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-- we're going to go ahead and

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get started. Bueller. So I

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don't want to bang the gavel

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hey, council president. Okay.

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thank you. That's the first time

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I've ever had to use the gavel,

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so. Good afternoon, everyone.

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the august 11th meeting of the

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seattle city council will come

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to order. It is 2:06 p.m.. I'm

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joy hollingsworth, your council

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president. Will the clerk please

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call the roll?

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-- councilmember foster

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councilmember juarez.

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-- councilmember kettle here.

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-- councilmember lin here.

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-- councilmember rinck here.

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-- councilmember rivera.

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present. Councilmember saka.

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councilmember strauss council

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president. Hollingsworth.

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-- here.

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-- seven. Present.

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-- awesome councilmember.

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councilmember juarez. You said

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seven. Present. Okay.

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councilmember juarez and

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councilmember foster are excused

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until they get here. I know they

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stepped out today. The council

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will present three

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proclamations. Will present two.

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excuse me, two proclamations.

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the first one is presented on

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susan hahn appreciation day by

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councilmember rinck. And the

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second proclamation will be

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presented by councilmember saka.

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recognizing west seattle little

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league day. So we will start

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with councilmember rinck.

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-- thank you, council president

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colleagues. I am so excited to

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be presenting this proclamation

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today to honor the work of susan

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hahn of the seattle channel, the

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award winning seattle channel.

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-- now, mayor wilson, along with

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eight city councilmembers, have

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added their signatures and

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proclaimed today, august 11th,

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2026, as susan hahn appreciation

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day. Now I know I've met susan

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in community from labor at

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linda's events to also a group

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bike ride in chophouse row. But

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many know susan out in community

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and through her work through

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seattle channel, she has

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facilitated an empowered

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communities and people from

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across the city to tell their

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stories. So I felt compelled to

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bring this proclamation to

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fruition after I heard of

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susan's retirement from our own

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brian callanan. And I want to

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give a big thanks to brian for

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working with my office in

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drafting this proclamation and

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bringing us all here today. So

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without further ado, I'd like

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to read the proclamation, and

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then we'll have a couple of

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speakers to speak on. Susan hahn

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appreciation day, and we will

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take a group photo. So whereas

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susan hahn, a senior producer at

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the seattle channel since 2007,

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has retired after an inspiring,

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award winning career. And

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whereas she was born in london

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and raised in singapore and

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followed her natural lifelong

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curiosity to ask meaningful

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questions by pursuing work

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overseas in the field of

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journalism. Whereas she moved to

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the united states in 1987 to

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attend the university of

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washington, where she earned a

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communications degree in 1990.

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and whereas she began a career

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in broadcast journalism spanning

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nearly 40 years, including

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nearly two decades at seattle

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channel, 15 years as a senior

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producer at casey ts9 and as a

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researcher at king tv's evening

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magazine. And whereas her work

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at seattle channel has included

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coverage of the pike place

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market centennial in 2007, as

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well as programs such as art

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stories and seattle speaks. And

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whereas her ability to speak

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four languages english, french,

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mandarin and cantonese, and her

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allowed her to lead production

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on a program about seattle

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sister cities of knots. And

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whereas the bulk of her work at

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dedicated to producing more than

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a public affairs show known for

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the tough but fair approach she

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douglas and brian callanan. And

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whereas she researched topics,

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persuading people with opposing

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viewpoints to sit down together

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for civil conversations about

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seattle's biggest and most

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controversial issues. From gun

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control to homelessness, as well

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as spirited debates between

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opposing political candidates.

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and whereas she has won eight

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regional emmy awards and

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contributed to seattle channel

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station excellence award in

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2025, which recognizes

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outstanding overall operations,

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local programing and community

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involvement of a television

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station as compared to all

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television stations in the

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region of washington, idaho,

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oregon and montana. And whereas,

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she became a u.s. Citizen in

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2019 and has had a major

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influence far beyond television

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with her involvement in the

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asian american journalists

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association starting in 1991,

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where she served as co-president

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and has advocated for more asian

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american journalists and

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journalists of color in

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newsrooms. And whereas her

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inspiring career and unmatched

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contributions have helped shape

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the seattle channel into what it

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is today, an award winning

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television station and digital

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media platform that inspires,

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informs and connects the seattle

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community. Now, therefore, the

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mayor and seattle city council

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proclaim august 11th, 2026 to be

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susan hahn appreciation day.

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-- thank you.

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-- awesome. Thank you.

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councilmember rinck are there

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any other councilmembers that

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before we suspend the rules? So

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suspend the rules. So the

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proclamation could be presented.

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and then we also have three

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guests. We have brian callahan

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who's going to speak shannon g.

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and then susan herself. Oh there

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is someone who wanted oh sorry.

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councilmember rivera thank you.

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-- thank you, council president.

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I just want to say that I was

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not present at yesterday's

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meeting, but of course, I would

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have signed the proclamation. I

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really want to congratulate

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susan hahn for her service to

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the city and at the seattle

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channel. So wanted to say that

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for the record. And

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congratulations to her. Thank

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councilmember rivera. Okay, so

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proclamation and then I will

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brian callahan? Callanan I'm

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sorry, I always mess up. I'm

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sorry. Brian. Yes. Okay,

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awesome. Shannon. Then brian and

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welcome. Hey. Hi.

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-- I'm shannon g. I'm the

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general manager of the seattle

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channel, and I am so excited.

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that is susan hahn appreciation

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day. Every day is susan hahn

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appreciation day at the seattle

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channel. We are so grateful and

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proud to have had susan working

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with us and the city of seattle

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for nearly two decades. She was

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the incomparable senior producer

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for our public affairs program,

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city inside out, and we all

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became sharper, smarter, and

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more civically engaged due to

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personality, and her commitment

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to finding the voices to speak

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about our city. She brought us

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all together around that frosted

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studios to discuss, learn and

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community. I love that this

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proclamation is happening here

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in chambers, as this is a key

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place where susan took her cues

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and ran with them, describing

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susan as a skilled and trusted

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news producer. Doesn't say the

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half of it. Her power to turn

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the issues discussed in this

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building into civic

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participation is testament to

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her ability to simultaneously

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complex issues, and her

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generosity in inviting many of

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so congratulations to susan

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seattle channel. Thanks you for

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all your years of service, your

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tireless community building, and

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your dedication to upholding

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media integrity and informing

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-- brian, welcome.

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-- brief interlude. Before I

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-- hello. I'm josephine chang,

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former news reporter at como

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magazine. Producer, reporter at

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kcts, as well as seattle

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as anchor at king five news.

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hello, joy. And also a proud

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friend of susan hahn.

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-- as you can see, dear city

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council, susan has quite a

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cheering squad here today.

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that's because those of us who

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have worked with her and who

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have known her for decades,

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definitely know that she is

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indeed a treasure.

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-- at king-tv. Susan was a

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kcts nine. She produced many

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award winning documentaries and

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shows, and of course here at

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seattle channel, where she

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produced city inside out, as

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well as other emmy award winning

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stories and shows

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-- hard working, diligent,

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creative and thoughtful. Susan

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will not quit until the story or

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show is booked, until every

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component of a shoot is

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finalized, until every sentence

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of the script is polished, and

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until every frame of video is

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edited in the best possible way.

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given the constraints, she's

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really conscientious about

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making sure multiple sides of

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the story are heard. She is

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relentless about excellence in

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storytelling, when so much less

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than that is considered

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acceptable. And she is a strong

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advocate for civic journalism.

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when there's so much pressure

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working against it.

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-- we'd like to thank the

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seattle city council and

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councilmember rinck in

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particular for recognizing

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susan, who's not only a fine

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producer, but she is also a

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wife, a mother and a genuine

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friend. Thank you so much for

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recognizing her.

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-- thank you.

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-- susan, thank you.

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-- [applause]

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-- and councilmembers, thank you

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for this recognition. During a

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busy time. Thank you to

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councilmember rinck for

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shepherding this through and all

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for staff. It's susan hahn

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appreciation day, and I

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definitely appreciate her. So

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for the past 15 years, I've

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worked with susan at seattle

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channel together. We've

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actually produced more than 300

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episodes of city inside out.

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she's produced more than 500.

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so we'll make sure we get that

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correction out there. And I'm

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talking about conversations with

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each of you as candidates. As

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you might remember there. I can

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say without hesitation that

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susan is one of the finest

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journalists and colleagues I've

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ever known, and a fierce and

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loving friend. Before there was

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ai, there was susan. If you

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wanted the cell phone number of

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the press secretary for a

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candidate that was on seattle

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channel nine years ago, you

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would ask susan if you wanted

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opposing voices to speak out

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about transgender bathrooms or

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immigration policy. You'd ask

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susan or work to research

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issues, book guests with

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competing voices to sit next to

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each other and sharpen. The

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questions that I wrote have set

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the standard for fairness at

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seattle channel, guests knew

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they might face hard questions,

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but they also knew they'd be

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treated with respect. You don't

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often hear that word in relation

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to government affairs reporting

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in today's world, but susan

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lives out that ethic every day.

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susan earned eight emmys in

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career. In her career, you

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probably heard that, but I'd say

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at least nine because the emmy

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that I won for best tv host a

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few years back is completely

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thanks to her. I hope her

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legacy, though, isn't completely

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measured by the awards she won

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or her decades of volunteer

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service to the asian american

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journalists association or the

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bellevue school district. Her

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legacy is truly all around you.

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from informing people about the

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work of local government to

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educating people about what's on

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their ballot. For nearly two

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decades, susan always had an

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exacting approach on the job

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because she knows the work of

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public affairs matters. She's

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persistent because the public

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deserves answers, and she sees

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the humanity in every issue,

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too. I recall working with her

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on a fentanyl documentary three

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years ago. She set up an

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interview with a mother who had

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lost her child to an overdose.

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it was susan who talked with

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this mother and helped her find

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the courage to open the door.

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she kept closed to her

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daughter's room since her death.

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talk to us about how her

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daughter died, and tell her

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important story to the world.

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seattle is better informed

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because of susan seattle channel

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is stronger because of her and

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all of us who have worked beside

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her are better because of her

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example. I'm going to keep

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working on city inside out at

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seattle channel to honor

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susan's legacy with her spirit

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in my heart, susan, you have all

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my love and thanks.

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congratulations on your

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retirement and happy susan hahn

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appreciation day. I will

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appreciate you for every day to

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come. Thank you counsel.

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-- thank you brian.

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-- [applause]

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-- and now we have miss susan

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hahn. Welcome your day.

427
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-- thank you.

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-- councilmember rinck, first of

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all, for this nomination.

430
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where'd she go?

431
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-- [laughter]

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-- there you are. I'm just so

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thrilled and relieved that the

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city council and mayor wilson

435
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found something to agree on.

436
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-- hey, hey

437
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-- [laughter]

438
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-- oh.

439
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-- seriously

440
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-- blown away by this

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proclamation. For the last 19

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years, my goal as seattle

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channel producer has simply

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been, to be fair, thorough and

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balanced. Journalistic integrity

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is my north star, and it means

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the world to be recognized for

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it. A huge thank you to my

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family and friends who have

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supported me every step of the

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way, including those who are in

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the room here today to my first

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seattle channel station manager,

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gary gibson. Thanks for hiring

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me to the amazing seattle

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channel team, especially my two

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inside out co-hosts, brian

458
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callanan and kr douglas, who are

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both here. Thank you so much for

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your dedication and hard work

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over the years. It's truly been

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an honor working with both of

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you I'm hopeful the station

464
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will continue its excellent work

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and keep winning those emmys.

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and to the city employees,

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elected officials, and community

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members who have said yes to our

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interview requests over the

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decades, our shows would not

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have happened without you. Thank

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you very much.

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-- awesome. Thank you. Susan.

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-- [applause]

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-- and.

476
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-- [applause]

477
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-- tep.

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-- [applause]

479
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-- joy.

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-- [applause]

481
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-- joy.

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-- [applause]

483
00:14:54,426 --> 00:14:55,194
-- we're going to take this

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microphone and now we're going

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to take a group photo. So we'll

486
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have susan and everyone come up

487
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to the front. Not everyone in

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the audience, but the folks.

489
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-- [laughter]

490
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-- sorry, just letting you all

491
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know only the only the people

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that are coming up, I guess they

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know. And then deanna lee will

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take a photo. We'll pause here.

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it will be quiet.

496
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-- [laughter]

497
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-- thank you, thank you.

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-- [laughter]

499
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-- no no no no.

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-- [laughter]

501
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-- no, I know.

502
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-- [laughter]

503
00:15:20,486 --> 00:15:20,886
-- what you mean.

504
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-- [laughter]

505
00:15:21,220 --> 00:15:26,725
-- I know what you mean. Yeah.

506
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-- [laughter]

507
00:15:27,192 --> 00:15:27,960
-- thank you for letting us do

508
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this.

509
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-- [laughter]

510
00:15:30,396 --> 00:15:30,663
-- yeah.

511
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-- [laughter]

512
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-- I think we should do two rows

513
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at least.

514
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-- squish, squish.

515
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-- one more on this side.

516
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-- [laughter]

517
00:15:40,339 --> 00:15:42,942
-- who's running the show?

518
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-- [laughter]

519
00:15:44,877 --> 00:15:47,880
-- people in the back.

520
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-- please. Okay, we're gonna

521
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-- so everyone. So everyone. So

522
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if everyone I have. I have a

523
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microphone. Councilmember

524
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kettle. We're good. So this is

525
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what we're going to we're going

526
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to do. We're going to scrunch

527
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in as best as we can. And we're

528
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going to look at this camera

529
00:16:01,527 --> 00:16:02,628
right here at deanna lee. So

530
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we'll scrunch in. We'll scrunch

531
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in, everyone scrunch in as much

532
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as you can.

533
00:16:09,635 --> 00:16:11,203
-- go right here.

534
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-- as much as you can. We're

535
00:16:12,938 --> 00:16:15,774
scrunching in as much as you

536
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can. All the people that might

537
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be a little shorter. You'll be

538
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in front. Okay, awesome

539
00:16:23,415 --> 00:16:27,052
-- [laughter]

540
00:16:27,052 --> 00:16:27,453
-- can I go down?

541
00:16:27,453 --> 00:16:29,021
-- do want to count us down and

542
00:16:29,021 --> 00:16:30,255
tell us what to do?

543
00:16:30,255 --> 00:16:30,556
-- okay.

544
00:16:30,556 --> 00:16:34,927
-- any more triple up

545
00:16:34,927 --> 00:16:37,162
-- all right, here we go. Okay.

546
00:16:37,162 --> 00:16:38,998
-- everybody can look over here

547
00:16:38,998 --> 00:16:39,932
at the camera. I'm going to

548
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take a couple. Try not to blink.

549
00:16:43,302 --> 00:16:45,771
-- hey, susan.

550
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-- [laughter] [applause]

551
00:16:58,751 --> 00:17:03,489
[laughter]

552
00:17:03,489 --> 00:17:04,089
-- I wasn't here yesterday.

553
00:17:04,089 --> 00:17:06,091
-- sounds wrong. So maybe.

554
00:17:06,091 --> 00:17:08,494
-- thank you. All right. Thank

555
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you all for indulging us. For

556
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the record, we also have

557
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councilmember foster and

558
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councilmember juarez who have

559
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joined us. They have been here

560
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for a long time. I apologize, I

561
00:17:15,634 --> 00:17:17,169
did not recognize y'all when

562
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y'all came in.

563
00:17:17,736 --> 00:17:18,070
-- [laughter]

564
00:17:18,070 --> 00:17:21,407
-- oh, this guy, this guy?

565
00:17:21,407 --> 00:17:21,740
-- [laughter]

566
00:17:21,740 --> 00:17:22,574
-- yeah. Thank you guys. Thanks

567
00:17:22,574 --> 00:17:24,209
so much.

568
00:17:24,209 --> 00:17:26,078
-- okay, so now we will

569
00:17:26,078 --> 00:17:28,847
transition and we have one more

570
00:17:28,847 --> 00:17:30,682
proclamation as well. So thank

571
00:17:30,682 --> 00:17:32,484
you all. And then right after

572
00:17:32,484 --> 00:17:33,819
the proclamation, we'll jump

573
00:17:33,819 --> 00:17:34,987
into public comment. So if you

574
00:17:34,987 --> 00:17:35,888
are online and listening, we

575
00:17:35,888 --> 00:17:37,456
have one more proclamation and

576
00:17:37,456 --> 00:17:41,360
we will jump right in online.

577
00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:41,794
councilmember sok,

578
00:17:41,794 --> 00:17:43,095
congratulations, susan and team

579
00:17:43,095 --> 00:17:43,896
in seattle channel. Thank you

580
00:17:43,896 --> 00:17:46,231
for all the work that you all

581
00:17:46,231 --> 00:17:47,533
do. We're so grateful for our

582
00:17:47,533 --> 00:17:49,435
seattle channel, emmy award

583
00:17:49,435 --> 00:17:51,403
winning seattle channel. All

584
00:17:51,403 --> 00:17:53,138
right. Councilmember saka will

585
00:17:53,138 --> 00:17:53,739
now address the proclamation

586
00:17:53,739 --> 00:17:55,908
recognizing august 11th, 2026 to

587
00:17:55,908 --> 00:17:57,810
be west seattle little league

588
00:17:57,810 --> 00:17:59,178
softball day. Councilmember saka

589
00:17:59,178 --> 00:18:02,314
you are recognized.

590
00:18:02,314 --> 00:18:02,648
-- [applause]

591
00:18:02,648 --> 00:18:04,283
-- thank you, madam council

592
00:18:04,283 --> 00:18:05,451
president, colleagues, members

593
00:18:05,451 --> 00:18:07,519
of the public. So today we get

594
00:18:07,519 --> 00:18:09,988
to honor and celebrate

595
00:18:09,988 --> 00:18:14,326
achievement and journalism and

596
00:18:14,326 --> 00:18:17,329
girls softball in west seattle

597
00:18:17,329 --> 00:18:20,999
today, I am incredibly proud to

598
00:18:20,999 --> 00:18:22,968
introduce a proclamation to

599
00:18:22,968 --> 00:18:23,469
celebrate the historic

600
00:18:23,469 --> 00:18:24,203
achievement of the west seattle

601
00:18:24,203 --> 00:18:26,338
little league girls 11 u

602
00:18:26,338 --> 00:18:27,873
softball team for winning the

603
00:18:27,873 --> 00:18:30,042
whole dang thing. The whole

604
00:18:30,042 --> 00:18:32,611
state tournament at this year's

605
00:18:32,611 --> 00:18:34,646
championship. Their hard work,

606
00:18:34,646 --> 00:18:37,616
teamwork and dedication truly

607
00:18:37,616 --> 00:18:39,051
embody the spirit of our

608
00:18:39,051 --> 00:18:41,653
community and that of our city.

609
00:18:41,653 --> 00:18:44,957
they played seven games in seven

610
00:18:44,957 --> 00:18:47,659
days and defeated the same team

611
00:18:47,659 --> 00:18:49,228
that handed them their first and

612
00:18:49,228 --> 00:18:51,763
only loss. Not once, but twice

613
00:18:51,763 --> 00:18:55,701
to claim the state title. And

614
00:18:55,701 --> 00:18:57,569
now I'm honored to read a few

615
00:18:57,569 --> 00:19:00,038
select passages from this

616
00:19:00,038 --> 00:19:02,508
honorary proclamation. I'll just

617
00:19:02,508 --> 00:19:04,309
share that I was a I was a fan.

618
00:19:04,309 --> 00:19:07,246
I'm a fan of all u sports

619
00:19:07,246 --> 00:19:09,715
across district one. I'm a proud

620
00:19:09,715 --> 00:19:11,016
resident of district one, so

621
00:19:11,016 --> 00:19:13,752
I've been following along on

622
00:19:13,752 --> 00:19:15,153
the sidelines, cheering on

623
00:19:15,153 --> 00:19:17,422
reading west seattle blog

624
00:19:17,422 --> 00:19:20,092
articles, articles from west

625
00:19:20,092 --> 00:19:22,027
side seattle about our various

626
00:19:22,027 --> 00:19:24,363
youth sports teams, and really

627
00:19:24,363 --> 00:19:25,364
excited to be able to cheer them

628
00:19:25,364 --> 00:19:29,268
on as a fan. This one is

629
00:19:29,268 --> 00:19:29,902
particularly proud because I got

630
00:19:29,902 --> 00:19:32,171
to cheer them on as a member of

631
00:19:32,171 --> 00:19:34,139
the community and cheer the team

632
00:19:34,139 --> 00:19:35,340
on and the coaches on. As a

633
00:19:35,340 --> 00:19:37,509
proud father of one of the

634
00:19:37,509 --> 00:19:40,379
players. So I'm going to read a

635
00:19:40,379 --> 00:19:42,981
few select passages of this

636
00:19:42,981 --> 00:19:45,617
proclamation right now. Whereas

637
00:19:45,617 --> 00:19:48,720
the west seattle little league

638
00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,622
11 u. Girls softball team has

639
00:19:50,622 --> 00:19:53,525
demonstrated exceptional talent,

640
00:19:53,525 --> 00:19:56,428
teamwork, accomplishment and

641
00:19:56,428 --> 00:19:57,062
sportsmanship throughout their

642
00:19:57,062 --> 00:19:57,930
2026 season. And whereas the

643
00:19:57,930 --> 00:20:00,832
team achieved an outstanding

644
00:20:00,832 --> 00:20:03,569
combined record of 55 and ten,

645
00:20:03,569 --> 00:20:06,138
going six and one in the state

646
00:20:06,138 --> 00:20:08,273
tournament, playing seven games

647
00:20:08,273 --> 00:20:09,908
in seven days and securing a

648
00:20:09,908 --> 00:20:12,778
decisive victory to win the 2026

649
00:20:12,778 --> 00:20:14,479
washington state championship.

650
00:20:14,479 --> 00:20:15,514
and whereas this marks the first

651
00:20:15,514 --> 00:20:17,282
ever state championship won by a

652
00:20:17,282 --> 00:20:20,719
west seattle little league

653
00:20:20,719 --> 00:20:24,790
softball team first ever.

654
00:20:24,790 --> 00:20:25,190
-- [applause]

655
00:20:25,190 --> 00:20:26,058
-- one of 23.

656
00:20:26,058 --> 00:20:27,793
-- west seattle little league

657
00:20:27,793 --> 00:20:29,861
teams and the only girls

658
00:20:29,861 --> 00:20:30,696
softball team to earn a state

659
00:20:30,696 --> 00:20:34,333
title. Whereas the girls

660
00:20:34,333 --> 00:20:36,468
captivated the hearts of those

661
00:20:36,468 --> 00:20:38,270
following their historic run,

662
00:20:38,270 --> 00:20:40,305
inspiring a wave of community

663
00:20:40,305 --> 00:20:43,742
pride and excitement in west

664
00:20:43,742 --> 00:20:46,778
seattle and beyond. And now,

665
00:20:46,778 --> 00:20:49,581
therefore, the seattle city

666
00:20:49,581 --> 00:20:52,784
council does hereby proclaim

667
00:20:52,784 --> 00:20:55,487
august 11th, 2026 to be west

668
00:20:55,487 --> 00:20:58,957
seattle little league softball

669
00:20:58,957 --> 00:20:59,157
day.

670
00:20:59,157 --> 00:21:03,161
-- [applause]

671
00:21:03,161 --> 00:21:04,730
-- congratulations on this

672
00:21:04,730 --> 00:21:06,198
historic run, colleagues. I'll

673
00:21:06,198 --> 00:21:08,133
note that not many teams from

674
00:21:08,133 --> 00:21:09,534
the city of seattle little

675
00:21:09,534 --> 00:21:10,135
league or rec teams from the

676
00:21:10,135 --> 00:21:12,104
city of seattle ended up winning

677
00:21:12,104 --> 00:21:14,906
major state championships like

678
00:21:14,906 --> 00:21:16,575
this. And and so we're

679
00:21:16,575 --> 00:21:17,776
incredibly, incredibly proud of

680
00:21:17,776 --> 00:21:20,145
the west seattle little league

681
00:21:20,145 --> 00:21:20,579
team because their

682
00:21:20,579 --> 00:21:21,780
accomplishments and achievements

683
00:21:21,780 --> 00:21:22,881
reflect not only great credit

684
00:21:22,881 --> 00:21:25,117
upon the west seattle community,

685
00:21:25,117 --> 00:21:27,552
but from a citywide perspective

686
00:21:27,552 --> 00:21:29,254
as well. And again, first girls

687
00:21:29,254 --> 00:21:32,591
softball team at in west seattle

688
00:21:32,591 --> 00:21:34,826
history to to do it, joining

689
00:21:34,826 --> 00:21:36,361
only two other baseball teams

690
00:21:36,361 --> 00:21:39,131
over 20 years. So

691
00:21:39,131 --> 00:21:39,765
congratulations. Would love the

692
00:21:39,765 --> 00:21:41,533
opportunity for a few speakers

693
00:21:41,533 --> 00:21:43,502
to say a few words. Madam

694
00:21:43,502 --> 00:21:44,870
council president, if it's

695
00:21:44,870 --> 00:21:47,172
okay. And then we'll present

696
00:21:47,172 --> 00:21:47,572
the proclamation.

697
00:21:47,572 --> 00:21:48,140
-- absolutely. You got it,

698
00:21:48,140 --> 00:21:49,374
councilmember saka I will. I'll

699
00:21:49,374 --> 00:21:50,842
pause here to see if any other

700
00:21:50,842 --> 00:21:52,678
councilmember would like to say

701
00:21:52,678 --> 00:21:53,278
some comments. Councilmember

702
00:21:53,278 --> 00:21:55,981
rivera.

703
00:21:55,981 --> 00:21:56,615
-- thank you, council president.

704
00:21:56,615 --> 00:21:58,283
like the last proclamation, I

705
00:21:58,283 --> 00:22:03,021
was not present when signatures

706
00:22:03,021 --> 00:22:04,723
were needed to be added. So

707
00:22:04,723 --> 00:22:06,558
congratulations. I would have

708
00:22:06,558 --> 00:22:07,292
added my signature had I been

709
00:22:07,292 --> 00:22:09,294
here. And I'm so excited for

710
00:22:09,294 --> 00:22:10,095
you all. Thank you.

711
00:22:10,095 --> 00:22:11,596
-- awesome. Thank you,

712
00:22:11,596 --> 00:22:12,964
councilmember rivera. And then

713
00:22:12,964 --> 00:22:15,767
now, if there are no objections,

714
00:22:15,767 --> 00:22:17,869
I'm going to suspend the rules.

715
00:22:17,869 --> 00:22:18,403
so councilmember saka can

716
00:22:18,403 --> 00:22:21,239
present the proclamation and my

717
00:22:21,239 --> 00:22:21,907
understanding. You have the team

718
00:22:21,907 --> 00:22:22,974
manager, brant here, coaches

719
00:22:22,974 --> 00:22:25,844
brooke fox and james frazier

720
00:22:25,844 --> 00:22:28,013
that are here as well. And then

721
00:22:28,013 --> 00:22:28,380
other speakers.

722
00:22:28,380 --> 00:22:30,248
-- yes, that's correct, madam

723
00:22:30,248 --> 00:22:31,883
council president, shall they

724
00:22:31,883 --> 00:22:32,884
speak first before we do the

725
00:22:32,884 --> 00:22:33,919
official presentation?

726
00:22:33,919 --> 00:22:35,020
-- or you could do the. Yeah.

727
00:22:35,020 --> 00:22:36,555
you could present the

728
00:22:36,555 --> 00:22:37,756
proclamation and then they can

729
00:22:37,756 --> 00:22:38,957
speak whichever whichever way

730
00:22:38,957 --> 00:22:39,291
you'd like.

731
00:22:39,291 --> 00:22:39,958
-- maybe we'll let them speak

732
00:22:39,958 --> 00:22:40,192
first.

733
00:22:40,192 --> 00:22:42,961
-- yeah. All right. So we're

734
00:22:42,961 --> 00:22:45,263
having a team manager brant and

735
00:22:45,263 --> 00:22:49,334
then coaches brooke and james.

736
00:22:49,334 --> 00:22:57,142
welcome.

737
00:22:57,375 --> 00:22:59,111
-- I'm I'm a coach of the west

738
00:22:59,111 --> 00:22:59,377
seattle.

739
00:22:59,377 --> 00:23:00,479
-- talking the microphone brant

740
00:23:00,479 --> 00:23:01,546
or use your coach.

741
00:23:01,546 --> 00:23:03,014
-- I'm the coach of the west

742
00:23:03,014 --> 00:23:05,117
seattle little league along with

743
00:23:05,117 --> 00:23:10,255
coach james and coach brooke

744
00:23:10,255 --> 00:23:10,789
councilmembers, coaches,

745
00:23:10,789 --> 00:23:12,124
families and community members.

746
00:23:12,124 --> 00:23:13,658
thank you for this incredible

747
00:23:13,658 --> 00:23:16,561
honor. On behalf of our u11

748
00:23:16,561 --> 00:23:18,897
girls softball team, we are

749
00:23:18,897 --> 00:23:20,665
proud and grateful to accept

750
00:23:20,665 --> 00:23:21,266
this proclamation recognizing

751
00:23:21,266 --> 00:23:23,435
our state championship season.

752
00:23:23,435 --> 00:23:25,504
these young athletes showed

753
00:23:25,504 --> 00:23:26,505
tremendous dedication, teamwork,

754
00:23:26,505 --> 00:23:28,039
resilience, and sportsmanship

755
00:23:28,039 --> 00:23:30,075
throughout the year. Their

756
00:23:30,075 --> 00:23:31,743
success resulted in countless

757
00:23:31,743 --> 00:23:33,378
hours of effort, along with the

758
00:23:33,378 --> 00:23:34,479
support of their coaches,

759
00:23:34,479 --> 00:23:36,481
parents and the entire

760
00:23:36,481 --> 00:23:37,082
community. Most importantly,

761
00:23:37,082 --> 00:23:38,583
they learned a great thing, a

762
00:23:38,583 --> 00:23:40,419
great thing that can happen when

763
00:23:40,419 --> 00:23:41,353
you work hard, believe in each

764
00:23:41,353 --> 00:23:42,988
other, and have fun along the

765
00:23:42,988 --> 00:23:44,923
way. Thank you for celebrating

766
00:23:44,923 --> 00:23:46,424
these amazing girls and this

767
00:23:46,424 --> 00:23:48,560
special achievement with us. We

768
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:48,994
are truly honored.

769
00:23:48,994 --> 00:23:51,963
-- awesome. Thank you.

770
00:23:51,963 --> 00:23:55,567
-- [applause]

771
00:23:55,567 --> 00:23:57,769
-- I'm going to let mckenzie

772
00:23:57,769 --> 00:23:58,136
heartbeat now.

773
00:23:58,136 --> 00:24:00,372
-- she is one of our star

774
00:24:00,372 --> 00:24:00,939
pitchers of the team.

775
00:24:00,939 --> 00:24:04,543
-- awesome. Welcome.

776
00:24:04,543 --> 00:24:07,913
-- hello hello. My name is

777
00:24:07,913 --> 00:24:09,414
mackenzie hart and I am one of

778
00:24:09,414 --> 00:24:09,948
the pitchers for the west

779
00:24:09,948 --> 00:24:12,818
seattle little league 11. You

780
00:24:12,818 --> 00:24:13,385
all star state championship

781
00:24:13,385 --> 00:24:15,453
team. Thank you for giving me

782
00:24:15,453 --> 00:24:17,322
the opportunity to share what my

783
00:24:17,322 --> 00:24:17,923
teammates and I accomplished

784
00:24:17,923 --> 00:24:20,859
this season. Last year as the

785
00:24:20,859 --> 00:24:22,561
eight nine, ten year old all

786
00:24:22,561 --> 00:24:24,729
star team, we came just one game

787
00:24:24,729 --> 00:24:27,432
short of our goal. We had a

788
00:24:27,432 --> 00:24:28,433
heartbreaking 2 to 1 loss in the

789
00:24:28,433 --> 00:24:29,801
championship game at the state

790
00:24:29,801 --> 00:24:32,070
tournament. Instead of letting

791
00:24:32,070 --> 00:24:33,205
that loss discourage us, we used

792
00:24:33,205 --> 00:24:36,541
it as motivation. We came back

793
00:24:36,541 --> 00:24:38,076
this year ready to work hard,

794
00:24:38,076 --> 00:24:39,945
play together and give it

795
00:24:39,945 --> 00:24:41,780
everything we had. With the

796
00:24:41,780 --> 00:24:43,481
support of our coaches, parents,

797
00:24:43,481 --> 00:24:45,550
families and friends. We worked

798
00:24:45,550 --> 00:24:47,486
hard all season during the

799
00:24:47,486 --> 00:24:49,387
district and state tournaments.

800
00:24:49,387 --> 00:24:51,790
we played ten games, collected

801
00:24:51,790 --> 00:24:55,393
90 hits and scored 86 runs. We

802
00:24:55,393 --> 00:24:57,362
won the district championship

803
00:24:57,362 --> 00:24:58,864
and headed into state tournament

804
00:24:58,864 --> 00:25:00,932
with a lot of confidence. Our

805
00:25:00,932 --> 00:25:02,133
first state game ended in a

806
00:25:02,133 --> 00:25:04,603
tough 3 to 1 loss, which put us

807
00:25:04,603 --> 00:25:06,538
into the consolation bracket. At

808
00:25:06,538 --> 00:25:08,406
that point, we knew that if we

809
00:25:08,406 --> 00:25:09,474
didn't keep winning, our season

810
00:25:09,474 --> 00:25:11,409
would be over. So we kept

811
00:25:11,409 --> 00:25:13,778
fighting. We played almost every

812
00:25:13,778 --> 00:25:16,815
day. We grew stronger as a team,

813
00:25:16,815 --> 00:25:18,683
supported each other and never

814
00:25:18,683 --> 00:25:20,585
gave up. Then on championship

815
00:25:20,585 --> 00:25:22,120
saturday, we had to win twice to

816
00:25:22,120 --> 00:25:24,589
become state champions. We won

817
00:25:24,589 --> 00:25:27,459
our first game 2 to 1 in an

818
00:25:27,459 --> 00:25:28,093
extra inning thriller. Then we

819
00:25:28,093 --> 00:25:29,361
came back and won again, 4 to 1

820
00:25:29,361 --> 00:25:32,831
to secure the championship. We

821
00:25:32,831 --> 00:25:35,166
finished the district in state

822
00:25:35,166 --> 00:25:35,767
championships with a nine and

823
00:25:35,767 --> 00:25:39,337
one record. We outscored our

824
00:25:39,337 --> 00:25:40,605
opponents 55 to 10 and went six

825
00:25:40,605 --> 00:25:42,340
and one at the state

826
00:25:42,340 --> 00:25:43,275
championship state tournament.

827
00:25:43,275 --> 00:25:44,976
during the state tournament, I

828
00:25:44,976 --> 00:25:50,482
threw 433 pitches, recorded 48

829
00:25:50,482 --> 00:25:51,116
strikeouts and allowed just four

830
00:25:51,116 --> 00:25:53,551
earned runs. But the biggest

831
00:25:53,551 --> 00:25:54,119
accomplishment wasn't the

832
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,355
numbers. We made history as west

833
00:25:57,355 --> 00:25:57,989
seattle's first little league

834
00:25:57,989 --> 00:25:59,724
softball state champions. To my

835
00:25:59,724 --> 00:26:01,393
teammates, I'm so proud of

836
00:26:01,393 --> 00:26:03,161
every one of you. Our

837
00:26:03,161 --> 00:26:04,896
outfielders made game saving

838
00:26:04,896 --> 00:26:07,532
catches. Our infielders made

839
00:26:07,532 --> 00:26:09,100
incredible plays, including some

840
00:26:09,100 --> 00:26:10,602
that I honestly didn't think

841
00:26:10,602 --> 00:26:11,870
were possible. And carmen, our

842
00:26:11,870 --> 00:26:13,305
catcher, caught all seven of our

843
00:26:13,305 --> 00:26:15,607
state tournament games. What

844
00:26:15,607 --> 00:26:17,976
makes this team so special

845
00:26:17,976 --> 00:26:19,678
isn't just that we won, it's

846
00:26:19,678 --> 00:26:22,013
the way we played, the respect

847
00:26:22,013 --> 00:26:23,648
we respected our opponents,

848
00:26:23,648 --> 00:26:25,183
supported each other, stayed

849
00:26:25,183 --> 00:26:27,485
positive through the tough

850
00:26:27,485 --> 00:26:28,086
moments and carried ourselves

851
00:26:28,086 --> 00:26:31,122
with class, dignity wherever we

852
00:26:31,122 --> 00:26:32,590
with whether we won or lost. I

853
00:26:32,590 --> 00:26:34,559
am incredibly proud to have been

854
00:26:34,559 --> 00:26:37,329
part of this team. It has been

855
00:26:37,329 --> 00:26:39,097
an honor and privilege to be the

856
00:26:39,097 --> 00:26:40,932
starting pitcher for the west

857
00:26:40,932 --> 00:26:42,000
seattle little league. 11 you

858
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,637
state championship team. I also

859
00:26:45,637 --> 00:26:46,938
want to thank our coaches,

860
00:26:46,938 --> 00:26:49,207
brant, james and brooke for your

861
00:26:49,207 --> 00:26:51,509
dedication, encouragement and

862
00:26:51,509 --> 00:26:52,844
countless hours you spent

863
00:26:52,844 --> 00:26:54,379
helping us become better players

864
00:26:54,379 --> 00:26:56,247
and better teammates. Thank you

865
00:26:56,247 --> 00:26:57,549
to our parents, families,

866
00:26:57,549 --> 00:26:58,883
friends, and everyone in our

867
00:26:58,883 --> 00:27:01,286
community who supported us,

868
00:27:01,286 --> 00:27:02,721
cheered for us and believed in

869
00:27:02,721 --> 00:27:04,923
us along the way and most of

870
00:27:04,923 --> 00:27:07,525
all, thank you to my teammates

871
00:27:07,525 --> 00:27:09,527
for believing in each other,

872
00:27:09,527 --> 00:27:11,229
fighting for each other, and

873
00:27:11,229 --> 00:27:12,664
never giving up. Last year we

874
00:27:12,664 --> 00:27:14,366
came up one game short. This

875
00:27:14,366 --> 00:27:16,701
year we finished the job. We

876
00:27:16,701 --> 00:27:18,603
didn't just win a championship,

877
00:27:18,603 --> 00:27:20,038
we made west seattle history.

878
00:27:20,038 --> 00:27:22,774
thank you.

879
00:27:22,774 --> 00:27:30,482
-- [applause]

880
00:27:30,615 --> 00:27:31,316
[applause]

881
00:27:31,316 --> 00:27:34,486
-- and then the rules have been

882
00:27:34,486 --> 00:27:35,086
suspended. Councilmember saka

883
00:27:35,086 --> 00:27:37,489
will come to present the

884
00:27:37,489 --> 00:27:38,890
proclamation. And then would you

885
00:27:38,890 --> 00:27:40,892
also like a picture?

886
00:27:40,892 --> 00:27:41,459
councilmember saka as well?

887
00:27:41,459 --> 00:27:43,561
okay, awesome. And then we will

888
00:27:43,561 --> 00:27:44,562
invite the young girls to come

889
00:27:44,562 --> 00:27:47,198
up. We're going to take a photo

890
00:27:47,198 --> 00:27:49,334
to together. So if you all just

891
00:27:49,334 --> 00:27:51,002
start making your way right here

892
00:27:51,002 --> 00:27:56,007
to the right. Just this way,

893
00:27:56,007 --> 00:28:00,645
just follow awesome. And then

894
00:28:00,645 --> 00:28:03,048
right after this photo, we will

895
00:28:03,048 --> 00:28:05,283
jump right into public comment.

896
00:28:05,283 --> 00:28:05,950
okay, awesome. Thank you all. So

897
00:28:05,950 --> 00:28:08,787
we'll come up here, we'll take

898
00:28:08,787 --> 00:28:10,055
a photo with our young girls

899
00:28:10,055 --> 00:28:12,123
from the 11. You the state

900
00:28:12,123 --> 00:28:14,392
championship team. Hey,

901
00:28:14,392 --> 00:28:20,765
congrats. Congrats

902
00:28:20,765 --> 00:28:21,366
-- congratulate. Awesome.

903
00:28:21,366 --> 00:28:21,833
-- you guys, come on.

904
00:28:21,833 --> 00:28:24,135
-- this way. Congratulations.

905
00:28:24,135 --> 00:28:25,070
congrats, congrats, congrats.

906
00:28:25,070 --> 00:28:31,242
thank congratulations. Thank you

907
00:28:31,242 --> 00:28:33,078
thank you.

908
00:28:33,078 --> 00:28:34,245
-- I'm gonna give these to you.

909
00:28:34,245 --> 00:28:35,013
-- okay, guys, come over here.

910
00:28:35,013 --> 00:28:36,548
you guys come over here. Yeah,

911
00:28:36,548 --> 00:28:38,116
yeah. You guys, come over here.

912
00:28:38,116 --> 00:28:42,420
scooch down oh, yeah.

913
00:28:42,420 --> 00:28:42,754
-- [laughter]

914
00:28:42,754 --> 00:28:43,388
-- double up there.

915
00:28:43,388 --> 00:28:43,721
-- [laughter]

916
00:28:43,721 --> 00:28:45,757
-- I'm doubling up. How about

917
00:28:45,757 --> 00:28:46,991
you stand forward and then your

918
00:28:46,991 --> 00:28:47,525
coach can stand.

919
00:28:47,525 --> 00:28:47,759
-- in.

920
00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:49,227
-- the back and then we can get

921
00:28:49,227 --> 00:28:51,663
a little closer. I'm not even.

922
00:28:51,663 --> 00:28:54,532
okay, slide that way. How do we

923
00:28:54,532 --> 00:28:58,536
look? Right.

924
00:28:58,536 --> 00:29:02,474
-- take a couple still smile.

925
00:29:02,474 --> 00:29:05,577
-- perfect. Thank you.

926
00:29:05,577 --> 00:29:13,151
-- [applause]

927
00:29:13,284 --> 00:29:13,718
[applause]

928
00:29:13,718 --> 00:29:14,219
-- so cool.

929
00:29:14,219 --> 00:29:14,552
-- [laughter]

930
00:29:14,552 --> 00:29:18,890
-- that's incredible there.

931
00:29:18,890 --> 00:29:19,190
-- awesome.

932
00:29:19,190 --> 00:29:21,426
-- there we go.

933
00:29:21,426 --> 00:29:23,261
-- congratulations. I heard I

934
00:29:23,261 --> 00:29:24,496
heard the the girls up here

935
00:29:24,496 --> 00:29:25,830
talking about back to back.

936
00:29:25,830 --> 00:29:27,599
that's what I did. I heard I

937
00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:28,566
heard them say back to back

938
00:29:28,566 --> 00:29:30,468
titles. That's what I heard

939
00:29:30,468 --> 00:29:31,836
someone said back to back. Okay,

940
00:29:31,836 --> 00:29:34,305
I know we're going to jump

941
00:29:34,305 --> 00:29:36,074
right into the public comment.

942
00:29:36,074 --> 00:29:36,741
colleagues, at this time, we're

943
00:29:36,741 --> 00:29:38,209
going to open up our favorite

944
00:29:38,209 --> 00:29:39,477
time, which is our hybrid public

945
00:29:39,477 --> 00:29:41,212
comment period. Public comment

946
00:29:41,212 --> 00:29:44,215
is limited to items on today's

947
00:29:44,215 --> 00:29:44,749
agenda. The introduction,

948
00:29:44,749 --> 00:29:45,917
referral calendar and the

949
00:29:45,917 --> 00:29:46,618
council's work program. The

950
00:29:46,618 --> 00:29:49,587
council cannot accept comments

951
00:29:49,587 --> 00:29:51,623
on quasi-judicial items or

952
00:29:51,623 --> 00:29:52,257
campaign related matters. Clerk

953
00:29:52,257 --> 00:29:53,925
how many speakers do we have

954
00:29:53,925 --> 00:29:54,325
signed up today?

955
00:29:54,325 --> 00:29:57,228
-- we have 75 in person and 30

956
00:29:57,228 --> 00:29:59,631
remote.

957
00:29:59,631 --> 00:30:01,566
-- you said 75 in person, 75 in

958
00:30:01,566 --> 00:30:05,570
person, plus 3530 remote. Okay,

959
00:30:05,570 --> 00:30:08,106
awesome. So we are going to go

960
00:30:08,106 --> 00:30:09,607
over time and for that's

961
00:30:09,607 --> 00:30:10,875
allotted for our public comment

962
00:30:10,875 --> 00:30:11,943
period. So I am going to ask my

963
00:30:11,943 --> 00:30:13,611
colleagues, we're going to hear

964
00:30:13,611 --> 00:30:14,646
everyone speak today. Is that

965
00:30:14,646 --> 00:30:16,848
cool? I will not continue to

966
00:30:16,848 --> 00:30:17,882
extend the time. We'll go as

967
00:30:17,882 --> 00:30:19,751
long as it takes. Is that cool?

968
00:30:19,751 --> 00:30:20,718
I'm looking left and right.

969
00:30:20,718 --> 00:30:23,755
awesome. All right. So because

970
00:30:23,755 --> 00:30:26,491
we have over 100 people, we have

971
00:30:26,491 --> 00:30:27,258
about 100 people. We're we are

972
00:30:27,258 --> 00:30:29,827
going to do one minute. If you

973
00:30:29,827 --> 00:30:31,129
have 60 or less, it's less than

974
00:30:31,129 --> 00:30:32,297
one minute. I think that would

975
00:30:32,297 --> 00:30:34,199
just be ridiculous to do. 30s.

976
00:30:34,199 --> 00:30:35,733
so everyone's going to get one

977
00:30:35,733 --> 00:30:37,435
minute. Will the clerk please

978
00:30:37,435 --> 00:30:39,237
read the instructions to the

979
00:30:39,237 --> 00:30:41,806
public comment period?

980
00:30:41,806 --> 00:30:43,274
-- the public period will be

981
00:30:43,274 --> 00:30:44,609
moderated in the following

982
00:30:44,609 --> 00:30:45,310
manner. Speakers will be called

983
00:30:45,310 --> 00:30:46,411
in the order in which they

984
00:30:46,411 --> 00:30:47,612
registered. Speakers will hear a

985
00:30:47,612 --> 00:30:50,315
chime with 10 seconds left of

986
00:30:50,315 --> 00:30:51,182
their time. Speakers will be

987
00:30:51,182 --> 00:30:52,684
muted if they do not in their

988
00:30:52,684 --> 00:30:53,351
comments within the allotted

989
00:30:53,351 --> 00:30:54,252
time, to allow us to call the

990
00:30:54,252 --> 00:30:55,620
next speaker. The public comment

991
00:30:55,620 --> 00:30:56,521
period is now open and will

992
00:30:56,521 --> 00:30:57,855
begin with the first speaker on

993
00:30:57,855 --> 00:30:58,623
the list.

994
00:30:58,623 --> 00:30:59,290
-- awesome. If you're waiting

995
00:30:59,290 --> 00:31:00,058
online, we're going to do the

996
00:31:00,058 --> 00:31:01,226
first 30 in person. We're going

997
00:31:01,226 --> 00:31:02,393
to bounce to you online and

998
00:31:02,393 --> 00:31:03,895
we're going to come back. So if

999
00:31:03,895 --> 00:31:05,296
you're online, we're going to

1000
00:31:05,296 --> 00:31:06,030
do 30 in person and then we will

1001
00:31:06,030 --> 00:31:07,899
come to you. So that will be

1002
00:31:07,899 --> 00:31:11,536
about around 3053 ten is when it

1003
00:31:11,536 --> 00:31:13,404
looks like we'll jump back

1004
00:31:13,404 --> 00:31:14,772
online. All right, we have

1005
00:31:14,772 --> 00:31:17,675
yvette dinish followed by

1006
00:31:17,675 --> 00:31:19,210
josephine chang, samantha poe.

1007
00:31:19,210 --> 00:31:22,380
then we have powell, julian

1008
00:31:22,380 --> 00:31:26,050
mantei el aaron and josh. And I

1009
00:31:26,050 --> 00:31:27,318
apologize if I miss if I said

1010
00:31:27,318 --> 00:31:29,287
your name wrong, I apologize.

1011
00:31:29,287 --> 00:31:31,022
but first we have miss yvette.

1012
00:31:31,022 --> 00:31:33,291
come on up. All right.

1013
00:31:33,291 --> 00:31:34,592
josephine, samantha. Poe. Paul.

1014
00:31:34,592 --> 00:31:38,329
julian mante, el aaron and josh.

1015
00:31:38,329 --> 00:31:39,764
-- impressive intended today,

1016
00:31:39,764 --> 00:31:42,267
isn't it? I pledge allegiance

1017
00:31:42,267 --> 00:31:44,402
to the flag of the united states

1018
00:31:44,402 --> 00:31:45,970
of america and to the republic

1019
00:31:45,970 --> 00:31:48,273
for which it stands. One nation

1020
00:31:48,273 --> 00:31:52,010
under god, indivisible, with

1021
00:31:52,010 --> 00:31:54,012
liberty and justice for all. I

1022
00:31:54,012 --> 00:31:56,281
also want to, in support of

1023
00:31:56,281 --> 00:31:57,715
councilmember rivera's urging

1024
00:31:57,715 --> 00:31:59,517
the mayor to work with the

1025
00:31:59,517 --> 00:32:00,551
national network for safe

1026
00:32:00,551 --> 00:32:02,787
communities, widely recognized

1027
00:32:02,787 --> 00:32:03,955
for delivering results, I

1028
00:32:03,955 --> 00:32:05,556
encourage her and to keep

1029
00:32:05,556 --> 00:32:08,393
pushing on that. And there's a

1030
00:32:08,393 --> 00:32:09,527
program in philadelphia called

1031
00:32:09,527 --> 00:32:12,063
the a gbic that's had very much

1032
00:32:12,063 --> 00:32:12,830
success in reducing gun violence

1033
00:32:12,830 --> 00:32:17,769
and keeping our kids from dying

1034
00:32:17,769 --> 00:32:19,070
unnecessarily. And the only

1035
00:32:19,070 --> 00:32:21,072
other thing I have to say is

1036
00:32:21,072 --> 00:32:22,006
bravo to the parents and the

1037
00:32:22,006 --> 00:32:23,975
support team who support these

1038
00:32:23,975 --> 00:32:27,178
girls in becoming state

1039
00:32:27,178 --> 00:32:27,745
championship and baseball,

1040
00:32:27,745 --> 00:32:29,347
baseball. I wish I'd had those

1041
00:32:29,347 --> 00:32:30,515
programs when I was a kid. Girl

1042
00:32:30,515 --> 00:32:31,616
sports. Thank you very much.

1043
00:32:31,616 --> 00:32:33,818
-- thank you, miss.

1044
00:32:33,818 --> 00:32:34,886
-- chair, regarding that

1045
00:32:34,886 --> 00:32:35,153
program.

1046
00:32:35,153 --> 00:32:36,220
-- thank you, miss yvette. Next

1047
00:32:36,220 --> 00:32:37,889
we have josephine, followed by

1048
00:32:37,889 --> 00:32:43,795
samantha and po. Josephine chang

1049
00:32:43,795 --> 00:32:44,862
here, josephine. No. Okay, next

1050
00:32:44,862 --> 00:32:46,764
we have samantha. Samantha.

1051
00:32:46,764 --> 00:32:48,566
good. Welcome.

1052
00:32:48,566 --> 00:32:49,534
-- hi. Councilmember samantha

1053
00:32:49,534 --> 00:32:51,269
grad here on behalf of teamsters

1054
00:32:51,269 --> 00:32:53,271
117 in support of the rental

1055
00:32:53,271 --> 00:32:54,505
junk fee legislation for many

1056
00:32:54,505 --> 00:32:56,007
years as a renter in the city, I

1057
00:32:56,007 --> 00:32:56,641
remember that dread and

1058
00:32:56,641 --> 00:32:59,010
frustration when your lease was

1059
00:32:59,010 --> 00:32:59,644
up and you were trying to figure

1060
00:32:59,644 --> 00:33:00,645
out, is it going to go up too

1061
00:33:00,645 --> 00:33:02,580
much? I'm not going to be able

1062
00:33:02,580 --> 00:33:03,448
to afford my place. You then

1063
00:33:03,448 --> 00:33:04,916
have to start looking online,

1064
00:33:04,916 --> 00:33:05,850
scouring the internet, trying to

1065
00:33:05,850 --> 00:33:07,518
find a place that is in your

1066
00:33:07,518 --> 00:33:08,953
price range. You go do the

1067
00:33:08,953 --> 00:33:10,154
tours, you find something that

1068
00:33:10,154 --> 00:33:11,956
works, you feel that relief

1069
00:33:11,956 --> 00:33:12,590
except for weight. When you go

1070
00:33:12,590 --> 00:33:13,358
to fill out the paperwork. All

1071
00:33:13,358 --> 00:33:14,926
of these surprise fees suddenly

1072
00:33:14,926 --> 00:33:16,961
kick it out of your budget. Our

1073
00:33:16,961 --> 00:33:18,463
members are feeling that same

1074
00:33:18,463 --> 00:33:20,431
squeeze right now. It is

1075
00:33:20,431 --> 00:33:21,699
incredibly hard to find that,

1076
00:33:21,699 --> 00:33:24,168
and it is incredibly challenging

1077
00:33:24,168 --> 00:33:25,470
to go through the entire

1078
00:33:25,470 --> 00:33:27,605
process, only to then be met

1079
00:33:27,605 --> 00:33:29,507
with that surprise at the end.

1080
00:33:29,507 --> 00:33:31,743
we are seeing folks all across

1081
00:33:31,743 --> 00:33:32,343
our community experience this

1082
00:33:32,343 --> 00:33:33,611
death by a thousand cuts, and

1083
00:33:33,611 --> 00:33:34,812
that's what these rental junk

1084
00:33:34,812 --> 00:33:35,913
fees feel like. You feel like

1085
00:33:35,913 --> 00:33:37,148
you finally found something that

1086
00:33:37,148 --> 00:33:38,783
is in your budget, only to then

1087
00:33:38,783 --> 00:33:40,485
have the rug pulled out from

1088
00:33:40,485 --> 00:33:41,919
you. And it's confusing at

1089
00:33:41,919 --> 00:33:42,920
best. And at worst case

1090
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,455
scenario, it's dishonest. Please

1091
00:33:44,455 --> 00:33:46,724
pass this legislation to ensure

1092
00:33:46,724 --> 00:33:48,793
transparency in renting.

1093
00:33:48,793 --> 00:33:50,895
-- thank you. Next we have poe,

1094
00:33:50,895 --> 00:33:54,232
followed by paul poe, paul

1095
00:33:54,232 --> 00:33:56,234
julian is poe polypi. Yeah. All

1096
00:33:56,234 --> 00:34:00,571
right. Welcome.

1097
00:34:00,571 --> 00:34:00,905
-- thank you.

1098
00:34:00,905 --> 00:34:02,840
-- hello, paul. Happy here with

1099
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:03,474
the washington housing alliance

1100
00:34:03,474 --> 00:34:04,776
in strong support of the

1101
00:34:04,776 --> 00:34:06,244
proposed ban on junk fees. Thank

1102
00:34:06,244 --> 00:34:08,012
you, councilmember foster, for

1103
00:34:08,012 --> 00:34:09,714
your leadership. And to all five

1104
00:34:09,714 --> 00:34:11,416
councilmembers on the committee

1105
00:34:11,416 --> 00:34:13,084
who voted yes, please vote yes

1106
00:34:13,084 --> 00:34:14,685
today and ensure that no

1107
00:34:14,685 --> 00:34:16,254
amendments are added that will

1108
00:34:16,254 --> 00:34:18,523
weaken protections, including

1109
00:34:18,523 --> 00:34:19,724
anything that allows pet rent or

1110
00:34:19,724 --> 00:34:21,859
requires tenants to opt out.

1111
00:34:21,859 --> 00:34:23,428
power dynamics are a significant

1112
00:34:23,428 --> 00:34:25,063
factor in opt out requirements

1113
00:34:25,063 --> 00:34:27,365
for tenants into very difficult

1114
00:34:27,365 --> 00:34:27,999
situations. No tenant should be

1115
00:34:27,999 --> 00:34:29,400
forced to pay these unfair,

1116
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,736
expensive and often deceptive

1117
00:34:31,736 --> 00:34:33,538
fees. Renters in seattle are

1118
00:34:33,538 --> 00:34:35,473
sharing that fees are oftentimes

1119
00:34:35,473 --> 00:34:37,442
added after move in at lease

1120
00:34:37,442 --> 00:34:39,077
renewal, trapping tenants who

1121
00:34:39,077 --> 00:34:40,511
can't afford to move and the

1122
00:34:40,511 --> 00:34:43,014
fees they are, the fees they are

1123
00:34:43,014 --> 00:34:43,614
being charged are ridiculous.

1124
00:34:43,614 --> 00:34:44,782
seattle renters are paying a fee

1125
00:34:44,782 --> 00:34:48,152
to pay rent fees to cover

1126
00:34:48,152 --> 00:34:48,786
utilities and management fees,

1127
00:34:48,786 --> 00:34:50,988
to submit maintenance requests,

1128
00:34:50,988 --> 00:34:52,390
fees that cover their

1129
00:34:52,390 --> 00:34:53,424
landlord's insurance and more.

1130
00:34:53,424 --> 00:34:54,892
but these are just a few

1131
00:34:54,892 --> 00:34:55,960
examples of unfair and costly

1132
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,261
fees that tenants are being

1133
00:34:57,261 --> 00:34:58,996
forced to pay. You have an

1134
00:34:58,996 --> 00:35:00,097
opportunity to stop this today.

1135
00:35:00,097 --> 00:35:02,967
please vote yes today and no on

1136
00:35:02,967 --> 00:35:04,302
any harmful amendments. Thank

1137
00:35:04,302 --> 00:35:04,502
you.

1138
00:35:04,502 --> 00:35:08,072
-- thank you. Next we have paul.

1139
00:35:08,072 --> 00:35:10,741
paul here. Julian, miss paul

1140
00:35:10,741 --> 00:35:14,378
here, paul okay. Welcome. Then

1141
00:35:14,378 --> 00:35:22,019
julian, then mante.

1142
00:35:22,019 --> 00:35:23,855
-- I'm paul thomas and I'm a

1143
00:35:23,855 --> 00:35:25,323
leader of the republican party

1144
00:35:25,323 --> 00:35:27,792
of king county. Earlier I came

1145
00:35:27,792 --> 00:35:28,593
here to speak about the

1146
00:35:28,593 --> 00:35:30,728
corruption and criminality of

1147
00:35:30,728 --> 00:35:33,364
the homeless industrial complex.

1148
00:35:33,364 --> 00:35:34,866
today I'm going to address

1149
00:35:34,866 --> 00:35:37,702
something deeper. Instead of

1150
00:35:37,702 --> 00:35:38,903
treating crime and drug

1151
00:35:38,903 --> 00:35:40,838
trafficking as matters of law

1152
00:35:40,838 --> 00:35:43,941
enforcement, we are treating

1153
00:35:43,941 --> 00:35:44,509
these as behavioral health

1154
00:35:44,509 --> 00:35:48,513
matters no belief could be more

1155
00:35:48,513 --> 00:35:50,381
damaging to our city and its

1156
00:35:50,381 --> 00:35:52,416
permissiveness to crime, but

1157
00:35:52,416 --> 00:35:53,918
also in its rejection of the

1158
00:35:53,918 --> 00:35:57,188
dignity of the criminal by

1159
00:35:57,188 --> 00:35:59,524
rejecting the principle of

1160
00:35:59,524 --> 00:36:02,894
personal agency and

1161
00:36:02,894 --> 00:36:05,830
responsibility. If this

1162
00:36:05,830 --> 00:36:07,665
continues and people continue to

1163
00:36:07,665 --> 00:36:10,801
think that that's how we solve

1164
00:36:10,801 --> 00:36:12,570
the problems, taxpayers who are

1165
00:36:12,570 --> 00:36:14,338
now leaving in trickles will

1166
00:36:14,338 --> 00:36:16,507
later be leaving in droves,

1167
00:36:16,507 --> 00:36:17,074
leaving behind poverty and

1168
00:36:17,074 --> 00:36:19,577
misery in our neighborhoods.

1169
00:36:19,577 --> 00:36:22,179
-- thank you paul. Next, we have

1170
00:36:22,179 --> 00:36:24,849
julian, followed by mandy

1171
00:36:24,849 --> 00:36:25,783
julian, followed by monte. And

1172
00:36:25,783 --> 00:36:27,018
this is just a just a reminder

1173
00:36:27,018 --> 00:36:28,386
when people are speaking, if we

1174
00:36:28,386 --> 00:36:30,154
could just be respectful, no

1175
00:36:30,154 --> 00:36:31,188
booing. I'm not going to let

1176
00:36:31,188 --> 00:36:32,723
them boo you either. So like,

1177
00:36:32,723 --> 00:36:34,091
let's just try to keep it cool.

1178
00:36:34,091 --> 00:36:36,060
all right. So next we have

1179
00:36:36,060 --> 00:36:37,361
julian.

1180
00:36:37,361 --> 00:36:37,762
-- I'm julian.

1181
00:36:37,762 --> 00:36:39,397
-- julian you're julian

1182
00:36:39,397 --> 00:36:39,697
blackthorn.

1183
00:36:39,697 --> 00:36:41,032
-- yeah. That's me. Hello.

1184
00:36:41,032 --> 00:36:42,967
-- hold on. Julian blackthorn

1185
00:36:42,967 --> 00:36:45,069
and then we have manty and then

1186
00:36:45,069 --> 00:36:50,608
el, aaron and josh. Julian.

1187
00:36:50,608 --> 00:36:51,275
-- hello. My partner and I moved

1188
00:36:51,275 --> 00:36:52,243
here in 2014. I am trans and

1189
00:36:52,243 --> 00:36:53,778
non-binary and I was raised

1190
00:36:53,778 --> 00:36:55,179
maga. We fled florida in the

1191
00:36:55,179 --> 00:36:56,881
middle of the night because we

1192
00:36:56,881 --> 00:36:58,015
weren't treated like humans.

1193
00:36:58,015 --> 00:36:58,883
I've been told my whole growing

1194
00:36:58,883 --> 00:36:59,951
up life that seattle was a

1195
00:36:59,951 --> 00:37:01,719
liberal paradise, and it sounded

1196
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:02,453
like paradise to me, a place

1197
00:37:02,453 --> 00:37:03,921
where queer and trans folks like

1198
00:37:03,921 --> 00:37:04,922
me and my partner could be

1199
00:37:04,922 --> 00:37:06,958
accepted and just live.

1200
00:37:06,958 --> 00:37:07,658
unfortunately, it's truly only

1201
00:37:07,658 --> 00:37:08,859
a haven for the richest white,

1202
00:37:08,859 --> 00:37:11,696
cisgender gays among us. Anyway,

1203
00:37:11,696 --> 00:37:12,463
our car alternator died and I

1204
00:37:12,463 --> 00:37:14,632
lost my job. We became houseless

1205
00:37:14,632 --> 00:37:15,766
the first time in my life, and

1206
00:37:15,766 --> 00:37:17,435
it was 18 months of hell. We got

1207
00:37:17,435 --> 00:37:18,769
a hand up from nickelsville and

1208
00:37:18,769 --> 00:37:19,971
lived in the same apartment now

1209
00:37:19,971 --> 00:37:21,172
for ten years. So why can't we

1210
00:37:21,172 --> 00:37:23,007
have trans refugee villages? Why

1211
00:37:23,007 --> 00:37:24,275
can't we use the millions of

1212
00:37:24,275 --> 00:37:25,710
dollars harold was spending on

1213
00:37:25,710 --> 00:37:27,011
sweeping our houseless neighbors

1214
00:37:27,011 --> 00:37:28,212
from street to street, when an

1215
00:37:28,212 --> 00:37:28,813
inordinate amount of them are

1216
00:37:28,813 --> 00:37:29,647
queer and trans, and especially

1217
00:37:29,647 --> 00:37:32,149
if they happen to also be black,

1218
00:37:32,149 --> 00:37:32,783
indigenous people of color. Why

1219
00:37:32,783 --> 00:37:33,884
can't we use some of the

1220
00:37:33,884 --> 00:37:35,419
millions going to the cops for

1221
00:37:35,419 --> 00:37:36,420
surveillance when it didn't

1222
00:37:36,420 --> 00:37:37,822
stop? Juniper blessings, public

1223
00:37:37,822 --> 00:37:38,356
murder, nor the shooting

1224
00:37:38,356 --> 00:37:39,457
murders? That bit of seattle.

1225
00:37:39,457 --> 00:37:40,625
this is one of the richest and

1226
00:37:40,625 --> 00:37:42,526
poorest cities in the world. We

1227
00:37:42,526 --> 00:37:43,995
need more than 300 for this

1228
00:37:43,995 --> 00:37:45,630
influx of refugees, transgender

1229
00:37:45,630 --> 00:37:46,897
and otherwise. And an office of

1230
00:37:46,897 --> 00:37:48,199
county affairs. Please. You'll

1231
00:37:48,199 --> 00:37:49,467
be invested in a poor queer and

1232
00:37:49,467 --> 00:37:50,501
trans folks. And we need that

1233
00:37:50,501 --> 00:37:51,135
right now. Thank you.

1234
00:37:51,135 --> 00:37:57,308
-- thank you, julian. And then l

1235
00:37:57,308 --> 00:37:59,143
welcome.

1236
00:37:59,143 --> 00:38:00,144
-- you may call me monty. I'm a

1237
00:38:00,144 --> 00:38:01,579
spiritual leader in the seattle

1238
00:38:01,579 --> 00:38:02,513
trans community. And I am here

1239
00:38:02,513 --> 00:38:04,482
to speak truth. Two weeks ago, I

1240
00:38:04,482 --> 00:38:06,117
said seattle was like the

1241
00:38:06,117 --> 00:38:06,751
innkeeper who promised my people

1242
00:38:06,751 --> 00:38:07,718
rooms. Yet when they arrived had

1243
00:38:07,718 --> 00:38:09,286
no rooms available. I asked you

1244
00:38:09,286 --> 00:38:11,389
for mercy. Now you have shown us

1245
00:38:11,389 --> 00:38:12,690
a small mercy. While a pile of

1246
00:38:12,690 --> 00:38:13,691
hay in the stable loft may not

1247
00:38:13,691 --> 00:38:15,393
be adequate accommodations, it

1248
00:38:15,393 --> 00:38:16,360
is, in fact, a room. And it is,

1249
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,730
in fact, at the end. For this I

1250
00:38:19,730 --> 00:38:20,898
express small gratitude with a

1251
00:38:20,898 --> 00:38:22,033
0.3 million equivalent to the

1252
00:38:22,033 --> 00:38:24,035
salary of about two and a half

1253
00:38:24,035 --> 00:38:25,336
junior police officers. Our

1254
00:38:25,336 --> 00:38:25,903
local mutual aid orgs could

1255
00:38:25,903 --> 00:38:27,271
house 16 trans people for a

1256
00:38:27,271 --> 00:38:28,906
year. To those who complain

1257
00:38:28,906 --> 00:38:30,675
about how even this is too much,

1258
00:38:30,675 --> 00:38:32,143
I ask you, why do you care about

1259
00:38:32,143 --> 00:38:33,811
so much about so little money?

1260
00:38:33,811 --> 00:38:35,379
the chief of police alone has 19

1261
00:38:35,379 --> 00:38:37,214
million budgeted. The spd

1262
00:38:37,214 --> 00:38:39,583
overall, 488 million. Think of

1263
00:38:39,583 --> 00:38:40,718
the 20,000 people that money

1264
00:38:40,718 --> 00:38:41,886
could be housing rather than

1265
00:38:41,886 --> 00:38:43,688
being used to ruin lives with

1266
00:38:43,688 --> 00:38:45,022
violence. Yet ruining lives is

1267
00:38:45,022 --> 00:38:46,057
what the critics are here to do.

1268
00:38:46,057 --> 00:38:47,625
they claim to be budget hawks,

1269
00:38:47,625 --> 00:38:48,993
but they are vultures who prey

1270
00:38:48,993 --> 00:38:51,429
upon me and my community for fun

1271
00:38:51,429 --> 00:38:52,463
and profit. I ask the city

1272
00:38:52,463 --> 00:38:53,698
council not to heed the words of

1273
00:38:53,698 --> 00:38:56,600
such godless people. Pray they

1274
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:57,201
someday find love and do not

1275
00:38:57,201 --> 00:38:59,070
make their shame your own by

1276
00:38:59,070 --> 00:38:59,704
countenancing their bloodlust.

1277
00:38:59,704 --> 00:39:00,671
and ari, please don't pull guns

1278
00:39:00,671 --> 00:39:02,673
on people in the park.

1279
00:39:02,673 --> 00:39:05,743
-- so next we have el. Thank you

1280
00:39:05,743 --> 00:39:06,577
mantai. Now we have el followed

1281
00:39:06,577 --> 00:39:09,413
by aaron and then josh. Welcome.

1282
00:39:09,413 --> 00:39:12,083
-- hi. Thank you. I am from

1283
00:39:12,083 --> 00:39:15,019
stone soup crew and I am a

1284
00:39:15,019 --> 00:39:16,187
transgender refugee. And I'm

1285
00:39:16,187 --> 00:39:16,854
here and I'm here to say thank

1286
00:39:16,854 --> 00:39:18,556
you to all everybody that's on

1287
00:39:18,556 --> 00:39:20,991
this panel. And as a member of

1288
00:39:20,991 --> 00:39:21,792
this district, you're going to

1289
00:39:21,792 --> 00:39:23,094
vote today on something that's

1290
00:39:23,094 --> 00:39:24,795
very near and dear to my heart.

1291
00:39:24,795 --> 00:39:26,864
we are a community based

1292
00:39:26,864 --> 00:39:29,100
organization in stone soup crew.

1293
00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:29,900
every wednesday, we're out there

1294
00:39:29,900 --> 00:39:31,268
meeting and greeting and feeding

1295
00:39:31,268 --> 00:39:33,070
many of the refugees that are

1296
00:39:33,070 --> 00:39:35,673
coming here. Don't tell me that

1297
00:39:35,673 --> 00:39:36,540
we're not putting ourselves on

1298
00:39:36,540 --> 00:39:37,942
the line, and we deserve our

1299
00:39:37,942 --> 00:39:39,143
recognition. And as such, we've

1300
00:39:39,143 --> 00:39:41,212
invited you all to our

1301
00:39:41,212 --> 00:39:43,180
anniversary dinner that is going

1302
00:39:43,180 --> 00:39:43,714
to be held on the 26th of

1303
00:39:43,714 --> 00:39:44,482
september. And I put that in

1304
00:39:44,482 --> 00:39:47,051
your your basket. And I just

1305
00:39:47,051 --> 00:39:49,019
wanted to show something real

1306
00:39:49,019 --> 00:39:50,254
quick. This is the stone

1307
00:39:50,254 --> 00:39:51,989
donation that I received on

1308
00:39:51,989 --> 00:39:53,424
wednesday that was whizzed by my

1309
00:39:53,424 --> 00:39:55,459
head on 12th and howl while I

1310
00:39:55,459 --> 00:39:59,764
tried to help a unhoused

1311
00:39:59,764 --> 00:40:00,398
transgender person. And this is

1312
00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:03,300
the reality that we face. We

1313
00:40:03,300 --> 00:40:04,368
deserve our place in the sun

1314
00:40:04,368 --> 00:40:05,603
too. Thank you for letting me be

1315
00:40:05,603 --> 00:40:08,205
among these transgender giants

1316
00:40:08,205 --> 00:40:09,306
that are sitting here behind me,

1317
00:40:09,306 --> 00:40:10,708
and that will lead this world

1318
00:40:10,708 --> 00:40:13,244
someday. Thank you very much.

1319
00:40:13,244 --> 00:40:16,414
-- thank you. Next.

1320
00:40:16,414 --> 00:40:22,820
-- [applause]

1321
00:40:22,820 --> 00:40:23,087
-- josh.

1322
00:40:23,087 --> 00:40:28,359
-- hi. Hard to follow that. My

1323
00:40:28,359 --> 00:40:28,993
name is josh freese. I'm the

1324
00:40:28,993 --> 00:40:29,627
treasurer of seattle's lgbtq

1325
00:40:29,627 --> 00:40:30,394
center. And kawaguchi o'connor

1326
00:40:30,394 --> 00:40:31,295
initiative at trans faculty

1327
00:40:31,295 --> 00:40:33,297
network. My opinions are my own.

1328
00:40:33,297 --> 00:40:34,465
you're going to hear you've

1329
00:40:34,465 --> 00:40:37,835
already heard some of the the

1330
00:40:37,835 --> 00:40:39,637
the experiences, the lived

1331
00:40:39,637 --> 00:40:40,271
experiences of trans folks here.

1332
00:40:40,271 --> 00:40:41,071
you're going to hear so much

1333
00:40:41,071 --> 00:40:42,740
more after me. What I'm going

1334
00:40:42,740 --> 00:40:44,041
to tell you right now is the

1335
00:40:44,041 --> 00:40:45,342
financial and logistical part.

1336
00:40:45,342 --> 00:40:48,412
we are ready for this money that

1337
00:40:48,412 --> 00:40:49,980
you appropriated last week. We

1338
00:40:49,980 --> 00:40:51,515
have budgetary controls, we have

1339
00:40:51,515 --> 00:40:53,184
spending controls. We ready to

1340
00:40:53,184 --> 00:40:54,585
deal with hsd grants. So for all

1341
00:40:54,585 --> 00:40:56,253
those that are behind me that

1342
00:40:56,253 --> 00:40:57,454
say that we don't know how to

1343
00:40:57,454 --> 00:40:58,355
spend this money, that we don't

1344
00:40:58,355 --> 00:41:00,324
know what to do with it, I say

1345
00:41:00,324 --> 00:41:02,693
we're going to show you so much

1346
00:41:02,693 --> 00:41:04,395
joy and, and community care than

1347
00:41:04,395 --> 00:41:05,129
you'll ever see. And if you

1348
00:41:05,129 --> 00:41:06,430
have a question about a budget,

1349
00:41:06,430 --> 00:41:08,399
ask me, I can tell you how to

1350
00:41:08,399 --> 00:41:10,167
balance a balance sheet. Thank

1351
00:41:10,167 --> 00:41:10,367
you.

1352
00:41:10,367 --> 00:41:11,335
-- thank you.

1353
00:41:11,335 --> 00:41:12,269
-- [applause]

1354
00:41:12,269 --> 00:41:12,536
-- josh.

1355
00:41:12,536 --> 00:41:12,870
-- [applause]

1356
00:41:12,870 --> 00:41:14,839
-- next, we have. Are you are

1357
00:41:14,839 --> 00:41:16,807
you, are you aaron. Okay,

1358
00:41:16,807 --> 00:41:17,975
awesome. All right. Aaron,

1359
00:41:17,975 --> 00:41:19,210
welcome. Before you go, let me

1360
00:41:19,210 --> 00:41:22,346
tell the next ten people. So

1361
00:41:22,346 --> 00:41:25,049
we'll have jillian, ruth,

1362
00:41:25,049 --> 00:41:28,285
craig, we have miss torres. I

1363
00:41:28,285 --> 00:41:29,653
can't read your first name. I

1364
00:41:29,653 --> 00:41:31,755
apologize, miss torres. We have

1365
00:41:31,755 --> 00:41:33,924
michael. Danica, victoria,

1366
00:41:33,924 --> 00:41:35,659
rachel, alexia and caroline. You

1367
00:41:35,659 --> 00:41:38,662
all are up next. Okay. Welcome.

1368
00:41:38,662 --> 00:41:40,397
all right.

1369
00:41:40,397 --> 00:41:41,165
-- my name is aaron. I'm here to

1370
00:41:41,165 --> 00:41:42,466
talk about the amendment,

1371
00:41:42,466 --> 00:41:44,902
allocating funds to provide

1372
00:41:44,902 --> 00:41:46,570
resources to trans community. I

1373
00:41:46,570 --> 00:41:49,106
am a trans person who relocated

1374
00:41:49,106 --> 00:41:50,441
here from the dakotas to find

1375
00:41:50,441 --> 00:41:52,176
community and a better life for

1376
00:41:52,176 --> 00:41:53,744
myself. I'm not going to lie.

1377
00:41:53,744 --> 00:41:55,379
this search for a better

1378
00:41:55,379 --> 00:41:56,614
existence has partially eluded

1379
00:41:56,614 --> 00:41:58,382
me since losing my corporate

1380
00:41:58,382 --> 00:42:00,584
job. It's hard enough to find

1381
00:42:00,584 --> 00:42:01,352
consistent work as a trans

1382
00:42:01,352 --> 00:42:02,953
person, especially when there is

1383
00:42:02,953 --> 00:42:03,821
more variety in a chip aisle

1384
00:42:03,821 --> 00:42:07,491
than the city's job market. I

1385
00:42:07,491 --> 00:42:09,660
did, however, find community and

1386
00:42:09,660 --> 00:42:10,261
I would not be standing here

1387
00:42:10,261 --> 00:42:13,130
today if it wasn't for this. I

1388
00:42:13,130 --> 00:42:15,032
have met people who are willing

1389
00:42:15,032 --> 00:42:16,233
to donate out of pocket what

1390
00:42:16,233 --> 00:42:17,835
little money they had to help

1391
00:42:17,835 --> 00:42:18,936
trans people with rental

1392
00:42:18,936 --> 00:42:21,472
assistance, food, medical costs

1393
00:42:21,472 --> 00:42:22,306
and other basic needs. Which

1394
00:42:22,306 --> 00:42:24,608
leads to the question what

1395
00:42:24,608 --> 00:42:26,877
message does it send that those

1396
00:42:26,877 --> 00:42:28,212
with barely ascent to their name

1397
00:42:28,212 --> 00:42:29,813
are doing more to help the trans

1398
00:42:29,813 --> 00:42:32,182
community than our own

1399
00:42:32,182 --> 00:42:32,783
government? You can claim to

1400
00:42:32,783 --> 00:42:34,518
care for and protect trans

1401
00:42:34,518 --> 00:42:35,853
people, but actions speak louder

1402
00:42:35,853 --> 00:42:36,720
than words. I plead with the

1403
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:39,490
city council to find in their

1404
00:42:39,490 --> 00:42:41,025
hearts to vote yes on that

1405
00:42:41,025 --> 00:42:41,325
amendment.

1406
00:42:41,325 --> 00:42:45,429
-- thank you aaron. Next we have

1407
00:42:45,429 --> 00:42:49,233
jillian, followed by ruth craig.

1408
00:42:49,233 --> 00:42:49,500
welcome.

1409
00:42:49,500 --> 00:42:51,936
-- council members. My name is

1410
00:42:51,936 --> 00:42:55,039
jillian england. Seattle face is

1411
00:42:55,039 --> 00:42:55,639
shrinking business activity,

1412
00:42:55,639 --> 00:42:58,208
high office vacancies and rising

1413
00:42:58,208 --> 00:42:58,842
property taxes. The commercial

1414
00:42:58,842 --> 00:43:02,112
tax base is under pressure, yet

1415
00:43:02,112 --> 00:43:05,149
we're being asked to expand

1416
00:43:05,149 --> 00:43:05,683
spending on discretionary

1417
00:43:05,683 --> 00:43:07,151
programs for a narrow category

1418
00:43:07,151 --> 00:43:09,853
of newcomers. While the city's

1419
00:43:09,853 --> 00:43:12,156
more core services and fiscal

1420
00:43:12,156 --> 00:43:14,525
foundation remain strained.

1421
00:43:14,525 --> 00:43:17,995
every new obligation competes

1422
00:43:17,995 --> 00:43:18,429
with public safety,

1423
00:43:18,429 --> 00:43:19,196
infrastructure and the basic

1424
00:43:19,196 --> 00:43:20,831
conditions that keep employers

1425
00:43:20,831 --> 00:43:23,434
and residents here. Compassion

1426
00:43:23,434 --> 00:43:25,436
that ignores the budget is not

1427
00:43:25,436 --> 00:43:27,171
compassion. It is deferred.

1428
00:43:27,171 --> 00:43:29,073
costs shifted to the people

1429
00:43:29,073 --> 00:43:31,809
already paying higher taxes.

1430
00:43:31,809 --> 00:43:35,279
stabilize the tax base first,

1431
00:43:35,279 --> 00:43:35,813
then consider expansions.

1432
00:43:35,813 --> 00:43:36,814
please. My name is jillian

1433
00:43:36,814 --> 00:43:38,248
england. Thank you.

1434
00:43:38,248 --> 00:43:39,516
-- thank you jillian. Next we

1435
00:43:39,516 --> 00:43:41,218
have ruth, followed by craig.

1436
00:43:41,218 --> 00:43:42,486
miss

1437
00:43:42,486 --> 00:43:42,987
-- to.

1438
00:43:42,987 --> 00:43:44,088
-- the signs be lowered while

1439
00:43:44,088 --> 00:43:45,689
I'm talking.

1440
00:43:45,689 --> 00:43:47,191
-- they have the freedom to do

1441
00:43:47,191 --> 00:43:48,125
that to lift those up. Yeah.

1442
00:43:48,125 --> 00:43:49,059
-- it doesn't seem right

1443
00:43:49,059 --> 00:43:50,227
because then they're taking

1444
00:43:50,227 --> 00:43:51,628
away from my voice.

1445
00:43:51,628 --> 00:43:52,796
-- they can't block the person

1446
00:43:52,796 --> 00:43:54,698
behind them, but they are

1447
00:43:54,698 --> 00:43:55,966
allowed to hold the signs. Okay.

1448
00:43:55,966 --> 00:43:56,567
thank you. Ruth.

1449
00:43:56,567 --> 00:43:58,002
-- yeah. My name is ruth baraga.

1450
00:43:58,002 --> 00:43:59,303
I live in seattle. I reference

1451
00:43:59,303 --> 00:44:01,639
the song I t by christine and

1452
00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:04,208
the queens on the album chaleur

1453
00:44:04,208 --> 00:44:05,442
humaine to my comments on august

1454
00:44:05,442 --> 00:44:10,280
4th, this council voted on

1455
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,017
amendment 5cb121253 amending

1456
00:44:13,017 --> 00:44:16,120
ordinance 127362. This proposal

1457
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:16,687
is about sex and that word

1458
00:44:16,687 --> 00:44:17,821
describes both a body type and

1459
00:44:17,821 --> 00:44:20,224
an activity. This proposal

1460
00:44:20,224 --> 00:44:21,659
adopts the current definition

1461
00:44:21,659 --> 00:44:23,394
this week of lgbtq, which

1462
00:44:23,394 --> 00:44:25,462
includes something different, an

1463
00:44:25,462 --> 00:44:27,631
identity, not an identity that

1464
00:44:27,631 --> 00:44:29,800
can be proven through court or

1465
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,135
hospital records. Simply the

1466
00:44:31,135 --> 00:44:33,203
identity and an individual has

1467
00:44:33,203 --> 00:44:34,938
chosen for the day the

1468
00:44:34,938 --> 00:44:36,974
equivalent of about 60 single

1469
00:44:36,974 --> 00:44:39,009
family homes would donate their

1470
00:44:39,009 --> 00:44:40,544
entire hard fought property tax

1471
00:44:40,544 --> 00:44:42,479
to fund a slush fund for people

1472
00:44:42,479 --> 00:44:44,248
for people who can't even prove

1473
00:44:44,248 --> 00:44:46,517
what they are, what they claim

1474
00:44:46,517 --> 00:44:46,750
to be.

1475
00:44:46,750 --> 00:44:48,986
-- who pot, pot, pies, pot.

1476
00:44:48,986 --> 00:44:51,188
pause, pause your time. Hold on.

1477
00:44:51,188 --> 00:44:52,222
pause time. We'll put 15

1478
00:44:52,222 --> 00:44:53,557
seconds back so she can finish.

1479
00:44:53,557 --> 00:44:54,625
I'm just going to ask really

1480
00:44:54,625 --> 00:44:56,026
nicely. That would be respectful

1481
00:44:56,026 --> 00:44:57,294
to everyone. I will not let them

1482
00:44:57,294 --> 00:44:59,596
boo you every. I will not let

1483
00:44:59,596 --> 00:45:00,964
anyone get booed no matter what

1484
00:45:00,964 --> 00:45:02,466
their comments, how we disagree,

1485
00:45:02,466 --> 00:45:03,133
agree, whatever it is, we just

1486
00:45:03,133 --> 00:45:06,870
got to be respectful. I, I, I

1487
00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:08,572
hear you, I hear you, but I'm

1488
00:45:08,572 --> 00:45:09,573
going to protect your right to

1489
00:45:09,573 --> 00:45:11,375
speak as well. And I got you. I

1490
00:45:11,375 --> 00:45:14,178
hear you all 15 seconds. 15

1491
00:45:14,178 --> 00:45:15,813
seconds. You already talked just

1492
00:45:15,813 --> 00:45:17,281
15 seconds replaced.

1493
00:45:17,281 --> 00:45:18,382
-- I'm being respectful to

1494
00:45:18,382 --> 00:45:18,649
everyone.

1495
00:45:18,649 --> 00:45:20,918
-- no, just give me one second.

1496
00:45:20,918 --> 00:45:22,953
one second. Let let us hold on

1497
00:45:22,953 --> 00:45:23,687
one second. We'll start your

1498
00:45:23,687 --> 00:45:25,389
time, and then you'll be able to

1499
00:45:25,389 --> 00:45:25,656
continue.

1500
00:45:25,656 --> 00:45:25,923
-- okay.

1501
00:45:25,923 --> 00:45:28,759
-- thank you. Yeah. You're

1502
00:45:28,759 --> 00:45:29,026
welcome.

1503
00:45:29,026 --> 00:45:31,595
-- so I said, for a slush fund

1504
00:45:31,595 --> 00:45:32,262
for people who can't even prove

1505
00:45:32,262 --> 00:45:33,530
that they are what they claim to

1506
00:45:33,530 --> 00:45:37,334
be, this city already sets aside

1507
00:45:37,334 --> 00:45:37,935
millions for the homeless and

1508
00:45:37,935 --> 00:45:39,069
more millions for immigrants.

1509
00:45:39,069 --> 00:45:41,972
yet this subgroup of people come

1510
00:45:41,972 --> 00:45:43,607
asking for a special handout.

1511
00:45:43,607 --> 00:45:44,541
they want this money without any

1512
00:45:44,541 --> 00:45:45,909
strings and with their own

1513
00:45:45,909 --> 00:45:46,210
definition.

1514
00:45:46,210 --> 00:45:47,511
-- thank you ruth. You can give

1515
00:45:47,511 --> 00:45:48,979
your you can put your comments

1516
00:45:48,979 --> 00:45:50,447
in the basket as well. You're

1517
00:45:50,447 --> 00:45:51,582
good. No worries. Thank you

1518
00:45:51,582 --> 00:45:53,684
ruth. Okay, now we have craig

1519
00:45:53,684 --> 00:45:55,486
followed by miss torres.

1520
00:45:55,486 --> 00:45:58,455
welcome, craig.

1521
00:45:58,455 --> 00:46:00,090
-- thank you, president

1522
00:46:00,090 --> 00:46:01,658
hollingsworth. My name is craig

1523
00:46:01,658 --> 00:46:04,862
thompson. I'm a long time

1524
00:46:04,862 --> 00:46:07,064
advocate and activist on

1525
00:46:07,064 --> 00:46:09,666
northwest beacon hill. I am also

1526
00:46:09,666 --> 00:46:13,370
called the jungle guy there.

1527
00:46:13,370 --> 00:46:14,505
how's that? Thank you. You're

1528
00:46:14,505 --> 00:46:16,874
welcome. Okay, so I'm here today

1529
00:46:16,874 --> 00:46:20,144
to support councilmember lynn's

1530
00:46:20,144 --> 00:46:22,446
amendment to council bill

1531
00:46:22,446 --> 00:46:25,883
121253. This would create two

1532
00:46:25,883 --> 00:46:29,019
positions that would help

1533
00:46:29,019 --> 00:46:31,455
coordinate the outreach and

1534
00:46:31,455 --> 00:46:34,091
other efforts that are taking

1535
00:46:34,091 --> 00:46:35,526
place today in little saigon.

1536
00:46:35,526 --> 00:46:37,694
north rainier the north rainier

1537
00:46:37,694 --> 00:46:40,764
valley, and also northwest

1538
00:46:40,764 --> 00:46:43,600
beacon hill. These positions

1539
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:48,038
will help make a whole program

1540
00:46:48,038 --> 00:46:51,642
possible so that there will be a

1541
00:46:51,642 --> 00:46:54,011
public safety component taking

1542
00:46:54,011 --> 00:46:55,546
place in our neighborhood, and

1543
00:46:55,546 --> 00:46:57,648
there will be real outreach. So

1544
00:46:57,648 --> 00:46:58,949
I hope that all of you will

1545
00:46:58,949 --> 00:47:00,751
support council lind's

1546
00:47:00,751 --> 00:47:01,785
amendment. Thank you.

1547
00:47:01,785 --> 00:47:06,256
-- thank you craig. Next, we

1548
00:47:06,256 --> 00:47:11,929
have miss torres. I miss.

1549
00:47:11,929 --> 00:47:12,296
-- your great.

1550
00:47:12,296 --> 00:47:12,896
-- no worries.

1551
00:47:12,896 --> 00:47:14,164
-- that's my mouthful.

1552
00:47:14,164 --> 00:47:14,531
-- yeah, yeah.

1553
00:47:14,531 --> 00:47:17,100
-- hi, everyone. My name is

1554
00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:17,634
amarantha torres from the

1555
00:47:17,634 --> 00:47:18,268
coalition ending gender based

1556
00:47:18,268 --> 00:47:21,038
violence. We support the ban on

1557
00:47:21,038 --> 00:47:22,039
hidden fees and amendments a and

1558
00:47:22,039 --> 00:47:24,575
e, as well as the amendment

1559
00:47:24,575 --> 00:47:25,842
supporting the trans community.

1560
00:47:25,842 --> 00:47:26,877
I'll be reading remarks from

1561
00:47:26,877 --> 00:47:28,846
tosh hansen, who couldn't be

1562
00:47:28,846 --> 00:47:30,547
here today. They support deaf

1563
00:47:30,547 --> 00:47:32,249
and deaf blind survivors at

1564
00:47:32,249 --> 00:47:34,251
member program. Abused deaf

1565
00:47:34,251 --> 00:47:34,918
women's advocacy services in d

1566
00:47:34,918 --> 00:47:37,421
five. Tosh says survivors

1567
00:47:37,421 --> 00:47:38,488
experienced trauma from the

1568
00:47:38,488 --> 00:47:39,790
abuse they go through, including

1569
00:47:39,790 --> 00:47:41,458
financial abuse. People who

1570
00:47:41,458 --> 00:47:43,160
cause harm will often use

1571
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,194
finances to control survivors

1572
00:47:44,194 --> 00:47:46,096
and force them to stay in

1573
00:47:46,096 --> 00:47:46,964
abusive relationships. This

1574
00:47:46,964 --> 00:47:47,564
could look like ruining their

1575
00:47:47,564 --> 00:47:50,167
credit, sabotaging their job or

1576
00:47:50,167 --> 00:47:51,835
for deaf survivors taking their

1577
00:47:51,835 --> 00:47:54,004
monthly social security checks.

1578
00:47:54,004 --> 00:47:55,439
sometimes abusers take over

1579
00:47:55,439 --> 00:47:56,406
survivors finances so they never

1580
00:47:56,406 --> 00:47:58,742
learn how to budget or manage

1581
00:47:58,742 --> 00:47:59,910
money sufficiently. The result

1582
00:47:59,910 --> 00:48:01,778
is often poor credit,

1583
00:48:01,778 --> 00:48:02,713
homelessness and poverty. Most

1584
00:48:02,713 --> 00:48:04,248
survivors subsequently struggle

1585
00:48:04,248 --> 00:48:05,682
to find stable housing after

1586
00:48:05,682 --> 00:48:07,084
fleeing abuse. Add the

1587
00:48:07,084 --> 00:48:08,185
exorbitant housing costs in

1588
00:48:08,185 --> 00:48:09,253
seattle, and the situation is

1589
00:48:09,253 --> 00:48:10,721
often impossible. Oh my gosh,

1590
00:48:10,721 --> 00:48:12,222
survivors deserve a transparent

1591
00:48:12,222 --> 00:48:13,557
move in process where all fees

1592
00:48:13,557 --> 00:48:14,791
are stated clearly. Join our

1593
00:48:14,791 --> 00:48:15,626
work to end gender based

1594
00:48:15,626 --> 00:48:18,662
violence by leading by example.

1595
00:48:18,662 --> 00:48:20,097
do not continue practices that

1596
00:48:20,097 --> 00:48:21,999
mirror financial abuse such.

1597
00:48:21,999 --> 00:48:23,567
-- thank. Thank you. Thank you

1598
00:48:23,567 --> 00:48:25,602
so much. Next we have michael is

1599
00:48:25,602 --> 00:48:27,738
michael would. Is michael is

1600
00:48:27,738 --> 00:48:29,840
michael woodward here? Michael

1601
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,042
michael woodward. No. Okay. Dan.

1602
00:48:32,042 --> 00:48:33,377
oh my bad. I'm sorry michael I

1603
00:48:33,377 --> 00:48:35,445
missed you.

1604
00:48:35,445 --> 00:48:35,712
-- sorry.

1605
00:48:35,712 --> 00:48:37,581
-- hello again councilmembers

1606
00:48:37,581 --> 00:48:38,215
michael woodward from traction.

1607
00:48:38,215 --> 00:48:38,849
I've been living in the world

1608
00:48:38,849 --> 00:48:41,652
as a trans man since the 1990s.

1609
00:48:41,652 --> 00:48:43,086
I'm here to urge you to vote

1610
00:48:43,086 --> 00:48:46,423
yes on cb 121252, as amended

1611
00:48:46,423 --> 00:48:48,158
last week, trans displacement is

1612
00:48:48,158 --> 00:48:49,927
a civic emergency. You've

1613
00:48:49,927 --> 00:48:51,895
already heard the numbers. More

1614
00:48:51,895 --> 00:48:52,462
than 50,000 displaced trans

1615
00:48:52,462 --> 00:48:53,697
people are already here or on

1616
00:48:53,697 --> 00:48:56,366
their way. The need is only

1617
00:48:56,366 --> 00:48:57,534
growing. In the three years

1618
00:48:57,534 --> 00:48:59,002
since we started this work,

1619
00:48:59,002 --> 00:49:00,804
we've received one $10,000

1620
00:49:00,804 --> 00:49:02,139
foundation grant for all this

1621
00:49:02,139 --> 00:49:04,374
work. Just one. I'm still

1622
00:49:04,374 --> 00:49:06,176
standing here as traction sole

1623
00:49:06,176 --> 00:49:08,345
paid staff member only because

1624
00:49:08,345 --> 00:49:08,945
some individual donors came

1625
00:49:08,945 --> 00:49:10,881
through. Just as our account

1626
00:49:10,881 --> 00:49:12,049
balances were sliding from black

1627
00:49:12,049 --> 00:49:15,519
to red. We all know 30 $300,000

1628
00:49:15,519 --> 00:49:17,220
is not enough. But I want to

1629
00:49:17,220 --> 00:49:19,423
come back here and thank you. I

1630
00:49:19,423 --> 00:49:21,058
want the city to be the first to

1631
00:49:21,058 --> 00:49:22,693
say trans people who flee here

1632
00:49:22,693 --> 00:49:25,329
deserve help. Sharon mcmahon

1633
00:49:25,329 --> 00:49:28,699
wrote the arc of the moral

1634
00:49:28,699 --> 00:49:29,399
universe doesn't doesn't bend

1635
00:49:29,399 --> 00:49:31,635
itself. Someone has to pull it.

1636
00:49:31,635 --> 00:49:34,905
that can be you vote yes. Let us

1637
00:49:34,905 --> 00:49:35,839
thank you. Then let us get back

1638
00:49:35,839 --> 00:49:40,877
to work. Thank you.

1639
00:49:40,877 --> 00:49:41,511
-- thank you michael. Next we

1640
00:49:41,511 --> 00:49:41,878
have danica is

1641
00:49:41,878 --> 00:49:42,212
-- [applause]

1642
00:49:42,212 --> 00:49:45,449
-- danica. I got you danica.

1643
00:49:45,449 --> 00:49:47,284
next by victoria. Rachel, alexia

1644
00:49:47,284 --> 00:49:48,785
and caroline. Danica. Victoria.

1645
00:49:48,785 --> 00:49:51,888
rachel. Alexia. Caroline.

1646
00:49:51,888 --> 00:49:52,155
welcome.

1647
00:49:52,155 --> 00:49:54,925
-- hello, my name is danica

1648
00:49:54,925 --> 00:49:56,059
noble. I spent 20 years with the

1649
00:49:56,059 --> 00:49:57,094
federal trade commission and the

1650
00:49:57,094 --> 00:49:58,128
last ten years as the chair of

1651
00:49:58,128 --> 00:50:00,497
our state bar association's

1652
00:50:00,497 --> 00:50:01,131
antitrust, consumer protection

1653
00:50:01,131 --> 00:50:02,432
and unfair business practices

1654
00:50:02,432 --> 00:50:04,935
section. I am in favor of the

1655
00:50:04,935 --> 00:50:06,937
junk fee ban, and it's more than

1656
00:50:06,937 --> 00:50:10,374
a question of just an extra fee.

1657
00:50:10,374 --> 00:50:12,542
it's more than the invisible

1658
00:50:12,542 --> 00:50:13,143
tax raising prices across the

1659
00:50:13,143 --> 00:50:15,345
economy. It's more than all the

1660
00:50:15,345 --> 00:50:16,780
convenience fees that we've all

1661
00:50:16,780 --> 00:50:18,682
paid and have never found

1662
00:50:18,682 --> 00:50:19,649
convenient. It asks a question

1663
00:50:19,649 --> 00:50:22,819
about whether our markets can be

1664
00:50:22,819 --> 00:50:24,321
fair in an increasingly digital

1665
00:50:24,321 --> 00:50:26,656
world. And it's something that

1666
00:50:26,656 --> 00:50:29,493
we absolutely need. The digital

1667
00:50:29,493 --> 00:50:31,261
markets promise transparency for

1668
00:50:31,261 --> 00:50:32,963
consumers. Junk fees hide those

1669
00:50:32,963 --> 00:50:35,098
and prevent that. Chaircom at

1670
00:50:35,098 --> 00:50:39,803
the federal trade commission

1671
00:50:39,803 --> 00:50:41,405
assumed 54,000,000 hours would

1672
00:50:41,405 --> 00:50:42,005
be saved by a nationwide junk

1673
00:50:42,005 --> 00:50:45,008
fee ban. The other problem is it

1674
00:50:45,008 --> 00:50:47,277
incentivizes dishonest business

1675
00:50:47,277 --> 00:50:48,278
practices and punishes those

1676
00:50:48,278 --> 00:50:49,513
that would make those

1677
00:50:49,513 --> 00:50:50,313
transparent. So if a consumer

1678
00:50:50,313 --> 00:50:51,181
should pay it, they should see

1679
00:50:51,181 --> 00:50:53,383
it before they decide to buy.

1680
00:50:53,383 --> 00:50:56,086
that's how we make this not

1681
00:50:56,086 --> 00:50:56,386
deceptive.

1682
00:50:56,386 --> 00:50:57,220
-- thank you danica. Next we

1683
00:50:57,220 --> 00:50:59,756
have victoria, followed by

1684
00:50:59,756 --> 00:51:03,760
rachel. Alexia. Caroline,

1685
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:04,027
welcome.

1686
00:51:04,027 --> 00:51:05,695
-- hello, council. My name is

1687
00:51:05,695 --> 00:51:08,065
victoria palmer and I am a

1688
00:51:08,065 --> 00:51:09,566
district six resident and

1689
00:51:09,566 --> 00:51:10,167
executive board member of the

1690
00:51:10,167 --> 00:51:11,435
king county republican party.

1691
00:51:11,435 --> 00:51:13,570
I'm here today to speak against

1692
00:51:13,570 --> 00:51:15,572
funding for the trans and queer

1693
00:51:15,572 --> 00:51:18,241
community, like the $300,000

1694
00:51:18,241 --> 00:51:21,411
proposed in today's budget

1695
00:51:21,411 --> 00:51:24,247
amendment bill. Cb 121253. Mayor

1696
00:51:24,247 --> 00:51:24,881
wilson's office rejected the

1697
00:51:24,881 --> 00:51:26,149
request for an emergency.

1698
00:51:26,149 --> 00:51:28,118
there's no reason to spend

1699
00:51:28,118 --> 00:51:28,885
money. Public money to pay

1700
00:51:28,885 --> 00:51:30,720
expenses for what is simply

1701
00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:32,956
adults moving to seattle. The

1702
00:51:32,956 --> 00:51:34,524
videos I've posted on this

1703
00:51:34,524 --> 00:51:36,326
topic have drawn much public

1704
00:51:36,326 --> 00:51:38,728
attention and outrage, with over

1705
00:51:38,728 --> 00:51:43,066
330 views, 330,000 views on all

1706
00:51:43,066 --> 00:51:44,601
platforms. It's time to put an

1707
00:51:44,601 --> 00:51:47,237
end to our reputation for being

1708
00:51:47,237 --> 00:51:49,606
free at all, and return to

1709
00:51:49,606 --> 00:51:52,108
funding projects that build our

1710
00:51:52,108 --> 00:51:53,210
cities and our city, and benefit

1711
00:51:53,210 --> 00:51:57,147
all gauging by primary election

1712
00:51:57,147 --> 00:51:59,316
results. And danny west needs

1713
00:51:59,316 --> 00:52:01,885
analysis in the times. This

1714
00:52:01,885 --> 00:52:03,420
whole socialist movement thing

1715
00:52:03,420 --> 00:52:05,155
actually isn't catching on

1716
00:52:05,155 --> 00:52:07,123
here. And while we republicans

1717
00:52:07,123 --> 00:52:08,658
don't get much respect in

1718
00:52:08,658 --> 00:52:08,925
seattle.

1719
00:52:08,925 --> 00:52:10,694
-- thank you victoria. Victoria.

1720
00:52:10,694 --> 00:52:13,864
thank you. Thank you so much,

1721
00:52:13,864 --> 00:52:16,066
rachel. I, I can I can control

1722
00:52:16,066 --> 00:52:16,733
the meeting. Okay. You guys are

1723
00:52:16,733 --> 00:52:19,102
all good. Okay. We have rachel

1724
00:52:19,102 --> 00:52:20,470
followed by alexia and then

1725
00:52:20,470 --> 00:52:21,738
caroline. And then after that,

1726
00:52:21,738 --> 00:52:23,707
we'll go to the next ten people

1727
00:52:23,707 --> 00:52:25,108
and then we're going to go to

1728
00:52:25,108 --> 00:52:26,443
online. So that's 30 in person.

1729
00:52:26,443 --> 00:52:27,477
and we'll go online and we'll

1730
00:52:27,477 --> 00:52:29,980
come back. Rachel snell welcome.

1731
00:52:29,980 --> 00:52:31,781
-- thank you council president

1732
00:52:31,781 --> 00:52:32,482
joy hollingsworth and.

1733
00:52:32,482 --> 00:52:33,984
-- members of the city council.

1734
00:52:33,984 --> 00:52:35,018
my name is rachel snell, and I

1735
00:52:35,018 --> 00:52:37,053
am here to advocate for banning

1736
00:52:37,053 --> 00:52:41,791
a junk fees in a time where

1737
00:52:41,791 --> 00:52:42,425
rents already are unbelievably

1738
00:52:42,425 --> 00:52:43,994
expensive. No one should have to

1739
00:52:43,994 --> 00:52:46,496
choose between medical bills,

1740
00:52:46,496 --> 00:52:50,400
groceries, or rent, let alone

1741
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:51,334
adding junk fees on top of it

1742
00:52:51,334 --> 00:52:53,236
all. I mean, are you kidding?

1743
00:52:53,236 --> 00:52:55,238
anyway, this piece of

1744
00:52:55,238 --> 00:52:56,339
legislation will provide much

1745
00:52:56,339 --> 00:52:57,607
needed relief to renters like

1746
00:52:57,607 --> 00:52:58,875
myself and many other vendors

1747
00:52:58,875 --> 00:53:00,477
that are in this room today, as

1748
00:53:00,477 --> 00:53:01,511
well as other people that are

1749
00:53:01,511 --> 00:53:05,382
not in this room today. And just

1750
00:53:05,382 --> 00:53:06,750
a friendly reminder that to be

1751
00:53:06,750 --> 00:53:09,686
an elected official is an honor.

1752
00:53:09,686 --> 00:53:11,254
it is an honor to be an elected

1753
00:53:11,254 --> 00:53:12,622
official because you are voted

1754
00:53:12,622 --> 00:53:14,257
on by the people. And so it is

1755
00:53:14,257 --> 00:53:17,994
your job. It is your job to

1756
00:53:17,994 --> 00:53:21,064
enact and enforce legislation

1757
00:53:21,064 --> 00:53:22,566
that help make improve the lives

1758
00:53:22,566 --> 00:53:25,235
of your constituents, not harm

1759
00:53:25,235 --> 00:53:28,405
your constituents. Thank you.

1760
00:53:28,405 --> 00:53:29,206
-- thank you rachel. Next we

1761
00:53:29,206 --> 00:53:32,108
have alexia, followed by

1762
00:53:32,108 --> 00:53:32,442
-- [applause]

1763
00:53:32,442 --> 00:53:33,810
-- caroline. Alexia. Welcome

1764
00:53:33,810 --> 00:53:35,111
then. Caroline. You're up. Thank

1765
00:53:35,111 --> 00:53:36,947
you.

1766
00:53:36,947 --> 00:53:39,916
-- and hello guys. Hi. My name

1767
00:53:39,916 --> 00:53:40,517
is alexia sattler and I'm a

1768
00:53:40,517 --> 00:53:41,785
renter living in south lake

1769
00:53:41,785 --> 00:53:44,888
union. I urge the council to ban

1770
00:53:44,888 --> 00:53:47,023
rental junk fees and take

1771
00:53:47,023 --> 00:53:49,526
meaningful action to protect

1772
00:53:49,526 --> 00:53:50,994
renters in seattle and oppose

1773
00:53:50,994 --> 00:53:53,797
amendment c and d. When I lived

1774
00:53:53,797 --> 00:53:57,200
in eastlake, I was charged a $15

1775
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,169
administration fee and $50

1776
00:53:59,169 --> 00:53:59,803
technology technology fee on top

1777
00:53:59,803 --> 00:54:01,905
of the advertised rent, and

1778
00:54:01,905 --> 00:54:07,677
these charges may seem small,

1779
00:54:07,677 --> 00:54:09,279
but housing is already very

1780
00:54:09,279 --> 00:54:10,647
expensive for a lot of people. A

1781
00:54:10,647 --> 00:54:11,448
lot of my friends, my coworkers

1782
00:54:11,448 --> 00:54:12,482
to for every single apartment I

1783
00:54:12,482 --> 00:54:13,550
rented in seattle, I found

1784
00:54:13,550 --> 00:54:15,118
myself going back and forth with

1785
00:54:15,118 --> 00:54:17,520
property managers trying to

1786
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,856
negotiate or question what these

1787
00:54:19,856 --> 00:54:20,457
charges were, only to be told

1788
00:54:20,457 --> 00:54:21,758
that there was nothing they

1789
00:54:21,758 --> 00:54:24,961
could do about it. I'm a college

1790
00:54:24,961 --> 00:54:27,130
student with two jobs. This is

1791
00:54:27,130 --> 00:54:29,666
this is really unfair. Renters

1792
00:54:29,666 --> 00:54:31,635
should not have to fight their

1793
00:54:31,635 --> 00:54:32,869
landlords just to understand or

1794
00:54:32,869 --> 00:54:34,604
challenge the true cost of their

1795
00:54:34,604 --> 00:54:36,139
housing. I ask the council to

1796
00:54:36,139 --> 00:54:37,440
stand with the majority of

1797
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:38,008
seattle households who rent

1798
00:54:38,008 --> 00:54:38,875
their homes. Please support the

1799
00:54:38,875 --> 00:54:42,278
bill to ban rental junk fees and

1800
00:54:42,278 --> 00:54:43,546
oppose harmful amendments.

1801
00:54:43,546 --> 00:54:44,314
-- thank you alexia. Next we

1802
00:54:44,314 --> 00:54:44,814
have. Thank

1803
00:54:44,814 --> 00:54:45,949
-- [applause]

1804
00:54:45,949 --> 00:54:47,851
-- you.

1805
00:54:47,851 --> 00:54:49,152
-- [applause]

1806
00:54:49,152 --> 00:54:49,753
-- next, caroline. You go the

1807
00:54:49,753 --> 00:54:50,353
next people up before you go.

1808
00:54:50,353 --> 00:54:53,490
all right. It's going to be

1809
00:54:53,490 --> 00:54:54,557
chris apostate. Did I say that

1810
00:54:54,557 --> 00:54:57,327
right? Apostate. Apostate.

1811
00:54:57,327 --> 00:54:59,195
anyway. I'm sorry. Anitra.

1812
00:54:59,195 --> 00:55:04,634
ivan. Heather. Tennessee aiden.

1813
00:55:04,634 --> 00:55:08,238
kristen. Lexi and vera. And I

1814
00:55:08,238 --> 00:55:10,006
apologize if I mess up your

1815
00:55:10,006 --> 00:55:11,474
name. Caroline. Welcome.

1816
00:55:11,474 --> 00:55:13,109
-- hi, council. My name is

1817
00:55:13,109 --> 00:55:13,777
caroline russell. I'm a renter

1818
00:55:13,777 --> 00:55:15,345
in district three, and I'm here

1819
00:55:15,345 --> 00:55:17,013
in support of banning all rental

1820
00:55:17,013 --> 00:55:19,149
junk fees. But I want to talk

1821
00:55:19,149 --> 00:55:19,783
specifically about pet rent for

1822
00:55:19,783 --> 00:55:20,850
a moment. I've been renting in

1823
00:55:20,850 --> 00:55:21,484
seattle for seven years, and in

1824
00:55:21,484 --> 00:55:22,952
that time I've paid thousands

1825
00:55:22,952 --> 00:55:24,154
of dollars in rental fees, with

1826
00:55:24,154 --> 00:55:25,255
most of that coming from pet

1827
00:55:25,255 --> 00:55:26,623
rent for my cat. She has cost me

1828
00:55:26,623 --> 00:55:29,259
as much as $75 a month in pet

1829
00:55:29,259 --> 00:55:30,760
rent, despite never doing any

1830
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:31,728
damage to my apartment, let

1831
00:55:31,728 --> 00:55:32,395
alone the building itself. This

1832
00:55:32,395 --> 00:55:35,198
money has been pure profit for

1833
00:55:35,198 --> 00:55:36,266
my landlord. Landlords have

1834
00:55:36,266 --> 00:55:37,333
tried to pitch pet rent as an

1835
00:55:37,333 --> 00:55:38,768
equity issue to give this fee

1836
00:55:38,768 --> 00:55:39,636
the veneer of progressivism, but

1837
00:55:39,636 --> 00:55:41,871
it is the poorest and most

1838
00:55:41,871 --> 00:55:42,505
marginalized people in the city

1839
00:55:42,505 --> 00:55:43,540
who are the most impacted and

1840
00:55:43,540 --> 00:55:45,175
the most at risk of eviction

1841
00:55:45,175 --> 00:55:46,309
over the inability to pay an

1842
00:55:46,309 --> 00:55:47,477
extra monthly fee, especially

1843
00:55:47,477 --> 00:55:49,179
since these fees are not covered

1844
00:55:49,179 --> 00:55:50,447
by housing vouchers. Pet rent

1845
00:55:50,447 --> 00:55:51,781
prices on tenants love for their

1846
00:55:51,781 --> 00:55:52,916
pets to extract every last drop

1847
00:55:52,916 --> 00:55:55,118
of profit from them. This is a

1848
00:55:55,118 --> 00:55:56,186
majority renter city, and we're

1849
00:55:56,186 --> 00:55:57,387
all tired of being nickeled and

1850
00:55:57,387 --> 00:55:58,988
dimed by landlords. While rent

1851
00:55:58,988 --> 00:55:59,589
prices skyrocket and threaten

1852
00:55:59,589 --> 00:56:00,790
our housing stability, I urge

1853
00:56:00,790 --> 00:56:02,459
you to ban junk fees to pass

1854
00:56:02,459 --> 00:56:03,993
amendments a and e and to vote

1855
00:56:03,993 --> 00:56:05,862
no on amendments c and d, which

1856
00:56:05,862 --> 00:56:07,063
will weaken this bill and hurt

1857
00:56:07,063 --> 00:56:07,697
renters and protect trans people

1858
00:56:07,697 --> 00:56:09,132
now and forever.

1859
00:56:09,132 --> 00:56:10,133
-- thank you

1860
00:56:10,133 --> 00:56:10,467
-- [applause]

1861
00:56:10,467 --> 00:56:10,800
-- caroline.

1862
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:11,134
-- [applause]

1863
00:56:11,134 --> 00:56:12,535
-- chris.

1864
00:56:12,535 --> 00:56:12,936
-- it's chris,

1865
00:56:12,936 --> 00:56:13,269
-- [applause]

1866
00:56:13,269 --> 00:56:17,107
-- chris chris. Paul.

1867
00:56:17,107 --> 00:56:19,776
-- good afternoon. And freeman.

1868
00:56:19,776 --> 00:56:20,910
-- hold on, hold on one second.

1869
00:56:20,910 --> 00:56:24,781
we're looking for chris. Chris

1870
00:56:24,781 --> 00:56:25,348
is up next. Chris and then.

1871
00:56:25,348 --> 00:56:26,349
-- chris paul said, I'm a renter

1872
00:56:26,349 --> 00:56:30,353
living in madison park.

1873
00:56:30,353 --> 00:56:32,155
-- yeah. Go ahead.

1874
00:56:32,155 --> 00:56:33,456
-- my name is chris. I'm a

1875
00:56:33,456 --> 00:56:35,892
renter living in madison park. I

1876
00:56:35,892 --> 00:56:38,762
urge the council to support the

1877
00:56:38,762 --> 00:56:41,231
proposed ban on rental fees. I

1878
00:56:41,231 --> 00:56:43,233
oppose amendments c and d most

1879
00:56:43,233 --> 00:56:45,001
renters getting stuck with these

1880
00:56:45,001 --> 00:56:46,302
fees don't have the luxury of

1881
00:56:46,302 --> 00:56:47,437
taking time out of the middle of

1882
00:56:47,437 --> 00:56:48,838
a workday to testify at city

1883
00:56:48,838 --> 00:56:50,140
hall, so I want to use my time

1884
00:56:50,140 --> 00:56:52,375
for them as much as myself. I

1885
00:56:52,375 --> 00:56:53,476
currently pay $30 a month to

1886
00:56:53,476 --> 00:56:56,946
keep our cat, which I already

1887
00:56:56,946 --> 00:56:59,883
pay a damage deposit for, and

1888
00:56:59,883 --> 00:57:03,086
the landlord bears no additional

1889
00:57:03,086 --> 00:57:04,621
costs simply for the presence of

1890
00:57:04,621 --> 00:57:07,123
my cat in the unit. I also get

1891
00:57:07,123 --> 00:57:09,626
charged 250 a month for just

1892
00:57:09,626 --> 00:57:10,760
paying the rent, so I'm just

1893
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:11,928
going to surrender the rest of

1894
00:57:11,928 --> 00:57:14,330
my time just to say that I

1895
00:57:14,330 --> 00:57:16,633
support the bill and oppose the

1896
00:57:16,633 --> 00:57:17,867
amendments. And thank you.

1897
00:57:17,867 --> 00:57:21,638
-- thank you, chris

1898
00:57:21,638 --> 00:57:22,005
-- [applause]

1899
00:57:22,005 --> 00:57:22,338
-- apostate.

1900
00:57:22,338 --> 00:57:22,672
-- [applause]

1901
00:57:22,672 --> 00:57:25,141
-- okay

1902
00:57:25,141 --> 00:57:26,676
-- hello. Hi. My name is ari. I

1903
00:57:26,676 --> 00:57:28,378
came in to talk about the

1904
00:57:28,378 --> 00:57:29,479
$300,000 that you guys want to

1905
00:57:29,479 --> 00:57:30,880
give to the trans and queer

1906
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,916
community. I just think it's

1907
00:57:32,916 --> 00:57:34,684
absolutely ridiculous that in a

1908
00:57:34,684 --> 00:57:37,287
city that has a housing crisis,

1909
00:57:37,287 --> 00:57:37,887
sex trafficking problem, in a

1910
00:57:37,887 --> 00:57:41,658
city that has a serious drug

1911
00:57:41,658 --> 00:57:42,826
problem, you guys want to give

1912
00:57:42,826 --> 00:57:44,093
$300,000 away in the name of a

1913
00:57:44,093 --> 00:57:45,829
fictional genocide that's not

1914
00:57:45,829 --> 00:57:47,030
occurring. Okay. I think it's

1915
00:57:47,030 --> 00:57:48,531
really insulting to people who

1916
00:57:48,531 --> 00:57:49,098
have actually suffered and

1917
00:57:49,098 --> 00:57:50,633
attempt by governments to

1918
00:57:50,633 --> 00:57:52,268
systemically erase their

1919
00:57:52,268 --> 00:57:53,770
existence from this land. I

1920
00:57:53,770 --> 00:57:55,338
think it's insulting to this

1921
00:57:55,338 --> 00:57:57,373
nation. What's really happened

1922
00:57:57,373 --> 00:57:58,975
is trans migrants have moved

1923
00:57:58,975 --> 00:57:59,876
from state to state, just like

1924
00:57:59,876 --> 00:58:01,411
me. Like I came here ten years

1925
00:58:01,411 --> 00:58:03,012
ago for the same thing, just for

1926
00:58:03,012 --> 00:58:03,947
opportunity, rebuild my whole

1927
00:58:03,947 --> 00:58:06,483
life, found love. But they've

1928
00:58:06,483 --> 00:58:08,518
moved because women, adult human

1929
00:58:08,518 --> 00:58:09,919
females have said they're not

1930
00:58:09,919 --> 00:58:11,421
comfortable with males in their

1931
00:58:11,421 --> 00:58:13,423
bathrooms, in their prisons and

1932
00:58:13,423 --> 00:58:14,891
their rape shelters. Okay. And

1933
00:58:14,891 --> 00:58:16,759
so they've come here to hide so

1934
00:58:16,759 --> 00:58:18,962
they can oppress women. That's

1935
00:58:18,962 --> 00:58:20,096
what it's really about. And I

1936
00:58:20,096 --> 00:58:22,065
just think it's absolutely

1937
00:58:22,065 --> 00:58:23,099
ridiculous to see a city council

1938
00:58:23,099 --> 00:58:24,234
with this many women on it who

1939
00:58:24,234 --> 00:58:25,768
do not know what women are. I

1940
00:58:25,768 --> 00:58:27,237
think it's absolutely

1941
00:58:27,237 --> 00:58:29,305
ridiculous. You have trump's fbi

1942
00:58:29,305 --> 00:58:30,039
breaking up sex.

1943
00:58:30,039 --> 00:58:32,942
-- thank you. Thank you, ari.

1944
00:58:32,942 --> 00:58:34,744
thank you ari. Next. Thank you

1945
00:58:34,744 --> 00:58:36,512
ari. So all right. So we're

1946
00:58:36,512 --> 00:58:39,616
going to go to the next speaker.

1947
00:58:39,616 --> 00:58:42,752
okay. Anitra is next, followed

1948
00:58:42,752 --> 00:58:44,454
by ivan anitra. We're still

1949
00:58:44,454 --> 00:58:45,955
doing public comment. Y'all hold

1950
00:58:45,955 --> 00:58:46,122
on.

1951
00:58:46,122 --> 00:58:49,125
-- we're still speaking in

1952
00:58:49,125 --> 00:58:50,560
favor of the junk freeze

1953
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:54,564
legislation. For one thing, all

1954
00:58:54,564 --> 00:58:55,732
agreements should be opt in as a

1955
00:58:55,732 --> 00:58:58,668
matter of simple fairness, you

1956
00:58:58,668 --> 00:59:00,637
shouldn't have to, you know,

1957
00:59:00,637 --> 00:59:03,273
sign a lease and find out that

1958
00:59:03,273 --> 00:59:04,974
you've obligated yourself to 30

1959
00:59:04,974 --> 00:59:07,610
extra expenses that you didn't

1960
00:59:07,610 --> 00:59:10,713
know about. And the other thing

1961
00:59:10,713 --> 00:59:16,119
I I've had a cat for 30 years.

1962
00:59:16,119 --> 00:59:16,819
I'm used to putting a deposit

1963
00:59:16,819 --> 00:59:23,059
down. I don't know any apartment

1964
00:59:23,059 --> 00:59:25,561
dweller in seattle who takes

1965
00:59:25,561 --> 00:59:29,065
their cat outside at all.

1966
00:59:29,065 --> 00:59:30,700
there's that cat is in our

1967
00:59:30,700 --> 00:59:33,503
apartment. I have a deposit for

1968
00:59:33,503 --> 00:59:35,572
any damage it does. I don't need

1969
00:59:35,572 --> 00:59:40,510
to be charged for anything. That

1970
00:59:40,510 --> 00:59:41,044
cat that happens anywhere

1971
00:59:41,044 --> 00:59:43,780
outside the apartment. So keep

1972
00:59:43,780 --> 00:59:45,181
it fair. Thank you.

1973
00:59:45,181 --> 00:59:47,350
-- thank you. Next we have ivan,

1974
00:59:47,350 --> 00:59:50,920
followed by

1975
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:51,254
-- [applause]

1976
00:59:51,254 --> 00:59:51,554
-- heather.

1977
00:59:51,554 --> 00:59:52,722
-- ivan,

1978
00:59:52,722 --> 00:59:54,724
-- ivan, heather. Welcome, ivan.

1979
00:59:54,724 --> 00:59:57,126
heather. Tennessee. Aiden.

1980
00:59:57,126 --> 00:59:58,161
kristen. Lexi, vera. And then

1981
00:59:58,161 --> 00:59:59,929
we'll go online. Welcome.

1982
00:59:59,929 --> 01:00:02,632
-- yeah. My name is ivan. I'm

1983
01:00:02,632 --> 01:00:06,903
in district five. I am homeless,

1984
01:00:06,903 --> 01:00:08,972
but you know, I really would

1985
01:00:08,972 --> 01:00:10,740
love to be able to afford rent.

1986
01:00:10,740 --> 01:00:14,844
I am on disability, which means

1987
01:00:14,844 --> 01:00:18,214
pretty much I can't afford

1988
01:00:18,214 --> 01:00:20,550
rent. The landlords are adding

1989
01:00:20,550 --> 01:00:23,519
fees and other predatory billing

1990
01:00:23,519 --> 01:00:26,089
practices to skirt protections

1991
01:00:26,089 --> 01:00:28,224
designed to protect protect

1992
01:00:28,224 --> 01:00:30,159
renters from price gouging. And,

1993
01:00:30,159 --> 01:00:34,764
you know, like I always say,

1994
01:00:34,764 --> 01:00:40,336
jesse james needed a gun

1995
01:00:40,336 --> 01:00:41,771
-- thank you. Now we have

1996
01:00:41,771 --> 01:00:42,972
heather, followed by tennessee

1997
01:00:42,972 --> 01:00:45,575
aiden, kristen, lexi, welcome.

1998
01:00:45,575 --> 01:00:48,077
-- hi, my name is heather. I

1999
01:00:48,077 --> 01:00:49,779
live in tent city three, located

2000
01:00:49,779 --> 01:00:52,648
in district four. Our tagline

2001
01:00:52,648 --> 01:00:53,449
today is we can't afford the

2002
01:00:53,449 --> 01:00:55,852
rent, so we live in a tent. Urge

2003
01:00:55,852 --> 01:00:57,186
the council to take action today

2004
01:00:57,186 --> 01:00:59,222
to ban unnecessary housing

2005
01:00:59,222 --> 01:01:01,224
costs, but strongly oppose

2006
01:01:01,224 --> 01:01:03,593
amendment c and d. My biggest

2007
01:01:03,593 --> 01:01:06,029
hurdle in acquiring traditional

2008
01:01:06,029 --> 01:01:07,530
housing is rent. There's no way

2009
01:01:07,530 --> 01:01:08,831
a single mom with a pet making

2010
01:01:08,831 --> 01:01:11,134
less than 60,000 a year can

2011
01:01:11,134 --> 01:01:13,936
afford rent in seattle, let

2012
01:01:13,936 --> 01:01:16,539
alone pet rent and other

2013
01:01:16,539 --> 01:01:17,040
predatory, unnecessary,

2014
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:18,408
unnecessary housing fees. Thank

2015
01:01:18,408 --> 01:01:20,176
you so much.

2016
01:01:20,176 --> 01:01:21,577
-- awesome. Thank you. Heather,

2017
01:01:21,577 --> 01:01:21,911
we have

2018
01:01:21,911 --> 01:01:22,378
-- [applause]

2019
01:01:22,378 --> 01:01:24,213
-- tennis and did I say your

2020
01:01:24,213 --> 01:01:26,716
name right? Tennessee. Yeah.

2021
01:01:26,716 --> 01:01:27,950
okay. Awesome. Aiden. Kristen.

2022
01:01:27,950 --> 01:01:29,218
lexi. Vera. Welcome.

2023
01:01:29,218 --> 01:01:31,020
-- hi, I'm terence macgibbon.

2024
01:01:31,020 --> 01:01:35,625
I'm a long time resident of

2025
01:01:35,625 --> 01:01:38,494
rainier north. First, I want to

2026
01:01:38,494 --> 01:01:40,830
thank councilmembers lin and

2027
01:01:40,830 --> 01:01:42,098
foster for all their help in our

2028
01:01:42,098 --> 01:01:44,033
neighborhood and stuff. They've

2029
01:01:44,033 --> 01:01:46,135
been real champions helping us

2030
01:01:46,135 --> 01:01:49,038
out. I'm here to support and

2031
01:01:49,038 --> 01:01:52,742
ask you to support amendment a.

2032
01:01:52,742 --> 01:01:53,376
I don't have all the answers,

2033
01:01:53,376 --> 01:01:56,379
but I will tell you this. This

2034
01:01:56,379 --> 01:01:58,548
money is appropriated. You have

2035
01:01:58,548 --> 01:02:01,050
myself and the trash walkers

2036
01:02:01,050 --> 01:02:02,585
around rainier avenue north. You

2037
01:02:02,585 --> 01:02:04,520
have boots on. You know what

2038
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,355
I'm saying? Boots on the

2039
01:02:06,355 --> 01:02:09,125
pavement, whatever. You'll have

2040
01:02:09,125 --> 01:02:10,626
a lot of support from us because

2041
01:02:10,626 --> 01:02:12,061
I want to get our neighborhood

2042
01:02:12,061 --> 01:02:15,998
back to where it should be. And,

2043
01:02:15,998 --> 01:02:17,500
you know, I want to thank a few

2044
01:02:17,500 --> 01:02:20,002
people beside the

2045
01:02:20,002 --> 01:02:22,004
councilmembers, jenny franco,

2046
01:02:22,004 --> 01:02:24,340
adopt a street. You know, tracy

2047
01:02:24,340 --> 01:02:26,008
from find to fix it. I'm to find

2048
01:02:26,008 --> 01:02:29,011
to fix it. King. And I'm

2049
01:02:29,011 --> 01:02:30,913
adopting first street king. So

2050
01:02:30,913 --> 01:02:32,582
appreciate all the help that

2051
01:02:32,582 --> 01:02:34,383
everybody does. Thank you.

2052
01:02:34,383 --> 01:02:35,751
-- thank you king. Next we have

2053
01:02:35,751 --> 01:02:37,420
aiden, followed by kristen.

2054
01:02:37,420 --> 01:02:40,423
lexi. Vera will go online.

2055
01:02:40,423 --> 01:02:40,790
welcome. Hello.

2056
01:02:40,790 --> 01:02:41,757
-- my name is aiden. I'm a

2057
01:02:41,757 --> 01:02:43,826
renter in district five off of

2058
01:02:43,826 --> 01:02:44,460
lake city. And I want to comment

2059
01:02:44,460 --> 01:02:46,496
on the junk fee ban, the

2060
01:02:46,496 --> 01:02:47,663
proposed ban on junk fee is what

2061
01:02:47,663 --> 01:02:50,233
they call an easy win. Make a

2062
01:02:50,233 --> 01:02:52,435
little splash in the news about

2063
01:02:52,435 --> 01:02:53,469
being a representative. You

2064
01:02:53,469 --> 01:02:54,470
know, normal people, your voters

2065
01:02:54,470 --> 01:02:55,404
get to keep a little bit of

2066
01:02:55,404 --> 01:02:58,274
their hard earned wages on your

2067
01:02:58,274 --> 01:02:59,242
behalf. And I'm sorry, how

2068
01:02:59,242 --> 01:03:00,743
exactly is my pet supposed to be

2069
01:03:00,743 --> 01:03:02,845
paying rent again? Todd the cat

2070
01:03:02,845 --> 01:03:04,280
supposed to get a job, I

2071
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:05,047
suppose. Todd the cat needs to

2072
01:03:05,047 --> 01:03:06,249
set aside a little money every

2073
01:03:06,249 --> 01:03:07,583
month from his social security

2074
01:03:07,583 --> 01:03:09,185
check so he can pay his rent.

2075
01:03:09,185 --> 01:03:09,919
todd, the cat is going to be

2076
01:03:09,919 --> 01:03:11,154
evicted for failing to pay his

2077
01:03:11,154 --> 01:03:13,890
rent on time, and needs to plead

2078
01:03:13,890 --> 01:03:14,590
his case in court so he can keep

2079
01:03:14,590 --> 01:03:17,927
a roof over the head for his 14

2080
01:03:17,927 --> 01:03:18,795
kittens. What are we talking

2081
01:03:18,795 --> 01:03:20,696
about? What kind of evil dr.

2082
01:03:20,696 --> 01:03:22,899
eggman type think type thinks

2083
01:03:22,899 --> 01:03:24,133
pet rent is something we would

2084
01:03:24,133 --> 01:03:26,802
tolerate. Pets can't pay rent,

2085
01:03:26,802 --> 01:03:27,837
pets don't pay rent. Don't let

2086
01:03:27,837 --> 01:03:28,938
landlords make up nonsense fees

2087
01:03:28,938 --> 01:03:30,339
so they can squeeze every last

2088
01:03:30,339 --> 01:03:31,407
dime out of the hardworking

2089
01:03:31,407 --> 01:03:32,875
voters of the city. Please vote

2090
01:03:32,875 --> 01:03:35,578
yes on amendments a and e, which

2091
01:03:35,578 --> 01:03:36,179
will strengthen this bill and

2092
01:03:36,179 --> 01:03:39,081
vote no on amendment c and d,

2093
01:03:39,081 --> 01:03:39,615
which will weaken renters

2094
01:03:39,615 --> 01:03:40,116
protection. Thank you.

2095
01:03:40,116 --> 01:03:41,384
-- thank you. Next we have

2096
01:03:41,384 --> 01:03:42,051
kristen, followed by lexi and

2097
01:03:42,051 --> 01:03:45,488
then

2098
01:03:45,488 --> 01:03:45,988
-- [applause]

2099
01:03:45,988 --> 01:03:51,027
-- kristen. Welcome and then

2100
01:03:51,027 --> 01:03:51,994
lexi and vera.

2101
01:03:51,994 --> 01:03:52,228
-- hi.

2102
01:03:52,228 --> 01:03:53,329
-- just for the record, my name

2103
01:03:53,329 --> 01:03:56,232
is pronounced kirsten kirs.

2104
01:03:56,232 --> 01:03:57,567
-- my bad, let's restart our

2105
01:03:57,567 --> 01:03:57,767
time.

2106
01:03:57,767 --> 01:03:59,235
-- no worries. Restart your

2107
01:03:59,235 --> 01:03:59,835
time.

2108
01:03:59,835 --> 01:04:01,470
-- okay, restart our time. Okay.

2109
01:04:01,470 --> 01:04:03,539
-- starting my time. Okay. I am

2110
01:04:03,539 --> 01:04:04,974
an intern at byrd barr place.

2111
01:04:04,974 --> 01:04:09,679
it's a nonprofit, and we help

2112
01:04:09,679 --> 01:04:11,981
at. We just help the community.

2113
01:04:11,981 --> 01:04:13,449
and I'm not speaking on their

2114
01:04:13,449 --> 01:04:16,419
behalf, but I'm speaking on what

2115
01:04:16,419 --> 01:04:17,787
I see and what I hear from my

2116
01:04:17,787 --> 01:04:19,989
own personal experience working

2117
01:04:19,989 --> 01:04:24,260
in social services. We get about

2118
01:04:24,260 --> 01:04:26,829
one soft numbers. We get about

2119
01:04:26,829 --> 01:04:29,365
one four calls asking for rental

2120
01:04:29,365 --> 01:04:30,967
assistance due to evictions. So

2121
01:04:30,967 --> 01:04:33,669
we are facing a crisis in

2122
01:04:33,669 --> 01:04:35,504
housing and evictions right now

2123
01:04:35,504 --> 01:04:36,706
in king county right now in

2124
01:04:36,706 --> 01:04:38,040
seattle. Not just north, not

2125
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:41,611
just south all over, even in

2126
01:04:41,611 --> 01:04:43,446
bellevue, even shoreline. So

2127
01:04:43,446 --> 01:04:45,448
it's sort of this western part

2128
01:04:45,448 --> 01:04:48,284
of seattle. Anyways, I want to

2129
01:04:48,284 --> 01:04:49,185
invest in the community. We want

2130
01:04:49,185 --> 01:04:51,287
to invest in the community. So

2131
01:04:51,287 --> 01:04:53,289
we can't have these fees

2132
01:04:53,289 --> 01:04:55,157
because we want to invest in

2133
01:04:55,157 --> 01:04:58,027
families, communities,

2134
01:04:58,027 --> 01:04:58,327
education.

2135
01:04:58,327 --> 01:04:59,028
-- thank you. Kirsten. Next, we

2136
01:04:59,028 --> 01:05:00,229
have lexi, followed by

2137
01:05:00,229 --> 01:05:00,563
-- [applause]

2138
01:05:00,563 --> 01:05:04,834
-- vera welcome, lexi.

2139
01:05:04,834 --> 01:05:06,369
-- hello, I'm lexi salas, I'm a

2140
01:05:06,369 --> 01:05:08,871
renter in district three, and

2141
01:05:08,871 --> 01:05:09,672
I'm here today to urge our

2142
01:05:09,672 --> 01:05:10,806
council to vote to ban junk fees

2143
01:05:10,806 --> 01:05:12,441
without amendments. C and d

2144
01:05:12,441 --> 01:05:13,909
council president. You met my

2145
01:05:13,909 --> 01:05:14,877
dog, zombie. You thought he was

2146
01:05:14,877 --> 01:05:17,713
so cool. So please don't make

2147
01:05:17,713 --> 01:05:19,181
him pay rent. Seattle is a

2148
01:05:19,181 --> 01:05:20,149
majority renter city and it's

2149
01:05:20,149 --> 01:05:22,151
about time we have a council

2150
01:05:22,151 --> 01:05:22,752
that represents our interests

2151
01:05:22,752 --> 01:05:24,020
and doesn't uphold the status

2152
01:05:24,020 --> 01:05:26,055
quo, privileging property owners

2153
01:05:26,055 --> 01:05:28,491
over tenants for too long,

2154
01:05:28,491 --> 01:05:29,125
landlords and developers claim

2155
01:05:29,125 --> 01:05:31,127
that any additional protections

2156
01:05:31,127 --> 01:05:32,495
for tenants will result in the

2157
01:05:32,495 --> 01:05:34,297
sky falling. However, renters in

2158
01:05:34,297 --> 01:05:35,598
our city experienced the sky

2159
01:05:35,598 --> 01:05:36,565
fall on us whenever we have to

2160
01:05:36,565 --> 01:05:39,201
choose between food for our pets

2161
01:05:39,201 --> 01:05:40,703
or pet rent. This guy falls on

2162
01:05:40,703 --> 01:05:41,337
renters when we are slammed to

2163
01:05:41,337 --> 01:05:43,239
pay or vacate notices, and we

2164
01:05:43,239 --> 01:05:44,473
don't have money for moving

2165
01:05:44,473 --> 01:05:45,908
costs. The sky falls on renters

2166
01:05:45,908 --> 01:05:48,344
when we are evicted and left to

2167
01:05:48,344 --> 01:05:49,045
fend for ourselves. On the

2168
01:05:49,045 --> 01:05:51,113
streets of seattle, the sky

2169
01:05:51,113 --> 01:05:52,615
falls disproportionately on

2170
01:05:52,615 --> 01:05:53,582
trans renters, which is why the

2171
01:05:53,582 --> 01:05:56,085
council must also fund resources

2172
01:05:56,085 --> 01:05:57,687
for our trans neighbors. So

2173
01:05:57,687 --> 01:05:59,055
seattle city council, you have

2174
01:05:59,055 --> 01:05:59,989
the opportunity today to be a

2175
01:05:59,989 --> 01:06:01,924
national leader for renters by

2176
01:06:01,924 --> 01:06:03,359
banning rental junk fees without

2177
01:06:03,359 --> 01:06:04,727
amendments c and d, so please

2178
01:06:04,727 --> 01:06:06,028
make the right choice and side

2179
01:06:06,028 --> 01:06:06,629
with renters who make up the

2180
01:06:06,629 --> 01:06:08,631
majority of our city. Thank you.

2181
01:06:08,631 --> 01:06:10,967
-- thank you lexi. Next we have

2182
01:06:10,967 --> 01:06:11,167
vera.

2183
01:06:11,167 --> 01:06:11,500
-- [applause]

2184
01:06:11,500 --> 01:06:14,170
-- welcome

2185
01:06:14,170 --> 01:06:15,938
-- hello, my name is vera. I'm

2186
01:06:15,938 --> 01:06:17,406
an organizer at got green. And I

2187
01:06:17,406 --> 01:06:19,275
urge the council to support the

2188
01:06:19,275 --> 01:06:20,643
proposed ban on rental fees

2189
01:06:20,643 --> 01:06:23,112
while opposing amendments c and

2190
01:06:23,112 --> 01:06:25,047
d through hundreds of

2191
01:06:25,047 --> 01:06:25,681
conversations with our working

2192
01:06:25,681 --> 01:06:26,349
class black and brown neighbors

2193
01:06:26,349 --> 01:06:28,017
in south seattle got green has

2194
01:06:28,017 --> 01:06:30,086
heard that rent increases

2195
01:06:30,086 --> 01:06:32,254
housing insecurity,

2196
01:06:32,254 --> 01:06:32,788
displacement, unsafe and

2197
01:06:32,788 --> 01:06:34,523
unhealthy living conditions and

2198
01:06:34,523 --> 01:06:35,958
disrespect are what renters

2199
01:06:35,958 --> 01:06:37,259
contend with every day.

2200
01:06:37,259 --> 01:06:39,428
meanwhile, landlords and real

2201
01:06:39,428 --> 01:06:40,696
estate tycoons amass wealth, and

2202
01:06:40,696 --> 01:06:42,498
there's less and less public

2203
01:06:42,498 --> 01:06:44,600
investment in healthy housing.

2204
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:45,701
landlords have the power to make

2205
01:06:45,701 --> 01:06:47,603
business decisions, including

2206
01:06:47,603 --> 01:06:49,472
setting rental rates. With that

2207
01:06:49,472 --> 01:06:50,740
power, they must bear the costs

2208
01:06:50,740 --> 01:06:52,441
and the risks. Just like any

2209
01:06:52,441 --> 01:06:55,878
other business, this bill, which

2210
01:06:55,878 --> 01:06:57,413
reduces hidden and unnecessary

2211
01:06:57,413 --> 01:06:59,115
housing costs, and staffs sdci

2212
01:06:59,115 --> 01:07:00,216
to enforce them, is an important

2213
01:07:00,216 --> 01:07:02,284
step in the right direction.

2214
01:07:02,284 --> 01:07:03,319
support the bill to ban rental

2215
01:07:03,319 --> 01:07:05,021
fees and oppose harmful

2216
01:07:05,021 --> 01:07:06,322
amendments c and d, and, moving

2217
01:07:06,322 --> 01:07:08,724
forward, keep strengthening

2218
01:07:08,724 --> 01:07:09,225
rental protections and

2219
01:07:09,225 --> 01:07:10,159
enforcement. Thank you. And I

2220
01:07:10,159 --> 01:07:11,594
want to say trans rights are

2221
01:07:11,594 --> 01:07:13,329
human rights, trans rights

2222
01:07:13,329 --> 01:07:14,397
forever

2223
01:07:14,397 --> 01:07:14,730
-- thank you.

2224
01:07:14,730 --> 01:07:19,068
-- very next we're going to go

2225
01:07:19,068 --> 01:07:19,402
-- [applause]

2226
01:07:19,402 --> 01:07:20,069
-- online. All right. Now we're

2227
01:07:20,069 --> 01:07:21,604
going to go online. So we have

2228
01:07:21,604 --> 01:07:24,774
angie, wes, mr. Alvarez, ryan,

2229
01:07:24,774 --> 01:07:25,941
you're going to press star six

2230
01:07:25,941 --> 01:07:27,510
to unmute yourself. Welcome,

2231
01:07:27,510 --> 01:07:34,417
angie star six to unmute

2232
01:07:34,417 --> 01:07:37,353
yourself. You're on mute, angie

2233
01:07:37,353 --> 01:07:40,790
star six. We'll bump up wet.

2234
01:07:40,790 --> 01:07:44,560
oh, there you go. Go ahead.

2235
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,363
-- hi. My name is angie. I'm a

2236
01:07:47,363 --> 01:07:49,198
small ballard and a co-founder

2237
01:07:49,198 --> 01:07:51,000
of seattle grassroots landlords.

2238
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,903
we are opposed to the bloated

2239
01:07:53,903 --> 01:07:54,370
and flawed rental fee

2240
01:07:54,370 --> 01:07:56,505
legislation we participated in

2241
01:07:56,505 --> 01:07:58,274
the mayor's charade of a

2242
01:07:58,274 --> 01:08:02,278
stakeholder process renters?

2243
01:08:02,278 --> 01:08:03,612
excuse me. I just had to run in

2244
01:08:03,612 --> 01:08:09,018
from working outside and out of

2245
01:08:09,018 --> 01:08:12,488
breath. One moment. Renters

2246
01:08:12,488 --> 01:08:13,956
deserve transparency of costs,

2247
01:08:13,956 --> 01:08:16,525
not an expensive, over idealized

2248
01:08:16,525 --> 01:08:17,059
approach that makes lofty

2249
01:08:17,059 --> 01:08:18,994
promises without grounding in

2250
01:08:18,994 --> 01:08:21,030
the actual costs, risks, and

2251
01:08:21,030 --> 01:08:23,265
complexities of providing rental

2252
01:08:23,265 --> 01:08:25,901
housing in seattle, this moved

2253
01:08:25,901 --> 01:08:27,403
out of council's committee with

2254
01:08:27,403 --> 01:08:30,673
a five zero vote and not one

2255
01:08:30,673 --> 01:08:32,408
meeting involving housing

2256
01:08:32,408 --> 01:08:35,544
providers or q&a about rental

2257
01:08:35,544 --> 01:08:38,280
operations. You haven't even

2258
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:38,914
publicly released the 2025 end

2259
01:08:38,914 --> 01:08:40,716
of year real report. This is

2260
01:08:40,716 --> 01:08:42,585
poor governance in action.

2261
01:08:42,585 --> 01:08:44,720
please vote no. Please work on

2262
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:46,155
collaborative problem solving.

2263
01:08:46,155 --> 01:08:47,423
-- thank you, thank you angie.

2264
01:08:47,423 --> 01:08:48,424
next we have wes, followed by

2265
01:08:48,424 --> 01:08:49,892
mr. Alvarez, star six to unmute

2266
01:08:49,892 --> 01:08:57,666
yourself

2267
01:08:57,900 --> 01:08:59,735
-- good afternoon, members of

2268
01:08:59,735 --> 01:09:01,136
the city council. My name is

2269
01:09:01,136 --> 01:09:02,705
west mills and I'm a renter in

2270
01:09:02,705 --> 01:09:04,306
northgate with my wife and our

2271
01:09:04,306 --> 01:09:05,307
adorable dog. I would have

2272
01:09:05,307 --> 01:09:05,941
joined you in person today, but

2273
01:09:05,941 --> 01:09:07,476
while I am to the left, I'm also

2274
01:09:07,476 --> 01:09:09,111
employed, so I have to call in

2275
01:09:09,111 --> 01:09:09,945
during work hours. And thank you

2276
01:09:09,945 --> 01:09:11,580
for the auction and committing

2277
01:09:11,580 --> 01:09:13,048
to support of the overall

2278
01:09:13,048 --> 01:09:14,383
proposal to ban fees, and

2279
01:09:14,383 --> 01:09:16,318
particularly in opposition to

2280
01:09:16,318 --> 01:09:17,887
amendment p and d, nobody likes

2281
01:09:17,887 --> 01:09:18,854
jet skis, and if we did,

2282
01:09:18,854 --> 01:09:20,556
everyone would be lining up

2283
01:09:20,556 --> 01:09:21,190
singing the praises of comcast

2284
01:09:21,190 --> 01:09:21,891
and would speak highly of the

2285
01:09:21,891 --> 01:09:24,326
process of financing a car. But

2286
01:09:24,326 --> 01:09:25,427
housing is different. I can

2287
01:09:25,427 --> 01:09:27,162
choose not to go to some

2288
01:09:27,162 --> 01:09:27,963
businesses and ask to have, but

2289
01:09:27,963 --> 01:09:28,864
I have to have somewhere to

2290
01:09:28,864 --> 01:09:29,832
live. And disclosure is not

2291
01:09:29,832 --> 01:09:30,966
enough because by the time we've

2292
01:09:30,966 --> 01:09:34,003
gotten 80 pages deep and release

2293
01:09:34,003 --> 01:09:34,637
only discover the convenient opt

2294
01:09:34,637 --> 01:09:36,539
out for some valuable program or

2295
01:09:36,539 --> 01:09:37,506
worse, that a junk fee is

2296
01:09:37,506 --> 01:09:38,974
actually required. It's already

2297
01:09:38,974 --> 01:09:41,210
too late. My wife and I pay

2298
01:09:41,210 --> 01:09:42,978
almost $100 a month to rent. My

2299
01:09:42,978 --> 01:09:44,480
dog is unemployed, so we're

2300
01:09:44,480 --> 01:09:46,282
covering it for her amenity fees

2301
01:09:46,282 --> 01:09:47,249
for things like use of the

2302
01:09:47,249 --> 01:09:49,018
building access control system

2303
01:09:49,018 --> 01:09:50,686
and charges for common area

2304
01:09:50,686 --> 01:09:52,154
stuff. And that's after we've

2305
01:09:52,154 --> 01:09:53,289
managed multiple times to beat

2306
01:09:53,289 --> 01:09:53,889
back the sneaky opt out, but

2307
01:09:53,889 --> 01:09:55,224
only if you notice fees for

2308
01:09:55,224 --> 01:09:57,660
stuff like liability. Lake city.

2309
01:09:57,660 --> 01:09:59,962
please pass the bill without

2310
01:09:59,962 --> 01:10:00,596
amendment and do us the renters

2311
01:10:00,596 --> 01:10:02,898
in town.

2312
01:10:02,898 --> 01:10:04,967
-- thank you wes. Next we have

2313
01:10:04,967 --> 01:10:07,069
mr. Alvarez, followed by ryan,

2314
01:10:07,069 --> 01:10:13,976
and then to luna.

2315
01:10:13,976 --> 01:10:14,376
-- thank you.

2316
01:10:14,376 --> 01:10:16,345
-- I'm strongly against

2317
01:10:16,345 --> 01:10:18,013
amendment c and d for the junk

2318
01:10:18,013 --> 01:10:20,449
fee legislation. What's most

2319
01:10:20,449 --> 01:10:21,550
egregious with the pet rent

2320
01:10:21,550 --> 01:10:23,619
carve out is that the amendment

2321
01:10:23,619 --> 01:10:24,853
ties it to inflation in the

2322
01:10:24,853 --> 01:10:27,122
economy. When do renters get any

2323
01:10:27,122 --> 01:10:30,893
such benefit into law? Landlords

2324
01:10:30,893 --> 01:10:33,729
don't care about the rates of

2325
01:10:33,729 --> 01:10:35,864
unemployment or layoffs, or that

2326
01:10:35,864 --> 01:10:38,467
wages don't keep up with sales

2327
01:10:38,467 --> 01:10:40,135
taxes, medications, grocery

2328
01:10:40,135 --> 01:10:42,771
prices? The rent is always due

2329
01:10:42,771 --> 01:10:45,975
no matter what the consumer

2330
01:10:45,975 --> 01:10:47,643
price index reports. And so we

2331
01:10:47,643 --> 01:10:49,178
have excuse me, and so we have

2332
01:10:49,178 --> 01:10:52,881
rent discounts to help with dips

2333
01:10:52,881 --> 01:10:53,482
in consumer income. Landlords

2334
01:10:53,482 --> 01:10:55,651
should have no such benefit for

2335
01:10:55,651 --> 01:10:57,519
themselves. No on all junk fees

2336
01:10:57,519 --> 01:11:01,423
that nickel and dime us into

2337
01:11:01,423 --> 01:11:02,057
crisis and homelessness. Thank

2338
01:11:02,057 --> 01:11:04,059
you. Have a good day.

2339
01:11:04,059 --> 01:11:06,028
-- thank you. Next we have ryan,

2340
01:11:06,028 --> 01:11:07,296
followed by talena and then

2341
01:11:07,296 --> 01:11:10,633
kelsey. Star six to unmute

2342
01:11:10,633 --> 01:11:10,899
yourself.

2343
01:11:10,899 --> 01:11:12,001
-- hi council, my name is ryan

2344
01:11:12,001 --> 01:11:13,969
talon. I'm a registered nurse

2345
01:11:13,969 --> 01:11:14,770
at harborview and I'm a renter

2346
01:11:14,770 --> 01:11:17,706
in capitol hill. I urge this

2347
01:11:17,706 --> 01:11:20,776
council to ban rental junkies

2348
01:11:20,776 --> 01:11:22,077
and to oppose amendments c and d

2349
01:11:22,077 --> 01:11:23,812
honest markets require honest

2350
01:11:23,812 --> 01:11:24,947
pricing. When I moved into my

2351
01:11:24,947 --> 01:11:25,881
building, I budgeted carefully

2352
01:11:25,881 --> 01:11:27,650
based on the advertised rent,

2353
01:11:27,650 --> 01:11:28,751
but hidden pet rent and

2354
01:11:28,751 --> 01:11:30,119
recurring administration fees

2355
01:11:30,119 --> 01:11:31,854
caught me completely off guard.

2356
01:11:31,854 --> 01:11:33,522
the true cost was buried in fine

2357
01:11:33,522 --> 01:11:35,257
print, making it impossible to

2358
01:11:35,257 --> 01:11:36,892
compare options accurately or

2359
01:11:36,892 --> 01:11:38,293
plan my finances. This lack of

2360
01:11:38,293 --> 01:11:39,695
transparency hurts renters, and

2361
01:11:39,695 --> 01:11:41,964
it distorts the entire housing

2362
01:11:41,964 --> 01:11:43,065
market. Banning fees is a simple

2363
01:11:43,065 --> 01:11:44,300
step towards a fairer market

2364
01:11:44,300 --> 01:11:45,968
where advertised prices reflect

2365
01:11:45,968 --> 01:11:47,636
real costs. Renters deserve to

2366
01:11:47,636 --> 01:11:49,605
know what housing actually costs

2367
01:11:49,605 --> 01:11:50,873
before signing a lease. Please

2368
01:11:50,873 --> 01:11:52,541
support this bill to increase

2369
01:11:52,541 --> 01:11:54,176
transparency and ban deceptive

2370
01:11:54,176 --> 01:11:56,278
junk fees and oppose harmful

2371
01:11:56,278 --> 01:11:57,379
amendments. C and d also.

2372
01:11:57,379 --> 01:11:58,947
lastly, I just want to say that

2373
01:11:58,947 --> 01:11:59,915
the trans community trying to

2374
01:11:59,915 --> 01:12:00,549
move seattle by making housing

2375
01:12:00,549 --> 01:12:01,617
costs more transparent is a way

2376
01:12:01,617 --> 01:12:05,254
to help them. So please support

2377
01:12:05,254 --> 01:12:05,654
the legislation.

2378
01:12:05,654 --> 01:12:06,488
-- thank you. Thank you. Ryan.

2379
01:12:06,488 --> 01:12:11,794
next, we have talena followed by

2380
01:12:11,794 --> 01:12:12,161
kelsey, susan.

2381
01:12:12,161 --> 01:12:14,196
-- hi. My name is talana read

2382
01:12:14,196 --> 01:12:15,397
with the tenants union of

2383
01:12:15,397 --> 01:12:16,432
washington state. Please vote

2384
01:12:16,432 --> 01:12:18,734
yes on the junk fees ordinance

2385
01:12:18,734 --> 01:12:20,636
and reject amendment c and d of

2386
01:12:20,636 --> 01:12:23,839
the callers. We get over $200 a

2387
01:12:23,839 --> 01:12:26,875
month with different issues and

2388
01:12:26,875 --> 01:12:27,509
approximately 80% of those are

2389
01:12:27,509 --> 01:12:29,812
about junk fees. Pets do not

2390
01:12:29,812 --> 01:12:30,779
have jobs and cannot afford to

2391
01:12:30,779 --> 01:12:34,583
pay their rent either. It is

2392
01:12:34,583 --> 01:12:35,617
very important to to ensure that

2393
01:12:35,617 --> 01:12:36,485
seattle residents are able to

2394
01:12:36,485 --> 01:12:38,187
afford the rent. These are

2395
01:12:38,187 --> 01:12:39,988
hidden costs that renters are

2396
01:12:39,988 --> 01:12:40,556
already paying and renters

2397
01:12:40,556 --> 01:12:41,857
deserve straightforward pricing

2398
01:12:41,857 --> 01:12:43,292
that reflects what they will

2399
01:12:43,292 --> 01:12:44,593
actually be paid out of pocket.

2400
01:12:44,593 --> 01:12:46,395
pet rent is predatory. It

2401
01:12:46,395 --> 01:12:48,564
exploits the love people have

2402
01:12:48,564 --> 01:12:49,331
for their pets, and landlords

2403
01:12:49,331 --> 01:12:50,632
should not be allowed to find

2404
01:12:50,632 --> 01:12:51,834
new and creative ways to get

2405
01:12:51,834 --> 01:12:52,668
money from the people who rely

2406
01:12:52,668 --> 01:12:55,070
on them for housing. Please vote

2407
01:12:55,070 --> 01:12:57,840
yes on this ordinance.

2408
01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:59,408
-- thank you. Next we have

2409
01:12:59,408 --> 01:13:00,409
kelsey, followed by susan star

2410
01:13:00,409 --> 01:13:06,415
six.

2411
01:13:06,415 --> 01:13:07,149
-- hello, my name is kelsey

2412
01:13:07,149 --> 01:13:08,350
timmer and I'm a renter in

2413
01:13:08,350 --> 01:13:09,952
district three, as well as a

2414
01:13:09,952 --> 01:13:11,253
city worker and member of

2415
01:13:11,253 --> 01:13:13,689
protect 17. I'm speaking today

2416
01:13:13,689 --> 01:13:14,957
to ask city council to support

2417
01:13:14,957 --> 01:13:17,693
banning junk fees to support

2418
01:13:17,693 --> 01:13:18,727
amendments a and e to allow

2419
01:13:18,727 --> 01:13:20,696
renters to be fairly compensated

2420
01:13:20,696 --> 01:13:22,097
for harms and to oppose

2421
01:13:22,097 --> 01:13:23,399
amendments c and d. It's hard

2422
01:13:23,399 --> 01:13:24,900
enough to afford living in the

2423
01:13:24,900 --> 01:13:26,402
city I work for, and junk fees

2424
01:13:26,402 --> 01:13:28,203
only make it harder to. Junk

2425
01:13:28,203 --> 01:13:29,071
fees I have paid the most are

2426
01:13:29,071 --> 01:13:31,707
pet rent. Each year I pay over

2427
01:13:31,707 --> 01:13:33,375
300 extra dollars in rent

2428
01:13:33,375 --> 01:13:34,843
because I have a cat. This just

2429
01:13:34,843 --> 01:13:36,678
doesn't make sense. Any extra

2430
01:13:36,678 --> 01:13:38,747
risk of damage should be covered

2431
01:13:38,747 --> 01:13:40,783
under a refundable pet deposit,

2432
01:13:40,783 --> 01:13:42,117
and any utilities. My cat is

2433
01:13:42,117 --> 01:13:44,386
somehow using. I'm already

2434
01:13:44,386 --> 01:13:45,587
paying for. Pet rent is just one

2435
01:13:45,587 --> 01:13:48,190
of many junk fees, and another

2436
01:13:48,190 --> 01:13:49,691
excuse for landlords to increase

2437
01:13:49,691 --> 01:13:50,893
their revenue, which makes it

2438
01:13:50,893 --> 01:13:52,261
harder for people to afford

2439
01:13:52,261 --> 01:13:55,030
housing in our city. I urge you,

2440
01:13:55,030 --> 01:13:56,532
please support the bill to ban

2441
01:13:56,532 --> 01:13:58,367
junk fees, support amendments a

2442
01:13:58,367 --> 01:14:00,068
and e and oppose amendments c

2443
01:14:00,068 --> 01:14:02,004
and d. Finally, trans rights are

2444
01:14:02,004 --> 01:14:03,972
human rights. Please support our

2445
01:14:03,972 --> 01:14:04,373
trans neighbors.

2446
01:14:04,373 --> 01:14:06,809
-- thank you. Thank you kelsey.

2447
01:14:06,809 --> 01:14:08,544
we have susan followed by ken

2448
01:14:08,544 --> 01:14:11,513
and then rose. Susan.

2449
01:14:11,513 --> 01:14:13,515
-- good afternoon, susan riggs

2450
01:14:13,515 --> 01:14:16,452
with the aspca. I'm speaking in

2451
01:14:16,452 --> 01:14:17,386
support of rental fees.

2452
01:14:17,386 --> 01:14:19,121
ordinance is currently written

2453
01:14:19,121 --> 01:14:20,622
and against the proposed

2454
01:14:20,622 --> 01:14:21,657
amendment fee. As it stands

2455
01:14:21,657 --> 01:14:23,192
today, landlords have at their

2456
01:14:23,192 --> 01:14:24,893
disposal both security deposits

2457
01:14:24,893 --> 01:14:27,062
and pet deposits to address any

2458
01:14:27,062 --> 01:14:28,864
pet related damages.

2459
01:14:28,864 --> 01:14:29,498
furthermore, there's little

2460
01:14:29,498 --> 01:14:31,200
evidence that landlords incur

2461
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:31,800
widespread pet related costs

2462
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,269
that justify ongoing monthly

2463
01:14:34,269 --> 01:14:36,338
costs. Specifically, recent

2464
01:14:36,338 --> 01:14:37,739
research has found that only 9%

2465
01:14:37,739 --> 01:14:40,209
of pets cause any damage, the

2466
01:14:40,209 --> 01:14:41,176
majority of which is repaired by

2467
01:14:41,176 --> 01:14:43,245
tenants prior to vacancy, with

2468
01:14:43,245 --> 01:14:47,449
the average damage costing just

2469
01:14:47,449 --> 01:14:48,684
$210, which is easily covered by

2470
01:14:48,684 --> 01:14:50,619
the current requirements.

2471
01:14:50,619 --> 01:14:52,120
opponents of this ordinance

2472
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:53,555
argue that eliminating pet rent

2473
01:14:53,555 --> 01:14:55,157
and nonrefundable fees will

2474
01:14:55,157 --> 01:14:55,757
force landlords to raise rent

2475
01:14:55,757 --> 01:14:58,193
for everyone. However, data from

2476
01:14:58,193 --> 01:14:59,761
denver, colorado, where pet rent

2477
01:14:59,761 --> 01:15:02,064
rental fees were capped

2478
01:15:02,064 --> 01:15:04,266
effective january 2024, soda

2479
01:15:04,266 --> 01:15:05,934
significant reduction in rents

2480
01:15:05,934 --> 01:15:06,568
following the law's enactment

2481
01:15:06,568 --> 01:15:07,669
and no change in pet friendly

2482
01:15:07,669 --> 01:15:10,472
rental inventory. Thank you.

2483
01:15:10,472 --> 01:15:11,540
-- thank you susan. Next we have

2484
01:15:11,540 --> 01:15:13,809
ken, followed by rose ken star

2485
01:15:13,809 --> 01:15:16,879
six.

2486
01:15:16,879 --> 01:15:17,479
-- hello, my name.

2487
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:19,448
-- is ken timmons. I strongly

2488
01:15:19,448 --> 01:15:20,983
support amendment a to council

2489
01:15:20,983 --> 01:15:24,319
bill 121253. I have lived in

2490
01:15:24,319 --> 01:15:25,454
mount baker for 34 years. I last

2491
01:15:25,454 --> 01:15:27,456
spoke to you on april 7th and

2492
01:15:27,456 --> 01:15:28,991
described the crisis in our

2493
01:15:28,991 --> 01:15:30,859
neighborhood. Well, the crisis

2494
01:15:30,859 --> 01:15:32,127
continues. In the past four

2495
01:15:32,127 --> 01:15:34,263
months, we've had arsons,

2496
01:15:34,263 --> 01:15:36,865
shootings, overdose deaths, more

2497
01:15:36,865 --> 01:15:38,800
encampments, drug dealing, theft

2498
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:40,536
and vandalism to businesses and

2499
01:15:40,536 --> 01:15:41,904
property, and a recent home

2500
01:15:41,904 --> 01:15:44,273
burglary. And now suspected

2501
01:15:44,273 --> 01:15:46,708
prostitution. We have made

2502
01:15:46,708 --> 01:15:49,811
multiple 911 calls filed many

2503
01:15:49,811 --> 01:15:50,312
scientific reports, and

2504
01:15:50,312 --> 01:15:51,914
contacted metro numerous times

2505
01:15:51,914 --> 01:15:54,650
to address drug use at our bus

2506
01:15:54,650 --> 01:15:56,084
stops. We have been trying to

2507
01:15:56,084 --> 01:15:57,486
improve our neighborhood, but we

2508
01:15:57,486 --> 01:16:00,422
are exhausted and we are

2509
01:16:00,422 --> 01:16:00,956
frustrated. Councilmember

2510
01:16:00,956 --> 01:16:02,424
lindsay will bring a focused

2511
01:16:02,424 --> 01:16:03,759
effort on a problem that is too

2512
01:16:03,759 --> 01:16:06,862
big for us. Pass this amendment.

2513
01:16:06,862 --> 01:16:07,162
thank you.

2514
01:16:07,162 --> 01:16:08,931
-- thank you. Next we have rose,

2515
01:16:08,931 --> 01:16:11,767
followed by steve and then

2516
01:16:11,767 --> 01:16:16,638
alice.

2517
01:16:16,638 --> 01:16:17,039
-- hello. Thank.

2518
01:16:17,039 --> 01:16:19,308
-- you. Council president

2519
01:16:19,308 --> 01:16:19,908
hollingsworth. I was able to

2520
01:16:19,908 --> 01:16:21,243
meet with your office yesterday

2521
01:16:21,243 --> 01:16:22,811
and have some productive

2522
01:16:22,811 --> 01:16:23,979
conversations. I look forward to

2523
01:16:23,979 --> 01:16:25,414
having more conversations in the

2524
01:16:25,414 --> 01:16:27,649
future. The trans community is

2525
01:16:27,649 --> 01:16:29,685
in crisis. I came here 20 months

2526
01:16:29,685 --> 01:16:31,687
ago hoping that there would be

2527
01:16:31,687 --> 01:16:32,554
more support here for the

2528
01:16:32,554 --> 01:16:34,323
community, but my, myself and

2529
01:16:34,323 --> 01:16:35,190
many others paid out of our

2530
01:16:35,190 --> 01:16:37,693
pocket to help the community

2531
01:16:37,693 --> 01:16:38,727
with resources that the city

2532
01:16:38,727 --> 01:16:39,962
should have been providing.

2533
01:16:39,962 --> 01:16:41,330
there are many individuals that

2534
01:16:41,330 --> 01:16:42,397
are at the breaking point, both

2535
01:16:42,397 --> 01:16:44,833
mentally and financially. We

2536
01:16:44,833 --> 01:16:45,934
need the support, and the

2537
01:16:45,934 --> 01:16:48,203
support is good that we have

2538
01:16:48,203 --> 01:16:50,405
today. We. I would encourage the

2539
01:16:50,405 --> 01:16:52,040
council to not just see this as

2540
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:53,709
a one time financial measure,

2541
01:16:53,709 --> 01:16:54,443
but to look forward to how we

2542
01:16:54,443 --> 01:16:56,912
can help the community going

2543
01:16:56,912 --> 01:16:58,280
forward, because this is an

2544
01:16:58,280 --> 01:16:59,548
ongoing issue that is only going

2545
01:16:59,548 --> 01:17:01,116
to consider. It's only going to

2546
01:17:01,116 --> 01:17:04,019
get considerably worse as the

2547
01:17:04,019 --> 01:17:07,155
years go on. So please support

2548
01:17:07,155 --> 01:17:08,890
our communities. We deserve it.

2549
01:17:08,890 --> 01:17:11,960
it is. It is what we all need.

2550
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:13,528
thank you.

2551
01:17:13,528 --> 01:17:15,097
-- thank you. Rose. Next we

2552
01:17:15,097 --> 01:17:15,597
-- [applause]

2553
01:17:15,597 --> 01:17:18,834
-- have steve followed by alice.

2554
01:17:18,834 --> 01:17:21,370
welcome, steve.

2555
01:17:21,370 --> 01:17:22,804
-- hello. My name is steve. I've

2556
01:17:22,804 --> 01:17:26,174
been a resident of north rainier

2557
01:17:26,174 --> 01:17:28,844
for 34 years. Today I'm urging

2558
01:17:28,844 --> 01:17:29,378
you to support councilman

2559
01:17:29,378 --> 01:17:30,879
lynn's amendment a to

2560
01:17:30,879 --> 01:17:32,914
supplemental budget to establish

2561
01:17:32,914 --> 01:17:34,783
a community fund intended to

2562
01:17:34,783 --> 01:17:36,652
bring public safety outreach

2563
01:17:36,652 --> 01:17:38,620
programs to our neighborhood on

2564
01:17:38,620 --> 01:17:39,921
april 7th, a group of us

2565
01:17:39,921 --> 01:17:41,923
attended your council meeting

2566
01:17:41,923 --> 01:17:43,992
and presented an impact study

2567
01:17:43,992 --> 01:17:46,261
that we conducted along north

2568
01:17:46,261 --> 01:17:47,529
rainier. We asked you to address

2569
01:17:47,529 --> 01:17:50,399
issues of crime, general safety

2570
01:17:50,399 --> 01:17:52,300
and to help dionne house. We now

2571
01:17:52,300 --> 01:17:55,871
feel that you've listened to our

2572
01:17:55,871 --> 01:17:56,505
concerns because this proposed

2573
01:17:56,505 --> 01:17:58,840
amendment addresses these

2574
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:00,976
issues. Councilman lin foster

2575
01:18:00,976 --> 01:18:02,077
and hollingsworth, you've been

2576
01:18:02,077 --> 01:18:03,111
on the ground in this area many

2577
01:18:03,111 --> 01:18:05,847
times, and you understand the

2578
01:18:05,847 --> 01:18:07,182
urgency of implementing this

2579
01:18:07,182 --> 01:18:09,484
plan. And, councilman strauss,

2580
01:18:09,484 --> 01:18:11,653
you've spoken of its success in

2581
01:18:11,653 --> 01:18:13,555
other districts and your

2582
01:18:13,555 --> 01:18:15,057
willingness to expand to north d

2583
01:18:15,057 --> 01:18:17,626
two. We want to thank you all.

2584
01:18:17,626 --> 01:18:18,260
we also want you to know that

2585
01:18:18,260 --> 01:18:20,662
once this community fund is

2586
01:18:20,662 --> 01:18:21,963
established, we're ready to go

2587
01:18:21,963 --> 01:18:27,235
to help the outreach staff.

2588
01:18:27,235 --> 01:18:27,836
-- thank you. Steve. Next, we

2589
01:18:27,836 --> 01:18:29,137
have alice, followed by dr.

2590
01:18:29,137 --> 01:18:39,114
janice and then james wu.

2591
01:18:39,114 --> 01:18:41,116
-- good afternoon council, this

2592
01:18:41,116 --> 01:18:44,386
is alice lockhart calling from

2593
01:18:44,386 --> 01:18:47,622
district five. And I wanted very

2594
01:18:47,622 --> 01:18:50,025
short to urge you to please pass

2595
01:18:50,025 --> 01:18:54,296
the b 12125 for the junk fee ban

2596
01:18:54,296 --> 01:18:57,099
and keep it a complete ban by

2597
01:18:57,099 --> 01:19:00,936
not passing weakening amendments

2598
01:19:00,936 --> 01:19:05,073
I'm sorry, c and d, I believe

2599
01:19:05,073 --> 01:19:05,974
the last two amendments. You

2600
01:19:05,974 --> 01:19:08,143
know it's the right thing to

2601
01:19:08,143 --> 01:19:11,847
do. Stay strong. Thank you so

2602
01:19:11,847 --> 01:19:12,047
much.

2603
01:19:12,047 --> 01:19:13,181
-- thank you alex. We're gonna

2604
01:19:13,181 --> 01:19:13,882
do doctor janice and then james.

2605
01:19:13,882 --> 01:19:14,816
and then we're going to come

2606
01:19:14,816 --> 01:19:20,856
back in person. So dr. Janice

2607
01:19:20,856 --> 01:19:21,289
clark and james wu.

2608
01:19:21,289 --> 01:19:23,358
-- good afternoon. I'm dr.

2609
01:19:23,358 --> 01:19:25,761
janice clark founder of and

2610
01:19:25,761 --> 01:19:30,031
president of safe homes. I rise

2611
01:19:30,031 --> 01:19:33,001
today in strong support of the

2612
01:19:33,001 --> 01:19:33,535
five appointments to the

2613
01:19:33,535 --> 01:19:35,570
indigenous advisory council. And

2614
01:19:35,570 --> 01:19:37,773
with deep gratitude to the

2615
01:19:37,773 --> 01:19:40,041
department of neighborhoods,

2616
01:19:40,041 --> 01:19:43,712
president of seattle council,

2617
01:19:43,712 --> 01:19:45,413
mamu and all councilmembers for

2618
01:19:45,413 --> 01:19:49,417
their work process that selected

2619
01:19:49,417 --> 01:19:52,487
safe homes, women veterans

2620
01:19:52,487 --> 01:19:55,791
program pilot for food security

2621
01:19:55,791 --> 01:19:56,458
and resiliency initiative, this

2622
01:19:56,458 --> 01:19:59,060
pilot, funded through the

2623
01:19:59,060 --> 01:20:00,695
sweetened beverage tax, affirms

2624
01:20:00,695 --> 01:20:03,832
that food is culturally,

2625
01:20:03,832 --> 01:20:05,133
emotionally, and intellectual

2626
01:20:05,133 --> 01:20:08,036
nourishment. If these. The

2627
01:20:08,036 --> 01:20:09,404
brains and shapes decisions that

2628
01:20:09,404 --> 01:20:11,106
affect the safety of those who

2629
01:20:11,106 --> 01:20:13,809
live, work and worship in our

2630
01:20:13,809 --> 01:20:16,545
city as we move forward, it is

2631
01:20:16,545 --> 01:20:18,480
essential that indigenous women

2632
01:20:18,480 --> 01:20:20,916
veterans are also identified and

2633
01:20:20,916 --> 01:20:22,517
given an opportunity to

2634
01:20:22,517 --> 01:20:24,819
participate. Thank you for your

2635
01:20:24,819 --> 01:20:25,120
leadership.

2636
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,589
-- thank you, dr. Clark. Next,

2637
01:20:27,589 --> 01:20:29,024
we have james. Before you start,

2638
01:20:29,024 --> 01:20:29,691
james, this is just a time

2639
01:20:29,691 --> 01:20:30,959
check. We still have about 60

2640
01:20:30,959 --> 01:20:33,995
more speakers. So I'm going to

2641
01:20:33,995 --> 01:20:35,397
say the next ten speakers that

2642
01:20:35,397 --> 01:20:36,932
are in person. We're going to

2643
01:20:36,932 --> 01:20:39,367
have james wu go online but

2644
01:20:39,367 --> 01:20:40,802
before. So we can kind of get

2645
01:20:40,802 --> 01:20:42,571
set with people in the queue. We

2646
01:20:42,571 --> 01:20:43,772
have kate rubin followed by

2647
01:20:43,772 --> 01:20:46,508
casey. We have andrea, we have

2648
01:20:46,508 --> 01:20:50,478
margaret, we have ben wong,

2649
01:20:50,478 --> 01:20:52,314
samuel wolfson, megan, steph,

2650
01:20:52,314 --> 01:20:58,353
aaron, and then ruby, rubai,

2651
01:20:58,353 --> 01:21:00,689
ruby. So we have those people

2652
01:21:00,689 --> 01:21:02,324
that are next. James you will go

2653
01:21:02,324 --> 01:21:07,629
and then we'll go to kate rubin.

2654
01:21:07,629 --> 01:21:07,996
welcome. James.

2655
01:21:07,996 --> 01:21:09,097
-- hello.

2656
01:21:09,097 --> 01:21:11,166
-- my name is james wu. I'm a

2657
01:21:11,166 --> 01:21:12,434
homeowner in d five. I urge the

2658
01:21:12,434 --> 01:21:16,137
council to support 121254 and

2659
01:21:16,137 --> 01:21:17,706
the amendments a and e as well

2660
01:21:17,706 --> 01:21:19,474
as the budget elements for

2661
01:21:19,474 --> 01:21:21,042
transfer refugee funding. I find

2662
01:21:21,042 --> 01:21:23,345
it very interesting that only

2663
01:21:23,345 --> 01:21:26,181
homeowners get 30 years of

2664
01:21:26,181 --> 01:21:26,815
permanently stable housing price

2665
01:21:26,815 --> 01:21:27,482
control, but that in the middle

2666
01:21:27,482 --> 01:21:29,117
of a housing crisis, a climate

2667
01:21:29,117 --> 01:21:32,520
refugee crisis and a refugee

2668
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:33,088
crisis, renters instead get

2669
01:21:33,088 --> 01:21:34,522
creatively hidden, layered fees

2670
01:21:34,522 --> 01:21:37,325
like pet rent. I also oppose

2671
01:21:37,325 --> 01:21:39,060
amendment c and d. I know that

2672
01:21:39,060 --> 01:21:40,829
councilmember kettle have no

2673
01:21:40,829 --> 01:21:41,429
qualms criticizing fees that

2674
01:21:41,429 --> 01:21:43,331
are, quote, one off and

2675
01:21:43,331 --> 01:21:44,466
piecemeal as long as they're

2676
01:21:44,466 --> 01:21:46,334
called taxes. Last july, he

2677
01:21:46,334 --> 01:21:47,369
criticized one off tax

2678
01:21:47,369 --> 01:21:49,871
solutions. This march, he railed

2679
01:21:49,871 --> 01:21:51,940
on the layering of tax, on tax

2680
01:21:51,940 --> 01:21:53,275
and piecemeal taxes. Last month,

2681
01:21:53,275 --> 01:21:55,277
he argued taxes are being passed

2682
01:21:55,277 --> 01:21:56,578
individually, with no notion of

2683
01:21:56,578 --> 01:21:57,979
cumulative financial burden.

2684
01:21:57,979 --> 01:22:01,683
well, rental one time off fees

2685
01:22:01,683 --> 01:22:03,084
are fees on fees and piecemeal

2686
01:22:03,084 --> 01:22:03,985
fees when it's for private

2687
01:22:03,985 --> 01:22:07,289
profit, just not to fund public

2688
01:22:07,289 --> 01:22:08,923
services. Thank you.

2689
01:22:08,923 --> 01:22:10,225
-- thank you james. Next we have

2690
01:22:10,225 --> 01:22:11,693
kate rubin, casey, andrea,

2691
01:22:11,693 --> 01:22:14,629
margaret, ben. Samuel, megan,

2692
01:22:14,629 --> 01:22:17,299
steph, aaron, ruby

2693
01:22:17,299 --> 01:22:19,701
-- my name is kate rubin. I am

2694
01:22:19,701 --> 01:22:22,304
the co-executive director of

2695
01:22:22,304 --> 01:22:24,306
seattle and I am co-facilitator

2696
01:22:24,306 --> 01:22:25,740
of the state house stay healthy

2697
01:22:25,740 --> 01:22:28,510
coalition, a group of about 40

2698
01:22:28,510 --> 01:22:29,210
organizations that have been

2699
01:22:29,210 --> 01:22:31,846
working on this bill. The

2700
01:22:31,846 --> 01:22:34,716
coalition supports amendments a

2701
01:22:34,716 --> 01:22:38,420
and e that would help renters

2702
01:22:38,420 --> 01:22:39,554
get some of the money back that

2703
01:22:39,554 --> 01:22:41,122
their landlords have taken from

2704
01:22:41,122 --> 01:22:43,858
them. And we are opposed to

2705
01:22:43,858 --> 01:22:46,461
amendments c and d. We think

2706
01:22:46,461 --> 01:22:48,630
that pet rent is exploitative.

2707
01:22:48,630 --> 01:22:51,800
there is no justification for

2708
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:53,935
charging renters $300 per year

2709
01:22:53,935 --> 01:22:59,374
plus inflation, and there is no

2710
01:22:59,374 --> 01:23:02,577
justification for opting renters

2711
01:23:02,577 --> 01:23:04,079
into optional fees. We urge you

2712
01:23:04,079 --> 01:23:06,081
to stand with renters and pass

2713
01:23:06,081 --> 01:23:07,415
this common sense bill. Thank

2714
01:23:07,415 --> 01:23:08,416
you.

2715
01:23:08,416 --> 01:23:09,417
-- thank you kate. Next, we have

2716
01:23:09,417 --> 01:23:11,286
casey, followed by andrea and

2717
01:23:11,286 --> 01:23:14,823
then margaret. Welcome.

2718
01:23:14,823 --> 01:23:16,358
-- thank you for having us this

2719
01:23:16,358 --> 01:23:17,525
afternoon. My name is casey. I

2720
01:23:17,525 --> 01:23:19,728
am a vice chair of the seattle

2721
01:23:19,728 --> 01:23:21,029
renters commission. I'm also a

2722
01:23:21,029 --> 01:23:23,231
member of the state house. Stay

2723
01:23:23,231 --> 01:23:25,000
healthy coalition and a former

2724
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:26,434
tenant attorney. I'm asking that

2725
01:23:26,434 --> 01:23:27,068
you support this junk fee ban,

2726
01:23:27,068 --> 01:23:29,304
with the exception of amendments

2727
01:23:29,304 --> 01:23:33,708
c and d. The fact that there's

2728
01:23:33,708 --> 01:23:35,510
even a cap that is being

2729
01:23:35,510 --> 01:23:36,644
proposed suggests that what

2730
01:23:36,644 --> 01:23:38,980
landlords have been charging,

2731
01:23:38,980 --> 01:23:40,248
they don't need, and frankly,

2732
01:23:40,248 --> 01:23:41,383
they don't need to charge it,

2733
01:23:41,383 --> 01:23:42,684
period. They've got security

2734
01:23:42,684 --> 01:23:44,252
deposits, they've got pet

2735
01:23:44,252 --> 01:23:46,020
deposits. Your landlord can go

2736
01:23:46,020 --> 01:23:47,555
after you if there's damage to

2737
01:23:47,555 --> 01:23:49,557
the unit. When you move out,

2738
01:23:49,557 --> 01:23:52,560
seattle renters spend hundreds,

2739
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:53,361
sometimes thousands of dollars

2740
01:23:53,361 --> 01:23:54,562
just to make sure that they can

2741
01:23:54,562 --> 01:23:56,297
keep their companion with them.

2742
01:23:56,297 --> 01:24:00,235
and for landlords, this is

2743
01:24:00,235 --> 01:24:01,569
dollars and cents. But for

2744
01:24:01,569 --> 01:24:02,203
renters, this is their home,

2745
01:24:02,203 --> 01:24:07,776
their family, and their support.

2746
01:24:07,776 --> 01:24:08,376
simply put, pet rent is not

2747
01:24:08,376 --> 01:24:12,313
fair. It's a scam. And we ask

2748
01:24:12,313 --> 01:24:13,214
that you pass this bill without

2749
01:24:13,214 --> 01:24:13,481
c and d.

2750
01:24:13,481 --> 01:24:16,151
-- thank you casey.

2751
01:24:16,151 --> 01:24:16,985
-- [applause]

2752
01:24:16,985 --> 01:24:20,655
-- andrea welcome. Followed by

2753
01:24:20,655 --> 01:24:24,959
margaret.

2754
01:24:24,959 --> 01:24:27,695
-- hello. My name is andrea and

2755
01:24:27,695 --> 01:24:29,998
I am I've been a resident of

2756
01:24:29,998 --> 01:24:32,734
renter of in seattle for 19

2757
01:24:32,734 --> 01:24:34,536
years. I'm also a proud dues

2758
01:24:34,536 --> 01:24:36,471
paying member of the carpenters

2759
01:24:36,471 --> 01:24:41,676
union for eight nine years now.

2760
01:24:41,676 --> 01:24:44,112
and I'm also a proud, longtime

2761
01:24:44,112 --> 01:24:45,914
single mom of a trans young

2762
01:24:45,914 --> 01:24:47,415
adult. As other people have

2763
01:24:47,415 --> 01:24:48,316
mentioned, junk fees are a way

2764
01:24:48,316 --> 01:24:50,151
for landlords to squeeze more

2765
01:24:50,151 --> 01:24:52,387
out of us tenants without being

2766
01:24:52,387 --> 01:24:54,022
subject to regulation. This

2767
01:24:54,022 --> 01:24:56,291
council has the power today to

2768
01:24:56,291 --> 01:25:01,129
end that. Starting now. As a

2769
01:25:01,129 --> 01:25:03,498
renter and mother of a beloved

2770
01:25:03,498 --> 01:25:06,100
trans person, our interests as

2771
01:25:06,100 --> 01:25:07,669
as people who are trans, who

2772
01:25:07,669 --> 01:25:09,070
love trans people and our

2773
01:25:09,070 --> 01:25:11,139
renters should not be pitted

2774
01:25:11,139 --> 01:25:13,007
against each other. So I urge

2775
01:25:13,007 --> 01:25:15,910
council to grant the proposed

2776
01:25:15,910 --> 01:25:18,379
funding for trans support now,

2777
01:25:18,379 --> 01:25:22,250
and to look for other ways that

2778
01:25:22,250 --> 01:25:23,918
don't. Add to housing costs for

2779
01:25:23,918 --> 01:25:25,820
working class people, cis and

2780
01:25:25,820 --> 01:25:26,154
trans. Thank

2781
01:25:26,154 --> 01:25:26,488
-- [applause]

2782
01:25:26,488 --> 01:25:28,690
-- you.

2783
01:25:28,690 --> 01:25:29,157
-- [applause]

2784
01:25:29,157 --> 01:25:29,491
-- thank you.

2785
01:25:29,491 --> 01:25:31,659
-- [applause]

2786
01:25:31,659 --> 01:25:35,063
-- followed by ben. Welcome. Hi,

2787
01:25:35,063 --> 01:25:35,430
I'm margaret.

2788
01:25:35,430 --> 01:25:37,165
-- shoreline from d five and

2789
01:25:37,165 --> 01:25:38,867
I'm here in support of

2790
01:25:38,867 --> 01:25:40,702
councilmember foster's bill to

2791
01:25:40,702 --> 01:25:42,504
prohibit unfair, unregulated

2792
01:25:42,504 --> 01:25:44,072
rental fees. So I'm a homeowner

2793
01:25:44,072 --> 01:25:45,907
now, but during the 20 years I

2794
01:25:45,907 --> 01:25:48,977
was a renter here, landlords did

2795
01:25:48,977 --> 01:25:50,278
not use these fees on us. This

2796
01:25:50,278 --> 01:25:54,182
is a recent unfair practice that

2797
01:25:54,182 --> 01:25:54,816
evades fair market competition

2798
01:25:54,816 --> 01:25:57,218
and renter protections.

2799
01:25:57,218 --> 01:25:59,387
unpredictable extra fees are a

2800
01:25:59,387 --> 01:26:01,589
significant factor in how people

2801
01:26:01,589 --> 01:26:03,558
get behind. Get an eviction and

2802
01:26:03,558 --> 01:26:05,727
become unhoused. This needs to

2803
01:26:05,727 --> 01:26:08,530
stop. Amendment c and d create

2804
01:26:08,530 --> 01:26:10,932
unjustifiable loopholes. Please

2805
01:26:10,932 --> 01:26:12,167
oppose them. Charging pet rent

2806
01:26:12,167 --> 01:26:13,968
is double or triple dipping

2807
01:26:13,968 --> 01:26:15,770
because renters already pay two

2808
01:26:15,770 --> 01:26:17,505
damage deposits. Insurance

2809
01:26:17,505 --> 01:26:18,573
should be an opt in, not a

2810
01:26:18,573 --> 01:26:21,609
confusing opt out. You know,

2811
01:26:21,609 --> 01:26:23,478
every type of business carries

2812
01:26:23,478 --> 01:26:24,112
liability insurance, including

2813
01:26:24,112 --> 01:26:26,314
my small business. We work those

2814
01:26:26,314 --> 01:26:29,217
costs into the price of our

2815
01:26:29,217 --> 01:26:30,351
goods and services. There's no

2816
01:26:30,351 --> 01:26:30,919
reason why rental property

2817
01:26:30,919 --> 01:26:31,920
businesses need to be any

2818
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:35,056
different. Lastly, there is no

2819
01:26:35,056 --> 01:26:36,858
room for hate in seattle. We

2820
01:26:36,858 --> 01:26:37,225
love our trans

2821
01:26:37,225 --> 01:26:37,559
-- [applause]

2822
01:26:37,559 --> 01:26:37,992
-- neighbors.

2823
01:26:37,992 --> 01:26:38,326
-- [applause]

2824
01:26:38,326 --> 01:26:38,860
-- please fund the budget

2825
01:26:38,860 --> 01:26:39,160
amendment.

2826
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:39,494
-- [applause]

2827
01:26:39,494 --> 01:26:39,961
-- thank you, thank.

2828
01:26:39,961 --> 01:26:41,563
-- you margaret. Next we have

2829
01:26:41,563 --> 01:26:45,466
ben followed by samuel. Megan,

2830
01:26:45,466 --> 01:26:47,602
stef, aaron. Welcome, ben.

2831
01:26:47,602 --> 01:26:50,371
-- hello. My name is ben wong

2832
01:26:50,371 --> 01:26:53,708
and I was born and raised in

2833
01:26:53,708 --> 01:26:55,210
seattle. And last 20 years been

2834
01:26:55,210 --> 01:26:59,113
living in queen anne. And I, I

2835
01:26:59,113 --> 01:27:02,283
came here to ask you to please

2836
01:27:02,283 --> 01:27:03,518
support the ban on the junk

2837
01:27:03,518 --> 01:27:09,490
fees. We need the transparency.

2838
01:27:09,490 --> 01:27:11,225
I I've been talking to some

2839
01:27:11,225 --> 01:27:17,165
people who. It seems mr. Kettle,

2840
01:27:17,165 --> 01:27:20,268
my representative, may have

2841
01:27:20,268 --> 01:27:22,770
introduced some amendments that

2842
01:27:22,770 --> 01:27:23,871
put loopholes in. As the

2843
01:27:23,871 --> 01:27:25,473
previous speaker said, and I'm.

2844
01:27:25,473 --> 01:27:28,509
I'm concerned that that might

2845
01:27:28,509 --> 01:27:31,613
that might weaken this this

2846
01:27:31,613 --> 01:27:32,247
whole ordinance. So I'm. So

2847
01:27:32,247 --> 01:27:37,218
please pass it. But without

2848
01:27:37,218 --> 01:27:37,785
without any amendments that

2849
01:27:37,785 --> 01:27:39,320
would weaken it, which I, I

2850
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:40,855
believe were c and d thank you.

2851
01:27:40,855 --> 01:27:43,725
-- thank you. Ben. Next we have

2852
01:27:43,725 --> 01:27:44,058
-- [applause]

2853
01:27:44,058 --> 01:27:46,694
-- samuel followed by megan

2854
01:27:46,694 --> 01:27:48,496
samuel aye samuel here. Samuel

2855
01:27:48,496 --> 01:27:53,268
wolfson hey, hey, sam

2856
01:27:53,268 --> 01:27:54,102
-- hi council. My name is sam

2857
01:27:54,102 --> 01:27:55,203
wolfson. I am a member of the

2858
01:27:55,203 --> 01:27:57,772
seattle renters commission and

2859
01:27:57,772 --> 01:27:59,040
I'm a renter in district three.

2860
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,542
I'm here to urge you to take

2861
01:28:01,542 --> 01:28:02,877
action against junk fees imposed

2862
01:28:02,877 --> 01:28:05,580
on renters in our city. These

2863
01:28:05,580 --> 01:28:09,884
fees allow landlords to

2864
01:28:09,884 --> 01:28:10,518
advertise artificially low rent

2865
01:28:10,518 --> 01:28:11,085
prices and hide the actual

2866
01:28:11,085 --> 01:28:11,686
monthly cost of tenancy. As

2867
01:28:11,686 --> 01:28:12,320
someone who is actively working

2868
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:14,622
on finding a new place to live.

2869
01:28:14,622 --> 01:28:15,123
the process is already

2870
01:28:15,123 --> 01:28:17,225
exhausting enough. The fact that

2871
01:28:17,225 --> 01:28:17,859
I can't even put in my budget

2872
01:28:17,859 --> 01:28:20,261
and trust that I can actually

2873
01:28:20,261 --> 01:28:20,995
afford a place without, you

2874
01:28:20,995 --> 01:28:22,563
know, going and digging in and

2875
01:28:22,563 --> 01:28:24,699
finding these random fees added

2876
01:28:24,699 --> 01:28:26,067
to every listing makes the whole

2877
01:28:26,067 --> 01:28:28,036
process even worse. This bill is

2878
01:28:28,036 --> 01:28:31,172
good for everybody. Landlords

2879
01:28:31,172 --> 01:28:31,839
too, I think, because it creates

2880
01:28:31,839 --> 01:28:32,774
mutual understanding of what

2881
01:28:32,774 --> 01:28:35,143
fees are actually justifiable,

2882
01:28:35,143 --> 01:28:36,144
like utilities and what needs to

2883
01:28:36,144 --> 01:28:39,247
just be included in the rent. It

2884
01:28:39,247 --> 01:28:39,814
reduces potential conflict

2885
01:28:39,814 --> 01:28:41,549
between tenants and landlords

2886
01:28:41,549 --> 01:28:42,016
and improves pricing

2887
01:28:42,016 --> 01:28:45,386
transparency. Please support

2888
01:28:45,386 --> 01:28:46,287
this bill, oppose amendment c

2889
01:28:46,287 --> 01:28:48,756
and d, which weaken it and

2890
01:28:48,756 --> 01:28:50,091
support amendments a and e,

2891
01:28:50,091 --> 01:28:52,193
which strengthen it. Thank you.

2892
01:28:52,193 --> 01:28:53,728
also, you should probably just

2893
01:28:53,728 --> 01:28:54,862
do whatever the opposite of the

2894
01:28:54,862 --> 01:28:59,801
republicans tell you to do.

2895
01:28:59,801 --> 01:29:00,168
-- [applause]

2896
01:29:00,168 --> 01:29:00,468
-- megan.

2897
01:29:00,468 --> 01:29:01,102
-- [applause]

2898
01:29:01,102 --> 01:29:04,138
-- is it me? Is it megan? Is it

2899
01:29:04,138 --> 01:29:04,806
megan? Megan? Megan. I'm sorry.

2900
01:29:04,806 --> 01:29:06,741
megan. Steph. Aaron. Ruby. Go

2901
01:29:06,741 --> 01:29:10,078
ahead

2902
01:29:10,078 --> 01:29:10,878
-- good afternoon,

2903
01:29:10,878 --> 01:29:12,180
councilmembers. My name is megan

2904
01:29:12,180 --> 01:29:13,848
nelson representing seattle

2905
01:29:13,848 --> 01:29:15,983
humane and a coalition of animal

2906
01:29:15,983 --> 01:29:19,320
welfare organizations. We

2907
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:21,889
support cb 121254. Because

2908
01:29:21,889 --> 01:29:22,890
unnecessary pet fees create real

2909
01:29:22,890 --> 01:29:24,692
barriers to housing and keep

2910
01:29:24,692 --> 01:29:26,194
families from staying together.

2911
01:29:26,194 --> 01:29:28,162
at seattle humane, about 15% of

2912
01:29:28,162 --> 01:29:29,030
pets surrendered to us are given

2913
01:29:29,030 --> 01:29:31,432
up due to housing related

2914
01:29:31,432 --> 01:29:32,934
challenges, and other shelters

2915
01:29:32,934 --> 01:29:35,136
and service providers report

2916
01:29:35,136 --> 01:29:37,138
even higher rates. Amendment c

2917
01:29:37,138 --> 01:29:38,473
would undermine that goal by

2918
01:29:38,473 --> 01:29:40,742
allowing up to $25 per month per

2919
01:29:40,742 --> 01:29:41,809
pet in pet rent, an arbitrary

2920
01:29:41,809 --> 01:29:43,678
charge not connected to actual

2921
01:29:43,678 --> 01:29:45,880
damage or costs. Property owners

2922
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:47,315
are already protected through

2923
01:29:47,315 --> 01:29:49,550
pet damage deposits. For many

2924
01:29:49,550 --> 01:29:50,318
renters, these added monthly

2925
01:29:50,318 --> 01:29:51,719
costs can be the difference

2926
01:29:51,719 --> 01:29:53,187
between keeping a pet and

2927
01:29:53,187 --> 01:29:56,057
surrendering one. We ask you to

2928
01:29:56,057 --> 01:29:57,859
support cb one two, one two,

2929
01:29:57,859 --> 01:29:59,827
five four and reject amendment

2930
01:29:59,827 --> 01:29:59,994
c.

2931
01:29:59,994 --> 01:30:01,796
-- thank you steph and aaron.

2932
01:30:01,796 --> 01:30:04,632
steph. Steph come on up. Steph.

2933
01:30:04,632 --> 01:30:05,967
steph. And then we have aaron

2934
01:30:05,967 --> 01:30:09,570
over here. And then.

2935
01:30:09,570 --> 01:30:10,738
-- thank you council. Hi there.

2936
01:30:10,738 --> 01:30:12,306
I'm steph hagerty a renter in

2937
01:30:12,306 --> 01:30:13,341
seattle. And I'm here on behalf

2938
01:30:13,341 --> 01:30:16,277
of myself and my friends who are

2939
01:30:16,277 --> 01:30:17,812
teachers, nurses, service

2940
01:30:17,812 --> 01:30:19,080
workers and seattle who can't be

2941
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:19,680
here today because trying to

2942
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:20,381
work to pay the bills, pay the

2943
01:30:20,381 --> 01:30:21,949
rent, pay the junk fees. So

2944
01:30:21,949 --> 01:30:23,151
please support the junk fees,

2945
01:30:23,151 --> 01:30:24,952
ban and reject amendments c and

2946
01:30:24,952 --> 01:30:27,989
d, which weaken it. Just an

2947
01:30:27,989 --> 01:30:29,023
example. One of my friends is a

2948
01:30:29,023 --> 01:30:30,758
community mental health

2949
01:30:30,758 --> 01:30:31,659
therapist. Very low, makes very

2950
01:30:31,659 --> 01:30:34,695
low income, is charged $250 fee

2951
01:30:34,695 --> 01:30:38,065
a year just to renew the lease

2952
01:30:38,065 --> 01:30:38,866
$60 a month fee to just pay the

2953
01:30:38,866 --> 01:30:40,635
rent on the landlord's portal.

2954
01:30:40,635 --> 01:30:42,470
landlord business expense list

2955
01:30:42,470 --> 01:30:45,173
goes on and on, and the stress

2956
01:30:45,173 --> 01:30:45,740
of increasing rent and fees

2957
01:30:45,740 --> 01:30:46,974
having to move to find an

2958
01:30:46,974 --> 01:30:48,309
affordable place to live impacts

2959
01:30:48,309 --> 01:30:50,211
our ability to provide care in

2960
01:30:50,211 --> 01:30:51,612
the community. Amendment c, as

2961
01:30:51,612 --> 01:30:53,080
others have spoken about,

2962
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:54,816
discriminates against pet

2963
01:30:54,816 --> 01:30:56,350
owners. 300 bucks a year for

2964
01:30:56,350 --> 01:30:57,985
lower income folks may mean the

2965
01:30:57,985 --> 01:30:59,587
difference between paying rent

2966
01:30:59,587 --> 01:31:01,923
and being housed with their

2967
01:31:01,923 --> 01:31:02,523
animal companions and service

2968
01:31:02,523 --> 01:31:03,224
animals. So please keep my

2969
01:31:03,224 --> 01:31:05,226
friends housed families

2970
01:31:05,226 --> 01:31:07,094
together. Renters are

2971
01:31:07,094 --> 01:31:07,695
increasingly your voters and

2972
01:31:07,695 --> 01:31:08,296
constituents. Thanks a lot.

2973
01:31:08,296 --> 01:31:09,163
please support our trans

2974
01:31:09,163 --> 01:31:09,530
community. Too.

2975
01:31:09,530 --> 01:31:10,865
-- thank you, thank you. Seth.

2976
01:31:10,865 --> 01:31:11,199
-- [applause]

2977
01:31:11,199 --> 01:31:19,106
-- aaron, welcome.

2978
01:31:19,106 --> 01:31:19,674
-- good afternoon, council

2979
01:31:19,674 --> 01:31:20,775
president and councilmembers.

2980
01:31:20,775 --> 01:31:22,343
aaron tullock, legislative aide

2981
01:31:22,343 --> 01:31:23,478
with fms global strategy,

2982
01:31:23,478 --> 01:31:24,579
speaking on behalf of the we

2983
01:31:24,579 --> 01:31:26,747
build back better alliance. We

2984
01:31:26,747 --> 01:31:28,583
support cb 121254 amendments a

2985
01:31:28,583 --> 01:31:29,684
and e as amendment, and we

2986
01:31:29,684 --> 01:31:31,586
appreciate councilmember

2987
01:31:31,586 --> 01:31:33,888
foster's leadership. We also

2988
01:31:33,888 --> 01:31:34,455
value our relationship with

2989
01:31:34,455 --> 01:31:35,089
councilmember kettle. However,

2990
01:31:35,089 --> 01:31:36,891
we join our coalition partners

2991
01:31:36,891 --> 01:31:38,292
in opposing amendment c and d on

2992
01:31:38,292 --> 01:31:39,760
pet rent. If a tenant has

2993
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:41,262
already paid a security or pet

2994
01:31:41,262 --> 01:31:43,865
deposit to cover potential

2995
01:31:43,865 --> 01:31:44,465
damages, an additional $25 a

2996
01:31:44,465 --> 01:31:46,567
month fee, $300 a year per pet,

2997
01:31:46,567 --> 01:31:47,802
whether any damages occur or

2998
01:31:47,802 --> 01:31:49,604
not. For rentals already

2999
01:31:49,604 --> 01:31:52,406
struggling in seattle's housing

3000
01:31:52,406 --> 01:31:52,974
costs, that is significant,

3001
01:31:52,974 --> 01:31:54,275
black households are also more

3002
01:31:54,275 --> 01:31:56,110
likely to rent and experience

3003
01:31:56,110 --> 01:31:57,979
housing cost burdens, so

3004
01:31:57,979 --> 01:31:58,613
additional reoccurring fees can

3005
01:31:58,613 --> 01:32:00,615
deepen existing disparities on

3006
01:32:00,615 --> 01:32:01,249
renter insurance. Tenants should

3007
01:32:01,249 --> 01:32:03,384
be able to choose any qualified

3008
01:32:03,384 --> 01:32:05,620
insurer and policy that meets

3009
01:32:05,620 --> 01:32:06,220
properties owners. Reasonable

3010
01:32:06,220 --> 01:32:09,123
coverage requirements that

3011
01:32:09,123 --> 01:32:10,391
protects consumers choice,

3012
01:32:10,391 --> 01:32:11,025
competition and affordability.

3013
01:32:11,025 --> 01:32:12,360
if the concern is damage,

3014
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:14,161
address damage if the concern is

3015
01:32:14,161 --> 01:32:14,795
insurance, establish reasonable

3016
01:32:14,795 --> 01:32:15,830
coverage standards. Neither

3017
01:32:15,830 --> 01:32:17,598
should become the pathway for

3018
01:32:17,598 --> 01:32:18,733
unnecessary recurring costs.

3019
01:32:18,733 --> 01:32:21,202
protect housing stability,

3020
01:32:21,202 --> 01:32:21,836
preserve consumer choice, reject

3021
01:32:21,836 --> 01:32:22,103
c and d.

3022
01:32:22,103 --> 01:32:23,704
-- thank you. Thank you aaron.

3023
01:32:23,704 --> 01:32:25,406
next we have ruth. Did I say

3024
01:32:25,406 --> 01:32:28,609
your name right? Ruby root root.

3025
01:32:28,609 --> 01:32:29,377
-- councilmember strauss.

3026
01:32:29,377 --> 01:32:30,077
-- ruby ruby ruby. Before you

3027
01:32:30,077 --> 01:32:31,012
go, ruby, I'm going to say the

3028
01:32:31,012 --> 01:32:32,980
next ten people. So just give me

3029
01:32:32,980 --> 01:32:35,950
one second. We have michelle. So

3030
01:32:35,950 --> 01:32:38,953
just all y'all are in the queue.

3031
01:32:38,953 --> 01:32:42,623
michelle, will, simon, catherine

3032
01:32:42,623 --> 01:32:44,458
purple six. Lou. Steve. David

3033
01:32:44,458 --> 01:32:47,428
hill, amanda and lee. You all

3034
01:32:47,428 --> 01:32:49,230
are next. So that's michelle,

3035
01:32:49,230 --> 01:32:50,131
will, simon, catherine, purple

3036
01:32:50,131 --> 01:32:53,534
six, lou, steve, david hill,

3037
01:32:53,534 --> 01:32:56,270
amanda lin and lee ruby. You are

3038
01:32:56,270 --> 01:32:56,604
up. Welcome.

3039
01:32:56,604 --> 01:32:57,038
-- thank you.

3040
01:32:57,038 --> 01:32:58,673
-- thank you, councilmembers for

3041
01:32:58,673 --> 01:33:01,242
your time today. My name is ruby

3042
01:33:01,242 --> 01:33:02,476
arora and I'm here on behalf of

3043
01:33:02,476 --> 01:33:04,178
woodland park zoo to urge you to

3044
01:33:04,178 --> 01:33:05,613
adopt the supplemental budget

3045
01:33:05,613 --> 01:33:06,480
ordinance. I'd first like to

3046
01:33:06,480 --> 01:33:08,549
thank councilmember kettle for

3047
01:33:08,549 --> 01:33:09,850
your attention to the issue of

3048
01:33:09,850 --> 01:33:12,720
coyote coexistence in seattle.

3049
01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:14,288
we are grateful for your

3050
01:33:14,288 --> 01:33:15,756
sponsorship with this important

3051
01:33:15,756 --> 01:33:17,758
work. We also want to thank

3052
01:33:17,758 --> 01:33:19,493
committee chair strauss and the

3053
01:33:19,493 --> 01:33:21,595
finance committee for members of

3054
01:33:21,595 --> 01:33:22,063
their support in the

3055
01:33:22,063 --> 01:33:25,633
supplemental budget, as well.

3056
01:33:25,633 --> 01:33:26,167
this ordinance includes a

3057
01:33:26,167 --> 01:33:28,369
reasonable one time funding

3058
01:33:28,369 --> 01:33:29,570
15,000 to cover zoo staff. Time

3059
01:33:29,570 --> 01:33:31,672
to develop a coyote coexistence

3060
01:33:31,672 --> 01:33:35,476
plan for the city with our

3061
01:33:35,476 --> 01:33:37,011
mission to save wildlife and

3062
01:33:37,011 --> 01:33:38,346
inspire conservation, we are

3063
01:33:38,346 --> 01:33:39,947
well positioned to take the lead

3064
01:33:39,947 --> 01:33:41,215
on city wide, coordinated

3065
01:33:41,215 --> 01:33:44,752
approach to peaceful coyote

3066
01:33:44,752 --> 01:33:45,753
coexistence. The plan would be

3067
01:33:45,753 --> 01:33:47,722
developed by our resident

3068
01:33:47,722 --> 01:33:49,056
carnivore experts, who will

3069
01:33:49,056 --> 01:33:50,925
review best practices and work

3070
01:33:50,925 --> 01:33:52,226
with key stakeholders to

3071
01:33:52,226 --> 01:33:53,561
ultimately create a plan that

3072
01:33:53,561 --> 01:33:55,496
could be adopted by the city in

3073
01:33:55,496 --> 01:33:58,799
2027. Thank you so much for your

3074
01:33:58,799 --> 01:33:59,000
time.

3075
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:02,036
-- thank you.

3076
01:34:02,036 --> 01:34:02,670
-- council president has asked

3077
01:34:02,670 --> 01:34:04,572
me to read some of the next

3078
01:34:04,572 --> 01:34:06,907
names. Michelle kim, please.

3079
01:34:06,907 --> 01:34:12,246
-- hi, I'm michelle kim, I live

3080
01:34:12,246 --> 01:34:13,748
on north beacon hill. I support.

3081
01:34:13,748 --> 01:34:16,350
eddie lin's proposal a to fund

3082
01:34:16,350 --> 01:34:18,686
neighborhood coordinators to

3083
01:34:18,686 --> 01:34:20,321
help suffering people on the

3084
01:34:20,321 --> 01:34:21,689
streets in little saigon and

3085
01:34:21,689 --> 01:34:24,658
north beacon hill. I am a cna

3086
01:34:24,658 --> 01:34:31,465
and I work with my elders. I am

3087
01:34:31,465 --> 01:34:32,366
also autistic. Seattle is a

3088
01:34:32,366 --> 01:34:37,805
place I am thriving and I know

3089
01:34:37,805 --> 01:34:42,910
the only reason I am thriving is

3090
01:34:42,910 --> 01:34:44,745
because of luck. I could easily

3091
01:34:44,745 --> 01:34:46,580
be one of the people struggling

3092
01:34:46,580 --> 01:34:49,083
in these areas, but I have had

3093
01:34:49,083 --> 01:34:51,218
so many serendipitous moments in

3094
01:34:51,218 --> 01:34:53,921
my life that have led me to

3095
01:34:53,921 --> 01:34:56,557
figure out how to heal eddie lin

3096
01:34:56,557 --> 01:35:00,394
is on the right track. This is

3097
01:35:00,394 --> 01:35:03,197
the tip of the iceberg. I would

3098
01:35:03,197 --> 01:35:04,899
love to see seattle become a

3099
01:35:04,899 --> 01:35:07,668
healing city. That would be

3100
01:35:07,668 --> 01:35:09,370
something I would be thrilled to

3101
01:35:09,370 --> 01:35:11,806
pay taxes for. Thank you.

3102
01:35:11,806 --> 01:35:12,073
-- thank

3103
01:35:12,073 --> 01:35:12,406
-- [applause]

3104
01:35:12,406 --> 01:35:17,778
-- you bill will.

3105
01:35:17,778 --> 01:35:21,048
-- will. Hi everyone. First off,

3106
01:35:21,048 --> 01:35:22,183
thanks for all the work you're

3107
01:35:22,183 --> 01:35:23,217
doing today. It's really does

3108
01:35:23,217 --> 01:35:25,286
feel like the people's house

3109
01:35:25,286 --> 01:35:26,087
today hearing everyone, whether

3110
01:35:26,087 --> 01:35:27,221
you agree with them or not.

3111
01:35:27,221 --> 01:35:28,322
it's really important work. So

3112
01:35:28,322 --> 01:35:29,356
I'm will oberst I'm a grocery

3113
01:35:29,356 --> 01:35:32,159
store worker and a restaurant

3114
01:35:32,159 --> 01:35:34,562
worker and a renter in district

3115
01:35:34,562 --> 01:35:35,763
three. And as of recently, now a

3116
01:35:35,763 --> 01:35:37,731
phd student studying political

3117
01:35:37,731 --> 01:35:39,166
science with a un program. So

3118
01:35:39,166 --> 01:35:39,900
I'm looking forward to working

3119
01:35:39,900 --> 01:35:43,671
with some of you on that later.

3120
01:35:43,671 --> 01:35:44,405
but I'm here to support the ban

3121
01:35:44,405 --> 01:35:48,542
of junk fees. I think that

3122
01:35:48,542 --> 01:35:49,076
transparency and fees is

3123
01:35:49,076 --> 01:35:50,511
something that we really need in

3124
01:35:50,511 --> 01:35:54,148
the city and in life in general.

3125
01:35:54,148 --> 01:35:56,383
so thank you all again for your

3126
01:35:56,383 --> 01:35:58,085
work and have a great day.

3127
01:35:58,085 --> 01:35:58,319
cheers.

3128
01:35:58,319 --> 01:35:58,652
-- [applause]

3129
01:35:58,652 --> 01:36:00,755
-- thank you.

3130
01:36:00,755 --> 01:36:04,725
-- [applause]

3131
01:36:04,725 --> 01:36:07,294
-- okay. Simon thornton, simon.

3132
01:36:07,294 --> 01:36:08,996
yeah. Go, simon.

3133
01:36:08,996 --> 01:36:09,597
-- hello, councilmembers. My

3134
01:36:09,597 --> 01:36:11,165
name is simon thornton. I'm here

3135
01:36:11,165 --> 01:36:12,867
to ask you to please support

3136
01:36:12,867 --> 01:36:16,237
amendment a to the supplemental

3137
01:36:16,237 --> 01:36:16,837
budget. The north beacon hill

3138
01:36:16,837 --> 01:36:17,471
and north rainier areas are in

3139
01:36:17,471 --> 01:36:18,205
desperate need of service

3140
01:36:18,205 --> 01:36:20,541
coordination. Our communities

3141
01:36:20,541 --> 01:36:21,175
need relief now, and we are so

3142
01:36:21,175 --> 01:36:22,977
grateful that councilmembers lin

3143
01:36:22,977 --> 01:36:24,512
and foster have engaged with our

3144
01:36:24,512 --> 01:36:25,913
communities and are finding ways

3145
01:36:25,913 --> 01:36:26,680
to address these issues with

3146
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:28,716
urgency. They deserve a common

3147
01:36:28,716 --> 01:36:30,718
refrain I've heard during these

3148
01:36:30,718 --> 01:36:32,486
meetings is that we don't want

3149
01:36:32,486 --> 01:36:34,321
more meetings. We want actions.

3150
01:36:34,321 --> 01:36:35,789
this amendment is the action

3151
01:36:35,789 --> 01:36:37,191
that our community has been

3152
01:36:37,191 --> 01:36:37,892
begging for, and so I urge the

3153
01:36:37,892 --> 01:36:40,661
rest of council to please vote

3154
01:36:40,661 --> 01:36:42,029
yes on amendment a and grant our

3155
01:36:42,029 --> 01:36:42,897
neighborhood the relief it

3156
01:36:42,897 --> 01:36:43,864
deserves. Thank you.

3157
01:36:43,864 --> 01:36:44,798
-- thank you. Simon. Next we

3158
01:36:44,798 --> 01:36:46,333
have catherine, followed by

3159
01:36:46,333 --> 01:36:49,703
purple six. Welcome, catherine.

3160
01:36:49,703 --> 01:36:51,972
-- hi. I'm a member of beacon

3161
01:36:51,972 --> 01:36:53,807
hill. I'm a resident of beacon

3162
01:36:53,807 --> 01:36:54,575
hill, and I thought there was

3163
01:36:54,575 --> 01:36:55,976
going to be a lot of people

3164
01:36:55,976 --> 01:36:57,311
talking about this. So I

3165
01:36:57,311 --> 01:36:59,079
prepared a statement that's just

3166
01:36:59,079 --> 01:37:01,248
very focused and just a snapshot

3167
01:37:01,248 --> 01:37:04,451
of the area. I'm a bicycle

3168
01:37:04,451 --> 01:37:05,386
commuter commuter, and I'm

3169
01:37:05,386 --> 01:37:07,888
always trying to get all of my

3170
01:37:07,888 --> 01:37:08,989
community to take their bike

3171
01:37:08,989 --> 01:37:11,258
whenever they can. And if you're

3172
01:37:11,258 --> 01:37:12,526
coming from beacon hill to go

3173
01:37:12,526 --> 01:37:14,962
anywhere in the city, you have

3174
01:37:14,962 --> 01:37:16,597
to go through the north beacon

3175
01:37:16,597 --> 01:37:18,098
hill, little saigon area, and it

3176
01:37:18,098 --> 01:37:22,303
is absolute chaos. And to go

3177
01:37:22,303 --> 01:37:23,971
through there unarmed by a car

3178
01:37:23,971 --> 01:37:25,606
around me, and to give just the

3179
01:37:25,606 --> 01:37:28,876
little snapshot that I prepared

3180
01:37:28,876 --> 01:37:30,678
for today, just the other night,

3181
01:37:30,678 --> 01:37:31,912
I was going through there and

3182
01:37:31,912 --> 01:37:33,948
there was a guy who just

3183
01:37:33,948 --> 01:37:35,583
suddenly picked up a giant pipe

3184
01:37:35,583 --> 01:37:37,484
from the road and just started

3185
01:37:37,484 --> 01:37:38,752
swinging it over his head so

3186
01:37:38,752 --> 01:37:40,854
that we had to veer way out of

3187
01:37:40,854 --> 01:37:43,023
the way on our bicycles, and

3188
01:37:43,023 --> 01:37:44,525
then a police car pulled right

3189
01:37:44,525 --> 01:37:45,693
in front of me, and then I had

3190
01:37:45,693 --> 01:37:48,429
to swerve around that because he

3191
01:37:48,429 --> 01:37:50,731
was dealing with other chaos.

3192
01:37:50,731 --> 01:37:52,166
the whole area is dangerous, and

3193
01:37:52,166 --> 01:37:53,033
I'm just a small person going

3194
01:37:53,033 --> 01:37:53,567
through on my bike. The

3195
01:37:53,567 --> 01:37:56,136
residents and the business

3196
01:37:56,136 --> 01:37:57,238
owners deserve our attention

3197
01:37:57,238 --> 01:37:59,306
from the city and our resources.

3198
01:37:59,306 --> 01:38:00,708
-- thank you catherine. Thank

3199
01:38:00,708 --> 01:38:02,142
you. Catherine. Next we have.

3200
01:38:02,142 --> 01:38:04,345
thank you so much. Next we have

3201
01:38:04,345 --> 01:38:05,179
purple six, followed by lou.

3202
01:38:05,179 --> 01:38:06,981
welcome. Purple six. Lou, steve,

3203
01:38:06,981 --> 01:38:08,816
david, amanda lee.

3204
01:38:08,816 --> 01:38:10,718
-- hello. I'm here to talk

3205
01:38:10,718 --> 01:38:12,186
about the trans refugee crisis.

3206
01:38:12,186 --> 01:38:13,787
I want to thank the council for

3207
01:38:13,787 --> 01:38:15,489
doing the barest minimum of

3208
01:38:15,489 --> 01:38:17,758
effort in addressing this and

3209
01:38:17,758 --> 01:38:19,994
earmarking $300,000. That is

3210
01:38:19,994 --> 01:38:20,694
something that should have been

3211
01:38:20,694 --> 01:38:22,796
done a year ago. But obviously,

3212
01:38:22,796 --> 01:38:23,430
the administration at the time

3213
01:38:23,430 --> 01:38:25,266
was not amicable to such

3214
01:38:25,266 --> 01:38:27,768
proceedings. I will say that

3215
01:38:27,768 --> 01:38:30,604
this is peanut money. This is

3216
01:38:30,604 --> 01:38:31,605
such a small amount of money for

3217
01:38:31,605 --> 01:38:33,240
this city. You are spending

3218
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:35,743
millions to expand flock

3219
01:38:35,743 --> 01:38:39,113
cameras. And in that respect,

3220
01:38:39,113 --> 01:38:40,347
anyone here who votes against

3221
01:38:40,347 --> 01:38:41,482
such a small amount of money,

3222
01:38:41,482 --> 01:38:43,250
the peanut money that my

3223
01:38:43,250 --> 01:38:44,618
community needs, anyone who

3224
01:38:44,618 --> 01:38:45,753
votes against it is signaling

3225
01:38:45,753 --> 01:38:47,254
strongly that they are on the

3226
01:38:47,254 --> 01:38:48,789
side of atrocity. They are on

3227
01:38:48,789 --> 01:38:50,758
the side of bigotry. They are on

3228
01:38:50,758 --> 01:38:53,294
the side of the people who are

3229
01:38:53,294 --> 01:38:53,794
brandishing guns on my

3230
01:38:53,794 --> 01:38:56,297
community. They are on the side

3231
01:38:56,297 --> 01:38:58,565
of a visionary that this country

3232
01:38:58,565 --> 01:38:59,833
should have extinguished a long

3233
01:38:59,833 --> 01:39:00,601
time ago. So I want you to

3234
01:39:00,601 --> 01:39:01,702
understand that as public

3235
01:39:01,702 --> 01:39:04,438
servants, we will hold you

3236
01:39:04,438 --> 01:39:04,772
accountable.

3237
01:39:04,772 --> 01:39:06,206
-- so next we have lou, followed

3238
01:39:06,206 --> 01:39:09,209
by steve, david, amanda and lee.

3239
01:39:09,209 --> 01:39:09,476
welcome.

3240
01:39:09,476 --> 01:39:10,744
-- we've heard.

3241
01:39:10,744 --> 01:39:12,713
-- some noise of the right

3242
01:39:12,713 --> 01:39:13,847
wingers that are against trans

3243
01:39:13,847 --> 01:39:16,283
refugees, I guess. I guess

3244
01:39:16,283 --> 01:39:18,185
they're threatened by funding

3245
01:39:18,185 --> 01:39:23,324
for care, for life, for housing

3246
01:39:23,324 --> 01:39:26,427
because we're fleeing their

3247
01:39:26,427 --> 01:39:28,228
culture of death. We're giving

3248
01:39:28,228 --> 01:39:31,165
our community space to breathe.

3249
01:39:31,165 --> 01:39:33,434
they aren't the ones taking

3250
01:39:33,434 --> 01:39:35,836
refugees into their homes.

3251
01:39:35,836 --> 01:39:37,771
they're not giving refugees an

3252
01:39:37,771 --> 01:39:40,240
actual future. They're not

3253
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:40,841
talking people down from the

3254
01:39:40,841 --> 01:39:43,077
suicide that they've invoked. We

3255
01:39:43,077 --> 01:39:45,379
are saving people's lives. What

3256
01:39:45,379 --> 01:39:47,548
do they have to show? What do we

3257
01:39:47,548 --> 01:39:50,250
have to show if we are

3258
01:39:50,250 --> 01:39:55,622
intimidated by their noise? The

3259
01:39:55,622 --> 01:39:57,624
news is scary, but hesitance in

3260
01:39:57,624 --> 01:39:58,726
this moment is death, and the

3261
01:39:58,726 --> 01:40:02,229
way to cut through it is action

3262
01:40:02,229 --> 01:40:02,796
with our voices resonating

3263
01:40:02,796 --> 01:40:06,200
together and saying, no trump.

3264
01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:10,270
we choose life, fund. The trans

3265
01:40:10,270 --> 01:40:12,206
refugees call on the mayor to

3266
01:40:12,206 --> 01:40:14,408
declare a state of emergency and

3267
01:40:14,408 --> 01:40:16,810
don't have loopholes.

3268
01:40:16,810 --> 01:40:18,245
-- thank you lou. Next we have

3269
01:40:18,245 --> 01:40:20,147
steve, followed by david, amanda

3270
01:40:20,147 --> 01:40:23,484
lee. Welcome, steve. David,

3271
01:40:23,484 --> 01:40:23,817
-- [applause]

3272
01:40:23,817 --> 01:40:25,185
-- amanda lee, steve, david,

3273
01:40:25,185 --> 01:40:27,588
amanda lee.

3274
01:40:27,588 --> 01:40:28,655
-- I'm next right, steve. Thank

3275
01:40:28,655 --> 01:40:30,691
god. Okay.

3276
01:40:30,691 --> 01:40:30,991
-- got you.

3277
01:40:30,991 --> 01:40:33,994
-- the. Hi, my name is steve and

3278
01:40:33,994 --> 01:40:35,896
I have lived here in washington

3279
01:40:35,896 --> 01:40:38,966
my entire life. I have friends,

3280
01:40:38,966 --> 01:40:40,467
close family that are queer,

3281
01:40:40,467 --> 01:40:45,372
trans, et cetera. And it's very

3282
01:40:45,372 --> 01:40:46,607
just regular inside my life and

3283
01:40:46,607 --> 01:40:47,608
inside of their lives as well.

3284
01:40:47,608 --> 01:40:49,510
but outside of just a couple of

3285
01:40:49,510 --> 01:40:51,612
states that I can count, it's

3286
01:40:51,612 --> 01:40:56,050
treated like a much bigger deal.

3287
01:40:56,050 --> 01:40:57,684
strangely, folks, young folks

3288
01:40:57,684 --> 01:40:58,652
getting kicked out of their

3289
01:40:58,652 --> 01:41:00,721
house, the house they grew up

3290
01:41:00,721 --> 01:41:01,321
in, getting kicked out of the

3291
01:41:01,321 --> 01:41:04,158
state that they grew up in,

3292
01:41:04,158 --> 01:41:05,192
having to restart their life or

3293
01:41:05,192 --> 01:41:05,826
just start their life at all.

3294
01:41:05,826 --> 01:41:07,661
because a lot of them, you know,

3295
01:41:07,661 --> 01:41:08,762
they face this kind of stuff

3296
01:41:08,762 --> 01:41:10,764
when they're much younger. Of

3297
01:41:10,764 --> 01:41:11,532
course, they're coming to a

3298
01:41:11,532 --> 01:41:16,136
place like this, you know,

3299
01:41:16,136 --> 01:41:16,770
that's it seems like it's

3300
01:41:16,770 --> 01:41:17,404
going to be a good, respectful

3301
01:41:17,404 --> 01:41:18,005
environment for them. And I

3302
01:41:18,005 --> 01:41:20,107
imagine that you guys, you know,

3303
01:41:20,107 --> 01:41:21,508
love this community. That's why

3304
01:41:21,508 --> 01:41:28,449
you got the jobs. Yeah but they

3305
01:41:28,449 --> 01:41:29,983
don't have anything right now.

3306
01:41:29,983 --> 01:41:32,086
all they have is themselves and

3307
01:41:32,086 --> 01:41:34,354
they deserve so much more. Thank

3308
01:41:34,354 --> 01:41:35,022
you.

3309
01:41:35,022 --> 01:41:36,523
-- thank you steve. Next we have

3310
01:41:36,523 --> 01:41:39,393
david, followed by amanda and

3311
01:41:39,393 --> 01:41:41,195
lee, david, amanda and lee,

3312
01:41:41,195 --> 01:41:42,930
david, amanda, david hill is

3313
01:41:42,930 --> 01:41:45,466
david hill here? Okay. Amanda

3314
01:41:45,466 --> 01:41:46,433
and lee. David. Amanda lee. Go

3315
01:41:46,433 --> 01:41:48,335
ahead.

3316
01:41:48,335 --> 01:41:49,069
-- good afternoon council. My

3317
01:41:49,069 --> 01:41:50,971
name is david hill. I live in

3318
01:41:50,971 --> 01:41:52,606
district four. I'm the treasurer

3319
01:41:52,606 --> 01:41:55,109
of the transit riders union tru

3320
01:41:55,109 --> 01:41:57,778
strongly supports council bill

3321
01:41:57,778 --> 01:41:58,412
121254 banning rental junk fees

3322
01:41:58,412 --> 01:42:00,380
as introduced. Housing stability

3323
01:42:00,380 --> 01:42:02,015
is a critical component of

3324
01:42:02,015 --> 01:42:03,150
transit justice, and corporate

3325
01:42:03,150 --> 01:42:05,819
junk fees are a backdoor way for

3326
01:42:05,819 --> 01:42:08,222
property managers to exploit low

3327
01:42:08,222 --> 01:42:10,657
housing supply and bypass our

3328
01:42:10,657 --> 01:42:11,258
city's renter protections.

3329
01:42:11,258 --> 01:42:12,759
again, I urge you to pass the

3330
01:42:12,759 --> 01:42:13,393
bill as written and also to

3331
01:42:13,393 --> 01:42:16,430
reject amendment. C. This

3332
01:42:16,430 --> 01:42:16,964
amendment weaponizes the

3333
01:42:16,964 --> 01:42:18,565
legislative process to protect a

3334
01:42:18,565 --> 01:42:21,768
corporate cash grab, pet rent.

3335
01:42:21,768 --> 01:42:24,238
since 2018, I've paid $4,500 in

3336
01:42:24,238 --> 01:42:27,274
pet rent for my dog maggie. That

3337
01:42:27,274 --> 01:42:28,642
is over $600 a year for a dog

3338
01:42:28,642 --> 01:42:30,310
that doesn't use building

3339
01:42:30,310 --> 01:42:32,446
amenities or accrue maintenance

3340
01:42:32,446 --> 01:42:33,480
costs, that $4,500 I could have

3341
01:42:33,480 --> 01:42:35,582
spent in our local economy.

3342
01:42:35,582 --> 01:42:37,784
instead of padding my corporate

3343
01:42:37,784 --> 01:42:41,054
landlords balance sheets reject

3344
01:42:41,054 --> 01:42:42,456
amendment c penalty discounts

3345
01:42:42,456 --> 01:42:45,192
for bad actors, pass a strong

3346
01:42:45,192 --> 01:42:45,792
junk fees ban and protect our

3347
01:42:45,792 --> 01:42:46,193
trans neighbors.

3348
01:42:46,193 --> 01:42:46,827
-- thank you. Thank you david.

3349
01:42:46,827 --> 01:42:48,695
next we have amanda, followed by

3350
01:42:48,695 --> 01:42:51,965
lee. Is amanda here? Followed by

3351
01:42:51,965 --> 01:42:52,299
lee? Welcome.

3352
01:42:52,299 --> 01:42:54,067
-- hi councilmembers. My name is

3353
01:42:54,067 --> 01:42:55,402
amanda lynn. I'm an organizer

3354
01:42:55,402 --> 01:42:57,004
for how's our neighbors? I'm

3355
01:42:57,004 --> 01:42:58,805
also a renter in capitol hill.

3356
01:42:58,805 --> 01:43:00,607
landlords insist junk fees have

3357
01:43:00,607 --> 01:43:01,241
a direct correlation with costs.

3358
01:43:01,241 --> 01:43:02,042
the last few months I've

3359
01:43:02,042 --> 01:43:04,077
listened to comment after

3360
01:43:04,077 --> 01:43:05,345
comments about their costs. I've

3361
01:43:05,345 --> 01:43:07,147
also spent years working in

3362
01:43:07,147 --> 01:43:08,649
affordable housing and community

3363
01:43:08,649 --> 01:43:09,683
development. I know insurance,

3364
01:43:09,683 --> 01:43:10,317
maintenance and operating costs

3365
01:43:10,317 --> 01:43:11,818
have gone up, but that's not the

3366
01:43:11,818 --> 01:43:13,487
whole story. The rental housing

3367
01:43:13,487 --> 01:43:14,888
industry tells a very different

3368
01:43:14,888 --> 01:43:16,123
story to investors than it tells

3369
01:43:16,123 --> 01:43:18,559
to its renters. Its own market

3370
01:43:18,559 --> 01:43:19,359
reports show property income is

3371
01:43:19,359 --> 01:43:22,095
still growing, and they

3372
01:43:22,095 --> 01:43:22,663
celebrate the fact that new

3373
01:43:22,663 --> 01:43:23,530
construction has fallen by

3374
01:43:23,530 --> 01:43:24,998
nearly 60% because it means even

3375
01:43:24,998 --> 01:43:26,466
greater pricing power for

3376
01:43:26,466 --> 01:43:27,100
existing landlords in the years

3377
01:43:27,100 --> 01:43:29,136
ahead. That's before we even

3378
01:43:29,136 --> 01:43:31,405
start discussing how much their

3379
01:43:31,405 --> 01:43:32,806
assets and overall wealth are

3380
01:43:32,806 --> 01:43:34,474
appreciating. That's far from an

3381
01:43:34,474 --> 01:43:35,976
industry on the brink, but the

3382
01:43:35,976 --> 01:43:37,144
working class citizens of this

3383
01:43:37,144 --> 01:43:38,512
city have been on the brink for

3384
01:43:38,512 --> 01:43:39,212
years, and too many of us are

3385
01:43:39,212 --> 01:43:41,114
falling off the cliff. That's

3386
01:43:41,114 --> 01:43:42,783
why these junk fees matter.

3387
01:43:42,783 --> 01:43:43,884
every mandatory fee is one more

3388
01:43:43,884 --> 01:43:45,786
dollar transferred from a

3389
01:43:45,786 --> 01:43:47,120
working renters paycheck, not to

3390
01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:48,956
cover costs, but to grow a

3391
01:43:48,956 --> 01:43:51,158
landlord's wealth. Junk fees

3392
01:43:51,158 --> 01:43:52,092
aren't providing anything. Ban

3393
01:43:52,092 --> 01:43:52,292
them.

3394
01:43:52,292 --> 01:43:53,226
-- thank you, thank you.

3395
01:43:53,226 --> 01:43:53,560
-- [applause]

3396
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:53,860
-- amanda.

3397
01:43:53,860 --> 01:43:54,194
-- [applause]

3398
01:43:54,194 --> 01:43:56,163
-- next we have lee. Lee. And

3399
01:43:56,163 --> 01:43:57,598
before you go, lee. Okay, we

3400
01:43:57,598 --> 01:44:00,434
have about 40 more speakers. So

3401
01:44:00,434 --> 01:44:01,935
we have the next ten people up

3402
01:44:01,935 --> 01:44:06,340
is morgan shane, a cat. Danny,

3403
01:44:06,340 --> 01:44:08,809
lydia, ian, olivia, aaliyah,

3404
01:44:08,809 --> 01:44:10,477
daniel and gabriel. You are up

3405
01:44:10,477 --> 01:44:13,747
next. Morgan. Shani, cat. Danny.

3406
01:44:13,747 --> 01:44:16,116
lydia. Ian. Olivia. Aliyah.

3407
01:44:16,116 --> 01:44:20,020
daniel and gabriel. Welcome.

3408
01:44:20,020 --> 01:44:21,588
-- hello city council. My name

3409
01:44:21,588 --> 01:44:22,990
is lee. I'm a district three

3410
01:44:22,990 --> 01:44:25,659
voter. I'm here to support the

3411
01:44:25,659 --> 01:44:26,893
lgbt relief funding. You already

3412
01:44:26,893 --> 01:44:29,496
heard me speak on the fourth

3413
01:44:29,496 --> 01:44:30,030
about my experiences with

3414
01:44:30,030 --> 01:44:31,498
discrimination in the workplace.

3415
01:44:31,498 --> 01:44:33,667
so this time I want to mention

3416
01:44:33,667 --> 01:44:35,235
that right wing streamers like

3417
01:44:35,235 --> 01:44:37,204
ari, who, you know, talk trash

3418
01:44:37,204 --> 01:44:38,672
on us earlier, were allowed to

3419
01:44:38,672 --> 01:44:41,775
harass trans people during trans

3420
01:44:41,775 --> 01:44:43,977
pride back in july. They were

3421
01:44:43,977 --> 01:44:46,513
trespassing. Spd was called, and

3422
01:44:46,513 --> 01:44:48,015
they did not show up $300,000 is

3423
01:44:48,015 --> 01:44:49,883
a drop in the bucket compared to

3424
01:44:49,883 --> 01:44:52,286
the millions you give spd to

3425
01:44:52,286 --> 01:44:54,988
ignore us when we are being

3426
01:44:54,988 --> 01:44:55,522
antagonized and filmed by

3427
01:44:55,522 --> 01:44:57,357
fascist creeps. Please pass the

3428
01:44:57,357 --> 01:44:58,759
funding. Thank you.

3429
01:44:58,759 --> 01:45:00,994
-- thank you lee. Next we have

3430
01:45:00,994 --> 01:45:01,328
-- [applause]

3431
01:45:01,328 --> 01:45:03,263
-- morgan, followed by shani and

3432
01:45:03,263 --> 01:45:11,338
then cat. Welcome, morgan.

3433
01:45:11,338 --> 01:45:14,174
-- thank you. Thank you.

3434
01:45:14,174 --> 01:45:15,042
councilmembers. My name is

3435
01:45:15,042 --> 01:45:16,376
morgan. I'm a resident of

3436
01:45:16,376 --> 01:45:17,010
district three and an organizer

3437
01:45:17,010 --> 01:45:19,813
with the mutual aid network for

3438
01:45:19,813 --> 01:45:20,447
trans and intersex individuals

3439
01:45:20,447 --> 01:45:22,849
in seattle. I'm here to speak

3440
01:45:22,849 --> 01:45:26,753
in support of funding for the

3441
01:45:26,753 --> 01:45:28,789
trans community. The most

3442
01:45:28,789 --> 01:45:30,290
financially secure trans people

3443
01:45:30,290 --> 01:45:31,458
that I know are struggling to

3444
01:45:31,458 --> 01:45:33,193
hold on to their jobs and their

3445
01:45:33,193 --> 01:45:34,494
houses, and the least

3446
01:45:34,494 --> 01:45:36,196
financially secure trans people

3447
01:45:36,196 --> 01:45:38,198
that I know are sleeping in

3448
01:45:38,198 --> 01:45:40,167
parks and dealing with organized

3449
01:45:40,167 --> 01:45:42,469
harassment from right wing

3450
01:45:42,469 --> 01:45:47,140
streamers. The situation is

3451
01:45:47,140 --> 01:45:49,242
dire. Our our community

3452
01:45:49,242 --> 01:45:51,244
struggles to support ourselves

3453
01:45:51,244 --> 01:45:52,979
and to support each other. But

3454
01:45:52,979 --> 01:45:56,116
it's difficult when there's

3455
01:45:56,116 --> 01:45:58,752
pervasive discrimination and

3456
01:45:58,752 --> 01:46:01,922
harassment. We. We desperately

3457
01:46:01,922 --> 01:46:04,991
need assistance and. And I would

3458
01:46:04,991 --> 01:46:06,293
appreciate the council's

3459
01:46:06,293 --> 01:46:07,828
funding. Thank you.

3460
01:46:07,828 --> 01:46:09,730
-- thank you. Next we have

3461
01:46:09,730 --> 01:46:09,963
shani.

3462
01:46:09,963 --> 01:46:10,297
-- [applause]

3463
01:46:10,297 --> 01:46:14,101
-- welcome and kat. Welcome.

3464
01:46:14,101 --> 01:46:14,901
-- hello. My name. Can you hear

3465
01:46:14,901 --> 01:46:16,937
me? Yes, ma'am. Hello. My name

3466
01:46:16,937 --> 01:46:17,838
is shani. I'm a single mom. I

3467
01:46:17,838 --> 01:46:21,108
am in district two. I have lived

3468
01:46:21,108 --> 01:46:22,743
in my unit for the past. Since

3469
01:46:22,743 --> 01:46:26,246
2014, I've had a pet the entire

3470
01:46:26,246 --> 01:46:27,381
time. We've gotten a new

3471
01:46:27,381 --> 01:46:29,015
manager. I've never had a

3472
01:46:29,015 --> 01:46:30,817
deposit or anything like that.

3473
01:46:30,817 --> 01:46:32,786
and now that we have a new

3474
01:46:32,786 --> 01:46:34,121
manager, they're using these

3475
01:46:34,121 --> 01:46:39,025
fees as a weapon. They are like,

3476
01:46:39,025 --> 01:46:41,161
you owe 300 for a deposit and

3477
01:46:41,161 --> 01:46:44,464
$35 for rent. And then that's

3478
01:46:44,464 --> 01:46:45,532
not fair because you don't give

3479
01:46:45,532 --> 01:46:47,334
any notice. Then they backdate

3480
01:46:47,334 --> 01:46:50,904
it. I pay my rent on time. I

3481
01:46:50,904 --> 01:46:51,805
have to pay a fee because I

3482
01:46:51,805 --> 01:46:54,741
write a check, which is unfair.

3483
01:46:54,741 --> 01:46:56,777
I have a fee for them just

3484
01:46:56,777 --> 01:46:58,645
having to communicate a $50 fee

3485
01:46:58,645 --> 01:47:03,717
for them communicating with me,

3486
01:47:03,717 --> 01:47:07,154
which is unfair. I have, I'm

3487
01:47:07,154 --> 01:47:09,122
feeling targeted and I feel that

3488
01:47:09,122 --> 01:47:11,658
it's not fair that they can use

3489
01:47:11,658 --> 01:47:12,826
these fees and just throw them

3490
01:47:12,826 --> 01:47:14,294
in there at any time that they

3491
01:47:14,294 --> 01:47:16,163
want and don't tell you

3492
01:47:16,163 --> 01:47:17,264
anything on why they're giving

3493
01:47:17,264 --> 01:47:20,000
them to you. So I would really,

3494
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:20,634
really appreciate it if you all

3495
01:47:20,634 --> 01:47:22,569
could ban me.

3496
01:47:22,569 --> 01:47:24,037
-- thank you. Next we have kat,

3497
01:47:24,037 --> 01:47:24,371
-- [applause]

3498
01:47:24,371 --> 01:47:30,343
-- followed by danny, lydia,

3499
01:47:30,343 --> 01:47:31,578
ian, olivia. Go ahead cat. Thank

3500
01:47:31,578 --> 01:47:32,913
you. Yep.

3501
01:47:32,913 --> 01:47:34,748
-- good afternoon. Council

3502
01:47:34,748 --> 01:47:35,248
president hollingsworth

3503
01:47:35,248 --> 01:47:36,249
councilmembers. I'm danny, I'm

3504
01:47:36,249 --> 01:47:37,684
the executive director of gender

3505
01:47:37,684 --> 01:47:39,085
justice league here in seattle.

3506
01:47:39,085 --> 01:47:41,188
and I'm urging your approval of

3507
01:47:41,188 --> 01:47:43,390
the $300,000 amendment for the

3508
01:47:43,390 --> 01:47:44,658
lgbtq community response to the

3509
01:47:44,658 --> 01:47:47,360
trans internal displacement.

3510
01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:48,895
city council cannot change the

3511
01:47:48,895 --> 01:47:49,462
anti-trans laws that are

3512
01:47:49,462 --> 01:47:50,297
sweeping this country. They

3513
01:47:50,297 --> 01:47:51,865
can't change federal policy.

3514
01:47:51,865 --> 01:47:53,800
but what you can do is help us

3515
01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:55,235
support the people that are

3516
01:47:55,235 --> 01:47:55,769
arriving because of those

3517
01:47:55,769 --> 01:47:58,205
changes. I provided all of your

3518
01:47:58,205 --> 01:47:59,072
offices with a white paper that

3519
01:47:59,072 --> 01:48:00,340
goes really in depth. I'm not

3520
01:48:00,340 --> 01:48:01,775
going to repeat all of the

3521
01:48:01,775 --> 01:48:03,210
complexity in those 54 pages. I

3522
01:48:03,210 --> 01:48:04,778
do want to share a personal

3523
01:48:04,778 --> 01:48:06,413
story that I've not shared.

3524
01:48:06,413 --> 01:48:07,514
it's incredibly painful, but I

3525
01:48:07,514 --> 01:48:09,583
feel like it is illustrative.

3526
01:48:09,583 --> 01:48:11,117
this week is a very painful

3527
01:48:11,117 --> 01:48:12,319
anniversary for me. Last year,

3528
01:48:12,319 --> 01:48:14,120
my husband died by suicide. He

3529
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:16,289
died by suicide in large part

3530
01:48:16,289 --> 01:48:17,757
because he didn't want to

3531
01:48:17,757 --> 01:48:20,293
displace for a third time. We

3532
01:48:20,293 --> 01:48:21,561
moved from seattle to sweden,

3533
01:48:21,561 --> 01:48:23,597
sweden to dc, dc to virginia,

3534
01:48:23,597 --> 01:48:25,632
and for him, one more move.

3535
01:48:25,632 --> 01:48:26,700
because of the fact that we're

3536
01:48:26,700 --> 01:48:27,334
trans and he didn't feel safe

3537
01:48:27,334 --> 01:48:29,502
as a federal employee, was one

3538
01:48:29,502 --> 01:48:30,971
move too many. I had to bury

3539
01:48:30,971 --> 01:48:32,973
him. And then I flew right back

3540
01:48:32,973 --> 01:48:34,274
to support people who were

3541
01:48:34,274 --> 01:48:36,009
arriving. I do that every day.

3542
01:48:36,009 --> 01:48:38,745
gender justice league has seen a

3543
01:48:38,745 --> 01:48:42,949
643% increase in survivors who

3544
01:48:42,949 --> 01:48:43,783
served over 1000 people in the

3545
01:48:43,783 --> 01:48:44,818
last year. And I just want to

3546
01:48:44,818 --> 01:48:46,520
share that with you. The stakes

3547
01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:48,688
are high and very real. It is

3548
01:48:48,688 --> 01:48:50,290
not hyperbolic. People are

3549
01:48:50,290 --> 01:48:50,757
dying.

3550
01:48:50,757 --> 01:48:51,758
-- thank you danny, thank.

3551
01:48:51,758 --> 01:48:52,859
-- you so much.

3552
01:48:52,859 --> 01:48:53,226
-- next we have

3553
01:48:53,226 --> 01:48:53,560
-- [applause]

3554
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:55,128
-- lydia

3555
01:48:55,128 --> 01:48:57,664
-- [applause]

3556
01:48:57,664 --> 01:48:58,965
-- and I and just and just hear

3557
01:48:58,965 --> 01:49:00,267
me out, y'all. If we do spirit

3558
01:49:00,267 --> 01:49:02,135
hands, we can kind of move

3559
01:49:02,135 --> 01:49:03,203
through. I know people are

3560
01:49:03,203 --> 01:49:04,704
supportive, but. And I don't

3561
01:49:04,704 --> 01:49:06,439
want to suppress noise, but I'm

3562
01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:09,376
just if we did spirit hands and

3563
01:49:09,376 --> 01:49:10,143
and the snaps, that would help.

3564
01:49:10,143 --> 01:49:12,145
so I can call the next speaker

3565
01:49:12,145 --> 01:49:15,215
in between. Did I skip over cat.

3566
01:49:15,215 --> 01:49:16,283
okay. Awesome cat. Thank you,

3567
01:49:16,283 --> 01:49:20,287
danny, for that cat. And then

3568
01:49:20,287 --> 01:49:22,222
lydia, welcome.

3569
01:49:22,222 --> 01:49:24,557
-- thank you. I'm going to

3570
01:49:24,557 --> 01:49:26,826
start actually, in the wake of

3571
01:49:26,826 --> 01:49:28,828
that story by saying, let's

3572
01:49:28,828 --> 01:49:30,630
support our trans community with

3573
01:49:30,630 --> 01:49:31,998
dignity and with resource. So

3574
01:49:31,998 --> 01:49:34,601
thank you for that story. Good

3575
01:49:34,601 --> 01:49:37,537
afternoon, council cat munson.

3576
01:49:37,537 --> 01:49:39,873
I'm a new renter in district

3577
01:49:39,873 --> 01:49:41,408
four, and I'm also the

3578
01:49:41,408 --> 01:49:41,942
community engagement and

3579
01:49:41,942 --> 01:49:43,410
advocacy manager at sound

3580
01:49:43,410 --> 01:49:45,512
generations, where we support

3581
01:49:45,512 --> 01:49:47,147
older adults through meals on

3582
01:49:47,147 --> 01:49:49,082
wheels and much, much more. I'm

3583
01:49:49,082 --> 01:49:50,216
here in strong support of

3584
01:49:50,216 --> 01:49:52,018
councilmember foster's bill to

3585
01:49:52,018 --> 01:49:53,954
ban rental junk fees, for low

3586
01:49:53,954 --> 01:49:55,388
income older renters. We serve

3587
01:49:55,388 --> 01:49:57,190
live on fixed income, so even a

3588
01:49:57,190 --> 01:49:59,092
seemingly small hidden fee can

3589
01:49:59,092 --> 01:50:00,794
tip the balance towards housing

3590
01:50:00,794 --> 01:50:02,429
insecurity. And older adults are

3591
01:50:02,429 --> 01:50:04,564
often specifically targeted by

3592
01:50:04,564 --> 01:50:05,565
predatory landlords who

3593
01:50:05,565 --> 01:50:06,833
capitalize on the fact that

3594
01:50:06,833 --> 01:50:08,134
they're much less likely to

3595
01:50:08,134 --> 01:50:10,870
move. My own mom, who lived in a

3596
01:50:10,870 --> 01:50:13,473
capitol hill housing complex for

3597
01:50:13,473 --> 01:50:14,407
like 15 years, fought against

3598
01:50:14,407 --> 01:50:16,076
her pet rent for her beloved dog

3599
01:50:16,076 --> 01:50:16,910
and companion, phoebe, for much

3600
01:50:16,910 --> 01:50:18,612
of the time that she lived

3601
01:50:18,612 --> 01:50:21,348
there. So I urge you to pass

3602
01:50:21,348 --> 01:50:24,451
this bill and reject amendment c

3603
01:50:24,451 --> 01:50:25,418
and d and support our trans

3604
01:50:25,418 --> 01:50:25,719
community.

3605
01:50:25,719 --> 01:50:27,854
-- thank you kat. Next, we have

3606
01:50:27,854 --> 01:50:29,856
lydia, followed by ian. Olivia.

3607
01:50:29,856 --> 01:50:32,392
welcome, lydia, ian, olivia.

3608
01:50:32,392 --> 01:50:34,294
-- hi, I'm lydia rubenstein,

3609
01:50:34,294 --> 01:50:36,529
I'm a renter in district three

3610
01:50:36,529 --> 01:50:37,197
and I'm a tenant educator with

3611
01:50:37,197 --> 01:50:39,165
the tenants union of washington

3612
01:50:39,165 --> 01:50:40,400
state. I'm here in strong

3613
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:42,168
support to ban rental junk fees

3614
01:50:42,168 --> 01:50:46,239
and say no to amendment c and d,

3615
01:50:46,239 --> 01:50:47,674
that would weaken this in any

3616
01:50:47,674 --> 01:50:49,275
way. These rental junk fees

3617
01:50:49,275 --> 01:50:50,543
directly threaten our ability as

3618
01:50:50,543 --> 01:50:51,978
renters to stay housed,

3619
01:50:51,978 --> 01:50:53,213
especially renters using a

3620
01:50:53,213 --> 01:50:54,714
voucher, living on fixed

3621
01:50:54,714 --> 01:50:56,616
incomes, and anyone living in

3622
01:50:56,616 --> 01:50:57,217
affordable housing complexes.

3623
01:50:57,217 --> 01:50:58,752
I've seen entire affordable

3624
01:50:58,752 --> 01:51:00,520
housing buildings struck with

3625
01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:01,988
sudden cable and internet fees

3626
01:51:01,988 --> 01:51:04,724
that make it hard to opt out of.

3627
01:51:04,724 --> 01:51:05,458
and not only that, but reduce

3628
01:51:05,458 --> 01:51:07,594
their access to affordable

3629
01:51:07,594 --> 01:51:09,629
internet that the city offers.

3630
01:51:09,629 --> 01:51:11,231
I've heard from renters who've

3631
01:51:11,231 --> 01:51:12,932
had a pet for years face new

3632
01:51:12,932 --> 01:51:14,100
predatory pet rent not as a

3633
01:51:14,100 --> 01:51:15,869
result of any damages on the

3634
01:51:15,869 --> 01:51:16,536
property, just because a

3635
01:51:16,536 --> 01:51:18,038
renowned slumlord in seattle

3636
01:51:18,038 --> 01:51:19,205
found pet rent to be the best

3637
01:51:19,205 --> 01:51:21,241
way to squeeze more from

3638
01:51:21,241 --> 01:51:23,043
renters. This pet rent resulted

3639
01:51:23,043 --> 01:51:24,411
in threats of eviction and even

3640
01:51:24,411 --> 01:51:26,513
more fees in late fees and

3641
01:51:26,513 --> 01:51:29,616
administrative fee charges for

3642
01:51:29,616 --> 01:51:30,717
providing notice. Landlords

3643
01:51:30,717 --> 01:51:32,152
should not be able to hide rent

3644
01:51:32,152 --> 01:51:33,386
increases by inventing new

3645
01:51:33,386 --> 01:51:34,220
monthly fees or renaming charges

3646
01:51:34,220 --> 01:51:35,989
to avoid accountability. Vote

3647
01:51:35,989 --> 01:51:38,324
yes to ban rental junk fees.

3648
01:51:38,324 --> 01:51:38,692
-- amendment c.

3649
01:51:38,692 --> 01:51:40,126
-- and d.

3650
01:51:40,126 --> 01:51:40,460
-- thank you.

3651
01:51:40,460 --> 01:51:44,064
-- thank you lydia. Next we have

3652
01:51:44,064 --> 01:51:45,765
ian followed by olivia, aaliyah,

3653
01:51:45,765 --> 01:51:48,501
daniel, gabriel. Welcome, ian.

3654
01:51:48,501 --> 01:51:51,071
-- hello, council. My name was

3655
01:51:51,071 --> 01:51:52,706
ian. I am from utah. I moved

3656
01:51:52,706 --> 01:51:56,443
here four days ago. I originally

3657
01:51:56,443 --> 01:51:58,578
moved here in 2003 with my

3658
01:51:58,578 --> 01:52:01,881
family, and I'm here to talk

3659
01:52:01,881 --> 01:52:02,415
about the internal trans

3660
01:52:02,415 --> 01:52:04,884
displacement. Currently, most of

3661
01:52:04,884 --> 01:52:07,587
my friends are very worried

3662
01:52:07,587 --> 01:52:08,888
about what utah is like, but

3663
01:52:08,888 --> 01:52:10,590
what texas is like about what

3664
01:52:10,590 --> 01:52:14,861
other states are like and are in

3665
01:52:14,861 --> 01:52:17,230
fear for their access to life

3666
01:52:17,230 --> 01:52:20,600
saving medications. Seattle is

3667
01:52:20,600 --> 01:52:21,668
something that we look to a lot

3668
01:52:21,668 --> 01:52:26,239
as a very important and very

3669
01:52:26,239 --> 01:52:31,277
critical hope. So by you guys,

3670
01:52:31,277 --> 01:52:33,747
considering the $300,000, I

3671
01:52:33,747 --> 01:52:35,982
believe that would be very

3672
01:52:35,982 --> 01:52:36,783
beneficial for people in my

3673
01:52:36,783 --> 01:52:38,752
community. Thank you.

3674
01:52:38,752 --> 01:52:40,153
-- thank you. Ian, welcome to

3675
01:52:40,153 --> 01:52:44,157
the 206. We are so happy to have

3676
01:52:44,157 --> 01:52:45,058
you. Is olivia here? Yes.

3677
01:52:45,058 --> 01:52:48,895
awesome. Welcome, olivia.

3678
01:52:48,895 --> 01:52:51,564
-- yes

3679
01:52:51,564 --> 01:52:54,134
-- hi city council, my name is

3680
01:52:54,134 --> 01:52:55,869
olivia and I'm a worker and

3681
01:52:55,869 --> 01:52:57,070
renter living in beacon hill.

3682
01:52:57,070 --> 01:52:58,705
I'm here to urge city council

3683
01:52:58,705 --> 01:53:00,673
to take action to support the

3684
01:53:00,673 --> 01:53:01,608
proposed rental junk fees ban

3685
01:53:01,608 --> 01:53:04,377
and vote no on amendment c and d

3686
01:53:04,377 --> 01:53:06,713
today. Specifically, amendment c

3687
01:53:06,713 --> 01:53:08,448
undermines renter protections

3688
01:53:08,448 --> 01:53:10,583
designed to protect renters from

3689
01:53:10,583 --> 01:53:12,552
price gouging just so landlords

3690
01:53:12,552 --> 01:53:14,821
can make a profit. A proposed

3691
01:53:14,821 --> 01:53:17,157
pet rent cap of $25 plus

3692
01:53:17,157 --> 01:53:19,292
inflation demonstrates that rent

3693
01:53:19,292 --> 01:53:20,960
rent is arbitrary and only

3694
01:53:20,960 --> 01:53:23,296
serves to make landlords money.

3695
01:53:23,296 --> 01:53:24,964
landlords often say that pets

3696
01:53:24,964 --> 01:53:25,999
cause damage beyond the pet

3697
01:53:25,999 --> 01:53:27,500
deposits, but a fee like pet

3698
01:53:27,500 --> 01:53:29,736
rent isn't even applied to

3699
01:53:29,736 --> 01:53:31,204
damages. Renters have to pay for

3700
01:53:31,204 --> 01:53:34,207
any damage their pets cause. On

3701
01:53:34,207 --> 01:53:35,575
top of paying pet rent and pet

3702
01:53:35,575 --> 01:53:38,144
deposit. Although pet rent is

3703
01:53:38,144 --> 01:53:39,946
technically a fee and not rent

3704
01:53:39,946 --> 01:53:41,848
fees like pet rent raise the

3705
01:53:41,848 --> 01:53:42,849
total practical monthly cost of

3706
01:53:42,849 --> 01:53:44,384
rent for working people, making

3707
01:53:44,384 --> 01:53:49,689
it difficult to find stable and

3708
01:53:49,689 --> 01:53:51,124
affordable housing. Please pass

3709
01:53:51,124 --> 01:53:52,025
this ordinance without any

3710
01:53:52,025 --> 01:53:53,293
weakening amendments. Reject

3711
01:53:53,293 --> 01:53:56,062
amendment c and d, and protect

3712
01:53:56,062 --> 01:53:59,966
and support our trans neighbors.

3713
01:53:59,966 --> 01:54:01,534
-- thank you olivia. Next we

3714
01:54:01,534 --> 01:54:02,135
have alya, followed by daniel

3715
01:54:02,135 --> 01:54:02,702
and then gabriel. Welcome.

3716
01:54:02,702 --> 01:54:03,503
-- hi, council. I want to speak

3717
01:54:03,503 --> 01:54:08,975
as a renter in capitol hill,

3718
01:54:08,975 --> 01:54:11,211
someone who grew up in queen

3719
01:54:11,211 --> 01:54:12,745
anne and as a trans woman in

3720
01:54:12,745 --> 01:54:14,747
this community. So I want to

3721
01:54:14,747 --> 01:54:15,381
speak in support of the funding

3722
01:54:15,381 --> 01:54:17,450
for the trans refuge and the

3723
01:54:17,450 --> 01:54:19,185
local orgs that work so hard to

3724
01:54:19,185 --> 01:54:20,019
support us as we come here as a

3725
01:54:20,019 --> 01:54:22,121
trans woman and as a survivor of

3726
01:54:22,121 --> 01:54:24,691
assaults, domestic violence,

3727
01:54:24,691 --> 01:54:26,226
rape, and as somebody who's

3728
01:54:26,226 --> 01:54:26,759
previously volunteered at

3729
01:54:26,759 --> 01:54:27,961
shelters, I'm appalled by some

3730
01:54:27,961 --> 01:54:29,028
of the statements we heard today

3731
01:54:29,028 --> 01:54:29,596
from the republicans, who I

3732
01:54:29,596 --> 01:54:30,697
guess couldn't be bothered to

3733
01:54:30,697 --> 01:54:32,966
stick around. But I know also

3734
01:54:32,966 --> 01:54:34,667
know that none of those stories

3735
01:54:34,667 --> 01:54:36,436
of mine are unique. I don't want

3736
01:54:36,436 --> 01:54:38,872
to speak to how hard our lives

3737
01:54:38,872 --> 01:54:40,506
can be, or the discrimination

3738
01:54:40,506 --> 01:54:41,407
that we very actively face

3739
01:54:41,407 --> 01:54:44,010
everywhere in this country,

3740
01:54:44,010 --> 01:54:44,577
including in seattle. But I

3741
01:54:44,577 --> 01:54:47,013
really do want to speak to is as

3742
01:54:47,013 --> 01:54:49,282
a volunteer in open arms, the

3743
01:54:49,282 --> 01:54:52,852
attraction local 503. How hard I

3744
01:54:52,852 --> 01:54:54,254
see trans refugees working to

3745
01:54:54,254 --> 01:54:56,089
build their lives here. We are

3746
01:54:56,089 --> 01:54:58,291
constantly applying for jobs. We

3747
01:54:58,291 --> 01:54:58,925
are constantly doing everything

3748
01:54:58,925 --> 01:55:00,894
we can to build our lives here,

3749
01:55:00,894 --> 01:55:01,761
and this funding would just

3750
01:55:01,761 --> 01:55:03,096
it's support for a crisis. It

3751
01:55:03,096 --> 01:55:04,931
is not anything like a free

3752
01:55:04,931 --> 01:55:06,566
handout. Thank you so much for

3753
01:55:06,566 --> 01:55:08,368
everyone and for everyone.

3754
01:55:08,368 --> 01:55:09,702
-- awesome. Thank you. Next we

3755
01:55:09,702 --> 01:55:11,237
have daniel, followed by

3756
01:55:11,237 --> 01:55:12,705
gabriel. Daniel, then gabriel.

3757
01:55:12,705 --> 01:55:13,973
are you daniel? Yep. Awesome.

3758
01:55:13,973 --> 01:55:15,675
welcome. And then gabriel,

3759
01:55:15,675 --> 01:55:17,810
thanks. Yep. Welcome.

3760
01:55:17,810 --> 01:55:19,145
-- good afternoon council. My

3761
01:55:19,145 --> 01:55:20,847
name is daniel gallagher. I'm a

3762
01:55:20,847 --> 01:55:23,116
proud resident of district

3763
01:55:23,116 --> 01:55:24,717
seven. I develop and operate

3764
01:55:24,717 --> 01:55:26,219
affordable and market rate

3765
01:55:26,219 --> 01:55:27,420
housing in seattle. And I'm here

3766
01:55:27,420 --> 01:55:29,756
to speak on in support of

3767
01:55:29,756 --> 01:55:33,793
amendment c and d to c, b

3768
01:55:33,793 --> 01:55:35,995
121254. Amendment c allows

3769
01:55:35,995 --> 01:55:37,830
apartment owners to charge a

3770
01:55:37,830 --> 01:55:40,366
modest fee for pets, adjusted

3771
01:55:40,366 --> 01:55:41,701
for inflation, the pet deposit

3772
01:55:41,701 --> 01:55:42,635
covers wear and tear and

3773
01:55:42,635 --> 01:55:44,604
apartment units, and ensures pet

3774
01:55:44,604 --> 01:55:45,672
owners are the ones who pay

3775
01:55:45,672 --> 01:55:47,240
instead of passing that cost on

3776
01:55:47,240 --> 01:55:48,241
to other renters who choose not

3777
01:55:48,241 --> 01:55:50,276
to have a pet. This amendment

3778
01:55:50,276 --> 01:55:51,177
helps ensure that the cost of

3779
01:55:51,177 --> 01:55:52,445
owning a pet remains the

3780
01:55:52,445 --> 01:55:54,180
responsibility of the pet

3781
01:55:54,180 --> 01:55:55,381
owners. Certainly, this fee

3782
01:55:55,381 --> 01:55:55,882
should be transparently

3783
01:55:55,882 --> 01:55:56,816
disclosed, at least signing with

3784
01:55:56,816 --> 01:55:58,584
no argument there and adopting

3785
01:55:58,584 --> 01:56:00,320
this amendment we believe is

3786
01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:02,455
equitable for all renters.

3787
01:56:02,455 --> 01:56:05,124
amendment d likewise ensures

3788
01:56:05,124 --> 01:56:07,260
that renters get insurance. Too

3789
01:56:07,260 --> 01:56:10,496
many times in my buildings, I've

3790
01:56:10,496 --> 01:56:11,030
seen renters without rent

3791
01:56:11,030 --> 01:56:14,500
insurance be be very financially

3792
01:56:14,500 --> 01:56:17,537
damaged by accidents, and we

3793
01:56:17,537 --> 01:56:18,838
think amendment d helps support

3794
01:56:18,838 --> 01:56:20,173
renters in the long term. Thank

3795
01:56:20,173 --> 01:56:20,506
you.

3796
01:56:20,506 --> 01:56:22,408
-- thank you daniel. Next we

3797
01:56:22,408 --> 01:56:24,143
have gabriel. Is gabriel here?

3798
01:56:24,143 --> 01:56:27,280
diaz. Gabriel. No. Okay. So

3799
01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:29,349
we'll go to the next ten people

3800
01:56:29,349 --> 01:56:30,049
in person and then we're going

3801
01:56:30,049 --> 01:56:32,885
to jump back online. So we have

3802
01:56:32,885 --> 01:56:35,621
clive is clive here? Welcome.

3803
01:56:35,621 --> 01:56:40,393
after clive we have kyle, then

3804
01:56:40,393 --> 01:56:43,196
paul. We have edwin. Carl,

3805
01:56:43,196 --> 01:56:47,266
halley, guinevere, nina. And

3806
01:56:47,266 --> 01:56:48,634
then jeff. Paul. And then

3807
01:56:48,634 --> 01:56:50,703
there's a number 64 here. Tyron

3808
01:56:50,703 --> 01:56:54,140
is the last name peter. I think

3809
01:56:54,140 --> 01:56:56,275
that looks like peter. Welcome,

3810
01:56:56,275 --> 01:56:57,844
clive.

3811
01:56:57,844 --> 01:56:58,444
-- my name is clive hayward.

3812
01:56:58,444 --> 01:57:00,913
I'm a street performer and I've

3813
01:57:00,913 --> 01:57:01,447
performed on the seattle

3814
01:57:01,447 --> 01:57:04,150
waterfront since 2015. Seattle

3815
01:57:04,150 --> 01:57:06,619
center is knowingly and

3816
01:57:06,619 --> 01:57:08,721
willfully violating street

3817
01:57:08,721 --> 01:57:09,989
performers, first amendment

3818
01:57:09,989 --> 01:57:12,525
rights. The city already lost

3819
01:57:12,525 --> 01:57:13,459
this fight in 2009 in berger

3820
01:57:13,459 --> 01:57:17,363
versus the city of seattle. I

3821
01:57:17,363 --> 01:57:20,400
filed multiple formal claims. My

3822
01:57:20,400 --> 01:57:22,368
damages continue to accrue. I am

3823
01:57:22,368 --> 01:57:24,404
asking council to direct the

3824
01:57:24,404 --> 01:57:26,305
city, the seattle center

3825
01:57:26,305 --> 01:57:28,741
leadership to train its staff on

3826
01:57:28,741 --> 01:57:30,777
performers constitutional rights

3827
01:57:30,777 --> 01:57:33,046
and to publicly account for

3828
01:57:33,046 --> 01:57:36,549
claims like mine. Seattle center

3829
01:57:36,549 --> 01:57:37,183
is responsible for public safety

3830
01:57:37,183 --> 01:57:38,217
operations on the waterfront. It

3831
01:57:38,217 --> 01:57:39,886
is also supposed to support arts

3832
01:57:39,886 --> 01:57:43,055
and culture. This isn't

3833
01:57:43,055 --> 01:57:46,426
complicated. Follow the ninth

3834
01:57:46,426 --> 01:57:49,095
circuit's ruling. Follow the

3835
01:57:49,095 --> 01:57:49,429
constitution.

3836
01:57:49,429 --> 01:57:50,897
-- thank you clive. Next we have

3837
01:57:50,897 --> 01:57:58,805
kyle, followed by paul welcome.

3838
01:57:58,805 --> 01:58:00,239
-- thank you. I'm kyle mcbride

3839
01:58:00,239 --> 01:58:02,408
and I live in district four and

3840
01:58:02,408 --> 01:58:04,811
as a teenager who wants to

3841
01:58:04,811 --> 01:58:05,978
continue to live in the city of

3842
01:58:05,978 --> 01:58:08,114
seattle, I have to wake up every

3843
01:58:08,114 --> 01:58:09,649
day and know that unlike my

3844
01:58:09,649 --> 01:58:12,318
parents, I cannot be sure that

3845
01:58:12,318 --> 01:58:14,854
my future is secure. The

3846
01:58:14,854 --> 01:58:16,756
exorbitant price of housing that

3847
01:58:16,756 --> 01:58:20,126
has caused my generation immense

3848
01:58:20,126 --> 01:58:21,727
struggle and junk fees are part

3849
01:58:21,727 --> 01:58:24,197
of this problem. About a quarter

3850
01:58:24,197 --> 01:58:27,100
of renters in the united states

3851
01:58:27,100 --> 01:58:28,935
are part of gen z, while gen z

3852
01:58:28,935 --> 01:58:30,803
has a higher debt to income

3853
01:58:30,803 --> 01:58:33,506
ratio than the previous

3854
01:58:33,506 --> 01:58:35,007
generation, allowing junk fees

3855
01:58:35,007 --> 01:58:36,642
is just kicking us while we're

3856
01:58:36,642 --> 01:58:38,578
already down. I urge you to vote

3857
01:58:38,578 --> 01:58:40,680
for councilwoman foster's bill

3858
01:58:40,680 --> 01:58:42,048
to eliminate junk fees.

3859
01:58:42,048 --> 01:58:43,816
-- thank you, thank you, kyle.

3860
01:58:43,816 --> 01:58:45,251
next we have paul. Paul here.

3861
01:58:45,251 --> 01:58:52,592
welcome, paul.

3862
01:58:52,592 --> 01:58:52,859
-- hi.

3863
01:58:52,859 --> 01:58:54,127
-- so after trump reelection in

3864
01:58:54,127 --> 01:58:56,095
just seven months, about one in

3865
01:58:56,095 --> 01:58:58,131
every ten trans people moved

3866
01:58:58,131 --> 01:59:02,635
state. Rightfully so. In 2025

3867
01:59:02,635 --> 01:59:04,470
alone, 109 anti-trans bills were

3868
01:59:04,470 --> 01:59:06,072
enacted. They threatened their

3869
01:59:06,072 --> 01:59:07,807
access to healthcare, their job,

3870
01:59:07,807 --> 01:59:09,642
their safety, their whole

3871
01:59:09,642 --> 01:59:12,078
existence as trans people. At

3872
01:59:12,078 --> 01:59:13,346
cpac, the objective was made

3873
01:59:13,346 --> 01:59:16,149
explicit transgenderism must be

3874
01:59:16,149 --> 01:59:17,917
eradicated from public, like

3875
01:59:17,917 --> 01:59:20,119
from public life entirely. This

3876
01:59:20,119 --> 01:59:24,891
is a quote, the lemkin institute

3877
01:59:24,891 --> 01:59:26,459
for for genocide prevention has

3878
01:59:26,459 --> 01:59:28,728
raised three red flags regarding

3879
01:59:28,728 --> 01:59:31,797
trans genocide in the us. Still,

3880
01:59:31,797 --> 01:59:33,199
more than 700,000 trans people

3881
01:59:33,199 --> 01:59:34,734
still live in states where the

3882
01:59:34,734 --> 01:59:38,204
legal risk to them is deemed

3883
01:59:38,204 --> 01:59:39,539
severe or worse. Many of those

3884
01:59:39,539 --> 01:59:42,141
people need to move for their

3885
01:59:42,141 --> 01:59:44,210
survival, and many don't have

3886
01:59:44,210 --> 01:59:46,145
the means. Nobody upend their

3887
01:59:46,145 --> 01:59:48,648
life just for hands out. Like

3888
01:59:48,648 --> 01:59:50,583
somebody said earlier, we have

3889
01:59:50,583 --> 01:59:51,217
to acknowledge the situation. We

3890
01:59:51,217 --> 01:59:52,451
have to do the right things. We

3891
01:59:52,451 --> 01:59:56,055
have to do more. Thank you.

3892
01:59:56,055 --> 01:59:56,689
-- thank you paul. Next we have

3893
01:59:56,689 --> 01:59:59,292
pete. I think it's peter tynan.

3894
01:59:59,292 --> 02:00:01,394
pete. Is it peter? Is that is it

3895
02:00:01,394 --> 02:00:02,862
peter? Yeah. Okay. Awesome. My

3896
02:00:02,862 --> 02:00:04,363
bad. Peter. And then followed by

3897
02:00:04,363 --> 02:00:11,437
peter eden and then karl.

3898
02:00:11,437 --> 02:00:12,505
-- hello city council. Hello,

3899
02:00:12,505 --> 02:00:13,239
councilmember rinck. It was good

3900
02:00:13,239 --> 02:00:15,041
meeting you the other day. My

3901
02:00:15,041 --> 02:00:17,910
name is peter. I am a resident

3902
02:00:17,910 --> 02:00:20,279
of ballard, born and raised and

3903
02:00:20,279 --> 02:00:21,147
also a veteran. I want to thank

3904
02:00:21,147 --> 02:00:22,715
you, councilwoman rinck, for

3905
02:00:22,715 --> 02:00:23,549
spearheading this effort that

3906
02:00:23,549 --> 02:00:25,251
was brought forward by our

3907
02:00:25,251 --> 02:00:26,719
partners in mantis for the sake

3908
02:00:26,719 --> 02:00:31,791
of trans survival. I got mixed

3909
02:00:31,791 --> 02:00:33,726
up. That's okay. Okay. I love

3910
02:00:33,726 --> 02:00:35,261
this city. As we all know,

3911
02:00:35,261 --> 02:00:36,362
seattle is a sanctuary city, and

3912
02:00:36,362 --> 02:00:38,698
I believe that this status

3913
02:00:38,698 --> 02:00:40,967
morally extends not only to

3914
02:00:40,967 --> 02:00:42,802
immigrants internationally, but

3915
02:00:42,802 --> 02:00:43,836
also to immigrants across this

3916
02:00:43,836 --> 02:00:45,738
whole country who are fleeing

3917
02:00:45,738 --> 02:00:47,340
violence, such as our trans

3918
02:00:47,340 --> 02:00:53,579
friends all across the states

3919
02:00:53,579 --> 02:00:54,180
lgbtq volunteer organizations

3920
02:00:54,180 --> 02:00:55,648
have helped hundreds of trans

3921
02:00:55,648 --> 02:00:58,117
people and lack the capacity to

3922
02:00:58,117 --> 02:01:00,386
help hundreds more with

3923
02:01:00,386 --> 02:01:01,020
acquiring housing and employment

3924
02:01:01,020 --> 02:01:03,422
in seattle. By passing this

3925
02:01:03,422 --> 02:01:05,524
legislation, we can direct aid

3926
02:01:05,524 --> 02:01:06,058
towards the organizations

3927
02:01:06,058 --> 02:01:08,227
providing resources to these

3928
02:01:08,227 --> 02:01:10,596
migrants, providing, seeking

3929
02:01:10,596 --> 02:01:11,364
safety and giving them a chance

3930
02:01:11,364 --> 02:01:14,200
for a new beginning. I was

3931
02:01:14,200 --> 02:01:15,034
extremely proud as an american

3932
02:01:15,034 --> 02:01:16,002
and as a veteran, and even more

3933
02:01:16,002 --> 02:01:22,475
so as a seattleite, to see.

3934
02:01:22,475 --> 02:01:23,075
-- thanks. Thank you peter.

3935
02:01:23,075 --> 02:01:24,110
thank you know you're good.

3936
02:01:24,110 --> 02:01:27,279
thank you. Peter, edin or eden?

3937
02:01:27,279 --> 02:01:32,585
is it eden? Edin. Edin is eden

3938
02:01:32,585 --> 02:01:35,187
here? No. Karl, are you here?

3939
02:01:35,187 --> 02:01:38,391
welcome. Karl and holly. Willis.

3940
02:01:38,391 --> 02:01:39,125
-- members of council. My name

3941
02:01:39,125 --> 02:01:42,295
is carl nelson. I'm a 17 year

3942
02:01:42,295 --> 02:01:43,629
renter in district four.

3943
02:01:43,629 --> 02:01:46,132
co-chair and founding member of

3944
02:01:46,132 --> 02:01:46,699
the cedar crossing tenants

3945
02:01:46,699 --> 02:01:47,366
association and a member of the

3946
02:01:47,366 --> 02:01:49,268
board of directors of the

3947
02:01:49,268 --> 02:01:49,769
seattle social housing

3948
02:01:49,769 --> 02:01:51,470
developer. I'm here today in my

3949
02:01:51,470 --> 02:01:52,905
capacity as an individual and a

3950
02:01:52,905 --> 02:01:55,441
small business owner to speak in

3951
02:01:55,441 --> 02:01:57,977
favor of the legislation banning

3952
02:01:57,977 --> 02:01:59,412
junk fees with amendments a and

3953
02:01:59,412 --> 02:02:01,080
e, and without amendments c and

3954
02:02:01,080 --> 02:02:02,815
d council. Let's be very clear

3955
02:02:02,815 --> 02:02:04,917
about what being a landlord or

3956
02:02:04,917 --> 02:02:05,651
housing provider actually is. It

3957
02:02:05,651 --> 02:02:07,453
is a decision by an individual

3958
02:02:07,453 --> 02:02:09,221
or individuals to go into

3959
02:02:09,221 --> 02:02:10,723
business and thereby assume the

3960
02:02:10,723 --> 02:02:13,292
risks and responsibilities

3961
02:02:13,292 --> 02:02:13,826
inherent in any business

3962
02:02:13,826 --> 02:02:15,294
venture. It does not entitle

3963
02:02:15,294 --> 02:02:16,996
anyone to a certain return on

3964
02:02:16,996 --> 02:02:18,497
investment, nor does it make

3965
02:02:18,497 --> 02:02:19,532
them exempt from the rules and

3966
02:02:19,532 --> 02:02:20,466
expectations of fair behavior.

3967
02:02:20,466 --> 02:02:24,937
we expect in any other industry.

3968
02:02:24,937 --> 02:02:27,206
arbitrary, hidden or specious

3969
02:02:27,206 --> 02:02:28,674
fees like pet rent are annoying

3970
02:02:28,674 --> 02:02:30,376
at best and dishonest at worst.

3971
02:02:30,376 --> 02:02:31,877
all this legislation does is

3972
02:02:31,877 --> 02:02:32,545
make sure consumers are given

3973
02:02:32,545 --> 02:02:34,346
the same level of protection

3974
02:02:34,346 --> 02:02:35,181
that they would expect in any

3975
02:02:35,181 --> 02:02:36,449
other business. I urge the

3976
02:02:36,449 --> 02:02:37,850
council to pass this common

3977
02:02:37,850 --> 02:02:39,251
sense bill with amendments a and

3978
02:02:39,251 --> 02:02:40,853
e, and unamended by c and d

3979
02:02:40,853 --> 02:02:42,288
without delay.

3980
02:02:42,288 --> 02:02:43,322
-- thank you carl. Next we have

3981
02:02:43,322 --> 02:02:45,424
holly, followed by guinevere,

3982
02:02:45,424 --> 02:02:47,493
nina and jeff, and we'll go

3983
02:02:47,493 --> 02:02:48,794
online. Welcome, holly.

3984
02:02:48,794 --> 02:02:50,463
-- good afternoon,

3985
02:02:50,463 --> 02:02:51,063
councilmembers. Holly willis

3986
02:02:51,063 --> 02:02:52,331
with the seattle king county

3987
02:02:52,331 --> 02:02:54,100
coalition on homelessness, and a

3988
02:02:54,100 --> 02:02:56,068
renter and pet owner in district

3989
02:02:56,068 --> 02:02:57,903
five. I'm here today in strong

3990
02:02:57,903 --> 02:03:00,740
support of the junk fee

3991
02:03:00,740 --> 02:03:01,273
legislation sponsored by

3992
02:03:01,273 --> 02:03:02,441
councilmember foster and in

3993
02:03:02,441 --> 02:03:04,944
opposition to amendments c and d

3994
02:03:04,944 --> 02:03:06,645
junk fees, including pet rent,

3995
02:03:06,645 --> 02:03:09,949
raise costs for renters, often

3996
02:03:09,949 --> 02:03:11,817
in ways they don't expect and

3997
02:03:11,817 --> 02:03:12,852
can't afford. That leaves

3998
02:03:12,852 --> 02:03:15,721
people with few options and

3999
02:03:15,721 --> 02:03:18,023
fuels our crisis of people being

4000
02:03:18,023 --> 02:03:20,025
evicted into homelessness. Pet

4001
02:03:20,025 --> 02:03:22,495
rent is a scam. It should be

4002
02:03:22,495 --> 02:03:24,196
banned outright. People would

4003
02:03:24,196 --> 02:03:25,898
freak out if a landlord charged

4004
02:03:25,898 --> 02:03:28,134
rent to a baby. Why do we allow

4005
02:03:28,134 --> 02:03:31,771
them to charge rent to a cat or

4006
02:03:31,771 --> 02:03:33,839
a dog? Please take this

4007
02:03:33,839 --> 02:03:35,074
afternoon to support renters and

4008
02:03:35,074 --> 02:03:36,275
support trans people. Thank you.

4009
02:03:36,275 --> 02:03:37,676
-- thank you. Next we have

4010
02:03:37,676 --> 02:03:39,044
guinevere, followed by nina and

4011
02:03:39,044 --> 02:03:41,514
then jeff. Thank you, holly.

4012
02:03:41,514 --> 02:03:43,149
guinevere, welcome

4013
02:03:43,149 --> 02:03:47,019
-- thank you. Council, I call on

4014
02:03:47,019 --> 02:03:49,555
you today to pass the ban on

4015
02:03:49,555 --> 02:03:53,559
junk fees for renters and also,

4016
02:03:53,559 --> 02:03:55,528
I believe that even if that ban

4017
02:03:55,528 --> 02:03:58,831
were passed, it doesn't ban

4018
02:03:58,831 --> 02:04:00,599
rubs, which can pass on hundreds

4019
02:04:00,599 --> 02:04:04,436
of dollars of utility fees from

4020
02:04:04,436 --> 02:04:07,706
the landlord to the renter. So

4021
02:04:07,706 --> 02:04:11,610
we need to ban that as well. And

4022
02:04:11,610 --> 02:04:13,846
again, thank you for the 300 000

4023
02:04:13,846 --> 02:04:15,381
amended for the trans refugee

4024
02:04:15,381 --> 02:04:16,482
crisis. I want you to pass the

4025
02:04:16,482 --> 02:04:17,683
budget with that in there. But

4026
02:04:17,683 --> 02:04:20,886
again, that's just a start. And

4027
02:04:20,886 --> 02:04:22,054
also, I'm aware of the

4028
02:04:22,054 --> 02:04:24,790
potential for the city to pass

4029
02:04:24,790 --> 02:04:26,058
that $300,000 and then in the

4030
02:04:26,058 --> 02:04:30,029
coming months, defund housing by

4031
02:04:30,029 --> 02:04:31,463
1 to 5 million so that the trans

4032
02:04:31,463 --> 02:04:33,732
people who come here will have

4033
02:04:33,732 --> 02:04:35,100
nowhere to live. So I want to be

4034
02:04:35,100 --> 02:04:37,870
aware that we're not falling for

4035
02:04:37,870 --> 02:04:40,206
the city's tricks on that.

4036
02:04:40,206 --> 02:04:40,506
thank you.

4037
02:04:40,506 --> 02:04:41,674
-- thank you, guinevere. Next we

4038
02:04:41,674 --> 02:04:44,510
have nina, followed by jeff and

4039
02:04:44,510 --> 02:04:46,212
guinevere. You always have the

4040
02:04:46,212 --> 02:04:48,214
flyest glasses. By the way. The

4041
02:04:48,214 --> 02:04:51,584
sunglasses. They're always cool.

4042
02:04:51,584 --> 02:04:51,984
nina. Then jeff.

4043
02:04:51,984 --> 02:04:53,285
-- hi there.

4044
02:04:53,285 --> 02:04:55,020
-- I'm nina, trans woman living

4045
02:04:55,020 --> 02:04:56,288
in district five. I'm here to

4046
02:04:56,288 --> 02:04:57,957
urge the city council to pass a

4047
02:04:57,957 --> 02:05:00,693
b 1212, five three with

4048
02:05:00,693 --> 02:05:01,360
amendment five intact. The funds

4049
02:05:01,360 --> 02:05:03,696
are already there. The committee

4050
02:05:03,696 --> 02:05:04,330
has recommended its passing and

4051
02:05:04,330 --> 02:05:05,564
so many here today have

4052
02:05:05,564 --> 02:05:07,099
explained the profound effect

4053
02:05:07,099 --> 02:05:07,933
this funding will have. I have a

4054
02:05:07,933 --> 02:05:08,968
partner that would not be here

4055
02:05:08,968 --> 02:05:10,603
were it not for orgs like

4056
02:05:10,603 --> 02:05:12,905
traction. Our new sisters,

4057
02:05:12,905 --> 02:05:14,139
brothers and all the others can

4058
02:05:14,139 --> 02:05:17,243
and will thrive if we survive.

4059
02:05:17,243 --> 02:05:18,344
and this funding gives us a

4060
02:05:18,344 --> 02:05:19,445
chance to do so. Thank you.

4061
02:05:19,445 --> 02:05:21,380
-- thank you nina. Next we have

4062
02:05:21,380 --> 02:05:22,481
jeff paul, and then we're going

4063
02:05:22,481 --> 02:05:26,519
to jump right online to cliff

4064
02:05:26,519 --> 02:05:29,955
cawthorn. Is jeff paul, pardon

4065
02:05:29,955 --> 02:05:31,690
me. Jeff is.

4066
02:05:31,690 --> 02:05:32,124
-- going to email.

4067
02:05:32,124 --> 02:05:33,559
-- oh, email. Okay. Sorry. Thank

4068
02:05:33,559 --> 02:05:36,395
you, thank you. Kate. Okay.

4069
02:05:36,395 --> 02:05:37,897
we'll jump on to online. So

4070
02:05:37,897 --> 02:05:40,032
we'll go to cliff followed by

4071
02:05:40,032 --> 02:05:43,002
rachel star six to unmute

4072
02:05:43,002 --> 02:05:48,507
yourself. Thank you. Star six we

4073
02:05:48,507 --> 02:05:51,443
have about 20 more speakers.

4074
02:05:51,443 --> 02:05:53,712
-- there we go. Good afternoon,

4075
02:05:53,712 --> 02:05:54,880
council members. Can you all

4076
02:05:54,880 --> 02:05:57,516
hear me?

4077
02:05:57,516 --> 02:05:59,318
-- yes, yes.

4078
02:05:59,318 --> 02:06:00,653
-- oh, perfect. My name is cliff

4079
02:06:00,653 --> 02:06:02,555
cawthorn. I'm here today at

4080
02:06:02,555 --> 02:06:04,023
seattle residents. And you know

4081
02:06:04,023 --> 02:06:06,225
me, my background in housing

4082
02:06:06,225 --> 02:06:07,927
policy. I'm here in support of

4083
02:06:07,927 --> 02:06:10,729
council bills one 21254. So that

4084
02:06:10,729 --> 02:06:12,431
ban junk. I'm also in support

4085
02:06:12,431 --> 02:06:14,667
of amendment a and e in strong

4086
02:06:14,667 --> 02:06:17,269
opposition to amendment c and d.

4087
02:06:17,269 --> 02:06:19,471
so first off thank you,

4088
02:06:19,471 --> 02:06:20,005
councilmember foster your

4089
02:06:20,005 --> 02:06:20,573
leadership on this. And for

4090
02:06:20,573 --> 02:06:22,675
mayor wilson for proposing this

4091
02:06:22,675 --> 02:06:23,943
right now. Seattleites like

4092
02:06:23,943 --> 02:06:25,010
people across the country are on

4093
02:06:25,010 --> 02:06:27,646
the back foot when it comes to

4094
02:06:27,646 --> 02:06:28,280
affordability, banning predatory

4095
02:06:28,280 --> 02:06:29,682
and deceptive junk fees and

4096
02:06:29,682 --> 02:06:31,450
requiring landlords be

4097
02:06:31,450 --> 02:06:32,985
transparent are just a no

4098
02:06:32,985 --> 02:06:35,454
brainer. These fees do not

4099
02:06:35,454 --> 02:06:36,088
contribute tenants well-being.

4100
02:06:36,088 --> 02:06:37,423
they cover no real operations

4101
02:06:37,423 --> 02:06:39,391
cost uses contribute to homeless

4102
02:06:39,391 --> 02:06:41,427
displacement, rising housing

4103
02:06:41,427 --> 02:06:42,795
costs and put barriers to

4104
02:06:42,795 --> 02:06:44,196
housing for those in place. For

4105
02:06:44,196 --> 02:06:45,864
those who are the most

4106
02:06:45,864 --> 02:06:47,366
vulnerable in our housing

4107
02:06:47,366 --> 02:06:49,234
ecosystem, trans people fleeing

4108
02:06:49,234 --> 02:06:51,036
oppressive states, we need to

4109
02:06:51,036 --> 02:06:51,670
pass this legislation protecting

4110
02:06:51,670 --> 02:06:53,739
empower renters, ensure

4111
02:06:53,739 --> 02:06:55,874
transparency from tenants. We

4112
02:06:55,874 --> 02:06:57,142
support this legislation. Please

4113
02:06:57,142 --> 02:06:57,443
support a.

4114
02:06:57,443 --> 02:06:58,043
-- thank you, cliff. Next, we

4115
02:06:58,043 --> 02:07:00,379
have rachel raj, followed by

4116
02:07:00,379 --> 02:07:04,249
kendra star six. To unmute

4117
02:07:04,249 --> 02:07:04,516
yourself.

4118
02:07:04,516 --> 02:07:06,352
-- good afternoon,

4119
02:07:06,352 --> 02:07:07,786
councilmembers. My name is

4120
02:07:07,786 --> 02:07:09,421
rachel raj and I'm the

4121
02:07:09,421 --> 02:07:11,657
executive director of seattle

4122
02:07:11,657 --> 02:07:13,859
veterinary outreach, a local

4123
02:07:13,859 --> 02:07:14,493
nonprofit providing veterinary

4124
02:07:14,493 --> 02:07:16,428
care and human services for

4125
02:07:16,428 --> 02:07:17,796
people experiencing homelessness

4126
02:07:17,796 --> 02:07:19,832
and low income families. I'm

4127
02:07:19,832 --> 02:07:21,333
here today on behalf of behalf

4128
02:07:21,333 --> 02:07:23,168
of the clients that we work

4129
02:07:23,168 --> 02:07:24,770
with, we see firsthand how

4130
02:07:24,770 --> 02:07:26,505
difficult it is to access

4131
02:07:26,505 --> 02:07:30,309
housing with a pet in 2025, 28%

4132
02:07:30,309 --> 02:07:32,011
of the clients we saw came to us

4133
02:07:32,011 --> 02:07:34,113
with urgency because they needed

4134
02:07:34,113 --> 02:07:36,315
veterinary care to meet

4135
02:07:36,315 --> 02:07:38,617
emergency shelters or housing

4136
02:07:38,617 --> 02:07:39,618
related vaccine requirements. So

4137
02:07:39,618 --> 02:07:42,488
far this year, that number has

4138
02:07:42,488 --> 02:07:44,156
increased to 38%. When our

4139
02:07:44,156 --> 02:07:46,458
clients are faced with ongoing

4140
02:07:46,458 --> 02:07:48,961
pet fees that makes housing out

4141
02:07:48,961 --> 02:07:50,396
of their reach, many will choose

4142
02:07:50,396 --> 02:07:53,198
to remain unhoused rather than

4143
02:07:53,198 --> 02:07:53,799
surrender their companion. I

4144
02:07:53,799 --> 02:07:55,401
urge you to include protections

4145
02:07:55,401 --> 02:07:58,237
against ongoing pet rental fees.

4146
02:07:58,237 --> 02:07:59,338
housing should be accessible,

4147
02:07:59,338 --> 02:08:00,706
and no one and no one should

4148
02:08:00,706 --> 02:08:02,074
have to choose between a safe

4149
02:08:02,074 --> 02:08:03,742
place to live and the pet that

4150
02:08:03,742 --> 02:08:05,344
they love. Thank you for your

4151
02:08:05,344 --> 02:08:05,544
time.

4152
02:08:05,544 --> 02:08:06,545
-- awesome. Thank you rachel.

4153
02:08:06,545 --> 02:08:09,848
next, we have kendra, followed

4154
02:08:09,848 --> 02:08:15,287
by kendall star six.

4155
02:08:15,287 --> 02:08:16,855
-- good afternoon council. My

4156
02:08:16,855 --> 02:08:17,623
name is ken. I'm a candidate

4157
02:08:17,623 --> 02:08:18,757
member with the american party

4158
02:08:18,757 --> 02:08:20,059
of labor, and it is imperative

4159
02:08:20,059 --> 02:08:22,027
that you pass this funding for

4160
02:08:22,027 --> 02:08:23,562
trans resources, especially

4161
02:08:23,562 --> 02:08:24,997
seeing how this council and the

4162
02:08:24,997 --> 02:08:26,398
mayor have chosen time and time

4163
02:08:26,398 --> 02:08:27,733
again to ignore the trans

4164
02:08:27,733 --> 02:08:29,134
community in the past. As a

4165
02:08:29,134 --> 02:08:30,436
reminder, council, it is your

4166
02:08:30,436 --> 02:08:31,837
duty to protect and provide for

4167
02:08:31,837 --> 02:08:33,405
these communities through

4168
02:08:33,405 --> 02:08:35,240
programs, through funding, and

4169
02:08:35,240 --> 02:08:36,942
through actual human decency,

4170
02:08:36,942 --> 02:08:37,443
not just apologies and

4171
02:08:37,443 --> 02:08:38,343
sympathies from behind a

4172
02:08:38,343 --> 02:08:39,745
microphone. The american party

4173
02:08:39,745 --> 02:08:41,113
of labor will continue to ensure

4174
02:08:41,113 --> 02:08:42,681
the trans community are able to

4175
02:08:42,681 --> 02:08:44,049
defend themselves against those

4176
02:08:44,049 --> 02:08:47,486
who wish to harm and erase them

4177
02:08:47,486 --> 02:08:48,987
against nazis and against spd

4178
02:08:48,987 --> 02:08:50,322
who protect these nazis and have

4179
02:08:50,322 --> 02:08:51,790
themselves directly terrorized.

4180
02:08:51,790 --> 02:08:52,825
the trans community, as we saw

4181
02:08:52,825 --> 02:08:55,094
last may, any further class

4182
02:08:55,094 --> 02:08:56,995
treachery and outright apathy

4183
02:08:56,995 --> 02:08:57,896
from this council and the city

4184
02:08:57,896 --> 02:09:00,032
against these communities will

4185
02:09:00,032 --> 02:09:02,434
only strengthen apl's resolve to

4186
02:09:02,434 --> 02:09:03,068
guarantee community autonomy by

4187
02:09:03,068 --> 02:09:05,404
and through any means necessary.

4188
02:09:05,404 --> 02:09:07,072
if you are a member of a

4189
02:09:07,072 --> 02:09:09,007
marginalized community, trans or

4190
02:09:09,007 --> 02:09:12,344
otherwise, and protect yourself,

4191
02:09:12,344 --> 02:09:12,945
contact the american party of

4192
02:09:12,945 --> 02:09:13,812
labor. And, in the words of the

4193
02:09:13,812 --> 02:09:15,481
dead kennedys, lynch your

4194
02:09:15,481 --> 02:09:17,716
landlord. Thank you.

4195
02:09:17,716 --> 02:09:20,419
-- thank you ken. Next we have

4196
02:09:20,419 --> 02:09:30,963
paul, followed by adrian, paul

4197
02:09:33,532 --> 02:09:34,466
-- good afternoon council. My

4198
02:09:34,466 --> 02:09:35,667
name is paul stevens and I'm a

4199
02:09:35,667 --> 02:09:36,835
renter in district three.

4200
02:09:36,835 --> 02:09:38,370
speaking in support for the junk

4201
02:09:38,370 --> 02:09:40,506
fee legislation. This issue

4202
02:09:40,506 --> 02:09:43,242
directly affects me as I've

4203
02:09:43,242 --> 02:09:44,743
always refused to pay these junk

4204
02:09:44,743 --> 02:09:46,845
fees. As a result, these

4205
02:09:46,845 --> 02:09:47,479
slumlords and credit reporting

4206
02:09:47,479 --> 02:09:49,047
companies are falsely portraying

4207
02:09:49,047 --> 02:09:52,885
this refusal as rental arrears I

4208
02:09:52,885 --> 02:09:54,686
urge the councilmembers to

4209
02:09:54,686 --> 02:09:55,320
listen to your constituents and

4210
02:09:55,320 --> 02:09:57,222
not the slumlords, who largely

4211
02:09:57,222 --> 02:09:59,391
live outside of the city. Shame

4212
02:09:59,391 --> 02:10:01,193
on councilmember kettle for

4213
02:10:01,193 --> 02:10:01,827
proposing amendments that weaken

4214
02:10:01,827 --> 02:10:03,629
this badly needed piece of

4215
02:10:03,629 --> 02:10:05,998
legislation not for their

4216
02:10:05,998 --> 02:10:08,167
continual malfeasance. This new

4217
02:10:08,167 --> 02:10:09,468
legislation would be

4218
02:10:09,468 --> 02:10:10,469
unnecessary. It is my

4219
02:10:10,469 --> 02:10:12,704
understanding that pet rent is

4220
02:10:12,704 --> 02:10:15,607
already illegal under smc seven,

4221
02:10:15,607 --> 02:10:18,043
2438 section e one lords have

4222
02:10:18,043 --> 02:10:19,678
been blatantly disregarding the

4223
02:10:19,678 --> 02:10:21,046
law for far too long. This is

4224
02:10:21,046 --> 02:10:23,782
why strong enforcement

4225
02:10:23,782 --> 02:10:25,818
mechanisms are needed. Junk fees

4226
02:10:25,818 --> 02:10:26,919
are fraudulent and need to be

4227
02:10:26,919 --> 02:10:30,189
prosecuted. As such, I strongly

4228
02:10:30,189 --> 02:10:30,823
encourage councilmembers to pass

4229
02:10:30,823 --> 02:10:33,358
this legislation without any

4230
02:10:33,358 --> 02:10:38,030
weakening amendments. Also

4231
02:10:38,030 --> 02:10:38,363
support the.

4232
02:10:38,363 --> 02:10:39,464
-- thank you. Next we have

4233
02:10:39,464 --> 02:10:40,899
andrew lin, followed by lydia

4234
02:10:40,899 --> 02:10:50,742
and then cedar star six.

4235
02:10:50,742 --> 02:10:51,310
-- good afternoon,

4236
02:10:51,310 --> 02:10:52,811
councilmembers. My name is

4237
02:10:52,811 --> 02:10:55,113
angelina. I'm a human rights

4238
02:10:55,113 --> 02:10:55,681
activist from pierce county

4239
02:10:55,681 --> 02:10:58,951
district two. So from this

4240
02:10:58,951 --> 02:10:59,551
morning, seattle city council

4241
02:10:59,551 --> 02:11:01,787
public safety committee meeting

4242
02:11:01,787 --> 02:11:02,988
on the topic of king county

4243
02:11:02,988 --> 02:11:06,458
jail, medical referral data,

4244
02:11:06,458 --> 02:11:10,162
mentioning by ian goodhue of the

4245
02:11:10,162 --> 02:11:12,264
same exam, aka sexual assault

4246
02:11:12,264 --> 02:11:13,899
nurse examination and the delays

4247
02:11:13,899 --> 02:11:15,267
that can occur. Included in

4248
02:11:15,267 --> 02:11:18,770
between the time of initiation

4249
02:11:18,770 --> 02:11:21,206
of nurse consultation of the

4250
02:11:21,206 --> 02:11:23,308
usual vitals to the certified

4251
02:11:23,308 --> 02:11:25,844
licensed nurse trained in a

4252
02:11:25,844 --> 02:11:26,478
specific legal task associated

4253
02:11:26,478 --> 02:11:29,314
with the steps to do a same

4254
02:11:29,314 --> 02:11:31,149
exam. I formally request this

4255
02:11:31,149 --> 02:11:33,418
day of august 11th, 2026 for our

4256
02:11:33,418 --> 02:11:34,987
standards and laws to allow an

4257
02:11:34,987 --> 02:11:39,524
extension for at least seven

4258
02:11:39,524 --> 02:11:41,560
days instead of five days for

4259
02:11:41,560 --> 02:11:43,228
dna can still be detected via

4260
02:11:43,228 --> 02:11:44,596
swabbing, which is the main part

4261
02:11:44,596 --> 02:11:46,465
of the exam. Plus, I support

4262
02:11:46,465 --> 02:11:47,733
making rent affordable,

4263
02:11:47,733 --> 02:11:48,867
including removing pet rent.

4264
02:11:48,867 --> 02:11:50,369
thank you.

4265
02:11:50,369 --> 02:11:52,404
-- thank you. Next we have

4266
02:11:52,404 --> 02:11:55,674
lydia, followed by cedar and

4267
02:11:55,674 --> 02:12:01,947
then heather.

4268
02:12:01,947 --> 02:12:03,649
-- hi, my name is maria. I'm a

4269
02:12:03,649 --> 02:12:04,983
renter in dc as well as a

4270
02:12:04,983 --> 02:12:06,885
co-chair of the seattle renters

4271
02:12:06,885 --> 02:12:08,353
commission. So renters

4272
02:12:08,353 --> 02:12:09,855
commission supports banning junk

4273
02:12:09,855 --> 02:12:12,124
fees to reduce hidden and

4274
02:12:12,124 --> 02:12:12,724
unnecessary housing costs. As

4275
02:12:12,724 --> 02:12:13,792
renter advocates and renters

4276
02:12:13,792 --> 02:12:16,595
ourselves, we are no stranger to

4277
02:12:16,595 --> 02:12:17,863
the intimate impact of junk fees

4278
02:12:17,863 --> 02:12:20,365
on housing stability. This

4279
02:12:20,365 --> 02:12:20,832
legislation is about

4280
02:12:20,832 --> 02:12:22,401
transparency and predictability,

4281
02:12:22,401 --> 02:12:24,303
and it's about upholding the

4282
02:12:24,303 --> 02:12:25,704
renter protections that are

4283
02:12:25,704 --> 02:12:28,473
designed to protect renters from

4284
02:12:28,473 --> 02:12:29,675
price gouging, prevent and

4285
02:12:29,675 --> 02:12:30,309
prevent landlords from setting

4286
02:12:30,309 --> 02:12:31,810
fair. It does not prevent

4287
02:12:31,810 --> 02:12:33,211
landlords from setting fair

4288
02:12:33,211 --> 02:12:34,346
market rents or charging for

4289
02:12:34,346 --> 02:12:38,250
truly opt in services. As such,

4290
02:12:38,250 --> 02:12:38,750
the commission supports

4291
02:12:38,750 --> 02:12:39,718
amendment a and e, which

4292
02:12:39,718 --> 02:12:41,620
strengthen this legislation and

4293
02:12:41,620 --> 02:12:42,220
we oppose amendment c and d,

4294
02:12:42,220 --> 02:12:45,057
which create loopholes that

4295
02:12:45,057 --> 02:12:45,590
would allow landlords to

4296
02:12:45,590 --> 02:12:47,693
continue charging these

4297
02:12:47,693 --> 02:12:50,028
unnecessary rental fees. This

4298
02:12:50,028 --> 02:12:51,663
comprehensive ban is critical to

4299
02:12:51,663 --> 02:12:54,566
ensuring renters have accurate

4300
02:12:54,566 --> 02:12:55,200
information about housing that

4301
02:12:55,200 --> 02:12:58,704
landlords can compete in a fair

4302
02:12:58,704 --> 02:12:59,338
market, and that new protections

4303
02:12:59,338 --> 02:13:02,574
are enforceable. We urge you to

4304
02:13:02,574 --> 02:13:04,242
pass this ban on rental junk

4305
02:13:04,242 --> 02:13:04,810
fees with the strengthening

4306
02:13:04,810 --> 02:13:07,245
amendments a and e, and to

4307
02:13:07,245 --> 02:13:07,512
reject.

4308
02:13:07,512 --> 02:13:08,847
-- awesome. Thank you. Lydia.

4309
02:13:08,847 --> 02:13:09,715
next, we have we have eight more

4310
02:13:09,715 --> 02:13:10,849
speakers online. This is just a

4311
02:13:10,849 --> 02:13:12,417
time check. We have eight more

4312
02:13:12,417 --> 02:13:13,018
speakers online. And we have

4313
02:13:13,018 --> 02:13:15,787
one, two, three, four, five more

4314
02:13:15,787 --> 02:13:17,022
in person. I don't know if

4315
02:13:17,022 --> 02:13:17,622
there's any signed up over

4316
02:13:17,622 --> 02:13:19,658
there. Okay, so eight online and

4317
02:13:19,658 --> 02:13:21,393
then five more in person. So

4318
02:13:21,393 --> 02:13:27,833
cedar, you are well, star six

4319
02:13:27,833 --> 02:13:28,166
you're up.

4320
02:13:28,166 --> 02:13:30,702
-- hello. Can you guys hear me?

4321
02:13:30,702 --> 02:13:31,837
-- yes we can. Can you hear me?

4322
02:13:31,837 --> 02:13:33,872
loud and clear

4323
02:13:33,872 --> 02:13:36,708
-- hi. My name. My name is peter

4324
02:13:36,708 --> 02:13:39,811
and I am here to speak on

4325
02:13:39,811 --> 02:13:43,215
becoming charges that we are

4326
02:13:43,215 --> 02:13:45,450
facing as a country in the midst

4327
02:13:45,450 --> 02:13:48,720
of our food financial crisis and

4328
02:13:48,720 --> 02:13:50,222
our water crisis due to

4329
02:13:50,222 --> 02:13:51,890
surveillance centers and

4330
02:13:51,890 --> 02:13:56,061
destroying the water for the

4331
02:13:56,061 --> 02:13:56,695
elites in this country, we are

4332
02:13:56,695 --> 02:13:58,497
also taking steps to expand our

4333
02:13:58,497 --> 02:14:00,132
police surveillance state by

4334
02:14:00,132 --> 02:14:04,202
putting up more flock and axon

4335
02:14:04,202 --> 02:14:06,271
and alpr cameras that are

4336
02:14:06,271 --> 02:14:08,874
further infringing upon our

4337
02:14:08,874 --> 02:14:09,741
fourth amendment rights. We

4338
02:14:09,741 --> 02:14:11,476
can't ever really seem to find

4339
02:14:11,476 --> 02:14:12,944
the money for social programs,

4340
02:14:12,944 --> 02:14:14,112
but we can always seem to find

4341
02:14:14,112 --> 02:14:17,716
more money to pay the police who

4342
02:14:17,716 --> 02:14:22,721
constantly beat our civilians

4343
02:14:22,721 --> 02:14:25,791
and many departments, including

4344
02:14:25,791 --> 02:14:28,727
bellevue, is actually under

4345
02:14:28,727 --> 02:14:29,294
investigation for child sex

4346
02:14:29,294 --> 02:14:32,631
trafficking. So we should fund

4347
02:14:32,631 --> 02:14:34,499
the police a lot less, and we

4348
02:14:34,499 --> 02:14:36,068
should actually put more money

4349
02:14:36,068 --> 02:14:38,904
into the farm.

4350
02:14:38,904 --> 02:14:44,209
-- thank you. Next we have

4351
02:14:44,209 --> 02:14:47,212
heather followed by magdalena.

4352
02:14:47,212 --> 02:14:49,347
-- hi. Council president and

4353
02:14:49,347 --> 02:14:49,948
councilmembers. I'm heather

4354
02:14:49,948 --> 02:14:51,183
smith from capitol hill pike

4355
02:14:51,183 --> 02:14:53,151
pine neighborhood. I'm speaking

4356
02:14:53,151 --> 02:14:55,787
in support of council bill one

4357
02:14:55,787 --> 02:14:57,589
two, one two, five three and

4358
02:14:57,589 --> 02:14:59,758
directing funding for community

4359
02:14:59,758 --> 02:15:01,793
based violence interrupters to

4360
02:15:01,793 --> 02:15:02,861
capitol hill. Just last night,

4361
02:15:02,861 --> 02:15:04,830
another person was shot at cal

4362
02:15:04,830 --> 02:15:06,164
anderson park. That brings the

4363
02:15:06,164 --> 02:15:07,365
number of shootings we have

4364
02:15:07,365 --> 02:15:09,201
documented in the greater pike

4365
02:15:09,201 --> 02:15:12,804
pine to 2626 in just three

4366
02:15:12,804 --> 02:15:17,576
years, all within a very small

4367
02:15:17,576 --> 02:15:19,110
geographic area. Our pike pine

4368
02:15:19,110 --> 02:15:20,812
community and our nightlife

4369
02:15:20,812 --> 02:15:22,914
district in cal anderson park

4370
02:15:22,914 --> 02:15:25,450
need a coordinated, sustained

4371
02:15:25,450 --> 02:15:26,017
public safety strategy with

4372
02:15:26,017 --> 02:15:29,020
consistent resources, clear

4373
02:15:29,020 --> 02:15:29,454
responsibility and

4374
02:15:29,454 --> 02:15:31,056
accountability. The seattle fire

4375
02:15:31,056 --> 02:15:32,858
department and seattle police

4376
02:15:32,858 --> 02:15:34,426
department should not be the

4377
02:15:34,426 --> 02:15:36,061
only responders to issues around

4378
02:15:36,061 --> 02:15:38,530
the clock. Pike pine is also an

4379
02:15:38,530 --> 02:15:41,399
important economic driver for

4380
02:15:41,399 --> 02:15:42,033
seattle. Violence interrupters

4381
02:15:42,033 --> 02:15:44,569
can help identify escalating

4382
02:15:44,569 --> 02:15:47,139
conflicts, build relationships

4383
02:15:47,139 --> 02:15:48,673
with people at the highest risk

4384
02:15:48,673 --> 02:15:52,210
of violence, intervene before.

4385
02:15:52,210 --> 02:15:53,578
-- thank you. Heather. Next, we

4386
02:15:53,578 --> 02:15:54,946
have magdalena, followed by erin

4387
02:15:54,946 --> 02:16:01,119
and elizabeth.

4388
02:16:01,119 --> 02:16:01,520
-- am I unmuted?

4389
02:16:01,520 --> 02:16:05,290
-- we can hear you.

4390
02:16:05,290 --> 02:16:08,760
-- wonderful. Hello, council.

4391
02:16:08,760 --> 02:16:11,363
you are legislating right now

4392
02:16:11,363 --> 02:16:14,666
for the age, not the hour. The

4393
02:16:14,666 --> 02:16:16,935
hour is the empire around us

4394
02:16:16,935 --> 02:16:19,371
that is falling, but the age

4395
02:16:19,371 --> 02:16:21,373
that is coming is one in which

4396
02:16:21,373 --> 02:16:23,942
the city will still exist. In

4397
02:16:23,942 --> 02:16:25,477
that time, they will look to the

4398
02:16:25,477 --> 02:16:28,079
precedents that you established

4399
02:16:28,079 --> 02:16:29,714
during this time of transition.

4400
02:16:29,714 --> 02:16:32,350
whether you acknowledge that

4401
02:16:32,350 --> 02:16:34,452
transition coming or not, it has

4402
02:16:34,452 --> 02:16:36,021
happened to all empires. It will

4403
02:16:36,021 --> 02:16:40,892
happen to ours. What legacy will

4404
02:16:40,892 --> 02:16:42,761
you leave? When trans people

4405
02:16:42,761 --> 02:16:43,895
were priestesses of the temples

4406
02:16:43,895 --> 02:16:44,529
of inanna, europeans were still

4407
02:16:44,529 --> 02:16:45,864
living in mud huts and figuring

4408
02:16:45,864 --> 02:16:48,466
out how to make bronze. We are

4409
02:16:48,466 --> 02:16:51,336
the erinyes of the scythians. We

4410
02:16:51,336 --> 02:16:53,138
are the galli of the romans. We

4411
02:16:53,138 --> 02:16:55,073
have literally always existed,

4412
02:16:55,073 --> 02:16:56,241
and we will always exist, and we

4413
02:16:56,241 --> 02:16:58,176
will resist these fascists. And

4414
02:16:58,176 --> 02:17:00,412
you have to live with us after.

4415
02:17:00,412 --> 02:17:01,646
you have to live with the

4416
02:17:01,646 --> 02:17:02,614
results. Will you live with a

4417
02:17:02,614 --> 02:17:04,049
city that you have brought to

4418
02:17:04,049 --> 02:17:05,917
life by saving ours, and the

4419
02:17:05,917 --> 02:17:10,755
culture that we bring to create?

4420
02:17:10,755 --> 02:17:11,089
have you all.

4421
02:17:11,089 --> 02:17:12,924
-- thank you. Magdalena. Next we

4422
02:17:12,924 --> 02:17:14,759
have elizabeth, followed by

4423
02:17:14,759 --> 02:17:17,329
philip haley and matthew. And

4424
02:17:17,329 --> 02:17:22,167
we'll go back to in person

4425
02:17:22,167 --> 02:17:26,137
elizabeth, welcome. Star six to

4426
02:17:26,137 --> 02:17:33,545
unmute yourself, star six.

4427
02:17:33,545 --> 02:17:35,480
you're still on mute. Star six

4428
02:17:35,480 --> 02:17:37,916
there you go.

4429
02:17:37,916 --> 02:17:39,884
-- hello, hello. Thank you. This

4430
02:17:39,884 --> 02:17:41,886
is elizabeth marcus and I am a

4431
02:17:41,886 --> 02:17:43,488
resident of the green lake

4432
02:17:43,488 --> 02:17:47,259
neighborhood, and I have been a

4433
02:17:47,259 --> 02:17:50,028
landlord in the past, and I

4434
02:17:50,028 --> 02:17:54,899
strongly oppose junk fees. I

4435
02:17:54,899 --> 02:17:57,669
take that as a responsibility to

4436
02:17:57,669 --> 02:17:59,671
keep people housed and not as

4437
02:17:59,671 --> 02:18:01,973
something to make a profit off

4438
02:18:01,973 --> 02:18:03,508
of, at the expense of the people

4439
02:18:03,508 --> 02:18:07,746
who need housing. I also

4440
02:18:07,746 --> 02:18:09,581
strongly support the funding for

4441
02:18:09,581 --> 02:18:13,418
the trans community, and I would

4442
02:18:13,418 --> 02:18:16,221
love to say that I oppose this

4443
02:18:16,221 --> 02:18:18,390
amendment c and d, thank you so

4444
02:18:18,390 --> 02:18:18,590
much.

4445
02:18:18,590 --> 02:18:20,625
-- thank you. Elizabeth. Next we

4446
02:18:20,625 --> 02:18:21,259
have philip, followed by haley

4447
02:18:21,259 --> 02:18:21,993
and then matthew. And then we'll

4448
02:18:21,993 --> 02:18:32,370
go to our in person.

4449
02:18:32,937 --> 02:18:37,575
I, philip, you might be muted on

4450
02:18:37,575 --> 02:18:41,313
your phone, philip, but you are

4451
02:18:41,313 --> 02:18:41,713
off mute for us.

4452
02:18:41,713 --> 02:18:42,414
-- hi I apologize, can you hear

4453
02:18:42,414 --> 02:18:43,181
me now?

4454
02:18:43,181 --> 02:18:46,151
-- yes, we can

4455
02:18:46,151 --> 02:18:48,853
-- thank you. My name is philip

4456
02:18:48,853 --> 02:18:51,122
roth. I am a small landlord in

4457
02:18:51,122 --> 02:18:52,290
the ravenna neighborhood. I

4458
02:18:52,290 --> 02:18:53,992
would also like to speak out in

4459
02:18:53,992 --> 02:18:58,863
opposition to junk fees. As a

4460
02:18:58,863 --> 02:19:00,732
property owner, I find myself

4461
02:19:00,732 --> 02:19:04,069
lucky enough to help those who

4462
02:19:04,069 --> 02:19:06,137
do not own property stay in the

4463
02:19:06,137 --> 02:19:06,705
neighborhood at affordable

4464
02:19:06,705 --> 02:19:08,473
rates, and contribute to the

4465
02:19:08,473 --> 02:19:10,875
culture and diversity of my

4466
02:19:10,875 --> 02:19:12,243
neighborhood and the city in

4467
02:19:12,243 --> 02:19:17,082
general. I find junk fee is an

4468
02:19:17,082 --> 02:19:18,983
exorbitant charges to be

4469
02:19:18,983 --> 02:19:20,652
despicable, and I appreciate

4470
02:19:20,652 --> 02:19:21,252
everything you're doing to

4471
02:19:21,252 --> 02:19:24,889
combat them. I would also note

4472
02:19:24,889 --> 02:19:25,957
that any amendments diluting the

4473
02:19:25,957 --> 02:19:28,460
strength of that bill are not

4474
02:19:28,460 --> 02:19:29,894
wanted. The developers who are

4475
02:19:29,894 --> 02:19:32,464
in favor of this, and I and I

4476
02:19:32,464 --> 02:19:36,201
work for a developer separately,

4477
02:19:36,201 --> 02:19:37,569
are charging simply for their

4478
02:19:37,569 --> 02:19:45,577
own profits and.

4479
02:19:45,577 --> 02:19:48,913
-- you still have time, philip.

4480
02:19:48,913 --> 02:19:51,149
-- I apologize, I thought it

4481
02:19:51,149 --> 02:19:52,717
muted me. Yes, I just oppose

4482
02:19:52,717 --> 02:19:54,085
this. Thank you.

4483
02:19:54,085 --> 02:19:55,820
-- thank you philip. Next we

4484
02:19:55,820 --> 02:19:56,488
have haley followed by matthew.

4485
02:19:56,488 --> 02:20:07,065
and then we'll go to in person.

4486
02:20:07,565 --> 02:20:08,133
-- good afternoon,

4487
02:20:08,133 --> 02:20:09,801
councilmembers. My name is haley

4488
02:20:09,801 --> 02:20:11,102
and my company is a small

4489
02:20:11,102 --> 02:20:12,904
property owner, owner and

4490
02:20:12,904 --> 02:20:14,639
manager here in seattle. I'm

4491
02:20:14,639 --> 02:20:16,007
speaking today in support of

4492
02:20:16,007 --> 02:20:17,275
amendment t. Over the years,

4493
02:20:17,275 --> 02:20:19,377
we've invested in tailoring our

4494
02:20:19,377 --> 02:20:21,246
buildings to the needs of dog

4495
02:20:21,246 --> 02:20:22,814
owners, installing dog runs,

4496
02:20:22,814 --> 02:20:25,183
creating relief areas and adding

4497
02:20:25,183 --> 02:20:26,618
wash stations to muddy pods

4498
02:20:26,618 --> 02:20:29,154
don't end up on the carpet and

4499
02:20:29,154 --> 02:20:30,422
consistently cleaning up our

4500
02:20:30,422 --> 02:20:31,790
dogs who have accidents in the

4501
02:20:31,790 --> 02:20:34,225
elevators and lobbies. These

4502
02:20:34,225 --> 02:20:34,793
improvements cost money to

4503
02:20:34,793 --> 02:20:37,228
create and maintain, and they

4504
02:20:37,228 --> 02:20:38,797
benefit all of the tenants who

4505
02:20:38,797 --> 02:20:40,298
have dogs in the whole building.

4506
02:20:40,298 --> 02:20:46,070
kent rent it cut rent is how

4507
02:20:46,070 --> 02:20:46,671
those tenants pay their fair

4508
02:20:46,671 --> 02:20:47,338
share for what they're actually

4509
02:20:47,338 --> 02:20:48,006
using it. Without it, I'd have

4510
02:20:48,006 --> 02:20:48,606
to fold those costs into rent

4511
02:20:48,606 --> 02:20:49,507
for everyone, including tenants

4512
02:20:49,507 --> 02:20:51,176
who don't own a pet and never

4513
02:20:51,176 --> 02:20:53,144
touch these dog amenities or

4514
02:20:53,144 --> 02:20:54,445
require these cleaning services.

4515
02:20:54,445 --> 02:20:56,047
that's not fair. It's not

4516
02:20:56,047 --> 02:20:57,515
equitable. A small caps monthly

4517
02:20:57,515 --> 02:20:59,117
amount tied directly to the

4518
02:20:59,117 --> 02:21:01,152
amenities of fair way to do it.

4519
02:21:01,152 --> 02:21:03,521
otherwise, we'll have rent 1.5%

4520
02:21:03,521 --> 02:21:05,123
across the board. Please support

4521
02:21:05,123 --> 02:21:05,824
amendment c. Thank you so much

4522
02:21:05,824 --> 02:21:07,425
for your time.

4523
02:21:07,425 --> 02:21:08,226
-- thank you. Haley. Next we

4524
02:21:08,226 --> 02:21:09,994
have matthew, and then we'll go

4525
02:21:09,994 --> 02:21:12,297
right to in our in person

4526
02:21:12,297 --> 02:21:14,933
speakers, matthew star six.

4527
02:21:14,933 --> 02:21:17,302
-- hi there. I'm calling in

4528
02:21:17,302 --> 02:21:20,138
opposition to the funding for

4529
02:21:20,138 --> 02:21:21,840
trans refugees. I just don't

4530
02:21:21,840 --> 02:21:22,373
fully understand the term

4531
02:21:22,373 --> 02:21:23,575
refugee. And I think it's

4532
02:21:23,575 --> 02:21:26,711
disparaging to true refugees

4533
02:21:26,711 --> 02:21:27,712
from other countries that need

4534
02:21:27,712 --> 02:21:30,014
support and need funding. I

4535
02:21:30,014 --> 02:21:30,715
don't know why seattle

4536
02:21:30,715 --> 02:21:32,183
taxpayers are footing the bill

4537
02:21:32,183 --> 02:21:34,018
for people to move within the

4538
02:21:34,018 --> 02:21:35,286
same country. And I guess to

4539
02:21:35,286 --> 02:21:36,955
what end? I don't really

4540
02:21:36,955 --> 02:21:37,555
understand where this funding

4541
02:21:37,555 --> 02:21:40,825
will be allocated to and how

4542
02:21:40,825 --> 02:21:41,359
$300,000 really would be

4543
02:21:41,359 --> 02:21:43,628
supportive if it really is a

4544
02:21:43,628 --> 02:21:46,130
crisis as it is being played out

4545
02:21:46,130 --> 02:21:49,367
as. So I don't really understand

4546
02:21:49,367 --> 02:21:50,768
or support this very small

4547
02:21:50,768 --> 02:21:51,936
amount of funding to help a very

4548
02:21:51,936 --> 02:21:53,705
small number of people move

4549
02:21:53,705 --> 02:21:55,707
within the country.

4550
02:21:55,707 --> 02:21:56,407
-- thank you matthew. So now

4551
02:21:56,407 --> 02:21:57,675
we're going to go to in person,

4552
02:21:57,675 --> 02:22:00,311
we have lydia followed by m, and

4553
02:22:00,311 --> 02:22:02,680
we have david haynes, we have

4554
02:22:02,680 --> 02:22:03,915
kyle, we have ellen. Lydia,

4555
02:22:03,915 --> 02:22:07,685
welcome. Thank you all for your

4556
02:22:07,685 --> 02:22:07,952
patience.

4557
02:22:07,952 --> 02:22:12,223
-- lydia taylor. Okay. Hello. I

4558
02:22:12,223 --> 02:22:15,293
am here to testify in favor of

4559
02:22:15,293 --> 02:22:17,128
cb 121254 and banning pet rent

4560
02:22:17,128 --> 02:22:20,398
aka anti amendment c of this

4561
02:22:20,398 --> 02:22:22,333
bill and banning junk fees,

4562
02:22:22,333 --> 02:22:24,068
including amendment d, charging

4563
02:22:24,068 --> 02:22:24,702
renters, renter insurance on an

4564
02:22:24,702 --> 02:22:26,404
opt out basis. Because I believe

4565
02:22:26,404 --> 02:22:28,139
that obfuscates the landlord's

4566
02:22:28,139 --> 02:22:29,607
responsibility to the tenants.

4567
02:22:29,607 --> 02:22:30,275
there's much I could copy paste

4568
02:22:30,275 --> 02:22:32,410
from the seattle.gov office of

4569
02:22:32,410 --> 02:22:34,812
the city clerk. Legistar.com.

4570
02:22:34,812 --> 02:22:36,314
pages recital section. But

4571
02:22:36,314 --> 02:22:38,249
that's 20 minutes I don't have

4572
02:22:38,249 --> 02:22:39,317
with this microphone. And I'm

4573
02:22:39,317 --> 02:22:41,185
sure the councilors have seen

4574
02:22:41,185 --> 02:22:42,320
that document. I would encourage

4575
02:22:42,320 --> 02:22:43,488
everyone who hasn't to read it.

4576
02:22:43,488 --> 02:22:44,956
it's incredibly insightful.

4577
02:22:44,956 --> 02:22:46,558
what I will say is that as a

4578
02:22:46,558 --> 02:22:48,760
young progressive voter, this

4579
02:22:48,760 --> 02:22:49,360
legislation is exactly the

4580
02:22:49,360 --> 02:22:50,161
reason that we voted for the

4581
02:22:50,161 --> 02:22:53,765
likes of mayor wilson and bill

4582
02:22:53,765 --> 02:22:54,399
sponsor dionne foster to do for

4583
02:22:54,399 --> 02:22:57,201
us, because councilor foster

4584
02:22:57,201 --> 02:22:59,137
identified unaffordability as a

4585
02:22:59,137 --> 02:23:00,338
reason for gentrification of poc

4586
02:23:00,338 --> 02:23:04,108
and queer communities in her

4587
02:23:04,108 --> 02:23:07,845
campaign for office and and this

4588
02:23:07,845 --> 02:23:09,347
bill is simply living up to that

4589
02:23:09,347 --> 02:23:10,381
campaign promise to fight

4590
02:23:10,381 --> 02:23:11,416
against that in city hall. For

4591
02:23:11,416 --> 02:23:13,084
us.

4592
02:23:13,084 --> 02:23:15,019
-- thank you. Lydia. Next we

4593
02:23:15,019 --> 02:23:18,890
have m is m here thank m left m

4594
02:23:18,890 --> 02:23:21,859
okay, next we have david haynes.

4595
02:23:21,859 --> 02:23:24,896
welcome. And then we have kyle

4596
02:23:24,896 --> 02:23:27,131
and then ellen. Welcome mr.

4597
02:23:27,131 --> 02:23:27,365
haynes.

4598
02:23:27,365 --> 02:23:27,966
-- hi. How you doing?

4599
02:23:27,966 --> 02:23:30,268
-- I'm great. How are you?

4600
02:23:30,268 --> 02:23:30,902
-- streaming revolution. Living

4601
02:23:30,902 --> 02:23:34,072
a nightmare. Hi. My name is

4602
02:23:34,072 --> 02:23:37,508
david haynes. When you exempt

4603
02:23:37,508 --> 02:23:39,143
drug pushers from misdemeanor

4604
02:23:39,143 --> 02:23:40,878
prosecution, you allow for the

4605
02:23:40,878 --> 02:23:42,580
escalation of violence between

4606
02:23:42,580 --> 02:23:44,782
rival drug gangs. When you

4607
02:23:44,782 --> 02:23:45,883
finance nonprofits in the human

4608
02:23:45,883 --> 02:23:47,585
services department to run

4609
02:23:47,585 --> 02:23:50,755
interference for bipoc repeat

4610
02:23:50,755 --> 02:23:51,289
offending criminals, you

4611
02:23:51,289 --> 02:23:51,923
escalate the implosion of our

4612
02:23:51,923 --> 02:23:53,358
society and undermine the

4613
02:23:53,358 --> 02:23:53,992
integrity of public safety. The

4614
02:23:53,992 --> 02:23:56,494
thing is, I came down here today

4615
02:23:56,494 --> 02:23:58,730
because we need some legislation

4616
02:23:58,730 --> 02:23:59,230
to purge the landlords

4617
02:23:59,230 --> 02:24:01,566
sabotaging restrictions on the

4618
02:24:01,566 --> 02:24:02,266
comprehensive plan so we can

4619
02:24:02,266 --> 02:24:03,968
have a better built back city of

4620
02:24:03,968 --> 02:24:05,837
21st century, first world

4621
02:24:05,837 --> 02:24:06,671
quality housing that goes higher

4622
02:24:06,671 --> 02:24:08,740
than six stories for your

4623
02:24:08,740 --> 02:24:12,010
catering to, like watered down,

4624
02:24:12,010 --> 02:24:14,612
designed for nonprofits that are

4625
02:24:14,612 --> 02:24:15,146
politically connected to

4626
02:24:15,146 --> 02:24:19,417
warehouse, echo, third world,

4627
02:24:19,417 --> 02:24:20,084
modern inner city real estate.

4628
02:24:20,084 --> 02:24:22,854
the thing is, is like you should

4629
02:24:22,854 --> 02:24:25,256
be allowed to get your money

4630
02:24:25,256 --> 02:24:26,457
back within 24 hours. If you

4631
02:24:26,457 --> 02:24:27,058
call the landlord and say, I

4632
02:24:27,058 --> 02:24:28,726
want, I'm moving out within 30

4633
02:24:28,726 --> 02:24:30,094
days because this place is

4634
02:24:30,094 --> 02:24:32,997
double, triple, quadruple

4635
02:24:32,997 --> 02:24:34,565
inflated and you should be

4636
02:24:34,565 --> 02:24:35,133
allowed to renegotiate the

4637
02:24:35,133 --> 02:24:37,468
property value based on 2016,

4638
02:24:37,468 --> 02:24:41,439
when john wilson took over.

4639
02:24:41,439 --> 02:24:41,973
-- and thank you, david.

4640
02:24:41,973 --> 02:24:42,473
-- the property value.

4641
02:24:42,473 --> 02:24:43,608
-- thank you, mr. Haynes.

4642
02:24:43,608 --> 02:24:44,308
-- thanks. Right off some of the

4643
02:24:44,308 --> 02:24:44,942
debt for.

4644
02:24:44,942 --> 02:24:46,244
-- the ranch. Thank you, mr.

4645
02:24:46,244 --> 02:24:48,713
haynes. Next we have kyle

4646
02:24:48,713 --> 02:24:52,350
followed by ellen. Is kyle here?

4647
02:24:52,350 --> 02:24:55,953
no. Kyle. Kyle, kyle and then

4648
02:24:55,953 --> 02:24:57,422
ellen o'leary. Is ellen o'leary

4649
02:24:57,422 --> 02:25:01,592
here? Number 75. No. Okay. And

4650
02:25:01,592 --> 02:25:02,527
is there there's no more

4651
02:25:02,527 --> 02:25:04,295
speakers over there. And then

4652
02:25:04,295 --> 02:25:05,697
there's nothing online. So I

4653
02:25:05,697 --> 02:25:07,031
just want to first thank you

4654
02:25:07,031 --> 02:25:08,700
all. I know that was a long

4655
02:25:08,700 --> 02:25:10,802
public comment period, but it

4656
02:25:10,802 --> 02:25:12,770
was very important for us to

4657
02:25:12,770 --> 02:25:13,805
hear people's words. I do want

4658
02:25:13,805 --> 02:25:14,572
to state, for the record, and

4659
02:25:14,572 --> 02:25:17,608
I've told mr. Haynes this, he

4660
02:25:17,608 --> 02:25:20,244
always talks about bipoc drug

4661
02:25:20,244 --> 02:25:22,046
pushers or black drug pushers.

4662
02:25:22,046 --> 02:25:23,815
so just for the record, I had

4663
02:25:23,815 --> 02:25:25,917
asked him, it's not actually

4664
02:25:25,917 --> 02:25:27,785
nice to say all the time, but

4665
02:25:27,785 --> 02:25:29,554
anyways, it's another another

4666
02:25:29,554 --> 02:25:34,025
thing. So just want to thank

4667
02:25:34,025 --> 02:25:37,328
everyone for being here. Okay.

4668
02:25:37,328 --> 02:25:37,929
and for doing public comment.

4669
02:25:37,929 --> 02:25:39,630
the people that came down in

4670
02:25:39,630 --> 02:25:40,264
person, that stood in line, the

4671
02:25:40,264 --> 02:25:41,065
folks that waited on line for

4672
02:25:41,065 --> 02:25:43,301
two hours to speak. It's really

4673
02:25:43,301 --> 02:25:43,801
important that we heard

4674
02:25:43,801 --> 02:25:45,369
everyone, usually public comment

4675
02:25:45,369 --> 02:25:46,337
period. We always have scheduled

4676
02:25:46,337 --> 02:25:48,506
for an hour, but it was really

4677
02:25:48,506 --> 02:25:49,474
important that we listen to

4678
02:25:49,474 --> 02:25:50,475
everyone. So we just want to

4679
02:25:50,475 --> 02:25:51,776
thank you all. I'm going to

4680
02:25:51,776 --> 02:25:52,710
check with my colleagues to see

4681
02:25:52,710 --> 02:25:54,212
if they want to take a recess,

4682
02:25:54,212 --> 02:25:56,380
or if you all wanted to power

4683
02:25:56,380 --> 02:25:58,082
through the recess would be five

4684
02:25:58,082 --> 02:25:59,550
minutes. I'm looking left and

4685
02:25:59,550 --> 02:26:02,320
right, up, down. Are people just

4686
02:26:02,320 --> 02:26:04,188
power through? Are we good?

4687
02:26:04,188 --> 02:26:05,423
okay, so I see people saying

4688
02:26:05,423 --> 02:26:08,192
press forward with their sword.

4689
02:26:08,192 --> 02:26:09,327
okay, let's just jump right

4690
02:26:09,327 --> 02:26:11,329
into the meeting. If there's no

4691
02:26:11,329 --> 02:26:11,996
objections, we're going to jump

4692
02:26:11,996 --> 02:26:14,599
right into the meeting. If

4693
02:26:14,599 --> 02:26:15,166
there's no objection, the

4694
02:26:15,166 --> 02:26:16,501
introduction and referral

4695
02:26:16,501 --> 02:26:18,736
calendar will be adopted.

4696
02:26:18,736 --> 02:26:19,270
hearing no objection, the

4697
02:26:19,270 --> 02:26:20,204
introduction and referral

4698
02:26:20,204 --> 02:26:20,938
calendar is adopted. If there is

4699
02:26:20,938 --> 02:26:23,808
no objection, the agenda will be

4700
02:26:23,808 --> 02:26:25,443
adopted. Hearing no objection,

4701
02:26:25,443 --> 02:26:26,644
the agenda is adopted. We will

4702
02:26:26,644 --> 02:26:29,113
now consider the proposed

4703
02:26:29,113 --> 02:26:30,348
consent calendar. The items on

4704
02:26:30,348 --> 02:26:32,817
the consent calendar include

4705
02:26:32,817 --> 02:26:35,987
minutes of august 4th, 2026.

4706
02:26:35,987 --> 02:26:37,622
council bill 121271 payment of

4707
02:26:37,622 --> 02:26:38,723
the bills, two bills and one

4708
02:26:38,723 --> 02:26:39,624
resolution from parks and city

4709
02:26:39,624 --> 02:26:41,926
light committee. There are five

4710
02:26:41,926 --> 02:26:43,728
appointments from the finance,

4711
02:26:43,728 --> 02:26:44,328
native communities and tribal

4712
02:26:44,328 --> 02:26:45,763
governments committee, and there

4713
02:26:45,763 --> 02:26:47,465
are seven appointments from the

4714
02:26:47,465 --> 02:26:49,300
the transportation waterfront

4715
02:26:49,300 --> 02:26:49,901
and seattle center committee.

4716
02:26:49,901 --> 02:26:51,169
are there any items

4717
02:26:51,169 --> 02:26:53,304
councilmembers would like to

4718
02:26:53,304 --> 02:26:53,905
remove from today's consent

4719
02:26:53,905 --> 02:26:56,374
calendar hearing and seeing

4720
02:26:56,374 --> 02:26:56,974
none. I'm going to move to

4721
02:26:56,974 --> 02:27:00,011
adopt the consent calendar. Is

4722
02:27:00,011 --> 02:27:00,745
there a second? Second. Thank

4723
02:27:00,745 --> 02:27:02,713
you. It's been moved and

4724
02:27:02,713 --> 02:27:03,781
seconded to adopt the consent

4725
02:27:03,781 --> 02:27:04,782
calendar. Will the clerk please

4726
02:27:04,782 --> 02:27:06,517
call the roll on the adoption of

4727
02:27:06,517 --> 02:27:09,420
the consent calendar?

4728
02:27:09,420 --> 02:27:12,957
-- councilmember foster yes.

4729
02:27:12,957 --> 02:27:14,725
-- councilmember foster. Thank

4730
02:27:14,725 --> 02:27:18,196
you. Councilmember juarez.

4731
02:27:18,196 --> 02:27:18,763
councilmember kettle. Aye.

4732
02:27:18,763 --> 02:27:19,230
-- councilmember lin

4733
02:27:19,230 --> 02:27:21,065
-- yes.

4734
02:27:21,065 --> 02:27:21,566
-- councilmember rinck.

4735
02:27:21,566 --> 02:27:25,603
-- yes. Councilmember rivera.

4736
02:27:25,603 --> 02:27:27,572
-- I councilmember saka I

4737
02:27:27,572 --> 02:27:30,107
councilmember strauss I council

4738
02:27:30,107 --> 02:27:30,741
president hollingsworth. Yes,

4739
02:27:30,741 --> 02:27:32,210
and in favor. None. Opposed.

4740
02:27:32,210 --> 02:27:33,978
-- consent. Calendar is adopted.

4741
02:27:33,978 --> 02:27:35,880
will the clerk please affix my

4742
02:27:35,880 --> 02:27:38,382
signature in the minutes on the

4743
02:27:38,382 --> 02:27:39,784
legislation, on the consent

4744
02:27:39,784 --> 02:27:41,018
calendar on my behalf? That was

4745
02:27:41,018 --> 02:27:42,320
a tongue twister. Will the clerk

4746
02:27:42,320 --> 02:27:43,821
please read item number one to

4747
02:27:43,821 --> 02:27:45,590
the record

4748
02:27:45,590 --> 02:27:47,058
-- the report of the housing,

4749
02:27:47,058 --> 02:27:49,794
arts and civil rights committee

4750
02:27:49,794 --> 02:27:51,429
agenda item 1121254 relating to

4751
02:27:51,429 --> 02:27:53,664
rental agreements. Regulation

4752
02:27:53,664 --> 02:27:55,700
requiring disclosure of fees,

4753
02:27:55,700 --> 02:27:56,334
prohibiting eliminating certain

4754
02:27:56,334 --> 02:27:58,135
fees, requiring retention of

4755
02:27:58,135 --> 02:27:59,804
compliance records, expanding

4756
02:27:59,804 --> 02:28:01,572
investigation authority, and

4757
02:28:01,572 --> 02:28:02,173
establishing new enforcement

4758
02:28:02,173 --> 02:28:03,674
mechanisms. The committee

4759
02:28:03,674 --> 02:28:04,342
recommends. The bill passes, as

4760
02:28:04,342 --> 02:28:04,976
amended.

4761
02:28:04,976 --> 02:28:05,843
-- councilmember foster chair of

4762
02:28:05,843 --> 02:28:06,777
the committee. You're recognized

4763
02:28:06,777 --> 02:28:08,446
to give the report.

4764
02:28:08,446 --> 02:28:11,082
-- thank you so I cut my mic.

4765
02:28:11,082 --> 02:28:13,050
thank you so much, council

4766
02:28:13,050 --> 02:28:14,852
president. And first, I want to

4767
02:28:14,852 --> 02:28:16,687
express my appreciation to mayor

4768
02:28:16,687 --> 02:28:19,323
wilson and her team, especially

4769
02:28:19,323 --> 02:28:20,224
karen levitas, who has spent a

4770
02:28:20,224 --> 02:28:21,726
lot of time with our office and

4771
02:28:21,726 --> 02:28:23,561
a lot of time leading on this

4772
02:28:23,561 --> 02:28:25,496
work. I want to also express my

4773
02:28:25,496 --> 02:28:27,999
appreciation to hb harper from

4774
02:28:27,999 --> 02:28:29,200
council central staff and sage

4775
02:28:29,200 --> 02:28:31,068
lawrence from my team for their

4776
02:28:31,068 --> 02:28:33,104
leadership. Thank you to the

4777
02:28:33,104 --> 02:28:33,771
many community members to the

4778
02:28:33,771 --> 02:28:36,140
state house stay healthy

4779
02:28:36,140 --> 02:28:37,475
coalition, to the folks at

4780
02:28:37,475 --> 02:28:39,410
seattle humane washington

4781
02:28:39,410 --> 02:28:41,112
housing alliance, the small and

4782
02:28:41,112 --> 02:28:42,546
large landlords and housing

4783
02:28:42,546 --> 02:28:43,781
providers, all of whom have

4784
02:28:43,781 --> 02:28:45,182
taken the time to come down and

4785
02:28:45,182 --> 02:28:46,484
share their experience and

4786
02:28:46,484 --> 02:28:48,119
testify at city hall. It. It's a

4787
02:28:48,119 --> 02:28:49,553
lot of work. It's a lot of

4788
02:28:49,553 --> 02:28:51,055
energy. And we appreciate each

4789
02:28:51,055 --> 02:28:53,691
of you as chair of the housing,

4790
02:28:53,691 --> 02:28:54,992
arts and civil rights committee,

4791
02:28:54,992 --> 02:28:55,860
I am thrilled to sponsor this

4792
02:28:55,860 --> 02:28:57,995
legislation. And lastly, I want

4793
02:28:57,995 --> 02:28:59,030
to appreciate my colleagues for

4794
02:28:59,030 --> 02:29:00,798
voting this out of committee

4795
02:29:00,798 --> 02:29:04,235
with a 5 to 0 vote. So as we've

4796
02:29:04,235 --> 02:29:05,903
heard today, hidden fees don't

4797
02:29:05,903 --> 02:29:07,104
belong on concert tickets. They

4798
02:29:07,104 --> 02:29:08,606
don't belong on airline

4799
02:29:08,606 --> 02:29:09,173
tickets, and they certainly

4800
02:29:09,173 --> 02:29:09,974
don't belong on the largest

4801
02:29:09,974 --> 02:29:11,909
expense that most seattle

4802
02:29:11,909 --> 02:29:13,778
families have every month. Their

4803
02:29:13,778 --> 02:29:15,446
rent rent is one of the most

4804
02:29:15,446 --> 02:29:17,248
important consumer purchases

4805
02:29:17,248 --> 02:29:19,016
that people make. And if we

4806
02:29:19,016 --> 02:29:20,318
believe in consumer protection

4807
02:29:20,318 --> 02:29:21,485
anywhere, we should believe in

4808
02:29:21,485 --> 02:29:22,420
it here. And it should also be

4809
02:29:22,420 --> 02:29:23,988
one of the most transparent

4810
02:29:23,988 --> 02:29:26,190
decisions for people. And a

4811
02:29:26,190 --> 02:29:27,992
majority renter city where

4812
02:29:27,992 --> 02:29:30,494
housing already stretches

4813
02:29:30,494 --> 02:29:31,062
household budgets. Families

4814
02:29:31,062 --> 02:29:33,197
deserve to know the real cost of

4815
02:29:33,197 --> 02:29:34,065
a rental before they sign a

4816
02:29:34,065 --> 02:29:34,865
lease, before they show up and

4817
02:29:34,865 --> 02:29:36,434
sit down to put their name on a

4818
02:29:36,434 --> 02:29:39,970
paper. Not after. And I myself

4819
02:29:39,970 --> 02:29:41,605
am a homeowner, but I still

4820
02:29:41,605 --> 02:29:42,573
remember the experience of

4821
02:29:42,573 --> 02:29:45,109
finding an apartment, touring a

4822
02:29:45,109 --> 02:29:47,011
building, deciding I wanted to

4823
02:29:47,011 --> 02:29:48,179
live there, sitting down to sign

4824
02:29:48,179 --> 02:29:50,081
a lease, only to realize we were

4825
02:29:50,081 --> 02:29:51,115
quite literally signing up for

4826
02:29:51,115 --> 02:29:52,550
more than we had originally

4827
02:29:52,550 --> 02:29:54,385
bargained for. Because the fees

4828
02:29:54,385 --> 02:29:55,986
and costs that we hadn't

4829
02:29:55,986 --> 02:29:56,520
anticipated that we then

4830
02:29:56,520 --> 02:29:57,521
realized we were going to need

4831
02:29:57,521 --> 02:29:59,623
to pay. That shouldn't be an

4832
02:29:59,623 --> 02:30:01,592
experience that anybody has.

4833
02:30:01,592 --> 02:30:02,560
research from the urban

4834
02:30:02,560 --> 02:30:04,128
institute shows that junk fees

4835
02:30:04,128 --> 02:30:06,364
can increase renters total

4836
02:30:06,364 --> 02:30:07,631
housing costs by 10 to 30%,

4837
02:30:07,631 --> 02:30:08,532
making it harder for people to

4838
02:30:08,532 --> 02:30:10,167
budget and harder for people to

4839
02:30:10,167 --> 02:30:12,770
stay housed. Those added costs

4840
02:30:12,770 --> 02:30:14,405
hit hardest for seniors on fixed

4841
02:30:14,405 --> 02:30:16,340
incomes. For young people

4842
02:30:16,340 --> 02:30:18,009
entering the workforce, working

4843
02:30:18,009 --> 02:30:18,609
families and communities that

4844
02:30:18,609 --> 02:30:20,511
are most likely to rent. As we

4845
02:30:20,511 --> 02:30:22,446
heard earlier today in

4846
02:30:22,446 --> 02:30:23,347
washington, black residents are

4847
02:30:23,347 --> 02:30:24,815
about twice as likely to rent

4848
02:30:24,815 --> 02:30:27,251
than own, meaning these

4849
02:30:27,251 --> 02:30:27,885
practices can disproportionately

4850
02:30:27,885 --> 02:30:28,953
burden households already facing

4851
02:30:28,953 --> 02:30:30,821
barriers to housing stability.

4852
02:30:30,821 --> 02:30:33,824
and I believe and we know, that

4853
02:30:33,824 --> 02:30:34,425
transparency creates a better

4854
02:30:34,425 --> 02:30:35,926
housing market. This legislation

4855
02:30:35,926 --> 02:30:37,495
gives renters the ability to

4856
02:30:37,495 --> 02:30:38,863
compare homes priced on their

4857
02:30:38,863 --> 02:30:42,099
actual cost, not on an

4858
02:30:42,099 --> 02:30:42,666
artificially low advertised

4859
02:30:42,666 --> 02:30:44,468
price, followed by a list of

4860
02:30:44,468 --> 02:30:46,370
surprise charges. It also

4861
02:30:46,370 --> 02:30:46,971
creates a level playing field

4862
02:30:46,971 --> 02:30:48,873
for landlords who are already

4863
02:30:48,873 --> 02:30:50,241
transparent about pricing.

4864
02:30:50,241 --> 02:30:51,308
instead of rewarding those who

4865
02:30:51,308 --> 02:30:52,810
rely on hidden fees to make

4866
02:30:52,810 --> 02:30:54,712
their listings appear more

4867
02:30:54,712 --> 02:30:55,346
affordable than they actually

4868
02:30:55,346 --> 02:30:58,115
are. And by reducing upfront,

4869
02:30:58,115 --> 02:30:59,383
necessary costs, we make it

4870
02:30:59,383 --> 02:31:01,185
easier for renters to find

4871
02:31:01,185 --> 02:31:01,819
housing without paying hundreds

4872
02:31:01,819 --> 02:31:04,021
of dollars just to apply. We. I

4873
02:31:04,021 --> 02:31:05,656
know that consumer protections

4874
02:31:05,656 --> 02:31:06,824
only work if they are

4875
02:31:06,824 --> 02:31:09,860
enforceable, and this bill gives

4876
02:31:09,860 --> 02:31:10,828
sdci the teeth to ensure that

4877
02:31:10,828 --> 02:31:13,764
they are enforcing the law and

4878
02:31:13,764 --> 02:31:14,398
holding people who disregard the

4879
02:31:14,398 --> 02:31:17,768
law accountable. We love a snap.

4880
02:31:17,768 --> 02:31:18,602
and lastly, I'll just share a

4881
02:31:18,602 --> 02:31:20,070
few of the important things that

4882
02:31:20,070 --> 02:31:21,572
this bill does, because so much

4883
02:31:21,572 --> 02:31:22,807
of the testimony today was

4884
02:31:22,807 --> 02:31:23,641
focused on the amendments. We

4885
02:31:23,641 --> 02:31:25,743
are prohibiting charging a fee

4886
02:31:25,743 --> 02:31:26,544
for paying your rent via check

4887
02:31:26,544 --> 02:31:29,447
or ach transfer so that you

4888
02:31:29,447 --> 02:31:31,582
don't have to pay just to pay.

4889
02:31:31,582 --> 02:31:32,583
we are prohibiting mail and

4890
02:31:32,583 --> 02:31:34,485
package fees so renters aren't

4891
02:31:34,485 --> 02:31:36,153
price gouged for receiving

4892
02:31:36,153 --> 02:31:37,988
orders. We are prohibiting

4893
02:31:37,988 --> 02:31:38,622
additional fees for the use of

4894
02:31:38,622 --> 02:31:41,292
in-unit appliances, with

4895
02:31:41,292 --> 02:31:42,827
exceptions for where state law

4896
02:31:42,827 --> 02:31:45,296
allows air conditioning units.

4897
02:31:45,296 --> 02:31:47,698
we are prohibiting fees for pet

4898
02:31:47,698 --> 02:31:49,700
rent because we know that this.

4899
02:31:49,700 --> 02:31:52,002
we are still allowing folks to

4900
02:31:52,002 --> 02:31:52,636
charge for damage deposits and

4901
02:31:52,636 --> 02:31:54,271
to recover costs of any actual

4902
02:31:54,271 --> 02:31:57,007
damage occurred to a unit. We

4903
02:31:57,007 --> 02:31:57,508
are also requiring the

4904
02:31:57,508 --> 02:31:59,043
disclosure of rental fees in

4905
02:31:59,043 --> 02:32:00,644
advertisements and rental

4906
02:32:00,644 --> 02:32:02,346
listings up front on any rental

4907
02:32:02,346 --> 02:32:03,280
agreement that will allow

4908
02:32:03,280 --> 02:32:05,082
renters to be able to compare

4909
02:32:05,082 --> 02:32:07,084
and contrast and make informed

4910
02:32:07,084 --> 02:32:08,552
decisions about where they live.

4911
02:32:08,552 --> 02:32:10,120
and lastly, this bill does allow

4912
02:32:10,120 --> 02:32:11,055
for charging optional fees,

4913
02:32:11,055 --> 02:32:12,923
provided they are not explicitly

4914
02:32:12,923 --> 02:32:15,159
prohibited and are truly opt in

4915
02:32:15,159 --> 02:32:16,093
fees, and they align with the

4916
02:32:16,093 --> 02:32:18,863
rest of the spirit of the

4917
02:32:18,863 --> 02:32:19,497
ordinance. So thank you so much

4918
02:32:19,497 --> 02:32:20,364
to everybody who has supported

4919
02:32:20,364 --> 02:32:21,432
this. I believe that this bill

4920
02:32:21,432 --> 02:32:24,702
is going to result in greater

4921
02:32:24,702 --> 02:32:25,236
transparency and greater

4922
02:32:25,236 --> 02:32:26,070
affordability for seattle

4923
02:32:26,070 --> 02:32:27,238
renters and colleagues. I ask

4924
02:32:27,238 --> 02:32:29,607
for your support.

4925
02:32:29,607 --> 02:32:31,041
-- thank you. Councilmember

4926
02:32:31,041 --> 02:32:31,675
foster. So, colleagues, we have

4927
02:32:31,675 --> 02:32:33,611
about I think we have five

4928
02:32:33,611 --> 02:32:35,179
amendments. So we're going to

4929
02:32:35,179 --> 02:32:37,047
work through those. And then

4930
02:32:37,047 --> 02:32:37,715
we'll have time to speak about

4931
02:32:37,715 --> 02:32:40,484
the whole bill after it's been

4932
02:32:40,484 --> 02:32:41,952
amended. Okay. Or potentially if

4933
02:32:41,952 --> 02:32:46,390
it is amended. So I'm going to

4934
02:32:46,390 --> 02:32:47,992
jump to councilmember lin pardon

4935
02:32:47,992 --> 02:32:53,564
me. We're at ease. One second.

4936
02:32:53,564 --> 02:32:55,866
all right. Okay. So I'll

4937
02:32:55,866 --> 02:32:58,135
recognize. Yep. I'll recognize.

4938
02:32:58,135 --> 02:32:59,236
councilmember. Thank you for

4939
02:32:59,236 --> 02:33:00,704
that reminder. I'll recognize

4940
02:33:00,704 --> 02:33:02,173
councilmember rivera and then

4941
02:33:02,173 --> 02:33:02,840
we'll jump to councilmember lin

4942
02:33:02,840 --> 02:33:03,874
about your amendment.

4943
02:33:03,874 --> 02:33:06,877
councilmember rivera.

4944
02:33:06,877 --> 02:33:07,511
-- thank you, council president

4945
02:33:07,511 --> 02:33:08,078
colleagues, because I own a

4946
02:33:08,078 --> 02:33:09,880
small rental property that I

4947
02:33:09,880 --> 02:33:11,949
share with my family, I'm

4948
02:33:11,949 --> 02:33:13,684
unfortunately precluded from

4949
02:33:13,684 --> 02:33:15,486
voting on today, from voting on

4950
02:33:15,486 --> 02:33:17,588
today's rental fees

4951
02:33:17,588 --> 02:33:19,523
legislation. I'm also precluded

4952
02:33:19,523 --> 02:33:21,659
from even speaking to the

4953
02:33:21,659 --> 02:33:22,459
legislation. I want constituents

4954
02:33:22,459 --> 02:33:24,828
who are watching to know that

4955
02:33:24,828 --> 02:33:27,031
it's not that I do not want to

4956
02:33:27,031 --> 02:33:28,766
represent their interests on

4957
02:33:28,766 --> 02:33:30,568
this matter or their views. I'm

4958
02:33:30,568 --> 02:33:33,203
just unable to. Colleagues, as

4959
02:33:33,203 --> 02:33:34,972
you know, this is an issue that

4960
02:33:34,972 --> 02:33:37,541
continues to come up, especially

4961
02:33:37,541 --> 02:33:40,511
after council went to district

4962
02:33:40,511 --> 02:33:42,613
representation, and it is

4963
02:33:42,613 --> 02:33:43,847
different from the position that

4964
02:33:43,847 --> 02:33:45,616
has been taken by the state,

4965
02:33:45,616 --> 02:33:47,518
where the state legislature is

4966
02:33:47,518 --> 02:33:48,052
required to disclose any

4967
02:33:48,052 --> 02:33:49,420
conflicts of interest, but

4968
02:33:49,420 --> 02:33:51,689
they're not actually prohibited

4969
02:33:51,689 --> 02:33:53,591
from voting. While I understand

4970
02:33:53,591 --> 02:33:55,025
why we cannot vote or why I

4971
02:33:55,025 --> 02:33:56,627
cannot vote, and I will always

4972
02:33:56,627 --> 02:33:59,863
abide by ethics rules, it is a

4973
02:33:59,863 --> 02:34:01,532
point of concern because I, like

4974
02:34:01,532 --> 02:34:04,368
you, have received feedback from

4975
02:34:04,368 --> 02:34:05,869
residents on this legislation,

4976
02:34:05,869 --> 02:34:07,705
and I do not want constituents

4977
02:34:07,705 --> 02:34:10,874
to think that I did not want to

4978
02:34:10,874 --> 02:34:12,309
vote on this legislation. Thank

4979
02:34:12,309 --> 02:34:13,277
you. Council president.

4980
02:34:13,277 --> 02:34:15,145
-- awesome. Thank you,

4981
02:34:15,145 --> 02:34:17,348
councilmember rivera, for that.

4982
02:34:17,348 --> 02:34:19,116
councilmember lin, you are

4983
02:34:19,116 --> 02:34:19,617
recognized to move your

4984
02:34:19,617 --> 02:34:20,651
amendment.

4985
02:34:20,651 --> 02:34:22,486
-- thank you. I'd like to move

4986
02:34:22,486 --> 02:34:25,289
amendment a version one to

4987
02:34:25,289 --> 02:34:28,125
council bill one, 21254.

4988
02:34:28,125 --> 02:34:28,792
-- second.

4989
02:34:28,792 --> 02:34:29,493
-- it's been moved and second

4990
02:34:29,493 --> 02:34:30,227
to amend council bill as

4991
02:34:30,227 --> 02:34:31,428
presented on amendment a

4992
02:34:31,428 --> 02:34:32,062
councilmember lin a sponsor of

4993
02:34:32,062 --> 02:34:33,564
the amendment. You are

4994
02:34:33,564 --> 02:34:34,999
recognized in order to address

4995
02:34:34,999 --> 02:34:35,165
it.

4996
02:34:35,165 --> 02:34:36,100
-- thank you so much. And first,

4997
02:34:36,100 --> 02:34:40,304
thank you, councilmember foster,

4998
02:34:40,304 --> 02:34:41,872
for bringing this legislation

4999
02:34:41,872 --> 02:34:43,707
forward. Thanks to everyone that

5000
02:34:43,707 --> 02:34:48,879
came to speak today. This

5001
02:34:48,879 --> 02:34:50,014
amendment is. I brought an

5002
02:34:50,014 --> 02:34:52,182
amendment to the original bill.

5003
02:34:52,182 --> 02:34:54,018
and in terms of enforcement, you

5004
02:34:54,018 --> 02:34:56,453
know, there's two primary ways

5005
02:34:56,453 --> 02:35:00,057
that this bill will be enforced.

5006
02:35:00,057 --> 02:35:01,425
there's sdci enforcement, and

5007
02:35:01,425 --> 02:35:03,527
then there's the private right

5008
02:35:03,527 --> 02:35:05,429
of action. And, you know, and

5009
02:35:05,429 --> 02:35:08,565
the private right of action

5010
02:35:08,565 --> 02:35:14,371
while it is great that we have

5011
02:35:14,371 --> 02:35:14,972
attorney's fees and other

5012
02:35:14,972 --> 02:35:17,675
penalties, it still requires

5013
02:35:17,675 --> 02:35:19,109
tenants to go to court, which

5014
02:35:19,109 --> 02:35:21,578
could be a lengthy process or,

5015
02:35:21,578 --> 02:35:23,213
you know, often requires tenants

5016
02:35:23,213 --> 02:35:26,150
to, to go seek legal

5017
02:35:26,150 --> 02:35:30,988
representation. And so the main

5018
02:35:30,988 --> 02:35:33,324
thrust of the original amendment

5019
02:35:33,324 --> 02:35:35,325
was to empower tenants to, to,

5020
02:35:35,325 --> 02:35:36,660
to make a demand to the, to

5021
02:35:36,660 --> 02:35:39,863
their landlord, to, if they were

5022
02:35:39,863 --> 02:35:42,833
charged, these fees that were

5023
02:35:42,833 --> 02:35:46,637
prohibited and to request

5024
02:35:46,637 --> 02:35:48,072
immediate refunds plus double

5025
02:35:48,072 --> 02:35:51,141
damages, and to incentivize

5026
02:35:51,141 --> 02:35:54,311
landlords to to cure any

5027
02:35:54,311 --> 02:35:57,881
violations. And if they did so

5028
02:35:57,881 --> 02:35:58,849
within 30 days, then they would

5029
02:35:58,849 --> 02:36:00,884
not be subject to the penalties

5030
02:36:00,884 --> 02:36:03,921
and attorney's fees. And so the

5031
02:36:03,921 --> 02:36:06,123
the idea was that it would

5032
02:36:06,123 --> 02:36:08,692
empower tenants and incentivize

5033
02:36:08,692 --> 02:36:09,760
landlords to quickly correct any

5034
02:36:09,760 --> 02:36:11,361
issues so that tenants wouldn't

5035
02:36:11,361 --> 02:36:13,230
have to go to court, landlords

5036
02:36:13,230 --> 02:36:15,532
wouldn't have to pay attorneys

5037
02:36:15,532 --> 02:36:18,202
fees, and tenants would be

5038
02:36:18,202 --> 02:36:21,438
reimbursed quickly after

5039
02:36:21,438 --> 02:36:25,275
committee meeting, we spoke with

5040
02:36:25,275 --> 02:36:28,946
some tenant advocates and

5041
02:36:28,946 --> 02:36:30,581
received feedback that, you

5042
02:36:30,581 --> 02:36:31,482
know, if that fee was charged to

5043
02:36:31,482 --> 02:36:32,449
one tenant, it was probably

5044
02:36:32,449 --> 02:36:33,717
charged to all the other

5045
02:36:33,717 --> 02:36:36,019
tenants. And so when a notice

5046
02:36:36,019 --> 02:36:37,855
was given to landlord, it should

5047
02:36:37,855 --> 02:36:39,623
be deemed constructive notice

5048
02:36:39,623 --> 02:36:40,724
for all the tenants in that

5049
02:36:40,724 --> 02:36:43,527
building. And with the idea that

5050
02:36:43,527 --> 02:36:44,561
if the landlords put on notice,

5051
02:36:44,561 --> 02:36:46,263
if they were going to take

5052
02:36:46,263 --> 02:36:49,099
advantage of this sort of

5053
02:36:49,099 --> 02:36:50,300
alternative dispute process,

5054
02:36:50,300 --> 02:36:51,735
they should be refunding those

5055
02:36:51,735 --> 02:36:53,537
fees to to all the tenants in

5056
02:36:53,537 --> 02:36:55,939
that building, and also be

5057
02:36:55,939 --> 02:36:58,175
giving notice to sdci so sdci

5058
02:36:58,175 --> 02:37:01,078
can keep track of any violations

5059
02:37:01,078 --> 02:37:05,816
in any cures. So that's the

5060
02:37:05,816 --> 02:37:08,552
amendment. We also included a

5061
02:37:08,552 --> 02:37:10,120
provision that if the landlord

5062
02:37:10,120 --> 02:37:10,954
provided charge that same fee

5063
02:37:10,954 --> 02:37:14,124
within 24 months, they wouldn't

5064
02:37:14,124 --> 02:37:14,725
be able to take advantage of

5065
02:37:14,725 --> 02:37:16,126
this additional sort of adr

5066
02:37:16,126 --> 02:37:18,095
process. Alternative dispute

5067
02:37:18,095 --> 02:37:20,230
process. So that's the

5068
02:37:20,230 --> 02:37:21,064
amendment. And if I would love

5069
02:37:21,064 --> 02:37:22,766
if you have any questions or

5070
02:37:22,766 --> 02:37:23,801
concerns, otherwise, I would

5071
02:37:23,801 --> 02:37:25,869
love your support. Thank you.

5072
02:37:25,869 --> 02:37:26,537
-- thank you. Councilmember lin

5073
02:37:26,537 --> 02:37:28,505
are there any comments regarding

5074
02:37:28,505 --> 02:37:33,710
amendment a? Seeing none, do you

5075
02:37:33,710 --> 02:37:35,579
have any closing remarks?

5076
02:37:35,579 --> 02:37:37,581
councilmember lin no closing

5077
02:37:37,581 --> 02:37:39,883
testimony. Okay will the clerk

5078
02:37:39,883 --> 02:37:41,118
please call the roll on the

5079
02:37:41,118 --> 02:37:43,887
adoption of amendment a.

5080
02:37:43,887 --> 02:37:48,525
-- councilmember foster yes.

5081
02:37:48,525 --> 02:37:49,026
-- councilmember juarez

5082
02:37:49,026 --> 02:37:50,527
councilmember kettle.

5083
02:37:50,527 --> 02:37:51,061
-- aye.

5084
02:37:51,061 --> 02:37:52,529
-- councilmember lin.

5085
02:37:52,529 --> 02:37:52,763
-- yes.

5086
02:37:52,763 --> 02:37:54,631
-- councilmember rinck.

5087
02:37:54,631 --> 02:37:54,865
-- yes.

5088
02:37:54,865 --> 02:37:58,101
-- councilmember rivera.

5089
02:37:58,101 --> 02:38:05,242
-- present. Present.

5090
02:38:05,242 --> 02:38:09,713
-- councilmember saka. Aye.

5091
02:38:09,713 --> 02:38:10,347
councilmember strauss. Council

5092
02:38:10,347 --> 02:38:10,881
president hollingsworth.

5093
02:38:10,881 --> 02:38:12,049
-- yes

5094
02:38:12,049 --> 02:38:13,717
-- eight in favor. None opposed

5095
02:38:13,717 --> 02:38:15,486
one abstention.

5096
02:38:15,486 --> 02:38:17,421
-- motion carries. Amendment a

5097
02:38:17,421 --> 02:38:18,055
is adopted. Councilmember kettle

5098
02:38:18,055 --> 02:38:19,556
you are recognized to move your

5099
02:38:19,556 --> 02:38:20,691
amendment b.

5100
02:38:20,691 --> 02:38:23,560
-- thank you, council president.

5101
02:38:23,560 --> 02:38:24,995
I move amendment b version one

5102
02:38:24,995 --> 02:38:30,601
to council bill 121254.

5103
02:38:30,601 --> 02:38:31,168
-- second.

5104
02:38:31,168 --> 02:38:32,569
-- it's been moved and seconded

5105
02:38:32,569 --> 02:38:34,004
to amend the bill as presented

5106
02:38:34,004 --> 02:38:35,239
on amendment b councilmember

5107
02:38:35,239 --> 02:38:37,040
kettle you recognize in order to

5108
02:38:37,040 --> 02:38:37,341
address it.

5109
02:38:37,341 --> 02:38:39,142
-- thank you. Council president,

5110
02:38:39,142 --> 02:38:40,844
and thank you, councilmember

5111
02:38:40,844 --> 02:38:46,850
foster and my colleagues. This

5112
02:38:46,850 --> 02:38:48,452
amendment is being done for a

5113
02:38:48,452 --> 02:38:50,821
few things. One is not long ago,

5114
02:38:50,821 --> 02:38:52,389
when we were doing the education

5115
02:38:52,389 --> 02:38:54,958
levy implementation, my

5116
02:38:54,958 --> 02:38:57,361
colleague was saying it was

5117
02:38:57,361 --> 02:38:58,595
important how you talk about

5118
02:38:58,595 --> 02:39:00,464
things, and I agreed with her as

5119
02:39:00,464 --> 02:39:04,067
it related to that bill and in

5120
02:39:04,067 --> 02:39:07,538
all bills, actually. And then

5121
02:39:07,538 --> 02:39:09,206
later with sepa and eyes, we

5122
02:39:09,206 --> 02:39:11,675
talked about weaponization. And

5123
02:39:11,675 --> 02:39:13,410
I spoke to that issue as well.

5124
02:39:13,410 --> 02:39:15,546
and I talked about the language

5125
02:39:15,546 --> 02:39:20,117
that we use, and it was

5126
02:39:20,117 --> 02:39:20,717
interesting to see online in

5127
02:39:20,717 --> 02:39:22,119
other places how I was being

5128
02:39:22,119 --> 02:39:26,557
mocked for that. But the idea is

5129
02:39:26,557 --> 02:39:28,158
to, to raise the discourse, to

5130
02:39:28,158 --> 02:39:29,760
have an engagement on the topics

5131
02:39:29,760 --> 02:39:36,033
that we're facing. And the term

5132
02:39:36,033 --> 02:39:42,272
junk fee is not a formal legal

5133
02:39:42,272 --> 02:39:44,608
fee industry standard is a

5134
02:39:44,608 --> 02:39:47,244
colloquial phrase. It is not

5135
02:39:47,244 --> 02:39:48,445
legal. And this is a legal

5136
02:39:48,445 --> 02:39:53,917
document and we should be

5137
02:39:53,917 --> 02:39:56,153
looking to place ourselves in a

5138
02:39:56,153 --> 02:39:57,254
position where we are engaging

5139
02:39:57,254 --> 02:40:00,223
on the topics. And I recognize

5140
02:40:00,223 --> 02:40:02,326
from all the different comments,

5141
02:40:02,326 --> 02:40:03,627
and I understand 100%. At the

5142
02:40:03,627 --> 02:40:05,862
same time, I do recognize, too,

5143
02:40:05,862 --> 02:40:06,897
that for those that are

5144
02:40:06,897 --> 02:40:07,931
advocating on the other side who

5145
02:40:07,931 --> 02:40:10,667
are not often heard here in

5146
02:40:10,667 --> 02:40:14,404
chambers, that if you're a

5147
02:40:14,404 --> 02:40:15,105
landlord and you're dealing with

5148
02:40:15,105 --> 02:40:16,506
issues with pets, that if you're

5149
02:40:16,506 --> 02:40:19,576
looking for this, it's the word

5150
02:40:19,576 --> 02:40:21,678
junk is pejorative. And it's

5151
02:40:21,678 --> 02:40:23,113
like they're doing it for some

5152
02:40:23,113 --> 02:40:25,215
reason other than what may be.

5153
02:40:25,215 --> 02:40:25,782
and that's not the case.

5154
02:40:25,782 --> 02:40:28,352
sometimes it is, but not always.

5155
02:40:28,352 --> 02:40:29,853
and I just think that we as a

5156
02:40:29,853 --> 02:40:32,756
body should be looking to use

5157
02:40:32,756 --> 02:40:34,191
terms that are reflective of our

5158
02:40:34,191 --> 02:40:36,593
position and what we're doing

5159
02:40:36,593 --> 02:40:38,562
here with legal documents, legal

5160
02:40:38,562 --> 02:40:40,297
formality that we're doing, that

5161
02:40:40,297 --> 02:40:41,732
we don't use a colloquial term

5162
02:40:41,732 --> 02:40:42,866
like junk feeds. And then, you

5163
02:40:42,866 --> 02:40:44,167
know, and building on the idea

5164
02:40:44,167 --> 02:40:47,304
of weaponization from the sepa

5165
02:40:47,304 --> 02:40:49,940
and I's bill, or the idea that

5166
02:40:49,940 --> 02:40:51,008
we have to be it's important how

5167
02:40:51,008 --> 02:40:52,643
you talk about things. As we

5168
02:40:52,643 --> 02:40:54,678
were going through the education

5169
02:40:54,678 --> 02:40:57,814
levy implementation that we

5170
02:40:57,814 --> 02:40:59,649
raise the, you know, the, the

5171
02:40:59,649 --> 02:41:01,018
discourse here and colleagues,

5172
02:41:01,018 --> 02:41:03,587
this is the reason for this

5173
02:41:03,587 --> 02:41:07,224
amendment solely. And I think

5174
02:41:07,224 --> 02:41:08,692
the word junk is not needed. And

5175
02:41:08,692 --> 02:41:11,128
it's also a word that, you

5176
02:41:11,128 --> 02:41:13,330
know, is not at that level that

5177
02:41:13,330 --> 02:41:14,731
we should be doing here in terms

5178
02:41:14,731 --> 02:41:16,533
of this legal proceeding that

5179
02:41:16,533 --> 02:41:17,434
we're that we're embarked on.

5180
02:41:17,434 --> 02:41:19,302
so thank you. And I ask for your

5181
02:41:19,302 --> 02:41:19,670
support.

5182
02:41:19,670 --> 02:41:20,837
-- thank you. Councilmember

5183
02:41:20,837 --> 02:41:22,739
kettle are there comments on

5184
02:41:22,739 --> 02:41:24,574
amendment b as presented? Any

5185
02:41:24,574 --> 02:41:29,579
comments? Colleagues seeing

5186
02:41:29,579 --> 02:41:30,213
none. Okay. Councilmember kettle

5187
02:41:30,213 --> 02:41:32,449
do you have any closing remarks?

5188
02:41:32,449 --> 02:41:34,484
-- none other than to ask for

5189
02:41:34,484 --> 02:41:36,653
the support. And again,

5190
02:41:36,653 --> 02:41:37,220
understanding where this is

5191
02:41:37,220 --> 02:41:39,890
coming from and how we can move

5192
02:41:39,890 --> 02:41:40,157
forward.

5193
02:41:40,157 --> 02:41:41,324
-- thank you. Thank you,

5194
02:41:41,324 --> 02:41:42,426
councilmember kettle, will the

5195
02:41:42,426 --> 02:41:43,994
clerk please call the roll on

5196
02:41:43,994 --> 02:41:48,965
adoption of amendment b?

5197
02:41:48,965 --> 02:41:49,533
-- councilmember foster no.

5198
02:41:49,533 --> 02:41:51,368
-- councilmember juarez.

5199
02:41:51,368 --> 02:41:51,601
-- no.

5200
02:41:51,601 --> 02:41:53,470
-- councilmember kettle.

5201
02:41:53,470 --> 02:41:54,137
-- aye.

5202
02:41:54,137 --> 02:41:56,306
-- councilmember lin.

5203
02:41:56,306 --> 02:41:56,540
-- yes.

5204
02:41:56,540 --> 02:42:00,877
-- councilmember rinck.

5205
02:42:00,877 --> 02:42:01,111
-- no.

5206
02:42:01,111 --> 02:42:01,645
-- councilmember rivera.

5207
02:42:01,645 --> 02:42:03,013
-- present

5208
02:42:03,013 --> 02:42:08,819
-- councilmember saka. Aye.

5209
02:42:08,819 --> 02:42:09,319
councilmember strauss.

5210
02:42:09,319 --> 02:42:09,553
-- no.

5211
02:42:09,553 --> 02:42:11,021
-- council president.

5212
02:42:11,021 --> 02:42:11,388
hollingsworth.

5213
02:42:11,388 --> 02:42:11,621
-- no.

5214
02:42:11,621 --> 02:42:13,790
-- that is three in favor, five

5215
02:42:13,790 --> 02:42:15,759
opposed and one disqualified.

5216
02:42:15,759 --> 02:42:17,661
-- so the motion fails and

5217
02:42:17,661 --> 02:42:22,432
amendment b is not adopted.

5218
02:42:22,432 --> 02:42:23,066
councilmember kettle you are you

5219
02:42:23,066 --> 02:42:26,203
are recognized. So move

5220
02:42:26,203 --> 02:42:34,311
amendment c.

5221
02:42:34,544 --> 02:42:41,084
-- I'm just taking a moment

5222
02:42:41,084 --> 02:42:41,618
council president I move

5223
02:42:41,618 --> 02:42:43,186
amendment c version one to

5224
02:42:43,186 --> 02:42:45,388
council bill 12125 for second.

5225
02:42:45,388 --> 02:42:47,457
-- it's been moved. And second,

5226
02:42:47,457 --> 02:42:49,326
to amend the bill as presented

5227
02:42:49,326 --> 02:42:49,926
on amendment c councilmember

5228
02:42:49,926 --> 02:42:51,294
kettle you're recognized in

5229
02:42:51,294 --> 02:42:53,964
order to address it.

5230
02:42:53,964 --> 02:42:54,631
-- councilmember I'm requesting

5231
02:42:54,631 --> 02:42:57,367
that the rules be suspended to

5232
02:42:57,367 --> 02:43:03,907
consider an oral amendment.

5233
02:43:03,907 --> 02:43:05,909
-- rules are suspended for an

5234
02:43:05,909 --> 02:43:07,077
oral amendment. Oh, excuse me, I

5235
02:43:07,077 --> 02:43:10,280
need a second. Is there a

5236
02:43:10,280 --> 02:43:10,514
second?

5237
02:43:10,514 --> 02:43:11,915
-- second?

5238
02:43:11,915 --> 02:43:12,549
-- it's been moved in second

5239
02:43:12,549 --> 02:43:14,351
for the rules to be suspended

5240
02:43:14,351 --> 02:43:18,855
for an oral amendment or oral

5241
02:43:18,855 --> 02:43:19,322
amendment. Excuse me.

5242
02:43:19,322 --> 02:43:20,824
councilmember kettle, you are

5243
02:43:20,824 --> 02:43:21,124
recognized.

5244
02:43:21,124 --> 02:43:25,695
-- council president. I move to

5245
02:43:25,695 --> 02:43:26,329
amend amendment c version one by

5246
02:43:26,329 --> 02:43:26,596
deleting.

5247
02:43:26,596 --> 02:43:27,164
-- I apologize, I got to go

5248
02:43:27,164 --> 02:43:28,265
back. My bad. I have to take it

5249
02:43:28,265 --> 02:43:29,766
to a vote. Okay, so will the

5250
02:43:29,766 --> 02:43:32,035
clerk please call the roll on

5251
02:43:32,035 --> 02:43:33,904
the rules being suspended for an

5252
02:43:33,904 --> 02:43:37,440
oral amendment?

5253
02:43:37,440 --> 02:43:39,276
-- councilmember foster yes.

5254
02:43:39,276 --> 02:43:41,411
-- councilmember juarez.

5255
02:43:41,411 --> 02:43:41,645
-- yes.

5256
02:43:41,645 --> 02:43:42,512
-- councilmember kettle.

5257
02:43:42,512 --> 02:43:44,648
-- aye

5258
02:43:44,648 --> 02:43:45,115
-- councilmember lin.

5259
02:43:45,115 --> 02:43:47,384
-- yes.

5260
02:43:47,384 --> 02:43:47,918
-- councilmember. Rinck.

5261
02:43:47,918 --> 02:43:49,719
-- yes.

5262
02:43:49,719 --> 02:43:50,253
-- councilmember rivera.

5263
02:43:50,253 --> 02:43:51,888
-- present.

5264
02:43:51,888 --> 02:43:55,492
-- councilmember saka. Aye.

5265
02:43:55,492 --> 02:43:56,126
councilmember strauss. Council

5266
02:43:56,126 --> 02:43:58,495
president. Hollingsworth.

5267
02:43:58,495 --> 02:43:58,728
-- yes.

5268
02:43:58,728 --> 02:44:02,265
-- eight in favor none opposed

5269
02:44:02,265 --> 02:44:02,666
one disqualified.

5270
02:44:02,666 --> 02:44:03,333
-- all right. Rules has been

5271
02:44:03,333 --> 02:44:03,967
suspended. Councilmember kettle

5272
02:44:03,967 --> 02:44:06,603
you are recognized again.

5273
02:44:06,603 --> 02:44:07,771
-- council president, I move to

5274
02:44:07,771 --> 02:44:09,806
amend amendment c by deleting a

5275
02:44:09,806 --> 02:44:15,879
cat or those three words from

5276
02:44:15,879 --> 02:44:16,246
section 11. A.

5277
02:44:16,246 --> 02:44:17,614
-- so I'm going to pause here

5278
02:44:17,614 --> 02:44:20,183
and be at ease, because I

5279
02:44:20,183 --> 02:44:21,017
believe that we would need to

5280
02:44:21,017 --> 02:44:22,485
put this up. Do people need to

5281
02:44:22,485 --> 02:44:24,554
have this up? No.

5282
02:44:24,554 --> 02:44:27,591
-- it's up to the chair

5283
02:44:27,591 --> 02:44:28,892
-- do people do people want this

5284
02:44:28,892 --> 02:44:29,759
amendment up? Okay. Fair enough.

5285
02:44:29,759 --> 02:44:34,364
all right. So amendment, you all

5286
02:44:34,364 --> 02:44:34,998
have the amendment in front of

5287
02:44:34,998 --> 02:44:36,666
you. I just wanted to do a

5288
02:44:36,666 --> 02:44:37,400
transparency for the public. But

5289
02:44:37,400 --> 02:44:41,738
that's fine. So go ahead and

5290
02:44:41,738 --> 02:44:43,473
repeat that again. Councilmember

5291
02:44:43,473 --> 02:44:48,545
kettle. My apologies

5292
02:44:48,545 --> 02:44:50,513
-- I move to amend amendment c

5293
02:44:50,513 --> 02:44:53,516
by deleting a cat or those three

5294
02:44:53,516 --> 02:44:56,953
words from section 11, a.

5295
02:44:56,953 --> 02:44:59,522
-- is there a second? Thank you.

5296
02:44:59,522 --> 02:45:02,125
is there a second? I will second

5297
02:45:02,125 --> 02:45:04,761
it. It's been moved and

5298
02:45:04,761 --> 02:45:07,397
seconded for us to remove due to

5299
02:45:07,397 --> 02:45:10,300
oral amendment for us to remove

5300
02:45:10,300 --> 02:45:15,505
from line a in the in the

5301
02:45:15,505 --> 02:45:18,008
amendment to remove a cat or so

5302
02:45:18,008 --> 02:45:22,545
a cat or on amendment c, it's

5303
02:45:22,545 --> 02:45:24,581
been moved in second

5304
02:45:24,581 --> 02:45:25,181
councilmember kettle you are

5305
02:45:25,181 --> 02:45:27,717
recognized to address it.

5306
02:45:27,717 --> 02:45:29,719
-- thank you. Council president.

5307
02:45:29,719 --> 02:45:33,323
I just wanted to say I've been

5308
02:45:33,323 --> 02:45:34,758
a renter. I was a renter until

5309
02:45:34,758 --> 02:45:38,094
the age of 47. I was also a

5310
02:45:38,094 --> 02:45:39,029
landlord for a decade and a

5311
02:45:39,029 --> 02:45:41,331
half, from about the age of 35

5312
02:45:41,331 --> 02:45:44,801
to 50. And in that time gained a

5313
02:45:44,801 --> 02:45:46,703
lot of experience working a lot

5314
02:45:46,703 --> 02:45:49,806
of issues as it relates to

5315
02:45:49,806 --> 02:45:51,941
landlord tenant that we're

5316
02:45:51,941 --> 02:45:52,942
dealing with here today, and

5317
02:45:52,942 --> 02:45:54,811
should be also dealing with in

5318
02:45:54,811 --> 02:45:58,882
another areas as well. And I

5319
02:45:58,882 --> 02:46:01,184
recognize the points that were

5320
02:46:01,184 --> 02:46:04,387
made oftentimes here in terms of

5321
02:46:04,387 --> 02:46:06,556
general with pets. I should

5322
02:46:06,556 --> 02:46:07,557
note, I have two dogs, two

5323
02:46:07,557 --> 02:46:11,928
little cairn terriers. And I

5324
02:46:11,928 --> 02:46:12,429
also understand from my

5325
02:46:12,429 --> 02:46:13,963
experience and also the advocacy

5326
02:46:13,963 --> 02:46:16,866
that I've received, again, not

5327
02:46:16,866 --> 02:46:18,168
here in council, but from people

5328
02:46:18,168 --> 02:46:20,136
like betsy hudson, who gave a

5329
02:46:20,136 --> 02:46:22,939
really detailed experience in

5330
02:46:22,939 --> 02:46:27,377
terms of working the issue of

5331
02:46:27,377 --> 02:46:28,945
pets. I understand the pet

5332
02:46:28,945 --> 02:46:29,946
deposit argument and it makes

5333
02:46:29,946 --> 02:46:31,748
sense, but that doesn't capture

5334
02:46:31,748 --> 02:46:33,149
one challenge that we have with

5335
02:46:33,149 --> 02:46:35,585
this bill. We have such a wide

5336
02:46:35,585 --> 02:46:38,655
range of renters and rental

5337
02:46:38,655 --> 02:46:39,789
agreements. And, you know, in

5338
02:46:39,789 --> 02:46:41,391
terms of the types of whether

5339
02:46:41,391 --> 02:46:43,059
it's a, you know, massive

5340
02:46:43,059 --> 02:46:44,094
building, whether it's a small,

5341
02:46:44,094 --> 02:46:45,228
single family home, could be

5342
02:46:45,228 --> 02:46:49,566
many types. So I do understand

5343
02:46:49,566 --> 02:46:52,669
the deposit argument, but I also

5344
02:46:52,669 --> 02:46:54,871
know that damage not seen happen

5345
02:46:54,871 --> 02:46:56,139
or attributable to any one

5346
02:46:56,139 --> 02:46:57,540
specific dog. It has an impact,

5347
02:46:57,540 --> 02:46:58,775
has an impact on the owners, and

5348
02:46:58,775 --> 02:47:02,078
it is a cost. And one should

5349
02:47:02,078 --> 02:47:03,646
know this is america, that real

5350
02:47:03,646 --> 02:47:07,083
estate, this is a business and

5351
02:47:07,083 --> 02:47:08,585
these costs will be passed

5352
02:47:08,585 --> 02:47:10,720
through. And I just think that

5353
02:47:10,720 --> 02:47:14,691
in this situation, in the idea

5354
02:47:14,691 --> 02:47:18,561
that this is a common sense fix,

5355
02:47:18,561 --> 02:47:19,662
very small amount, and that

5356
02:47:19,662 --> 02:47:21,364
otherwise this will be borne by

5357
02:47:21,364 --> 02:47:22,565
all tenants. And that in itself

5358
02:47:22,565 --> 02:47:24,200
creates its own affordability

5359
02:47:24,200 --> 02:47:27,203
challenges. And so I present

5360
02:47:27,203 --> 02:47:30,206
this amendment in terms of being

5361
02:47:30,206 --> 02:47:32,809
simple and clean, but also

5362
02:47:32,809 --> 02:47:33,443
highlighting the challenges that

5363
02:47:33,443 --> 02:47:34,811
are seen out there. And those

5364
02:47:34,811 --> 02:47:37,480
costs will be passed on. I've

5365
02:47:37,480 --> 02:47:40,216
talked to so many different

5366
02:47:40,216 --> 02:47:41,818
types of landlords or developers

5367
02:47:41,818 --> 02:47:43,987
that work these kinds of even

5368
02:47:43,987 --> 02:47:45,121
affordable housing. And they,

5369
02:47:45,121 --> 02:47:46,389
they, they talk about the

5370
02:47:46,389 --> 02:47:49,159
challenges that they face. And

5371
02:47:49,159 --> 02:47:49,993
so with that, that's the

5372
02:47:49,993 --> 02:47:50,994
reasoning behind amendment c,

5373
02:47:50,994 --> 02:47:52,929
and I ask for your support.

5374
02:47:52,929 --> 02:47:54,964
-- thank you. Councilmember

5375
02:47:54,964 --> 02:47:56,332
kettle. Councilmember strauss.

5376
02:47:56,332 --> 02:47:58,368
-- thank you, council president,

5377
02:47:58,368 --> 02:47:59,002
I'm just checking that we are

5378
02:47:59,002 --> 02:48:03,006
first going to vote on amending

5379
02:48:03,006 --> 02:48:05,175
the amendment, and then we will

5380
02:48:05,175 --> 02:48:06,876
vote on the amendment. The

5381
02:48:06,876 --> 02:48:08,511
amendment as amended. Is that

5382
02:48:08,511 --> 02:48:08,778
correct?

5383
02:48:08,778 --> 02:48:10,313
-- that is correct. So right now

5384
02:48:10,313 --> 02:48:12,916
we are voting on the amendment

5385
02:48:12,916 --> 02:48:14,417
to the amendment, which is the

5386
02:48:14,417 --> 02:48:16,719
oral amendment that right now it

5387
02:48:16,719 --> 02:48:20,790
is the fee may only be obsessed

5388
02:48:20,790 --> 02:48:22,325
or assessed for keeping a cat or

5389
02:48:22,325 --> 02:48:24,894
dog. Councilmember kettle

5390
02:48:24,894 --> 02:48:27,897
amendment is to remove a cat or.

5391
02:48:27,897 --> 02:48:29,999
so right now we will be voting

5392
02:48:29,999 --> 02:48:32,102
on to remove a cat or so the new

5393
02:48:32,102 --> 02:48:35,672
amendment will say. The fee may

5394
02:48:35,672 --> 02:48:37,373
be assessed for keeping a dog.

5395
02:48:37,373 --> 02:48:39,609
-- thank you. I really

5396
02:48:39,609 --> 02:48:42,045
appreciate this change. I think

5397
02:48:42,045 --> 02:48:43,780
that it makes good sense and

5398
02:48:43,780 --> 02:48:48,585
I'll use this moment to also

5399
02:48:48,585 --> 02:48:49,219
recognize the fact that tomorrow

5400
02:48:49,219 --> 02:48:50,720
is kitty hall here at seattle

5401
02:48:50,720 --> 02:48:53,456
city hall, where you can adopt a

5402
02:48:53,456 --> 02:48:55,725
cat from our fas animal shelter,

5403
02:48:55,725 --> 02:48:58,328
as well as if you don't want to

5404
02:48:58,328 --> 02:48:59,496
adopt here a cat. We. We also

5405
02:48:59,496 --> 02:49:01,364
have dogs. They are at the

5406
02:49:01,364 --> 02:49:03,733
animal shelter. Adoptions are

5407
02:49:03,733 --> 02:49:04,534
available all week long. Thank

5408
02:49:04,534 --> 02:49:05,835
you.

5409
02:49:05,835 --> 02:49:07,604
-- thank you. Council.

5410
02:49:07,604 --> 02:49:10,707
councilmember strauss. So just

5411
02:49:10,707 --> 02:49:12,842
to clarify, team council, we are

5412
02:49:12,842 --> 02:49:15,545
voting on the amendment to the

5413
02:49:15,545 --> 02:49:17,280
amendment. So we are voting on

5414
02:49:17,280 --> 02:49:19,649
to remove a cat or councilmember

5415
02:49:19,649 --> 02:49:19,883
foster.

5416
02:49:19,883 --> 02:49:21,084
-- thank you, council president.

5417
02:49:21,084 --> 02:49:23,052
I'm just I think are you asking

5418
02:49:23,052 --> 02:49:25,488
for our comments on the amended

5419
02:49:25,488 --> 02:49:26,322
amendment now, or are you asking

5420
02:49:26,322 --> 02:49:27,590
for us to hold those.

5421
02:49:27,590 --> 02:49:29,559
-- on the comments on the

5422
02:49:29,559 --> 02:49:31,327
amendment to the amendment?

5423
02:49:31,327 --> 02:49:32,795
-- okay. Thank you. I will I

5424
02:49:32,795 --> 02:49:36,332
will be brief in my comments on

5425
02:49:36,332 --> 02:49:37,534
the amended amendment. I

5426
02:49:37,534 --> 02:49:38,034
councilmember kettle I

5427
02:49:38,034 --> 02:49:40,203
appreciate your the verbal

5428
02:49:40,203 --> 02:49:41,871
amendment that you're making

5429
02:49:41,871 --> 02:49:43,806
today. I do intend to support

5430
02:49:43,806 --> 02:49:44,807
the amendment that you were

5431
02:49:44,807 --> 02:49:49,979
making, but I do not intend to

5432
02:49:49,979 --> 02:49:50,613
support the original amendment,

5433
02:49:50,613 --> 02:49:54,183
and I will save my comments for

5434
02:49:54,183 --> 02:49:54,817
the original amendment when we

5435
02:49:54,817 --> 02:49:55,585
go. Go to that.

5436
02:49:55,585 --> 02:49:56,519
-- thank you. Councilmember

5437
02:49:56,519 --> 02:49:59,255
foster are there any other

5438
02:49:59,255 --> 02:49:59,923
comments to the amendment to the

5439
02:49:59,923 --> 02:50:02,058
amendment? This is to remove a

5440
02:50:02,058 --> 02:50:04,127
cat or and this is an oral

5441
02:50:04,127 --> 02:50:05,595
amendment. We suspended the

5442
02:50:05,595 --> 02:50:07,864
rules. Okay. Awesome.

5443
02:50:07,864 --> 02:50:09,265
councilmember kettle do you have

5444
02:50:09,265 --> 02:50:11,401
any closing? None. Will the

5445
02:50:11,401 --> 02:50:12,936
clerk please call the roll on

5446
02:50:12,936 --> 02:50:15,738
us? Voting on the amendment to

5447
02:50:15,738 --> 02:50:17,240
the amendment which is removing

5448
02:50:17,240 --> 02:50:20,076
a cat or

5449
02:50:20,076 --> 02:50:24,747
-- councilmember foster.

5450
02:50:24,747 --> 02:50:24,981
-- yes.

5451
02:50:24,981 --> 02:50:25,515
-- councilmember juarez

5452
02:50:25,515 --> 02:50:27,584
councilmember kettle. A

5453
02:50:27,584 --> 02:50:28,017
councilmember lin.

5454
02:50:28,017 --> 02:50:29,919
-- yes.

5455
02:50:29,919 --> 02:50:30,453
-- councilmember rinck.

5456
02:50:30,453 --> 02:50:33,756
-- yes.

5457
02:50:33,756 --> 02:50:34,390
-- councilmember rivera. Present

5458
02:50:34,390 --> 02:50:36,092
councilmember saka. Aye.

5459
02:50:36,092 --> 02:50:39,495
-- councilmember strauss aye.

5460
02:50:39,495 --> 02:50:39,963
-- council president

5461
02:50:39,963 --> 02:50:40,997
hollingsworth.

5462
02:50:40,997 --> 02:50:41,230
-- yes.

5463
02:50:41,230 --> 02:50:42,732
-- eight in favor. None opposed.

5464
02:50:42,732 --> 02:50:43,967
one disqualified.

5465
02:50:43,967 --> 02:50:47,036
-- so the motion carries and the

5466
02:50:47,036 --> 02:50:49,872
amended the the amendment to the

5467
02:50:49,872 --> 02:50:51,441
amendment is adopted. And now we

5468
02:50:51,441 --> 02:50:53,810
are going to now talk about

5469
02:50:53,810 --> 02:50:56,245
amendment c. So. Councilmember

5470
02:50:56,245 --> 02:50:57,747
kettle do you. Nothing further.

5471
02:50:57,747 --> 02:51:00,350
okay. Are there any other

5472
02:51:00,350 --> 02:51:01,184
colleagues that have any

5473
02:51:01,184 --> 02:51:04,754
comments about amendment c?

5474
02:51:04,754 --> 02:51:05,355
-- councilmember foster thank

5475
02:51:05,355 --> 02:51:06,956
you so much, council president.

5476
02:51:06,956 --> 02:51:08,658
first, I want to express my

5477
02:51:08,658 --> 02:51:10,159
appreciation to you.

5478
02:51:10,159 --> 02:51:10,860
councilmember kettle and I know

5479
02:51:10,860 --> 02:51:11,961
you don't sit on the housing

5480
02:51:11,961 --> 02:51:12,996
committee, but I do want to

5481
02:51:12,996 --> 02:51:14,397
appreciate you and your office

5482
02:51:14,397 --> 02:51:17,834
for being responsive and

5483
02:51:17,834 --> 02:51:19,402
communicative around the ideas

5484
02:51:19,402 --> 02:51:20,403
that you had around the the

5485
02:51:20,403 --> 02:51:21,104
underlying legislation. And just

5486
02:51:21,104 --> 02:51:23,272
thank you for your transparency

5487
02:51:23,272 --> 02:51:25,742
and collaboration there. And

5488
02:51:25,742 --> 02:51:28,411
again, for, for the dialing in

5489
02:51:28,411 --> 02:51:30,213
and committee today. For me, one

5490
02:51:30,213 --> 02:51:32,682
of the important parts of this

5491
02:51:32,682 --> 02:51:34,884
conversation is that we are

5492
02:51:34,884 --> 02:51:36,286
still allowing the ability for

5493
02:51:36,286 --> 02:51:39,188
landlords to use damage

5494
02:51:39,188 --> 02:51:40,523
deposits, as

5495
02:51:40,523 --> 02:51:42,592
-- well as to recoup any fees to

5496
02:51:42,592 --> 02:51:44,227
units for damage incurred by a

5497
02:51:44,227 --> 02:51:46,195
pet. And so for that reason, I

5498
02:51:46,195 --> 02:51:48,097
will not be supporting this

5499
02:51:48,097 --> 02:51:49,499
updated amendment today. Thank

5500
02:51:49,499 --> 02:51:50,199
you.

5501
02:51:50,199 --> 02:51:50,767
-- thank you. Councilmember

5502
02:51:50,767 --> 02:51:54,070
foster. Are there any other

5503
02:51:54,070 --> 02:51:56,105
comments regarding amendment c

5504
02:51:56,105 --> 02:51:59,809
as amended? Councilmember lin

5505
02:51:59,809 --> 02:52:00,443
-- thank you, council president

5506
02:52:00,443 --> 02:52:01,878
and councilmember kettle. Thanks

5507
02:52:01,878 --> 02:52:06,716
for for bringing this forward.

5508
02:52:06,716 --> 02:52:08,117
and for the amendment aye. The

5509
02:52:08,117 --> 02:52:09,786
amendment to the amendment I do

5510
02:52:09,786 --> 02:52:13,022
you know, I read, you know, some

5511
02:52:13,022 --> 02:52:16,125
of the feedback we received,

5512
02:52:16,125 --> 02:52:16,793
including betsy hudson's. And,

5513
02:52:16,793 --> 02:52:18,327
you know, I do think there are

5514
02:52:18,327 --> 02:52:21,798
real costs that landlords face

5515
02:52:21,798 --> 02:52:27,904
that are not always captured by

5516
02:52:27,904 --> 02:52:28,538
the damaged deposits. And so I

5517
02:52:28,538 --> 02:52:32,842
do think that those costs will

5518
02:52:32,842 --> 02:52:35,111
be sort of spread out. I don't

5519
02:52:35,111 --> 02:52:37,046
know what it's hard to know is

5520
02:52:37,046 --> 02:52:40,083
what how much those costs really

5521
02:52:40,083 --> 02:52:42,819
are. And but I think we've also

5522
02:52:42,819 --> 02:52:45,555
heard from a lot of tenant

5523
02:52:45,555 --> 02:52:47,924
advocates that, you know, that

5524
02:52:47,924 --> 02:52:49,659
that even if those costs are

5525
02:52:49,659 --> 02:52:52,361
spread out, that that is

5526
02:52:52,361 --> 02:52:55,098
something that is better than

5527
02:52:55,098 --> 02:52:59,001
pet rent itself, that. And so,

5528
02:52:59,001 --> 02:53:01,637
you know, and I think about I

5529
02:53:01,637 --> 02:53:03,840
have not been a renter for, for

5530
02:53:03,840 --> 02:53:05,975
a bit now, but, you know, I do

5531
02:53:05,975 --> 02:53:10,379
think pet rent is something that

5532
02:53:10,379 --> 02:53:11,881
is relatively new. And, you

5533
02:53:11,881 --> 02:53:13,449
know, somehow landlords were

5534
02:53:13,449 --> 02:53:15,184
able to get by for, for many,

5535
02:53:15,184 --> 02:53:17,120
many years without charging pet

5536
02:53:17,120 --> 02:53:23,359
rent or frankly, all these other

5537
02:53:23,359 --> 02:53:23,926
fees that we are hopefully

5538
02:53:23,926 --> 02:53:24,994
banning today. And so I just

5539
02:53:24,994 --> 02:53:27,063
want to say, I appreciate the

5540
02:53:27,063 --> 02:53:29,799
concern and the, the intent

5541
02:53:29,799 --> 02:53:33,436
behind it, but I won't be

5542
02:53:33,436 --> 02:53:33,903
supporting it today.

5543
02:53:33,903 --> 02:53:35,204
-- thank you. Councilmember lin,

5544
02:53:35,204 --> 02:53:37,507
are there any other comments

5545
02:53:37,507 --> 02:53:38,508
regarding amendment c as

5546
02:53:38,508 --> 02:53:40,710
amended? We are voting on the

5547
02:53:40,710 --> 02:53:42,612
underlying amendment c, as

5548
02:53:42,612 --> 02:53:46,115
amended, to the council. Bill

5549
02:53:46,115 --> 02:53:48,518
councilmember kettle do you have

5550
02:53:48,518 --> 02:53:48,885
any follow up?

5551
02:53:48,885 --> 02:53:49,318
-- nothing.

5552
02:53:49,318 --> 02:53:51,454
-- okay. Thank you. Will the

5553
02:53:51,454 --> 02:53:52,288
clerk please call the roll on?

5554
02:53:52,288 --> 02:53:54,223
amended on amendment c as

5555
02:53:54,223 --> 02:53:57,727
amended

5556
02:53:57,727 --> 02:54:01,998
-- councilmember foster no.

5557
02:54:01,998 --> 02:54:02,498
-- councilmember juarez

5558
02:54:02,498 --> 02:54:04,700
councilmember kettle. A

5559
02:54:04,700 --> 02:54:05,134
councilmember lin.

5560
02:54:05,134 --> 02:54:06,869
-- no.

5561
02:54:06,869 --> 02:54:07,436
-- councilmember rinck.

5562
02:54:07,436 --> 02:54:10,173
-- no.

5563
02:54:10,173 --> 02:54:10,706
-- councilmember rivera.

5564
02:54:10,706 --> 02:54:17,580
-- present.

5565
02:54:17,580 --> 02:54:18,147
-- councilmember saka nay.

5566
02:54:18,147 --> 02:54:18,714
councilmember strauss nay.

5567
02:54:18,714 --> 02:54:19,182
-- council president

5568
02:54:19,182 --> 02:54:20,716
hollingsworth.

5569
02:54:20,716 --> 02:54:20,950
-- no.

5570
02:54:20,950 --> 02:54:22,118
-- one in favor seven opposed

5571
02:54:22,118 --> 02:54:23,686
one disqualified.

5572
02:54:23,686 --> 02:54:25,521
-- motion fails. An amendment c

5573
02:54:25,521 --> 02:54:29,859
is not adopted. Councilmember

5574
02:54:29,859 --> 02:54:32,028
kettle you are recognized to

5575
02:54:32,028 --> 02:54:32,728
move amendment d.

5576
02:54:32,728 --> 02:54:36,132
-- council president, I move to

5577
02:54:36,132 --> 02:54:36,766
amend move amendment d version

5578
02:54:36,766 --> 02:54:39,802
one to council bill 12125 for

5579
02:54:39,802 --> 02:54:40,703
-- second it's been moved and

5580
02:54:40,703 --> 02:54:42,905
second to amend the bill as

5581
02:54:42,905 --> 02:54:43,439
presented on amendment d

5582
02:54:43,439 --> 02:54:44,073
councilmember kettle you're

5583
02:54:44,073 --> 02:54:45,308
recognized in order to address

5584
02:54:45,308 --> 02:54:45,508
it.

5585
02:54:45,508 --> 02:54:47,276
-- council president, a big

5586
02:54:47,276 --> 02:54:49,412
challenge that we have in our

5587
02:54:49,412 --> 02:54:50,046
country is financial literacy.

5588
02:54:50,046 --> 02:54:52,515
this has come up in many ways.

5589
02:54:52,515 --> 02:54:54,250
came up in interview I had on

5590
02:54:54,250 --> 02:54:56,719
kow not long ago. The our state

5591
02:54:56,719 --> 02:54:58,120
treasurer has been speaking to

5592
02:54:58,120 --> 02:55:00,690
the idea of financial literacy,

5593
02:55:00,690 --> 02:55:03,659
particularly in the curriculum

5594
02:55:03,659 --> 02:55:06,662
at our schools and financial

5595
02:55:06,662 --> 02:55:09,632
literacy has many pieces to it,

5596
02:55:09,632 --> 02:55:10,867
you know, savings. There's

5597
02:55:10,867 --> 02:55:12,335
investments, but it's also

5598
02:55:12,335 --> 02:55:15,304
insurance. And being smart and

5599
02:55:15,304 --> 02:55:17,073
having that financial literacy.

5600
02:55:17,073 --> 02:55:18,574
you know, the insurance piece is

5601
02:55:18,574 --> 02:55:22,979
really important. And so this

5602
02:55:22,979 --> 02:55:23,946
amendment is forwarded is not

5603
02:55:23,946 --> 02:55:25,014
only good governance, but good

5604
02:55:25,014 --> 02:55:26,749
practice. And I recognize the

5605
02:55:26,749 --> 02:55:29,018
points, but if one reads

5606
02:55:29,018 --> 02:55:30,319
mentioned in public comment, but

5607
02:55:30,319 --> 02:55:33,689
if you read the amendment, it's

5608
02:55:33,689 --> 02:55:34,323
quite straightforward that this

5609
02:55:34,323 --> 02:55:36,926
is something that there's no

5610
02:55:36,926 --> 02:55:38,060
requirement, but it's

5611
02:55:38,060 --> 02:55:39,262
encouraging this because this is

5612
02:55:39,262 --> 02:55:41,898
in the good tenants of financial

5613
02:55:41,898 --> 02:55:43,032
literacy. So long term. And I

5614
02:55:43,032 --> 02:55:45,935
think about, by the way, that

5615
02:55:45,935 --> 02:55:48,971
this this shows up in many ways,

5616
02:55:48,971 --> 02:55:51,641
christchurch, new zealand, had a

5617
02:55:51,641 --> 02:55:53,709
very strong insurance rate. So

5618
02:55:53,709 --> 02:55:54,977
when they had their earthquake,

5619
02:55:54,977 --> 02:55:56,112
they were able to respond

5620
02:55:56,112 --> 02:55:57,346
quickly and better compared to

5621
02:55:57,346 --> 02:55:59,849
other cities across the world.

5622
02:55:59,849 --> 02:56:00,983
and over time. And, you know, we

5623
02:56:00,983 --> 02:56:02,718
are a, you know, a situation

5624
02:56:02,718 --> 02:56:04,086
where we could have something

5625
02:56:04,086 --> 02:56:07,957
similar to that, you know, I

5626
02:56:07,957 --> 02:56:08,624
don't not expecting wildfires,

5627
02:56:08,624 --> 02:56:11,560
but, you know, you never know.

5628
02:56:11,560 --> 02:56:15,631
insurance is a smart financial

5629
02:56:15,631 --> 02:56:18,000
literacy move. And this is

5630
02:56:18,000 --> 02:56:20,336
something that, again, is not

5631
02:56:20,336 --> 02:56:22,371
mandating it. It's very

5632
02:56:22,371 --> 02:56:24,307
straightforward. It's very

5633
02:56:24,307 --> 02:56:25,241
simple. And colleagues, I ask

5634
02:56:25,241 --> 02:56:27,810
for your support.

5635
02:56:27,810 --> 02:56:29,178
-- awesome. Thank you.

5636
02:56:29,178 --> 02:56:31,948
councilmember kettle are there

5637
02:56:31,948 --> 02:56:32,582
any comments regarding amendment

5638
02:56:32,582 --> 02:56:38,554
d? Amendment d? All right.

5639
02:56:38,554 --> 02:56:40,089
seeing none one definitely take

5640
02:56:40,089 --> 02:56:42,091
this time to thank councilmember

5641
02:56:42,091 --> 02:56:45,261
kettle for all your amendments

5642
02:56:45,261 --> 02:56:45,928
and hard working thought you put

5643
02:56:45,928 --> 02:56:47,830
behind all this well, clerk,

5644
02:56:47,830 --> 02:56:50,066
please call the roll. Do you

5645
02:56:50,066 --> 02:56:51,200
have any you said no closing

5646
02:56:51,200 --> 02:56:51,867
comments. Will the clerk please

5647
02:56:51,867 --> 02:56:55,004
call the roll an amendment d.

5648
02:56:55,004 --> 02:57:01,410
-- councilmember foster no.

5649
02:57:01,410 --> 02:57:01,944
-- councilmember juarez.

5650
02:57:01,944 --> 02:57:03,479
-- councilmember juarez no.

5651
02:57:03,479 --> 02:57:06,515
-- thank you. Councilmember

5652
02:57:06,515 --> 02:57:06,749
kettle.

5653
02:57:06,749 --> 02:57:06,983
-- aye.

5654
02:57:06,983 --> 02:57:09,385
-- councilmember lin no.

5655
02:57:09,385 --> 02:57:11,087
-- councilmember rinck. No.

5656
02:57:11,087 --> 02:57:15,091
-- councilmember rivera

5657
02:57:15,091 --> 02:57:15,424
-- present.

5658
02:57:15,424 --> 02:57:15,925
-- councilmember saka.

5659
02:57:15,925 --> 02:57:18,894
-- nay.

5660
02:57:18,894 --> 02:57:19,862
-- councilmember strauss.

5661
02:57:19,862 --> 02:57:20,096
-- no.

5662
02:57:20,096 --> 02:57:20,629
-- council chair. Council

5663
02:57:20,629 --> 02:57:22,765
president. Hollingsworth.

5664
02:57:22,765 --> 02:57:23,032
-- no.

5665
02:57:23,032 --> 02:57:24,166
-- one in favor. One in favor

5666
02:57:24,166 --> 02:57:25,801
seven opposed one disqualified.

5667
02:57:25,801 --> 02:57:29,005
-- motion fails. Amendment d is

5668
02:57:29,005 --> 02:57:29,572
not adopted. Councilmember

5669
02:57:29,572 --> 02:57:30,306
foster you are recognized to

5670
02:57:30,306 --> 02:57:32,208
move your amendment.

5671
02:57:32,208 --> 02:57:35,678
-- I move amendment e. Do I have

5672
02:57:35,678 --> 02:57:35,945
a second?

5673
02:57:35,945 --> 02:57:36,245
-- second.

5674
02:57:36,245 --> 02:57:37,513
-- it's been moved. And second

5675
02:57:37,513 --> 02:57:38,914
to amend bill as presented on

5676
02:57:38,914 --> 02:57:39,548
amendment e councilmember foster

5677
02:57:39,548 --> 02:57:41,017
you recognize in order to

5678
02:57:41,017 --> 02:57:41,917
address it.

5679
02:57:41,917 --> 02:57:43,219
-- thank you so much, council

5680
02:57:43,219 --> 02:57:45,087
president. So this is a

5681
02:57:45,087 --> 02:57:46,789
clarification and an update to

5682
02:57:46,789 --> 02:57:48,591
an amendment that I brought to

5683
02:57:48,591 --> 02:57:50,026
committee. And the spirit of

5684
02:57:50,026 --> 02:57:52,828
this is that we wanted to ensure

5685
02:57:52,828 --> 02:57:54,697
clarity that sdci has the

5686
02:57:54,697 --> 02:57:55,665
authority to seek voluntary

5687
02:57:55,665 --> 02:57:57,600
compliance. That's authority

5688
02:57:57,600 --> 02:57:59,535
that was already provided to

5689
02:57:59,535 --> 02:58:00,436
them elsewhere in our code,

5690
02:58:00,436 --> 02:58:01,537
however, we codified that,

5691
02:58:01,537 --> 02:58:03,439
bringing it into this portion of

5692
02:58:03,439 --> 02:58:05,508
the code, and we did that in an

5693
02:58:05,508 --> 02:58:06,809
amendment in committee. We had

5694
02:58:06,809 --> 02:58:09,111
some ongoing engagement with

5695
02:58:09,111 --> 02:58:10,846
community members following

5696
02:58:10,846 --> 02:58:12,248
passing this out of committee

5697
02:58:12,248 --> 02:58:13,249
last week. And we are bringing

5698
02:58:13,249 --> 02:58:15,084
I'm bringing forth this

5699
02:58:15,084 --> 02:58:17,286
amendment to offer a couple of

5700
02:58:17,286 --> 02:58:19,155
clarifications and refinements.

5701
02:58:19,155 --> 02:58:21,691
so you'll see this language

5702
02:58:21,691 --> 02:58:24,593
states that the sdci director

5703
02:58:24,593 --> 02:58:25,861
can offer voluntary compliance

5704
02:58:25,861 --> 02:58:28,631
at a minimum to include full

5705
02:58:28,631 --> 02:58:29,231
reimbursement to all tenants.

5706
02:58:29,231 --> 02:58:30,766
this is similar to what we heard

5707
02:58:30,766 --> 02:58:32,234
councilmember lin speak to, to

5708
02:58:32,234 --> 02:58:34,570
ensure that we are covering

5709
02:58:34,570 --> 02:58:36,105
remedies for tenants when

5710
02:58:36,105 --> 02:58:36,772
something is done to one tenant.

5711
02:58:36,772 --> 02:58:38,240
if the same practice has

5712
02:58:38,240 --> 02:58:39,909
happened across the board that

5713
02:58:39,909 --> 02:58:41,911
the sdci director can seek that

5714
02:58:41,911 --> 02:58:42,545
voluntary compliance across the

5715
02:58:42,545 --> 02:58:45,247
board, we are also making a

5716
02:58:45,247 --> 02:58:46,082
refinement. I am making a

5717
02:58:46,082 --> 02:58:49,652
refinement here that states that

5718
02:58:49,652 --> 02:58:50,252
that voluntary compliance can

5719
02:58:50,252 --> 02:58:53,856
only be offered to a landlord if

5720
02:58:53,856 --> 02:58:54,390
the director has executed

5721
02:58:54,390 --> 02:58:58,661
voluntary compliance. No more

5722
02:58:58,661 --> 02:58:59,528
than twice in the past three

5723
02:58:59,528 --> 02:59:01,530
years. So this is the spirit of

5724
02:59:01,530 --> 02:59:03,065
the law, is to ensure that we

5725
02:59:03,065 --> 02:59:05,000
have the ability to get

5726
02:59:05,000 --> 02:59:06,302
voluntary compliance. However,

5727
02:59:06,302 --> 02:59:08,170
the spirit is not intended to

5728
02:59:08,170 --> 02:59:10,172
see repeat voluntary compliance

5729
02:59:10,172 --> 02:59:10,739
because that's going to

5730
02:59:10,739 --> 02:59:12,241
indicate something else going

5731
02:59:12,241 --> 02:59:13,776
on. So we are offering this

5732
02:59:13,776 --> 02:59:16,078
amendment to clarify and provide

5733
02:59:16,078 --> 02:59:18,881
that direction to sdci and

5734
02:59:18,881 --> 02:59:19,448
colleagues. I ask for your

5735
02:59:19,448 --> 02:59:20,483
support.

5736
02:59:20,483 --> 02:59:21,050
-- thank you. Councilmember

5737
02:59:21,050 --> 02:59:22,685
fosters are there. Excuse me.

5738
02:59:22,685 --> 02:59:26,789
councilmember foster, are there

5739
02:59:26,789 --> 02:59:27,423
any comments regarding amendment

5740
02:59:27,423 --> 02:59:29,425
e? Seeing none, do you have any

5741
02:59:29,425 --> 02:59:30,059
closing comments? Councilmember

5742
02:59:30,059 --> 02:59:30,960
foster will the clerk please

5743
02:59:30,960 --> 02:59:34,497
call the roll on amendment e?

5744
02:59:34,497 --> 02:59:39,268
-- councilmember foster yes.

5745
02:59:39,268 --> 02:59:41,937
-- councilmember juarez.

5746
02:59:41,937 --> 02:59:42,404
councilmember kettle.

5747
02:59:42,404 --> 02:59:42,638
-- aye.

5748
02:59:42,638 --> 02:59:45,074
-- councilmember lin yes.

5749
02:59:45,074 --> 02:59:45,574
-- councilmember rinck.

5750
02:59:45,574 --> 02:59:49,879
-- yes.

5751
02:59:49,879 --> 02:59:51,080
-- councilmember rivera present.

5752
02:59:51,080 --> 02:59:51,514
councilmember saka.

5753
02:59:51,514 --> 02:59:54,517
-- aye.

5754
02:59:54,517 --> 02:59:55,251
-- councilmember strauss council

5755
02:59:55,251 --> 02:59:57,520
president. Hollingsworth eight

5756
02:59:57,520 --> 03:00:00,222
in favor? None opposed one

5757
03:00:00,222 --> 03:00:00,623
disqualified.

5758
03:00:00,623 --> 03:00:01,323
-- amendment d amendment. The

5759
03:00:01,323 --> 03:00:03,959
motion carries. Amendment is

5760
03:00:03,959 --> 03:00:04,760
adopted. All right. Colleagues,

5761
03:00:04,760 --> 03:00:06,595
are there any other final

5762
03:00:06,595 --> 03:00:08,397
comments on the bill as amended?

5763
03:00:08,397 --> 03:00:09,965
councilmember foster as sponsor

5764
03:00:09,965 --> 03:00:11,800
will hold yours till the end, if

5765
03:00:11,800 --> 03:00:13,269
that's cool. And then we'll see

5766
03:00:13,269 --> 03:00:13,903
if any other councilmembers have

5767
03:00:13,903 --> 03:00:15,805
any comments, and then I'll

5768
03:00:15,805 --> 03:00:21,210
throw it to councilmember foster

5769
03:00:21,210 --> 03:00:21,677
councilmember kettle.

5770
03:00:21,677 --> 03:00:23,045
-- thank you, council president.

5771
03:00:23,045 --> 03:00:25,881
I do have a few comments. I'm

5772
03:00:25,881 --> 03:00:26,549
just going to add actually a

5773
03:00:26,549 --> 03:00:27,183
little bit up front, because I

5774
03:00:27,183 --> 03:00:31,320
forgot to mention this, so I'll

5775
03:00:31,320 --> 03:00:34,456
mention it now in my hand, I

5776
03:00:34,456 --> 03:00:36,125
have the central staff memo on

5777
03:00:36,125 --> 03:00:38,827
this bill, council bill 121254,

5778
03:00:38,827 --> 03:00:40,329
written by miss harper analyst

5779
03:00:40,329 --> 03:00:41,330
and central staff. And I thank

5780
03:00:41,330 --> 03:00:43,866
her for this document. It's

5781
03:00:43,866 --> 03:00:46,535
interesting if you read this

5782
03:00:46,535 --> 03:00:47,603
document, nowhere in this

5783
03:00:47,603 --> 03:00:51,240
document do you find the word

5784
03:00:51,240 --> 03:00:53,309
junk. I would argue that this

5785
03:00:53,309 --> 03:00:55,110
document is being held to a

5786
03:00:55,110 --> 03:00:56,812
higher standard than the bill

5787
03:00:56,812 --> 03:00:57,980
itself. As respects to the use

5788
03:00:57,980 --> 03:01:01,450
of the word junk. And again,

5789
03:01:01,450 --> 03:01:04,420
it's important how you talk

5790
03:01:04,420 --> 03:01:05,754
about things. It's important to

5791
03:01:05,754 --> 03:01:08,490
have a formal legal industry

5792
03:01:08,490 --> 03:01:11,627
standard, not colloquial

5793
03:01:11,627 --> 03:01:18,467
colloquial phrases. I had three

5794
03:01:18,467 --> 03:01:19,168
amendments here, but I also had

5795
03:01:19,168 --> 03:01:21,136
two others. I had five total

5796
03:01:21,136 --> 03:01:22,137
amendments. The other two

5797
03:01:22,137 --> 03:01:24,440
amendments my team worked with

5798
03:01:24,440 --> 03:01:24,974
councilmember foster and

5799
03:01:24,974 --> 03:01:25,574
councilmember lin's team. I

5800
03:01:25,574 --> 03:01:27,176
want to thank them and their

5801
03:01:27,176 --> 03:01:29,645
teams for working with my team

5802
03:01:29,645 --> 03:01:32,181
on those amendments. There was

5803
03:01:32,181 --> 03:01:33,749
no cosponsorship on those, but

5804
03:01:33,749 --> 03:01:36,118
again, I appreciate having my

5805
03:01:36,118 --> 03:01:38,087
team have the opportunity to

5806
03:01:38,087 --> 03:01:40,289
work with councilmember

5807
03:01:40,289 --> 03:01:40,956
foster's team and councilmember

5808
03:01:40,956 --> 03:01:45,361
lin's team. Rental fee landlord

5809
03:01:45,361 --> 03:01:48,097
rent. Tenant is very complex,

5810
03:01:48,097 --> 03:01:49,865
and I've been speaking about

5811
03:01:49,865 --> 03:01:52,101
affordability a lot,

5812
03:01:52,101 --> 03:01:53,936
particularly as it relates to

5813
03:01:53,936 --> 03:01:56,538
property taxes, sales taxes,

5814
03:01:56,538 --> 03:01:58,741
utility rates and what we do or

5815
03:01:58,741 --> 03:02:00,142
do not do ourselves. The county

5816
03:02:00,142 --> 03:02:02,111
and the state. But I've also

5817
03:02:02,111 --> 03:02:03,379
noted that affordability is not

5818
03:02:03,379 --> 03:02:05,080
just for residents, also for

5819
03:02:05,080 --> 03:02:09,685
businesses too. And we do have

5820
03:02:09,685 --> 03:02:11,186
we need to be mindful of that.

5821
03:02:11,186 --> 03:02:12,388
we do have a wide range of

5822
03:02:12,388 --> 03:02:14,590
landlords, and we need to ensure

5823
03:02:14,590 --> 03:02:17,493
that we make housing available

5824
03:02:17,493 --> 03:02:19,828
and affordable, and that is our

5825
03:02:19,828 --> 03:02:21,297
north star. And my concern is

5826
03:02:21,297 --> 03:02:23,465
those small scale landlords, you

5827
03:02:23,465 --> 03:02:25,000
know, sometimes called mom and

5828
03:02:25,000 --> 03:02:25,601
pop and the like, because

5829
03:02:25,601 --> 03:02:26,802
they're the ones who really

5830
03:02:26,802 --> 03:02:30,639
provide those affordable housing

5831
03:02:30,639 --> 03:02:31,307
options. And I've seen it so

5832
03:02:31,307 --> 03:02:34,777
often here in seattle and in

5833
03:02:34,777 --> 03:02:36,412
district seven. I just wanted to

5834
03:02:36,412 --> 03:02:38,580
note that. And I also wanted to

5835
03:02:38,580 --> 03:02:40,549
note too, that there's more work

5836
03:02:40,549 --> 03:02:41,750
to be done. Two years ago, I had

5837
03:02:41,750 --> 03:02:43,585
the housing development

5838
03:02:43,585 --> 03:02:45,154
consortium in my office, and

5839
03:02:45,154 --> 03:02:46,422
they were adamant that we have

5840
03:02:46,422 --> 03:02:49,858
to get four bills done. Related

5841
03:02:49,858 --> 03:02:51,393
to landlord tenant because the

5842
03:02:51,393 --> 03:02:52,861
affordable housing world is

5843
03:02:52,861 --> 03:02:53,696
their landlords, too. They're

5844
03:02:53,696 --> 03:02:58,167
having a lot of challenges. But

5845
03:02:58,167 --> 03:03:00,002
nothing has ever happened with

5846
03:03:00,002 --> 03:03:01,203
those bills. This is where we

5847
03:03:01,203 --> 03:03:02,838
are in the landlord tenant

5848
03:03:02,838 --> 03:03:04,473
world. And I think we need to do

5849
03:03:04,473 --> 03:03:05,474
better. I think we need to do

5850
03:03:05,474 --> 03:03:07,977
more for all the reasons that

5851
03:03:07,977 --> 03:03:10,112
were brought up in public

5852
03:03:10,112 --> 03:03:11,413
comment, I should add, and

5853
03:03:11,413 --> 03:03:11,980
affordability should be the

5854
03:03:11,980 --> 03:03:13,282
baseline on that. But the other

5855
03:03:13,282 --> 03:03:16,352
baseline should be transparency.

5856
03:03:16,352 --> 03:03:18,354
and transparency is good

5857
03:03:18,354 --> 03:03:20,789
governance and good business. So

5858
03:03:20,789 --> 03:03:23,392
I recognize people have opinions

5859
03:03:23,392 --> 03:03:24,293
about my amendments. The two

5860
03:03:24,293 --> 03:03:24,994
that you didn't know and the

5861
03:03:24,994 --> 03:03:29,531
three that you do know. But

5862
03:03:29,531 --> 03:03:31,300
transparency is key. Again, good

5863
03:03:31,300 --> 03:03:31,900
governance and good business.

5864
03:03:31,900 --> 03:03:34,269
and so councilmember foster and

5865
03:03:34,269 --> 03:03:35,371
colleagues, I will be voting I

5866
03:03:35,371 --> 03:03:38,240
on this bill.

5867
03:03:38,240 --> 03:03:41,377
-- thank you. Councilmember

5868
03:03:41,377 --> 03:03:43,979
kettle councilmember rinck.

5869
03:03:43,979 --> 03:03:44,880
-- thank you, council president.

5870
03:03:44,880 --> 03:03:46,682
I want to start by thanking the

5871
03:03:46,682 --> 03:03:48,083
mayor's office and their team

5872
03:03:48,083 --> 03:03:50,219
for working over months

5873
03:03:50,219 --> 03:03:52,021
alongside renters and advocates

5874
03:03:52,021 --> 03:03:53,255
to shape this legislation from

5875
03:03:53,255 --> 03:03:55,891
sending out the renters survey

5876
03:03:55,891 --> 03:03:57,426
to understand the landscape of

5877
03:03:57,426 --> 03:03:59,061
junk fees to the town halls,

5878
03:03:59,061 --> 03:04:01,230
directly engaging with renters.

5879
03:04:01,230 --> 03:04:04,333
and I want to also thank

5880
03:04:04,333 --> 03:04:04,933
councilmember foster for your

5881
03:04:04,933 --> 03:04:06,535
leadership and guiding this

5882
03:04:06,535 --> 03:04:08,337
legislation through the housing,

5883
03:04:08,337 --> 03:04:10,439
arts and civil rights committee.

5884
03:04:10,439 --> 03:04:11,073
today's legislation is about

5885
03:04:11,073 --> 03:04:13,008
transparency, fairness and

5886
03:04:13,008 --> 03:04:13,776
addressing the cost of living

5887
03:04:13,776 --> 03:04:16,311
crisis that is rocking seattle

5888
03:04:16,311 --> 03:04:17,479
households. We talk about the

5889
03:04:17,479 --> 03:04:18,714
cost of living crisis, sometimes

5890
03:04:18,714 --> 03:04:21,683
in an abstract way, but in

5891
03:04:21,683 --> 03:04:23,018
reality, when a cost is too

5892
03:04:23,018 --> 03:04:24,653
high, when people are nickel and

5893
03:04:24,653 --> 03:04:26,121
dimed, that's less money at the

5894
03:04:26,121 --> 03:04:29,024
end of the day, to be able to

5895
03:04:29,024 --> 03:04:29,725
navigate all the things that

5896
03:04:29,725 --> 03:04:31,894
life throws at us, that means

5897
03:04:31,894 --> 03:04:34,029
eviction. That means

5898
03:04:34,029 --> 03:04:35,064
homelessness. So at the end of

5899
03:04:35,064 --> 03:04:36,465
the day, the bill before us is

5900
03:04:36,465 --> 03:04:38,333
about transparency. And when the

5901
03:04:38,333 --> 03:04:41,203
price of rent for a unit is

5902
03:04:41,203 --> 03:04:43,705
advertised as one thing. But

5903
03:04:43,705 --> 03:04:44,306
after multiple junk fees are

5904
03:04:44,306 --> 03:04:47,409
added on top of that, people

5905
03:04:47,409 --> 03:04:48,010
find themselves locked into a

5906
03:04:48,010 --> 03:04:49,778
default rent price they can't

5907
03:04:49,778 --> 03:04:52,314
afford. And this bill

5908
03:04:52,314 --> 03:04:52,915
incentivizes upfront honesty

5909
03:04:52,915 --> 03:04:54,249
about how much that rent will

5910
03:04:54,249 --> 03:04:56,251
actually be, while still

5911
03:04:56,251 --> 03:04:58,020
allowing for necessary fees like

5912
03:04:58,020 --> 03:04:59,421
wi-fi, utilities, late fees, and

5913
03:04:59,421 --> 03:05:01,824
more. I've talked about this

5914
03:05:01,824 --> 03:05:04,726
often, but I'll say it again

5915
03:05:04,726 --> 03:05:06,261
I'm a renter. I've rented

5916
03:05:06,261 --> 03:05:07,396
seven different apartments in

5917
03:05:07,396 --> 03:05:09,298
the city, and I'm sure I'll

5918
03:05:09,298 --> 03:05:10,699
rent many more apartments in

5919
03:05:10,699 --> 03:05:12,801
this city for the years to come.

5920
03:05:12,801 --> 03:05:14,303
and that experience is not

5921
03:05:14,303 --> 03:05:17,372
unique by a long shot. So I am

5922
03:05:17,372 --> 03:05:18,407
excited today that we are taking

5923
03:05:18,407 --> 03:05:20,309
a step further. Renter majority

5924
03:05:20,309 --> 03:05:21,844
of our city and for a more

5925
03:05:21,844 --> 03:05:24,079
affordable city. Thank you.

5926
03:05:24,079 --> 03:05:24,646
-- thank you, councilmember

5927
03:05:24,646 --> 03:05:26,849
rinck. Are there any other

5928
03:05:26,849 --> 03:05:27,416
comments regarding the bill

5929
03:05:27,416 --> 03:05:31,920
before I kick it to the sponsor?

5930
03:05:31,920 --> 03:05:32,387
councilmember foster.

5931
03:05:32,387 --> 03:05:34,056
-- thank you so much. Council

5932
03:05:34,056 --> 03:05:35,290
president, I actually want to

5933
03:05:35,290 --> 03:05:37,159
just turn back to councilmember

5934
03:05:37,159 --> 03:05:37,993
kettle and say and just say this

5935
03:05:37,993 --> 03:05:38,961
to the public. I the work that

5936
03:05:38,961 --> 03:05:41,530
our office did on what was

5937
03:05:41,530 --> 03:05:42,931
amendment three and then was

5938
03:05:42,931 --> 03:05:45,334
amendment e today was made

5939
03:05:45,334 --> 03:05:46,335
better by councilmember kettle

5940
03:05:46,335 --> 03:05:47,603
office. And I'll say there's

5941
03:05:47,603 --> 03:05:48,904
things that we disagree on. And

5942
03:05:48,904 --> 03:05:51,507
when we disagree, we disagree.

5943
03:05:51,507 --> 03:05:52,741
and the things that we agree on.

5944
03:05:52,741 --> 03:05:54,943
I really appreciated your

5945
03:05:54,943 --> 03:05:55,444
partnership and want to

5946
03:05:55,444 --> 03:05:57,279
acknowledge that because

5947
03:05:57,279 --> 03:05:57,913
councilmember kettle was not a

5948
03:05:57,913 --> 03:05:58,514
member of that committee, we

5949
03:05:58,514 --> 03:06:00,015
weren't able to add his name as

5950
03:06:00,015 --> 03:06:01,850
a co-sponsor. But I do think

5951
03:06:01,850 --> 03:06:02,451
it's really important to

5952
03:06:02,451 --> 03:06:03,519
acknowledge your work and your

5953
03:06:03,519 --> 03:06:04,419
leadership there. And it was in

5954
03:06:04,419 --> 03:06:06,889
my notes earlier and I forgot to

5955
03:06:06,889 --> 03:06:07,556
and I apologize for that. So

5956
03:06:07,556 --> 03:06:11,059
thank you for that.

5957
03:06:11,059 --> 03:06:11,693
councilmember kettle. And with

5958
03:06:11,693 --> 03:06:13,829
that, I have to say, I am just

5959
03:06:13,829 --> 03:06:15,264
so excited to get to vote on

5960
03:06:15,264 --> 03:06:18,133
this legislation today. Our city

5961
03:06:18,133 --> 03:06:19,401
is going to be better because of

5962
03:06:19,401 --> 03:06:21,837
the work that this legislation

5963
03:06:21,837 --> 03:06:23,572
represents, the transparency

5964
03:06:23,572 --> 03:06:25,374
that this is going to bring to

5965
03:06:25,374 --> 03:06:27,309
seattle renters the improved

5966
03:06:27,309 --> 03:06:28,410
standard that this is going to

5967
03:06:28,410 --> 03:06:29,611
mean for folks when they are

5968
03:06:29,611 --> 03:06:31,413
shopping around for a place to

5969
03:06:31,413 --> 03:06:32,080
live. One of the things that was

5970
03:06:32,080 --> 03:06:33,115
really important to me during

5971
03:06:33,115 --> 03:06:34,917
this process was actually

5972
03:06:34,917 --> 03:06:36,318
hearing from some of our small

5973
03:06:36,318 --> 03:06:38,253
housing providers who talked

5974
03:06:38,253 --> 03:06:38,921
about how this is going to make

5975
03:06:38,921 --> 03:06:41,623
it easier for them to compete on

5976
03:06:41,623 --> 03:06:43,859
the market because of the

5977
03:06:43,859 --> 03:06:44,459
transparency in this bill. So

5978
03:06:44,459 --> 03:06:47,362
renters are going to be able to

5979
03:06:47,362 --> 03:06:48,997
look and understand where one

5980
03:06:48,997 --> 03:06:49,631
unit has and what another unit

5981
03:06:49,631 --> 03:06:50,299
has, and make an informed

5982
03:06:50,299 --> 03:06:51,667
decision, and that's good for

5983
03:06:51,667 --> 03:06:52,768
that renter and that's good for

5984
03:06:52,768 --> 03:06:54,536
that provider who's already

5985
03:06:54,536 --> 03:06:56,104
offering that transparency. And

5986
03:06:56,104 --> 03:06:57,973
for that provider who doesn't

5987
03:06:57,973 --> 03:06:59,841
already have junk fees attached.

5988
03:06:59,841 --> 03:07:00,909
so I think the fairness that

5989
03:07:00,909 --> 03:07:03,245
we're talking about in this

5990
03:07:03,245 --> 03:07:04,446
bill extends to our residents

5991
03:07:04,446 --> 03:07:05,814
who are renters, as well as our

5992
03:07:05,814 --> 03:07:07,783
residents who are housing

5993
03:07:07,783 --> 03:07:08,450
providers. From my vantage

5994
03:07:08,450 --> 03:07:11,520
point, this is one of several

5995
03:07:11,520 --> 03:07:12,788
pieces of legislation that this

5996
03:07:12,788 --> 03:07:13,422
council has worked on that are

5997
03:07:13,422 --> 03:07:15,524
going to make improvements to

5998
03:07:15,524 --> 03:07:16,158
consumer protections across the

5999
03:07:16,158 --> 03:07:17,793
board. So I was really proud a

6000
03:07:17,793 --> 03:07:19,227
few weeks ago when we passed,

6001
03:07:19,227 --> 03:07:20,896
our homeowner do not solicit

6002
03:07:20,896 --> 03:07:22,731
bill that's going to provide

6003
03:07:22,731 --> 03:07:24,366
additional protections for

6004
03:07:24,366 --> 03:07:25,434
homeowners and really proud to

6005
03:07:25,434 --> 03:07:26,235
build on that with this bill

6006
03:07:26,235 --> 03:07:28,537
that is going to provide

6007
03:07:28,537 --> 03:07:29,104
additional protections and

6008
03:07:29,104 --> 03:07:29,905
transparency to renters. So,

6009
03:07:29,905 --> 03:07:31,540
again, want to express my

6010
03:07:31,540 --> 03:07:32,975
gratitude to mayor wilson and

6011
03:07:32,975 --> 03:07:34,776
her team for their work on this.

6012
03:07:34,776 --> 03:07:36,245
and, colleagues, I ask for your

6013
03:07:36,245 --> 03:07:36,511
support.

6014
03:07:36,511 --> 03:07:37,579
-- thank you. Thank you.

6015
03:07:37,579 --> 03:07:39,581
councilmember foster will the

6016
03:07:39,581 --> 03:07:40,749
clerk please call the roll on

6017
03:07:40,749 --> 03:07:44,319
the passage of the bill, as

6018
03:07:44,319 --> 03:07:44,586
amended?

6019
03:07:44,586 --> 03:07:49,358
-- councilmember foster yes.

6020
03:07:49,358 --> 03:07:49,925
-- councilmember juarez.

6021
03:07:49,925 --> 03:07:51,260
councilmember kettle.

6022
03:07:51,260 --> 03:07:51,526
-- aye.

6023
03:07:51,526 --> 03:07:53,462
-- councilmember lin.

6024
03:07:53,462 --> 03:07:53,695
-- yes.

6025
03:07:53,695 --> 03:07:55,564
-- councilmember rinck.

6026
03:07:55,564 --> 03:07:55,797
-- yes.

6027
03:07:55,797 --> 03:07:58,433
-- councilmember rivera.

6028
03:07:58,433 --> 03:07:58,734
-- present.

6029
03:07:58,734 --> 03:07:59,234
-- councilmember saka.

6030
03:07:59,234 --> 03:08:02,104
-- aye.

6031
03:08:02,104 --> 03:08:03,005
-- councilmember strauss.

6032
03:08:03,005 --> 03:08:04,439
council president.

6033
03:08:04,439 --> 03:08:04,806
hollingsworth.

6034
03:08:04,806 --> 03:08:05,040
-- yes.

6035
03:08:05,040 --> 03:08:06,441
-- eight in favor. None opposed

6036
03:08:06,441 --> 03:08:07,309
one disqualified.

6037
03:08:07,309 --> 03:08:08,744
-- the bill passes, as amended,

6038
03:08:08,744 --> 03:08:09,645
and the chair will sign it. Will

6039
03:08:09,645 --> 03:08:10,779
the clerk please affix my

6040
03:08:10,779 --> 03:08:12,748
signature to the legislation on

6041
03:08:12,748 --> 03:08:14,816
my behalf? Congratulations,

6042
03:08:14,816 --> 03:08:15,150
councilmember

6043
03:08:15,150 --> 03:08:15,484
-- [applause]

6044
03:08:15,484 --> 03:08:17,152
-- foster

6045
03:08:17,152 --> 03:08:23,859
-- [applause]

6046
03:08:23,859 --> 03:08:25,927
-- all right.

6047
03:08:25,927 --> 03:08:26,261
-- [applause]

6048
03:08:26,261 --> 03:08:28,897
-- now we will will the clerk,

6049
03:08:28,897 --> 03:08:30,732
please? That was only item

6050
03:08:30,732 --> 03:08:30,966
number

6051
03:08:30,966 --> 03:08:31,299
-- [laughter]

6052
03:08:31,299 --> 03:08:31,533
-- one.

6053
03:08:31,533 --> 03:08:31,867
-- [laughter]

6054
03:08:31,867 --> 03:08:32,734
-- will the clerk please just

6055
03:08:32,734 --> 03:08:34,770
want to say so. Now, will the

6056
03:08:34,770 --> 03:08:36,705
clerk please read item number

6057
03:08:36,705 --> 03:08:37,639
two into the record?

6058
03:08:37,639 --> 03:08:40,075
-- the report of the financing

6059
03:08:40,075 --> 03:08:40,709
of communities and tribal

6060
03:08:40,709 --> 03:08:41,309
governments committee agenda

6061
03:08:41,309 --> 03:08:43,145
item two. Council bills 121252.

6062
03:08:43,145 --> 03:08:44,346
relating to acceptance of

6063
03:08:44,346 --> 03:08:46,348
funding from non city sources

6064
03:08:46,348 --> 03:08:47,349
authorizing the mayor or the

6065
03:08:47,349 --> 03:08:49,718
mayor designee to accept and

6066
03:08:49,718 --> 03:08:50,252
authorize expenditures of

6067
03:08:50,252 --> 03:08:51,787
specified grants, private

6068
03:08:51,787 --> 03:08:52,421
funding and subsidized loans,

6069
03:08:52,421 --> 03:08:54,456
and execute, deliver and perform

6070
03:08:54,456 --> 03:08:55,791
corresponding agreements. The

6071
03:08:55,791 --> 03:08:57,659
committee recommends the bill

6072
03:08:57,659 --> 03:08:57,859
pass.

6073
03:08:57,859 --> 03:08:58,760
-- councilmember strauss as our

6074
03:08:58,760 --> 03:08:59,661
first budget chair. You're

6075
03:08:59,661 --> 03:08:59,961
recognized.

6076
03:08:59,961 --> 03:09:02,097
-- thank you. I'm going to

6077
03:09:02,097 --> 03:09:02,731
address both this bill and the

6078
03:09:02,731 --> 03:09:04,032
next bill. So you don't have to

6079
03:09:04,032 --> 03:09:07,102
hear from me. Again. This is the

6080
03:09:07,102 --> 03:09:08,637
midyear supplemental bill and

6081
03:09:08,637 --> 03:09:09,938
the grant acceptance bill. I'm

6082
03:09:09,938 --> 03:09:11,807
glad that everyone's staying

6083
03:09:11,807 --> 03:09:12,341
for this really important

6084
03:09:12,341 --> 03:09:15,444
legislation jeff. Jeff, you're

6085
03:09:15,444 --> 03:09:16,845
not leaving yet. Thank you sir.

6086
03:09:16,845 --> 03:09:18,613
because right now we are

6087
03:09:18,613 --> 03:09:20,248
actually funding universal

6088
03:09:20,248 --> 03:09:22,284
school meals. We're funding the

6089
03:09:22,284 --> 03:09:24,486
money that councilmember rinck

6090
03:09:24,486 --> 03:09:27,255
has allocated to address the

6091
03:09:27,255 --> 03:09:28,790
transgender migration here to

6092
03:09:28,790 --> 03:09:29,925
seattle. We're doing a lot of

6093
03:09:29,925 --> 03:09:31,793
really important work in this

6094
03:09:31,793 --> 03:09:34,096
midyear supplemental, and

6095
03:09:34,096 --> 03:09:35,230
there's going to be a really

6096
03:09:35,230 --> 03:09:36,465
difficult budget ahead. So

6097
03:09:36,465 --> 03:09:39,568
please do not think that we are

6098
03:09:39,568 --> 03:09:41,737
in a paradise yet. We did have a

6099
03:09:41,737 --> 03:09:43,405
good revenue forecast that came

6100
03:09:43,405 --> 03:09:44,306
out last week. We had better

6101
03:09:44,306 --> 03:09:46,074
than expected, but it wasn't

6102
03:09:46,074 --> 03:09:47,743
good, I'll put it that way. So

6103
03:09:47,743 --> 03:09:49,945
we're not going backwards, but

6104
03:09:49,945 --> 03:09:52,914
we're not moving forwards as

6105
03:09:52,914 --> 03:09:54,850
quickly as we want. I do want to

6106
03:09:54,850 --> 03:09:57,652
really thank both councilmember

6107
03:09:57,652 --> 03:09:58,520
lin and councilmember kettle for

6108
03:09:58,520 --> 03:09:59,154
the amendments that they're

6109
03:09:59,154 --> 03:10:00,922
bringing forward in this bill

6110
03:10:00,922 --> 03:10:01,990
today. Councilmember lin will be

6111
03:10:01,990 --> 03:10:03,458
speaking about his amendment in

6112
03:10:03,458 --> 03:10:04,559
just a second. I'm going to

6113
03:10:04,559 --> 03:10:05,527
speak to it right now so that I

6114
03:10:05,527 --> 03:10:06,995
don't have to talk again. I

6115
03:10:06,995 --> 03:10:08,563
really think that it is

6116
03:10:08,563 --> 03:10:10,565
important that we are supporting

6117
03:10:10,565 --> 03:10:13,935
you in the work around the city,

6118
03:10:13,935 --> 03:10:16,304
around north beacon hill, around

6119
03:10:16,304 --> 03:10:16,972
rainier valley. I also what you

6120
03:10:16,972 --> 03:10:19,608
may not be seeing right now is

6121
03:10:19,608 --> 03:10:22,310
that there is another outreach

6122
03:10:22,310 --> 03:10:24,212
worker being hired for the city

6123
03:10:24,212 --> 03:10:25,714
specifically, and that came out

6124
03:10:25,714 --> 03:10:27,482
of our budget actions from last

6125
03:10:27,482 --> 03:10:31,052
year. And so just again, I want

6126
03:10:31,052 --> 03:10:32,053
to thank the community members

6127
03:10:32,053 --> 03:10:34,289
from the rainier valley that put

6128
03:10:34,289 --> 03:10:35,757
together the packet. I think the

6129
03:10:35,757 --> 03:10:37,359
trash pickers was their group.

6130
03:10:37,359 --> 03:10:39,427
like, I use that packet as an

6131
03:10:39,427 --> 03:10:40,195
example to others throughout the

6132
03:10:40,195 --> 03:10:42,030
city of how you need to

6133
03:10:42,030 --> 03:10:43,498
demonstrate the need in your

6134
03:10:43,498 --> 03:10:45,600
neighborhood. I also want to be

6135
03:10:45,600 --> 03:10:47,736
really clear that outreach

6136
03:10:47,736 --> 03:10:49,738
workers without shelter or

6137
03:10:49,738 --> 03:10:51,673
housing to get people into

6138
03:10:51,673 --> 03:10:54,543
cannot actually do their job.

6139
03:10:54,543 --> 03:10:55,944
outreach workers are also not

6140
03:10:55,944 --> 03:10:58,146
going. The the comment about the

6141
03:10:58,146 --> 03:11:01,316
swinging pipe or the police

6142
03:11:01,316 --> 03:11:02,083
interaction. Outreach workers

6143
03:11:02,083 --> 03:11:04,252
don't solve for that. And it's

6144
03:11:04,252 --> 03:11:06,488
also important that we support

6145
03:11:06,488 --> 03:11:08,824
you today to have three

6146
03:11:08,824 --> 03:11:09,458
dedicated outreach workers right

6147
03:11:09,458 --> 03:11:13,728
in that area. There's an

6148
03:11:13,728 --> 03:11:15,430
incredible need. There's amazing

6149
03:11:15,430 --> 03:11:16,031
community engagement. And so

6150
03:11:16,031 --> 03:11:17,632
thank you, councilmember lin,

6151
03:11:17,632 --> 03:11:18,600
for all of the adjustments that

6152
03:11:18,600 --> 03:11:19,734
you've made. Those are all of

6153
03:11:19,734 --> 03:11:21,269
my comments. I'm not going to

6154
03:11:21,269 --> 03:11:23,572
have last comments. I just am

6155
03:11:23,572 --> 03:11:25,207
really excited to vote on all of

6156
03:11:25,207 --> 03:11:26,374
the bills that are still on the

6157
03:11:26,374 --> 03:11:27,142
agenda at.

6158
03:11:27,142 --> 03:11:29,010
-- awesome. Thank you,

6159
03:11:29,010 --> 03:11:30,378
councilmember strauss. So right

6160
03:11:30,378 --> 03:11:32,647
now we have comments about the

6161
03:11:32,647 --> 03:11:33,281
acceptance funding. All right.

6162
03:11:33,281 --> 03:11:33,982
that's what we're voting on.

6163
03:11:33,982 --> 03:11:35,217
and then we're going to jump

6164
03:11:35,217 --> 03:11:37,219
into the supplemental budget.

6165
03:11:37,219 --> 03:11:37,819
councilmember strauss already

6166
03:11:37,819 --> 03:11:39,387
talked about that, so we'll

6167
03:11:39,387 --> 03:11:40,322
jump right into the amendments.

6168
03:11:40,322 --> 03:11:42,557
okay. Will the clerk please call

6169
03:11:42,557 --> 03:11:44,092
the roll on the passage of the

6170
03:11:44,092 --> 03:11:45,694
bill? And this is the acceptance

6171
03:11:45,694 --> 03:11:47,395
of funding from non city

6172
03:11:47,395 --> 03:11:51,533
sources. Council bill 121252.

6173
03:11:51,533 --> 03:11:56,404
-- councilmember foster.

6174
03:11:56,404 --> 03:11:56,638
-- yes.

6175
03:11:56,638 --> 03:11:57,172
-- councilmember juarez.

6176
03:11:57,172 --> 03:11:58,506
councilmember kettle.

6177
03:11:58,506 --> 03:11:58,807
-- aye.

6178
03:11:58,807 --> 03:12:00,709
-- councilmember lin.

6179
03:12:00,709 --> 03:12:01,042
-- yes.

6180
03:12:01,042 --> 03:12:02,711
-- councilmember rinck.

6181
03:12:02,711 --> 03:12:02,944
-- yes.

6182
03:12:02,944 --> 03:12:05,881
-- councilmember rivera. I

6183
03:12:05,881 --> 03:12:09,484
councilmember saka. Aye.

6184
03:12:09,484 --> 03:12:10,118
councilmember strauss. I council

6185
03:12:10,118 --> 03:12:11,119
president hollingsworth.

6186
03:12:11,119 --> 03:12:11,353
-- yes.

6187
03:12:11,353 --> 03:12:12,787
-- nine in favor none opposed.

6188
03:12:12,787 --> 03:12:14,089
-- awesome. Bill passes chair

6189
03:12:14,089 --> 03:12:15,523
will sign the clerk. Please

6190
03:12:15,523 --> 03:12:16,524
affix my signature to the

6191
03:12:16,524 --> 03:12:17,492
legislation on my behalf. Will

6192
03:12:17,492 --> 03:12:18,927
the clerk please read item

6193
03:12:18,927 --> 03:12:20,228
number three into the record?

6194
03:12:20,228 --> 03:12:22,631
-- agenda item three council

6195
03:12:22,631 --> 03:12:26,134
bills 121253. An ordinance

6196
03:12:26,134 --> 03:12:27,402
amending ordinance 127362, which

6197
03:12:27,402 --> 03:12:29,938
adopted the 2026 budget,

6198
03:12:29,938 --> 03:12:30,505
included 2026 through 2031

6199
03:12:30,505 --> 03:12:32,807
capital improvement program,

6200
03:12:32,807 --> 03:12:33,742
changing appropriations to

6201
03:12:33,742 --> 03:12:34,376
various departments and budget

6202
03:12:34,376 --> 03:12:35,310
control levels from various

6203
03:12:35,310 --> 03:12:36,011
funds in the budget. The

6204
03:12:36,011 --> 03:12:36,611
committee recommends the bill

6205
03:12:36,611 --> 03:12:38,680
pass, as amended.

6206
03:12:38,680 --> 03:12:39,581
-- councilmember strauss. You

6207
03:12:39,581 --> 03:12:40,382
already addressed it. Did you

6208
03:12:40,382 --> 03:12:41,349
have any comments regarding it?

6209
03:12:41,349 --> 03:12:43,184
awesome. We'll jump right into

6210
03:12:43,184 --> 03:12:45,787
amendments. Councilmember lin

6211
03:12:45,787 --> 03:12:47,222
you are recognized to move your

6212
03:12:47,222 --> 03:12:48,857
amendment.

6213
03:12:48,857 --> 03:12:49,524
-- I'd like to move amendment

6214
03:12:49,524 --> 03:12:50,558
aye version one to council bill

6215
03:12:50,558 --> 03:12:52,894
one, two, one, two, five three.

6216
03:12:52,894 --> 03:12:53,328
-- second, second.

6217
03:12:53,328 --> 03:12:54,429
-- moved and seconded to amend

6218
03:12:54,429 --> 03:12:55,664
the bill as presented on

6219
03:12:55,664 --> 03:12:56,798
amendment aye. Councilmember

6220
03:12:56,798 --> 03:12:58,800
lin. You are recognized.

6221
03:12:58,800 --> 03:13:00,936
-- thank you so much,

6222
03:13:00,936 --> 03:13:04,406
colleagues. This amendment would

6223
03:13:04,406 --> 03:13:06,207
add $500,000 of general fund to

6224
03:13:06,207 --> 03:13:07,876
the human service department for

6225
03:13:07,876 --> 03:13:10,745
investments in highly impacted

6226
03:13:10,745 --> 03:13:12,647
areas, including north beacon

6227
03:13:12,647 --> 03:13:13,081
hill, north rainier

6228
03:13:13,081 --> 03:13:16,284
neighborhoods. It would fund two

6229
03:13:16,284 --> 03:13:18,353
dedicated neighborhood outreach

6230
03:13:18,353 --> 03:13:20,388
positions. You know, when I took

6231
03:13:20,388 --> 03:13:25,527
came into office in november. It

6232
03:13:25,527 --> 03:13:27,062
when. So at the end of last

6233
03:13:27,062 --> 03:13:28,830
year's budget, it really

6234
03:13:28,830 --> 03:13:30,832
started to get to crisis level

6235
03:13:30,832 --> 03:13:33,068
and north beacon hill and north

6236
03:13:33,068 --> 03:13:38,773
rainier and, you know, I

6237
03:13:38,773 --> 03:13:39,407
appreciate that this typically

6238
03:13:39,407 --> 03:13:41,543
would be something that we would

6239
03:13:41,543 --> 03:13:44,245
discuss at full budget. And I

6240
03:13:44,245 --> 03:13:44,846
know that the full budget is

6241
03:13:44,846 --> 03:13:47,349
going to be a hard discussion.

6242
03:13:47,349 --> 03:13:50,819
and but the need for bringing it

6243
03:13:50,819 --> 03:13:52,053
now in the supplemental budget

6244
03:13:52,053 --> 03:13:54,089
is just because these

6245
03:13:54,089 --> 03:13:56,358
communities can't wait any

6246
03:13:56,358 --> 03:13:58,760
longer. And we've worked very

6247
03:13:58,760 --> 03:14:00,395
closely with with hsd, with the

6248
03:14:00,395 --> 03:14:03,398
executive department, with the

6249
03:14:03,398 --> 03:14:06,735
likely recipient of these funds,

6250
03:14:06,735 --> 03:14:07,335
who is ready to hire promptly

6251
03:14:07,335 --> 03:14:09,204
and get support to these

6252
03:14:09,204 --> 03:14:12,407
communities. I also, again, know

6253
03:14:12,407 --> 03:14:14,643
that, again, that that we are

6254
03:14:14,643 --> 03:14:17,278
facing a difficult budget

6255
03:14:17,278 --> 03:14:21,049
choices and and that all of our

6256
03:14:21,049 --> 03:14:22,384
districts have needs. And so I

6257
03:14:22,384 --> 03:14:24,185
do not have I understand that

6258
03:14:24,185 --> 03:14:26,521
others will be bringing forward

6259
03:14:26,521 --> 03:14:28,757
their district priorities as

6260
03:14:28,757 --> 03:14:30,158
part of the full budget. Our

6261
03:14:30,158 --> 03:14:32,193
list is is pretty short. And

6262
03:14:32,193 --> 03:14:32,894
this was a top priority for us.

6263
03:14:32,894 --> 03:14:34,596
again, given the urgent needs.

6264
03:14:34,596 --> 03:14:36,765
this and youth gun violence down

6265
03:14:36,765 --> 03:14:38,800
in rainier beach. So I just want

6266
03:14:38,800 --> 03:14:40,769
to make that clear that I

6267
03:14:40,769 --> 03:14:43,705
recognize that we are

6268
03:14:43,705 --> 03:14:46,708
essentially preloading one of

6269
03:14:46,708 --> 03:14:48,209
our my district's top

6270
03:14:48,209 --> 03:14:50,645
priorities. And so I just want

6271
03:14:50,645 --> 03:14:52,080
to recognize that would be happy

6272
03:14:52,080 --> 03:14:53,515
to answer any questions or

6273
03:14:53,515 --> 03:14:54,849
concerns if folks have any.

6274
03:14:54,849 --> 03:14:56,651
otherwise, I would greatly

6275
03:14:56,651 --> 03:14:58,053
appreciate your support.

6276
03:14:58,053 --> 03:14:59,187
-- awesome. Thank you.

6277
03:14:59,187 --> 03:15:01,823
councilmember lin, are there any

6278
03:15:01,823 --> 03:15:03,792
comments regarding councilmember

6279
03:15:03,792 --> 03:15:04,359
rivera then? Councilmember

6280
03:15:04,359 --> 03:15:06,561
foster.

6281
03:15:06,561 --> 03:15:07,195
-- thank you, council president

6282
03:15:07,195 --> 03:15:09,364
thank you. Councilmember lin for

6283
03:15:09,364 --> 03:15:11,633
your words. And you know, I

6284
03:15:11,633 --> 03:15:13,101
understand the needs. I will say

6285
03:15:13,101 --> 03:15:16,237
that at committee, I'm going to

6286
03:15:16,237 --> 03:15:17,739
say the same thing now that I

6287
03:15:17,739 --> 03:15:19,808
said at committee, which is the

6288
03:15:19,808 --> 03:15:22,877
purpose of the annual midyear

6289
03:15:22,877 --> 03:15:24,412
supplemental budget, is to make

6290
03:15:24,412 --> 03:15:26,581
necessary adjustments to the

6291
03:15:26,581 --> 03:15:29,250
current year's budget due to

6292
03:15:29,250 --> 03:15:29,884
grant acceptances or costs that,

6293
03:15:29,884 --> 03:15:33,688
per the city's rcw quote,

6294
03:15:33,688 --> 03:15:34,255
cannot reasonably have been

6295
03:15:34,255 --> 03:15:35,557
foreseen. And the amendments

6296
03:15:35,557 --> 03:15:37,058
adding money then at this point

6297
03:15:37,058 --> 03:15:39,894
is really just cutting the line

6298
03:15:39,894 --> 03:15:41,796
at the budget process. That's

6299
03:15:41,796 --> 03:15:43,531
going to start here in a month.

6300
03:15:43,531 --> 03:15:48,703
and we've all already have been

6301
03:15:48,703 --> 03:15:49,170
approached by various

6302
03:15:49,170 --> 03:15:51,639
organizations and constituents

6303
03:15:51,639 --> 03:15:55,110
asking for us to make sure we

6304
03:15:55,110 --> 03:15:58,213
don't cut their particular item

6305
03:15:58,213 --> 03:15:59,614
that they that they are focused

6306
03:15:59,614 --> 03:16:02,383
on in the fall and the budget

6307
03:16:02,383 --> 03:16:03,518
that we're going to get in a

6308
03:16:03,518 --> 03:16:04,519
month. And so I feel like at

6309
03:16:04,519 --> 03:16:08,623
this point, it really is putting

6310
03:16:08,623 --> 03:16:10,558
the cart before the horse and

6311
03:16:10,558 --> 03:16:12,560
not related to the merits of any

6312
03:16:12,560 --> 03:16:15,597
of these ads that were done both

6313
03:16:15,597 --> 03:16:16,865
at committee level. And now I'm

6314
03:16:16,865 --> 03:16:18,867
not going to be supporting these

6315
03:16:18,867 --> 03:16:20,301
amendments because I feel like

6316
03:16:20,301 --> 03:16:23,571
these are things that should be

6317
03:16:23,571 --> 03:16:24,372
addressed in a month when we

6318
03:16:24,372 --> 03:16:25,573
have the budget and we can

6319
03:16:25,573 --> 03:16:26,541
figure out what things we're

6320
03:16:26,541 --> 03:16:27,642
going to, the mayor's going to

6321
03:16:27,642 --> 03:16:30,044
have to make some cuts. So how

6322
03:16:30,044 --> 03:16:31,045
are we we going to be able to

6323
03:16:31,045 --> 03:16:33,748
fund these things ongoing? And

6324
03:16:33,748 --> 03:16:34,482
the last thing I'll say is that

6325
03:16:34,482 --> 03:16:37,318
any money that is not spent,

6326
03:16:37,318 --> 03:16:38,987
that is considered, quote

6327
03:16:38,987 --> 03:16:39,621
unquote, underspend by the end

6328
03:16:39,621 --> 03:16:42,157
of the year is money that then

6329
03:16:42,157 --> 03:16:45,059
is used to cover that budget

6330
03:16:45,059 --> 03:16:46,661
deficit, which at this point in

6331
03:16:46,661 --> 03:16:49,964
time, even given friday's

6332
03:16:49,964 --> 03:16:53,168
presentation on the forecast, is

6333
03:16:53,168 --> 03:16:56,738
still expected to be about 275

6334
03:16:56,738 --> 03:16:58,106
million over the biennium. So

6335
03:16:58,106 --> 03:16:59,374
for those reasons, I won't be

6336
03:16:59,374 --> 03:17:01,876
supporting these particular ads

6337
03:17:01,876 --> 03:17:04,379
at this point, but I do

6338
03:17:04,379 --> 03:17:07,048
appreciate where you're coming

6339
03:17:07,048 --> 03:17:08,216
from. Councilmember lin, and I

6340
03:17:08,216 --> 03:17:10,251
look forward to the fall's

6341
03:17:10,251 --> 03:17:10,852
budget discussion to see how

6342
03:17:10,852 --> 03:17:13,755
we're going to support your

6343
03:17:13,755 --> 03:17:15,156
community and the communities

6344
03:17:15,156 --> 03:17:17,292
across the city with these

6345
03:17:17,292 --> 03:17:18,927
challenges. Thank you.

6346
03:17:18,927 --> 03:17:19,494
-- thank you, councilmember

6347
03:17:19,494 --> 03:17:21,663
rivera councilmember foster.

6348
03:17:21,663 --> 03:17:22,497
-- I thank you, council

6349
03:17:22,497 --> 03:17:24,299
president. I will be brief. I

6350
03:17:24,299 --> 03:17:26,234
just wanted to express my

6351
03:17:26,234 --> 03:17:27,769
gratitude to councilmember lin

6352
03:17:27,769 --> 03:17:29,971
for his leadership on this work.

6353
03:17:29,971 --> 03:17:30,738
and councilmember lin, you

6354
03:17:30,738 --> 03:17:32,640
already mentioned earlier this

6355
03:17:32,640 --> 03:17:34,909
year, we had many folks come in

6356
03:17:34,909 --> 03:17:36,711
from the north rainier

6357
03:17:36,711 --> 03:17:37,345
neighborhood and talk about the

6358
03:17:37,345 --> 03:17:38,546
needs in their community,

6359
03:17:38,546 --> 03:17:39,647
particularly around mount baker,

6360
03:17:39,647 --> 03:17:43,218
and it was a real privilege to

6361
03:17:43,218 --> 03:17:44,786
get to join you and several

6362
03:17:44,786 --> 03:17:45,687
community or one community

6363
03:17:45,687 --> 03:17:47,222
meeting in mount baker and one

6364
03:17:47,222 --> 03:17:48,389
community meeting and rainier

6365
03:17:48,389 --> 03:17:50,091
beach. And I just think your

6366
03:17:50,091 --> 03:17:52,560
leadership has been fantastic,

6367
03:17:52,560 --> 03:17:53,228
and I really want to express my

6368
03:17:53,228 --> 03:17:53,995
appreciation to you for bringing

6369
03:17:53,995 --> 03:17:54,729
this forward, and I look forward

6370
03:17:54,729 --> 03:17:56,397
to supporting it. Thank you.

6371
03:17:56,397 --> 03:17:58,032
-- thank you, councilmember

6372
03:17:58,032 --> 03:17:59,801
foster councilmember kettle.

6373
03:17:59,801 --> 03:18:00,768
-- thank you, council president.

6374
03:18:00,768 --> 03:18:03,571
I want to thank. Councilmember

6375
03:18:03,571 --> 03:18:05,206
lin for this amendment. In my

6376
03:18:05,206 --> 03:18:06,407
role as chair of public safety,

6377
03:18:06,407 --> 03:18:08,843
I deal with these public safety

6378
03:18:08,843 --> 03:18:10,345
challenges and the very ugly

6379
03:18:10,345 --> 03:18:12,547
challenges that we have in our

6380
03:18:12,547 --> 03:18:14,482
city day in and day out, day in

6381
03:18:14,482 --> 03:18:17,452
and day out, and so often in so

6382
03:18:17,452 --> 03:18:18,686
many places around the city.

6383
03:18:18,686 --> 03:18:21,823
they're very acute. I've done

6384
03:18:21,823 --> 03:18:24,292
two public safety walks with

6385
03:18:24,292 --> 03:18:26,461
councilmember lin in north

6386
03:18:26,461 --> 03:18:28,429
beacon hill, and it's a tragedy

6387
03:18:28,429 --> 03:18:30,798
in terms of what the community

6388
03:18:30,798 --> 03:18:32,300
needs to have to face. As I

6389
03:18:32,300 --> 03:18:33,835
said, related to little saigon

6390
03:18:33,835 --> 03:18:35,169
and north aurora in committee.

6391
03:18:35,169 --> 03:18:36,704
it's not right and it's not

6392
03:18:36,704 --> 03:18:41,609
acceptable so I respect the

6393
03:18:41,609 --> 03:18:45,680
point made regarding budget, but

6394
03:18:45,680 --> 03:18:47,015
the issue is it's acute and

6395
03:18:47,015 --> 03:18:48,916
it's acute. Now. So

6396
03:18:48,916 --> 03:18:50,485
councilmember lin, I do support

6397
03:18:50,485 --> 03:18:51,352
your amendment. Thank you.

6398
03:18:51,352 --> 03:18:52,954
-- thank you. Councilmember

6399
03:18:52,954 --> 03:18:54,489
kettle are there any other

6400
03:18:54,489 --> 03:18:56,257
comments regarding amendment

6401
03:18:56,257 --> 03:18:57,425
aye. Councilmember lin any

6402
03:18:57,425 --> 03:18:59,327
closing remarks before we call a

6403
03:18:59,327 --> 03:18:59,560
vote?

6404
03:18:59,560 --> 03:19:01,663
-- I just want to and I should

6405
03:19:01,663 --> 03:19:03,097
have said this in the opening

6406
03:19:03,097 --> 03:19:04,799
remarks. Just want to,

6407
03:19:04,799 --> 03:19:05,433
regardless of your support for

6408
03:19:05,433 --> 03:19:07,835
this amendment or not to

6409
03:19:07,835 --> 03:19:08,736
councilmember kettle just want

6410
03:19:08,736 --> 03:19:10,371
to say thank you so much for all

6411
03:19:10,371 --> 03:19:12,941
the attention you've been

6412
03:19:12,941 --> 03:19:15,143
providing to to district two in

6413
03:19:15,143 --> 03:19:16,678
particular, doing those safety

6414
03:19:16,678 --> 03:19:19,347
walks. And it means a lot. It

6415
03:19:19,347 --> 03:19:20,815
means a lot to the community to,

6416
03:19:20,815 --> 03:19:21,783
to have you showing up there. So

6417
03:19:21,783 --> 03:19:23,518
I just want to put that on the

6418
03:19:23,518 --> 03:19:24,652
record. Thank you.

6419
03:19:24,652 --> 03:19:28,022
-- awesome. Thank you.

6420
03:19:28,022 --> 03:19:29,290
councilmember lin. All right.

6421
03:19:29,290 --> 03:19:30,692
well, councilmember rivera.

6422
03:19:30,692 --> 03:19:32,760
-- thank you. Cp, I just want to

6423
03:19:32,760 --> 03:19:34,529
say again, you know, this is my

6424
03:19:34,529 --> 03:19:36,130
position is not on the merits of

6425
03:19:36,130 --> 03:19:39,067
these things. And I don't the

6426
03:19:39,067 --> 03:19:41,102
characterization that somehow we

6427
03:19:41,102 --> 03:19:43,971
need public safety now. And so

6428
03:19:43,971 --> 03:19:47,842
without passage of this now

6429
03:19:47,842 --> 03:19:50,345
there were I dispute the

6430
03:19:50,345 --> 03:19:51,746
characterization. Respectfully.

6431
03:19:51,746 --> 03:19:54,082
councilmember kettle, we're all

6432
03:19:54,082 --> 03:19:54,649
dealing with public safety

6433
03:19:54,649 --> 03:19:56,684
issues across the city. There's

6434
03:19:56,684 --> 03:19:58,186
a lot going on in d5, for

6435
03:19:58,186 --> 03:20:00,121
instance, and other areas of the

6436
03:20:00,121 --> 03:20:03,224
city. So I'm well aware of all

6437
03:20:03,224 --> 03:20:04,959
the issues, and I myself am

6438
03:20:04,959 --> 03:20:06,494
dealing with some issues in the

6439
03:20:06,494 --> 03:20:08,696
d4. So again, it's not on the

6440
03:20:08,696 --> 03:20:10,098
merits of the case. I of the of

6441
03:20:10,098 --> 03:20:14,369
of the ad, but we're having a

6442
03:20:14,369 --> 03:20:15,169
budget in a month here and we're

6443
03:20:15,169 --> 03:20:16,938
going to have to all the things

6444
03:20:16,938 --> 03:20:19,974
we're doing now, and even the

6445
03:20:19,974 --> 03:20:22,844
things we added in this, this

6446
03:20:22,844 --> 03:20:24,112
today's meeting, we're going to

6447
03:20:24,112 --> 03:20:25,146
have to grapple with all that in

6448
03:20:25,146 --> 03:20:26,714
the fall. And that is why I'm

6449
03:20:26,714 --> 03:20:28,416
going to be voting no on the

6450
03:20:28,416 --> 03:20:31,819
amendment. But I did vote to

6451
03:20:31,819 --> 03:20:33,054
pass the mid year in general.

6452
03:20:33,054 --> 03:20:36,324
but I just want us to remind us

6453
03:20:36,324 --> 03:20:39,761
all that mid year isn't

6454
03:20:39,761 --> 03:20:41,629
traditionally used to add new

6455
03:20:41,629 --> 03:20:43,197
things, but to take care of the

6456
03:20:43,197 --> 03:20:46,234
budget that is today. And then

6457
03:20:46,234 --> 03:20:48,269
we use the budget process to do

6458
03:20:48,269 --> 03:20:48,903
the next year's budget. Thank

6459
03:20:48,903 --> 03:20:51,005
you. Council president.

6460
03:20:51,005 --> 03:20:52,707
-- thank you. Councilmember

6461
03:20:52,707 --> 03:20:53,674
rivera. Okay, will the clerk

6462
03:20:53,674 --> 03:20:57,445
please call the roll on

6463
03:20:57,445 --> 03:20:57,779
amendment a.

6464
03:20:57,779 --> 03:21:02,116
-- councilmember foster yes.

6465
03:21:02,116 --> 03:21:04,185
-- councilmember juarez.

6466
03:21:04,185 --> 03:21:04,786
-- councilmember kettle a.

6467
03:21:04,786 --> 03:21:06,487
councilmember lin yes.

6468
03:21:06,487 --> 03:21:08,756
-- councilmember rinck.

6469
03:21:08,756 --> 03:21:08,990
-- yes.

6470
03:21:08,990 --> 03:21:11,492
-- councilmember rivera.

6471
03:21:11,492 --> 03:21:11,826
-- no.

6472
03:21:11,826 --> 03:21:16,564
-- councilmember saka. Aye.

6473
03:21:16,564 --> 03:21:17,065
councilmember strauss.

6474
03:21:17,065 --> 03:21:17,298
-- aye.

6475
03:21:17,298 --> 03:21:17,765
-- council president

6476
03:21:17,765 --> 03:21:18,966
hollingsworth eight in favor one

6477
03:21:18,966 --> 03:21:19,233
opposed.

6478
03:21:19,233 --> 03:21:20,968
-- motion carries. Amendment a

6479
03:21:20,968 --> 03:21:24,872
is adopted. Councilmember kettle

6480
03:21:24,872 --> 03:21:28,376
will you. I'm going to you for

6481
03:21:28,376 --> 03:21:28,709
amendment b.

6482
03:21:28,709 --> 03:21:30,645
-- thank you, council president

6483
03:21:30,645 --> 03:21:31,546
I first, I would like to request

6484
03:21:31,546 --> 03:21:34,749
that the rules be suspended to

6485
03:21:34,749 --> 03:21:37,185
consider version two of

6486
03:21:37,185 --> 03:21:38,586
amendment b second.

6487
03:21:38,586 --> 03:21:41,255
-- awesome. It's been moved in

6488
03:21:41,255 --> 03:21:41,889
second and then I actually have

6489
03:21:41,889 --> 03:21:43,558
to see if there's objection.

6490
03:21:43,558 --> 03:21:45,159
right. So if there's no

6491
03:21:45,159 --> 03:21:46,327
objection the rules will be

6492
03:21:46,327 --> 03:21:49,764
suspended. Thank you for that.

6493
03:21:49,764 --> 03:21:50,398
second councilmember strauss to

6494
03:21:50,398 --> 03:21:52,700
allow consideration of amendment

6495
03:21:52,700 --> 03:21:54,969
b version two. Is there any

6496
03:21:54,969 --> 03:21:56,571
objection. Okay. Hearing no

6497
03:21:56,571 --> 03:21:57,805
objection, the rules are

6498
03:21:57,805 --> 03:21:58,372
suspended and councilmember

6499
03:21:58,372 --> 03:22:00,575
kettle is recognized to move his

6500
03:22:00,575 --> 03:22:01,576
amendment.

6501
03:22:01,576 --> 03:22:03,177
-- thank you. Council president,

6502
03:22:03,177 --> 03:22:04,912
I move to amend council bill

6503
03:22:04,912 --> 03:22:06,447
121253 as presented on amendment

6504
03:22:06,447 --> 03:22:07,582
b, version two.

6505
03:22:07,582 --> 03:22:07,949
-- second.

6506
03:22:07,949 --> 03:22:09,517
-- it's been moved and seconded

6507
03:22:09,517 --> 03:22:10,585
to amend bill as presented on

6508
03:22:10,585 --> 03:22:12,286
amendment b, version two.

6509
03:22:12,286 --> 03:22:13,488
councilmember kettle you

6510
03:22:13,488 --> 03:22:14,088
recognize in order to address

6511
03:22:14,088 --> 03:22:14,255
it.

6512
03:22:14,255 --> 03:22:16,791
-- thank you, council president.

6513
03:22:16,791 --> 03:22:18,259
we've already heard about north

6514
03:22:18,259 --> 03:22:20,161
beacon hill and little saigon,

6515
03:22:20,161 --> 03:22:25,333
but the c. More broadly has been

6516
03:22:25,333 --> 03:22:25,967
impacted and has been benefiting

6517
03:22:25,967 --> 03:22:26,634
from the work that we've done

6518
03:22:26,634 --> 03:22:28,636
with our technology program and

6519
03:22:28,636 --> 03:22:30,471
also the broader strategic

6520
03:22:30,471 --> 03:22:31,873
framework plan that we have. And

6521
03:22:31,873 --> 03:22:34,008
this also includes other areas

6522
03:22:34,008 --> 03:22:37,178
to include downtown and belltown

6523
03:22:37,178 --> 03:22:38,713
and north aurora. And the need

6524
03:22:38,713 --> 03:22:40,081
is greater than than we have in

6525
03:22:40,081 --> 03:22:42,450
the program. And it's driven by

6526
03:22:42,450 --> 03:22:44,452
demonstrated crime data. This is

6527
03:22:44,452 --> 03:22:45,052
underwritten by demonstrated

6528
03:22:45,052 --> 03:22:47,989
crime data. And so today, we're

6529
03:22:47,989 --> 03:22:48,523
facing many public safety

6530
03:22:48,523 --> 03:22:50,024
challenges, and we need action

6531
03:22:50,024 --> 03:22:52,293
to create a safer seattle. You

6532
03:22:52,293 --> 03:22:54,929
know, for those that started in

6533
03:22:54,929 --> 03:22:56,597
january 24th, we're well into

6534
03:22:56,597 --> 03:22:57,465
our third year. And the only

6535
03:22:57,465 --> 03:22:59,166
plan as it relates to public

6536
03:22:59,166 --> 03:23:00,468
safety that one could argue is

6537
03:23:00,468 --> 03:23:02,136
our own strategic framework plan

6538
03:23:02,136 --> 03:23:03,704
for a safer seattle the council

6539
03:23:03,704 --> 03:23:06,574
needs to continue to lead on our

6540
03:23:06,574 --> 03:23:09,176
current program whole and for

6541
03:23:09,176 --> 03:23:14,682
our proviso, we need to lead and

6542
03:23:14,682 --> 03:23:15,816
engage with the executive. But

6543
03:23:15,816 --> 03:23:17,552
we have to have this program

6544
03:23:17,552 --> 03:23:19,820
whole in of itself. And also as

6545
03:23:19,820 --> 03:23:22,657
it relates to our proviso, it's

6546
03:23:22,657 --> 03:23:23,591
important to keep our proviso

6547
03:23:23,591 --> 03:23:24,959
whole. And so for those reasons,

6548
03:23:24,959 --> 03:23:26,594
colleagues, I ask for your

6549
03:23:26,594 --> 03:23:27,495
support for this amendment.

6550
03:23:27,495 --> 03:23:29,797
amendment b

6551
03:23:29,797 --> 03:23:31,399
-- are there any. Thank you,

6552
03:23:31,399 --> 03:23:34,835
councilmember kettle are there

6553
03:23:34,835 --> 03:23:35,469
any comments regarding amendment

6554
03:23:35,469 --> 03:23:41,342
b, version two? Councilmember

6555
03:23:41,342 --> 03:23:41,976
rinck followed by councilmember

6556
03:23:41,976 --> 03:23:43,778
rivera and then councilmember

6557
03:23:43,778 --> 03:23:45,379
foster.

6558
03:23:45,379 --> 03:23:46,013
-- thank you, council president.

6559
03:23:46,013 --> 03:23:47,381
I will be brief and just note,

6560
03:23:47,381 --> 03:23:49,383
while I appreciate the revised

6561
03:23:49,383 --> 03:23:50,218
amendment before us,

6562
03:23:50,218 --> 03:23:53,421
particularly with the language

6563
03:23:53,421 --> 03:23:54,722
pertaining to limitations for

6564
03:23:54,722 --> 03:23:56,557
cctv installation, operation and

6565
03:23:56,557 --> 03:23:57,725
expansion within the capitol

6566
03:23:57,725 --> 03:24:00,828
hill neighborhood, I will be

6567
03:24:00,828 --> 03:24:01,395
voting no on this amendment

6568
03:24:01,395 --> 03:24:02,830
today, primarily because I

6569
03:24:02,830 --> 03:24:04,565
believe that is consistent with

6570
03:24:04,565 --> 03:24:05,566
prior positions I have taken

6571
03:24:05,566 --> 03:24:08,970
against funding cctv technology.

6572
03:24:08,970 --> 03:24:09,270
thank you.

6573
03:24:09,270 --> 03:24:10,571
-- thank you. Councilmember

6574
03:24:10,571 --> 03:24:12,239
rinck councilmember rivera.

6575
03:24:12,239 --> 03:24:15,142
-- thank you, council president,

6576
03:24:15,142 --> 03:24:16,210
and I appreciate you trying to

6577
03:24:16,210 --> 03:24:18,913
add this back in. Councilmember

6578
03:24:18,913 --> 03:24:20,681
kettle. We did take some funds

6579
03:24:20,681 --> 03:24:24,385
to be able to help support our

6580
03:24:24,385 --> 03:24:25,486
colleague council president up

6581
03:24:25,486 --> 03:24:27,622
on capitol hill. I think that

6582
03:24:27,622 --> 03:24:31,759
this amendment just again, it

6583
03:24:31,759 --> 03:24:32,693
adds more into the mid year. And

6584
03:24:32,693 --> 03:24:34,562
and I think we need to be taking

6585
03:24:34,562 --> 03:24:36,030
this up during the budget

6586
03:24:36,030 --> 03:24:38,866
process. I do support cctv. And

6587
03:24:38,866 --> 03:24:42,436
so I expect that we're going to

6588
03:24:42,436 --> 03:24:43,938
be able to continue that program

6589
03:24:43,938 --> 03:24:44,972
with the upcoming budget. But

6590
03:24:44,972 --> 03:24:47,708
I'm going to be voting no on

6591
03:24:47,708 --> 03:24:49,210
today's amendment for those

6592
03:24:49,210 --> 03:24:49,477
reasons.

6593
03:24:49,477 --> 03:24:50,811
-- thank you.

6594
03:24:50,811 --> 03:24:51,379
-- thank you, councilmember

6595
03:24:51,379 --> 03:24:52,980
rivera councilmember foster.

6596
03:24:52,980 --> 03:24:54,348
-- thank you so much. Council

6597
03:24:54,348 --> 03:24:55,583
president. I will be voting no

6598
03:24:55,583 --> 03:24:57,852
on this amendment. I believe

6599
03:24:57,852 --> 03:24:59,754
that the use of these dollars

6600
03:24:59,754 --> 03:25:03,557
for the purposes as they were

6601
03:25:03,557 --> 03:25:06,027
allocated in the committee, to

6602
03:25:06,027 --> 03:25:07,061
ensure that we have timely

6603
03:25:07,061 --> 03:25:08,796
responsiveness and folks on the

6604
03:25:08,796 --> 03:25:09,463
ground in the neighborhood is a

6605
03:25:09,463 --> 03:25:10,531
strong use of the funds, and I

6606
03:25:10,531 --> 03:25:12,299
look forward to seeing the

6607
03:25:12,299 --> 03:25:14,068
impact of that amendment. Thank

6608
03:25:14,068 --> 03:25:14,402
you so much.

6609
03:25:14,402 --> 03:25:15,036
-- thank you. Councilmember

6610
03:25:15,036 --> 03:25:18,839
foster. So I'll are there any

6611
03:25:18,839 --> 03:25:20,274
more comments before I speak?

6612
03:25:20,274 --> 03:25:23,010
no. Okay. So just two things.

6613
03:25:23,010 --> 03:25:25,379
and I and I want to thank. Oh,

6614
03:25:25,379 --> 03:25:30,017
there's more people. Okay.

6615
03:25:30,017 --> 03:25:30,451
councilmember lin.

6616
03:25:30,451 --> 03:25:34,588
-- I'm so sorry. Council

6617
03:25:34,588 --> 03:25:36,290
president. Councilmember kettle.

6618
03:25:36,290 --> 03:25:38,726
I appreciate your amendment. I

6619
03:25:38,726 --> 03:25:40,728
don't think I can be supporting

6620
03:25:40,728 --> 03:25:43,364
today, although I will, you

6621
03:25:43,364 --> 03:25:48,135
know, the cctv program. I'm

6622
03:25:48,135 --> 03:25:49,370
very excited to see the audit

6623
03:25:49,370 --> 03:25:51,205
reports that will be coming

6624
03:25:51,205 --> 03:25:53,174
hopefully soon, because I think

6625
03:25:53,174 --> 03:25:54,342
that that will help our

6626
03:25:54,342 --> 03:25:55,976
community. You know, we have a

6627
03:25:55,976 --> 03:25:58,512
very divided discussion about

6628
03:25:58,512 --> 03:25:59,580
sort of the benefits, the, the

6629
03:25:59,580 --> 03:26:02,817
costs, the, the, you know, the

6630
03:26:02,817 --> 03:26:04,652
potential risks of our cctv

6631
03:26:04,652 --> 03:26:07,154
program. And I'm hoping that

6632
03:26:07,154 --> 03:26:08,923
those reports will help us kind

6633
03:26:08,923 --> 03:26:11,826
of make decisions based on sort

6634
03:26:11,826 --> 03:26:13,728
of what, you know, what we can

6635
03:26:13,728 --> 03:26:15,196
learn from the data on those

6636
03:26:15,196 --> 03:26:19,200
reports. You know, I do my

6637
03:26:19,200 --> 03:26:19,867
community district two is pretty

6638
03:26:19,867 --> 03:26:20,835
divided on this issue. We have a

6639
03:26:20,835 --> 03:26:24,805
lot of folks who were calling

6640
03:26:24,805 --> 03:26:25,740
for cameras after the the

6641
03:26:25,740 --> 03:26:27,041
shootings of the two rainier

6642
03:26:27,041 --> 03:26:28,843
beach high school students, you

6643
03:26:28,843 --> 03:26:31,178
know, there are certainly folks

6644
03:26:31,178 --> 03:26:32,446
who who would like to see that

6645
03:26:32,446 --> 03:26:34,582
we have cameras in the city.

6646
03:26:34,582 --> 03:26:36,083
there are some folks who would

6647
03:26:36,083 --> 03:26:38,252
like to see more and then

6648
03:26:38,252 --> 03:26:39,653
certainly have heard from the

6649
03:26:39,653 --> 03:26:42,423
other side as well. And so while

6650
03:26:42,423 --> 03:26:43,691
I'm I'm not going to support

6651
03:26:43,691 --> 03:26:50,531
this today, I do understand your

6652
03:26:50,531 --> 03:26:52,199
very strong advocacy for the

6653
03:26:52,199 --> 03:26:56,137
cctv program. And again, I'm

6654
03:26:56,137 --> 03:26:58,839
looking forward to having that

6655
03:26:58,839 --> 03:26:59,874
discussion when we have those

6656
03:26:59,874 --> 03:27:01,208
reports to to delve into. Thank

6657
03:27:01,208 --> 03:27:01,408
you.

6658
03:27:01,408 --> 03:27:05,846
-- thank you. Councilmember la.

6659
03:27:05,846 --> 03:27:06,947
so colleagues, last week I

6660
03:27:06,947 --> 03:27:11,418
brought an amendment that

6661
03:27:11,418 --> 03:27:12,987
basically withdrew $250,000 from

6662
03:27:12,987 --> 03:27:15,189
the proviso that I did vote on

6663
03:27:15,189 --> 03:27:18,259
the previous year for cctv

6664
03:27:18,259 --> 03:27:19,827
cameras. I voted on cctv

6665
03:27:19,827 --> 03:27:21,195
cameras. People remind me every

6666
03:27:21,195 --> 03:27:25,433
day I understand, but I did have

6667
03:27:25,433 --> 03:27:26,033
an amendment to withdraw the

6668
03:27:26,033 --> 03:27:26,667
$250,000 that would go to boots

6669
03:27:26,667 --> 03:27:29,570
on the ground right now in

6670
03:27:29,570 --> 03:27:30,871
capitol hill, first hill and our

6671
03:27:30,871 --> 03:27:33,741
central district along the

6672
03:27:33,741 --> 03:27:35,876
jackson corridor. That will get

6673
03:27:35,876 --> 03:27:37,144
started fairly quickly here. And

6674
03:27:37,144 --> 03:27:39,947
I can say on the record, in 30

6675
03:27:39,947 --> 03:27:44,151
days or less to have people that

6676
03:27:44,151 --> 03:27:44,785
are going to be ambassadors on

6677
03:27:44,785 --> 03:27:46,420
the hill, which I'm really,

6678
03:27:46,420 --> 03:27:47,421
really excited about. And that

6679
03:27:47,421 --> 03:27:50,724
program will continue because we

6680
03:27:50,724 --> 03:27:52,793
do have some funding from king

6681
03:27:52,793 --> 03:27:54,795
county with the crisis care

6682
03:27:54,795 --> 03:27:55,429
clinic implementation plan that

6683
03:27:55,429 --> 03:27:58,432
our office did also request more

6684
03:27:58,432 --> 03:28:00,601
additional funding from them. So

6685
03:28:00,601 --> 03:28:01,302
that program will be started.

6686
03:28:01,302 --> 03:28:04,171
ambassadors. I also want to

6687
03:28:04,171 --> 03:28:06,207
thank councilmember strauss

6688
03:28:06,207 --> 03:28:06,841
because ambassadors has always

6689
03:28:06,841 --> 03:28:08,008
been in the program, especially

6690
03:28:08,008 --> 03:28:09,343
for the first year. And so this

6691
03:28:09,343 --> 03:28:11,045
is kind of just a continuation

6692
03:28:11,045 --> 03:28:12,847
of that and acceleration. I also

6693
03:28:12,847 --> 03:28:14,682
want to thank councilmember

6694
03:28:14,682 --> 03:28:16,684
kettle as well. You know, you

6695
03:28:16,684 --> 03:28:19,086
worked with me on the amendment

6696
03:28:19,086 --> 03:28:21,388
because really the issue with

6697
03:28:21,388 --> 03:28:23,424
this for me was the cameras on

6698
03:28:23,424 --> 03:28:24,758
capitol hill. What I heard from

6699
03:28:24,758 --> 03:28:26,060
community, what is needed right

6700
03:28:26,060 --> 03:28:28,462
now, boots on the ground. So I

6701
03:28:28,462 --> 03:28:30,397
will be supporting this

6702
03:28:30,397 --> 03:28:31,765
amendment today. Looking forward

6703
03:28:31,765 --> 03:28:33,601
to the report that's coming

6704
03:28:33,601 --> 03:28:34,134
sometime in september or

6705
03:28:34,134 --> 03:28:38,939
october. I have no clue. But

6706
03:28:38,939 --> 03:28:39,573
this is a provision that does

6707
03:28:39,573 --> 03:28:40,140
not allow that expansion in

6708
03:28:40,140 --> 03:28:41,008
capitol hill, because we will

6709
03:28:41,008 --> 03:28:42,977
have boots on the ground, and

6710
03:28:42,977 --> 03:28:44,378
that's what's put in this

6711
03:28:44,378 --> 03:28:46,447
amendment. So just wanted to be

6712
03:28:46,447 --> 03:28:48,682
clear on that, colleagues,

6713
03:28:48,682 --> 03:28:50,851
regarding this amendment, are

6714
03:28:50,851 --> 03:28:53,554
there any are there any further

6715
03:28:53,554 --> 03:28:55,089
comments? Councilmember kettle.

6716
03:28:55,089 --> 03:28:57,491
no, I hear no.

6717
03:28:57,491 --> 03:28:58,158
-- councilmember kettle final.

6718
03:28:58,158 --> 03:29:01,028
-- are there final? Yeah. My

6719
03:29:01,028 --> 03:29:01,595
final I hear councilmember

6720
03:29:01,595 --> 03:29:03,063
rivera.

6721
03:29:03,063 --> 03:29:03,631
-- just to clarify that the

6722
03:29:03,631 --> 03:29:05,900
amendment that you proffered, I

6723
03:29:05,900 --> 03:29:07,701
understand, was going to be just

6724
03:29:07,701 --> 03:29:09,003
for this year, so we could take

6725
03:29:09,003 --> 03:29:10,037
up some work this year that

6726
03:29:10,037 --> 03:29:11,305
we're not going to be able to

6727
03:29:11,305 --> 03:29:13,107
take up, because they're not

6728
03:29:13,107 --> 03:29:15,276
going to be able to get the

6729
03:29:15,276 --> 03:29:17,778
staff hired to be able to look

6730
03:29:17,778 --> 03:29:19,613
at the cc, you know, to to do

6731
03:29:19,613 --> 03:29:21,015
the cctv program this year. And

6732
03:29:21,015 --> 03:29:24,818
so the, the, the idea was that

6733
03:29:24,818 --> 03:29:25,452
we would get or you want to get

6734
03:29:25,452 --> 03:29:27,922
boots on the ground this year.

6735
03:29:27,922 --> 03:29:28,722
so that's why I supported that

6736
03:29:28,722 --> 03:29:32,426
amendment. But I also support

6737
03:29:32,426 --> 03:29:34,395
the ongoing cctv piece. So

6738
03:29:34,395 --> 03:29:36,430
again, want to thank you,

6739
03:29:36,430 --> 03:29:37,765
councilmember kettle, for

6740
03:29:37,765 --> 03:29:40,034
keeping your eye on the prize on

6741
03:29:40,034 --> 03:29:40,801
that support that and want to

6742
03:29:40,801 --> 03:29:44,071
make sure we can do something

6743
03:29:44,071 --> 03:29:45,906
now to support capitol hill.

6744
03:29:45,906 --> 03:29:48,375
thanks.

6745
03:29:48,375 --> 03:29:49,243
-- awesome. Thank you for that.

6746
03:29:49,243 --> 03:29:49,877
councilmember rivera are there

6747
03:29:49,877 --> 03:29:51,478
any other comments?

6748
03:29:51,478 --> 03:29:53,314
councilmember kettle any closing

6749
03:29:53,314 --> 03:29:54,048
remarks before we take the vote?

6750
03:29:54,048 --> 03:29:55,482
-- thank you, council president.

6751
03:29:55,482 --> 03:29:56,750
I would just note that this

6752
03:29:56,750 --> 03:29:59,420
program and our proviso are not

6753
03:29:59,420 --> 03:30:01,088
new. They are part of the

6754
03:30:01,088 --> 03:30:02,389
current year budget that we all

6755
03:30:02,389 --> 03:30:05,893
voted on last fall. And I should

6756
03:30:05,893 --> 03:30:07,394
note too, I'll be meeting with

6757
03:30:07,394 --> 03:30:10,331
nyu on friday. I have confidence

6758
03:30:10,331 --> 03:30:12,299
in the the review, and I'm

6759
03:30:12,299 --> 03:30:14,435
confident that should be done in

6760
03:30:14,435 --> 03:30:16,637
september. And if the mayor

6761
03:30:16,637 --> 03:30:17,571
keeps to her word, I think we

6762
03:30:17,571 --> 03:30:20,808
can move forward. So thank you.

6763
03:30:20,808 --> 03:30:21,141
-- thank you.

6764
03:30:21,141 --> 03:30:22,643
-- council colleagues. I ask for

6765
03:30:22,643 --> 03:30:22,943
your vote.

6766
03:30:22,943 --> 03:30:23,744
-- thank you, councilmember

6767
03:30:23,744 --> 03:30:24,678
kettle will the clerk please

6768
03:30:24,678 --> 03:30:26,747
call the roll on amendment b,

6769
03:30:26,747 --> 03:30:30,384
version two.

6770
03:30:30,384 --> 03:30:34,822
-- councilmember foster

6771
03:30:34,822 --> 03:30:35,289
councilmember juarez

6772
03:30:35,289 --> 03:30:37,391
councilmember kettle.

6773
03:30:37,391 --> 03:30:37,625
-- aye.

6774
03:30:37,625 --> 03:30:42,396
-- councilmember lin no.

6775
03:30:42,396 --> 03:30:45,399
-- councilmember rinck no.

6776
03:30:45,399 --> 03:30:45,933
-- councilmember rivera.

6777
03:30:45,933 --> 03:30:48,002
-- no.

6778
03:30:48,002 --> 03:30:48,802
-- councilmember saka. Aye.

6779
03:30:48,802 --> 03:30:51,205
-- councilmember strauss council

6780
03:30:51,205 --> 03:30:51,739
president hollingsworth.

6781
03:30:51,739 --> 03:30:52,639
-- yes

6782
03:30:52,639 --> 03:30:55,709
-- five in favor four opposed.

6783
03:30:55,709 --> 03:30:57,511
-- motion carries. Amendment b

6784
03:30:57,511 --> 03:30:58,812
version two is adopted. Are

6785
03:30:58,812 --> 03:30:59,880
there any other further comments

6786
03:30:59,880 --> 03:31:02,049
as the bill as amendment as

6787
03:31:02,049 --> 03:31:07,755
amended. Council bill 121253.

6788
03:31:07,755 --> 03:31:08,222
councilmember rinck.

6789
03:31:08,222 --> 03:31:11,458
-- thank you. Council president.

6790
03:31:11,458 --> 03:31:12,059
to begin, I want to speak

6791
03:31:12,059 --> 03:31:14,094
directly to some of the public

6792
03:31:14,094 --> 03:31:16,130
comment that we heard today from

6793
03:31:16,130 --> 03:31:18,132
the powerful testimony from our

6794
03:31:18,132 --> 03:31:19,533
trans neighbors to also the

6795
03:31:19,533 --> 03:31:20,901
transphobia that was also heard

6796
03:31:20,901 --> 03:31:24,705
in these chambers. And I want to

6797
03:31:24,705 --> 03:31:25,305
state to our queer and trans

6798
03:31:25,305 --> 03:31:26,540
community directly, you belong

6799
03:31:26,540 --> 03:31:28,075
in seattle. I am glad you were

6800
03:31:28,075 --> 03:31:30,677
here. You deserve dignity and

6801
03:31:30,677 --> 03:31:32,613
respect and we are going to do

6802
03:31:32,613 --> 03:31:34,448
the work to live up to our

6803
03:31:34,448 --> 03:31:35,849
promise of being a welcoming

6804
03:31:35,849 --> 03:31:37,484
city. Thank you, chair strauss,

6805
03:31:37,484 --> 03:31:39,453
and the for the committee

6806
03:31:39,453 --> 03:31:40,988
sponsorship of the amendment.

6807
03:31:40,988 --> 03:31:44,091
and thank you to the finance,

6808
03:31:44,091 --> 03:31:44,691
tribal governments and native

6809
03:31:44,691 --> 03:31:46,460
communities committee that

6810
03:31:46,460 --> 03:31:49,129
unanimously voted to approve my

6811
03:31:49,129 --> 03:31:50,764
amendment for $300,000 in one

6812
03:31:50,764 --> 03:31:51,699
time funding for the human

6813
03:31:51,699 --> 03:31:52,366
services department to grant out

6814
03:31:52,366 --> 03:31:54,401
that funding to trusted

6815
03:31:54,401 --> 03:31:57,171
community based organizations

6816
03:31:57,171 --> 03:31:58,939
supporting queer and transgender

6817
03:31:58,939 --> 03:32:00,808
people with essential services,

6818
03:32:00,808 --> 03:32:01,408
including shelter and housing

6819
03:32:01,408 --> 03:32:03,977
and food support. As stated in

6820
03:32:03,977 --> 03:32:06,180
committee last week during last

6821
03:32:06,180 --> 03:32:06,780
year's supplemental budget

6822
03:32:06,780 --> 03:32:07,448
process, I supported a one time

6823
03:32:07,448 --> 03:32:09,383
allocation of $300,000 to the

6824
03:32:09,383 --> 03:32:11,518
office of immigrant and refugee

6825
03:32:11,518 --> 03:32:14,321
affairs to support urgent and

6826
03:32:14,321 --> 03:32:15,322
emerging issues facing our

6827
03:32:15,322 --> 03:32:17,224
immigrant and refugee community,

6828
03:32:17,224 --> 03:32:19,026
and this amendment, approved

6829
03:32:19,026 --> 03:32:20,661
last week, was written in that

6830
03:32:20,661 --> 03:32:22,196
same spirit and in response to

6831
03:32:22,196 --> 03:32:24,898
the ongoing crisis and

6832
03:32:24,898 --> 03:32:25,399
displacement of queer,

6833
03:32:25,399 --> 03:32:27,000
transgender and gender

6834
03:32:27,000 --> 03:32:27,601
non-conforming people seeking

6835
03:32:27,601 --> 03:32:29,903
refuge from hostile

6836
03:32:29,903 --> 03:32:32,773
jurisdictions across the country

6837
03:32:32,773 --> 03:32:33,273
to just affirm internal

6838
03:32:33,273 --> 03:32:34,842
displacement of trans americans

6839
03:32:34,842 --> 03:32:38,345
is real. It is being fueled by

6840
03:32:38,345 --> 03:32:38,979
elected officials who champion

6841
03:32:38,979 --> 03:32:40,514
anti-trans policies and state

6842
03:32:40,514 --> 03:32:42,316
legislatures. And so far in

6843
03:32:42,316 --> 03:32:46,920
2026, there are now 830 bills

6844
03:32:46,920 --> 03:32:47,554
under consideration across the

6845
03:32:47,554 --> 03:32:49,490
country that would negatively

6846
03:32:49,490 --> 03:32:50,791
impact trans and gender

6847
03:32:50,791 --> 03:32:52,526
non-conforming people, and 62

6848
03:32:52,526 --> 03:32:53,127
pieces of legislation have

6849
03:32:53,127 --> 03:32:56,497
passed this year alone. Now, as

6850
03:32:56,497 --> 03:32:57,965
you may recall, council was

6851
03:32:57,965 --> 03:32:59,666
briefed on this matter, most

6852
03:32:59,666 --> 03:33:01,135
recently during the june select

6853
03:33:01,135 --> 03:33:01,602
committee on federal

6854
03:33:01,602 --> 03:33:02,603
administration and policy

6855
03:33:02,603 --> 03:33:04,338
changes, where we heard directly

6856
03:33:04,338 --> 03:33:04,905
from community about urgent

6857
03:33:04,905 --> 03:33:08,175
needs for housing, employment,

6858
03:33:08,175 --> 03:33:09,109
food and health care support.

6859
03:33:09,109 --> 03:33:09,743
but this has been a continuation

6860
03:33:09,743 --> 03:33:11,745
of a discussion that began last

6861
03:33:11,745 --> 03:33:13,547
year, when we had lavender

6862
03:33:13,547 --> 03:33:15,649
rights project, queer power

6863
03:33:15,649 --> 03:33:16,150
alliance and pro-choice

6864
03:33:16,150 --> 03:33:17,017
washington at the table

6865
03:33:17,017 --> 03:33:19,019
discussing access to gender

6866
03:33:19,019 --> 03:33:20,654
affirming care. So I'm very

6867
03:33:20,654 --> 03:33:22,256
clear that while this one time

6868
03:33:22,256 --> 03:33:24,625
funding is not enough to address

6869
03:33:24,625 --> 03:33:25,259
the full need, it is a start,

6870
03:33:25,259 --> 03:33:27,461
and it signals our commitment

6871
03:33:27,461 --> 03:33:28,228
that the city of seattle will

6872
03:33:28,228 --> 03:33:29,296
work towards living up to that

6873
03:33:29,296 --> 03:33:30,764
promise of being a welcoming

6874
03:33:30,764 --> 03:33:33,600
city. So thank you so much again

6875
03:33:33,600 --> 03:33:34,801
to the committee for your

6876
03:33:34,801 --> 03:33:36,203
support, and I urge you to vote

6877
03:33:36,203 --> 03:33:36,436
today.

6878
03:33:36,436 --> 03:33:37,704
-- awesome.

6879
03:33:37,704 --> 03:33:38,872
-- thank you. Thank you,

6880
03:33:38,872 --> 03:33:41,408
councilmember rinck. We have

6881
03:33:41,408 --> 03:33:42,042
councilmember kettle followed by

6882
03:33:42,042 --> 03:33:43,410
councilmember lin and

6883
03:33:43,410 --> 03:33:43,877
councilmember foster.

6884
03:33:43,877 --> 03:33:45,078
-- thank you, council president.

6885
03:33:45,078 --> 03:33:47,581
I just wanted to speak on

6886
03:33:47,581 --> 03:33:49,216
basically the same topic. I

6887
03:33:49,216 --> 03:33:51,151
spoke during committee. I was

6888
03:33:51,151 --> 03:33:54,054
not here. I was remoting in. I

6889
03:33:54,054 --> 03:33:56,023
was out of town. But I do think

6890
03:33:56,023 --> 03:33:58,625
it's important. I do come from

6891
03:33:58,625 --> 03:33:59,993
a red county of a blue state. I

6892
03:33:59,993 --> 03:34:03,764
am a retired military naval

6893
03:34:03,764 --> 03:34:04,698
officer and what is happening at

6894
03:34:04,698 --> 03:34:07,834
the federal level with respect

6895
03:34:07,834 --> 03:34:09,369
to president trump's actions? If

6896
03:34:09,369 --> 03:34:12,039
you look at what's happening in

6897
03:34:12,039 --> 03:34:14,708
dod with secretary hegseth,

6898
03:34:14,708 --> 03:34:15,342
it's appalling. And I think

6899
03:34:15,342 --> 03:34:19,680
it's important for somebody

6900
03:34:19,680 --> 03:34:21,582
like me looks like me. My

6901
03:34:21,582 --> 03:34:22,816
background, where I'm from and

6902
03:34:22,816 --> 03:34:27,254
so forth to speak just like I

6903
03:34:27,254 --> 03:34:29,489
did over a zoom call, but also

6904
03:34:29,489 --> 03:34:33,560
do it in person and so last week

6905
03:34:33,560 --> 03:34:36,296
I noted, because, you know,

6906
03:34:36,296 --> 03:34:38,465
justin davis, who is part of the

6907
03:34:38,465 --> 03:34:39,733
lgbtq plus commission, she wrote

6908
03:34:39,733 --> 03:34:42,502
an op ed in the stranger, they

6909
03:34:42,502 --> 03:34:44,304
called a guest rant, and it's an

6910
03:34:44,304 --> 03:34:49,076
op ed and, and she made that

6911
03:34:49,076 --> 03:34:50,410
very clear point that she

6912
03:34:50,410 --> 03:34:51,311
didn't come here for some

6913
03:34:51,311 --> 03:34:53,614
political ideology. She came

6914
03:34:53,614 --> 03:34:54,248
here for survival. And and by

6915
03:34:54,248 --> 03:34:55,716
the way, everybody that's here,

6916
03:34:55,716 --> 03:34:56,550
when you say that, I recognize

6917
03:34:56,550 --> 03:35:00,053
that truth in the comments here

6918
03:35:00,053 --> 03:35:01,521
in public comment. And so I

6919
03:35:01,521 --> 03:35:02,489
think it's important to say

6920
03:35:02,489 --> 03:35:05,192
that in person here in council,

6921
03:35:05,192 --> 03:35:05,993
not just coming in over zoom

6922
03:35:05,993 --> 03:35:07,895
during a committee meeting. And

6923
03:35:07,895 --> 03:35:09,229
so council president, I just

6924
03:35:09,229 --> 03:35:10,764
wanted to have the opportunity

6925
03:35:10,764 --> 03:35:12,666
to do so. And, you know,

6926
03:35:12,666 --> 03:35:14,735
hopefully seattle can be that

6927
03:35:14,735 --> 03:35:16,470
welcoming place. And, you know,

6928
03:35:16,470 --> 03:35:20,974
finding peace and solace here

6929
03:35:20,974 --> 03:35:22,776
and yes, fingers crossed. Thank

6930
03:35:22,776 --> 03:35:23,911
you, council president.

6931
03:35:23,911 --> 03:35:25,512
-- thank you. Councilmember

6932
03:35:25,512 --> 03:35:26,079
kettle. Councilmember lin.

6933
03:35:26,079 --> 03:35:28,849
followed by councilmember

6934
03:35:28,849 --> 03:35:29,082
foster.

6935
03:35:29,082 --> 03:35:33,020
-- thank you, council president

6936
03:35:33,020 --> 03:35:35,489
and thank you, councilmember.

6937
03:35:35,489 --> 03:35:38,325
kettle. I do think it's really

6938
03:35:38,325 --> 03:35:39,393
important to hear that,

6939
03:35:39,393 --> 03:35:40,994
especially given your your

6940
03:35:40,994 --> 03:35:42,296
background, your years of

6941
03:35:42,296 --> 03:35:45,332
service in the military and I

6942
03:35:45,332 --> 03:35:46,099
really appreciate that. And just

6943
03:35:46,099 --> 03:35:48,068
want to say thank you to

6944
03:35:48,068 --> 03:35:49,069
councilmember rinck for all of

6945
03:35:49,069 --> 03:35:52,906
your work in this. And also just

6946
03:35:52,906 --> 03:35:55,142
want to speak to, you know, I

6947
03:35:55,142 --> 03:35:57,711
think I just want to speak to

6948
03:35:57,711 --> 03:35:59,379
the contributions of, you know,

6949
03:35:59,379 --> 03:36:01,281
it is a difficult thing when

6950
03:36:01,281 --> 03:36:04,418
people are fleeing oppression

6951
03:36:04,418 --> 03:36:07,254
and violence and so obviously,

6952
03:36:07,254 --> 03:36:09,022
we need to do what we can to

6953
03:36:09,022 --> 03:36:11,391
support and to be a welcoming

6954
03:36:11,391 --> 03:36:14,127
city. But I also just want to

6955
03:36:14,127 --> 03:36:16,129
recognize the incredible

6956
03:36:16,129 --> 03:36:18,298
contributions of folks that have

6957
03:36:18,298 --> 03:36:20,133
already made to our community,

6958
03:36:20,133 --> 03:36:20,968
but will continue to make to our

6959
03:36:20,968 --> 03:36:23,570
community and will make our

6960
03:36:23,570 --> 03:36:25,272
community even stronger in the

6961
03:36:25,272 --> 03:36:25,872
long run. So I just want to

6962
03:36:25,872 --> 03:36:29,109
speak to that. Thank you.

6963
03:36:29,109 --> 03:36:29,609
-- awesome. Thank you.

6964
03:36:29,609 --> 03:36:30,243
councilmember lin councilmember

6965
03:36:30,243 --> 03:36:31,611
foster.

6966
03:36:31,611 --> 03:36:33,747
-- thank you, council president,

6967
03:36:33,747 --> 03:36:37,718
trans people belong here,

6968
03:36:37,718 --> 03:36:40,287
period.

6969
03:36:40,287 --> 03:36:42,556
-- that's it. Oh, that was that

6970
03:36:42,556 --> 03:36:43,757
was great. Thank you

6971
03:36:43,757 --> 03:36:45,425
councilmember. Thank you,

6972
03:36:45,425 --> 03:36:45,993
councilmember foster. I'm

6973
03:36:45,993 --> 03:36:47,361
excited to vote on this. Thank

6974
03:36:47,361 --> 03:36:48,261
you. Councilmember. We're voting

6975
03:36:48,261 --> 03:36:49,129
on the overall bill. I know

6976
03:36:49,129 --> 03:36:51,765
we're highlighting the 300,000

6977
03:36:51,765 --> 03:36:56,036
for trans community and just

6978
03:36:56,036 --> 03:36:57,304
really happy to support that as

6979
03:36:57,304 --> 03:36:58,772
well. I know it's a small drop

6980
03:36:58,772 --> 03:37:00,173
in the bucket, but I think it's

6981
03:37:00,173 --> 03:37:01,108
a great start and we'll continue

6982
03:37:01,108 --> 03:37:03,877
to build on that as a council as

6983
03:37:03,877 --> 03:37:04,544
well. And I just want to, for

6984
03:37:04,544 --> 03:37:06,813
the record, unanimously and I

6985
03:37:06,813 --> 03:37:08,014
said this in the finance

6986
03:37:08,014 --> 03:37:10,550
committee, this council

6987
03:37:10,550 --> 03:37:11,985
supported funding for lavender

6988
03:37:11,985 --> 03:37:13,253
rights project last year, and

6989
03:37:13,253 --> 03:37:14,654
that was in the consent package.

6990
03:37:14,654 --> 03:37:16,790
that was from councilmember

6991
03:37:16,790 --> 03:37:18,625
strauss. So thank you for that

6992
03:37:18,625 --> 03:37:19,426
as well. So just wanted, you

6993
03:37:19,426 --> 03:37:22,295
know, like that we can continue

6994
03:37:22,295 --> 03:37:22,929
to build on these investments as

6995
03:37:22,929 --> 03:37:26,700
well. So thank you. Okay.

6996
03:37:26,700 --> 03:37:27,367
councilmember strauss. Nothing.

6997
03:37:27,367 --> 03:37:29,669
all right. So there's no more

6998
03:37:29,669 --> 03:37:31,204
comments about item number three

6999
03:37:31,204 --> 03:37:33,206
because we have an item number

7000
03:37:33,206 --> 03:37:34,474
four to vote on. And there's a

7001
03:37:34,474 --> 03:37:36,209
lot of great things in this bill

7002
03:37:36,209 --> 03:37:38,045
universal lunches, the voucher

7003
03:37:38,045 --> 03:37:39,379
program. There's the boots on

7004
03:37:39,379 --> 03:37:41,915
the ground on capitol hill,

7005
03:37:41,915 --> 03:37:42,983
councilmember kettle that I know

7006
03:37:42,983 --> 03:37:43,650
you're excited about, my friend.

7007
03:37:43,650 --> 03:37:44,284
all right, all right. Well, the

7008
03:37:44,284 --> 03:37:47,921
clerk, please call the roll.

7009
03:37:47,921 --> 03:37:50,557
-- councilmember foster.

7010
03:37:50,557 --> 03:37:50,891
-- yes.

7011
03:37:50,891 --> 03:37:53,360
-- councilmember juarez.

7012
03:37:53,360 --> 03:37:54,194
-- yes.

7013
03:37:54,194 --> 03:37:55,295
-- councilmember kettle.

7014
03:37:55,295 --> 03:37:55,595
-- aye.

7015
03:37:55,595 --> 03:37:57,264
-- councilmember lin.

7016
03:37:57,264 --> 03:37:58,632
-- yes.

7017
03:37:58,632 --> 03:38:00,033
-- councilmember rinck.

7018
03:38:00,033 --> 03:38:00,300
-- yes.

7019
03:38:00,300 --> 03:38:00,834
-- councilmember rivera.

7020
03:38:00,834 --> 03:38:03,069
-- aye

7021
03:38:03,069 --> 03:38:07,207
-- councilmember saka. Aye.

7022
03:38:07,207 --> 03:38:07,707
councilmember strauss.

7023
03:38:07,707 --> 03:38:09,543
-- I council president.

7024
03:38:09,543 --> 03:38:09,943
-- hollingsworth.

7025
03:38:09,943 --> 03:38:10,177
-- yes.

7026
03:38:10,177 --> 03:38:10,811
-- nine in favor? None. Opposed.

7027
03:38:10,811 --> 03:38:11,545
-- bill passes. Chair will sign

7028
03:38:11,545 --> 03:38:13,280
it. And will the clerk please

7029
03:38:13,280 --> 03:38:15,482
fix my signature on the

7030
03:38:15,482 --> 03:38:18,852
legislation on my

7031
03:38:18,852 --> 03:38:19,186
-- [applause]

7032
03:38:19,186 --> 03:38:19,486
-- behalf?

7033
03:38:19,486 --> 03:38:24,958
-- [applause]

7034
03:38:24,958 --> 03:38:25,492
-- I'm sure that.

7035
03:38:25,492 --> 03:38:27,060
-- was the biggest clap for the

7036
03:38:27,060 --> 03:38:28,562
mid supplemental budget

7037
03:38:28,562 --> 03:38:29,629
councilmember strauss. All

7038
03:38:29,629 --> 03:38:29,863
right.

7039
03:38:29,863 --> 03:38:32,232
-- we finish this meeting. It's

7040
03:38:32,232 --> 03:38:32,966
545. I appreciate everyone being

7041
03:38:32,966 --> 03:38:33,433
here. Can we finish.

7042
03:38:33,433 --> 03:38:35,168
-- up, please? Will the clerk

7043
03:38:35,168 --> 03:38:35,769
please read item number four

7044
03:38:35,769 --> 03:38:36,837
into the record?

7045
03:38:36,837 --> 03:38:39,306
-- the report of the

7046
03:38:39,306 --> 03:38:42,142
transportation committee, agenda

7047
03:38:42,142 --> 03:38:44,244
item four clerk files 314550.

7048
03:38:44,244 --> 03:38:44,811
request for modification of

7049
03:38:44,811 --> 03:38:46,913
conditional approval of a

7050
03:38:46,913 --> 03:38:47,481
petition of swedish health

7051
03:38:47,481 --> 03:38:48,281
services to vacate the alley and

7052
03:38:48,281 --> 03:38:50,117
block 95. Terry. Second edition

7053
03:38:50,117 --> 03:38:51,151
to the city of seattle. The

7054
03:38:51,151 --> 03:38:52,252
committee recommends the clerk

7055
03:38:52,252 --> 03:38:54,488
files be granted as conditioned.

7056
03:38:54,488 --> 03:38:55,155
-- councilmember saka. As chair

7057
03:38:55,155 --> 03:38:55,856
of the committee, you're

7058
03:38:55,856 --> 03:38:57,491
recognized to present the

7059
03:38:57,491 --> 03:38:59,659
committee report.

7060
03:38:59,659 --> 03:38:59,893
-- aye.

7061
03:38:59,893 --> 03:39:01,228
-- thank you, madam council

7062
03:39:01,228 --> 03:39:04,264
president. I am taking the rest

7063
03:39:04,264 --> 03:39:05,765
of this meeting remotely because

7064
03:39:05,765 --> 03:39:06,867
I'm late to a meeting in west

7065
03:39:06,867 --> 03:39:08,368
seattle about traffic safety.

7066
03:39:08,368 --> 03:39:11,671
so. But this one should be

7067
03:39:11,671 --> 03:39:12,138
brief. It's fairly

7068
03:39:12,138 --> 03:39:14,674
straightforward. This pertains

7069
03:39:14,674 --> 03:39:16,443
to this specific clerk files a

7070
03:39:16,443 --> 03:39:19,246
request for modification of

7071
03:39:19,246 --> 03:39:19,779
conditional approval of a

7072
03:39:19,779 --> 03:39:21,915
petition of swedish health

7073
03:39:21,915 --> 03:39:25,051
services to vacate a specific

7074
03:39:25,051 --> 03:39:28,955
alley on first hill. Swedish has

7075
03:39:28,955 --> 03:39:29,756
asked to delay construction of a

7076
03:39:29,756 --> 03:39:31,358
building until a later date. The

7077
03:39:31,358 --> 03:39:34,628
request was heard in our

7078
03:39:34,628 --> 03:39:36,429
committee last week, and the

7079
03:39:36,429 --> 03:39:38,698
committee was assured that

7080
03:39:38,698 --> 03:39:40,033
swedish will deliver the

7081
03:39:40,033 --> 03:39:41,801
proposed public benefits, which

7082
03:39:41,801 --> 03:39:42,235
will include street

7083
03:39:42,235 --> 03:39:43,703
improvements, funding for

7084
03:39:43,703 --> 03:39:46,206
improvements to the first hill

7085
03:39:46,206 --> 03:39:48,708
park and additional streetscape

7086
03:39:48,708 --> 03:39:51,177
improvements at and near the

7087
03:39:51,177 --> 03:39:53,446
site itself. I note that this

7088
03:39:53,446 --> 03:39:54,881
past committee unanimously and

7089
03:39:54,881 --> 03:39:58,652
about to hop on a bus, but. But

7090
03:39:58,652 --> 03:39:59,819
I encourage your support. Thank

7091
03:39:59,819 --> 03:40:00,020
you.

7092
03:40:00,020 --> 03:40:01,354
-- awesome. Thank you,

7093
03:40:01,354 --> 03:40:04,257
councilmember saka are there any

7094
03:40:04,257 --> 03:40:05,825
comments regarding. Are there

7095
03:40:05,825 --> 03:40:07,494
any other comments? All right.

7096
03:40:07,494 --> 03:40:09,696
will the clerk please call the

7097
03:40:09,696 --> 03:40:11,631
roll on the granting of the

7098
03:40:11,631 --> 03:40:14,301
clerk file as conditioned

7099
03:40:14,301 --> 03:40:16,836
-- councilmember foster.

7100
03:40:16,836 --> 03:40:17,170
-- yes.

7101
03:40:17,170 --> 03:40:21,341
-- councilmember juarez.

7102
03:40:21,341 --> 03:40:21,575
-- yes.

7103
03:40:21,575 --> 03:40:22,108
-- councilmember kettle.

7104
03:40:22,108 --> 03:40:23,843
councilmember lin.

7105
03:40:23,843 --> 03:40:24,077
-- yes.

7106
03:40:24,077 --> 03:40:26,780
-- councilmember rinck.

7107
03:40:26,780 --> 03:40:27,080
-- yes.

7108
03:40:27,080 --> 03:40:27,614
-- councilmember rivera.

7109
03:40:27,614 --> 03:40:29,916
-- aye

7110
03:40:29,916 --> 03:40:30,417
-- councilmember saka.

7111
03:40:30,417 --> 03:40:33,553
-- aye.

7112
03:40:33,553 --> 03:40:34,087
-- councilmember strauss.

7113
03:40:34,087 --> 03:40:34,821
council president.

7114
03:40:34,821 --> 03:40:35,255
hollingsworth. Yes.

7115
03:40:35,255 --> 03:40:37,190
hollingsworth nine in favor none

7116
03:40:37,190 --> 03:40:38,024
opposed.

7117
03:40:38,024 --> 03:40:38,558
-- clerk files granted as

7118
03:40:38,558 --> 03:40:39,459
condition chair will sign it.

7119
03:40:39,459 --> 03:40:41,695
the conditions. Will the clerk

7120
03:40:41,695 --> 03:40:42,529
please fix my signature on the

7121
03:40:42,529 --> 03:40:43,763
city council conditions on my

7122
03:40:43,763 --> 03:40:46,266
behalf? There were no removed

7123
03:40:46,266 --> 03:40:47,968
items from the consent calendar.

7124
03:40:47,968 --> 03:40:50,337
there's not a resolution for

7125
03:40:50,337 --> 03:40:52,572
introduction or adoption today.

7126
03:40:52,572 --> 03:40:53,106
councilmember juarez and

7127
03:40:53,106 --> 03:40:54,541
councilmember strauss. We are

7128
03:40:54,541 --> 03:40:56,776
three hours and 45 minutes into

7129
03:40:56,776 --> 03:40:58,144
this meeting, and you have

7130
03:40:58,144 --> 03:41:01,281
raised your hand. Councilmember

7131
03:41:01,281 --> 03:41:01,514
juarez.

7132
03:41:01,514 --> 03:41:02,916
-- council president, I would

7133
03:41:02,916 --> 03:41:04,050
like to be excused on september

7134
03:41:04,050 --> 03:41:07,721
8th. Please.

7135
03:41:07,721 --> 03:41:09,222
-- is there a. There? If

7136
03:41:09,222 --> 03:41:09,723
there's no objection,

7137
03:41:09,723 --> 03:41:10,323
councilmember juarez will be

7138
03:41:10,323 --> 03:41:11,157
excused from the september 8th

7139
03:41:11,157 --> 03:41:12,392
council meeting. Hearing no

7140
03:41:12,392 --> 03:41:13,026
objection. Councilmember juarez

7141
03:41:13,026 --> 03:41:15,061
you are excused. Councilmember

7142
03:41:15,061 --> 03:41:15,862
strauss.

7143
03:41:15,862 --> 03:41:17,764
-- thank you. We had a lot of

7144
03:41:17,764 --> 03:41:18,398
people in the chambers earlier

7145
03:41:18,398 --> 03:41:19,966
that did not agree with each

7146
03:41:19,966 --> 03:41:22,569
other. That is what democracy

7147
03:41:22,569 --> 03:41:24,971
looks like. I just this has been

7148
03:41:24,971 --> 03:41:25,805
a long day where we've actually

7149
03:41:25,805 --> 03:41:26,706
gotten to celebrate towards the

7150
03:41:26,706 --> 03:41:28,775
end of this meeting, and I

7151
03:41:28,775 --> 03:41:30,777
couldn't go I couldn't end the

7152
03:41:30,777 --> 03:41:33,146
day without also acknowledging

7153
03:41:33,146 --> 03:41:34,848
that last night there was a man

7154
03:41:34,848 --> 03:41:37,384
killed at 85th and 24th. He was

7155
03:41:37,384 --> 03:41:38,551
riding a scooter. He's three

7156
03:41:38,551 --> 03:41:40,654
years younger than me. It's an

7157
03:41:40,654 --> 03:41:41,521
intersection. I ride on a

7158
03:41:41,521 --> 03:41:44,624
scooter through all the time.

7159
03:41:44,624 --> 03:41:46,526
colleagues, you know that about

7160
03:41:46,526 --> 03:41:48,895
22 years ago, I almost died

7161
03:41:48,895 --> 03:41:54,034
after being hit by a driver. Our

7162
03:41:54,034 --> 03:41:55,635
streets have to be safe from

7163
03:41:55,635 --> 03:41:57,671
people dying from serious

7164
03:41:57,671 --> 03:41:58,938
injury. I know that rainier

7165
03:41:58,938 --> 03:42:00,006
valley has way higher death

7166
03:42:00,006 --> 03:42:01,574
rates and serious injury rates

7167
03:42:01,574 --> 03:42:05,378
than district six does, but I

7168
03:42:05,378 --> 03:42:06,112
just couldn't get through this

7169
03:42:06,112 --> 03:42:06,746
day without acknowledging that

7170
03:42:06,746 --> 03:42:09,582
we lost somebody last night

7171
03:42:09,582 --> 03:42:13,920
unnecessarily because people

7172
03:42:13,920 --> 03:42:14,587
were driving dangerously. So if

7173
03:42:14,587 --> 03:42:18,425
we could just take a moment. And

7174
03:42:18,425 --> 03:42:19,859
then I got one bit of happy news

7175
03:42:19,859 --> 03:42:21,294
after that, but I want to take a

7176
03:42:21,294 --> 03:42:30,503
minute thank you, colleagues,

7177
03:42:30,503 --> 03:42:32,105
and also thank you to jeff for

7178
03:42:32,105 --> 03:42:33,540
staying for the rest of that

7179
03:42:33,540 --> 03:42:35,241
meeting, but also in the in the

7180
03:42:35,241 --> 03:42:37,711
positive news, yesterday we had

7181
03:42:37,711 --> 03:42:38,912
orca whales enter into salmon

7182
03:42:38,912 --> 03:42:40,714
bay towards the ballard locks.

7183
03:42:40,714 --> 03:42:43,249
we have been waiting for them to

7184
03:42:43,249 --> 03:42:43,850
come eat these sea lions that

7185
03:42:43,850 --> 03:42:45,452
have been eaten, all the fish.

7186
03:42:45,452 --> 03:42:46,486
and so I'm just very happy that

7187
03:42:46,486 --> 03:42:48,588
we have finally gotten our orca

7188
03:42:48,588 --> 03:42:49,923
whales back in salmon bay to

7189
03:42:49,923 --> 03:42:52,926
protect our fish. Thank you.

7190
03:42:52,926 --> 03:42:54,260
-- thank you, councilmember

7191
03:42:54,260 --> 03:42:54,961
-- [laughter]

7192
03:42:54,961 --> 03:43:00,066
-- strauss all right. Are there

7193
03:43:00,066 --> 03:43:00,934
any other comments? Seeing none.

7194
03:43:00,934 --> 03:43:02,268
thank you, colleagues, for a

7195
03:43:02,268 --> 03:43:04,771
nice long meeting and thank you

7196
03:43:04,771 --> 03:43:07,240
for those comments. We've

7197
03:43:07,240 --> 03:43:08,208
reached the end of today's

7198
03:43:08,208 --> 03:43:10,710
agenda. The next city council

7199
03:43:10,710 --> 03:43:11,344
meeting will be august the 18th

7200
03:43:11,344 --> 03:43:12,879
at 2 p.m.. It is our last

7201
03:43:12,879 --> 03:43:13,513
council meeting before the

7202
03:43:13,513 --> 03:43:16,750
recess, which is on the 21st. So

7203
03:43:16,750 --> 03:43:17,283
this is our last council

7204
03:43:17,283 --> 03:43:18,785
meeting, and then we'll return

7205
03:43:18,785 --> 03:43:21,254
back september 8th. All right.

7206
03:43:21,254 --> 03:43:22,722
hearing no further business. Hi,

7207
03:43:22,722 --> 03:43:23,990
iv auntie loves you. Will be

7208
03:43:23,990 --> 03:43:27,660
further. No further business.

7209
03:43:27,660 --> 03:43:28,261
we're adjourned.

7210
03:43:28,261 --> 03:43:32,398
-- [music]