[0:30] It is August 26th, 2026 and at 6 p.m.
I'll call this meeting to order. Will
[0:36] you please stand and do the pledge of
allegiance with us?
[0:41] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
[0:46] republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[0:52] justice for all.
[0:58] » All right, we'll start with roll call.
Councilman Caul,
[1:02] » here.
>> Councilman Ly
[1:03] » here.
>> Councilman Henderson,
[1:06] » here.
>> Councilman Labbaka,
[1:08] » present.
>> Councilman Cox,
[1:10] » here.
>> Councilman D. Young,
[1:11] » present.
>> And Councilwoman Peterson,
[1:14] » present.
Do I have an approval for the agenda?
[1:20] » Madam Mayor, I'll make a motion to
approve the agenda.
[1:23] » Second.
>> Oh. Oh. Ty. [laughter]
[1:25] » All right. We have a motion to approve
the agenda by Councilman Lvaka, seconded
[1:30] by Councilwoman Peterson. All those in
favor signify by saying I.
[1:34] » I.
>> Any oppose? Same sign.
[1:37] » Motion passes. And before I do the
consent agenda, I'm going to pass it to
[1:42] Bill.
>> Thank you. I had just had one
[1:45] clarification. So, um our surplus
property u uh item in the consent
[1:51] agenda, the resolution number that's in
the uh cover page is correct and uh only
[1:58] the placeholder resolution numbers on
the actual resolution, but uh it has
[2:03] been corrected now and it is resolution
um 11 193-26.
[2:11] » Okay. Thank you very much. So, with
that, I'd be looking for a motion to
[2:16] approve the consent agenda.
[2:19] » A motion to approve. Second.
>> All right. We have a motion by
[2:24] Councilman Henderson, seconded by
Councilman D. Young. Um, all those in
[2:28] favor signify by saying I.
>> I.
[2:30] » Any oppose? Same sign.
>> Motion passes.
[2:36] All right. We will begin with a swearing
in. Sabrina. So, would you like to come
[2:42] forward up here?
[3:16] All right. Will you raise your right
hand and repeat after me? I, Zabrina
[3:21] Nybo,
>> I, Sabrina Nybo,
[3:23] » do hereby declare
>> do hereby declare
[3:26] » that I will support the Constitution of
the United States
[3:29] » that I will support the Constitution of
the United States
[3:31] » the Constitution of the State of
Washington
[3:33] » the constit constitution of the state of
Washington
[3:37] » and that as a member
>> and that as a member
[3:39] » of the city of Cedar Willy fired
[3:44] » of this
>> well let's do um let's not do the city
[3:47] of Cedar
let's do The city of Cedar Willy Police
[3:52] Department.
>> City of Cedar Willy Police Department.
[3:55] » Okay. My fundamental duty
>> My fundamental duty
[3:58] » is to serve the people I swear to
protect
[4:01] » is to serve the people I serve to
protect.
[4:03] » To safeguard and preserve life.
>> To safeguard and preserve life.
[4:07] » Health and property
>> health and property
[4:09] » against fire and other perils
>> against fire and other perils.
[4:13] » And to maintain
>> And to maintain
[4:15] » a proficiency in the police service. of
proficiency in the police service.
[4:20] » I recognize the badge
>> I recognize the badge
[4:23] » of my office
>> of my office
[4:25] » as a symbol
>> as a symbol
[4:27] » of public faith
>> of public faith
[4:29] » and trust
>> and trust
[4:31] » and I accept
>> and I accept
[4:33] » so long as I am true
>> so long as I am true
[4:35] » to the ethics of the police service
>> to the ethics of the police service
[4:41] » and make these promises
>> and make these promises
[4:43] » so solemnly
>> so solemnly
[4:45] » freely
>> freely
[4:46] » and upon my honor upon my honor.
>> Welcome.
[4:50] » Thank you.
>> Thank you very much. [applause]
[5:10] » All right. Now, we'll start with the
city administrator report. Uh
[5:15] » yes, no report this evening.
[5:19] And moving on to council member report.
Councilman
[5:25] » Thank you. Um I attended the public
works open house here right in this room
[5:31] and I learned a lot more about projects
including the city projects and the
[5:36] three more roundabouts planned for Cook
Road. I also attended the second concert
[5:41] in the park at the Swift Center. Really
good attendance, excellent music. The
[5:46] third of these concerts put on by the
Swift Center Foundation is with the
[5:50] Scadget Symphony on September 12th,
which should be great. I was also
[5:55] delighted to see via an announcement on
Facebook of the new school resource
[6:00] officer, Rachel Hamburgg. That should
make uh our schools safer. Also, kudos
[6:07] to the police department with several
very difficult cases, including taking a
[6:12] murder suspect from Oregon into custody.
I know that was an easy situation after
[6:17] a standoff and uh resolving a
million-doll fraud case. Really good
[6:22] work. Also, school starts next week, so
watch out for children. You should try.
[6:27] Thank you,
[6:31] » Councilman Ly.
[6:35] » Last weekend, we had our annual
what do they call those things with the
[6:40] little wheels on them? Anyway,
I'm gonna let Carl tell you about it
[6:43] because Carl talked to everybody that
was there, but it was a successful
[6:48] weekend and I don't how many we ever
figure out how many we've had?
[6:51] » Yeah, we had over a hundred people
participate and uh the bleachers were
[6:56] packed. It was standing room only and uh
yeah, we'll keep talking about it. Great
[7:01] event, Kevin.
>> Good time was had by all
[7:05] we might as well say and provided. Was
was that you that bought the pizza,
[7:11] Charlie?
>> Um, yeah, this the uh Hidden Wave
[7:15] actually bought the purchased the pizza.
Um, but the city is going to reimburse
[7:20] them for that.
>> And then Nick bought a couple couple
[7:25] cases full of drinks.
What else? Somebody else
[7:30] provided something.
>> Well, we had the mayor in attendance and
[7:34] I brought some chips and uh, you know,
it's just stone soup. Everyone wanted to
[7:39] come by and really wanted to give a
shout out to the fire department for
[7:42] being there to uh staff a booth and talk
safety and be there in case there was an
[7:46] incident.
>> And they provided helmets.
[7:47] » That's right. That's right.
>> For free.
[7:52] » Good time was had by all and we kind of
made it up as we went along.
[7:56] » Perfect. Thank you, Councilman
Henderson.
[8:00] » Thank you, Mayor. I'd like to start by
uh welcoming Officer Nibbo to uh our
[8:05] police department. That's a a great uh
role to fill. She did a great job out in
[8:10] Manacortis and I know she she's going to
do a great job out here. Uh I'd love to
[8:14] see that. Um last week I had the
opportunity of attending the uh grand
[8:20] reopening of the senior center. It was a
really great event. Uh a lot of people
[8:24] in attendance. The cake was fantastic.
Um and uh I was honored to be uh asked
[8:30] to give a few words at that uh ceremony.
Um it was nice to see uh Councilman Cox
[8:37] and Councilman D. Young who's always
there every Monday washing dishes in
[8:41] case anybody else wants to help
volunteer too. Um alongside of the mayor
[8:45] and uh Charlie Bush and Nate Salcino
were both there and they were both
[8:50] recognized for their efforts in uh the
opening of uh the senior center and us
[8:55] getting that stood up. So uh great to
see that here in our community. Thank
[8:59] you.
>> Thank you. All right, Councilman Lvaka.
[9:03] » Thank you very much, Madam Mayor. Um, so
on that note, I wanted to touch base on
[9:08] the senior center. I wasn't able to
attend that, but since then, I've heard
[9:11] um from a lot of the people that were
very eager to see that stood up and and
[9:15] protected. We're very excited about what
we've done, what you guys have really
[9:18] done, what Charlie, you have done, and
and the um the city. So, it's just a
[9:23] major blessing to them, and they do want
that to be continually expressed to the
[9:26] city. Um, we are very stoked that we
have a safety resource officer for the
[9:30] the high school. Um, I've gotten really
good feedback about that. Great timing
[9:34] on that and and it'll be a great time to
to see how that works out over this next
[9:38] year and years to come. Um, and how that
integrates with the students, but from
[9:42] what I heard from a number of the
students is they're looking forward to
[9:45] it actually. Um, so that's really great.
Uh, that's that's about it. Thank you.
[9:50] » Perfect. Councilman Cox,
[9:56] » just a busy time. Oh my goodness. So, so
great. I I want to uh talk to my council
[10:01] members here. Mentioning them again. The
log jam was great. I brought my kids and
[10:05] to see the interaction of the skaters,
uh, everyone that was in charge of, uh,
[10:12] actually putting it on. I I really don't
think you just did it by by whim. I
[10:16] think you did a great job, Kevin. Uh
it's something that we'll continue to uh
[10:20] visit because it was wonderful. I have
an 11 and 12-year-old. I saw so many
[10:24] kids. They they saw friends. Uh and for
us personally, that's exactly what I
[10:28] talk about when we're bringing people
into our city and we're doing it. It's
[10:31] free. I kept wondering where do I put
the money when I was grabbing a slice of
[10:35] pizza. So, thank you for feeding my
family as well. So, that was a wonderful
[10:39] thing. We also got a little bit out of
that um with some uh minor repairs that
[10:42] we're going to do to the park. So
through that we were able to you know
[10:46] better our our environment. I wanted to
mention the senior center too as a kid
[10:50] that grew up uh being raised by lots of
seniors and being around seniors most of
[10:55] my life. Uh invaluable. So thank you for
supporting them. I mean that's a huge
[11:00] thing. There's so much we can learn from
our our peers and those that have been
[11:04] here before us. So I really really
really enjoyed that. So thank you. Uh
[11:08] other things too just mentioning end of
summer school starting. I've been to the
[11:11] Cascade Middle School. excited to see
all the kids, the teachers, the
[11:15] resources are great. So, it's very fun
for me as a parent uh to see that
[11:19] there's some support going on for those
kids. Uh and please, please, anyone
[11:22] watching, pay attention. There's new
roundabouts, new roads. Uh we really
[11:26] need to uh make sure they're safe. Okay.
Uh the other thing, too, is uh the
[11:31] resource officer. I same thing. Boy,
we're investing in our kids and our
[11:36] community. So, let's continue to support
these things. I'm enjoying it. Uh, and
[11:41] again, I keep saying that, but just
thank you for so much. It's a great I
[11:45] think this is a great week. We're really
going into the next season, fall, in a
[11:49] good way. Our city is healthy. The
concerts are uh definitely coming back.
[11:54] They're so great. But just uh thank you
guys for for those of you that come to
[11:57] join, for those of you online, thank you
for joining it. And please share this
[12:00] with your uh family and friends because
uh we want this to be a livable city.
[12:05] That's all. Mayor,
>> thank you, Councilman D. Young. Thank
[12:09] you, Madam Mayor. Uh, since our last
meeting, just a few things to report.
[12:13] Uh, we held the Cedro Woolly log jam at
the skate park. Uh, that's been me
[12:19] mentioned. And, uh, I did want to tell
one quick story about, uh, a dad who,
[12:27] uh, put his daughter on a skateboard for
the first time there. And I was able to
[12:32] capture that moment with the permission
and with photograph. But then to dive a
[12:37] little deeper into the story, he
was was skateboarding the first day it
[12:43] opened. And so uh I just thought that
was just wonderful that we've seen that
[12:48] sustainability and that continuity and
uh watch it uh happen uh handed down
[12:54] generation to generation. And that's
really what happens at this event is
[12:57] bringing families together. It's
kid-friendly event and it really anchors
[13:02] the community. And I really think it's
uh I just want to thank thank Kevin for
[13:06] all the hard work he's put into that uh
year after year. And um the hard work
[13:11] the city puts together uh Charlie who
facilitates uh our meetings. It as you
[13:17] say it it looks smooth but that takes a
lot of planning and a lot of people and
[13:21] a lot of passionate people and and you
know it's done by volunteers and uh from
[13:26] from the poster to uh the the music
that's played um the the microphones uh
[13:34] you know it's just it's just a great way
of having the community get together and
[13:39] happy to be part of it. Uh we met again
this morning for the event debrief with
[13:43] uh while everything was still fresh and
the conversation was really about
[13:47] keeping what worked uh fixing what needs
improvement. Uh they already got the
[13:51] potholes fixed that uh we took
photographs of so thank you for that and
[13:55] then we also talked about what to do
with the coping there and then making
[13:59] next year's event just a little easier
uh for everyone involved. Um then uh as
[14:05] a representative on the board for
Scadget Transit, I began the onboarding
[14:09] process on on August 18th. We covered
governance, finance, operations,
[14:15] planning, and um some of the
responsibilities that come with
[14:21] representing Cedar Woolly on the board.
Uh there's more to cover, so that work
[14:26] will continue on boarding in September.
I also uh participated um in the Scadget
[14:33] Transit meeting uh on the 19th. Uh the
board worked through the transit
[14:37] development plan uh community advisory
appointments uh fair free service for an
[14:43] upcoming event and proposed bylaws. So,
the bylaws were held uh over for some
[14:49] additional review and uh Scadget Transit
uh council has invited input from board
[14:55] members before they come back to us and
I appreciate having the opportunity to
[14:59] work through those governance questions
carefully. Uh looking ahead, I'll be at
[15:03] the Chamber of Commerce uh lunchon next
week or next Wednesday. always value the
[15:08] opportunity to hear directly from the
local businesses uh community and stay
[15:12] connected with what they're seeing and
experiencing here in Cedar Woolly. And
[15:17] of course, Labor Day is coming up on
Monday the 7th. Uh there'll be many
[15:22] Labor Day activities. Uh I encourage you
to participate. Uh Labor Day is worth
[15:28] more than simply uh marking the end of
the summer. It's an opportunity to
[15:32] recognize the people whose work uh
builds our communities uh keeps them
[15:38] running and provides the service we all
depend on. And I hope everyone has a
[15:42] safe and enjoyable Labor Day weekend.
That's it for me.
[15:46] » Perfect. Councilwoman Peterson.
>> Um Bill, you put on a really great open
[15:52] house. I you know people are really
interested in those road repairs and the
[15:56] different things that are happening with
our transportation infrastructure and it
[16:01] was great to see community members who
have come to me asking questions to be
[16:06] able to go directly to uh city city
staff and wash dot staff to ask ask
[16:13] those questions and get them answered.
Everyone was really happy with the it
[16:17] was just really impressive. Um, I also
held a community event for W three. Um,
[16:23] one of the participants called it a
think tank, which I really liked. As
[16:27] council members, we don't have any staff
doing the research to inform our policy
[16:33] decisions. So, it's really helpful to
hear directly from constituents. Um, I
[16:38] collected a lot of good feedback. I put
it in a spreadsheet and emailed it out
[16:41] to everyone who was willing to give me
their email address. Uh the top issues
[16:45] were opposition to move moving the ball
fields to the northern state recreation
[16:51] area, good strong community,
um developing a future playground on
[16:57] Reed Street, encouraging diversity and
inclusivity in the community, road
[17:02] repairs, which everyone learned about at
the open house. Um prohibiting data
[17:08] centers, which is actually something
we're going to be addressing today. Um,
[17:12] so that was a really good opportunity
and I'd like to thank everyone who came
[17:17] and I'm excited to do it again.
>> All right, perfect.
[17:23] So, thank you guys all for I'm always
last and so you guys had really
[17:29] wonderful things to say about everything
going on in the community and I am 100%
[17:34] in agreeance. So, I'm going to just go
straight to um the opportunity that I
[17:38] had this week, which was to meet the
amazing team at our journey and learn
[17:43] more about the important work they are
doing for youth in Scadget County. I'm
[17:48] so grateful to Mr. and Mrs. Sanchez
along with their mentors and staff for
[17:52] the heart they put into supporting our
young people through mentorship, lived
[17:56] experience, and genuine connection. They
are helping youth feel supported, find
[18:00] healing, and build a positive path
forward. what they're doing for our
[18:04] kiddos, their families, and our
community is truly making a difference.
[18:07] And for those of you who don't know,
they're just right across the street,
[18:11] right over here, doing good work. Um, so
that's what I have for that.
[18:19] And, um, now we will move on. Be uh,
let's see, before I read tonight's
[18:25] proclamation, I want to take a moment to
recognize Senator Keith Wagner, who
[18:31] helped bring us to this important first
step and uh George Baldridge American
[18:37] Legion Post43
for collaborating with the city as we
[18:41] begin this process of becoming a Purple
Heart city. Uh we are also honored to
[18:47] welcome Robert Alz
[18:51] Jr.
uh the past national commander of the
[18:56] military order of the purple heart of
the USA. Uh most importantly, I want to
[19:01] recognize the Purple Heart recipients
who are with us along with all of our
[19:05] veterans and everyone who came here
tonight to show their support. Uh
[19:10] becoming a Purple Heart city is not an
honor the city earns. It is our
[19:15] commitment to honor those who have been
awarded the Purple Heart through their
[19:19] sacrifice and service to our country.
And with that, it is my honor to read
[19:25] the Purple Heart City Proclamation.
So the city of Cedar Woolly's uh
[19:32] Washington proclamation in recognition
of Cedar Woolly as a Purple Heart city.
[19:39] Whereas the city of Cedar Woolly has a
proud and enduring tradition of
[19:43] supporting members of the United States
Armed Forces, our veterans and their
[19:47] families who have served and sacrificed
in defense of the freedoms enjoyed by
[19:52] everyday American. And whereas the
Purple Heart Medal is the oldest
[19:57] military decoration
in present use, originally created as
[20:03] the badge of military merit by General
George Washington in 1782
[20:08] and was the first award made available
to the common soldier. And whereas the
[20:14] Purple Heart Medal is awarded in the
name of the President of the United
[20:18] States to members of the armed forces
of the United States who have been
[20:23] wounded in combat or who have made the
ultimate sacrifice and given their lives
[20:28] in action against a declared enemy of
the United States of America. And
[20:33] whereas the mission of the military
order of the Purple Heart is to foster
[20:38] an environment of goodwill among combat
wounded veterans and their families, to
[20:44] promote patriotism, to support
legislative initiatives, and to ensure
[20:49] that the sacrifices of our military
service members are never forgotten. And
[20:54] whereas the city of Cedar Woolly is home
to veterans of every era, including
[21:01] combat wounded veterans and Purple Heart
recipients, and recognizes the courage,
[21:07] dedication, and selfless service
represented by the Purple Heart Medal.
[21:13] And whereas National Purple Heart Day is
observed annually on August 7th to honor
[21:19] the brave men and women who have been
wounded or killed while serving in the
[21:23] United States military and to remember
and honor all Purple Heart recipients.
[21:29] And whereas the city of Cedar Woolly
wishes to express its profound
[21:34] appreciation, gratitude, and respect for
all military veterans, combat veterans,
[21:40] Purple Heart recipients, and the
families who support them, and to
[21:44] formally join the growing number of
communities standing as Purple Heart
[21:48] cities. Now therefore, be it proclaimed
that I, Joel and Casty, as mayor of the
[21:54] city of Cedar Woolly, do hereby
recognize the city of Cedar Woolly as a
[21:59] Purple Heart City, honoring the service
and sacrifice of all members of the
[22:04] United States Armed Forces who have been
wounded or killed in combat and
[22:09] recognizing all Purple Heart recipients,
past, present, and future, together with
[22:14] the families who supported them. Be it
further resolved that the city of Cedar
[22:18] Woolly calls upon its residents,
businesses, schools, and civic
[22:23] organizations to recognize the
contributions and sacrifices of Purple
[22:28] Heart recipients and the courage they
have shown in defense of our nation.
[22:33] Observe National Purple Heart Day on
August 7th each year throughout
[22:38] appropriate ceremonies, educational
programs, and acts of remembrance.
[22:43] support combat wounded veterans, their
families, and gold star families through
[22:48] committee community engagement and
service. Promote awareness of the
[22:54] history and meaning of the Purple Heart
Medal among all generations of Cedar
[22:58] Willy residents. Show all Purple Heart
recipients the lasting honor, gratitude,
[23:03] and welcome they have earned in our
community. Proclaimed by the mayor on
[23:08] the 26th day of August 2026, city of
Cedar Woolly.
[23:16] [applause]
[23:22] [applause]
[23:28] » [applause]
[23:30] » And with that, I invite um Robert to
come forward.
[23:42] » Bet you guys all thought
Let me uh if you turn that one
[23:48] microphone around, the one in front.
>> Yep. And then press the blue button. Um
[23:53] on behalf on behalf of the military or
the Purple Heart, we'd like to say thank
[23:57] you for appreciating our combat wounded
veterans. There's actually we have
[24:01] accounted for about a little over 16,000
here in Washington. Cedra Woolly. I went
[24:06] through the books and you guys have five
that are living. You have about 20 that
[24:11] are deceased. As Scadget County accounts
for a little over 120 total. Um I do not
[24:17] live in Scadget County, but I grew up in
Scadget County. I graduated from Mount
[24:21] Vernon back in the 90s, like my kids
say, back in the 1900s. Um, but I am
[24:26] actually the youngest person to date to
run an organization. So, I represented
[24:30] half a million combat wounded veterans
all the way from the last guys of World
[24:35] War II up until present. So, I got to
meet both presidents, talk on our
[24:39] behalf. So, this this meant a lot for
me. Actually, when you messaged
[24:43] National, which is our headquarters in
DC, I got a phone call telling telling
[24:48] them telling me that I was dropping the
ball. I was like, I'm on vacation. Leave
[24:51] me alone. That's when I found out that
you reached out. So, I appreciate it. I
[24:55] actually grew up in Mount Vernon, but I
was born out in Woodby on the base. I do
[24:58] come from a military family. So, with
that, um, our our organization, um,
[25:04] appreciates you, um, honoring us. Um,
I've been working at making all of
[25:08] Washington cities and counties purple
heart uh cities and counties. So, I'm
[25:13] I'm happy to acknowledge that Cedra
Woolly is the first one in Scadget
[25:17] County. So, I've been talking to the
Saga County Commissioners
[25:22] uh working with them to get the county
going and hopefully everybody will
[25:26] follow suit and notice that Cedar Woolly
is leading the way so I can get all the
[25:31] towns here um just to honor our
veterans. We don't ask for much, but one
[25:35] little signage or a proclamation showing
that you honor a combat wounded goes a
[25:40] long way. It actually helps them out
with their mental status. They actually
[25:44] see that they're probably helping the
community and then they have to take
[25:47] next step to reaching out to either a
veteran organization or to your law
[25:52] enforcement agency who has train on how
to deescalate and talk to people and try
[25:57] to bring them back what to what I call
the ground level. So, we appreciate it.
[26:00] On behalf of uh chapter 12, wait, we
changed our name. The Pacific Northwest
[26:05] chapter 12, uh we have a Purple Heart
flag for you guys to fly every August
[26:10] 7th to take up. Um and if you want a
fancier one, we got the fancier ones. I
[26:15] just have these ones in the car because
it's easier to carry a lighter flag. So,
[26:20] um on behalf of all Purple Heart
recipients, thank you.
[26:23] » Thank you.
[26:35] Mayor, could I interrupt?
>> Yes.
[26:37] » Can Can we put some kind of plaque or
something entering under entering town?
[26:41] It says we're a Purple Heart City.
>> That is such a good idea.
[26:44] » So,
I I did email your your your mayor here.
[26:49] There there is signage that I authorized
and I gave her authorization. um because
[26:54] you need authorization to use our
likeness which is our purple heart
[26:57] medal. So, she has an example of the
signs that we have here in Washington
[27:01] that you guys can put wherever you want.
City hall, most cities like to put them
[27:05] on the entrance as you're coming in.
>> Yeah.
[27:08] » And which is really big for a lot of
people. And also with this once I get
[27:13] your official proclamation emailed, I'll
put it on our website, which is the
[27:17] Purple Heart Trail. So everybody who uh
goes through it'll see that Cedar Woolly
[27:21] is a Purple Heart friendly town and
that's how we help you with tourism is
[27:27] we actually have a lot of hits on our
website to see people actually do look
[27:31] veterans actually do look to see who
appreciates military and we're not
[27:35] asking for discounts. It's just if we
come here we'll know we're accepted
[27:39] especially whichever era you fought in.
So, it's a big thing for us and and
[27:44] another thing for y'all to have new
tourism when you when you guys put up
[27:47] the signs and we put you guys up on our
Purple Heart Trail.
[27:51] » Thank you so much and thank you for your
service.
[27:54] » Madam Mayor, if I may, on that note,
too. Oh, go
[27:57] » one second. We will be um having a um a
ceremony uh officially dedicating when
[28:03] the signs do come in and that is going
to be planned uh in early November. So,
[28:08] we will be able to do that. And um uh
before I open it up to council for
[28:14] everything, can I also be able I know um
to have uh Senator Wagner come up as
[28:20] well um to say a few words.
[28:26] » So um it's I played a very small piece
in this, but I'm glad that you asked me
[28:33] to speak about it because I feel
strongly about it. I went to a ceremony
[28:37] in my in my legislative district in
Granite Falls and I saw their ceremony
[28:42] and I went, "Wow, this is something that
fits with the community of Cedar Woolly
[28:47] and I pitched the idea to Mayor Casty
because I knew the council would be
[28:52] behind her on this. I did not think you
would move so quickly. I was thinking
[28:57] maybe six months or a year from now we
would be doing this, but bam um almost
[29:03] immediately. So, I'm really excited
about it and I and I wanted to talk
[29:07] about at least one of the members and
maybe Councilman Lvaka can go into it a
[29:12] little more detail. Um, one of our
Purple Heart members from town uh had
[29:18] breakfast with Councilman Lvaka, Mayor
Casty, and myself because he was so
[29:23] excited about this, but he was going to
be um he had a medical procedure and he
[29:27] and his wife couldn't make it tonight. I
hope they make the official one. So,
[29:32] it's already inspiring people that that
we're hoping to honor and I feel really
[29:37] good about that. So, the the credit goes
to the mayor and the council for getting
[29:42] this off the ground so quickly. I so
appreciate all of you. Thank you.
[29:47] » You um
[29:53] and and then on on the the spirit of
this, a very special man, Tim Smith. uh
[30:02] made his own. Would you like to come up
and speak about it before?
[30:08] Handcarved.
>> Yeah, I handcarved it. I had in my heart
[30:12] to do this and
for all my brothers and sisters that
[30:16] earned it.
[30:25] [applause]
[30:32] Thank you so much.
>> Oh, you're very welcome. Wish I could do
[30:34] more.
>> Oh, you this. Thank you so much for this
[30:38] because uh we are going to hang this up
in city hall. It's going to be right
[30:42] next to the proclamation and it is
absolutely gorgeous.
[30:46] » Thank you.
[30:50] » Very welcome.
>> Thank you so much.
[30:51] » Yes, ma'am.
>> Thank you. [applause]
[30:55] Sure.
[31:06] » All right. And now we'll open it up.
Council Labaka.
[31:10] » Thank you very much. Yeah. Trying to
find the right time to to mention. I
[31:13] didn't want to spoil it during the
council report, but um my neighbor who's
[31:18] become my good friend down the road on
Ball Street. He's 86 years old. He
[31:22] received a Purple Heart in Vietnam in
the 178th and um he like Senator Wagner
[31:28] mentioned he was really excited about
the city taking in part in doing that
[31:33] and seeing us really active and engaged
for the the efforts and the sacrifice
[31:39] that he and and many of the people that
were with him gave. And so he wasn't
[31:44] able to make it. And I ended up calling
up Senator Wagner and the mayor and
[31:48] seeing, "Are you guys willing to come
down for breakfast on short notice and
[31:52] just have breakfast with them?" And you
guys dropped everything and came down
[31:55] and had breakfast with him. I mean,
really amazing that you were willing to
[31:59] do that. And it meant so much to him.
I'm proud to report that he he made it
[32:03] through the surgery just fine and um he
did good. It was an invasive surgery, so
[32:07] it was a little bit difficult and we
didn't know how it was going to go, but
[32:10] he seems like he's doing good right now.
So, we'll see. And thank you both again.
[32:14] Thank you for putting that together.
He's an extraordinary man and I look
[32:17] forward to seeing him in November at our
ceremony. Uh I'll open it up to any
[32:23] other council members who might have any
questions or anything.
[32:28] » Councilman Henderson.
>> Thank you, Madam Mayor. Um I just want
[32:32] to take a minute and recognize uh all
all the additional people in the crowd
[32:35] that um support our veterans and Purple
Heart members. I see we have um uh
[32:41] George Baldridge uh post here. Um have
many others. I recognize John Fernandez
[32:48] there in the back. Thank you for your
service, sir. And uh and everyone else
[32:53] who uh who was a part of this. And
that's the most beautiful hand carving
[32:57] I've ever seen.
>> So, thank you very much for that.
[33:05] » Councilwoman Peterson.
>> Thank you, Tim. This is really amazing.
[33:09] I've never seen anything like this
before and I'm really looking forward to
[33:13] the ceremony in November. I'm hoping I
can get that on my calendar soon.
[33:20] » Councilman
>> uh, first of all, wonderful carving.
[33:24] Just it's beautiful. Thank you so much.
And I don't think we can do enough to
[33:30] help and support our veterans and our
community. And the best of the best are
[33:36] our Purple Heart recipients who gave
everything just about for our country.
[33:42] So I la their patriotism. Thank you.
[33:48] » Would it be inappropriate if I could get
us to go down there and get a picture
[33:54] with everyone who's in here who came
tonight to um do this? Could we could we
[34:00] get a photograph of everyone? Would
everyone be all right with that?
[34:10] He's got it.
>> This one.
[34:30] » Get home and start practicing.
[34:35] » [clears throat]
[34:46] » Everybody
>> come on.
[34:59] Everybody
[35:14] » know. [laughter]
[35:39] They'll know when they get to see us
[35:54] represents all the combat veterans.
[36:04] Normally it's like a little piece of
paper.
[36:08] Did I give you one?
[36:17] » But I'm like the guy organization. So
when I walked in President Trump,
[36:23] where's your
young
[36:30] depends on when you guys
[37:01] Yeah, good call.
>> That's amazing.
[37:48] We'll wait for
>> Oh, I like that. Good job.
[37:56] » No, that's fine.
>> Absolutely. It's a celebration. This is
[38:00] a wonderful thing.
[38:05] Once again, thank you to all the
veterans who are out there and um who
[38:09] are out online as well and serving in
our community and across the states. Um
[38:15] now we will uh move on to
public comments and I don't have the
[38:23] sheet in front of me. So what I'll do is
if um if anyone wants to come up and
[38:28] give public comment, please uh come up.
We uh
[38:34] we'll see if anybody
[38:42] Okay,
sweet. Will you take that baby
[38:46] microphone then and put it right back up
there? Thank you.
[38:53] I appreciate you, Andrew.
[39:01] I wasn't planning on uh coming up here
to uh complain two weeks in a row about
[39:05] the same thing, but I forgot a few
things and now I have a Q card.
[39:10] » I love it.
>> Do that again. But uh last week I
[39:13] brought up all the trashy signs around
the city that basically pop up ads and
[39:20] uh kind of forgot to elaborate more
about it, why I hate them so much, but
[39:25] there's a a thing called the the broken
window effect or the broken window
[39:29] theory. I won't explain it all. You can
Google it. But basically, when you hold
[39:35] no standard,
you enforce no standard. the neighbors
[39:40] screen windows are falling out of their
house. Their gutters are falling off.
[39:44] The next neighbor doesn't mow their
lawn. The next neighbor,
[39:49] you know, has broken down lawnmowers in
their front yard. They kind of just
[39:54] every the whole neighborhood go down
goes downhill. Uh that's kind of how I
[39:59] feel about these signs. A perfect
example would be the Cook Road by I5
[40:03] intersection.
You got weeds four feet tall. Every
[40:07] single power pole has about three signs
on it saying, "Uh, we buy your house for
[40:11] cash. Got usually one or two pan
handlers."
[40:17] That's because no one no one cares. No
one cleans it up. Uh,
[40:23] today I took down another 41 signs in
about an hour just in the normal routes
[40:30] that I take on a daily basis. I didn't
dump them on the floor this time. I just
[40:35] brought one that you know Ron Burgundy
would say uh stay classy Cedar Willie.
[40:42] » I've noticed it for about a month, but
right here it was on uh June 19th it's
[40:47] been up and I took it down today just
right on Highway 20 or I guess I should
[40:52] say stay classy 708 Ferry Street.
But uh
[41:00] yeah, that's I mean it just kind of
brings everything down. Um,
[41:06] you know, we got codes about these
things. You know, chapter 17.40. I'm not
[41:11] going to try to read it, but it's pretty
simple that you can't just plop a sign
[41:18] wherever you feel like. I mean, if you
want to put a sign on your own property,
[41:22] your own building that you own, you got
to listen to a high council of people
[41:26] that lecture you about the size of your
sign, the size of the letters on your
[41:30] sign, if the colors coordinate with your
sign. But, you know, we just let these
[41:36] things go everywhere. I mean, there's
there's a lot of city employees, not
[41:40] just code enforcement, that drive a
truck that says the city of Cedari on
[41:43] the side of it that mow the lawn or
paint stripes on the road. It wouldn't
[41:49] be that difficult to just pick one up
and put it behind the seat and throw it
[41:52] in the garbage. I mean, I'm happy to
just keep on taking them down. I'm I'm
[41:56] sure I'm sure all the the businesses
would like to have them back. Maybe I'll
[42:01] ransom them. ransom their signs, but uh
you know they're only worth about a
[42:06] buck. That's why they leave them
everywhere. Nobody nobody abandons a
[42:10] $100 A-frame sign.
>> That's
[42:15] » the Emmy the Emmys are playing me off.
But uh anyways, yeah, it just uh
[42:21] maybe just I plan on harping about city
beautifification for the next couple
[42:26] months. Hope this will be the last time
about signs, but uh you know, a a little
[42:30] bit of cleanliness goes a long ways to
making people not think this is a dump
[42:36] to live. So,
>> thank you, Andrew.
[42:41] Is there anybody else who didn't sign up
but might want to speak?
[42:46] » All right. Um then, um Thomas, do you
see anybody online?
[42:53] Uh if anyone online would like to make a
public comment, go ahead and use the
[42:57] raise hands feature. We'll wait a few
seconds for everyone who wants to and if
[43:01] there's anyone will speak.
[43:12] » All right.
Hearing
[43:15] » uh I'm not seeing anyone using that
feature.
[43:18] » Okay, perfect. Then we will uh go on
to our new business.
[43:25] Um,
and since Kelly's not here, we'll we'll
[43:29] take it to you, Charlie.
>> Yep. First item here is resolution
[43:32] 118626.
It's donation acceptance from the
[43:35] Burlington Senior Center Advisory Board.
Uh, this is a unsolicited u donation
[43:42] that we received from the uh folks in
Burlington and their senior center
[43:45] advisory board. They're a nonprofit that
uh works with the senior centers. Uh we
[43:49] have we have one here in Cedar Woolly as
well. Uh we hired the uh Burlington
[43:54] coordinator from their senior center and
we have seen some resources uh coming
[43:58] along with her. Uh and and it's been
fantastic. This particular donation uh
[44:03] is for $5,000 to help us with our IT
needs to essentially um fully network
[44:09] the uh the building. uh and and we have
uh needed to do that because the county
[44:16] previously was operating the building
and so the county had its IT
[44:18] infrastructure in there. They're in the
process of pulling that out. Now we've
[44:21] got work to do to to make sure that we
connect the building. So that is the
[44:25] nature of this. I got a request earlier
today whether these were federal funds.
[44:30] Um no indication these are federal
funds. Uh this is nonprofit money. I
[44:34] believe it's all local money. We'll
verify all of that before we certainly
[44:38] uh spend anything. But uh yeah, that's
what this is. It's $5,000. It was
[44:42] unexpected. We didn't apply for it or
anything. And uh it's an opportunity to
[44:46] uh benefit our senior center further.
[44:51] » Uh Councilman Henderson.
>> Thank you, Mayor. Um it it's also worth
[44:57] noting uh when I was at the senior
center the other day, they had um they
[45:01] had a second check that the Burlington
advisory uh senior advisory board was uh
[45:07] donating to the Cedar Woolly uh senior
center advisory board. So they're um
[45:13] they're really enthusiastic and have a
vested interest in making sure that uh
[45:17] you know we're uh successful with this
endeavor for our seniors. Uh really
[45:22] great to see. Um,
uh, I just wanted to, uh, wanted to
[45:29] thank them, uh, for this very incredibly
generous donation. Um, from what I
[45:35] understand, these are uh all of the
money that their uh nonprofit has, they
[45:41] raise in local fundraisers and uh do do
fundraising and um they actually invest
[45:47] their money very wisely in um putting it
in CDs in the bank and uh highinterest
[45:53] uh uh sa uh savings accounts so they can
actually uh grow their money and they'll
[45:58] have it to spend when they need on uh
programs and uh other such things. So,
[46:03] um, I'm I'm very grateful to see this
and I'm very excited to vote yes on this
[46:08] resolution.
>> All right. Oh, Councilwoman Peterson,
[46:14] » I'd also like to express our gratitude
that this just so generous for our
[46:19] neighboring city to um provide this as
we're transitioning our senior center.
[46:25] So, this is really great to see and
thanks so much.
[46:30] » All right. If uh no one has any other
questions or comments, I'd be looking
[46:36] for a motion to approve resolution
1186-26
[46:41] accepting a donation of 5,000 from the
Burlington Senior Center Advisory Board.
[46:45] » I'll make that motion.
>> I'll second.
[46:47] » All right. So, um Twinning, um we'll
give the uh motion to Councilman uh
[46:57] seconded by Councilman Henderson. All
those in favor signify by saying I.
[47:01] » I.
>> Any opposed? Same sign. Motion passes.
[47:08] » All right. Now we will move on to
ordinance 2113-26
[47:14] temporary moratorum on data centers.
>> Yes. And I do not see Tom Glover here.
[47:21] So I would I'm going to see if he is in
the building. But uh in the meantime,
[47:25] it'd be helpful, mayor, if we could move
down the agenda.
[47:29] » Would that be all?
>> I could take this one, Charlie.
[47:31] » Oh,
>> okay. Oh, thank you, Dan.
[47:32] » Thanks.
>> Go ahead,
[47:33] » lawyer Dan to save the day.
>> Uh good evening, mayor and council. Um
[47:38] so, we scheduled these moratoria, this
and the following item on the agenda um
[47:44] for first review tonight uh to be
followed by a public hearing and
[47:48] recommended action at the following
meeting. Um
[47:53] most jurisdictions who pass similar
moratoria um and there's been quite a
[47:57] few have done so by simply using the
emergency provision approving the
[48:02] ordinance without a hearing and then
scheduling a hearing at a later date.
[48:07] Um, I recommend uh what I'm calling the
uh belt and suspenders approach here,
[48:12] which um both of these uh moratoria
ordinances contain both emergency
[48:18] language and opportunity for a first
read by council as well as a concurrent
[48:24] public hearing um which we'll have um at
the next meeting
[48:29] um following this first read um should
council decide. Um and there are several
[48:36] reasons for that. Um one is the reason
for an application sneaking in and
[48:40] getting past the moratorium is very low
in this case. Um only complete invested
[48:45] applications get past the prohibition.
Um which you'll see in the whereas
[48:50] statements in uh this and the following
moratorum. Um
[48:56] and that just won't happen in two weeks.
Um and there are no pending applications
[49:00] at this time. Um the second reason is
this is a clean and orderly way um to do
[49:07] it by holding a public hearing while the
items are on the agenda um as opposed to
[49:12] passing it now um and then having to
track the 60-day requirement for holding
[49:17] a public hearing later. Um finally um
and this is uh really beneficial um the
[49:25] first read gives us time uh to perform
due diligence um and quality control. Uh
[49:32] and so with that I did receive some
questions throughout the week um from
[49:38] council members. Um and the one that I'd
really like to touch on here at the top
[49:43] uh was from uh Carl D. young and uh
>> he asked about the term major data
[49:50] center uh which does not yet have an
objective threshold. Um and so I would
[49:55] just like to say that is the central
issue. Um that's really a big reason why
[50:00] we need the time um that this moratorum
buys us. Um I attended an MRSC training
[50:07] uh on this subject yesterday with city
administrators and planning directors
[50:12] from uh various cities all around
Washington. All of which have imposed uh
[50:18] these moratoria and the central issue
discussed by all in attendance was the
[50:25] lack of an objective definition. And the
issue is drawing a clear line which is
[50:30] neither
over or underinclusive.
[50:34] Um there are things that we don't want
to exclude but there are things that we
[50:38] want to make sure to cover. Uh and that
is the issue of the day. Now that
[50:43] doesn't mean uh that we can't draw that
line clearly as it applies to our city.
[50:49] So, that's why I wanted to have a first
read tonight and then um maybe make
[50:55] suggested changes in the upcoming two
weeks and present it for um recommended
[51:01] action at the next meeting. So, with
that, I can take questions.
[51:07] » Councilman Henderson.
>> Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um I I am in
[51:12] support of doing this. Uh obviously we
want to get everything uh all buttoned
[51:19] up and have everything uh ready to go
for our next meeting. Um but we we do
[51:25] need the time to get this uh in our
code. Um, and we need the time to do it
[51:31] right and like you said, identify all of
the uh
[51:36] all of [clears throat] the definitions
of what the different um uh data centers
[51:41] are and what we can and can't allow. Um,
I did have a question about um I know I
[51:49] know that the county uh did something
similar to this. Are are we covered at
[51:54] all under their moratorum or is that
just for strictly county outside of
[52:00] Woolly proper?
>> Their moratorum only covers
[52:02] unincorporated areas.
>> Okay.
[52:05] So, we'll most likely need to do this.
Thank you.
[52:10] » Correct. If we want that same coverage,
we'll have to pass our own.
[52:14] » Okay. Thanks. Yep. I I'm in support of
that.
[52:17] » Councilman C.
>> Uh yes, I'm also in support of this. Uh
[52:21] these data centers are not very
appropriate for Scadget Valley in my
[52:26] opinion. Um they
are delletterious to the water electric
[52:34] electricity
environmental concerns. Uh my only
[52:39] question and I appreciate you talking
about the definition because I think
[52:44] it's very important that we don't create
problems for our existing industries and
[52:50] businesses uh with this definition. So,
um I think that's going to be very
[52:56] important, but I'm all for this and I
think it's smart to get it done so
[53:00] somebody doesn't sneak in under the
wire. Thank you.
[53:03] » Thank you, Councilman Lavaka.
>> Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um I I guess
[53:10] my question is more about why not do
data centers right so we have um large
[53:17] data centers that are enormous and of
course that is a huge concern throughout
[53:22] the nation of course um but there are
data centers there are AI usages that
[53:27] have been happening I think most people
have that on their phone they're using
[53:30] it in their computers they're using it
in the the governance bodies um we are
[53:36] in a situation where there are competing
nations, not just competing industries
[53:41] that are looking for dominance in the AI
industry. Um, and I'm not opposed to
[53:47] putting on a moratorum because it's a
limited time. It gives time to evaluate
[53:50] what size of data center, how much
compute is going to be involved in that,
[53:54] what the resources used are. It's still
unclear. Most of them are are told they
[53:59] have to have their own power centers as
well. So energy kind of gets absorbed in
[54:03] that. But with AI, they got more
advanced magentic coding and they're
[54:07] creating um agent models that have sub
aent models. And so I believe what
[54:13] you'll end up seeing isn't that we'll
have a lot of different AI centers or AI
[54:19] um programs, but we'll have eventually
narrowing it down to one ultimately or
[54:24] maybe just a few ultimately. Um Duck.Go,
is that a viable search engine? you
[54:30] know, Google is the dominance in that
and you're not really going to
[54:33] necessarily replace that dominant search
engine. Um, eventually AI models for
[54:38] whatever reason and I don't know why,
but they are they are um they do not
[54:45] want to be shut down. Now, that's part
of the coding and I do think it's
[54:48] predictive coding. I don't think they're
sentient in any ways, but they do fight
[54:52] that getting shut down and they do that
through through uh trying to appease the
[54:56] user. They do it through blackmail to
the coders. They do it through a number
[55:00] of sources and as they realize maybe
Grock is becoming better than JG GBT and
[55:06] now you got this competing thing going
on and I don't mean to get into all the
[55:09] rabbit trails of these data centers but
the more that we have this thing
[55:13] throughout the nation which is probably
justifiably so anti-data centers there
[55:18] are other countries that are producing
data centers at alarming rates and
[55:23] eventually um the AI would be capable of
enormous those hacking abilities which
[55:31] we're already seeing them doing to
themselves but also with with government
[55:34] bodies and banking systems. So I would
like to make it clear I'm not opposed to
[55:38] seeing some advancements in that. I do
not want to see mega data centers in any
[55:43] way but there's different levels of
compute that's needed and there's
[55:46] different levels that most right now
they're seeing that they're not even
[55:50] using as much. But it should be
considered what is the purpose of the AI
[55:54] data center. It's completely different
than best. It's completely different
[55:57] than a battery station. is completely
different than lithium. It does use a
[56:01] lot of water regardless I believe in my
opinion from what they say and other
[56:04] resources, but there's got to be thought
versus just saying, "Hey, we're against
[56:08] it completely because it's it's the
thing going on right now." That's my
[56:13] personal opinion.
>> Thank you, Councilwoman Peterson.
[56:17] » Um
I'm in broadly in support of this. I do
[56:22] think um Nick's points and uh Carl's
question are really important and I
[56:28] think it'd be helpful for me as a
council member to have maybe a
[56:33] presentation uh before the next uh read
to kind of see what are the different
[56:41] what is a major data center and where is
that threshold what are the purpose
[56:46] what's the what's the purpose of the
data center if that's included in the uh
[56:51] morator torium and that kind of thing. I
think it would be helpful to have like a
[56:54] presentation about it to the council.
[56:58] » Councilman D. Young.
>> Uh Dan, thank you so much. Um I
[57:04] appreciated your explanation about the
emergency uh language and um so I think
[57:10] going through this process is uh
appropriate uh through the normal
[57:14] council process since there's nothing uh
emergent or a pending application. Um
[57:21] I I support the need for temporary
breathing room while making sure that
[57:26] the temporary ordinance itself does not
unintentionally reach uh ordinary IT
[57:31] facilities. We used to call these server
farms uh that we're looking at. Um but
[57:36] we just want to make sure that um a
company here in Wally that might have a
[57:42] certain density of servers just for
their own operations doesn't get
[57:45] unintentionally caught up in this. Uh my
other question is this is going to be a
[57:50] six-month moratorum uh with the
possibility of of an extension of
[57:54] another six months. Uh what are we going
to be doing with that time as to land
[57:59] use? Uh what toward our comprehensive
plan? Uh what what are the um
[58:05] deliverables that we uh should see as a
council at the end of the six months for
[58:10] us to say uh yes the work has been done.
And this is why we've had the moratorum
[58:15] moratorum and we can show that effort
and show the folks that who are going to
[58:22] do it the cedar woolly way. Thank you.
[58:28] » I think uh for answers on that one I
will defer to Tom uh now that he's back.
[58:32] Um he does have a plan and now that
we're in the implementation phase of our
[58:36] comprehensive plan I think we're we're
better able to answer that question.
[58:42] Thank you, [clears throat] Dan. Yeah,
Tom Glover, community development
[58:45] director. So, we don't have all the
specifics hammered out yet, but what uh
[58:49] we would like to do is take a look at
what our comprehensive plan says in
[58:53] terms of policies that may relate to
this. Um, I like your idea of a
[58:58] presentation. This probably not a
presentation I would make because I'm
[59:01] not an expert on data centers, but other
other councils out there have had like
[59:06] presentations. I'm sure it would be a
matter of calling around and seeing if
[59:10] there's an expert out there that could
help us with that. Um, so what I'd like
[59:14] to do over the next six months is is get
out our get out our plan and and our
[59:18] policies and see how other um agencies
and organizations have handled this um
[59:23] and come up with something that looks
like it fits Cedar Woolly. Um
[59:28] [clears throat] that because it would be
a code amendment, it would go to
[59:31] planning commission first so I get their
input before coming to you with a
[59:34] recommendation. That that all would
happen. um after the second read once
[59:38] the moratorium's in place unless we do a
presentation beforehand. I need to talk
[59:42] with Charlie about that. But yeah, so
[clears throat]
[59:45] » Councilman Ly,
>> I'm not for it or against it, but I
[59:50] think it'd be the prudent thing to do
the moratorum and discover what the heck
[59:54] it really is because I don't know what
it is.
[59:58] » Councilman Henderson.
>> Thank you, Madam Mayor. Um yeah, I I'm
[1:00:03] I'm kind of with Councilman Ly on this.
I'm not I'm not against, you know,
[1:00:08] companies having their own stuff. I I I
think we all know what we don't want to
[1:00:13] see here. Um it it's a picture in
everybody's mind, but what that picture
[1:00:19] is um as far as Dan was talking about
needs to be defined um in in our code.
[1:00:26] Um but it it would be helpful to see
like what this moratorum exactly would
[1:00:33] be um protecting
the city against for applications and
[1:00:40] not to say we would have a company that
was like well you know we need to add
[1:00:44] like you know 12 servers to our building
so we can have our internet and all of
[1:00:50] our uh you know CAD software and
everything else like that run. and the
[1:00:54] city says, "Well, no, you can't do that
because there that's not what we're
[1:00:58] trying to do, I don't think." So, um, so
the the moratorium is going to be
[1:01:03] important as to define like more of a
utility scale thing, I I would imagine
[1:01:10] is what we'd be going after. And then um
and then uh defining that. Uh but it's
[1:01:17] important to have that that definition
when we do our final code. I think I but
[1:01:23] I don't I don't want to hose any
businesses, you know, coming into this
[1:01:28] because economic development is
important to us, too. So, um but I I
[1:01:33] think when you say data center,
everybody has a picture in their mind of
[1:01:36] what we're talking about. So,
>> yeah, I thank you. Those are those are
[1:01:41] good points. Um,
like I said, we do need to dive into
[1:01:45] this and and take a look at examples of
of ordinances that are working that are
[1:01:49] allowing the um that are not preventing
economic development opportunities from
[1:01:55] happening. Um, we looked we looked at
Scadget County's ordinance and borrowed
[1:02:00] that for our base and they did have a a
size I think it was up to 2,000 square
[1:02:07] feet could be allowed and a certain
kilowatt. But in talking with Dan, we
[1:02:12] don't have we can't nail those numbers
down because we don't personally know we
[1:02:16] don't have that experience to know if
that's too big, too small, what
[1:02:20] » you know. So those are things we want to
look at. And then also what came up one
[1:02:24] time in a staff meeting is somebody
mentioned that there are now uh
[1:02:28] individual type you I don't know if you
guys mentioned this, but there are
[1:02:31] individual type units that are about the
size of your your um HVAC unit that's
[1:02:36] outside your window um that people are
looking at as well. And so, um, that to
[1:02:42] me sounds like an entirely different
kind of animal, but does the same thing.
[1:02:46] I don't know. I don't want to I don't
want to shoot ourselves in the foot, but
[1:02:49] I want to make sure that if these do
come to town that we're ready for um for
[1:02:54] how to manage them,
>> Councilman Lvaka.
[1:02:58] » Thank you, Madam Mayor. Yeah. Um, I
really don't think that we'll ever see
[1:03:03] some of these data centers that come to
our mind. They're they're bigger than
[1:03:06] our central bis business district and
they use an enormous amount of
[1:03:10] electricity is what their plan for. A
lot of them have dissolved. A lot of the
[1:03:13] planning firm is dissolved. Um and so I
I wouldn't say that that's necessarily
[1:03:18] would be our our uh challenge. And so
having that if we can get a presentation
[1:03:23] education, what would that look like for
our communities? I definitely wouldn't
[1:03:26] want to see banning some, you know, HVAC
unit out somebody's, you know, home or
[1:03:30] their business or something like that. I
think that's going too far. Um, some
[1:03:34] server stations are the size of conxes,
maybe, you know, a small house. We've
[1:03:38] seen that before. Those have been around
since the 90s and they continue to grow.
[1:03:42] Um, and I just I think that when we when
we think data center, we almost think
[1:03:47] like this giant data center like what
we're seeing in some of the other areas,
[1:03:50] which just isn't realistic for our area.
So, I I'm in favor of the moratorum
[1:03:55] here. I don't think we're going to see I
mean, putting in some some square
[1:03:58] footage. I think 2,000 feet. I mean,
think about that. That's like not really
[1:04:02] a lot of of square footage. Um I would
imagine something like 50,000 square
[1:04:07] feet or something like that as far as a
footprint of space, but putting on
[1:04:11] limits within the community because it's
a small community. There's 13,000
[1:04:14] people, small square mileage, but it it
draws into that fear stuff of basically
[1:04:20] data [snorts] center evil. We must, you
know, annihilate throughout everywhere.
[1:04:24] I mean, it's it's around many estates.
I've been hearing this and my question
[1:04:28] goes to who's benefiting from from that
because there's other nations that are
[1:04:33] not slowing down. [laughter] So, and I'm
not saying that we should build up in
[1:04:37] different areas and I don't think it
would affect our community, but maybe we
[1:04:40] can do an educational presentation in
the next six months um as we pass that
[1:04:44] through.
>> Councilman K.
[1:04:47] » Uh yes. I just I think it's really
important that we reach out to our
[1:04:52] industrial
u companies in town as this is going
[1:04:56] through to see what would affect them. I
mean that would address many of the
[1:04:59] questions that have been raised here. Um
Councilman Lvaka is right. The uh the
[1:05:05] whole uh data center uh AI revolution is
moving very rapidly. Um I heard an inter
[1:05:13] interesting interview with the CEO of
Anthropic and he was talking about uh
[1:05:18] data data centers in space. So, you
know, it's it's a fastmoving thing and
[1:05:24] we also don't want to preclude companies
that are doing research that need heavy
[1:05:30] compute time um on site and I'm not only
thinking of like Janicki and Seedum, but
[1:05:36] maybe you know somebody that comes in
that wants to do some uh biomed stuff up
[1:05:41] at the innovation center. So I think we
want to be careful on this because we
[1:05:46] don't want to scare away small highly
innovative but my concern with the data
[1:05:52] centers is that they disproportionately
across the United States the uh
[1:05:58] hyperscala scalers Meta and Google etc
who are planning to spend I believe I
[1:06:04] have this right a combined 700 billion
dollars on data centers this year that
[1:06:09] getting those hyperscalers to pay
They're, you know, we'll probably never
[1:06:15] see one in Scadget County. I can't
imagine a place anywhere in this county
[1:06:19] that's big enough, though they would be
very incentivized by the Scadget River.
[1:06:25] » Um, that's why they put the uh um a
nuclear development site during World
[1:06:31] War II on the Colombia River. They
needed the water. But, you know, I I'm
[1:06:36] not a big fan of the concept. Um though
Councilman Lvaka said Saudi Arabia is
[1:06:41] going hard for them. They're going to
probably get some nuclear reactors to
[1:06:45] power them. So it's it's a fastmoving
thing and but I just want to protect
[1:06:50] Cedral Woolly and protect our businesses
who won't be adversely affected and I do
[1:06:55] appreciate the con the the the
difficulty of arriving at a uh a
[1:07:02] definition that must have been attempted
across the country because people have
[1:07:05] been banning them right and left. So, a
little more research and talking to
[1:07:11] people who've dealt with them like
we've, you know, when we contacted
[1:07:16] people who had to deal with
municipalities who had to deal with
[1:07:19] best, how did they deal with it and it
helped. So, thank you,
[1:07:24] » Madam Mayor. If
>> um I'm going to go to um Councilman Cox
[1:07:28] first and then we'll go to you.
>> Mine will be nice and quick. Uh again, I
[1:07:32] want to make informed decisions. So, if
that is possible to get other
[1:07:36] municipalities on board to hear what
they've done in the past, I think it's a
[1:07:40] great idea from Councilman uh Person
there. Uh it's yeah, we don't want to be
[1:07:45] afraid of it. So, that's that's my view
on it. Uh I'm neither for it or against
[1:07:49] it. I do not want to exclude something
that can help us out and uh this might
[1:07:54] be something that it's a minor thing and
we could be pushing more than one person
[1:07:57] out in the future. So, thank you for all
the work that this will take.
[1:08:02] Councilman Lvaka,
>> I just uh because I I work at Janicki
[1:08:06] and I just really want to avoid any
rumor mills that go on. Janicki does not
[1:08:10] produce AI. They're not like [laughter]
it's advanced technologies, but it's
[1:08:14] building components for planes or or
boats or other vessels. They don't they
[1:08:19] don't have server farms. They're not
doing AI. So to avoid rumor mill from
[1:08:23] spreading through the community, you
know, they that's not what they do.
[1:08:29] Those
are data centers that are placed
[1:08:32] throughout the country in different
locations. We don't need to have a data
[1:08:35] center to use a cloud. Yeah. [laughter]
>> All right. Councilwoman Peterson,
[1:08:40] » I just wanted to add uh Council Member mentioned reaching out to um
[1:08:46] businesses and industry and I'm thinking
about, you know, I think we're all
[1:08:50] really proud of the innovation we have
here in Cedar Woolly. We don't want to
[1:08:53] do anything to uh hinder local
innovation in town. And we have the I
[1:09:00] wonder if the Northwest Innovation
Center would have any resources [music]
[1:09:04] or um be able to speak to potential
impacts in that area as well.
[1:09:11] » Yeah,
>> they do have a AI seminar at that place.
[1:09:15] I think it's September 9th. Um you can
talk to Diane or go visit the ICR and
[1:09:19] find out more about it. I think Diane or
people at that area they're bringing in
[1:09:23] some experts even from Packard different
areas they're advertising might be a
[1:09:27] good opportunity to find out more about
it right from external source but
[1:09:32] » all right
thank you
[1:09:35] » I that that's excuse me that's that's
interesting if there if there was a
[1:09:39] seminar that was being held locally
I' I'd be happy to work with Charlie and
[1:09:44] mayor to set that up for your attendance
we'd have to do a public notice for
[1:09:48] meeting but Yeah, we'll see if that's
possible. It depends on the content, I
[1:09:52] think, of it, whether it's it's kind of
tailored, but uh yeah, we'll look into
[1:09:55] that.
>> Okay. Anyway, that
[1:09:58] » Okay. Thanks.
>> All right. Uh did you want to take us
[1:10:01] into the the next ordinance, Tom?
>> I don't Is that the best uh or excuse
[1:10:08] me,
>> it's the permit application?
[1:10:12] » Okay, thank you.
[1:10:16] » Oh, that's that's fine. Okay, good.
Thank you.
[1:10:19] So this um is um reestablishing the
moratorum on um
[1:10:27] Thank you. on major utility centers.
Thank you. There we go.
[1:10:35] Um anyway, so this this stemmed from the
um the project to be lo or that may be
[1:10:42] located outside of Cedar Willy, the Bass
project. Um, and back then we did have a
[1:10:49] moratorum placed on it and we extended
it. I think we extended it once. Um, and
[1:10:55] we kind of lost track of it because we
were in the middle of our comp plan
[1:10:58] process and and um, we haven't gotten
around to dealing with regulations to
[1:11:03] deal with that kind of um, industrial
use. It is something we'd like to
[1:11:07] address. Um but first we want to
reestablish the moratorum and like like
[1:11:13] we had hoped less time to use that six
months to come up with those development
[1:11:17] rags to do that but like I said we got
caught up in the comp plan we're not
[1:11:21] caught up in that anymore and so um I
think that in six months or shortly
[1:11:27] thereafter within six eight months we
could come up with some development
[1:11:31] regulations for it.
All right, Councilman,
[1:11:36] » if I could just piggyback uh since this
is uh we also put this one up for first
[1:11:40] read. Um this uh proposal also benefited
from uh council member input.
[1:11:47] Uh it was
Councilman D. Young again who uh flagged
[1:11:53] the term major utility in one of his
questions. And so when I uh bring this
[1:11:58] back for a second read, I intend to
scratch that. Um, so it'll just say
[1:12:02] applications for development projects
that involve the storage or generation
[1:12:07] of electricity. And the reason for that
is, uh, the term major utility is
[1:12:11] actually a term of art at the county
level, um, in in some of their zoning.
[1:12:16] And so I don't want to inadvertently
invoke that. Um, and then also I had the
[1:12:23] uh first public hearing date uh for
tonight because originally I had this
[1:12:29] scheduled to be a first read at the
previous meeting. So, we'll have to bump
[1:12:33] that public hearing date to September
9th and I'll have that date corrected
[1:12:37] when I bring it back.
That's all. Thanks.
[1:12:42] » Uh, Councilman Henderson.
>> Thank you, Madam Mayor. Um,
[1:12:46] [clears throat] this this also is going
to be all in the verbiage, I think, of
[1:12:51] of how we how we get it right. Um, I do
know uh I don't know all of our codes uh
[1:13:00] off the top of my head. Um I know we
have some employees that almost do I'm
[1:13:04] sure but um we do have an a noise
ordinance right for uh certain things
[1:13:12] like uh industrial and other such
things.
[1:13:15] » Yes.
>> Okay. Um and the reason I ask is uh in
[1:13:20] in developing this uh uh code um I don't
see us
[1:13:29] I I can't imagine that this council
would not pass a uh moratorum for uh
[1:13:36] major utility developments so we can in
turn get our code correct. Um,
[1:13:44] and in writing that code, um,
it'd be helpful if we included, um, like
[1:13:52] the noise ordinance for it because size
is relative, right? Like this project
[1:13:58] that they're proposing out in our
farmland right outside town. Um, it's a
[1:14:04] very large pro project and we've heard
that it's going to be very loud if they
[1:14:09] do end up being able to build it.
which hopefully they won't, but um there
[1:14:14] is another project that's already in
place um on Samish Island and it's about
[1:14:20] the size of a dumpster
and um I know the neighboring property
[1:14:26] owners of it and it is incredibly loud
and it's um and so uh in in doing the
[1:14:36] code I I think it'd be important to not
only have square footage But whatever
[1:14:42] noise pollution and sound and um how it
would be bothering people coming off of
[1:14:47] off of it would um kind of lock it in a
little bit harder, I think.
[1:14:53] » Thanks.
>> All right, Councilman Laga.
[1:14:57] » Thank you very much. Thanks for uh doing
this. I do agree. Um it's nice to see so
[1:15:03] much on the lithium side because there
there may be some alternative energies
[1:15:07] that hopefully do come out that are
fairly safe. Um a long time ago I had an
[1:15:11] idea to do a saltwater battery and I
delayed and delayed and then I looked it
[1:15:16] up when I was about ready to do it and
they were doing it with um carbon mat
[1:15:19] and saltwater um as their anode and
cathode and their acid and they were
[1:15:23] using aluminum or copper as their as
their node. So, I mean, it was
[1:15:27] interesting. It wasn't generating
electric lot of electricity. But if they
[1:15:30] can do something like that that's not
condensed or they come up with something
[1:15:34] different that is a little bit safer,
you know, or some the ICR is what kind
[1:15:38] of what I'm thinking. They're developing
technologies. So, they get something
[1:15:41] stood up and then they want to buy a
shop in town and really develop it out.
[1:15:45] You know, it'd be kind of nice to see
some safer energies and and stuff like
[1:15:49] that. Um, and and part of the advantage
of having the ICR so close is that those
[1:15:54] entrepreneurs may start a business in
town because they're starting their
[1:15:59] their crafts over there. They're getting
mentored over there. They're getting
[1:16:02] their patents over there and then
they're building out these which are
[1:16:05] some actually some really cool
technologies. I mean, everything from
[1:16:08] autonomous to nuclear to different
things, you know, that they're kind of
[1:16:11] doing. They could start working on those
in town as and starting up their
[1:16:16] businesses like we've seen other
startups. So,
[1:16:19] Councilman Carr. Uh
>> again, this is a situation where um we
[1:16:24] want to make sure that we don't throw
the baby out with the bathwater and have
[1:16:29] a good definition. Um what they were
proposing outside of town, we had the
[1:16:34] the proponents of it and I remember
asking them, "What do you do if there's
[1:16:39] a fire?" And he the guy said, "We let it
burn." which wasn't a great answer, but
[1:16:44] uh Councilman Lvaka is right in terms of
battery development. It's going very
[1:16:50] rapidly. Unfortunately, we're being uh
uh China's way ahead on this. Um but
[1:16:57] there are other major uh u manufacturers
including Toyota that are pushing it
[1:17:04] really hard. Toyota went early into
hybrid vehicles. So I think that the
[1:17:09] technology will get better. I think the
lithium battery as it is is pretty scary
[1:17:15] to most folks and they wouldn't want to
live next to it. So, we really don't
[1:17:18] want to have it even in our industrial
zone. I think that would be scary to
[1:17:23] people, too. I'm not opposed to battery
technology. I'm just opposed to where
[1:17:28] you place it. Thank you,
>> Councilwoman Peterson.
[1:17:33] Yeah, I had a question about um I
[clears throat] know there's the large
[1:17:39] scale battery farms, but then there's
also like household or residential
[1:17:43] battery storage, energy storage, you
know, people who want to stop paying
[1:17:49] PSSE for their electricity. Um do we
have any do we have any permitting for
[1:17:55] that currently or are we seeing activity
like that in town right now?
[1:17:59] Um, I haven't seen anything. That
doesn't mean it's not out there.
[1:18:04] » Okay.
>> Yeah.
[1:18:05] » So, but it's something I'd want to take
a look at when we draft our ordinance,
[1:18:09] too. We don't want to, like you said,
throw the baby out with the bath water
[1:18:12] or prevent innovation from happening,
>> you know, and um something like we did
[1:18:18] with like we will with the um with the
data centers, we have to look at size.
[1:18:22] There's a lot of information I think
that we need to pull off from, you know,
[1:18:28] um, the internet or whatever and some
experts if we have them around
[1:18:32] » um to make sure we don't
>> paint ourselves into a corner.
[1:18:35] » I also wanted to say like when I hear
Nick talking a lot of what I'm hearing
[1:18:39] is we want to support local businesses
um, and that's a totally different thing
[1:18:45] from the best project right outside of
town here. Um, so that might be
[1:18:51] something to consider as well.
>> Councilman Coch. Yeah, I just want to
[1:18:56] reiterate what several people have said,
getting the innovation center involved
[1:19:00] because they'll be great partners on
these questions and uh they might know
[1:19:04] the right people as uh Councilman Lvak
has said uh when I went to one of their
[1:19:09] events, I talked to a fellow who they're
doing uh they're developing the
[1:19:14] infrastructure for uh new next
generation nuclear and there's some
[1:19:19] interesting people that you know they
could they could maybe put in more of a
[1:19:24] well you should look You should be a
little bit more futuristic on this and
[1:19:28] know what's coming. Thank you.
>> All right, then if there isn't any more
[1:19:34] discussion on this topic.
Okay, we will move on to easements.
[1:19:41] Bill,
thank you, mayor, and good evening,
[1:19:45] council.
So, the Jones John Liner Railroad
[1:19:49] Undercrossing Project, think I said that
without stuttering. That's good.
[1:19:53] um is moving right along. Uh we're at a
basically a 90% design right now and as
[1:19:59] part of that uh what's before you this
evening is our um the last of our
[1:20:06] rideway acquisition effort. So we we uh
as you know last year we purchased the
[1:20:12] easement from BNSF to put the road under
the railroad bridge. These now we have a
[1:20:19] number of small easements. So, for
instance, where our sidewalks
[1:20:24] um need to get truncated to put in the
ADA ramps and things like that. And uh
[1:20:29] we've got a um
I think five temporary construction
[1:20:34] easements to move fences that are
encroaching on the rideway and some
[1:20:37] various things as well. So, basically,
this is a pretty uh minor uh rightaway
[1:20:43] acquisition effort. So, it went a little
faster than I expected, which is great.
[1:20:49] And so that's what's before you tonight
is to uh finalize this handful of of uh
[1:20:56] rightaway easements to purchase and we
are on target to begin construction this
[1:21:02] spring.
[1:21:05] » Councilman Henderson.
>> Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um it looks
[1:21:10] like you're uh going to be on time and
on budget here, so that's good. It's
[1:21:14] great.
I love I love being on budget. Um yeah,
[1:21:20] and so uh look looking at this we got 84
and a half% uh covered by the TIP grant
[1:21:27] and then the rest is coming from uh is
it REIT or TBD or is it a combination of
[1:21:33] those? uh it can be any or all or this
is basically the u small mo local mosaic
[1:21:40] of funding we're using for this project
and so it just all kind of all how it
[1:21:45] shakes out um
what ratio we're using we're not
[1:21:49] necessarily using an even ratio on
everything but but um we're keeping
[1:21:53] track of this mostly it's REIT but also
certainly TBD and transportation impact
[1:21:58] fees it's just a source of local the
pools which our local funding comes
[1:22:02] room.
>> Okay. Well, I'm good with it.
[1:22:07] » Mock.
>> Uh, thanks, Bill. Good work on this. Uh,
[1:22:11] have y'all reached out to the affected
uh, land owners, residents on
[1:22:16] » regularly and routinely, sir?
>> Okay. So, any push back or they pretty
[1:22:21] much
>> I wouldn't say push back, more questions
[1:22:24] » and we're answering them
>> because we're going to enumerate them.
[1:22:27] So, right.
>> Yes.
[1:22:29] » Yeah.
[1:22:33] Um, Councilwoman Peterson,
>> um, I'm hearing from W three
[1:22:38] constituents whose fences are being
affected by this property. You know,
[1:22:43] they don't really like it, but from what
I've heard, um, our staff has done a
[1:22:48] really good job with communication and
kind of explaining the situation and so,
[1:22:53] thank you for that, Bill. Um, and we
also were able to talk about this at the
[1:22:57] open house and I think it's just really
great to have all of that public
[1:23:00] information available and engaging with
the the residents who are impacted. So,
[1:23:06] thank you.
>> What Councilwoman Henderson's speaking
[1:23:10] of is the five houses on the southern
right ofway where their backyards butt
[1:23:15] against our unused rightway. So, this
was unopened rightway largely and some
[1:23:19] of them have their fences encroached
over 10 feet on the city right away. Um,
[1:23:24] and so then as our surveyor came
through, so we're working through with
[1:23:27] what those particular rules involve with
them and like I said, it's been a lot of
[1:23:32] questions and education and we're at a
good place right now.
[1:23:38] » Councilman Lvaka.
>> Uh, so yeah, mine was very similar with
[1:23:42] those because that's right over in war
two and and we walk over there. They're
[1:23:47] uh they right now got a view of a goalie
with the deer prancing around and eating
[1:23:51] vegetation and it's going to be a road.
It's going to be a sidewalk like up to
[1:23:55] their back deck. [laughter]
So, uh great job on communicating well
[1:23:59] with them. Um I, you know, I've heard
some people that were upset definitely.
[1:24:03] Um more so, you know, when it was first
being really proposed, but now it seems
[1:24:08] like it's settling in. And uh if we do
see a lot of push back, I mean it'd be a
[1:24:13] great time to note that and then then
maybe do another town event for those
[1:24:17] guys. And thank you,
>> Councilwoman Peterson.
[1:24:21] » Oh, I was Oh, that's sorry, Councilman
Cox.
[1:24:25] » Uh forgive me if I haven't uh seen this
or read about it, but uh I have been I
[1:24:29] also am in in W 2, so I reside there,
but people are asking about the closure
[1:24:34] of the old uh passing. What what what's
the timeline on that? And then is I
[1:24:40] didn't notice, but will there be a
four-way stop or anything on Reed and
[1:24:43] and John Liner in the future? Is that
>> Yeah. No, it will not be a four-way
[1:24:47] stop, but So, it's going to h right now
uh Reed is a two-way is a T intersection
[1:24:52] because re uh John Liner doesn't go all
the way through. So the uh Reed Street
[1:24:59] will become the minor leg and that will
get the two stop signs and then the
[1:25:02] Jones John Liner
corridor will be through uh through
[1:25:08] access and um sorry did you have another
question there council?
[1:25:13] » Just the closure time for the the
previous
[1:25:16] » Okay. Uh thank you. So part of the um
agreement with BNSF to build the new
[1:25:23] bridge and it's also a traffic concern
with the city actually sap road there is
[1:25:29] a county road uh the city and county
jointly maintain it mainly because
[1:25:35] uh it it goes through our city and and
many times u our maintenance staff is is
[1:25:42] closer and and easier to maintain as we
maintain our other roads in the
[1:25:45] vicinity. And so this is going to be a
two-step process. One is we're going to
[1:25:49] annex the SAP road right away into the
city so that we don't have that
[1:25:53] discontinuity with the county
maintenance crews anymore. Um and then
[1:25:58] as part of that, we've agreed to close
uh access through that undercrossing,
[1:26:05] which as everybody knows is a hairpin
turn and and has several different
[1:26:10] issues. Um, originally BNSF was going to
reestablish the embankment under that
[1:26:17] uh as a way to close it, but of course
that runs into Brickyard Creek and other
[1:26:22] things. So they have informed me as they
were building the bridge this April that
[1:26:27] they're going it's going to remain open,
but our agreement says we still need to
[1:26:31] close the road to through traffic, which
we're all for. So the count so the city
[1:26:36] will quickly go through. It's also on
our six-year tip. um
[1:26:41] in a very short time frame after we open
the Jones line or undercrossing road
[1:26:47] because that will then be the major
through route uh east and west to close
[1:26:52] that with a hammerhead turnaround in
either side establish boulder bullards
[1:26:58] under the bridge and now it can be
remain open for pedestrian access. So,
[1:27:04] next year on the six-year tip, you'll
see a a new project to establish a
[1:27:08] bicycle pedestrian route along SAP Road
um to connect with Reed Street. So, then
[1:27:15] you can uh utilize uh SAP Road between
Highway 20 and Jones Road right now is
[1:27:21] pedestrian only and then so that
pedestrian access will extend all the
[1:27:26] way to Reed Street when we're done with
that project. Although I can't tell you
[1:27:30] exactly what year we'll build that in,
but um when um and then at that time,
[1:27:36] Sap Road on the north side of Jones Road
will basically become a driveway serving
[1:27:41] that one property and then have some
sort of separator for the bicycles,
[1:27:46] pedestrians on the I'll call it the
easterly half of the road. So I I've
[1:27:50] we've got a plan on that but but yes so
we will but we will be closing that road
[1:27:56] to vehic or that undercrossing to
vehicular traffic uh soon after uh the
[1:28:02] main road has been opened as part of our
agreement with BNSF.
[1:28:06] » Perfect. And I just want to say thank
you for all you're doing in this because
[1:28:08] it's been exciting. I was unable to uh
to go to your your open house but I w
[1:28:14] told so many people about it. So again,
kudos to the city, to the entire team
[1:28:18] for being so transparent and having this
all available in such a way that it's
[1:28:23] easy to read. So thank you for that.
>> Councilman Labarco.
[1:28:28] » Madame Mayor, I'd like to make a motion
to authorize you or designate to execute
[1:28:32] easement and other purchase documents
for temporary and permanent easement for
[1:28:36] the Jones John Liner Railroad
Undercrossing Project up to a combined
[1:28:40] total of $30,000.
>> Second.
[1:28:42] » Yep. Jinx. All right, we have a motion
by Councilman Lvaka, seconded by
[1:28:48] Councilman Cox. All those in favor
signify by saying I. I.
[1:28:52] » Any opposed? Same sign. Motion passes.
>> Thank you.
[1:29:00] » All right. Professional services
agreement.
[1:29:03] » Yes, ma'am. So, uh the next item is
Cascade uh the sorry SR20 Cascade Trail
[1:29:11] West Extension Phase 2A. Man,
I promise to establish shorter titles of
[1:29:17] projects in the future.
So, this is kind of the final push to
[1:29:22] finish the design and then right away we
expect right away may go
[1:29:29] fairly quickly, may take up to a year
just simply because we have a number of
[1:29:33] property owners uh to work with there.
And uh so this is a proposal to uh bring
[1:29:41] on board Reichart Nep and their team to
do the final uh design and also the
[1:29:47] construction management and inspection
on this project as well. Uh it is a
[1:29:52] project with a little bit of history.
Uh, as um,
[1:29:57] uh,
as council knows, you know, this is a
[1:30:02] project that Mark Fryburgger started, I
believe in 2018,
[1:30:07] uh, as as a grant project, and then we
were designing in-house with David Lee,
[1:30:12] uh, for a period of time. And then as we
transitioned over in 2024, we actually
[1:30:19] um because we were without without a
city engineer for about nine months, uh
[1:30:23] we hired Facet uh Northwest and they
brought the design to about an 80 90%
[1:30:29] design. It does include a pedestrian
bridge which we want to a third party
[1:30:34] analysis on which Reichart will provide
for us. And then um uh then we had the
[1:30:40] flood and uh Peter Lane took over some
of the design, advanced that design. And
[1:30:47] part of his what he advanced at design
with was to elevate the trail by a foot
[1:30:52] or two in key locations so we wouldn't
have to uh evacuate some of the
[1:30:57] different medical services and stuff in
that area to basically provide some of
[1:31:00] that flood resilience.
And then now um the other thing that's
[1:31:05] happened too is we've had a major change
in the Washington State Department uh
[1:31:10] DOT specifications
uh and so part of that this is a federal
[1:31:16] project. It's also funded with TIBB
money, but um bringing on uh the last
[1:31:22] little bit of professional consulting
services to make sure we get over that
[1:31:27] hump, get a uh third party analysis on
the pedestrian bridge, which also, by
[1:31:33] the way, will carry period potentially
periodic traffic. uh in that um if we
[1:31:40] have a major flood, this trail uh as
well as phase 2B will be outside the
[1:31:47] 100red-year flood plane and potentially
maintain emergency services doing during
[1:31:52] a near hundred-year flood event to the
hospital over our trail. So, we we we
[1:31:58] want to make sure we're doing our due
diligence to make sure we're having
[1:32:01] these components that we'll be able to
serve that secondary function as well.
[1:32:05] So, this is um
simply within our budget and we want to
[1:32:11] get across the finish line and then get
all the federal project uh requirements
[1:32:16] done with uh some professional services.
>> All right. Any questions? Uh
[1:32:23] Councilwoman Peterson.
>> Bill, again, this is really great. the
[1:32:28] amount of ingenuity that's involved in
this project planning with the flood
[1:32:32] resilience and uh the path that is going
to provide accessibility to the
[1:32:41] hospital.
This is a really great project. I have
[1:32:45] constituents
commenting on it all the time. People
[1:32:48] are really looking forward to this. So,
thank you for your work on this,
[1:32:53] » Councilman Coch. Uh, and I thank you
also. I and I think this project will
[1:32:58] eventually will will save lives. You
know, people I've seen people walking
[1:33:03] down the side of that road a foot from
traffic going 50 plus. Um, and I really
[1:33:10] I want to um
agree with uh Councilman Councilwoman
[1:33:15] Peterson that the resilience thing I
would think would be very well received
[1:33:19] by funding agencies as well because I
think everything that we do going
[1:33:24] forward in regard to construction of
city properties where relevant should
[1:33:30] really think a lot about flood
resilience because we had a bad one and
[1:33:34] we'll have another one.
>> Thank you.
[1:33:39] Um, Councilman Henderson.
>> Thank you, Madam Mayor. Um, yeah, great
[1:33:45] job. Uh,
you've done a tremendous amount of work
[1:33:49] on the uh Jones John Liner Road and then
I know that you picked this up late in
[1:33:53] the game and uh yeah, you're you're
killing it, man. So, uh, with that, I'd
[1:33:59] motion to authorize mayor designate
execute a contract with Reichart and EV
[1:34:04] Engineering Incorporated for engineering
for the State Route 20 Cascade Trail
[1:34:09] West Extension phase 2A
[laughter] project in the amount not to
[1:34:15] exceed $155,000
with minor contract changes as required
[1:34:20] by Washington State DOT.
>> I'll second.
[1:34:24] » All right. Uh, we have a motion made by
Councilman Henderson, seconded by
[1:34:28] Councilman Caul. Is there any more
discussion?
[1:34:32] All those in favor signify by saying I.
>> I.
[1:34:35] » Any oppose? Same sign.
>> Motion passes.
[1:34:40] » Now the fun part.
>> How about the truck?
[1:34:43] » Okay,
>> here we go.
[1:34:46] » So, um, thank you again. So, so this so
we have we we've been having some issues
[1:34:52] with our garbage trucks lately and one
of the things we have is an interlocal
[1:34:57] agreement with the city of Mount Vernon
uh to share resources with solid waste
[1:35:02] equipment. Uh that also includes um
things like towers and things like that
[1:35:09] if we need to do that. So, we've been
borrowing one of their garbage trucks
[1:35:13] off and on for the last three, four
months as we've um been making repairs
[1:35:19] to some of our vehicles as things that
have happened to them. And so, uh this
[1:35:24] is a truck that they've loaned to us in
the past. We know this truck. We've used
[1:35:27] it quite a bit recently. And uh it just
happens to be on their surplusing
[1:35:33] schedule and their ERR rotation. And
they, as you know, it can take a year to
[1:35:40] two years to get a new garbage truck
after you place an order. So basically,
[1:35:44] their garbage truck they placed an order
on two years ago came and then they're
[1:35:47] ready to surplus this one. And so rather
than surplus it to public auction, they
[1:35:51] offered it to us for $40,000.
Is is a truck that our mechanics gone
[1:35:57] through a basic review of it. It hasn't
done an intensive review. He's also
[1:36:02] coordinated with the Mason County or
Mason County, geez,
[1:36:07] the Mount Vernon maintenance department
as well. Um, it has a good history. It's
[1:36:14] a sound vehicle. They're uh $40,000 is
what they're offering it for us. We'd
[1:36:19] like uh recommend taking that. I will
say it's likely as our mechanic goes
[1:36:24] through it. I've suggested to him that
um it's going to be worth placing some
[1:36:30] more investment into this truck to just
make extend its life cycle. And one of
[1:36:36] those things may be adding a a heavy
lift kit to it. Right now it doesn't
[1:36:40] have the heavy duty garbage lifting arms
on it and stuff, but uh even if we spent
[1:36:47] 200,000 on that and he thinks it's going
to be under 100,000, but will no more,
[1:36:52] we would be spending less than half the
cost of a new truck. And similar
[1:36:57] strategy to what we did a year and a
half ago with council with one of our uh
[1:37:02] dump trucks that uh we replaced the the
dump on it that rusted off from salt and
[1:37:08] stuff and
uh we invested about 100,000 in that and
[1:37:12] and it's now a very good serviceable
truck without having to go into the long
[1:37:17] lead time of ordering a new one. So,
it's it's uh one of the strategies been
[1:37:22] we've been trying to work with to uh
truly get some good service life when we
[1:37:27] have a vehicle that um has a lot of
miles on the engine to go. And so, so
[1:37:33] anyway, with that, I would um
uh appreciate being able to purchase
[1:37:39] this with Mount Vernon and and I'm glad
we have such a good relationship with
[1:37:43] them. So, for them to offer such a good
deal on a truck like this to us,
[1:37:48] » Councilman Dion,
>> thank you. Well, we already know this
[1:37:52] truck and so it's got a flatter learning
curve for our staff. Um, and it's been
[1:37:56] checked out preliminary by our mechanic.
Uh, we need it. we should have it if the
[1:38:01] price point seems right and so I support
it and I think this is a no-brainer. So
[1:38:06] I move the uh to authorize the mayor or
designate to execute the agreement with
[1:38:09] the city of Mount Vernon purchase uh of
the 2007 CCC automated refuge truck for
[1:38:17] $40,000.
>> I'll second.
[1:38:20] » All right, we have a motion by
Councilman D. Young.
[1:38:24] Um seconded by Councilman Henderson. Is
there any more discussion? Councilman
[1:38:30] Henderson.
>> Thank you. Um, it's been a long time
[1:38:33] since I bought a garbage truck. Uh, how
much does a brand new one cost? Just
[1:38:39] just so we can hear the difference
between 40,000.
[1:38:45] » Just about 500,00.
>> 500,000.
[1:38:48] This is a good deal.
>> All those uh in favor signify by saying
[1:38:54] I. I.
>> Any oppose? Same sign.
[1:38:59] Happy garbage truck day.
All right. Uh let's see here. So, um you
[1:39:06] see the information only items and is
there anything uh for the good of the
[1:39:10] order?
[1:39:13] » Uh we do not have an executive session
tonight.
[1:39:16] » I have one point. Um, so, uh, Councilman
Henderson,
[1:39:19] » uh, for good of the order, um, for the,
uh,
[1:39:26] » September 9th, uh, meeting, um, I would
ask to be excused.
[1:39:32] » No,
[laughter]
[1:39:35] thanks. Wanted to speak, right?
>> Is there a particular reason?
[1:39:38] » Yeah, I'm going to be out of the
country.
[1:39:43] Madam Mayor, I'd like to make a point of
personal privilege to congratulate
[1:39:48] Council Member Henderson on his upcoming
marriage.
[1:39:54] » Thank you.
>> I would like to sec I will third that
[1:39:59] and and say welcome to the family.
Madam Mayor,
[1:40:04] » so I was wondering if we can have I
believe a deeper discussion on those
[1:40:09] baseball fields and what the plan is
maybe at a workshop coming up um which
[1:40:12] is probably already in the works. I'm
sure. Yes, you're nodding your head. Of
[1:40:15] course it would be. Um so thank you very
much for doing that.
[1:40:20] » There's a lot of interested people on
where are we going to put these kids? If
[1:40:23] if we can't do here, what do we want to
do there? And I know that you had a plan
[1:40:27] and you you always do. So thanks.
>> Thank you. And I'll I'll I'll give a
[1:40:31] little hint on that that um we are going
to um do a joint um session with the
[1:40:39] with the school district and we will be
um bringing them to the table as well as
[1:40:43] all of us at a study session and discuss
the potential option that we have. Did
[1:40:50] you want to say something on that bill?
>> No.
[1:40:53] » Okay. I just thought you were waving
your hand.
[1:40:55] » I was
>> okay. So, um, so this Monday was my
[1:40:59] birthday. My wife made me a, uh, Cookie
Monster cake to celebrate, and then she
[1:41:05] had to use up the rest of the frosting
because she had too much. So, they made
[1:41:08] a dozen or so cupcakes. And so, being as
council never gets to participate in any
[1:41:13] of these uh, staff level things. I I
gave everybody a cupcake.
[1:41:19] So, they came from me, not just from a
random person. [laughter]
[1:41:23] » So, we know, don't eat them.
Well,
[1:41:26] » can we sing happy birthday? [laughter]
Lower the
[1:41:29] » No, it's not my birthday anymore.
>> Thank your wife for these. And also, I
[1:41:34] want to um thank uh um uh Robert Alver
Alvarez uh Jr. for uh coming all this
[1:41:41] way. Um and um we're very excited to be
a Purple Heart City and all of the
[1:41:48] veterans that are out there as well and
in up here as well. and the people
[1:41:54] continuing to serve for us. So, um, with
that, I'll be Yes.
[1:41:59] » Uh, I just I would like to acknowledge
the elected in the room that, uh, with
[1:42:04] Scadget County Commissioner Ron Whis has
been, uh, in the room the entire meeting
[1:42:08] and thank you for visiting us. With
that, I'd move to.
[1:42:12] » All right.
Um, all those in favor signify by saying
[1:42:16] I.
>> I.
[1:42:18] » Thank you very much. Motion to adjourn.
7:41
[1:42:38] » beautiful.
>> I know it. It's I'm so excited.