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see are they too loud

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fine is that too loud no that's good

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okay nice and loud now all right all

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right we ready yeah recording in

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progress good evening I'm Naomi Miller

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chair of the Sha select board and I am

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calling to order uh this special meeting

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on Wednesday January 15 2025 6m at Cole

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Hall and on

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Zoom does anybody have a conflict of

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interest with anything on this agenda no no good are there any public does not

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seem so so we can't get any public

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no first order after those things is

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Select board vote on the FY 26

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budget

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so okay do you want me to share the

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Excel can you share the Exel yes I'm

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going to share share the

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Excel can you fol hear me through my M

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yes go let dip it up to the

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top okay

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so when last we spoke about this on

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Monday night we had the only changes we

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um sorry to make you dizzy Public Safety

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libraries law enforcement right and we

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had bumped it up to 990,000 to be prent

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in keeping it to the 24 hours yeah yep

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so that and let me so I just want on

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that I just want to note that when we

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52 weeks comes up to basically 100,000

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exactly getting so let me just do the

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math real quick here at

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90 hours at

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$90,000 so if you divide that by 50

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$1,730

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uh divide so that would be divided by 24

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guess that would only be 72 so we're

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still not quite at 8 uh 24 hours a week

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for 52 weeks so someone were

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to like if you do the let's see I

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calculated like

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$80 per 24 hours per times off in our

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calculations fact that this has not been

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a full year

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right 80 * 24 is, 1920 that times 52 is

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just shy of 100 it's

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40 oh wow okay I don't want to get

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caught in the middle of the meeting

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saying hey we got 24 and then someone

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differently we could say this is for uh

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hours that is over the course of the

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year you know we'll just rather than say

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fiscal year of

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okay let me just erase this over

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here all right I mean it's gonna be

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different you know anyway if they do

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like overnight right yeah I just don't

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want to we get there'll be people every

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year there's someone the audience who

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finds like an arithmetic error somewhere

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topic I don't want to be we could be

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accused of like over promising what

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we're delivering but we are we' we we've

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anyway right yeah increased it and also

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we're doing something new which I think

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we need to talk to people about when

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this comes up at town meeting which is

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that Paula and the sheriff are are

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talking regularly about how to adjust

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the hours based on meeting right and

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that used to happen um not very much

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there used to be just a sort of basic he

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was filling with hours right right but

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like like I said to sheriff Gully you're

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going to know if a problem exists before

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I will they'll get the phone calls then

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I'll get the phone calls so the

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way right I think we say it the way if

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we say so $90,000 divided by 80 is

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,25 so we could just say you know for

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fiscal year 2026 we have 1125 Sheriff

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hours right rather than and so if we

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divide that by 52 that's actually 21.6

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hours a week but rather than rather than

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talk about the weekly hours maybe we

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could just say you know we have 1125

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share of hours for the year of 2026

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which is roughly 22 hours a week we

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but uh just with it and yes and that's a good way to think about because

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it will be varying there will some weeks

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when it goes under 21 and we might even

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know that you know if we need a bunch of

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like overnight shifts for some reason

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that we're going to be trimming other

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weeks coverage to to compensate for that

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s from Peter pay Paul yeah definitely

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well what was encouraging I think for

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the people on U twitchell Hill was the

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fact that there were working with the

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state police and they were feing them

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information so I think that's

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important yeah yeah we will continue to

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be doing yeah and then right after that meeting

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of the changes and him them working with

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neighbors and you're right about the

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fact that it'll move from one place to

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another well yeah yeah and I would imagine it's likely to

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67 so yeah yeah yeah no I think you're

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right Mike thank you y no problem I just

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don't want to get caught making it no

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absolutely thank that's wonderful yeah no you're right and I don't think

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100,000 I think a 100,000 would be like

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much um let me just scroll down to see

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that and that change brought us

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too right now we're at 5.9 we're just

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as as we're hearing about the other

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inflation now for 2026 that happened you

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2023 and four you know we're our budgets

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are always kind of behind the inflation

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of inflation that happened you know 12

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point yeah because we can always hope

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that inflation is going to go down now

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right the budget our budget cycle will

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guess um what what else is there

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anything else we really does anybody

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have any last thoughts about this

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budget very good good

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job thank you

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Paul to make your way through a budget

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without without anybody who has seen it

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through before at your I think is really

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quite an exerting it's just accomplish

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bunch of numbers you and Martha helped a

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lot just to go over with it and bounce

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so um and and next year it'll be like a

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with the turkey y much much

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earlier believe

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it'll amazing yeah okay um so are we

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ready to take a vote on

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this yeah yes can I have a motion to

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approve the fiscal year

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25 shaftsberry budget

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as uh presented wait this is the 26th

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isn't it I'm

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sorry yeah so that's the motion I want

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right I oh go ahead okay I'll make a

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motion to accept this uh fiscal year 26

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budget as

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written a second I'll second that thank

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you moved by Martha seconded by

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Mike any final

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no okay all in favor say I I I

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congratulations we've got a budget to

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propose to the voters good to Paula

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thank you Paula thank you thank you

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welcome okay uh other

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business anybody have anything to bring

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up at this

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no thank you Martha for Martha thank you

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for um getting those people in line and

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about about the

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information you know I yeah thank you I

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think I think we we need to continue to

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say and what I didn't think of last

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night when I or Monday night is that we

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live in a really fractured media

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environment I think that's way to say it

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and getting information to people is

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very difficult now there is not you know

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not everybody's watching the Nightly

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um doing things in kind of an analog way

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and then doing things in a digital way

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and are trying to hit and reach as many

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people as possible and you know

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especially on the digital side the town

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is doing much much more than it ever had

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know there are so many ways that you can

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get things and you know to encourage

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people to engage in a way that feels

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authentic to them and at at the moment

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but to continue to kind of encourage

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folks to to either do a social media

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thing or the front porch Forum or if

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they are you know Avid Bennington Banner

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readers that we are going to continue to

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work to try to get out um as much as we

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can in a very kind of fractured

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environment and and I think my research

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has shown that only a third of the

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population is not in touch the other

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third is in touch and then the other and

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then the top third are way ahead so yeah

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you know what what will work and she

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and also I think something that people

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leisure in the middle of the night on

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the way to and just playing the zoom you

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zoom and it's always there on our

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website so you know it's practically a

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it shacksbury I do know somebody who

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listens to it on our way to work you w

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we all have our things we

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do okay um any other other

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items I'm assuming this budget is going

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yeah yeah great and I don't know if it's

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possible to do or if it adds more money

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um in the kind of printing of the page

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but if there is a way to have like um

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lines has have I already asked if that's

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possible in the printing of things so it

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looks kind of like the Excel spreadsheet

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that is there it's very difficult to

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in I understand what you're saying

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because when I read it in the book I'm

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like why are there just it drives me

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nuts that there aren't Excel lines like

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yeah there's just spaces and so if

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there's a way you have to almost take it

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with a ruler um I think it's because the

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Excel sheet was probably changed to a PF

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and then the lines disappear I see so I

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will do my best to get lines because it

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will drive me not yeah because there's a

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way to um to put in all the lines and

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then when you print it then it's you

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know has all the lines in it and then

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maybe that goes gets converted into a

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PDF right on it

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readability yep I get

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it good um so

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at this point I would entertain a motion

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to enter executive

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session so move talk about legal issues

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not so moved thank you Mike figure how

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to do that um thank you Tony for

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seconding um and Marie thank you for

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being here when we come back we will be

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taking action if you want to you know

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hang around for it but we're going to

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mute our ourselves

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now I can put them in the waiting

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room and then that or you're going to

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have to mute and then call US no you

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can't do that