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Good morning. Today is your regular meeting of the Shasta County Board of Supervisors.

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It is Tuesday, May 27th, and the time is 9:00 a.m. We have all board members present

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along with CEO Dave Rickert, County Council, Joe Larmer, and from the clerk of the

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board, Stephanie Blankenship and Marcy Weinstead. We encourage those wishing to participate

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in public comment. Fill out a speaker request card and submit it to the clerk of

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the board's table set up in the foyer with Ms. Winstead. Speaker request cards for

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the items on today's agenda will be submitted to the clerk of the board before public

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comment period begins for each item turn things over to Ms. Blankenship. Thank you.

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Through the chair, I would like to remind everyone in attendance today of the boardroom

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rules of order as outlined in Administrative Policy 1101. Those can be found through

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the clerk of the board's website. This policy includes signage restriction, attendee

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seating, and overall conduct to ensure business is done in an orderly fashion and

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that all have an equal opportunity to observe and participate. Unless addressing

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the board, all those in the audience shall remain sitting in the chairs provided.

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Standing along the back wall of the boardroom is acceptable so long as no person

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blocks the ingress or egress. Media representatives may stand and use equipment to

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record proceedings in the area designated by the CEO near the South windows. Chester

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County remains committed to conducting orderly business in a professional and. Environment

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for anyone wishing to participate, attend, or otherwise engage with the Shasta County

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Board of Supervisors. We kindly ask that all attendees adhere to these rules. I'd

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like to also make a brief announcement regarding chamber capacity and public comment

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procedures. The maximum capacity for this room is 90 people with 62 fixed seats.

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leave the chambers before the meeting adjourns, we kindly ask that you surrender

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get in queue here to my left, and thank you for your cooperation with that. I'll

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turn things back over to you, Chair. Thank you, Ms. Blankenship. At this time, I'd

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like to ask you to please stand for the invocation led by our pastor from the Anderson

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Seventh Day Adventist Church, as well as Shasta Lake Bible Fellowship, and please

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remain standing for the pledge led by Supervisor Kelstrom.

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Let us bow our heads for the word of prayer. Gracious and almighty God. We gather

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here today in a spirit of service and responsibility. We thank you for the opportunity

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to lead. To guide and especially to shape the well-being of our communities.

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Bless each member of this board of supervisors, the staff, the guests, and the presenters

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today. Bless them, Lord, with wisdom, discernment, and compassion as they carry out

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their duties. Grant them clarity of thought, unity of purpose, and strength of character.

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May their decisions be rooted in justice, fairness, and the common good. Help them

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to listen well. Speak kindly and act courageously. Lord, we ask your presence in

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this meeting today. May this room be filled with productive dialogue. Respectful

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collaboration. And the shared vision and commitment as we continually serve your

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people. May your name be glorified today. We pray all these things in the powerful

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name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. May your name be praised forever. Amen

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and amen. Thank you.

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To the flag of the United States.

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No. One nation, for God, indivisible liberty.

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Thank you, Pastor. Thank you, Supervisor Kelstrom. With that, we're gonna move on

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to our one, adopt the resolution which recognizes Patricia Patty Devine, senior social

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worker of the Health and Human Services Agency as Shasta County's Employee of the

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Month for May 2025. Supervisor plumber.

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Yes, I am gonna go ahead and read the resolution and to congratulate Patricia Devine.

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Uh, whereas the Board of Supervisors of the County of Shasta has adopted the Shasta

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County Employee recognition program to identify exceptional employees who deserve

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to be recognized and honored for their contribution to county service, and whereas

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such recognition is given to employees meeting the criteria of the program, namely

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exceptional customer service, professionalism, high ethical standards, initiative,

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innovation. Teamwork, productivity, and service as a role model for other public

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employees. And whereas the Shasta County Employee Recognition Committee has considered

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all current nominations for the Shasta County Employee of the Month. Whereas Patricia,

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Patty Devine started her career with the Shasta County as an eligibility worker won

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in May of 2022 and has quickly advanced to her current position as a senior social

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worker within the Health and Human Services Agency Adult Protective Services Unit.

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Patty manages to take on a full-time caseload while also training new employees until

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they are able to go out into the field. Patty is also known to take time out of her

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busy day to help staff with difficult cases and provide guidance to her colleagues.

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Community partners have stated that Patty is easy to work with, helpful, passionate

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about the work that she does and is knowledgeable during presentations. When adult

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protective services supervisors are unavailable, Patty steps in to lend a helping

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hand and is adaptable to the constant changes and challenges of the department. Within

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the course of Patty's employment, she was assigned to one of the longest adult protective

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services cases the department has seen. While working on the case, Patty was patient

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and kind, making sure that her client's needs were being met and despite the barriers

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encountered and despite the barriers encountered, even though it can be a stressful

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environment, Patty is clear and concise during difficult conversations and remains

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calm while assisting even the most upset clients to the best of her ability. Patty

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understands the complexities of being empathetic while setting boundaries with her

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clients and excels at creating and maintaining respectful professional relationships.

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Patty arrives to work each morning with a smile and greets everyone around her with

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a positive attitude. Patty is compassionate towards those that she interacts with

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daily and takes time to notice when an individual needs a bit of additional kindness.

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Patty demonstrates health and human services, core values of collaboration. Adaptability,

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respect, and excellence, both internally and externally, as she continues to work

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with her peers, community partners and clients. For the reasons stated above, the

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Employee recognition Committee recommends Patty Devine, senior social worker in the

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Health and Human Services Agency, be selected as the employee of the month for May

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2025. Now, therefore, be it resolved that Patty Devine, senior social worker in the

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Health and Human Services Agency, is here by name Shasta County Employee of the Month

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for May 2025. And I will make a motion to adopt this resolution.

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Blankenship, do we have any public speakers?

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Sure, we do not. Is Christy coming out? We're gonna take a, yeah,

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uh, uh, uh, OK, come on up.

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Good morning. Um, good morning, Chair Cry and members of the board of supervisors.

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I'm Christina Black, the HHSA deputy branch director for Behavioral Health and Social

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Services. It's an honor to stand here before you today. Thank you so much for recognizing

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Patty Devine. Um, she's our senior social worker. For Shasta County Adult Protective

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Services as employee month for May 2025, Patty began her career with APS in April

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of 2023 as a social worker, excuse me, as a social worker. She quickly promoted to

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a senior social worker in March of 2024. This is a reflection of her dedication,

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professionalism, and exceptional skill set. She's a natural leader who leads by example.

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She communicates clearly and consistently celebrates the successes of her coworkers.

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Her co-workers describe her as a joy to work with and appreciate her positive attitude.

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She arrives each day with a smile on her face and never hesitates to offer kindness

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when someone needs it the most. In her current role, Patty plays a key part in onboarding

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and mentoring new staff. At one point, she has successfully onboarded 4 new team

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members, simultaneously ensuring each were well. prepared to serve in the field.

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Her compassion extends beyond the workplace. She demonstrates the same level of care

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and empathy with her clients as she does with her co-workers. Patty has managed numerous

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complex cases, including various forms of abuse, including challenging conservatorship

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situations as well. She consistently ensures her clients' physical and emotional

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safety, meeting them where they are in life. With an open mind and without judgment.

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Whether it's providing resources, addressing concerns, or simply offering a listening

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ear, she goes above and beyond to make her clients feel heard and validated. In addition

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to her primary responsibilities, she is always willing to step in and support her

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team. She is well spoken and has delivered many presentations in the community. More

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recently, she served as a panelist for Reading Restart. Addressing the sheltering

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of seniors in our community, we are fortunate to have Patty on the APS team outside

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of work. She is a cyclist, a runner. She enjoys spin class. She enjoys pickle ball,

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working out, and most of all spending time with her family. Congratulations, Patty,

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on this well deserved recognition.

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We'll go, we'll go ahead, go ahead and take that vote and supervisor plumber you

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can head down all those in favor I pass this 50.

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Could we invite Patty in

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I want to present you, Patty with this certificate. As well as some awards that we

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want to extend to you. So a Shasta County Rosewood pen, $30 gift certificate donated

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by the department head forum, $20 gift cert gift certificate donated by the sheriff's

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Administrative association, $50 gift certificate donated by the Teamsters Local 137.

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$25 gift certificate donated by the Teamsters Local 137. Another $25 gift certificate

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donated by the Teamsters Local 137 $25 gift certificate donated by the board of supervisors,

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and a $25 gift certificate donated by the United Public Employees of California UPAC.

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So thank you again for your contributions and thank you donors. Patty,

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Patty, you want to say a few words? Yeah, um, so, so thank you for all that came

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to support me in this. Um, I, I love my team. I love um the leadership that we have

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on our team as well. Um, I love my job. I love serving the aging community in Shasta

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County and um I consider myself very lucky to be doing that. So, so thank you for

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this huge honor and thank you for um making it such a special day for me.

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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Thank you, Supervisor Plumber. Moving on to RR2, receive an update from the county

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executive officer on county issues and consider action on specific legislation related

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to Shasta County's legislative platform and receive supervisors reports on county-wide

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issues. CEO Ricker. Good morning, Chairman Crime, members of the board of supervisors,

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Dave Ricker, County Executive Officer reporting. On Friday, May 16th, I spent an

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hour with HHSA leadership staff while they conducted all day financial training with

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expert consultants Leanne Link and Tracy Tedder. I found the information well presented

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and focused on key goals established by the CEO's office and the interim HHSA director

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Christy Coleman. Moving on to federal matters on May 14th, the US House of Agricultural

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Committee advanced a key item for counties by including language to reauthorize the

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Secure Rural Schools program in its portion of its portion of the reconciliation

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package. As you may recall, on April 8th, she asked the county to send a letter of

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support for Bill 1383, Secure Rural Schools Reauthorization Act of 2025. This demonstrates

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that our efforts along with others have impact on our legislature. This concludes

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my report. Thank you, CEO Rickert. We'll start to my left with supervisor Long.

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Thank you, Chair Cry.

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board report consistent with our policy affecting our community, our whole community

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of a substantial nature. I met with the Fire Safe Council, a couple of members on

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that, and also received a letter from a constituent that lives in District 2, and

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they were all discussing. FEMA money that has come through McConnell that it will

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go toward fuels mitigation reduction on the west side. And I had met with Vestra

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for this project back in October, and it sounded like the funds were going to start

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being released to start reducing fuels in our community for a fire hazard and apparently

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that's been hung up a little bit. I'm not sure exactly why that is yet, so that's

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going to be my next steps to take, which is see if I can help expedite the release

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of these funds to. To get some of the, the fuels reduction mitigation on some of

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the private property which is south of 299. So that concludes my report. Thank you.

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Thank you, Supervisor Long supervisor. All right, uh, on the 15th, I was at the Fallen

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Officers Memorial with a few of the other supervisors here, and then, uh, Thursday,

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Friday, and Saturday night, you could have found me at the Reading Rodeo all three

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nights. Um, and then on the 19th, on Monday, we had a Battle Creek watershed meeting

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in Manton. Um, I'll be bringing something at the end of my report here about that.

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Um, they're dismantling all the powerhouses all the way down the Battle Creek Canyon

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and um. So we had a meeting on Monday and then on Tuesday evening, we had another

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meeting uh up in Manton again. Um, I went to that after I'd gone to the CEC windmill

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meeting for the Hatchet Ridge project. And on the 21st, I went to an Anderson High

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School board meeting that I was invited to, but the door was locked when I got there,

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so apparently I was 10 minutes early. I don't know, reached out to somebody that

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didn't know anything about it, so I went home and I guess they did have a meeting

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after all. The 22nd I with Supervisor Long. We attended the wildfire mitigation meeting.

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Um, on the 24th, I did a Memorial Day celebration in Manton again, um, stopped, had

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lunch at Shingletown before I went to the Happy Valley Strawberry Festival. I also

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went to the Strawberry Festival the next day where I was a judge in the car show,

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and then uh yesterday I missed the IO Cemetery, um, Memorial Day event because I

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was speaking at the Anderson VFW Memorial Day event with Doug Walfo. Um, so what

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I want to bring is the, the watershed up in Battle Creek. Um, there Taking the dams

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out, they're taking the powerhouses out to restore the fish habitat, which is all

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great and good and fine. And um I've been going to these meetings for about 2 years

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now. In fact, I did a story with Mike Mangus here about 68 months ago. Um, my concern

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though is, uh, the water starts at North Battle Creek Reservoir. It's stored there.

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There's no power powerhouse there. There's just it's water storage, then it goes

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down into Camp McCumber and Lake McCumber there. Um, the residents around Lake McCumber

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now have realized that their whole lake is threatened, as is North Battle Creek Reservoir.

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Two ditches in between take water to Grayson Nora Lake, which, uh, apparently the

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PGE is filling back up, which surprises me. But I'd like to bring forward, I'd like

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to put it on the agenda and bring forward to the board, um, to send a letter to the

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Department of Interior, um, that we need to maintain, repair, and save the two dams

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at North Battle Creek Reservoir as well as Lake McCumber. So I could do it by myself

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as a District 5 supervisor. But I, I think it would hold more water with the entire

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board. So if we can get that on the agenda and one of the next agendas, I'd like

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to do a letter of support for that. That concludes my report. Do you want that to

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be the like the, the soonest possible or is there a specific date? Uh, as soon as

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possible, yeah, OK. Do I need to make that put down a motion? No, no, thank you.

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Harman.

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Good morning. Uh, on the 15th, uh, I went to the, along with the other supervisors,

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the fallen officers Memorial at the old courthouse on the 16th, uh. flipping pancakes

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at 5 a.m. I was pretty sure there wasn't gonna be anybody but there, but I was surprised.

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They started showing up at 5 a.m. so I put more pancakes than I ever flipped in my

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life, probably more than I'll flip in the rest of my life. But it was great, it was

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great to see the the community come out support of that. And then, uh, on the 17th,

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I think I mentioned this last time we had the barbecue at the ranch for the California

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Deer Association. We have a program for handicapped. Kids to, to be involved in hunting,

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it's pretty. It it's pretty uh. Um, I don't know, heartfelt. They have, they have,

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they go through a lot of effort to make sure these kids can get out there and do

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what they normally wouldn't be able to do other than this group of, of. Oh,

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they have special equipment for them to get, to get them out there, number one, and

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then they, and even uh it's just, it's just amazing to watch what people. Uh, will

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do, will go out of their way to accomplish to and and to watch the smiles on these

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kids' faces is amazing. On the 20th went to the uh Red Lion. The

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CEC, the California Energy Commission. Um, board was there and we, uh, listened to

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them. Pretty much all tell the same story we've told, which is no to the wind farm.

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I'm still not sure. I asked council how come we're still talking about it, but we're

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still talking about it so

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but be assured that we're going to keep pushing as hard as we can to make sure that

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doesn't happen. Um And then the most important thing I did in the last two

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weeks was The Memorial Day yesterday, if you've not, if you've not ever had a chance

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to attend the IO uh Veterans Cemetery, it was, it was pretty impressive. There's

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uh One of the, one of the high schools had a, had a band band there and the different

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ones that got up and spoke was uh I actually have a copy of the. Of the uh memorial

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service, if anybody has any interest in seeing who is all there, there was quite

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a list of um important people in our community that are that support and I think

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there's somewhere along the lines of close to 10,000. Uh, graves there for. Veterans

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with a piece of property on the other side of the road that'll that'll take another

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25,000 in in our future. Hopefully we won't need those, but. Um, that concludes my

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report. Thank you. Thank you, Supervisor plumber. Thank you and good morning Pablo.

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Uh, was able to attend a multicultural event in Shasta Lake and ended up, um, which

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I didn't necessarily expect, becoming the MC for that, so but it was, uh. Uh, what

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was fun is that we saw, um, residents in Shasta Lake and around the county from probably

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about a dozen different countries, and, and so to see kind of the diversity there

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representing their different cultures was, uh, uh, a kind of, you know, a fascinating

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experience, um, had a number of, uh, items related to, uh, uh.

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What's happening in Visalia. So I did a trip down there, uh, last week where I was

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able to visit the three health systems and this is related to our three, and talk

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to them about their residency programs. They made a big push back in 2010, 2013,

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and so I was able to meet with the three health systems and then on the way back

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up, um, also met with, um, UCSF Fresno, which is in kind of on the way to

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becoming a medical school, uh, there's some nuance there. Uh, and talk with their

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vice dean who was responsible for starting, uh, Kaiser Permanente's Medical School

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and then met with a private medical school, uh, in Clovis, which is right outside

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of Fresno, um, CHSU California Health Sciences University, and so that was really

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helpful. Uh, I won't get into too much of the content of that because we'll be talking

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about that in our three, but, uh, what I will say is that it's, uh, it was very helpful

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to talk with people who have been on the same journey that were headed down. And

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learn from their experiences, understand kind of where the challenges are, where

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the opportunities are, um, and so that was really valuable and a big thanks to the

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team at, um, on the Visalia Board of Supervisors, particularly supervisor Amy Shulian,

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um, who helped set up that trip. And also got to talk with them because when I was

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talking to them about this trip they mentioned that they were doing some interesting

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things in terms of their health care within the jail and so talked with their team

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there uh about how they are um facilitating delivery of health services to uh county

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inmates and learn some things that are different from how we're doing it, not necessarily

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that we should adopt those, but it was a good kind of point of reference to explore.

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The other thing that I wanted to mention is that I've talked with two individuals

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over the past two weeks about different proposals that they're putting forth in terms

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of addressing homelessness, and I think that is, uh, you know, I love to see that

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people are coming forward to, um, bring innovative approaches and related to that

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I'm on the mental health, alcohol and Drug Advisory board and. Um, that board just

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approved, uh, in the innovation dollars, uh, an effort around suicide prevention,

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which is something I've talked, uh, quite a bit about since, uh, January and so I'm

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excited to see that go forward in terms of addressing, uh, you know, basically teaching

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resilience and skills, uh, for young people so that they're able to, um, find alternatives

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to dealing with stressors rather than self harm. And so excited to see if that will

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uh be successful. I think you know some, and I would just encourage the community

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if you have ideas and you wanna get active in addressing these problems to come forward,

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there is uh some innovation dollars still remaining in the Mental Health Services

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Act, um, and, uh, that will be changing as of next July when the Mental Health Services

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Act becomes the Behavioral behavioral Health Services Act so we kind of have this

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window where there's. Still those innovation dollars so just an encouragement to

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to get involved and the last thing I'll say is that we're also continuing to look

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for additional mental health, alcohol and drug advisory board members and specifically,

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uh, according to the bylaws they need to meet certain requirements and we're specifically

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looking for someone under 25 and then an educator. So if you know someone who might

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be interested and who fits those criteria would encourage them to uh apply for that

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position. Thank you. Thank you, Supervisor Plumber. Um, I'll just highlight a couple

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of things here that haven't already been spoken, but I do want to, uh, extend a big

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thank you, uh, on behalf of myself to the Reading City Council. I see that council

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member Danuk is here, so I'm very appreciative that you guys got that deal done,

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uh, for the rodeo. So that, uh, was very positive. Um, had a meeting this last week

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with uh nation's finest around our veterans, uh, homelessness initiative that supervisor

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Plumber originally brought forward. That's going in a really great direction. Nation's

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finest is now at the table. They are the largest facilitator of veterans services

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in Shasta County, so they're looking very forward to being a part of this process

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and doing a lot of the work they've been doing for years. We had I had a meeting

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with the district attorney. And a constituent around uh victim restitution, and that's

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gonna be something that I'll be talking about more in the future. At a youth options

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meeting, we said goodbye to Caitlin, who has been our three-year student rep. So,

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uh, youth Options is going to be looking for a new student rep and They have uh there's

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very, very big shoes to fill because she's great and is going off to college. So

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without going to all the other things, I will say, I will have again the CEC meeting

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we had at the Red Line. It was mostly just for public comment. There was only one

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commissioner in person. I believe there was. I mean, every commissioner had somebody

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there uh from their staff, maybe a senior analyst or public relations person, but

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I think they're getting that message loud and clear that we don't want the wind farms

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here in Shasta County, so hopefully that will continue with that. That concludes

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my report. We will move on to our 3.

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While Ms. Blankenship pulls that up, I'll read it what's in the agenda here. Take

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the following actions. Receive a presentation from healthcare consultant Chris Street.

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2, consider findings regarding establishing a medical school and residency program,

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and 3, consider providing direction to staff. Mr. Street, great. Well, thank you

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for inviting me today as your uh healthcare consultant. Um, I was retained to identify

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Shasta County medical needs and provide solutions with long-term. Uh, sustainable

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capital plan, um, today we are fortunate to have Doctor Danuca who helped me in this

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process. Um, also we have, uh, Doctor James Postman, uh Posma who is the chairman

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of the board of Simpson University, and, uh, Doctor John Ayabe, who's the provost

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of uh Simpson University that helped me in this process.

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I guess I'm gonna use the button, no.

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Technology.

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Perfect. There we go. OK, um, so, uh, I, I think what drove this process is there

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was a lot of concern in the in the community and among supervisors that there was

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not enough primary care coverage uh for doctors in Shasta County, so I, I took a

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look and conducted a needs assessment. Variance analysis to primary care physicians

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and the basis of that analysis was the 2022 medical needs uh data analysis produced

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by Dignity Health North. Um this is required under the Patient Protection Act. Um,

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to be produced every 3 years, it justifies the nonprofit status of hospitals, and

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their reported primary care physician coverage was

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180.5.5 being someone working part time for Shasta County. To

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him it was 119.2%, and California on average was 147.3. Um, and this is built

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off a 100,000 population, um, and what I found was there was about 123%, um, uh,

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the 180 would be about 123% coverage in Shasta County versus the state of California.

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So in my analysis, and this is a little difficult because part of Dignity's footprint

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goes into Northern Tehama County, but, um, what we found is a 64% deficit um

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from uh what was the number of primary care. Positions in Shasta County, the demand

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for the area, um, per 100,000 it would be about a 61% deficit, but with

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the other little community it's about I I found about a 64% deficit. Versus state

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of California, um, so in taking a look at this, I took a look at the current strategies

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and how you know we we're really addressing physician coverage and of course our

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biggest effort was in residencies and looking at the um uh the the national residency

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matching rates you see Reading Mercy and Regional, we had a quota of 10. We this

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is I believe in 23, this is the most recent data, a quota of 10, we match seven and

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we have three shortfall, all of which are in primary care. Now if you look at the

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university hospitals um such as UC Davis, USC, Stanford, what you're gonna find is

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they have a very high quota and, and they generally have a uh a full match, um. So

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you also have Shasta community here. They have, I believe, 8 residencies, but all

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those are filled with international students, you know, Caribbean graduates. I think

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that's not the same as what we're really looking for, but in looking at our population,

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about 180,000, are we getting a fair amount, a fair quota. For residencies of Shasta

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County, my analysis found that we're about 0.5% of the population, and so if you

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divide that through by the number of residencies, we're actually being treated pretty

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fair. Now one of the bigger issues for Shasta County, of course, is that we have

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older physicians. Almost a third of our physicians are 62 and older, and that's a

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big issue because doctors generally retire nationwide on average at age 62. Um, so

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if, if we're, if, if we're say gaining 6 positions and that's very optimistic that

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people would take their residency here in Shasta County, you know, come from an urban

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center, take their residency here, and actually stay, but let's just say 6 of the

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9 stay that it would take us 33 years to basically cover the shortfall. Now you know

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people have ideas on telemedicine and this was a big push, especially in areas like

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in Tulare County, I think a supervisor plumber was down there. um, telemedicine was

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a big push in 2015, 2016, um, unfortunately it. With such a big push that it

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ran into all kinds of numbers of fraud and issues and the office of the Inspector

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General, the US Inspector General for I believe Health and Human Services found that

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there was a 7% telehealth fraud. In the data he analysis analyzed, which is about

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60 billion annually, there's there was an effort in 2023 to extend

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telemedicine and build on the base that is stuck in committee since in the Ways and

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Means Committee since 2023, and nobody believes it's going out. I think we even have

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Christy Coleman here who would confirm that. So you know the third issue is um uh

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what about specialty uh physician coverage. So specialty physician coverage, I took

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a look at it, um, uh, and unusual to California, the average age.

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Uh, in Shasta County it's 41.7 versus California's average age of 37.6% and over

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20% of Shasta County, um, residents are aged 65 or older. So if you look at this

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and you realize that seniors, you know, spend about $11,300 a year on health care

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versus say someone 18 to 34 spends 2 to 3000. Um, you're in a situation where we

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have very, very low coverage and we have very intensive need. So, um, uh, understanding

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it takes 7 to 10 years of postgraduate training and a high cost 250,000 or more um

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to become a doctor, essentially rural America has 20% of population and 10% of physicians.

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Um, for Shasta County and, and this is true, almost let's say 60 to 80 interviews.

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I came to the, the number I think we have a shortage in specialty care needs of 30

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to 54 positions, and I've laid them out as best I can. Now this is personal interviews.

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This is general understanding for people who are in this position and Doctor Danica

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is here who can, I, I, I think. You know, it gives some sense that these are pretty

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fair numbers of what we need right now. Um, taking a look at analyzing the idea of

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a medical school in Shasta County. Um, and, and this would be, there are two types

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of medical schools. There's allopathic, which are MD degrees, and then there's osteopathic,

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which are DO degrees. Both are recognized medical doctors. Both are highly respected,

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and there's many people I'm sure in the audience here who have a DO. Um, so taking

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a look at this, what about the idea of to address the rural physician shortage, doing

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recruit, educate, and return. And the idea would be, you know, what would it cost

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to do a medical school? What would it be like if Shasta County took its position

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of being the sort of hub and supporting the spokes of 14 counties because everything

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we know about Shasta County, shortage in primary care physician and shortage in specialty

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care physician is much more intense than the other counties. So you know, you've

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got an advantage here you want to get a 5 acre plot in an urban center that's 10

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to. $20 million you want to get a 50 acre rural location um with existing utility

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access is maybe a million dollars and if and if we were to build a medical school,

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this would be such an economic driver for the area. I think you could get the land

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donated. That's my belief. So what about Shaston Medical School, um, fully accredited,

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um, the difference is for an allopathic doctor or an MD doctor, they tend to focus

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on research. Um, and, and the scientifically based uses of medications and surgery,

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whereas the DO doctor, a doctor of osteopath tends to have more of a holistic approach,

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um, and both are highly respected, both would serve our needs. I went on a road trip

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to Western University in Lebanon, Oregon. This is a mill town that that went from

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about 19,000 people down to 11,000 people built a medical school. They're back up

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to 19,000. They built a second school, a school of physical therapy. They awarded.

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7 doctors of osteopathic medicine, 47 doctors of physical therapy, they're moving

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from a 55 acre spot to a 132 acre spot where they're partnered with the Linbot Community

409
00:38:05,945 --> 00:38:12,264
College district, and they're building a bigger campus. Um, they're a small rural

410
00:38:12,264 --> 00:38:18,949
town punch above its weight. This school is in the top quartile for primary care

411
00:38:18,949 --> 00:38:24,949
in the United States. Most university hospitals in California do not have that honor.

412
00:38:26,149 --> 00:38:32,058
I did an analysis, a quick analysis of Um, with the time and the cost to put these

413
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schools together, obviously 100 students for a DO school is a much smaller effort,

414
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and one of the problems with building a medical school is you have to put up a large

415
00:38:45,003 --> 00:38:50,959
escrow account because nobody wants you to start a school and not finish it. So um

416
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for a DO school that's 30 million for an MD school that's 50 million. Look at the

417
00:38:56,031 --> 00:39:03,209
process, this is very. What's the right way to say profitable, very lucrative uh

418
00:39:03,209 --> 00:39:10,078
in intuitions for schools. Um, and this is what we'd be looking at, you know, uh,

419
00:39:10,083 --> 00:39:16,011
Western University comp entering class of 2024. Wouldn't that be great if that was

420
00:39:16,011 --> 00:39:22,709
our entering class in the next couple of years? Um, I have a presentation from Doctor

421
00:39:22,709 --> 00:39:23,011
Hall.

422
00:39:38,001 --> 00:39:43,002
Hi, everybody. My name is Norm Hall. I'm serving as president of Simpson University

423
00:39:43,002 --> 00:39:50,006
in my 8th year. In the university's 105th year, and it's a delight to come to you

424
00:39:50,006 --> 00:39:56,001
by video. I'm sorry I'm not with you personally because I had prior travel engagement

425
00:39:56,001 --> 00:40:00,939
with our denominational annual meeting on the East Coast. And nonetheless, I want

426
00:40:00,939 --> 00:40:05,689
to share with you that we've had tremendous momentum at Simpson University in recent

427
00:40:05,689 --> 00:40:10,077
years with the growth in our degree completion program. You've probably heard about

428
00:40:10,077 --> 00:40:16,679
the the recent North State Promise where we, uh, where we set up 50% off tuition

429
00:40:17,179 --> 00:40:22,129
for anybody that's wanting to transfer over from the junior colleges in our region,

430
00:40:22,669 --> 00:40:28,027
but more importantly recently on top of our excellent reaccreditation and our growth.

431
00:40:28,639 --> 00:40:36,051
I was approached by um uh representatives from the county of Shasta asking if I'd

432
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be interested in exploring the idea of a medical school and in fact I am it's uh

433
00:40:42,669 --> 00:40:48,929
we are where we at Simpson University, you're uh thoroughly accredited uh well established

434
00:40:48,929 --> 00:40:53,719
institution here in the North state, your hometown university. We're excited about

435
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:59,000
exploring this notion of a medical school. I know that Mr. Chris Street has just

436
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:04,008
given you a presentation which I'm sure was impressive. And now we need to turn our

437
00:41:04,008 --> 00:41:10,012
attention to. Uh, funding, uh, partnerships with hospitals and special accreditation

438
00:41:10,012 --> 00:41:16,052
opportunities, so I've agreed to partner with uh Doctor Paul Danua to take the next

439
00:41:16,052 --> 00:41:22,629
step in exploration of this, uh, very exciting idea. I hope that you have a great

440
00:41:22,629 --> 00:41:27,719
conversation tonight and you know you can count on us if it can be done, uh, we'll

441
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,679
get after it. Uh, hope you have a great meeting. Thanks everybody.

442
00:41:36,084 --> 00:41:40,086
Can I take you take some questions, please, because, uh, Doctor Deuca wanna, uh,

443
00:41:40,949 --> 00:41:45,007
Doctor Nua, would you please come forward? I think that'd be great. Doctor Deuca

444
00:41:45,007 --> 00:41:50,189
can is is a leader in the health care community here. He's been incredibly helpful

445
00:41:50,189 --> 00:41:55,086
to me, um, you know, a really dedicated person to our community. We are very fortunate

446
00:41:55,086 --> 00:41:57,011
to, uh, welcome him.

447
00:42:00,659 --> 00:42:06,087
Thank you, Mr. S Street. Thank you supervisors, CEO Rickard and Mr. Street, and Dr.

448
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,053
Norm Hall for all your hard work and dedication.

449
00:42:12,959 --> 00:42:19,007
What we face today are immense challenges, shortage of doctors and healthcare access,

450
00:42:19,008 --> 00:42:26,083
shortage of well-paying jobs, crisis of mental health and addiction. But I say

451
00:42:26,083 --> 00:42:32,709
that within those challenges lies an opportunity that presents itself for once in

452
00:42:32,709 --> 00:42:39,005
a lifetime. The question in front of us is, can we seize the moment? Can we rise

453
00:42:39,005 --> 00:42:45,087
to the occasion? Can we train our doctors and other healthcare workers locally?

454
00:42:47,003 --> 00:42:54,689
Can we ignite an engine? Of a new engine of economy that will bring wealth and prosperity

455
00:42:54,689 --> 00:43:01,052
to our citizens. Can we build an institution that will grow organically and expand

456
00:43:01,052 --> 00:43:08,083
exponentially. And will have a lasting impact. For the centuries to come. Can we

457
00:43:08,083 --> 00:43:15,489
do that? I ask all of you. And I say that we can. Because what we need.

458
00:43:16,001 --> 00:43:19,689
is right here, right here. Bold vision

459
00:43:23,005 --> 00:43:29,008
Our firm determination to see it through courage to dream and make it a reality.

460
00:43:29,085 --> 00:43:36,129
We have it right here in you, in you, and all of us. So we can do that.

461
00:43:37,006 --> 00:43:42,479
Our community is a very kind community. We live in a very kind community. You have

462
00:43:42,479 --> 00:43:46,052
been very generous to me personally and my family. They've given me everything I

463
00:43:46,052 --> 00:43:47,959
need and more than I deserve.

464
00:43:50,189 --> 00:43:56,479
I am absolutely honored to play my part in this endeavor. And I'm fully committed

465
00:43:56,081 --> 00:44:04,035
to do whatever is necessary to see it through. That is why we have started assembling.

466
00:44:05,087 --> 00:44:13,006
A community group of dedicated doctors and Eminent educators so

467
00:44:13,006 --> 00:44:20,889
that we can craft a strategy. And we can engage with the Stakeholders across our

468
00:44:20,889 --> 00:44:25,929
state. And strong partnerships can be built. For this endeavor.

469
00:44:29,159 --> 00:44:35,629
Because it will take a village, it is a big effort. It will take time. It will take

470
00:44:35,629 --> 00:44:39,062
all of our effort. It will take the whole village to do this, so we will need all

471
00:44:39,062 --> 00:44:47,025
of us. But I say that our work, what is our work, our work

472
00:44:47,025 --> 00:44:54,035
is to teach. Our work is to heal. Our work is to teach how to heal.

473
00:44:56,037 --> 00:45:03,078
I invite all of you. To start this journey with faith. With a high aim,

474
00:45:03,939 --> 00:45:11,389
bold ambition. and unwavering resolve. With God's grace we shall work together and

475
00:45:11,389 --> 00:45:16,078
we will bring an institution that will become an inspiration for our generations

476
00:45:17,007 --> 00:45:22,054
and will become a destination for the nation. May God be with all of us. Thank you.

477
00:45:26,056 --> 00:45:26,077
Yeah

478
00:45:28,469 --> 00:45:31,479
So we'll open, we'll open for questions. Does anybody have any questions, as this

479
00:45:31,479 --> 00:45:35,979
is, uh, oh, do we have, we have public comment, Stephanie? Mr. Street, don't you

480
00:45:35,979 --> 00:45:41,025
go ahead and take a seat, we'll take public comment. So Doctor Paul Danuka was actually

481
00:45:41,025 --> 00:45:45,081
our first speaker. I don't know if he wants to come back up. I think he's good, yeah.

482
00:45:47,679 --> 00:45:52,056
Then next we have David Halligan followed by Dolores Lucero, followed by Leslie and

483
00:45:52,056 --> 00:45:56,679
then Eris. How many do we have? If I called your name, please get in queue. We have

484
00:45:56,679 --> 00:46:03,899
4 speakers, so they'll get 3 minutes each. Thank you. Good morning board. Mr. Street,

485
00:46:03,909 --> 00:46:08,001
that was quite the presentation. The numbers, I mean, it's gonna take me a week or

486
00:46:08,001 --> 00:46:12,054
two to digest those things. I don't know when the board received this packet because

487
00:46:12,054 --> 00:46:18,399
I didn't see it available online for this meeting today, so. Uh, just want to remind

488
00:46:18,399 --> 00:46:23,669
everyone that Mr. Street is the gentleman that had a CEO offer rescinded on April

489
00:46:23,669 --> 00:46:29,949
6th of 2023. In fact, it was a 5-0 vote to rescind that offer. Mr. Cry, Mr. Kelstrom,

490
00:46:29,959 --> 00:46:35,729
you were part of that vote. I don't know the reasons why, but, uh. Anyway, it must

491
00:46:35,729 --> 00:46:41,004
have been something very relevant. I do. Thank you. I am aware that this presentation,

492
00:46:41,009 --> 00:46:49,005
a lot of it has already been presented to the city council on 121 of 25, and I believe

493
00:46:49,005 --> 00:46:54,159
there were some other presentations maybe to a Reading Rotary group as well. So,

494
00:46:54,037 --> 00:47:01,037
uh, the presentation on the state of the uh medical uh providers as well as the possibility

495
00:47:01,037 --> 00:47:09,008
of a medical school here in Shasta County. Um, it just appears that these were all

496
00:47:09,008 --> 00:47:14,082
presented free and very much appreciated to this county and to these organizations,

497
00:47:14,083 --> 00:47:22,001
but not to us today. Today's offer was $40,000 to present this offer and in fact,

498
00:47:22,159 --> 00:47:26,083
Mr. Lamour at one of the meetings when this was being discussed, he said, hm, yeah,

499
00:47:26,949 --> 00:47:33,459
it probably should have went out to an RFP, but but it didn't, and to me, um. Uh,

500
00:47:33,006 --> 00:47:39,052
just, it's another display of cronyism of, of you, Mr. uh Kevin Kry rewarding your

501
00:47:39,052 --> 00:47:45,032
buddy Mr. Street and not sending this out for others to review other organizations

502
00:47:45,032 --> 00:47:50,029
that are really given a lot to this community and continue to do so. The bid should

503
00:47:50,029 --> 00:47:55,389
have gone out. It was the right thing to do and it's about doing the right thing,

504
00:47:55,479 --> 00:47:56,076
gentlemen, thank you.

505
00:47:59,989 --> 00:48:00,034
Thank you.

506
00:48:05,034 --> 00:48:08,479
Sorry, Dolores Lucero, followed by Leslie, then Eris.

507
00:48:12,061 --> 00:48:13,479
You have

508
00:48:16,037 --> 00:48:21,003
First thing I like to say is I feel sorry for those veterans who fought for our country.

509
00:48:22,083 --> 00:48:22,084
Because

510
00:48:24,179 --> 00:48:26,169
they fought for justice for all.

511
00:48:28,219 --> 00:48:34,729
Oh, you have, you're being disrespectful for what I'm saying. I am. You know what

512
00:48:34,729 --> 00:48:38,029
I'm going to say. No clue. Yeah, then, then be quiet.

513
00:48:40,053 --> 00:48:48,006
You you appointed. Mr. Chris Street here who has no experience,

514
00:48:48,032 --> 00:48:55,179
no knowledge yet. Yet you have him do a presentation on

515
00:48:55,179 --> 00:49:02,051
license medical advice billing opinion he's giving medical advice without a license.

516
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:08,007
We have so many of you are public officials, including the deputy of the sheriff.

517
00:49:08,219 --> 00:49:14,479
How many more officials do we have here? We have doctors. Who actually don't even

518
00:49:14,081 --> 00:49:20,739
care about by uh enforcing the law. In other words, they break the law. They're here

519
00:49:20,739 --> 00:49:27,025
breaking the law, giving an opinion about medical when actually it's a conflict of

520
00:49:27,025 --> 00:49:32,001
interest for Mr. Danuka to be involved in this whole thing, and you guys don't care,

521
00:49:32,009 --> 00:49:37,235
you three don't give a shit about the laws and. Yet you're breaking the laws and

522
00:49:37,235 --> 00:49:43,114
you're supposed to be holed up to the highest but yet you don't you actually are

523
00:49:43,114 --> 00:49:49,034
so sad and I'm so mad I can't even say what I need to say because you constantly

524
00:49:49,034 --> 00:49:55,889
breaking the law every meeting we come here you cause chaos chaos. You have people

525
00:49:55,889 --> 00:50:02,449
here all the time to give opinion. You pay people with no experience. Chris Street

526
00:50:02,449 --> 00:50:08,389
here. Chris doesn't have no experience, yet you allowed him to come up here. Why

527
00:50:08,389 --> 00:50:13,054
are you breaking the law? I want to know why do you think you have the authority

528
00:50:13,083 --> 00:50:19,979
and to break the law and to constantly just bring people here to do the same. And

529
00:50:19,979 --> 00:50:25,003
nobody here has the guts to have to be all these people who come up here and they

530
00:50:25,003 --> 00:50:30,079
clap, you know, thinking, oh, so cool we got Doctor Danuka. They're a bunch of sheep.

531
00:50:31,006 --> 00:50:35,078
That's what they are. Do you understand what sheeps are people just follow to kiss

532
00:50:35,078 --> 00:50:41,504
your ass. That's the. Bottom line, I'm not one of them. I believe in justice and

533
00:50:41,504 --> 00:50:45,655
I believe in doing what's right and I'll fight what's right and I'll say the truth

534
00:50:45,655 --> 00:50:49,425
when people like it or not. You'll have lessons come up here and she'll say, Oh,

535
00:50:49,584 --> 00:50:56,000
Dr. Denua, I love Doctor Danuka. You have people coming up here kissing butt. They

536
00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:01,000
sound so disgusting because that's what they do. I speak the truth and justice will

537
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:07,011
prevail in the end after what we do, I will file complaints against the doctors uh

538
00:51:07,011 --> 00:51:14,002
for on the state medical. Next up, Leslie, followed by Ari. Thank you.

539
00:51:17,006 --> 00:51:22,379
Thanks for that introduction. Um, I missed the part where you diagnosed anybody or

540
00:51:22,379 --> 00:51:29,449
gave medical um advice, but, um, as a parent of a child who has special needs and

541
00:51:29,449 --> 00:51:34,002
needs a specialty service, I'm grateful for something like this. I go to UC Davis

542
00:51:34,002 --> 00:51:40,062
4 times a year, um, at a minimum, and then once she's 18, the closest place she can

543
00:51:40,062 --> 00:51:45,139
get those services is Chico so I appreciate the idea of bringing something here.

544
00:51:45,062 --> 00:51:51,659
Um, during that presentation he talked about how Shasta Community Health's residencies

545
00:51:51,659 --> 00:51:57,007
are filled with international students versus local students was the point of that.

546
00:51:57,026 --> 00:52:02,419
So when you look at division in our community, search no further than those in the.

547
00:52:02,885 --> 00:52:09,074
Audience who reach for a reason to yell out racist and create an issue where none

548
00:52:09,074 --> 00:52:15,514
exists. He wants to boost our local economy. This committee wants to boost our local

549
00:52:15,514 --> 00:52:23,459
community takes students who need and deserve those. Options and those choices

550
00:52:23,078 --> 00:52:29,052
who can come here go here and then stay here so it's not a racist comment to say

551
00:52:29,052 --> 00:52:34,739
that we want to grow our local um and then Monique had some comments to make and

552
00:52:34,739 --> 00:52:38,129
she was late on putting in her thing so I want to yield my time and share with her

553
00:52:38,129 --> 00:52:46,000
if that's OK. Yeah, you, you can't, yeah, yeah, you can't. Next up,

554
00:52:49,129 --> 00:52:51,239
Eris, and that is our last speaker chair.

555
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:02,949
Healthcare infrastructure matters. A local medical school could definitely be transformative,

556
00:53:03,052 --> 00:53:08,449
but only if it's led by people who are qualified, transparent, and accountable. Chris

557
00:53:08,449 --> 00:53:13,084
Street is none of these. He has no medical credentials, and a judge found that he

558
00:53:13,084 --> 00:53:18,084
has misused public funds when he was the treasurer in Orange County. Now he's vice

559
00:53:18,084 --> 00:53:24,025
president of New California, a far-right secessionist movement. Still, this board

560
00:53:24,025 --> 00:53:30,639
gave him a $40,000 no-bid contract despite rules requiring open bidding.

561
00:53:31,037 --> 00:53:36,659
$7000 has already been billed for conversations and research. That's public money.

562
00:53:36,081 --> 00:53:42,003
It's our money. Chris Street is not alone. The new register of voters has similar

563
00:53:42,003 --> 00:53:47,149
ties. Supervisor Kelstrom is linked to the Cottonwood militia. Chairman Kry has been

564
00:53:47,149 --> 00:53:52,229
flanked by known militia members on multiple occasions. This is not isolated. It's

565
00:53:52,229 --> 00:53:58,419
a pattern. You can dress it up, but these groups are sanitized fronts for authoritarianism.

566
00:53:59,005 --> 00:54:05,009
And this board is quietly building power through them. And as I name this, I also

567
00:54:05,009 --> 00:54:11,032
must hold space for Gaza, where over 15,000 children have been killed by bombs, starvation.

568
00:54:11,037 --> 00:54:15,449
It's tied to it. It is tied to it. It is connected. Don't cut my mic. This is my

569
00:54:15,449 --> 00:54:19,959
time and I'm reclaiming my time. It's connected. Let me finish. I'm reclaiming my

570
00:54:19,959 --> 00:54:24,919
time. Where over 15,000 children have been killed by bombs, starvation, and military

571
00:54:24,919 --> 00:54:29,959
violence. The genocide in Palestine is not random. It happens when fascist ideologies

572
00:54:29,959 --> 00:54:36,929
go unchecked, when human lives become disposable. We say the names, their names.

573
00:54:37,489 --> 00:54:42,879
Rajab, age 6 shot, and many more. Silence is complicity. Memory is resistant. I oppose

574
00:54:42,879 --> 00:54:47,001
Chris Street, California. The Cottonwood militia, the state of

575
00:54:47,001 --> 00:55:01,001
Jefferson,

576
00:55:01,002 --> 00:55:01,169
and any group rooted in hate or authoritarianism.

577
00:55:04,002 --> 00:55:11,062
I oppose. And the new. This is your 2nd warning. This is your 2nd

578
00:55:11,062 --> 00:55:16,409
warning. From holding contracts for power here. Not all who hear me are listening.

579
00:55:16,062 --> 00:55:20,028
All right, we're gonna go ahead and clear the room. We're going to go ahead and clear

580
00:55:20,028 --> 00:55:23,056
the room. So go ahead, we're going to remove you. You're not imagining you're not

581
00:55:23,056 --> 00:55:28,989
alone. The alarm bells are not anxiety. They're your instinct. OK.

582
00:55:39,449 --> 00:55:42,489
For the record, the Cottonwood Militia is a great organization and I love each and

583
00:55:42,489 --> 00:55:44,479
every one of those guys and gals.

584
00:56:05,689 --> 00:56:09,051
We have, we have direct orders from the sheriff on how these things have to be handled.

585
00:56:12,003 --> 00:56:12,085
You didn't have one.

586
00:56:16,031 --> 00:56:19,033
Please clear the room. I

587
00:57:05,199 --> 00:57:06,027
That's on red.

588
00:59:21,005 --> 00:59:21,026
You guys do that.

589
00:59:26,639 --> 00:59:26,659
I like

590
00:59:31,979 --> 00:59:31,989
Yeah.

591
00:59:37,059 --> 00:59:37,061
Per.

592
00:59:49,239 --> 00:59:49,719
It's like saying.

593
00:59:52,889 --> 00:59:53,719
Neurologist.

594
01:00:08,029 --> 01:00:10,469
Yeah, but can I make a slight direction?

595
01:00:17,076 --> 01:00:18,002
OK.

596
01:00:47,919 --> 01:00:48,003
Yeah

597
01:00:52,011 --> 01:00:55,005
When you spoke about residents from the Caribbean.

598
01:00:59,008 --> 01:01:01,004
but I'm on the board.

599
01:01:04,032 --> 01:01:04,409
to the right.

600
01:01:10,005 --> 01:01:10,006
That

601
01:01:22,011 --> 01:01:23,929
different OK

602
01:01:40,629 --> 01:01:45,083
All right, returning back to our 3. That's the last. Do we have one more public comment

603
01:01:45,083 --> 01:01:49,003
or is that it? Uh, that was it, chair. OK, we'll bring it back for board discussion

604
01:01:49,989 --> 01:01:57,199
and possible action. There is no cue, so supervisor Kelstrom. Yeah, great presentation,

605
01:01:57,025 --> 01:02:01,009
Mr. Street. That was awesome and um Doctor Danuka as well. um I don't know if he's

606
01:02:01,009 --> 01:02:06,009
still here or not, um, but I talked to a couple Anderson City council members yesterday

607
01:02:06,009 --> 01:02:09,489
at the Memorial Day event down here on this subject here, and, uh, one of them was

608
01:02:09,489 --> 01:02:12,076
going to try to be here, but they were both totally in favor of this thing. In fact,

609
01:02:12,889 --> 01:02:16,159
uh, one of them said that if you want to put it in Anderson, they would, uh, facilitate

610
01:02:16,159 --> 01:02:20,029
the permitting and licensing to get you down there. So, uh, Anderson's on board with

611
01:02:20,029 --> 01:02:27,199
you, as am I. Thank you. Supervisor long. Oh no. Oh, are you ready?

612
01:02:30,012 --> 01:02:30,005
Yeah, a plumber.

613
01:02:33,057 --> 01:02:38,056
Uh, Mr. Shi, could you talk us through how, uh, starting a medical school will lead

614
01:02:38,056 --> 01:02:46,003
to more, uh, local physicians, uh, in the research I've done, we know that

615
01:02:46,006 --> 01:02:51,076
increasing, uh, you know, if somebody goes to school here and is from here that does

616
01:02:51,076 --> 01:02:57,649
increase the chances that they will stay. Um, but oftentimes, uh, where they go and

617
01:02:57,649 --> 01:03:01,929
do their residency is a more powerful driver of where they end up practicing than

618
01:03:01,929 --> 01:03:08,179
where they went to medical school and so. Uh, is the idea that this will increase

619
01:03:08,179 --> 01:03:11,959
retention within our current residency programs and thereby increase the number of

620
01:03:11,959 --> 01:03:17,034
physicians that will remain in the community? Well, absolutely. I think that, you

621
01:03:17,034 --> 01:03:21,056
know, if, if you're from here and you went to high school here, you know, how would

622
01:03:21,056 --> 01:03:26,909
you like to be there at the high school graduation and say that Shasta County has

623
01:03:26,909 --> 01:03:33,135
reserved 10 number of positions that they'll find. Or support, you know, if you go

624
01:03:33,135 --> 01:03:37,774
off to college past the med cats, qualify for medical school, and come back to our

625
01:03:37,774 --> 01:03:44,254
medical school, I mean that kind of educational nexus is what's going on right now

626
01:03:44,254 --> 01:03:51,155
in Lebanon, Oregon. Lebanon actually has every kindergartener come to the medical

627
01:03:51,155 --> 01:03:57,439
school. They put on the little, you know, the, the earphones. They. Wear a little

628
01:03:57,055 --> 01:04:02,079
uh coat. They, they get the idea and teach these kids within the school system and

629
01:04:02,079 --> 01:04:08,149
also the community college district Linbot that this is available to you. This is

630
01:04:08,149 --> 01:04:13,189
about you. We want you we want you here in the community to, to stay here in the

631
01:04:13,189 --> 01:04:17,129
community and serve the people you know and you like to know. Um, I've had several

632
01:04:17,389 --> 01:04:21,054
parents who are applying to medical school and Doctor Duca can tell you about that,

633
01:04:21,075 --> 01:04:27,495
um. That you know are applying all over the country and have very little confidence

634
01:04:27,495 --> 01:04:32,885
that they'll even get into a California school um and the chances if you go to an

635
01:04:32,885 --> 01:04:37,044
urban center you're gonna have relationships maybe you never come back, but if you

636
01:04:37,044 --> 01:04:41,685
go across the country I think Doctor Danica's daughter right now is I, I believe

637
01:04:41,685 --> 01:04:45,284
she's in New York, right, she's in New York. She couldn't get into a school here

638
01:04:45,284 --> 01:04:52,006
in California, so, um. It's not fair to say that rural students are are discriminated

639
01:04:52,006 --> 01:04:57,699
against. But it's a much easier pathway and you know it's, it speaks to why only

640
01:04:57,699 --> 01:05:04,028
10% of doctors are in rural communities, yet 20% of residents are in rural communities.

641
01:05:04,055 --> 01:05:09,087
So I, I think that it's all about local, it's all about solving that that that shortage

642
01:05:09,087 --> 01:05:16,419
in primary care, that shortage in in specialties and really building on this idea

643
01:05:16,419 --> 01:05:22,393
because we're gonna get very high in doctors. We're gonna choose to move to Shasta

644
01:05:22,393 --> 01:05:27,393
County. The reason I'm gonna choose to move here, it's very intellectually rewarding

645
01:05:27,393 --> 01:05:32,562
to be a professor in a medical school, but you also, you know, you spend 20 or 30%

646
01:05:32,562 --> 01:05:38,683
of your time at the medical school and you set up a very powerful practice, your

647
01:05:38,683 --> 01:05:43,552
name, your representation with, with the medical school, that's a powerful poll,

648
01:05:43,802 --> 01:05:48,895
and they expect to pull people pull patients in from. These 14 counties I keep talking

649
01:05:48,895 --> 01:05:53,095
about, you know, they used to be part of what Shasta County, Shasta County Reading

650
01:05:53,095 --> 01:05:58,256
was always the hub when I was a little kid here, and, and, and this is where it all

651
01:05:58,256 --> 01:06:03,006
came. I think if we put this together, we'll not only come from here and come back

652
01:06:03,006 --> 01:06:07,095
from here, but we'll also bring in kids, you know, coming in from the other counties,

653
01:06:07,295 --> 01:06:13,135
Siski, Butte, and areas will be the center that, you know, the hub that we want to

654
01:06:13,135 --> 01:06:21,025
be. And uh so if we, if we you know have you know a number of

655
01:06:21,025 --> 01:06:25,449
medical students graduate but we don't increase our residency program, then we might

656
01:06:25,449 --> 01:06:30,077
increase retention a bit by having some local students go and graduate and then they

657
01:06:30,077 --> 01:06:34,061
want to stay here but otherwise we'll be sending a lot of those graduates to other

658
01:06:34,061 --> 01:06:39,169
places around the state or the country to do their residency program, in which case

659
01:06:39,169 --> 01:06:44,004
they might not come back. So one of the things that you know you and I have talked

660
01:06:44,004 --> 01:06:49,479
about and others is having a two part strategy of considering to test the feasibility

661
01:06:49,479 --> 01:06:54,056
of a medical school while also seeing how can we expand our residency programs as

662
01:06:54,056 --> 01:06:58,169
well to ensure that there are sufficient opportunities that if we do have a bunch

663
01:06:58,169 --> 01:07:02,033
of graduates who are local, they have a spot to do a residency program here. Uh,

664
01:07:02,036 --> 01:07:09,229
and so. The other thing that um I wanted to uh talk about and I don't know if we

665
01:07:09,229 --> 01:07:12,909
can bring up the slide again with the numbers, that's possible.

666
01:07:21,012 --> 01:07:27,076
But uh the clearly there is an upfront investment uh but then getting to a sustainable

667
01:07:27,076 --> 01:07:33,889
where you are either generating a profit or breaking even is is important uh and

668
01:07:34,199 --> 01:07:40,008
could you talk us through kind of that analysis of how we are estimating kind of

669
01:07:40,008 --> 01:07:45,659
revenue when you are at full capacity and versus what we expect the operating expenses

670
01:07:45,659 --> 01:07:50,027
to be. Uh, so, and I know we are, we are in the preliminary phases on this front,

671
01:07:50,031 --> 01:07:55,979
but I think that's helpful in terms of understanding the finances of something like

672
01:07:55,979 --> 01:07:57,076
this. OK

673
01:08:01,057 --> 01:08:06,739
Hold on one second, we're gonna turn your mic on. Right, OK, it's obviously a huge

674
01:08:06,739 --> 01:08:12,027
jump to go from, you know, a DO school to an MD school. MD schools are known for

675
01:08:12,027 --> 01:08:19,018
research and other issues, but in, in, in, uh, Lebanon, uh, when I, uh, went on my

676
01:08:19,018 --> 01:08:25,022
tour, they talked about their strategy to, you know, to put money up front and, and

677
01:08:25,022 --> 01:08:30,689
not have such a huge burden, you know, on, on the dollars. Now you have to get. You

678
01:08:30,689 --> 01:08:35,072
know, this escrow account, this $30 million escrow account, but it's, it, it, it

679
01:08:35,072 --> 01:08:40,879
breaks when you hit break even, um, and how many years it can take you to get to

680
01:08:40,879 --> 01:08:48,759
break even. Um, I used $50,000 for tuition for a DO school and $60,000

681
01:08:48,799 --> 01:08:54,012
for an MD school. That seems extremely conservative. Um, I did make one error and,

682
01:08:54,149 --> 01:09:00,324
and I think you called me out. On it, um, and then I, uh, in the on to the right

683
01:09:00,324 --> 01:09:07,724
side 2nd row down 25, 30 and 7. I, I guess I didn't add the 7 in there, um, but you

684
01:09:07,724 --> 01:09:11,604
can see I think we came to the same sort of numbers, your analysis we came out with

685
01:09:11,604 --> 01:09:17,563
the same sort of numbers, um, for the, you know, time we break even, uh, and pay

686
01:09:17,563 --> 01:09:23,874
off the school, um, but, uh, you, you really start cash flowing very, very early.

687
01:09:24,049 --> 01:09:30,129
Um, in, in the medical school, these kids pay big tuition. These are not your, you

688
01:09:30,129 --> 01:09:34,052
know, um, what would you call it, college kids running around town. These are very

689
01:09:34,052 --> 01:09:38,129
serious students. Their parents are behind them. They're paying big money. They're

690
01:09:38,129 --> 01:09:43,000
gonna be living here, according to Lebanon, they just, you know, they spend money.

691
01:09:43,189 --> 01:09:49,085
It's been a great experience for Lebanon, but they went through the process by leveraging

692
01:09:49,085 --> 01:09:55,778
a relationship with another DO school in Pomona. So when you go to medical school,

693
01:09:55,818 --> 01:10:02,069
your first two years are, are sort of like serious hard science. And and you take

694
01:10:02,069 --> 01:10:09,279
anatomy class physiology, biology, these are hard science classes and uh uh the school

695
01:10:09,279 --> 01:10:16,959
in Lebanon leveraged a relationship with Pomona, uh, Western University Pomona, and

696
01:10:16,959 --> 01:10:22,016
so they were um doing teleeducation for many of those classes or actually sharing

697
01:10:22,016 --> 01:10:28,899
back and forth. um I've had similar conversations I think we would probably. One

698
01:10:28,899 --> 01:10:34,054
investigate how that process worked, but they told me that they went directly into

699
01:10:34,054 --> 01:10:41,259
revenue, um, and you know, off the start, but they, they enrolled 100 kids in their

700
01:10:41,259 --> 01:10:47,229
first class and then moved through the process so they went from 100 to 200 to 300

701
01:10:47,229 --> 01:10:54,045
to 400 in the school in their first graduation, um, and they have tremendous. You

702
01:10:54,045 --> 01:11:00,529
know, a number of students applying and they don't think that, you know, finding

703
01:11:00,529 --> 01:11:04,669
students are willing to pay isn't isn't the challenge. It's probably the start up

704
01:11:04,097 --> 01:11:09,129
and, and really more importantly, they said it was their own, you know, trying to

705
01:11:09,129 --> 01:11:13,033
get the commitment of the community to believe that they could do this, you know,

706
01:11:13,089 --> 01:11:18,319
everybody knows we have incredible kids they go to school here. I've been to some.

707
01:11:18,649 --> 01:11:25,149
You know, some, uh, scholarship events. I mean, they're just terrific kids and they

708
01:11:25,149 --> 01:11:30,189
leave and you see the same thing and Leslie just told you her Leslie just told you

709
01:11:30,189 --> 01:11:35,043
her story about, you know, her daughter has to go to UC Davis. Annie couldn't be

710
01:11:35,043 --> 01:11:40,079
with us today. Her mother, 106 year old mother had an event and, and she's on the

711
01:11:40,079 --> 01:11:45,709
way to Davis right now. Didn't go to the local hospital, you know, we got transferred

712
01:11:45,709 --> 01:11:50,083
to the local hospital for surgery down to Davis. Um, I think that all should stay

713
01:11:50,083 --> 01:11:57,066
here and I think that that revenue would stay here. So I think we can do this. Early

714
01:11:57,066 --> 01:12:02,509
on and make the numbers work. Um, obviously we'll have to do a lot more analysis.

715
01:12:03,049 --> 01:12:07,037
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean, because I think you know in this current model you

716
01:12:07,037 --> 01:12:12,035
net out at if your tuition stays at 50,000 with 100 students, you get to 5 million

717
01:12:12,035 --> 01:12:18,399
in revenue and based on the staff numbers, your operating expenses at that point

718
01:12:18,399 --> 01:12:23,479
would be, you know, roughly over 10 million so you wouldn't be making money kind

719
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:28,039
of even at the 6th year, uh, and so that would be concerning but that can be something,

720
01:12:28,052 --> 01:12:32,799
you know that we. You know, would look into and would want more detail in terms of

721
01:12:32,799 --> 01:12:37,589
the assumptions of how you got to the staff numbers and uh but I think the other

722
01:12:37,919 --> 01:12:41,759
things and this is something we've talked about, you know, at length is when we think

723
01:12:41,759 --> 01:12:46,012
about a medical school and I appreciate the, you know, bold vision uh from Doctor

724
01:12:46,012 --> 01:12:51,043
Danuka uh but um you know and and I'm, you know, I find that inspiring at the same

725
01:12:51,043 --> 01:12:56,052
time if we need to make sure that we're, uh, approaching it in a way that addresses

726
01:12:56,052 --> 01:13:01,879
the key hurdles to making this viable. And there I've talked about, uh, and in my

727
01:13:01,879 --> 01:13:06,799
kind of research and conversations that there's 4 key hurdles that uh it comes to

728
01:13:06,799 --> 01:13:11,000
when it comes to starting a medical school. The first is getting enough high quality

729
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:16,399
students as of this last year we're at the lowest medical school student enrollment

730
01:13:16,399 --> 01:13:22,919
that there's been in 10 years, um, in the, um, the Clovis school they mentioned that

731
01:13:22,919 --> 01:13:27,002
it's getting harder for them to get kind of the crop of students that they want.

732
01:13:27,062 --> 01:13:31,779
As they've gotten to their full capacity number now I think part of what you mentioned

733
01:13:31,779 --> 01:13:35,005
earlier in terms of partnering with an established school so you get that reputational

734
01:13:35,005 --> 01:13:41,054
bump right away can help with that. Uh, the other piece is faculty. I know that in

735
01:13:41,054 --> 01:13:44,819
um the school down there as well they've had trouble and they still have vacancies

736
01:13:44,819 --> 01:13:49,379
in terms of faculty and there are now 1 million, you know, population center. And

737
01:13:49,379 --> 01:13:53,899
so I think that is a key assumption that we need to test is can we attract the faculty

738
01:13:54,022 --> 01:13:58,097
and if we're pulling them from our existing physician practices we'll actually make

739
01:13:58,097 --> 01:14:04,083
the problem worse in the short term, uh, for our current, uh, you know, practices

740
01:14:04,083 --> 01:14:08,609
because we'll be pulling them out of practice even if it's 50% and they will be taking

741
01:14:08,609 --> 01:14:13,899
a pay cut, uh, in fact, in in Clovis they talked about that's often a 50% pay cut

742
01:14:13,899 --> 01:14:18,439
to go to teaching fully. Uh, and then the third thing, and this is when I was talking

743
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:23,129
with the vice dean of UCSF Fresno who started the Kaiser one, he said, what's make

744
01:14:23,129 --> 01:14:27,041
or break is do you have enough clinical rotations? And what you were describing earlier

745
01:14:27,041 --> 01:14:32,025
is for 3rd and 4th year students, they don't, uh, they're not necessarily sitting

746
01:14:32,025 --> 01:14:35,081
in a classroom learning, they have to go and rotations and 3rd year there's 7 key

747
01:14:35,081 --> 01:14:40,299
rotations that they have to satisfy. And then in 4th year there's elective rotations

748
01:14:40,709 --> 01:14:46,018
and that equates to about 10 rotations per student per year. So if we had 50 students

749
01:14:46,018 --> 01:14:51,089
in 3rd and 4th year or 100 total students, that would be 500 rotations. That means

750
01:14:51,089 --> 01:14:58,054
that we would have to either find the locally 500 rotations, uh, which means we would

751
01:14:58,054 --> 01:15:06,002
have to convince physicians, surgeons, pediatric, OBGYN to take on medical school

752
01:15:06,002 --> 01:15:10,062
students, which will be a drag on their productivity and their revenue, uh, and so.

753
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:14,035
It's not necessarily insurmountable, but it's something that we need to really make

754
01:15:14,035 --> 01:15:19,095
sure it is possible before we head down the road to, you know, to quote again, it's

755
01:15:19,095 --> 01:15:23,083
make or break and the challenge there too is that the hospitals don't control the

756
01:15:23,083 --> 01:15:29,149
physicians, so. They can't tell their physicians, oh, you have to take a medical

757
01:15:29,149 --> 01:15:34,043
school student and we'd have to go to the physician groups and ask them and see if

758
01:15:34,043 --> 01:15:38,039
we can get a sufficient number of them. uh, and then the final thing is in terms

759
01:15:38,039 --> 01:15:43,459
of residency programs there again I think we, we currently have a family medicine

760
01:15:43,459 --> 01:15:48,005
residency program and internal medicine program we don't have any of these 5 other

761
01:15:48,819 --> 01:15:53,939
residency programs that are part of the core 7. And so I think that they're to in

762
01:15:53,939 --> 01:15:57,007
order to retain those folks and give them the sufficient rotations, the other benefit

763
01:15:57,007 --> 01:16:03,001
is that the residents can train the 3rd and 4th year medical students and so as we

764
01:16:03,001 --> 01:16:08,005
look forward, I think it's great to, you know, I think this could be, you know, particularly

765
01:16:08,005 --> 01:16:13,062
if we partner with an existing institution that has done this before and that we

766
01:16:13,062 --> 01:16:17,765
could leverage their experience and potentially their reputation. that there could

767
01:16:17,765 --> 01:16:21,285
be a pathway to it, but I think we have to be open-eyed about the real challenges

768
01:16:21,285 --> 01:16:26,444
to this, uh, and do our homework to ensure that we've both gotten the support from

769
01:16:26,444 --> 01:16:33,004
the local community in terms of physician groups, the health systems, um, and also

770
01:16:33,004 --> 01:16:39,049
that we have, uh, run the numbers to ensure that this is feasible. May I respond?

771
01:16:40,689 --> 01:16:47,093
Uh, sure, I stopped I've had a lot of discussions with Doctor Danua, and, uh, they've

772
01:16:47,093 --> 01:16:55,049
just formed a committee and exploration committee of, of, uh, physicians and academics

773
01:16:55,049 --> 01:17:01,689
to flesh out a lot of these issues, um, but my role was to, is this possible to do

774
01:17:01,689 --> 01:17:06,097
so what I present you today is, you know, is a discussion that we weren't going to

775
01:17:06,097 --> 01:17:12,006
have three months ago. This is a very powerful statement for, you know, what, what

776
01:17:12,006 --> 01:17:18,399
is Shasta County. When I was a kid, as I said, it was the hub of the North. I mean,

777
01:17:18,052 --> 01:17:24,056
I, I talked to talked to Lebanon economically, all the stores that were all closed

778
01:17:24,056 --> 01:17:29,068
and paint was all, you know, falling off on the side of the buildings, all painted,

779
01:17:29,072 --> 01:17:34,058
all new, got a couple for lease, but you know they're leasing for good numbers. It,

780
01:17:34,068 --> 01:17:41,319
it brings in about 45 to 50 million per year. Just in their little community, so

781
01:17:41,319 --> 01:17:46,083
I, I think the next step is, is just as you said, we need to have those discussions,

782
01:17:46,879 --> 01:17:49,035
we need to do those projections. Thank you. Super.

783
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:56,052
Can I just make one follow up point on uh the, the Lebanon Oregon example because

784
01:17:56,052 --> 01:18:00,319
I think it's important to have kind of some of the broader context there which is

785
01:18:00,319 --> 01:18:07,027
in 2004 they started a program called Northwest Track which was to try to. Uh, basically

786
01:18:07,027 --> 01:18:12,075
take 3rd and 4th year students from Pomona and have them go into clinical rotations

787
01:18:12,075 --> 01:18:16,339
in the Northwest and so they were testing the feasibility of that. They did that

788
01:18:16,339 --> 01:18:20,079
for 4 years before in 2008 they announced that they were going to start the medical

789
01:18:20,079 --> 01:18:24,879
school, uh, and so they went through this process of testing the viability. The school

790
01:18:24,879 --> 01:18:27,509
in Clovis did the same thing. They partnered with the school in Missouri which I

791
01:18:27,509 --> 01:18:32,047
know you, you've, uh, looked into as well, um, to test the viability because that's

792
01:18:32,047 --> 01:18:37,549
such a central point, um, as well and so. The other thing that's important to note

793
01:18:37,549 --> 01:18:43,027
about the uh the Lebanon Oregon example is that they were able to have a great partnership

794
01:18:43,027 --> 01:18:48,075
with Samaritan Health Services which which is a massive health system that's like

795
01:18:48,075 --> 01:18:53,919
many times bigger than any health system in our community and uh provided the land

796
01:18:53,919 --> 01:18:59,069
I believe or at least the 15 million up front for the capital expenditures and so.

797
01:18:59,041 --> 01:19:03,001
Um, there are some things that they had really going for them and they had taken

798
01:19:03,001 --> 01:19:09,006
the time uh to to test the viability and build the rotational slots up before launching

799
01:19:09,006 --> 01:19:11,081
into the medical school. Thank you, super long.

800
01:19:13,979 --> 01:19:18,779
Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Mr. Street for the presentation. Appreciate that. Um,

801
01:19:19,069 --> 01:19:26,759
so, As I understand it, and, and I echo the sentiments of residency programs are

802
01:19:26,759 --> 01:19:32,009
critical and I don't see that work into this presentation too much other than what

803
01:19:32,009 --> 01:19:38,529
we already have with the three entities. Residency is the key to retention of doctors

804
01:19:38,529 --> 01:19:45,041
once they, because there's about a 50% chance that they're 50% difference um if they

805
01:19:45,041 --> 01:19:49,006
do a residency somewhere else and that they're going to come back versus when they're

806
01:19:49,006 --> 01:19:54,899
in the community and they're going to just stay where they finish their residency.

807
01:19:55,009 --> 01:20:00,609
So I, I think there's, it, it's missing the second component to this. Um, and another

808
01:20:00,609 --> 01:20:05,569
thing that um I'm trying to figure out is that, and I'm, I'm a strong advocate for

809
01:20:05,569 --> 01:20:11,859
a medical school, but you're looking for a partnership with a county. And the county

810
01:20:11,859 --> 01:20:17,899
will have to fund this upfront to the tune of 30 to $50 million you said for the

811
01:20:17,899 --> 01:20:23,066
escrow account, which could eventually get returned if you meet accreditation and

812
01:20:23,066 --> 01:20:28,014
some of the different features to this, but then you throw on the cost of building

813
01:20:28,014 --> 01:20:32,419
the building, acquiring the land, all the other things. This could easily be a $60

814
01:20:32,419 --> 01:20:37,007
million. Uh, venture up front that the county, if you're looking for a partnership

815
01:20:37,007 --> 01:20:42,419
with the county that we're going to have to debt service that, and I have great concerns

816
01:20:42,419 --> 01:20:47,939
with that. Would I'd love to have a medical facility and a training facility for

817
01:20:47,939 --> 01:20:52,054
doctors in our community? Absolutely. I'm just not sure it's the right combination

818
01:20:52,054 --> 01:21:00,024
for the county to be funding this exploration and so that's where I come. And

819
01:21:00,024 --> 01:21:06,018
uh the debt service and some of those issues are critically important to me because

820
01:21:06,056 --> 01:21:11,056
$60 million is a lot of money and I don't know, there's a lot of hurdles to clear

821
01:21:11,056 --> 01:21:17,068
like Supervisor Plumber had talked about, uh, rotations and doctors already in short

822
01:21:17,068 --> 01:21:23,004
supply and having to take themselves out of the picture to train um somebody in the

823
01:21:23,004 --> 01:21:27,779
residency program. There's a lot of issues and I'm just not sure that the county

824
01:21:27,779 --> 01:21:35,018
is is prepared to get into this business, um, albeit a medical school would be wonderful

825
01:21:35,018 --> 01:21:39,379
for our community. I, I will not take that away from anything and in combination

826
01:21:39,379 --> 01:21:42,074
with the residency, we could, we could start to solve some of these problems. So

827
01:21:43,339 --> 01:21:48,629
I worry about cash flow. I'm very conservative with the county's dollars and cautious,

828
01:21:49,018 --> 01:21:55,068
and you're asking for a $60 million plus debt service right up front, and I just,

829
01:21:56,001 --> 01:22:00,041
I, I don't see that we can afford that. Thank you. Thank you, Supervisor Long. Supervisor

830
01:22:00,041 --> 01:22:06,006
Harman. So just a quick question, can you, can you just maybe summarize a little

831
01:22:06,006 --> 01:22:13,529
bit? What uh Sorry. What you've done, and I know you've researched it or you've

832
01:22:13,529 --> 01:22:20,399
got interests out there, um, what, what do you see as uh maybe philanthropic or,

833
01:22:20,043 --> 01:22:28,039
or other grants that are, that we're looking at that might Take care of some of these

834
01:22:28,039 --> 01:22:33,299
concerns. The next step for me is to, to start looking at federal dollars, right?

835
01:22:33,037 --> 01:22:37,014
and state and federal dollars that we're just going in that process. We, we need

836
01:22:37,014 --> 01:22:42,007
to have an idea. I'm not here to be the advocate of the school. I'm here to be the

837
01:22:42,007 --> 01:22:47,979
consultant to say that it it appears to me you can do this school. You can you at

838
01:22:47,979 --> 01:22:53,459
least have an opportunity to go to the next level seriously to address these issues

839
01:22:53,459 --> 01:23:00,049
that Supervisor Long and Supervisor Plumber have have been talking about, but. It's

840
01:23:00,049 --> 01:23:05,839
now on the table. It's a discussion that needed to happen. It's now a discussion

841
01:23:05,839 --> 01:23:07,879
that, you know, it's going to take leadership. I, you know,

842
01:23:10,089 --> 01:23:16,056
CEO Rickert and I have had conversations about this, you know, it's, it's your opportunity

843
01:23:16,089 --> 01:23:23,006
to address a need that now is clearly not being addressed, but we need primary care

844
01:23:23,006 --> 01:23:30,689
physicians, we need specialty care physicians. Right, but so I, I,

845
01:23:30,095 --> 01:23:38,093
I'm sure there's grants, there's uh Shasta County by moving itself into a rural county,

846
01:23:39,025 --> 01:23:46,043
it is now, um, the healthcare is under the USDA, US Department of Agriculture, um,

847
01:23:46,045 --> 01:23:51,649
and they have very special programs for facility financing for, you know, grants

848
01:23:51,649 --> 01:23:58,859
and such like that. It's unusual for, you know, a county the size of Shasta. To be

849
01:23:58,859 --> 01:24:04,609
looking at these grants, I think you have real opportunities, um, and those discussions

850
01:24:04,609 --> 01:24:10,007
about specific dollars, you know, I'm gonna finish in the next month. So my belief

851
01:24:10,007 --> 01:24:17,109
is that um my role was to say, is this doable? here's how you can think about it

852
01:24:17,419 --> 01:24:21,079
and then put it, you know, here's the financing or or the way to treat it and then

853
01:24:21,079 --> 01:24:26,047
it really it's up to you as to whether you want to move forward or move on. And then

854
01:24:26,047 --> 01:24:33,259
that one last thing, then that. Advan the specific advantages of Simpson College

855
01:24:33,083 --> 01:24:38,899
being interested in being involved in. Well they're rather unique in that here's,

856
01:24:39,002 --> 01:24:46,979
here's a small, you know, rural college that's #1 or #2 rated in the state for nursing

857
01:24:46,979 --> 01:24:52,209
school. I mean, being a doctor isn't that far. Different from being a nurse. I mean,

858
01:24:52,045 --> 01:24:56,339
it has a lot of the same background, a lot of the same training, it's much more advanced,

859
01:24:56,077 --> 01:25:01,609
but you know, they're, they're already first and best as a small school and nursing

860
01:25:01,609 --> 01:25:08,022
in the state. Um, I, I, I think you gotta consider them as, as Norm Hall said, you

861
01:25:08,022 --> 01:25:12,379
know, they're the local, they're your local university, you know, they're already

862
01:25:12,379 --> 01:25:17,259
doing the program with, you know, the, the community college to offer half tuition

863
01:25:17,259 --> 01:25:21,819
for transfers. I mean they're pretty committed to this being their future. They'd

864
01:25:21,819 --> 01:25:26,025
like to be, they'd like to be a partner if that made sense. Sure, right, thank you.

865
01:25:26,609 --> 01:25:34,609
last, last comment, um, super long, so. If, if my timeline is correct, correct me

866
01:25:34,609 --> 01:25:42,459
if I'm wrong, but it would be approximately 4 years till the the program is

867
01:25:42,459 --> 01:25:48,049
up and running, about 8 years before the new doctors were graduating, uh, 11 years

868
01:25:48,049 --> 01:25:54,041
before you actually had practicing physicians coming out of the program to start

869
01:25:54,041 --> 01:25:58,091
to recover some of these costs that Supervisor Plumberer was outlined. So that's

870
01:25:58,091 --> 01:26:04,043
11 years by my calculations that we're gonna be servicing debt or potentially. Now,

871
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:09,069
if you have a proposal for federal funding to take care of the medical facility,

872
01:26:09,109 --> 01:26:13,979
I'm all ears because if we can get this paid for with other than county dollars,

873
01:26:14,109 --> 01:26:18,095
that's. a whole different story because I'd love to have a a a new medical training

874
01:26:18,095 --> 01:26:23,685
facility in in Reading, absolutely. But when we're talking about by my calculations,

875
01:26:23,854 --> 01:26:29,294
11 years before we're producing actual practicing physicians, that's a, that's a

876
01:26:29,294 --> 01:26:35,093
decade out. And that's a significant time for us to be kind of on the hook for this

877
01:26:35,093 --> 01:26:42,569
debt service and try and, and we couldn't even get back the escrow funds until 6

878
01:26:42,569 --> 01:26:47,016
years, right? Um, I, I think those years, I think it'd be a little shorter than that,

879
01:26:47,209 --> 01:26:52,569
but the, the issue that's important is, you know, we, we need to investigate federal

880
01:26:52,569 --> 01:26:58,669
funding. Federal funding wants to investigate us. I mean this is the kind of project

881
01:26:58,919 --> 01:27:03,056
we would be really, I'm looking to be if we move forward on this, what's called the

882
01:27:03,056 --> 01:27:08,016
National Development grant because what we're doing here in Shasta County is a real

883
01:27:08,016 --> 01:27:15,002
county is going to be a framework. That other counties, other rural parts of America

884
01:27:15,002 --> 01:27:20,064
that have a problem as bad as ours or worse, you know, could, could copy we're, we're

885
01:27:20,064 --> 01:27:25,087
being forward because we can't and you know if that makes sense to move forward,

886
01:27:26,012 --> 01:27:33,087
that's a choice that you're gonna make, um, but I I I do believe that. You have incredible

887
01:27:33,087 --> 01:27:40,669
kids here. I think you'd have a tremendous gene pool to draw from. I think that you

888
01:27:40,669 --> 01:27:46,669
have physicians would come to the school, important, you know, especially physicians

889
01:27:46,669 --> 01:27:53,081
would come to the school, build a practice here, you know, build uh specialty capacity

890
01:27:53,081 --> 01:27:58,039
that we don't have. So I think we just need to have all those issues fleshed out.

891
01:27:59,729 --> 01:28:03,064
Thank you. All right, so I got a few comments then we're gonna wrap this up and move

892
01:28:03,064 --> 01:28:09,479
on. Um, so, uh, I appreciate a lot of the information that everybody shared. One

893
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:14,399
of the things is we have to remember this was an exploratory process. We're $7000

894
01:28:14,399 --> 01:28:19,043
in there, uh, it, it, it's, it's actually become kind of comical to me that we're

895
01:28:19,919 --> 01:28:26,064
beating this up as if we're contributing $200 million today uh to a project. I mean,

896
01:28:26,879 --> 01:28:32,025
our, our consultant. was asked to bring some items back and let's not forget, Doctor

897
01:28:32,025 --> 01:28:39,056
Danuka won by a far greater margin than any of us up here, and he ran partially on

898
01:28:39,056 --> 01:28:44,359
wanting to do big things as it relates to medical care in our community. When I first

899
01:28:44,359 --> 01:28:49,012
heard that, I said, well, what would that look like? And that really spurred a lot

900
01:28:49,012 --> 01:28:53,589
of this conversation. Um, I remember uh supervisor Long, you were in Tahoe this week

901
01:28:53,589 --> 01:28:58,097
and I was in Reno in 1995. I had one of two AAU teams that were playing Memorial

902
01:28:58,097 --> 01:29:03,077
Day weekend in '95. Now all these years later, there's about 400 teams, you know,

903
01:29:04,069 --> 01:29:08,079
um, in our region from Chico to Reading. Um, Supervisor plumber, you moved across

904
01:29:08,079 --> 01:29:13,095
the country with your entire family coming here for Bethel Church. That was tiny,

905
01:29:14,014 --> 01:29:20,031
tiny and, you know, in Weaverville, and now it's a mecca. We can talk about it taking

906
01:29:20,031 --> 01:29:24,075
4 years, 10 years, 11 years, but you know what gets done if you don't do anything?

907
01:29:25,004 --> 01:29:31,359
Nothing. And all we're doing, all we're doing right now is saying, can it be done?

908
01:29:31,689 --> 01:29:35,299
Can it be done? And when we talk about people taking pay cuts they have to teach,

909
01:29:35,529 --> 01:29:38,049
there's a physician in the back of the room, our health officer that took a pay cut

910
01:29:38,049 --> 01:29:42,529
to do this. I'm taking a pay cut. Harmon's taking a pay cut. I believe there's a

911
01:29:42,529 --> 01:29:46,529
lot of people in this community that will step up, take pay cuts, do whatever it

912
01:29:46,529 --> 01:29:50,058
takes to make this community better. And if we don't talk about doing big things,

913
01:29:50,081 --> 01:29:56,359
this area is never going to grow. With that, we're going to move on to our 4. There's

914
01:29:56,359 --> 01:30:01,979
no emotion. Up next we have uh public comment open time followed by consent. Oh,

915
01:30:02,027 --> 01:30:08,083
OK. Sure. Yes. I'd actually like to make a motion. Oh, yes, go ahead. If you, if

916
01:30:08,083 --> 01:30:11,041
you'd like to make a motion and, you know, I'm not sure.

917
01:30:13,379 --> 01:30:21,093
Good. Oh, so I'd like to make a motion to include, uh, uh, 4 things in the scope

918
01:30:21,093 --> 01:30:26,029
of work for the consultant, uh, going forward, and you know it sounded a little bit

919
01:30:26,029 --> 01:30:31,759
like you were being defensive. Frustrated or frustrating, sure, uh, not sure, frustrated.

920
01:30:31,839 --> 01:30:36,759
I'm frustrated. OK, you're frustrating. Uh, I'm frustrated.

921
01:30:40,259 --> 01:30:42,097
Oh no, I said frustrated. It might have sounded different. No, it sounded, it was

922
01:30:42,097 --> 01:30:48,129
frustrating. You just misspoke. So I'm frustrated. Yes, go ahead. Wow, OK. No, no,

923
01:30:48,169 --> 01:30:53,037
no, hold on. Not well, the passive aggressive stuff doesn't work. We're on, we've

924
01:30:53,037 --> 01:30:59,077
had this discussion. We're $7000 in to a process of saying can we do it. The hundreds

925
01:30:59,077 --> 01:31:02,209
of hours that have been spent, make your motion. Go ahead.

926
01:31:06,016 --> 01:31:09,081
To be clear, I said frustrated. It might have sounded like frustrating, but the other

927
01:31:09,081 --> 01:31:16,629
thing is that you know my goal is to uh continue to support this process

928
01:31:16,629 --> 01:31:21,024
and answering the questions we need to answer to ensure that it is successful in

929
01:31:21,024 --> 01:31:27,000
the long term and I think by asking the hard questions, digging into the details,

930
01:31:27,016 --> 01:31:31,000
looking at other examples, testing them, that's how we'll actually get to something

931
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:35,016
that is successful. It's not to undermine it, it's actually to strengthen it. Uh,

932
01:31:35,209 --> 01:31:39,095
and so with that I'd like to make a motion that uh throughout the uh through this

933
01:31:39,095 --> 01:31:44,279
process that we include in the scope of work for the consultant that he uh reach

934
01:31:44,279 --> 01:31:52,012
out to the local physician groups and request a letter of support and intent to support

935
01:31:52,012 --> 01:31:57,919
this effort in the future that he reach out to the three health systems and request

936
01:31:57,919 --> 01:32:02,799
a letter of support and intent to support this process that he create a clinical

937
01:32:02,799 --> 01:32:09,649
rotations feasibility model. Uh, and that there is, uh, plans around a clinical rotation

938
01:32:09,649 --> 01:32:11,529
testing pilot that are developed.

939
01:32:15,109 --> 01:32:18,075
I would be willing to second that motion if you would like to add, I'd also like

940
01:32:18,075 --> 01:32:22,189
him to explore some of the grants out there, that possible grant funding. That's

941
01:32:22,189 --> 01:32:28,031
already part of it. Yes, uh, yes, Mr. Chairman, I, because this is the direction

942
01:32:28,031 --> 01:32:32,709
the staff, the most this can be is that, uh, direct staff to bring an amended contract

943
01:32:32,709 --> 01:32:37,189
for approval by the board. OK, supervisor or supervisor, uh, Councilman Danua or

944
01:32:37,189 --> 01:32:41,569
Doctor Danica, come on up, I have a couple of questions. Because here's, here's my

945
01:32:41,569 --> 01:32:45,979
concern, and supervisor Harman, I'll speak to you when it comes to amending contracts.

946
01:32:46,037 --> 01:32:50,025
Uh, when you, when you empower somebody in your company and you move in a direction,

947
01:32:50,047 --> 01:32:54,379
you set the course and there's nothing wrong with modifying it. I just don't want

948
01:32:54,379 --> 01:33:00,169
to slow this process down in terms of where we're getting to. So uh Doctor Danuca,

949
01:33:00,005 --> 01:33:05,072
um, you're already speaking to physicians, correct? Yeah, can I, may I clarify a

950
01:33:05,072 --> 01:33:09,056
couple of things? Yes, uh, yeah, absolutely. I'm actually president of North Valley

951
01:33:09,056 --> 01:33:14,689
Medical Association. I have, uh, been in close contact with a lot of physicians around

952
01:33:14,689 --> 01:33:18,072
our area, including those in Chico who are super interested in building a medical

953
01:33:18,072 --> 01:33:23,509
school. In fact, they would like to build in Chico, and we have a friendly competition

954
01:33:23,509 --> 01:33:28,689
that no we'll bring it in Shasta, but really it will be a consortium. So we have

955
01:33:28,689 --> 01:33:33,029
been talking with people all over the North state including Partnership Health, Mercy

956
01:33:33,029 --> 01:33:37,025
Medical Center, Shasta Community Health Center. So as the president of North Valley

957
01:33:37,025 --> 01:33:41,033
Medical Association, you have my full commitment to make that happen. I'm also talking

958
01:33:41,033 --> 01:33:47,043
with the actually they approached us, a large group of doctors who run the ER and

959
01:33:47,043 --> 01:33:52,319
the hospitalist group in our state and the serve dignity by duty. They reached out

960
01:33:52,319 --> 01:33:56,091
to us and asked us, Hey, can we partner with this project? So that's one concern

961
01:33:56,091 --> 01:34:00,079
I want to address. Second, I just, you had mentioned earlier about the shortage of

962
01:34:00,079 --> 01:34:07,081
quality students in our area. I would say absolutely we have absolutely great students

963
01:34:07,081 --> 01:34:13,319
in our area. In fact, uh, we have students who have had nearly perfect MCAT score

964
01:34:13,319 --> 01:34:20,043
and from top university had to go across the state. Uh, so in terms of faculty development,

965
01:34:20,589 --> 01:34:27,649
this in fact I foresee this. As building a partnership with the residency programs,

966
01:34:27,066 --> 01:34:32,529
and we absolutely want more residency program. I'm a big advocate of that. I was

967
01:34:32,979 --> 01:34:37,759
part of one of the people who brought internal medicine residency in Shasta Regional

968
01:34:37,759 --> 01:34:43,709
here. We want to bring surgery, OBGYN, psychiatry, those residencies, and many more

969
01:34:43,709 --> 01:34:48,939
fellowships we want to bring to this area. This will be actually a bilateral program

970
01:34:48,939 --> 01:34:53,095
which should be in residency are absolutely essential to a medical training, and

971
01:34:53,095 --> 01:34:58,083
this will be a synergistic symbiotic relationship between the medical school and

972
01:34:58,083 --> 01:35:04,919
the residency and the hospitals. So what I would say here is. I county should do

973
01:35:04,919 --> 01:35:11,799
what they need to do. My perspective is completely independent of the county or the

974
01:35:11,799 --> 01:35:18,024
city or the state or the federal government. We as doctors and educators will make

975
01:35:18,024 --> 01:35:23,319
this community group and we'll advance this agenda, we'll advance this project and

976
01:35:23,319 --> 01:35:28,439
we partner with the county as the county deems necessary and helpful. So we will

977
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:33,669
do this and you do decide that, but we are going to do a lot of that work. Which

978
01:35:33,669 --> 01:35:38,075
you have been asking for. Thank you. Thank you, Doctor Nka. Well, yeah, I was gonna

979
01:35:38,075 --> 01:35:42,589
say with and with that answer, and you know sorry supervisor, but I think they're

980
01:35:42,589 --> 01:35:47,189
already going in that direction, so I'm gonna withdraw my second. OK. Well, uh, you

981
01:35:47,189 --> 01:35:51,075
know, and what I, what I'm trying to establish, and we know a lot more now to the

982
01:35:51,075 --> 01:35:55,006
point of many people have said that than we did at the beginning and so that's where

983
01:35:55,006 --> 01:35:59,879
why I think it justifies modifying a contract. And the reason I am doing that is

984
01:35:59,879 --> 01:36:04,093
because when we come to the end of this process and I imagine that there is going

985
01:36:04,093 --> 01:36:09,919
to be some type of ask for the county to continue to partner in some capacity. And

986
01:36:09,919 --> 01:36:14,016
I'm labeling those four things because in order for me to be comfortable with approving

987
01:36:14,016 --> 01:36:18,479
it, it will have to go further than having heard from you and others saying we are

988
01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:23,043
having conversations. I would like to actually have that work done by that point

989
01:36:23,068 --> 01:36:27,959
to ensure that you know those institutions have publicly said they are supporting

990
01:36:27,959 --> 01:36:34,002
moving forward. So that is the reason for my uh. Desire to clarify that in the work

991
01:36:34,002 --> 01:36:39,074
going forward. Supervisor Plumber, can you, uh, clarify again what the four amendments

992
01:36:39,074 --> 01:36:45,169
were? Uh, letters of support from local physician groups, letters of support from

993
01:36:45,169 --> 01:36:50,819
the three main health systems in, uh, Shasta County, a clinical rotation feasibility

994
01:36:50,819 --> 01:36:56,085
model, and a clinical rotation testing pilot plan. What was the last one? That's

995
01:36:56,085 --> 01:37:02,075
uh to uh figure out uh basically to pilot how we would do 3rd and 4th year rotations

996
01:37:02,075 --> 01:37:06,459
and have a sufficient number of them, whether that's partnering with another institution

997
01:37:06,079 --> 01:37:10,087
or we we already do that a little bit with UC Davis so figuring out how could we

998
01:37:10,087 --> 01:37:14,043
accommodate that number of clinical rotations and how can we test that to see if

999
01:37:14,043 --> 01:37:21,077
it will work. OK, I will uh make a second to your motion. May I just say

1000
01:37:21,077 --> 01:37:25,097
this that you're absolutely right, we need to do all this work and it will be incumbent

1001
01:37:25,097 --> 01:37:29,031
upon the doctors and educators group to do that work. That's all I just want to say

1002
01:37:31,029 --> 01:37:35,049
I think with the amount of work that has already been done and the amount of research

1003
01:37:35,049 --> 01:37:40,002
that has been done for $7000 I'll make a subsequent motion to just continue on as

1004
01:37:40,209 --> 01:37:45,002
as we're going now. So we, we would, we wouldn't actually need a motion for that

1005
01:37:45,002 --> 01:37:47,979
because they've already got a contract, so they would just they would just carry

1006
01:37:47,979 --> 01:37:53,002
on as is vote on this one. Yeah, I, I would just like to ask a question and you can

1007
01:37:53,002 --> 01:37:58,899
give it a head nod from the back of the room, but Doctor Danuka and Mr. Street, um,

1008
01:37:59,259 --> 01:38:04,729
if you guys can come up to the podium, is that, does that, does that seem reasonable?

1009
01:38:05,629 --> 01:38:10,229
being that you've already been given marching orders and I know you got your hands

1010
01:38:10,229 --> 01:38:15,149
full. Well, I, I, I'm trying to get the finish line and I, I was instructed that

1011
01:38:15,149 --> 01:38:21,027
we needed to have a shovel, shovel ready example by the end of July. I'm on that

1012
01:38:21,027 --> 01:38:26,039
track. I think look at the progress we've made, you know, with small steps and, and

1013
01:38:26,039 --> 01:38:31,075
now we're in the these discussions. I really appreciate. Uh, supervisor Clover's

1014
01:38:31,075 --> 01:38:36,669
input and Supervisor Long's input because that tells me what I need to come back

1015
01:38:36,669 --> 01:38:41,075
with, um, as far as some of these issues, of course, Doctor Vinuca has, you know,

1016
01:38:41,095 --> 01:38:48,006
gone to the next level is forming an exploratory committee that in itself is progress.

1017
01:38:48,314 --> 01:38:56,015
But I, I have an a I had a a plan. I said I'd get from here to there and David Rickert

1018
01:38:56,015 --> 01:39:01,745
gave me very explicit, you know, instruction that he wants things to finish. He,

1019
01:39:01,754 --> 01:39:06,935
he wants to have a completed study, uh, and we're on track to complete. Yeah, another

1020
01:39:06,935 --> 01:39:12,419
thing Supervisor Harman is, uh. There's, there's other counties like Wanaka, the

1021
01:39:12,419 --> 01:39:17,979
chair for uh Rossman, Glen County. I mean, we'll put these letters together. There's

1022
01:39:17,979 --> 01:39:22,066
a lot more coming that is not even stated in terms of other, other counties that

1023
01:39:22,066 --> 01:39:26,009
are looking at leaning in, how they're gonna lean in. I don't want to slow it down.

1024
01:39:26,299 --> 01:39:30,379
We're gonna go ahead and take the vote before we take a vote, I'd like one last comment.

1025
01:39:30,005 --> 01:39:36,379
So I was not in favor of the contract to begin with. I made that very vocal. Um,

1026
01:39:36,589 --> 01:39:41,099
so that has been legitimately decided by our board and I respect that process. So

1027
01:39:41,099 --> 01:39:48,091
that is why I am voting to second supervisor plumbers motion to put

1028
01:39:48,091 --> 01:39:53,825
these additional uh alterations to the contract. Act originally, so doesn't mean

1029
01:39:53,825 --> 01:39:59,305
I supported the original contract. I still don't, but going forward, I support his

1030
01:39:59,305 --> 01:40:04,665
and I respect our board's decision at the prior time. So just out of curiosity, go

1031
01:40:04,665 --> 01:40:09,455
ahead, you're gonna say something. Just out of curiosity, I mean, is there, um, what

1032
01:40:09,625 --> 01:40:13,254
I guess we don't have to beat it up. I'm just, I, I'm, I'm a little surprised at

1033
01:40:13,254 --> 01:40:18,299
the. Uh, what this group and Supervisor plumber's been a part of that. I've been

1034
01:40:18,299 --> 01:40:22,006
a part of that. Doctor Danuka, Doctor Hall at Simpson, I mean, the amount of stuff

1035
01:40:22,006 --> 01:40:25,939
that's been done in such a short amount of time, do you, do you think it's been a

1036
01:40:25,939 --> 01:40:32,012
wasted $7000? Well, that's, that's a question you're asking for my opinion, so I

1037
01:40:32,012 --> 01:40:38,399
like it. I will give you my opinion. My opinion is that this is a very complex issue

1038
01:40:38,399 --> 01:40:44,000
and a matter. Um, I'm not in favor of the county partnering to develop a medical

1039
01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:49,000
school uh with the debt service that I've outlined of $60 million that we're going

1040
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:54,068
to start paying debt service in a 10 year, 11 year lag time before we are producing

1041
01:40:54,068 --> 01:40:59,047
physicians. That's the numbers don't make sense to me. I was not in favor of this

1042
01:40:59,047 --> 01:41:05,006
to begin with because I didn't feel Mr. Street had the qualifications, so you're

1043
01:41:05,006 --> 01:41:10,085
asking the question, the qualifications, and I, I think there are other avenues of

1044
01:41:11,022 --> 01:41:16,002
people in our community that have been looking at the doctor shortage and recruitment

1045
01:41:16,002 --> 01:41:21,029
crisis which is legitimate. We have, we don't. have enough doctors here and physicians

1046
01:41:21,029 --> 01:41:27,529
and we don't cover all across all specialties. We tend to have, you know, more family

1047
01:41:27,091 --> 01:41:32,859
care providers than we do some of our specialists. So it's a really complex problem,

1048
01:41:32,087 --> 01:41:38,009
and I don't think this contract is going to produce something that's Um, going to

1049
01:41:38,009 --> 01:41:42,569
meaningfully move the needle in that direction. So, but, but is it, is it troubling

1050
01:41:42,569 --> 01:41:47,009
to you that the medical community had that study saying that we have 123% of the

1051
01:41:47,009 --> 01:41:50,089
doctors needed? I mean, those are the experts you're leaning on and yet they were

1052
01:41:50,089 --> 01:41:56,259
so off, it's embarrassing. It's embarrassing 123%. So I mean those are the experts

1053
01:41:56,259 --> 01:42:00,014
you're leaning on and we're bringing something different. I'm just, I, what I'm excited

1054
01:42:00,014 --> 01:42:04,077
about because again we haven't even talked about uh CEO Rickert myself going back

1055
01:42:04,077 --> 01:42:09,074
to the USDA during NATO and having those conversations with or with uh Congressman

1056
01:42:09,074 --> 01:42:14,379
the Mals office about a demonstration project and the and the possible, um, hundreds

1057
01:42:14,379 --> 01:42:17,399
of millions of dollars that are out there for rural healthcare and again we got all

1058
01:42:17,399 --> 01:42:19,037
of this for $7000 so

1059
01:42:21,062 --> 01:42:28,077
I can I put you on the spot, CEO Rickard. And, and hear what you have to say. Before

1060
01:42:28,077 --> 01:42:34,035
we go to a vote. Uh, well, what specifically would you like to hear, Supervisor Harman?

1061
01:42:34,007 --> 01:42:40,066
Well, in regards to what uh Mr. Street was talking about, you specifically gave him

1062
01:42:40,066 --> 01:42:45,109
marching orders. Yes, so we were given very clear direction from the board as far

1063
01:42:45,109 --> 01:42:49,054
as coming back with a shovel ready project by the end of the term of his project.

1064
01:42:49,549 --> 01:42:54,669
We've had a number of meetings, uh, a lot of research done by both Mr. Street and,

1065
01:42:54,087 --> 01:42:59,669
uh, Supervisor, Plummer on this topic. I think we've made significant progress. I

1066
01:42:59,669 --> 01:43:03,095
think some of the recommendations made and support, I think that's important is one

1067
01:43:03,095 --> 01:43:09,509
of the biggest hurdles we have isn't the $60 million. Uh, target which we're hopeful

1068
01:43:09,509 --> 01:43:14,109
that worst case scenario would involve uh participation by the county, but we're

1069
01:43:14,109 --> 01:43:18,229
looking at grants, we're looking at state funding, federal funding, other participation

1070
01:43:18,229 --> 01:43:22,083
from other entities, not just us, so those are all questions that have to be asked

1071
01:43:22,083 --> 01:43:28,054
and will be brought back to the board for consideration, but um. Uh, there's some

1072
01:43:28,054 --> 01:43:32,339
valid points and some good ideas I thought Supervisor Plummer brought forward as

1073
01:43:32,339 --> 01:43:37,014
far as residencies and other very technical aspects that we have to look at, consider,

1074
01:43:37,149 --> 01:43:41,609
and bring back for consideration. And at this point I think we're ready to bring

1075
01:43:41,609 --> 01:43:46,299
in the the educational medical experts to bring it to the next level because there's

1076
01:43:46,299 --> 01:43:53,054
only so far we can go with a limited amount of material we have. Thank you. Yeah.

1077
01:43:54,299 --> 01:44:00,169
All right. We'll start to my left with uh Ms. Blankenship. OK, Supervisor Long. So

1078
01:44:00,169 --> 01:44:05,002
we're taking a vote then on supervisor plumber's motion and you seconded it. Uh,

1079
01:44:05,025 --> 01:44:09,729
yes, I support it. Supervisor Kelstrom. So I don't think there's any reason to amend

1080
01:44:09,729 --> 01:44:12,049
the contract. I think they're already doing the work that is being asked here, so

1081
01:44:12,049 --> 01:44:17,049
I'm going to vote no. Supervisor cry. Yeah, it's no, it's more bureaucracy. Supervisor

1082
01:44:17,049 --> 01:44:24,097
Harman? No, and supervisor plumber. Fails 2 to 3. OK, moving on to public comment.

1083
01:44:25,091 --> 01:44:28,589
Thank you, Doctor Danuka. Thank you, Chris. Thank you, Doctor Moo.

1084
01:44:31,709 --> 01:44:39,054
OK, so, uh, chair, we have, um, let's see, we have 20 speakers, so they'll be limited

1085
01:44:39,054 --> 01:44:44,819
to 2 minutes. Is that correct? Correct. OK. First up is Laurie Bridgeford, followed

1086
01:44:44,819 --> 01:44:49,339
by Susan Wies, then Jayden Treadway, then Rich Glardo. If I called your name, if

1087
01:44:49,339 --> 01:44:51,049
you could please get in queue. Thank you.

1088
01:44:54,729 --> 01:44:55,005
I know it's the wrong

1089
01:45:14,319 --> 01:45:17,074
Good morning Cha chair and board. Uh, I would like to thank the, uh, Shasta Lake,

1090
01:45:18,012 --> 01:45:22,064
um, City for, uh, sponsoring and hosting us, and I'm sure I can speak for everyone,

1091
01:45:23,018 --> 01:45:25,959
uh, on the gratefulness that we had a place to, uh.

1092
01:45:28,077 --> 01:45:35,068
I'm so sorry that we've had to have some disruptions. I had to make an official complaint

1093
01:45:35,068 --> 01:45:41,000
on the conduct behavior because of the disturbances, so that was sent to several

1094
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:44,043
of you. I don't know if I need to put one more in the box just for the heck of it,

1095
01:45:44,439 --> 01:45:50,097
but um. Uh, I'm glad you, you are giving people warnings. It's, it's a hard thing

1096
01:45:50,097 --> 01:45:56,064
to do, but it's, uh, it's we, we make a room safe. And business being safe when you

1097
01:45:56,064 --> 01:46:00,319
feel safe coming up here and you don't need to have a sheriff person escort you.

1098
01:46:00,459 --> 01:46:04,799
I, I, I hope I never need to have that. In fact, my last thing I want to say about

1099
01:46:04,799 --> 01:46:09,008
conduct and behavior is we had at the other locations Stephen King outburst. Well,

1100
01:46:09,016 --> 01:46:13,008
he's now in jail for what, attempted murder. There are people that do not know how

1101
01:46:13,008 --> 01:46:18,669
to control themselves, and so I'm very grateful when we have sheriff or security.

1102
01:46:19,899 --> 01:46:24,045
Uh, I'd like to just address in a little bit of time left on. Regarding the budgets

1103
01:46:24,045 --> 01:46:30,089
coming up and um last week we had Doctor Moo give a presentation on COVID vaccine

1104
01:46:30,089 --> 01:46:35,609
adverse reactions. Uh there is a meeting the day after last meeting, it was a seven

1105
01:46:35,609 --> 01:46:41,081
hour meeting by the FDA um. 7 hours and we had one of our local persons uh won the

1106
01:46:41,081 --> 01:46:46,049
lottery to be one of the uh public speakers and that was Doctor Brian Hooker and

1107
01:46:46,049 --> 01:46:51,049
uh Ron Owens was also one of the lucky lottery winners. So it's a 7 hour thing. It's

1108
01:46:51,049 --> 01:46:53,029
a toxic product. It should have a class one.

1109
01:46:55,109 --> 01:47:00,085
Recall, it's dangerous. It's not safe. It's called the Class One, most severe reactions,

1110
01:47:00,091 --> 01:47:06,549
which include death. So lots of people have been harmed and died from it. So I want

1111
01:47:06,549 --> 01:47:10,083
this to be a warning to our county that we have been told alerted many, many, many

1112
01:47:10,083 --> 01:47:16,049
times for years. This thing is still on the market for 5 years. Thank you, thank

1113
01:47:16,049 --> 01:47:16,029
you.

1114
01:47:20,095 --> 01:47:26,069
Susan Wiese, followed by Jayden Tredway, followed by Richardo, then Kim Moore. Yes,

1115
01:47:26,149 --> 01:47:26,609
um,

1116
01:47:29,074 --> 01:47:36,149
I'm here to talk to you again, 3 years into this talking to you, the board again

1117
01:47:36,439 --> 01:47:42,006
about how you make decisions, your policies. I've been saying for 3 years now, over

1118
01:47:42,006 --> 01:47:48,041
and over again. That it appears that there's a lot of backdoor deals going on here

1119
01:47:48,939 --> 01:47:54,129
and I think it's very obvious to anybody that pays attention that this is the case

1120
01:47:54,899 --> 01:48:01,029
and it's somebody mentioned it's a pattern, yeah, you have a pattern. Of hiring people

1121
01:48:01,005 --> 01:48:05,919
that are not qualified, of getting rid of people who don't agree with your political

1122
01:48:05,919 --> 01:48:11,077
agenda, at least that I've got to speak to Mr. Kelson, Mr. Cry and about that because

1123
01:48:11,077 --> 01:48:16,089
that's your the past. We have new board members now, but You get rid of people. You

1124
01:48:16,089 --> 01:48:22,009
have many people who are so qualified and because they don't meet your goals of being

1125
01:48:22,009 --> 01:48:26,919
super conservative, you vote them out, you choose somebody else who agrees with your

1126
01:48:26,919 --> 01:48:31,089
policies politically, and that is not where a board of supervisors should be directing

1127
01:48:31,089 --> 01:48:36,049
their energies on politics, and that's what happens over and over again here, you

1128
01:48:36,049 --> 01:48:43,319
know, you hired Mr. Clint Chris Street, he had no medical background.

1129
01:48:44,016 --> 01:48:48,509
And I think there were only two people that were on the committee to choose him,

1130
01:48:48,569 --> 01:48:54,029
I think, correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. Rickard and one other person, and you know,

1131
01:48:54,149 --> 01:49:01,149
to spend $40,000 on someone without opening it up to the public of people who want

1132
01:49:01,149 --> 01:49:07,039
to join or apply for the job is unthinkable. I'm not saying he can't do the work.

1133
01:49:07,047 --> 01:49:12,041
That's not my point. I'm not complaining about him. I'm complaining about your policies

1134
01:49:12,041 --> 01:49:13,058
and how you hire.

1135
01:49:15,379 --> 01:49:20,339
Clint Curtis, I went to his speech on Saturday. He might, he probably has, he has

1136
01:49:20,339 --> 01:49:24,058
some good ideas and I, I'm, as someone said next to me, we're all for fair elections,

1137
01:49:24,066 --> 01:49:27,018
all of us in this room and

1138
01:49:30,509 --> 01:49:35,169
Next up, Jayden Treadway followed by Richardo, then Kim Moore, then Delbert Davis.

1139
01:49:39,709 --> 01:49:46,439
What's the timer? I can't see this. You're going. And the number of homeless of Shasta

1140
01:49:46,439 --> 01:49:54,279
County at our last count in 2023 was just about 1200 more than

1141
01:49:54,279 --> 01:50:00,001
the previous year, and almost half of those were unsheltered encampments on the and

1142
01:50:00,001 --> 01:50:06,439
on the streets. We do not yet have access to the 2025 count, so how many more do

1143
01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:11,097
you suppose do we have now? The developing diamonds community plan to heal homelessness

1144
01:50:11,097 --> 01:50:16,047
has determined through research and personal experience that the vast majority of

1145
01:50:16,047 --> 01:50:22,049
the chronic homeless who are out of the loop for an appropriate shelter are neurodivergent.

1146
01:50:22,077 --> 01:50:28,379
People that are inherently very intelligent, very creative, very focused on problem

1147
01:50:28,379 --> 01:50:34,001
solving, but do not think and respond to their environment in the typical way. For

1148
01:50:34,001 --> 01:50:38,859
that reason, they have been maligned and degraded for the whole of their lives and

1149
01:50:38,859 --> 01:50:45,058
possibly and often generations prior. They do not fit into the typical shelter and

1150
01:50:45,058 --> 01:50:51,959
developmental programs and refuse to be driven into them. Anti-camping laws typically

1151
01:50:51,959 --> 01:50:59,091
cost the public up to $17,000 to dismantle for for 200 people, for our

1152
01:50:59,091 --> 01:51:06,549
600 encamped homelessness, that's $10.2 million for each suite

1153
01:51:07,016 --> 01:51:12,959
plus the cost of locating the scattered remnants to provide mental health and basic

1154
01:51:12,959 --> 01:51:20,039
life support services. In California to relocate them cost up to $44,000 per tent,

1155
01:51:20,066 --> 01:51:25,979
and the neurodivergent that were forced into these shelters only returned to their

1156
01:51:25,979 --> 01:51:31,002
encampments because the program's social environment and demands trigger their mental

1157
01:51:31,002 --> 01:51:36,979
health crises. Data on the successes in homeless housing reports only show.

1158
01:51:40,058 --> 01:51:44,979
Richard, followed by Kim Moore, then Delbert Davis, then Larry S.

1159
01:51:52,759 --> 01:52:00,569
Uh, good morning. Whoa. Um It's a little highly unorthodox that you're using Mr.

1160
01:52:00,058 --> 01:52:05,081
Larmer as your sergeant in arms. I think that's very irregular and actually very

1161
01:52:05,081 --> 01:52:09,093
inappropriate. If you want to call a disturbance, have him issue his legal opinion,

1162
01:52:09,095 --> 01:52:13,859
and that gentleman over there, that highly paid professional law enforcement officer,

1163
01:52:13,939 --> 01:52:18,001
he's the muscle. Nothing else should be happening. Mr. Larmer should not be getting

1164
01:52:18,001 --> 01:52:24,589
out of his seat. The militia 3 years ago. Supervisor Les Baugh talked about the militia

1165
01:52:24,589 --> 01:52:28,669
at a meeting in a very positive light. The militia is constitutional at the state

1166
01:52:28,669 --> 01:52:33,069
level and the federal level, 2nd Amendment, and we have a proud militia that I'm

1167
01:52:33,069 --> 01:52:39,012
a member of in this county, proudly, by the way. Um, I know Mr. Uri is really good

1168
01:52:39,012 --> 01:52:43,759
about following laws and bills, so Assembly Bill 331, he probably is already following

1169
01:52:43,759 --> 01:52:48,359
it, and I hope he continues to report on that. I hope this board could do a letter

1170
01:52:48,359 --> 01:52:53,008
of opposition to the state of California if maybe I've missed it to in order to oppose

1171
01:52:53,008 --> 01:52:57,959
Assembly Bill 331. We have a local election petition going around now, perfectly

1172
01:52:57,959 --> 01:53:02,064
constitutional, perfectly lawful, and the people that are lying saying that the things

1173
01:53:02,064 --> 01:53:07,359
in there are illegal or gaslighting you. There are things in this petition that are

1174
01:53:07,359 --> 01:53:12,549
perfectly legal and if there are some things that are um Controversially legally,

1175
01:53:12,075 --> 01:53:19,001
they will be put into court through the severability process. So perfectly legal

1176
01:53:19,001 --> 01:53:23,007
and constitutional to petition your government. This petition is in place because

1177
01:53:23,007 --> 01:53:29,859
we don't like what the state is doing. That's the point. That is exactly the point.

1178
01:53:30,033 --> 01:53:35,047
So no more lies about that. I would appreciate it, um. And I have one last thing,

1179
01:53:35,549 --> 01:53:42,012
but I'll save it for our 4. Thank you. Moore, followed by Delbert Davis, followed

1180
01:53:42,012 --> 01:53:47,669
by Larry S, then David Halligan. Kim, I'm gonna throw this in real quick, um, regarding

1181
01:53:47,669 --> 01:53:54,037
Mr. Street's presentation, um, I want to state that I, I was in that category where

1182
01:53:54,037 --> 01:53:58,939
you guys pay $11,000 annually, but I left because my doctor left Shasta Regional

1183
01:53:58,939 --> 01:54:03,089
Medical Center and he went into a private practice. So now instead of the state or

1184
01:54:03,089 --> 01:54:10,097
the feds having to pay $11,000 for me annually, I pay $1150 for myself, and

1185
01:54:10,097 --> 01:54:14,041
I can go to the doctors whenever I want and I don't face these programs, and I think

1186
01:54:14,041 --> 01:54:20,979
both of you two are lizards anyway. Residency program can be used at the Woodlands

1187
01:54:20,979 --> 01:54:26,005
and I believe that every project, housing project, residential project that is receiving

1188
01:54:26,005 --> 01:54:30,062
state or federal funding should have to participate in the residency program, and

1189
01:54:30,062 --> 01:54:35,259
I'd like to see you guys using the existing campus of Simpson College. I'm not into

1190
01:54:35,259 --> 01:54:40,259
spending a bunch of money on a new facility. I understand that big scam and how it

1191
01:54:40,259 --> 01:54:44,066
works by when we had the builder come in Palm communities out of Irvine, California

1192
01:54:44,066 --> 01:54:49,002
and build the woodlands. It's a Ponzi scheme. It's not helping the people and anybody

1193
01:54:49,002 --> 01:54:55,029
who tells you it is, it's full of shit. So we need a meeting. Um, after arriving

1194
01:54:55,029 --> 01:55:01,729
here, I realized that the section D, it's the right title, the right date that the

1195
01:55:01,729 --> 01:55:05,024
wording has been changed. The good news is I have a copy of the original at home

1196
01:55:05,024 --> 01:55:08,439
and I'm gonna go home and dissect it, and I'll be putting it on the projector during

1197
01:55:08,439 --> 01:55:15,549
the next meetings. So, um, We, my biggest concern is that we have one tenant who's

1198
01:55:15,549 --> 01:55:19,047
about ready to die, not because of a health condition, but because the county isn't

1199
01:55:19,047 --> 01:55:23,027
doing their job and so I want a meeting with you guys. I wanna, I wanna try to save

1200
01:55:23,027 --> 01:55:28,899
her life, but you need to pay attention. So we have another MHSA tenant who's running

1201
01:55:28,899 --> 01:55:33,095
around right now. She's the one who's like leading to this other woman's death, and

1202
01:55:33,095 --> 01:55:38,047
she's presenting herself as a peer support specialist to RPD, and she isn't. She's

1203
01:55:38,047 --> 01:55:44,002
not a county employee. So this is dangerous crap. 2 minutes doesn't cover it. I need

1204
01:55:44,002 --> 01:55:51,479
a meeting with you guys before this die. Oh. Delbert Davis, followed by Larry S,

1205
01:55:51,529 --> 01:55:57,047
then David Halligan, followed by Dolores Lucero. Um, I lived in the Woodlands apartment

1206
01:55:57,047 --> 01:56:04,004
for 8 years now. OK, ever since Pam took over, that's when the harassment started.

1207
01:56:04,077 --> 01:56:10,319
Jeff has been targeting me for the last 6 years. He's making false claims against

1208
01:56:10,319 --> 01:56:14,919
me and trying to get me evicted. I have a meeting with him tomorrow about my eviction.

1209
01:56:16,045 --> 01:56:23,089
OK, HUD has told him to fix my. OK, my dishwasher has been broke for 5 years.

1210
01:56:24,379 --> 01:56:29,079
My smoke detector for 3 years. HUD has told them to fix it and they refused.

1211
01:56:38,095 --> 01:56:45,339
I need an app and I need with you able a meeting with you to be able to tell you

1212
01:56:45,339 --> 01:56:45,077
more.

1213
01:56:48,002 --> 01:56:55,399
Thank you. Larry S followed by David Halligan, then Dolores Lucero, followed by Jeffter.

1214
01:56:56,729 --> 01:57:00,529
Morning board. In keeping with your jurisdiction to send letters, and I know you

1215
01:57:00,529 --> 01:57:04,041
like to send letters, I want to recommend two quick letters that you might send to

1216
01:57:04,041 --> 01:57:05,029
President Trump.

1217
01:57:07,069 --> 01:57:13,459
Of the $5 trillion that the federal government receives. In taxes and revenue from

1218
01:57:13,459 --> 01:57:19,006
the 50 states, California pays almost 13% of that. President Trump wants to withhold

1219
01:57:19,006 --> 01:57:22,002
federal funding from the state of California.

1220
01:57:24,379 --> 01:57:31,085
So tell President Trump. That he can keep his 610 billion. That the federal government

1221
01:57:31,085 --> 01:57:37,004
sends California and we'll keep the $700 billion that we send to the federal government

1222
01:57:37,004 --> 01:57:41,799
and we'll be $90 billion ahead. So tell Mr. Trump to put that in his pipe and smoke

1223
01:57:41,799 --> 01:57:41,959
it.

1224
01:57:45,043 --> 01:57:50,052
The other letter would go something like this. We heard glowing accolades from you

1225
01:57:50,052 --> 01:57:57,056
yesterday at Arlington National Cemetery in terms of our fallen warriors. Honor valor.

1226
01:57:59,001 --> 01:58:04,068
Love of country, defending of the Constitution. You read a teleprompter speech that

1227
01:58:04,068 --> 01:58:11,005
was written by someone else and you read it very Wrote And without passion.

1228
01:58:12,049 --> 01:58:18,649
You spoke of characteristics that you do not possess. You are unfit to be the commander

1229
01:58:18,649 --> 01:58:24,569
in chief of the United States. We call for you to resign immediately. We're referring

1230
01:58:24,569 --> 01:58:30,093
to our veterans and fallen comrades as losers and suckers and what was in it for

1231
01:58:30,093 --> 01:58:36,008
them. And while you're at it, take that white supremacist Pete Hegseth with you.

1232
01:58:38,439 --> 01:58:42,919
David Halligan, followed by Dolores Lucero, followed by Jeff Gorder, then Leslie.

1233
01:58:43,099 --> 01:58:47,819
Thank you board. I want to go back to the scene of the train wreck at the last board

1234
01:58:47,819 --> 01:58:53,419
meeting, the designated marketing organization, you know, uh, Nigel Skeets Group,

1235
01:58:53,005 --> 01:58:59,609
the Shasta County Chamber, Mr. Cry, your, your donor, your election, uh, consultant.

1236
01:59:00,006 --> 01:59:04,000
Well, let's, let's back that up and go to the 12:10 board meeting when the award

1237
01:59:04,000 --> 01:59:08,899
was supposed to happen on the tourism and marketing branding. Reading Chambers scored

1238
01:59:08,899 --> 01:59:16,609
83A. Shasta Chambers scored 68.3%, well below 19.5% below that. The

1239
01:59:16,609 --> 01:59:22,529
board met on 12/10, and they discussed the award. They decided to go another direction.

1240
01:59:22,079 --> 01:59:25,093
Here's Mr. Cry with his change of mind.

1241
01:59:38,085 --> 01:59:45,083
To say that I Put this on And then look at Budget

1242
01:59:45,083 --> 01:59:48,299
adjustment of tourism and

1243
01:59:51,008 --> 01:59:56,589
So that's just where I am. Sure you want to put that in the motion I'll put that

1244
01:59:56,589 --> 02:00:02,066
in. So Mr. Kry decided to put that in a motion which passed 50 to revisit it at the

1245
02:00:02,066 --> 02:00:06,939
June budget meetings, which I totally agree with you there, Mr. Cry, but what you

1246
02:00:06,939 --> 02:00:10,054
did by saying that is you told all the other groups, you told the board, you told

1247
02:00:10,054 --> 02:00:13,062
the community that you were putting this on pause and then you get on them because

1248
02:00:13,062 --> 02:00:17,799
they didn't send this letter that was dated April 1st, that that's just totally BS.

1249
02:00:17,979 --> 02:00:22,025
And then for you, Mr. uh Cry, to stand up here at the last board meeting and say

1250
02:00:22,459 --> 02:00:24,899
that the uh the uh.

1251
02:00:27,609 --> 02:00:31,077
Scores were sabotaged. That's what you said the scores were sabotaged. Where did

1252
02:00:31,077 --> 02:00:35,529
that come from, Mr. Kelstrom? You were the one of the three that were on there. You're

1253
02:00:35,529 --> 02:00:39,000
still sitting up there. What was sabotaged? I never heard you say anything about

1254
02:00:39,209 --> 02:00:44,979
the votes or the scores were sabotaged, really sabotaged. Thank you, followed by

1255
02:00:44,979 --> 02:00:52,004
Jeff Border. Followed by Leslie, followed by Judy Salter.

1256
02:00:54,074 --> 02:01:02,012
I hate these meetings. I actually do. I hate you 3. I can't stand that you are

1257
02:01:02,012 --> 02:01:07,359
part of the problem in this county. You make bad decisions. You have 4ky like a little

1258
02:01:07,359 --> 02:01:12,008
puppet. He doesn't even know what he talks about or what he says. All he has to,

1259
02:01:12,279 --> 02:01:17,049
all you have to do is Kevin pull his little strings. More dumber than he is now when

1260
02:01:17,049 --> 02:01:23,529
he speaks and he acts like he's not gonna vote on what your vote because it's a done

1261
02:01:23,529 --> 02:01:28,037
deal before you attend these meetings and that's that's the bottom line. This place

1262
02:01:28,037 --> 02:01:33,085
is corrupt you waste and abuse and you commit fraud in this county. That's what you

1263
02:01:33,085 --> 02:01:40,091
do, um, this, um, Mr. Clint Curtis. On the the town

1264
02:01:40,091 --> 02:01:47,041
hall meeting they had and he announced his campaign during a private town hall meeting,

1265
02:01:47,589 --> 02:01:54,569
you know, he violated multiple laws just being there and announcing him running for

1266
02:01:54,081 --> 02:02:00,027
the registered voter, he actually violated some laws that you should be aware if

1267
02:02:00,027 --> 02:02:05,996
he's an attorney. He actually violated multiple laws on that alone. So the laws he

1268
02:02:05,996 --> 02:02:12,786
violated is actually uh let me see, there's multiple here. The first one is I'm gonna

1269
02:02:12,786 --> 02:02:19,235
think it's very important is the First Amendment equal protection of viol equal protection

1270
02:02:19,235 --> 02:02:24,332
of violation. You can't discriminate people to come and. Attend in the meeting he's

1271
02:02:24,332 --> 02:02:30,282
talking about elections elections. The first thing he said he's gonna bring to to

1272
02:02:30,282 --> 02:02:35,412
the counties transparency. How can he call transparency when he actually attended

1273
02:02:35,412 --> 02:02:41,691
the meeting and he knows that he actually what Richard called it Richard called it

1274
02:02:41,691 --> 02:02:49,056
something to do with black list. Uh, but I'll go out into it, but anyways,

1275
02:02:49,072 --> 02:02:56,839
he broke multiple laws and you actually allowing him to break laws. Jeff Porter,

1276
02:02:57,000 --> 02:03:04,002
followed by Leslie, followed by Judy Salter, then Suzie. Yeah, hire a liar. Thank

1277
02:03:04,002 --> 02:03:04,043
you.

1278
02:03:12,007 --> 02:03:12,709
Of.

1279
02:03:15,169 --> 02:03:18,319
Yeah. So, please sit down.

1280
02:03:21,419 --> 02:03:26,979
Uh, you may board may recall, um, in January of this year, Supervisor Cry spoke before

1281
02:03:26,979 --> 02:03:32,609
a crowd of Trump supporters at the Capitol in Sacramento, and his, his final quote,

1282
02:03:32,074 --> 02:03:38,129
his rousing quote to the throng was, quote, Our little county is as corrupt as anything.

1283
02:03:38,819 --> 02:03:44,012
Um, now I, I suggested that we not appoint Chair Cry as our tourism and marketing

1284
02:03:44,012 --> 02:03:48,649
director for that comment, but unfortunately his comment has turned out to be true.

1285
02:03:49,004 --> 02:03:54,279
Uh, but it's projection on Mr. Kry's part. It describes the action that's occurred

1286
02:03:54,279 --> 02:03:59,759
with this three member majority. Uh, the street contract was just one example. There

1287
02:03:59,759 --> 02:04:04,439
are many more that I could name, but 2 minutes is not enough. The most recent was

1288
02:04:04,439 --> 02:04:09,091
the tourism and designation contract, tourism marketing designation contract. Mr.

1289
02:04:09,919 --> 02:04:15,007
Halligan said the motion by Mr. Cry in December was. Bring the matter back before

1290
02:04:15,007 --> 02:04:20,007
the boards when 3 new members would be able to weigh in as to whether new bids would

1291
02:04:20,007 --> 02:04:26,056
be given out. Then Mr. Cry said he's been talking to James Mazada of the chamber.

1292
02:04:26,066 --> 02:04:33,089
Mazada writes Cry a letter on April 1st asking to be designated as the official marketing

1293
02:04:33,089 --> 02:04:39,569
director. It's directed to cry. Well, apparently cry didn't want to address the situation

1294
02:04:39,569 --> 02:04:44,006
because Nigel Street is his man and he didn't want to be connected, so he gives it

1295
02:04:44,006 --> 02:04:49,359
to Mr. Kelstrom to bring up. It's just three little letters, folks, that's all it

1296
02:04:49,359 --> 02:04:57,134
is. Was Reading Chamber. No. Were the other organizations that won out over

1297
02:04:57,134 --> 02:05:03,774
Shasta Chamber notified? No. We just go forward and we give the contract or the designation

1298
02:05:03,774 --> 02:05:11,044
to somebody that's contributed to cry or has done something. Think about that. Thank

1299
02:05:11,044 --> 02:05:14,845
you. Leslie followed by Judy Salter, then, then Steve Hahn.

1300
02:05:17,002 --> 02:05:22,529
And his lawsuit's gonna cost us how much? OK. So, um, long.

1301
02:05:24,669 --> 02:05:29,399
We need to get together. We said we'd meet, get together and discuss. We haven't

1302
02:05:29,399 --> 02:05:34,037
had that happen, so unfortunately this is how I get to talk to you. Your behavior,

1303
02:05:34,549 --> 02:05:41,339
you got to do better. This the last couple of meetings I got up here after that Shasta

1304
02:05:41,339 --> 02:05:45,799
no video and I told you that I thought that was out of bounds and unacceptable, but

1305
02:05:45,799 --> 02:05:51,068
then your behavior has been the same. You have character assassinated multiple people

1306
02:05:51,068 --> 02:05:57,006
that come up here to do business for the county. And people who live in glass houses

1307
02:05:57,006 --> 02:06:01,037
shouldn't throw rocks. I'm sorry, I don't respect that. That was not that not OK.

1308
02:06:01,066 --> 02:06:08,209
Think about things before you do it. It's, it's not a good look. Um. Anyway,

1309
02:06:10,012 --> 02:06:15,012
I today today was an example of it and that's why I put it on there when you started

1310
02:06:15,012 --> 02:06:21,279
your board report and you opened with the this is, you know, my county only business

1311
02:06:21,279 --> 02:06:25,075
I appreciate every single thing they talk about in their board reports. I appreciate

1312
02:06:26,008 --> 02:06:31,074
Chris Kelstrom's ability. And availability for the community to connect with him

1313
02:06:31,074 --> 02:06:37,005
at every one of those events he attends. He is one of the most reachable supervisors

1314
02:06:37,005 --> 02:06:42,939
that we have. I appreciate every Friday's Kevin's Coffee where people can come and

1315
02:06:42,939 --> 02:06:46,879
approach him. I've been asking you for months for a meeting. This is where I get

1316
02:06:46,879 --> 02:06:51,052
to talk to you, so I appreciate that they talk about meals they go to and meetings

1317
02:06:51,052 --> 02:06:56,004
they attend and quirky attending different events on his ranch and hosting people

1318
02:06:56,004 --> 02:07:00,004
and bringing people in because they're accessible. I appreciate that every time I've

1319
02:07:00,004 --> 02:07:07,066
reached out to Matt I got a response, so. Maybe fix that. Um, and then also Clint

1320
02:07:07,066 --> 02:07:12,779
Curtis, it's my honor, our honor that we actually got to host the interview where

1321
02:07:12,779 --> 02:07:19,049
you announced your candidacy on Mountaintop Media. So, thank you. Judy Salter, followed

1322
02:07:19,049 --> 02:07:22,027
by Moe, followed by Steve Kahn, then Benjamin.

1323
02:07:28,022 --> 02:07:35,419
Um, I may be the one who's confused, but I just wanted to make sure that it was clear

1324
02:07:35,419 --> 02:07:42,089
that Shasta Community Health has a residency program and has for 10 years, and all

1325
02:07:42,089 --> 02:07:47,479
of their residents are locals. It's um

1326
02:07:49,001 --> 02:07:56,939
SRMC has an internal residency program and those are foreign residents, so it's

1327
02:07:56,939 --> 02:08:03,009
not community health and I think that distinction was not clear in the presentation

1328
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so. Actually, Shasta Community Health has family practice residency

1329
02:08:11,109 --> 02:08:18,033
and a nurse practitioner and physician's assistant fellowship. Mercy has a family

1330
02:08:18,033 --> 02:08:24,066
practice residency and SRMC has an internal medicine residency.

1331
02:08:26,014 --> 02:08:33,459
So if I were looking to go forward, I would want to expand those programs

1332
02:08:34,002 --> 02:08:39,319
to meet the possibility that we could go, you know, to a medical school, but if we're

1333
02:08:39,319 --> 02:08:45,012
going to put money anywhere, I would certainly want to see these residencies expanded,

1334
02:08:45,229 --> 02:08:51,259
and I know conversation has been going on with UC Davis in an attempt to do this,

1335
02:08:51,027 --> 02:08:57,056
so I hope that would end up being followed. Uh, you know, I was honestly hoping that

1336
02:08:57,056 --> 02:09:05,016
when the board changed its composition that we as citizens might see some real

1337
02:09:05,016 --> 02:09:13,008
progress on some critical issues. Instead, I find that favoritism is still taking

1338
02:09:13,008 --> 02:09:20,083
place, taking precedence over experience and in some case qualifications. The pastor

1339
02:09:20,083 --> 02:09:26,004
eloquently asks for wisdom for this board and fairness from you.

1340
02:09:29,089 --> 02:09:36,549
Followed by Steve Kahn, followed by Benjamin No Wane, then C. Garnier. Last time

1341
02:09:36,549 --> 02:09:41,549
I touched this I got shocked. Good morning board. Hello fellow constituents. My name

1342
02:09:41,549 --> 02:09:47,035
is Monique Wile. Um, I've been coming in since September 19, 2017 and I just wanted

1343
02:09:47,035 --> 02:09:53,879
to let you guys know, um. May 4th, 1992, my sister was kidnapped, raped, and murdered,

1344
02:09:54,569 --> 02:09:59,049
and I wanted to come in here and say something completely different. And then I watched

1345
02:09:59,049 --> 02:10:05,049
a very wise man with discernment, Dr. Danuka, come up here and he gave me goosebumps

1346
02:10:05,049 --> 02:10:11,002
and he made me so happy for our vast future. This is a man laying the foundation

1347
02:10:11,002 --> 02:10:17,058
for a future community of educated individuals, and I freaking love it. After my

1348
02:10:17,058 --> 02:10:21,779
sister passed, I became a medic, a flight medic, a fire medic. Now my children are

1349
02:10:21,779 --> 02:10:26,035
following in their mother's footsteps and hopefully in 11 years my son will decide

1350
02:10:26,035 --> 02:10:31,022
to be a doctor because at one point I was studying for MCATs trying to get into Stanford

1351
02:10:31,022 --> 02:10:37,009
because I wanted to be a vein harvester, cardiology. And um I had a stroke so my

1352
02:10:37,009 --> 02:10:41,649
life completely went in a different direction, but I believe this school is something

1353
02:10:41,649 --> 02:10:47,899
that can be tangible and, and it's, it's a, it's a notion of, it's a beautiful thing

1354
02:10:47,899 --> 02:10:53,089
talking about educating a future of children to become our physicians. When I came

1355
02:10:53,089 --> 02:10:57,689
in here, I got a phone call from Shas Community Health Center and I went out there

1356
02:10:57,689 --> 02:11:00,814
while you were talking to Chris Street. I went out there to. Call them back because

1357
02:11:00,814 --> 02:11:05,495
they called me about some other individual for a pediatric appointment. So I was

1358
02:11:05,495 --> 02:11:09,134
trying to get a hold of him. I was on hold for 15 minutes just to tell them they

1359
02:11:09,134 --> 02:11:13,854
called the wrong person. So they do have a program, but you gotta understand they

1360
02:11:13,854 --> 02:11:18,564
switch positions every other year. So you're constantly seeing somebody new when

1361
02:11:18,564 --> 02:11:23,575
you've got a chronic issue. I have gout in my right hip and I've already seen 3 physicians

1362
02:11:23,575 --> 02:11:29,169
who have no idea what I'm going through. And my point being is that is not a residency

1363
02:11:29,169 --> 02:11:33,083
that is efficient to help individuals with chronic situations. We need a school to

1364
02:11:33,083 --> 02:11:37,009
educate the youth of today for the future.

1365
02:11:39,479 --> 02:11:44,359
Steve Conn, followed by Benjamin No Wane, followed by C Gardner, followed by Laura,

1366
02:11:44,052 --> 02:11:48,359
then Michelle. If I called your name, please get in queue.

1367
02:11:52,839 --> 02:11:59,459
Um, good morning, board, community members. Um, I, uh,

1368
02:12:01,459 --> 02:12:06,045
this whole medical situation, I think it's great, you know, that years from now we

1369
02:12:06,045 --> 02:12:11,006
possibly could have a medical school. I think there's a whole lot of ifs that were

1370
02:12:11,006 --> 02:12:17,093
stated by street and a whole lot of estimates that are questionable. Um, but we're

1371
02:12:17,093 --> 02:12:22,025
talking, I think a minimum of 11 years from now, and what I am concerned with is

1372
02:12:22,025 --> 02:12:26,085
the lack of positions right now. I think we need, and maybe they're going to, we're

1373
02:12:26,085 --> 02:12:32,093
only $7000 into it, which also, by the way, I think that even Street mentioned that

1374
02:12:32,093 --> 02:12:37,008
some of the things mentioned here today is going to adjust his approach. So the fact

1375
02:12:37,008 --> 02:12:40,089
that you don't want the public talking about it and you don't want the supervisors

1376
02:12:40,089 --> 02:12:48,089
questioning it, I think is well. Not correct. Anyway, um. I'm

1377
02:12:48,089 --> 02:12:51,649
very concerned about getting doctors here now and something that's going to affect

1378
02:12:51,649 --> 02:12:58,089
and help people's health soon. So this may be part of the process, but I want to

1379
02:12:58,089 --> 02:13:04,085
emphasize this point against perhaps Christ's will as far as affecting things going

1380
02:13:04,085 --> 02:13:09,129
forward because he doesn't think that should be happening right now. But it's important

1381
02:13:09,129 --> 02:13:12,729
to me, and I think it's important to most of these people that are not concerned

1382
02:13:12,729 --> 02:13:19,049
mostly with what the health we start to get health or increased number of residents

1383
02:13:19,049 --> 02:13:24,081
11 years from now, but we get some more doctors very soon. So that's my concern.

1384
02:13:25,049 --> 02:13:29,259
A lot of what Street did in his presentation was state what we already know, which

1385
02:13:29,259 --> 02:13:33,919
was that we need doctors. So a lot of that, everybody was praising the presentation,

1386
02:13:34,009 --> 02:13:41,299
but I didn't see a lot of meat there. Um, so anyway, I hope that things come out

1387
02:13:41,299 --> 02:13:46,074
better and that we can head into a direction of getting more medical professionals

1388
02:13:46,074 --> 02:13:52,649
soon. Thank you. Thank you. Benjamin No Wane, followed by C. Garnier, followed by

1389
02:13:52,649 --> 02:13:59,062
Laura, then Michelle, then Casey. All right, so, um. I'm gonna speak about an item

1390
02:13:59,062 --> 02:14:03,062
on the consent calendar. Um, I didn't think it would get a lot of attention and it

1391
02:14:03,062 --> 02:14:07,049
is uh a letter that's being written to the state, so I just, I just kind of wanted

1392
02:14:07,049 --> 02:14:13,047
to bring this to the public's attention. Um, so on the consent calendar is item C7

1393
02:14:13,047 --> 02:14:18,064
is an item uh opposing Senate Bill 681. Uh, the letter claims the bill would reduce

1394
02:14:18,064 --> 02:14:24,012
transparency by forcing landlords to bury costs inside rent. Now it's misleading

1395
02:14:24,012 --> 02:14:30,043
and honestly kind of a bit backwards. SB 681 was designed to stop deceptive rental

1396
02:14:30,043 --> 02:14:34,859
practices. It prevents landlords from advertising a low rent and tacking on special

1397
02:14:34,859 --> 02:14:39,569
fees and essentials like trash, water, and air conditioning. It doesn't remove transparency,

1398
02:14:39,007 --> 02:14:43,779
it actually creates it. It was actually not transparent it's how this item ended

1399
02:14:43,779 --> 02:14:47,068
up here. So someone decided it was a good idea to draft this letter, but it's not

1400
02:14:47,068 --> 02:14:52,439
on the regular calendar. It's buried in the agenda, hundreds of pages deep where

1401
02:14:52,439 --> 02:14:55,669
members of the public will never see it unless they're digging through every file.

1402
02:14:56,004 --> 02:14:59,359
Well, fortunately that's part of what I do. If you're going to speak on behalf of

1403
02:14:59,359 --> 02:15:02,919
the public on a statewide housing bill, especially using language that distorts the

1404
02:15:02,919 --> 02:15:09,049
intent, the public conversation should happen, not behind the scenes. Now SB 681

1405
02:15:09,049 --> 02:15:13,058
is not limiting landlords, it's about protecting tenants from misleading pricing,

1406
02:15:13,062 --> 02:15:17,097
and this letter doesn't reflect that, it reflects something else entirely. The public

1407
02:15:17,097 --> 02:15:22,016
deserves better transparency from this board and whoever is shaping its messaging.

1408
02:15:22,729 --> 02:15:23,024
Thank you.

1409
02:15:25,085 --> 02:15:29,035
Gardiner followed by Laura, then Michelle, then

1410
02:15:32,024 --> 02:15:39,041
clowns are really in full gear. Let's take a guy who was walking around town telling

1411
02:15:39,041 --> 02:15:46,018
everybody, hey, I got the CEO job. Yeah, he is also a leader of an organization that

1412
02:15:46,018 --> 02:15:52,064
does not recognize the state of California as legitimate. Oh, then this little YMCA

1413
02:15:52,064 --> 02:16:00,004
thing happened. Oh, what's up with that? Yeah, evidently, uh, there was little allegation

1414
02:16:00,004 --> 02:16:07,169
of sexual impropriety with a minor. Well, you know, we took a look at that evidently

1415
02:16:07,169 --> 02:16:13,064
and oh, had pulled his nomination. But Mr. Street knows Mr. Street knows an awful

1416
02:16:13,064 --> 02:16:18,759
lot about sexual functions and dysfunctions. He had a relationship with the cleaning

1417
02:16:18,759 --> 02:16:26,029
cart in a hotel that damaged according to the court report, his sexual ability. Oh,

1418
02:16:26,209 --> 02:16:34,015
OK. But then let's look at the financials. He was stripped of his financial uh abilities

1419
02:16:34,015 --> 02:16:42,007
by a county after losing in court twice. To try and reclaim his position.

1420
02:16:43,032 --> 02:16:45,008
This is a great guy.

1421
02:16:45,409 --> 02:16:53,009
To lead Shasta County's endeavor. Wow. So you know what, Mr. Cry,

1422
02:16:53,449 --> 02:16:58,085
we're gonna call it cronyism. It's blatant, just like your buddy Mr. Street, lost

1423
02:16:58,085 --> 02:17:05,409
a million dollars. Don't worry, don't worry. I'm gonna fix you up. We'll get you

1424
02:17:05,409 --> 02:17:12,079
a little thing, you can put a logo on your uh on your website saying, hey, Come to

1425
02:17:12,079 --> 02:17:17,075
us. We are the representatives of. Yeah, he's the representative of Shafts County,

1426
02:17:17,083 --> 02:17:24,056
all right, the representative of cronyism of corrupt business practices that continue

1427
02:17:24,056 --> 02:17:29,065
to this day. And by the way, Kevin, you charged the county what,

1428
02:17:29,669 --> 02:17:37,075
$3800 and deliver a Thank you. Laura, followed by Michelle, followed by Casey, then

1429
02:17:37,075 --> 02:17:45,056
Ghost, then Dan. Um, good morning, board. Just briefly, I also oppose our

1430
02:17:45,056 --> 02:17:50,068
county council getting up out of his seat to shush a member of the audience when

1431
02:17:50,068 --> 02:17:56,000
in the back of the room we had anarchists that were completely out of control, whooping,

1432
02:17:56,008 --> 02:18:01,076
hollering, and jeering people, mocking people. That's unacceptable to me that he

1433
02:18:01,076 --> 02:18:06,709
targeted an elder who wasn't able to hear properly, who was talking at a loud volume

1434
02:18:07,016 --> 02:18:11,036
instead of the true distractors in the back of the room. Also, I'd like to address

1435
02:18:11,036 --> 02:18:15,459
some lies that are coming from folks on this board. I won't name names, but I'm here

1436
02:18:15,459 --> 02:18:20,000
to discuss the Shasta citizen petition that would enact election reform at the local

1437
02:18:20,000 --> 02:18:24,072
level. The ability of citizens to redress their grievances is within the purview

1438
02:18:24,072 --> 02:18:30,072
of the US and the California state constitution, and the petition is is proceeding

1439
02:18:30,072 --> 02:18:36,072
lawfully within the provisions of our constitutionally guaranteed rights. Furthermore,

1440
02:18:36,076 --> 02:18:43,012
the petition. Um, process for charter counties is afforded for by the California

1441
02:18:43,012 --> 02:18:48,319
government code. Article 11 of the California Constitution provides charter counties

1442
02:18:48,319 --> 02:18:53,052
control over municipal affairs, and elections are defined in this article as a municipal

1443
02:18:53,052 --> 02:18:59,061
affair. This amendment will restore the rights that were taken from citizens by citizens

1444
02:18:59,061 --> 02:19:05,094
of Shasta County by tyrannical state overreach when AB 969 was passed in retaliation

1445
02:19:05,094 --> 02:19:10,779
for ending the Dominion contract and moving towards hand counting. The effort of

1446
02:19:10,779 --> 02:19:15,809
the citizens of Shasta County. It is well within the rights guaranteed them by law.

1447
02:19:16,139 --> 02:19:21,097
What they are asking for has been legal in the state of California for 175 years.

1448
02:19:22,022 --> 02:19:26,044
It is well within line of what the direction of the rest of the country is going

1449
02:19:26,044 --> 02:19:29,899
and moving towards under the Trump administration. Thank you.

1450
02:19:32,699 --> 02:19:39,949
Michelle, followed by Casey, then Ghost, followed by Dan. Good afternoon. I just

1451
02:19:39,949 --> 02:19:41,919
wanted to say that um

1452
02:19:44,339 --> 02:19:49,024
I mean it's been discussed enough about the problems with electronic ballots and

1453
02:19:49,024 --> 02:19:55,032
in the short time that Clint Curtis has been here, he's, uh, saved us will be about

1454
02:19:55,032 --> 02:20:02,759
$80,000 just in ballots alone. Uh, we were paying $2.20 a ballot, and we're doing

1455
02:20:02,759 --> 02:20:09,021
it, we'll be doing it locally for 77 cents, 7.9 cents, and that figures out to be

1456
02:20:09,021 --> 02:20:15,669
about. So thank you and uh my concern has been since the beginning. That that um

1457
02:20:15,669 --> 02:20:22,011
it's so easy to uh manipulate things electronically and I've said it many times it's

1458
02:20:22,011 --> 02:20:28,179
not a partisan issue for me or or for anyone. We just wanna make it as safe as possible

1459
02:20:28,179 --> 02:20:33,094
and Clint Curtis has that knowledge. He's, uh, you know, been a, um, a programmer.

1460
02:20:34,021 --> 02:20:39,071
He's a specialized as an attorney in that field, and he's, he's the only one that

1461
02:20:39,071 --> 02:20:45,000
has that knowledge, so we're fortunate to get somebody like that. And then the last

1462
02:20:45,000 --> 02:20:50,029
thing I wanted to say, um, at the last meeting that debacle with the people in the

1463
02:20:50,029 --> 02:20:54,099
masks and everything, I spoke to Mr. Larmer and Mr. Rickett about that and Mr. Rickett,

1464
02:20:55,029 --> 02:21:01,489
you were very um Kind to spend the time with me, um, and I heard that there was nothing

1465
02:21:01,489 --> 02:21:07,079
we could do about it but it just so happened that same day RFK was uh starting um

1466
02:21:07,079 --> 02:21:13,054
a conference I think with Congress and somebody in mass jumped up and he was startled

1467
02:21:13,829 --> 02:21:18,829
and the sheriff. Or whoever was in charge took her immediately out and I understand

1468
02:21:18,829 --> 02:21:25,019
that's a 403 law or something and if they're entitled to that, why can't we as just

1469
02:21:25,019 --> 02:21:30,091
a small county be entitled to the same process and have the same respect? I want

1470
02:21:30,091 --> 02:21:37,026
to come to a respectable meeting and um, you know, get things done and not be disrupted.

1471
02:21:39,269 --> 02:21:41,579
Casey followed by Ghost, then Dan.

1472
02:21:45,045 --> 02:21:52,066
Good morning. Um, I want to first of all, um, speak to Matt Plummer on, um.

1473
02:21:55,016 --> 02:22:02,039
When he ran for the seat, he ran, uh, speaking about a Pew,

1474
02:22:02,839 --> 02:22:09,004
uh, according to Pew, 20% of the public trust our government. This was with an interview

1475
02:22:09,004 --> 02:22:16,029
with Chris Valton of Bethel Church. Yet since he's been on this board, he's

1476
02:22:16,029 --> 02:22:21,329
consistently gas lit dozens of veterans and other patriots who've spent thousands

1477
02:22:21,329 --> 02:22:27,069
of hours observing Shasta County elections, who observed a plethora of violations

1478
02:22:27,069 --> 02:22:34,017
and a severely compromised system, and who demand change. You speak out of two sides

1479
02:22:34,017 --> 02:22:40,013
of your mouth. You and long consistently voting against our fair elections here in

1480
02:22:40,013 --> 02:22:45,089
Shasta County. And twice you used faulty data with no scientific evidence for your

1481
02:22:45,089 --> 02:22:52,679
decisions to make, to make excuses for a very clear corrupt anti-God agenda.

1482
02:22:54,779 --> 02:22:59,088
Our election system is not just broken, it's betraying us. The sacred rights of we

1483
02:22:59,088 --> 02:23:05,579
the people are being trampled underfoot. Our voices, our votes, our very freedoms

1484
02:23:05,579 --> 02:23:10,739
are under attack, silenced by a system that's failing to uphold the principles in

1485
02:23:10,739 --> 02:23:17,001
which it was built to protect us. Think about this not so long ago, slavery was legal.

1486
02:23:17,299 --> 02:23:22,029
Discrimination was legal, laws written by those. In power justify the oppression,

1487
02:23:22,579 --> 02:23:27,073
but laws don't make something right. History has shown us that time and time again.

1488
02:23:28,001 --> 02:23:34,094
So I ask you today, how long will we hide behind unjust laws? How long will we let

1489
02:23:34,094 --> 02:23:40,459
our rights be eroded by a system that serves itself instead of the people? To those

1490
02:23:40,459 --> 02:23:47,089
who say it's the law, so we must follow it, I say grow a backbone. Ghost followed

1491
02:23:47,089 --> 02:23:48,045
by Dan.

1492
02:23:53,007 --> 02:23:58,619
Hi, um, so I'm speaking right now because something deeply wrong and concerning happened

1493
02:23:58,619 --> 02:24:03,042
earlier in this room. Uh, you silenced a constituent before she even had the chance

1494
02:24:03,042 --> 02:24:07,094
to get to her point. Uh, she was removed without regard for her First Amendment right

1495
02:24:07,094 --> 02:24:13,399
to speak as a member of this community. So I ask you, what was the reason for this?

1496
02:24:13,649 --> 02:24:17,989
Uh, what threat did her words pose, uh, before she was even allowed to speak them.

1497
02:24:18,459 --> 02:24:23,051
This wasn't about decorum as you so claim. This was about control. This council is

1498
02:24:23,051 --> 02:24:27,047
supposed to represent all of us, not just the people that you agree with, and not

1499
02:24:27,047 --> 02:24:32,063
those who have perspectives that make you comfortable. But time and time again, we

1500
02:24:32,063 --> 02:24:38,097
see a pattern. Three members who hold a monopoly silencing dissent. Uh

1501
02:24:40,091 --> 02:24:46,051
And uh shut down opposing views and consistently intimidate and bully both members

1502
02:24:46,051 --> 02:24:52,359
on the board and the public that you serve. This is not a democracy. This is an abuse

1503
02:24:52,359 --> 02:24:56,051
of power. And let's be honest, we know why you're doing it. We know about your open

1504
02:24:56,051 --> 02:25:01,019
ties to extremist organizations, groups that promote white supremacy, division, and

1505
02:25:01,019 --> 02:25:05,066
hateful ideologies that have absolutely no room in our community.

1506
02:25:07,209 --> 02:25:12,023
When you align yourselves with hate, you lose any moral ground to talk about civility

1507
02:25:12,085 --> 02:25:18,049
or order. You don't get to demand respect while silencing those that you were elected

1508
02:25:18,049 --> 02:25:22,033
to serve. You don't get to talk about unity while aligning yourselves with division

1509
02:25:22,033 --> 02:25:26,549
and people who dehumanize others. And you don't get to hide behind procedures when

1510
02:25:26,549 --> 02:25:31,046
it's clear you're using them as weapons. The truth is that we see you, each and every

1511
02:25:31,046 --> 02:25:36,013
one of you. We see through your tactics, your alliances, and the fear mongering.

1512
02:25:36,065 --> 02:25:41,289
We will not be silenced as a community. You may control this mic, but you absolutely

1513
02:25:41,289 --> 02:25:42,429
do not control the truth.

1514
02:25:45,359 --> 02:25:47,549
Dan and Dan is your last speaker.

1515
02:25:50,489 --> 02:25:55,169
I believe these are your glasses up here. Um, hello board. It's good to be back and

1516
02:25:55,169 --> 02:26:00,599
be able to see you. I pulled in Shasta County earlier this morning and uh had another

1517
02:26:00,599 --> 02:26:05,044
adventure across town to take care of, and now I'm here. The hostility in this room

1518
02:26:05,044 --> 02:26:10,032
is unbelievable, and one of the guys mentioned Trump, and I've heard about Trump

1519
02:26:10,032 --> 02:26:15,007
derangement syndrome, but there's a strong basis of Trump derangement back there

1520
02:26:15,007 --> 02:26:20,015
inability to stay quiet while other people are discussing and giving information

1521
02:26:20,015 --> 02:26:24,009
and sharing their opinions. They can't keep quiet. I appreciate what you're doing.

1522
02:26:24,979 --> 02:26:28,919
I didn't plan on speaking on public comment, but I heard those comments and I couldn't

1523
02:26:28,919 --> 02:26:33,058
be quiet. I was here for R4 and because of some other things that have come up, I'm

1524
02:26:33,058 --> 02:26:38,058
going to need to take off. The 100,000 quote for the R4 is ridiculous. Have that

1525
02:26:38,058 --> 02:26:41,905
substantiated. They're charging. For billing hours for

1526
02:26:43,914 --> 02:26:49,664
county employees that are already on the clock, that the number for the attorneys

1527
02:26:49,664 --> 02:26:54,265
was inflated because we used outside attorneys instead of using in-house, so the

1528
02:26:54,265 --> 02:27:00,719
election commission should stand. So thank you for your listening. I'm sure that

1529
02:27:00,719 --> 02:27:01,549
was our last speaker.

1530
02:27:04,027 --> 02:27:08,063
All right, moving on to R4. Well, with that, I'll make a motion to approve the consent

1531
02:27:08,063 --> 02:27:13,869
calendar. Second, we have a first by Supervisor Kelstrom. Second by Supervisor plumber.

1532
02:27:13,095 --> 02:27:20,058
Thank you, Supervisor Kelstrom. All those in favor? I passes 50. Moving on to R4.

1533
02:27:23,004 --> 02:27:26,359
Mr. Curtis, you would like to come on up.

1534
02:27:30,052 --> 02:27:36,609
This is your item, so I'll let you. Uh, yes, well, originally I was proposing that

1535
02:27:36,609 --> 02:27:41,076
we temporarily, you know, disbanded it, but I'm told we can't temporarily do anything,

1536
02:27:41,077 --> 02:27:48,229
you have to completely repeal or not and um. Oddly enough, everything you do here,

1537
02:27:48,026 --> 02:27:52,739
apparently everybody in California watches because I was at a meeting on Friday with

1538
02:27:52,739 --> 02:27:57,229
other ROVs that had election commission to go up and said, don't let them suspend

1539
02:27:57,229 --> 02:28:01,619
the commission, it will affect ours. So you guys have a lot more power than you might

1540
02:28:01,619 --> 02:28:05,729
know you have out there. Every everybody's watching you. Um, but I have talked with

1541
02:28:05,729 --> 02:28:10,045
other people. I talked with Mr. Plummer, and he made some good points that maybe

1542
02:28:10,045 --> 02:28:15,045
instead of getting rid of it, we can just change the meeting schedule to like once

1543
02:28:15,045 --> 02:28:21,069
a year or once every 6 months, and that way because their job is to report to you,

1544
02:28:21,809 --> 02:28:26,063
not to me, they're actually watching me, right? They're watching me and telling you

1545
02:28:26,063 --> 02:28:31,027
if I'm doing a good job or not. So it might be better to go with that route and then

1546
02:28:31,027 --> 02:28:34,083
you don't have to try and bring it back and you don't throw out a commission that

1547
02:28:34,083 --> 02:28:40,419
might be worthwhile, um. And it might have been a little arrogant on my part to think

1548
02:28:40,419 --> 02:28:43,909
that since I don't need it because I'm gonna talk to every citizen who wants to talk

1549
02:28:43,909 --> 02:28:49,039
to me that it wouldn't be needed in the future. In the future I can get hit by a

1550
02:28:49,039 --> 02:28:52,919
truck tomorrow. You never know. So in the future you may go back to where the ROV

1551
02:28:52,919 --> 02:28:58,419
office doesn't speak to the citizens and the opposite of what I'm doing now and so

1552
02:28:58,789 --> 02:29:03,095
maybe it's worth keeping, but you can save the money by simply pushing the schedule

1553
02:29:03,095 --> 02:29:08,919
out they can do their thing. They can meet with me one on one. I was looking to try

1554
02:29:08,919 --> 02:29:14,063
and meet with groups and the Brown Act would kind of keep that from happening. So,

1555
02:29:14,076 --> 02:29:19,084
um, you know, I thought getting rid would be easier a little quicker, but it might

1556
02:29:19,084 --> 02:29:26,032
be a problem down the road. So I have, uh, I've accepted your proposition, sir.

1557
02:29:28,052 --> 02:29:33,789
Any questions? Um, What was supervisor plumber? I mean, how many public comments

1558
02:29:33,789 --> 02:29:40,859
do we have? 7? 12 chair. Um, just maybe it'd be good to state what Supervisor Plumber's

1559
02:29:40,859 --> 02:29:44,469
proposition was before we take public comment just so people understand where this

1560
02:29:44,469 --> 02:29:49,429
is possibly going. Oh, he just said that, you know, maybe getting rid of it is not

1561
02:29:49,429 --> 02:29:55,049
a good idea because technically they wanna watch me as well. And so by getting rid

1562
02:29:55,049 --> 02:29:59,051
of the election commission, I'm kind of destroying the process that's supposed to

1563
02:29:59,051 --> 02:30:03,849
be watching me. And that's because I simply thought I would do it on my own, just

1564
02:30:03,849 --> 02:30:07,049
run in there and talk to everybody and get everything accomplished because I'm gonna

1565
02:30:07,049 --> 02:30:13,025
address everybody's concern. But Like he mentioned, you know, it's better to have

1566
02:30:13,025 --> 02:30:18,045
it in position to actually report that I'm doing that as opposed to just telling

1567
02:30:18,045 --> 02:30:23,032
you and I guess you are supposed to believe me, so it is better to have it in place.

1568
02:30:23,045 --> 02:30:29,005
Um, there's a cost involved, but if you push back to the reporting period to 6 months

1569
02:30:29,005 --> 02:30:36,789
or a year, once a year, they don't draw salaries, you know. Um, if I were you,

1570
02:30:37,039 --> 02:30:43,032
I would probably take it off the suspension because it doesn't have any sort of legislative

1571
02:30:43,032 --> 02:30:47,679
effect. It doesn't have a budget. All it does is collect data and give it to you.

1572
02:30:47,799 --> 02:30:52,049
So if you're suspending it, all you're doing is keeping it from talking to you. Which

1573
02:30:52,299 --> 02:30:57,229
doesn't really make any sense if that's its function. But that's my position. It's

1574
02:30:57,229 --> 02:31:01,859
your board. They just watch me, so you can do whatever you feel like with it. Supervisor

1575
02:31:01,859 --> 02:31:05,659
Plumber, if we were to keep this around, would you be appointing somebody? You have

1576
02:31:05,659 --> 02:31:11,021
yet to do that. Yes, and the reason that I haven't is because it has been suspended,

1577
02:31:11,028 --> 02:31:16,299
so I haven't prioritized um finding a candidate to appoint to it, but I do plan to

1578
02:31:16,299 --> 02:31:23,032
do that. Want to take public comment. Stephanie will take public comment. Mr. Kurt,

1579
02:31:23,359 --> 02:31:26,051
you want to take a seat? and chair, since last time I had looked at it, we do have

1580
02:31:26,051 --> 02:31:30,045
2 additional speakers. So altogether we have 14. We will start with Laurie Bridgeford

1581
02:31:30,045 --> 02:31:34,059
followed by Rich Gardo, then Dolores Lucero. If I called your name, please get in

1582
02:31:34,059 --> 02:31:34,039
you.

1583
02:31:52,007 --> 02:31:56,169
Yes, regarding our 4, and the election commission, it's, it's too bad it's been on

1584
02:31:56,169 --> 02:32:01,729
such a long suspension. We all know that we have some uh. Inappropriate people that

1585
02:32:01,729 --> 02:32:06,409
were put there not to focus and help, and so they've already lost some time. I, I

1586
02:32:06,409 --> 02:32:12,809
think once a year is not sufficient at all for the long standing uh ignorance and

1587
02:32:12,809 --> 02:32:18,979
neglect and abuse that some of us had to take at the last election, so um. I don't

1588
02:32:18,979 --> 02:32:23,489
see why if we did it once a month, that's 7 meetings and then maybe have it go into

1589
02:32:23,489 --> 02:32:28,739
a 6 month span or something quarterly, but right now there's just so much to catch

1590
02:32:28,739 --> 02:32:33,004
up with and um I, I really feel bad for the people that did a lot of the work and

1591
02:32:33,004 --> 02:32:39,034
they were on the ad hoc committees and so on and so forth so um. Lots has been exposed

1592
02:32:39,034 --> 02:32:45,071
and uh I'm glad Mr. Kurtz explained with more clarity as to them being able to report

1593
02:32:45,071 --> 02:32:49,071
to the board as I understand it, if you're going to appoint someone, they can be

1594
02:32:49,071 --> 02:32:54,014
in any district. I don't know that that changed, but is that correct? You can appoint

1595
02:32:54,014 --> 02:32:56,084
anybody, right? OK, right, thank you.

1596
02:32:58,309 --> 02:33:03,309
Rich Gallardo, followed by Dolores Lucero, followed by Patty Plum, then Bev. If I

1597
02:33:03,309 --> 02:33:04,045
called your name, please get in queue.

1598
02:33:07,669 --> 02:33:12,349
Stephanie, just out of curiosity, uh, council Larmer, when the, when the speaker

1599
02:33:12,349 --> 02:33:15,789
is done, and then a speaker decides to come up, when does their clock officially

1600
02:33:15,789 --> 02:33:16,599
have to start?

1601
02:33:19,099 --> 02:33:23,659
There's nothing in the rules. The chair essentially can uh all that. Give it 5 seconds

1602
02:33:23,659 --> 02:33:27,659
from the time the person vacates the, the, the mic to start the clock on the next

1603
02:33:27,659 --> 02:33:30,159
speaker. Thank you.

1604
02:33:33,025 --> 02:33:38,069
Thank you. Of course, I do agree with reinstating the commission. The 2 year election

1605
02:33:38,069 --> 02:33:44,026
cycle goes extremely quickly. I would recommend at least quarterly meetings year

1606
02:33:44,026 --> 02:33:51,041
round because that's only 8 meetings in a 2 year cycle, and I, and so off year on

1607
02:33:51,041 --> 02:33:58,119
your elections, I think that doesn't matter quarterly, minimally. Um And yes, it's

1608
02:33:58,119 --> 02:34:02,004
the voice in the will of the people. Thank you, Mr. Curtis, for realizing that it

1609
02:34:02,004 --> 02:34:06,056
is, it is the voice of the people in a republic. That's how we are supposed to governors

1610
02:34:06,056 --> 02:34:10,052
from the bottom up. Uh, if you want to get rid of some committees, how about the

1611
02:34:10,052 --> 02:34:16,979
Committee on Aging? Take your wheat germ. Take your vitamins. Stop taking, yeah,

1612
02:34:17,015 --> 02:34:21,091
I'm serious. Stop taking the flu shots and vaccines, that'll get rid of the Alzheimer's.

1613
02:34:22,089 --> 02:34:25,729
How, how about that? Let's get rid of that one. OK, let's save some money there.

1614
02:34:26,359 --> 02:34:32,709
Um, without a fair and transparent election, nothing else matters. And I sent to

1615
02:34:32,709 --> 02:34:37,078
this board recently because I heard Mr. Long, uh, Lie to the people, say there's

1616
02:34:37,078 --> 02:34:43,579
no fraud. You now have the you have the link, election fraud at heritage.org. There

1617
02:34:43,579 --> 02:34:48,063
is fraud convictions all over the country. There are dozens in the state of California.

1618
02:34:50,599 --> 02:34:54,005
Election fraud exists, so please don't say that anymore. It makes you look ignorant.

1619
02:34:56,054 --> 02:35:02,739
OK. And I appreciate uh appreciate a good relationship with our, our registrar who

1620
02:35:02,739 --> 02:35:08,079
I believe is going to allow for a much more fair and transparent election, and that's

1621
02:35:08,079 --> 02:35:09,849
really all we want. Thank you so much.

1622
02:35:11,869 --> 02:35:16,349
Dolores Lucero, followed by Patty Plum, followed by Bev, then Laura. If I called

1623
02:35:16,349 --> 02:35:17,589
your name, please get in queue.

1624
02:35:22,739 --> 02:35:23,979
What shall we start?

1625
02:35:28,489 --> 02:35:36,053
To have someone to over to oversee the new ROV it's important because we don't trust

1626
02:35:36,053 --> 02:35:42,041
him. I don't trust him. He already violated people's rights, he already discriminated

1627
02:35:42,041 --> 02:35:49,319
other citizens by not allowing them to attend the meeting. They had a private meeting,

1628
02:35:49,569 --> 02:35:57,031
so he violated those rights of those citizens. So, for someone to be appointed,

1629
02:35:57,053 --> 02:36:02,009
who's going to be when you appoint You're the person that you want. Are you you three

1630
02:36:02,009 --> 02:36:08,014
are going to be dictators to make sure that person that you don't like to be appointed

1631
02:36:08,014 --> 02:36:12,066
by those, those other people who are going to be say I want this person. Are you

1632
02:36:12,066 --> 02:36:19,739
gonna have the citizens to come up here to actually to slander them and say bad things

1633
02:36:19,739 --> 02:36:24,018
about them so you don't appoint them and you're gonna vote no on them? Because that's

1634
02:36:24,018 --> 02:36:28,839
what it's gonna come down to. You're gonna make. Sure that you vote against whoever

1635
02:36:28,839 --> 02:36:34,719
they want. It's not an easy process. It's actually you violate people's rights and

1636
02:36:34,719 --> 02:36:39,119
you constantly do that. You get frustrated, Chris. You act like you don't like your

1637
02:36:39,119 --> 02:36:45,000
damn job. Stop breathing like if you don't like hearing me talk because that's how

1638
02:36:45,000 --> 02:36:51,000
you act. This, it's important because we need, we need to make sure that he doesn't

1639
02:36:51,000 --> 02:36:56,056
break the law. He already broke the law. We, I don't, we, I don't understand why

1640
02:36:56,056 --> 02:37:02,599
you, you keep on picking people that keep on breaking laws. You don't are not here

1641
02:37:02,599 --> 02:37:08,079
for transparency. That first meeting he did was not transparency. That's discrimination.

1642
02:37:09,479 --> 02:37:15,027
He didn't allow people to attend that meeting. Don't you guys care or should I say

1643
02:37:15,027 --> 02:37:18,051
you don't care because you don't. It's all about you're a.

1644
02:37:20,589 --> 02:37:24,859
Big Cotty Plum followed by Bev, followed by Laura, followed by Antonia.

1645
02:37:27,439 --> 02:37:32,939
Welcome. Thank you. I can't tell you how excited I am about what we experienced on

1646
02:37:32,939 --> 02:37:37,026
Saturday and so many people here in the room from both sides, we gathered together

1647
02:37:37,026 --> 02:37:42,018
and it was unifying and it was an opportunity for us to be educated and to see a

1648
02:37:42,018 --> 02:37:46,729
path forward rather than complaining about the past and our current situation. And

1649
02:37:46,729 --> 02:37:50,051
if you haven't figured out by now, you're a little bit late to dinner, but the kitchen

1650
02:37:50,051 --> 02:37:54,339
is still open, get your plate. There's plenty of information to educate you about

1651
02:37:54,339 --> 02:38:00,359
our condition with the election system. But going forward, I see us be able to um

1652
02:38:00,359 --> 02:38:04,439
combine our efforts to meet with our ROV to get the information we need to create

1653
02:38:04,439 --> 02:38:09,439
a path that makes sense not only for our county but also a template for others and

1654
02:38:09,439 --> 02:38:14,092
um just people like Jeff and David and Susan that were there at the town hall meeting

1655
02:38:14,092 --> 02:38:19,008
with uh Clint Curtis and Doctor Frank, it was exceptional to see us all be together

1656
02:38:19,008 --> 02:38:23,081
and there was no yelling. Everyone was getting. Information that they need and it's

1657
02:38:23,081 --> 02:38:27,066
understandable why people are upset because we get upset to think that we've been

1658
02:38:27,066 --> 02:38:32,093
lied to, we have been betrayed. It's very insulting what's happened to us, but the

1659
02:38:32,093 --> 02:38:36,849
idea of going forward with the election commission, um, we can have that in place

1660
02:38:36,849 --> 02:38:41,089
and also an election committee that could be more, um, with the ROV and the ability

1661
02:38:41,089 --> 02:38:46,005
without the restrictions to meet together and to uh provide uh solutions for all

1662
02:38:46,005 --> 02:38:47,439
of us. OK, thank you.

1663
02:38:49,469 --> 02:38:54,008
followed by Laura, followed by Antonia, followed by Michelle, then Jim Burnett. Welcome,

1664
02:38:54,081 --> 02:39:00,093
Beth. Thank you. Um, I am here today to ask you not to dissolve the election commission

1665
02:39:01,018 --> 02:39:06,005
since this is all started because of a lie, it was said that two of the commissioners

1666
02:39:06,005 --> 02:39:13,699
were part of a lawsuit. Wrong. Was this being said deceitfully um to the

1667
02:39:13,699 --> 02:39:19,339
citizens of Chasta County, they filed declarations as to what they observed, as did

1668
02:39:19,339 --> 02:39:27,053
many others. What, what if a department. Had stole someone's money and employees

1669
02:39:27,053 --> 02:39:33,439
so the entire crime. Do you feel that the employee should remain silent and there

1670
02:39:33,439 --> 02:39:41,239
are no consequences for that supervisor um if our votes are stolen, is that not

1671
02:39:41,239 --> 02:39:46,076
worse than anything physical that can be stolen? Our votes being stolen cannot be

1672
02:39:46,076 --> 02:39:53,349
replaced and will eventually put us in danger of our freedom. It is not the victim

1673
02:39:53,349 --> 02:39:58,005
that should be punished. It should be the one that did the crime. Um, it's been said

1674
02:39:58,005 --> 02:40:03,459
that the commission has not done anything. That is wrong. Reports have been submitted.

1675
02:40:03,075 --> 02:40:09,067
If you have not received them, then maybe you should need to find out why. Um, you

1676
02:40:09,067 --> 02:40:15,005
need to keep the election commission. Thank you very much. Laura, followed by Antonia,

1677
02:40:15,063 --> 02:40:17,009
followed by Michelle, followed by Jim Burnett.

1678
02:40:21,319 --> 02:40:27,017
OK, good good morning again. Um, I just wanted to say that one thing that Clint Curtis

1679
02:40:27,017 --> 02:40:32,065
said that really stuck out was that the purpose of the board was to or the purpose

1680
02:40:32,065 --> 02:40:37,017
of the election commission was to report back to the board what the citizens have

1681
02:40:37,017 --> 02:40:44,015
said and um for that reason I completely agree that we need to keep. This election

1682
02:40:44,015 --> 02:40:49,042
commission going. There's been a number of reports made. The election commission

1683
02:40:49,042 --> 02:40:54,859
brought forth out of town experts to speak and explain about the corrupted audit

1684
02:40:54,859 --> 02:41:00,009
logs and the suspected breach in the voting system that we're using, as well as unauthorized

1685
02:41:00,009 --> 02:41:07,189
time changes that occurred in 62nd increments that were um indicative of a possible

1686
02:41:07,189 --> 02:41:12,005
breach in the system which needs to be investigated and um.

1687
02:41:14,119 --> 02:41:19,065
So these reports, most of them have not even gone before the board with the exception

1688
02:41:19,065 --> 02:41:24,489
of one of them, and I would highly recommend that you take those reports that have

1689
02:41:24,489 --> 02:41:29,013
already been submitted and actually bring them forth for a hearings for the public

1690
02:41:29,013 --> 02:41:34,599
to weigh in and to hear what. You know, the commission produced. It's just respectful

1691
02:41:34,599 --> 02:41:39,000
of the commissioners who volunteer their time and spent so many hours producing those

1692
02:41:39,000 --> 02:41:44,000
reports, um, to actually utilize them instead of just letting them collect dust,

1693
02:41:44,079 --> 02:41:50,028
um. So that for one, but also we need to keep this going. um, what has happened is

1694
02:41:50,028 --> 02:41:56,739
that Joanna Francesca has broken over a half a dozen election laws and nobody is

1695
02:41:56,739 --> 02:42:01,008
held to account. Um, that's a problem right now. um, we're faced with a situation

1696
02:42:01,008 --> 02:42:07,016
that nobody wants to hear even of these violations when laws are broken. There should

1697
02:42:07,016 --> 02:42:11,979
be accountability. We are a country of law and order. I firmly believe that we need

1698
02:42:11,979 --> 02:42:17,479
to abide by the California election code, and I think that the citizens need to have

1699
02:42:17,479 --> 02:42:21,079
a forum where they can express those grief. Thank you. Thank you.

1700
02:42:28,489 --> 02:42:31,081
Antonio followed by Michelle, then Jim Burnett followed by Casey.

1701
02:42:34,005 --> 02:42:35,065
Good morning board.

1702
02:42:37,239 --> 02:42:42,439
Um, the election commission serves as the voice of people and plays a vital role

1703
02:42:42,439 --> 02:42:47,569
in ensuring transparency and fairness in our election process. With the appointment

1704
02:42:47,569 --> 02:42:55,015
of a new register of voters, ROV Glenn Curtis, the public must hear. Must hear

1705
02:42:55,739 --> 02:43:02,609
finalized meaningful employment. Here his perspective on the commission before any

1706
02:43:02,609 --> 02:43:09,056
decisions are finalized, which we already heard. What he has said, so we got that.

1707
02:43:09,088 --> 02:43:17,013
Meaningful public engagement will be necessary. To implement much needed election

1708
02:43:17,013 --> 02:43:24,066
reform, and the election commission can serve as an In valuable reform for

1709
02:43:24,066 --> 02:43:31,619
those discussions, disbanding the commission before the public is fully assured of

1710
02:43:31,619 --> 02:43:37,939
a fair and transparent electoral process would be premature. I strongly urge the

1711
02:43:37,939 --> 02:43:44,002
board to reconsider this matter and allow the commission to continue its essential

1712
02:43:44,002 --> 02:43:51,081
work in the safeguarding electoral integrity. Thank you. Thank you. Michelle, followed

1713
02:43:51,081 --> 02:43:57,013
by Jim Burnett, followed by Casey, then Dan. I just wanted to say that this, I, I

1714
02:43:57,013 --> 02:44:04,025
agree with Patty, it's we wanna just move forward in a positive way and to um

1715
02:44:04,077 --> 02:44:11,039
investigate and look at how we can um do things better and really weigh this

1716
02:44:11,039 --> 02:44:17,077
electronic um balloting versus just the hand counting. And I wanted to, I didn't

1717
02:44:17,077 --> 02:44:22,055
get enough time, but not only, uh, was, uh, Clint Curtis saving us money but we have,

1718
02:44:22,065 --> 02:44:30,002
I think we already 450 people that are volunteering to, uh, account. So, um, I heard,

1719
02:44:30,003 --> 02:44:37,439
um. Joanna said that she had to hire several uh extra people 10 hour days for a month,

1720
02:44:37,839 --> 02:44:43,359
so, uh, and we're doing this for the future for our children. I mean, most of you

1721
02:44:43,359 --> 02:44:49,056
have children, grandchildren we want the votes to be as clean as possible and that's

1722
02:44:49,056 --> 02:44:54,839
what we're after we're, I am not here for a fight. I, I want something to be improved

1723
02:44:54,839 --> 02:45:00,869
for everyone. Thank you. Thank you. Jim Burnett, followed by Casey, followed by Dan,

1724
02:45:01,014 --> 02:45:03,009
followed by Ronin. If I called your name, please get in queue.

1725
02:45:05,016 --> 02:45:12,028
Good morning board. I too wish that the election commission can continue because

1726
02:45:12,719 --> 02:45:19,025
the term we the people is only a phrase until you apply it to people supervising

1727
02:45:19,025 --> 02:45:24,449
their own government. The people are the power. It should be bottom up, and nothing

1728
02:45:24,449 --> 02:45:32,000
is exemplifies that as much as a committee to. Oversee the office of the ROB.

1729
02:45:32,699 --> 02:45:38,209
Clint Curtis makes a great point in that he may, he may be great, he may be just

1730
02:45:38,209 --> 02:45:43,065
what we need, but if something happens and we get somebody else in there, we're back

1731
02:45:43,065 --> 02:45:51,004
square one. So unless we have the mechanism in place that will govern. The next ROB

1732
02:45:51,004 --> 02:45:57,949
is for naught. People forget that ballots are as valuable, if not more valuable than

1733
02:45:57,949 --> 02:46:03,029
money, because everything in our government starts with the vote of the people. The

1734
02:46:03,029 --> 02:46:08,093
will of the people needs to prevail, and if the elections are in any way compromised.

1735
02:46:09,055 --> 02:46:14,055
Then all of that breaks, but there are people that are getting enormously rich and

1736
02:46:14,055 --> 02:46:19,739
powerful ostensibly based on what the results of an election are, but we don't trust

1737
02:46:19,739 --> 02:46:25,469
the results of the elections unless we have full transparency and accountability.

1738
02:46:26,028 --> 02:46:30,052
At every single level, and I believe that Mr. Curtis is going to provide that for

1739
02:46:30,052 --> 02:46:36,056
us, but we still need to be watching like a hawk at every step of the way. Otherwise

1740
02:46:36,056 --> 02:46:41,016
we're just delegating where we shouldn't be delegating. That's the reason we've got

1741
02:46:41,016 --> 02:46:47,949
in this mess in the first place. We delegate our Our ability to hold elections to

1742
02:46:47,949 --> 02:46:53,069
somebody that we don't know. Some people say they do know, but we really don't know

1743
02:46:53,069 --> 02:46:59,051
unless there's hard, fast evidence in what we have now up until this point is a statement

1744
02:46:59,051 --> 02:47:06,109
of vote, which means nothing to me. It's just a report that somebody thank you.

1745
02:47:07,026 --> 02:47:11,005
Casey followed by Dan, followed by Ronine, then Margaret Hanson.

1746
02:47:15,066 --> 02:47:22,969
Good morning again. Our election process is in dire need of reform. To rebuild trust

1747
02:47:22,969 --> 02:47:29,349
and restore integrity, we must act together with urgency and determination. This

1748
02:47:29,349 --> 02:47:35,039
is no small task. It demands hard work, dedication, and the support of every one

1749
02:47:35,039 --> 02:47:40,051
of us who cares about fair and honest elections. We are fortunate enough to have

1750
02:47:40,051 --> 02:47:45,869
devoted individuals like the 3 election commissioner volunteers who give their time

1751
02:47:45,869 --> 02:47:51,189
so selflessly to serve this county. Their noble efforts show us what's possible when

1752
02:47:51,189 --> 02:47:56,043
we commit to doing what's right. Dissolving the election commission would be a grave

1753
02:47:56,043 --> 02:48:03,599
mistake. The recent election certified under duress by this board was marred by significant

1754
02:48:03,599 --> 02:48:09,989
violations and troubling irregularities. This cannot stand. We deserve better. Our

1755
02:48:09,989 --> 02:48:17,017
elections must be transparent, secure, and beyond reproach. So I urge you today to

1756
02:48:17,017 --> 02:48:23,609
set aside political divides and focus on what should. Unite us, the shared commitment

1757
02:48:23,609 --> 02:48:29,739
to a fair and trustworthy election system. Reconsider any approach that weakens our

1758
02:48:29,739 --> 02:48:36,025
process. Stand with us to ensure Shasta County's elections reflect the true will

1759
02:48:36,025 --> 02:48:41,979
of the people. Together we can rebuild the system we all take pride in. Thank you

1760
02:48:41,979 --> 02:48:48,029
for listening and let's get to work. Thank you. Dan followed by Ronin, followed by

1761
02:48:48,029 --> 02:48:51,013
Margaret Hanson, and lastly C Gardner.

1762
02:48:53,015 --> 02:48:56,031
Well I'm back. I didn't think I was going to be back, but I thought public comment

1763
02:48:56,031 --> 02:49:02,004
was before R1, 2 and 3, and I didn't want to wait. My customer can wait a little

1764
02:49:02,004 --> 02:49:06,091
bit. We need to reinstate the election commission. Everybody in the room wants a

1765
02:49:06,091 --> 02:49:11,077
fair, transparent election. There's no way to score argue against that. We've got

1766
02:49:11,077 --> 02:49:16,093
a consensus right now. We all agree. Even Dolores wants the election commission back

1767
02:49:16,093 --> 02:49:22,013
so you guys can keep eyes on it. The ROV is here. He wants it to be. We're going

1768
02:49:22,013 --> 02:49:26,839
to hear shortly from the two of the commissioners we already heard from a third one.

1769
02:49:27,013 --> 02:49:31,089
They want the commission there. The deceitful numbers about the cost of the commission,

1770
02:49:31,093 --> 02:49:38,006
a volunteer commission needs to be. Welched and we need to look at the opportunity

1771
02:49:38,006 --> 02:49:42,459
for the people to speak to the election commission and tell them what they want.

1772
02:49:42,078 --> 02:49:48,006
We want a fair and transparent election. Everybody in the room agrees with that.

1773
02:49:48,018 --> 02:49:49,739
So thank you. Thank you.

1774
02:49:52,489 --> 02:49:55,029
followed by Margaret Hanson, and lastly C. Gardner.

1775
02:49:57,075 --> 02:50:02,016
Hi there board. Um, as the last chair of the election commission, I agree with what,

1776
02:50:02,349 --> 02:50:08,869
uh, Mr. Curtis said. For the record, there is um a budget for the commission, just

1777
02:50:08,869 --> 02:50:15,005
for the record. Uh, I would recommend that there be a minimum of 3 to 4 meetings

1778
02:50:15,005 --> 02:50:22,849
a year, uh, so that we can uh provide pertinent information and

1779
02:50:22,849 --> 02:50:28,459
recommendations to the board in a timely manner, especially with elections, you know,

1780
02:50:28,619 --> 02:50:34,005
pretty frequently. Uh, the board went to all the hassle and effort to appoint Mr.

1781
02:50:34,006 --> 02:50:39,439
Curtis to the ROV position. It's not time to let up on election integrity issues,

1782
02:50:39,056 --> 02:50:45,088
so please do not discontinue the commission. I would also like to reiterate that

1783
02:50:45,088 --> 02:50:49,076
the commission should be reinstated immediately because the argument that two of

1784
02:50:49,076 --> 02:50:55,469
the existing commissioners are party to a lawsuit against the county is not true.

1785
02:50:55,006 --> 02:51:02,189
They have not been named in the lawsuit, and one of the supervisors and Mr. Rickert

1786
02:51:02,189 --> 02:51:06,889
can be subpoenaed in the case, which is no different. Then the declarations submitted

1787
02:51:06,889 --> 02:51:11,025
in the case that were written by two of the commissioners. So that argument is just

1788
02:51:11,025 --> 02:51:16,889
totally bogus. So anyway, that's what I have to say. Thank you. Margaret Hanson,

1789
02:51:17,001 --> 02:51:18,053
followed by C Gardner.

1790
02:51:22,729 --> 02:51:30,033
Good morning. I'm speaking on my behalf, not for any of the group. So my

1791
02:51:30,033 --> 02:51:37,078
recommendation would be to keep the um elections commission uh there's a lot of work

1792
02:51:37,078 --> 02:51:44,879
going on behind the scenes individually and with um another person I would highly

1793
02:51:45,659 --> 02:51:53,081
suggest that you appoint somebody and you as well uh when we had our conversation

1794
02:51:53,081 --> 02:51:58,037
the first time that you know you were sworn in and you wanted to talk to me. And

1795
02:51:58,037 --> 02:52:03,029
you asked me what was important about this or why not just the citizens coming up

1796
02:52:03,029 --> 02:52:10,056
here and I told you I said that we are investigating things we bring these forward

1797
02:52:10,889 --> 02:52:15,489
and the citizens aren't being listened to as much as we should be listened to because

1798
02:52:15,489 --> 02:52:19,081
of you guys, I also asked you to appoint somebody that's not an activist but somebody

1799
02:52:19,081 --> 02:52:24,909
that wants to work with the commission. So in all honesty it would be a good idea

1800
02:52:24,909 --> 02:52:31,149
to keep it. It's an honor to serve. It was really an honor to serve um it's a lot

1801
02:52:31,149 --> 02:52:36,429
of time consuming things, but I will say to you there's a lot of interesting stuff

1802
02:52:36,429 --> 02:52:37,051
coming up. Thank you.

1803
02:52:39,479 --> 02:52:46,239
And gardener is our last speaker. A lot of interesting stuff, but the fact of the

1804
02:52:46,239 --> 02:52:51,389
matter is we've had an election commission for the last 4 years. People come before

1805
02:52:51,006 --> 02:52:58,007
this board and spew at least 45 minutes, maybe an hour, every meeting about this

1806
02:52:58,007 --> 02:53:04,009
and that, this and that, reams of data, reams of information that today was thrown

1807
02:53:04,009 --> 02:53:11,011
out, at least halfway thrown out by the judge. Hobbs's cases are ridiculous, costing

1808
02:53:11,011 --> 02:53:18,979
our county $107,000. The election commission costing $120,000 that we know about,

1809
02:53:19,149 --> 02:53:25,075
but hey, you got money to burn on propaganda, and that's all. It frigging is right

1810
02:53:25,075 --> 02:53:31,076
out propaganda. Hey, Clint was on to an idea. The election commission stands to be

1811
02:53:31,076 --> 02:53:38,879
a legal liability. You're wasting money that could be possibly taken to a court.

1812
02:53:39,429 --> 02:53:44,969
When you have the uh chair of the election commission get up and say, we demand that

1813
02:53:44,969 --> 02:53:50,709
the county break laws. Well, guess what? That's illegal. That's flat out illegal.

1814
02:53:51,479 --> 02:53:58,179
So we've got one commissioner who is the leader or a co-leader of a secessionist

1815
02:53:58,179 --> 02:54:03,879
group trying to secede from the state of California because she believes that the

1816
02:54:03,879 --> 02:54:08,909
state is an invalid entity where we get our money from, where we get our laws from,

1817
02:54:09,004 --> 02:54:12,037
and by the way, we live in the state of California under the California Constitution.

1818
02:54:13,031 --> 02:54:19,001
But hey, maybe we should keep that election commission because then Because basically

1819
02:54:19,001 --> 02:54:22,719
you have no jurisdiction over elections. You should have been shutting this down,

1820
02:54:22,085 --> 02:54:27,729
but you love propaganda and you want the taxpayers to pay for it. So you listen to

1821
02:54:27,729 --> 02:54:32,012
all this crap what that should have been deferred over to the election commission.

1822
02:54:32,053 --> 02:54:40,009
What a joke. It's a big propaganda. That's all it is. And taxpayers need to go understand

1823
02:54:40,032 --> 02:54:46,199
that they are paying for this propaganda, this propaganda, see this.

1824
02:54:49,005 --> 02:54:53,028
All right, bring it back to board discussion. Uh, Mr. Curtis, would you like to come

1825
02:54:53,028 --> 02:54:59,889
up in case anybody has any other questions? I just wanted to clarify. Uh, just that,

1826
02:55:00,129 --> 02:55:05,025
uh, I think the work we did in, uh, January and then, you know, in the following

1827
02:55:05,025 --> 02:55:10,081
months around restricting the number of meetings, uh, was an adequate step in that

1828
02:55:10,081 --> 02:55:16,037
direction, uh, as far as now and so, uh, I don't recommend any additional changes

1829
02:55:16,037 --> 02:55:17,057
to a meeting frequency.

1830
02:55:22,899 --> 02:55:27,169
Yeah, I don't have a problem with the what we had worked out in in January either.

1831
02:55:27,033 --> 02:55:32,055
So, um, I'll make a motion to continue on and with the caveat that I would like Supervisor

1832
02:55:32,055 --> 02:55:38,179
plumber to appoint someone to that commission and, uh. Well, I don't think supervised

1833
02:55:38,179 --> 02:55:42,409
long is going to, but uh, so I'd be more than happy for him to do it also,

1834
02:55:44,959 --> 02:55:50,062
but um, so what's on the agenda today is is to approve and repeal the the ordinance.

1835
02:55:50,699 --> 02:55:53,053
So if you want to bring something else back at a later time, we can do that, but

1836
02:55:53,053 --> 02:55:58,564
the only thing that is on. is to uh adopt an ordinance repealing. OK, got you. And,

1837
02:55:58,574 --> 02:56:01,965
and under this agenda item the way it's listed, I'll get right to you supers along.

1838
02:56:02,245 --> 02:56:06,205
Um, we can, we can have this discussion still right as it relates to the ordinance

1839
02:56:06,205 --> 02:56:10,725
in this topic because I think that was one of the things when Mr. Curtis talked about

1840
02:56:10,725 --> 02:56:14,055
bringing this forward, um. You know, we can only talk to one of their supervisors,

1841
02:56:14,059 --> 02:56:18,379
so I think he wanted us all to, you can have the discussion about whether you want

1842
02:56:18,379 --> 02:56:21,028
whether you want to adopt this and if you don't want to adopt it, what the other

1843
02:56:21,028 --> 02:56:28,899
options are. OK, supervisor. Thank you, Chair Cry. Um, well, it's

1844
02:56:28,899 --> 02:56:29,199
interesting.

1845
02:56:31,219 --> 02:56:37,057
I was surprised when Mr. Curtis and Faircry came to me independently and recommended

1846
02:56:37,057 --> 02:56:43,037
that this commission be dissolved and I was like, well, I've been advocating for

1847
02:56:43,037 --> 02:56:50,085
that from before when I was on the campaign trail and also when I was newly

1848
02:56:50,085 --> 02:56:58,055
seated in office, this issue has come up many times, um. The The

1849
02:56:58,889 --> 02:57:05,379
Commission has has cost us a significant amount of money and we've

1850
02:57:06,449 --> 02:57:12,969
proven unproven conspiracy theories bringing forward illegal recommendations, all

1851
02:57:12,969 --> 02:57:17,033
those kinds of things, so it has never made sense to me. If there was something that

1852
02:57:17,033 --> 02:57:23,159
was founded and there was evidence, then I could, I could get behind it, of course,

1853
02:57:23,025 --> 02:57:29,489
because I want the free and transparent elections as much as anyone does. Um, so

1854
02:57:30,139 --> 02:57:36,006
what has changed? I, I've thought a lot about this and we've elected Mr. Curtis,

1855
02:57:36,219 --> 02:57:44,002
um, to the ROV position or appointed him, and, uh, by his own words he uh believes

1856
02:57:44,002 --> 02:57:51,009
there is fraud and conspiracy theories and um wants to uh

1857
02:57:51,939 --> 02:57:58,169
kind of uh fix uh something that was working and in my opinion. And so where do we

1858
02:57:58,169 --> 02:58:04,037
go from here? So I consulted with a number of subject matter experts that are versed

1859
02:58:04,037 --> 02:58:11,879
in this field, and the commission members have no authority. It's an

1860
02:58:11,879 --> 02:58:17,001
advisory committee only. They cannot make any binding decisions. They cannot make

1861
02:58:17,001 --> 02:58:24,005
any decisions at all. All they can do is make recommendations. And they as citizens

1862
02:58:24,005 --> 02:58:31,085
do not have any investigative background or training to detect election irregularities.

1863
02:58:31,939 --> 02:58:39,054
They can just say what their opinions are and they furthermore do not have any increased

1864
02:58:39,054 --> 02:58:46,699
access into the internal areas of the ROVs office any more than any other

1865
02:58:46,699 --> 02:58:54,439
citizen would. So I looked at the commission and thought to myself, this is

1866
02:58:54,439 --> 02:59:02,078
not the, the platform to be an effective watchdog for good things or improper

1867
02:59:02,078 --> 02:59:09,219
things in the election's office because of everything I just stated. Um, so with

1868
02:59:09,219 --> 02:59:14,699
that in mind, I was, I was shocked that this made it as an agenda item. I did not

1869
02:59:14,699 --> 02:59:20,489
bring this forward, but I am in support of disbanding the commission at this time,

1870
02:59:20,979 --> 02:59:24,939
and that would, that's my statement. motion.

1871
02:59:27,709 --> 02:59:33,003
Well, we, we've got this regularly for it's, it's being brought to a vote. Are you,

1872
02:59:33,379 --> 02:59:38,179
are you putting that in the motion to Well, I think we're voting on it, right? there's

1873
02:59:38,179 --> 02:59:45,739
not a motion. Well, OK, I'll make the motion that we dissolve the elections commission

1874
02:59:45,739 --> 02:59:46,689
at this time.

1875
02:59:49,058 --> 02:59:55,009
OK, in a second. Um, uh, council Lamor, do you also want to weigh in? I'll I'll weigh

1876
02:59:55,009 --> 02:59:59,035
in. We'll move on. Supervisor Armor, do you want to weigh in? You're good. Uh, councilor

1877
02:59:59,035 --> 03:00:04,009
Larmer, um, Supervisor Long just mentioned something about the, the commission. How

1878
03:00:04,009 --> 03:00:08,899
many, we have like roughly I think 87 commissions. How many of the 83 to 87 in the

1879
03:00:08,899 --> 03:00:11,939
county, how many of those supersede the board's vote?

1880
03:00:14,029 --> 03:00:18,032
To be honest with you, I don't, I don't think any of them supersede. OK, so really,

1881
03:00:18,449 --> 03:00:21,399
I mean, basically by your statement we should get rid of the planning commission.

1882
03:00:21,649 --> 03:00:25,009
We should get rid of this, you know, everything, every commission should be gone

1883
03:00:25,009 --> 03:00:27,729
based on what your statement was. So do you think we should get rid of the planning

1884
03:00:27,729 --> 03:00:33,033
commission's budget? No, I do not, of course, because this commission has made illegal

1885
03:00:33,033 --> 03:00:38,929
recommendations, has cost us a fortune, and we have not had any productive measure.

1886
03:00:39,005 --> 03:00:44,004
From this and we've got someone that believes these theories that has been appointed

1887
03:00:44,004 --> 03:00:48,409
by this board and is currently sitting as our register of voters. He can cover it.

1888
03:00:48,679 --> 03:00:53,061
When in fact, when I had the conversation with Mr. Curtis after our board meeting

1889
03:00:53,061 --> 03:01:00,005
uh some time ago when he was talking about this should be disbanded, he told me it's

1890
03:01:00,005 --> 03:01:04,389
redundant. So you know this is and this is the conversation. I want to make sure

1891
03:01:04,389 --> 03:01:08,389
everybody understands what supervisor or I'm sorry, what our ROV Clint Curtis was

1892
03:01:08,389 --> 03:01:12,007
referring to when this was originally brought up was talking about holding a mock

1893
03:01:12,007 --> 03:01:16,082
election I think within 90 days, correct? Right. Somewhere in there 90 to 120 days

1894
03:01:16,082 --> 03:01:21,053
and I'm in full support of that when we start looking at costs of facilities, buildings,

1895
03:01:21,949 --> 03:01:25,389
where can we trim anywhere we can within what we're already doing in elections. So

1896
03:01:25,389 --> 03:01:28,659
that was one of the things that did come up. It is currently suspended and I do.

1897
03:01:29,159 --> 03:01:34,379
Uh, support Supervisor Long or supervisor plumber or Supervisor Long putting somebody

1898
03:01:34,379 --> 03:01:39,081
on that. What we don't have is we haven't had the election commission rowing in conjunction

1899
03:01:39,081 --> 03:01:44,026
with any of our past two ROVs. What I've already seen with this group and yourself,

1900
03:01:44,003 --> 03:01:49,979
it sounds like I wasn't in town, but it sounds like you had a town hall this Saturday,

1901
03:01:50,006 --> 03:01:53,419
people were working together because that's really what it's about is we'd like to

1902
03:01:53,419 --> 03:01:58,649
see the election commission. Uh, working in conjunction with the ROV and having those,

1903
03:01:59,001 --> 03:02:03,179
uh, meetings be streamlined. I do agree with Supervisor Kelstrom about and Supervisor

1904
03:02:03,179 --> 03:02:06,699
Plumber, I think actually said it originally that we did that work in January of

1905
03:02:06,699 --> 03:02:10,219
what that schedule would look like. Um, I think you've been here a very short time,

1906
03:02:10,026 --> 03:02:15,061
so I think we just play that out and see how that goes. So, and obviously our 4 failed,

1907
03:02:15,086 --> 03:02:22,669
didn't have a second. So, I have a question for you. How did this? Uh, motion or

1908
03:02:22,669 --> 03:02:27,949
how did this become agenized to dissolve the elections commission? Who put this on

1909
03:02:27,949 --> 03:02:33,054
the Mr. Mr. Curtis, uh, originally asked to put it on and like any elected official

1910
03:02:33,054 --> 03:02:38,149
of Noda Short, Laurie Scott, Leslie Morgan, Stephanie Bridget, she has one on here

1911
03:02:38,149 --> 03:02:44,026
today. So, so this, this was brought by Mr. Curtis to you, the chair. Who agreed

1912
03:02:44,026 --> 03:02:48,026
to put it on the agenda to dissolve the commission. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Any time

1913
03:02:48,026 --> 03:02:51,002
an elected official wants to bring anything forward, I'm going to let him whether

1914
03:02:51,002 --> 03:02:56,058
I support it or not, but I'm not going to for sure and the conversation you had with

1915
03:02:56,058 --> 03:03:03,389
me that this was going to be brought forward and basically you wanted to.

1916
03:03:04,028 --> 03:03:11,008
Uh, make sure that it was known to be your motion, your position, so that I would

1917
03:03:11,008 --> 03:03:17,033
not get sullied in the vote. Well no, it was strictly with with with the ROB just

1918
03:03:17,033 --> 03:03:24,008
let you know I mean like for me I, I would 100% like I hate, I mean, uh, the bureaucracy

1919
03:03:24,008 --> 03:03:29,008
of having, um, now that I've done this as long as I have, um, it's, it's really,

1920
03:03:29,199 --> 03:03:32,959
it's really tough, but one thing I'll tell you is if we had a commission. That and

1921
03:03:32,959 --> 03:03:35,879
we had a really big group of people that were against the sheriff, or we had a really

1922
03:03:35,879 --> 03:03:39,003
big group of people that were against the assessor, the recorder, the treasurer,

1923
03:03:39,399 --> 03:03:43,006
or the district attorney. If a citizen group felt strong enough to bring something

1924
03:03:43,006 --> 03:03:47,229
forward and the election commission was created by uh at the time Supervisor Jones

1925
03:03:47,669 --> 03:03:52,085
because there was a large number and a growing number of people very um. Unhappy

1926
03:03:52,085 --> 03:03:58,034
and, and quite honestly, uh very uh well there was very a lot of distrust, so I think

1927
03:03:58,034 --> 03:04:01,419
it's good to have citizen oversight. So if there's a group out there that thinks

1928
03:04:01,419 --> 03:04:06,002
the sheriff isn't getting it done, by all means start a group and say, hey, let's

1929
03:04:06,002 --> 03:04:09,037
have a citizen oversight committee on the sheriff. Other counties have those types

1930
03:04:09,037 --> 03:04:13,419
of things. Here in Shasta County, we really only have one group that oversees an

1931
03:04:13,419 --> 03:04:17,028
elected. Individual, I don't't say overseas, but has a committee that would report

1932
03:04:17,028 --> 03:04:20,739
to the board, um, as it relates to another elected official, and that's the elections

1933
03:04:20,739 --> 03:04:24,033
commission. And if, uh, Clint Curtis, our new ROV, said he wanted to get rid of it,

1934
03:04:24,054 --> 03:04:28,449
I'm always gonna let any or any elected official bring something forward and not,

1935
03:04:28,739 --> 03:04:33,379
not stop that, that movement. So, so originally I was, I would, if he said he wanted

1936
03:04:33,379 --> 03:04:38,949
to get rid of it at this point, um, I would probably support it, but Right now, well,

1937
03:04:39,027 --> 03:04:43,159
and that's where I'm going because we were at the employee appreciation luncheon

1938
03:04:43,051 --> 03:04:48,051
and you and I had a private conversation with Mr. Rickert also and you brought it

1939
03:04:48,051 --> 03:04:53,058
to my attention that this was going to come forward and was going to be dissolved

1940
03:04:53,083 --> 03:04:58,037
and so no, I just said that it was coming forward and my thought originally was if

1941
03:04:58,037 --> 03:05:01,389
Clint Curtis wanted to dissolve it, I thought there would be probably a lot less

1942
03:05:01,389 --> 03:05:04,087
pushback, but obviously there's been some pushback, and I don't blame him. He says,

1943
03:05:04,909 --> 03:05:09,059
hey, I think there's a lot of good. Um, you know, there's a, there's a lot of good

1944
03:05:09,059 --> 03:05:14,939
conversations because again, when something comes forward to this body, we have no

1945
03:05:14,939 --> 03:05:19,389
ability to do anything as it relates to the ROV. That's why for me, the planning

1946
03:05:19,389 --> 03:05:22,909
commission, we have a lot of say so. That's why I would never get rid of the, I mean

1947
03:05:22,909 --> 03:05:26,989
my answer to what you said is completely opposite. The planning commission gives

1948
03:05:26,989 --> 03:05:31,429
us input and we can actually act, but the elections commission can give us input

1949
03:05:31,429 --> 03:05:35,465
and there's very little we can do, almost nothing if the. ROV isn't on board. So

1950
03:05:35,465 --> 03:05:38,594
that's why I think this committee, although I support their effort and I support

1951
03:05:38,594 --> 03:05:43,344
their work, it's, it's, it's tough because we don't have the ability to actually

1952
03:05:43,344 --> 03:05:47,955
carry anything out that the ROB doesn't support. Well, and in regards to the planning

1953
03:05:47,955 --> 03:05:52,945
commission, they make a lot of decisions. Um, it's just when it comes to rezoning

1954
03:05:52,945 --> 03:05:56,864
and some of those things that it comes up to the board for their recommendation with

1955
03:05:56,864 --> 03:06:01,344
our decision. So there, there are a lot of recommendations and there are a lot of

1956
03:06:01,344 --> 03:06:08,059
decisions so. Uh, that, that comparison is not the same and so I guess, I guess what

1957
03:06:08,059 --> 03:06:15,149
my point is, is how, why are we here even discussing this. It sounded like this was

1958
03:06:15,149 --> 03:06:21,003
something that you wanted to to do, and Mr. Curtis told me independently he wanted

1959
03:06:21,003 --> 03:06:26,899
to dissolve this. So I'm just confused as a former detective, I stated quite clearly

1960
03:06:26,899 --> 03:06:29,989
that an elected official wanted to bring it forward, and I'm going to bring it forward,

1961
03:06:30,007 --> 03:06:33,083
so I did. No, I said you're a former detective, so I'm trying to help you connect

1962
03:06:33,083 --> 03:06:38,699
these dots that he told me he wanted to bring it forward, so I brought it forward.

1963
03:06:39,439 --> 03:06:43,084
Right, and in your defense, I did want to dissolve it because I thought it was just

1964
03:06:43,084 --> 03:06:49,003
an impediment to me actually speaking to people like because I'm gonna talk to everybody,

1965
03:06:49,052 --> 03:06:53,679
but that was arrogance on my part because I didn't consider, well, what if I'm not

1966
03:06:53,679 --> 03:06:59,004
here? Then they have nobody that will actually work with them and nobody to watch

1967
03:06:59,004 --> 03:07:04,011
them. So and then Mr. Plumber brought up, well, maybe they wanna watch you too. You

1968
03:07:04,011 --> 03:07:08,035
know, which is good. That's a good thing. I didn't consider that, you know, most

1969
03:07:08,035 --> 03:07:11,059
times you figure, oh, I'm perfect. No one want to watch me, but he brought it up

1970
03:07:11,059 --> 03:07:14,949
and he's absolutely correct. So we're gonna, maybe they won't watch me too. So that's

1971
03:07:14,949 --> 03:07:18,389
why I changed my position. We beat this up. We're gonna move on to our 5 at this

1972
03:07:18,389 --> 03:07:22,003
point. We've taken a vote, Mr. Doctor Moo, if you'd like to come on up, I would like.

1973
03:07:22,225 --> 03:07:26,145
Right to your presentation before lunch. We're moving on. Thank you, sir. 5. We haven't

1974
03:07:26,145 --> 03:07:31,145
taken the vote. There was no second. OK. A motion gets made and then it has to have

1975
03:07:31,145 --> 03:07:35,155
a second type of vote. OK. Doctor Moo, come on up to R5 receive a presentation from

1976
03:07:35,155 --> 03:07:38,635
the Shasta County Health Officer regarding alcohol and other drug services funding

1977
03:07:38,635 --> 03:07:44,969
legislation service numbers. Welcome and Bailey Cocker, and just to be really quick,

1978
03:07:45,139 --> 03:07:50,006
we are going to get through this item quickly and then we're gonna take uh uh not

1979
03:07:50,006 --> 03:07:54,006
open comment, we're going to take public comment for our closed session items and

1980
03:07:54,006 --> 03:07:58,082
we will adjourn for lunch. Uh procedural question for for counsel. Does the board

1981
03:07:58,082 --> 03:08:03,026
need to take a vote to take no action on R4? It would be it would be cleanest if

1982
03:08:03,026 --> 03:08:10,169
they take no action. Yeah, we can't we don't. Yeah, I mean, if I, I was ready to

1983
03:08:10,169 --> 03:08:14,085
take a vote if Council Larmer. OK, that's fine. I'll make a motion to take no action

1984
03:08:14,085 --> 03:08:20,037
on our four. All right. All those in favor? I oppose. 41.

1985
03:08:23,004 --> 03:08:28,239
Good afternoon, uh, Chair Cry and the members of the board. Uh, previous board had

1986
03:08:28,239 --> 03:08:34,036
asked me to have a presentation on nitrous oxide and other substance usage in Shasta

1987
03:08:34,036 --> 03:08:41,028
County. Um, traditionally this type of information is managed by alcohol and drug

1988
03:08:41,028 --> 03:08:46,919
department, not necessarily public health. Uh, and also one of the responsibility

1989
03:08:46,919 --> 03:08:53,989
for alcohol and drugs is to have an annual report to the board regarding, uh, substance

1990
03:08:53,989 --> 03:09:00,709
abuse in Shasta County. So I'd like to introduce again uh Bailey Cocker, who is the

1991
03:09:00,709 --> 03:09:06,199
administrator for alcohol and drug and also uh deputy branch director for behavior

1992
03:09:06,199 --> 03:09:13,429
health, and she knows much more about the subject and uh I'm gonna have her uh present

1993
03:09:13,429 --> 03:09:19,081
yeah. Uh, this issue. I am going to just talk about just one slide. Uh, this is about

1994
03:09:19,081 --> 03:09:26,025
nitrous oxide. Uh, nitrous oxide is a gas that's mostly used for culinary and medical,

1995
03:09:26,033 --> 03:09:33,036
mostly dental for their, uh, dental procedures. Uh, however, uh, it could be misused,

1996
03:09:33,649 --> 03:09:39,659
and it has been misused for a long time, however, recently, Uh, through heavy social

1997
03:09:39,659 --> 03:09:45,058
media promotion, lots of young, mostly young people are using it and unfortunately,

1998
03:09:45,086 --> 03:09:52,879
uh, chronic usage or heavy usage could cause severe neurological disorder,

1999
03:09:53,026 --> 03:09:59,909
hematological as well as uh heart and lung conditions. So this is a uh uh rising

2000
03:09:59,909 --> 03:10:05,379
problem not just in our county but throughout California and other counties are discussing

2001
03:10:05,379 --> 03:10:12,011
this as well. Uh, it's mostly sold in smoke shops where they're not dental office

2002
03:10:12,011 --> 03:10:18,008
or uh honorary kitchen supply office, so. I'm gonna have the net.

2003
03:10:21,004 --> 03:10:25,086
Good afternoon, chair, members of the board. So kicking off the rest of the presentation,

2004
03:10:25,919 --> 03:10:30,919
I'm gonna go into Shasta County's model, which is a drug medical organized delivery

2005
03:10:30,919 --> 03:10:36,006
system. Um, Partnership is our administrative resource in that model. Um, so I'll

2006
03:10:36,006 --> 03:10:42,419
talk a little bit about beneficiaries serve. Some of the primary diagnoses and substance

2007
03:10:42,419 --> 03:10:49,082
use used. So in 2020, Shasta County opted into the regional model with seven other

2008
03:10:49,082 --> 03:10:55,219
counties. This is a way to address network adequacy in smaller rural counties to

2009
03:10:55,219 --> 03:10:59,145
ensure that beneficiaries have access to appropriate. Levels of care based on their

2010
03:10:59,145 --> 03:11:04,844
screening scores. So in this model we partner with Humboldt, Lassen, Mendocino, Modoc,

2011
03:11:05,104 --> 03:11:10,564
Shasta, Siski, and Solano Counties. Um, Prior to this model, there were a lot of

2012
03:11:10,564 --> 03:11:16,925
resources that weren't available through the state plan. Um, for example, um, residential

2013
03:11:16,925 --> 03:11:23,685
services through medical beneficiaries were, um, was solely for perinatal clients.

2014
03:11:27,009 --> 03:11:32,009
So looking at this slide, this gives a little bit of a snapshot point in time for

2015
03:11:32,009 --> 03:11:37,077
fiscal year to date when this was pulled the services that are being provided. And

2016
03:11:37,077 --> 03:11:42,053
so on the left side there you will see all of the different members and the services

2017
03:11:42,053 --> 03:11:48,655
that they've received. The unduplicated count at that point in time was 1,308. And

2018
03:11:48,655 --> 03:11:53,975
then on the right side is the total number of visits. Um, so as you can see, so NTP

2019
03:11:53,975 --> 03:12:01,054
and OTP is narcotic treatment provider and opioid treatment provider, and so that

2020
03:12:01,054 --> 03:12:04,935
would be your mat services, things like that, and so those are going to be something

2021
03:12:04,935 --> 03:12:09,854
that clients are accessing more frequently as opposed to recovery or discharge services.

2022
03:12:10,229 --> 03:12:17,005
Um, prior to our regional model, um, we did not offer recovery, discharge, crisis

2023
03:12:17,005 --> 03:12:24,139
intervention, um, or anything of that nature, so opting in opting in enabled us to

2024
03:12:24,139 --> 03:12:25,036
expand services.

2025
03:12:29,062 --> 03:12:34,061
On our next slide here, you can see um the primary and secondary diagnosis. So this

2026
03:12:34,061 --> 03:12:41,209
is based off of partnership claims data. So anyone coming into the system of care,

2027
03:12:41,029 --> 03:12:46,209
whether it's for substance use as their primary or they're coming in for something

2028
03:12:46,209 --> 03:12:52,083
medical related with a secondary diagnosis of substance use disorder. Um, these numbers

2029
03:12:52,083 --> 03:12:56,081
aren't aligned or they don't match the other page because this is a shorter period

2030
03:12:56,081 --> 03:13:03,469
of time, but the other page or the other set of data was July through March, and

2031
03:13:03,469 --> 03:13:10,059
then this is only January through March data. And again, we can look at um opioid

2032
03:13:10,059 --> 03:13:16,006
being the highest diagnosis, and so that relates back to the other page as well with

2033
03:13:16,006 --> 03:13:20,699
why we are seeing such a high number of the NTP and OTP services.

2034
03:13:23,003 --> 03:13:29,629
This is from our internal tracking, and so this the data set ends as of last fiscal

2035
03:13:29,629 --> 03:13:34,083
year just because claims data can have a 12 month lag, that's the time frame that

2036
03:13:34,083 --> 03:13:42,006
they have to submit claims and then. Some of the reasonings that we

2037
03:13:42,006 --> 03:13:46,005
could kind of correlate the increases for is at the time that this model was going

2038
03:13:46,005 --> 03:13:52,659
live, it was also around the time that fentanyl was coming on board. I think also

2039
03:13:52,659 --> 03:13:57,909
with any program as you start to see and have more knowledge on what's available

2040
03:13:57,909 --> 03:14:03,057
in services, things tend to grow as well. This is not an unduplicated client count.

2041
03:14:03,939 --> 03:14:07,169
This could be somebody receiving services in multiple months.

2042
03:14:11,032 --> 03:14:16,007
This slide shows just a brief snapshot of all of our different funding streams, um,

2043
03:14:16,129 --> 03:14:21,409
and so this, uh, we have our substance use block grant funding, our mental health

2044
03:14:21,409 --> 03:14:24,929
block grant funding, and then the partnership health plan, which is the per user

2045
03:14:24,929 --> 03:14:31,005
per month funding. Um, and so this is just a very high level oversight of at the

2046
03:14:31,005 --> 03:14:33,087
point in time what our spending look like to date.

2047
03:14:37,909 --> 03:14:42,058
And then this slide is our county programs, and so this is everything that we provide

2048
03:14:42,058 --> 03:14:48,054
through our licensed facilities within Shasta County mental health and drug and alcohol

2049
03:14:48,054 --> 03:14:53,419
services. And so we have our collaborative court programs, which is the Addicted

2050
03:14:53,419 --> 03:14:57,939
offender program and the behavioral health court. Those referral sources come through

2051
03:14:57,939 --> 03:15:03,399
the court and probation. And then clients have the option to receive services um

2052
03:15:03,399 --> 03:15:09,079
internally or contract or referred out, um, depending on their needs. Um, CalWorks

2053
03:15:09,079 --> 03:15:15,405
behavioral health team that is through Cal Works, um, they are referred over. Um,

2054
03:15:15,445 --> 03:15:20,245
if they meet criteria, so everyone going through cow Works orientation gets um the

2055
03:15:20,245 --> 03:15:26,435
application so that they can opt into those services if they need them. Um, the core

2056
03:15:26,435 --> 03:15:32,169
program is co-occurring recovery enhancement. So what was noticed by previous county

2057
03:15:32,169 --> 03:15:37,033
staff in about 2021 is that we had clients coming into our access department for

2058
03:15:37,033 --> 03:15:42,729
mental health services that were being turned away because they had um co-occurring

2059
03:15:42,729 --> 03:15:47,945
substance use disorder services as well. So They were being told to go get sober

2060
03:15:47,945 --> 03:15:52,145
first and then come back for mental health. So that program was really tailored to

2061
03:15:52,145 --> 03:15:56,695
identify those clients to be able to connect them immediately because sending somebody

2062
03:15:56,695 --> 03:16:03,008
out to get help is that just does not work well for anyone. The other really great

2063
03:16:03,008 --> 03:16:10,084
thing about our programs is that we currently have uh clients or staff that were

2064
03:16:10,084 --> 03:16:15,059
former participants in these programs now working for us. So being able to bring

2065
03:16:15,059 --> 03:16:22,006
that lens to the to the table is really helpful to support.

2066
03:16:23,919 --> 03:16:27,006
Support our clients because they've been through it and they understand what it looks

2067
03:16:27,006 --> 03:16:34,008
like and what the needs are. This is just a brief overview of the number of graduates

2068
03:16:34,008 --> 03:16:40,052
for each of these programs over the last 3 years. We did see a dip in some referrals

2069
03:16:40,052 --> 03:16:46,000
for certain programs, and so we expect that for women's recovery in particular, because

2070
03:16:46,000 --> 03:16:53,709
they were hit by COVID, that that should increase going forward. And then lastly,

2071
03:16:53,719 --> 03:16:58,079
just really quick, here are some new initiatives and legislation coming out. SB 43

2072
03:16:58,079 --> 03:17:05,075
expands the definition of grave disability to include substance use disorder, behavioral

2073
03:17:05,075 --> 03:17:11,949
health transformation, or MHSA to BHSA will allow us to pay and fund programs that

2074
03:17:11,949 --> 03:17:18,554
are just for substance use disorder. is essentially another collaborative court process

2075
03:17:18,554 --> 03:17:22,985
that we've been working with the DA and other county agencies to set up a referral

2076
03:17:22,985 --> 03:17:27,675
process for that and alignment with our other services, and then we did just close

2077
03:17:27,675 --> 03:17:33,034
an RFP for our sober living so that we will be getting additional beds and resources

2078
03:17:33,034 --> 03:17:39,199
for our specific clients as well. So we're in the contracting phase for that. And

2079
03:17:39,199 --> 03:17:42,389
that is all, and I'm happy to answer questions.

2080
03:17:45,479 --> 03:17:51,909
To about plumber. Thank you Bailey and Doctor Mou, uh, and it's been great to see,

2081
03:17:52,004 --> 03:17:55,199
uh, a good bit of this information at the Mental Health Alcohol and Drug Advisory

2082
03:17:55,199 --> 03:18:01,189
board meetings as well. Uh, the, I had two questions. One was regarding on that,

2083
03:18:01,028 --> 03:18:09,006
uh, one slide with the horizontal bars, uh, where there's 1300 members or so. The,

2084
03:18:09,139 --> 03:18:15,086
what I was wondering is, um, do is that out of the total partnership members for

2085
03:18:15,086 --> 03:18:22,209
Shasta County and what is, what is the total partnership members? I believe that

2086
03:18:22,034 --> 03:18:27,005
is 66,000. Let me see.

2087
03:18:33,219 --> 03:18:40,008
Yeah, 66,676 were um enrolled in the um the partnership health plan,

2088
03:18:41,439 --> 03:18:46,469
um, and that was as of December of 2024. OK, so it's actually quite a small percentage,

2089
03:18:46,649 --> 03:18:53,000
uh, who are participating in SUD services out of that total. Yes, looking back on

2090
03:18:53,000 --> 03:18:58,008
previous years of data, so right now the data for 24, 25 is a little bit volatile,

2091
03:18:58,084 --> 03:19:02,075
for lack of better words, just because there is such a long lag time, but looking

2092
03:19:02,075 --> 03:19:10,008
back at 23, 24, um, we finished that year out with serving 1,827

2093
03:19:10,008 --> 03:19:17,669
beneficiaries. OK, thank you. And then the one slide where you had uh funding sources

2094
03:19:17,669 --> 03:19:23,459
with remaining balances. Mhm. The, is that for this fiscal year, meaning it will

2095
03:19:23,459 --> 03:19:30,149
uh it will end in June 30th? Yes, um, and with budget hearings starting next month,

2096
03:19:30,239 --> 03:19:35,051
there will be updated data for that as well, um, because we are pretty on trend to

2097
03:19:35,051 --> 03:19:40,409
be spending uh those full allocations. And the ones that we have been a little bit

2098
03:19:40,054 --> 03:19:45,062
uh less than a lot of that is tied to staffing. OK, yeah, because it looked like

2099
03:19:45,062 --> 03:19:49,179
there was a decent portion of each of those balances that were still remaining. I

2100
03:19:49,179 --> 03:19:55,037
don't know when that was as of February or March I wanna say, so OK. But what you

2101
03:19:55,037 --> 03:19:58,081
are saying is that we are on track to spend those full amounts or we are able to

2102
03:19:58,081 --> 03:20:04,025
roll them over into a future year. Um, so they don't roll over for the grant funding,

2103
03:20:04,409 --> 03:20:08,689
um, but we do have another allocation. So both of those grants are non-competitive

2104
03:20:08,689 --> 03:20:16,076
by annual grants, um, and so, Uh, so we applied last year. This

2105
03:20:16,076 --> 03:20:20,026
is our first year of funding, and then we will have that same amount of funding for

2106
03:20:20,026 --> 03:20:25,056
the next year. Um, but like I said, I think that during budget hearings we'll have

2107
03:20:25,056 --> 03:20:32,027
a lot more, um, updated information on where our true projections are. OK, thank

2108
03:20:32,027 --> 03:20:40,003
you. Mhm. Supervisor Arman. Hi Bailey. So that the chart, if we go

2109
03:20:40,003 --> 03:20:40,085
back

2110
03:20:42,179 --> 03:20:49,669
and it was trending up that one and you, you mentioned, you mentioned that that um

2111
03:20:51,005 --> 03:20:57,639
That wasn't necessarily more people because some of them are coming back every month

2112
03:20:58,054 --> 03:21:05,001
several times but that's not necessarily showing a an alarming. I know everything's

2113
03:21:05,001 --> 03:21:11,169
pretty alarming but uh. It's not as alarming as it looks. No, our number of beneficiaries

2114
03:21:11,169 --> 03:21:16,077
have been pretty stable over the last couple of years. The change with this that

2115
03:21:16,077 --> 03:21:20,729
I anticipate, you know, again with any changes we can tie it back to all different

2116
03:21:20,729 --> 03:21:28,409
kinds of Environmental factors or community things like that. For this, the 2121,

2117
03:21:28,005 --> 03:21:34,239
22, 22, 23, that's really when fentanyl was hitting and coming into the systems and

2118
03:21:34,239 --> 03:21:39,029
so with that or any opioid use disorder, that's going to increase the services. Because

2119
03:21:39,029 --> 03:21:45,053
it's a daily, weekly, um, more regular thing than, say, you know, uh outpatient or

2120
03:21:45,053 --> 03:21:50,129
recovery services, those types of things, because that includes not services. So

2121
03:21:50,129 --> 03:21:54,639
I think that that is likely tied to why there's such a significant increase with

2122
03:21:54,639 --> 03:22:02,429
the actual services. Is that, is that an indicator of the, the addiction being so

2123
03:22:02,429 --> 03:22:07,929
strong that they're, I know you're building the clientele, but for lack of a better

2124
03:22:07,929 --> 03:22:15,058
description. So with opioid use disorder, um, you know somebody that

2125
03:22:15,058 --> 03:22:19,739
does engage in medically assisted treatment, that is something that they could be

2126
03:22:19,739 --> 03:22:24,078
on for the rest of their life just because, you know, and I'm not the doctor is still

2127
03:22:24,078 --> 03:22:31,003
here and has any input, but you know that's something that changes them physiologically

2128
03:22:31,003 --> 03:22:38,053
and so. That type of medication may be something that their systems need to function

2129
03:22:38,053 --> 03:22:45,639
for the remainder of their life. It's so the the addictions. Very strong.

2130
03:22:45,078 --> 03:22:52,649
Yes or get away from. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.

2131
03:22:54,077 --> 03:23:00,459
No, I think, one quick. What's, uh, what's PUPM stand for? Per user per month. OK,

2132
03:23:01,449 --> 03:23:06,061
thank you, Doctor, Ms. Carter, thank you both very much. Appreciate you coming in.

2133
03:23:06,077 --> 03:23:10,005
Thank you. And just to confirm, we don't have any requests to speak for this item.

2134
03:23:10,699 --> 03:23:18,076
OK. All right, so we're gonna take um Public comment or closed session items are

2135
03:23:18,076 --> 03:23:25,062
12 and 13. Do we have any speakers? We do not share. Where are we going for closed

2136
03:23:25,062 --> 03:23:30,086
session? Uh, the board will be headed into the community room. OK. With that are

2137
03:23:30,086 --> 03:23:36,219
adjourned, we will be, we will not be back, or not adjourned, sorry, we are at recess.

2138
03:23:36,026 --> 03:23:43,379
We'll be back not before, uh, looks like one o'clock. We will not be back before

2139
03:23:43,379 --> 03:23:45,219
one. With that, we're recess.

2140
03:23:50,209 --> 03:23:57,001
Returning from closed session, Councilors in reportable action. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

2141
03:23:57,055 --> 03:24:05,007
On item R12. Uh, no reportable action on Rood versus Lockwood, uh, Littlefield

2142
03:24:05,007 --> 03:24:09,629
versus County of Shasta, uh, permission to hire counsel and defend the claim has

2143
03:24:09,629 --> 03:24:16,959
been given. Border versus David J. Rickert and County of Shasta, uh, hire outside

2144
03:24:16,959 --> 03:24:22,076
counsel and defend the claim permission is given. And our 13 no portable action.

2145
03:24:24,179 --> 03:24:31,669
All right, thank you. Moving on to our 6. This is out of the CAO's office. I'll let

2146
03:24:31,669 --> 03:24:37,989
Stuart Newel introduce it. Chair, I'm actually gonna defer to Deputy CEO Erin Britain.

2147
03:24:38,219 --> 03:24:38,077
OK.

2148
03:24:45,709 --> 03:24:50,034
Hold on one second, your microphone's not on. Stewart's already 0 for 1. There's

2149
03:24:50,034 --> 03:24:54,078
a demerit for Stuart. OK, one more time. Stephanie's not here and the wheels just

2150
03:24:54,078 --> 03:24:58,909
totally fall off. Go ahead. Good afternoon, chair crime members of the board and

2151
03:24:58,909 --> 03:25:03,779
retained Deputy County Executive Officer. On January 7, the Board of Supervisors

2152
03:25:03,779 --> 03:25:08,018
voted unanimously to establish an ad hoc committee to draft a strategic plan and

2153
03:25:08,018 --> 03:25:12,359
assigned supervisors plumber and Long to that committee. On March 25th, the board

2154
03:25:12,359 --> 03:25:16,000
heard a presentation on the activities of this group and considered a recommendation

2155
03:25:16,000 --> 03:25:21,002
by the ad hoc committee to hire a consultant to complete the strategic plan, including

2156
03:25:21,002 --> 03:25:24,081
public engagement activities to ensure the strategic plan reflects the priorities

2157
03:25:24,081 --> 03:25:29,043
of the public. The board expressed a desire to have the strategic plan be developed

2158
03:25:29,043 --> 03:25:33,062
in-house rather than by a consultant with the exception of the public engagement

2159
03:25:33,062 --> 03:25:38,419
and information gathering. The board agreed the public engagement and information

2160
03:25:38,419 --> 03:25:42,629
gathering piece should be completed by an objective neutral third party to ensure

2161
03:25:42,629 --> 03:25:47,016
there is no undue influence by the members of the board or staff. The board voted

2162
03:25:47,016 --> 03:25:52,035
50 to have the ad hoc committee draft an RFP for the board to consider. Before you

2163
03:25:52,035 --> 03:25:57,039
for consideration today is this draft RFP. The RFP does not include a maximum compensation

2164
03:25:57,039 --> 03:26:01,031
as the committee felt it was best to leave the amount for the board to consider and

2165
03:26:01,031 --> 03:26:05,007
give direction on. The board could choose to have staff issue the RFP without a max

2166
03:26:05,007 --> 03:26:10,299
compensation. However, it's generally a better idea to include a max compensation

2167
03:26:10,299 --> 03:26:14,007
so applicants can submit proposals that align with the resources the board is willing

2168
03:26:14,007 --> 03:26:20,018
to commit to this process. With that, that is the end of my presentation. I will

2169
03:26:20,018 --> 03:26:23,529
turn it over to supervisors plumber and long for any additional information.

2170
03:26:26,043 --> 03:26:31,149
We have any public comments? No, chair, we have no public comment for this item.

2171
03:26:32,859 --> 03:26:38,029
All right, Supervisor Plumber Long, either one of you wanna go first? So I just say

2172
03:26:38,029 --> 03:26:42,589
that we worked on uh refining the scope of this, I think to to be in a good place

2173
03:26:42,589 --> 03:26:46,099
where it defines clearly what we are looking for and has a clear set of deliverables

2174
03:26:46,099 --> 03:26:51,189
that uh we are hoping will be produced through there and so I feel comfortable with

2175
03:26:51,189 --> 03:26:58,819
the direction of this. So max compensation. Max compensation, uh, so we're gonna,

2176
03:26:59,209 --> 03:27:04,066
the idea is to see what comes in, uh, and then we can, that's one of the rating criteria

2177
03:27:04,097 --> 03:27:11,169
that we use to evaluate uh is cost, so that will go into the factor of which one

2178
03:27:11,169 --> 03:27:15,629
we ultimately select. Is there anybody that's um Supervisor long is there anything

2179
03:27:15,629 --> 03:27:20,033
you want to add to that? No, I was just gonna ask, uh, you mentioned it's advisable

2180
03:27:20,033 --> 03:27:26,819
to have the upper ceiling. What would you set that up for what we've Considered.

2181
03:27:28,189 --> 03:27:33,018
So I mean I would say if I were going in I would probably set it at $50,000 as a

2182
03:27:33,018 --> 03:27:38,052
max compensation at the high end. um I don't advise that we go in without a max compensation

2183
03:27:38,052 --> 03:27:44,689
because what we could get is these great proposals that are $200,000 and well, not

2184
03:27:44,689 --> 03:27:48,008
just that, it wastes people's time. Like the people that created it. I mean, we create

2185
03:27:48,008 --> 03:27:54,068
RFPs for my company and I mean we'll have 80+ hours of 2 or 3 people into one. Yeah,

2186
03:27:55,000 --> 03:27:58,016
I mean, my recommendation if we're gonna get, sorry if we're gonna get something

2187
03:27:58,016 --> 03:28:03,002
that is within what we can afford rather than getting kind of the Cadillac version

2188
03:28:03,002 --> 03:28:07,004
we're like we love that but we can't really afford that that setting kind of our

2189
03:28:07,004 --> 03:28:11,069
max, you know, ceiling, not to say that somebody couldn't come in lower than that

2190
03:28:11,069 --> 03:28:15,029
max ceiling, obviously that would be a consideration which a supervisor plumber put

2191
03:28:15,029 --> 03:28:21,089
um. I mentioned is one of the criteria on rating it. Yeah, I mean, one of the um

2192
03:28:21,089 --> 03:28:26,035
CEO Ricker, do you have any thoughts about, about this? Other than what Mr. Berin

2193
03:28:26,035 --> 03:28:29,083
has shared, I mean, I know I haven't got to speak to either supervisors plumber or

2194
03:28:29,083 --> 03:28:31,007
long about it because they're on the ad hoc committee, so.

2195
03:28:33,299 --> 03:28:38,069
Yes, Mr. Chairman, my, my, my general focus is on, uh, long-term capital projects

2196
03:28:38,069 --> 03:28:43,589
and efficiently use the resources and focusing on that specific aspect of it, the

2197
03:28:43,589 --> 03:28:48,589
community engagement portion, um, if the board feels that's a component they want

2198
03:28:48,589 --> 03:28:55,109
to add to this project, that's at the board's discretion. I mean, um. So, supervisor

2199
03:28:55,109 --> 03:29:01,016
uh lumber Long is, is the next steps for this, the com the, we, we do the community

2200
03:29:01,016 --> 03:29:08,919
engagement component and then something is brought forth, is that Yes, as, uh,

2201
03:29:09,002 --> 03:29:13,012
as part of this process, the key deliverable would be that they would present a set

2202
03:29:13,012 --> 03:29:18,002
of priorities for goals for the county out of this process that is derived from both

2203
03:29:18,002 --> 03:29:24,359
the community department heads, uh, staff as well, and that that would be used as

2204
03:29:24,359 --> 03:29:29,016
kind of the foundation for the strategic plan and that that would help us understand

2205
03:29:29,016 --> 03:29:33,039
kind of what are the key priorities of the county. And and Supervisor Plumber, um,

2206
03:29:33,399 --> 03:29:37,064
and I haven't asked you this before, but. Where would you cap this based on your

2207
03:29:37,064 --> 03:29:40,839
professional expertise because I don't want to go in too high and I don't want to

2208
03:29:40,839 --> 03:29:46,709
go in too low because addressing the problems that we could have where we get Cadillac

2209
03:29:46,709 --> 03:29:53,027
plan and all kinds of stuff that we don't want to pay for. So where would you professionally,

2210
03:29:53,043 --> 03:29:55,000
does 50 sound reasonable to you?

2211
03:29:57,002 --> 03:30:01,054
I'm sorry, sorry. Yeah, I think we had talked about this likely being a 3 month process,

2212
03:30:01,007 --> 03:30:08,079
uh, and so if we assume, uh, $15,000 a month, uh, I think

2213
03:30:08,079 --> 03:30:13,043
that's likely to be reasonable for this. Yeah, so I'm gonna make a motion that we

2214
03:30:13,043 --> 03:30:18,035
cap it at $10,000 because I, I think I mean we're already almost we're going into

2215
03:30:18,035 --> 03:30:22,229
our 6th month of working on this, right, 5th month, and we're talking about another

2216
03:30:22,229 --> 03:30:27,009
3 months. We're gonna have a strategic plan. Uh, in a year, and I think our strategic

2217
03:30:27,009 --> 03:30:30,077
plan, I mean, capital projects that we have like a possible medical school, we have

2218
03:30:30,077 --> 03:30:35,109
the sheriff's alternative custody program, we have some uh things coming around,

2219
03:30:35,025 --> 03:30:39,007
uh, homelessness and the veterans in, I mean, What else is there? I mean, what are

2220
03:30:39,007 --> 03:30:42,859
the big other issues that you guys are working on the strategic plan with? I'm just

2221
03:30:42,859 --> 03:30:47,379
curious. I, I can't imagine it taking a year and $50,000 to tell us what we already

2222
03:30:47,379 --> 03:30:53,025
know. I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm just curious and I'm not saying. That people that do that

2223
03:30:53,025 --> 03:30:58,091
work, you know, that's great, but we're That's my motion. I'm gonna say, cause I

2224
03:30:58,091 --> 03:31:03,109
would like to see Noa Short, Aaron Britain, and Dave Rickert knock this out. And

2225
03:31:03,109 --> 03:31:07,000
if someone wants to come, I mean, maybe the Reading Chamber wants to step up or somebody

2226
03:31:07,000 --> 03:31:10,069
wants to step up and lead the community engagement thing who's already integrated

2227
03:31:10,069 --> 03:31:15,419
in the community. So I'll make my motion really clear. I say we cap it at $10,000

2228
03:31:15,079 --> 03:31:20,077
and then we turn this over to Noda, Aaron and Dave, Matt and Allen, you guys stay

2229
03:31:20,077 --> 03:31:24,081
involved if you, if you would like and let's get something brought back. You know,

2230
03:31:24,097 --> 03:31:30,259
by early August. That's when. And you know, just, I just want to say that, you know,

2231
03:31:30,339 --> 03:31:34,189
we're certainly willing to work on this. I think that this direction was from the

2232
03:31:34,189 --> 03:31:38,095
board to have somebody that was, you know, not already involved in county business

2233
03:31:38,095 --> 03:31:43,939
and so that they could get, you know, a view from the public like what the public

2234
03:31:43,939 --> 03:31:47,077
wants to see that could help. this process that wouldn't be, I mean, I would try

2235
03:31:47,077 --> 03:31:52,009
not to be biased, but I will tell you I, you know, I'll give one example I look at

2236
03:31:52,009 --> 03:31:56,609
the rodeo. The rodeo has been screaming for that for years. They've spent hundreds

2237
03:31:56,609 --> 03:32:01,029
of thousands of dollars getting to a place that everybody was screaming about 5 to

2238
03:32:01,029 --> 03:32:06,002
8 years ago when this came up. Like, it's ridiculous spending that kind of money

2239
03:32:06,569 --> 03:32:11,419
getting to a destination that everybody already knew. So I mean that that's my motion.

2240
03:32:11,629 --> 03:32:17,025
Well, in, in discussion if we're doing board, it's been seconded right, so I think

2241
03:32:17,025 --> 03:32:24,109
we stay with the 50 because it was the express clear intent of this board that we

2242
03:32:24,109 --> 03:32:29,919
did not want the boards. Thumbprint all over this and any kind of potential leaning

2243
03:32:29,919 --> 03:32:36,035
on anybody to develop a project, so we wanted to spend adequate resources to get

2244
03:32:36,035 --> 03:32:40,189
it done professionally because we're going to be living with this, you know, if it's

2245
03:32:40,189 --> 03:32:45,039
going to be something that's put together with a lot of Internal biases, then it's,

2246
03:32:45,439 --> 03:32:51,000
it could be worse product than not having one at all. So I would stay with the 50

2247
03:32:51,000 --> 03:32:55,959
and that's why I asked Matt's question or supervisor plumber, the question as to

2248
03:32:55,959 --> 03:33:02,759
what would be reasonable because we've already agreed and I think right now we would.

2249
03:33:04,072 --> 03:33:10,068
We've got an estimated cost of 150,000 written in here, and we cannot change it up

2250
03:33:10,068 --> 03:33:16,008
at this point. The board already voted and we would be, this would be a question

2251
03:33:16,008 --> 03:33:22,085
for council. I believe we are prohibited from coming back. Within one year under

2252
03:33:22,085 --> 03:33:29,006
Rosenberg's to modify terms of what we already voted on and we need to stand tall

2253
03:33:29,006 --> 03:33:34,209
with what we already voted on because we can't bring this back for another board

2254
03:33:34,209 --> 03:33:40,006
decision. We've already decided this. So, so that, that wouldn't be correct. If,

2255
03:33:40,069 --> 03:33:45,035
if the board uh lets an RF a contract, you can always bring it back and modify the

2256
03:33:45,035 --> 03:33:52,043
terms of that. I mean, I, I, I think $10,000 is not sufficient to have a professional

2257
03:33:52,043 --> 03:33:59,649
outfit do this, uh, so I think, you know, $7000. Well, first of all, that invoice

2258
03:33:59,649 --> 03:34:03,097
only carried through a short portion of the time, right, not even the full duration

2259
03:34:03,097 --> 03:34:08,091
of the time period in which he's done the work leading up to this. Now it'll be 40,000,

2260
03:34:09,049 --> 03:34:13,339
uh, and that's for a very specific area. We're talking about a county-wide strategic

2261
03:34:13,339 --> 03:34:17,359
plan which is much broader and we're saying we're asking them to do it in half the

2262
03:34:17,359 --> 03:34:22,459
time that we're asking that consultant to do it. So I think to even be on par with

2263
03:34:22,459 --> 03:34:28,018
that consulting effort that it makes sense to uh make it around 50,000. And so I'll

2264
03:34:28,018 --> 03:34:33,025
make a substitute motion that we approved the RFP as stated with a cap of $50,000

2265
03:34:33,459 --> 03:34:34,979
and I will second that motion.

2266
03:34:37,058 --> 03:34:43,097
OK, and, and, and. Just correct me, just I'm trying to clarify this, but Rosenberg

2267
03:34:43,097 --> 03:34:47,006
says we can't bring this back within a year unless it's a 4-fifth vote, right, to

2268
03:34:47,006 --> 03:34:53,037
suspend Rosenberg. No, no, that's not correct. So, what you guys are approving here

2269
03:34:53,037 --> 03:34:58,259
is, is an RFP. If you wanted to bring it back and modify its terms because you didn't

2270
03:34:58,259 --> 03:35:02,569
get any responses, that's not a violation of any rule. What would be a violation

2271
03:35:02,569 --> 03:35:07,049
of a rule is if you, you put a certain item on, you guys voted that you did not want

2272
03:35:07,049 --> 03:35:13,214
to move forward with. A particular item and then you place it on another agenda shortly

2273
03:35:13,214 --> 03:35:18,055
afterwards. That's what Rosenberg is trying to prevent, essentially taking multiple

2274
03:35:18,055 --> 03:35:25,134
bites at the same apple, um, but modifying a contract or modifying an RFP after the

2275
03:35:25,134 --> 03:35:31,012
fact is completely appropriate. So you're, you're saying the only thing Rosenberg

2276
03:35:31,012 --> 03:35:37,079
would cover with the 4 5th vote within a year would be the elimination of all discussion

2277
03:35:37,079 --> 03:35:44,259
about having an outside RFP, right, and Rosenberg is a is essentially rules of order,

2278
03:35:44,549 --> 03:35:50,959
um, you know, it's not, doesn't have the the power of government code. Yeah, and,

2279
03:35:51,089 --> 03:35:55,037
and my, are you guys? Yeah, and, and my thing is when I see all the sheriff deputies

2280
03:35:55,037 --> 03:36:00,041
and the sheriff himself here, I just think, man, I don't want to spend $50,000 when

2281
03:36:00,041 --> 03:36:03,033
we're trying to get the DHE program and because this, this, this money comes from

2282
03:36:03,033 --> 03:36:09,379
the general fund, correct? See, uh. Uh, CEO, what's that? Yes, correct, yeah, so

2283
03:36:09,379 --> 03:36:13,859
I, I mean $10,000 was really just if there's a community organization or somebody

2284
03:36:13,859 --> 03:36:16,074
that says, hey, I want to pitch in and help out the community and I can lead the

2285
03:36:16,074 --> 03:36:20,859
citizen group because we know it's going to be the same 50 to 75 people they're gonna

2286
03:36:20,859 --> 03:36:24,004
show up somewhere. They're gonna put Post-it notes up, which I think is great, but

2287
03:36:24,299 --> 03:36:28,379
the more I've worked with auditor controller Noa Short, Mr. Berta, and Dave Rickert,

2288
03:36:28,419 --> 03:36:33,068
I think. The process you guys have been under with the amount of knowledge and back

2289
03:36:33,068 --> 03:36:38,025
history of the money that uh Aaron and Nova possess, I think we can get a great direction

2290
03:36:38,025 --> 03:36:42,029
and if someone wants to step up in the community for that money and it's really them

2291
03:36:42,029 --> 03:36:46,049
pitching in as much as it as it is anything else. A lot of people ask, how can I

2292
03:36:46,049 --> 03:36:51,056
get involved? Well, here's a way a civic organization could get involved. Um, and,

2293
03:36:51,064 --> 03:36:55,064
and lead the community uh component of that. So we, we'll take the substitute motion

2294
03:36:55,064 --> 03:37:01,459
of the 50001st and depending on how that goes, we'll take the 1 for 10. We'll start

2295
03:37:01,459 --> 03:37:08,399
to my uh left with uh. Nice. Good catch. We'll, we'll start to my left with supervisor.

2296
03:37:08,709 --> 03:37:14,299
Supervisor Wong. So this is the subsequent motion by Supervisor plumber. Yes, correct.

2297
03:37:14,589 --> 03:37:17,083
Supervisor Kellstrom. Supervisor cry. Supervisor Harman.

2298
03:37:19,689 --> 03:37:24,609
Supervisor plumber. Yes. All right, fails 23. We'll take the substitute motion. Uh,

2299
03:37:24,007 --> 03:37:29,979
we'll start to my right with supervisor plumber. Supervisor plumber. No. Supervisor

2300
03:37:29,979 --> 03:37:35,006
Harman. There's the substitute motion for the 10,000 authorizing of the 10,000.

2301
03:37:37,169 --> 03:37:37,018
So

2302
03:37:39,879 --> 03:37:43,075
Wasn't that a primary motion? This, this is, oh, I'm sorry, the prime, the primary,

2303
03:37:43,759 --> 03:37:46,079
the primary motion. I'm sorry, yeah, it was my original that's the original motion.

2304
03:37:47,004 --> 03:37:50,000
You're, you're back to your primary motion. Sorry primary that's what it got, yeah,

2305
03:37:50,002 --> 03:37:57,002
supervisor. Yes. Supervisor cry. Yes, Supervisor Kelstrom. Sorry. Supervisor long.

2306
03:37:57,029 --> 03:38:02,039
No, OK. Passes 32. And then, uh, CEO Ricker, when do you think, uh, how fast can

2307
03:38:02,039 --> 03:38:06,043
that get out and we can turn that around and get moving on it. I will work with staff.

2308
03:38:06,047 --> 03:38:10,709
We'll get out as soon as we possibly can, and uh we'll try to shift the end of August

2309
03:38:10,709 --> 03:38:16,189
deadline to bring up the proposals. I know we had spoken a little bit very briefly

2310
03:38:16,189 --> 03:38:20,509
about, you know, some counties have like these 7 binders up on the shelf that collect

2311
03:38:20,509 --> 03:38:25,589
dust. So this is, uh, gonna be very it's gonna be very financially focused, very

2312
03:38:25,589 --> 03:38:29,091
financially focused, very outcome driven, yes, with metrics. Thank you, sir. All

2313
03:38:29,091 --> 03:38:37,018
right, moving on to uh R 7. District attorney discussing consider directing

2314
03:38:37,018 --> 03:38:42,087
staff to create alternately staff legal secretary, 1 and 2 classifications. Welcome,

2315
03:38:42,899 --> 03:38:47,959
Ms. Bridget. Thank you. Good afternoon, Chairman Cry, members of the board of supervisors,

2316
03:38:48,004 --> 03:38:52,799
Stephanie Bridget, District attorney. Yes, so we're here to talk about changing the

2317
03:38:52,799 --> 03:38:57,072
legal secretary classification for the county. Um, as it stands right now, there

2318
03:38:57,072 --> 03:39:03,479
is one classification, and that's just simply legal secretary. The request is to

2319
03:39:03,479 --> 03:39:09,099
consider to add alternate classifications to have a legal secretary 12 position.

2320
03:39:10,033 --> 03:39:15,959
Um, while this impacts my office, it also impacts other offices. It impacts the public

2321
03:39:15,959 --> 03:39:22,839
defender, uh, probation department, HHSA, the Public Guardian, um, as well as County

2322
03:39:22,839 --> 03:39:29,709
council. Um, all of those impacted departments are supportive of having this classification

2323
03:39:29,709 --> 03:39:35,062
for Legal Secretary 12. Um, so that's going to be the request. I can't speak for

2324
03:39:35,062 --> 03:39:40,083
the other departments, but just to, to speak to, to my office just a little bit on

2325
03:39:40,083 --> 03:39:47,058
this issue. Um, the legal secretaries is really a very critical position in the office.

2326
03:39:48,029 --> 03:39:54,379
Um, every single case in my office literally begins and ends with the legal secretaries.

2327
03:39:54,087 --> 03:40:02,000
Um, and it takes a lot of time to become proficient in that position. Um, as it stands

2328
03:40:02,000 --> 03:40:06,799
right now, with legal secretary not having an alternatively staffed 12, and just

2329
03:40:06,799 --> 03:40:13,279
having legal secretary, that position will top out at 4.5 years. So there really

2330
03:40:13,279 --> 03:40:19,091
is no career advancement offered for that position. And in my office, as I said,

2331
03:40:20,024 --> 03:40:26,043
it impacts every single case. Just uh to give you an example, um, our legal secretaries

2332
03:40:26,043 --> 03:40:32,047
starting from our intake, they are responsible for filing every single criminal case.

2333
03:40:32,068 --> 03:40:38,016
They're typing up all of the criminal cases, um, where attention to detail is paramount.

2334
03:40:38,024 --> 03:40:43,002
I mean, it's so important for the rights of our citizens that we have. People who

2335
03:40:43,002 --> 03:40:48,008
are properly trained and have been in those positions for a long time. Uh, they're

2336
03:40:48,008 --> 03:40:53,004
responsible for warrants, for getting people arrested and to show up in court, getting

2337
03:40:53,004 --> 03:40:58,006
those ready. Um, every piece of evidence that we need to prove a case goes through

2338
03:40:58,006 --> 03:41:05,004
their hands. They're responsible for ordering, for uh obtaining, for marking, for

2339
03:41:05,004 --> 03:41:12,056
delivering everything to defense counsel, every photo, every video, um, every Birth

2340
03:41:12,056 --> 03:41:17,729
certificate, death certificate, medical records, anything that we have to have to

2341
03:41:17,729 --> 03:41:23,879
prove a case goes through them. It, it, and I know I've presented here before about

2342
03:41:23,879 --> 03:41:30,012
how many cases we have. We get close to 10,000 cases per year that this legal secretary

2343
03:41:30,012 --> 03:41:37,012
team is in charge of every single piece of evidence involved, and that takes a substantial

2344
03:41:37,012 --> 03:41:42,097
amount of time. To really learn and become proficient in all of that, um, every witness

2345
03:41:42,097 --> 03:41:48,049
that we need for court, they're responsible for doing all the subpoenas, handling

2346
03:41:48,049 --> 03:41:54,049
the phone calls, explaining to not only witnesses and victims and the public different

2347
03:41:54,049 --> 03:41:59,037
parts of the legal process, knowing the difference between if they're coming up for

2348
03:41:59,037 --> 03:42:03,022
a preliminary hearing or a trial to make sure that they're answering those types

2349
03:42:03,022 --> 03:42:09,016
of questions. Um, our motions, all the motions that we're filing before court, before

2350
03:42:09,016 --> 03:42:13,149
trial, during in trial, they're the ones that are handling that, that they're getting

2351
03:42:13,149 --> 03:42:20,229
them all in final form, getting them approved, getting them filed. Um, they are doing

2352
03:42:20,229 --> 03:42:25,002
all the motion work that we need during trial, assist really being the right hand

2353
03:42:25,002 --> 03:42:30,279
person to the attorney in trial with their exhibits, their jury instructions. I mean,

2354
03:42:30,319 --> 03:42:35,000
it's a really an integral part of the office is the legal secretary position. It

2355
03:42:35,000 --> 03:42:40,419
takes years for a person to learn that job, to be proficient in that job, so that

2356
03:42:40,419 --> 03:42:45,045
we can make sure that they, you know, they're not making mistakes because they don't

2357
03:42:45,045 --> 03:42:49,072
have the years of experience. They don't have the training, they don't, they haven't

2358
03:42:49,072 --> 03:42:55,031
seen every type of motion, every type of case. It takes them years to go from handling.

2359
03:42:56,035 --> 03:43:01,629
You know, a small misdemeanor case load, working their way through intake, low-level

2360
03:43:01,629 --> 03:43:07,209
felonies, and then ultimately up to where they can handle serious and violent felonies,

2361
03:43:07,229 --> 03:43:12,083
where they can handle child molest cases and, and murder cases. So this is a very

2362
03:43:12,083 --> 03:43:19,549
important, very extremely important uh position in my office, and really, the success

2363
03:43:19,549 --> 03:43:26,058
of every single one of our prosecutions depends on those positions. Um. But with

2364
03:43:26,058 --> 03:43:31,549
4.5 years until they are talked out at a legal secretary, unfortunately it causes

2365
03:43:31,549 --> 03:43:37,027
retention issues. We have people who they look for other positions. They maybe move

2366
03:43:37,027 --> 03:43:41,459
somewhere within the county or once they've got the experience, they move out into

2367
03:43:41,459 --> 03:43:47,047
the private sector um and work as a legal secretary there. So as a county, I want

2368
03:43:47,047 --> 03:43:54,509
us to be um more enticing not only to bring these people in, but also to retain them

2369
03:43:54,509 --> 03:43:59,001
once they're here. Um, it would help with recruiting. Uh, there are many counties

2370
03:43:59,001 --> 03:44:04,002
that offer multiple layers of legal secretary position. We'd be competitive with

2371
03:44:04,002 --> 03:44:11,025
them, with the private legal secretary, um, For private firms in our county as well,

2372
03:44:11,087 --> 03:44:17,018
um, a person right now when they look at the, the job flyer for legal secretary,

2373
03:44:17,439 --> 03:44:23,359
they don't see any career advancement. Legal secretary, and that's it. So we would

2374
03:44:23,359 --> 03:44:29,009
be not only more enticing for recruitment, but we'd be more enticing for retention

2375
03:44:29,024 --> 03:44:34,099
and we'd be able to differentiate those. Secretaries who are in the 1st 123 years

2376
03:44:34,099 --> 03:44:40,439
of their career really learning the technical skills that they need and still have

2377
03:44:40,439 --> 03:44:44,919
career advancement up to a legal secretary too. Um, so that, that's how it is from

2378
03:44:44,919 --> 03:44:50,959
my office and I'm just hopeful that you guys will approve our ability to go from

2379
03:44:50,959 --> 03:44:58,012
Legal Secretary 1 to Legal secret 12. Thank you, um, supervisor Long.

2380
03:44:59,689 --> 03:45:05,189
I just saw him click his first I, sorry, did I, did I, no, I, I just looked down,

2381
03:45:05,379 --> 03:45:12,081
so, OK. Hello, DA, um, thank you for the presentation. Um, so if, if, uh, it takes

2382
03:45:12,081 --> 03:45:19,209
4 years to go through the full steps of a legal secretary, how many steps would that

2383
03:45:19,209 --> 03:45:23,569
include? How many years would it take to get to the top of a legal 2? Well, it's

2384
03:45:23,569 --> 03:45:28,077
going to depend on how quickly a person can be promoted. Um you know, some people

2385
03:45:28,077 --> 03:45:33,027
may work their way through all of those steps through a legal secretary one before

2386
03:45:33,027 --> 03:45:38,299
they ultimately make it to a 2, so then they would have the same steps A through

2387
03:45:38,299 --> 03:45:44,884
F, I believe, a legal secretary too, or you could have someone who You know, trains

2388
03:45:44,884 --> 03:45:50,475
much quicker, becomes much more proficient, and they get promoted when they're step

2389
03:45:50,794 --> 03:45:57,285
1E or step 1B up to a 2. So it's going to vary depending on each individual persons

2390
03:45:57,285 --> 03:46:01,765
and their ability, but it is going to add additional years. And then, and then they

2391
03:46:01,765 --> 03:46:08,129
could come into the next rank 2. Um, at a mid-step, or would it always go to the

2392
03:46:08,129 --> 03:46:12,729
bottom of the next range? It depends on where they're at when they promote to a tube

2393
03:46:12,729 --> 03:46:18,209
because if, yeah, that's what I was going to say is there overlap then with the minimum

2394
03:46:18,209 --> 03:46:23,549
for a tube being below the top for a 1. Because that could cause them to go in at

2395
03:46:23,549 --> 03:46:28,029
a higher step and where I'm going with all this is you had said, um, I think it was

2396
03:46:28,029 --> 03:46:33,095
in there 34,000 was going to be the total cost to implement. Um, that's for my office

2397
03:46:33,095 --> 03:46:39,109
because there are other other offices that are impacted. I believe the total is just

2398
03:46:39,109 --> 03:46:46,529
under 70,000. Um, for all the impacted. Yeah, there were 34, 23 for the public defender

2399
03:46:46,779 --> 03:46:52,819
or for the probation and 8200 bucks for county council. And it would depend on each

2400
03:46:52,819 --> 03:46:59,049
of those departments who they feel is uh at the ability to promote to a 2. OK. Thank

2401
03:46:59,049 --> 03:47:06,009
you. Certainly. It was part of your question, OK, um. Any anybody else

2402
03:47:07,012 --> 03:47:13,129
Well, yeah, I, I'll just chime in and I mean. And I, you know, this Bridget, it sounds

2403
03:47:13,129 --> 03:47:18,018
good. I'm just right now I'm looking at, you know, Reading is claiming a $5 million

2404
03:47:18,018 --> 03:47:23,129
deficit, which is about $8 million. Um, I think Anderson has about $2 million deficit

2405
03:47:23,129 --> 03:47:28,025
and Haman County has about a $5 million deficit. So the one thing I always brag on

2406
03:47:28,025 --> 03:47:35,041
is our CEO has kept us, you know, fluid and, and, and in the black, and I mean, So,

2407
03:47:35,064 --> 03:47:39,025
I, I, you know, I'm, I'm probably gonna lean towards his recommendations, which,

2408
03:47:39,339 --> 03:47:43,066
you know, is, once we change this classification, we're going to open up the floodplas

2409
03:47:43,066 --> 03:47:48,589
to change a lot of classifications and a lot of departments, so. Um, I, I looked

2410
03:47:48,589 --> 03:47:53,029
at your budget yesterday, um, I'm that far in that, um, there was a lot of asks in

2411
03:47:53,029 --> 03:47:58,029
there. This was one of them, um, but there was, I mean, quite a few asks, so I'm

2412
03:47:58,029 --> 03:48:02,056
probably gonna decide on the, on the side of leaving the status quo at this point.

2413
03:48:02,569 --> 03:48:08,079
So thank you though. Uh, yeah, absolutely. Um, just to One thing I want you to consider

2414
03:48:08,079 --> 03:48:15,083
would be the cost of not doing it would be, um, you know, the turnover that we have

2415
03:48:15,083 --> 03:48:22,079
and the hiring, retraining, um getting a person trained and qualified up to the position

2416
03:48:22,079 --> 03:48:29,189
to hold the cases and it's not just a Internal impact on my office. Unfortunately,

2417
03:48:29,259 --> 03:48:33,089
it's an impact to people who are charged with a crime. It's impact of victims, it's

2418
03:48:33,089 --> 03:48:37,779
an impact to witnesses when we're dealing with positions, um, especially that are

2419
03:48:37,779 --> 03:48:42,069
this crucial in the office. So, I, I feel like there's a financial impact of not

2420
03:48:42,069 --> 03:48:48,709
doing it, maybe not as um tangible or his ability to um quantify it so easily, um,

2421
03:48:48,075 --> 03:48:53,379
but it is, you know, it's a, it's a position I've advocated for for a while, so,

2422
03:48:53,047 --> 03:48:57,819
but thank you, thank you. I'll just, uh, I'll, I'll say that I'm not necessarily

2423
03:48:57,819 --> 03:49:01,569
opposed to it, but I definitely, I'm not gonna vote for it today because we have

2424
03:49:01,569 --> 03:49:07,002
the budget hearings in a couple of weeks and I would rather have all the asks. In

2425
03:49:07,002 --> 03:49:11,419
one bucket and kind of go through them because to, to bring this one out then if

2426
03:49:11,419 --> 03:49:15,169
something else comes up in the office that we want to adjust, then we can't go back.

2427
03:49:16,419 --> 03:49:19,054
No, but what I'm saying is I want to discuss this at budget time with all the other

2428
03:49:19,054 --> 03:49:27,006
positions across all the different, so I'll be voting no. To budget plumbing. Yeah,

2429
03:49:27,799 --> 03:49:33,072
I appreciate the relatively inexpensive approach to trying to increase retention

2430
03:49:33,072 --> 03:49:38,043
because I do think a lot of the other strategies for bringing more people are much

2431
03:49:38,043 --> 03:49:44,009
more expensive. Uh, so you know I, I generally support this. I do see the sense in

2432
03:49:44,009 --> 03:49:48,359
kind of having this as part of the budget conversation which I, you know, is in a

2433
03:49:48,359 --> 03:49:54,229
week or two, so. Um, that feels appropriate to me, but I, I think finding innovative

2434
03:49:54,229 --> 03:49:59,029
strategies that are relatively inexpensive, uh, like this, uh, makes sense and are

2435
03:49:59,029 --> 03:50:04,066
a good way to address the cost of turnover that we are experiencing. Right.

2436
03:50:06,379 --> 03:50:13,035
Is there uh, anybody that wants to, um, I'll, I'll just say. I agree with you guys

2437
03:50:13,056 --> 03:50:21,035
that it's, it needs to wait. So we with the rest of the budget. I mean, I, I think,

2438
03:50:21,359 --> 03:50:25,052
I mean, that's the, I know the, the budget hearings are gonna be, I mean, there's

2439
03:50:25,052 --> 03:50:28,075
a lot of departments that are looking for a lot of positions and there's gonna be,

2440
03:50:28,839 --> 03:50:31,879
and I would personally, this is just me, this goes to any department head that would

2441
03:50:31,879 --> 03:50:37,089
be listening as I think it's uh I want to invite them into that process to say, look,

2442
03:50:37,097 --> 03:50:43,033
this is what we have who, not everyone's gonna be happy, obviously. I'm talking about

2443
03:50:43,033 --> 03:50:48,014
even in departments or offices, so, uh, counsel Larmer, do we have to, I know this

2444
03:50:48,014 --> 03:50:53,259
is discussed and consider directing staff, do we have to take a We have to take a

2445
03:50:53,259 --> 03:50:57,074
motion. You do not on this, OK. Anybody else have any questions for district attorney?

2446
03:50:57,779 --> 03:51:01,066
I really appreciate you coming in, and I know we'll run this back in 2 weeks. Sure,

2447
03:51:01,819 --> 03:51:05,939
yeah, I, I'll just incorporate this piece into my presentation at that time. OK,

2448
03:51:06,022 --> 03:51:12,779
I'm going to make a motion. Um, I would make a motion that we approve the reclassification

2449
03:51:12,779 --> 03:51:19,089
of Legal Secretary 1 and 2. I think it's important for Recruitment for retention

2450
03:51:19,089 --> 03:51:25,045
for all the reasons I understand budgets and but this is a reclassification at this

2451
03:51:25,045 --> 03:51:30,085
time and I think it's critical to stabilize a department that is historically been

2452
03:51:30,085 --> 03:51:37,319
facing a lot of turnover and a lot of a lot of issues within there and I think um

2453
03:51:37,085 --> 03:51:42,022
some of the questions I had were. Where would you start? Where would you stop some

2454
03:51:42,022 --> 03:51:46,014
of those kinds of things? I think it'll be a little more seamless than than we might

2455
03:51:46,014 --> 03:51:51,058
be considering, and I don't even know if the 34 is is accurate that it would cost

2456
03:51:51,058 --> 03:51:57,299
that much, but um so I will make that motion that we reclassify at this time our

2457
03:51:57,299 --> 03:51:59,419
7, Legal secretary 1 and 2.

2458
03:52:02,024 --> 03:52:02,029
Uh, question, uh,

2459
03:52:05,629 --> 03:52:12,095
if this is brought up through the budgetary process, is, uh, would that then and

2460
03:52:12,095 --> 03:52:17,259
say that was approved as part of the budget, would that then have to come back later

2461
03:52:17,589 --> 03:52:22,075
or the legal classification to be created or would that happen as one step in the

2462
03:52:22,075 --> 03:52:28,549
budgetary process? So Monica and the HR staff would bring a resolution reclassifying

2463
03:52:28,549 --> 03:52:35,031
those. Have to approve it um as a resolution. Separately from the budgetary process.

2464
03:52:36,259 --> 03:52:42,005
And then, um, say we were to approve this resolution now, does this authorize funding

2465
03:52:42,005 --> 03:52:45,087
for the subsequent fiscal year or would that still have to come through the budgetary

2466
03:52:45,087 --> 03:52:49,031
process? You do not have a resolution in front of you right now, right now you only

2467
03:52:49,031 --> 03:52:54,099
have a direction and a possible or a discussion and direction of staff. So, um, Monica

2468
03:52:54,099 --> 03:53:00,979
would uh bring something back if that is what you directed staff to do. So just so

2469
03:53:00,979 --> 03:53:03,859
that I can clarify real quick, as part of the budget process, if you guys made a

2470
03:53:03,859 --> 03:53:08,005
decision at the budget hearings, we bring back for budget adoption at the end of

2471
03:53:08,005 --> 03:53:12,649
June, any sort of reclasses or new positions comes as part of a salary resolution

2472
03:53:12,649 --> 03:53:16,709
that comes with the budget adoption papers. OK.

2473
03:53:19,339 --> 03:53:23,095
Yes, I'm OK waiting then if that's part of kind of a comprehensive process. So is

2474
03:53:23,095 --> 03:53:28,007
there a second to supervisor Long's motion? Seeing none, motion fails. Thank you,

2475
03:53:28,099 --> 03:53:34,069
A Bridget. Appreciate it. See you in a week or two. Thank you. All right, moving

2476
03:53:34,069 --> 03:53:36,018
to our 8.

2477
03:53:41,299 --> 03:53:43,024
Jessica, yes.

2478
03:53:45,759 --> 03:53:49,759
This is a presentation from Well Path on inmate healthcare and Services in Shasta

2479
03:53:49,759 --> 03:53:54,399
County's jail brought to me by Sheriff Johnson, asked me to sponsor it, so of course

2480
03:53:54,399 --> 03:53:58,075
I did because he's the sheriff. I'd be crazy not to. Welcome Jessica. Thank you.

2481
03:53:58,799 --> 03:54:03,081
Thank you very much. Um, good afternoon, Chair Cry and members of the board. We are

2482
03:54:03,081 --> 03:54:07,083
grateful for the opportunity to be here today to present and introduce ourselves

2483
03:54:07,083 --> 03:54:13,229
to you and additionally provide a few level high-level company updates. My name is

2484
03:54:13,229 --> 03:54:17,509
Jessica Maslam. I'm the vice president of Partnership Development for California

2485
03:54:17,509 --> 03:54:22,087
For Well Path, um, and I'm based out of Sacramento. I'm also joined today by my colleague

2486
03:54:22,087 --> 03:54:27,027
Velvet Hood. Um, I'll start a little bit with a little history on our organization

2487
03:54:27,027 --> 03:54:33,093
and our company. Um, WellPA has been a long, long-term correctional healthcare provider

2488
03:54:33,093 --> 03:54:39,041
in California. We've been doing this since 1984 with our first contract under the

2489
03:54:39,041 --> 03:54:44,569
California Forensic Medical Group, which is still part of our organization. Um, we

2490
03:54:44,569 --> 03:54:51,000
started in Monterey County in 1984. Currently today we work in 30 of the 58 counties

2491
03:54:51,037 --> 03:54:56,649
in California, providing adult correctional healthcare and behavioral health through

2492
03:54:56,649 --> 03:55:03,049
the state. 18 of those include partnerships with probation, providing services to

2493
03:55:03,049 --> 03:55:08,169
those, um, the county's youth population. At Wellpath, we work hard to achieve the

2494
03:55:08,169 --> 03:55:09,839
highest standards in the business.

2495
03:55:12,054 --> 03:55:16,779
We have accreditation in 10 counties throughout California through the National Commission

2496
03:55:16,779 --> 03:55:21,081
on Correctional Healthcare. We've had a 100% success rate in obtaining accreditation

2497
03:55:22,001 --> 03:55:26,089
and have a team of professionals dedicated to achieving and maintaining the standard.

2498
03:55:27,629 --> 03:55:32,419
We've been a proud partner with Shasta County since 2016, and we do remain dedicated

2499
03:55:32,419 --> 03:55:38,109
and focused to improving and delivering compassionate, high quality care to underserved

2500
03:55:38,109 --> 03:55:43,629
and vulnerable populations in a very challenging clinical environment. We have a

2501
03:55:43,629 --> 03:55:48,043
strong partnership with Sheriff Johnson and his team and appreciate all of the collaboration

2502
03:55:48,043 --> 03:55:53,379
and support we received from the sheriff's office. Our team of dedicated professionals

2503
03:55:53,379 --> 03:55:58,339
led by Ms. Hood over here ensures the core values of the organization are put to

2504
03:55:58,339 --> 03:56:03,054
practice daily. And with that, I will turn it over to Velvet to provide an operational

2505
03:56:03,054 --> 03:56:03,689
update.

2506
03:56:06,759 --> 03:56:14,033
So shit, I'm done. h. Thank you, Jessica for the introduction. So again, my name

2507
03:56:14,033 --> 03:56:19,006
is Velvet Hood. I, I serve as the regional vice president for Northern California.

2508
03:56:20,049 --> 03:56:24,049
I have the privilege of overseeing operations in 21 facilities, including Shasta

2509
03:56:24,049 --> 03:56:29,049
County. I would like to begin by acknowledging that it is no secret that providing

2510
03:56:29,049 --> 03:56:33,609
healthcare today is more challenging than ever in delivering care in a custodial

2511
03:56:33,609 --> 03:56:39,045
environment as yet another layer of complexity. Despite these challenges, our organization

2512
03:56:39,045 --> 03:56:44,209
remains steadfast in our commitment to maintain our core principles. Everything we

2513
03:56:44,209 --> 03:56:49,077
do is guided by our five Ps. That's to invest in our people, collaborate with our

2514
03:56:49,077 --> 03:56:55,072
partners, optimize our processes, all to provide exceptional care to our patients

2515
03:56:56,009 --> 03:57:00,081
and deliver outstanding performance. We recognize that no organization is without

2516
03:57:00,081 --> 03:57:06,529
its challenges, and we embrace the importance of continuous improvement. I am personally

2517
03:57:06,529 --> 03:57:10,089
committed to advancing initiatives that reinforce our core principles and ensure

2518
03:57:10,089 --> 03:57:15,049
that our healthcare delivery aligns with the evolving needs of Shasta County. The

2519
03:57:15,049 --> 03:57:20,169
county has been a trusted and valuable partner to us, providing essential support

2520
03:57:20,169 --> 03:57:26,089
and resources that have enabled us to deliver medical services. As we look to the

2521
03:57:26,089 --> 03:57:31,041
future, we see meaningful opportunities to strengthen this partnership. Working together

2522
03:57:31,041 --> 03:57:35,689
to optimize healthcare delivery, promote the health and well-being of those in our

2523
03:57:35,689 --> 03:57:42,041
custody, reduce risk and liability exposure, and remain responsible stewards of public

2524
03:57:42,041 --> 03:57:47,006
resources. We have institutional knowledge that gives us a strong understanding of

2525
03:57:47,006 --> 03:57:53,008
facility operations. The culture, the capabilities and limitations, and historical

2526
03:57:53,008 --> 03:57:58,319
perspective on past challenges, all of which enable us to best align efforts, make

2527
03:57:58,319 --> 03:58:03,031
informed decisions, and provide strategic direction. We would like to extend our

2528
03:58:03,031 --> 03:58:08,359
sincere appreciation to Sheriff Johnson and his team for their continued transparency

2529
03:58:08,359 --> 03:58:13,000
and collaboration. Their commitment to regular meetings and active engagement has

2530
03:58:13,000 --> 03:58:18,669
fostered a strong solution-oriented partnership that continues to support the success

2531
03:58:18,669 --> 03:58:24,419
of our shared mission. There have been ongoing productive discussions around opportunities

2532
03:58:24,419 --> 03:58:29,899
to enhance care and service delivery. One such example is the shared recognition

2533
03:58:29,899 --> 03:58:36,097
to improve operational efficiency in the high-risk booking area. This effort is focused

2534
03:58:36,097 --> 03:58:42,072
on reduction of booking times to expedite the return of arresting officers to duty,

2535
03:58:43,029 --> 03:58:49,209
minimize risk exposure, and above all improved care outcomes. A potential solution

2536
03:58:49,209 --> 03:58:54,045
under consideration is the addition of a dedicated registered nurse during peak booking

2537
03:58:54,045 --> 03:59:00,399
hours to support timely medical clearance and reinforce safety for both staff and

2538
03:59:00,399 --> 03:59:05,649
individuals in custody. These discussions reflect our shared commitment to continuous

2539
03:59:05,649 --> 03:59:10,529
improvement, implementation of best practices, and achieving better outcomes for

2540
03:59:10,529 --> 03:59:15,012
those in our care. We also want to recognize and thank our health service administrator,

2541
03:59:15,169 --> 03:59:19,729
Melissa Gibson and our regional director of operations, Dave Garzoli. They have been

2542
03:59:19,729 --> 03:59:25,089
an integral part of the team. In closing, I'm going to turn it back over to Jessica.

2543
03:59:26,129 --> 03:59:31,779
I get the fun one that may be on everybody's mind, but no secret some of the challenges

2544
03:59:31,779 --> 03:59:35,052
our organization has gone through in the past year regarding the bankruptcy, and

2545
03:59:35,052 --> 03:59:40,056
we know that's been a concern with the partners and what's going to happen at Wellpath.

2546
03:59:41,008 --> 03:59:44,064
Are we going to stick around or are we going to be out? So I do have some good news

2547
03:59:44,064 --> 03:59:51,064
to share on that front. I will say last November we filed for Chapter 11, which is

2548
03:59:51,064 --> 03:59:57,018
a reorganization. With that our operations remained the same. We didn't reduce any

2549
03:59:57,018 --> 04:00:02,459
footprints. We maintained our contracts with all of our partners and staffing levels.

2550
04:00:02,047 --> 04:00:06,075
Everything remained the same. We were having issues with payments to some of our

2551
04:00:06,075 --> 04:00:11,079
providers in the community. I think at this point most have been addressed through

2552
04:00:11,079 --> 04:00:16,087
the bankruptcy. Everybody's been paid up. If not, that is happening. Everybody is

2553
04:00:16,087 --> 04:00:22,629
getting paid. I will say on May 8th, here's the good news, we successfully completed

2554
04:00:22,629 --> 04:00:28,279
our financial restructuring processes and emerged from Chapter 11, so we are officially

2555
04:00:28,549 --> 04:00:35,009
out as of May 8th and no longer in bankruptcy. Um, through this process, uh, we've

2556
04:00:35,009 --> 04:00:39,859
strengthened our financial structure to support our business for the long term, which

2557
04:00:40,109 --> 04:00:45,189
that last year, we were not there. So it was something that was necessary in order

2558
04:00:45,189 --> 04:00:50,056
for us to continue to remain in business moving forward. Um, we continue to be committed

2559
04:00:50,056 --> 04:00:55,109
to the core values that define us, unwavering quality and patient care, stability,

2560
04:00:55,359 --> 04:01:00,169
relationships, and trust. Um, I will say we are better positioned than ever to be

2561
04:01:00,169 --> 04:01:07,006
a strong partner for years to come and a stable organization. We value our relationship

2562
04:01:07,006 --> 04:01:10,074
with you and are committed to continuing to innovate how we deliver correctional

2563
04:01:10,074 --> 04:01:15,022
medical and mental health care in Shasta County. Serving you and your patients remains

2564
04:01:15,022 --> 04:01:21,209
our top priority. As a financially stable and stronger company, you can expect Wellpath

2565
04:01:21,209 --> 04:01:25,066
to continue. Invest in the welfare of your patients. We're committed to support Shasta

2566
04:01:25,066 --> 04:01:30,093
County by developing solutions that improve overall service delivery, patient outcomes,

2567
04:01:31,259 --> 04:01:36,054
and the big one, reducing risk and lawsuits to ensure county dollars are maximized

2568
04:01:36,054 --> 04:01:41,014
when it comes to jail healthcare. Again, we thank you for allowing us the opportunity

2569
04:01:41,014 --> 04:01:48,129
on your very, very busy agenda today to be here, and we welcome any further discussions.

2570
04:01:48,819 --> 04:01:54,859
I know that data is a really important thing to see, and we are open to sharing and

2571
04:01:54,859 --> 04:02:01,058
would like to be more actively involved in those conversations with you all and transparent

2572
04:02:01,058 --> 04:02:06,018
with the county. I think this is the first time our organization has been to a board

2573
04:02:06,018 --> 04:02:11,033
of supervisors meeting to present. Um, and we hope that it's the first of many more

2574
04:02:11,033 --> 04:02:17,081
to come because we want you to know that we are open to being transparent, to answering

2575
04:02:17,081 --> 04:02:22,007
any questions, um, and anything you might need from us. So thank you again.

2576
04:02:24,089 --> 04:02:28,005
Absolutely. Does anybody have any questions? Uh, supervisor plumber.

2577
04:02:30,035 --> 04:02:35,149
My understanding is that the challenge that led to the bankruptcy had to do with

2578
04:02:35,149 --> 04:02:39,075
lawsuits which you alluded to, uh, one, I guess, is that correct? And, and if it

2579
04:02:39,075 --> 04:02:45,669
is, uh, you mentioned being on a stronger footing now, what, uh, you know, what structural

2580
04:02:45,669 --> 04:02:51,037
changes have been made that will, you know, protect against that risk in the future

2581
04:02:51,037 --> 04:02:57,379
or try to minimize that risk? That's a great question. Um. From

2582
04:02:58,075 --> 04:03:03,879
the the kind of downfall of where we ended up where we were, it actually was really

2583
04:03:03,879 --> 04:03:09,069
a lot of it had to do with the COVID-19 pandemic because we are a private organization

2584
04:03:09,569 --> 04:03:17,109
that was funded and ran through public equity firm. We were not given funding from

2585
04:03:17,109 --> 04:03:21,279
the federal government that many other folks were able to obtain and receive, so

2586
04:03:21,279 --> 04:03:26,066
we were taking that out of hide for a long time, so COVID was a big one. Um, in addition

2587
04:03:26,066 --> 04:03:32,006
to inflation and then just the labor market in general, um, it wasn't sufficient

2588
04:03:32,006 --> 04:03:39,029
enough for us in our contracts, um, so those were the real three main reasons why

2589
04:03:39,029 --> 04:03:44,759
we ended up where we were. And then in terms of addressing that, is that, it sounds

2590
04:03:44,759 --> 04:03:49,279
like you know those drove up your costs and so does that mean that you are asking,

2591
04:03:49,037 --> 04:03:52,629
you know, I mean the natural thought in my head is that that means that then you

2592
04:03:52,064 --> 04:03:57,049
you need more money in terms of the contract with the county, am I? Connecting the

2593
04:03:57,049 --> 04:04:03,004
dots there. You, you are, sir. Yes, you are. Um, one of the things that we're trying

2594
04:04:03,004 --> 04:04:07,029
to do is be more innovative and how we look at correctional healthcare. I know it's

2595
04:04:07,029 --> 04:04:13,037
hard to replace people with technology, um, but we do telehealth as well. We're looking

2596
04:04:13,037 --> 04:04:19,081
at ways to cut costs, but not, not cut costs of what we're paying staff. That is

2597
04:04:19,081 --> 04:04:24,649
something we will never do because we see that with many other companies that do

2598
04:04:24,649 --> 04:04:29,169
that. And then you get a contract and you can't staff it. So we look at the labor

2599
04:04:29,169 --> 04:04:36,025
market, we look at your specific labor market, and we fall in line with that. I would

2600
04:04:36,025 --> 04:04:42,089
say that we have gone to counties and we've talked about these costs increase. We're

2601
04:04:42,089 --> 04:04:47,529
trying to keep it as reasonable as we can as we can and also try and find different

2602
04:04:47,529 --> 04:04:54,109
solutions and not go above and beyond where we need to be, but You know, try to keep

2603
04:04:54,109 --> 04:04:59,589
it to contain the cost for you all. I would say that's not so much related to the

2604
04:04:59,589 --> 04:05:04,709
bankruptcy though, it's just the wage inflation in general, especially in uh medical

2605
04:05:04,709 --> 04:05:11,529
services that would drive those conversations. And then are you all involved in the

2606
04:05:11,529 --> 04:05:18,669
conversations around um the Cal aim justice involved initiative with where inmates

2607
04:05:18,669 --> 04:05:21,074
can re-enroll in Meal 90 days pre-release?

2608
04:05:25,022 --> 04:05:31,025
Yes, um, we have went live with Cal Aim in a couple of our counties already. Um,

2609
04:05:31,259 --> 04:05:35,022
we have been working actively with the consultants if, if the counties have went

2610
04:05:35,022 --> 04:05:43,000
through consultants. Such as what HMA I I will say I was part of the earlier conversations

2611
04:05:43,062 --> 04:05:49,072
um with the sheriff's office and HMA a bit. um, we have made ourselves available

2612
04:05:49,072 --> 04:05:54,569
if the consultants of the county um that are handling counting, we, we are equipped,

2613
04:05:54,068 --> 04:05:59,919
we're ready, whatever you guys need. We're trying to not say, well, the medical contract

2614
04:05:59,919 --> 04:06:04,979
needs. A ton of staff, but what can we do within the current staffing that we have

2615
04:06:04,979 --> 04:06:10,085
with discharge planning and try and maximize what the foundational contract has to

2616
04:06:11,001 --> 04:06:16,001
maximize those dollars for accounting. But we are very involved as Velvet said, we

2617
04:06:16,001 --> 04:06:20,062
do have some experience because we are in Yuba County and that was one of the first

2618
04:06:20,062 --> 04:06:25,085
counties that went live so. We're learning all of the tweaks, so when it gets to

2619
04:06:25,085 --> 04:06:31,025
you guys, um, we'll have some probably invaluable experience as as the provider with

2620
04:06:31,025 --> 04:06:36,024
case notes required. I think we're having a pretty good success rate with the claims

2621
04:06:36,024 --> 04:06:40,025
that have been submitted to the federal government. We were actually pretty surprised

2622
04:06:40,025 --> 04:06:44,008
thinking that. So many of them would be kicked back and I don't know if you know

2623
04:06:44,008 --> 04:06:50,359
the percentage. I think it was 60% were approved, so there were 40 that that 40%

2624
04:06:50,359 --> 04:06:55,027
that needed minor tweaks though with the case notes that I think we cleared up and

2625
04:06:55,027 --> 04:07:01,419
we're able to get a good good success rate on turnaround on invoicing. Thank you.

2626
04:07:01,091 --> 04:07:05,093
Welcome. Thank you, Supervisoraltro. Yeah, um, you guys used to be in our juvenile

2627
04:07:05,093 --> 04:07:10,169
hall here in Chessa, Ninja, and then you no longer are now. That's correct. OK. All

2628
04:07:10,169 --> 04:07:12,081
right. And who did they use out of curiosity? I mean, I'm sure you don't want to

2629
04:07:12,081 --> 04:07:20,035
say competition's name, but Right. I'm Juvenile Hall uses Community

2630
04:07:20,035 --> 04:07:27,056
Health Center. OK. All right. Thank you. Harman. So can I assume by all by all them

2631
04:07:27,089 --> 04:07:31,093
officers sitting behind you that they're supportive of you? That's what I'm sorry.

2632
04:07:32,008 --> 04:07:39,819
They're supporting you. I would say so, yeah. I hope so. He's he's

2633
04:07:39,819 --> 04:07:47,649
typing about it right now. No, that I, I appreciate. That you didn't go chapter 13

2634
04:07:48,001 --> 04:07:53,074
as a businessman, that's, that 13 is the easy way to go and you guys did 11 and I

2635
04:07:53,074 --> 04:08:00,669
commend you for that. Took took care of your obligations and kept going and and uh

2636
04:08:00,669 --> 04:08:04,799
and you should be commended for that. Thank you. Thank you sir. Well, I'm, I'm glad

2637
04:08:04,799 --> 04:08:11,859
Sheriff Johnson um talked about bringing you guys up, glad he did. I know, um. Healthcare

2638
04:08:11,859 --> 04:08:17,081
doesn't matter if it's uh citizenry of any type, those incarcerated, etc. it's very,

2639
04:08:17,899 --> 04:08:21,939
very crucial and very important I think to have those conversations. So I appreciate

2640
04:08:21,939 --> 04:08:26,018
this first effort in coming and sure we'll be in touch in the future. So thank you.

2641
04:08:27,069 --> 04:08:32,229
Can I add one more thing? Supervisor plumber. Um, I do think in to speak to your

2642
04:08:32,229 --> 04:08:36,091
comment about transparency and data, I think it would be interesting to see some

2643
04:08:36,091 --> 04:08:41,549
data at a future date around uh cost per inmate in terms of healthcare costs and

2644
04:08:41,549 --> 04:08:46,709
what are the key drivers of those costs in terms of different conditions and ailments,

2645
04:08:46,072 --> 04:08:53,064
uh. And also in particular um we heard earlier about um opioid use disorder and how

2646
04:08:53,064 --> 04:08:57,959
with our medical population that is a really significant portion in the primary diagnosis

2647
04:08:58,025 --> 04:09:03,029
and so understanding a bit more of your treatment protocol for that and uh what the

2648
04:09:03,029 --> 04:09:08,089
costs are associated with that so um that would be really helpful to hear in the

2649
04:09:08,089 --> 04:09:12,529
future, I think you. Absolutely, thank you. Thank you. Thank you as a plumber. All

2650
04:09:12,529 --> 04:09:14,095
right. Thank you. Thank you for your guys' time.

2651
04:09:17,041 --> 04:09:23,359
All right, moving on to R9. This is a presentation sponsored by Supervisor Plumber.

2652
04:09:24,031 --> 04:09:28,074
From the Shasta Substances Coalition regarding opioid overdose deaths in the county.

2653
04:09:29,035 --> 04:09:31,058
Hello, Ms. Phillips. How are you doing?

2654
04:09:33,529 --> 04:09:37,859
I'm doing great, thank you so much. I have a PowerPoint, so it's right there.

2655
04:09:42,037 --> 04:09:43,041
I always get nervous.

2656
04:09:45,068 --> 04:09:45,799
Stewart. Right there. Great. OK.

2657
04:09:54,259 --> 04:10:00,007
Well, good afternoon, um, Chairman Cry supervisors. I really appreciate the opportunity

2658
04:10:00,007 --> 04:10:07,005
to come before you again. Um, my name is Jill Phillips, and I am, uh, the facilitator

2659
04:10:07,005 --> 04:10:13,054
for the Shasta Substance use Coalition. Um, Let me see this here.

2660
04:10:16,002 --> 04:10:16,029
Hey.

2661
04:10:21,129 --> 04:10:27,299
Can you help me here a little bit here this? I'm sorry. Just the arrows, right, yeah.

2662
04:10:29,054 --> 04:10:30,025
There we go.

2663
04:10:32,149 --> 04:10:38,229
OK. that one that one should be the next one. OK, so I'm sort of couching this as

2664
04:10:38,229 --> 04:10:44,004
a progress report and a good news report too. So, um, uh, the SASA Substance use

2665
04:10:44,004 --> 04:10:50,039
Coalition is comprised of three primary uh committees on the screen you see there.

2666
04:10:51,037 --> 04:10:59,006
We have over 35 participating organizations. I think last year it was 25. Um, I

2667
04:11:00,035 --> 04:11:04,079
wanna give a shout out to our community volunteers and a special shout out to our

2668
04:11:04,079 --> 04:11:08,669
community volunteers and the Health Alliance in Northern California that acts as

2669
04:11:08,669 --> 04:11:16,459
our fiscal agent. We have 4 main areas of our work plan. Um, today I'm gonna talk

2670
04:11:16,459 --> 04:11:22,149
to you about 2, primarily about 2 of those areas um related to overdose-related deaths

2671
04:11:22,149 --> 04:11:30,052
and also um improving access to treatment. So the good news is that in 2024,

2672
04:11:30,569 --> 04:11:38,066
we had a 43% reduction in overdose deaths due to fentanyl. And

2673
04:11:38,819 --> 04:11:45,002
um The first quarter looks like we're going to stay down, so the numbers are too

2674
04:11:45,062 --> 04:11:51,899
small, the first quarter to be able to report. So uh we're, we think that we're still

2675
04:11:51,899 --> 04:11:54,066
going on a good trajectory as far as overdose deaths.

2676
04:11:56,439 --> 04:12:01,074
I'm gonna talk about some of those um activities that we think has made it have made

2677
04:12:01,074 --> 04:12:09,052
a difference um one is that we have formed the naloxone action team. And we work

2678
04:12:09,052 --> 04:12:17,008
together to coordinate our overdose, I mean our naloxone distribution. We have

2679
04:12:17,008 --> 04:12:24,035
delivered delivered at least 8100 boxes of naloxone that includes information

2680
04:12:24,959 --> 04:12:28,879
along with the naloxone so that people know where to get treatment and that sort

2681
04:12:28,879 --> 04:12:32,079
of thing. We have the little red bags I'm going to bring up here that we distribute.

2682
04:12:33,799 --> 04:12:41,399
We are tracking weekly or overdose data. We have a monthly, weekly report. We know

2683
04:12:41,399 --> 04:12:46,669
when we have spikes in overdoses, where they are, and then we go and address those.

2684
04:12:47,006 --> 04:12:53,439
One thing that I'm really excited about is that we now have over 100 business locations

2685
04:12:53,439 --> 04:13:00,629
throughout Chesa County, including many. uh, gas stations, etc. that um carry uh

2686
04:13:00,629 --> 04:13:06,629
naloxone and educational material and will provide it for free to people in the community

2687
04:13:06,629 --> 04:13:13,039
to come in and these are in even the most isolated areas. We've uh provided training

2688
04:13:13,039 --> 04:13:21,012
in naloxone to 22, soon to be 24, all 24 school districts. Talking a little bit about

2689
04:13:21,012 --> 04:13:27,689
the continuum of care for those with opioid use disorder, uh, we developed a survey

2690
04:13:27,689 --> 04:13:34,689
and we had 29 respondents. We gave the survey to those who are providing opioid treatment

2691
04:13:34,689 --> 04:13:41,729
services and recovery support. Anyone who's working with individuals who have opioid

2692
04:13:41,729 --> 04:13:48,459
use disorder. And you can see we've asked several questions, but uh this one question

2693
04:13:48,459 --> 04:13:54,779
was uh what are the missing or under available services and uh unsurprisingly, medical

2694
04:13:54,779 --> 04:14:01,089
detox uh came to the top. We also have um need for housing co-occurring treatment,

2695
04:14:02,014 --> 04:14:09,008
residential treatment, and so on. One of the things we've done is put together a

2696
04:14:09,008 --> 04:14:14,979
continuum, a diagram here so that we can see, you know, how we are working together,

2697
04:14:15,014 --> 04:14:22,014
what, where the routes of entry are, um. Where some of the gaps in services are,

2698
04:14:22,589 --> 04:14:28,006
we have known that we have needed more residential and intensive outpatient treatment,

2699
04:14:28,069 --> 04:14:34,399
and I'm happy to have learned recently that both Good News Rescue Mission and Visions

2700
04:14:34,399 --> 04:14:39,189
on the Cross have received funding from the state which will increase those services.

2701
04:14:39,979 --> 04:14:47,779
We're very, very anxious to see and support more services in the jail, um, and we

2702
04:14:47,779 --> 04:14:55,419
think that's a really important place for services to be provided and we're very

2703
04:14:55,419 --> 04:15:01,819
ready, willing and able to connect uh through the community connections so service

2704
04:15:01,819 --> 04:15:05,062
providers in the community are very interested in connecting with the jail so we

2705
04:15:05,062 --> 04:15:12,359
have smooth transitions. And uh we're very interested in seeing a medical detox crisis

2706
04:15:12,359 --> 04:15:17,085
stabilization that has yet to be funded, although I think the tribe is preparing

2707
04:15:17,085 --> 04:15:25,018
to do some of those services. Um, we've identified keys to successful treatment of

2708
04:15:25,018 --> 04:15:29,029
opioid use disorder, and I think these are really important to kind of keep in mind

2709
04:15:29,047 --> 04:15:34,058
as we all are working together between the prevention all the way through the treatment

2710
04:15:34,058 --> 04:15:40,022
and recovery, um, preventing overdose deaths, building relationships, increasing

2711
04:15:40,022 --> 04:15:45,459
opportunities for effective engagement. Removing any barriers, this is really one

2712
04:15:45,459 --> 04:15:49,077
of the areas that we're looking at. We want to reduce wait time for service access,

2713
04:15:50,007 --> 04:15:56,459
reducing withdrawal symptoms through the medical detox services, treating mental

2714
04:15:56,459 --> 04:16:01,419
health that's co-occurring with substance use disorder, and providing ongoing supportive

2715
04:16:01,419 --> 04:16:08,279
services for the needed level of care. Um, we're working to gather some data that

2716
04:16:08,279 --> 04:16:15,008
can really help us to identify the areas, the gap areas and those areas that we can

2717
04:16:15,008 --> 04:16:21,029
improve in. Um, here's some examples of some of the data that we're looking at. We

2718
04:16:21,029 --> 04:16:26,099
have received some data from partnership that is helping us to sort of see the picture

2719
04:16:26,099 --> 04:16:33,005
here, so you can see that in Bullet two, only half of those who were diagnosed with

2720
04:16:33,005 --> 04:16:39,859
opioid use disorder in 2024 received the medications required to effectively treat

2721
04:16:39,859 --> 04:16:46,091
that disorder. So those are areas that we'd like to get the numbers to improve. Um,

2722
04:16:47,012 --> 04:16:52,959
we see some, some pretty good changes in housing instability, um, improvements in

2723
04:16:52,959 --> 04:17:00,629
housing instability when there's treatment, and, um, we see that in general the the

2724
04:17:00,649 --> 04:17:07,319
the 10 day guidance for access to residential outpatient treatment was met 95% of

2725
04:17:07,319 --> 04:17:12,099
the time, but we think that that should be narrowed to a smaller amount of time.

2726
04:17:13,068 --> 04:17:21,058
And and so on, so. Next, we're looking at continuing to work and develop

2727
04:17:21,058 --> 04:17:27,629
and strengthen the treatment recovery continuum of care. We want to improve access

2728
04:17:27,629 --> 04:17:34,083
to naloxone and information for the highest risk populations, and we want to provide

2729
04:17:34,083 --> 04:17:38,091
data driven information to assist in decision making for whoever is making those

2730
04:17:38,091 --> 04:17:46,037
decisions, whether it's providers or policy makers, and we. Want

2731
04:17:46,037 --> 04:17:50,339
to establish progress goals and here's some examples from some areas that we're looking

2732
04:17:50,339 --> 04:17:56,012
at, uh, promote service development where needed and increase community information

2733
04:17:56,012 --> 04:17:57,072
and points of connection.

2734
04:18:01,009 --> 04:18:01,064
That's it.

2735
04:18:04,629 --> 04:18:08,099
To Plumber. Thank you Jill for being here and presenting on this. Um, the reason

2736
04:18:08,099 --> 04:18:13,109
I had asked you to share this is because, you know, a lot of times we're talking

2737
04:18:13,109 --> 04:18:18,109
about the challenges that our community faces and uh we don't always celebrate the

2738
04:18:18,109 --> 04:18:21,039
progress that we're making and so it's exciting to hear that overdose deaths has

2739
04:18:21,039 --> 04:18:28,029
gone down significantly, uh, uh, from 2023 to 2024 and then it seems to be, uh, you

2740
04:18:28,029 --> 04:18:33,006
know, staying there and it's, it's helpful to also learn from. The uh strategies

2741
04:18:33,006 --> 04:18:38,052
that you, you found to be effective there and see how we can both increase those

2742
04:18:38,052 --> 04:18:45,002
but also uh replicate them in other areas as well. So, thank you. Welcome. Thank

2743
04:18:45,002 --> 04:18:46,052
you, Joe. I appreciate it. Joe. Joe, Joe Campbell

2744
04:18:50,009 --> 04:18:54,054
uh sent us a uh email in between, so I remember reading that. So Joe's watching,

2745
04:18:54,649 --> 04:18:59,033
Joe, I read it and thank you. Thank you very much. Yes, thank you, Joe. All right,

2746
04:18:59,729 --> 04:19:00,359
moving on.

2747
04:19:02,419 --> 04:19:07,379
Is this gonna be OK. So we have a scheduled hearing. How many uh public commenters

2748
04:19:07,379 --> 04:19:13,629
do you have on this one? So for the hearing for our time we have no public uh commenters

2749
04:19:14,000 --> 04:19:14,064
hearing OK.

2750
04:19:16,149 --> 04:19:20,189
It's all correspondence on file with the clerk of the board. the hearing first, then

2751
04:19:20,189 --> 04:19:21,549
I guess to tell you, that's right.

2752
04:19:25,037 --> 04:19:26,045
I'll take them, sure.

2753
04:19:50,091 --> 04:19:50,099
The area to which we all think.

2754
04:19:54,008 --> 04:19:58,068
Welcome, sir. Um, good afternoon, Chair Cry, members of the board. Brandon Magby,

2755
04:19:58,072 --> 04:20:03,479
I'm the County Real Property and right agent. Um, That's it. Thank you for coming.

2756
04:20:04,047 --> 04:20:12,012
That was close. That was quick. Thank you. That's OK. So, uh, before you have

2757
04:20:12,012 --> 04:20:17,087
this afternoon is a proposed abandonment for a portion of Tamarack Avenue in, in

2758
04:20:17,087 --> 04:20:25,009
the Bernie area. Um, in front of you is an aerial aerial map of the southern portion

2759
04:20:25,009 --> 04:20:32,299
of Tamarack Avenue as it intersects Highway 299 East. Um, we just go to the next

2760
04:20:32,299 --> 04:20:40,031
one. So, If you see the red um hatched area, that is the previous

2761
04:20:40,031 --> 04:20:47,099
alignment of Tamarack Avenue prior to 2006. 2006, Caltrans are part of a

2762
04:20:47,099 --> 04:20:53,399
uh safety project. Acquired the necessary right away to realign Tamarack Avenue as

2763
04:20:53,399 --> 04:20:59,097
it intersects 299 at a 90 degree angle. With doing that, that provided better sight

2764
04:20:59,097 --> 04:21:05,689
distance for the traffic from Tamarack onto Highway 299 going both east and west

2765
04:21:05,689 --> 04:21:09,093
directions. As you can see previously it had a very obscure angle, especially for

2766
04:21:09,093 --> 04:21:16,209
the westbound traffic from Tamarack on the 299. Um, the tribe has recently, in the

2767
04:21:16,209 --> 04:21:23,089
last few years have purchased the property um there south of Tamarack Avenue and

2768
04:21:23,089 --> 04:21:27,799
the property there, that corner property on the north side of Tamarack Avenue. Um,

2769
04:21:27,093 --> 04:21:33,006
the tribe are the ones that asked for the abandonment, the, the.

2770
04:21:34,669 --> 04:21:42,014
The area is no longer used. There is, um, I have heard from utility companies that

2771
04:21:42,014 --> 04:21:48,099
PG&E does have facilities in that area. And I believe there is a waterline too. The

2772
04:21:48,099 --> 04:21:54,035
abandonment resolution does hold a reservation for those any existing utilities that

2773
04:21:54,035 --> 04:22:00,018
are in that easement area. Those utility companies will retain the right to maintain

2774
04:22:00,018 --> 04:22:07,689
and keep those utilities in place, so that. I know the reason why the

2775
04:22:07,689 --> 04:22:13,004
tribe has asked for this to be abandoned is they're in the process of trying to move

2776
04:22:13,004 --> 04:22:17,089
the property into their trust, and this is an encumbrance on the property that is

2777
04:22:17,089 --> 04:22:24,859
currently prohibiting that moving the property into their trust. Um, that is my

2778
04:22:24,859 --> 04:22:30,049
presentation for today. I will note that the chairman for the tribe, um, is in the

2779
04:22:30,049 --> 04:22:34,007
is in the audience if you have any questions, um, as well, but if you have any questions

2780
04:22:34,007 --> 04:22:40,002
for me, I'm available. This is that little section that, um, it kind of comes around

2781
04:22:40,002 --> 04:22:43,709
the gas station, right and goes back to. And I'm that's how the road currently goes,

2782
04:22:43,759 --> 04:22:47,089
and this is the old one that used to go, yes sir, so you can see on this slide you

2783
04:22:47,089 --> 04:22:52,729
can see where the gas station is further up, uh, there at the intersection of park

2784
04:22:52,729 --> 04:22:56,319
in Tamarack, and then the casinos on the other side. Yes sir, that's correct. So

2785
04:22:56,319 --> 04:23:03,439
this is down by by Tamaracks uh by 299. And here's a, here's a photo photo of showing

2786
04:23:03,879 --> 04:23:10,018
where it currently is lined and the previous alignment that the payment's been removed

2787
04:23:10,018 --> 04:23:14,439
and it's been returned to be a good place for a casino sign, I would guess. They

2788
04:23:14,439 --> 04:23:21,439
already have their casino sign there. So there is already a sign there, so, um, but

2789
04:23:21,439 --> 04:23:28,939
yes, sir. Super long. Oh, I wasn't, I wasn't, uh, in line. I just, I just saw you

2790
04:23:28,939 --> 04:23:33,939
had your head. OK. No, the only thing is, and I've spoken with you at length about

2791
04:23:33,939 --> 04:23:37,899
this, so I had, you answered all my questions, and one of the things that maybe you

2792
04:23:37,899 --> 04:23:43,049
could just bring out would be that there is no monetary worth to this property as

2793
04:23:43,006 --> 04:23:46,819
as you described it to me, so it's not an abandonment of something that we could

2794
04:23:46,819 --> 04:23:52,074
negotiate anything. Yes, sir. I mean for the use for the county was for uh public

2795
04:23:52,074 --> 04:23:57,056
road and public utilities. The public road is no longer there, so there is no need

2796
04:23:57,056 --> 04:24:02,072
for the county to retain the right in the future to build a road. There is we have

2797
04:24:02,072 --> 04:24:07,529
no plans and the current alignment is the best alignment for the public for the safety.

2798
04:24:08,000 --> 04:24:12,759
Thank you. You're welcome. But, but you're preserving the utility. Yes, sir. That

2799
04:24:12,759 --> 04:24:17,002
is correct. The utilities will will retain the right to use that area. If I remember

2800
04:24:17,002 --> 04:24:22,919
right, that's just kind of an odd size 17-inch water line, lot of pressure. You don't

2801
04:24:22,919 --> 04:24:27,099
want to hit it. The, the tribe is aware of it. I've spoken with their attorneys and

2802
04:24:27,099 --> 04:24:32,509
made them aware that there are existing facilities, and they, they are OK with the

2803
04:24:32,509 --> 04:24:37,149
reservation uh of the rights for the utility companies. We, we found it right in

2804
04:24:37,149 --> 04:24:41,439
front of the casino. You remember that? Yeah.

2805
04:24:44,549 --> 04:24:50,075
I gotta open the public, make a motion that we accept. Well, yeah, we have to open

2806
04:24:50,075 --> 04:24:55,109
the public hearing, but, but we can, we can, we can take that motion. I'll second

2807
04:24:55,109 --> 04:24:59,072
it, but let's now, we're gonna open the public hearing. Mr. Buttell, is there any

2808
04:24:59,072 --> 04:25:04,229
correspondence on file with the clerk of the board? Yes, chair, any and all correspondence

2809
04:25:04,229 --> 04:25:07,029
related to this, uh, scheduled hearing is on file with the clerk of the board and

2810
04:25:07,029 --> 04:25:10,549
available for inspection upon request. Great. Do we have any public commenters for

2811
04:25:10,549 --> 04:25:15,039
this item? We do not, chair. With that, we'll close the public hearing. We'll bring

2812
04:25:15,039 --> 04:25:20,029
it back. We have a first and a second. Is there any other board discussion? All those

2813
04:25:20,029 --> 04:25:26,399
in favor? I passes 50. Thank you, Brandon. You're up here for the next one too. OK,

2814
04:25:26,629 --> 04:25:27,589
go ahead, R 11.

2815
04:25:47,027 --> 04:25:51,091
Uh, chair crime, member of the board, Brandon Magby County Property and right of

2816
04:25:51,091 --> 04:25:59,049
agent, um, before you today on this abandonment, this abandon, um, here's

2817
04:25:59,091 --> 04:26:07,064
one of the sheets from uh track map out on Bear Mountain Road. If you Look at lots

2818
04:26:07,064 --> 04:26:12,079
9 and 10. I don't know if I can really zoom it in, but they have a shared, they have

2819
04:26:12,079 --> 04:26:20,058
a shared driveway at the lot line of 9 and 10, um. So the rest of

2820
04:26:20,058 --> 04:26:25,819
the access, the frontage along Bear Mountain Road per this track map, those access

2821
04:26:25,819 --> 04:26:29,066
rights were relinquished and dedicated to the public, relinquishing, so they only

2822
04:26:29,066 --> 04:26:36,299
had one area to access Bear Mountain Road. Um, so since then,

2823
04:26:37,035 --> 04:26:43,779
The current owner, when he purchased the property, the previous owner had put in

2824
04:26:43,779 --> 04:26:50,259
a secondary access that is technically an illegal encroachment, but the current owner

2825
04:26:50,259 --> 04:26:56,014
is in the process of obtaining a building permit to make improvements on his property

2826
04:26:56,014 --> 04:27:01,041
with building the shop there on this. Around the southeasterly corner of his property

2827
04:27:01,041 --> 04:27:07,819
there, and it's the one in the middle. I, oh no I can't show you. So

2828
04:27:09,689 --> 04:27:10,079
You probably asked

2829
04:27:12,229 --> 04:27:12,024
Hm.

2830
04:27:16,129 --> 04:27:22,027
OK. So this is the secondary access right here. You probably ask why can't he just

2831
04:27:22,027 --> 04:27:28,083
use his existing access and discontinue his driveway on down. To do that would cross

2832
04:27:28,083 --> 04:27:33,589
his leach field, so that's where his leach field is located on his property. So that's

2833
04:27:33,589 --> 04:27:39,006
really not a feasible access to continue on to the access of his new proposed shop

2834
04:27:39,006 --> 04:27:46,689
for his property. So the abandonment is to abandon the the relinquished access

2835
04:27:46,689 --> 04:27:53,016
rights for the existing uh secondary driveway on the property. This would allow him

2836
04:27:53,016 --> 04:27:59,029
to finalize his building permit um and and continue the improvements on his property

2837
04:27:59,029 --> 04:28:06,529
which would increase the property values. um, so that is my presentation if you have

2838
04:28:06,529 --> 04:28:12,081
any other questions. Supervisors, yeah, so they put that that property or the, the

2839
04:28:12,081 --> 04:28:17,779
road to the west of the house is the one they're currently using, but it's a secondary

2840
04:28:17,779 --> 04:28:23,029
access. They're using the, the shared driveway as their main access. The secondary

2841
04:28:23,029 --> 04:28:28,169
access will provide access to the southern portion of the property to allow the improvements

2842
04:28:28,169 --> 04:28:31,099
to be built. OK, and it's just the fact that they didn't have permission to put it

2843
04:28:31,099 --> 04:28:35,029
in there. They didn't have any. Yes sir, that's right. This came up during the building

2844
04:28:35,029 --> 04:28:40,359
permit process that they that they realized something that always does. It does.

2845
04:28:40,056 --> 04:28:43,859
Yes, sir, and, and talk and speaking with the property owner, this was something

2846
04:28:43,859 --> 04:28:48,093
that was in place prior to him buying the property, so he's just trying to correct

2847
04:28:48,093 --> 04:28:52,459
everything so he can move forward with his building permit. Well, I like to see people

2848
04:28:52,459 --> 04:28:55,459
move forward with their building projects, so, but it's not my district, so I won't

2849
04:28:55,459 --> 04:28:57,339
make a motion. Troy.

2850
04:29:01,359 --> 04:29:07,002
All right, we're gonna go ahead and open the public hearing. Mr. Britell. Yes, chair,

2851
04:29:07,319 --> 04:29:10,279
uh, any and all correspondence related to the scheduled hearing is on file with the

2852
04:29:10,279 --> 04:29:13,043
clerk of the board and available for inspection upon request. And with that, uh,

2853
04:29:13,439 --> 04:29:17,064
with your permission, we do have one public commenter, um, Mario Caligari. Great.

2854
04:29:22,359 --> 04:29:26,000
Hello, gentlemen. Um, I'd like to thank Brandon for his guidance through this. It

2855
04:29:26,000 --> 04:29:31,339
was crazy. Um, that I am the property owner. My name is Mario Caligari. It's the

2856
04:29:31,339 --> 04:29:35,066
one to the east there, and it was in, I, I didn't, I'm not here with a mea copa.

2857
04:29:35,074 --> 04:29:39,459
I didn't put it in. I always thought it was, um, a legal right away, and all the

2858
04:29:39,459 --> 04:29:43,779
rest of it. Um, one thing that I'd like some clarification from Brandon is the adjacent

2859
04:29:43,779 --> 04:29:47,041
property and, and I'm gonna tell you some of the uses for this right away is in addition

2860
04:29:47,041 --> 04:29:52,899
to what I'm looking for, uh, the property to, um, the east of it, I also own that

2861
04:29:52,899 --> 04:29:58,005
property. It has an easement, um, access easement. Are you? You said there were no

2862
04:29:58,005 --> 04:30:00,093
further ones in this subdivision. I believe that's

2863
04:30:03,589 --> 04:30:06,075
on this, OK, yeah, I just wanna talk. I just, I got property that doesn't have an

2864
04:30:06,075 --> 04:30:10,007
easement now. I'm gonna be back before you. Um, some of the uses for this, and I

2865
04:30:10,007 --> 04:30:14,229
think it's important for you to note, um, when there was a fire out there Bear Mountain,

2866
04:30:14,339 --> 04:30:19,979
um, the, uh, Cal Fire, uh, put a strike team on the property adjacent to me that

2867
04:30:19,979 --> 04:30:26,002
I own. The access through that access road as well. PG&E stacked a bunch of stuff

2868
04:30:26,002 --> 04:30:30,062
out there to replace on my property on the right hand side as well, and they used

2869
04:30:30,062 --> 04:30:35,083
it as well to access their stuff. But the real thing is, and I think another benefit

2870
04:30:35,083 --> 04:30:41,027
for this is I have a large pool, 22,000 gallons access for fire protection for if

2871
04:30:41,027 --> 04:30:45,087
they needed it. That would be where they would access my property to actually pull

2872
04:30:45,087 --> 04:30:50,109
the water from that line from my pool if they wanted to do that, and I've granted

2873
04:30:50,109 --> 04:30:56,109
them that when they were in the strike team. So just trying to be a good, good person

2874
04:30:56,109 --> 04:30:59,629
in the community and trying to get this thing all rectified and all done. So I thank

2875
04:30:59,629 --> 04:31:05,095
you for your time. Thank you. All right, with that, here, being our only public commenter

2876
04:31:05,095 --> 04:31:12,129
we'll close the public hearing. I'll make a motion to approve abandon. We have a

2877
04:31:12,129 --> 04:31:15,029
motion by Supervisor plumber to approve, seconded by Supervisor Kels from any other

2878
04:31:15,029 --> 04:31:22,074
board discussion. Seeing none, all those in favor, uh, passes 50. Thank you. Troy

2879
04:31:22,074 --> 04:31:26,709
never got in and out that fast. That's that's, that's fantastic.

2880
04:31:31,035 --> 04:31:31,091
That's right.

2881
04:31:33,189 --> 04:31:37,229
I, I stopped by his office was strictly to tell him thank you, and he almost closed

2882
04:31:37,229 --> 04:31:40,149
the door and locked it all. That's right. Before you can get in there. Yeah. That's

2883
04:31:40,149 --> 04:31:40,016
right.

2884
04:31:43,066 --> 04:31:49,058
All right. We're gonna temporarily adjourn as the Shasta County Board of Supervisors.

2885
04:31:50,149 --> 04:31:54,064
We are now going to reconvene as the Shasta County in-home Support Services Public

2886
04:31:54,064 --> 04:31:59,189
Authority Board. This board does not receive any extra compensation for this, so

2887
04:31:59,189 --> 04:32:05,379
we'll go ahead and call that meeting to order. Mr. Bell, do we have any public commenters

2888
04:32:05,379 --> 04:32:11,959
for this item? No, chair, we do not. OK. We have, uh, one item and we have two items

2889
04:32:11,959 --> 04:32:19,729
on consent, 1 and 2. I'll entertain a motion to approve. We have a motion Ellstrom,

2890
04:32:19,081 --> 04:32:27,008
seconded by Supervisor Long. All those in favor I passes 50. You're going to adjourn

2891
04:32:27,008 --> 04:32:32,609
the meeting as the in-home support services public authority, and we are now reconvening

2892
04:32:32,609 --> 04:32:34,075
as the Shas County Board of Supervisors. We will now

2893
04:32:36,209 --> 04:32:40,779
go to recess for that, and we will now convene as the Shasta County Water Agency,

2894
04:32:41,005 --> 04:32:45,033
calling that meeting to order. We did not receive any additional compensation for

2895
04:32:45,033 --> 04:32:50,629
this. Do we have any public commenters uh for the Shasta County Water Agency, Mr.

2896
04:32:50,064 --> 04:32:58,002
Bull? No, chair, we do not. OK. So we have, I think it's 2 or 3 on this one.

2897
04:32:58,819 --> 04:33:04,018
We have two items on consent. I'll make a motion that we approve. You have a second

2898
04:33:04,018 --> 04:33:10,939
by Supervisor Kelstrom. All those in favor. I passes 50. We are going to adjourn

2899
04:33:10,939 --> 04:33:15,045
as the Shasta County Water Agency, reconvening as the Shasta County Board of Supervisors.

2900
04:33:15,066 --> 04:33:21,298
CEO Rickert, is there anything on the agenda that we have not, uh. Made it to

2901
04:33:25,708 --> 04:33:28,829
or that I missed. But, why I'm asking you. I already asked the CEO. With that, this

2902
04:33:28,829 --> 04:33:29,468
meeting is adjourned.