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thank you

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called to order the meeting of the town

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of Sebastopol

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Board of Supervisors for Monday February

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24th

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at seven o'clock

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I'll ask that you rise and join with me

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in the Pledge of Allegiance

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I pledge allegianism

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thank you

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roll call to establish a foreign

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supervisor Weidman here supervisor Tice

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chairman zipper here supervisor wolfel

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here supervisor stavinus here

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as is customary we do start with the

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meetings of the people that are

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with us tonight

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let me followed around with lady in the

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video

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start down on the end Linda you want to

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start Linda White clerk treasurer

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dick Weidman board supervisor Chuck Tice

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supervisor Leo zipper of the Town chair

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Dan waffle supervisor John stavnus

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supervisor

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good Dan mathi and Gordon Road

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fire chief

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um

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Joan Jeske the entire jacksonport town

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resident

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Victoria Sarah Sebastopol resident

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okay and the bearded wonder is

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no that's a growth in the last couple of

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months

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it's great it looks good well thanks for

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being here the agenda has been properly

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noticed it has

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stopped second

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we will skip around a little bit we're

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going to go to the Special Report first

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with fire

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annual fire uh report and then we'll go

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down to the resolution on the mutual Aid

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box alarm system agreement

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but everything else should follow in

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order

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so with those notes all in favor signify

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for saying aye all right those

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and it's carried we're a little ahead of

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schedule but

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Chief Tim and assistant chief Tim what

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is this you want to get a job if your

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name is Tim then

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all right it's all yours go right ahead

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all right this evening we're going to

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just present the annual fire report

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for Sebastopol I'd like to begin with

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our mission statement which is

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the sturge Bay Fire Department's mission

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is to protect life and property and fire

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medical and environmental emergencies

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for our community Through public

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education code management and incident

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response

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uh the next slide really is just a list

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of our equipment but uh

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like to call attention to a couple

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specialty vehicles and those are listed

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on the bottom and that's a Special

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Response trailer which has all kinds of

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specialty equipment in there mostly for

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trench rescue

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um for Decon should there be some sort

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of hazardous materials spill uh we have

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kinds of things in that particular um

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in that trailer you also have a small

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inflatable boat and then our Marine One

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boat which is

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yeah okay

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um and that's the book that we share

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with the police department the police

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use it for patrol and the fire uses it

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for rescues so what we do and the reason

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I want to bring these the two bullets up

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is what we do in Sebastopol or for for

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response in this area is that we take

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both one is by Landon and the other one

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by sea because of the different weather

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conditions and we don't know what the

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lake is going to be like or the Bayside

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Bay is going to be like whether the

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people that need rescue are in really

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shallow water or not we will take the

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small inflatable rigid haul inflatable

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by land to the scene and then our big

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bowl leaves that's in the wall water all

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the time and that leaves directly from

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the dock and it's pretty interesting

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that's a fast really fast boat and

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that'll beat us most of the time to the

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scene over the truck in Richmond Hill

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where's ellen.com that one is docked on

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by the DNR office so it's a close

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response for the West Side guys to run

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it means he'll break the speed limit

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well if it's an emergency we're allowed

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to but she's a long trip back especially

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if we're coming through the canal

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and probably I know we've talked about

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this before but for the people watching

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out there oftentimes we get to question

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why do we need all this ice rescue

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equipment why do we need all the water

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rescue equipment when we have three

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Coast Guard detachments in Sturgeon Bay

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in the quick answer to that is that the

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Coast Guard excuse me takes a minimum of

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20 minutes to respond out of their

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station it's just the way it is it's not

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because they're not ready they have to

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get approval from Coast Guard Milwaukee

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and sometimes from Cleveland before they

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so if you're the person in the water in

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20 minutes oftentimes it's going to be

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too long

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this is just a list of our personnel and

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is that we do have four of our part-time

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um that live in sebastopoliters fast

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full-time residents uh mentioned it a

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few years ago where we had passed an

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ordinance in the city allowing part-time

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firefighters to live either in

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Sebastopol or Thomas Sturgeon Bay which

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are the two townships we contract with

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in act act 20 this year in the

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governor's budget it was included in no

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residency law for municipalities

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however there was a we could put on a

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15-mile limit for firefighters and

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police officers so the city's in the

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process of doing that but all other

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residency requirements and

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municipalities has been lifted

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and of course the police and fire and

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ambulance personality it's important to

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have a quick response

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total number of calls for a town of uh

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for the fire department received was

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1166.

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number of calls in Sebastopol was 59 I

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think down one from last year is that

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correct yep uh we had 57 fire calls or

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what's classified in the National

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reporting system as fire calls and two

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emergency medical calls that we provided

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back up um as requested by the ambulance

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average response time and Thomas

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Sebastopol was 9 minutes and 42 seconds

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for emergency calls it was 8 minutes and

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non-emergent calls have a better

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response time than an emergency it just

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depends where they are in any given year

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throughout your Township

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told staff hours their total staff for

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all calls uh was 346 staff members

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total staff hours for

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311.22 dollars

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we provided 140 inspections from 92

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violations

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and spent 108 hours

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inspecting you sure we put on public

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safety education programs uh Sebastopol

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Elementary School is our big one but we

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career day at mwtc which includes all

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um and then we got just a number of

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places plus

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tours where the schools come in to see

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this is the incident type broken down by

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group

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there was only one of those structured

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fires we had Fords basketball last year

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and I don't usually bring the previous

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year's report and I forgot I'm not sure

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how many structure fires that were the

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grass outside fires we had six ice and

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water rescues with five that number is

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going up

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not just in Sebastopol but sturgey Bay

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and in every place else we respond it

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seems like there's more and more people

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using the jet skis The Kayaks

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types of things open the ice of course

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service calls one animal problem one I

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do not think that was a bear I'm not

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sure what the animal was carbon monoxide

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threat to burn

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that was an investigation on a person

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who's threatening to burn something down

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makes a residential Echo

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and then smoker odor scares

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a number of dispatching canceled calls

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fire in other words the false alarms we

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had 12 of the listen in the Thomas

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the most of them were just honest

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detector activations with no fire either

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a dirty smoke detector

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CO detector that went off for no reason

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but a couple of them were from hotels

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motels where people kids usually pull

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the whole station

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so that wasn't today

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are we getting a lot of repeats

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going to the same uh our biggest one

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there is an inn on Bayshore Drive that

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has a fair number of smoke detectors

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that are

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aging and they are replacing them as

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they go so they have stock cloud and new

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ones there in the league of faulty when

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they put it in two places have you

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instigated or instituted any kind of a

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key chart or answering those you know we

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have not it hasn't been a big um

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to us and if somebody was you know if

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they weren't making an effort to change

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all those detectors we would certainly

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look at something but we haven't run in

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regardless of that so maybe thanks sir

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when you get one of those alarm calls or

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equipment would normally go to a scene

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all stations would respond

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um and then we would call a shift of our

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10 people in which would be five

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firefighters besides and they would

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start and Route as well so regulatable

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stations would go

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but a lot of it goes on the information

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that we're given at dispatch you know

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it's a lot of times it's a smoke

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detector we don't see any smoke or fire

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we do end services for all the hotels

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motels tell them you know what we want

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them to do when they're when the alarm

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sounds so we get some good information

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if we get information that says

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obviously they smell smoke that would be

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an alcohol for all off-duty health and

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every PC is working you have

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so again we do a lot of it depends on

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all of them but of course alarm false

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well the four guys on duty is you know

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it's really just the the cost of the gas

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and going the Five Guys that will call

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in certainly is a cost Factor but

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um again I don't see any big pattern

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like it's not like tenables 12 came from

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one place you know I think the most that

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hotel that is maybe four or something so

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the normal response is a engine six

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or uh do you have another one that would

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we have uh unit six unit eight and then

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uh the two tankers would be coming with

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the part-time guys for four units would

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be responding to that alarm clock

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I'm sorry very good job

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well

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it happens to be the resort you have on

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the North End of wooden Drive typically

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we'll call in two shifts and get more

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guys going just because of the the time

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that it takes to go up there

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all right

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uh this one's an interesting thing that

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uh

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I don't know the media loves it I guess

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but uh

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most common day to have a fire call was

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Friday and Saturdays this year that was

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tied

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um

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I think in the city it was uh

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Saturday at 2 A.M

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um it's fast Falls Friday or Saturday

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and the most common hour was three

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o'clock in the afternoon

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better than the 2 A.M in the city in

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that bar closing yeah

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that has a lot to do with it

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foreign

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incidents were 311.

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I think we went through this already

322
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these are just a couple pictures that I

323
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want to point out at the couple

324
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interesting things these were in

325
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Sebastopol structure fires so this one

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was in a small storage room and what I

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wanted to point out for the public here

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is that they look at this door and you

329
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can see that burn

330
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demarcation right there this bathroom

331
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door was closed it's hard to see by the

332
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photos but that's just a holla core door

333
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that burns through relatively quick but

334
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that bedroom or that bathroom right

335
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across from the room that was burning

336
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was hardly touched because of that

337
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Hollow core door being closed the rest

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of the apartment cover coming this way

339
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all the way down was as black as you see

340
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everything else along here so my point

341
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is anytime you can keep doors closed

342
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um you should do that we tell people to

343
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keep bedroom doors closed and any door

344
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they can close because even if it is a

345
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hollow core door it'll really slow down

346
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the spread of fire and in this case it

347
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was just remarkable

348
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way on the other end of the department

349
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the curtains the light fixtures

350
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everything we're just all melted down

351
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from the heat because North doors were

352
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closed you can see all that fire exited

353
00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:19,680
all

354
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this was part of our investigation

355
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that's what the room looked like

356
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initially

357
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and then once we clean it out take a

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right down to the floor piece by piece

359
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and then reconstruct the room to

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determine the cause

361
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this one was on South Cave Point Drive

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and I bring this one forward because I

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think a lot of people have done what was

364
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inadvertently done in this house this

365
00:16:47,519 --> 00:16:49,259
was a remodeled job

366
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and part of the house was remodeled and

367
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the

368
00:16:54,839 --> 00:16:58,259
can lights like you have under there

369
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um

370
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the new ones are thermally protected so

371
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you can insulate over them

372
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the old part of the house was not

373
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remodeled and had can lights from the

374
00:17:08,939 --> 00:17:11,400
70s in there prior to the thermal

375
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protection

376
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when they remodeled they had the

377
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insulators come in and re-insulate the

378
00:17:16,439 --> 00:17:18,540
whole house the result was that they

379
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covered up this can light right here

380
00:17:22,380 --> 00:17:24,780
um or towards the ears of the house

381
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in the bathroom

382
00:17:27,419 --> 00:17:29,640
he was in a bathroom and that light was

383
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left on for an extended period of time

384
00:17:31,740 --> 00:17:35,220
in November through December and started

385
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this particular house fire I think about

386
00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,160
160 thousand dollars worth of damage

387
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Flames coming out of the attic when the

388
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call was calling and so

389
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you know the blown in insulation is

390
00:17:48,299 --> 00:17:50,160
great stuff just make sure it's done

391
00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,100
correctly and not blown against uh

392
00:17:53,100 --> 00:17:56,460
light fixtures that get hot

393
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and that's it if there's any questions

394
00:17:58,500 --> 00:18:02,160
on a report or anything required

395
00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,799
I do know that you uh

396
00:18:04,799 --> 00:18:09,059
you do twice a year inspection on our

397
00:18:09,059 --> 00:18:12,299
license beverage establishments

398
00:18:12,299 --> 00:18:16,559
correct do you have any kind of a

399
00:18:16,559 --> 00:18:20,039
report as far as how many of those you

400
00:18:20,039 --> 00:18:22,620
I do not have that with me unless broken

401
00:18:22,620 --> 00:18:26,660
down I don't know how many lessons

402
00:18:26,660 --> 00:18:30,179
14 license we do each of those

403
00:18:30,179 --> 00:18:34,559
make sure we get those done by May or so

404
00:18:34,559 --> 00:18:37,440
and then I usually send Linda a notice

405
00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,080
if there's a particular issue with any

406
00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,059
of those horse and facilities and we've

407
00:18:42,059 --> 00:18:44,400
had that one problem one

408
00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:45,179
um

409
00:18:45,179 --> 00:18:47,460
been ongoing and

410
00:18:47,460 --> 00:18:51,000
Sometimes some of these places are um I

411
00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,980
don't want to pick on any one place but

412
00:18:52,980 --> 00:18:56,640
you get them cleaned up and

413
00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,919
you know six months or a year later they

414
00:18:58,919 --> 00:19:00,600
have a tendency to go back to that same

415
00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:01,679
waste

416
00:19:01,679 --> 00:19:04,140
and we try to keep our animal on the

417
00:19:04,140 --> 00:19:07,260
best we can Leo can I ask them a

418
00:19:07,260 --> 00:19:10,860
question please thank you sir hello how

419
00:19:10,860 --> 00:19:12,240
do you determine if they're thermally

420
00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,280
insulated these cannons or we have some

421
00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,280
that are 23 years old on their house the

422
00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,700
light fixture should be taped

423
00:19:19,700 --> 00:19:22,320
that is thermal insulated otherwise

424
00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:26,100
you'll see a sensor up in the light that

425
00:19:26,100 --> 00:19:27,660
shuts it down should it get too hot

426
00:19:27,660 --> 00:19:30,480
should be labeled it should be labeled

427
00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,000
right up on the top or sometime this is

428
00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,500
on the side of the white pitch yeah

429
00:19:34,500 --> 00:19:38,930
absolutely

430
00:19:38,940 --> 00:19:41,100
okay are there any other questions sure

431
00:19:41,100 --> 00:19:42,480
I mean if there's anything in the fire

432
00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,500
department can do in helping clean up

433
00:19:46,500 --> 00:19:48,960
some of the neighborhoods we've got a

434
00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,179
host that's been burned off for several

435
00:19:51,179 --> 00:19:52,620
years now

436
00:19:52,620 --> 00:19:56,400
and the lawn and the yard is a filthy

437
00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,160
mess and is there anything in the player

438
00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:00,840
Department regulations and that that

439
00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,299
would help there is if we can determine

440
00:20:03,299 --> 00:20:07,440
that it is a fire hazard or a health

441
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,419
hazard we can go to the health officer

442
00:20:09,419 --> 00:20:13,140
but if it's fire hazard I think we had a

443
00:20:13,140 --> 00:20:15,419
barn or a small shed

444
00:20:15,419 --> 00:20:18,780
consult Fox Lake Road wasn't it

445
00:20:18,780 --> 00:20:20,700
um that I wrote the owner of the letter

446
00:20:20,700 --> 00:20:21,799
and

447
00:20:21,799 --> 00:20:26,100
uh blow the letter and they ended up

448
00:20:26,100 --> 00:20:27,600
tearing it down so I'd be more than

449
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,100
happy to look at it for you if you'd

450
00:20:29,100 --> 00:20:31,799
like get together sure give me a call

451
00:20:31,799 --> 00:20:33,660
and we'll take a look maybe one of the

452
00:20:33,660 --> 00:20:35,220
snow melts a little more and get a

453
00:20:35,220 --> 00:20:39,430
better view of it that way

454
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,480
the snow doesn't melt okay no other

455
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,419
questions let's go down to the agenda

456
00:20:45,419 --> 00:20:46,620
item

457
00:20:46,620 --> 00:20:51,440
would be resolution in 2014 0-1

458
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,780
which is a mutual Aid box alarm

459
00:20:54,780 --> 00:20:57,780
system agreement

460
00:20:57,780 --> 00:21:00,200
uh

461
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,299
it indicates that we're going to do this

462
00:21:03,299 --> 00:21:09,470
with our neighboring states as well

463
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,880
so we'll uh why don't you explain it to

464
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,679
us and then we'll act on it after you

465
00:21:13,679 --> 00:21:16,919
okay tell us what it's all about

466
00:21:16,919 --> 00:21:19,440
I won't go into all the uh

467
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,320
intricate details of it but as you may

468
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,320
be aware of all the fire departments and

469
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,080
during Kiwani County have had a signed

470
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,260
Mutual Aid agreement for many years

471
00:21:31,260 --> 00:21:33,720
um a number of years ago they came out

472
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,380
with the Mavis system uh Mutual Aid box

473
00:21:37,380 --> 00:21:40,200
alarm system agreement and that really

474
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,620
was the result of 9 11 Hurricane Katrina

475
00:21:43,620 --> 00:21:46,260
and some bigger disasters across the

476
00:21:46,260 --> 00:21:49,380
country and where it became popular in

477
00:21:49,380 --> 00:21:51,419
Wisconsin was down around the borders

478
00:21:51,419 --> 00:21:54,500
Kenosha in those areas where

479
00:21:54,500 --> 00:21:56,580
oftentimes they needed specialty

480
00:21:56,580 --> 00:21:59,460
requests or specially Mutual aid from

481
00:21:59,460 --> 00:22:01,140
across the border and that made things

482
00:22:01,140 --> 00:22:03,419
even more complicated so they came out

483
00:22:03,419 --> 00:22:05,480
with this Mavis system

484
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:10,080
the state has adopted it by Statute and

485
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,380
the importance as I see of it is that

486
00:22:13,380 --> 00:22:16,200
should or when the big one hits Door

487
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,440
County and we don't have enough

488
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,260
Resources with indoor or even Kiwani

489
00:22:22,260 --> 00:22:25,080
County to either handle it immediately

490
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,960
or if it's a sustained incident such as

491
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,200
a major tornado would be we can call

492
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,919
upon Mutual aid from wherever

493
00:22:34,919 --> 00:22:37,020
um and get it free as long as we follow

494
00:22:37,020 --> 00:22:40,380
the protocols on doing that and that's

495
00:22:40,380 --> 00:22:43,080
huge uh because if we had to call in the

496
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,260
Green Bay and ashlock or even Milwaukee

497
00:22:46,260 --> 00:22:48,980
for something the cost of that would be

498
00:22:48,980 --> 00:22:50,659
astronomical

499
00:22:50,659 --> 00:22:53,880
so really it's a Statewide Mutual Aid

500
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,280
there's no charge for labor no charge

501
00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,120
for equipment along with that is a box

502
00:23:00,120 --> 00:23:02,940
card system you've probably seen or

503
00:23:02,940 --> 00:23:05,940
watched movies where they'll call for an

504
00:23:05,940 --> 00:23:07,500
acquiry department will call for a third

505
00:23:07,500 --> 00:23:09,360
alarm or a fourth alarm or a Fifth Alarm

506
00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:12,120
and the county will have the fire

507
00:23:12,120 --> 00:23:13,860
departments in the county will develop

508
00:23:13,860 --> 00:23:15,500
that card system

509
00:23:15,500 --> 00:23:18,539
so that we can call in the dispatch and

510
00:23:18,539 --> 00:23:23,179
remove preview terms if we call a box alarm number two

511
00:23:23,179 --> 00:23:26,880
from Sturgeon Bay of say somebody else

512
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,280
is calling it from Sturgeon Bay that box

513
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,620
alarm number two will say this is what

514
00:23:31,620 --> 00:23:34,140
they want and it dictates

515
00:23:34,140 --> 00:23:37,559
what's what's going to respond the most

516
00:23:37,559 --> 00:23:40,020
recent use of the state's Mutual Aid

517
00:23:40,020 --> 00:23:44,100
System was in the Pulaski fire a year or

518
00:23:44,100 --> 00:23:46,580
two ago when like half the downtown burn

519
00:23:46,580 --> 00:23:49,559
those Mutual Aid System Green Bay's been

520
00:23:49,559 --> 00:23:51,720
using it for a couple of years they were

521
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,440
part of that Pulaski fire

522
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,780
interestingly enough Green Bay actually

523
00:23:57,780 --> 00:24:00,240
calls for the mutual aid from the

524
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,039
surrounding areas more than the

525
00:24:02,039 --> 00:24:03,720
surrounding areas of

526
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,020
from Green Bay and that's because Green

527
00:24:07,020 --> 00:24:09,840
Bay is kind of downsized and don't have

528
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,659
as many engine companies at a station so

529
00:24:12,659 --> 00:24:14,700
when they have a large fire they have to

530
00:24:14,700 --> 00:24:17,340
move more of their stations in towards

531
00:24:17,340 --> 00:24:19,080
that fire which leaves the outline

532
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,220
stations empty through this system

533
00:24:22,220 --> 00:24:25,200
through the box cart alarm system Green

534
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,500
Bay calls for box alarm Howard or you

535
00:24:28,500 --> 00:24:31,159
know one of those townships moves in so

536
00:24:31,159 --> 00:24:33,960
you know that's that's kind of all of

537
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,900
our operational stuff and tactical stuff

538
00:24:36,900 --> 00:24:40,020
the big deal here is to ensure that we

539
00:24:40,020 --> 00:24:42,780
can get Mutual Aid free and that's

540
00:24:42,780 --> 00:24:45,860
really the reason for the resolution

541
00:24:45,860 --> 00:24:48,780
we are one of the last there's four

542
00:24:48,780 --> 00:24:50,640
counties left in the state that have not

543
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,860
signed on to it

544
00:24:52,860 --> 00:24:56,400
um the other good part is we can deny or

545
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,580
turn down a request

546
00:24:58,580 --> 00:25:01,320
say we have stuff going on here you know

547
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,299
the tornado hits several counties or

548
00:25:03,299 --> 00:25:05,880
whatever and they call sturge Bay or or

549
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,840
whomever bug or for help if we're all

550
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,179
busy we can turn that down and then they

551
00:25:12,179 --> 00:25:14,220
just move to the next card to the next

552
00:25:14,220 --> 00:25:17,039
location but we've been on Kiwanis for

553
00:25:17,039 --> 00:25:18,740
about a year now

554
00:25:18,740 --> 00:25:21,480
if they have fires then we would move up

555
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,580
to a home or a castle wherever they

556
00:25:23,580 --> 00:25:26,100
would need us

557
00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:29,580
I read through the agreement and I find

558
00:25:29,580 --> 00:25:31,880
that

559
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,320
it was important for Illinois and

560
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,299
Wisconsin counties

561
00:25:36,299 --> 00:25:39,779
or units to coordinate the mutual effort

562
00:25:39,779 --> 00:25:42,419
I thought we bordered also on Minnesota

563
00:25:42,419 --> 00:25:44,880
Iowa and Michigan

564
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,520
but there's nothing to mention that in

565
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,260
here

566
00:25:49,260 --> 00:25:52,080
there is not and those states are moving

567
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,240
into the Mavis as well Wisconsin does

568
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,240
subject a part of anything now I don't

569
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,700
know how much of them or how much they

570
00:25:59,700 --> 00:26:02,820
are I know Wisconsin has an agreement

571
00:26:02,820 --> 00:26:06,000
with Minnesota for forest fires because

572
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,400
we don't have any air support in the

573
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,900
state of Wisconsin they all come out of

574
00:26:09,900 --> 00:26:12,480
Minnesota when there's a course there I

575
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,380
have had our City attorney Randy Nesbitt

576
00:26:16,380 --> 00:26:18,740
reviewed the contract in the agreement

577
00:26:18,740 --> 00:26:22,200
and he has approved it as far as the

578
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,299
city goes

579
00:26:24,299 --> 00:26:27,000
and it's Randy here attorney as well so

580
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,100
don't pay them to look at it they're

581
00:26:29,100 --> 00:26:30,200
weird

582
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,679
as I read through this it sounds like

583
00:26:34,679 --> 00:26:37,440
should sturgeon baby called out to say

584
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,100
Green Bay your first obligation would be

585
00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:43,679
to staff their Firehouse while their

586
00:26:43,679 --> 00:26:45,840
people are out doing fighting the fire

587
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,000
or taking care of the situation

588
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,120
but that could change that can change

589
00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:53,820
yeah so just like Mutual Aid works now

590
00:26:53,820 --> 00:26:55,080
sometimes

591
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,059
um you know if we come up here we'll

592
00:26:57,059 --> 00:26:58,679
have Southern door coming to our West

593
00:26:58,679 --> 00:27:01,799
Side Station and cover that for us

594
00:27:01,799 --> 00:27:03,840
um but when we call each later or

595
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,760
somebody else calls us from Mutual Aid

596
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,100
and we may be fighting fires maybe maybe

597
00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:11,220
hauling water they may need us for our

598
00:27:11,220 --> 00:27:14,580
confined space stuff wherever they need

599
00:27:14,580 --> 00:27:17,760
us whatever they need but but the whole

600
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,700
idea of his of it is not to leave any

601
00:27:20,700 --> 00:27:23,700
Community there and oftentimes that

602
00:27:23,700 --> 00:27:26,279
happens with mutually mutilate is called

603
00:27:26,279 --> 00:27:28,860
and everybody comes running they kind of

604
00:27:28,860 --> 00:27:30,120
forget about

605
00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:33,480
covering their own area so the call from

606
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,460
another

607
00:27:35,460 --> 00:27:36,620
Department

608
00:27:36,620 --> 00:27:39,240
requesting a specific engine the

609
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,460
determination is up to you

610
00:27:41,460 --> 00:27:43,020
as to whether or not you're going to

611
00:27:43,020 --> 00:27:45,539
allow that to happen correct

612
00:27:45,539 --> 00:27:48,720
as long as we're not busy we'll go and

613
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,919
if they request for example uh two

614
00:27:52,919 --> 00:27:54,960
engines and two tankers from Sturgeon

615
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,600
Bay we'll send them but now that leaves

616
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:58,500
us

617
00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:01,320
really sharp so that's then when we

618
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,419
would call our boxed alarm in the

619
00:28:03,419 --> 00:28:04,919
dispatch and they would have another

620
00:28:04,919 --> 00:28:07,500
department move up in the Sturgeon Bay

621
00:28:07,500 --> 00:28:09,600
the agreement also went on to say should

622
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,400
we need that equipment back home you

623
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,140
have the right to bring it back home too

624
00:28:13,140 --> 00:28:14,960
correct So

625
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,400
eventually the guy in Key West does not

626
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:22,269
get any fire protection

627
00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:26,299
it really is a good deal for us

628
00:28:26,299 --> 00:28:29,400
you know we the reason we haven't joined

629
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,080
this earlier is because we looked at

630
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,960
Door County you know a few years ago and

631
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,279
said

632
00:28:35,279 --> 00:28:37,679
you know we can't pull from the East we

633
00:28:37,679 --> 00:28:39,600
can't pull from the West we really have

634
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,700
a good system going

635
00:28:41,700 --> 00:28:44,900
um do we really need to do this

636
00:28:44,900 --> 00:28:48,059
but when it became clear that we don't

637
00:28:48,059 --> 00:28:49,740
do it we will be billed for outside

638
00:28:49,740 --> 00:28:56,640
Services that's when we decided just last week or the week before if we

639
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,080
have any other concerns or questions

640
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,779
comments

641
00:29:00,779 --> 00:29:02,880
an entertaining motion then to approve

642
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,059
resolution in 2014 to improve the

643
00:29:06,059 --> 00:29:09,490
resolution number

644
00:29:09,500 --> 00:29:13,200
2014-01 TD I'll second that

645
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,880
motion made in the second outside of a

646
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:21,059
typographical on page two

647
00:29:21,059 --> 00:29:23,340
no further discussion all in favor say

648
00:29:23,340 --> 00:29:25,980
aye aye all right all right and it is

649
00:29:25,980 --> 00:29:27,539
caring

650
00:29:27,539 --> 00:29:29,880
we thank you for your time and thank you

651
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,279
I'll show you

652
00:29:32,279 --> 00:29:35,230
the information

653
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:45,049
thanks for coming

654
00:29:45,059 --> 00:29:46,220
yeah

655
00:29:46,220 --> 00:29:47,779
maybe

656
00:29:47,779 --> 00:29:52,850
yeah okay

657
00:29:52,860 --> 00:29:55,559
are you going to have a fish in the

658
00:29:55,559 --> 00:29:58,500
Sturgeon Bay deal again this year yes

659
00:29:58,500 --> 00:30:02,940
they are am I gonna personally know

660
00:30:02,940 --> 00:30:05,760
that turned out not to be it that was

661
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,460
the first slide that turned out to be a

662
00:30:08,460 --> 00:30:11,580
non-for-profit uh or deal

663
00:30:11,580 --> 00:30:13,440
I think everybody was well pleased with

664
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,480
it they thought it was a good deal

665
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,810
yeah

666
00:30:19,820 --> 00:30:22,559
I have some ideas we missed your car

667
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:26,399
being nice this past weekend yeah you

668
00:30:26,399 --> 00:30:27,960
see a lot of them are destroyed already

669
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:35,830
melted

670
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,179
thank you all right thanks guys

671
00:30:39,179 --> 00:30:41,520
okay let's back up a little bit uh

672
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,440
number four on the agenda would be

673
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,840
public participation do we have

674
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,760
anyone in the public that would like to

675
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:57,350
make a statement now

676
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,580
program but I can't wait until you reach

677
00:30:59,580 --> 00:31:02,279
that on your agenda we'll call on you

678
00:31:02,279 --> 00:31:03,720
then okay

679
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,539
anyone else Joe

680
00:31:06,539 --> 00:31:08,820
Joan Jeske recently retired principal

681
00:31:08,820 --> 00:31:11,640
for example schools I'm making my rounds

682
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,559
around to the town boards and door in

683
00:31:13,559 --> 00:31:16,440
Kiwani County because I'm seriously

684
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,360
considering throwing my hat in the ring

685
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,880
for the open First Assembly seat for

686
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,159
Gary buys a seat so I'm getting to know

687
00:31:23,159 --> 00:31:25,860
the local Town boards my wife used to

688
00:31:25,860 --> 00:31:27,360
serve up in the town board in

689
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,559
jacksonport and this is where real

690
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:33,179
legislation and accountability happens

691
00:31:33,179 --> 00:31:35,460
so I want to thank you for the work that

692
00:31:35,460 --> 00:31:37,500
you do and hopefully if I should be

693
00:31:37,500 --> 00:31:39,840
fortunate to work for you someday that

694
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,399
we will stay in close communication

695
00:31:41,399 --> 00:31:44,580
thank you thank you thank you and you're

696
00:31:44,580 --> 00:31:46,559
welcome to stay all we go till about

697
00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:49,620
midnight I have been to many meetings

698
00:31:49,620 --> 00:31:51,260
till midnight

699
00:31:51,260 --> 00:31:53,539
yes oh yeah that's right

700
00:31:53,539 --> 00:31:56,940
okay anyone else got a comment from some

701
00:31:56,940 --> 00:31:58,919
of our constituents

702
00:31:58,919 --> 00:32:02,340
that time again in the year about snow

703
00:32:02,340 --> 00:32:04,799
plows versus mailboxes

704
00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:07,919
the mailbox loses we've got a few in the

705
00:32:07,919 --> 00:32:10,679
neighborhood Who insist that the snow

706
00:32:10,679 --> 00:32:13,500
plow has actually hit the mailbox and

707
00:32:13,500 --> 00:32:16,279
the mailbox has been put up according to

708
00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:18,299
regulations that the highway department

709
00:32:18,299 --> 00:32:20,220
supplied them

710
00:32:20,220 --> 00:32:22,559
and they're getting a little upset that

711
00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:24,179
they have to keep replacing these

712
00:32:24,179 --> 00:32:26,340
mailboxes

713
00:32:26,340 --> 00:32:28,860
I don't know we're talking to the flow

714
00:32:28,860 --> 00:32:31,500
operators or the Highway Department

715
00:32:31,500 --> 00:32:33,779
administrator is going to do any good

716
00:32:33,779 --> 00:32:36,779
some people already feel that they open

717
00:32:36,779 --> 00:32:38,880
their mouths and now this is retaliation

718
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,440
so

719
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,659
you know they can't put a claim in

720
00:32:42,659 --> 00:32:45,659
though right the press the process is

721
00:32:45,659 --> 00:32:48,840
that you call the highway department

722
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,080
and give your name and address

723
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,940
and what kind of mailbox it was

724
00:32:56,940 --> 00:32:59,159
and what kind of damage is there and

725
00:32:59,159 --> 00:33:00,899
they do have one of their supervisors

726
00:33:00,899 --> 00:33:02,399
come out and take a look

727
00:33:02,399 --> 00:33:04,260
and he does an assessment and then it

728
00:33:04,260 --> 00:33:05,700
comes back to the commissioner for

729
00:33:05,700 --> 00:33:06,659
approval

730
00:33:06,659 --> 00:33:09,000
either on replacement or else it goes to

731
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,520
the committee the highway committee for

732
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,019
the eventual

733
00:33:13,019 --> 00:33:15,659
replacement so if we're just going to

734
00:33:15,659 --> 00:33:18,360
talk about it and not report it that's

735
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:19,919
one thing but

736
00:33:19,919 --> 00:33:21,600
they have been pretty good as far as

737
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:22,919
going back out

738
00:33:22,919 --> 00:33:24,600
and

739
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:29,450
actually putting up new ones

740
00:33:29,460 --> 00:33:34,190
okay

741
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,940
yes sir

742
00:33:35,940 --> 00:33:39,299
they use the criteria

743
00:33:39,299 --> 00:33:41,640
for a state highway to set your

744
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,880
mailboxes now it does that

745
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,080
also applied to Tower Loans

746
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,860
the setting of the mailboxes

747
00:33:52,860 --> 00:33:56,220
are an agreement between the postal

748
00:33:56,220 --> 00:33:57,539
Department

749
00:33:57,539 --> 00:34:00,899
and the transportation whether it be

750
00:34:00,899 --> 00:34:03,840
County State

751
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,779
or I don't know I don't know if we have

752
00:34:06,779 --> 00:34:09,300
any but we would use the same right

753
00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:12,720
there a state highway has wider roads

754
00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:15,359
and wider shoulders

755
00:34:15,359 --> 00:34:18,480
your town highways don't have that

756
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,300
but if they use that when they judge

757
00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:24,240
whether that mailbox is set legal or

758
00:34:24,240 --> 00:34:26,220
illegal right

759
00:34:26,220 --> 00:34:29,460
I would guess that they do yes yeah but

760
00:34:29,460 --> 00:34:31,679
how can that be

761
00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:33,359
the information I've seen I don't

762
00:34:33,359 --> 00:34:36,300
believe they that it's the same

763
00:34:36,300 --> 00:34:40,220
the information I have obtained

764
00:34:40,220 --> 00:34:42,419
specifies the distance from the center

765
00:34:42,419 --> 00:34:45,839
of the road to the mailbox

766
00:34:45,839 --> 00:34:47,940
and it specifies the height of the

767
00:34:47,940 --> 00:34:50,879
mailbox from the road surface to where

768
00:34:50,879 --> 00:34:55,440
the door opens so uh from the center of

769
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,660
the road then you got a distance from

770
00:34:57,660 --> 00:35:01,800
off of the blacktop to the shoulder

771
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,440
I've only seen one regulation on that

772
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,680
and that's for State highways

773
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,300
I I've seen the drawing

774
00:35:11,300 --> 00:35:14,040
do you indicate what what needs to be

775
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,220
and it has to be

776
00:35:16,220 --> 00:35:19,260
recollecting I think 18 inches away from

777
00:35:19,260 --> 00:35:21,240
the edge of the road

778
00:35:21,240 --> 00:35:24,119
the travel portion of that road

779
00:35:24,119 --> 00:35:25,880
42 inches

780
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,940
above the ground

781
00:35:28,940 --> 00:35:31,680
and whatever the other regulation that

782
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,859
has to be something that's going to be

783
00:35:33,859 --> 00:35:35,480
easily

784
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,060
removed or if it's hit by a car

785
00:35:39,060 --> 00:35:42,359
or something else other than Nepal

786
00:35:42,359 --> 00:35:44,880
that it is going to bend or it is going

787
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:45,720
to

788
00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:47,520
break

789
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,680
you cannot construct anything in

790
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,140
concrete and put it out there because

791
00:35:52,140 --> 00:35:54,359
those have already been removed we have

792
00:35:54,359 --> 00:35:55,619
some

793
00:35:55,619 --> 00:35:58,500
in our town that had to be relocated the

794
00:35:58,500 --> 00:36:00,839
very same way so

795
00:36:00,839 --> 00:36:03,480
I can look into it but I don't have an

796
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:08,109
answer for you tonight

797
00:36:08,119 --> 00:36:11,820
correct the county of door plows the

798
00:36:11,820 --> 00:36:15,670
roads for the town

799
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,900
manner I did I can't hear you is it is

800
00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:20,880
this not really more of a county matter

801
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,240
than a town matter at this point

802
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:26,099
well though if we can provide the

803
00:36:26,099 --> 00:36:28,200
information and let them know what the

804
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,119
problem is we can do that

805
00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:32,160
thank you

806
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,349
any other coming

807
00:36:36,359 --> 00:36:38,880
all right I'll check into it I'm on the

808
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,320
highway committee for the county it's

809
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,060
like

810
00:36:42,060 --> 00:36:48,410
to be able to get an answer

811
00:36:48,420 --> 00:36:51,599
okay no other public participation let's

812
00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:55,490
move on to

813
00:36:55,500 --> 00:36:58,680
number seven the approval of the minutes

814
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,440
January 20th

815
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:02,880
make a motion to approve the minutes

816
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,480
January 20th 2014.

817
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,300
second done

818
00:37:09,300 --> 00:37:13,680
any questions comments Corrections

819
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:18,660
we already done all in favor say aye opposed

820
00:37:18,660 --> 00:37:22,370
carried financial report

821
00:37:22,380 --> 00:37:26,099
for January 2014 budget versus actual

822
00:37:26,099 --> 00:37:28,920
account for balances and transactions

823
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,619
do we have any questions there yeah on

824
00:37:31,619 --> 00:37:35,880
page page two budget versus actual

825
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:40,010
near the bottom under Town Park

826
00:37:40,020 --> 00:37:42,540
just want to know what that 2220

827
00:37:42,540 --> 00:37:44,359
represented

828
00:37:44,359 --> 00:37:47,460
and why it was a thousand dollars over

829
00:37:47,460 --> 00:37:52,490
budget

830
00:37:52,500 --> 00:37:56,230
you want me to respond

831
00:37:56,240 --> 00:38:01,079
yes I believe the 20 we prepaid the um

832
00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:03,599
Landscaping application as you know I

833
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:04,980
believe you questioned that last month

834
00:38:04,980 --> 00:38:07,680
so we prepaid that because we could save

835
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,780
a couple hundred dollars

836
00:38:09,780 --> 00:38:12,780
um I believe the total bill was 2 800

837
00:38:12,780 --> 00:38:16,500
some uh I prorated it between the town

838
00:38:16,500 --> 00:38:20,280
hall grounds and the park grounds and

839
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,440
um because we were into a two-year

840
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,320
contract and because we did have a

841
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:26,220
discount

842
00:38:26,220 --> 00:38:28,859
and if need be

843
00:38:28,859 --> 00:38:30,480
um

844
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,880
if the park committee meets and decides

845
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,320
that they want to move some funds from

846
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,119
their Capital

847
00:38:36,119 --> 00:38:38,640
um fun to cover that that's fine that

848
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:45,359
would be up to the park Department then the bill on page

849
00:38:45,359 --> 00:38:48,540
one I think of transactions

850
00:38:48,540 --> 00:38:53,230
that that bill from Spring Green

851
00:38:53,240 --> 00:38:57,200
2776 dollars what does that represent

852
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,359
2200 of it was allocated to the park the

853
00:39:00,359 --> 00:39:02,760
other 500 or whatever was allocated to

854
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,740
the town hall so that's the actual bill

855
00:39:04,740 --> 00:39:07,079
correct okay

856
00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:10,200
now and I just just this point

857
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,400
information

858
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,220
so back you know last meeting

859
00:39:14,220 --> 00:39:18,079
we talked about payment that was made in

860
00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:21,480
the 16th of December

861
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,680
uh the spring green for 27.76

862
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,780
that actually represent services for

863
00:39:29,780 --> 00:39:38,880
2013. no it's 2014 contract so we're paying up to 2015 though on this

864
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,680
contract no

865
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,920
so how do we pay twice for 2014. we

866
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,540
don't

867
00:39:45,540 --> 00:39:49,079
so it's budgeted for 2014. so it may

868
00:39:49,079 --> 00:39:50,880
have been on the December bill payment

869
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:57,119
but it's posted to the 2014 budget

870
00:39:57,119 --> 00:40:01,910
but it was taken out of 2013 funds

871
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,160
it's posted to the 2014 budget put it

872
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,680
back but it's taken out of the 2013 fund

873
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,839
no because it's posted on the budget

874
00:40:09,839 --> 00:40:12,300
right here for 2014. the payment was

875
00:40:12,300 --> 00:40:16,079
made in 2013. correct right

876
00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:20,400
out of 2014 budget correct

877
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:25,500
okay so we have paid for 2014.

878
00:40:25,500 --> 00:40:27,839
for spring green to do the landscape

879
00:40:27,839 --> 00:40:29,760
maintenance

880
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,780
now this 2000 that we received

881
00:40:33,780 --> 00:40:39,480
on one one one of 2014 represents 2014

882
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,400
again

883
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:46,320
or 2015. it's only 20. only 2013 and

884
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,839
2014. so we've already paid that amount

885
00:40:48,839 --> 00:40:52,500
so we paid for 2014. this coming year

886
00:40:52,500 --> 00:40:56,339
correct so why are we seeing a bill from

887
00:40:56,339 --> 00:40:58,200
the same company

888
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:05,210
appearing on here for 2014.

889
00:41:05,220 --> 00:41:09,359
because it's the 2014 contract

890
00:41:09,359 --> 00:41:12,720
we paid we paid for around 2013. I

891
00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:17,520
believe we paid 299 in 2013. and we're

892
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,480
going to pay 2 000.

893
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,660
875 dollars in 2014. for 2015. it's

894
00:41:24,660 --> 00:41:27,900
posted for the 2014 budget they still

895
00:41:27,900 --> 00:41:29,940
can't get this clarifying no I think

896
00:41:29,940 --> 00:41:31,260
what's Happening Here is you're getting

897
00:41:31,260 --> 00:41:34,020
confused between the the accounting of

898
00:41:34,020 --> 00:41:34,800
it

899
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,640
and we use the money she used funds

900
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,740
available to prepay it to take advantage

901
00:41:40,740 --> 00:41:42,720
of the discount but as far as when it

902
00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:45,300
actually goes on the books it shows up

903
00:41:45,300 --> 00:41:47,579
as a 14 transaction that's what it is

904
00:41:47,579 --> 00:41:49,740
same thing with our fire protection I

905
00:41:49,740 --> 00:41:51,660
have to pay the fire protection by

906
00:41:51,660 --> 00:41:55,680
December 31st for the January 2014

907
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,040
quarter so I pay it in December of 2013

908
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,220
but it's posted to 2014 because that's

909
00:42:02,220 --> 00:42:04,320
where the coverage is only a single

910
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,119
payment and what will happen is the

911
00:42:06,119 --> 00:42:08,280
accountants will move it back to the

912
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,099
year that it belongs in as well

913
00:42:11,099 --> 00:42:14,880
so the check that was written on 1216 in

914
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,040
2013.

915
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,740
is actually paying for the bill that was

916
00:42:19,740 --> 00:42:21,980
submitted 1-1

917
00:42:21,980 --> 00:42:26,870
2014. correct okay

918
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,880
and that's a one-year one-year contract

919
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,960
it was a two-year contract 2013 2014 so

920
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,820
we're in the second year of the two-year

921
00:42:35,820 --> 00:42:37,320
contract

922
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,060
okay

923
00:42:39,060 --> 00:42:44,760
I think it's all on accountability and how it comes out in the uh

924
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,640
actual versus the budget another example

925
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,980
would be our room tax we don't receive

926
00:42:49,980 --> 00:42:53,160
our room tax for December of 2013. I

927
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:54,960
just received it the other week

928
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,780
posted to 2013 even though we received

929
00:42:57,780 --> 00:43:04,250
it in 2014. any other questions comments

930
00:43:04,260 --> 00:43:06,480
need a motion then to approve and place

931
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,880
it on file that we approved financial

932
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,720
report January 2014 budget versus actual

933
00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:16,500
assault balances and transactions

934
00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:17,880
you have a second

935
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,829
I'll second that

936
00:43:21,839 --> 00:43:27,230
all in favor say aye aye opposed

937
00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:29,760
World committee reports and committee

938
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,599
minutes do you have any questions on

939
00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:36,540
those that were provided

940
00:43:36,540 --> 00:43:42,349
with your packet

941
00:43:42,359 --> 00:43:44,280
there are none they'll be accepted and

942
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,079
pipes on filed do we have any oral

943
00:43:46,079 --> 00:43:52,329
committee reports

944
00:43:52,339 --> 00:43:55,800
got a quick one from the

945
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,700
Georgia Bay Visitor Center which we are

946
00:43:59,700 --> 00:44:04,970
partner in on the fire and ice

947
00:44:04,980 --> 00:44:09,780
weekend which was February 15 16.

948
00:44:09,780 --> 00:44:12,540
um dealing with the snow carvings and

949
00:44:12,540 --> 00:44:14,280
the ice sculptures

950
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,280
the weekend turned out to be great the

951
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,140
weather was nice we had plenty of good

952
00:44:19,140 --> 00:44:22,619
snow this year for a chance and uh

953
00:44:22,619 --> 00:44:25,440
some of the winners in the advanced

954
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,000
stage first place went to David Milan

955
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:33,000
Malin his skating penguin which was

956
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,640
sponsored by The Brick Alley

957
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,880
the second place went to Walter Ash

958
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,760
hand holding a paintbrush that was

959
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,920
sponsored by the artist Gill

960
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,859
third place went to David Bartels

961
00:44:46,859 --> 00:44:48,180
a bear

962
00:44:48,180 --> 00:44:50,819
sponsored by gwendolines

963
00:44:50,819 --> 00:44:54,000
the intermediates first place Tracy

964
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,300
Robinson and Teresa born

965
00:44:57,300 --> 00:45:00,300
angelfish sponsored by the door Coney

966
00:45:00,300 --> 00:45:03,300
Eye association Associates

967
00:45:03,300 --> 00:45:07,020
second went to Chris Kristen Kelson

968
00:45:07,020 --> 00:45:11,460
child's blocks sponsored by Child's Play

969
00:45:11,460 --> 00:45:14,220
third place went to Cody Leist a

970
00:45:14,220 --> 00:45:17,700
lighthouse sponsored by Monticello

971
00:45:17,700 --> 00:45:19,859
in The Beginner's class first place went

972
00:45:19,859 --> 00:45:24,240
to Elena Pera

973
00:45:24,240 --> 00:45:27,180
at Apple sponsored by dancing bear

974
00:45:27,180 --> 00:45:30,180
second placement to Cape Warren check

975
00:45:30,180 --> 00:45:33,060
and Jackie Simon mask

976
00:45:33,060 --> 00:45:35,700
sponsored by hot commodities

977
00:45:35,700 --> 00:45:37,740
the youth class

978
00:45:37,740 --> 00:45:39,720
first place went to Cape Warren check

979
00:45:39,720 --> 00:45:43,020
and Jackie Simon The Mask sponsored by a

980
00:45:43,020 --> 00:45:44,640
hot tamale

981
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,119
People's Choice went to Max Martin the

982
00:45:48,119 --> 00:45:50,640
Woodpecker and that was sponsored by

983
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,980
Associated Bank

984
00:45:52,980 --> 00:45:55,560
to thank everybody that participated in

985
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:56,640
the weekend

986
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,740
and we look forward to

987
00:45:58,740 --> 00:46:00,240
the next

988
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:03,599
doings which will be the St Patrick's

989
00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:08,450
Day Parade

990
00:46:08,460 --> 00:46:10,260
okay do we have any other oral Community

991
00:46:10,260 --> 00:46:14,290
reports

992
00:46:14,300 --> 00:46:16,920
hearing none license and permits that

993
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:24,829
were issued

994
00:46:24,839 --> 00:46:42,770
or construction is down to zero

995
00:46:42,780 --> 00:46:45,599
pending business the status discussion

996
00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:47,640
and action potential rezoning and the

997
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,680
core areas

998
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:54,349
if you'll notice that

999
00:46:54,359 --> 00:46:56,460
we have two pending and then we have a

1000
00:46:56,460 --> 00:46:59,569
whole bunch of new business

1001
00:46:59,579 --> 00:47:02,160
our chairman of our planned commission

1002
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,560
is going to run the meeting for the next

1003
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,970
hour and a half

1004
00:47:07,980 --> 00:47:09,720
sorry

1005
00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:12,300
um the potential rezoning of the core

1006
00:47:12,300 --> 00:47:14,460
areas it's

1007
00:47:14,460 --> 00:47:17,339
we had a meeting about 20

1008
00:47:17,339 --> 00:47:20,040
21st of

1009
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,700
no February and we came up with that we

1010
00:47:23,700 --> 00:47:25,020
were going to place

1011
00:47:25,020 --> 00:47:28,800
the rezoning on hold for now but we're

1012
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,680
going to use it as a tool

1013
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,440
for future

1014
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:41,030
requests and we're also working on a

1015
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,560
press release that will come out so that

1016
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,920
we can notify everybody of the

1017
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,099
of what is actually going on and if you

1018
00:47:50,099 --> 00:47:54,109
have your in your packet there was a

1019
00:47:54,119 --> 00:47:58,140
colorful thing that green was good and

1020
00:47:58,140 --> 00:48:00,900
red and yellow were iffy there wasn't a

1021
00:48:00,900 --> 00:48:01,859
whole lot of

1022
00:48:01,859 --> 00:48:05,040
Green in there so the overall response

1023
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:09,060
was to do nothing at this time

1024
00:48:09,060 --> 00:48:10,859
we did have some support though we did

1025
00:48:10,859 --> 00:48:13,740
have some support very few but some

1026
00:48:13,740 --> 00:48:16,200
support great

1027
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,900
is this colorful

1028
00:48:18,900 --> 00:48:24,359
survey report and the maps available

1029
00:48:24,359 --> 00:48:27,540
here in our office or sure I got how

1030
00:48:27,540 --> 00:48:29,280
many copies you want at the county or

1031
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,240
where

1032
00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:31,940
um

1033
00:48:31,940 --> 00:48:34,319
anybody wanting to have them can pick

1034
00:48:34,319 --> 00:48:36,300
them up

1035
00:48:36,300 --> 00:48:39,119
yes are they on our website or are they

1036
00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:41,099
on the counties website they are on door

1037
00:48:41,099 --> 00:48:44,099
the initial presentation is on the door

1038
00:48:44,099 --> 00:48:46,920
County Planning and Zoning website and I

1039
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,319
also have a link from the town website

1040
00:48:49,319 --> 00:48:51,960
so I guess my question would be will

1041
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,579
this be placed on the Planning and

1042
00:48:53,579 --> 00:48:56,040
Zoning website and then we can place it

1043
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:57,720
on ours as well

1044
00:48:57,720 --> 00:49:09,109
is

1045
00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:12,000
I mean the map certainly would be

1046
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,460
appropriate I mean yeah designate the

1047
00:49:14,460 --> 00:49:17,579
areas and people but I'm not sure we

1048
00:49:17,579 --> 00:49:22,440
want to put the uh the individual names Property Owners well I

1049
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:23,819
think that's all public record anyway

1050
00:49:23,819 --> 00:49:26,099
yeah it should be

1051
00:49:26,099 --> 00:49:28,859
yeah I mean we thought we talked about

1052
00:49:28,859 --> 00:49:29,940
um

1053
00:49:29,940 --> 00:49:32,579
sending out letters from each and every

1054
00:49:32,579 --> 00:49:34,680
one of these people okay

1055
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,300
thank you

1056
00:49:36,300 --> 00:49:38,400
that's quite an undertaking of mailing

1057
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,500
though

1058
00:49:40,500 --> 00:49:42,720
again

1059
00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:45,720
okay so there are no activity on behalf

1060
00:49:45,720 --> 00:49:47,400
of this board that we have to do not

1061
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:48,960
this time we're just going to use it as

1062
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,660
a recommending than it just be placed on

1063
00:49:51,660 --> 00:49:55,370
hold at least on hold yes

1064
00:49:55,380 --> 00:49:59,690
Linda you got that recorded

1065
00:49:59,700 --> 00:50:03,230
yes

1066
00:50:03,240 --> 00:50:05,640
okay comprehensive plan annual review

1067
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,319
the plan commission comments

1068
00:50:07,319 --> 00:50:09,480
recommendations

1069
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:14,099
um we have two of them uh the town board

1070
00:50:14,099 --> 00:50:15,420
um should adjust the core area

1071
00:50:15,420 --> 00:50:18,240
boundaries to line up with the lot lines

1072
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:22,079
is the first one a lot of the

1073
00:50:22,079 --> 00:50:24,240
when the red goes

1074
00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:26,640
the different colors go around it

1075
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,440
doesn't match up with the property lines

1076
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,780
so we were going to just Square it off

1077
00:50:30,780 --> 00:50:32,760
to a property line so it's more of a

1078
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,380
distinct line

1079
00:50:34,380 --> 00:50:36,240
there's something we do or the county

1080
00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:39,780
does or the county does we recommend it

1081
00:50:39,780 --> 00:50:41,520
to them

1082
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,280
so and then um

1083
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:45,960
another one was for the comprehensive

1084
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,059
plan we're gonna

1085
00:50:48,059 --> 00:50:50,940
work on a couple of pages to act as our

1086
00:50:50,940 --> 00:50:52,319
update

1087
00:50:52,319 --> 00:50:55,200
for the existing comprehensive plan so

1088
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:56,640
that we don't have to

1089
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,400
reinvent the whole thing so

1090
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,079
okay

1091
00:51:01,079 --> 00:51:03,420
which makes a lot of sense it makes a

1092
00:51:03,420 --> 00:51:06,059
lot of sense plus again we're going to

1093
00:51:06,059 --> 00:51:09,059
do something in regards to the latest

1094
00:51:09,059 --> 00:51:11,880
census information I think

1095
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,700
yeah the 2010 census we're going to have

1096
00:51:14,700 --> 00:51:16,680
a page to link

1097
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,380
add a page there to link so that they

1098
00:51:19,380 --> 00:51:21,960
know how to get through our website or

1099
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:23,760
through the County's website to the

1100
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:30,770
census the County's website counties

1101
00:51:30,780 --> 00:51:34,020
okay if you got done with that one let's

1102
00:51:34,020 --> 00:51:36,240
go in their new business

1103
00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:41,390
blank commission report recommendation

1104
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,160
future land use

1105
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,160
update on the current uh our future land

1106
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,270
use

1107
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,760
okay recommend that existing land use

1108
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,420
maps reflect all conditional use permits

1109
00:51:57,420 --> 00:52:00,660
that were approved since 2008

1110
00:52:00,660 --> 00:52:03,660
and on the committee minutes at the very

1111
00:52:03,660 --> 00:52:06,180
last page there was a list that we were

1112
00:52:06,180 --> 00:52:07,559
going to give them

1113
00:52:07,559 --> 00:52:10,140
thank you well it wasn't it was right at

1114
00:52:10,140 --> 00:52:13,069
the end so

1115
00:52:13,079 --> 00:52:14,720
and

1116
00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:16,760
then we should

1117
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,819
change future existing land use maps

1118
00:52:20,819 --> 00:52:24,240
to include the ex existing commercial

1119
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:27,540
zoned area for future development

1120
00:52:27,540 --> 00:52:28,859
some of the

1121
00:52:28,859 --> 00:52:31,740
commercial development isn't quite right

1122
00:52:31,740 --> 00:52:33,839
on some of the maps so we got to get

1123
00:52:33,839 --> 00:52:37,970
that straightened out

1124
00:52:37,980 --> 00:52:48,290
you're going to keep that on your agenda

1125
00:52:48,300 --> 00:52:53,270
yes

1126
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,859
one supervisor could I ask a question

1127
00:52:55,859 --> 00:52:57,240
yes

1128
00:52:57,240 --> 00:52:59,460
um as far as reporting this to the

1129
00:52:59,460 --> 00:53:02,220
county is there anything that

1130
00:53:02,220 --> 00:53:04,200
the clerk would need to report to the

1131
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:05,940
county at this time regarding future

1132
00:53:05,940 --> 00:53:08,339
land use

1133
00:53:08,339 --> 00:53:09,660
um

1134
00:53:09,660 --> 00:53:11,940
well that we we were going to give them

1135
00:53:11,940 --> 00:53:14,160
a copy of our agenda

1136
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,040
but you know we need the list to give

1137
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,619
them the list and those two items one

1138
00:53:19,619 --> 00:53:22,549
was the

1139
00:53:22,559 --> 00:53:24,540
conditional use permits that we wanted

1140
00:53:24,540 --> 00:53:26,660
on there and then the other one was

1141
00:53:26,660 --> 00:53:29,640
changing the future existing land use

1142
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,140
map

1143
00:53:31,140 --> 00:53:33,660
with and have the commercial existing

1144
00:53:33,660 --> 00:53:35,040
commercial

1145
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:42,970
marked correctly okay

1146
00:53:42,980 --> 00:53:46,500
which is in her agendas are in our

1147
00:53:46,500 --> 00:53:49,619
minutes in the minutes

1148
00:53:49,619 --> 00:53:52,319
okay act 170 the next one on your list

1149
00:53:52,319 --> 00:53:55,740
there or not yep could you just tell us

1150
00:53:55,740 --> 00:53:59,900
what what it's all about well yeah

1151
00:53:59,900 --> 00:54:03,359
I mean it's a guide

1152
00:54:03,359 --> 00:54:04,740
so that

1153
00:54:04,740 --> 00:54:07,859
in zoning you can

1154
00:54:07,859 --> 00:54:09,780
it's a guide for non-conforming

1155
00:54:09,780 --> 00:54:13,079
structures and substandard lots in

1156
00:54:13,079 --> 00:54:16,309
Shoreland areas

1157
00:54:16,319 --> 00:54:20,220
so it's it's like a elaborate point

1158
00:54:20,220 --> 00:54:24,540
system that you can get points for doing

1159
00:54:24,540 --> 00:54:28,910
this and points for doing that

1160
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:32,420
I don't know it's self-ex kind of

1161
00:54:32,420 --> 00:54:35,640
self-explanatory but it's confusing too

1162
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,260
so

1163
00:54:37,260 --> 00:54:40,680
was this a presentation to your

1164
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,420
commission or what

1165
00:54:42,420 --> 00:54:44,339
no I think that was it it was the public

1166
00:54:44,339 --> 00:54:48,300
educational session that the Planning

1167
00:54:48,300 --> 00:54:51,059
and Zoning sponsored I attended Victoria

1168
00:54:51,059 --> 00:54:55,020
attended in Daryl varnberg attended so

1169
00:54:55,020 --> 00:54:57,359
these were part of the handouts

1170
00:54:57,359 --> 00:55:02,569
very good

1171
00:55:02,579 --> 00:55:04,980
so was there a lot of change to the

1172
00:55:04,980 --> 00:55:07,680
Shoreland zoning regulations or just a

1173
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,059
reaffirm

1174
00:55:09,059 --> 00:55:12,720
the DNR has enacted this

1175
00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:15,240
um I believe correct the DNR has enacted

1176
00:55:15,240 --> 00:55:16,319
it

1177
00:55:16,319 --> 00:55:19,680
um it does reverse some of the um the

1178
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,800
old regulations it actually lightens up

1179
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,599
I think

1180
00:55:24,599 --> 00:55:27,660
um the Shoreland zoning a little bit and

1181
00:55:27,660 --> 00:55:31,319
as supervisor stavanus mentioned

1182
00:55:31,319 --> 00:55:33,839
um a homeowner say you would want to

1183
00:55:33,839 --> 00:55:36,059
expand an existing structure whatever

1184
00:55:36,059 --> 00:55:38,640
you as supervisor stamina said you can

1185
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,640
gain these extra points by maybe

1186
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,700
screening or voluntarily setting it back

1187
00:55:44,700 --> 00:55:46,819
further from the high water mark

1188
00:55:46,819 --> 00:55:51,059
the mitigation manual kind of addresses

1189
00:55:51,059 --> 00:55:53,280
that as well and the Door County

1190
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:57,000
Corporation Council is in the process of

1191
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,599
doing the proposed ordinance Zone to

1192
00:56:00,599 --> 00:56:02,819
affect them I see on page five you have

1193
00:56:02,819 --> 00:56:06,000
some new language for the NR 1 to 15 and

1194
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,780
X1 and 70. that would be for the

1195
00:56:09,780 --> 00:56:16,609
non-conforming uses structure and lots

1196
00:56:16,619 --> 00:56:18,839
does that mean that it's a big change or

1197
00:56:18,839 --> 00:56:21,530
not

1198
00:56:21,540 --> 00:56:26,400
they change the Act and the 115 change

1199
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:30,020
the setback rule for non-conforming

1200
00:56:30,020 --> 00:56:33,240
structures it used to be 75 feet from

1201
00:56:33,240 --> 00:56:35,220
the high water mark if your structure

1202
00:56:35,220 --> 00:56:37,440
was within that area you couldn't make

1203
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,079
any change to that structure at all and

1204
00:56:40,079 --> 00:56:42,059
now it's 35 feet

1205
00:56:42,059 --> 00:56:44,760
I see that now so it's a it's a big

1206
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,880
advantage to the owner of an existing

1207
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:52,319
structure if they want to make an update

1208
00:56:52,319 --> 00:56:54,720
or a change to that a modification there

1209
00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:56,480
they have more

1210
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,160
opportunity

1211
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:02,690
thank you

1212
00:57:02,700 --> 00:57:04,980
okay is there any other questions on the

1213
00:57:04,980 --> 00:57:07,559
information provided

1214
00:57:07,559 --> 00:57:09,660
just the one that came up a little while

1215
00:57:09,660 --> 00:57:11,760
back where they also talked about uh

1216
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,559
impervious surfaces

1217
00:57:13,559 --> 00:57:16,440
I think it's part of this part of the

1218
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,240
mitigation and hope that if you increase

1219
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,540
the amount of impervious surfaces they

1220
00:57:21,540 --> 00:57:24,480
have a table where you can trade off and

1221
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,040
say well you've made more impervious

1222
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:27,839
year put more screening there we'll give

1223
00:57:27,839 --> 00:57:29,819
you these points take away those so

1224
00:57:29,819 --> 00:57:33,710
that's all part of this thanks

1225
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,780
okay petition for the Door County zoning

1226
00:57:36,780 --> 00:57:40,440
Texas Amendment temporary uses yeah

1227
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,720
um I think we've went over this about

1228
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,880
four times now but

1229
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,079
um we as the Planning Commission

1230
00:57:48,079 --> 00:57:51,240
recommended no change to be made for the

1231
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:52,819
current number of days

1232
00:57:52,819 --> 00:57:55,680
allowed in a calendar year and the

1233
00:57:55,680 --> 00:58:00,440
current number is 10. so you can have

1234
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,579
or something

1235
00:58:02,579 --> 00:58:05,339
huh you were recommending six or

1236
00:58:05,339 --> 00:58:07,260
something yeah we were but we changed

1237
00:58:07,260 --> 00:58:11,040
that to Nowhere no okay so you can have

1238
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,500
ten you can have all 10 and in a row or

1239
00:58:13,500 --> 00:58:16,260
you can have one here one there and

1240
00:58:16,260 --> 00:58:26,520
be done with it so that's still coming up to uh

1241
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,940
did you refund or not or we will respond

1242
00:58:29,940 --> 00:58:31,040
to see

1243
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:35,160
it's in our minutes so they would

1244
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:43,740
will we took what we recommended the stated

1245
00:58:43,740 --> 00:58:46,400
temporary uses that were

1246
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,079
presented to the RPC board didn't we

1247
00:58:49,079 --> 00:58:53,750
yeah

1248
00:58:53,760 --> 00:59:00,240
we recommended no change right yeah so we're going along with their

1249
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:04,069
recommendations correct

1250
00:59:04,079 --> 00:59:06,839
okay letter D that is the Steve Robinson

1251
00:59:06,839 --> 00:59:09,119
discussion on the potential rezoning of

1252
00:59:09,119 --> 00:59:10,680
parcels

1253
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:15,660
at 4001 State Highway 42-57.

1254
00:59:15,660 --> 00:59:19,549
Steve is present you wanna

1255
00:59:19,559 --> 00:59:21,720
come forward or you want to do it from

1256
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:22,819
there

1257
00:59:22,819 --> 00:59:27,530
you guys

1258
00:59:27,540 --> 00:59:30,119
I brought some maps with me so when I

1259
00:59:30,119 --> 00:59:31,559
come forward that's okay all right I'm

1260
00:59:31,559 --> 00:59:45,370
very good

1261
00:59:45,380 --> 00:59:49,079
like we try to Resort 44A

1262
00:59:49,079 --> 00:59:52,619
on a land use on

1263
00:59:52,619 --> 00:59:56,160
the web map that I copied off I have a

1264
00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:00,660
44A and 40 43 a electric

1265
01:00:00,660 --> 01:00:05,520
is on 44 8 the commercial on your

1266
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,579
future land use map of the Thomas of

1267
01:00:08,579 --> 01:00:12,289
basketball

1268
01:00:12,299 --> 01:00:17,349
on 44A showing approximately

1269
01:00:17,359 --> 01:00:19,980
15.6 papers

1270
01:00:19,980 --> 01:00:25,079
and 44A is 18.92 Acres getting back to

1271
01:00:25,079 --> 01:00:27,780
what John said before just a minute ago

1272
01:00:27,780 --> 01:00:30,480
he'd like to square this section off and

1273
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,180
I think that'd be probably a good idea

1274
01:00:33,180 --> 01:00:37,559
of the 18.92 Acres I like to rezone

1275
01:00:37,559 --> 01:00:42,000
there's 3.66 Acres of unusual setback

1276
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,520
lines from the state highway so I just

1277
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:45,780
want to let's take that into

1278
01:00:45,780 --> 01:00:55,670
consideration also

1279
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,799
this is where your your former building

1280
01:00:58,799 --> 01:01:00,299
well if you want to listen to this is

1281
01:01:00,299 --> 01:01:02,780
where the elements yes that is correct

1282
01:01:02,780 --> 01:01:08,040
and I own 44 8 and 43a

1283
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:16,630
thank you

1284
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:20,099
on the one map you've got 450 feet from

1285
01:01:20,099 --> 01:01:22,740
the highway Mark and the line that's

1286
01:01:22,740 --> 01:01:25,140
fine that's what I like that's what

1287
01:01:25,140 --> 01:01:28,140
that's okay yeah I went down to the Door

1288
01:01:28,140 --> 01:01:30,599
County Planning department and they did

1289
01:01:30,599 --> 01:01:31,859
a

1290
01:01:31,859 --> 01:01:34,260
um they scaled it out and I can't tell

1291
01:01:34,260 --> 01:01:37,440
you how they did it but they figured it

1292
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,799
was 450 feet from the center of the road

1293
01:01:40,799 --> 01:01:43,020
and

1294
01:01:43,020 --> 01:01:45,299
um it goes back to when we did the

1295
01:01:45,299 --> 01:01:47,160
comprehensive plant and we did the

1296
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,460
coloring we had the Crayons where every

1297
01:01:50,460 --> 01:01:54,480
person that wanted the red marking to go

1298
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,099
commercial they drew a line so that's

1299
01:01:56,099 --> 01:01:58,319
how many people were there so they so

1300
01:01:58,319 --> 01:02:02,819
that's where they got the 450 feet yeah and I know dick said last week at

1301
01:02:02,819 --> 01:02:05,579
the plan before meeting that it might be

1302
01:02:05,579 --> 01:02:07,440
wise to the straighten you know it's

1303
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,359
Square it off or else

1304
01:02:09,359 --> 01:02:13,319
no yeah that that measurement I think is

1305
01:02:13,319 --> 01:02:15,059
kind of an arbitrary I mean they

1306
01:02:15,059 --> 01:02:17,579
obviously from

1307
01:02:17,579 --> 01:02:21,000
they interpreted that from those the

1308
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,700
maps we had back during that session so

1309
01:02:23,700 --> 01:02:25,740
we worked very hard on and we worked

1310
01:02:25,740 --> 01:02:27,480
very hard on

1311
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,220
um

1312
01:02:29,220 --> 01:02:34,980
in my mind uh it represents you know not

1313
01:02:34,980 --> 01:02:38,040
exactly 450 feet because when those Maps

1314
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,079
were filled in we didn't take that into

1315
01:02:40,079 --> 01:02:42,839
consideration the exact

1316
01:02:42,839 --> 01:02:46,260
measurement from the highway it was

1317
01:02:46,260 --> 01:02:48,299
for me it's more of an arbitrary thing

1318
01:02:48,299 --> 01:02:50,760
okay then if you want to do this whole

1319
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:54,059
lot the next lot over is 80 80 acres you

1320
01:02:54,059 --> 01:02:56,339
want to do that whole one too

1321
01:02:56,339 --> 01:02:58,440
I don't know what's in the uh I'm

1322
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,200
totally confused well no you gotta set

1323
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,660
some place well I I guess so but I mean

1324
01:03:03,660 --> 01:03:06,900
we're if we just deal with 44A the the

1325
01:03:06,900 --> 01:03:08,819
parcel that he's talking about okay

1326
01:03:08,819 --> 01:03:13,619
correct uh whether it's 450 feet or 500

1327
01:03:13,619 --> 01:03:16,799
feet or 600 feet I would rather consider

1328
01:03:16,799 --> 01:03:20,520
the whole parcel than just the 454

1329
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,799
Corridor that have been established by

1330
01:03:22,799 --> 01:03:25,740
the planning department from our mapping

1331
01:03:25,740 --> 01:03:27,420
session

1332
01:03:27,420 --> 01:03:29,460
but also we wanted to keep the rural

1333
01:03:29,460 --> 01:03:32,349
character too

1334
01:03:32,359 --> 01:03:36,960
well I mean can I sure go ahead

1335
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:42,049
and

1336
01:03:42,059 --> 01:03:43,980
um I just want to grab something that's

1337
01:03:43,980 --> 01:03:46,500
okay here

1338
01:03:46,500 --> 01:04:03,010
foreign

1339
01:04:03,020 --> 01:04:05,579
comprehensive plan that kind of

1340
01:04:05,579 --> 01:04:07,619
contradicts it as far as I'm concerned

1341
01:04:07,619 --> 01:04:11,220
he says guy and they're going to direct

1342
01:04:11,220 --> 01:04:12,839
the screening

1343
01:04:12,839 --> 01:04:14,819
and it did Issue of use permit so what I

1344
01:04:14,819 --> 01:04:17,160
can do there you know what I cannot do

1345
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:18,839
there

1346
01:04:18,839 --> 01:04:21,299
um I'll pass this along also anybody

1347
01:04:21,299 --> 01:04:23,000
would like to read this what it says

1348
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,319
regulate new development to fit the

1349
01:04:25,319 --> 01:04:27,960
country counties and Community by

1350
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,000
Maxwell as a visual impact

1351
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,099
guide Highway Corridor development and

1352
01:04:32,099 --> 01:04:34,079
approved quarter of treatment so as

1353
01:04:34,079 --> 01:04:35,880
maximum cleanse of the community and

1354
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:37,319
preserve the conscious

1355
01:04:37,319 --> 01:04:39,960
scenery work Reserve over green space

1356
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,119
between Community along Highway any

1357
01:04:42,119 --> 01:04:43,859
future Corey development should be well

1358
01:04:43,859 --> 01:04:45,960
screened

1359
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:49,250
well

1360
01:04:49,260 --> 01:04:51,540
sir any future quarter developers be

1361
01:04:51,540 --> 01:04:53,460
well screened and designed in reviewing

1362
01:04:53,460 --> 01:04:55,319
conditional use permits and resuming

1363
01:04:55,319 --> 01:04:57,240
consider High recorder appearance

1364
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,180
encourage country rights signage because

1365
01:05:00,180 --> 01:05:02,990
that ends there

1366
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,520
um would you like to look at this but it

1367
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,880
says that really when you go to the RPC

1368
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:10,920
for a permit

1369
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:14,160
or you you go to the county for a permit

1370
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:17,040
you have regularizations but you can do

1371
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,280
and what screening is taking effect so

1372
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,020
they really set the guidelines of

1373
01:05:22,020 --> 01:05:22,980
everything

1374
01:05:22,980 --> 01:05:28,140
as far as screening as far as setbacks

1375
01:05:28,140 --> 01:05:28,680
um

1376
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,380
it's so there's going to be some

1377
01:05:31,380 --> 01:05:33,720
guidelines that are going to be

1378
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:38,339
sent by them yeah if you're granted a

1379
01:05:38,339 --> 01:05:44,299
commercial

1380
01:05:44,299 --> 01:05:47,540
re-resoding for that person

1381
01:05:47,540 --> 01:05:50,339
once it's once it's rezoned commercial

1382
01:05:50,339 --> 01:05:52,859
then the regulations within that

1383
01:05:52,859 --> 01:05:55,559
classification you have to meet that is

1384
01:05:55,559 --> 01:05:56,760
correct

1385
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:58,200
um

1386
01:05:58,200 --> 01:05:59,940
I mean that that for me that's really

1387
01:05:59,940 --> 01:06:01,319
the question here

1388
01:06:01,319 --> 01:06:03,020
is whether or not

1389
01:06:03,020 --> 01:06:05,520
that parcel land okay you're talking

1390
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,640
about two Parcels here 44A

1391
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,040
why don't you give us an idea of what it

1392
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,040
is where it is I'm lost it but I think I

1393
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:17,520
figured it out but what's your 44A is

1394
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,940
what 44 8 is the worst existence right

1395
01:06:20,940 --> 01:06:23,040
across from Grandma Tommy's

1396
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,380
okay the White House and the white barn

1397
01:06:25,380 --> 01:06:27,599
right away from Grandma Tommy sits at

1398
01:06:27,599 --> 01:06:30,900
the southern Edge Maybe

1399
01:06:30,900 --> 01:06:33,180
200 feet yes it's correct to the

1400
01:06:33,180 --> 01:06:35,819
boundary and then the rest to all the

1401
01:06:35,819 --> 01:06:38,220
way up to

1402
01:06:38,220 --> 01:06:38,819
um

1403
01:06:38,819 --> 01:06:40,799
driveway that goes into Grandma Tommy's

1404
01:06:40,799 --> 01:06:42,539
between the realtor's office almost

1405
01:06:42,539 --> 01:06:44,640
right it might be the other boundary it

1406
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:48,000
goes pretty close if you're familiar

1407
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:51,200
um yes real close it's it's basically

1408
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,700
there's a four Plex of Robert Gayton

1409
01:06:53,700 --> 01:06:56,099
owns and my mother's uses alone the

1410
01:06:56,099 --> 01:06:57,660
property line is right across from there

1411
01:06:57,660 --> 01:06:58,859
okay

1412
01:06:58,859 --> 01:07:02,940
but I want 43a and 44A I'm asking me

1413
01:07:02,940 --> 01:07:06,480
Zone 44A so but what the line represents

1414
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,819
is what we what I put in at our meeting

1415
01:07:08,819 --> 01:07:12,359
is 450 feet coming off from our Maps

1416
01:07:12,359 --> 01:07:15,960
over there right is what with the

1417
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:17,160
session

1418
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,260
how wide

1419
01:07:19,260 --> 01:07:21,720
the whole wide a commercial drill strip

1420
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:24,740
you're going to allow or suggest versus

1421
01:07:24,740 --> 01:07:29,119
rezoning the entire parcel correct

1422
01:07:29,119 --> 01:07:32,579
this though the parcel that would be

1423
01:07:32,579 --> 01:07:35,400
left after that for 150 feet is very

1424
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:39,720
minimal yeah and what you really did is

1425
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:41,460
you landlocked it between that

1426
01:07:41,460 --> 01:07:42,480
commercial

1427
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:46,260
and on the other side we have a wetland

1428
01:07:46,260 --> 01:07:48,720
it's going down it's still high ground

1429
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:53,940
there but 43. it makes sense to allow

1430
01:07:53,940 --> 01:07:57,240
that parcel in its entirety to be

1431
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,520
commercial rather than to just chop off

1432
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:02,339
the 450 feet of Frontage and it's some

1433
01:08:02,339 --> 01:08:04,200
of the highest property on that Corridor

1434
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:05,220
area

1435
01:08:05,220 --> 01:08:08,880
where I'm where that is great

1436
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:14,109
but if you want to stay with them

1437
01:08:14,119 --> 01:08:15,960
if you want to stay within the

1438
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:17,460
comprehensive plan you've got this

1439
01:08:17,460 --> 01:08:19,080
little green triangle right here that

1440
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:20,819
would be left and you could also just

1441
01:08:20,819 --> 01:08:26,160
attach that to 44 B 43 43 whatever the

1442
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:27,679
number is

1443
01:08:27,679 --> 01:08:29,880
you stop worrying about this little

1444
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:31,440
corner yeah I would take off that other

1445
01:08:31,440 --> 01:08:33,239
Corner then for it doesn't improve on

1446
01:08:33,239 --> 01:08:36,660
intrude on 43 Haven okay

1447
01:08:36,660 --> 01:08:40,500
you know and it's only what it is you're

1448
01:08:40,500 --> 01:08:42,839
losing 3.6 acres in the setbacks from

1449
01:08:42,839 --> 01:08:45,239
the state highway

1450
01:08:45,239 --> 01:08:48,799
um right now 44A is 18.92 Acres

1451
01:08:48,799 --> 01:08:53,339
and what it shows on the smart growth

1452
01:08:53,339 --> 01:08:54,960
plan of Thomas vest which you measured

1453
01:08:54,960 --> 01:09:07,930
off is 15.68 68 Acres

1454
01:09:07,940 --> 01:09:10,620
and this piece here on this map John

1455
01:09:10,620 --> 01:09:13,319
that's grandma Tommy's right now

1456
01:09:13,319 --> 01:09:16,259
right no no

1457
01:09:16,259 --> 01:09:19,150
um

1458
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,480
I know what I'm talking about I got you

1459
01:09:21,480 --> 01:09:22,920
sorry

1460
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:24,839
because that'd be the mill right the

1461
01:09:24,839 --> 01:09:26,880
circle for the curb looking down on the

1462
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:29,940
corner okay you might I guess you know

1463
01:09:29,940 --> 01:09:31,799
where do you want to stop because I

1464
01:09:31,799 --> 01:09:35,040
guess my point is if it's 450 feet wide

1465
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,679
then that I'm pretty sure that next

1466
01:09:37,679 --> 01:09:40,560
adjacent property there

1467
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,239
you know that's you don't want it to go

1468
01:09:42,239 --> 01:09:44,880
all the way with the 80 acre field there

1469
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,219
it's a huge field so do you want to just

1470
01:09:47,219 --> 01:09:50,219
it's on that commercial too right away

1471
01:09:50,219 --> 01:09:52,020
there's nobody applying to have that

1472
01:09:52,020 --> 01:09:54,600
result I mean what's what's being

1473
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,640
questioned right now is the track the

1474
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,580
land that Steve is presenting to us to

1475
01:09:59,580 --> 01:10:01,340
be correct

1476
01:10:01,340 --> 01:10:04,320
the parcel next to it is a totally

1477
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:05,820
different story I mean it's still

1478
01:10:05,820 --> 01:10:08,760
general Egg so I mean what those people

1479
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,040
just would want to do they'd have to go

1480
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:13,140
through the same process that that Steve

1481
01:10:13,140 --> 01:10:15,900
would go through to get it resolved so

1482
01:10:15,900 --> 01:10:19,020
we're not setting a precedent here by by

1483
01:10:19,020 --> 01:10:22,140
granting Steve I mean if if in fact

1484
01:10:22,140 --> 01:10:25,140
Steve was granted rezoning commercial

1485
01:10:25,140 --> 01:10:27,120
that doesn't set a precedent for a next

1486
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,280
partial land I don't have any problem

1487
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,440
with changing that zoning on that strip

1488
01:10:31,440 --> 01:10:33,659
but I don't think I'd want it to go all

1489
01:10:33,659 --> 01:10:36,179
the way back for that whole parcel well

1490
01:10:36,179 --> 01:10:39,420
I mean I I would just we have a they

1491
01:10:39,420 --> 01:10:41,460
have a commercial or excuse me you have

1492
01:10:41,460 --> 01:10:43,739
a plan that says that you should have

1493
01:10:43,739 --> 01:10:46,320
that strip and you try to adhere to it

1494
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,659
otherwise the next one comes along and

1495
01:10:48,659 --> 01:10:51,120
wants to do 80 acres

1496
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,159
there would be an individual I mean that

1497
01:10:53,159 --> 01:10:54,840
would be another case I understand that

1498
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:56,400
I'm just saying but now you've got a

1499
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:57,900
situation where the next one comes on I

1500
01:10:57,900 --> 01:10:59,280
said well you zoned this whole parcel

1501
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:00,900
why not you know your plan says you

1502
01:11:00,900 --> 01:11:03,540
should do less than that

1503
01:11:03,540 --> 01:11:05,159
and certainly there's a lot of room in

1504
01:11:05,159 --> 01:11:08,280
450 feet so right now when you are

1505
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,280
requesting the whole parcel right 44A I

1506
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,100
am requesting the whole parcel which is

1507
01:11:13,100 --> 01:11:16,260
18.92 Acres I will

1508
01:11:16,260 --> 01:11:18,060
take the recommendation the board gives

1509
01:11:18,060 --> 01:11:22,320
me if they want to go with 15.9 uh 15.6

1510
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:23,659
Acres

1511
01:11:23,659 --> 01:11:26,880
I just want to remind you there's no

1512
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,780
matter what the street point

1513
01:11:29,780 --> 01:11:32,400
3.6866 Acres coming off the top because

1514
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:34,260
it's setbacks from the highway right so

1515
01:11:34,260 --> 01:11:35,520
either I have

1516
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:37,800
15 Acres or I have 12 acres of

1517
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:39,600
commercial and I and I agree with Chuck

1518
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,920
I mean why why segregate off that

1519
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:49,679
1.3 Acres or whatever for the sake of the you know not going beyond the 450

1520
01:11:49,679 --> 01:11:52,980
feet we've already got 450 feet of

1521
01:11:52,980 --> 01:11:54,360
exposure

1522
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,840
of commercial property what behind it is

1523
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,860
not going to be a significant uh

1524
01:12:00,860 --> 01:12:04,860
I think we all agree we all agree that

1525
01:12:04,860 --> 01:12:12,300
it shouldn't this be a drawn line across a parcel

1526
01:12:12,300 --> 01:12:15,239
to be in compliance with reports

1527
01:12:15,239 --> 01:12:18,480
that doesn't make any sense all right

1528
01:12:18,480 --> 01:12:20,280
the biggest problem that we do have is

1529
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:22,739
here for discussion only

1530
01:12:22,739 --> 01:12:26,239
could not come up with any uh

1531
01:12:26,239 --> 01:12:28,920
recommendation I think Steve wanted to

1532
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:30,719
bring it to us

1533
01:12:30,719 --> 01:12:32,699
so that we didn't hear about it from

1534
01:12:32,699 --> 01:12:34,440
someone else and that

1535
01:12:34,440 --> 01:12:39,060
jaundice already Was Fear plan correct

1536
01:12:39,060 --> 01:12:41,340
was it an item for discussion or just

1537
01:12:41,340 --> 01:12:44,340
for review it was an item for discussion

1538
01:12:44,340 --> 01:12:46,500
Okay so

1539
01:12:46,500 --> 01:12:49,199
once you make application

1540
01:12:49,199 --> 01:12:51,360
to the county

1541
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:53,760
then it comes to us and we give it to

1542
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:54,960
our plan

1543
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,900
commission for recommendation

1544
01:12:57,900 --> 01:13:01,320
to go backwards normally it's a 28 day

1545
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:04,199
notification but

1546
01:13:04,199 --> 01:13:05,820
I think what you're hearing tonight is

1547
01:13:05,820 --> 01:13:08,460
maybe you want to go for the

1548
01:13:08,460 --> 01:13:11,360
entire parcel

1549
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:15,420
which one would that be 44A

1550
01:13:15,420 --> 01:13:17,400
does that make sense to you

1551
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,980
it makes a lot of sense because it

1552
01:13:19,980 --> 01:13:24,830
squares off that property

1553
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:28,219
it doesn't intrude on 43

1554
01:13:28,219 --> 01:13:32,280
43a is captured in that 450 foot setback

1555
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:36,420
yeah line that is established

1556
01:13:36,420 --> 01:13:37,260
um

1557
01:13:37,260 --> 01:13:40,020
from the center of the road so then it

1558
01:13:40,020 --> 01:13:44,000
doesn't include 43a which is another

1559
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,679
28 Acres which I'm not asking for

1560
01:13:46,679 --> 01:13:49,199
resulting okay

1561
01:13:49,199 --> 01:13:51,060
is that okay with you

1562
01:13:51,060 --> 01:13:53,580
is that what you had minded right I I I

1563
01:13:53,580 --> 01:13:55,920
can't see any other way of doing it the

1564
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:59,040
chocolate yeah

1565
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,920
great I think we have a consensus you

1566
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,080
you're okay with that too

1567
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:05,940
no that's

1568
01:14:05,940 --> 01:14:08,580
because um the consensus in our minutes

1569
01:14:08,580 --> 01:14:12,320
say that rezoning the Westerly 450 feet

1570
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:15,500
parallel to the state highway 4257

1571
01:14:15,500 --> 01:14:20,159
Parcels 43a 44A is consistent with the

1572
01:14:20,159 --> 01:14:23,580
future use of this land as described in

1573
01:14:23,580 --> 01:14:29,649
the Sebastopol comprehensive plan

1574
01:14:29,659 --> 01:14:31,920
a year and a half almost two years

1575
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:33,960
getting that comprehensive plan together

1576
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:35,400
and now if we're going to just do

1577
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,159
whatever we want then

1578
01:14:38,159 --> 01:14:40,020
you were you were in agreeance with this

1579
01:14:40,020 --> 01:14:41,820
too the other day well I was in

1580
01:14:41,820 --> 01:14:45,300
agreement with the 450 feet to me that's

1581
01:14:45,300 --> 01:14:47,880
an arbitrary number because when we drew

1582
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:50,159
those Maps up we didn't we didn't say

1583
01:14:50,159 --> 01:14:53,580
exactly 450 feet we we filled in an area

1584
01:14:53,580 --> 01:14:56,400
correct for for commercial development

1585
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,800
but to me I mean we didn't we didn't get

1586
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:01,320
to the point where we detailed it to uh

1587
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:04,020
to helpful plants each one of those

1588
01:15:04,020 --> 01:15:07,140
lines represented a certain area so if

1589
01:15:07,140 --> 01:15:09,420
there was there was 50 people that drew

1590
01:15:09,420 --> 01:15:11,219
a line that's what made it wider right

1591
01:15:11,219 --> 01:15:12,719
there were two people that made it

1592
01:15:12,719 --> 01:15:15,719
narrower so but each person that drew a

1593
01:15:15,719 --> 01:15:18,540
line or wanted it there it grew or

1594
01:15:18,540 --> 01:15:22,620
shrank right so it was in consensus with

1595
01:15:22,620 --> 01:15:23,900
the

1596
01:15:23,900 --> 01:15:26,219
coloring program when we had our

1597
01:15:26,219 --> 01:15:28,380
comprehensive plan you know I see your

1598
01:15:28,380 --> 01:15:30,840
point but I mean also when we when we

1599
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,900
were talking about updating our Our Land

1600
01:15:33,900 --> 01:15:37,260
usage uh maps that we have we're talking

1601
01:15:37,260 --> 01:15:40,020
about not cutting up parcels and

1602
01:15:40,020 --> 01:15:43,380
including entire Parcels into into the

1603
01:15:43,380 --> 01:15:45,360
various areas so

1604
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:49,260
in this particular case we would

1605
01:15:49,260 --> 01:15:53,100
cut up a parcel of land uh with with

1606
01:15:53,100 --> 01:15:55,199
nine tenths with being Zone commercial

1607
01:15:55,199 --> 01:15:57,780
and one tenthood remaining as

1608
01:15:57,780 --> 01:16:00,669
agricultural

1609
01:16:00,679 --> 01:16:03,120
that wouldn't make much sense to me I

1610
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:04,380
mean we're already talking about

1611
01:16:04,380 --> 01:16:07,320
updating this land use map to represent

1612
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,080
the actual Parcels that are out there

1613
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:11,699
well then I think the next guy that

1614
01:16:11,699 --> 01:16:13,280
comes in is going to want this whole

1615
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:15,300
parcel done too

1616
01:16:15,300 --> 01:16:18,060
well if you look at our comprehensive

1617
01:16:18,060 --> 01:16:21,900
plan that is not law that was ideas and

1618
01:16:21,900 --> 01:16:25,080
suggestions and it's no different than

1619
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:27,300
people wanting to build on their Shore

1620
01:16:27,300 --> 01:16:29,159
Lots or anything else you've got

1621
01:16:29,159 --> 01:16:31,500
variances you change rules and

1622
01:16:31,500 --> 01:16:34,440
regulations to suit what the system is

1623
01:16:34,440 --> 01:16:37,140
or what needs to be done there so but

1624
01:16:37,140 --> 01:16:39,659
it's a guide It's a guide and that's all

1625
01:16:39,659 --> 01:16:42,420
it is and it says to guide us at 450

1626
01:16:42,420 --> 01:16:43,560
feet

1627
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:46,620
okay

1628
01:16:46,620 --> 01:16:48,540
so coming out of your planned commission

1629
01:16:48,540 --> 01:16:51,120
was that you were not in favor we were

1630
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,219
in favor of having it rezoned but the

1631
01:16:53,219 --> 01:16:56,100
450 feet not the whole parcel but he

1632
01:16:56,100 --> 01:17:00,300
also at the time he presented 43a which

1633
01:17:00,300 --> 01:17:03,179
he has dropped out of now so I guess

1634
01:17:03,179 --> 01:17:05,400
it's everything it's changed just a

1635
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:07,980
little bit but

1636
01:17:07,980 --> 01:17:09,960
and it was just information too it's

1637
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:13,080
nothing it's sealed he's got to go and

1638
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:16,320
get a plan but he just wanted us to feel

1639
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:19,380
us out and see you know what we felt

1640
01:17:19,380 --> 01:17:22,620
what did we um Steve you I'm sure you

1641
01:17:22,620 --> 01:17:25,260
remember this what did we do on Grandma

1642
01:17:25,260 --> 01:17:28,020
Tommy's was that all commercial at the

1643
01:17:28,020 --> 01:17:32,699
time or was it country Countryside there was two different

1644
01:17:32,699 --> 01:17:34,860
Parcels there

1645
01:17:34,860 --> 01:17:35,460
um

1646
01:17:35,460 --> 01:17:37,040
one was

1647
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:40,560
a Countryside you know it was all

1648
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:42,300
Countryside but there was two different

1649
01:17:42,300 --> 01:17:46,620
Parcels there you know we did we rezoned

1650
01:17:46,620 --> 01:17:48,900
the top part

1651
01:17:48,900 --> 01:17:50,940
two

1652
01:17:50,940 --> 01:17:54,060
um commercial in the bottom part of

1653
01:17:54,060 --> 01:17:56,820
state and Countryside just like we have

1654
01:17:56,820 --> 01:17:57,900
now

1655
01:17:57,900 --> 01:18:00,840
and we call that an outlet

1656
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:05,040
okay and the outlet was used for

1657
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:09,420
similarities as this could be used for

1658
01:18:09,420 --> 01:18:10,880
um

1659
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:15,540
drainage ditches Retention Ponds

1660
01:18:15,540 --> 01:18:18,540
um not buildable ever

1661
01:18:18,540 --> 01:18:21,140
and uh

1662
01:18:21,140 --> 01:18:23,540
that's how we did it there

1663
01:18:23,540 --> 01:18:26,760
I I just made it just makes sense just

1664
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:28,440
in this part so I'm not saying the 88

1665
01:18:28,440 --> 01:18:31,199
comparcial to make it all commercial I'm

1666
01:18:31,199 --> 01:18:33,900
not saying that but in this parcel it

1667
01:18:33,900 --> 01:18:36,300
just makes sense it seems to make sense

1668
01:18:36,300 --> 01:18:37,860
to Square Off

1669
01:18:37,860 --> 01:18:41,219
this to make it right first of all it

1670
01:18:41,219 --> 01:18:44,460
doesn't protrude on 43a and it squares

1671
01:18:44,460 --> 01:18:48,780
off 44A and it's as I said if this would

1672
01:18:48,780 --> 01:18:51,420
be it would only be about 15 Acres

1673
01:18:51,420 --> 01:18:52,940
of

1674
01:18:52,940 --> 01:18:59,100
commercials area to work with

1675
01:18:59,100 --> 01:19:01,980
and I'm and my guidelines are with also

1676
01:19:01,980 --> 01:19:04,320
with many different permits I would have

1677
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:06,000
to go through conditional use permits

1678
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:07,800
and when I do decide what I'm going to

1679
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:10,020
do with this and I have some thoughts on

1680
01:19:10,020 --> 01:19:13,380
it all also we had going back quite a

1681
01:19:13,380 --> 01:19:14,580
while ago

1682
01:19:14,580 --> 01:19:16,260
we had

1683
01:19:16,260 --> 01:19:17,880
Sons come in here and talk about

1684
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:19,739
rezoning their parcel but they never

1685
01:19:19,739 --> 01:19:22,860
actually did that right they had to

1686
01:19:22,860 --> 01:19:24,120
um they were going to delineate the

1687
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,100
wetlands and they never did that they

1688
01:19:26,100 --> 01:19:27,480
never did that so nothing ever happened

1689
01:19:27,480 --> 01:19:29,880
as ons either and I have the paperwork

1690
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:31,739
on that too

1691
01:19:31,739 --> 01:19:33,260
um whether it was

1692
01:19:33,260 --> 01:19:35,940
focused on but

1693
01:19:35,940 --> 01:19:38,760
have you checked into anything Steve if

1694
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:45,000
that is uh Zone commercial what will you be required to put in a

1695
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,699
frontage road to assess those properties

1696
01:19:47,699 --> 01:19:51,239
right now I am required to take out the

1697
01:19:51,239 --> 01:19:56,100
two driveways going in to

1698
01:19:56,100 --> 01:19:56,699
um

1699
01:19:56,699 --> 01:19:59,520
my own office which is least in my

1700
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:01,860
office space I have a double driveway

1701
01:20:01,860 --> 01:20:03,540
going in there

1702
01:20:03,540 --> 01:20:06,179
I required to take that off and make a

1703
01:20:06,179 --> 01:20:08,900
frontage road as I do on the

1704
01:20:08,900 --> 01:20:12,840
east side of the road like Grandma times

1705
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:14,940
with one driver coming in considering

1706
01:20:14,940 --> 01:20:18,540
the 450 feet that uh 66 feet of that is

1707
01:20:18,540 --> 01:20:20,520
going to wind up his Road

1708
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:22,620
and you've got to be 75 feet off the

1709
01:20:22,620 --> 01:20:23,880
highway

1710
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:25,679
so I mean that parts will get smaller

1711
01:20:25,679 --> 01:20:28,620
and smaller as you as you go along there

1712
01:20:28,620 --> 01:20:31,080
and that was put in the that is

1713
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:34,679
documented in the courthouse

1714
01:20:34,679 --> 01:20:37,020
that that's what has to be done because

1715
01:20:37,020 --> 01:20:40,620
the dot looked at it and that's what

1716
01:20:40,620 --> 01:20:43,440
they recommended and the driveway

1717
01:20:43,440 --> 01:20:46,020
changes I had to go along with that I

1718
01:20:46,020 --> 01:20:47,340
think that was probably the best bet

1719
01:20:47,340 --> 01:20:50,100
where they decided to bring one in on

1720
01:20:50,100 --> 01:20:52,080
the other property and take the tool

1721
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:54,120
so I'm bringing one in and taking too

1722
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:54,960
old

1723
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:58,080
can I do do something in that side

1724
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:02,159
well agency that we don't all agree but

1725
01:21:02,159 --> 01:21:03,719
well I think if

1726
01:21:03,719 --> 01:21:06,000
depending on what he comes back to show

1727
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:07,860
us in terms of what he thinks there's a

1728
01:21:07,860 --> 01:21:09,360
lot of looked like and the way he would

1729
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:11,520
use it that would play I think into the

1730
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:13,560
conversation it makes the actual

1731
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:14,640
application

1732
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:17,100
right right and you know maybe the

1733
01:21:17,100 --> 01:21:18,840
solution is not you know when he makes

1734
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:20,640
the application he's gonna make an

1735
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:22,620
application to resell the property he

1736
01:21:22,620 --> 01:21:24,300
doesn't have to tell you what he's going

1737
01:21:24,300 --> 01:21:25,620
to do with it

1738
01:21:25,620 --> 01:21:27,420
or he can say he's going to do one thing

1739
01:21:27,420 --> 01:21:29,810
and

1740
01:21:29,820 --> 01:21:31,620
I mean yeah there's certain guidelines

1741
01:21:31,620 --> 01:21:34,800
in the commercial zoning classification

1742
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,960
that restricts him to

1743
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:40,739
various right developments so

1744
01:21:40,739 --> 01:21:42,260
I mean

1745
01:21:42,260 --> 01:21:44,280
you've seen what I've done over Grandma

1746
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:46,739
Tommy's he looks pretty very nice I

1747
01:21:46,739 --> 01:21:47,940
believe and

1748
01:21:47,940 --> 01:21:49,920
I would take that into consideration on

1749
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:51,360
the other side when I did something over

1750
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:54,600
there also but uh right it looks Top

1751
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:55,980
Notch I believe

1752
01:21:55,980 --> 01:21:58,620
but my point is that I was spent a year

1753
01:21:58,620 --> 01:22:00,120
and a half on this comprehensive plan

1754
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:03,120
and I'd really like to stick to it and

1755
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:04,679
there was a lot of other people that put

1756
01:22:04,679 --> 01:22:08,280
a lot of you know I was there too effort

1757
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:10,980
into it and okay I see your hand up but

1758
01:22:10,980 --> 01:22:13,260
this isn't really a hearing but I'll

1759
01:22:13,260 --> 01:22:17,470
allow you to speak yeah

1760
01:22:17,480 --> 01:22:20,100
and they're gonna right now we're in the

1761
01:22:20,100 --> 01:22:22,860
process I believe of rerouting

1762
01:22:22,860 --> 01:22:24,840
Forest Road

1763
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,000
so to squared off of the highway if you

1764
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,760
are but the state is dead in the water

1765
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:33,000
right now right oh it's dead where would

1766
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:34,739
you put the one access to your furniture

1767
01:22:34,739 --> 01:22:36,780
straight across from the north access

1768
01:22:36,780 --> 01:22:38,280
that I have now coming in the grandma

1769
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:40,500
Tommy's so north of the intersection

1770
01:22:40,500 --> 01:22:46,450
that is correct north of Forest Road

1771
01:22:46,460 --> 01:22:50,450
any other comments questions

1772
01:22:50,460 --> 01:22:52,260
well good luck I guess you'll have to

1773
01:22:52,260 --> 01:22:54,840
come back to whatever you petition for

1774
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:56,640
and then

1775
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:59,340
see what you can agree with or disagree

1776
01:22:59,340 --> 01:23:01,440
with when it comes to K and then bring

1777
01:23:01,440 --> 01:23:03,960
it to John well I guess what I'm saying

1778
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:06,719
is you know I want to bring in what you

1779
01:23:06,719 --> 01:23:09,060
guys think I mean

1780
01:23:09,060 --> 01:23:15,560
I see that there's some negatives about these

1781
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,719
adding the extra acreage but

1782
01:23:18,719 --> 01:23:21,179
I think that negative is because it's

1783
01:23:21,179 --> 01:23:22,560
drawn on

1784
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:26,580
is drawn on an award you know and plans

1785
01:23:26,580 --> 01:23:28,500
are subject of changes especially when

1786
01:23:28,500 --> 01:23:30,179
you make a comprehensive plan like that

1787
01:23:30,179 --> 01:23:32,040
there's new visions and

1788
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:34,500
stuff like that you see stuff after when

1789
01:23:34,500 --> 01:23:37,380
people come in you know I really seeing

1790
01:23:37,380 --> 01:23:39,179
that for me Richie you came in and you

1791
01:23:39,179 --> 01:23:42,600
wanted the 450 feet that's correct right

1792
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:46,739
so okay but okay your choice the other

1793
01:23:46,739 --> 01:23:50,159
way is to petition for zoning amendment

1794
01:23:50,159 --> 01:23:52,620
to allow and then

1795
01:23:52,620 --> 01:23:54,840
it'll be like talking to the big guy up

1796
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:57,410
there

1797
01:23:57,420 --> 01:24:01,199
thank you all right thank you sorry

1798
01:24:01,199 --> 01:24:03,900
we can't be more country

1799
01:24:03,900 --> 01:24:06,550
I don't know

1800
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:10,920
okay any other discussion on that one I

1801
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:13,320
could just say one thing that our

1802
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:15,480
comprehensive plan also

1803
01:24:15,480 --> 01:24:18,360
has some paperwork in it on trying to

1804
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:22,140
attract businesses into our town and I

1805
01:24:22,140 --> 01:24:23,400
don't believe

1806
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:25,860
by trying to discourage somebody

1807
01:24:25,860 --> 01:24:27,420
changing their property to Commercial

1808
01:24:27,420 --> 01:24:30,840
and and bringing business in

1809
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:32,460
I know something we should be doing

1810
01:24:32,460 --> 01:24:34,920
either so well wait a minute though that

1811
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:36,659
is what I'm trying to do

1812
01:24:36,659 --> 01:24:38,340
I'm not saying he can't change

1813
01:24:38,340 --> 01:24:41,340
commercial it's just the distance you

1814
01:24:41,340 --> 01:24:42,300
know with sticking with the

1815
01:24:42,300 --> 01:24:43,800
comprehensive plan

1816
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:46,500
and when he presented it everybody at

1817
01:24:46,500 --> 01:24:49,280
there was four of us at the uh plan

1818
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:52,199
commission who said that we were in

1819
01:24:52,199 --> 01:24:56,159
support of him getting the 450 feet

1820
01:24:56,159 --> 01:24:59,520
changed to commercial

1821
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:00,659
so

1822
01:25:00,659 --> 01:25:05,340
it's it's not a point of commercial it's what the footage is so you're gonna

1823
01:25:05,340 --> 01:25:07,199
do the whole lot or are you going to do

1824
01:25:07,199 --> 01:25:10,790
the 450 feet

1825
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:13,140
I think what happened here is it went

1826
01:25:13,140 --> 01:25:15,659
back to your trying to correct the

1827
01:25:15,659 --> 01:25:17,340
zoning to the property lines and

1828
01:25:17,340 --> 01:25:20,040
straighten them out and we're now we're

1829
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:21,960
doing that yeah kind of convoluted the

1830
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:24,900
whole thing to go Mr chairman if I might

1831
01:25:24,900 --> 01:25:27,120
and Steve did the answer is no you

1832
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:30,360
cannot oh come on what did John answer

1833
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:33,000
for what

1834
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:34,620
just was saying that you know we're not

1835
01:25:34,620 --> 01:25:37,380
back to Chuck we're not trying to

1836
01:25:37,380 --> 01:25:39,480
you know discourage anybody from

1837
01:25:39,480 --> 01:25:41,699
building anything it's you know I'll be

1838
01:25:41,699 --> 01:25:44,000
more happy one point is that the

1839
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:47,159
comprehensive plan is a tool

1840
01:25:47,159 --> 01:25:50,820
it's suggestions and all right yeah it

1841
01:25:50,820 --> 01:25:52,920
could be but there's some big properties

1842
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:54,540
there too

1843
01:25:54,540 --> 01:25:57,780
and as dick stated you look at them

1844
01:25:57,780 --> 01:26:03,050
individually each one has its merits

1845
01:26:03,060 --> 01:26:05,280
yeah it's kind of a mute argument until

1846
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:08,520
he actually applies for the rezone

1847
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:10,139
everybody was trying to look for some

1848
01:26:10,139 --> 01:26:18,790
guidance and we're just confusing him

1849
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:21,360
my comment was when Steve first

1850
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:22,560
presented

1851
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:25,800
it to only mention the 450 feet which is

1852
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:28,020
why it came out that that was our

1853
01:26:28,020 --> 01:26:30,800
consensus we were in favor of his

1854
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,900
development we thought it fit in with

1855
01:26:33,900 --> 01:26:36,659
our plan and we did say unless new facts

1856
01:26:36,659 --> 01:26:39,000
are presented John so these are new

1857
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:42,600
facts you don't want the 43a you do want

1858
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:45,480
the whole parcel of forum foray we're

1859
01:26:45,480 --> 01:26:48,239
considering squaring things off so I

1860
01:26:48,239 --> 01:26:52,500
don't think we're as far apart as okay

1861
01:26:52,500 --> 01:26:54,600
I think you can make your application

1862
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,219
and we'll

1863
01:26:56,219 --> 01:26:58,320
I'll have another say I don't look at it

1864
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:00,000
anyway

1865
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:02,460
thank you thank you

1866
01:27:02,460 --> 01:27:07,370
sorry

1867
01:27:07,380 --> 01:27:09,659
to our kind of bicycle pedestrian and

1868
01:27:09,659 --> 01:27:13,669
Recreation plan

1869
01:27:13,679 --> 01:27:15,900
then just finished reading everything

1870
01:27:15,900 --> 01:27:17,340
there is to know

1871
01:27:17,340 --> 01:27:21,490
multiple are coming

1872
01:27:21,500 --> 01:27:25,440
anyway we do have a couple of copies

1873
01:27:25,440 --> 01:27:28,380
and he was interested I believe it's up

1874
01:27:28,380 --> 01:27:30,719
on the web as well

1875
01:27:30,719 --> 01:27:39,430
uh the accounting website

1876
01:27:39,440 --> 01:27:42,420
and it's there for an FYI so we'll do no

1877
01:27:42,420 --> 01:27:45,060
more dork contracts and contract

1878
01:27:45,060 --> 01:27:46,800
approvals

1879
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:50,520
discussion Mr Whiteman okay I just want

1880
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:53,699
to bring this up as a discussion item

1881
01:27:53,699 --> 01:27:54,600
um

1882
01:27:54,600 --> 01:28:00,600
based somewhat of my confusion with the actual contracts that we have our

1883
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:04,159
contract we have with the

1884
01:28:04,159 --> 01:28:07,020
spring green company for landscape

1885
01:28:07,020 --> 01:28:09,239
Services mainly pesticide applications

1886
01:28:09,239 --> 01:28:12,780
to the park I would like to see

1887
01:28:12,780 --> 01:28:15,780
all contracts for services materials

1888
01:28:15,780 --> 01:28:18,060
both private and government vendors

1889
01:28:18,060 --> 01:28:19,860
be presented to the town board for

1890
01:28:19,860 --> 01:28:21,719
approval

1891
01:28:21,719 --> 01:28:22,560
um

1892
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:25,080
you know and and spelled out I would

1893
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:29,100
also recommend that when we do

1894
01:28:29,100 --> 01:28:32,639
contract with private vendors

1895
01:28:32,639 --> 01:28:35,699
that we limit those to one year one year

1896
01:28:35,699 --> 01:28:37,560
contracts

1897
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:39,060
um

1898
01:28:39,060 --> 01:28:42,120
and we we do not do any pay ahead on

1899
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,100
contracted services

1900
01:28:44,100 --> 01:28:46,800
and I'd also like to see maybe some more

1901
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:48,360
transparency

1902
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:51,139
and when we we

1903
01:28:51,139 --> 01:28:54,360
request proposals for each contracts

1904
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:58,920
and we also we do actually do an RFP

1905
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:02,460
to private vendors on contracts well I

1906
01:29:02,460 --> 01:29:03,600
want you to know that we have

1907
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:05,520
accomplished that in the past it's not

1908
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:07,679
anything that's new

1909
01:29:07,679 --> 01:29:10,320
your particular interest is in the

1910
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:13,080
application and the landscape

1911
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:15,060
and that's the only one that you brought

1912
01:29:15,060 --> 01:29:17,699
forward to this great so far

1913
01:29:17,699 --> 01:29:21,960
what I've done I've asked are

1914
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:23,940
clerk to take a look at the number of

1915
01:29:23,940 --> 01:29:26,219
contracts that we have

1916
01:29:26,219 --> 01:29:29,100
not only in the past year but those that

1917
01:29:29,100 --> 01:29:31,800
have been in place

1918
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,380
for the last

1919
01:29:34,380 --> 01:29:35,760
umpteen years

1920
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:37,739
and I think you're going to be very much

1921
01:29:37,739 --> 01:29:40,400
surprised and knowing that we do have

1922
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:45,550
contracts that go to about

1923
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:51,770
number wise

1924
01:29:51,780 --> 01:29:54,840
team we are into I'll just give you a

1925
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:56,340
couple of

1926
01:29:56,340 --> 01:29:59,880
Animal Control assessor Services audits

1927
01:29:59,880 --> 01:30:02,100
U cable

1928
01:30:02,100 --> 01:30:04,320
Clark Lake Meats

1929
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:06,179
Clark Lake round

1930
01:30:06,179 --> 01:30:09,480
Clark Lake Dam great clerk treasure is

1931
01:30:09,480 --> 01:30:11,420
under contact

1932
01:30:11,420 --> 01:30:14,280
and Fire Protection the town hall and

1933
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:16,500
the grounds ball field government

1934
01:30:16,500 --> 01:30:18,900
agencies right I mean we've got them all

1935
01:30:18,900 --> 01:30:21,719
we an intergovernmental I think you know

1936
01:30:21,719 --> 01:30:23,760
just this particular case I mean I think

1937
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:25,440
it was confusing whether or not we had a

1938
01:30:25,440 --> 01:30:27,380
one-year contract a two-year contract

1939
01:30:27,380 --> 01:30:30,199
and and I think

1940
01:30:30,199 --> 01:30:32,520
if I can stop you

1941
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:34,560
this has been a moment of contention

1942
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:36,960
with you since you've joined the group

1943
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:39,659
and each time you attack it from a

1944
01:30:39,659 --> 01:30:41,580
different

1945
01:30:41,580 --> 01:30:45,120
perspective now if you want to sit down

1946
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:46,679
and

1947
01:30:46,679 --> 01:30:49,860
go over these contracts you're very much

1948
01:30:49,860 --> 01:30:51,540
entitled to

1949
01:30:51,540 --> 01:30:54,120
any one of these contracts uh you're

1950
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:57,239
having your own copy if you like or else

1951
01:30:57,239 --> 01:31:00,020
taking a review that was there

1952
01:31:00,020 --> 01:31:02,760
previously you were totally opposed to a

1953
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:07,380
two-year and when I went to the attorney

1954
01:31:07,380 --> 01:31:09,840
I was told that we are to honor the

1955
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:12,179
two-year and if we want to do something

1956
01:31:12,179 --> 01:31:14,219
in the future it's fine yeah you know

1957
01:31:14,219 --> 01:31:16,380
that's why we aren't going to throw good

1958
01:31:16,380 --> 01:31:18,540
money after bad because you don't want

1959
01:31:18,540 --> 01:31:20,940
to go to a two-year contract well I I

1960
01:31:20,940 --> 01:31:22,440
think there's a certain amount of risk

1961
01:31:22,440 --> 01:31:24,780
in developing a two-year contract with a

1962
01:31:24,780 --> 01:31:26,280
private vendor

1963
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:29,280
I mean you're you're uh basically

1964
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:32,280
Contracting and if something does happen

1965
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:34,500
at vendor um

1966
01:31:34,500 --> 01:31:36,840
I would much rather prefer a one-year

1967
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:39,360
contract and then we review it every

1968
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:40,920
year

1969
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:42,840
because there's also I mean in this

1970
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:44,820
particular case I'm not going to debate

1971
01:31:44,820 --> 01:31:46,739
this issue of pesticide applications to

1972
01:31:46,739 --> 01:31:49,980
the town park at this point but I think

1973
01:31:49,980 --> 01:31:52,260
you know it's good that every year we

1974
01:31:52,260 --> 01:31:54,060
bring this subject up because there are

1975
01:31:54,060 --> 01:31:56,880
a lot of concerned individuals

1976
01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:59,699
in the palace basketball

1977
01:31:59,699 --> 01:32:02,159
that made their concerns known to me

1978
01:32:02,159 --> 01:32:06,239
anyhow about this contract and I think

1979
01:32:06,239 --> 01:32:07,880
it's it's

1980
01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:10,739
representing their interests that every

1981
01:32:10,739 --> 01:32:13,280
year we bring this up before the board

1982
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:18,239
as a one-year contract right eight nine

1983
01:32:18,239 --> 01:32:21,000
years so what I'm saying is none of

1984
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:23,940
these were executed by the town clerk or

1985
01:32:23,940 --> 01:32:25,980
by me individually

1986
01:32:25,980 --> 01:32:29,280
or by a supervisor we all it all came

1987
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:31,260
here for right and that's what I'm

1988
01:32:31,260 --> 01:32:33,000
asking for and in this particular case

1989
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:34,800
I'm asking for

1990
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:38,280
a renewal on this particular contract uh

1991
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:40,440
eliminating it to one year and then

1992
01:32:40,440 --> 01:32:42,840
bringing it up for discussion on a

1993
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:45,179
yearly basis okay we'll share that with

1994
01:32:45,179 --> 01:32:46,739
you and you can have your questions

1995
01:32:46,739 --> 01:32:50,580
ready for us next time all right

1996
01:32:50,580 --> 01:32:53,340
okay we have no other uh

1997
01:32:53,340 --> 01:32:55,500
action that we can take on it because

1998
01:32:55,500 --> 01:33:00,470
it's there for

1999
01:33:00,480 --> 01:33:04,370
didn't really know what you're

2000
01:33:04,380 --> 01:33:10,010
discussion was going to be about

2001
01:33:10,020 --> 01:33:12,480
okay authorization for a payment of the

2002
01:33:12,480 --> 01:33:16,440
February and March 2014 vouchers

2003
01:33:16,440 --> 01:33:19,760
Mills in lieu of the March

2004
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:22,460
2014 board meeting

2005
01:33:22,460 --> 01:33:25,679
I need a motion to authorize payment of

2006
01:33:25,679 --> 01:33:26,940
those bills

2007
01:33:26,940 --> 01:33:29,159
move that we authorized payment of the

2008
01:33:29,159 --> 01:33:31,800
February March 23 23rd vouchers built in

2009
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:33,060
Planes

2010
01:33:33,060 --> 01:33:35,280
this would be only in the event that

2011
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:37,620
there's no marks meeting

2012
01:33:37,620 --> 01:33:41,390
a second then okay

2013
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:43,620
so we'll leave it up to the clerk we do

2014
01:33:43,620 --> 01:33:46,500
have we'd have a resolution on a file

2015
01:33:46,500 --> 01:33:49,020
yes we do that's right okay yes for

2016
01:33:49,020 --> 01:33:50,760
timely payment all right any questions

2017
01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:52,080
are coming

2018
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:54,239
I think two of the supervisors the cat's

2019
01:33:54,239 --> 01:33:56,699
got their times

2020
01:33:56,699 --> 01:33:59,400
okay say what I said two of the

2021
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:01,380
supervisors can sick second and make

2022
01:34:01,380 --> 01:34:02,719
motions too

2023
01:34:02,719 --> 01:34:07,139
uh all in favor say aye aye opponed

2024
01:34:07,139 --> 01:34:10,020
if we have a resolution on hand do we

2025
01:34:10,020 --> 01:34:13,440
need to bring this up here for you

2026
01:34:13,440 --> 01:34:17,040
the resolutions is for time sensitive

2027
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:19,920
payments as in the utility bills which

2028
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:22,440
are usually payable before the next

2029
01:34:22,440 --> 01:34:23,820
board meeting

2030
01:34:23,820 --> 01:34:26,580
so but this would cover all of the bills

2031
01:34:26,580 --> 01:34:28,080
that we incur

2032
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:29,820
from

2033
01:34:29,820 --> 01:34:32,280
the tonight going forward to the next

2034
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:34,980
meeting which will be April

2035
01:34:34,980 --> 01:34:38,520
14. equal our annual meeting is April

2036
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:40,560
14th the regular board meeting would be

2037
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:42,360
April 21st

2038
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:43,860
obviously we're gonna have a lot of

2039
01:34:43,860 --> 01:34:49,490
bills in that time frame

2040
01:34:49,500 --> 01:34:52,620
I'm with you homeowner will water

2041
01:34:52,620 --> 01:34:55,860
testing program through the University

2042
01:34:55,860 --> 01:34:57,540
of Wisconsin

2043
01:34:57,540 --> 01:35:01,070
Stevens Point

2044
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:04,930
um

2045
01:35:04,940 --> 01:35:07,440
let's get the death service on the town

2046
01:35:07,440 --> 01:35:13,729
yeah

2047
01:35:13,739 --> 01:35:15,360
all right number five would be the

2048
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:16,800
notice of the principal and interest

2049
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:18,480
payments

2050
01:35:18,480 --> 01:35:20,760
and this would be the pfm company

2051
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:23,750
interest

2052
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:25,080
um

2053
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:27,780
note of Interest here is that the two

2054
01:35:27,780 --> 01:35:29,760
checks need to be

2055
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:32,699
cut this time around it's the interest

2056
01:35:32,699 --> 01:35:34,560
separate of

2057
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:36,780
the principal is this the first time go

2058
01:35:36,780 --> 01:35:40,080
around on that no our March Debt Service

2059
01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:42,719
payments are always separated principal

2060
01:35:42,719 --> 01:35:45,060
and interest it's interest only in

2061
01:35:45,060 --> 01:35:47,460
September so there again this obviously

2062
01:35:47,460 --> 01:35:49,199
this is one of the bills that you just

2063
01:35:49,199 --> 01:35:51,000
approved payment of it's going to be due

2064
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:52,500
March 1st

2065
01:35:52,500 --> 01:35:54,780
interest of seven thousand one hundred

2066
01:35:54,780 --> 01:35:56,040
and twenty dollars

2067
01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:58,739
principal of 95 000 and free information

2068
01:35:58,739 --> 01:36:00,659
that'll take us down to a principal

2069
01:36:00,659 --> 01:36:02,719
balance of

2070
01:36:02,719 --> 01:36:05,760
495 all right so we're we're already uh

2071
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:09,120
committed on that and there are no no

2072
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:11,219
action necessary correct we should

2073
01:36:11,219 --> 01:36:13,560
probably start to plan for a mortgage

2074
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:16,139
burning party five years out get a

2075
01:36:16,139 --> 01:36:18,960
committee going oh sure okay I think it

2076
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:20,940
would be interesting to know save all

2077
01:36:20,940 --> 01:36:22,800
the paper though

2078
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:25,800
all this bill is being paid where the

2079
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:29,040
funds are coming from and

2080
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:31,800
the the system that has been worked out

2081
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:34,860
to pay for this building

2082
01:36:34,860 --> 01:36:37,440
as far as using the

2083
01:36:37,440 --> 01:36:43,330
tourism tax dollars

2084
01:36:43,340 --> 01:36:45,600
and we thank you for all your efforts

2085
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:47,760
and bringing that money actual taxpayers

2086
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:50,040
of the tonal Sebastopol have not had to

2087
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:52,980
put any money for for the payment of

2088
01:36:52,980 --> 01:36:56,330
this building at this point

2089
01:36:56,340 --> 01:36:58,500
it was a good decision whoever made that

2090
01:36:58,500 --> 01:37:00,320
to say

2091
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:02,460
all right number six would be the

2092
01:37:02,460 --> 01:37:04,199
homeowner well water testing program

2093
01:37:04,199 --> 01:37:06,360
through the University of Wisconsin

2094
01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:08,639
Stevens Point only because Linda has

2095
01:37:08,639 --> 01:37:11,460
been involved with this through

2096
01:37:11,460 --> 01:37:13,679
jacksonport and other participating

2097
01:37:13,679 --> 01:37:16,020
townships

2098
01:37:16,020 --> 01:37:18,000
why don't you give us a quick one and

2099
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:19,739
then Victoria wants to talk on it as

2100
01:37:19,739 --> 01:37:21,719
well okay I'll try to make it quick this

2101
01:37:21,719 --> 01:37:25,320
came before the board last fall October

2102
01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:28,800
um because there were costs involved and

2103
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:29,400
um

2104
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:31,679
the Distributing the advertising and

2105
01:37:31,679 --> 01:37:34,860
things like that no action was taken I

2106
01:37:34,860 --> 01:37:37,380
recently had several phone conversations

2107
01:37:37,380 --> 01:37:41,280
and several emails from Jerry viste who

2108
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:43,139
is the president or chairman of the Door

2109
01:37:43,139 --> 01:37:46,199
County Environmental Council the

2110
01:37:46,199 --> 01:37:48,900
environmental Council has offered to

2111
01:37:48,900 --> 01:37:52,199
cover five hundred dollars for the

2112
01:37:52,199 --> 01:37:54,780
promotion of this program that's

2113
01:37:54,780 --> 01:37:57,960
basically what he said

2114
01:37:57,960 --> 01:38:00,179
um the town of jacksonport

2115
01:38:00,179 --> 01:38:03,840
is most likely proceeding

2116
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:04,560
um

2117
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:07,139
the town of Sturgeon Bay I believe their

2118
01:38:07,139 --> 01:38:08,699
board is going to be addressing that

2119
01:38:08,699 --> 01:38:10,440
issue this week

2120
01:38:10,440 --> 01:38:13,199
they like to have about a hundred

2121
01:38:13,199 --> 01:38:15,420
participants between all the

2122
01:38:15,420 --> 01:38:18,620
municipalities that jump on board

2123
01:38:18,620 --> 01:38:22,980
the 2013 participation involved the town

2124
01:38:22,980 --> 01:38:24,900
of Egg Harbor the village of Egg Harbor

2125
01:38:24,900 --> 01:38:27,980
and the town of Bailey's Harbor they had

2126
01:38:27,980 --> 01:38:31,800
110 participants so they did reach the

2127
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:34,860
100 Mark and they did go forward the

2128
01:38:34,860 --> 01:38:39,060
test results are kept confidential

2129
01:38:39,060 --> 01:38:40,980
um to the homeowner however the town

2130
01:38:40,980 --> 01:38:44,460
would receive some mapping as to which

2131
01:38:44,460 --> 01:38:47,100
Wells were tested

2132
01:38:47,100 --> 01:38:50,340
uh the Prices range depending on how

2133
01:38:50,340 --> 01:38:52,560
comprehensive of a test you want it can

2134
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:55,920
go anywhere from forty nine dollars to a

2135
01:38:55,920 --> 01:38:58,080
hundred and ten dollars for the full

2136
01:38:58,080 --> 01:38:59,760
package

2137
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:03,719
as far as promoting in our local media

2138
01:39:03,719 --> 01:39:05,520
in the newspapers

2139
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:08,400
costs could run I did get some estimates

2140
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:12,139
for a quarter page black and white ad

2141
01:39:12,139 --> 01:39:15,060
285 dollars

2142
01:39:15,060 --> 01:39:18,600
I'm sorry 295 dollars in one publication

2143
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:20,040
two hundred dollars in another

2144
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:22,800
publication if we can jump on board and

2145
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:25,320
get Jackson port in Sturgeon Bay we just

2146
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:27,239
run one ad

2147
01:39:27,239 --> 01:39:31,430
our cost would be covered

2148
01:39:31,440 --> 01:39:34,320
um the environmental Council jury Vista

2149
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:35,699
would be happy to come out and do a

2150
01:39:35,699 --> 01:39:39,300
presentation if you like there are other

2151
01:39:39,300 --> 01:39:42,239
water tests

2152
01:39:42,239 --> 01:39:45,120
um kits and outfits that will test your

2153
01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:46,980
water Door County sanitarians department

2154
01:39:46,980 --> 01:39:49,800
will test it from waste water will test

2155
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:52,679
it there's a lab in Luxembourg that will

2156
01:39:52,679 --> 01:39:56,100
test it and Mr lutson also gave me the

2157
01:39:56,100 --> 01:39:58,280
website of an outfit that will test

2158
01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:02,040
again Prices range how comprehensive a

2159
01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:04,739
test you want so that's sort of it in a

2160
01:40:04,739 --> 01:40:07,620
nutshell the testing would take place in

2161
01:40:07,620 --> 01:40:10,560
July or August the homeowner would need

2162
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:13,320
to come to the town hall town hall or

2163
01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:15,120
whatever Arrangements we decide to make

2164
01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:17,820
you need to get a sample bottle you need

2165
01:40:17,820 --> 01:40:20,280
to have it back to the town hall or the

2166
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:23,100
collecting station on a dates for

2167
01:40:23,100 --> 01:40:25,679
specific and that's mostly likely going

2168
01:40:25,679 --> 01:40:28,139
to be a Sunday so that sample needs to

2169
01:40:28,139 --> 01:40:29,699
be here on Sunday it needs to be

2170
01:40:29,699 --> 01:40:34,790
delivered to Stevens Point on Monday

2171
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:38,280
no deviation from that schedule

2172
01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:40,800
and that's all I know all right that was

2173
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:43,860
the cost that uh

2174
01:40:43,860 --> 01:40:46,380
what do we have for a cost to do this uh

2175
01:40:46,380 --> 01:40:48,960
the total it can range depending on what

2176
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:52,620
you want tested I did look at it and

2177
01:40:52,620 --> 01:40:53,880
there are like

2178
01:40:53,880 --> 01:40:55,980
oh there's got to be like 20 elements

2179
01:40:55,980 --> 01:40:57,659
here that they would test for

2180
01:40:57,659 --> 01:41:00,000
and depending on what package you choose

2181
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:02,280
it's anywhere between forty nine dollars

2182
01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:06,649
and one hundred and ten dollars

2183
01:41:06,659 --> 01:41:09,780
there were three tests

2184
01:41:09,780 --> 01:41:12,600
first one was 49 that's the homeowner's

2185
01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:15,420
package test for Chloroform bacteria

2186
01:41:15,420 --> 01:41:18,060
nitrates chlorine hardness alkalinity

2187
01:41:18,060 --> 01:41:19,860
and pH

2188
01:41:19,860 --> 01:41:24,659
the metals package test is 42 additional

2189
01:41:24,659 --> 01:41:28,679
tests for arsenic lead copper iron zinc

2190
01:41:28,679 --> 01:41:30,860
calcium magnesium

2191
01:41:30,860 --> 01:41:35,040
magnetum sodium potassium

2192
01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:36,900
and sulfates

2193
01:41:36,900 --> 01:41:40,920
and then the dact screen package

2194
01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:45,119
test for the breakdown of the components

2195
01:41:45,119 --> 01:41:48,300
that's atrophene and pesticides another

2196
01:41:48,300 --> 01:41:50,159
twenty seven dollars

2197
01:41:50,159 --> 01:41:52,380
if you took all three packages together

2198
01:41:52,380 --> 01:41:57,490
you paid 110.

2199
01:41:57,500 --> 01:41:59,520
dependent on what you want to have

2200
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:00,840
accomplished

2201
01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:04,560
and the other sites that Linda

2202
01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:07,440
give you as far as he from Luxembourg

2203
01:42:07,440 --> 01:42:09,000
and

2204
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:12,800
uh Mr lutzen with the

2205
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:16,020
h2o6 was it

2206
01:42:16,020 --> 01:42:19,679
they're down in the area of 25 dollars

2207
01:42:19,679 --> 01:42:22,139
Victoria had asked permission to speak

2208
01:42:22,139 --> 01:42:28,070
on this so

2209
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:30,659
express my support of the homeowner well

2210
01:42:30,659 --> 01:42:33,719
water testing program we test our water

2211
01:42:33,719 --> 01:42:37,199
every year on I live on Cherry Road and

2212
01:42:37,199 --> 01:42:42,800
it would cost us probably uh

2213
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:47,159
230 dollars to accomplish the tests that

2214
01:42:47,159 --> 01:42:49,739
they have if you add the homeowners and

2215
01:42:49,739 --> 01:42:52,139
the medals packaged together if you add

2216
01:42:52,139 --> 01:42:55,260
the pesticide test it would be another

2217
01:42:55,260 --> 01:42:58,500
it would bring it up to 550 dollars we

2218
01:42:58,500 --> 01:43:01,800
use clean water testing in Appleton and

2219
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:05,100
have used them for many years so my

2220
01:43:05,100 --> 01:43:07,380
husband and I consider this a real value

2221
01:43:07,380 --> 01:43:11,159
for our dollar and we'd like to see the

2222
01:43:11,159 --> 01:43:13,440
town participate and if we can't

2223
01:43:13,440 --> 01:43:15,480
participate here we were going to ask

2224
01:43:15,480 --> 01:43:18,179
jacksonport if we could participate with

2225
01:43:18,179 --> 01:43:23,219
them okay Mr Luton uh I take my

2226
01:43:23,219 --> 01:43:27,300
test up to eat from water testing and it

2227
01:43:27,300 --> 01:43:29,580
cost you twenty three dollars

2228
01:43:29,580 --> 01:43:31,860
for it one test

2229
01:43:31,860 --> 01:43:36,659
now in the meantime I do take my own

2230
01:43:36,659 --> 01:43:39,840
home well test I get these through the

2231
01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:41,040
internet

2232
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:44,760
and these these tests cost

2233
01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:47,340
around twenty three dollars but you get

2234
01:43:47,340 --> 01:43:52,199
two tests out of one little kit

2235
01:43:52,199 --> 01:43:54,719
so you can you can get or you can split

2236
01:43:54,719 --> 01:43:57,300
your test up and do an offer

2237
01:43:57,300 --> 01:44:00,300
what exactly are you testing for pardon

2238
01:44:00,300 --> 01:44:03,420
what are you testing for I get I believe

2239
01:44:03,420 --> 01:44:06,300
it's eight it might be ten but I I

2240
01:44:06,300 --> 01:44:09,179
believe it's eight tests and it tests

2241
01:44:09,179 --> 01:44:12,960
all your all your uh main tests that you

2242
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:14,159
have to take

2243
01:44:14,159 --> 01:44:16,139
I could have brought it along I don't

2244
01:44:16,139 --> 01:44:19,139
remember them all but I mean I do this

2245
01:44:19,139 --> 01:44:21,659
all year long and

2246
01:44:21,659 --> 01:44:24,360
it pays to test your wealth

2247
01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:26,460
but I don't really believe the town

2248
01:44:26,460 --> 01:44:28,619
board or the township should get

2249
01:44:28,619 --> 01:44:31,860
involved in going through water testing

2250
01:44:31,860 --> 01:44:34,920
for people they can do this this is not

2251
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:37,340
anything that we would do

2252
01:44:37,340 --> 01:44:42,729
we would go with the Door County

2253
01:44:42,739 --> 01:44:46,699
dcec whichever that is environmental

2254
01:44:46,699 --> 01:44:49,800
Council there they would make 500

2255
01:44:49,800 --> 01:44:51,360
available

2256
01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:53,699
for us to bring that to the attention in

2257
01:44:53,699 --> 01:44:54,840
the media

2258
01:44:54,840 --> 01:44:57,619
to promote it but the actual testing

2259
01:44:57,619 --> 01:45:00,000
that you want to have accomplished would

2260
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:03,420
be up to you or me or anyone else we

2261
01:45:03,420 --> 01:45:05,699
aren't going to use any County or Tunnel

2262
01:45:05,699 --> 01:45:08,159
right the package and this yeah the

2263
01:45:08,159 --> 01:45:10,199
package they represent that they present

2264
01:45:10,199 --> 01:45:16,639
here is definitely a good deal now the atropine

2265
01:45:16,639 --> 01:45:20,659
acetylcholine inhibitor one really only

2266
01:45:20,659 --> 01:45:23,780
targets a small group of pesticides

2267
01:45:23,780 --> 01:45:26,040
insecticides so

2268
01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:28,139
whether or not you know that's worth the

2269
01:45:28,139 --> 01:45:31,440
extra 27 dollars probably not most

2270
01:45:31,440 --> 01:45:34,080
pesticide tests are very specific as to

2271
01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:36,719
the pesticide that you're looking for so

2272
01:45:36,719 --> 01:45:38,520
this is kind of a general

2273
01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:41,280
for one definite group of insecticides

2274
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:44,760
so but the other tests yes I mean keep

2275
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:46,260
in mind that all these elements are

2276
01:45:46,260 --> 01:45:48,000
background elements in the soil right

2277
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:48,780
now

2278
01:45:48,780 --> 01:45:50,760
so I mean you're always going to get a

2279
01:45:50,760 --> 01:45:53,639
detect at a certain level for a lot of

2280
01:45:53,639 --> 01:45:59,390
these things so

2281
01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:01,980
this place per year because of

2282
01:46:01,980 --> 01:46:04,739
commercial life I'll rent the E coli

2283
01:46:04,739 --> 01:46:08,159
test for me we just don't pop this being

2284
01:46:08,159 --> 01:46:12,239
a public building we test quarterly Jim

2285
01:46:12,239 --> 01:46:15,659
yeah how many tests four quarterly

2286
01:46:15,659 --> 01:46:18,840
oh yeah okay

2287
01:46:18,840 --> 01:46:20,940
um these samples go to Steven's Point

2288
01:46:20,940 --> 01:46:24,000
and I had suggested to Mr vistie because

2289
01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:26,280
there are so many people concerned with

2290
01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:28,860
their well water why don't they get a

2291
01:46:28,860 --> 01:46:31,440
local effort going between the

2292
01:46:31,440 --> 01:46:34,139
sanitaries office instead of

2293
01:46:34,139 --> 01:46:36,320
you know giving the University students

2294
01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:43,070
summertime work why not

2295
01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:45,780
what's causing the problem here in the

2296
01:46:45,780 --> 01:46:49,980
high school is equally

2297
01:46:49,980 --> 01:46:53,340
it's a group of a group of bacteria in

2298
01:46:53,340 --> 01:46:56,760
the E coli genus and species E coli okay

2299
01:46:56,760 --> 01:47:02,940
there are specific strains within that species that are Marshall we're

2300
01:47:02,940 --> 01:47:04,739
more concerned with than others but when

2301
01:47:04,739 --> 01:47:06,780
they test for coliform bacteria they're

2302
01:47:06,780 --> 01:47:09,659
testing for a group of bacteria right

2303
01:47:09,659 --> 01:47:10,860
doctor

2304
01:47:10,860 --> 01:47:12,600
yes and that's what I was going to ask

2305
01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:14,940
you otherwise big concern would be

2306
01:47:14,940 --> 01:47:18,900
arsenic or heavy metals indoor County my

2307
01:47:18,900 --> 01:47:21,300
question is after you test your wells

2308
01:47:21,300 --> 01:47:23,699
and you have then just Mr roots in a new

2309
01:47:23,699 --> 01:47:25,920
victory what do you do if you get a red

2310
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:28,619
flag if you retest well last year we did

2311
01:47:28,619 --> 01:47:30,840
get a red flag right I won't go into all

2312
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:32,580
it's all confidential they aren't going

2313
01:47:32,580 --> 01:47:34,560
to tell us about it I mean but they

2314
01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:36,179
don't have to but you didn't or

2315
01:47:36,179 --> 01:47:38,820
something twice

2316
01:47:38,820 --> 01:47:42,119
and are using some meditation and I'm

2317
01:47:42,119 --> 01:47:45,380
looking for more gotcha

2318
01:47:45,380 --> 01:47:48,000
okay so the matter before us is whether

2319
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:50,219
or not we want to accept their 500

2320
01:47:50,219 --> 01:47:51,540
dollars

2321
01:47:51,540 --> 01:47:53,580
I think the program has a good program

2322
01:47:53,580 --> 01:47:55,380
and anytime you can save our

2323
01:47:55,380 --> 01:47:57,719
constituents money by getting a test for

2324
01:47:57,719 --> 01:48:00,360
them at a at a reduced rate it's a great

2325
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:02,639
deal and the water concerns are a big

2326
01:48:02,639 --> 01:48:03,780
problem here

2327
01:48:03,780 --> 01:48:06,179
my only concern with this program is

2328
01:48:06,179 --> 01:48:08,760
where do we find a volunteer who is

2329
01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:10,739
willing to spend their Sunday sitting

2330
01:48:10,739 --> 01:48:12,540
here at the Town Hall collecting these

2331
01:48:12,540 --> 01:48:14,460
samples and driving them down to Stevens

2332
01:48:14,460 --> 01:48:18,430
Point for Monday morning

2333
01:48:18,440 --> 01:48:22,020
the program was presented us no cost to

2334
01:48:22,020 --> 01:48:23,639
the town

2335
01:48:23,639 --> 01:48:26,880
yet we're responsible for collecting the

2336
01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:28,980
sample passing these sample bottles out

2337
01:48:28,980 --> 01:48:30,600
in the first place and then collecting

2338
01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:33,239
them and transporting them

2339
01:48:33,239 --> 01:48:38,880
so uh I mean if we talked earlier that any further

2340
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:41,699
expense on projects like this or that we

2341
01:48:41,699 --> 01:48:44,340
should be looking for Grant dollars or

2342
01:48:44,340 --> 01:48:47,460
whatever to help support these programs

2343
01:48:47,460 --> 01:48:49,920
this is one item that is not in our

2344
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:52,380
budget for the year

2345
01:48:52,380 --> 01:48:55,320
costs may not be that high but it's just

2346
01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:57,119
one thing that's not there at this point

2347
01:48:57,119 --> 01:48:59,420
so um

2348
01:48:59,420 --> 01:49:03,619
I have one comment my concern is that

2349
01:49:03,619 --> 01:49:07,080
it's not a 24-hour sample

2350
01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:09,060
I mean the instructions are very clear

2351
01:49:09,060 --> 01:49:11,400
here when we draw the water sample here

2352
01:49:11,400 --> 01:49:14,880
it has to be at that lab within 24 hours

2353
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:18,000
my only concern is that okay fine you

2354
01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:20,340
came and you picked up a bottle whenever

2355
01:49:20,340 --> 01:49:24,179
and did you draw that water sample

2356
01:49:24,179 --> 01:49:27,060
on Sunday afternoon so that when it gets

2357
01:49:27,060 --> 01:49:29,280
to Stevens Point on Monday morning or

2358
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:31,619
Monday afternoon is it within the 24

2359
01:49:31,619 --> 01:49:34,199
hour period if it's longer than that

2360
01:49:34,199 --> 01:49:37,619
something could grow in that sample and

2361
01:49:37,619 --> 01:49:39,119
then you're not really getting a True

2362
01:49:39,119 --> 01:49:42,480
Result that would be my only concern

2363
01:49:42,480 --> 01:49:44,699
when you take our sample does it have to

2364
01:49:44,699 --> 01:49:46,440
be refrigerated to

2365
01:49:46,440 --> 01:49:49,139
or how do you no a regular water sample

2366
01:49:49,139 --> 01:49:51,239
does not have to be refrigerated a

2367
01:49:51,239 --> 01:49:54,119
nitrate or nitrite sample does have to

2368
01:49:54,119 --> 01:49:59,040
be on on um those dry ice because it's

2369
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:01,199
just in an insulated container and it's

2370
01:50:01,199 --> 01:50:03,540
uh sterile and then the same day we take

2371
01:50:03,540 --> 01:50:05,639
it and we take it right down to the post

2372
01:50:05,639 --> 01:50:07,320
office and I mean it's overnight the

2373
01:50:07,320 --> 01:50:09,119
onus the onus would be on the property

2374
01:50:09,119 --> 01:50:11,699
owner and make sure that sample

2375
01:50:11,699 --> 01:50:14,639
is taken when you said you took it

2376
01:50:14,639 --> 01:50:16,860
because you otherwise you may not be

2377
01:50:16,860 --> 01:50:18,540
getting a true wrist I'll be here on

2378
01:50:18,540 --> 01:50:20,100
Sunday to collect those

2379
01:50:20,100 --> 01:50:23,100
no but it sounds uh I mean Jerry's

2380
01:50:23,100 --> 01:50:24,320
letter

2381
01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:26,460
indicates not only a five hundred

2382
01:50:26,460 --> 01:50:29,340
dollars to cover the promotional cost

2383
01:50:29,340 --> 01:50:32,219
but that sounds like they our County

2384
01:50:32,219 --> 01:50:35,460
Environmental Council would assist yeah

2385
01:50:35,460 --> 01:50:38,699
they'll get the volunteers yeah I I I

2386
01:50:38,699 --> 01:50:43,739
just think it's an opportunity you know and I I

2387
01:50:43,739 --> 01:50:45,360
can't see a reason why we wouldn't

2388
01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:47,340
participate especially when all our

2389
01:50:47,340 --> 01:50:48,900
costs are basically going to be covered

2390
01:50:48,900 --> 01:50:52,139
an environmental council is willing to

2391
01:50:52,139 --> 01:50:56,149
become actively involved in it

2392
01:50:56,159 --> 01:50:58,380
so they would take it to Stevens Point

2393
01:50:58,380 --> 01:51:00,360
then they would see that we transported

2394
01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:02,639
it sounds like they're committed to this

2395
01:51:02,639 --> 01:51:04,260
program why don't we why don't we do it

2396
01:51:04,260 --> 01:51:05,940
this way as long as you're into this

2397
01:51:05,940 --> 01:51:07,560
kind of thing anyway

2398
01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:10,880
uh why don't we so are interested right

2399
01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:13,980
the 500 won't make you the point person

2400
01:51:13,980 --> 01:51:17,699
to get her in motion but I would I would

2401
01:51:17,699 --> 01:51:20,760
move there we uh the Sebastopol Town

2402
01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:23,219
Thomas basketball participates in the

2403
01:51:23,219 --> 01:51:25,860
well-watered sampling as outlined by the

2404
01:51:25,860 --> 01:51:27,960
Dark County Environmental Council yeah

2405
01:51:27,960 --> 01:51:30,239
pretty long there already okay we accept

2406
01:51:30,239 --> 01:51:35,179
the 500 as the cover promotional costs

2407
01:51:35,179 --> 01:51:40,250
and okay

2408
01:51:40,260 --> 01:51:42,060
do you think that's too much no that's

2409
01:51:42,060 --> 01:51:43,739
all right no I have it on you you forgot

2410
01:51:43,739 --> 01:51:45,300
to add and

2411
01:51:45,300 --> 01:51:47,940
Mr Weidman would be the point man to get

2412
01:51:47,940 --> 01:51:49,380
it and that could be that could be

2413
01:51:49,380 --> 01:51:56,270
determined

2414
01:51:56,280 --> 01:51:57,840
with the understanding that you're going

2415
01:51:57,840 --> 01:51:59,880
to bury the participant I'll second

2416
01:51:59,880 --> 01:52:03,010
right

2417
01:52:03,020 --> 01:52:05,400
you don't have to be the collector to

2418
01:52:05,400 --> 01:52:08,040
hear an amendment to that motion yeah

2419
01:52:08,040 --> 01:52:13,010
I'd be willing to assist in the uh

2420
01:52:13,020 --> 01:52:17,100
any other discussion comment question

2421
01:52:17,100 --> 01:52:19,920
do we need to send Mr Vista a letter or

2422
01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:21,840
what do we do here first we should vote

2423
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:24,480
on it maybe I'm asking what we're going

2424
01:52:24,480 --> 01:52:26,100
to do first

2425
01:52:26,100 --> 01:52:30,300
okay if if you have test your wells and

2426
01:52:30,300 --> 01:52:34,320
you find out what it was bad it is bad

2427
01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:45,950
what's a remedy

2428
01:52:45,960 --> 01:52:48,480
yeah our involvement is only on the fact

2429
01:52:48,480 --> 01:52:50,460
we're advertising we're going to do the

2430
01:52:50,460 --> 01:52:51,739
500 bucks

2431
01:52:51,739 --> 01:52:55,199
do the advertising and let everybody

2432
01:52:55,199 --> 01:52:56,880
know it's there

2433
01:52:56,880 --> 01:53:00,600
and if you want to participate fine

2434
01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:02,159
let's make sure that we're only the

2435
01:53:02,159 --> 01:53:04,440
vehicle and not the response yeah

2436
01:53:04,440 --> 01:53:05,880
they're sitting in the front doorstep

2437
01:53:05,880 --> 01:53:09,189
that go bad

2438
01:53:09,199 --> 01:53:11,760
okay yeah especially if it's July or any

2439
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:14,330
other question

2440
01:53:14,340 --> 01:53:16,380
all in favor of signify for saying that

2441
01:53:16,380 --> 01:53:18,719
all right opposed

2442
01:53:18,719 --> 01:53:21,910
okay

2443
01:53:21,920 --> 01:53:25,980
Roblox building claims uh January 21

2444
01:53:25,980 --> 01:53:28,199
through

2445
01:53:28,199 --> 01:53:32,239
2 24 looks like it should be

2446
01:53:32,239 --> 01:53:36,229
2014 through

2447
01:53:36,239 --> 01:53:40,490
have a motion to that effect

2448
01:53:40,500 --> 01:53:42,239
move that we approved vouchers bills and

2449
01:53:42,239 --> 01:53:43,800
claims

2450
01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:46,310
second

2451
01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:49,380
you have any questions on any of them

2452
01:53:49,380 --> 01:53:51,659
all I pay for signify for saying hi all

2453
01:53:51,659 --> 01:53:53,580
right

2454
01:53:53,580 --> 01:53:56,639
resolution number seven supplement for

2455
01:53:56,639 --> 01:53:59,159
temporary vacancies of

2456
01:53:59,159 --> 01:54:03,060
the elected officials I see were doing a

2457
01:54:03,060 --> 01:54:05,119
supplement to the

2458
01:54:05,119 --> 01:54:15,310
2013 Town

2459
01:54:15,320 --> 01:54:17,880
can I address it or

2460
01:54:17,880 --> 01:54:19,980
believe that the list of names we had

2461
01:54:19,980 --> 01:54:23,219
that were running shortly I know I was

2462
01:54:23,219 --> 01:54:25,500
bragging to all the other towns like we

2463
01:54:25,500 --> 01:54:28,400
have over 20 people on our polar worker

2464
01:54:28,400 --> 01:54:30,840
list between the party and our

2465
01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:35,580
unaffiliated however April 1st due to

2466
01:54:35,580 --> 01:54:37,199
candidates

2467
01:54:37,199 --> 01:54:40,020
or spouses of candidates and ethicals

2468
01:54:40,020 --> 01:54:42,119
and principals and all that and

2469
01:54:42,119 --> 01:54:43,340
vacations

2470
01:54:43,340 --> 01:54:46,380
and health problems

2471
01:54:46,380 --> 01:54:49,980
I'm down to just nine people

2472
01:54:49,980 --> 01:54:53,280
so I did talk to each of the people on

2473
01:54:53,280 --> 01:54:56,159
this supplemental list

2474
01:54:56,159 --> 01:54:59,159
if need be if I need to go to them

2475
01:54:59,159 --> 01:55:01,320
they are willing to work

2476
01:55:01,320 --> 01:55:06,840
so by Statute I would have to amend our

2477
01:55:06,840 --> 01:55:09,360
poll worker list so that is what this

2478
01:55:09,360 --> 01:55:11,580
supplement to the resolution does

2479
01:55:11,580 --> 01:55:14,100
okay we run a background check on one of

2480
01:55:14,100 --> 01:55:18,420
these people yeah is this a one-time

2481
01:55:18,420 --> 01:55:22,080
correct this is a one this is a one-time

2482
01:55:22,080 --> 01:55:24,119
request when you have a temporary

2483
01:55:24,119 --> 01:55:27,060
vacancy for an election it is a

2484
01:55:27,060 --> 01:55:30,000
temporary filling of those vacancies so

2485
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:32,639
one time April 1st only

2486
01:55:32,639 --> 01:55:34,440
I think everybody in the town's on the

2487
01:55:34,440 --> 01:55:36,600
list something I would move that we

2488
01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:40,159
approve resolution number seven 2013 TV

2489
01:55:40,159 --> 01:55:42,960
I hope there did all in favor say hi all

2490
01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:44,580
right

2491
01:55:44,580 --> 01:55:47,239
Frozen Let's carry

2492
01:55:47,239 --> 01:55:49,880
correspondence part of the packet

2493
01:55:49,880 --> 01:55:52,520
indicates that

2494
01:55:52,520 --> 01:55:55,800
increase cable thefts penalties in

2495
01:55:55,800 --> 01:55:59,280
Wisconsin Door County highways

2496
01:55:59,280 --> 01:56:01,679
spreadsheet listing the private drives

2497
01:56:01,679 --> 01:56:05,219
that had been plowed previously

2498
01:56:05,219 --> 01:56:07,739
so just is that can I question the

2499
01:56:07,739 --> 01:56:10,500
following okay all right is that just

2500
01:56:10,500 --> 01:56:13,020
November and December the appears in no

2501
01:56:13,020 --> 01:56:16,380
that is uh all of 2013.

2502
01:56:16,380 --> 01:56:20,159
oh January December yeah right January

2503
01:56:20,159 --> 01:56:22,040
through December

2504
01:56:22,040 --> 01:56:26,639
2013. yes okay thank you okay and the

2505
01:56:26,639 --> 01:56:28,800
other would be for the 2012 calendar

2506
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:31,320
year

2507
01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:33,780
the department of administration

2508
01:56:33,780 --> 01:56:37,280
payments for municipal services

2509
01:56:37,280 --> 01:56:41,649
and payment and lieu of tax

2510
01:56:41,659 --> 01:56:45,179
Emerald Wisconsin Emerald Ash border

2511
01:56:45,179 --> 01:56:47,219
programs

2512
01:56:47,219 --> 01:56:51,179
and two fire reports

2513
01:56:51,179 --> 01:56:54,480
January Fire Department in December and

2514
01:56:54,480 --> 01:56:57,239
Judas tonight should have been another

2515
01:56:57,239 --> 01:57:02,030
sheet to December of 2013.

2516
01:57:02,040 --> 01:57:05,580
as well we do have

2517
01:57:05,580 --> 01:57:07,980
utility updates there will be a

2518
01:57:07,980 --> 01:57:13,189
recycling day Sturgeon Bay Utilities

2519
01:57:13,199 --> 01:57:16,199
and the price list on the bottom if you

2520
01:57:16,199 --> 01:57:19,139
wish to bring your product there

2521
01:57:19,139 --> 01:57:23,810
also hotline Digger hotline

2522
01:57:23,820 --> 01:57:27,290
meeting and a

2523
01:57:27,300 --> 01:57:29,340
looks like you even get a free meal John

2524
01:57:29,340 --> 01:57:31,560
if you want to go oh breakfast lunch and

2525
01:57:31,560 --> 01:57:43,810
dinner stay all day Denmark or Marinette

2526
01:57:43,820 --> 01:57:47,719
there that we need to worry about

2527
01:57:47,719 --> 01:57:50,159
sir the clerk's going to be on vacation

2528
01:57:50,159 --> 01:57:54,540
for March 6th through the 13th what

2529
01:57:54,540 --> 01:57:56,159
we're all going to get a card because is

2530
01:57:56,159 --> 01:57:58,020
that how that works

2531
01:57:58,020 --> 01:58:00,179
at any time to write cards

2532
01:58:00,179 --> 01:58:03,540
okay the next supervisor meeting will

2533
01:58:03,540 --> 01:58:06,360
really be at the call of the chair if in

2534
01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:08,520
the event there's need for one otherwise

2535
01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:09,900
we'll

2536
01:58:09,900 --> 01:58:12,540
all right not have one spring election

2537
01:58:12,540 --> 01:58:15,060
is April 1st

2538
01:58:15,060 --> 01:58:18,420
and do we have any agenda items for the

2539
01:58:18,420 --> 01:58:20,699
next meeting

2540
01:58:20,699 --> 01:58:22,800
I'd like to see if we couldn't get the

2541
01:58:22,800 --> 01:58:25,560
fire chief erlash to

2542
01:58:25,560 --> 01:58:27,960
do some kind of a community presentation

2543
01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:31,560
on fire alarms carbon monoxide alarms

2544
01:58:31,560 --> 01:58:34,320
and the meaning of the signal in which

2545
01:58:34,320 --> 01:58:35,760
they put out

2546
01:58:35,760 --> 01:58:38,880
seems that we have an awful lot of false

2547
01:58:38,880 --> 01:58:41,699
alarms because the battery is dying in

2548
01:58:41,699 --> 01:58:44,340
this machine and it just beep beep beep

2549
01:58:44,340 --> 01:58:46,619
it's not sending off the actual warning

2550
01:58:46,619 --> 01:58:48,780
signal but people still call the fire

2551
01:58:48,780 --> 01:58:50,520
department

2552
01:58:50,520 --> 01:58:53,340
I mean a little education might help

2553
01:58:53,340 --> 01:58:55,619
save some dollars on the fire

2554
01:58:55,619 --> 01:58:57,960
department's end

2555
01:58:57,960 --> 01:58:59,940
and it'd be a good program for them to

2556
01:58:59,940 --> 01:59:01,860
put all of them

2557
01:59:01,860 --> 01:59:04,739
I do know that they do that so sometimes

2558
01:59:04,739 --> 01:59:07,500
those false alarms too are the ones that

2559
01:59:07,500 --> 01:59:12,060
have the automatic yeah they're people come in and they type the wrong

2560
01:59:12,060 --> 01:59:13,440
code or the kids are there and they

2561
01:59:13,440 --> 01:59:15,900
don't have the right code to cancel so

2562
01:59:15,900 --> 01:59:17,159
they're you know

2563
01:59:17,159 --> 01:59:19,080
but as you read the report it seems like

2564
01:59:19,080 --> 01:59:22,920
there's an awful lot of them they're smoke detector wasn't working or

2565
01:59:22,920 --> 01:59:24,719
the battery was dead and I was sending

2566
01:59:24,719 --> 01:59:27,300
out a signal to replace it well correct

2567
01:59:27,300 --> 01:59:29,340
it's just a little you know something

2568
01:59:29,340 --> 01:59:32,099
they could do Tim is always saying they

2569
01:59:32,099 --> 01:59:34,920
have nothing to do anyway so give them

2570
01:59:34,920 --> 01:59:38,219
an opportunity we'll do it I don't know

2571
01:59:38,219 --> 01:59:41,639
it'll probably have to be after uh we

2572
01:59:41,639 --> 01:59:45,239
could use the town hall here maybe

2573
01:59:45,239 --> 01:59:47,099
um maybe the annual meeting would be a

2574
01:59:47,099 --> 01:59:49,380
good time

2575
01:59:49,380 --> 01:59:52,850
draw the people here

2576
01:59:52,860 --> 01:59:54,060
all right

2577
01:59:54,060 --> 01:59:57,440
okay one uh one item of

2578
01:59:57,440 --> 02:00:01,139
interest not good news

2579
02:00:01,139 --> 02:00:03,920
for those of you who knew our previous

2580
02:00:03,920 --> 02:00:06,960
clerk treasurer

2581
02:00:06,960 --> 02:00:09,440
serve their town from

2582
02:00:09,440 --> 02:00:14,520
1996 came aboard as our treasurer

2583
02:00:14,520 --> 02:00:16,159
and then

2584
02:00:16,159 --> 02:00:18,900
elevated and elected to the position of

2585
02:00:18,900 --> 02:00:20,639
clerk treasurer

2586
02:00:20,639 --> 02:00:24,179
in April of 1997 and served through

2587
02:00:24,179 --> 02:00:25,440
March

2588
02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:28,080
of 2001.

2589
02:00:28,080 --> 02:00:30,780
Carrie sharpener by name at the age of

2590
02:00:30,780 --> 02:00:33,380
57 years

2591
02:00:33,380 --> 02:00:37,139
departed our company over the weekend

2592
02:00:37,139 --> 02:00:39,480
you uh

2593
02:00:39,480 --> 02:00:41,699
do you remember

2594
02:00:41,699 --> 02:00:44,460
her and even if you don't remember her

2595
02:00:44,460 --> 02:00:46,800
keep

2596
02:00:46,800 --> 02:00:49,739
the family in in your thoughts in

2597
02:00:49,739 --> 02:00:52,139
prayers and her son was an employee that

2598
02:00:52,139 --> 02:00:53,480
don't parked for a number of years

2599
02:00:53,480 --> 02:00:56,520
correct as well

2600
02:00:56,520 --> 02:00:59,760
in between she and her husband Frank

2601
02:00:59,760 --> 02:01:04,010
they did a lot for the town so

2602
02:01:04,020 --> 02:01:06,360
her father was also on the board for

2603
02:01:06,360 --> 02:01:07,320
many years

2604
02:01:07,320 --> 02:01:09,480
Jerry Columbus Jerry Colombo was a

2605
02:01:09,480 --> 02:01:10,860
father

2606
02:01:10,860 --> 02:01:12,900
okay do we have anything is there going

2607
02:01:12,900 --> 02:01:16,500
to be a service up here or uh I haven't

2608
02:01:16,500 --> 02:01:18,659
heard the details yet today I kind of

2609
02:01:18,659 --> 02:01:20,460
watched here in Paul I heard that but I

2610
02:01:20,460 --> 02:01:22,860
don't recall I think it's tomorrow all

2611
02:01:22,860 --> 02:01:27,109
right tomorrow or Wednesday

2612
02:01:27,119 --> 02:01:28,739
okay

2613
02:01:28,739 --> 02:01:30,780
with that sad news

2614
02:01:30,780 --> 02:01:35,510
a motion to adjourn would be in order

2615
02:01:35,520 --> 02:01:38,280
it's like a motion made in second end to

2616
02:01:38,280 --> 02:01:43,639
adjournal in favor sign I opposed