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All right. Good evening. The hour of
6:00 has arrived. I will call the 10th

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regular common council meeting to order.
Will the deputy clerk call the role?

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» Alder person Boris
>> here.

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» Alder person Ber
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» Alder person Close
>> here.

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» Alder person Decker
>> here. Older person Gravine

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» here.
>> Alder person Heidman glad to be here.

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» Alder person Kelly
>> here.

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» Alder person Mensor
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» Alder person Mitchell
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» Alder person Pela
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» There are 10 present.
>> Thank you. If everyone could stand for

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the pledge of allegiance.

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» I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.
>> All right, Alder Boris, is there a

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motion to approve the minutes?
>> I move to approve the minutes from the

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9th regular council meeting held on
August 3rd, 2026.

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» Second.
>> Moved and seconded. All those in favor

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of approval of the minutes state I.
>> I. Any.

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» Any opposed? Minutes are approved. Next
is resignations. City attorney.

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» Thank you. Tomomi Kanamaru from the
mayor's international committee

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effective August 23rd 2026.
>> Thank you Alder Bors.

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» I move to accept and file.
>> Second.

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» Moved and seconded. All those in favor
state I.

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» I.
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» Any objections? Hearing none. That is
approved. Item six, city attorney.

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» Bob rank from the housing authority
board effective immediately.

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» Alder Bors.
>> I move to accept and file.

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» Second.
>> Moved and seconded. All those in favor

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state I.
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» Any any objections? Hearing none. That's
approved. Next item seven, appointments.

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City attorney
>> Tracy Brunette to be considered for

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appointment to the board of housing
authority. Brianna Bourne to be

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considered for appointment to the
mayor's international committee. Jess

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Thy thyroan
to be considered for appointment to the

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mayor's international committee.
>> Thank you. Those will lay over till our

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next meeting. Next item eight is an
announcement. Uh, the Board of Water

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Commission will have an election to be
held on September 21st, 2026 for a

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three-year term for the Board of Water
Commissioners beginning on October 1st,

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2026, as well as a 2-year term to
fulfill the unexpired term. uh as well.

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If interested in applying to be
considered for appointment to the board

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of water commissioners, please reach out
to the city council president uh older

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Boris and or uh the city clerk um as
well if you're interested by September

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17th. Thank you. Uh next item nine, we
have a presentation from the sort

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preservation commission which will
postpone uh for a future meeting due to

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a family uh situation by the chair.
Next item 10 is a presentation uh on the

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harbor center marina design by our
friends at Edgewater Resources. So take

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it away.
>> Hello. Thank you very much. Um let's see

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here. Make sure this is [snorts]
showing up properly on the screen. Thank

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you very much. Uh mayor and council.
Appreciate having you and again

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appreciate the opportunity to work with
you in the community of Suben. Um this

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will be a a quick presentation. It
normally takes about an hour and a half

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and I've been asked to do it in 10 or 15
minutes. So, I'm going to go quickly.

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Um, by nature I'm going to have to cover
some things quickly. Ask me any

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questions you like, of course. So, uh,
this is a progress meeting. We're at

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what we call schematic design. So,
everything you're seeing tonight is a

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work in progress. Uh, it will continue
to evolve based on feedback that we

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received from you. We've also had public
feedback on this already and we're

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already making minor modifications as we
go. So, as we dive into this, sorry, get

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this to work.
Um, I'll skip through all of our team

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here, but this is a really important
thing. The goal of this project is to

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refine the waterfront master plan and
build a new marine on waterfront park

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for everyone in this community. That's a
really key factor that guides everything

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that we're doing. Um, there is a
tremendous amount of of issues with what

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you have out there right now with the
ice damage and those sorts of things.

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We're addressing a lot of functional
issues, uh, as well as as transforming

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the way the harbor the harbor works, uh,
for not just the voters, but for the

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entire community. As we jump into this,
we've had a number of public meetings,

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had a lot of community input meetings.
As you can imagine, we received um

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hundreds and hundreds of comments. I
wish that I could respond to every

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single one of them and have everything
everybody wants in one plan. That of

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course is not possible. What our job is
to try to coalate all those things and

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provide the best plan that we can that
meets as many of the goals as possible

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um with the minimum amount of
compromise. We do not want to end up

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with a camel. It's that joke, a camel's
a horse designed by committee. So, we're

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focused on trying to balance all these
competing uses as best we can. Uh,

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inherently, not everybody's going to
agree with all of it, but we're doing

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our best there. Some quick images that
really capture what the community

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responded most positively to. This is
31st Street Harbor in Chicago. Um, and

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what I want to point out here is that is
a waterfront park that has a marina in

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it, which is the goal of what we're
trying to achieve here. as opposed to

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the marina driving every decision. This
is a public waterfront park that drives

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the primary decisions with an excellent
marina that happens to be a part of it,

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happens to be an economic catalyst as
part of it. Everything that you see in

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that picture with the exception of the
floating docks and the dedicated boater

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restrooms is open to the public and
that's our primary goal here for this

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community as well. So, as we jump into
this um thinking about public access,

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again, I'm going quickly on purpose. Um
there is an hour and a half if you're

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interested. Uh there's an hour and a
half presentation online. I'm sure you

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can all watch that if you want the full
detail. Uh we met with a lot of groups,

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a lot of different neighborhood groups,
uh charter captains, yacht clubs, public

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works staff, first responders, as many
people as we could to get as much

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feedback as possible. Uh we've also done
a lot of engineering to address the

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functional issues that exist in the
marina. You know, that there's ice

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damage. I would point out that the docks
that you have there are not faulty in

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any way. They're just passed through
useful life. Just like when you buy a

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car, at some point it just breaks
because it's 20, 30 years old. Most dock

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systems are designed to last 25 to 30
years old. Yours are past that. But

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there are functional issues um that um
physical issues I should say that do

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matter a lot. You're going to see a
whole bunch of images as they go by here

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um that express what's happening with
the water circulation and the ice

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movement. Um if you have questions, I
can go into in more detail. But what we

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do need to do is address the way um when
we have easterly winds, it stacks up low

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currents in or stacks up water in the
outer harbor and that makes currents and

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things happened inside the harbor that
are causing damage. We actually had

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cameras up all winter monitoring the ice
damage and what was exact how the ice

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was moving and where it was damaging
things. We actually have a very good

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idea of video evidence that supports
what our modeling showed. And so what

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you're going to see here as I go by this
is you'll see more and more uh activity

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inside the basin as I zoom past these
and you'll notice you'll start to see

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some areas of red and concentration.
What that red tells us is that's a very

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dynamic environment. And the best way to
pro protect your docks is to not put

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them where that happens. And so one of
the things that we're going to be doing

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is interrupting the size of what we're
going to call the inner harbor by

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introducing a fixed attenuation
structure here. And that breaks up and

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reduces the amount of flow in here. We
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When you see the master plan, you will
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docks there. Um so as we look at this,
that was a big driver. And I can go as

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far into that engineering detail as you
would like. Uh there is also a sand

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intrusion issue along that outer uh
federal breakwater that's owned and

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managed by the core. The core is going
to come in. They built a lot of

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structures in the 80s that allowed
intentionally so that allowed water to

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move through there. That was thought to
be a water quality enhancement. What

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they found pretty rapidly is it allows a
lot of sand to move in and it actually

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creates more problems than it solved.
They are now correcting this at multiple

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harbors, including another one we're
doing at Lexington Harbor in Michigan.

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They're going to be coming here to
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Um, our recommendation to you as we talk
about phasing and constructing this is

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to stay away from that area to let them
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we can come in and occupy that space.
Fortunately, we have plenty of room to

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build all the marina that we need and
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So, quick overview of the harbor design.
I'm going to start with the marina

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because that's kind of where we're at in
the presentation. Then we'll move into

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the upland park design. So, the marina
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is uh the layout is quite different than
what you have today. Very intentionally.

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Again, we talked about that red area.
That's why we have this open body of

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water here and here. We've organized the
marina into two main sections. Um we'll

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call these we call these Christmas trees
just because it's a a single access with

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trees branching off to the side. This is
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This is actually allows for uh
significantly more docking than you have

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now. I'm not recommending that you build
a much bigger marina than you have. I'm

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saying we've planned for growth in the
future if that becomes appropriate. When

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you get to the south end of the marina,
we have a new public pier. That's that

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fixed structure that I told you about.
That will be completely open to the

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public. This is what we call a shopper
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for just about anybody to use. One of
the things that we want to do is be more

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welcoming to our trailer boers. When
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they come back, they put the boat on the
trailer since there's nowhere for them

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to go right now. They put the boat on
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And we want them to be be more welcome
to the town and spend more time. So,

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this is meant to be a courtesy pier
where they can get off the boat, come

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and enjoy all the amenities and go back
out in boating and stay a little bit

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longer and just be more welcoming. Um,
it could also be a place for a cruise

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ship yacht tender for example. It could
be maybe at some point in the future uh

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the charter fisherman if they if the
river doesn't work for them for some

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reason. So, that's a different factor
there. We also have um one of the

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comments from the boating community is
they were very passionate about the

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pool. We're not building a pool. That's
not really that's not something that

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we're doing in public marines these
days. It's very challenging to operate.

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It's also not the most appropriate use.
When we did talk to the voters, one of

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the things that they said about the
pool, it wasn't the swimming so much as

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it was the private space that they had.
They had a dedicated room where they

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could have events that was kind of their
own. And so we've talked about that with

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them. We're actually proposing in four
locations out on the docks um where

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they're dedicated boater only gathering
spaces out on the docks past the gates

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where they want to be. And so we're
we're actually providing more spaces

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than they currently have for that
particular use. The pool use in

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particular is replaced with a splash
pad. So there is still water uses in in

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play and that sort of thing, but it's
all open to the public as opposed to a

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dedicated boater activity in that way.
Uh the only thing that's fully dedicated

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to the boers in this image are the
floating docks, which is understood

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because they're renting that and and
need security. And there will be

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dedicated boater restrooms that are
specific to the boers. That is because a

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boater at 11:00 at night who's got their
child and they're taking a shower. They

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need to be behind a locked door as you
can all imagine. Um there are also many,

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many public restrooms and we'll talk
about that. So that's the quick overview

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of the marina. We're relocating. The
existing boater services building is

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over here and the fuel pier is way down
here. That has created a lot of service

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um issues because it's a you know it's
10 15 minutes somebody calls for fuel

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and you have to send staff all the way
down there. We we're proposing to

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relocate the boater amenities building
and colllocate it with park features.

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I'll show you that building quite a bit
a little bit here. Uh the existing

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building um is quite damaged from uh rot
and mold and other issues. Um could it

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be repaired? Of course, anything can be
repaired from a cost effectiveness

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standpoint. Um, it would be equally or
more expensive to repair than to build

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these new structures that we're
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As we move a little bit closer, here's a
quick uh 3D aerial just to give you a

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sense of it. We'll get to more on this
in detail here.

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Um, just went through all of those
things. We'll go in more detail here.

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This is some of the damage image from
the existing restroom, existing motor

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services building. Um, again, could it
be repaired? Of course, anything can be

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repaired. It's not the most
cost-effective solution. Uh what we're

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proposing to do as we dive in here on
the Boer Services building. I'm going to

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show you that building a little bit more
detail. One of the things that we're

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focused on is building a much more
sustainable building, a much better use

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in terms of things like um heat pump
furnacing. Um we're talking about uh

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green roof um covered roofs for um uh
water quality, for habitat creation, uh

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cooling the building. Uh a lot of
different issues there. Plus, we can get

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grant funding for that. As we look at
the building in the footprint, this is

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the lower level. This is the water side.
We have um the these are the dedicated

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marina restrooms here and laundry and
and lounge and fitness and that sort of

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thing. On this side on the north side of
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this is very public space. So, these are
public restrooms for everybody. Welcome

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for everyone. You can come in here and
get ice cream and pop and soda, whatever

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else you want to do. Now, this is Green
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think we should in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
Um, as we look at this space, we have a

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marina garage and a parks department
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um, specific intent of making that more
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level, we actually have some additional
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the harbor master so they can view the
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the emergency services in the northeast
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that's a place where first responders
can monitor the entire park uh, Fourth

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of July on all the big events. they'll
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that. So, this is a shared use between
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So, here's just some some quick
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material studies and what things might
look like. So, again, green roofs, very

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sustainable design using natural
materials, wood, and so forth. Some

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quick AI renderings that are just
they're just studies. So, you look in

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too much detail, you'll see some goofy
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of the character that we're aiming for
when we start to think about this main

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pier. Again, this is a public pier. So,
this is meant to be a fixed structure

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that's going to help interrupt that
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we have water quality and we'll monitor
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the modeling. We don't have we we're
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to cause damage, but we have plenty of
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This will be open to the public. Anyone
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these views and so forth. In terms of
slips, you currently have 248. This plan

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shows 320, which is a 29% increase
total. Again, this is the capacity, what

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we actually choose to build in phase
one, and and phases will be determined

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later. One thing that's important, we
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slips slip demand is trending upwards.
When this marina was built, the primary

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boating size was 30 to 40 ft in length.
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most uh uh number of boats are. So you
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increase in the number of slips, we have
more larger slips. So it's actually 40%

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46% more capacity available. I want to
point out nobody's going to lose their

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slip. All existing voters will have the
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of size and capacity. So we're not
displacing anyone. And in terms of

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actually the construction, uh we should
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construction occurs during the off
season. The Boers might lose a few weeks

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at the very end. We might have to move
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when they come back in the spring, they
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marina to come to. We simply can't lose
a boating season in the Great Lakes. We

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have 100 days. So, um, so just some
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Um, moving past that. So, we also have a
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restrooms over here. What you're seeing
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There are three um, marina dedicated um,
shower rooms on the backside here. So,

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there'd be a shower and a toilet in here
behind a lock. Everything else is

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public. So about uh 80% of that building
is public over there. Just some quick

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imagery of what the docks might look
like. We're looking at different

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materials and we'll be going through
that in greater detail as we move

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forward. Um and then as we start to talk
about the public spaces. Um we're just

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using some examples here of some
interesting spaces about how we might

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build cool um places for people to walk
and enjoy and sit and sit and enjoy the

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views. um and build interesting shapes
and play spaces with cool interesting

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lighting. Uh movable seating, thinking
about, you know, people like to sit in a

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lot of different ways. Some want to sit
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some want to sit in sort of these cool
seat walls and features like this. One

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of the things I want to point out is the
night lighting. Uh we want to be very

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careful and use dark sky lighting, which
is good for um it's actually very safe.

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Seems intuitive that you have it's it's
darker. Well, it's it's actually less

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contrast. And so when you have even
lighting like this, what you end up with

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is this beautiful lighting character
that you see on here. What you don't see

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a lot of are light sources. You see the
glowing pools of light. We light up the

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things you want to see. What you
actually find is in the night you can

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actually see color. When you've gone
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very good dark skylighting environment,
you it's amazing how much better you can

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see even though the overall volume of
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It's also good for u not impacting
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it's a very good very good approach that
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So, just some more images. We talk about
a splash pad. The splash pad we are

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proposing will be a flat plaza that has
jets that come out of the ground. We're

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not talking about Crayola colored
structures up in the air with, you know,

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donkeys and buckets. This is meant to be
an elegant solution that is fun to play

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in. But if we need to turn it off and
use that space for something else, you

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turn that off and you have a usable,
functional plaza space. as much as

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possible. All of our upland spaces will
be multifunctional, be able to use for

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different uses at different times
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spaces.
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accessibility of course is completely
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look at this part of the plan, um what I
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circulation. So, we're showing um first
rate off is you'll notice that we've

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taken out about 30% of the parking. The
parking situation you have today is

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about 90% of the time you have way more
parking than you need. And that other

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10% of the time you don't have anywhere
close to enough parking. And so the

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compromise in the past was well build as
much as you can. And what that meant is

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you lost a ton of park space that's
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the the proposal here is to say, hey,
let's make certain that on 90% of the

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days we've got all the parking we need,
that we've got excellent drop off, that

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it's functional for the voters, that on
a reg it's very functional and useful.

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I'm not saying parking is not important.
I'm just saying it's not the most

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important thing on your waterfront. And
so we're changing the way that that

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works and we're going to work with the
operations team about shuttling and so

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forth. We've also added raised table
crossings to address the drag racing

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that is clearly known to understand out
there. If you look at Google Earth, you

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can see the the burnout marks. We've
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this and whether that's the priority.
We're working through those issues.

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Again, this is a work in progress. So,
these all of these topics are up for

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conversation as we evolve. And then as
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this the point. We'll talk about this as
a multifunctional building. we'll get

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into in detail, but I'm going to focus
on this area right here, which we're

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basically turning from a parking lot
into this cool interesting space,

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which has a series of outdoor rooms that
will be um reservable when, you know, in

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terms of picnic shelters. Um there'll be
little, they're not going to be walled

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rooms, but they'll feel like there's a
dedicated space. And so, this is going

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to be set up for uh you have very large
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around events that could be as small as
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thousands. So, uh, as we talk about the
building, we've got spaces for 50 and

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100 and 200 and 400. Out in here, we
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small gathering rooms that can be used
and to expand the function of everything

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else. So, voters could come in here,
just like they said, we want to have our

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space of our own. You can come in and
you reserve this just like anyone else.

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And they'll have covered shelters, maybe
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forth. Interesting. Cool. Public walk.
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we're proposing swings. Something about
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like a magnet. It's the craziest thing.
So, we'll be looking at some of that.

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So, here's some quick what this might
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quick view of what that looks like at
night. So, cool, fun, interesting spaces

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that create different uh usable um rooms
for people. So, then pushing back into

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um the main end of the building up here.
This is a large building. This is a This

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is actually an AI simulation, so don't
get too excited about when we see some

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goofy things. The surfers are going the
wrong way. Um, but again, it's just a

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quick study thinking about how this
space might start to work as we get into

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this building. This building is really
driven primarily by the upper level

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uses, which is the need for very large
um, uh, gathering spaces for 200 um, and

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up to 400. Um, and that led us to
looking at uh, the way this lower level

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works. So, one of the conversations from
the previous master plan was this was a

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restaurant. It was a specific use. And
our recommendation is that that puts

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entirely too much pressure on one
business to succeed. And if that

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business goes away, then you have this
empty hole in your waterfront. What

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we're proposing that you consider is to
think more like the Milwaukee public

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market where you have a series of
smaller businesses where maybe existing

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restaurants downtown can put a satellite
out there and that you have eight or 10

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small businesses. It might be a surf
shop. It might be a cheese shop. It

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might be different restaurants, tacos,
whatever. It's kind of a food hall

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approach. And that means if one of them
disappears, it's not the end of the

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world because it's it's if you go to the
public market and one shop's gone one

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day, it's not the end of the world. You
still have a really vibrant space. Of

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course, we have a lot of public
restrooms and a lot of other uses in

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here. We're also proposing at the
northeast corner. One of the things that

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we found when we were doing our public
meetings is it was a very cold December

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day and the surfers were having a great
time and uh they're stripping down and

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drying off in the parking lot. They
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So, we're proposing to create some
amenities for the surfers so that when

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it's offseason, they have a place to go
change, get warmed up, get a warm

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shower, and do those sorts of things.
Not that I have a problem with people

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changing in the in the parking lot. They
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upper level, we've got a series of of
spaces. So this does replace other types

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of uses. So we have 100 sp 100 100 guest
space here and then we have two um 200

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spaces 200 person spaces here that can
be broken down further. So you could

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have a series of 500 person events. You
could have a 500 person event. They all

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have roof deck access on the outside.
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anybody who can who wants to come
downstairs and maybe get tacos or

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whatever they they want to eat here,
they can pop up and sit on the roof deck

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and look and so forth.
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of this is, of course, uh we're working
with the first responders to make

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certain that they've got all the access
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emergency vehicles to get in here.
Again, we've got the splash pad here.

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Cool, interesting seating so you can be
out on this point. We want to make a

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much better connection from this point
out to the pier. Right now, you kind of

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have that it's a little bit of a
afterthought sidewalk connection. We

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want to do that better. And then this is
a dedicated space uh that would be like

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an outdoor bar. You could be out there
and have music, have shows, all these

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sorts of spaces here. And then we're
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winter garden with an outdoor fire pit.
So you can sit there and watch the

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surfers and sit there by a fire and do
some cool things there. And then some

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outdoor plaza spaces here.
So that again is just some quick

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examples of where the architecture
inspiration is coming from. Some people

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think that when we talk about a green
roof that we're talking about grass. We

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are not talking about grass. We're
talking about very specifically selected

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sedums and other uses. Um this this type
of green roof is actually in a tray

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system. So if there's an issue, it's
like when you buy a flat of beonas at

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the plant, you can lift up the whole
tray and access if you need to do

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something with the roof. It's a very
well understood system. Works very well

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in environment. It's doesn't create bird
issues or those sorts of things. It

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actually extends the life of the roof
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liner. So So with that, that is an hour
and a half presentation in about 15

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>> I'm sure there are questions. So

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» thanks Greg. We appreciate any questions
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Alder Kelly.

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» Hi. Thank you for your presentation.
I've seen uh quite a few of them and

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you're doing a really good job
consolidating it down. Um so one point I

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just want to make sure is clear. So if
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that commit us to spend money on every
aspect of this plan?

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» Absolutely not. This is a master plan
that sets out a long-term vision and as

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you go through, I would imagine you'll
be approving each individual phase as it

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comes along. clear the marina is the
immediate priority and and so as we're

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working on that you'll be able to say
that marina makes sense and I'm certain

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as we get to that point there'll be an
actual bid and you'll say that's the

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right amount of we're comfortable with
>> one followup if that's okay

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» um so just a comment and you alluded to
it um item F and G um looks like it's a

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relocation of a shelter bathroom uh in
order to make u an access drive so I I

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understand where that's coming from um
and I I do think that we should

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prioritize the experience of people at
the park rather than people trying to

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leave the park. Um, so I I just feel
like we should maybe step away from this

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idea in terms of a more cost-effective
way to handle the traffic issue that

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seems like it would be just for sort of
the big events. Maybe we change the

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00:25:23,039 --> 00:25:30,320
traffic in a different way rather than
tying in, you know, a specific access

402
00:25:28,159 --> 00:25:35,039
drive just for a couple days of the year
that might have um heavier traffic. But

403
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:39,679
otherwise, um, great job. I really
enjoy, um, hearing about the, you know,

404
00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:43,600
flexibility built into the plan. I think
that's really important going forward.

405
00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:46,880
So, thank you for your presentation.
>> Alder Heidman.

406
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:51,520
» Thank you, Mayor. Um, again, this is
I've seen his presentation a couple

407
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:54,880
times and we've had conversations. Um,
so we're going to adopt a plan. We're

408
00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:59,440
going to say, "Yeah, we're really all in
favor of this. Uh, how are we going to

409
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:03,919
pay for this? Is there a is there a
special tax? Is this all out of TIFF

410
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:07,600
district? If you could give me an
understanding on how this is actually

411
00:26:05,679 --> 00:26:12,080
going to be paid for, I'd appreciate it.
>> City administrator.

412
00:26:09,039 --> 00:26:19,039
» Um, so in the TID 21 project plan, I
believe we have about I think it's $17

413
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:25,279
million um dedicated to funding this
portion of the project. So, the marina

414
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:30,080
redevelopment waterfront. Um so on top
of that we also plan on going for quite

415
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:35,039
a number of grants that this project
will qualify for. We've had preliminary

416
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:40,960
conversations with state agencies with
private foundations things like that. So

417
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:45,039
um the total amount available still not
fully understood until we have so once

418
00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:49,120
we get to this point if we're moving
forward uh the next stage obviously

419
00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:53,440
would be kind of kind of like what we're
doing with the fire stations. we're at

420
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:57,360
each stage of this. Um we're going to
bring it back and get get your input,

421
00:26:55,840 --> 00:27:01,840
your feedback, and then if you want us
to move forward to the next stage or

422
00:26:58,799 --> 00:27:06,240
not. So um this stage basically gets to
the point where we can start applying

423
00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:11,840
for grants and start getting that better
understanding um of what potentially

424
00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:17,200
we'd be eligible for. So we have a whole
matrix of various grants from different

425
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:23,840
agencies uh whether they're state, local
or private um that various elements of

426
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:29,120
this project will qualify for. So um you
know there's transportation grants that

427
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:34,159
we can go after for the uh sidewalk and
infrastructure inside of the the area

428
00:27:32,159 --> 00:27:38,480
here that you know like the sidewalks
aren't going to qualify for but the

429
00:27:35,679 --> 00:27:43,440
multimmoal paths will. Um there's grants
for clean water funds uh related to the

430
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:47,840
water and sewer that would go in here.
And then there's grants available for

431
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:53,120
storm water runoff that we can address
um both public and private that will

432
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:57,039
help address and um various issues or
various components within this plan. So

433
00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:02,240
we need to start putting all of that
together um to give you a really good

434
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:07,279
idea of what funding might actually be
available. And we also need to nail down

435
00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:11,279
what the actual projected costs are.
>> So the next stage of this is getting

436
00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:15,360
more, you know, right now we just got
kind of AI renderings and we've got, you

437
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:19,200
know, that schematic design where it's
just basically lines on paper. We need

438
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:22,399
to start having the conversation of what
are the materials that are going to be

439
00:28:20,559 --> 00:28:25,440
used. What are the actual layouts of
these buildings? And once we start

440
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:29,440
honing in on that, then we can get a
better idea of what exactly we would

441
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:33,279
need to fund these projects and then is
it actually fundable.

442
00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:41,760
» Okay. Thank you. Uh just a followup,
mayor. Um when this all started, I'm I'm

443
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:46,720
100% behind having marina that is
functional and appropriate for the city

444
00:28:44,159 --> 00:28:51,679
of Shuagen and it's going to and the
boating community is going to be taken

445
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:58,159
care of. That was the initial thing. Now
all of a sudden we morph off into all

446
00:28:53,600 --> 00:29:04,159
this other stuff. And I guess if if I
had an opportunity to get one and I we

447
00:29:01,679 --> 00:29:08,720
we talked about it earlier if and and if
you want to give me that number just the

448
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:12,080
cost of of the marina alone is
approximate with that building with the

449
00:29:10,799 --> 00:29:16,159
other building because we have to
replace that other building. I

450
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:19,679
understand that. Just ballpark it for
me.

451
00:29:16,559 --> 00:29:23,440
» I would say the marina itself is in the
$17 million range. That public pier is

452
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:27,039
in about a three and a half million
dollar range. very preliminary and that

453
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:30,080
building right there is in the 3 to 5
million range. We're working on that

454
00:29:28,159 --> 00:29:34,320
with contractors. So all of those things
together at this point I would say is in

455
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:37,440
the 25ish range and we're we're working
on that. It's very preliminary but we're

456
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,399
comfortable. We have a higher level of
confidence in the marina design because

457
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:44,080
we know so much about that. the upland
design of the building takes more time

458
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:49,200
» and and I appreciate it and I think that
it's important that the citizens realize

459
00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:52,960
what we're we're trying to adopt as a
plan and going forward with that we

460
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:57,600
actually have an idea of what it might
cost for a change as opposed to later on

461
00:29:55,919 --> 00:30:01,600
peacemealing and saying now we're not
doing this now we're doing this now

462
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:06,159
we're doing this so the initial concept
and what we just talked about I'm 100%

463
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:11,600
for so thank you very much
>> thank you Alder heman uh Alder close.

464
00:30:09,679 --> 00:30:15,919
» Thank you. I I just wanted to comment
that uh looking at this design, the

465
00:30:14,159 --> 00:30:20,399
original design of the marina was so
much more focused on Boers and amenities

466
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:25,840
for Boers that this really changed the
focus of the marina uh from a strictly

467
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:29,760
boater oriented type of destination to a
true destination for the people of

468
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:33,679
Shboan and also gives an opportunity for
a lot of the local small businesses to

469
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:37,279
really shine and showcase what Shboan is
all about. Uh, unfortunately, a lot of

470
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:40,080
the people who come to the marina might
just spend time in the marina and then

471
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:43,679
head back out in the water. Now, they
actually get a chance to see what the

472
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:47,600
small businesses are all about and have
the opportunity to uh share in some of

473
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:50,720
the amenities that we enjoy here at
home. So, thank you.

474
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:56,320
» Thank you. Thank you, Alder Close. Alder
Brimzer,

475
00:30:53,440 --> 00:31:01,279
» thank you. Um, I I agree with Alder
Close. Um, I just appreciate that the

476
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:06,240
design has those dedicated spaces for
folks that are living in Shbboen. um not

477
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:10,799
just for the voters. So, um I think it's
easier to get behind this when I know

478
00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:15,039
that my kids can use the splash pad and
we can all head down there at any time

479
00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:18,880
and enjoy the space. Um the folks that
live here, I just have one question. So,

480
00:31:16,799 --> 00:31:25,200
those four shelters um that would be
along the marina.

481
00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:30,159
» Um so, you said they'll be like open
>> open buildings. So, and then they will

482
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:32,880
have like a fireplace. So would those be
reservable or would it be like first

483
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,760
come first serve?
>> I think I think the plan at the moment

484
00:31:34,159 --> 00:31:38,640
it's an operational issue but they'd be
reservable in the same way other

485
00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:42,159
dedicated you know picnic shelters and
things would be reservable. Yep.

486
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:46,640
» Okay cool. Thank you
>> older per.

487
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:54,559
» Thank you. Um just to make I just want
to uh clarify again. So the next if we

488
00:31:51,679 --> 00:32:03,279
um we go to the next stage
>> Mhm. Will we still be able to um remove

489
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:09,200
some parts of these projects that we do
not feel we want to support? So, or in

490
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:12,880
other words, your plan is a
comprehensive plan. Mhm.

491
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:19,039
» And so
if we don't want those open spaces,

492
00:32:15,679 --> 00:32:24,480
right, those uh open uh shops or we
don't want the the splash pad or we

493
00:32:21,919 --> 00:32:26,559
don't want the whole event new event
building.

494
00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:31,919
» Mhm.
>> How comfortable will you be? Will be as

495
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:37,120
easy as remove that part from your part
project, remove this, remove this,

496
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:44,240
remove this and go on to the next step.
I want to make sure that we as a body

497
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:49,840
are able to truly um assess each
individual piece piece of this project

498
00:32:47,279 --> 00:32:54,880
rather than arriving at the very last
and say oh now we cannot do anything

499
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:59,679
anymore or now we are forced to or
whatever else we it would be presented

500
00:32:57,279 --> 00:33:04,320
at that time I don't want this body to
be in that and then the other concern so

501
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:10,720
I I will let you answer that but then
the other concern I have is this is as

502
00:33:07,919 --> 00:33:18,960
cool as it comes, right? It's hard not
to like it. However, I also think there

503
00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:22,640
is nothing more sad that a cool place
that is not used.

504
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:28,960
» How [clears throat] do we know that this
actually will be as used and attractive

505
00:33:26,399 --> 00:33:33,440
or generate the type of business we
want? What is the type of study we have

506
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:39,679
done as a city?
uh will there be an interest for little

507
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:46,000
restaurants there? Will there I know the
wants that we all expressed but I don't

508
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:52,080
know what is the type of assessment we
truly have of the return

509
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:57,279
» um on this investment. We have lived and
experienced in Marina for 30 years that

510
00:33:54,559 --> 00:34:04,399
has not been profitable.
>> Mh. So if we have to learn from the past

511
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:10,159
uh that is something that speaks pretty
loud about it and I keep saying the same

512
00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:14,560
thing over and over again because I
don't think we have a clear I don't

513
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:17,679
think we have addressed this clearly
enough.

514
00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:21,679
» So what I would say is this is the
schematic design level. So everything's

515
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:25,520
in process. We as a design team take our
direction from the steering committee

516
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:29,440
which is made up of many of your staff
around here. Um so your direction to the

517
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:33,919
steering committee would pass to us in
terms of components that stay in or go.

518
00:34:31,919 --> 00:34:37,919
Um so from that perspective we'll
continue this again is an overall vision

519
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:40,639
and so if a major element would come out
one of the conversations be well what

520
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,839
goes there and how do we address what
what that space will be wouldn't leave

521
00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:46,639
an empty hole for example. So I would
say that your your feedback to the

522
00:34:45,359 --> 00:34:52,000
marina steering committee will come
directly to us and that's that's how our

523
00:34:48,399 --> 00:34:55,760
how we're set up um as it relates to uh
what what I think of as the market

524
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:58,480
analysis. And so, um, you know, I I
really appreciate the comments. It's not

525
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:02,240
about the boers. I am a boater. And this
is from a boater perspective. This is

526
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:05,119
fantastic because boers want great
docks, but they also want cool, great

527
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:09,440
spaces. And one of the things that we've
done, we actually did a survey of over

528
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:13,280
5,000 voters um for a project in
Michigan for the state of Michigan. And

529
00:35:11,359 --> 00:35:16,320
we asked them to name the best harbor
just with no context, just what's the

530
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:20,079
best one. And they they picked a place
called Charavoy, Michigan. And when you

531
00:35:18,079 --> 00:35:22,800
look at it, it's all about this space
with this great park and this cool

532
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,119
interesting the ice cream and the
restaurants and the stuff. So, it's

533
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:28,960
exactly the things that we're putting in
here. So, we know that that is what at

534
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:32,800
least the voters want as it relates to
what the rest of the community wants.

535
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:38,400
And I would back up. We actually did a a
marina market analysis for this harbor

536
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:40,320
for the um uh the what's the name of the
organization we did the study for?

537
00:35:39,909 --> 00:35:43,599
[laughter]
>> Visit Shbboan.

538
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:47,040
» Vision. Vision. Thank you. Sorry, I
should know that. Visit Shbboen. So, we

539
00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:51,440
did the marina mark analysis. So we know
that we have actual data from doing a

540
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:54,560
mark analysis um for this. So when we're
sizing the actual slips and all the

541
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,280
things very high level of confidence in
the slip sizing and everything else what

542
00:35:56,079 --> 00:36:01,839
boats are out there. So on the marina
side we've done that on the upland side.

543
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:05,680
Um exactly programming the building and
exactly what's coming. I will tell you

544
00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:08,480
this um I know that the one the problem
we have right now and what people didn't

545
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,520
feel welcome was they didn't feel
welcome in you know there's the bar on

546
00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:15,920
the second floor of the Marina building.
Can I go in there? you know that this is

547
00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:19,359
a space that's exactly the reverse and
so when everything's about the community

548
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:22,800
you have that what I would recommend as
that building evolves there's certainly

549
00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:26,960
the need to engage local businesses and
everybody else going hey if we have this

550
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:29,920
will you come and you so that is a
process that would go on we're we're

551
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:33,680
designing the building and the program
for it actually confirming that program

552
00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:38,040
and with local business is a process
that would be ongoing through design

553
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,040
development

554
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:45,200
» good okay any other questions
all All right. Thank you, Greg.

555
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:50,320
Appreciate it.
>> All right. Next, uh item 11, another

556
00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:54,960
presentation by the Shboen public safety
departments, uh for the design

557
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:59,440
development process, and then we have
fire chief and Laura will give an

558
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:02,599
update.
>> Thank you.

559
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:08,240
» Hi, mayor. Thank you, council members.
We're at that point again where we're

560
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:14,079
seeking permission to move to the next
phase. With me is uh Laura Eisenogle

561
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:18,800
from Wendell 5 Bugle Design. She'll give
you a little presentation uh on where

562
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:21,680
where we have been, where we're at, and
then we're moving forward. So, she'll

563
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:25,000
make it quick, but here I'll turn it
over to Laura.

564
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,560
» Got it down here. Sorry.
>> Yeah, I was going to just make it um I

565
00:37:29,950 --> 00:37:33,119
[clears throat] was going to do one
thing real quick. I was going to go like

566
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:37,200
that so it's bigger
>> and then go like that. Okay, perfect.

567
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,920
Excellent. Um again, so thank you so
much for having me here tonight. Uh my

568
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:43,599
name is Laura Eisenog. I work for Window
and Five Bugles. Like Chief said, I've

569
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:47,280
been here several different times to go
over this presentation and just kind of

570
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:50,079
give progress. So um as Chief said,
we're going to go over the project to

571
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:54,000
date, what we've been covering over the
last couple of months, and then what

572
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:58,480
we're proposing going on to next. So
essentially, we started um couple years

573
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:01,440
ago, a year ago now. Uh we went through
concept design, we came and spoke to

574
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:05,040
you, schematic design, which is where
these folks are at, then design

575
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:08,480
development. And so now where we are is
we're about 60% done with our documents

576
00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:13,520
and we're hoping to move on to the
construction document phase and then

577
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:17,280
ultimately bidding. So um into the
design development phase the it's

578
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:20,079
exactly what it says. It's the
development of all the design details

579
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:24,880
throughout the project. So we really
started focusing in on specific systems

580
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:28,880
materials uh how things are really truly
going to function. uh we really uh

581
00:38:27,359 --> 00:38:32,320
talked a lot to your departments about
the civil engineering, how that's going

582
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:36,960
to work and the specialty design with
your firing range and with your fire

583
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:42,160
tower and just kept working through all
the details. So essentially over in the

584
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:45,280
overall picture, not much has changed.
It's just a lot more uh details have

585
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:49,520
been developed on it. So, we still have
our five facilities on the public safety

586
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:54,079
complex with the station three, the
support building, uh the fire uh

587
00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:57,520
training tower, the firing range, and
then the addition to the police

588
00:38:55,359 --> 00:39:01,680
department for their fleet storage and
evidence storage. So, again, just kind

589
00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:05,359
of zooming in on this. Um we did not
move the site. The site's still at 23rd

590
00:39:03,599 --> 00:39:09,520
Street. So, everything is just exactly
how you saw it before. Um we are to the

591
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:12,800
point though that though that we are
developing what the exteriors look like

592
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,839
in more definition. So, this is the
direction that the building's headed.

593
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:19,520
It's not final yet. We're still working
through some items, but you can kind of

594
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:23,280
get the overall uh understanding of what
we've been developing with the chief and

595
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:27,359
with the department. In terms of the
floor plan design, again, really nothing

596
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:30,480
changed. We really started diving in.
You know, hallways might have tweaked a

597
00:39:29,359 --> 00:39:33,520
little bit here or there, but the
overall intent of the project has

598
00:39:31,839 --> 00:39:37,440
remained the same with training and
administration on the first floor and

599
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:41,839
personal decontamination. our primary
response bays and our support uh command

600
00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:46,079
garage and then our exercise room is all
on the first floor of station 3. And

601
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:50,480
then on the second floor of station 3 is
our living quarters for our department.

602
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:53,359
Um in terms of interior finishes, we
started working through interior

603
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:56,320
finishes as well as exterior finishes
with our department. They are not

604
00:39:54,720 --> 00:40:00,960
finalized yet, but you can kind of get
the uh impression that they are going

605
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:04,240
for very comfortable homey uh
surroundings that are very durable and

606
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:08,560
will last the test of time, especially
with fire departments. Um, in terms of

607
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:12,079
what we're starting to look like on the
interiors, uh, this is a picture of our

608
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:15,920
lobby space. This will be coming out of
the training room looking back to the

609
00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:20,560
front entry with the entry to the fire
department, uh, administration on the

610
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:23,920
left hand side. Um, this is our large
training room that we have. This will

611
00:40:21,839 --> 00:40:27,760
also be used for public for voting. Um,
but it's primarily used for a training

612
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:31,760
room and then as an EOC or emergency
operations center. Uh, this is our

613
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,880
administration break room. making sure
that our administration has a spot to

614
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:38,000
take a minute throughout the course of
the day. They can also use it for an

615
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:42,640
informal conference space throughout the
day. And then when we move upstairs,

616
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:46,000
this is an image of our day room or a
kitchen space to make sure that our

617
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:49,119
responders have a nice big kitchen. And
then this is looking back at their

618
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:52,000
dining room in the foreground, the day
room or their living room in the back

619
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:56,480
right, and then the kitchen space in the
back left.

620
00:40:53,760 --> 00:41:01,839
Um, located directly behind station 3 is
our um apparatus support base. This is a

621
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:05,520
singlestory facility. It's six backin
bays. Um, this will be made out of

622
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:11,280
pre-cast. So, we're still working
through how that pre-cast will relate in

623
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:16,400
terms of finish to station 3. And then
located behind or next to that is our

624
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:18,960
fire training tower. And um, again, this
is an example of what the training tower

625
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,480
will look like. Each one of these
training towers is specifically designed

626
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:25,200
for your department. So, yours will be a
little bit different, but all intents

627
00:41:23,839 --> 00:41:29,040
and purposes, this is what it will be.
It's a five-story complex for live fire

628
00:41:27,599 --> 00:41:33,440
training that will be used by the police
department, fire department, and the

629
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:37,839
public works departments.
Um, in terms of the firing range, um,

630
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,560
again, the for plan for this has not
really changed significantly. We've been

631
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,839
working through how it's going to
function, though. Um, but we still have

632
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:47,520
our police department entry from the
north, our fire department entry from

633
00:41:45,359 --> 00:41:50,640
the south. We're still having our dirty
classroom or classroom space that we

634
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,280
don't have to worry about going in when
they're coming from the live fire

635
00:41:51,839 --> 00:41:56,640
training tower. they can go right into
the space without doing too much of a

636
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:59,920
decon process. That's what it means to
be a dirty classroom. And then the

637
00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:04,720
firing ranges in the red with the
training mezzanine up above. Um our

638
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:08,720
police department expansion, we are
proposing doing that in again pre-cast

639
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:11,920
tip-up panels to help save cost but also
still make it a very durable structure

640
00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:15,359
for our police department. We're working
through what this one will look like,

641
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:19,760
but our intention is to have it reflect
the existing building with the gray

642
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:24,319
block and then some uh horizontal
banding that will kind of blend into

643
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:27,520
what you have there already. Um, in
terms of what this looks like, again,

644
00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:31,599
the floor plan did not change. Uh, so we
have our fleet garage space, maintenance

645
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:36,560
storage, evidence storage, and then it
attaches onto the existing facility. In

646
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:40,560
terms of station two, the only change
that we really had to this project was

647
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:46,000
instead of having our primary response
to the south on me, we are going to have

648
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:49,839
our response onto 18th Street. Um that
was a decision that the department made

649
00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:53,280
after hearing some concerns from the
community and then thinking through how

650
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:57,839
they are responding and how the roadways
are constructed. So just like with

651
00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:01,119
station 3, uh we're still designing the
exterior elements, but this is

652
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:05,760
essentially what we are um pushing
forward with with the design. very

653
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:09,119
traditional looking fire stations. And
again, not much has changed on the floor

654
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:13,760
plans. We still have our exercise, a
little bit of uh training space, a small

655
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:17,280
administration of one office, and then a
conference room, and then our watch

656
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:20,880
room. M. Uh the main thing on this first
floor are our apparatus bays, which are

657
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,359
two drive-through bays and one back in
bay, and then our personal

658
00:43:21,839 --> 00:43:29,200
decontamination.
On the second floor, then uh we have our

659
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:32,960
um dorms and our living quarters. Our
living quarters, our kitchen and dining

660
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:36,720
space. We'll be keeping the interior
finishes the same from interior and

661
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:41,200
exterior finishes the same from both
stations uh to keep it nice and

662
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:44,640
consistent. This again is the lobby. So,
this is right when you're walking into

663
00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:48,560
station 2. So, those doors there, that's
the glass door. That'll show you um that

664
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:51,920
goes into the conference room. And then
the door on the right hand side goes to

665
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:56,880
the back of the station or the back of
house spaces. When we go upstairs, this

666
00:43:54,400 --> 00:44:00,480
is our kitchen space for our responders.
And then our dining room is uh connected

667
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:03,680
to that space with some windows to the
north to make sure they get some nice

668
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:07,359
natural light into that space. And then
the windows on the right hand side, the

669
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:11,680
square windows, those go uh look down
into the apparatus bay. In terms of the

670
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:14,560
day room, this is our day room. Again,
it's internally located. So we did have

671
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:18,720
some windows that look down into the
apparatus bays. They can get some

672
00:44:15,839 --> 00:44:23,599
borrowed light into those spaces.
So what's next? Um like I mentioned, we

673
00:44:21,359 --> 00:44:26,319
just finished up our 60% document set.
who are proposing we're asking

674
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:31,520
permission to go into construction
documents. Um so in construction

675
00:44:29,359 --> 00:44:35,280
documents we will finalize the the
documents that would go out for bidding.

676
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:40,319
So we'll really concentrate on the final
details um door hardware, interior

677
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:44,079
finishes and exterior finishes. Uh we'll
dive into more of the owner purchased

678
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:47,520
equipment such as vehicle exhaust or
security systems and our station

679
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:50,720
alerting. And then ultimately we will
come back to the department. We'll have

680
00:44:49,119 --> 00:44:55,599
a series of meetings but it will
culminate in the 90% owner review which

681
00:44:52,720 --> 00:45:00,160
is a final page turn that we go through.
So in terms of overall project schedule

682
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:04,319
this is a proposed schedule. Obviously
we can flex it as much as we need to and

683
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:08,640
you know adapt as we would like to but
essentially our team will be ready to go

684
00:45:05,839 --> 00:45:13,760
to bid uh this January. So it would be
our goal to hand over the documents in

685
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:17,280
January and ask permission to go to bid
in January. Um if we are given

686
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:22,560
permission then we would release for
bid. We are proposing about a one-mon

687
00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:26,480
bid period. Um once we have the bids
received, we would read through them,

688
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:33,760
vet the bids, vet the bids to make sure
that everything is um appropriate and

689
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:38,079
then come back to um seek permission to
award the bids and go into mobilization.

690
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:42,240
Um if all that goes to plan, we'd be
breaking ground in the spring. Sometime

691
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:46,480
around April would be the goal. Um
March, if we have a really great winter,

692
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:52,079
a really warm winter for us is great for
construction. and then ribbon cutting

693
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:56,800
would be about 15 months later. Um, in
terms of the estimate, so we kept right

694
00:45:54,319 --> 00:45:59,920
on track with where it was before. The
only thing that you'll see different is

695
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:04,640
that we did break out the station
alerting security and vehicle exhaust.

696
00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:08,800
Those numbers were up above for stations
two, station three, and then the other

697
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:13,280
facilities associated with this project.
But we are going to be looking at uh

698
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:16,480
including uh vehicle exhaust alerting
and security at your other stations to

699
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:19,680
make sure that all the stations are
receiving the same type of equipment.

700
00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:23,280
And that's why that's broken out at the
bottom.

701
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,119
Um and that's it.
>> All right.

702
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:28,480
» Questions?
>> Thank you, Laura. City administrator TS

703
00:46:27,359 --> 00:46:33,440
up.
>> Yeah. Can you go back one slide there?

704
00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:37,599
Uh just to point out for everybody, we
we do have these in the budget to be

705
00:46:35,599 --> 00:46:42,079
replaced over the next couple years. And
what we've asked the chief to do is to

706
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:46,960
include them if we're going to do these
two projects. It doesn't make sense to

707
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:52,079
do two stations and then do the other
three independently. Um so we would look

708
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:56,240
at doing one bid for all five stations
and that's why we've we've put it here.

709
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:59,760
But um this wouldn't be new borrowing
that we would do for the other stations.

710
00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:05,359
it's already in the budget and planned
for. Um, so it just basically be done as

711
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:10,400
a part of the capital plan as it's
already planned just with this project

712
00:47:07,359 --> 00:47:14,400
to help uh reduce the overall costs.
Instead of five separate projects, it

713
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:19,119
would be one project affecting all five
stations.

714
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:22,119
Questions uh for for Laura or the fire
chief?

715
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:30,000
» All right, seeing none. Thank you.
>> Thank you.

716
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:32,079
» All right. Next item 12, public forum.
Deputy city clerk. Anyone for this

717
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:36,400
evening?
>> There are four speaking this evening.

718
00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:42,119
» All right. First,
>> Michael Brunette.

719
00:47:38,319 --> 00:47:42,119
» You have a question. Joe,

720
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:48,160
» uh, we're postponing that one.
>> Yeah. All right. Mike, name, address,

721
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:53,680
and item you're speaking on, and you
have five minutes.

722
00:47:49,520 --> 00:48:01,280
» 611 North Water Street, apartment 303,
item number seven, and more. Okay, item

723
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:07,119
number seven is appointments to the
board, the board of the housing

724
00:48:03,599 --> 00:48:13,760
authority or whatever it's called. And
uh basically they had they had a couple

725
00:48:09,839 --> 00:48:19,920
resignations recently and like
everything shuigen everywhere everybody

726
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:25,920
villainizes the old white guy. This
dude, half you guys in here, white

727
00:48:23,119 --> 00:48:29,680
women, what it is, but the old white
guy, most evil thing in the history of

728
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:33,280
the world. Election times, people are
rolling around saying, "Vote for this

729
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:37,520
guy cuz he's this that, that, anything
but the old white guy." Truth is, when

730
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:41,599
you look at your boards, they're all
white guys. They're all white women.

731
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:46,559
It's just what it is. It's what it is.
And right now in the housing authority

732
00:48:43,359 --> 00:48:53,119
board, you had a bunch of people resign
and da da da and you brought in more of

733
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:58,160
what I would call cronyism professional
administrators and basically you had one

734
00:48:56,240 --> 00:49:04,559
person move in and another person moving
in and I don't feel safe there. These

735
00:49:01,839 --> 00:49:09,280
are people that are hostile to me openly
and they're becoming my they're becoming

736
00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:13,119
my keepers. And moving on from that,
it's not going to matter. It's what it

737
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:16,000
is. you had on on that board, you had
John Donovan who was on redevelopment

738
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:20,480
authority and he was on housing
authority and he's there at the meeting.

739
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:24,880
I'm there for a totally different reason
and it's like but you go there and

740
00:49:22,079 --> 00:49:29,520
you're just like what the and literally
he's telling everybody how he's in

741
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:34,319
Ireland and he's doing this stuff and
he's using his in-laws address and I

742
00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:37,520
mention it to Lisa Salgado. She mentions
it and all a sudden it's a big huff huff

743
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:40,240
up and I'm like gez, you know, it's like
I don't mention it to people so he can

744
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:45,440
use it cuz I'm no one actually goes
here. So then everybody's mad at me for

745
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:49,839
calling this out. But seriously, if this
dude was in housing, he'd get kicked out

746
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:54,000
of the building for doing what he would
and he'd lose his pension or whatever

747
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:57,920
this and that. D, but you're in there as
an administrator. You're coming in there

748
00:49:56,240 --> 00:50:01,760
with no heart and you're looking at
stuff from money instead of as people.

749
00:50:00,319 --> 00:50:05,920
And the same thing with what you're
doing with all this other stuff. Now,

750
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:10,079
one mention of people you're doing
public safety, how much you're going to

751
00:50:07,839 --> 00:50:14,559
spend to keep people safe here. You
created a blighted area called the

752
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:18,319
marina where right now broken window
theory. Somebody brought it up to me the

753
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:21,920
other week. And I'm like, "Yeah, I kind
of know what it is." But you created it

754
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:24,400
there where you created a void. So, the
kids are there, then you're calling the

755
00:50:23,359 --> 00:50:30,400
police on them, so the police are
hassling them. Oh. Oh, that's a problem

756
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:35,040
now. And that plan is ridiculous.
There's no real plan there. They'll have

757
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:38,559
somebody come in 3 to 5 years and and
then the Army Corps will take care of

758
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:44,000
stuff. You'll take care of this. That
over half your boats are fishing boats.

759
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:47,839
Just true. I I surveyed it, went through
with my drones and got every square inch

760
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:52,880
of that and checked on it. It's
basically a junkyard on the water. Why

761
00:50:50,319 --> 00:50:56,800
are you only pushing one agenda down on
the water that has failed forever? It

762
00:50:54,800 --> 00:51:00,960
was voted down then and you're doing it
again. and the public safety thing. Just

763
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:06,880
the insane amount of money you people
are spending and it has nothing to do

764
00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:10,720
with citizens. We can't have anything.
Oh, it's for the voters this and that

765
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:15,839
and that. The hell with the voters. They
had to run and they blew it to say the

766
00:51:13,839 --> 00:51:19,760
least. You can still have boats there.
You just don't have to make it a big

767
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:22,960
damn parking lot and then put in there
basically you're trying to put a little

768
00:51:21,119 --> 00:51:26,800
mini summerfest grounds on. And the
bottom line is you don't know how to run

769
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:32,480
anything. You've proven that. You have
proven that.

770
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:37,160
» All right. City clerk, deputy city
clerk,

771
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,160
» Fern Lamibo,

772
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:43,280
» Fern, name, address, item you're
speaking on, and you'll have five

773
00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:46,960
minutes. You just adjust the mic. Thank
you.

774
00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:51,680
» Fern Luma, 409 Wisconsin Avenue, and I
am here to discuss number 17, which is

775
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:55,440
the adoption of the waterfront plan. So,
of course, I could nitpick a bunch of

776
00:51:53,599 --> 00:52:00,160
small little things uh that I'm just
particular about, like the face of the

777
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:04,000
building blocks, the view from the beach
pavilion to the lighthouse. Like,

778
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:08,559
there's a bunch of little things, but
overall, the biggest thing that I get

779
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:13,520
still am a bit disappointed to is that
there still wasn't too much public

780
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:17,680
input. Uh sessions allowed for it. I
know when uh the comprehensive plan came

781
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:22,319
through, there was push and we added
more into it. you mentioned um that

782
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:28,240
there were many and there were two the
one in December um 18 2025 which was

783
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:32,480
before this entire plan and these
pictures have come through and since

784
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:35,839
then we've had the July 21st one which
was the only other one and from the city

785
00:52:34,319 --> 00:52:41,440
side of it even on their like social
media there's only one post which was

786
00:52:38,240 --> 00:52:45,920
the event creation for the July 21st one
and nothing else pushing it forward

787
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:50,559
anywhere even closer towards the event
which I find a shame cuz I love to try

788
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:53,760
to inform the public on things. It's one
of those things that I find the most

789
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:57,119
important because an informed community
has at least the opportunity to make a

790
00:52:55,520 --> 00:53:00,800
difference, but people that don't know
what's happening get so lost. And so

791
00:52:59,119 --> 00:53:06,559
many times I get the comment of, "Oh,
we're working on a marina plan. That's

792
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:10,160
crazy." And I find it very difficult cuz
I would love the city to just push for

793
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:15,040
that forward so we do get more public
input and get the ability to get just

794
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:19,040
everybody's perspective. The other
bigger thought on the marina building

795
00:53:17,119 --> 00:53:22,480
itself, I'm a huge fan of separating the
facilities. I think it makes sense

796
00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:26,960
moving the boating things back down
towards the boating area, keep it

797
00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:31,599
consolidated. Um, for the building
itself, I do personally believe that we

798
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:35,760
are biting too much that we can't
handle. It's such a large facility

799
00:53:34,079 --> 00:53:40,160
that's housing so many different things,
so many different businesses, buildings,

800
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:44,800
and from my perspective, I've seen us
struggle with the current Marina

801
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:48,880
building. And that in itself, although I
know it is not repairable for a

802
00:53:47,359 --> 00:53:52,480
reasonable cost, we still let it go
downhill over the past, you know, 30

803
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:57,040
plus years to get to where it's at
today. And for the management side of

804
00:53:54,880 --> 00:54:00,240
it, I know I've talked to the bar owners
at times who were in there and they

805
00:53:58,559 --> 00:54:03,119
struggled. One thing I'll question is
about just like the plan for signage.

806
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:06,000
That was one of those things that was
mentioned at the time that it was

807
00:54:04,319 --> 00:54:09,440
difficult to always get their name out.
This will be different because it's such

808
00:54:07,359 --> 00:54:13,839
a large scale facility, but with that,
there's just so much going into it. all

809
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:19,520
of the event spaces, all of the shops,
and then let alone all of the pavilions.

810
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:23,599
It is, I just think, too much to be
assuming that we'll have be able to like

811
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:26,480
manage all of it as a city. Um, the
parking situation I do find concerning.

812
00:54:25,359 --> 00:54:30,160
If there's anybody that knows me,
they'll know I will not advocate for

813
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:33,280
more parking. Not a huge fan. I don't
like driving. I'll walk and bike

814
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:39,119
everywhere. But with the amount of
parking spaces cut and adding all these

815
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:42,720
facilities, I just can't see it. I was
trying to math out how many spaces you

816
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:47,520
would need, but having a 500 person
event space and then even if those shops

817
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:53,280
are running and you got workers there,
caterers there, that parking space is

818
00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:57,680
already full with the like the 240
that was approximated to be um you know

819
00:54:55,599 --> 00:55:02,480
still maintained. The next public
walking parking I guess would be street

820
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:11,200
parking about 1,000 ft away from both
entrances. And overall that part I don't

821
00:55:06,559 --> 00:55:15,599
know how feasible it sounds to me. Um
storage facilities for all of it. Each

822
00:55:13,599 --> 00:55:18,960
one of the event spaces I'm very curious
on. I know we're going to go into the

823
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:22,559
further details but planning all the
windows and everything. Some of these to

824
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:27,119
me should be planned a little bit better
where the chairs, the tables, first

825
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:31,839
floor, second floor, restaurants, all of
that. Uh there's a very minimal amount

826
00:55:29,359 --> 00:55:35,520
of like storage andor like backstock
rooms for people to be able to like do

827
00:55:33,839 --> 00:55:40,400
the marketing for things. And I know
we're comparing it sort of to the

828
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:44,400
Milwaukee public spaces or the public
market, but to me that's also a very

829
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:48,559
different situation. Theirs is directly
in the heart of town. Ours is on the

830
00:55:46,319 --> 00:55:52,319
edge and we're now turning a destination
space away from downtown, away from the

831
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:57,359
riverfront when we've already put so
much money into those themselves and

832
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:59,920
they're doing okay. I think they could
always be doing better. I wish we did

833
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:05,200
put some more attention into either one
of those. Um, but that's where I do

834
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:08,720
think it's just it is a lot. I've also
been told to mention something about

835
00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:13,119
like birds safe glass is a big thing,
especially with all those tall windows.

836
00:56:10,559 --> 00:56:17,280
There's like the restrooms number or
letter C. I think they're almost a bit

837
00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:20,319
excessive to put another building in
front of all the glass windows. That's

838
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:25,280
going to be the bar and restaurant. It
blocks the view, which is I think one of

839
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:29,040
the biggest parts of doing that. Um,
yeah, it's one of those things that I

840
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:33,680
could really go and talk about way too
many things, but I just like designing.

841
00:56:31,599 --> 00:56:38,799
Um, but the biggest thing is please do
more public input, push bigger for

842
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:43,520
people to come in, have more spaces,
uptown social. I know there's a lot of

843
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:47,799
things going on, but I think it' make a
big impact for the members of community.

844
00:56:47,839 --> 00:56:54,720
» Thank you, Deputy City Clerk.
>> Peter, mayor.

845
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:58,400
Peter, name, address, item you're
speaking on. Five minutes.

846
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:03,440
» Thank you. Uh, my name is Peter Mayor.
My residence is 1314 North Fifth Street.

847
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:08,720
My office address is 502 North 6th
Street. And I am uh the chair of the

848
00:57:07,119 --> 00:57:14,000
Marina Parks and Forestry Commission,
but these are my personal comments. Um,

849
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:19,040
I'm speaking on agenda item 17 in favor
of adoption of the waterfront marina

850
00:57:16,799 --> 00:57:23,440
master plan and schematic design
prepared by Edgewater Resources. In

851
00:57:21,359 --> 00:57:27,440
general, I'm in favor of the Marina plan
because it satisfies the guiding

852
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:32,319
principles, including the following.
One, the plan addresses in the best

853
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:38,640
manner possible the physical conditions,
including winter, ice, and storm issues.

854
00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:43,200
Two, the marina elements are designed in
a manner that will enable the marina

855
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:48,240
itself to be financially feasible and
self-sufficient. Three, the design plan

856
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:53,359
brings the entire community, including
non-boers, into the waterfront spaces in

857
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:58,559
the best manner possible for the benefit
of the greater Shboan community. Some of

858
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:04,079
the design elements I like in particular
are one, the opportunity to phase marina

859
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:09,760
slip installation to grow the marina
over time to meet demand as it increases

860
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:15,920
and delay some front-end expenses for
docks until the marina fully rebounds.

861
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:20,880
to a right-sized, properly located
multi-purpose marina building uh to

862
00:58:18,559 --> 00:58:25,599
better address parks department needs,
marina staffing levels, and proximity to

863
00:58:23,119 --> 00:58:30,400
the fuel docks. Operationally less
costly but sufficiently attractive

864
00:58:27,839 --> 00:58:37,200
boater lounge and other boater amenities
to attract seasonal and transient boers.

865
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:42,319
Uh and uh park security uh first
responder and safety allocated space.

866
00:58:39,599 --> 00:58:48,640
Again, uh if you saw the numbers in
detail, the prior Marina admin building

867
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:54,559
is 11,000 ft². This one is 9,500. So,
we're right sizing it but creating

868
00:58:51,359 --> 00:58:59,440
multi-purpose use. Um outstanding
design, particularly of green space to

869
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:04,160
encourage the entire community to visit
the waterfront, including three smaller

870
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:10,720
waterfront gathering spaces along the
prominade with fire pits, swings, and

871
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:15,760
park facilities. Uh and four unique uh
popjet splash pad, attractively designed

872
00:59:13,119 --> 00:59:20,799
pathways, pergola seating areas, better
park style lighting, surfers winter

873
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:26,240
terrace with uh with fire pit, reduced
parking lot size, public access pier,

874
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:33,760
and courtesy dock that together better
join a familyfriendly community marina

875
00:59:30,079 --> 00:59:40,000
to a familyfriendly dand park. Back in
October of 2025, the Marina Parks and

876
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:45,119
Forestry Commission recommended hiring
Edgewater Resources, but expressed

877
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:49,599
concern on two issues. Uh, first was a
review of the current current marina

878
00:59:47,359 --> 00:59:54,880
admin building structure to determine
whether it was adequate and could be

879
00:59:52,079 --> 01:00:00,319
maintained and continue to be used. We
appreciate that additional review and

880
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:05,359
investigation was done. Although the
result was that the admin building can't

881
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:09,200
be realistically retained, we're glad
that that review was done just so that

882
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:14,400
we're assured that that's the right step
to take. The second element was that the

883
01:00:11,839 --> 01:00:20,079
Marina Parks and Forestry Commission uh
voted to recommend only a restaurant and

884
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:25,839
event space uh if it was privately
funded uh to obtain and address the

885
01:00:23,359 --> 01:00:29,760
construction cost of the building. Um,
with respect to the Dand Park Event

886
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:34,720
Building, I don't have enough
information on the cost of removing the

887
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:40,079
well-liked and regularly used Dand
Community Center and building the Dand

888
01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:45,359
Park event building, which seems to
necessitate moving forward to the next

889
01:00:42,559 --> 01:00:51,280
step uh in order to obtain construction
cost estimates. Um, I do very much like

890
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:55,839
the Dan Park event building, including
broad community access to event space

891
01:00:53,599 --> 01:01:00,720
and the small shop, small food stall
marketplace, similar in concept to a

892
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:05,920
scaledown Milwaukee public market,
Chelsea Market in New York City, Reading

893
01:01:03,119 --> 01:01:09,920
Terminal Market in Philly, uh, Pike
Place in Seattle, or Lincoln Eery in

894
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:14,960
Miami Beach, which are all very
successful community marketplaces. Um,

895
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:19,839
however, I'm concerned about whether
that building will be financially

896
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:24,960
self-sufficient uh on its own. I don't
believe that the Marina slip operations

897
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:30,559
can financially subsidize and support
the Dion Park event building. So, it's

898
01:01:27,119 --> 01:01:34,960
going to need to stand on its own. Um
therefore I believe it's going going to

899
01:01:32,319 --> 01:01:39,839
be critical to have detailed operational
plans and financial performs in place

900
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:44,640
including tenant leases and eventbased
market analysis before removing the

901
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:49,040
existing dand community center and
proceeding with the dand park event

902
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:54,000
building. Again though that's further
ahead. Uh right now we're at the stage

903
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:58,799
of the master plan and schematic design
approval which I can wholeheartedly

904
01:01:56,160 --> 01:02:04,240
recommend at this time while also
recommending that operational plans and

905
01:02:01,119 --> 01:02:07,839
financial performs and market analysis
uh be done on the Dian Park event

906
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:11,119
building itself. Thank you.
>> Thank you Peter.

907
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:14,440
» Deputy city clerk
>> Kurt Cobber.

908
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:20,720
» Mr. Cobber name, address, item you're
speaking on and then you'll have five

909
01:02:19,119 --> 01:02:25,359
minutes. All right, sounds good. Good
evening. My name is Kurt Cobber residing

910
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:30,160
at 534 Humbled Avenue. I'll be speaking
to item number 17 on the agenda,

911
01:02:28,319 --> 01:02:35,440
adopting the new waterfront marina
master plan and schematic design. Uh

912
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:39,680
Mayor Sorenson and common council along
with the city staff, I want to thank you

913
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:44,319
for the work you do for our community.
Uh the choice you do is significant and

914
01:02:42,559 --> 01:02:48,240
our city would not operate without you.
So I want to thank you on the front end

915
01:02:46,079 --> 01:02:52,640
for your contribution to our community.
I'm a fourth generation Shabboanite uh

916
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:56,799
lakeshore homeowner, a boat owner, and
someone who has been actively involved

917
01:02:54,240 --> 01:03:00,880
in shoreline issues from the Southshore
Revetman project to the broader

918
01:02:58,799 --> 01:03:04,799
lakefront and waterfront. I'm here
tonight to strongly support the

919
01:03:02,319 --> 01:03:09,839
Edgewater Resources Marina plan in its
entirety. I'm looking at what really

920
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:13,520
makes to be a successful marina.
Tonight, we will talk about the first

921
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:18,319
piece, which are slips, but there are
two other pieces, storage and service.

922
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:22,319
But slips come first, and that's what
we'll focus tonight on. We need safe,

923
01:03:20,559 --> 01:03:26,000
modern slips in good condition,
protected by the right breakwater

924
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:29,680
infrastructure designed around actual
conditions we experience in Lake

925
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:33,839
Michigan. We definitely saw that tonight
and the work that Edgewater did. I'm

926
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:37,280
encouraged by that work because that's
not always been the case when we've done

927
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:41,440
these developments in the past and we've
looked at extreme conditions in every

928
01:03:39,119 --> 01:03:46,079
direction and we clearly see that in the
plan. I'm also encouraged by the design

929
01:03:44,079 --> 01:03:50,960
and how it opens up the waterfront to
the broader community. This is not just

930
01:03:48,559 --> 01:03:53,920
a boater plan. This is a community plan
and that was very clear from the

931
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:58,640
beginning that the community was asking
for the waterfront to be a waterfront

932
01:03:56,319 --> 01:04:02,559
for everyone and as a boater I support
that. Uh yes, it improves slips and

933
01:04:00,799 --> 01:04:06,640
boating infrastructure but ultimately it
becomes a broader community asset and we

934
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:12,640
are so fortunate to have so many here in
Shboan. Um, the other thing I want to

935
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:16,160
consider is as we pl as you consider
passing this plan tonight, think of

936
01:04:14,319 --> 01:04:20,240
ahead to the future and what might be
required. As I mentioned, there are two

937
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:25,599
other elements that will make this
marina successful. It is storage and is

938
01:04:23,039 --> 01:04:29,039
also service. Uh, without those three
legs of the stool, no marina is

939
01:04:27,599 --> 01:04:32,880
successful. And that's what we've missed
for the last 30 years here in Shboen.

940
01:04:31,359 --> 01:04:36,720
I'll give you my own experience because
I think this helps dimensionalize why

941
01:04:34,559 --> 01:04:40,480
these other elements are important. I
recently moved my boat from out of the

942
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:44,559
state of Wisconsin to here in Shbboan
because I wanted to spend more time here

943
01:04:42,079 --> 01:04:49,920
with my family and use that asset on the
water. On an annual basis, I'll spend

944
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:55,599
$30,000 servicing this boat, of which
$3,000 will be spent here in Shbboen.

945
01:04:52,960 --> 01:05:01,920
The remaining $27,000 will be spent in
Manitwalk County on storage and service

946
01:04:58,319 --> 01:05:06,880
in the offse. Those are $27,000
I'd rather spend in Shuen County. If you

947
01:05:04,559 --> 01:05:10,960
take that math and extend it just to 200
slips and you cut the amount of service

948
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:14,880
that someone spends on an annual basis,
that's another $3 million in revenue

949
01:05:13,119 --> 01:05:18,240
that we are not getting in Shboen
County. And so again, that's not the

950
01:05:16,799 --> 01:05:22,400
issue tonight, but as you continue to
plan forward, think about what it takes

951
01:05:20,079 --> 01:05:25,680
to make a successful marina. It is the
slips that we're talking about tonight,

952
01:05:24,079 --> 01:05:30,240
but it's also the storage and the
service that comes with it. So tonight,

953
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:34,400
I encourage you to approve the plan, get
the slips and infrastructure right,

954
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:38,799
create the kind of onshore and offshore
waterfront this community deserves, but

955
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:42,480
let's keep going forward to explore what
storage and service look like in this

956
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:46,799
community. I think when we do all of
those things together, we'll not build

957
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:49,760
not only a better place for voters, but
we'll build a better place for our

958
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:52,000
community that's more economically
viable in the long term. Thanks for your

959
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:55,359
time.
>> Thank you, Mr. Cobber.

960
01:05:53,920 --> 01:06:00,960
All right, that concludes our public
forum for this evening. Uh just a few

961
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:07,760
notes and announcements on my end. Um
the city council requested um uh more

962
01:06:04,319 --> 01:06:13,200
information regarding uh data centers um
and and the city just announced earlier

963
01:06:09,839 --> 01:06:18,000
today uh about uh several speaking
series that we'll be having coming up um

964
01:06:16,079 --> 01:06:22,559
regarding variety of different topics
regarding uh uh um data centers. want to

965
01:06:21,119 --> 01:06:27,200
reiterate that we do not have a data
center planned or proposed. We also have

966
01:06:24,319 --> 01:06:33,760
a current moratorum uh in place as well.
We'll have four sessions on September

967
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:37,520
9th, 16th, 23rd, and 30th, all at 6 p.m.
at Uptown Social. More information

968
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:41,440
regarding the speaking series can be
found on the city's communication

969
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:47,200
platforms and comm and as well as the
city's website as well. Also, the other

970
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:51,599
week, uh we had a successful, uh block
downtown block party. I want to thank uh

971
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:55,839
the Department of Public Works, city
staff, our friends at the Shabboan JC's,

972
01:06:54,079 --> 01:07:00,480
all the sponsors, our friends at Three
Sheep's Brewing, uh as well as all the

973
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:04,480
community car owners that stepped up uh
and brought their cars downtown to

974
01:07:02,319 --> 01:07:08,319
Shbboan and had a wonderful event uh
considering the circumstances of us

975
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:11,520
having to pivot away from a primary boat
focused event uh and making sure we

976
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:14,559
still have fun in the community. So, I
want to just do some shout outs and

977
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:18,319
thanks for those that made that
successful. So, those conclude my

978
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:22,640
announcements for this evening. Uh we
will move on to our consent agenda items

979
01:07:21,119 --> 01:07:27,440
14
through 24. Alder Boris,

980
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:29,760
» I move to accept and file all reports
and adopt all resolutions.

981
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:33,039
» Second.
>> Moved and seconded. Any discussion on

982
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:37,119
any of the items on the consent agenda?
Alder Kelly. [snorts]

983
01:07:34,559 --> 01:07:42,319
» Um just to address some of the items
from the public forum. Um, with the

984
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:47,920
Marina plan moving forward, uh, do we
have public input sessions planned

985
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:50,640
already, um, to address the the plan as
it develops?

986
01:07:49,599 --> 01:07:55,839
» You want to take that,
>> city administrator?

987
01:07:52,880 --> 01:08:02,006
» Yes. As as we work through design, um,
so I think we had 25 individuals show up

988
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:05,920
uh to the last public public
[clears throat] input session, so it was

989
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:13,359
pretty limited. Um we did hold a number
of uh u user group focus groups as well

990
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:17,440
to get direct in impact or input. So I
believe the plan would be to do

991
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:21,759
something very similar as this plan
moves into the next stage. Correct me if

992
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:25,679
I'm wrong Greg. I believe that was in
the contract that we would so there will

993
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:30,960
be an opportunity for more public
feedback. Um you know it's it's always

994
01:08:29,199 --> 01:08:34,480
hit or miss or people are available. I
mean, you know, we got to try

995
01:08:32,480 --> 01:08:39,279
coordinating all the groups together.
So, um, we're not looking at a series of

996
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:43,359
these. We're looking at because this is
a multi-layered process. So, um, we're

997
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:47,199
not going to hold a whole series like we
did when we did the master plan. So,

998
01:08:45,440 --> 01:08:52,719
this is more each iteration, we'll get
feedback. Um, so, you know, if if folks

999
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:56,560
can't make it to it, but want to provide
feedback, they're more than welcome to

1000
01:08:54,640 --> 01:09:00,400
uh contact my office and we can get that
feedback over to Edgewater as well. So,

1001
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:03,040
» thank you.
>> Thank you.

1002
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:09,199
» Any other discussion on any of the
consent agenda items?

1003
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:12,159
All right. Seeing no more, we'll do a
voice vote on this. All those in favor

1004
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:14,000
of approving the items on the consent
agenda, state I.

1005
01:09:13,440 --> 01:09:20,359
» I.
>> Any opposed? Hearing none, those items

1006
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:20,359
are approved.

1007
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:29,040
Next resolutions. Item 25, resolution
number 832627

1008
01:09:26,480 --> 01:09:36,159
by alders Boris and Close authorizing
the issuance and sale up to 893,200

1009
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:41,120
taxable private LSL replacement loan
program revenue bonds series 2026A and

1010
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:45,520
providing other details and covenants
with respect there too and approval of

1011
01:09:43,839 --> 01:09:48,480
related financial assistance agreement.
Alder Boris,

1012
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:53,920
» I ask to suspend the rules. I move to
adopt the resolution. Any objections to

1013
01:09:51,279 --> 01:09:56,880
adopt or to suspending?
Hearing none, can you make the motion

1014
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:59,280
again?
>> I move to adopt resolution.

1015
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:02,159
» Thank you.
>> Second.

1016
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:04,640
» Moved and seconded. Uh, anyone want to
speak on why we're suspending?

1017
01:10:03,679 --> 01:10:09,280
» There you go.
>> Okay. I I I got the cues. Yeah. City

1018
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:11,360
administrator,
>> I'm going to Yeah, I probably [laughter]

1019
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:18,560
will.
>> Thank you, Alder Hidman. All three of

1020
01:10:13,679 --> 01:10:24,320
these items, uh, 25, 26, 27, um, all
have to do with the clean water fund.

1021
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:29,360
So, this is this is a request from the,
uh, Wisconsin Department of Natural

1022
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:33,760
Resources through the Shboan Water
Utility. Um, you'll recall we've done

1023
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:40,239
this a number of times over the past
couple years in trying to secure and

1024
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:45,840
procure money for uh citizens to replace
u depending on what program they fall

1025
01:10:43,199 --> 01:10:53,440
into and where they live in the city. Um
this these loans provide a subsidy um

1026
01:10:49,920 --> 01:11:00,560
anywhere from 100% to I think as low as
possibly 50% um some may even go to 25%

1027
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:04,159
but um depending where they live uh the
census track that they're in they

1028
01:11:02,159 --> 01:11:09,920
qualify under various federal programs.
This uh all three of these items here

1029
01:11:06,719 --> 01:11:15,120
are essentially um our contribution to
approving this and then it goes to um

1030
01:11:13,199 --> 01:11:20,239
the water utility. the water utility
uses that to fund. Um, and depending on

1031
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:25,280
which program they're in, the payback is
either an agreement between the water

1032
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:29,600
utility, the city, um, to to pay it back
if there's a a cost. If it's not 100%

1033
01:11:27,679 --> 01:11:35,280
and if it's 100%, then there's just no
cost to the citizen at all.

1034
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:40,560
All right, there's been a motion and
second as well as an explanation. Any

1035
01:11:37,199 --> 01:11:44,400
further discussion on this item
hearing? None. All those in favor of

1036
01:11:42,239 --> 01:11:46,239
approving item 25 state I
>> I

1037
01:11:45,679 --> 01:11:51,440
» I.
>> Any objections? Hearing none. That is

1038
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:55,840
approved. Next item 26, resolution
number 842627

1039
01:11:53,840 --> 01:12:04,159
by alders Boris and Close authorizing
the issuance and sale up to 247,500

1040
01:12:00,239 --> 01:12:08,719
taxable private LSL replacement loan
program revenue bond series 2026B and

1041
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:12,080
providing for other details and
covenants with respect there too and

1042
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:15,040
approval of related financial assistance
agreement. Alder Boris,

1043
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:18,800
» I ask to suspend the rules.
>> Any objection to suspension?

1044
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:21,040
Hearing none, please proceed with your
motion.

1045
01:12:19,199 --> 01:12:23,520
» I move you adopt the resolution.
>> Second.

1046
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:28,400
» Moved and seconded. Are there further
discussion on this matter?

1047
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:31,520
Hearing none. All those in favor of
approval of this item state. I

1048
01:12:30,159 --> 01:12:38,480
» I.
>> Any objection? That is approved.

1049
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:42,080
Item 27, resolution number 852627 by
alers Boris and Close, authorizing the

1050
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:45,199
appropriate city officials to execute
the Department of Natural Resource

1051
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:50,560
Principal forgiveness financial
assistance agreements regarding DNR

1052
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:53,280
project number 4901-18.
Alder Boris,

1053
01:12:51,679 --> 01:12:56,960
» I ask to suspend the rules.
>> Any objections?

1054
01:12:55,440 --> 01:13:00,320
Hearing none, please proceed with your
motion.

1055
01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:06,239
» I move to adopt the resolution. Second.
>> Moved and second. Um, under discussion

1056
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:09,760
on this matter
hearing none. All those in favor of

1057
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:11,280
approval of that item state I.
>> I.

1058
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:16,400
» I.
>> Any objections?

1059
01:13:13,199 --> 01:13:23,120
Hearing none. That is approved.
Next item 28, resolution number 762627

1060
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:26,880
by elders Boris and Heidman approving
design development for the public safety

1061
01:13:25,440 --> 01:13:30,239
complex and authorizing the appropriate
city officials to proceed with the

1062
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:32,880
preparation of construction documents in
cooperation with window company. Alder

1063
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:36,960
Boris
>> I move to adopt the resolution

1064
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:40,120
» moved and seconded under discussion on
this matter.

1065
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:45,920
» Seeing none all those in favor of
approval of this matter please state I.

1066
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:52,719
I
>> any objections?

1067
01:13:48,480 --> 01:13:57,760
That matter is approved. Items 29 and 30
will be referred to the transit

1068
01:13:54,159 --> 01:14:02,000
commission. Next, we have a contemplated
close session. Alder Boris,

1069
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:06,640
» I move to convene in close session under
the exemption contained in Wisconsin

1070
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:10,719
statute S19851G
for the purpose of discussion related to

1071
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:17,000
a possible investment of public funds to
purchase Town of Wilson parcel numbers

1072
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:17,000
5930454780

1073
01:14:18,159 --> 01:14:21,159
59304-54810

1074
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,640
59304

1075
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:31,640
54815 5 and 5930454782.

1076
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:38,000
» Second.
>> Moved and seconded. This is a roll call

1077
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:40,480
vote. Will the deputy clerk please call
the role?

1078
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:42,400
» Alder person Boris.
>> I.

1079
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:44,320
» Alder person Bzer.
>> Hi.

1080
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:46,080
» Alder person Close.
>> Hi.

1081
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:48,000
» Alder person Decker.
>> Hi.

1082
01:14:46,719 --> 01:14:49,920
» Alder person Graine.
>> Hi.

1083
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:52,000
» Alder person heman.
>> Hi.

1084
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:53,920
» Alder person Kelly.
>> Hi.

1085
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:56,320
» Alder person Mensor.
>> Hi.

1086
01:14:54,480 --> 01:15:00,800
» Alder person Mitchell.
>> Hi. Alder personela

1087
01:14:59,679 --> 01:15:05,040
» there are 10 eyes I
>> all right that is approved we will

1088
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:10,600
adjourn open session and we'll convene
in close session and we will come back

1089
01:15:07,199 --> 01:15:10,600
in open session

1090
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:20,960
» all right we will reconvene in open
session Boris

1091
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:24,880
» I move to reconvene in open session for
possible action relating to the matters

1092
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:30,000
discussed in close session
>> second moved and seconded Will the

1093
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:31,440
deputy city clerk call the role?
>> Alder Boris.

1094
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:33,040
» I.
>> Alder Bzer.

1095
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,560
» Hi.
>> Alder Close.

1096
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,000
» Hi.
>> Alder Decker.

1097
01:15:35,440 --> 01:15:37,520
» Hi.
>> Alder Gravine.

1098
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,040
» Hi.
>> Alder Haidman.

1099
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:40,560
» Hi.
>> Alder Kelly.

1100
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,159
» Hi.
>> Alder Mensor.

1101
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,960
» Hi.
>> Alder Mitchell.

1102
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,800
» Hi.
>> Alder Pella.

1103
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:50,080
» Hi.
>> There are 10 eyes.

1104
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:55,440
» All right. We're back in open session.
Next is resolution item 33. Resolution

1105
01:15:53,600 --> 01:16:01,199
number 862627
by Elders Mitchell Imprella authorizing

1106
01:15:57,679 --> 01:16:08,280
the purchase of approximately 55.361
acres of land in Town Wilson identified

1107
01:16:04,239 --> 01:16:08,280
as parcel numbers 5930454780

1108
01:16:09,679 --> 01:16:12,679
593454810

1109
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:16,280
5930454815

1110
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:20,520
and 5930454782

1111
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:28,880
from Mark Pierce Kath Catherine Pierce,
Rachel Olgan, Matthew Pierce,

1112
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:33,600
Mitchell Pierce, Alder Bors.
>> I ask to suspend the rules.

1113
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:35,840
» Any objection to suspension?
>> Hearing none, please proceed with your

1114
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:38,320
motion.
>> I move to adopt the resolution.

1115
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:43,679
» Second.
>> Thank you. Moved and seconded. Uh, under

1116
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:48,239
discussion.
All right. Hearing none. We'll call a

1117
01:16:46,480 --> 01:16:49,920
roll call on this one.
>> Alder person Boris.

1118
01:16:49,440 --> 01:16:53,440
» I.
>> Elder person Ber.

1119
01:16:51,440 --> 01:16:55,360
» Hi. Elder person Close.
>> Hi.

1120
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:57,360
» Alder person Decker.
>> Hi.

1121
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:59,199
» Alder person Graine.
>> Hi.

1122
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:01,120
» Alder person Haidaman.
>> Hi.

1123
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:03,280
» Alder person Kelly.
>> Hi.

1124
01:17:01,679 --> 01:17:06,000
» Alder person Mensor.
>> Hi.

1125
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:08,159
» Alder person Mitchell.
>> Hi.

1126
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:09,760
» Alder person Pela.
>> Hi.

1127
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:13,120
» There are 10 eyes.
>> All right. That item is approved

1128
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:16,239
unanimously. We've exhausted our agenda
for this evening. Alder Boris. What is

1129
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:18,080
your uh motion?
>> I move to adjourn.

1130
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:20,159
» Second.
>> All those in favor of adjourning state.

1131
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:25,960
I.
>> I. We're at 7:55. Good night, everybody.

1132
01:17:40,378 --> 01:17:42,398
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