> 02:21:14,640 want to make sure that, uh, we're uh, presenting the most factual uh, record 1616 02:21:12,960 --> 02:21:18,640 for you, your consideration and deliberations tonight. 1617 02:21:15,680 --> 02:21:18,640 » Thank you. 1618 02:21:21,439 --> 02:21:31,200 Good evening, mayor and city council. Um, I think it'd be safer to answer your 1619 02:21:28,720 --> 02:21:35,920 questions because we're convoluting two systems. There's a homelessness system 1620 02:21:34,000 --> 02:21:39,040 » where households are defined very specifically. Yes. 1621 02:21:36,960 --> 02:21:43,680 » And then there's this the migrant program and I'm not sure that those 1622 02:21:41,040 --> 02:21:48,479 definitions align as well as the definition of permanent housing. 1623 02:21:46,479 --> 02:21:53,120 because permanent housing can't be counted as permanent housing unless 1624 02:21:51,120 --> 02:21:54,960 someone is still housed after six months. 1625 02:21:54,240 --> 02:22:00,479 » Okay? >> Because if they're not, that that in 1626 02:21:57,680 --> 02:22:05,040 that is equates to a return to homelessness. So, you can't determine if 1627 02:22:02,720 --> 02:22:09,120 the program is successful unless the person is permanently housed. 1628 02:22:07,760 --> 02:22:13,439 I do [clears throat] want to go back to Councilman Rucoin, one thing that you 1629 02:22:10,880 --> 02:22:18,560 asked. As of now, no one is enrolled in this program. We successfully as 1630 02:22:16,399 --> 02:22:22,880 determined by Miriam >> exited everyone out. 1631 02:22:20,960 --> 02:22:28,720 » So the question that you all have to ask yourselves is do you want to fill the 1632 02:22:25,600 --> 02:22:33,439 program back up with less funding which then could lead to you holding the bag 1633 02:22:31,359 --> 02:22:38,880 because of the heart and the values that CATAC council members hold. Once we 1634 02:22:36,080 --> 02:22:44,720 enroll new people we will consider them our responsibility until they're stable. 1635 02:22:42,800 --> 02:22:48,880 We're not holding the bag right now because we successfully have housed 1636 02:22:46,800 --> 02:22:54,160 everyone. So to me that is the crux of the decision which is once you say yes 1637 02:22:51,600 --> 02:22:59,439 and you sign on the dotted line you are saying yes to bringing in new clients 1638 02:22:56,800 --> 02:23:07,600 that we will be responsible for until they are uh permanently housed as 1639 02:23:02,479 --> 02:23:12,000 defined in the grant. And so, um, to me it warrants, if I may, I don't know how 1640 02:23:09,760 --> 02:23:15,280 this works in CEK, but I think it warrants going back to the state and 1641 02:23:13,520 --> 02:23:20,640 saying this is your priority that we support, 1642 02:23:18,319 --> 02:23:25,760 you should fund it fully, and if not, you could either reduce the the reduce 1643 02:23:23,520 --> 02:23:30,880 what you're asking us to do >> to align with the funding you're giving 1644 02:23:27,600 --> 02:23:34,560 us because right now they're giving us outcomes are here 1645 02:23:32,160 --> 02:23:39,520 » and the funding is here and they either need to increase the funding to meet the 1646 02:23:36,399 --> 02:23:44,240 outcomes or decrease the outcomes to where it's achievable. You cannot do 1647 02:23:41,920 --> 02:23:48,080 what's in this current contract with a staff person working 31 hours a week 1648 02:23:46,319 --> 02:23:52,080 when you've added permanent housing. So that's the other distinction. Permanent 1649 02:23:50,000 --> 02:23:55,439 housing was not on CATAC in the previous contract. Correct. They've added it. 1650 02:23:53,920 --> 02:23:58,319 » And as someone who's worked in permanent housing, that is the hardest outcome to 1651 02:23:57,439 --> 02:24:02,240 achieve, >> the hardest. 1652 02:23:59,520 --> 02:24:05,200 » And so I'll pause there and see. So, I I want them to answer your questions, but 1653 02:24:03,439 --> 02:24:09,280 I want them to be technically correct in terms of the definition of a household, 1654 02:24:07,200 --> 02:24:13,359 the definition of permanent housing, and then based on those definitions, how 1655 02:24:11,359 --> 02:24:17,840 many people have been permanently housed? 1656 02:24:14,479 --> 02:24:22,319 » Uh, thank you, uh, Deputy City Manager Washington for making those 1657 02:24:19,600 --> 02:24:27,920 distinctions. Uh, for me personally, I I think if we do have an opportunity to 1658 02:24:25,120 --> 02:24:34,319 house individuals in our community, um, we should we should do so. But I want to 1659 02:24:31,439 --> 02:24:39,840 also recognize that we may not have the funding. So a question I have is if we 1660 02:24:36,800 --> 02:24:46,880 were to accept what is it the $500,000 here, what exposure do we have in terms 1661 02:24:43,840 --> 02:24:51,120 of we would be on the hook to continue to provide services? How much is that? 1662 02:24:49,200 --> 02:24:54,640 How do we quantify that? >> We can find that out. I think the first 1663 02:24:52,720 --> 02:24:58,319 question is how many people are residents of SeaTac? because I agree 1664 02:24:57,120 --> 02:25:01,840 with your assumption that we are responsible to house the people in 1665 02:24:59,680 --> 02:25:05,760 SeaTac. The referrals that the state sends can come from anywhere. 1666 02:25:04,960 --> 02:25:09,920 » Okay. >> So that's I think the first question is 1667 02:25:08,160 --> 02:25:14,875 how do we guarantee that the referrals that you send us are people impacted in 1668 02:25:12,960 --> 02:25:17,280 » SeaTac? [clears throat] 1669 02:25:15,520 --> 02:25:20,720 » And then you can answer the question, how much would it cost to serve the 1670 02:25:18,800 --> 02:25:25,359 SeaTac person? I think it's hard because they're immigrants. So they came here 1671 02:25:22,640 --> 02:25:29,680 and you know they they were >> divided amongst cities that had willing 1672 02:25:27,359 --> 02:25:33,200 mayors and city councils to take them in. And so I don't think they're 1673 02:25:30,960 --> 02:25:36,240 technically a resident. >> The question could be where are they at 1674 02:25:34,880 --> 02:25:39,920 now? [clears throat] >> What shelter are they at or where are 1675 02:25:37,920 --> 02:25:45,200 they physically located? And then if there are any of them physically located 1676 02:25:42,000 --> 02:25:47,439 in SeaTac or a neighboring city, I think giving you that information would be 1677 02:25:46,720 --> 02:25:51,120 helpful. >> It absolutely would. And right now I'm 1678 02:25:49,439 --> 02:25:57,040 just looking at my colleagues. I'm leaning towards I believe option two um 1679 02:25:54,479 --> 02:26:03,200 directing our city manager to go back to the state and try to negotiate some 1680 02:25:59,600 --> 02:26:06,880 better terms because I I I want to house our our residents and also just the 1681 02:26:05,200 --> 02:26:11,439 community at large who needs this resource and if we have the ability to 1682 02:26:08,960 --> 02:26:15,920 do so we should seriously consider it >> and it doesn't preclude you from later 1683 02:26:13,200 --> 02:26:19,280 funding it either. So it just says you you just are initiating. 1684 02:26:17,600 --> 02:26:24,319 » Yes. Thank you. 1685 02:26:21,520 --> 02:26:30,800 » Thank you. Um I 1686 02:26:27,120 --> 02:26:37,200 I there's some background um that we have not mentioned here. 1687 02:26:34,319 --> 02:26:45,520 So when we experienced large number of immigrants 20 25 1688 02:26:41,920 --> 02:26:52,399 most of them were in Seattle and >> they were roaming around our streets. 1689 02:26:49,120 --> 02:26:58,080 Um the king county did some work Seattle actually did some work and this council 1690 02:26:55,920 --> 02:27:03,760 made commitment actually to treat these people humanely as a human being who 1691 02:27:01,680 --> 02:27:09,520 come in our community. We didn't bring them. We didn't invite them. But we as a 1692 02:27:07,280 --> 02:27:15,439 council decided to treat them as a human being, you know, helping them to settle 1693 02:27:13,120 --> 02:27:18,000 where they want to settle. We were the only city. 1694 02:27:17,439 --> 02:27:22,640 » Mhm. >> That went to the state 1695 02:27:19,920 --> 02:27:27,040 » and asking money because it was very difficult. There was different profile 1696 02:27:24,560 --> 02:27:33,280 that is no one knows what what they are doing because it's new things actually, 1697 02:27:29,359 --> 02:27:38,319 right? we get $750,000. Uh actually we use it wisely and 1698 02:27:36,720 --> 02:27:44,319 responsibly. That's why we 1699 02:27:40,800 --> 02:27:49,840 those who have used this program are now in their 1700 02:27:47,120 --> 02:27:54,640 homes. Most of them have 1701 02:27:52,160 --> 02:28:00,479 all of them had had their immigration court and their uh immigration. 1702 02:27:58,640 --> 02:28:04,720 They get their social security. They get their IDs. Some of them buy 1703 02:28:03,212 --> 02:28:10,720 [clears throat] unless this council will do will not do that. If the council will 1704 02:28:08,319 --> 02:28:16,319 not do that, these people would not be where they are. 1705 02:28:13,520 --> 02:28:22,160 So I want to give that actually out there so people understand what we were 1706 02:28:18,880 --> 02:28:25,520 through. Um this program will not be a permanent 1707 02:28:24,000 --> 02:28:29,120 program. I cannot believe actually I couldn't 1708 02:28:27,520 --> 02:28:34,000 believe when I find out the state is giving 500 or so because the state 1709 02:28:31,680 --> 02:28:40,319 budget situation is very but the kindness and commitment from the state 1710 02:28:37,120 --> 02:28:45,280 they decided to give this small amounts so they can finish the job I mean what 1711 02:28:43,120 --> 02:28:50,720 we have started and we were very successful 1712 02:28:47,760 --> 02:28:55,200 if we accepted this we are not let's say the way they put it 1713 02:28:52,800 --> 02:29:00,960 on the hook new program like the basketball board that will stay in in C 1714 02:28:57,600 --> 02:29:10,240 city for the next 20 years actually I'm sure 2027 2028 it they will not 1715 02:29:06,560 --> 02:29:16,640 state will not ban but at the same time to look you know there will not be a 1716 02:29:13,280 --> 02:29:22,160 need at that time now most of those people have jobs they are in their homes 1717 02:29:18,720 --> 02:29:26,240 there's few are staying with friends coach surfing what we 1718 02:29:24,080 --> 02:29:31,520 And this program is suited for those people. Uh how we will identify I like 1719 02:29:29,600 --> 02:29:35,920 them to identify that they at least staying with relatives or friends in the 1720 02:29:33,680 --> 02:29:39,520 city of Citad and they are in the process of getting jobs and getting 1721 02:29:38,000 --> 02:29:46,319 their legal papers or all of those things. So actually this is this is 1722 02:29:43,280 --> 02:29:50,319 actually I mean should I say God sent us because these people actually came to 1723 02:29:47,840 --> 02:29:56,800 the city hall. I was in the city hall when few of similar situation came and I 1724 02:29:54,319 --> 02:30:06,720 said I told them go talk to Aaron Brian famous you know and there's no budget or 1725 02:30:00,080 --> 02:30:12,319 funding for there I yeah so I want to I want to uh actually uh mention 1726 02:30:09,280 --> 02:30:18,560 something that council member McConn was in human service very long time 25 1727 02:30:15,439 --> 02:30:21,680 the state cities the private charity They give human money to do good things. 1728 02:30:20,399 --> 02:30:27,439 What they believe it, right? Good programs, whatever. But they always cut 1729 02:30:24,240 --> 02:30:31,359 the the the workers, the people who do look, they want to do this, but they 1730 02:30:29,680 --> 02:30:37,280 want to say, look, we want that person to work 10 hours. I mean, how come you 1731 02:30:34,800 --> 02:30:42,960 can work 10 hours and do all one, you know? So, 1732 02:30:39,840 --> 02:30:48,399 um, it's that's what they always does. And I am position number one. And the 1733 02:30:46,720 --> 02:30:52,640 reason is that this is not continuing program. 1734 02:30:49,920 --> 02:30:57,760 We are we need to finish the job that we as a council and city committee 2025 1735 02:30:55,920 --> 02:31:03,520 2025. uh there's a small number of 1736 02:31:00,560 --> 02:31:08,800 potential applicants actually in this in this city that will need that support 1737 02:31:06,000 --> 02:31:13,520 and the commitment that will come from our side is what position 32 it's making 1738 02:31:11,680 --> 02:31:19,120 like fulltime position right what that means it's less than even 50,000 so if I 1739 02:31:16,880 --> 02:31:23,840 getting 500,000 and spend 1740 02:31:21,359 --> 02:31:28,640 or augmented 50,000 >> Mhm. 500,000 1741 02:31:26,000 --> 02:31:33,600 I will take any minute basically I will really as as long as I believe the 1742 02:31:30,800 --> 02:31:40,160 program or so I will be in position one I don't have problem with position two 1743 02:31:36,479 --> 02:31:45,840 um you know my problem with with with position option number two is that when 1744 02:31:42,720 --> 02:31:51,600 we go there if they say that look we set the priorities I mean uh goal is and the 1745 02:31:49,120 --> 02:31:56,479 requirement is you either meet it or not meet it if you are not doing this then 1746 02:31:53,680 --> 02:32:02,640 we will take out money we lose 500,000 for what 50,000 or 40,000 or even 10,000 1747 02:32:00,000 --> 02:32:08,240 I don't think you know anyway I will support uh number one and if the council 1748 02:32:05,439 --> 02:32:12,560 majority who are in here want to actually uh go number three and decline 1749 02:32:10,560 --> 02:32:19,600 it it's up to them but I will be my priority number one my option number one 1750 02:32:15,840 --> 02:32:25,920 is my 100 support if the majority of the council present here want to go too I 1751 02:32:22,240 --> 02:32:30,880 don't mind that Mr. Sir uh Finchen. >> Uh thank you, Mr. Mayor. And I I do 1752 02:32:27,840 --> 02:32:34,720 agree with uh most of what you said. Um but I also just wanted to clarify the 1753 02:32:32,880 --> 02:32:38,880 email that I sent to staff. I would like to receive a response to all of the 1754 02:32:36,560 --> 02:32:44,240 questions that I posed. Um and just to clarify again, we currently do not have 1755 02:32:40,960 --> 02:32:51,760 any members in this program. Um not to say that the need does not exist. Um, 1756 02:32:47,359 --> 02:32:57,520 and again, if we were to go with option one or go with option two, um, once we 1757 02:32:55,040 --> 02:33:03,120 expend the funds, the city of SeaTac is still obligated to, uh, provide these 1758 02:33:00,800 --> 02:33:09,760 services. Uh, is it through the end of 2027 or is it through I think it was 1759 02:33:05,359 --> 02:33:13,760 June 30th of 2027? Do we know, >> Erin? I think it's through June of 2027. 1760 02:33:12,720 --> 02:33:18,319 Yeah, >> June 30th, 2027. 1761 02:33:15,920 --> 02:33:21,200 » Yes. So, if we can get that estimate, I I think the mayor may be in the 1762 02:33:20,319 --> 02:33:28,160 ballpark, >> 50,000 60,000. I just would like to know 1763 02:33:24,640 --> 02:33:32,399 um what um we could expect coming out of our general fund as we are getting ready 1764 02:33:29,920 --> 02:33:35,280 for our bianial budgeting. So, thank you, 1765 02:33:33,120 --> 02:33:40,319 » Mr. Mayor. It's the addition, might I? It's the addition of permanent housing. 1766 02:33:38,080 --> 02:33:44,720 So, the last time we didn't have to permanently house them, they added that. 1767 02:33:42,640 --> 02:33:51,040 So if we go back, it's asking them to allow us to do the same good work that 1768 02:33:47,680 --> 02:33:56,080 we did previously. And but adding a permanent housing, that's a really big 1769 02:33:53,680 --> 02:34:01,200 that's a hard job. And there's agencies that are specifically designed and built 1770 02:33:59,359 --> 02:34:06,399 to do that. We didn't find them permanent housing. Miriam connected them 1771 02:34:03,840 --> 02:34:12,319 to people who did permanent housing. So just want to make sure that that part is 1772 02:34:08,720 --> 02:34:15,680 clear. And that definition we can ask that that the state what do you mean 1773 02:34:13,920 --> 02:34:19,840 permanent house do you want it five years or 10 years on home ownership or 1774 02:34:17,600 --> 02:34:23,120 or you want it six months >> six months we can do within the actual 1775 02:34:21,760 --> 02:34:26,240 to match contract >> yes 1776 02:34:23,520 --> 02:34:30,880 » but if it's outside that then we cannot do we cannot do that and we cannot be 1777 02:34:28,319 --> 02:34:37,560 responsible of that to be okay I want to recognize council member um uh uh Juan 1778 02:34:39,520 --> 02:34:49,920 Thank you. Uh so I want to clarify about the um potential $500,000 grant funding. 1779 02:34:46,000 --> 02:34:56,000 So uh there's at least a dozen organizations right now who are uh 1780 02:34:52,960 --> 02:35:01,840 direct folk partners with the state of Washington's WAS program. 1781 02:34:59,520 --> 02:35:07,040 And these are organizations that are already equipped with you know 1782 02:35:04,160 --> 02:35:12,000 interpreters and uh you know uh uh lawyers and you know housing providers 1783 02:35:10,080 --> 02:35:15,520 and all of that stuff. They they are because that that's what they do. These 1784 02:35:13,760 --> 02:35:20,800 community based organizations that's their business. their business is um in 1785 02:35:18,240 --> 02:35:24,280 fact I wrote this down somewhere because uh um 1786 02:35:27,520 --> 02:35:36,640 uh provides um opportunities for refugees, asylum seekers, um uh 1787 02:35:34,880 --> 02:35:40,000 trafficking victims and and all of that. So that's what they do. Okay, that 1788 02:35:38,880 --> 02:35:45,439 that's their bread and butter. That's their primary business model. they are 1789 02:35:42,560 --> 02:35:54,000 already direct partners with the state receiving funding. So this funding in my 1790 02:35:49,680 --> 02:35:56,880 mind would be better served providing additional funding to the organizations 1791 02:35:55,359 --> 02:36:02,240 who are already providing excellent services and have a long history of 1792 02:35:59,120 --> 02:36:08,720 doing this to expand their existing services or potentially you know uh um 1793 02:36:05,600 --> 02:36:12,000 uh expand the services according to the requirement the additional requirement 1794 02:36:10,160 --> 02:36:17,920 that the state is trying to have us provide in my mind. So, uh, I just want 1795 02:36:15,120 --> 02:36:22,720 to say that, um, and again, I think, uh, this is, uh, something that is is a 1796 02:36:20,960 --> 02:36:27,040 complex issue, but at the end of the day, the question is whether or not 1797 02:36:24,399 --> 02:36:33,359 we're going to be subsidizing state or not using our local taxpayers money and 1798 02:36:30,160 --> 02:36:38,000 and in in turn assuming the responsibility of the 1799 02:36:35,200 --> 02:36:43,640 state. Okay. So, just want to leave you with that. Thanks, 1800 02:36:40,080 --> 02:36:43,640 » Council Member Okono. 1801 02:36:44,479 --> 02:36:52,960 » Thank you. And um thank you Deputy City Manager Washington for clarifying that 1802 02:36:51,439 --> 02:36:58,640 there are currently not people in the program. Um, also just to mention that 1803 02:36:55,840 --> 02:37:03,120 like it I think that was an important point to make because I I I know we're 1804 02:37:00,960 --> 02:37:08,479 really focused about the funding and just remembering that for every dollar 1805 02:37:05,920 --> 02:37:13,280 it is connected to a human being. Um, so I do appreciate that that we are 1806 02:37:10,399 --> 02:37:17,920 currently not having an active program with active people we are discussing but 1807 02:37:15,680 --> 02:37:21,439 the potential to impact other people. Um, and thank you again for clarifying 1808 02:37:20,240 --> 02:37:24,960 permanent housing. I am really interested as we're negotiating with the 1809 02:37:23,280 --> 02:37:30,000 state what that means and what that looks like because that's an excellent 1810 02:37:26,479 --> 02:37:35,600 point that there are people who spend decades and are experts at navigating 1811 02:37:33,120 --> 02:37:41,600 that and if they're asking us to take on that I I believe in the capabilities of 1812 02:37:38,240 --> 02:37:46,880 our program yet I recognize how big of an ask that is. So I would very much so 1813 02:37:44,000 --> 02:37:53,520 appreciate that specific clarification and um hearing that there's interest in 1814 02:37:50,000 --> 02:38:00,399 option one while we are engaging the state regarding the additional funding 1815 02:37:56,080 --> 02:38:07,359 could I we um get kind of some information on if funding was allocated 1816 02:38:04,720 --> 02:38:11,680 from the general fund what that looks like for the budget like 1817 02:38:09,600 --> 02:38:15,680 what what if anything might have to be dep prioritized. ized or just like the 1818 02:38:13,920 --> 02:38:19,439 impacts of that. Um whether that would make us go over budget or if we'd still 1819 02:38:17,439 --> 02:38:24,880 stay under budget. Um I just want to know if we do agree to something um you 1820 02:38:22,880 --> 02:38:28,319 know the the repercussions that that could potentially have. Um but that is 1821 02:38:26,640 --> 02:38:33,520 that is all I wanted to add. Thank you. >> Council member, just to clarify, telling 1822 02:38:30,000 --> 02:38:38,479 us to write a decision card does not um bind us to it. There's another step in 1823 02:38:36,880 --> 02:38:44,479 the process where decision cards are reviewed and decided upon and there's 1824 02:38:42,000 --> 02:38:48,479 another time when when the city manager presents his proposed budget to you all 1825 02:38:46,800 --> 02:38:54,080 where you have another opportunity and so directing one and two doesn't mean 1826 02:38:52,479 --> 02:38:56,080 that you've signed on the dotted line and we have to fund the position next 1827 02:38:55,520 --> 02:38:59,920 year. >> Amazing. Thank you for the 1828 02:38:57,120 --> 02:39:05,760 clarification. I want to I want to say that 1829 02:39:03,280 --> 02:39:13,600 we are not subsidizing the state of Washington or Colorado or me. We are 1830 02:39:09,680 --> 02:39:20,640 not. This is one time funding that support is what we have done 2025 1831 02:39:17,280 --> 02:39:26,960 as a concept which we have made made commitment 1832 02:39:22,319 --> 02:39:33,280 to house those who are in our community that we didn't bring them we didn't 1833 02:39:28,720 --> 02:39:39,120 invite them uh who are in our community and treat treat them 1834 02:39:36,160 --> 02:39:46,560 humanely uh So I want to make sure that we 1835 02:39:43,200 --> 02:39:52,399 we we have to set the record straight. This is not continuing program. It will 1836 02:39:48,640 --> 02:39:57,040 not happen 2028, 2029 or 2031. This is one time to finish what we have 1837 02:39:54,560 --> 02:40:01,600 started 2025. Uh council member uh 1838 02:40:00,080 --> 02:40:05,359 » uh excellent points. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, I am not advocating for 1839 02:40:03,840 --> 02:40:10,960 option three, but I would like to know more about it. Um, and its potential 1840 02:40:07,760 --> 02:40:15,680 impacts if we were to decline uh this grant. What What are the impacts 1841 02:40:12,960 --> 02:40:20,160 to the city of SeaTac? >> I would say I think we're talking about 1842 02:40:17,600 --> 02:40:24,319 two different commitments. I hear from the the mayor a commitment to the 1843 02:40:22,319 --> 02:40:26,960 immigrant community that came over at that time. 1844 02:40:25,680 --> 02:40:32,800 » Um, >> are they all housed? No. 1845 02:40:30,319 --> 02:40:37,760 the impact to SeaTac in terms of the immigrant community members that we took 1846 02:40:35,280 --> 02:40:44,160 on and you all took on. Thank you. When asked, [clears throat] 1847 02:40:39,840 --> 02:40:48,640 » those people th those people are housed. The question really is, do we want to 1848 02:40:46,319 --> 02:40:53,760 continue doing that work with the remaining group of people that are 1849 02:40:50,960 --> 02:41:00,399 unhoused? So, the impact to CATAC if we declined the agreement would be we would 1850 02:40:56,319 --> 02:41:04,720 lose the $500,000 grant. we would not um enroll new people into the program. 1851 02:41:03,120 --> 02:41:08,880 » Would we have any staffing impacts with our TLT positions? 1852 02:41:06,240 --> 02:41:13,359 » Well, a TLT position by nature it's ter it's temporary. So, it would it would 1853 02:41:11,040 --> 02:41:19,439 mean that the staff person who's a temporary employee right now there that 1854 02:41:16,000 --> 02:41:25,600 Miriam her position would end at the like I think immediately Gwen would it 1855 02:41:22,000 --> 02:41:28,240 be July 31st of this year? July 31st of this year 1856 02:41:26,640 --> 02:41:31,920 » and that's if we were to go with option three and and the reason I pose this 1857 02:41:30,080 --> 02:41:36,560 question because I I appreciate the dialogue from my colleagues here but 1858 02:41:34,319 --> 02:41:42,479 hearing that we have um service providers who um this is really their 1859 02:41:39,760 --> 02:41:47,600 expertise if the city of SeaTac were to forfeit this money would the state 1860 02:41:44,800 --> 02:41:50,000 redistribute this to them how do we know or 1861 02:41:48,240 --> 02:41:55,200 » the reason why you don't have those great people who are expert because they 1862 02:41:52,479 --> 02:41:59,600 don't want it so people aren't it's permanent housing is the hardest outcome 1863 02:41:57,680 --> 02:42:04,319 to achieve and it's a pay for performance outcome meaning if you have 1864 02:42:02,000 --> 02:42:07,600 50 people you have to get those 50 people housed and every time you get 1865 02:42:05,760 --> 02:42:10,080 them housed you can invoice for it. >> Yes. 1866 02:42:08,000 --> 02:42:14,560 » And then depending on their definition at the six month mark if they return 1867 02:42:12,640 --> 02:42:19,200 back to homelessness you lose a percentage of your funding. So people 1868 02:42:16,479 --> 02:42:22,640 aren't like lining up at the door to enroll new people in permanent housing. 1869 02:42:21,120 --> 02:42:27,600 If they were they would have given it to them. So there's a reason why they added 1870 02:42:25,520 --> 02:42:30,880 it. I'd love to have that conversation with the state and say why did you add 1871 02:42:29,280 --> 02:42:33,120 that? We were doing great. >> Yes. 1872 02:42:31,359 --> 02:42:37,120 » With our piece. >> And so at minimum say why don't you give 1873 02:42:35,520 --> 02:42:40,800 the permanent housing piece to the permanent housing providers. We just 1874 02:42:38,960 --> 02:42:46,319 haven't had that conversation. >> I think we need to because we aren't we 1875 02:42:43,359 --> 02:42:50,720 we are not experts in housing people and there are many organizations that are 1876 02:42:48,080 --> 02:42:54,319 and do it well. and Erin, who does that now for us? Who permanently houses the 1877 02:42:52,560 --> 02:42:59,439 people in the program? >> Yeah, we have we have a few and a couple 1878 02:42:56,720 --> 02:43:03,439 of them have been offlined. Um and and Miriam can speak to that. Um but 1879 02:43:01,600 --> 02:43:05,840 Congress Integration Network is a per is an organization that does permanent 1880 02:43:04,960 --> 02:43:11,680 health. Y >> um Lutheran Community Services, um World 1881 02:43:08,800 --> 02:43:15,680 Relief, um there's another newer organization called Track Associates. 1882 02:43:14,080 --> 02:43:21,080 Um, Miriam, would you be able to speak to the other folks that have been 1883 02:43:16,880 --> 02:43:21,080 providing the permanent housing? 1884 02:43:23,359 --> 02:43:28,080 » I think that's good enough, Erin. I think the point you're trying to get to 1885 02:43:26,160 --> 02:43:32,160 is that there are skilled providers who do this work. so interested in if we do 1886 02:43:31,040 --> 02:43:37,439 do it, [clears throat] >> let us continue to do what we do well 1887 02:43:34,720 --> 02:43:41,359 » and can we give the the permanent housing providers funding to do what 1888 02:43:39,359 --> 02:43:44,080 they do well and partner together to have the greater outcomes that we see 1889 02:43:43,359 --> 02:43:48,479 right now. >> Okay. And and last question. So if we 1890 02:43:46,479 --> 02:43:54,000 were to choose option one or option two, this question is for staff. How 1891 02:43:50,640 --> 02:43:59,479 confident are we that we can meet these deliverables that have been placed on us 1892 02:43:55,760 --> 02:43:59,479 by the state of Washington? 1893 02:44:00,000 --> 02:44:06,960 I asked that question already to the staff. So if I may, I'd said if we do if 1894 02:44:05,439 --> 02:44:09,680 we take the money we have and we don't supplement it, 1895 02:44:08,240 --> 02:44:13,840 » can you meet the outcomes? And the answer was no. 1896 02:44:11,040 --> 02:44:18,319 » Okay, I have no further questions. >> So actually we spend quite some time 1897 02:44:16,319 --> 02:44:22,399 this topic and it's very good discussion actually. It's really knowing the 1898 02:44:20,880 --> 02:44:27,920 information having the information knowing what what's your value is and 1899 02:44:25,680 --> 02:44:35,359 and I want to move on on this after Mr. Guan and the staff asked us to give us 1900 02:44:32,080 --> 02:44:39,760 to to give them direction. So I will take each one of them which you need is 1901 02:44:38,000 --> 02:44:45,200 option number one option number two option number three and one of those 1902 02:44:42,160 --> 02:44:49,680 options have to carry actually the majority of sitting council members here 1903 02:44:47,680 --> 02:44:55,600 tonight. Okay, Mr. K. >> Okay, I have a couple questions. So, uh, 1904 02:44:51,760 --> 02:45:01,760 first, um, I want to clarify. I remember when the council approved the initial 1905 02:44:58,640 --> 02:45:06,399 grant funding to, uh, basically start this process and this program was in 1906 02:45:04,160 --> 02:45:14,080 late 2024. 2024 was when we approved this late 1907 02:45:08,479 --> 02:45:19,520 2024. Um the crisis unfolded because of a church in the city of Tquula and that 1908 02:45:17,200 --> 02:45:23,840 overflow to neighboring cities. I I followed this entire thing from the 1909 02:45:21,040 --> 02:45:30,960 beginning and so um here we are today. But question I have is the funding um 1910 02:45:28,240 --> 02:45:35,120 the initial funding that we received that we have been administering and and 1911 02:45:33,200 --> 02:45:40,240 whatnot providing programs and permanent housing and you know job training all 1912 02:45:36,960 --> 02:45:46,399 that stuff legal services. Uh so that was supposed to cover initially the 1913 02:45:43,760 --> 02:45:51,840 initial intake group. >> Is that funding sufficient to complete 1914 02:45:49,520 --> 02:45:56,640 the whole whatever outtake whatever it's called for that group? Yes. 1915 02:45:53,600 --> 02:46:02,080 » Okay. So, this new funding, the 500,000. The first funding was 750,000 if I 1916 02:45:59,200 --> 02:46:07,279 remember. Now, this is 500,000. This would not be to cover the existing folks 1917 02:46:04,720 --> 02:46:10,960 that we are already serving. It would be for new intake. 1918 02:46:09,200 --> 02:46:15,359 » So, we're not serving any existing people right now. It would be for new 1919 02:46:12,960 --> 02:46:18,160 intake, noting that they did reduce the number of people that we would have to 1920 02:46:17,279 --> 02:46:22,479 take in. Yes. >> Right. And it would also expand to 1921 02:46:20,640 --> 02:46:28,399 permanent services and all of that stuff. Okay. So, at the end of the day, 1922 02:46:24,960 --> 02:46:30,640 » we're um there's more work required >> for less money, 1923 02:46:29,200 --> 02:46:35,040 » more complex work. >> So, we're going to have to pay to make 1924 02:46:32,319 --> 02:46:38,479 up the difference from our own budget >> if you choose option one. Correct. 1925 02:46:36,640 --> 02:46:41,439 » If we choose option one. Okay. So, that's the definition of subsidizing 1926 02:46:40,319 --> 02:46:46,800 this thing. >> Okay. So, um I have I have it sounds 1927 02:46:45,040 --> 02:46:50,560 like we all have questions more questions about this. I I'm not 100% 1928 02:46:49,120 --> 02:46:53,680 ready to make a decision on this tonight. Is there a timeline when we 1929 02:46:52,720 --> 02:46:57,520 have to make a decision? >> There is actually 1930 02:46:54,640 --> 02:47:02,560 » Mr. We should ask me that question, not stop. 1931 02:46:59,120 --> 02:47:08,880 » So So we discussed this and it's actually a 1932 02:47:05,359 --> 02:47:14,560 a a a motion. We have to make a motion. Uh we made motion and we second it and 1933 02:47:11,279 --> 02:47:20,399 we discussed this and we have to go and we have three choices. Christina can 1934 02:47:16,640 --> 02:47:27,439 correct me. Take this number one, option one, number two, option two and option 1935 02:47:25,040 --> 02:47:32,479 number two or option number three. There's no other we or any other you 1936 02:47:30,240 --> 02:47:37,439 know we have very clear role. So if you finish it I I want to take it um a 1937 02:47:35,920 --> 02:47:42,359 motion uh to accept the the funding. 1938 02:47:42,720 --> 02:47:46,880 I have to make motion, right? One of those, right? 1939 02:47:45,520 --> 02:47:51,439 » So, we already have a motion on the table. I believe the difference between 1940 02:47:48,960 --> 02:47:56,560 the motion on the table and option one or option two, Cindy or Jonathan can 1941 02:47:54,319 --> 02:48:01,200 correct me if I'm wrong, is the portion about the direction. The direction is 1942 02:47:59,040 --> 02:48:08,160 not included in the original motion. >> Okay. Um, so if you want one or two, you 1943 02:48:04,479 --> 02:48:11,760 would need to amend the motion to uh direct the city manager or staff 1944 02:48:09,920 --> 02:48:15,760 depending on which one you want. The third option um I believe would be 1945 02:48:14,240 --> 02:48:20,880 failing the motion. >> Yeah. Okay, good. 1946 02:48:18,240 --> 02:48:27,720 Point of information um for Christina, we could also amend the motion to seek 1947 02:48:23,600 --> 02:48:27,720 additional time. Is that correct? 1948 02:48:28,319 --> 02:48:34,319 Um, I'm gonna I know there was a time constraint on this, so I'm gonna 1949 02:48:31,680 --> 02:48:39,840 » It's tied to the staffing. So, the grant is tied to the staffing. So, we would 1950 02:48:36,160 --> 02:48:44,720 have to act before July 31st or the funding that's tied to the 1951 02:48:43,040 --> 02:48:46,960 staff would run out and she'd essentially be laid off. 1952 02:48:46,319 --> 02:48:50,800 » Thank you. >> Okay. So, 1953 02:48:49,200 --> 02:48:55,120 you want to make who want to make motion to accept number one or number two? Mr. 1954 02:48:53,760 --> 02:49:00,560 Definson. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I'd like to make a 1955 02:48:57,840 --> 02:49:04,560 an amendment to the motion to authorize execution of the agreement and direct 1956 02:49:02,319 --> 02:49:09,120 the city manager to engage the state regarding additional administrative 1957 02:49:06,880 --> 02:49:13,680 funding or further reductions to required outcomes and scope. 1958 02:49:12,240 --> 02:49:19,840 » So, do I have a second? >> So, second just to be clear and Cindy 1959 02:49:16,800 --> 02:49:23,680 again and Jonathan if I'm wrong um you're actually needing to amend the 1960 02:49:22,000 --> 02:49:28,800 original motion. The original motion was to do all of that except for the 1961 02:49:25,920 --> 02:49:32,200 direction. So the amendment would be to add the direction. 1962 02:49:32,319 --> 02:49:41,279 » Well, he's saying option two. He said >> he combined one and two, I think. 1963 02:49:38,560 --> 02:49:45,680 » So So is number two not including all of the contracts and everything else that 1964 02:49:43,439 --> 02:49:48,800 it already had? >> It isn't. 1965 02:49:47,200 --> 02:49:53,439 » Option two doesn't say that. >> I know. Um it but neither the first one 1966 02:49:52,080 --> 02:49:56,080 doesn't mention all the contracts either. 1967 02:49:53,920 --> 02:49:59,920 » Option two is you're saying authorize execution of the agreement. That's 1968 02:49:57,600 --> 02:50:03,200 accepting the contract and directing the city manager to talk to the state. So 1969 02:50:01,520 --> 02:50:06,560 it's both. It I think it is what council member Vincson just said. 1970 02:50:04,399 --> 02:50:10,240 » And number one though, isn't that also accepting the contract but then doing a 1971 02:50:08,800 --> 02:50:14,160 separate direction >> directing the city manager to fill out a 1972 02:50:12,160 --> 02:50:16,960 decision card adding supplemental funding. 1973 02:50:14,880 --> 02:50:22,080 » Okay. So in my for if I'm understanding this correctly option one and two 1974 02:50:19,840 --> 02:50:28,080 both include the original motion which was to accept it. They just have 1975 02:50:24,880 --> 02:50:32,640 different direction. So we already have a motion on the table to accept do all 1976 02:50:30,319 --> 02:50:37,680 the agreements. We now need to make an amendment related to one or two for the 1977 02:50:35,520 --> 02:50:43,279 direction. Which direction are you wanting? So it sounded council member 1978 02:50:39,840 --> 02:50:46,720 Vincent that you wanted um option two. >> That is correct. I want option two. 1979 02:50:45,120 --> 02:50:49,120 » Okay. So, >> do I 1980 02:50:47,279 --> 02:50:54,240 » right now I have moved by Vincent then we'll get a second uh to direct the city 1981 02:50:52,399 --> 02:50:57,760 manager to engage the state regarding additional administrative funding or 1982 02:50:55,760 --> 02:51:03,200 further reductions to required outcomes in scope. 1983 02:50:59,920 --> 02:51:06,800 » So, do I do I have second? >> I'll second. 1984 02:51:04,160 --> 02:51:11,319 » Okay. So, um All right. Okay. So, let's vote for Mr. Fer's motion. 1985 02:51:11,359 --> 02:51:15,680 » Take the vote. >> Yes. Yeah. 1986 02:51:13,520 --> 02:51:16,800 » Oh, your motion. You want to say yes or no? 1987 02:51:16,160 --> 02:51:20,920 » Yes. >> Okay. Council member Khan. 1988 02:51:21,439 --> 02:51:24,399 » Yes. >> Council me Cona. 1989 02:51:23,600 --> 02:51:29,514 » Yes. >> And I would be no. Okay. So, we will 1990 02:51:27,680 --> 02:51:33,359 take number two and I want [clears throat] you to mention it that I 1991 02:51:30,880 --> 02:51:38,000 voted against and other three council members who are presently voted for. 1992 02:51:36,319 --> 02:51:43,439 » Yes. And that was the vote on the amendment. I now need one on the motion 1993 02:51:40,720 --> 02:51:45,520 as amended. Okay. Who want to make a motion? 1994 02:51:44,319 --> 02:51:49,439 » We already have the motion. We just need a vote, please. 1995 02:51:47,040 --> 02:51:54,160 » So, uh, what's second? 1996 02:51:51,200 --> 02:51:57,359 » Revote. >> We have to put 1997 02:51:55,279 --> 02:51:59,920 » Yes. So, now you're voting on the original motion, which was to pass the 1998 02:51:59,279 --> 02:52:02,640 item. >> Okay. 1999 02:52:00,399 --> 02:52:07,840 » With the amendment, uh, which is the direction. 2000 02:52:04,319 --> 02:52:15,439 » Okay. So, uh, all right. So, council members, um would you unmute your mic 2001 02:52:11,439 --> 02:52:21,120 while I'm reading uh motion bill attended bill 69 51, an ordinance 2002 02:52:18,640 --> 02:52:27,680 authorizing the city manager to execute a contract with the state of Washington 2003 02:52:24,240 --> 02:52:33,279 for fiscal year 2027 to Washington immigrant asylum seeker 2004 02:52:30,479 --> 02:52:41,520 supports program funding authorizing the distribution of the fun agreement 2005 02:52:37,840 --> 02:52:49,279 uh congress and international network CIN uh and participation hotelis and 2006 02:52:47,120 --> 02:52:54,960 then I will move out take out the extension the the the extension of the 2007 02:52:52,080 --> 02:52:57,359 human position because that's not on the second option 2008 02:52:56,399 --> 02:52:59,120 » I no >> no that one's 2009 02:52:58,399 --> 02:53:00,720 » it's concluded >> also included 2010 02:53:00,240 --> 02:53:05,920 » okay >> all of those are included in one or two 2011 02:53:03,200 --> 02:53:11,760 » all right and the extension of UNCF is coordinated temporary limited and T term 2012 02:53:09,520 --> 02:53:20,399 L TL TLT position and a amending the 2025 2013 02:53:16,319 --> 02:53:23,920 2026 by annual budget for those who are sorry 2014 02:53:21,200 --> 02:53:27,040 » and the amendment part which is directing the city manager to engage the 2015 02:53:26,000 --> 02:53:31,920 state regarding additional administrative funding or further 2016 02:53:29,359 --> 02:53:36,880 reductions to required outcomes in scope >> as Christina say 2017 02:53:34,960 --> 02:53:38,399 okay good For those who are in favor say I 2018 02:53:37,439 --> 02:53:40,640 » I >> I will be no 2019 02:53:39,680 --> 02:53:43,359 » nay. >> Okay. So that means it fail. That's what 2020 02:53:42,720 --> 02:53:47,840 I was telling. >> Okay. 2021 02:53:43,680 --> 02:53:51,040 » Yes. Yeah. So it failed. >> So now you don't have a So now I think 2022 02:53:49,760 --> 02:53:54,000 that's a pass. >> What is that? 2023 02:53:52,000 --> 02:53:58,160 » Nothing basic basically. >> Yeah. 2024 02:53:55,600 --> 02:54:01,840 » It failed. Yes. That's what I was doing. >> Yeah. 2025 02:53:59,120 --> 02:54:05,840 » All right. Okay. So which means that we decline it the 500,000 and it will go 2026 02:54:04,000 --> 02:54:12,479 back to the state of Washington and good luck state of Washington. Right. Very 2027 02:54:08,640 --> 02:54:15,479 good. I love the law. Okay. All right. Um 2028 02:54:15,920 --> 02:54:21,359 moving to committee members. Okay. Now we move. Okay. Unfinished business. It 2029 02:54:19,840 --> 02:54:27,840 seems to me there's no unfinished business and councel members. Do you 2030 02:54:23,840 --> 02:54:35,479 have any comment or or or or questions? It seems to me that no one has and I 2031 02:54:30,399 --> 02:54:35,479 will call uh Tony this meeting 8:48 2032 02:54:39,760 --> 02:54:43,160 to remove it.