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>> if you're ready. [noise].

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>> time is 5:30, and I'm going to call tonight's workshop of the board of trustees

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of the coppell independent school district into session. First thing we need to do is establish a quorum.

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we'll start to my right, trustee anthony hill, trustee ranna raval,

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trustee jobby mathew, trustee nichole bentley, trustee manish sethi, trustee leigh walker and myself.

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we do have a quorum and every member is present. That will take us into our open forum.

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as I mentioned earlier, we do have quite a few signed up to speak tonight.

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just as we have in the past, if you were here last week. Thank you.

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you guys have as a community, always been kind and gracious and very respectful and not only your comments,

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but while other people are speaking. Thank you for that and just I ask that we keep that up as we go through tonight.

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just a couple of reminders when it's your turn. We're going to call five at a time and line up along that half wall,

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and we're going to do that since we do have quite a few that are signed up to speak also out in the lobby and just

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make sure they have time to hear names and make their way up to this room as well.

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but just a reminder when you are at the podium, if you'll address the board,

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not the audience, we'll ask that only those that we have called be out at a time,

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just since there is quite a few were at capacity and making sure that we keep safety and security top of mind of everybody and then,

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as we always do, just ask no disruptions. Clapping, booing, cheering, whatever.

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at the end, I'll give you all a moment. You're going to hear some things you agree with, some that you don't.

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just remember you may feel one way and somebody sitting next to you may feel the other.

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we want to be respectful of everybody. Before we get started,

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now y'all can bear with me while I read our opening statement, and then I'll go through our first five names.

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the board encourages comments about the coppell independent school district from citizens of the district,

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its employees, or from other members of the public. Anyone who has signed up to speak in advance of the meeting

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in accordance with board policy and procedures may do so at this time. The board asked that each participant's comments pertain

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to public education and be no longer than one minute. Remember that pursuant to the texas open meetings act,

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during special meetings or board workshops such as this, public comment is limited to agenda items only.

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the board may not discuss or act upon any issues that are not posted on our agenda.

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in addition, the board has adopted complaint policies that are designed to secure at

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the lowest administrative level a prompt and equitable resolution of complaints and concerns.

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complaints brought by employees may be heard in accordance with policies dgba legal and dgba local,

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by students or their parents in accordance with policies f&g legal and f&g local,

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and by citizens in accordance with policies gf legal and gf local and those policies are on the website,

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if you ever want to look those up. Each of these processes provides that if

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a resolution cannot be achieved administratively, the person may appeal the administrative decision to

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the board as a properly posted agenda item. I got out of order,

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but copies of the district policies and procedures on public participation in meetings and filing

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complaints are available online on the coppell isd website, which is coppellisd.com.

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with that, let me just go ahead and apologize now.

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I'm not always the best pronunciator, so I'll do my best to get your names right,

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but if I happen to misspeak or say it wrong, just go ahead and I'll ask for your forgiveness now up front.

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our first speaker will be philippe fruge, followed by stella farinacci, thank you.

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see, I'm already off to a start. Heather woodard, woodard will be our third,

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juan rolan will be our fourth, and then emily blanton, you'll be number five in line.

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as I said earlier, sorry, for those that didn't hear. When you come to the podium, if you'll just state your name and address,

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your time will start after you say your name and address. Then our timekeeper, I should say is our board secretary,

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jobby mathew, and he's got a timer going and does have some paddles to wave with the time.

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>> I know, sometimes it's head down and you're not really paying attention to me up here or to us all,

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gently remind you at time if you don't hear the timer is well about time. I appreciate it.

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>> do I start? >> you can start. >> philippe fruge, 402 brooks lane.

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hello, dr. Hunt and esteem board members. My name is philippe fruge,

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and I'm a fourth grader at wilson elementary. I would like the dli program to remain at wilson.

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the teachers at wilson are so special. They have taught me how to learn in english and in spanish. Wilson is my home.

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if you take dli away from wilson, you're taking wilson away from wilson.

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>> thank you, and stella. >> stella farinacci 10763 canoe drive.

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good afternoon, dr. Hunt and board. My name is stella farinacci, and I'm a fourth grader at wilson.

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this is my fifth year at wilson being in the dli program. I'm here today to say why I think dli should stay at wilson elementary.

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my brother graduated from wilson and I really enjoy having the same experience as him.

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I also have a lot of friends outside of dli and teachers such as mr. Hanson and miss kenti who have been a really important part of my experience at wilson.

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dli is not just a program at wilson, dli is wilson. If you take away dli at wilson, you change wilson.

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thank you for your time and I hope you can consider keeping dli at wilson.

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>> thank you. Heather woodard.

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>> I'm heather woodard. I live at 722 meadowglen circle.

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I'm here today to speak about pinkerton making a difference for my child since she transferred here.

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pinkerton has been a wonderful school for us. The staff goes above and beyond to help the students.

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my autistic child has become a different person since coming to pinkerton.

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she is happier and more positive. She is getting her work done. She is more vocal with us.

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she is sharing and open and no longer speaks negatively of herself. Instead of saying, mommy, I'm so stupid.

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she says, mommy, I'm a smart cookie. Instead of asking mommy, why does everyone hate me?

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she says, I had fun with my friends today. Instead of saying, mommy, I can't do it.

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she says, mommy, I'm trying. That is all thanks to pinkerton and the staff there who actually care about her.

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please don't close the doors to pinkerton. Please don't close the doors to my daughter when it has just

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barely opened for her. Thank you. >> thank you, heather. Juan, you'll be up next and then

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I'm going to go ahead and call becca bailey, ashley ballesteros, and julie waters will be our next.

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>> my name is juan gabriel rolon. I'm all resident by addresses 303 fairview court.

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dear board members, and dr. Hunt. Thank you for all you do for the school district.

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I am a wilson ranger. We lead the way. I stand before you to address the proposed changes to our dli program.

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the program enriches our children, not just because of bilingualism, but also due to the diverse and inclusive setting they are immersed in.

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moving the program from wilson will disrupt a unique, diverse, and inclusive community that has tried for nearly a decade.

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most dli families that live close to wilson campus will face significant challenges with the proposed change

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and may decide to stay in wilson and leave the dli program. We feel that this change may be the start

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of the end of the dli program in our school district. What assurances do we have that the program will continue for years to come?

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what about our wilson teachers and principal? We understand that cold numbers are driving the options being presented,

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but those affected by them are our children. You know, we don't think of them as a statistic.

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see them for who they are. We urge you to keep all for schools open and keep

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the dli programs at wilson and denton creek. Thank you. >> thank you. Julie I should have said your kids, joshua,

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daniel and juliet will be right after you two, she can take them with you. Go ahead. Sorry.

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>> hi. Good evening. My name is emily blanton, and I reside at 846 meadowglen circle. Good evening.

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my family has been in coppell isd for the past 30 years and I currently have a seventh grader at north,

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a first grader in the dli program at denton creek, and hopefully an incoming kindergartner this next school year.

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I initially enrolled my oldest in the program in an attempt to challenge his active brain.

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after being in the program for eight years, I have learned that we gained so much more.

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this program creates a family environment where we rely on each other. To learn and to understand.

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we have gained a culture and the opportunity to expand who we are able to engage with.

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I believe that any disruption to the dli program would prove to be detrimental to those it serves.

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this change would affect two title 1 campuses that have economically disadvantaged families in attendance.

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you would be moving children in lower income homes to a school across town and would add additional strain for them.

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we must also consider what this would mean for students in home early by the nurse. Thank you.

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>> thank you, emily. Ms. Becca. >> rebecca bailey, I'm at 600 meadowview circle here in coppell.

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first, I'd like to thank each of you for handling our budget challenges caused by underfunding from the state.

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as an austin alumni, parent, and pto president. Tonight, I'd like to talk specifically about our location.

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austin is located in the middle of a residential neighborhood. So much so that 33% of our zone students walk or ride their bikes to school.

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this has become part of our identity as a campus. Drop off and pickup are where we see community connections being made.

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if austin is consolidated, our families will be dispersed to campuses across hazardous traffic conditions.

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by doing so, you're asking our families to change the culture of how we do school and community.

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in addition, our campus location offers an opportunity for future growth.

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it is ideally positioned within the district to receive students from irving.

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austin is currently around 90% capacity. This still leaves around 60 seats available for future learners should it be needed.

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thank you for hearing our stories, and we trust that you'll make the best decision for cisd as a whole.

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>> hello. My name is ashley ballesteros. I'm at 350 kyra court,

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and I'm a wilson ranger. Five years ago, my husband and I moved to coppell for its highly rated school district.

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in particular, the dual language program at wilson. Since then, both our girls, sophia and emily,

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have actively participated in this amazing school, which promotes inclusivity and diversity.

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the dual language program is successful because both bilingual and monolingual students

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learn from each other and they immerse in each other's culture. See, if you consolidate or you segregate all the bilingual students to one campus,

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you'll take away the immersing part of this program. Segregate. Yeah. I said it.

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as I was writing this speech, I thought to myself, racial segregation, school closures.

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how is this the same coppell that five years ago, I sought so eagerly to join.

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now, as a cpa, I get it. For the first time ever,

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this community will actually realize the financial deficit. However, our bilingual learners are worth way more than a budget cut.

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let's work together to find a solution. Please keep dli at wilson. >> thank you, ashley. Julie?

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>> my name is julie waters, and I live at 252 east bethel.

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board members, I appreciate all of you today and the difficult decision that lays ahead.

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as a pinkerton parent, I am here to appeal to you today on behalf of all school.

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before you make a decision on school closures, give parents a chance to fight the state legislature.

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the texas legislature resumes in less than four months, january 2025,

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give parents a chance to come together and ask them for money that our schools desperately need.

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please don't make a decision before having all of the facts. What if they release the funding?

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then we won't have a deficit and you won't need to close a school. If they don't release the fund,

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then maybe you need to close more than one school. Don't make parents suffer through two consecutive years of school closures and rezoning.

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if we have to close a school or two, let's do it the right way and do it once.

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but please don't make a decision before you get all of the facts. If you close a school now,

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there is no incentive for coppell parents to advocate for school funding in austin.

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>> time, julie. >> one more year. That's all that I'm asking for. Let the people of coppell truly unite and go to austin.

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>> my name is daniel waters,

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and I'm in second grade. I live in east bethel road.

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I want you to keep our school open because all my friends are

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there and if I go to a new school and I'll be different.

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I really want to finish fifth and do the stuff my brother is and my brother is learning.

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>> hello. My name is joshua waters, and I live at 252 east bethel road.

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I don't want you to close my school because then I won't get to see my friends every day,

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I'll miss my teachers. Also, if I go to a new school and I'm in fifth grade,

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then I won't be familiar with the school around me.

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so the second graders might know more about the school than I do.

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also, I want my brother and my sister to have the same experience that I have.

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>> juliet is not speaking. Dr. Pedro, could you give me one second real quick?

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I'm going to call up sanbi, is it vupala?

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and then sweta gunda and

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ratana vupala. You can go ahead. Thank you.

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>> need pad 241 magnolia drive. Moving the dli program from wilson directly impacts the largest hispanic,

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spanish speaking and low socioeconomic population in our district. English language learners, special education students,

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and low income families already have enough barriers in their academic life. The proposed changes multiplies those barriers instead of alleviating them.

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the group of parents are the ones who have the most to lose if they speak up against these changes.

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how have we protected them as one of the most vulnerable student groups in our district?

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to not build options from a place of minimizing impact on those furest from opportunity is to turn

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a blind eye to our responsibility of ensuring access to a high quality education for every child.

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our spanish speaking students are worthy of being prioritized because fairness is not equal.

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hispanic bilingual students like my sophia deserve to be valued and barriers to her educational progress removed instead of added.

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like another 100 families, we would deny the dli program and stay close to home.

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how is this in the best interest of an underserved community? Thank you.

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>> good evening, all. My name is san vu palla and I'm in third grade at austin elementary.

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I don't want the school to shut down because all my friends there,

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I don't know which school they'll transfer to, and then I'll miss them so much because I won't get to play with them.

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also, all my kind teachers, our memories will be gone.

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if the school doesn't stay because the teachers might transfer to a school that that's not your school.

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the teachers that are very kind. If the school stays,

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the teachers will stay there, and also all our friends are very kind and

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helpful and we don't want to lose those kind friends that always stay by our side.

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>> thank you. Go ahead. You can finish. Sorry. They mean to cut you off.

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before you start, go ahead and call it meghan hope, jennifer bunting, and jackie taves.

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>> good evening all. I'm sha gunda, a resident of 1368 away,

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close to austin elementary. As a proud parent of two daughters who are in elementary and high school,

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who have had the privilege to attend austin. I'm deeply troubled by the potential shutdown of austin.

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I have seen how austin has fostered a love for learning in my daughters.

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my elder one flourished under the nurturing environment of austin.

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my younger one is currently enjoying her learning journey in the very same school which she loves and ados.

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thank you, hall, and I hope you can keep austin.

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>> good evening, everyone. My name is ratavo pala, 1368 otter way, south aven community.

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I'm here today to speak on behalf of austin elementary community.

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and here, my family already spoke about [inaudible].

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the most important thing that I want to add here is austin is being as part of my family for last seven years,

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and it's one thing that is keeping connecting our family every day.

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that's our dinner topic, what happened at school, who is this teacher. My high school kid is still talking to us,

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and that's a one point that we use. We considered austin is not just a school,

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it's a part of our family, and we don't want to lose it. I know there are a lot of numbers crunch that you guys have done,

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and we all would like to know the rubric or logic behind that.

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and we all are here to support. Make sure that there are no cisd schools go do.

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and we have moved to south aven committee five years ago.

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I also convinced a lot of my friends to come in. They left their previous schools,

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they left their charter schools. Now we don't want to go them back to, and then nobody's going to get benefit if they go back to

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charter schools or move out of coal. Please consider it. Thank you. Alicia mcgurk,

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you will be followed by niko nuri. Hopefully, I said that right.

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>> hi, meghan hope, 524 brier glen drive.

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thank you to the board for helping us navigate this challenging decision.

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in addition to having a kindergartner and a second grader at austin elementary,

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I work in higher education. I spend my time teaching at the rank of associate professor and directing graduate academic programs.

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I have taught and mentored hundreds of adult learners since 2017.

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I have observed that learners need more than academic rigor to succeed in higher education.

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instead, the most well rounded learners have developed strong social and emotional intelligence

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and have a village to support and foster their unique gifts. Separating over 500 children across four campuses while losing

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neighborhood support will negatively affect young children and their families during this transformative time in their lives.

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I recognize that these are challenging decisions. However, I urge you to prioritize the children's social and emotional intelligence and

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anything that and prioritize this above your other criteria. Thank you.

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>> jen.

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>> my name is jennifer bunting. I live at 130 nach trace.

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first of all, thank you to the board and dr. Hunt for all of the hours you're putting in,

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this is an impossible decision you guys have to make and I know we're going to support you in whatever happens,

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but thank you for everything. With that said, it's no secret. I'm passionate about new tech haya kapel for many reasons.

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it is a place that has taught my two girls confidence, perseverance, leadership, and belonging in a way that I know they would never have gotten anywhere else.

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as I've seen over the last six years, it's also a place where everyone is accepted and can feel

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like they are part of a team and that team can make a difference. One of my biggest worries in the world today is

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mental health for secondary and college age kids. I'm worried that if a place like new tech,

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a safe environment, for so many, there will be nowhere for the kids to go where they feel they can

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belong and learn in a lower pressure learning environment. The project based learning curriculum teaches actual life skills

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that are needed to cope with whatever challenges they face in life. There's no doubt that new tech is a necessary option in coppell,

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and there really isn't a way to put a price on something like that. Thank you. >> thank you. I'm going to go ahead call up judy barbo and ella price,

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you'll be the next two in line. >> good evening. My name is jackie taves.

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I live at 602 madison street and coppell, and my son is currently a fourth grade monolingo student at denton creek elementary,

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I'd like to address how the consolidation of copels dli programs could affect our family personally.

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my son began as a kindergartner at denton creek elementary in the fall of 2020.

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due to covid, my son and his classmates were faced with a daunting task of walking into their first day of big kids school alone.

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however, thankfully, because of denton creek's faculty and staff,

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our children were not alone. Over the years, this community has become

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a trusted environment for not only my son, but our family. Now, we are once again being faced with a daunting task.

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the possibility of uprooting our children from dc's trusted community,

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a school that isn't with walking distance of my home, and what will be for my son,

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his fifth grade and final year of elementary school. I ask the board to please consider my family situation,

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along with the far reaching ramifications of consolidating the dli programs.

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thank you for your time and consideration. >> alicia.

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>> alicia mcgurk, 25 plus year resident of 634 han crest lane.

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I'm alicia mcgurk, former educator, administrator, and professional volunteer in csd for over 25 years.

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I am also an austin resident. My kids went to austin elementary, and every school in coppell is a great school.

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we all love it. We love the programs. That's why we're all here. We have great teachers, administrators, it could go on forever.

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however, the bottom line is we're here for money. We are here to shut a school down because of money.

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as it is, it's not our fault it's not their fault, it's the state's fault. I want you to focus on the money and not to forget that.

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the reason is, busing students, 496 students, busing them to other schools is going to cost money.

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title I school, you're losing money if you shut down austin elementary. Regeneration of a young neighborhood.

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there's not many neighborhoods in coppell that young families can't afford. They can't afford the neighborhood in

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a austin elementary neighborhood. You want regeneration. It's the future of cid.

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if we don't have new students come in, new families, young families, we're not going to have a cid. We're going to lose it.

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I want to focus on the money, not the passion we all have for our schools.

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we all have our passion. But not forget the reason we're here is because of money and there's lots of reasons for that.

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thank you. Thank you for time today. >> thank you, alicia.

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>> good evening board members? I'm [inaudible] at 10755 canoe drive in irving?

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it's a south haven community it's a brand new community with sd. I request the board to reconsider the decision of closing

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austin elementary before state makes funding decision in january 2025.

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please try to use the 70 plus million rainy day fund. We did not want oversize classrooms or

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causing negative shock to kids will impact their growth. There are 496 kids in austin.

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how are you going to accommodate them in various cst schools? Can you please share the rubric results?

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why are other schools not in consultation? Can you please keep the austin all the csd schools open?

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please request the state to increase the budget per student based on the inflation.

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and can you please keep the austin elementary open? There are 20 plus kids from

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my community at austin second grade who goes to school along with my daughter. Please do not separate them by placing them at different schools.

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please do not send my two kids to two different schools. I cannot take it.

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and I moved down from plano three years ago just for csd school. T hank you.

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>> thank. Sure, you give me one second. I'm going to call up tisha shaw.

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and then is it janie christian, jani c kristian?

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this one I'm having a hard time with the writing.

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>> 1565 otter way.

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>> maybe in the other room. We'll give a second on that one, but sorry I just wanted you to stand there for a second.

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>> thanks judy. >> judy barbo 607 movie lane.

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first of, I'd like to thank you all for your time, which I know it's countless hours.

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I've had the opportunity to work with several of you and I know most of you personally.

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I know this is not a decision that you take lightly. It is gut wrenching and probably many sleepless nights.

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having been there in your seat, I advocate for every school in coppell.

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I believe in all of them, I think they're great. I think every program is great. But at the juncture that we're at,

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we need find some money, and we need to, unfortunately,

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be at the situation we're at. With that said, I'm a proud austin alumni parent,

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had two kids that have gone through austin, have one that is currently employed at austin

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and I've been in the austin zone for over 30 years. But with a decrease in elementary kids throughout the district,

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it is the one neighborhood that is regenerating, and it is in my opinion,

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the board has always done what is right for the best option for the district with the least impact of the children,

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and just keep that in mind. Thank you. >> thank you, judy. Ela.

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>> my name is ela price, and I live at two oh five south mcguur boulevard.

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I'm a sophomore in new tech this year and I feel that new tech shouldn't be closed or consolidated because it

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has built an environment that makes students feel safe and able to truly be themselves at school.

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it makes it safe for students to express themselves without fear or bullying in

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a learning environment that's fully supports their students and independence and transition into adulthood.

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along with giving students a second choice of the type of school they want to go to instead of being directed to chs.

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it gives students a chance to show their strengths in other ways that are other than taking a test.

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it allows students to give a chance, present, network with businesses and learn other skills that prepare them for

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a world that they are exposed to after they graduate. Thank you.

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>> thank you, ela. Addition one second, I'm going to go ahead and call laura wortman,

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shall. Thank you. Then again, and if I miss somebody,

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we'll come back at the end to, but p. Jeanie christian at 1365 water way,

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if you're in the building, you can make your way up as well. Thank you. Tisha shaw.

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>> hi. My name is tisha shaw. I live at 9718 wendy holle drive, irving texas.

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thank you to the coppell community for giving me this opportunity to speak today. New tech coppell has created a family and a safe environment.

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I am always going back to my facilitators and friends knowing that they will always have my back no matter what.

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new tech is a hidden gem. Because of its unique education system, the community impact that the school does is amazing.

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letting students find their passion along with all of this and also letting students network is a huge pic point.

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everyone in the school has a unique personality that makes each person different and not the same.

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these students can be themselves and not someone that they have to be forcefully.

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this makes them stand out from other 100 students out there.

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this is a school for leaders. Hiking out the school is like taking out hundreds of leaders from the community.

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my request to the board is to keep the school by finding a new solution that could help out and keep the school one of a kind. Thank you.

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>> ignacio martinez, 765 south coppell road.

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thank you for the opportunity to speak today. I'm here to express my concerns about the proposal

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to consolidate our dli program to another school. This decision is not in the best interest of

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our students or our community for several reasons. Growing up in mexico,

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I personally benefited from a dual language program. Many families, including mine,

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moved to coppell specifically for the dli program at wilson elementary. This program is a significant factor in our schools enrollment.

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the esl students, who are the backbone of our dli program are zoned for

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the wilson and live literally right across the street. Busing them across town instead of allowing them to walk to school

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isolates them from their community and disrupts their daily lives. This is a community that is typically underrepresented in events such as these,

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given the language barrier and unfortunately aren't able to speak for themselves.

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when the board rezoned cypress waters residents from lee elementary, it was to keep the community together.

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consolidating the dli program to denton creek divides our community and contradicts this rationale.

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as mentioned before, esl students living within a block away from wilson and

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would prefer to stay even if it means moving to monolingual classes. Thank you.

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>> thank you. I'm going to go ahead and call lean lou, beth holland, and sherry hill as well.

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>> hi. I'm short, [laughter] sorry. I'm laura wortman.

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I live at 506 eden street. I'm not going to try to look at my notes now because I think it's in my head.

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I'm here to advocate for new tech. I originally say all schools in coppell and I still really stand by that,

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but what's near and dear to my heart is new tech, because I have an autistic daughter who's in this room right here.

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I don't think that without the choice between high-schools and

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both the learning model and the learning environment that we give at the high school level,

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that my child would be thriving at this point. When growing up in middle school is very hard for communication,

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it was very hard to make friends, it was very hard to feel like you're a part of something. At new tech, the way that the learning styles are,

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where you're forced into project based learning, where you're delivering together, where you are able to go to things like networking on fridays and you're forced to

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be in that environment where you have to get to know people and you have to know how to work with them, that is invaluable.

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having that choice, those different environments, and those different learning models within the high-school level and

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the upper higher analytics learning level in high-school here in coppell is critical. Thank you for my time.

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>> chris shell, 108 rosebriar court. I want to thank the board first off for tackling these issues.

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school consolidation is nasty business. You guys know this. There's no winners.

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nobody wants to be here, well, other than y'all. I like to quickly make two points.

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as we go through this process, I would insist that the board is forthright with

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their participation and with their attendance relationships, and that the schools targeted have some transparency

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as to how the board members have relationships to these schools. The second point I want to make is that coppell prides itself in choice,

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but in a time of austerity, choice is a luxury we no longer have.

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austin elementary sits in the heart of coppell with 87% of students zoned for austin elementary,

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excluding pre k. With consolidation, a majority of these students will

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lose the bond that they have to walk to school with their parents.

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we're going to have kids who are going to be walking across major thoroughfares. I do wonder that if we're willing to cut the heart

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of coppell in austin elementary or what we're even doing as a town. Thank you.

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>> then following sherry, here in a second, robert and jans hill,

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both of you are up next. >> I'm leanne loop. I live at 617 villa wood lane previously at highland meadow circle,

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where we could walk with our kids 5-7 minutes away from austin elementary.

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I'm here as a community member and a former austin parent and pto volunteer,

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and a lot of things have already been said, so I'm just going to go to what has not been said. According to the north texas real estate information systems mls,

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the average home sold price of the last six months in the austin attendance zone

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is $536,349 and there were 40 homes sold in that period.

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the average home sold price over the last six months in the pinkerton zone is $811,912 and there were 20 homes sold.

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I share this because the austin attendance zone, which includes rental homes and apartments is one of

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the most affordable cisd areas in which a family can buy or rent a home. If the district is looking to increase the number of elementary age children in cisd,

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the austin neighborhoods are and continue to be an ideal place where that could happen.

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I'm so sorry we find ourselves in this situation. Thank you for handling it for us.

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>> hi. My name is beth holland, and I live at 220 meadow glen circle,

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and I'm the proud parent of three denton creek trailblazers and dli students.

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their names are mac, henry, and will. I'm also a part of the pto at denton creek.

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part of what I want to touch on that we've been working through as a school this past week is the lack of

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transparency that the presentation on monday gave to us as a community at denton creek.

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our name was said a lot, but it wasn't nothing displayed the impact of

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what the proposition of combining the dli program would be on our school.

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we have probably 50% of our monolingual students that would be rezoned to three different campuses,

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completely breaking up the monolingual part that our dual language kids are friends with,

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shifting the diversity that is at our school. It is a huge change that the parents at denton creek did

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not at all understand after the presentation.

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it's something we've been talking about, and it's been really frustrating just to not have that transparency there. Thank you.

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>> hello. I am sherry hill, 724 post oak coppell.

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my name is sherry hill, and I'm a dli mom, a pdo board member and a wilson ranger.

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I've spent the morning on saturday talking with wilson families that live across the street from wilson.

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many of these families I spoke to did not even know that this was happening where the dli program could be moved to denton creek.

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these families are mostly the spanish second language students that

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go to wilson dli that meets up the need of wilson dli.

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they're going to lose this opportunity to be in these after school activity.

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>> robert hill, 724 post oak.

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wilson dli program, under the leadership of principal hilton and his incredible staff has become the cornerstone of our community.

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the unique culture and environment created and fostered as a thriving learning environment for our children.

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moving the program to denton creek could jeopardize the educational opportunities and the positive outcomes of our students.

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the wilson educators have helped our family in ways money can't explain.

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my son is dyslexic and with the guidance of wilson staff,

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vance has moved from struggling to reading and is now reading on the same level or above his peers.

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in the process of making his family proud with the success which wouldn't happen if he wasn't in wilson.

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the decision to move the wilson dli would lead to possible exodus of the students from the program.

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many parents expressed strong preference of keeping their children at wilson. The large number of dli children that walk to the wilson would also cause a hardship on

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those families already trying to learn english without having to worry about transportation.

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let us prioritize the well being of our students and preserve the exceptional educational opportunities offered by

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the wilson dli and principal hilton. I am a wilson ranger.

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>> [inaudible] >> hi. My name is vance. I live at 724 post oak drive coppell.

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I am a wilson ranger. I love my school.

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it is my home. I'm not just a number,

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I am a person. I don't want to lose my friends or my school.

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please don't move wilson.

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>> thank you. I'm going to go ahead and call up, so we've got raj vimal,

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then I'm going to call up praveen. Sorry. Doug, is that your order?

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>> [inaudible] >> we're good. Praveen, and then virendra shah. If you'll join.

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>> good evening, everyone. My name is vimal khasa from 10631 kingfisher road.

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today, I'm here for my son, who goes to austin elementary and to support fellow residents of the south haven community here.

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my son loves going to austin, and for him change is incredibly difficult.

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we have seen tremendous improvement in his communication and cognitive skills since his time in austin,

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and we are quite excited for his future in austin. I understand the district's financial challenges,

406
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but why rush the decision? The texas legislature meets in january,

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which might offer some funding solutions. We are also missing transparency in how certain schools were selected for closure.

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we have substantial emergency fund, and for me, this is an emergency.

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we would like to use this time to explore innovative solutions like repurposing underused facilities,

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partnering with local businesses, or expanding open enrollment to attract more families to keep the schools open.

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instead of focusing on school closures, we should be channeling our collective energy to keep the schools safe.

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thank you. I'm a proud coppell resident and a concerned parent. Thank you.

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>> [inaudible] >> good evening, board. I'm praveen palago. I reside at 1336 otter way in coppell in south haven community.

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I'm a proud parent of a mustang in first grade, and we also have a daughter who will start kindergarten next year.

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austin elementary is my son's first experience in a formal school setting, and he loves it.

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the small class sizes at austin foster strong bonds between teachers and students and help the students grow emotionally and socially.

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now this proposal to consolidate schools could potentially increase class sizes,

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force parents and kids to commute longer distances and require them to adjust to new set of teachers, facilities.

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this is unfair to my kids and our community. I urge the board to postpone the decision about

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closing austin elementary until there is a better understanding of next year's budget allocations.

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in the meantime, please consider using the rainy day fund to cover any deficits.

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I'm confident that this community is willing to stand with the board and campaign for higher school budgets so that we don't have to be in this situation. Thank you.

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>> there we go. Sorry. I'm just going to call a few more names while we're switching speak.

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raja chikami, pirvin kumar,

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sanjay singh, if you want to join the line. You may start.

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>> hi. Good evening. I'm dr. Raj bondugula. I live at 10640 canoe drive coppell.

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I'm also a resident of south haven neighborhood that is zoned to austin elementary school.

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00:44:12,595 --> 00:44:16,180
the prospect of austin shutting down is detrimental to our younger son's future since he'll not benefit

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from small class sizes and individual attention he receives today. Studies have shown that both of

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these factors have profound impact on children's development. In addition to the longer commute to a school father from the neighborhood,

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it will also increase his stress levels. I'm being told that if something happens to austin,

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it could also mean our neighborhood could be rezoned into a school other than coppell east,

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impacting my older son, who will start at middle school next year. While I'm talking about my children here,

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I also represent the anxiety of every parent in our neighborhood with about 200 houses.

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we're asking your help to come up with creative solutions that can prevent austin elementary from shutting down.

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we're asking for a solution that can save our property values from plummeting,

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which in turn will impact the schools even more. We are asking for this group to work with state legislators to increase

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the funding allotted per student and prevent such school closings. Thank you very much.

439
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,370
>> good evening. My name is virendra shah. I live at 9718 wendy hollow drive irving.

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I'm here to advocate new tech education system.

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00:45:32,860 --> 00:45:35,065
my daughter is a 10th grader, and when she was in eighth grade,

442
00:45:36,955 --> 00:45:38,410
she had a choice to make, whether to go to new tech or to another school chs.

443
00:45:42,685 --> 00:45:46,570
because of the unique program, project based learning, and the way it's suit her style, personality,

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00:45:51,190 --> 00:45:51,190
we felt new tech is the place and she liked the whole program and the approach.

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this being a second year, she made a commitment to complete her high-school in the new tech.

446
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here is my request for the board, to please consider and give a choice to our students, our community,

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00:46:09,415 --> 00:46:12,220
to select between the programs and find a creative way and solution to keep the program active. Thank you.

448
00:46:22,950 --> 00:46:26,020
>> hello. My name is ragara regecani. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak today.

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I live in 1364 waterway, south ave community, and my child attends austin elementary.

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00:46:33,220 --> 00:46:37,030
I'm here today because closing schools like ours is a mistake. We moved to coppell about three years ago,

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00:46:39,790 --> 00:46:41,410
for it's excellent schools and pay high property taxes for the promise of quality education.

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00:46:44,140 --> 00:46:45,775
other promises being broken. Why should families like mine continue to investing in

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00:46:48,610 --> 00:46:48,610
a community that's willing to close very schools that made it desirable?

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00:46:53,515 --> 00:46:55,285
why aren't we using the rainy day fund? Isn't this exactly what it's for to keep our schools open during difficult times?

455
00:46:59,590 --> 00:47:03,550
why aren't we waiting until january to see if additional state funding could help? Why rush to close schools when there's a chance of relief just months away?

456
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,280
closing these schools will break the bonds that kids have formed [noise] with their friends,

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00:47:14,635 --> 00:47:17,515
teachers, and the nurturing environment that has shaped them. It's not just about education.

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00:47:19,540 --> 00:47:22,090
it's about the community these schools create. Why don't we open enrollment to increase enrollment?

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00:47:24,865 --> 00:47:27,160
why only certain schools are considered for closing when there are other schools with lower enrollment.

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00:47:29,545 --> 00:47:32,245
are we going to close more schools? How was it decided that [inaudible]? Thank you.

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00:47:42,125 --> 00:47:42,125
>> so we're going to call on mishra.

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forgive me on this one, but yeyi mohtamed at 309 ricknw, then hajra rashid.

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00:47:55,830 --> 00:47:55,830
>>I'm pawun kumarbiki, and I live in 10719 kingfisher road in south haven community.

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I recently moved my two kids from charter school to austin elementary,

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as I heard great things about austin. This is a big change for them as they lose their old friends and teachers,

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which they are accustomed to. As my kids getting accustomed to austin with new friends and teachers,

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00:48:19,795 --> 00:48:22,930
it will be disappointing that next year they will be forced to go to new school and accustomed to new school all over again.

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00:48:27,595 --> 00:48:30,130
we still don't know how austin was chosen as one of the schools and shocked with this news.

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00:48:32,725 --> 00:48:32,725
we are all paying higher property taxes every year and,

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it's the time to increase the funding per student. We want austin elementary to be open like today,

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and I don't want my kids to be disappointed at this time.

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we don't want to go back to charter school again. You don't try to encourage this case. Thank you.

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00:48:58,370 --> 00:49:00,930
>> good evening. My name is sanjay singh, and I reside at 1360 wood drive.

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two of my kids go to austin elementary. My daughter is in first grade,

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and my son is in fourth grade. We recently moved them from universal academy to to austin elementary.

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from the day 1, my kids love the teachers, the personal attention they get,

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the staff and everybody at austin elementary. Changing the structure of austin elementary in form of

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any shape or anything would be detrimental to our kids.

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it is my sincere request to the board that they should consider not merging or closing austin elementary,

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and come up with some other innovative ideas to continue the school. Thank you.

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>> thank you. I'm also going to call to join us in line as sunil samaran,

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and then sarash chirom mamila.

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>> let me start. Hi. Good evening, board members.

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my name is misa. I live in 10559 kingfisher road carpel.

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we have recently moved my kid from charter school. He's just adjusting here right now,

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and as a parents, we are also adjusting to a new form of education here.

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he got friends there already, neighbor friends that he wanted to and he lost

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his couple of friends in the charter school. We were shocked with the news because

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we had a plan like he's going to go to middle school, and then if we come here for the next three years, he will make friends.

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then when he go to middle school, he's very familiar with the teachers and the environment.

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after getting this, I don't know which school he is going, he's getting apart from his friends.

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so we were concerned and apart from that,

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the commuting and all. So we were spending like one hour every day to commute.

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now it is easy. I work from home most of the time.

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and my work started at 6:30. I don't have time to go and also.

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00:51:06,060 --> 00:51:06,060
yeah. So please consider those things and thank you.

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hi, I'm [inaudible] motamed. I live at 3:09 riknll drive.

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when I walked into my ap world classroom this year at new tech high,

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the first thing we defined was culture. Specifically, we used our school as an example.

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we have rules set by our own students enforced by our trust cards and our culture is open and welcoming.

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00:51:32,665 --> 00:51:34,495
when I went to chs, I was counting down the days until summer,

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like literally counting. I had a whole list. At new tech, I don't want school to end ever.

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our learning system brings a unique experience to us where we can

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implement our learning into real world situations and our own projects. We learn to work with others and act professionally.

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00:51:56,205 --> 00:52:00,125
without new tech, I could never come up here and speak to you today. Overall, we need a second choice in such influential moments of our lives.

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00:52:04,570 --> 00:52:04,570
new tech has made such an impact to me and I can't imagine graduating anywhere,

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but there, please don't make me. Thank you for your time.

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hi. My name is [inaudible]. I live at 160 mockingbird.

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so I have been thinking what to say, and so I'm going to just speak from the heart.

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what austin means to me and as a single mom that moved to coppell three years ago,

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it's more than just a building, it's more than a brick. It is a home.

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it is where my kids have flourished and became who they were.

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00:52:39,100 --> 00:52:41,665
my daughter, who is in now, when she came back going to austin,

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she said, mom, I can finally be myself. I can be who I am, I feel seen, I feel heard.

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those moments have still mean more to me than anything. I have two sons there.

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they heard last week that austin might be closing. The first thing my son came to me is like, well,

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00:53:00,670 --> 00:53:04,165
does the other school even have house colors? What are you doing? This cannot happen, and trying to calm these kids down and their nerves of saying, hey,

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00:53:09,715 --> 00:53:13,660
no decisions I've made, and my 8-year-old looked at me dead in the eye, said, this matters to me.

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00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:15,760
this decision matters to me and where I'm going and how this is being rezoned.

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I think there's needs to be transparency. I think we need to understand, so we can first explain to our kids.

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but again, [inaudible]. >> thank you. I'm going to call up to join us in line serena and then somo dugarada.

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00:53:37,750 --> 00:53:39,340
and we are at the halfway point. You guys are doing great, so thank you.

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>> good evening, board members. My name is [inaudible]. I live at 13:43 minor road,

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and I stand here before you today as a concerned parent as a part of neighborhood which includes

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00:53:53,260 --> 00:53:53,260
around 200 families all anxious about the potential closure of the austin elementary.

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00:53:59,290 --> 00:54:01,405
for my daughter and many other children, austin's small class size and individualized attentions

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00:54:04,825 --> 00:54:08,035
are crucial for their academic and emotional development. Study shows that these factors greatly contribute to the child's success.

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00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,380
moving her to a larger part of the school will not only deprive her of this essential support,

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00:54:17,455 --> 00:54:21,175
but will also add unnecessary stress due to the longer commute. We are asking for help in finding creative solutions to prevent austin from closing.

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00:54:26,050 --> 00:54:26,050
this decision would affect not only our children's educations,

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but also our property values which would further harm the district.

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00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:34,480
please work with state legislators to increase student funding and together,

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let's find a way to keep the austin elementary open. Thank you.

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00:54:43,170 --> 00:54:43,170
>> go ahead. Carla belen and emily brasfield yakin join the line.

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00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,195
>> good evening directors? I'm [inaudible] I live in 1373 otaway, south haven community.

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00:54:57,115 --> 00:54:57,115
as a parent of a second grader at austin elementary,

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I'm deeply concerned about the proposed school closure. We relocated to this area from

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00:55:07,780 --> 00:55:11,470
philadelphia specifically for the highly regarded popular cisd. I believe quality education is pivotal for my child's future.

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00:55:15,355 --> 00:55:17,725
these are my questions and concerns. What factors led to the to close the schools in this district?

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00:55:22,060 --> 00:55:24,175
was community input considered? Have you assessed the emotional impact on students?

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who will leave their familar school environment, friends and teachers.

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00:55:32,485 --> 00:55:32,485
how will the increase student to teacher ratio affect the quality of education,

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00:55:36,715 --> 00:55:36,715
and what measures will be taken to maintain individualized attention?

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00:55:41,735 --> 00:55:41,735
doesn't closing schools contradict the message

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of prioritizing high quality education in our community and the country.

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00:55:50,090 --> 00:55:53,770
what alternative solutions explore to avoid school closures, such as consolidation of resources,

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00:55:55,690 --> 00:55:55,690
budget reallocation, or community partnerships? Thank you.

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00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,865
>> good evening, everyone. My name is serena, south haven resident, residing at 1347 wood.

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my younger daughter as part of early childhood intervention, she has been evolving under austin elementary scare,

550
00:56:17,650 --> 00:56:17,650
and I'm deeply saddened by the news of closure of austin elementary

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because kids like her and other children who rely on these specialized needs will have a greater impact.

552
00:56:29,515 --> 00:56:33,365
and I want to emphasize that students have voices too. Just because they can't talk like adults doesn't mean we can take them out for a ride.

553
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,645
a significant concern is moving them to overcrowded schools or forcing them to take longer routes.

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00:56:47,745 --> 00:56:50,850
it's going to have a bigger impact on their studies because it leads to longer commute time,

555
00:56:54,330 --> 00:56:56,685
less rest time, things like that. If a family faces financial distress,

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00:56:59,990 --> 00:56:59,990
compromising kids' education is the last thing that we take into account.

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00:57:05,665 --> 00:57:07,615
that is not even an option. I'm deeply saddened that we are talking about closure of schools.

558
00:57:12,835 --> 00:57:16,480
whatever the challenge the district is facing, we are ready to stand by,

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be it fund raising or anything. [inaudible] please let stay austin elementary. Thank you.

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00:57:25,290 --> 00:57:27,520
>> following emily in a second. We've got jazz meta, tomala,

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and then andrew [inaudible]. >> good evening. My name is [inaudible],

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and I live at 1316 in otaway, which is south haven community again.

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00:57:40,885 --> 00:57:40,885
I'm here today as a concerned parent of two students at austin elementary,

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one in fourth grade, and one in freak. My family and we moved to this community three years ago,

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00:57:52,390 --> 00:57:52,390
and austin elementary was one of the main reasons we choose to call this place our home.

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00:57:57,265 --> 00:58:01,105
the potential closure of austin elementary is devastate. It's like losing a part of our family.

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00:58:03,745 --> 00:58:06,010
as a parent and member of this community, I strongly believe that austin elementary is vital to neighborhoods well being.

568
00:58:10,150 --> 00:58:12,790
closure would have far reaching consequences for our children's education and our community cohesion.

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00:58:15,730 --> 00:58:17,590
the question I have is, how would closing schools help the budget issue?

570
00:58:21,985 --> 00:58:21,985
I believe closing schools would force families to move out of

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the cis which will increase the problem of budget.

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00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,065
so in the long term. I respectfully request that the cst board consider the long term impact

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of closing the schools and explore alternative solutions that would keep schools open. Thank you.

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>> after andrew will be aj patusi. Paturi, sorry.

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00:58:56,095 --> 00:59:00,085
we'll get there. Thank you. >> I am carla belen. I live at 151 heather glen drive.

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00:59:03,370 --> 00:59:06,595
good evening. Thank you guys for being here. I have kids at east and west,

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and my husband teaches at chs9. As part of the bonds steering committee,

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I read hundreds of pages of facility documents, and I know that just scratches the surface of what you guys have already done.

579
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I know as do you that the budget needed to get pinkerton, the building up to even the standard of one of our footprint schools like

580
00:59:26,620 --> 00:59:26,620
austin was so high that the bond committee voted against any additional renovation money,

581
00:59:32,515 --> 00:59:36,370
even knowing that that could result in future consolidation. I debated whether or not to give comments tonight since my kids thrived at

582
00:59:40,165 --> 00:59:44,050
austin and I really don't want to create an austin versus pinkerton showdown. To the board, I'll just say thank you.

583
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:47,230
I know the flood of messages. Some of them super hateful that we got as a bond committee.

584
00:59:50,050 --> 00:59:53,620
again, I know that just scratches the surface of what you guys get. My hope is that everyone will remember that you as a board are here to serve all kids.

585
00:59:57,820 --> 01:00:00,865
I know we each want to advocate for our own child. But remember that if we're attending or listening to this meeting,

586
01:00:04,195 --> 01:00:07,795
our child has a deeply involved parent who's going to advocate for them. Not all kids have that.

587
01:00:09,220 --> 01:00:11,980
you matter means every child matters. >> thank you, carla.

588
01:00:18,150 --> 01:00:20,680
>> my name is emily brasfield. I live at 448 hidden valley lane.

589
01:00:23,095 --> 01:00:25,585
my family moved to coppell 11 years ago. We fell in love with the community and the schools.

590
01:00:28,015 --> 01:00:30,520
when we bought our first home in 2018, we knew we wanted our children to attend a neighborhood school.

591
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,850
we found a home walking distance to austin elementary. Austin has offered a loving and enriching elementary experience

592
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:41,920
for all four of my children. We have since moved to a home that is zoned for pinkerton,

593
01:00:44,950 --> 01:00:47,620
but have transferred to stay at austin the last three years because one love the school and the teachers,

594
01:00:50,695 --> 01:00:50,695
and we're actually closer to austin and we can avoid the morning traffic on dent tap.

595
01:00:55,825 --> 01:00:58,480
as a mother with children at three different campuses. I can tell you that during the morning drop off rush, every minute matters.

596
01:01:02,785 --> 01:01:04,960
as the board considers their options, I hope they consider

597
01:01:07,660 --> 01:01:07,660
the real estate appeal of a neighborhood school for future home buyers.

598
01:01:11,830 --> 01:01:15,160
I believe keeping neighborhood schools will make our district attractive to future young families looking to establish roots,

599
01:01:18,550 --> 01:01:21,130
just like it has been for mine. Thank you. >> thank you. Also go ahead and call sophia and leslie cardio.

600
01:01:26,095 --> 01:01:29,935
you guys will be joining the line, please. >> hello, andrew [inaudible], 527 melinda street.

601
01:01:34,630 --> 01:01:34,630
first and foremost, I'd like to thank the board for recognizing the unique value that

602
01:01:40,780 --> 01:01:44,425
ib program brings to the district by making sure that ib program is in all of the options that are being considered.

603
01:01:48,865 --> 01:01:48,865
with that, there is one option which has ib program being moved,

604
01:01:52,885 --> 01:01:56,020
and I would urge the board to strongly consider what are the details of that and share that with the community for transparency.

605
01:01:59,515 --> 01:01:59,515
ib programs require strict teacher training protocols.

606
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,325
are the teachers at wilson going to be trained? Are the teachers at pinkerton going to be transferred?

607
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,290
what is the plan? Students at wilson who do not want to be

608
01:02:13,660 --> 01:02:16,345
part of an ib program and keep their current curriculum. How will those students be impacted by this change?

609
01:02:19,780 --> 01:02:23,200
there are multiple schools across multiple areas that will be impacted by moving the ib program.

610
01:02:27,580 --> 01:02:27,580
lastly, ib program is not just a certificate you put on the wall, it's a culture.

611
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:33,160
it's a unique culture that's created over years and years?

612
01:02:38,260 --> 01:02:38,260
that does not transfer with a school. Thank you.

613
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:47,040
>> good afternoon, everyone. I'm ajay [inaudible],

614
01:02:51,790 --> 01:02:55,675
and I'm a dad of two kids that go to austin, one is in kindergarten and one is in second grade.

615
01:02:59,080 --> 01:02:59,080
I'm sure you all understand the passion and the sentiment that all

616
01:03:04,180 --> 01:03:04,180
of us paid and share facing the closure or possible closure.

617
01:03:12,030 --> 01:03:15,205
I don't want to repeat a lot of that. I just wanted to add that the reason

618
01:03:20,700 --> 01:03:20,700
we bought a home close to austin is because it's in a very safe and secure neighborhood.

619
01:03:26,310 --> 01:03:26,310
it's got a good setting and the kids really enjoy the school and all of that.

620
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:30,920
I was mentioning this to my daughter yesterday that there is a possibility

621
01:03:36,580 --> 01:03:40,510
of the school closing down and she got a little bit emotional and after a little bit of back and forth,

622
01:03:44,470 --> 01:03:47,245
she was asking me why. We said apparently there is not enough money to run the school

623
01:03:51,460 --> 01:03:51,460
and she came up with a solution and then a couple of seconds,

624
01:03:55,930 --> 01:03:55,930
she said, "why don't you pay and then we don't have to close the school."

625
01:04:03,590 --> 01:04:06,510
it sounds like a two-year-old solution, but thinking about it, I would ask the same of the board that.

626
01:04:10,350 --> 01:04:13,890
>> thanks, sorry. >> pulling more funding. >> time. Thank you.

627
01:04:18,180 --> 01:04:18,180
>> I want to make sure we didn't miss jasmita jumala. Didn't get anybody.

628
01:04:26,695 --> 01:04:28,915
>> my name is sophia corio. I live at 486 forest ridge drive.

629
01:04:31,210 --> 01:04:31,210
board members, I really hope that you will not relocate dli from wilson to denton creek.

630
01:04:36,535 --> 01:04:36,535
I'm currently in fifth grade dli and have two younger siblings in dli at wilson.

631
01:04:41,125 --> 01:04:42,910
we love being able to walk to school, and my brother and I are really looking forward to the musical lion king this year.

632
01:04:47,110 --> 01:04:50,050
please don't take my siblings from wilson and the opportunities there. It's always been a joy to go to wilson.

633
01:04:52,330 --> 01:04:54,985
my siblings and I all have friends in monolingual there. If you move the dli program,

634
01:04:56,980 --> 01:04:59,050
my siblings and I will most likely never see them again until middle school. Thank you for your time.

635
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:02,000
>> thank you. I'm also going to call up, is it [inaudible]?

636
01:05:09,510 --> 01:05:09,510
>> are you ready?

637
01:05:16,450 --> 01:05:19,090
>> sorry, go ahead. >> my name is leslie cardio. I live at 486 forrest ridge drive.

638
01:05:21,815 --> 01:05:25,395
seven years ago, my family was forced to make a hard decision. We could either send our oldest child to dli at

639
01:05:28,470 --> 01:05:28,470
denton creek or we could let her kids walk to wilson elementary.

640
01:05:33,230 --> 01:05:33,230
with this proposed change of moving dli to denton creek,

641
01:05:37,735 --> 01:05:41,365
you're asking us to make the same hard choice over again. I can either continue or drive my children to denton creek or let them walk to wilson.

642
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:50,040
we chose to send our daughter to wilson doing monolingual.

643
01:05:54,580 --> 01:05:54,580
at this point, I have four children who have taken some class at wilson.

644
01:05:59,530 --> 01:05:59,530
we've had nearly every teacher in both monolingual and dli.

645
01:06:05,190 --> 01:06:09,115
wilson is just a very special, unique atmosphere. My youngest child has literally grown up at wilson elementary. Everyone knows her.

646
01:06:15,325 --> 01:06:15,325
the teachers are amazing, they'll go above and beyond for every student,

647
01:06:19,810 --> 01:06:21,985
wilson rangers truly lead the way. We hope that you will not move the dli program from wilson. Thank you.

648
01:06:26,890 --> 01:06:30,040
>> I'll also go ahead and call sissy davila, [inaudible] and kristin johnson.

649
01:06:36,210 --> 01:06:39,130
>> hi, I'm [inaudible], and I live at 444 burns street, coppell.

650
01:06:42,750 --> 01:06:45,190
I love this community, and today, I stand before you as a concerned parent of a student at pinkerton elementary school.

651
01:06:49,765 --> 01:06:52,510
as someone who's grown up moving schools, I can tell you firsthand that while this decision might save some dollars in short term,

652
01:06:56,845 --> 01:07:00,145
it will have a lasting and profound impact on our child's future. Schools are the backbone of coppell economy.

653
01:07:02,575 --> 01:07:03,760
I've heard colleagues from other states talk about moving to coppell because of its school.

654
01:07:07,875 --> 01:07:09,255
it's not just one school, but the entire ecosystem of school that builds this reputation.

655
01:07:12,615 --> 01:07:14,460
closing any school will disrupt this delicate balance and we may never fully recover as a community.

656
01:07:17,555 --> 01:07:17,555
the economic impact of property values in coppell would be significant.

657
01:07:21,910 --> 01:07:24,310
I urge you not to view this just through the lens of saving dollars or balancing deficits.

658
01:07:26,785 --> 01:07:29,215
this is not a corporation. This is a community. It's not just about keeping one or two schools open,

659
01:07:31,735 --> 01:07:34,220
it's about preserving the fabric of our community. As parents, the happiness and well being of our children are our top priorities.

660
01:07:38,940 --> 01:07:42,680
it is what binds us together as community. If you take that away, there will be little left for outside world to admire about coppell.

661
01:07:46,270 --> 01:07:48,205
please, let's keep this community. >> time.

662
01:07:54,780 --> 01:07:54,780
>> hello, I'm [inaudible] and I live a 444 burns street, coppell.

663
01:08:00,865 --> 01:08:03,235
I'm a fourth grader at pinkerton elementary. I'm here to ask you from the bottom of my heart to keep all our schools open.

664
01:08:07,015 --> 01:08:09,265
this community means everything to me. I made so many friends here.

665
01:08:11,575 --> 01:08:14,695
friends I see at school, at play dates, and at of there. They're my besties and I can't imagine growing up with that.

666
01:08:18,325 --> 01:08:20,980
I know my friends in other schools feel the same way. If schools close, we might be separated,

667
01:08:23,305 --> 01:08:25,075
and that'll be really hard for us. Moving to a new school isn't just about new teachers and new friends,

668
01:08:28,660 --> 01:08:32,425
it's about losing the comfort of what we know. It messes with our sleep, makes us anxious, and takes away the joy of learn.

669
01:08:35,110 --> 01:08:37,825
we're just kids, we need stability and support. Please, help us stay in the schools we love.

670
01:08:40,420 --> 01:08:44,170
let us grow up together. Happy and secure. Thank you for listening. >> thank you.

671
01:08:47,220 --> 01:08:49,870
>> good evening, everyone. My name is tri mai, I'm in fourth grade.

672
01:08:53,365 --> 01:08:56,545
I live in 1356 wood duck drive. I want to say something.

673
01:08:58,315 --> 01:09:01,435
I don't want austin to be closed because, one, austin elementary is my first and only school I've been to.

674
01:09:05,665 --> 01:09:08,665
second, the school song says that austin elementary will stay as a reminder about the school when we grow.

675
01:09:15,355 --> 01:09:15,355
I would feel very sad if the school gets closed and a lot of people love the school.

676
01:09:22,435 --> 01:09:25,660
I love my teachers. I love my friends. I love my school.

677
01:09:27,535 --> 01:09:29,545
I'm an austin mustang, and my only request is please let austin elementary stay as it is, and stay open.

678
01:09:37,780 --> 01:09:37,780
again, I'm a proud austin mustang.

679
01:09:42,145 --> 01:09:44,920
>> thank you. Can I get your name again? >> tri mai.

680
01:09:46,780 --> 01:09:48,930
>> thank you. >> hi. My name is [inaudible].

681
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:54,850
I live in 549 parkway boulevard. I'm a wilson parent. This is hard.

682
01:09:59,700 --> 01:10:01,780
almost five years ago, my wife and I move from chicago looking for a better quality of life.

683
01:10:15,090 --> 01:10:18,520
we didn't have any family or friends that could help us decide where to settle but during the research,

684
01:10:21,385 --> 01:10:21,385
my wife found out that coppell isd had a dual language program,

685
01:10:26,665 --> 01:10:28,840
and that was the start of our texas life. My son started attending wilson,

686
01:10:30,685 --> 01:10:33,055
and immediately we fell in love with the school. My daughter is starting to attend wilson as well, and she loves it.

687
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,355
they love their friends, teachers. Mr. Cooper has done an amazing job creating the wilson community.

688
01:10:43,990 --> 01:10:46,570
wilson is a place where cultures mingle. If the dli programs move out of wilson,

689
01:10:49,615 --> 01:10:51,880
wilson will never be the same. This is why it's so important to keep all schools open.

690
01:10:55,090 --> 01:10:55,090
the majority of dli students in wilson will not transfer to denton creek.

691
01:10:59,845 --> 01:10:59,845
they will opt out dli and stay in wilson. Thanks.

692
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:06,520
>> thank you.

693
01:11:10,770 --> 01:11:11,870
>> thank

694
01:11:21,340 --> 01:11:21,340
you.

695
01:12:20,940 --> 01:12:22,040
>> [foreign] >> thank you. Go ahead and also call up [inaudible].

696
01:12:31,540 --> 01:12:33,505
this one is a tough one to terry vede. Look who got there.

697
01:12:35,815 --> 01:12:35,815
then is it ishan and I don't have a last name or ishu.

698
01:12:42,295 --> 01:12:45,835
perfect. Sorry. Thank you. >> hello. I'm kristin johnson.

699
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:49,615
I'm at 504 halifax lane, and I have some bummer news because like denton creek elementary,

700
01:12:55,740 --> 01:12:57,530
not understanding what was happening. Even as of today, many of people at wilson did

701
01:12:59,905 --> 01:13:02,470
not understand what was happening but luckily, we have a great bilingual community who speaks both spanish and english,

702
01:13:05,650 --> 01:13:09,310
and we were able to get the word out starting as soon as the meeting ended last week and make sure all parents there are aware of what was happening.

703
01:13:13,935 --> 01:13:13,935
as of today, we have 174 dli families who

704
01:13:20,010 --> 01:13:20,010
have said that they will most likely stay at wilson if dli is moved to dce,

705
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,960
which unfortunately, based on those numbers, means that your two scenarios of closing pinkerton and closing austin cannot

706
01:13:33,340 --> 01:13:33,340
happen because both of them required at least 80% of wilson dli to agree to move to dce.

707
01:13:39,055 --> 01:13:41,995
based on these numbers, those two scenarios won't work and so we request that you either go back to the committee and get

708
01:13:44,740 --> 01:13:44,740
some new options or maybe have a more culturally inclusive committee next

709
01:13:49,180 --> 01:13:49,180
time that can operate from real backs and updates from the community.

710
01:13:54,930 --> 01:13:57,820
I can share that petition with the board. I think I emailed everyone today.

711
01:13:59,350 --> 01:13:59,350
>> thank you.

712
01:14:03,390 --> 01:14:06,580
>> hi. My name is ashok [inaudible]. I'm a resident of 1707 e beltline, coppell, texas.

713
01:14:10,570 --> 01:14:13,135
that's a southern community. My kid is a kindergartner and a fourth grader,

714
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:20,965
both goes to austin elementary, and they love the school from day one. I don't want my kids to go to a school which is far

715
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:27,025
away from a community and separate them from his community friends, and the kids are distributed across the schools.

716
01:14:29,275 --> 01:14:31,975
our property tax are increasing 10% year on year, and where are my money going on?

717
01:14:35,290 --> 01:14:35,290
why is per head student allocation not increased based on the inflation.

718
01:14:40,435 --> 01:14:42,790
I want the board to wait until texas legislative funding in january to make a final decision.

719
01:14:46,030 --> 01:14:48,340
I don't understand why mockingbird elementary, which is the nearest school for our community is not considered for relocation.

720
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:56,200
all the schools which were considered are far away from our community, and there are a lot of traffic issues which we have

721
01:15:00,325 --> 01:15:00,325
been facing earlier when my kid was in a charter school.

722
01:15:05,620 --> 01:15:09,160
I want to thank everyone for giving this opportunity to speak here. Please reconsider austin elementary.

723
01:15:13,330 --> 01:15:13,330
>> thank you.

724
01:15:22,290 --> 01:15:24,895
>> hi, good morning, everyone. My name is [inaudible] and I'm studying fourth grade in austin elementary.

725
01:15:29,770 --> 01:15:33,415
I would like to fight for my school not to be closed. I'm so sad after hearing the news.

726
01:15:37,990 --> 01:15:41,875
I used to study at charter school, which is far away from my home,

727
01:15:44,440 --> 01:15:44,440
and my parents used to work hard for pickup and drop every day.

728
01:15:50,395 --> 01:15:50,395
after moving to austin elementary,

729
01:15:54,870 --> 01:15:54,870
I'm in a school near my home and I ride in a bus.

730
01:16:00,010 --> 01:16:03,340
I enjoy staying at austin elementary. I have all my friends and I'm worried as I am going to miss my friends.

731
01:16:09,250 --> 01:16:10,945
I love my teachers here, they're so kind and nice,

732
01:16:13,645 --> 01:16:13,645
and I'm worried I'm going to miss them.

733
01:16:17,850 --> 01:16:17,850
I want to stay with my community friends with whom I travel to school every day.

734
01:16:24,630 --> 01:16:27,460
I'm worried I'm going to miss them. Please save austin elementary.

735
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:30,760
thank you for the time. >> thank you. I fell asleep at the wheel.

736
01:16:34,795 --> 01:16:36,400
let's regroup here. We've got roseman [inaudible], ezekiel medina,

737
01:16:41,905 --> 01:16:44,560
benjamin waters, and then [inaudible].

738
01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:59,320
if you'll just bear in mind, our mics are pretty sensitive and they do pick up a lot of the background noise.

739
01:17:04,030 --> 01:17:06,400
sorry. You may go ahead. >> roseman [inaudible], I live at 729 south coppell road.

740
01:17:10,765 --> 01:17:14,050
we are a group of five concerned pinkerton parents who would like to voice our thoughts on 7.1.1.

741
01:17:17,185 --> 01:17:17,185
first and foremost, it makes zero sense to close any school in cisd because you are

742
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,420
worried about a projected deficit when this school district has never operated in an actual deficit.

743
01:17:29,215 --> 01:17:31,885
as a fiscally conservative school district, have a 77 million fund balance.

744
01:17:34,885 --> 01:17:34,885
why are we prematurely closing for what if scenarios that have yet to materialize?

745
01:17:40,030 --> 01:17:43,210
I would also like to remind the school board of its function. School boards are elected to make decisions about educational programs

746
01:17:46,690 --> 01:17:50,530
based on community needs, expectations, and values. Our community has spoken.

747
01:17:52,255 --> 01:17:55,090
the value of land and how much it sells for should not be put over the needs of students and their learning.

748
01:17:58,105 --> 01:18:01,150
cuts are never easy but if you are truly set on school closure in the name of efficiency, then be efficient.

749
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:08,740
for the same cost savings, you are considering three options, new tech and up-heave 323 students,

750
01:18:12,385 --> 01:18:16,030
close austin and up-heave hundreds more or close pinkerton and unnecessarily up-heave the most students. Thank you.

751
01:18:23,580 --> 01:18:27,340
>> easy kumdina, 750 east main street. For its price tag, $2.2 million new tech serves the fewest at 323 students.

752
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:36,430
it's projected decline, enrollment holds true. We spend over 10% of its budget transporting people

753
01:18:39,820 --> 01:18:39,820
from chs to ninth grade campus back to new tech.

754
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:48,025
that becomes sadly a viable option. But when we're looking at the numbers,

755
01:18:49,765 --> 01:18:52,795
if you're set on closing in elementary school, let's first carefully examine the data presented us at the last school board meeting.

756
01:18:56,875 --> 01:18:58,960
the projected schools facing decline elementary enrollment are the northern elementary campuses.

757
01:19:02,290 --> 01:19:04,750
you have lakeside, town center and wilson. There are all projected capacity at 60%,

758
01:19:07,540 --> 01:19:10,870
64%, and 75% respectively. Notably, pinkerton provides a pretty healthy projected 94% even after the consolidation.

759
01:19:19,285 --> 01:19:21,070
now, at this moment, I don't think pinkerton is our primary choice.

760
01:19:23,950 --> 01:19:26,890
if you must decide between pinkerton and austin, the most efficient way to distribute and fill in the gaps with

761
01:19:29,860 --> 01:19:29,860
the schools in the north is not closing down pinkerton at this time.

762
01:19:33,925 --> 01:19:37,345
austin attendance zones are geographically most proximate. >> northern schools facing [inaudible].

763
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:39,880
>> all right, sir. Thanks.

764
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:44,640
>> thank you. Also call up jen carl and

765
01:19:49,300 --> 01:19:49,300
luke rutledge to join the line. Sorry. Go ahead, benjamin.

766
01:19:54,265 --> 01:19:57,505
>> benjamin waters 252 east bethel road. Following up on zeke's remarks.

767
01:19:59,740 --> 01:20:03,265
closing pinkerton is even less efficient than closing austin. This ring around the rosy method moves pinkerton to wilson,

768
01:20:07,090 --> 01:20:10,900
wilson to don creek, and then uses the surplus to backfill lakeside, town center and cotton creek.

769
01:20:12,850 --> 01:20:12,850
the cost of moving the id ib program to wilson is underestimated,

770
01:20:17,515 --> 01:20:21,385
and therefore, the cost savings of closing pinkerton overestimated. Unspecified costs such as training additional ib teachers,

771
01:20:25,420 --> 01:20:25,420
time and money to transfer the ib certificate have not been included in the analysis.

772
01:20:30,745 --> 01:20:33,880
we're also concerned that building conditions and potential land value of the schools was considered in the rubric.

773
01:20:37,615 --> 01:20:40,510
in may 2023, our city just passed a $321 million bond package to improve all cisd campuses.

774
01:20:46,585 --> 01:20:46,585
then use building status as criteria to justify closing a school is

775
01:20:52,060 --> 01:20:54,760
misleading to voters and what the community voted to preserve just a few short months ago.

776
01:20:57,880 --> 01:20:57,880
there are also additional costs in closing pinkerton as well.

777
01:21:01,990 --> 01:21:01,990
dismantling and reforming an id program will lose the values and momentum.

778
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:07,240
>> thanks.

779
01:21:13,860 --> 01:21:17,065
>> good evening. My name is kami shi carla. I live at 444 bun state kopel,

780
01:21:19,450 --> 01:21:21,250
I'm a pinkerton parent. We argued that the expanded access to

781
01:21:23,875 --> 01:21:27,400
iba benefit touted last meeting is a false narrative. First, pinkerton has historically

782
01:21:29,470 --> 01:21:33,250
accommodated all students who have applied to the iba program. Second, option b necessitates 75% of current pinkerton population wunsu wilson.

783
01:21:39,355 --> 01:21:39,355
presumptively in order to qualify for a campus transfer of the ib certificate.

784
01:21:44,110 --> 01:21:44,110
the wilson dli program is dependent upon and t thrives in its current version

785
01:21:49,390 --> 01:21:49,390
primarily because of the spanish speaking golden triangle mobile home complex

786
01:21:53,605 --> 01:21:55,270
directly across the street. Ethical and equity issues of moving those students to

787
01:21:58,525 --> 01:21:58,525
another campus will be addressed by others tonight, but importantly,

788
01:22:02,605 --> 01:22:05,770
consolidating the dli program assumes that most of the 330 wilson dli students will move to denton creek,

789
01:22:09,790 --> 01:22:13,240
considering school loyalties limited means of the bilingual population and unwillingness to the denton creek, cms north caroline.

790
01:22:19,450 --> 01:22:22,780
we predict that many students zone by and monolingual will choose to stay with their home from school. Thank you.

791
01:22:26,995 --> 01:22:26,995
>> thank you. Jen I'm going to go ahead and call sushi yadi and alyssa kai.

792
01:22:35,190 --> 01:22:37,930
>> benz how born and raised in coppell, currently living at 484l.

793
01:22:40,390 --> 01:22:42,820
I'm going to continue where she left off. Especially when leaving the dli program

794
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:49,045
is bundled with moving to a different but excellent choice of ib, there may not be enough room to keep all of pinkerton's current 361 ib students.

795
01:22:53,950 --> 01:22:53,950
in conclusion, please remove pinkerton from the consideration of closure.

796
01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:00,310
of all the options still on the table, closing pinkerton will provide the least actualized cost savings,

797
01:23:04,150 --> 01:23:07,880
result in the least benefit and increased enrollment efficiency, and will impact the most number of students,

798
01:23:10,425 --> 01:23:13,320
will disrupt an entire school and two choice programs, and disrupt a school that I

799
01:23:17,130 --> 01:23:17,130
emphasize is not even involved in the projected elementary school enrollment shortage.

800
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:22,040
in the absence of any ulterior motives and if minimizing student impact and

801
01:23:26,530 --> 01:23:26,530
preserving educational quality is truly the priority of cisd with this decision,

802
01:23:31,510 --> 01:23:35,335
closing pinkerton is the least logical method on the table. We as a community, are we willing to bulldoze a part of

803
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:41,575
our history and to destroy our legacy school? Please think about this carefully. Thank you.

804
01:23:49,350 --> 01:23:51,745
>> good evening. Luke rutledge, 145 shady adale lane.

805
01:23:54,625 --> 01:23:54,625
today I want to advocate for austin elementary. Keep it open.

806
01:23:58,690 --> 01:23:58,690
austin is more than just a building or a line item of $2.6 million.

807
01:24:03,055 --> 01:24:05,110
it's definitely a cornerstone in a fabric, as you've heard this evening for many parents, for many kids.

808
01:24:09,325 --> 01:24:13,090
a lot of parents volunteering thousands of hours because of the spirit of the school and why people pay high property taxes.

809
01:24:16,990 --> 01:24:19,120
I urge you to play the long game. I would urge you that you utilize a $7 million of

810
01:24:21,700 --> 01:24:21,700
the $40 million surplus that would delay for at least two years.

811
01:24:25,765 --> 01:24:27,280
I would do three things. Number 1, time for a deep independent economic study.

812
01:24:31,135 --> 01:24:34,915
there will be impacts. People moving out, taxes, maybe value property going down.

813
01:24:37,345 --> 01:24:37,345
number 2, opportunity for a deeper community collaboration on solutions.

814
01:24:41,935 --> 01:24:45,400
number 3, give parents time to fight the legislator. My urge to you guys would be to play the long game on this one.

815
01:24:50,170 --> 01:24:50,170
thanks for your leadership collaboration.

816
01:24:55,830 --> 01:24:59,440
>> hi, my name is shiel wade 10556. >> now, go ahead.

817
01:25:00,505 --> 01:25:00,505
>> shiel wade, 10556 king fisher opel, texas.

818
01:25:05,455 --> 01:25:05,455
I want to say please save austin our elementary school.

819
01:25:09,550 --> 01:25:11,830
kids spend most of the days in school than with parents during weekdays and they have special bond with teachers.

820
01:25:14,590 --> 01:25:17,700
my daughter and my son, they're known but teachers know by the names because the small schools,

821
01:25:21,865 --> 01:25:21,865
better environment, because they're able to have that bond.

822
01:25:26,695 --> 01:25:29,290
elementary school is where kids are molded according to the type of environment around the kid.

823
01:25:32,185 --> 01:25:33,970
that is how they behave, they're disciplined, how they enjoy.

824
01:25:36,895 --> 01:25:39,460
when we merge the small schools a big schools, we not only create mass schools,

825
01:25:41,350 --> 01:25:42,880
but also break these bonds, create a lot of hassle for kids and and they lose their friends.

826
01:25:46,195 --> 01:25:46,195
kids are always starting the day at like 5:30 and schools start and buses come at 6:50.

827
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:54,700
with the new big schools and long distances, maybe the buses come at 6:00 in the morning.

828
01:25:56,695 --> 01:25:59,095
I don't know when they sleep, what they do. We're already paying enough taxes and everything.

829
01:26:01,300 --> 01:26:02,755
we have these backup funds. We should really think reconsider

830
01:26:05,650 --> 01:26:05,650
a better strategy and save our schools. Please save austin.

831
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:13,375
>> after alyssa, we've got prisana, gundgoni, then annabelle, victoria and jennifer kim.

832
01:26:18,190 --> 01:26:20,290
>> my name is alyssa chee, and I reside at 512 brier glen drive.

833
01:26:22,990 --> 01:26:24,700
I would like to start off with a note of gratitude to the school board for taking the time to hear from

834
01:26:27,130 --> 01:26:28,960
the community as you prepare to make some extremely difficult decisions in the coming weeks.

835
01:26:31,435 --> 01:26:34,360
the diligence displayed by the members of the board and seeking the best possible solution to address

836
01:26:36,190 --> 01:26:39,580
the budget deficit is deeply appreciated by all who are here tonight. I'm not here to try to persuade you to make one decision over

837
01:26:42,610 --> 01:26:46,135
another because I am too aware of my own bias to do so with good conscience. However, I am at least able to acknowledge how fortunate I am

838
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:52,330
to live in coppell and that ultimately we are all in this together. Thinking of the broader community in this way reminds me we are all on the same team.

839
01:26:56,740 --> 01:26:59,140
whatever the outcome of the upcoming proceedings, I am exceptionally grateful for the time my family has had at austin elementary.

840
01:27:02,860 --> 01:27:02,860
from the first friendly faces we see of the day of miss deborah and officer willis who

841
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:10,270
ensure the safe crossing of students and parents making the time honored trek by bike and foot to campus,

842
01:27:12,790 --> 01:27:15,910
to the front office staff members, miss branson and miss ortiz, who know me by name,

843
01:27:17,045 --> 01:27:20,430
not to mention the long list of incredible teachers and support staff. The people here are what makes austin so special to many.

844
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:26,515
I have made deep connections with other parents here, many who are part of our incredible pto,

845
01:27:28,975 --> 01:27:31,165
whose friendship I will continue to cherish. >> thank you.

846
01:27:35,370 --> 01:27:38,575
>> hello. My name is prisana gogoni, and I'm a resident of 107 39c drive copal texas.

847
01:27:43,555 --> 01:27:46,150
I am an austin parent, and I'm here to urge the board to ensure that

848
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:51,415
our children receive their basic right to quality education. It is deeply disheartening that we are considering

849
01:27:53,830 --> 01:27:56,950
closing schools instead of securing the rightful funds they deserve. As a homeowner, we are paying steadily increasing taxes.

850
01:27:59,920 --> 01:28:03,700
adjusting our lifestyles to ensure our children can access quality education. We lease our home for this very reason.

851
01:28:06,150 --> 01:28:09,420
yet here I am advocating for the children's basic right. I strongly encourage you to visit the campuses under consideration to

852
01:28:13,050 --> 01:28:13,050
close for closure to fully understand what we are taking away from these students.

853
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,550
for many students, school they currently attend is not just a place of education, but a community.

854
01:28:23,370 --> 01:28:25,290
sudden transition to a new environment, especially the one that is

855
01:28:28,515 --> 01:28:32,210
overcrowded could impact their emotional well being and academic performance. Please keep all schools open and focus on obtaining the necessary funds.

856
01:28:36,070 --> 01:28:36,070
as a community, we stand with you to support this effort. Thank you all.

857
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:43,180
>> then following the coons, we have aneil and I don't have a last name at 10623 canoe drive.

858
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:50,500
can you read that firstly? >> hello, I'm abo.

859
01:28:52,450 --> 01:28:55,210
I live at 20d richmond court, and I am here to talk about what we're going to do with the schools.

860
01:28:59,410 --> 01:29:01,660
I used to go to wilson and I loved it. There is one of my favorite schools I've ever been to even I've

861
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:07,855
only been to around three, including preschool. They have the best traditions I've ever seen and I do miss going there every day.

862
01:29:13,765 --> 01:29:17,755
now I'm in middle school, I realized how well my elementary school taught me in the middle school with all the new challenges that

863
01:29:21,580 --> 01:29:21,580
face me such as emotional challenges and physical challenges in cross country.

864
01:29:30,990 --> 01:29:30,990
I would be very sad if you closed down any school,

865
01:29:35,515 --> 01:29:35,515
even if it's not wilson and move the dual language program.

866
01:29:40,690 --> 01:29:40,690
I'd appreciate if you keep the school's dual language program in

867
01:29:44,860 --> 01:29:44,860
wilson because I do think it helps a lot. Thank you for having me.

868
01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:50,200
>> thank you.

869
01:29:55,050 --> 01:29:57,430
>> hi, I'm victoria. I live in richmond court.

870
01:29:59,995 --> 01:29:59,995
>> can you pull that?

871
01:30:06,210 --> 01:30:06,210
>> I am a fourth grader at wilson elementary school.

872
01:30:10,330 --> 01:30:10,330
I love going to wilson has lots of opportunities like theater,

873
01:30:14,905 --> 01:30:17,410
bl conto art club, and so much more. I love my teachers, english, spanish and specials.

874
01:30:21,085 --> 01:30:23,140
I love other teachers, and I like how close I can walk to school and I can walk home.

875
01:30:26,605 --> 01:30:26,605
I like being able to walk home with my friends and writing them over last minute.

876
01:30:32,290 --> 01:30:34,810
that's why I think wilson stay the way it is. I love to stay at wilson and

877
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:36,760
the dli program for my last year in elementary school. Thank you.

878
01:30:42,265 --> 01:30:42,265
>> hi, I'm jennifer 203 richmond court.

879
01:30:51,265 --> 01:30:54,685
please do not move the dual language program from wilson. The kids love their teachers and the school culture wilson has created.

880
01:30:59,005 --> 01:31:02,335
for us, personally, we're able to walk to and from school. Walking two school allows my daughter to burn energy,

881
01:31:05,905 --> 01:31:09,850
helping her better focus. Walking home has allowed us to create new friends, and there have been very impromptu play dates as we're walking home,

882
01:31:13,510 --> 01:31:17,170
like, hey, can such and such, come home with us? I look over at the pairs. See you. Also, and if we move to denton creek,

883
01:31:23,455 --> 01:31:23,455
we'll be stuck in the car pool traffic lane and all that will go away.

884
01:31:27,490 --> 01:31:28,765
then in addition to that, wilson has a lot of extra curriculars.

885
01:31:31,570 --> 01:31:34,690
one in particular is the musical theater program. Mr. Hanson opens it up for third to fifth grade,

886
01:31:39,235 --> 01:31:42,190
every student's allowed to participate and be in it, and he doesn't charge a fee.

887
01:31:44,650 --> 01:31:47,590
it's free. If you take these kids away, you're taking them from their ability to be in musical theater.

888
01:31:51,820 --> 01:31:53,860
also, as far as I know, the kids are still trying to catch up from the covid loss. Thank you.

889
01:31:58,555 --> 01:31:58,555
>> following, and forgive me because I can't read the writing on the first name,

890
01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:04,585
but looks like mawani, last name at 788 huntingdon street.

891
01:32:07,765 --> 01:32:07,765
followed by chitta tuari and garima chala.

892
01:32:13,980 --> 01:32:13,980
>> thank you. I'm parent of kindergarten at pinkerton.

893
01:32:18,250 --> 01:32:21,790
board members, I appreciate each of you as a pinkerton parent. I'm here to appeal to the board on behalf of all schools.

894
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:27,415
before you make a decision on school closing, give parents a chance to fight the state legislature.

895
01:32:30,175 --> 01:32:33,640
texas legislation resumes in less than four months. In january, please give parents a chance

896
01:32:36,970 --> 01:32:40,585
to come together and ask them for money for schools. Do not make a decision before having all the facts.

897
01:32:44,005 --> 01:32:46,105
what if they release the funding, then we won't have a deficient and you won't need to close any school.

898
01:32:49,870 --> 01:32:53,710
if they don't release the funds, you may need to close the schools. Don't make parents suffer through two consecutive years of school closes and rezoning.

899
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:00,715
do it once and do it in the right way. But not until you get all the facts.

900
01:33:03,310 --> 01:33:05,515
if you close any school now, there is no incentive for parents to advocate for school funding in austin texas.

901
01:33:11,455 --> 01:33:14,530
one more year, that's all I'm asking for. Let the parents unite and go to austin texas to make a stand for our public schools.

902
01:33:21,700 --> 01:33:23,590
please give us something to fight for. Please not take our schools away.

903
01:33:25,855 --> 01:33:25,855
>> thank you.

904
01:33:34,660 --> 01:33:37,190
>> hello. My name is angie mani. I reside at 788 huntingdon street, coppell, texas.

905
01:33:40,700 --> 01:33:43,370
thank you for the opportunity to speak with you today. I'm angie mani, and I serve as the student council president at new tech high at coppell.

906
01:33:47,495 --> 01:33:49,460
my experiences at new tech have shown me the profound impact a school can have on a student's life.

907
01:33:52,850 --> 01:33:54,620
over the past four years, new tech has become a second home to me.

908
01:33:56,870 --> 01:33:58,550
it is a place where I feel safe, supported, and encouraged to learn and grow.

909
01:34:01,310 --> 01:34:04,055
the environment has allowed me to harness my creativity, develop leadership skills, and gain the confidence to speak in settings like this today.

910
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:12,965
we understand that the district is facing issues with declining finances, but new tech learners specialize in solving real-world problems taught to us through pbl.

911
01:34:18,950 --> 01:34:18,950
last year alone, new tech student council raised over $14,000,

912
01:34:23,540 --> 01:34:23,540
most of which went to a charity organizations chosen by our senior class.

913
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:32,000
if necessary, the money could be reallocated to support our school. The capacities of our students and our staff is remarkable,

914
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:37,160
especially if it comes to supporting our school. Thank you for the time to hear my perspective today.

915
01:34:39,665 --> 01:34:41,450
>> thank you so much. I'm going to go ahead and call up serie sasha and then ishana vishwanath.

916
01:34:48,030 --> 01:34:50,650
>> hello. My name is shea tiwari. I'm resident of 1312 otter way,

917
01:34:52,870 --> 01:34:55,335
and I'm speaking here as an austin parent. Recently, I visited my friend in seattle.

918
01:34:58,550 --> 01:34:59,720
when I was talking to her, her first comment was, texas is the best for education.

919
01:35:02,975 --> 01:35:04,535
yes, we believe that. We believe coppell isd is a best for education.

920
01:35:07,070 --> 01:35:10,190
as that's the reason we decided to move to coppell isd. My daughter was going to chartered school,

921
01:35:12,305 --> 01:35:15,860
but we decided to move her to coppell isd in the middle school because we trust that coppell isd will give best for the education.

922
01:35:20,945 --> 01:35:20,945
my son is a first grader in austin and he tremendously enjoys his education.

923
01:35:26,390 --> 01:35:26,390
also, I want to emphasize on another point is,

924
01:35:31,340 --> 01:35:31,340
what covid did to us for his age group when he was two and now he's six.

925
01:35:36,815 --> 01:35:40,490
it was a tremendous effect that way, the personalized education, the smaller class size helps teacher to

926
01:35:42,830 --> 01:35:46,010
concentrate more on the students and it helps their growth. I really would urge you not to close austin elementary. Thank you.

927
01:35:53,710 --> 01:35:56,945
>> hi, all. My name is garima, and I live at 1321 bluegill bay road in south haven community.

928
01:36:00,905 --> 01:36:03,050
all of us are here to support our schools. Our schools are shutting down because of budget deficit and low enrollment rate.

929
01:36:06,830 --> 01:36:06,830
but question boils down to how much money does it save and is it worth it?

930
01:36:11,525 --> 01:36:13,745
because the cost that they're going to save our labor costs by cutting down transportation costs,

931
01:36:16,835 --> 01:36:18,650
staff layoffs, like teachers, principals, librarian, and nurse layoffs.

932
01:36:21,035 --> 01:36:21,035
shutting down austin elementary means losing a central hub for the entire neighborhood.

933
01:36:26,435 --> 01:36:30,260
right now, student to teacher ratio is 14:1 there. I believe higher class trends means reduction

934
01:36:34,010 --> 01:36:37,640
in attentiveness of students and also difficult for teachers to manage. Consolidation of schools cannot promise us quality education,

935
01:36:40,910 --> 01:36:43,235
experienced teachers, big and safe campus. We moved to coppell because we wanted our child to attend this top rated school,

936
01:36:48,830 --> 01:36:51,740
which is a four-minute drive from my house. Every year, we have been paying high taxes to be able to provide him quality education.

937
01:36:56,405 --> 01:36:59,525
but now all of these efforts go futile if he's not able to get a profound foundation in his elementary years.

938
01:37:03,275 --> 01:37:06,830
school closure decisions are never easy. Thank you. It's all your responsibility to make a responsible decision. Thank you.

939
01:37:11,555 --> 01:37:12,995
>> thank you. >> good evening, everyone.

940
01:37:17,510 --> 01:37:20,225
shrish dasa, 10651 kingfisher road. My son goes to austin elementary,

941
01:37:22,190 --> 01:37:24,215
third grade, and he's a proud mustang. We moved to coppell isd area last year,

942
01:37:26,900 --> 01:37:29,840
and I think we have made the best decision. He has flourished a lot.

943
01:37:31,535 --> 01:37:33,920
he has improved a lot. I see the difference in him. He loves going to austin elementary.

944
01:37:36,830 --> 01:37:36,830
the other thing is the convenience that austin provides with the close proximity to home.

945
01:37:41,210 --> 01:37:44,600
so if he wants to learn swimming, or basketball, or tennis, that gives us time to take him to the activities,

946
01:37:49,340 --> 01:37:53,270
but moving him from austin to some other school would take away all of that and I would hate my son being sad or something. Thank you.

947
01:37:58,085 --> 01:37:58,085
>> I'm also going to go ahead and call up kartik gopisetti,

948
01:38:02,465 --> 01:38:02,465
katan patel, rona dalman, and sierra ford.

949
01:38:07,210 --> 01:38:10,250
>> good evening, all. My name is ishana vishwanath, student at new tech high school,

950
01:38:11,510 --> 01:38:14,000
and I live in south haven. As a current sophomore, I can see the impact that our smaller school environment has on kids,

951
01:38:17,285 --> 01:38:19,550
forming a unique and strong culture where students empathetically bond with each other and ensure mutual success.

952
01:38:22,595 --> 01:38:26,090
students with a variety of talents and abilities benefit from a supportive, encouraging environment catered to their growth.

953
01:38:28,325 --> 01:38:30,380
we are also an honors campus with project-based learning that develops skills beyond study,

954
01:38:33,335 --> 01:38:36,890
allowing us to network, thrive in adulthood with confidence. I can confidently say our extracurriculars,

955
01:38:39,260 --> 01:38:43,225
model un, deca, and award-winning production are powerfully managed, changing the course of lives.

956
01:38:44,290 --> 01:38:47,590
to remove our choice, moving us to chs' overwhelming environment, ignores the larger issue at hand.

957
01:38:49,900 --> 01:38:52,300
do not reduce us to numbers or ignore the calls from parents who have moved here for their children's education.

958
01:38:54,670 --> 01:38:58,450
please don't overlook us as you make your difficult choice. Thank you very much. >> thank you. Then kartik gopisetti.

959
01:39:03,445 --> 01:39:05,065
if you're here, come on down. Katan patel, rona.

960
01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:07,960
you all can just line up just behind the podium, if you want.

961
01:39:14,290 --> 01:39:14,290
then sierra ford will be after rona.

962
01:39:21,250 --> 01:39:21,250
go ahead. I'll catch up if we're out of order.

963
01:39:28,330 --> 01:39:28,330
>> thank you. My name is katan patel, 1301 otter way.

964
01:39:33,425 --> 01:39:33,425
I am a proud parent of two students at austin elementary.

965
01:39:37,610 --> 01:39:40,190
first of all, I don't envy your decision, but moreover, I don't understand your decision.

966
01:39:43,940 --> 01:39:43,940
I am a numbers person and I look at the enrollments at austin elementary at 496.

967
01:39:49,985 --> 01:39:49,985
it is the fifth highest enrollment within the school district.

968
01:39:54,065 --> 01:39:54,065
if you're saying you're trying to adjust schools based on low enrollment,

969
01:39:59,225 --> 01:40:02,150
I don't know why you would cut out in the middle. That doesn't make sense.

970
01:40:03,425 --> 01:40:06,380
logistically, you're creating more of a challenge for yourself. Same thing with wilson.

971
01:40:07,580 --> 01:40:10,070
it's at 482. It's number six on your list. The logic is perplexing and I don't get it.

972
01:40:13,070 --> 01:40:15,320
I do understand you have hard choices to make, but I feel like there's something else related to these numbers or your logic.

973
01:40:21,335 --> 01:40:24,410
whatever the decisioning is, I don't understand. It's also concerning that the schools that are being

974
01:40:27,605 --> 01:40:27,605
targeted seem to be in the southwest sector and nowhere else.

975
01:40:32,615 --> 01:40:35,030
I don't understand, again, if everything was on the table. Thank you.

976
01:40:39,470 --> 01:40:39,470
>> thank you.

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01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:52,775
>> good evening. I'm rona dalman. I live at 208 olympia lane.

978
01:40:55,775 --> 01:40:55,775
our family was reluctantly looking for alternative options outside of csid for both of

979
01:41:02,270 --> 01:41:05,030
my younger sons before we found pinkerton with the ib program and when the other one was accepted to the wilson dli program.

980
01:41:09,860 --> 01:41:13,730
moving the dli program to denton creek far from the growing population in the south will make it inaccessible for many,

981
01:41:17,300 --> 01:41:19,895
potentially jeopardizing its continuation. Losing this unique offering would remove a key attraction to

982
01:41:23,330 --> 01:41:27,260
the district and important financial funding from the state. We should consider some alternative options apart from closures.

983
01:41:32,855 --> 01:41:36,170
I believe open enrollment could help bring in more students and funding as well as lobbying the legislature if we are giving time to do so.

984
01:41:40,040 --> 01:41:42,980
additionally, we should investigate why some families who are still living in coppell are leaving the school district.

985
01:41:46,205 --> 01:41:50,090
maybe provide exit surveys to those families and find out the reasons for their leaving and then address those.

986
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:57,890
I urge you to consider these impacts and explore creative solutions that support both our current students and future growth. Thank you.

987
01:42:08,380 --> 01:42:11,375
>> hello. My name is sierra ford. I live at 800 powell drive. Thank you for the floor.

988
01:42:16,625 --> 01:42:16,625
thank you for the time and skills you give to your, our community.

989
01:42:20,660 --> 01:42:22,760
you've all been entrusted with leading our community's education and the opportunities we're afforded by this education.

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01:42:28,220 --> 01:42:31,910
coppell has a diverse population. It also has a high cost of living and many students with the means to seek alternative education,

991
01:42:35,885 --> 01:42:38,135
which is pretty exceptional. As a parent who was lost in a public school system not as affluent as this one,

992
01:42:44,030 --> 01:42:47,330
I had the resolve to home school until I moved here. Pinkerton returned my faith that the public school system is worth fighting for,

993
01:42:51,725 --> 01:42:51,725
because it can be unique with choice programming thanks to dedicated public service.

994
01:42:56,300 --> 01:42:56,300
you could all be private administration or on private school boards,

995
01:43:00,530 --> 01:43:03,110
but you know education should be public. As dr. Caviness pointed out with the voucher legislation that we've all been fighting,

996
01:43:08,450 --> 01:43:08,450
maybe we need to also play a longer game because there have been things being set

997
01:43:14,030 --> 01:43:14,030
up that maybe not all of us knew how to lobby against. Thank you for your time.

998
01:43:21,050 --> 01:43:21,050
>> thank you, sierra. I want to make sure.

999
01:43:25,220 --> 01:43:25,220
I know there was a couple of names I called and I don't think anybody came for that.

1000
01:43:29,420 --> 01:43:32,255
I just want to make sure if you signed up to speak, and you missed your spot or I missed you.

1001
01:43:34,850 --> 01:43:34,850
jazmetha tumala, kartik gopisetti.

1002
01:43:40,115 --> 01:43:40,115
I think I'm saying it right. It's 10558 duckling drive.

1003
01:43:45,860 --> 01:43:45,860
then p. Jeanie christian at 1365 otter way.

1004
01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:52,640
if they're in the lobby, I'll just I'll give a second in case.

1005
01:43:57,500 --> 01:43:57,500
I don't want to miss anybody that did make it here to sign up.

1006
01:44:02,015 --> 01:44:02,015
anybody in here who signed up that I didn't call? Are we all good?

1007
01:44:24,340 --> 01:44:24,340
>> I'm assuming that mrs. Snowden left to go check and see.

1008
01:44:29,570 --> 01:44:32,870
while mrs. Snowden is checking the lobby to see if there was anybody that was omitted from open forum,

1009
01:44:36,530 --> 01:44:38,900
I just want to thank all of the community members, our students, our parents, any staff members that spoke tonight.

1010
01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:42,200
I do appreciate you all sharing your thoughts and your feelings.

1011
01:44:46,370 --> 01:44:48,320
these are difficult decisions for all of us, and I know it takes a lot to get up in front of a group and speak.

1012
01:44:51,905 --> 01:44:55,420
are any of these individuals? >> well, then that will conclude our open forum session.

1013
01:44:59,750 --> 01:45:03,125
again, as dr. Hunt was saying, thank you all for your kindness and being gracious to everybody here. Now is your opportunity.

1014
01:45:09,380 --> 01:45:12,440
we'll make this the interactive part. If you want to stretch, clap your hands, do something real quick.

1015
01:45:13,910 --> 01:45:13,910
we're going to transition right on into our work session.

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01:45:18,365 --> 01:45:22,190
but now thank all the kids for being here and speaking too. Thank, you all. [applause] with that,

1017
01:45:30,110 --> 01:45:32,990
as we're transitioning in and out, we'll move right into our work session,

1018
01:45:35,240 --> 01:45:35,240
which is a continuation of the discussion that we started last week,

1019
01:45:40,295 --> 01:45:44,000
which is our 7.11, our strategic plan implementation and our facility evaluation recommendations.

1020
01:45:47,060 --> 01:45:50,255
with that, dr. Hunt, I will turn it over to you. >> I hope that people did not take mr.

1021
01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:56,705
caviness' comments about get up and stretch as get up and leave, because we want you to stay here and listen,

1022
01:45:58,640 --> 01:45:58,640
because I know that a lot of the questions that you all had in open forum were

1023
01:46:02,735 --> 01:46:05,030
things that were shared last week and also some of those questions are going to be answered tonight.

1024
01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:10,970
I also again want to reiterate my gratitude for you all for sharing your thoughts and your feelings.

1025
01:46:14,330 --> 01:46:18,110
these are very emotional decisions. They are very tough on all of us. I just think it's important for us to stay engaged as a community.

1026
01:46:21,170 --> 01:46:22,775
that's one of our core values. It's always nice to put a name with the face too,

1027
01:46:25,310 --> 01:46:28,820
because many of you have been sending emails, we've received a lot, and some of you I knew already for some of the emails,

1028
01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:35,270
but some of you I got to meet tonight through your voices. Thank you for that, and I know the board members appreciate that as well.

1029
01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:41,060
our focus tonight is a continuation of the work that we've been doing actually for months,

1030
01:46:43,820 --> 01:46:47,240
but specifically what was shared last monday regarding our building tomorrow together work,

1031
01:46:52,685 --> 01:46:56,510
and the work of the 711 action team that was created from the last october strategic plan work,

1032
01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:04,940
and some of that will be reviewed tonight. As we said last week, and we'll reiterate tonight,

1033
01:47:06,245 --> 01:47:08,480
our priority focus is to ensure that we are taking care of the needs of all of our students,

1034
01:47:10,865 --> 01:47:12,710
our employees, and our families. These are difficult decisions and changing schools or

1035
01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:19,910
moving schools or anything related to a school is very, very hard. We take our children and our money both very seriously.

1036
01:47:24,110 --> 01:47:26,750
those are two topics that people have a lot of opinions about, and so we want to make sure that we're taking care of our students,

1037
01:47:29,675 --> 01:47:29,675
our families, and our cisd instructional family as well.

1038
01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:35,420
we want to make sure that our teachers and staff are being taken care of through this process as well.

1039
01:47:39,320 --> 01:47:39,320
we do have several of our team members that will be sharing information tonight.

1040
01:47:44,435 --> 01:47:46,790
as we transition to the next slide, I want to once again reiterate our core values of great teaching,

1041
01:47:50,765 --> 01:47:53,840
relationships, redefining, success, and engagement. Engagement is one of our core values.

1042
01:47:55,880 --> 01:47:58,100
it's important that we're engaging with the community. Some of you have been on this journey with us for several years.

1043
01:48:01,190 --> 01:48:03,410
this is really not a new topic for us, but for the last few months,

1044
01:48:06,050 --> 01:48:06,050
and our focus really has been on what our next steps will be.

1045
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:13,280
I know that some of you have really plugged in, and so thank you again for being involved in this process.

1046
01:48:17,650 --> 01:48:20,720
this work is aligned to our strategic design work and our strategic planning work, like I said,

1047
01:48:24,770 --> 01:48:28,040
which we really focused on last october, but really is the foundation that began

1048
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:34,265
eight years ago as my first year as superintendent in this district. We're focusing on the long term goals of cisd,

1049
01:48:38,105 --> 01:48:40,820
looking at a long term plan, our 2030 plan, and part of that does have to do with all of our facilities as we

1050
01:48:44,030 --> 01:48:47,870
review those and looked at efficiencies and ways that we can move forward. It's also aligned with our community-based accountability system,

1051
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:50,600
or cvas, we have seven pillars that are connected to this work as well.

1052
01:48:56,650 --> 01:48:59,540
as we look at our work tonight, I'm going to ask ms. Angela brown,

1053
01:49:01,460 --> 01:49:02,990
our chief communications officer, to come forward and review budget priorities,

1054
01:49:05,720 --> 01:49:08,585
and take us through the next step of our work tonight. >> good evening. I am angela brown.

1055
01:49:10,415 --> 01:49:12,650
I'm the district's chief communications officer, and we'll be sharing more about what we began sharing last week.

1056
01:49:18,830 --> 01:49:21,725
as the district began this work, you, the board, established these priorities in 22/23.

1057
01:49:24,890 --> 01:49:28,595
you reaffirmed them in february of 2024. As we continue to work through these difficult conversations tonight,

1058
01:49:32,150 --> 01:49:35,690
let's keep our core values, as dr. Hunt shared, our strategic plan, and these budget priorities at the forefront of our minds in our discussion.

1059
01:49:40,720 --> 01:49:44,720
>> as a reminder, these are the options that are still on the table. The option of closing both pinkerton and austin was

1060
01:49:47,450 --> 01:49:47,450
removed by the board from those still being considered.

1061
01:49:51,730 --> 01:49:51,730
it was removed last week at the september 9th board meeting.

1062
01:49:56,345 --> 01:49:58,940
there has been one adjustment to the options based on current projections and working with our demographer.

1063
01:50:01,595 --> 01:50:03,755
the austin consolidation option, would include students being zoned to town center,

1064
01:50:06,350 --> 01:50:06,350
wilson, pinkerton, lakeside, and also mockingbird.

1065
01:50:10,415 --> 01:50:14,315
this adjustment allows for efficient utilization of our campuses, neighborhood schools, and walkability.

1066
01:50:16,715 --> 01:50:20,330
the options are consolidate austin with town center, wilson, pinkerton, lakeside, and mockingbird.

1067
01:50:22,940 --> 01:50:22,940
this plan includes consolidating the austin campus with campuses in close proximity,

1068
01:50:28,250 --> 01:50:30,350
moving the dual language immersion program and the bilingual pre-k program to denton creek elementary,

1069
01:50:33,335 --> 01:50:36,500
leveling the pre-k enrollment district wide, adjusting attendance zones at campuses including town center, lakeside, wilson,

1070
01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:43,025
mockingbird and denton creek, and that would have a net cost savings of $2.6 million.

1071
01:50:46,580 --> 01:50:46,580
the next option is to consolidate pinkerton with wilson and austin.

1072
01:50:50,930 --> 01:50:54,720
this plan includes moving the international baccalaureate program to wilson, moving the dual language immersion program and bilingual pre-k programs to denton creek,

1073
01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:02,915
leveling the pre-k enrollment district wide, and adjusting attendance zones,

1074
01:51:05,450 --> 01:51:08,600
including denton creek, the town center, cottonwood creek, and lakeside based on enrollment,

1075
01:51:10,370 --> 01:51:12,950
with a net cost savings of 2.1 million. The next option is to consolidate new tech with

1076
01:51:16,385 --> 01:51:16,385
coppell high school and coppell high school ninth grade center.

1077
01:51:20,555 --> 01:51:20,555
this plan includes consolidating the new tech students into chs and chs 9,

1078
01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:28,025
with a net cost savings of 2.1 million. The next option is a consolidation of the dual language immersion program to one campus.

1079
01:51:32,480 --> 01:51:32,480
this option includes consolidating dli and the bilingual pre-k program into

1080
01:51:36,920 --> 01:51:36,920
denton creek elementary campus with the net cost savings of $288,000.

1081
01:51:42,125 --> 01:51:44,990
the final option is leveling our pre-k program, which includes leveling enrollment across the district for efficiency and class sizes,

1082
01:51:51,080 --> 01:51:52,880
neighborhood schools of students. This plan has no substantial financial cost savings,

1083
01:51:55,220 --> 01:51:57,990
but does increase efficiency. >> last week, the board asked us for more information about our fund balance,

1084
01:52:02,600 --> 01:52:05,300
and so some of the questions that y'all had last week, and also input that we've received from the community are

1085
01:52:07,850 --> 01:52:10,985
where we've based some of our updates on these slides. Our chief financial officer,

1086
01:52:12,845 --> 01:52:16,025
ms. Diana sircar is going to talk to us more about the fund balance. >> good evening. Thank you, dr. Hunt. Good evening, board.

1087
01:52:19,130 --> 01:52:20,780
my name is diana sircar, and I serve as the chief financial officer.

1088
01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:25,610
what is fund balance? The fund balance grows when the district receives more revenue in than it spends,

1089
01:52:30,965 --> 01:52:30,965
and the fund balance declines when the district spends more than it receives in revenue.

1090
01:52:36,770 --> 01:52:39,905
the fund balance is not really like a savings account, it's more like a checking account.

1091
01:52:42,005 --> 01:52:45,650
funds are spent out of that account all year long, and the funds that come in are tax revenues.

1092
01:52:49,955 --> 01:52:53,180
coppell isd relies on tax revenue collections to provide

1093
01:52:55,700 --> 01:52:58,850
the majority of the revenue for the entire school year. Business and residential tax payments are not due until january 31st.

1094
01:53:04,475 --> 01:53:04,475
the district must have a fund balance of approximately four months of

1095
01:53:09,020 --> 01:53:09,020
expenditures in order to have enough cash on hand to pay for all of its teachers,

1096
01:53:14,450 --> 01:53:14,450
staff, and other operating expenditures from september through december.

1097
01:53:20,255 --> 01:53:23,660
the metric that's used to measure fund balance is fund balance as a percent of total expenditures.

1098
01:53:27,350 --> 01:53:30,470
as the district's total expenditures grow, the amount of dollars in fund balance needs to grow to keep pace.

1099
01:53:34,520 --> 01:53:34,520
let's examine the district's fund balance as a percent of total expenditures.

1100
01:53:39,725 --> 01:53:42,980
on this slide, you'll see the blue bars represent the fund balance as a percent of total expenditures for each year.

1101
01:53:47,120 --> 01:53:50,375
you can see that prior to 2011, the district did not have a healthy fund balance.

1102
01:53:52,850 --> 01:53:52,850
it took a number of years to build up the fund balance over 40%.

1103
01:53:57,965 --> 01:53:57,965
we'll talk about why a minimum fund balance of 40% is important on the next slide.

1104
01:54:03,095 --> 01:54:03,095
you can see that the district's fund balance has been as high as around 50/51% in 2014,

1105
01:54:09,990 --> 01:54:09,990
and despite the actual dollars increasing in the fund balance,

1106
01:54:15,100 --> 01:54:18,475
the fund balance is a percent of total expenditures that had remained in relatively the same range since 2012.

1107
01:54:23,220 --> 01:54:26,030
as the district's expenditures have increased, the fund balance has been maintained to support these expenditures.

1108
01:54:30,140 --> 01:54:33,020
note that as of '22/'23, the fund balance has dropped closer to the 40% line.

1109
01:54:36,755 --> 01:54:36,755
fund balance provides districts with the flexibility to manage cash.

1110
01:54:42,410 --> 01:54:44,870
it is also used to handle emergencies, such as expenses incurred when the district faces events such as the 2021 winter storm,

1111
01:54:50,210 --> 01:54:53,430
or even damage from hailstorms. The district also needs cash to pay

1112
01:54:56,860 --> 01:55:00,535
upfront for all expenditures under the federal grants, as districts must apply for

1113
01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:02,560
reimbursement to those grants after the expenses are incurred.

1114
01:55:07,515 --> 01:55:09,860
the district pays for all expenditures for certain technology infrastructure that is later reimbursed by the federal government.

1115
01:55:14,300 --> 01:55:16,490
there are also other amounts that the district reserves in cash to comply with federal grants.

1116
01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:21,040
this slide shows the district's fund balance in four categories.

1117
01:55:27,185 --> 01:55:30,860
the blue section of the bar represents the amount of cash that the texas education agency recommends the district have on hand,

1118
01:55:35,690 --> 01:55:35,690
which would allow the district to cover at least two-and-a-half months of expenditures.

1119
01:55:41,315 --> 01:55:45,140
tea also monitors the district's fund balance, and if there's a decline of 25% over three years,

1120
01:55:49,160 --> 01:55:49,160
they believe it indicates financial instability.

1121
01:55:53,285 --> 01:55:53,285
the red section of the bar indicates the fund balance needed on top of the tea

1122
01:55:58,640 --> 01:55:58,640
recommended minimum that provides four months of operating expenditures.

1123
01:56:03,740 --> 01:56:06,530
this is the minimum amount of cash needed between september and december to pay employees and pay operating costs.

1124
01:56:11,990 --> 01:56:11,990
the yellow section of the bar on top of the red and blue bars,

1125
01:56:16,220 --> 01:56:19,940
is the minimum amount that our financial advisor indicates is necessary to maintain the district's credit rating of aa+.

1126
01:56:24,305 --> 01:56:24,305
it is about four-and-a-half months of total expenditures.

1127
01:56:28,955 --> 01:56:31,100
credit ratings are important, because a high credit rating helps to keep interest rates

1128
01:56:33,650 --> 01:56:36,785
down on the bonds that the district issues. Lower credit ratings end up costing all taxpayers more,

1129
01:56:40,820 --> 01:56:43,310
because the interest rates on the bonds are higher. These increased costs to taxpayers are long-term costs,

1130
01:56:48,665 --> 01:56:52,055
since bonds are repaid over 30 years. Credit ratings are determined by a number of factors,

1131
01:56:54,890 --> 01:56:58,205
but one extremely important factor is fund balance. Credit rating agencies question any drawdown of fund balance,

1132
01:57:01,790 --> 01:57:04,490
but are more understanding of one time draws, such as for capital items,

1133
01:57:06,230 --> 01:57:09,005
or to address emergencies like hailstorms. The agencies are critical if a fund balance is drawn down to offset operating deficits.

1134
01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:17,780
they get concerned that the district is using fund balance to pay for everyday expenditures,

1135
01:57:20,225 --> 01:57:20,225
and, it may be indicative of a trend of operating deficits.

1136
01:57:24,380 --> 01:57:27,260
for example, the district's credit rating was lower in 2007 when there was not enough fund balance,

1137
01:57:31,010 --> 01:57:34,235
and improved to aa+ around 2014, once the fund balance grew to exceed 40% of total expenditure.

1138
01:57:38,390 --> 01:57:38,390
finally, the green section of the bar indicates

1139
01:57:42,440 --> 01:57:42,440
the amount of fund balance the district has over the minimum 40%.

1140
01:57:46,985 --> 01:57:49,040
you can see that prior to 2011, the district didn't have a strong fund balance.

1141
01:57:51,380 --> 01:57:51,380
in fact, in some of those years,

1142
01:57:56,525 --> 01:57:56,525
it barely had enough to meet minimum cash flow needs.

1143
01:58:01,010 --> 01:58:04,745
it has taken years to build up that fund balance. The cfo, prior to me,

1144
01:58:07,025 --> 01:58:09,470
started a process to build up fund balance, to provide more cash flexibility for the district,

1145
01:58:12,905 --> 01:58:15,890
to increase the district's credit rating, and to assure the financial stability of the district.

1146
01:58:19,010 --> 01:58:21,620
looking at the actual dollars needed to meet the various minimums to operate the district,

1147
01:58:24,395 --> 01:58:26,720
and to maintain the credit rating, the district has only about $7 million remaining in the green fund balance.

1148
01:58:34,840 --> 01:58:34,840
the district fiscal year runs from september 1st to august 31st.

1149
01:58:41,135 --> 01:58:45,080
this means that the financials for the '23/'24 school year are undergoing year end accounting entries

1150
01:58:46,970 --> 01:58:49,115
and being prepared for the independent auditor, to examine and make final adjustments.

1151
01:58:51,365 --> 01:58:54,920
as of today, the district anticipates realizing a $6.8 million deficit for the 2023/'24 fiscal year.

1152
01:59:00,275 --> 01:59:04,145
this will reduce the fund balance by $6.8 million. Remember that that final number could adjust based upon any auditor adjustments.

1153
01:59:11,615 --> 01:59:15,200
the problem with realizing one deficit, is that, the fund balance starts getting impacted very

1154
01:59:17,840 --> 01:59:21,320
quickly if expenditures are not reduced immediately. Let's look at that potential impact.

1155
01:59:26,050 --> 01:59:29,690
the district has reduced many budgeted expenditures, which will be covered in a later slide.

1156
01:59:31,640 --> 01:59:33,755
but based upon these reductions, and the projected enrollment as of the spring of 2024,

1157
01:59:37,445 --> 01:59:41,075
the projection for the fund balance is indicated on this slide. Recognize that enrollment is currently 176

1158
01:59:45,230 --> 01:59:45,230
students less than we budgeted for the '24/'25 school year.

1159
01:59:50,060 --> 01:59:52,805
these projections are a bit optimistic. The projection includes $2.5 million in expenditure savings each year,

1160
01:59:58,895 --> 02:00:02,015
and also includes the $2.4 million in revenue if the vader election is passed in november,

1161
02:00:05,480 --> 02:00:08,525
as that will be recurring revenue each year. The projection includes a 3% cost of living adjustment for teachers and staff,

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and 3% in our contracted services such as our bus transportation.

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all other expenditure categories have no increase. You can see that by the end of the current school year '24/'25,

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the district will not have the full 40% that is recommended to retain

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the aa+ credit rating indicated by that orange bar below the $0 line.

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by the end of '26/'27, the district will not meet the minimum required cash flow,

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as indicated by the orange and the teal bars below that $0 line.

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by the end of '27/'28, the district will not have the tea recommended minimum.

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02:00:53,960 --> 02:00:53,960
in this scenario, fund balance will have reduced by over 25% by the end of 2025/'26.

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02:01:01,115 --> 02:01:01,115
remember that the texas education agency considers a 25% reduction in fund balance,

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over three years as an indication of financial instability. In addition, credit rating agencies would consider the district's credit rating,

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costing taxpayers more to issue the bonds that have been approved.

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02:01:20,480 --> 02:01:23,810
credit ratings don't take long to go down, but it can take years to improve credit ratings.

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the long term implications of a reduction in credit ratings would cost cisd taxpayers for many years.

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the district's fund balance has provided some ability for the major budget decisions facing the board,

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to be thoughtfully considered and carried out. But the time for action is now.

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the district will use nearly seven million of fund balance due to the realized deficit from '23/'24.

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02:01:59,585 --> 02:02:01,985
the district has reduced expenditures, but even with the possible $2.4 million in funds from the vader,

1179
02:02:06,215 --> 02:02:06,215
the district still has significant work to do to reduce overall expenses.

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by making decisions that provide sustainable reductions in expenses,

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02:02:16,010 --> 02:02:16,010
the board can help further erosion of the fund balance.

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02:02:20,945 --> 02:02:24,260
the previous slide showed the potential reduction of fund balance if further expense reductions are not made.

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02:02:27,335 --> 02:02:30,860
this slide details some of the potential impacts. These are impacts that have been seen in

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02:02:33,350 --> 02:02:37,070
coppell isd when the district had little fund balance, or have been experienced recently

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02:02:39,650 --> 02:02:42,440
in other districts that did not have a strong fund balance, and are facing some of the same challenges as coppell isd.

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02:02:49,150 --> 02:02:52,190
credit rating agencies will credit the $7 million negative impact of fund balance from '23/'24.

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02:02:57,695 --> 02:02:57,695
if the district has a solid plan to reduce expenditures,

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02:03:01,835 --> 02:03:04,595
we may be able to retain the strong rating. If we do not have a strong plan for significant sustainable reductions and expenditures,

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they will likely take action to reduce the rating. As mentioned earlier, credit rating, agencies

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understand the emergency use of fund balance, but using it to cover recurring operating expenses is not in their opinion an emergency.

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in addition, if the district takes 13 million more out of the fund balance between this school year and the '25/'26 school year,

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the tea will consider the district in a position of financial risk.

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texas school funding is determined by the texas legislature,

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and is based on the average daily attendance of enrolled students. One often anticipates the legislative cycle

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in hopes of improved funding for texas schools. However, we cannot pin our hopes that the legislator will provide

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enough funding to address the significant issues facing texas schools.

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the 89th legislative session will be held in 2025.

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typically, sessions last through the summer, and sometimes special sessions are added onto the original session to continue the work.

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new legislation takes time to be implemented. Some law changes are relatively simple to interpret and to implement,

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and yet others take much longer. For example, it took over 18 months for the texas education agency to interpret

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and implement all of the changes in school funding that came from the 86th legislative session.

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02:04:38,795 --> 02:04:41,390
while the legislative session is going on, the district creates a budget for the next school year,

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02:04:43,955 --> 02:04:46,040
and while these are happening concurrently, the district has to be sure that the legislation

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is passed prior to including it in the budget. For example, during the 88th session,

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that was the last session we just finished, there was significant proposed legislation to increase or update school funding.

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02:05:01,850 --> 02:05:05,180
however, very little legislation was actually passed, so districts did not see much additional funding.

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02:05:08,360 --> 02:05:10,475
in the spring of each year, it's common for school districts to offer

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returning teachers a contract for the next school year. This means that major decisions that impact staffing must

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be made in the fall and winter of the prior school year.

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the district's budget must be adopted in august. The budget is typically determined and adopted

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before the result of any changes in the law. Often, the budget needs to be amended during

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the school year if there are changes in the law.

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>> the basic allotment of $6,160 per student has not been increased since 2019.

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we've discussed the impact of cumulative inflation and the need to provide our teachers and staff with livable wages.

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during the last legislative session in 2023, there were bills to increase the basic allotment.

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some were for $50, $90 or $140, but none of them passed.

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02:06:08,305 --> 02:06:11,485
in constant dollars accounting for inflation, the basic allotment would need to increase by $1,200-1,400 to give

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school districts the same buying power that they had after a major change in school funding that occurred in 2019/20.

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02:06:23,290 --> 02:06:23,290
it takes approximately $3 million to meet

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the board's priority of providing teachers and staff with a cost of living increase.

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02:06:33,895 --> 02:06:36,010
based on the current staffing, the basic allotment would need to increase by approximately $200

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02:06:40,735 --> 02:06:40,735
each year for coppell isd to continue to provide that cost of living increase.

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however, a $200 increase in the basic allotment would not address

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the entire deficit projected for the 2024/25 school year.

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>> last week, you all asked us to recap some of the expenditure reductions that we've already done.

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I do get that a lot from community members as well, especially some of those that might not have been as plugged in over these past six,

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eight months that we've been working on this. I did ask ms. Sakar to not only go over the expenditure part,

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but ms. Brown to come up and talk about what we've been trying to do to generate additional revenue.

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>> the district has worked to reduce expenditures over the past few years,

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and some of the examples of ways in which expenditures have been reduced or detailed on this slide.

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for the 24/25 school year specifically, efforts were taken to reduce as many positions as possible through attrition.

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02:07:44,365 --> 02:07:48,250
the reductions were kept as far away from the classroom as possible, however, some teaching positions were reduced,

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based on lower enrollment. The reduction of positions has meant that other employees in

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the district have had to pick up the duties of the positions that were reduced,

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causing additional stress upon the entire system.

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despite the reduction of expenses, there were also required increases in expenses as inflationary pressures

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have increased the cost of insurance of supplies and of contracted services.

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in addition, many districts in the state are facing a nearly 50% decrease in

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02:08:23,520 --> 02:08:26,340
revenue from the sars program that reimburses the district for providing services to qualifying students.

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the next slide will detail ways in which coppell isd has worked to increase revenues.

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over the past few years, the district has been working to increase revenues.

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02:08:49,585 --> 02:08:52,105
most notably, the marketing team has been targeting efforts to increase enrollment district wide,

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02:08:55,075 --> 02:08:58,630
and to increase the attendance rate since the district's funding is mainly based on the average daily attendance of our enrolled students.

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02:09:02,875 --> 02:09:05,170
there are other sources of revenues, some of which are listed on this slide.

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they include applying for available grants, generating revenue by renting out district facilities and assets,

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02:09:15,175 --> 02:09:15,175
working with business partners to provide not only donations of cash,

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02:09:19,465 --> 02:09:19,465
but also in-kind donations of time and talent to support students,

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our classrooms, our campuses, and district needs. You, the board, also called for

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02:09:29,110 --> 02:09:32,575
a voter approved tax ratification election on november the 5th, 2024, to increase the m&o tax rate by 3.17 pennies,

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which could provide 2.4 in additional revenue. >> before we jump into discussion,

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I did want to point out once again to the board that open enrollment has been expanded over the past few years and we have seen an increase there,

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which has been helpful. But because I do know we get a question about that quite a bit from community,

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02:09:57,430 --> 02:10:01,000
both in favor of it, but also with some reservations about it. But instead of just asking questions,

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we wanted to let you all have some conversations since this is a work shop for our board,

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and so the next slide is an opportunity for you all to discuss what has been shared or anything else that's on your mind.

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>> you can go. >> you covered why we can't increase open enrollment plainly.

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what are the limiting factors for open enrollment?

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>> I'll address this and then, if any of my friends or colleagues want to jump in, they can feel free.

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open enrollment, we have to be very strategic and careful about how we do it because the goal is that,

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we don't that we use available seats and that we don't increase staffing.

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if we allow in some students, and we go over the number of projected students, and it's by grade level.

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we have to be very careful that we're doing it across different classrooms and grade levels.

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if we have too many, then we'll have to add staffing, and that defeats the purpose of bringing in our open enrollment.

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we've been very strategic in how we do that, and we have increased on the number of open enrollment students,

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02:11:06,520 --> 02:11:08,980
but we've been very careful how we're doing that so that we're being fiscally responsible in our use of open enrollment.

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I think I do well. >> basically, if we blindly open it,

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it could actually increase our cost and reduce the revenue rather than increasing the revenues,

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so that can be very specific that we only fill the open seats.

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otherwise, if we add 10 students, we might have to hire another teacher for those 10 students,

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and the overall cost of that one fde might be more than the revenue we get from those 10 students.

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>> exactly. It definitely would be. Adding one teacher, we need to at least have half the students in that class.

1272
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we would have to bring in 10 per grade level per campus. That's very strategic. Remember that when we're bringing in students,

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we're not just bringing in elementary to fill those available seats, that we're getting about 50/50.

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02:11:59,665 --> 02:12:03,445
about 50% of our open enrollment students are in the secondary level. It's not just at the elementary level.

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we have to be careful, and that's where we don't have the same room that we have at the elementary level.

1276
02:12:11,890 --> 02:12:14,440
we have to be very strategic how we handle open enrollment, but we are carefully considering that,

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and we have made significant gains in that area filling those available seats.

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>> also one of the factors as we look at our campuses and efficiencies is,

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because open enrollment students are not eligible for transportation,

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parents are required to bring them to school, and sowe also want to make sure that as

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our opportunities grow for open enrollment that we do have those seats available,

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and to ms. Brown's point, not adding additional staff members to then increase our expenses.

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>> one more follow up question since we heard about this in the open forum quite a bit.

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I know we covered this in the last workshop, but since we have a lot of new audience here.

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02:12:59,065 --> 02:13:01,960
for the benefit of community, could you, again, at a high level go over all or most of the factors that were covered in

1286
02:13:07,270 --> 02:13:07,270
the rubric that led to the five choices which we have,

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which only pinpoints to certain schools and not all the remaining 17th schools or 18 schools?

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02:13:19,540 --> 02:13:21,100
>> excellent question. Remember, the rubric was developed by a group of community members, parents, staff members,

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who came together, some of those who served on the strategic plan committee,

1290
02:13:29,800 --> 02:13:32,245
raised their hand to be a part of that. Then others said, I would like to serve on as well.

1291
02:13:35,530 --> 02:13:38,110
that group of individuals developed this. They looked at, there's a rubric and then there's a decision filter.

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02:13:42,220 --> 02:13:45,940
in the rubric, they looked at the operational factors, and there were several operational factors inside of there.

1293
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they looked at transportation, they looked at utilization, they looked at utility costs.

1294
02:13:53,680 --> 02:13:57,070
then there were learning programmatic factors that they looked at. They looked at neighborhood schools.

1295
02:13:58,960 --> 02:14:00,625
they looked at proximity. They looked at lots of different variables.

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02:14:03,400 --> 02:14:05,605
then that was a part of the rubric. Then the next stage that was the decision filter.

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02:14:09,565 --> 02:14:13,390
that's really harder to quantify, but data points. Really, that's really thinking strategically.

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02:14:16,575 --> 02:14:18,660
you take every option, and you look through the filter, the lens of.

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02:14:21,345 --> 02:14:22,865
that's the impact to students, the impact to staff, the disruptive nature of the change.

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02:14:26,125 --> 02:14:29,020
that's really where you look at. Is it solution based? Is it forward focusing?

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those are the factors then that you go through in the decision filter, and then that is what led to us bringing forward through lots of data,

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but then robust discussions, and really looking at all of the pieces that come together,

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and that's where we brought you the options that we did. >> in chart, it's not just about numbers.

1304
02:14:52,015 --> 02:14:54,445
there were a lot of subjective factors which were put in which would mean considering the situations we are in,

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and some of the tough decisions we have to make considering all those. It will put to make a stronger cisd for the years to come.

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it's not just about efficiency of one factor.

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02:15:14,010 --> 02:15:16,035
>> we felt like it's important that the committee felt like it's important to have a balanced approach,

1308
02:15:19,385 --> 02:15:21,700
that if we just were looking at numbers and data that that isn't the real story of coppell isd.

1309
02:15:24,460 --> 02:15:28,420
that's where the committee wanted to develop the decision filter. Really looking at it through various lenses.

1310
02:15:32,215 --> 02:15:35,545
each option was looked at through those different lenses that we've talked about. I think it was forward facing strategic solution focused,

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and I think that's where the robust discussion came from with the evaluation team and then with the district level.

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>> I'll say it again, you guys have done a tremendous job of taking hundreds and thousands of those data points and the stories,

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and brought it in a very abstract, not abstract,

1314
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but comprehensible abstraction layer that even a common community member who is not plugged in on a daily basis can understand,

1315
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and I know it took thousands and thousands of hours for staff. Thank you for all the hard work you've been doing over the last few months.

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>> thank you. We have a great team. >> angela, well, you were talking on the rubric. I think you mentioned this back in may or june when we were,

1317
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I guess, maybe looking at the first iteration, but speaking of the committee, I mean, I remember,

1318
02:16:32,155 --> 02:16:35,620
you had mentioned one or two or maybe multiple members of the community that were on had actually do this for do it for a professional life.

1319
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>> we did. We have several members who, one in particular, this is what her job is every single day,

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02:16:45,580 --> 02:16:48,220
is working for, not in education, but in outside of education,

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02:16:50,800 --> 02:16:53,620
working for consolidation and mergers. Looking at how do you consolidate businesses,

1322
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and what are the factors that you look at. It was her idea that she brought forward to

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the committee to talk about the decision filter. In their job, that's what they have.

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they look at the data, but then they look at the whole big picture, and that allows that thoughtful nature of it.

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>> thank you. Nicole, I think is you. >> I have just two quick questions for diana,

1326
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and they're clarifying questions that I know the answer to,

1327
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but I would love for you to answer. My first question is, do we have a rainy day fund or is that a state of texas term?

1328
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my second question to you, because it looks obvious when you look at the timeline of

1329
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when the legislature meets and when we approve budgets, that we could change the timing of when we approve the budget,

1330
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but is that dictated by law when we have to pass the budget in the tax rate?

1331
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>> yes. To answer the second question,

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the district is obliged to adopt to the budget in august.

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02:17:56,290 --> 02:17:56,290
our fiscal year is september 1 through august 31st.

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the tax rate, we typically adopt at the same time as the budget because that's the discussion that the tax rate will support the budget.

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02:18:08,200 --> 02:18:11,860
the tax rate could actually be adopted in september legally, but we tend to do it at the same time.

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to answer the question, do we have a rainy day fund? I likened it more to a checkbook,

1337
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because we have to spend so much money out of our checkbook all the

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way through from september to december before we start getting those tax revenues in.

1339
02:18:34,195 --> 02:18:37,495
those tax revenues help bring our balance back up, but we are required to have a lot of cash on hand to support all of our expenditures.

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that was really that graph that shows as a percent of our total expenditures,

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how tea, and how other entities measure our fund balance.

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>> really, it's our score card of how we're evaluated financially.

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02:19:01,720 --> 02:19:04,510
>> very true. >> thank you. >> going back to that chart, and that was beautiful.

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I know you have explained it in so many ways, but that was one of the best way to explain the rainy fund.

1345
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the whole 70+ million is not rainy fund,

1346
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and as you said, it's not right to take it as an absolute number,

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but rather a percentage of our revenue or expenditure, not revenue.

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02:19:29,320 --> 02:19:29,320
if you have to say the expenditure which we are expected to

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incur before we get the tax funds in december from the state.

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besides all that checking amount, we have to write, the rainy fund is about just $7 million,

1351
02:19:46,735 --> 02:19:50,695
which we will use this year. We have to make decision.

1352
02:19:53,020 --> 02:19:56,665
we have postponed this conversation for many years. This is the absolute last year where we have to make

1353
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some tough decision if we are not to impact our long-term credit rating,

1354
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because that will affect tens of millions of dollars for cisd for years to come if that happens.

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is that correct statement? >> that is correct. We have been talking about decisions like this for many years.

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as I said, the fund balance that we had allowed this to be very thoughtfully considered and gave

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the board the time to postpone making this decision last year or postpone making this decision two years ago.

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02:20:38,200 --> 02:20:41,035
but now is when, as you said, we are running up where we have $7 million left of that fund that we can spend,

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and that could very easily be utilized in the 24/25 school year,

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if not the next. >> that is not that water would pass this year.

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that is the 2.4 million dollar optimistic assumption that water would pass.

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I know after some of these tough decisions, our board's next job would be to start

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promoting the need for water in the november election, because that is very critical for us to maintain good credit ratings.

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>> is there any other discussion or questions while we're at this point?

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>> there's been a lot of discussion about enrollment, elementary,

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and secondary, and we have a little bit of information that we would like to share to set the stage for this next piece.

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>> before we look at district enrollment, we want to share information about k-12 public school enrollment across our nation.

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this information was reported in education week in june 2024,

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using data from the national center for education statistics. Declining enrollment is occurring across our nation.

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02:21:58,670 --> 02:22:02,660
america is projected to have three million fewer k-12 students attending public school by 2031 than it did in 2013.

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there were six states that saw their overall population

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grow by more than 3% between 2020 and 2023.

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those states were idaho, florida, montana, south carolina, utah, and texas.

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02:22:24,500 --> 02:22:24,500
federal researchers are projecting public school enrollment increases

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between 2022 and 2031 for all of these states except texas,

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02:22:35,300 --> 02:22:35,300
where they expect there to be a decrease of 9%.

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02:22:39,525 --> 02:22:39,525
the article mentioned declining birth rates and school choice as reasons for

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02:22:43,990 --> 02:22:43,990
the decline in the k-12 public school enrollment across the nation.

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keep this in mind as we look forward to our own enrollment.

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>> good evening. I'm kristin eichel, and I'm one of the assistant superintendents here in coppell.

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as ms. Brown said, we'd like to once again, take a look at our coppell isd enrollment.

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the chart that you see before you shows the historical utilization of the elementary campuses.

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02:23:14,000 --> 02:23:17,330
you can see how the elementary schools were reaching their comfortable capacity in total in

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the 2013/2014 school year prior to richard j lee opening in 2014/2015.

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02:23:27,740 --> 02:23:29,960
during this period of growth, the school board decided to build a new elementary school in the southern area.

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02:23:34,655 --> 02:23:38,360
you can see how elementary use of capacity was increasing until 1920 when canyon ranch opened.

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02:23:42,830 --> 02:23:42,830
as we all know, shortly after the pandemic hit,

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and during and since the pandemic, elementary enrollment statewide has decreased.

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02:23:52,655 --> 02:23:52,655
the district's demographer often states that the world has changed since the pandemic,

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02:23:58,430 --> 02:23:58,430
and districts are seeing the impact of lower enrollment.

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02:24:05,490 --> 02:24:05,490
now, let's add the projected elementary enrollment to

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02:24:09,610 --> 02:24:09,610
see its impact on utilization of our elementary schools.

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this chart uses the demographic projections that were presented in the spring of the last school year.

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02:24:20,765 --> 02:24:20,765
utilization of the elementary schools will drop below 75% if no action is taken.

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02:24:28,430 --> 02:24:28,430
updated demographic projections are being completed now based

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upon cisd's current enrollment for this school year.

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02:24:36,770 --> 02:24:40,640
the demographer indicates that elementary enrollment looks to be declining more than anticipated in what this spring report shows.

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02:24:48,520 --> 02:24:48,520
let's continue to examine elementary enrollment a bit closer.

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remember that canyon ranch was planned as part of the 2016 bond

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02:24:58,535 --> 02:24:58,535
to respond to the continued growth that the district was experiencing,

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02:25:03,065 --> 02:25:05,420
and was projected to continue. We now know that the district does not need as many elementary seats as it currently has.

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02:25:11,660 --> 02:25:11,660
in the 22/23 and 23/24 school years,

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02:25:16,235 --> 02:25:16,235
elementary enrollment was just over 5,700 students.

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02:25:20,450 --> 02:25:20,450
the same as it was in the 2018/19 school year as shown by the purple bars on this chart.

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02:25:28,115 --> 02:25:31,190
since the 2018/19 school year, the district has added the fixed costs of

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02:25:34,190 --> 02:25:34,190
one additional elementary school for the same number of students.

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02:25:38,435 --> 02:25:41,750
these students could all be comfortably enrolled in 10 elementary schools instead of the 11 that are currently being used.

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02:25:47,830 --> 02:25:47,830
a lot of questions have come in about the impact of the cyprus water development,

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so we'd like to address that this evening. The cypress waters development is a planned community that is over 40% complete,

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02:26:01,835 --> 02:26:01,835
including commercial and residential building and infrastructure.

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there are often questions about the impact of the development on cisd school enrollment.

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there are legal restrictions on the developer that requires that

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at least 75% of the apartments have no more than one bedroom.

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02:26:21,215 --> 02:26:21,215
there are also no plans for single family housing in cypress waters.

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02:26:26,510 --> 02:26:26,510
this decreases the yield or number of students that are expected out of this development.

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02:26:32,535 --> 02:26:35,440
according to the developers at cypress waters, there are currently 2,958 finished residential units.

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02:26:41,625 --> 02:26:43,760
the district as a whole, has a yield of 0.436 students per apartment.

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02:26:51,725 --> 02:26:51,725
the yield in cypress waters is about 0.194.

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02:26:56,885 --> 02:27:00,440
significantly fewer students come out of the apartments at cypress waters than out of our other apartment complexes in the district.

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there are currently 282 elementary students and

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02:27:09,410 --> 02:27:09,410
291 secondary students attending our schools from cypress waters.

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02:27:14,840 --> 02:27:14,840
this development is averaging about 250 units per year.

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02:27:20,315 --> 02:27:23,510
given a yield of 0.194, we would expect a yield of about 49 students per year.

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02:27:27,875 --> 02:27:27,875
assuming the current trend that half for elementary students,

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02:27:32,060 --> 02:27:34,940
that is an additional 24 elementary students per school year based on the growth of cypress waters.

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02:27:38,255 --> 02:27:40,655
in the spring of 2024, the district's demographer projected an average reduction in

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02:27:43,670 --> 02:27:47,270
overall elementary enrollment of 96 per year. Current conversations indicate that it could be higher.

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the district has enough elementary capacity to absorb this yield coming out of cypress waters.

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02:27:57,485 --> 02:27:57,485
a yield of 0.194 equals 1,940 students at full build-out of this area.

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02:28:08,200 --> 02:28:12,200
once again, student yield measures the number of students that are enrolled in our district from the total number of homes within the district.

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02:28:16,280 --> 02:28:19,760
demographic reports show that the yield of students from housing within the district has declined over the past eight years.

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02:28:23,855 --> 02:28:27,845
when you look at our single family yield in 15/16, it was 0.729, and for last year, it was 0.699.

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02:28:33,935 --> 02:28:33,935
our apartment yield has decreased from 0.485 to 0.436.

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02:28:41,060 --> 02:28:41,060
in 15/16, our demographer broke out our manufactured home yield,

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but that is now currently included in that apartment yield.

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a number of questions and comments have arisen since

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the last board workshop related to class sizes and a concern that with consolidation,

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class sizes would increase. We would like to share that, in general,

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class sizes will not increase based on school consolidation.

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02:29:13,490 --> 02:29:17,060
in elementary, class sizes in pre-kindergarten to fourth grade are based on a 22 students to one teacher staffing ratio.

1441
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this is determined by the texas education agency.

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02:29:26,825 --> 02:29:30,320
we do have the ability to go over that 22 to one, but that does require a waiver that's brought before you as a board to vote on.

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02:29:34,625 --> 02:29:34,625
we do have circumstances where we bring a couple of waivers each year.

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02:29:38,855 --> 02:29:41,450
we may have mid year, a family move in, and we end up with 23 students for a class.

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02:29:44,885 --> 02:29:47,570
we bring that to you because we want our families to continue to be able to attend their neighborhood schools.

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02:29:50,930 --> 02:29:53,525
but in general, that is not something that we have put into place here in coppell isd in recent years.

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02:29:56,855 --> 02:29:59,420
in fifth grade, there's no state average, but we do staff at 2 to one.

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02:30:02,105 --> 02:30:05,660
with the older students, in many cases, at fifth grade, they're rotating classes,

1449
02:30:07,040 --> 02:30:10,655
and can handle a little bit larger classes and the responsibilities. We do have some cases right now where we're above that 25 to one,

1450
02:30:15,080 --> 02:30:15,080
26, we even have one or two sections that are currently 27.

1451
02:30:19,580 --> 02:30:19,580
but again, we make those decisions independently based on the needs of each campus.

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02:30:25,340 --> 02:30:28,160
I'd like to state that as of today, the schools under consideration,

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02:30:29,900 --> 02:30:29,900
pinkerton elementary currently has class sizes that range between 18

1454
02:30:34,695 --> 02:30:37,240
and go up to 22 students per class in pre-kindergarten or in kindergarten through fifth grade.

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02:30:40,555 --> 02:30:42,760
there's not pre-kindergarten on that campus. Austin elementary currently has class sizes between 18 and 25.

1456
02:30:48,135 --> 02:30:51,515
they do have pre-kindergarten through fifth grade currently. In general, currently, our elementary class sizes

1457
02:30:55,220 --> 02:30:55,220
range from 17 in pre-k to fourth grade,

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02:30:59,450 --> 02:30:59,450
and up to as high as I mentioned 27 at the fifth grade level.

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02:31:04,115 --> 02:31:07,160
there are a few exceptions that are a little bit lower than that, but we have no class sizes at elementary that are above that 27 at fifth grade.

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02:31:12,605 --> 02:31:14,870
on our elementary campuses, we have empty classrooms.

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02:31:16,895 --> 02:31:16,895
consolidation will allow us to fill empty classrooms with teachers and with students.

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02:31:22,685 --> 02:31:26,570
it will also allow us to move the few classes that are currently below the 15 to one ratio in line with

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02:31:28,820 --> 02:31:28,820
current class sizes of between 18-22 for pre-k to fourth,

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and between 25 and 27 for fifth grade.

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02:31:38,830 --> 02:31:38,830
we also wanted to take a moment and provide some clarity about

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secondary class sizes as well as this chart that was presented last week.

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as with the elementary campuses, in general, average class sizes will not increase based on school consolidation.

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class sizes in the core classes are based on a 30 students to one teacher staffing ratio.

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02:32:02,345 --> 02:32:02,345
an elective and special program classes at the high school do vary by the program.

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02:32:07,430 --> 02:32:10,400
of course, fine arts and athletics are going to see larger class sizes and more coaches and teachers participating.

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02:32:14,375 --> 02:32:17,870
some of the specialized classes do have smaller numbers. For efficient staffing models,

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all secondary classes should have a minimum of 15 students for the class to make.

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02:32:24,935 --> 02:32:28,130
when you look at this chart of classes that do not meet our efficient staffing model at each of our high schools,

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02:32:31,400 --> 02:32:31,400
you can see that almost half of the classes at new tech do not meet the standard when

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02:32:36,800 --> 02:32:36,800
compared with 7-8% of the classes at chs9 and chs not meeting the standard.

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02:32:43,055 --> 02:32:43,055
if new tech high coppell is consolidated into chs9 and chs,

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02:32:48,410 --> 02:32:48,410
75 students can be easily absorbed into the 369 classes offered at chs9,

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02:32:55,340 --> 02:32:59,300
and that's been about the average freshman class size in recent years, without overcrowding or changing the staffing model,

1479
02:33:02,495 --> 02:33:02,495
and 224 students can be easily absorbed into the 1,061 classes at chs.

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02:33:10,090 --> 02:33:10,090
>> a lot of questions last week about our staff members, our educators, especially.

1481
02:33:16,445 --> 02:33:16,445
I have had our hr team work on what those plans are going to look like,

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02:33:21,380 --> 02:33:24,350
and so we're going to hear a little bit more about that with ms. Duke. >> thank you. Good evening,

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02:33:26,120 --> 02:33:27,230
my name is karen duke, and I'm the executive director of human resources.

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02:33:30,320 --> 02:33:30,320
tonight, we would like to reaffirm information that we shared last week regarding

1485
02:33:34,940 --> 02:33:34,940
the plans for our employees if the board chooses to consolidate a school program.

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02:33:40,535 --> 02:33:43,100
if a campus is consolidated, the human resources team will share plans with

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02:33:45,410 --> 02:33:49,040
those employees that are impacted as early as possible. The plans will include the process for placing staff in positions and

1488
02:33:53,780 --> 02:33:53,780
the supports that the district will provide for staff members impacted by the changes.

1489
02:33:59,135 --> 02:33:59,135
timing is one of the important factors to the human resources plan.

1490
02:34:03,815 --> 02:34:06,245
the earlier that decisions are made, the earlier that employees will know where they will be placed,

1491
02:34:09,530 --> 02:34:09,530
based to the greatest extent possible on choice and their preference.

1492
02:34:14,690 --> 02:34:14,690
then as other positions become available throughout the spring and summer,

1493
02:34:19,055 --> 02:34:19,055
there will be a process to make adjustments again according to preference.

1494
02:34:30,310 --> 02:34:32,945
>> good evening. My name is stephanie flores, executive director for intervention services.

1495
02:34:35,405 --> 02:34:37,910
as a district, we have a process for learners with unique needs when they transfer to a new campus.

1496
02:34:40,565 --> 02:34:42,410
learners needs are communicated, and the individual plans are shared with the receiving campus.

1497
02:34:45,455 --> 02:34:48,890
we have a continuum of services to meet learner needs, and that includes centralized programs for support.

1498
02:34:51,965 --> 02:34:55,220
we make adjustments each year by adding more classes or moving a program from one campus to another as needs change.

1499
02:34:58,655 --> 02:35:00,410
with any campus consolidation, we will be able to continue to meet learner needs and special programs.

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>> lots of questions too about community engagement and what we've been doing to make sure that the community has been involved.

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02:35:12,410 --> 02:35:14,060
as I said last week, even though we've been working on this really for months,

1502
02:35:17,510 --> 02:35:19,760
and then in some regards for years, until you hear the name of your school,

1503
02:35:21,935 --> 02:35:25,580
it doesn't really become a reality. Some people were thinking, you're only focusing on elementary schools because of decline in elementary enrollment,

1504
02:35:29,630 --> 02:35:32,450
and if my school has a high number, then it's not going to be considered. That was one factor, like ms. Brown said,

1505
02:35:34,940 --> 02:35:38,810
but it was also age of the building, all those other things that were mentioned too. Secondary is a part of this as well.

1506
02:35:41,585 --> 02:35:44,450
I did want to reiterate what we have been doing, and then also continue to let the community know that we're still getting input.

1507
02:35:48,275 --> 02:35:51,260
we had lots of speakers tonight, we're getting emails, we have a big event coming up,

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02:35:52,610 --> 02:35:54,860
and so ms. Brown's going to touch on that. >> between september the 6th and 13th,

1509
02:35:57,605 --> 02:35:57,605
cisd received 336 total consolidation emails, but that is the topic.

1510
02:36:03,110 --> 02:36:05,315
seventy-seven of those were duplicates. There were 259 individual emails sent to the input email account regarding consolidation.

1511
02:36:11,975 --> 02:36:15,530
the emails included feedback, input, and questions. We are going to continue to collect

1512
02:36:17,240 --> 02:36:20,675
the feedback and the input received from our community. Marie consented to input at coppell.isd.com throughout this entire process.

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02:36:24,860 --> 02:36:24,860
>> does that have any thoughts,

1514
02:36:37,910 --> 02:36:37,910
comments, questions for staff over this section of what we've talked about? Go.

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02:36:45,680 --> 02:36:48,965
>> I mean, I'm glad, ms. Brown, that you mentioned that we've been, and dr. Hunt, you did too.

1516
02:36:50,450 --> 02:36:50,450
I mean, I know how shocking and jarring these things can be.

1517
02:36:55,655 --> 02:36:55,655
I had a student at elementary when the decision was made to close in elementary.

1518
02:37:00,680 --> 02:37:03,605
I don't know whether that was 18 years ago, 16 years ago. I know trustee hill was on the board making those hard decisions.

1519
02:37:08,645 --> 02:37:10,820
I know how it feels. We're all parents in this room up

1520
02:37:14,540 --> 02:37:14,540
here who have kids in school or have had kids in many of the campuses here,

1521
02:37:20,890 --> 02:37:20,890
but it doesn't change the fact that the legislature powers

1522
02:37:27,440 --> 02:37:27,440
at b have been working on a plan to unfund us since 2006, 2010.

1523
02:37:34,040 --> 02:37:36,635
if you're just now realizing this, I'm sorry for the jarring experience,

1524
02:37:41,570 --> 02:37:43,010
but I mean, that's part of what has precipitated our conversations for the last three years.

1525
02:37:46,055 --> 02:37:46,055
I have appreciated the feedback and input from our community,

1526
02:37:50,360 --> 02:37:54,005
suggesting that we see what the legislature does, and candidly, at this table,

1527
02:37:56,255 --> 02:37:58,400
job and rena weren't on the board yet, but we made the decision two years ago to give

1528
02:38:00,350 --> 02:38:03,140
the legislature an opportunity to do the right thing. They haven't. When they have given us funding in the past,

1529
02:38:07,430 --> 02:38:09,590
and made a big pr splash about it, the reality is, they've taken something else away.

1530
02:38:12,035 --> 02:38:12,035
our net positive has been very minimal or in some subject areas negative.

1531
02:38:19,300 --> 02:38:19,300
as much as I hate to be having these conversations,

1532
02:38:30,220 --> 02:38:30,220
we are at a cross roads.

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02:38:34,680 --> 02:38:38,005
>> well, I would love for everything to stay the same. In our awesome school district,

1534
02:38:39,745 --> 02:38:39,745
the reality is those are not the choices that we are being faced with right now.

1535
02:38:45,210 --> 02:38:45,210
I think it is important to do what we can now to play offense

1536
02:38:50,590 --> 02:38:50,590
as much as possible and to protect what we have to the degree that we can.

1537
02:38:55,525 --> 02:38:58,795
that may mean that it has to look different. I regret that for some of our kids.

1538
02:39:02,695 --> 02:39:05,845
I also know in the time that my kids were in this district, things change and things do look different and life evolves and it's uncomfortable,

1539
02:39:11,305 --> 02:39:14,650
it's not always fun and it's not always our choice. I also know I have four thriving kids that went through that here in

1540
02:39:17,590 --> 02:39:17,590
the district and who made it through it.

1541
02:39:22,020 --> 02:39:22,020
my personal opinion is that we need to continue the conversations about

1542
02:39:26,350 --> 02:39:30,295
doing something that lets us fight another day. Lets us keep our programs and as many of

1543
02:39:33,520 --> 02:39:37,075
our great staff and all the things impossible that we can. I feel like looking at this from 30,000 feet and granted,

1544
02:39:40,450 --> 02:39:40,450
most of us have had three years to work through this and process this

1545
02:39:44,470 --> 02:39:44,470
and see what we hoped would happen that hasn't come to fruition.

1546
02:39:49,945 --> 02:39:49,945
but from 30,000 feet if we can keep things as similar as possible,

1547
02:39:58,930 --> 02:40:02,080
but in different locations and it lets us be flexible and do things and be creative and evolve,

1548
02:40:05,425 --> 02:40:07,510
as much as I hate that being the answer. I think for me, that is the conversation that we need to continue because I

1549
02:40:12,010 --> 02:40:12,010
think it is the best way that we can take care of the most number of kids.

1550
02:40:16,855 --> 02:40:19,270
I don't have all the answers tonight about what all of this would potentially look like depending upon what the board decides to do.

1551
02:40:22,645 --> 02:40:22,645
but I know we have a history of grandfathering in families.

1552
02:40:27,385 --> 02:40:29,965
we have a history of taking care of our people. We have a history, even when a campus was closed all

1553
02:40:32,560 --> 02:40:36,430
those years ago of helping people get placed in other districts. I have l tasb classmates in

1554
02:40:39,115 --> 02:40:39,115
other districts that have gone down to their minimum fund balance.

1555
02:40:43,210 --> 02:40:46,150
this year, they couldn't give pay raises and they lost great people and they had to pass a deficit budget,

1556
02:40:49,600 --> 02:40:51,880
and if everything doesn't go perfectly, they're going to be doing fire closings of schools and

1557
02:40:55,780 --> 02:40:55,780
doing things on a very time sensitive,

1558
02:41:00,100 --> 02:41:03,160
out of control, potentially situation. I feel like the one luxury we do have right now is

1559
02:41:05,590 --> 02:41:08,470
that we have been having this conversation for so long, that we have an opportunity to do it well,

1560
02:41:11,935 --> 02:41:15,880
and I hate what that means for campuses, but it is a community issue, and I just want to get through it as a community.

1561
02:41:25,620 --> 02:41:29,530
>> [inaudible] >> thank you for your comments. I'll add a couple of my thoughts regarding the legislature.

1562
02:41:33,040 --> 02:41:33,040
we as a board members have been advocating on behalf of public education on

1563
02:41:38,500 --> 02:41:38,500
behalf of coppell isd with our legislators for many years.

1564
02:41:43,840 --> 02:41:43,840
I personally met with our house state senators,

1565
02:41:50,035 --> 02:41:52,975
members of the education committee. I've seen every kind of response.

1566
02:41:55,720 --> 02:41:55,720
I've seen yes, we value public education and we are here to support our teachers.

1567
02:42:00,670 --> 02:42:02,620
but when it comes to their voting, it's all about vouchers in support of vouchers,

1568
02:42:05,530 --> 02:42:09,460
which directly undermines public education. I we've been lucky to have some good house representatives,

1569
02:42:15,340 --> 02:42:15,340
which I've held on to vouchers getting passed.

1570
02:42:19,525 --> 02:42:19,525
I say this because I was really encouraged with our community remarks of how many

1571
02:42:24,010 --> 02:42:24,010
of our community members said they want to take part in this fight.

1572
02:42:30,810 --> 02:42:30,810
I don't want a particular community member school

1573
02:42:35,860 --> 02:42:38,935
being there or not there be the only reason. This is not going to end with one school.

1574
02:42:43,945 --> 02:42:45,640
miss what state is doing? They will continue to squeeze public education.

1575
02:42:50,610 --> 02:42:50,610
we should not give up based on whatever the board decides over the next board meeting.

1576
02:42:57,850 --> 02:42:57,850
we have to take this as a wake up call and keep on advocating with our legislators.

1577
02:43:05,550 --> 02:43:08,185
the reality has been, as we heard that most of the bills hardly

1578
02:43:11,830 --> 02:43:11,830
cover the actual money needed to support the public education.

1579
02:43:16,165 --> 02:43:17,620
in spite of that, they keep on passing mandates about security which are extremely underfunded.

1580
02:43:22,420 --> 02:43:24,970
pk, they'll fund only 50%, but expect us to educate pk for the entire day.

1581
02:43:28,900 --> 02:43:28,900
there's a whole list of underfunded mandates which keep on coming.

1582
02:43:36,720 --> 02:43:36,720
let's take this, and that's my personal appeal to the community.

1583
02:43:41,320 --> 02:43:44,380
let's take this as a wake up call. We have to get the legislators who support public education elected and who are there.

1584
02:43:52,710 --> 02:43:52,710
we have to keep on appealing to them to support our public education because

1585
02:43:57,030 --> 02:43:57,030
public schools are the real things that bring the community together.

1586
02:44:05,130 --> 02:44:05,130
outside the legislator, I had one question regarding the previous slides, miss brown.

1587
02:44:12,370 --> 02:44:12,370
could you elaborate on what happens if regeneration happens?

1588
02:44:18,775 --> 02:44:18,775
if we are lucky enough to see some regeneration in coppell isd.

1589
02:44:24,325 --> 02:44:27,880
I know the board has taken the option of closing two elementary schools? We are looking at closing one elementary school if that passes.

1590
02:44:33,445 --> 02:44:36,190
what happens during that regeneration? What happens when some new student starts coming from cypress waters?

1591
02:44:41,125 --> 02:44:41,125
do we have capacity to accommodate any foreseeable positive regeneration?

1592
02:44:48,085 --> 02:44:51,310
>> definitely, and our demographer has taken that into account and as he's currently running numbers based off what we have.

1593
02:44:54,370 --> 02:44:55,960
he's taking that into account, and you can see from what we presented about cypress waters that

1594
02:44:59,260 --> 02:45:02,830
we do have the capacity more than the capacity to take in not just the 0.194 yield of cypress waters,

1595
02:45:10,240 --> 02:45:13,420
but even if we get a higher yield out of cypress waters, we have enough capacity to take those students in

1596
02:45:16,720 --> 02:45:20,515
and to educate them and fill our empty seats. We have the capacity for that.

1597
02:45:22,120 --> 02:45:25,825
even neighborhoods that begin to turnover. If you remember last meeting,

1598
02:45:27,910 --> 02:45:31,420
we talked about, we do have excess capacity. We have several hundred seats.

1599
02:45:34,440 --> 02:45:34,440
this year, we're already seeing a decline from what was projected for this school year.

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02:45:39,820 --> 02:45:43,510
we already are down. There is capacity. If our neighborhoods begin to turn over,

1601
02:45:46,285 --> 02:45:49,765
we do have that capacity even with closing one school. >> that number correct that if

1602
02:45:52,645 --> 02:45:52,645
the board decides to consolidate one of the elementary school,

1603
02:45:56,965 --> 02:45:59,170
there would be about capacity close to rough number about thousand elementary students? Yes.

1604
02:46:03,730 --> 02:46:06,100
>> yes. A little bit more than that actually. >> that's a huge growth,

1605
02:46:08,875 --> 02:46:08,875
we will have to see a huge percentage growth for us to maximize that available capacity.

1606
02:46:16,600 --> 02:46:18,520
>> correct. Because in future years, if you remember that chart, I'm doing it from memory that we showed last time,

1607
02:46:22,105 --> 02:46:22,105
14,000 1,500, 1,600 students as the years go on is what our capacity will become.

1608
02:46:29,200 --> 02:46:29,200
>> that is one of the main reason why we believe that consolidating one school

1609
02:46:34,135 --> 02:46:34,135
will not bring us close to increased class sizes at all.

1610
02:46:39,355 --> 02:46:41,890
>> correct. Remember, we're staffing right now 22-1. That's our staffing ratio for pre-k through fourth grade as miss achal just shared.

1611
02:46:47,395 --> 02:46:47,395
we currently staff at that rate and we will continue to staff at that rate.

1612
02:46:52,230 --> 02:46:55,510
>> then just piggybacking on that question and these comments when we're talking about class size,

1613
02:46:58,480 --> 02:47:00,625
the point that was made earlier, especially at our footprint schools,

1614
02:47:02,515 --> 02:47:02,515
those were designed for four and five class sections.

1615
02:47:07,240 --> 02:47:08,830
am I correct in that? Where we're extremely inefficient right now is we've got some of those sections.

1616
02:47:13,420 --> 02:47:15,520
>> some of those at 3:00 am cycle. >> now, you're absolutely correct.

1617
02:47:17,905 --> 02:47:20,830
we can very comfortably fit four and five sections per grade level at each of our footprint campuses.

1618
02:47:23,980 --> 02:47:27,265
there have been times we've gone up to even six classes. With the preliminary demographer projections with either of the consolidation options,

1619
02:47:33,160 --> 02:47:33,160
we would be looking at an average of 3-4 sections per grade level on any given campus.

1620
02:47:39,040 --> 02:47:41,830
there would be some pockets of five, but again, we would have the space to be able to meet that capacity.

1621
02:47:46,105 --> 02:47:49,560
>> thank you. Then I had made a note on, which was slide 21, but just showing the enrollment versus capacity.

1622
02:47:53,865 --> 02:47:56,885
I think two comments on that one, because I do remember the years leading up to canyon ranch.

1623
02:48:00,310 --> 02:48:00,310
I think I said this last week where we were at the upper 90s capacity in the district,

1624
02:48:07,960 --> 02:48:07,960
and we were overcrowded everywhere.

1625
02:48:13,270 --> 02:48:15,940
but I think the real takeaway from this chart is it shows just how quick a trend can change.

1626
02:48:19,015 --> 02:48:19,015
I know there's multiple factors in here when we consider covid and how it's changed,

1627
02:48:25,780 --> 02:48:25,780
remote work and people's ability to not have to relocate and things like that.

1628
02:48:31,330 --> 02:48:31,330
but guess my question why I was saying that,

1629
02:48:37,290 --> 02:48:39,730
to your point man, we did agree to take the two options off the table,

1630
02:48:43,145 --> 02:48:45,480
and I'm not advocating, we put that back on, but just looking at what we've talked about additional

1631
02:48:48,360 --> 02:48:51,490
today and that we're still [inaudible] I guess you guys still think one would put us in

1632
02:48:54,160 --> 02:48:57,730
a good spot that we wouldn't be say wouldn't, don't say never. But a high likelihood that we wouldn't

1633
02:49:01,150 --> 02:49:01,150
be coming back in a couple of years or three years,

1634
02:49:06,070 --> 02:49:09,745
thinking we may have to do this again. I guess that's my question if it makes sense. >> one elementary school.

1635
02:49:10,630 --> 02:49:13,060
>> yeah, if we do one now, would we? For certainty facing another one at some point in the future,

1636
02:49:16,150 --> 02:49:17,860
do we with our projections, think we can shore up what we need to in capacity with just one?

1637
02:49:22,165 --> 02:49:24,475
>> believe so, it's hard to predict. We don't have that crystal ball to your point about the slide that you referenced,

1638
02:49:28,780 --> 02:49:28,780
you can see where we had the [noise] capacity, almost even overcapacity.

1639
02:49:33,850 --> 02:49:36,970
I remember I was not superintendent. I was assistant soup, and that was when we were also using overflow.

1640
02:49:39,880 --> 02:49:41,410
we were busing children at different locations because there was no space at those schools,

1641
02:49:44,650 --> 02:49:47,290
and so that's when board student committee was formed. That's when the community voted to add another school in the southern part of

1642
02:49:50,890 --> 02:49:50,890
the district and a larger school too to help accommodate that fast growth.

1643
02:49:55,030 --> 02:49:57,835
we were a fast growth district at that time. I think in just continuing our practice of working closely with our demographer,

1644
02:50:01,870 --> 02:50:01,870
we're doing everything we can to ensure that we are addressing what we know today,

1645
02:50:09,370 --> 02:50:12,400
but it's so hard because we don't know what the future is going to hold. >> well, even nationally,

1646
02:50:13,780 --> 02:50:15,355
the trends are changing. Nationally, the trends are changing so quickly.

1647
02:50:19,680 --> 02:50:22,690
I think our demographers actually doing a great job. I remember when we switched demographers because

1648
02:50:25,045 --> 02:50:27,820
the previous one maybe wasn't doing such a great job, but I think we're all still figuring it all out from covid honestly.

1649
02:50:33,310 --> 02:50:33,310
>> listen, we're all parents in this room up here on the dios in the group.

1650
02:50:38,680 --> 02:50:41,380
I think something we always tell our children is you can't control the problems that come to you,

1651
02:50:44,650 --> 02:50:47,155
but you can control how you react to them. That's where we are right now.

1652
02:50:48,940 --> 02:50:48,940
I really appreciate the capacity building for our community,

1653
02:50:53,275 --> 02:50:55,870
and yet, when you look at this, the facts are the facts.

1654
02:50:57,535 --> 02:50:59,590
we can't change that, but we can decide and exert power in this room of how we're going to handle that.

1655
02:51:04,645 --> 02:51:07,030
I think we have some core values in line, where we have said we're going to take the emotion out of it as much as we can.

1656
02:51:11,080 --> 02:51:11,080
we're going to focus on a timeline being extremely transparent, thoughtful.

1657
02:51:17,335 --> 02:51:20,290
the words that I've heard you use miss brown and that have popped to me today is solution oriented and forward facing.

1658
02:51:24,475 --> 02:51:27,130
when I look at this, I think of, how can we turn our challenges truly into opportunities?

1659
02:51:31,630 --> 02:51:33,055
that's what I wanted to see. I wanted to see our community come together with our staff,

1660
02:51:36,460 --> 02:51:37,960
our subject matter experts, with us as another layer of filter,

1661
02:51:40,765 --> 02:51:43,315
and say, looking at this, we've all look at this. I don't know if you guys even seeing it again today,

1662
02:51:46,225 --> 02:51:48,940
it reinforces where we are and why we're here. But we're smart group of people that are engaged,

1663
02:51:51,370 --> 02:51:53,230
we can figure this out together. That's what this process has brought us to and these solutions that are presented to us.

1664
02:51:58,750 --> 02:51:58,750
nicole, I appreciate your emotion because I think it's what we all feel,

1665
02:52:02,755 --> 02:52:05,740
and as we talked about earlier, I think we've each had to take as we read these emails,

1666
02:52:09,010 --> 02:52:12,355
we feel every single one of them, so we get it. We get it. But the fact of the matter is

1667
02:52:15,310 --> 02:52:15,310
we have to exert control where we can exert control.

1668
02:52:19,855 --> 02:52:19,855
I think that's why we're having this conversation.

1669
02:52:24,010 --> 02:52:26,020
I'm really glad that we have the capacity, but I also am very proud of the fact that the district has taken all the emails and

1670
02:52:31,870 --> 02:52:34,780
taken all the feedback and tried and not tried and has answered them with facts responding.

1671
02:52:38,770 --> 02:52:42,355
now it comes to us to be the next layer, the next decision filter,

1672
02:52:44,200 --> 02:52:44,200
as it were, to decide how are we going to truly turn this challenge into an opportunity.

1673
02:52:50,680 --> 02:52:52,840
I have the slide deck in front of me. I know what's coming next as we look at,

1674
02:52:55,150 --> 02:52:55,150
and I will tell you that no matter how much money we have,

1675
02:52:59,320 --> 02:53:01,045
for me, I flip it. This is an efficiency issue for me at the elementary level.

1676
02:53:05,800 --> 02:53:05,800
it doesn't matter our job is to strategically,

1677
02:53:10,660 --> 02:53:13,390
I'm going to use your words, joby, is to strategically deploy our taxpayer dollars,

1678
02:53:17,155 --> 02:53:21,025
and you cannot do that inefficiently at the elementary school level. That's just the fact of the matter.

1679
02:53:23,800 --> 02:53:23,800
how can we make sure that the decisions that we make reinforce our programs and

1680
02:53:30,580 --> 02:53:30,580
our staff and our families and actually use this as an opportunity to get even better?

1681
02:53:37,630 --> 02:53:39,430
I think that's the conversation. But I'm really appreciative of all of the emails because I think it's made us

1682
02:53:43,810 --> 02:53:43,810
make sure that we're letting you guys know that we're walking along this together.

1683
02:53:48,805 --> 02:53:51,160
the questions that you ask, we need to answer.

1684
02:53:53,335 --> 02:53:57,235
the district needs to answer. That's why I think when we've talked about our timeline, that we have to have space between these meetings for us to process,

1685
02:54:01,330 --> 02:54:03,790
and more importantly for you guys to process. Because as you ask questions,

1686
02:54:05,710 --> 02:54:09,550
I think it helps us all. I wanted to say that out loud. I don't want to cut us off if for you,

1687
02:54:12,070 --> 02:54:12,070
but I'm interested in the next section because I think it

1688
02:54:16,780 --> 02:54:16,780
also deals with some of the specific questions with some of the options presented.

1689
02:54:21,700 --> 02:54:24,010
>> I want to expand on a comment you made, miss walker because we are a continual improvement district,

1690
02:54:26,860 --> 02:54:29,005
and we do take critical feedback. As much as I feel like we've been sending information out.

1691
02:54:32,200 --> 02:54:35,905
if there's a parent that comes to me and says, brad, I have no idea what you're talking about, we've got to take some responsibility for that.

1692
02:54:38,395 --> 02:54:40,090
again, you saw the slide, you saw we have sent out a lot of information.

1693
02:54:42,730 --> 02:54:46,720
I also know people say, brad, you may have sent 49 emails, but I only read two of them. We have to make sure that we are doing all we can

1694
02:54:49,600 --> 02:54:52,390
to continue to engage with all stakeholders. But I also know too, people are busy.

1695
02:54:54,625 --> 02:54:57,370
people are focused on what's happening right now, and people don't always get involved in some of these extra things that are going on.

1696
02:55:02,365 --> 02:55:06,130
we continue to employ the community, stay connected with us. Engagement is part of this process.

1697
02:55:08,305 --> 02:55:10,900
if there's things that we can do better, we're open to that. We lots of surveys.

1698
02:55:12,670 --> 02:55:15,250
some of these responses are from surveys that we've got from community staff, almost all stakeholders.

1699
02:55:19,690 --> 02:55:21,550
we could probably do more with students, but our kids are always plugged in and so I do appreciate them being involved.

1700
02:55:25,000 --> 02:55:25,000
but this is not an easy process for anybody. Nobody.

1701
02:55:30,025 --> 02:55:32,770
>> with that, I like to chime in at this point because when you look at the timeline of history,

1702
02:55:35,380 --> 02:55:37,570
and I always apologize for my voice, but you go back and you talk about

1703
02:55:40,465 --> 02:55:44,020
the things that have occurred over the time that I've been here. We've talked about elementary that was closed when I just joined the board.

1704
02:55:48,325 --> 02:55:50,350
we talked about in 2009, financial exigency, which is something that is a reduction in force.

1705
02:55:55,120 --> 02:55:57,805
you go to 2010, a tre was passed, which gave us the capacity to get to 2019,

1706
02:56:00,520 --> 02:56:03,470
because after that 2010, 2011, it was a reduction in the state funding of 5.4 billion plus.

1707
02:56:07,515 --> 02:56:11,310
this district lost $10 million in that biennium. Once again, you can't predict the future.

1708
02:56:14,025 --> 02:56:17,055
but one of the things that you can do is put in structures that allow you to adjust the changes that occur,

1709
02:56:20,390 --> 02:56:23,800
things that you know about and things that you have to adjust to on the fly. I think, when you look at where we are today,

1710
02:56:26,125 --> 02:56:27,580
it is a difficult time. You look at all the work that has been put in by staff,

1711
02:56:31,690 --> 02:56:33,910
community members, by students, by the community at large to get to this point.

1712
02:56:36,355 --> 02:56:38,350
now you got to say, we have to deconstruct something in order to maintain it going forward.

1713
02:56:41,230 --> 02:56:44,170
the other part of that to trustee sethi, working with the legislature has changed.

1714
02:56:46,210 --> 02:56:49,165
when I first join here, you could have conversations. Now that has changed where,

1715
02:56:50,725 --> 02:56:54,055
they are digging the hills in, in many ways. To have those conversations,

1716
02:56:55,990 --> 02:56:58,315
yes, let's go have those conversations. But please understand that they have a perspective that

1717
02:57:02,230 --> 02:57:02,230
is different than looks from the perspective here at the local level many times.

1718
02:57:06,325 --> 02:57:10,270
once again, you have to go through this with your eyes open, understanding that the things that you may want,

1719
02:57:12,520 --> 02:57:13,990
they may not want for you. That's why we're in a position that we're in here looking at this,

1720
02:57:16,840 --> 02:57:20,050
trying to figure out how do we maintain as much of this as possible, and go forward for the future,

1721
02:57:21,310 --> 02:57:23,290
because you're not only looking at '24, '25, but when you look at those charts,

1722
02:57:25,630 --> 02:57:27,490
you're looking at '28, '29. How do you still maintain a destination district?

1723
02:57:31,135 --> 02:57:34,060
understanding that the challenges that we're facing are not meant for us as a collective body here or the staff,

1724
02:57:37,750 --> 02:57:37,750
to hurt anybody, but it is trying to get through this to the next level.

1725
02:57:41,860 --> 02:57:43,720
how do you do that with efficacy? Because, in these challenging times,

1726
02:57:45,925 --> 02:57:45,925
there will be some things that we cannot do as a collective body that we want to do.

1727
02:57:50,485 --> 02:57:52,240
we know it's the right thing to do, but it is trying to maintain as much as possible and moving ahead,

1728
02:57:55,690 --> 02:57:58,030
trying to figure out other alternative solutions that may exist that we haven't thought about.

1729
02:58:00,100 --> 02:58:01,960
we continue to do that, so dr. Hunt, to you and your team on the continuous improvement.

1730
02:58:04,705 --> 02:58:08,530
because I know it is a challenging time to be here a long term employee to know as many people as to the staff that's over there as well,

1731
02:58:12,280 --> 02:58:14,005
to look at this and try to figure out, how do we maintain the things that we value?

1732
02:58:17,335 --> 02:58:20,290
not only the core value, but the sea bass, that we talked about, a strategic plan that has been implemented,

1733
02:58:22,600 --> 02:58:25,915
and how do you leverage those things and get to the other side of this? Because it's not going to be easy by any stretch of imagination,

1734
02:58:29,470 --> 02:58:29,470
but working collectively together as a mission statement has in it, you can get there.

1735
02:58:34,890 --> 02:58:34,890
>> I think the next section is going to be one that's going to

1736
02:58:39,040 --> 02:58:42,610
be hopefully resonate with many of our parents. These are some of the questions that we got not only from you last monday night,

1737
02:58:46,690 --> 02:58:48,565
but also a lot of e-mails, maintaining walkability for neighborhood schools as much as possible.

1738
02:58:53,605 --> 02:58:56,320
what we would specifically be doing with some of our beloved programs like dual language immersion and international baccalaureate.

1739
02:59:00,550 --> 02:59:02,605
we're going to start with walkability. >> as we look at walkability, rideability,

1740
02:59:04,900 --> 02:59:07,570
and bus routes, we have some preliminary information. It's important to note that we are still in the planning stages,

1741
02:59:11,170 --> 02:59:11,170
with more data to come from our demographers based on our recent numbers.

1742
02:59:15,265 --> 02:59:17,335
these are just approximations. Walkability means the ability to safely walk or

1743
02:59:19,810 --> 02:59:22,255
ride within two miles of a school building. This takes into account sidewalks, trails,

1744
02:59:24,610 --> 02:59:27,850
and not having to cross major roadways. The district has identified various areas where hazardous traffic conditions for

1745
02:59:32,200 --> 02:59:32,200
students who live within two miles of the campus exist,

1746
02:59:36,535 --> 02:59:36,535
and they might encounter hazardous traffic conditions when walking to and from school.

1747
02:59:41,215 --> 02:59:44,485
the district will provide transportation to these students. While we are in the preliminary stages of

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developing attendance zone options that we'll bring back to you and the school board, our goal is to reduce and not increase transportation costs.

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as we look at the walkability of the options, there may be changes in which neighborhoods would ride the bus based on distance,

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but we will not increase the cost overall. Additionally, there are some neighborhoods where students would currently ride the bus,

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and maybe they will still continue to do so. Factors might include the lack of sidewalks,

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to walk or ride to school or crossing a major highway. Based on our preliminary findings for both austin and the pinkerton option,

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the majority of students would have the safe option to ride or to walk to school.

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we would have changes in transportation, but not increases in the overall cost.

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>> assistant superintendent for curriculum and instruction, dr. Angie brooks is going to come and talk a little bit more about our plan for ib,

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as well as dli. >> perfect. Thank you. Good evening, everyone.

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as I start once again, I oversee curriculum instruction in cisd,

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and I have been here for 24 years in coppell. I'm very of the work that I have got to see and have done within this district,

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and so I just want, I'm emotional and I have allergies, so therefore it's all the thing, [laughter] so there you are.

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but hearing from the community, it's so important because also, too,

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it is very difficult to have these discussions and to talk about things when you've been

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a part of a community in a district for a long time. I also live in coppell, and so knowing that,

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I just need y'all to know, it's also an emotional journey for us as we're going through. We just appreciate listening and hearing the different pieces, and once again,

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we're really relying on our school board to also help guide these decisions and help us to go in the direction that we can go.

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but also too, we are very proud of our kids, and the things that they do in our district.

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we love our kids, we care about them. When I hear the words inclusivity and I think about

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equity and education and social emotional needs, those are all high on our priority of the things.

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you see them in our district improvement plan and our campus improvement plans. Knowing that, I'm going to get through the next pieces here within that,

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but I just felt that was on my heart to state, so that everyone needs to hear and know that.

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no, brad, I can't look at you because then I'll start going in. But I'm going to talk first just about some of the pieces specifically with ib,

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and then also we'll talk about dli. Once again, these are possibilities within things,

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but important things too. We're just all going to lose it here. [laughter] but it's important that we

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are in this position for all the reasons stated earlier,

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and so as we're doing that, I think it's important for us to dig in, and to be able to look for possible solutions.

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that is who we are as a district. We have always done that, we have been innovative in our practices for years,

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and we're going to continue to find the best way to serve kids. I think that's just [noise] important for us

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to think through as we're looking at all of our options. When we're thinking about ib,

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some of the questions that the school board had brought to us and to our team, was to look specifically,

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and I'm going to go back to my script. Now, here we are. But for staff movement with ib, we would try to move,

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[noise] and this is where also I'm getting older and need readers. Therefore, here we are.

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we would try to move as many staff who have been a part of the ib program at pinkerton to wilson as possible.

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this will help with keeping our current [noise] ib accreditation and program more streamlined,

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and ensuring we are able to start at backup with individuals who know and understand the ib program.

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we do realize that there may be adjustments needed due to pinkerton staff members who might leave the district,

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choose another opportunity to transfer to another campus, etc. However, we would like to transition as many of the current ib staff as possible.

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[noise] one of the questions that we would like to address is,

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what is the impact to wilson staff if ib moves to wilson?

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any dli staff member similar to our ib staff would be clustered to be moved to denton creek, if possible.

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we realize once again that there may be adjustments needed due to wilson staff members who might leave the district,

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choose another opportunity to transfer to another campus, etc. However, we would like to transition as many of our current dli staff as possible.

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[noise] our monolingual teachers at wilson would remain at the campus. We realize once again that there will be

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adjustments needed due to staff members who might want to leave, choose another opportunity, etc.

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another question is, how would ib staff be utilized or moved?

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we also know that there will be updated training required for any new staff, as well as current ib staff members,

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to ensure we continue to have alignment and everyone feels supported in the transition.

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we will work with the campus leadership team and our ib consultant who we have a very close relationship with as well,

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[noise] as any decisions are made to have a solid transition plan in place for all needs,

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including curriculum, resources, and professional learning needs.

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another couple of questions that had come up specifically are talking about our students.

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when we're thinking about the impact on wilson students, and are there any concerns about wilson students who may be

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remaining there at the campus jumping into the ib program? As with any other instructional program,

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we will make sure our learners feel comfortable and confident in understanding the core tenets of ib.

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we already have a partnership with our ib campus for aligned resources and working with scope and sequence for learning,

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to ensure there are ib elements throughout the campus. We are still responsible for covering,

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teaching and understanding the state required teaks and skills that we have, and using all of our assessment platforms in

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the district and our state for monitoring learner growth. We will also have opportunities for learners to connect with the campus, staff,

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and other students who may remain at wilson to be a part of the ib program.

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specifically some questions about dual language immersion. This had to do with the attrition of the staff when we were looking at numbers.

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what we have here is, some educators transition or leave the district for a variety of reasons.

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it is hard to also track specific data for attrition due to a decrease in the number of sections with enrollment overall.

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that could mean, maybe we have two kindergarten dual language sections one year and then it drops to one,

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so we've gone back and forth a little bit with that at denton creek as an example for one of them.

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however, here is the current data that's collected in our campus improvement plans for retention rate overall for denton creek and wilson.

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what I did is I captured two years of data right there from both of the last two years,

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so that you can also see that. We also continue to partner with our campuses to ensure we

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have dedicated training for dual language immersion educators, and once again, aligning resources for learning.

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the district also continues to offer a stipend for recruitment efforts for dli in case you

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weren't aware of that or the community wasn't aware of that. Another question was, what staff movement will

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occur from wilson to denton creek for dli, and also, is there a process for dli staff to remain at wilson if they choose?

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for the movement of dli, once again, we would try to move as many staff who have been

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a part of the dli program at wilson to denton creek. Once again, that would be as possible.

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this would help with keeping our current dli program structure streamlined and ensuring that we're able to continue building

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our program with individuals who know and understand the dli program and specific learner needs.

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we realize that there may be adjustments needed due to wilson staff members who might leave the district,

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choose another opportunity to transfer to another campus, or remain within there.

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however, we would like to transition as many of those dli staff as possible.

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another question that was asked was, [noise] how will cisd address

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wilson's own students currently in dli that choose to remain at wilson? Will there be enough room at wilson?

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we're running our current numbers right now. The current number of students participating specifically in dli,

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once again, not total enrollment is 204. We would once again, we would need to work with each family to

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see what their specific needs are for their learning program. The hope would be,

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that our families whose children are currently a part of the dli, dual language immersion program,

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would want to continue being a part of that program. As a reminder, our dual language immersion program

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is the district instructional program model, chosen to support our emergent bilingual spanish learners.

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we would make sure all spanish learners who qualify for this program, would also receive the transportation required per the state to meet their needs.

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there are families who currently reside in the wilson zone who also may decide to discontinue the dli program.

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I would hate that, but I know that could be the case. For those who have also and they have chosen to apply to be a part of the dli program.

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we also understand that this would be a choice for them, as we do not provide transportation for families choosing to be

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a part of our dli programs at either campus for wilson or for denton creek.

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>> brooks said 204 includes pre-k, correct?

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>> would y'all check on that number to see if it included pre-k? I'm not sure on that. I apologize.

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for the bilingual pre-k? [overlapping] I'm not sure on that right now,

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so we'll do a double check. >> for students that qualified for the program, I know that we are already transporting kids from all over the districts.

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>> we transport kids from all across the district currently that meet the criteria and eligibility serving as

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an emergent bilingual spanish learner to both campuses. We provide transportation to denton creek as well as to wilson currently.

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>> [inaudible] ranch. >> yes, sir. >> ranch richard? >> yes, sir. Any of the other campuses where you may have a learner that meets

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that eligibility. Let's see here, sorry.

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apologize. Also, there are families who currently reside in the wilson zone that do not participate in the dli program.

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these learners would remain at wilson and be a part of the ib program. However, just a reminder that there's always

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a transfer process and timeline in place for families who may want to attend another cisd elementary campus if you had

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someone that didn't necessarily want to be a part of the ib program. One of the parts of ib 2 that I do like to make sure and recognize,

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because pinkertons done such a wonderful job with it, is, while it is not a dli program,

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it does also have spanish as a tenet as a part of its core that it has to have a language piece within there

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for some of our families that may not realize that. Another question was, what is the impact on

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denton creek staff and students currently enrolled? Our denton creek staff who are currently a part of

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the dli program would remain in their roles. As always, grade levels could change or teaching assignments could change,

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at any time based on the needs of the campus in our district. Our students in the dli program at denton creek would remain in the program.

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then based on the enrollment numbers of learners, transitioning from wilson with the consolidation of dli,

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there may need to be a transition for some learners not in the dli program at denton creek to other campuses in the district.

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yes, ma'am. That did include bilingual pre-k. Thank you so much, ms. Siklar.

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>> when can we ask questions about dual immersion? Would you like us to go all the way through and then ask at the end or?

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>> as now or wait to the end. Yeah, because there may be some parts that ms.

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flores covers with pre-k that cover that part of it too. >> the concept of leveling the number of

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early childhood classrooms across the district will allow cisd to more evenly distribute the number of

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early childhood and pre-k students that attend the designated schools? This plan allows for students to attend campuses closer to their home campus,

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if not at their home campus. It does not include adding pre-k to all campuses.

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in 2023, 2024, we had four elementary early childhood campuses.

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we added canyon ranch this year as a fifth campus for the '24, '25 school year.

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the renovation of valley ranch includes space for pre-k classrooms. With or without campus consolidation,

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we would like to prioritize the locations across feeder patterns so that more learners are closer to their home campus.

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families that attend pre-k not on their home campus, do not always feel the connection to their k5 home-zoned campus.

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allowing students to attend pre-k at their home campus or closer to their neighborhood,

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would increase the likelihood of students and families feeling connected to their home campus and being part of the school community.

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last year, we launched a specific campaign to build that connection between the pre-k families and their home campus.

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we hosted a variety of events with pre-k families and incoming kindergartners to bond and interact.

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this included popsicles in the park, the pre-k fare, and kindergarten roundup.

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we will continue to build on that campaign and encourage the connection between families and their designated home campus.

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as we move through the school year, we will share more details about the plans to build that connection,

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relationships, and engagement between our early childhood families and their home-zoned campus.

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>> pause now. >> could we go to the dli slide, please?

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>> go back. >> to the dli slide.

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I know there's been a lot of research and you guys have gone through a lot of

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permutation combination before coming up with the proposals you have come up,

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but help me understand this. From this slide, what I'm seeing that the number of

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classes in wilson of dli are more stable than denton creek.

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that's why the retention rate has shot higher. >> basically know what a board member,

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and I'm not sure who, I apologize and right now, just lots of questions have come our way.

1888
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but this was a question specifically about teacher attrition, and so I wasn't sure.

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when you're looking at this, this is the rates that you would see based on how many teacher were retained at the campuses.

1890
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but this also could vary based on teachers who were leaving, let's say,

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if they decided to stay home and they were having a child and they did not come back,

1892
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if they left our district and went somewhere else as well. This is just looking at that specific attrition.

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it has nothing to do with class. >> just the class number going up. It's not just about that. >> it's literally just educator attrition rate.

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>> I'll ignore that comment. But help me understand why we reached the decision of ib program moving to wilson.

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I totally understand we have to for the cost savings to actually work and for

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all the programs because we really value all the choices we give to our learners and we want to preserve all the choices.

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they may look a little bit different after consolidation, but we want to preserve all the choices for our learners.

1898
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how did we land up with this solution

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of ib being at wilson and dli program at denton creek?

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why not the other way round? Why not ib program at denton creek and dli at wilson?

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>> well, there were a couple of reasons behind that.

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one, [noise] the close proximity of wilson to other pinkerton attendance zones.

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when you look at that map, it's not exactly, but.

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>> because pinkerton has 50% of the ib program from that zone.

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rest of the 50% are- >> from all over the region. >> from all over. That number is just in less than 200,

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and that's why I was thinking why. I'm sure there is some reason,

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and you can get back to us later on. I don't want to put anybody because I know the number of hours you guys have put in.

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>> no, we can talk through about some of that. Because we were really fluctuating between two schools.

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there was another school that's close too and I'll say what it is. It was cottonwood creek for transparency,

1910
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and so either one of those could have gone, why we picked wilson is yes,

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there could be some negative things about combining the dli program. We heard that from some of our parents and students.

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we've heard that from some educators as well. There could also be a positive of putting that program together when you look at

1913
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resources and efficiency as well as even staffing,

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so that you're not just a one person team. You've got other team members.

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there was a lot of discussion about that and we felt like wilson made sense,

1916
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again, based on its close proximity to some of those pinkerton neighborhoods.

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like dr. Brooks said, the spanish tenet at ib doesn't replace dli.

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we're not saying it does, but that is a component that's already there that could you know,

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hopefully help make a very difficult situation a little bit less difficult.

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>> remember, 711 is looking mainly at facilities.

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it's not programs. Programs are a piece of it. We were looking at how are we going to

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consolidate neighborhood schools and still maintain neighborhoods?

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in order to do that, that is really why we were looking at, in close proximity,

1924
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where can we move this large group of students from pinkerton so that that program can go with it.

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their staff are trained. The staff know how to run ib. Ib is different.

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it's this unique program and we need to keep that cluster of teachers together,

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and where can we move that? Wilson really was the most logical choice.

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dr. Hunt just shared, when we looked at cottonwood creek, it wouldn't fit.

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it would put that campus over capacity.

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we wanted to combine and we've talked for several years about combining the dli program into consolidating it.

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for the reasons dr. Hunt just shared, really about efficiency of staff. It's about making that a program that can thrive together.

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it was like, if we can bring those together, and then move that pinkerton to wilson,

1933
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it will allow us to really bring efficiency into two great programs and keep two programs of choice and allow them to thrive to more students.

1934
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we wanted to keep the cohort of teachers together and we wanted to keep the cohort of students at pinkerton together as much as possible.

1935
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I think that's really why that choice allowed us to because the numbers would work.

1936
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>> putting it in different words, seeing a bigger picture,

1937
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keeping the values of walkability and the neighborhoods good. This made the most perfect sense.

1938
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>> it did. >> my second part to that question is, and we heard that from community today quite a bit of how much anxiety community has

1939
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about being able to be transported these dli kids from wilson because they won't able to walk down to the schools,

1940
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then they'll need either bus or their own transportation and a lot of these parents' kids can miss a bus.

1941
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they don't have the situation where parents' jobs may not allow them to drop them to school.

1942
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constrain all of that.

1943
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I know we are still in a planning phase and there's a lot of planning to be done. Are there some initial thoughts that we had at the sport

1944
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and some assurance we can provide to these parents of dli program?

1945
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that how we are going to take care of those kids because we really want every parent,

1946
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every kid who is in the dli program to continue with those choices. >> I agree.

1947
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>> what are the initial tasks that staff and from

1948
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the district we can give to these parents and learners so they continue with their choice?

1949
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>> I'm going to give you two pieces of information and then I'm going to pass it off to dr. Brooks because that's really her area of expertise.

1950
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it's important to know that 50% of the students that are currently in the dli program at wilson already take a bus.

1951
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they are not zoned. 50% of the students currently take a bus already to wilson for the dli program.

1952
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>> there's still 100 kids. >> sorry, that meet their emergent bilingual. Thank you for clarifying that.

1953
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that meet their emergent bilingual. 50% of the emergent bilingual students. Thank you for correcting that.

1954
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>> not 204, but those that qualify as emergent bilingual? >> correct.

1955
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>> they're all important kids and we love all of them, but that is a group, as you heard from some parents,

1956
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that we do need to make sure that we are helping to take down barriers and give them the supports that they need.

1957
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the program is for the emergent bilingual children first. Others benefit from it and we're grateful for that.

1958
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>> that's the state mandate. >> state mandated part of it. For denton creek, it's about 48% of the emergent bilingual students who

1959
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qualify for the program take a bus to denton creek.

1960
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it's nearly 50 for the emergent bilingual students. It's important to keep that in your mind.

1961
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to keep in our mind that what we're trying to do is bring that efficiency together.

1962
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while there will be students who will be impacted and have to do transportation,

1963
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there are already currently students who are having to deal with that, and so how can we look at those numbers and bring all of that together,

1964
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and meet the needs of all of our students and take into account, help those families.

1965
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I'm going to pass it off to dr. Brooks to share that part of it. >> I think too a big thing and this is something

1966
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that in coppell as a community that people may not realize. The dual language immersion program,

1967
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and I had done a presentation on this a couple of months ago.

1968
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it was some time within there and I wish I could quote that right now. I'm sure that ms. Brown could probably dig that up.

1969
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but specifically about the why we have chosen dual language and the benefits

1970
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that it can have for biliteracy, and just the different things. I think that's important to note that not every district has

1971
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dual language as the chosen piece that we have. We actually have it for spanish as a district.

1972
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>> a big star destination district. >> that's exactly right, mr. Sethi.

1973
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noting that, I think it's important when we're thinking about our programs that we are able to offer.

1974
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this is a way that we are meeting the federal and state requirements for our emergent bilingual learners that are spanish.

1975
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we also have a very large population within our district that are other languages that are

1976
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spoken where we have learners who are qualifying and meeting eligibility due to their specific language.

1977
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how we are supporting those emergent bilinguals also looks different than necessarily the dual language immersion program.

1978
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I'm not going to get into all the logistics on all the things right there within that because I can get a little curriculum heavy on it.

1979
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but noting that right now, probably between, I'd say,

1980
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90 and 92% of our pre-k learners in cisd,

1981
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meet the eligibility of emergent bilingual. They are getting on buses from the southern side,

1982
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a lot of times of our district right now, and across the district as well. But a lot of our learners are coming up and we're busing them every

1983
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day to campuses based on once again, that eligibility and meeting those needs.

1984
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once again, that whole equity piece with me within education and making sure we are doing everything we can to not only be inclusive,

1985
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but make sure that we are equitable and also following the legal guidelines that are required within that,

1986
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we have to make sure we're taking care of our families and our kids. Noting that we would do,

1987
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of course, all the things that are required, but also too, I would love for anyone who is also software update.

1988
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lovely. But also too, who is choosing to be a part of dli.

1989
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I realize and understand wilson is an amazing campus. Denton creek is an amazing campus and once again,

1990
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it's that back and forth. You could have gone to either and said, hey, because the big piece we're having to look at is right now,

1991
03:24:04,650 --> 03:24:04,650
the efficiency between it and also being able to continue this specific model.

1992
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this is crucial, in my opinion, that we continue this model for the reasons that our families and

1993
03:24:14,640 --> 03:24:14,640
our kids and our educators and our campus principals are speaking to.

1994
03:24:18,960 --> 03:24:22,530
right now, this is just once again, it's not a decision, it's one way that you as a board can look at and say,

1995
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how are we more efficient if we were to do this with our dli program?

1996
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I just want to remind of those pieces as well. >> once again, that's what my question is,

1997
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and to make these hard decisions is knowing that we have plans

1998
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and solutions in place to help these dli learners and parents to move from being part.

1999
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>> they're home. Exactly. >> in home campus to a different campus goes a long way in making those decisions.

2000
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>> yes. Definitely. >> I would also ask you to remind everyone of

2001
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the advanced spanish course that's offered at coppell middle school north for students that have been involved in the program.

2002
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close proximity to denton creek, we'll just help with some of that planning and alignment too.

2003
03:25:16,425 --> 03:25:20,175
not that it hasn't already been occurring, not that wilson's that much farther. But again, they'll be very close at both wilson and denton creek,

2004
03:25:27,750 --> 03:25:30,240
if it merges and it's at denton creek dli. >> one of the things, honestly,

2005
03:25:32,670 --> 03:25:35,160
this one when I was looking at it last week is the one that probably gave me the most pause,

2006
03:25:38,565 --> 03:25:41,520
just from logistics and thinking it through. But one thing we haven't mentioned and I thought it was as I

2007
03:25:45,570 --> 03:25:45,570
reflected on it in the last day or so that really popped to my mind.

2008
03:25:50,340 --> 03:25:50,340
speak to staffing at denton creek in terms of dr. Cardoza,

2009
03:25:55,800 --> 03:25:58,680
when I remember, kristen and dr. Hunt, when you guys brought her and introduced her to the board,

2010
03:26:00,930 --> 03:26:00,930
that was a big I think piece of that introduction was

2011
03:26:05,835 --> 03:26:08,400
her personal professional background and the ability to enhance the program because of that.

2012
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I look at that as when we talk about choice and how do we make our programs bigger and better.

2013
03:26:19,110 --> 03:26:21,705
I didn't know if we wanted to speak on that. That obviously falls into later transition should this be what ultimately happens.

2014
03:26:27,390 --> 03:26:30,420
but to me I think that's a big positive for this. >> I think the one thing that we can always speak to

2015
03:26:33,120 --> 03:26:36,030
as a district is that we have amazing staff. We hire amazing people that are here and are very

2016
03:26:39,240 --> 03:26:39,240
dedicated to work with our kids and our families and to learn and grow.

2017
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when you're talking consolidation, there's going to have to be some conversation around some of those inner details,

2018
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and right now, we're not ready to have those discussions within that at this time.

2019
03:26:55,470 --> 03:26:58,065
but once again, just like was stated earlier, we will be taking care of our staff.

2020
03:26:59,955 --> 03:27:02,580
that's what we do as a district, and so we need to also keep that at the forefront that when we're taking care of our staff,

2021
03:27:04,860 --> 03:27:08,400
what does that mean and how are we being very respectful, but also too working with them? Are within any difficult decision or change.

2022
03:27:12,380 --> 03:27:15,590
>> can I cut you off? >> I think there's three of us, so you go for it.

2023
03:27:18,135 --> 03:27:21,320
>> go for it. Somebody >> concentration risk. Moving students to one campus,

2024
03:27:25,905 --> 03:27:25,905
and just got through the house bill 3 goals that we just passed, talking about that.

2025
03:27:31,545 --> 03:27:34,740
can you talk a little bit about that intentionality on how those things come together looking at the data and figuring out

2026
03:27:37,920 --> 03:27:41,400
solutions to ensure that students will have the opportunity to be successful on the campus collectively if you brought them together?

2027
03:27:45,420 --> 03:27:48,510
>> yes. I think that one of the things that we've done very well, especially within the last few years when we're thinking about

2028
03:27:50,730 --> 03:27:53,355
how we're assessing growth of our students, we have not only those aligned resources,

2029
03:27:55,560 --> 03:27:57,270
but also those data pieces, not only our state assessment pieces that we have,

2030
03:27:59,820 --> 03:28:02,550
but also too, our internal pieces. Just a couple of examples, nwea map, when you're looking at mclass,

2031
03:28:05,250 --> 03:28:07,980
when you're looking at some of our just screeners as a whole for day to day instruction, informative assessments.

2032
03:28:11,595 --> 03:28:11,595
all of that is very important to make sure that wilson has these pieces,

2033
03:28:16,545 --> 03:28:18,180
denton creek has these pieces. We have that common alignment when you're thinking about any movement.

2034
03:28:21,300 --> 03:28:23,270
I mentioned that earlier with ib. While ib has its tenants and its units of

2035
03:28:25,410 --> 03:28:28,200
study and how it may roll out particular lessons, it's really important to also note that they are still held

2036
03:28:31,590 --> 03:28:34,980
to the standards from the state of texas as well as that level of growth that we expect to see as a district through all of

2037
03:28:38,210 --> 03:28:38,210
our benchmarks that we have and our specific assessment pieces as well.

2038
03:28:44,960 --> 03:28:47,580
>> I have some thoughts around this one. First of all, it was very helpful and I want to make sure I understand this correctly.

2039
03:28:51,135 --> 03:28:51,135
it was helpful to hear and so what I heard,

2040
03:28:55,620 --> 03:28:59,595
was that 50% of both campuses, denton creek and wilson, so to only put words in your mouth,

2041
03:29:03,960 --> 03:29:03,960
50% of those spanish-speaking learners walk to their campus.

2042
03:29:09,015 --> 03:29:12,870
>> no, it was the bus. [overlapping] >> both have the same amount that bus.

2043
03:29:16,125 --> 03:29:19,320
then what about the other 50%? Are they walking to denton creek as well?

2044
03:29:22,590 --> 03:29:22,590
how do we know? Again, I don't expect answers right now.

2045
03:29:27,210 --> 03:29:28,250
>> but that's a question that we can make that we have at. >> but that's a question I want to know. Because I think that has really popped through

2046
03:29:32,250 --> 03:29:32,250
this past week is how does this affect the community that walks directly.

2047
03:29:38,700 --> 03:29:42,660
again, I don't necessarily need to answer, but it's something that pops in my mind. How many are walking to denton creek and then how many walk from wilson?

2048
03:29:48,540 --> 03:29:50,745
secondly, as a piece of that, is how are we engaging in communicating with our spanish-speaking community on this?

2049
03:29:57,465 --> 03:30:00,000
I would like to know how we are intentionally making sure this information is getting out. That's my second one.

2050
03:30:03,090 --> 03:30:05,430
my third one is I feel really strongly one of my core decision-making filters for this is,

2051
03:30:09,060 --> 03:30:12,360
does this change actually improve the program? I really want some clarity,

2052
03:30:14,445 --> 03:30:18,210
maybe a one-pager on how does this move improve the ib program and how does this move improve the dual language immersion?

2053
03:30:23,865 --> 03:30:26,955
having existed a million years in this district, I wanted to enroll my kindergartner who turns 23 tomorrow,

2054
03:30:30,720 --> 03:30:30,720
I wanted to enroll him in the dual language immersion when he was at austin elementary.

2055
03:30:35,235 --> 03:30:38,970
they close it down and took two years off when they decided to do wilson and then he did not take advantage, so he was unable to do it.

2056
03:30:43,155 --> 03:30:45,840
I know that there was a lot of discussion then of taking it from one concentrated place, moving it to two.

2057
03:30:48,645 --> 03:30:48,645
I'd really like to know how this actually improves the program.

2058
03:30:53,205 --> 03:30:53,205
then my last one that I want to say out loud is both these schools,

2059
03:31:00,720 --> 03:31:04,695
and we're talking austin 2 and I see two principals in this room. All of these places have principals and a whole staff,

2060
03:31:09,000 --> 03:31:11,460
and they also have programs, like we've heard, wilson has an amazing fine arts musical.

2061
03:31:16,100 --> 03:31:18,360
I know this is going to be addressed, but how does that work when it consolidates with

2062
03:31:21,675 --> 03:31:21,675
the staff that's going to be consolidated?

2063
03:31:25,965 --> 03:31:25,965
how does that affect the culture of that school?

2064
03:31:32,300 --> 03:31:35,400
that is just something I keep thinking as I hear. I think that's part of the anxiety is

2065
03:31:38,280 --> 03:31:38,280
that it wouldn't just close pinkerton to some extent,

2066
03:31:45,375 --> 03:31:49,305
it would also really change wilson. You're closing two schools there. I know that is very true for austin as we're thinking of all this.

2067
03:31:53,190 --> 03:31:53,190
how are we going to address that very prickly problem?

2068
03:31:58,965 --> 03:32:01,245
>> it is a very prickly problem, and I think that people are just

2069
03:32:03,600 --> 03:32:06,420
realistic and understanding that when you consolidate something, it's not going to be the same.

2070
03:32:08,205 --> 03:32:11,730
it could, in many ways be better, but it will never be the same. I think we have to just understand that and know that.

2071
03:32:14,475 --> 03:32:17,085
our commitment is on our employees. We're going to do what we can to find a space for everybody.

2072
03:32:20,190 --> 03:32:22,680
that's why we've cut a lot of positions and we didn't backfill a lot of positions or fill them,

2073
03:32:25,110 --> 03:32:27,465
so some positions are open. You don't want to say if smith elementary school closes,

2074
03:32:33,645 --> 03:32:37,140
then this principal automatically gets something, it's not going to work that way. We don't know what that something is,

2075
03:32:38,820 --> 03:32:41,760
but our commitment is to take care of all of our employees. That prickly part is on us.

2076
03:32:43,680 --> 03:32:46,650
but for our students and our community, it's going to be different.

2077
03:32:48,705 --> 03:32:52,320
different can sometimes be better, different can sometimes be worse, different can sometimes be the same,

2078
03:32:54,120 --> 03:32:56,010
but it will be different. It is so hard for our community because we haven't had to do this in years.

2079
03:33:00,120 --> 03:33:02,295
remember back in the day when we were fast growth, we were opening new schools all the time.

2080
03:33:04,680 --> 03:33:07,530
you just got it down and you knew you're going to the new school, you're going to do this, you're going to do all that,

2081
03:33:09,060 --> 03:33:10,770
and it was all fun and exciting, but there were also people that didn't want to leave their old school.

2082
03:33:13,470 --> 03:33:15,615
we haven't had to do that in a long time. The reason why we're looking at consolidation now is for efficiency and budget,

2083
03:33:21,030 --> 03:33:24,165
and those are very different reasons too. Part of that is once a decision is made by the board,

2084
03:33:28,110 --> 03:33:30,510
we don't want to start meeting with a bunch of staff right now that may not be affected by it.

2085
03:33:33,120 --> 03:33:34,920
people are already on pins and needles, just wondering what's going to happen.

2086
03:33:37,155 --> 03:33:37,155
one, we're committed to engaging with our spanish-speaking community members,

2087
03:33:42,530 --> 03:33:44,690
and so we've been able to communicate things in spanish, we'll continue to do that, do more of that.

2088
03:33:46,790 --> 03:33:49,670
our plan was to have two meetings, one at wilson and one at denton creek,

2089
03:33:51,695 --> 03:33:55,655
so the families could come to those, and we could talk about all of that too. But if there's no change in all of that,

2090
03:33:57,740 --> 03:33:57,740
we want to know what the direction is before we start doing those pieces of that.

2091
03:34:02,775 --> 03:34:05,130
I can appreciate board members want to know every little detail of that so that you can make the decision.

2092
03:34:08,115 --> 03:34:10,650
but what we are asking for you all to do is make the decision with the information that you have,

2093
03:34:13,530 --> 03:34:16,890
what more do you need to help make the decision for you, and we'll bring that forward.

2094
03:34:18,270 --> 03:34:22,260
but some of that is a little bit of trust that we're going to take care of our people and not needing to know exactly what that's going to look like.

2095
03:34:26,610 --> 03:34:29,775
we do have plans, we've been working on tentative, and even more concrete plans.

2096
03:34:31,800 --> 03:34:31,800
but some of that we don't know until you all help us with some direction.

2097
03:34:36,345 --> 03:34:39,720
>> yeah. I get that dr. Hunt, very much. I understand that completely. To answer that question in this space,

2098
03:34:41,970 --> 03:34:45,030
what would I need? I think I would like to know more of how consolidating dual language actually improves the program.

2099
03:34:48,900 --> 03:34:50,925
I think I need more clarity in that space. Then, again, with that walkability question.

2100
03:34:54,690 --> 03:34:54,690
>> I want to, again, respond to what I said earlier, we're continuous improvement.

2101
03:34:59,490 --> 03:35:03,450
we have heard that we're not communicating enough with our spanish-speaking families, so we can bump that up.

2102
03:35:04,860 --> 03:35:07,980
we have the capacity to do that, we have some systems in place to do that, we will do that.

2103
03:35:09,450 --> 03:35:09,450
>> I think I would wrap up with saying,

2104
03:35:14,930 --> 03:35:17,790
big idea, we're doing the right thing as a district when people are invested and love their schools.

2105
03:35:21,330 --> 03:35:21,330
coppell isd is doing exactly what we should be doing as a district when people do

2106
03:35:26,190 --> 03:35:26,190
not want their schools closed and they understand that there is an amazing culture there.

2107
03:35:30,960 --> 03:35:30,960
to your point, that's not going to stop after september 30th,

2108
03:35:35,580 --> 03:35:38,750
that's only going to continue and grow. That was just a side note. But to actually

2109
03:35:42,300 --> 03:35:45,105
answer your question of how can I make the decision, it would be helpful to know those thing.

2110
03:35:48,530 --> 03:35:48,530
>> I just had one question that piggybacked on lee's because I had the walkability.

2111
03:35:54,465 --> 03:35:57,600
knowing how many kids are getting bused to either of those schools is one thing, but how many kids that are not getting bused or walking

2112
03:36:01,245 --> 03:36:01,245
is a lingering question for me too and attached to that.

2113
03:36:06,660 --> 03:36:09,840
I'm only more familiar with this because wilson is more on my regular routine of life than denton creek is.

2114
03:36:12,975 --> 03:36:16,875
but I regularly see yard signs up in spanish about evening activities and scouts and hearing people talk about after-school programs.

2115
03:36:21,945 --> 03:36:21,945
I do or do not know how much of that is going on at denton creek, so full disclosure.

2116
03:36:28,125 --> 03:36:31,215
but it does make me wonder if we consolidate dli programs to one campus regardless of which one it is,

2117
03:36:37,520 --> 03:36:37,520
what things could we put in place?

2118
03:36:41,640 --> 03:36:45,615
could there be two different times that buses leave school, for instance? What things can we put in place to help ensure

2119
03:36:48,690 --> 03:36:51,870
that the kids can be part of that campus community, and it's not only dependent upon the transportation that mom

2120
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or dad may be able to provide? I don't know what our socioeconomic piece of this

2121
03:37:04,245 --> 03:37:06,630
looks like at the two campuses for our kids that are zoned to those campuses are not getting bused.

2122
03:37:09,345 --> 03:37:09,345
but if we consolidate,

2123
03:37:13,560 --> 03:37:16,665
I realize it's some degree of hardship on someone, but I also don't want to put an undue or maybe an unintended burden on a group

2124
03:37:21,900 --> 03:37:21,900
of people that maybe we just hadn't seen some of the different aspects of the situation.

2125
03:37:27,330 --> 03:37:27,330
that campus community piece is really big for me on how we're going to

2126
03:37:32,610 --> 03:37:34,740
help make that possible outside of the school days or maybe with extended school hours or something.

2127
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that would be a piece I would need to know. >> we've talked around that knowing that whether it was at wilson or denton creek,

2128
03:37:47,385 --> 03:37:47,385
if dli was combined into one campus,

2129
03:37:53,445 --> 03:37:57,030
you're automatically reducing some of those travel costs because we don't have kids coming from all over the district to two different places,

2130
03:38:00,390 --> 03:38:03,390
they're only coming to one place. We're still transporting kids, there's still that component,

2131
03:38:04,905 --> 03:38:08,040
but that could open up the door then to maybe twice a week, we do a late activities of bus,

2132
03:38:09,870 --> 03:38:12,435
we do a tutoring, whatever we need to do. We've done things like that in the past.

2133
03:38:14,445 --> 03:38:14,445
certainly, when you have some title funds that can help with some of that,

2134
03:38:18,660 --> 03:38:22,605
we can look through that. Those are things that we would be committed to doing to make sure that continuity of services,

2135
03:38:25,335 --> 03:38:27,390
as well as destination school district, stays at the forefront.

2136
03:38:30,830 --> 03:38:30,830
>> as we all are absorbing a lot of information over here

2137
03:38:35,250 --> 03:38:35,250
getting a lot more details than last week.

2138
03:38:39,345 --> 03:38:39,345
something you said, to be exact,

2139
03:38:43,440 --> 03:38:43,440
a word you said made me pause for a second, trust.

2140
03:38:49,800 --> 03:38:49,800
I think we all realize as board of trustees,

2141
03:38:54,630 --> 03:38:57,600
we'll have to make some decisions which are a little bit ambiguous because all the details are yet to come,

2142
03:39:01,335 --> 03:39:01,335
and we didn't become destination district by fluke,

2143
03:39:05,970 --> 03:39:05,970
we've become destination district by making great decisions year after year

2144
03:39:11,670 --> 03:39:11,670
and extreme hard work from the staff and the vision you have provided to this district.

2145
03:39:18,435 --> 03:39:18,435
this trust has to not only come from us board onto the staff,

2146
03:39:24,345 --> 03:39:27,105
who has proven to us year after year, but collectively as from the community to

2147
03:39:30,090 --> 03:39:33,480
have that trust on our superintendent and on our staff, that you guys haven't let us down,

2148
03:39:36,000 --> 03:39:36,000
and during these most tough times you have seen in recent years,

2149
03:39:40,665 --> 03:39:40,665
you would stand up to the occasion and go the extra mile to appeal to every parent,

2150
03:39:50,130 --> 03:39:51,990
especially in this case, in wilson dli program is a factor of equity because of

2151
03:39:56,775 --> 03:39:56,775
certain socioeconomical conditions of some of the parents who

2152
03:40:00,915 --> 03:40:00,915
have no other choice but to walk to the school that you will go the extra route,

2153
03:40:05,460 --> 03:40:07,560
and I can say for me personally, we have the trust on you that over the coming months,

2154
03:40:10,245 --> 03:40:12,735
whatever decision the board makes, your staff and you will go the extra mile to take care of our community.

2155
03:40:19,755 --> 03:40:23,340
>> because it's not like we haven't been working on some of these plans, we still don't know what the board's going to do,

2156
03:40:25,590 --> 03:40:28,380
so we want to try to be as focused as possible, and we also know that there's going to be something that we're going to miss.

2157
03:40:32,070 --> 03:40:35,940
I can't say today exactly what something's going to look like because we want to keep getting input not only from our parents and community members,

2158
03:40:39,630 --> 03:40:43,590
but our staff members are giving us lots of input and making sure that nothing falls between the cracks and be as transparent as we can be with what we know at this time.

2159
03:40:48,240 --> 03:40:51,915
but, again, help you all do what you all need to do to make your decision, but also provide some reassurances for the community that we're

2160
03:40:55,125 --> 03:40:55,125
never going to be intending to leave anybody out in a bad place.

2161
03:40:59,775 --> 03:41:02,850
>> guys on the right side, I know we are all looking left. [laughter] do you have any comments?

2162
03:41:05,055 --> 03:41:07,095
>> I want question, dr. Hunt, that currently the format that we have for our dli program,

2163
03:41:11,370 --> 03:41:14,630
how long it has been like that? How did we start that way?

2164
03:41:17,910 --> 03:41:17,910
what was the process behind the current format?

2165
03:41:25,400 --> 03:41:28,530
>> [overlapping] I'm going back in years in my mind, I'm certainly going, okay, hold on [overlapping].

2166
03:41:29,850 --> 03:41:32,775
>> I forgot austin, but you're right, it was a austin. It was eventually added dli.

2167
03:41:35,355 --> 03:41:37,800
mr. Hill, you might remember more specific. I don't remember of the top of my head.

2168
03:41:39,720 --> 03:41:42,420
>> I think all three of those campuses that we're talking about have had to play a part in that.

2169
03:41:45,180 --> 03:41:47,205
but I think also not only was that, but also the structure of what the program looks

2170
03:41:49,800 --> 03:41:52,545
like because the most recent person that was here, put that structure in place that we're talking about now because

2171
03:41:56,010 --> 03:41:59,970
we've had different models of that program as well. That makes a big difference,

2172
03:42:01,740 --> 03:42:03,720
and now with the current person in place, dr. Neena biswas, there are a lot of working parts in it.

2173
03:42:08,640 --> 03:42:11,490
I think it's a complicated conversation for the night, we may have to go back and do a little analysis

2174
03:42:13,470 --> 03:42:16,305
before you get an answer to that question, but yeah. >> yes. I'm also thinking that it must be at that time many years ago,

2175
03:42:19,920 --> 03:42:19,920
like efficiency of the program plus need of the community and our students,

2176
03:42:25,755 --> 03:42:27,300
those kind of factors. I'm just trying to use those same factors,

2177
03:42:32,640 --> 03:42:32,640
same lens that if we were to make some change in the program,

2178
03:42:38,505 --> 03:42:38,505
are we still thinking through the same factors?

2179
03:42:42,855 --> 03:42:45,120
yes, budget is a big thing, but at the same time, we're also looking through so many other lenses.

2180
03:42:48,810 --> 03:42:51,630
this is just my eye wonder question. >> definitely looking at needs,

2181
03:42:53,790 --> 03:42:57,735
I think that's your ultimate important piece within there. I think that one of the things that this has risen

2182
03:43:00,150 --> 03:43:02,775
is also two goes back to the enrollment piece. That has been intertwined throughout when you're looking at enrollment as a whole,

2183
03:43:06,435 --> 03:43:08,880
it's not just impacting other campuses, it's also impacting this particular program at most.

2184
03:43:11,805 --> 03:43:14,505
>> yes, and no matter what option, even a single small change we make,

2185
03:43:18,390 --> 03:43:18,390
it's going to impact each and every campus and each and every family.

2186
03:43:24,120 --> 03:43:24,120
that's that. I'm also really proud of all of us

2187
03:43:30,375 --> 03:43:30,375
keeping our focus on prioritizing programs over buildings.

2188
03:43:37,410 --> 03:43:37,410
I think that's the way we have been doing.

2189
03:43:41,805 --> 03:43:41,805
I'm really also banking on our history of taking care of our staff,

2190
03:43:47,565 --> 03:43:50,220
our teachers, and our students. This is a big change,

2191
03:43:52,140 --> 03:43:54,150
but at the same time over and over, we are brainstorming on that point that;

2192
03:43:59,940 --> 03:44:02,265
are we making sure that we're meeting the needs? Are we making sure that our staff and our teachers are going to be taken care of?

2193
03:44:07,275 --> 03:44:07,275
I was really touched by some of our parents wanting to help.

2194
03:44:11,325 --> 03:44:13,710
they were like, how can we help? I would like to say that waiter is one way to do that,

2195
03:44:18,135 --> 03:44:18,135
that's how the community can help.

2196
03:44:24,420 --> 03:44:24,420
>> then I was just thinking that we recently saw

2197
03:44:29,350 --> 03:44:29,350
the campus improvement plan and the district improvement plan from you, dr. Brooks?

2198
03:44:35,080 --> 03:44:35,080
how's that going to be impacted with any change?

2199
03:44:41,470 --> 03:44:44,185
>> no, that's a great question. I think as always, one of the things that we do that's a component of

2200
03:44:46,840 --> 03:44:50,785
those plans is a needs assessment that has to be done as a whole. When you're thinking about any needs that you

2201
03:44:52,870 --> 03:44:56,590
may have as you're going into the next school year, all of this would come into play. You would see the district plan,

2202
03:44:58,120 --> 03:45:00,100
you would see strands within that to say, how are we going to make sure and help those campuses if we're having

2203
03:45:03,595 --> 03:45:05,740
any transition within the campus that may be receiving or a campus that may be changing somewhat,

2204
03:45:07,990 --> 03:45:10,420
whatever it may be, that's something else that we would make sure and prioritize that as an important piece.

2205
03:45:13,255 --> 03:45:15,280
I think it's that relationships when you're thinking about the core value right there within that,

2206
03:45:17,470 --> 03:45:21,385
and then also to thinking about how are we accommodating for those needs. I was in the classroom as a fifth grade educator at

2207
03:45:25,000 --> 03:45:25,000
town center elementary back in the day when the elementary closed.

2208
03:45:29,690 --> 03:45:33,330
I know exactly what we did and how that felt. Also to trying to receive families that had gone

2209
03:45:36,630 --> 03:45:39,780
through for several years and they had had their home campus.what that feels like from a staff member perspective

2210
03:45:43,250 --> 03:45:47,170
to making sure that your kids are feeling that they are a part of, and they were town center texans,

2211
03:45:48,490 --> 03:45:51,070
but they were still the [inaudible] back in the day, all the different things.

2212
03:45:52,645 --> 03:45:55,330
I just think those are the things that we're going to have to bring to the forefront to ensure that they're part of our plans,

2213
03:45:58,360 --> 03:46:01,630
but also it's the connection that we have with others that will make the difference in any change within that.

2214
03:46:05,080 --> 03:46:07,420
>> which is a good see to the next slide. >> yes, sir. >> I know there'll be more dli questions,

2215
03:46:09,610 --> 03:46:09,610
but because the original richard j lee became new tech,

2216
03:46:13,630 --> 03:46:15,790
it's a good time to transfer. [overlapping] >> thank you so much, dr. Hunt.

2217
03:46:17,710 --> 03:46:17,710
as our final piece right here when you're thinking about programs this evening,

2218
03:46:22,585 --> 03:46:24,280
as a district in a campus, we've been working on increasing enrollment for several years,

2219
03:46:27,340 --> 03:46:29,950
including areas such as marketing, shadow days, recruiting days, and community engagement experiences specifically for new tech,

2220
03:46:34,075 --> 03:46:35,950
when we're thinking about that as a campus. If it is a board, you decide to not consolidate new tech.

2221
03:46:39,475 --> 03:46:41,440
with chs and chs 9, there will be an action plan created this school year with

2222
03:46:44,980 --> 03:46:44,980
a defined timeline to grow the choice high school program.

2223
03:46:49,195 --> 03:46:52,660
also, two, this would include improving our enrollment numbers, improving operating cost and teacher efficiency,

2224
03:46:55,360 --> 03:46:57,370
creating measurable data for the district and our board to evaluate the program following a specific timeline.

2225
03:47:00,820 --> 03:47:02,740
when I'm putting an approximate timeline, just so you'll know what I'm thinking about growth on my end because I'm a data geek.

2226
03:47:06,430 --> 03:47:08,260
you're looking at 2-3 years. I just need you to know if that is the decision of a board to say, "hey,

2227
03:47:12,130 --> 03:47:12,130
we're looking either a re-brand or you're looking at how are we really growing,

2228
03:47:16,540 --> 03:47:19,660
and what are the next steps within that, " you also have to give it time to be implemented and making sure that that change were to happen.

2229
03:47:22,675 --> 03:47:24,370
I wanted to state that on that end, as well as I like an intentional plan.

2230
03:47:26,890 --> 03:47:28,540
you've read my plans before. That is very much a part that needs to come into play within that.

2231
03:47:32,245 --> 03:47:35,080
another question that was asked specifically is, at what point do the finances of a choice high school become unsustainable?

2232
03:47:39,520 --> 03:47:42,640
at this time, we are seeing a need and we're concerned about the financial implications of sustaining the current program.

2233
03:47:46,270 --> 03:47:48,730
I think that that needs to be stated because that is something that has come up when you're looking at some of our pieces.

2234
03:47:51,520 --> 03:47:55,015
then one more question that was asked specifically around new tech was, do we need to reconsider shuttles?

2235
03:47:57,160 --> 03:47:57,160
as a district, we're continuing to review that specific needs,

2236
03:48:01,255 --> 03:48:04,285
but there are some needs for shuttles at this time, based on the specific classes,

2237
03:48:06,640 --> 03:48:08,920
especially our fine arts and athletics that we're thinking about supports for new tech learners to be able to attend.

2238
03:48:17,370 --> 03:48:17,370
>> we felt it was important that as decisions are made around our high school programs,

2239
03:48:23,440 --> 03:48:26,530
that we share what the enrollment trend data has been of our high schools from 2008 until today.

2240
03:48:30,505 --> 03:48:30,505
an optimal capacity for the building in the program at

2241
03:48:34,510 --> 03:48:34,510
new tech high would be between 450 and 500 students.

2242
03:48:39,130 --> 03:48:43,090
as you can see, since new tech's inception, they've only reached optimum capacity utilization,

2243
03:48:46,765 --> 03:48:46,765
which once again is between 90 and 95% in the years 2011, 2012 and 2013.

2244
03:48:54,145 --> 03:48:57,550
also, when you look at the total high school enrollment numbers, especially in recent years,

2245
03:48:59,140 --> 03:49:02,200
please remember that five or six years ago, we added chs 9,

2246
03:49:04,175 --> 03:49:04,175
which removes between 1000 and 1100 students from chs each year.

2247
03:49:09,945 --> 03:49:13,695
also, we are in the process with bond dollars of expanding some of those areas with the new fine arts building on the chs campus.

2248
03:49:18,785 --> 03:49:22,750
again, as was stated previously with class size and capacity, we do have the capacity to include the students that are

2249
03:49:26,800 --> 03:49:26,800
currently part of the new tech program in the high school programs,

2250
03:49:31,540 --> 03:49:31,540
and we'll turn it back over to dr. Brooks to talk about what choices are

2251
03:49:35,950 --> 03:49:35,950
available in our high school programs. Dr. Brooks.

2252
03:49:41,685 --> 03:49:44,730
>> can we just make a note on those numbers that 2011 is the first year that we had four grade levels at new tech?

2253
03:49:48,030 --> 03:49:49,215
>> yes, definitely. >> thank you.

2254
03:49:53,040 --> 03:49:53,040
>> if you were to go the direction of consolidation of new tech, once again,

2255
03:49:58,030 --> 03:49:58,030
the learners being to chs 9 and chs within that,

2256
03:50:02,440 --> 03:50:02,440
you would have specific choices that are listed above that you can see that

2257
03:50:07,150 --> 03:50:07,150
we do offer currently either at chs or chs 9.

2258
03:50:11,365 --> 03:50:15,355
thinking about our ib program, thinking about dual credit opportunities, advanced placement courses,

2259
03:50:17,035 --> 03:50:20,050
this would be an expansion of advanced placement courses because we are somewhat limited to what is able to be offered,

2260
03:50:23,200 --> 03:50:25,750
necessarily at new tech at this time. Languages other than english,

2261
03:50:27,280 --> 03:50:29,230
this could expand that as well. Thinking about that and, for example,

2262
03:50:31,315 --> 03:50:34,510
american sign language is something that we offer at chs that's not currently offered at new tech. Fine arts.

2263
03:50:37,735 --> 03:50:37,735
you'll know the plethora of programs that we do have within that, athletics, of course.

2264
03:50:42,100 --> 03:50:42,100
cte. We do have currently more cte programs of study available at,

2265
03:50:47,755 --> 03:50:50,815
or you're thinking about chs 9 and chs within that, as well as the ctsos,

2266
03:50:52,600 --> 03:50:56,215
which are always make sure and read it out loud here. I'm thinking about our career technical education student organizations that we have.

2267
03:51:01,375 --> 03:51:03,790
then there are just as you know, at any of our campuses, new tech as well,

2268
03:51:06,085 --> 03:51:07,390
but we do offer a lot of extra curricular and co curricular types of programs that are available.

2269
03:51:11,965 --> 03:51:11,965
also, too, when you're thinking about options for students, additionally,

2270
03:51:16,705 --> 03:51:16,705
10th through 12th grade learners do have the opportunity to apply to

2271
03:51:21,130 --> 03:51:21,130
attend turning point at victory place as another option within cisd,

2272
03:51:25,960 --> 03:51:28,000
to accelerate their graduation plan, if this is something that learners were wanting to do.

2273
03:51:30,370 --> 03:51:32,725
I listed through those pieces, and then cisd offers many options for program choices in high school to our students.

2274
03:51:38,485 --> 03:51:41,305
while many of these programs do not have their own facility, there are options for engagement and connection

2275
03:51:43,630 --> 03:51:43,630
of our students to their interests and passions.

2276
03:51:55,950 --> 03:51:55,950
>> the question has come up about marketing specifically for new tech,

2277
03:52:00,130 --> 03:52:03,415
so we decided to look at overall marketing for the school district. From 2021 until 2024,

2278
03:52:05,830 --> 03:52:05,830
coppell isd has spent approximately $76,000 on marketing for student and staff,

2279
03:52:10,435 --> 03:52:12,460
recruiting and special programs. This included campaigns on social media for new tech, pinkerton,

2280
03:52:16,525 --> 03:52:18,715
pre-kindergarten, and kindergarten enrollment, I heart cisd, and my home is cisd.

2281
03:52:22,045 --> 03:52:25,810
this also included recruitment billboards, postcards, yard signs, and welcome magazines for new families that were mailed to every new family.

2282
03:52:30,445 --> 03:52:32,560
of the money spent on marketing, 65% was spent for overall marketing and recruiting students to all cisd campuses.

2283
03:52:38,380 --> 03:52:38,380
twenty four percent was used to recruit staff to all cisd schools,

2284
03:52:43,015 --> 03:52:46,180
3% was spent specifically for new tech, and 1% was spent specifically for pinkerton,

2285
03:52:49,360 --> 03:52:51,820
6% of the budget was spent on pre-k and kindergarten and recruiting at all elementary schools.

2286
03:52:55,075 --> 03:52:55,075
for new tech, this included social media campaigns on youtube tv with

2287
03:52:59,710 --> 03:52:59,710
19,000 views and 36,000 impressions and 21 website visits, from those impressions.

2288
03:53:05,350 --> 03:53:06,970
additionally, postcards have been mailed every year to families in the open enrollment zones,

2289
03:53:09,790 --> 03:53:12,940
encouraging them to apply to new tech. For pinkerton, this included social media ads with great videos that they produced,

2290
03:53:19,480 --> 03:53:19,480
with 26,000 impressions and 15,000 views of that video.

2291
03:53:23,560 --> 03:53:26,065
for kindergarten and pre-kindergarten marketing, the social media ads garnered 170,000 impressions in

2292
03:53:29,260 --> 03:53:29,260
nearly 2000 clicks to learn more information and apply to our pre-k program.

2293
03:53:33,640 --> 03:53:36,670
the opportunity to grow the international baccalaureate program, the dual language immersion program, new tech,

2294
03:53:39,430 --> 03:53:39,430
and the early childhood or pre-k program would allow cisd to continue to market to

2295
03:53:44,500 --> 03:53:47,335
families looking for school choice options and looking to our school as a destination school district.

2296
03:53:50,770 --> 03:53:53,335
to families that either live in our boundaries, they're moving to the dfw area,

2297
03:53:55,450 --> 03:53:59,110
or they work in our schools, or they live in one of our open enrollment zones, and we'll continue to find creative ways to market to those families.

2298
03:54:03,730 --> 03:54:06,745
>> as we wrap up our content for tonight, we're going to follow the same process that we did last monday when we discussed pros and

2299
03:54:11,860 --> 03:54:14,380
cons and considerations that we shared with each one of the options that we presented to the board and community.

2300
03:54:17,140 --> 03:54:19,960
we heard from some staff, parents, and board members,

2301
03:54:21,940 --> 03:54:24,190
why didn't you present an option of not consolidating any schools and so ms. Brown is going to go over that at this time.

2302
03:54:27,625 --> 03:54:27,625
>> you asked, and here we will provide it to you.

2303
03:54:31,895 --> 03:54:34,140
we have shared additional information tonight, but before we turn it over you to continue your discussion,

2304
03:54:39,735 --> 03:54:41,700
we want to share this final piece. We've been asked to share pros, cons,

2305
03:54:43,950 --> 03:54:47,845
and considerations of not closing a school. This is not an exhaustive list, but captures overarching themes.

2306
03:54:49,780 --> 03:54:52,960
here are pros to not consolidating any schools. These are the positives to keeping all of our schools open.

2307
03:54:55,870 --> 03:54:59,485
it would be less impact to student movement. It would be less impact to staff movement.

2308
03:55:02,320 --> 03:55:04,660
it would allow us to preserve the history and the traditions at all of our campus and those cultures.

2309
03:55:07,495 --> 03:55:07,495
it would be less impact to our feeder patterns and to other campuses.

2310
03:55:14,190 --> 03:55:14,190
what are the cons to not consolidating any campuses?

2311
03:55:18,775 --> 03:55:21,505
we've talked about a lot of these tonight. Declining enrollment will create excessive capacity and inefficiencies,

2312
03:55:25,585 --> 03:55:28,495
and enrollment is expected to continue to decline. It requires the use of fund balance or other expenditure cuts,

2313
03:55:31,510 --> 03:55:33,790
staff reductions, program reductions, and class sizes above state levels, etc.

2314
03:55:36,715 --> 03:55:40,450
the use of the fund balance could reduce the cisd credit rating, increasing tax rates and interest on bonds.

2315
03:55:43,180 --> 03:55:47,140
cisd may have to reduce choice programs, and/or change our model of required programs if we don't make some reductions.

2316
03:55:53,800 --> 03:55:56,470
there will be no cost of living raises for staff, which could impact our recruitment and our retention of our staff.

2317
03:56:00,270 --> 03:56:03,760
here are some considerations. Special programs will have to be considered.

2318
03:56:06,715 --> 03:56:09,040
some special programs are mandated by law, and cisd must provide those,

2319
03:56:10,930 --> 03:56:13,090
but others are a choice. The impact of any future legislative action

2320
03:56:16,150 --> 03:56:19,300
really is unknown as we've discussed a lot tonight. There are fixed costs that we know that they could continue to rise,

2321
03:56:23,905 --> 03:56:26,980
like our utilities, our fuel, etc. Cisd will need to continue to address our rising costs.

2322
03:56:31,290 --> 03:56:33,745
we've discussed this earlier tonight. There have been added responsibilities to our current staff members

2323
03:56:36,865 --> 03:56:36,865
as we reduce positions through attrition across the district.

2324
03:56:41,460 --> 03:56:41,460
the feeder pattern adjustments may still need to occur to

2325
03:56:46,540 --> 03:56:46,540
address capacity and utilization to level enrollment across the district.

2326
03:56:51,780 --> 03:56:54,580
here's a look at our pros, our cons, and our considerations for not closing any cisd schools, keeping our schools up.

2327
03:57:00,385 --> 03:57:03,175
>> like ms. Brown said, it's not an exhaustive list. We could probably add four or five to one of those columns.

2328
03:57:06,760 --> 03:57:09,925
I just want to give a jumping off point. Before we let you all have your discussion,

2329
03:57:13,060 --> 03:57:15,460
I just wanted to do two quick reminders. One, september 30th is the board meeting where last spring,

2330
03:57:19,630 --> 03:57:19,630
y'all agreed upon making a decision to help us move forward that starts at 6:00.

2331
03:57:24,910 --> 03:57:24,910
this wednesday, we also have a town hall at chs 9.

2332
03:57:29,290 --> 03:57:32,560
that's from 6: 30-8: 30. If you want to sign up to speak,

2333
03:57:34,120 --> 03:57:36,715
if you would get there starting at 5:30, that's when the doors will open to the foyer,

2334
03:57:38,995 --> 03:57:42,910
and we will have them available for sign up until 6: 15. It's not a board meeting or a workshop,

2335
03:57:45,250 --> 03:57:48,865
and so we're a little more flexible on how we can handle that. We will have the time limit based on the number of people that sign up,

2336
03:57:55,210 --> 03:57:55,210
so it could be anywhere from one minute like it was tonight to a-minute-and-a-half.

2337
03:57:59,320 --> 03:58:03,040
it depends upon how many people sign up. Usually when we get to over 50, then we start having to make some decisions,

2338
03:58:04,990 --> 03:58:04,990
but we want and encourage people to provide input coming in attendance,

2339
03:58:09,490 --> 03:58:11,110
whether they speak or not, but just listening and then obviously input at coppell isd

2340
03:58:14,080 --> 03:58:17,170
every board members e-mail address, as well as myself is all on the website.

2341
03:58:19,060 --> 03:58:19,060
[noise] but, we'll go back to

2342
03:58:23,710 --> 03:58:23,710
the conversation slide to let y'all debrief everything that you have heard tonight.

2343
03:58:29,095 --> 03:58:32,830
>> as we're doing that too, three pointed questions, I want to put back at you guys as you're sharing your thoughts.

2344
03:58:37,360 --> 03:58:41,230
one, same question, we always ask yourself. What information beyond tonight do you need to be able to make a decision?

2345
03:58:46,375 --> 03:58:50,095
the second thing, to make sure, do y'all feel like we are still on track with the timeline that we've presented?

2346
03:58:55,075 --> 03:58:57,985
then the last thing. Any further consolidation of the options that have

2347
03:59:01,780 --> 03:59:01,780
been presented as we try to narrow down the focus,

2348
03:59:05,875 --> 03:59:07,900
not only in what staff is doing, but what we need to be thinking about as we move towards september 30th.

2349
03:59:13,645 --> 03:59:16,600
nicole, you were about to speak, do you want to go first? >> yeah. That's fine.

2350
03:59:19,470 --> 03:59:22,360
>> I actually have two new tech questions. One, are we allowing new tech students to

2351
03:59:25,750 --> 03:59:25,750
participate in more than fine arts and sports at chs?

2352
03:59:30,010 --> 03:59:30,580
>> yes. >> yes. What else are they allowed to do now?

2353
03:59:35,290 --> 03:59:35,290
>> languages other than english advanced placement. French and spanish?

2354
03:59:39,910 --> 03:59:39,910
>> french and spanish. I think two questions I have related to new tech.

2355
03:59:47,710 --> 03:59:50,430
>> chinese. >> I know we already coordinate the schedule among the three high school campuses.

2356
03:59:58,405 --> 03:59:58,405
is there any way to minimize transportation

2357
04:00:02,590 --> 04:00:06,535
and shuttles with scheduling changes at the three campuses. I don't need an answer tonight,

2358
04:00:07,570 --> 04:00:08,980
but that is one of my questions. Then the other question I had is,

2359
04:00:11,875 --> 04:00:11,875
what per student dollar amount

2360
04:00:16,690 --> 04:00:16,690
would make keeping new tech more palatable open to staff since?

2361
04:00:24,000 --> 04:00:24,000
that's one of the questions on the table.

2362
04:00:28,180 --> 04:00:28,180
I don't know if that means cutting things that we're offering at new tech.

2363
04:00:33,715 --> 04:00:33,715
I don't know if that means new tech being at that campus in another program.

2364
04:00:37,915 --> 04:00:41,305
I know the new tech network caps us at 500 students. We know we're at a minimum amount per student because of the networks cap of students.

2365
04:00:46,720 --> 04:00:48,460
if we had 800 students over there, it would be problematic to be in the network still.

2366
04:00:51,265 --> 04:00:54,580
I would like to know what per student dollar amount would be something that would be targeted in a potential plan.

2367
04:01:01,650 --> 04:01:03,640
your second question. [laughter] david, I am fine with the timeline.

2368
04:01:08,395 --> 04:01:11,365
I know it is giving some of our community members some heartburn. I think coming into this,

2369
04:01:12,970 --> 04:01:16,375
we didn't really know what we didn't know, and seeing where we're at in the process and the information that we've received,

2370
04:01:21,175 --> 04:01:24,070
I would hate to prolong the process anymore and cause any more in the community than we already have.

2371
04:01:26,920 --> 04:01:30,460
I know that was our intention. By compressing it in the first place, I think that got lost on some people,

2372
04:01:32,110 --> 04:01:32,110
but I think we're in the position to ask most of the questions that we need to,

2373
04:01:36,370 --> 04:01:36,370
to move something forward or decide not to.

2374
04:01:41,190 --> 04:01:41,190
>> I have a question for board members regarding your point 3. Let's see.

2375
04:01:51,300 --> 04:01:51,300
this year we adopted and we discussed that after this year,

2376
04:01:59,770 --> 04:01:59,770
if we keep on adopting more deficit budget and realize that deficit,

2377
04:02:05,785 --> 04:02:05,785
we would be affecting our long term credit rating.

2378
04:02:11,130 --> 04:02:11,130
this year, we have adopted approximately $7.5 million deficit with

2379
04:02:17,110 --> 04:02:17,110
a very fingers crossed consideration that later we'll pass.

2380
04:02:26,560 --> 04:02:26,560
we'll just keep that 2.4 on the side.

2381
04:02:30,715 --> 04:02:30,715
with all the consolidations we have considered,

2382
04:02:35,395 --> 04:02:37,210
spent most of our time, that gives us about $2.4- $2.5 million consolidation,

2383
04:02:43,555 --> 04:02:43,555
including dli and any one of the elementary school.

2384
04:02:49,860 --> 04:02:49,860
our staff always works hard to bring our deficit lower than what is expected,

2385
04:02:58,870 --> 04:03:00,340
and from last year, since we have already squeezed our budget quite a bit,

2386
04:03:03,295 --> 04:03:07,090
it's not as much as what it used to be few years back. In the best case scenario,

2387
04:03:08,815 --> 04:03:08,815
we'll land up with the actual five million dollar deficit.

2388
04:03:13,045 --> 04:03:15,865
we're looking at, will the orders pass? We're again taking that positive assumption.

2389
04:03:19,435 --> 04:03:19,435
we do a $2.5 million cost savings.

2390
04:03:26,140 --> 04:03:26,140
we still end up with about $2.5 million actual deficit.

2391
04:03:32,500 --> 04:03:32,500
>> hold on. I just want to make sure the 7.5 assumes their pass is correct, diana?

2392
04:03:40,015 --> 04:03:41,980
>> yes. That's what I'm saying. >> I was making sure I just understand. I'm sorry.

2393
04:03:44,320 --> 04:03:47,155
>> I'm taking the best case scenario. >> I'm sorry. Thank you. >> I'm not taking any new car bats coming.

2394
04:03:51,370 --> 04:03:54,985
I'm taking the very best case scenario here with you. >> I got you. Sorry. >> even with that, we are left with $2.5 million actual deficit,

2395
04:04:05,880 --> 04:04:05,880
because we have spent most of the time talking about consolidation

2396
04:04:10,150 --> 04:04:10,150
of dli and one elementary school.

2397
04:04:14,965 --> 04:04:18,550
the best case scenario will leave us with $2.5 million. If it doesn't pass,

2398
04:04:19,840 --> 04:04:22,990
we'll be looking at close to five million dollar deficit, which will most eat all of our ready debt,

2399
04:04:27,745 --> 04:04:27,745
which we today seen is actually just around seven.

2400
04:04:32,460 --> 04:04:32,460
I'll be comfortable going two calendar years from there with no rainy fun being in

2401
04:04:42,070 --> 04:04:46,045
the same situation of making some real tough choices provided some miracle doesn't happen in

2402
04:04:48,700 --> 04:04:51,910
the legislature and I'm not holding my breath for that, because whatever comes from there will come with heavy strings attached

2403
04:04:56,560 --> 04:04:56,560
of vouchers and everything our governor has made that very clear.

2404
04:05:02,190 --> 04:05:02,190
>> there's one more piece that we're still evaluating.

2405
04:05:06,565 --> 04:05:10,135
in november, we're still looking at scheduled changes that's still to be evaluated at the secondary level.

2406
04:05:15,835 --> 04:05:18,970
>> those have not been presented to us. It's already too late.

2407
04:05:22,150 --> 04:05:23,905
for those to happen, they will happen 26/27 year.

2408
04:05:26,875 --> 04:05:28,315
they cannot happen anymore. We are already too late for that.

2409
04:05:33,990 --> 04:05:33,990
>> I think to answer your question, it does cut us dangerously close.

2410
04:05:40,620 --> 04:05:40,620
I think that the moving part here is the attendance piece that

2411
04:05:45,730 --> 04:05:45,730
marketing every 1% is a million bucks.

2412
04:05:51,960 --> 04:05:51,960
I guess that could be an unknown variable to work in our favor.

2413
04:05:56,815 --> 04:05:58,570
it could work against us. I guess we never know until we know on this one.

2414
04:06:04,940 --> 04:06:07,780
>> not proposing. I'm just more of a third name.

2415
04:06:09,415 --> 04:06:09,415
this is not something one first should be means.

2416
04:06:14,755 --> 04:06:14,755
this is a collective decision.

2417
04:06:19,190 --> 04:06:22,960
hey, we're focusing our effort on this. We know even in the best case scenario,

2418
04:06:26,710 --> 04:06:26,710
will leave a shot of our goal of achieving a balanced budget,

2419
04:06:33,960 --> 04:06:33,960
but we're doing that with the thought of

2420
04:06:39,340 --> 04:06:39,340
not we're taking a blunt instrument and going to it,

2421
04:06:45,010 --> 04:06:45,010
how we delayed this decision of consolidation for last two plus years.

2422
04:06:51,610 --> 04:06:51,610
we are deliberately pushing another tough decision.

2423
04:06:56,620 --> 04:06:56,620
we don't know what that tough decision could be program schedule of secondary school,

2424
04:07:04,030 --> 04:07:07,930
could be another facility, could be one of the programs. We don't know. Whatever will come will come with

2425
04:07:10,390 --> 04:07:10,390
the same holistic view we have taken right now with community input,

2426
04:07:15,175 --> 04:07:19,060
but are we comfortable that in the best case scenario that we are left with $2.5 million deficit

2427
04:07:23,725 --> 04:07:23,725
and in worst case scenario could be as high as six and

2428
04:07:28,240 --> 04:07:28,240
above which literally means negligible to any funds.

2429
04:07:33,955 --> 04:07:33,955
that means we are literally a year away from

2430
04:07:38,185 --> 04:07:38,185
having multiple year issue of our credit rating getting affected.

2431
04:07:48,840 --> 04:07:48,840
>> you wouldn't want that. In the way you presented, nobody wants that.

2432
04:07:53,545 --> 04:07:55,615
>> but that's a situation we are in. We have to make a decision collectively one way or the other.

2433
04:07:58,930 --> 04:08:01,690
nobody wants even to do this. >> nobody wants.

2434
04:08:04,620 --> 04:08:04,620
>> nobody even wants to do what we are doing already.

2435
04:08:09,750 --> 04:08:13,660
>> I think to your point is this. There's so many unknowns to figure that out,

2436
04:08:16,885 --> 04:08:19,690
and I think making a drastic change, will put a a future board in a bind that they would have to get out of.

2437
04:08:24,670 --> 04:08:26,710
I think it's one of those things that you have to walk in smaller steps than in the past,

2438
04:08:29,395 --> 04:08:31,210
because in the past, you could do that and say, hey, for six, seven, eight years,

2439
04:08:34,090 --> 04:08:38,050
things are run smoothly and we can get to the next level. This one, we're looking at increments of two years at a time because any way you go,

2440
04:08:44,200 --> 04:08:44,200
the drastic step could have a serious ramification for not only boards but staff as well,

2441
04:08:50,875 --> 04:08:50,875
because now you've taken away any flexibility that they may have if you cut too deep.

2442
04:08:57,130 --> 04:08:57,130
to your point is you either make a small incremental step to say, hey,

2443
04:09:05,170 --> 04:09:07,840
the future that we may not know about could change radically enough to get us to where we want to be,

2444
04:09:11,035 --> 04:09:13,075
or if you do it too much, then you can have too much attrition of both staff as well as students.

2445
04:09:17,695 --> 04:09:19,645
really, that's what we're looking at today. >> exactly. That's why I made the case both ways so

2446
04:09:24,400 --> 04:09:24,400
that we have an option to choose whichever way we want to go as a collective decision.

2447
04:09:29,620 --> 04:09:32,800
that's why I made a decision, hey, we are not taking a blunt instrument, so the future board and staff is in a bind because we cut down something we have invested

2448
04:09:39,310 --> 04:09:39,310
decades in or we have put ourselves in a situation where credit rating is affected.

2449
04:09:46,390 --> 04:09:49,810
now, that will take another multiple years to come out of. Either way, there could be long term consequences,

2450
04:09:53,305 --> 04:09:56,980
and there's a pros and cons of either decision. I just want a majority of us to be in the same page of,

2451
04:10:03,445 --> 04:10:03,445
this is what we consciously are choosing to go in this direction,

2452
04:10:08,830 --> 04:10:10,870
whatever direction we choose. >> well, I was going to say, and I think it goes to the question

2453
04:10:15,460 --> 04:10:19,360
dr. Hunt's been asking that we haven't really answered, is what are we comfortable at?

2454
04:10:21,535 --> 04:10:23,710
from a deficit standpoint, knowing that we do have 1.5,

2455
04:10:27,070 --> 04:10:29,965
2% variance each year, just based on the assumptions that go into the process to your point, anthony,

2456
04:10:35,380 --> 04:10:37,630
the things we don't know that happens and just staff being conservative in terms of budgets and how they're spending money.

2457
04:10:45,265 --> 04:10:48,610
>> we had a 150 student decline, which was not expected.

2458
04:10:50,335 --> 04:10:53,020
sometime it comes back. We saw that during covid. Maybe it comes back and puts us back in 1.5 to extra million dollar revenue.

2459
04:10:59,530 --> 04:11:01,930
anything can happen. I put those two situations.

2460
04:11:05,785 --> 04:11:08,140
I'll tell you where my thought is. We've pushed all our decision because we have used our fund balance as much as we can.

2461
04:11:18,880 --> 04:11:22,780
I would want to continue to chip away at this rather than take a blunt instrument and make too deep of a cut.

2462
04:11:26,735 --> 04:11:28,920
I know there's a risk both ways, but that's the risk I'm more comfortable with,

2463
04:11:33,080 --> 04:11:33,080
but I want this to be in a public forum,

2464
04:11:37,950 --> 04:11:37,950
this discussion because I don't want parents who will really feel inconvenience,

2465
04:11:46,840 --> 04:11:49,600
anxiety of all the decisions we'll make and they say, you did all this and you're still in deficit?

2466
04:11:52,645 --> 04:11:55,300
what do you mean we're still in this trouble? I want this to be upfront that we are making this decision that deliberately,

2467
04:12:00,370 --> 04:12:00,370
we are making tough choices one at a time and not doing all together,

2468
04:12:04,915 --> 04:12:08,635
so we don't put ourselves in a bigger bind. There's a risk both ways, but there's a risk we're more comfortable with.

2469
04:12:11,590 --> 04:12:14,575
our ada might jump up next year. We might get some funding, not much,

2470
04:12:17,980 --> 04:12:19,930
nothing to cover our deficit, but some funding from legislature,

2471
04:12:22,375 --> 04:12:25,920
and just hoping for the best. If not, we will be here next year making another tough decisions.

2472
04:12:31,495 --> 04:12:31,495
>> I think you should go slow to your point.

2473
04:12:37,525 --> 04:12:37,525
I've heard a lot of comments tonight about us being a destination school district.

2474
04:12:44,470 --> 04:12:46,915
I would actually add something to that. We're not just a destination school district.

2475
04:12:48,940 --> 04:12:51,205
we're an elite destination school district, and that bears out in the numbers that we have in the comments we've heard tonight.

2476
04:12:55,720 --> 04:12:59,275
we've heard people come from chicago, philadelphia. There's message boards, people talk about coppell isd india to say,

2477
04:13:03,430 --> 04:13:06,790
where should you bring your kid if you're going to come to texas? Coppell isd is that location,

2478
04:13:09,355 --> 04:13:12,160
and all the work that we're doing and everything that we're trying to do is trying to retain that.

2479
04:13:15,340 --> 04:13:15,340
make no mistake, we're being put in an artificially competitive environment.

2480
04:13:21,100 --> 04:13:21,100
we're playing a game where the other team has spotted the point and they pay the refs.

2481
04:13:26,695 --> 04:13:29,155
now we're having to compete with that. I'm a competitive person and I don't like when the games are rigged.

2482
04:13:33,115 --> 04:13:35,410
I want to play fair, but this game is being rigged against us,

2483
04:13:37,795 --> 04:13:37,795
and the only way we can compete with that is to still have

2484
04:13:41,830 --> 04:13:41,830
all the options on the table to attract all our kids at every level.

2485
04:13:46,765 --> 04:13:46,765
we've seen that they're out in the enrollment numbers that come out, which is yes,

2486
04:13:51,880 --> 04:13:55,120
there's some decline in elementary school enrollment, but low and behold,

2487
04:13:56,275 --> 04:13:58,015
when middle school comes back around, when high school comes back around, kids come back.

2488
04:14:00,805 --> 04:14:02,650
we've heard that even in stories tonight. We've heard of parents bringing their kids back where they started in charter schools,

2489
04:14:07,300 --> 04:14:10,255
they brought them back and came up here. I think everything that we need to do has to

2490
04:14:13,210 --> 04:14:16,855
be to where we maintain that elite choice for parents. Now, we're in an environment where you

2491
04:14:20,650 --> 04:14:20,650
can entertain duplication when you have an abundance,

2492
04:14:25,975 --> 04:14:28,675
but when you lose out on that abundance, both enrollment and money,

2493
04:14:30,490 --> 04:14:30,490
then hard choices have to be made and efficiencies have to be found,

2494
04:14:35,410 --> 04:14:38,065
and you cannot survive that duplication any longer. Same thing at home, same thing everywhere.

2495
04:14:41,245 --> 04:14:43,855
that's the question that we're asking ourselves, but to that point,

2496
04:14:45,310 --> 04:14:49,015
you try to increment that down as much as you can. We're having this conversation tonight.

2497
04:14:50,845 --> 04:14:53,725
I think we were talking was 83 speakers or something like that. It's probably the most engagement coppell isd has had in

2498
04:14:57,580 --> 04:14:57,580
a speaking forum of people coming out of the communities engaged and dialed in.

2499
04:15:02,215 --> 04:15:05,830
I'm hoping that you're along with this journey to see what I think the trustees are all of the same mind of is,

2500
04:15:09,145 --> 04:15:11,410
how do we keep that competitive environment? How do we stay being the best that we can be and continue to

2501
04:15:15,730 --> 04:15:15,730
deliver that educational value and opportunity for all the kids that we have?

2502
04:15:20,875 --> 04:15:24,265
to do that, I think it is that. It is okay. We're doing this, we're making some great gains, some efficiencies.

2503
04:15:27,340 --> 04:15:27,340
now, some is in the hands of our community with the vader.

2504
04:15:32,185 --> 04:15:35,305
that will help. There are unfunded mandates. We're trying to fill in the holes for some of those things.

2505
04:15:37,975 --> 04:15:41,650
then the further engagement that you guys would have with talking to your legislatures and asking them, what's the deal?

2506
04:15:45,160 --> 04:15:45,160
why don't you fully fund education and it's very specific question,

2507
04:15:49,795 --> 04:15:52,240
the maintenance and operations of that, but now, that's where we are.

2508
04:15:54,220 --> 04:15:54,220
I think that I wholehearted support incrementally going through.

2509
04:16:03,480 --> 04:16:06,670
>> we said earlier. I think we'll continue the conversation. We've got some really interesting emails

2510
04:16:08,080 --> 04:16:08,080
about the kindergartners or the younger people that live here,

2511
04:16:13,510 --> 04:16:16,210
technology is something different. Is a low tech or no tech school

2512
04:16:19,345 --> 04:16:22,600
an option that we might want to look at or a program change? We're not going to stop this conversation on september 30th.

2513
04:16:25,750 --> 04:16:29,560
we're going to continue to push forward. To answer your question, president caviness, what do I need to move forward in this specific conversation?

2514
04:16:33,370 --> 04:16:37,210
because another one of my maxims is, how do you eat an elephant one bite at a time and I can't look at whole elephant right now.

2515
04:16:39,100 --> 04:16:41,515
I just can look at this bite. This is what I need. I'd like to know how the elementary options title 1.

2516
04:16:46,105 --> 04:16:46,105
what is the impact to title 1 with any of the elementary school options?

2517
04:16:52,645 --> 04:16:55,180
secondly, something that we got emails about that I don't know if we have addressed or thought

2518
04:16:57,160 --> 04:16:57,160
about is that pinkerton is the very first school in coppell isd.

2519
04:17:02,530 --> 04:17:05,260
is there any historical significance to the building? I know that we got some emails from the coppell historical society.

2520
04:17:09,055 --> 04:17:09,055
have we talked about that in enough and considered that as we look at these options?

2521
04:17:14,800 --> 04:17:17,920
then my third thing that I would offer is, do we need another meeting?

2522
04:17:19,690 --> 04:17:21,760
do we need another workshop? How big is the dome, dr. Hunt?

2523
04:17:24,100 --> 04:17:26,410
how many people can come and sit at the dome? >> I said 600.

2524
04:17:29,070 --> 04:17:32,875
>> depending on the feedback from wednesdays, do we need to meet again before we vote?

2525
04:17:36,250 --> 04:17:36,250
I am allowed to say that because chs 9's open house is monday the 23rd,

2526
04:17:41,155 --> 04:17:44,800
but do we need to have another time where we come together? Would that be helpful because I agree to answer your last question,

2527
04:17:48,700 --> 04:17:51,760
we need to vote on this on september 30th. It needs to be wrapped up. Do we need to have another meeting next monday to hear,

2528
04:17:56,770 --> 04:17:56,770
to evaluate what came out of the town hall meeting and

2529
04:18:00,880 --> 04:18:03,400
any other additional emails we get and then some of those questions that we might have in the next couple of days. What do you guys think?

2530
04:18:11,250 --> 04:18:11,250
>> I agree on the timeline piece that we do need to stay on the course on that.

2531
04:18:18,415 --> 04:18:18,415
at this point, I don't need any more information,

2532
04:18:22,750 --> 04:18:22,750
but I do need some time to just process.

2533
04:18:28,730 --> 04:18:28,730
>> it's a lot of information.

2534
04:18:36,800 --> 04:18:36,800
>> to answer your question, president caviness for me,

2535
04:18:40,980 --> 04:18:44,490
the only question I really have is for choice programs. Can we grow enrollment in those choice programs?

2536
04:18:47,430 --> 04:18:47,430
because right now, what I'm seeing is that we're the expense piece,

2537
04:18:52,830 --> 04:18:54,600
I think we're running out of runway, it's a helicopter pad at this point.

2538
04:18:56,865 --> 04:18:58,770
but what we need is enrollment, and can we grow any enrollment in this climate?

2539
04:19:01,635 --> 04:19:03,720
because it's a competitive climate. Going back to the previous time when we had to make this choice,

2540
04:19:08,685 --> 04:19:12,570
the climate looked totally different. You're looking at charter school, private school, home school.

2541
04:19:13,620 --> 04:19:13,620
you've got all of that. Then to trustee matthews point,

2542
04:19:19,155 --> 04:19:21,690
you've got these things that are coming at us that are making it difficult to be competitive.

2543
04:19:24,615 --> 04:19:28,350
but can we grow? Enrollment is really what I'm curious about because when you think about it, it does help.

2544
04:19:31,335 --> 04:19:34,035
absolutely. But can we grow enrollment? Because if we can't grow enrollment,

2545
04:19:35,745 --> 04:19:39,615
we have a totally different conversation to trustee sethi's point. Two years from now, is this thing is going south the other way.

2546
04:19:44,340 --> 04:19:44,340
I'm hopeful because I was here when the aerobic got down to 9,700.

2547
04:19:48,510 --> 04:19:52,095
we're at 13,000 plus. I'm hopeful because of that. I think that we can do some things to your point, trustee matthew,

2548
04:19:55,680 --> 04:19:59,505
because if we maintain the flexibility, if we maintain the choices that are available.

2549
04:20:02,010 --> 04:20:05,685
those things attract people. To your point, I've talked to people even this year, they have come from other places,

2550
04:20:07,185 --> 04:20:09,495
out of country, out of state, and they say because of the programs that we

2551
04:20:11,670 --> 04:20:14,085
have is the reason that they're here and landed here, they've only been here a couple of years,

2552
04:20:16,485 --> 04:20:17,880
one year or less. I think that's the thing that's attractive in my mind,

2553
04:20:20,580 --> 04:20:23,040
that we can do that if we can make that happen. To the point of making a decision,

2554
04:20:24,975 --> 04:20:24,975
I think we're at the point we need to make a decision on the 30th.

2555
04:20:29,985 --> 04:20:31,320
whatever that may be. It may be no choice, or whatever it is,

2556
04:20:34,425 --> 04:20:37,170
we need to come to that consensus to your point, trustee sethi, so we can let people know because we're not doing anything for this school year,

2557
04:20:40,815 --> 04:20:43,995
as superintendent hunter has talked about, but it's for the next school year,

2558
04:20:45,390 --> 04:20:49,320
and I think we need to continue to drive that message home to people as well because I think that is one of the things that gives people angst also to my point.

2559
04:20:54,495 --> 04:20:57,735
hopefully, I answered all your questions if I need to answer them, let me know. >> I think so.

2560
04:20:59,370 --> 04:20:59,370
>> I had a question on tag on to what trustee hill said,

2561
04:21:04,335 --> 04:21:04,335
can we grow enrollment and what does it cost us to grow enrollment historically?

2562
04:21:10,725 --> 04:21:12,780
I guess that would be for ms. Brown and her team, but what would we have to spend to grow enrollment to the point that we need to?

2563
04:21:17,460 --> 04:21:17,460
I'd like to know what the roi is, I guess on that.

2564
04:21:22,515 --> 04:21:25,845
>> she said the total marketing budget was 76,000. >> right. But how many kids did we gain from that and where did we gain them?

2565
04:21:30,890 --> 04:21:34,830
if it was I don't know how many kids it was, but if we decided we wanted 400 more kids in the district, what would it cost us?

2566
04:21:39,390 --> 04:21:41,100
because we don't know what that we know what she spent, but we don't know what was added to the district from that.

2567
04:21:47,250 --> 04:21:50,730
I know it's not scientific. >> easy question. >> I get it.

2568
04:21:51,660 --> 04:21:55,365
>> I have difficulty in this. >> we don't always ask at the time of enrollment, how did you find out about us?

2569
04:21:57,165 --> 04:21:59,130
we could have a general idea, but we don't know for certain that they are coming to cic because they saw our billboard.

2570
04:22:03,975 --> 04:22:05,910
>> right. >> I don't think it hurts us. I think it always is a positive feeling,

2571
04:22:10,380 --> 04:22:12,900
but I don't know definitively if we would be able to do that, but if we are, we'll get that to you.

2572
04:22:14,940 --> 04:22:18,180
>> I don't think it's clean and pure but just some. >> the only definite answer we have for growth,

2573
04:22:22,140 --> 04:22:25,860
towards a marketing effort is from open enrollment. Because we know we were not getting those.

2574
04:22:27,915 --> 04:22:29,610
that's a very definite answer. But people who are already in coppell isd zone,

2575
04:22:33,930 --> 04:22:37,230
they choose private school or charter school and come back to us. >> all that we're not going to know. I agree.

2576
04:22:39,750 --> 04:22:42,090
like I said, I know it's going to be an exact science, but it would give us some indicator rather than just

2577
04:22:44,940 --> 04:22:48,630
throwing something in the dark and guessing. >> I'd add to that and I don't know how to figure this out.

2578
04:22:53,295 --> 04:22:57,060
this is what the question is, because as the fed is marching to, they're going to reduce rates again with home turnovers,

2579
04:23:00,450 --> 04:23:02,625
I don't know how does that correlate? What interest rate environment are we seeing turnover?

2580
04:23:05,925 --> 04:23:08,985
I don't know if that's a question further or demographer or not, just to say, when interest rates get around here,

2581
04:23:11,610 --> 04:23:14,190
when are we seeing turnover in homes? I think that would be a good idea,

2582
04:23:16,050 --> 04:23:16,050
especially with interest rates hopefully coming back down at the end of the month.

2583
04:23:20,955 --> 04:23:23,690
>> the month in a few days. >> that's end of my questions,

2584
04:23:27,370 --> 04:23:27,370
but tagging on to I guess what everybody has said,

2585
04:23:31,625 --> 04:23:34,040
like, we're on a journey, september 30, we are not going to reach the destination.

2586
04:23:37,325 --> 04:23:40,670
my encouragement to the community and hooray for all of you who have plugged in and are engaging us,

2587
04:23:44,555 --> 04:23:47,625
get on the trail with us. Stay on the journey with us.

2588
04:23:49,470 --> 04:23:49,470
we need you to continue down the path and be involved

2589
04:23:57,270 --> 04:23:59,715
in all the things that we need to happen because your engagement can make a difference in countless ways.

2590
04:24:05,355 --> 04:24:08,700
>> the state level. >> that is exactly what I'm alluding to. Anyway, reach out to any of us.

2591
04:24:11,145 --> 04:24:12,810
we are happy to engage you, but we need your participation along this journey.

2592
04:24:16,170 --> 04:24:18,500
we are not at the end point. >> it sounds like we're good to move forward with the timeline.

2593
04:24:24,015 --> 04:24:27,300
>> I use my opportunity to ask my question, but not to answer your question.

2594
04:24:28,650 --> 04:24:29,280
>> right >> only thing I need is I heard ms. Brown for new tech growth plan.

2595
04:24:35,430 --> 04:24:35,430
first of all, about new tech it's such a special school.

2596
04:24:39,765 --> 04:24:39,765
it plugs in a need for the kids who

2597
04:24:45,720 --> 04:24:45,720
really need that environment and not just that project based learning,

2598
04:24:51,825 --> 04:24:54,465
just that separate facility of it. It's one of the most special programs we have for the learners who need it the most.

2599
04:25:02,535 --> 04:25:02,535
but at the same time when we're talking about efficiencies,

2600
04:25:06,780 --> 04:25:10,125
we're talking about such huge deficits. We have to be

2601
04:25:13,890 --> 04:25:13,890
conscious that we are frugal and we are responsible with our taxpayers money.

2602
04:25:20,420 --> 04:25:20,420
we have one of the best principal.

2603
04:25:24,570 --> 04:25:28,515
principal then [inaudible] porter, you have no idea how much trust I have in you. Miss you can take that school to the heights,

2604
04:25:32,325 --> 04:25:35,085
we can't even imagine. I know it will take time.

2605
04:25:37,305 --> 04:25:38,520
you need your time, so whenever you work with the staff with

2606
04:25:42,090 --> 04:25:42,090
the district administrators and get us that plan of 2-3 years, you said,

2607
04:25:48,210 --> 04:25:51,270
ms. Brown, if we could get some time and when we would be expecting to see that because as we all have said,

2608
04:25:54,900 --> 04:25:56,250
this is a continued journey, this is not ending and that's a big piece of it.

2609
04:25:59,085 --> 04:25:59,085
having that in mind will we'll bring clarity to it,

2610
04:26:03,870 --> 04:26:03,870
and I'm sure there will be other community questions also about efficiencies,

2611
04:26:08,610 --> 04:26:08,610
but it's a very special choice for our learners,

2612
04:26:15,165 --> 04:26:15,165
and it deserves every chance that if we can preserve it,

2613
04:26:19,350 --> 04:26:19,350
we need to preserve it and we have the best principle to do that.

2614
04:26:23,415 --> 04:26:27,140
good luck and good speed in that. >> I want to give you guys my thoughts too.

2615
04:26:30,210 --> 04:26:32,760
to answer my own question, yes, I think we're good.

2616
04:26:35,415 --> 04:26:35,415
I'm good, and it sounds like you guys agree that moving forward to september 30,

2617
04:26:40,890 --> 04:26:40,890
there's a lot of angst and anxiety that is coming with this discussion?

2618
04:26:45,990 --> 04:26:49,395
we're seeing it. We've been living it for some time. It's been something we talked about,

2619
04:26:51,930 --> 04:26:51,930
we knew it was coming, just based on the things we've been talking about.

2620
04:26:58,275 --> 04:26:58,275
here's where I guess my question to you guys for a discussion,

2621
04:27:03,120 --> 04:27:05,610
and I think this is just based on the questions I've been listening to tonight and I think for me,

2622
04:27:08,610 --> 04:27:11,970
I've got some clarity as we're talking about several options. How do we over the next two weeks reduce some of that angst and anxiety and do we

2623
04:27:16,920 --> 04:27:20,630
focus our meeting on the 30th and our questions and decision on a singular option or two singular options.

2624
04:27:25,160 --> 04:27:27,155
I'm really struggling. When we look at the elementary options,

2625
04:27:30,385 --> 04:27:33,210
with the austin option being on there with it being some of the things we've talked about,

2626
04:27:35,940 --> 04:27:39,810
really in the walkability of true neighborhood school, and when I read,

2627
04:27:43,365 --> 04:27:43,365
even things the city puts out from a survey that they do every two or three years.

2628
04:27:51,000 --> 04:27:54,450
that's one of the things that really attracts people to compel was the neighborhood system that this district was built on.

2629
04:27:58,785 --> 04:28:01,910
I was struggling with that through the conversation, and the thing that I go back to especially when we talk about

2630
04:28:04,610 --> 04:28:08,135
being in youtube especially manish and leigh, for some time, expansion has

2631
04:28:12,870 --> 04:28:12,870
been something you guys have been championing and as I'm listening to the discussion,

2632
04:28:18,690 --> 04:28:22,330
the thing that comes to my mind with what's been proposed. This gives us one of the best opportunities,

2633
04:28:24,620 --> 04:28:27,230
I think, to really expand the program. Credit to our pto leaders and staff and

2634
04:28:33,075 --> 04:28:35,520
those at pinkerton the last several years that have made a really concentrated effort to grow it there,

2635
04:28:39,330 --> 04:28:43,260
and, from a number standpoint, it's almost capped out. I think for me,

2636
04:28:45,255 --> 04:28:47,985
I look at that and I think there's some opportunities there. But I would just be curious to know what you guys think about going

2637
04:28:52,140 --> 04:28:52,140
forward with the three options on the table or would you be willing to take one off?

2638
04:28:56,175 --> 04:28:58,305
>> just clearing off president caviness, you're asking us to eliminate one of the elementary school choice.

2639
04:29:02,460 --> 04:29:04,560
>> I'll be specific. I'm asking if you guys had any interest in eliminating the austin choice.

2640
04:29:16,400 --> 04:29:16,400
>> all the emails I've read from some of the comments from a lot of research,

2641
04:29:22,950 --> 04:29:26,775
and a lot of decisions we're making over here is hoping for the best because we know we keep on fighting on increasing our enrollment.

2642
04:29:33,230 --> 04:29:33,230
with the dart silver line coming next to

2643
04:29:37,830 --> 04:29:37,830
pinkerton with austin being in the middle of neighborhood,

2644
04:29:44,835 --> 04:29:48,525
a lot more in the middle of neighborhood than pinkerton. With the house prices of austin most

2645
04:29:53,130 --> 04:29:53,130
viable to promote rejuvenation of our elementary school.

2646
04:29:59,220 --> 04:30:02,400
if I have to choose between those two schools for the future keeping destination district years from today,

2647
04:30:07,770 --> 04:30:07,770
coppell isd being a destination district years from today.

2648
04:30:14,660 --> 04:30:14,660
I'm not considering the age of facilities in this so much,

2649
04:30:20,460 --> 04:30:23,190
even though that's a factor to me. Austin gives us a lot more viability and puts

2650
04:30:28,320 --> 04:30:28,320
us in a better position having austin in one of our elementary school over pinkerton.

2651
04:30:34,880 --> 04:30:34,880
that's where my head is right now.

2652
04:30:42,590 --> 04:30:46,455
>> I think your question was, do we take it off the table now? What I was hearing you say is to spare.

2653
04:30:51,360 --> 04:30:54,180
I don't quite understand. I feel like we've come this far and I don't want to do anything prematurely.

2654
04:31:00,285 --> 04:31:00,285
I still have a lot of space and time to think about some of this stuff.

2655
04:31:06,620 --> 04:31:09,390
I don't think I'm ready for that. I don't know if that would help or hurt our community this time.

2656
04:31:13,680 --> 04:31:13,680
we've got two more weeks, and it seems a little early to do that.

2657
04:31:21,570 --> 04:31:24,000
but I guess I'm still on the fence, so that's why I need more time.

2658
04:31:28,400 --> 04:31:28,400
>> I'd be fine

2659
04:31:36,600 --> 04:31:39,270
removing austin from the table only because of the strategy piece I've talked about before.

2660
04:31:43,890 --> 04:31:43,890
because if you are talking about choice and expanding choice,

2661
04:31:49,530 --> 04:31:49,530
then what I've heard from last I think two years maybe

2662
04:31:53,790 --> 04:31:53,790
is ib is the one that everybody wants to see and expand,

2663
04:31:57,945 --> 04:31:57,945
and you can't because it is physically limited in the space that is currently in.

2664
04:32:04,380 --> 04:32:04,380
if you are going from a strategy perspective to move it to a different location,

2665
04:32:08,475 --> 04:32:09,885
expand it and see. Let's see how big it gets and see if you can do it.

2666
04:32:12,540 --> 04:32:15,840
that's the thing that would make the most sense to me from a long term, all the other pieces I think are very important,

2667
04:32:18,150 --> 04:32:20,580
things that sethi mentioned. We mentioned other things about rejuvenation and all the rest of that,

2668
04:32:23,670 --> 04:32:23,670
but if you're talking about how do you increase enrollment,

2669
04:32:29,595 --> 04:32:29,595
provide more options to place people into a school,

2670
04:32:37,395 --> 04:32:37,395
that seems the logical decision.

2671
04:32:48,080 --> 04:32:48,080
>> their thoughts.

2672
04:32:53,630 --> 04:32:53,630
>> when I look at the options available to us.

2673
04:32:58,125 --> 04:33:00,735
on one hand, chelsea walker, I definitely understand where you're coming from.

2674
04:33:03,705 --> 04:33:07,110
on the other hand, I'm looking at we need to get some of the stuff off the table because I think

2675
04:33:10,335 --> 04:33:13,860
keeping it all on the table makes it tougher on the 30th than it does expediting and getting through this.

2676
04:33:18,120 --> 04:33:18,120
for me, you could take new tech off with the stipulation of having a plan.

2677
04:33:23,760 --> 04:33:25,185
I would take that off. I would take austin off because of the location and being in the center of town.

2678
04:33:32,115 --> 04:33:33,735
we've done this once before. The only reason that we did leave because we were putting something in place of it.

2679
04:33:37,935 --> 04:33:41,085
but this case, if you have an empty space, you have to have a use of function for it immediately.

2680
04:33:46,125 --> 04:33:49,710
we'll keep it until we figure something out. I'm looking at let's get this down to something that we can market and drive home.

2681
04:33:56,340 --> 04:33:56,340
but for me, I would be okay with removing it with

2682
04:34:01,890 --> 04:34:04,380
the understanding because of the fact that it does have capacity utilization already in place.

2683
04:34:08,205 --> 04:34:10,830
the purpose of having the bond was to fix the building, to upgrade it, to be suitable for occupancy for additional years.

2684
04:34:16,485 --> 04:34:19,935
I think those things come into play in that regard. But I think we're going to have to drive this down to

2685
04:34:23,130 --> 04:34:27,060
a meaningful discussion when we get there because at the end of the day on the 30, we may not do anything in that because we're driving this thing down.

2686
04:34:32,175 --> 04:34:33,900
but if we have too many options on the table, we're going to still be kicking the same can and having a longer conversation for me.

2687
04:34:41,150 --> 04:34:44,460
>> I agree with the point with the stipulation of getting a plan of how we are going to increase enrollment,

2688
04:34:49,290 --> 04:34:51,630
overall efficiency for new tech, we can take that off the list for this year.

2689
04:34:55,770 --> 04:34:55,770
or whatever that plan is for all those years.

2690
04:35:01,125 --> 04:35:01,125
I don't want to make a plan with the asterisk because then it's not a plan.

2691
04:35:05,745 --> 04:35:06,315
>> right. >> whatever the pan comes we'll fully support it.

2692
04:35:09,840 --> 04:35:12,645
>> some of the reasons of the attrition, people are wondering whether or not it's going to be on there or not. I don't know.

2693
04:35:16,080 --> 04:35:19,185
>> we can put asterisk. Otherwise plan never works. >> if it is off table,

2694
04:35:21,120 --> 04:35:23,835
then you're saying, yes, we're going to commit. [overlapping] >> off the table. >> rebuild it. >> based on plan.

2695
04:35:25,425 --> 04:35:28,920
>> based on the plan and then as key metrics come through as we're evaluating, we'll see how it goes.

2696
04:35:33,345 --> 04:35:33,345
>> that's what seeing that banned sooner than later, it's important for us.

2697
04:35:37,605 --> 04:35:41,190
>> add plus one that removal as well. >> our stuff is going down.

2698
04:35:42,570 --> 04:35:45,450
I had folded up my stuff and gotten my glasses, and we're making some pretty,

2699
04:35:47,130 --> 04:35:48,870
wow, this took a turn. This is happening, and this is pretty big.

2700
04:35:52,605 --> 04:35:52,605
what I'm hearing right now is the question is,

2701
04:35:56,610 --> 04:36:00,455
do we take austin off the table, and do we take new tech off the table? Is that what we're discussing right now?

2702
04:36:02,675 --> 04:36:02,675
>> that seems to be a new tech with the stipulation that we all come together with

2703
04:36:07,580 --> 04:36:07,580
the solid plan based on what dr. Brooks had shared with us earlier.

2704
04:36:18,190 --> 04:36:19,540
>> [inaudible] >> correct. Yeah. With time to put it in place,

2705
04:36:22,900 --> 04:36:25,345
a 2-3 year process, I believe is what I heard. >> that has been previously,

2706
04:36:27,370 --> 04:36:30,700
and I'll reiterate that for us to do a robust plan that is worthy of what I believe the school board is asking of us,

2707
04:36:34,480 --> 04:36:37,240
it's going to take more than a week, two weeks. >> absolutely, it should.

2708
04:36:38,665 --> 04:36:41,725
>> you have many other things in those two weeks. >> but not to muddy the water,

2709
04:36:43,240 --> 04:36:45,940
if we could finish the austin one first and then go back to new tech because to your point, ms. Walker,

2710
04:36:48,835 --> 04:36:51,730
there was one direction and then going another and I just want to make sure that I am clear with

2711
04:36:54,730 --> 04:36:57,310
the expectations of the board and I know what my marching orders are for not only wednesday,

2712
04:37:01,870 --> 04:37:01,870
but next weekend as we prepare for september 30th.

2713
04:37:09,180 --> 04:37:11,875
>> you guys are all looking at me. >> I'll go if you don't want to.

2714
04:37:14,215 --> 04:37:16,375
>> yeah, nichole, you go. >> I'll give you a minute, leigh. When I think about us potentially needing capacity,

2715
04:37:25,405 --> 04:37:28,855
when I think about us growing programs that are thriving, adding enrollment, remaining strategic and being a destination.

2716
04:37:33,145 --> 04:37:35,095
to me, for a month, I've been saying that's grow ib.

2717
04:37:39,870 --> 04:37:43,540
that and part of what makes us a destination school district is also neighborhood schools,

2718
04:37:46,600 --> 04:37:50,095
and so when we combine those two factors, I did not think I was going to come in here tonight ready to eliminate anything.

2719
04:37:54,760 --> 04:37:54,760
I'll be honest, but I would be okay taking austin off the list,

2720
04:37:58,930 --> 04:37:58,930
and I'm okay with a plan taking new tech off the list.

2721
04:38:15,120 --> 04:38:18,450
>> just going through my notes. I'm definitely okay with taking new tech off of the list.

2722
04:38:23,230 --> 04:38:23,230
I think we need to give that program a good amount of

2723
04:38:27,760 --> 04:38:27,760
time to grow and just come up with a strategy for that.

2724
04:38:36,630 --> 04:38:36,630
I'm thinking that I really like the possibility of expanding the ib program,

2725
04:38:45,505 --> 04:38:48,850
that is our big plus. I'm also hopeful about

2726
04:38:54,310 --> 04:38:54,310
the overall efficiency with

2727
04:38:59,560 --> 04:38:59,560
that change and the location of austin being right there in the middle of the town.

2728
04:39:06,520 --> 04:39:06,520
to me, keeping that makes more sense with the information that I can process right now.

2729
04:39:19,680 --> 04:39:19,680
I think I'm okay with the option of taking austin off of the list.

2730
04:39:35,310 --> 04:39:38,500
>> dr. Hunt, I'm going to ignore what you said. I'm going to start with new tech because I,

2731
04:39:40,330 --> 04:39:42,505
too, I am fine with taking. >> it's okay. Everybody [laughter] [inaudible]

2732
04:39:44,920 --> 04:39:47,605
>> we don't follow instructions well apparently. >> just to give a decent clarity,

2733
04:39:49,405 --> 04:39:51,565
give the community some clear. That's what we're asking for. Given how painful all of this is,

2734
04:39:53,710 --> 04:39:56,695
we just want to be able to focus and do what we need to do. Because as I've said many times,

2735
04:39:58,720 --> 04:40:02,710
austin could be any one of the footprints. We talked about that. You know why we picked it.

2736
04:40:04,480 --> 04:40:05,920
we've said that the age of it, it's place within the community.

2737
04:40:10,375 --> 04:40:10,375
but we just need to know where you want us to go.

2738
04:40:14,995 --> 04:40:14,995
>> with new tech, I would want us to commit to truly taking it off the table.

2739
04:40:22,975 --> 04:40:22,975
I don't feel personally that we have given new tech

2740
04:40:27,940 --> 04:40:27,940
the systematic support from the board for it to be able to do what it needs to do.

2741
04:40:33,640 --> 04:40:36,325
if we're going to take it off the table, then we take it off the table. We have a plan that lets it fly for three years or at least.

2742
04:40:42,610 --> 04:40:42,610
that's a commitment because a half measure just prolongs.

2743
04:40:47,575 --> 04:40:47,575
if you think there's any chance that you're going to enroll your kid as a ninth grader,

2744
04:40:52,660 --> 04:40:55,405
and as a tenth grader, the school is gone, you will not do it. We have to commit to that,

2745
04:40:57,850 --> 04:41:00,970
I don't think we have done that in the past four years, and so if we take it off the table, guys,

2746
04:41:04,405 --> 04:41:05,980
we take it off the table, and we end this conversation for a couple of years,

2747
04:41:08,980 --> 04:41:10,915
whatever it looks like from staff. If you guys are comfortable with that, I will do it,

2748
04:41:13,360 --> 04:41:15,205
but I am not comfortable in saying, let's take it off right now to revisit it in 18 months.

2749
04:41:19,265 --> 04:41:21,825
y'all are on board then? In that case, then let's do this thing.

2750
04:41:24,345 --> 04:41:25,980
let's do it. Fish or cut bait, let's fish. Back to pinkerton.

2751
04:41:29,470 --> 04:41:31,195
I didn't realize tonight. For the audience, I'm a pinkerton cowpoke.

2752
04:41:35,470 --> 04:41:35,470
I met my husband in third grade on the playground.

2753
04:41:40,330 --> 04:41:40,330
all three, we moved here so that our kids would go to the school that we grew up in.

2754
04:41:49,090 --> 04:41:49,090
my sisters, I took them to school the first day at pinkerton.

2755
04:41:54,850 --> 04:41:54,850
I dropped my son off for kindergarten at pinkerton.

2756
04:42:00,070 --> 04:42:00,070
I brought my newborn baby to ms. Kirkley at pinkerton,

2757
04:42:04,180 --> 04:42:06,280
so I get it. I get this beyond.

2758
04:42:09,400 --> 04:42:11,170
it's not just my story, but when I've heard all of this,

2759
04:42:13,630 --> 04:42:13,630
I actually will be very vulnerable with you because I thought to myself,

2760
04:42:17,830 --> 04:42:20,410
why am I on the board right now if I'm going to have to vote to close something I love so much.

2761
04:42:23,485 --> 04:42:23,485
that's when I think god puts you where you're supposed to be.

2762
04:42:29,950 --> 04:42:29,950
if I can look at this decision as someone who knows

2763
04:42:34,060 --> 04:42:34,060
incredibly what this means to our community and what it means to so many families.

2764
04:42:39,940 --> 04:42:43,360
I can say, I think this is the right decision, then it's probably time.

2765
04:42:45,565 --> 04:42:45,565
that it's been very hard for me to deal with.

2766
04:42:50,940 --> 04:42:50,940
again, I did not think I would be doing this tonight.

2767
04:42:55,570 --> 04:42:55,570
but I agree, when I come back to that decision,

2768
04:43:00,745 --> 04:43:00,745
my values, like what truly guides me in this time and place,

2769
04:43:06,145 --> 04:43:06,145
it's that people, I do this,

2770
04:43:10,270 --> 04:43:13,885
we are the church, steeple, it's the people, and our people are going to make it no matter what the facility is.

2771
04:43:18,100 --> 04:43:22,060
looking at the information that we have gotten, you are right. Austin is a neighborhood school where our kids and families can walk.

2772
04:43:27,445 --> 04:43:29,920
it makes sense. Pinkerton has been such a place for this community for so long.

2773
04:43:36,000 --> 04:43:39,940
no matter what we do moving forward on september 30th, I think it's time for us to honor and treasure and lean into that, what it has been.

2774
04:43:46,735 --> 04:43:49,855
to what all of you guys have said, this plan is the best plan that I

2775
04:43:53,620 --> 04:43:53,620
see moving forward to grow the program that it really is.

2776
04:43:58,240 --> 04:44:01,600
I worry about wilson, I'm worried about that. We are affecting two schools in a fundamental way.

2777
04:44:05,650 --> 04:44:09,115
but the fact of the matter is no matter what we decide, we're affecting schools in a fundamental way.

2778
04:44:12,205 --> 04:44:15,715
I have thought many times, am I going to be able to raise my hand?

2779
04:44:17,680 --> 04:44:20,140
am I be able to have this conversation? The only way I could do that is to take the leadership position and say,

2780
04:44:25,345 --> 04:44:29,260
I think this is the right thing to do. To say that to you guys, to listen to everything,

2781
04:44:31,165 --> 04:44:31,165
I have in my mind that taking austin off the table makes sense.

2782
04:44:36,910 --> 04:44:40,240
I know we have two more weeks to think about what that looks like for our remaining one that's on the table.

2783
04:44:44,335 --> 04:44:47,530
but I agree with you guys, and I think we have to do the right thing right now.

2784
04:44:58,020 --> 04:44:58,020
>> this is tough, and I didn't come into the night thinking we were coming here either.

2785
04:45:05,080 --> 04:45:07,885
listening to the conversation, listening to the questions,

2786
04:45:10,075 --> 04:45:12,970
some things just become clear and what I struggle with right now in the community is the anxiety that's out there,

2787
04:45:19,675 --> 04:45:21,160
not only the community, what it's doing to our kids is where I'm really struggling

2788
04:45:25,630 --> 04:45:25,630
when you see we're having some very adult conversations in this room,

2789
04:45:31,420 --> 04:45:35,365
and our kids are watching, and it really is affecting them. Being able to get to a tough conversation for this board has been hard for many years.

2790
04:45:43,540 --> 04:45:45,700
this is the first time we're having this conversation just so everybody in the community knows it's not

2791
04:45:48,640 --> 04:45:48,640
something we've talked about one off here and there.

2792
04:45:54,960 --> 04:45:54,960
it's been hard. We've been in the trenches together.

2793
04:46:02,485 --> 04:46:04,840
we built a dad's club there. It was your brain child and we took it to a high level.

2794
04:46:10,210 --> 04:46:10,210
it's tough to know that we're coming to some tough decisions in a couple of weeks.

2795
04:46:16,710 --> 04:46:19,740
again, just because we're taking things off the table tonight doesn't mean we're going forward with what's left on the table.

2796
04:46:22,830 --> 04:46:22,830
I think there's still a lot of questions to get answered.

2797
04:46:27,345 --> 04:46:30,850
a lot of things we need to talk about, especially on dli. I said it earlier,

2798
04:46:32,320 --> 04:46:35,110
that one gave me a pause last week and just trying to figure out what those moving pieces are.

2799
04:46:39,600 --> 04:46:43,195
I'll leave it at that. That's where I'm at too. I think to all the point that's made,

2800
04:46:46,780 --> 04:46:49,900
we're moving forward to september 30th. You asked a question, leigh,

2801
04:46:51,280 --> 04:46:55,040
about adding an additional date. I didn't hear a desire across the board for that.

2802
04:46:59,920 --> 04:47:03,310
are we okay having the town hall on wednesday and then having the time in between to process,

2803
04:47:06,700 --> 04:47:08,950
ask questions, get information, and for a deeper discussion again on the 30th?

2804
04:47:12,690 --> 04:47:15,145
>> it's a question for you, dr. Hunt. I don't think we need a separate workshop,

2805
04:47:18,700 --> 04:47:18,700
but will it be possible to get a little bit more insight

2806
04:47:23,005 --> 04:47:23,005
on how district plans to outreach the dli community of wilson?

2807
04:47:31,015 --> 04:47:31,015
if we can get that before the action item, that will help us.

2808
04:47:36,865 --> 04:47:39,235
>> well, I think we can do that. I again, want clarity in that,

2809
04:47:44,080 --> 04:47:44,080
if you are not wanting dli to merge on one campus,

2810
04:47:49,300 --> 04:47:49,300
we will have to go back to our other schools to look at where ib could go to.

2811
04:47:57,010 --> 04:48:00,130
if that is the case and those other schools, as we've named them previously,

2812
04:48:03,490 --> 04:48:06,190
cottonwood creek and town center, we could also look at any of the others.

2813
04:48:08,665 --> 04:48:11,170
if that is a direction we're supposed to go, then I would think it would only be fair to have some type of meeting like this

2814
04:48:14,950 --> 04:48:14,950
because anytime you affect anybody's situation,

2815
04:48:20,305 --> 04:48:23,905
we're going to hear from that. I don't want it to be a bait and switch that, well, a lot of people complained,

2816
04:48:25,555 --> 04:48:29,500
so this is off the table. Well, that's going to be another group complaining, so we just have to be aware of that and be transparent with that.

2817
04:48:33,595 --> 04:48:37,390
because like we said, part of the reason why, even though I do think it could have program benefits,

2818
04:48:40,495 --> 04:48:40,495
even though we've heard from some families that they see program negatives,

2819
04:48:44,500 --> 04:48:47,950
having more space at wilson to move ib. That was one of the reasons why we looked forward.

2820
04:48:51,715 --> 04:48:53,845
we would have to look at one of the other footprints, which we certainly can.

2821
04:48:59,190 --> 04:48:59,190
>> then that would result in still a duplication of dli in two schools, right?

2822
04:49:07,765 --> 04:49:10,585
if we didn't combine. >> that would be $250,000 savings.

2823
04:49:14,155 --> 04:49:14,155
>> but that's going back to the efficiency conversation.

2824
04:49:19,195 --> 04:49:21,385
in the comments that I made, it's very tough because we've heard from the community and

2825
04:49:24,985 --> 04:49:24,985
heard from the kids and the impact that it would have.

2826
04:49:29,365 --> 04:49:31,765
but like I said, it just doesn't seem like you can harbor an inefficiency when everything is going fine.

2827
04:49:38,155 --> 04:49:38,155
but as soon as the enrollment is down and the dollars are down,

2828
04:49:43,570 --> 04:49:46,360
that inefficiency has to be looked at. Otherwise, you're not being fiscally responsible.

2829
04:49:50,290 --> 04:49:53,890
>> what's really important to us this whole entire time is that we have a methodical process that we've worked through.

2830
04:49:57,040 --> 04:49:57,040
then all of a sudden now to be throwing new options in left and right,

2831
04:50:01,405 --> 04:50:04,825
I'm highly uncomfortable with that. >> we're not advocating for that. I just want to be clear because when you all

2832
04:50:06,970 --> 04:50:10,495
talk about wanting more information about dli, more that we're going to share to you is basically going to be the same things.

2833
04:50:14,875 --> 04:50:17,005
it's not an efficient model now. It may not be what most parents want right now,

2834
04:50:20,560 --> 04:50:22,285
but they don't know what it could be. I do think that if given a chance,

2835
04:50:24,700 --> 04:50:27,715
we could really make that program even stronger, hearing feedback about what we need to do to ensure that that still happens,

2836
04:50:32,185 --> 04:50:34,150
there's that component of that. But I just want to be real clear on that because I

2837
04:50:36,940 --> 04:50:39,865
never really know for sure what direction you're going, I just want to make sure that I'm on the same page with you

2838
04:50:42,850 --> 04:50:45,865
all as far as expectations because like many of you, I wasn't expecting this outcome to be happening

2839
04:50:48,430 --> 04:50:52,345
now and I'm not opposed to it or in favor of it. It's news to me too,

2840
04:50:53,980 --> 04:50:57,835
so I just want to make sure that I'm going in the right direction for what you all need me to do. >> just to clarify my comment.

2841
04:50:59,380 --> 04:51:03,250
I wasn't alluding to any other options because I agree with [inaudible] at this stage, and new option.

2842
04:51:07,825 --> 04:51:11,350
that's just not fair to any part of our community. My only part was being,

2843
04:51:15,295 --> 04:51:17,785
we've done so many outreach, ms. Brown, your team has done such a great job.

2844
04:51:24,340 --> 04:51:28,000
I was just looking for more assurances to the community of how that outreach might be coming to them.

2845
04:51:31,630 --> 04:51:31,630
it's not the whole program of how dli is going to work.

2846
04:51:35,785 --> 04:51:35,785
I'm more concerned about that we are going to take care of our community,

2847
04:51:40,510 --> 04:51:44,380
we are going to take care of our learners and we have solid plans to outreach to them that nobody gets left behind.

2848
04:51:52,920 --> 04:51:56,245
>> I'm really unsettled with dli. The efficiency piece,

2849
04:51:57,535 --> 04:51:58,975
I'm not unsettled with. But some of the questions I asked tonight,

2850
04:52:01,930 --> 04:52:05,880
I have a really I have a really hard time knowing if I'm okay with it being at denton creek,

2851
04:52:10,045 --> 04:52:10,045
or if I would push and advocate for it to be at wilson.

2852
04:52:15,100 --> 04:52:17,410
I don't really know where I'm at on that because of some of the questions that were asked tonight.

2853
04:52:24,750 --> 04:52:28,750
I may be the only one who feels that unsettled, but it does lead to what you're talking about of,

2854
04:52:32,185 --> 04:52:36,160
if I pushed for wilson and I don't know that I would or wouldn't, but if I did, then it's pulling a thread in the whole thing.

2855
04:52:42,775 --> 04:52:45,430
that makes me wonder, do we need another,

2856
04:52:47,560 --> 04:52:47,560
maybe everybody else is very settled on dli and and I'm the outlier.

2857
04:52:54,390 --> 04:52:58,090
I have a hard time with us potentially getting information from staff and asking questions when we've done

2858
04:53:01,000 --> 04:53:04,240
such a great job of being transparent with the community and having these conversations publicly and you guys updating

2859
04:53:07,720 --> 04:53:07,720
the presentation to answer questions that I also don't want to feel anybody to

2860
04:53:12,790 --> 04:53:12,790
be under the impression that there's anything sneaky going on or anything either.

2861
04:53:18,385 --> 04:53:21,910
there's not, but I don't want to do anything to fuel that narrative either if people besides me need additional information about dli.

2862
04:53:29,850 --> 04:53:33,715
>> like I said, I may be the only one, so that's okay too. >> you're the only one because I think the issues that were brought up by

2863
04:53:37,450 --> 04:53:37,450
all the families tonight and the questions that we've asked.

2864
04:53:41,485 --> 04:53:43,180
>> frankly, the questions we've been asking. [overlapping] I appreciate the input but we've been asking eternal questions.

2865
04:53:46,585 --> 04:53:46,585
>> they're all hyper-relevant to whatever is going on and how to consolidate and where.

2866
04:53:55,090 --> 04:53:57,670
I think that will answer, I think, all the questions that we have out there,

2867
04:54:00,760 --> 04:54:04,390
if you can provide them to us and then that would help to know. Now, do we need to talk about that in another meeting to have them delivered to us?

2868
04:54:09,385 --> 04:54:09,385
I don't know. I'll leave that to the group.

2869
04:54:13,885 --> 04:54:13,885
we have a discussion on the 30th.

2870
04:54:20,430 --> 04:54:23,080
>> by the way, what does the 30th look like? Will we have multiple things on the agenda as the exact planning committee,

2871
04:54:28,180 --> 04:54:30,595
it means that usually we have a pretty heavy. >> maybe do this one first.

2872
04:54:32,320 --> 04:54:35,590
let's get through this piece because that does impact wednesday, and then we can certainly talk about the 30th.

2873
04:54:37,270 --> 04:54:38,290
I don't mean to cut you off. But because I feel like what I'm hearing from different people are different things,

2874
04:54:44,400 --> 04:54:47,280
and I also don't want to put staff in a bad spot. If they've got additional comments or questions or concerns,

2875
04:54:51,440 --> 04:54:53,950
again, I want to be transparent, but I also want to be clear of what it is that you're expecting us to do because

2876
04:54:57,505 --> 04:54:57,505
if you're not comfortable with dli being merged,

2877
04:55:01,585 --> 04:55:01,585
that does impact where ib is going to go.

2878
04:55:06,450 --> 04:55:09,025
>> I'm comfortable with it being merged. I'm not settled on where it should be.

2879
04:55:11,680 --> 04:55:14,440
I'm really wrestling with that and I could not make

2880
04:55:17,230 --> 04:55:17,230
a decision about that tonight because I don't have the information I need.

2881
04:55:21,810 --> 04:55:21,810
>> it should be between dce and wilson.

2882
04:55:27,820 --> 04:55:29,110
>> I totally understand that, but I asked some very specific questions tonight because I need more information.

2883
04:55:35,460 --> 04:55:35,460
>> that comes back to my september 30th question if it's just a vote or if it's

2884
04:55:40,390 --> 04:55:40,390
actually supposed to be a working discussing meeting because if that's.

2885
04:55:44,965 --> 04:55:48,190
>> regular meeting. We've kept the agenda into actually lights because I'm certain there's going to be open forum.

2886
04:55:52,210 --> 04:55:54,145
we had 83 people tonight. I don't know why that would change.

2887
04:55:56,570 --> 04:55:59,775
we had that during covid with mask, no mask. Now there was one point, I think we had three hours of open forum.

2888
04:56:03,150 --> 04:56:06,675
I don't expect that to change. There are some business items that need to be done and so we need to address that piece.

2889
04:56:11,415 --> 04:56:11,415
but for the most part, we'll be reviewing the options and board making a decision.

2890
04:56:17,430 --> 04:56:17,430
the option may only be an option if we're whittling things down tonight.

2891
04:56:23,085 --> 04:56:23,085
but again, in order for one school to consolidate,

2892
04:56:27,550 --> 04:56:29,845
it impacts other elementary schools, and especially if it's a specialized program school,

2893
04:56:32,380 --> 04:56:32,380
which it sounds like that's the direction that you're taking me,

2894
04:56:37,285 --> 04:56:37,285
then it has to be at a place where it takes the majority of the kids and educators.

2895
04:56:50,910 --> 04:56:50,910
we could do dli to wilson,

2896
04:56:55,015 --> 04:56:57,265
then ib would go to denton creek, if we're trying to just keep within that.

2897
04:56:59,155 --> 04:57:02,380
we did talk about cottonwood creek and town center, but not in a group where people were able to weigh in on that.

2898
04:57:08,740 --> 04:57:10,930
>> that's the question I asked. If it was the other way around,

2899
04:57:13,180 --> 04:57:15,160
what are the pros and cons of it? >> sure.

2900
04:57:19,950 --> 04:57:19,950
>> it sounds like that option would be the one that doesn't

2901
04:57:25,120 --> 04:57:25,120
disrupt everything and pull another school into the conversation.

2902
04:57:31,045 --> 04:57:33,430
>> well, it just still continues to be the three schools that were already in the conversation.

2903
04:57:35,920 --> 04:57:39,670
>> that's just a gamble for denton creek parents then. >> there will some spillover to some.

2904
04:57:42,175 --> 04:57:42,175
I know 25% of pinkerton was to austin,

2905
04:57:47,080 --> 04:57:47,080
but there could be some denton creek people that might be displaced that

2906
04:57:51,220 --> 04:57:51,220
weren't on the radar initially because they're not in the dli program,

2907
04:57:56,020 --> 04:57:57,775
but they are zoned to denton creek. Or, we hear this a lot from staff,

2908
04:58:00,655 --> 04:58:03,610
the north and victory place too, but mainly the north staff like denton creek is that they're out of

2909
04:58:07,530 --> 04:58:07,530
district option because they can drop their kid off right there and they work at north.

2910
04:58:12,495 --> 04:58:12,495
we do hear that from some staff members that are not employed at denton creek,

2911
04:58:18,790 --> 04:58:18,790
but they're at victory place or mainly north.

2912
04:58:22,900 --> 04:58:22,900
>> we need to have this more information gotten and then

2913
04:58:26,980 --> 04:58:26,980
schedule a workshop to talk about it.

2914
04:58:32,400 --> 04:58:36,220
>> if board members want any other option, I would want that in a workshop,

2915
04:58:38,515 --> 04:58:40,870
not in the formal meeting. That's for every board member's privilege and working with dr. Hunt.

2916
04:58:48,780 --> 04:58:51,550
my only thing is, I'm okay to go with what you're presenting,

2917
04:58:55,540 --> 04:58:59,245
but if we're going to look at any other options, then we need a workshop.

2918
04:59:01,135 --> 04:59:01,135
>> I would agree with that. If y'all want to see different iterations, then for sure.

2919
04:59:13,380 --> 04:59:17,320
at least be able to view it, see it, talk about it.

2920
04:59:19,180 --> 04:59:23,005
>> to be honest, the only attrition I would want to see, going back to the question I asked,

2921
04:59:25,480 --> 04:59:27,235
is what if it was flipped? What if dce had?

2922
04:59:29,785 --> 04:59:29,785
to me, the reason I gave before is about the equity part in my mind,

2923
04:59:36,685 --> 04:59:39,370
and I may be totally wrong because I do not have the data, but from the high level, I understand,

2924
04:59:45,685 --> 04:59:45,685
it's more comfortable for dce side of the community,

2925
04:59:54,745 --> 04:59:56,470
if they have to travel. It's not easy, but to me,

2926
04:59:58,900 --> 04:59:58,900
there is some part of equity that wilson parents might find it

2927
05:00:03,010 --> 05:00:03,010
much harder to transport their kids to a different school.

2928
05:00:09,090 --> 05:00:12,550
should that be the only decision for us? No. But if you're looking at options,

2929
05:00:16,900 --> 05:00:19,285
I wouldn't want to involve a third school right now. I would want it only between these two schools.

2930
05:00:21,970 --> 05:00:21,970
>> that could be another option is ib, like I said,

2931
05:00:26,305 --> 05:00:28,750
cottonwood creek or town center, but it does bring in another school to it.

2932
05:00:32,050 --> 05:00:33,565
>> I don't want to see that. >> I agree with you on that, manish.

2933
05:00:39,540 --> 05:00:39,540
>> I think we would have to really talk about it because then everybody that's

2934
05:00:43,840 --> 05:00:47,680
zoned to pinkerton would then they be zoned to wilson? Can wilson handle?

2935
05:00:49,135 --> 05:00:52,585
if you don't want to do you're actually zoned pinkerton, you don't choose ib,

2936
05:00:54,340 --> 05:00:54,340
then can wilson or where would they be zoned?

2937
05:00:58,345 --> 05:01:01,675
there are, as you say, threads that are pulled. >> 50% of the pinkerton children are already commuting because through lottery,

2938
05:01:07,645 --> 05:01:09,670
50% who we in pinkerton, they again get much affected.

2939
05:01:11,860 --> 05:01:11,860
it's still the three schools which are affected because now if they want to continue ib,

2940
05:01:16,840 --> 05:01:20,650
which I strongly believe they want to continue ib, they would have to figure out a way to drop the kids at denton creek,

2941
05:01:25,480 --> 05:01:29,320
which is much further away than wilson. >> but half of pinkerton is zoned to pinkerton.

2942
05:01:33,430 --> 05:01:37,120
>> that's the 50% I'm talking about. >> then 25% would go to austin. >> we're going to be affecting about 200 kids by this option.

2943
05:01:42,040 --> 05:01:45,250
those are the pros and cons I think. >> so we would have to discuss. >> nichole is asking for.

2944
05:01:46,120 --> 05:01:47,710
>> this would have to. >> the equity piece is part of what I need answered to help me get my mind about dli.

2945
05:01:52,180 --> 05:01:55,915
>> that's what I keep on saying about the outreach part, is there a way to bridge that equity part?

2946
05:02:01,410 --> 05:02:01,410
because many of those families don't even speak english,

2947
05:02:06,430 --> 05:02:06,430
if we can find an effective way to bridge that gap,

2948
05:02:12,150 --> 05:02:15,490
is the least disruptive of what's presented, but there is a big equity part in my head.

2949
05:02:17,905 --> 05:02:19,480
>> I don't want to make assumptions. That's part of why I'm asking you staff for the data because there

2950
05:02:23,770 --> 05:02:25,330
was an assumption tonight that most of the native spanish speakers live in the trailer parks.

2951
05:02:28,000 --> 05:02:31,645
that hasn't been my experience, and my kids had friends that lived in the trailer parks. I don't want to make assumptions that one school district or

2952
05:02:34,690 --> 05:02:34,690
one campus versus another has an easier time doing x, y, and z.

2953
05:02:38,785 --> 05:02:42,370
that's why I'm asking for the data. >> asking for the communication plan. My head was exactly they're not making assumptions.

2954
05:02:45,025 --> 05:02:47,275
just tell me what your solution is. >> because the same affordable housing option is also at denton creek.

2955
05:02:51,700 --> 05:02:54,220
denton creek have that type of a neighborhood, and so we don't want to make assumptions.

2956
05:02:56,110 --> 05:02:58,180
>> we don't want to make assumptions. >> exactly. >> but we also know there is that walkability factor when you're just across the street,

2957
05:03:02,260 --> 05:03:04,780
and so we want to be respectful of that. >> are you moving towards a workshop next monday and is that possible? I guess that's it.

2958
05:03:10,690 --> 05:03:12,400
>> I think anything is possible. I don't think it has to necessarily be on monday.

2959
05:03:15,435 --> 05:03:18,570
again, we were very strict with all the principals, do not have anything on these events because we do not want there to be a conflict.

2960
05:03:23,220 --> 05:03:23,220
that's why the chs9 changed their open house from wednesday.

2961
05:03:30,355 --> 05:03:33,955
they were going to have it at town hall and we said that's not going to work for a lot of reasons. Anyway, long story short,

2962
05:03:37,350 --> 05:03:41,320
let us look at some dates for it next week because it could be a tuesday or a wednesday because it depends upon.

2963
05:03:44,350 --> 05:03:47,620
>> wednesday is homecoming parade. >> homecoming and it has the tasb. >> but I guess it's monday.

2964
05:03:49,045 --> 05:03:50,350
>> or tuesday. >> if you're asking a lot for us for staff,

2965
05:03:53,410 --> 05:03:56,935
remember we're working on wednesday too. It's planned out. It's not like there's a lot of planning of that,

2966
05:04:00,340 --> 05:04:00,340
but that is a time absorber.

2967
05:04:04,960 --> 05:04:07,810
>> commitment. >> yeah, time commitment is a better way to say it. We're not able to work on other items.

2968
05:04:10,900 --> 05:04:10,900
>> let me ask a question to nichole a little bit differently.

2969
05:04:16,150 --> 05:04:19,990
if the district can present their communication plan in a way that I think we have the same doubt in our heads.

2970
05:04:24,190 --> 05:04:24,190
if they believe with their communication and their outreach efforts,

2971
05:04:29,725 --> 05:04:33,280
they can bridge and stick with the current plan because there are obviously benefits of that for the ib program,

2972
05:04:37,825 --> 05:04:41,640
at least affecting pinkerton. Do you still have those concerns?

2973
05:04:45,300 --> 05:04:45,300
because that's what I asked is present us with a real communication plan,

2974
05:04:51,850 --> 05:04:54,760
which is not a plan on how dli is going to work. It's just more of a outreach,

2975
05:04:56,410 --> 05:04:56,410
which we do in so many different ways throughout the year.

2976
05:05:00,490 --> 05:05:04,060
what will be the communication plan to outreach every parent that we don't leave anyone who really wants to benefit from dli.

2977
05:05:12,070 --> 05:05:14,695
we don't leave any of that family behind. Would you still want to see other option?

2978
05:05:17,620 --> 05:05:21,460
>> that piece, I believe we can do. It may not be fully fleshed out, but at least a big component to it.

2979
05:05:23,950 --> 05:05:23,950
we certainly talked about other footprint schools housing ib.

2980
05:05:29,935 --> 05:05:32,500
we just didn't bring it forward because we also factored in age of the building and other things.

2981
05:05:35,035 --> 05:05:38,785
we could go back to some of that preliminary work to show you all why it was not selected to begin with, but.

2982
05:05:43,405 --> 05:05:43,405
>> I feel like I'm the outlier here to a degree with the dli thing,

2983
05:05:49,270 --> 05:05:53,140
but I don't need us to do what we did with the andre realignment seven years ago where we ended up working up 10 different plan.

2984
05:05:58,045 --> 05:05:58,045
really, if we were considering either ib or

2985
05:06:02,200 --> 05:06:02,200
dli at denton creek and then the inverse true at wilson,

2986
05:06:08,760 --> 05:06:11,785
if I could get the questions answered, I'm not sure that I need another workshop,

2987
05:06:14,320 --> 05:06:16,360
but I do need to know more than the percentage of kids that are bused to each of the campuses.

2988
05:06:20,080 --> 05:06:23,275
>> yeah. We can certainly continue pulling that data. Again, we could also look at the inverse of that.

2989
05:06:26,815 --> 05:06:30,460
it's just when you think of where some of the zoned pinkerton kids are in denton creek, it's pretty far.

2990
05:06:36,295 --> 05:06:39,220
to your point, if they just decided, well, I don't want to do ib anymore,

2991
05:06:41,050 --> 05:06:44,965
where else would we go? We would have to look at that as staff. I don't think we have that handy.

2992
05:06:46,975 --> 05:06:46,975
I'm looking at the team and I feel like the answer is we don't.

2993
05:06:51,505 --> 05:06:51,505
>> if you're not zoning pinkerton.

2994
05:06:57,300 --> 05:07:00,610
>> I didn't want to speak for anybody, but. >> that was a don't make eye contact.

2995
05:07:02,875 --> 05:07:04,090
>> it feels like I'm over. For me, maybe you guys just need to answer the questions and

2996
05:07:09,145 --> 05:07:09,145
email them out to the board and maybe it doesn't need a workshop.

2997
05:07:14,395 --> 05:07:17,665
I don't know. But to vote on the 30th, I don't have the information that I need about the dli program.

2998
05:07:20,875 --> 05:07:24,300
>> sure. >> let's see if you get what you're looking for.

2999
05:07:30,175 --> 05:07:33,640
we have until friday to decide if it's going to be monday. Well, or tuesday because yeah.

3000
05:07:35,995 --> 05:07:39,310
>> tuesday seems better. >> yes, ma'am. >> I had a question.

3001
05:07:40,585 --> 05:07:40,585
nichole, would you just clarify the questions one more time?

3002
05:07:46,560 --> 05:07:46,560
>> my big ideas are the question that's not

3003
05:07:50,980 --> 05:07:54,745
answered based on the percentage of kids that are busing. For me, the kids on each of those campuses that are qualified

3004
05:08:00,655 --> 05:08:00,655
for the dli program out of state requirements and need.

3005
05:08:08,010 --> 05:08:11,785
what percentage of those kids are walking to campus? What percentage of those kids fall into our low socioeconomic,

3006
05:08:18,310 --> 05:08:20,710
where there might be a legitimate hardship on families being able to engage on the other campus.

3007
05:08:23,980 --> 05:08:27,820
those are the two big questions I really need answered, angie, to be able to make an informed decision.

3008
05:08:31,030 --> 05:08:34,150
>> we can do that. Correct. >> do you want it for both schools?

3009
05:08:36,025 --> 05:08:39,565
>> yeah, I would like it for both schools. >> we'll do that. >> thank you.

3010
05:08:42,420 --> 05:08:42,420
>> someone have a plan for that question then? Moving forward.

3011
05:08:51,240 --> 05:08:53,470
>> as far as the answer? >> yeah. A strategy for getting what you're looking for,

3012
05:08:55,945 --> 05:08:55,945
you guys? That's what I just heard.

3013
05:09:00,610 --> 05:09:03,190
>> you guys are going to email us first. >> that's what I'm saying. >> I'm fine with that. I'm fine with being emailed the answers to my questions.

3014
05:09:07,680 --> 05:09:10,300
like we do at regular board meetings. >> then you're going to decide if you're still not comfortable when you read about it.

3015
05:09:13,615 --> 05:09:16,420
>> yes. >> perfect. What else? >> a move we adjourn.

3016
05:09:23,800 --> 05:09:23,800
>> before we do that. Just clarity for the team.

3017
05:09:28,920 --> 05:09:28,920
new tech, a three-year plan?

3018
05:09:33,160 --> 05:09:34,495
>> yes. >> yes. >> austin, we're not moving forward with austin.

3019
05:09:38,710 --> 05:09:39,535
>> correct. >> ib at wilson or denton creek.

3020
05:09:45,685 --> 05:09:49,555
>> we don't know. >> dual language at wilson or denton creek. But pinkerton is being consolidated with the other schools that we have,

3021
05:09:55,225 --> 05:09:58,660
I guess it was 75%. >> we don't know that yet. [overlapping] but it's still on the sheet.

3022
05:10:03,180 --> 05:10:03,180
>> then if we could end on that slide about wednesday, naveen.

3023
05:10:12,360 --> 05:10:12,360
wednesday at chs9. Again,

3024
05:10:17,425 --> 05:10:20,380
5:30 is when we'll open up the doors to sign up, and we're going to ask people to stop signing up by 6:15,

3025
05:10:23,845 --> 05:10:27,085
so we can have a good idea of how many people that will determine if it's a minute or a minute and a half and we'll have a few short slides,

3026
05:10:31,930 --> 05:10:35,590
but it will really be an opportunity for the community to provide input. >> I second manish's motion.

3027
05:10:38,410 --> 05:10:41,700
>> we have a motion to adjourn by trustee manish sethi, seconded by trustee nichole bentley. All in favor?

3028
05:10:46,650 --> 05:10:49,305
that motion passes 7-0. Just a reminder to everybody too before you cut the mic off if you don't mind.

3029
05:10:53,165 --> 05:10:53,165
we've talked a lot about legislative stuff and just a reminder for you guys.

3030
05:10:57,790 --> 05:10:57,790
next week the chamber does have an opportunity to hear from our state senator.

3031
05:11:02,095 --> 05:11:02,095
then I don't have the exact date. Yeah, the 25th.

3032
05:11:06,295 --> 05:11:08,315
then in a few weeks, there will be a forum for our house 115 candidates.

3033
05:11:14,010 --> 05:11:15,750
go to the website for that information, coppell chamber and that's all. Thank you all.

3034
05:11:18,150 --> 05:11:18,150
>> thank you.