[3:34] do the uh municipal authority first, but
[3:36] since we have an employment, I'm going
[3:37] to go ahead and do
[3:40] the council meeting first, and we'll
[3:41] reach back and do the municipal, Jay, if
[3:43] you don't mind. So, um
[3:46] we're going to go ahead and call the
[3:46] meeting to order. Can we have a roll
[3:48] call, please, Jay?
[3:49] >> Chris Conner? Daniel Miller?
[3:51] >> Here.
[3:52] Larry Church? Mr. Scott Rossman?
[3:54] >> Here.
[3:54] >> Mr. Hanson?
[3:55] >> Here.
[3:57] >> Mr. Jeff Mann?
[3:57] >> Here.
[3:58] >> Mr. John Kramer?
[3:59] >> Here.
[4:00] >> Mr. Corey Wreck?
[4:01] >> Here.
[4:02] >> All right, moving on to appointments.
[4:05] Consideration and possible action to
[4:07] approve the mayoral appointment of Mark
[4:09] Childers as Ward 2 City Council member
[4:12] to replace Jolene Doucet who resigned.
[4:15] Just to give you guys a little bit of
[4:16] background, I had him give me a little
[4:17] bit of a bio so you guys know a little
[4:19] bit about Mark. Um,
[4:21] he uh
[4:22] Mark and his family have lived here for
[4:23] 35 years here in Seminole
[4:26] with his wife Karen.
[4:27] They have two children, both graduated
[4:29] from Seminole High School, Nathan and
[4:31] Caitlin.
[4:32] Mark holds a Bachelor of Science from
[4:35] ECU
[4:36] with graduate work at OU Health Science
[4:38] which is not completed yet. He's still
[4:40] going to school.
[4:42] It's amazing.
[4:43] All right. And
[4:44] he also worked for the Oklahoma State
[4:46] Department of Health for 33 years
[4:47] working as working as a public health It
[4:50] was inspector, correct?
[4:52] Specialist and then environmental health
[4:53] specialist in consumer health and
[4:56] safety.
[4:58] He currently owns a private consulting
[4:59] business that goes along those lines.
[5:02] He is a member of our wellness center
[5:04] board.
[5:06] And this is just a reminder for everyone
[5:08] that's here. He is just finishing out
[5:10] the term. So if you want to stay on and
[5:14] join us forever, you're going to have to
[5:15] refile in December. So just so you know.
[5:18] So
[5:20] I've known Mark for quite some time,
[5:22] especially on the wellness center board.
[5:24] He's been a great asset to the wellness
[5:26] center board
[5:27] being a health facility with a degree in
[5:29] that area. It's really helpful. So
[5:33] I'm not sure whose voice that is.
[5:35] >> It's not a French horn. That's a closed
[5:37] door.
[5:38] >> Okay.
[5:38] >> [laughter]
[5:38] >> Just making sure.
[5:40] But uh
[5:42] I had I had a couple long conversations
[5:44] with Mark and made sure that he was
[5:46] willing to serve and willing to speak
[5:49] your mind and make sure that you do
[5:50] what's best for [music] Seminole, not
[5:52] just provide us with a person in the
[5:54] chair. So, um and I appreciate that. Uh
[5:57] I told him I said, "You'll hit some
[5:58] rough spots sometimes when you have to
[6:00] vote your heart and it may not be what
[6:02] everybody else wants you to do." So,
[6:04] that's just part of it. So, um that
[6:07] would be my appointing and of course you
[6:09] guys have to
[6:11] uh I need a motion and a second to and a
[6:13] vote to approve him before we can have
[6:15] him.
[6:16] He's already set his cup and his phone
[6:17] down up here, so
[6:19] if you guys don't approve him, I'm
[6:21] throwing him back.
[6:22] So.
[6:23] >> Second.
[6:24] >> Can we have a roll call, please, Jay?
[6:27] >> Dana Miller?
[6:28] >> Yes.
[6:29] >> Scott Ross?
[6:30] >> Yes.
[6:31] >> Chris Anthony?
[6:31] >> Yes.
[6:33] >> Jeff Mandell?
[6:34] >> Yes, sir.
[6:35] >> John Craig?
[6:35] >> Yes.
[6:36] >> Luis Perez?
[6:37] >> All right.
[6:38] Mark, if you will, we're going to let
[6:40] Brad do your oath of office before you
[6:42] have a seat.
[6:44] I need your signature in blood.
[6:49] » Repeat after me.
[6:51] I, state your name,
[6:53] >> Mark Gordon,
[6:53] >> do solemnly swear
[6:56] >> that I will faithfully execute
[6:59] >> the office of Seminole City Council
[7:03] >> as well as supporting
[7:06] >> the Seminole Municipal Authority
[7:09] >> the Seminole Tourist
[7:12] >> the Seminole Nation Authority
[7:14] >> the Seminole Housing
[7:17] >> and to the best of my ability
[7:20] >> preserve, protect, and defend
[7:23] >> the Constitution of the United States
[7:26] >> the Constitution of the State of
[7:29] Oklahoma
[7:29] >> and charter of the City of Seminole OK.
[7:34] >> And may God bless this city.
[7:40] » There you go.
[7:40] >> Here you go. Give this to the guy.
[7:42] >> Hurry up.
[7:43] before he changes his mind.
[7:45] >> [laughter]
[7:48] » Now, run with it.
[7:59] All right.
[8:01] Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. All
[8:03] right, we're going to move on to bids
[8:04] under item one.
[8:06] Consideration and possible action to
[8:07] approve the purchase of a 60-ft LED
[8:10] Christmas tree and accessories from
[8:12] Living Light Shows at a cost of $93,480
[8:17] plus enrollment in the annual seasonal
[8:19] maintenance support and light exchange
[8:22] program for $8,780
[8:25] for a total of $102,260.
[8:31] So, I've got a
[8:34] presentation if you care to see it. So,
[8:36] >> Let's go ahead.
[8:37] >> Uh this is this is what we had been
[8:39] discussing in the public hearings and in
[8:42] the budget sessions and
[8:45] uh getting to the Christmas tree. The
[8:47] reason for the special meeting was to
[8:49] try to get it ordered in time for us to
[8:53] come in and get it installed for the
[8:56] next Snowman Wonderland.
[9:01] This is what we're talking about. Some
[9:03] of these will vary in size. Ours roughly
[9:06] is
[9:07] double that, I think. That's a 15-ft
[9:11] uh streetlight.
[9:15] Yeah, so that ours will be twice that
[9:17] tall.
[9:33] » [music]
[9:35] >> And that is that sound system is within
[9:39] the tree. So, what you're hearing is not
[9:41] background music, that's actually coming
[9:43] from the judge.
[9:50] And again, this is a smaller tree, but
[9:53] you get the idea.
[9:55] >> Smaller than ours?
[9:57] >> Okay.
[10:03] » What is the size of the
[10:08] » 65?
[10:10] That's what I'm thinking is 65.
[10:18] » Now for the new tree we do
[11:02] » There's the
[11:04] Well, that just shows the crowd around
[11:07] a similar tree.
[11:11] Oh,
[11:12] I didn't know that one had a video on
[11:13] it.
[11:15] Oh, it's a drone.
[11:19] » Did Shawn do this?
[11:20] >> Shawn put all this together. He's a
[11:22] master.
[11:52] » So, uh
[11:53] you'll recall
[11:55] one of the things that kind of prompted
[11:57] what what we were discussing was the
[11:59] fact that according to our Placer AI
[12:03] phone tracking systems,
[12:05] uh we're able to track different events,
[12:08] or were able. We don't We haven't
[12:10] renewed that contract, but we were able
[12:13] to track previous events.
[12:16] And uh
[12:17] everything from Made in Oklahoma to
[12:21] over the baseball tournaments and things
[12:23] like that. And Snowman Wonderland
[12:26] brought approximately 55,000 visitors to
[12:30] Seminole.
[12:31] There was a little bit of debate. We
[12:33] couldn't find it in our records. We
[12:35] think that 55,000 was actually
[12:38] non-resident visitors, but
[12:41] uh
[12:42] let's just say 55 total for now.
[12:46] According to the Department of Tourism,
[12:49] the day trip tourists will spend between
[12:52] 50 and 250,000
[12:55] $250 each. So, if we just take out our
[13:00] residents, let's just say we drop 55,000
[13:03] to 45,000,
[13:05] our day trip tourists will spend on the
[13:07] low end of $50, that comes out to $2.2
[13:11] million
[13:12] in economic impact to our community.
[13:16] So, that was one of the driving factors.
[13:19] The original Christmas tree that we have
[13:21] has been built over the last 15 or so
[13:24] years,
[13:25] and it's come to the end of its useful
[13:28] life. Our plan is to basically take
[13:31] about half of it and maybe move it up to
[13:34] where the dancing lights were.
[13:37] Uh so
[13:38] in front of the
[13:41] wellness center.
[13:42] Uh but we're not going to try to
[13:45] put it put it back together. We're
[13:47] afraid at some point it it's going to be
[13:50] a problem.
[13:51] Uh
[13:52] and the dancing lights are no longer
[13:54] viable. So we don't have the the
[13:56] flashing and the dancing music and and
[14:00] the fun things that were such a big
[14:01] attraction to our snowman event.
[14:05] Obviously, we need the tourism and the
[14:09] beauty of the of the snowman wonderland
[14:11] is it's a long-term event. So it lasts
[14:13] well over 30
[14:16] 38 days, Bryant, somewhere in there, 40
[14:18] days.
[14:19] So it's a it's a really good generator
[14:23] for us.
[14:26] We don't want this to get stagnant. We
[14:28] want to keep the event fresh and
[14:30] exciting and we you know, it's not one
[14:33] of those things that you can come this
[14:35] year and you don't need to come back
[14:37] because it's all the same. Uh this is
[14:39] going to really freshen it up and will
[14:42] continue to be refreshed because
[14:45] they will reprogram each year.
[14:48] And so that the the dancing will vary,
[14:51] the music will vary, so
[14:53] uh
[14:55] it it has been one of if not the most
[14:58] incredible morale bo- booster for our
[15:01] community
[15:02] having the snowman wonderland. It's just
[15:05] uh it brightens everything,
[15:08] especially during that time of year.
[15:10] It's a great event. And it's recognized
[15:12] statewide, so
[15:15] it's it's something that builds
[15:16] credibility for us.
[15:19] Our restaurants love the boost and we
[15:22] continue to hear that we need more
[15:24] restaurants, right? Everybody's heard
[15:26] that from one time or the other. This
[15:28] kind of event
[15:30] is important to keep our existing
[15:33] restaurants healthy, but also keep
[15:35] others looking at us.
[15:37] So,
[15:40] one of the things that I I always brag
[15:43] about you guys is that you're you're
[15:45] fantastic at trying to balance
[15:48] uh our budgets with the
[15:50] emergency services. We put streets and
[15:53] water and and
[15:55] parks, you name it.
[15:58] Code enforcement has has been a huge
[16:00] investment that you've made, but quality
[16:03] of life is always going to be a piece of
[16:06] that and this, I believe, is one of the
[16:08] quality of life issues.
[16:16] Did I miss my
[16:22] Stand by. We got a technical glitch that
[16:25] should be solved momentarily.
[16:40] Okay. Do you remember the factors?
[16:44] The slides that we Okay. That was it?
[16:48] All right.
[16:54] Okay. Do you have any questions?
[16:55] >> I do.
[16:56] Couple of questions.
[16:58] I know this has already been allocated
[16:59] here and
[17:01] >> Yes, sir. That's It has been.
[17:03] >> I just have a couple of questions. I was
[17:05] reading through the proposal and we only
[17:07] got half of the proposal. It's printed
[17:08] every other
[17:09] >> piece of paper page.
[17:12] » Page 10, 12, 14, 16.
[17:15] Um
[17:16] just one of the things that I have
[17:18] actually got several and stuff. Number
[17:20] one
[17:20] it says engineer and install a suitable
[17:23] base for the anchor and tree or drum
[17:25] work for this tree.
[17:26] >> No.
[17:27] >> So, what happens is that an extra
[17:29] expense?
[17:29] >> No, the the drum will be retired. It is
[17:33] >> But, for the base for this tree, is that
[17:34] another expense?
[17:36] That's just part of the deal.
[17:37] >> No, the
[17:39] what they're sending us is the plates,
[17:41] our expense.
[17:42] >> not sending us the
[17:43] Okay.
[17:43] >> They send everything. We will put the
[17:45] plates down to their specs.
[17:47] >> The way I read it is we had to do that.
[17:49] I thought,
[17:50] "Well, who's going to do that?"
[17:51] And all the power's there, all the Cat
[17:53] 5, everything is there.
[17:55] Cat 6, I guess it is now.
[17:57] Power's there.
[17:59] They are sending Cat 6. Oh, they are.
[18:02] Oh, very cool. Very cool.
[18:04] Um
[18:05] And they say that we have to do
[18:06] bulb changes and when when's going to
[18:08] win and who's going to do that?
[18:10] >> That's part of the plan.
[18:11] >> That's part of the
[18:12] They don't know they have to do We have
[18:13] to do that and then we have to send at
[18:15] the end of the day.
[18:15] >> That's correct.
[18:16] If there's issue with the elements
[18:22] » We just do that when we set it up and
[18:23] make sure everything's running okay.
[18:27] They will replace them.
[18:28] >> That's the notes.
[18:29] >> Okay, so we have to do that. So, Baker's
[18:31] got to find
[18:32] five guys to
[18:34] I'm not I'm not saying he shouldn't, I'm
[18:35] just saying whatever it is.
[18:37] >> What he covers is the parts
[18:39] >> has to do the labor
[18:41] All that, okay.
[18:42] Another question I have
[18:43] is uh
[18:45] is uh
[18:48] All the infrastructure's there, you said
[18:50] that the power's there and they're doing the Cat 6. So, we don't
[18:53] have to do worry about that.
[18:54] >> Cat 6 is basically various modules that
[18:56] are linked together.
[18:59] >> Okay, so my my concerns were were
[19:01] that we're going to get into having to
[19:03] do some extra
[19:05] stuff.
[19:06] >> There There's options if you were to
[19:07] expand it.
[19:11] » Right. There's it's around the palm,
[19:12] yeah.
[19:14] Got you.
[19:19] Then
[19:20] So, one more question and then I'll
[19:22] leave the floor to somebody else.
[19:24] Um
[19:25] So, is it Is the tree that's just going
[19:27] to look ugly during the day and it's
[19:29] just going to have the pole through the
[19:30] middle of it, strands hanging down, and
[19:32] then
[19:33] at night it's going to look good?
[19:35] >> It'll have to look better. I It's bright
[19:36] enough to
[19:39] I don't know if you can
[19:41] >> I've seen them forever, you know, the
[19:42] pole with the
[19:44] strands hanging down.
[19:45] I don't know.
[19:46] Yeah, that's just my preference.
[19:47] >> It's just strands of LED
[19:50] at night
[19:51] because it gets dark at
[19:53] So,
[19:54] you know, so
[19:55] >> Okay, that's that's my questions. Thank
[19:56] you. Appreciate it.
[19:58] >> I have one question about the power. I
[20:01] know we've always had issues out there
[20:02] with the power going on and off at the I
[20:04] know we fixed a lot of that. What do
[20:06] they provide you with as far as search
[20:08] protection? This is a lot of lights and
[20:09] a lot of stuff.
[20:11] >> I haven't seen anything about search
[20:13] protection.
[20:18] » Yeah, I mean, that would be
[20:20] It would be
[20:22] a a sad thing to have this installed for
[20:24] 2 days
[20:25] and some power glitch cause this whole
[20:27] Christmas tree full of lights that we're
[20:29] trying to display go out. So,
[20:31] um I would just ask that if we do this,
[20:33] I someone needs to heavily research that
[20:36] to make sure that won't happen.
[20:39] Cuz
[20:40] Um the other thing is on the maintenance
[20:42] part, I they do
[20:44] a whole new display every year, new
[20:47] songs, and new videos stuff.
[20:49] Does that allow any room for us to
[20:51] customize anything? Can we put our own
[20:54] Seminole wishes you have What can we do
[20:56] that?
[20:57] >> That's part of the package. Uh
[20:59] cost
[21:00] is
[21:02] having the programming and the music and
[21:03] the songs and the
[21:24] » So
[21:25] >> Can you do that on a Can you update that
[21:27] on a Not that we would, but can you
[21:29] update it on a daily basis? For
[21:30] instance, when you do Santa Paws night
[21:33] if you could update it, say welcome to
[21:35] Santa Paws night, put a dog on it or something like that
[21:38] to kind of create some
[21:40] stuff like that. Can you do that? Or is
[21:42] it just something once a year they allow
[21:43] you to do?
[21:45] >> Once a year.
[21:46] >> Okay.
[21:50] Oh, got you.
[21:53] I was just curious because that'd be
[21:55] really cool to
[21:56] make that specific to a night,
[21:58] especially for all these people that are
[21:59] spending their time out there.
[22:02] Um and the firework night that has
[22:04] always been done
[22:05] >> [clears throat]
[22:05] >> display some fireworks inside there or
[22:07] something like that. Just curious if we
[22:08] could do that and get our money's worth
[22:10] out of it.
[22:11] >> I would recommend that we have a full
[22:13] council vote before we put your Rudolph
[22:16] karaoke on there.
[22:18] >> Yeah, that's not happening.
[22:21] >> I mean, a lot of them are pushing
[22:23] >> [laughter]
[22:23] >> So, um
[22:25] All right, Corey, let me pick on that.
[22:27] So, I I read that they don't come and
[22:29] put it up. We have to put it We have to
[22:30] assemble it, right?
[22:32] We're confident we can do that.
[22:34] >> That won't be a problem.
[22:35] >> problems. I mean
[22:36] I'm not saying the guys are can't do it
[22:38] that, but they're not professional 60-ft
[22:40] tree assemblers.
[22:41] >> Yeah, um
[22:44] I don't know. I mean, I'm just saying
[22:45] I'm assuming you guys can do it. I was
[22:46] just thinking
[22:47] >> The answer is yes.
[22:48] >> [laughter]
[22:49] >> My guys are so ecstatic to get rid of
[22:53] that bulky tree.
[22:55] >> right?
[22:55] >> Oh my gosh.
[22:56] >> I'm just curious because I think Yeah,
[22:57] that's a that's got to be
[22:59] a job. man.
[23:01] >> Yeah.
[23:02] >> It is. Hey, what was the cost
[23:05] if I wish Sharon was here cuz she
[23:06] probably know from a community
[23:07] development standpoint. What was the
[23:09] cost of that what we had in front of the
[23:11] wellness center all those years?
[23:13] >> In front of you?
[23:14] >> Like the lights, that whole display that
[23:16] >> The The dancing lights?
[23:17] >> Yeah, how much You remember how much
[23:19] that was?
[23:19] >> I don't.
[23:20] >> I was just curious cuz I know it wasn't
[23:22] >> We added to it year after year, so it
[23:24] built
[23:26] many many times over and the same thing
[23:28] is true of the Christmas tree in the
[23:31] ground.
[23:31] >> Yeah.
[23:32] >> Uh we would buy 2-ft sections and some
[23:35] years we'd buy 4 ft and it just kind of
[23:37] grew into what we have now.
[23:39] >> I was just curious in terms of the cost
[23:41] what it related as far as
[23:43] the cost of this one.
[23:44] >> Yeah.
[23:45] >> So
[23:48] » I was just curious. I know I think
[23:49] community development did all that that
[23:51] year, did they not?
[23:52] >> Uh well, again, I think we started with
[23:55] like $16,000
[23:57] and then we we'd buy 2,500
[24:00] at different times.
[24:02] And the same is true of the tree. I
[24:04] think we spent the original
[24:06] 2,000
[24:08] what?
[24:09] 10? 12?
[24:11] 2012, I think the original was 16,000,
[24:14] the initial investment.
[24:16] And then
[24:18] we grew it
[24:19] every year about that same amount.
[24:23] » Okay.
[24:27] » Go ahead, Dan.
[24:28] >> So the um
[24:29] What is the life expectancy of the
[24:31] lights?
[24:32] >> Good question.
[24:34] I haven't seen the initial warranty of the lights
[24:49] was 5 years last
[24:53] The initial warranty was 1 year.
[24:56] You don't have to do that.
[24:59] Okay.
[25:06] » I I
[25:08] Yeah. I'd like I'd like to give you a
[25:10] little more directed
[25:12] answer to kind of quantify how the
[25:15] useful life
[25:16] I think the structure itself is going to
[25:19] be a 20-year
[25:21] duration. But, the strands of the LED
[25:24] lights, what we've experienced in our
[25:26] other displays, uh the LED is much
[25:30] longer lasting than the incandescent.
[25:32] And so, we're probably getting uh maybe
[25:35] 6 or 7 years out of the LED.
[25:38] So, in 6 or 7 years, we would probably
[25:41] be replacing the light strands.
[25:43] Uh
[25:44] and I'm assuming that under our annual
[25:47] thing, that will will be replaced by
[25:50] them.
[25:56] Yeah.
[25:58] I think a lot of that probably has to do
[25:59] with where you are as well as far as
[26:01] environment.
[26:02] And the condition of what happens that
[26:04] year. Obviously, if you have
[26:05] >> Yep.
[26:06] >> tons of
[26:07] rain or snow or what have you, I think
[26:10] that maybe
[26:11] that may have a lot to do with that.
[26:13] Probably can't get a real clear answer,
[26:14] but
[26:15] I mean, for the lights I put in my
[26:17] house, they've been last
[26:19] 2 years, but that's cuz I change them
[26:20] every 2 years it felt like. So, I can't
[26:22] give you an answer on that either, but
[26:24] uh
[26:25] I do like the LEDs.
[26:28] Obviously.
[26:29] So.
[26:31] >> Chris, I'm sorry.
[26:32] Danny. Go ahead. I'm sorry.
[26:34] >> Danny, you've had your turn. Hold on.
[26:35] >> want to make you mad.
[26:36] >> I'm just kidding.
[26:37] >> Are there any uh
[26:39] There I'm I'm disappointed that there
[26:41] wasn't a section on the agenda today for
[26:44] the audience to ask us questions about
[26:47] this or ask more questions about this.
[26:49] Um I hope that gets resolved
[26:51] um next time.
[26:53] Because there has been some because of
[26:55] the article in the newspaper, I think
[26:57] spurred some folks um that I've seen
[26:59] online to um
[27:02] to make comments that they weren't happy
[27:04] about this.
[27:05] Um so, I I really do appreciate the spillover effect that you had
[27:11] mentioned
[27:12] where this is going to impact hopefully
[27:18] our um
[27:20] economy.
[27:20] >> Mhm.
[27:21] >> Right? And um
[27:23] not only boost the the sales tax
[27:27] hopefully in in the city of Seminole,
[27:29] but also the morale as well, right? So,
[27:32] I appreciate you saying that. Um but I
[27:34] do however just want to mention again
[27:36] that the the the comment period or
[27:39] comment section, I really felt that
[27:41] needed to be here just in case. I
[27:42] personally haven't heard from anyone um
[27:45] that they were displeased about this or didn't want it. But, I think the
[27:48] article in the paper um mentioned it in on the front page,
[27:54] and I think some folks I think it's real
[27:56] easy to pull out one thing out of our
[27:58] entire budget and have a open discussion
[28:01] about whether or not it's frivolous or
[28:03] whether or not we needed it. But, I
[28:05] think in the context of the spillover
[28:07] effect, that's kind of what's selling me
[28:09] on it is that hopefully it brings more
[28:11] people to Ward 1. Hopefully, it brings
[28:13] more people to the to the city and um
[28:16] has positive impact on our citizens.
[28:19] That's all I have.
[28:20] >> Do you have another question?
[28:21] >> I just have I do, and I'm sorry I didn't
[28:23] mean to cut you off there. I apologize.
[28:25] Um
[28:27] I I just have a question. Where is it
[28:29] stored? How is it stored?
[28:31] Who stores it? I mean, that's those are
[28:33] my questions cuz I you know, you don't
[28:34] have to
[28:35] throw it into a bonfire.
[28:37] It's a lot of money. That's why I'm just
[28:38] >> Yeah. So, we take great lengths to
[28:42] protect the these pieces and
[28:47] if if at all possible, I would prefer to
[28:50] get offline because if I tell you where
[28:52] they're at,
[28:54] that exposes them to destruction.
[28:57] >> Yeah, I don't want to look at that.
[28:58] >> So, we can How about we get offline and
[29:01] I can tell you
[29:02] the big plan of how we plan on putting
[29:04] >> Yeah, I don't want to you know, I don't
[29:06] want to do that for sure. Somebody have
[29:07] a big Christmas tree in the front yard.
[29:08] So,
[29:10] I don't want to do that for sure.
[29:11] So, I just Yeah, I just I was just
[29:13] curious. That's just for my just
[29:15] want to
[29:19] » Do you all have any other questions?
[29:23] Mark's asking me questions cuz he wasn't
[29:25] in our budget talks and didn't hear all
[29:27] that. So, just so you guys are aware,
[29:29] but
[29:33] » Pretty much the first time I'm hearing about it.
[29:39] So, this is replacing the old
[29:41] This is nothing new.
[29:43] This is replacing the old tree. Okay.
[29:47] >> Yes, sir. It It is new. It is new. It's
[29:50] a It's a completely different setup,
[29:52] which, frankly,
[29:55] I don't remember exactly how long it
[29:57] took my crews to erect that
[30:01] big tree,
[30:02] but this is going to alleviate a lot of
[30:05] their issues. We've got the skylift, so
[30:08] that's not the issue.
[30:10] But, yes, it is new and it is a
[30:11] replacement.
[30:15] » Well,
[30:18] It's It's ex- Oh, sorry. I thought you
[30:20] were done.
[30:22] I'm a little bit with you on this.
[30:24] You know, I had one comment on the way
[30:26] down here,
[30:28] which was negative.
[30:31] I don't know. I guess I assumed there
[30:32] must have been an article in the paper
[30:34] today as you were referring to that.
[30:36] You know,
[30:38] I'm all for
[30:40] Snowman Wonderland up there. It's It's
[30:43] asset to the community, for sure.
[30:46] As you said, I'm sure it's probably an
[30:48] economic boost.
[30:50] So.
[30:53] Having just sort of had this, being my
[30:56] first night as a council member.
[30:58] Uh.
[31:02] I guess I just have a procedural
[31:04] question. Um.
[31:06] Can I abstain?
[31:08] >> [laughter]
[31:17] » Point of information.
[31:18] >> Go ahead, Danny.
[31:18] >> So, um, Steve, did you say earlier that
[31:21] the old tree will still be put up
[31:23] though, correct?
[31:24] >> Portion of it. Portion of it, yes. Uh,
[31:27] we're not going to try to to do the the
[31:30] whole thing. And
[31:31] the drum in particular has been
[31:35] damaged in over the many years that we've had it up. So,
[31:40] that for sure is going to be retired,
[31:42] but the tree itself uh
[31:45] we've talked a little bit internally
[31:47] about which pieces could be saved.
[31:50] I think you'll probably end up with
[31:52] maybe 18 ft, somewhere in that range,
[31:56] that would fit in front of the wellness
[31:58] center.
[32:00] Uh, it won't be nearly as spectacular as
[32:02] what it was on the island.
[32:05] Uh,
[32:05] but yes, we're going to try to salvage
[32:07] what we can.
[32:09] >> If there if there is an opportunity, I
[32:12] would like to see maybe it go up in
[32:13] another park.
[32:15] Somewhere if that's possible.
[32:17] Just something to think about. I think
[32:19] it would be nice to see in the municipal
[32:21] park or
[32:22] Chase Park.
[32:24] >> Downtown.
[32:26] Yeah.
[32:27] >> Now, wherever we put it, it needs to be
[32:29] under camera surveillance. Part of what
[32:31] we're talking about doing now is
[32:33] actually having it alarmed on the
[32:35] island, so that when the when someone
[32:38] crosses a certain barrier, especially
[32:40] after the event has shut down, that
[32:44] there's a
[32:45] audible alarm, alarm goes to the police
[32:47] department, and lights come on and
[32:50] flash.
[32:52] >> I didn't even think about that. That's a very sneaky Yeah, you got to do
[32:56] that. So, um I will say if you don't
[32:59] find a place for the drone, that Dale
[33:01] and Marcy and I will put a demitween our
[33:03] yards.
[33:03] >> Oh.
[33:04] >> And we'll put lights on it. So, I'm just
[33:06] kidding.
[33:07] >> [laughter]
[33:08] >> Yeah. Oh, yeah.
[33:10] >> It's very light. It's about a 3/4-in
[33:12] steel.
[33:14] It's Yeah.
[33:15] It's massive.
[33:19] » Mhm.
[33:20] Any other questions you guys have?
[33:24] >> I have one other comment that if we
[33:26] could look into this, I think it would
[33:28] be appropriate
[33:30] to see as much as Neil Craig put into
[33:32] this Snowman Wonderland, I think it
[33:34] would be very
[33:35] honorable to put an in honor of Neil as
[33:38] a purchase of that tree at the bottom of
[33:40] that.
[33:41] >> Cool.
[33:41] >> I think it's just respectable for what
[33:43] he did. Um he was there every night for
[33:45] every year for very long time, as much
[33:47] as his health allowed.
[33:49] So,
[33:50] if you guys could also do that, I think
[33:52] that's just I think it's just
[33:54] worthy to do that for him and his
[33:56] family. So,
[33:57] if that's a possibility, I would like to
[33:58] see that.
[34:00] So.
[34:05] » Great idea. All right.
[34:07] >> Anybody else?
[34:10] >> Okay.
[34:12] Go ahead.
[34:16] » It's going to save you a lot of
[34:17] manpower.
[34:27] » Okay.
[34:28] I'll just need a motion and a second, we
[34:31] can vote.
[34:32] >> Motion to approve?
[34:36] » Second.
[34:38] » Roll call, please. Jay?
[34:41] >> Dana Miller?
[34:42] >> Yes.
[34:43] >> Scott Ross?
[34:44] >> Yes.
[34:45] >> Miss Hanson?
[34:46] >> Yes.
[34:46] >> Mark Childers?
[34:47] >> Yes.
[34:49] >> Jeff Mann?
[34:51] >> Yes.
[34:52] >> Don Greiner?
[34:53] >> Yes.
[34:54] >> Arthur Passos?
[34:56] >> All right. Moving on to item two,
[34:59] consideration and possible action to
[35:01] approve the state bid price of
[35:02] $23,125.72
[35:06] from Great Plains Shawnee for the
[35:08] purchase of a Kubota lawn mower and
[35:10] approved capital improvement project for
[35:12] fiscal year 2026 to 2027.
[35:16] Um
[35:17] I know we had some questions on this
[35:19] online as well, but can you tell us
[35:21] uh I know we had a mower that was either
[35:23] down or not in service, I think, or at
[35:26] least old to the point where we need
[35:29] these mowers. I just wonder
[35:31] if this if you could just kind of share
[35:33] what situation this puts us in. I mean,
[35:35] obviously it puts us in a better
[35:36] situation, but does it replace an old
[35:37] one? Does it replace a couple that were
[35:40] in terrible condition? What are we What
[35:42] are we doing with this one?
[35:44] >> Yeah. So, obviously we we roll through
[35:47] these mowers. I mean, we
[35:50] Yeah, we put the work on them.
[35:52] Uh there are two mowers. One we expect
[35:56] it's not
[35:58] it's okay, but it's not great. Our
[36:00] expectation is to move that to the lake,
[36:03] and this one will replace the park.
[36:05] >> Okay.
[36:06] >> Yeah.
[36:08] And he does mow a lot of the lake.
[36:10] >> Yes.
[36:11] >> If you've not been out there, there's a
[36:12] lot to mow out there.
[36:14] So.
[36:16] >> Motion to approve?
[36:17] >> Second.
[36:18] >> Roll call, please. Jay?
[36:20] >> Dana Miller?
[36:21] >> Yes.
[36:22] >> Scott Ross?
[36:22] >> Yes.
[36:23] >> Miss Hanson?
[36:24] >> Yes.
[36:24] >> Mark Childers?
[36:25] >> Yes.
[36:26] >> Jeff Mann?
[36:27] >> Yes.
[36:27] >> Don Greiner?
[36:28] >> Yes.
[36:28] >> Arthur Passos?
[36:29] >> Okay. And that's all the items we have
[36:31] for the Seminole City Council. We still
[36:32] have one more meeting, but I wanted to
[36:33] do that one first just to get Mark
[36:35] appointed and and then here. So, um I
[36:38] need a motion for adjournment for the
[36:39] Seminole City Council portion.
[36:41] >> Motion to adjourn.
[36:42] >> All in favor?
[36:43] >> Aye.
[36:44] >> Any opposed, like sign. Okay.
[36:47] We're going to move on to the Seminole
[36:49] Municipal Authority.
[36:50] And can we have a roll call for this
[36:52] one, please, Jackie?
[36:53] >> Dana Miller?
[36:54] >> Here.
[36:55] >> Larry Church?
[36:56] >> Present.
[36:57] >> Here.
[36:58] >> Robert Cramer?
[36:58] >> Here.
[36:59] >> Mark Shaver?
[37:00] >> Here.
[37:01] >> Jeff Hance?
[37:01] >> Here.
[37:02] >> Scott Ross?
[37:03] >> Here.
[37:03] >> Ray Conner?
[37:04] >> Corey Craig?
[37:05] >> Here.
[37:06] >> Okay. Under item or approvals and
[37:08] acceptances under bids, consideration
[37:11] and possible action to approve the bid
[37:13] of $3,708,930
[37:17] from Mock Energy LLC for the
[37:19] Presidential Disaster Relief Water
[37:21] System Improvements Project.
[37:24] Mr. Steve, can you elaborate on this so
[37:26] >> Sure. Yeah, let me bring you back up to
[37:28] speed. So,
[37:30] uh
[37:31] every year we we get to sit down with
[37:33] our congressional staff and and
[37:36] Stephanie Bice in particular has been
[37:38] extremely helpful for us and
[37:41] uh
[37:41] the question that they asked us maybe 2
[37:44] years ago was what are the
[37:46] biggest things facing you outside of our
[37:48] sewer plant.
[37:50] One of them was our 16-in huge water
[37:53] main that spans from Walmart to
[37:56] essentially the hospital and even beyond
[37:59] that. But, that was the biggest piece.
[38:02] I don't know how many calls we make. You
[38:04] probably remember a bunch, uh Scott,
[38:08] that that
[38:09] when that line ruptures, it's a problem.
[38:12] Uh big problem. And it often can take
[38:15] out full neighborhoods that we've got.
[38:17] Um
[38:18] so,
[38:20] uh we asked them and they they ended up
[38:22] making an appropriation. So, this is
[38:24] grant dollars that we're we're receiving
[38:27] from the federal government. And the
[38:29] plan is to replace that 16-in main from
[38:32] Walmart to the hospital.
[38:35] If if we can stretch it, it may go
[38:38] beyond that. Mock Energy
[38:41] we had a really nice experience with
[38:43] them and when they tied into our brand
[38:45] new water tower.
[38:47] They're not responsible for building the
[38:49] water tower, but they are responsible
[38:52] for extending the line to the water
[38:55] tower.
[38:56] And we we had really good
[38:59] experience with them. So,
[39:02] when we had 12 was it 12 bids?
[39:05] 12 bidders bid this project. We were
[39:08] shocked and so were the engineers. It
[39:12] looks like the companies are beginning
[39:14] to become a little more hungry. Now that
[39:16] the ARPA money is kind of drying up. So,
[39:20] we had 12 bids. This this is the low bid
[39:23] and what and they won it. And we were
[39:25] really excited that they did. So,
[39:28] we would recommend that you approve
[39:29] this.
[39:32] » I'll approve it.
[39:33] >> Second.
[39:35] >> Roll call, please, Jay.
[39:37] >> Ann Norris?
[39:38] >> Yes.
[39:39] >> Miss Hanson?
[39:40] >> Yes.
[39:40] >> Tom Framingham?
[39:41] >> Yes.
[39:41] >> Mark Childers?
[39:42] >> Yes.
[39:43] >> Jeff Nance?
[39:44] >> Yes, sir.
[39:44] >> Scott Bronson?
[39:45] >> Yes.
[39:45] >> Mark Fredrick?
[39:46] >> Yes.
[39:48] >> Okay. Um And with no items further on
[39:52] the agenda,
[39:53] first off, thank you for everybody
[39:55] coming. We appreciate it. Um your
[39:57] presence says a lot and we we know that
[40:00] you care and I I appreciate that. So,
[40:03] but with no other items, I'll entertain
[40:05] a motion for adjournment.
[40:06] >> So moved.
[40:07] >> All All in favor?
[40:09] >> Aye.
[40:10] >> Any opposed, like sign.
[40:11] Okay. Thanks everybody.