1 00:00:13,420 --> 00:00:37,320 One, it is seven o'clock. This is a special school committee meeting in between our regular meetings. The date is September 23, 2026. The main purpose of tonight's meeting is an appointment of an interim director of finance. We also have some other topics added to the agenda that have come up in the past week or two. 2 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:43,960 So first, I know it's not explicit on our agenda, but you know, in the spirit of public comments 3 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:49,780 which is, do we have a correspondence summary to read tonight? 4 00:00:50,580 --> 00:00:51,320 We do. 5 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:52,600 Okay. 6 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:53,380 Please go ahead. 7 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:54,520 One second. 8 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:55,180 Okay. 9 00:00:56,420 --> 00:01:02,280 So the school committee received six pieces, of course, one is between September 16th at 9 a.m. 10 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:08,620 September 23 at 9 am. A community member express concerns regarding the early release date change 11 00:01:08,620 --> 00:01:14,580 in November and the availability of aftercare, a parent notified the committee about a link 12 00:01:14,580 --> 00:01:22,400 not working on the school website, several community members express concern about the release of 13 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:29,420 a document on social media from school council and one community member also express concern about 14 00:01:29,420 --> 00:01:34,580 the appointment process of the next superintendent. And one of our administrators sent notice 15 00:01:34,580 --> 00:01:39,740 to the committee concerning the schedule for student services being increased during the upcoming 16 00:01:39,740 --> 00:01:46,800 next month or two. And that scores once. Okay, thank you, Alan. We will have public comment 17 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:52,960 after our first two topics tonight. And then so that's so that the public can have the benefit 18 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:58,540 of hearing what those topics are about and hearing the resume and discussion around the director 19 00:01:58,540 --> 00:02:03,800 finance, in particular, and then the vote will be after that. 20 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,580 So we have two main topics tonight. 21 00:02:07,060 --> 00:02:10,000 One is unpleasant nature. 22 00:02:10,060 --> 00:02:12,540 Shall we say the other is potentially very pleasant 23 00:02:12,540 --> 00:02:14,140 and nature will do them in that order. 24 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:19,280 So the first item on our agenda is that I want to address 25 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,740 a recent open meeting law complaint and the districts 26 00:02:21,740 --> 00:02:23,220 response to it. 27 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,920 People noticed it was posted on a local Facebook page 28 00:02:26,920 --> 00:02:31,660 then removed. We received some correspondence asking about it. I want to explain what happened 29 00:02:31,660 --> 00:02:38,100 tonight. So on August 28th, school committee received an open meeting law complaint. It was 30 00:02:38,100 --> 00:02:44,320 associated with the recent superintendent selection. And then on September 2nd, the next 31 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:49,620 bill, meeting the committee met and authorized legal counsel to respond to the complaint. The response 32 00:02:49,620 --> 00:02:56,760 letter explains that counsel conducted an internal investigation and reviewed the available documents. 33 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:02,180 interview to all seven committee members and found the committee did not violate the open meeting law. 34 00:03:02,920 --> 00:03:07,660 This included a legal analysis and finding that the agenda for the July 29 meeting 35 00:03:07,660 --> 00:03:12,440 complied with open meeting law. It also included a finding based on interviews with committee 36 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:17,920 members and review of the documents that no improper deliberations occurred outside the meeting. 37 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:23,880 Last Friday, Council submitted the response on behalf of the committee. Council submitted 38 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:28,940 the letter to the office of the Attorney General as required. The complainant got a copy. I got 39 00:03:28,940 --> 00:03:36,020 a copy and I forwarded copies to the rest of the committee that afternoon. Council has confirmed 40 00:03:36,020 --> 00:03:42,260 that the letter became a public record upon submission to the Attorney General last Friday. 41 00:03:43,300 --> 00:03:49,020 I shared the response publicly on Friday because I knew it had shown up on our agendas. I knew 42 00:03:49,020 --> 00:03:50,640 the public was interested in that. 43 00:03:51,020 --> 00:03:53,100 And I felt it was important to share 44 00:03:53,100 --> 00:03:54,860 the findings like I'm doing now. 45 00:03:55,540 --> 00:03:58,040 Unfortunately, there was an email address, 46 00:03:58,300 --> 00:04:02,040 included in the letter from the, for the complainant. 47 00:04:02,380 --> 00:04:04,700 I thought it was a business email address 48 00:04:04,700 --> 00:04:07,000 and it is publicly available elsewhere, 49 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,020 but I now understand that didn't matter 50 00:04:10,020 --> 00:04:11,680 and it should have been redacted 51 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,300 before it released the same way we redact 52 00:04:14,300 --> 00:04:16,040 email addresses and other contacts. 53 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,880 I would never intentionally release 54 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:26,140 personally email address without authorization. I had no malintent and I really sincerely hope 55 00:04:26,140 --> 00:04:33,140 it didn't cause any hardship. I regret it happened. When I became aware of my error, I immediately 56 00:04:33,140 --> 00:04:39,220 asked that the document would be taken down from Facebook and it was taken down that same meeting. 57 00:04:39,940 --> 00:04:45,060 I know this raised questions about if the district protects school records. I also understand 58 00:04:45,060 --> 00:04:50,220 this comes at a time of extraordinary scrutiny for school committee. I can assure everyone the 59 00:04:50,220 --> 00:04:56,300 district respects family privacy. No student information was shared and that was this was 60 00:04:56,300 --> 00:05:04,000 solely my error. I promise to make sure any question about a document's readiness to share publicly 61 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:15,040 goes to Council first in the future. So this is really about me acknowledging my mistake and 62 00:05:15,700 --> 00:05:21,790 letting the public know exactly what happened, but if any committee members want to 63 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:27,430 discuss it or ask any other questions, this is also an opportunity to do that. 64 00:05:33,610 --> 00:05:36,650 Yes, Georgian, let me. 65 00:05:37,150 --> 00:05:37,890 I got it. 66 00:05:37,970 --> 00:05:38,030 Okay. 67 00:05:38,030 --> 00:05:38,510 I'm good. 68 00:05:38,810 --> 00:05:39,330 Thanks. 69 00:05:40,570 --> 00:05:45,410 Well, I appreciate the explanation and that new kind of owning the messed up. 70 00:05:46,290 --> 00:05:47,370 I guess, 71 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,520 although I appreciate it, I don't really feel good about the fact that it happened. 72 00:05:53,840 --> 00:05:54,620 I'm a little confused. 73 00:05:54,660 --> 00:05:59,760 I think there's a process once things become public like that. 74 00:05:59,980 --> 00:06:04,640 We've just actually recently had a discussion about this that there should be a FOIA request for any public documents. 75 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,940 We as school committee members should not be sharing things out from our email. 76 00:06:11,540 --> 00:06:17,000 So it's no secret. There's a lot of things going on and there's not a lot of trust in this committee right now. 77 00:06:17,580 --> 00:06:23,640 And it certainly felt like an intentional move to kind of say face. 78 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,980 I don't know how well so I can kind of feel about it because this has never happened. 79 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:32,060 We don't even usually get these dispositions in the email. 80 00:06:32,060 --> 00:06:35,440 So I'm going to be honest, when I got it, I was like, why am I getting this in an email? 81 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:38,040 And my time on this committee, that's never happened. 82 00:06:38,220 --> 00:06:42,680 I have to like, when Obby was cherished to make him crazy calling him, asking him for updates. 83 00:06:46,230 --> 00:06:50,210 So although I really do sincerely appreciate you all in this Dan, we all make mistakes. 84 00:06:51,250 --> 00:06:58,550 I'm still having a hard time questioning the whole why the whole thing would you play, why you would think that was okay. 85 00:07:00,870 --> 00:07:08,010 just it's not sitting right and it's done and it's over with and I appreciate you only 86 00:07:09,650 --> 00:07:16,120 it I'm sorry to the person it happened to and you know but so the public knows 87 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:23,480 moving forward the correct processes they should be making a records request for public documents we 88 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:28,520 should not be handed them out is that correct because I think that's going to be the big question 89 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:29,200 Georgia 90 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:49,640 Can I get to an email? Can I just be like, hey, you know, you wanted to know about this? Can I hand it out? Or is there a formal process that we all should be following? I think that's the question that I'm going to get 2,000 times over. So I'd like a definitive answer here while we're alive if you wouldn't mind. And then I'm going to just leave it there because I don't want to worry you. Thanks. 91 00:07:49,640 --> 00:08:00,100 Yeah, that's completely fair Georgian and I agree I guess what I would say is there are some 92 00:08:00,100 --> 00:08:06,020 of those questions I don't feel comfortable answering because I just don't know or you could 93 00:08:06,020 --> 00:08:10,840 get a better response from Council and I really encourage anyone to ask Council if you have 94 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:19,220 specific questions but I'll just say that the context of this is I get a very this is not 95 00:08:19,220 --> 00:08:35,280 This is not excuse. I'm just explaining. I get a very large number of documents from Council, as Chair, asking for basically authorization to send it out, file something, 96 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:44,680 this was my first instance of an open meeting law response. I've never experienced that before. 97 00:08:45,700 --> 00:08:49,680 public records, we've been doing lots of those, so those come and go all the time. 98 00:08:51,860 --> 00:08:59,120 When I discussed with Council, my understanding was, we filed it, it's public and, you know, 99 00:08:59,580 --> 00:09:03,940 you can send it to the committee and if they want to release it, they can too, because both that was not accurate. 100 00:09:05,140 --> 00:09:14,220 So it was my mistake, I misunderstood, and I guess I'm not sure how to answer the question because there are so many 101 00:09:14,860 --> 00:09:20,440 public documents that we all understand their public, like all of our policy documents and 102 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,960 you know, agendas and stuff that you can share with the public. You just got to make sure, 103 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:30,620 and I didn't make sure, and that was my error. So I guess I'm just not sure how to like 104 00:09:30,620 --> 00:09:34,610 delineate, you know, what you can share and what you can't, but maybe our council would be a better 105 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:40,080 person, or maybe some of our other committee members can fill it in, but yeah, Adam. 106 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:46,600 I mean, I guess to that question, I would just distinguish between something that's publicly 107 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:47,260 available. 108 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:54,100 So kind of routing someone to our policy, policies online or something else that's in a public 109 00:09:54,100 --> 00:09:59,820 place and providing a document that is not publicly available. 110 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:07,780 And I guess I'd raise my hand to follow up on what Georgian had said, I think also as we 111 00:10:07,780 --> 00:10:13,900 as FOIA requests, we have a, at the very least, an internal process that we follow, where 112 00:10:13,900 --> 00:10:18,820 the request is handled by the records officer. And so I think even as we, as we get 113 00:10:18,820 --> 00:10:25,500 or even if we get a formal records request, I would say the committee members should not be 114 00:10:25,500 --> 00:10:29,860 responsible for fulfilling that themselves other than maybe to point to something that's publicly 115 00:10:29,860 --> 00:10:34,200 available. But that should go through the records request or the records officer. 116 00:10:38,980 --> 00:10:39,460 Obviously. 117 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:50,400 Yeah, just to Georgia at this point in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, um, reference that 118 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:55,360 when I was chair, um, in Georgia, you didn't drive me crazy at all asking for those things, 119 00:10:55,720 --> 00:11:00,480 um, but yes, you, you, you always had to ask for things and I would always just make sure, 120 00:11:00,580 --> 00:11:05,340 especially when it came from Council that I was, um, authorized to disseminate that there 121 00:11:05,340 --> 00:11:10,480 are times where Council provides the chair with, with information and says, hey, we need 122 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:15,520 of meeting in order to provide that information, there are times where they say, please disseminate 123 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:21,700 this out to Council. I mean, sorry, out to the rest of the committee, either way anything 124 00:11:21,700 --> 00:11:27,180 provided to the chair would be something that the rest of the committee was able to see, but 125 00:11:27,180 --> 00:11:31,640 there are, in my experience, there were just different processes at different times the council 126 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:37,840 asked me for. As far as the overall question that George Ann is asking, my understanding, at least 127 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:42,540 my directive, since the day I joined the committee for our council was always exactly what 128 00:11:42,540 --> 00:11:48,160 George and understands it to be, which is that just even if it's legal, it's just a 129 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:53,420 clean, much cleaner process if everybody submits a FOIA request or a public record request 130 00:11:53,420 --> 00:12:02,180 because I think the problem of fairness to the people asking for it is a question of access 131 00:12:02,180 --> 00:12:07,320 who has access to ask someone directly, why in some cases would we provide something directly 132 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:08,960 to someone in other cases, not. 133 00:12:09,420 --> 00:12:16,300 So for sure, just my understanding was, and my practice personally was always to, as Adams 134 00:12:16,300 --> 00:12:20,420 said, point people to where something is publicly available, or direct it to our public 135 00:12:20,420 --> 00:12:26,000 records officer for a former request, and that was true for a document that had to be created. 136 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,780 It was also true for a document that was readily available in my drive. 137 00:12:30,140 --> 00:12:34,860 I just always was told, it's just the cleanest and fairest way to make sure that everybody 138 00:12:34,860 --> 00:12:40,740 as the same access, you know, and so I do think like obviously, you know, you stayed here 139 00:12:40,740 --> 00:12:46,640 yourself, Dan, that you would handle was differently in the future, I think that, you 140 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:51,600 know, everybody has the right at every parent in this district, every person, you know, 141 00:12:51,740 --> 00:12:56,300 every journalist, every, and any person who's asking us for something has the right to feel 142 00:12:56,300 --> 00:12:59,900 that they're being directed to the exact same process, and we're treating everybody the same. 143 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:09,680 Yeah, absolutely, and I think the part of where I went wrong is that I have always been 144 00:13:09,680 --> 00:13:15,560 so eager to just respond to anybody, whoever contacts me or I'm aware of wants documents 145 00:13:15,560 --> 00:13:20,060 to just, you know, get them what they need and most of the time that worked out fine, but 146 00:13:20,060 --> 00:13:26,320 this time it didn't, and I made an error, and I agree with everybody that it's a much better 147 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:31,320 process to just write everything the same way and be clean and what won't happen again. 148 00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:32,580 Okay. 149 00:13:34,300 --> 00:13:36,460 I appreciate it. 150 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:42,380 And I'm sorry to distract from the main topic tonight, which is much more important 151 00:13:42,380 --> 00:13:45,480 than me is getting a new finance director. 152 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:48,160 Okay. 153 00:13:48,560 --> 00:13:54,820 So Dr. Battello, I think we have a, are you planning to do, 154 00:13:54,820 --> 00:14:01,000 What is your plan for tonight? I know you've been working behind the scenes to facilitate this hire. 155 00:14:01,300 --> 00:14:08,460 I was planning to share my recommendation for a hire for a new interim finance director. 156 00:14:08,780 --> 00:14:18,820 Her name is Brenda Moynihan. She's worked the last eight years as the assistance superintendent for finance and operation in the content public schools. 157 00:14:18,820 --> 00:14:27,900 She retired at the end of the year, but as we've spoken with her, and she is willing to jump out of 158 00:14:27,900 --> 00:14:33,100 retirement in order to work with us for the remainder of the year. She's got a tremendous amount of 159 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:42,900 experience in all layers of finance, as well as operations itself, and I think it's considering 160 00:14:42,900 --> 00:14:50,240 the timing and the birth of bindings directors were very fortunate to have someone who's willing 161 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:57,580 to teach them about retirement and work with us. So I would like to recommend it for hiring 162 00:14:57,580 --> 00:14:59,020 and that's for your vote. 163 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:12,720 We all have a copy of the resume that you distribute to Dr. Patel. I hope everybody has had a chance to review it, but are we allowed to share the resume or not, or we don't know. 164 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,400 Or should we just discuss it? 165 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,860 Yeah, I think we should just discuss it and check with, 166 00:15:23,310 --> 00:15:25,450 okay. Yes, Georgian. 167 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:35,700 Thanks. Dr. Patel, I just really want to thank you. I know you've been working tirelessly to fill this position for her idea reasons. 168 00:15:35,700 --> 00:15:42,720 So I'm glad that you were able to locate someone that's willing to come out of retirement to get us through this time. 169 00:15:43,020 --> 00:15:44,680 So I just wanted to recognize. 170 00:15:45,500 --> 00:15:47,380 I know how hard you've been working at this. 171 00:15:48,380 --> 00:15:49,060 So thanks. 172 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,280 I enjoyed the resume. 173 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:53,880 I think it'll be a good fit for now. 174 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:56,520 So I appreciate it. 175 00:16:01,540 --> 00:16:03,680 Does anyone else have any questions or comments? 176 00:16:06,910 --> 00:16:07,450 Yes, Adam. 177 00:16:09,850 --> 00:16:19,270 I also just thought it was a very strong, strong resume, strong candidate, so I think we are, 178 00:16:19,270 --> 00:16:24,690 I don't know, I'd be very supportive and very pleased that we were able to find someone at this 179 00:16:24,690 --> 00:16:25,250 calmer. 180 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:40,380 Yeah, I don't want to be redundant, but I just as bugged you chair, I guess I felt like sitting 181 00:16:40,380 --> 00:16:45,140 here quiet was probably maybe perhaps strange, I especially, I think it's a strong candidate, 182 00:16:45,140 --> 00:16:51,140 I appreciate. I go through a Jamestead. I'm going to talk to Patel. I appreciate how hard you've worked. 183 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:56,900 Look, you know, speaking of multiple candidates in order to get somebody in here who's willing to take this task done. 184 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:03,160 And for me, I know that the budget subcommittee has been waiting for this position. It will be filled before meeting. 185 00:17:03,620 --> 00:17:13,960 So I especially, I'm eager to get this higher on board and get ready. You know, the timing is obviously it would have been better. 186 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,520 the start of the school year, but certainly at least we haven't let a full month go by, 187 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:23,680 and we can get meeting right away on a budget process. I think that just want for folks 188 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:28,560 that are here from the public to hear that my goal as much chair will be to have some agendas 189 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:34,900 early on that focus on format and presentations so that that way as we onboard a new person, 190 00:17:35,060 --> 00:17:41,960 the public will have an opportunity to influence how it is that we go about presenting to the committee 191 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,980 and what those graphics and what not look like. 192 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,860 I think the same thing for Fincom obviously is an opportunity to bring them in and have some 193 00:17:49,860 --> 00:17:54,140 discussions really early on about what format we're presenting budget items in. 194 00:18:00,540 --> 00:18:09,440 And I know that Dr. Battello has been going to extraordinary lengths to identify and bring 195 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,940 on candidates for this much needed position. 196 00:18:11,940 --> 00:18:18,480 And there's a lot of, there's a lot of things that people are working miracles, keeping things 197 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:19,280 running right now. 198 00:18:19,340 --> 00:18:23,820 But it's on a skeleton crew, and we really desperately need this position, and it sounds 199 00:18:23,820 --> 00:18:27,120 like you've identified a good candidate, Dr. Patel, so I'm supportive. 200 00:18:30,540 --> 00:18:36,780 Do we have a motion to authorize higher of the, for the finance director position? 201 00:18:36,780 --> 00:18:38,100 Don't move. 202 00:18:38,180 --> 00:18:39,420 It's back in. 203 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:42,360 Georgian? 204 00:18:43,060 --> 00:18:43,280 Yes. 205 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:44,240 Adam? 206 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:45,780 Yes. 207 00:18:46,460 --> 00:18:46,740 Harvey? 208 00:18:48,140 --> 00:18:49,100 I mean yes. 209 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:50,840 Alan? 210 00:18:51,580 --> 00:18:51,780 Yes. 211 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:55,360 I'm sorry, did I skip anyone? 212 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:56,320 Yes. 213 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,320 Yes, I thought I skipped you. 214 00:18:58,380 --> 00:18:58,600 Julie? 215 00:18:59,620 --> 00:18:59,820 Yes. 216 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:01,300 And I mean yes. 217 00:19:01,500 --> 00:19:03,900 The motion passes 6-0. 218 00:19:04,820 --> 00:19:06,860 And now we have our public comment. 219 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,520 Do we have any public comments today? 220 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:17,160 we're going to as usual limit them to three minutes and I will take them in the order. 221 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,580 I see them and I can keep time today. 222 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:30,640 Okay. Yes, Ms. Crosby. 223 00:19:32,300 --> 00:19:36,840 Hi. A couple of things. You just went out of order on your agenda. The vote was supposed to be 224 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:41,660 after public comment, which might have actually made it seem like you had sort of maybe kind of learned 225 00:19:41,660 --> 00:19:44,440 about transparency, but never mind. 226 00:19:45,540 --> 00:19:47,560 I wanted to point out, thank you, I'm sorry. 227 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,620 You can't, no, you took the vote. 228 00:19:49,820 --> 00:19:50,080 It's done. 229 00:19:50,620 --> 00:19:55,220 I wanted to point out that your comments earlier 230 00:19:55,220 --> 00:19:57,460 do not ring true for multiple reasons. 231 00:19:57,660 --> 00:20:01,020 First, you claim that you looked at the email address 232 00:20:01,020 --> 00:20:03,040 and thought it was a business email address 233 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,460 and that that was okay. 234 00:20:04,980 --> 00:20:07,320 The email address was comprised of a first name, 235 00:20:07,540 --> 00:20:10,620 a last name, a number at gmail.com. 236 00:20:10,620 --> 00:20:16,280 I'm really curious how many businesses you know have email addresses of that nature. 237 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:24,600 I also note that you very intentionally handed this to somebody who runs a 7,400 person 238 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:31,220 Facebook group comprised of Sharon's citizens to suggest that it was in oops is really 239 00:20:31,220 --> 00:20:38,660 to strain crudulity and let's be clear it absolutely was intended to intimidate the person 240 00:20:38,660 --> 00:20:46,220 filed, but not just the person who filed. Anyone else who has dared to speak out against 241 00:20:46,220 --> 00:20:54,100 how this committee has behaved. It's shameful. It also very ironically violates your own social 242 00:20:54,100 --> 00:21:01,180 media use by school committee members' policy, policy BK. In item number 5 of the policy, 243 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:06,700 it says school committee members should post only content that the district has released through 244 00:21:06,700 --> 00:21:16,020 proper channels to the public. Using a cutout in the form of the administrator of the social media group who's 245 00:21:16,020 --> 00:21:20,280 clearly your very close friend, because no way that person knew that this had arrived in your 246 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:28,700 inbox and had it within like 30 minutes, to get it posted, to try and make the five of you look 247 00:21:28,700 --> 00:21:34,040 better than you do is 100% against that policy. 248 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:35,980 You should resign. 249 00:21:37,380 --> 00:21:40,460 On top of that, your next vote on media engagement 250 00:21:40,460 --> 00:21:42,420 is completely unnecessary. 251 00:21:42,740 --> 00:21:44,940 Because you also have a policy on that. 252 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,460 And your policy explicitly says that the chair 253 00:21:48,460 --> 00:21:52,220 of the school committee will be the spokesperson for the committee 254 00:21:52,220 --> 00:21:55,060 except as this duty is delegated to the superintendent. 255 00:21:55,060 --> 00:21:58,740 So you literally do not have to take that vote. 256 00:21:59,260 --> 00:22:03,880 It exists in an existing school committee policy. 257 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,200 What I might suggest, it's policy KDD, 258 00:22:07,940 --> 00:22:11,180 is that every single member of the five 259 00:22:11,180 --> 00:22:14,260 who seem to have a very fragile relationship 260 00:22:14,260 --> 00:22:16,500 to the policies of this district, 261 00:22:16,540 --> 00:22:19,300 despite some of them having significant longevity, 262 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,300 take the weekend to read your policy book. 263 00:22:23,300 --> 00:22:29,960 But Dan, don't pretend that this was a mistake, don't pretend that you didn't. 264 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:36,220 We didn't know better. You worked for the government. Just stop lying. It's embarrassing to everybody. 265 00:22:40,620 --> 00:22:49,340 All right. It is absolutely correct that we don't have to take a vote on the item later to authorize a chair, 266 00:22:49,980 --> 00:22:59,880 but I thought it was appropriate to get the buy-in of the committee on this item, given its significance to the committee. 267 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:03,400 So I think it's appropriate to discuss it 268 00:23:04,620 --> 00:23:06,400 and formalize it in the sense. 269 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,960 I'm not sure how much I should say, 270 00:23:13,700 --> 00:23:14,920 but since this is on the agenda, 271 00:23:17,460 --> 00:23:25,160 the email address is posted on a state government 272 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,060 website as a business address. 273 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,900 I don't know if that was the same context 274 00:23:30,900 --> 00:23:35,800 as was in the document, 275 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,650 but in either event, it was certainly not proper for me to 276 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:50,860 go outside the normal channels. So that's just explanation, of course, the complainant didn't 277 00:23:50,860 --> 00:23:56,920 do anything wrong by any means, and it was my error either way. I'm just just answering the question. 278 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:05,320 And I do take exception to comments about intent because there was no malitan on my 279 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,200 party. It was there was an error, a bad one but an error. 280 00:24:11,610 --> 00:24:13,150 Yes, Jessica, why not? 281 00:24:20,890 --> 00:24:26,070 I have a question. Can I make it come a public comment about something else or is it only about 282 00:24:26,070 --> 00:24:33,950 the items on the agenda this evening? Is it related to school business? Yes. Okay, please go ahead. 283 00:24:33,950 --> 00:24:44,550 Okay, so my issue has to do with the manner in which it feels that these committee item agendas or decisions are rushed. 284 00:24:46,210 --> 00:24:59,450 I spoke previously about the school committee and how the next superintendent was picked and my next or most recent issue is with regards to the policy that is looking to be changing the policy meeting. 285 00:24:59,450 --> 00:25:06,710 And it was sent with 28 hours notice that there's a meeting tomorrow at 5. 286 00:25:07,450 --> 00:25:12,390 The school committee published a calendar in February or March, I apologize. 287 00:25:12,550 --> 00:25:19,610 They don't have the date on hand with open house for all three elementary schools being at 530 tomorrow. 288 00:25:19,890 --> 00:25:26,290 So I'm not sure why tomorrow had to be picked at the scene date and time for an important meeting like that. 289 00:25:26,290 --> 00:25:34,950 But it doesn't seem fair or inclusive or responsible to be having parents make a decision 290 00:25:34,950 --> 00:25:39,270 in terms of choosing to go to open house or this meeting, that's being held tomorrow. 291 00:25:39,390 --> 00:25:45,190 So I would recommend that you revisit and possibly change the meeting date. 292 00:25:45,250 --> 00:25:46,410 So thank you for listening. 293 00:25:48,730 --> 00:25:48,890 Okay. 294 00:25:49,510 --> 00:25:50,270 Thank you. 295 00:25:50,330 --> 00:25:55,930 We'll make sure that consideration is routed to the proper channels. 296 00:25:56,690 --> 00:25:56,950 Yes. 297 00:25:56,950 --> 00:25:58,570 Rachel Dan. 298 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:06,280 Hello. I'm not sure that it's really a good form to be referring to 299 00:26:06,980 --> 00:26:13,200 school committee policies as the most publicly available information. It is, but that 300 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,480 means that we all know three of the current school committee members were members when 301 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:24,160 the last policy CBB was revised, but they did not follow their own policy in this last 302 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:31,580 process of appointing a new superintendent. So why are we, you know, adhering to a 303 00:26:31,580 --> 00:26:36,380 or why are you referencing people, referring people to publicly available policies that the 304 00:26:36,380 --> 00:26:43,360 authors are not even following? I'm also concerned about why we are so desperate for 305 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:49,360 an administrator in the finance position. Why do we have a skeleton crew? Why are we in this 306 00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:55,240 position where we have such administrative turnover, you know, your teachers, your teachers 307 00:26:55,240 --> 00:27:00,320 and your for the long haul, we kind of have no choice, but we do really want to be here. 308 00:27:01,180 --> 00:27:07,060 Why are we so desperate to hire people for administrative positions, which by the way, also 309 00:27:07,060 --> 00:27:12,660 change titles frequently to fit the needs of a certain contract? Thank you. 310 00:27:18,190 --> 00:27:24,210 Thank you. Okay, seeing no further public comments. We did, oh yes, go ahead, Georgian. 311 00:27:24,810 --> 00:27:34,450 Sorry, can we Dr. Metallica, can we just clarify for the public the finance person was already you already know to fight people who are higher on that. 312 00:27:34,490 --> 00:27:37,110 This is like procedural for us to approve it, correct? 313 00:27:38,270 --> 00:27:42,550 No, the school committee has the authority to hire the finance director. 314 00:27:43,030 --> 00:27:43,750 So I'm not ending. 315 00:27:44,530 --> 00:27:49,710 Okay, but a announcement was made to the teachers that one was already hired. 316 00:27:50,110 --> 00:27:51,130 So I'm confused now. 317 00:27:51,290 --> 00:27:52,190 But by whom? 318 00:27:53,170 --> 00:27:54,950 It was in the email I was told. 319 00:27:55,310 --> 00:27:57,090 Okay, that's almost hard. 320 00:27:58,350 --> 00:28:00,950 Um, I just wanted to make sure we're on the same page. 321 00:28:01,270 --> 00:28:01,910 Because now I'm confused. 322 00:28:02,310 --> 00:28:03,190 Okay, thanks. 323 00:28:04,330 --> 00:28:07,130 No, we had a system director of finance that we wrecked, 324 00:28:07,630 --> 00:28:09,330 which was the duty thousand position, 325 00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:10,590 which was hired. 326 00:28:10,610 --> 00:28:12,190 I think that's probably where you're talking about. 327 00:28:13,390 --> 00:28:14,650 Maybe I'll follow up. 328 00:28:14,750 --> 00:28:16,170 And if, maybe I'll just email you. 329 00:28:16,290 --> 00:28:16,530 Thanks. 330 00:28:17,110 --> 00:28:17,370 Yep. 331 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:30,900 Yes, Harvey. 332 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:33,400 Thanks, Ian. 333 00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:38,400 I was going to ask, and obviously, you know, 334 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,320 due lead of the policy, so committee chairs, so you're right. 335 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:42,880 But as a member of the policy, so committee, 336 00:28:43,260 --> 00:28:45,840 we did receive an email to our email address 337 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,460 about the conflict of the open house. 338 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,320 I don't know that there's a sense of urgency 339 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,420 or a reason for an urgency regarding the specific policy 340 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,980 that we'd be discussing, and so I would, 341 00:28:57,180 --> 00:28:58,540 as a member of the policy committee, 342 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,440 I do think that there's a logic to rescheduling that meeting. 343 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:13,080 I think the purpose, I know I was asked if, you know, how late of an evening I could make it and that was unfortunately the latest I could do, so I might have been part of that timing issue. 344 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:19,800 But certainly the purpose was to be as available to the public as possible in the night of open houses, unfortunately, I'm thinking that's true. 345 00:29:20,460 --> 00:29:29,660 So unless there's a reason not to, I guess I just would say, having heard from people, let's not exacerbate the pain we're causing and let's reschedule that meeting. 346 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:39,440 Julie, are you prepared to answer that already? You want more time to consider it and discuss with Edmund? 347 00:29:42,870 --> 00:29:43,390 Sorry. 348 00:29:46,150 --> 00:29:52,070 I just want to say one thing which is I think the meeting noticed it go out last Friday. 349 00:29:53,210 --> 00:29:59,970 What went out today was the draft of the policy. I too saw a couple of emails today. 350 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:29,780 I understand it is true that the priority in setting a subcommittee meeting is the availability of the other members of the committee, and then in this case several members of the public have repeatedly asked to hold subcommittee meetings in the evening, and so that's why it was a five o'clock and five o'clock this Thursday was the date that we picked. 351 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:39,840 I apologize. I did not know it was the elementary school open houses. I unfortunately know 352 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:45,760 all of them have an elementary school student. So it was on my radar. So I apologize 353 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:52,240 and Adam, if you are okay with this too, I can definitely have the meeting reschedule. 354 00:30:55,500 --> 00:31:02,320 I'm upon reschedule. Okay. Well, but both of you guys have to text me back with when I text 355 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,840 your availability. So if it's a deal. 356 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,580 That's fair, let's fair. 357 00:31:11,340 --> 00:31:13,600 Okay, thank you everyone for your responsiveness. 358 00:31:16,350 --> 00:31:21,870 Okay, having already voted on the finance director position. 359 00:31:22,950 --> 00:31:24,250 I'll be at out of order. 360 00:31:25,070 --> 00:31:26,850 We now have a vote. 361 00:31:27,550 --> 00:31:28,430 I'm sorry. 362 00:31:29,030 --> 00:31:29,490 I just can't. 363 00:31:31,630 --> 00:31:32,750 I'm sorry. 364 00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:35,010 Oh, Georgian has a hand up. 365 00:31:35,010 --> 00:31:42,830 Sorry, I just wanted to apologize to Dr. Telet was the assistant position, it was there's some confusion. So thank you. 366 00:31:47,800 --> 00:32:00,820 So we now have a vote to authorize the chair to work with district administration and council to respond to any media increase related to the 10 22 26 special time meeting. 367 00:32:01,860 --> 00:32:06,940 I guess it's true that we have a policy that authorizes the chair to speak with media. 368 00:32:07,620 --> 00:32:13,280 I just wanted to bring it to the group because we all know this is an event that's significant 369 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:23,120 all of us and I have heard from a town that has experienced this before that either right before 370 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:30,800 or right after this meeting media can take an interest and often when they reach out to you 371 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:57,380 The email says it's 330 p.m. right now and I'm running a story and please get me any comments you have by 430 and that doesn't really leave a lot of time for a school committee meeting and I didn't feel comfortable and it would be good to have some sort of a statement ready so that we can actually participate in these news stories in a constructive way. 372 00:32:57,380 --> 00:33:05,480 So, I ask Council about it, you know, so we agreed to just put on the agenda and talk about it, 373 00:33:08,690 --> 00:33:18,590 but basically it would authorize us to develop a standard type statement to respond if we got those kinds of 374 00:33:18,590 --> 00:33:20,110 increase on very short notice. 375 00:33:21,150 --> 00:33:23,250 Do anyone have any comments or questions? 376 00:33:27,380 --> 00:33:27,960 Yes, Georgian. 377 00:33:29,260 --> 00:33:36,200 Thanks, um, as you were reminded me on many occasions, so there's your per view, I share to address the press. 378 00:33:36,580 --> 00:33:39,700 I think it was mentioned you don't need our permission. 379 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:49,740 With that said, given this last transgression, I have some serious concerns about you being the person to do that. 380 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,760 So, I really don't know what that leaves us, because that is your, I guess that's for you 381 00:33:55,760 --> 00:34:00,740 an atom to figure out, but I did want to say that out loud and it's unfortunate that 382 00:34:00,740 --> 00:34:03,840 that's where I'm at, but that is where I'm at right now. Thanks. 383 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,460 Well, that's where it is. 384 00:34:12,030 --> 00:34:16,870 I'm happy to include Adam in the process, if that helps. 385 00:34:20,690 --> 00:34:23,290 As a as a co-equal contributor. 386 00:34:24,650 --> 00:34:25,070 Yes, Adam. 387 00:34:26,750 --> 00:34:31,590 of the same. I'm having to be included in the process. I think as I've shared with you, 388 00:34:32,470 --> 00:34:39,730 I'll not be available immediately before or after the special time meeting, so I won't be 389 00:34:39,730 --> 00:34:43,890 in a position where I'll be able to be responsive if there is a media inquiry. 390 00:34:44,690 --> 00:34:53,130 Okay. I think the idea was to develop a statement that's kind of ready to go, so maybe we can 391 00:34:53,130 --> 00:35:01,950 that in advance. Okay. Do we want to take a photo or just kind of rely on the existing policy 392 00:35:01,950 --> 00:35:02,650 them? 393 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:14,740 Okay. Can I just, oh, sorry. Can I just add one more thing? Yes. Whatever get said or 394 00:35:14,740 --> 00:35:19,880 record, I just want to make sure that we're protecting the integrity of the records officer 395 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:26,060 because that didn't get brought up and I apologize on it to bring up earlier with an email going out 396 00:35:26,060 --> 00:35:29,080 not going through that process, I feel like it draws 397 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,880 undue spotlight to Dr. Johnson, who is the records officer. 398 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,120 So I want us to be very mindful that we have our eyes 399 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,680 dotted in our T's crossed moving forward with anything. 400 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:42,140 Thanks. 401 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:46,240 Thank you, Georgian. 402 00:35:48,750 --> 00:35:48,990 OK. 403 00:35:50,130 --> 00:35:53,050 If there is nothing else, I would entertain the motion 404 00:35:53,050 --> 00:35:54,430 to adjourn. 405 00:35:54,430 --> 00:35:57,700 Tell me if it's back in. 406 00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:00,520 Julie. 407 00:36:01,260 --> 00:36:01,720 Yes. 408 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:02,620 Adam. 409 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:04,180 Yes. 410 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:05,280 Alan. 411 00:36:05,980 --> 00:36:06,280 Yes. 412 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:07,060 Georgian. 413 00:36:07,940 --> 00:36:08,360 Yes. 414 00:36:09,420 --> 00:36:09,720 Abby. 415 00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:13,420 Oh, do we lose Abby? 416 00:36:14,340 --> 00:36:14,940 And I am, yes. 417 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,340 So motion passes five. 418 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:16,840 Zero. 419 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,080 Thank you everyone for joining this special meeting tonight. 420 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:21,540 Good night.