1 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:37,120 She said I've never been messing with them in the back house 2 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:42,360 something. He's a loser guy. 3 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,360 Um but I I understand it's hard for her. 4 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,000 » When something happens 5 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:04,480 She's the first to reach you. And if you up to no good 6 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,480 That's going to know it. 7 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:11,972 So we can do the rest. There you go. 8 00:03:09,952 --> 00:03:11,972 » [laughter] 9 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:22,120 » I'm the director of the library at the college. 10 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:30,200 You haven't? No? Did you go to school there? No. 11 00:03:53,480 --> 00:04:00,880 We will now call the city special council meeting Wednesday, August 19th 12 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:04,560 to order. We're going to start with a roll call, 13 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,560 please. 14 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:11,000 » Let's see. Robinson is absent. Ames 15 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,760 » Here. >> Scribner 16 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,600 » Here. >> Bogus 17 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,519 » Here. >> Covington 18 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,239 » Here. >> Cross 19 00:04:19,382 --> 00:04:21,320 » [laughter] >> Bradford 20 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,440 » Here. >> Franklin 21 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,440 » Here. 22 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:35,560 » Next on the agenda will be a public hearing for a proposed tax of for 2026. 23 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:41,880 So, we're going to do a roll call of standing committees and led by finance 24 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:46,200 our finance administrator chairwoman Bogus. 25 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:49,520 » Thank you. We have one order for that we're ordinance that we're looking at 26 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:53,443 this afternoon. >> Excuse me. We have to do the public 27 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:55,463 hearing first. Yeah. Yeah. >> [clears throat] 28 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,600 » Is there anybody signed up for our public 29 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,640 » I have four individuals that would like to speak. 30 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:11,040 » Okay. >> Um the first one I have is Kevin Lugen. 31 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:18,880 » Just be clear on the procedure. Is it still the 3 minutes? 32 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:29,880 » Hello. Kevin Lugen, 408 West 22nd Street. I 33 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:34,760 have several concerns about the proposal to increase the property tax rates. 34 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:37,919 I think there could be some way other ways to address 35 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:41,760 what might otherwise be a budget shortfall instead of raising property 36 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:45,760 tax rates, which I really do not feel people in Sedalia can absorb any more 37 00:05:43,919 --> 00:05:51,040 tax rates at this point. One thing that would be an enormous help 38 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:56,800 is some clarity around these over $6 million or just under $6 million 39 00:05:53,960 --> 00:06:00,680 in the drop in the real estate assessed valuation. 40 00:05:58,280 --> 00:06:06,280 I haven't seen any explanation how the county's valuation could drop from $247 41 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:10,200 million in real estate value to $241 million because as you know, they're not 42 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:13,400 making any new land or real estate these days. So, I would expect that to 43 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:17,160 typically go up. I know there is the possibility some Chapter 100 events 44 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:21,000 could be taking place, but I think it would be helpful to understand 45 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:25,400 how the valuation could drop that much, especially when last year it rose by $22 46 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:29,240 million. So, I think if we could get some clarity 47 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:34,240 around that, that would be enormously helpful. I would also like to see if you 48 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:38,800 could look at possibly using some procedural budget mechanisms, either 49 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:42,919 cutting non-essential critical day-to-day expenses, leaving those 50 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:46,800 critical ones alone, but seeing if there could be some way 51 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:50,280 budget cuts could be made before a decision is made 52 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:53,840 in order to see if you can gain that additional delta 53 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:58,840 that would make up the potential shortfall that exists today. And if you 54 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:01,440 can't cut expenses, again, finance director 55 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:07,600 um gave an update this past week indicating 56 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:10,960 that year-to-date we are up $567,000 over projected revenues. 57 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:15,080 I think it would be helpful if we could get an assessment of the likelihood that 58 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:19,640 that's to maintain because if revenue continues to maintain at over 6% over 59 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:23,240 what we projected, do we really need to raise the property taxes? And I just 60 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:27,960 think it's it would be really helpful to look at that and if necessary to delay a 61 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:31,840 decision today and to possibly call additional special meetings because I 62 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:35,560 believe we have until September 1st to report that change. Those are the key 63 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:38,880 points I just wanted to make today and I wanted to see if anybody 64 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:43,760 again, any feedback or any questions, I'd be happy to answer anything that you 65 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:47,240 might have from your perspective. Okay, thank you. I appreciate your time. 66 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:53,560 » The next individual is Chuck Leftwich. 67 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:03,040 » Chuck Leftwich, 908 West Broadway, Sedalia. 68 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:06,240 Well, Kevin's covered the numbers, so I I What I want to say is first of all, I 69 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,720 just can't even believe we're talking about a tax increase. 70 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:14,800 Uh you know, homeowners are already stretched especially senior citizens, 71 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:20,240 high cost of living, struggling to pay for medications, groceries, high cost of 72 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:23,480 living in general, $4 a gallon gas as of today. 73 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:29,800 You know, the list just goes on and on. So, I I just I can't believe that you're 74 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:36,120 asking for more property tax. My personal tax bill, 70% of it goes to the 75 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:42,560 schools. I have no children. I have no grandchildren. But yet, I pay 70% 76 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:45,680 property tax to the school system. So, 77 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:49,360 my feeling is you know, it almost makes me wonder if 78 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:54,400 does the city want to get the tax up so high that people default on their tax so 79 00:08:52,680 --> 00:08:58,800 that a tax lien can be slapped on the property, seize the property, and then 80 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:03,120 eventually sell it at auction? Is that the strategy? You know, I I have to 81 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:07,400 wonder. I really do. I know there's a lot of big salaries being paid right now 82 00:09:05,560 --> 00:09:10,280 in the city of Sedalia, way more than they should be in my 83 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:16,520 opinion. So, high cost of of salaries going out, 84 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:20,440 plus a lot of unnecessary expense, labor law firm, 85 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:24,640 it just goes on and on. That's all I want to say for today. 86 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,640 Thank you. 87 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:32,320 » The next individual is Janet Mazanski. 88 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:46,840 » Just keep getting shorter. Uh Janet Mazanski, 723 East 5th Street, 89 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:51,960 Sedalia, Missouri. Um I He hit on a lot of what I was going 90 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:56,280 to say when I came up here. Um I work with a lot of elderly people doing home 91 00:09:54,040 --> 00:10:01,200 health, and a lot of those people are already stretched on the social security 92 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:05,720 they're trying to live on. Uh they get very little food stamps. 93 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:11,560 They're trying to you know, pay for their personal properties or or their um 94 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:16,280 like their uh taxes on their cars or whatever. Um if you have never worked 95 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:20,480 with these people, I want you to think about this cuz it could be your 96 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:23,880 your parents, your grandparents, whoever. 97 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:27,960 But um you know, we keep raising these taxes 98 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:32,240 when I've seen what uh money being spent here like water. Like 99 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:37,400 like just handing it out for this and that. 100 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:41,040 There's times when I think the city spends some money on some things that 101 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:45,120 could be set back and talked about a little more before you just vote on it 102 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:48,800 and it's passed through. Uh but I really want you to think about 103 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:52,960 the senior citizens because they are going to be the ones that suffer through 104 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:57,520 this property tax rate uh at higher taxes when they're barely 105 00:10:55,320 --> 00:11:01,640 able to pay their stuff now. So, that's all I have. 106 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,640 Thank you. 107 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:08,960 » And the final individual, Debbie Covington. 108 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:25,040 » Um Debbie Covington, um P.O. Box 965. So, 109 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:30,360 have you ever heard the story of a church that got a new pastor, and he 110 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:35,120 wanted to move the piano, and they're all like, "Don't move the piano because 111 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:39,840 people don't like change." And 112 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:45,200 uh so, over a period of time, they move this piano just a little bit every week 113 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:48,440 until eventually the piano's on the other side of the room. And no one says 114 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:52,680 a word. I feel like it's kind of the same 115 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:57,920 concept as taxes. You all move these taxes up, say every 116 00:11:55,600 --> 00:12:03,600 year, and then before you know it, everybody's basically taxed out. Like, 117 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:08,280 that's where people are right now. They're basically taxed out. I agree 118 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:15,160 with Chuck, a lot of our property taxes go to the school, an exorbitant amount, 119 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:22,000 and in fact, they just had a meeting Monday night and decided not to raise 120 00:12:18,680 --> 00:12:30,280 the tax because they too feel everyone is taxed to the umpteenth degree. 121 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:34,320 So, if this tax goes through, this levy, I understand from some math I did, which 122 00:12:32,680 --> 00:12:40,200 I could be wrong, it is 123 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:47,480 kind of a small amount. I believe that there are things, like they mentioned, 124 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:50,800 in the budget that can be cut to uh make up that 125 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:54,600 difference. So, 126 00:12:52,320 --> 00:13:01,160 interestingly enough, so we have the Sedalia Redevelopment 127 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:05,320 Corporation. They have a account 128 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:09,800 where it has 400 to 500,000 dollars in it. 129 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:14,880 I think, if I remember correctly, they just awarded 130 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:18,000 $65,000 for a roof for a for-profit company 131 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:22,320 that our second ward councilwoman works for. 132 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:27,800 And there's $65,000 right there that could offset 133 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:33,080 almost half of what you're going to ask Sedalia to pay in tax if this levy goes 134 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:36,440 through. Um 135 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:40,960 I agree. You have um single 136 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:44,080 families, uh elderly, 137 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:49,160 fixed income that are going to be affected by the raise of property taxes. 138 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:52,760 And like I said, over time it adds up and it keeps adding up and it 139 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:57,520 keeps adding up. We can probably list a multitude of 140 00:13:55,000 --> 00:14:05,600 things that could be cut in the budget to offset this. So, I'm 100% opposed to 141 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:10,360 raising the tax, um just like us, "Hey, just put a $20,000 142 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:14,280 roof on our business. Nobody paid for that for me. 143 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:17,880 I had to work for it. You have to work and live within your 144 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:21,280 means. We have to do that. You all should have to do that. You guys should 145 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:25,880 care. All of you all live in city limits. Every one of you. We have 146 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:29,600 administration, upper-level administration making inflated salaries 147 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:32,640 that do not live in the city limits and that will not be affected by this. 148 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:36,280 That's wrong. Our upper management that are sitting in 149 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:41,920 this room need to live in city limits and adhere 150 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:48,720 to the tax increases, the ordinances and everything we have to 151 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:52,880 adhere to adhere to. So, I hope Another thing, 152 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:59,280 this tax abatements, that's passed on to us. All the free money or extended time 153 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:03,800 that these large corporations everything have to pay tax, 154 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:08,880 it's passed on to us. And things I think can be managed in a 155 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:11,680 way that can lessen the burden on the citizens. 156 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:17,120 And so, I hope council you take into consideration that every time you raise 157 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:20,880 the property tax, it hurts the citizens of Sedalia more and more. And I hope you 158 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:24,840 take that in consideration when you make this vote and whenever you're going to 159 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:27,120 make this vote. I appreciate you. Thank you. 160 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:35,120 » That was the final one I had. >> Okay. 161 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:38,920 Well, next one on the agenda, roll call for standing committees and 162 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:43,560 then we have finance finance administrator 163 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:49,120 chairwoman Boggs. >> Miss Boggs, would you like me to explain 164 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:52,040 a little bit about how the taxes calculated? 165 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:58,360 » Yes, thank you. >> Sure. So, I put together 166 00:15:55,840 --> 00:16:03,320 a sheet to help provide information of how things 167 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:07,000 come about and it's a multi-step process and I'll show you a 168 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:11,200 couple of different documents, but this is 169 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:15,560 a overview of the the process. So, the first step, if you look down here at the 170 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:19,400 sheet I have on the on the screen, it says the process at a glance. 171 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:24,400 So, to start, we start off with the assessment. So, the assessment is done 172 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:29,360 by the the county. The city does not do the assessment of property values. The 173 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:32,640 county does that both in the city and in the county. 174 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:38,640 And so, that determines the assessed valuation. Whether it goes up or goes 175 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:44,400 down is not determined by anyone other than the assessor. The calculation, 176 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:47,560 which is required by the levy calculations and that's how it's 177 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:51,320 completed and I'll show you a form here in a minute that that shows that, but I 178 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:55,880 just wanted to give an overview of the process. Then you get to the point of a 179 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:59,600 hearing, which is where we are at now and then of course, step four would be 180 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:05,680 the final, which is where the levy is adopted by the council. 181 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:09,160 Um, so this gives that that information. So, 182 00:17:06,959 --> 00:17:14,199 uh, when we try to understand it cuz this isn't an easy process and it is is 183 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:19,280 complicated. Um, so what changed over the last from 184 00:17:17,120 --> 00:17:25,439 from year to year. So, the county's total evaluation, this is our portion, 185 00:17:22,360 --> 00:17:30,640 the city's portion of our general 186 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:35,080 real estate tax. So, it did go down. The valuation went down 2.7391%. 187 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:45,480 Um which equals a 0% calculation. So, when the when we get this form, that's 188 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:49,920 where the calculation comes from. We don't figure that calculation. This 189 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:54,720 comes from, as you can see, the state auditor's office. 190 00:17:51,760 --> 00:18:01,400 So, the numbers that you see right here, uh that 4.59 191 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:05,760 and 4. or 0.4996, this is how it is calculated right here. 192 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:14,440 Current rate computed pursuant to Article X Section 22 of the Missouri 193 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:18,440 Constitution. So, that's where that number comes from. 194 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:28,920 So, to help understand how that that number comes about, when 195 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:33,120 it why is it different? Well, the the valuation went down, 196 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:40,160 but the revenue by this form right here from the state 197 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,160 says 198 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:47,600 right here, total revenue permitted in the current year is that amount. So, 199 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:54,800 it's the same as as last year. So, the permitted revenue 200 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:59,240 is the same in each year. It's this 201 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:03,480 the tax rate does go up, but the permitted revenue 202 00:19:01,120 --> 00:19:08,520 stays the same because the valuation went down. Does that make sense? 203 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:12,960 So, it's a calculation and a formula to keep the permitted revenue at the same 204 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:19,240 amount. But the assessed valuation goes up, but 205 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:23,440 the valuation is or the the the amount per 100 206 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:28,160 if that makes sense. So, when 207 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:33,280 we put these numbers together, it all comes 208 00:19:30,360 --> 00:19:38,400 from the state auditor's office and also the county. 209 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:43,400 So, that is where the numbers come from and you can see this is the form that we 210 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:48,200 received on this on the and it does go down through the 211 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:52,120 different political subdivisions like for example, this one is for the 212 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:56,480 library. But the sheet that I have here 213 00:19:55,000 --> 00:20:02,000 just since I'd not having a sheet for every single one 214 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:06,200 of the taxes um explains it. The valuation 215 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:11,800 is calculated that property evaluation is used in the formula for each one of 216 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:15,720 the taxes like the library tax or the pension funds, that sort of thing. Does 217 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:20,320 that help explain uh the process and where the numbers 218 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:22,120 come from and that sort of thing? Okay. 219 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:25,120 » So, what the what's the I'm sorry, what's the the total percentage? Is that 220 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,760 like a 2. >> 2.43 221 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:30,160 » 2.8 percent that it went the 222 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:37,120 » 2.28 >> the valuation went down 2.7391. 223 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:39,840 So, basically 2.7% is what the valuation went down. 224 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:46,920 » In the assessment >> the assess the assessed valuation, yes. 225 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:54,280 » No, I see. You're saying that it looks like it'll 226 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:59,920 be an increase of $43 with the same from 25 to 26 227 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:05,240 potentially? >> $43. So, the 228 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:10,520 » From the from the amount here for $100 of tax rate. 229 00:21:06,360 --> 00:21:15,080 » So, the the tax rate is based on this or on the valuation. So, the reason that 230 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:20,520 number that I'm pointing at here went up to here is to maintain the same the the 231 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:23,320 law allows to maintain the same amount of revenue. 232 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,560 » So, it's not going to increase based on what this is saying. 233 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:30,320 » It's going to I don't I don't want to say that someone's taxes aren't going to 234 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,520 go up because I don't know. >> It's going to 235 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,680 » You could have >> Well, it would go up. Yeah, it 236 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,240 » a penny on a hundred, right? >> Yes. 237 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:41,840 » That's what the rate showed on the >> But, the valuation went down. 238 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:46,760 » Yeah. So, it's the property went down. >> The cuz that is the total valuation of 239 00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:52,520 all properties. There's a possibility that say you did something to your 240 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:58,720 property that added value to it, your valuation went up. So, you would pay 241 00:21:55,680 --> 00:22:03,280 more taxes cuz your valuation went up. But, there are some properties that 242 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:08,280 clearly from this show that their value went down. 243 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:12,440 So, they would pay approximately the same, but again, I'm not going to cuz 244 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:17,400 every property is different. That's why the assessor goes to every single 245 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:22,600 property and looks at it each year. is to check and establish the valuation of 246 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,600 that property. 247 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:34,240 » So, it sounds like to me that this is not something that the city has put in 248 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:38,440 place. This is something that the county puts in place and we have to approve and 249 00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:45,800 acknowledge it. >> If you want to collect the revenue from 250 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:45,800 this tax, then yes, you are correct. 251 00:22:50,930 --> 00:22:54,920 » [snorts] >> But, the revenue would still be 252 00:22:53,840 --> 00:23:00,840 the 1.6 >> The revenue would be the 1.6 and if 253 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:05,800 there is any new property, then that new property will have taxes 254 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:10,920 collected on it. So, your revenue, the increase in your 255 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:15,760 revenue, would be the new properties that are added. So, if someone built a 256 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:19,840 new house, they're now paying taxes on it. 257 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:23,280 The city's portion, if it's in the city limits, would then come in. 258 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:29,160 » But, we just kept it the same as still the same. 259 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:33,280 » Yes, that revenue is still going to be there cuz it's a new taxed property. 260 00:23:34,816 --> 00:23:36,836 » [snorts] 261 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,160 » Are there any other questions? 262 00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:55,920 So, the council is being asked to approve the City of Sedalia's property 263 00:23:53,160 --> 00:24:00,480 tax levy for the 2026 tax year. The ordinance establishes the applicable tax 264 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:04,800 rates for the city public library, park farming, and police pension funds, and 265 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:09,720 special business district. This item requires requires a special meeting 266 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:14,960 because the city must receive updated assessment valuation information before 267 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:19,240 the annual tax levy can be accurately calculated. Due to the timing of 268 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:23,600 receiving that information, completing and verifying the required calculation, 269 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:28,040 and providing the required public notice, the item could not be considered 270 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:32,120 during a regular scheduled council meeting. The levy must be approved by 271 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:37,720 September 1 in order for the rates to be placed on the tax books for the county. 272 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:41,520 The property tax rates are not simply selected by the city each year. They are 273 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:46,280 calculated in accordance with Missouri law, based upon assessed valuation and 274 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:51,040 other factors established by the state law, including changes in valuation, new 275 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:55,800 construction, and improvement, and allowed the growth. This process 276 00:24:53,240 --> 00:25:00,880 established the city's tax rate ceiling and is intended to limit increases in 277 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:05,960 property tax revenue result resulting solely from increases in existing 278 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:13,680 property values. For 2026, the ordinance establishes city levy of 0.4996 279 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:19,440 per $100 of assessed valuation along with applicable library, parks, pension, 280 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:23,920 and special district special business district levies, depending upon the 281 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:30,880 location of the property and the taxing districts in which it is located. The 282 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:39,280 combined levy will range from 0.8216 to 1.9844 283 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:39,280 per per $100 of assessed valuation. 284 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:49,320 This proposed calls for an ordinance to be passed. 285 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:14,360 » So, I call for the reading. Where's everyone? So, I call for the 286 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,360 reading of bill number 2026-103. 287 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:21,840 » Bill [clears throat] number 2026-103. Excuse me. 288 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:27,080 An ordinance levying providing for the collection of taxes for the year 2026 in 289 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:31,200 the city of Sedalia, Missouri. >> Second reading. 290 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:37,280 » Got a motion and a second for the second reading of bill number 2026-103. 291 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,320 Any objections? All in favor? 292 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:44,120 » I am in favor. >> Any opposed? 293 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:48,920 » Bill number 2026-103. An ordinance levying providing for the 294 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:53,160 collection of taxes for the year 2026 in the city of Sedalia, Missouri. 295 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,600 » Final passage. >> Second. 296 00:26:54,160 --> 00:27:02,880 » I got a motion and a second for the final passage of bill number 2026-103. 297 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:06,600 Is there any further objections? All in favor? 298 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,720 » Nope, we need to do roll call now, sir. >> Roll call. 299 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,640 » Ames. >> Yes. 300 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:15,440 » Scribner. >> Yes. 301 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:17,880 » Bogus. >> Yes. 302 00:27:18,173 --> 00:27:21,400 » [clears throat and cough] >> Covington. 303 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:21,400 » No. 304 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,520 » Cross. >> Yes. 305 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,240 » Radford. >> No. 306 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:32,160 » Franklin. >> Yes. 307 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:35,480 » And Robinson is absent. >> Honestly, we have enough growth in 308 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:39,320 Sedalia going on that I don't think we need to increase anything, but I'm just 309 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:43,120 going to say that across the board. We have Chick-fil-A and all these other 310 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:46,520 companies and businesses and building going on. 311 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:50,680 I think that's crazy that you guys are willing to 312 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,680 up it. 313 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,800 » Yeah, and I totally agree with you on that. You know, people are on set 314 00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:58,280 incomes. I agree with what the what the public is 315 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,800 saying. It's going to affect everybody sitting 316 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:04,800 up here, you know, so we have to really think about that long and hard, you 317 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,720 know, so piggybacking off of what Councilman 318 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,680 Radford just said, we got businesses that are coming in in 319 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,280 here and we can 320 00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:17,520 we can piggyback off of what what they're bringing in. What are we getting 321 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:20,440 from like such as Chick-fil-A? What what are the 322 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:25,160 what I could say is the kickback we're getting from QT that's coming in 323 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,920 QuickTrip, you know, QuickTrip and Chick-fil-A. So, those are things we 324 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:32,280 have to take into consideration and look at that before we want to even raise 325 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:37,280 anybody's at all because that affects not just the citizens, but it affects 326 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:40,920 everybody here. >> And obviously the school district knows 327 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:44,600 the fact that they don't need to raise taxes. 328 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:50,520 So, I mean, I don't understand why 1 2 3 4 5 329 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:53,280 are voting yes. If 330 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:56,320 my Nobody likes to see your taxes raised, but that's what the city runs 331 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,520 off of taxes. >> But we're still going to get the same 332 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,560 amount. >> Yeah, we're still going to get the 333 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:06,250 raise. Without the raise, that number's not going up. It's not like we're going 334 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,320 to get 1.8 million now. >> [snorts] 335 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,840 » It's the same. >> Basically, that's what the city is run 336 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:13,800 by tax tax tax >> Yeah, and 337 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:16,200 the businesses and everything coming in increase that. 338 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:21,360 » Yeah, when you have your business, that increases you. 339 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,360 » And that's pretty common. 340 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:36,560 » So my question becomes one in which if we do not pass this, what are the 341 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:42,840 repercussions from that? What is the upside downside from that? 342 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:47,360 » If you don't If you don't establish a tax levy, you do not collect that money. 343 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:52,800 » Okay. >> So you would have a loss in revenue 344 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:56,040 uh in the budget of a minimum of 1.6 million dollars. 345 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:58,840 » So they're saying basically if we don't increase it, we get zero. 346 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:04,760 » Yeah. So the what the 347 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:10,320 going back so if you establish the tax levy at .4996, 348 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:15,360 the properties that exist now, the revenue will be the same as last year. 349 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:19,480 On those properties. If because that's what the the state 350 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:26,600 sends us. If you chose to go and keep it the same, 351 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:32,080 we would have a decrease in that that portion of the revenue in the existing 352 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:37,360 property revenue. Is what is what those 353 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:40,240 those choices are. Does that make sense? 354 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:46,480 » What you say Say the part you we're losing what now? 355 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:51,040 » So what part are we losing if you chose to 356 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:56,880 stay at the current assessed valuation and we'll have to look at the make sure 357 00:30:52,920 --> 00:31:01,200 that that is legal because what we are given is from the state auditor. 358 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:05,880 I mean this is what we're given as information to do. 359 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:11,600 Um then you would have you would have less than 360 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:18,840 1.6 million come in from current. Now again, there is new property so that 361 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:23,200 revenue since we don't know it that that's difficult to calculate. I 362 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:29,400 can't tell you you know there's there's going to be X number of dollars 363 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:34,120 in new uh new revenue from additional properties 364 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:37,200 that have been built. Does that make sense? 365 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:43,600 » Yeah, I understand it now. Yeah, thanks. >> So then my question becomes 366 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:47,440 if we say no to this do we have enough time to get in touch with the state 367 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:52,400 auditor which is saying this is what you need to do? 368 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:57,600 Do we have enough time to find out by voting no, we don't want to do this 369 00:31:55,240 --> 00:32:01,080 are there legal repercussions coming to us from the state? 370 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:04,720 » Well we could I don't know if I would say legal 371 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:07,960 repercussions. Um 372 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:13,360 we could just see about amending it is what I would I would say we would do. 373 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:18,080 If you want to establish the rates, you would direct staff to to establish the 374 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:22,600 current rates, research it and we can try to put together numbers on it and 375 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:27,280 how much the difference in your revenue will be. 376 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:33,560 So the the state establishes a ceiling of how much can increase and so that's 377 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:39,240 what that the figures are based on that they send to us is that ceiling because 378 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:41,400 you're only allowed to increase so much. >> Mhm. 379 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,720 » Well, is that a step in which we want to do because 380 00:32:45,677 --> 00:32:50,400 » [clears throat] >> one of the individuals that spoke 381 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:53,520 spoke of one thing that that I've been saying for many years. Why am I paying 382 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,920 school taxes? I don't have anybody in school. 383 00:32:55,000 --> 00:33:00,960 But that's one of the higher taxes on the tax bill that we're paying. 384 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:05,680 I still have to pay it even though I don't have anybody in there. So perhaps 385 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:12,640 that's where we might want to go is to direct staff to find out if we do not 386 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:16,480 agree with the state on this increase, what will then happen and what is our 387 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:21,360 next step? >> I would I would definitely encourage you 388 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:28,400 to pass at least something because you don't want the the the budget includes 389 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:32,920 that revenue for this year and that would be a significant issue 390 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:38,040 not having that revenue. It'd be a significant issue for things like the 391 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:44,240 library and the pension fund who and the parks that rely heavily on those 392 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:50,720 property taxes to operate their budgets. Uh so we want to pass something. So if 393 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:55,920 you want to direct staff to find that out and then we can get a meeting again 394 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:58,920 as quick as possible to make sure that we 395 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:02,320 get this done by September 1st. >> Okay. Because the pension funds that 396 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:07,120 we're we're talking about, that's the firemen and the police pension funds. 397 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:12,280 » They are [clears throat] they are those unfortunately as time has gone by 398 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:16,240 when those were established, they could pay for the pensions in those 399 00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:20,919 days, but they have been around for so long that we have to supplement it with 400 00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:24,639 general revenue to pay those pension funds. 401 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:29,480 But yes, those do pay significant portions of the police and fire pension 402 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:35,480 and if you did not pass that, you would lose the ability to pay that portion of 403 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,480 their pension funds. 404 00:34:37,240 --> 00:34:40,000 » It's not like they're It's not like they're leaving us with no options. 405 00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:43,480 That's what they're making it sound like. So, there's no option. We got to 406 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:47,440 pass something. Well, which just don't sound fair. 407 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:51,280 » But But the bad thing about this whole situation, right? Like Like we don't 408 00:34:49,399 --> 00:34:55,080 have enough time to assess how much growth will affect us in the 409 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,680 whole year. >> We don't 410 00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:02,880 » Like from all of the new builds, all the houses that been built. And I know that 411 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:06,160 in until a house is completed, you can't collect taxes on something that's 412 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:09,840 incomplete. So, and we have so many in the pike of being 413 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:13,880 built, right? And then we have so many companies that we can't anticipate what 414 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:16,160 the growth will be for this upcoming year. 415 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:19,840 » You also have to look at the other side of that is how many of those companies 416 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:23,400 might not be here by the end of the year. You know, how many companies that 417 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,120 are here now might not be here next year. 418 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,520 » Well, by September, it's going to be impossible 419 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,400 » Yeah, we're not going to >> It's going to be impossible to make an 420 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:33,680 assessment by then. So, >> I mean, is there Is there an option to 421 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:37,240 amend it back down to a lower rate, or would we have to amend up to the other 422 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:41,720 rate, and is there even a legal option to do? 423 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:46,960 » That I I don't know the legalities of it, and I I have ideas, but I hate I 424 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:50,840 would be making assumptions that I don't want to publicly make. 425 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:56,320 So, I would rather I would rather speak to legal about that, 426 00:35:53,480 --> 00:36:00,640 um, and check it out before we I I make a 427 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:06,080 a solid opinion on that. So, >> we have less than or would have less 428 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:10,320 than 2 weeks to come back. >> We We should be able to figure it out. 429 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:14,960 It's just that when when I read a a line that says current 430 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:20,320 year rate computed, uh, pursuant to Article X, Section 22 of 431 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:25,160 the Missouri Constitution, I don't I don't want to mess around with 432 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:29,880 that, just to be blunt. So, I want to make sure that it is okay to amend it 433 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:34,720 back under that because we we are a taxing 434 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:37,560 jurisdiction, but we are a different taxing jurisdiction than the school 435 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:41,640 district. So, we just want to make sure that we 436 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:49,000 align those figures correctly as opposed to what the the auditor sent 437 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:54,560 us. So, we can check that out. Just direct staff on if you're if cuz what 438 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:59,560 I'm think I'm hearing and I'm making an assumption this is that 439 00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:03,960 you're discussing the idea of leaving the current levy the same. 440 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:10,560 » Correct. >> So, we can see that. Now, that will 441 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:15,080 reduce the current assessed amount that 1.6. It would lower that 442 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:21,360 amount. What you're What you're looking at then 443 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,360 is is that growth would cover 444 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:28,600 I guess any increases or loss if you will. 445 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,600 » Yes, the loss of that. 446 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,960 I just I hate to bet on something without 447 00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:37,400 having a number. We're betting that these companies are going to make the 448 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:40,160 money and produce it, but we cannot guarantee that. 449 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:43,680 It's It's >> Chick-fil-A alone 450 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:48,920 I can tell you what I got. Yeah. >> I mean, QuickTrip alone by themselves. 451 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:52,360 » And but when you're looking at when QuickTrip comes, the two other gas 452 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,560 stations stop. You got to look at it on that type of 453 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,720 stuff. >> You So, the 454 00:37:55,040 --> 00:38:00,360 » Their evaluations obviously going to be a lot less. 455 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:06,360 » So, and and when we talk about the percentage of what revenue is up and 456 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:13,200 Jessica provides those that information. And say for example, she says it's 6% 457 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:18,760 up, but our budget was set at three percent. So, it's not above that. It's 458 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:23,840 that's the total growth if that makes sense. Now, that that averages out 459 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:30,280 because if you look at those numbers when we provide when we provide the 460 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:37,360 revenue not all of them are at that rate and some of them may show 24% because 461 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:42,480 it's a smaller dollar amount. So when you look at those a lot of times it's 462 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:47,000 best and what I look at is the total growth. What is the actual dollar amount 463 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:52,040 that things are increasing because that's that's what you're going to see 464 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:57,640 when you see budget decisions and if you remember back to 465 00:38:54,640 --> 00:39:04,360 the decision tree we look at percentages but ultimately we look at the dollar 466 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:09,000 amount that we have um to make decisions on. You know we don't look at it as X 467 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:14,680 number of percent we look at it as here's a million dollars in this fund 468 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:18,600 how many how much of our services can we provide with that million dollars. 469 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:23,680 » Just last budget session we didn't have enough in the budget to provide the 470 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:29,240 raises that we all wanted to give. And I know this is 471 00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:34,240 » Mr. Harris what was the total growth so far this year 472 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,840 on properties? >> The total 473 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,760 valuation >> 80 million 474 00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:42,480 or something like that. >> The total property valuation like you 475 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:47,200 can start >> Yeah yeah. 476 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:48,440 » It's 60 million but that is we >> Yeah yeah. 477 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:52,080 » Right. >> Well I yeah I understand that. 478 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,640 » But that was just the halfway mark right? 479 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:59,640 » Yeah. >> So that that 60 million remember the 480 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,040 assessed valuation is less than that right? 481 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:05,880 » I was just >> Yeah that's fine. 482 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:09,880 Sure sure. >> Is this just 483 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:14,120 » Do you know any projected for the rest of the year? 484 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,120 » No. 485 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,040 » Yeah. 486 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:22,040 » It'll be competitive as far as like that's what he was. 487 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:25,560 » Okay. >> So, I got a I got a question on 488 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:29,480 something. I mean, can we kind of keep the budget where 489 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:34,360 could possibly sustain itself if we can target like uh 490 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:37,760 reducing or keeping it capped at people who are that are seniors, low 491 00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:41,920 income, that we know that we're tracking, who financially don't have the 492 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:45,760 means for the the increase, and just kind of put the burden on the ones that 493 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:52,240 financially can >> So, the So, the city can't change the 494 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:56,360 collection of property taxes or who is >> No, I mean, like prorate it where we can 495 00:40:54,200 --> 00:41:00,680 adjust it where it accommodates everybody. 496 00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:01,720 » The personal pro- or uh real estate taxes? 497 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:08,040 » Yeah. >> No, real estate taxes are uh are are are 498 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:12,240 assessed. The Now, uh people of a certain age can get lock 499 00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:17,320 in there, uh and I'm blanking on the name of that 500 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:23,320 program. Um where a person of a certain age uh can lock in their their uh real 501 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:28,400 estate taxes for the rest of their life on that property. 502 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:32,320 Um and I apologize I'm blanking on that. Um 503 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:36,520 because we do get a calculation on that each year 504 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:41,200 um because it is reducing the amount of tax that uh 505 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:45,080 property tax that we are receiving. And I it was several thousand dollars 506 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,360 this year, and each year it's increasing. 507 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:52,080 Um and we'll see that affect real estate 508 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:58,920 taxes over the years because those folks that apply for that program do have 509 00:41:54,360 --> 00:42:04,400 their real estate taxes uh locked in. So, it it and it does lock it in, I 510 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:08,520 believe, for life. >> Is it possible for us to get the answers 511 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:13,480 that we're looking for or that we're discussing now? Is Is possible for us to 512 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:18,080 get those, have them back, and be able to reconvene by, let's say, Wednesday, a 513 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:21,440 week from today? >> 1? 514 00:42:19,240 --> 00:42:24,720 » Before September 1. Before September 1. >> Yeah, there there are some of the 515 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:29,240 questions that you've asked though that I don't know that we can predict, and 516 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:33,640 that's the that's the the biggest >> predictions. I want us to be able to 517 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:37,840 contact the state because the state is the one that's saying this is where we 518 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:41,440 got to be at. So, I just want us to be able to contact the state and say, 519 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:45,200 "Okay, this is what we're looking at. This is what we're thinking about. Can 520 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:50,200 we legally do that?" >> Mhm. 521 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:54,360 Yes, we can do that. Yes. >> Is um 522 00:42:51,400 --> 00:43:00,080 the council in agreement to directing the staff to get with the state in this 523 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:03,760 regard to find out whether or not we can legally 524 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:08,320 do what we're asking, which is to stay where we are rather than increase, and 525 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:12,000 after we have that answer, come back in another meeting and make a vote? 526 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,920 » Yeah. >> Yeah, I'm in agreement on that. 527 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:18,840 » Yeah, we're good. >> Do you want to put it to a roll call? 528 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,960 » You will have to have a motion and a second to do that. 529 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,800 » Okay, so I make that motion. >> I second. 530 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:27,080 » We got a motion and a second, so we're just going to go to roll call on that 531 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,480 vote? >> Hold on just a second. And you're 532 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:34,040 wanting to bring this back >> for Wednesday? 533 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,040 » for next week? 534 00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:37,840 Next Wednesday? Same time? >> Mhm. 535 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,320 » Yeah. >> I'll make it work. 536 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,600 » Okay. And you 537 00:43:41,995 --> 00:43:46,880 » [clears throat] >> you want to you want to roll call, Mr. 538 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,880 Mayor? 539 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:54,600 » Okay. Roll call, please. >> Robinson [snorts] is absent. Ames? 540 00:43:52,720 --> 00:43:57,280 » Yes. >> Scribner? 541 00:43:55,480 --> 00:44:00,400 » Yes. >> Burgess? 542 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,400 » Yes. 543 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,240 » Covington? >> Yes. 544 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,640 » Cross? >> Yes. 545 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,320 » Radford? >> Yes. 546 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,400 » Franklin? >> Yes. 547 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:17,480 » Okay, you >> You have seven yeses and one absence. 548 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:20,040 » So, we'll motion to adjourn. And table this to Wednesday. 549 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,320 » Yeah. Say yes. 550 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,800 Didn't 551 00:44:25,240 --> 00:44:33,040 We didn't have a motion to >> No. 552 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:37,360 Now, the taxes, they go to each entity or not? 553 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,360 » Okay. 554 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,440 » No, we can't say. 555 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,080 Well, 556 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:52,560 it would all depend on the state of their evaluation went up. 557 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,960 » This is what the state is >> So, since we don't know what their 558 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,640 evaluation went up, >> You all should have 559 00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:03,960 » We know that some people's valuation went 560 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:08,000 So, I can't say what the average person is going to pay. 561 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:11,720 You know, mine may have gone value of my property may have gone down, so I'll 562 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:16,040 actually pay less taxes. And yours went up, 563 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:20,560 so you may pay more. So, it all we can say is is that 564 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:26,320 that per per $100 of assessed that it assessed 565 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:31,000 value, yours went up that amount. >> Well, I would say though that 566 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:36,480 the average the person would have to pay 567 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,480 would not have to pay over $100.