1 00:00:34,060 --> 00:01:00,880 Good evening. I'd like to call this meeting to order. This is the August 25th, 2026 meeting of the Shoesbury Select Board. We will start with introducing board members and staff members present. I am Teresa Flynn. Carlos Garcia. Michelle Conlon. Greg Richards. Han in the central. Kevin Mizekar, town manager. Keith Baldinger, assistant town manager, public works. Christian Ordon, assistant town manager, administration and finance. 2 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:00,980 Yes. 3 00:01:01,620 --> 00:01:02,140 Tracy V. 4 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:03,780 Do you see the system to the town manager? 5 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:05,180 Select board. 6 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:06,280 Thank you. 7 00:01:07,180 --> 00:01:11,460 The first item on our agenda is to approve the bills, payrolls and warrants. 8 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:11,820 Move approval. 9 00:01:12,180 --> 00:01:12,480 Second. 10 00:01:12,860 --> 00:01:13,680 All in favor say aye. 11 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:14,060 Aye. 12 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:15,140 Opposed? 13 00:01:15,780 --> 00:01:16,380 Motion carries. 14 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:22,000 Item number two is to review and act to approve the minutes of the August 11th, 2026 select 15 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:22,460 board meeting. 16 00:01:23,060 --> 00:01:23,620 Move approval. 17 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:24,240 Second. 18 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:25,660 All in favor say aye. 19 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:26,180 Aye. 20 00:01:26,740 --> 00:01:27,060 Opposed? 21 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:28,600 Motion carries. 22 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,280 item number three is announcements and reports, board members, any announcements? 23 00:01:33,140 --> 00:01:38,240 Reports this evening? I think we just want to mention that we all just came 24 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:44,840 from the ribbon cutting at the new Arrowwood playground and it was amazing. 25 00:01:45,320 --> 00:01:49,240 Hopefully there will be some pictures that are posted. I see some residents who 26 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:54,240 were also there. It was amazing that once the ribbon was cut the gate was open and 27 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:58,520 there was just a flood of children that went out there and started enjoying it. 28 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:06,140 So many thanks to the residents and the CBC and just everybody that was involved town staff, 29 00:02:06,900 --> 00:02:15,380 Parks and Racken, not highway division, other town departments. So thank you to everyone 30 00:02:15,380 --> 00:02:20,900 and it was lovely to see. Item number four is the town manager's report. 31 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,100 Ms. Mizzacar. I don't have anything this evening. Thank you. 32 00:02:23,100 --> 00:02:29,280 I have a number five is public comment pursuant to select board policy 31. 33 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,860 We actually have four requests for this evening. 34 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,660 So we'd like to start with Ms. Hilton. 35 00:02:37,460 --> 00:02:39,080 You're listed first on the agenda. 36 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:40,120 So I will go in order. 37 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,140 You wouldn't mind us getting your name and your address for the record. 38 00:02:43,500 --> 00:02:43,800 Certainly. 39 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,720 Bridget Hilton and I'm at one Jacobson Drive here in Shrewsbury. 40 00:02:48,380 --> 00:02:53,440 Thank you all so much for the opportunity to comment on this proposal. 41 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:58,140 So, I think every single person who knows me and she's 42 00:02:58,140 --> 00:03:01,200 afraid knows that I am a first-generation immigrant to this country, 43 00:03:01,900 --> 00:03:05,740 and that my grandparents came, my parents came, and there I am. 44 00:03:07,660 --> 00:03:13,080 When I think about this proposal, I think about in particular my grandmothers, 45 00:03:13,580 --> 00:03:15,000 both of my grandmothers were immigrants. 46 00:03:17,020 --> 00:03:21,460 Both were farmers before they came to the country. 47 00:03:21,460 --> 00:03:27,560 My mother's mother was a bit of an entrepreneur, she graced chickens, and she owned a little chicken 48 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,340 business and sold eggs and things like that. 49 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:35,480 So coming to the States at the time that they did in the 1980s, the landscape was significantly 50 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:36,700 different than it is today. 51 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,460 The immigration system was significantly different than it was today. 52 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:42,160 They came primarily. 53 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:47,240 Actually my mom came first, believe it or not, and her parents came afterwards to take care 54 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:47,460 of me. 55 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:56,780 And so neither my grandparents worked in this country, but they contributed something 56 00:03:56,780 --> 00:04:03,800 priceless to not just my generation, but through the work that they did for myself, 57 00:04:04,020 --> 00:04:09,060 or my friends, or my siblings, for their church, for their community organizations. 58 00:04:09,060 --> 00:04:15,080 They were vibrant members of this community to the point that I called the church on the 59 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:21,640 comment to ask them to do me a favor and they go, are you any granddaughter? So they were vibrant 60 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:27,600 members of our community, but they were also aware that they were coming from a place where 61 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:33,160 they sounded different than everyone else. They look different than everyone else. And I don't 62 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:39,360 know that despite all of their amazing qualities that they would have been able to articulate to 63 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:44,760 somebody what their immigration status even was, it was something that my parents helped them 64 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:50,400 to navigate and I think about in particular my grandmother who is busy chasing after 65 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:56,160 five kids and one of five and helping my family and cooking and cleaning being called to 66 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:01,420 task about whether or not a piece of paper said that she was allowed to live in this country 67 00:05:01,420 --> 00:05:06,280 or not in spite of all the things that she was doing and that's why I think it is so important. 68 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:11,960 I think about that because there are other women and men like my grandparents living in our community, 69 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:17,900 living amongst us who are valuable, invaluable members of our community who would be negatively 70 00:05:17,900 --> 00:05:22,900 impacted by such inquisition and I use that word intentionally. 71 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:31,100 I know that it is, you know, maybe could be seen as a litmus test of kind of where our town 72 00:05:31,100 --> 00:05:38,140 is but it's not that and I wanted to put a face and a family to the lives that are impacted 73 00:05:38,140 --> 00:05:44,740 when you impose yourself into the lives of other people unnecessarily. 74 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,120 I'm all for government. I'm all for building playgrounds 75 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,060 and doing the things that we can do to help one another 76 00:05:50,060 --> 00:05:53,200 so that life is easier for the people living in our community. 77 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,800 But what I'm not for is putting in people into undue fear 78 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,240 over something that has become increasingly difficult 79 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,200 and increasingly challenging, particularly for people that look like me. 80 00:06:05,060 --> 00:06:08,560 so thank you all for the opportunity to speak on this matter I hope that you 81 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,920 will adopt it. Thank you. 82 00:06:13,840 --> 00:06:16,000 Next is Ms. Zair. 83 00:06:18,910 --> 00:06:21,610 Whichever you prefer. Okay. 84 00:06:24,150 --> 00:06:24,890 My name is 85 00:06:24,890 --> 00:06:30,050 Sana Zair and I'm here to voice my support for the DEIB recommended welcoming 86 00:06:30,050 --> 00:06:33,970 community's policy and statement. Sana, I'm sorry to interrupt you could you just 87 00:06:34,550 --> 00:06:36,290 My address is eight, Jimmy Lane. 88 00:06:36,550 --> 00:06:36,810 Thank you. 89 00:06:37,390 --> 00:06:40,170 So again, I'm here to voice my support for the DEIB 90 00:06:40,170 --> 00:06:42,850 recommended welcoming community's policy and statement. 91 00:06:43,330 --> 00:06:46,330 As someone who frequently works with undocumented people 92 00:06:46,330 --> 00:06:49,470 in the area, I have seen firsthand how fear shapes 93 00:06:49,470 --> 00:06:52,090 even the most basic decisions of daily life. 94 00:06:52,750 --> 00:06:55,850 I know parents who delayed taking a sick child to the doctor. 95 00:06:56,310 --> 00:06:58,470 I know survivors of crime and abuse 96 00:06:58,470 --> 00:07:00,110 who chose not to call the police. 97 00:07:00,610 --> 00:07:02,650 I know people who kept their children 98 00:07:02,650 --> 00:07:08,450 out of school activities, avoided public services, and quietly withdrew from community life. 99 00:07:08,970 --> 00:07:13,470 Not because they didn't need help, but because they were afraid that asking for it might 100 00:07:13,470 --> 00:07:17,030 expose them or someone they love to detention or deportation. 101 00:07:17,730 --> 00:07:23,310 This policy will not undo that fear, and it will not fix the underlying immigration system 102 00:07:23,310 --> 00:07:28,470 that produces it, but it can send a clear and meaningful signal that this community does 103 00:07:28,470 --> 00:07:33,370 not see immigration status as a condition for basic dignity, safety, or belonging. 104 00:07:34,050 --> 00:07:38,850 For a population that is constantly weighing the costs of visibility, that signal matters. 105 00:07:39,690 --> 00:07:44,590 For people who live with persistent fear that shapes nearly every interaction with institutions, 106 00:07:45,150 --> 00:07:51,230 even a small credible assurance of safety can open a door that fear had kept closed. 107 00:07:51,970 --> 00:07:55,110 That policy offers, this policy offers that assurance. 108 00:07:55,110 --> 00:08:00,990 It tells undocumented residents that their access to healthcare, education, and public safety 109 00:08:00,990 --> 00:08:05,510 will not be used against them, and it tells the broader community that we are willing 110 00:08:05,510 --> 00:08:07,130 to stand behind that commitment. 111 00:08:07,730 --> 00:08:13,570 I encourage you to adopt this policy not as a complete solution but as a humane step towards 112 00:08:13,570 --> 00:08:17,410 a community where everyone can access the services they need without fear. 113 00:08:18,610 --> 00:08:24,170 To those of you who may oppose this policy, I would ask a simple question, have you ever 114 00:08:24,170 --> 00:08:26,850 are actually sat across from an undocumented person 115 00:08:26,850 --> 00:08:28,070 and heard their story. 116 00:08:28,730 --> 00:08:30,750 Or is your certainty built entirely 117 00:08:30,750 --> 00:08:33,650 on what a headline or a comment section told you to feel? 118 00:08:34,350 --> 00:08:36,790 I think it is easy to vote against the statistic. 119 00:08:37,210 --> 00:08:39,850 It is much harder to vote against someone whose name you know. 120 00:08:40,450 --> 00:08:41,470 Thank you for your consideration. 121 00:08:42,610 --> 00:08:43,030 Thank you. 122 00:08:46,230 --> 00:08:47,590 Next, Mr. Roberto? 123 00:08:49,530 --> 00:08:52,430 Just state your full name and address for the record, please. 124 00:08:56,070 --> 00:09:00,850 My name is Luis Rodriguez, 465 Boston Turnpike. 125 00:09:02,930 --> 00:09:04,130 My name is Luis Rodriguez. 126 00:09:04,590 --> 00:09:08,450 I'm a town meeting member, the current vice chairperson and a concern, sorry, the current 127 00:09:08,450 --> 00:09:12,530 vice chairperson of the Diversity, Equity, Inclusion and Belonging Committee and a concerned 128 00:09:12,530 --> 00:09:13,050 resident. 129 00:09:13,530 --> 00:09:16,890 I'm here to ask the select board to accept the welcoming committee's policy recommendation. 130 00:09:17,590 --> 00:09:21,210 The committee has put almost two years of hard work into this. 131 00:09:21,210 --> 00:09:26,230 With a lot of roadblocks along the way. This is an opportunity to build and strengthen our town 132 00:09:26,230 --> 00:09:29,210 I don't want and I don't want our immigrant neighbors 133 00:09:29,930 --> 00:09:33,830 To be a now to be an object or an after thought of civic renewal 134 00:09:33,830 --> 00:09:35,290 If we ignore 135 00:09:36,010 --> 00:09:41,510 If we ignore this we are choosing stagnation over progress if we ignore this we're limiting our potential 136 00:09:41,510 --> 00:09:45,330 Right now as communities push back against harmful federal policies 137 00:09:45,330 --> 00:09:50,250 We're also have that we also have the chance to imagine something better and start building it 138 00:09:50,250 --> 00:09:54,850 That starts by valuing the people that are already here no matter where they came from. 139 00:09:55,390 --> 00:09:57,190 We cannot afford to be passive anymore. 140 00:09:58,010 --> 00:10:02,210 The five of you today have the opportunity to leave and by example and make sure that 141 00:10:02,210 --> 00:10:04,210 this community makes everyone feel welcome. 142 00:10:04,790 --> 00:10:07,610 If you won't know tonight, understand the harm that you are choosing. 143 00:10:08,210 --> 00:10:10,310 People in our town are already living it. 144 00:10:10,670 --> 00:10:15,710 Residents in the main election poll asked by poll workers if they were citizens instead of 145 00:10:15,710 --> 00:10:20,390 registered voters, neighbors who avoid calling the police even when they need it because 146 00:10:20,390 --> 00:10:25,130 they don't trust the response. Family who hesitate to call SELCO to get their Wi-Fi fix 147 00:10:25,130 --> 00:10:30,190 because they fear of exposure. Residents who won't go into town hall to ask clarification 148 00:10:30,730 --> 00:10:35,390 about an official letter because they worry about consequences, not to mention many that 149 00:10:35,390 --> 00:10:40,550 have stayed away from community events because they don't feel safe or welcome. These are 150 00:10:40,550 --> 00:10:44,810 just a few of the stories that we heard during this process. The committee took this on because 151 00:10:44,810 --> 00:10:50,050 we heard these stories over again and again and again. Fear, exclusion, and longing to belong. 152 00:10:51,210 --> 00:10:55,710 This recommendation is simply asking this body or the terminator's office to take action 153 00:10:55,710 --> 00:11:01,830 and enact a policy that would help us build trust that we need so everyone can thrive during this 154 00:11:01,830 --> 00:11:07,510 volatile times. Adopting a policy, it is a straightforward step, towards a stronger, 155 00:11:07,710 --> 00:11:13,530 fairer community. The five of you today on this board can lead by example and stop making people, 156 00:11:13,530 --> 00:11:17,190 and stop making people choose between safety and civic life. 157 00:11:17,690 --> 00:11:19,410 Do not let this opportunity slip by. 158 00:11:19,630 --> 00:11:24,470 I urge this body to adopt this policy and show that you are committed to real change, 159 00:11:24,850 --> 00:11:27,930 to diversity, to equity, to inclusion and to belonging. 160 00:11:28,510 --> 00:11:29,910 Thank you so much for having me today. 161 00:11:31,150 --> 00:11:31,810 Thank you. 162 00:11:35,430 --> 00:11:36,310 Ms. Jones, 163 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,300 could you state your full name and address for the record, please? 164 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,380 Diane Jones, 29, Francis Avenue. 165 00:11:46,460 --> 00:11:54,760 So I'm here tonight because, well, they've already said all the reasons why I'm here tonight. 166 00:11:55,540 --> 00:12:03,680 But I just want to say that there is definitely a population within Shrewsbury that does not feel safe here. 167 00:12:05,460 --> 00:12:11,440 And one of the last things they need is to be asked what their immigration status is. 168 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,700 because that is actually not our business, right? 169 00:12:16,420 --> 00:12:19,480 It's not our business, and it keeps them from, 170 00:12:20,140 --> 00:12:23,160 well, feeling safe enough to get help or to 171 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,660 participate in civic life here in town, which makes all of us less safe. 172 00:12:29,420 --> 00:12:33,040 Our town is much safer when we just accept people as they are, 173 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,100 as long as they're not breaking federal law, right? 174 00:12:36,100 --> 00:12:46,460 and and keep them in the community feeling safe. If they don't contact the police 175 00:12:46,460 --> 00:12:55,080 because maybe there was domestic abuse and they're afraid, oh my god, what 176 00:12:55,080 --> 00:13:00,680 happens if I called the police and asked for help? What happens if you don't 177 00:13:00,680 --> 00:13:02,220 to call the police and ask for help. 178 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,420 It's really serious. 179 00:13:04,820 --> 00:13:08,200 Or at a smaller level, any kind of ability 180 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:09,760 to walk into a building like this 181 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,520 and get something administrative taken care of 182 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,780 without being asked, what's your immigration status? 183 00:13:17,460 --> 00:13:19,760 Because that is not our business. 184 00:13:19,900 --> 00:13:21,320 And it's the same for the police. 185 00:13:22,660 --> 00:13:26,280 The police in Massachusetts are not supposed to ask anyone 186 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,240 what their immigration status is. 187 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:36,380 unless they've done something like break a federal law and that is really important because 188 00:13:36,380 --> 00:13:44,800 otherwise we have people who are incredible danger and they know they are so it's already 189 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:51,080 the same this this policy is already in place for police basically it should just be in place 190 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,760 for everybody. It's not a question that you ask. 191 00:13:55,860 --> 00:13:56,280 Thanks. 192 00:13:57,020 --> 00:13:57,640 Thank you so much. 193 00:13:59,380 --> 00:14:02,100 Appreciate the residents who came forward to speak this evening. 194 00:14:02,260 --> 00:14:05,620 We will be taking up this topic under agenda item number 10. 195 00:14:08,300 --> 00:14:13,260 Next item on our agenda is a 705 public hearing regarding a request to honor 196 00:14:13,260 --> 00:14:18,680 former town employee Dawn Shannon through the naming of a public space 197 00:14:18,680 --> 00:14:28,940 or building. Before we start, I thought it would be very important to clarify that the 198 00:14:28,940 --> 00:14:34,900 building will remain named in honor of World War I veterans, Sergeant First Class, Raymond 199 00:14:34,900 --> 00:14:43,900 Stone. This is not in any way a consideration of removing Mr. Stone's name from the building. 200 00:14:43,900 --> 00:14:48,580 the family of Don Shannon has requested that a portion of the building's 201 00:14:48,580 --> 00:14:59,840 interior be named in her honor. So that is what we are here to consider. So we 202 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:26,480 I would like, I really don't want to cut off anyone. We would like to keep this public hearing to about 15 minutes. So I will ask anyone who is interested in coming forward. If you could state your name in your address for the record. And we generally like to keep people to about three minutes just so we can get as many people included as possible. Hello sir. 203 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,720 Hi, I'm Rob Shannon, Don Shannon's son. 204 00:15:31,820 --> 00:15:35,380 Address, born and raised on seven-hour tours drive, 205 00:15:35,940 --> 00:15:38,460 and raised at 62 Homan Street. 206 00:15:39,940 --> 00:15:41,500 Worked for the town myself, 207 00:15:42,620 --> 00:15:46,600 and the cemeteraries for the parks, 208 00:15:47,140 --> 00:15:49,600 the various opportunities that was presented. 209 00:15:50,940 --> 00:15:55,610 My mom, God bless her past February 13th, 210 00:15:56,510 --> 00:16:08,810 of this year. And while she was here in Shrewsbury, she gave 30 years of her life to developing 211 00:16:08,810 --> 00:16:13,790 the Parks and Recreation Department, more on the Recreation Department side. 212 00:16:16,290 --> 00:16:16,750 What few 213 00:16:16,750 --> 00:16:25,070 knew was that mom would do this job with such love for the town residents and for the children 214 00:16:25,070 --> 00:16:31,170 and for the families and a lot of times we as our family we we got the short 215 00:16:31,170 --> 00:16:36,170 end of the stick because of it. The town could not afford to have the 216 00:16:36,170 --> 00:16:41,930 janitors stay in the facilities to open and close buildings at night so they 217 00:16:41,930 --> 00:16:46,970 could have adult or men and women or whatever recreation department 218 00:16:46,970 --> 00:16:52,390 office activities take place. She would get up from dinner and go open up the 219 00:16:52,390 --> 00:16:56,370 buildings. After the event she'd get up again and go outside and close the 220 00:16:56,370 --> 00:17:03,350 buildings. Nothing I would really want my wife or a single mother to do day after 221 00:17:03,350 --> 00:17:09,050 day, year after year. In top of that she was a town meeting member for many, many 222 00:17:09,050 --> 00:17:16,430 years. I just say she was over 30 years I believe with a town. She was present of 223 00:17:16,430 --> 00:17:21,110 of the special needs program, a town meeting member, 224 00:17:21,810 --> 00:17:26,690 a wonderful mother, but mentored to so many. 225 00:17:27,870 --> 00:17:31,370 One of my friends from Alaska, Jim Keegan from Shrewdbury, 226 00:17:32,130 --> 00:17:35,910 said it best in a letter to me that your mom 227 00:17:35,910 --> 00:17:40,490 always gave kids a point and right direction, 228 00:17:41,650 --> 00:17:44,410 a smile, some positive feedback, 229 00:17:44,410 --> 00:17:49,630 back and sort of gave the kids that needed that little extra oomph to do the right thing. 230 00:17:51,190 --> 00:17:57,270 I am thrilled that so many of her friends, the ladies over that have become very close 231 00:17:57,270 --> 00:17:58,590 to, have come tonight as well. 232 00:17:59,690 --> 00:18:08,350 I'm glad you mentioned that Chairperson Flynn that was never my desire to strip the building 233 00:18:08,350 --> 00:18:13,510 of the recognition that Ray Stone earned and still has. 234 00:18:14,810 --> 00:18:17,790 There's a separate entrance to the facility 235 00:18:18,350 --> 00:18:22,210 that I was hoping that we will see the Don Chan parks 236 00:18:22,210 --> 00:18:25,050 and recreational parks facility or park office 237 00:18:25,050 --> 00:18:26,690 and have a sign on the outside. 238 00:18:27,310 --> 00:18:32,570 If that is too much to ask, I understand and appreciate 239 00:18:33,350 --> 00:18:37,270 but I do believe that for all she's done for this town 240 00:18:37,270 --> 00:18:44,610 in first residence that it'd be fitting to recognize her with some sort of dedication, 241 00:18:44,850 --> 00:18:48,930 whether it's a park, part of the building, or what have you. 242 00:18:49,690 --> 00:18:54,430 But I'm going to yield the rest and sit down, but I very emotional about this, so I apologize. 243 00:18:55,150 --> 00:18:59,130 And thank you very much for listening and entertain us. 244 00:18:59,510 --> 00:19:00,190 Have a great night. 245 00:19:01,050 --> 00:19:01,910 Thank you so much. 246 00:19:03,030 --> 00:19:04,530 And thank you to your entire family. 247 00:19:04,530 --> 00:19:09,570 your mom was clearly very special. Are there any other residents that would like to 248 00:19:09,570 --> 00:19:09,930 speak? 249 00:19:12,460 --> 00:19:12,980 If 250 00:19:16,590 --> 00:19:19,010 you could please just state your name and address for the record. 251 00:19:20,670 --> 00:19:27,910 Good evening. I'm Fred Russell, 104 Oldenwood Road and I'm also the commander of the post 397 252 00:19:27,910 --> 00:19:34,470 Director Crowder Post. We do not have any objection to naming part of the building after Mrs. 253 00:19:34,630 --> 00:19:38,690 Shannon. That's all I want to say on record. 254 00:19:38,690 --> 00:19:39,910 Thank you so much. 255 00:19:51,890 --> 00:19:55,350 Carol McWilliams, 28 Colton Lane, true sorry. 256 00:19:55,890 --> 00:19:57,370 I wasn't planning on saying anything, 257 00:19:57,510 --> 00:20:01,750 but there's been such an undercurrent of information 258 00:20:01,750 --> 00:20:02,970 about Don Shannon. 259 00:20:03,110 --> 00:20:04,790 I know you've received lots of letters. 260 00:20:05,830 --> 00:20:07,370 And even though I don't do Facebook, 261 00:20:07,710 --> 00:20:09,550 I understand there's been lots of it. 262 00:20:10,850 --> 00:20:12,550 Bob was speaking about his mother. 263 00:20:12,750 --> 00:20:14,330 I know it's been very emotional for him. 264 00:20:14,690 --> 00:20:16,570 But any one of us that knew Don Shannon 265 00:20:16,570 --> 00:20:20,650 and probably three generations of anyone here would know her. 266 00:20:21,290 --> 00:20:24,110 She was vivacious, she was giving, she was funny, 267 00:20:24,270 --> 00:20:25,430 she always had a smile. 268 00:20:27,090 --> 00:20:30,210 She gave so much of herself to the kids. 269 00:20:30,650 --> 00:20:33,030 Ineemed the adults, the trips that she used to run. 270 00:20:33,250 --> 00:20:36,630 I mean, she could have been Mrs. Shrewsbury. 271 00:20:37,250 --> 00:20:41,650 So I hate to see us kind of dismiss this and do nothing, 272 00:20:42,050 --> 00:20:45,070 but something definitely should be done because she was. 273 00:20:45,070 --> 00:20:52,430 the parks and wrecked department for almost 30 years okay so thank you. 274 00:20:56,220 --> 00:20:56,920 Anyone 275 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:57,300 else? 276 00:21:00,700 --> 00:21:03,640 Not? I would entertain a motion to close the public hearing. Second 277 00:21:04,340 --> 00:21:12,380 Holland favor say aye aye. Close motion passes. So this is part of our policy to 278 00:21:12,380 --> 00:21:18,960 hold the public hearing to receive feedback greatly appreciate the comments. We 279 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,160 We have received a lot of correspondence as well. 280 00:21:23,140 --> 00:21:31,000 So we will add to a future agenda the opportunity for the Select Board to deliberate over all 281 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:36,380 of the information we have and formulate our next steps. 282 00:21:36,940 --> 00:21:38,360 So we won't be doing that this evening. 283 00:21:39,150 --> 00:21:45,820 We have to do the public hearing and we greatly appreciate everyone who participated and came 284 00:21:45,820 --> 00:21:46,300 to attend. 285 00:21:46,300 --> 00:21:47,340 agenda 286 00:21:50,700 --> 00:21:55,220 item number seven is to review an act for the assignment of host community agreement 287 00:21:55,220 --> 00:22:06,220 for pharmacannis Massachusetts Inc. to Mealou or Myloo, M-A-L-L-C. Under the town's host 288 00:22:06,220 --> 00:22:10,580 community agreement and state law, the business cannot transfer its agreement to a new owner 289 00:22:10,580 --> 00:22:17,600 without written consent from the town. I see that we have some attendees so rather than 290 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:27,020 kind of going through my summary. We will ask you to introduce yourself and tell us a 291 00:22:27,020 --> 00:22:33,680 little bit more about this transaction. Absolutely. Madam Chair and members of the 292 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:39,300 Select Board, thank you very much. I'm Jesse Alderman. I am here on behalf of Mealoo 293 00:22:39,300 --> 00:22:49,780 Shrewsbury LLC which does business as very Mary and with me is the sole owner, the 294 00:22:49,780 --> 00:22:58,360 100% owner of Milu, Meredith Maghimi, and Adam Illman who is the current, one of the 295 00:22:58,360 --> 00:23:04,840 current managers at the store, has been for five years Adam, yep, and Avery Jones 296 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:10,400 who's the operations manager at the store and has also been there for a while. 297 00:23:12,030 --> 00:23:18,760 As you stated, Madam Chair, section 10 of your host community agreement, which is a requirement 298 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:24,860 of state law to have a cannabis license from the Cannabis Control Commission, states that 299 00:23:24,860 --> 00:23:33,880 that host community agreement cannot be transferred or assigned without your approval, which shall 300 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:39,140 not be unreasonably withheld or conditioned. So we're here tonight to explain to you a little 301 00:23:39,140 --> 00:23:45,120 bit about the background of the transaction that's in process and Mr. Mizukar could I ask you to go 302 00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:50,340 forward with the slides if you're able I'm sorry and thank you very much for hosting those for us. 303 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:58,920 The company that owns the Verrolife Dispensary at 939 Boston Turnpike is Pharmacannis Massachusetts 304 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:04,900 its Inc., which is a subsidiary of a company called Pharmacan, which is in essentially, and 305 00:24:04,900 --> 00:24:09,840 I'm not, and I, they've likely notified you in some measure of this, is in essentially 306 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,580 what is the equivalent of Bankruptcy. 307 00:24:12,180 --> 00:24:18,680 So they have, through a public process, proposed to auction off many of their assets, those 308 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,320 here in Massachusetts as well as in some other states. 309 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:35,780 rates. And the selected winner of that bid process is Milu Shrewsberry LLC. And Milu 310 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:43,020 is owned by Meredith who's sitting next to me and they are proposing to acquire all 311 00:24:43,020 --> 00:24:48,820 of the assets essentially of pharma-can Massachusetts. And that would include this host community 312 00:24:48,820 --> 00:24:54,040 agreement as well as the Cannabis Control Commission license and although there's 313 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,340 four of us up here and I've probably rambled on for too long already we promise to 314 00:24:57,340 --> 00:25:00,800 be brief but Meredith and the team will very briefly introduce themselves so 315 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:06,000 you can hear from them directly. If there's one point that I'd like to get 316 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:12,100 across on this slide and the next couple it is that there will be no changes as 317 00:25:12,100 --> 00:25:18,600 you as the other town boards and departments experience them and as customers 318 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,380 is experience them at the store. 319 00:25:21,220 --> 00:25:25,940 It will remain with the same management, 320 00:25:26,260 --> 00:25:29,420 with the same on-site staff, same physical layout, 321 00:25:29,740 --> 00:25:32,780 same number of parking spaces, same interior layout. 322 00:25:33,140 --> 00:25:35,940 If in the future there are branding changes, for instance, 323 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:40,260 to be called very merry instead of a pharmacan 324 00:25:40,260 --> 00:25:42,220 and look something like this rendering up there, 325 00:25:42,540 --> 00:25:44,560 that has to go through a state approval process 326 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,640 and would certainly go through any design review 327 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,560 or other process that you would require. 328 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,480 But for the near term and for the foreseeable future, 329 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,260 no one will know that there has been a change 330 00:25:54,260 --> 00:25:58,700 in the parent level ownership of this company 331 00:25:58,700 --> 00:25:59,860 to Ms. Maghimi. 332 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,720 With that, if we could just move forward in the slides a little bit, 333 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,020 I just wanted to turn it over to Adam and Avery 334 00:26:08,020 --> 00:26:11,620 to very, very quickly orient you on the site 335 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,880 in case there's any unfamiliarity. 336 00:26:15,740 --> 00:26:24,600 So as you can see on the entrance we have right off 939 Boston Turnpike Road, right near the Wegmans, I'm sure you're familiar. 337 00:26:25,380 --> 00:26:35,660 We have 20 spots plus ample parking, our security system is up to date with everything that the CCC requires for us to remain operational and function properly. 338 00:26:35,660 --> 00:26:36,600 And 339 00:26:43,190 --> 00:26:46,470 I know we're operational layout, if we want to move forward a little more so 340 00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:46,970 that we can slide. 341 00:26:47,570 --> 00:26:51,910 And then inside here you can see the layout of our store, the entrance, right down once 342 00:26:51,910 --> 00:26:58,170 you make your way into our parking lot, and then the vestibule, which is the first round 343 00:26:58,170 --> 00:27:04,370 of security before we have our multi-stack check, where we check everybody through the T's 344 00:27:04,370 --> 00:27:08,530 to make sure everybody is, of course, we're remaining up to all of the guidelines that the 345 00:27:08,530 --> 00:27:09,390 CCC requires. 346 00:27:09,930 --> 00:27:16,710 There's the operational history here of full compliance, no CCC violations, no to our 347 00:27:16,710 --> 00:27:21,110 awareness and to Adams Awareness, no incidents at the store with police or fire. 348 00:27:22,410 --> 00:27:27,150 And this is the host community agreement language that I've highlighted on the screen 349 00:27:27,150 --> 00:27:30,630 for you and I'll turn it over to Meredith and the next slide to introduce herself. 350 00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:35,230 Hello, I'm excited to be here with everyone tonight. 351 00:27:35,230 --> 00:27:36,410 I'm Meredith Moghimi. 352 00:27:37,090 --> 00:27:43,150 The very Mary experience we want to bring to Shrewsbury brings you 24 plus years of 353 00:27:43,150 --> 00:27:49,790 cannabis experience, 30 plus years of leadership and retail, customer-focused leadership, curated 354 00:27:49,790 --> 00:27:56,450 menu and products, and community partnership that we're excited to be here and be part 355 00:27:56,450 --> 00:27:57,250 of your community. 356 00:28:01,820 --> 00:28:08,240 I have beta consultant here in Massachusetts working in the private and public sector for 357 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:17,940 close to 15 years now. I'm excited to be working in cannabis and I am excited to 358 00:28:17,940 --> 00:28:28,680 bring a female forward cannabis product to Shrewsbury. Massachusetts is my 359 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:34,520 home and I love doing business here and I've worked in everything all parts of 360 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:39,180 the state and excited to be here in Shrewsbury with you all. 361 00:28:42,290 --> 00:28:43,610 This is the leadership team. 362 00:28:43,770 --> 00:28:45,130 I'm gonna let Avery introduce himself 363 00:28:45,130 --> 00:28:46,490 and then I will talk about Ali 364 00:28:46,490 --> 00:28:49,510 who unfortunately had a family obligation 365 00:28:49,510 --> 00:28:50,590 that you couldn't be here tonight. 366 00:28:51,530 --> 00:28:53,350 Hi, I am Avery Jones. 367 00:28:54,090 --> 00:28:57,130 I've been in Boston since about 2016 368 00:28:57,130 --> 00:29:00,290 going to Berkeley College of Music, 369 00:29:00,770 --> 00:29:02,630 pursuing a music business degree. 370 00:29:03,730 --> 00:29:32,370 That said, 2020, during the pandemic, I pivoted over to working at a local testing site in Boston area to get back to my community, and thankfully was able to actually go outside of it and work on some contracts as well with some of the local entertainment companies and some of the bigger entertainment companies, which has been fantastic, but after that all died down, I was able to focus back on retail and came into the canvas industry, which I absolutely love, and I love the community that it brings in. 371 00:29:34,870 --> 00:29:39,770 The remaining slides we have, I'll leave for the board to review if they'd like. 372 00:29:39,910 --> 00:29:42,830 They're just a summary of the security protocols at the store. 373 00:29:44,990 --> 00:29:48,750 And I would thank you for your time and your consideration of our request. 374 00:29:48,750 --> 00:29:51,790 We are also to go before the planning board. 375 00:29:52,510 --> 00:29:55,770 Next month, maybe next month, hopefully. 376 00:29:56,250 --> 00:29:59,810 We plan to submit an application in a matter of days to. 377 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:29,340 I'm going to transfer the special permit at the site, which was awarded in 2018, and unlike most special permits, this one has a condition that it doesn't run with the land, and it in fact runs with the operator. So we'll essentially have the same introduction and discussion with them. And like I said, the cannabis control commission is in the very final stages of its approval of this transaction, and there's no issues, and we expect to be on one of their forthcoming agendas, 378 00:30:29,340 --> 00:30:32,240 It is perhaps as early as next month to have this transaction approved. 379 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,580 Thank you very much for your time, if there's any questions. 380 00:30:36,820 --> 00:30:40,660 That was very thorough and very respectful. 381 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,620 Thank you for taking the time to give us all of that background. 382 00:30:43,820 --> 00:30:46,980 Board members, any questions for? 383 00:30:47,340 --> 00:30:53,060 So I have one question like you're transferring the business from one owner to the other one. 384 00:30:53,540 --> 00:30:59,020 So when you applied for the certificate or all kind of permits are going to do the same thing. 385 00:30:59,020 --> 00:31:01,440 again, the background checker? 386 00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:07,720 Ms. McKeeney has been background checked by the Cannabis Control Commission, she passed, 387 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,080 and that process is complete with the CCC. 388 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,920 They will recommend this transaction for approval. 389 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:22,040 The staff will recommend this acquisition, the transfer of the state asset, which is the 390 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:27,800 Cannabis Control Commission license, to the full board of the Cannabis Control Commission, 391 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,220 the full three-member board, which will vote on it at a public meeting. 392 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,400 And we certainly don't expect to encounter any difficulty there. 393 00:31:35,060 --> 00:31:40,340 In terms of Mr. Jones and Mr. Elman, they've already passed their background checks in 394 00:31:40,340 --> 00:31:44,220 our registered agents for the dispensary with the Cannabis Control Commission, 395 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,380 as is all the on-site staff. 396 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,600 And since Ms. Mokimi is the only owner and the sole manager of the company, 397 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,320 she's the only one that requires additional vetting by the Cannabis Control Commission. 398 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,580 Does that answer your question? 399 00:31:56,580 --> 00:31:57,420 Thank you. 400 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:57,760 Okay. 401 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:58,460 Thank you so much. 402 00:32:00,550 --> 00:32:02,430 There are no other comments or questions. 403 00:32:02,890 --> 00:32:03,770 I will answer any motion. 404 00:32:04,690 --> 00:32:12,050 I move the board to authorize the town manager to execute the host community agreement amendment 405 00:32:12,510 --> 00:32:17,830 and assignment as substantially drafted with pharmacannis Massachusetts Inc. with me, Lu Shusbury, 406 00:32:18,210 --> 00:32:18,490 LLC. 407 00:32:19,150 --> 00:32:19,470 Second. 408 00:32:19,850 --> 00:32:20,830 All in favor say aye. 409 00:32:21,190 --> 00:32:21,350 Aye. 410 00:32:21,970 --> 00:32:23,650 Opposed motion passes. 411 00:32:24,010 --> 00:32:24,810 Thank you so much. 412 00:32:25,070 --> 00:32:26,210 We wish you all the best. 413 00:32:26,450 --> 00:32:27,310 Welcome to Shusbury. 414 00:32:27,310 --> 00:32:28,830 We're excited to be here. 415 00:32:29,050 --> 00:32:29,350 Thank you. 416 00:32:29,870 --> 00:32:30,970 Thank you very much. 417 00:32:31,110 --> 00:32:31,470 Thank you. 418 00:32:31,510 --> 00:32:31,770 Thank you. 419 00:32:32,870 --> 00:32:34,570 agenda item number eight is to review 420 00:32:34,570 --> 00:32:36,630 and discuss the year-end financial results 421 00:32:36,630 --> 00:32:38,930 for fiscal year 2026. 422 00:32:40,030 --> 00:32:40,470 Alex 20. 423 00:32:40,770 --> 00:32:41,210 Okay. 424 00:32:41,970 --> 00:32:42,410 Alex, 425 00:32:46,740 --> 00:32:48,160 you need a second to get set up. 426 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,000 All right. 427 00:33:01,630 --> 00:33:02,530 Thank you board members. 428 00:33:02,730 --> 00:33:03,370 I'm Alex Martinez. 429 00:33:03,510 --> 00:33:04,650 I'm the director of fiscal planning. 430 00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:07,630 In this evening, I'll be walking through a handful of slides 431 00:33:07,630 --> 00:33:09,350 to provide a preliminary overview 432 00:33:09,350 --> 00:33:14,350 on the close-out of the fiscal year 26 budget that concluded on June 30th. 433 00:33:14,510 --> 00:33:18,010 You also have a memo in your drive that provides some further data and explanation. 434 00:33:19,490 --> 00:33:22,290 So some of the things that we'll touch on tonight are local receipt performance, 435 00:33:22,830 --> 00:33:28,010 general fund expenditure performance, and turnbacks, tax collection data, 436 00:33:28,510 --> 00:33:30,690 and a preliminary free cash balance estimate. 437 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:42,060 So starting off with revenue performance, specifically schedule A local receipts. 438 00:33:42,060 --> 00:33:52,460 Local receipts are locally generated revenues other than real and personal property taxes and local receipts is the third largest source of revenue for the town after taxation and state aid. 439 00:33:53,500 --> 00:34:05,100 Within local receipts, the largest components accounting for approximately 85% are motor vehicle excise tax, investment income, building permits, and landfill revenue from the ash monofil. 440 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:13,420 And the budget amount for local receipts for FY26 was $17,191,122. 441 00:34:14,340 --> 00:34:23,340 Actual local receipts came in at $19,875,826, exceeding the budget amount by approximately 442 00:34:23,340 --> 00:34:26,260 15% or just over $2.6 million. 443 00:34:27,570 --> 00:34:33,260 So I just want to pause on this slide just for a moment to see that between FY25 and FY26, 444 00:34:33,260 --> 00:34:39,300 We increased estimated revenue by just over 10 percent. 445 00:34:39,580 --> 00:34:44,780 This is the largest jump in budgeted year-rear local receipts that we've done in quite a few years. 446 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:52,740 Just feeling confident in the double-digit percentage performance that local receipts have had over the past few fiscal years. 447 00:34:52,740 --> 00:34:53,860 and 448 00:34:57,020 --> 00:35:01,440 then just touching on a few so within the memo you received some revenue 449 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:06,960 outperformers were highlighted as well as some revenue underperformers and I 450 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:12,940 want to touch on just one driver of accessible receipts that we've been 451 00:35:12,940 --> 00:35:17,500 seeing for the past few fiscal years. So since fiscal year 23, investment 452 00:35:17,500 --> 00:35:22,120 income has outpaced the budget of the amount by over $2 million each year. 453 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:25,880 The 454 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:42,780 This trend has obviously significantly benefited the financial performance of local receipts but is just an outlier to take into consideration that the next closest over performer is licenses and permits in that generated 420,000 additional revenue. 455 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:58,980 So although local receipts have shown a strong financial results we anticipate that the long term financial outlook should still maintain a more conservative stance. 456 00:35:58,980 --> 00:36:05,840 As you can see in this chart, we've trended up from FY22 to FY25, and have just maybe 457 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:11,060 peaked in 25 and are starting to trend back down to a more normal average baseline. 458 00:36:12,510 --> 00:36:18,160 So we want to balance generating excess revenue, but not putting ourselves in a position 459 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,760 where we're not accurately capturing recurring revenues. 460 00:36:26,230 --> 00:36:33,450 So now pivoting to expenditures, specifically general fund expenditures, the FY26 municipal 461 00:36:33,450 --> 00:36:40,190 pull in education budgets as of the fall 2025 special town meeting was 161 462 00:36:40,190 --> 00:36:45,970 million 873 thousand forty dollars. At the end of each fiscal year any funds 463 00:36:45,970 --> 00:36:49,930 they're not expended or encumbered within the operating budget have to be 464 00:36:49,930 --> 00:36:54,150 turned back get returned to the general fund. Town meeting control is 465 00:36:54,150 --> 00:36:58,810 expenditure appropriations on a fiscal year by fiscal year basis so those funds 466 00:36:58,810 --> 00:37:02,450 cannot be used for anything other than they're intended and appropriated use. 467 00:37:03,250 --> 00:37:07,930 So in addition to excess local receipt revenue that was discussed previously, turnbacks 468 00:37:07,930 --> 00:37:11,030 are a primary contributor to the town's free cash balance each year. 469 00:37:12,350 --> 00:37:16,950 Over the past five fiscal years, the average balance of funds that have been turned back 470 00:37:17,350 --> 00:37:23,610 is just over $1.7 million or approximately 1.2% of the annual operating budget. 471 00:37:23,610 --> 00:37:24,530 So, 472 00:37:29,950 --> 00:37:37,370 FY26 looked a little bit different, 0.51% of the FY26 budget was turned back, which 473 00:37:37,370 --> 00:37:39,570 results in just over $820,000. 474 00:37:40,210 --> 00:37:45,810 This is a pretty significant decline compared to the last two fiscal years, which had turned 475 00:37:45,810 --> 00:37:48,450 backs of over $2 million each year. 476 00:37:48,750 --> 00:37:54,290 So, although final department expenditures remained within the authorized budget, the turn back 477 00:37:54,290 --> 00:37:57,590 percent to highlight some of the challenges we did face in the FY26 budget. 478 00:38:01,890 --> 00:38:07,490 So just touching on those challenges quickly, we saw some budget pressures in utility costs 479 00:38:07,490 --> 00:38:12,630 specifically gas and electric to heat and cool, our schools and other municipal buildings. 480 00:38:13,310 --> 00:38:17,530 The challenging winter months also impacted snow and ice operation costs that are funded 481 00:38:17,530 --> 00:38:22,110 within the highway department, and we also experienced some pressures in recruitment and 482 00:38:22,110 --> 00:38:24,630 retention of staff that drove up some personnel costs. 483 00:38:26,210 --> 00:38:30,790 To address these challenges, we did seek approval from town meeting, the finance committee, 484 00:38:31,110 --> 00:38:35,070 and the personal board to ensure that department budgets stayed balanced and had appropriate 485 00:38:35,070 --> 00:38:36,610 funding to cover all costs. 486 00:38:38,110 --> 00:38:44,470 Throughout FY26, the finance committee considered and approved $360,000 in reserve fund transfer 487 00:38:44,470 --> 00:38:49,710 requests across seven departments, which completely utilized the entire balance of the reserve fund. 488 00:38:50,850 --> 00:39:06,050 The personnel board authorized just over $270,000 in transfers, which is about 65% of their available budget to cover performance appraisal adjustments, union contract implementations, and staff recruitment and retention efforts. 489 00:39:06,990 --> 00:39:13,050 So in total, between the fall 2025 special town meeting and the May 2026 annual town meeting. 490 00:39:13,470 --> 00:39:21,130 Town meeting also authorized a net of $972,000 in departmental transfers to cover necessary budget adjustments. 491 00:39:21,790 --> 00:39:26,430 Including $500,000 for additional funding for the pension system. 492 00:39:27,330 --> 00:39:32,050 $100,000 for staff recruitment, retention and training, and 493 00:39:32,050 --> 00:39:35,770 And then $300,000 specifically for those public building's utility costs. 494 00:39:37,030 --> 00:39:40,270 The total result of all those adjustments is about $1.5 million. 495 00:39:40,990 --> 00:39:45,330 And I just want to note that these funds were all encompassed within the appropriated 496 00:39:45,330 --> 00:39:47,750 FY26 budget using recurring revenues. 497 00:39:48,330 --> 00:39:53,510 So while there was no net increase to the operating budget, we still needed to rely on departments 498 00:39:53,510 --> 00:40:00,130 that had healthy surpluses to absorb and cover cost overruns with budget challenges in other departments. 499 00:40:00,130 --> 00:40:01,090 So, 500 00:40:05,420 --> 00:40:10,760 the town's largest source of revenue is taxation, and the chart on this slide highlights 501 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,820 tax collects and performance as of the end of the fiscal year during the 30th of 502 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:16,000 26th. 503 00:40:16,140 --> 00:40:21,840 I want to note that this data is a snapshot in time, and the year end balances for prior 504 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,920 fiscal years are essentially moving targets. 505 00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:29,940 Tax collections that are received after the fiscal year ends do get retroactively applied to 506 00:40:29,940 --> 00:40:31,540 the tax year for which they were levied. 507 00:40:31,540 --> 00:40:49,220 So FR-26 on the screen might look like an anomaly, but on average between FR-22 and FR-26 we typically have ended each fiscal year at approximately a 98.6% collection rate for real estate taxes and 96% for personal property. 508 00:40:55,320 --> 00:41:03,300 And then lastly free cash. So free cash represents the portion of General Fund surplus revenue that is unrestricted and available for appropriation. 509 00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:14,000 for cash is certified on July, as of July 1st each year by the State Department of Revenue and all of the figures discussed in this presentation directly impact the free cash balance. 510 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:25,180 Free cash is generated when the actual operating results compare favorably with the budget, such as when as actual revenues exceed the budget amount or when expenditures are less than appropriated. 511 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,840 Freakash can also be affected by increases or decreases in uncollected property taxes, 512 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:36,140 deficits in non-general fund accounts, and other legally incurred operating deficits 513 00:41:36,140 --> 00:41:37,200 or overdrafts. 514 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,800 The Department of Revenue recommends that municipalities maintain a free cash balance 515 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,400 of no less than 5% of the fiscal year operating budget. 516 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:52,120 In 2018, the Select Board adopted a fiscal policy to generate free cash in the amount 517 00:41:52,120 --> 00:42:01,380 of three to five percent annually. The current free cash balance as of today is $6,152,852. 518 00:42:02,220 --> 00:42:07,320 This is after all of the intended use of free cash that was approved at the May 2026 annual 519 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:15,640 time meeting and is prior to certification by DOR for 7-1-2026. Solely accounting for the excess 520 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:21,200 local receipts and the turnbacks that were outlined in this presentation, it's estimated that free 521 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:31,200 the cash will be certified at $9,654,603, which is 5.69% of the FY27 operating budget 522 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,460 meeting the threshold to 5%. 523 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:39,120 This is not account for the full reconciliation of the balance sheet, so it is very likely 524 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,120 that free cash will be certified at a higher rate later this fall. 525 00:42:43,980 --> 00:42:50,520 So just to highlight and encompass the summary despite FY26 being a generally challenging 526 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:55,060 year, the town is still in a very healthy and stable financial position. 527 00:42:55,620 --> 00:42:59,640 Between free cash, the override stabilization and general stabilization, 528 00:43:00,060 --> 00:43:02,340 the town has over $26 million in reserves. 529 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:08,580 Departments strive to maintain appropriate budgets and strategically generate excess revenue. 530 00:43:09,540 --> 00:43:15,080 Despite the strong performance, we do recommend maintaining a more conservative longer term approach in our revenue projections. 531 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,120 Thank you for your time, and I look forward to answering any questions. 532 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:18,240 Questions? 533 00:43:19,260 --> 00:43:20,040 Thank you, Alex. 534 00:43:21,100 --> 00:43:23,520 Does Ms. Carr anything to add before we move on? 535 00:43:23,700 --> 00:43:23,960 Okay. 536 00:43:24,220 --> 00:43:24,620 Board members. 537 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:25,700 Questions, comments? 538 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:27,100 I have a couple. 539 00:43:27,220 --> 00:43:27,620 Thank you, Alex. 540 00:43:28,740 --> 00:43:33,400 The one question I have is just some clarification on the investment income side. 541 00:43:34,420 --> 00:43:40,300 What buckets of money make up the principle in which is earning that investment income 542 00:43:40,300 --> 00:43:44,200 or the, like, what buckets of money I'm assuming? 543 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,300 I mean, I know this is a free cash stabilization, 544 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,600 general stabilization, override stabilization, 545 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,040 plus, is there, or what goes into that number? 546 00:43:52,540 --> 00:43:53,440 I'm gonna take that. 547 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:59,020 So the vast majority of the investments that we have 548 00:43:59,020 --> 00:44:02,180 that we pull the interest off of in order 549 00:44:03,820 --> 00:44:06,560 is essentially what's called the operating fund, 550 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:11,240 which is an excess, it's like the checkbook balance 551 00:44:11,240 --> 00:44:13,400 at the end of any month or quarter 552 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,760 that the treasure does not feel that she needs to draw upon. 553 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:23,160 So in total, it is about 60% of our annual revenues 554 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,320 that we are able to invest 555 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,100 because we can manage the cash flow on a monthly basis 556 00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:32,000 without kind of dipping into those other funds. 557 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,340 And that differentiates from those other accounts 558 00:44:36,340 --> 00:44:38,860 like stabilization funds and trust funds 559 00:44:38,860 --> 00:44:42,900 because those accounts themselves retain their own interest. 560 00:44:42,900 --> 00:44:51,660 So, as the stabilization fund or the override stabilization fund earns interest, it is reinvested 561 00:44:51,660 --> 00:44:56,100 or added to that account balance every year. 562 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:57,080 Okay. 563 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,720 So yeah, so essentially 564 00:45:00,210 --> 00:45:27,490 Because the budget or that operating balance is increasing your over year because you're always effectively increasing because we're not drawing down from that. So unless there is some external impact that's going to affect overall interest rates, you should consistently see performance on that investment income because the base amount that you're using is always going up your rear. Yeah, that is, that is correct. 565 00:45:27,490 --> 00:45:30,810 in fact, barring a reduction in people paying their taxes, 566 00:45:31,190 --> 00:45:34,290 obviously, and the reason that has been a little bit elevated 567 00:45:34,290 --> 00:45:37,610 is because treasury notes have average between, 568 00:45:38,270 --> 00:45:39,690 you know, three and a quarter and four percent. 569 00:45:40,290 --> 00:45:42,490 So that has brought us additional revenue, 570 00:45:42,650 --> 00:45:44,110 but in theory, you're absolutely right. 571 00:45:44,310 --> 00:45:46,570 Like we shouldn't have to drop on these funds 572 00:45:46,570 --> 00:45:47,610 and they should be reliable. 573 00:45:48,230 --> 00:45:51,190 While we do with our financial advisor as every January, 574 00:45:51,530 --> 00:45:56,390 we sit down with them and we look at the date to maturity 575 00:45:56,390 --> 00:46:01,730 of those treasury funds and ensure that they provide us with a good estimate on revenues 576 00:46:01,730 --> 00:46:06,910 as we build the local receipts plan for that fiscal year. 577 00:46:07,630 --> 00:46:13,590 And we normally average about just less than four years to maturity on all those notes. 578 00:46:13,770 --> 00:46:18,770 So we do have kind of a leading indicator if once treasury notes turn, it's not going to 579 00:46:18,770 --> 00:46:19,690 turn on us immediately. 580 00:46:19,990 --> 00:46:23,690 And they would budget accordingly for that revenue source, right? 581 00:46:29,370 --> 00:46:35,050 I have two questions. So first question like you mentioned like 10% increase in local 582 00:46:35,050 --> 00:46:40,890 receipts. I would like to know what is the source of that increase like coming from the 583 00:46:40,890 --> 00:46:46,850 excise or some where it's coming from Germany. So definitely motor vehicle excise is a big 584 00:46:46,850 --> 00:46:54,030 contributor to us feeling confident in increasing that budget amount, also investment income and 585 00:46:54,030 --> 00:46:58,110 and then just knowing that the revenue lines 586 00:46:58,110 --> 00:47:00,270 that we've far exceeded the budget amount 587 00:47:00,850 --> 00:47:03,290 felt more confident in bringing up those baselines. 588 00:47:03,670 --> 00:47:05,390 So anything coming from the department like 589 00:47:05,390 --> 00:47:08,270 I heard a lot of ADU are coming and that also. 590 00:47:09,350 --> 00:47:11,130 Yeah, so licenses and like building permits 591 00:47:11,130 --> 00:47:13,990 thing that category has also been performing very well 592 00:47:13,990 --> 00:47:15,330 over the past few years as well. 593 00:47:15,530 --> 00:47:18,170 Well, the second question is like you've mentioned 594 00:47:18,170 --> 00:47:22,110 on the expenditure as a decline, that person, 595 00:47:22,110 --> 00:47:24,330 and I would like to know which department, 596 00:47:24,330 --> 00:47:28,550 just like if we had an artist spending or decline is there. 597 00:47:28,970 --> 00:47:31,570 Which departments turn back funds? 598 00:47:33,090 --> 00:47:35,170 No, no, you'd mention like a bit of expenditure 599 00:47:35,170 --> 00:47:35,890 also decline. 600 00:47:37,610 --> 00:47:38,230 Expenditure? 601 00:47:40,130 --> 00:47:42,190 I don't think so, no. 602 00:47:42,570 --> 00:47:46,570 So can you just summarize the total expenditures percentage-wise 603 00:47:46,570 --> 00:47:47,590 and what we did turn back? 604 00:47:47,590 --> 00:48:01,590 Yep, so we spent 99.49% of the FY26 budget, so that equates to essentially $820,000 605 00:48:01,590 --> 00:48:05,630 across all town departments was left unspent at the end of FY26. 606 00:48:05,950 --> 00:48:09,030 Please happen every year or this year isn't more or more like a different question. 607 00:48:09,210 --> 00:48:13,390 This year is lower compared to previous years, as far as what's been left unspent. 608 00:48:13,390 --> 00:48:16,250 And all my next question, where did you use it? 609 00:48:16,370 --> 00:48:19,890 What, for example, last time you used that money somewhere, 610 00:48:20,590 --> 00:48:22,730 why not this year, like, we have 800 back? 611 00:48:25,740 --> 00:48:27,000 Why is it lower? 612 00:48:28,260 --> 00:48:31,980 I think the, so the areas that we touched on with public buildings 613 00:48:31,980 --> 00:48:36,420 and increased utility costs, staff recruitment and retention, 614 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,620 it was just, it was a year where a lot of departments 615 00:48:40,260 --> 00:48:43,160 were spending essentially very close up 616 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,360 to their budgeted amounts just due to inflation 617 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:47,820 and higher costs in areas. 618 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:50,780 Thank you. 619 00:48:50,780 --> 00:48:51,400 Do it. 620 00:48:52,500 --> 00:48:53,500 Another question. 621 00:48:55,220 --> 00:48:58,160 Pivoting here on to the real estate personal property. 622 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,840 I know we had talked, I know it was in a workshop, 623 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:08,500 about let's say outstanding receivables that say on the tax 624 00:49:08,500 --> 00:49:08,960 side. 625 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:17,700 If it shows here that where collections are, let's say, 99% in a given year, is there 626 00:49:18,290 --> 00:49:22,480 a separate, I'm obviously I think we're tracking it separately, but some of these years 627 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:30,240 it seemed like there was a bigger gap than, let's say, $1,400 or, you know, $4,000 gap between 628 00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:35,640 what was built and what's actually collected, where is that kind of the historic tracking 629 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:41,300 of that non-payment, let's say, is that, I understand what I'm kind of asking. 630 00:49:41,300 --> 00:49:41,880 I think I understand. 631 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:46,260 Because you're showing, I guess, because my understanding was there was, there was 632 00:49:46,260 --> 00:49:51,940 essentially an un-build, or not say, I say unpaid tax balance, I thought it was over $2 633 00:49:51,940 --> 00:49:56,100 million in the entire town, but I don't know where that doesn't really show up here is 634 00:49:56,100 --> 00:49:56,380 how it worked. 635 00:49:56,460 --> 00:50:01,060 No, so it'd be, it'd be the aggregate of all, literally, all years prior. 636 00:50:01,860 --> 00:50:03,280 So it's, you know, some problems. 637 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,840 Yeah, so all the 30 years or something like that. 638 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,500 And it gets pulled into a tax title account. 639 00:50:12,580 --> 00:50:17,360 And once it's moved into tax title, it's no longer a show. 640 00:50:17,620 --> 00:50:18,800 OK, that's what I would. 641 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,520 So does the actual build amount come off as well with this 642 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,300 if it's in tax title? 643 00:50:24,940 --> 00:50:25,620 It does. 644 00:50:25,940 --> 00:50:26,900 OK, that's where I was. 645 00:50:27,020 --> 00:50:27,900 OK, that makes more sense. 646 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,360 Now, the follow-up is in the personal property. 647 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,600 Like, I don't know if we really, this is commercial property equipment, correct? 648 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,740 What is our recourse on collection when it comes to personal property? 649 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:46,160 I know it's, okay, it's $100,000, but it's still $100,000, so that's 7%, do we have any 650 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:47,940 recourse on collection of that? 651 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:48,620 Very little. 652 00:50:49,580 --> 00:50:53,420 Personal property law is almost an honor system. 653 00:50:53,800 --> 00:51:00,260 The businesses have to report to us on what's called form of list, which is all there 654 00:51:00,260 --> 00:51:03,480 listed assets within their buildings for their businesses. 655 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:09,400 What we have been doing over the past four years since Ruth Anderson's been principal 656 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,960 assessors, we've been spent in $10,000 a year to hire an external auditor to go out and 657 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:23,900 physically audit, and that has yielded over $800,000, so it's just doing that extra work every 658 00:51:23,900 --> 00:51:26,780 year to go in and verify and then collect. 659 00:51:27,300 --> 00:51:32,000 And if they don't allow, you can estimate, you're allowed to do an estimate with that. 660 00:51:32,260 --> 00:51:32,320 Yes. 661 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:32,620 Okay. 662 00:51:37,140 --> 00:51:37,820 I'm sure. 663 00:51:38,180 --> 00:51:38,420 Yes. 664 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:39,780 I have some questions to start with. 665 00:51:40,860 --> 00:51:46,820 Director Martinez, thank you so much for being here with us and for this work and for 666 00:51:46,820 --> 00:51:47,320 the information. 667 00:51:48,620 --> 00:51:51,920 I had a question about the loss of somebody. 668 00:51:53,660 --> 00:51:57,420 I had a question about the revenue under performers. 669 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:06,520 I'm in particular, I think, looking at the bottom three, which are about half-elected cannabis. 670 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,260 I know as a new, relatively new for us to budget. 671 00:52:10,540 --> 00:52:15,040 Are we thinking of readjusting that to lower better expectations? 672 00:52:15,460 --> 00:52:20,980 Yeah, I would say the last two, specifically other excise and other departmental revenue, 673 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:25,860 when we look to the FY28 revenue manual in the coming weeks, 674 00:52:25,860 --> 00:52:31,120 We would definitely make an adjustment, you know, those are things that maybe have fluctuated 675 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:35,600 a little bit, but especially the other X size for cannabis, we've seen that trending 676 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,680 down consistently pretty much every year. 677 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,940 So we will write size these lines in the FI28 revenue manual. 678 00:52:44,260 --> 00:52:44,440 Great. 679 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:50,760 And then I think I was a little bit surprised to see that the meal stacks was a little bit 680 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:51,340 shy, too. 681 00:52:51,940 --> 00:52:56,960 Are we seeing that trending, is that stabilized, is that stable, or is that trending down 682 00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:05,040 work as well. We've seen that be pretty stable since COVID. Right. It's it's not off by by a lot, 683 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:09,840 but you know, just something that we will keep an eye on, but it's it's remained pretty stable. 684 00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:14,320 I think and I think you may have sessioned it, but I think my last question was just on the 685 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:19,120 turnbacks. Is there any trends within the turnbacks any departments in particular that are? 686 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:26,780 Honestly, probably not this year that we could, that have been in previous years. 687 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:33,180 So in previous years, I would say our big turn back categories were police and highway due 688 00:53:33,180 --> 00:53:34,780 to vacancies and due to the snow and ice. 689 00:53:35,020 --> 00:53:37,160 And so those were actually challenges this year. 690 00:53:37,860 --> 00:53:45,500 So much more like truly department by department, you know, maybe $50,000 here, maybe a vacancy 691 00:53:45,500 --> 00:53:53,540 that wasn't filled for half the year, so nothing really significant from, you know, one or two 692 00:53:53,540 --> 00:53:58,720 individual departments. That's helpful and I think, you know, I appreciate the culture that we have, 693 00:53:58,900 --> 00:54:05,500 where those budgets that we set for each one is a spending cap versus a target. I think that's 694 00:54:05,500 --> 00:54:07,700 really important to call out, so thank you. 695 00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,220 You mentioned we have about $26 million in reserves 696 00:54:14,220 --> 00:54:18,840 between our general stabilization, overhead stabilization and free cash. 697 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:29,640 So we have a 5% our policy and free cash is to have at least 5% of our operating budget held in free cash. 698 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:40,880 Can you talk to us about, we talk about overheads and needing an overhead in the future when we have $26 million in reserves. 699 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:46,760 but understanding can you explain sort of what we're approaching with our 700 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,520 over-ride stabilization, what our policies are in general stabilization, and why 701 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,980 it's important to keep those in reserves. Like even while we have some of that 702 00:54:53,980 --> 00:54:58,860 funding in reserves, we may still start talking about needing an override and why 703 00:54:58,860 --> 00:55:04,800 that matters. Yeah, I mean I think talking first to the over-ride stabilization 704 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:10,680 fund, which I think is just over $10 million, you know. When we get to the 705 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:18,500 point of needing to draw down on that, it's going to go very quickly. So while it's a substantial amount, 706 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:24,880 it's almost, you know, it's over the actual ask of the override, it will go quickly once we start to draw down on it. 707 00:55:25,860 --> 00:55:32,180 And that, I think, are we, can you remind me of when we're projecting to start drawing down on the override stabilization? 708 00:55:32,180 --> 00:55:33,640 You're 28. Okay. 709 00:55:38,530 --> 00:55:43,270 And can you talk a little bit about general stabilization and what we use that for like when we 710 00:55:43,270 --> 00:55:48,230 Use the funding in general stabilization and and why we hold that 711 00:55:48,810 --> 00:55:49,650 Yeah, so 712 00:55:49,650 --> 00:55:54,210 We aim to have general stabilization also at 5% of the general fund 713 00:55:54,770 --> 00:55:58,230 That's really the town's true rainy day fund to cover 714 00:55:58,930 --> 00:56:05,730 Emergencies and unexpected events or circumstances. I don't recall the last time we've actually drawn down on general stabilization 715 00:56:05,730 --> 00:56:12,450 We would prefer not to, so it'd really be, you know, something catastrophic to the town finances to grow down on that. 716 00:56:13,270 --> 00:56:13,970 Thank you. 717 00:56:14,390 --> 00:56:24,190 So, if you look at that $26 million of the appropriated budget for fiscal year, 27 year, at about 15%. 718 00:56:24,810 --> 00:56:30,690 If you're not at 15%, and you go for a bond rating, you won't get a AAA. 719 00:56:30,690 --> 00:56:41,870 I mean, 15% is the standard floor for a AAA bond rating, and so it's really in these 720 00:56:41,870 --> 00:56:48,890 three separate buckets that Alex talked about, and they can be used for specific purposes. 721 00:56:49,610 --> 00:56:56,090 But together, having them at 15% means that we're able to achieve a AAA, one of the reasons 722 00:56:56,090 --> 00:56:58,330 since we're able to achieve a AAA bond rating. 723 00:56:58,650 --> 00:57:01,290 And one of the reasons, one of the outcomes from that 724 00:57:01,290 --> 00:57:03,250 is much lower interest rates when we borrow. 725 00:57:03,770 --> 00:57:05,870 So we have to go out to borrow for something. 726 00:57:06,590 --> 00:57:08,390 We're saving, in some cases, 727 00:57:08,550 --> 00:57:10,730 depending on a major capital improvement project, 728 00:57:10,930 --> 00:57:13,010 hundreds of thousands of dollars every year 729 00:57:13,010 --> 00:57:14,650 because of that AAA bond rating 730 00:57:14,650 --> 00:57:16,390 versus a much lower bond rating, 731 00:57:17,190 --> 00:57:20,290 especially in a volatile municipal bond market 732 00:57:20,290 --> 00:57:21,170 like we're in right now. 733 00:57:21,390 --> 00:57:24,370 So we put all those three things together 734 00:57:24,370 --> 00:57:27,930 and that's why, as we're going through the budget process, we're advising the board 735 00:57:27,930 --> 00:57:31,590 how much money we're spending in free cash at Tom meeting. 736 00:57:32,030 --> 00:57:37,530 So we are using those reserves, but then replenishing them from the excess revenues 737 00:57:37,530 --> 00:57:40,970 and unexpended appropriations. 738 00:57:41,190 --> 00:57:44,790 So we're looking at that throughout the course of the year, making sure we line it up. 739 00:57:44,790 --> 00:57:50,450 And as you can see, this year, Alex's estimate is that we're 5.6% on a 5% policy level. 740 00:57:50,450 --> 00:57:56,470 So we're spending the resources that we have to provide services and maintaining reserve 741 00:57:56,470 --> 00:57:58,350 so we're flexible if something goes wrong. 742 00:58:02,180 --> 00:58:10,400 I appreciate the diligence in keeping us in budget very consistently when a lot of 743 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:14,760 other cities and towns have not been able to do that and I know is that balance and we'll 744 00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:21,740 clearly go into those discussions when we start getting into fiscal 28 as to you know 745 00:58:21,740 --> 00:58:28,500 how to project with the appropriate balance of conservatism to ensure we can stay in 746 00:58:28,500 --> 00:58:35,780 budget, as well as being aggressive, where we don't want to, you know, ask for significantly 747 00:58:35,780 --> 00:58:37,580 more than what we need. 748 00:58:37,780 --> 00:58:42,820 And I think the good thing about our stabilization strategy is in years like 25, when local 749 00:58:42,820 --> 00:58:50,100 receipts were, I don't want to call it a normally high, but higher than expected, that money was 750 00:58:50,100 --> 00:58:56,240 pulled into that stabilization fund in order to prolong the time period of meeting to 751 00:58:56,240 --> 00:59:05,320 ask the community for a tax increase. So I appreciate the update and I'm sure we'll 752 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:11,160 be reflecting on a lot of this as we go into this next budget cycle which we're kind 753 00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:15,700 of already starting. So look forward to those discussions. Board members any other questions 754 00:59:15,700 --> 00:59:17,040 or comments for Alex. 755 00:59:18,180 --> 00:59:18,860 Thank you for being here. 756 00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:19,780 Really appreciate it. 757 00:59:20,020 --> 00:59:20,360 Thank you. 758 00:59:23,780 --> 00:59:25,380 agenda item number nine. 759 00:59:25,780 --> 00:59:28,760 I am so excited for this. 760 00:59:29,020 --> 00:59:29,720 I've been waiting. 761 00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:34,640 Is to review and discuss the future use of 15 maple avenue 762 00:59:35,350 --> 00:59:39,260 known locally as Empire Dry Cleaners. 763 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:40,800 Mr. Mugold or a cow are you? 764 00:59:41,220 --> 00:59:41,540 Thank you. 765 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,060 Christopher Mugold, Director of Planning, Economic Development. 766 00:59:44,820 --> 00:59:46,280 Thank you for having me tonight. 767 00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:51,280 I'm equally excited to discuss this with you this evening. 768 00:59:56,780 --> 00:59:59,100 So, before we get started, 769 00:59:59,100 --> 00:59:59,860 and staff. 770 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,680 This is in the process of finalizing recommendations regarding a 15-maple of property. For this evening, we've been asked to summarize the community engagement findings that we have gone through. The public outreach process consisted of an online survey, two community workshops, and we had one of the highest levels of public engagement for some of our other similar 771 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:40,100 activities. So we received a 1,029 survey responses. The vast majority of those were residents. 772 01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:48,260 We also had strong attendance at the workshops, which were held on March 31st and April 14th. 773 01:00:48,260 --> 01:00:57,220 The goal of these exercises was to gather insights to guide the future decision making, ensuring 774 01:00:57,220 --> 01:01:11,120 that the community preferences are balanced against critical factors, which included environmental constraints, regulatory requirements, financial considerations, and really sought to see the community's idealized version of the property. 775 01:01:11,900 --> 01:01:17,600 And then we'll get those constraints in relation to the idealized vision. 776 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,660 Next slide please. 777 01:01:21,460 --> 01:01:26,740 So as we engage with the residents, two distinct versions of the property and visions 778 01:01:26,740 --> 01:01:34,480 kind of emerged, there's very strong consensus along both of these two visions and it really 779 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:40,360 developed around public parking or public recreation facilities. 780 01:01:42,180 --> 01:01:50,260 We had significant input in relation to operations, considerations, and amenities that would be useful in these areas. 781 01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:59,540 Concerns were brought up whether the two could be effectively balanced or combined or whether they would retract from each other. 782 01:02:00,140 --> 01:02:05,120 So there is a desire for both, but there is a desire to make sure that they're not detracting from each other. 783 01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:09,160 So they have to be balanced in the way that they would be developed. 784 01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:11,440 Next slide, please. 785 01:02:15,010 --> 01:02:19,290 As part of our analysis, we ran a correlation analysis on the survey responses. 786 01:02:19,530 --> 01:02:23,330 So with 1029 responses, we did go through most of those. 787 01:02:23,510 --> 01:02:28,370 But we did use that correlation analysis to help us kind of find what are the 788 01:02:28,370 --> 01:02:33,310 common themes related to some of the open-ended responses that we received 789 01:02:33,310 --> 01:02:37,150 and the questions that we had directed towards the community. 790 01:02:38,260 --> 01:02:42,290 One of the ways that we formulated the questions was around agreeing and disagree. 791 01:02:43,510 --> 01:02:48,650 What this shows is both what amenities receive the most engagement and the most discussion, 792 01:02:49,460 --> 01:02:52,730 as well as showing the public sentiment generally around each of those. 793 01:02:52,930 --> 01:02:59,570 So whether they were engaging with that, amenity and disagree with having that or agreeing 794 01:02:59,570 --> 01:03:00,170 with that. 795 01:03:06,220 --> 01:03:10,980 A number of other additional discussion points also emerged. 796 01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:16,500 A lot of the conversation again around parking versus recreational recreation. 797 01:03:17,550 --> 01:03:22,840 We saw that there was a weak negative correlation between those who prioritize parking and those 798 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,420 who prioritize prioritized recreation. 799 01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,860 The site's limited size also necessitates trade off. 800 01:03:29,860 --> 01:03:34,220 So again, when it's in a tight site, how we're balancing efficient parking, 801 01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:41,420 providing enough parking spaces with providing enough recreational amenity that's useful to develop and maintain. 802 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:50,460 The main tension is really how to design a layout that does not result in an ineffective half measure for either of those functions. 803 01:03:51,860 --> 01:03:55,220 In addition, parking management was a key discussion point. 804 01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,440 While there is a majority support for providing public parking, 805 01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,140 There is no consensus on charging for it. 806 01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:07,580 Slightly more respondents opposed paid parking than supported it, so there's a rough sentiment 807 01:04:07,580 --> 01:04:08,900 against paid parking. 808 01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:20,040 And then environmental constraints, there was conversation around the existing, whether 809 01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:25,280 the site's existing contamination makes public recreation or gardening inappropriate, or if 810 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:29,120 represents an opportunity to demonstrate sustainable remediation techniques. 811 01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:41,660 It also had conversation whether the public recreation or gardening is inappropriate and does it present an opportunity to demonstrate sustainable remediation techniques. 812 01:04:45,300 --> 01:04:53,160 And then public versus commercial, I understand that the town is currently exploring public uses but there was some sentiment for 813 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:57,620 the community that favored commercial redevelopment to generate tax revenue and support local businesses. 814 01:04:58,060 --> 01:05:04,540 So I understand that's not directive for the board, but that was a sentiment that did emerge in some sense. 815 01:05:10,620 --> 01:05:17,160 So we also saw strong community support for green space and recreation specifically support for 816 01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:23,640 the multifunctional design as long as it's compatible, supporting youth needs, specifically walking 817 01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:28,860 a home from school so those familiar with the area said a couple times, the middle 818 01:05:28,860 --> 01:05:34,440 schoolers will walk along this area towards the library, towards the Dunkin' Noenets, and 819 01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,720 it is a frequent travel area. 820 01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:44,760 We did have attendance of some middle schoolers at the actual workshops, and they indicated 821 01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:49,960 that there is interest in having a place to hang out and socialize that wouldn't be 822 01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:53,460 the impactful on a butters and this may provide that opportunity for that space. 823 01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,020 I did like the sentiment from one of the middle schoolers of keep it simple. 824 01:05:57,580 --> 01:06:01,680 They don't need too many of amenities and kind of crazy things, but 825 01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,180 just something to hang out in a space to be. 826 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:12,240 And then there was also the sentiment that it needs to be designed to fit into the broader town center fabric. 827 01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:18,660 And how is that property really not just to the surrounding of butters but the town center as a whole. 828 01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:25,940 A key element would be supporting existing businesses and their operations and their 829 01:06:25,940 --> 01:06:26,520 vibrancy. 830 01:06:27,740 --> 01:06:28,780 Next slide. 831 01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:36,560 So as we evaluate hybrid alternatives, rather than selecting that single use option, 832 01:06:37,620 --> 01:06:43,060 staff intends to model conceptual alternatives that would combine compatible uses such as public 833 01:06:43,060 --> 01:06:49,340 parking with integrated green space and recreational amenities and define a parking policy. 834 01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:57,820 We do need to develop a clear policy decision regarding parking management, free versus 835 01:06:57,820 --> 01:07:03,900 paid, and set public expectations as the community is divided on that issue, despite the supporting 836 01:07:03,900 --> 01:07:05,520 the provision of parking itself. 837 01:07:14,290 --> 01:07:19,270 Future planning must reconcile community desires for features like community gardens or playgrounds 838 01:07:19,270 --> 01:07:22,350 with the reality of site contamination and remediation requirements. 839 01:07:23,670 --> 01:07:28,750 We recommend continuing engagement, so proceeding with the designs that reflect the strong interest 840 01:07:28,750 --> 01:07:35,230 and youth oriented spaces and third spaces, while remaining sensitive to the small quarter 841 01:07:35,230 --> 01:07:35,850 acre footprint. 842 01:07:37,070 --> 01:07:41,790 The principal community debate is not between dozens of unrelated amenities, rather it's primarily 843 01:07:41,790 --> 01:07:46,130 about the balance among community recreation space, parking, and green space. 844 01:07:46,130 --> 01:07:50,850 There's meaningful community support for providing public parking, but not a clear consensus 845 01:07:50,850 --> 01:07:52,150 that parking should be priced. 846 01:07:53,230 --> 01:07:56,750 And there's considerable public interest in better understanding the existing and past 847 01:07:56,750 --> 01:08:00,610 site contamination, especially as it relates to the reuse of the site. 848 01:08:01,150 --> 01:08:05,870 Clear communication and public education around the technical aspects of the contamination 849 01:08:05,870 --> 01:08:08,150 and cleanup strategies will be crucial. 850 01:08:08,810 --> 01:08:09,930 All right, next up. 851 01:08:13,290 --> 01:08:17,970 So the next steps are to provide staff with a clear direction on which option, recreation, 852 01:08:17,970 --> 01:08:21,370 or parking to prioritize evaluate opportunities 853 01:08:21,370 --> 01:08:23,130 for mutually supporting objectives, 854 01:08:23,350 --> 01:08:26,450 whether it's street trees, paving options, and more, 855 01:08:27,230 --> 01:08:30,630 to determine if staff should evaluate paid parking opportunities 856 01:08:30,630 --> 01:08:33,330 or pursue no paid parking. 857 01:08:33,890 --> 01:08:37,110 And then evaluate findings of the recent environmental reviews 858 01:08:37,410 --> 01:08:38,890 conducted by Beta Group Bank, 859 01:08:39,490 --> 01:08:41,150 the environmental site assessments 860 01:08:41,150 --> 01:08:43,090 and develop public communication materials 861 01:08:43,090 --> 01:08:44,630 around those findings. 862 01:08:45,830 --> 01:08:52,310 A draft report is anticipated by the end of August when we have some additional considerations 863 01:08:53,510 --> 01:09:00,030 that we may want to consider with some of the zoning and other matters coming down the 864 01:09:00,030 --> 01:09:00,330 pipeline. 865 01:09:00,690 --> 01:09:06,630 So one of the items that came up was solar canopy feasibility, especially in relation to battery 866 01:09:06,630 --> 01:09:11,550 energy storage and EV opportunities, if that's something that should be explored as a moving 867 01:09:11,550 --> 01:09:16,570 target, and then refining that preliminary schematic design in relation to the findings 868 01:09:16,570 --> 01:09:17,610 of the community engagement. 869 01:09:18,050 --> 01:09:18,610 So, first 870 01:09:21,430 --> 01:09:25,310 before I turn it over to questions, when you say a draft report is anticipated 871 01:09:25,310 --> 01:09:27,490 by the end of August, what do you mean? 872 01:09:27,810 --> 01:09:33,010 Is that the environmental report, is that a report that you're developing? 873 01:09:33,490 --> 01:09:38,690 Yeah, so it's a comprehensive report from our office, so it includes the findings and summary 874 01:09:38,690 --> 01:09:44,150 of the public engagement, it includes a summary of all of the environmental reports to 875 01:09:44,150 --> 01:09:48,570 date and then would provide recommendations for next steps. We've kind of previewed a few 876 01:09:48,570 --> 01:09:52,810 of those here but again we'll refine those in relation to the public engagement and 877 01:09:52,810 --> 01:09:59,370 kind of discussion with the board. Great. So when you say you want staff, you need clear 878 01:09:59,370 --> 01:10:03,150 direction. You're not looking for that direction right now. No. Thank you. Okay. I was 879 01:10:03,150 --> 01:10:09,270 a little worried at first. That's important. Board members, comments, questions? 880 01:10:13,440 --> 01:10:13,840 I think 881 01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:23,220 that having more details around aligning with what you heard for community preferences 882 01:10:23,220 --> 01:10:25,280 and what is realistic. 883 01:10:25,900 --> 01:10:31,620 So I heard you say that there's a preference for it to be not just parking or not just 884 01:10:31,620 --> 01:10:36,360 recreation or, and I do think that from a technical perspective, we need to define what 885 01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:37,780 green space is. 886 01:10:38,820 --> 01:10:42,660 But it would be interesting, you know, to call out the fact that it is a quarter acre 887 01:10:42,660 --> 01:10:49,560 I mean, we have to be mindful about what realistically can be done there, so I'll be very 888 01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:56,400 curious as part of your reporting to understand what some of those options are to, if it 889 01:10:56,400 --> 01:11:00,080 is an option to have multiple things there. 890 01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:04,560 Yeah, and to add a little bit of context and flavor to that, so part of the discussion that 891 01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:10,220 we had, we do have schematic designs, really preliminary, that kind of conceptual level, 892 01:11:10,220 --> 01:11:25,020 that DPW did develop for us that showed, I think it was 15 parking spaces on the lot leaves a little bit of green space that could be programmed and that was a lot of the discussion of, you know, is 15 spaces. 893 01:11:25,020 --> 01:11:34,500 Is that really providing the parking that we want to see in the center of town or, you know, if we do green space, you know, it is a small amount of green space left. 894 01:11:34,500 --> 01:11:40,300 So again, that kind of balance, I think one of the comments that kind of struck me was so 895 01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:45,400 struggling with that themselves and they said, you know, I want to have parking. I want to 896 01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:49,860 have green space. I know we can't have both, but why can't we have both? And I think we can 897 01:11:49,860 --> 01:11:56,920 try to look at how we can refine those for balancing those kinds of amenities that support parking 898 01:11:56,920 --> 01:12:01,220 and parking that supports green infrastructure and hopefully meet somewhere in the middle. 899 01:12:02,380 --> 01:12:04,300 I think understanding what those trade-offs are. 900 01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:10,080 So if you start with, if we do just exclusively parking, we get X spaces. 901 01:12:10,500 --> 01:12:14,240 And then sort of what the trade-off is, how many spaces we have to give up in order 902 01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:17,760 to accommodate some of these other options. 903 01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:30,820 I just have one, I guess, a comment or question, too, is, are you, because there is, I'd say 904 01:12:30,820 --> 01:12:37,280 surplus land, but from the actual Beal project, there's still at the backside of, let's 905 01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:41,900 say, Haskell, Wesleyan, town-owned, there's a remaining set of land there. 906 01:12:42,780 --> 01:12:49,780 Is there any connection, meaning like tying that remaining parcel to the quarter-acre? 907 01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:54,480 Because we do have, I mean, we gave up more than that, but I digress, we won't talk about 908 01:12:54,480 --> 01:12:54,860 that tonight. 909 01:12:54,860 --> 01:13:01,820 but to have, let's say, green space or what are we going to do with that left 910 01:13:01,820 --> 01:13:07,300 overland as well as what's left over for empire cleaners. Was there any plants 911 01:13:07,300 --> 01:13:12,660 that connected to? So in this scope we haven't looked at both parcels that was 912 01:13:12,660 --> 01:13:16,440 one of the sentiments that was raised of fitting it within the larger town 913 01:13:16,440 --> 01:13:23,320 center fabric. So as we look at possible disposition so I know that that remaining 914 01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:29,280 parcel we returned back to the town and we would do a similar process as this to figure out 915 01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:36,960 what the town wants to do with that parcel. But at this time and for this report we haven't 916 01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:41,040 connected those because that's not undetermined at the stage. 917 01:13:45,420 --> 01:13:51,560 Yes, in this case though I want to suggest like the laundry one we can use at the parking 918 01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:57,020 in this way. The second one, we can create the youth focus area where kids can come from 919 01:13:57,020 --> 01:14:01,920 the school and they can hang around that area. And we could have a parking, complete 920 01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,760 parking that down like people are looking for that option too. 921 01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:17,440 We good? Okay. Thank you. We really look forward to hearing more in, I guess, a few weeks. 922 01:14:17,440 --> 01:14:17,560 Next. 923 01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:18,780 Yep. 924 01:14:19,340 --> 01:14:19,560 Okay. 925 01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:21,320 Thank you. 926 01:14:21,580 --> 01:14:22,420 Thank you. 927 01:14:30,940 --> 01:14:35,680 agenda item number 10 is to review an act on the proposal for a welcoming community statement 928 01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:38,280 by the diversity equity inclusion and belonging committee. 929 01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:44,020 The committee has asked the town to adopt a welcoming community policy intended to affirm 930 01:14:44,020 --> 01:14:48,120 that all residents are welcome and treated fairly and choose very and reinforce expectations 931 01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:51,740 for interactions between town government, public safety and residents. 932 01:14:51,740 --> 01:14:59,720 So our discussion tonight is about whether adopting this policy is the right way to proceed given our existing laws policies and responses. 933 01:15:04,480 --> 01:15:12,540 I will turn it over to board members or any comments or discussion. Is there anyone who'd like to go first? 934 01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:14,960 I can go first. 935 01:15:15,940 --> 01:15:20,980 So I went to tell you from my side, I born in the small business where we don't have 936 01:15:20,980 --> 01:15:24,560 running water or toilet and I came from there. 937 01:15:25,340 --> 01:15:31,380 And when I came this town, this town is adapted me without asking my English, which is 938 01:15:31,380 --> 01:15:33,580 just what is my race, where I come from. 939 01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:38,300 And I've come also in the election time, also a lot of people, no one is right about where 940 01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:39,680 I come from. 941 01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:51,200 So, essentially, the government, moreover, the protect act is covered most of the things 942 01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:52,480 of what we are looking for. 943 01:15:52,860 --> 01:15:57,240 Even in the end, it says, all the down entity is come under that law. 944 01:15:57,460 --> 01:16:04,080 So, we have fully producted and we, I support this policy when in the June time, they came 945 01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:05,660 that time, it was not there. 946 01:16:05,660 --> 01:16:11,400 But now, you can see the eye act is covering most of the things for you. 947 01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:18,660 You can see like, we don't need that policy, but we can welcome that policy like it was before, and it was not there. 948 01:16:24,370 --> 01:16:25,210 Any other comments? 949 01:16:25,990 --> 01:16:26,710 Madam Chair, I do. 950 01:16:27,890 --> 01:16:28,810 Mr. Garcia, some comments. 951 01:16:29,750 --> 01:16:37,150 So I first want to thank the members of our diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging committee for bringing this matter to us. 952 01:16:37,150 --> 01:16:53,530 This recommendation for the town to create and adopt a welcoming community policy is one that the committee has worked on since December of 2024 and I commend them for gathering information in town as well as from the various communities across the Commonwealth that have adopted similar policies. 953 01:16:54,190 --> 01:17:06,110 I appreciated learning that since 2017 many other communities have taken action on accepting a welcoming community policy or similar and I commend them for their courage and sending up for the immigrants in their communities. 954 01:17:06,890 --> 01:17:12,710 I also want to thank the members of the public who have spoken in favor of this today either in public comment or by email correspondence. 955 01:17:13,330 --> 01:17:23,310 While we receive the handful of outreach in this, my thoughts are also with the folks in our community who might not ever reach out to us or come to public comment out of real concern that they have for their safety. 956 01:17:24,350 --> 01:17:27,710 I am in full support of creating a welcoming community policy. 957 01:17:28,370 --> 01:17:35,090 Through the many conversations I have had with community members, I know that there is real concern about the well-being of our immigrant neighbors and 958 01:17:35,090 --> 01:17:41,710 And those residents have expressed to me in confidence that they would like to see their own community take proactive steps to protect them. 959 01:17:42,510 --> 01:17:53,050 With ongoing fear stemming from federal immigration enforcement, I believe it is prudent that Shrewsbury stand up and write down in policy that we support the immigrants in our community that help make Shrewsbury the incredible town that it is. 960 01:17:53,930 --> 01:17:58,310 Supporting this policy is a matter of public safety and accessibility to our local government. 961 01:17:58,310 --> 01:18:04,590 We have here in Shrewsbury an increasingly diverse population where over one third of our residents are immigrants. 962 01:18:04,930 --> 01:18:09,630 These same folks are also more likely to view government as a threat rather than a source of support. 963 01:18:10,190 --> 01:18:13,890 As stated in our recent unanimously approved hazard mitigation plan. 964 01:18:14,830 --> 01:18:22,710 Adopting a welcoming community policy that expressly prohibits municipal staff from inquiring about immigration status is a proactive step that we can take. 965 01:18:22,710 --> 01:18:28,390 It would help us build trust with a segment of our population that already is inclined to not trust their local government. 966 01:18:28,970 --> 01:18:33,470 In conversations I have had with residents, there are folks who have real fear of showing up to town events, 967 01:18:33,890 --> 01:18:37,450 coming to town hall, or other public buildings, and participating in civic life. 968 01:18:38,270 --> 01:18:42,950 And I want to clarify something that appears to be misunderstood about what was sent over to us from the DEIB committee. 969 01:18:43,730 --> 01:18:47,450 In the committee's letter to us, they do not say that there is a policy that they have drafted. 970 01:18:47,450 --> 01:18:52,290 Instead, what they say is that they recommend that this board use the Native Select Board's 971 01:18:52,290 --> 01:18:55,070 policy as a blueprint for one that we would develop ourselves. 972 01:18:55,590 --> 01:18:59,750 I am confident that any concerns about encroachment into the town manager's responsibilities 973 01:18:59,750 --> 01:19:04,450 can and would be addressed in the work that would come if the board moves affirmatively. 974 01:19:05,550 --> 01:19:10,070 While it is expected that town staff do not collect information regarding immigration status, 975 01:19:10,630 --> 01:19:14,910 a written policy would demonstrate to the public our commitment to protecting our immigrant 976 01:19:14,910 --> 01:19:15,410 residents. 977 01:19:15,990 --> 01:19:20,430 As the only person on this board that grew up in town, I can proudly say that I wholeheartedly 978 01:19:20,430 --> 01:19:23,650 love this community, and I'm grateful for all the ways that this town has given back 979 01:19:23,650 --> 01:19:24,590 to me and my family. 980 01:19:25,370 --> 01:19:29,690 But as a person of color, I can tell you that throughout the course of my life, my family 981 01:19:29,690 --> 01:19:33,270 and I have experienced discrimination from the government and from the community members, 982 01:19:33,770 --> 01:19:34,630 even to this day. 983 01:19:35,330 --> 01:19:39,210 Those lived experiences are what motivated me to get involved in local government and what 984 01:19:39,210 --> 01:19:43,130 encouraged me to seek ways to help Shrewsbury become even more welcoming. 985 01:19:43,970 --> 01:19:49,550 exactly four years ago in 2022, well before I was elected to this body, I celebrated the 986 01:19:49,550 --> 01:19:53,630 select man at the time for establishing the diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging 987 01:19:53,630 --> 01:19:58,670 committee. Their mission to help the town foster an inclusive and equitable community that 988 01:19:58,670 --> 01:20:03,750 enhances belonging for all residents is a noble one. This is the committee's second recommendation 989 01:20:03,750 --> 01:20:09,290 to this board, and as a reminder for my colleagues, this board chose to pass on accepting their 990 01:20:09,290 --> 01:20:10,730 first recommendation back in 2023. 991 01:20:11,790 --> 01:20:15,190 I respectfully ask my colleagues to consider what signal this will send to the committee 992 01:20:15,190 --> 01:20:19,890 and community members if, once again, this board chooses to decline accepting a recommendation 993 01:20:19,890 --> 01:20:22,670 that is in line with the charge that the board has set out for them. 994 01:20:23,670 --> 01:20:26,610 I do also want to commend the Commonwealth for enacting the Protect Act. 995 01:20:27,090 --> 01:20:31,690 This act expands ways that the Commonwealth will proactively protect our immigrant neighbors 996 01:20:31,690 --> 01:20:32,590 across the Commonwealth. 997 01:20:33,250 --> 01:20:38,130 The State Administration just today really skydends on how schools can keep immigrant students 998 01:20:38,130 --> 01:20:38,850 and family safe. 999 01:20:39,830 --> 01:20:43,790 I would like all shoes very, I would like shoes very to expand on this and establish a policy 1000 01:20:43,790 --> 01:20:47,910 that encompasses all municipal staff so that we are doing our part in standing up for 1001 01:20:47,910 --> 01:20:48,650 our immigrant residents. 1002 01:20:49,490 --> 01:20:53,410 I will be voting in favor of this recommendation to stand up for our immigrants here in town 1003 01:20:53,410 --> 01:20:55,350 and I strongly urge my colleagues to do the same. 1004 01:20:56,010 --> 01:21:00,210 I also respectfully request that any action on this item be by roll call. 1005 01:21:00,210 --> 01:21:01,070 Go 1006 01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:06,000 ahead, Michelle. 1007 01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:06,420 Sure. 1008 01:21:06,860 --> 01:21:11,260 You know, it's hard to follow Carlos, I don't have prepared remarks on this. 1009 01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:20,180 I am in support of articulating a policy on this as requested by the DEIB committee. 1010 01:21:20,780 --> 01:21:29,300 I think that it's important that essentially what they presented to us, a lot of what 1011 01:21:29,300 --> 01:21:32,540 they are requesting are things that we already do in practice. 1012 01:21:32,540 --> 01:21:40,320 And there are many things that last year, the police department issued a statement articulating 1013 01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:42,800 their policies around immigration enforcement. 1014 01:21:43,420 --> 01:21:50,480 And so what the DIV committee is asking us to do is to sort of reaffirm the statement 1015 01:21:50,480 --> 01:21:56,320 that the police put out last year and to articulate some of the practices that we already have in 1016 01:21:56,320 --> 01:22:07,080 place here at Town Hall and just get those, you know, sort of codified. And I think it's 1017 01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:13,560 really important. The thing that really impacted me in reading your recommendations and 1018 01:22:14,100 --> 01:22:22,980 the research and all of the references that you included in your presentation, that there 1019 01:22:22,980 --> 01:22:28,560 There are people who are victims of crime who don't seek help because they are afraid. 1020 01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:36,300 And having a family member who did work for several years working with unaccompanied 1021 01:22:36,300 --> 01:22:44,200 minors and doing work at the federal level helping to support and bring children out of human 1022 01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:51,660 trafficking situations, you see the reality of this really dark underbelly that exists in 1023 01:22:51,660 --> 01:22:55,280 in our world today, that we live in this beautiful community, 1024 01:22:55,380 --> 01:22:58,080 we go about our day and we don't see things that are happening. 1025 01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:00,340 You don't know what's going on behind closed doors, 1026 01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:03,720 and you don't know when people are in crisis 1027 01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:08,040 and they can't come forward and ask for help 1028 01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:09,020 because they're afraid. 1029 01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:12,780 And I think that if we were to adopt this policy, 1030 01:23:12,820 --> 01:23:14,880 or develop and adopt a policy, 1031 01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,520 just sort of affirming our commitment 1032 01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:27,600 to representing every resident of this community regardless of their immigration status and that our job is to support and protect members of our community. 1033 01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:31,140 If it only helps one person, it will have been worth it. 1034 01:23:39,220 --> 01:23:44,840 Okay, I do just want to second the, I do appreciate any time anybody comes and 1035 01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:47,580 comes and does public comment in front of our board. 1036 01:23:47,660 --> 01:23:52,760 I know it's not always easy to stand up in public and do that and I think as a board we really appreciate 1037 01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:58,440 the feedback, because oftentimes as many people think we know how people believing or how 1038 01:23:58,440 --> 01:23:59,900 people are thinking on things, we really don't. 1039 01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:04,280 So I do appreciate all the emails and the individuals who came tonight to speak. 1040 01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:09,040 I kind of look at this more from kind of an operational lens. 1041 01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:17,580 And I think the original meeting we have is back in July or July 6, I believe, when the 1042 01:24:17,580 --> 01:24:21,380 the IB community was in front of us, but I think it was as was mentioned before, you know, 1043 01:24:21,480 --> 01:24:26,980 since that time on, I think August 5th, you know, the state has passed the Protect Act, 1044 01:24:26,980 --> 01:24:31,940 which essentially encompasses a majority of what we're talking about today. 1045 01:24:32,100 --> 01:24:37,140 Specifically, some of the comments that were made here by the board as well as the residents 1046 01:24:37,140 --> 01:24:42,700 who came and spoke about, let's say, fear about where it comes to police or interaction with 1047 01:24:42,700 --> 01:24:43,240 law enforcement. 1048 01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:50,340 And now, to me, you know, as much as I think people believe that we have powers or ability 1049 01:24:50,340 --> 01:24:54,780 to enact whatever we want on top of Shrewsbury, you know, we are governed by Massachusetts 1050 01:24:54,780 --> 01:24:55,460 General Law. 1051 01:24:55,580 --> 01:25:01,880 That's a very strong act by having mass general law that's essentially saying that we, 1052 01:25:02,180 --> 01:25:07,540 as municipality, have to operate within those boundaries, and that's been very clear. 1053 01:25:07,540 --> 01:25:14,640 So by us as a board, I mean, my belief is ensuring that Mr. 1054 01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:19,200 Mizokar and town staff are abiding by the state law that was passed and 1055 01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:22,260 ensuring that we're following those guidelines. 1056 01:25:23,020 --> 01:25:27,860 In terms of the municipal employees, I believe in conversations I've had with Mr. 1057 01:25:28,060 --> 01:25:34,620 Mizokar along the way here is I'm not aware of any interactions or 1058 01:25:34,620 --> 01:25:47,660 any department that has ever asked or whatever need to ask the immigration status of anyone who would come into town hall and interact with the town of Shrewsbury as a government. 1059 01:25:50,240 --> 01:26:00,180 I don't believe that us putting a policy in place would change the way that we operate as a town. 1060 01:26:00,180 --> 01:26:09,160 or the way anybody and the member of the community interacts with any municipal employee or any member of the police department. 1061 01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:23,180 And I would much rather have us make a statement that we fully support the Protect Act and that we set expectations with Mr. 1062 01:26:23,180 --> 01:26:28,700 about how our staff should, in fact, interact with residents. 1063 01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:36,740 And for my standpoint, I just don't want to put in place a policy that doesn't really change anything operationally. 1064 01:26:36,940 --> 01:26:39,040 And I do feel that that would be the case here. 1065 01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:46,340 The state law is much more powerful, it's a much stronger ability to control behavior. 1066 01:26:47,100 --> 01:26:53,140 And so for me, I don't believe this is something that we as a board should take up. 1067 01:26:53,140 --> 01:26:57,740 and put in a place because I think we're already operating that way and, as I mentioned, 1068 01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:03,100 that the state law will be guiding us as how we operate as a community. 1069 01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:18,540 I also want to thank the DEIB Committee and the residents who spoke to us this evening and who wrote to us. 1070 01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:23,660 I fully recognize that I do not share every resident's lived experience. 1071 01:27:23,660 --> 01:27:29,740 So, I also appreciate hearing why this policy matters to members of our community. 1072 01:27:30,480 --> 01:27:36,920 For me, the question is not whether I support the values expressed in the proposal I do. 1073 01:27:37,340 --> 01:27:44,420 I share the belief that every resident should feel welcome, respected, and able to engage with town government without fear. 1074 01:27:45,020 --> 01:27:48,480 The question is whether an additional town policy is necessary. 1075 01:27:48,480 --> 01:27:53,960 As members of the select board, we serve as the town's executive policy making body. 1076 01:27:54,180 --> 01:28:00,380 Our responsibility is to determine whether a proposed policy is necessary to establish, 1077 01:28:00,740 --> 01:28:03,420 change, or improve how the town operates. 1078 01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:09,640 Massachusetts law, existing police department practices, and the town's current operations 1079 01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:13,080 already addressed many of the issues raised in this recommendation. 1080 01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:18,860 I understand why some residents would appreciate seeing these principles in a formal policy. 1081 01:28:19,420 --> 01:28:23,780 But it would not provide protections beyond those that already exist. 1082 01:28:24,180 --> 01:28:27,240 And it would not change how the town serves its residents. 1083 01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:34,920 And while I respect the intent behind this proposal, I am voting no from a new policy perspective. 1084 01:28:35,420 --> 01:28:39,920 I remain committed to our focus on ensuring that our actions, our services and 1085 01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:42,660 and treatment of residents reflect a welcoming community. 1086 01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:46,420 I would also like to point residents to the select boards, 1087 01:28:46,700 --> 01:28:50,320 DEIB statement that we issued in August of 2022 1088 01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:53,080 where we affirm this commitment. 1089 01:28:53,980 --> 01:28:58,060 Any implication that my decision represents me not supporting 1090 01:28:58,060 --> 01:29:03,260 or standing up for residents or not supporting the DEIB committee, 1091 01:29:03,660 --> 01:29:06,620 which I was a very active part in forming 1092 01:29:06,620 --> 01:29:09,220 is categorically false. 1093 01:29:13,030 --> 01:29:14,770 Yeah, I want to add also in the future, 1094 01:29:15,110 --> 01:29:18,510 if you have any issues regarding that welcoming policy 1095 01:29:18,510 --> 01:29:24,430 is not the criteria, the Governor-Packed Act for Protect Act, 1096 01:29:24,890 --> 01:29:27,610 if you see, please come again and we will hear 1097 01:29:27,610 --> 01:29:28,610 and we will work on that. 1098 01:29:29,130 --> 01:29:29,890 So, all are welcome. 1099 01:29:30,110 --> 01:29:32,750 As a immigrant, I support your concern 1100 01:29:32,750 --> 01:29:34,650 and everything and we want to support that too. 1101 01:29:35,470 --> 01:29:37,490 So, if you feel anytime, please come us, 1102 01:29:37,490 --> 01:29:39,910 that come join us and come here and we will support that. 1103 01:29:47,140 --> 01:29:49,920 There are no other comments. 1104 01:29:50,420 --> 01:29:51,480 I will entertain a motion. 1105 01:29:52,820 --> 01:29:55,720 I think there's my only comments or I guess questions. 1106 01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:59,120 I know that Mr. Mizikar dropped us a memo. 1107 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,980 And so there are some items in there that I thought were, I think, the actions at the end were something of interest to me. In there, he states, perhaps the board could, if desired, pass a formal resolution on equal access to municipal services, declaring shoes were his vision as an inclusive community. I would be in favor of perhaps taking that on. And if my colleagues agree, you know, certainly, 1108 01:30:29,980 --> 01:30:36,280 working on that with them, and then making sure that the item B in here directs the 1109 01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:40,360 town manager to ensure all policies and procedures of the town are fully aligned with the resolution. 1110 01:30:41,180 --> 01:30:43,760 I think that that would be an important step. If we're not going to take up 1111 01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:50,660 what the DEIB expressly recommended to us, then I find that to be a good compromise. 1112 01:30:57,950 --> 01:31:04,150 Mr. Mizukar, can you just give us a little bit more context around this formal resolution? 1113 01:31:04,150 --> 01:31:06,270 and what 1114 01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:23,040 would necessitate it, I just look at this as, you know, there are so many things where we could take a step back and almost like reconfirm and restate, like I just can't be serious what you're thinking is here. 1115 01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:27,860 Well, I think necessitate is the board's conversation that you just had when you're 1116 01:31:27,860 --> 01:31:29,040 deliberating on that matter. 1117 01:31:29,480 --> 01:31:36,660 I wouldn't state that it was necessary or unnecessary for the board to consider this 1118 01:31:36,660 --> 01:31:38,260 action and I'm not trying to avoid this. 1119 01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:42,640 I think the true intent of my memo was to lay out two things. 1120 01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:47,940 If a policy was adopted, how it would impact operations. 1121 01:31:49,400 --> 01:32:01,960 and using NADIC as a template cautioning about the differences between NADIC's formal governance and Shrewsbury's formal governance, at least what I can see through the policy. 1122 01:32:02,220 --> 01:32:14,620 As it relates to day-to-day operations and the town manager's authority, within operations, it truly is a toss-up that you all have discussed this evening. 1123 01:32:14,620 --> 01:32:16,960 I don't envy the positions that you're in. 1124 01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:21,040 Sometimes I think my job is harder, and sometimes yours is harder, and that's the balance 1125 01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:22,340 that we have in our former government. 1126 01:32:23,330 --> 01:32:24,580 You win that this evening. 1127 01:32:26,820 --> 01:32:32,400 Operationally the tie we are complying with everything within the Protect Act, within 1128 01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:40,460 one versus Commonwealth of Massachusetts, and other statutory prohibitions at the federal 1129 01:32:40,460 --> 01:32:46,280 level under United States Code that prohibits us from asking immigration as providing government 1130 01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:54,160 services. My options at the end were to provide equal perspective to the diverse opinions of 1131 01:32:54,160 --> 01:33:00,760 the board so that you had a route forward that I thought wouldn't infringe upon any aspects 1132 01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:05,640 of our governance structure. I'm happy to answer any questions on that, but this wasn't 1133 01:33:06,420 --> 01:33:12,100 I'm not through this memo advising the board that one path or the other is necessary. 1134 01:33:12,100 --> 01:33:14,100 I'm trying to lay out the implications of either. 1135 01:33:15,980 --> 01:33:16,660 That's a good question. 1136 01:33:17,580 --> 01:33:25,760 Mr. Mizzacar, so I understand the Protect Act really applies to police officers and law enforcement. 1137 01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:32,840 But what we're talking about here is municipal employees. 1138 01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:38,820 So, you know, employees that the public could come in and interact with, on a daily basis 1139 01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:46,400 asking about or, you know, changing the services provided based on someone's immigration status. 1140 01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:52,040 Are there laws at the state level that prohibit that from happening currently? 1141 01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:58,740 And is there anything like in our employee manual handbook, you know, employee code of conduct, 1142 01:33:58,740 --> 01:34:03,620 anything that prohibits municipal employees from asking about immigration status? 1143 01:34:04,380 --> 01:34:10,040 No, there's a federal prohibition of asking an immigration status for providing federal services, 1144 01:34:10,380 --> 01:34:15,260 but there's not one at the state or local level. Okay. So you're right, the Protect Act is law 1145 01:34:15,260 --> 01:34:21,280 enforcement focused. Okay. There's a provision within the Protect Act related to us notifying 1146 01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:27,960 all employees if there's a search of I-9 records that we hold, but there's no other municipal 1147 01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:29,040 employee implications. 1148 01:34:31,480 --> 01:34:37,640 I honestly, in my several decades of experience, don't understand 1149 01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:43,800 why any municipal employee would ever have to ask an employee, or excuse me, a resident 1150 01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:49,760 or anyone seeking services from the municipality of their immigration status. There's no implication 1151 01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:50,940 either way. 1152 01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:55,880 Are we aware of any situations where it has been asked? 1153 01:34:55,880 --> 01:35:03,740 No, no, I'm not I just go back to what are we trying to solve for and I'm I'm struggling with 1154 01:35:05,180 --> 01:35:07,800 You know sort of what I've heard 1155 01:35:08,700 --> 01:35:14,560 From the residents. It's it's this isn't 1156 01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:21,300 Solving anything. It's not changing anything. It's not impacting our practices. It's more just a 1157 01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:29,420 Statement again, I I reflect on the statement that we've already made in our DE. I be statement and 1158 01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:33,160 And forming the DEIB committee, I feel like we have 1159 01:35:35,210 --> 01:35:35,630 done that. 1160 01:35:36,050 --> 01:35:42,950 So I'm concerned about sort of this additional step when I'm unclear on what it accomplishes. 1161 01:35:43,690 --> 01:35:51,410 I think just respectfully that commitment was passed in 2022, we have a different board. 1162 01:35:52,110 --> 01:35:56,090 And so I think what I would ask and I think what community members would welcome is for 1163 01:35:56,090 --> 01:35:59,790 this board to reaffirm that commitment in some way, in some formal way. 1164 01:35:59,790 --> 01:36:03,610 And that's not what's before us. 1165 01:36:04,390 --> 01:36:05,730 It's all part of this conversation. 1166 01:36:06,750 --> 01:36:07,790 You've raised it. 1167 01:36:09,130 --> 01:36:12,030 And again, as a car's memorized, one of the things 1168 01:36:12,440 --> 01:36:15,930 as step that we could take is passing some sort of resolution. 1169 01:36:16,250 --> 01:36:18,190 So that's why I say that. 1170 01:36:18,650 --> 01:36:19,350 That's why I say it. 1171 01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:22,720 But I'm happy to make a motion. 1172 01:36:23,580 --> 01:36:25,020 And I'm going to make the motion in the affirmative 1173 01:36:25,020 --> 01:36:27,220 because I think it's easier to vote in the affirmative 1174 01:36:27,220 --> 01:36:29,020 than making a motion in the negative. 1175 01:36:29,020 --> 01:36:34,400 So I move that the board, I 1176 01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:46,000 move that the board accept the diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging committees recommendation to develop a welcoming community policy for the Tunisersbury. 1177 01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:47,120 Second. 1178 01:36:47,900 --> 01:36:48,960 All in favor say aye. 1179 01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:51,620 And point of order I did request for this. 1180 01:36:51,620 --> 01:36:52,100 I know you did. 1181 01:36:52,380 --> 01:36:56,360 But where we'll take the vote as we typically do. 1182 01:36:56,700 --> 01:36:58,300 So all in favor say aye. 1183 01:36:58,300 --> 01:37:01,840 I think Madam Chair, respectfully, I think it's important that members of our committee. 1184 01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:05,560 We will, I am happy to summarize it at the end. 1185 01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:09,360 I think the minutes should reflect where- 1186 01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:14,920 They will, Carlos, I will, once we vote, I will confirm how we voted. 1187 01:37:16,100 --> 01:37:17,460 All in favor say aye. 1188 01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:18,540 Aye. 1189 01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:19,720 Opposed? 1190 01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:20,160 No. 1191 01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:21,500 No. 1192 01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:22,140 No. 1193 01:37:22,780 --> 01:37:23,080 Okay. 1194 01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:26,860 Okay, so the vote does not pass, three to two. 1195 01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:30,800 In Ms. Colin and Mr. Garcia voted yes. 1196 01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:35,460 Mr. Sharma, Mr. Richards and Ms. Flynn voted no. 1197 01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:38,800 Does that satisfy your request? 1198 01:37:47,270 --> 01:37:56,090 Gender item number 11 is to review and act on a one day alcohol license application submitted by Matthew Zebert. 1199 01:37:56,990 --> 01:38:02,090 On behalf of St. Mary's parish and school grounds for St. Mary's family festival to be held. 1200 01:38:02,090 --> 01:38:07,670 September 17th, 2026, through September 21st, 2026. 1201 01:38:09,590 --> 01:38:11,590 Second, all in favor say aye. 1202 01:38:11,930 --> 01:38:12,110 Aye. 1203 01:38:12,710 --> 01:38:13,190 Opposed? 1204 01:38:13,530 --> 01:38:20,290 Motion passes, and agenda item number 12 is to review an act to appoint precinct officers. 1205 01:38:20,610 --> 01:38:25,570 Town clerk Sharon Thomas has prepared a list of the recommended appointments for precinct officers. 1206 01:38:26,370 --> 01:38:29,570 All of the precinct officers are reappointments, except for three new members. 1207 01:38:29,570 --> 01:38:34,510 and this is for a one-year term expiring on August 31st, 2027. 1208 01:38:35,650 --> 01:38:36,450 Those are approval. 1209 01:38:36,830 --> 01:38:37,070 Second. 1210 01:38:37,730 --> 01:38:38,630 All in favor say aye. 1211 01:38:38,970 --> 01:38:39,130 Aye. 1212 01:38:40,010 --> 01:38:40,830 All good members. 1213 01:38:41,070 --> 01:38:44,730 I have the copy here if you can make sign before you all leave today. 1214 01:38:44,990 --> 01:38:45,170 Please. 1215 01:38:45,690 --> 01:38:46,150 Absolutely. 1216 01:38:46,470 --> 01:38:46,630 Thank you. 1217 01:38:47,010 --> 01:38:48,230 Motion passes. 1218 01:38:50,690 --> 01:38:52,230 Next is correspondence. 1219 01:38:53,310 --> 01:38:57,410 So as you will see from the agenda, there's a lot of correspondence. 1220 01:38:57,490 --> 01:38:59,670 I'm not going to list each one. 1221 01:38:59,670 --> 01:39:28,650 But items 13 through 24 are 22 emails that we received related to the public hearing that we had this evening regarding the request to honor Don Shannon so noted and items 35 through 40 are six emails supporting the welcoming community statement all in favor of the welcoming community statement. 1222 01:39:28,650 --> 01:39:35,270 and also noted, and if there is no other business before the board, I will entertain a motion to adjourn. 1223 01:39:35,550 --> 01:39:35,850 So moved. 1224 01:39:36,150 --> 01:39:37,610 Second, all in favor say aye. 1225 01:39:37,950 --> 01:39:38,110 Aye. 1226 01:39:38,990 --> 01:39:39,210 Opposed? 1227 01:39:39,770 --> 01:39:40,250 Passes? 1228 01:39:41,390 --> 01:39:42,510 That concludes our meeting. 1229 01:39:42,750 --> 01:39:43,470 Thank you and good evening.