1 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:38,879 It is August 26th, 2026 and at 6 p.m. I'll call this meeting to order. Will 2 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:44,079 you please stand and do the pledge of allegiance with us? 3 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:49,680 » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 4 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:56,039 republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 5 00:00:52,480 --> 00:00:56,039 justice for all. 6 00:00:58,399 --> 00:01:02,800 » All right, we'll start with roll call. Councilman Caul, 7 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,879 » here. >> Councilman Ly 8 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,880 » here. >> Councilman Henderson, 9 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,799 » here. >> Councilman Labbaka, 10 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,799 » present. >> Councilman Cox, 11 00:01:10,159 --> 00:01:12,640 » here. >> Councilman D. Young, 12 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,640 » present. >> And Councilwoman Peterson, 13 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:21,920 » present. Do I have an approval for the agenda? 14 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,680 » Madam Mayor, I'll make a motion to approve the agenda. 15 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,520 » Second. >> Oh. Oh. Ty. [laughter] 16 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:32,159 » All right. We have a motion to approve the agenda by Councilman Lvaka, seconded 17 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,479 by Councilwoman Peterson. All those in favor signify by saying I. 18 00:01:34,159 --> 00:01:39,920 » I. >> Any oppose? Same sign. 19 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:44,320 » Motion passes. And before I do the consent agenda, I'm going to pass it to 20 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:49,280 Bill. >> Thank you. I had just had one 21 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:54,880 clarification. So, um our surplus property u uh item in the consent 22 00:01:51,680 --> 00:02:00,399 agenda, the resolution number that's in the uh cover page is correct and uh only 23 00:01:58,159 --> 00:02:06,479 the placeholder resolution numbers on the actual resolution, but uh it has 24 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:10,920 been corrected now and it is resolution um 11 193-26. 25 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:19,879 » Okay. Thank you very much. So, with that, I'd be looking for a motion to 26 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,879 approve the consent agenda. 27 00:02:19,920 --> 00:02:25,599 » A motion to approve. Second. >> All right. We have a motion by 28 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:30,160 Councilman Henderson, seconded by Councilman D. Young. Um, all those in 29 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:33,280 favor signify by saying I. >> I. 30 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:38,800 » Any oppose? Same sign. >> Motion passes. 31 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:46,040 All right. We will begin with a swearing in. Sabrina. So, would you like to come 32 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,040 forward up here? 33 00:03:16,640 --> 00:03:22,400 All right. Will you raise your right hand and repeat after me? I, Zabrina 34 00:03:21,599 --> 00:03:25,040 Nybo, >> I, Sabrina Nybo, 35 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:28,000 » do hereby declare >> do hereby declare 36 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,720 » that I will support the Constitution of the United States 37 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,120 » that I will support the Constitution of the United States 38 00:03:31,599 --> 00:03:36,159 » the Constitution of the State of Washington 39 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:38,640 » the constit constitution of the state of Washington 40 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:44,120 » and that as a member >> and that as a member 41 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:44,120 » of the city of Cedar Willy fired 42 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:49,680 » of this >> well let's do um let's not do the city 43 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:53,120 of Cedar let's do The city of Cedar Willy Police 44 00:03:52,239 --> 00:03:57,360 Department. >> City of Cedar Willy Police Department. 45 00:03:55,200 --> 00:04:00,560 » Okay. My fundamental duty >> My fundamental duty 46 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,640 » is to serve the people I swear to protect 47 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:05,519 » is to serve the people I serve to protect. 48 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:08,720 » To safeguard and preserve life. >> To safeguard and preserve life. 49 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:12,080 » Health and property >> health and property 50 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:14,959 » against fire and other perils >> against fire and other perils. 51 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:19,040 » And to maintain >> And to maintain 52 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:22,720 » a proficiency in the police service. of proficiency in the police service. 53 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,880 » I recognize the badge >> I recognize the badge 54 00:04:23,919 --> 00:04:26,880 » of my office >> of my office 55 00:04:25,759 --> 00:04:28,880 » as a symbol >> as a symbol 56 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,560 » of public faith >> of public faith 57 00:04:29,840 --> 00:04:32,320 » and trust >> and trust 58 00:04:31,280 --> 00:04:34,639 » and I accept >> and I accept 59 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:38,960 » so long as I am true >> so long as I am true 60 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:42,800 » to the ethics of the police service >> to the ethics of the police service 61 00:04:41,199 --> 00:04:44,960 » and make these promises >> and make these promises 62 00:04:43,919 --> 00:04:46,479 » so solemnly >> so solemnly 63 00:04:45,919 --> 00:04:49,520 » freely >> freely 64 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,800 » and upon my honor upon my honor. >> Welcome. 65 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,153 » Thank you. >> Thank you very much. [applause] 66 00:05:10,639 --> 00:05:18,960 » All right. Now, we'll start with the city administrator report. Uh 67 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,960 » yes, no report this evening. 68 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:28,639 And moving on to council member report. Councilman 69 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:34,639 » Thank you. Um I attended the public works open house here right in this room 70 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:39,199 and I learned a lot more about projects including the city projects and the 71 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:43,840 three more roundabouts planned for Cook Road. I also attended the second concert 72 00:05:41,840 --> 00:05:48,639 in the park at the Swift Center. Really good attendance, excellent music. The 73 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:53,199 third of these concerts put on by the Swift Center Foundation is with the 74 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:58,160 Scadget Symphony on September 12th, which should be great. I was also 75 00:05:55,919 --> 00:06:03,520 delighted to see via an announcement on Facebook of the new school resource 76 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:10,000 officer, Rachel Hamburgg. That should make uh our schools safer. Also, kudos 77 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:15,280 to the police department with several very difficult cases, including taking a 78 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:20,720 murder suspect from Oregon into custody. I know that was an easy situation after 79 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:25,440 a standoff and uh resolving a million-doll fraud case. Really good 80 00:06:22,639 --> 00:06:30,840 work. Also, school starts next week, so watch out for children. You should try. 81 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,840 Thank you, 82 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,080 » Councilman Ly. 83 00:06:35,199 --> 00:06:42,720 » Last weekend, we had our annual what do they call those things with the 84 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:45,520 little wheels on them? Anyway, I'm gonna let Carl tell you about it 85 00:06:43,919 --> 00:06:50,400 because Carl talked to everybody that was there, but it was a successful 86 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:53,199 weekend and I don't how many we ever figure out how many we've had? 87 00:06:51,759 --> 00:06:59,440 » Yeah, we had over a hundred people participate and uh the bleachers were 88 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:03,039 packed. It was standing room only and uh yeah, we'll keep talking about it. Great 89 00:07:01,280 --> 00:07:09,919 event, Kevin. >> Good time was had by all 90 00:07:05,919 --> 00:07:12,800 we might as well say and provided. Was was that you that bought the pizza, 91 00:07:11,199 --> 00:07:17,520 Charlie? >> Um, yeah, this the uh Hidden Wave 92 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:21,440 actually bought the purchased the pizza. Um, but the city is going to reimburse 93 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:28,479 them for that. >> And then Nick bought a couple couple 94 00:07:25,039 --> 00:07:32,880 cases full of drinks. What else? Somebody else 95 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:36,960 provided something. >> Well, we had the mayor in attendance and 96 00:07:34,319 --> 00:07:40,880 I brought some chips and uh, you know, it's just stone soup. Everyone wanted to 97 00:07:39,039 --> 00:07:44,560 come by and really wanted to give a shout out to the fire department for 98 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:46,560 being there to uh staff a booth and talk safety and be there in case there was an 99 00:07:46,319 --> 00:07:50,560 incident. >> And they provided helmets. 100 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:54,000 » That's right. That's right. >> For free. 101 00:07:52,319 --> 00:07:58,800 » Good time was had by all and we kind of made it up as we went along. 102 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:02,879 » Perfect. Thank you, Councilman Henderson. 103 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:08,400 » Thank you, Mayor. I'd like to start by uh welcoming Officer Nibbo to uh our 104 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:12,000 police department. That's a a great uh role to fill. She did a great job out in 105 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:18,000 Manacortis and I know she she's going to do a great job out here. Uh I'd love to 106 00:08:14,319 --> 00:08:22,400 see that. Um last week I had the opportunity of attending the uh grand 107 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:27,440 reopening of the senior center. It was a really great event. Uh a lot of people 108 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:34,000 in attendance. The cake was fantastic. Um and uh I was honored to be uh asked 109 00:08:30,879 --> 00:08:39,039 to give a few words at that uh ceremony. Um it was nice to see uh Councilman Cox 110 00:08:37,519 --> 00:08:42,399 and Councilman D. Young who's always there every Monday washing dishes in 111 00:08:41,279 --> 00:08:48,959 case anybody else wants to help volunteer too. Um alongside of the mayor 112 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:52,880 and uh Charlie Bush and Nate Salcino were both there and they were both 113 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:58,160 recognized for their efforts in uh the opening of uh the senior center and us 114 00:08:55,839 --> 00:09:00,959 getting that stood up. So uh great to see that here in our community. Thank 115 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:06,000 you. >> Thank you. All right, Councilman Lvaka. 116 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:09,360 » Thank you very much, Madam Mayor. Um, so on that note, I wanted to touch base on 117 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:13,040 the senior center. I wasn't able to attend that, but since then, I've heard 118 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:17,440 um from a lot of the people that were very eager to see that stood up and and 119 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:20,399 protected. We're very excited about what we've done, what you guys have really 120 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:24,880 done, what Charlie, you have done, and and the um the city. So, it's just a 121 00:09:23,279 --> 00:09:28,880 major blessing to them, and they do want that to be continually expressed to the 122 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:32,800 city. Um, we are very stoked that we have a safety resource officer for the 123 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:36,560 the high school. Um, I've gotten really good feedback about that. Great timing 124 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:40,720 on that and and it'll be a great time to to see how that works out over this next 125 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:44,160 year and years to come. Um, and how that integrates with the students, but from 126 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:47,839 what I heard from a number of the students is they're looking forward to 127 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:54,920 it actually. Um, so that's really great. Uh, that's that's about it. Thank you. 128 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,920 » Perfect. Councilman Cox, 129 00:09:56,399 --> 00:10:03,120 » just a busy time. Oh my goodness. So, so great. I I want to uh talk to my council 130 00:10:01,279 --> 00:10:09,839 members here. Mentioning them again. The log jam was great. I brought my kids and 131 00:10:05,680 --> 00:10:14,079 to see the interaction of the skaters, uh, everyone that was in charge of, uh, 132 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:18,240 actually putting it on. I I really don't think you just did it by by whim. I 133 00:10:16,399 --> 00:10:22,079 think you did a great job, Kevin. Uh it's something that we'll continue to uh 134 00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:26,399 visit because it was wonderful. I have an 11 and 12-year-old. I saw so many 135 00:10:24,079 --> 00:10:29,600 kids. They they saw friends. Uh and for us personally, that's exactly what I 136 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:33,600 talk about when we're bringing people into our city and we're doing it. It's 137 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:37,200 free. I kept wondering where do I put the money when I was grabbing a slice of 138 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:40,320 pizza. So, thank you for feeding my family as well. So, that was a wonderful 139 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:44,240 thing. We also got a little bit out of that um with some uh minor repairs that 140 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:48,640 we're going to do to the park. So through that we were able to you know 141 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:54,000 better our our environment. I wanted to mention the senior center too as a kid 142 00:10:50,959 --> 00:10:59,200 that grew up uh being raised by lots of seniors and being around seniors most of 143 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:02,160 my life. Uh invaluable. So thank you for supporting them. I mean that's a huge 144 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:06,399 thing. There's so much we can learn from our our peers and those that have been 145 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:10,079 here before us. So I really really really enjoyed that. So thank you. Uh 146 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:13,279 other things too just mentioning end of summer school starting. I've been to the 147 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:17,040 Cascade Middle School. excited to see all the kids, the teachers, the 148 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:20,720 resources are great. So, it's very fun for me as a parent uh to see that 149 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:24,399 there's some support going on for those kids. Uh and please, please, anyone 150 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:29,279 watching, pay attention. There's new roundabouts, new roads. Uh we really 151 00:11:26,399 --> 00:11:34,320 need to uh make sure they're safe. Okay. Uh the other thing, too, is uh the 152 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:39,120 resource officer. I same thing. Boy, we're investing in our kids and our 153 00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:43,839 community. So, let's continue to support these things. I'm enjoying it. Uh, and 154 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:46,560 again, I keep saying that, but just thank you for so much. It's a great I 155 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:51,360 think this is a great week. We're really going into the next season, fall, in a 156 00:11:49,279 --> 00:11:56,000 good way. Our city is healthy. The concerts are uh definitely coming back. 157 00:11:54,079 --> 00:11:59,120 They're so great. But just uh thank you guys for for those of you that come to 158 00:11:57,519 --> 00:12:02,880 join, for those of you online, thank you for joining it. And please share this 159 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:06,560 with your uh family and friends because uh we want this to be a livable city. 160 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:11,360 That's all. Mayor, >> thank you, Councilman D. Young. Thank 161 00:12:09,680 --> 00:12:16,639 you, Madam Mayor. Uh, since our last meeting, just a few things to report. 162 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:22,399 Uh, we held the Cedro Woolly log jam at the skate park. Uh, that's been me 163 00:12:19,519 --> 00:12:29,760 mentioned. And, uh, I did want to tell one quick story about, uh, a dad who, 164 00:12:27,519 --> 00:12:33,760 uh, put his daughter on a skateboard for the first time there. And I was able to 165 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:40,959 capture that moment with the permission and with photograph. But then to dive a 166 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:46,639 little deeper into the story, he was was skateboarding the first day it 167 00:12:43,519 --> 00:12:51,200 opened. And so uh I just thought that was just wonderful that we've seen that 168 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:55,920 sustainability and that continuity and uh watch it uh happen uh handed down 169 00:12:54,079 --> 00:12:59,040 generation to generation. And that's really what happens at this event is 170 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:04,560 bringing families together. It's kid-friendly event and it really anchors 171 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:08,399 the community. And I really think it's uh I just want to thank thank Kevin for 172 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:13,760 all the hard work he's put into that uh year after year. And um the hard work 173 00:13:11,680 --> 00:13:19,839 the city puts together uh Charlie who facilitates uh our meetings. It as you 174 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:23,760 say it it looks smooth but that takes a lot of planning and a lot of people and 175 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:30,320 a lot of passionate people and and you know it's done by volunteers and uh from 176 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:37,040 from the poster to uh the the music that's played um the the microphones uh 177 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:41,680 you know it's just it's just a great way of having the community get together and 178 00:13:39,279 --> 00:13:45,920 happy to be part of it. Uh we met again this morning for the event debrief with 179 00:13:43,680 --> 00:13:49,680 uh while everything was still fresh and the conversation was really about 180 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:53,200 keeping what worked uh fixing what needs improvement. Uh they already got the 181 00:13:51,279 --> 00:13:56,959 potholes fixed that uh we took photographs of so thank you for that and 182 00:13:55,360 --> 00:14:01,760 then we also talked about what to do with the coping there and then making 183 00:13:59,199 --> 00:14:07,600 next year's event just a little easier uh for everyone involved. Um then uh as 184 00:14:05,519 --> 00:14:13,120 a representative on the board for Scadget Transit, I began the onboarding 185 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:19,519 process on on August 18th. We covered governance, finance, operations, 186 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:23,920 planning, and um some of the responsibilities that come with 187 00:14:21,279 --> 00:14:28,639 representing Cedar Woolly on the board. Uh there's more to cover, so that work 188 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:35,760 will continue on boarding in September. I also uh participated um in the Scadget 189 00:14:33,199 --> 00:14:40,320 Transit meeting uh on the 19th. Uh the board worked through the transit 190 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:47,040 development plan uh community advisory appointments uh fair free service for an 191 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:53,360 upcoming event and proposed bylaws. So, the bylaws were held uh over for some 192 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:57,760 additional review and uh Scadget Transit uh council has invited input from board 193 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:01,360 members before they come back to us and I appreciate having the opportunity to 194 00:14:59,519 --> 00:15:05,760 work through those governance questions carefully. Uh looking ahead, I'll be at 195 00:15:03,839 --> 00:15:09,920 the Chamber of Commerce uh lunchon next week or next Wednesday. always value the 196 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:14,800 opportunity to hear directly from the local businesses uh community and stay 197 00:15:12,639 --> 00:15:19,120 connected with what they're seeing and experiencing here in Cedar Woolly. And 198 00:15:17,199 --> 00:15:24,880 of course, Labor Day is coming up on Monday the 7th. Uh there'll be many 199 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:30,880 Labor Day activities. Uh I encourage you to participate. Uh Labor Day is worth 200 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:35,680 more than simply uh marking the end of the summer. It's an opportunity to 201 00:15:32,959 --> 00:15:40,240 recognize the people whose work uh builds our communities uh keeps them 202 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:44,880 running and provides the service we all depend on. And I hope everyone has a 203 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:50,000 safe and enjoyable Labor Day weekend. That's it for me. 204 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:54,880 » Perfect. Councilwoman Peterson. >> Um Bill, you put on a really great open 205 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:58,399 house. I you know people are really interested in those road repairs and the 206 00:15:56,959 --> 00:16:03,680 different things that are happening with our transportation infrastructure and it 207 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:10,240 was great to see community members who have come to me asking questions to be 208 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:15,040 able to go directly to uh city city staff and wash dot staff to ask ask 209 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:20,480 those questions and get them answered. Everyone was really happy with the it 210 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:25,120 was just really impressive. Um, I also held a community event for W three. Um, 211 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:30,720 one of the participants called it a think tank, which I really liked. As 212 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:35,279 council members, we don't have any staff doing the research to inform our policy 213 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:39,839 decisions. So, it's really helpful to hear directly from constituents. Um, I 214 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:42,720 collected a lot of good feedback. I put it in a spreadsheet and emailed it out 215 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:48,720 to everyone who was willing to give me their email address. Uh the top issues 216 00:16:45,279 --> 00:16:54,399 were opposition to move moving the ball fields to the northern state recreation 217 00:16:51,120 --> 00:17:00,480 area, good strong community, um developing a future playground on 218 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:05,360 Reed Street, encouraging diversity and inclusivity in the community, road 219 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:10,079 repairs, which everyone learned about at the open house. Um prohibiting data 220 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:14,640 centers, which is actually something we're going to be addressing today. Um, 221 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:21,679 so that was a really good opportunity and I'd like to thank everyone who came 222 00:17:17,039 --> 00:17:27,679 and I'm excited to do it again. >> All right, perfect. 223 00:17:23,839 --> 00:17:31,039 So, thank you guys all for I'm always last and so you guys had really 224 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:36,320 wonderful things to say about everything going on in the community and I am 100% 225 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:40,799 in agreeance. So, I'm going to just go straight to um the opportunity that I 226 00:17:38,559 --> 00:17:45,360 had this week, which was to meet the amazing team at our journey and learn 227 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:50,400 more about the important work they are doing for youth in Scadget County. I'm 228 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:54,320 so grateful to Mr. and Mrs. Sanchez along with their mentors and staff for 229 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:59,039 the heart they put into supporting our young people through mentorship, lived 230 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:02,480 experience, and genuine connection. They are helping youth feel supported, find 231 00:18:00,799 --> 00:18:06,160 healing, and build a positive path forward. what they're doing for our 232 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:09,600 kiddos, their families, and our community is truly making a difference. 233 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:15,280 And for those of you who don't know, they're just right across the street, 234 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:24,000 right over here, doing good work. Um, so that's what I have for that. 235 00:18:19,120 --> 00:18:28,480 And, um, now we will move on. Be uh, let's see, before I read tonight's 236 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:34,320 proclamation, I want to take a moment to recognize Senator Keith Wagner, who 237 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:39,360 helped bring us to this important first step and uh George Baldridge American 238 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:43,679 Legion Post43 for collaborating with the city as we 239 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:51,240 begin this process of becoming a Purple Heart city. Uh we are also honored to 240 00:18:47,039 --> 00:18:51,240 welcome Robert Alz 241 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:58,400 Jr. uh the past national commander of the 242 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:03,280 military order of the purple heart of the USA. Uh most importantly, I want to 243 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:08,000 recognize the Purple Heart recipients who are with us along with all of our 244 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:13,520 veterans and everyone who came here tonight to show their support. Uh 245 00:19:10,559 --> 00:19:17,679 becoming a Purple Heart city is not an honor the city earns. It is our 246 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:22,799 commitment to honor those who have been awarded the Purple Heart through their 247 00:19:19,679 --> 00:19:29,600 sacrifice and service to our country. And with that, it is my honor to read 248 00:19:25,039 --> 00:19:35,520 the Purple Heart City Proclamation. So the city of Cedar Woolly's uh 249 00:19:32,559 --> 00:19:41,840 Washington proclamation in recognition of Cedar Woolly as a Purple Heart city. 250 00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:45,520 Whereas the city of Cedar Woolly has a proud and enduring tradition of 251 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:50,480 supporting members of the United States Armed Forces, our veterans and their 252 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:55,919 families who have served and sacrificed in defense of the freedoms enjoyed by 253 00:19:52,720 --> 00:20:00,240 everyday American. And whereas the Purple Heart Medal is the oldest 254 00:19:57,919 --> 00:20:05,679 military decoration in present use, originally created as 255 00:20:03,039 --> 00:20:11,200 the badge of military merit by General George Washington in 1782 256 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:16,720 and was the first award made available to the common soldier. And whereas the 257 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:21,840 Purple Heart Medal is awarded in the name of the President of the United 258 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:26,400 States to members of the armed forces of the United States who have been 259 00:20:23,919 --> 00:20:31,200 wounded in combat or who have made the ultimate sacrifice and given their lives 260 00:20:28,559 --> 00:20:36,240 in action against a declared enemy of the United States of America. And 261 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:42,159 whereas the mission of the military order of the Purple Heart is to foster 262 00:20:38,799 --> 00:20:47,039 an environment of goodwill among combat wounded veterans and their families, to 263 00:20:44,799 --> 00:20:51,520 promote patriotism, to support legislative initiatives, and to ensure 264 00:20:49,360 --> 00:20:57,600 that the sacrifices of our military service members are never forgotten. And 265 00:20:54,640 --> 00:21:03,760 whereas the city of Cedar Woolly is home to veterans of every era, including 266 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:10,240 combat wounded veterans and Purple Heart recipients, and recognizes the courage, 267 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:16,159 dedication, and selfless service represented by the Purple Heart Medal. 268 00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:21,840 And whereas National Purple Heart Day is observed annually on August 7th to honor 269 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:26,799 the brave men and women who have been wounded or killed while serving in the 270 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:32,480 United States military and to remember and honor all Purple Heart recipients. 271 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:37,679 And whereas the city of Cedar Woolly wishes to express its profound 272 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:42,240 appreciation, gratitude, and respect for all military veterans, combat veterans, 273 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:46,320 Purple Heart recipients, and the families who support them, and to 274 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:52,080 formally join the growing number of communities standing as Purple Heart 275 00:21:48,799 --> 00:21:56,880 cities. Now therefore, be it proclaimed that I, Joel and Casty, as mayor of the 276 00:21:54,720 --> 00:22:02,559 city of Cedar Woolly, do hereby recognize the city of Cedar Woolly as a 277 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:07,200 Purple Heart City, honoring the service and sacrifice of all members of the 278 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:12,000 United States Armed Forces who have been wounded or killed in combat and 279 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:17,039 recognizing all Purple Heart recipients, past, present, and future, together with 280 00:22:14,559 --> 00:22:21,760 the families who supported them. Be it further resolved that the city of Cedar 281 00:22:18,799 --> 00:22:26,320 Woolly calls upon its residents, businesses, schools, and civic 282 00:22:23,919 --> 00:22:31,200 organizations to recognize the contributions and sacrifices of Purple 283 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:36,159 Heart recipients and the courage they have shown in defense of our nation. 284 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:41,120 Observe National Purple Heart Day on August 7th each year throughout 285 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:46,159 appropriate ceremonies, educational programs, and acts of remembrance. 286 00:22:43,679 --> 00:22:51,200 support combat wounded veterans, their families, and gold star families through 287 00:22:48,799 --> 00:22:55,840 committee community engagement and service. Promote awareness of the 288 00:22:54,000 --> 00:23:00,880 history and meaning of the Purple Heart Medal among all generations of Cedar 289 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:05,760 Willy residents. Show all Purple Heart recipients the lasting honor, gratitude, 290 00:23:03,919 --> 00:23:12,320 and welcome they have earned in our community. Proclaimed by the mayor on 291 00:23:08,799 --> 00:23:15,720 the 26th day of August 2026, city of Cedar Woolly. 292 00:23:16,476 --> 00:23:18,496 [applause] 293 00:23:22,371 --> 00:23:24,391 [applause] 294 00:23:28,266 --> 00:23:30,286 » [applause] 295 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:37,799 » And with that, I invite um Robert to come forward. 296 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:51,200 » Bet you guys all thought Let me uh if you turn that one 297 00:23:48,559 --> 00:23:55,919 microphone around, the one in front. >> Yep. And then press the blue button. Um 298 00:23:53,679 --> 00:23:59,200 on behalf on behalf of the military or the Purple Heart, we'd like to say thank 299 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:04,240 you for appreciating our combat wounded veterans. There's actually we have 300 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:08,799 accounted for about a little over 16,000 here in Washington. Cedra Woolly. I went 301 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:13,760 through the books and you guys have five that are living. You have about 20 that 302 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:19,679 are deceased. As Scadget County accounts for a little over 120 total. Um I do not 303 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:23,520 live in Scadget County, but I grew up in Scadget County. I graduated from Mount 304 00:24:21,279 --> 00:24:29,039 Vernon back in the 90s, like my kids say, back in the 1900s. Um, but I am 305 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:33,200 actually the youngest person to date to run an organization. So, I represented 306 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:37,760 half a million combat wounded veterans all the way from the last guys of World 307 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:41,200 War II up until present. So, I got to meet both presidents, talk on our 308 00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:45,279 behalf. So, this this meant a lot for me. Actually, when you messaged 309 00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:49,760 National, which is our headquarters in DC, I got a phone call telling telling 310 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:53,840 them telling me that I was dropping the ball. I was like, I'm on vacation. Leave 311 00:24:51,679 --> 00:24:57,279 me alone. That's when I found out that you reached out. So, I appreciate it. I 312 00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:01,520 actually grew up in Mount Vernon, but I was born out in Woodby on the base. I do 313 00:24:58,799 --> 00:25:06,960 come from a military family. So, with that, um, our our organization, um, 314 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:10,799 appreciates you, um, honoring us. Um, I've been working at making all of 315 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:15,679 Washington cities and counties purple heart uh cities and counties. So, I'm 316 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:19,360 I'm happy to acknowledge that Cedra Woolly is the first one in Scadget 317 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:24,480 County. So, I've been talking to the Saga County Commissioners 318 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:29,360 uh working with them to get the county going and hopefully everybody will 319 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:33,360 follow suit and notice that Cedar Woolly is leading the way so I can get all the 320 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:38,159 towns here um just to honor our veterans. We don't ask for much, but one 321 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:42,400 little signage or a proclamation showing that you honor a combat wounded goes a 322 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:45,840 long way. It actually helps them out with their mental status. They actually 323 00:25:44,159 --> 00:25:49,760 see that they're probably helping the community and then they have to take 324 00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:55,520 next step to reaching out to either a veteran organization or to your law 325 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:58,480 enforcement agency who has train on how to deescalate and talk to people and try 326 00:25:57,120 --> 00:26:03,520 to bring them back what to what I call the ground level. So, we appreciate it. 327 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:08,240 On behalf of uh chapter 12, wait, we changed our name. The Pacific Northwest 328 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:13,600 chapter 12, uh we have a Purple Heart flag for you guys to fly every August 329 00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:17,039 7th to take up. Um and if you want a fancier one, we got the fancier ones. I 330 00:26:15,679 --> 00:26:21,760 just have these ones in the car because it's easier to carry a lighter flag. So, 331 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:26,440 um on behalf of all Purple Heart recipients, thank you. 332 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,440 » Thank you. 333 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,440 Mayor, could I interrupt? >> Yes. 334 00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:43,039 » Can Can we put some kind of plaque or something entering under entering town? 335 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:47,120 It says we're a Purple Heart City. >> That is such a good idea. 336 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:51,520 » So, I I did email your your your mayor here. 337 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:55,760 There there is signage that I authorized and I gave her authorization. um because 338 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:59,840 you need authorization to use our likeness which is our purple heart 339 00:26:57,279 --> 00:27:03,679 medal. So, she has an example of the signs that we have here in Washington 340 00:27:01,360 --> 00:27:08,000 that you guys can put wherever you want. City hall, most cities like to put them 341 00:27:05,919 --> 00:27:10,799 on the entrance as you're coming in. >> Yeah. 342 00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:15,120 » And which is really big for a lot of people. And also with this once I get 343 00:27:13,279 --> 00:27:20,000 your official proclamation emailed, I'll put it on our website, which is the 344 00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:24,480 Purple Heart Trail. So everybody who uh goes through it'll see that Cedar Woolly 345 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:29,520 is a Purple Heart friendly town and that's how we help you with tourism is 346 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:33,760 we actually have a lot of hits on our website to see people actually do look 347 00:27:31,679 --> 00:27:37,760 veterans actually do look to see who appreciates military and we're not 348 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:41,919 asking for discounts. It's just if we come here we'll know we're accepted 349 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:45,760 especially whichever era you fought in. So, it's a big thing for us and and 350 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:49,600 another thing for y'all to have new tourism when you when you guys put up 351 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:53,520 the signs and we put you guys up on our Purple Heart Trail. 352 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:56,960 » Thank you so much and thank you for your service. 353 00:27:54,799 --> 00:28:01,440 » Madam Mayor, if I may, on that note, too. Oh, go 354 00:27:57,679 --> 00:28:06,000 » one second. We will be um having a um a ceremony uh officially dedicating when 355 00:28:03,919 --> 00:28:12,640 the signs do come in and that is going to be planned uh in early November. So, 356 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:17,919 we will be able to do that. And um uh before I open it up to council for 357 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:26,039 everything, can I also be able I know um to have uh Senator Wagner come up as 358 00:28:20,399 --> 00:28:26,039 well um to say a few words. 359 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:34,720 » So um it's I played a very small piece in this, but I'm glad that you asked me 360 00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:39,360 to speak about it because I feel strongly about it. I went to a ceremony 361 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:44,880 in my in my legislative district in Granite Falls and I saw their ceremony 362 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:51,039 and I went, "Wow, this is something that fits with the community of Cedar Woolly 363 00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:55,520 and I pitched the idea to Mayor Casty because I knew the council would be 364 00:28:52,880 --> 00:29:00,080 behind her on this. I did not think you would move so quickly. I was thinking 365 00:28:57,679 --> 00:29:05,520 maybe six months or a year from now we would be doing this, but bam um almost 366 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:09,919 immediately. So, I'm really excited about it and I and I wanted to talk 367 00:29:07,679 --> 00:29:14,640 about at least one of the members and maybe Councilman Lvaka can go into it a 368 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:21,200 little more detail. Um, one of our Purple Heart members from town uh had 369 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:24,799 breakfast with Councilman Lvaka, Mayor Casty, and myself because he was so 370 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:29,200 excited about this, but he was going to be um he had a medical procedure and he 371 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:35,200 and his wife couldn't make it tonight. I hope they make the official one. So, 372 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:40,640 it's already inspiring people that that we're hoping to honor and I feel really 373 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:44,799 good about that. So, the the credit goes to the mayor and the council for getting 374 00:29:42,559 --> 00:29:51,720 this off the ground so quickly. I so appreciate all of you. Thank you. 375 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,720 » You um 376 00:29:53,039 --> 00:30:04,159 and and then on on the the spirit of this, a very special man, Tim Smith. uh 377 00:30:02,399 --> 00:30:08,039 made his own. Would you like to come up and speak about it before? 378 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:15,039 Handcarved. >> Yeah, I handcarved it. I had in my heart 379 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:20,279 to do this and for all my brothers and sisters that 380 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,279 earned it. 381 00:30:25,506 --> 00:30:27,526 [applause] 382 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,360 Thank you so much. >> Oh, you're very welcome. Wish I could do 383 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:40,320 more. >> Oh, you this. Thank you so much for this 384 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:44,880 because uh we are going to hang this up in city hall. It's going to be right 385 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:49,480 next to the proclamation and it is absolutely gorgeous. 386 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,480 » Thank you. 387 00:30:50,159 --> 00:30:52,880 » Very welcome. >> Thank you so much. 388 00:30:51,919 --> 00:30:58,039 » Yes, ma'am. >> Thank you. [applause] 389 00:30:55,039 --> 00:30:58,039 Sure. 390 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:12,000 » All right. And now we'll open it up. Council Labaka. 391 00:31:10,399 --> 00:31:15,360 » Thank you very much. Yeah. Trying to find the right time to to mention. I 392 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:20,080 didn't want to spoil it during the council report, but um my neighbor who's 393 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:24,240 become my good friend down the road on Ball Street. He's 86 years old. He 394 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:30,240 received a Purple Heart in Vietnam in the 178th and um he like Senator Wagner 395 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:36,720 mentioned he was really excited about the city taking in part in doing that 396 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:41,679 and seeing us really active and engaged for the the efforts and the sacrifice 397 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:46,320 that he and and many of the people that were with him gave. And so he wasn't 398 00:31:44,159 --> 00:31:50,480 able to make it. And I ended up calling up Senator Wagner and the mayor and 399 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:54,000 seeing, "Are you guys willing to come down for breakfast on short notice and 400 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:57,440 just have breakfast with them?" And you guys dropped everything and came down 401 00:31:55,519 --> 00:32:01,039 and had breakfast with him. I mean, really amazing that you were willing to 402 00:31:59,039 --> 00:32:05,679 do that. And it meant so much to him. I'm proud to report that he he made it 403 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:09,360 through the surgery just fine and um he did good. It was an invasive surgery, so 404 00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:12,000 it was a little bit difficult and we didn't know how it was going to go, but 405 00:32:10,399 --> 00:32:16,159 he seems like he's doing good right now. So, we'll see. And thank you both again. 406 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:20,799 Thank you for putting that together. He's an extraordinary man and I look 407 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:25,360 forward to seeing him in November at our ceremony. Uh I'll open it up to any 408 00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:30,480 other council members who might have any questions or anything. 409 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:34,080 » Councilman Henderson. >> Thank you, Madam Mayor. Um I just want 410 00:32:32,159 --> 00:32:38,799 to take a minute and recognize uh all all the additional people in the crowd 411 00:32:35,919 --> 00:32:45,120 that um support our veterans and Purple Heart members. I see we have um uh 412 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:50,640 George Baldridge uh post here. Um have many others. I recognize John Fernandez 413 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:56,320 there in the back. Thank you for your service, sir. And uh and everyone else 414 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:59,440 who uh who was a part of this. And that's the most beautiful hand carving 415 00:32:57,919 --> 00:33:04,200 I've ever seen. >> So, thank you very much for that. 416 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:11,279 » Councilwoman Peterson. >> Thank you, Tim. This is really amazing. 417 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:15,840 I've never seen anything like this before and I'm really looking forward to 418 00:33:13,039 --> 00:33:19,960 the ceremony in November. I'm hoping I can get that on my calendar soon. 419 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:27,440 » Councilman >> uh, first of all, wonderful carving. 420 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:32,480 Just it's beautiful. Thank you so much. And I don't think we can do enough to 421 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:39,679 help and support our veterans and our community. And the best of the best are 422 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:47,720 our Purple Heart recipients who gave everything just about for our country. 423 00:33:42,399 --> 00:33:47,720 So I la their patriotism. Thank you. 424 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:56,640 » Would it be inappropriate if I could get us to go down there and get a picture 425 00:33:54,720 --> 00:34:01,279 with everyone who's in here who came tonight to um do this? Could we could we 426 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,799 get a photograph of everyone? Would everyone be all right with that? 427 00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:14,839 He's got it. >> This one. 428 00:34:30,399 --> 00:34:34,119 » Get home and start practicing. 429 00:34:35,063 --> 00:34:37,083 » [clears throat] 430 00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:50,839 » Everybody >> come on. 431 00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:02,119 Everybody 432 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,694 » know. [laughter] 433 00:35:39,839 --> 00:35:43,960 They'll know when they get to see us 434 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,880 represents all the combat veterans. 435 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:12,040 Normally it's like a little piece of paper. 436 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,040 Did I give you one? 437 00:36:17,839 --> 00:36:26,160 » But I'm like the guy organization. So when I walked in President Trump, 438 00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:29,160 where's your young 439 00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:34,040 depends on when you guys 440 00:37:01,839 --> 00:37:08,920 Yeah, good call. >> That's amazing. 441 00:37:48,079 --> 00:37:54,760 We'll wait for >> Oh, I like that. Good job. 442 00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:04,200 » No, that's fine. >> Absolutely. It's a celebration. This is 443 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,200 a wonderful thing. 444 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:12,320 Once again, thank you to all the veterans who are out there and um who 445 00:38:09,839 --> 00:38:20,800 are out online as well and serving in our community and across the states. Um 446 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:25,680 now we will uh move on to public comments and I don't have the 447 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:32,160 sheet in front of me. So what I'll do is if um if anyone wants to come up and 448 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:38,359 give public comment, please uh come up. We uh 449 00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:38,359 we'll see if anybody 450 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:48,160 Okay, sweet. Will you take that baby 451 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:52,839 microphone then and put it right back up there? Thank you. 452 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,160 I appreciate you, Andrew. 453 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:08,079 I wasn't planning on uh coming up here to uh complain two weeks in a row about 454 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:10,960 the same thing, but I forgot a few things and now I have a Q card. 455 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:16,480 » I love it. >> Do that again. But uh last week I 456 00:39:13,839 --> 00:39:22,400 brought up all the trashy signs around the city that basically pop up ads and 457 00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:27,680 uh kind of forgot to elaborate more about it, why I hate them so much, but 458 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:32,640 there's a a thing called the the broken window effect or the broken window 459 00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:37,119 theory. I won't explain it all. You can Google it. But basically, when you hold 460 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:42,880 no standard, you enforce no standard. the neighbors 461 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:46,000 screen windows are falling out of their house. Their gutters are falling off. 462 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:51,119 The next neighbor doesn't mow their lawn. The next neighbor, 463 00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:55,680 you know, has broken down lawnmowers in their front yard. They kind of just 464 00:39:54,240 --> 00:40:00,720 every the whole neighborhood go down goes downhill. Uh that's kind of how I 465 00:39:59,359 --> 00:40:05,359 feel about these signs. A perfect example would be the Cook Road by I5 466 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:09,200 intersection. You got weeds four feet tall. Every 467 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:15,440 single power pole has about three signs on it saying, "Uh, we buy your house for 468 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:20,000 cash. Got usually one or two pan handlers." 469 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:28,480 That's because no one no one cares. No one cleans it up. Uh, 470 00:40:23,359 --> 00:40:33,760 today I took down another 41 signs in about an hour just in the normal routes 471 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:37,920 that I take on a daily basis. I didn't dump them on the floor this time. I just 472 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:44,079 brought one that you know Ron Burgundy would say uh stay classy Cedar Willie. 473 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:49,359 » I've noticed it for about a month, but right here it was on uh June 19th it's 474 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:56,640 been up and I took it down today just right on Highway 20 or I guess I should 475 00:40:52,160 --> 00:41:00,119 say stay classy 708 Ferry Street. But uh 476 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:08,960 yeah, that's I mean it just kind of brings everything down. Um, 477 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:14,800 you know, we got codes about these things. You know, chapter 17.40. I'm not 478 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:20,640 going to try to read it, but it's pretty simple that you can't just plop a sign 479 00:41:18,079 --> 00:41:25,200 wherever you feel like. I mean, if you want to put a sign on your own property, 480 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:28,720 your own building that you own, you got to listen to a high council of people 481 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:32,880 that lecture you about the size of your sign, the size of the letters on your 482 00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:38,640 sign, if the colors coordinate with your sign. But, you know, we just let these 483 00:41:36,319 --> 00:41:41,680 things go everywhere. I mean, there's there's a lot of city employees, not 484 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:46,079 just code enforcement, that drive a truck that says the city of Cedari on 485 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:50,880 the side of it that mow the lawn or paint stripes on the road. It wouldn't 486 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:54,880 be that difficult to just pick one up and put it behind the seat and throw it 487 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:59,440 in the garbage. I mean, I'm happy to just keep on taking them down. I'm I'm 488 00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:04,880 sure I'm sure all the the businesses would like to have them back. Maybe I'll 489 00:42:01,839 --> 00:42:07,200 ransom them. ransom their signs, but uh you know they're only worth about a 490 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:14,640 buck. That's why they leave them everywhere. Nobody nobody abandons a 491 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:17,040 $100 A-frame sign. >> That's 492 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:24,960 » the Emmy the Emmys are playing me off. But uh anyways, yeah, it just uh 493 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:28,160 maybe just I plan on harping about city beautifification for the next couple 494 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:33,760 months. Hope this will be the last time about signs, but uh you know, a a little 495 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:38,400 bit of cleanliness goes a long ways to making people not think this is a dump 496 00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:43,599 to live. So, >> thank you, Andrew. 497 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:50,800 Is there anybody else who didn't sign up but might want to speak? 498 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:56,560 » All right. Um then, um Thomas, do you see anybody online? 499 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:59,599 Uh if anyone online would like to make a public comment, go ahead and use the 500 00:42:57,839 --> 00:43:05,480 raise hands feature. We'll wait a few seconds for everyone who wants to and if 501 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,480 there's anyone will speak. 502 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,680 » All right. Hearing 503 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:22,960 » uh I'm not seeing anyone using that feature. 504 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:27,200 » Okay, perfect. Then we will uh go on to our new business. 505 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:30,240 Um, and since Kelly's not here, we'll we'll 506 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:34,400 take it to you, Charlie. >> Yep. First item here is resolution 507 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:38,400 118626. It's donation acceptance from the 508 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:44,240 Burlington Senior Center Advisory Board. Uh, this is a unsolicited u donation 509 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:47,599 that we received from the uh folks in Burlington and their senior center 510 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:51,520 advisory board. They're a nonprofit that uh works with the senior centers. Uh we 511 00:43:49,839 --> 00:43:56,240 have we have one here in Cedar Woolly as well. Uh we hired the uh Burlington 512 00:43:54,160 --> 00:44:01,040 coordinator from their senior center and we have seen some resources uh coming 513 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:06,160 along with her. Uh and and it's been fantastic. This particular donation uh 514 00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:14,000 is for $5,000 to help us with our IT needs to essentially um fully network 515 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:17,280 the uh the building. uh and and we have uh needed to do that because the county 516 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,079 previously was operating the building and so the county had its IT 517 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:23,760 infrastructure in there. They're in the process of pulling that out. Now we've 518 00:44:21,839 --> 00:44:27,920 got work to do to to make sure that we connect the building. So that is the 519 00:44:25,839 --> 00:44:32,079 nature of this. I got a request earlier today whether these were federal funds. 520 00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:35,520 Um no indication these are federal funds. Uh this is nonprofit money. I 521 00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:40,240 believe it's all local money. We'll verify all of that before we certainly 522 00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:43,599 uh spend anything. But uh yeah, that's what this is. It's $5,000. It was 523 00:44:42,079 --> 00:44:50,920 unexpected. We didn't apply for it or anything. And uh it's an opportunity to 524 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,920 uh benefit our senior center further. 525 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:58,880 » Uh Councilman Henderson. >> Thank you, Mayor. Um it it's also worth 526 00:44:57,359 --> 00:45:04,400 noting uh when I was at the senior center the other day, they had um they 527 00:45:01,359 --> 00:45:10,640 had a second check that the Burlington advisory uh senior advisory board was uh 528 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:15,359 donating to the Cedar Woolly uh senior center advisory board. So they're um 529 00:45:13,359 --> 00:45:20,400 they're really enthusiastic and have a vested interest in making sure that uh 530 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:25,920 you know we're uh successful with this endeavor for our seniors. Uh really 531 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:33,200 great to see. Um, uh, I just wanted to, uh, wanted to 532 00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:37,280 thank them, uh, for this very incredibly generous donation. Um, from what I 533 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:44,720 understand, these are uh all of the money that their uh nonprofit has, they 534 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:50,079 raise in local fundraisers and uh do do fundraising and um they actually invest 535 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:56,240 their money very wisely in um putting it in CDs in the bank and uh highinterest 536 00:45:53,119 --> 00:46:00,000 uh uh sa uh savings accounts so they can actually uh grow their money and they'll 537 00:45:58,319 --> 00:46:05,680 have it to spend when they need on uh programs and uh other such things. So, 538 00:46:03,359 --> 00:46:11,359 um, I'm I'm very grateful to see this and I'm very excited to vote yes on this 539 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:17,119 resolution. >> All right. Oh, Councilwoman Peterson, 540 00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:22,480 » I'd also like to express our gratitude that this just so generous for our 541 00:46:19,119 --> 00:46:28,400 neighboring city to um provide this as we're transitioning our senior center. 542 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:34,240 So, this is really great to see and thanks so much. 543 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:38,720 » All right. If uh no one has any other questions or comments, I'd be looking 544 00:46:36,079 --> 00:46:43,040 for a motion to approve resolution 1186-26 545 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:46,640 accepting a donation of 5,000 from the Burlington Senior Center Advisory Board. 546 00:46:45,359 --> 00:46:52,720 » I'll make that motion. >> I'll second. 547 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:59,599 » All right. So, um Twinning, um we'll give the uh motion to Councilman uh 548 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:02,160 seconded by Councilman Henderson. All those in favor signify by saying I. 549 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:07,640 » I. >> Any opposed? Same sign. Motion passes. 550 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:19,440 » All right. Now we will move on to ordinance 2113-26 551 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:24,319 temporary moratorum on data centers. >> Yes. And I do not see Tom Glover here. 552 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:27,599 So I would I'm going to see if he is in the building. But uh in the meantime, 553 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:30,000 it'd be helpful, mayor, if we could move down the agenda. 554 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,760 » Would that be all? >> I could take this one, Charlie. 555 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,200 » Oh, >> okay. Oh, thank you, Dan. 556 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,240 » Thanks. >> Go ahead, 557 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:41,359 » lawyer Dan to save the day. >> Uh good evening, mayor and council. Um 558 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:46,480 so, we scheduled these moratoria, this and the following item on the agenda um 559 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:51,200 for first review tonight uh to be followed by a public hearing and 560 00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:55,760 recommended action at the following meeting. Um 561 00:47:53,920 --> 00:48:00,720 most jurisdictions who pass similar moratoria um and there's been quite a 562 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:04,480 few have done so by simply using the emergency provision approving the 563 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:10,560 ordinance without a hearing and then scheduling a hearing at a later date. 564 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:17,119 Um, I recommend uh what I'm calling the uh belt and suspenders approach here, 565 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:21,520 which um both of these uh moratoria ordinances contain both emergency 566 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:27,839 language and opportunity for a first read by council as well as a concurrent 567 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:33,680 public hearing um which we'll have um at the next meeting 568 00:48:29,839 --> 00:48:38,960 um following this first read um should council decide. Um and there are several 569 00:48:36,079 --> 00:48:42,800 reasons for that. Um one is the reason for an application sneaking in and 570 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:48,480 getting past the moratorium is very low in this case. Um only complete invested 571 00:48:45,839 --> 00:48:53,040 applications get past the prohibition. Um which you'll see in the whereas 572 00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:58,400 statements in uh this and the following moratorum. Um 573 00:48:56,079 --> 00:49:04,240 and that just won't happen in two weeks. Um and there are no pending applications 574 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:09,760 at this time. Um the second reason is this is a clean and orderly way um to do 575 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:14,800 it by holding a public hearing while the items are on the agenda um as opposed to 576 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:21,599 passing it now um and then having to track the 60-day requirement for holding 577 00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:28,079 a public hearing later. Um finally um and this is uh really beneficial um the 578 00:49:25,119 --> 00:49:35,520 first read gives us time uh to perform due diligence um and quality control. Uh 579 00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:40,960 and so with that I did receive some questions throughout the week um from 580 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:48,240 council members. Um and the one that I'd really like to touch on here at the top 581 00:49:43,119 --> 00:49:52,319 uh was from uh Carl D. young and uh >> he asked about the term major data 582 00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:57,440 center uh which does not yet have an objective threshold. Um and so I would 583 00:49:55,599 --> 00:50:03,760 just like to say that is the central issue. Um that's really a big reason why 584 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:10,559 we need the time um that this moratorum buys us. Um I attended an MRSC training 585 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:15,359 uh on this subject yesterday with city administrators and planning directors 586 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:21,680 from uh various cities all around Washington. All of which have imposed uh 587 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:28,000 these moratoria and the central issue discussed by all in attendance was the 588 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:32,079 lack of an objective definition. And the issue is drawing a clear line which is 589 00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:36,400 neither over or underinclusive. 590 00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:40,400 Um there are things that we don't want to exclude but there are things that we 591 00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:46,720 want to make sure to cover. Uh and that is the issue of the day. Now that 592 00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:52,000 doesn't mean uh that we can't draw that line clearly as it applies to our city. 593 00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:59,119 So, that's why I wanted to have a first read tonight and then um maybe make 594 00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:04,559 suggested changes in the upcoming two weeks and present it for um recommended 595 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:08,880 action at the next meeting. So, with that, I can take questions. 596 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:16,400 » Councilman Henderson. >> Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um I I am in 597 00:51:12,319 --> 00:51:22,400 support of doing this. Uh obviously we want to get everything uh all buttoned 598 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:28,800 up and have everything uh ready to go for our next meeting. Um but we we do 599 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:34,319 need the time to get this uh in our code. Um, and we need the time to do it 600 00:51:31,839 --> 00:51:38,000 right and like you said, identify all of the uh 601 00:51:36,559 --> 00:51:47,119 all of [clears throat] the definitions of what the different um uh data centers 602 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:51,520 are and what we can and can't allow. Um, I did have a question about um I know I 603 00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:57,040 know that the county uh did something similar to this. Are are we covered at 604 00:51:54,240 --> 00:52:01,359 all under their moratorum or is that just for strictly county outside of 605 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:04,319 Woolly proper? >> Their moratorum only covers 606 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:10,000 unincorporated areas. >> Okay. 607 00:52:05,839 --> 00:52:12,400 So, we'll most likely need to do this. Thank you. 608 00:52:10,559 --> 00:52:16,319 » Correct. If we want that same coverage, we'll have to pass our own. 609 00:52:14,079 --> 00:52:18,319 » Okay. Thanks. Yep. I I'm in support of that. 610 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:24,319 » Councilman C. >> Uh yes, I'm also in support of this. Uh 611 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:29,680 these data centers are not very appropriate for Scadget Valley in my 612 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:36,319 opinion. Um they are delletterious to the water electric 613 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:41,280 electricity environmental concerns. Uh my only 614 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:46,880 question and I appreciate you talking about the definition because I think 615 00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:54,160 it's very important that we don't create problems for our existing industries and 616 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:58,640 businesses uh with this definition. So, um I think that's going to be very 617 00:52:56,720 --> 00:53:02,480 important, but I'm all for this and I think it's smart to get it done so 618 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:06,079 somebody doesn't sneak in under the wire. Thank you. 619 00:53:03,839 --> 00:53:14,000 » Thank you, Councilman Lavaka. >> Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um I I guess 620 00:53:10,319 --> 00:53:20,319 my question is more about why not do data centers right so we have um large 621 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:25,040 data centers that are enormous and of course that is a huge concern throughout 622 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:29,440 the nation of course um but there are data centers there are AI usages that 623 00:53:27,839 --> 00:53:32,400 have been happening I think most people have that on their phone they're using 624 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:39,200 it in their computers they're using it in the the governance bodies um we are 625 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:44,079 in a situation where there are competing nations, not just competing industries 626 00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:49,200 that are looking for dominance in the AI industry. Um, and I'm not opposed to 627 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:52,480 putting on a moratorum because it's a limited time. It gives time to evaluate 628 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:56,800 what size of data center, how much compute is going to be involved in that, 629 00:53:54,559 --> 00:54:01,040 what the resources used are. It's still unclear. Most of them are are told they 630 00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:05,280 have to have their own power centers as well. So energy kind of gets absorbed in 631 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:10,800 that. But with AI, they got more advanced magentic coding and they're 632 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:15,119 creating um agent models that have sub aent models. And so I believe what 633 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:21,680 you'll end up seeing isn't that we'll have a lot of different AI centers or AI 634 00:54:19,359 --> 00:54:28,640 um programs, but we'll have eventually narrowing it down to one ultimately or 635 00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:32,720 maybe just a few ultimately. Um Duck.Go, is that a viable search engine? you 636 00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:35,920 know, Google is the dominance in that and you're not really going to 637 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:41,280 necessarily replace that dominant search engine. Um, eventually AI models for 638 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:47,280 whatever reason and I don't know why, but they are they are um they do not 639 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:50,079 want to be shut down. Now, that's part of the coding and I do think it's 640 00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:53,760 predictive coding. I don't think they're sentient in any ways, but they do fight 641 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:58,400 that getting shut down and they do that through through uh trying to appease the 642 00:54:56,559 --> 00:55:02,880 user. They do it through blackmail to the coders. They do it through a number 643 00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:07,680 of sources and as they realize maybe Grock is becoming better than JG GBT and 644 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:11,440 now you got this competing thing going on and I don't mean to get into all the 645 00:55:09,119 --> 00:55:15,040 rabbit trails of these data centers but the more that we have this thing 646 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:21,359 throughout the nation which is probably justifiably so anti-data centers there 647 00:55:18,559 --> 00:55:28,319 are other countries that are producing data centers at alarming rates and 648 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:32,319 eventually um the AI would be capable of enormous those hacking abilities which 649 00:55:31,119 --> 00:55:36,800 we're already seeing them doing to themselves but also with with government 650 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:41,839 bodies and banking systems. So I would like to make it clear I'm not opposed to 651 00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:45,599 seeing some advancements in that. I do not want to see mega data centers in any 652 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:49,040 way but there's different levels of compute that's needed and there's 653 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:51,760 different levels that most right now they're seeing that they're not even 654 00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:55,839 using as much. But it should be considered what is the purpose of the AI 655 00:55:54,240 --> 00:55:58,799 data center. It's completely different than best. It's completely different 656 00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:03,359 than a battery station. is completely different than lithium. It does use a 657 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:07,200 lot of water regardless I believe in my opinion from what they say and other 658 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:11,760 resources, but there's got to be thought versus just saying, "Hey, we're against 659 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:14,480 it completely because it's it's the thing going on right now." That's my 660 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:18,960 personal opinion. >> Thank you, Councilwoman Peterson. 661 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:26,960 » Um I'm in broadly in support of this. I do 662 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:31,920 think um Nick's points and uh Carl's question are really important and I 663 00:56:28,799 --> 00:56:38,480 think it'd be helpful for me as a council member to have maybe a 664 00:56:33,599 --> 00:56:44,000 presentation uh before the next uh read to kind of see what are the different 665 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:47,520 what is a major data center and where is that threshold what are the purpose 666 00:56:46,079 --> 00:56:52,559 what's the what's the purpose of the data center if that's included in the uh 667 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:58,680 morator torium and that kind of thing. I think it would be helpful to have like a 668 00:56:54,240 --> 00:56:58,680 presentation about it to the council. 669 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:05,440 » Councilman D. Young. >> Uh Dan, thank you so much. Um I 670 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:12,319 appreciated your explanation about the emergency uh language and um so I think 671 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:16,799 going through this process is uh appropriate uh through the normal 672 00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:23,839 council process since there's nothing uh emergent or a pending application. Um 673 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:28,240 I I support the need for temporary breathing room while making sure that 674 00:57:26,319 --> 00:57:34,000 the temporary ordinance itself does not unintentionally reach uh ordinary IT 675 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:39,440 facilities. We used to call these server farms uh that we're looking at. Um but 676 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:43,680 we just want to make sure that um a company here in Wally that might have a 677 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:48,240 certain density of servers just for their own operations doesn't get 678 00:57:45,359 --> 00:57:52,640 unintentionally caught up in this. Uh my other question is this is going to be a 679 00:57:50,319 --> 00:57:56,880 six-month moratorum uh with the possibility of of an extension of 680 00:57:54,640 --> 00:58:02,160 another six months. Uh what are we going to be doing with that time as to land 681 00:57:59,359 --> 00:58:08,079 use? Uh what toward our comprehensive plan? Uh what what are the um 682 00:58:05,359 --> 00:58:13,359 deliverables that we uh should see as a council at the end of the six months for 683 00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:18,880 us to say uh yes the work has been done. And this is why we've had the moratorum 684 00:58:15,599 --> 00:58:27,000 moratorum and we can show that effort and show the folks that who are going to 685 00:58:22,319 --> 00:58:27,000 do it the cedar woolly way. Thank you. 686 00:58:28,079 --> 00:58:34,720 » I think uh for answers on that one I will defer to Tom uh now that he's back. 687 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:38,559 Um he does have a plan and now that we're in the implementation phase of our 688 00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:43,599 comprehensive plan I think we're we're better able to answer that question. 689 00:58:42,319 --> 00:58:47,200 Thank you, [clears throat] Dan. Yeah, Tom Glover, community development 690 00:58:45,119 --> 00:58:51,599 director. So, we don't have all the specifics hammered out yet, but what uh 691 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:54,799 we would like to do is take a look at what our comprehensive plan says in 692 00:58:53,280 --> 00:59:00,400 terms of policies that may relate to this. Um, I like your idea of a 693 00:58:58,319 --> 00:59:04,319 presentation. This probably not a presentation I would make because I'm 694 00:59:01,599 --> 00:59:08,319 not an expert on data centers, but other other councils out there have had like 695 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:11,680 presentations. I'm sure it would be a matter of calling around and seeing if 696 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:16,240 there's an expert out there that could help us with that. Um, so what I'd like 697 00:59:14,319 --> 00:59:21,280 to do over the next six months is is get out our get out our plan and and our 698 00:59:18,799 --> 00:59:25,440 policies and see how other um agencies and organizations have handled this um 699 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:29,920 and come up with something that looks like it fits Cedar Woolly. Um 700 00:59:28,481 --> 00:59:33,040 [clears throat] that because it would be a code amendment, it would go to 701 00:59:31,359 --> 00:59:36,240 planning commission first so I get their input before coming to you with a 702 00:59:34,559 --> 00:59:41,440 recommendation. That that all would happen. um after the second read once 703 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:44,856 the moratorium's in place unless we do a presentation beforehand. I need to talk 704 00:59:42,799 --> 00:59:47,839 with Charlie about that. But yeah, so [clears throat] 705 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:52,160 » Councilman Ly, >> I'm not for it or against it, but I 706 00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:55,680 think it'd be the prudent thing to do the moratorum and discover what the heck 707 00:59:54,319 --> 01:00:00,160 it really is because I don't know what it is. 708 00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:06,559 » Councilman Henderson. >> Thank you, Madam Mayor. Um yeah, I I'm 709 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:11,760 I'm kind of with Councilman Ly on this. I'm not I'm not against, you know, 710 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:16,720 companies having their own stuff. I I I think we all know what we don't want to 711 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:22,799 see here. Um it it's a picture in everybody's mind, but what that picture 712 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:30,160 is um as far as Dan was talking about needs to be defined um in in our code. 713 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:36,480 Um but it it would be helpful to see like what this moratorum exactly would 714 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:42,720 be um protecting the city against for applications and 715 01:00:40,319 --> 01:00:47,359 not to say we would have a company that was like well you know we need to add 716 01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:52,880 like you know 12 servers to our building so we can have our internet and all of 717 01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:56,480 our uh you know CAD software and everything else like that run. and the 718 01:00:54,880 --> 01:01:01,760 city says, "Well, no, you can't do that because there that's not what we're 719 01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:06,799 trying to do, I don't think." So, um, so the the moratorium is going to be 720 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:14,160 important as to define like more of a utility scale thing, I I would imagine 721 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:19,599 is what we'd be going after. And then um and then uh defining that. Uh but it's 722 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:26,160 important to have that that definition when we do our final code. I think I but 723 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:30,559 I don't I don't want to hose any businesses, you know, coming into this 724 01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:34,960 because economic development is important to us, too. So, um but I I 725 01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:39,200 think when you say data center, everybody has a picture in their mind of 726 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:43,680 what we're talking about. So, >> yeah, I thank you. Those are those are 727 01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:47,440 good points. Um, like I said, we do need to dive into 728 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:53,440 this and and take a look at examples of of ordinances that are working that are 729 01:01:49,599 --> 01:01:58,720 allowing the um that are not preventing economic development opportunities from 730 01:01:55,440 --> 01:02:03,760 happening. Um, we looked we looked at Scadget County's ordinance and borrowed 731 01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:09,920 that for our base and they did have a a size I think it was up to 2,000 square 732 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:14,640 feet could be allowed and a certain kilowatt. But in talking with Dan, we 733 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:18,160 don't have we can't nail those numbers down because we don't personally know we 734 01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:21,520 don't have that experience to know if that's too big, too small, what 735 01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:26,640 » you know. So those are things we want to look at. And then also what came up one 736 01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:30,720 time in a staff meeting is somebody mentioned that there are now uh 737 01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:33,599 individual type you I don't know if you guys mentioned this, but there are 738 01:02:31,839 --> 01:02:39,440 individual type units that are about the size of your your um HVAC unit that's 739 01:02:36,799 --> 01:02:44,319 outside your window um that people are looking at as well. And so, um, that to 740 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:48,079 me sounds like an entirely different kind of animal, but does the same thing. 741 01:02:46,799 --> 01:02:51,280 I don't know. I don't want to I don't want to shoot ourselves in the foot, but 742 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:57,440 I want to make sure that if these do come to town that we're ready for um for 743 01:02:54,400 --> 01:03:01,200 how to manage them, >> Councilman Lvaka. 744 01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:04,880 » Thank you, Madam Mayor. Yeah. Um, I really don't think that we'll ever see 745 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:08,559 some of these data centers that come to our mind. They're they're bigger than 746 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:12,160 our central bis business district and they use an enormous amount of 747 01:03:10,319 --> 01:03:16,559 electricity is what their plan for. A lot of them have dissolved. A lot of the 748 01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:20,799 planning firm is dissolved. Um and so I I wouldn't say that that's necessarily 749 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:25,119 would be our our uh challenge. And so having that if we can get a presentation 750 01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:28,799 education, what would that look like for our communities? I definitely wouldn't 751 01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:32,160 want to see banning some, you know, HVAC unit out somebody's, you know, home or 752 01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:37,200 their business or something like that. I think that's going too far. Um, some 753 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:40,240 server stations are the size of conxes, maybe, you know, a small house. We've 754 01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:45,359 seen that before. Those have been around since the 90s and they continue to grow. 755 01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:49,280 Um, and I just I think that when we when we think data center, we almost think 756 01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:53,039 like this giant data center like what we're seeing in some of the other areas, 757 01:03:50,799 --> 01:03:57,119 which just isn't realistic for our area. So, I I'm in favor of the moratorum 758 01:03:55,599 --> 01:04:00,720 here. I don't think we're going to see I mean, putting in some some square 759 01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:05,599 footage. I think 2,000 feet. I mean, think about that. That's like not really 760 01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:08,799 a lot of of square footage. Um I would imagine something like 50,000 square 761 01:04:07,359 --> 01:04:13,200 feet or something like that as far as a footprint of space, but putting on 762 01:04:11,119 --> 01:04:16,960 limits within the community because it's a small community. There's 13,000 763 01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:22,480 people, small square mileage, but it it draws into that fear stuff of basically 764 01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:27,520 data [snorts] center evil. We must, you know, annihilate throughout everywhere. 765 01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:31,599 I mean, it's it's around many estates. I've been hearing this and my question 766 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:36,000 goes to who's benefiting from from that because there's other nations that are 767 01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:38,559 not slowing down. [laughter] So, and I'm not saying that we should build up in 768 01:04:37,359 --> 01:04:42,000 different areas and I don't think it would affect our community, but maybe we 769 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:46,240 can do an educational presentation in the next six months um as we pass that 770 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:49,680 through. >> Councilman K. 771 01:04:47,359 --> 01:04:53,680 » Uh yes. I just I think it's really important that we reach out to our 772 01:04:52,079 --> 01:04:58,079 industrial u companies in town as this is going 773 01:04:56,160 --> 01:05:02,960 through to see what would affect them. I mean that would address many of the 774 01:04:59,920 --> 01:05:09,680 questions that have been raised here. Um Councilman Lvaka is right. The uh the 775 01:05:05,359 --> 01:05:15,359 whole uh data center uh AI revolution is moving very rapidly. Um I heard an inter 776 01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:21,760 interesting interview with the CEO of Anthropic and he was talking about uh 777 01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:27,520 data data centers in space. So, you know, it's it's a fastmoving thing and 778 01:05:24,559 --> 01:05:34,000 we also don't want to preclude companies that are doing research that need heavy 779 01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:38,720 compute time um on site and I'm not only thinking of like Janicki and Seedum, but 780 01:05:36,559 --> 01:05:44,559 maybe you know somebody that comes in that wants to do some uh biomed stuff up 781 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:49,280 at the innovation center. So I think we want to be careful on this because we 782 01:05:46,079 --> 01:05:55,280 don't want to scare away small highly innovative but my concern with the data 783 01:05:52,000 --> 01:06:02,000 centers is that they disproportionately across the United States the uh 784 01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:07,039 hyperscala scalers Meta and Google etc who are planning to spend I believe I 785 01:06:04,079 --> 01:06:12,880 have this right a combined 700 billion dollars on data centers this year that 786 01:06:09,839 --> 01:06:16,960 getting those hyperscalers to pay They're, you know, we'll probably never 787 01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:22,000 see one in Scadget County. I can't imagine a place anywhere in this county 788 01:06:19,359 --> 01:06:29,200 that's big enough, though they would be very incentivized by the Scadget River. 789 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:32,799 » Um, that's why they put the uh um a nuclear development site during World 790 01:06:31,039 --> 01:06:39,520 War II on the Colombia River. They needed the water. But, you know, I I'm 791 01:06:36,079 --> 01:06:43,280 not a big fan of the concept. Um though Councilman Lvaka said Saudi Arabia is 792 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:48,240 going hard for them. They're going to probably get some nuclear reactors to 793 01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:52,720 power them. So it's it's a fastmoving thing and but I just want to protect 794 01:06:50,079 --> 01:06:59,119 Cedral Woolly and protect our businesses who won't be adversely affected and I do 795 01:06:55,680 --> 01:07:03,839 appreciate the con the the the difficulty of arriving at a uh a 796 01:07:02,079 --> 01:07:08,880 definition that must have been attempted across the country because people have 797 01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:13,039 been banning them right and left. So, a little more research and talking to 798 01:07:11,359 --> 01:07:18,000 people who've dealt with them like we've, you know, when we contacted 799 01:07:16,079 --> 01:07:21,520 people who had to deal with municipalities who had to deal with 800 01:07:19,599 --> 01:07:25,680 best, how did they deal with it and it helped. So, thank you, 801 01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:30,480 » Madam Mayor. If >> um I'm going to go to um Councilman Cox 802 01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:34,400 first and then we'll go to you. >> Mine will be nice and quick. Uh again, I 803 01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:38,720 want to make informed decisions. So, if that is possible to get other 804 01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:43,039 municipalities on board to hear what they've done in the past, I think it's a 805 01:07:40,079 --> 01:07:47,440 great idea from Councilman uh Person there. Uh it's yeah, we don't want to be 806 01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:51,440 afraid of it. So, that's that's my view on it. Uh I'm neither for it or against 807 01:07:49,359 --> 01:07:55,839 it. I do not want to exclude something that can help us out and uh this might 808 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:59,680 be something that it's a minor thing and we could be pushing more than one person 809 01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:04,240 out in the future. So, thank you for all the work that this will take. 810 01:08:02,799 --> 01:08:07,920 Councilman Lvaka, >> I just uh because I I work at Janicki 811 01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:12,799 and I just really want to avoid any rumor mills that go on. Janicki does not 812 01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:17,199 produce AI. They're not like [laughter] it's advanced technologies, but it's 813 01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:20,799 building components for planes or or boats or other vessels. They don't they 814 01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:25,199 don't have server farms. They're not doing AI. So to avoid rumor mill from 815 01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:31,040 spreading through the community, you know, they that's not what they do. 816 01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:33,839 Those are data centers that are placed 817 01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:38,960 throughout the country in different locations. We don't need to have a data 818 01:08:35,679 --> 01:08:43,520 center to use a cloud. Yeah. [laughter] >> All right. Councilwoman Peterson, 819 01:08:40,799 --> 01:08:48,400 » I just wanted to add uh Council Member mentioned reaching out to um 820 01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:52,239 businesses and industry and I'm thinking about, you know, I think we're all 821 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:58,319 really proud of the innovation we have here in Cedar Woolly. We don't want to 822 01:08:53,920 --> 01:09:02,239 do anything to uh hinder local innovation in town. And we have the I 823 01:09:00,719 --> 01:09:07,520 wonder if the Northwest Innovation Center would have any resources [music] 824 01:09:04,319 --> 01:09:11,839 or um be able to speak to potential impacts in that area as well. 825 01:09:11,359 --> 01:09:17,279 » Yeah, >> they do have a AI seminar at that place. 826 01:09:15,199 --> 01:09:22,000 I think it's September 9th. Um you can talk to Diane or go visit the ICR and 827 01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:25,600 find out more about it. I think Diane or people at that area they're bringing in 828 01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:29,279 some experts even from Packard different areas they're advertising might be a 829 01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:34,799 good opportunity to find out more about it right from external source but 830 01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:37,920 » all right thank you 831 01:09:35,759 --> 01:09:42,159 » I that that's excuse me that's that's interesting if there if there was a 832 01:09:39,440 --> 01:09:46,400 seminar that was being held locally I' I'd be happy to work with Charlie and 833 01:09:44,159 --> 01:09:50,960 mayor to set that up for your attendance we'd have to do a public notice for 834 01:09:48,159 --> 01:09:53,839 meeting but Yeah, we'll see if that's possible. It depends on the content, I 835 01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:55,679 think, of it, whether it's it's kind of tailored, but uh yeah, we'll look into 836 01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:59,040 that. >> Okay. Anyway, that 837 01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:04,960 » Okay. Thanks. >> All right. Uh did you want to take us 838 01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:08,960 into the the next ordinance, Tom? >> I don't Is that the best uh or excuse 839 01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:15,640 me, >> it's the permit application? 840 01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:15,640 » Okay, thank you. 841 01:10:16,159 --> 01:10:23,360 » Oh, that's that's fine. Okay, good. Thank you. 842 01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:33,280 So this um is um reestablishing the moratorum on um 843 01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:39,199 Thank you. on major utility centers. Thank you. There we go. 844 01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:44,960 Um anyway, so this this stemmed from the um the project to be lo or that may be 845 01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:52,560 located outside of Cedar Willy, the Bass project. Um, and back then we did have a 846 01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:57,280 moratorum placed on it and we extended it. I think we extended it once. Um, and 847 01:10:55,600 --> 01:11:01,360 we kind of lost track of it because we were in the middle of our comp plan 848 01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:05,600 process and and um, we haven't gotten around to dealing with regulations to 849 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:10,000 deal with that kind of um, industrial use. It is something we'd like to 850 01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:15,600 address. Um but first we want to reestablish the moratorum and like like 851 01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:19,440 we had hoped less time to use that six months to come up with those development 852 01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:24,159 rags to do that but like I said we got caught up in the comp plan we're not 853 01:11:21,440 --> 01:11:29,360 caught up in that anymore and so um I think that in six months or shortly 854 01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:34,960 thereafter within six eight months we could come up with some development 855 01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:38,320 regulations for it. All right, Councilman, 856 01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:44,800 » if I could just piggyback uh since this is uh we also put this one up for first 857 01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:50,880 read. Um this uh proposal also benefited from uh council member input. 858 01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:55,600 Uh it was Councilman D. Young again who uh flagged 859 01:11:53,360 --> 01:12:00,239 the term major utility in one of his questions. And so when I uh bring this 860 01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:04,960 back for a second read, I intend to scratch that. Um, so it'll just say 861 01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:08,960 applications for development projects that involve the storage or generation 862 01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:13,760 of electricity. And the reason for that is, uh, the term major utility is 863 01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:19,440 actually a term of art at the county level, um, in in some of their zoning. 864 01:12:16,719 --> 01:12:27,120 And so I don't want to inadvertently invoke that. Um, and then also I had the 865 01:12:23,679 --> 01:12:31,840 uh first public hearing date uh for tonight because originally I had this 866 01:12:29,679 --> 01:12:35,920 scheduled to be a first read at the previous meeting. So, we'll have to bump 867 01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:39,920 that public hearing date to September 9th and I'll have that date corrected 868 01:12:37,679 --> 01:12:43,840 when I bring it back. That's all. Thanks. 869 01:12:42,159 --> 01:12:48,560 » Uh, Councilman Henderson. >> Thank you, Madam Mayor. Um, 870 01:12:46,935 --> 01:12:55,520 [clears throat] this this also is going to be all in the verbiage, I think, of 871 01:12:51,760 --> 01:13:02,719 of how we how we get it right. Um, I do know uh I don't know all of our codes uh 872 01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:09,040 off the top of my head. Um I know we have some employees that almost do I'm 873 01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:14,960 sure but um we do have an a noise ordinance right for uh certain things 874 01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:16,159 like uh industrial and other such things. 875 01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:26,800 » Yes. >> Okay. Um and the reason I ask is uh in 876 01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:31,920 in developing this uh uh code um I don't see us 877 01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:39,679 I I can't imagine that this council would not pass a uh moratorum for uh 878 01:13:36,480 --> 01:13:48,560 major utility developments so we can in turn get our code correct. Um, 879 01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:55,280 and in writing that code, um, it'd be helpful if we included, um, like 880 01:13:52,000 --> 01:14:01,760 the noise ordinance for it because size is relative, right? Like this project 881 01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:07,440 that they're proposing out in our farmland right outside town. Um, it's a 882 01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:11,760 very large pro project and we've heard that it's going to be very loud if they 883 01:14:09,199 --> 01:14:16,800 do end up being able to build it. which hopefully they won't, but um there 884 01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:23,040 is another project that's already in place um on Samish Island and it's about 885 01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:30,000 the size of a dumpster and um I know the neighboring property 886 01:14:26,239 --> 01:14:39,199 owners of it and it is incredibly loud and it's um and so uh in in doing the 887 01:14:36,239 --> 01:14:45,199 code I I think it'd be important to not only have square footage But whatever 888 01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:50,560 noise pollution and sound and um how it would be bothering people coming off of 889 01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:55,920 off of it would um kind of lock it in a little bit harder, I think. 890 01:14:53,280 --> 01:15:00,480 » Thanks. >> All right, Councilman Laga. 891 01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:05,679 » Thank you very much. Thanks for uh doing this. I do agree. Um it's nice to see so 892 01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:09,199 much on the lithium side because there there may be some alternative energies 893 01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:14,640 that hopefully do come out that are fairly safe. Um a long time ago I had an 894 01:15:11,679 --> 01:15:17,679 idea to do a saltwater battery and I delayed and delayed and then I looked it 895 01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:22,159 up when I was about ready to do it and they were doing it with um carbon mat 896 01:15:19,679 --> 01:15:26,080 and saltwater um as their anode and cathode and their acid and they were 897 01:15:23,679 --> 01:15:28,400 using aluminum or copper as their as their node. So, I mean, it was 898 01:15:27,199 --> 01:15:32,719 interesting. It wasn't generating electric lot of electricity. But if they 899 01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:36,239 can do something like that that's not condensed or they come up with something 900 01:15:34,239 --> 01:15:39,920 different that is a little bit safer, you know, or some the ICR is what kind 901 01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:42,719 of what I'm thinking. They're developing technologies. So, they get something 902 01:15:41,440 --> 01:15:46,480 stood up and then they want to buy a shop in town and really develop it out. 903 01:15:45,199 --> 01:15:52,159 You know, it'd be kind of nice to see some safer energies and and stuff like 904 01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:56,960 that. Um, and and part of the advantage of having the ICR so close is that those 905 01:15:54,800 --> 01:16:01,760 entrepreneurs may start a business in town because they're starting their 906 01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:04,080 their crafts over there. They're getting mentored over there. They're getting 907 01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:07,199 their patents over there and then they're building out these which are 908 01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:10,320 some actually some really cool technologies. I mean, everything from 909 01:16:08,719 --> 01:16:14,400 autonomous to nuclear to different things, you know, that they're kind of 910 01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:17,520 doing. They could start working on those in town as and starting up their 911 01:16:16,159 --> 01:16:21,120 businesses like we've seen other startups. So, 912 01:16:19,679 --> 01:16:26,719 Councilman Carr. Uh >> again, this is a situation where um we 913 01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:31,920 want to make sure that we don't throw the baby out with the bathwater and have 914 01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:37,199 a good definition. Um what they were proposing outside of town, we had the 915 01:16:34,480 --> 01:16:41,520 the proponents of it and I remember asking them, "What do you do if there's 916 01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:48,239 a fire?" And he the guy said, "We let it burn." which wasn't a great answer, but 917 01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:54,480 uh Councilman Lvaka is right in terms of battery development. It's going very 918 01:16:50,719 --> 01:17:02,159 rapidly. Unfortunately, we're being uh uh China's way ahead on this. Um but 919 01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:06,880 there are other major uh u manufacturers including Toyota that are pushing it 920 01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:12,159 really hard. Toyota went early into hybrid vehicles. So I think that the 921 01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:17,199 technology will get better. I think the lithium battery as it is is pretty scary 922 01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:22,080 to most folks and they wouldn't want to live next to it. So, we really don't 923 01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:25,520 want to have it even in our industrial zone. I think that would be scary to 924 01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:30,960 people, too. I'm not opposed to battery technology. I'm just opposed to where 925 01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:37,103 you place it. Thank you, >> Councilwoman Peterson. 926 01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:41,440 Yeah, I had a question about um I [clears throat] know there's the large 927 01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:46,480 scale battery farms, but then there's also like household or residential 928 01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:52,400 battery storage, energy storage, you know, people who want to stop paying 929 01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:57,440 PSSE for their electricity. Um do we have any do we have any permitting for 930 01:17:55,120 --> 01:18:02,880 that currently or are we seeing activity like that in town right now? 931 01:17:59,920 --> 01:18:04,719 Um, I haven't seen anything. That doesn't mean it's not out there. 932 01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:07,120 » Okay. >> Yeah. 933 01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:11,040 » So, but it's something I'd want to take a look at when we draft our ordinance, 934 01:18:09,199 --> 01:18:15,520 too. We don't want to, like you said, throw the baby out with the bath water 935 01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:21,040 or prevent innovation from happening, >> you know, and um something like we did 936 01:18:18,719 --> 01:18:24,560 with like we will with the um with the data centers, we have to look at size. 937 01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:30,080 There's a lot of information I think that we need to pull off from, you know, 938 01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:34,159 um, the internet or whatever and some experts if we have them around 939 01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:37,920 » um to make sure we don't >> paint ourselves into a corner. 940 01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:43,120 » I also wanted to say like when I hear Nick talking a lot of what I'm hearing 941 01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:49,120 is we want to support local businesses um, and that's a totally different thing 942 01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:54,719 from the best project right outside of town here. Um, so that might be 943 01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:58,239 something to consider as well. >> Councilman Coch. Yeah, I just want to 944 01:18:56,400 --> 01:19:01,840 reiterate what several people have said, getting the innovation center involved 945 01:19:00,159 --> 01:19:07,600 because they'll be great partners on these questions and uh they might know 946 01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:12,159 the right people as uh Councilman Lvak has said uh when I went to one of their 947 01:19:09,679 --> 01:19:16,960 events, I talked to a fellow who they're doing uh they're developing the 948 01:19:14,719 --> 01:19:21,679 infrastructure for uh new next generation nuclear and there's some 949 01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:25,760 interesting people that you know they could they could maybe put in more of a 950 01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:32,080 well you should look You should be a little bit more futuristic on this and 951 01:19:28,480 --> 01:19:38,159 know what's coming. Thank you. >> All right, then if there isn't any more 952 01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:43,840 discussion on this topic. Okay, we will move on to easements. 953 01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:46,960 Bill, thank you, mayor, and good evening, 954 01:19:45,440 --> 01:19:51,520 council. So, the Jones John Liner Railroad 955 01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:56,560 Undercrossing Project, think I said that without stuttering. That's good. 956 01:19:53,600 --> 01:20:02,560 um is moving right along. Uh we're at a basically a 90% design right now and as 957 01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:10,400 part of that uh what's before you this evening is our um the last of our 958 01:20:06,719 --> 01:20:14,960 rideway acquisition effort. So we we uh as you know last year we purchased the 959 01:20:12,239 --> 01:20:21,600 easement from BNSF to put the road under the railroad bridge. These now we have a 960 01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:26,560 number of small easements. So, for instance, where our sidewalks 961 01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:32,480 um need to get truncated to put in the ADA ramps and things like that. And uh 962 01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:36,080 we've got a um I think five temporary construction 963 01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:40,320 easements to move fences that are encroaching on the rideway and some 964 01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:46,880 various things as well. So, basically, this is a pretty uh minor uh rightaway 965 01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:51,040 acquisition effort. So, it went a little faster than I expected, which is great. 966 01:20:49,199 --> 01:20:59,840 And so that's what's before you tonight is to uh finalize this handful of of uh 967 01:20:56,800 --> 01:21:05,400 rightaway easements to purchase and we are on target to begin construction this 968 01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:05,400 spring. 969 01:21:05,679 --> 01:21:12,400 » Councilman Henderson. >> Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um it looks 970 01:21:10,480 --> 01:21:16,320 like you're uh going to be on time and on budget here, so that's good. It's 971 01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:25,040 great. I love I love being on budget. Um yeah, 972 01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:30,960 and so uh look looking at this we got 84 and a half% uh covered by the TIP grant 973 01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:37,199 and then the rest is coming from uh is it REIT or TBD or is it a combination of 974 01:21:33,679 --> 01:21:43,120 those? uh it can be any or all or this is basically the u small mo local mosaic 975 01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:48,080 of funding we're using for this project and so it just all kind of all how it 976 01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:51,120 shakes out um what ratio we're using we're not 977 01:21:49,440 --> 01:21:56,400 necessarily using an even ratio on everything but but um we're keeping 978 01:21:53,920 --> 01:22:00,960 track of this mostly it's REIT but also certainly TBD and transportation impact 979 01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:03,920 fees it's just a source of local the pools which our local funding comes 980 01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:08,560 room. >> Okay. Well, I'm good with it. 981 01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:13,840 » Mock. >> Uh, thanks, Bill. Good work on this. Uh, 982 01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:17,679 have y'all reached out to the affected uh, land owners, residents on 983 01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:21,600 » regularly and routinely, sir? >> Okay. So, any push back or they pretty 984 01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:25,920 much >> I wouldn't say push back, more questions 985 01:22:24,159 --> 01:22:28,800 » and we're answering them >> because we're going to enumerate them. 986 01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:32,199 So, right. >> Yes. 987 01:22:29,199 --> 01:22:32,199 » Yeah. 988 01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:41,600 Um, Councilwoman Peterson, >> um, I'm hearing from W three 989 01:22:38,719 --> 01:22:45,920 constituents whose fences are being affected by this property. You know, 990 01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:50,239 they don't really like it, but from what I've heard, um, our staff has done a 991 01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:55,440 really good job with communication and kind of explaining the situation and so, 992 01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:58,960 thank you for that, Bill. Um, and we also were able to talk about this at the 993 01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:04,400 open house and I think it's just really great to have all of that public 994 01:23:00,480 --> 01:23:08,400 information available and engaging with the the residents who are impacted. So, 995 01:23:06,719 --> 01:23:12,880 thank you. >> What Councilwoman Henderson's speaking 996 01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:17,120 of is the five houses on the southern right ofway where their backyards butt 997 01:23:15,199 --> 01:23:21,440 against our unused rightway. So, this was unopened rightway largely and some 998 01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:25,760 of them have their fences encroached over 10 feet on the city right away. Um, 999 01:23:24,159 --> 01:23:29,520 and so then as our surveyor came through, so we're working through with 1000 01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:34,800 what those particular rules involve with them and like I said, it's been a lot of 1001 01:23:32,239 --> 01:23:38,440 questions and education and we're at a good place right now. 1002 01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:44,639 » Councilman Lvaka. >> Uh, so yeah, mine was very similar with 1003 01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:49,120 those because that's right over in war two and and we walk over there. They're 1004 01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:53,600 uh they right now got a view of a goalie with the deer prancing around and eating 1005 01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:56,960 vegetation and it's going to be a road. It's going to be a sidewalk like up to 1006 01:23:55,040 --> 01:24:01,280 their back deck. [laughter] So, uh great job on communicating well 1007 01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:06,159 with them. Um I, you know, I've heard some people that were upset definitely. 1008 01:24:03,440 --> 01:24:10,960 Um more so, you know, when it was first being really proposed, but now it seems 1009 01:24:08,159 --> 01:24:15,520 like it's settling in. And uh if we do see a lot of push back, I mean it'd be a 1010 01:24:13,679 --> 01:24:19,920 great time to note that and then then maybe do another town event for those 1011 01:24:17,440 --> 01:24:24,159 guys. And thank you, >> Councilwoman Peterson. 1012 01:24:21,199 --> 01:24:27,520 » Oh, I was Oh, that's sorry, Councilman Cox. 1013 01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:32,000 » Uh forgive me if I haven't uh seen this or read about it, but uh I have been I 1014 01:24:29,679 --> 01:24:37,840 also am in in W 2, so I reside there, but people are asking about the closure 1015 01:24:34,159 --> 01:24:42,000 of the old uh passing. What what what's the timeline on that? And then is I 1016 01:24:40,639 --> 01:24:46,159 didn't notice, but will there be a four-way stop or anything on Reed and 1017 01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:50,000 and John Liner in the future? Is that >> Yeah. No, it will not be a four-way 1018 01:24:47,679 --> 01:24:56,159 stop, but So, it's going to h right now uh Reed is a two-way is a T intersection 1019 01:24:52,960 --> 01:25:01,040 because re uh John Liner doesn't go all the way through. So the uh Reed Street 1020 01:24:59,440 --> 01:25:05,040 will become the minor leg and that will get the two stop signs and then the 1021 01:25:02,719 --> 01:25:12,080 Jones John Liner corridor will be through uh through 1022 01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:15,920 access and um sorry did you have another question there council? 1023 01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:20,960 » Just the closure time for the the previous 1024 01:25:16,639 --> 01:25:26,800 » Okay. Uh thank you. So part of the um agreement with BNSF to build the new 1025 01:25:23,440 --> 01:25:32,080 bridge and it's also a traffic concern with the city actually sap road there is 1026 01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:37,840 a county road uh the city and county jointly maintain it mainly because 1027 01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:44,320 uh it it goes through our city and and many times u our maintenance staff is is 1028 01:25:42,239 --> 01:25:47,760 closer and and easier to maintain as we maintain our other roads in the 1029 01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:51,840 vicinity. And so this is going to be a two-step process. One is we're going to 1030 01:25:49,679 --> 01:25:54,800 annex the SAP road right away into the city so that we don't have that 1031 01:25:53,440 --> 01:26:02,239 discontinuity with the county maintenance crews anymore. Um and then 1032 01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:07,120 as part of that, we've agreed to close uh access through that undercrossing, 1033 01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:14,480 which as everybody knows is a hairpin turn and and has several different 1034 01:26:10,159 --> 01:26:20,080 issues. Um, originally BNSF was going to reestablish the embankment under that 1035 01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:25,199 uh as a way to close it, but of course that runs into Brickyard Creek and other 1036 01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:29,679 things. So they have informed me as they were building the bridge this April that 1037 01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:32,800 they're going it's going to remain open, but our agreement says we still need to 1038 01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:38,239 close the road to through traffic, which we're all for. So the count so the city 1039 01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:44,239 will quickly go through. It's also on our six-year tip. um 1040 01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:49,280 in a very short time frame after we open the Jones line or undercrossing road 1041 01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:54,719 because that will then be the major through route uh east and west to close 1042 01:26:52,880 --> 01:27:00,880 that with a hammerhead turnaround in either side establish boulder bullards 1043 01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:05,760 under the bridge and now it can be remain open for pedestrian access. So, 1044 01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:13,120 next year on the six-year tip, you'll see a a new project to establish a 1045 01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:19,840 bicycle pedestrian route along SAP Road um to connect with Reed Street. So, then 1046 01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:24,239 you can uh utilize uh SAP Road between Highway 20 and Jones Road right now is 1047 01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:27,520 pedestrian only and then so that pedestrian access will extend all the 1048 01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:32,400 way to Reed Street when we're done with that project. Although I can't tell you 1049 01:27:30,159 --> 01:27:39,440 exactly what year we'll build that in, but um when um and then at that time, 1050 01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:44,480 Sap Road on the north side of Jones Road will basically become a driveway serving 1051 01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:48,639 that one property and then have some sort of separator for the bicycles, 1052 01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:54,320 pedestrians on the I'll call it the easterly half of the road. So I I've 1053 01:27:50,719 --> 01:27:58,639 we've got a plan on that but but yes so we will but we will be closing that road 1054 01:27:56,400 --> 01:28:03,679 to vehic or that undercrossing to vehicular traffic uh soon after uh the 1055 01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:07,440 main road has been opened as part of our agreement with BNSF. 1056 01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:11,760 » Perfect. And I just want to say thank you for all you're doing in this because 1057 01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:17,040 it's been exciting. I was unable to uh to go to your your open house but I w 1058 01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:21,280 told so many people about it. So again, kudos to the city, to the entire team 1059 01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:26,719 for being so transparent and having this all available in such a way that it's 1060 01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:29,440 easy to read. So thank you for that. >> Councilman Labarco. 1061 01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:34,560 » Madame Mayor, I'd like to make a motion to authorize you or designate to execute 1062 01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:38,000 easement and other purchase documents for temporary and permanent easement for 1063 01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:42,080 the Jones John Liner Railroad Undercrossing Project up to a combined 1064 01:28:40,480 --> 01:28:45,760 total of $30,000. >> Second. 1065 01:28:42,719 --> 01:28:50,239 » Yep. Jinx. All right, we have a motion by Councilman Lvaka, seconded by 1066 01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:56,639 Councilman Cox. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. 1067 01:28:52,639 --> 01:28:59,880 » Any opposed? Same sign. Motion passes. >> Thank you. 1068 01:29:00,159 --> 01:29:06,560 » All right. Professional services agreement. 1069 01:29:03,440 --> 01:29:15,120 » Yes, ma'am. So, uh the next item is Cascade uh the sorry SR20 Cascade Trail 1070 01:29:11,199 --> 01:29:19,920 West Extension Phase 2A. Man, I promise to establish shorter titles of 1071 01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:25,360 projects in the future. So, this is kind of the final push to 1072 01:29:22,480 --> 01:29:31,440 finish the design and then right away we expect right away may go 1073 01:29:29,199 --> 01:29:37,120 fairly quickly, may take up to a year just simply because we have a number of 1074 01:29:33,440 --> 01:29:44,159 property owners uh to work with there. And uh so this is a proposal to uh bring 1075 01:29:41,679 --> 01:29:48,960 on board Reichart Nep and their team to do the final uh design and also the 1076 01:29:47,199 --> 01:29:54,080 construction management and inspection on this project as well. Uh it is a 1077 01:29:52,400 --> 01:30:00,080 project with a little bit of history. Uh, as um, 1078 01:29:57,199 --> 01:30:04,639 uh, as council knows, you know, this is a 1079 01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:09,920 project that Mark Fryburgger started, I believe in 2018, 1080 01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:15,360 uh, as as a grant project, and then we were designing in-house with David Lee, 1081 01:30:12,480 --> 01:30:21,679 uh, for a period of time. And then as we transitioned over in 2024, we actually 1082 01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:26,960 um because we were without without a city engineer for about nine months, uh 1083 01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:31,840 we hired Facet uh Northwest and they brought the design to about an 80 90% 1084 01:30:29,440 --> 01:30:36,159 design. It does include a pedestrian bridge which we want to a third party 1085 01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:45,360 analysis on which Reichart will provide for us. And then um uh then we had the 1086 01:30:40,719 --> 01:30:49,440 flood and uh Peter Lane took over some of the design, advanced that design. And 1087 01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:54,960 part of his what he advanced at design with was to elevate the trail by a foot 1088 01:30:52,639 --> 01:30:59,120 or two in key locations so we wouldn't have to uh evacuate some of the 1089 01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:02,719 different medical services and stuff in that area to basically provide some of 1090 01:31:00,639 --> 01:31:08,800 that flood resilience. And then now um the other thing that's 1091 01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:13,520 happened too is we've had a major change in the Washington State Department uh 1092 01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:18,239 DOT specifications uh and so part of that this is a federal 1093 01:31:16,239 --> 01:31:25,120 project. It's also funded with TIBB money, but um bringing on uh the last 1094 01:31:22,480 --> 01:31:31,600 little bit of professional consulting services to make sure we get over that 1095 01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:36,719 hump, get a uh third party analysis on the pedestrian bridge, which also, by 1096 01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:44,320 the way, will carry period potentially periodic traffic. uh in that um if we 1097 01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:49,679 have a major flood, this trail uh as well as phase 2B will be outside the 1098 01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:55,040 100red-year flood plane and potentially maintain emergency services doing during 1099 01:31:52,159 --> 01:31:59,840 a near hundred-year flood event to the hospital over our trail. So, we we we 1100 01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:03,360 want to make sure we're doing our due diligence to make sure we're having 1101 01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:08,960 these components that we'll be able to serve that secondary function as well. 1102 01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:13,440 So, this is um simply within our budget and we want to 1103 01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:21,280 get across the finish line and then get all the federal project uh requirements 1104 01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:26,320 done with uh some professional services. >> All right. Any questions? Uh 1105 01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:30,719 Councilwoman Peterson. >> Bill, again, this is really great. the 1106 01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:37,840 amount of ingenuity that's involved in this project planning with the flood 1107 01:32:32,480 --> 01:32:42,719 resilience and uh the path that is going to provide accessibility to the 1108 01:32:41,199 --> 01:32:47,199 hospital. This is a really great project. I have 1109 01:32:45,440 --> 01:32:50,400 constituents commenting on it all the time. People 1110 01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:56,480 are really looking forward to this. So, thank you for your work on this, 1111 01:32:53,840 --> 01:33:01,840 » Councilman Coch. Uh, and I thank you also. I and I think this project will 1112 01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:06,560 eventually will will save lives. You know, people I've seen people walking 1113 01:33:03,440 --> 01:33:12,719 down the side of that road a foot from traffic going 50 plus. Um, and I really 1114 01:33:10,159 --> 01:33:17,840 I want to um agree with uh Councilman Councilwoman 1115 01:33:15,440 --> 01:33:22,960 Peterson that the resilience thing I would think would be very well received 1116 01:33:19,679 --> 01:33:27,520 by funding agencies as well because I think everything that we do going 1117 01:33:24,719 --> 01:33:32,480 forward in regard to construction of city properties where relevant should 1118 01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:36,639 really think a lot about flood resilience because we had a bad one and 1119 01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:42,320 we'll have another one. >> Thank you. 1120 01:33:39,679 --> 01:33:47,679 Um, Councilman Henderson. >> Thank you, Madam Mayor. Um, yeah, great 1121 01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:52,239 job. Uh, you've done a tremendous amount of work 1122 01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:56,400 on the uh Jones John Liner Road and then I know that you picked this up late in 1123 01:33:53,840 --> 01:34:01,360 the game and uh yeah, you're you're killing it, man. So, uh, with that, I'd 1124 01:33:59,440 --> 01:34:06,560 motion to authorize mayor designate execute a contract with Reichart and EV 1125 01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:13,370 Engineering Incorporated for engineering for the State Route 20 Cascade Trail 1126 01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:17,120 West Extension phase 2A [laughter] project in the amount not to 1127 01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:22,000 exceed $155,000 with minor contract changes as required 1128 01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:26,800 by Washington State DOT. >> I'll second. 1129 01:34:24,480 --> 01:34:30,880 » All right. Uh, we have a motion made by Councilman Henderson, seconded by 1130 01:34:28,480 --> 01:34:35,040 Councilman Caul. Is there any more discussion? 1131 01:34:32,639 --> 01:34:37,760 All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. 1132 01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:42,560 » Any oppose? Same sign. >> Motion passes. 1133 01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:44,400 » Now the fun part. >> How about the truck? 1134 01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:49,600 » Okay, >> here we go. 1135 01:34:46,480 --> 01:34:55,440 » So, um, thank you again. So, so this so we have we we've been having some issues 1136 01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:59,679 with our garbage trucks lately and one of the things we have is an interlocal 1137 01:34:57,280 --> 01:35:07,199 agreement with the city of Mount Vernon uh to share resources with solid waste 1138 01:35:02,719 --> 01:35:11,360 equipment. Uh that also includes um things like towers and things like that 1139 01:35:09,199 --> 01:35:15,360 if we need to do that. So, we've been borrowing one of their garbage trucks 1140 01:35:13,199 --> 01:35:21,600 off and on for the last three, four months as we've um been making repairs 1141 01:35:19,440 --> 01:35:26,000 to some of our vehicles as things that have happened to them. And so, uh this 1142 01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:31,360 is a truck that they've loaned to us in the past. We know this truck. We've used 1143 01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:36,239 it quite a bit recently. And uh it just happens to be on their surplusing 1144 01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:42,000 schedule and their ERR rotation. And they, as you know, it can take a year to 1145 01:35:40,239 --> 01:35:45,679 two years to get a new garbage truck after you place an order. So basically, 1146 01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:49,920 their garbage truck they placed an order on two years ago came and then they're 1147 01:35:47,440 --> 01:35:54,800 ready to surplus this one. And so rather than surplus it to public auction, they 1148 01:35:51,840 --> 01:36:00,560 offered it to us for $40,000. Is is a truck that our mechanics gone 1149 01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:05,360 through a basic review of it. It hasn't done an intensive review. He's also 1150 01:36:02,639 --> 01:36:11,360 coordinated with the Mason County or Mason County, geez, 1151 01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:18,239 the Mount Vernon maintenance department as well. Um, it has a good history. It's 1152 01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:22,320 a sound vehicle. They're uh $40,000 is what they're offering it for us. We'd 1153 01:36:19,679 --> 01:36:28,080 like uh recommend taking that. I will say it's likely as our mechanic goes 1154 01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:33,120 through it. I've suggested to him that um it's going to be worth placing some 1155 01:36:30,639 --> 01:36:38,480 more investment into this truck to just make extend its life cycle. And one of 1156 01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:44,159 those things may be adding a a heavy lift kit to it. Right now it doesn't 1157 01:36:40,159 --> 01:36:49,760 have the heavy duty garbage lifting arms on it and stuff, but uh even if we spent 1158 01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:54,800 200,000 on that and he thinks it's going to be under 100,000, but will no more, 1159 01:36:52,480 --> 01:36:58,960 we would be spending less than half the cost of a new truck. And similar 1160 01:36:57,119 --> 01:37:05,679 strategy to what we did a year and a half ago with council with one of our uh 1161 01:37:02,159 --> 01:37:09,360 dump trucks that uh we replaced the the dump on it that rusted off from salt and 1162 01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:14,880 stuff and uh we invested about 100,000 in that and 1163 01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:19,760 and it's now a very good serviceable truck without having to go into the long 1164 01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:25,280 lead time of ordering a new one. So, it's it's uh one of the strategies been 1165 01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:30,480 we've been trying to work with to uh truly get some good service life when we 1166 01:37:27,199 --> 01:37:37,440 have a vehicle that um has a lot of miles on the engine to go. And so, so 1167 01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:42,080 anyway, with that, I would um uh appreciate being able to purchase 1168 01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:46,000 this with Mount Vernon and and I'm glad we have such a good relationship with 1169 01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:50,400 them. So, for them to offer such a good deal on a truck like this to us, 1170 01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:54,080 » Councilman Dion, >> thank you. Well, we already know this 1171 01:37:52,159 --> 01:37:59,360 truck and so it's got a flatter learning curve for our staff. Um, and it's been 1172 01:37:56,560 --> 01:38:04,320 checked out preliminary by our mechanic. Uh, we need it. we should have it if the 1173 01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:08,400 price point seems right and so I support it and I think this is a no-brainer. So 1174 01:38:06,239 --> 01:38:13,119 I move the uh to authorize the mayor or designate to execute the agreement with 1175 01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:19,040 the city of Mount Vernon purchase uh of the 2007 CCC automated refuge truck for 1176 01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:22,080 $40,000. >> I'll second. 1177 01:38:20,159 --> 01:38:28,080 » All right, we have a motion by Councilman D. Young. 1178 01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:30,719 Um seconded by Councilman Henderson. Is there any more discussion? Councilman 1179 01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:37,199 Henderson. >> Thank you. Um, it's been a long time 1180 01:38:33,679 --> 01:38:41,760 since I bought a garbage truck. Uh, how much does a brand new one cost? Just 1181 01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:46,560 just so we can hear the difference between 40,000. 1182 01:38:45,199 --> 01:38:51,840 » Just about 500,00. >> 500,000. 1183 01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:56,320 This is a good deal. >> All those uh in favor signify by saying 1184 01:38:54,960 --> 01:39:02,719 I. I. >> Any oppose? Same sign. 1185 01:38:59,440 --> 01:39:08,719 Happy garbage truck day. All right. Uh let's see here. So, um you 1186 01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:13,800 see the information only items and is there anything uh for the good of the 1187 01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:13,800 order? 1188 01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:19,040 » Uh we do not have an executive session tonight. 1189 01:39:16,639 --> 01:39:22,960 » I have one point. Um, so, uh, Councilman Henderson, 1190 01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:25,960 » uh, for good of the order, um, for the, uh, 1191 01:39:26,159 --> 01:39:33,668 » September 9th, uh, meeting, um, I would ask to be excused. 1192 01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:37,199 » No, [laughter] 1193 01:39:35,119 --> 01:39:40,880 thanks. Wanted to speak, right? >> Is there a particular reason? 1194 01:39:38,639 --> 01:39:45,679 » Yeah, I'm going to be out of the country. 1195 01:39:43,199 --> 01:39:51,199 Madam Mayor, I'd like to make a point of personal privilege to congratulate 1196 01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:55,119 Council Member Henderson on his upcoming marriage. 1197 01:39:54,000 --> 01:40:02,800 » Thank you. >> I would like to sec I will third that 1198 01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:07,600 and and say welcome to the family. Madam Mayor, 1199 01:40:04,239 --> 01:40:10,639 » so I was wondering if we can have I believe a deeper discussion on those 1200 01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:14,560 baseball fields and what the plan is maybe at a workshop coming up um which 1201 01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:18,159 is probably already in the works. I'm sure. Yes, you're nodding your head. Of 1202 01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:22,239 course it would be. Um so thank you very much for doing that. 1203 01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:25,520 » There's a lot of interested people on where are we going to put these kids? If 1204 01:40:23,920 --> 01:40:29,440 if we can't do here, what do we want to do there? And I know that you had a plan 1205 01:40:27,199 --> 01:40:34,480 and you you always do. So thanks. >> Thank you. And I'll I'll I'll give a 1206 01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:42,000 little hint on that that um we are going to um do a joint um session with the 1207 01:40:39,199 --> 01:40:46,719 with the school district and we will be um bringing them to the table as well as 1208 01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:52,400 all of us at a study session and discuss the potential option that we have. Did 1209 01:40:50,159 --> 01:40:54,880 you want to say something on that bill? >> No. 1210 01:40:53,199 --> 01:40:55,920 » Okay. I just thought you were waving your hand. 1211 01:40:55,360 --> 01:41:03,040 » I was >> okay. So, um, so this Monday was my 1212 01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:06,960 birthday. My wife made me a, uh, Cookie Monster cake to celebrate, and then she 1213 01:41:05,440 --> 01:41:11,679 had to use up the rest of the frosting because she had too much. So, they made 1214 01:41:08,719 --> 01:41:16,960 a dozen or so cupcakes. And so, being as council never gets to participate in any 1215 01:41:13,440 --> 01:41:21,760 of these uh, staff level things. I I gave everybody a cupcake. 1216 01:41:19,520 --> 01:41:25,440 So, they came from me, not just from a random person. [laughter] 1217 01:41:23,440 --> 01:41:28,560 » So, we know, don't eat them. Well, 1218 01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:32,159 » can we sing happy birthday? [laughter] Lower the 1219 01:41:29,119 --> 01:41:38,719 » No, it's not my birthday anymore. >> Thank your wife for these. And also, I 1220 01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:46,400 want to um thank uh um uh Robert Alver Alvarez uh Jr. for uh coming all this 1221 01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:51,760 way. Um and um we're very excited to be a Purple Heart City and all of the 1222 01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:58,000 veterans that are out there as well and in up here as well. and the people 1223 01:41:54,639 --> 01:42:02,000 continuing to serve for us. So, um, with that, I'll be Yes. 1224 01:41:59,840 --> 01:42:06,480 » Uh, I just I would like to acknowledge the elected in the room that, uh, with 1225 01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:10,560 Scadget County Commissioner Ron Whis has been, uh, in the room the entire meeting 1226 01:42:08,639 --> 01:42:14,719 and thank you for visiting us. With that, I'd move to. 1227 01:42:12,239 --> 01:42:17,280 » All right. Um, all those in favor signify by saying 1228 01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:19,920 I. >> I. 1229 01:42:18,159 --> 01:42:22,920 » Thank you very much. Motion to adjourn. 7:41 1230 01:42:38,639 --> 01:42:42,800 » beautiful. >> I know it. It's I'm so excited.