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All right. Good morning. Welcome to the regular meeting of the shasta county board of
Supervisors. Today is tuesday, july 28th and the time is 9 a.m.

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all board members are present, along with ceo dave rickert and county council joe larmer.

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until our new public comment kiosks are operational,
Our full clerk of the board team will be assisting with meeting operations and helping

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members of the public register to speak. Joining me at the dais are miranda ingram is
Kristin gulling-smith,

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and in the foyer, stewart buettell is assisting members of the public with online
Registrations.

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with that, I'll turn the meeting over to miss angel. Thank you. Through the chair, I would like to remind everyone in attendance of the board
Room rules of order as outlined in administrative policy 1-11

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available on the clerk of the board website. These rules address signage,
Seating and conduct to ensure board business is conducted in an orderly manner and that

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everyone has an equal opportunity to observe and participate unless addressing the board.

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attendees shall remain seated in the chairs provided. Standing along the back wall is permitted as long as entrances and exits remain
Unobstructed.

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members of the media are requested to set up recording or other equipment in the
Designated area along the south windows.

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we appreciate everyone's cooperation in maintaining a professional and accessible
Environment.

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members of the public wishing to address the board must submit a request to speak through
The online public comment portal at comment.shastacounty.gov.

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registration opens at 8 a.m. On the day of the meeting and closes when public comment on
Each item begins.

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each speaker is given 2 minutes to speak. It's set for scheduled hearings. All regular calendar items and items pulled from consent for discussion will receive 20
Minutes of public comment per item.

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And the second half reserved for telephonic participants with any unused time from either

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calls from blocked, unknown or mismatched numbers cannot be identified.

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those callers may listen to the meeting but will not be called upon to speak.

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individuals wishing to comment on a consent calendar item are encouraged to register for
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open time and the specific consent calendar item. If an item is not pulled, only those registered for public comment period open time will
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if an item is pulled for discussion, only those registered for that item will be called
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we ask for your patience as staff continue to navigate the new public comment system
During our second live meeting.

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thank you for understanding as we work through the process together. I do have one
Announcement to make regarding item r.6.

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there was a minor misspelling in the first case name listed.

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the correct last name should be matemnotja. With that chair I'll turn things back over to
You.

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thank you, miss angel. And to the pastor listed on the agenda for the invocation is not
Able to make it today.

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so join us in his place as pastor james stark from palo cedro community church. But I'd ask that before we get to the invocation,
If we could all stand and have a moment of silence for the city manager that has passed.

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mr. Tarbox. He leaves behind his dedicated community service and his family,
And it's a great loss for this area.

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thank you. And pastor stark. You can all sit

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and bow your heads with me, and we're going to say a prayer. So I get 1 or 2 minutes. Is that what it is? I'm used to like 45 minutes,
So I'm not sure if I can,

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but I'll do my best. Alright. Let's pray. Heavenly father,
Almighty god, ruler of heaven and earth,

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whose eyes look and see all to and fro about the earth. We lift up the shasta county board of supervisors to your throne of grace.

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today we recognize, according to your infallible word,
That there is no authority except from you.

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and those that exist have been instituted by your divine decree.

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you have established civil government as your minister of good,
A shield against chaos, and an instrument of your common grace to restrain evil in our

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communities. Let these leaders, before you now know they've been called to this board
Specifically and with divine intention and expectations.

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our prayer today is that realization that these leaders deeply understand this holy wait.

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grant them the diligence to see their offices not as positions of personal privilege,
But as a sacred stewardship for which they will one day render an

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account to you. Fill their hearts with genuine,
Christ like compassion for every constituent.

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remind them that true leadership is rooted in sacrificial service,
Giving, loving, caring,

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mirroring our lord and savior who came not to be served but to serve.

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may they view the citizens they represent through your eyes of grace. Listening with humility, acting with fairness,
Working tirelessly for peace and resolution,

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and flourishing the well-being of the entire communities.

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father, we pray for your sovereign direction over every decision they face. Deliver them from worldly compromise. Political preferences,
Division and selfish ambition.

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wake them today and each day after with a profound awareness of spiritual.

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the spiritual hour that we presently live in.

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grant us board the wisdom beyond themselves to cast off the works of darkness and put on
The armor of light.

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let them not make provision for the flesh or human pride,
But instead clothe themselves daily with the character,

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truth, and righteousness of our lord jesus christ.

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may your holy spirit guide their deliberations so that they may lead quiet and peaceable
Lives in all godliness and honesty.

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let your law of love be the ultimate standard that fulfills all their civic duties.

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we ask that this board would be a beacon of justice and order,
Led by supervisors who honor you by loving with all their hearts and

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their neighbors in just due. And in the mighty name,
The matchless name above all names.

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jesus we pray. Amen. Please join me in the pledge of allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for
Which it stands.

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one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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all right. Thank you, pastor stark. And there's 2 pastor starks in the room today.

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all right, moving along. We'll go to r.1 receive an update from the county executive
Officer on county issues and consider action on specific legislation related to shasta

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county's legislative platform and receive supervisor reports on county wide issues.

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ceo rickert. Good morning, chairman kelstrom and members of the board of supervisors.

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dave rickert, county executive officer, reporting with an update on local issues.

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there was a water main break that broke last night at the breslauer mental health
Building.

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the city of redding is planning to repair this today. Health will have limited services. Please call for additional information.

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mental health will be closed, but economic economic mobility will be open for service.

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branch directors are communicating with their program managers,
So they are prepared to answer questions from staff and from the public.

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we will provide additional information as it becomes available. Moving on to other matters, we have the, in cooperation with the county,
The city of redding is officially ready to welcome over 7000

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visitors and 1600 athletes for the inaugural ironman competition on sunday,
August 16th.

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this should generate between 10 to $12 million in local economic activity,
And we look forward to the event and please be ready for

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some traffic delays related to this event as this program moves forward with news from
Sacramento.

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a regulatory loophole has caused a cost of employing gold herding teams that provide fire
Safety prevention efforts to increase,

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the cost will go from approximately $4,800 a month to pay individual goat herders to
$240,000 annually.

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this with additional legally mandated expenses like housing,
Food visas, international airfare included,

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for a total of round package to exceed a quarter million dollars a year. We're hoping that sacramento could look at this issue,
Close that loophole, and provide the fire safety we need for shasta county.

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this concludes my report. Thank you, ceo rickert supervisor plummer.

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good morning everyone. Thank you chair. Kelstrom. So a few items. 3 main items that I wanted to share with you all as an update and look for
Board support and bringing back for additional

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conversation and discussion. The first is that we've talked,
You know, a bit about the need for grant making support to

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help write grants as we look to get additional resources on board,
Particularly in places where we might not have the ongoing recurring revenue to be

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able to fund those. And so a couple months ago now,
A group reached out called california consulting,

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and they work with cities and counties all across the state,
And they provide grant writing support in two ways.

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the first way is that they actually look for grants that might be a good fit for things
That you're already trying to do.

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and the second way is that then they would actually,
If the county wanted to, to help the county write those.

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and so we've had some initial conversations,
Myself, ceo rickert, and the way it works is you can enter into a contract with them,

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pay nothing. They will look for grants for us. If we say we want a grant that can help with a general plan update,
For example, they'll look for those grants and if they they'll identify grants and all

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that will cost us $0. It's only if we ask them to actually write the grant,
Does it cost us something.

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and so this seems like a great way to help us identify additional grants that could be a
Good fit for us.

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and then where necessary, when we you know, when our county staff don't have the capacity
To write a grant that we think would be good to pursue,

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we can always contract with them. As one example,
They've worked with the city of vallejo on a number of projects,

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and they've brought in close to $20 million to that city at a cost to the city of 85,000.

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and so huge return on investment there. 1 of the grants that actually we've been talking
About whether we could apply for us called the model cities initiative.

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it's a $300 million from the federal government for preventing crime and innovative
Approaches to that.

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unfortunately, it looks like we're going to be too close because the deadline is september
1st to apply.

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in order to bring this back, get them on board. But that's the type of thing that if we had had them on board,
You know, a couple of months ago, we could have, you know,

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applied for that. And that could have been a big piece of funding our new corrections and
Rehabilitation campus if we got it.

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so with that, I will make a motion that we bring back this contract,
Which again, $0 committed contract on august

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11th for board consideration with california consulting.

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does anybody want to second that? I'll second for the purpose of discussion.

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okay, so we're going to bring this back on the 11th for discussion then.

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yes. And for for a vote on the contract, whether to approve the contract or not.

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okay. All right. All those in favor. Aye. Any opposed passes 5 0.

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thank you. Supervisor plummer. Supervisor

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yes. I'll go quickly through it. The the second thing is,
You know, we have worked extensively over the last few years on

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substance use prevention. Supervisor crye has,
You know, advanced a big initiative around you know,

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working with youth to prevent that. We've done a number of other things. One of the things that I was seeing that actually maybe surprisingly san francisco is
Doing is that they've implemented a recovery first policy

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that basically says that all programs that work with those with substance use disorder
Need to be have the primary goal of remission and recovery.

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and so I think that that would be something good for us to consider.

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and just specifically, I'll read the the line here,
Which is long term remission of substance use disorders for individuals with the help of

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fully supported and staffed evidence based recovery and behavioral health services shall
Be the primary goal of the county substance use disorder treatment.

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and so I would like to bring back for discussion a a recovery first policy that

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it basically declares that's our goal. And any program that is not consistent with that
Would have to be approved by the board.

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so I'll make a motion to bring back a recovery first policy that states that the goal of
Our substance use treatment programs have the goal of remission and recovery,

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and any program that does not have that goal would come before the board.

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that san francisco is more of harm reduction. So, you know, kind of enabling safety in use of,
Of drugs versus trying to get them off of drugs.

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I'm not sure if I would like to follow san francisco's lead on anything,
But that's just my personal opinion.

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this is so they've seen a 27% reduction in the first half of this year in overdoses.

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as a result, we're moving into discussion on this item. We just need to vote whether you want to bring it back. Okay.

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so we're going to just to bring it back for discussion. Okay. Not entering a contract or no, no, this would just be a policy that the county would
Consider approving or not.

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and would you be presenting on that so that we would have an informed opinion?

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yes. That would whether it's me or yes staff,
I'd work with staff to bring back a draft of that that we could review and discuss.

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okay. I'll second. All right. We have a motion supervisor plummer.

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seconded by supervisor long. I guess I'm open for discussion. So, all those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Passes 5-0.

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thank you. Yes. You have 1 more? I do, but I'll go ahead and take it.

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I'll be, I'll be, I'll be quick. Okay. Well,
The last one is so I've been able to participate in pg&e.

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roundtable discussion. And part of that was visiting diablo canyon,
Which is the only nuclear active nuclear facility in,

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in california. It provides 9% of the state's total power.

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and right now they are awaiting. So they just got renewal 20 or 25 years from the federal
Government to continue operating.

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but they need the state legislature to approve them,
To continue to operate in order to.

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and so they have a coalition of sorts of diablo canyon 2045,
Which would basically just advocate to keep it open until

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2045. The reason I think this is important for shasta county is if we,
If they take that off.

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if the state decides to take that offline, the state loses 9% of its total power,
Which means that we'll likely see rates go up or there will be shortages

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in kind of the pg&e. Full network, because they'll be scrambling to try to backfill what
Is almost 10%.

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so I would make a motion that we bring back to direct staff to join the diablo canyon 2045
And advocate for keeping that nuclear

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facility open. I'll second, if that's a consent item,
We don't need to discuss that.

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right. That's fine with me. All right. We got a motion made by supervisor plummer,
Seconded by supervisor crye.

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all those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Passes 5-0. Thank you. Supervisor crye. All right. I met with shawna stratton,
Who I believe is with the substance use coalition,

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about some other items to consider in terms of opioid dollars and prevention.

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that goes along with what supervisor plummer just talked about. This board and the prior
Board really looked at prevention as one really effective use

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of those funds. I've had quite a few conversations around flock cameras.

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I've made my position pretty much known on those already. I think there's a lot of positives that come from those.

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I've had long discussions with the sheriffs about it. I still feel like that's not the best direction to go.

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sometimes, because you can do something doesn't mean you necessarily should. So I'll leave
It at that.

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I had a couple meetings with mr. Tarbox, and I know that he was pushing hard,
And I debated if I was going to talk about this now or after this

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friday, but august 18th is a big a big date or it was a big date.

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and that was when the circle 6 wouldn't call it an investigation.

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I would call it just the consulting firm that came in.

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and the information contained in that. I really do hope the city of redding and the
Interim city manager,

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michael webb, brings that to the public and makes that public on august 18th,
Because I was privy to know quite a bit about some of the findings from circle

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06, and I hope that becomes very public. If it doesn't,
I will be one of the loudest people about that because if we don't bring that to light,

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which is the majority of district 1 pretty much the entirety of district 1 and of course
Parts of some of the other districts other than 5.

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but that information needs to be public in a very public way.

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and I met with quite a few families as it relates to this adoption item today.

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this is something I've worked on for quite a while,
And I look forward to the item coming up.

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I know miss lane is going to have a great presentation,
And we'll probably have some speakers.

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and with that chair, I'll give the rest of my time to thank you. Supervisor crye. Supervisor harmon. Good morning.

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thank you. I'm going to let you talk about lafco.

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I'll give that one to you. Okay. Thanks. And then and then I'm going to let you talk about
The the graduation,

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your evaluation or edc. Aop no, the at the park humane society.

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and one of them that I would like to do a little shout out for rebecca bauer.

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the economic development had a little luncheon,
And I wanted to give her a shout out because she's a great.

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she did a great job of speaking. Something, I don't know,
Something I don't like to do.

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so I always appreciate somebody that does a good job at it. She does. She's doing a good job at her job and she does a good job presenting.

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and thank you, rebecca, for what you're doing with the economic development department.

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and then I'm going to talk about wolves and I see mary and jim in the room,
And I understand that you've you've been having some problems too.

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and there's, there's just a list. There's a list of names,
Ranchers that are having problems.

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and I, I haven't confirmed this, but a wolf sighting on dry creek yesterday.

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I'm trying to get that confirmed right now, but I haven't got that confirmed,
So I want to say too much about it,

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but it doesn't doesn't surprise me. And people I've heard people say,
You know, all he wants to do is talk about wolves.

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well, that might be true because it's one of the biggest,
Most impactive things we got going in shasta county right now is,

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is what's happening to our ranchers. We're, you know,
We're all home.

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doing our normal things, sleeping at night. And some of these ranchers are having to
Patrol their herds.

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and they're trying to keep up with the radio collared wolf reports,
Which are sometimes they're at least 24 hours behind,

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and sometimes they're 2 or 3 days behind. Sometimes they're working,
Sometimes they're not.

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but they're, they're supposed to be letting the ranchers know that they've got you know,
A pack of wolves

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on their properties in the, you know, northeast quadrant or whatever so that they can do
Some kind of a hazing,

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which is a big subject because they're not allowed to really do much as far as hazing
Goes.

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the fish and game has a little more latitude. They can use rubber bullets. We're not allowed to use rubber bullets.

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I think that would be a little more effective than letting fish and game have them,
Because they're there.

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by the time they show up, the wolves are gone or already done the damage. But anyway, we'll we'll we'll keep on top of the,
Of the wolves thing.

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I'm going to I'm going to say it again. I'm going to keep saying it. The wolves are being used by the government. And it's being used in a way that the spotted
Owl was used to wreck the lumber

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timber logging industry. What they what they what they don't want is.

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they don't want these ranchers grazing on the on the public lands where they have grazing
Rights and.

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and a good way for them to, to run them off is do what they're doing with the wolves and
We'll keep talking about it,

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but thank you. Thank you. Supervisor harmon. Supervisor long thank you chair.

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welcome, everyone. I attended a board meeting for the old shasta,
Which is an independent district fire district.

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and questions came up from that meeting. And so I wanted to update you on some of the
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that I've since researched. So in the car fire footprint,
Fema promised money to

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shasta county for car fire footprint victims.

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and it would have to do with fuels mitigations and some of the reductions in those kinds
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that money is promised to shasta county from fema and the way this works.

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and they've fema has promised about 1.4 billion to california,
But that obviously would not all go to shasta county.

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it's for la fires and a lot of different things that have been occurred.

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and so $40 million would be a shasta county impact.

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and of that, 40 cal fire has already raised 25 million or 25%,
Which is 10 million.

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so it's 30 million from fema and 10 million. So,
So my, my questions were what's the status of that?

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because that largely affects or entirely affects district 2,
Which is the calfire footprint.

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well, I guess a little bit of district one, but so I tried to figure that out and that has
Been kind of stalled at this

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point. We can't spend the 10 million that cal fire has raised,
Because then that would put us in violation if fema ever does award this.

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and so I had been trying to figure out how we could be declined if that was the ultimate
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be declined by fema, and then we would go to cal oes,
Because I heard there were some matching funds there.

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so haven't gotten to the bottom of it yet because we have not gotten a declination letter,

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but it's just been stalled out. And this has been something that I've been interested in.

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before I even took office meeting with vestra who used to be the administrator and now
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so stand by with that. We'll, we'll get some updates. I'm hoping to have an actual declination, declination from fema,
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going to be so that we can pursue other funds to. And we would be free to spend some of the matching funds.

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so looked into all that. That's that's a quick update there.

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I attended a quirky supervisor harmon and I attended a economic development corporation
Luncheon.

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I have interest in, in jobs in this community and high paying jobs and some of those kinds
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and it was, it was a great great meeting. And one of the things that really caught my
Attention were something called opportunity zones.

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and basically the way this works is it's fed,
Designated, and they get a fed tax break on a capital gains in property.

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if they invest the proceeds in directly into these opportunity zones.

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and these are mostly rural zones and economically disadvantaged zones.

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and so there's tremendous opportunity. And for whatever reason,
Things like stillwater business park have gotten included in some of these zones.

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that application was completed. It was kind of right,
Right under the wire.

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and so the county has completed that. Stewart buettell finally got that in and or got that
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and so that's that's great news. And I look forward to working going forward with
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to. And we went through a bunch of different businesses that were covered on these
Opportunity zones and where they fall.

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and it kind of covered most of the districts in our county. There was bernie district 3, there's district f5.

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district 4. Not much in the way of district 1 and 2,
Which is my district, but it was, it was interesting.

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so supervisor harmon and I attended camp lava pet and got to go through the ceremonies
There with all the graduating

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teams and basically 2 campers team up with a dog.

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and it's it's great because a lot of the dogs have already been adopted and they've worked
With them for weeks trying to get them

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trained on basic skills. And hopefully people consider adopting some of these animals.

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and I think that's a great, great service to our community.

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let's see. I think that's it. That's, that's it for mine.

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thank you. Supervisor long. And I believe supervisor harmon,
You may have forgotten something. Yeah,

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I've got a list over here. But then I didn't put this on that list. I had a piece of paper sitting here, but in the same subject,
The opportunity zones.

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stewart buettell, are you still in the room? Stewart. He's he's been working on this and he's already submitted like we were talking.

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oh, there he is in the back of the room. Sorry. I didn't mean to call you out when you weren't here,
But you're listening. Stewart's done a great job of getting this program entered in the

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the 2.0 opportunity zone for bernie. It's retroactive to the local authority

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recommended forms and submitted at a meeting in august.

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so I'm making a motion to put this on the august agenda.

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second. Got a motion made by supervisor harmon. Seconded by supervisor crye. All those in favor?

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aye. Supervisor. Plummer. Supervisor. Plummer. I thought I heard it from kevin. Okay. Supervisor plummer made the second. All those in
Favor? Aye.

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aye. Passes 5-0. Thank you, thank you. Supervisor. Harmon. All right. I'll make mine short and sweet on the 15th.

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I had hot dogs with anderson cops and the anderson anderson city council was there.

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the anderson manager. It was at the fairly new storefront down in anderson called
Blackburn's.

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and if you haven't been there, it's a really cool place. It's the old bank of america
Building is totally refurbished.

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it. He's got some golf simulators in there, several kinds of beer on tap,
And he sells his clothing there.

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so it's a pretty, pretty good business there in anderson. And while I was there that day,
I also went to had an enterprise anderson groundwater sustainability agency meeting and

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followed shortly thereafter at the city council chambers with the lafco executive meeting.

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so on the 16th, I did attend the zoom meeting with supervisor plummer and the usda.

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thank you. Supervisor. Plummer. And on the 17th I attended a addicted offenders program
Graduation with judge flynn.

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and if you guys anybody ever gets a chance to go to one,
I highly recommend it.

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they take some individuals that instead of sending them to jail or prison,
They go through this program.

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it's a very difficult program to, to get through. But we had, I think 4 graduates. So and they tell their story and they started out by
Showing their booking photo,

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which is usually pretty interesting. Then on the 18th,
The amcd the shingletown volunteer fire department open house up in shingletown.

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it was a good time. We did a whole bunch of great things up there. They had stuff for the kids and did cpr on on the dummies and everything else.

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it was pretty neat. And so then the 22nd, I met with trish clark and anderson fire chief
Lowe about some issues that they're having in anderson or concerns that they had.

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and then I met with ceo rickert and a county council on the 23rd,
And then again with ceo rickert and the interim resource manager on the 24th.

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and that concludes my report. All right. Moving on r.2.

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we are going to receive a presentation from sandra hamilton,
Dean of student services, and jerry beckman,

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director of career services at shasta harmon trinity joint community college district,
Regarding the shasta education program unified partnership,

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which is the step up program, my favorite program. So welcome. Thank you very much. Thank you. Chair kelstrom and supervisors.

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we're glad to bring our first report to you. We do have a powerpoint if you're good.

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thank you. Able to bring that up. Also, thank you,
Supervisor plummer for meeting with us and giving us some guidance on the information

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you'd like. If I jump to the last page, it says,
Tell us more of what you want to see.

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we will come at the end of every semester to provide information to you.

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and so as we go forward, we may have new data points that you want to see.

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and we are always open to hearing from you. This is your money on behalf of the citizens,
And we'd like to be able to meet those needs.

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the first slide shows some of the outcomes academically for our students who are in the
Step up program.

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we were able to have 15 students supported. As you remember,
We got to the contract pretty late this semester,

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and so many of the financial needs for these students had already been met. But we spent $12,000 on direct aid for books or laptops or materials that they needed for
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an average of $825 per student and what you've allotted in the grant was $2,000 per
Student for up to 25 students a semester.

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3 of those students completed their certificates or degrees,
So we were able to help them get through the finish line,

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as we say. And interestingly, 2, of them were in their very first semester at shasta
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so we're looking forward to helping them get a strong foundational start and continue in
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in terms of why we're looking for financial support,
You can see that nearly 100% of these students are considered low income by financial aid

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standards. The expectation the cost of attendance is $34,000 at shasta college.

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and so students can receive aid up to that amount,
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you can see the 60% of these students still had unmet need exceeding $10,000.

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and so there's still plenty more room for us to raise money to support those students. We also wanted to provide some of the academic outcomes,
So we compared it to shasta college students overall to step up students.

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and then the light green bar are the opioid students. You can see they attempted a 53% attempted 12 or more units,
And 47% were able to earn 12 units.

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as you can see, that's far exceeding the general population,
Where 31% attempted and only 21% earned 12 or more units.

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any questions about any of that data before we turn it over to jenny? And then we'll talk a little bit about the students who were enrolled in internships
Through our addiction study program. Okay.

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I don't see anybody in queue, so. Hi. Thank you.

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change the slide. So we did get these funds rather late. So a lot of the students did complete the semester by the time they received the payments.

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but the benefits of the payments were clear. And the data that we got,
73% of the students said that it helped the students stay enrolled in the program,

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anticipating that payment. A total of 373 students have enrolled in our addiction studies
Program.

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it's a relatively new program, so this first cohort of students completing their practicum
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it was the first group. The remaining unmet need after the stipend received was over
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so these students still have a little bit of need. 100% of the students reported a better
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I mean, that's pretty obvious after completing this practicum that they were working at
These sites 38,000 of those funds were spent to these students with

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an average of a little over 3000 per student. And I just wanted to really point out that the roi is more than just funding these
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that this is higher retention, this is workforce readiness,
Reduced financial hardship, and a stronger regional workforce capacity.

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this is a little bit of the qualitative data of the students,
How that financial impacted them and their own words.

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I won't go over all of these, but if you just take a look,
A lot of them were able to work in the internship without having to work in additional

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employment, which is really important because these students are going to school full
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so working a full time job on top of completing this practicum is a big hardship for them.

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so getting the paid stipend is truly beneficial.

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another student actually, because the funds came so late,
She's continuing the hours, but she actually became homeless in the time it just,

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we didn't get the funds to them in time. And she had to quit her other job to complete
These hours.

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these are the, the sites that we have students placed in.

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multiple, multiple sites have more than one student,
A total of 2358 hours were spent at these

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sites and $18,000 went out to these sites. We have been providing a $1,500 stipend to each
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because there are a lot of administrative costs that go to hosting these interns,
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as of this summer. More qualitative data on the skills and knowledge that they gained in
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they also complete a career readiness plan through our career center,
And it helps the students gain skills in 8 career competencies.

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so the students are getting help in multiple areas,
Not just from their faculty, but through career services department,

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creating their resume, creating a portfolio at the end,
Doing mock interviews and things like that.

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I did this the 45% of the students were offered

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employment at the site and 36% were working full time.

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91% said that this helped them connect them to other career opportunities. And obviously, 100% workforce prepared the barriers that were reduced by the stipend.

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overwhelmingly, it was transportation and fuel costs and housing and a lot of them.

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it reduced the need for the second job. Over 80% of the students reported increased
Confidence in pursuing careers in the behavioral health field after completing this

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internship, and we had 81% completion rate. Thank you.

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thank you very much. Miss angel, do we have any public comment on this presentation?

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yes, chair, we have 4 speakers. Give me just a moment.

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supervisor. Plummer. Would you mind if we got to the speakers first. Thank you very much,
Ladies.

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you may have some questions for you in a few minutes. Okay. Up first is don duckett, followed by shasta county watchdog,
Then mo.

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if I called your name, please get in the queue. Good morning.

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board chair. Kelstrom. The step up program is also my favorite program,
And I know that I've told you all before about the positive outcome that my son

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had with the step up program. So essentially,
He was a severely addicted addict who was in and out of our local

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criminal justice system, in and out of the jail,
Sucking up resources there, ended up in state prison.

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and in 2020, during covid, he was released early. And in that phone call to me, he said, mom, I'm not ready to get out.

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and by the grace of god he ended up through the day reporting center at the step up
Program,

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which was a game changer for him. He graduated there machine operator,
Heavy equipment operator program,

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and immediately was dispatched to fight the dixie fire,
Which gave him a sense of pride, accomplishment,

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and self-worth that he had not had ever in his life.

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and with addicts, a great form of treatment is giving them something new to be addicted
To.

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and so he became addicted to success. He's now earning a 6 figure income.

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he's a taxpayer. He volunteers. He just took his wife and children around europe on a
Dream vacation.

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and it's really hard to quantify those successful outcomes.

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it's very easy to look at the failures and say,
Well, this is how much it costs.

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but when you look at the successes and the taxes they pay and what they're putting back
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those are things that are very hard to quantify.

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so I'd like you to keep that in mind when you look at this data. Thank you. [appplause] up next is shasta county watchdog,
Followed by mo, then mary rickert.

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if I called your name, please get in the queue. I have some questions regarding this item,

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and I'm not asking you to answer because I know you can't. But for the audience or for everybody to kind of my,
My deal here is it's a great program to have for preventing,

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preventing children or anybody regarding drugs.

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but my question is, it's always going to be looking at what are you following the
Guidelines to be able to give this kind of money because it sounds more like

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a school. A school, like a nonprofit organization are they're treating these people
Regarding opioid

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money, or are we teaching them some kind of education?

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because if you're not treating them for the being addicted to this drug,
Then you're not you're misusing the funds to,

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to, to provide this to the, the college here organization,
Whatever it's called here.

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but I do believe that there's some guidelines that I actually been looking at all the
Opioid money that you've been

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giving out to these organizations so far since I seen the documents and the evidence since
I've been putting together most of them.

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you're not following the guidelines, you're tweaking it a little bit,
But you're not following following the guidelines.

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so if I was you, I'd be careful because I'm actually going to be providing some
Information to the

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the state to investigate. Because you're misusing the funds,
Totally.

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because I know that kevin price is also involved with this organization.

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and when it comes to kids, we all know that kevin crye always looking for someone where he
Could benefit from the funds.

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so that's my goal to go after. Up next is mo,
Followed by mary rickert.

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good morning board. Hello fellow constituents. My name is monique william, mrs duckett. They quantified it here for you.

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this is to let you know what is successful about this program.

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I was moved more by the qualitative because that's somebody's personal story with how this
Affects them.

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and I want to say thank you for doing what you're doing. What excited me was the fact that this whole whoever did this,
A very educated individual.

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but it's a little confusing. You know, normally we read left to right. It's too much. But this is amazing. And there's your quantification.

347
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so that being said my god, how do I even go from here?

348
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I've got family members that are addicted and going through programs and trying to help
Themselves.

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and I, every time I come up here, I try to facilitate for people to when they leave here,
You're not going to remember me,

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but something I said. And one one thing I want to talk about is when we cope with stress.

351
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oh boy. When a person experiences stress, he tries to alleviate it.

352
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being up here in front of everybody is extremely stressful. But I love what you're doing for the community.

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so please don't stop one foot in front of the other.

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to protect himself from serious discomfort. He or she may both.

355
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so I'm trying to be educated. My point being though,
This is a beautiful program.

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what makes me happy is it says opioid settlement. So that means somebody's hard work 9 years ago got us here today.

357
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so thank you for the work that you ladies do. From the bottom of my heart. This is what community is about.

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up next is mary rickert. Ensure that's our last speaker.

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good morning gentlemen. First of all, I want to kind of piggyback on what dolores said
About following the state guidelines,

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and we're all familiar with them. And I really do think we need to focus on that more.

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the step up program is an excellent program,
And I applaud shasta college for their work.

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I've never missed a graduation in the eight years I was a supervisor,
And I know people that have gone through the program just like dawn's son,

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and truly benefited from it. But I'm here today to shed light once again on the fact that
This board was handed by former county council jim ross.

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10s of millions of dollars of opioid settlement dollars to directly treat those suffering
From addiction.

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I have seen serious attempts to. I have not seen serious attempts to provide by this board
Immediate treatment services instead of boxing

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programs and similar kind of youth programs. Please consider focusing on the addicted
Parents so their children can have a

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healthy childhood. Cannot repeat that lifestyle and grow up to be productive citizens.

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those are the ones that are most impacted by this addiction problem.

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so I just ask that you reevaluate your priorities.

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we worked really hard to get those millions and millions of dollars,
And I really am troubled and not seeing after a year and a half how that money has been

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spent. It hasn't gone to direct services for treatment.

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00:46:36,290 --> 00:46:36,290
and as the pastor said this morning, you will be rendering an account to our lord.

373
00:46:41,130 --> 00:46:41,130
thank you very much. Supervisor plummer. Yes.

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thank you for the presentation and for the time before talking through the data,
And it's encouraging to see these early results.

375
00:46:57,090 --> 00:46:59,810
I did have a few just clarification questions on it. The first one was, I think on that second slide,
If you're able, it says 47% are in addiction studies.

376
00:47:08,530 --> 00:47:08,530
is that of the step up? Yes. Yeah. So many of our step up students,
Given their background,

377
00:47:14,330 --> 00:47:17,970
stayed on and continued to go into the addiction studies program. So some of them, that's their primary goal. For some of them,
They maybe are in the human services sector,

378
00:47:23,250 --> 00:47:25,450
but then they also wanted to get the certification. So there's a little bit of crossover there for those that population.

379
00:47:28,620 --> 00:47:28,620
okay. And what does coming out of that degree program or certificate program,
What does that enable them to do?

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like I guess, what level of qualification is that? So they do get, they do take the certification test.

381
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the internship is required in order for them to get certified,
And then they can go into becoming alcohol and drug counselors and some of our local

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agencies. We do look forward to tracking some of that in future semesters and letting you
Know how many,

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how many of them are getting jobs in our community and what that employment rate is.

384
00:47:59,300 --> 00:47:59,300
awesome. And then I saw that on the one side,
It said 373.

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our total enrolled in the alcohol and drug studies program. That's a that's a sizable number. I'm curious if you all have a sense.

386
00:48:11,940 --> 00:48:15,220
and I wouldn't necessarily expect you to, but just if. Of, you know, the number of drugs in the county or northern california in that field,
And whether that kind of

387
00:48:25,180 --> 00:48:25,180
the how the supply meets the demand. There in terms of drug counselors.

388
00:48:30,740 --> 00:48:30,740
yeah. Yeah. And so before we open that program,
Since it is only 2 years old now, there was a study done in order to present to the

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faculty to say, yes, this is a need we have. And so we did have the data on the potential
Jobs that were needed in our community to fill by this certification.

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and so I can provide that to you from that study we initially provided.

391
00:48:51,620 --> 00:48:51,620
okay, great. And then I had one last question.

392
00:48:55,900 --> 00:48:55,900
on the one slide, I think jenny shared, this was it said 100% workforce prepared.

393
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I just wasn't clear on what workforce prepared means in that context.

394
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prepared to enter the workforce. And like I said,
They undergo a career readiness plan through our career services department.

395
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and that career readiness plan walks them through 8 essential career skills that nace,
The national association of colleges and employers,

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has identified as workplace ready. And these are what we would consider soft skills,
Communication,

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things like that. Okay, great. Well, thank you for this,
I appreciate it.

398
00:49:35,500 --> 00:49:35,500
thank you chair. So you just answered some of the questions I had to supervisor plummer
About the addiction studies program and some of

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the counseling, drug and alcohol counseling possibilities.

400
00:49:50,620 --> 00:49:50,620
so I guess the only other question I would have is it sounded like there was a 2 step
Process initially,

401
00:49:56,380 --> 00:49:56,380
which would be students that were affected by opioid abuse,
And then also this kind of drug

402
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alcohol certification program through the addiction studies program.

403
00:50:10,620 --> 00:50:10,620
correct. So so that kind of kind of2 paths. I'm just curious about how many,
How many of the dollars have gone and how many people are being served in the

404
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first half and then the second component. So on the first screen,
We spent $12,300 on the step up students.

405
00:50:28,270 --> 00:50:28,270
those are students who are in opioid impacted and are receiving support services through
Step up.

406
00:50:33,510 --> 00:50:33,510
and again, we have a maximum of $50,000 a semester.

407
00:50:38,230 --> 00:50:38,230
but since we got started late, we didn't recruit as many students. We'll be looking to
Spend all of that next semester.

408
00:50:43,870 --> 00:50:43,870
and then in terms of the internship, it was 38,000.

409
00:50:48,230 --> 00:50:48,230
okay. And that's direct money going to the students and then the stipends going to the
Agency.

410
00:50:52,550 --> 00:50:55,550
so all of the money is passed through to students and agencies. Okay, okay. And it's going to take a while for them to get through the addiction studies
Program to get their counseling certifications correct.

411
00:51:02,270 --> 00:51:02,270
so we, we won't know how that, how effective that is until they start graduating that 2
Years from now.

412
00:51:08,310 --> 00:51:10,990
right. So the first group graduated in the spring. And so this is the first group we're able to show you.

413
00:51:13,190 --> 00:51:13,190
about half of those students graduated. A few have 1 or 2 more classes that they'll do
This fall and prepare to graduate.

414
00:51:18,790 --> 00:51:18,790
so yeah, we will start to see a cumulative effect of those students because the internship
Is typically the last thing they complete before they graduate.

415
00:51:25,510 --> 00:51:29,310
okay. And you might have covered this, but are they gaining employment? So we did have some of the employment data already.

416
00:51:31,590 --> 00:51:31,590
and then we will continue to track that in terms of that's why we're using our career
Services is to continue to track those employment statistics.

417
00:51:39,110 --> 00:51:39,110
excellent. Okay. Thank you. It was nearly half of the students were offered opportunities
At the sites after their internship.

418
00:51:46,350 --> 00:51:46,350
half of the students have had job offers. Yes.

419
00:51:50,950 --> 00:51:50,950
okay. Thank you. Supervisor crye. Before. Before I get to a couple questions,
I want to just clarify a couple things.

420
00:51:59,310 --> 00:51:59,310
ceo rickert. So I want to just address some of the inaccuracies in public comment,
But doesn't aaron bertain or miss bertain,

421
00:52:07,550 --> 00:52:07,550
deputy ceo check with the state whenever there's a question on how we use or how we
Propose to use the opioid funds.

422
00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:14,710
and also doesn't the I think it's dhcs. The department of health care services that has to
Check on that to make sure that we're using that money correctly.

423
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:24,320
that is correct. We vet all programs proposed by the board and the public before we bring
Them forward for final approval for the board.

424
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so those are all vetted by the state and approved specifically for the settlement of terms
And agreement.

425
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:37,000
perfect. I just want to make sure I made that clarification. The next one is I want to
Make sure we give credit to the people that really led the opioid dollar money and why we

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00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,760
have this. And that's mike sarkozy. He started that. And then baron and budd handled the litigation on a national level.

427
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,880
and then john fiske out of san diego did the litigation. So when you talk about when somebody mentions how this money got here,
I mean, let's be really clear how this money actually got here.

428
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:02,200
who led that effort, why it's here, but also why I think you don't just take it and you
Just run out and spend it.

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00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,480
I think we have to invest it. We have to invest it intentionally. The reason this county is in the financial shape it's in opposed to some of the other
Rural counties,

430
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especially the, you know, 10, 12, 13 northern counties.

431
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:20,600
and how we've invested the money, I believe,
Is like you guys actually have up to 50,000.

432
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:26,320
is that correct? Is, is that you up to 50,000 that you can spend in that.

433
00:53:31,240 --> 00:53:31,240
for the students themselves and then additional money for the internships? Correct. You
Spent 12.

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we spent 12 and then. 38. So yeah, we spent about 50,000. Okay. So my my question is, is there is there a possible effort to recruit more people who
Might not be looking to go to shasta college,

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but they would solely go for the step up? And I know you guys are doing some things now.

436
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:52,640
I know this is more of supervisor kelstrom. I won't say project or baby so to speak,
But he has more direct correspondence

437
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:02,480
with you guys. But do you guys see opportunities missed where you could grow this more,
Where the investment made?

438
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:10,160
we could actually the compound effect of, you know,
Maybe increasing that greatly by increasing some dollars.

439
00:54:18,650 --> 00:54:18,650
yeah, that's, that's definitely our plan is to maximize the dollars and to get as many
Students recruited as we can.

440
00:54:24,850 --> 00:54:24,850
when we met with supervisor plummer, the head of probation,
Tracy neil, was there as well and gave us some connections to network to some of the

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county social workers to let them know that this opportunity is there. So for students who are wanting to come to college wanting to explore career options,
Who have been impacted,

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00:54:40,810 --> 00:54:40,810
they can connect up with the staff and step up to make sure we help them get that strong
Start and then the supports they need.

443
00:54:47,210 --> 00:54:50,210
okay. Yeah. So if anybody knows a student, yeah,
Feel free to refer them. But we will continue active recruiting. No, I mean,
I know that there's recruiting efforts.

444
00:54:55,210 --> 00:54:55,210
I just was curious, you know, because I haven't looked deeply into that personally.

445
00:54:59,410 --> 00:55:02,610
I know supervisor plummer had a lot of questions. It seems like he's had most of them answered because his questions were very limited
Compared to what I thought we were going to be in for.

446
00:55:10,370 --> 00:55:10,370
you can't yell out no age limit. So yes. So what I will mention is,
You know, we didn't finalize the contract until may.

447
00:55:17,450 --> 00:55:17,450
and so I didn't really want to obligate the college too much on expending the funds.

448
00:55:21,770 --> 00:55:21,770
if we weren't able to meet that contract, then we wouldn't have been able to provide that
Support. So it was more of a soft opening this semester,

449
00:55:28,090 --> 00:55:32,050
and we would be far more aggressive in plenty of students that we can support out there. I appreciate it, thank you. No other questions. I can just update everyone that coming in.

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00:55:35,850 --> 00:55:35,850
we're getting ready for the fall. Now. We're bringing in the new crop of students. And we
Right now are at 25 under this cohort.

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00:55:43,090 --> 00:55:43,090
so 12 are new students that are coming in and 13 are going to be returning.

452
00:55:48,050 --> 00:55:48,050
some of those students were students that were not in step up previously.

453
00:55:52,090 --> 00:55:52,090
maybe they have 1 or 2 classes to finish. We're going back through all of our former
Students and looking to see what they need and trying to bring those back.

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00:56:01,050 --> 00:56:01,050
I sit on prop 47 committee with james goodwin.

455
00:56:06,330 --> 00:56:06,330
so that would be another source. So we're constantly out in the community talking to
Students where it stopped and those sorts of events,

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00:56:12,940 --> 00:56:12,940
trying to let everybody know. Awesome. Awesome.

457
00:56:17,460 --> 00:56:17,460
supervisor. Harmon. So I just want to say thank you for what you're doing,
But I also one quick question.

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00:56:23,820 --> 00:56:23,820
the 25 students, are they, are they generally or mostly local?

459
00:56:28,900 --> 00:56:32,380
yes. These are only shasta college shasta county students. Nice. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. All right. I don't think we have any more questions.

460
00:56:36,860 --> 00:56:36,860
thank you very much. And keep up the good work. [applause] all right.

461
00:56:42,380 --> 00:56:42,380
moving on. R.3 receive a presentation from cindy lane,
The health and human services agency,

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00:56:46,420 --> 00:56:46,420
behavioral health and social services branch director,
Regarding child adoption fees.

463
00:56:52,700 --> 00:56:52,700
miss lane. Thank you. Good morning, chair kelstrom and fellow members of the board.

464
00:56:57,700 --> 00:57:01,620
I'm cindy lane, branch director of behavioral health and social services. I'm here to present on ultimately adoption fees.

465
00:57:05,260 --> 00:57:05,260
but in order to start the presentation off, I felt it was important to highlight our
Purview,

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hhs purview. And that's through the child welfare or the dependency court.

467
00:57:17,620 --> 00:57:17,620
and so how families get involved in our system.

468
00:57:22,860 --> 00:57:22,860
it starts off with a referral or a call to the hotline,
And then we have an investigation if it gets that far.

469
00:57:29,220 --> 00:57:29,220
and once it's determined if a child needs to come into care,
We do have staffing to make that decision.

470
00:57:37,260 --> 00:57:37,260
and then ultimately it goes before the court and a judge determines if that child will
Remain in care.

471
00:57:43,980 --> 00:57:43,980
during that time. What gets decided is there could be family reunification services or
Family maintenance where the child remains in care.

472
00:57:52,620 --> 00:57:52,620
and then from there, case plans are developed and there are 6 month review hearings.

473
00:58:00,500 --> 00:58:00,500
that's quite a long process that I just said in a very short amount of time,
But once it gets to a point where the judge determines what the permanent plan

474
00:58:10,500 --> 00:58:10,500
is for that child and that reunification services are no longer going to be part of the
Plan,

475
00:58:18,540 --> 00:58:18,540
that is when a permanent plan is determined. And that could be adoption,
Legal guardianship,

476
00:58:24,820 --> 00:58:27,460
or another planned permanent living arrangement. And that could just be that other one. It could be a child in a short,
Strp, short term residential treatment program.

477
00:58:35,460 --> 00:58:35,460
it could be a child that's in a home and they don't want to be adopted,
Or they don't want to have a legal guardian.

478
00:58:41,500 --> 00:58:41,500
it could be that they're in a transitional living program.

479
00:58:45,900 --> 00:58:45,900
there's various other parts of that. So the child welfare social worker,
The adoption social

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00:58:55,340 --> 00:58:55,340
worker, these are the specific items that they'll be providing with the families that
They're working with.

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00:59:00,660 --> 00:59:03,380
so they're going to do adoption specific assessments. They'll provide ongoing support. They'll do the document gathering,
Navigating court and kind of walking alongside the family.

482
00:59:13,470 --> 00:59:13,470
so the fees in our specific court. So that's with dependency court cases.

483
00:59:19,990 --> 00:59:19,990
typically most of our fees can be waived. And so you'll see for example,
The live scan fees any of

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00:59:29,870 --> 00:59:32,750
our families, they go oftentimes to the sheriff's office. There's other places they can go, we can reimburse them for those fees.

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00:59:38,310 --> 00:59:38,310
the petition for adoption court filing, that's $20 per person.

486
00:59:42,710 --> 00:59:42,710
we also can reimburse those fees. And then there's also home safety requirements.

487
00:59:48,350 --> 00:59:48,350
so it could be a pool. And this often happens earlier in the process that it requires a
Fence around it.

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00:59:54,070 --> 00:59:54,070
or there's other home improvements that need to be had that are state requirements that we
Also can potentially reimburse.

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01:00:01,430 --> 01:00:01,430
and so kind of to highlight for our county, specifically,
In the past 5 years, we've had 344 total adoptions.

490
01:00:11,950 --> 01:00:11,950
and I can break it down per year. So 21 was 60 22,
74, 23, 67, 24 was

491
01:00:21,710 --> 01:00:21,710
70. And in 2025 we had 73 adoptions. And then if you break that down,
So potentially the $20 per person,

492
01:00:30,870 --> 01:00:30,870
it is an actual court fee. It is not our internal fee that works out to $6,880.

493
01:00:38,310 --> 01:00:38,310
and so I unfortunately supervisor crye was not able to run right before this,
How much we've actually reimbursed,

494
01:00:47,190 --> 01:00:47,190
but we've started to pull that data. So we can make sure,
But, but in general, it is a practice that we are reimbursing those fees.

495
01:00:58,510 --> 01:00:58,510
and then so to clarify, because I've been talking about our child welfare adoption avenue,

496
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:04,120
these are the others. So there's private adoptions,
Which could be with through a nonprofit agency,

497
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:10,440
a for profit agency, or just an independent adoption through both parties.

498
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:15,720
or there's probate court adoptions. And that could mean family member or non-family
Members get guardianship of a child.

499
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:24,320
and after 2 years, they then can apply for adoption that is separate and outside of our
Court.

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01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:32,160
and then there's also step parent adoptions through step parent adoptions.

501
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:36,360
we have there is legislation that we do pay for those investigations for the step parent
Adoptions.

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01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:45,920
and, and we embrace some things through there.

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01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:50,480
and I, the other thing I want to add with these adoption avenues,
Because there's so many variables,

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01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:55,680
it's really hard to say the fees or if someone has hired a private attorney and all of
Those other things,

505
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:02,480
what they'll equal out, you know, a for profit private adoption versus a nonprofit,
Those are probably going to be drastically different.

506
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:11,920
and so I'm open to questions. All right. Do we have any public comment on this item?

507
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:18,760
miss angel? Yes, chair. Give me just a moment.

508
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:24,720
we have 3 speakers up. First shasta county watchdog,
Followed by mo.

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01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:29,120
then brenda. If I called your name, please get in the queue.

510
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:36,200
I believe brenda and mo left. Mo is here. Almost there.

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01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:41,000
I see her now. My concern is regarding this

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01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:50,760
item here. Why does the the government or the county or the courts have to make profit off
Of children.

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01:03:01,450 --> 01:03:01,450
and for. And it takes 2 years for to kind of determine if that person qualified.

514
01:03:08,850 --> 01:03:08,850
do you try to figure how to return those children back to their home?

515
01:03:14,570 --> 01:03:14,570
I understand sometimes their homes is probably the worst to send them back to.

516
01:03:19,290 --> 01:03:19,290
but why is government always have to kind of control our children and charge money for
These kids,

517
01:03:29,010 --> 01:03:29,010
and then have to go to the court and have 1 judge determine where that child goes?

518
01:03:38,210 --> 01:03:38,210
I mean, my goodness, how long are we going to stop having the courts in,
In people charging for children and trafficking them

519
01:03:47,970 --> 01:03:47,970
to one parent to another? Yeah. It's nice when you get good parents for them to be
Adopted.

520
01:03:54,290 --> 01:03:54,290
adoption, you know. But the thing is, why are we profiting off of children?

521
01:04:02,890 --> 01:04:02,890
it never ends. If it's not just to park your damn car in the street.

522
01:04:08,050 --> 01:04:11,930
now, we're using children to profit, to make money. It's everywhere. My goodness. When is this this going to stop?

523
01:04:17,530 --> 01:04:17,530
that we're going to tax every little single thing on citizens and profit off of these kids
Or families,

524
01:04:26,090 --> 01:04:29,970
or even just like I said, to park your damn car outside. You can't park anywhere without have to pay. Not unless you're handicapped.

525
01:04:36,290 --> 01:04:36,290
I just find it very disturbing that, you know,
We have to have to constantly make money off of children.

526
01:04:44,650 --> 01:04:44,650
up next is mo, followed by brenda. I apologize,
Brenda had an appointment that she had to go to.

527
01:04:50,850 --> 01:04:50,850
so she's not here today. But brenda wanted me to let you know,
Kevin, that it means the world to her.

528
01:04:57,540 --> 01:05:00,700
that you are helping her get through some of these issues. So my understanding is, brenda she adopted 3 of her daughter's children,
And she's raising them right now.

529
01:05:08,300 --> 01:05:08,300
and I believe it was a probate court adoption due to the situation of the parent dying.

530
01:05:13,420 --> 01:05:13,420
and the father, ryan, or brenda's husband, ryan,
Is a stepparent.

531
01:05:18,540 --> 01:05:18,540
so that kind of convolutes the adoption process,
Which is unfortunate.

532
01:05:24,020 --> 01:05:24,020
brenda advised me that they had to do multiple background checks.

533
01:05:29,100 --> 01:05:29,100
this is one grandma adopting her 3 grandchildren,
And she's got to do 3 different background checks.

534
01:05:37,060 --> 01:05:37,060
she stated that the county it's $22 an hour. It's not a single fee.

535
01:05:42,900 --> 01:05:42,900
it's $22 an hour to investigate, she said, per adoption,
Because she's got 3 of them per adoption,

536
01:05:49,700 --> 01:05:49,700
it's almost $400. So that is income that brenda needs to hold on to,
To be able to buy shoes,

537
01:05:56,620 --> 01:05:56,620
to buy the pencil to write with, to buy the book that that the kid needs to read from.

538
01:06:01,100 --> 01:06:04,540
I mean, we really need to. I agree with dolores. We need to stop using children to make these funds.

539
01:06:08,500 --> 01:06:08,500
we need to understand this is a woman who's a grandma whose daughter died on the streets
Because she had mental health issues,

540
01:06:16,300 --> 01:06:16,300
and she's adopting her 3 grandchildren to give them the best opportunity of life.

541
01:06:21,500 --> 01:06:21,500
so what she did was ultimately save you money because they didn't go into the foster care
System.

542
01:06:26,580 --> 01:06:26,580
so please, let's help somebody like that who's doing it because her motives are pure.

543
01:06:31,100 --> 01:06:31,100
let's help her get the get it done without costing so much because she had to pay these
Fees.

544
01:06:37,780 --> 01:06:41,780
how is she going to buy shoes next month for all three children that are not hers? Does that make sense? Thank you. Thank you. Mo.

545
01:06:45,540 --> 01:06:45,540
supervisor. Crye. Thank you chair. Thank you for that.

546
01:06:50,020 --> 01:06:50,020
mo cindy. Thank you for the presentation. I know this is something we've talked about.
Well,

547
01:06:54,900 --> 01:06:54,900
not necessarily yourself, but christy coleman and even going back to the prior director
Before christy I realized that it's very nominal of what we

548
01:07:04,580 --> 01:07:04,580
have. Part of the thing that's disturbing for me is that kids have to enter at times.

549
01:07:08,700 --> 01:07:08,700
if I understand this correctly, the child child welfare system,
Before they get that help.

550
01:07:13,900 --> 01:07:13,900
so it's basically like we say, we're not going to help you until your car's already broken
Down.

551
01:07:21,460 --> 01:07:21,460
instead of saying, hey, let's maybe help you have your car not break down,
You got to have a breakdown first,

552
01:07:27,780 --> 01:07:27,780
be stranded and then they'll help. So maybe that's a bad analogy,
But there's, there's 2 things that I've,

553
01:07:32,780 --> 01:07:32,780
I've really realized in this process going through this and conversations I had yesterday
With county council as well as miss coleman.

554
01:07:41,660 --> 01:07:41,660
this is going to take far into next year. So I've reached out to miss chadwick's office.

555
01:07:47,870 --> 01:07:47,870
this is going to be a legislative possible item.

556
01:07:52,270 --> 01:07:52,270
it's going to be uphill. Not saying it's not not that it's not doable,
But there's so many agencies that crisscross.

557
01:07:58,830 --> 01:07:58,830
so putting that together. But at the end of the day,
I think there's nothing more important than having because oftentimes who steps up are the

558
01:08:07,790 --> 01:08:07,790
grandparents. And the grandparents oftentimes are not in their money making years.

559
01:08:13,590 --> 01:08:13,590
I'm not saying this is brenda's case, but in some of the people that I have had reach out
To me or that have reached out on social media about this item,

560
01:08:20,870 --> 01:08:20,870
you know, they're at an advanced age. And the last thing you think about when you're in
Your 60s or, god forbid,

561
01:08:27,190 --> 01:08:27,190
70s taking on a 6year old. And what's tough is if,
You know, you try and take them from their own kids,

562
01:08:36,550 --> 01:08:36,550
you know, that creates its own issues. But because it's not illegal to be homeless,
There's nothing illegal about that.

563
01:08:43,710 --> 01:08:43,710
but from a child welfare standpoint, when an individual is popping babies out and they're
In mercy canyon or they're somewhere else,

564
01:08:50,790 --> 01:08:50,790
and they've got a six year old running around with no diaper in the dirt when it's 110
Degrees.

565
01:08:54,950 --> 01:08:54,950
and you could tell there anyway, it's going to be a mess,
But I'm going to just take that on and this will take me far past my term.

566
01:09:01,430 --> 01:09:01,430
but I'm going to just see this through. I will make a motion that we look,
We bring an item back to eliminate the $20 fee.

567
01:09:09,430 --> 01:09:09,430
the county saves untold amounts of money if they if these kids don't enter the criminal
Justice system.

568
01:09:16,710 --> 01:09:16,710
and I think the best shot they have oftentimes are being raised by blood relatives.

569
01:09:21,990 --> 01:09:25,630
I do know that there has to be. Obviously, some look into that. So that's why there are funds expended. But the little we can do at the county.

570
01:09:29,670 --> 01:09:29,670
it's nominal. But I would again make a motion that we bring an item back to get rid of the
$20 fee.

571
01:09:35,470 --> 01:09:38,470
can I clarify one thing? That's the court's fee. It's not the county's fee, but what was the what was the we had there was something in
There for $20.

572
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,360
I thought that we that that it's paid to the county. So what, what fee is that? I think maybe what mo was referencing is not in relation to us.

573
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:53,680
and that was through probate court. But the $20

574
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,680
and that goes to the superior court of california. It does not come to us. Perfect. So then the county has no fee.

575
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:07,000
all right. Then there will be no motion. Thank you,
Supervisor long.

576
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:16,760
thank you chair. Thank you, cindy, for that presentation. First of all, I think. Adoption is always preferable for the child's sake and for the long
Term sake of the

577
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:30,080
county to foster care and some of those different options. So I'm, I'm for everything that we can do to help facilitate that.

578
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:33,320
and I recognize that we've got differences in court fees and county fees,
But it sounds like we're not charging any fees.

579
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:43,040
and that reimbursable fees like live scan and some of those things were going to we're
Going to come back with statistics.

580
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:50,080
that would be great. I'd be of great interest hearing those updates as to how much have we
Given back to these people going through the adoption process,

581
01:10:59,720 --> 01:10:59,720
because I think that's really important to try to to make this happen for,
For the child's sake,

582
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:05,760
if nothing else. And I my, my question was, it sounds like we have the welfare dependency
Arena,

583
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:13,160
then we've got probate and then we've got the private adoptions.

584
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:18,640
so those 2, the private adoptions and the probate are outside of our jurisdiction.

585
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:23,400
and that's that's my question is why. Why do we have no say in some of those 2 of the 3
Arenas?

586
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:33,360
so the private adoptions I'm, I don't know, I'm trying to think I know people that
Personally,

587
01:11:40,410 --> 01:11:40,410
they decided not to go through the foster care system,
And there are private adoptions that work with mothers on their own.

588
01:11:47,730 --> 01:11:47,730
and and they do it all. They don't want to be involved,
Let's say with the government or,

589
01:11:53,410 --> 01:11:53,410
or for various reasons, people go through and choose private adoptions.

590
01:11:59,130 --> 01:11:59,130
it's kind of a, it's a personal choice. And that's a separate court process that they just
Go through between them and the court,

591
01:12:04,770 --> 01:12:04,770
separate all those things. Okay. And then probate court,
That is when people get guardianship for various reasons.

592
01:12:12,970 --> 01:12:12,970
and it could be because they don't want their grandchildren or relatives in the foster
Care system,

593
01:12:19,970 --> 01:12:19,970
or they don't want their kids or grandkids in,
In the dependency court system.

594
01:12:27,090 --> 01:12:27,090
and so they choose or want to get guardianship and handle it on their own.

595
01:12:31,890 --> 01:12:31,890
sometimes people don't want child welfare because when we do have a case,
We are involved.

596
01:12:36,810 --> 01:12:36,810
they have to be bringing the kids for visitation weekly,
Typically.

597
01:12:42,050 --> 01:12:42,050
we are very much involved in all of their lives,
And it can be intrusive to some people.

598
01:12:49,090 --> 01:12:49,090
and sometimes parents and relatives are in agreement that guardianship is the best.

599
01:12:54,610 --> 01:12:54,610
or other times they might not be in agreement.

600
01:12:59,090 --> 01:12:59,090
however, the family decides to go the guardianship route and that is handled through
Probate court.

601
01:13:05,330 --> 01:13:08,330
and it's just a separate court that handles that. Okay. So so the choice resides with the adoption person as to which they can pursue
Private,

602
01:13:16,330 --> 01:13:16,330
they can pursue probate or they can go into the,
The welfare dependency arena.

603
01:13:22,850 --> 01:13:22,850
yes. And what I'll say is, unfortunately, because child welfare,
Most people don't want to be involved in the child welfare system.

604
01:13:31,290 --> 01:13:31,290
and unfortunately, and I know there are people here that they are grandparents or are
Relatives and their family.

605
01:13:37,450 --> 01:13:37,450
I've had family that has ended up in the child welfare system,
So it might mean they didn't necessarily choose it,

606
01:13:43,370 --> 01:13:43,370
but they're going alongside the family and they decide to become part of the case and take
The children,

607
01:13:48,850 --> 01:13:48,850
because we also do have resource family approval,
And we have relative caregivers that are also in our child welfare system.

608
01:13:57,210 --> 01:13:57,210
and so it might not be that they necessarily chose it,
But it just led to that to to them being their family,

609
01:14:05,210 --> 01:14:05,210
being involved in the child welfare. Well, those would probably be things like 300 w&I.

610
01:14:09,490 --> 01:14:09,490
correct? Yes. Those, those types of situations where law enforcement might take a child
For all kinds of different reasons and then place them with the,

611
01:14:18,210 --> 01:14:22,170
the foster parents, if you will, and then that whole process starts. And that's the, the welfare dependency route,
Correct?

612
01:14:25,570 --> 01:14:28,410
yes. So so they may not even have a choice over that. Yeah. And that's why I'm saying they wouldn't necessarily choose to get adoption through
Child welfare,

613
01:14:33,210 --> 01:14:33,210
but they probably wouldn't want the whole situation to happen,
If that makes sense.

614
01:14:37,580 --> 01:14:37,580
okay. Okay. And the last thing I'd say would be I'd be very interested in in the
Reimbursement rates that we are for live scan and for some of these fees and trying to

615
01:14:47,460 --> 01:14:47,460
keep those at a bare minimum or, or fully reimbursed so that we can facilitate this
Process because it's always better than,

616
01:14:56,260 --> 01:14:58,780
than a foster care situation. Yes, definitely. Okay. Thank you. All right. Before I get to you,
Supervisor.

617
01:15:01,980 --> 01:15:01,980
plummer. So I don't normally talk about this,
But I've been through the system a family member probably 18 years ago we got involved

618
01:15:10,900 --> 01:15:10,900
the, the, with my ex family member and her parents had taken the first child and didn't,
You know,

619
01:15:18,660 --> 01:15:18,660
couldn't, wasn't able to take the second child. So we got involved and I,
And I got to say, I was kind of surprised. Supervisor. Plummer. Crye. When you brought up

620
01:15:24,940 --> 01:15:24,940
that there's these huge, exorbitant fees, because I've been through the system,
Through the county,

621
01:15:29,580 --> 01:15:29,580
and I don't remember the fees. The only thing I remember and it was totally off subject.

622
01:15:33,820 --> 01:15:33,820
but at the time I was getting a job at a school,
I was also getting my ccw and I was going through the adoption process.

623
01:15:41,740 --> 01:15:41,740
I remember having to give my fingerprints three times at the sheriff's department thinking
They haven't changed. You know, you could use the other ones. But anyhow, that was side

624
01:15:47,820 --> 01:15:47,820
note there. But you know, we had our first social worker was fantastic.

625
01:15:51,900 --> 01:15:55,380
there was 2 ladies involved deborah and debbie. And I believe deborah was the one at the office 18 years ago.

626
01:15:58,380 --> 01:15:58,380
she's probably since retired. No, really. I think I know who you're talking about.

627
01:16:02,580 --> 01:16:02,580
okay. Well, she was fantastic. We took had to take him for visits,
Every one, you know, for a year and a half every week with your biological mom and

628
01:16:12,260 --> 01:16:12,260
dad. And then we went through the adoption process,
And that one was named debbie, I believe,

629
01:16:17,660 --> 01:16:17,660
over in the shasta college building. And we went through the adoption process and he
Adopted him.

630
01:16:21,980 --> 01:16:25,940
and like I say, I don't normally talk about it. He's got my last name. He's my son,
You know, so but I have been through it. And, you know,
You guys were great.

631
01:16:29,140 --> 01:16:29,140
deborah was great. Debbie was great. There's one in the middle that wasn't so great. It
Wasn't impressed with her at all. But anyways,

632
01:16:36,070 --> 01:16:38,990
it was again, I didn't remember exorbitant fees. I didn't remember having to pay a whole bunch of money out of pocket. And it was a family
Adoption.

633
01:16:43,030 --> 01:16:43,030
so yeah, through this, through this process,
What I've learned is there's about how many organizations are that there's like 4, right?

634
01:16:49,030 --> 01:16:49,030
there's quite a bit. 4 to 6 depends depends on if they're like if there's a stepparent
Involved,

635
01:16:56,630 --> 01:17:00,470
it depends. If they were taken away by cps, there's all these variables. And I, and I've personally met with a few different grandparents who have spent over
$30,000.

636
01:17:06,110 --> 01:17:09,190
and part of that's attorneys and part of that are some court costs. But again it's a, it's a wildly broken system.

637
01:17:14,230 --> 01:17:14,230
the reason why I made the motion to bring it back is I wanted to make sure before the end
Of this year,

638
01:17:19,270 --> 01:17:19,270
this was prioritized and we could get the information everybody needs because I think
Everybody here agrees.

639
01:17:25,030 --> 01:17:27,950
I appreciate your input. Supervisor chair kelstrom. But I really appreciate supervisor long your follow up questions because anything we can
Do and push on other jurisdictions.

640
01:17:33,830 --> 01:17:33,830
not that we can change their minds, but at least bring light to it because it's a very
Broken system.

641
01:17:39,150 --> 01:17:39,150
and kids, I mean, foster care can be great, just like having blood relatives can be great.

642
01:17:46,150 --> 01:17:46,150
and there are negatives, but we should make it as cheap and as streamlined as possible.

643
01:17:50,310 --> 01:17:50,310
if blood relatives, just like supervisor chair kelstrom stepped up and took somebody in
His family.

644
01:17:55,190 --> 01:17:55,190
so thank you chair supervisor plummer. Yes, thank you cindy.

645
01:18:00,550 --> 01:18:00,550
2 questions. One was around adoption subsidy payments.

646
01:18:05,670 --> 01:18:05,670
my understanding is that once somebody is adopted,
The adoptive parents receive subsidy payments.

647
01:18:13,310 --> 01:18:13,310
adoption assistance program, aap. And how much is that?

648
01:18:17,510 --> 01:18:17,510
typically, I'm going to call tammy my program manager up.

649
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:24,880
$1,350 roughly. Per month. Per month. Per child.

650
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:31,520
per child, $1,350 per month per child. Okay. And that does that apply just to the child,
The dependency court adoptions and not the

651
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:41,360
probate court and. Yes. Okay. And then the other question was,
When it comes to those fees and the reimbursement,

652
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:50,640
there's a live scan. They're paying the sheriff's office or some other law enforcement
Agency.

653
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:56,120
and then the other the court filing they're paying the court.

654
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:00,200
and so when the county's reimbursing them, where is the county getting the funds to
Reimburse them?

655
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:07,040
we have different allocations for adoptions. For all of the things we do with adoptions,
We have different allocations,

656
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:15,360
which I can get you those specific buckets of what they are.

657
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:19,640
I don't have them off. That's okay. It's are you it sounds like you're saying like federal
Funding or state funding to cover the cost of that.

658
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:28,000
yes. Okay. All right. Thank you. Supervisor. Harmon.

659
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:34,320
thank you. Cindy. If I was hopefully this is not inappropriate,
But if I was to ask you to do a little promo because people out there that

660
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:44,240
might be interested. You know what? This is a good opportunity to let people know.

661
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:50,720
like, for instance, I don't know how many kids are on standby waiting to be adopted.

662
01:19:57,480 --> 01:19:57,480
we, I think we have, I so all of them are in various stages.

663
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:01,600
I think we have roughly 300 ish kids in care right now.

664
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:06,120
and so, and I do appreciate you asking for the promo because we are always looking for a
Resource family,

665
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:15,280
parents, that's what we used to call foster parents. And we are in desperate need for people to take care of the kids in our community.

666
01:20:23,890 --> 01:20:23,890
and so anybody that's interested, please call (530) 225-5650.

667
01:20:29,770 --> 01:20:29,770
we also, if you search shasta county adoptions,
We do have a website specific for that.

668
01:20:35,650 --> 01:20:35,650
but we, those kids that are in care, some of them are already with relatives,
Some are with what would be traditionally known as foster homes.

669
01:20:45,770 --> 01:20:45,770
but that doesn't necessarily necessarily mean that foster home wants to adopt some just
Foster.

670
01:20:51,650 --> 01:20:51,650
and so anybody that's interested, we always have a need and there's a need across the
State,

671
01:20:57,490 --> 01:21:01,250
but I appreciate that. And also I wanted to say thank you. Supervisor kelstrom for also adopting through us.

672
01:21:07,250 --> 01:21:07,250
so, so age range, like, is it? Well here, as you all probably know so most people

673
01:21:16,890 --> 01:21:16,890
don't want to come and adopt our teens and those on the higher scale.

674
01:21:22,730 --> 01:21:22,730
most people, when they come, want to adopt the babies and the younger kids.

675
01:21:28,330 --> 01:21:28,330
and so we are always we are in need for all,
But we are especially in need for older youth.

676
01:21:36,210 --> 01:21:36,210
so I remember it's been a couple years. I was at the airport waiting to pick somebody up
Or getting ready to board or whatever.

677
01:21:45,530 --> 01:21:45,530
but but you had a poster. Yes. Is that still out there?

678
01:21:50,970 --> 01:21:54,530
is that I don't know. We we we do campaigns. I'm not sure. I'll have to go to the airport and check it out.

679
01:21:57,250 --> 01:21:57,250
I'm not sure right now if it's there, but we do campaigns to get the word out.

680
01:22:02,930 --> 01:22:02,930
yeah. That that was very impactful to me to sit next to that and look at that child that
Was wanting to be adopted.

681
01:22:10,810 --> 01:22:14,690
and it was like, yeah, almost had to move. So yeah. And in november is also adoption awareness month as well.

682
01:22:18,130 --> 01:22:20,450
just thank you for what you do. Thank you, thank you. Supervisor. Plummer. Yes. Just one clarification of that.

683
01:22:24,970 --> 01:22:28,770
roughly 300. You mentioned the different kind of statuses. Do you know roughly what portion have a case plan for adoption or kind of already in that
Bucket of having parental rights terminated?

684
01:22:36,490 --> 01:22:36,490
I don't know, off the top of my head, but I can get that of which basically because we
Have kids that are in active family reunification,

685
01:22:43,250 --> 01:22:43,250
and then we have kids that are in permanent plan that we can pull that and then drill down
Further for you.

686
01:22:48,850 --> 01:22:52,450
okay. Thank you. All right. I see no one else in queue. Thank you very much. And thank you for what you do. Appreciate it. Thank you. [applause]
All right.

687
01:22:57,010 --> 01:22:59,890
moving on. Public comment. Do we have any speakers today? Yes, chair. We have 11. 11 speakers. All right.

688
01:23:02,850 --> 01:23:02,850
all are in person. So the entire 30 minutes will be given to in-person speakers.

689
01:23:07,170 --> 01:23:07,170
okay. First up is don duckett, followed by shasta county watchdog,
Christine bagley, john dunlap,

690
01:23:13,130 --> 01:23:15,610
then mo. If I called your name, please get in the queue. You. Okay, don duckett passes. First up is shasta county watchdog,
Followed by christine bagley,

691
01:23:24,500 --> 01:23:24,500
john dunlap, then mo again. If I called your name,
Please get in the queue.

692
01:23:43,180 --> 01:23:43,180
discrimination based on race color failed to prevent discrimination and harassment and
Retaliation in violation.

693
01:23:54,580 --> 01:23:54,580
discrimination based on disability. Violation of americans with disability act.

694
01:24:03,020 --> 01:24:03,020
the board has violated these laws and more and other laws.

695
01:24:08,580 --> 01:24:08,580
and the board has a responsibility to the citizens and we continue to allow this the
Citizens.

696
01:24:18,780 --> 01:24:18,780
I have actually filed a civil rights complaint regarding the board against kevin crye,
Including others,

697
01:24:27,380 --> 01:24:27,380
public officials, because this has been going on for a long time,
And we should not tolerate people treating others like that because they do not

698
01:24:37,020 --> 01:24:37,020
have the they do not have the power. We have the power.

699
01:24:41,820 --> 01:24:41,820
we just need to know how to fight these people who continue to violate our rights.

700
01:24:47,340 --> 01:24:47,340
kevin crye thinks he can do this to us, but you as board supervisors have a duty to also
To step up to the plate and defend the

701
01:24:57,180 --> 01:24:57,180
people. He violates those rights. You do. When you don't,
You actually engage and allow this silence.

702
01:25:04,580 --> 01:25:04,580
it means it's not okay to be silenced when you allow this.

703
01:25:08,900 --> 01:25:08,900
kevin crye earlier said, I guess mo said something to kevin,
Say, hey, oliver is out there with no t shirt disgusting.

704
01:25:17,430 --> 01:25:17,430
and then kevin crye says, dolores. So that means he made that comment against me,
And that's why I approach him.

705
01:25:25,270 --> 01:25:29,270
a board of supervisor cannot do that and harass citizens. And if you're going to continue that and also groom that little kid to say things about me
And for him to go on the radio,

706
01:25:36,230 --> 01:25:36,230
that that's he's going to get treated the way

707
01:25:43,630 --> 01:25:47,550
then mo, then christopher stevens. And interrupt the meetings,
Everybody. Miss begley so up next is christine begley, followed by john dunlap,
Mo then christopher stevens.

708
01:25:56,470 --> 01:26:00,030
I've been here a few times. I know a lot of you. Again, I'm here on behalf of river ranch concerning the jail and the a few people out
There don't know that the board of supervisors here want

709
01:26:09,950 --> 01:26:09,950
to put a bunch of felons rehabilitation felons in our county.

710
01:26:15,150 --> 01:26:15,150
we have enough homeless, we have enough felons,
And we don't need any more.

711
01:26:19,590 --> 01:26:19,590
and it's located on the sacramento river, next to an old subdivision of like 97 homes.

712
01:26:27,630 --> 01:26:27,630
we don't want that. I want to remind you that you took an oath when you first became a
Supervisor to protect your constituents.

713
01:26:36,310 --> 01:26:36,310
I'm one of those. And matt and I have had several conversations,
And I want him to fight for me.

714
01:26:43,910 --> 01:26:43,910
I want you all to fight for me because this is not something that we want in our county.

715
01:26:49,550 --> 01:26:49,550
and if you put it on a ballot, I'm sure you will find out at least 80% of the people don't
Want this.

716
01:26:57,070 --> 01:26:57,070
if it's about the money, I understand that we have to make money,
But we don't want you to make it on the back of your constituents.

717
01:27:05,870 --> 01:27:05,870
and I think it was supervisor long. Just recently,
I saw a thing on facebook where you were talking about this project,

718
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:16,080
and you said very gleefully that you had spoke to one person,
And he's all for it.

719
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:22,760
well, there's 97 of their other homes down there that don't want it.

720
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:28,320
so I'm I'm pleading with you. I'm begging with you to reconsider putting this somewhere
Else.

721
01:27:34,440 --> 01:27:34,440
if there's a need, I'm all for it. But as you know,
Not in my neighborhood.

722
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:39,640
and none of you would want it in your neighborhood either. Thank you for your time. And
Thank you, mike mangus,

723
01:27:44,200 --> 01:27:44,200
for always being available to the community. Up next is john dunlap,
Followed by mo, christopher stevens,

724
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:52,600
then jacqueline treadway. If I called your name,
Please get in the queue. Good afternoon or morning?

725
01:27:58,480 --> 01:27:58,480
I'm john dunlap. I'm here to urge you not to move too quickly on the expansion of the
Landfill.

726
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:09,760
it has something to do with the courthouse, I'm sure. And I am actively trying to work with staff to talk about reexamining some of the things
Regarding the demolition of the courthouse for

727
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:23,160
the public. I sent letters to you, and it's identifying that. But I am a structural engineer. I have done the structural engineering on 2 separate jails
In placer and tuolumne county.

728
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:32,800
excuse me, siskiyou county administration center in tuolumne county and a lot of other
Jobs locally.

729
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:39,880
I was the structural engineer of the city hall,
Foothill high school, and a bunch of other things.

730
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:45,320
but most importantly for this conversation, I was the structural engineer on a remodel of
The courthouse in the annex in 1992.

731
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:55,760
that doesn't get mentioned in the eir, but at that time,
The 2nd and 3rd floors were totally removed of asbestos and paint.

732
01:29:04,440 --> 01:29:08,210
pete, I can't tell you about the the lower floor. In addition, we did some work on the standard courthouse in creating a jury assembly room.

733
01:29:14,690 --> 01:29:14,690
we encountered no asbestos, no. Who might have been a bit of paint.

734
01:29:20,610 --> 01:29:20,610
the study at that time came back and said that the asbestos on the courthouse was
Primarily in the exterior wall wall

735
01:29:30,410 --> 01:29:33,690
outside. I'm going to give a couple examples very quickly. County says it's paying $15,000 a month for utilities.

736
01:29:38,090 --> 01:29:38,090
that's $180,000 a year. 1.8 million in 10 years.

737
01:29:42,570 --> 01:29:46,170
we've got 3.57 in there just to tear it down. We're trading $300. A square foot times three floors is $900 a square foot for a $10 a
Square foot parking lot.

738
01:29:55,570 --> 01:29:55,570
I've talked to gene nichols

739
01:29:59,690 --> 01:30:02,650
up next is mo, followed by christopher stephens. Jacqueline. Treadway, then nick. Good morning board.

740
01:30:09,570 --> 01:30:09,570
hello fellow constituents. Again, my name is monique wallin and I've been coming in since
September 19th,

741
01:30:14,490 --> 01:30:18,170
2017. I don't know why, but I feel compelled to tell you the date. That being said, 3 years into speaking at the boards,
I had a medical issue and I went to shasta community health center for some help.

742
01:30:27,690 --> 01:30:27,690
the way they do their program, it's always a bunch of brand new physicians you're seeing,
And they do internships.

743
01:30:34,690 --> 01:30:34,690
so it constantly changes and probably about what is it?

744
01:30:39,450 --> 01:30:43,130
4 or 5 years ago, I was told I had a swollen lymph node. And then that course of action went that route.

745
01:30:45,570 --> 01:30:45,570
and then I was told I had pseudogout. And then the course of action went that route.

746
01:30:50,170 --> 01:30:50,170
the whole time I'm telling them that this is a chronic,
Painful issue.

747
01:30:54,970 --> 01:30:54,970
I need help with my hip. One of the ladies, I guess,
Is, you know, the people that take your blood pressure.

748
01:31:01,450 --> 01:31:01,450
she had the nerve to tell me to my face that I was drug seeking.

749
01:31:06,690 --> 01:31:06,690
I asked her what the next step for pain management is after tylenol and ibuprofen.

750
01:31:11,810 --> 01:31:14,490
is it lyrica? Is it gabapentin? Talk with me. Let's work this out because I can barely walk now.

751
01:31:17,730 --> 01:31:17,730
well, here we are 5 years later. It's not a swollen lymph node.

752
01:31:22,770 --> 01:31:22,770
it is not pseudogout. It's a tumor. So years ago when I was looking for medical help,
I was told a bunch of different things by

753
01:31:32,650 --> 01:31:32,650
a bunch of brand new doctors. I have been steered in the wrong direction because I didn't
Advocate for myself.

754
01:31:42,930 --> 01:31:46,530
because the way I work, I'm advocating for others. There is a serious problem at shasta community health center.

755
01:31:51,130 --> 01:31:51,130
my point being is you've got to be your own advocate and ask those questions and have
Those conversations that are difficult.

756
01:31:58,650 --> 01:32:01,900
what is the pain like? How often does it hurt? You know, all the points that I want to make,
But we need to do something about our health care system,

757
01:32:06,580 --> 01:32:06,580
our adoption system, because they're all broken.

758
01:32:10,660 --> 01:32:10,660
up next is christopher stevens, followed by jacqueline treadway,
Then nick, then patti plum.

759
01:32:17,300 --> 01:32:17,300
good afternoon board. I'm here today to ask you to fix a gap in the child welfare system
Right now.

760
01:32:23,260 --> 01:32:23,260
if family's in dependency court and later proves the allegations were false,
There's no county oversight or policy to review it,

761
01:32:31,500 --> 01:32:31,500
correct it, or make it right. Once jurisdiction and disposition happens,
That door closes even with new evidence.

762
01:32:38,220 --> 01:32:38,220
even if the truth comes out 3 or 6 months later,
Families lose time with their kids.

763
01:32:43,420 --> 01:32:43,420
they lose money, they lose jobs, they lose trust,
And the record never gets fixed.

764
01:32:48,700 --> 01:32:48,700
I'm asking the board to direct health and human services agency to create 4 new policies.

765
01:32:54,420 --> 01:32:57,780
the first policy is a post jurisdiction review policy. If the case is dismissed or new evidence is provided that the allegations are false,
Hhs must do an audit and file within 30 days to correct cws

766
01:33:07,700 --> 01:33:07,700
records. The 2nd a family restoration policy.

767
01:33:12,740 --> 01:33:12,740
if the review finds no basis, we need rapid reunification reimbursement for court ordered
Costs and a formal letter of factual innocence to families that

768
01:33:22,620 --> 01:33:22,620
can they can use to clear their name. 3rd, an accountability policy.

769
01:33:27,420 --> 01:33:27,420
if an audit finds that a social worker knowingly made false statements to the court,
It must be referred to for review and the social worker needs to be held accountable.

770
01:33:37,900 --> 01:33:37,900
this protects good social workers and hold bad actors accountable.

771
01:33:42,140 --> 01:33:42,140
4th, an open evidence policy. Families must be allowed to submit new evidence for review
At any point in an open case,

772
01:33:51,060 --> 01:33:51,060
not just at the first hearing. If new proof comes out that shows the false or misleading
Information.

773
01:33:57,390 --> 01:33:57,390
hhs should review within 14 days and file it with the court and recommend the case be
Immediately dismissed and the children returned home.

774
01:34:06,070 --> 01:34:06,070
this isn't about attacking child welfare. This is about accuracy and integrity and the
Kids.

775
01:34:12,710 --> 01:34:16,350
good policy protects children and protects innocent families. Thank you. Can you do me a favor? Could you email that to me?

776
01:34:19,310 --> 01:34:19,310
yeah. Okay. Up next is jacqueline treadway, followed by nick,
Patty plum, then mary rickert.

777
01:34:25,470 --> 01:34:25,470
if I called your name, please get in the queue. You are used to listening to groups when
They show up in mass to get your attention.

778
01:34:35,270 --> 01:34:35,270
the public can operate mass responses to injustice after a good night's sleep,
Breakfast and an income to sustain their meaningful lives.

779
01:34:44,710 --> 01:34:44,710
you haven't a clue of the sacrifices my homeless teams have to make to just show up to
Advocate for their worthiness of the

780
01:34:54,430 --> 01:34:54,430
simple dignity of a safe and dignified, dignified sanctuary that validates their humanity,

781
01:35:01,630 --> 01:35:01,630
let alone their value. These are the homeless of the half light.

782
01:35:08,390 --> 01:35:08,390
they are stuck in a dangerous spot between 2 worlds the world of sleep deprivation,
Constant displacement and dangerous nights,

783
01:35:17,630 --> 01:35:17,630
and the world of promoting hope for a life worth living.

784
01:35:21,910 --> 01:35:21,910
I've implemented many ways to provide some relief from these burdens,
But I'm powerless to in keeping them safe from the

785
01:35:31,630 --> 01:35:31,630
rat pack and others that get irritated and activated when hope interferes with their
Mission to terrorize and drive out these

786
01:35:41,390 --> 01:35:41,390
souls like cockroaches to extinction. Previously,
When I initiated my skip that you have.

787
01:35:49,270 --> 01:35:49,270
you have asked for data to verify the genetic neurodivergent temperament of the majority
Of the camping and street homeless in order to justify a

788
01:35:58,640 --> 01:35:58,640
sanctuary of appropriate to their needs. 1 team member has been hospitalized twice for a
Week to recover from their injuries.

789
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:08,320
just because they are collecting data, that data that you require,
And they had to disappear when they could.

790
01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:15,880
no longer when he could no longer keep his wife safe from the threats of that group.

791
01:36:22,480 --> 01:36:26,480
I'm asking many in this target group have to suffer before. How many? Up next is nick, followed by patty plum,
Mary rickert, then ronald plum.

792
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:34,240
if I called your name, please get in the queue. Hey,
I'm liking this 2 minutes slows down some of these people.

793
01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:42,360
I appreciate that I'm here about I expect in the next meeting or 2,
We're going to come up with a subject about censoring clint curtis,

794
01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:52,160
and I would like the board to encourage or insist that monica fugitt present both sides of
What she was told in her

795
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:01,680
investigation. As far as I'm concerned, when she was up here the last time,
She just presented the side from the old guard that were against

796
01:37:11,640 --> 01:37:11,640
clint curtis from the start. And I know that she had documentation and people contact her
That were new to the office,

797
01:37:21,440 --> 01:37:21,440
that were witness to the fact that a lot of the allegations weren't true.

798
01:37:28,480 --> 01:37:28,480
and I would like you to insist that she present both sides,
Because when she only presents one side,

799
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:36,360
she's just giving her opinion. If it's going to be an investigation,
We should certainly have the right to see both sides of what was presented.

800
01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:47,650
so if somebody would take the initiative to insist on that. I'd appreciate it. Thank you. Up next is patty plum.

801
01:37:54,610 --> 01:37:54,610
I'm not seeing patty. She's not present. We'll do mary rickert,
Followed by ronald plum.

802
01:38:04,130 --> 01:38:04,130
good morning again. I'm deeply disappointed in this board's decision to put the eminent
Domain issue back on the ballot.

803
01:38:11,490 --> 01:38:11,490
this is an incredible waste of money for the taxpayers of this county.

804
01:38:15,890 --> 01:38:15,890
my husband has been an accredited rural appraiser for 52 years and has been recognized
Nationally for his proficiency in this profession.

805
01:38:25,450 --> 01:38:25,450
he has never seen this occur in his career. I've also spoken with public works directors,
My time as a supervisor,

806
01:38:32,650 --> 01:38:32,650
and they also told me they could never find an instance of this happening in the county's
History.

807
01:38:37,410 --> 01:38:37,410
you are wasting our time. You should be spending this money on projects such as circle of
Friends in bernie.

808
01:38:44,250 --> 01:38:44,250
people are going to suffer as a result of your inaction.

809
01:38:49,210 --> 01:38:51,370
and last but not least, I just want to mention,
Mr. Crye, you are rewriting history on the opioid settlement fund money efforts.

810
01:38:55,450 --> 01:38:55,450
you were not here. I was, and I worked on this effort to secure these dollars.

811
01:39:01,610 --> 01:39:01,610
the documentation is there that jim ross brought this money to shasta county.

812
01:39:05,890 --> 01:39:05,890
please use it for its intended use. Thank you.

813
01:39:11,050 --> 01:39:14,970
county council, is it mike? You want to engage? Okay. I just hate revisionist history. And up next is ronald plummer and chair.

814
01:39:20,130 --> 01:39:20,130
that's our last speaker. Good morning. Board.

815
01:39:30,490 --> 01:39:30,490
foster care and all of that. I'm just going to mention just real quickly,
Probably worked in 8 different different agencies.

816
01:39:37,210 --> 01:39:37,210
started my own agency, actually started 2 doesn't we are in a crisis.

817
01:39:43,130 --> 01:39:43,130
there's no doubt about it. Foster care is has more problems.

818
01:39:48,170 --> 01:39:48,170
our kids, our society has so many problems. You know,
I worked I my main office was in fresno,

819
01:39:54,570 --> 01:39:54,570
california, and I had over 350 children in care.

820
01:39:58,890 --> 01:39:58,890
we do have a big problem, and we really need to do everything we can to support families
That are falling apart.

821
01:40:07,490 --> 01:40:07,490
there's no doubt about it, because if you can go uphill from the problem,
You're better off.

822
01:40:13,210 --> 01:40:13,210
so you guys are in a real pickle. Actually, I believe because you're inheriting nothing
But 100 years of problems and you're trying to do

823
01:40:22,890 --> 01:40:25,730
everything you can to keep the boat floating. But it's got a big hole in the hull, and you know that.

824
01:40:29,490 --> 01:40:29,490
and you may have people down there trying to patch that hole and doing everything you can
To keep them busy so that they don't realize they're going to sink.

825
01:40:36,970 --> 01:40:36,970
but we're in. We're in bad shape. Our county is in bad shape.

826
01:40:41,090 --> 01:40:41,090
our state is in bad shape and you guys are caught between president trump wanting the save
America act and measure b,

827
01:40:50,220 --> 01:40:50,220
which actually measure b is exactly what trump wants.

828
01:40:55,020 --> 01:40:55,020
and you guys are in the middle of that, which puts you kind of in the meat grinder.

829
01:40:59,660 --> 01:40:59,660
so the bottom line is, is that if we hadn't had people like john adams,
His cousin sam

830
01:41:10,580 --> 01:41:10,580
john hancock, those people were willing to put their lives on the line.

831
01:41:14,820 --> 01:41:14,820
so the bottom line is you're going to sink and you have to decide,
Am I going to live through this,

832
01:41:21,140 --> 01:41:21,140
or am I going to give my life for it? And that's exactly where you're at.

833
01:41:25,420 --> 01:41:25,420
you're in that. Hey, ron, it's been a long time since I've seen you.

834
01:41:31,380 --> 01:41:33,980
you look great, man. Thank you. Way to fight. Appreciate it. Praying for you. Appreciate you.

835
01:41:36,780 --> 01:41:40,020
okay. And that reminds me of a couple of motions that I wanted to make earlier. So I would like to bring back to the board a letter of support for the save america act to
Safeguard american voting eligibility.

836
01:41:48,780 --> 01:41:48,780
so that's one motion. Motion made by myself. Seconded by supervisor crye.

837
01:41:53,620 --> 01:41:56,900
all those in favor? Any discussion? Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Passes 5 0. And I'd also like to bring back for board consideration of
Doubling the fines for illegal dumping from 500 to 1000.

838
01:42:06,260 --> 01:42:06,260
you know, 50 years ago when they came out with the hooty the owl and don't give a hoot,
Don't pollute.

839
01:42:11,100 --> 01:42:13,180
and it was a $1,000 fine for illegal dumping. And I as a, you know, young kid, I thought that was a pretty good sum of money back 50
Some years ago.

840
01:42:18,580 --> 01:42:22,460
but you want to bring an item. It's still. Yeah,
At least double it in this county. Yes. All right. Motion made by myself. Seconded by supervisor crye.

841
01:42:26,900 --> 01:42:30,380
all those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Passes 5 0. All right, moving on. Miss miranda, I mrs angel.

842
01:42:33,620 --> 01:42:36,340
was there any items pulled from consent? No,
Chair. Okay. I will entertain a motion to approve. I did have can I ask one quick question?

843
01:42:40,830 --> 01:42:42,910
absolutely. Just really quick. It's on c six. It's for supervisor. Plummer the cab board your guys's funding has been.

844
01:42:48,750 --> 01:42:48,750
has it been cut back or rolled back in the last year or two?

845
01:42:53,870 --> 01:42:53,870
the the funding for the community action agency is significantly lower,
If I'm remembering correctly.

846
01:43:00,390 --> 01:43:00,390
I think it used to be somewhere around 8 million and now it's in the 100,000.

847
01:43:05,950 --> 01:43:09,470
so I just want to double check that and make sure because I know it's. Yeah. All right. I make a motion to approve consent.

848
01:43:13,870 --> 01:43:17,350
second. Motion made by supervisor. Seconded by supervisor. Plummer. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed?

849
01:43:19,790 --> 01:43:19,790
passes 5 0. All right. So moving on to r four.

850
01:43:25,110 --> 01:43:29,030
so I believe we have to conduct a public hearing. Correct. All right mr. Heath. Good morning chair.

851
01:43:35,870 --> 01:43:39,710
kelstrom members of the board. John heath, interim public works director. Today we're talking about parcel charges for r4.

852
01:43:43,510 --> 01:43:43,510
in particular, we're talking about prd partial charges.

853
01:43:47,550 --> 01:43:47,550
you'll remember from recent presentation these are a way to provide for road maintenance
On public roads that are outside of the

854
01:43:57,190 --> 01:43:57,190
county's maintained mileage. We raise funds for that maintenance through a parcel
Assessment on parcels along those subject

855
01:44:06,630 --> 01:44:06,630
roads. When it comes to parcel charges shasta county code requires that annually we
Prepare a

856
01:44:16,110 --> 01:44:16,110
report of parcel charges that lists the charge and every parcel which is receiving that
Parcel charge for the case

857
01:44:25,750 --> 01:44:25,750
of prds. While the county has a single county wide prd there are 86 zones discrete areas
Within that

858
01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:36,320
that county wide pretty, each one of those 86 zones has its own discrete assessment.

859
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:44,360
regarding the report. So I'll draw your attention to the report which is included in your
Staff report packet.

860
01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:54,320
following your review, the report, we would conduct a public hearing.

861
01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:03,200
and then following the public hearing, we could discuss the report. If there were no changes or revisions, you'd enact a resolution which would affirm that
Report,

862
01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:11,000
at which point we would transmit that to the the auditor and the tax collector,
And that would get put on the tax rolls.

863
01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:18,680
what I will note will note is that there are no changes in any of the assessments this
Year.

864
01:45:23,880 --> 01:45:23,880
so all of the assessments are exactly the same as they've been in previous years.

865
01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:30,160
with that I'm happy to take any questions. Supervisor long.

866
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:38,560
thank you chair. Thank you john. It's a simple question.

867
01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:43,560
what determines the criteria for something getting entered into a prd?

868
01:45:48,480 --> 01:45:51,680
why? Why are we not taking care of all subdivisions. Yeah. So this is a, this is a process that goes back to maybe the mid 90s at which point
Road funding,

869
01:46:00,440 --> 01:46:00,440
gas tax funding that we get for county maintained roads was dwindling.

870
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:05,920
and there just wasn't enough funding to pay for maintenance of all roads.

871
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:11,600
so at that point the board decided that that all new subdivisions would be,
Would take care of road maintenance through the

872
01:46:21,320 --> 01:46:21,320
prd. Unless the subdivision was creating an arterial or a collector,
Which is a larger volume road.

873
01:46:29,440 --> 01:46:33,280
but for the neighborhood roads, they would be. Maintenance would be taken care of via the prd.

874
01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:39,680
and what was that threshold year? You said two. I'm sorry, I do not have that exact information.

875
01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:45,120
it was in the it was in the mid 90s, I believe. So so in the mid 90s, every new subdivision road,
Unless it's an arterial road was a prd.

876
01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:56,560
that is correct. That is correct. I didn't know that. Okay. Yeah. And then we've since last year the board made a modification to that
Requirement to allow hoa roads

877
01:47:07,040 --> 01:47:07,040
as well as prd roads. Hom sorry, homeowners association.

878
01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:12,160
so maintenance is taken care of by a legally created homeowners association.

879
01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:18,080
thank you. Supervisor. Plummer. Thanks, john.

880
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:24,080
as you know, we've been going back and forth on the last amount of mountain pines.

881
01:47:30,610 --> 01:47:30,610
prd. Yeah. And the question there, and I know we've talked about this,
But to clarify, the current policy of the county

882
01:47:40,210 --> 01:47:40,210
is that the prd is not created until actual work is started or completed on the roads
Itself.

883
01:47:52,090 --> 01:47:52,090
well, I know where you're going. Let me clarify your question a little bit.

884
01:47:56,490 --> 01:47:56,490
so the prd has to be created at the formation of the subdivision now.

885
01:48:02,890 --> 01:48:02,890
and, and I will tell you even even before the roads are built the prd begins collecting
Fees,

886
01:48:11,210 --> 01:48:11,210
right. The county is ensuring the prd and there's an administration,
There's administration just with collecting the assessments,

887
01:48:19,890 --> 01:48:19,890
me doing this, this work here. So there are even before roads are created,
There are some charges.

888
01:48:25,930 --> 01:48:25,930
now. Previously we didn't differentiate between whether a road was built or not.

889
01:48:33,490 --> 01:48:33,490
subdivision is approved usually with that within that same item at the board.

890
01:48:39,290 --> 01:48:39,290
when the subdivision is approved, the prd is created and approved.

891
01:48:43,650 --> 01:48:43,650
at that point, assessments would begin the next tax year,
Whether the roads were built or not.

892
01:48:51,370 --> 01:48:51,370
and it had been that process since since we started the prd process,
Likely in the 90s.

893
01:49:00,490 --> 01:49:00,490
and in the case of the lassen mountain pines subdivision sorry,
This is a little convoluted because I'll let you

894
01:49:10,410 --> 01:49:12,970
know there's another, there's another criteria as well. So if the roads are not created at the time the subdivision is approved,
The developer has to enter into an improvement agreement.

895
01:49:21,250 --> 01:49:21,250
so an agreement with the county that says these roads will be built within a certain
Period of time.

896
01:49:27,420 --> 01:49:27,420
they are required to bond for those improvements at that time.

897
01:49:32,380 --> 01:49:32,380
so in the case of lassen mountain pines, when that subdivision was approved,
I believe in 21,

898
01:49:38,940 --> 01:49:38,940
the roads were not created. The roads were not built at that point in time.

899
01:49:42,980 --> 01:49:42,980
the developer signed all of the documents to create the prd.

900
01:49:48,220 --> 01:49:48,220
the prd was formed and approved by the board of supervisors at that point.

901
01:49:53,020 --> 01:49:53,020
the maintenance assessments began whether in full,
Whether the road had been built or not.

902
01:50:01,260 --> 01:50:01,260
so after it had been after a couple of years after that had been,
Had been approved and formed,

903
01:50:08,780 --> 01:50:08,780
the developer came to the county, came to public works and said,
Hey, you know what, I don't this doesn't make sense to me that I'm paying this maintenance

904
01:50:18,620 --> 01:50:18,620
assessment on a road that isn't built well. There's a certain amount of logic that that
Agrees with that.

905
01:50:24,700 --> 01:50:24,700
but there's also you're saving money for a rainy day,
Whether you know, and that rainy day is going to come no matter what.

906
01:50:31,980 --> 01:50:31,980
so whether you're paying the assessment before the road is built or after the road is
Built really is kind of semantics regardless.

907
01:50:41,020 --> 01:50:43,980
the department listened to what the developer had to say. And we saw, we saw some some valid points within it.

908
01:50:48,500 --> 01:50:48,500
at that point, we, we began a discussion with county council the tax collector and the
Auditor.

909
01:50:57,540 --> 01:50:57,540
that process kind of went to fruition with the tax,
I'm sorry, with the auditor and county council and wherein we created a process,

910
01:51:07,020 --> 01:51:07,020
we agreed with the developer. Ultimately, we agreed with the developer and said,
Yes, you should not have to pay the maintenance assessment until the county accepts the

911
01:51:14,740 --> 01:51:14,740
roads, which is part of the improvement agreement.

912
01:51:19,100 --> 01:51:19,100
so in the case of lawson mountain pines, they had already enacted documents and started
The process to begin the full maintenance assessment.

913
01:51:29,110 --> 01:51:29,110
seeing that we were, you know, it was now going to be allowable to,
To defer that until the roads were completed.

914
01:51:35,550 --> 01:51:35,550
we then entered into that discussion with the auditor and the tax collector to create a
Process for that developer to essentially back out of the commitments they had

915
01:51:45,310 --> 01:51:45,310
already made and, and take advantage of the new process we'd identified,
Wherein they would not pay their assessments until their roads had been accepted

916
01:51:55,190 --> 01:51:55,190
by the county and that, you know that was a process that's been in place for some time
Now.

917
01:52:00,990 --> 01:52:04,550
well over a year. That process has been in place. And the developer is aware of it. For whatever reason,
The developer has chosen not to take advantage of that process.

918
01:52:11,910 --> 01:52:15,270
and so that's kind of leads us where we're at now. Lassen mountain pines, even though the roads are not constructed is paying the full
Maintenance assessment.

919
01:52:21,790 --> 01:52:25,390
or is being assessed that full maintenance assessment. Are there any other zones that are in a similar situation where the roads are not
Currently built,

920
01:52:30,830 --> 01:52:34,390
but they are paying the full maintenance assessment? There are no other ones. There was one in shingletown that was he,
He, the developer had he was got tax bills on those a couple of years ago.

921
01:52:42,430 --> 01:52:46,190
and I think he got in again. Yeah. That is the that's the last of mountain pines. That is the the development we're speaking of.

922
01:52:49,230 --> 01:52:49,230
gotcha. And in terms of the parcel charge here,
That is so

923
01:52:59,150 --> 01:52:59,150
that's determined by the maintenance agreement that is is signed by the developer.

924
01:53:03,990 --> 01:53:03,990
that is correct. The department depending, you know,
There are variabilities that go into it,

925
01:53:08,430 --> 01:53:12,230
the how much road, how many culverts, you know,
All that type of stuff. The department develops the maintenance cost estimate during the during the processing of
The subdivision map,

926
01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:19,280
we present that to the developer. They sort of they they accept that.

927
01:53:23,480 --> 01:53:23,480
they certify that when they as part of the acceptance of their map.

928
01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:31,000
that's helpful. And I'm not suggesting necessarily that this is the right idea,
But I'm just kind of trying to understand the process here of if,

929
01:53:38,120 --> 01:53:38,120
for example, in this case, the parcel charge is $691 per parcel.

930
01:53:44,600 --> 01:53:44,600
and you mentioned that the paper prd costs where the roads aren't built.

931
01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:52,920
it's just ensuring an administration is like $13.16. Correct. If the board were to say, okay, well,
The roads aren't built in this case, let's just change it to the paper prd rate.

932
01:54:01,640 --> 01:54:01,640
then if the roads were built, would that trigger going back to the 691 or how would that
Work?

933
01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:07,840
yeah. So in the process that we developed with this particular developer,
Once the roads once the county accepted the roads as complete

934
01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:18,000
then yes, the following tax year, the full maintenance assessment would begin.

935
01:54:22,720 --> 01:54:22,720
okay. And then the last clarification is I know that the agreement,
Essentially that that was offered to the developer would have changed that

936
01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:35,040
kind of retroactively going back to the beginning. Yeah. If we were to say, for example, change the parcel charge today for going forward,
That would only affect this year.

937
01:54:41,320 --> 01:54:41,320
so all the past years would still be under the previous parcel charge.

938
01:54:46,400 --> 01:54:46,400
that that is my understanding. Again, there's some legalities here.

939
01:54:51,960 --> 01:54:55,080
that, that I may not, you know, have the answers to all of them. And it would, it would require some careful consideration.

940
01:54:58,400 --> 01:54:58,400
I believe by the auditor and county council. Okay.

941
01:55:03,360 --> 01:55:03,360
thank you. Supervisor. Harmon. Hi, john. I'm constantly running into this.

942
01:55:12,520 --> 01:55:15,720
I think you already know where I'm going to go. But. Surprise! Well, one of them might be for noel to the monies that's assessed

943
01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:26,520
per year per parcel for these prds. That money's put into one bulk fund.

944
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:37,160
they're all. They're all accounted for separately. They are all accounted for separately. The money is tracked separately,
And it can only be used within the prd from which it was collected.

945
01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:44,880
okay. I'm only asking these questions for clarification for constituents.

946
01:55:50,120 --> 01:55:50,120
but and I, I get this pretty regularly is so,
So a lot of this clarification is for me.

947
01:55:59,080 --> 01:55:59,080
but also for the people, but the, what's the process when you're on a prd road and you got
A

948
01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:12,210
pothole and you'd like to get it fixed? Yeah. You just call public works, right? So and we prioritize it with all the rest of our
Maintenance.

949
01:56:19,330 --> 01:56:23,170
so general small maintenance projects like potholes,
Stuff like that. We do that work with our crews with our road crews that we've got you know,
Out and operating every day of the week.

950
01:56:32,330 --> 01:56:35,250
larger projects that would require more time and effort. We do put those out to public works contract,
So put them out to bid, but for a pothole or maintenance on a sign or something like that,

951
01:56:43,570 --> 01:56:43,570
you would just call us if it's, if it's a little bigger project,
Say there's, you know, the asphalt is coming apart and it needs to get

952
01:56:53,170 --> 01:56:53,170
overlaid. How's that handled? The same way through a public works project typically.

953
01:57:00,290 --> 01:57:00,290
right? I'm going to, I'm going to guess that this is a bigger scope of work.

954
01:57:04,490 --> 01:57:04,490
and if you recall during the presentation, to kind of laid that process out.

955
01:57:11,090 --> 01:57:11,090
and what we tend to do is we tend to kind of we accumulate these projects a little bit
Over time so that we realize some

956
01:57:21,090 --> 01:57:21,090
efficiencies based on the scale of work doesn't always make sense to go out to a public
Works contract for one single prd for one small scope of work.

957
01:57:30,410 --> 01:57:30,410
so there's a couple of things that happen. The prd are,
Are, are accumulating monies over time.

958
01:57:39,130 --> 01:57:39,130
sometimes they may not have the funds available to do the scope of work that they need.

959
01:57:43,650 --> 01:57:43,650
so again, you need time to accumulate those funds.

960
01:57:48,210 --> 01:57:48,210
and then again, we tend to, you know, every couple of years,
We put out a kind of an aggregate project that addresses multiple prd

961
01:57:58,610 --> 01:57:58,610
which creates a higher efficiency. And we believe a cost savings for the,
For the prd.

962
01:58:07,940 --> 01:58:07,940
so how far behind are we keeping up with requests?

963
01:58:13,500 --> 01:58:13,500
you know, I would tell you on the day to day maintenance,
I think we are mr..

964
01:58:18,420 --> 01:58:18,420
so we're only here on fees if you want to bring it back to find out more about projects,
We can,

965
01:58:24,020 --> 01:58:24,020
we can do that. Okay. Supervisor. Crye. Thank you.

966
01:58:28,100 --> 01:58:31,940
supervisor. Are you done? Apparently. Go ahead. You got to stick to the agenda. Yeah. I'm done.

967
01:58:34,460 --> 01:58:34,460
all right. I just had a quick question. The when it's collected for pr,
Does it go into a prd fund or is it just for that specific project.

968
01:58:41,820 --> 01:58:45,660
it's for that specific project, right. It's for that specific prd. They're not necessarily allocated to a single project within the prd,
But they are allocated to a single prd.

969
01:58:52,500 --> 01:58:52,500
so we couldn't collect money and a prd in bernie and then spend it on a prd in cottonwood.

970
01:58:57,660 --> 01:58:57,660
I just wanted to make sure I yeah, you know,
It's kind of like in some variants, it's like the impact fee stuff like we've still not

971
01:59:06,180 --> 01:59:06,180
spent that down. And you made a comment. I was walking in the back because I have to walk
Because of my neuropathy,

972
01:59:11,860 --> 01:59:11,860
but paying attention. And you had mentioned that you know,
I, I don't exactly remember how you termed it,

973
01:59:19,340 --> 01:59:22,580
but you said it's you know, save it for a rainy day. Not a big deal. But what I've seen with the impact fee component is you've had people that
Have,

974
01:59:27,700 --> 01:59:27,700
you know, moved here, paid a fee, have moved away,
You know, eight, ten, 12 years later.

975
01:59:33,060 --> 01:59:36,860
and the money that they spent. Yeah, never was used. And I have a problem with that. But anyway, that's throwing it in there before county
Council shuts it down because that's not about the prd fees,

976
01:59:44,740 --> 01:59:44,740
about impact fees. Sure. Yeah, I just I just have a hard time the collecting money for the
Rainy day,

977
01:59:50,780 --> 01:59:50,780
which I get, we have to do that because, you know,
We have to think about the future and impact.

978
01:59:58,100 --> 02:00:01,220
however, maintenance is a little bit different than growth. I mean, we're not going to see the growth that still that whatever you call it,
I forget what the name of the document was,

979
02:00:09,830 --> 02:00:12,990
but, you know, we're never going to be 250,000 people in shasta county. All right. Thank you, john. Appreciate you. Thank you.

980
02:00:15,510 --> 02:00:15,510
john. I will open the public hearing now. Miss angel,
Do we have any public comment?

981
02:00:20,830 --> 02:00:20,830
there is one public commenter. But I do have to state that any and all correspondence
Received is on file and available to the public through the clerk,

982
02:00:28,310 --> 02:00:28,310
the board. Thank you. Our speaker is shasta county watchdog.

983
02:00:33,070 --> 02:00:33,070
goodness. Nice

984
02:00:43,070 --> 02:00:46,150
to know, kevin, how you treat me. When I get up here. I see you giving signs to what's his name over there.

985
02:00:49,990 --> 02:00:49,990
but anyways, do we have any cars for sale here?

986
02:00:55,510 --> 02:00:55,510
because to me it sounds like he's trying to sell us what he put together.

987
02:01:00,270 --> 02:01:00,270
not trying to be disrespectful, but I'm being honest.

988
02:01:05,270 --> 02:01:09,110
so it sounds like to me there's going to be more taxes. And especially when you talk about bonds, bonds are meaning that you got to you got to tax
The taxpayers to be able to pay

989
02:01:19,030 --> 02:01:19,030
to be able to have these bonds. I mean, more property taxes are going to be taxed on the
Citizens.

990
02:01:26,510 --> 02:01:26,510
and what are we going to do? Save for save it,
Collect it and save it for a rainy day.

991
02:01:32,630 --> 02:01:32,630
I mean, what happened to the old days? We didn't we didn't need to come up with bonds or
Anything.

992
02:01:38,990 --> 02:01:42,710
we didn't have cars or all these fancy stuff before. We had dirt and roads and horses. So I mean,
It's ridiculous.

993
02:01:48,190 --> 02:01:48,190
the government, again, here we are trying to come up with how to make money off the
Citizens property taxes,

994
02:01:56,070 --> 02:01:56,070
rezoning. And, you know, let's make some more money rezoning this certain area so we could
Taxpayers,

995
02:02:03,480 --> 02:02:03,480
you know, charge taxes. When is this going to stop?

996
02:02:08,400 --> 02:02:08,400
I mean, you guys have the duty to protect the citizens when you should,
When you don't, you don't.

997
02:02:16,040 --> 02:02:16,040
and you make bad decisions that you actually affect the citizens.

998
02:02:20,560 --> 02:02:20,560
so, I mean, are you just going to go along with everything that staff says?

999
02:02:26,600 --> 02:02:26,600
how many times have I heard you guys in the past complain how what staff does and brings
Forward?

1000
02:02:31,880 --> 02:02:34,480
you hate it. You're not going to rubber stamp it. That's. All right. With that, I'll close the public hearing.

1001
02:02:40,960 --> 02:02:40,960
bring it back. I will supervisor plummer. Yes,
Well, I did want to just make one comment.

1002
02:02:47,440 --> 02:02:47,440
and john, you mentioned this too, but your presentation back in was that july or late?

1003
02:02:54,160 --> 02:02:54,160
late june, correct? Yeah. Did have for each of the prds,
What maintenance, what year's maintenance projects have been done,

1004
02:03:01,800 --> 02:03:05,360
and you know how many funds have accrued and all that,
Which I think was super helpful. And so I would encourage people to refer back to that as a reference point there.

1005
02:03:11,480 --> 02:03:11,480
and the just to kind of wrap the conversation on lassen pines meadows there,
It looks like because I was thinking,

1006
02:03:21,400 --> 02:03:21,400
you know, while the agreement has been proposed to kind of retroactively address that,
If we were to change it today,

1007
02:03:28,520 --> 02:03:31,960
since the roads haven't been built, then that would make logical sense to me. It looks like, and I was just messaging with county counsel about this,
That we would have to change that maintenance agreement first before being able to kind of

1008
02:03:41,120 --> 02:03:41,120
change that to a paper prd. And so that's still dependent on the developer.

1009
02:03:45,560 --> 02:03:45,560
so I'm not going to, you know, go that direction given kind of the legal counsel on it.

1010
02:03:52,760 --> 02:03:52,760
so I would make a motion that we approve the parcel charges,
As is documented here.

1011
02:04:00,880 --> 02:04:04,320
all right. Do I have a second? Second motion made by supervisor plummer. Second by supervisor long supervisor crye. Did you want to vote or did you want to make
Some comments?

1012
02:04:09,200 --> 02:04:09,200
well, I just wanted to so so cast. Okay, I'm.

1013
02:04:16,960 --> 02:04:19,200
you probably don't have any prds I have none. That's why I'm looking at like costilla, jones valley.

1014
02:04:22,160 --> 02:04:22,160
yeah, you might be looking at r5. I could be wrong,
But.

1015
02:04:28,720 --> 02:04:32,720
yeah, I am. That's a csa, not a yeah, I know. Okay, so with that, I mean, are what we are,
What we're doing here is this pretty normal with the other counties?

1016
02:04:38,880 --> 02:04:42,840
because again, both these items, like district one is,
Is different. Yeah. So sure. I mean, is it are we like right in the middle?

1017
02:04:46,640 --> 02:04:49,840
are we on one end or the other of an extreme? No, this is pretty common. So the permanent road division requirements and criteria.

1018
02:04:55,330 --> 02:04:55,330
they're laid out in state code, right? So this is a program that the state has provided
For the maintenance of these,

1019
02:05:02,930 --> 02:05:02,930
you know, non county maintained roads. So in my experience,
Most california counties take advantage of the press now.

1020
02:05:12,730 --> 02:05:12,730
now whether or not they require all of their new subdivisions to be appeared,
You mean by take advantage of,

1021
02:05:18,330 --> 02:05:18,330
allow for and have press. Okay. Okay. Yeah I'm good.

1022
02:05:22,930 --> 02:05:25,610
thank you. Thank you chair. All right. Supervisor. Harmon. Watching you are for yeah I know, I know,
So I'll note real quick that we

1023
02:05:35,570 --> 02:05:35,570
do have a prd maintenance contract coming out this summer where we'll be addressing some
Of the bigger maintenance projects on on premise.

1024
02:05:43,770 --> 02:05:43,770
no, no, I'm watching for you. So my so my question,
Though, is what if we can't if we're not keeping up because we got,

1025
02:05:52,330 --> 02:05:52,330
you know, 1 or 2 crews and I get it there, but we have the money sitting there.

1026
02:05:58,330 --> 02:05:58,330
yeah. Can we farm it out? We do farm it out and it not in all cases.

1027
02:06:03,650 --> 02:06:06,010
we don't just always have the money sitting there. Right. Some pretty. So the way the assessments work,
I mean, road maintenance is expensive,

1028
02:06:11,290 --> 02:06:11,290
right? So the way the assessments work, they generally are based on like a 15 or 20 year
Plan,

1029
02:06:18,690 --> 02:06:22,690
right? Where and it's really to rehabilitate the road. And so the assessment over the course of time collects the money to do work at that 15
Year mark.

1030
02:06:30,970 --> 02:06:34,810
sometimes it's warranted, sometimes it's not. You know, there we, we could, we could spend the better part of the,
Of the morning talking about prices,

1031
02:06:40,730 --> 02:06:40,730
because the fees typically become fixed in time when we,
When we set the assessments costs do not.

1032
02:06:48,330 --> 02:06:48,330
so typically over time costs are increasing. The assessments remain the same.

1033
02:06:54,220 --> 02:06:54,220
that requires more time on our part to collect the required fees.

1034
02:07:00,980 --> 02:07:00,980
and you know, we're not necessarily, and I may I apologize if I gave the wrong impression
By the idea of the rainy,

1035
02:07:07,620 --> 02:07:07,620
the rainy day. We're not necessarily just sitting back waiting on these,
We, we take the maintenance of these seriously and,

1036
02:07:14,860 --> 02:07:14,860
and we do what we can with the resources we have available all the time.

1037
02:07:23,380 --> 02:07:23,380
okay. Thank you. Our phones are going to ring.

1038
02:07:28,060 --> 02:07:28,060
well, yeah, I mean, what supervisor. Harmon. So like,
I know you deal with this directly,

1039
02:07:33,580 --> 02:07:33,580
but like when you talk about the money sitting there because I know because again,
The impact fee money has been sitting there.

1040
02:07:40,660 --> 02:07:44,540
miss short, do you have any do you have any thoughts? Well when he says it's sitting
There. So kevin, if you have a brand new subdivision and you assess the prds on it,
But the roads are perfectly fine for 4 or 5,

1041
02:07:50,900 --> 02:07:53,420
6 or 7 years. I mean, if they might have a pothole here. But what about the ten and 12 years in the 14? And that's when they repave those
Subdivisions. That's when they go in and put the overlay or whatever they need done.

1042
02:08:00,540 --> 02:08:04,460
yeah. Miss short. Good morning chair. Chair kelstrom members of the board and all the
Short. Auditor. Controller. I think the only thing that I would say is that,
You know, these are these are dependent special districts.

1043
02:08:10,180 --> 02:08:13,300
so they need to function in and of themselves each party. And the problem becomes when there's road maintenance needed and there's not money there.

1044
02:08:17,900 --> 02:08:17,900
and so what they're doing is they're really building up a reserve that's going to allow
Them to maintain the road.

1045
02:08:23,140 --> 02:08:23,140
it won't be spent for anything else. Can't be used for anything else. So it really is
Earmarked for that district for its need when and if that time comes.

1046
02:08:31,380 --> 02:08:31,380
and for those that are, you know, not part of,
You know, a prd and they have a private road somewhere.

1047
02:08:36,340 --> 02:08:39,140
when the time comes, you spend $10,000 this year. And so it's really kind of a payment plan for those people in the district.

1048
02:08:43,500 --> 02:08:46,470
and I would say that it's also approved by the voters. So, you know, although in this case, there's,
You know, for lassen mountain, there's 38 properties or 39 properties.

1049
02:08:52,310 --> 02:08:56,310
there were 39 votes that said yes to that fee at the time that that was developed. And so you know, and then now it's, it's prop 218 after this as far as like,
If we're going to increase it,

1050
02:09:02,590 --> 02:09:02,590
it needs to go back to the voters. It needs to go through his protest process and needs to
Do all of that.

1051
02:09:07,430 --> 02:09:07,430
and so it's not something that the county is imposing on,
On the districts necessarily.

1052
02:09:12,390 --> 02:09:12,390
we do we do calculate what we think the fee will be in order to replace the road in the 10
Or 15 year time period.

1053
02:09:20,230 --> 02:09:20,230
so that fee calculation is done by public works,
But then it's approved by the voters of that of that district.

1054
02:09:27,830 --> 02:09:27,830
I mean, because if you're in a subdivision that has ten homes and then for the first eight
Years and then has 70 homes in the back ten years,

1055
02:09:36,830 --> 02:09:40,550
it's a huge difference of road wear and tear. And who's paying for that? But yeah, it does become very difficult in the case of lassen
Lassen mountain because it is a voter approved.

1056
02:09:48,230 --> 02:09:48,230
I also can't take it off the voter roll, which is the difficulty we're having with the
Consent and waiver.

1057
02:09:53,510 --> 02:09:53,510
there needs to be a new consent waiver that's backdated to invalidate the first one.

1058
02:09:57,830 --> 02:09:57,830
otherwise, there's some really strict legal requirements for removing stuff from the tax
Roll.

1059
02:10:01,990 --> 02:10:05,990
and so I can't just go in and do that because it seems like it makes sense. So we're trying to come up with a path to give him a way out of this that,
You know, would basically make an amended consent waiver that would give us the authority

1060
02:10:14,750 --> 02:10:17,550
to remove it and then have a new path forward. So you are the swiss army knife of all electeds,
Because you can come up here and any department and speak to us.

1061
02:10:22,870 --> 02:10:25,870
thank you. That was great. Did you still want to ask you? Oh, no. That was super helpful. All right. With that,
We have a motion by supervisor plummer, seconded by supervisor long.

1062
02:10:31,830 --> 02:10:31,830
all those in favor? Aye, aye. Any opposed? Passes 5 0.

1063
02:10:36,110 --> 02:10:36,110
all right, mr. Heath r 5 now is your kevin. Yep.

1064
02:10:43,120 --> 02:10:43,120
yep. So continuing on with the concept of parcel charges this time we're going to talk
About parcel charges for county

1065
02:10:52,840 --> 02:10:52,840
service areas or csas. Csas provide for a variety of services throughout again,

1066
02:11:02,800 --> 02:11:02,800
much like a prd through discrete zones located throughout the county.

1067
02:11:08,240 --> 02:11:08,240
today we'll be talking about water, wastewater,
Stormwater and street lighting.

1068
02:11:13,720 --> 02:11:13,720
so public works has csas that account for all of those services.

1069
02:11:19,880 --> 02:11:19,880
again, referring back to county code. Annually,
We're required to develop a list of assessments that apply to those parcel assessments

1070
02:11:29,800 --> 02:11:33,720
that apply to each of those csas providing those services. We bring them here to the board. We hold a public hearing and hopefully the board adopts
Them.

1071
02:11:41,240 --> 02:11:41,240
regarding the parcels in this, this action there are,
I'm sorry, the, the fees or the intent of these parcel charges.

1072
02:11:49,680 --> 02:11:49,680
there is a variety of different kind of service areas or bins that we're looking at.

1073
02:11:57,480 --> 02:11:57,480
there are delinquent water and wastewater fees,
Uncollectible water and wastewater fees.

1074
02:12:04,520 --> 02:12:08,120
and then what I would call miscellaneous csa fees. Those include capital improvement fees standby fees,
Stormwater maintenance fees and street lighting.

1075
02:12:17,160 --> 02:12:17,160
so the first thing I'm going to, we kind of lumped them all here in a single item,
But they're actually kind of the three discrete areas.

1076
02:12:22,960 --> 02:12:22,960
so I'm going to talk first about delinquent water and wastewater accounts and those fees.

1077
02:12:28,160 --> 02:12:28,160
so the county has a number of csas that offer water and wastewater services.

1078
02:12:35,040 --> 02:12:35,040
we bill for those services bi monthly every two months.

1079
02:12:40,520 --> 02:12:40,520
if you don't pay your bill those those charges go become delinquent after one billing
Cycle or 60 days.

1080
02:12:50,000 --> 02:12:50,000
annually, we bring an item to the board to place those delinquent accounts that are unpaid
At this time to place those delinquent accounts on

1081
02:13:00,640 --> 02:13:00,640
as a partial assessment so that those delinquent fees are collected essentially as part of
The property taxes.

1082
02:13:10,640 --> 02:13:10,640
for the current period, the delinquent fees partial report shows that there are just under
$177,000 in

1083
02:13:20,240 --> 02:13:20,240
delinquent csa fees. So in addition to just the normal billing notices

1084
02:13:30,200 --> 02:13:30,200
that every customer gets prior to bringing this item today each account holder that has
Delinquent fees was notified in a letter.

1085
02:13:39,770 --> 02:13:39,770
they were given time to to come to the department and bring their accounts up to date.

1086
02:13:46,850 --> 02:13:46,850
the the parcels that are on the parcel report failed to do that.

1087
02:13:52,410 --> 02:13:55,970
and so these delinquent fees are still outstanding. And so that is the delinquent fees parcel report.

1088
02:14:03,090 --> 02:14:03,090
I'm going to move on to the uncollected fees,
Water and wastewater fees parcel report the second of three.

1089
02:14:11,170 --> 02:14:11,170
so once the delinquent fees or once the delinquent fees are determined to be added to the
Parcel report,

1090
02:14:17,290 --> 02:14:20,570
sometimes they are still not able to be collected. That often happens when the property changes ownership.

1091
02:14:24,570 --> 02:14:24,570
the property might change ownership or it may go into foreclosure.

1092
02:14:29,970 --> 02:14:29,970
at that point the county because the owner has changed,
We no longer have the ability to collect those fees.

1093
02:14:37,050 --> 02:14:37,050
california government code provides that the board of supervisors can discharge those
Uncollectible fees.

1094
02:14:44,930 --> 02:14:44,930
and so that is the intent of the uncollectible debts parcel report.

1095
02:14:51,490 --> 02:14:51,490
you'll see that that report references that there are $1,271 and change in uncollected
Debts for parcels that are

1096
02:15:01,450 --> 02:15:05,410
no longer in the original owner's ownership anymore. So for parcels within that parcel report, we'd be asking the board to discharge those
Debts.

1097
02:15:12,610 --> 02:15:12,610
the final parcel report is the one I referred to as miscellaneous csa charges.

1098
02:15:18,610 --> 02:15:18,610
there are just under $5,000 in parcel assessments within county service area number two,
Which is the sugar loaf water district.

1099
02:15:28,610 --> 02:15:28,610
those parcel assessments are earmarked for capital improvements or operations costs within
That district.

1100
02:15:36,260 --> 02:15:36,260
again, these were approved by the parcels by the residents within that district.

1101
02:15:44,300 --> 02:15:44,300
moving on. There are within the elk elk trail subdivision of the jones valley county
Service area,

1102
02:15:53,340 --> 02:15:53,340
number six, again a water district. There are $11,640 in parcel assessments that are
Earmarked as standby charges

1103
02:16:03,180 --> 02:16:03,180
for parcels within that subdivision that are not hooked up to the water system.

1104
02:16:08,580 --> 02:16:08,580
again the, the parcel, the owners within that district have approved these fees originally
Moving

1105
02:16:20,340 --> 02:16:20,340
on to stormwater we have three stormwater service areas,
All located in the burn area.

1106
02:16:27,540 --> 02:16:27,540
again created when, when subdivisions were, were built,
The subdivisions required you know,

1107
02:16:34,460 --> 02:16:34,460
something out of the ordinary and the maintenance of their stormwater and conveyance of
Their stormwater, they might have stormwater pipes. Sometimes they have infiltration

1108
02:16:42,060 --> 02:16:42,060
basins various items like that that require our maintenance.

1109
02:16:46,740 --> 02:16:46,740
and so when the subdivision was created we created a stormwater csa.

1110
02:16:51,500 --> 02:16:51,500
and again, there's an assigned parcel charge that was approved by the subdivision owners
At the time of creation.

1111
02:16:59,420 --> 02:16:59,420
finally street lighting. So there are, there's a single county wide street lighting csa
Within that,

1112
02:17:08,060 --> 02:17:08,060
there are about 31 different lighting zones. Street lighting is not required generally by
The county public works

1113
02:17:17,900 --> 02:17:17,900
does some street lighting on our own particularly along arterials and collectors and
Particularly at intersections.

1114
02:17:26,260 --> 02:17:26,260
but other than that in the rural county, you'll find most often there are no street
Lighting that that applies even within subdivisions.

1115
02:17:33,670 --> 02:17:33,670
if a subdivider. If a subdivision developer decides they want to have street lighting
There,

1116
02:17:39,550 --> 02:17:39,550
they're given the opportunity to join the street lighting csa when they create their their
Subdivision or even retroactively.

1117
02:17:48,750 --> 02:17:48,750
and again these assessments have all been approved by the residents or the parcel owners
Within this district.

1118
02:17:56,430 --> 02:17:56,430
and that money goes towards the maintenance and operation of street lighting throughout
The county.

1119
02:18:02,830 --> 02:18:02,830
just a real quick circle back around just to let you know,
None of these parcel assessments are changing.

1120
02:18:08,110 --> 02:18:08,110
they've all been approved initially by the parcel owners at the time and no changes
Proposed.

1121
02:18:17,870 --> 02:18:17,870
with that concludes my report. Happy to take any questions.

1122
02:18:22,230 --> 02:18:22,230
supervisor. Harmon. Just a quick question. That elk trail.

1123
02:18:27,790 --> 02:18:27,790
yeah. Some of the parcels opted out. They're not taking the service.

1124
02:18:35,670 --> 02:18:38,550
yeah. Does that mean they drilled the well? Yeah. So elk trail subdivision existed prior to the prior to jones valley supplying water up
There.

1125
02:18:45,790 --> 02:18:45,790
and at which point all of this all of the parcels were served by their own.

1126
02:18:50,830 --> 02:18:50,830
well. Over time, what happened was that some of those wells provided or proved to be
Unreliable.

1127
02:18:58,750 --> 02:18:58,750
and there was a request that came into the county to extend water service to,
To that subdivision.

1128
02:19:05,830 --> 02:19:05,830
at that time we did that. Some parcel owners opted to not connect,
But they consented to paying a standby charge.

1129
02:19:15,270 --> 02:19:15,270
because essentially the water line is at their property line available for them to
Connect.

1130
02:19:21,750 --> 02:19:21,750
thank you. Supervisor. Plummer. Yes. Thanks,
John, for the presentation.

1131
02:19:28,350 --> 02:19:31,790
the. The first question I had was related to. Of the delinquent fees. Am I right to look at.

1132
02:19:36,550 --> 02:19:40,070
I was wondering like, what percent of the delinquent fees do we end up collecting? And it looks like if I compare the uncollectible debt to the delinquent fees,
Like because the delinquent fees are like 175,000 uncollectible debt is

1133
02:19:49,030 --> 02:19:49,030
$1,000. So does that mean that we're collecting almost all of those delinquent fees over
Time?

1134
02:19:55,430 --> 02:19:55,430
yeah, that would be my impression. And I'll tell you,
And again, this might be a question for nola,

1135
02:20:01,910 --> 02:20:01,910
but once they go on the tax rolls, they become eligible for payment via the teeter plan.

1136
02:20:08,190 --> 02:20:08,190
so even if they go unpaid by the property owner,
I believe eventually the teeter plan makes makes those fees whole.

1137
02:20:18,390 --> 02:20:18,390
noel is nodding. Yes. Okay. All right. And then sorry,
Two other questions.

1138
02:20:23,800 --> 02:20:23,800
one is when I when I go to the csa cabinet meetings and there is,
I think in all three of the ones that I attend

1139
02:20:33,240 --> 02:20:33,240
regularly, the there's the operations budget and you have that one sheet with the
Finances.

1140
02:20:37,560 --> 02:20:37,560
and then there's the capital improvement budget. So for those that don't have a capital
Improvement fee like

1141
02:20:47,360 --> 02:20:47,360
sugarloaf, so castello and jones valley don't have that fee on here aside from the elk
Trail piece.

1142
02:20:54,400 --> 02:20:54,400
is that completely funded? Then the capital improvement budget,
Is that completely funded by grants or are there other funding sources going into that?

1143
02:21:04,200 --> 02:21:04,200
well the water agency often contributes to the operations and improvement of the csas.

1144
02:21:12,840 --> 02:21:12,840
but yes other than that, the only funding available would be grants or loans.

1145
02:21:18,120 --> 02:21:18,120
there are a number of csas that have usda loans for infrastructure.

1146
02:21:23,800 --> 02:21:23,800
so but that is correct. And then so does that mean that when we're doing the right
Studies,

1147
02:21:29,680 --> 02:21:29,680
which I know there's a few ongoing or coming up that essentially the cost of capital
Improvements is being

1148
02:21:39,480 --> 02:21:39,480
built or needs to be built into that if there isn't a corresponding partial charge to
Cover capital improvements.

1149
02:21:46,280 --> 02:21:46,280
that is correct. You know, the, the, the rates are subject to a prop.

1150
02:21:53,840 --> 02:21:53,840
218 so I, my, my understanding is that historically there we've had some rates where we've
Tried to implement rates,

1151
02:22:02,440 --> 02:22:02,440
maybe even in some of the csas that you're referring to that were rejected.

1152
02:22:07,200 --> 02:22:07,200
which then by the, by the property owners, which then,
You know, may you know, bring about a kind of a negotiation on what an

1153
02:22:17,080 --> 02:22:17,080
equitable rate is. And often I think what I've seen is that one of the first things that
Goes is the capital improvements.

1154
02:22:24,570 --> 02:22:24,570
yeah, that makes sense. I think castella rejected their rates through a 218 process a few
Years ago,

1155
02:22:29,570 --> 02:22:29,570
and that's correct. Now they've gotten water agency dollars,
I think, to the tune of like $50,000 per year the last 2 to 3 years.

1156
02:22:37,010 --> 02:22:37,010
and is the water. Could you just remind us, I think this came up during the budget
Hearings, but what is the intended purpose of which I know is,

1157
02:22:43,890 --> 02:22:43,890
is dictated by that assessment in terms of like,
What are the allowable uses for water agency revenue?

1158
02:22:51,650 --> 02:22:55,530
my understanding, and this is a very broad statement. The beneficial uses of water within shasta county.

1159
02:22:59,410 --> 02:22:59,410
okay. Okay. Thank you. All right. With that,
I will open up the public hearing.

1160
02:23:05,650 --> 02:23:08,570
miss angel, do we have all correspondence on file? Yes, chair. Any and all correspondence received is on file and available to the public
Through the clerk of the board.

1161
02:23:14,450 --> 02:23:18,050
and do we have any public speakers? No. Chair,
No public speakers. All right. With that, I'll close the the hearing and I will entertain a motion for
Approval of the.

1162
02:23:26,090 --> 02:23:26,090
adopt the resolution. I'll make a motion to adopt the resolution,
Which confirms the reports of delinquent fees and liens being placed on the csa tax

1163
02:23:35,690 --> 02:23:35,690
bills, as well as the reports of uncollectible debts and the annual parcel charges.

1164
02:23:40,410 --> 02:23:40,410
okay. Do I have a second? Second. Second by supervisor harmon.

1165
02:23:44,490 --> 02:23:47,850
motion made by supervisor plummer. I think the second by supervisor. That was okay. Okay. Supervisor lawn made the second.

1166
02:23:52,050 --> 02:23:55,330
all those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Passes 5 0. Thank you, john. Appreciate it. All right. With that we will be going to closed session.

1167
02:24:00,530 --> 02:24:00,530
do we have any public comment on closed session?

1168
02:24:04,650 --> 02:24:04,650
yes, chair. Give me one moment. Why don't we crye.

1169
02:24:11,210 --> 02:24:11,210
mr.. Why don't we just give noel, like, an honorary seat up here somewhere,
Right?

1170
02:24:17,100 --> 02:24:20,180
and then she. She can be. He even brought her in. Okay, let's get miss angel. Do we have any guests?

1171
02:24:23,900 --> 02:24:23,900
two speakers up. First shasta county watchdog,
Followed by christine bagley.

1172
02:24:31,980 --> 02:24:31,980
regarding closed session. And I pulled up the document for the federal courts for the
United states district court,

1173
02:24:41,300 --> 02:24:41,300
eastern district of california. The complaint I want to I want to go just read some of
The.

1174
02:24:47,740 --> 02:24:47,740
what the complaints about. Discrimination based on race color fail to prevent
Discrimination,

1175
02:24:56,820 --> 02:24:56,820
harassment and retaliation in violation and feha international international infliction of
Emotional distress.

1176
02:25:06,820 --> 02:25:06,820
retaliation in violation of california labor code 02.5

1177
02:25:15,900 --> 02:25:15,900
discrimination based on disability and violation of americans with disability act.

1178
02:25:23,780 --> 02:25:23,780
so there's quite a few things and these are for closed session.

1179
02:25:28,900 --> 02:25:28,900
I find this very interesting because this is actually exactly what you guys do

1180
02:25:38,860 --> 02:25:38,860
to us. And this is a federal lawsuit. So I downloaded the whole thing because I was going
Through this and I'm

1181
02:25:48,420 --> 02:25:48,420
thinking I'm not the only person. We're not the only person who gets harassed and gets
Discrimination discriminated by public

1182
02:25:58,020 --> 02:25:58,020
officials. And this lawsuit is against you, the county and other names here.

1183
02:26:04,140 --> 02:26:04,140
I see. So this is ongoing of discrimination in this county,
Including by you officials.

1184
02:26:12,670 --> 02:26:12,670
so there's potential here for other lawsuits to be brought into the county.

1185
02:26:18,950 --> 02:26:18,950
and this will be federal, not just local, where we have one judge to making decisions.

1186
02:26:25,390 --> 02:26:25,390
so there will be more lawsuits coming and there will be filed in federal.

1187
02:26:30,350 --> 02:26:30,350
and that will be what I'll be looking into. All right.

1188
02:26:35,630 --> 02:26:39,190
and with that we will go to closed session. Estimated time is 30 minutes. We will not be back. Chair, can I just confirm that christine begley is not present? Oh,
I'm sorry, christine begley is not present. Okay. Thank you.

1189
02:26:46,150 --> 02:26:46,150
I'm sorry. So estimated time, 30 minutes. So we will not be back before a quarter to noon.

1190
02:26:54,870 --> 02:26:54,870
no. Okay. Coming back from closed session. Counsel larmer.

1191
02:26:59,510 --> 02:26:59,510
do we have anything to report? Mr. Chairman,
Item r six was heard in closed session.

1192
02:27:03,870 --> 02:27:03,870
there is no reportable action. All right, with that,
This meeting is adjourned.

1193
02:27:08,990 --> 02:27:08,990
thank you all. Nice.